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We have some sad news.

Dolly Parton's sister has asked the world to pray for the country star.

She has canceled all of her concerts and her appearances, and apparently she is suffering from health challenges.

We don't know exactly what it is, but I mean, Dolly Parton, how can you possibly say anything bad about Dolly Parton?

Dolly Parton is one of those just icons of America that I think universally everybody loves, even if you don't like country music.

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There's a couple of other things that I want to talk to you about today.

I want to talk to you about gold.

I want to talk to you about what, by the way, it's

$4,000 an ounce.

That should be very concerning.

We'll talk about that.

I also want to talk to you about the Hamas

flags that were flying in New York City yesterday.

Not just the Hamas flag,

but also the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

That flag actually says glory to our martyrs.

So Mom Dani had another rally.

What's the

problem with that?

He's right for

the premiere.

I know.

They are now,

they were talking yesterday about the protesters said they were acting from the belly of the beast.

Remember, we're the great Satan.

Israel's a little Satan.

This is Islamic Jihad.

And we now have Americans engaging in standing up and waving Islamic jihad flags.

Look at the size of this crowd in New York.

I will never look at the Palestinian flag again the same way after

seeing Dinesh D'Souza's

new movie about the, what is it, the mystery of the dragon or something.

Prophecy.

Yeah, the prophecy of the dragon.

And

it comes from the book of Revelation.

And it's the white horse, the red horse, the black horse, the green horse, all the cuddlers of the Palestinian flag.

And there are so many different things in in the Bible.

The Bible actually uses the word Hamas.

Look it up.

It's crazy.

It uses the word Hamas as destruction and death.

And

Gaza is all over in the Bible, too.

But I don't know.

But anyway, so how do you feel about the people on the streets?

If we were truly living in a dictatorship,

If we were living in a country where we had a dictator who would just not allow anybody to say anything, we wouldn't be talking about Jimmy Kimmel.

We would be talking about the rounding up of people who are carrying Islamic terrorist flags and shouting slogans for Islamic jihad in our own country.

That's what a dictator would do.

He would stop that speech.

Am I wrong?

I mean, what's more dangerous?

Jimmy Kimmel?

What's more un-American?

Jimmy Kimmel or Islamic jihad?

You're calling for the death of Jews.

I mean, that is so unbelievably un-American.

But just like we did in the 1930s, we, you know,

we let the Nazis walk in the streets, you know, in the 1930s.

And they held a big rally in Madison Square Garden.

If you've never seen it,

it's the American Boond Movement, B-U-N-D.

It is frightening.

Nazis were everywhere,

especially in the German communities of the Northeast.

And

they held rallies.

They, you know, imaged George Washington next to Adolf Hitler.

It was crazy stuff.

Crazy.

Well, we learned.

We learned what Nazis were, and those Nazis went away.

This,

I hope this goes away.

You know, at least from the stupid people that just don't know what they're doing.

Oh, I'm just marching, you know, because the Palestinians are, you know, oppressed.

Can you do a little more thought, put a little more thought into this at all?

Who are you standing with?

The reason why I bring this up today is not only...

Not only was it,

what did they call this yesterday?

The

New York flood.

I can't remember.

I can't remember exactly what they called it.

I just saw it.

Glory to our martyrs, blah, blah, blah.

They had called to flood New York City.

That's what it was.

This protest, they said flood New York City.

Well, that is...

an exact reference to the Operation Al-Axa flood, which is what that operation was on October 7th, a flood.

They called it a flood.

Again, book of Revelation, the dragon unleashes a flood.

I personally like to know who these people are.

I personally like to be able to say, okay, do you know who you're standing with?

Do you know who's supporting you?

Do you know who's funding all of this?

And I like to make the case.

And I don't want to ever kick these people off of the streets.

You have a right.

But I thought we lived in a dictatorship and we didn't have freedom of speech.

Let me show you something where we don't have freedom of speech.

Is counseling freedom of speech?

This is what was in front of the Supreme Court yesterday.

It comes from Colorado.

Colorado has a ban on conversion therapy.

2019, they passed a law.

Counselors cannot try to change a minor client's gender identity or sexual orientation, including behaviors or gender expressions.

I mean, you want to talk about freedom of speech.

I can't try to change your behavior?

What is the point of going to church?

Okay.

Can't try to change behaviors or gender expressions or sexual identity or orientation.

It does permit, it has an exception.

The counselor can offer assistance to a person undergoing gender transition.

So you can help them one direction.

You just can't help them the other direction.

Now, Kaylee Chiles, she is a licensed counselor in Colorado.

She's in Colorado Springs.

God bless her heart.

And she specializes in addiction, trauma, sexuality, gender dysphoria, and other mental health concerns.

She's a Christian, and she serves clients who are seeking religiously informed care that aligns with biblical teachings, especially on sexuality and gender.

Now,

prior to 2019, she was fine.

She counseled clients, including minors,

And

she would say, you know, this is what the Bible says.

This is how you do it.

And she would help people, you know, with their gender dysphoria.

Now, she, once the law passed, she stopped all discussion with minors, everything else.

She's abiding by the law.

However,

she has a lawsuit.

That's the court case that the Supreme Court heard yesterday.

Does counseling count?

Or is counseling freedom of speech?

Can I not counsel based on my religious dictates?

Colorado says no.

This is going to be a huge case.

Let me tell you some things that I absolutely believe.

And I can say them today.

But if this court case goes the wrong way, will I be allowed to to say these things?

These are things I absolutely believe.

I believe that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained by God and the family is central to the Creator's plan for eternal destiny of his children.

Believe it.

I believe all human beings, male and female, are created in the image of God.

Each of us is a beloved spirit, a son or daughter of

We have divine nature, destiny, and gender is an essential characteristic of individual eternal identity and purpose.

Any of this controversial today?

The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve

was pertaining to parenthood.

Husband and wife, go have children.

God's commandment of go and multiply and replenish the earth has never been revoked.

So that is our first commandment from God.

Replenish the earth, have children.

God commands that procreation, the powers that he gives us.

This is the only thing where we can truly create the way the Creator does, where we partner with Him and our bodies and our spirits and we make children.

And that should only be used between a man and a woman lawfully,

lawfully wedded as husband and wife.

Life

The sanctity of life

is

everything to God's eternal plan.

Husband and wife have a responsibility to love and care for one another and their children.

You have a sacred duty to rear your children in love, in righteousness,

to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them love, serve one another, observe the commandments of God, be law-abiding citizens wherever they live.

Mothers and fathers, if you don't do this, you're going to be held accountable because it is your highest calling.

This is your obligation.

Is this controversial?

Marriage between a man and a woman, the basic building block of all life in the universe, is male and female creating life.

That tells me that's an eternal truth.

You don't create life with male and male.

The universe collapses male and male, female and female.

So the universal truth,

the way man was created,

the truth is male and female to create children.

And that is an eternal plan.

And every time we break that plan, every time we decide that we're just going to have sex

outside of matrimony, outside of the family,

every time you break mom and dad and child, every time you don't honor your marital vows,

it hurts all of society.

Happiness, and we all know this, happiness is best achieved when

you're just living the principles of Christ.

You've got man and woman both lawfully wedded, and they're creating children, and they're both trying to do the right right thing, following God: repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, all of this stuff.

There will come a time, because all of this stuff comes from the Bible.

There will come a time where I can't have the freedom of speech to say those things.

That will be deemed hate speech.

That's what's in front of the Supreme Court yesterday.

We have people in black robes deciding whether that can be said by me, by you, by a counselor, by a priest.

In Colorado today, that counselor cannot sit down with that minor and say what I just said.

It's against the law

in Colorado.

Is that

the

freedom

that the left is

preaching for?

Is that, I mean, is that, yes, that is their definition of freedom.

Their definition of freedom is: counselors can't say those things.

You can't say those things.

Churches can't say those things.

That's all hate speech.

We should kill people who disagree with us.

That's the society that the left is offering you.

No, thank you.

No, thank you.

And no matter what the punishment is, I won't stop saying those things

because I believe them.

And I can't change what I believe.

Because I believe them.

It's not something I just say.

It's how I live my life.

It's years and years and years of experimentation of that works, that doesn't.

