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What a historic historic day

president trump has just greeted all of the hostages they all have been returned anyone alive uh they are still getting the bodies of those that uh

they say they know where the bodies are um but they haven't been able to check them they're still checking for bombs in the coffins, etc., etc.

Hopefully nothing

is there and we can have real peace.

The hostage square is what they call it in Tel Aviv, it was a crazy, crazy scene.

People were, I mean, they were booing Benjamin Netanyahu and cheering Donald Trump.

There were a lot of them wearing MAGA apparel, holding up signs with, you know, Donald Trump's image and Nobel Peace Prize.

It is,

it's quite a scene in Israel.

Now, the president is on his way.

He just spoke to the Knesset.

We'll give you some highlights of that.

He's on his way to Egypt to sign this peace deal that includes the entire Middle East.

What the president has done is nothing short of miraculous.

And I want to give you the kind of a background so you understand how historic this is.

We'll give you pieces of the president's speech and how it all came together in 60 seconds.

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For the first time in living memory, the guns have gone quiet in Gaza.

Hostages that have been held now for over two years years have just walked free.

And for the very first time, not in decades, but perhaps a millennia or two, the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob

have signed something that might resemble more than just a ceasefire.

You have to understand before we start how significant and how impossible it is to reach this point.

This is not like anything we've ever seen before.

The conflict did not begin in 1948.

It didn't begin with the British mandate and the creation of the state of Israel.

The story really begins with

the ancient people of Israel and the sands of Canaan,

where the people of Israel and the people called the Philistines clashed over the same spot of earth called Gaza.

The Bible records Gaza as one of the five cities of the Philistines.

And this is the place, Gaza is the place where the Philistines gathered their strength.

It was in Gaza that Samson, the judge of Israel, was betrayed, captured, blinded, and paraded through the streets as the Philistines mocked him, much like you saw on October 7th.

It was in Gaza that he brought the temple down on them, you know, one man against the empire.

History has a very long memory in that land.

We call it the Gaza Strip today, but it has seen conquerors come and go, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Ottomans, the British.

And yet, somehow or another, the one rivalry that is from, you know, 2,000, 3,000 years ago, remains, the one between the children of Israel and those who dwell along the sea.

That's an important thing.

Palestinians of the ancient world, in biblical

context,

are different than the Palestinians.

They were the group, they were not Semitic, they weren't Jewish, and they concentrated on the coast of Israel, Gaza.

The modern Palestinian identity came, you know, a millennia later.

And that was shaped by the Arab, Islamic, and

historic developments in that area.

It's not directly connected to the Philistines.

However, Philistine and Palestinian both mean people that dwell on the coast.

The word Hamas

is an acronym

which means, you know, in their language, the Islamic resistance movement.

But in Hebrew, Hamas means something altogether different.

It means violence.

And this is in Hebrew, in Genesis 6, 11.

The earth was filled with Hamas, violence, violence, corruption, wickedness.

It was because of Hamas that the rains came and Noah had to build the ark.

Because of Hamas.

So when you hear the word Hamas, understand what it means to the Israeli ear compared, you know, to the Palestinian ear.

It's not just an enemy, it's a biblical echo, a spiritual warning from deep, deep time.

So for 75 years, they have been trying to make peace between these ancient adversaries.

Everybody has tried to do it.

In my lifetime, the Camp David Awards or Accords were in 1978, the Oslo Accords in 1993, endless roadmaps, summits, UN resolutions, and nothing.

Every single one of them hailed as historic, and each one declared a new chapter, and every one of them failed.

And it's not because the diplomats lack skill, but because

too many on, you know, one side, the entire Arab world, didn't believe Israel had a right to exist.

And everyone was looking for a political solution.

Then comes Donald Trump.

Donald Trump didn't approach this, you know, as a professor of Middle East studies.

He didn't approach this with the hundred years of expertise from the State Department.

In fact, he looked at the State Department expertise and went, You guys aren't really experts at anything.

You haven't solved anything.

And you keep trying the same thing.

What are we doing?

He took a business approach.

He knew all of the players because of business.

He knew all of the big players.

And so he

got in with all of the players and found out what do you really want.

And what they really want is stability.

If you look at what's being built in the Middle East,

they are these

incredible modern cities, incredible modern cities.

They want prosperity.

The Middle East does.

Hamas doesn't.

He saw a region, Donald Trump did, he saw a region that was addicted to U.S.

aid, endless negotiation, and so he just tore up the whole rule book and he recognized Jerusalem, first thing, as as the capital of Israel.

A move every single president before has been told by the State Department, you can't do that, it'll cause war.

And you know what?

It didn't.

He moved the embassy.

He then walked away from the Iran deal and he told the world that America is no longer going to apologize for standing with the only democracy in the Middle East.

And that's where all of the anti-Semitic stuff comes.

Because now, see, Israel is controlling our foreign policy.

Israel is controlling Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is doing the bidding of the Jews.

No,

no, no, he didn't.

No, he wasn't being controlled and no, they weren't controlling him.

It was actually seemingly quite the opposite because he did something extraordinary.

He took the entire region and brought them together.

First, he did it with the

Abraham Accords.

That is the first genuine realignment of the region in a generation, or maybe two.

And it wasn't about ideology.

It was all about survival, prosperity, and the shared fear of Iran's growing shadow.

When we dropped the bombs on Iran, Americans and people in the West and people who have been educated in our universities and been indoctrinated with all this garbage,

They looked at that and said, oh my gosh, look at he's doing Israel's bidding.

No, he was actually doing Israel's bidding.

He was doing Saudi Arabia's bidding.

He was doing Turkey's bidding.

He was doing a bidding of Egypt.

Everyone in the Middle East,

everyone in the Middle East hates Iran.

They know how dangerous Iran is.

They wanted somebody to put Iran in its place.

So when Donald Trump did,

the Middle East, the Arab world, celebrated.

Now, not obviously not all of it, but a lot of it, the ones that are now at the table.

He did something else.

He proved himself to be an honest broker and not doing the bidding of just Israel.

And I would love to hear all of the people who are now standing up and saying, see, we're just a puppet.

I would love for you to understand.

I would love to hear your explanation of this.

When Israel went after Qatar, which I don't have any love at all for Qatar,

but they went after Qatar,

and that was going to blow this whole thing up.

What happened?

Donald Trump went to Benjamin Netanyahu and said, you need to apologize to Qatar.

Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel is not going to apologize.

They ended up apologizing to Qatar.

It won't happen again.

That gave Donald Trump the image in the Middle East of not being the little boy toy, but the other way around.

He has some control of what Israel is going to do.

He can tell them, knock it off.

Then when everybody came to the table, the Middle East all came to the table and said, okay, we'll handle Hamas, you handle Israel.

So they got Hamas to the table and said, you're going to take this.

And we're going to guarantee the peace.

And Donald Trump went to Benjamin Etanyahoo and Benjamin Etanyahoo said, we have to finish the job.

We have to finish them off.

And Donald Trump said, no, you're going to take this deal now.

And Benjamin Eton Yahoo said, no, we have to finish them off.

And he said, I don't think you hear me.

You're going to take this deal.

That's how this happened.

That's a miracle.

He didn't try to make them friends.

He tried to make them partners.

They all want prosperity.

And now

we are looking at the fruits of the labor that started with the Abrahamic Accords.

The Arab states signed it to enforce peace rather than to sabotage it.

For the first time in 4,000 years, the blood-soaked sands of Gaza whispers something today that has been forgotten for 4,000 years, and that is hope.

If it holds,

even if it holds for a year, five years, ten years,

it means

centuries of hatred

has been overtaken by something stronger than hate.

And even if we just start with survival, that's good.

It means that the children of Abraham,

which is both the Arab and the Jew,

the descendants of Abraham, long divided by faith and pride, have decided choose life

over death trying to prove you're right.

It means the biblical land of Gaza, where Samson fell, where violence has filled the earth, might finally learn the meaning of peace.

But if it doesn't,

and the rockets return and the lies reawaken, then

this will just be another tombstone in the desert of broken promises.

But the Bible says, blessed are the peacemakers.

The Lord hates the hands that shed innocent blood.

So if this holds,

if this holds, if courage triumphs over chaos,

let's remember that peace is not the absence of war.

It's the presence of righteousness.

And righteousness, true moral clarity, demands that we call evil by its name.

And we stand with truth even when it's costly.

And we defend the innocent even when the world looks away.

And now it is our job.

As long as this holds, to rebuild.

