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I want to talk to you about some pretty serious stuff here about the economy, what is happening with China, and what direction we're headed in.

Gold is up to 4,100, just over 4,100 today.

It was on its way to 42 yesterday.

It's kind of come down just a little bit.

Silver, I mean, it was, you know, it's traditionally around 12 bucks an ounce.

It's over $50.

Something is happening with the economy, and I want to point out something very disturbing.

We'll explain that coming up in just a second.

First, let me tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

Listen, I saw the same videos you saw yesterday, and it was amazing watching the families return home, families embracing the possibility of peace flickering on the horizon.

After so many years, decades, centuries of heartbreak and war, we're seeing glimpses of something we prayed for, and that is a restoration of peace.

But even now, there are families in Israel who have lost everything.

There are elderly survivors who can't afford heat or food.

There are children who wake up to sirens and still need hope to hold on to.

The Arab world is now finally going to be able to go in and help the Gazans, and we can help the Israelis.

They've lost everything.

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They have to rebuild.

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faith requires action take your part in ifcj's mission find out how and what their mission is at ifcj.org that's ifcj.org all right told you about gold here at record highs um and it is telling us something

usually it would tell us that the dollar is in real real trouble i think

and i i am guessing at this now um but i think what this is telling us is that the whole world the whole system is in trouble and let let me give you an example.

I'm going to talk to you about something to try to make sense of it here, but I don't have a good answer because we're not having these conversations.

I have told you for almost 20 years when it comes to AI, we must have these conversations now because the world is going to change overnight.

And we are at that point.

We are at the point of singularity where there is no turning back.

And we haven't had these conversations.

Do you want to win the AI war?

I will tell you, we cannot lose it.

But to win it, we may have to sacrifice so much on the altar of liberty that I don't want to fight it.

So what do we do?

Let me explain.

Something has shifted in the world, and most people cannot feel it yet.

But if you're paying attention, you understand there is something on the horizon.

One day soon, we're going to wake up and we're going to realize, uh-oh, I think we crossed a line here.

Quietly, silently, while no one was paying attention, everything changed.

Over the past few days, while the world has been paying attention to what is going on in Israel and the Middle East, there's a couple of other really important headlines that have

caught my attention.

And at first, they all seemed unrelated, just random stories from around the world.

But when you look closer, and this is what I think I do best,

I take things that are seemingly unrelated and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, I think they all fit into this category.

So let me give you some threads here.

First thread is China.

Beijing just tightened its grip on rare earth elements.

These are the minerals that make absolutely everything possible.

Your smartphone, your electric car, your missile defense system, your refrigerator.

Everything depends on these rare earth minerals.

China, because of our inaction and stupid policies over the last couple of decades, control now 80% of the world's supply chain.

That cannot stand.

Now what they're doing is they're choking it off.

They are now closing it up, and they are threatening the West.

No more

rare earth minerals.

If that happens, we cannot defend ourselves.

Do we have rare earth minerals?

Yeah, we have lots of them, but we're not mining them.

It will take a decade to start mining them up in Alaska, where they mainly are.

That's why Donald Trump was saying we need Greenland.

That's what he was saying, rare earth minerals, because they're already mining them there and we cannot lose them.

Now, they're choking it off and rare earth stocks exploded overnight.

Because whoever controls those minerals controls the future.

Now here's the second thread, the Pentagon.

Out of nowhere, they made a billion-dollar emergency order for those same rare earth minerals.

That's not normal.

That's not paperwork.

That is the sound of a military quietly preparing for something, a shortage, possibly in a storm.

Like I said, we are because of what Biden did in Ukraine, we are

are wholly unprepared for any kind of military action.

We don't have the materials.

And at the same time, everything is changing to high-tech.

We don't have the rare earth minerals and the chips now to make our guided missile systems.

The third thread, JPMorgan Chase, one of the most powerful institutions on the planet, just announced this week a $1.5 trillion investment plan in what they called security and resilience.

That's not going to to mom-and-pop shops.

That's not going to community loans.

That money is being funneled straight into AI, defense manufacturing, and critical milk minerals.

It's as if the Pentagon and Wall Street just linked arms and decided to build a fortress economy together.

Then came the fourth thread.

Nobody paid attention to this one.

In Europe, the Dutch government just seized control of the Chinese-owned chip maker on their own soil.

They invoked emergency powers and nationalized the company to stop the Chinese influence over the semiconductor industry.

That's not good.

Four stories, four continents, four quiet tremors in the ground.

When you weave them all together, that's when you begin to understand what all of this means.

So let me try to do that.

The old world, as we know it, is dying.

The world of free markets, the world of open trade, individual enterprise, the world that lifted billions out of poverty is being replaced now, slowly but surely by something new.

And this one is being done in the name of security.

And I don't have an answer for this.

This is why we must pay attention and talk about it now.

Corporations now are aligning with state power.

Before we had the tech industry aligning itself with the government to control speech.

This is the government aligning themselves with tech, rare earth, minerals, etc., etc., to be able to win the AI war.

This, this, all of this is a single unspoken motive, and that is the race to dominate artificial intelligence.

This is the new arms race.

This is the new Manhattan Project, the new nuclear weapon, except this is a million times more enslaving than nuclear weapons could ever hope to be.

Whoever masters this

first,

whoever gets to AI and AGI first,

will control the economies, the information, even your thought itself.

Every rare earth mineral, every chip, every line of code, they're all ingredients in that same contest.

And the nations are moving fast.

They're hoarding materials now.

We're beginning to seize companies.

They're building walled-off supply chains.

This is happening on their side and our side.

And the free market in this particular place is no longer free.

It's being drafted into a digital Cold War.

Now,

that sounds bad, but now let me tell you the danger that nobody seems to get.

When nations go to war, even an economic war, freedom always becomes a casualty.

We tell ourselves we're fighting for liberty, and we are, because we don't want to live in a society like China, right?

I don't.

But when survival's on the line, governments tighten control for our own good.

They regulate, they ration, they censor.

And one day you look up and you realize

the line between democracy and technocracy is gone.

If the West wants to win this AI war, and we must,

then we have to have a conversation.

Why are we even fighting this war?

Because if in winning it we become China, why not let China just win?

If we adopt the same top-down control, the same surveillance, the same merger of government and corporate power, then what did we actually win?

Didn't we just trade one master for another?

The old global system, free enterprise, open markets, individual liberty, it is being rewritten in real time.

And the threads are now all coming together and

they're weaving a new tapestry.

I don't know what the tapestry looks like.

I can guess at what that tapestry looks like and I don't like it.

Will it be woven from freedom or will it be woven from fear?

If we lose sight of who we are, look, our global leadership, it's already lost sight for who we are.

They don't care.

They don't care.

None of them care.

They'll get to this global dominance over the individual one way or another in their book.

You must care.

You must stand for freedom.

You must be at the head of having this conversation.

Because

if we lose sight of who we are,

this tapestry is going to be strong, efficient, and unbreakable.

But it will not be free.

And someday, historians are going to look back at this moment and they're going to, what happened?

They're going to see these quiet headlines, these invisible decisions that are being made right now, and they'll realize this is when the new world began.

They will be able to look at this point and say, this was it.

Why didn't people see it?

The answer to that is obvious.

We're overwhelmed with everything that we have to do, everything we're looking at.

This has been a very well-planned takeover of freedom.

You have to ask yourself,

when the weaving is done whose pattern will be will we be living in

because that's what is coming there's a story in the show prep today that I really want you to read I'm going to talk to you about it here in a second Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified

you don't have any idea how far China is ahead of us

and you can say well I don't want to be China

Well, you will be China, and China will be controlling you

if we don't push back.

But how do we push back without becoming China?

Listen to this next story.

You can find it

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Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified.

I'm going to explain it to you coming up in just a second.

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I'm actually at the Rush Limbaugh Studios of the Heritage Foundation.

I can't thank them enough for the short notice.

I was invited to the White House over the weekend to join the President in honoring Charlie Kirk on his 32nd birthday today

by receiving the Freedom Medal.

And I'll be there along with a lot of other people.

And I really can't wait to experience that and hope to have some time with the President later today to talk about some other things because there's a lot of things going on.

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Okay, so let me give you this story.

Western executives visit China who are coming back terrified.

