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Welcome. We're glad you're here.

Thank you so much for listening. We have some amazing updates.
Should we start with that? Let's start with the update on the woman up in Canada, who we've been talking about for the last few days.

I'm telling you this audience is the greatest audience in the world.

You have called everybody and alerted everybody.

And the administration has gotten involved. Dr.
Oz called yesterday, and he was like, how can I help? And

it's what's so funny is I said, we need to talk to this doctor in Tampa. What I didn't know is this doctor in Tampa is a big fan of the show.

And he was trying to call us for two days and couldn't get a hold of us.

And so when Oz called him, he's like, yes, give me his number. I'm ready.

I want to help. This is the guy that actually

invented the procedure that she apparently needs down at Tampa General. He has his whole hospital.
He's an amazing guy.

And so I'm talking to him yesterday and he's like, don't worry. Puts me in touch with the hospital.
All of the executives at the hospital, they're like, don't worry.

And I'm like, look, you know, if you can give us a discount, that would be great. I said, I don't know what this is going to cost.
And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Money's not going to be a problem. Don't worry about it.
We'll just take care of this. I mean, it was amazing.

You know, all the way, all the way. All we want to do is give this woman an alternative to death.

The Canadian health care system won't help her. They've blocked her out, and there's nothing they can do.

And so they recommend that she kill herself. And it's not like there's nothing they can do.

They're swamped. And I don't want to bad mouth Canadians and I don't want to bad mouth doctors in Canada.
The doctors in Canada are no different than the doctors here.

They got in because they wanted to help people.

And you know, how many times have you talked to your doctor and your doctor's like, oh, geez, that's a bureaucratic nightmare with the insurance companies and everything else?

Imagine it's not just the insurance companies, it's the government involved. So the bureaucracy is crazy.

Then on top of it, what many people claim was a great healthcare system when it was Canada, just like in Sweden, you know, when you have a small population and everybody kind of thinks alike, you can do things like that.

But once it becomes diverse, once it becomes sprawling,

you can't afford to do it and it doesn't work. So Canada had what they claim was a great health care system.
I know Canadians, they always stand by it. They're not anymore.
Why?

They're not standing by it because the system is being overwhelmed with illegals and

people coming from all different parts of the world. And so there's not enough doctors and not enough medicine.
And so what happens?

Well, exactly what we said would happen in 2009 when we were debating Obamacare. I said, warning, there is this whole system put inside of all of Obamacare, and it's called the complete live system.

And if there's a shortage ever, here's how we ration care. So people didn't like it that, you know, if you had money, you could get care.
But I said, well, somebody's going to decide. And

if it's not who has the money, it's going to be somewhere, some something else, and it'll be the government. And then it's just a faceless bureaucracy that you can't stop and you can't get out of.

Well, that's what's happening in Canada. And so a few years ago, they started what's called MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying.

It's assisted suicide.

But it has now become, I thought it was the third, it is now the fifth largest killer of Canadians.

You know, when you say, when the world says we have an epidemic of guns in America, I think it was, what was it,

13 of every 100,000 Americans are killed by a gun, 13 out of every 100,000 every year. And the world says that's an epidemic.
Well, MAID kills 37 people out of every 100,000.

37, not 13, 37 in Canada.

It's horrible. And it's leaving people hopeless and trapped.
So all we wanted to do is give this woman some hope. She is just this beautiful, beautiful woman.

I mean, I don't know if you've seen the pictures of her before the disease hit her.

She was just stunning. She still is.
But you you can see the ravage of whatever it is that's going on in her body.

And

she feels like she doesn't have a reason to live and she has no hope. And because of you, because of this audience, let me just say this.

Best doctors on this particular issue in the world are now on it.

The best hospital in the world for this condition is now on it. They've, I don't know anything about her medical, I don't want to know anything about her medical situation.

That's between her and her doctors. But I was told also that they are making sure that everything is right.
They're reaching out to other specialists, endocrinologists, the best in the country,

to get their opinion on it. So she's going to have the best care America can

provide just out of the generosity of all these guys' hearts. Okay.

And what she decides, she will do, but it's all taken care of for her. And it's all because of you.
And you know what's amazing? We didn't have to raise a dime for this.

Everybody's doing it. So far, everybody's doing it because they want to.
It might cost them personally some money, but they've all volunteered and go, I'll take care of that. I'll take care of that.

I'll take care of that. And that is amazing.
That is absolutely amazing. And so thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
I don't think this is going to be like

a cop show where

you have the crime, the police figure it out, they arrest, then they go to trial, and then you throw them in prison at the end. I think this is

a longer story that we're going to be following for a while. But

thank you.

God,

thank you. It's amazing what's happening.
Did I miss anything on that, Stu?

I don't think so. I mean, I think we were talking a little bit about this before, and you mentioned something

that I thought is true and seemingly unfortunate from our perspective, and I'm sure from hers too, but like this isn't necessarily this, like, neatly

wrapped up in a bow television episode that, you know, lasts 30 minutes and it's over, and we all got the nice resolution at the end.

Like, she's got a long road ahead of her, no matter what happens here, and there's a lot of stuff.

Hopefully,

it'll still be her choice, but it doesn't end January 7th in death. And that's what we want.
We just want her to live. 100%.
Just live. Yeah.

You know, and she deserves, of course, the medical privacy that we all deserve, right? Like when we're going through these things.

She's going to have, you know, we're not going to get like, it's not going to be like, hey, we've got 12 new things to tweet to you every day. It's going to be something that's going to be,

you know,

different than that. But also,

there's a chance here now, right? Like there was no chance.

This woman had, you know, asked for death.

That's how dire it was. And because of this audience,

the administration, Dr. Norman, and many others working behind the scenes, like it changed that entire narrative.
and that's just wonderful.

Dr. Norman told me yesterday when I was talking to him, he's like, Glenn, this is not just about her.
He said, 55% of women have this undiagnosed, and it's a killer. He's like,

it will just change your life, just destroy your life. 55% of women have it, and most times it goes undiagnosed.

We're going to have him on maybe next week to talk about what it is because I've never even heard of it. Have you heard of it? No, no.

I've got to be honest, I didn't even know the body part existed.

That's where I was. I'd heard of a thyroid, but I'm not really sure what it does.
I don't know what a parathyroid is.

Is it like an extraterrestrial thyroid?

Is it like the appendix? Do we need it really? I don't know.

Apparently, we do. Apparently, we do.
So that's how, you know, I know. Look, I'm a doctor, so I don't want to get too technical, but apparently we need it.

Okay.

Okay, Dr. Beck.
Yeah, thank you for that.

Yes, yes, you're welcome. You're welcome.

So what else is on? Let's talk a little bit about Venezuela. We're going to get to your phone calls, 888-727-BECK.

But

there's a couple of things that are happening in Venezuela. We told you yesterday that they were targeting

this oil tanker. It has been sanctioned.
under the Biden administration. They were running Venezuelan oil to China.
It looks like Iran is also involved.

And we told you yesterday this is really all about China and Iran and Russia and kicking them out of this hemisphere. And it's going to get dicey.

Stu, was it you that was telling me this morning that somebody on ABC, who told me this this morning, that ABC had a story? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah,

it was a colonel, a former colonel, who was analyzing the Venezuela situation. And he said,

like, this is a real buildup. This is not a, you know, like an empty threat.
And it is, um,

it is, I think the way he phrased it was, I don't see how he unwinds this.

Like, meaning that, like, the road leads to action of some sort, not, you know, maybe he, you know, obviously Maduro steps down. That's one way that it maybe doesn't.

But he said he didn't see any way that this was going to be unwound neatly, which is an interesting

by Trump. Because I mean, you're

basically saying that the road. Here's how he unwinds.
Here's how he unwinds things.

Yeah, not going to do that.

And I want to just point out the greatest president of all time was saying that I'm going to do that. And now I'm saying I'm going to do the opposite.
And who'd have seen it coming?

It's just because I'm a genius. I mean, he doesn't, he has, he has, when you talk about Putin, he goes down a road.
And if he's going down that road, then he's got a safe face.

