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Speaker 2 John Solomon is with us. He is the CEO and editor

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John, I have made a promise to my audience a long time ago.

Speaker 2 I do my best not to waste their time. And as I am looking through the things I want to talk to you about, I have to start with this question.

Speaker 2 Is any of this going to mean anything in the end? Or is this, are we just spinning our wheels and wasting our time talking about how deep this scandal with James Comey is is becoming?

Speaker 6 That is a great question, and I don't think history has answered it yet.

Speaker 6 It will really depend on the tenacity and the focus of the Justice Department, the prosecutors, and the jurors that are going to catch these cases, right?

Speaker 6 Are they willing to rise above politics and say, we don't want an FBI that goes after people based on their political color, not the quality of the evidence against them.

Speaker 6 And that is what began in 2015 on James Comey's watch, a different type of FBI that seemed to go after Donald Trump and his associates regardless of evidence and protect Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden, even though the evidence against them was pretty strong, as we ultimately found out from the IRS whistleblower.

Speaker 6 So we don't know yet. Listen, these are going to go to trial if the judge lets them go to trial.

Speaker 6 The judge in the Comey case seems to be giving the prosecutors a hard time there already, but that's going to be litigated. It's probably going to go up to the appeals court and the Supreme Court.

Speaker 6 These are going to be long battles. But the question for everyone is, is the fight worth it? I think if you don't punish the people that created this mentality, you have death America for a long time.

Speaker 6 Banana Republic prosecution

Speaker 6 arc. And I think that's not what Americans want.
They want to be able to say the FBI is above politics. It hasn't been in the last decade until maybe the last few months that they're cash patel.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let's talk about what the new evidence is,

Speaker 2 the burn bags,

Speaker 2 the hidden rooms, and the evidence that now has been found that shows

Speaker 2 Comey looks like he was lying to Congress when he said, no, I didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah. So let's remind people what the alleged lie is, what he's been accused of and indicted of lying.

Speaker 6 He told Congress in 2017 and then reaffirmed unequivocally in 2020 that he never asked any of his staff to anonymously leak or provide information to the news media.

Speaker 6 The government, Cash Patel, found significant documents that go to the contrary.

Speaker 6 Found these under John Durham, but they chose not to go after James Comey. So in the Bill Barr administration, they knew the same evidence and they didn't go after him.
But

Speaker 6 what is the lie? He told Congress, I didn't

Speaker 6 two things. One, I never authorized anyone to leak to the media anonymously about the Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump cases.

Speaker 6 And two, I don't think I knew anything about a intelligence intercept that Hillary Clinton was setting up a fake Russian collusion hoax that we then ended up investigating.

Speaker 6 Well, what we now know, first, is that his own emails with his own top lieutenant, Daniel Richmond, a former lawyer who he brought in as a special government employee of the FBI, that he's an FBI employee, show that James Comey told Richmond,

Speaker 6 good job, and make them wiser as he was briefing them on how he was anonymously trying to spin the New York Times and provide information to the New York Times about the Hillary Clinton case.

Speaker 6 So directly on point to the

Speaker 6 testimony he gave. I didn't authorize anyone to leak about Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 6 Their emails show his guy was leaking and he was affirming it and say, go ahead and even encouraging him to make that reporter wiser. In other words, give them more information anonymously.

Speaker 2 So that's the first lie.

Speaker 6 Second lie. Right.
And by the way, a grand jury bought that evidence and said, we believe you lied.

Speaker 6 Now there's a second piece to it. And that is what we call the Clinton plan intelligence.
Was Comey, as John Brennan claimed and as other evidence showed, did Comey know? Did he pay attention?

Speaker 6 Did he have some awareness that as his FBI was starting to investigate the Russia collusion cruise, the hoax, that Hillary Clinton had been intercepted or her people have been intercepted showing that she approved the plan to to create this hoax.

Speaker 6 He said, doesn't ring through me. I don't think I knew about it.
Well,

Speaker 6 in a locker, in a burn bag, they found some handwritten notes of James Comey that appear to include the briefing from John Brenning, where he clearly knew that Hillary Clinton

Speaker 6 had been intercepted, approving, or her team had been intercepted, saying she approved this plan to hang a fake Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign house.

Speaker 2 Now, those are handwritten notes. That's his notes.
Yeah, that is in his handwriting that

Speaker 2 he clearly understood. And so now you've got him

Speaker 2 on two really significant lies that show that this whole thing was

Speaker 2 they were in collusion with one another, and all of this was bogus, and they knew it from the beginning.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 6 And that's why, you know, when you look at this, and then let's take the third back of this, those notes were never produced in earlier subpoenas to Congress or other investigations.

Speaker 6 They were found in a room where it appears, according to the government, there was an effort to get rid of or hide this evidence.

Speaker 6 So it had been hidden from prior subpoenas, according to the government, according to Lindsey Halligan's prosecution. And then Jume,

Speaker 6 it looked like they were in burn bags and almost burned, meaning they would never be there. Now, some other people said, oh, well, there's electronic records of it.

Speaker 6 It turns out, according to the government, there was no electronic record of the notes, meaning if they had been burned or destroyed or hidden, we would never have had them.

Speaker 6 Now, why would James Comey want to lie about this? Because as we see in these same emails, it appears he had a motive.

Speaker 6 His motive, as he wrote his colleague, is, I fully expect to be working for president-elect Hillary Clinton. He's talking this way before the election in 2016.

Speaker 6 He thought Hillary was going to be his boss. And as he wrote Dan Richmond, he said, I think Hillary Clinton will be, quote, unquote, pleased by the way I handled her email case.

Speaker 6 In other words, he deep fixed it in July. He reopened it and cleared her a second time.
And when the smoke cleared, Hillary would like him and keep him on as FBI director.

Speaker 6 That is the insinuation of those notes.

Speaker 2 So if he was invented.

Speaker 2 I want to give the exact phrase he wrote. A president-elect Clinton will be very grateful.

Speaker 6 Yeah, grateful. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 Right. You're right.

Speaker 6 Grateful. So

Speaker 6 he expected that to be the outcome. If that's his mindset in the fall of 2016, and he opens up an investigation on Hillary Clinton, what we now know to be a ruse, bad evidence,

Speaker 6 an agency had to lie to the FISA court to get the FISA warrants.

Speaker 6 If his motive was that or his thinking was that, he probably is not going to want to admit that I was warned that maybe this was all a joke before I allowed this investigation to go forward, before I affixed my name to a FISA warrant that the courts have now said was misleading, false, and violated the law.

Speaker 6 So that is the context in which the prosecutors are going to try to bring this case.

Speaker 6 Now, it's going to be in Northern Virginia, where there are a lot of federal workers and a lot of anti-Trump sentiment. Can they get a conviction? We don't know.
But is it worth trying to do it?

Speaker 6 Most people I talk to say yes, because the alternative is you have, by inaction,

Speaker 6 sanctioned it, which is what Bill Barr and John Durham did by not bringing this prosecution in 2020.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 All right. Can I switch topics? There's something that came out today: James Comey's daughter

Speaker 2 and the Epstein case apparently James Comey's daughter sent a message to Epstein that if you don't even have to prove it but if you can show us anything that ties Donald Trump to this

Speaker 2 it's going to go a lot easier for you can you give me this story

Speaker 6 Yeah, I've seen it. I've not been able to corroborate that.
So I'm always,

Speaker 6 in this world of media today, I try to be super careful because it's hard to know if things are true or true to dig in. I haven't found anyone yet who seems to know the proof on that.
It's possible.

Speaker 6 Who knows? I mean, prosecutors make these sort of deals all the time.

Speaker 6 And as we know, it seems in the last decade or two, I think when you got to go back to the era of the Ted Stevens prosecution, the IRS

Speaker 6 pursuit of conservative groups, and maybe the prosecution, which turned out to be malicious and wrong of Virginia Governor McDonald.

Speaker 6 There is a culture that began at the beginning or around the time of the Obama era where winning for prosecutors is more important than winning fairly or on the strength of the evidence.

Speaker 6 And that's why these cases ultimately got overturned. That mentality exists in the Justice Department.

Speaker 6 And then when you add the nature of politics, the Trump derangement syndrome that seems to come in in 2015, you have a very dangerous prosecutorial and law enforcement system that's easily weaponized and can easily cheat.

Speaker 6 And unless you've got multi-million dollar lawyers, you're probably going to get hosed because very few people are going to find the grounds to overturn this.

Speaker 6 And that is the crushing power of the state that Jim Jordan talks about, Chuck Grassley talks about, that Donald Trump wants to reform.

Speaker 6 And I don't know in this case whether

Speaker 6 Mrs. Comey did, Ms.
Comey did this or not yet, because I can't find anyone that can confirm yet. But if I do, I'll come back to you.

Speaker 6 But the scenario that's described does go on, and we've seen it, and it's very, very troubling.

Speaker 6 There's a case coming up soon in New York where the SEC has to admit that there were journalists writing fake stories that then were used to justify investigations of companies, some of them conservative.

Speaker 6 This system of cheating to get a consequence, regardless of whether it's warranted, is something we all got to take a deep breath and start to really fix.

Speaker 6 We've got to fix it, or we're not going to be any different than Venezuela and Iran.

Speaker 2 I will tell you that I'm so glad to say that you said I can't confirm this. I haven't found a source to confirm it.

