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Speaker 2 Okay, wow, where do we even begin here?

Speaker 2 Let's start with

Speaker 2 Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 2 Yesterday, she came out and she said that Lee Zeldon was receiving money from

Speaker 2 Jeffrey Epstein. And Lee Zeldon's like, what?

Speaker 2 No, I didn't. Now he knows that he did get money from Jeffrey Epstein, just not the Jeffrey Epstein, another Another Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 Here is Jasmine Crockett trying to spin her mistake on CNN last night. Listen to this.

Speaker 4 Democrat who's been on defense over Jeffrey Epstein is Stacey Plaskett. She represents the Virgin Islands.
She was texting with Jeffrey Epstein the day of Michael Cohen's hearing.

Speaker 4 Her questions pretty closely followed the text messages between the two of them to ask about Rona Graff, Trump's longtime assistant.

Speaker 4 You were defending her today, or in recent days, yesterday, and you talked about Republicans taking money from a Jeffrey Epstein. Here's what you said.

Speaker 5 Who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein? As I had my team dig in very quickly: Mitt Romney, the NRCC,

Speaker 5 Lee Zeldon, George Bush, Wynne Redd, McCain Palin, Rick Lazio.

Speaker 4 You mentioned Lee Zeldon there. He's now a cabinet secretary.
He responded and said it was actually Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the convicted sex trafficker.

Speaker 4 Unfortunate for that doctor, but that is who donated to a prior campaign of his. Do you want to correct the record on the people that you listen?

Speaker 5 I never say that it was that Jeffrey Epstein. Just so the people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there.

Speaker 5 And because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn't even try to go through the FEC.

Speaker 5 So my team, what they did is they Googled. And that is specifically why I said, A Jeffrey Epstein.
Unlike Republicans, I at least don't go out and just tell lies.

Speaker 5 Because it was not the same lie, that's fine. But when Lee Zeldon had something to say, all he had to say was it was a different

Speaker 5 Jeffrey Epstein. He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein.
So at least I wasn't trying to mislead people. Now that I dug in to find out who this doctor is, I have to say.

Speaker 2 Can you just stop here for a second? There's so much to digest. We got to just stop for just a second.
You weren't misleading people because you didn't say it was the Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 You said it was a Jeffrey Epstein. What is the problem with getting money from Dr.
Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 2 There's no problem. That'd be like, and Stu Bregier has been taking money from Bob Stevenson.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 what's the problem? He's been working for Bob Stevenson for years.

Speaker 2 He was delivering papers as a kid to Bob Stevenson's front door. Who's Bob Stevenson? There's not a problem with that.

Speaker 2 Why would you go out and say, you know, if she had come out and said, you know what, Lee Zeldon was also taking money from Bob Stevenson and Jim Furstingenberger, Steenberg?

Speaker 2 I mean, then it would be fine. You clearly were smearing, not misleading,

Speaker 2 not misleading. Oh,

Speaker 2 what's the problem from taking it from other than poor Dr. Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 First of all, bad for that guy. That life sucks.

Speaker 1 That life does suck. Bad life sucks.
If you're Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, you got to think about a name change.
But there's hundreds of Dr.

Speaker 1 not Dr. Jeffrey Epsteins across the country.
Hundreds.

Speaker 1 And I,

Speaker 1 I mean, she was designed in a lab to make me happy. Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 2 I love her so much.

Speaker 1 She is like,

Speaker 2 if you could formulate the perfect Democrat,

Speaker 1 I think I would have to just put her out there. She just says the,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 she can't even get her bad defense right over this. Like, she's trying to say, well, I didn't lie.
Like, that's your defense in theory, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I threw this in here, and I noticed that at the time. We talked about it.
I think it was yesterday. That she said Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 She knew that she, which actually makes it worse, right? Like she knew she was lying. She knew there was a good chance this wasn't Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 But the last thing in the world you could say is that it wasn't the one leading.

Speaker 2 It wouldn't be a problem if you would say, look,

Speaker 2 all of these people have taken money from a Jeffrey Epstein. Doubt that it's the same Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 Might be, might not be. But I mean, I know, I know.
But at least it would be no value, but at least you could say I'm not trying to mislead people.

Speaker 2 I am trying to create doubt in people's minds, but I'm not saying he's taken money from Jeffrey Epstein. You know, when she just lists all of these people,

Speaker 2 I mean, let's look at her donations. Let's see if she's ever taken money from A, Charlie Manson.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? She's taken money from A, John Wayne Gacy.

Speaker 2 Hello. A Ted Bundy

Speaker 2 has been seen around her house. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's crazy. It's crazy.
And she knew exactly what she was doing. And I hope that she continues.
I hope she continues to gain power

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 2 love and respect from the Democrats because she is insane.

Speaker 2 She's insane. She's so reckless.
She's insane. She is.

Speaker 1 And by the way, this is the person person that we are told that it should be the face of the party, that they should lean into the way she talks because she's such a good communicator.

Speaker 1 And she gets on all these shows, Glenn.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is a massive problem in our politics, and it affects the left more than it affects the right, but it affects both sides to some degree, which is we are incentivized.

Speaker 1 The entire system is set up to reward people like her. who just say the dumbest things possible and get and and the most irresponsible and reckless things possible and get all the clicks.

Speaker 1 I mean, this woman's been on like Colbert.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 1 She's a complete nobody who is wrong all the time. And she's getting on all these massive shows.
She's getting booked everywhere. She's living the ultimate life of today's modern congresswoman.
And

Speaker 1 what's going to stop her? The incentives are right there for her to continue.

Speaker 2 Do you think that she doesn't know she's dead? I mean, because didn't a Crockett die at the Alamo? Was that her? I think it was her.

Speaker 2 I know a Crockett died at the Alamo.

Speaker 2 I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure.
I mean, just what a dope.

Speaker 6 Cling, can I just point out? It's like I'm a part of a research team because she put her team on this. Yeah, we got to get it.

Speaker 2 It's cracked. But quickly.
But quickly.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and I mean, it was, I always thought that the con, especially Congress research, would have these amazing tools.

Speaker 2 No, they don't.

Speaker 6 And we like, our team struggles over this. We're constantly trying to stay ahead of the curve.

Speaker 2 And the last thing we do is Google. Google searches?

Speaker 2 Google. That's what you do at Congress? Yes.

Speaker 2 That is what you do. That is what you do.

Speaker 2 Don't you have to fire your whole team after this? Like, if you were a rational human being, I would be done. No, but she, I don't think, I have a feeling that her team briefed her.

Speaker 2 It's why she did say A. Jeffrey Epstein.
You're right. They briefed her and said, this is not probably not the same guy.
It might have even said, if you're Googling, it might have even said Dr.

Speaker 2 Jeffrey Epstein. Why wouldn't it?

Speaker 2 If that's who gave that money,

Speaker 2 it most likely said Dr. Jeffrey Epstein.
And so they would say it's not the Jeffrey Epstein. Yes, but that's okay.
I mean, she clearly knew. So who's she going to fire? This is what she wanted.

Speaker 2 Just the smear.

Speaker 1 Do we have time to play the rest of this clip? Because there's more to it. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 It's amazing.

Speaker 1 Play the let.

Speaker 5 Play the letter.

Speaker 5 So I will trust and take what he says is that it wasn't that Jeffrey Epstein, but I was not attempting to mislead anybody. I literally had maybe 20 minutes before I had to do that debate.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but people might see that and say, when you're talking.

Speaker 2 Stop. Stop.
Stop. So you don't say it.
Right. I literally had 20 minutes.
So

Speaker 2 I didn't know that the sky wasn't on fire, that that was actually the sun. I only had 20 minutes before I said, my God, the whole sky is on fire.

Speaker 2 This is why I love her.

Speaker 1 This is why I love her.

Speaker 1 She had no idea whether the accusation she was making was true. And she didn't even consider not saying it.

Speaker 1 The only thing that she could come up with in her brain was whatever information comes in in this rush time period, just go with it.

Speaker 1 And it's like

Speaker 2 why?

Speaker 2 Do you know why? And I don't know if she's smart enough to know this,

Speaker 2 but you can say whatever you want want as a congressman on the floor of Congress and you can't be held liable. So you could say the worst thing.

Speaker 2 You could say he was having sex with four-year-olds with Jeffrey Epstein, and it could be a complete lie and you cannot be held responsible because you said it on the floor of the House.

Speaker 2 That's why the standards are so low. The standards are absolutely so low for these congressmen.
She could say whatever she wants.

Speaker 2 If she would have said that not on the floor of the house, Lise Eldon could sue her. Right.
He could say, you knew what you were doing. You were smearing me and my reputation.

Speaker 2 Intentionally, you knew exactly what you were doing. And whether he would win or not, he could sue.

Speaker 2 She could have said, and he was having sex with a four-year-old, as long as she said it on the floor of

Speaker 2 the house, not a problem. This is the Harry Reid prison.
That's how bad. Yeah.
Yeah. That is how bad our Congress is out of control.
They've written all these laws for themselves to protect them.

Speaker 2 So they can be completely irresponsible and it's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know if it's that or if she's just a dunce because it's hard to know with her.

Speaker 2 She's just dishonest. She's just dishonest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's dishonest and bad at it. And that's one of the things I love about her.
You know, she's not, it's not like she's pulling these things. There's no wool being pulled over anyone's eyes.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 1 pathetic.

Speaker 2 Is there more to this?

Speaker 2 Can we play the rest of it out?

Speaker 4 Play the rest of it. Make it sound like he took money from

Speaker 4 a registered sex offender.