Quote, it's the most humbling thing I've ever seen, said Ford's chief executive about his recent trip to China.

After visiting a string of factories, Jim Farley was left astonished by technical

innovations being packed into Chinese cars from self-driving software to facial recognition.

Their cost and quality of their vehicles is far superior to that on which I see in the West.

We are in a global competition with China, and it's not just EVs.

If we lose this, listen carefully, there is no future at Ford.

If we lose this, there is no future at Ford.

Another executive, this one from the EU, says, I can take you to factories in China now where you'll basically be alongside a big conveyor belt and the machines come out on the floor and begin to assemble parts.

You're walking alongside this conveyor and after about 800 meters, a truck drives out.

And there are no people involved.

Other executives describe a vast dark factory where robots do so much of the work alone that there's no need to even turn on lights for humans.

We visited a dark factory producing some astronomical numbers of cell phones.

The process is so heavily automated that there were no workers on the manufacturing side, just a small number who were there to ensure the plant was working.

You get this sense of change where China's competitiveness has gone from being about government subsidies and low wages to a tremendous number of highly skilled, educated engineers who are innovating like mad.

Between 2014 and 2024, the number of industrial

robots deployed in the country rocketed from 189,000 to more than 2 million.

It is

just give you, just let me give you this.

Last year, China added 295,000 robots, Germany added 27,000, the U.S.

34,000, the UK 2,500.

The UK is over.

I mean it's just absolutely over.

It boasts 567 robots for every 10,000 manufacturing workers, 449 in Germany for every 10,000, and 307 for the US.

So this is not,

this is,

I'm not preaching this because this is

good for the country.

It's bad for workers.

It's bad for workers.

But China is doing it for

a couple of things.

First of all, their policy is known, I can't pronounce it in Chinese, but it translates to replacing humans with machines.

In China, they don't need to have a Patriot Act, a really super great thing for auto workers.

Now, replacing humans with machines is the name of their policy.

Okay.

And it is, it's happening everywhere.

Everywhere.

They can develop and execute models in probably half the time that most European car makers can make.

And they're doing it partially because they see the decline in their birth rates.

And they know we're not going to have the workers to be able to do this.

But what's disturbing is all of these robotics are needing power.

They also need AI.

So they are building these gigantic server farms, which we are still breaking ground on.

They're building them.

They're building new power plants, one power plant,

coal-fire power plant every week.

And I think 40, can you look this up, Stu?

I think it's 40 nuclear power plants a year.

We're not building anything.

We're not building anything.

We're breaking ground on it.

Trump has already said he's cutting all of the regulations, but but we're still far, far behind.

And we are getting close to the point where they win, we lose.

Again, I don't know what to do about it,

except have a conversation about it.

Because I've read the conversations from the left.

I've read the conversations from the World Economic Forum.

And they don't care.

They will take you and literally put you in a

drugged state and put you online and you're just going to play video games your whole life that that is honestly their plan for a large number of people in the west that will just be

no longer usable undesirables well i don't like those labels i didn't like them when the nazis said them i certainly don't like them when the world economic forum says them this is Glenn Beck.

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From the Heritage Foundation in the Rush Limbaugh studios.

By the way, love the tip of the hat to Rush Limbaugh.

Kevin Roberts is here.

He's the president of the Heritage Foundation, one of the bravest guys I know, one of the smartest guys I know, and doing a lot of great stuff.

The president kind of distanced himself from Project 2025, which is

a heritage, if I'm not mistaken.

But recently, he's come out because Russ Vogt is really kind of the architect of a lot of 2025 stuff, right?

And the president has seemed to be a little reluctant to get down to it and just slash Russ.

I loved Mike Leesing.

He said Russ has been waiting for this since puberty.

We have the shutdown.

The president looks like he might unleash Rush.

That's a rust.

That's really good news because I've been waiting for this.

Are we going to do it?

I think we're going to do it.

And the reason we're going to do it is in every other policy area, Glenn, and it's great to be with you, by the way.

Welcome to Heritage.

Yeah, thank you.

In every other policy area, the president has been so courageous.

I mean, think about what's in the news today with Israel.

Think about creating peace all around the world.

And for the first time, and as long as I can remember, maybe since I was going through puberty, we're actually winning the messaging on a shutdown.

Crazy.

It is.

But you know, the conservative, not just the conservative base, but the American people well.

They want real substantive reform.

That's what they voted for last November.

And we're not going to get that unless Russ has the opportunity to work through these reductions in force of back office personnel to actually work through a responsible reduction in the size and scope and expense of government.

That's a kind of long-winded way, Glenn, of saying, I've got great faith that President Trump has already told Russ, go for it.

Let's get this done.

So

when?

I'm sorry.

I'm just like a kid in a candy shop.

I'll be clear.

When?

I don't know when, because I'm sitting here on the outside very happily, but I can tell you, you referenced our transition project since 1980 when Heritage started the first of these, which we called Mandate for Leadership.

We've been talking about a reduction in government.

This is the first time we have a real opportunity for this to actually happen.

So, what I can tell our friend Russ and our friend President Trump and Vice President Advance, something they know, which is that tens of millions of Americans voted for them for precisely this to happen, full speed ahead, keep doing the wonderful messaging that every single member of the cabinet does.

What should they be cutting right now?

Well, look, when they took office several months ago, there were nearly two and a half million federal employees.

We did an analysis over the years at Heritage, which suggested that you could have a third as few of the federal employees.

You could have fewer than 2 million employees.

That's a way of saying that when the left says, oh, you're cutting the scientists and all the essential people, not at all.

You're cutting people who are doing

layers and layers and layers.

And no private business could you have that kind of excess.

It's nothing against those human persons who are occupying those jobs, right?

We care for them, they're fellow Americans.

But some of them, let's remember, are ideological hacks who have been protected by an overwrought civil service protection that needs to be reformed as well.

At Heritage, we're saying, let's rip the band-aid off and let's do this once and for all.

So what happens?

Russ does this.

What kind of lawsuits follow?

What, I mean,

can this be permanent?

Aaron Powell, Jr.: Some of it can be permanent.

And again, speculating, with some information about how one might go about this reform theoretically, there are probably hundreds of thousands of jobs in the federal government that could be cut permanently without any lawsuit that actually has substance behind it.

We're not talking about just unilaterally eliminating XYZ agency.

We're talking about going agency by agency at budget lines and eliminating duplicative jobs, the very kinds of things that every private business, especially a small business, has to do.

This is common sense reform.

But ultimately, to kind of come back to your opening question, Glenn, it needs to happen now.

You've got in Speaker Johnson a legislative leader who is outstanding on the substance and the messaging of this.

He's actually popular with the American people.

Crazy.

Press the advantage.

Now is the time.

And I can tell you, going back to your comment about our transition project, Heritage led 110 other conservative groups in this transition project.

The conservative base is there.

The American people are there.

We want to see this happen.

I will tell you: I've been saying for the last couple of weeks that if the president would just figure out a way to make sure airplanes don't fall out of the sky,

you know, that the military is paid for, that the checks to the elderly and the hungry are making it home, just take care of the essentials that the Constitution says we're supposed to.

Nobody would really see the bad impact.

And you let this go for eight weeks as long as the airports are running fine, as long as everything is running on time that the average person,

they're going to get to a point where they're going to go, why do we have all these people?

Non-essential really does mean non-essential.

No, it's true.

I was in Dallas airport Sunday, coming back from watching my Longhorns beat the Sooners, which is awesome.

And an acquaintance of mine who's reasonably conservative said, you know, isn't this shutdown awful?

And this turned into a kind of a public conversation at this gate at the DFW airport, where I said, well, it's awesome.

It's awesome because we're not cutting the scientists, which was her accusation.

We're not cutting essential employees.

There are TSA agents here.

There are air traffic control people in the tower.

There are no delays at the airport.

We're paying the troops.

These are all matters of justice.

How about we cut the fat?

And it's just common sense to the average American, Glenn, that there is a lot of fat in in a budget that has created a $37 trillion national debt.

If we have any hope of turning the corner economically, financially, fiscally in this country, it starts with this shutdown.

I just did a monologue on the price of gold.

Little terrifying.

What is that telling us?

A lot terrifying.

Price of silver, a little terrifying.

And then

the grab and control of China of the rare earth minerals.

