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Speaker 2 Kind of a frightening moment in

Speaker 2 New York, and even Van Jones said, wow, that is a different person. Mom Dani

Speaker 2 took off the mask in his victory speech last night, showing who he truly, really is and has been the whole time.

Speaker 2 Also, Chip Roy is here to talk to us a little bit about, you know, the defunding of care through tax-exempt status.

Speaker 2 I mean, should there be groups that are tied to terrorist organizations that are getting tax breaks or funding from the U.S.?

Speaker 2 And Riley Moore joins us. He is the representative from West Virginia who is

Speaker 2 going to talk to us a little bit about

Speaker 2 are we going to send troops to

Speaker 2 Nigeria? I mean, what is happening in Nigeria? How bad is it? And what is our responsibility there? All that and more on today's podcast.

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Speaker 2 I want to start with the analysis from Van Jones on the Mom Dani speech last night. I want to listen to what he said.

Speaker 5 I think the Mom Dani that we saw in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm, who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing, was not present in that speech.

Speaker 5 And I think that Mamdani is the one you need to hear from tonight. There are a lot of people trying to figure out, can I get on this train with him or not?

Speaker 5 Is he going to include me?

Speaker 5 Is he going to be more of a class warrior, even in office? I think he missed a chance tonight to open up and bring more people into the tent. I think his tone was sharp.

Speaker 5 I think he was using the microphone in a way that he was almost yelling. And that's not the Mom Donnie that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 So I felt like there's a little bit of a character switch here where the warm,

Speaker 5 open, embracing guy that's close to working people was not on stage tonight. And there was some other voice on stage.
Huh.

Speaker 2 It's almost like a mask. has come off.
What a surprise.

Speaker 4 Yeah, by the way, just quick recommendation for anyone in New York. If Mom Donnie tries to get you on a train, don't go.

Speaker 3 It's a terrible idea.

Speaker 2 Stay away from him.

Speaker 2 Very good point, Stu.

Speaker 2 I might have even gotten onto that train

Speaker 2 without realizing.

Speaker 2 Very good point.

Speaker 3 Very good.

Speaker 2 I don't think as a German you'll be invited, Glenn.

Speaker 2 No trades. No trades.

Speaker 2 Okay, so here's Mom Donny.

Speaker 2 And this is how angry, angry, listen how angry he is when he's talking about Donald Trump. Listen to this.

Speaker 6 So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching,

Speaker 6 I have four words for you.

Speaker 6 Turn the volume up.

Speaker 6 Huh?

Speaker 2 I guess turn it up on the TV.

Speaker 6 We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald Trumps of our city have grown far too comfortable taking advantage of their tenants.

Speaker 2 He's screaming right over we need to turn the volume up.

Speaker 6 An end to the culture of corruption that has allowed billionaires like Trump to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks.

Speaker 2 That corruption changed the tax laws.

Speaker 6 We will stand alongside unions and expand labor protections because we know

Speaker 6 just as Donald Trump does,

Speaker 6 that when working people have ironclad rights, the bosses who seek to extort them become very small indeed.

Speaker 6 New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants,

Speaker 6 powered by immigrants,

Speaker 6 and as of tonight, led by an immigrant.

Speaker 2 A very angry immigrant whose own mother says he doesn't identify as an American. I mean,

Speaker 2 can I just spend a minute on this? Because he's absolutely right. New York was built by immigrants.
America was built by immigrants. I mean, unless you're a Native American, you're an immigrant.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And I make the case that you might have come from Asia, even if you're an American, you know, native.

Speaker 2 You know, go back far enough. You weren't on this continent.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 so I agree, all built by immigrants. But we have a difference now of immigrants.
Listen to this from Teddy Roosevelt. There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.

Speaker 2 When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I don't refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I've ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad.

Speaker 2 But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

Speaker 2 This is just as true of a man who puts native

Speaker 2 before the hyphen as a man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and the soul.
Our allegiance must be purely to the United States.