Wow, that hurts.

Don't do that again.

That's how I got my beliefs.

I tore myself apart.

What do you actually believe about God?

And if you haven't done that, you don't really have a testimony.

It requires you.

But that only happens when life pushes you up against the wall.

And that's why God is allowing a lot of this stuff to happen.

He needs his children pushed up against the wall to wake up.

What is true?

What is worth standing for?

What is worth dying for?

What is worth living for?

Find those things.

You'll find Christ.

You'll find God.

And you'll find happiness.

And

we will find peace.

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So the people arguing this in front of the Supreme Court is the Alliance Defending Freedom.

We have their CEO on in with us in just a minute.

But make no mistake,

we are deep in the fight for First Amendment rights.

I mean, I'm going to the University of North Dakota tomorrow.

I'm filling in for Charlie Kirk.

And there's this great

from the West Central Tribune.

up in North Dakota.

Sadly, Kirk was murdered in September.

Great article.

During the similar event in Utah.

Now other ultra-conservative

speakers are continuing the tour in Kirk's stead.

Beck is nationally famous, blah, blah, blah.

His views approach at the event at UND likely will be similar to what Kirk would have presented.

Discussions about personal values, Republican viewpoints, not really.

And we assume, inviting debate.

Beck's appearance will be blah, blah, blah.

It has the potential to be controversial, which begs the question, why bring controversial speakers to campus in the first place?

Because, as the University of North Dakota President Andrew Armakos said, it is important for us to foster the spirit of inquiry.

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I urge you to look at the economic signs that are everywhere.

Yesterday I told you gold was at a record it just broke $4,000,

and it was like $4,005, $4,000,

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We'll get into it in just a minute.

Now, we've been talking about

the right to free speech and the case that was heard in front of the Supreme Court yesterday.

Is counseling free speech or not.

Kristen Wagner, she is the CEO and president, chief counsel of Alliance Defending Freedom, and they are at the forefront of this and so many other battles.

Kristen, how are you?

Welcome.

I'm good.

Thanks for having me.

So, Kirsten, tell me,

how did it go yesterday?

What signs, if any, did you get from the Supreme Court and their questioning on which way this might fall?

I think it went very well.

You know, I think just to understand the law that's at issue, Colorado, the state of Colorado had passed a law that allows licensed counselors to encourage children to transition and identify as the opposite sex.

But if a child instead wants to be comfortable with the body, the law says that the counselor can't talk to that child about that and the child can't get the help that they need.

And so the real issue is, does this violate the First Amendment?

Is it viewpoint discrimination because one side side is favored over another?

And can the state peer into a counseling room and interfere in a private conversation?

So, I mean, I think it's a violation of all of those things.

You know, I mean, this one seems really easy to me.

You can't do it one way and not the other.

But the thing that really concerns me is this, this

veers deeply into religious belief as well.

You know, I just, you know, talked about some things that I believe, and gender is ordained by God.

You don't get a pick.

It's ordained by God.

I believe that.

You might not believe that, but I do.

Am I not allowed to say that if I'm a counselor?

You're not in Colorado.

If a child comes to you and says, I am feeling uncomfortable in my body, I would like to have a conversation.

I would like to sit and listen and talk through these issues.

And you in any way address behavior, sexual behavior, attractions, feelings, expressions, that is a violation of the law if you're encouraging them to live consistent with their sex.

But wait, wait, wait,

just so I understand clearly, if they come in and say the same thing and I say, you know what, you should try, you know, let's just change your sex, that's fine.

Yes, that's actually in the law.

It's in the law that you can affirm what their perceived gender identity, that gender transitions can be affirmed.

And I think just to talk about the scope of the law, this law, a similar law, is in place in about 20 other states.

So again, Glenn, you're right to think about how does this affect my family?

If it was my child or my children's friends and I needed to get help, I would want an experienced professional that shares my beliefs also.

And Kaylee Chiles, our client at the Supreme Court, she is a Christian and she does believe that God creates our bodies to be, and they're wonderfully made, and wants to encourage children in this way simply by listening and talking to them.

What are the ramifications if it goes the other way?

If it stays with California, or I mean, Colorado?

I think first and foremost, we need to realize that unjust laws like this, there is a human toll, and so we, of course, have to go to the children that cannot get the help that they need.

The science tells us that 90% of all kids who are gender dysphoric, if they are able to just go through adolescence with listening and talking, that they will identify with their sex and live healthy and happy lives.

But 97% of kids that even start with just social transition, those kids experience irreversible harm and become lifelong medical patients.

So first and foremost, this issue has to be about our children and the future of our nation.

And then second, think about the fact that an authoritarian government now has the power to come into private voluntary conversations and put certain topics off limits because they're pushing a radical ideology.

It's stunning to me how the left keeps calling our side authoritarian.

And they just don't see the authoritarian nature of almost everything regarding speech with their side of the argument.

That's absolutely true.

And I think there's manipulation in the language that's being used.

I mean, what many people will probably read in their newspapers this morning is that this case was about so-called conversion therapy.

They're labeling listening and talking to children as conversion therapy.

And so, again, it's just a manipulation of language to, I think, deceive the public and to push an ideology onto families that is just bringing great devastation.

What is the definition of conversion therapy?

Because when I hear that, I think of like, you know,

the dark ages, you will submit.

You know, that's not the same.

What is the definition of conversion therapy?

The law actually spells it out.

It's in the plain language of the statute, and it says it's any practice, any treatment that would seek to change an identity and not just an identity, but also including minimizing or changing gender expression, gender attractions or sexual feelings, as well as behaviors.

You simply can't have a conversation that would do any of those things without violating the law.

And then later the statute expressly again says, but if you're transitioning a child, that's acceptable.

And affirming that child is acceptable.

And again, these are voluntary conversations, right?

So Colorado, at age 12 in Colorado, you can go have a mastectomy without a

child can consent to a mastectomy at age 12, but they cannot consent to a conversation to say, I want to live at peace with my body.

That's insane.

So does this,

this will bleed into our churches and everything if this is strengthened by the Supreme Court, if this stands with the Supreme Court, it doesn't just stay there, does it?

I mean, would it affect, could it grow into me as a parent?

I can't say those things to my kids.

Well, yes, I mean, it already is, right?

Like, we'll just look at Colorado now.

We have multiple suits against the state of Colorado at Alliance Defending Freedom,

forced pronouns that they are forcing business owners to use.

We've gone, we sued this last year over a camp this summer, a Christian camp, that was told they had to put boys in the girls' cabin rooms.

We have, of course, the cases involving the business owners of Jack Phillips, but we have overnight accommodations in their public school policies where literally they're putting boys in girls' rooms without telling the parents or the children, asking them to share the same beds.

So, yes, this whole ideology has become entrenched in the law, and it is one of our priorities to uproot it.

But that takes all of us to do that.

Yeah.

Kirsten, thank you so much.

What you guys do at Alliance Defending Freedom is remarkable.

You are always on it, and I so appreciate it.

If you are looking to support any group that is in the fight, actually in the fight, they were there at the Supreme Court yesterday.

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Kirsten, thank you so much.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

You bet.

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And I am convinced we are going to be told that aliens are coming our way.

Wait, what?

Yeah,

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You're convinced?

I'm convinced.

I'm not saying they are.

I'm saying we're going to be told aliens are on the way.

Wow, okay.

And

this object is huge, and it's been traveling forever.

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And

it doesn't have the tail that a comet has you know when a comet is going through you know gas and everything else is flying off and so they have this tail this doesn't have a tail and the pictures that they released this weekend was it's a perfectly shaped cylindrical object okay did you see that sarah did you see the pictures i mean right i mean sharp corners on it it looks like a tic-tac

it does well it's not sharp corners well but it's like physically rounded or something it's perfectly rounded but on the edges, I think it had the corners on the two ends.

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It does not look natural.

Okay.

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Where we were listening for signals from space.

1977, something happens, and it's called the WOW signal because

on the readout, the paper, the scientist that was working just highlighted it and went, wow, because it was an unnatural signal.

It was a very strong signal, a burst of a message or something that was not natural.

But they didn't know what it was.

It never repeated itself.

And so they just said, well, it's the WOW signal.