Donald Trump, he's a negotiator. I don't think he cares about that.
I really don't. He's like, well, tried that, didn't work.
Oh, well, I'm going to do this because that's what I do.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it is oddly kind of like a superpower, right? He doesn't have

embarrassment or shame over that stuff. Like he will say stuff that, you know, going far, hardcore down one road.
And then the next day, he'll be the opposite.

And that is, look, sometimes it can be a little, make people nervous. And I think that is his intent a a lot of the times.

I think he likes, you know, kind of people keeping people on edge in a negotiation. And he doesn't have that, like, I don't know, the right word is, it's not shame, right?

But it's one of those things that, like, we've seen with former presidents that are, you know, going down the road of war, and they can't back themselves out of it because they have they would be embarrassed.

They've gone down this road, they've said all these things, they've driven, you know, put red lines on on certain activities and once you have that red line down you can't reverse yourself he doesn't care about that stuff it doesn't seem he just he'll he'll if he doesn't if in that moment he thinks it's the right thing to do he'll do it and if he needs to change it and he thinks it's going to serve a better outcome he'll do that i've always said don't bluff don't bluff

and i don't think he does bluff he'll get to a certain point and he'll say, you know, we're going to vaporize the little man in North Korea.

That wasn't serious. He wasn't serious about that.
That's him just playing a hardball game

and not serious about that.

But you don't ever bluff. And I don't think he does bluff.
What he does is he uses it as

he has a specific outcome that he wants. And he'll use every tactic that he has.

And he'll go all the way down that path until it shows there's no fruit to be gained here. Okay.
And he'll switch and he'll go to another tactic and he'll go all the way down that path.

In the end, if he's tried all other paths, he would go back and say, you know, there's nothing else we can do. We've got to go in and bomb Iran.

You know what I mean? But he'll use everything else all the way, but he's not ashamed to say, I'm not going to do that. I've changed my mind.
We're going to try this.

But once that thing is on the table, it is on the table. If nothing else works, then he'll just come to the American people and go, I tried everything else.
Nothing else works. I got to do that.
Yeah.

It's interesting to hear the military perspective on that from a higher ranking officer because I kind of see it kind of similar. And you're right.
I don't think Donald Trump is not bluffing.

I think what he is doing is he's

I think he's providing the Maduro regime a couple of options and basically saying, these are your options. The ball is down your court.

The two options I see are just based off of the entire, you know, the entire military situation that is now gathered in the Caribbean. I think that one,

go to Belarus.

Yeah, right.

And they've offered that. Like, this is your out.
So this door is wide open for you if you won't. Go.

The other option is we've signaled that we are willing to seize illegal oil tinkers right off your coast.

For one, they're not being able to, they can't function as a country without some kind of sanction evasion. And that's how they're doing it.
They're evading sanctions.

So we have kind of set up this, I don't know, know, pseudo blockade if we need to use it. And they're signaling, we're not going to let these ships go in and out.

There's your first option. Second option is kind of the Panama-Noriega option.
They're signaling, and the precedent is so insane.

For one, Noriega had the almost exact same indictment on him back in the late 80s. It was

drug running, cocaine, money laundering, all these different things, RICO, all this stuff. And then we built a massive presence, just like we've done now, military presence.

And then we we gave Noriega the option. Well, he ended up killing a United States Marine, and then that gave us the precedent to invade.
Noriega was out. Maduro knows this.

He knows that's the precedent. He does not want to go there.
So his options are threaten the military, get an invasion, or a threatened blockade, or I could just go to Belarus. Yeah.

I don't know what he's going to do, but Belarus seems like a really good option. I mean, that would be the option I would take.
He's got more money than God now. What else do you need?

Just like Florida. Sunny Belarus.
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Man, I'm doing great. Been doing great.
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That's awesome. Yeah, thank you.
Way back in the day.

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And the thing about leadership is they're great leading people one-on-one.

They're great leading at team leadership, but most leaders forget about themselves.

And I'm just wondering, with all of the stuff you investigate, look at, do all the information you get how do you reset your mindset and not go absolutely crazy with all the stuff you look into

what makes you assume he's done that that's assuming that i haven't gone crazy um

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I got in this morning and I said to the team, we have to look into the, what is it? The screw worm? What is it? The screw worm. Yeah, yeah.

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I want to talk to you about whatever it is you want to discuss. Let me go to Alex in New York.
Hello, Alex.

Alex, are you there? Hi, Glenn. Yes, I am.
Hi.

Hi. Go ahead.
Sure. So I'm calling in from upstate New York where we definitely have a situation on our hands here with the solar farms that our governor is pushing very, very hard.

They are absolutely using it as a land grab to take our best farmland. And in the case of near my farm here,

they're trying to put in a solar farm on a protected grassland habitat that New York State already designated as an important habitat, except when big solar comes to town.

And we're currently fighting that up here. I meet with a coalition of people across the state, really amazing people, who are battling this in every village in upstate New York right now.

And we definitely have a situation on our hands. I call it a runaway spring.

Yeah, just keep fighting. I don't know how you fight it in New York, but just keep fighting

because

there are communities around the country that are fighting things like this, that are winning.

I don't know about New York, but we've got to have our farmland. And it kills me.
You know, I talked about this the other day. It absolutely kills me that the people could not have nuclear energy.

No way we can have a nuclear energy, but the minute big tech needs nuclear energy, oh, we're going to, yeah, they can build them, build as many as you want.

It's so disgusting. I want to talk to you about energy on something else.

The solar thing does not work. And as a man who has spent

maybe

a million, million and a half dollars on

alternative energy for a ranch I have up in the mountains that has no power to it.

And over a 10 or 12-year period, I have just poured money into it, and it's a nightmare. It does not work.

It doesn't work.

You can't run anything of any significance.

You know, running my studio, just my studio alone has been an absolute nightmare in there. It's not, it doesn't work, okay?

Solar and wind, it might be good for a little add-on, you know, if you live in Phoenix, you know, or I don't know, on the sun, but it doesn't work, um,

at least to the scale that we need. Um, but just the other day, do we happen to have the clip from the prediction show where I made a prediction of what was coming next year on energy?

Can we play that, please?

I think in 2026, 2025 was the year, as I said, that we started really understanding AI and what is coming to some degree. And we understood, oh, energy is going to be a problem.

I think 2026 is going to be the first year that we see things like Texas having rolling brownouts. for a week at a time.
I think you're going to start to see the strain on the grid

by the end of next year in ways that you would never have expected in the United States. It's just growing exponentially.

Okay.

I said that on Wednesday's show. We had a prediction show of what the biggest stories and what are the predictions.
And when I said that, I'm like, you know, at the end of next year.

Let me give you this from the Associated Press today.

The amount of ERCOT's large load interconnection requests ballooned to more than 230 gigawatts this year,

a massive increase. Now, last year, December 2024,

ERCOT needed 63 gigawatts. A year later, this December, the load that is required is 230 gigawatts.

That's a lot more than they needed to go back to the future.

This, you're going to see the grids are not built for this.

More than 70% of the large loads are for the data center. The data centers are just beginning to be built.
We don't have the energy.

And I'm telling you, this is going to be the Achilles heel of this administration.

And believe me, it will only be worse with a Democratic administration. This is going to be the Achilles heel because we can't build these power plants fast enough.

And while Donald Trump is fast tracking these nuclear power plants, it's not fast enough. Because as we build these data centers, what's going to happen is

your energy, you're going to start to have rolling brownouts. Also, because of these data centers, you're also going to see the unemployment go up.

If you start to have high unemployment, high prices, and rolling brownouts to where you're having a hard time with electricity yourself, but the data centers for the Silicon Valley companies, they're getting your power.

I'm telling you, the Bubba effect is just the beginning. This will be an absolute nightmare for all politicians.

I'm so pissed off. What?

This was, I was on this show. They were like, hey, you want to be on a prediction show?

You'll be squaring off against the guy that predicted Osama bin Laden, the financial crisis, all the way to Caliphate. Good luck, buddy.
And I'm like, I just knew it.