Speaker 2 Because when I read that story, it looks as though one of the people that is telling this story is the guy who is in jail with Epstein, who would also

Speaker 2 have motive for making something like this up. So, you know, I don't want to exonerate her and I don't want to condemn her.
I just want the truth. And he doesn't seem like a reliable source.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think we got to go get the evidence and try to see if it's true. Listen, it's a lead.
It's something that someone has said. Let's check it out and true, find out if it's true.

Speaker 6 We learned that Russia collusion wasn't true. I think we're going to learn that most of Ukraine impeachment wasn't true.

Speaker 6 And I think today we just got to dig in first, get the facts. But

Speaker 6 we will

Speaker 6 do that. I promise I'll get back to you as soon as I know what I can find out from the government.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Thank you, John.
I appreciate all your hard work.

Speaker 2 John Solomon,

Speaker 2 from Just the News, go to justthenews.com, follow him.

Speaker 2 John Solomon, J. Solomon Reports on X.

Speaker 2 But he is an old school journalist,

Speaker 2 investigative reporter who's worked for everybody until everybody was like, you can't say those things. That's our side.
And then he just left and did his own thing. And I'm very grateful for it.

Speaker 2 Editor-in-chief and CEO of Just the News, John Solomon. Back in just a minute.

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I don't know if you saw the

Speaker 2 visualizing the American dream, Stu.

Speaker 2 You know, what the American dream actually is, is that you can forge your own way. You can, you know,

Speaker 2 you can have a scrap of land and grow your own food if you want. You can, you know, go to school, not go to school.

Speaker 2 You can find a job, and if you're qualified for it, you have, you know, an equal chance of getting it, you know, based on merit.

Speaker 2 But the percentage of Americans who say their dream, the American dream is retirement, is 86%.

Speaker 2 Healthcare, 86%,

Speaker 2 owning a home, 85.

Speaker 2 Raising two kids, 78. Owning a car, 72.
Vacations, 71. Pets, 66.

Speaker 2 A wedding, 55%. That's the American dream.
I can get married.

Speaker 2 The American Dream, if that's what you think, they've now estimated the cost per household over the cost, over

Speaker 2 a lifetime. Retirement

Speaker 2 is $1.6 million.

Speaker 2 Owning a home now, 30-year mortgage, 20% down payment is $957,594.

Speaker 2 Owning a car, buying and financing two new cars every 10 years is now $900,000 over your lifetime. Raising two kids to 18 plus four years of public college, $876,092.

Speaker 2 Two kids. Healthcare over your lifetime, spending from ages 22 to 85, $414,000.
vacations,

Speaker 2 annual vacation from 22 to 85, $180,000. One dog and one cat for 11 to 13 years is $40,000.

Speaker 2 That's more expensive than a wedding. The engagement ring, the ceremony, and the reception is now estimated to be $38,200.

Speaker 2 There's a reason socialism is doing well.

Speaker 2 You look at that and you're like, wow. I mean, if that's the American dream, and for a lot of people, that is the American dream.

Speaker 2 That's not what the American dream is supposed to be. But, you know, once, you know, once Woodrow Wilson and FDR got a hold of us and they started advertising, it became stuff.

Speaker 2 Instead of freedom, it became stuff.

Speaker 2 And, you know, when there's a new report out, let me see if I have that. There's a new report out now that shows

Speaker 2 first-time homebuyers made up just 21% of the home purchases. That's the lowest on record.
The typical age of repeat buyers hit an all-time high of 62.

Speaker 2 The median down payments reaching 23%, the highest since 2003.

Speaker 2 And also,

Speaker 2 where is it? The last one is

Speaker 2 the median age for first-time homebuyers.

Speaker 2 In 1981, it was 29 years old. I'm sorry.
Yeah, 29 years old. In 2021, it was 33 years old.

Speaker 2 What is it this year? Median age, first-time homeowner.

Speaker 2 40.

Speaker 2 You're 40 before you can buy any kind of home.

Speaker 2 That puts these things that people want, dream about out of reach until you're 40.

Speaker 2 You know, 29 is one thing, but if you're not seeing, you're not seeing, you know, your life really kind of settling down until you're 40,

Speaker 2 I can understand why you're like, you know what, this system doesn't work because you've never seen it work. It's betrayed you.

Speaker 2 Or so you've been sold. It's betrayed you.

Speaker 2 And everything is being pushed out of your reach. And when you're young, the one thing you are not is is patient.

Speaker 2 And at 40, I can see why people are not, you know,

Speaker 2 yeah, well, socialism neat because

Speaker 2 capitalism isn't working.

Speaker 2 How would you respond to that?

Speaker 3 I mean, it's more lengthy than we have time for, but I would say that

Speaker 3 the response to,

Speaker 3 you know, you thinking that you want a home is not to embrace an ideology that murders 100 million people.

Speaker 3 That's not a good answer to the problem that you think you have.

Speaker 2 But they're not learning that anywhere. They're not, that is our responsibility to teach those things because they're not learning it anywhere.
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Speaker 2 You know, we've been talking about, about, you know, socialism, and Donald Trump is getting pilloried in the press for calling Momdani a communist.

Speaker 2 And I find this ritual here that we're going, you know, through is just, you say the word socialist.

Speaker 2 And, you know, 25 years ago, when I said that these people were socialist, everybody said, oh my gosh, you can't call them socialist. I thought, all right, I said, the mask is going to come off.

Speaker 2 They can't wait to tell you that they're socialists. Now Donald Trump said, you know, Mom Dani is a communist.
And everybody is like, oh, my gosh, look at this hysteric from the Cold War.

Speaker 2 He's just, he's out of a Cold War radio drama.

Speaker 2 So let me just clear this here

Speaker 2 because the difference between the two terms, you know, is

Speaker 2 really not some great firewall of virtue here.

Speaker 2 As if one leads to like Scandinavian candles and the other one leads to gulags.

Speaker 2 That's not what's happening. What we've forgotten here is what always is forgotten, and that is how Karl Marx actually talked and saw the two.
He didn't draw, you know, polite little distinctions.

Speaker 2 He described socialism as the transition, the necessary scaffolding that leads to communism. That's Karl Marx.
So socialism for Karl Marx was the road, not the destination.

Speaker 2 Communism is the end of that road.

Speaker 2 He wrote an essay, The Critique of gotha program and marx said under socialism from each according to his ability to each according to his contribution under communism to each according to his needs the only difference here is timing it's not philosophy it's not goals it's just how far along the revolution you are okay

Speaker 2 socialism is the bridge to communism According to Karl Marx, don't take it from me. Communism is the completion of socialism.

Speaker 2 It's the antithesis of a free market system. Even Lenin called socialism the first and necessary phase of communism.
So it's not partisan rhetoric.

Speaker 2 This is the literal architecture of Marxist thought.

Speaker 2 But can we get out of the theories of all of this? History gives us warning.

Speaker 2 much more vivid than any theory. You know, we like to imagine that the worst horrors of the 20th century came from one beast alone.

Speaker 2 And we think that's Hitler. But actually a bigger beast was Stalin.
But if you want to look at Germany from 1930 to 1945, you see something really uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 A socialist movement that curdled into something monstrous while it never called itself communist. In fact, the Nazi government, the National Socialists, the Nazis, were not communists.

Speaker 2 They were against the communists. They killed communists.

Speaker 2 But they shared the same foundational belief that the individual is disposable and that the state defines the truth.

Speaker 2 They both believe that rights are not given by God, but administered by political power. And that dissent on any of this has to be crushed for the good of the collective.
That is...

Speaker 2 That's the definition we should care about. Socialism doesn't have to go full Marx communism to become catastrophic.
It just has to replace the individual conscience with the will of the state.

Speaker 2 And don't you see that's what's happening here?

Speaker 2 They'll crush you. They'll destroy you.
You disagree with them. They'll destroy you, even if you've been on their side.

Speaker 2 I'm going to share a story with you of something from 1979 that happened that I don't think most people understand. And in New York, you better understand this.

Speaker 2 When a society accepts the premise that premise history shows the

Speaker 2 the slide can accelerate from a utopian promise to industrialized cruelty horror show like that Germany saw it Russia saw it China saw it Cambodia saw it North Korea Venezuela Cuba

Speaker 2 I mean, it's all right there, just different flags, different slogans, but it's the same structural error.

Speaker 2 So can we stop with this mocking of the language? You know, people laughing. Oh,

Speaker 2 he said Mom Donnie is a communist, but he's just merely a socialist. You're missing the point entirely.

Speaker 2 The issue is not whether the label is technically perfect. The issue is the philosophical DNA is exactly the same.

Speaker 2 Collectivism over the individual. State control over personal agency.
Central planning over free will,

Speaker 2 and that the belief that human nature can be engineered by political force. That's where it always goes wrong.
It doesn't understand human nature.

Speaker 2 So you can argue all you want about where socialism ends and where communism begins, but honestly, that's like, hey, kids, memorize the date of this war.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 I'm never going to use that fact again. What difference does it make? The thing we should care about is why was that war fought? What happened at the end of that war?

Speaker 2 When communism and socialism, we should be saying, where does that road lead?

Speaker 2 I can tell you that the road always begins with the state controlling your choices. Okay.
It'll control your choice of energy, money, your children's education, your speech, your job, what you drive.

Speaker 2 And it always ends with never greater liberty.

Speaker 2 It always ends the same place in a society that has forgotten that freedom is fragile, that power concentrates, that people are the same over and over and over again, human beings.

Speaker 2 They go bad, especially when you give them power, when they're told they're part of a grand collective, humans are willing to commit horrors they would never do as an individual.