Speaker 2 We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. Think about this.
Think about this in what's happening with the Somali communities. Think about Minnesota.
Think about Dearborn.

Speaker 2 Think about New York.

Speaker 2 Think about what's being said about and to immigrants today.

Speaker 2 If he is heartily and singly loyal to this republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good as an American as anyone else.

Speaker 2 The one absolute certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German Americans, Irish Americans, English Americans, French Americans, Scandinavian Americans, Italian Americans.

Speaker 2 Notice, by the way, he's not attacking people of color. These are all people from Western Europe.
So this isn't something new, and it's not about racism. Scandinavian?

Speaker 2 Yeah, boy, you must hate white people. Those are the whitest white people on the planet, for the love of Pete.
The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans.

Speaker 2 And there ought to be no room for them in this country.

Speaker 2 The man who calls himself an American citizen and yet who shows by his actions that he's primarily the citizen in the life of our body politic, he has no place here.

Speaker 2 And the sooner he returns to the land in which he feels his real heart allegiance, the better it'll be for every good American. There's no such thing as a hyphenated American who's a good American.

Speaker 2 The only man who's a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. I mean,

Speaker 2 you know, when he said that in the early 1900s, he was talking about a whole different class of immigrants,

Speaker 2 race-wise. But it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 Hyphenated American. Race,

Speaker 2 if you are an American, you don't see race. People have in the past, and it's been wrong to do it.
And you know who really saw that clearer than anyone else?

Speaker 2 The progressives, Margaret Sanger being one of them, the progressive movement. They're the ones who wanted to separate races.

Speaker 2 For the love of Pete.

Speaker 2 So he's now angry,

Speaker 2 and he's

Speaker 2 jamming a wedge between Americans and immigrant Americans.

Speaker 2 Listen to the next cut here.

Speaker 7 As has so often occurred, the billionaire class has sought to convince those making $30 an hour that their enemies are those earning $20 an hour.

Speaker 3 They want the people to...

Speaker 2 Stu, can you explain that? Play that again. Explain this sentence to me.

Speaker 2 Play it again from the top.

Speaker 7 As has so often occurred, the billionaire class has sought to convince those making $30 an hour that their enemies are those earning $20 an hour.

Speaker 2 Stop. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? I mean,

Speaker 4 the case is that

Speaker 4 the Republican Party, the rich, evil rich people,

Speaker 4 billionaires

Speaker 4 are saying, or trying to convince everybody that the problem in our country are the poor people, the

Speaker 2 so exactly the opposite of what he's doing.

Speaker 2 He's trying to convince the people who are

Speaker 2 $20

Speaker 2 laborers that the 30-to-billionaire class is their problem, is their enemy.

Speaker 4 No, very true.

Speaker 3 You might find some hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 A little bit, a little bit. Go ahead.
Play the rest, please.

Speaker 7 They want the people to fight amongst ourselves so that we remain distracted from the work of remaking a long-broken system.

Speaker 7 We refuse to let them dictate the rules of the game anymore.

Speaker 8 They can play by the same rules as the rest of us.

Speaker 2 Amen. I'm bald.

Speaker 7 Together, we will usher in a generation of change. And if we embrace this brave new course,

Speaker 7 rather than fleeing from it, we can respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength it fears, not the appeasement it craves.

Speaker 2 Now he goes on the very next sentence, which we didn't grab. After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump how to defeat him, it's the city that gave rise to him.

Speaker 2 If there is any way to terrify a despot, it's by dismantling the very conditions that allowed him to accumulate power. How did Donald Trump accumulate power?

Speaker 2 How do you do that?

Speaker 2 Capitalism.

Speaker 2 Capitalism. He accumulated power by making money, by

Speaker 2 creating businesses, by building, you know, New York. A lot of New York was built by Donald Trump.
So that's how he accumulated power.

Speaker 2 So what he's saying here, you want to talk about the mask coming off.