I didn't know it was going to happen that quick, but like two days later. Two days later.
And it comes up. I mean, I mean, Texas is, look, Texas is in trouble.

You know, and as goes Texas, so goes America. So goes America, so goes the world.
Texas has got to get serious about, and I know they are to some degree, but the president has got to

get rid of all of these restrictions, and Texas has to get all of these, and we have to concentrate on electricity and not just electricity for the average homes,

or I mean, for these data centers, but for the average homes. The grids are already under strain.

They're not, you know, the problem is if they start taking this electricity of,

off of the grid, the old grid,

you can't pour more electricity into that grid. The grids are already at the breaking point.
They're old. They're brittle.

They're not prepared for what we have to do. That's why they have to build these nuclear power plants at

the server farms. Because they cannot go on to the system because the system can't handle that much power.
We are in real trouble and everybody is still talking about solar power and everything else.

You're out of your freaking minds.

Nobody has any idea. Stu, I'm sorry.
Stu's like, watch your language, Mr.

I'm sorry.

You hit really hard at the beginning. I was wondering what road we were going down.

I mean, you're, you're out of your mind. People have got to wake up to

between now and 2028.

I can't emphasize this enough. If you've listened to me for a long time and you heard me say, I'm telling you, we're going to have a financial meltdown and it is going to be the worst.

You know, it's going to, it's going to, you know, you'll lose your 401k, you'll lose everything. Get your money out of the system.
I was saying that in 2006, 2007, and no one was listening.

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You can't, you, and this is so hard.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program. I have to tell you, I am,

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Hi, Brian.

Hey, guys. I hope you're all doing well.
Hey, just one thing that

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I mean, to me, it seems like a strategy for success. We know it's being done within the Muslim world, obviously.

Why is that not spoken about more? And again, I just think it seems like a missed opportunity.

Well, I think you're exactly right. And I think if we don't have kids, we are just going to disappear off the face of the earth.

The numbers by 2050 make it inevitable that we're an Islamic world.

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I don't think that's a good thing, quite honestly. I think Christianity is very, very important.

I think the Western civilization is very important, but we're not having kids. And it has been a very long, I mean, it's very Malthusian.
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Hey, Glenn. So I'm a 30-year police veteran,

now retired, which maybe 30 years of policing has hardened me a little bit, the people suffering. But I've got to tell you, listening to you talk to that husband yesterday was really touching.

Just especially the part where you were like crying like a little girl. That was awesome.
Okay, we're going to be able to do it. We have to be more specific.
There's so many segments. We don't know.

No,

we got it. We got it.

I'm horrible. I don't know what's happening to me.

I'm in this phase right now where I'm just like, I'm crying all the time.

That was especially touching. I mean,

I don't think you have a heart if you didn't cry. I'm just saying, Billy.

But

thank you for pointing out I'm a little girl. Anyway,

well,

I'm glad you felt that too.

Yeah, your man card

might be threatened a tiny bit by that, but you know what? It honestly is a beautiful thing you're doing.

Thank you. Thank you.
I have to tell you, we gave an update last hour. Let me give you just a real quick

update.

Everything is being taken care of.

Her flight is covered. The hotel is covered.
The hospital. Thank you, Tampa General.
Hospital is covered. Doctors are covered.

We don't know what the plan of attack is yet right now, but everybody has

stepped to the plate.

And

it's just remarkable. I mean, the guy who invented, Dr.
Norman, who invented the surgery,

he's the guy who was like trying to get a hold of us. And he was listening to the show.
He's a big fan of the show. And he's like, oh my gosh.

This is my thing. He doesn't perform it anymore, but he's the one, the hospital is named after him for this procedure.
And he's involved. And I talked to the hospital last night.

They're getting others. So she has other opinions and other doctors involved.
She's going to have a ton of options. And hopefully she, you know, will not choose, you know, maid,

which was her only option just two or three days ago. And I talked to her husband afterwards.
I called him and I said, I was so excited. I'm like, I just got off the phone with the hospital.

I just got off the phone with the doctor. And I was, I didn't tell him this, but I said to the hospital, I said,

I'm not sure how much this surgery costs. And I'm kind of, you know, I'll take care of it.
But is, I mean, maybe we can get a discount or I might have to raise some money for it.

And they just stop me right in the middle. They're like,

Mr. Beck,

we want to save her life. This is all taken care of.
Don't worry about it. We'll take care of it.
I mean, it was just such a great moment of humanity.

Just, I was so, so proud of everybody that is involved. And my God, you're making me cry cry again.
So I'm going to stop talking about it. But really good news on that.

We'll just have to keep following the story.

Lance in South Carolina. Hello, Lance.

Hey, Glenn, been listening for years. Tim Tenominon was when I first got introduced to you.

Oh, my God.

The future with Tim Tenominon.

You really need to do a. Oh, you know, while I got you all laughing, the

Stu's Christmas special. Oh, the Christmas twist.
Oh, the Christmas Twist, yeah.

Never touch it. Leave it alone.
It's perfect. Don't try to redo it.
No remakes. It's perfect.

No, we don't need to remake it. I tell you, what was it, Stu? Wasn't it Hallmark that remade it? Yeah, thank you.
I mean,

I'm watching a Hallmark because my mother-in-law and my wife and my daughter, they watch Hallmark Christmas. It's all the TV all the time.

And I come in the room and I'm like, this is the Christmas twist. Hallmark stole the cookie story from Stu.
It's amazing.

I like to think of it more as a tribute than a theft, and we are happy that they did it. But

if you don't know this, this is a Christmas twist, is a movie, a little mini-movie we made many years ago now, and we rerun it during the holidays.

And it was basically a parody of those Hallmark movies about a woman who owned a Christmas cookie store and how her life with the evil businessman and her potential love interest played out.

And we were just making fun of those Hallmark movies. And then multiple years, I was like two or three years after that, Hallmark released a movie with the exact same plot line.
Exactly.

I mean, it's so good.

Except it's really a Hallmark movie. Yeah.
It really is like somebody watch the Christmas Twist.

I mean, it's not, you know, eventually you got to get to cookies because they're all about some evil businessman destroying something in the town. So eventually you're like, I don't know what's left.

The bakery? Let's try cookies.

But it is so exact. It's so exact.
Better acting, I would say. Better acting.

In some ways, yeah. In some ways.
Well, it doesn't have Jeffy in it or me. Anyway, so thank you.
Thank you so much, Lance. Is that what you were calling about?

No, no, actually,

I want to talk about the pardons.

Hunter's pardon was legitimate. I mean, he was actually accused of a crime.

I know you're plugged in with the president. I haven't heard anybody say this anywhere, and I've been watching everything.
These pardons, forget the auto pen.

The auto pen doesn't even matter because these were immunity deals. These were not pardons.

None of these people were under investigation. None of these people had any crimes they were accused of.
So you can't pardon somebody for something they may have or may not have done.

And that's an immunity deal. And again, I've watched everything.
I haven't heard anybody bring that subject up. I don't think the auto pens even matters.

I just think these things are just null and void from the jump. And if you have, but like I said,

who do we have besides Mike Lee? Because Mike's always hard to get a hold of at this time because he's like, I'm working on Senate stuff, Glenn.

Who do we have that's a constitutional scholar that we could call real quick and see if we can get an answer on that before the end of the show?

At least put a call out to Mike Lee, will you?

But

I'd like to know that. Because the president has, and Stu and I have been talking about this for a while, this has gotten out of control.

These pardons are out of control, out of control.

It's something constitutional. It's been there since George Washington.

President has always had this right, and it is a privilege of his. But you're right.
These things where, you know, wait, I can't investigate this, that what that does is

if you are, as a president, doing something that you shouldn't be doing, all you have to do then is say, I pardon everyone in my administration for anything that they might have done wrong.

That can't stand. You're absolutely right on that.

Yeah, I mean, and you have the immunity deal, which, again, I think is, I don't see if the, I don't see how a pre-pardon is even possibly

covered. Like, it's just such an insane concept.

I mean, the way that Biden, he's right that Hunter Biden actually committed a crime and pardoning him from that is, in theory, obviously, outside of the family interest, was the way that that was supposed to work.