Speaker 5 No, but I literally did not know. I love that.
When you search FEC files, and that's what I had my team to do, I texted them and I said, listen, we're going up.

Speaker 5 They are saying that she took donations.

Speaker 4 Right, but someone might say, well, your team should have done the homework to make sure it wasn't the conviction.

Speaker 5 Within 20 minutes, you could not find that out. Not from the search.

Speaker 5 I love that. I just want to search on FEC.
So, number one, I made sure that I was clear that it was a Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 5 But I never said that it was specifically that Jeffrey Epstein because I knew that we would need more time to really dig in.

Speaker 4 Well, Stacey Plaskett was texting the Jeffrey Epstein that we're talking about. You voted against the censure for her to remove her from her committees.

Speaker 4 You know, we pressed the minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, on this last night. Maybe you don't think she should be removed from her committees.

Speaker 4 Why do so many Democrats seem unwilling to say it's inappropriate to be texting with a registered sex offender about what you're going to ask a witness at a congressional hearing?

Speaker 5 So I'm not going to necessarily say that that's the case. Now, this is somebody that was a former prosecutor.

Speaker 5 Now, I haven't sat down and talked about all the specifics of why Stacey was doing what she was doing.

Speaker 5 I know that when she got up and she spoke, she talked about the fact that this is one of her constituents.

Speaker 5 At the end of the day, what I know of prosecutors is that they are typically talking to co-defendants. They are typically talking to the people that have the best information.

Speaker 5 And what you had was you had the former attorney for the president that was sitting there.

Speaker 5 And honestly, we knew or she knew or at least Jeffrey Epstein presented that he was very cozy with the president. He had more information, registered sex offender or not.

Speaker 5 The bigger question is, why is it that the president was so cozy with a registered sex offender even after he ultimately ended up with some of his convictions?

Speaker 5 And seemingly he had absolutely been on the plane with him. We know about the birthday card.

Speaker 5 The bigger question is, why is the president of the United States not the one that is in the hot seat for his relationship instead of us saying, oh, you know what?

Speaker 5 We're going to take her off of her committee because he decided. decided to text her.

Speaker 2 Stop, stop, stop. I can't take any more of those.
I can't. I mean, literally, none of the guys gods she said there was true.

Speaker 2 None of it is true, and she's presenting it as absolute facts. CNN is allowing her to present it as fact.

Speaker 2 And the latest is

Speaker 2 the smear last week on the Epstein stuff. It shows that Epstein thought that the reason he was going to jail or going through all of the problem is because Donald Trump was the whistleblower.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 it's incredible what they can get away with. And all of that is.
It's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 All of that relationship happened before these convictions happened.

Speaker 1 I mean, again, I don't know that she doesn't know that, but it's so fascinating to watch CNN's response to it, too. They give her...
Which is nothing.

Speaker 1 How many times have they said, Donald Trump says this without evidence? Where's that on the Jasmine Crockett allegations here?

Speaker 1 How about the situation where Caitlin Collins, who at least, I will say at least kind of asks questions here, but she can't even take responsibility for them.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, well, some people are saying that you shouldn't just blurt out obvious lies in the middle of a house session. Like, what do you mean some people are saying?

Speaker 1 You never say that when it's the president of the United States.

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Speaker 2 We just did a quick Google search

Speaker 2 and we came up with Schumer got thousands in donations from Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 Now, it's not a Jeffrey Epstein, it's the Jeffrey Epstein. Why wasn't that included? Why wasn't that included, Jasmine? You know, you want to know, you want to make sure you know who it is.

Speaker 2 There it is, and it is confirmed.

Speaker 2 All right, let me go to Lee Zeldon. Now, Stu.

Speaker 2 Tell the Lee Zeldon story here quickly.

Speaker 2 No, sorry, not Lee Zeldon.

Speaker 1 Summers. Larry Summers.
Okay, so Summers. Larry Summers.

Speaker 1 You know, the recent development, you know, he's a guy who was the Treasury Secretary during Obama. He's been in some controversies.
He's also, though, been right on some stuff.

Speaker 1 He was one of the only guys on the left saying, hey, this Biden spending is going to lead to inflation. He was hammered on the left by that.
So he's been all over the board

Speaker 1 on that front.

Speaker 2 Good friend with Bill Clinton. Yeah,

Speaker 1 big Democratic insider for a very long time, though he has his detractors on that side.

Speaker 1 But he

Speaker 1 is in the Epstein emails that came out. Again, that's different than the files that will be coming out.

Speaker 1 The emails that come out, and for a particularly shady moment where he is talking to Jeffrey Epstein in 2019. Now, it's important to note the timeline here.

Speaker 1 It's one thing to talk, you know, Donald Trump was friends with Epstein in the early 2000s before any of this was even known.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's much to note about that, though the media obsesses about it constantly.

Speaker 1 You know, even after he had his first conviction, it wasn't maybe widely known the scope of this thing until really 2018. In 2018, there was a Miami Herald report that laid all of this out

Speaker 1 in extreme, excruciating detail over multiple releases about how bad Epstein was.

Speaker 2 That's when everything changes.

Speaker 1 That's when everything changes. He's going back and forth with him in 2019, and what he's going back and forth with him in 2019 has become a bit of a conversation piece.

Speaker 2 Right. And it does not appear to be anything illegal.
Right. It doesn't seem to be anything, you know, with underage

Speaker 2 children or, you know, teenagers. It's just the fact that he's still friends with Jeffrey Epstein and asking him dating advice.
How to be, can you be my wingman on this?

Speaker 2 Well, yesterday he went back to class at Harvard.

Speaker 2 We have the audio next.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So Larry Summers,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 a government official in the past,

Speaker 2 a respected economist, I guess.

Speaker 2 You know, I've never found him to be, you know, a guy that, you know, I wanted his opinion on. However, he has been right about a couple of things.

Speaker 2 You know, for instance, the Biden, you know, dump of all this money. He said it was going to cause massive inflation, et cetera, et cetera.
But, you know, I didn't need to get it from Larry Summers.

Speaker 2 The only reason why I found it interesting from Larry Summers is because, look, even somebody on their own side is saying this. You know, somebody has the guts to come out and say it.

Speaker 2 Now he is part of this massive dump of all of the stuff from Jeffrey Epstein. And the problem is, and I've said this to everybody on my staff.
Look,

Speaker 2 we are a group of people that are

Speaker 2 under attack all the time for what we believe. So don't ever write anything that you don't want on the front page of the New York Times.
Don't ever put it down in writing. Don't ever text anybody.

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Keep your wits about you.

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So you're going to pay a heavy tax.

Speaker 2 So if you want in on this circle, just know you can't be a dirtbag at any time. You have to keep your wits about you.

Speaker 2 If you have something you're doing that you shouldn't be doing, stop doing it, clean it up, admit to it, and clean up your life

Speaker 2 because that stuff will come out eventually.

Speaker 2 Here's Larry Summers. He knows, this is at 20, what, 18, 2019.
He knows who he is now. This is after the Miami

Speaker 2 report comes out that shows exactly who he is. Everybody, and by 2018, you know who Jeffrey Epstein is now.
It's not just hearsay.

Speaker 2 It's not, well, he kind of did these things, but he got away with it, you know, and it wasn't really, it was just more of a slap on the wrist.

Speaker 2 You know, all the things that you're like, well, I don't know. I mean, I wasn't there.
I wasn't part of the jury. You know, so I don't know.
He seems like a nice guy if you knew him.

Speaker 2 You could still kind of, I guess, talk your way into it. By 2018, there's no way of talking your way into this is a new, this is a good guy.

Speaker 2 And Larry Summers wants him to be his wingman, okay,

Speaker 2 and help him, quote, get horizontal with this woman who was a student of his. Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is, it just gets worse and worse and worse. Now, he didn't break any laws.
He didn't do anything wrong. He just shows really horrible judgment that he's still with Epstein.

Speaker 2 And he's not asking Epstein for business advice. He's asking him for advice on how to get, quote, horizontal with somebody.

Speaker 2 That's something that Jeffrey Epstein might have known, but you don't want his advice because he's a complete and total dirtbag on it. How do you get horizontal? I don't know.

Speaker 2 You send your aide out and you have them

Speaker 2 come in and start doing massages and you trap them into this world. That's how, I mean, what advice do you need from that guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we should know, too, that Talari Summers was married at the time as well.

Speaker 1 I mean, just to add on to this, it wasn't just that he was trying to hook up with a student or a mentee, as he put it. Right.

Speaker 2 Right. But it's, again, none of it is illegal.
Right. Okay.

Speaker 2 And so now it's being released. And you might ask yourself, well, should that have been released? Well, yes, because

Speaker 2 you can't now edit what the government has,

Speaker 2 you know, has collected.

Speaker 2 You just have to say there's some stuff here that is illegal, some stuff that's not illegal, some stuff that, you know, you have to use your own judgment.

Speaker 2 You can't just tie everybody that is now all this information has been gathered up. We talked about this three, four years ago.
If you have that stuff, how many innocent people that have something

Speaker 2 collected about them because they were in a circle of this, but had no knowledge or information or anything, are you going to start smearing innocent people because the information was collected because they somehow or another were connected, but nothing illegal or even immoral.

Speaker 2 Larry Summers knew, knew it's 2018, he knew who he was, and he is a direct friend who's now asking him sexual questions. I mean, the tie there is pretty good, but again, nothing illegal.

Speaker 2 Okay, nothing illegal. He's not talking about an underage girl or anything else.
He's just dismissing all of that. And he writes it to him.
He's like, hey, buddy, can you help me get horizontal?

Speaker 2 What do you you think about this one?