Speaker 2 What he's saying here is we have to now dismantle that system of capitalism because that's what gave him power one last cut 47 please

Speaker 7 after all if anyone can show a nation betrayed by donald trump how to defeat him it is the city that gave rise to him

Speaker 7 listen if there is any way to terrify a despot It is by dismantling the very conditions that allowed him to accumulate power.

Speaker 4 He's so obsessed with this guy.

Speaker 7 This is not only how we stop Trump, it's how we stop the next one.

Speaker 2 It's amazing.

Speaker 2 It's going to be interesting to watch New York City over the next four years. Very, very interesting.
Because he is

Speaker 2 going to be pushed by the left. They are going to demand that he does these things and he wants to do them.
So let's see what he gets done and how many great changes are coming to that city.

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Speaker 2 Stu, give me an update, a quick highlight of everything that we covered in hour number one

Speaker 2 and any new additional information on the election last night.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was always going to be an uphill battle for Republicans, an off-year election when the Republican is in power. Also, most of these elections taking place in blue states.

Speaker 4 So it kind of gave you a range of outcomes from if everything goes the best case possible for Republicans would be close victories, squeaking out victories in some of these states, and probably close losses in some of the situations.

Speaker 4 And the range of outcomes went to the idea that it could be a blowout all over the board, much closer to that side of the outcome spectrum, if you will. It was a bad night for Republicans.

Speaker 4 And there's very little I can find, honestly,

Speaker 4 to be super excited about. But it is important to not overstate the meaning of all of this either.
As I said,

Speaker 2 it always blue states.

Speaker 4 This is not a pill battle for Republicans anyway. So it doesn't mean 2026 is lost or 2028 is lost.
But look, if you thought everything was going swimmingly, this is a nice wake-up call.

Speaker 4 You should be concerned, and we're going to have to work really hard.

Speaker 2 And I think this should be a wake-up call for everybody in the administration as well. The president is doing things that are affecting our economy here.

Speaker 2 He is working on changing the globalist design to make things American first. And, you know, other countries, you know, they can be first too in their own way.
But trying to bring back, you know,

Speaker 2 to get away from this globalist new world order and back to a system where everybody is working for their country and trying to help and work along and we all have the free market.

Speaker 2 And that is going to affect us eventually, but it's not affecting the average person yet. And when it comes to 2026,

Speaker 2 you know, the gas prices being as low as they are is not good enough because energy prices for electricity are going up.

Speaker 2 People need to have some confidence that the economy is turning page in a better direction in the next year. Otherwise, it could be very tough, as it always is for a sitting president.

Speaker 2 They always lose in Congress. It would be a huge, huge

Speaker 2 upset of tradition if the Republicans gain, but we cannot lose the House. All right.
Let me go to Chip Roy. Chip is joining us.
He is introducing a new bill

Speaker 2 called the, what is it called? I love the name of this thing, Chip. What is the name of this bill?

Speaker 3 I don't remember what the name of it is. Just to stop care from having tax status in any terrorist organizations.

Speaker 2 The No Tax Exemptions for Terror Act.

Speaker 3 I love that.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 that is the clearest a bill has ever been. The No Tax Exemptions for Terror Act.
I love it. Yeah.
So what is that?

Speaker 3 We came up with that on Friday when we were filing the bill and we were coming back and forth and my chief of staff came up with that title. Credit to her.
But we, look, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 And if I can take one minute to pretend that I'm sitting in Glenn Beck's studio on television and I'm going out and I'm going to do whiteboards, okay?

Speaker 3 And so for your listeners out there, like pretend for a minute that I've got that video capability.

Speaker 3 Imagine, if you will, an enormous number of bubbles of NGOs and all of these nonprofits that are out there under the cloak of things like Catholic charities or Jewish groups or evangelical groups or maybe they're secular groups.

Speaker 3 Oh, and they seem all nice and they're doing all these nice and warm and fuzzy things, but they're all involved with moving people into our country, right?