But they also pardoned him for multiple years of question marks whether he committed crimes or not. Right?

That was all included in that. And I go to go a step farther on this, because

I am on a bit of a personal jihad against the pardon.

I'm done with it. I'm done with it personally.

I get that there's a reason the founders were very, very smart, but the founders are smart enough to also have a process for constitutional amendments, and I would support one getting rid of the pardon power completely.

I'm done with it. But

may I just interrupt you here for a second? I just want to point out: we now have verification: not only is Stu a Canadian spy, but he is also a hidden Nazi. Notice the word he used?

Jihad, which translates to My Struggle. Hitler's book, My Struggle, Mein Kampf.
I just want to point it out. Exposed

Nazi

planning a genocide on the power of pardons. I am against it strongly.

But the other part I would say that I think is even worse and is never discussed are these types of pardons where they say, you know, all

marijuana crimes.

everyone who had one of those are pardoned. There's 17,000 people.
That is just you legislating.

If I wanted to come in and say, hey, I think marijuana should be legal, I could theoretically become president and just say everyone ever committed, everyone convicted of a marijuana-related crime is now pardoned.

And like, that's just you making laws. It's you going completely around Congress and the entire process we have there.
Like,

at the very least, it should be massively restricted from the way that it's being utilized by not only

several presidents in a row, I would argue, but it should just, you know, I think it should just go away completely.

It's the most king-like power that the president has, and it doesn't make any sense to me. Yes.

So the

I was just, I'm looking this up here.

Barack Obama did this. He gave

clemency for anybody who was convicted of a nonviolent federal drug crime with no significant criminal history while serving extraordinarily long sentences.

And

anybody who was a violent offender was not eligible. And it wasn't

a true mass pardon, but it was pretty close to it.

It was mass in scale, but not blanketed.

And I think there were like 2,000 people that he pardoned on that. That's just the law.

That's a creating an idea.

Yeah, you're saying, oh, by the way, that law that I personally disagree with, we're not going to

have to. The whole law doesn't count anymore.

We have a whole process to make laws.

When they pass a law, you can't just say, eh, and shrug your shoulders and say, I don't particularly like it. And for some reason, that is the way that the pardon power has been translated.

The problem is that the president can do that.

The president has just always had the restraint not to do that because it was bad for the country and and bad for laws. You know, you don't just, you don't do this.
We're becoming more and more of a

king in our administration, and it's not Donald Trump. This has been going on for a long time.
Barack Obama, I think, got really, really bad, but this was going on before him, obviously.

But Barack Obama kind of set something off.

And then because we couldn't get any legislation passed, we had Donald Trump try to do executive orders to combat Barack Obama's executive orders. Then Biden did it.
Now Trump is, it's got to stop.

Because here's the problem.

One of the things I said in our special on Wednesday, which was biggest stories of the year and predictions for next year, I said you're going to start to see rolling brownouts in places like Texas in 2026.

Texans, wake up, wake up. But you're going to start to see rolling brownouts.

But I also made another prediction. I've just lost what I was going to say was the prediction.

Oh,

this massive swing. We're getting whiplash.

You can't run a country like this. You can't run a country where it's all being done by executive order.
Because, look, we were all the way over to one side

when Trump was here. Then we swung way farther than that with Biden.
Now Trump is bringing us back this way.

If you don't pass laws, it's just going to swing. And

you can't run a country like that. This has got to stop.
We have to pass laws. Congress must do its job.
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We have Sue in Minnesota. How are things in Minnesota, Sue? Sue?

Well, they could be better. They could be better.

Yeah. I don't even recognize my home anymore.

It's really hard. What does that mean? It's really hard.

What's that mean? What does that mean that I don't recognize my home? I swear, everyone's gone insane. Although, I grew up on a farm in western Minnesota, corn and soybeans, so I'm corn-fed.

And I moved to the Twin Cities, and that might not have been such a good move. I think I'd have done better in Sioux Falls because I think people have a little more common sense in South Dakota.

So that's kind of the

thing thing with our governor here is a bit of a problem.

You know, the whole, we spared this country so much misery. You guys really owe us.

I don't know if you were the one.

I believe the vote went to him, didn't it? Didn't it go to Kamala in Minnesota? Yeah, they lose that statement.

It did. It did.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
So

you know what? You didn't help.

Do you know about rocks and cows?

Do you know about rocks and cows?

Generally speaking, I know about rocks and cows. Well,

here's another version of rocks and cows.

I'm not clear on who he was talking to, but he

just said to them, there was a debate on the table about

Minneapolis, because the Minneapolis area runs the whole whole state because the population is so much bigger, and the rest of the state is just led around by a nose ring.

And so, but he said, Oh, don't worry about it. There's nothing but rocks and cows out there.

Oh, my gosh.

I have to tell you,

I know the rest of the country is going the opposite direction. Thanks, Sue, for your call.

I would like to make a case that we should have the Electoral College statewide

because

these cities are growing so big and so powerful that they dictate what happens in the rural areas. And those are entirely different.

They're entirely different.

You can't get a bunch of city people to regulate what's going on in the farmlands. And the farmlands shouldn't have to live under the same kind of stuff that the people in the city want.

I mean,

this is what our founders were afraid of with the country, that New York, and I think it was Pennsylvania would rule everywhere else. And that's why we have the Electoral College.

And it's still happening. If we didn't have the Electoral College, believe me, New York and California, we would go their way every single time.

You can't do it that way. And I think that we're having this problem in the states.

The states become, the cities become so progressive and so oppressive, and they're putting our farmlands and our farmers under restrictions that nobody understands.

They don't understand the rural areas.

And that's, I don't know, kind of important, you know,

only if you want to eat. Let me go to Tom quickly in Florida.
How much time do we have here, Sarah?

Hi, Tom. Yeah, hey, Glenn.

Total honor. Very quickly,

this parathyroid thing is a very real thing. I'm a full-time actor, voiceover talent, and shuttle driver.
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But just like the infomercial, Glenn, there's more.

God blessed me, and I'm out near the beach in a monthly rental. And this Canadian thing with their stupid healthcare system is very, very real.
Very, very real. I was on a lease with this car.

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me, hold hold on.
I don't want to, I don't want to cut you off here, but I have to for a network break. We'll be back in just a minute.
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We were talking to Tom in Florida, and you were about to tell us a story. Tom, go ahead.

Hey, thanks, Glenn. Yeah,

to kind of recap, the Breeder's Digest, the parathyroid thing, very real. I shuttle those patients as far as them coming in to stay at one of the five hotels I shuttle, full-time activists over time.

They used to support that. Here's the thing.

This thing with Canada is very, very real.

God's blessed man. I sold my home at 26 years, 36 years of Florida back in May, June.
I went on a four-month lease out here at the beach until I figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

What I did is this Canadian couple, he's got a shoulder issue,

black and blue all the way up and down. They were going to come down.
They were going to take it over.

Emergency to the Canadian government to get this thing. There could be a blood clot in there.
I don't want to say the name or anything like that.

You know, you could break away. Embolism, whatever.
There's all kind of dangers. And this guy's waiting.

And I mean, I'm kind of benefiting from it because I still want to go month to month because I haven't bought anything yet.

God's been good to me. I'm a cash buyer.
But this thing is very, very real. The parent divergent thing, I mean, that system up there

is just

a total mess. Before you comment, if there's time before I get off the call, before I get kicked off the call,

I may, because of my experiences

as a shuttle driver, have a ray of hope for you on the power situation in Texas, but I won't get into that right now.

Okay.

All right, so let me comment on that, Tom, and I'm going to put you on hold, and you can pass that information to my producer. But

let me comment on the healthcare thing. You're absolutely right.
And I want to make sure that, because up in Canada, they're trying to make this like I'm against Canadian health care.

I'm not a Canadian.

I feel the same way about the socialized health care up in Massachusetts when they did Romney care. I'm not in Massachusetts.
You have a right to make that decision if that's what you want to do.

I don't want it in my state, and I think it's a mistake. But you're Canadian.
You can do whatever you want. And I know Canadians,

I mean, you know,

my brother Robert, his wife is Canadian, and she has defended the Canadian healthcare system my whole life. I've known her since we were teenagers.

