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Glenn is in Fort Wayne, Indiana, at a radio station celebrating its 100th anniversary. The station, WOWO, was among the first stations where Glenn first premiered. Glenn gives a history of WOWO and its impact on radio. Glenn speaks with Mercury One executive director J.P. Decker to discuss the upcoming Mercury One gala, which honors all the charity work Mercury One has been engaged in. Is a tic-tac-shaped UFO set to collide with Earth? Harvard University science professor Avi Loeb joins to discuss why we’re discovering objects headed toward Earth regularly and the chances of these objects being alien technology. What is this Manhattan-sized object headed toward Earth, and why is it believed not to be a comet? Stu goes on a rant over the New York City mayoral race between two horrible choices: Zohran Mamdani and Andrew Cuomo. Trump Organization Executive Vice President Eric Trump joins to discuss his new book, “Under Siege: My Family’s Fight to Save Our Nation.” Glenn and Eric also discuss Zohran Mamdani’s chances of becoming mayor of New York City and the horrible policies he plans to implement.
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Hello, America.

Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.

It's Friday.

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I am sitting in a brand new studio,

state of the art, at Wo-Wo in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Wo-Wo is this amazing radio station and I am here to celebrate their 100th anniversary as they are launching into their second century of broadcast and grabbing on to the future.

I'm here because when we launched, Wo-Wo, I think was one of the first five stations.

I know we launched with 20 stations.

And I think they were like number four, number five that signed on.

They were with us on the very first day that we launched the Glenbeck program.

But beyond that,

WOWO in Fort Wayne, Indiana was one of the very first stations in America, in the world.

And what it has meant,

what it has done, and what it's about to do is remarkable.

Back in 1925, there was no such thing as a network.

CBS had not even started to put together a network, the Columbia Broadcasting System.

Radio was brand new.

The air was silent.

And Wo-Wo launched.

And when that voice spoke, people listened because they knew it was speaking to them.

Woho was never a spot on the dial.

Our local radio stations are.

I don't know if we really appreciate our local radio stations.

Everything has changed, and yet something still remains true.

And it's that truth that finds its way through the static on the air.

It's that truth of a friend in the dark hours of a war, or the comfort during a storm when everything else is down, the laugh on a long morning commute.

In Fort Wayne, Indiana, for a hundred years now, when blizzards shut down the roads, when the headlines

when the headlines scarred us or when hope felt small there was always that voice humming through the night a reminder that we're not alone and it's local radio

this is a station that helped put Fort Wayne on the map it was

its first broadcast carried not music and news its first broadcast carried with it identity and this is so critical everything is being flattened out now everything you go to one town after another and they're all the same.

They have the Ann Taylor and the Gap and everything else and it's exactly the same.

The first broadcast carried and the broadcasts that are still carried on your local station,

Wo-Wo told the nation that Indiana had something to say and that people could be both humble and mighty.

It gave a voice to the farmers and the shopkeepers and the school teachers and the kids with dreams bigger than their town's borders.

It carried their music, their songs.

Wo-Wo was the first radio station in the country to carry a basketball game.

It carried their prayers.

When they first launched in the 1920s, they had a huge pipe organ, and every Sunday

they would have services on the air.

But what made these few stations so unique when CBS, two years after WOWO went on the air, maybe four years after they went on the air, they decided, the Columbia Broadcasting System decided that they were going to make a network.

But how do you make a network?

WoWo was one of the first 16 stations to say, we'll share the burden.

We will go to the Bell system, now ATT,

and we will buy the phone lines from New York and we'll string them all the way to Fort Wayne.

And that way we'll be able to carry a network show on a phone line.

And at night when its clear channel signals stretched across the map from the Carolinas to New England, travelers and truckers that were far from home could turn on the dial and hear the warmth of the Midwest.

I used to listen to KFI

early in the morning up in the Pacific Northwest, and I could hear the sound of Los Angeles.

Here,

amongst the busy streets along the coastline of the Atlantic, people would be able to hear home.

Whoa, whoa, was the sound of home that was carried on the wind.

Today we're kind of lost.

Today we don't really know who we are.

It's a world overflowing with noise.

And yet there are those local stations, and I see them in town after town when we go to serve after a hurricane.

It's the local station, it is the wo-wo of the market that is still doing what it always has: listening, serving,

and reminding who we really are.

For a hundred years, this radio station has proven that community isn't something that we click on.

Community is something that we build.

And

when you build it together and the static fades,

something remarkable happens.

We begin to hear each other again.

Do you remember what it was like if you're at my age or maybe even a little younger listening to the ball game under the blankets?

You'd go into your bed and you'd turn on your radio, your transistor radio, and you could listen in the middle of the night and you would listen to voices far away.

Today you're doing that.

You're listening to voices all around the world.

You're seeing images in your hand instantly, live.

Information is infinite.

The problem is, trust is scarce.

And that's why WOWO and stations like it endure.

And they endure perhaps more urgently than ever before.

Because they stand as proof that localism, the small town, the shops, the neighbors, the farms, they matter.

When you watch national news, when you're seeing things on Facebook, everything is flattened.

The perspective is just flat, and the algorithms tailor the outrage for you.

And then there's the local station that says, no, no, no, remember, here's who we are.

Here's where we live.

Here's what we love.

I've developed a new slogan internally for my own company, and that is:

Think small, dream big.

Everybody's thinking too big.

Think small.

Connect with neighbors.

Support your small business.

Give people that are next to you a platform.

Because when you get to this level, when you get to the small local hometown and yet

one of the first network stations,

when you get to a place like Wo-Wo,

it's one of the last institutions where people from opposite ends of the political spectrum might still hear the same words at the same time.

In a divided America, that is rare and that is sacred.

I travel the country.

I've been in radio now.

In 2027, it will be my 50th year in broadcast.

I have been broadcasting half the time that Wo-Wo has been in business, and it was one of the first stations in America.

And I travel the country,

and

the towns are the owners that don't appreciate or don't understand the power of local radio.

They have lost something irreplaceable.

Not sound.

We have plenty of sound.

We've lost our story.

We've lost the voice that says, says,

good morning, Fort Wayne,

and actually means it.

Such an honor to be here today.

It really is.

And I know if you're listening someplace, especially in a big city, this maybe doesn't mean anything to you.

But it should.

Because in the end, it's not going to be a national voice that saves.

It's not going to be

the federal government.

It's going to be all of us in our little towns all over America that saves things.

And it's stations like Wo-Wo that remind us the value is not in watts or ratings, but in its quiet reminder that community is more than people sharing space.

It's people sharing sound and memory and truth.

It was and remains

the heartbeat in the static.

Happy 100th anniversary, WoWo Radio.

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I remember the first time time I was here.

I had just written my first book.

It was called The Real America.

About four people read it.

I showed up at a bookstore here in Fort Wayne,

and I had to stay there for, I think, an hour.

I was contractually.

I had to stay there for an hour, and nobody was there.

I mean, after like 15 minutes, the whole place was empty.

And I'm like, this is so awkward.

I'm standing around in this bookstore and nobody is here.

And these little old ladies came up,

and they were local.

And this one lady was introducing me to her other friends who hadn't listened to me yet.

And at one point, she brought me a pie.

Another lady, I think, brought me a loaf of bread.

And these were in the days when a listener could bring me something and I could actually eat it.

And this lady said to me, we were sitting there talking, and she reminded me of my grandmother.

I could see her quilting her, what my grandmother used to say, her lap robe.

My grandmother would quilt these blankets.

We didn't know until after she died.

She would quilt these blankets all winter long.

We'd see her, but we didn't know what she was doing with them, and she was giving them to the homeless.

And I could see this woman, just like my grandmother, just quietly quilting.

And she looked at her friends and she said, You need to listen to this young man.

She said, He's a really good boy.

And then she grabbed my cheek and she shook my cheek.

She said, Just

sometimes he gets a little out of control, but he's a good boy.

I was driving this morning early in Fort Wayne.

It's still a town with a heartbeat.

They've redone the downtown.

It's beautiful.