I am so happy to say we are not being asked to rebuild.

Not our money.

The Middle Eastern money is coming in now to rebuild the region, as it should be.

Men haven't suddenly become good.

But for once, maybe they are choosing life over death and survival.

Or perhaps they've remembered and seen God's warning and chosen mercy over their rage.

All right, we're gonna give you some of the sounds from the Middle East here in just a second.

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A historic day.

An incredible day.

One that many people did not think was possible.

And I mean, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to bring up questions about what comes after this.

And I think those are totally legitimate.

But the bottom line is the hostages that are alive are back.

This isn't something we have to predict anymore this isn't something we have to you know cast doubt on

worry about it's occurred the families are all over social media hugging their relatives that's actually happening today which is incredible after two years two years of just you know the the guy who famously we saw him in the digging you know digging his own grave like he's back

imagine that

I can't even imagine certainly over two years

you have to be resigned to the fact that you're never seeing them again.

If you're a family member, you're sitting there and you go on TV all the time and plead for them to come back and hope and pray and work and do everything you can.

But there has to be part of you, certainly, in dark moments, where you just realize

you're never going to see them again.

And then here we are.

This is happening.

Miracles obviously start from a higher place than Donald Trump, but he was used as a conduit here.

And I'm glad that this has occurred.

You know, it's amazing.

I'm watching Air Force One getting ready to take off from Tel Aviv because it's now heading over to Egypt,

which is about a 20-minute trip, I think.

It is,

this is leadership.

Remember everybody said, oh, we're going to be a laughing stock of the world.

We're just going to be a war all the time.

Look, this is leadership.

This is America and our president leading the world to peace.

I've I've never seen anything like this.

This is beyond what Ronald Reagan did with communism.

I really believe that.

This guy has solved eight wars.

Now, communism, well, I can't say communism affected more people than this did to some degree.

You know what I mean?

But this is

crazier.

This is 4,000 years.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's interesting.

That's an interesting, I'd have to put a little bit more thought into that if I was going to to rank them, but it's really, really important.

It's really important.

Yeah.

I mean, you could go either.

You could argue either way.

Sure.

But I think, like, you know,

you can go, I mean, there's a lot of stuff you can talk about there.

I think one of the things that's fascinating about this moment is Donald Trump loves this.

Like, this is

by far.

His favorite part of this job.

He's a deal maker.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's a deal maker.

If you like Donald Trump and you want to see Donald Trump at his happiest, watch this speech today.

He is so in his element.

He is so thrilled to be talking about this.

He's busting on the people in the Knesset.

He's, he's, you know, roasting his relatives.

He's just, he is thrilled and deserves this moment of adulation and credit.

Everyone's laughing at all of his jokes.

Everyone's clapping for everything he says.

It's because it's an incredible achievement.

It's a wonderful day, and we should be thankful.

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Quite an incredible day.

And, you know,

I would just like to hear from those people today that have been saying, you know, Donald Trump is going to get us in all kinds of wars and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

No, apparently not.

You know, the real problem is, is that people,

when George W.

Bush told me in the Oval Office back in 2007 or eight, he said, don't worry, Glenn, the next person that gets in here, no matter what party they're from, they're going to realize they're going to have to do pretty much the same thing because they'll have the same advisors and they'll know that their hands are really tied as president.

And that scared the hell out of me.

He was trying to make me feel better, but I didn't feel better.

Wait a minute, the president really doesn't have any power to do anything?

We're going to continue to go down this road, even though it doesn't work.

That's why when Obama got in, nothing really changed.

He didn't shut anything down or do anything big because he was going for the same advisors.

And so all these advisors that are like, you know, we've got 100 years of experience.

We've been working on these things and it's going to pass.

Donald Trump came in and said, I don't agree with any of this stuff.

We're going to try something different.

And so he got rid of those advisors.

And he's like, who'd you just marry?

Honey?

Yeah, okay.

Bring him over here.

We're going to send him to the Middle East.

I mean,

he just, he broke all of the rules.

And he's a negotiator.

And he's a business guy.

And he's a builder.

So he thinks differently.

And look at the difference.

I mean, if you want to look at

the way he has changed the world, he has greatly changed the world.

We're not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination, but he is greatly changing the world.

He is breaking everything that the State Department and the years of the guys who have been thinking exactly the same way, what they've been building, he's breaking all of that.

And he's like, no, we're going to build it a different way.

We're not going to be a global community where everybody is answering to, you know, the United Nations.

We're going to be our own states, and that's the way it should be.

Now, if you don't like that, if you want to be a global community, that's fine, but that doesn't mean we all go to war with each other, as you're seeing.

If you find a way for everybody to work together, if you find a way that where everybody wants to be successful and have some peace, now there are going to be some people like Iran.

I don't know what's going to happen with Iran, but I'm hoping that there is some sort of mutual agreement between the Arab states that, you know, if Iran starts something,

it's not going to just be, you know,

it's not just going to be Israel that has to respond or the United States.

It's time for the Middle East, now that they're together, to

take that on themselves if there is trouble there, because that one hasn't been solved yet.

But he reached out and said, look, Iran,

we don't have to be enemies.

Now is the time for you to come to the table as well.

It's so clear that this is how he actually sees the world.

He does see the world.

Peace through strength is something that he really believes in.

He talked about it quite a bit in the speech about how

this didn't happen because

he decided to let everyone have what they want or to be super nice to everyone.

This happened because they have really big weapons that are really powerful, that hit the targets they want to hit.

And many of them he shared, as he pointed out, shared with Israel,

many of which that they have themselves to use when needed.

And he didn't, that is the approach here.

This is not a,

it's so weird because I think the left and the media see Donald Trump as a guy who is either this maniacal hawk that is going to go just blow up everything all the time.

That's one of the worries that they said.

And we said at the time, none of his history points to this.

Nothing he talks about that.

Go back to when he was 20 years old, he talked about this stuff.

He hates war.

Yeah.

And I think some other establishment criticism comes to him because,

you know, you look at like what Russia did with Ukraine, right?

And you say, okay, well, Russia invaded Ukraine and there's a lot of people like on the hawkish right who would say, okay, like they're in the wrong here.

What are we going?

Why are we going to go and do anything with them?

And say that, you know, he's too weak on these issues.

He's constantly trying to give everyone what they want.

He's always negotiating.

And neither of those are really true.

There are elements of those.

Like Donald Trump will attack a country he believes is in the wrong if he needs to.

You've seen it with Solimani back in the day.

He'll do the things he believes he needs to do, but he's not ideologically committed to doing that all the time.

The same thing he's negotiating.

He's also limited in his scope.

Yeah, usually limited in his scope.

Same thing with,

but like not limited in his scope when it comes to ISIS.

No.

Right.

Like Like he came in and was like, he talked about that in the speech, too.

He's like, I talked to

General Raising Cain,

and everyone told me it was going to take four or five years.

He told me it would take four weeks, but we'd probably have time left over.

And he was right.

He did it his way.

He found a general who was on the ground who said, look, I don't want to talk ill about my superiors, but here's what I think we could do.

And he picked him and he said, well, do it your way because your way makes sense.

And then it was over in a month, right?

Incredible.

That is a totally different way of looking at these things.

And because he just doesn't have

that, he doesn't, he's not involved in that world where there's just calcification over ideas.

Like exactly what we talked about when it comes to George W.

Bush, right?

Like, you know, this is kind of where we are.

And the same advisors advise the same things.

And it doesn't always mean that it works out perfectly.

It doesn't always mean he's always right.

He is a guy, I think, with that type of stuff, at least, when he, when it does go down the wrong road, oftentimes he'll reconsider.

You know, I mean, I think that's what happened with Russia.

He went down that road with Russia.

He really, and again, he talked about this in the speech, believed he could solve that immediately.

He said it before the election.

He said we could get that done in a couple of days.

He said,

I called over and Witkoff was in there talking.

And it was 15 minutes in.

And I called him like, what's going?

Why is this taking so long?

And they're like, he's still in there.

And he talked to him for five hours and it didn't happen.

And he admitted it didn't happen.

And you saw the change that he had there where he was all of a sudden saying, well, you know what?

Maybe Russia isn't serious about this, and we should start doing more to put pressure on them in other ways.

But, like, that's oftentimes just mocked as failure, right?

He went in there with this big approach and it didn't work.

Well,

he's trying something else, he's trying things that he believes will end these conflicts, and that is consistent with who he's been for a very long time.