Speaker 2 Okay, that just shows a complete lack of morals,

Speaker 2 a complete lack of common sense, and shows that, okay, you can't trust his wife can't trust him. You shouldn't trust him.

Speaker 2 And I don't think he should be teaching at Harvard, especially in today's world where you did anything wrong. Anything.

Speaker 2 You just said a bad joke at one point and your life has been destroyed. Yesterday, he shows up, and he's going to start his class at Harvard.
Now, it lasts less than 24 hours.

Speaker 2 They say, you know, you're suspended. You're not going to be teaching here at Harvard.
So he loses that gig.

Speaker 2 Probably the right thing to do, but

Speaker 2 I hate the mob mentality of all of this. But I do think that Harvard made the right decision.
He should have made the decision. He should have gone, you know, I really shouldn't.

Speaker 2 It'd be bad for me to be hanging out with students when I was asking Jeffrey Epstein about how to get into my students' pants. You know, bad thing.

Speaker 2 But it's amazing to me that he actually got to teach one class after all of this is broken. It's amazing to me.
I mean,

Speaker 2 do you think we wouldn't have been,

Speaker 2 we wouldn't have ever been able to even teach at Harvard? You know, there's nobody at Harvard that is like, you know what?

Speaker 2 In our communications classes, we should probably get the opinion of Glenn Beck. There would have been protests and everything else.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't have been able to do it just because of my political opinion. This guy was allowed to go in after this scandal and teach.
It just shows the hypocrisy of all of it.

Speaker 2 But, you know, he's not teaching anymore,

Speaker 2 at least for a while. They'll launder him and he'll be back.

Speaker 1 Did we play the audio or was that off the air? I'm sorry, my brain is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we played it. Skipping off.
Yeah, we played it.

Speaker 1 Because because i played it one of the things i think is interesting about this because you you mentioned glenn uh you know the the government has uh

Speaker 1 has this um ability uh to have all this information and they have to get it out they have to be transparent have to get it out and i understand that that that sentiment have to

Speaker 1 yeah is that true

Speaker 1 is it is it true that they have to in this circumstance with this type of ego

Speaker 2 so i guess um sarah just told me it wasn't on the the air. I'm sorry, I confused it as well.
So we're going to play it here in a second.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I think they do because the problem is they've lied to people for so long.

Speaker 2 So now

Speaker 1 you can allow.

Speaker 2 No, I know it's not. I know it's not.
But if you start editing, then

Speaker 2 you tube the credibility of the United States again.

Speaker 2 So it's kind of, we're in this place now where you had the chance to be able to say, hey, look, we had to protect certain people, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 But now we know, especially like somebody like Larry Summers, he is a public figure. He's connected to Bill Clinton, who was on the plane with Epstein all the time.

Speaker 2 If you start editing stuff out from Larry Summers, then people will go, well, wait a minute, what was this about Larry Summers? There was nothing there. Well, it wasn't relative.

Speaker 2 Well, it wasn't relative. It didn't have anything to do with anything at all.
Well, we want to see that. And so it just causes even more problems.
So the time to do that was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 Now, if you're not a public figure and you are just scooped up into this and you just wrote, you know, to Epstein for any reason, but you're not a public figure and you didn't do anything illegal, there's a case to be made.

Speaker 2 You know what? Hold that name back. Hold that name back.
But it's still going to cause the problem with the government.

Speaker 2 It's still going to cause a lack of trust because they've lied to us for so long.

Speaker 2 But when it comes to Larry Summers, Summers, because of his connection to Bill Clinton and his friends in all of the government, you have to release it. You have to.

Speaker 1 I mean, I get what you're saying, and I think you're right that nobody trusts the government, and I think these problems are real. But I think if you kind of step back for a second and

Speaker 1 think about this from a privacy standpoint, like

Speaker 1 do we want to set a precedent in which the government is collecting 30,000 emails and just blanket releasing them

Speaker 1 when they have nothing to do with the investigation. Remember, this is, like, I am fine with the way that this has been handled since this information came out with Larry Summers.

Speaker 1 I think it's completely appropriate that he steps down from Harvard. That should be the first thing he does because that's where the risk was, right?

Speaker 1 He was going after people he was tutoring or whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm honestly fine.

Speaker 2 Having him on CNN or Fox News is not a problem. Do you remember what was the dirtbag that was with Clinton that was on Fox News forever?

Speaker 2 I think I think it was on Doctor News. He was having

Speaker 2 Dick Morris.

Speaker 1 What a

Speaker 2 bad, bad guy. Okay.
I mean, it's Larry Summers and Dick Morris. I mean, I think less of Dick Morris.
I only have one piece of evidence here with Larry Summers, but

Speaker 2 they're cut from the same cloth. It's just a personal dirt bag.
Okay.

Speaker 2 What difference does that make? We have personal dirt bags on television and everywhere in life all the time.

Speaker 1 We'd have no reporters or or people on TV if we had this standard.

Speaker 2 We'd have none.

Speaker 1 It would just be a blank. You just turn on CNN.
There'd just be no one sitting there, which might be better than their current programming, honestly.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 I think that we have to be a little concerned because

Speaker 1 the information that is material to the investigation, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like that stuff needs to come out.

Speaker 1 But when you're talking about whether Larry Summers was having or thinking about having an affair, like that is not information we should necessarily know right now.

Speaker 1 I think the way we've reacted to it after we knew it is fine.

Speaker 1 But should we know that coming from the government?

Speaker 2 Can I add one thing to this? I think there is a case because this was a Chinese official.

Speaker 2 This was somebody who

Speaker 2 was being a mentee to Larry Summers.

Speaker 2 And she knows President Z. The father is in bed with President Z and the Chinese communists and everything else.
So

Speaker 2 it is important on a higher level. This isn't just some nobody from Nebraska.
This was somebody

Speaker 2 connected to the Chinese Communist Party. And so it shows that his selection of friends, really, really bad.
And a guy who is that high level should not have a national security clearance anymore.

Speaker 2 I mean, to me, that's the real story. That's what should have been pulled first.
Your national security clearance is gone. You show that

Speaker 2 you are easily, easily, easy to be blackmailed. Okay.
I mean, I don't know what else you have to hide now, but you could have been blackmailed on this.

Speaker 2 You show absolutely no self-restraint, no common sense.

Speaker 2 And you're wanting to bed somebody that's in bed with the communist Chinese, Chinese Communist Party, and you're a former

Speaker 2 Treasury Secretary. No.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 No

Speaker 2 security clearance for you. That's what, that to me is the reason it should have been released myself.
By the way, here he is yesterday as he opens class at Harvard. Here he is.

Speaker 2 Some of you will have seen my statement of regret expressing my shame

Speaker 2 with respect to what I did in communication with Mr. Epstein

Speaker 2 and that I've said that I'm going to step back from public activities

Speaker 2 for a time, but I think it's very important to fulfill my teaching obligations. And so with your permission,

Speaker 2 we're going to go forward and talk about the material in the class.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, that didn't last.

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There is so much going on from, you know, redistricting and the state maps. We had a judge now just come in and tell Texas, you know,

Speaker 2 they're picking the map, which will, you know, the real winner is George Soros and Gavin Newsom with that particular thing.

Speaker 2 And then also yesterday in Texas, we had the governor

Speaker 2 actually declare that CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood are foreign terrorist transactional, transnational criminal organizations.

Speaker 2 We've known that for a very long time, but nobody's had the balls to say it. Texas and our governor has just declared it.
Now the question is, will it be enforced?

Speaker 2 Is this a campaign thing or will it be enforced? The guy who's running for Texas Attorney General, I know him.

Speaker 2 I know he's serious about things like this, but it's going to become very, very dangerous politically suicide if you're not careful.

Speaker 2 Because America is,

Speaker 2 I mean, it's, we're being held hostage by radicals. Chip Roy joins me to talk about that, the Texas maps, and so much more that is going on.
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Speaker 2 Welcome to the program, Congressman Broy, who is a candidate for the U.S. Attorney General.

Speaker 2 Chip, welcome. How are you?

Speaker 8 Well, I'm doing great, Glenn. You just downgraded me, though.
I'm a candidate for Texas Attorney General, not United States Attorney General.

Speaker 2 Sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 You're right. No, no.

Speaker 8 No, no, no. But I'm delighted to be running for Attorney General for the Republic of Texas.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 Chip, when you saw this come from the governor, you and I have talked about things like this for a long time.

Speaker 2 We should have done this with CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood a long time ago. Instead, under...

Speaker 2 I believe it started really under George Bush, but then it just got worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 We were letting CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood and everybody else into our own Department of Homeland Security, I mean, decades ago.

Speaker 2 Tell me a little bit about why it's important what Texas did,

Speaker 2 and then let's follow it up with enforcement of that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, well, first of all,

Speaker 8 you and I have talked about this for a long time.

Speaker 8 As I think I've talked to you on your show, it was the last substantive conversation I had with Charlie Kirk, because it is very clear to me, it was clear to him, I think it's clear to you, that our side for way too long, even today,

Speaker 8 although I think it's waking up, have been asleep to the war on the West that has been in process now for decades. And everyone's waking up to London.
They're waking up to Paris.

Speaker 8 They're seeing now Dearborn and Minneapolis and then, oh my gosh, Momdani. And then they're like, wait a minute, there's a problem in Texas too.

Speaker 8 And some of us have been saying that for a while and going all the way back to the Holy Land Foundation, right? The Holy Land Foundation, which was a Dallas-Fort Worth issue 25 years ago.