I should probably tell you it's not because I don't think everybody wants people to go, oh, I want to live in Fort Wayne.

I think they would like to keep it like this, but

the neighborhoods are still neighborhoods.

The big old houses aren't all run down in some ghetto.

It's beautiful.

And the trees are starting to turn colors.

And some of the factories are even being used again.

I was just at Burna, one of our sponsors there here in Fort Wayne.

And they've been building here and building factories as America gets back to work.

I thought I could live here in a heartbeat.

But time goes on, and so does the news.

And things get busier and busier and busier.

And

I got here yesterday, and I was worn out because I had spent a few hours with the president this week.

The guy who had flown on Sunday, left in the afternoon on Sunday, went, flew across the ocean, went to Israel, greeted the hostages as they were being released, celebrated, then went and spoke at the Knesset for two hours, then got on another plane, went to Egypt, negotiated a peace deal, did all kinds of talking and picture-taking and shaking of hands and everything else, got back onto a plane, arrived, met with the president of Argentina, Malay,

and then walked out into the Rose Garden and did a tribute to Charlie Kirk.

And then, after that, he walked back into the Oval Office, and I was standing outside of the Oval Office at one point, and it was lined with people waiting to go in and see him.

And it was the Vice president and the secretary of state,

the guy moving

so rapidly.

And I was tired.

A lot is happening in our world, and it's happening quickly.

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So, Stu, can you just check for me?

What is the price of gold this morning?

Is it $8,000 an ounce yet?

Not quite.

Not quite.

I did see it hit over $4,300.

$4,300.

$4,325 currently.

Almost hit 4,400 yesterday.

That is insane.

That's insane.

Do you remember, what was it, 18 months ago?

We said, well, you know, this is kind of crazy.

I mean, you know, get your $4,200 gold report, and it's $4,300.

And it was insane at least 20 months ago to say it would even hit 4,000.

Now they're saying earlier this week, they said $5,000 gold.

We're going to be hitting $8,000 gold this pace

and what is it saying because i'm i'm not sure i know what gold says

gold the price of gold tells you that everybody is freaking out

but who's freaking out because generally speaking this is not being purchased by the average person in america or anywhere around the world this is all being purchased by gigantic investors, i.e., the central banks.

So what is it that the central bank knows that you don't know?

This is such a, I think this is one of the biggest signs I have ever seen: on, hey, we all should be prepared.

We all should be thinking about the economy differently than we are because the rich, the really rich, the central banks know something we don't know.

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I am in Fort Wayne, Indiana, where I just,

earlier today, somebody brought in, I guess this is a Fort Wayne staple, the sugar cream pie.

And I think that's the ingredients.

I think it's sugar.

You might add some butter, like a pound of butter.

Butter, I think, cream and sugar.

And it puts the dye in diabetes, but it is so unbelievably good.

And I thought, maybe this is how Trump is doing it.

Maybe he's just loading up on sugar cream pies.

And that's how he's just powering through every single day and getting through it.

JD Decker is, JP Decker is with us.

JP is,

he was one of my executive producers for a long time, senior producer on the TV show.

Then he left me.

He abandoned me and went to Fox because he thought he was better.

And then he comes crawling back.

No.

And then he comes back after that experience, and I made him the executive director of Mercury One, and he has just turboed Mercury One.

And I have to tell you, you, Suzanne, and the entire team at Mercury One, I can't tell you how proud I am to be associated with you guys.

You have just.

You've changed the world, JP.

You really have.

Thank you.

It's such a blessing.

It is honestly the best I've ever had besides working for you, obviously, so many years ago.

I remember it.

Wasn't it, was it 10 years ago?

How long was it that we went together to more,

Oklahoma?

Yeah, just about 12 years ago now.

And it was, I mean, that was my hometown growing up and seeing it destroyed.

But that was my first experience with Mercury One to see the impact that Mercury One was having at that time.

And now that God's brought me back, it's so cool to be the first on the ground during disaster relief and being able to help people.

Yeah, do you remember you were, because you were just, I don't know if you were a senior producer at that point yet, but you were like, this is my hometown and you wanted to go.

And we just loaded up trucks with supplies and drove overnight.

And I remember we got there when the sun was rising

and

I told the story and I had never seen, if you've never seen a tornado, you have no idea the damage.

I mean, it is

the power.

of a tornado.

It just takes whole homes and turns it into mulch and sprays it everywhere.

It's incredible the damage that was done.

Yeah.

And at that time, you know, we could see it for miles.

I mean, we could see, I mean, the sunrise for miles because all the houses were gone.

And, you know, we see that all the time now, unfortunately.

And now

you are in charge of most of our humanitarian operations

and you were just in for the is it one year anniversary?

One year anniversary.

Can you believe that?

Since North Carolina, since the Helene, you know, hurricane went up through the Florida coast and then Georgia, Tennessee.

It's just shocking how it's been a year.

And, you know, we've done so much since we've been there, too.

We've, we built around 100 homes.

That's just West North Carolina.

We're working in Tennessee, Georgia, Florida,

and also the, you know, Texas Hill Country as well.

We're working on about 70 homes in that area.

People don't have any idea.

What you have done, and I mean you, the listener, what you have done through Mercury One is game-changing.

I was just in an airport someplace, I don't remember where, just this week, and somebody somebody was from Hawaii, and they said, hey, I wanted to thank you for Mercury One.

You guys were there and you're still there helping us recover.

I mean,

the number of people and families that this audience has impacted through Mercury One is remarkable, really remarkable.

I don't know of anything like it.

Yeah, and

we've been able, when I was there a couple weeks ago, we went into this one neighborhood, just one of hundreds of homes we're working on.

And there is about six homes that are almost completely rebuilt some of them were moving in a year to the year of the hurricane and that was impactful of itself that they're able to go back into their homes but many of the stories we heard was one of them this family as the waters are rising they had to climb and put their little kids up into the attic and then they had to as it rose up to the roof line they had to chop their way through the roof and then get to the top and got the kids up there.

But

not, you know, just survival alone, but then this happened.

They're up there and the kids are screaming for, they said around 20, 30 minutes, just waiting for someone to come.

And these two guys who had homes up on a hill heard their screams, got in their kayaks and paddled down and rescued those kids.

And that's just one of the many families that we get to now put them back into their homes.

Are we able to announce

the storytelling aspect of some of this stuff?

Is that next week or is we do that now?

Next week.

Next week.

Next week.

Yeah.

We have something so exciting.

I mean, next year, 2026 is such an exciting year.

It's my 49th year of broadcast, and I just wanted to change things so I go roaring into 50.

And

we have so many exciting things that we're going to be announcing here in the next few weeks and

bringing these stories to life.

We're going to talk about that and history and everything else.

This weekend, and these tickets are already all sold out in Dallas.

I'm coming back tonight to do the fundraiser for Mercury One, which is tomorrow.

And this one is for our maximum impact fund.

And let me just quickly tell you that just pays for all the bills.

So when I go on the air and say, hey, 100% of every dollar raised is going to this.

you know that's true because we've already raised the money to pay all the bills and everything else.

But this also gives us the space, you know, if we have a pad of a million dollars or two million dollars, we know if there's a major disaster, we can load trucks up, we can pay for the airplanes, we can do everything and get there as things are still happening.

We can pre-position,

and that's what this does.

And we have a silent auction going on, and you can go onto the website.

And

where do you find this, Jay?

You can go to the Mercury one and then scroll down just a little bit, and there's probably going to be a pop-up as well that you can go to that link.

And what's for sale?

We've got all kinds of stuff on there.

There's jewelry, there's also experiences, and then also you can just donate to Maximum Impact Fund if you wanted to.

But also I think what is really cool that I love to tell people about this night is it's not just your normal gala.

It's a night where people can come and our whole goal is for you, the donor, and the people that are coming to understand what God can do when you're willing to say, here I am, Lord, send me.

And I think that's what's so cool about this night is that it's a worship service, it's prayer time, it's time to see what God has done and how we can rescue and restore the human spirit and that hope that you, you so long ago, you framed that hope and God gave you that vision, Glenn.