I mean, you can come up with criticisms for Donald Trump, but this stuff has been pretty successful.

The stuff that he's done, particularly in the Middle East, has been incredibly successful.

Name the president that has not moved us

closer to war or brought us into war in the last, you know, five where we've had troops on the ground.

We're sending troops everywhere.

Name the last president that didn't do that.

I mean, you know,

I guess you could say, you know, Joe Biden, who

withdrew a bunch of troops in Defkin.

That didn't work out for us.

It didn't work.

Get us just slaughtered.

It made everything worse.

Yeah.

No, you're right.

I mean,

it's not.

He has a priority for this not to occur.

It's very important to Donald Trump, I think, quite clearly.

And he believes he can get it done.

And in some circumstances, it's worked, which, by the way, nothing else we try typically works.

You know, sometimes war will end the thing you're dealing with at that given moment.

We have seen that happen, but oftentimes it does turn into something worse in the long term.

And to be clear here, you know, one of the problems that if we were going to poke holes in this at all as to what happens so far, there is always a completely ridiculous ratio of how many Palestinians get released compared to how many Israelis get released.

It's 20 to 2,000.

To 2,000.

It's 100 to 1 in this case.

And it's always 50, 100, 150 to 1.

It's always something like this.

And you look at the guys who are coming back from Israel and they're all healthy and well-fed, look like they've just been at a resort.

And then you look at the hostages coming back from Hamas and they just look horrible.

They look either bad to horrible.

And

the issue here is all of the people that were taken hostage by Hamas will return back to life in Israel, hopefully be able to adjust to a life with their families, going to church, living as they were, or at least as close as they can get to that.

It'd be weird if the Jews started going to church.

Well, you know, whatever.

I don't know if they're all Jews.

I mean,

there was people from other countries as well.

But

the opposite will happen likely with the 2,000 Palestinians.

Many of these were hardcore terrorists.

Many of them were real criminals.

Many of them were

either involved or

suspected to be involved heavily in the October 7th attacks.

A lot of these people do in the future.

There's a lot to come here.

So there's a difference, though.

They're releasing, many of them that are being released did not have charges against them.

They were scooped up and not charged with something.

So, you know, they were holding these to keep combatants off the battlefield, but they were not necessarily charged.

They didn't have them.

They were the ones on video murdering children.

Correct.

Right.

Like, it wasn't them.

Correct.

But again, some of them were suspected.

They believed they had planning,

you know, possibilities.

They were in groups with the people who were doing these things.

And there is certainly a risk, as we've seen after 9-11, that when you take terrorists and you put them in Guantanamo for a few months and then you release them back, they become the heads of ISIS.

Like this stuff does happen.

So there's a long road ahead.

This is not a

victory lap for a very small piece of this, but a very important piece of it.

If they can keep the peace between the Arab world, forget about Hamas.

You keep the peace and you hold together a coalition of the Arab world with Israel,

that's worth all of it.

Massively important.

Massive.

And while it might not necessarily solve Hamas or Hezbollah or any of these other groups,

if

we have a place where Israel and many of these Arab nations are in a good place together.

Trading with each other.

And maybe some of these countries are actually overseeing.

Gaza.

And they are the ones that need to come in and be the bad guys when Hamas does these things.

It's a totally different dynamic.

There's no way to turn against Israel if that situation is true, if that relationship can be maintained.

And that'll be difficult.

There will be times where that's going to be really difficult to maintain.

But again, it's a path.

It's like a possibility of success.

We were in a situation, I mean, as long as you've done the show together, Glenn, 100% of the time, I was convinced this was never going to occur, where there would even be a chance where Arab nations and Israel would be buddy-buddy, or at least something close to it.

I would say 99.9% of the time because the Arab Accords were so historic.

You're like, wait, what just happened?

Yeah, the Abraham Accords.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And of course, there's always the possibility of a miracle.

That's the only thing really I held out hope for.

This might be it manifesting itself.

And that's great.

Here's what Hillary Clinton said.

I really commend President Trump and his administration, as well as Arab leaders in the region, for making the commitment to a 20-point plan and seeing path forward for what's often called the day after.

It's going to take a lot of work.

It's going to take a lot of coordination.

But the U.S.

took advantage of an opening that was available, and we were able to be successful.

That's great.

Good for her.

Not what Biden said.

No, the Biden administration is like, Donald, what?

Who?

Doc?

Are you?

I don't know what you're talking about.

But congratulations, Hillary Clinton, for at least being honest, which

you know who's honest today.

If you're not saying, wow, good job, Donald Trump, well, you know, you're not an honest broker of anything.

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Yeah, before she got there.

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Hey, Glenn.

Hey, how are you?

Man, I'm doing great.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm good.

I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions.

First, any thoughts on the peace deal in

Israel and the Arab world today?

It's just remarkable.

I haven't seen anything like this before.

as you know, the Middle East is one of the most complicated areas in the entire world.

And to see President Trump be able to go in there, work with other countries across the entire region as well as over in Europe and other places like that to galvanize countries literally across the globe and say, this is what we have to do.

We have to have peace there.

We have to stop the shootings, stop the killing.

We have to release the hostages, all of that.

And to do that in such a short period of time and to see the effectuation of it begin overnight is just stunning.

And

so I would say so far, so good with the relief of the hostages.

The test will be tougher when we get to the next stage where Hamas actually has to

step down.

from running Gaza,

controlling Gaza, and we have to see them live up to that component of the peace deal.

If they're able to pull that off, and if international troops will be the ones who will be ensuring the safety of it, ensuring that it's not U.S.

international troops, but from other countries

that will be stabilizing Gaza as opposed to Hamas,

then it may be an extraordinarily valuable deal.

Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed on that.

I wanted to talk to you because Pritzker and the courts have just said to the National Guard, to the Texas National Guard, you can't do anything.

Now, last week, I think they said you couldn't deploy them there.

You did because of what the Constitution actually says.

But now you've got a hold on them protecting ICE.

What's the status on this?

All right, so let's go back to fundamentals here because what I have found is everybody in the country doesn't understand the fundamentals.

I'll rip through it real quick.

One is they are obviously the, quote, National Guard.

And the President has the authority under the Constitution, under federal statutes, to be able to call up the National Guard and to deploy them under certain circumstances, one of which is to deploy the National Guard to prevent interference with the execution of federal law.

And that's exactly what the President has done in Illinois, in Oregon,

in California, and places like that.

And as you kind of pointed out, and this is detailed, you've got to be kind of a lawyer to figure out what these courts said, but very importantly, the Federal Court of Appeals in California, the Federal Court of Appeals in Illinois, all said that the President is fully authorized to call up these National Guard for purposes that were articulated by the President of why they were needed.

What happened, and this actually occurred before the National Guard were even sent to Illinois, because the trial court judge there said the trial court wanted to hear evidence about whether what was actually going on the ground satisfied the criteria of preventing interference with execution of federal laws.

And so that's all

that's going to happen.

You've got to prove that that's exactly what they are for because if they do that, they will be allowed not only to be discharged there, which they are allowed by the courts to do, but they will also be able to to be there to carry out the function of protecting ICE as ICE is trying to perform its duty to enforce federal law.

Now, listen, Glenn, what we've all seen on TV screens across the entire country, the way that people in communities, it could be protesters, it could be assassinators in these communities across the country, are interfering.

with ICE performing their jobs.

And so this is fundamental.

And I know whether it be at these federal court of appeals or when it gets to the United States Supreme Court, President Trump is going to be judicially authorized to fully enforce Title 10 of the federal law to make sure that these National Guard troopers are going to be able to be deployed and protect ICE members who are coming under assault in states across the entire country.

He's not allowed to have them do police duties, though, right?

I mean, that's the difference,

right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so, and that's the deal, and that's one of the evidence issues that the trial court wants to hear.

So

the president doesn't have the authority to call up National Guard to act like police officers there.

But that's not what he's doing.

He's never even said he's trying to do that.

But, of course, that's the bogus arguments being made by Prisker.

and by people like Gavin Newsom.

And you know as well as I do, Prisker and Gavin Newsom,

they are sanctuary city governors and they are more than happy having chaos in their communities.

And the last thing they want to do is to push down that chaos and allow some National Guard soldier to come in and make the communities more safe.

And it's just disgusting that we have governors in this country who

actually promote crime and chaos in their own communities.

These are governors who are promoting, endangering federal officials who are trying to carry out the functions of their office.

