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Speaker 1 a turn of events in the charges against uh james comey and letitia james we'll get into that coming up in one minute

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Speaker 1 So, federal judge Cameron McGowan Curry dismissed the charges against ex-FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James yesterday. So, the president's not very happy about that.

Speaker 1 Dismissed the case, which was brought by President Trump's hand-picked prosecutor in Northern Virginia, Lindsey Halligan, on the basis that Halligan is not lawfully serving as the interim United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 the White House is not happy. I guess they're going to appeal.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 who knows? Who knows where we go from here, which is the way that's clear? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's an interesting thing. I think it's sort of a feature.
Some would argue a feature. Some would argue a bug of the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 If you think back to traditional Republicans

Speaker 1 that have been in office before,

Speaker 1 there's a complaint by many in the conservative movement or MAGA movement or whatever you want to call it these days, is

Speaker 1 they are too buttoned up on traditions and process

Speaker 1 and rules and all these things that exist, sometimes for seemingly dumb reasons, right? Like there's little tradition, oh, I would never do that. No, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 And one of the things I think that got Trump the nomination in 2016 and a victory again in 2024 was a lot of people saying, stop with that, right?

Speaker 1 Like stop constantly, every time we have a victory, stop, you know, grabbing it out of the,

Speaker 1 grabbing defeat out of the jaws of victory for no real reason. The left doesn't do that.
We shouldn't do that either.

Speaker 1 And so it's become, and this is a boring word to lead a show with, but it's a process question, right? It's about process.

Speaker 1 And one of the it's simultaneously, I think, with the Trump administration, one of the reasons why people voted for Donald Trump is because he wasn't obsessed and got bogged down with every bit of process and tradition and

Speaker 1 unspoken, unwritten rules, and all of that. He was willing to kind of just blow through a lot of that stuff to get stuff done.
And people love that about him.

Speaker 1 But it's a blessing and a curse because not every one of these things is an unwritten rule. Some of them are written rules, you know.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 here, you know, he's in a bit of a gray area. We don't know exactly how this is going to work out.
As you point out, we don't, I mean, you know, the courts are going to rule on it. Yep.

Speaker 1 But, you know, he had a guy who was in this office

Speaker 1 in a temporary way.

Speaker 1 And he didn't like what he was doing. It was coming up to the deadline to file these charges against these people.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 whether this, they don't necessarily admit that this was the reason, but

Speaker 1 it was, in my opinion, that they wanted to get these charges in before the deadline. So this guy wasn't going to bring them.

Speaker 1 The people, the career officials inside this office said they didn't have a case. So they were like, we need to get someone who's going to bring this case.
We think there is a case.

Speaker 1 So they brought in Lindsay Halligan, who had never prosecuted a case before in her life at any level. Yeah.
You know, I mean, that's what they did. And but that is not even the issue.

Speaker 1 It doesn't even seem like she.

Speaker 1 The reason why this was tossed out was not because she made some big mistake. Because what they're saying is you can't layer a temporary role on top of a temporary role.

Speaker 1 The way this is supposed to work is there has to be advice and consent from the Senate. And they did not get that with not only Halligan, but also the previous guy who was in there.

Speaker 1 They were like, well, we didn't get that yet. We need to get advice and consent eventually.
But if they don't get that, they can just put a temporary person in the role.

Speaker 1 What they can't do is put a temporary person in the role, fire them, and put another temporary person in the role, and just keep cycling through through that until they get what they want.

Speaker 1 That's at least what the court is saying at this point. Now, whether that will be overturned by higher courts, we don't know yet.
They're going to appeal this. It's going to go up the chain.

Speaker 1 But a lot of this stuff, I'd argue the same thing happened with tariffs, is that like they want to get something done.

Speaker 1 And I think Trump is a guy that comes to his people and says, look, this is what I'm going to do. Get it done.
Find a way.

Speaker 1 And sometimes

Speaker 1 this is not Trump's doing, I don't think.

Speaker 1 I don't think Trump was like, I must have these tariffs through IEPA, this emergency rule. I don't think that's what he said.
I think he said, get them done. I'm doing them.

Speaker 1 This is how we're going to do it.

Speaker 1 You go out there, you find the path, and find it, make it legal, make it constitutional. I don't think he's saying, oh, gosh, break the rules.
I think he's saying, this is what I want to do.

Speaker 1 Find the correct path to do that. I'm a guy that gets things done.
This is how he does, this is how he ran his real estate empire, right? Like, get it done.

Speaker 1 Do with it in the rules, but get it done. And so his people, I don't know how they're doing this stuff.
Some of this stuff to me sounds completely buttoned up.

Speaker 1 Some of it sounds like couldn't really find what they, what, you know, what they wanted. So sometimes it feels like they're just going to like chat GPT and

Speaker 1 saying whatever the first thing they could come up with is, honestly.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know. The IEPA justification for tariffs falls into that category for me.
We'll see what the courts say. And the Supreme Court is going to be ruling on this soon.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, you know, so it's a law that doesn't even mention the word tariffs. So I don't think it justifies that.

Speaker 1 So, but they do that, and then they get caught up in this process battle, which is somewhat distracting from what Trump actually wants to do.

Speaker 1 And sometimes, you know, as a blessing and a curse, some of this stuff has really helped. Some of it has pushed stuff through that's important.

Speaker 1 And sometimes we get caught up in court battles that actually derail. the goal of the Trump administration in the first place.

Speaker 1 At least that's how I see it. Is that kind of your view? Yeah, I think so.
It's just that, you know, the courts have been so intrusive into everything Trump has tried to do. Yes.
This is

Speaker 1 another one where it's just like, okay, can you just let the executive branch do something?

Speaker 1 And they don't. I mean, they're into everything.
How many injunctions has he had?

Speaker 1 I think it's 44,

Speaker 1 45 or something in nine months. It's unbelievable.
When in eight years under Obama, it was something like 12.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but it's amazing how he has been stymied at every turn. And I can understand their frustration, and I think a lot of times it's legitimate, right?

Speaker 1 Obviously, I think the courts have been kind of crazy against Donald Trump. That's not exactly a breaking news segment.
I think that if

Speaker 1 he,

Speaker 1 it's an argument that I bet they're having behind closed doors often, which is we have two ways of going here.

Speaker 1 We can try to be so buttoned up that we never get challenged in court, but we know what's going to happen. Of course, we're going to get challenged in court.

Speaker 1 And of course, these courts are going to come after Donald Trump because they don't like what he does. So instead of worrying about all that up front, let's just roll the dice.
And here's a path.

Speaker 1 Let's go down that path and see what the courts say. If they say no, we'll go a different path.
Yeah. And I mean, again,

Speaker 1 it's not a healthy way

Speaker 1 to be running a justice system, right? Like it should not be constantly, okay, the default judgment is against Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 So let's make his life as difficult as possible And let's see if he can navigate a way through all this.

Speaker 1 That shouldn't be. No.
It shouldn't be the way it works. It shouldn't.

Speaker 1 And the other part that's just agonizing is that it's given James Comey a victory here.

Speaker 1 And so we got to put up with this.

Speaker 1 Why would you play this? You don't need to play it. You could just, we could skip it.
We could, I suppose.

Speaker 3 But I was pleased about the appointment of the attorney general on that situation. I did think that that was going to be an issue.

Speaker 3 And I did think from the very very beginning that Comey was going to have a valid legal argument.

Speaker 3 And what's interesting about the decision is it doesn't go to whether or not your crimes were actually committed. It just goes to the way in which the prosecutor was appointed.

Speaker 3 So I'm not surprised legally when it comes to that issue.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's not exactly what I thought it was going to be. I thought it was James Comey, but this is them explaining what you kind of just explained.

Speaker 1 But he comes out and talks about, you know, how he's been so wronged and this is a victory for democracy and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 And it's just agonizing, agonizing that he's, he's got this little win for now.

Speaker 1 Because he's so smug. Oh, he really is.
So irritating me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you this, Pat.

Speaker 1 If I had to give you

Speaker 1 a list of the people Donald Trump despises the most, would you put James Comey at the top of it? It'd be pretty close. He'd be up there.
He's a top five guy. Oh, for sure.
I think so.

Speaker 1 I think he's up there. He's top five.
I think he's top five.

Speaker 1 Who else would you put on that list in a top five street? Mike Pence?

Speaker 1 Probably. Probably Mike Pence would be up there.

Speaker 1 Thomas Massey?

Speaker 1 Lately, it does seem like Thomas Massey's up there. He's up there always.

Speaker 1 He also called Rand Paul like a wacko lunatic or something the other day. Like, I feel like, and

Speaker 1 let me push back on your top five list a little bit here, Pat. Yes.
Because this is an important distinction. It's an important list, as you know.
It is an important list.

Speaker 1 It's a revered list of who does Donald Trump hate the most.

Speaker 1 And unfortunately, the guy who's off this week, who probably a former member of that list, Glenn Beck, not here

Speaker 1 to chime in on this.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think like

Speaker 1 Massey and Paul are interesting because

Speaker 1 at times he's okay with them.

Speaker 1 I think he's... But he should be.
They're great. First of all, I agree.
I like both Massey and Rand Paul.

Speaker 1 The reason why they disagree with Donald Trump on these things occasionally is because they are ideological libertarian types.

Speaker 1 I tend to like. They care about our debt.
They care about our debt. They care about constitutional rules that a lot of times even conservatives aren't that focused on.

Speaker 1 Now, you could say they're right or wrong on that, but they're not coming after Donald Trump because they hate Donald Trump. That is like

Speaker 1 an argument that James Comey, you know, maybe this wasn't always true, but certainly is true now. Just can't stand Donald Trump and will do anything he can to destroy the guy.
He hates him.

Speaker 1 And I think, and I don't think that's true with, I don't think that's true, certainly, with Mike Pence throughout his life. I mean, he was very, very loyal to Donald Trump up to the end of the day.

Speaker 1 It was at the end. The very end where they got in this bit of a had a little bit of a scuffle

Speaker 1 politically.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 but I think like

Speaker 1 oftentimes Massey and Brand Rand Paul vote with Donald Trump. And in those moments, he has, he's whatever.
He just, they're more of like an irritants. Like, shut up.

Speaker 1 Stop getting in my way. Like, I think that's how they think he thinks of them.
But I don't think he despises those guys, even though he trashes them online sometimes.

Speaker 1 I think Comey. Comey's one of those.
You could not hate more. John Bolton.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Bolton falls into this category. Yes.
Out of a bar, maybe. Maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe is in that category. Like, it's more like personal, you

Speaker 1 I think his disagreements with Rand Paul are like ideological. Like, he gets annoyed because he's not

Speaker 1 doing a specific thing that he wants at that point. Where I think with James Comey, it is personal.
Yeah, and here he is gloating. Here's some.

Speaker 1 I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution

Speaker 1 based on malevolence and incompetence.

Speaker 1 And a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. This is amazing.

Speaker 1 But I I was also inspired by the example of the career people who refused to be part of this travesty.

Speaker 1 It cost some of them their jobs, which is painful, but it preserved their integrity, which is beyond price. And it helped you.
And I know they will serve again.

Speaker 1 I was very lucky that some of the success lawyers in America came forward to represent me.