And now every gala, it's, here's the hope to get us through the next year.

And it's these donors who are willing to give to that maximum impact fund that really does allow us to be different than most nonprofits.

To be able to say, like to those kids you and I called last year who raised $500, they're in Utah and it's the small little school and they raised $500 to go help the people in North Carolina.

And we were able to tell those kids that $500, all of it, went to North Carolina.

And I think that's just, that's such a promise that we have to, we want to keep, but it's also a calling that we have to keep because God's called us to that.

And I think

it's so cool.

I was, if I remember right, I did a, I Skyped into the class and talked to the class.

I don't even know if we ever covered any of that.

We have to start covering some of the stuff that Mercury One does.

But

Skyped into the class and talked to the class about what they did, where their money went.

And

it was just so cool.

This is a way for people to connect and to connect with things that are real.

You know, I think we live in a time where people think that they don't matter, that nothing matters, that nothing has any meaning.

It does, but you have to go find find the meaning.

You have to go do things.

You're not going to find meaning if you're just online all the time.

You're not going to find meaning if you're not being pushed, if you're not pushing yourself, if you're not serving.

Ben Franklin said

they tried to trap him on which religion is the right one?

What's the American religion, Ben?

And he said, the American religion is we believe there's a God.

We believe he will judge us.

And

so we should should serve him.

And the best way to serve him is by serving our fellow man.

And that's what America has always been known for.

We've been known for our charity, known for serving each other.

And

this raffle,

you can get a brand new Ford F-150, a pretty good chance at getting that.

And also, you can look for

the auction.

There's a whole bunch of stuff, including stuff from me.

Did we auction off a day with me at all?

We have not.

No.

Yeah, we kept coming back with negative results.

Everyone kept saying we really don't want

people

to pay them for somebody with them.

Yeah, the entire auction site went down when we tried.

Yeah.

Weird.

Yeah, it was really

hate you.

Ha, okay.

Well, anyway, that's from

Mercury One.

Also, can we say who's going to be at the gala tomorrow?

I think this is really kind of exciting.

You could if you'd like to.

Yeah.

Glenn Beck.

No, no, I don't.

No, no.

You go ahead.

I don't want to.

Jordan Felice is a great Christian singer.

He's going to be performing as well.

We've got some government officials that will be there as well.

It's so interesting.

We live in such a different world now.

It's like,

that's why I didn't say anything because I would have said the name and I wasn't sure if I was supposed to say the name because we have another fundraiser coming up

for our history

thing and some really cool things.

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Doing great.

Thanks for having me.

It's great to have you on.

So

can you just please explain, are we just seeing these things more than we ever have because we have the eyes now in space to see this?

Yeah, over the past decade, the astronomers constructed the new survey telescopes of the sky.

Also, we have much better computers that allow us to digest large data sets.

But the motivation for building those survey telescopes is a task that Congress gave to NASA and the National Science Foundation

to survey the sky for any objects that are near Earth that could collide with Earth because that poses a risk.

And they posed it as

the challenge of finding all objects bigger than a football field that may collide with Earth, near-Earth objects.

And

there were two major observatories constructed back a decade ago.

There was PanStars in Hawaii.

And recently, in june twenty twenty five, a new observatory in Chile was inaugurated called the Rubin Observatory, funded by the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation.

And those allow us to see objects

that are the size of a football field and have a complete survey.

And amazingly, in twenty seventeen, an object like that was slagged, and then the astronomers realized it's actually moving too fast to be bound by gravity to the sun.

So it came from outside the solar system.

It couldn't have been around.

So that was the first.

It was given the name Omua Mua, which means scout in the Hawaiian language.

And then...

Hold on, hold on, hold on, just a second, because I remember this, and I think I talked to you around this time.

Explain what you meant it was moving too fast.

Oh,

well, you know, the planets orbit the Sun.

For example, the Earth moves around the Sun at the speed of about thirty kilometers per second,

which is faster is it's three hundred times faster than the fastest race car we have.

I'm talking about thirty kilometers in one second.

That's about twenty miles in one second.

That's the speed by which the Earth orbits the sun.

But it imagine

boosting the Earth, just giving it attaching a rocket to it.

once it would reach a speed of about 42 kilometers per second, just bigger by the square root of two,

relative 1.4 times the the current speed that it's moving, it will be able to escape the solar system.

So it just needs a high enough speed to escape from the gravitational potential well of the Sun.

And we know what this speed is.

And so if we see objects moving near the Earth at more than 42 kilometers per second, we know that they cannot be bound by gravity to the Sun.

They must have originated somewhere else.

And so Omuamua was one of those.

And since then, we found two more with telescopes.

I actually identified with my student a fourth one, which was found by the US government satellites that are monitoring the Earth.

That was a meteor that came from interstellar space.

But at any event, the most recent one was found by a small telescope in Chile

called the ATLAS.

Again, to identify risk for Earth.

And

that one was given the name 3I ATLAS.

So help me out on this because, I mean, we didn't have these telescopes.

This is obviously a relatively new thing that we're doing.

How much damage does a football field size

comet or space debris,

what would that do?

What was the size of whatever killed the dinosaurs, if that indeed indeed was what happened?

What is an Earth killer size?

Yeah, well,

the size of a football field,

an object like that, if it collides with Earth, can cause regional damage.

Much more, you know, like of order

a thousand times the Hiroshima atomic bomb energy output.

So, kind of like what happened in Russia back in the turn of the last century?

Yeah, something.

No, that one was actually much smaller than

that was a thousand times less massive.

Oh my gosh.

You know, these these uh big ones are really rare.

And uh that's uh why I will say uh as we continue the discussion, I will mention this new one.

It's estimated to be, you know,

of order, the one that killed the dinosaurs.

And it's these are extremely rare.

And so the question is why are we seeing an interstellar object that big

just within the last decade?

But coming back to your question,

the size of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was roughly Manhattan Island.

Okay, so so compare the size of a football field to Manhattan Island.

It's a very different scale.

And so what the Congress wanted NASA to do is identify those that will cause just a regional damage, not a catastrophe like happened with the dinosaurs where there was a nuclear winter.

You know, the earth was covered with dust.

And yeah.

So and and you know, seventy five percent of all species died at that.

And we owe our existence because after the dinosaurs died,

the more complex animals came along, and we are one of those species.

So you say they're only looking for the small ones, but I'm sure if the big one shows up,

you'll ring the bell.

No, that's

much easier.

It's much easier to see the big ones.

Right.

And do we have any technology that can move these things out, or is this just something that we're not

just another thing on the plate?

Oh, by the way, this could happen and it's coming our way and there's really nothing we could do is this just a big worry or is there things that we can actually do

yes we can uh because if you catch it early enough before it comes close to earth you just need to nudge it a little bit to the side and then it will miss the earth and there are all kinds of proposals for how to do that you can

and you know the most aggressive one is to explode the nuclear weapon on it another proposal wouldn't that break it up and then we'd have all kinds of little meteors coming our way.

Yeah, exactly.

That's why it's not a good idea.

You know, the old Patriot missiles were doing just that.

And they created, when they were operated

back a decade ago,

they created much more damage than help, actually.

But you can do it in a more intelligent way, maybe

explode the weapon close to the object so that it doesn't disintegrate, it just ablates part of it, and then you get the rocket effect from

the ablation, pushing it.

But there are other ways.

Some people suggested painting it on one side so that it reflects more sunlight on one side and then it's getting nudged a little bit.

You can imagine shepherding it by gravity.

The spacecraft is massive enough and it shepherds it, it attracts, it basically gives it a gravitational nudge.

There are all kinds of methods that were produced, proposed.

And by the way, NASA, just

a year ago, they tried one of these methods with a mission called DART, where they collided with an asteroid to see how much it gets

kicked as a result and what happens to it.

And it was quite surprising because some of these asteroids are not very rigid.

They are porous and you get all kinds of dust thrown out of them in ways that were not anticipated.

So at any event, the people are thinking about, you know, rocks, rocks are easy to deal with because in principle you can tell what their path would be.