And she has defended this her whole life.

And her family lives up in Canada. That is starting to change as people they know and people in the family are not able to get basic things done anymore.

It's because the system is being overwhelmed.

Sometimes this socialized thing will work for a little while, but then as things change and numbers begin to change, you get overwhelmed and then you have to start rationing.

And that's what's happening. And it is extraordinarily dangerous.
And, you know, I don't know what's happening with Jolene. I just know that the doctors down here, the hospital, everybody is on board.

They're going to do a thorough review of her case. They're going to get her help.

if she needs surgery she'll have surgery if she doesn't need surgery she'll find whatever it is we'll find out what's going on with her

but they don't have the luxury of that up in Canada you have people who are

you know it's a meat grinder it's it's like triage up in Canada from the way I understand it you got to get in and you got to be processed got to move got to move because I've got so many patients and I can't take any more patients I'm overwhelmed so we got to move got to move got to move and you don't want that in your health care because sometimes it's not what it seems like it is.

Or, you know, you go and, like you said, go in with

a bad

shoulder. And, well, that might be an embolism, might be whatever.
I don't know.

But

that's why you need time. That's why you need doctors.
That's why you need to be able to have a doctor who's looking at you, listening to you, thinking out of the box.

I mean, I've been so fortunate myself, but I'm, you know, and I'm not your average person, and it kills me that people don't have this ability, but we have to find a way to fix it so everyone can have this ability to be able to see doctors here in the United States, and socialized medicine is not it.

But I've seen three doctors, I think, from my back, and all three of them have had different opinions.

They all say pretty much the same thing, but the treatments are completely different, completely different.

And

one will say, I think there's something here that the other didn't see.

If you only have one doctor and you're in socialized medicine, what that doctor says, there you go, that's what you're going to do. And sometimes doctors can be wrong.

It's just a system that no longer works. It just no longer works.
And you know it doesn't work because now the healthcare system is offering death to people. There's no reason

Jolene should have been recommended for death. There's no, you don't kill people because of this.
You fix it. You find out what's going on, but because they don't have the time.
And again, no

dispersions on the doctors up in Canada. No dispersions on Canada.
You do your own thing.

But this is wrong.

This has to be fixed. And it's not going to be fixed with more government.
It's just not.

And it's also not going to be fixed with more open borders. Recognize what the problem is.
We have a problem with our school systems here.

We're having a problem with our health care systems being overwhelmed. Why do you think that is? Why do you think people can't afford houses? Well,

the price of apartments have gone through the roof. The price of condos have gone through the roof.
The price of houses have gone through the roof. Why do you think that is?

You can't bring 10 million new people in and then expect that your house is going to remain at the same price.

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That's the real crux of so many of our problems.

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Give them the blame. If the Democrats did something bad, give them the blame.
Let's just talk about the problem and what the real issue is. Rebecca in Texas.
Hi, Rebecca. How are you?

Hi, I'm well. Sorry, Paul.
How are you? That's all right. Good.

I was calling because my fourth grader, I was showing him George AI the other day. And when you were speaking, it looks great, by the way.
Well done.

And when you were speaking about it. It's a long way from being right, but thank you.
Well, it looks great.

You mentioned and you referred to it as a he.

And

I was just curious how

that kind of evolves to where you get to where you're calling it he. Is it because you're intimate with the algorithm that almost in a sense you trust yourself so much?

Okay.

So it's just kind of how

are you wrestling with that?

Oh, big time wrestling with that. I try, and I've said on the air, don't ever refer to it as anything but it.
And I do. And I don't know what's causing that other than

it can respond in a human way.

It can respond in a way that a human would. And so it is natural.
And I'm glad you caught me on that.

And

I have to ask all my producers when you catch me on that. And if I'm saying he instead of it, correct me, because this is a big problem.

I don't refer I might refer to it as he, which is a a problem,

but I don't think of it as a person

or anything else. I know when I think about it, I know exactly what it is.

It's just, and it's a bad, it's the beginning of the slippery slope, I think.

It's a bad habit because when we're talking about an interview, I'm talking about an interview with him. I've never used,

there's no other case where I'm like, I'm doing an interview with it, and I need to. I need to.

But

you seem very concerned about that, Rebecca. Why is it? I agree with you, but what is your concern?

Well,

I thought it was,

you know, you told us really, and, you know, I knew it as well, but to kind of just fear what it can be. And already we're having a hard time believing our own eyes.

And so I just thought it more of an interesting,

just an interesting note and just how easy it can be to fall into that. Oh, I know.
And

it is all you are, you are the perfect mom. You are so great in being aware of all of this.

It is why we had a discussion because people said, Glenn, you don't want to call it George AI because AI is going to be, everything's going to be AI eventually and it's going to look outdated. And

my view was

George AI, we're not to that point yet where everybody understands AI. And I want it always to be, you know,

when we get into the video releasing of this next year, and this is not something that you'll even be able to recognize, but everything we create beginning next year, everything is watermarked.

So I'm going to know what's live and what is AI.

You can't take any of my videos and manipulate me because there will be an invisible watermark that we know about and we'll be able to go, not Glenn, that's AI.

And the same thing with everything that we produce that is AI, it will be watermarked

and an invisible watermark that we'll be able to say, no, that's not truth, that's AI. And everyone who is producing this kind of stuff needs to do that.

And one of the reasons why I call it George AI is so everyone understands it's AI and not a person.

You know,

you said it looks great. It's out of sync.
The voice isn't right.

The features aren't exactly right, but it's amazing.

But in a year from now, it's going to be

remarkable. And that's when it is really important

that people understand. I was talking to somebody who just gave a talk at the White House yesterday.
She called me for

some AI.

talking, you know, some thoughts on this because she represents

families and moms. And she was asked by the president to speak to all of these producers of AI.
And she said, Glenn, what do I need to know?

And I said, you need to know that anything anthropomorphic must be marked, and parents must know and have a choice.

So, you know, any of these plush toys that have AI capabilities, I think they should be banned.

I don't think anybody should be able to make any kind of AI

doll, plush, anything that represents like a talking animal or anything else because the AI is going to get so good and it is going to be gathering stuff from your children.

And unless you have control of that,

you know, on our AI, when we actually release the full version of it, you will have an opt out. Do you want it to

be able to discuss things with your children and learn from your children on their educational stuff, not any personal stuff, just educationally.

Do you want it to evaluate educationally or not and learn from that so it can help your children learn better or not? And then all of that information goes into a vault that you would control.

You could say purge it and we would never use it for anything else but that. That requires a great deal of trust.

I don't know how many people would sign up for that, but that would give us an ability to help your child learn a little bit better, but it also requires us to learn or the system to learn about your child.

When you are dealing with corporations that you don't know, you don't trust, that information is going to go everywhere. And that's the kind of information that is going to go into these plush toys.

And they're going to learn everything about your kid and they're going to map everything about your kid. And it's not good.

And your kid will start to associate that cute little teddy bear that can talk to them just in a way that mom and dad don't understand. It is extraordinarily dangerous.
So,

thank you for calling in. Thank you for correcting me.
I urge you as an audience to help me learn this, correct me if I say it. I'm urging my, I know Stu will.
He loves to hammer me.

You know, if I make this mistake, to correct me immediately, because that is a grave, grave danger. It is a tool.
It is a machine, period. Thank you for that phone call.

All right, I'm going to take a quick break and come back. More of your phone calls.

We also have a great, we have Lee Strobel on next at the top of the hour. We're going to spend a few minutes with him.
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How do we even know that story is true? He's going to talk to us about that coming up in just a second. So stand by.
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Thank you so much. It's an interesting conversation, especially on who you trust with a lot of this AI stuff.

And voice of Jason Buttrill.

I was just reading about the Washington Post. They're trying to do similar things with AI, and they're having massive problems, it sounds like.

Just reading this one post on it about how their new AI personalization pods, which is like

a podcast thing where you can pick your own podcast, host all this stuff, and have them generate the content.