Don't know what that was.

But now they're looking back and they've pinpointed where that WOW signal, because they knew where that WOW signal came from.

And they've taken the trajectory of this object and they've put it back into time, 1977.

And they're saying it's a 0.6%

chance that the signal

did not come from that exact space.

Over a 99% chance it did.

Over a 99% chance that it came from where that object was in 1977.

So they're not saying for sure it was somewhere.

If you're paying attention to this, it just keeps building into

something.

I don't know how they're going to back up.

It's at Mars.

So I don't know how they're like, because they're like, look at this.

This is not, this is not.

This is not natural.

This is perfectly formed.

It's not natural.

We don't know what it is, yada, yada, yada.

And nobody seems to be paying attention to it.

Now, I'm not saying that it is alien life.

Look at that.

Yeah, it does look more like a tic-tac.

Yeah, look at it.

There it is.

But look at that.

It's straight lines.

Yeah, I mean, it's a very blurry, faraway picture, though.

I mean,

yeah, let's see.

They also say what's coming off of it is, I'm trying to remember what they said it was, but some

it's not giving off,

it's giving off things that are like alloys or or I can't remember what it was.

Did you read that, Sarah?

It's giving off something that is an alloy that would be like a hardened ship.

I mean, I don't know any of this if it's true, but I just feel like we're being prepared for

aliens are coming.

We should all band together and get your digital ID because they're coming.

And this digital ID and the new currency is all going to be, that's what's going to save us from these aliens.

I mean,

I I know that sounds crazy, but we're living in a crazy world.

I would agree with that.

I'll also say that if it does look like a Tic Tac, it looks like one of those white ones that starts out with a delicious vanilla and then turns into that terrible mint.

Like,

why not just make one that's just that delicious vanilla?

Why can't I have that?

That doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm not up on my mint controversy, so I don't know.

I mean, it's not a controversy.

It's settled science in my mind, but whatever.

No, it's interesting.

I mean, some of the pictures,

you can't tell what's a recreation, what isn't.

Like, there's some of these NASA sites I'm glancing at that don't look as perfectly rounded as this sort of picture does there.

So maybe they do think it's a rock still.

I don't know.

I also will say the trajectory of it does seem like it's going to pass.

Not pretty close to us, like it's going to hit us, but like close enough, we're going to get a real nice view of it.

Yeah.

Whatever it is.

Yeah.

Especially when it's firing down its lasers at us.

We'll see.

nice.

That's going to be beautiful.

That will light up the skies.

It's very nice.

Very nice.

Very nice.

So we'll have that.

I think the last time it went around,

went around something, I don't remember, it was not affected by gravity.

Oh, they're like, wow, how is that happening?

Hmm.

I, you know, but you know,

why not have another?

A lot of this stuff is coming from Harvard, but I don't know if I believe Harvard anymore.

You know, it's, I mean, it's really, we just live in interesting times.

Really interesting.

I can't wait to see how this all turns out.

I can't wait to see exactly what happens in the next few years.

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Katie Porter, she's a Democrat

representative from California who ran for Senate and lost, and now she's running for governor.

Yesterday, about this time, she was the front runner.

Today, she's not.

I just want to play a clip of the interview she did yesterday.

What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win who voted for Trump?

How would I need them in order to win, man?

Well, unless you think you're going to get 60% of the vote.

You think you'll get 60%.

Everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

That's what you're saying.

In a general election?

Yes.

If it is me versus a Republican, I think that I will win the people who did not vote for Trump.

What if it's you versus another Democrat?

I don't intend that to be the case.

So how do you not intend that to be the case?

Are you going to ask them not to run?

No, no, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.

I have the support already in terms of name recognition.

And so I'm going to do the very best I can to make sure that we get through this primary in a really strong position.

But let me be clear with you.

I represented Orange County.

I represented a purple area.

I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before.

That's not something every candidate in this race can say.

If you're from a deep blue area, if you're from LA, or you're from Oakland,

you don't have an experience.

You just said you don't need those Trump voters.

You asked me if I needed them to win.

So you don't need to win.

I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.

What is your question?

The question is, the same thing I asked everybody, that this is being called the Empowering Voters to Stop Trump's power grab.

Every other candidate has answered this question.

This is not

I said I support it.

So and the question is what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump?

Oh I'm happy to say that.

It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand.

I'm happy to answer the question as you have it written and I'll answer it.

And we've also asked the other candidates do you think you need any of those 40%

of California voters to win?

And you're saying no, you don't.

No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can.

And what I'm saying to you is that

well to those voters.

Okay, so so you I don't want to to keep doing this.

I'm going to call it.

Thank you.

She gets up and walks away.

You're not going to do the interview with us.

Nope, not like this.

I'm not.

Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.

Oh, God, for that.

Every other candidate has answered.

I don't care.

I don't care.

I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation with you ask me about every issue on this list.

And if every question, you're going to make up a follow-up question, then we're never going to get there.

And we're just going to circle around.

I am an interviewer.

I've never had to do this before, ever.

You've never had to have a conversation with

you.

Okay, but every other candidate has done this.

What part of, I'm me, I'm running for governor because I'm a leader.

So I am going to make...

So you're not going to answer questions from reporters?

Okay, why don't we go through?

I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these.

And if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer.

So nearly every legislative government.

I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you.

And I don't want this all on camera.

I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.

I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues that they care about.

And redissecting, it's a massive issue.

We're going to do an entire story just on the responses to that question.

And I've asked everybody the same follow-up question.

Didn't go well.

Wow.

Didn't go well.

Somebody who is, she kind of even says it.

She's never had to deal with follow-up questions before.

No.

What an amazing.

We sometimes don't appreciate what a great life it must be on the left.

Oh, you just.

I thought about that a lot.

Oh, my God.

You never have to deal with anything.

No one ever asks you a follow-up.

No one ever pushes you on anything.

You just say whatever you want and everyone just walks away as if it was the greatest thing of all time.

That must be so much fun.

I mean, I mean, you know.

You'd be so intellectually weak.

Oh, so intelligent.

You see it there.

She asks one minor follow-up question that isn't adversary at all, and she pulls the plug on the interview.

I'm not going to do this.

I don't want all this on camera.

Well, there's a lot that I haven't wanted on camera.

It didn't stop anybody else.

All right.

That's when they get most excited about it.

Oh, I know.

I know.

I know.

That's so bizarre.

I wasn't, she didn't, the reporter wasn't even

going at her hard.

It was like, hey, what do you mean you don't need?

I mean, it's such a, what a layup of a question, Glenn.

You know, no, no offense, but it's like,

do you need the 40%

of people to Trump voters to win?

You say, well, you know, I want to get as many of them as I can.

And, of course, I want to get as many voters as I can, but I'm going to stand on my principle.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like

any copsy

politician, that's not even a follow-up question.

It's like, do you want more voters?

That's the hard question she walked out of an interview for.

But here's it.

I mean, remember who she is.

Remember who she is.

Okay.

Must we?

Well, I mean, I think we've we've just proven everything that they said wasn't true.

According to people who had worked in her office, she has made several, multiple staffers cry.

People are generally so anxious

to even staff her because if anything goes wrong, she flips out on whatever staffer is present.

She just talks to staffers however she wants.

One criticism of Porter has been that she allegedly is a terrible person, according to some accounts, abusive and racist.

In December, text messages surfaced in which Porter scolded a staffer for giving the congresswoman COVID.

One message said she was rage-prone and had a tendency to disparage staffers.

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Those are from her staffer.

And remember, those are from 2022.

I mean, we've seen this and they just buried all of that.

And now you're starting to see it.

You know, when you force people into uncomfortable situations, you generally see who they really are.

And that wasn't really an uncomfortable.

That was a normal

situation for anybody who's running.

You can't handle that, sweetheart.

You can't handle anything.

But imagine you're in California.

She was the front runner yesterday.

That's who everybody's like.

Yeah, I'll probably vote for her.

Yeah.

Yesterday.

Looking at Cal She, one of the prediction markets, and she was at a 40% chance to win, which was double anybody else in the race.

And today, she's now a slight underdog in the race from that interview.

It was that bad.

Now,

we don't know how the electorate actually responds to it, and it'll take some time for publication.

