Episode 791 | "Dude Code"

4h 24m

The JBP kicks off their latest episode as Elliott Wilson walks back his comments about Cam’Ron (24:30) before the crew dives into the latest on the back and forth between Cam & Jim Jones (36:52). Marc Lamont Hill is watching the Lebron & Drake relationship unfold (1:02:04) which leads the room to discuss guy code (1:07:44), Liangelo Ball gets a deal from Def Jam (1:47:36), and the price gouging in LA following the wildfires (2:01:19). Also, Jimmy Butler’s financial battle over child support (2:33:28), Beanie Sigel using AI to assist with his voice (3:00:54), and much more! 

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Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 First of all, you're in a great mood. Amazing mood.
The Lord woke us all up this morning, allowed us to meet today. Could not be happier.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or somebody, or whoever, Corey.
The universe. The universe won't.
Even though the scientists now, let me just tell you, Corey, and then I'm not talking to you no more for the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 The scientists are saying

Speaker 1 that the universe they believe to now have a start point.

Speaker 1 And if it has a start point,

Speaker 1 then that proves that

Speaker 1 something started it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that something would have to be, they did all that.

Speaker 1 Spiritual, transcendent, able. They did all of that.

Speaker 1 Is you a non-believer? Is you don't believe in God? I knew you was an atheist. They got through it.
Do you believe in God? Of course I believe in God.

Speaker 1 But you one of them niggas that get around like your friends that believe in something else and still argue for that side. Nah, I can see how it ain't a God.
Oh, he's a cosplayer. I don't.

Speaker 1 Now, my man told me that he prayed one time, nothing happened. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I forgot. It's with the church as a kid.
I forgot. You ain't crazy.
Them Virginia churches.

Speaker 1 Them was the ones, nigga. Those were the ones that didn't.
Fresh out of slavery, nigga. Those were the slavery churches.

Speaker 1 With the pitchforks.

Speaker 1 Sam. The KKK churches.
First off, I went to church in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't. You went to Georgia, Virginia with the assembly lines.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What? I know that church. You know the church, man.

Speaker 1 All right, lining up, boys.

Speaker 1 You're still something, ain't you?

Speaker 1 Cut your hand off. He went to one of them churches.

Speaker 1 The pastor, the other pastor. I was going to say that.
Different communion, boy. Black blood.

Speaker 1 Drinking your man. Drinking black blood.
That's your man. Drinking black.
That's your blood.

Speaker 1 I'm in a good mood today. Me too.
Just letting y'all know, I got a whole lot of sleep this weekend.

Speaker 1 Sleep like you would think somebody is.

Speaker 1 But nah, we thugging still.

Speaker 1 we still thugging

Speaker 1 you know what i mean

Speaker 1 you had clothes on while you were sleeping i'm here dressed yes all right cool i didn't

Speaker 1 i learned i lied i lied if i do it again you just got me you got me

Speaker 1 i'm calling cat man you you you say you got a lot of sleep i got a lot of sleep man i was on instagram

Speaker 1 And it was about midnight. No, it was maybe one or two.
I'm home. My wife's out of the country

Speaker 1 for the week. Oh, so you was home? That's nice.
Go you. You was home.
Go me. No, the point is, I was on Instagram and you weren't asleep.
And you weren't asleep. And Amani wasn't asleep.

Speaker 1 Y'all were at the Shaky Butt. The one at what? No, what? The strip club.
Y'all don't call them that around here in Jersey? No. No.
The Shaky Butt? Young family? No. The Shaky Butt?

Speaker 1 I was exploring you not to do that. I don't know what you're doing.
No, that was my first time ever hearing the Shaky Butt. The Shaky Butt.
Well, you know, you learned something new.

Speaker 1 Well, we were at the Shaky Butt.

Speaker 1 Well, not yesterday. I didn't say it was yesterday.
The other day.

Speaker 1 I had the con flip to coming out.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm opening with Dario. Parks was out of town.
He was going to meet us.

Speaker 1 He was handling some B.I. I want to see Flip throw some bread, man.
No, you don't. Why? I saw that.
I saw that flip.

Speaker 1 It wasn't good for him.

Speaker 1 It was good. You got to go out a couple more times.
Yeah. You know what? It's the wrist.
At the end of the day, you guys are haters. That's number one, number two.

Speaker 1 I haven't been in the strip club or threw money in a long time. So I forgot the format and how you.

Speaker 1 It looked like your first time. You just catch me.
Nah. You just catch it.
Not your first time in the strip club. Your first time throwing the money.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I mean, when I walked in there, you know, they know me. Yeah.
I'm Flip.

Speaker 1 Happy to see me. You guys are men.
But it's

Speaker 1 really happy to see you.

Speaker 1 He asked me to ask you. Flip knew a lot of people outside, which shocked me because when people don't come outside, I from the rip assume it's because they're afraid of what might happen to them.

Speaker 1 So Flip don't go outside.

Speaker 1 So I just thought that he was fearful of his life.

Speaker 1 But he came out and once, once, small he with me. Oh, he was safe.
Smalls, he with me, man. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Smalls did act. Small say yo, is he with you? And then Smalls gave me a hug and cracked a joke.
No, you knew Smalls. I was like, oh, shit, he knew Smalls.

Speaker 1 Then you knew the streaming nigga that pressed me.

Speaker 1 You knew some of them gangs I pressed me? Tylil. Tylil.

Speaker 1 Tylil, shout out to Tylil. He pressed me.
The streaming dudes think

Speaker 1 you up.

Speaker 1 They want to catch me on that stream. Fabio foreign them niggas.
Smoke up.

Speaker 1 No smoke all in in them niggas' faces. They didn't love it.
Shout out to Tyler. I got to piece it up with the streamers.
I do.

Speaker 1 Yo, if you're watching this and you're streaming, actually, you're not, because all you niggas do is stream.

Speaker 1 Y'all don't know no world outside of streaming. Shout out to y'all, though.
We're going to piece it up this year. Now, he was outside, so you know some world.

Speaker 1 So Flip knew the little gang member dudes.

Speaker 1 Crypto dude was there.

Speaker 1 Blew a nice

Speaker 1 75. He blew a nice 75.
He was a diarrhea watching him throw some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't have diarrhea.

Speaker 1 Those crypto dudes are a little bit disrespectful.

Speaker 1 They don't throw money regularly. They beat the girls with the money.
And I was watching it.

Speaker 1 He hit the head. Wow, just taking it.
Wow. He said, yo, look at her.
Just taking it.

Speaker 1 If somebody wants to throw 75 grand on me, I'll take it. I told you you want to throw it.
I said, look at her face. Look at her face, Joe.
She don't like that. Joe said, that's not true.

Speaker 1 She got hit in the head, niggas. You hit her so I hit her with a knot, nigga.

