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I've got a lot on my plate today.

It is October 7th.

We're going to talk about that.

The abandoning of federal agents in Chicago, that's on our slate.

The Democratic Party, not one person in the Democratic Party calling on the Attorney General candidate in Virginia to withdraw because of his statements on killing a Republican, his wife, and his children, and then when questioned about it, doubling down, saying, saying yeah there's a lot more that should die doubling it down again a third time saying only when people you know feel personal pain do they change their views

this is just another signpost on the road to hell that started with the guillotines at Occupy Wall Street and nobody paid attention and they we thought came to a head with Charlie Kirk but they haven't I want to talk to you about death cults.

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I shouldn't say America, what sets the West apart from the rest of the world is we don't like death cults.

And it comes from the Bible.

Choose life.

As they're going into the promised land, choose life.

That's what sets us apart.

That's what has defined us.

We choose to heal our enemies.

We don't ever leave somebody behind on our battlefields because choosing life is our highest value.

But I don't know if that's...

I don't know if we're still those people anymore.

And if you lose that one thing, that life is sacred,

then you've lost the West because you have no, that, that is the basic fundamental

principle.

Choose life.

So let me start with a simple definition so we don't get lost in labels because I want to talk, I believe we are dealing with a death cult.

And in social science terms, that means any movement that one, sanctifies violence or death as a legitimate political tool, and two,

celebrates the destruction of perceived enemies.

And three,

disciplines members to accept moral blind spots because the end is framed as absolute and transcendent.

That's the

dictionary definition.

And it's not rhetorical flare.

It's transcendent.

It's a pattern.

Dehumanize the other, normalize harm, close off any kind of dissent, and reward those who cross the moral line.

Have you seen that?

How do you spot it?

Well, death cults first glorify killing or harm.

You see public celebrations of enemy slaughter, not just private outrage, but public celebrations.

So let me show you a few of these.

Let's start with October 7th.

October 7th, 2023, Hamas attacks and kills roughly 1,200 Israelis.

There are reports, and I've actually seen the footage of people in Gaza, you have to, celebrating in the streets.

taking dead bodies, dragging them in the streets, and beating them.

Do you want to live in a society like that?

I don't.

Now that moment is now a public fact and

it's in the historic record of that war.

When Hamas went in and they killed women, men, and babies, raped women while torturing them and killing them,

setting babies on fire, we all saw this and stood arm in arm against it.

When we heard the phone call from the one kid, the Hamas guy, who went in and was killing women and children and then was so proud of it, he called his mother.

Do you remember this?

Hi, Dad.

I'm talking to you from Israel.

What's up, Adam?

You're going to see

I killed them with my own hands.

Your son in Israel.

Dad,

may God protect you.

I'm talking to you from a Jewish woman's house.

I killed her.

I killed her with my own hands.

I killed 10 with my own hands.

Dad, 10 with my own hands.

Look at the WhatsApp app.

You'll see how many I killed.

I'm calling you on WhatsApp.

Dad, I'm in Israel.

Dad, I killed 10.

10.

10 with my own hands.

Their blood is on my hands.

Put mom on the phone.

Mom says, oh, my son, God bless you.

I killed 10 with my own hands, mom.

Okay?

There is no middle ground on that.

That is either absolutely right or horrifically wrong.

Choose life.

Two years ago on October 7th, we said, that's horrific.

Now,

things have changed.

And let me just say this: you don't have to believe the Israelis are right in the way they're handling this.

Okay?

You can say, I disagree with the Israelis in the way they're handling it.

I think they're doing really horrible things.

You could say that.

But what's happening is people are starting to say that,

as well as, that's why I'm with Hamas.

Wait a minute.

You can say both sides are bad, but that's not what's happening.

The more the Israelis try to stop the legitimate death cult that is Hamas, the more the love for Hamas seems to grow.

You know, you can be on the side of life and against both sides in this conflict, but that's not happening.

The ends justify the means, it seems.

Hamas, because we don't like Israelis, Hamas

was justified in setting babies on fire.

That's a death cult.

If you are now finding yourself in that position where you're finding more in common with Hamas,

not the cause,

Hamas,

the taking of

hostages,

and you're excusing any of that.

You're in a death cult

because that's what Hamas is.

Death cults reward glee

at an opponent's death.

Now, let's look at that.

Let's just look at what's happening in our country.

We've seen the social media celebrations

That came from Israel.

Called from Israel to Gaza.

So now we've heard that and we find that horrific.

What is the difference between that and this with Charlie Kirk?

There are a lot of people that are like, no matter what side of politics you're on, you should never celebrate something bad happening to someone.

I, on the other hand, do cheer when bad things happen to bad people.

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The glee is the same.

The death is the same.

Ritual celebration of death.

That is a cultural marker.

That is a signpost.

Death cults also tolerate or excuse violent rhetoric from authorities.

Let's go to Virginia now on that story.

In the Virginia Attorney General race,

we have

really violent, vile messages from one of the candidates, the Democratic candidate, and the public statements that followed, including the condemnations and, in some quarters, guarded defenses or tactical silence.

Silence from institutions or parties in the face of violent rhetoric is itself action.

Do you remember what Bonhoeffer said?

Silence in the face of evil is evil itself.

Silence is action because it signals what your group will tolerate.

So,

what happened?

What's happening now?

I want to kill the Republican, his wife, and children.

No, no, I can double down on that.

There's others I'd kill, and then I'd piss all over their graves.

I'd send them out with glee.

If I have Pol Pot, Hitler, and a Republican, and I only have two bullets, the Republican gets two bullets in the head every time.

You're comparing Pol Pot

and Adolf Hitler to a Republican for Virginia that most of us have never even heard of.

And you're saying he gets two bullets in the head.

And it is silent.

No one on the Democratic side is saying, you must step down.

This is abhorrent.

The silence

is action.

It is an endorsement.

You can say, well, I don't agree with that.

That's not good enough.

This is a cultural marker.

You are creating, through your silence or your actions, you are creating a society that I don't think even you want to live in in the end.

Death cults also take sacred things

and they shift that sacred language and they justify and celebrate harm.

Do you remember the phrase safe, legal, and rare?

That was abortion.

Safe, legal, and rare.

It's where most people could agree.

The Democrats used to say it all the time.

We want abortion to be legal, but we want it to be safe, legal, and rare.

But now,

the deliberate ending of life

is something to be cheered on and to be ritualized.

Safe, legal, and rare?

No, no.

Now shout your abortion.

Be proud of your abortion.

How many abortions have you had?

That's a death cult.

The cultural norms

that we all used to agree on, the celebration of death, that's changing.

And the change is measurable in the way we talk to each other, campaigns, social media norms.

This is deadly

to a society that its cornerstone is choose life.

Let me ask you this.

Do we have the video of leaving Afghanistan?

Here's the video.

of us getting out of Afghanistan

and the plane on the tarmac and all of these people who supported the United States, who were our allies.

These are not terrorists.

These were people who saved us.

They're holding on to the plane as it takes off.

Some of them get into the wheel well, and we watched them drop from the sky.

Do we have anything from Biden saying how it was fine?

There's somebody dropping from the sky

as they take off.

And then Biden says, it's fine.

Listen.

I made a commitment to the American people when I ran for president that I would bring America's military involvement in Afghanistan to an end.

While it's been hard and messy, and yes, far from perfect,

I've honored that commitment.

Far from perfect.

They went on later to say that

it was good.

What?

Why were you offended by that?

Do you remember when it happened?

Why was every American offended by that?

Because we left people behind.

It was dishonorable.

We sensed our honor

was at stake here.

We had never seen our country

on tape doing anything like that.

And we instinctively, all of us, knew that's wrong.