We don't know how much it actually people actually will see it.

Right.

You know, it could run and then go away.

A lot of conservatives are going to see that today because conservatives are going to play it like crazy.

Will people who might actually vote for her see it is a totally different question.

How do we, you know, we watch NBC, CNN.

We have MSNBC on us in front of us all the time.

We listen to NPR.

We listen to,

you know, the New York Times.

We read the New York Times.

Maybe it's time to appreciate us a little bit more.

Just saying, we do that for you every day.

Yeah.

Just so you know.

Yeah, we do it so you don't have to.

However,

we bring those things up all the time on the air.

We know where the other side stands.

There are stories that just don't hit

that side.

Yeah, they have no idea it even.

And they don't listen to anything else.

And so there are stories like that stupid story of the judge's house burning down.

There are going to be people forever that believe that was a hate crime.

There is no evidence of anything.

Even

that it was some conservative who did it.

It was a house that burned down.

That's all we know now.

There's no, they had to immediately jump to, it's a house of a judge.

That judge stopped Donald Trump.

Harmeet Dylan wrote a really

absolutely innocuous,

you know, hey, this judge just made this ruling.

We will fight that every way we possibly can.

That can't stand.

They took that and said, Harmeet Dillon was targeting this judge.

So somebody went on the right and burned that judge's house down.

None of of that.

There's no evidence of any of that.

They don't even know what caused the fire yet.

And I'll bet you you're going to find out that it wasn't arson.

It was just a normal fire.

It was 11 o'clock in the morning.

It was just a normal fire.

The house burned down.

It was a tragedy.

Glad that nobody was hurt.

Well, her husband was hurt in it.

He had some broken bones and stuff as he tried to get out of the house.

And we wish them the best.

But you're going to find, I think, and I'll correct it if we find differently,

it wasn't any of those things.

But they have reported that now as fact.

How many people are going to believe that forever?

I can guarantee you, I have members of my own family who will bring that up to me.

Well, you say violence is what about burning the judge's house down?

And I'll have to say, that's not true.

Yes, it is.

And they won't believe me because they heard it on NBC.

They heard it it on CNN, they heard it in the Washington Post, and so they just believe it.

There are no facts to back that none.

Now, there may be in the future, maybe in a couple of days, let the process work, but there's none.

These journalists on the left are so unbelievably irresponsible.

And then because they have zombified their entire base, their base will not listen to the other side.

There are stories, I guarantee you.

Think about how many people are going to believe from here on out that Charlie Kirk was either killed by a Jew or somebody in his own camp or

it was a left-winger.

It was a Donald Trump MAGA killer.

Because that's what they said.

And they're not listening to you.

They're not watching Fox.

They're not getting their news.

They don't.

All

news

from major traditionally trusted sources, they watch all of that and they think they're getting a variety.

Well, I read the Times and the Post.

Oh, New York Post or Washington Post?

Well, not the New York Post, the Washington Post.

There's no variety there.

No, it's the same thing.

And this is how something like you can change your gender with a series of magical words comes into effect.

Because the

liberal hears something like the gender stuff, for example, and they hear it the first time, and they, just like you, react the same way.

What?

What do you mean you can just become a girl?

What are you talking about?

They, in their minds, react the same way the first time they hear that.

And then they hear it 500,000 other times unchallenged.

And saying science is settled.

Yep.

And they're like, wow, I must have been wrong about that.

And even if they don't say, if they have nothing to back it up, like in this burning down the house, they just say it over and over and people go, well, they wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.

Right.

And I don't hear anybody else, oh, except for the crazy conservatives who cares what they're saying.

So, I mean, this is why I would, you know, I have hope.

Again, there's a lot of work to be done.

She's got a difficult job, but like I have hope for the Barry Weiss situation at CBSB, too.

It would be great if there was just a, an organization out of all of the ones that exist that just comes out and gives you fair, you know, balanced stuff.

Now, I know Fox does that, but they're seen more as a conservative network, obviously.

But their slogan for years was fair and balanced.

And it was seen by the people who watched it and watched other networks as the most balanced.

When we were there, I remember.

Yeah, I think it was 40, 30 or 40% of the audience was

Democrats.

Yeah, so there's plenty of people who

will actually go and read and listen to other things,

but it's not particularly common.

And I don't know what might happen is if the coverage by Barry Weiss over at CBS is quote-unquote too fair.

They will be going to be,

they'll just be seen as a right-wing network and be dismissed against them.

That's how they'll make them.

And by the way, congratulations.

I was so glad to see Glad and everybody else, you know, LGBTQ, come out and celebrate Barry Weiss getting that position.

Smashing another glass ceiling.

Another glass ceiling.

It is amazing.

So much fanfare.

Too much fanfare.

It really was.

I was overwhelmed.

It really was.

I mean, I'm like, okay, yes, it's a first, but I mean, do we have to make that big a deal out of it?

Yeah.

Or did you hear anything?

I didn't hear one word about it.

One word of celebration.

No.

No one, no one can't.

Again, this is a person who founded the free press with her

wife.

It was just bought by a major media organization for nine figures, and she's now the editor-in-chief or the

editor-in-chief of CBS News.

Not a no flowery discussions about her sexual preference.

No.

Her sexual orientation.

No.

And she's not even conservative.

No, she's not.

She's not.

She's just fake.

She describes herself as center left.

Right.

And this is how desperate we are in the right.

We're like, wait, someone who's center left and actually it kind of means something with her?

Like she will actually say, sometimes conservatives are right on stuff.

That is, we're like, fine.

We're not even asking.

Look at how desperate we are, but look at the other side.

How authoritarian they are on the other side.

You can't even say occasionally they get it right.

No.

Nope.

Never.

Never.

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I want to talk to you just for a second about gold.

Gold is up today.

Yesterday, it broke a record of $4,005 an ounce.

That is unreasonable.

That is, that is,

you know, when I first started talking about $4,100 gold or $4,200 gold 18 months ago, I said, I know that sounds crazy, but it could happen.

We're on the way.

I mean, it's now $4,058 an ounce.

That's 24 hours later.

And so it's more than halfway to 4,100.

And Goldman Sachs said they are now pricing gold at $5,000 an ounce.

Here's what I want you to know.

This is not being purchased by the average person.

My grandfather told me when I was growing up, over and over again, if you grew up with anybody who lived through the depression, they they wanted to tell you how bad it was in the depression.

Okay.

And they wanted to because they wanted you to know it could happen at any time.

And you're like, it's not going to happen.

It could happen at any time.

We went through really good times and we thought, oh, we're safe.

And then all of a sudden the bottom fell out and it was nothing.

And you're like, it's not going to happen, grandpa.

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The average person is not buying gold.

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conservatives, who are generally the ones that buy gold,

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Gold being at $4,100 an ounce, growing as dramatically as it has, 18 months ago, it was like 2,000, 2,500, something like that.

This is never before seen.

What it's telling you is

there's trouble on the horizon.

The full faith and credit of the United States, that's what that Federal Reserve note that you hold in your hand,

is based on the full faith and credit of the United States.

We believe in it, and so it has value.

The minute you stop believing in it, it has no value.

With the government shutdown, with people thinking, well, they're just going to keep spending money.

This is what the markets do.

People are starting to lose the belief that our money is worth something.

The good thing is, we're the only

currency that's worth crap right now.

So people are like, well, I don't have any else, any other place to put it.

We say in God we trust, but that's not true.

In the almighty dollar we trust.

When that trust is gone, we believe in gold.

In the almighty God of gold, we trust.

When you're getting to that point, all of a sudden people start to go, wow, there's trouble.

I think I actually believe in God God, not gold God, not dollar God, but God God.

Okay.

And you're seeing that transition happening.

Have you noticed how many people are turning to God?

How many people are talking about God?

How open I am about God right now?

And Stu will tell you, 25 years ago, I said, when I just start quoting scripture and

I'm just laying it all out, we're in deep trouble.

And I said, that time will come, but it's not today.

Well, it's today.

So this is happening everywhere.

And that's because it's normal.

It's normal.

What's happening to us is normal.

We are getting closer and closer to an edge and people are waking up at their pain points.

And until we all wake up, the pain will just get worse and worse.