Speaker 1 So after a few hours, Flip did get a stack. He got some money.
Okay, I got a stack. Yeah, cool stack.
Yeah, he got some money. Imani came in.
Biggie Smalls hypnotized. Yeah, he.

Speaker 1 Biggie Smalls hypnotized immediately.

Speaker 1 No money, just blowing, just running his mouth, hypnotized, gazing, gazing in the eyes. I remember that I used to work in Cindy's.
Yo, shout out to my Jersey Cinderella niggas, man.

Speaker 1 On Cindy's little dollhouse action. Back in the day, though, before all the murders.
Dollhouse still open.

Speaker 1 I know, I'm blown away by that, too, by the way. Still open.
Yo, Imani a different nigga when it comes to certain individuals in the club. The nigga,

Speaker 1 he was in a trans. He was in a trans.
Like, he. He was what? Like, he was a trans.
I think you mean trans. Oh, I thought he said a trans.

Speaker 1 Very nice. He was in the trans.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, he was in a trans.

Speaker 1 What club y'all went to? No, Border Pussy. He was in a trans.

Speaker 1 He was getting nuts.

Speaker 1 Y'all.

Speaker 1 Hell.

Speaker 1 He was in a trans.

Speaker 1 And then the crypto nigga threw money. And once he he hit Imani in the face with the bread, then Imani got out the trance.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 You know what I like about Joe?

Speaker 1 The money was falling on nothing. I'm watching Joe.
Joe just cool because he understands the game. Not me, nigga.
The money started hitting me.

Speaker 1 I started getting up, getting uncomfortable, putting my hands in my pocket, walking in the circle. Did you shake something? Nah, they just throwing.
They're just disrespectful.

Speaker 1 They just throwing money. But when Imani came, he was in

Speaker 1 his zone, the money money hit him. Wow, woke him up.

Speaker 1 He started, he said, Yo, if it hit me again, he threw it again, but not on purpose, but they're throwing it at the women that's in the area, and it's hitting us. So,

Speaker 1 niggas was throwing that money on y'all. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie, I felt the way, but it was raining on y'all.

Speaker 1 The nigga came after me. Did you pick any up? The nigga came after me.
Might have been for you. The nigga came after and whispered to Joe and said, Yo, you know, I fuck.
We fuck with you over here.

Speaker 1 We fuck with you, nigga. Like, you up with us.
Oh, wait, you down with the crypto, bro? I ain't like that shit at all. No.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just respected outside, man. Yeah, he didn't say that.
They love me outside. You know we fuck with you, Joe, but they ain't say it.
They walk right past me.

Speaker 1 The niggas they ain't with the brand. I didn't care.
I get loved outside. It's only on the internet where I'm a fucking

Speaker 1 human bestiality and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Only on the internet do these crazy things get said, man. But I'm in a good mood.
I'm sorry, just one more thing.

Speaker 1 I brought this up not just to reflect on your field trip, but to point out that I didn't get an invite.

Speaker 1 That was the point. I was home without an invite.
I would have liked an invite. I would like an invite.
Would you like to? wait?

Speaker 1 See, you focus on the wrong part.

Speaker 1 Probably not. What are you saying in the group chat before? Oh, that sounds dope.
I'm not going to go. I'm not going, though.
I said, where's it at? Yeah, where's it at? I'm not going, but.

Speaker 1 But I might have went the next week.

Speaker 1 That was the Girls Love karaoke joint. Mark, just so we're clear, I never would think to invite you to the strip club.
Like, I think that your wife has, like, a really short leash on you. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not allowed to get it.

Speaker 1 I'm coming in and telling the truth today about what I think.

Speaker 1 You walk out the door at 12:45 a.m. of what house? I just don't think that when I picture you.
You know what? You know what? Withdrawing. You're at it.
Nah, nah, I know what you're about to do.

Speaker 1 There you go. But if I was already out, I would stay.
I was about to say. That's the issue.
I was about to say.

Speaker 1 I was about to get uniform.

Speaker 1 I can't walk out the house at 12. I'm going to leave the house at 11.
Nah, nah, the pot ran late, man. What you doing? You got to go to the house.
He's going outside at 5 p.m. Just

Speaker 1 dressed for the night.

Speaker 1 He weighed that Bob out in the walk a lot.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's about 630 now. Yeah, no, that's it.
I leave the house at 11, yo. I can't walk up my house at 12:45.
No, no, no, I gotta leave the house at 11.

Speaker 1 Bitch, you got a formula to how you leave the house, bro. Like, I get it.
He wear the trench coat to hide his little outfit.

Speaker 1 You wear the burberry trench. That's why coffee is your excuse.
I'm going to Waba to get a coffee. You know, that's your shit.
You go there, you stay working. They have a coffee.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. I got an espresso in my house.

Speaker 1 It's the P.O. box.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, the hoodie store, the P.O.
box. The P.O.
box is.

Speaker 1 One of my workers' car broke down on the highway. On the house.
I got to go check on the house. Got to go check on one of these.
Your P.O. box be near the

Speaker 1 POSH.

Speaker 1 It's right by Lookers. Them P.O.
box is by Lookers?

Speaker 1 Right by Lookers. The P.O.
box. I'm still not off for shaking us either.
He stepped on it. Shaking us, they're going to get you.

Speaker 1 We got a a good laugh at that for another five minutes. Y'all was talking about some other shit.
We still agree.

Speaker 1 Oh man, man, big man.

Speaker 1 Hootie-hoo. Yep.

Speaker 1 Working out here, moving and shaking. That's it.
That's all the attention you get, man. Big Emmy L, nigga.
Never quit, nigga. Don't stop believing journey, nigga.
I'm for you.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm proud of you, nigga. Thank you.
I doubted you. I was the first one.
Yo, get out of here, Packet up.

Speaker 1 She jumped on her audio fucked up, Packet.

Speaker 1 You came like Queen Sheba, nigga. Correcting me.
Yeah. Yeah.
I see that meeting Greek. I just corrected.

Speaker 1 Not just correct. Hey, pack me up.
No, no, see, she'd be nice. Come on, give me your bag.

Speaker 1 Smoking on that impromptu.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Smoking on that impromptu. Get this shit off for all the shit he did to you.
Now, in the meeting greet, the nigga smoked, so pass him blunt. Look, pass him a blunt.
Look, so much grace.

Speaker 1 So much grace in class. You're lucky, boys.
Always. You're lucky she got grace in class.
I ain't gonna lie to you. Your angle.
Smoking on that, huh?

Speaker 1 Smoking on that left skin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nigga, what's up? Stop! JBN, nigga, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, listen, I'm in a great, great, great mood today. I have no idea why.
I think my BM are getting too comfortable with me, too. Your who? My baby moms.

Speaker 1 Isn't that a good thing? Yeah, I was about to say, what's the problem with that? I mean, it is a good thing. She texted me over the weekend, hey, running to the mall.

