Living an Illuminated Life: Signs, Angels, God & The Universe Guiding You with Laura Lynne Jackson Pt 2

How do we ask for signs, whether it's from our higher power or from loved ones? How do we do that? What does that look like? How do they show up in our lives? How do we know it's real?

Here's where the magic happens. Coming up in this incredible part two episode with Laura Lynn Jackson, how exactly do you see signs and trust them?

How do you connect with your team of light or spirit guides? How do you know you're being guided and not alone?

and how can you use it all to live a more connected purpose-filled and love-filled life do you believe in signs angels god or that the universe is guiding you my guest today has become a global phenomenon sharing that you are not walking this life alone the amazing laurel jackson is the new york times best-selling author of signs the secret language of the universe and she has a brand new book guided the secret path to an illuminated life

when you learn to trust in the signs when you create that language you are now open

to this beautiful path of illuminated guidedness like you are just in a state of guidedness they will guide you they will show you and it changes things sometimes in small ways that end up changing your whole life.

That's the most powerful and beautiful thing for us to know that we are not alone, that the people we love are still with us and they want us to live vibrant, engaged lives of meaning.

For someone who's maybe been asking for signs from loved ones and they're not seeing nothing,

does anyone's loved ones just no show?

Such a great question.

No, they're probably showing, but they might be missing it. But I promise you this.

They're sending signs and be gentle with yourself if you're missing them, but nobody's nobody's loved ones ignore them or don't send them you say including pets yeah

all of us every single person listening right now actually has 10,000 grandmothers or more in their lineage so when we think about the power right that we can call upon can you talk about that because there might be someone listening that's like oh Laura Jamie I don't really have a loved one I want to talk to or I didn't have a good experience with this or that or can you talk about us maybe tuning into the to the energy and the beautiful souls we can tap into of maybe our 10,000 grandmothers?

Yes. Loved ones on the other side.
Nobody crosses alone. That's absolutely true.
We're all greeted by a team of light on the other side.

And what I've learned is the only thing we take with us is the love. That's it.
For the person who's listening going, gosh, am I going to betray my faith if I'm open to this?

What do you say to that? You know, I think that religions and having certain faith, it's like a beautiful vehicle to understand God and the love that God is. And I think that fear limits us.

Every decision we ever make here is either a path of fear or love.

Learning how we actually can receive signs, you can apply that whether you are looking for them from the universe or you're looking for them from a loved one or you're looking to deepen your connection with God.

You can apply these exact same things and go, okay, God, show me this sign. Help me feel you.
Help me hear the words you're telling me.

It can really apply and strengthen your ability to tune in to whatever it is you happen to believe in. Through your books, I mean, they're so profound and powerful.

And I read them and I'm like, this is the voice of God talking through Jamie. This is what we're all meant to know about our own light and our own worthiness and our abilities here and why we're here.

We all get guidance all the time, whether we're open to it or not. It's happening.

It's overcoming the fear of thinking, is somebody going to laugh at me if I believe in this or am I I afraid to have these abilities.

It's overcoming the doubt of your monkey mind going, coincidence, that can't be. It's overcoming that to trust it.

Because when we trust that divine guidance, oh, and that's when the magic really happens.

And we all have it. And we all have it.
It's already been happening for everyone listening, whether you've tuned into it or not.

Laura Lynn Jackson is an international speaker, teacher, and renowned psychic medium who's been certified by the Winbridge Institute for Applied Research and Human Potential and the Forever Family Foundation.

She lives in New York with her husband and their three children, and she's flown across country to be here in person in the JKL show studios just for you today.

So whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or somewhere in between, I think you are going to absolutely love this conversation.

And I cannot wait for your stories too on how signs, angels, God, and your team of light, as Laureln calls it, has shown up in your life too.

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How do we ask for signs, whether it's from, you know, our higher power or from loved loved ones. How do we do that? What does that look like? How do they show up in our lives?

How do we know it's real? Yeah.

And let me just say, when I met you at Godmothers, when I was talking about when you read somebody's energy and there can be this magnet pull, that's how I felt about you.

I was like, oh, she is so light-filled. I want to be her friend.
I remember thinking that. All right, but let's talk about signs.

Signs are all around us. And whether we recognize it or not, they're happening every day.

So when our loved ones transition to the other side, the number one thing they want to do is let us know they're around still. That love hasn't gone anywhere.
They're still guiding us.

They're still there. And so they'll try to get our attention.

And one of the first things they'll do is they'll mess with electrical devices. Like they used to love to flicker lights.
They'll still do that.

But now that we're in the age of iPhones, oh my gosh, pay attention to days that are important for whatever reason, phone calls coming in that don't really have a callback number, don't really exist.

And importantly, when you go to text somebody,

if the words in your text box suddenly change, pay very careful attention to what they change to, because that can be a way that our loved ones come through too.

They will put coins in our path, pennies, dimes, and nickels. And I'm always thinking, well, why? Well, I think when we're light energy, it's easy to manipulate small metallic objects into our path.

And I always say, if you find a coin and you have this sense of a loved one around, pick it up because the date on it might also be significant. There might be a double sign in it.

And they love to send creatures, as I mentioned before, that navigate our world using electromagnetic fields, right? Birds, butterflies, dragonflies, deer, fox, bats. Why?

Because I think it's easy for them to manipulate electromagnetic fields. They'll also sometimes send lookalikes.

If you've ever seen a person that just reminds you of your loved one on the other side, well, that's because your loved one placed them in your path as a hello. You might see their names.
up places.

You might go somewhere and somebody helping you has that same name as your loved one. You might see license plates that are important.

You might be scrolling through your social media and something your loved one loved as a hobby is coming up.

They'll do it in all sorts of ways, but what they really want from us is to talk back and create a language with them.

If you've ever learned a foreign language, it can be so exhilarating because every day when you learn a new word, there's more ways to communicate.