However, one thing that was never discussed is the kind of thing I'm trying to advocate we do is what if there is some alien technology out there, then you you know if it has if it was designed by intelligence,

you won't be able to forecast exactly what it would do.

It's just like finding a visitor to your backyard.

The visitor may enter through your front door.

You have to act immediately.

And you need to engage with it in ways that are much more complicated than dealing with a rock.

Okay.

So let me.

Another thing.

Here's something else you can worry about.

So

let me start there because there's some things that I've been reading.

I don't know what's true.

I don't know what's not true on this three-eye atlas.

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Okay, so I don't know what's real, what's not real.

I don't know who has credibility.

You know, we've heard so many things about extraterrestrial technology.

We had, you know, all of the drones in the sky that everybody was thinking aliens were going to invade us for a while.

And the world is on edge.

I mean, we're very 1938, 39 war of the worlds kind of territory in America.

And I think the world, we're freaked out about everything.

So tell me about about 3E Atlas and

why you say it may have alien technology.

Right.

So let me give you the facts.

I mean,

the whole point about doing science is that we can collect evidence, data,

from instruments and we don't need to rely on stories that people tell.

So what are the facts that make it really unusual?

Well, first of all, it's the size.

As I mentioned in the beginning, we expect many more small objects than big objects.

And the previous two interstellar objects were roughly hundreds of meters in in size.

You know, the first one, Oumuamua, was of order a football field, a hundred meters.

And this one, I wrote a paper two weeks ago that shows that it it's bigger than five kilometers, you know, comparable to the size of Manhattan Island.

And that's

it's it's a million times more massive if you take solid density relative to the first one, Oumuamua, a million times more.

So how can it be the third object?

We should have seen millions of Omuamua-like objects before seeing a big one like that.

Wait, wait, but we didn't have the technology to see it, right?

I mean, these things could have been passing through the side.

No, no, it's easier to see the big ones because they reflect much more sunlight.

So in fact, especially if they shed mass, Omuamua did not shed any mass.

There was no gas or dust around it.

We just saw the bare object.

And it was already puzzling because of that.

It was pushed away from the sun by some mysterious force.

It was most likely flat,

had an extreme shape.

And

it accelerated, right?

It didn't just whip around the sun.

It accelerated, which does not naturally happen.

Yeah, well, it happens if there is a rocket effect,

if it's losing mass in one direction and getting a recoil in the opposite direction.

But there wasn't any mass loss observed from Omuomua.

Nevertheless, what I'm saying is an object that is a million times more massive is much easier to see roughly when we talk about

it being within the distance of the Earth from the Sun.

And so we could have seen that easily,

many of those small ones before we see a big one.

And then the second one was a comet very similar to the type of natural comets we see.

and that one was a thousand times less massive than

this new one, three I Atlas.

So the size is anomalous.

It's just surprising that we would see a giant one like that.

There is not enough rocky material in interstellar space to supply such a giant one once per decade to the inner solar system.

We would expect it once per 10,000 years or so.

Anyway, that's the size anomaly.

Then there is the fact that the Hubble Space Telescope observed it and noticed, I mean, in the image, it displays a glow that is towards the sun, pointing towards the sun,

instead of what you usually see for comets, where you see glow pointing away from the sun.

And the reason you see that away from the sun is because dust and gas are being pushed by the sunlight and the solar wind away from the comet.

That's what gives gives it the look, a comet, a look of a tail.

Exactly.

That's the definition of a comet.

So then, you know, all the comet experts said, oh, look, here is a comet, because we see this extension of a globe.

But what they didn't realize, so they were, you know, it's just like seeing an animal in your backyard.

And

everyone says, oh, it must be a street cat because it has a tail.

But then you look at the photograph of this animal and you see that the tail is coming from its forehead and and you say well how how is that a street cat a common street cat does not have a tail coming from its head so anyway this one is the first one you know that shows such a thing and unlike regular comets and then in addition so these are two anomalies so far in addition

the the trajectory of this object is aligned to within five degrees with the ecliptic plane of the planets around the Sun and the chance of that is one in 500.

So basically, it comes in the plane where all the planets are moving around the Sun.

And, you know, that could be

by intelligent

planning because if you wanted to do a reconnaissance mission, you know, coming close to planets, that's the way to do it.

And the previous one came, you know, both Omuomua and the second one, Borisov, came at a very large angle.

So this one comes straight in the plane.

And you ask, why?

Why is it coming in a plane?

And by the way, all of these anomalies, nobody that is calling himself or herself a comet expert, they just say it's a comet.

But if you ask them, why is that, they would not have an explanation.

Why does it come in a plane?

Oh, it's by chance.

Why is it so big?

Oh, it's by chance.

Why does it have this glow towards the sun rather than away?

Oh, it's something we don't fully understand.

So they would say that, but they would not admit that it could be something else.

Then there is the arrival time of this object.

You know, it arrived through the solar system at a special time because it's passing very close to Mars, Venus, and Jupiter.

And these planets are moving around the Sun, and you have to be at the right time at the right place in order to come within tens of millions of kilometers from each of them.

And so that's another coincidence that

might indicate fine-tuning that there is some reason that it's coming so close.

And then

I just want to clear some stuff up, and then I got to take another break.

All of these things could be chance, right?

But you're saying now they're just...

The probability for each of them is very small.

Right.

Then

you need to multiply each likelihood

by another, and you get something like one in a million chance.

Okay.

When we come back, I want to talk to you about the other things that I've heard that start to really sharpen this is that

the surface is unlike it's not only not shedding any gas or any debris, but the surface appears to be different.

The makeup of it

is different.

And I want to get to the WOW signal, which is something that happened in 1977 that people just dismissed.

And you now say

that may have come from this object.

We'll talk about it coming up.

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More with Avi Lobe next.

Our guest is Avi Loeb.

He's a professor at Harvard.

He is the director of the Institute for Theory and Computation within the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.

He is the head of the Galileo Project,

longest-serving chair chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy.

I mean, he's written nine books,

thousands of scientific papers.

I mean,

the guy knows what he's talking about.

And he is the one, he's the one physicist, the one scientist that is coming out and saying, hey, we should.

We should look for other things.

Instead of just saying, ha, don't know, maybe we should consider that this is intelligently designed.

And he's talking about the three-eye atlas.

This is a,

they say a comet, but he says maybe not,

the size of Manhattan that on October, I think it's 25th of this year, is going to come the closest to Earth.

It's like 170 million miles away from us.

And he says it might be something to observe the planets in our solar system and, you know, kind of a space traveler.

Avi, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me.

Okay, so talk to me about the surface of this, because I don't know what's true and what's not.

I read that the surface is is smooth and it it also seems to have a different density than than what we would expect from a comet and a different material.

So what we s

what we see is a plume of gas around it which might have been released uh because of the illumination by the sun, but we don't know.

And we can tell the composition of this gas around it.

And what we find is, in difference from what comet experts forecasted, they said it will be water.

That's what comets in the solar system lose mostly water.

It turns out that water makes only 4% of the mass of the plume of gas around it.

It's mostly carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide.

And there are some trace levels of nickel and cyanide.

Now, nickel

in other comets, in all the comets that we know about, nickel comes with iron.

They have comparable abundance.

But in this case, it's only nickel that was detected with no iron.

And the only way,

the only other place where we see that is in industrially produced nickel alloys, when we refined nickel and use that that for aerospace applications for all kinds of industrial applications so there is a

so you're saying nickel always generally comes bound with iron when you have it in the raw form

yeah because they are both produced by the same origin in super in exploding stars that are called supernovae and in fact there is even more iron than nickel by mass in the composition of the sun so in comets you see comparable levels of nickel and iron.

In this object around it,

there are two very detailed studies that detected very prominent nickel abundance, but no iron whatsoever.

And the question is why?

And they the authors of those papers suggest, well, maybe there is in nature the same process that we use.

It's called the carbonyl process used to refine nickel industrially.

Maybe the same thing happens in

three i Atlas, but it's unique.