And I don't know how to solve this one because

right now we're doing some things that we have to do to be able to win this AI race because if we don't, China will win and we'll all be China.

But

if we fight it in the wrong way, we'll just be an American version of China.

You know, I don't like these public-private partnerships, et cetera, et cetera.

Where do you stand on that?

What are your thoughts on this?

Generally speaking, I and all of us at Heritage do not like the public-private partnerships.

And at the very least, giving the administration benefit of the doubt, we would like more details about how they're going to work.

But you make a really good point that it's not a choice between either allowing China to totally co-opt us, which is the path we were on under Biden, or basically to mimic China and become a weaker version of China.

We need to be America.

We need to have full-throated endorsement of free enterprise and the free market here, with one exception.

Anything that is in the realm of national security, even my most strident libertarian friends say, yes, of course, Kevin, right now, the Chinese Communist Party is the greatest adversary we've ever faced.

Let's focus on that.

So that's a way of saying, I think the solution to this, which is pretty elegant and largely broadly supported on the political right, is focus on national security.

Let's make sure that we are ending the ridiculous over-permitting and regulation of our own rare earth minerals.

Let's also make sure, if I may make this point, that Lockheed Martin and Raytheon don't have what is, in essence, a duopoly on military.

We want them to be involved.

Good men and women, they're good innovation, but there's even better innovation coming from smaller businesses.

Big time.

That is what really needs to be honored.

And I think if we do that, within a couple of years, Glenn, it's going to be obvious to Xi Jinping and his cronies that the United States is back on a level footing with them.

So, how do we solve the energy problem?

President Trump said, I'm going to eliminate all these problems.

We can build nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera.

And I want that to happen.

And I think the government does need to be involved, at least in just deregulation of everything, while keeping enough regulations to keep us safe.

But we need massive build out, massive build-out.

Under FDR, it was the government that built all the dams and everything else.

How do you feel about that?

How do you feel about how this is rolling out?

And are we making progress on this?

Because I don't see massive power plants being built.

And without it, we're going to have rolling blackouts and and brownouts all across the country.

Aaron Powell,

I agree with your diagnosis fully, and I have been worried about that over the years.

I'm more optimistic now because I've had several meetings around the country with people who are investing in micro-nuclear plants.

And if the government does two things, number one, get out of the way, which specifically means stop the over-regulation, the over-permitting of any kind of nuclear, including these small areas.

Which are completely different than the old ones.

And the old ones were the safest energy we've ever made in the history of man.

Yeah, that's right.

But these are even better.

And then, secondly, let private business do what private business does.

That private capital is going to flow into those places.

I mean, think about places in southwestern Pennsylvania, which of course should have more coal plants.

I know.

But micronuclear is at least the best short-term strategy, especially as we think about all of the energy usage of these data centers and of AI.

And so I'm really keen on that at first.

But we need another 18 to 36 months of this in order order for us to have any hope that in four or five years we aren't going to have rolling blackouts.

It's an amazing time we live in, isn't it?

Look, my kids ask me, you know, they're teenagers, early 20s, and they're optimistic because of their faith, you know, their supernatural evil.

But even more than that, or in addition to that, I should say, they are still very optimistic about America.

And do you know why?

Because they tell me, and they're all Trump fans, all Vance fans.

They said, Dad, these men and the men and women who are in the cabinet, we know, fight for us and fight for America.

And even when they might get something wrong or maybe half wrong, it's so rare.

And

they tell me they're just so optimistic about the future.

When I hear them say that, and my wife and I don't coach them to say that, I can't help but think that these very challenging times, we think about the assassination of our mutual friend Charlie Kirk, we think about all the nonsense that goes on.

God has put us here.

at this time

and in this place.

What an honor.

And we can both fight and be zealous and firm as you are every day while also being cheerful and attracting people into this movement because it's a movement about the future of America, the future of truth.

And we get to do it.

It's totally awesome.

And there's a change.

I mean, since the Charlie Kirk assassination, there is a massive change of hope that I think comes from...

the spiritual movement that has been going on.

I just purchased a book, A Bible,

one of the first Bibles to be printed in America.

We couldn't print a Bible under the king, you know, for 200 years.

We win the war, we go to Congress, and we start printing Bibles.

First one is the Aiken Bible, and that was for use in schools, and it's the only Bible that is endorsed by Congress.

It says it on the front page, an endorsement of Congress.

The Bible we just bought was the one that was sponsored by George Washington.

And so at the top, because they were so expensive to print, they would go to rich people and say, hey, can you sponsor the printing of this Bible?

They would would put a lot of money in it so others could buy it.

So all of the sponsors, George Washington, the vice president, and his entire cabinet, the testimony of Christ, we got that and we thought,

we're still doing our investigation, but we are really pretty sure that that is the last time a president, vice president, and cabinet has testified to the truth of the gospel

from that time until Charlie Kirk's funeral.

You know, as you were telling me the story about the Bible, which I just learned as you were telling me this, my historian head was going through quickly, although I definitely was listening gladly.

I promise you, my friend.

You did multitask.

A little bit.

Yeah, me too.

I was thinking, is there another opportunity?

Has there been another event like that?

No, not until

when all of the cabinets, I mean, almost all of the cabinet, the vice president, the president, all stood up and testified of Christ.

It was incredible.

And people will say, oh, that's fascism.

No, no.

Look, the last time it was happening is when we first had liberty under George Washington.

Isn't that crazy?

It is.

I remember when I was leading this College of Faith and we rejected student loans and grants because we wanted to remain independent.

We had people who didn't share that faith.

This is a Catholic college who emailed me.

In fact, there was kind of an atheist guy from New York who emailed me and said, I don't agree with your faith, but I know that if that gets violated, all of my rights get violated too.

And it stuck with me as a common sense endorsement of what Americans in our founding and since have known.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for everything.

Thanks for being with me, man.

Appreciate it.

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We have

the current Lieutenant Governor Winsom Earl Sears on with us here in just a second.

We're going to talk about her campaign.

She's what?

Five points behind?

I can't pretend.

Yeah, Spanberger.

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Could the state of Virginia flip blue

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The answer is yes.

Now, it is close.

I really honestly don't know why, Virginia, but I mean, you were the one that had to be

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Would it take him pulling the trigger?

Is that what would do it?

And then you would say he needs to get out of the race, Abigail?

You have nothing to say?

Abigail.

What if he said it about your two children, your three children?

Is that when you would say he should get out of the race, Abigail?

You're running to be governor, Miss Earl Sears.

I mean, we're talking about murder.

We're talking about someone's life being taken from them.

Have you nothing to say about that?

Are you not going to address it?

Really, you can't go any further.

You're a governor.

You're supposed to stand up for all the people.

Are you saying political murder is all right?

Have some political courage.

What you have done is you are taking political calculations about your future as governor.

Well, as governor, you have to make hard choices, and that means telling Jay Jones to leave the race.

It is one of the most powerful moments I've ever seen in any debate.

And I think we've seen some powerful moments in debates recently.

Winsom Earl Earl Sears is with us now Winsom when when she refused to even look at you was it your guess she would do that or did you actually think she would respond because I was I was dumbfounded by her response

no it occurred to me that she was I thought she was being cowardice but then it occurred to me no she's being calculating and cunning which is worse because when you look it up a calculating and cunning politician is one who uses methodologies to turn people against them.

They're manipulators, and they're like three, four steps ahead of you.

But then, you know, she has former CIA training, and it also says that they show no emotion.

And that's who she is.

At least if you're a coward, at some point you're going to get a backbone, and you're going to say to yourself, my God, I've got to do the right thing.

But I never saw that in her.

She was cold, and she was smirking so much.

And then, you know, she just adjusted herself.

And I'm thinking, this woman can't be governor.

She doesn't care about us.

So what was her calculation on that?

How is she planning on spinning that?

Well, because she's thinking, well, if I tell him to get out of the race, then these folks are going to be angry with me.

And if I tell him to stay in the race, then these folks are going to be angry with me.

And I didn't, you know, I have.

planned my life.

If you look at her life, she's lived a very careful, a very curated life, a very calculating life.

And you can see that she, you know, now I got to do this, and then I got to do this, and then I got to do that.

I don't know very many people who live that way.

I mean, we're all real people around here, and things happen to us, but they never seem to happen to her.

She always seems to, you know, just work her way.