Speaker 1 Just in counting and buying some new clothes, Dev, you You want to send something over?

Speaker 1 So, I sent something over. Naturally,

Speaker 1 yeah, you got to stop that as a baby dad, though. You can't do things you would naturally do because it's a trick.

Speaker 1 Because I wanted to send a text, but I didn't. Just say, hey, big dog.

Speaker 1 Ain't that supposed to be

Speaker 1 ain't that like one of the things

Speaker 1 when you do the monthly shit?

Speaker 1 Ain't that included?

Speaker 1 You just can't can't say that.

Speaker 1 You just can't say that. So I didn't say it.
I backed about it. I just got about it.
You just sent it. I just sent it.

Speaker 1 Just sent it.

Speaker 1 Look at y'all. Y'all.

Speaker 1 But ain't it.

Speaker 1 It is supposed to be included, yes.

Speaker 2 I would think so, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm going to ask y'all later about Jimmy Butler and the $55,000 child support. uh increase and how y'all feel about it so even if y'all run away from this it's coming back i'm gonna get y'all.

Speaker 1 It's coming back. It's definitely coming back.
All right, I was gonna start with some jam, uh, jam and cam, with some, with some cam and gym, but too close to home,

Speaker 1 too close, too close, and and my heart is heavy. My heart is heavy over this.
All right, who's ready to go? We all,

Speaker 1 why the fuck not big MEL?

Speaker 1 Live your life, girl.

Speaker 1 Mike, check, mic, check. one, two, one, two.

Speaker 1 Mike, check, mic, check, one, two, one, two, one, two. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So happy to be here with y'all.

Speaker 1 So happy y'all are here with me. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the happy couples out there.

Speaker 1 A lot of y'all popping out, revealing your significant others. And baby, y'all popping out with the babies.

Speaker 1 Lot of babies lot of pregnancies out there shout to y'all all the happy couples all the miserable couples couples wherever you might be listening from

Speaker 1 wait a minute

Speaker 1 everybody who can walk out the house past midnight y'all mean

Speaker 1 shout to y'all

Speaker 1 shout to the hay listeners all the subgroups out there

Speaker 1 All the dope boys and the dope girls out there.

Speaker 1 All the streamer niggas out there, what's good, what's good?

Speaker 1 Always for the ladies, always for the

Speaker 1 flattle nigga with the solid gold fate. All that nickel and dye shit.

Speaker 1 Don't do the sauce, I read the ride report.

Speaker 1 Shoot through the city like

Speaker 1 threatening the newspaper had to be

Speaker 1 broken.

Speaker 1 Stop for the best say cheese. You know they wanna take a nigga picture.
Delaware B-board, Carolinas.

Speaker 1 You know my stomach's weak from living

Speaker 1 on these streets for real. Shut down, see if you can see it.
Detroit, what's going on out there? What up, y'all? Just a quick tip, chips, tips. That's where the cream is.

Speaker 1 Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, do now.

Speaker 1 Good, y'all, good, y'all, good, y'all, good. Good, good.
Hey.

Speaker 1 The Carolinas.

Speaker 1 Sandy ain't gonna stand prayer in the hearts and when they lay still.

Speaker 1 I'm letting go, I'm letting it go.

Speaker 1 Look, I used to speed excessive. Bull flocks, this Jay-Z, man.

Speaker 2 You guys are fucking funny.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the children listening. Everybody in school,

Speaker 1 everybody in college.

Speaker 1 Lord, I pray you forgive. Everybody on bed,

Speaker 1 everybody needs to

Speaker 1 most cases when the blazer won't miss you.

Speaker 1 Case in point, make bullshit an itch. I see it to the end.
I'm writing so personal, my heart bleeding through the pen. Make no mistake about me.
It's only one nigga living, I got half a kick about me.

Speaker 1 I got nothing about the killer, friend, local fam, not drugs, and vet me. Few people understand that love.
Make a nigga die bleeding, it's nothing.

Speaker 1 You make a motherfucker die breathing, and you're saying something.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That mood is a custom up. You're walking in the press, a lot.

Speaker 1 All the podcasters out there, entrepreneurs out there, nine to five is out there. You're walking in the press, it's a hustle love.
Spend money all night.

Speaker 1 Robinfellow.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Voice nice and well rested, huh?

Speaker 1 Sounding like I got a good 82 in the talk.

Speaker 1 Play with him if you want it, okay. there.

Speaker 1 Keep this applause going for the best cast in the world.

Speaker 1 One of the largest podcasts in the world.

Speaker 1 Not just urban, not just urban.

Speaker 1 We number one over there, but I want to bang with the whites. You know what I mean? We number one over there, but get me in the mix with the rest of them niggas.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Look, look, look, look, look, look, look.

Speaker 2 I got fucking small hands, a soft mouth, okay?

Speaker 1 I'm doing just fucking

Speaker 1 mouse.

Speaker 1 And that is not Mel's drop.

Speaker 1 That's not Mel's drop, but I am going to have fun for at least two weeks with the button.

Speaker 1 I am. And Flynn and Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark.

Speaker 1 What episode is this? 791.

Speaker 1 Welcome to episode 791 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by Fewed By, Powered by Prize Picks, Prize Picks Gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here, and fully dressed host Joe Button here with a few really amazing people to my right.

Speaker 1 Come on, man.

Speaker 1 That didn't sound quite

Speaker 1 male. There we go.

Speaker 1 Big male huh. Legend in this shit.
Fuck is they talking about? I don't know. Another legend out there.
Queens flip. Queens get the money, huh? All-star lineup.
Big-ish.

Speaker 1 Wisest in Irvington. Come on, man.
Stop playing with us.

Speaker 1 Stop playing with us out here, huh? Scholar that got shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dual lives. He's like fucking the jackal himself.

Speaker 1 Big freeze, the freeziest. Y'all know him, man.
Tormented you niggas out there with some tweets, you bitch-ass niggas back in the day. Ask around.
Ask around. Huh? Mr.
Ph.D. himself.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Stop playing with him. Stop playing with Big Mark Lamar Hill.
Huh? Took a stand on CNN voice.

Speaker 1 I don't know about it.

Speaker 1 I don't know about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes all that black repping shit, it hurts.

Speaker 1 He bugged it, he bugged out with that. Just got the gig, too.
Just got the gig. Just got the gig.
But listen, God works in mysterious ways. That's part of bringing you right here back, back home.

Speaker 1 That's it. Back home with your people, goddammit.
Mark Lamont Hill, Doctor, is in the house.

Speaker 1 Parks Elmira's finest is here. What's wrong? Poe is here.
Corey is here. Erickson is here.
Ian is here. Keep is here.
Savon and Tanna are here by remote. Happy.
What did they say?

Speaker 1 Hey, nobody got fired. We didn't downsize.

Speaker 1 Look in the ad.

Speaker 1 Look in the ad. Add some ensemble cast members.