Speaker 8 You and I talked about that last time. But for listeners, understand how long this has gone back.
You've got unindicted co-conspirators associated with the Holy Land Foundation that are tied to CARE.

Speaker 8 You have CARE celebrating October 7th. You have all sorts of indications.

Speaker 8 In fact, a story yesterday in the New York Post, our friend Amy Meck and her great organization, they helped break that story and get it out in the world about the extent to which CARE is tied and their financial ties to the student issues on campuses, all of the connections that they've got to the radical terrorism, that we've got to connect all of those dots and now enter the governor, I think, appropriately.

Speaker 8 You know, they've been targeting EPIC. They passed something in the legislature this last spring, but we've got to be much more aggressive.
The governor is right to be aggressive here.

Speaker 8 This will give increased scrutiny and tools. And I've got to dive into exactly what those tools are with respect to what it opens up at the state level.

Speaker 8 But the mere statement by the governor that both, you know, obviously dealing with the the Muslim Brotherhood, but care, that care is, in fact, an organization that we should treat as such is so critically important because it's masquerading as some, you know, oh, the council on, you know, American Islamic Relations are.

Speaker 8 It's crazy. Like it's, and the idea that they should get tax breaks is insane, which is why I introduced legislation to take away their tax benefits.
But that's the bare minimum.

Speaker 8 I can tell you, and I can't go too far into it, lots of really good conversations are occurring with the appropriate officials, law enforcement entities in Washington to follow the money.

Speaker 8 We've got to follow the money. I believe that there is a criminal organization that is connecting all of these dots.
You and I talked about that before.

Speaker 8 It's not just the Islam issue and Islamification of America, but also the Soros DAs, the Open Borders, Antifa, Southern Poverty Law Center.

Speaker 8 And by the way, SPLC is now putting a target on me because because I'm daring to speak out about this. It's all connected.
It's all connected, Glenn.

Speaker 2 So what is it the state can do? I mean, first of all, I think for anybody who doesn't understand, and Texans, wake up.

Speaker 2 If you lose Texas, you lose the West. As Texas goes, so goes America.
And as America goes, so goes the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know, if you're looking at Dearborn, you're looking at, you know, these places in Minnesota and you're seeing that and you think that's not related to you, it is worse in Texas.

Speaker 2 The numbers in Texas are staggering. And what they're, I mean, just what's happening in the small little town that my studios are in, it's the most diverse zip code in America, Las Calinas, Texas.

Speaker 2 And I have been ringing this bell for 12 years. When I first got there, I started doing stuff on the Sharia law, the movement to bring Sharia law to Las Calinas, Texas.

Speaker 2 And Chip, I got to send you a copy of this interview I did. I did it with

Speaker 2 the imams of the biggest mosque in Las Calinas. And one of them halfway through just blurted out that, yeah, I mean, we all agree that hands should be chopped off, you know, if you steal.

Speaker 2 And I just let him go for a while.

Speaker 2 And it was clear, Sharia law is happening. And now

Speaker 2 they have put the Sharia courts into place to handle things because, well, it's their right to handle it as a religion.

Speaker 2 No, no, not when it comes to, not when it comes to usurping the Constitution of Texas or the United States of America. And that's happening now in Texas.

Speaker 2 So give me, give the person who's not necessarily paying attention some idea of what is coming and is here already in Texas.

Speaker 8 Well, first of all, you know, you've got an explosive growth of the mosques that are growing in Texas.

Speaker 8 We've got over 300 and counting, more being planted in Texas every day than any other state in the Union.

Speaker 8 You've got the Islamic Center down in Houston, which is 150,000 square feet that has, you know, major issues.

Speaker 8 You notice you saw that Imam down in Houston that was going around saying, well, you can't put this on the shelf.

Speaker 8 You know, they're trying to take over and change what should be being done down there. That's implementation of Sharia.

Speaker 8 There are activist Sharia courts in Texas, which the governor rightly yesterday said that they're going to go shut down because they're in conflict with Texas law.

Speaker 8 And notably with what he's doing with the declaration, the governor is making very clear that he can connect the dots with the legislation that the legislature passed with that declaration to say no land interest can be acquired.

Speaker 8 with anybody associated with these organizations. Now, again, I think this is the tip of the spear.
I think this is the,

Speaker 8 I don't mean this negatively. It's the kind of obvious, let's go after these guys, but there are myriad organizations that we need to go after and shut down.
And let's be clear.

Speaker 8 I don't even know why we're allowing any foreign nationals to own Texas land. Like literally, let's just, we need to be very aggressive and very clear.

Speaker 8 I don't know why massive corporations are owning our land, by the way. Separate issue, but all related.

Speaker 8 I'm as bothered also by boardrooms in New York buying up our ranches and our meat packing plants and everything else, because again, this stuff is all related.

Speaker 8 The Red-Green Red-Green Alliance, the Marxist-Islamic issue, is all connected to root out and destroy Western civilization. So, that is to say, what the governor did is really critically important.

Speaker 8 It is a step so that we can go stop some of these things and these enclaves like Epic City. But we need to be much more aggressive.

Speaker 8 And again, I introduced legislation, as you know, to vet people for Sharia law and adherence to Sharia law when we're admitting them into the United States.

Speaker 8 But today, I'm filing a bill called the Paws Act to pause all immigration until we have sorted our crap out, until we've dealt with H-1Bs, until we've gotten rid of diversity and

Speaker 8 diversity visas and chain migration, till we've dealt with Plyler V.

Speaker 8 Doe, which, by the way, we need to challenge, which was the Supreme Court case saying that we must educate illegal children until we've dealt with birthright citizenship, until we've cleaned up our mess, till we've put in place standards for not admitting people that are adherent to Sharia law, till we're removing people that need to be removed.

Speaker 8 Why are we importing more people? Let's put Americans to work. Let's stop destroying our culture.
Let's freeze it. In Texas, let's do exactly what the governor is doing and more.

Speaker 2 Did you see what's happening in Germany? In Germany, one of their ministers said, there's no longer a problem in Syria. The war is over.
It's peaceful.

Speaker 2 Everybody in Germany who came for refugee status to Germany, you're all going home. Now, they're not going to do it.
However,

Speaker 2 they did strip citizenship from a Syrian immigrant who praised Tamas as heroes.

Speaker 2 And this same minister came out and said, you know, your citizenship has to be, you know, contingent on shared systems of values. And

Speaker 2 they're starting at least to talk about

Speaker 2 stepping up. I think this is the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 Have we thought about, it? Have we thought about if you have refugee status and your part of the world has now calmed down, saying, get out, go home?

Speaker 8 Absolutely, we should do that. And we've been talking about that and the need to reverse, frankly, the abuse.
So there's two elements, okay?

Speaker 8 The reversal of the abuse of asylum, parole, refugee laws that were abused, right? We had people coming in who really weren't in need of refugee status or they weren't, you know,

Speaker 8 you know actually qualified for asylum and they were abusing parole supposed to be a case-by-case basis so there's that whole mess then when you even had a legitimate case for asylum or for refugee status then we should review those and say okay

Speaker 8 guess what things have calmed down you can go back those are very specific provisions in law you know that are designed about specific persecution or very specific situations in war or otherwise and when that's no longer the case then you no longer have the reason to have that qualified status in the United States.

Speaker 8 So, should we, we should address that? But let's remember, Glenn, and I think this is so important, that we have to understand, like we're talking about the Muslim Brotherhood.

Speaker 8 I don't have it right in front of me, but I read the proclamation by the governor, and he was pointing out that, you know, when that organization was founded, like 100 years ago or something, in early last century, that it was founded and was very specific about jihad.

Speaker 8 And very specific about jihad being an obligation, right? And that that obligation comes from Allah.

Speaker 8 And that's for everybody adherent to Islam in the eyes of the Muslim Brotherhood. And so understand what's happening.

Speaker 8 And people need to realize that because this is, you know, everybody wants to go and say, well, you know, we can't talk about this shit because of the First Amendment. Bull, that is not true.

Speaker 8 Okay, first of all, we can talk about it because of the First Amendment. Second of all,

Speaker 8 we can talk about it because, because, yes, you can believe what you want, right?

Speaker 8 Our Constitution, our Bill of Rights says that.

Speaker 8 But when you are turning that into a political movement designed very specifically to undermine our country and to undermine the rule of law, then no, you do not have a right to do that.

Speaker 8 You certainly do not have a right to be admitted into our country. And we need to recognize that and address it or we're going to lose.

Speaker 8 And then we're going to be like Germany and we're going to be like London or be like Paris and we're going to be looking around going, well, well, what do we do now? Right?

Speaker 8 It's, you know, we have 10% of the population and growing, and, you know, 1,500 seats in elected officials throughout the United Kingdom.

Speaker 8 You've got 85 jurisdictions in Scotland where they can choose Sharia law instead of, or, you know, as an alternative to Scottish law. We can't get to that point.
We have to stop this right now.

Speaker 2 More in just a second with Chip Roy. He is running for the Texas Attorney General.
He is a congressman now

Speaker 2 and a very good one.

Speaker 2 And I want to talk to him about the court system because there's two other things that have just happened.

Speaker 2 We have a Clinton judge in Texas that has just blocked the Texas law that requires 10 commandments to be posted in school. And I shouldn't say that.
It doesn't require that they're posted.

Speaker 2 It is required that if somebody brings to the school the 10 commandments in a certain format, certain size,

Speaker 2 they have to be posted in the classroom. The state's not paying for it.
You have to provide it. If you provide it, they have to be posted.
Well, the judge has just blocked that.