Speaker 2 That's the biggest thing. You get these horror shows of a hundred million dead because it's a collective.

Speaker 2 We're all doing it. I'm not doing it.
Everybody's doing it.

Speaker 2 That's the warning.

Speaker 2 That's historical.

Speaker 2 And we ignore it at our own peril.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 The problem here is, is that socialism is on the rise and communism will be next. Remember, when I first started talking about Obama,

Speaker 2 I was raked across the roll of the road of the Kohls every day for even suggesting he might kind of like socialism.

Speaker 2 Now, socialism is fine.

Speaker 2 So that road is still going to, we're going to continue rolling down that road. And any country that goes into socialism, we're not talking about a capitalist, we're not talking about Sweden anymore.

Speaker 2 In fact, we are actually talking about Sweden.

Speaker 2 Look at the road they're going down now. I mean, they're going into their own kind of authoritarian rule with Sharia law.
That is coming to Sweden. We're not talking about this friendly socialism.

Speaker 2 We're talking about the complete abandonment of the free market entirely. We've been this stupid little hybrid hybrid that doesn't work.
It only causes misery.

Speaker 2 We've been this hybrid, and it doesn't work in a country this large and a country this diverse.

Speaker 2 But look, if you're, you know,

Speaker 2 if you grew up after 9-11,

Speaker 2 where have you seen capitalism work for you?

Speaker 2 Okay, you've seen, I know I've seen it. I've seen the rich get richer.
And I don't mean the rich.

Speaker 2 I mean the really, really, really, really rich. The ones that the Democrats never actually talk about.
They say they hate the rich. The rich have to pay their fair share.

Speaker 2 But they're hanging out with George Soros.

Speaker 2 They're hanging out with the Ford Foundation. They're hanging out with Bezos and all of these other people because

Speaker 2 that is real control. Okay.

Speaker 2 They don't hate those guys. They never do anything to affect their taxes.
They don't pay taxes because they have the money to put it into trusts and everything else. You don't have that.

Speaker 2 So when I say I've seen it happen, I've seen the rich get richer. You know who the rich are? Citibank.

Speaker 2 These banks that have been taking our money through bailouts.

Speaker 2 When do we get that money back? When do you get that money back?

Speaker 2 You don't.

Speaker 2 You don't. That's why this is working.
That's why you can say socialism is neat because nobody knows the killing machine that socialism actually is.

Speaker 2 Nobody has any idea. Look at the killing machine.
Look at the killing machine that's being built in socialist Canada right now.

Speaker 2 What is it? Made is the third or fourth biggest killer.

Speaker 2 It kills one in every 20 Canadians. Why is that happening? That's not out of compassion.
That's because they're running out of money for health care. That's what that's about.
Get them off the dole.

Speaker 2 Stop it. Now, if they're earning a lot of money, get them in because we can still get their money.

Speaker 2 But let's make sure they're making money.

Speaker 2 If they're getting old, if they are crippled, if they've fought in a war and just can't handle it themselves, if they're super, super young, if they've got an expensive cancer, let them die help them die

Speaker 2 that that's because they're looking at the collective not the individual

Speaker 2 and that's that's the beginning of the dark killing machine in a socialist country

Speaker 2 and canada is

Speaker 2 you know i mean it has socialized medicine the problem is it's all failing socialism always fails capitalism has taken people out of poverty, solved problems, healed people, given people heat and houses and cars and airplanes.

Speaker 2 All of that is because of the free market. All of that is the free market.
You get rid of the free market. You put it in the hands of governments.

Speaker 2 And you have monsters, monsters.

Speaker 2 And we know it because we've seen it over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 if you,

Speaker 2 if,

Speaker 2 if you don't remember or barely remember 9-11, you've never been taught any of this. You've never been taught what it actually means.
So you're seeing this play out over and over again.

Speaker 2 Look at that guy. I mean, look at, he's not going to have to pay a price.
He's just going to get away with it. And he's taking our tax dollars.
Okay. I hate all of that.

Speaker 2 This capitalist system. It's corrupt.

Speaker 2 You're seeing seeing that play out in real time. You're not seeing anybody actually go to jail for these things.
Of course, you think that it does. I don't think it works the way it is right now.

Speaker 2 But then you're given this false utopian promise without any information.

Speaker 2 Read the warning label on socialism. Where has it ever worked?

Speaker 2 Show me where it has worked. And don't say Sweden.

Speaker 2 Sweden is falling apart right now. You know why? Because Sweden, everybody was blonde-hair, blue-eyed.

Speaker 2 They were all related to each other. It was a small little country.
You can do it when everybody is the same and it's small. It'll work

Speaker 2 to some degree.

Speaker 2 But the minute you start going diverse, the whole thing falls apart. So you want to be Sweden? Go ahead.
Look at Sweden today. I don't want to be Sweden.

Speaker 2 Read the warning label. That's our job to show that warning label.

Speaker 2 It's our job to teach what's not being taught. This

Speaker 2 is a death cult.

Speaker 2 Stay away from it. Warning.

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Speaker 3 Yes, that's me today on this topic. Because I just, I can't take the, oh, gosh, these young people, they can't afford the things they want.

Speaker 3 We should instead entertain their socialist pleas and act like they're rational because they don't think they can afford a house fast enough.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 3 I'm so sorry to hear that.

Speaker 3 You know, I get it. Like, I understand you don't want to just dismiss people

Speaker 3 and their complaints. But by the way, the data doesn't really back up any of this.
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Speaker 3 Gen Z and millennials and below have a higher higher generational wealth than their previous generations it is higher yes it's adjusted for inflation in case you were about to say that it is higher they are above where boomers were they are above where gen xers were at this time and this is a lot of this is overblown and and and it's funny because you started all this with like what's the american dream oh people want to buy you know buy a house and it shouldn't be about that it should be about freedom and then the way we judge whether the american dream is happening is whether they can afford a house.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, the idea of whether you own or rent is not a determinant factor as to whether your happiness is there. I was very happy when I rented, very happy when I owned.

Speaker 3 Having ownership of a house is not a

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Speaker 2 I would have to say

Speaker 2 I don't know if I've ever seen you happy. So

Speaker 2 as he comes off his back porch to stop yelling at the clouds, I just have to say, I think that's wholly inaccurate.

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Speaker 2 Hello, America. Yesterday, I told you about the January 6th pipe bomber.

Speaker 2 Steve Baker, who is a journalist for, an investigative journalist for the Blaze, has written a story

Speaker 2 naming the pipe bomber.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it is now gone up the chain of command. It was supposed to be released today.
I don't know if we're still, hopefully maybe some point later today.

Speaker 2 But I want to find out why it has stalled. Yesterday, things in Washington and especially in the Intel community went nuts because of what we talked about on the air.

Speaker 2 And there is a there's a big battle and I want to talk to Steve about that coming up in just a second.

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Speaker 2 Do it now. Steve, welcome back to the program.
You're in Washington today.

Speaker 2 So you have a very clear view on what is happening. What happened since we talked last night or yesterday at this time?

Speaker 8 Actually, you and I spun up a lot of people yesterday.

Speaker 8 A lot of good people that are working on this, that have the country's best interests at heart.

Speaker 8 There's some not so good people that got spun up yesterday as well. But the good people that have the country's interests at heart and have the president's

Speaker 8 mind and agenda at the forefront of what they're looking to do are continuing to work on this. So

Speaker 8 we've hit the pause button right now.

Speaker 2 Have they asked us to hit the pause button?

Speaker 8 Obviously, they can't tell us what to do.

Speaker 8 They can't tell us.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 it has been explained very clearly that we need time basically to be sure that we have all the covering fire that we need, that they can connect the final dots.

Speaker 8 You know, as I mentioned to you yesterday when you asked me,

Speaker 8 what's the percentage of likelihood that we have the right person? And, you know, I explained that with the technology we use, it got us initially started at 94%, and then we were up to around

Speaker 8 96 to 98% after the human

Speaker 8 analysis of all of this. But we would like to get it to 100%.

Speaker 8 And part of that is going to be incumbent upon keeping the right people that we need on our on our team, on our side. And

Speaker 8 that means sometimes working at their pace.

Speaker 2 This is when people hear the story,

Speaker 2 they're going to realize

Speaker 2 how deep the deep state goes.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so much is going to start making sense. And if your story is accurate,

Speaker 2 there's only one winner. There's only one winner.
It's either the deep state or

Speaker 2 the good guys that are coming in and saying, no more of this. Because it is

Speaker 2 from just from what I have seen. And I haven't even read the full story.
I've just gotten a brief on it. From what I've seen,

Speaker 2 it's everywhere. And so I'm gathering what you're saying is

Speaker 2 they need time to shore up to make sure they have the right people in place in several different areas. Because when this hits, this is really not good.
It's really bad.

Speaker 8 Well, it's a game changer on every level.

Speaker 8 That's what we're looking at here.

Speaker 8 This is not only going to be the biggest story of my career when it comes out, but I mean, this is, as you properly identified for the most part yesterday, this is at least the largest scandal in a generation, if not going further back.

Speaker 8 And it does go deep and it goes high. And that's what we have to get right.

Speaker 8 Because as I said, we spun up a lot of people and a lot of people are talking right now about what you and I discussed yesterday on this program.