But then as it went on, it became political.

And so we all started to say, well, our side wouldn't have done that.

Yeah, well, our side didn't do that.

You're lying about what happened.

You saw it right there.

Why do I bring that one up?

Because again, we left people behind.

That violates choose

life.

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So we left people behind and we felt our honor slipping through our fingers.

Let me play some audio that happened in Chicago this week.

Federal agents.

No, no, sorry, not this.

Sorry.

I want the

call

from dispatch, please.

All right, and 999 just took in from

39th place in Kessey.

They were saying that they were being surrounded by that large crowd, and they were requesting the police for not sending.

I'm calling, waving off all the cars heading to 39th place in Kesie.

Again, those are the orders we're being given.

Okay, 10-4.

And again, for all the units that we called to go over that way, 39th Place in Kessey, if you could just hold off 9-11, 9-13,

9-23, 9-24.

Stop.

This was the second time she asked.

Okay.

She said they're surrounded.

The order was given, we're not going in.

So wait, play the very beginning of that again.

Listen, what she says at the very beginning.

All right, and 999 just to confirm 39th place in Kesby.

They were saying that they were being surrounded by that large crowd, and they were requesting the police were not sending.

I'm calling, waving off all the cars heading to 39th place in Kesby.

Just to confirm.

just to confirm, they were surrounded.

And I'm supposed to tell everybody, go away?

Yes.

Death cult.

Now, this doesn't, this doesn't, none of this proves that people are on the side of a death cult.

Facts don't do guilt by association.

But the pattern here is very clear.

This is

proof positive that your country is at stake.

No, that Western civilization is at stake because we have taken the cornerstone of Western civilization, choose life,

and we are destroying it every single day.

Choose life

every time and do not be silent about it.

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I feel compelled to tell you today that if your church, your synagogue,

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helping you deal and navigate through the waters today and showing you how the Bible actually

is the answer to the things that you're dealing with in real life every day, you need to go find another church or synagogue.

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The truth right now is the most controversial thing you can say.

A man is a man.

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The problem is we keep conflating all of these problems with politics.

And that's the problem.

I want you to just for a second

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You don't have to like Donald Trump to see the danger we're now in.

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the idea of America, not the flag waving, the idea that man can rule himself, that we do not have a king or a dictator or a cabal of people that run things there is no master government serves us

we are in charge of government not the other way around that's that's that's the american dream that's what makes us different

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that the scales of justice must stay balanced.

I have told you from the first day, you know, after 9-11 when things got serious, I stand with the Constitution.

Anyone who violates the Constitution, I will stand against.

And I am a hawk on that.

If the story that I'm about to tell you is true, and so far all signs point that it is, then something has gone very, very

wrong in our Constitutional Republic.

The FBI under this administration secretly obtained the phone records of nine Republican lawmakers.

Sorry, not this administration, the former administration.

They've released it.

Trump has just released it.

They have the phone records of nine Republican lawmakers, eight sitting U.S.

senators.

They were not suspected terrorists.

They're not foreign spies.

They're elected officials.

They're public servants.

They work for you.

People who work to represent millions of people just like you.

And the FBI had a secret investigation that we have now just found out, and all of the documents are there.

It was called Arctic Frost.

The Bureau said this is about election integrity.

But we now know that it swept up elective representatives, all from one party, without anybody's knowledge.

Now, this is not 1972.

We're not talking about a couple of thugs that broke into a file cabinet at Watergate.

This is much

bigger than Watergate.

And I want anybody who disagrees with Donald Trump to ask themselves:

the documents are here.

If this was Donald Trump doing this,

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Why will you not join my voice with this?

We're talking about digital surveillance, invisible, vast, far more powerful than a hidden microphone in the Watergate building.

Chuck Grassley said it's arguably worse than Watergate and he's right because this time the government did not just

spy on its political enemies from a smoky back room in DC in a hotel.

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Now, if you have been told all your life that the real danger only comes from the right, that corruption, dishonesty, abuse of power is exclusive to conservatives, then I'm asking you to pause and to look again because the documents have just been released.

When one side can weaponize the justice system

and the other side cheers it on, justice dies for everyone.

And it makes people who now want to say, but look what they did,

they feel justified to get revenge.

Well, if they're doing it, then we can do it.

And that leads all of us to hell.

Then we're all in trouble.

People have been defending James Comey and saying, you know, that this is just a political hit job by Donald Trump.

No, it is not.

Again, look at the facts.

He was accused of lying to Congress.

It's not political persecution.

When a grand jury recommends charges, that's not politics.

That's the process.

That's how our system is supposed to work.

Now he goes to trial.

That doesn't make him guilty,

but it does mean he has to face the same standard of justice as you or I would.

In America, no one is supposed to be above the law.

Not Donald Trump, not James Comey, not Joe Biden or Hunter Biden, not anyone sitting in the White House today or yesterday.

Because in America, no one is above the law.

Now we have candidates, one running for Attorney General in Virginia, who openly flirt with violent rhetoric, and the media yawns.

They call it, quote, colorful language.

Quote, that's just politics.

No, it's not.

When threats and intimidation become normal, when justice becomes selective, When the press decides who's innocent and who's guilty before the evidence is even in, the Republic begins to rot from within.

So many people, so many of our neighbors are just exhausted and they've tuned everything out because it all sounds like noise.

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That's what people say to themselves.

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But when documents are

produced and prove the truth, there is no argument.

And the truth still does matter.

If you want a civil society, justice still matters.

And whether you voted for Trump or can't stand him, whether you think Biden was a saint or a disappointment, none of that matters.

What matters is, do we still believe in equal justice under the law?

Because if we lose that, we lose the promise of America itself.

And you will get a dictator on the left or the right.

So I'm asking you, not as a conservative or a liberal, but as an American, do not look away from this story.

This is

worse than Watergate.

What happened in Watergate?

We had all kinds of hearings, not to get the president.

We had all kinds of hearings to make sure that never happened again.

I can't tell you how many private conversations I have had with senators

who have said to me, whispered in my ear, they're monitoring everything I do and say.

No senator should ever feel that.

No Republican, no Democrat, no Independent, no communist, no one should ever feel that way in America.

But that will only stop when we demand fairness,

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What will happen is

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And what does that do to the machine?

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It means next time it could be you.

If you don't punish whichever side is doing it,

what happens?

If you don't, if Democrats don't tell the AG in Virginia, this is unacceptable and we do not tolerate that at all,

what happens next?

Stop dealing with what's happening now.

Look over the horizon.

What does that mean for tomorrow?

Justice can never be partisan.

Never.

Truth must never depend on who's in office.

And America, this beautiful, fragile idea,

will only survive if both sides refuse to let

blindness

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King, whether whether you like it or not, we are in this together.

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Chicago Mayor, right-wing, wants a Civil War rematch.

I really don't.

No, we're all set on that one.

Yeah, I'm set.

Slavery was wrong.

I think we were on the right side, too.

Chicago, I was on your side, I think.

I don't know what side you're on anymore because you're abandoning our police officers.

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Their resistance against a...

I would, wouldn't it be refreshing if Chicago ramped up their resistance to crime?

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Maybe we should do a war on crime in Chicago.

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Okay.

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Is that a possibility?

Could you maybe not get your your citizens killed constantly?

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Or are you cool with all of that?

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It is October 7th, and it's appropriate to have Dinesh D'Souza on today.

He has a new film out that you must see.

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How are you?

Glenn, it's a great pleasure.

Thanks for having me.

Oh, you are more than welcome.

I watched your film last week, and I got to tell you,

it's frightening and really powerful.

Well, we begin, Glenn, as you know, with putting kind of the viewer on a motorcycle with a GoPro, and you ride with Hamas into the kibbutzes.