And I'm thinking, my God,

this is something else.

She doesn't have the right common sense ideas.

And when she knows what the right thing to do, she doesn't take those hits.

And I'm telling you, if you're running to be governor, you've got to have a backbone.

But she's more of a calculating, cunning person.

That's usually what we get now from the Uber left, is calculation, and they won't tell you who they are until they start enacting, until they have power.

When she was asked about the question about boys being in girls sports, it's another one.

She didn't give a yes or no.

Did she?

No, she didn't.

She just looked and stared off into space as if, you know, I got this.

I'm over this.

I'm above this.

You know, we don't elect our politicians from above us.

We elect them from among us.

And you need to come back and talk to me, you know, and ask me my opinion.

You know, I want to know, do you know me?

Do you see me?

Do you hear me?

Do you want to hear from me?

I didn't leave politics for 20 years and come back to be mealy-mouthed.

That's not what we want.

And that's what she is.

She also wants to make Virginia a sanctuary state on day one,

and she doesn't seem to understand the benefit of local police working with the federal government and federal police.

Can you explain this?

Oh, she does.

But you see, they're trying to change things and what they do.

So she and people like her in politics, they divide the people, they put in policies that, you know, have us at each other's throats so then they can say, see, this is why you need us.

And they, you know, ride in like the cavalry to come help us.

We don't need that, because if she had stopped the open borders, fentanyl wouldn't have flowed through and killed five Virginians every week.

If she had kept the borders closed, then we wouldn't have had the Chinese communist gangs.

We wouldn't have MS-13 and Trendaragua and all those people come through.

We wouldn't be now seeing ICE

having to do what they're doing to get those who are criminally illegal gone.

And so this is their doing.

and now they're saying oh look how bad ice is do you see what they're doing but you did it you started it and now you're on the other side i'm telling you this is cunning stuff you really got to you know think about this hard

there is uh stu what was the name of that um uh islamic organization that she was a part of right after september 11th she was very very proud of being part of this um and i i don't know if you know yeah the

ISA school.

And I don't know if you're aware of her ties to deep ties to Islamists in Virginia.

No, I'm not aware.

But see, that's the other thing.

You know, she's part of a group that, well, there are five schools here who will not protect our girls from the men coming into the bathrooms, from the men standing full front nude in the locker rooms with girls.

And when we talk about these things, they try to make us look like we're the people who don't have any sense.

Even when I ask her about her own children,

you know, Abigail, what if it's your child who comes and she's crying?

What are you going to do then?

Silence, nothing, nothing.

Just cold, just cold.

Who is this woman who wants to be our governor here in Virginia?

We can't have her.

She's going to destroy our business.

You know, we've created so many jobs here, over 250,000 job openings now, 276,000 people we've put back to work.

We've put in child care money.

We are keeping the right to work so you don't have to be forced to join a union and then drive up wages, which doesn't help anybody.

We've gotten rid of 91,000-plus job-killing regulations, and businesses are coming.

The U-Hauls are finally coming back to Virginia, stopping here.

She doesn't know how to do any of that.

She was never here when we were making all these great choices for Virginia.

So I don't need on-the-job training.

I have been doing the work.

Where have you been, Abigail?

Oh, in Congress making decisions against us.

Now, it was easy, right, when she was one of 400, what, 35 members of Congress, but now she's by herself, and she's got to stand on all those decisions she's made.

Even Joe Biden, in his most lucid moments, vetoed a bill that she voted for, which kept D.C.

where you see the crime is today.

She's soft on crime and voted that for criminal penalties to be absolutely reduced for the most heinous crimes.

That's what she wants to do in Virginia.

And don't even talk about energy policy.

She has none.

Oh, it's solar and wind.

And what do we do?

What do we do when the sun isn't shining?

Isn't it actually worse than no energy policy?

Isn't the energy policy of Virginia pretty much the energy policy of California?

Aren't you guys tied together with the California regulations?

So we were until Virginians put Governor Yunkin and myself and our Attorney General Jason Niars in office, and we got us out of there because, wait a minute, Glenn, you did see that even Gavin Newsom now is suing the oil refineries and the gas industry because

they want to leave California.

And you've been against them, Gavin, all this time.

You and the other Democrats, and now you're suing them to force them to stay.

This is nonsense.

None of this makes any sense.

And you know, Glenn, here's why this is important: that we have a head on our shoulders.

The Industrial Revolution is still happening, the technological revolution is still happening.

I was reading about China two days ago.

They have factories in China that don't even have any people.

The lights aren't even on because it's all robotic.

So while we're trying to figure out who a woman is, they have moved on.

China's China's going to eat our lunch if we're not careful.

So what is the big thing that would be the difference between you and a Junckin administration and certainly a Spanberger administration?

What's the big thing that you bring to the table?

Well, we bring a continued success story, and success begets success.

And for a long time, Abigail was running on our successes.

I mean, we've lowered taxes to the tune of returning $9 billion back to the people of Virginia, even as we kept our AAA bond rating, even as we up teacher pay 18 percent, even as we've been attracting businesses, even as we have decompressed the pay for our law enforcement and Department of Corrections personnel.

I mean, even as we've put in new programs to help those who are mentally ill, I mean, we've done so, we've put roads and bridge money.

We've done so much, and it's because we know know how to do this.

I mean, I've run my own business.

The governor has run businesses.

My opponent doesn't know any of this.

She would just destroy everything, put all those regulations back, put all those taxes back, put us back in the greenhouse gas initiative of California.

I mean, every single Democrat voted.

for this green initiative.

And you know what it's doing?

It's driving up our costs in Virginia.

And

you probably heard of our energy bills where people are paying $800 a month, up to $1,600 a month, and winter is coming.

This is what the Democrats have given us.

And when I'm governor, I'm going to repeal that darned act because it does nothing but drive up costs.

We cannot have Abigail.

She will destroy everything that we've done.

You know, I know nobody mentions this, and it's not really important.

It's not important to me, but it is worth mentioning at least.

On the left, they'd be running.

This is all this campaign would be about.

You were the first woman elected to lieutenant governor, the first black woman and female veteran to hold a statewide office in Virginia.

You will be the first black woman to be a governor

if you win in Virginia.

That's pretty remarkable.

It's remarkable for a country that everybody on the left keeps saying is a racist country.

You know who said we were not a racist country?

Biden.

And by the way, Kabla said that there was no systemic racism in America.

And they said that in 2021.

I guess they forgot that a little bit later because, what, their side wasn't liking that?

And I'm from a third world country.

Think of this.

I am an immigrant, and yet here I sit, second in command in the former capital of the Confederate States.

Don't tell me that America is not a great country.

And yet, we have enough people on the left teaching their children, Glenn, to hate their own country.

Their own country.

What in the world?

It's amazing.

Winsom, thank you so much.

We pray for you.

We hope you do really well in the election.

How long have the voting, early voting, been going on now?

Oh, we've been voting since no, we're about in our fourth week now.

We've been voting since September 19th.

Yes, and this is what the Democrats have given us, open season.

And that's why we've got to win.

We've got to change things.

And by the way, the polls are looking very good.

The Trafalgar poll shows that I am two down, but its margin of error is four.

So I'm either two up or right in the middle.

And the Washington Post, of all, of all newspapers, I would hope that they would tell the truth.

But they are showing polls where I'm 13 down, and they know it to be a lie.

We can't have press like that.

This is America.

We look to our press to give us truth.

Or maybe not.

Yeah, I was just going to say, Washington Post are kind of giving up on, but I appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

We're going to talk about the polls here in just a second.

Winsom, thank you so much.

Where can people go to join your campaign and help you out?

Yes, she's outraising me four to one, but by the grace of God, we're still standing.

I need your help.

Winsomforgovernor.com.

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Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thank you.

God bless you.

Thank you.

I just love her.

I just think she would make a great, great governor.

She's really smart.

She's business-minded, common sense, and

really has a lot of empathy.

I just love her.

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Okay.

Can you go over some of the polls here, Stu?

Yeah, sure.

So, you know, the race has been interesting in that it had,

you know, people call Virginia a purple state.

I tend to call it a light blue state.

It is not, you know, Republicans can win there in good, in good times, but I think it's difficult

in normal times for Republicans to win in Virginia.

And so this race had kind of played out that way in that, you know, you have a president that's not particularly popular in Virginia right now.