Speaker 2 I have to believe just hearing what

Speaker 2 you said yesterday and what we talked about on this program yesterday, I got to believe

Speaker 2 if the story is accurate and

Speaker 2 you were part of it you have to be freaking out right now because once you name names uh you know there's only only two ways to go only two ways to go uh one side will be destroyed and the other the other side will remain standing can you give me the history of this investigation at all give me some sort of understanding of of how you got to where you are

Speaker 8 yeah it's very interesting in that up until two weeks ago you know, this pipe bomb thing was going nowhere.

Speaker 8 Even the FBI had apparently, I won't say they had given up on it, but two weeks ago they re-upped the $500,000 reward.

Speaker 8 They sent out the tip lines begging the American public to give them some tips and some leads on this particular thing.

Speaker 8 That was pretty much an indication and a signal that they were dead in their tracks. And then two weeks ago, when I presented it to the people that I presented it to, it was game on again.
And then

Speaker 8 things started moving very quickly. I thought we would be at the place where we could knock this thing out of the park today.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 the history on this is very simple.

Speaker 8 Within the first days after January 6th, I was informed by members of our actual special operations community and the military that there were more

Speaker 8 elements that needed to be looked at and more things that were happening on the ground at the Capitol than anybody had yet been aware of and had seen.

Speaker 8 And so over the next few weeks, and we're talking about 2021 here, I began to pull some of those threads that we talked about yesterday.

Speaker 8 And as I began to pull those threads, I became very interested in certain actors.

Speaker 8 I then began to see the coordination between actors not only in the crowd, but actors in the police department, particularly the Capitol Police. That was one of the reasons why that my investigations,

Speaker 8 it was my investigations into the Capitol Police that

Speaker 8 brought my work to the attention of the Blaise.

Speaker 8 And that was when we revealed, as you recall, the trial perjuries of a couple of federal officers.

Speaker 8 And in fact, they were Capitol Police officers, a special agent on the dignitary protection detail, and then, of course, the most famous Capitol Police officer, Harry Dunn.

Speaker 8 And neither one of them are with the department any longer. But that was

Speaker 8 a really good lesson for us because the first thing that we did is we proved irrefutably that they had perjured themselves in a federal trial.

Speaker 2 And nothing happened.

Speaker 2 It was quite a locked up case, too. I mean, you did the TikTok with the video.
He says he's here. Here he is here.
He says he's here and here he is there. I mean, it was

Speaker 2 dead to rights, dead to rights. Anything happened with that?

Speaker 8 Of course not. I mean, the Capitol Police did an internal investigation.

Speaker 8 And of course, that was not going to go anywhere because of exactly what we're talking about here, is that if the deep state gets control of this, then it's over. And so we have to be.

Speaker 8 working with the good people, patient enough to allow them to help us finish this off and get those final two percentage points in there to make sure that this is exactly what we believe it is

Speaker 2 has the president been briefed on this that you know

Speaker 8 i do not know that that's happened yet um i certainly would love to uh see that take place

Speaker 2 uh well if you hit more obstacles

Speaker 2 I'd like to read the whole story, but if you hit more obstacles,

Speaker 2 I will do everything I can to get you into the Oval to see the president because this story,

Speaker 2 at some point, he has to know what's going on.

Speaker 2 Is it fair to say it's also in the White House or has access to the president?

Speaker 8 It is fair to say that

Speaker 8 this story

Speaker 8 has

Speaker 8 an angle that takes it to the president.

Speaker 8 That's probably as much as I can say about that right now

Speaker 8 without compromising sources. But I will tell you this, Glenn, is that it would be really great for the president to direct a particular department or agency to take this on

Speaker 6 and let us guide you through the process.

Speaker 2 You let me know if you need that. I don't know if I can get you to that meeting, but I can certainly try.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much, Steve. I appreciate it.
Thank you. Keep us up.

Speaker 2 You bet. All right.
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Speaker 2 If you look at the number of things that are catastrophic,

Speaker 2 it's a little overwhelming. What Steve is talking about, should this story be true?

Speaker 2 From what I have seen, it's a very strong case, but I haven't seen the whole case.

Speaker 2 If it is true,

Speaker 2 it will change everything. And it's catastrophic

Speaker 2 in its impact if it's true and

Speaker 2 it isn't corrected. Catastrophic.
You look at what happened with

Speaker 2 Mom Doni, and you tie that not just to socialism, but where did that money come from? Where did it come from?

Speaker 2 Well, Linda Sarsour, do we happen to have that from last night's TV show, the Linda Sarsour

Speaker 2 audio?

Speaker 2 She was extraordinarily clear that that money came from outside sources and

Speaker 2 Muslim sources from leaders all over the world. Sorry, all over the nation.
And I believe she said all over the world.

Speaker 2 It came, a lot of it came from CARE, as in the Council of American Islamic Relations.

Speaker 2 They're an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorism finance case back in 2007. I don't know if you know this, but Jeremy Corbyn, he's a former UK Labor Party member of parliament.

Speaker 2 He was expelled out of parliament because of his anti-Semitism stuff.

Speaker 2 He tweeted over this last weekend, I'm hosting a phone bank with the New York City Democratic Socialists of America to get out the vote for Mamdani. I mean, this was a global reach,

Speaker 2 Marxists and Islamists. Do we have the audio, Sarah?

Speaker 2 Here's,

Speaker 2 listen to Linda Sarsour

Speaker 2 about care.

Speaker 9 Right now, I'm a little more quiet because I'm on the quiet side of this race, but I'm going to tell you that once November 4th comes around, I will tell the story. The story is not just

Speaker 9 that it's random that Zehran ascended to this place. It is our Muslim American communities.
And I will also say that it's Muslim money.

Speaker 9 The PACs that have supported Zeuran, or a particular PAC that has supported Zehran, is probably over 80% of Muslim American donors in this country, high-net donors, grassroots donors.

Speaker 9 And I want to make the point that the Unity and Justice Fund PAC, which is the CARE Super PAC, was the

Speaker 9 largest institutional donor to the Pros Iran PAC in New York.

Speaker 2 So I was mistaken to say that she said that it was overseas. It's all American money.
But

Speaker 2 if it's care as the largest donor, that is a problem. And

Speaker 2 when you mix these two things together, what people don't understand, let me take you back to 1979.

Speaker 2 I remember 1979. I was a kid

Speaker 2 and I didn't know anything about Iran. I didn't know about the Shah or anything else.
The Shah had been been put into power back, I think, in the 50s by our CIA,

Speaker 2 and he was a strongman because, you know, at the time, everybody thought, well, if you're going to control all of those tribes in that area, you got to have a strongman that can cobble it all together.

Speaker 2 So he's a strongman, you know, not a good guy.

Speaker 2 And then the Islamic thing starts. And the Islamic Revolution happens in 1979.
And it starts in the streets. And

Speaker 2 it is colluding with Marxists.

Speaker 2 And the Marxists and the Islamists collude together to bring the Ayatollah Khomeini into Iran to take over.

Speaker 2 The Islamists were perfectly fine with the Marxists, and the Marxists were perfectly fine with the Islamists. But each of them had a plan,

Speaker 2 once we get control, then we'll get those guys out. Well,

Speaker 2 it took two years before the love affair was finally finished because the Islamists saw

Speaker 2 the leftists as useful idiots and the slaughter commenced. Hundreds of left-wing activists were died, were killed in the streets during protests.

Speaker 2 The rest of them were rounded up and thrown into prison. Within just a few months, 3,000 to 5,000 leftists were put to death inside of the prisons.

Speaker 2 So those who were working with the Islamists, once the Islamists got got their state, they rounded up those Marxists and they put them in prisons where 3,000 to 5,000 of them were killed.

Speaker 2 By 1988, 30,000 Marxists

Speaker 2 are now believed to have been killed, execution, torture, and in the streets.

Speaker 2 This is the way it always happens. That's the way it always happens.
And they are cobbling together coalitions that all believe that they're going to win in the end. And I got to tell you,

Speaker 2 if I were

Speaker 2 just simply a betting man and I had nothing to lose, you know, personally except money, my family, my children had nothing to lose, I would put my money on the Islamists every step of the way because they actually believe it.

Speaker 2 They believe it because their God tells them this is what you have to do. Don't bet against people who, I mean, this is why Marxists try to stamp God out.

Speaker 2 This is why they're trying to stamp Christianity out all over the West. Because if you have people who believe that they are trying to be on God's side,

Speaker 2 or worse, they're people who say God is on our side,

Speaker 2 then

Speaker 2 you have an army that won't quit.

Speaker 2 The people who are playing footsies with these Islamists

Speaker 2 know that Zoran, when it comes to it,

Speaker 2 he will pick Islam first.

Speaker 2 And she said

Speaker 2 yesterday, I gave you the quote where she was saying in the press that we're going to hold him accountable.

Speaker 2 You're either a Marxist or you're Islamist, but you're not both. And we're going to hold him accountable.
That's, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 It should be a wake-up call. Unfortunately, I don't think that it is a a wake-up call because we are meant to be divided.

Speaker 2 The press

Speaker 2 is doing a very good job, TikTok and everything else, and the left spends a lot of money to make sure that we are divided on everything. Do you know, I think it was 64%

Speaker 2 that voted said just Donald Trump played a big role in who they voted for, and that was for Mamdani.

Speaker 2 I mean, why? It's a local election. How does Donald Trump play into your everyday life in

Speaker 2 New York?

Speaker 2 How?

Speaker 2 It is a game to get you to look somewhere else so you're not, you become against something instead of for something.