Hamas took this footage remarkably.

Not a lot of people have seen it.

The Israel government, I think, was reluctant to show it, except to a handful of journalists.

But it opens my film, and it has a bit of a graphic warning, but it's 10 minutes of putting you right on the scene of October 7, two years ago.

And the film kind of takes off from there to give you the widest significance.

It engages politics, but history, archaeology, and even, as you mentioned, a hint of biblical prophecy so that the political is wedded to the moral and the spiritual.

So, let me play a trailer here from the movie.

Here it is: So, who are the Jews?

Who are the Palestinians?

And whose land is it really?

Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?

The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.

So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?

The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy attacking attacking a woman representing Israel.

The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.

Mastered everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.

We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life, and we're going to keep it.

The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.

Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.

So let us

go to the dragon's prophecy here for a second.

What is the case of the dragon's prophecy?

Glenn, in the book of Revelation 12, there is a depiction of a dragon representing the devil going to war against a woman representing Israel, and the woman is pregnant representing the Messiah.

So this is the sort of spiritual backdrop.

It's a confirmation of what people sometimes say, that underneath our political fights, there is a spiritual war.

But people don't often ask who's fighting, like who are the combatants?

And the answer is, this is a war that has been raging between sort of God and the devil from the very beginning of time.

And a provocative idea in the film is that the devil cannot overthrow God.

And so the devil tries to find out what is it that God cares about?

Let me ruin that.

So in Genesis 1, for example, why does the serpent target Adam and Eve?

Adam and Eve have done nothing to the devil, but the devil goes, I want to ruin them because this is God's cherished creation.

If I can ruin them, I get my revenge against God.

And I think for the same reason, the devil targets the Jews and the Christians.

The Jews, because they are the original chosen people.

And so the devil's agenda is really simple.

Drive them out of their ancestral homeland from the river to the sea and also put a big Islamic victory arch right on top of their holiest site which was the site of the Solomonic temple and then of course the Christians are the Bible itself refers to Christians as like spiritual Israelites and so the devil is like I hate them too I will I will persecute and harass and destroy the Christians no less than the Jews and look this is not just sort of idle biblical speculations you can see this happening right in front of us in the world today.

Talk to me about the meaning of the word Hamas,

Palestinians, where that came from.

You take us through that a little bit.

Yeah, this is the genius of Jonathan Kahn in his book, The Dragon's Prophecy.

He points out that Hamas in Arabic means something like force or strength.

But in Hebrew, interestingly,

the word means violence and destruction.

And if you read the Bible in Hebrew, it literally says things like, Lord, save me from the men of Hamas, or Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth.

I had to go to my Bible to look it up.

It does say that.

It does say that.

It's crazy.

Yes.

Not only that, Glenn, but the four colors of the apocalypse mentioned in the book of Revelation, you know, which reflect famine and death and destruction, the white horse, the black horse, the green horse, the red horse.

And

Jan points out, he goes, just take a look at the Palestinian flag.

It's made up of four colors, basically white for the white horse, red for the red horse, black for the black horse, green for the green horse.

And all of this, I think, you know, if there's a single connection, you can be like, hmm, I don't know.

But there are so many of these connections teased out in the film that ultimately it's almost like you have to sort of you have to step back and reconsider if you are even understanding what's happening in front of you in the widest and sort of deepest possible light.

I have to tell you, I don't know about, you know,

I haven't studied this, you know, enough.

I just watched the movie once, and it's worth watching.

But you will go back to scriptures and you will look it up.

It is worth pondering because it shows you where we might be right now

and the battle that we're preparing for, which is a really terrifying thing, but I'd rather know it so I can be prepared for it.

You also,

you know, did a lot of archaeological stuff.

What stood out to you in the research that you did?

What stood out to me, Glenn, is this.

For 2,000 years and even more, there are figures that appear in the Bible: Pontius, Pilate, Isaiah, Jeremiah, going further back, King David.

We're talking now about 1,000 B.C., so 3,000 years ago.

And even 30 or 40 years ago, if you said, prove to me that these figures are real, prove to me outside the Bible using historical or archaeological evidence, you couldn't do it.

Remarkably, just in the last few decades, there are inscriptions and stones and clay seals coming out of the ground that are showing that these biblical figures are real.

The Bible is

an account of real people and true events.

So you can dispute the theology of the Bible, you can question the miracles, but the historicity of the Bible is being resoundingly affirmed.

And it's almost as if as the world has become more secular and pulled away from God, God is speaking back, but not in the thunderous language of Genesis 1.

You know, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, but rather in the kind of prosaic language of science and archaeology.

Yeah, it was really amazing because, you know, you don't think, we live in our time.

And so you don't think about the times that have come.

David didn't exist.

You know, these stories aren't true.

They didn't exist.

And now we're finding all of the archaeological evidence.

And we just, at least I did, I just accepted that, yeah, the big things we knew existed.

No, no, we didn't.

It's now just being proven now because of what we're finding in archaeological digs.

Not only only that, but for centuries, really for two centuries, going back to the Enlightenment, you'd have these armchair critics who would read the Bible and say, well, you know, it

looks to me like this was written several hundred years later.

But now we know that that can't be the case because there are

minor figures in the Bible.

You know, the royal steward of King Josiah in like the sixth or seventh century BC.

And suddenly a seal comes out of the ground in Jerusalem and there is his name on the seal.

Now, nobody 300 years later, this is like asking for the names of interns who worked for Donald Trump, you know, hundreds of years from now.

Who would possibly know their names and identities?

So this is why the Bible is being affirmed even at the level of excruciating detail.

The fact that everybody said Pontius Pilate didn't exist and the stare that has his name carved into it 2,000 years ago that was discovered.

It's those things that you're like, I mean, how do you deny some of this stuff now?

I mean, it's just piling up.

It's utterly impossible.

And then, you know, we are in Jerusalem and we go up to this place called Shiloh in the middle part of Israel,

and we find these remarkable red heifers.

Now, I'd been reading a book about the red heifers.

This has to do with the fact that in the end times, the

dome of the rock will come down, the Jewish temple, the Solomonic temple will be rebuilt, and some of the rabbis are actually preparing for temple services, which involve the ashes of a red heifer.

So, all of this isn't just like Bible, you know, interpretation.

You have people in Jerusalem and in Israel actually preparing for this in a practical way.

And in fact, one of the things that they said, let me take a break and then have you come back and answer this.

One of the things that we said, because we were talking about the red heifers two years ago, and they were talking about maybe making, you know, red heifer into ashes to prepare.

And

Hamas said at the time that's one of the reasons why they went after on October 7th was because of the red heifers.

And you go into that and

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So tell me about the red heifer and what Hamas said about it and what they call October 7th.

So the red heifers go back to the time of Moses and Aaron.

Apparently, red heifers were sacrificed in the ancient tabernacle, which preceded the first temple, And nine of those red heifers were sacrificed.

So it evidently is biblically very significant when the tenth red heifer is going to be sacrificed.

So in any event, apparently these red heifers were flown on American airlines in the cargo compartment from Texas to Israel.

And they're there now.

They're very rare.

But go ahead.

They're extremely rare because they have to fulfill all these biblical criteria.

But in any event,

Hamas specifically referred to the red heifers and referred to the rebuilding of the temple.

And also very interestingly, in the actual dragon's prophecy in the book of Revelation,

the Bible describes the dragon unleashing a flood

to sort of drown and swallow up the woman.

It's part of his sort of wartime strategy

against the woman.

And amazingly,

when Hamas had to give a name to October 7th, they call it Operation Tufan.

And the word Tufan means, you guessed it, flood.

So this is

the biblical parallels here.