And so the race, despite the fact that, as you point out,

the Youngkin administration with Sears as part of it has really been incredibly successful for Virginia.

The race has been in that sort of high-single digits range, mid-to-high single-digits range this entire time.

What's changed, of course, over the past couple of weeks is the Jay Jones situation, which does seem to have at least made some dent in that lead.

If you look at the most recent polls, Trafalgar has polling that is interesting on this point, in that Trafalgar had Maeris down by 3.8 points against Jay Jones as of a week or two ago.

Now

Maaris is up by 5.8.

So a massive switch since the scandal started with him.

Seems to have moved the polls a little bit in Winsom Earl Sears' favor as well.

She was trailing, according to Trafalgar, by 5.2 points a couple weeks ago, and is now 2.6 is the margin.

So it is a close race, though you'd still probably would say she's the underdog and needs all the help she can get.

Early voting, early voting, early voting.

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phrase that is carved into the marble at the Supreme Court, and it says, equal justice under the law.

Equal justice under the law.

That is the one thing that we have really forgotten about here in America, America, it seems.

You want special justice.

You want justice for this group or that group.

But no, no, no.

I want equal justice.

It's why justice is blindfolded.

Justice should never see who's at the bench.

They should see what are the facts of the case.

And who's at the bench should not make a difference.

I don't care if you're rich or you're poor, you're homeless or you're Bill Gates.

I don't really care.

I want to know the facts.

And then we judge that not looking at the person.

That's the closest we can come to perfect justice.

And the farther we, the more we take that blindfold off of justice, the more corrupt justice becomes.

And we know this because that's why if you were black back in the day, you couldn't get a fair hearing.

You couldn't get a fair trial because justice wasn't blindfolded.

Okay?

That's why it's up on the Supreme Court.

Equal justice under the law.

And it's not a suggestion.

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It It is the beating heart of the American experiment.

You know, no man, no movement, no institution, no creed stands above the law.

Now, the reason why I bring this up is because last week I was at a turning point event in North Dakota, and I said all the way through, I hate these questions and answers things because I don't believe I hate conflict.

And I also don't believe anybody is doing anything other than trying to win.

When you're in a crowd, somebody is trying to win.

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But now how do we get there?

For instance, last week I talked to you, or yesterday I talked to you about AI.

Earlier, it seems like last week already.

earlier in our number one in the podcast i was talking to you about ai and i don't know the right answer on that yet we have to have that debate

but an honest debate on things so last week i started taking questions and boy did they take these and selectively edit interesting but i was asked you know glenn uh how come apac

That's the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

How come they don't register as a foreign agent under FARA, the Foreign Agents Registration Act?

Well, I know that Hunter Biden was supposed to, you know, register under that, or was he?

Now, I said at the time, I don't know anything about it.

I haven't looked into that, but I will do my homework on it because I want to know.

And my guess is if they don't, then there's something wrong with our law.

Okay.

Either they're getting special favors that they shouldn't, or many people are getting special favors and they shouldn't.

Everyone should have to obey the law and equal treatment.

Justice is blind.

Okay, so let me tell you now.

I went home.

I did my homework.

Let me tell you what I found on APAC.

First of all, it is bigger than APAC, much bigger.

It is a mirror held up to an uneven application of American law.

Let me tell you what FARA is supposed to do.

It was passed in 1938 to stop the Nazi propaganda.

There were lots of Nazis here in America.

And it requires anyone that is working on behalf of a foreign government to register as a foreign agent.

Seems simple,

but is it?

It requires transparency and accountability.

But here's where it gets murky in the law.

APAC is an American lobbying organization registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act, not FARA,

because it's funded and run by American citizens, not a foreign government.

Now, that's the legal line.

Now, I don't agree with this, but that's the legal line.

But APAC is not the only one running this.

So, why are we only hearing about the Jews controlling the government and APAC doing it when they're not the only one?

Did you know the National Iranian American Council, the Armenian Assembly of America, the Turkish Heritage Organization, even Saudi Arabia's Aramco,

their subsidiary, Motiva, operate under exactly the same.

You want Saudi Arabia an Aramco?

Why are they not paying it?

Why are they not registered under FARA?

Now, some people will defend this because they say these are groups of Daspora.

They are U.S.-based subsidiaries.

They have domestic roots, etc.

I don't buy any of that bullcrap.

I mean, that's me.

I mean, we can argue it, but I don't agree with it.

Because I think it is a really dangerous loophole that allows quiet foreign money to come in and influence influence and hide behind a U.S.

address.

But here's where it gets serious.

This is not just a legal issue.

This is about truth.

When you and I, or anyone else, begin selecting only the facts that make our point while ignoring those that don't, we stop doing research and we start doing propaganda.

If you've listened to voices that pick and choose data to inflame your anger, you have to start asking yourself this question.

Is my source being honest?

I ask you all the time, do your own homework.

I'm the guy, I think, who popularized that with the youth now.

Do your own homework.

Don't take my word for it.

Do your own homework.

But that requires that you do homework on all fronts.

You ask honest questions.

Am I wrong?

Is this wrong?

I want to read the opposite side, and I want to see what's credible on both sides and bring it together.

Example, once you learn that the Iranians, Cubans, Saudis, Armenians, and Turks all have the same objection,

yet it's only the Jewish organization that is accused of secretly controlling Washington, do you see a disturbing pattern here?

Because

the argument starts to sound less like a legal concern and more like something far older and darker.

And that was my point.

I said, look, you don't have to agree with Israel.

I don't want to fight their wars.

I don't want to do anything.

I support them in their right to defend themselves as they see fit.

Okay.

I don't support anything like genocide.

I don't believe they're doing genocide.

I do believe Hamas is.

And I do believe you can make a very, very clear case that Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran are evil.

And I said, look, you don't have to accept Israel

and you don't have to accept Hamas.

You can say nobody's a good guy in this.

But when you look at things like APAC, if there's more, and this is what I said, if it's about something legal, then we have to correct that.

And the argument would be over.

I could say what I'm saying today and say, look, we should have listened to Tom Cotton.

He introduced legislation on this.

All of this has to stop.

So let's do that.

Why are we dividing ourselves on an ancient, you know, Jews control the world thing when that's not even true about APAC?

Okay?

because everybody else is doing it too

the problem isn't Judaism it's it's not Islam it's not any one nation quite honestly if you want to be honest the problem is our laws and our politicians equal justice under the law it must be our demand every day Jew Muslim Gentile

Hunter Biden everyone everyone should be the same under the law.

What's happened instead is that this loophole has become a weapon and people twist it to their own, you know, their own delight to suggest that APEC, you know, runs the U.S.

government and the Pentagon and the president, which is laughable, especially this week.

That is laughable.

Just look at the events of the last few days.

Do you really think that Donald Trump is being controlled by Israel?

Have you heard what he has said to Benjamin Netanyahu?

Have you seen all of the Egyptians and the Saudis and everybody else in the Arab world all now lining up for this peace?

When he bombed Iran, he's not fighting Israel's war.

When he bombed Iran, he wasn't on Israel.

It wasn't for Israel any more than it was for Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

You found out yesterday that the one thing they all unite on is that

Iran is the real problem there.

And what he did was a show of peace through strength, the same principle that ended the decades of stalemate between Arab nations and Israel.

And here's another thing.

When you stop sending pallets of cash to your enemies and you start saying, don't do that anymore, and I'm serious, they tend to listen.

And what was the result?

You could speculate, and I worried at the time.

I said it on the air.

I'm worried that this could escalate things, but it didn't.

So what is the result?

The result was not an endless war where we're over fighting, you know,

in the Middle East.

I don't want that.

Neither do you.

The result was true Arab-Israeli peace, the first chance of true peace

in a millennia.

And now he's taken that credibility of saying, look, I'll be tough on the Arabs.

I'll be tough on the Iranians.

I'll be tough on the Jews, I'll be tough on Hamas.

However, I will say, Hamas, you do these things and I'm with you.

He yesterday invited Iran into the League of Nations.

Look, just because we bombed you, it doesn't mean we hate you.

We want you to have peace.

So come on in.

Now he's taken that same credibility and now he's turning it towards Russia and Ukraine.

And he's doing that.

He's meeting with the leadership of Ukraine on Friday.