Speaker 2 Now, there's enough people that are for socialism, and there's enough people that are... that are thinking that Sharia law is neat as well.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 we'll save this place only if we all wake up and go, you know what, I got to be for something.

Speaker 2 And it's not that. It's not that.
That's a culture of death. I'm not for any of that.
I choose life. I choose freedom.
I choose, you know, the individual over the collective.

Speaker 2 When that stuff begins to take hold, and it will, if we're all on the same page and we stop dividing ourselves and we just start talking about true principles and true history,

Speaker 2 we'll make it. But boy, oh boy, man, it is coming down to the wire.

Speaker 2 I mean, look at how colossal each of these problems are becoming.

Speaker 2 They're big. They're big, and there's a lot of them.
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Speaker 2 our fellow Premier Radio Network star, Clay Travis from the Clay and Buck Show, that is immediately following this show on many of the stations nationwide. Clay, welcome.
How are you?

Speaker 5 I'm great. Appreciate you having me.
Good to be seeing you on the road quite a lot over the past several years. And congrats on all the success you've been having and all the impact.

Speaker 2 And I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, thank you.
Same with you. It was good to see you at the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 You just, you put a book out, Balls, How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America. I just love that.

Speaker 2 First of all, go over the premise here.

Speaker 5 So I've got three young boys, 17, 15, and 11. And there were a couple of things that happened, Glenn, that really got me thinking as I started to see the world through their eyes.

Speaker 5 During COVID, my middle son, we walked into a Target, and this is in the book, and he said,

Speaker 5 Dad, they would never have those for us. We were going to buy baseball cards.
He loves to collect baseball cards. The two youngest did.

Speaker 5 And he pointed at the front of the Target, and it was just a huge collection of girl power shirts. And he said, they would never make boy power shirts, dad.

Speaker 5 And I just thought, wow, that's, you know, for a nine-year-old, that's really kind of super interesting to think about the world through which he's seeing it.

Speaker 5 And then another thing happened soon thereafter. One of the, one of their friends was over and he said, you know, Mr.

Speaker 5 Clay, today we were in school and we were being taught that, you know, white men caused all the problems in the world and were the reason why everybody's unhappy. And

Speaker 5 he said, and, you know, the teacher told us that white men had so much power. And he said, Mr.
Clay, what power do I have?

Speaker 5 My mom doesn't even let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.

Speaker 5 And, you know, sometimes in those anecdotes where you start to see the world through someone else's eyes, when you're a parent, when you see it, kids ask such interesting questions.

Speaker 5 And having three boys. It's one thing to grow up in a world like you and I did, Glenn, which is, hey, men and women should be able to aspire to the same things.

Speaker 5 Be a doctor, be a lawyer, be the highest, most successful version of yourself possible. That's something that I think most people have bought on to or bought into, and it's right and it's correct.

Speaker 5 But the idea of we have to tear down men to elevate women is the world that these young men are growing up in.

Speaker 5 And I think instinctually, Donald Trump also felt that, and I think the people surrounding him did. And they said, you know what?

Speaker 5 There's a play here for young men who are disaffected, who feel like masculinity is being attacked. And a lot of people told them they were crazy.

Speaker 5 And also with sports fans, seeing the Leah Thomas, the book opens with Leah Thomas, this six foot three, 220 pound man wearing a women's bathing suit, winning an NCAA championship in Atlanta in the spring of 2022.

Speaker 5 Sports fans and young men, they were angry. They saw the world as not making sense.
They felt like they were being lied to. And they saw Trump as a beacon to oppose the absurdity.

Speaker 5 And I give immense credit because I think that's where this election was won.

Speaker 5 I think that Trump team targeted young men and sports fans. And in so doing, they won back America in 2024.

Speaker 2 So he did do that. And you don't have that cultural thing happening.
You know, it'll come back rapidly should we lose.

Speaker 2 But you don't have that cultural thing right now.

Speaker 2 And you have in New York, Mom Dani, his election, 84%

Speaker 2 of young women, 84% of them voted for the socialist.

Speaker 2 And that's not happening with men.

Speaker 5 No, it's certainly not. I think there are two challenges here.
One, we have to continue to get young men to come out and vote. They show up for Trump.
They didn't show up in Virginia.

Speaker 5 They didn't show up in New Jersey. In fact, a lot of Trump voters didn't.
600,000 fewer Republicans showed up in Virginia and in New Jersey.

Speaker 5 To kind of put this in context, Glenn, more people voted for Trump in Virginia and New Jersey than voted for the Democrat gubernatorial winners on Tuesday.

Speaker 5 So more Republicans showed up to vote Trump than Democrats showed up to elect the governors.

Speaker 5 Second part of this, young men are becoming more conservative. I don't think there's any doubt in 2024, young men men were actually more conservative than men over the age of 65.

Speaker 5 Women, to your point, though, are becoming even more left-wing. How does that get reconciled? We've never seen a age gap like 18 to 30-year-old men compared to 18 to 30-year-old women.

Speaker 5 My hope is that we have to start to talk to young women and make them realize that the entire world does not revolve around abortion, which Democrats have been very effective at doing.

Speaker 5 And, you know, what's interesting, Glenn, I'm a history guy and I know you are too. Historically, pre-Roe v.
Wade, women actually voted more conservatively than men did.

Speaker 5 They tended to be more religious. They were more focused on house and home.
In the early 1900s all the way up to the 1970s, they were more conservative.

Speaker 5 I'm hopeful that these conservative young men are going to start to imprint on these conservative young women because once women get married and have kids, a lot of their life circumstances

Speaker 5 and focus changes. And so I write about that a lot in the book, too.
It's not just about how Trump won.

Speaker 5 It's how does the coalition that Trump put together become more durable and lasting to make the country a better place in the decades ahead.

Speaker 2 We're talking to Clay Travis,

Speaker 2 co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show that immediately follows this program on premier affiliates.

Speaker 2 His book is Balls, How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America. You know, the one thing I'm concerned about is this disconnect with the young men.

Speaker 2 How do we make sure that they

Speaker 2 don't become even more disaffected and start going down roads that are destructive?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's a fantastic question.

Speaker 5 And first, I think all of the dads, all the grandfathers out there, we have to do a better job than we have been so far.

Speaker 5 I think, Glenn, the biggest threat to men is actually men not being involved in raising men. And I write a lot about this in the book, too, because it is a call to manhood.

Speaker 5 And I think for a lot of people out there that

Speaker 5 have kids, boys in particular, that they're raising. You know what the data shows, Glenn?

Speaker 5 That moms who are raising kids as single moms, that young girls actually do pretty well in those households because they have a strong female figure figure that they aspire to be more like.

Speaker 5 And young women are not as harmed in single family households. Young men struggle immensely because moms cannot be both mom and dad for them and they need male role models.

Speaker 5 And this is where I think grandfathers, this is where uncles, and frankly, this is where dads, it's easy to create a kid. It's hard to become a dad.

Speaker 5 And a lot of men, frankly, have run from the hard work. And I think also this is a part where the government has failed.
You know, you go back and look in particular in the black community.

Speaker 5 There was huge two-parent households in the pre-civil rights era in the black community. You go back and look at the data, it's really pretty staggering.

Speaker 5 And then in the civil rights movement, as the welfare state took over, the government in many ways tried to replace the dad of a household.

Speaker 5 And a lot of black men stopped being involved with raising their children.

Speaker 5 So you're talking about a world where black children were 80% two-parent households pre-civil rights to one where now we're talking 15 or 20%.

Speaker 5 And a lot of those kids then grow up and become, unfortunately,

Speaker 5 major issues for the nation as a whole.

Speaker 2 Well, you also, I mean, you create, my father told me something when I was young. I was mad at him, you know, 16 years old and you're arguing with your dad.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, I'll never grow up to be like you.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I walked away and I went to my room. And pretty soon, a couple of minutes later, it was a knock on the door.
And my father said, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 And I just, it was made me so mad because I wanted to win. And he said, I'm so proud of you.
And I said, why? And he said, because I didn't want to be like my father. But I want to make you a promise.

Speaker 2 If you don't find a role model, if you don't find a dad that you can model yourself after,

Speaker 2 I warn you, you will grow up to be exactly like me.

Speaker 2 And he wasn't saying that to rub my face in it. He really did not want to.
His father was a very bad man, and he did not want to be his father. And

Speaker 2 so he was trying to give me a good piece of advice. Where do you find that role model?

Speaker 2 Because you have, I mean, you have generations now that have not grown up with a strong male leader in the household.

Speaker 5 Well, I write a lot about this because that is a huge part of this. A lot of them have gone online.

Speaker 5 And I think the online ecosystem, the so-called manosphere, you can find a lot of good. You can find a lot of bad there.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 sometimes you're finding some of both from

Speaker 5 some of these people. I'll give you an example.

Speaker 5 One of my sons likes Andrew Tate. And I was like, ooh, that's a little bit controversial.
What do you like about him?

Speaker 5 He said, what I take from him, Dad, is he says, shut up, whine less and do more push-ups.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, you know, that's not, you know, not whining and doing more push-ups is not the worst thing that a 13 or 14-year-old could take. Correct.
Correct.

Speaker 5 But I think this is candidly where sports comes in to a large extent, too, because there are so many people who try to emulate their favorite sports fan, right?

Speaker 5 Young boys want to be bigger, stronger, faster than we are.