It's not just a matter of looking forward, but I think part of what Jonathan Kahn does is he looks backward and he shows the way in which the battle between Israel and Hamas is an eerie recreation of battles between the ancient Israelites and their classic enemies called the Philistines.

Not just that the name Philistine and the name Palestine is the same, which it is, but the tactics are the same.

And if I can give the example of Samson, who is a biblical hero, he represents the strength of Israel.

Samson is captured by the Philistines.

They blind him in much the same way Israel was blinded on October 7th.

The Bible says they drag him where?

To Gaza.

The Philistines controlled what we now call the Gaza Strip.

And the Bible says the people of Gaza demanded, bring out Samson so he can entertain us.

Sure enough, after October 7th, hostages were stripped to the waist, paraded out, and the people of Gaza are chanting and celebrating Allahu Akbar.

And Jonathan Kahn makes the very startling observation in the film that Samson 3,000 years ago was kind of the first hostage of Gaza.

Can I

want to ask you, I want to switch topics topics here a bit.

And, you know, there is a thing that is happening in churches and on the right now that, you know, are starting to deny that Jesus was a Jew.

And they are cutting

religion.

They're cutting.

They're saying that

Judaism isn't a real religion.

And

Hebrew scriptures were not the only thing that Jesus knew.

And the next generation doesn't seem to be,

seem to care about the connection between the Jews and the Christians.

And they're trying to cut them apart.

And that just seems really bad and very dangerous.

It's very bad.

It is being presented as a kind of internecine debate between covenant theology and replacement theology.

But it's really not that at all.

It's, I think, an attempt to replace Christianity itself.

And what I mean by that is that in Christianity, I'm talking about the mainstream Christianity shared across denominations going back 2,000 years.

The very simple idea is that God made very specific promises to Abraham.

There was an old covenant.

The old covenant was fulfilled in the new covenant.

Jesus himself, of course, was a Jew, preached in synagogues, preached out of the Torah.

There was, of course, no New Testament.

And by the way, there was an early meeting between the Apostle Paul and the rest of the apostles, and they had an argument about to what degree the Gentiles or the new Christians should, quote, become Jews.

And the answer was very simple and was settled in the book of Acts.

Basically, it was decided that the Gentiles don't have to keep the Sabbath.

They don't have to be circumcised.

They don't have to follow some of the Jewish dietary rituals.

But guess what?

They had to continue to revere Abraham.

They had to revere Moses.

They had to study the Exodus.

They had to adopt the Ten Commandments.

One God.

One God, the Hebrew prophets.

So imagine kicking all that out from under you.

You kick out the Old Testament.

You've basically knocked out the foundation of Christianity itself.

So I'm quite disturbed, both at a political and a theological level, at this kind of outrageous distortion, not just of political reality, but of Christianity itself.

I have to tell you, what you just said is so critical.

That's where the Germans took the Christians.

They got rid of the Old Testament, did everything they could to it, and before you knew it, churches had replaced the crucifix on the altar with

a picture of Hitler.

That's what happens when you start dismantling all of this stuff.

And it is so dangerous.

And I was so happy to see, I've talked about it several times, but I don't think anybody has done it justice like you did in this film.

The connection between Hamas Hezbollah and Adolf Hitler.

It is stark and stunning if you don't know it.

And you will see it in the movie, The Dragon's Prophecy, the latest from Dinesh D'Souza.

Where can we see this, Dinesh?

Glenn, it's in theaters one more day tomorrow, which is Wednesday, October 8th.

And then on the 9th, the very next day, it's in streaming and DVD.

All tickets from the website, thedragons,

plural, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.

So buy theater tickets there, and also that's a place to sign up for streaming and DVDs: thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.

It is well worth your time.

You should watch it.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

You know, we have been talking about this really, really

horrific

email exchange with Jay Jones, where he thinks he's writing to somebody, and then he realizes halfway through he's writing to somebody else, but it doesn't change.

He keeps doubling down and doubling down, talking about you know how when republicans go to their funeral i'll piss on their grave send them out a wash um you know you line up three people you ride up uh gilbert which is a a um a republican in virginia uh hitler and pole pot and you only have two bullets

gilbert he said gets two every time i mean that's just insanity um and then he uh says you know do i think that he and his wife are raising little fascists Yes, I do.

And, you know, people only change their political point of view when they feel pain.

And he had a chance.

The person on the text thread was saying, don't say these things.

What are you doing?

This makes me very uncomfortable.

And he just kept doubling down on it.

And

people are not asking for his resignation.

I mean.

Sane people are, but the Democratic Party is not asking for him to bow out of this race, which he absolutely should.

The guy he's running against is Jason Miares, and he is with us now.

Jason, how are you?

I'm great, Glenn.

Thanks so much for having me.

Why is it dangerous to have a man who says these kinds of things and has said others almost or just as bad in the past on other things?

Why is it bad to have him as the attorney general, the chief law enforcer in the state?

Well, listen, you know, I'm the current attorney general and my job is one of my main jobs i say i'm the people's protector but that means protecting everyone whether they're republican democrat or independent and my job is to work to stop violence i can't imagine somebody who's applying for this job to be someone that has advocated for violence and for your listeners understand the context of this he started his text messages because he was upset that republicans had said nice things in memory of a democratic delegate that had recently passed away at their funeral.

He was upset at this.

He said he wanted to piss on the graves of his political opponents and obviously said he wanted to put two bullets in the head of Todd Gilbert.

But I think probably the most shocking, again, to your point, he was told this was inappropriate.

He doubled down and that's when he fantasized and wanted to, you know, talked about seeing the children.

of Todd Gilbert die in the arms of Jennifer Gilbert, his wife.

And what's so upsetting for me, Glenn, before I was elected Attorney General, I served in the House of Delegates with Jay and with Todd.

He knows Jennifer.

He knows Todd's children.

At the time that these text messages were sent, they were two and five years old.

Todd would bring his kids to the assembly.

This was not a hypothetical.

This was not an imaginary person.

He's met her before.

He's met and seen the children on the floor before.

For him to say these things, and in his words, when she says, you are talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die, that's what he was texted by his colleague, his response was, yes.

I've told you before, only when people feel pain personally do they move on from policy.

Glenn,

in my office in Richmond, I have a quote from Thomas Jefferson that I see every day when I walk into my office, and it is this, I have never found the difference of opinion.

in politics, philosophy, or religion as cause to withdraw from a friend.

It's just a minder that even if I disagree with somebody politically, it doesn't mean I'm going to withdraw friendships for them.

I can't imagine the mindset that my opponent has that he may disagree with somebody politically and he would want to see two bullets put in their head and then fantasize about seeing children die in their mother's arms.

That is a dark place one must be coming from.

And he's certainly, I think, in my opinion, to completely disqualify from serving as Attorney General.

I mean, I made the point earlier today because it is October 7th.

Isn't this the same kind of thing that had the Palestinians out on the streets celebrating when they brought the dead or the hostages back into Gaza on October 7th?

Isn't this the same?

This is, you know, maybe a few train stops before that, but this is what breeds that.

You cannot celebrate

the death of an opponent like that and wish death on their children

because

you stay on that train and it becomes October 7th.

Well, I mean, listen, we a long time ago in this country decided we were going to settle debate at the ballot box and not with bullets.

And, you know, the Miara's name, my family, fled Cuba.

And they saw what it is in a society where ultimately when ideas matter more than individual dignity, ideas matter more than people and their individual rights, when you don't view them as even human beings, they view them as, I guess, political pawns, that is a dangerous, slippery slope to go on.

And

that is what that is, the political violence will destroy a society.

That's why I have always condemned it in any form whatsoever.