Gold is not being purchased by the average person.

It's being purchased by the central banks.

That

should tell you all you need to know.

Our sovereign funds, our central banks, not our central bank, I don't think our central bank is doing squat.

But, you know, I think the biggest, in the last quarter, the biggest bulk of gold went to Poland and their central bank and Turjekistan or one of those places.

It is all going into the central banks because they're sensing real trouble is coming.

I want to sell some dollars and I'm going to buy gold with it.

And I want that physical gold in my vault.

This is my grandfather saying, pay attention to what the rich people are doing.

Pay attention to to what the central banks are doing.

The same central banks that are telling you, no, everything is fine.

We got it.

We got it.

We can fix this.

The same central banks are hiding the fact that they're buying gold.

Nobody's announcing it

because they want you to believe in the dollar.

What they're saying is, I'm not sure we entirely believe in the dollar.

So please just

catalog this and let it adjust your course as you see.

You know, I've always said, as the Starfield continues to roll in this really dark direction, I'm sorry, I'm going to keep going in that direction.

The minute I see the star field start rolling the other direction, I'll tell you, and I want to tell you those things.

When it comes to economics, Starfield is just moving rapidly.

When it comes to hope, real hope, you know, know, not in the dollar we trust, but in God we trust, that actually is starting to roll the other direction.

Not with everybody, but with enough where it could really impact us.

And that's the most important sign that you should look for because that's where we have to do really

all of our work is there.

That's the only thing that, in the end, is going to matter.

And when I say it's starting to move in the right direction,

we are not paying attention.

Half of our country is not paying attention to the violence that is happening on our streets.

Tonight, we show you what's happening in Portland and Chicago, and it's bad.

And they're just dismissing it.

And they're saying nothing is wrong.

Remember, these are the same people that were telling you, you have to take the vaccine or you'll kill children.

And it's perfectly safe.

They lied to you.

They have lied to you over and over and over again.

When are you going to stop listening to liars?

So these same people that are telling you that we're completely fine

are telling you that we don't really have a problem with violence, with political violence.

And if we do, it's all from the right.

And we addressed that, I think, yesterday or the day before and showed you, you know, if somebody is white and they kill a black man and it's, you know, a bar fight,

it's marked down as right-wing violence because it's a white man killing a black man.

Do you think that's reasonable?

I don't, but that's the way it's marked.

So that's where you get these overwhelming numbers.

Oh, that's right-wing violence.

No, it's the way they're categorizing things.

Even with that categorization,

even with, yes, even with them categorizing in that particular fashion,

it's now swung back.

And so now it's showing, no, the problem is on the left, okay,

even without changing the way they categorize stuff.

So you know there's a huge problem.

Did you hear the story of the man on Sunday that was arrested outside of a church that was holding a mass in honor of the Supreme Court?

The Supreme Court justices usually have Mass before it starts, you know, the term starts.

All the Catholic ones, they go to this church.

And this 41-year-old guy from Arizona, he's outside of the cathedral.

It's St.

Matthew the Apostle.

And they're getting ready to have their red mass.

And what their red mass means, a cardinal who wears red, he's going to conduct the service and he will pray for the court and yada, yada, yada.

Well, he's in this green tent there on the steps of the church.

and police come and they say, you got to clear out.

And he says, you might want to stay back and call the federales.

Now, why would he say that?

I have explosives.

The

police call the bomb squad.

They're needed because of special event, blah, blah, blah.

And

They said, you've got to move.

You're going to be under arrest, blah, blah, blah.

He says, I have hundreds of bombs and he pulls out a bomb that he's holding and he said, you don't want to mess with me.

Well, this has been reported that, you know,

it was just a crazy guy on the street.

And, you know, he didn't really have anything.

Well, we now know

that he had 200

weapons of mass destruction.

He had 200 homemade bombs, and the FBI is now saying they were operatable.

And he was going to bomb the church once the justices arrived.

Well, the justices didn't arrive because that's the same place where they were, you know, all these left-wingers were shouting at Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and everything else in the last couple of years.

So now, with all of the violence, they've decided they can't go to any public kind of things.

So they didn't come.

But this guy has been now charged.

He said several of your people are going to die from these bombs.

Then he handed a manifesto entitled Written Negotiations for the Avoidance of Destruction of Property via Detonation of Explosives.

It's,

you know, he just rambles on about how much he hates the Catholic Church, how much he hates the Jews, how much he hates SCODIS, and how much he hates ICE.

This again is left-wing.

What just happened, was it earlier this week or last week, to the guy who was trying to kill Kavanaugh?

The standards say you give this person up to 30 years.

This judge decided to dismiss 22 of those years and gave him eight, which will allow him to be paroled in four.

Why?

Because

he's now a she.

And the parents and the mom were crying, you got to send him home to us because we can care for him.

Excuse me?

The guy was a dude before he was arrested.

Now he's suddenly a she.

And now we're supposed to have sympathy for that.

I don't care what sexual orientation you are.

You are trying to kill Supreme Court justices by not enforcing the law and not saying

30 years.

You do this kind of stuff, 30 years.

What happened to our killing of police once we said we used to have a rule?

You kill a police officer, automatic, quick death penalty.

We got all soft.

Look how many police officers are killed.

They stopped killing, the mob stopped killing police officers quickly.

Watch the Godfather.

No, no, no, no, no.

He's a cop.

Don't, don't.

Because they knew the penalty was horrific.

When you get rid of that, you just let people go.

I'll spend four years to kill those guys.

I'll spend four years in jail.

What's this guy going to get?

Four minutes?

Or time served?

We have a real issue with our judicial system,

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with our attorney generals, with our district attorneys.

They must prosecute these people.

And as you'll see on TV tonight, the police have to not be in with the

rioters and the Antifa and everybody else.

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Well, they run the streets now.

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you can tell the police, he no longer, in Portland, no longer thinks the police are necessarily the good guys.

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Jack, it's always good to see you.

It is so great to see you.

Thank you so much for having me.

And it is so amazing to watch you work in this studio.

I've been in a lot of studios over the last few years and none are as clean and efficient as what you have going on here.

It's absolutely amazing to watch you work.

Someone at the top of their game do this.

It's just remarkable.

Are you going to ask me for money?

Maybe a blurb.

It's good to have you here, in case you don't know, best-selling author and executive producer of the Terminal List series of books.

And

that's Netflix.

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Amazon Prime.

Prime Video.

And just finished the next season of the show, which is True Believer, based on my second book.

Finished filming that in Morocco about two weeks ago, so pretty fresh from finishing that up, jumping on a plane, meeting my wife in Paris for a few days, and then heading out here to see you.

So it's been go, go, go.

Yeah.

So tell me about the new book.

It came out yesterday, and you said it in Vietnam, which is Vietnam, 1968.

Is a real break, right?

It's a break for my main protagonist, James Reese, who is the protagonist of my contemporary thriller series.

So there are seven of those, ends with Red Sky Morning last year.

There was just a nice arc to those first seven books.

And I kind of, at the very beginning, I was very deliberate in wanting to create other characters within the universe that would be interesting enough to have books in their own right.

And I wanted to have multi-generational characters also.

So James Reese, his dad and grandfather, and then this other lineage, the Hastings family, of the Hastings and his father and grandfather.

So this is the first exploration.

Little empire.

So filling a universe out here.

And I talked about the dad in most of the books, but

most in-depth in Only the Dead.

So in book number six.

And it just made sense to go back to 1968, Vietnam, explore his origin story as a SEAL attached to Mac V.

SOG going across the border into Laos.

What is Mac Visa?

So it's a very innocuous sounding name.

So Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Studies and Observations Group.

So the SOG part is the important part.

And it was meant kind of to be innocuous so that

they wouldn't be readily apparent that these guys were going across the border into denied areas in Laos, Cambodia, and and North Vietnam, where they weren't supposed to be operating, where Americans were not supposed to be operating.

So they were there to do disruption operations along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, primarily, call in airstrikes, blow up weapons caches, and that sort of thing.

So that's the baseline for it.

But I really wanted to do was set an espionage story in Southeast Asia in 1968, which was the bloodiest year of the war for the United States.

And no one had really done that in a long time.