Well, that's what creating a language of signs with your team of light on the other side can be. You can ask God.
You can ask your spirit guides.

You can ask your loved ones, you can assign different signs to different people. So let's talk about four categories of signs that you can create and ask for.

And I always tell people, write them down. When you want to ask for signs, write who you're asking it from and what it is specifically.

I always recommend in the notes sections of your phone because we always have our phones on us.

But we can write it down old school if we want to. And here is what you should do.
The first thing you should ask for is a creature, but make it a little different.

Don't just ask for an elephant, ask for a purple elephant. Don't just ask for a dolphin, ask for a pink dolphin, or ask for like a platypus with a bow on it.
You could ask for anything you want.

Your loved ones now have a way to let you know they're with you, to send you a hug and a kiss, because they don't have arms to hug you anymore.

They don't have voice boxes to call you up, but through a language of signs, they can show you their presence. The second thing we want to do is come up with a number sequence we want from them.

Listen, I was a high school English teacher for almost 20 years. I love literature.
I'm a little allergic to math, but I have great respect for it.

And the other side has shown me that the whole kind of virtual reality paradigm we're living in is all based on like sacred geometry and math equations, right?

So I think it's very easy for our loved ones to communicate in numbers. And it can be a number that's meaningful.
It could be a birthday in the family. It could be a number like 1111 or 222

or a number sequence. You just think of however many digits you want, you're going to get it.
Now they have another way to communicate. Think of a song.
That's a wonderful way.

And they've probably already sent you songs too of their own choosing, but think of a unique song you want.

It could be because it's meaningful from when you were younger, or it could be one you just think of now.

And ask for them to send that. And then ask for a phrase.
And that could be any phrase that pops in your mind, love you more to the moon and back.

Or it could be something that was meaningful when you were younger, or just one you think of right now, anything you want.

But now there's four different ways that they can choose to communicate with you. And you can build on these signs at any time you want.
It's really, really beautiful.

So you can start by asking for a purple elephant, then you can ask for a hummingbird, then you could ask for an aardvark, you could ask for whatever you want. And the magic is you're going to get it.

And when you do, here's what's going to happen. You're going to go, I got my sign.
And then your monkey mind's going to try and smack that down and go, what?

And then you're going to think, okay, if that was really a sign, just send me one more sign to validate that that was a sign. Yes.

And then you get your second sign and your monkey mind's like, well, send me one more sign and I'll really believe it. And you get your third sign and you're like, now I trust it.

And then a week later, you're like, send me a sign so I know this is real. And that's just a natural progression to overcoming the doubt, right? Yes.

Fear and doubt are our greatest obstacles to really tapping in to our team of light and our higher self, right? So we just have to understand that it's going to be a little challenge at first.

But here's the thing. When I wrote my first book, book, I found that people would stay after to talk to me if I was doing a book signing or I was doing a workshop.
And they'd say the same thing to me.

They'd come over to me and they'd say, I have a story I want to tell you that I've never told anyone else.

And then they would tell me the most profound, deeply meaningful, loving story of connection, of a sign or a dream visitation.

And I would say to them, the greatest way we can celebrate our connection with our loved ones ones who have crossed, our team of light, is to tell that story to someone else. Because here's the thing.

I think so many times we're afraid that we're going to be laughed at or dismissed, but that's never what happens.

If you tell somebody your sign story or your beautiful moment of spiritual connection or your download or whatever it is, they don't laugh. What they say is, oh my gosh, that's so beautiful.

Can I tell you my story? And it starts this beautiful chain of light, of sharing these stories, of celebrating our loved ones on the other side, of recognizing that they're still right here with us.

And here's where the magic happens. When you learn to trust in the signs, when you create that language, you are now open

to this beautiful path of illuminated guidedness. Like you are just in a state of guidedness.
They will guide you. They will show you.
And it changes.

things sometimes in small ways that end up changing your whole life.

And the lives around you. And the lives around you know, if you trust it.

Okay, so

how do we ask for the sign? You said write it down in your notes.

Do you say it out loud? Do you just think it? These are such great questions. Anytime we direct our thoughts to the other side, they always hear us.

This is why sometimes I'll do a reading for someone and they'll say to me, can you tell my dad on the other side I love him or I'm sorry? And I'm like, he hears, I'm the go-between.

You know, like they want to talk to you directly. I'm I'm the third wheel.
And so I think anytime we direct our thoughts, they hear us. It's kind of like an invisible fishing line.

The minute we tug, they feel it. Same back, right? So anytime we direct our thoughts, they're going to.
get the message loud and clear. So if we want to create a language, we just have to think it.

Now, some people like saying out loud because it's more comfortable for them. And that's fine.
It's whatever, it's whatever you want. And you can make it as unique as you want.

And I think that this can be such a powerful tool to help you not only like know that your loved one is with you, but really get back on a very clear and beautiful path.

I think so many people, when we have people we love who's crossed, we get very stuck in grief.

You know, and grief is like a very winding road where one minute we're okay and then the bottom falls out. And time doesn't really matter.

You could have a loved one who crossed 10 years ago and then all of a sudden, for whatever reason, one day you feel like the floor has fallen out from under you.

So I think it's really important to to have this language created to know not only are they present, they're guiding us.

And to me, that's the most powerful and beautiful thing for us to know that we are not alone, that the people we love are still with us. And they want us to live vibrant, engaged lives of meaning.

They want to help guide us into that knowing, into that heart-driven life. So I think it's so beautiful when we crack our little monkey brains and say, okay, I'm going to try this.

I'm going to be open to this and I'm going to see what happens. For someone who's maybe been asking for signs from loved ones and they're not seeing nothing,

does anyone's loved ones just no show?

Such a great question.

No, they're probably showing, but they might be missing it. Or sometimes a loved one likes to do something really dramatic.
I'll give two examples.