And he's going to apply the same exact principle.

And here's what's going to happen.

The same people who said he was once a Russian puppet will now accuse him of getting us into a war with Russia and do Ukraine's bidding.

Which one is it?

Which one is it?

May I suggest a third reason?

Maybe, just maybe,

for the first time I believe in my lifetime, we are seeing

an American president doing America's bidding, trying to broker peace, trying to keep us out of these endless wars.

Because honestly, isn't that what all of us want?

I don't care who you voted for.

Do you want more foreign wars?

Because I don't.

I'm tired of it.

Do you want to see more blood and treasure spilled in some unknown country?

Isn't that what we all want is an end of these wars?

No more young Americans spilling their blood in distant deserts or frozen tundras for somebody else's freedom who I don't even know if they really want freedom.

I want freedom here.

I want to be able to show the world what people who actually

understand what freedom is, know what the high price is that we have to pay for our own freedom, not your freedom, our freedom.

What we can do with that freedom.

We want to be a shining city on the the hill that everybody can look at and go, look at those guys.

I want to be more like them.

Not going over to other countries and jamming it down their throat.

I want peace, but peace grounded in strength and honesty and the unbreakable, carved-in stone promise of equal justice under the law.

That's what we have to do to restore faith in the republic.

We have to stop taking little bits and pieces.

Look at the whole thing and say, what's corrupt?

Well, what's corrupt here might have started as a good thing, but it's no longer a good thing.

We have to change the law.

Equal justice under the law.

I'm sorry.

If you are doing the bidding, Hunter Biden or APAC or the Iranian Council or Armenian Council or whatever,

I'm sorry, we have to tighten this down because money has changed.

It's changed.

Things that were happening in 1945, 1955, 65, 85, 95, 2005, it's changed.

And I don't want any foreign influence coming into this country unless we know exactly you're influencing for a foreign country.

Because this is what makes us different than every other country that's come before.

And that's not ideology, that's not party, that's not tribe.

That's how we have to define America again if we're going to survive.

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Sorry, but you asked me to do my own homework on APAC.

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There is a story that is happening that is really unbelievable.

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that will tell us the story, his investigation on something that started popping up over the summer.

There is a takeover, seemingly, seemingly a takeover of this texas town uh it's a small town in west texas very small population it's harsh harsh living and these people from the city are moving in there they're no i mean what are you doing working in the city you're coming to west texas most of them didn't have any idea how harsh it was to live in west texas But it appears as though they are trying to flip the control of the state or the control of that area and become become commissioners and mayors and everything else.

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He is a Houston Chronicle investigative reporter, and he has been reporting on this seemingly crazy story.

When you first heard about this, Eric, did you have a hard time believing it?

Because I know I did.

I did have a hard time believing it, at least the particulars of it, In terms of the general idea that something crazy could happen out in Loving County, that was a little more believable.

I've been covering the area for a little while, and it's a peculiar spot out in far west Texas.

Okay.

Can we rule out one thing?

Is any of this, because it seems to be when I first heard it, they're saying a lot of black people are moving in.

And I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's okay.

Maybe that's okay, white people.

Is this in any way

influenced by race, do you think?

I mean,

you know, at first blush, it might seem that way, but my reporting didn't really show that.

It is true that the group of people moving in is called the melanated people of power.

It refers to their skin color.

Most, if not all of them, appear to be black.

But I also interviewed people in Loving County, including some black folks who live there.

And, you know, they said that there wasn't anything really racial about what was happening out there.

Okay, so who are these people that are moving in?

How is this happening?

And what are they after?

So they are followers of a guy named Dr.

Malcolm Tanner, who's an Indiana resident.

And over the summer, he started promoting on his social media platforms this program where if you moved out to Loving County, Texas, you would get a free home and $5,000 a month in free income.

And so far, about three dozen people have moved out there.

And is that a lot for this town?

What is the population of this county?

So Loving County has about 70 people in all.

It has one city called Mentone.

So for commissioner seats, those seats that have precincts, you can win with about a dozen votes.

If you want to run for and win as a sheriff or as a county judge, which in Texas is the highest administrative office in a county,

you can have that office for maybe four or five dozen votes.

So yeah, 30 people is starting to build a substantial voting block out there.

And

who is this guy in Indiana that's doing this?

So he's kind of mysterious.

He's a charismatic guy.

He

has

claimed that he started this melanated people of power to

enfranchise folks who typically don't have political or economic power of their own.

He claims he's an entrepreneur.

He claims that he's a philanthropist, but really nailing down things about him is pretty difficult.

He's got a trail of lawsuits in Indiana against the city of Muncie, against Grant County, having to do with property disputes.

He calls himself doctor, but he doesn't identify which institution conferred that degree on him.

But as I said, what he does have is a fairly sizable social media presence, and it seems to his message seems to be speaking to a lot of people you know all over the country the folks who have moved to loving county have come from Georgia Mississippi South Carolina some within Texas but really from all over

so you don't improve somebody's station in life by giving them free housing and $5,000 a month you you create jobs you you help them create their own life and their own path what is his plan other than just continuing to pay for these you know this trail these trailers?

Because they're mobile homes, right?

So

paying for the mobile homes and then the $5,000 a month,

that's not a plan.

Yeah, I don't know if he has a grand economic plan.

You know, what I can tell you is that based on the people who have moved out there and kind of reading it on social media, it's, you know, the idea of a free home for someone who can't otherwise afford one or, you know, for whom that seems out of reach is a pretty powerful lure, right?

And he has said that, you know, if we get enough people out here, we'll kind of,

you know, goose industry and bring in businesses.

I mean, the truth is that Loving County

is doing very well for itself right now.

It's in the middle of the Permian Basin, which is the big oil and gas producing region of Texas.

And

they have about,

say, 70 permanent residents, and their budget this year is going to be about $60 million for a little, so a little less than a million dollars per person.

You know, overwhelmingly, that money comes from oil and gas taxes that they collect.

So there's already a lot of money out there.

There's, you know, besides oil and gas, there's a couple of support service businesses, you know, some gas stations,

one or two restaurants, but not a ton else.

Okay, so what is the city doing to

investigate, to stop this, or can they do anything?

Well, one of the really interesting things to me about Loving County is that it does have this very long history of kind of dicey voter registration and voting out there, that there are a couple of powerful families out there.

They've been feuding in recent years.

And

in order to kind of keep and maintain power, they've been pretty loose with voter rules.

So people who may have moved away from there.

you know, years and years ago are still registered to vote there.

So the result of that is that there are many more people registered to vote in Loving County than who actually live there.

That's a long way of saying that to a lot of people, of saying that a lot of people who live out there, this is kind of the, you know, the chickens coming home to roost, that they've promoted and lived with the system for quite a while.

And here's someone who's come in, you know, looking to take advantage of it.

So the only thing they can really do is make sure that all the boxes are checked on the voter registration forms.

Outside of the county, however,

there have been some investigations mounted.

A couple of state representatives have asked for investigations by the Texas Secretary of State, which is the office that oversees elections here in Texas.

There's a U.S.

representative, Chip Roy, who has asked for an investigation.

And then yesterday, our Attorney General, Ken Paxton, filed a lawsuit asking for a restraining order and also accusing the group of violating a handful of local laws.

His purpose seems to be trying to shut it down.

Where does this end up?

I mean, as a reporter, I know you don't report on future news, but

where does this lead?

Well, I mean, the most obvious point is that living in Loving County, particularly in the conditions that these folks are living, is pretty difficult, right?

I mean, it's an arid, isolated place.

It's very hot out there.

There's no trees.

It's just a bunch of, you know, creosote and caliche and scrub land.

And so it's a

yeah, it's, it's, it's hard.

And there's no services out on this piece of property that Malcolm Tanner has purchased.

He purchased two five-acre plots out there in January, and they're about 30-minute drive out, you know, kind of rough oil company roads outside of the only town.

It's about an hour away from the nearest grocery store.

So if your plan is to live out there in these conditions without water, without sewage, without electricity, and you want to run for office.

Well,

they haul in water.

I think they have some generators out there.

They have some RVs that may have their own kind of temporary power systems.

But if your plan is to run for office and the primaries are not until March of next year, that's quite a while to basically camp, you know, in some pretty harsh conditions.