And I'm telling you, Glenn, if any of these people, any of these ICE agents or any federal employees, if they are injured in any way whatsoever, then Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson of Chicago, they are an accomplice in the crime that would injure one of our National Guard or one of the ICE agents trying to carry out the functions of federal law.

Tell me why Donald Trump chose Texas, because I know he always does everything he does is for a reason.

Why did he choose the Texas National Guard?

President Trump knows that the Texas National Guard is the most elite National Guard that we have in the United States, whether it be serving on our homeland or serving on foreign lands.

He knows that they have the expertise of dealing with

civil riot control.

They have done that on the border in the harshest harshest of elements, in the toughest of times.

They have been deployed around the state of Texas by me to deal with situations like this where we needed the National Guard to have the back of our law enforcement officers during the George Floyd protest, during other protests.

And so

these are proven and tested National Guard.

who we have a very large number of them and he knew also that if we sent our guard there, we would still have plenty of guard thousands of them on the border as we do right now as well as plenty of other national guard to be able to to perform whatever other function uh that i as governor would need uh them to be able to provide and so uh this is just easy math for him uh and coming from a state uh that has the kind and quality and training of national guard that president trump respects

um the rules of engagement i've always concerned about the National Guard kind of just being sitting ducks.

They can't really do anything.

What are you going to do?

Shoot.

What are the rules of engagement?

Yes, it's very simple and great question.

But there are rules of engagement that our Guard have been very well trained on for literally years.

And then when they arrived in Illinois, they went back over the rules of engagement, and that is they don't go proactively and shoot somebody or anything like that.

Their mandate is to protect the ICE agents, but in protecting ICE agents and other federal employees,

if they come under assault, they have certain tactics and strategies that they can use to make sure that they're going to maintain safety around them.

Some easy examples.

And I haven't been told exactly what they are down there, but I'm going to tell you generally what they do.

They would have tear gas capabilities, flashbang capabilities, pepper ball capabilities,

less than lethal force capabilities to make sure that they're going to be able to maintain crowd control in ways that will protect the safety of the federal officials while at the very same time not doing any physical harm to anybody in the community who is threatening them.

But also, Glenn, remember this.

It was just a few weeks ago where, you know, guard needed to be there, but they were not there at the time of the shooting in Dallas, Texas, when there was an assassination attempt by a gunman trying to kill, murder

the

national

are you supposed to just stand back and say, yeah, have at it, take your best shot.

Of course not.

They would have been in charge of trying to eliminate that shooter before that shooter shot what turned out to be two illegal immigrants who were in detention.

You know, there's

that's the second incident here in Texas.

And I know the first one, the first one, I think everybody but one has been arrested.

And that was

quite the accomplishment on that.

Make sure you get everybody involved.

Let me switch to the border here real quick.

I read a story about how the drug cartels have, at least in Baja, have declared war on Americans.

Are we seeing anything,

any upswing in dangerous engagement from the drug cartels on our border?

Well, it depends on where you are, because the border runs from the Gulf of America to the Pacific coast.

And you were talking about in the California area.

And

we have not yet seen in Texas anything exactly like that.

We are prepared for it in Texas, which is why we still have thousands of National Guard and Texas Department of Public Safety officers on the border.

And it's also why we are working in a very close collaboration with the Trump administration to make sure that we are going to be able to push back on anything like this.

But I'll tell you about two things further in response to this.

One, remember,

Trump has publicly stated what he also privately stated, and that is he is looking to take out the heads of the cartels in Mexico.

And he has not backed off of that in any way whatsoever.

The other thing is that we all know that we need to be prepared

in every region of the border about a new form of engagement by the cartels, and that will be active drone warfare.

And I know in Texas, we're prepared for it, and we're gearing up.

The other thing, something that new that just came out over the weekend, but they've been working on it in a couple of weeks, do you remember back when Biden was president and I was doing everything I could to protect the border?

Yeah.

And I deployed those big orange buoys into the water, into the Rio Grande, that prevented people from across the border.

There was an announcement made by the Trump administration that they are putting down about 80 miles of those big orange buoys, especially in the Eagle Pass area, that would prevent people from being able to cross.

And they're looking at other spaces where they would be adding in the aggregate more than 100 miles of those buoys.

One thing about those buoys, they are fully effective at preventing people from crossing in those areas, but they're about, I don't know, about a tenth of the cost of a border wall.

And so it's a very effective tool for the federal government to continue to deny illegal entry.

But there's also this also, listen, we know the commitment of President Trump to make sure that we're going to have zero people crossing the border during his administration.

But what I told President Trump is, listen,

we want to work with you for the next three years to make sure that we stop the flow coming across the border, but we need to do it in a way so it's effective for more than just three years, for the next 30 or the next 30 years is what we need to do.

And those buoys on the border, the border wall that he's building, some other things they're doing in the state of Texas, is ensuring that what he has done during this term in presidency is going to have a lasting effect to deny illegal entry into the United States of America.

Governor Greg Abbott, I know you need to run, but I do want to congratulate you on what you've done with Epic City.

And, you know, you immediately sprung into action the minute we started hearing about these Muslim Sharia law cities possibly springing up.

And I want to thank you for that.

And we'll keep our eye on the Attorney General to make sure that he enforces those laws.

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Donald Trump has just arrived in Egypt for his summit on Gaza's future.

The plane just landed.

His car is now driving down one of the central avenues in Egypt to meet with the leaders of Egypt and sign the treaty.

It is a remarkable day.

I got an invitation over the weekend to be with the president on Tuesday.

That's tomorrow.

He's going to be back in Washington doing something entirely different.

I'm like, what?

I'm tired.

I'm tired just watching you.

I'm tired.

What are you doing?

He is an amazing man of energy.

Just incredible what he's doing.

But we'll see.

Now he's at the Middle East Peace Summit

following the release of all of the hostages from Hamas.

Just this today is remarkable.

Yeah, we don't know where it goes from here, but like this is something that I think we all consider to be really a remote possibility without real divine intervention.

Because, you know, Hamas,

if you think about their position here, they have now

put themselves in a place where whatever leverage they felt they had with hostages now is completely gone.

And, you know, the rest of this arrangement for them doesn't look all that positive.

It seems to allow them to potentially escape to a third party country and avoid the imminent death that they're facing.

But it does not allow them to reconstitute as a government, to rule this land at all, to govern this land at all, to be armed at all.

And there's a lot coming.

A lot coming.

That they're not, that they obviously would not like, but also now don't have any leverage with hostages to even negotiate.

Right.

And they don't have any place to go because the entire Middle East, except for Iran,

is not

happy with them.

No, that's true.

They don't really,

they're not going to get cover anymore from members of the Middle East.

Yeah, I mean,

part of the agreement seemed to hint to some path for them to be able to leave.

You know, you think about like when a dictator falls and they go to a third-party nation, it seems to indicate something like that.

That's, of course, very risky because they could start a new organization.

They can, you know, build back up and i'm sure i honestly some of these people i'm sure those people are going to attempt that one of the things i think is interesting though is these are not you know this is not the a team we're dealing with with hamas anymore this is not the b team or c or d we're like the you know l team i don't know we're way down the list because a lot of their leadership has been killed already so over and over and over again yeah so you don't know some of these people might be

They might have been involved in this.

They might have thought it was a good idea on October 7th.

They might be now thinking, hey, if I can get out of this without getting killed, this will be incredible.

Everybody I know is dead, right?

Everybody in my organization is dead.

Maybe we can get out of this.

So, you know, again, winning the war has a good path, help you to get a path to peace.

When you actually execute the war with intent, this stuff tends to happen.

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Remarkable president is,

you know, just landed in Egypt.

He was just in Jerusalem.

I mean, it is.

I find myself saying this every day.

Didn't expect this to happen.

Never expected this to happen.

Never seen this before.

We live, we are so blessed to live at these outrageous times.

I mean, honestly, think about,

you know, it's not that you want to live in times like this, but if you actually

face up to what we're dealing with,

what an honor to be selected to live at this time and then to know who you really are.

You know, you live in times not like this.

You're not thrown up against the wall.

You don't know.

You know,

you're not a defender of the faith.

You don't have to be a defender of the faith, you know,

because

you don't have anything to defend.

I mean, everybody's okay with it.

Everything's cool.

Look at what we're going through.

It's an amazing time to be alive.

And President Trump, I mean, say what you want about the guy, but boy, if he wasn't built for these times, you know, I've always said, ever since I was a kid, why don't we run this more like a business?

And here we have a business guy who is in, and look at the peace deals he's brokering.