I have never asked a victim when I met with a crime victim, whether they're Republican or Democrat, whether they liked me or disliked me, whether they voted for me or against me.

That's not my mindset.

My mindset in this office is I'm the top prosecutor in the state.

And what that tells me is my opponent has never actually met with victims.

He wants to be the top prosecutor in the state.

He's never been a prosecutor a day in his life.

But

when you've actually met with victims as I have, Glenn, that have lost children, they've lost a child, there's no cry like the cry of a mother that has lost a child, none.

And that sticks with you.

You don't talk about it in this type of language.

And so, you know, he clearly has a very, very different mindset.

He wants to use this office,

I just assume now, as a sword against his political enemies, or I view it as an office to be a shield to protect Virginians, regardless of their political affiliation.

It is a very different mindset, and

I think it's a test for Virginia.

It's now no longer right versus left in Virginia.

This election is about, in my opinion, a right versus wrong and a basic standard of decency we should expect.

One of the things I think is being undersold about all these text messages is not just that he was wishing violence, but the reason he was wishing violence on his opponents.

He wanted them to feel personal pain to change their policy, to change their politics, to change who they are.

What does someone with that mindset, what does it mean to have the responsibilities of the chief law enforcement officer of a state?

Well, I know when I swore, when I took my oath of allegiance, when I got sworn into this office, it was not to any political party or to a governor or to any president.

It was to faithfully execute the laws of the state of Virginia and to defend the U.S.

and Virginia Constitution.

That's my mindset.

That is a very, very different mindset.

And at this time where political violence has emerged, where we saw what happened in Utah with Charlie Kirk's murder,

I think that's given us all pause because Charlie was not assassinated.

because he had political power.

He was a private citizen.

He wasn't a governor or mayor.

He didn't write laws or sign them into effect.

He was silenced because some people thought his ideas and his political views are so abhorrent that he should no longer exist.

That is something that would shun you in polite company.

Think about it.

If Jay Jones was applying for a job with your media company or a job to be a line attorney in the Attorney General's office here or to be in the cabinet of a governor, right?

And this emerged.

I would argue you probably want to get a job with you, Glenn, and you sure sec want to get a job as a line attorney.

Why would we want to elevate him to be in this position of authority?

I do think this is a defining moment for us in Virginia.

I mean, if

you know, our attorney general, who I really like here in Texas, if he would have said something like this, he wouldn't be in

my front

waiting area.

I would personally go out and say, you're not welcome in this building anymore.

What is wrong with you?

And are you shocked that

woman running for governor with the Democrats?

Yeah, has not

not really come out.

I mean, has any Democrat come out and condemned and said, this must stop and you should step down?

A single Democrat.

You've had a few liberal columnists that have said this is beyond the pale.

He shouldn't be in the race.

But to right now, they're either dead silence or this sense of we condemn the text messages.

It's not acceptable.

And

Jay Jones should be held accountable for this.

But they don't say what that means.

And by all accounts, they're continuing the campaign.

And

think about Abigail Spanberger asked for Ralph Northam to step down as the governor of Virginia over a blackface from 30 years ago.

Wait, wait, wait.

As of now, you're breaking up.

I'm sorry, but

Abigail Spanberger asked Ralph Northam to step down as governor of Virginia over the blackface scandal from a yearbook photo from 25, 30 years ago, but is not willing to tell him to step down over text messages he sent just two plus years ago over a sitting member and their family and their children.

I think that says a lot about where we are.

And again, if Jay Jones was applying to be in our cabinet and it came out, he wouldn't be confirmed.

But somehow, because power matters more than people, and that is a slippery slope in our country when politics and power, wielding power, matters more.

than decency and people.

And I do think this is now that test.

I am a bit shocked, but candidly, we have the chairman, the chairwoman of the largest school board in the Richmond metro area, Chesterfield County.

It's our largest suburb of Richmond, who tweeted out after the Charlie Kirk assassination, I thought we're supposed to cheer when Nazis get shot.

She's still in office.

She has not resigned.

This is the person that helps oversee the instructions of our children.

And so you have seen this level of violence that is excused.

But Glenn, I think of a red letter date for me in modern American history was December 4th, 2024.

That is the date that Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare, was murdered in broad daylight.

And it wasn't the fact murders happen almost every day in New York.

It was the fact that when you look at the polling afterwards, 48% of America's college students said that murder was justified.

That should shock everyone.

And I remember when I saw that, I said, we are in a different place in America, that we now have a segment of society that is somehow excusing violence.

In this case, against a private citizen, a business exec, because they didn't like how he's running his company.

And now we saw what happened with Charlie Kirk, and now we have this individual now running that is advocated for, you know, pissing on the graves of his opponents and putting two bullets in the head of his political opponent and imagining their children dying in their mother's arms.

I mean, that is a stage where we are.

And at some point, you have to say enough is enough.

And if your listeners want to say enough is enough, they can go with standwithjason.com.

Because I know that now Virginia, I think this election, we're in the shadow of our nation's capital, is, I think, a real test for us as a country whether we are now going to say no to this type of rhetoric and to those that have fantasized about this type of violence.

I will tell you, I think it is you're right about good versus evil, not left versus right.

And I think this is a very big test.

If Virginia, especially with all of the churches that are there, if they're not getting out to vote and say no

to this um

i i don't i don't think you survive as a society in virginia i think that this is a vote that says we choose life or we choose death uh and once you choose death and choose to tolerate this kind of stuff especially for just political reasons I don't know how you can be helped, you know, spiritually.

I don't know how you can find protection spiritually if that's what you're choosing.

So, I well, we, yeah, I work.

Listen, I wear it too.

We talk about it in Virginia.

We have something we call the Virginia Way, which is the idea of basic civility in our political discourse.

I think Virginia Way is on the ballot.

To your point, Glenn, I'm a person of faith.

I think everybody I meet, no matter who they are, no matter what their political opinion is, I think they have amazing value because they're made an image of their creator.

They're an image-bearer.

And that's my mindset.

That's the mindset I've had as

Attorney General.

And I will just kind of end with this.

A wise Marine once told me that if you go to Arlington National Cemetery and you walk among those crosses and those stars of David, there's not an R or a D next to anyone's name.

And to never forget that someone that thinks differently than you politically has given the last full measure of devotion to this country.

It is a great mindset.

That's at least the mindset I have tried to bring as Attorney General.

And obviously, Jay Jones has a very different worldview.

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He was just in Taiwan, and he sat down with everybody in Taiwan, and he is quite concerned that China is preparing for an invasion of Taiwan.

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Buck Sexton, welcome to the program.

How was your trip overseas?

Oh, Glenn, it was incredible, but it was sobering.

I actually just left the Pentagon.

I don't know if you knew, Glenn, that you were going to be training the next generation of leadership for the Trump administration when you started the Blaze.

But if you start to look around at the FTORG chart,

they're all Blaze alumni.

Yeah, the young cubs that you brought in when you started the blaze are kind of running the government.

It's pretty amazing.

It is.

I don't know if that's a good thing, but I think it is.

Yeah, I do.

Well,

I think it's definitely better than the old team.

We can agree on that.

Amen.

So, look, the situation in Taiwan has never been more serious.

And I thought that you in particular, Glenn, would just

seize upon the reality here of a China that is arming up.

And I know people have seen these stories for years about problems in the South China Sea or problems in the Strait of Taiwan.

But the cutoff in contact that has occurred in the last few years, the cutoff in trade, in travel between Taiwan and China, the arming up of China that's going on.

Taiwan is gearing up itself for the defense of its island.

And I met with the president, the vice president, their National Security Council, spoke to TSMC, which is a very important, it's a Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company.

Critical technology for the entire world.