So that was The Quiet American by Graham Greene, 1955.

The Tears of Autumn, that's Charles McCarry, 1974.

And John the Carray, The Honorable Schoolboy, 1977.

And I'm not aware of anyone else doing this since those guys.

So it's been a couple moons, and I decided that's what I want to do.

Espionage story, Saigon, heart of Vietnam, Southeast Asia, and the bloodiest year for our country.

So when you got into this,

how much was any of it because there's so much that is parallel that is happening now?

I mean, the society is reflecting all the way to assassinations what was happening at that time.

Did that play a role in this at all?

Well, just by default.

But mostly it was because the Father's War was Vietnam.

There happened to be parallels between what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam.

We didn't really listen to those, learn those lessons, and apply them in a present day as wisdom.

And we tend to do that over and over and over again.

We are really stupid as a species.

Specifically when it relates to Afghanistan, we had the Soviet experience from 79 to 89 that we could have looked at.

And if we took any lessons, we took the wrong ones, unfortunately.

So what did you because you're younger than me, but we're not by too much.

That's made too many years.

So

we both grew up.

We saw Vietnam.

We saw the wreckage of Vietnam.

I know Vietnam soldiers, and I mean, it's really what molded me on my support for the military.

If we decide to go to war, then we go to war to fight it and finish it and bring them home and then take care of the men that served over there.

And we're not doing it again.

Another lesson we don't ever seem to learn.

What did you learn about Vietnam that maybe did it change anything, any viewpoint or anything?

It did a little bit in that I thought I knew a lot about Vietnam at the outset.

I thought I had studied this conflict the 60s also.

My parents were essentially children of the 60s.

So I grew up with that

in my household.

I was influenced by popular culture, the movies of the 70s and the 80s and the 90s that pertained to Vietnam and the 60s in general.

So I thought I was starting from a fairly solid foundation.

I've studied warfare, insurgencies, counterinsurgencies my entire life.

Then I started writing and I realized that I had really just scratched the surface before.

So I wanted to also write this book through the lens of 1968.

So without 50 plus years of hindsight applied to different characters.

That's why we're talking here in October rather than June when the book was supposed to come out because it took so much longer to write a book like that.

Meaning every single character, whether they're 25 years old, 50, 70 years old, they only have their life experience up to 1968 to lend to their perspective on an event, on a conversation, a situation.

Did you give any scenario where you were like, I can't write that?

You know, I immersed myself back into that year.

So a watch from 1968 right here.

I had Seiko watches out there too.

Those play into the

I had Browning High Powers from that era lying around.

I had Car-15s lying around.

It looked like I was about to invade North Vietnam.

I had maps from that era all over the place.

I had red dots on those maps, books everywhere, pamphlets, old national geographics from the 50s and 60s about Vietnam.

So it really did look like I was planning an invasion.

But I learned so much more about Vietnam, but mostly it was those perspectives.

So I have a Soviet perspective.

I have a U.S.

perspective.

I have a Vietnamese perspective.

I have a U.S.

perspective from Washington.

And all of those

to give, to show people as they read this thing that there are these different perspectives on the war and all these different people are bringing their life experiences to this story to really immerse people and take them back in time to 1968.

I just want to

say that they're listening to Cretan's Clearwater Revival, say it's 1968 and drop a contemporary thriller into Vietnam.

I wanted to immerse myself in this year and it really became historical fiction.

And

as such, it took a lot more time, energy, and effort than I anticipated at the outset.

Let me ask you about some of the stuff that is going on now.

The Department of War.

How do you feel about Department of War as opposed to Department of Defense?

Yeah, well, I'm not saying that they got this idea from me.

I'm just saying that I never heard anyone talk about it

until I mentioned it after the Afghanistan withdrawal.

So I did an article for Town Hall and I talked about it on different news programs when

the withdrawal was going south.

And precision in language reflects precision in thought, as you know.

And the Department of Defense means something different than the Department of War, just from

a language perspective.

Defense is defense.

The Department of War is a Department of War.

So I made that case in

this article that I wrote back in 2021.

And now we're doing it.

I think it's really smart.

It is smart, but also if you read

the statement on it, it's not permanent.

So if you really go into the verbiage in that, it's very deliberate in there.

So another administration coming in.

So now we're just calling it the Department of War, but I believe, and someone can correct me in the comments section here, but I believe that it does take an act of Congress to officially change this forever going forward.

Now they're calling it the Department of War.

So if you look at the language, it's very specific.

You're calling it the Department of War, but it's not yet really the Department of War.

I have to tell you, it is so, we are in such a weird place to where

we swing.

So far one direction and then the next administration just swing all the way back.

You can't run a country like that.

I mean, you know, we can't run a country like China either, where they have absolute control of everything, but they can think, you know, 20, 50, 100 years in the future.

That's how they become successful.

We have to think two years in the future.

But we used to be together on more stuff.

Now,

you switch administration, go to the other side, and it's not the same country.

No, and it's certainly the phones that we carry around in our pockets are not helping matters at all, especially for this next generation.

My son's generation, my son that you met in Salt Lake this last year, he's doing wonderful.

He wanted me to say hi to you.

And I really appreciate you being so kind to him when you met, but it's his generation, really.

And our daughter's a little bit older.

Charlie Kirk, our son, was coming up to me all the time and showed me those videos.

My wife and I would be sitting on the couch and he was at 12, 13, 14, showing me these videos.

And he just had such this connection with Charlie Kirk and that message.

And that's the generation.

That was a tough one because he was away at school and I didn't get to him in time to tell him, hey, don't look at your phone.

Don't watch this video.

And so both him and my daughter saw it.

My daughter was about 10 feet away.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah.

Just

so sorry.

Horrible.

Horrible.

And she's

most, well, second most sensitive child in the four.

I mean, it's happening to all of

our kids because they felt, even if you didn't know him, they felt they knew him.

They did.

You know, because he was so genuine and real.

Yeah, they really did.

And it wasn't like the JFK assassination where you're seeing something in the paper.

You're hearing Walter Cronkite talk about it on the news.

We didn't get the Zapruder film until years later.

For us, Challenger, watching that, you didn't see people.

You saw an object explode in the sky and you were devastated just by that.

And now you have someone you feel that you

know

get killed right in front of you and essentially in high definition.

And just one so brutal and so heartbreaking, but it also has really galvanized, it's changed a generation, I think, also, and bringing a lot of people back to the church, us included.

That's amazing.

It really is incredible to see.

It's amazing to me.

I was just talking to some friends.

It's so appropriate that Christ was a carpenter

because I've always thought of my life, you know, before I really turned over to him as just

I was building my house and I wanted to be a helpful guy.

You know, I wanted to be involved in building the house.

I should not be involved.

I have no skills.

And we had a pile of wood and needed to be cut.

And I was like, you know what?

Let me help.

I'm going to just cut this wood.

Okay, Mr.

Beck.

And so I measure, I measure twice, I cut it, and they take it, and they take it back in the house, and I keep cutting.

And I run out of wood.

And I said, well,

you have any more wood or anything?

And I said, looked at me and said,

now it's your money.

So whatever you want to do, we're all for.

But everything you've cut, we've had to recut or toss away.

And I was like, well, you guys should have said something before I cut all of the wood.

But anyway, you're having such a good time.

Right.

And with my life, I feel like I cut all of this wood and none of it was usable, you know, because I just.

destroyed my own life and none of it was usable.

And then I turned myself over to God and I had all this crappy pile of wood and he took it and made something

beyond what I could have ever done.

And there was not even any sawdust.

There's no waste with him.

And you're seeing it happen with Charlie's death.

Look at what has been born out of that.

I mean, I would never want that to happen and he didn't want it to happen.

But how he can take the very worst things and make something glorious is amazing.

It's incredible to see that impact.

And I guess that is the one consolation is that the impact that he has in death is probably

more impactful generationally than what he had in life even.

And he had a huge one in life.

Huge one in life.

This one will last.

This one will last and last and last.

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He has the new book, Terminalist series, Cry Havoc.

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Jack Carr is with us.

You know, my son was a voracious reader.

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By the time he was 14 and he got a phone, that just went out the window.

And it was

horrific to me.

Trying to get him to pick up a book now is, and nobody does it.