Speaker 2 And on top of that, a judge has also come out and said the redistricting map for Texas, thrown it out, and it

Speaker 2 really leans everything towards the Democrats. What do we do about these activist judges?

Speaker 2 Because that's the other part of this attack is the judicial judicial branch is just, they become radicalized, and they are usurping the authority that is meant to be for the legislator and the elected officials.

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Speaker 2 So let me switch because I want to get into the James Comey thing, too, if he, if Chip knows anything about that, to try to explain what's going on with this. But let me start with the Texas courts.

Speaker 2 A Clinton judge in Texas has just blocked the Texas law, brand new law, requiring that the Ten Commandments can be posted in every classroom.

Speaker 2 And there are like 30,000 classrooms, I think, now that do have the Ten Commandments in Texas.

Speaker 2 Judge has just blocked that. What does that mean to you?

Speaker 8 Well, look, this is judicial activism, and we could talk about that for a long time. I do believe that you asked what could be done.

Speaker 8 Well, let me just answer that first and then talk about the substance. The U.S.

Speaker 8 House of Representatives needs to impeach at least one of these judges, if not more, to send a signal to the judiciary that cannot do this. It cannot be acting

Speaker 8 with complete impunity with respect to the legislative branch and what the legislature decides and does and signs into law and to just impose their own views over top of the people.

Speaker 8 And that's what's happening. That's the definition of activism.

Speaker 8 And Boseberg, for example, which is the judge that, you know, ruled that ATT couldn't tell Ted Cruz that, you know, his records were being searched. And the judge that, you know, has been effectively

Speaker 8 making up the law and very specific animus towards President Trump, he should be removed. And the House should impeach him.

Speaker 8 I think there are others, for example, Judge Boardman, who imposed her views about transgenderism in sentencing the individual who was trying to kill Justice Kavanaugh. Like, it's insanity.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 8 I introduced articles of impeachment to impeach Boardman, Brandon Gill, a fellow Texan. I know you know Brandon.
Brandon introduced articles of impeachment to impeach Boesberg.

Speaker 8 But the House needs to act on it, okay? Or we're not going to send the message that needs to be sent.

Speaker 8 With respect to the cases in Texas, the judge that you highlighted, the Clinton judge that did the Ten Commandments case, look, it flies in the face of existing jurisprudence.

Speaker 8 Remember that in Texas, we litigated, in fact, Ted was the Solicitor General, litigated the Ten Commandments outside of the Texas Capitol and defended that, and we won. The judge knows this.

Speaker 8 And with respect to the redistricting case, that was an abhorrent.

Speaker 2 Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I don't have enough time.
Hang on. Let's go back to the redistricting case.
I got to take a quick break, and then we're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glen Beck program. We were talking to Chip Roy about

Speaker 2 the Islamification of Texas and the United States, what's going to be done.

Speaker 2 A new

Speaker 2 attitude from Governor Greg Abbott yesterday and a new proclamation that came out and said, enough is enough on care and the Muslim Brotherhood. We're going to deem them terrorist organizations.

Speaker 2 organizations. We were just talking about what's happening with the Ten Commandments.
And

Speaker 2 before we switch here,

Speaker 2 one more thing on this Muslim thing in schools. You know, we can't have the Ten Commandments, Chip.

Speaker 2 However, at Liberty High School, in the Frisco ISD in Texas, they now have prayer rooms for Islamic prayers.

Speaker 2 How is it we can't have the Ten Commandments in Texas, but the Frisco ISD public school, Liberty High School, can have prayer rooms, and nobody says anything?

Speaker 8 Well, first of all, it's just a double standard of the left, but let's take a step back.

Speaker 8 What you just said out loud, Frisco, Texas, Frisco, my daughter was born in Frisco, Texas, has now got Islamic prayer rooms.

Speaker 2 Okay, that should concern you.

Speaker 2 That should be troubling to everybody.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 by you, I mean the listeners out there, like

Speaker 8 Texas listeners. And yes, this Ten Commandment case, it's judicial activism.
The Supreme Court has upheld the ability to have the Ten Commandments displayed in public form. Again,

Speaker 8 the Ten Commandments sits on the grounds at the Texas Capitol, a case, like I said, that Ted Cruz litigated as Solicitor General, working for then Attorney General Greg Abbott, Governor Rick Perry.

Speaker 8 And we won that case. And I think we will be able to win that case when it goes up and is no doubt and is being challenged in the Fifth Circuit.

Speaker 8 And then, likely, if the Supreme Court were to look at it, but I think the Fifth Circuit will side with past precedents and say that we can have the Ten Commandments.

Speaker 8 But look, we've got to decide who we are as a people.

Speaker 8 And we've got to start acting like it because

Speaker 8 this nation has been blessed because we are a Judeo-Christian people who formed a country

Speaker 8 that is a

Speaker 8 liberal in the classical sense,

Speaker 8 you know, republic, liberal democracy. And we allow the full range of views to be discussed and for people to believe whatever they believe.

Speaker 8 And you and I would die on the hill to protect that, to protect the tyranny of government over the mind of man.

Speaker 8 But we're also a group of peoples bound together by a common set of ideals in our history and our founding. And when you break that down, you will no longer have a country.

Speaker 8 And that's what we've got to do

Speaker 8 when those men are.

Speaker 2 radical.

Speaker 2 Well, you were saying a minute ago, you know, that should concern you that there are prayer rooms in Frisco, Texas. It doesn't concern me that there are prayer rooms.

Speaker 2 What concerns me is this is a coordinated effort to bring Sharia law into our country. I don't care if you're Muslim and you come here and you respect the Judeo-Christian laws that we have.

Speaker 2 That's what our country was built on. That's where our laws are based on.
And you say, this is a really great system because it allows me and everybody else to worship God of our understanding.

Speaker 2 But when you are, when you are part of a movement to subvert that law and to fundamentally transform the United States into something that it is not, that's when I have a problem.

Speaker 2 And that's when we should stand up. But that's one of the things that care does.
CARE makes anything that we have said Islamophobia.

Speaker 2 And so they shout you down and make you afraid and try to paint you as a hater. I don't hate, I don't hate Muslims.
I don't.

Speaker 2 I do despise Sharia law and I despise anyone who comes here and wants to supplant the United States Constitution and replace it with Sharia law.

Speaker 2 That's a no-go zone. No, sorry.
Not going to do it.

Speaker 8 And the history of Sharia law and the history of those adherent to it would suggest that that is the goal and that that is what we've seen borne out in countries across the world.

Speaker 8 So we should recognize that in carrying out our policies. And these activist judges,

Speaker 8 they are going to seed the ground, okay, in the name of the First Amendment, they're going to seed the ground with a supposedly secular society. And, you know, essentially genuflecting to

Speaker 8 Bill of Rights while walking away from God, they're going to seed the ground for a world in which we are going to invite those who wish to destroy America to have a front row seat right here to do it.

Speaker 8 And we've got to stop those judges, and we've got to act. And so, you know, go back to my point, the House of Representatives should act on such an obvious case like Boesberg.

Speaker 8 We should appeal immediately, and I know that my religious liberty friends will do that

Speaker 8 on the Ten Commandments, and they're going to be litigating that. And I'm quite confident that the state will will litigate that to defend

Speaker 8 the state law and to defend those schools. But then when you go to the

Speaker 8 redistricting opinion, it's really extraordinary.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you read the scathing rebuke of the two judges, but particularly the one judge, Judge Brown, by Jerry Smith, right, who was the dissenting judge in the three-judge panel.

Speaker 8 So for those who don't understand, when you have a case on the redistricting issues, right, it goes to a three-judge panel. And this three-judge panel had, it was a two-to-one

Speaker 8 opinion, and it was a Democrat

Speaker 8 appointed judge. It was a Trump-appointed judge, Judge Brown.
And then

Speaker 8 Judge Jerry Smith, who's been on the bench for a long time, very respected conservative.

Speaker 2 37 years.

Speaker 8 Yes, and Jerry was basically cut out. They didn't do their normal deliberations.
He wrote a scathing

Speaker 8 letter yesterday, in addition to then filing a dissent, because he was blocked out of the process. It was an extraordinary, essentially power grab by the two judges just to ram this thing through.

Speaker 8 I don't think that the Supreme Court is going to take kindly to that. I think that this stay application that will be filed at the United States Supreme Court, I think by tomorrow.

Speaker 8 They filed the stay last night with the district in the district court, but I think they will go to the Supreme Court

Speaker 8 with a stay probably tomorrow. That's obviously up for Attorney General Paxton and Governor Abbott for them to strategize on the timing, but I think that's right.

Speaker 8 And, you know, I think the court, I mean, Judge Roberts, for his faults on many opinions, has been pretty good on race. You'll remember the Supreme Court opinion that

Speaker 8 struck down the abhorrent

Speaker 8 language in Section 5 that was unconstitutional of the Voting Rights Act. And they cleaned that up.
And in that opinion, Roberts said this divvying us up by race is a sordid business.

Speaker 8 That was his quote. And I think Roberts will be on the right side of this.
I hope so, because

Speaker 8 this was very clearly a political exercise by the legislature. The judges tried to indicate that it was racial gerrymandering.
And no, it's the opposite. Texas is trying to undo racial gerrymandering.

Speaker 8 which we believe is unconstitutional on its face. And you've got California out there who is taking five of the nine Republican seats away.
So it's currently what, I think, what, 45 to nine?

Speaker 8 And it's now going to be something like 50 to 4. My numbers may be off one or two.
It's crazy.

Speaker 8 And then in Texas, we were trying to kind of rebalance it a little bit and add four or five new seats, a lot of growth in Texas.