I mean, they make 90% of the high-end chips that we need for our phones, for our cars, and certainly for the AI future that we're entering right now.

And Glenn, the Chinese are getting ready for this, and Xi Jinping has said it's coming in 2027, and Taiwan is saying, you guys got to give us the tools, and we'll defend ourselves.

Are we giving them the tools?

The answer is yes, but at what speed?

It's remarkable to see, I think, the change in their society.

And they want to be very clear about this.

They, meaning the government, and look, part of why I think they wanted me to come over and speak to everybody is they realize that not only is speaking to CNN International not going to get the decision makers in this administration interested.

It's probably a negative, right?

Probably going in the wrong direction.

So they want people like you and me and our friend Sean Hannity and others to look at this issue, understand it, and present it to the American people because it affects us in very real ways.

The problem right now is our manufacturing capacity for the weapons that they want to buy, and they're very clear about this, they want to buy them.

They're not asking for any handouts, is strained in large part because of Ukraine.

So you're starting to see that our military industrial capacity for just providing the tools to allies, the weapons to allies they need to defend themselves, is already at a bit of a breaking point.

And China knows that, and they are ramping up their shipbuilding, shipbuilding, their missile building, everything at a capacity that has honestly never been seen before.

So I, you know, I have talked to several people about Taiwan.

There is no, we don't have the supply chain to actually go in and, you know, fight a war in defense of Taiwan.

It's just, it's impossible.

I'm very concerned about what's happening in South Korea.

That thing is being given to the Chinese.

We are about to lose a massive ally there.

It's gone authoritarian.

They're wresting pastors and everything else there.

Go ahead.

No, I was going to say this is all part of China is not in danger of invasion or military incursion from anybody else.

So the breakneck speed at which they are building out their military, and I mean even in the last few years, I mean, this is relative even to what we've seen in China in the past, this is truly unprecedented.

And they're doing this for purpose.

And the purpose is, obviously, an invasion of Taiwan in the next few years, could be sooner, we don't know, but also beyond that to project into the beyond the first, into the second island chain.

And they want to dominate the Pacific Ocean.

I mean, this is all part of the long-term strategy, and they're playing this thing out.

And look, Trump is very aware of this.

He's got his negotiation, trade negotiation going on with Taiwan.

He's got big negotiations that are going to be happening with China.

But I just think the American people should be aware of what a massive, I mean, we're talking about trillions of dollars of wealth that would evaporate from markets overnight at the beginning of an invasion of Taiwan.

Never mind that China would be able to seize the most sensitive and important technology in the world right now, which is advanced semiconductor manufacturing, done by TSMC, as I mentioned, and others.

Can I say something controversial?

I hope that we actually

have convinced Taiwan or we have a plan of destroying those labs should there be an invasion of Taiwan.

We cannot let those chip manufacturers fall into the hands of China.

Can't.

This is absolutely correct, and it's a point that was hit on over and over, which is if you think that the Chinese are going to be dominating us based on military output and capacity in that theater of operations, just wait until they control the chips.

And this is, again,

I feel like it's very important to separate this from Ukraine, which is more of a

argument about sovereignty and human rights and things like that.

In this case,

the thing that you rely on in your life that is high-tech, all the chips in your car, China would control them and control the supply of them.

We simply cannot allow them to have that level of influence over global markets.

So the best option here, as I see it, is prevent a conflict by doing everything possible to arm up the Taiwanese.

They have an all-of-the-above defense initiative, a sort of deep societal resilience program, Glenn, where they're saying everyone is going to have to get in on this.

Now, I did talk to them about maybe a little 2A, like how about you guys arm up your population?

They're not into that.

I think that's a mistake, but certainly in terms of keeping the power on military and medical assistance, things of that nature, they're telling their civilian population to gear up for this.

So this is something that's going to get only hotter in time.

I think the flashpoint is reaching

the unavoidable reality that the status quo is going to be shaken up here.

And I know the Trump administration is looking closely at it, but I want everyone else to be paying attention to what's going on in this part of the world because it is the single area where we could have the biggest

military flag.

You mentioned South Korea, North Korea.

And South Koreans are pretty armed up for that, I got to say, and we already have a base there.

Taiwan, I think, is a place where China views it as ripe for the taking, increasingly.

It's Hong Kong.

And we've got to stop that.

Yeah, it's Hong Kong.

The minute we're distracted, they'll take it.

Somebody said to me, I got a briefing on Taiwan about two years ago, and they said, Taiwan, China can't take Taiwan yet because they don't have the landing craft.

It's going to take them about three years before they're really ready to go.

That was a year and a half ago.

I don't know if that timeline still holds, but

I wonder,

I think when we see a war in Taiwan, it is not going to be like a war that we have ever seen before.

I mean, just watch their drone shows alone.

They're going to be overwhelmed with drones that you would just never be able to defend against.

Well, this is where what we've seen, and again, this is a big part of my discussions over there and the interviews that I did.

Ukraine is really a proving ground for this new form of warfare.

Whatever one thinks about that situation politically, the pace of drone innovation that is going on in that country is remarkable.

It's incredible to see that they're able to do this as quickly as they are.

And really what we're going to see, Glenn, is drones and AI and innovation are going to be a much bigger part of military readiness and military capability than we've ever seen before.

I actually toured a boat manufacturer where, guess what?

They're doing autonomous

suicide speed boats that explode, essentially.

And this is increasingly what the future is going to look like in terms of defense capability over there.

So, AI, drones, tech, it's going to be a whole different kind of war if this war kicks off.

And if they take Taiwan, then they have the chips that we need to be able to defend ourselves.

Is there any work being being done in a realistic way to get

that kind of clean room and ability over here in the United States?

So we can.

This is where Trump and his team are absolutely on it.

They're pushing

TSMC, which is the company I keep bringing up.

It's basically a trillion-dollar market cap.

It's one of the 10 most valuable companies in the world based out of Taiwan.

And they're the ones that make 50% of global chips, 90% of the high-end chips.

They've opened a huge facility in Arizona, and I think they're getting close to being able to do 30% of their manufacturing capacity in Arizona, and they're looking to ramp that up.

But this kind of stuff is...

I mean, Glenn, the level of sophistication that this technology, it's like one ten thousandth of a human hair in width, some of the things that they're doing on these chips.

It's like magic.

It's hard to understand if you're not in that industry with the things they're doing.

So you can't, you know, it's not like you get a U-Haul, you pack it up and you say, let's set up next door.

So

there is this initiative to do more of it here stateside, but you also got to see it from their perspective.

They realize, hey, this is kind of our golden goose in all respects.

It's what's made this country economically such a force.

But it also means that we cannot ignore, and to be clear, the Trump administration is not ignoring it, but we cannot ignore what happens there because if there is an invasion of Taiwan, everybody, you know, you want to talk your 401k, your markets, and also all the supply chain you rely on, it is in a crisis mode immediately.

Buck, how far away do you think we are from a crisis like this should it happen?

For me, the big question is, will Xi wait until post-Trump presidency?

And I think that a lot of people believe.

So would Xi Jinping, the Premier of China, hold off?

I tend to think that he's not going to to want to tangle with Trump on this one.

I think he's savvy enough to know that that's probably a bad idea.

However, there are some caveats there.

One is, well, I don't think he's going to wait so that then he can have, let's say, a J.D.

Vance, maybe Marco Rubio administration.

That's not going to be any better for him.

So there's a bit of a gamble or a calculation there.

And then also, this is, it reminds me, Glenn, of the Tom Clancy book, A Dead of Honor.

I was a big Tom Clancy guy back in the day, and it's probably why, yeah, he's amazing.

It's probably why I joined the CIA because I read the Tom Clancy books.