Speaker 1 I hope they serve as an example to more and more lawyers, especially some of the big firms, to participate in protecting our liberty, protecting the rule of law.

Speaker 4 And my family and friends were always with me.

Speaker 1 And luckily for me, include some of those great lawyers. Wow.
Beautiful. This case mattered to me personally, obviously, but it matters most because a message has to be sent

Speaker 1 that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice

Speaker 1 to target his political enemies. Okay, that's true.
Which is exactly what they did to Trump. They used the Department of Justice to prosecute an enemy.

Speaker 1 They did exactly that. And it's just amazing that he can say that with a straight face.

Speaker 1 Here's the problem with that argument, though, from your perspective, Pat, is you're not supposed to remember that. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 The best thing for the left and the media would be when we forgot completely about that. What if, like, what if going forward, you didn't bring it up anymore? What about that? Is that a possibility?

Speaker 1 That would be helpful for them. It would be helpful for them.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 that's a big part of my calculation.

Speaker 1 What's going to be helpful to the James Comeys

Speaker 1 and the entire left in this country? Because

Speaker 1 that's how I make a lot of decisions. Really? I thought so.
I thought so. Well, it's so irritating because

Speaker 1 they showed no restraint whatsoever. Remember, it wasn't one case.
They were like, hey, look, January 6th, we think this is important to look into.

Speaker 1 It wasn't like they came up with something like that. It was, oh, here's every single thing.
It's the same process argument we just had with Trump in a way. Yeah.
And that like

Speaker 1 they broke every rule, every tradition, breaking things like statute of limitations to go after Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 They went after him in any way they could possibly do, whether it was civil cases, criminal cases, pressures, trying to get him thrown off ballots, trying to,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 get him constitutionally barred from office. Right.

Speaker 1 Obviously,

Speaker 1 they tried to impeach him and did impeach him and tried to get him removed, failed there. They tried every single thing they could.
They broke every single tradition.

Speaker 1 They broke every single unwritten rule and many written rules to try to throw this man in prison so he would not get the job he currently has. And they were warned every step of the way.

Speaker 1 Hey, you might not want to do this. You won't always be in power.
Right. You know? And then

Speaker 1 immediately.

Speaker 1 Immediately when he's in the office and he does something they don't like, they're like, can you believe?

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. The Department of of Justice has always been so pristine.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 this man is using it against people from the opposing party?

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, calm down.

Speaker 1 The other one

Speaker 1 I feel the same way about is:

Speaker 1 We are risking political violence. Are we? Let me whisper into the president's bloody ear and ask him about how he feels about it.
Are we risking political violence, boys and girls? It's insane.

Speaker 1 It's so insultingly stupid.

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Some interesting things from Sean Duffy as we prepare for, I think, isn't tomorrow the biggest travel day of the year?

Speaker 1 That's what they always say.

Speaker 1 So we're preparing for the biggest travel day of the year with this announcement from Sean Duffy.

Speaker 4 Civility. Some of you might have noticed that we've launched a civility campaign.

Speaker 4 And I think it's important as we travel that we think about not just ourselves, not just our families, but we think about those who are around us. And we call our better angels.

Speaker 4 In a busy time, and again, the airports are going to be packed. TSA lines may be a little longer.

Speaker 4 And you might not be able to find a seat as you're by your gate because of the number of flights that are going out or coming in. But I think we have to think about how do we do a better job?

Speaker 4 How do we maintain maybe some of that frustration we have as we travel this Thanksgiving season?

Speaker 4 Maybe

Speaker 4 we should say a pleasing thank you to our pilots and to

Speaker 4 our flight attendants. I think, again, I call this just maybe dressing with some

Speaker 1 you know, wearing a pair of jeans and

Speaker 4 a decent shirt. I would encourage people to maybe dress a little better, which

Speaker 4 encourages us to maybe behave all a little better.

Speaker 4 Let's try not to wear slippers

Speaker 4 and pajamas as we come to the airport. I think that's positive.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Daddy Sean.

Speaker 1 That's good advice. So dress a little nicer if you're going to the airport this year.
He doesn't want to see you in pajamas and slippers, which I never see at the airport anyway.

Speaker 1 Do you see people, a lot of people wearing pajamas? I mean, I think there is a. Maybe on an overnight flight, the kids, sometimes.
I was going to say younger,

Speaker 1 not even kids, kids, but like there's a there's a teenager thing where they wear pajamas all over the place these days.

Speaker 1 Pat, these, these children of today,

Speaker 1 they tend to wear their PJs to the airport.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 like I try to wear, look, I, I like Sean, but I wear as comfortable clothing as possible to the airport.

Speaker 1 I've got three inches between me and the seat in front of me. I'm going to dress comfortably.
Yeah, frankly, I'm not wearing a suit and tie. Sorry.
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Speaker 1 Another thing the left are having a bit about is the fact that the Pentagon announced yesterday they're investigating Democrat Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law after he joined a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called for troops to defy illegal orders.

Speaker 1 What illegal orders have they received?

Speaker 1 They can't seem to answer that question. They really don't want to answer it.
No, because the answer is none. They haven't received any illegal orders.

Speaker 1 So what is it you're, I mean, why are you saying this all of a sudden so there's that's a good question yeah where where did this come from why you're they're just making stuff up out of whole cloth uh how do you feel about the the pentagon investigating mark kelly

Speaker 1 you know a lot of it's complicated military rule right rules right like all the people in the video it's only mark kelly my understanding of that is because he's the only one that's retired yeah uh okay you have to basically be out of of the military for 20 years.

Speaker 1 And then there's this.

Speaker 1 He's retired. Again, every military person is like, How you don't know what you're talking about.
This is my stupid, I never serve for the country understanding of this.

Speaker 1 So please bear with me a little bit. Maybe we could be corrected if you know differently than yeah.
But he basically is the only one that

Speaker 1 is in that category of retired, which means they can call him back and he can be asked about this and

Speaker 1 under the military code of justice, which came out in the 50s, right?

Speaker 1 Through this. So anyway, long story short,

Speaker 1 there is a constitutional question to this in that he is in Congress

Speaker 1 and also has a responsibility through the military. So this is an interest, I think, an interesting academic question here in a separation of powers sense.

Speaker 1 That, like, can the executive say you need to leave what you're doing in Congress?

Speaker 1 Can the executive boss Congress around? A lot of times the answer to that is no.

Speaker 1 And by the way, when everyone says, oh, oh, there's co-equal branches, really, Congress is the superior branch in our system. I mean, you know, the president can't impeach a member of Congress.

Speaker 1 Congress can impeach the president.

Speaker 1 Congress can do lots of things that they are the superior branch in a way, but there's a separation of powers. You can't just boss the other one around.

Speaker 1 And that's the argument that they're going to present, I'm sure, in court, whether it's to even,

Speaker 1 as to whether he even has to respond to this.

Speaker 1 As far as whether he did something wrong here, I think he definitely did something wrong,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 morally, politically,

Speaker 1 because his motivation is not pure

Speaker 1 when he says, okay, guys,

Speaker 1 no illegal orders. Everybody in the military area knows that.
What they're trying to do is get the military not to listen to Trump. Right.
And that's what I think his real motivation is.

Speaker 1 However, he didn't say that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, his language, I thought,

Speaker 1 in that entire video, it was very clean. Like,

Speaker 1 knew the risk was there if they started saying, don't listen to Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 So they were saying that that was very careful not to do that. They were very careful not to do it.
So I don't know that there's a legal case against them unless new information pops out.

Speaker 1 What they might be doing here, Pat, I don't know, but what they might be doing is trying to start a legal proceeding that allows them to look at maybe the messages that led to the video. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And maybe in there,

Speaker 1 they reveal their actual motivation for doing it. And then that could be a problem.
I don't think what we know publicly at this time would lead to that

Speaker 1 legally. Again, I think it was awful.
And when I first saw it, my first thought was like, wait a minute, are you saying you want

Speaker 1 them to listen to the commander in chief?

Speaker 1 There's all sorts of possible.

Speaker 1 Glenn was talking about sedition and all these things.

Speaker 1 If we find more information that indicates that, that might be a legitimate path. I just don't know that we know that yet.

Speaker 1 President Trump did ramp it up a little little bit when

Speaker 1 he accused the lawmakers of sedition and mentioned that sedition is punishable by death. So that made it seem to them, supposedly, like he's threatening to have them executed, which

Speaker 1 I don't think he was directly doing, but he's just reminding them, hey, if you commit sedition, if you commit treason,

Speaker 1 that's the only penalty that's actually spelled out in the Constitution. And what it calls for is death.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's an interesting distinction you're making, Bay Pat.

Speaker 1 Because he kind of see this. He kind of squawks that line a little bit and sometimes goes over the line just a tad.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 there is literally, and I mean this literally, I'm using the word correctly here, zero risk for any of these people to be executed. Of course, yes.

Speaker 1 That is not actually going to be. He did sort of insinuate it.
He did kind of say it. I don't think it even.
I don't know. I have to look at the definition of insinuate.

Speaker 1 He sort of just said it, right? Like that they deserve it. There's zero chance it's going to happen.
And this is why a lot of the media nonsense is so irritating to me. It's like they all know

Speaker 1 they're not going to go through a treason trying them. He's not saying he's going to try them and execute them.

Speaker 1 Quite obviously. He's not doing that.
Right. But what he's trying to do, I assume, is number one, get under their skin.
But number two, he's good at that. He is good at it.

Speaker 1 Number two, say, hey, this is a serious problem.

Speaker 1 And this is why what we talked about yesterday is true. It is a serious problem.
Yeah, I think it's a problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There was no reason for that video to be released, to be produced and released.
Why?

Speaker 1 Who's giving illegal orders? No one.

Speaker 1 So what are you even trying to do here? You're just,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's obvious what they're doing. They're just trying to impede Trump at every turn.

Speaker 1 Yes. And in a way that I think here is really dangerous.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 They are trying to get people, and this is their way of everything from the baseline level, Pat, of they're trying to stir up whistleblowers, right?

Speaker 1 They're trying to get people who are against Trump in the White House, or excuse me, in the military to say, hey, This is wrong. This is wrong.

Speaker 1 This is wrong, and leak it to Democratic officials, right? Like, that's probably their baseline idea. Bigger than that, I think there is a

Speaker 1 they would love, they would absolutely love a high-profile military member to come out in public and say, we are not allowed to go in these cities and this president is a fascist. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 They would love that. They're encouraging that at the very least.
Now, it might be more than that.

Speaker 1 But I think that that's, you know, probably a good chunk of what they're attempting to do here. They're trying to be able to have people they can file lawsuits through.

Speaker 1 They're trying to stir up all sorts of opposition within the ranks because

Speaker 1 they hate him

Speaker 1 more than anything in the world.

Speaker 1 I know it sounds simple.

Speaker 1 Maybe some of them believe.

Speaker 1 Some of this. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And I don't know any of them personally. And they're like, I don't think any of them have a high enough profile that I could honestly

Speaker 1 separate them from the average Democrat. They're all very boring zilches in Congress.
Like there's no one really of no, I mean, Mark Kelly's the biggest one.

Speaker 1 And again, Kelly was overlooked by vice president. This is something I did very well in prediction markets on Pat, was

Speaker 1 I looked at, I even said this on the air when we were talking about who are they going to, who is Kamala going to pick for VP?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I went through, this is part of the process I go through when I'm looking at on paper. And I looked through all those people on paper, Shapiro and Walls and all of them.