The first one is, I remember doing a reading for a woman and her mom was on the other side. And I said, you know, your mom's been sending you signs.

You know, I know you're seeing some of them, but she's telling me to tell you, like, she's going to send you a yellow bird. And it took a while.
The woman was waiting for the yellow bird.

But do you know, on her birthday, a yellow bird came, flew, and like sat on her shoulder. And she messaged me.
She's like,

I've been waiting. And it's just that she wanted to make a dramatic, ta-da.
So I thought that was a really beautiful way to acknowledge her birthday. You know, it was like she wanted to have no doubt.

Yeah, it was really special. But I'll tell you this.
Now, I'm a psychic medium. You would think that I'm tuned into all the signs.
So, here's an interesting story: My father is on the other side.

When he crossed, my sister, my mom, and I, we went to the cemetery because we were trying to decide how we wanted his gravestone to look. And we just kind of felt connected a little bit there.

And we decided, like, okay, now we're going to go to lunch, but then we'll come back and we'll really figure it out.

So, we leave, we go to lunch, and we can't find a place for lunch. Finally, we find a bakery.
Now let me back up a step and tell you this.

About a month or two before, my mom had decided that the sign she wanted from my dad was a purple elephant. She wanted that to know he was around, he was watching, and he was present.

All right, so we go to lunch. We're headed back to the cemetery now.
And my sister, who is seated in the front seat, said, would you look at that?

And do you know what we had passed on the way to this little bakery? We had passed a restaurant called the Purple Elephant with a four-foot purple resin elephant outside.

And we drove right past it and would have missed it.

So I miss signs. But here's the beauty of it.
If we miss it, they're just going to circle back for us. They'll just keep trying.
They'll find a way.

And I always tell people, like, if you're getting frustrated, be a little bit more specific. Say to your team of light or your loved ones, like, look, I know you're sending them, but I'm missing them.

So I need you to have somebody say it to me, say this word to me.

Or I need to go, what they love to do is your social media feeds. Oh, did they send signs in there?

So you could say to them, listen, I need you to put this in my social media feed today or tomorrow or as soon as you possibly can and watch it happen.

So you can kind of ask for how you want to receive it if you feel like you're not getting it. But I promise you this.

They're sending signs and be gentle with yourself if you're missing them, but nobody's loved ones. Ignore them or don't send them.

That's so beautiful. And you say including pets.
Yes. Pets are amazing at sending signs.
Absolutely amazing. In like better, better than humans instantly.

My dog on the other side sends sign, like sent sign like the minute it crossed. Wow.
Yeah. We were at the vet and it died.
My dog Roscoe died very suddenly. I wrote about this, I think, in Signs.

And I walked out and there was a statue of the type of breed my dog was with angel wings right there, like as I was walking out. out.
It was really magical.

I was like, wow, how did the universe orchestrate that?

Right. But there's magic in it because you think, how did they know to get that there before that? But I think time is linear here for us, so we get confused, but there's a magic that goes on.

And I think when we open that language and we become guided by it, we catch on to that magic and magical things unfold. You know,

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And now more of this incredible conversation together.

When you talk about signs, just to share something that was probably one of the most profound signs I've ever experienced in my life is, you know, I was raised going to church and then I went through this maybe decade plus period of like not believing God existed.

And I was around so many people in academia and I was living in New York City and just so many people I was around just thought if you actually believe, whether it's in God or probably in what we're talking about or in anything else, they just,

you know, unless you can see it and prove it and it's right in front of you. And I went through this long period of

internally doubting God existed. And I'll never forget that someone said to me,

well, you know, what makes you think God can't handle your doubt? Why don't you ask him to like show you, prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt he's real?

Like, what makes you think he can't handle your doubt? If he's created the whole universe, if he's created everything, what makes you think he can't handle your doubt? And I was like, okay.

And so for the next few years, I literally asked God for signs.

And I would, if I was praying for a friend who was sick or something like that, I would end the prayer with, and by the way, God, I'm doubting you exist.

So if you can please show up in my life and just show me beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're real, I'd be very grateful. In Jesus' name, amen, is how I would literally end these prayers.

And this took a few years. And Laura Lynn Jackson, it, holy moly, like some of the things that would show up.

I mean, we, I remember building at Cosmetics, we were like broke, like teetering on bankruptcy for years and

getting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of no's. And this went on for years.
I mean, it was just like barely keeping the lights on. And we,

the, the biggest thing that ever happened that changed the trajectory of everything was getting one shot on QVC. And

when I was at this huge trade show, there were 6,000 women. And I'll never forget QVC had this huge booth there.
They had been telling me no for years.

But a woman walked up to me and tried our product. I was demonstrating our product.
It was a big trade show. All the top brands in the world were there.

And no one had really known who we were, but I still had it. I got a table and I was demonstrating.

And she came up and she tried the product. And she went and told a buyer about us.
I went up to that buyer. The buyer says, oh, you know, she just came up and told me.

Long story short, she was a QVC host of 17 years.

And we flew out, had meetings. We got one shot on QVC.
And this is after them telling us no for years.

I learned I had to sell over 6,000 units of product in a 10-minute window to either hit their sales goal or not come back. I mean, it was the craziest thing.
Everything was on the line, no pressure.

And if it didn't sell, we had to take it back and we weren't paid for it. It was consignment.
We would have been done. Everything was on the line.

And I took this huge risk because I trusted like that knowing I had. Yeah, of of like putting all different ages and shapes and sizes of real women as models.

And long story short, they paired me with that woman who came up to me. Her name is Lisa Mason, who came up to me.
They paired me with her as the host for our launch.

And we, at the 10-minute mark, we sold out and tears are streaming down my face. After years of being told no, and we weren't the right fit, we'd never make it.

We started going on again and again and again. Eventually, we built the biggest, what became the biggest beauty brand in QVC's history.
So we did over a thousand live shows. Now, she retired.