I'm hoping that audiobooks are kind of the gateway drug back to reading.

Because you hear about something through this medium or podcast and someone's taking that in that way, and then it makes it very natural to then get the book that they're hearing about through that same medium.

So, I'm hoping the audiobooks are a gateway drug to get people to read again and to build their libraries.

A lot of people are doing both now.

I see that they're getting the book, and they're getting the audio book, and they're reading at home, and then they're listening, and then they pick it back up and go back and forth.

So, that's that's pretty good.

I have to tell you, reading a book on a tablet or a phone is not the same.

I mean, I read a lot for work,

and I can

see it, and I'll know where it is in the book you know what I mean generally speaking I'll know where it is in the book but if I look for a fact and I've read it on my tablet I have no idea how to find it nope I'm with you I need the physical book yeah and reading it now is an act of defiance really it's an act of it's uh it's a now if you're a rebel and so if you pull out that phone instead of pulling out or pulling out a book instead of pulling out a phone like you're a rebel today and it's an act of defiance against the digital tyranny of the uh of the the the silicon valley overlords essentially so i'm doing everything i can to encourage people to read there There was an article, I think, in the Washington Post about a month ago that talked about the stats and how I think it is about 2003 we start seeing this severe drop-off and then to 2025 now it's just off a cliff as far as reading goes and that of course corresponds with the rise of iPhones and apps and social media and all the rest of it.

So all of these things that are essentially designed to keep us from reading, to keep us enraged, to divide us and only help out maybe one political party or the other and certainly the companies in Silicon Valley, but certainly not us.

It doesn't make you a better citizen.

It doesn't make you a better person, a better husband, a better father.

Reading can do all that, especially fiction.

A lot of people out there say they just read nonfiction, especially in New York and California.

They like to be a little snooty about it.

But what you get from reading fiction is you get this empathy and this compassion because you're experiencing this story through someone else's eyes.

So you're putting yourself into their shoes, into their boots, into their moccasins, and you're experiencing this, which then becomes part of your experience.

So if you don't read fiction and all you're doing is Joom scrolling on your phone, or maybe you're just reading some nonfiction for school or something like that, but you're not reading the fiction side, then you're really missing out on this development of compassion.

And we see it in people's interaction with one another in person and online.

We're losing that compassion and that empathy for our fellow human beings.

And fiction is one way to develop that.

And that's why it's so vitally important to read.

I'll tell you,

I read a quote from Thomas Jefferson recently, and I kind of changed it up.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but social media.

Oh, that's

He said it about newspapers, but I think it's social media

and interesting.

I really like the way you're talking about that as a gateway drug.

It's very often how I discover books.

Like I'll hear an interview with someone like yourself, and you listen to an interview, and that gets you into the audiobook, which is almost like a

really fully produced, perfectly written podcast, right?

And then from there, you want the detail and you pick up the actual book and you read it and go into a whole series.

So we're kind of like the marijuana of reading.

That's us.

That's great.

Thank you for that.

I'm very fortunate to have Ray Porter as my narrator who is

great.

The best.

I think he hates me because I've asked him to read several of my books and that is like, no, no response.

No response.

Like, I didn't get that message.

What are you talking about?

Put a good word in for you.

Oh, he is.

He's a Shakespearean-trained actor, so he really does.

Nobody better than he does.

So he's a great human being, too.

Really, really kind person.

I'm glad to hear that.

He's fantastic.

I'm glad to hear that.

He's fantastic.

Wow, then I am listening to the audiobook because

I have listened to books that he did without knowing anything at all about the book just to listen to him.

Yeah, people follow him around.

Oh, he is so good.

He's going around from project to project.

It's fat.

And I didn't know that when I picked him.

I picked him specifically for his voice, having no idea that he was at the top of the narration port.

Oh, my God.

And he said yes to doing that first book, and now we're dear friends.

And the first book was up for audiobook of the year.

And so we got to put on the tuxes and go to New York and have some drinks together and hang out and get to know each other.

and he's just a wonderful please tell him I'm such a huge fan he I just admire what he does

fantastic just

tremendous tremendous talent Jack Carr's new book it's part of the Terminalist series the Terminalist series Cry Havoc it came out on

yesterday

and it's available wherever you get your books get the audio book get the paper book and we'll look for it

on screen someday

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We were just talking about the crypto millionaires and billionaires.

How many more millionaires are there?

70,000 new millionaires this year.

70,000 because of cryptocurrency.

70,000.

That's a massive change to society, isn't it?

Massive change.

Massive change, which is crazy.

And then you look at how many are, you know, 100 millionaires, billionaires.

I mean, and these are, you know,

you said at one point when we were talking about it about how,

you know, libertarians, these guys who actually believe in, you know, free market and small, you know, small government.

They're going to get all this stuff where you're buying pizza, you know, for a 30 cent cryptocurrency.

And if it works, they're going to be millionaires and billionaires, and they will then have the power, the power to change things.

And look at, that is what happened.

That is what happened.

Yeah.

I mean, you think about all the big names that

have chested our society, who've spent a lot of money on politics, who have advocated for those things.

A lot of them were very early on the cryptocurrency.

Elon Musk.

Yeah.

Peter Thiel.

Yeah.

Mark Andreessen.

Yeah.

And Glenn Beck.

No, well, you weren't, you actually talked to those people, but then then you.

They all advised me.

You should go, Glenn.

I'm telling you, put $10,000 in it now.

It's like 30 cents.

You should put 10,000.

Nah, I know better than you guys.

Oh, what a dope.

Yeah, you could say that again.

For right.

You had a whole monologue on that.

It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

And we all did it because I got back on the air.

I told you what they said to me.

You did.

You did.

You talked about it on the air.

I did.

That we should do it.

And none of us did.

People did not do anything.

No, we didn't do anything.

We did not do.

Even if you did invest, I definitely didn't invest enough.

Oh, my gosh.

You could imagine.

It was life-changing.

It was right there.

And we think about that as, okay, it was so early, right?

Like, I mean, who would have been able?

No, understandable, you didn't invest when it was 30 cents or whatever it was at that time.

You know, during COVID,

it was under $4,000.

You're kidding me.

Yeah, like that.

In March 2020, I think it hit 3,800.

And now it's 122,000.

That's just Bitcoin, obviously.

There's different stories for all the different cryptocurrencies, but Bitcoin being kind of the king of them all.

That was an available opportunity really recently, only five years ago.

How did you say 170,000 new millionaires?

The number I saw was 70,000, but 70,000.

70,000.

When is the last time 70,000 millionaires were cryptocurrency?

It's kind of printed.

Just printed.

And by the way, every time it goes down by 10%, the articles are like, oh, these people.

Look at at these hilarious.

These crypto people are losing their money again.

Yeah.

I don't know if you've noticed the chart.

Yeah.

Kind of looks like it's mostly up.

Yes, there are peaks and valleys occasionally.

But

let's change to where everybody lives, and that is healthcare costs.

You wouldn't be worrying about this if we all would have bought it at 30 cents.

But

so I know you're doing a monologue today on

what this cut

actually is, what the Democrats are saying.

They're cutting it.

No, they're getting rid of the COVID bailout.

Don't say it that way.

I don't want you to say it that way.

I'd rather have you say it like

enhanced subsidies.

Can you say that phrase?

That sounds much better.

Yeah, I know it does, but enhanced subsidies.

Enhancing them, making them better.

When you enhance something, it's better, Glenn.

Well, we don't have jobs.

Nobody was who's working, everything else.

People are like worried about how am I going to pay for the health care.

So the government said, Here, we're going to subsidize you until we get past this.

We said at the time, don't do that because it'll never go away.

And here we are.

It's not going away.

So they're not, this is not, this is not Obamacare.

This was the emergency bailout from COVID.

Yeah.

And now they're just expecting that that's going to happen forever.

One way to think about it is what the Democrats are asking for.

So what happened was

there was

an enhancement to the subsidies during the COVID.

And this was during actually early Biden administration.

The American Recovery Act was the first one, if I'm remembering right.

And then it was the Inflation Reduction Act.

So the American Recovery Act comes in and it says, hey, here's a bunch of extra money to pay for your Obamacare.

And that gets put in there.