And in Dead of Honor, the Japanese, actually, a nationalist Japanese ultra-nationalist regime, seizes back Guam and some islands, and they do it so quickly that their pitch is, hey, guys, I know you're upset about this, but we can just stop right now and we'll make it up to you.

And, you know, no big deal was kind of the way that it's phrased in the book.

I think that China is hoping that they can do a blitzkrieg where they get a surrender so quickly and they're able to overrun Taiwan's defenses so rapidly that the U.S.

isn't even able to respond if we choose to do so.

We still have this strategic ambiguity.

And that's where the calculations get really, really challenging because the U.S.

isn't pre-positioned to be able to deploy military force.

If Taiwan surrenders...

That's probably ball game.

So

it's tough to war game this one.

It is,

you know what really concerns me is another COVID-style event.

Some big could happen in our economy, could be a 2008 kind of crash, anything that takes the Americans'

attention away from the world.

We saw this happen during COVID.

Remember those millions of people that were in the streets of Hong Kong?

Then COVID happened and all of them were disappeared?

China just marched in and did it.

And I fear that kind of an event.

Yeah, well, Hong Kong is unfortunately viewed as a harbinger of things to come for Taiwan.

Hong Kong has been consumed by the communist beast.

I mean, the CCP has managed to break covenants, no surprise.

They're commies.

They lie.

They cheat.

They steal.

I actually

had a sit-down with somebody who is the right-hand man to...

the publisher of Apple Daily, you know, who is the biggest newspaper in Hong Kong.

He's been in prison for, I think, six years now.

So they have completely stamped out freedom.

And the way that people in Taiwan who have spent time in Hong Kong describe it is the eradication of hope.

And that has happened in Hong Kong.

And they don't want that to happen in Taiwan.

But China

is.

Buck, you really, I'd love to sit down and talk to you about South Korea because that same thing is happening in South Korea right now.

It's coming fast in South Korea, and it's China-run.

So thank you for bringing me up to speed on this.

You back on the air today?

Yeah, I'll be back on back on noon Eastern.

And Glenn, I always appreciate you knowing that when there's a story I got to hit, you're right there with me and you support it.

Thank you so much.

You bet.

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And gold broke $4,000 an ounce.

That's double, I believe, in the last 18 months.

Something that everybody said was lunacy, lunacy.

And Goldman Sachs came out today and said they're projecting $5,000 an ounce.

I have said since 2008,

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It means everything is on fire.

And I'm not seeing, I haven't seen a single story today on watching all of the cable news shows, not one talking about gold.

Hmm.

Yeah, that's shocking.

Like 4,000 is kind of a big deal.

Kind of, kind of a big deal.

Carol Roth tweeted this earlier today.

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dollar in global financial order.

Today, gold is $4,000.

And, you know, people haven't noticed really as well.

We've had one of the worst runs for the dollar in decades over the past few months.

This is all happening because of the shutdown.

It is.

Well, it's been before the shutdown.

I I know, no, no, I know that.

But I mean, things right now, this extra little spike, this push

is happening because of the shutdown.

People are losing confidence in our government that we can get it together.

They are thinking if we do get it together, what we're going to do is we're just going to come back together and we're going to spend all that money anyway.

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This is not a good signal.

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that I wish I could visually show you.

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I just don't know how.

That's probably not a thing.

No, there's a lot of challenges.

And they're big and they're daunting.

We mentioned something like 60% of the stock market gains come from seven

companies.

Seven companies.

Just seven.

All AI and tech companies.

Seven companies.

Imagine if AI and tech kind of takes a hit.

Let's say, oh, I don't know, Taiwan.

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I feel impressed to say to you that it is important

to remember that October 7th is Amazon Prime Day.

You can get great specials on Amazon today.

You know, they might want to have picked another day, maybe the 8th, the 6th, I don't know, the 7th, kind of, it's like, hey, September 11th,

you can get great specials and marshals all day.

What?

It is really weird.

It is.

Because I think for a few years after September 11th, I remember like no one would do anything on September 11th, especially something happy.

And then I think now, though, you know, movies come out and like, there's no acknowledgement anymore.

It's been enough time.

October 7th was two years ago.

Two.

Now, it's not an American, I mean, it is an American event, by the way, of course.

It didn't happen in America, but American hostages and American citizens were murdered.

So it very much has a lot to do with America.

But like the companies today, I've noticed October 7th, Prime Day.

I think it is October 7th and 8th, technically, for Prime Day, but it was kind of weird.

Big promotion over that.

I saw Tesla is making a big announcement.

And like, you know, they have this big crowd.

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And it just ends on 10-7.

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And then there was a parachute in for savings.

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Bad.

Then there was the LeBron James announcement, part two.

So like he did famously, as I know, you'll remember, he announced he was going to the Miami Heat with an announcement.

And it was this big dramatic thing they put on ESPN.

He's like, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.

It was, you know, kind of a big deal at the time.

So he did, they, they had this big announcement, part two, coming October 7th.

And it's like, is he going to invade Israel?

Like, what's about to happen?

You don't know.

No.

You don't know.

By the way, that announcement did come out.

He's partnering with Hennessy, an alcohol purveyor for some new LeBron alcohol.

Makes sense.

Makes sense.

Wow.

Thanks for that big tease.

But it is a little strange.

It is happening all the time.

Let's not forget, it was two years ago.

And we sat through.

And one of the biggest mistakes I think Israel made, and I understand why they did it, because of the families and everybody was like, please, the families don't want this out.

But we sat through, what was it, an hour, hour and a half?

I did not sit through it.

I intentionally did not sit through it.

It was,

it was 90 minutes, hour, hour and a half of all Hamas videos.

And

I think everybody should have been, I think everybody,

because if you, if you, if, I mean, you remember, you just didn't see it, but you remember what they did to people.

And my question is, and I started the show with this today, you don't have to like Israel.

You don't have to support Israel.

But why are you suddenly supporting Hamas?

I don't like Israel.

They're a genocide.

That's why I'm with Hamas.

What are you talking about?

You could say, I don't like either side.

I think both sides are bad.

You don't side with Hamas, but that's what's happening.

Yeah, and some explicitly, right?

Like I think there's a whole Hamas

you know, part of Congress that is just like pro-Hamas, I would argue.

Yeah.

But I think

maybe less explicitly, you have a group of people that are, while not saying, hey, I love iHeart October 7th, which, by the way, I do believe some people in Congress do.

I do, I agree.

I do believe certain mayoral candidates

in large cities do.

You don't mean New York.

No, he released a statement.

It was a four-paragraph statement, and a good half of one paragraph was very upset about what happened October 7th.

And then it was a bunch of stuff about how bad Jews were, which is a weird way of phrasing an October 7th message, but whatever.

I mean, not if you lived in the 1930s.

Right.

That's true.

He would beat an excellent mayor of Nuremberg.

Anyway, so

the

incident with

October 7th, as far as Hamas support,

you have to understand this event

from Hamas's perspective on October 7th, two years ago.

Their goal was not to go and kill a bunch of Jews.

Not their goal at all.

Well, it was

a fun sight of Israel to their goal.

They enjoyed it, as we've heard on the phone calls earlier today.

Their goal, though, was not to kill a bunch of Jews.

It certainly was not overtake Israel in some sort of,

you haven't to call it a coup, considering it's inside the country, but like some sort of military victory.

They're going to beat the Israeli military.

Their goal was to create

an incident that was so terrible and so horrific that Israel would have no choice but to do what they've done.

And then they knew that all of these countries, all of the media, all of these people around the world would would turn against Israel.

This was their goal.

And what countries like

Britain and France and all these countries that have come to me like, we're now recognizing Palestinian statehood.