She left QVC shortly after we launched. So now fast forward a few years, I call her up and I say like,

when we hit number one, we hit the number one beauty brand in QVC. I call her and I say, had you not like loved our product so much? Cause she loved it.

And I said, if you didn't love it so much, if you didn't, you know, do everything you did, like there's no way that, you know, we would be, you know, thank you.

It was like, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for loving

this product. And she says, and this is yours later.

later she has nothing to do with anything right uh with qvc or anything and she says well honey i just need to tell you that day at the trade show she's like uh you know your product's great i wear your product it's great she's like but that day of that trade show i was walking and god told me i need to go up and help this girl and she's like all i did was listen she's like that's all i did was listen and and

There's just been so many things like that that have happened where I'm like, okay, because my monkey guided to you. She was guided.

And it was, and I had been praying and asking for signs, like, God, tell me you're real. Because guess what? A lot of people in my life say that you are not.

There's people all around me that think I am crazy for being a Christian. There's, I mean, on and on and on.
And so for me, it was a number of years of praying for signs, like

overt, I can't deny it signs. And they continue to show up.
They continue to show up. So I believe in this so strongly.
And

I love that there's so many different ways and areas we can use it in our life.

I have a very close friend who's built a billion dollar business and she literally will ask, like, if this, is this decision correct? Am I supposed to hire this person?

Am I supposed to, you know, do this, make this move in the business? And then she'll ask for signs, right? Whether it's from her higher power, from the universe.

For her, it's more the universe. And she waits until that sign shows up.
And if it doesn't, she, she does not move. She doesn't take the action.
Like she has that clear of trust in it.

So there's so many ways. So she's living a guided life.
Yeah. That's it because she has so much trust in it.

And the woman, Lisa, who walks up to you was living a guided life on an illuminated path because she was open and guided to you. And this is the magic that happens.
She transformed your life.

You transformed the lives of thousands, millions of people with your beauty products and stepping into your highest path and your light energy and everything that's trickled down in light from that.

And you're such a person of light, right? So we're all so interconnected. Isn't that so beautiful? I love, and it's exactly what you said.
Like, so she's walking this illuminated path, right?

And, and she hears this knowing, go up and help this girl. And, and by the way, everyone in that whole room wants to be on QVC, 6,000 people with beauty brands.

And she just, she trusts, she's living that path. And then all of a sudden I get a shot.
And then we go on. And then it's just like this whole, um, this whole thing is so beautiful.

I, you know, I want to ask you about that in terms terms of how we can all tap into that.

I remember the first time ever walking into Godmothers bookstore in Summerlin, started by Jennifer Rudolph Walsh and Victoria Jackson, mutual friends of ours, but also a place that's just become iconic and legendary.

And it's just, it's magical.

But I remember the first time walking in and you walk in the front door of this bookstore and in Summerlin, California, and there are pictures of women on all the walls who almost are our, you know, chosen godmothers.

They're just iconic women who've just put out amazing offerings to the world. And there's a single light bulb on the front table.

And it's just like this like, you feel like it's a living experience of an aha moment walking in a door, whatever that means. But it's like, I just remember feeling that.
And

the essence of godmothers or godmother figures in our life.

And you talk about and guided, and you've said this before that all of us, every single person listening right now, actually has 10,000 grandmothers or more in their lineage.

So when we think about the power, right, that we can call upon, can you talk about that?

Because there might be someone listening that's like, oh, Laura, Jamie, I don't really have a loved one I want to talk to, or I didn't have a good experience with this or that.

Or can you talk about us maybe tuning into

the energy and the beautiful souls we can tap into of maybe our 10,000 grandmothers or other godmother-like figures? Well, I love that you're bringing up godmothers. Let me address that first.

I love that it says to the godmothers that have lit our way. Yes.

Walk in. Yes.
Magical. And personally, in my own life, Jennifer Rudolph Walsh has been a source of light for me.

Books are out in the world because of the light of her and what she saw in reading the first one. So that bookstore is extra.
straightinarily powerful to walk into, especially for me.

And I love that I met you there. I think that the universe is guiding people into our paths all the time in the here and now.

Like living an illuminated life is not just being in a state of connection with our team of light on the other side.

It's being open to the people we're guided to, to the experiences we feel a little pulled to, to the things we're like, logically, I shouldn't say yes to this, but spiritually, I feel I'm meant to.

Like tuning into that and knowing that and understanding that can be so profound and so important. So I think that there's myriad ways that we're guided both in the here and now and by the other side.

So let's talk about the team of light on the other side.

Yeah, sometimes people can say, well, you know, I had a difficult relationship with this person on the other side and I really, I'm not open to that right now. What else do you have for me?

What else is over there?

Well, as I said before, sometimes I'm doing readings where somebody's grandparent steps in or great grandparent who they never met, but that person knows everything about their loved ones here's life, like the person in their family's life.

And if you think about all the people that came before us for us to be born, it's mind-boggling.

And that cells hold memory. Like if you start looking into epigenetics, it follows how like our cells hold the memory of our ancestors.

And I think what we don't realize is we can call on the light and the connection and the power of those ancestors anytime we want. We can ask them for guidance.

We can ask them to step in because we're here because they fought so hard to find a path of light in their lives, to bring through families, to create, to do things.

Like we are so connected to those who came before us in profound and beautiful ways.

And I think opening to that truth is a whole nother level of understanding who's on our team of light and how to be guided.

For the person who is like, okay, I'm totally down to try this.

I want to, I want to be guided. I want to be open.
And they're probably thinking, I'm still going to doubt it when it happens, but I'm going to be open and I'm going to doubt it less.

I'm going to doubt it less. I'm going to ask for another sign and then another sign and I'm going to triple check and I'm going to ask for one again, exactly as you shared.

How can we start to turn our monkey mind off and start to open up to this? Like you mentioned, you have a switch. Like you have a switch.
You know how to do this. Well, we all have it.
Yes.