But with an expiration date, because as we all know, We're in the middle of a pandemic, and this is going to be over soon, and it'll go away.

That's how we all agree on it.

Then comes the Inflation Reduction Act, and the Inflation Reduction Act, even though we're way after, at this point, the COVID situation by

nobody was allowed to read that one.

That extended the enhanced subsidies to 2025, which is what is now expiring and what they're now complaining about.

So now they've said, well, we have these things, and every liberal article will tell you, every left-wing publication, every mainstream publication will say, this is what's going to happen to your rates if this goes away.

The thing they're complaining about, this catastrophic hellhole, this awful, awful scenario that could come to fruition if Republicans hold their ground, what they're talking about is Obamacare as passed.

That's what they're talking about, Obamacare.

It's like,

you know, the enhanced subsidies are new Coke and they're going back to classic Coke.

This is the thing they passed and they said would solve all your problems with healthcare.

This is the stuff that we said, actually, it's not going to be affordable at all.

It's going to be terrible for people.

What they want to go back to is their solution.

Is their solution.

That's the thing they're warning you that they can't.

We cannot go back to that.

That would be the worst thing in the world if we go back to that.

That Obamacare, that's what it is.

That's what they're talking about.

They're talking about just getting rid of the COVID-enhanced subsidies.

Like, it's like, if you remember back in the day, they're like, put your mask on.

You can't, you got to sit six feet away from everybody.

Remember all those measures they put on?

They were supposed to expire.

And every once in a while, you see someone walking around with like an N95 mask outdoors.

You're like, God, remember that?

That's what these subsidies are.

They were supposed to be this temporary thing in this horrible moment that gets you through this tough time.

And now, of course, they're acting like it's the way it's always been.

And this is their crazy left-wing program built on top of their crazy left-wing program.

So here's the thing.

I'm not hearing anybody explain it that way.

Why isn't anyone explaining it that way?

The GOP, it just sucks.

All they're saying is, well, you know, illegal immigrants are going to get healthcare.

And like, look, that is part of this.

Yes.

But like, I don't know.

To me, it's a smaller part of it.

Like, the fact that they want to do this and they're acting like their own savior program is

some sort of free market

catastrophe.

So

let me tell you who's going to win in the Republican, unfortunately, who's going to win in the public space on this.

And it's Marjorie Taylor Greene.

And yeah, she's going to win with the populace.

She's going to win.

This is the winning message for her.

Okay.

Not for the GOP, not for her principles, not for her.

She seems to be aligned with the left on this, no?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, so let me just read this.

Known for her strong alignment with President Donald Trump, described the ACA, Obamacare, as a scam that rendered health insurance unaffordable for her family during the passage, but signaled willingness to support extending subsidies to prevent premiums from doubling on Americans.

She said, Quote, I was not in Congress when all this Obamacare Affordable Care Act BS started.

I got here in 2021.

As a matter of fact, the ACA made health insurance unaffordable for my family after it was passed with skyrocketing premiums higher than our house payment.

Let's just say this as nicely as possible.

I'm not a fan, but I'm not going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year, my own adult children insurance premiums for 2026 will double along with all of the other wonderful families and hardworking people in my district.

Not a single Republican, this is the key, and this is actually the key to put her back into a place of

consistency and principles.

Not a single Republican in leadership has talked to us about or has given us a plan to help Americans deal with their health insurance premiums doubling.

And then she goes into how we're sending money overseas and all these wars and everything else.

I mean,

she sounds like a leftist here.

Our country does all we do is fund foreign countries and foreign wars, never does anything to help the American people.

That's also pretty consistent with an America-first

thing.

Yeah, but the whole thing with the Obamacare, I am going to give more money.

Okay.

That to me is what's going to speak to the average person in America who's not following this and is like, my insurance is going to double.

The premium is going to double.

How am I going to afford that?

They don't care about how that came in.

They probably don't even know how it came in.

None of that.

I was talking to Dr.

Oz last week and

we were talking about, I can't remember what, and I said, when are we going to stop all this insurance scam with these states and saying you can't sell insurance across state lines i said that would solve so much of the problem

and he just lit up like a candle big smile and he's like i love talking to you this is why i love you so much and i said what and he said we are just doing that now he said we're doing it on a state-by-state basis we're we're going to offer them a a program uh for Medicare.

We'll help them on Medicare and Medicaid, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But they won't get any of that money that has been allocated for the states.

They won't get it unless they take the laws down that stop interstate commerce for the insurance companies.

That will make a huge difference in premiums.

Just that alone.

When you massively increase competition, it usually does.

Well, the president knows that this was coming.

Everybody, Rush Vote knew this was coming.

Why we didn't have great, it is going to double because it's garbage.

It always has been.

Even the Washington Post this week did an op-ed.

The Washington Post said it was never any good.

It would never work.

We all knew this, that it wouldn't work.

It's a horrible plan.

And it wasn't some conservative op-ed.

This was the editorial board of the Washington Post.

I mean, it was stunning what they admitted finally.

They sounded like, you know, me and you in 2009

and admitted the truth.

Okay, so we all know the truth now, except for the average person who's not paying attention, just paying the premiums, can't afford their health care.

This administration, if you want,

when Oz told me that, I was filled with hope.

Oh my gosh, we're going back to a free market system.

Maybe, maybe we'll have a free market system.

That's a great step forward.

Why didn't the Republicans, when this happened, why are they not standing in front of everybody right now saying the truth about Obamacare?

It was garbage from the beginning.

We got to get government out of this.

We are going to take down the barriers state by state.

We're going to streamline the system.

We're going to take all of this regulation out that makes your insurance premium shoot through the roof.

We're going to let the free market work.

Why aren't they offering something?

Because it allows Marjorie Taylor Greene to go and say, we got to bail out Obamacare.

Otherwise, people are going to, you know, they're not going to be able to afford anything.

And everybody will look at that who is struggling.

Millions are struggling now.

And they'll go, I'm sorry.

I know my principles, but I can't afford health care.

Why is the Republican?

Why are they not offering anything?

Anything except compromise?

It's such a fascinating thing.

I think this is the story of being a conservative for everybody their entire lives as conservatives, right?

Like it always the easier political answer to appeal to the most people is just to give a bunch of money away, right?

This would appeal to people.

You would have a chance to say, look, it's harder, though, to never point out.

In this particular,

if you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene's like list of complaints there, they're probably different than some of the lefts.

But the answer kind of winds up being in the same general vicinity, which is give a bunch of money away, which is always going to be the easy political answer, right?

But that's not what conservatism is about.

But you don't have, all you have is the argument, We'll pay you.

The other side is, we're not going to help you.

Yeah, you can't have both.

You're going to lose.

Yeah, you got to help.

You can't lose.

You got to have to win.

We need that money because we're going to bail you out.

And the other side needs to be, no, that doesn't work.

We're going to fix it the right way, which will save you all of this money.

But, you know, just standing there saying, nope, we're not going to give the money, that's not a winning argument.

It's just not.

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I hate to bring this up,

but I'm just I look up to CNBC and I want you to look up.

This is the woman is speaking.

She is the IMF managing director on AI bubble fears.

Okay.

Now we talked about the AI bubble.

You know, there's seven companies.

The whole stock market is built now on seven AI companies that are doing really well.

Yeah, 60% of the gains are from only seven companies.

That's not good.

And if this is a bubble, they pop and the whole thing goes down.

Yeah.

But

A, she looks like somebody that should be telling me about the Julia Childs cookbook or something.

Is that what she does?

And she is also with the IMF.

When did we let the IMF start to, you know, over do oversight on bubbles?

And what the hell are you doing with bubbles that is going to make it better?

I mean, I just have so many questions.

I just turn off CNBC because I don't want to look at it.

It's too frightening.

You look up and you're like, oh, these are the people solving everything.

Oh, that's going to be good.

It does feel, though, like, at least if you're going to get really terrible economic news, someone who could hand you a seven-layer bar, like a baked, with some baked goods

to kind of make it feel better.

I never thought about this.

Maybe, maybe CNBC should start to smell like a baked pie.

You know what I mean?

So you're like, oh, wow, it's like home.

I feel good here watching the IMF managing our stock market.

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