Speaker 5 Men want to be bigger, stronger, faster than we are. It's why sports is so compelling.
But I also think you're seeing, and this is encouraging to me,

Speaker 5 a growth in men looking for something larger in life. And a lot of them are finding religion.
You know, young men are going back to church at very, very high levels.

Speaker 5 I think Charlie Kirk had a hugely impactful role there. And so there's a desperate search for meaning.

Speaker 5 And young men are on that quest. And I think they are looking for everybody out there that is a dad, like I said, a grandpa, an uncle.

Speaker 5 I think we all have to do a better job reaching out and teaching kids how to become men

Speaker 5 because manhood has been under assault by so much on the left. And by the way, women are a huge part of this too, because no women out there want weak men, right?

Speaker 5 This is not something that women are aspiring to. A lot of moms, I think, are going to read this book and say, you know what? This is frustrating.
I don't want a world that creates weak men.

Speaker 5 I don't want to raise weak sons.

Speaker 5 And so we all have to come together. And I spent so much time thinking about this in the book, Glenn, was just trying to figure out this is a great toehold that we got in 2024.

Speaker 5 How do we expand it into a durable and lasting majority that it can be so profoundly impactful for the country?

Speaker 2 A friend of mine said he was very optimistic when Trump won, and he has been since that day until the last election that happened two days ago. He said, now I'm worried.

Speaker 2 I mean, are we going to be able to hold this?

Speaker 2 Are you optimistic?

Speaker 5 I am, and I tend to be, for people who listen to the show, you know, Buck tends to be a little bit more pessimistic. On life, I tend to be pretty optimistic.

Speaker 5 And look, here's the reason why I am optimistic. I just believe in the marketplace of ideas.
And I think over time, if you make good arguments, you win.

Speaker 5 And I think Republican arguments are better.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 everything that Republicans argue makes sense.

Speaker 5 It's why Gavin Newsom, who may be the nominee in 2028, is already basically saying, hey, I didn't mean any of the things that I said for much of my political career

Speaker 5 because he knows that when you watch that argument, that debate that he had with DeSantis, DeSantis wiped the floor with him because he had the right arguments. He had the right facts.

Speaker 5 He was able to marshal them.

Speaker 5 I think the big question, and I write this in the book, is going to be,

Speaker 5 you're going to see an an amazing pivot after the midterms.

Speaker 5 We're going to go from Trump is Hitler on the left side to no one is ever going to be able to replicate the unique political skills and talent of Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 And they're going to say that his coalition will not follow him

Speaker 5 and will not follow whoever is succeeding him. I tend to think that that's not going to be true, but the only way to win is by fighting hard every day.
And that's what I try to do.

Speaker 5 That's what I know you do.

Speaker 5 And I feel fortunate to be able to talk on the radio, but also to write a book like this, which I hope people really will enjoy.

Speaker 2 Clay Travis, the name of the book is Balls, How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America. It's available wherever you get your books.
Now, Clay, thank you.

Speaker 2 We'll hear from you again in a couple of hours. God bless.

Speaker 5 Hey, thank you so much. Keep up the good work, Glenn.

Speaker 2 All right.

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Speaker 2 Sanctuary school district policies that obstruct federal immigration enforcement are under a lawsuit now.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Not interested.

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Speaker 2 It involves a guy going to school to pick up his son,

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Speaker 2 Excuse me? What?

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Speaker 2 They're the ones having the lawsuit against this school district. This school district is way out of control.
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Speaker 2 Todd Rokita is with us now. He is the Attorney General from Indiana, and Leanne O'Neill is the chief of legal affairs for the American First Policy Institute.

Speaker 2 They are the people that are the head of this story and the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 Todd, Leanne, thank you so much for joining me.

Speaker 5 Hey, Glenn, great to be with you. And I'll have to

Speaker 5 tell my staff to work on those press release headlines so you're better interested next time.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, you're kind of bearing the head, you know, what I can't believe.

Speaker 2 I can believe that there are schools this out of control, but not so out of control that they block a dad from picking up his own son.

Speaker 2 Can you tell me what happened?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I sure can. And I'm sure glad to have Leanne with us on this lawsuit.
You know, of course, AFPI is the

Speaker 5 policy arm and policy, more than a think tank, an action tank that's associated with the policies of President Trump. So we couldn't be more grateful.
But what happened here, think about this.

Speaker 5 Remember, Christy Noam had the

Speaker 5 voluntary deportation opportunity.

Speaker 5 Now, this is an opportunity that's been in statute before, Christy Noam, before President Trump, but it's never really been utilized as much as this administration has.

Speaker 5 And so this father, recognizing that he was not in compliance with the law, decided to say, you know what, I'm going to take advantage of this opportunity so I can maybe come back the right way one day.

Speaker 5 Need to go get my son at school and

Speaker 5 went to the school to try to get his kid. And the school obstructed him and then obstructed ICE

Speaker 5 from assisting as well. So the lawsuit's not just about that.
It's about a whole

Speaker 5 string of policies that we've uncovered, Glenn, that this school system and probably others around the country have in place that keep these kids and keep ICE from doing their job.

Speaker 2 So, Leanne,

Speaker 2 what is it about this case? Because that's outrageous enough. What else is the school district doing? This is the largest school district, I think, in Indiana.
And what else are they doing?

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's right. No, and thank you, Glenn, for having me.
And I'm just so, you know, I have to, I can't say enough about Attorney General Rikita's courage in enforcing this law.

Speaker 11 You know, if we don't enforce these laws, we won't have a country. So this is so important.

Speaker 11 But I'm really glad that you asked that question.

Speaker 11 You know, the school district has several policies in place that directly violate the state law.

Speaker 11 And, you know, one is that the schools can't implement policies that make it difficult for employees to follow federal immigration law or to cooperate with federal immigration officials.

Speaker 11 And of course, that's what happened here.

Speaker 11 Additionally,

Speaker 11 the law prohibits local government agencies from having policies that restrict the ability ability to collect information about immigration status.

Speaker 11 So, you know, the Biden administration unleashed 400,000 unaccompanied minors into this country who are all at grave risk of

Speaker 11 unthinkable tragedies and crimes that could be committed against them.

Speaker 11 And if schools are prohibited from collecting information about students in their own buildings, then it is going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to find those kids and get them back to safety.

Speaker 2 So, Attorney General, you're looking at this. I mean, is this

Speaker 2 a school district that is deciding that they are against, that they're above the law? I mean, I've seen cities do it, but I've never seen a school district do it.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 5 And look, these school districts, Glenn, in a lot of ways, are just like these Democrat-run cities. Now, the Indianapolis public school system is the largest in the state.

Speaker 5 To the individual teachers' credit, only half of them are with the union, which I find to be sort of refreshing. I figured they'd all be.

Speaker 5 But it's really the leadership, and it's the elected school board who are all leftists, and the leadership who, you know, again, this is part of the Marxist agenda.

Speaker 5 The parents are subsidiary.

Speaker 5 They're subservant to these administrators,

Speaker 5 to the teachers themselves, and they work against the parents. And why do I call this, I'm not being overly dramatic when I call it Marxism, but that's what it does, right?

Speaker 5 Marxism attacks the family unit, which is the foundation of our free society, right? These of strong nuclear families. So

Speaker 5 they also do, this school system also does it in another regard, too. So

Speaker 5 it divides the family, literally in this case, you know, the father who wanted to take a son back to their home country, but they have a gender affirming plan, for example, that says, hey, it's a questionnaire that the teachers fill out.

Speaker 5 This kid is transitioning.

Speaker 5 Is the parent support for this high or is the parent support for this low? Oh, it's low. What do we have to do to make sure that the transition isn't obstructed?

Speaker 6 That's basically what the form asks for.

Speaker 5 So it's this division in keeping out of parents

Speaker 5 and basically the state's assumption of our greatest asset from God,

Speaker 5 which is our children. And so that's what's wrong here.

Speaker 5 That's what's at the core of all of this, that the family and the parents don't have the authority or the rights that they're supposed to have in a free society like America.

Speaker 2 It's amazing that they are protecting, they're not protecting the family, but

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, let me take it from where Leanne was. I mean,

Speaker 2 MS-13, child traffickers, I mean, they seem to be protected here.

Speaker 11 That's exactly right. I mean, they're, again, with the policies that refuse to allow cooperation and sharing information about illegal immigration status is just like a welcome mat for

Speaker 11 the hordes of dangerous criminals, even high school-age students who could be in these schools. And now

Speaker 11 the actions of the school district have prevented ICE from being able to determine that.

Speaker 2 Do you have any, Attorney General, do you have

Speaker 2 anything to add on what's happening with

Speaker 2 child trafficking or MS-13 in these schools?

Speaker 5 Well, that's exactly what the ⁇

Speaker 5 whether it exists or whether they're having the atmosphere or the environment so that it can exist in the future, that's what the parents and the taxpayers have to watch out for.

Speaker 5 I mean, let's not forget, your listeners, Glenn, we all are paying for these schools. And

Speaker 5 we're forking over this money, we think, to somehow educate our kids when they're being either groomed or indoctrinated to and the school is working against us.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's the most frustrating thing. But yeah, this could be a very dangerous

Speaker 5 safety issue here. So I guess the bottom line for me, Glenn, is, and I know you're listeners and you talk so much about Congress, and I was a Congressman for eight years.

Speaker 5 I'm here to tell you that the sun does not rise and set at Congress. I mean, in modern days, like today, they can't tie their shoes.
Look to your attorneys general. Look, those are important races.