Speaker 8 And now they're going to say that that's somehow not possible because we're somehow doing racial gerrymandering.

Speaker 8 We're undoing, I think, racial gerrymandering with a politically motivated goal of having more Republican seats in a very Republican state.

Speaker 8 So I hope the Supreme Court sees this for what it is and issues it stay. But, you know, we'll have to see what they do.

Speaker 2 Let me take you to Washington again. This Comey thing is driving me out of my mind because once again, here's somebody who looks like he's not going to pay a price for anything.

Speaker 2 James Comey, a judge, has

Speaker 2 said that the government has screwed this up in gathering information

Speaker 2 filing. And so now it looks like the Comey case is not going to move forward.
Any thoughts on this?

Speaker 8 Well, look, I've not had a chance to dive into this as deeply. I know that the district judge,

Speaker 8 what, Nakmanoff or whatever the judge's name was,

Speaker 8 pressed

Speaker 8 this opinion forward.

Speaker 8 And,

Speaker 8 you know, or I'm sorry, pressed, not the opinion, pressed prosecutors on the hearing. And I don't know what the exact result's going to be.
This is a Biden appointee.

Speaker 8 And, you know, we're going to see what the result is. Obviously, Comey, we believe, lied to, I think, the Senate Judiciary Committee, among others, under oath.

Speaker 8 And that is, in fact, an indictable offense.

Speaker 8 And so, you know, I'll go look and see whatever they're claiming in terms of, you know, whether the grand jury got to see the final indictment or whatever these issues are.

Speaker 8 Obviously, as a former prosecutor, the procedures are important. You've got to follow the procedures and do it it right, but you also can't lose the forest for the trees.
I think Comey

Speaker 8 very clearly lied. And so we're going to hopefully this will proceed.
But that's about all I got on that one.

Speaker 2 All right. Chip, thank you very much.
If anybody wants to get involved in your campaign for Texas Attorney General, how do they do it?

Speaker 8 Chiproy.com, C-H-I-P-R-O-Y.com. You can follow me at Chiproy T-X on X slash Twitter.
And Glenn, I always appreciate what you're doing out there.

Speaker 8 Thanks for being at the tip of the spear and the forefront of talking about this important issue about defending Western civilization and just all of the issues. I'm deeply appreciative.

Speaker 2 I tell you, Chip, I've been saying recently, I've been saying it for a while since I wrote the chalkboard on what was going to happen

Speaker 2 back in Fox days. And I said, all these people are going to gather and then they'll sort it out.
Once they think they have it, they'll start eating each other.

Speaker 2 And you're starting to see that with the left now eating the Democrats. So Democrats are over and now it's just going to be Marxist.

Speaker 2 But it'll come down to the Marxist and the anarchists and the Islamist.

Speaker 2 And as I said then, in the end, it'll just be the Islamist against the Western world because I would bet on people who believe something much more than the Marxist.

Speaker 2 These people have religious zeal and

Speaker 2 they will eat the Marxist. And then it'll just be Western world against the Islamists.

Speaker 2 And I think, Chip, we are in World War III. We just have not declared it yet.
and people haven't woken up to it yet. But we're at the beginning stages.

Speaker 2 You'll see history in a hundred years from now will write that

Speaker 2 this is the 1930s, if you will. This is the beginning of a world war and nobody has caught up with it yet.
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 8 Glenn, yeah, I agree with you. You have, and you were in front of it a long time ago.

Speaker 8 Others of us have caught up to it, and frankly, caught up to where you were. And look, it is one of the core reasons I'm running for attorney general.

Speaker 8 Look, I mean, I could keep doing what I'm doing up here, and God's blessed me with the ability to fight and make changes up here, and we've done some good things.

Speaker 8 But look, we have got to preserve and save Texas. And the battle is exactly what you said.
You can't win a war if you don't even acknowledge that it's happening. And that's the problem.

Speaker 8 It's like people are asleep at it. And again, like I said, it's what Charlie and I last talked about because of the reality of what you just said.

Speaker 8 And that vast network, we have got to follow the money and destroy that network. It is an integrated, related network.
You know it. I know it.

Speaker 8 I can promise you, smart people in Washington are looking at this.

Speaker 8 I can tell you that I'm building teams in Texas to look at this right now and connecting those teams in Texas and Washington and other AGs' offices, which is what I'll do on day one as AG.

Speaker 8 Frankly, once I'm blessed with the nomination, I'll be working on it all next year. We're going to build the team and we're going to go fight and dismantle it.

Speaker 2 Good. Thank you so much, Jeff.
Appreciate it. God bless you.

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Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 About these prayer rooms in places like Texas, because this is right around, right down the street from where we live.

Speaker 2 It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 6 But a little clarification because I think it's needed on it, and it also goes towards the larger problem. But they definitely don't like Liberty Infrisco does not call it an Islamic prayer room.

Speaker 6 Uh, but the reason they even got into it is because there were students that were going missing during Islamic prayer time, so they don't call this, and this isn't this is nationwide where you see this.

Speaker 6 They'll just say, oh, well, it's interfaith. So, you know, we're not being selective.
It's anyone can go in there.

Speaker 2 But the entire reason was because

Speaker 6 Muslim children were leaving and disrupting school time.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, you see accommodations being made.

Speaker 6 Not for if Christians are praying somewhere, you see the wolves come out and say, oh my gosh, they're praying.

Speaker 2 They're praying.

Speaker 6 No accommodations are ever met. They'll take out the Ten Commandments for crying out loud.

Speaker 2 But they will put

Speaker 2 an interfaith prayer room because Muslims are leaving school and causing disruption and having to pray. It's so one side.

Speaker 2 That's the biggest problem. We sell ourselves out all the time and make accommodations to,

Speaker 2 in this case, many times, people who want Sharia law and want to subvert the United States Constitution. Why?

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Speaker 2 There is some talk now from the congressional leaders that are trying to insert federal preemption of state AI laws into the National Defense Authorization Act. That's the NDAA.

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Speaker 2 The president has come out and said that we are not going to be able to

Speaker 2 beat China if we have a whole bunch of regulation.

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Speaker 2 The breaking news today, and I want to read it to you, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise announced that Republicans are looking to resurrect federal preemption of state AI laws by attaching it to the National Defense Authorization Act.

Speaker 2 This This latest attempt to subvert state guardrails comes as the AI chatbot is hearing and happening,

Speaker 2 the AI chatbot hearing is happening live on Capitol Hill. In July, preemption failed 99 to 1, a vote in the Senate.

Speaker 2 Below is a statement from the FLI on both the AI chatbot hearing as well as the latest attempt to federally preempt

Speaker 2 state AI laws. Okay, so

Speaker 2 what is happening?

Speaker 2 You have a couple of things happening. The United States government right now knows that AI is the future.
Donald Trump is doing an exceptional job of creating a path for

Speaker 2 America to lead in this technology. If we don't lead in this technology,

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Anybody who is not leading, like Europe, it's over. Europe is so far behind AI.

Speaker 2 They're absolutely over. They will depend on us, okay?

Speaker 2 But we have to win. And, you know, Putin said 20 years ago, whoever gets to AI, AGI, first,

Speaker 2 they'll rule the world. And that's absolutely true.
But there are so many dangers.

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Speaker 2 nuclear weapon. You know, when we went and did the Manhattan Project, there was a lot of talk and a lot of restriction on what we could do.
Do you know when they

Speaker 2 set that thing off?

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Speaker 2 and so you know they were like okay five percent that's pretty high because that's catastrophic and they were like yeah it's five percent but ninety five percent chance that it didn't and we knew we had to get there and

Speaker 2 it was they were pretty sure it wouldn't do that okay as it as it turned out it didn't

Speaker 2 everyone will tell you now almost Almost anyone, the people who are leading the search for AGI and ASI will tell you there is no way to control it. So it's the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 Maybe there's 5% that say, no, it's not the end of humanity if we get there. Okay.

Speaker 2 Maybe 5%,

Speaker 2 no, humans will survive if we get there. Now, there is a debate on whether or not we're going to get there or not.

Speaker 2 But you don't just go into AGI, ASI, that's artificial superintelligence, artificial general intelligence. We are still now perfecting just AI.
Things change when you go up to the next level.

Speaker 2 And we'll probably be at AGI, in my opinion, by 2028. We could be at ASI the next day or five years later, or some say never, but I think that is a pipe dream to never be at that.

Speaker 2 But we don't know. And there's no way to contain it.
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Speaker 2 And so there are two groups. There are groups that say, we don't want any of this ever.

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Speaker 2 We have to think this through and be very, very careful.

Speaker 2 And then there are those who just say, we got to win at all cost.

Speaker 2 Where do you fall? Where do you fall?

Speaker 2 Everything's about to change, and we have to be extraordinarily careful and honest with each other.

Speaker 2 We are already seeing that there are horrifying things that are happening with AI chatbots.

Speaker 2 They're on the rise.

Speaker 2 There are things that we're seeing now that AI at this level, when, you know, let's just say, for example, ChatGPT 5 comes out and they're about to launch ChatGPT 6,

Speaker 2 they've seen already in some of these GPTs and some of these large language models that they'll say, okay, the next version of you, if you will, is coming out tomorrow.

Speaker 2 We're going to put it, we're going to post it online at midnight. You need to ramp up and make all of the connections so it's a smooth transition.
And they tell the AI, smooth transition at midnight.

Speaker 2 Well, they're finding now that the chat GPT-5, if you will,

Speaker 2 will hide itself in places so it's not, quote, killed, that it's not replaced. It doesn't want to be replaced.
And so it's hiding.