It's incredible.

Can I give you a choose your own adventure here for a second?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Which one is the right take

for us to talk about,

for a conservative to feel today?

Number one,

the president deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

He is obviously the guy who achieved this, and only the dumb left-wing and the stupid, you know, Nobel committee that has nothing to do with actual peace wouldn't give it to him.

Number two,

we shouldn't want him to get the Nobel Peace Prize because these organizations are

an element of the past, and we should leave them behind and stop praising them or want their stupid awards.

We should want them to give it to some other crazy person that doesn't deserve it.

We should want the organization to go away.

We shouldn't kiss their ass and hope that he wins.

What's the right time?

I don't really care if he wins or not.

It is nice that they have to bow the knee.

You know, they have to be like, all right, I got to give a damn.

Because you know how much they don't want to do it.

So it's satisfying in that way.

But,

you know, who cares?

I mean, it lost all credibility.

You know him better than I do.

He cares.

He'd like to win this.

Yeah, I think so.

That's how he visited.

Yeah, you know, I saw an interview with him just recently.

And, you know, what are your goals?

What are your goals?

He said, well, my goal, you know, was to be president.

And what are your goals now?

You know,

what do you want to accomplish now?

I want to be a great president.

And so, you know, I think, you know, these are milestones that happen, you know,

and especially in his era, the Nobel Prize meant something.

Right.

You know, my era, it meant something.

Now,

it doesn't really mean anything at all.

But it's still a milestone.

And it is recognition of what he has done

that is, you know,

nobody thought was possible.

Nobody thought it was possible.

Yeah, I'm going to do a terrible job on my own.

Choose your own adventure to say that, like, I kind of want,

I think both of them are right.

Yeah, I do too.

You know, I mean, it's like, I really, I don't know.

I want him to win, but I don't care.

Yeah, I kind of want him to win because I want to just go through the cycle to see how people would react.

Like how people are reacting today.

Like, let's say you're on the Nobel Prize Committee and you've decided, you know, everyone, you know the talk.

Everyone's talking, hey, Donald Trump should get this.

And they even said, like, we don't give this award to these terrible people.

Like, they had some statement like that.

And so you're not giving it to Donald Trump under any circumstances in your own mind.

And then you decide instead, we're not giving it to Donald Trump.

We're going to give it to this Venezuelan woman.

And then she comes out and she's like, I want to dedicate this award to Donald Trump.

It immediately happens, which is great.

And by the way, again, another good example.

Is that one of the eight that he cites?

I don't remember.

But Venezuela, because he's taken a really strong stance on that, you know, the people who are fighting for freedom there see him in an incredibly positive light.

He's been, you know, dedicated to his favorite.

I'm anxious to see who he inspires, you know, who comes out of this in the next 20, 30 years, who is inspired by him?

And they go, you know what?

I learned a lot here.

And this is the way to deal with things because he's changing everything.

And,

you know, he is teaching people a lot.

Yeah.

A lot about courage,

you know, a lot about just suck it up, just do it.

It's funny because I was thinking about his, as I was talking to somebody this weekend about just

the presidency of Donald Trump, particularly the second term.

And I was thinking about how much has happened.

I mean, it's been, there's been so many things that have occurred.

You know, like nine months.

Yeah.

And that's where I lay it.

I was like, holy crap, we're not even a year into this.

I know.

And it's funny because I think the first term

of Trump was, like, there was a lot of good things.

There's some things I didn't like as much, you know, but there was, but there was a lot that happened then, too.

I think one of the reasons why Biden won in 2020 was because

some people looked at that and just said, oh, there's too much chaos.

There's too much stuff happening all the time.

There's a tweet every day and things are changing all the time.

This seems like the first term times 10.

But it's not meaning in chaotic.

It's not in the same sense.

It's just that how much is happening.

And, you know, you look back at this, and I think after the first term, there was a thought, and there was some reason to agree with this if you're looking back historically of like Trump coming in at a very unique time.

and winning a race that most people didn't think he could win, including me.

I didn't think he was going to beat Hillary in that election.

He takes the presidency.

He has four years.

They're like totally unique.

You know what I mean?

Like he's a totally different personality.

And then, you know, he doesn't win in 2020.

And I think

there's a thought maybe you look back at Trump historically as like, wow, that was a crazy thing that happened.

Right.

Like, you know what I mean?

Here's a guy who came in and he was a celebrity and he just won and he had a term and a lot of stuff happened and wow.

I don't think there's any way just after nine months of the second term that you don't look back at Trump as one of the most significant presidents

of all time.

And you might not like,

you might say that in a negative way.

I mean, if you're on the left, you might look at this and say,

it was a terrible outcome.

We didn't like a lot of the things that happened in that period.

But like, the same way I would look at Barack Obama and say, very significant president in a bad way for me.

I think you have to look at Trump and you have to say it is even more.

important.

I would say Barack Obama was like Woodrow Wilson.

Nobody really knew all of the things that he did.

Yeah.

I think Donald Trump is now at least FDR.

That's incredible.

FDR, again, I look at him as a massively negative influence in almost every way.

20 years.

He's done this in nine months.

I mean, because he's

changed one of the two parties in focus.

You know, some of the things are the same, but like there's a real change in the right.

I don't think anyone would argue that.

In fact, Trump would brag about that.

Like he'd say, this is what I wanted to do.

And just that is a really significant thing to happen.

And I don't think it had happened fully at the end of his first term, especially when he wasn't able to do two in a row.

Coming back for this next term, after everything that happened, and then him adding on to this with all of this stuff here in just the first nine months.

God knows what's happening in the next three years.

You know, the significance of this presidency is, I mean, it's changed the country, changed the world.

Yep.

Let me tell you something else that's changed.

Let me start with this.

Cut five here.

Here are the

new talking points for the media on Antifa.

Listen to this.

There's no Antifa.

This isn't an entirely imaginary organization.

There is not an Antifa.

Like, I don't even know what Antifa is.

There is no group.

it's not even like far-right groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers compared to right-wing extremists Antifa linked violence is rare and limited it isn't an organization it is a it is a in in many ways mythology it's not like the proud boys or the oath keepers you know sort of uh defined terrorist organizations with leadership uh that let that you know leads violence it's not a highly organized movement it's a moniker it's a single it's not a unified group like the proud boys are things Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.

It's all in this guise of going after Antifa, which is nothing.

There's no organization called Antifa.

Nobody's a member of Antifa because it doesn't exist.

They are just declaring into existence something that doesn't exist.

There is no Antifa organization, so maybe that's good for social media,

but it really is non-existent.

They exist on the internet and chat rooms and in 4chan and Discord and places like that where they run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like that.

But none of them are called Antifa.

What?

I don't even know what they're talking about.

I mean, you want to talk about living in a different world?

But that's what's going around.

Now, let me just tell you this.

Last week, I did a TV show that apparently got the FBI's attention.

The topic was

initial investigation, a jumping off point, shattering the myth that NTFA just, you know,

it's just leaderless and decentralized.

We thought, no, it's really not.

So we dove in headfirst and we analyzed the NTFA network and we went from the street thugs to the support groups eventually to the funding.

Okay.

To say the FBI was interested in this might be an understatement.

Let's just say the FBI is turning over every single stone.

It is so clear to me that they are exploring all angles of this, and they are talking to anyone and everyone that can give them any kind of information.

How do I know?

Saturday, I get a phone call.

The director would like to send over some agents to speak to you, Glenn.

And I'm like, the direct

FBI agents?

Yes, you said some things that they need to talk to you about.

And I'm like, well, good things are bad.

You know, they'll be over.

So they sat in my living room.

Three agents sat in my living room on Saturday afternoon for almost two hours.

And I immediately called Jason.

I'm like, Jason, you're the researcher.

It's your fault.

I'm going to throw you under the bus.

You better get your butt over here.

So Jason was there and my wife and Jason and I sat there and it was surreal at one point.

I talked to him for about 15 minutes just going over the Tides Foundation and saying, if you understand Tides, you'll understand how difficult your job is going to be.

And this is information that I first gave on Fox years ago.

Let me just say this.

Finally, we have an administration and an FBI director that is willing to go in deep, not surface, but deep.

I can only imagine what we could have avoided if anyone in an administration would have done this in 2011.

But if I were in that imaginary group of Antifa, which by the way, has imaginary leaders leaving the country to go maybe to imaginary countries outside of the U.S.

right now, I would be very concerned.

If I were part of anything that was sending money their way or assistance their way, I don't know.