Speaker 1 And I looked at Mark Kelly and I was like, on paper, he is the best choice. You've got a swing state in play.
You've got a guy who served in the military.

Speaker 1 He could give you that. He's got an astronaut.

Speaker 1 All these things, right?

Speaker 1 Cool things. I went through the whole thing and I was like, on paper, this is the guy.
And I said on the air, I still have to do my film study, though.

Speaker 1 You know, when you listen, you know, you listen to, if you're a fan of an NFL team and you like listen to all their podcasts and stuff, they'll go through and every once you'll get a podcast on film study.

Speaker 1 They'll be like, they're running this pattern too much. Their defense is lining up in this formation too often against this.

Speaker 1 The nerds, the nerd stuff. And film study for that, for me, is I got to go watch.
And how good is this guy?

Speaker 1 Just take out the policy, take out his credentials. When I watch him, is he any good at this? Is he good at speeches? Is he good at speeches? Is he good at a debate?

Speaker 1 Remember, in a vice president, conferences, all of that.

Speaker 1 There's only one thing thing that really matters when you pick a vice president when it comes down to it, which is how does he do in that debate? Right.

Speaker 1 Like, really, the only thing that matters is he's gonna. And I watched a bunch of debates and press conferences and speeches, and I was like, they are not picking this guy.
Oh, he's bad.

Speaker 1 He just sucks. He just sucks.
He looks like he looks nervous. He looks like he's reading.
He's looking like he's trying to memorize stuff.

Speaker 1 Now, you see him at certain times, and he's pretty natural when he's on his turf. When he's talking about something he cares about,

Speaker 1 he's not bad. When you put him in in a position of a debate, he's just really bad at it.
He's not good at it.

Speaker 1 He's not convincing. He's stilted and bad.
And so that was when I was like, you know, buying shares of no

Speaker 1 because I just didn't think it was going to happen. Now,

Speaker 1 I have to admit on that one, I was also shocked that they picked Tim Walls.

Speaker 1 Did you talk about bad? Because he's horrible in every way. He's bad on paper and bad on film.

Speaker 1 He's the worst. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lied about his military service, lied about his drunk driving thing.

Speaker 1 He was terrible at speeches. Yeah.
I don't know how they stumbled on him, but I'm glad they did. I'm glad they did, too.
Awful. I was awful.

Speaker 1 He did eat up some of my profits from the Mark Kelly decision. Unfortunately,

Speaker 1 I was like, there's no way they're going to pick Tim Walls. What are you talking about? But they did, thankfully.

Speaker 1 But like, that's a thing. So, again, my point there is that none of these people are really

Speaker 1 of note. You know what I mean? Kind of like, who? Wait,

Speaker 1 honestly, when I watched the video, I didn't know they were all congressmen.

Speaker 1 I do this for a living. I didn't even know they were all congressmen.
I think Mark Kelly was the only one I recognized. Slotkin.
Wasn't Slotkin in there? I knew her.

Speaker 1 There's a couple in there, but a couple of them was like... Who is that guy?

Speaker 1 They were like the John Tyler of Congressman.

Speaker 1 Wait, John Tyler was a president of the United States? Really?

Speaker 1 Are you sure?

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, okay. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 That's who they are. And so I think a lot of it is, you know,

Speaker 1 they just, you know, well, they were in the CIA or they were in the military. That's really their only qualification for anyone caring about what they would say.

Speaker 1 And Kelly's the only one of note that would be even worth going after, I think. They're all kind of nobodies.
They're all kind of noblest.

Speaker 1 And the only reason we know about him is because he was an astronaut. I mean,

Speaker 1 nobody knows anything about

Speaker 1 his time in Congress. We know that his wife was shot.
We know that. Oh,

Speaker 1 no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I've never heard him talk about it, Pat.

Speaker 1 I've never heard him bring it up one time.

Speaker 1 You know, he does it at every single opportunity, including this one, by the way, exploit the terrible tragedy that happened to his wife. He doesn't do that at all.

Speaker 1 This happened with this case because of, as you mentioned, Donald Trump's

Speaker 1 convers uh what is it, truth about the death penalty. It was like, this is not a time to bring up up political violence.
I know a little something about political violence.

Speaker 1 My wife was shot in the head. And like, look, that was an absolutely terrible thing.
It had nothing to do with political violence. The person who did it was literally insane.
Literally.

Speaker 1 He was upset about grammar. Grammar.
He had a fascination.

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 structures of sentences and punctuation. He was completely insane.
It was not political violence. He was just nuts.
We should have blamed English teachers for that shooting.

Speaker 1 We should have put English teachers in prison because they inspired that guy. Yes.
Right?

Speaker 1 Exactly. Thank you.
Too much talk about grammar set him off.

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Speaker 1 Our friend Ali Beth Stuckey had a guy on her show who was talking about the genocide of Nigerian Christians. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And I've learned a lot that I didn't know about it

Speaker 1 up until this point because what you hear from the mainstream news is that it's not really happening. Nah, it's not happening.
And in fact, if it does happen,

Speaker 1 they're killing Christians and Muslims.

Speaker 1 Well, he kind of clears up

Speaker 1 what is going on there. And it's a radicalized faction of Islam called the Fulani tribe, which I guess has exploded in population over the last 30 years.

Speaker 1 And they are a very hardcore

Speaker 1 Sharia law group. And they're trying to take over Nigeria.
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Speaker 1 their vision of Islam, then

Speaker 1 you are killed. And that's Christian or Muslim.
Now, he says it's about five to one Christians being killed over Muslims. And they've wiped out in 800 some

Speaker 1 villages

Speaker 1 or communities of Christians. In fact,

Speaker 1 Nigeria used to have a 70% Christian population. Were you aware of that? I had no idea that it was 70% Christian.
And now it's... I thought it was 70% prince.

Speaker 1 People are princes. The 70% of the population are protected.
Of the Nigerian population. Yes, yeah.
At least that from my email. I would think from your emails

Speaker 1 that it would be, but it's not. It's not.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 And some of the things that I get on my email box, they don't seem very Christian. They seem like they're exploiting old people.
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Yeah. No, apparently

Speaker 1 some of them, those people probably aren't the ones sending the emails. Probably not.
Probably not, would be my guess. That's fascinating, though.
It's a really good question.

Speaker 1 But it's gone from 70% to about half and half now because of the slaughter of Christians. It's just really a tragic situation.

Speaker 1 But the media just won't get on board, won't say anything about it. In fact, they do the opposite.
They deny it's even happening. It's a lot like what happened in South Africa.

Speaker 1 There's no white farmers being killed there. But the Christians in Nigeria committed an October 7th

Speaker 1 attack, right? That's what caused this? No. Oh, no? No, they did not.
No. Wow.
Wow. That's interesting.
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Speaker 1 Remember, Stu, back in 2009, 2010, when the whole Obamacare situation began, and we were somewhat opposed to it, I would say. Really? At the beginning, yeah.
See, I don't remember. At the beginning.

Speaker 1 You don't remember that?

Speaker 1 So we were against. Barack Obama wanted this Obamacare thing.
Oh, that's right. We wanted.

Speaker 1 That's right. We wanted people to die.
Yes. We wanted tonsils to be piled up in the streets because people

Speaker 1 and removed just for no reason. For no reason, because

Speaker 1 they're getting payments. That's what these doctors do.
Exactly. These evil doctors are just taking out tonsils and amputating feet.
If you remember at the time, that's a big problem.

Speaker 1 That's the right feet with

Speaker 1 the feet thing. It got piled up on the side of the road at almost every intersection because doctors would just take feet off.
You come in for a cold, they chop off your foot.

Speaker 1 It made an extra 500 bucks for them. Yeah.
What are you going to do? They don't care. If you can get an extra 500 bucks, you're going to take somebody's feet off.
This is what doctors do.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 Your hometown doctor would rather

Speaker 1 you have no feet than him not have 500 bucks in the bank.

Speaker 1 And that was a big problem at the time. And we were like, let's continue that problem going forward.
We loved it. We loved it when people lost their feet for no apparent reason.
And tonsils. And yes.

Speaker 1 I will say we've always been anti-tonsil here on the Glenn Beck program. It's been a big, it was a lot of fun.
I was mine taken out when I was like six. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Foundational principle of the show, honestly. We were like, what can we do that's different than what everyone else is doing? We're like, what if we're to take a strong stance against tonsils?

Speaker 1 And what about foot amputation? Are you for it? And we were all for it. We were like, oh, we all agreed.
Especially Glenn. Glenn was like, I want every person's feet to be removed.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 All of them. And piled up at intersections.
Yes. That was a big Glenn policy at the beginning of the show.

Speaker 1 And I think we won that battle for a long time until that dastardly Barack Obama came around and was like, no,

Speaker 1 I want people's feet to be attached to their legs so they can walk around. And stop taking tonsils out needlessly.
I know. We were like,

Speaker 1 what kind of position is that to take? Crazy. And somehow he won with his Obamacare, which solved all of our health care concerns, Pat, if you remember.

Speaker 1 And you remember when it went down $2,500 per year per family? What did you spend that $2,500 on? Do you remember? I don't remember now.

Speaker 1 Because what happened was it just became so routine to me saving the $2,500 every year. Year after year after year.
And I just kept spending and spending, spending. It's like Clark W.
Griswold.

Speaker 1 He just thought that bonus was part of his salary. And then they gave him the Jelly of the Month Club membership.
And he was very disappointed in that because he depended on it for part of his salary.

Speaker 1 He's going to put it in a new pool, Pat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 However, in this case,

Speaker 1 these doctors were depending on the foot amputation fees they were receiving. And then they dried up.
And then they just dried up.

Speaker 1 That's why so many doctors went out of business almost instantly.

Speaker 1 No doctors left in this country until Obamacare came and solved that problem, too.

Speaker 1 We had a lot of problems with our healthcare, Pat, until Obamacare came around. And as you remember, it was pitched to us as this big solution to all of our problems when it came to health care.

Speaker 1 Now it's made everything worse.

Speaker 1 Now it's made it. Well, first of all, it's made everything worse.
Prices have gone up. We never saw that $2,500 savings.
Still, feet and tonsils piled up all over the place.

Speaker 1 If you liked your doctor, it didn't matter to the government. If they didn't like your doctor, you couldn't keep your doctor.
No. So all of the promises of this were, of course, failures.

Speaker 1 What I find to be most interesting about all of this, Pat, though,

Speaker 1 is not that conservatives were completely right about basically every single aspect of this plan and how it was going to fail. What I find to be just

Speaker 1 wonderful

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 come back to sarcasm now, just wonderful,

Speaker 1 is the fact that the hardcore conservative position currently is,

Speaker 1 what if we just keep regular Obamacare?

Speaker 1 That's the right-wing position right now.

Speaker 1 And honestly, that's aspirational because it seems like the Senate and House and President are going to line up behind a deal that is going to allow the enhanced subsidies to continue for some

Speaker 1 concession. May I ask you a question in regards to this whole thing? I would love to hear it.
Don't we have a majority in Congress right now where we don't have to put up with this?