Speaker 3 They're all a part of the 250 organizations that the Center for Immigration Studies said were a part of the mass invasion during the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 Now over here, create a group of bubbles that are all of the groups that are pushing the district attorneys that are radical Marxists, the Soros-funded DAs that are putting criminals on our streets.

Speaker 3 And there's a whole cadre over there under the Wren Collective that the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund outlined. Now over here on this board, show the bubbles that

Speaker 2 wait, we lost you. Show the bubbles at what?

Speaker 3 They want to see radical Sharia on our streets.

Speaker 3 Now on top of the board, put the Arabella group, which are Democrat operatives with Clinton and with Biden operatives, and they're all in organization with and coordinated with the bubbles above them, which are the funding streams from Bill Gates, from George Soros, from radical billionaires across the country, and taxpayer dollars, money through the United Nations, grant money from the United States going to all of those NGOs.

Speaker 3 Remember the first bubbles that I put on the board? And all of that money is then being coordinated in a war against you and me and freedom and Western civilization.

Speaker 3 So, yes, I I believe CARE and every other one of these organizations that are radicalized against Americans ought to be not just disbanded from their C3 status, but probably broken up.

Speaker 3 And we should go through and look at the conspiracy that they're involved in and probably violating our laws in RICO violations. But at a minimum, we should take away their tax status.

Speaker 3 So, I introduced legislation to do that as a shot across the pow.

Speaker 3 And we need to go further than that. I hope that's clear without a video board.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah, it is. I have, you know, I made it as you were doing it.
I just

Speaker 2 kind of put it together the way you suggested, all these little bubbles. And you can see, I mean, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 And what's crazy is that we did not assume that our tax dollars were going to any of these places.

Speaker 2 I mean, they have gotten so wicked and so smart the way, you know, I always knew that Soros and the Tides Foundation and you suspect that, gosh, you have all of this money and it's all going out the door and nobody knows where that money is going.

Speaker 2 And we focus when we find out, you know, what the budget is, we're like, wait, you're doing turtle studies on what?

Speaker 2 And nobody is asking, but wait a minute, what about the other

Speaker 2 trillion dollars that nobody is tracking that we that are just going out to these NGOs? We are funding our own demise.

Speaker 3 100%, Glenn, and that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 And I'm glad you said that because Republicans, with all due respect to my colleagues, get distracted with shiny objects and they go say, and I look, I've done it too, right? Because it's easy to say.

Speaker 3 And you go out there and you say, oh, yeah, it went to the turtle funding or it went to this waste. And people go, oh, my God, that's terrible.
It's like $5 million.

Speaker 3 The real engine is that flow of money so that, okay, dollars that are going in, you know, to organizations that a lot of people view, and because they do some good work, they go to some organization, take Catholic charities or take some evangelical groups or whatever, or some Jewish organization and you go you're sending them money because oh they're doing good things and they're helping people but then you start realizing you peel back to onions and they're all a part of all of this and the grants that flow through so that when you're Todd Benceman or my friends from the Center for Integration Studies and you're down at the Darien Gap and you see that the United Nations money, United States taxpayer money, grants were going to these organizations to funnel people from around the world to come up through Mexico and into the United States or be flown by plane into the United States.

Speaker 3 And then you wonder why we have so many Somalis and so many Muslim Sharia adherents that have dumped into our country. It's heavily because of what we've been funding.

Speaker 3 It's heavily because of our money that we give to the United Nations. So we need to stop that.
And we need to be, look, what I've done with this bill is one step of a thousand we need to take, right?

Speaker 3 The bill that I did two weeks ago to say, let's start vetting people for adherence to Sharia law. Let's pass HR2.
Let's do a bill.

Speaker 3 I'm going to introduce a a bill this week to say we should freeze all immigration until we've actually got a handle on all of the ways in which it's being abused, whether it's birthright citizenship, Plyler Vido, which says we have to educate illegal children, the Sharia adherence and making sure that we're not importing people that are hostile to Western civilization, making sure people aren't on the public dole.