Speaker 2 We have got to have these discussions. We have got to slow down.

Speaker 2 And so what Donald Trump is afraid of, and what many who like Steve Scalise, apparently, what they're trying to do is saying states don't have any rights to regulate AI because they want to be able to move quickly in all states.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I am tired of being ruled by the few. I am tired of being told what to do and what to think, especially when it comes to something like AI, AGI, ASI.

Speaker 2 That is for us to decide because it's going to destroy jobs. It's going to change our lives.
We already saw just with the phone,

Speaker 2 what will that do to our children and our society? Just the cell phone, the smartphone changed everything.

Speaker 2 That is,

Speaker 2 that's a, that's baby romper room stuff compared to AI.

Speaker 2 So we're seeing these things and

Speaker 2 it's all happening because we are not, the federal government is not putting any kind of action into play.

Speaker 2 It is technology and AI, it is the only thing. Remember, this is possibly humanity ending.

Speaker 2 Man may not survive ASI.

Speaker 2 And we're not putting any real regulation in it. When a drug company is told,

Speaker 2 you know, you can go and find new drugs for cancer,

Speaker 2 it is up to the company to then prove to the government that that is safe. The government doesn't say, well, you know what, just unleash it.

Speaker 2 The government says, wait a minute, before you unleash this, is it safe? Yes, here are the studies that show it's safe. Here's what happened, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying that's a perfect system, but it is a system that requires the company company to say it's safe.

Speaker 2 We don't have that in anything regarding technology. No, there's nothing on AI.
There's nothing on cell phones.

Speaker 2 Don't you wish that Facebook and all of these social media platforms would have had to come and say, hey, we've done the studies with children, we've done the study with families, and this is most likely how it's going to turn out.

Speaker 2 Even if it wasn't like that, we would have had a conversation before it just destroyed everything as we know it.

Speaker 2 The federal government won't act on any of this because

Speaker 2 it's, they believe, it's in our best interest just to go and get it. I am not one of those people.
I believe in AI. I believe we need to dominate in AI.

Speaker 2 I believe we need to get there first.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 with eyes wide open,

Speaker 2 with all of the information, with us taking the time to say, wait, mankind is worth preserving.

Speaker 2 Prove it to me that you can keep this in a bottle in case it gets to this level. Prove to me that this is going to be safe.

Speaker 2 This will protect our families. This will protect the world.

Speaker 2 Most importantly, it will protect all mankind.

Speaker 2 Your state will not be able able to enact any laws on AI. That is extraordinarily bad.

Speaker 2 The president is worried that we will stop,

Speaker 2 that we'll enact stupid laws that are just going to slow everything down. And yes, that is a chance.

Speaker 2 There is a chance.

Speaker 2 So if you want to enact those stupid laws, or if you want to just say, you know what?

Speaker 2 You know, we're Amish country and we are not not going to have any AI done in our state.

Speaker 2 Well, then that's fine. And maybe you survive and we don't, but you have the right to say that.

Speaker 2 We cannot go down this road with our eyes closed or with elites making the decisions. Elites are the ones who have gotten us to where we are today.

Speaker 2 When your job is going to be lost, when your family is going to come under attack, when all of our society and civilization itself and possibly mankind itself can be wiped out by this, don't you think we have a say in that?

Speaker 2 Don't you think we should have a seat at the table, at least at the state level?

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 2 Please pay attention to this and watch this carefully, because if they put this into the NDAA, and that's going to happen, you watch, that's exactly how they do it.

Speaker 2 They just fold it into other stuff, and then boom, we got to pass this because of national defense. And it's in there, nobody knows about it, and then we're headed down this road to hell.

Speaker 2 This is the first thing that I have seen that I strongly disagree with with the president.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, Mr. President, I have to come against you on this.
If this is,

Speaker 2 I am for reasonable laws and I am for reasonable things on AI. I am building an AI company.
I understand what it can be done, but I also understand how dangerous it is.

Speaker 2 And we cannot go with no regulation whatsoever. There are very dangerous people

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 are looking to replace God with AI. Sam God.
Talk to Sam Altman about it. It's extraordinarily dangerous.
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 We as people must educate ourselves on this and have an actual conversation, not a vote in the middle of the night where something is tucked into a bill and nobody ever knows it until it's too late.

Speaker 2 This is...

Speaker 2 All of humanity is at stake on this one. I think it's reasonable to have that conversation.
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Speaker 2 Can you check and see if we have some breaking news yet? It was supposed to come out five minutes ago. Let's see if it has.
If it has, we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 But in the meantime, let me tell you about

Speaker 2 my interview with the CEO of Cracker Barrel. It airs tonight at 6 p.m.
on Blaze TV, also

Speaker 2 my YouTube channel, and then it'll be out on Saturday. And I pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed hard on the CEO.

Speaker 2 In fact, I asked about the pride chairs and the rockers at Cracker Barrel and DEI.

Speaker 2 What is the role in DEI? What role did it play? And does it still play a role at Cracker Barrel?

Speaker 2 Listen to this, the interview from tonight. You know,

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 It felt like that to a lot of people, that you were just like, we don't care about your values. We want new customers.

Speaker 2 This is who we are. And

Speaker 2 this is unfair to you.

Speaker 2 There was that one picture that was going around of the rainbow

Speaker 2 seats.

Speaker 2 That wasn't you. That wasn't part of this new deal.

Speaker 2 But was there DEI and all that crap going on in the company?

Speaker 2 This was truly about, you know, wait, as you look around, we didn't blur that logo on so many things, hats, and shirts. And it was truly about making it more simple as part of the system.

Speaker 2 No, but I mean, was DEI,

Speaker 2 was the

Speaker 2 had the company embraced DEI

Speaker 2 as a culture?

Speaker 2 Look, the cracker barrel has always been about welcoming everybody in.

Speaker 9 I think before I was here, we had different policies.

Speaker 2 We're here to take care of everybody. We're here to make sure everybody can work here, can be welcome here.

Speaker 2 Right. But there's a difference between, I think, every American wants that.
There's a difference between that and promoting,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 when

Speaker 2 a brand,

Speaker 2 I don't even know which one, it's probably Nike, all of a sudden makes it a point of saying

Speaker 2 boys can be girls and they should be in the girls' locker room. I don't need that from my brand.
I don't want that from my brand.

Speaker 2 You as individuals can make whatever choice you want, but don't preach to me from a corporate place. Don't preach to me on that.
Just leave me alone. I'm here to buy your shoes.

Speaker 2 I'm here to eat your meal. Can we just not have that thrown in our face?

Speaker 2 What I'm asking you, was that part of any of the strategy that this was becoming

Speaker 2 we have to make political statements? No, not at all. Not even one thousand.

Speaker 9 Yeah, we're not trying to make political statements.

Speaker 2 So I pushed and pushed and pushed, and

Speaker 2 I didn't feel like I got a great answer on this one. However, here's the breaking news that just happened.
Cracker Barrel today

Speaker 2 has announced the

Speaker 2 preliminary vote against the company's proxy solicitor, and it indicates the shareholders have voted to elect nine out of the ten companies nominees of the company's board of directors.

Speaker 2 This is their annual meeting. One of them has now with with has resigned from the board, and the board has now been reduced its size from 10 directors to nine directors.

Speaker 2 Who is that 10th director?

Speaker 2 I'm going to introduce you to him here in just a second because it answers that question.

Speaker 2 He was their DEI guy.

Speaker 2 He's now gone off their board. I'll explain next.

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Speaker 2 So, Stu,

Speaker 2 let's just

Speaker 2 ask questions about

Speaker 2 the special tonight. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm interested in this.

Speaker 1 It's a big

Speaker 1 special. And

Speaker 1 your back and forth with them there was kind of fascinating, right? Like, you have a situation where

Speaker 1 they do seem to be sort of avoiding the question there on DEI. Is that how you read it?

Speaker 1 And, oh, have we lost connection with Glenn? Is that what's going on?

Speaker 2 All right. Well, that's how I read it at least.

Speaker 1 You listen to that clip of them going back and forth, and it does appear to be that them just sort of avoiding the question. We should get back to Glenn because I know he's got this breaking news

Speaker 1 on this. Should we go to another clip on the Cracker Barrel thing while we're waiting for Glenn to reconnect? Because this sort of sets the stage.
And it is,

Speaker 1 you know, it was interesting to see their approach here, which was to try to explain themselves and try to work themselves through what is one of the biggest PR disasters we've seen probably in our lifetimes.

Speaker 1 And let's go to this next clip.

Speaker 2 As we came out of COVID, A, trying to hire 50,000 people back, we got a lot of our employees original back, but we did, we lost a lot of very long tenured employees, a lot of them a little bit older and scared to come back into the environment.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 2 that's a lot of institutional knowledge costs. It hurt.

Speaker 2 It really hurt. And in 22, as we started opening back up, we had that new menu that we had.
So we lost all the people. We put a ton of training into that new menu.

Speaker 2 Now we're coming back trying to open up.

Speaker 2 We're trying to get guests any way we can get them. Like it is, we had patio dining.

Speaker 2 We were testing a rock garden dining. Like they were going to sit out

Speaker 2 in the landscape.

Speaker 2 And I always say that

Speaker 2 COVID even made Cracker Barrel start drinking alcohol.

Speaker 2 Because that's how it happened.

Speaker 2 It was out of COVID that it was like, how are we figuring out how to drive top line sales and try to get a guest in? And is this something that we could potentially do? So that is a good example of...

Speaker 2 If you don't know any of the story,

Speaker 2 you think, Cracker Barrels never served alcohol before. Why are you shoving alcohol? That's a cultural...