Speaker 1 I mean, everybody's here. No trouble in sight.

Speaker 1 Gorgeous outside, actually.

Speaker 1 No mysteries.

Speaker 1 I mean.

Speaker 1 What you want me to do? What do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 Hey, invest in the business, man. Got to invest in the business.
How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's going on in your mind, hearts, your souls, your spirits? Talk to me, talk to me.

Speaker 1 Feeling good. What's popping? Feeling great.
Everything is great. Last looks, last looks, limp brushes, lip balm.
Oh, last look. All that shit that y'all like to do.
You know what I mean? Last look.

Speaker 1 That's just what you're saying. Take that Steeler shit off.
Season's over, bro. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I lost a bet.
Oh, that was

Speaker 1 your last look. Oh,

Speaker 1 shit.

Speaker 1 That explains. Wow.
Damn, man. You got purple toes.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Ice.

Speaker 1 Ice is changing.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 my God.

Speaker 1 You sick. Yo, you look so funny in Ravens merchandise.
I'm a man of my word, man. Who you bet with? My cousin Andrew.

Speaker 1 He hit the ball. Big Ravens fan.
He was like, yo, you know.

Speaker 1 What was you going with? Some bread. With the kicks.
He didn't even want the bread. He was just like, yo, you got to go in there and wear the Ravens shit.

Speaker 1 Whole pod. Holy shit.
Purple of the toes. That looks crazy on you.

Speaker 1 It looked crazy buying it. Oh, that's sick.
I was sick in the store. You were the list?

Speaker 1 You're going to take it back? I was was sick in the store.

Speaker 1 Better bet.

Speaker 1 Better bet.

Speaker 1 Better as a bet, man. What's popping? What's popping, Mel? Glad to have you back.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
How was your weekend? How was everybody's weekend, man? Mine was fabulous.

Speaker 1 Mine was good. Y'all know I spoke about what was going on with my grandmother, asked for the prayers and stuff.

Speaker 1 She had a setback, but as of this morning, she's doing better. Good.
Shout out to grandma. Happy dear.
Yeah, that's great news. Good dear.
I ain't going to say nothing about Aunt Phillips' funeral.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Would you like us to ask? Nope. Okay.
No. I ain't asking.
Rest in peace to Aunt Phyllis.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my family. Woke up Saturday morning, attended services, and that's all you get from me.

Speaker 1 I know what that means. Yeah, you was watching people in the past.
I know what that means.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 You went physically? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't say nothing to nobody in my family about it neither, but maybe my mom.

Speaker 1 So, rest in peace to me. My father told me what it was.

Speaker 1 Was it one of them things where you had a bunch of money? I think Aunt Janice put it together. I don't know.
Look, let me ask you.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you. Let me ask you.
Was it one of them things where you looked at your mom and y'all was on the same page without saying no words? Well, no, because my mom was seated inside.

Speaker 2 Excuse me? So, where were you?

Speaker 1 In the car? Didn't let you in? No, I didn't. I didn't.
No, Mom.

Speaker 1 Please don't ask me. No, you gotta go.
I was basically on the property.

Speaker 1 I get it. What happened to Aunt Phyllis' funeral, bro?

Speaker 1 Not a man that's late neither. We sent one of my favorite aunts off with a blast, man.
Shout out to Aunt Phyllis. That's all it matters.
That's all that matters. Rest in peace, don't forget.

Speaker 1 That's it. We had a blast.
Happy home going. They went out.

Speaker 1 They did it.

Speaker 1 They did it.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.
Go do it, Joe. No, no, no.
No, I'm telling you, I'm in a good mood. What are we doing? What are we doing? What we doing? What are we doing? Where you want to start? Where you want to go?

Speaker 1 Anywhere in the world? What we got? What we got? What we got? What it? Give me a take. Give me a take.
Give me a take. Give me a topic.
Topic, take, take, take. How you feel? How you feel?

Speaker 1 How you feel? Topic, take, take, bold, take, bull, take, bull, take.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 what we got? What we got. You want to start with Cam and Jim?

Speaker 1 Got to.

Speaker 1 I mean. Nah, I don't want to, but

Speaker 1 yeah. We kind of have to.
No, we do have to. Cam and Jim.
It's heating up.

Speaker 1 So Monday came and

Speaker 1 everybody was waiting for Monday. Correct.

Speaker 1 Before you say a word, I do got it. I'm shouting out Cam

Speaker 1 for the return.

Speaker 1 That is how you return.

Speaker 1 It was over the plate for him. That thing was 300,000, 300,000 views in two hours.

Speaker 1 That That thing was moving like hotcakes. We as a people love a mess.

Speaker 1 I know that we don't never want to say that. We love to see a mess.
Boy, do them numbers jump when it's a goddamn mess outside. So yeah, but then he doubled back.
He got Elliot on episode two.

Speaker 1 What's that three? Which, yeah, which you commend for.

Speaker 1 Being able to invite people that you had smoke with or that had smoke with you or negative things to say about you on your show.

Speaker 1 That is a skill.

Speaker 1 That means you put in the gig first. So before we get into anything, I do want to shout him out.
That's how you fucking return the show. He's doing it.
Ellie walked it all back.

Speaker 1 Of course. He walked it back with Savon, which is fucked up.
We love a mess. What he said on that other show, Down the Dow, took off.

Speaker 1 The cleanup was on Savon's show, and that's family, but didn't get the same traction.

Speaker 1 So I'm glad that he was able to go on Cam shit and clean it up. Elliot, yeah.
For 2025, stop that take, Elliot. That's a bad thing.
I really like the retort of, I wrote too. I was a rapper.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was great to me. Yeah.
Elliot was a rapper? No, no, Cam.

Speaker 1 Please go to Starbucks, please.

Speaker 1 Please go to Starbucks and get a hot apple cider for me.

Speaker 1 Elliot's thing is usually like... I'm a journalist.
I'm a journalist. I've been writing.
I've been telling stories, blah, blah, blah, blah. These rappers, athletes, so and forth, so forth, are not.

Speaker 1 Got it. But Cam's retort was: I wrote too since I was nine years old.
It wasn't in the same format, but I'm a writer, too. Still was writing.
I understood it.

Speaker 1 And he told him, People don't give a fuck about all of that writing shit today. It's personality-based.
If you're out there chasing a guest, then you already lose. Yeah, that is a fact.

Speaker 1 Like, he was honest with him. None that I haven't already told Elliot a million times, but whatever.
Elliot wasn't all the way wrong, though, either. And what? He was like in 90s.

Speaker 1 He was 90% wrong.

Speaker 1 He was all the way wrong. What's his 10% that he was right?

Speaker 1 And he didn't say it well because he was all the things on that show.

Speaker 1 But I think what's missing is when you are a journalist and then you open up the space to everybody who's not journaling, I'm fine with that. I don't care.