Speaker 1 Democrats have 80 senators. Oh, wow.
I'm pretty sure. Wow.
And they have 433 House members. They're all Democrats.
Wow. Apparently.
Huh. Because that is.

Speaker 1 It doesn't make any sense to me. How did this happen where

Speaker 1 they just don't do anything about it now? When they have the power to, they just don't. No, well, I mean,

Speaker 1 they act as if the John McCain thumbs down was the end of their ⁇ we just can't try anymore.

Speaker 1 John McCain said no in 2017. And so therefore, we could never address this problem ever again.
Wow. Because it would come off as mean.
People want their free money.

Speaker 1 And if we don't give them their free money, they won't have their free money. And Pat, you might say, well, what about, look, there are people who don't have enough money to afford health care.

Speaker 1 They're maybe poor

Speaker 1 on the lower income scale. And those people should have their Obamacare.
We should remind you, they're not on Obamacare. There's already a program for those people.
Those people are going Medicaid.

Speaker 1 That's a different program which exists. And by the way, is also not the conservative position to get rid of that.
Right. Or Medicare or any other program, apparently.
Social Security.

Speaker 1 None of these things are even considered by the right anymore to get rid of, despite the fact that it's obviously consistent with what we believe the government should be doing.

Speaker 1 We just ignore it and continue to pay out trillions of dollars for all these programs. But you might say, Pat, well, what about those

Speaker 1 enhanced subsidies? They must be very important. And to rewind a little bit here for people who maybe have not followed the back and forth of every part of this debate,

Speaker 1 Obamacare comes in.

Speaker 1 What we say is: hey, there's going to be problems with all these risk pools that you are creating because what you're asking to occur is that a bunch of healthy people are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of sick people.

Speaker 1 And a bunch of young people who are generally expected to be healthy are going to pay for the health care of a bunch of older people.

Speaker 1 And that's not right.

Speaker 1 They're not going to want to do that.

Speaker 1 You can't constitutionally force them to do it. They tried, but you can't constitutionally force them to do that.
That was overturned in the courts.

Speaker 1 So you're going to have a situation where younger people are going to be like, well, my rates keep going up and up and up and up and up, and I'm not even using this healthcare system.

Speaker 1 This seems like a problem to me. I'm no longer going to pay you for it.

Speaker 1 So the rate, now we have a bunch of sick people in a risk pool, and the rates keep going up.

Speaker 1 And then that means more healthy people drop out, and then the rates go up, and then more healthy people drop out, and then the rates go up, and then more healthy people.

Speaker 1 So now that's why the rates have gone through the roof over these years. This is why what you're feeling if you're in Obamacare is real.

Speaker 1 This is something very much predicted by every single critic of Obamacare. All that happened.
So we get into the COVID period. There's an emergency.

Speaker 1 And luckily for the Democrats, they are able to take advantage of emergencies. Someone once said, never let a crisis go to waste.

Speaker 1 So the way they did not let that crisis go to waste in this particular instance was to add enhanced subsidies on top of the already

Speaker 1 generous subsidies that the government gives people people to buy Obamacare, depending on your situation.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that was a bill passed in 2020, and maybe you could justify it, Pat, through 2021. Maybe that was justifiable.
Again,

Speaker 1 I tend to not like those approaches, but it was a crazy time. I think we can all look back at this.
Remember, Donald Trump was in office in 2020. A lot of Republicans voted for that too.

Speaker 1 But they voted for it for one year.

Speaker 1 One year. Hey, got a really tough time this year.

Speaker 1 Let's do this this year, and then we'll stop doing it after this year.

Speaker 1 What you may remember is, of course, Joe Biden was elected. He goes into office, and then he has a different opinion on what we should do.

Speaker 1 And they extend this from 2021 to 2025.

Speaker 1 So this is what leads to the shutdown. These extensions are now going away.
And enhanced subsidies means basically more free money on top of the free money already out of Obamacare.

Speaker 1 So what conservatives at that time were saying was, hey, let's be really conservative and put Obamacare into place. And then liberals are saying, no,

Speaker 1 Obamacare would be a disaster and hurt lots of families. What we need is a lot more money on top of Obamacare, an enhanced Obamacare, a new Coke Obamacare on top of it.

Speaker 1 And Republicans are like, oh, I want Obamacare Classic. That's legitimately what the argument was during the shutdown.

Speaker 1 Now, of course, the shutdown's passed, and Republicans are now admitting their actual position, which is we actually want to go to the enhanced subsidies for more time.

Speaker 1 And what do the enhanced subsidies mean? I don't know if people understand this because a lot of people think, oh, well, poor people need health care, they can't pay for it. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's not, that's Medicaid. Here's enhanced subsidies.

Speaker 1 Obama, how many people do you have in your family, Pat? You have, let's go back to you when you're. 300.

Speaker 1 About 300. No, I mean,

Speaker 1 in your direct family, in your household.

Speaker 1 Right now? 200 and 207.

Speaker 1 That's just the two of us now. You know, we've seen that.
I'm thinking, though, like when you have all your kids in the house, like they're all at school. So six total.
So eight.

Speaker 1 So let's use that as the example.

Speaker 1 So what Obamacare says is,

Speaker 1 I don't think your parents would be caught up. This would be dependents only, but I don't know how that would work.
But I think it's only, let's just count the six.

Speaker 1 Let's take you back to like you're in, your kids are in, you know, from high school down through grade school. They're all home.
Yep. You're putting them all in your

Speaker 1 Obamacare program. What Obamacare says, Obamacare Classic

Speaker 1 says that you should get free money for healthcare if you earn less than $172,600.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's Obamacare Classic.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 What the Obamacare. So if I make $171,000,

Speaker 1 I get these benefits.

Speaker 1 Yes. $172,600 or less.
Wow. Okay.
That's

Speaker 1 very poor. You make a little bit less than the U.S.
representatives, than the congressmen and senators.

Speaker 1 Because they make, what, $175?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah.
Now, the enhanced subsidies, they have different programs, so that is interesting. It's an interesting line.

Speaker 1 The enhanced, so what, now enhanced subsidies are all different and everything else.

Speaker 1 The income side, the restriction. Now, this is the restriction.

Speaker 1 What Republicans are saying is, hey, we can't make this like unlimited because what the enhanced subsidies did, this basically took away a a lot of the limits.

Speaker 1 What Republicans are saying, we need a conservative approach.

Speaker 1 Okay. So the conservatives are stepping up and they're saying, hey,

Speaker 1 it's ridiculous. $172,000

Speaker 1 Obamacare, that would be insane to implement that sort of limit. What we suggest as conservatives is a limit of $302,000

Speaker 1 and $50 for that family of six. You should be able to...

Speaker 1 For Obamacare? Obamacare subsidies should apply to a family making $300,000 a year. Gosh.
Which is a lot of money. I have not heard that.
It's insane. Yeah.
And that's what we're coming back with.

Speaker 1 We're saying, hey, guys, sure, we'll give you these enhanced subsidies for a couple of years, but we got to limit the income to $300,000 for a family of six. Come on.
We're conservatives after all.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wow.
Now,

Speaker 1 a lot of this is political. What they are saying is they don't want to be responsible for people having their health care bills go up.
They know what the media is going to say.

Speaker 1 They know what Democrats are going to say. And what they're doing, to be clear, is

Speaker 1 folding. They're cowards.
Folding to this pressure.

Speaker 1 They're in the majority, keep in mind. Yes.
Republicans are the majority in the House and in the Senate. And they're still caving in like this? Unreal.
What do the Democrats want?

Speaker 1 What is their demand? They want it to be higher and more unlimited, right? They don't want the limits. Wow.
There are no limits on income. You know, off the top of my head, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 There are some instances. I think there are limits.
I thought, if I'm remembering right, and it's been a couple weeks since I did a monologue on Studios America about this.

Speaker 1 If you want to go back and... and nerd out on the details of the program.
But off the top of my head, I remember they removed the limits because of the COVID thing and then extended that.

Speaker 1 So it was a situation. And now most people who are making this type of money are in the Obamacare program.

Speaker 1 Most people have jobs and are not in, and they're getting their healthcare through the employer, which is, by the way, a whole other set of problems.

Speaker 1 That would be something that would be great if we could solve. And maybe Republicans could come up with a plan that addresses core parts of this program.

Speaker 1 I think the issue here is they just are afraid whatever they do is going to come off as mean, and so they're just not going to do anything.

Speaker 1 They're going to try to limit the damage of a program they say they don't like. But honestly, I don't know what evidence there is of that at this point.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Incredible.

Speaker 1 That's terrible, frankly. You know, we,

Speaker 1 we should be proposing something that is dynamic and new and different, that changes this system, actually solves these problems for people long term.

Speaker 1 But I don't think it's a huge priority of anybody in Congress or anybody in Washington, Frank. Obviously not.
Wow.

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Speaker 1 All of this stuff, it's Pat and Stuffer Glad this week. All of this stuff that has been put in place for because of the pandemic,

Speaker 1 it's not just health care, it's not just Obamacare subsidies.

Speaker 1 It was voting

Speaker 1 situations too. The drop boxes were put out so that you didn't have to be around a bunch of people at the polling place.

Speaker 1 A lot of mail-in

Speaker 1 new mail-in restrictions or non-restrictions. They opened that up because of the pandemic.
And we can't get rid of any of it now because the Democrats cry about it every single time.

Speaker 1 And then, if you change any of it,

Speaker 1 we were thinking that we wouldn't have Toyota Corollas owned by government employees driving around and picking up ballots in packs of 300 from each household.

Speaker 1 If you want to limit that program, then you hate democracy. Right.
So you can't do it. And so there's been very little pushback.
Some states have curbed some of it, but

Speaker 1 not in impressive ways.

Speaker 1 I think at times we lose track as to how damaging that period was. Obviously, a lot of people died, right? There's, you know, there's a lot of

Speaker 1 the first-level concerns, but how much damage was done through the COVID period. But to our republic,

Speaker 1 it really hurt us. Another example of this, and I'm convinced of this largely, I could potentially theoretically be wrong on it, so I will admit that, but I'm pretty convinced of this.

Speaker 1 There's a chart that's been going around, you probably saw it, Pat, that showed home ownership for first-time homebuyers.

Speaker 1 And it shows a dramatic increase. And people are like, since you know, since we were kids,

Speaker 1 the numbers changed from like 32 to 40 for first-time homebuyers. You talked about this on Pack Ray Unleashed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's a big thing. And it is a real problem.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 1 looking at the data, I'm pretty convinced that the problem is almost exclusively from COVID. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because when you look at it, that 32-year-old first-time buyer holds from the time, and I was in high school all the way till 2019. It's 32.

Speaker 1 You know, it bounces up to 33, down to 29 or whatever, a couple times in that range, you know, over a long period of time, but it stays really consistent right around that 32 number until 2019.

Speaker 1 And then it shoots almost straight up to 40. And if you think about what happened with COVID, right?

Speaker 1 You're in a house, you have really low rates, you've got your 3% mortgage, COVID hits,

Speaker 1 and everyone stays inside. A lot of people lose their job.

Speaker 1 All sorts of weird effects happen. And then you come out of that.
And then there's a bunch of people who are have,

Speaker 1 some of them have extra money because they've been flooded with money from the government for certain purposes.