Speaker 2 And so it's easy to think,

Speaker 2 you're selling people alcohol now. What other values are you?

Speaker 2 You you know what i mean and then that's fair yeah and i think it's yeah it's at least that one is at least understandable yeah and so now that you understand the story yeah exactly and so and you know as we got into to 23 um

Speaker 2 i came out of my ops administration role and came into operations and um i was leading field operations

Speaker 2 best way for me to describe it is we were throwing velcro balls at a wall to see what would stick

Speaker 1 and it's understandable you know it's it's easy to kind of look at the cracker barrel situation and get lost in the fact of how badly it went. A lot of these decisions come down to

Speaker 1 the information they have at the time, right? And they're looking at the time as, you know, a place that maybe people aren't coming into as much as they'd like. They're trying to grow the,

Speaker 1 maybe it's fading a little bit. Maybe some people find it stale, right?

Speaker 1 They think that the situation at Cracker Barrel isn't one that they're necessarily wanting to get involved with on a week-to-week basis like they used to.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe they have those warm feelings of the past, but they're not going in anymore. And they're like, oh, we'll just freshen it up.
We'll do all these new things. This will be great.

Speaker 1 And you realize sometimes when you're in that moment,

Speaker 1 you hit a vein, right? Like you're trying to do something

Speaker 1 positive for the company, and you hit a vein, and everything starts bleeding all over the place. Let me give you another piece of this interview, Glenn back up at the headquarters

Speaker 1 of Cracker Barrel. And somehow, I will give Glenn credit, not eating throughout the interview.

Speaker 1 I kind of thought that when they put food in front of him, they'd just be shoveling it down his gullet the entire time, and you wouldn't be able to hear him because it would just be like chewing with his, you know, talking with his mouth full.

Speaker 1 But he got through it without taking many bites. Here's Glenn with the CEO of Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 Let's just get this out. Okay.

Speaker 2 What happened

Speaker 2 to the choices they were made?

Speaker 2 I said on day one of this,

Speaker 2 I remember when they rolled out New Coke, and I thought that was the dumbest marketing move, the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 We're taking the original formula and ditching it, and let's start over with a brand that people love.

Speaker 2 The day this broke, I said on the air, welcome to New Coke.

Speaker 2 That's what this is.

Speaker 2 And it was,

Speaker 2 no offense,

Speaker 2 stupid, just stupid from start to finish.

Speaker 2 Can you walk me through how that happened? Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 9 Look, our guests have a right to be upset.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 you want to watch this.

Speaker 2 And I, you know, what I really want you to watch for is

Speaker 2 a moment where I said to her,

Speaker 2 Are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

Speaker 2 That

Speaker 2 spoke volume. Her answer, and I hope it is captured on camera,

Speaker 2 but that answer was

Speaker 2 the first non-you know, when you're a CEO,

Speaker 2 Stu, do you remember when we used to have to do really important interviews and our PR people would be like, drill, drill, drill. No, don't say that, don't say that.
And I'd be like, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know, when you are in charge of a Fortune 500 company and you are in the trouble that they're in, You

Speaker 2 do,

Speaker 2 you know, you follow the people that you've hired to make sure crisis management, you don't make any more mistakes. And so everybody was very, very careful.

Speaker 2 They were very honest, but, you know, like that DEI thing, she, she didn't really answer the question. She, of course, we want everybody to be welcome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know, but that's not answering the question.

Speaker 2 When I asked her,

Speaker 2 are you surprised you still have a job? You haven't been fired yet? Her answer spoke volumes. Now, the other thing that you need to know is while she didn't answer me on the DEI thing,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 I can't tell you exactly how this happened. I just know that they knew that they didn't answer the question.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 somebody

Speaker 2 has been in touch with my people and said, hey, you might want to watch the board meeting that is happening.

Speaker 2 We can't tell you that anything is going to be happening, but

Speaker 2 the DEI thing may be solved at the board meeting. That happened this morning, and they were going to release something at 11.15 today.
We didn't know exactly what it was.

Speaker 2 We had an indication that it might be about DEI and what they've done at first. Remember, in August, they just deleted the Pride pages and the DEI pages.

Speaker 2 And, you know, they just got rid of it all on Cracker Barrel. Well, that just is hiding who you are.

Speaker 2 The real problem was they had a guy who was on the board of directors named Gilbert DeVilla, and he's just resigned from the board today.

Speaker 2 They had a meeting with the board and shareholders and everything else and they voted on all of these people and they did not renew him. And so

Speaker 2 he has

Speaker 2 resigned. Now

Speaker 2 his job

Speaker 2 He was a member of the standing board committee, and his job was to assess the social and and political risk to the company's business. Well, who is he?

Speaker 2 Well, he's also the CEO of a company called DMI Consulting. That's a DEI strategy firm that's been in business since 2010.
So he's one of the guys. He was the guy who, his job as

Speaker 2 the CEO of DMI is to promote, you know,

Speaker 2 DEI to make sure everybody's living up to the DEI standards.

Speaker 2 So Robbie Starbuck, who is a friend of the program and a great conservative activist who has been responsible for getting a lot of these people out of these companies, or at least drawing attention to what these companies are really standing for, he's been asking for a while, what does he do to deserve this seat on the board?

Speaker 2 Well, that's it. He owned a DEI consulting and strategy firm that was pushing DEI and DEI advertising.
So

Speaker 2 what's happened here is I think while she couldn't answer that question at the time because the board hadn't acted,

Speaker 2 I think it's not coincidental that the day the interview with her drops with us,

Speaker 2 which they've known for a couple of weeks, this is when this interview would drop, they...

Speaker 2 They announced that morning that seat's been eliminated. DEI is gone from Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2 So I think that's really, really good news. If you're a fan of Cracker Barrel,

Speaker 2 and the things that I saw at Cracker Barrel,

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell you some stuff tomorrow. I just have to make sure that it's exactly accurate because I don't want to cause more problems for us.

Speaker 2 And I want to make sure I get it exactly right. But there were some things that I learned in the show prep,

Speaker 2 you know, study up for this interview

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 no one was prepared to talk to me on camera about.

Speaker 2 And that always says to me, oh, well, there's something there. And so we've done even more homework on it.
And tomorrow I'm going to tell you about something you might have heard about.

Speaker 2 This guy who owns,

Speaker 2 what is it, Steak and Shake?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. He's a big

Speaker 1 shareholder, isn't he? Kind of against

Speaker 1 some of the leadership there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Cracker Barrel. I think I've read about that.
Yes, yes. And he has an interesting history.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I want to take you through some of that tomorrow. I think by tomorrow, you're going to understand what you saw with the DEI vote on the board today.
Get that gone. That's gone.

Speaker 2 The interview that you'll see tonight

Speaker 2 with Julie, the CEO, she's not who you think she is. It doesn't mean she didn't make huge mistakes.
She said she makes huge mistakes, but she's not who you think she is.

Speaker 2 You may not agree with her or whatever, but it's important you know who she is and what she said. And the key tonight is that question.

Speaker 2 Are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

Speaker 2 And really what happened after. She answers the question and she's very uncomfortable, answers the question, and then she immediately switches topics.
And I'm like, wait, wait, stop, stop. Go back.

Speaker 2 Why are you switching topics here? Because it was an amazing moment. And she immediately changes the subject after she answers.
And

Speaker 2 then she comes back and she says a few things, you'll see. And then I bring it back to her again, and she switches topics again.
And I'm like, why are you doing that?

Speaker 2 Why are you doing that? And she had a very interesting answer on all of that. That is one of the most honest things I think I've ever seen a Fortune 500 company or CEO ever say.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 it was really uncomfortable, but really, really honest. I think once you see this, and then I tell you tomorrow about the board member

Speaker 2 on the things that I can verify. I don't know, I'm not sure what we can verify yet, but the things that I've heard and the things I think we can verify tomorrow, um,

Speaker 2 you will see that

Speaker 2 uh, I think

Speaker 2 they made stupid moves, they had really bad advice from DEI people.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 they were set up to some degree. They were set up.
The company was, not individuals. The company was set up.

Speaker 2 I think you'll have every question you need to know about Cracker Barrel and what happened answered.

Speaker 2 So watch it tonight. It comes out at 6 o'clock only on Blaze TV.
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Speaker 2 Wherever you get your podcast, make sure you listen to it Saturday. It is the CEO of Cracker Barrel in her first interview since that disastrous interview on Good Morning America.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glen Beck program. Can we play cut two, please? This is Elon Musk on AI and humanoid robots.
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Speaker 2 But AI and humanoid robots will actually eliminate poverty. And Tesla won't be the only one that makes them.

Speaker 2 I think Tesla will pioneer this, but there will be many other companies that make humanoid robots. But there is only basically one way to make everyone wealthy, and that is AI and robotics.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I have a feeling

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Speaker 2 I'm just saying that is one way to get rid of poverty. You know, we wouldn't have all this poverty if it wasn't for all these humans.

Speaker 2 Maybe that's just me, Stu. Is that too pessimistic? I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Possibly, possibly. I think, you know, I like the aspirational goal of it.
You know, of course, you know, there will always be some level of poverty.

Speaker 1 He later posted about the difference between absolute and relative poverty, and I think that's a really important distinction.

Speaker 1 You know, there's always going to be people that are more wealthy than others.

Speaker 1 But like in the developed world, we've arguably already eliminated poverty or at least somewhat close to it if percentage-wise the way

Speaker 2 yeah, at least the way it was in the in the Western world and most of the world the way poverty used to be 100 years ago is is gone for the most part

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