Speaker 3 These are all things we need to do, Glenn, and we're not doing it and we're funding the demise of our own country and it needs to stop.

Speaker 3 And Congress needs to back up President Trump with at least as aggressive of agenda as he's putting forward.

Speaker 3 We can't just pass the big, beautiful bill and then pat ourselves on the back and hope we win the midterms. Let's go back to Congress.
Let's pass a stock trading ban.

Speaker 3 Let's pass HR2 to secure the border. Let's codify some of the president's executive orders.

Speaker 3 Let's pass health care freedom and dismantle the stranglehold that insurance companies and hospital corporations have over our health care.

Speaker 3 Let's go to a war for the American people and then they'll want to go port us at the ballot box.

Speaker 2 You know, there's this big reject APAC thing that is going on right now. And look, I think if you're going to do that, then you've got to do the American Cubans,

Speaker 2 the Iranian-American

Speaker 2 PAC.

Speaker 2 There's a ton of these. And I just want them all to play by the same rules.
You know, whatever those rules are, everybody plays by the same rules.

Speaker 2 But, you know, one of the things we don't look at is, you know, you look at like AIPAC, and I think it's average, not election years, is about 60,

Speaker 2 what, 60 million, 60 million dollars? It can't be, it's got to be billion.

Speaker 2 Nothing ever sounds big anymore.

Speaker 2 But they're spending all this money in the United States. And everybody says, oh, well, they're just controlling the United States.
It is million, 30 to 60 million on average, okay?

Speaker 2 But if you look at Saudi Arabia, that's state money. And they're spending $93 million

Speaker 3 and since 1986, $2.1 billion dollars on our universities and they're not alone and and nobody is saying anything about that and i wonder why why why go an i i cannot thank you enough for bringing that up right especially like i'm not going to get into all this controversy of the last week and everything that's been going on and and uh you know uh with the heritage foundation all that stuff like look here's the bottom line uh you've nailed it right there is a vast vast amount of money flowing into the united states from the Middle East and to our universities and into political organizations and designed very heavily to advance a march of people who want to upend our way of life.

Speaker 3 Okay?

Speaker 2 China is involved in it too.

Speaker 3 Oh, 100%. The Chi Coms are 100% a part of that.

Speaker 3 And by the way, this is why we should be banning not just Chinese Communist Party ownership of our land, but frankly, any foreign national shouldn't be owning our land.

Speaker 3 Like, why are we letting people own texas and buy texas this is one of the things by the way that i get a really strong reaction from people on the campaign trail i talk about the source das i talk about the border i talk about islamification but then i talk about something else glen and it's related to what we're talking about the corporatification of texas and of our you know great red states we are allowing corporations to come in and buy up our homes literally

Speaker 3 buying up our homes we're allowing them to buy up our hospitals, prevent doctors from being able to form their own hospitals.

Speaker 3 We're allowing them to buy up our land, our cattle, our meat packing plants, some foreign-owned, some domestic, but it's major corporate, and a lot of it's foreign.

Speaker 3 And I don't want to be governed by boardrooms in New York City any more than I want to be governed by the federal government. I want Texas to own Texas.
I want Texans to own Texas.

Speaker 3 And that's one of the principal things I want to fight on as Attorney General.

Speaker 2 I tell you,

Speaker 2 there's this big, beautiful hospital that was built

Speaker 2 just where my home in Texas was.

Speaker 2 And I was so excited to have this really great hospital that close. And after it was built, it was, I think it was like Texas Doctor's Hospital.

Speaker 2 And it was just all these independent doctors that wanted to do a hospital the way they wanted to do a hospital. And I walk in, and because I didn't even know they had opened, but we had an emergency.

Speaker 2 And so I'm like, take them to the emergency room. I think it's open.
Take him to the emergency room. And

Speaker 2 the entire place is empty. And the reason why is because these corporate hospitals said, if you do anything with that hospital, you're out of our system.