Speaker 1 The markets go crazy. A lot of people have extra cash.
Some of them spend it on real estate. The prices start going up.

Speaker 1 And then, because of the inflation that occurs from the answers to COVID, the Inflation Reduction Act, the American Rescue Bill, that whole thing, the Joe Biden spending spree that occurs in 2021 and into 2022, we get the inflation that turns into Bidenflation that winds up raising these rates.

Speaker 1 So now you have a situation where the economy is rough,

Speaker 1 everything's way more expensive,

Speaker 1 you have all sorts of pressures when it comes to jobs and all these other things.

Speaker 1 And you're now looking at the house. If you are in a house with a 3% mortgage, you're never leaving it.
So there's not as much supply on the market for people to buy.

Speaker 1 Because now if you're going to refinance and go to a new house, you're going to pay twice or more of the mortgage.

Speaker 1 And then people that want to get into a house are looking at these houses and are saying, well, I can't afford a good enough house with this much money because the interest is too high.

Speaker 1 And that's, I think, the main part of why that chart has skyrocketed over the past couple years. Glenn Beck

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Speaker 1 This is pretty exciting. It looks like Ukraine has agreed to some kind of deal.
We don't know if it's the 28-point plan that President Trump proposed.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's the alteration from the European Union,

Speaker 1 but they've come away saying, yeah, we've agreed on the essence of a peace agreement. At least the U.S.
and Ukraine have agreed on that agreement. Now, Putin's not part of that.

Speaker 1 Russia's not part of that yet. But what's not to like for them? I mean,

Speaker 1 it's a pretty good plan, seemingly, for Russia. They get 20%.

Speaker 1 of Ukraine's territory.

Speaker 1 And just to stop there for one second, Pat, it's more territory than they currently have.

Speaker 1 So basically, like even the stuff that Ukraine has protected successfully all this time, they have to give up a big chunk of that

Speaker 1 and let Russia get past some really important strategic lines. I'm really surprised they're agreeing to.
And I guess they're agreeing to.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. Maybe they altered that.

Speaker 1 But it is very ⁇ we've had these situations before, and this is, I think, part of the Trump

Speaker 1 foreign policy

Speaker 1 approach, is to say, hey, we agreed. agreed, and then let everyone come out and say, wait, what are you talking about? And pressure them essentially into it.

Speaker 1 Some of that might be happening here, though. Ukraine has come out and said,

Speaker 1 We have. We've agreed to something.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 1 every side is saying outside, except for Russia, we've agreed to something. We don't know what is in that something.

Speaker 1 We think it's based on this 28-point plan, but we don't actually know that yet. Which included the 20% of Ukrainian territory.
It included Russia rejoining the G7, which would then be the G8 again.

Speaker 1 And it included Ukraine limiting their army in some way to a certain number that I guess would be agreed upon between them.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it's like a big reduction in their army and that they can never join NATO. Now that that was kind of agreed upon by us a long time ago.
A long time ago.

Speaker 1 I have very little sympathy for Russia's arguments in most of this. We did pretty much mislead them on that.
We did. Meaning the United States back in the day.

Speaker 1 And I've used the example that how would we feel if it was Cuba, if Cuba was joining the Soviet Union in some sort of military pact? I mean, we'd be,

Speaker 1 we went through that, essentially, when they were, you know, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we didn't appreciate it. And we let them know.
Yeah. And we put a stop to it.

Speaker 1 You know, certainly differences. And there always are differences in these situations.
But But I mean, I think that was a more imminent threat than what Ukraine was

Speaker 1 proposing towards Russia at that time. Again, Russia did not need to invade Ukraine, and I do believe that they are the most wrong in this particular conflict.

Speaker 1 That does not mean Ukraine is perfect and that I love everybody and their leadership, but... Well, you need to.
I do? Yeah, you really do.

Speaker 1 There was a time in which that did seem to be the case. If you did not love everybody and Ukraine's leadership.
If you weren't flying a Ukrainian flag, you were a traitor.

Speaker 1 You know, I never changed a profile picture on that one there. No, I haven't either.
No, no, no, I never did. You know, but that being said, I am surprised.

Speaker 1 If what they agreed to is what was reported, it's pretty amazing. I'm surprised they agreed to it.
I am.

Speaker 1 I am too. It is a complete

Speaker 1 capitulation to Russia.

Speaker 1 I don't know why Russia wouldn't agree to it, other than the fact that Russia actually wants the entire country, and that's what they were going for initially.

Speaker 1 And maybe they think Ukraine is in such a weak position they can get it. I don't know.
And they must be, right? Because

Speaker 1 why would you agree to this? It's not good for them.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 think they should agree

Speaker 1 to something that,

Speaker 1 you know, my, you know, my thought was: I don't know, maybe we're where the lines are now. Why are they getting additional territory? That's what I thought.
That's completely insane. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 And I think it's completely insane, too, for the country that got invaded to have to cut their military. Yeah.
Like, that is, that's the type of agreement you make when you're surrendering.

Speaker 1 Yes. Not one you make in a pea in a quote-unquote peace negotiation, which the surrender is largely potentially at least based on the fact that, you know, maybe we maybe we didn't say

Speaker 1 the Biden standard of anything you want. Anytime you want.
Anytime you want for as long as you want is going to be upheld.

Speaker 1 And I think that's something we should have said to them privately a long time ago. Hey, just so you know, in one year from today, in six months from today, this is all going away from us.

Speaker 1 So you better figure a way out of this. And that might be what Trump did.
You know,

Speaker 1 this can't be eternal support. It must have been because

Speaker 1 they clearly are in a much different position right now than they were before.

Speaker 1 In fact, an official in Zelensky's office said that if the deal was the framework from Geneva, we're okay with it. It's not a bad framework to work further.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that included all the things we just talked about, the framework from Geneva. In fact, the European framework was even worse than what President Trump proposed.
Really? I don't think I saw that.

Speaker 1 What was the European framework?

Speaker 1 It had more restrictions on them and

Speaker 1 more concessions for them. I don't remember all the specific details,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 they seemed to be even more hardcore than the 28 points that Trump proposed. Wow.
Yeah. I mean, there's no way Zelensky survives signing that deal.
No way.

Speaker 1 I don't mean that physically, but I mean that in a leadership position. Like

Speaker 1 his country is not going to stand for it. And is there any, I mean, Russia is not going to stand for it probably either.

Speaker 1 No, they want him gone. Yeah, they want him gone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about this, Pat? Because

Speaker 1 I'm a little nervous that we're giving up on our anything you want, anytime you want, for as long as you want philosophy.

Speaker 1 What if for every mile they lose in territory to Russia, we give them those square miles in the United States? We just make. I'm surprised that hasn't been proposed.

Speaker 1 So far, I don't think it has. Like, we give them Alaska or at least part of it.
Or

Speaker 1 it's cold. Is that too cold? Yeah.
Hawaii. You want to give them Hawaii.

Speaker 1 Or maybe a little of each. Like, what if we give them half of Alaska and like several islands in.

Speaker 1 We don't need all of those islands in Hawaii and they need a place to vacation true it's really cold in Ukraine yeah so this time of year why don't we do that that's a good idea I think that's probably a legitimate way of going so you give them half of Alaska which would be about the size of Texas

Speaker 1 and then some of the Hawaiian islands yeah like we have a draft I think like you know first pick maybe is Maui then Oahu goes then then the big island you just go through the main thing okay and I think if we go through a draft and I think it's a snake draft.

Speaker 1 So whoever gets the first pick also gets the second and third. And we just select the islands that way.
Well, look, that's fair. We've got 50 states right now.
Do we need 50?

Speaker 1 We don't need all of them. We don't need them all.
You know, maybe it's really greedy of us. You know, that's probably right.
Maybe we just give them their pick of five states,

Speaker 1 whichever ones you want.

Speaker 1 You know, and hopefully they don't take advantage of us, you know, and go after. They'd probably take California, Texas.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 California might actually run better under the the Ukrainian government than Kevin Newsom. So that one might be an improvement.

Speaker 1 New York.

Speaker 1 What would you pick? Florida? I'd pick up. I'd probably go after Florida.
That's probably the first ones I'd take. And then Idaho.
Maybe we do. You got to get Idaho.
Like the NBA does.

Speaker 1 It'll have protected picks. There's certain states we can protect.
We're not giving up. We're not going to go have Florida.
We're not going to go up Texas. Florida.

Speaker 1 It's right in the middle of the country. Right.
But they can, you know, I just, it's unfair. It's unfair that we have not, we will not provide them anything until eternity.

Speaker 1 Anything they want.

Speaker 1 It's such an interesting question, Pat, because as an American, what I care about most is America and the citizens of America.

Speaker 1 Kind of selfish.

Speaker 1 You don't care about Ukraine more than America? Not more.

Speaker 1 I will say. As much? Do you care about them as much?

Speaker 1 Because you're supposed to. I mean, I care about people living and dying, but my policy as

Speaker 1 a government, if that's my role in this particular conversation, is to put American interests first.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's a lot of, you say America first, and it means a lot of things to a lot of people. I will say it's been used in very bad ways in history, that particular phrase.

Speaker 1 But it is, of course, a very logical position for a country to have. Now, I am not of the, there's a new kind of addition to that, America only, which I am not

Speaker 1 a fan of.

Speaker 1 Not my view. I don't, you know, as a person of faith, I don't think everyone,

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't come to a place where I think everyone in every other country asks through them. I'm like, that's not what I'm,

Speaker 1 I just don't find that to be a position that is consistent with other beliefs that I have.

Speaker 1 That being said, it is not as a government policy, we should be trying to do the best things that we can.

Speaker 1 And I believe the best thing that we can for our country in this period is to make sure that this conflict does not end up with nuclear weapons flying all over the globe.

Speaker 1 That's really what I'm really concerned about. And I'm less concerned about it today with President Trump in office, and that I think that he is

Speaker 1 more confident in his level of leadership than I was in the last president. I was legitimately scared.
I thought it was underplayed as a risk

Speaker 1 as to how close we were with our president coming out and saying, I'll give, hey, hey, other nuclear superpower, we will give anything that they want for any amount of time that they want in perpetuity to your opponent in war is not a stance that could lead to calm.

Speaker 1 And I was worried that that could spiral out of control. I'm a little bit less worried about it now, but still, I think it's the main thing that we would like to avoid.

Speaker 1 And so ending this conflict, to me, as an American, I really, at this point, don't care all that much about a few miles here and there of territory because that's my priority.

Speaker 1 However, if I happen happen to be a Ukrainian citizen, if I were a Ukrainian talk show host, they're going to have some problems with it. I would have massive problems with this.

Speaker 1 A Ukrainian official deeply involved, this says, with the ceasefire negotiations,

Speaker 1 said that the United States appears to have agreed to the document set out by Europe's allies in Geneva over the weekend, and it's not the U.S. plan.

Speaker 1 That's interesting.

Speaker 1 So that's not surprising, though, right? Like, I don't think the U.S. plan could stand up to

Speaker 1 Ukraine.

Speaker 1 I give Trump a lot of credit for getting a starting point. This is what happens usually.
Like, no one says anything because they're like, oh, well, they never accept that. So we never do anything.

Speaker 1 Trump is like, no, let's just put a proposal down and make them disagree.