So it may resolve itself and people may, you know, people, as you pointed out, are coming from cities and urban areas and they may not be accustomed to the harsh conditions.

So it may resolve on its own.

There may be

the authority of the government, you know, kind of pushing them out through a variety of alleged broken laws.

And if that doesn't happen, then it'll be fascinating to see if they actually can win office out there.

What are you working on next for this story?

I've been following up on the the investigations that have been done by the,

you know, as I said, the Attorney General.

I'll be following up the

district attorney out there is also mounting an investigation.

I'm trying to learn some more about Malcolm Tanner.

I'm trying to learn some more about the people who have moved out there and what their backgrounds are.

And, of course, we'll be following the elections, which, as I said, are always fascinating in Loving County.

Almost every election there is challenged based on residency.

So it's a never-ending source of news despite the small population.

You know what it reminds me of is the Old West.

I mean, this kind of stuff happened in the Old West where the big, you know, the big money would want to change a town and they would bring people in and they would change it and control it.

I mean, it really harkens back to the 1800s in some ways, doesn't it?

Yeah, I mean, there is an element of, you know, kind of being isolated way out there in the middle of nowhere in West Texas.

I mean, even the names of the people, you know, the old-time sheriff who's the patriarch of the kind of powerful family there, his name was Punk, and the current county jones, or the current county judges' names is Skeet.

And

yeah, it's a very kind of, it's a place of rugged individuals.

And I won't say lawlessness, but definitely, you know,

it's out there.

Yeah, it's out there.

Eric, thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

And keep us up to speed on this.

We'll be following your stories.

Houston Chronicle investigative reporter

Erica Dexheimer,

following what's happening in Loving County, Texas, it is so weird, Stu.

All the things that are happening in Texas where they are doing everything they can to take Texas and flip it blue.

And I'm not convinced that that's what this is.

No.

You know, I don't know what this is, but it is, it's weird.

It's really, really weird.

Yeah, it reminds me of Wild, Wild Country, the documentary on Netflix.

It was a series that came out a few years ago where it was a story of, I can't remember the name of the group off the top of my head, but they went into Washington or Oregon and tried to take over a town like the 80s or 80s, maybe.

By the way, an incredible documentary if you've never seen it.

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An insane story.

It seems like groups do this every once in a while.

Someone, you know, with a big ego or, you know, someone accuse some of these groups as

cultish type behavior, like just move into areas and just take them over and try to take over the town council and everything else so they can

run their little thing the way they want to run it.

I'm always fascinated by those stories.

Yeah, I'm not sure what this one is, but people are comparing this with Elon Musk.

What's the problem?

Elon Musk did this.

No, Elon Musk was creating thousands of jobs.

Elon Musk wasn't like, I'm going to build you a house and send you $5,000 and you don't do anything for it.

That's not what Elon Musk and sending you into a trailer with no services whatsoever.

I mean, his town is going to be a model town, already is, a model town

in Texas.

He's creating something and creating jobs.

There's a purpose for people to move there.

Here, there is no seeming purpose.

If you've never been to West Texas, imagine the moon

if it was a lot closer to the sun.

I mean, a lot closer to the sun.

That is West Texas.

You're in for quite a surprise if you've never been to West Texas and you're like, I'm moving to West Texas.

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Good luck with that.

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Rumble, I think, is carrying the whole ceremony as well at 4 p.m.

Eastern Time.

It should be pretty special.

It should be pretty special.

Okay, Stu.

I mean,

I've got the organ harvesting I could go to.

I mean, unless you've got something else you could talk about it.

Do we have enough time for organ harvesting talk here, Sarah?

No, she says no.

She says no.

She's been trying to shut this down the last two weeks.

Wow.

She really has been.

I think she might be.

I'm just going to throw it out there.

This is not an accusation legally, but like she might have some investments in the organ harvesting field that she's trying to, you know, I don't know, move along in the right direction.

You know what makes me want you to take my organs out and sell them to people is the idea of Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau kissing on a yacht.

I don't know if you've seen that photo.

I did see those photos.

Yes.

Was he in Blackface?

Could you tell from that distance?

I couldn't tell you.

I could not tell.

I could not tell.

But he might have been doing a little show for her.

I'm not really sure.

But please take my organs.

Please.

Yes.

Take them down.

Don't make me look at that anymore.

We've heard your alcohol history, your health issues.

I don't think people have any interest in your organs in particular.

It's a high price for my organs.

I'm not, I'm just by the pound from you, I think is the way they would do it.

That's yeah.

But on the

the I love the photos they take of these situations, Glenn, like as if they were just like some reporters out in the ocean and they just happened to be posting, they're just taking pictures of boats.

You know, they weren't tipped off of this.

They didn't want this relationship to break, but they just

look, just a bunch of TMZ people out in boats somewhere just taking pictures of people kissing on the deck.

And they just happened to catch Katie Perry.

I didn't realize that those TMZ people, I thought they had Kodak cameras, the little disposable box cameras.

No, it's not.

I mean,

these were photographers?

It's just stunning how these news breakers are always out there.

Anything you do on a boat could be photographed at any time, boys and girls.

Always remember that.

And I could hurl at any time.

Again,

it's a bit easier to talk about.

Which one are you?

Which one has the bad situation there, would you say?

Oh,

she does, and that's saying

this is Glenn Beck.

I didn't know she was a lesbian, honestly.

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There is

some disturbing things coming out of New York on Mamdani.

We're going to get to that probably, hopefully tomorrow,

because it's stuff that you really need to hear.

And tomorrow I'm going to go more in depth on this one.

I can't make sense of this story.

And I go to John Solomon because I think he is

the fairest of all of the journalists out there.

I think he's really, really fair, tries to do the right thing.

And this story is about the Pentagon's pledge

that Pete Hagseth is trying to get the reporters to sign.

And

the Pentagon is saying this is not changing.

This is just codifying things here.

I mean, the press can no longer roam free.

Well, when did they?

I mean, I've been to the White House.

I've not been to the Pentagon, but I've been to the White House.

Man, you don't go anywhere without a badge.

You got that V for visitors

and

you don't have it.

They stop you.

So he said the press has to have a press badge at all times.

They can no longer roam free.

They have to wear a visible badge.

They also have to, when they're meeting with top officials, there has to be another witness with them.

So they can't just meet one-on-one.

I think that's fair.

Credential press no longer permitted to solicit criminal acts.

I mean, I don't even understand that one.

What does that mean?

I think what he's going for here is we all know the system is broken.

The reason why we had all of these intel

on

why we should be doing different things and all of these smears against Donald Trump with the Russia and everything else, the press knows.

The press knows who they're talking to.

They're getting propaganda talking points from members of either the Pentagon or the intelligence community.

And they're trying to stop that.

They're trying to say, stop it.

You can't ask anybody to reveal things that they they shouldn't reveal.

I think that's what it is.

But that doesn't stop you from having somebody come to you and revealing something.

You know, what I'd really like to see is that,

you know, you go back voluntarily to two or three sources

and they got to be named.

They can't all be anonymous.

Somebody's got to be named in it.

Somebody has to take responsibility for this because all you're getting, you know, on the Hunter Biden thing, did you see the latest with John Brennan on this, this, on the Hunter Biden things too?

He, he actually, there's now a memo out from him that says, look, we're trying to put this together to be able to have Biden have some pushback at the debate on Tuesday night.

So when he got all those people to say, you know, I've never seen anything like this.

This is Russian propaganda.

The people that signed it knew this was being used for political purposes.

And now it's out there.

And John Brennan said, I never did anything like that.

Now we have the memo memo from him to all the people that signed it saying that's what he was doing.

Does anybody pay attention to that?

No.

But I think that's what the Pentagon is trying to do.

But everybody seems to be pushing back on that.

I shouldn't say everybody.

Newsmax is pushing back.

The Washington Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The New York Times, CNN, The Guardian, breaking defense, and other outlets said they wouldn't sign it.

So that means Fox isn't doing it.

OAN said that they would sign the pledge.

I don't know if the Blaze is going to sign the pledge.

But he said, you know, credentialed press no longer permitted to solicit criminal acts.

In other words, they're not permitted to publish information that hasn't been approved for release by the Department of Defense.

You know, again, if you're...

Seems reasonable.

Is it?

I mean, does the Department of Defense ⁇ I mean, like, we would not know a lot about our government if we gave approval to the Department of Defense for every news story that came out.