Speaker 2 You won't be having any privileges at our hospital. And they put that hospital out of it.
Brand new, beautiful hospital. Doctors wanted their own independence and the big corporate hospital.

Speaker 2 put them out of business. It was insane.

Speaker 3 This is a major problem.

Speaker 3 And I know we're covering a lot of topics, but

Speaker 3 it's all related, Glenn. I mean, this is a war against our way of life.

Speaker 3 And Republicans better get busy providing alternative solutions, both calling out the war so that people know it and see it, because they all feel it, but also then provide alternatives.

Speaker 3 Look, I put out five years ago a 50-page document called A Case for Healthcare Freedom. And well, actually, I introduced the bill five years ago.

Speaker 3 I put out the case for healthcare freedom two years ago.

Speaker 3 And that document outlines an array of options where we empower patients, empower doctors, expand health savings accounts, expand direct primary care, give people tools, allow them to be able to control their care, and drive prices down, free up doctors so you're not having corporate-owned hospitals and insurance companies making your decisions.

Speaker 3 Now, that is an environment that most Americans would prefer. And nobody will be left out.
Prices will go down. Health sharing ministries can fill the void.
Medi share and a lot of other options.

Speaker 3 And we can have the shining city on the hill. Let's go to talk about that to the American people.

Speaker 3 Let's talk about driving housing prices down by eliminating private equity and all of these big corporate ownership of local dirt in our communities.

Speaker 3 Allow only individuals to own homes and our dirts in our communities and farms to be locally owned by Texans.

Speaker 3 We can then have cattle that you grow in Texas, slaughter in Texas, put in stores in Texas, and eat by Texans. That's the way we ought to do things.
I'm all for free trade. So are you.

Speaker 3 So are most of us that love free enterprise. 100%.

Speaker 3 But I want to make sure we don't have corporate decision makers with crony capital dollars from government that are regulated, telling us how to live, and then wonder why the socialists are on the march and wonder why Mabdani's elected because we're not offering bold solutions that will excite the American people.

Speaker 3 And that was,

Speaker 3 by the way, what Charlie Kirk did a great job of and why he inspired young people. And he was also unafraid to talk about his faith.
But that's a different conversation.

Speaker 2 Chip, I got to run, but thank you so much. You should read this.
It's a Blaze exclusive. Chip Roy introduces Bill to strip absurd tax exempt status from care and other groups with terrorist ties.

Speaker 2 Should have ended it long ago.

Speaker 2 Chip Roy, thank you very much. If you want to get involved in his

Speaker 2 Senate campaign, no, he's running for

Speaker 2 AG in Texas. We make a great AG in Texas.
Just follow him, Chip Roy.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Let's say hello to our friend, Congressman Riley Moore, a Republican from West Virginia.

Speaker 2 You know, Riley, before we get into what's happening in Africa, can I just ask you,

Speaker 2 what the heck is going to happen if the Supreme Court decides to say the president doesn't have a right to these tariffs?

Speaker 2 What happens? Well,

Speaker 9 you know, Glenn,

Speaker 9 I'm sitting on pins and needles on this this one because I have been a huge supporter of these tariffs.

Speaker 9 I think it's going to help reindustrialize our country, bring back these jobs that are actually meaningful to communities like mine in the state of West Virginia.

Speaker 9 We're going to have to try to find some way to work around this,

Speaker 9 depending on how this case comes down.

Speaker 9 If it were to come down in the negative and look through the details of that or pass legislation here to give the president the authority, which I think he rightfully already has as the president of the United States to levy these tariffs.

Speaker 9 So I'm very hopeful that this goes the way that it should, but certainly watching very closely.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think it's going that way.

Speaker 2 Just based on the questions that are coming out in the Supreme Court today, they seem very, very skeptical. And, you know, I'm not sure the president has that constitutional authority.