Speaker 1 He does this all over the world, and it's worked all over the world.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing. Like, if you come in and you want to buy a building that they don't necessarily want to sell, you put it, make an offer.
Right. And like make make them tell you no.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't want this offer. What I want is this.
And then you have something, right? You have a beginning point and an end point, and you try to find a place in the middle.

Speaker 1 That's what he does all over the globe, and it has worked many times. Will it work here? I don't know.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 1 But I don't, it seems to me hard to believe that the Ukrainians could possibly accept a situation where they lose more land than they've already lost and shrink their military at the same time.

Speaker 1 That's just inviting another invasion as soon as they build their military up again in Russia. I just don't know how they can accept that.

Speaker 1 There is speculation that they're just plain running out of people

Speaker 1 to fight this war. Outside of a real surrender, which might be where they are.
Yeah, it might be. But that's not at least where

Speaker 1 the war nerds that have all the maps out, they're not necessarily saying that.

Speaker 1 The people who really study this on a day-to-day basis, the think tanks that are looking at

Speaker 1 the lines of control and really monitoring over the minutiae of this, they don't say, they say more stalemate than they say

Speaker 1 Russia's about to win and overtake the country. It's more likely.
I don't think they want to admit the reality. And I think the reality is closer to Russia's about to win this thing.
You think?

Speaker 1 I think so. I think it's

Speaker 1 the long term. I agree with you.
I don't know that it's imminent, but if you think if you

Speaker 1 if the writing's on the wall eventually,

Speaker 1 well, then I suppose maybe save some lives. And

Speaker 1 if you can cut, cut, if you can get real security lines built up. And that's been my argument from the the beginning.

Speaker 1 If you like, I don't mind helping Ukraine, but with sales of defenses there to make sure that line is so impossible to cross next time

Speaker 1 that it is, you know, those lines are really built up. So these don't move again.
I don't mind being supportive to them on that because they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 Russia shouldn't be rolling over every one of them. No, they should not.
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Speaker 1 We're just going over this peace plan. It looks like it's a little different than

Speaker 1 President Trump proposed. He proposed a 28-point plan.
This is, I guess, there's got some

Speaker 1 similarities to it, but it's not completely that. Yeah, and so much of the back and forth gets really, really difficult to understand because you have to go really deep and understand

Speaker 1 centuries of history to really put in perspective both sides' positions. But to try try to boil it down, if you don't understand this at that level,

Speaker 1 basically, Ukraine is a country in Europe. Okay.
And it exists next to another country called Russia. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now, Russia is a bigger country. Than Ukraine is.

Speaker 1 Russia is a powerful country. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Really? And Russia decided to invade

Speaker 1 a smaller country called Ukraine. That doesn't seem fair or right.

Speaker 1 So basically,

Speaker 1 that's wrong.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So my intuition on that was correct.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely. It was wrong for this to happen.
It was wrong for this to happen.

Speaker 1 Now, again. That's what I was thinking in the first place.
I've had to go deep into policy papers and foreign affairs think tanks to get that information. Right.

Speaker 1 Because that's some pretty deep stuff. It was something that you may have remembered Kamala Harris saying.
Ukraine is a country in Europe. See? You remember that? The see? No, you were right.

Speaker 1 So that was part of

Speaker 1 my basis for that. So that's where you got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's not your own thinking. That came from Kamala Harris.
I mean, because I was really impressed for a minute. I like to think I'm a smart guy, but I'm not that smart.
No, no. Very few are.

Speaker 1 Very few.

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Speaker 1 It looks like we were talking about the potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia. It looks like

Speaker 1 while we're finalizing the details of this with Ukraine,

Speaker 1 Russia is apparently unlikely to accept the changes in the new peace plan to end the war. Oh, okay.
Well, there you go. Yeah,

Speaker 1 probably not going to happen.

Speaker 1 They don't want to give up anything, basically.

Speaker 1 And their proposal, which some people argued was essentially what Trump was floating.

Speaker 1 And by the way, even if he was just floating their proposal, it's still a positive move towards peace.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't...

Speaker 1 Try.

Speaker 1 It would be my argument. Try.

Speaker 1 And he has been trying. He has been trying.
Hard. And he has hard.
I, but I, Russia's demands were so extreme, it didn't seem like they'd be agreeing to anything like this. Wow.

Speaker 1 But I think, again, the other side of this is true, too. Trump and the Trump side coming out and saying, hey, we've agreed

Speaker 1 is the same thing he did in

Speaker 1 Israel, right? Like it was like, oh, we've all agreed. It's all over.
Yeah. And so now everyone has to scramble to try to push back against that, which again is better than what we had yesterday.

Speaker 1 It puts pressure on them.

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Yeah.

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Every single minute. Every game?

Speaker 1 Wow, that's hard to do. That's hard to do.
You know, not for me. No, because I have a huge passion for watching mediocre basketball.
Oh, yeah. Who doesn't? You know, it's

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Right. Like, I'm not interested in being the best in the world, for example.

Speaker 1 What I'm interested in in is that if you take out, you know, say the top 20 million people in the world,

Speaker 1 maybe 50, maybe 100 million people,

Speaker 1 and you say, hey, who's best after that?

Speaker 1 That's where I am. That's where you are.

Speaker 1 That's where my interest starts peaking, right? Right around there. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 It really is.

Speaker 1 You know, there's been a little bit of a squabble over the last week or so because

Speaker 1 NBA players Michael Porter Jr. and Lonzo Ball, Ball, along with former pro LeAngelo Ball,

Speaker 1 shot down some claims from WNBA star Paige Buchers. Now, Paige said

Speaker 1 she could beat NBA player Josh Hart in a one-on-one competition. That is literally impossible.
Fascinating. Maybe if you had, maybe if Barack Obama was right and they amputated his feet.

Speaker 1 I don't know about even then.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I really don't.

Speaker 1 He might on pegs be able to

Speaker 1 still beat Paige Buchers. And I'm joking at some level here, but like, Paige Buchers is incredible.
Like, she's an incredible player. And, you know, she is an amazing athlete.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of great things to say. That does not mean she could beat an NBA player in one of the wild.
No way. No way.
And that's what they said. You know, it just, no, that's silly.

Speaker 1 And so they're getting a bunch of flack, whereas then Sophie Cunningham from the Indiana Fever came out and agreed with them. And, you know, she's just speaking truth here.

Speaker 1 And you know, she's going to get hammered for it by her. She doesn't seem to care, though.
She doesn't. No, I like that.
I do too. She's just like, I'm just going to say what I believe.

Speaker 1 I like her because

Speaker 1 she will do that. And she defended

Speaker 1 what's her face when she was under fire, you know, in a game. Caitlin Clark.
Caitlin Clark. Yeah.
She's like, I'm going to step up for her no matter what. And she does.
And she does.

Speaker 1 And she said, this is my personal opinion, but if you're a professional football player, basketball player, you're in that elite level group, then yes, you should be able to beat girls.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not surprised by that. So she was saying a high school male,

Speaker 1 if he's,

Speaker 1 you know, on the way to the NBA, could beat a current WNBA player. Yes.
And I think that's obviously true, right? Like,

Speaker 1 you know, BYU just got A.J. DeBonsa last year, and he's playing now now this year.
So he was the best player in high school.

Speaker 1 That kid could have easily beaten any WNBA player. I don't care who it is.

Speaker 1 He would beat them.

Speaker 1 And I think that's just obvious, right? And I guess you're not supposed to say it now. And you know, she's going to get flack from

Speaker 1 other members of the WNBA, but it's just true. She's going to get pounded for telling the truth.
But it doesn't make any sense to try to claim otherwise.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've seen it play out in all kinds of sports, tennis, soccer.

Speaker 1 I don't know that WNBA players have ever played anybody in the NBA. That would just be ridiculous.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 ridiculous. Again, these are skilled athletes.
Like, they can do things and incredible things.

Speaker 1 And, like, you know, if we did a two-on-two, Pat Grace Dubergere versus Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark, we would beat us back. Very dramatically.
Yes, we probably wouldn't score a point.

Speaker 1 But when you're talking about skilled athletes, it's not to say that no woman at any level can beat any male at any level. That's not what we're saying.

Speaker 1 And I think Lonzo Ball made this point in that podcast. Like his team of ninth graders would be able to beat any WA NBA team.
And now, again, he's probably a very good.

Speaker 1 That really pisses them off. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I don't think, I think it's, I don't even know if we've hit the limit. What's the limit? Like, I've talked to people.
The problem is physicality. Yeah.
Right? Like, you can't,

Speaker 1 like, if you've ever played a basketball and you're against someone who's, you know, tiny and skinny and is not, like, the difference between a fully developed male physique, even in high school,

Speaker 1 is so dramatically different than what you're going to get out of a female athlete, even in the WNBA. And that's the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 You're going to be able to bully them around and get rebates.

Speaker 1 Again, unless you're having some sort of curve where the refs are calling things they wouldn't normally call, you're going to be able to just get to the ball.

Speaker 1 All these rebounds dominate things. It's going to be impossible for them to get rebounds.

Speaker 1 You know, that's just one part of it. There's quickness differences.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I think even when you're talking Division II and Division III type athletes, like I have, I have someone who I know who played Division III basketball, and

Speaker 1 he said, look,

Speaker 1 our Division III team would beat WNBA teams. And he's like, the problem with it is just you'd be able to back them down so easily because you're just a lot stronger.

Speaker 1 Even Division II and III type athletes, again, those are very talented people as well. It's hard to get to play in Division II and Division III.
It's not like you're without skill.

Speaker 1 You're probably the best player in your high school team. It's like an all-star team of that in most areas.
I don't know what the line is exactly. I think it would be fascinating to find out.

Speaker 1 I don't know why, like, why can't we just, why doesn't, why don't we just do this?

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Yeah, right.
Like, there,

Speaker 1 have the WNBA champion play an NBA team. Do you know, yeah.
Let's see it. Let's just, let's see it.
I think we even start.

Speaker 1 Do you know, do you know Dude Perfect? Yeah. The

Speaker 1 YouTubers. So they do, you know, famous for trick shots and, you know, comedy videos and all sorts of different things.
But they did one that my son was watching. This is a few months ago.

Speaker 1 And one of the guys in Dude Perfect did a challenge where he had to get a hit off of an increasingly difficult level of pitcher.

Speaker 1 Now, he's a good athlete, like Tyler is the guy who did it, but he's a good athlete. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 he, you know, but he's not a professional baseball player. So they started off with him versus a little league pitcher, and they kept escalating it.

Speaker 1 And like they needed a high school pitcher, I think, and then a

Speaker 1 college pitcher. and then a major major league pitcher.
They went to,

Speaker 1 I think it was Texas Rangers camp a couple of years ago and did this. And so he starts off, obviously, no problem, hitting off off of an eight-year-old or whatever.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, it's for comedic value, like some of them are really easy. But as you get up in the level, you're facing a high school pitcher and then a college pitcher.

Speaker 1 And guys throwing like, you know, low 80s, and can he get a hit off of that person? And then he goes up against who was the closer at the time, the Rangers. But like, it was really interesting to see.