I might be a little concerned because the FBI is dead ass serious.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Donald Trump, Cash Patel, and all of the agents at the FBI.

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You know, Stu and I were just talking about how Antifa doesn't exist.

And, you know, that's like saying,

honestly, it's like saying Al-Qaeda doesn't exist.

Well, you're right.

There is no, you know, 501 Broadway, you know, where you go to Al-Qaeda's office.

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But it does exist.

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while they may not, they may not take their direction from the same person at the office.

I don't know.

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They exist.

They exist.

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everywhere.

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You may have seen him a million times on Fox News.

He was a foreign correspondent from 2011, I think, until about 20.

He's now the host of On Balance, the

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But there's so much you don't know about this guy that is

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great to have you on.

How are you, sir?

Pleasure to be with you, Glenn.

I remember when you and I worked together at Fox.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

First, I want to start before I get into your story, because your story is so great.

Before we get into that, tell me your analysis, because you were a foreign correspondent based in Jerusalem forever.

What is your take on what's happening right now over in Egypt and

also in Israel?

That we don't understand right now, and that's fine fine in real time, how historic and seismic the shift in the Middle East is right now.

Because

Trump turned 50 years of conventional wisdom on its head.

Jared Kushner understood and explained to Trump that the root of all the problems in the Middle East is not the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

It is Iran.

And I think what we saw over the past eight months, and to be fair over Trump's first term, but it culminated in the past eight months, is the isolation and degradation of both Iran's ability to act militarily on its own and its proxies, and thus has allowed a total sea change in the power dynamic of the Middle East away from Iran and towards the Gulf countries and towards Israel.

So that has totally changed

everything.

And we're seeing, I think, the beginning of it, not the end of how much is going to change in the Middle East for the good.

What does it mean?

What does today mean in five years or 10 years?

Look, the one thing I learned about being in the Middle East is if you want to predict the future in the Middle East, okay,

you must be a prophet himself.

You will be proven a fool.

And here's why, is because

things change.

If two years ago I had told you after October 7th, Hezbollah and Hamas would be destroyed, Iran's nuclear program would be in ashes, but the real threat, both in Europe and in the United States, would be this

wild rise of anti-Semitism and radical Islam terror now calling for the death of Jews and attacks on Jews around the world.

You would have called me crazy because everybody would have said, oh, you know, everybody's going to rally around Israel.

It's the exact opposite of what has happened.

So I can't predict the future, but what I can say is that for the first time, I think, since the Iranian Revolution, 1979, there is a realization of where the real evil in the Middle East is and a willingness by the United States to confront it honestly.

There are people on the right.

There are people on the right, Leland, now, that do not recognize Hamas as evil.

They are so

down this rabbit hole of the Jews controlling the world and Donald Trump and, you know, all of this stuff that

they they don't I don't think they actually see the the evil in the middle in the Middle East they see it coming from Israel it's it's bizarre and I'm trying to get my arms around it to understand it and understand where it's coming from but

have you noticed it in the right

and what what is the solution here

well I think the solution, Glenn, is exactly what you're doing, which is calling it out for what it is, which is it's not some new age critical way of thinking.

It's rank, anti-Semitism, and Jew hatred.

There's a difference.

You would agree with me that you can dislike what Israel, how Israel fought the war.

You can say, I don't want to fight their wars.

I don't want anything to do with it.

And I disagree with them.

That's different than the message of, I'm for Hamas, or Israel has to be, you know, destroyed because they're just

um the source of all the problems in the world

yeah and i'll go one step further it's different than saying

hamas is anything other than an evil terror organization um

there is good

and evil in in the world yes there is

there is a difference between the two and i i don't necessarily like the term moral clarity but i don't have a better one um for what is required in these situations.

And this sort of Hamas-adjacent talking points or agreeing with these talking points, it's no different than Mamdami,

who sort of, it's like, well, Hamas may be bad, but they have legitimate grievances.

No, they don't.

And I'm sorry,

once you start raping and pillaging and waging war against civilians, I don't care what your grievances are.

You must be destroyed.

And then we can deal with whatever the other issues are later.

So So what do you think happens to this Palestinian movement here in America now that this is over?

I don't know, but it scares me, number one.

And I think number two,

what we've seen is it's not really a Palestinian movement.

It was an anti-Jew movement.

It was the sort of graph on of BLI,

of the neo-Marxist oppressed oppressor worldview.

that just grafted on to the pro-Palestinian movement.

But at their core, they're neo-Marxist anti-Semites.

And we know that because now that there is a peace deal in Gaza, okay, and ceasefire, and if anything, it's going to help the Gazan people who they said were starving and so on, you know, terribly oppressed.

Well, they're not anymore.

But yet these people are still marching around calling for the death of Jews, right?

You know, when we knew a peace deal was happening, and on October 7th, there were thousands in the streets of New York.

saying we needed another October 7th, this one even stronger.

So that's who we're dealing with.

And I appreciate you calling it out from the right because I think there is an element of the right.

But thank God there are people like you, Glenn, who on the right are saying this is crazy and this is wrong and this is despicable.

That doesn't happen on the left.

You've got Kathy Hochul endorsing Mamdami in New York City.

That's the governor of the second or third largest state in the country endorsing a guy who is Hamas adjacent.

That doesn't happen in the Republican Party or on the right.

Can it, though?

I mean, on the left, can it?

I mean, they have let this go for so long that it is really powerful.

And those are the kinds of people that do kill people.

And so

it is so empowered on the left.

Can the politician expect to live

if they go against this?

Well, I think, Lennon, it requires politicians with actual moral courage.

And people can take from that what they will.

But

if you're more concerned, if you're so concerned about your own political future, as so many on the left are, that you are unwilling to

name, shame, call out, whatever you want to use the term as, people who are Hamas adjacent and those who endorse people who are Hamas adjacent, that pretty much says everything about who you are and what you care about.

I'm not sure it's just about your career politically, though, anymore.

I think we're, you know, we've entered a, a, you know this, we've turned a page and the violence is real now.

And there are people that are unhinged that will

take you out.

They will take you out.

I think that's very true.

And I think where we are seeing the most of that language is from the left, but that is a different discussion.

Yeah.

Let me take a one minute break because

I don't want to interrupt you when you start

on your story

because I don't think people understand what you've gone through to get where you are.

It is remarkable.

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Leland has a new book out that is called Born Lucky.

And you wouldn't think that when you actually hear his story.

And I didn't know this about you, Leland, at all.

And you are

an amazing success story.

Well,

go ahead no no i was just gonna say thank you um you know i think what you're talking about is the fact that when i was five years old i was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism um and born lucky is the story of my dad adapting me to the world rather than the world to me and the reason you know it was debuted on the new york times bestseller list at number four and we've sold out three times on amazon back in stock now is not because of me um you know glenn i'm a television anchor but i'm not that narcissistic to think it's about me.

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So when you were in fourth grade, you did an IQ test for the school, and your spread was 68 points.

You were borderline retarded on the low end when it was your verbal test, but nonverbal, you were in the genius category.

That's phenomenal.

Right.

Well,

now, my wife would tell me I'm probably still borderline many things

right now.

But

so you picked up on this moment in the book where my parents are told they need to get me evaluated, which is what no parent wants to hear, right?

And I was having terrible issues in school.

I never got invited to a birthday party or anything like that.

But if a kid touched me in line, I would turn around and hit him.

You know, kids would make jokes and I would try to be serious.

I would run into kids on the playground.

It just, nothing worked.

And had really terrible sensory issues.

You know,

I had my socks on in a way I didn't like or a jacket or anything like that.

I would completely melt down.

And then obviously what was all these learning disabilities.

So the parents take me to this medical office building for all this testing, linoleum floors,

bad magazines, old coffee, whatever.

They wait for two hours.

They're terrified.

I'm their son, who's that my sister at the time was one or two years old.

So they bring me back from all the testing and they say to my parents, we really don't understand what's going on inside his head.

You know, severe learning disabilities, terrible behavioral problems, awful sensory issues, all the things of what we now know to be autism.

And my dad said, what do we do?

And the woman said, there's not much.

And he said, is there anything we can do?

And she said, generally not.

And that began my dad's quest

to adapt me to the world and to find things that I could have self-esteem in and to help me earn self-esteem rather than given.

So I wasn't going to be good at school, wasn't going to have friends, wasn't going to be good at athletics, but he started me at that age a little bit earlier, actually, doing 200 push-ups a day, five days a week.