Speaker 1 But it can be confused and people can start to think that that other thing is journalism. And the danger of that is two things.
One, it changes your expectations.

Speaker 1 Like every time Shannon Sharp interviews somebody and people get mad at what he didn't ask and what he didn't do, it's like... He's not a journalist.
He's like, that's not what I do.

Speaker 1 Don't expect that of me. But to me, it also gives the guests an out.
Because now they go to the places where they don't actually have to confront a journalist. Politicians do it all the time.

Speaker 1 They go on these shows that aren't going to ask them real questions because they don't have to. So that's the audience thing.
The second thing for me is,

Speaker 1 you know what? I'll leave it there. For me, that's the big issue.

Speaker 1 I got a problem with your very first sentence, and I'll toss it right to you. Because in real journalism, that doesn't take place either.

Speaker 1 It's very, very few platforms nationwide where the tough questions are asked. And that's in any forum, in any genre of journalism.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if we barely ask questions, though, it's not unique journalism anymore. This ain't the sick, I don't even think it was happening back then.

Speaker 1 But it's not just about the tough question, it's also about the preparation that goes into it. It's about knowing the story, reading the story, being informed on the story.
Those are things.

Speaker 1 It's ethics.

Speaker 1 But a lot of times, you got these folks that'll come in there and say, Yo, we're not talking about this, we're not talking about this, we're not talking about this, we're not talking about that.

Speaker 1 And all your preparation, you was prepared to ask them about ABCD, and they tell you, We can't touch this. And since when has journalism, either we touch it or we're not doing it.

Speaker 1 If you try to touch it, we're not doing an interview. I feel you.
Again, I'm.

Speaker 1 What's happened is

Speaker 1 these acts have taken the power back to themselves. That's true.
See, that's really what it is. And I'm okay with that.
But that's where my issue is with his first sentence, which was,

Speaker 1 you, and then you open this up to... No, nobody opened this up to these personalities.

Speaker 1 Nobody just created, and probably if they had the choice, Elliot might not have, clearly by how he feels about things. But you didn't open it up.

Speaker 1 We

Speaker 1 it's such a

Speaker 1 the illusion of some type of control that you have. That's true.
Right? We didn't,

Speaker 1 the next generation, after the pawns, there's the streamers. After the journalists, there's the personalities.
We needed the Stuart Scotts to run up in the companies and teach them what some sauce

Speaker 1 looked like. It's a bridge.
One. And two, once the birth of the iPhone got here, yeah, we're doing doing it ourselves now.
So the journalists needed a publication

Speaker 1 or a publisher or some type of platform. It's the personalities that took this shit in our own hands.

Speaker 1 That's not entirely true. Journalists today, journalists can do the same thing.
They can do different outlets. They can do the same thing.
Today, because we all have the same rights.

Speaker 1 But I'm talking about the chain of command that we grew up in, which was, because that's what Elliott talks about. And that's where Elliot made his heyday.
XL, the sauce.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think it's a almost,

Speaker 1 let me word this right.

Speaker 1 I think it's almost a jealousy thing. Because what happens is a lot of journalists were behind closed doors.
And a lot of them niggas got the personality of a wet mock.

Speaker 1 And so when you get this athlete or when you get this rapper or you get this other individual that didn't come from a journalistic background, they didn't have formal training in journalism.

Speaker 1 But when they get on that microphone, I.e. Joe, and get the going, it gets to going.
Yeah, so now you putting these niggas

Speaker 1 out of a job. It's more sauce in the chili.
Because I can learn it. I can learn the stats.
Gilbert Arenas can learn the stats. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But you can't take some of these journalists, sports journalists, and give them what he got. When you journalists was there, we had to taste the ground beef.

Speaker 1 We had to, it just tastes like journalists.

Speaker 1 It just tastes like, you know what I mean? It tastes like, that's my problem with listening to Torre talk about Kendrick and fucking Drake. Not that he shouldn't.

Speaker 1 Not that he don't have a a really valid

Speaker 1 take and opinion. Journalist Torrey.
Journalist is sort of a journalist.

Speaker 1 But I want to hear, yeah, throw some sauce in the mix. Everybody got their own sauce.
The podcasters, the personalities, the streamers.

Speaker 1 There's nothing wrong with the field having sauce. But my issue is, at this point, sometimes we act as if there's no value to journalism.
That basically anybody can do it.

Speaker 1 It's like picking up an iPhone. Everybody takes pictures now, and now we act like you don't actually need a photographer.

Speaker 1 There's something that a photographer can do that is a unique skill that no matter how many iPhones and high-quality, powerful cameras we pull out, they can't do unless you're trained at it.

Speaker 1 And again, I'm not mad at all these people having platforms. I think they should.
You know what I mean? I think they should. I think they should do it.
I ain't got nothing bad to say about that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying that sometimes in the midst of that, we lose the value of actual journalism. That's all I'm saying.
I agree with Mark. A lot of people, like a lot of journalists.
I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't agree. I think that's a small sample.
And nobody should.

Speaker 1 I think that we all owe it.

Speaker 1 I think journalists, podcasters, media members, and artists all scratch each other's backs. And if we just realize that and recognize that, we could all be cool.

Speaker 1 Man, I think the journalists used to, it was only them. Yeah, they are shooting.
Like, now

Speaker 1 they were the gatekeepers. Now it was like you had to go and interview with this journalist because you're not being talked about in double XL if you don't go sit with Elliot and let him talk.

Speaker 1 Now we don't need you. That's right.

Speaker 1 And that's a big part about it. They opened up, and now they could do this, they could do that.

Speaker 1 I could go over here, I could go here, I could upload and talk to myself, I could talk to whoever I want and still get it out there. When the gig needed to be able to get it, y'all lost your power.

Speaker 1 They call one. I want to see R.
Kelly with Gail King and not ACK.

Speaker 1 But now R. Kelly don't got to go to Gail King because he can go to those other places that won't press him or won't do the research and don't have the resources or the interest to do that.

Speaker 1 But they just don't care about it.

Speaker 1 Why do you necessarily think that that's true? I think that if

Speaker 1 somebody had somebody,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 Kamala Harris would have came and sat down with us, I think everybody in their own right would have done as much research at home as possible to make that interview interesting and provocative.

Speaker 1 I don't think that we would have just sat here like,

Speaker 1 that's so you kind of, and this is my thing. I never hear nobody diss journalists.
I hear the journalists diss the other people. It's not the other way around.
Nobody's jealous of the journalists.

Speaker 1 The journalists are jealous of the athletes or the rappers or the other people that have jumped into this particular medium. It's not the other way.

Speaker 1 So, in fairness to journalists, they have fucking decimated.

Speaker 1 Print media, especially.

Speaker 1 I'm not disagreeing. So, they're defensive for

Speaker 1 go find a swaggy way to journal. Agree, agree.

Speaker 1 But you can't start a newsletter, my nigga.