It's just that so many of us shut it down by age seven. It's just as easy as saying, I want to open back up to it.
Show me, guide me.

And, you know, there's a 21-day rule that's been studied by scientists. And the idea behind it is if we do any one thing for 21 consecutive days, it sticks and becomes a habit.

They tested this with people who were self-declared pessimists and they had them write gratitude lists for 21 consecutive days, just like those five things you're grateful for.

And by the end of 21 days, they self-reported that they were now optimists. Right.
So it's about energy and belief and all that. Right.

So if we make a commitment for the next 21 days to try being open to this sign thing, asking for a sign and recording whenever we think we've had a moment of spiritual connection, whether it's feeling chills because we hear about somebody else's story and it's like validation of spirit, or we feel the presence of a loved one, or we have a dream visitation, or some people see like orbs floating, right?

Or we get a sign that we've asked for, or somebody has been put into our path who we just feel has been guided to us for us to be open to, or we see a license plate with a number or initials that are significant.

Let's look for the next 21 days. And every time we get a sign or a moment of connection, let's write it down.
Let's just record it. Because what we're doing is we're being open to that experience.

And whether you get it every single day for 21 days, or you get it every other day, or however it works out, we're in the mindset of celebrating that connection.

And what will happen is by the end of 21 days your monkey mind is gonna sit down and shut up that's what's gonna happen and then you're on a guided path

I love this so much okay I want everyone listening if this feels right in your gut or you have that you're like I love how you open this interview where you're like well if you're listening to us right now I think that's your team of light who guided you right here to hear this

no coincidences

if this feels even slightly right to you try this 21 day challenge. Try this 21-day challenge.
And then when signs start showing up and you write them down, I want you to also post it. Okay.
Tag me.

Share it. Share it.
Tag me. Tag Laureln Jackson.

I would love to repost your signs and your stories and just like these beautiful expressions.

Because I also think that when we come together and when we share stories like this, or when we exactly what you said earlier, when you're like, you're, you're going to kind of feel vulnerable.

Oh, I want to share with this person that I had this experience, but am I going to be judged? But the second you do, they're like, oh, that's so beautiful. Here's my experience, right?

So when we come alone, we have these shared experiences. We're willing to just put it out there as well.
All of us feel less alone, more enough. And we form this community of light.
Yes.

And that light, those beams go out very far. Those beams go out so far.

Can you talk about what an aura is and why does this matter? And

I know science has what is a biofield.

Yeah, scientists will call it a biofield.

I call it an aura. It's the same thing.
It's the idea that there is an energy field that emanates around our body,

a few feet. And every one of us has it.
Every one of us has it. Yeah.

And if you get really science-y, you can start looking into Karilian photography and something called the torn leaf experiment, which if you want to go on a deep dive, go do that.

It's about cameras that can pick up imperceptible light. We all give off light.
And it will show like where your energy fields are.

The torn leaf experiment was a thing where they put something under a very sensitive camera, a leaf, they tore half off, put the half torn leaf back down, and the light energy imprinted of a whole leaf.

Because the idea is that that's the aura, that's the energy field that was programmed there. But we all have an aura.
And it's kind of interesting to think like, well, what's in your aura?

Because the people you've been hanging around with, their energy is in your energy. So sometimes we just need to be a little bit mindful of what we're bringing into our energy fields.

And we're going to kind of set the intention to clear it sometimes.

Sometimes people will have rituals to do that, like smudging, which is burning dried sage as an act to get rid of like any energy, negative energy that's in your energy field.

Some people love to work with crystals and like, um, you know, create a crystal grid. There's a store in LA I love called Open Eye Crystals with a girl named Madison who does the best crystal grids.

If anybody feels like diving into that deep dive, I always feel like you should listen to things that pull at your soul, right? That you might want to do.

But our auras, you know, if we're around art, that's going to be there. But our intention is also in our aura.

So if we don't set an intention with our team of light, it's kind of like we're waiting for something to happen. We don't really know what.

If we set an intention, now we have clear guidance we've asked for or a mission that we're on. So I think it's really important to be mindful of that.

When I do readings and I read somebody's aura, I see everything. I see their past, their present, their future.

I see kind of timelines with lines drawn down of like important moments or decisions they've made because I do think that we're all on a journey here. And I think it's a beautiful, wonderful journey.

And the whole point of it is love. You know, you brought up before what your mom was sharing about being crossed over by loved ones on the other side.
Nobody crosses alone.

That's, that's absolutely true. We're all greeted by a team of light on the other side.
And what I've learned is the only thing we take with us is. We need to pause for a super brief break.

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We're all greeted by a team of light on the other side.

And what I've learned is the only thing we take with us is the love. That's it.

Everything else, it's like if you have a colander and you're just like things fall through it, it's like what's left is the love. That's what we take with us.

So I love that that was something your mom was able to leave you with before she physically transitioned. That's so beautiful.

You know, when we think about

how we feel, how we feel around other people, how you said sometimes we're allergic to someone. Sometimes all these different things, and you think about people's auras.

When you walk in a room and you just feel like,

like all of a sudden, just a lower vibration, or you feel kind of a, um,

you know, what I love, or you have to interact with someone at work.

You do not want to, you always feel awful after, or there's someone you love, but they're very much an energy vampire, whatever it might be, any of these things.

Um, you talk about a tool I want to, I want to have you share with everyone because this is so good. We can all do it, it's free.
Um, you talk about white lighting our sauce, white lighting ourselves.

Can you explain what that means? Yeah. So it's a visualization we do because thoughts are energy and our thoughts matter more than we can imagine.

Our thoughts are made of light and thoughts lead to actions. But every thought we have either puts more light into the world or adds darkness.

So even if we have negative thoughts, it's important to like talk over it and reprogram it. But this

really quick meditation everybody can do is just visualizing this, right? Using our thoughts to visualize an image.