There is no other place where we've seen it.

So that's another anomaly.

Can I just play devil's advocate here for a second?

We know so little about the universe.

I mean, we know so little about the human brain.

Why is it

Why is it more logical to say it is intelligently designed than there's a place in the universe that does this?

Well, just because before 3i Atlas, the only place where we saw nickel without iron is in industrial production of nickel alloys.

So

the authors of the paper say, yeah, maybe nature does it as well.

And I'm saying, well, maybe it's not nature.

That's all.

So we don't know for sure.

You're right.

It's possible that nature is as innovative as we are when we make.

You know, the reason that we separate nickel is in order to get it to be a stronger material that is resilient against heat and all kinds of other.

So maybe.

You would imagine then if this is nickel if this is

this is you know

you can't use this term but man-made if this was intelligently designed it would not appear on the surface to be a comet or a rock right it would be more smooth

it would but we don't have an image that shows us the object itself all we see is the glow of gas or some something else around it we don't know so when we when we see that that that cylindrical tube-looking thing, that's not an actual picture of what it looks like?

No, no, because that's on scales of hundreds to thousands of kilometers.

The object itself is of the order of 10 kilometers, much smaller, and we just don't have a big enough telescope to resolve it.

So, we can just see the

glow around it, which are materials released by the object.

We have no but on the other hand, on October 2nd, there was a camera on board the Mars Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter that NASA put near Mars that took an image of this object when it came closest to Mars, just a week ago.

And that camera did not,

you know, the data that was obtained was never released because of the government shutdown.

So we don't, I mean, we could, in principle, get a better sense of the nature of the object, the size of the object, and perhaps more details about if we could get this data out, but somehow NASA is not operational right now.

The other I wanted to mention a few other anomalies.

One is the light coming from three Atlas is very negatively polarized, something that

is unprecedented for all known comets.

And

in addition, the

well, then we don't know what I don't know what to make of it.

Maybe the geometry of the object is unusual.

Like this jet that I mentioned in the beginning, the glow that is actually ten times longer than it is wide in the direction of the Sun, maybe that is producing a very unusual polarization.

That may be.

But what I'm saying is, nobody tried to explain those facts.

And finally, there is this coincidence that you mentioned between the arrival direction of 3i Atlas and the WOW signal that was discovered in 1977 that was definitely extraterrestrial.

And it was a radio signal in a narrow band

from a source that is approaching the Earth.

And it came from within nine degrees of the arrival direction of 3i Atlas.

So the chance of that happening at random is 0.6%.

And I'm just asking, you know, is it possible that the signal came from the direction of 3-I Atlas?

Explain the WOW signal, because WOW was what was written, if I'm not mistaken, on the tape as it was going through

the graph or the charts that were printed out at the time.

the scientists that saw it just wrote wow on it because

it was not natural occurring.

At least that's what he thought at the time, right?

Well, it was a 72-second long

burst of radio emission from

a direction from a source that was not there before or after.

And it came at a frequency just a little bit above a natural frequency of hydrogen.

So we can tell that the source was approaching the sun.

But we don't know the nature of the source.

And what information did it give us?

We don't know.

No, there is no information content that was identified in the signal itself.

But that's what the people at the time were searching for, some radio signal from an extraterrestrial civilization.

This is the only credible signal way above the noise that was discovered.

And my point is the chance of it being in the direction of three Atlas to within nine degrees is zero point six percent.

So maybe maybe we should use radio observatories to look at three Atlas and see if if it if there is any radio emission.

So far, no report came on uh from radio observatories and I spoke a few days ago with um uh a person in charge of the Juno spacecraft around Jupiter because three Atlas will come close to Jupiter within fifty four million kilometers on march sixteenth, twenty twenty six.

And

he told me, the PI, the principal investigator of this Juno spacecraft near Jupiter, that they will use their radio antenna

to check if there is any radio emission from three Atlas.

So I'm very hopeful that at the very least we'll have data from Juno.

By the way, Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna called me a month ago and asked me for an update about 3i Atlas.

I gave her an update and also mentioned a paper that I wrote about using Juno to detect 3i Atlas.

She very graciously wrote a formal letter to Sean Duffy, the interim administrator of NASA, and encouraged NASA to use Juno for that purpose.

What will it tell you if

we find out that

that radio signal or it is some sort of anomaly that

is not naturally occurring.

What is it doing, and what would that tell you?

Right.

How old would it have to be?

Well, the age, we don't know, but and we don't know how much traffic there is of gadgets in our vicinity and what the purpose might be.

But

there is a very clean way of telling the difference between a spacecraft and a rock.

You know, if you see some transmission of radio

waves that, you know, a rock would never emit, or if you detect a maneuver when the object comes close to the sun, if it suddenly changes trajectory, taking advantage of the gravitational assist from the sun, if the object releases mini-probes that visit planets, or if it shows some excess heat from an engine, you know, you can tell that it's technological.

So we have to monitor it.

We should not assume that it's a rock.

And I go beyond that.

I say that there should be an international committee that collects data

and

coordinates the assembly of data for any future interstellar object that the Rubin Observatory in Chile will find.

Every few months we're expecting to find a new one in the coming decade.

And moreover, you know, the U.S.

President should be briefed about any objects that appear to be technological.

I don't expect politicians to do anything until the first encounter.

And really, I hope that we will survive that.

But after the first encounter,

I'm sure that a significant fraction of military budgets worldwide would be dedicated to an alert system that we put

in the outer solar system to alert us for any incoming technologies.

Do you believe that you're going to see alien something in your lifetime?

I think that they existed in the past, billions of years before we came came along.

I think that Elon Musk is not the most accomplished space entrepreneur since the Big Bang, thirteen point eight billion years ago, despite of what he says.

But it's not a question of belief.

You see, this is just looking at your backyard and checking if there are any visitors.

And

we might have been blind until the last decade because we haven't searched.

And there might have been traffic that we are not aware of.

So my point is, let's just look at the evidence and the data and not assume that everything is rocks out there.

Professor, thank you so much.

Really appreciate it.

It was always great to talk to you.

I mean, I don't know what the answers are, but you're a fascinating thinker.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

And I should mention that in a week I'm

on Joe Rogan's podcast.

So if anyone wants more detail,

I'll be talking about it there.

It probably will be like three, four hours.

So there will be more details.

Yeah, great.

Avi, thank you so much.

Avi Loeb, Harvard University Science Professor and Physicist.

Could the three-eye atlas be alien technology?

You know, again, I don't know the answer, but it's Friday.

I kind of like to think about these things.

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Stu, what is your quick takeaway on the debate last night?

I mean, basically, you're talking about two of the worst people society has ever produced battling it out against a guy who just seems nice and wanting to help, so he has no chance to win whatsoever.

Right, exactly right.

You have the one normal guy, doesn't have a chance.

Mom Dani, the communist, he everybody loves, and he's up against the guy who killed your grandmother during COVID.

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Hey, Glenn, how's it going?

Well, I'm glad I don't live in New York anymore.

How glad of you that we moved to Texas?

Very excited.

I would not want to be facing the decisions that people who live in New York City are facing.

I mean, during COVID, you made a lot of money on

cops, mugs, and t-shirts saying how bad Cuomo is, worst person in the world.

And yet I think he's the better choice if it's between him and Mom Dani.

You know, I don't, it's such a difficult thing to describe because

you have a terrible candidate, a terrible, would be a terrible mayor in Mom Dani, who would do all sorts of things that would really destroy the country and the city itself more directly.

And then you have, you know, one of the worst people that we can even imagine being in charge of anything.

A person who, as you pointed out earlier, is likely to kill your grandmother and likely to grope your daughter.

So, you know, whether you want to put someone like that in power is a whole lot of things.

What do you think about the Cuomo slogan?

Hey, at least he's not Pol Pot.

I guess.

Sure, he's killed a few people, but he's not Pol Pot.

Yeah, he hasn't killed that many people.

Yeah, right.

Pol Pot did it too, and he did it a lot more.

Right.