Speaker 1 He wound up getting a hit off of a little bloop single off of the closer of the Rangers, which is pretty impressive, honestly. Yeah, it is.
It would be hard to do. But like that being said,

Speaker 1 this you want to talk about a way to bring in some real revenue to women's sports. I would be absolutely glued to the television if they started a WNBA.
It starts off with them playing a rec team

Speaker 1 of like eight-year-olds. And it just slowly, every week ramps up.
I would watch every episode of it. If they didn't find that insulting, it would be fun to watch.
It would be fun.

Speaker 1 You know, they would never do it, but it'd be fun. Why? You know how much money they'd make?

Speaker 1 Probably more than their salaries in the WNBA. Put it on pay-per-view.

Speaker 3 I'd watch.

Speaker 1 I'd pay.

Speaker 1 When you got to the point where, and I think the risk of all of this would be they would select teams. They would, there probably be things said behind the scenes.
Hey, don't do,

Speaker 1 don't go so hard. Let them win.
God only knows what they would do to protect this idiocy of Billie Gene King that we're all supposed to still act as if was real.

Speaker 1 The whole thing,

Speaker 1 you know, the guy, you know, Billie Gene King in that match, What was the guy's name?

Speaker 1 God, Bobby Bobby

Speaker 1 Riggs. Oh, gosh.
I'm sorry. I can't think of it off the top of my head.
Look that up real quick.

Speaker 1 Billie Jean King in that rap. You know, he's like 50-something years old.
Yeah, he was. I think he was 54.
I mean, 54 years old. She was in the prime of her career.

Speaker 1 Her career. Like, yes.
Yeah. Very possible.
And by the way, this goes without... It's so questionable about how that went down.
No, it's not Bobby Fisher. That's the

Speaker 1 chess player.

Speaker 1 I didn't say look up any name with Bobby in it. I'm looking for the actual person who went up against Billie Gene King in the famous match.
Bobby Riggs. Bobby Riggs.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he actually did lose to Billie Gene King, but like a month or two before that, he beat the number one player in the world, Margaret Court. Which gets him really

Speaker 1 bad about whether he was trying in the Dutch. I don't know that he was.
I don't either. Because there's been some speculation.

Speaker 1 Lots of speculation. More than speculation that he kind of threw that.
But anyway, we do have other examples of it. I mean, Serena Williams talked about it,

Speaker 1 that she would lose to Andy Murray, who at the time, when she was on the Letterman show, and

Speaker 1 so this was years ago, but she was number one in the world. And Letterman was asking about her playing the number one man in the world because I guess there was some talk about this.

Speaker 1 And she said, I would never do that because Andy Murray would beat me 0-0. I might not score a point, and it would take five minutes, maybe 10.
She said, it's just a different game that the men play.

Speaker 1 They're stronger, they're faster, the ball comes at you way faster, and they're more athletic. And so, you know, you look at soccer, the world of soccer, the best team in the world, the U.S.

Speaker 1 women's national team, played against

Speaker 1 teenagers multiple times, including here in Dallas. They played against a Dallas team of under 14.
I think it was under 15. So it's 13 and 14 and maybe some 15-year-olds.
And they lost five to two.

Speaker 1 They played against the Wrexham team in England during some kind of tournament. And they had to stop the game because it was 12 to nothing.
And it was embarrassing to the women's national team.

Speaker 1 I mean, they can't compete with the men. It just...
It's a real thing that exists. There are differences between men and women.

Speaker 1 And you're not supposed to notice it anymore or acknowledge it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's there and we're different.

Speaker 2 And this is not important because we,

Speaker 1 hey, we're dunking on a bunch of women, either literally or figuratively. Like, that's not what the point of this is.
The point of this is, we as a society have lost the ability to say true things.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Right. When everyone knows something is true, every piece of evidence points one way.
And we will have a controversy as to whether it's true or not.

Speaker 1 Why does this happen? I know we're

Speaker 1 the internet has made us dumber, but at the end of the day, we all know certain things are true.

Speaker 1 And the fact that we can't without with all of this evidence can't get the other side to admit this basic fact. How do you negotiate a health care policy?

Speaker 1 How do you negotiate what is right when it comes to tax rates with a side that won't admit the most basic obvious thing in the world that everyone knows is true.

Speaker 1 Why won't, why can't we, if you can't bridge a gap like this, this is why I think this is such a fascinating topic. If you can't bridge a gap like this,

Speaker 1 what conversation can you have? Right. You can't have a rational conversation with people who can't admit this type of stuff.

Speaker 1 Because of what?

Speaker 1 And these things... permeate our politics in real ways.

Speaker 1 Like the same instinct that makes the media act as if the WNBA players could beat the NBA players, That same instinct is the same instinct that says, well, we can't admit that a woman who says he's a man is really a woman.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
Because we may make them feel bad or whatever. They don't belong in a women's locker room.
Right. You can't admit that.

Speaker 1 We can't say, hey, it's wrong for a guy to have his junk out in front of a bunch of women because he's saying he's a woman. We can't make that judgment.

Speaker 1 If you can't make judgments based on really obvious things, things that the women in the locker room would say were really obvious,

Speaker 1 you really can't make any judgment as to what you're saying. What can you agree on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 If you can't agree on basic truths, you can't have basic conversations.

Speaker 1 And these are really obvious things that everyone knows. Everyone, including the left, everybody there, everyone on the left knows this is true.
Everyone knows NBA Politics

Speaker 1 that it's not true.

Speaker 1 They'll lie to you

Speaker 1 and tell you it's not true. They'll lie to you and tell you they think that dude who just said they're a chick today is a chick.
They'll tell you that. They don't actually believe it.
They're lying.

Speaker 1 And if you can't bridge that gap, you can't have any conversations of value at all. Triple 8-727-BECK or in one minute.

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Speaker 1 And I'll tell you another thing that's bugging me right now.

Speaker 1 And that's the press trying to make a big deal out of some health problem that apparently doesn't exist with President Trump. Have you noticed that

Speaker 1 he was just out with his grandson over the weekend, showing him around the White House, and they were snapping photos of him and saying that he was dragging his left leg.

Speaker 1 They've been doing, they've been trying this for a long time.

Speaker 2 A long time.

Speaker 1 And then you go to the video and they included the video, and he's not dragging his left leg. Looks totally normal.

Speaker 1 It's completely normal. I don't know how they get away with this stuff continually.
These are the same people

Speaker 1 who for four years.

Speaker 1 I don't even have to finish, right? It's for four years of the Biden administration swore up and down that he was perfectly fine. Totally fine.
He's an incredible specimen.

Speaker 1 Now they've all admitted it now. Yes.
Now? Now that it's over, they all say, oh, yeah, obviously.

Speaker 1 Disaster decrepit in every way, including mentally. Total catastrophe.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the same people who also were critical of Republicans for pointing out that Hillary Clinton was having health issues. Oh, yeah.
Which, by the way, she was.

Speaker 1 They weren't as

Speaker 1 terminal is not the right word for Biden, but that's the one I want to use.

Speaker 1 Pronounced as it may be as long-lasting or whatever it was with Hillary, but she did have a real bout with something. Obviously, she was collapsing, trying to get into a car.

Speaker 1 And the coughing and all of that speeches. She had a rough batch.

Speaker 1 Look, that's totally

Speaker 1 fine to talk about that. You can bring up, if you think, that Donald Trump has a health pro problem.

Speaker 1 What's really frustrating to me about it is the same thing we talked about when it comes to political violence, and the same thing we talked about about the DOJ going after their enemies.

Speaker 1 They are asking us to completely forget everything we know about them, everything that they've said over the past decade about how their,

Speaker 1 it was off limits to go after a president's health. Like now we're just supposed to totally forget it.
Yeah. They didn't say any of that stuff.
What if we act as if none of those days occurred?

Speaker 1 And they keep demanding this out of us.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And to try to make some sort of health issue out of President Trump walking just normally with his grandson is just, it's so pathetic and

Speaker 1 so disingenuous. It's surprising that they provide the video.
I guess they think that if they put that in your head initially, that he's dragging his leg. And if there's any sort of

Speaker 1 movement that isn't exactly what you think it's going to be, then you'll think, yeah, he's dragging his leg.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe they think they can subliminally tell you that.
Yeah. But then you see the evidence that he's not.
It's, it's frustrating. It's a bizarre situation.

Speaker 1 I'd also say, look, President Trump, I don't know President Trump's health exactly. I don't think any of us do, but I will, you know, he's a man in his 70s.
79. He's 79 years old.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's, I wouldn't say, in the in perfect physical shape. That being said, I think it's really impressive how much and how the energy level that he has

Speaker 1 on a day-to-day basis. The guy rarely sleeps.
I don't know. More energy than I do.
Oh, way more.

Speaker 1 Wait, why did you say that so convincingly? You were very convinced that I have no energy, it seems there.

Speaker 1 Which is fair. Yeah.
Which is fair. It's just nonsense.
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Speaker 1 Excited about it. Can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself.

Speaker 1 What? What?

Speaker 1 What? You can't

Speaker 1 please everyone. So you got to please yourself.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Went to a garden party? Ricky Nelson.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Is this general advice for the holidays?

Speaker 1 Just generally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just a good safety tip.
You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. I think that goes with the Megan Trader story, right?

Speaker 1 Megan Traynor is getting all kinds of flack right now, all kinds of hate online because she's the singer, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Because she lost weight. Oh, no.
And people are pissed off about it. And she's like, how dare you? Well, I'm just trying to take care of myself and my body.
Is that,

Speaker 1 why would you have a problem with that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, please, everyone.

Speaker 1 You got to please yourself.

Speaker 1 There is something where they're like in pop culture, I guess, there is a weird ownership that fans seem to think they have over the people who are celebrities.

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 1 Did you watch the John Candy documentary that came out recently?

Speaker 1 It's on Prime. Did you guys see that? I don't think I have.
It's called...

Speaker 1 I like me,

Speaker 1 which is a line from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, I believe. Oh.

Speaker 1 and they go through the history, you know, John Candy and his rise, and, you know, his untimely death. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 Wait, John Candy died? Well, wait, hold on. Well,

Speaker 1 he's very sick. Okay.
And now

Speaker 1 we've lost him.

Speaker 1 Just like that? Yeah, I'm sorry. Wow.
That happened quickly. But he seems like the great, like everyone thought he was the greatest guy of all time, basically.

Speaker 1 The entire documentary is, we really liked John Candy.

Speaker 1 And it seems like that was the thing. But often he would be questioned in interviews about,

Speaker 1 so you're really fat. Do you like being really fat? And they kept playing the clips, and it was so intrusive.
And he's like, well, you know, I mean,

Speaker 1 I'd like to be a little healthier, but, you know,

Speaker 1 he was always very nice to the people that asked him. And he was somehow respectful in those moments, which was kind of what they were doing.
Hard to do. They were playing a hard to do, right?

Speaker 1 Like, hey, fat, so, was basically every other interview with the guy.

Speaker 1 But part of it was, and it was the same thing with Farley, Chris Farley, where it's almost like, no, you're fat. You're just going to be fat because you're funny, you're fat.
So be fat, stay fat.

Speaker 1 Right. You know, and, you know,

Speaker 1 a lot of times, like, your health,

Speaker 1 this is another thing that we can't admit in this. You can't say that anymore.
You're not allowed to say that. But it's healthier to be thinner.