Speaker 5 And as you can see from this lawsuit and the other things that we do, we can actually move the needle. So that's where listeners have to invest their time.

Speaker 2 Was there any law broken by holding this child away from the parents?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 5 yeah. I mean,

Speaker 5 what this lawsuit's about is the fact that they are harboring a sanctuary jurisdiction.

Speaker 5 They have created a sanctuary jurisdiction here, which is against the law law of the state of Indiana. We have a pretty strong, very good, by Senator Eric Cook, a very good anti-sanctuary city,

Speaker 5 anti-sanctuary jurisdiction law in the state of Indiana, and we contend that's been a violation. Now, that's a civil matter.

Speaker 5 Whether or not a crime has been committed in the state like Indiana, that's completely the jurisdiction of a local prosecutor.

Speaker 5 I can tell you where IPS is located in the city. This is a Soros-backed prosecutor, so nothing's going to happen in that regard.

Speaker 2 Leanne, consequences for the rest of us if this doesn't go the right way?

Speaker 11 Well, it's, you know, a complete breakdown of the law and the rule of law if this is continued to allow, if this is continued to go on.

Speaker 11 You know, the Indiana representatives passed this law and Attorney General Rikita is enforcing it. And that is what is demanded of the leaders in the states right now.

Speaker 11 And I think it's just so incredible that he's taken this step in filing this lawsuit and holding this school district accountable because

Speaker 11 if we don't protect our schools in states where we have very good statutes that require that, then we will not have a country any longer.

Speaker 2 The chief legal affairs officer from America First Policy Institute, you can find them at americafirstpolicy.com, Leanne O'Neill, and the Indiana Attorney General, Todd Rokita. Guys, thank you.

Speaker 2 We'll be following the case. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

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Speaker 2 So remember when you were a kid and you made a horrible mistake?

Speaker 2 You went out on your own and you're living on your own and you do something and you might have even called your parents and your parents wisely said, don't do that.

Speaker 2 That's going to, it's going to leave a mark because it's going to, it's not a good idea. And you were like, yeah, but I know.
Well, I live on my own now. So I can do what I want.

Speaker 2 And you're like, and your parents were like, well, we'll support you on whatever you want, but the consequences of this one are, you know,

Speaker 2 it's not good. It's not going to work out well.
And then you had to call your parents and just say,

Speaker 2 please just don't say, I told you so. And if you had good parents, they didn't.
They were like, no, we support you. And, you know, glad you learned from your mistakes.

Speaker 2 But if you had a parent like me, it was like, you can't stop me from not saying, I told you so. What were you thinking? What were you thinking?

Speaker 2 No, that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 My daughter and her roommate decide

Speaker 2 they're going to get a lab for a pet.

Speaker 2 Stu, what do you tell your daughter, your son, they go out, they live on their own.

Speaker 2 The roommates in an apartment building, they decide to get a lab for a pet. What do you say?

Speaker 3 Well, that's okay, but that's a lot of responsibility.

Speaker 5 Are you prepared for it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, right? right. Probably not the best idea, you know, probably not the best idea, but you know,

Speaker 2 well, my daughter and her roommate, they went out and they got a lab. And

Speaker 2 it hasn't worked out. It hasn't worked out.

Speaker 2 And now...

Speaker 3 When did they get this dog?

Speaker 2 Two days ago.

Speaker 3 It hasn't worked out. It hasn't done anything yet.
It's only been two days. What do you mean it hasn't worked out?

Speaker 2 Two days. Two days.
She's bailing out after two days please don't don't don't you don't even want to know i

Speaker 2 don't okay i mean you haven't been on the phone with your daughter crying at midnight you know don't lie it's so it's been a big thing this has been this is

Speaker 2 been a very very big thing she's just got this sweet sweetheart and now she's got this sweet sweet dog and she doesn't have any idea what to do she can't bring him back they're like well not our dog anymore you know she's like it's been two days days.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 2 So now she's got to find a home.

Speaker 2 Is she on the phone? Or did you get her on the phone or not?

Speaker 2 So now I'll get in it.

Speaker 2 Be nice to. No, no, I'm certainly being nice to her.

Speaker 3 I'm curious, though, did you talk to her about,

Speaker 3 hey, like, yeah, the first couple of weeks are going to suck, right? Like, this is what is going to happen.

Speaker 2 And I don't want you to share any of that either. No,

Speaker 2 she's made up her mind.

Speaker 2 Hello, Cheyenne.

Speaker 6 Hi, Dad.

Speaker 2 How are you? Miss yourself.

Speaker 2 I miss you an awful lot. I miss you an awful lot.
So

Speaker 2 Stu thinks that you should tough it out.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm curious.

Speaker 3 How bad has this actually been, Cheyenne?

Speaker 12 It hasn't been bad. We love him.
We really do. He's a great dog.
Um, it has been difficult with another 20-year-old in the house. We're both really struggling with that.

Speaker 2 So it's, it's just got some. It's not the dog.
It's not the dog. Okay.
It's not the dog. The roommates are all kind of up in arms.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And so the dog is just standing there going,

Speaker 2 I just want somebody to walk me who will walk me. Right.

Speaker 2 Well, he's great.

Speaker 12 We go on walks every morning, and he's a great dog. He really is.

Speaker 2 I'm really sad. I have to give him up.
How old?

Speaker 2 So we

Speaker 12 picked him up at the shelter.

Speaker 12 So we don't know exactly how old he is, but he's in the two to four range. Like, that's kind of what they gave us.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he's really cute. And he's.

Speaker 2 He's so cute. And he's not.
And he. Yeah.
And he's not going to the bathroom inside or anything, right? No, he's a good dog. He's great with people.

Speaker 12 The only time he's peed is when he got really excited

Speaker 2 and was like, dogs do that. So do old people.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Men abuse.

Speaker 2 Yay!

Speaker 2 Yeah, that does happen.

Speaker 12 He's great with people.

Speaker 12 I've already introduced him to people in our leasing office and just people walking by. He doesn't bite at dogs.
He's very, very sweet.

Speaker 12 And he's very obedient.

Speaker 2 He learns quickly because he's a lab retriever bits so yeah so if you're if you're if you're interested in a dog uh

Speaker 12 do you have the email address do you have an email address you can give out yes the email address his um his name is snoop so the um address is snoop the dogo6 at gmail.com

Speaker 2 snoop the dogo6 at gmail.com if you're interested in a dog free it's free and you will have my eternal gratitude.

Speaker 2 He also deals with

Speaker 2 a bed and food and clothes and everything like that.

Speaker 2 And he has a crazy dog. I'm sorry.
And

Speaker 2 clothes?

Speaker 12 We bought him a little hat

Speaker 2 for Christmas.

Speaker 2 Please rescue this dog.

Speaker 6 Did we just

Speaker 3 cover here, Glenn, what region we're talking about? What area?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Mountain West in Utah. Okay.

Speaker 12 Yeah, the closest areas to me are like Utah County. So if you live there, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 12 So, yeah, if you're close to that area, hit me up. Let me know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's a great dog. He's a great dog.

Speaker 2 We've grown to love him so in the last two days.

Speaker 3 Hour 27 was an incredible hour.

Speaker 2 Hour 27, that was good. It was dicey.
Hour three was a little dicey, but by hour 27, we've just fallen deeply, deeply in love.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right, sweetheart. Thank you.
I love you. All right.
Thank you, Dad. Bye.

Speaker 2 You bet. I love you.

Speaker 3 I have so many questions.

Speaker 2 I have so many questions. Oh,

Speaker 2 so many questions. And no answers.

Speaker 2 No answers. Just kids do the damnedest things at times.
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Speaker 2 This is the Glenn Beck program. My name is Glenn Beck.
Thank you so much for listening. If you're a new listener to the program,

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Speaker 2 Thank you so much for listening. We're at a moment in our civilization's life that comes along where the signs are no longer subtle.
They don't whisper from the margins anymore.

Speaker 2 They stand right in the road. They've got a big flashlight in your eyes.
You're daring you. Come on, look away.
Look away.

Speaker 2 Today, anybody who still believes in the Judeo-Christian pillars that built the West and the Western civilization, the signs are no longer scattered everywhere. They are converging.

Speaker 2 And I want to tell you a story about what happened this week in Germany.

Speaker 2 Little town in Germany quietly submitted Christmas to Islam.

Speaker 2 It is in the town of Overroth. It's right in the heart of the nation.

Speaker 2 This is the town where Bach's Christmas oratorio was written and first performed.

Speaker 2 This town canceled its Christmas market. Now, we don't really have Christmas markets like they do over in Europe.

Speaker 2 These little towns, they're just such great little, iconic little squares. And they build little shops inside the square.
And it's snowing and it's just so Christmassy and it's filled with lights.

Speaker 2 And you go and you buy Christmas presents and foods and you know, decorations and whatever. And it's been happening since, I don't know, the year eight.

Speaker 2 I don't know when they started, but they've been happening for centuries. Okay.

Speaker 2 Why did this town

Speaker 2 cancel this?

Speaker 2 Because police warned that the presence of a mosque next to the square posed quote security challenges

Speaker 2 okay well that's a problem and they said to secure the Christmas market against the security challenges would cost more than the market cost to put on itself and so they canceled the Christmas market the birth of Christ is now suspended for fear of offending those who deny him in the first place.

Speaker 2 Think what that means. Not an outrage, not an outrage.
In diagnosis, think what this means. A culture that can't defend its own sacred symbols

Speaker 2 has already seeded something much deeper than public space. They are surrendering memory.