Speaker 1 But Joe, listen, anybody can go to school for journalism, but journalists that's trying to be content creators, not everyone can be a content creator. Not everyone has that source.

Speaker 1 So I can pick up right now.

Speaker 1 I can pick up right now and decide to go to school.

Speaker 1 You said you disagree. Yeah, I disagree with the person.

Speaker 1 I can pick up right now and decide to go to school and be a journalist.

Speaker 1 But a journalist cannot come into the field and interview a nigga with the sauce and a swag.

Speaker 1 That doesn't mean you're going to be be a good journalist, by the way. But that's what I'm saying.
Journalism is still a creative platform, of course.

Speaker 1 Just because you say, hey, I want to say that doesn't mean you're going to be a fucking journalist. But

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure with my character and my uniqueness and originality, it would get more recognition than a journalist that... put the work in for over the years.
But this time, this day and age.

Speaker 1 Somebody close us out because journalists are not important enough for the A-block on this show.

Speaker 1 Except that every story we talk about on this show is based on reporting, original reporting that somebody did, which is journalism. Journalism isn't just the interview.

Speaker 1 Journalism is actually breaking a story, creating a story, developing a story.

Speaker 1 So by the time you get to the newspaper, by the time we get on that board, everything on that board only exists because a journalist gets it.

Speaker 1 That's not true. That's not true.

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 1 All right. I'll take a step back.
I don't even think a lot of things. A lot of that don't because we get to see it in real time.

Speaker 1 Hear me out. Here me out.
Hear me out. Hear me out.
I overstated that point. I concede that point.
Gotcha. I don't want to stay in that minor point.

Speaker 1 Let's take the bigger point I'm making, which is that the news that we talk about in the world gets reported. You're saying anybody can be a journalist, but not everybody can be a content creator.

Speaker 1 True. And I could say the opposite.
I could say anybody can make content, but not everybody has the skills, the mind, the discipline, the research abilities to do journalism. I agree.

Speaker 1 You can learn, but the truth is in the middle. You could be a mediocre journalist or you could be a mediocre content creator.
They both are legitimate skills. But again, the world has now shifted.

Speaker 1 Whereas journalism is just the facts, and this is the real talent. And that's not true.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That may be true. I just can't identify with that.
The demand for journalism is down.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. I'm not media.
That's it. People, people have

Speaker 1 a lot of people.

Speaker 2 People don't give a fuck about the tenets of journalism. It's objectivity,

Speaker 2 truthfulness, and accuracy. People don't give a fuck.
A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth gets its pants on, and nobody fucking cares.

Speaker 1 Would you be able to, you would you, Mal, you, would you, and we're not gonna. They're gonna say that I'm being a dick, but just somebody close up.
In closing, go ahead. I would like to talk about

Speaker 1 Cam and Kim. Close it off.
Let's jump off. I was just going to ask Mel from her experience with Mel is very intellectual when she reports on something, right?

Speaker 1 And when she talks about something, but Mel has also had this shift to be more of a content creator to

Speaker 1 get more people to see.

Speaker 2 I'll just say this as an answer.

Speaker 2 I didn't go to school for journalism, but I have a lot of respect for that, for the craft of journalism. So I try to apply journalistic ethics

Speaker 2 when I do my interviews, but I never claim to be a journalist because I didn't go to school for it.

Speaker 2 I don't have the degree, but I really have like a large amount of respect for the ethics, and I try to adhere to them when I am in an interview.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 2 And that's how I'll leave it.

Speaker 1 I woke up this morning to Jim Jones, that snippet of Jim Jones' song,

Speaker 1 which was, it didn't get to the part where he was really getting at

Speaker 1 where he was getting at.

Speaker 1 Cam and Cam and Jill.

Speaker 1 Cam and 50. Cam and 50, thank you.
But I was like, okay, this is round two. I heard your last episode,

Speaker 1 y'all were kind of debating whether there would even be a response and what the response would be. That's why I was trying to get y'all take on that.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you feel about Cam's response this morning when he really kind of broke down all the things?

Speaker 1 Personally,

Speaker 1 niggas knew a response was coming. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He knew a response was coming. He's been telling you a response was coming.
I think Cam took it light.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I don't think he said anything that hasn't really already been said.

Speaker 1 I saw people talking about the

Speaker 1 Jim BMF story, but Jim told that story.

Speaker 1 You know, these things are information that's already out there. I think he did show some form of, yo, I'm going to address this.
I don't want to do this no more, and I'm done.

Speaker 1 But he didn't go as hard as we know Cam to go. And I think that was out of some form of love still there.
Well, he said it. He said,

Speaker 1 I noticed a pattern. When people are aggressive with you, it's peace.
But people like me who love you, you do this with. So he said that out of his mouth.

Speaker 1 He did. And we've seen this before.
That's my thing. Like, we saw this back when

Speaker 1 Jim went up on Flex a couple years ago. I don't know if it was seven, eight years.
We saw this exact same thing. Cam uploaded a response and kind of said a lot of this same shit.

Speaker 1 A lot of the same exact shit. So again, it's just repeating certain points.
I still don't like it. I just don't like it playing out like this.
That's my thing. I don't like any of it.

Speaker 1 Let me preface anything I have to say in this conversation with, I hate it as a New Yorker, New Jerseyan.

Speaker 1 Don't like it at all. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 And while he said some of these or most of these points before, Cam,

Speaker 1 I feel like it's different

Speaker 1 because we continue to see y'all together.

Speaker 1 So we've seen y'all do the verses. We've seen y'all do the Kith ad in Madison Square Garden that was big.
For me, Dipset still is personifies New York. I'm sure Kith felt the same way.
So

Speaker 1 it's different after you see them. I think they were rumored to go on tour at one point.
I think that was the Locks tour. I might be freestyling on my own.
That's right.

Speaker 1 So for it to happen now, after all of that, is like, okay,

Speaker 1 what's happened? What's going wrong? Maybe nothing. Maybe we just are able to work through tension.
That's what I take from it. Yeah, I think we're not cool.

Speaker 1 We're not cool, but we got business together. And that's what they said.
I'm not going to let it fuck the money up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they hadn't seen each other before the verses, and then they say, We ain't talking after the verses. I looked at the way Cam even promoted the verses.

Speaker 1 Jim and Joel's was going hard for weeks, not a peep from Cam until like the day before or something. And he put the flyer up or something that said, yo, switch the check clear.
No,

Speaker 1 that's all he said. It was like, basically, this is business.
I got paid.

Speaker 1 Here's my obligation to post. See y'all there.
Even there, I talked to some people that were at Diversus over there on that side with them. And they was like, yo, we didn't know if Cam was coming.

Speaker 1 No, they said Cam was about to leave. No, no, no.
I was there.

Speaker 1 Cam came like

Speaker 1 nobody knew Cam was coming. The direction he came, he came and went upstairs.
They didn't see him. It was no communication between them niggas.