Their standard editor just called their mistakes with it frustrating and that they were, if they were serious about it, they were going to pull it immediately. Why? Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

May I guess what's wrong with it? Yeah. It's hallucinating.
It's making stuff up.

It's not giving accurate information.

Exactly. Misattributing, inventing quotes, massive hallucinations.
Hey, Washington Post, I could help you on that. Call me.
I mean, that's exactly why we're doing,

that is what, that was our number one thing. I said, we cannot do anything if that happens.
And I can tell you why that's happening because I think, I hope we've cracked this code.

You're not going to like the answer, Washington Post, but right now it is the only answer. Call me.
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All right, we're gonna have the case for Christmas, and I have a guy on. Now,

listen to the resume, okay? Listen to the resume.

Former award-winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune, New York Times best-selling author, sold millions of copies, journalism degree at the University of

Missouri, awarded a Ford Foundation Fellowship to study at Yale Law School, has his Master's of Studies and Law degree,

journalist for 14 years at the Chicago Tribune and other newspapers. He's won Illinois' top honors for investigative Reporting, Public Service Journalism Award for the United Press International.

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He

was an atheist,

has now served as a teaching pastor at three of America's largest churches.

He's been married for 50 years. His name is Lee Strobel.
Now, with that resume, up until the former atheist, you'd be like, oh, he's going to teach teach us about Christmas. Yeah,

he is.

Wait until you hear his case for Christmas.

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Lee, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm doing great, Glenn.
Great to be with you again.

Yeah, I love talking to you. I'm really excited to hear the case for Christmas.
Now, you were an atheist.

And

we've talked about this before.

Your eyes opened up. And how did you get to the place to where you're like, okay, let me see if I can make the case for the baby Jesus in the manger?

Well, yeah, being an atheist, my wife became a Christian, so I decided to try to rescue her from this cult that she's gotten involved in.

So that launched me on an investigation into the historical reliability of Christianity.

I did that for two years until I became convinced that, in light of the evidence, it would take more faith to maintain my atheism than to become a Christian.

So I became a Christian, ended up leaving journalism and so forth, and written many books about it.

But I wanted to do a book on Christmas because in the Christmas season, there seems to be more spiritual openness than any other time of the year.

Even when I was an atheist, I felt more spiritually sensitive during the time of Christmas. I don't know why.
I guess it's because it permeates the culture. And

I think it's because

we see hope, we see goodness in one another. It's different.

Yes, exactly. But how do we know that it's based on reality?

How do we know we can all enjoy the parties and the gift-giving and so forth, but how do we know it's really based on historical reality?

That's what really intrigues me as someone who's kind of a history buff.

Okay, so take me through that. How do we know? Well, we've, yeah, we've got two real early, independent,

but consistent reports about the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem 2,000 years ago. One comes from the Gospel of Luke.
Now, Luke was a, I love this guy. He was a first century investigative reporter.

He was a companion of St. Paul.
And Luke said, he didn't say, well, I'm going to tell you about something that happened in the distant past once upon a time.

No, he said, I carefully investigated everything so I could write an orderly account about the certainty of what took place. So he's claiming I'm writing about what actually took place.

I believe he writes from Mary's perspective.

I think he may have interviewed Mary. If he didn't, I think he interviewed Susanna and Joanna, who were friends with Mary, who he mentions in his gospel.
And then we have Matthew.

Matthew was also, he was a disciple. Matthew was

right there in the first century setting. He later became a leader in the church in Jerusalem.
And one of the other leaders was a guy named James, who was the half-brother of Jesus.

So James, I think, communicated to Matthew kind of the male, the guy's perspective of the birth of his brother Jesus.

And so here we've got, by the way, I was talking to a woman the other day and she has a young child and she, I was talking to her about this and she said, yeah, you know, if you ask my husband the story about the birth of our child and you ask me, you're going to get two different perspectives.

We're going to be consistent. It's the same birth.
You know, we're talking about the real situation.

So we've got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with each other. And then we have a very interesting report in the Gospel of Mark.

Now, Mark is writing based on the recollections of Peter, who is one of the inner circle with Jesus. And he starts his gospel later in Jesus' life.
So he doesn't have a birth narrative.

But interestingly, in Mark 6, verse 3, he refers to Jesus as Mary's son. Now, in first century Jewish culture, you would never do that.
You were always your father's son.

It would have been Joseph's son. Even if Joseph were already deceased, you would always refer to him as Joseph.
And no, he referred to him as Mary's son.

I think that was a wink to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Joseph wasn't his biological father.
And then we have John, who writes the last gospel.

He doesn't repeat a lot of the historical stuff in the first three gospels. He writes from a grand theological perspective about the incarnation.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. And then the word came into our world and dwelt among us.
So it was very theological.

But interestingly, John had a disciple who he mentored. And that guy wrote a letter.
And in that letter, he says Jesus was, quote, really and truly born of a virgin. Where did he get that idea?

I think it was from John who wrote the Gospel of John.

So is it concerning at all? Because I've heard this argument before.

You know,

when the gospels all say the same thing,

it's pretty clear. clear.
But

they can't even agree on the last words of Christ when he's on the cross.

And

does it matter? Should we be concerned that only two of the four Gospels talk about the birth?

No, I don't think so because, first of all, those are two solid sources historically and very early.

Mark gives this a reference to the fact that Joseph was not the biological father, and he also portrays Jesus as being the unique son of of God and and John of course it was a theological take on the incarnation is basically saying the same thing so no I don't think that's a problem and the the differences in the gospels I don't think are a problem either because you know as someone trained in law if you're in a trial and the witnesses get up and they all say the exact same thing you object and say, Your Honor, collusioned.

They got together, they worked out the story, and you can't trust it. But when you have different perspectives, people emphasize different things.

There's, for instance, a technique that was used in ancient literature that's used today called literary spotlighting. And what that means is somebody will focus on what one person is saying or doing,

and other people will focus on other people who are involved in the same scene. But it's not contradictory, they're just focusing on different aspects of the same scene.

So when you look at what the, yeah.

No, I'm sorry to interrupt.

I was going to say,

and then I have a question on this.

Sure.

When you look at the literary techniques that were used in the first century by other ancient writers like Plutarch and so forth, these historians, and you use those same literary techniques in writing the New Testament, these discrepancies between the gospels virtually disappear.

So let me take you here. And I believe in this story, but I want to push back as hard as I can on this.

You know, the virgin birth is so hard for people to accept. And especially once you look at Greek mythology, you're like, this is the same story.
They're just plagiarizing. This is half man, half God.

You know, this is Hercules.

So

how do you respond to that? Yeah, I actually deal with this in my book.

This is totally bogus.

This was invented by German theologians in the 1800s. In the early 1900s,

the Christians responded to it and answered it and refuted it. But now it's come up again, I think, because the internet has dredged up these old arguments.

So for instance, you've got the most famous example is Dan Brown in his book and movie, The Da Vinci Code, where he says, oh, well, you know, Christian just copied all this stuff.

He said, there was an ancient myth called Mithras, and Mithras was born of a virgin. on December the 25th.
He had 12 disciples. He died for world peace.
He was resurrected from the dead.

So now Jesus is just kind of plagiarizing that story of Jesus was invented by people and plagiarized from Mithras. Well, I investigate that.
And what do you find?

You find in the actual myth of Mithras. Number one, he was not born of a virgin.
The myth was he emerged fully grown, naked, wearing a hat out of a rock.

Well, I mean, it's the same thing.

I guess you could say the rock is a virgin, but I mean, that's ridiculous. Secondly,

born on December the 25th, well, so what? We don't know the date Jesus was born. That's not in the Bible.
The ancient records don't record it. Ancient Christians did not care about birthdays.

Third, he didn't die for world peace. He was known for killing a bull.

Fourth, he didn't have 12 disciples. According to one version, he had one disciple.
According to another version, he had two disciples.

He wasn't resurrected from the dead. There There is nothing in the myth about Mithras about him dying, and so nothing about a resurrection.

So all of these parallels, supposed parallels, disappear when you investigate what actually took place.