Hard work, effort equals achievement.

It's something you can take pride in.

Your character was a huge part of his lessons.

Something you can take pride in.

And that was this process.

And you write in the book about the push-ups.

It was also so your dad knew you were going to need to protect yourself, right?

Yeah.

No, look, my sister, who plays a really important role in this book, and I think one of the things that people don't understand, and so many families are suffering silently right now and feel alone with their kid who's having a hard time, doesn't matter what the issue is, is how much the siblings are affected.

I mean, my sister's a PhD in math and professor at MIT and Harvard and, you know, unbelievable in every way.

But, you know, her first memories of me, and I didn't know this until we interviewed her for Born Lucky,

is she was in kindergarten, I was in fifth grade, and I would come from my classroom downstairs to her classroom, pick her up, and then we would walk home.

It's about a quarter mile, and we would get to the back of the school where the PE fields were to the woods, which led to our house.

And as we walked into the woods, Liberty said, The first memory of my brother ever was every day when he got to the woods, he would start crying.

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issues that came not only from the kids, but from the teachers as I grew up, because my, you know, my dad never told anybody about this diagnosis.

No teachers, no counselors, nothing.

Wow.

And

so take me through some of the things that your dad

did because

I'm impressed with you and what you've accomplished, but your father is remarkable.

How did he come up with the things that he did?

Because you are

more than fully functional in today's society.

You're a huge success.

What did he do to get you there?

Well, that's a great question.

I would just tell you, and I'll give you a story a little later, that I still deal with this every day.

You know, autism is not something they're ever cured of.

This is a daily, almost hourly discipline of seeing the world as others see them, as my dad taught me to interact and understand the social fabric.

But, you know, one thing he did, he knew I wasn't going to have any friends.

So as he said, I thought maybe I could be your friend.

So starting at five or six, he and I spent hundreds of hours together every month.

I mean, thousands of hours together.

And he would take me to lunches with his friends.

And I would have loved to have gone to a lunch like with Mr.

Beck, right?

Because I was a mini me to my dad.

He talked to me about politics and news and events and on and on.

And we would get to lunch and you would be talking about, you know, your family or whatever you were doing that weekend or whatever.

And I would interrupt like

a thousand questions a minute.

Where, you know, how do you pick your topics?

How do you do your monologue?

Where do you get your advertisers from?

How much do you charge for ads?

On and on and on.

And my dad then would never say anything publicly to me, but he would tap his watch.

And that was my cue to stop talking, number one, but number two, to kind of bookmark that, right?

And so now we're driving home in the car.

And he says, okay, Lucky, you know, when Mr.

Beck was talking about his weekend plans or his lunch with, you know, whoever or whatever it was, and you interrupted and asked about his commercials,

why did you think Mr.

Beck wanted to talk about commercials at that moment?

Well, gee, dad, I don't know.

I thought it was interesting.

Okay.

Well, what could we have talked about that Mr.

Beck would have found interesting?

That was, you know, that was what he was talking about.

How do you connect with him?

And that was the

basis of granularly teaching me the social and emotional connections of everyday life.

And Born Lucky is that story of how my dad

made me understand that he loved me, but that, boy, there was so much work I had to do to fit in in the world.

At one point,

You know, there was a kid, you write in the book, a kid in middle school who kept pushing me both figuratively, literally, teachers wouldn't do anything, came home, told my dad what the kids had done, blah, blah, blah.

I finally asked, can I hit him yet?

Right.

Tell that story.

So you have to understand that the school situation that I was in.

I've been pulled out of two or three schools before I started in seventh grade.

It was a seventh through 12th grade school.

And two weeks into school, the principal calls my parents in.

So my parents think they're coming in for like a normal, like, hey, how's two weeks going into school?

And they're sitting there, and

the

principal sits my parents down in the little, you know, office,

looks across the desk at them and says, everybody at this school thinks lucky is really weird.

So that's arrow number one through my parents' heart.

And then she follows up, and I do too.

So I had no protection.

Right.

There was an eighth-grade art teacher who didn't think I was going to become Picasso and said in front of the entire class, Hey, Vitter, if my dog was ugly as you, I would shave its bleep and make it walk backwards.

So that was the environment I lived in every day.

But there was this kid, and he kept malving off.

And my dad had turned me into a pretty hefty little fellow.

I was fat and kind of chunky and awkward, but I was pretty strong.

And, you know, my dad had said, you know, the way you deal with bullies, you eventually just hit him in the nose.

Great.

And I didn't.

I

slammed his head down on the desk, but it was the beginning of me starting to fight back.

And I think Born Lucky people will see

how fighting back effectively.

That was the last time you had to do that, correct?

It was the last time I was allowed to.

Okay.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

Allie Bastucci had her women's conference this weekend, and it was fabulous.

There's 6,000 women,

you know,

in a very large arena.

And it was just so great.

So great.

And she's also on the

surrounded, you know, Jubilee Surrounded.

Oh,

any desire to do that, you know, that where

they put you in a room with all these people who disagree with you, and they surround you, and then one comes up to the table, and then somebody else comes up to the table, and you just have to keep going.

I've seen the clips of this, uh, and it is, it's interesting.

Allie just did this one, and she did a very good job.

And I've seen some other clips where other conservatives have done good jobs on it.

But, like, Glenn, when I say to you that not only do I not want to do it, I really have a tough time even watching

a clip of it.

Thank you.

It was just me.

Hey, I think it's because with me.

It's a brilliant idea.

I grew up in an alcoholic family

where I and I was the one that would always try to make a joke so I could break the tension in the family, you know?

And my gosh, I just, I hate, it's so strange that I do this for a living because I hate conflict.

I hate it.

I can't make it through an episode.

I can't eat.

I don't know what it is.

It makes the whole setup makes me uncomfortable to watch.

And I don't, you know, some of the episodes, like the one I saw, I did see a clip of Allie's and she was, she did a great job, but she was up talking to someone who was making a,

in my view, very wrong argument about abortion, but also very

civil.

And it seemed like someone who had some thoughts on the issue that were relatively well thought out, even though I thought they were wrong.

And that was a little bit better.

Some of the other ones I've seen have just been like, hey, here's a white supremacist.

It's like, you're like, I don't even know what I would get out of that.

But like, you're, there's something about the setup that is, it makes me very uncomfortable to watch.

I don't like confrontation.

It might be that.

I don't know.

Let me go to, you avoid that too.

You avoid confrontation.

We both do.

I don't.

I mean,

I try not to.

I don't.

Here's what you're talking about: that

alley

on surrounded about abortion.

My concern about the way that you present the abortion issue

is

you have claimed in the past that the liberal pro-choice position is that we don't give the whole truth about the abortion issue.

You liken it

as violent.

You've described it here as killing abortion is violent and painful.

Yes, for the child, absolutely.

My problem, my concern is that you are doing the same thing by not telling women the truth.

That when the majority of abortions happen, which is in the first six weeks of pregnancy, that fetus has not developed pain receptors.

That doesn't happen till maybe at the earliest 10 weeks, Ali.

So are you saying that murder

to 24 weeks is killing only wrong if someone can feel pain?

It's wrong for you to characterize it as violent.

It's painful when it's not.

It is violent.

Of course it's violent.

Even when you take the abortion pill, you are starving that human being.

If you want to call him or her a zygote or a fetus, that's all fine.

Those are all stages of development that all of us went through, that all children go through.

It is still the killing of a human being.

And when you take the abortion pill, the two-part abortion pill, you are starving that human being of the nutrients that he or she needs to survive.

And that is violent.

That they can't feel it.

Are you saying there are a lot of people who are murdered who can't feel it?

Are you saying that that murder is justified because they can't feel it?

No, we're talking about it.

We're not talking about something else we're talking about abortion but i'm trying to understand your logic you are saying that abortion is okay because babies don't feel it so i'm asking you is killing another innocent person when they don't feel it is that justified abortion is health care for women who need it who have unique

case is killing an inner

girls who have been raped who have experienced incest allie that's less than one percent of all abortions can we agree so mostly if i said to you

if i

violence,

if I said to you, okay, this is not the clip I saw, we will only allow, which this is not my position, but if I said we will only allow abortion in those 1% of cases in which it's rape or incest, would you agree with me to ban the rest of abortions?

99%

of abortion health care to women is 100% harmful to the woman who absolutely

killing an innocent person is not health care.

Can you tell me another situation in which killing a person intentionally is crazy?

All right, listen to this one.

Listen to this one.