Speaker 2 And this is happening everywhere, and we have to start recognizing it. I mean, it's why the Charlie Kirk thing was important.

Speaker 2 But quite honestly, the Charlie Kirk thing, it better not turn into something political. It was spiritual.

Speaker 2 The reason why he made such an impact is because he was talking about things about God, eternal truths. And we don't need a revival.
We need an awakening.

Speaker 2 And the difference between a revival and awakening, a revival sends everybody back to church and they're all talking about God and everybody feels good. Those happen all the time.

Speaker 2 An awakening happens rarely. It starts with a revival.
Then people go to church and they're like, wow, we are so far far off the beaten path here. We've got to change the way we do things.

Speaker 2 We have to change the way we see things, the way we act in our homes,

Speaker 2 in our businesses, and in our government. That's an awakening.

Speaker 2 And it needs to happen. And the only place it really has a chance of happening is in the United States.
Honestly, you think it's going to happen in Great Britain?

Speaker 2 Right now, entire towns and villages are echoing with public calls to prayer, sometimes six, seven, eight times a day

Speaker 2 from the Muslim mosques as the church that once stood at the center of the community is shuttered or sold or being transformed into a mosque or burned.

Speaker 2 Hundreds of churches all across Europe have been vandalized or destroyed just in the last two years. This is not a metaphor.
This is a map of retreat.

Speaker 2 Last night, another headline. Man driving his car through a crowd.
Driving his car through the crowds, shouting, Allah Akbar.

Speaker 2 We're told it's another isolated incident. Really? Another tragedy that just does not reflect the broader community.
Really?

Speaker 2 Strange how this isolation stuff repeats itself seemingly daily across continents. Meanwhile, If you're paying attention, in Africa, Christians are being killed at a rate unseen in modern times.

Speaker 2 In fact, the greatest persecution of Christians of all time is happening right now. Churches are burned.
What was it yesterday? Was it 19,000 Christian churches were burned in the last couple of years

Speaker 2 in Africa, in one country in Africa? Pastors are being executed, entire villages being erased, and the world shrugs. Why?

Speaker 2 Because the victims carry crosses and the killers carry the banner of a radical creed that the West no longer dares to name.

Speaker 2 Let me bring this home.

Speaker 2 The election of Zoran Mamdani,

Speaker 2 openly not just praised by Kerr,

Speaker 2 but also championed by Linda Sarsour

Speaker 2 and said it was Kerr and the Muslim community that planned this and got him to be elected. Okay, you can be a Muslim and you can be fine.
I have Muslim friends. I don't have any Islamist friends.

Speaker 2 I don't have any friends who want to overthrow the United States or change and leave the Constitution of the United States and reinvent everything. Those are not my friends.

Speaker 2 I don't care what church you go to, what mosque you go to. You believe that? You're not my friend.

Speaker 2 All of this is happening because the West has grown either forgetful, apathetic, or timid.

Speaker 2 And radicals have grown bold.

Speaker 2 Now, you're either a believer in the Judeo-Christian tradition

Speaker 2 or not. But if you believe the Judeo-Christian tradition is what created the West,

Speaker 2 why has this Western culture decided that warnings are impolite?

Speaker 2 Somehow or another, we believe that defending our own civilization is somehow or another an act of aggression. It's not.
And history laughs at that kind of naivety. Okay?

Speaker 2 They're laughing at us. I've seen them.
I've seen them say, you people are so stupid. Don't you see what's happening?

Speaker 2 Just by the birth rate alone.

Speaker 2 And I've never had a problem. I don't care.
I really don't care. But that ideology, Sharia law, I do not want my children or grandchildren living under.
That's evil, period. I'd rather fight this now.

Speaker 2 I'd rather fight it before we ever had to use guns or anything else. I'd rather just stand for my civilization civilization now so my children don't have to.

Speaker 2 So my children, I'd fight it with words now. I'd fight it with awareness now.
So my children don't have to fight it with machetes

Speaker 2 in the future.

Speaker 2 Every civilization that has fallen, Rome,

Speaker 2 the kingdoms of Iberia, the Christian enclaves of the Near East, they all fell because they refused. to see the signs.
Not because the signs weren't there. They were.

Speaker 2 But because they were inconvenient, because they required courage.

Speaker 2 This is not a clash of skin color or nationality.

Speaker 2 This is a clash of cultures, of systems, of morals, of foundations.

Speaker 2 The Judeo-Christian West believes in the dignity of the individual, each individual. We believe in the rule of law.

Speaker 2 Law made by man,

Speaker 2 inspired by God. We believe in the sanctity of conscience.
We believe that just because you don't share my faith doesn't make you an infidel that I can now take as a slave.

Speaker 2 Sharia law replaces all of this stuff with compulsion, individual worth with collective submission, and the equality of man with the supremacy of a creed.

Speaker 2 You've got nothing left.

Speaker 2 When there are millions in our streets, millions in the streets all over the West that are calling out loud for the replacement of the Western law with Islamic courts, they do so openly, publicly, loudly, repeatedly, and now with political backing.

Speaker 2 That's not diversity. That is a competing civilization claiming ground inch by inch while the old one is apologizing for even existing.

Speaker 2 How is the West giving up Christmas?

Speaker 2 And we're the ones that are intolerant? We're giving up Christmas

Speaker 2 because they can't tolerate our Christmas.

Speaker 2 Tolerance is a virtue until it becomes abdication.

Speaker 2 It's such an exciting and bold time to live.

Speaker 2 We are really honored to live at this time because

Speaker 2 we're going to be tested over and over and over again, and we're going to find out who we really are.

Speaker 2 And I do not want to be the people that future historians look back on and say, you know, they saw the storm.

Speaker 2 They just closed the shutters and pretended it was rain.

Speaker 2 It's not rain.

Speaker 2 It is the cracking of the foundational stones of our civilization. The West is not going to fall in a single night, but it is falling.

Speaker 2 It falls when the faithful grow silent, when the faithful say, well,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 God this, God that, but I'm going to keep silent about it.

Speaker 2 Civilization falls when... when you're shamed into believing that your own heritage is somehow a sin

Speaker 2 when you refuse to defend the moral architecture that gave us human rights,

Speaker 2 the moral architecture that gave us limited government, equality before the law, and the idea that every man and woman is born not as property and cannot be taken as property, because we are all, no matter what your creed or color is, are all children of an all-powerful, mighty God.

Speaker 2 We cannot focus on the anger.

Speaker 2 Anger and fear and hatred. You are commanded to love your neighbor and love those that hate you.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, you're also required to see.

Speaker 2 Open your eyes. Have your friends and neighbors and your family open their eyes if you still believe that the Judeo-Christian ethic is worth preserving not for domination

Speaker 2 but because it's it gave us the gift of the understanding for the first time of individual human freedom

Speaker 2 If you believe that, then you have to be a sentinel.

Speaker 2 You have no choice. It's your moral obligation.

Speaker 2 Darkness doesn't conquer a civilization.

Speaker 2 It just takes the place of whatever refuses to shine. And the lamps of the West, are they flickering?

Speaker 2 Are they even lit? Is there oil left in that lamp?

Speaker 2 This is not a call to arms. This is a call back to standing for the principles that you know are true.

Speaker 2 Standing for the principles you grew up knowing were true.

Speaker 2 Just saying, no,

Speaker 2 we are not closing our Christmas village

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 you're offended by it.

Speaker 2 It means no offense.

Speaker 2 I'm not offended by you,

Speaker 2 and yet I'm the one being called

Speaker 2 not tolerant?

Speaker 2 And yet you are forcing me to cancel my Christmas village, which we've done forever.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 if you're standing up for your God,

Speaker 2 I will stand up for mine.

Speaker 2 I don't believe we have a choice.

Speaker 2 Back in a minute.

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Speaker 2 You know, I'm actually excited for Christmas. Talking about the Christmas village that's now been killed.

Speaker 2 I'm excited for Christmas. Although my wife and I were out

Speaker 2 shopping someplace over the weekend, I can't remember. And every store we walked into,

Speaker 2 it already had everything Christmas. It was the day after Halloween.
It was like they spent all night tearing down the spooky stuff and putting up Jesus stuff or tree and Santa stuff.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was like, what has happened? When? And my wife was like, every year. And I'm like, really?

Speaker 2 Every year.

Speaker 2 November 1st, that's the beginning of the season.

Speaker 3 Well, they've decided that the only time they make money is Christmas, so they might as well make Christmas as long as possible,

Speaker 3 which is an interesting choice. Like I heard a commercial, I think it was two or three weeks before

Speaker 3 Halloween. And it was for Home Depot, I believe.
And it was like, it's the holiday season. You can get all your supplies.

Speaker 3 And I was like, is this a, like, are they trying to just include Halloween in the holiday season now? Is that a new shtick?

Speaker 3 But no, they just went to the, when they went to the video of it, it was just all Christmas trees.

Speaker 2 It's like, you know, it's interesting. It's, it's interesting how you leave Columbus Day out of the holiday season.
You just went right to Halloween. It's anti-Tale.
It's completely dismissed.

Speaker 3 Anti-Italian. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I get it. I get it, Stu.
I see what's happening here.

Speaker 2 You are such a Grinch. Yep.
Yeah, it's a little early. It's a little early.
You know, it's not even Halloween yet. It's a little early.
Halloween was yesterday. It's a little early.

Speaker 2 This is Glenn Beck.