I mean, you can't do that, right, as a journalist?

Let me read that again.

Read that sentence again.

At least the way you read it, it hit me wrong.

The press is not permitted to publish information that hasn't been approved for release.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

No, they shouldn't have the right to do that.

You're right.

We have to be able to have people whistleblow.

This should all be covered in whistleblower laws, you know?

Yeah, and I mean, it's kind of covered in the First Amendment, isn't it?

I mean,

that doesn't mean that the person who's releasing the information at the Department of Defense is

cleared.

I mean, like, they shouldn't be doing that, but, like, the press has always had a right to be able to go after that information.

And I think

it should.

I was surprised by John Solomon's article because he quotes and says, you know, this has been done for a long time under Woodrow, Wilson, and under FDR.

And I'm like, those aren't good examples, Roger.

Those are not good examples.

I don't want to go back under that kind of stuff.

And I understand the the motivation there.

Like you want to stop obviously leaking.

Like that type of stuff is

most of the time the right thing to do for the government.

I would also argue,

you know, there probably are a lot of good pieces of intent in here and it's, you know, probably being reported somewhat wrong.

But what hits me is like, you point out, like, I'm not at all surprised the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal wouldn't sign something coming from a Trump DOD.

Newsmax?

I mean, Newsmax is not, like, you know, they have some really good people we really like, but they're generally speaking pretty big fans of Donald Trump.

Like, they.

Yeah, I find that interesting, too.

That they would say no games.

Yeah, that's giving me pause on it because I haven't obviously seen the document.

I've only seen reporting on it, and it's hard to know what exactly is being out,

what it really means.

I'm going to get the documents today.

I'll try to give you some information more on this, on what the truth is, because it keeps referencing documents that I can't find.

And so

we'll get those documents and we'll let you know what, you you know, at least what our stance is on this.

By the way, do you see the Philadelphia Medical Examiner has re-ruled this death of this woman in 2011?

Her name was Ellen Greenberg.

Her death was ruled a suicide, but she died of 20 stab wounds.

Now,

I'm not sure.

I mean, it reminds me, I don't know if you ever saw that musical Chicago, but he ran into my knife.

He ran into my knife 20 times.

You know, I mean, it's pretty hard to think that that is a suicide, but,

you know,

whatever.

Also, the anti-ice protests in Portland, I mean, we do not pay our police or our National Guard enough to put up with this.

The ICE, anti-ICE protests in Portland, now they are naked cyclists that are showing up

and they are blocking the driveway and throwing themselves against, you know,

we don't pay these people enough.

We just don't.

And what is the deal with the naked cyclist?

What?

I don't.

I'll tell you what the deal is.

I'll tell you what the deal is.

We are hideous creatures.

That's the deal.

I unfortunately stumbled upon this video and I don't know.

I mean, I guess, like, if you really think about it, other than yourself, which in both of our cases, hideous, passes by the mirror, other than that, like,

the people you see in either very little clothing or no clothing are often like the most attractive members of our species.

Like,

you know, like you're in, like, some ad or you're in, you know, watching some movie and, like, there's some scene with two people, and they're very attractive and all these other things.

And, like, you don't, like, that's not what we look like.

Like, we, we're disgusting.

I, I, every person going by, and by the way the bicycle is probably the worst possible thing you could do naked oh my gosh i can't see i was in i was in london two years ago and it was during you know pride month

and they had the naked cyclist

obviously yeah what nothing go ahead They had the naked cyclist going on, and I was in a store.

I just had to cross the street to get to my hotel.

Okay.

Just it's right across the street.

And I'm in a store with my children and my wife.

And all of a sudden, there's all these crowds and all this shouting and everything else.

And I turn around and I'm like, What's going on?

And the person inside went, Oh, it's the naked cyclist.

You may not want to give out.

And I'm like, What?

I go outside, Tanya and I both walk out, you know, and the kids are adults.

You know, the kids are 18.

And I'm like, I turn around immediately, go, You guys, back inside.

Tanya, you inside.

No one should be able to see this.

Keep your eyes on me.

The minute I can cross, just run out and cross with me.

It was like 30 minutes of, and they're English.

Okay.

So none of them are tan.

None of them are in shape.

None of them are good looking.

They all have horrible teeth.

And it's, it was horrible.

I mean, it was,

you know, it's not like breasts, you know, get better with it.

I mean, they just, they're so long.

And on the men, it's not so long.

You know what I mean?

It's just horrible.

It's, I do, there was no reason.

It didn't change anybody's life.

Nobody went, you know what?

I should be gay.

Yeah, no.

Nobody.

Nobody, I don't even know what their point was for this, but nobody went, you know, they make a good point.

You know, the Supreme Court is dealing with conversion therapy.

That's the way to have conversion therapy.

Have people go and look at one of those parades of naked bikers.

There's no one that's going to want to be gay.

Oh, no one.

And I don't understand.

What point are you trying to make?

What point are you trying to make?

It's just...

Look at me, I'm hideously ugly.

Right.

It just doesn't work.

You know, again, like

just think of the position you're in on a bicycle.

Like, you're hunched over.

Oh, I know.

You don't have to.

Your knees are getting close to your chest on a regular basis.

And I would say with some of the women in the situation banging up against things,

I will say

the whole thing is not good, Glenn.

And we are hideous creatures, and we should consider just never going outside.

We should consider just hiding from one another

because it's just awful.

Certainly, don't take your clothes off in public.

There were people that were so large, you could not see the seat.

Okay,

you could not, you saw the bar going up and no seat, and you're like,

it's not even

what do these bicycles do to you?

Oh, my God.

If they're rentals, burn them.

I hope whoever's renting the bicycles around that time, they just close up shop inexplicably for a weekend.

They're like, no, we're not renting anything this weekend.

Oh, boy, I gotta tell you, the insurance company comes in.

I could tell you they were lost in a fire, but it was the naked cyclists.

And I think the insurance company goes, we'll write that.

We'll write that.

You can't use those again.

Please light them on fire.

I don't care if they weren't on fire before, but now you need to light them on fire somewhere far away from here.

So bad.

One more thing.

You know, the Diesel brothers, David Sparks.

David Sparks was arrested.

He was on a podcast.

I have to get this podcast clip.

Maybe we'll do it tomorrow.

I'm trying to get him on the show.

He was arrested because

a judge found him in contempt for failing to pay almost a million dollars in fines.

And this whole thing is based on them trying to, you know, them polluting the air

and, you know, doing this diesel thing.

And

it's a crazy story in the first place.

They arrest him, and the court orders him to pay $843 in, $1,000 in, you know, I think they are environmental crimes and fines.

And they put him in solitary confinement for three days.

Now, how does this guy go into solitary confinement for three days?

How is that reasonable at all?

This story perplexes me.

And we're going to hear from him.

I want to get him on the air here because he talked to this story.

We'll play at least the clip of when I had him on last time and he talked about it.

And he explained what happened.

And it's nuts.

It's absolutely nuts.

And

it is Utah losing their mind.

It is that, that's what it is.

Utah has lost their mind.

So we'll get David Sparks on and we'll keep you up to speed on that story.

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Freedom's worth a lot more than comfort.

Here's what I found on the web about that private conversation you just had.

What?

Are you uncomfortable yet?

Glenn Beck is back after this.

It's a terrific day for the hostage families.

It's a terrific day for President Trump,

for our national interests.

You're right, we don't know how the story ends, but stories are made up of chapters.

As Richard Haas knows, he was very much in the arena now 35 years ago

at the end of the First Gulf War when

there was a great conference in Madrid

as we tried to reset the peace process.

Nine years later, President Clinton, in the last hours of his presidency, made a noble attempt at Camp David.

We can go on and on about the various chapters, but we should make no mistake about this.

This is a

victory for President Trump.

What you've just heard aired on MSNBC.

MSNBC aired that.

We could have gone through a dozen different clips from mainstream media sources.

that gave the same type of sentiment.

This is a great day for President Trump.

I'm really happy the hostages are home.

I'm starting to worry, though.

When we start hearing praise on MSNBC for something, this

what did we

not see here?

I mean, is there some like hidden global warming tax in this hostage deal?

What's happening?

We'll just have to watch closely, I guess.

This is Glenn Beck.