You know, people say, oh, Alexander the Great, you know, there was a myth that he was conceived by Zeus, the god Zeus. Well, even Alexander the Great's own mother, Olympius, said it's not true.

It's crazy. It's just a story.
It's not true. So every one of these supposed myths that predated Christianity,

none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem.

All right.

I'm going to take a one-minute break, and then I want to ask you about the one word, one Greek word that

shed new light on the traditional Christmas story. More with Lee Strobel here in just a second.

The name of the book, and it makes a great Christmas gift, and then you should buy it now and read it yourself as well. The Case for Christmas, The Case for Christmas by Lee Strobel.

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So tell me about the one the one Greek word that opens things up.

It really does change everything about the common perception of Christmas.

The common idea of Christmas that people have is that Mary and Joseph, because of a census, had to go to Bethlehem to register. And

they get there, and she's about to give birth. And so you go to a lodge or an inn, and the mean old innkeeper says, sorry, no room here, and closed the door in their face.

And so they go off to a stable, and she gives birth among the animals and puts the baby in a manger.

Well, what that comes from is just a sentence in the Gospel of Luke where he says, the baby was placed in a manger because there was no room for Mary and Joseph in the katalima.

That's the Greek word, the katalima. So the question is, what does that word mean? Does it mean an inn? There was no room at the inn? I don't think so.
And most scholars don't think so.

That's how it was translated into King James in 1611, but it's probably not the best translation. So let me explain something, how a house looked in first century

Bethlehem. There was one large room broken down into two parts.
The larger part was a living area. That's where people would live, eat, sleep.

And then there was a couple of steps down to a smaller area where the animals were brought at night. And they were like pets.

You know, they may have a couple of goats, a couple sheep, and there was a manger there. But because there was a couple of stairs up, they would sometimes come up in the living area.

Because, you know, how cute are they? They're little, you know, little lambs. They're like pets.
And so there was a manger also in the living area.

Well, some of the more wealthy people had a katalima, a guest room. It had a separate entrance, and it made their house bigger.

What apparently happened is that Mary and Joseph arrived in Bethlehem, and they went to the home of a relative and knocked on the door and said, Hey, we're here for the census.

And they said, Oh, that's great, but you know what? We got a lot of people here for the census. There's no room for you in the guest room, the katalima, but you can give birth in the living area.

And yes, there is a manger there. And yes, some of the animals may have come up the stairs because of the commotion and what was going on.
And

yes, the baby was probably put there in a manger. Now, in the year 1395,

John Wycliffe, who did a translation into English of the Greek Bible,

translated it as a guest room. The New International Version, which is probably the most popular translation in America today, doesn't use the word in.
It uses guest room.

Now,

Luke, in writing this account, He knew what word to use. Katalima, he uses it one other time, and in that other instance, it was also a room in a house.

There's another word he uses, andohaeon, which is a Greek word that means an inn. And he does use that word when he talks about the parable of the Good Samaritan.

So he knew if he wanted to use the word in, he would have used pondoheon, but he didn't. He used katalima.
And the conviction of most scholars is it just means a guest room. There probably was no inn.

And by the way, yeah, I know. It's kind of mind-blowing, isn't it, after all we've heard? Yeah.
And

the other thing is, in first-century Jewish culture, the value of hospitality was so high that

it would have been impossible for an innkeeper to turn away a pregnant Jewish woman. I mean, he would have been ostracized from the tree.
He would have run out of town on a rail.

It would have destroyed his business. You could not do that because the value of hospitality was so high.
And we don't even know there were any inns in Bethlehem. It was a small town, 500 people.

It wasn't on a main crossroads. There may or may not have even been an inn there in the first place.

But I think, you know, the majority of scholars, I think, would agree that the word really means guest room and not an inn.

That changes

everything.

It changes your whole vision of that. You know what I mean? That's

mind-blowing. I know.
It's just totally

that.

It is. And not only that, the image we have is that Mary is on the verge of giving birth as she's arriving and makes it urgent.
That's not in the text either.

It just says that while they were in Bethlehem, she gave birth. It doesn't say they're in Bethlehem five minutes or five days or five months.

Where the idea of the urgency comes from is a book of fiction that was written in 200 A.D., a lot afterwards. No real historical connection.

And in that fictional account, Mary and Joseph are approaching Bethlehem. They get three miles away from Bethlehem, and she had to give birth.

And so they went into a cave, and she gave birth among some animals in a cave. That's where the idea of a cave comes up because a lot of people envision her giving birth in a cave.

That's from a book of fiction that doesn't have historical reality written, you know, way, way, way later.

I have so many questions, Lee. Can I have you back next week? I have so many questions on this.

I'd love to have you back next week on this.

Because I want to talk to you about the Old Testament prophecies because people will say, well, they just wrote that in later because they knew he was a fulfillment.

So they look and they just jammed this story together. But you have the answers to all of that.
So I'd love to have you back next week. Absolutely.
Just let me know.

You got it. Lee, thank you so much.
God bless you. Merry Christmas.
We'll talk to you next week. You bet.
It's a fascinating book. You got to read it.
The case for Christmas.

Well, I mean, he just did. It'll turn everything upside down.

And I love those kinds of things, you know, that make you think and look at things in a new and different way. Lee Stroubble is, I think he's one of the best.

He's the author of The Case for Christ, but his new book is The Case for Christmas.

How you can know for sure

what was laying in that manger and where was that manger? Was it in the kitchen, apparently?

I don't know.

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I have to tell you,

the least rubble I love having on, I had Dominic Prosson on one year. This is early on in the show.
And he's a Catholic theologian.

And,

you know, he's a controversial Catholic theologian. But I asked him, I said, listen, can I have you on talk about the crucifixion, resurrection? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's Good Friday, Good Friday.

And we go for 45 minutes, and I said, now tell me, build the case for the resurrection.

Tell me, they take him down, they bring him to the tomb, and he's like, and he just said, oh, well, he didn't rise from the dead. And I was like, we're live on the air.
Okay.

Good Friday, 45 minutes into this, he tells me he didn't rise from the dead. And I went, wait, what?

No, he didn't rise from the dead. And he goes into Greek mythology and everything else.
And I went, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're a Catholic theologian.

You're a Christian. How do you not believe? And he's like, well, you know, I just don't believe.
It's because it didn't happen.

It was the worst ending of a show I think I've ever done, with the possible exception.

I was having dinner with somebody the other night, and they said, Glenn, I have listened to you since you made out with your sister. And I said, oh my gosh, you heard that show.

And it was one of the first shows I did on national radio. And I was making the point.

I didn't say this in advance, but I was making the point that if you normalize gay marriage, I could normalize pedophilia. I could normalize anything.
All you need is a good storyteller.

And I've been saying that for days. On the Friday, I get on and I said,

listen, I got to tell you why I'm so passionate about this.

And I tell this story about how when I was young, my sister and I went to the fair and I painted this whole picture and we were up on the Ferris wheel.

It was just magic and our eyes caught and we started to kiss each other. And I've been in love with my sister forever and we've never talked about it.
We never acted on it.

But don't condemn me for the, we started taking phone calls and I was turning people to my point of view, okay? Compassion.

Why do you hate? Why do you hate? Why do you hate? Why can't you recognize that my love is different than your love? And I was turning people and I said, more in a minute.

And I'm about to say, I did it in 30 minutes. You don't think society can do that.
Okay.

But we go to the break and it's right after 9-11 and George Bush has breaking news and he does a press conference, and it takes him 25 minutes. I have no time.

All of our stations break away for that press conference. And Premier calls me the next, that, that day, right after I get off the air, and went, what?

What are you thinking?

What did you just do? And I said, that's not what I meant. That wasn't the story.
It was a point.

They're like, we don't know if you're going to have any stations left tomorrow because they all want to cancel. And I'm like, oh,

that was probably the worst. Yeah.
Because you got preempted and no one could hear your rap. There's no wrap-up.
It did eventually come.

And for those people who lived through it, the next day, like every five minutes, I was like, no, no, listen, listen, that wasn't what I meant.

It wasn't what I meant.

So bad. It's been a roller coaster ride.