Speaker 2 I'm just worried about the aftermath because we're deep in it now.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 What is going to happen? This is not going to be good. It's not going to be good.
All right. Riley, let me talk to you about Nigeria and what's happening in Nigeria.

Speaker 2 It is the scariest, most deadly country in the world, if you happen to be a Christian, and nobody seems to

Speaker 2 be talking about it. And, you know, you have been involved in, you know, urging Secretary Rubio to say Nigeria is a country of particular concern, which I don't know what that means exactly.

Speaker 2 What doors does that unlock?

Speaker 9 Yeah, so that is that designation actually sits in U.S. code, so it does unlock 15 different levers for the president when a country is designated a country of particular concern.

Speaker 9 That could be holding development money. That could be going to international institutions to freeze assistance through there.

Speaker 9 That could also halt security assistance, which would be arms sales and training and things like that, that have been going on in Nigeria. We could sanction individuals.

Speaker 9 It gives the president the authority to do a number of different things that can really, I think, leverage the Nigerians to actually start caring about our brothers and sisters in Christ who have been getting murdered for the profession of their faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Speaker 9 So I think this is a good first step, and we're going to see how the Nigerians react to this. Now, I've been having meetings with the Department of State.

Speaker 9 We are going to meet with the Nigerians here at some point as well, here in DC.

Speaker 9 So, we're going to see

Speaker 9 what they are going to bring to the table.

Speaker 9 But also, the President, who always puts all options on the table, has said if they don't start fixing this, there could potentially be kinetic military action

Speaker 9 in Nigeria.

Speaker 2 What does that mean?

Speaker 2 Boots on the ground?

Speaker 9 No,

Speaker 9 to me, it does not mean that. To me,

Speaker 9 you have complex issues that are going on over there where you have in the middle band of the country. This is where the Fulanis are, and these are herdsmen.
And this is where you get this

Speaker 9 radical strain, obviously, Islamic terrorists, these Fulanis, these are herdsmen tribe, and they have been attacking Christians in that middle band.

Speaker 9 The northern part of the country is mostly Muslim, southern part of the country is mostly Christian.

Speaker 9 So that middle part where they graze their cattle and all that is where you see a lot of these flashpoints and murdering going on.

Speaker 9 But then in the northern part of the country is where you have ISIS, Boko Haram.

Speaker 9 That's where they are operating and where they're taking over towns and communities as we saw in Syria, right, previously. Same type of thing,

Speaker 9 terrorism franchising going on over there, all through the Lake Chad region,

Speaker 9 actually.

Speaker 9 So that's where I think

Speaker 9 if it made sense

Speaker 9 to

Speaker 9 have some type of military action in forms of an airstrike or something like that,

Speaker 9 to...

Speaker 9 to be able to tamp down some of the leadership and break up some of that structure in there. That's something that would make sense.

Speaker 9 But to me, just speaking for myself, I want to try to work with the Nigerians for them to do the right thing here.

Speaker 9 President Trump obviously mentioned his true social, me specifically, to look into this, which we are doing here in Congress. I want them to do the right thing.

Speaker 9 I think the Nigerians actually have the chance right now to actually strengthen their relationship with the United States if they're going to do the right thing. But we can't

Speaker 9 to continue the slaughter of Christians, where we have over 7,000 just this year have been killed for being Christian. We can't allow that to continue as a Christian country ourselves, which we are.

Speaker 9 I know we're, you know, some might debate that, I promise you, and nobody knows more about the founding of this country than Glenn Beck, is that this is a Christian nation founded on Christian values, and we have to stand up for these people because nobody else is paying attention to this other than you and some folks at Fox News, and that's really about it.

Speaker 2 Well, I tell you,

Speaker 2 you know, I was planning on bringing my cameras with me, and I was going to go to Nigeria in the first quarter. And I have had

Speaker 2 briefings and warnings from the highest levels: do not go. You are not going.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, yes, I am. I want to bring this story.
And they're like, you can't go. I mean,

Speaker 2 I've been to war zones. And this one, they're like, this is the most dangerous place on earth right now.
That's pretty remarkable that nobody's really talking about it.