And the first thing we always want to do is do a little bit of breath work because what I've learned from the other side is that the moment our soul connects fully with our physical body is when we're born and take our first breath.

And the moment it dislocates and leaves is when we take our last.

So anytime we breathe, we're automatically hitting the reset button on that three-way triangle of our spiritual light energy in our physical body being steered by the ship of our free will, right?

So it's like a way to get rounded back into your spiritual self. So you just breathe in really slowly and fully through your nose and out through mouth.
And you do that three times.

So in through your nose and out through your mouth

and in through your nose

and out through your mouth. And now if you're comfortable closing your eyes, you can close them, but you're going to visualize a beautiful sparkling white light lake of energy above your head.

And it is so expansive and so abundant.

And then you picture it coming down over your head like a waterfall, encapsulating your head, going over your shoulders, going down the length of your body into the ground.

And what you have just done is you have honored your spiritual light energy and you've created a clearing force field around your beautiful sacred energy and everybody else's.

I love doing this in the grocery store and at Costco. When I'm going down an aisle and I can tell, woo, red energy, that person's had a bad day, but I can't awkwardly turn my cart around.

I'm going to have to push past them.

I'll just white light myself with my eyes open i'll do that little meditation nobody is any wiser and i can walk right past the person without having that kind of negative energy stick to my aura so this can be a really helpful tool we can all use and it protects us it protects us any of it penetrating yeah us and you'll feel different when you do it to us you do you feel different yeah you just mentioned too about

thoughts we have. If we have negative thoughts, it can put negative energy in the world.
If we have positive thoughts, and I am

recently on the show chelsea handler was on and she was saying that her she's transformed a big part of her life because she used to sort of like you know

you know talk about this or what kind of thing she said she will not even put negativity in writing yeah she won't text anything negative she won't if she gets invited to do 10 podcasts and she only wants to do two of them she won't say anything negative about the other ones even in an email like she is so mindful of it and she says it's transformed her whole life yeah chelsea is amazing and she completely practices what she preaches.

And she's a force. And I think she's a teacher here to others.
So yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's beautiful.

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And I actually recommend reading all three of yours in a row because I think, like, I love how you also just sort of like explained their journey.

And

for this book, just to really ask you this for the person listening, who is this book for? This book's for everyone. Like if this book has crossed your path, it's found you for a reason.

You might not believe in anything. You might

completely already have a great relationship with your team of light. You might be skeptical but open.
And by that, I mean a true skeptic is not a closed-minded believer.

If you're closed-minded, be like, this can't be possible. It can't happen.
Well, read it anyway, if even if you're a closed-minded believer.

But if you're a skeptic and you're saying, I don't know, there could be something to this, but I don't know. I want to explore it.

Well, I think that's the most powerful thing we can ever do here is to recognize we're all on journeys of discovery.

You know, I was raised by two teachers and they always taught me to be a critical thinker in the world.

And a critical thinker doesn't just like listen to what somebody says and just take it, hook, line, sinker, and adopt it as their own, you know, beliefs. They go on a journey of exploration.

And I think that's what Guided invites you to do.

It questions you, like, reflect on your own life, recognize maybe the ways you've already been guided and recognize the ways that you can open more to that guidance and what that might transform and do for you and for others around you.

So I really think that it's for everyone. Yeah.
I have a lot of people in my life who have really strong particular religious beliefs. And

they are very, very closed to anything that might be beyond exactly what they were taught.

And so my question really is about, because I know you work with so many different people and I know you've worked with a lot of people who just

love you and love your work, who also have very strong religious beliefs. So for the person who's listening going, gosh, am I going to betray my faith if I'm open to this?

What do you say to that? You know, I think that religions and having certain faith, it's like a beautiful vehicle to understand God and the love that God is and how we're interconnected.

But it's like one person might drive an SUV, another might drive drive a sedan, somebody else has taken the boat there, somebody's taking a train, somebody's taking an airplane, but it's all getting you to that destination.

So I think there's beautiful light and validity in all different religions, but I think it's all the same God.

Call it whatever you want, like, you know, the universe, God, life, energy, force, whatever that word is for you, it's that thing that's greater than each and every one of us, but part of us at the same time.

So I think even if you have a really structured belief system, but this podcast found you,

it's a reason for that.

You know, and I think that fear limits us.

And I think one of the reactions people can often have if they have a set belief system that they're worried they're going to portray, well, what is that really about?

That's a little bit about fear of exploration. So I think every decision we ever make here is either a path of fear or love.

And the fear path will tell you, like, well, if you do that, X, Y, or Z might happen. And da, da, da.
You get kind of stuck in that.

But if you open to the love path you might say like oh well this is a change or an experience or something that's being offered to me maybe I'm meant to explore it and see where it leads me and I'm gonna just be open and loving about how that's gonna be in my life so I think that can be a really beautiful opportunity to choose the love path yeah you know and I love to use so many of the tools that you talk about

in guided

You know, there's so many people that write into me every day and say things like, I, you know, I'm trying to hear my intuition, but I can't, or I'm trying to hear God, but I can't.

I'm trying to, it is, I'm trying to, you know, that kind of thing. And what I was just thinking about as you were sharing this, the words you just shared is that.

So many of the tools in here, the four C's, learning how we actually can receive signs, you can apply that, whether you are looking for them from the universe or you're looking for them from a loved one, or you're looking to deepen your connection with God.

You can apply these exact same things and go, okay, God taught, you know, show me this. God, show me this sign.
Talk to me this way. Help me feel you this way.

Help me hear the words you're telling me. It can really apply and strengthen your ability to tune in to whatever it is you happen to believe in.
Yeah.

And on that note, it made me think of what I've learned from the other side, which is if we want to hear God, if we want to connect with God energy, our teams of light, whatever that place is that's going to guide us, doing things like going out in nature or creating art are wonderful ways to shift your energy into a state of openness with the other side.