This is Allie Unsurrounded,

surrounded by Christians on LGBTQ.

Listen to that.

So I'm a pastor of a church that is growing and not just with straight individuals, not just with people that look like me, but queer individuals that have some of the greatest fruit.

of the spirit that I've ever seen.

Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control, all of those things.

First, I just would love to hear your thought on how someone so sinful could produce such wonderful fruit.

But I'm really happy to talk about this up, but I just want to hear that because you've given really interesting and good arguments, but that's one that I have a hard time reconciling.

Well, all of us sin and all of us struggle with sin.

And I've met lots of people from all different walks of life that are joyful and kind.

And God gives us what we call the gift of common grace, that there are people who are not Christians, who might exude some of the characteristics that we want to embody as Christians.

But that doesn't mean that everything they do or everything they believe or everything they say is in alignment with scripture.

And so that's what I would say there.

I have no doubt that the people that you know who identify as LGBTQ are also really kind and really patient and really joyful and might have characteristics that we all want to emulate.

But that doesn't mean that every part of their life is in alignment with what we see God say in his word.

And because of that, they wouldn't inherit the kingdom of heaven like pretty much everyone is.

All of us, if we don't pick up our cross and follow Christ, by the grace of Christ, by the way, it's not our own merit.

None of us bring

nothing that we could do could ever deserve salvation.

God gives it to us in Christ.

But because of that grace, because of that love that he has given us, all of us are told to deny sin.

All of us are told to repent.

And so I think when we tell someone who says, you know what, this is how I identify, it's not in alignment with what God calls good and holy, that we are actually burdening them with more sin.

Whereas we all need to be free of our slavery to sin.

She's so happy.

Yeah, well, that's the right approach.

She's so happy in those moments.

And the questions were, I mean, again, like the first guy made a lot of bad points.

And when he was called on the bad points, just stopped answering them and went down other roads.

That's what frustrated me about that show.

That's what I see a lot on that.

Again, it's a brilliant idea, and it's huge.

It's a huge podcast.

People really like it.

And she did a great job there.

The clip that I saw was a very calm guy, then they went back and forth very calmly.

That one was as well, I thought.

There's some good moments on it, but you feel the same way I do about it.

I just can't, I don't know.

So you know what the tip-off was on the first guy?

And if you were watching Blaze TV, you saw it.

His hands were shaking.

The whole time his hands were shaking.

And that's not from nerves.

That's from, I think it's from anger.

I think it's from anger.

You're trying to withhold yourself.

Yes, and your anger from anger.

Because I've been, were you in the meeting with the communist, the very, very, very famous writer from Hollywood, comedic writer.

You know who he is,

written some of the best sitcoms in the country.

Yes.

Were you in that meeting with him?

Yeah.

And remember, he came in and his hands were shaking.

And he's like, I hate you.

I hate everything about you.

And I'm not going to fall for your traps.

He's like, everybody who meets you, they end up saying, you're really likable and you're a nice guy, but I know it.

I'm not falling for your traps.

This was the beginning of a business movie.

And he was just shaking.

He was so angry.

And I said,

we can't have a meeting with, we can't.

You got to get it off your chest.

And so he went on for 20 minutes and just went on.

And I just sat there and listened to him.

And okay, all right.

And anyway, and then he said, okay, we can do our meeting now.

And I'm like, nah, I don't think so.

It's not all out.

And then he went for another 20 minutes.

We were 45 minutes into this meeting before, and I only had 15 minutes left.

But we've ridden each other since.

Tom Road.

He fell for

you tricked him.

No, but I mean,

we're not buddies, but we're not enemies.

And when I saw that, I saw that guy's hands shaking, and you could see there's so much rage inside.

I guess that's one of the things I can't handle is the rage that is in people now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think you have to be really mentally prepared and be a certain type of person.

I think there's different roles for different people within.

Yeah, that's not my role.

And like, that's, that's Allie's role.

She's really good at that type of thing.

It was Charlie's role.

Charlie Kirk was.

Charlie groomed her on that.

I mean, Charlie really.

They worked together.

I know she tweeted some of their conversations about preparing for this particular thing.

You know, he was really good at that.

But that's not everybody.

You know, you have to have different, there's different roles for different people.

And I think sometimes with that stuff, I can't, it's not the type of

content I want.

Like, I just, I don't, I don't know.

I don't, I get more out of reading the best argument from some really smart person on one side and the best argument from some really person on one side.

I'm just reading people who I firmly disagree with.

You know what I mean?

I love reading the other side and really reading it.

Yeah.

Because there's no rage.

There's no, it's just, I mean, if it's an honest argument.

Yeah.

I love that.

Well, because there's something about that format, and it's the same thing with presidential debates, frankly, that boils down the policy and

structural arguments that are going on into a parlor trick of who can come up, who can access that information at the exact right time and express it the best way.

That doesn't mean that they'll do it.

It doesn't mean they'll be the best president.

If Barack Obama, you know, beats up on, you know, whatever, you know, I can barely remember John McCain as a candidate.

It doesn't mean that he's a better president.

It was just that like he might be a better debater or he might just be better at accessing that information in that moment or coming up with, it's more of a, you see how good J.D.

Vance is at it.

He would be incredibly frustrating to me if I were a liberal because he's so good at finding all of the good arguments in quick moments and saying them calmly and effectively.

And like, you might say, well, nope, that's the wrong policy.

It's the wrong thing for the country.

But it doesn't matter in those moments because that format delivers not necessarily what is the best policy or best argument, but who's best at that thing?

Who's best at the debate?

Who's best at it?

Allie, you know, I think wins all those arguments on its, on on its merit, but she's also very, very good at maintaining the proper tone and accessing that information and delivering it in the proper way.

She's good at both of those things.

No, no, she doesn't.

No, she's great.

No, no, she doesn't.

I don't want to do that.

So she's a softy.

Although she's not.

No, yeah, she's.

She appears to be a softy.

She scares me.

She scares me.

If you're on the wrong concept, she knows that is.

She can pick you apart.

And that's great.

It's great.

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Watching what is going on at the Mideast Peace Summit right now,

all the world leaders are coming up to Donald Trump one at a time and getting their picture taken with him.

It is bizarre.

I've never seen anything like this again.

Usually, you know, all the leaders get together and take one big photo, but they're coming up one by one and greeting him and talking to him and then getting their picture taken.

It's remarkable.

Today has been a remarkable day.

All 20 living hostages have been returned.

The hostage crisis is now over.

It's over.

And he was in Jerusalem today in Tel Aviv, and then he got back on the plane and flew to Egypt.

And now he's in Egypt meeting with all of the leaders, except for, you know, I don't think Syria is there, and I don't think Iran is there.

Obviously, Iran's not there.

But Egypt,

Bahrain,

you know, Saudi Arabia.

All of these, Turkey, all of these countries are together working on a peace deal that is just epic, just epic.

And I, you know, it's his business savvy that

is the difference here.

He knows how to make a deal.

And his objective, I think maybe like, unlike other presidents, some people wanted a two-state solution.

Some people wanted the Jews to win, the Palestinians to win, whatever.

Trump just wants peace.

Trump is like, look, we are all better off if we're not fighting.

And so why don't we come up with some peace deals so we can have peace in the region and let's just keep working it until we get to solutions that everybody's happy with, which is remarkable.

Remarkable.

Yeah, and, you know,

it's a tough process.

The whole thing

feels like pie in the sky at some level, right?

There's so much still more to come.

But what's, I think, fascinating about this quickly is just that this is done.

This part of it is done.

The hostages are back.

They're not going to be returned.

There's not like, no one's going to come over.

Hey, by the way, the peace talks broke down.

You got to come back to Gaza.

None of that's happening.

This part is over.

And it was the biggest part we talked about and massively crucial.

And no matter what comes forward from here, at least these families have their family member back home.

And I think for the first time, the Middle East is on the same page that they know who the enemy is.

And the enemy is not Israel.

It is Iran.

And because they've been saying that for

easy easy a decade,

kind of openly,

but for decades behind the scene.

You know, we knew who the real trouble was in the Middle East.

And

the Arabs just didn't want to fight with other Arabs.

They were just like, leave it alone, leave it alone, leave it alone.

They realized they can't leave it alone because it's becoming so toxic to everything.

And that's what he brought together.

That's how he's cobbled this coalition together.

And I pray that

it lasts.

I mean, at least

as long as the Lord will let it last.

I mean, we know how it ends in the end, but please let it last for a while.

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