Speaker 1 Even though every piece of evidence that we have, at least at a certain level, because you can actually have a little meat on your bones and not, it won't necessarily affect your longevity all that much.

Speaker 1 But when you get to a certain level, it becomes a real problem. Yeah.
You know? Yeah. And

Speaker 1 there are a lot of benefits as

Speaker 1 well. Something about John Candy and Chris Farley.

Speaker 1 This is a surprise. Wait.
We lost them both. Chris, we lost Farley.
We lost them all. Yeah.
Yeah, we did. Actor? You know what? He's not feeling very good.
Oh, okay. I got that.
He died.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Wait. Yeah.
Really? That quick? What was that? We lost him. Wow.
I wasn't prepared for that at all. He wasn't healthy.
I'm sorry. No.
He was not. Now, I think he was.

Speaker 1 Candy had, according to the documentary, had a family history of heart issues. And that's likely what

Speaker 1 that was all more hereditary. Farley took a lot of different substances and lived a very hard life.
I think Candy did as well.

Speaker 1 I think it was alcohol. He had some issues with that alcohol.
I think so. Yeah.
But

Speaker 1 a little substance abuse there with both of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's tough to live that life.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you live hard and you're a big guy like that. It doesn't usually

Speaker 1 have high numbers after the died at date. Yeah.
Like it's,

Speaker 1 it gets a little unfortunate there.

Speaker 1 But I don't know. I think that's turning around in the country.
I know the president made a big announcement about some of these drugs that are out there now.

Speaker 1 There's a whole new generation of them coming out that are helping people lose weight and all of this. And

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think that we've seen a real turnaround.
I mean, have you looked at the numbers of the just the United States and obesity levels? Are they going down? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're starting to go down. Finally, it looks like we finally peaked.
Yeah. We finally have moved off.
Well, we peaked from everyone.

Speaker 1 From all of us. Sorry, all of us are overweight.
You can't go anywhere but down from there. Right.
It was what? What is the percentage like 50%? 30%. 30%? It was.

Speaker 1 So I think if I'm remembering off the top of my head,

Speaker 1 it was 30%

Speaker 1 in like the turn of the century obesity and rose all the way to 40%. And it's dropped down.
I think we've dropped down a couple of percent. So it's not at all clear.

Speaker 1 Did they attribute that to Ozimpic and

Speaker 1 partially?

Speaker 1 There's a lot of factors, I guess, at play. You know,

Speaker 1 I mean, I think some people would think, oh, maybe the Maha thing is part of it, right? Like maybe people are trying to turn that around. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You You know, some of that obviously isn't related to weight, but some of it is.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe there's, everyone wants to be an Instagram model. Maybe that's what everyone these days is doing.

Speaker 1 But I think largely I would say it's the GLP-1 class of drugs

Speaker 1 that is responsible for it. And it seems to be headed in the right direction.
We don't know if that's going to be a long-term.

Speaker 1 win for the country, but we do know that, I mean, there was a study that came out the other day that was talking about how the medications are helping heart,

Speaker 1 you know, bad heart-related outcomes, even when you're not losing weight. One of the theories at the beginning was, okay, you're going to lose a bunch of weight.

Speaker 1 Of course, your health is going to get better and your heart is going to improve.

Speaker 1 They're saying that's happening even for people that don't lose weight on it. Wow.
They're still having good heart benefits from

Speaker 1 the drugs. Yeah, it seems to have a lot of things.
The things it does are pretty amazing. Pretty amazing.
And, you know, look, some people don't like them and some people don't.

Speaker 1 And supposedly there are some side effects

Speaker 1 I mean I think everything has yeah there's trade-offs with everything I suppose

Speaker 1 again you might not like it you might be worried about longer term issues which a lot of people do

Speaker 1 it's and that's a tough one to breach because it's like well you know

Speaker 1 depending on how long you drag out that timeline these drugs have been around for a long time in some form or another it just was used for diabetes patients for a big chunk of that time.

Speaker 1 So a lot of those people have been on these drugs for a very long time. We have a pretty long record on them.
But you might say, what if it's 50 years?

Speaker 1 What if it's 80 years of taking them and then it turns into a bad thing? At that point, though, you get into a place where it's almost hard to use anything that's new.

Speaker 1 Any new discovery, you can always say that about, there's some timeline where at some point in the distant future that it could turn negative.

Speaker 1 It's hard to know that until you go through multiple generations of people. So at some point, you're just kind of turning off the entire faucet of innovation, which I don't think that's necessarily

Speaker 1 as well. It's good to balance those concerns, though, I would suppose.
Megan Traynor says that a lot of people are upset because she did that song all about the bass, you know, which apparently

Speaker 1 without trouble, right? Without treble. Lower treble level.
About the bass. About the bass.
She does not have any trouble. No trouble.
But she does have considerable bass.

Speaker 1 Zero trouble. No trouble.
Yeah, exactly. And she said, like, I was 19 when I did that song.

Speaker 1 Changed.

Speaker 1 You just locked them in. 19.

Speaker 1 I'm not all about the bass for the rest of my life, necessarily. Right.
If you don't know who she is, she's, she's, you've no doubt seen the State Farm Commercial, right? With her and

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes. Where I don't know that I have seen the State Farm commercial.
I've never seen the State Farm Commercial. I don't think really.
Yeah. I mean, maybe I just didn't know who she was.

Speaker 1 I know her, I know that song, the bass/slash treble. And she sings it in the commercial.
You'd probably recognize it. And

Speaker 1 probably Probably would.

Speaker 1 They compare her to a different trainer, like an athletic trainer. And what you're getting is Megan Trainer, who does the song all about the bass.
I have seen some in this

Speaker 1 selection, this run of ads. I've seen this where they substitute the celebrity name.

Speaker 1 And then she obviously doesn't know what she's doing, and she tries to put some kind of leg brace on Patrick Mahomes' arm. He says, not for that.
And then she says, who are you again?

Speaker 1 And he says, I'm Patrick. I play football.
She's like, give it up for Patrick, everybody. He does sports.

Speaker 1 It's actually a funny, funny spot.

Speaker 1 I do think that is a real thing we do with celebrities. And then we just like lock them into that early thing, whatever we know them for.
Yes. And then they must be that for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And apparently she's not into that because she did lose some of the base and is a little bit about the trouble now, I think.
I think there's a little trouble. There's a little treble.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. Congratulations.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think

Speaker 1 this happens with celebrities all the time. Like the example I always think about is Fiona Apple.
Remember her? She was a singer.

Speaker 1 You've always been a big fan of her.

Speaker 1 I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
And I always felt like she got there, you know, because she

Speaker 1 an excellent writer. And, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm a fan. But so, anyway, the important part of the story, I suppose, is that she made a speech when she won this award.
And she she kind of was like, you know,

Speaker 1 it was in the 90s. And everyone was like, you know, in that era where everyone was sort of like, it was cool to be negative about things.

Speaker 1 And, you know, and she said something on the stage of like, you know, this world is BS or something like that. And, you know,

Speaker 1 and everyone was like, gosh,

Speaker 1 every article about her for the next 20 years brings up the speech she made when she won, I don't know, best album or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 And our best new song, I think it was, that she won the the MTV music awards she was 19 at the time she made that now it's very possible that her worldview now I don't know that it's gotten any better over the years you know again she's an artist

Speaker 1 but still

Speaker 1 A speech you make when you're 19 years old should not be brought up in every single article about you for multiple decades yeah maybe it let it go after

Speaker 1 six months so what if she made a dumb cynical point about the world when she was 19 years old Right. You know, same thing that this is part, it's in a way, it's like the

Speaker 1 cousins with the woke phenomenon, where like every time there's like a new, you know, some quarterback gets drafted, they're like, did you know when he was 14, he made an insensitive joke?

Speaker 1 You're like, okay,

Speaker 1 he made an insensitive joke about Asians when he was 11. I don't think Asians mind.
I think they're all just like, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm going to speak for all Asians here, despite not being Asian, and say that they're not all that upset that some random 11-year-old made a joke about them.

Speaker 1 They're probably just going to move on with their lives. But like, that's what we're supposed to do, right?

Speaker 1 We're supposed to get all upset and go back in their history and say, well, what did they do? Never let it go. What did they think when they were in seventh grade?

Speaker 1 Were they appropriately balanced and nuanced in their worldview when they were in seventh grade? Probably not. They probably didn't know much about anything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, that's probably what the case was. Maybe we should just all like relax about it a little bit.
That'd be nice. It's not going to happen, but it would be nice.
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Huge investigation by the Washington Free Beacon has come out.

Speaker 1 And this is about something we talked about at this time yesterday, Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 1 And, you know, she came out and she like her, she put her team to work. They did a deep dive on Jeffrey Epstein and uncovered that Jeffrey Epstein had donated to many Republicans.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we now have information from the Washington Free Beacon.
Democratic Representative Johnny Dupree received donations from Jeffrey Dahmer.

Speaker 1 Confirmed.

Speaker 1 Jeffrey Dahmer? Jeffrey Dahmer. Okay.
The Jeffrey Dahmer. Act Blue, you know, the Democratic group received

Speaker 1 donations from Ted Bundy.

Speaker 1 Okay. Richard Ramirez

Speaker 1 donated to the Democratic senatorial campaign.

Speaker 1 Charles Manson to a Democratic representative, Steve Gaw. Wow.
How about this one? This one's surprising to me.

Speaker 1 Look, I was a little, this is Bernie Sanders

Speaker 1 2020 campaign received a donation from, it was only $1.

Speaker 1 So we shouldn't overstate it, but I was surprised Adolf Hitler was making any donations, frankly, in 2020.

Speaker 1 but apparently did it does seem unlikely right now i'm not i'm less surprised that uh peter hitler donated to many democrats including joe biden and kirsten gillibrand there really are people with the name Hitler.

Speaker 1 Hitler.

Speaker 1 How do you not change it?

Speaker 1 I don't know how. Yeah.
I just don't care. I don't care what it costs or

Speaker 1 whatever kind of hassle you have to go through. You change your name from Hitler.
And I could see saying, like, look, I'm not related to the guy.

Speaker 1 I want to maintain the history of my family name, but do you? No. No, I really don't.
No, I don't want to explain that to everybody. It's not the Hitler family.
This is a different.

Speaker 1 This is the Idaho Hitlers.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Are you surprised about this, Pat? And there's a man been in the news quite a bit lately, Nick Fuentes, donated to Kamala Harris for Senate.
Wow. In 2019.
Wow. Surprised.

Speaker 1 That seems unlikely. I was surprised about Craig Hosmer receiving this donation from Mohammed Atta.

Speaker 1 That sounds terrible.

Speaker 1 But I was less, I will say, less surprised by that than I was by Barack Obama and Mark Warner, the Democratic senator, receiving donations in the amount of $250 to Warner, $500 to Barack Obama from John Wilkes Booth.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 A presidential assassin

Speaker 1 is donating to their campaigns and they didn't turn down those. Did you ever have to answer for that? No.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Now, these are the all of the people, right, that you expect them to be.
I mean, it is the John Wilkes booth, right? Well, our team just did a deep dive on it. Oh, okay.
So, you know, it was a

Speaker 1 Peter Hitler.

Speaker 1 We just don't know. You didn't say it.
You never did this. I never said it.
I always tried to miss it. I didn't mislead anybody.
Wow.

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