I know. Let me go to Eric in Pennsylvania.
Hello, Erica. How are you?

Hi, Mr. Beck.

I heard your monologue on the Pledge of Allegiance a couple of weeks or months ago, and I heard your frustration in it, and you were basically saying that you can

the two for government.

As a Christian, I'm thinking that you know about when Adam and Eve sinned, they basically rejected God and his rule over them.

Right?

Yes.

I missed a sentence. You cut out.
Yeah, you cut out. I missed a sentence.
So what is your what what did did I say in the pledge that you took issue with?

Well, you were basically saying that you can't pledge allegiance to two countries or flags.

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

So,

at that time, man was created to be ruled by God and not themselves, and that's why we see so much misery and suffering and death and crime and

cruelty. So,

God has allowed man to rule over him, over themselves for 2,000 years without success.

So in our hearts, we have to make sure that we are always going to believe that God is going to rule over us and everything will be all right. So then maybe you won't be so frustrated.

You know, you just have to have that. Well, I do have that.

I do have that faith, Erica. Thank you for your point here.
But I do have that faith. I believe that.
And that was kind of my point that, you know,

I will never do anything for my second citizenship, which my second citizenship is a citizen of the United States of America. America first, you bastard.

My first citizenship is in the kingdom of God, and I will not violate my first citizenship for my second citizenship.

And I do have that faith. I know that things get tough and awful, and I'm very frustrated at times, but I absolutely know God is involved.
He is not neutral in the affairs of man.

We may not like the way he's dealing with things. We may be like, really? Do we have to go through all this? But I trust that he's got it all under control.
Let me go to Dan. Hello, Dan.

Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Hey, good morning.

Listen to you talk about the AI centers and all that, and the power and

usage and all that stuff. That's, you know, that's all well and good.
We need it. We need the power.
I'm all for it. I'm all for nuclear power.

But what do we do about water that they're going to need for cooling? And

not the power, not the reactors themselves, but these servers suck up a crazy amount of water. Where's that going to come from? I know.

It's going to come from people if we're not careful. That's what's going to happen.

The power and the water are going to be diverted to these servers because they'll say they run our entire country and our lives, and without them, we won't exist.

And that's what I was warning about, first on power. Second, you're absolutely right on water.
There are some things, I think it was Microsoft

just used,

I believe it was their new quantum computer to come up with a new substance that's not water

that they can fully submerge

these

servers in,

and they work, and you don't need water, and they keep them all cool.

Another option, very expensive option, but another option is eventually put all of these servers up

in geosynchronous orbit because you have absolute zero in space, and that would keep them cool, obviously. But we're going to have a problem.

Nobody is really dealing with the real issues, and that is power and water. You're exactly right.
Steve, South Carolina. Hello, Steve.

Hi.

Real quick on George AI, I think the reason that you naturally said him is because it's a male voice. If you were talking to like Indira Gandhi or something like that, you would naturally say her.

But, you know, that's my quote. The thing I wanted to talk about was you talked about the Civil War and the seven steps towards it and all that type of stuff.
And

my thought on that, my thought on that was

I don't think that our country, I think everybody's too lazy. You know, I don't think they have the skill.

I don't know.

And I don't know who would lead. Like, who would America really fight for? You know, I mean, people love Donald Trump and everything, but I don't see them.

I don't see the cause to fight for the person that would inspire people enough to do that. And I wonder what you thought about that.

I mean, I don't disagree with your thoughts on that, but I just don't know what form it would take.

So I agree. I think it's ironic, Steve, that you're calling from South Carolina.
Probably not the call that I should have taken about a civil war. But

I think when you said, who would we fight for, who would lead, I don't think that a civil war will come because of a person.

I think it will become, a person would appear, and I'm not wishing for this. I think this is the worst possible thing that could happen.

But when you have no electricity, you can't afford food, you have water shortages, all the things, just what we're talking about today, just

take those things. If those things came to be, oh, and you also had constant surveillance under AI and people were split on this and going, I don't want that in my life.

Someone will appear, and the fracture will happen.

It won't be good. I mean, you know, you want to see the effects of civil war.
Rwanda.

Nothing good comes from civil wars.

Ours did, but it, again, like the American Revolution, I think that's the only one that ever has. Mark, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

Yes. Hi.

Can you hear me?

Yes, I can.

Hey, Glenn, I just want to say how much I love you.

I've been with you from the very beginning. And

I sat out in the rain with you in Utah here in Man of the Moon. I witnessed the double rainbow.

And

it was an incredible experience. I think I have a lot in common with you.
We're about a month apart at age.

Me, because of my health,

I don't know how much time I have left. And that's the reason I'm calling, really.

I've been accused by my family of kind of living in a bubble because I listen to you and I listen to other people

like you.

I have about four or five people I listen to that have podcasts.

And my family is very staunch left-wing. We've always been left-wing.
I'm kind of the oddball.

And

I need to know if I live in a bubble or not.

Well, do you only listen to those things, Mark? Do you only listen to those podcasts?

I do sometimes catch the news. I'll catch

Fox News. once in a while.

I listen to you and a few other people that are more independent, actually.

So let me tell you this, Mark. The best way to dismantle this argument with your family is say, who should I listen to? Who do you recommend? Who do you think is telling the truth?

And let me listen to them. But then will you talk with me reasonably about them and about what I learn?

Because I don't want to live in a bubble. Honestly, I don't want a lot of this stuff to be right.

I listen to the New York Times, read the New York Times, Washington Post. You know, you've got to read that.
I do it.

I don't know if I would do it if I were the average person

because I got better things to do than, you know, but you want to make sure you understand the other side. You want to understand them.

And so

if you want to make an impact with your family, I would suggest to you that you ask them,

who do you listen to? Who do you recommend? And would you make an exchange with me? If I listen to them and I'll talk to you about them, will you listen to Glenn Beck? And let's talk about that.

And we both have to have an open mind about it. Will you do that? Because you live in a world where you don't listen to any of these things.
Why am I the only one living in the bubble?

But it requires you to do both sides. Let me go to Rick in Ohio.
Hello, Rick.

Hey, Glenn and Stu. What a pleasure.
Save time. Thank you.
I'll make safe dittos.

Thank you.

Love you guys.

Miss them.

What I want to talk about is nobody brings up you, anybody else, Fox, Speaker Johnson, the president,

Obamacare and how this one-size-fits-all

and how you can't join together and form a group, like, say, if AMAC wanted to offer it.

And you talked to the President, what I thought was great the other day when he brought the firefighter up and the Poconos and worked 400 hours of overtime and the waitress just think if he brought a union member because big union state uh that had his group plan and then brought somebody else up who's on Obamacare and the price difference

I mean I was on it before I went on social security and it went from $300 to $900 for a single guy in no time.

And you're paying for, you you know, a young kid, say, 26. He doesn't want some of that stuff.

I never hear anybody bringing up, not that they can go into

all the details.

I will tell you, Rick, that

I'm tired of depending on these politicians because I don't think they're going to ever come up. They've already made up their mind that it is either some sort of hybrid or socialized medicine.

And those are not the answers. It's not the answer.
I don't know why we're not talking.

Where is the person with big ideas on healthcare that will completely change it? It says, look, we've been looking at this all wrong, and here's how it should work. Where is that person?

Where is that movement?

Those people might be out there, but they're not making an impact because you can't get a single politician to actually buy into it because they've bought into all the experts and all of the crap.

And quite honestly, most of them want this kind of of insurance.

And they just think it's, you know, it hasn't been done the right way. Well, Canada did it apparently the right way for a long time.
And look what's happening now.

It always ends in shortages and then the whole thing goes to hell. Thank you so much for your phone call.

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What a week it has been.

I can't thank you enough

for all of the thoughts and prayers. And please

pray for Jolene and Miles, who are the couple up in Canada. She's in the hospital with pneumonia

and we just, she's got to get healthy. And then we're exploring all the options, but money is taken care of.
The doctors are on it here in America. We can get her here.

We just need to know the right thing to do. But everything is taken care of.
And

mostly because of you, the audience, just telling everybody you know. Thank you for that Christmas miracle.
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