It's not a chicken in every pot, it's a pole in every pot.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

It's just hard for, like, I keep talking to people who are like, gosh,

I hope Cuomo wins.

And it's like, it's really hard for me to get there mentally.

I understand why you wouldn't want Mom Donnie.

I get it.

But man, like, you want me to, I'm sorry.

Pardon me.

Excuse me from the conversation if what the conversation is, I have to advocate for Andrew Cuomo.

I'm sorry, I'm sick that day, that year, that lifetime.

I'm never going to advocate for Andrew Cuomo.

He is among the worst people that has ever been produced by humanity.

And, you know, so is Mom Dani, by the way.

And Mom Danny's policies might be a little worse.

Remember, Cuomo's policies are terrible, too.

I think people just look at Cuomo as a known quantity.

Sure, he's going to probably kill your grandmother.

Sure, he's going to molest your daughter.

Sure, he's going to be completely corrupt and break every law he can find, but he's not Mom Dani.

And that is maybe

here's the difference.

Here's the difference.

Mom Dani's policies do lead to pole pot.

If you're a communist, they eventually do lead to pole pot.

If you're an Islamist,

it leads to Sharia law.

So none of those are, I mean, you know, okay, let me soften the Cuomo slogan.

Grandma would vote for him if grandma hadn't been killed by him.

Right.

How about that?

I mean, if he didn't kill somebody.

So they're trying to make this sellable for him.

Maybe he would win this election if all the people he killed were still alive.

That's the path.

If he hadn't killed your grandmother,

he'd probably win.

Oh, that's great.

You know, it's just tough to see how either one of these people could even be considered for this job.

And of course, you know, everyone's like, oh, gosh, well, you know, you have, it's got to be one of these two people.

Does it?

Is that true?

i'm curious if that's actually true because my understanding was there's a third person on stage right curtis sliwa who would actually be a good mayor of the city who's the main thing he's known for is trying to protect you from being stabbed on the subway this is the one thing this guy's done his entire life is take his own time and yes put on a somewhat silly hat and go out and try to protect you and your children from being stabbed or mugged.

Yeah, but we can't have him.

He's crazy.

Let's not even consider him.

Let's not even consider him.

That makes perfect sense.

Especially when you're in New York City, a place that has had,

I guess like

people stabbed.

No, a lot of people stabbed.

But I would say over the past like 30 or 40 years has had two

periods of

prosperity,

both of which coincide with Republican mayors.

And that's just total coincidence, of course.

And then times of absolute misery and despair

and just horrible, horrible crime, poverty, everything else.

And those are done by the progressives.

Yes.

One of which, by the way, is

noted as the favorite mayor of one of the two candidates running.

Bill de Blasio is Mom Donnie's favorite mayor.

So those are your choices.

Now, I can understand, like, you know, the reason why I think Cuomo seems a little bit better to people is like, Mom Dani's saying de Blasio is his favorite mayor, and Cuomo, I think intelligently, is coming out and saying,

can you believe this guy?

You know, he's saying,

he's admitting it right now.

He's saying de Blasio is his favorite mayor.

How can you vote for this guy?

An understandable line of attack, another understandable line of attack for Cuomo is to say, hey, have you noticed

my opponent opponent seems to really like Hamas?

Has anyone noticed?

Has anyone...

Now, I know I killed a bunch of your grandparents, but he wants to kill all of you if you happen to be Jewish.

And he keeps bringing this up.

And you know what happens when he brings it up?

Jews want to vote for him, 70-30.

So I don't really know why it seems to go this direction right now.

He seems to be winning

among the voters which he is most likely to end their lives.

And both candidates want to end the lives of tons of their constituents.

We need to be clear about that.

But Mom Dani is specifically,

and now, of course, he, this is all alleged, he would never admit such a thing.

He would just say stuff like: of course, I want Israel to exist.

I just would never endorse

a nation to exist that has a hierarchy of religion and

class.

Now, of course, what he's saying there is, you know, what his interpretation of the modern state of Israel is.

He's just explaining it in a separate sentence from when he lies to you and says he does want it to exist.

He has the right to exist as long as it runs itself as a totally different country.

Let me show you how Mom Dani was discrediting Cuomo last night, cut six.

In other words, what the assemblyman said is he has no experience.

And this is not a job for someone who has no management experience to run 300,000 people, no financial experience to run $115 billion budget.

He literally has never had a job.

On his resume, it says he interned for his mother.

This is not a job for a first-timer.

Any day, you could have a hurricane,

God forbid, a 9-11, a health pandemic.

If you don't know what you're doing, people are doing all that.

Mr.

Mamdani, do you want to respond?

And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes?

That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today.

What I don't have in experience, I make up for in integrity.

And what you don't have in integrity, you could never make up for in experience.

Yes.

May I?

First, what you said was totally false, as you know.

Which part was false?

During COVID,

everyone did whatever they could in this state.

And there have been numerous investigations where they've gone through it and they said we follow the federal guidance.

But yes, people died during COVID.

And my heart breaks for everyone

that died in this state and across this nation.

But just to be clear, Mr.

Just to fact check that there is a criminal investigation reportedly underway at the DOJ about your testimony to Congress about your nursing home record.

Yeah,

that is a political issue with the Congress.

They made a referral, which has gone absolutely nowhere.

I love that

his actual excuse for his record is there's been multiple investigations.

Yeah, there have been.

That's because a lot of people were dropping dead under your leadership, you moron.

Oh, God, he's the worst.

Here he is

again, Mom Dani, taking another shot at Cuomo.

Listen to this.

Candidate in the Democratic primary for him to set foot in a mosque.

He had more than 10 years, and he couldn't name a single mosque at the last debate we had that he visited.

And what Muslims want in this city is what every community wants and deserves.

They want equality and they want respect.

And it took me to get you to even see those Muslims as part of this city.

And that, frankly, is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.

Yes, stop right here.

Stop right here.

Stop right here for a second.

Does anybody else remember 9-11?

I mean,

we're having this conversation in that city.

And I mean, it's, I mean,

never forget, Glenn.

It's not like we're talking about just Muslims.

We're talking about Islamists.

We're talking about a guy who believes in Sharia law, that believes that

this

Islamist sort of rule should happen.

And they're having this conversation in New York City.

What the hell is wrong with people in New York City?

Honestly, what the hell is wrong with you in New York City?

All right, go ahead, play the rest.

Is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.

Yeah, except

that is totally fault.

I worked with a Muslim community for many, many years.

Name a single mosque you went to when you were the governor.

Can you name a single mosque you went to in 10 years?

Whatever.

That's what you're doing.

Before I was here.

Before you were even in state government, I worked with a Muslim community.

Imams presided over state of the states.

We worked in religious working groups.

He couldn't visit a mosque.

It was anti-Semitic growth here.

Why would he be visiting mosques?

What is the purpose of that?

So he can gladhand a bunch of people while they're trying to go to church?

Why wouldn't you respond?

Name the synagogues that you've been to.

I mean, I don't know if he's been to synagogues, but I'm guessing

he's high up on his list.

He probably has just during this campaign just to do it.

But like,

it's a bizarre thing.

Like, is that how you run a city?

You run a city by going to visit various mosques?

That's now a requirement to run New York City?

To run anything?

It doesn't make any sense at all.

You shouldn't.

He's not Islamic.

Like,

any visit he would make to a mosque would be a political pandering gesture.

Yes.

Right?

Here's what's remarkable to me.

Did you see the price of gold yesterday?

What is it right now?

It was at

43.25 last time I checked it.

Yeah, 43.25.

It was in the 3000s a few days ago.

43.25.

That is a big warning sign.

You lose New York City.

That is our financial capital.

You start to take that city down and dismantle that city.

That affects all of us.

All of us.

And New York is just going down this insane road.

Like, yep, we want to give this a whirl.

Well, you're taking the rest of us down with you.

I mean, it is,

we need to pay attention.

Gold, the price of gold, is telling us something.

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I just don't know where to even

begin

to

make sense of the world

and how unhinged the left is from reality.

You know, when you have Jay Jones, because he was on, do we have any, do we have any of the audio from Jay Jones yesterday in his debate?