The other side tells me no artist ever works alone. There's always a collaboration from like the other side, God energy team of light with that artist to bring it through.

You'll hear this a lot from writers, from painters, from all sorts of people, songwriters. They'll say, it didn't come from me.
It came through me.

And I think, oh, wow, that's true for all of us. So anytime we create art, we are like God.
God is a force of creation, right? Exploration, beauty, love. We dive into that.

We don't have to be experts. Again, materialistic world's going to tell you, don't even paint that or sculpt that or try to write a song unless you're an expert and you can monetize it.

And that's so not true. It's the act of doing art, bringing that through us that connects us to God energy, right? That lights us up, that gets us on that illuminated path.

And then going out in nature, we get quiet. You know, everything has energy.
Everything is energy. It's so magical and beautiful.

And I think a form of meditation is called a walking meditation where you literally just go outside and walk. In Japan, they have forest bathing.
It clears your energy.

In Scotland, doctors prescribe walks to their patients as therapeutic means of healing. So I think there's something really profound to that too.

So if you're somebody who's sitting here and this podcast found you and you're like, I don't know how to even start this. How can I hear God? How can I connect with my team of life?

How can I open to this? Go do art. Go for a walk in nature.
Those are two ways to kind of dive right in and get there. Yeah.

They're kind of like cheat codes. Yeah.
And I remember, you know, both of my books, Worthy and Believe It, I didn't, I swear to you, I feel like I did not write a word.

I felt like it was completely came through me. I feel like it was God moving through me.
And that's why when they, when the publisher wanted to do a third book, I said no.

Actually, when they wanted to do a second book, I said, no, because nothing's coming through me. Yeah.
Like, oh, we have ghostwriters of other.

I'm like, no, no, no, but for me, I want to, I, I know if it's right, if it's like flowing through me. So I, so then it, I waited and until worthy became a download.

And, and so, but it, but that's how it felt, right? It just like literally, yeah, literally came through me. We were like, whoa, like, whoa.

And, um, and I have moments like that all the time where, and then I'll just end up like, I'll write it really quick and note something that I don't remember.

So I don't even know where that came from, but that felt like that's something that's supposed to be, you know, that's like some kind of divine download.

That's just like, or I get them for friends a lot.

I get them for friends a lot.

Yeah. And I'll tell them.
And yeah, there's some crazy stories. And, but, you know, so I'm very, I try to be very open to it.
And you are.

You know, I think you're one of the greatest examples of somebody living a guided, illuminated life. Not only in your own, but you're a teacher for others.

Like even just exploring this topic on this podcast, you're becoming the teacher for so many people. You're opening that door for them through your books.
I mean, they're so profound and powerful.

And I, I read them and I'm like, this is the voice of God talking through Jamie.

This is what we're all meant to know about our own light and our own worthiness and our abilities here and why we're here. So I love that you recognize like that it came through you like that.

And I love how authentic you are where you're like, no, I'm not going to just have a ghostwriter write something for me on some random topic. This has to come through me.

I think if we all get into a state of openness and connection like that, what magic could happen, right?

You say we all have this. You say we are all.
I have been in rooms. So, so I haven't even, there's so much to share and I'm so excited.
I'm, by the way, I'm sharing 1%

or less of what's in Guided, which is why everyone needs to grab their copy. It is so good.

And every one of us, like when we even, I can just speak for myself, when we start to feel like we're living an illuminated life, we want a whole lot more of that light.

Like it sure feels a whole lot better than our monkey mind or any of the other things. And I feel like it's a really individual journey too.

You might be listening now going, there is no one in my life right now, they're going to think I am nuts if I'm like, I'm about to tune into my team of light.

I have found Loreland Jackson that I'm so blessed with my family. I have five families through adoption.
It's all these things. I wouldn't change a thing.
I love them.

They all vote different, love different. But I feel like I learned about, you know, okay, how can I help in some small way heal humanity through love?

First, you have to understand the humans that make it up. So I'm very grateful for, you know, how different from me all my families are.

But what I want to say is there's been a number of times in my life where I felt something was right in my gut, but no one else around me did. And

even when, you know, Paulo and I, my husband Paulo, when we launched at Cosmetics, there was a number of people that thought we were nuts, right?

For me to give up my job in journalism, for him to give up his job in banking and for us to just go all in on a beauty company and then for the years and years and years where it was not working they're like so you haven't paid yourself in how many years but but that feeling inside it was like trusting trusting that feeling trusting that that we were being guided trusting every time i prayed i was like i'm supposed to be doing this and trusting it so what i want to say is that if you're listening right now and you're like i have this mudge where I'm supposed to kind of open myself to this, but no one in my life is going to think I, listen, I just have to say there are so many things in my life that never would have happened if I would have done what everyone else around me was doing.

If I would have, you know, if I would have shared some of my hopes and dreams with some of my friends at the time or people I was around or coworkers, I would have doubted myself out of my destiny.

Like, so if you're feeling a nudge right now, like, oh, I want to be open to this, you don't need to go telling everyone about it and asking their, like, if you feel it, you know, I love what you said.

Try this. And don't believe Laurel Jackson.
Don't believe me,

but but try it in your life. And maybe it's you know, someone who you love dearly and you just want to connect with, and maybe you just ask them for a sign.

Maybe it's you know, your creator that you were like, God, I want to believe you're real. You know, let's come up with the language together so I know that you are.

But just whatever it feels right to you, I want to encourage you to be open to it and to not worry if the people around you don't get it

or don't immediately or might think like this is just a little bit off. And,

you know, you were, you were a teacher for two decades and

now you are probably one of the most well-known teachers on a whole different level

and

psychic mediums and best-selling authors.

I want to ask this for the person listening who maybe says, I feel like I

maybe have these abilities. I know you say everyone does, but they say, I think I have these, but maybe I don't.