Speaker 1 Because Joel and Copper was in the same dressing room by the exit. Cam wasn't there.
I think Cam was upstairs and nobody knew.

Speaker 1 We don't even know if he's going to show up.

Speaker 1 That was what I was told from folks. And that's Steve Stop thinking.
I mean, Cam was saying the whole time, like, he never wanted to do this. He always wanted to do a tour.

Speaker 1 It was always more lucrative. They wanted to do

Speaker 1 versus he wanted to do the tour.

Speaker 1 And they just decided he gave in after the check got right, which which I understand even in even in that they said that Cam was the reason that the check got right right Jadakiss says shout to Cam They was gonna they accepted a dollar amount Cam did the negotiation for everybody and they got a way bigger bigger payday than what they was gonna get originally even in that

Speaker 1 said they Cam got all the money like yo, we he in order to get him here. Hey, we you take ours

Speaker 1 Oh wow. So it's like this is just business.
I don't fuck with y'all. Y'all know I don't fuck with y'all, but I'm not about about, I'm about my money.

Speaker 1 I would just think,

Speaker 1 I didn't like hearing Cam

Speaker 1 belittle Dipset.

Speaker 1 And not belittle, but to him, it was just like,

Speaker 1 yo, this shit was from 01 to 08, 09, and that was it. Like, that's it.
It's over. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 not as a New Yorker, bro. Not as a New Yorker, nigga.

Speaker 1 We see the after effects of what y'all did and what y'all built and how people feel about you part of a large part of why new york get to talk like new york is because of dip set that's a fact so yeah it bothers me to hear from to see this from a fan standpoint yeah but cam is looking as a

Speaker 1 he sounded hurt at whatever jim said

Speaker 1 he sounded hurt let's say jim was like yo i came up with the pink

Speaker 1 I came up with the aesthetic, but when he mentioned it, he was like, you built the whole everything. Now, if you took it like that, I understand Cam feeling away.

Speaker 1 If you took it like something I created, my man or anybody else is running around saying he's the sole person responsible for it or in large part responsible for it, you're going to take offense.

Speaker 1 You're going to take offense. But we've seen, like, again, when Jim, Jim, they tell a story of when Jim created Bird Gang.

Speaker 1 Cam go and trademarks it. Like, it's been moves here where it's like, I'm just about the business.

Speaker 1 all of that's personal. I don't know.
I don't want to get into nothing personal. I agree.
I'm a fan of the movement.

Speaker 1 This bothers me.

Speaker 1 All of that personal. Whatever's really going on between these niggas, I don't want to know.
I feel like we shouldn't. I don't even, I don't even like hearing it.

Speaker 1 I don't, if y'all got beef or whatever you want, I don't want to call it beef. If y'all have friction, static, whatever.

Speaker 1 I kind of want y'all to just be able to deal with that. I don't feel like the public should even hear this.
I do think

Speaker 1 that shit. I do think Cam took it easy on him, but I also think that Jim kind of could predict that Cam would have a response and his name would get trending.

Speaker 1 Like, Jim been in this shit for a long time. He didn't just, by

Speaker 1 happenstance, sit with Justin LeBoy and give him all of this shit. I don't believe that.
I believe if he gave him what he gave him, he knew what was coming and had a plan.

Speaker 1 His caption underneath the freestyle says, who am I to fuck this moment up? Or miss this moment? I got an album coming. I got a movie coming, everything is coming and I'm dropping something now.

Speaker 1 So I mean he ain't, niggas ain't stupid out here.

Speaker 1 Now, as much as I hate to hear from it, boy, did I laugh at some of the shit Cam said.

Speaker 1 Now, I'm laughing as a 44-year-old man. Cam's funny.

Speaker 1 What's up? Well, Cam as hell. Well, Cam is funny, but I wasn't laughing at Cam trying to be funny to Jim because I love them both.
I'm not in that.

Speaker 1 I'm just laughing as like an adult at some of the shit Cam was saying. He said, yo, nigga, you're not from Harlem.
And he named four blocks.

Speaker 1 He named four to five blocks and said, we didn't see you nowhere. I was like, yo, Cam.

Speaker 1 Harlem is mad.

Speaker 1 Wait, what else he said that was funny? He said some funny shit. Oh, he said when he went on his diatribe about all the people that Jim has pieced it up with.
See, Cam was doing that to be funny.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 that's dope. It is.
And he said it was dope at the end. At the end, he said that.

Speaker 1 But you know why he said it.

Speaker 1 I think it's dope to piece it up with people that you had friction with, especially if niggas got to shooting over it.

Speaker 1 That's kind of fly to me. When he was telling his the Jim Jones origin story of, yo, we was already outside, me, Bloodshed, McGruff, yada, yada, yada.
And

Speaker 1 we would see you and you would say yo, y'all niggas is

Speaker 1 y'all niggas is hot right now. I hear what you're doing

Speaker 1 Like you was a fan. I was like, okay, gotta take his word on what happened.
But

Speaker 1 what's wrong with that? Y'all was hot as fish grease.

Speaker 1 If Jim is around, yeah, yo, y'all killing. You want to come through the free crib?

Speaker 1 Like, Jim is a hustler has embodied that since. And Jim was in what mean the world to you, which is 98.

Speaker 1 Once you get to talking about children of the corn and all of that, that's for the heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's for the heads. But when you got your shot,

Speaker 1 Jim was next to you. And I have to assume that you saw value in it because you kept him there.

Speaker 1 I hate to see him go.

Speaker 1 I just hate to see him do it. So could we just add, though, the comedic value was enhanced by Mace snickering in the background while he popcore?

Speaker 1 That shit was amazing. That was the best part to me.
Every time Winnie's like, you was in the ocean, nigga, tasting water, all you hear is Mace laughing. That shit was perfect.
Well,

Speaker 1 I I don't have to say nothing if I taught you how to rap.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to be funny. No, no,

Speaker 1 what is there for me to say? I taught you how to rap, and you say it.

Speaker 1 Give me some modelcorn. He said in a new joint, too.
Yeah. Niggas taught me to rap.
I went platinum.

Speaker 1 And he did.

Speaker 1 And he did. And he rapping kind of good these days.
He's been rapping. Jim been rapping good.
He's been rapping good. I'm just at this age, he's still rapping good.
He's still getting better. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Every project, Jim keeps getting better. I've been saying this for years it's a fact but jim do keep alluding to

Speaker 1 uh i gotta move this way and do what i gotta do because the lieutenant ain't take care of the capo yeah like i don't know what that means like they got personal shit personal shit man that that only them two will know yeah it'd be so it'd be so hard to to speak on when two of your friends go at it it's hard to speak on it man because you got to be that's why i like to wear the socks i like the way you do

Speaker 1 i gotta wear capo socks and the the cam socks, man. Both.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, Cam is funny. If you know where Cam come from and how he speaks, it's funny.