The guy is still, he's still running.

He's still running.

You know,

I wish that Republican, you know, was shot in the head.

I wish his children were shot and dying in the mother's arms and she was, and he's still running and they're cool with that.

Listen to this.

This is addressing the text during the debate last night, Cut7.

Now, tonight, you're going to hear two very different visions for the future of this Commonwealth.

And you're also going to hear from my opponent about text messages that I sent that I deeply, deeply regret.

Let me be very clear.

I am ashamed.

I am embarrassed.

And I am sorry.

Oh, yeah.

I am sorry to Speaker Gilbert.

I'm sorry to his family.

I'm sorry to my family.

And I'm sorry to every single Virginian.

I cannot take back what I said.

Yeah, but you know, there is something about being ashamed of something, so ashamed that you're like, I can't even face it.

This was so bad.

That didn't sound like I'm really ashamed of anything.

It didn't sound like I'm really sorry for anything.

This is the problem with this.

This is the chief law enforcement officer of the state.

When your chief law enforcement officer says, Yeah, the only way people change their positions is if they feel real pain, like being shot because of their political positions,

what does that mean as a law enforcement officer?

As the guy who's going after, does that mean because you want people to change their minds, you will excuse crime?

You will excuse things?

Well, yes.

And don't tell me it doesn't, because look what's happening to him now.

He's asking Virginians to excuse his heartfelt,

it was not a, it's not something off the top of your head.

We all make those mistakes.

This was something, he wasn't talking to a friend.

He was talking to somebody who said, hey, hey, hey, man, what are you doing?

I'm really uncomfortable.

And he doubled down.

This is something he believed deeply.

And now he's just asking you to look the other way.

I mean,

we really are in this place where I've never seen a greater divide in America because we're now talking truly about life and death principles.

You know,

that's really what we're talking about.

Life and death principles.

Is it okay to cheer for somebody to be killed or just to say, you know, that's the only way they're going to change their political ideology?

That's called terrorism.

That's what terrorism is.

You create terror and it forces your opponent to change their point of view politically.

You get what you want because you've terrorized them.

What is the difference between al-Qaeda

and what he's suggesting to do?

There's no, the planning meeting is exactly the same, except one, you end up with some virgins.

That's the only difference.

That's the only difference.

All right.

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Welcome back to the Glenbeck program.

I'm in Fort Wayne, Indiana today celebrating WoWo's 100th anniversary.

I'm back tonight for the fundraiser for the Mercury One gala tomorrow.

I have to tell you, I travel quite a bit and, you know, I get usual worn out like everybody else does.

And then I go to the White House and I see this president who is, I don't know, I don't know, 15 years older than me.

And the guy is powering through.

I mean, he had 36 hours without sleep, flying across the world, doing all kinds of stuff, meeting with everybody, holding press conferences.

He comes back, he holds a press conference, meets with Javier Millay.

Then does the Charlie Kirk thing.

Then I'm standing in the hallway of the White House and I'm seeing all these people, the vice president going into for a meeting, and then Secretary Rubios going in for a meeting.

Meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting.

Then he has a two-hour phone call with Putin.

I mean, when does this guy sleep?

How does he do it?

And that's a sincere question.

Eric Trump is with us now.

He's the author of a new book called Under Siege.

This is a compelling book.

Everyone should have this.

Anyone who says, oh, you know, look what they're doing.

I want you to read Under Siege.

I want you to see what the left did to the Trump organization and the Trump family.

Eric, welcome to the program.

How does your dad do this?

Listen, the guy's incredible, right?

I think I've told you this before, but I mean, he's the Energizer buddy in a suit, wearing a red tie on steroids.

The guy is remarkable.

My entire life, I've seen this.

What's amazing is so many of these kind of fake news journalists that you see that are on these kind of foreign trips with him,

they were the ones 10 years ago, Glenn, you know this better than anybody.

I think you reported on it better than anybody.

But will Donald Trump have the stamina to be president, right?

All right.

And literally, they're falling off of Air Force One.

Now they slept the entire time, you know, on the way over there and on the way back.

My father didn't sleep at all.

He goes over there.

He's in two stops in Israel.

Then he meets every world leader in Egypt.

He does private meetings.

He does two press conferences.

He flies back to Andrews Air Force Base, comes off, as you said,

meets with the whole Argentinian delegation, does Charlie Kirk.

You know,

I heard from him at 11.30 that night.

I mean, no, the guy is absolutely remarkable.

I mean, sleep isn't one of these things that we've ever had in our gene, but

the guy is beyond remarkable.

He does not stop.

He does not quit.

He does not cower.

He's a worker, and that's exactly what this country needs.

Has he always been, what is he, three hours, two hours of sleep a night?

What does he get?

Yeah, probably three hours.

I mean, yeah, he doesn't.

Do you have that in your family?

Do the rest of you guys have this in your genes?

Yeah, well, I did a podcast live from Israel last night at 2 a.m.

And

I was at it again this morning at 6.30.

So, yeah, we've never been good sleepers in our family.

And it's not that we're not good sleepers.

We just don't sleep much.

And, you know, he's one of these guys who's always been myopically focused on whatever he wanted to do at the time, right?

If it was real estate, he was myopically focused on a building.

If it was, you know, building a golf course, if it was the apprentice, he was myopically focused on every aspect of the show, of ratings, of PR for that show.

And certainly when he went to politics, it was the same thing, right?

Nothing else mattered.

He just, he's laser focused on whatever he wants to achieve.

And the guy's remarkable.

And right now, he is laser focused on the success of this country.

I've never seen somebody somebody just effectively X out the distractions as well as him, you know, the temptations, the other things, and just focus solely on one mission and put every ounce of their energy and heart and soul into achieving it.

He's a remarkable guy, and he's my best friend in the world.

And, you know,

I feel that I kind of take on that same trait.

What a cool thing to say about your father, that he's your best friend.

Before we talk quickly about the book, the Mom Donnie thing.

What the hell is wrong with New Yorkers?

I I mean, what is going to happen to New York if that guy wins?

Well, he's going to, I mean, I hate to say this, right?

I'm going to get criticized for saying that, but he's going to win.

He's promising free everything to everyone.

It's insane.

I mean, listen, I understand.

I'm just going to the economy to the rest of the United States.

Yeah, of course.

Well, that's what he's doing.

Listen, he's talking about how he's going to raise taxes in New York, and DeSantis in Florida, where I live, is talking about how he's going to get rid of all property taxes due to so much money has flowed into the state of Florida from New York.

I mean, think about the great

irony there.

I mean, you know, they said the top 18,500 taxpayers in New York City paid 85% of the taxes in New York City, and guess what?

They're all gone.

I mean, they left.

And it breaks my heart because I'm a guy that loves, I love New York, but they've destroyed it.

I don't know why everything needs to be a social experiment.

I mean, and I understand political bravado.

You probably understand political bravado better than any human being in the world.

The difference is he's on Martha McCallan yesterday on Fox News, and he literally says if Benjamin Netanyahu comes to New York, he's going to arrest him.

I mean, this is a major world leader.

Now, world leaders aren't going to want to come into New York City to the UN because out of fear of getting thrown in jail.

What is this human being doing?

He hates the NYPD.

He wants to defund them.

He hates the Indian population.

He says that Modi is a war criminal.

He obviously hates the Jews based on the fact that he wants to arrest Netanyahu.

He wants to nationalize grocery stores.

I mean, how about safe streets, clean streets, and just low taxes and let capitalism work and New York will be the greatest city in the world?

It's not a hard recipe.

We are a nation that is so divided, going in two different directions.

And

I mean, we're seeing it.

And if he gets in, and I think you're right, he's going to get in,

it's going to be stark.

What's going to happen to New York is going to be stark.

And the same thing with Jay Jones.

This, you know,

you guys know it.

You guys have been under attack, and they've been calling your father a fascist and everything else.

And then they try to kill him twice.

And, you know, you have Jay Jones who's just,

that was heartfelt.

That wasn't a slip of the tongue.