How did you not doubt yourself out of your destiny when you were, you know, working as a school teacher and then deciding that this is actually some a gift that you have?

And I'm asking that really for everyone listening who maybe has that feeling or that knowing that they also have a gift. Yeah, you know, I was really guided to teaching.

I write about that and guided my own experience with someone who came into my life.

I think the universe, our teams of light, God sends people into our paths to help guide us in the here and now, right? So I had been pre-law and I at the last minute changed and became a teacher.

And I loved teaching so much. I really did.

But I was doing... my psychic mediumship in secret.
I tested for an organization. It's a nonprofit called Forever Family Foundation.
And it was founded by Fran and Bob Ginsburg.

And they had lost their daughter, Bailey. She had crossed crossed to the other side, but they started getting signs and messages, and they felt like this is real.

The afterlife survival of consciousness is real.

And they wanted to create a safe space for people who had lost, mainly like parents initially, but then it expanded to anybody who had lost somebody they loved on the other side, to be able to explore this with mediums who were.

proficient and able to do what they said they could do and also volunteering. So doing that, you know, just to volunteer their services to help people in grief.

And so I had tested for that in 2005 while I was teaching because I've always had these abilities. And when I had my first daughter in

2000, like they just, the volume switch got so loud. So I tested for Forever Family Foundation and I was volunteering and I loved it, but I was doing it in secret.
Right. And then somebody at my job

signed up to go to like an event that I had volunteered to do.

And they're like, is this you? And I was like, oh no. My husband's like, you have to go tell the principal now.
And if you can't, they tell you you can't do this, you can't.

And I read all about this in the light between us, my journey to this, right?

But, but the universe, God, placed people in my path who guided me into owning these beliefs, right? So my principal was like, this is amazing, who's around me?

And her mom came through and like, all this information. So she called the superintendent and I got permission to carry on.
I could still do this, even and teach at the same time.

And at one point, I went to a psychiatrist and I was like, you know, I'm hearing voices. And he's like, well, what are the voices voices saying?

And I'm like, well, it's the person's grandmother who crossed saying she's really excited about the new baby that was born in the family. That's middle name is after her.
And he's like, carry on.

That's beautiful. So every time that I hit what could have been a roadblock that would have really made me, you know, maybe shut down or turn the other way.

Instead, beautiful people were placed in my path that were like, there's your path. Keep going, keep going.
So then it came down to me trusting what I got.

And I got a download one day when I was on hall duty that told me, you're going to write a book, you're going to be a speaker, you're going to teach this in the world, it's going to go to TV.

Like, I saw all this stuff that was just mind-boggling, nothing I would ever come up with.

And I came home from school that night, and I told my husband, There's something I need to tell you, I'm gonna write a book, blah, blah, blah.

But he knew me so well by then, and he had seen so much evidence of this that he just took it in stride. He's like, Okay, all right, we're gonna be doing, you're gonna be doing this.

And within 24 hours, everything started just magically falling into place with this, right? It's just,

you know, it's, I was guided. And I think this is the thing.
We all get guidance all the time, whether we're open to it or not. It's happening.

It's overcoming the fear of thinking, is somebody going to laugh at me if I believe in this? Or am I afraid to have these abilities?

It's overcoming the doubt of your monkey mind going, coincidence, that can't be. That's not materialistic paradigm.
That can't be. It's overcoming that to trust it.

Because when we trust that divine guidance, oh, the

illuminated path that's before us, then that's when the magic really happens. But it's our job.
It's our free will to decide. Am I going to open to that? Am I going to trust it? And we all have it.

And we all have it. It's already been happening for everyone listening, whether you've tuned into it or not.
Good. Laurelny Jackson.
Thank you so much, everyone.

Go grab your copy of Guided, The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life. It is out now.
It's out right now. Where are the best places for everyone to connect with you?

First of all, okay, my Instagram and my DMs are going to blow up. So where are the best places for people to connect with you? You know, I really look at myself like a teacher, as a teacher.

Still, I'm just teaching people to access this, right? So I'm on Instagram under Laurel and Jackson.

I have a website, laurelinjackson.com, and I have a newsletter people can sign up for. And I just send all and every event that I do.
I love teaching workshops.

Um, and I love, I'll try to do gallery readings here and there, just to try to get to some people where I'll go in a room and try and read as many people as I can.

Um, you know, and I look at like that as like modeling what's possible, right? But nobody ever really needs me, and I tell everybody that I'm like, go home now, do this yourself.

I love that you tell everyone that all the time. Like, you can, you don't need me

to connect with your loved ones for the past. You don't need me to connect with.
Yeah. And I think that's beautiful.
And you have your event also. You know, it's funny.
You mentioned your

event at the Omega Institute that you do once a year. You mentioned it in Guided.
And when I read that, I'm like, oh, this event is going to sell out now forever.

And I've been to the event and it's incredible and beautiful. I have to tell you,

the first day of the event, we're in a room. There's maybe 500 people, 400 people, something like that.

500, something like that. And a woman stands up and is talking to another woman and she says, I'm here.

I just met this woman right here named Nina and my mom is Nina and I've never in my life met another Nina.

And I lost my mom two years ago and I've never in my life met another Nina. And my best friend was with me, Jackie, and she turned to me and started sobbing.
She's like, your mom is here.

And it's just, the event's beautiful and so many. So that event you do once a year.
And that's your only like weekend longest. That's my only weekend one.

And I'll try to do maybe one day workshops and things like that. I just like getting people to open their energy to recognize they can do this themselves.
Yeah.

And I love the collective energy at, you know, workshops because we all come together and it's just this multiplication, not addition of like light energy and goodness and connection.

And that story you just shared, like that's the magic that happens. Yeah.
It's so beautiful.

And I love the room because it was people of all different backgrounds, all different faiths, all different experiences just coming together to be light and love and just connect.

And it's all called in. We're all called in.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I've loved being in conversation with you.

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