They're giving them exactly what their goal was

on day one.

Now, their Long-term goal, I suppose, is every Jew to be wiped off the face of the planet.

And they're not quite there yet, but they have made incredible

progress to that goal

thanks to a bunch of these Western countries and Western media and people like Greta Thunberg.

Well, wait, you know, it's not just it's it, I mean,

I don't want to just say that it's people like that.

It is people who are in college and in the streets with the Palestinian flags being funded by Hamas-loving organizations

and knowing what they're saying.

River to the sea.

That's why the blue stripe is on the Israeli flag at the top and the bottom and the star in the middle.

That's Israel.

River on the top, sea on the bottom.

That's all of it.

So if you want to wipe out Israel, that's what you mean by that.

And, you know, I just don't, you know, it's like, what would Jesus do?

Well, I don't know if Jesus would side with the way Israel was, you know, conducting this war.

Probably not.

But I know he wouldn't have also been with Hamas.

No, yeah, I mean, it's like kind of like if you're, you know, you're trying to be a decent human being, you don't have to take the Israeli side.

Just notice who you're standing with.

Notice what you're standing with.

And how about hold

the one side of this

battle responsible for what they're doing?

Remember, we have a deal already.

This deal.

Both Trump and Netanyahu have already agreed.

And so has the rest of the Middle East.

Yeah.

And so, by the way, a bunch of Arab countries that have jumped in here and said, yes, we will do this.

We will come in.

Again, people are saying, oh, Israel's not giving anything up.

Think about what Israel is saying.

All these countries that used to attack them every three years, right?

They're saying, come on in and oversee this area inside of our borders.

We'll let you take it.

Please.

Take my wife, please.

They're at that point in the relationship, and they've agreed to this.

And what Hamas needs to do is give up hostages.

And they won't do it.

And yet, Israel is the one that won't end this war.

It's a fascinating, it's so revealing.

Well, almost everything on

the side of evil, I think, is just, I don't know how people don't see it.

Like the flotilla.

Let's go back to the flotilla.

Oh, that's funded by Hamas.

It's funded by all the people who are funding all of these, you know,

college Hamas supporting events.

And they all float down there.

First of all, Flotilla is just a joke.

Just the name of...

We're doing a Flotilla.

Are you?

Are you?

Are you?

Okay, well, that's going to make a big deal.

Last time they were there, they just turned around.

Get out.

Yeah,

they come down, they broadcast that they're coming.

They all tweet and make videos about it.

Then they,

as of course, what's going to happen is Israel is going to stop them and take them in and put them on boats and hand them sandwiches like they did last time.

And then they bring them in and they, and then

Greta last time,

you know, she made this big deal about it.

And then she got handed sandwiches and got caught smiling on camera at the delicious looking sandwich.

So now this time, she pre-recorded a video saying she had been taken hostage

before she left on the flotilla and then released it and said, If you are seeing this video, I've been taken hostage by Israel.

You gotta be kidding me.

Yeah.

And then what happens?

They take them in the country,

they process them, and then they throw them on a plane, they send them back to their countries, and they're greeted as like heroes and liberators when they get home.

Like they've done something.

They accomplished nothing except to get people to talk about them.

I've been taken hostage.

I've been taken hostage.

Unbelievable.

And you have to love how seamlessly Greta just was able.

I mean,

I'm not a fan, but you got to recognize the game here.

She was able to just absolutely like jump into the, get the spotlight on the climate thing.

And as soon as

the energy ran out on that one, she's over to the I don't like Jews thing.

I mean, she's really just like,

she's hitting every left-wing talking point.

I can't wait to see soon.

She will be a pro-abortion person, and that'll, she'll do that for a while, and she'll skip on over to, I don't know, wasting your money on bridges to nothing.

I don't know what she'll do, but I like her.

She'll hit them all.

Because she's still very young.

She's working the circuit.

She's very young.

Yeah.

And really, like, what's the shelf like an activist?

I know.

I don't know if anybody really likes her.

They did at the beginning.

Yeah.

The last kid in the media loved her.

She was 12.

Yeah.

And she's like, oh, this cute little kid skips school.

It's like, I used to skip school all the time.

No one gave me any attention for it.

But this cute little kid skipped school for the climate, which, by the way, did I, I can't remember.

Did it solve the climate crisis?

Are we out of that?

We're out of the way.

No, no, no.

So now we're out of the Jew crisis, apparently, which I know they've tried to solve that one a couple of times, too.

We should take up trying to solve it.

We should take some of the polar bears that we have so many of and send them to Israel.

Oh, my gosh, that's a great solution.

That would be.

Now we have an overpopulation of polar bears, you know, because none of that was true either.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

Doing a couple things with Turning Point.

This Thursday, I am up in North Dakota, and I invite you to join me.

I'm going to be filling in for Charlie Kirk, which is a really daunting task, but it is happening this Thursday, 6.30 at the University of North Dakota.

Tickets can be found at theturningpointtour.com.

First come, first serve.

Hope to see you there.

It's a big, big stadium.

So

I hope people come.

Actually,

maybe I don't.

You know what I mean?

Maybe it'd just be like a couple of people that are like, I don't, I mean,

I don't even know who you are.

And,

you know, so it would be a really, I could skate.

That might be, that might be pretty good.

But turning pointtour.com, theturningpoint tour.com.

That is this Thursday, University of North Dakota.

Then next week with Turning Point, it's Charlie Kirk's birthday, and I will be in Utah at the state capitol, where Turning Point is doing something for him at the state capitol.

So I'll be speaking there as well.

Other than that, I mean, they're in the middle of doing a big turnout operation for this New Jersey election right now.

And it's interesting.

They're using a lot of the same tactics they were able to use to make Pennsylvania success in the presidential election 2024.

Obviously, Charlie not around anymore, but Charlie lining a five-year plan.

Five-year plan.

Five years.

And a lot of incredible things that had already been utilized and developed and were in the middle of being developed.

So it's I honestly think it's going to be a tough road in New Jersey, even though the polling's pretty, it's closer than you'd think it might be.

But, you know, New Jersey is never a particularly friendly state for Republicans.

But it'll be interesting to see how that one turns out.

And then Virginia, we talked a lot about the that.

How do you think that's going to turn out?

I kind of feel like Jay Jones might lose slash,

you know, be stepped down in some way.

Like, I feel like I don't know that the gubernator race is going to turn out the way I want it to.

She's great.

Yeah.

She's fabulous.

I think, though, you know, that's a blue state.

And I think we like to think of it as a purple state because Blood Young's in.

And it really is,

it's not a bright blue.

It's not Rhode Island.

It's not Vermont, but it is a light blue state.

And I think...

Churches, wake up, churches.

I think in times like this, where again, while President, I think, has done a lot of good things, he's not particularly popular with Democrats, as many people have noticed.

And his favorability rating in states like Virginia is not particularly strong.

I mean, I really think this election is a turning point for Virginia.

I really do.

I think if you choose death, which is what you'd be doing, if you turn out and you're like, no, I'm fine with people saying that about killing children,

I don't know how the Lord can bless you.

I really don't.

I mean, it shows that, I mean, you're taking one of the fundamental Western civilization cornerstones out of choose life.

And we mentioned this briefly when we were talking to the candidate, but it was like, when you have a situation where the chief law enforcement officer, forget the violence part of it, just his philosophy of you must cause personal pain in somebody's life to get them to change to a policy that you like.

They talk about Jim Comey being a problem, right?

Like, what would this guy be with that power and that philosophy?

That is a terrible combination.

Not good.

Not good.

Churches.

Hello, Virginia churches.

Are you awake?

You should be.

All right, we'll see you tomorrow.

This is Glenn Beck.