Speaker 9 It really is. And it's this silent genocide that's just continued on now since 2009, where we have in between 50 to 100,000 Christians murdered for their faith.

Speaker 9 Our brothers and sisters over there suffering, and no one's done anything about it. You might remember they bring back our girls movement around 2012-ish, 14.

Speaker 3 70 of those girls have still never been brought back.

Speaker 9 And it's just people just forgot about it. That's fine.
You know, Boker Haram just has them. It's not fine.
It's not okay. And

Speaker 9 there are a lot of levers that the administration is able to pull here, I think, to get the Nigerians on the right course. It's not that they don't have resources.

Speaker 9 This is an oil-rich country with a lot of critical minerals. They have the means to be able to do this.

Speaker 9 I think at the end of the day, it's a question of prioritization and what their actual goals are. And we need them to focus on this or the president is going to start to focus on them.

Speaker 2 Well, I will tell you, you know, 19,000 churches

Speaker 2 have been burned. And yet, from what I'm hearing, there are some in the Nigerian government that are like, no, this is not what's happening.
This is not genocide. It's not about Christians.

Speaker 2 It's just, you know, it's just squabbles.

Speaker 2 Really? 50,000 to 100,000 people in 19,000 churches have been burned in little squabbles that don't have anything to do with radicalized Islam?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 9 exactly. And the figures that I've gotten from folks on the ground is, look, do terrorists kill other people than Christians? Yes, of course they do.

Speaker 9 But we're talking about five to one is the ratio Christians versus non-Christians being killed over there right now.

Speaker 9 Secondly, I want to point out for everybody, President Trump put this designation on Nigeria in his first term.

Speaker 9 It was taken off by the Biden administration because they claimed the killings had more to do with arible land and herders, and actually the root cause was climate change.

Speaker 9 Yes, that's why these killings are happening because of climate change, which that's where we saw the murder rate just skyrocket during the Biden administration.

Speaker 9 And President Trump, who cares very deeply about these issues, he's not going to allow that to persist anymore.

Speaker 2 He said, if there is an attack, it will be fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs that attack our cherished Christians.

Speaker 2 I will tell you,

Speaker 2 I've, you know, been reading up on it and doing our homework.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it reminded me of how the Germans went into Poland, where they would just take whole communities and they would just put them in the church and then lock the doors and then burn it to the ground.

Speaker 2 That's what's happening in Nigeria. They're doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 They're burning churches, not just burning churches. They're gathering Christians up, putting them in, locking the doors, and then burning it down.

Speaker 2 So all of these women and children and men die in a fire in their church. And it's horrific.
It's horrific. What does the average person need to do?

Speaker 9 The average person needs to call their member of Congress and elevate this and make this an issue that that is on their radar, that they care about.

Speaker 9 I'm introducing a resolution, which would be a sense of Congress that we support the president and we support the people and the Christians of Nigeria and their plight.

Speaker 9 And we condemn what the Nigerian government is doing, their inaction around this. So that resolution should be getting introduced here soon.
So that would be something that would be hugely helpful.

Speaker 2 It will be interesting to see who votes for that and who doesn't.

Speaker 2 That would have been a no-brainer 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 Just a no-brainer.

Speaker 2 And now I wonder if you can even get that passed. That's sad.

Speaker 9 It is sad.

Speaker 9 But I think we need to put it to the test. Let's put it to the test.
I'm certainly, you know, if I'm whipping the votes, I don't have Elon Omar in my yes column. But,

Speaker 9 you know,

Speaker 9 let's put it to the test here.

Speaker 2 Riley, good to talk to you. My best to your family and your kids.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 You bet. Congressman Riley Moore, you can follow him on X at rep Riley Moore or Riley Moore.house.gov.

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