That wasn't a joke.

That was heartfelt.

The people he was talking to tried to stop him from saying it, saying, don't say these things.

This is horrible.

Well, you got to do that.

The only way to make people change their political viewpoint is to cause them pain in their life.

You're talking about killing his children.

But that's what they did under siege.

They wanted me gone.

They wanted me killed in every way, shape, or form, both physically and otherwise.

I became the most appended person in American history for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

I've never gotten a speeding ticket, Blen.

And

they wanted me gone.

They wanted me off that stage.

They wanted to divide our family.

That's why they made up the dirty dossiers.

That's why they made up the stories about golden, you know, what's the prostitutes, which are paid for by Hillary Clinton.

That's why they made up the fact that we had secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating with the Kremlin.

That's why they threw us off of Twitter and YouTube and Instagram and Facebook.

That's why they put the gag orders on our family.

That's why they brought us into court every single day, 91 indictments.

We spent $400 million defending ourselves based on BS.

That's why they threw my father off that ballot in Maine and Colorado.

That's why they leaked our tax returns, mine, my father's, everybody in our family, everybody, all the executives of our company, they leaked our tax returns to the New York Times, the IRS.

They raided our home.

They raided Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, where do you want me to stop?

They were planting classified folders on the floor of my father's office, taking photo shoots of them and sending them to the New York Times.

You had Tomey

leaking to the New York Times as FBI director every day in an effort to undermine my father.

They were spying on our campaign.

I could go on for another two hours.

I mean, those are just a couple of the obvious ones.

They put us under siege.

They wanted to inflict harm.

They wanted to inflict pain.

They wanted to see us in a jail cell.

They wanted to see us bankrupt.

They wanted to see us voiceless.

And when I say us, it's not just the Trump family.

It's you.

It's all of your listeners.

They were weaponizing the IRS against conservative organizations, against churches, against pastors, right?

I mean,

they implemented DEI, so so many great people missed promotions in their workplace to somebody who was far less qualified, all based on some fictitious standard.

Blenny, they were coming after all of us, and that's the story of the siege.

The siege just wasn't against our family.

It was against the entire conservative movement and everybody who loved God and the Constitution and the American flag and just wanted to make America great again.

And that's the story of Under Siege.

I have to tell you,

I think this book is so important historically.

And for anybody who has anyone in their family who is saying the things, the CNN had a chiron on the bottom of the screen,

the banner on the bottom of the screen,

and it said, third Trump enemy to be indicted in 21 days.

And they were making the case that Comey, James, and Bolton are all being indicted because your dad has a thing against him and just wants to

politically go after his enemies.

And I saw that and I thought, who are you people that you actually believe that

if Donald Trump wanted to respond in kind, it wouldn't be with three people.

I mean, this is such a small response if it was a response and it's all being done by the book and they will never admit what they did to your family.

That's why I think the book is under siege.

Get it.

That's why it's important.

But anyway, go ahead.

It was all coordinated.

I mean, Letitia James was going to the White House, and Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade were going to the White House

and, you know, the vice president's house.

They were all going to the White House.

It was all being coordinated.

You know, remember, when they raided Mar-a-Lago, they said the raid was on behalf of NARA, the National Archives, which is effectively a public library in Washington, D.C.

You think a public library raids...

Mar-a-lago, the former president's house, probably most famous house on earth?

Give me a break, right?

And honestly, what I would say is if you have that liberal sister or liberal brother or a liberal family member, I hope you could give them this book and just allow them to read the first three chapters.

And I think they'll say, wow, you know, regardless of where you stand on certain political issues,

their jaw will hit the floor because

the state was so fundamentally un-American.

It was so wrong on every front.

And I want people, and I don't want revisionist history be able to change the narrative because you know that's exactly what they do.

They're better at revisionist history than anybody in the history of the the world.

Look, just look at Wikipedia and look at the facts.

They can't change the narrative, and it had to be documented for all time.

And

I think that's why this book's gone parabolic.

I mean, it's number one on Amazon.

It has been for the last week.

It has gone absolutely viral.

It is selling off the charts.

And

it's, I think, people are upset.

I mean, Glenn, people are really upset, and it's mainly your audience and the people who love this nation, love our flag, and love God.

And they're pissed off.

They're really pissed off.

In the book, you warn about the threats to liberty.

And I have to tell you, if J.D.

Vance or whoever doesn't win in 28 and we lose control of Congress,

I think the vengeance that is coming, I mean, these are vengeful people.

What should individuals do?

What are you guys doing?

to avoid the next onslaught should that happen?

You know, it's funny, it's their only playbook.

Their old playbook used to be identity politics, and that was the only playbook that they were good at.

Their policy sucked, but they played identity politics.

You're racist, right?

And, you know, yet, yes, we picked up more African-American votes than any conservatives ever.

You're anti-Semitic, which is kind of funny considering my sister is Jewish, and my father's been the greatest thing for Israel ever.

You know, you're sexist, right?

We heard that for years.

It's kind of funny.

My father's the only person who's ever had a female campaign manager, and he did it twice, both in Kellyanne Conway, who won in 2016, and obviously Susie Wiles, who won in 2024.

You know, I mean, you go down the list, you're fascist, yet they're shooting one of my close friends in the neck, you know, dressed in black from a rooftop across the heads of college kids as they exercise free speech, right?

I mean, they used to be good at identity politics.

Now that's all falling apart.

You know, they, and so now what they do is because they've lost the narrative, they turn to violence.

And that's why we see, you know, friends of ours getting shot in the neck.

That's why they tried to kill my father.

You know,

when dialogue breaks down, they just turn violent.

And that's why you see those text messages you saw from the AG candidate in Virginia.

They know no other game other than weaponize and rig a system.

We saw them rig a system in 2020.

There's not a single person in this country, including Barack Obama, who thinks that Joe Biden got 16 million more votes than Barack Obama.

And I'm shocked that no one's ever asked Barack Obama, do you really believe that Joe Biden got 16 million more votes than you did in 2012?

I'd love to see the reaction on his face, and I'd love to see him try and answer that because everybody knows this.

All the Democrats are good at are rigging a system.

And so, do I have any doubt that they're going to play their games again?

Absolutely not.

It's like how these people are bred.

It's like it's all they know in their genetic code.

I only have about 40 seconds here for you to answer and answer if you want.

If Mom Donnie wins, when Mom Donnie wins, will the Trump organization stay in New York?

I mean, we've already moved to Florida.

You know, we still have offices in New York and we have a lot of assets in New York, but I love that city.

I love that state.

New York is untouchable if you just had confidence.

If I ran New York, safe streets, clean streets, low taxes, and let capitalism do what it does best, and nothing could beat New York.

No state could beat New York.

No city in the world could beat New York, but they're incapable of doing that.

Everything has to be a social experiment.

Everything has to be this kind of, you know, experimental Petri dish.

It's such a shame, and it's not going to be good for the state.

Are we hearing a future headline?

Eric Trump running for mayor of New York at some point?

Oh, definitely not mayor of New York now.

Please don't give me nightmares, please.

I love the song, Giant David.

I'm a Floridian true and true.

Yeah.

Eric, thank you so much.

Good to talk to you again.

The name of the book is Under Siege.

I can't recommend it highly enough.

This is what everybody is arguing, that Donald Trump is

doing all these fascist things.

You want to know what Under Siege actually is?

Read Under Siege, available wherever books are sold.

Eric, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

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Well, I noticed you didn't even talk about the parade.

I'm sorry, the what?

The big parade debate at the New York City mayoral debate yesterday when they said

which parades will you boycott?

And Curtis Sleewa let it off with the fact that he's staunchly pro-parade.

Andrew Cuomo said he would only skip parades that discriminated.

Mom Donnie said he would not be attending some parades because he'd be working.

Then they asked, Were there any parades the city needed to add to the calendar?

Mom Donnie said, I don't know, haven't thought about parades.

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And Sliwa said, Every parade has the right to exist.

So there you go, there's your debate.

Good luck, New York.

Good luck.

Good night.

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