Speaker 1 And Jim, you just respect Jim on how he handles things, man. I do think that I am.

Speaker 1 I like how Jim is

Speaker 1 preparing to drop an album and taking advantage of the opportunity, man. He's always been a businessman.
And Cam as well has been a good businessman. It's just a lot of things on the inside.

Speaker 1 And that shit happens when you come up. When you come up, you know, we look at the person that put us on and feel like, yo, you you could have did more and you should have did more.
But

Speaker 1 we don't know or we don't remember the sacrifice they had to make to get us in that position. I'm not saying anything about Capo and Cam.

Speaker 1 I'm just, I'm pretty sure that Cam has a reason and Jim has a reason. There's a lot of shit with that.
That whole Harlem shit, man, is different when it comes to the bread, man.

Speaker 1 It's different. When it comes to the bread, them niggas be, oh, you ain't pay me.
Oh, you ain't do this. Yo, damn, you ain't do this.
It's just crazy. It's a lot of shit that come with that.

Speaker 1 And they piece it up. So I guess it's all about business.
Me, I can't do that. It'd be too personal for me.
You have to give me a bag to calm down, nigga.

Speaker 1 Like, pay me my back end, retroactive shit, then I'm gonna be cool.

Speaker 1 That was the other part that was funny about what Cam was saying. He was saying, no, you're not from Harlem, you're not from Harlem.
And Cam could say all of them. Nigga brought up Jaja's name.

Speaker 1 He started picking up fan niggas.

Speaker 1 They was getting real harlemy. But he could say all of this stuff.
But me, as a listener,

Speaker 1 you know, I know a lot of Bronx niggas that claim Harlem.

Speaker 1 I do. Me too.
I didn't really think about it until they started to do it. I know a lot of Bronx niggas that took that trek over that little bridge and spent their time in Harlem.

Speaker 1 And they said, your grandma lived here and used to come over here, yes. And I was like,

Speaker 1 well, then

Speaker 1 if my grandma is over there and I'm coming over there.

Speaker 1 I ran around here.

Speaker 1 I mean, it do help that, I mean, my whole professional career, Jim, been from from Harlem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As a New Yorker, whether Cam is right or not, Jim is from Harlem. I want to ask you a question real quick.
You hear that when Jim allude to, yo, the lieutenant.

Speaker 1 They went up on the east side.

Speaker 1 You hear when Jim allude to the lieutenant not taking care of the capo. Then you hear the other niggas, some niggas that was a part of Burger Gang say that Jim didn't take care of them, right?

Speaker 1 So, like, see, I don't hear none of that. Before you did, not recently.

Speaker 1 Like, but that was some of the things that when I interviewed Jaja, she said, or, you know, different people said, yo, Jim ain't do this and stuff like that, or Jim did this or did it like this.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like once we get in a position in life, you being from the industry, that... I'm not from the industry.
Excuse me. I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Yeah, but I'm just not.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like...

Speaker 1 Do you feel like we start to pocket watch and we start to get...

Speaker 1 Where does that come from? Is other niggas in our air? Is it pocket watching? Is it knowing your worth?

Speaker 1 I think it's everything. Okay.
Expectations.

Speaker 1 Expectations. Yeah.
So we're not doing it from the heart. We're doing it with expectations.
We're doing it for our own reasons.

Speaker 1 There's no artist alive that didn't think the person running this shit couldn't have done more.

Speaker 1 But a lot of time it do be niggas in your ear, too. That's what I'm saying.
Telling you, like, yo, he should be doing this. This should be happening.

Speaker 1 Oh, look, if he doing that, why are you not doing this? Why am I not on the grammar?

Speaker 1 Why am I not at the hip-hop awards? Why am I not at the after party? Why am I not at the BMI ceremony?

Speaker 1 You know how many times during the year there are for an artist to say, hey, why did that happen for me?

Speaker 1 Like, consumers don't ever really look at that. But almost every week, an artist could find a reason to say, why not me? And it's tough.

Speaker 1 And it's easy to pass that buck on to the people that brought you in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Oh, damn, he wasn't looking out for me. He was at the Grammys.
Why wasn't I at the Grammys? Well, maybe you weren't. I was in the Grammys.
Or maybe there's a bunch of reasons why I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 I think people just want to be in the business and know the logistics of it. Like, they want to be in it.
They don't want to take the word of the person that's putting them on. Right?

Speaker 1 They want to be like, I want to be in the room when the business deals is going on instead of just trusting your man's word. And I think that's a thing that goes on in this business

Speaker 1 since the beginning of time. For me.
Put-on

Speaker 1 is.

Speaker 1 A put-on. It's an opportunity for you to get it possible.
To do something for you. Yeah.
Hey, yo, real quick. But a lot of people don't take it.
They don't.

Speaker 1 A lot of people take a put on as a handheld. Yes.
Right. Like, you have to escort me to the top.

Speaker 1 That's why I cut hands off.

Speaker 1 I cut the hands off. Right.
I don't play none of that shit. That's another reason why we ain't never getting to managing artists and all that.
The expectations of an act. Now.

Speaker 1 I mean, you could just make, but I want to just be honest, and speaking from experience, because Cam got me a bag before, right?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when I was going through what I was going through, I just made it look good, and the niggas thought I was getting more than what I was getting.

Speaker 1 So if I got a new truck based off of a skit and a nigga like, yo, nigga, we over here struggling, but you pulling up with a new truck, you didn't understand how I got it.

Speaker 1 So we make it, sometimes you can make it look good.

Speaker 1 That's another big part too. Optically, for sure.
Right? And then it will make the people that you're with feel away instead of just asking.

Speaker 1 A lot of music and entertainment business is someone fronting like they

Speaker 1 did something crazy, but they really pull a string over here or got something on them. Yo, it's crazy, Paul.
Niggas took that church. Nigga wrote me a letter.
Oh, you got a new truck. I'm out.

Speaker 1 out it happened and it's like nigga wait you don't know we still in the same position i was just able to leverage some shit to get this shit right but that don't matter after everything or i had a deal over here that had nothing to do with what we're doing musically exactly that's where i bought the shit from i own some real estate

Speaker 1 go buy your own truck nigga the fuck you talking on the strip buy your own truck yeah but if they but but ish if they feel like they putting in the work to help you get to a level and they feel like that you didn't like if i if i go and say we have no money this business that we're in is not making any money and then you see me pull up with a truck

Speaker 1 then to them it's like yo you're lying to me you're lying to me but that's not what it is or you hiding the money feelings ain't facts my nigga i agree i agree and that's where trust come in is it is there a way to be a rap group and this not happen because it's i mean i look at the locks that's a great example of like a group staying together

Speaker 1 and then after that i don't even know who else i can't even think of nobody else i mean it seems like most groups don't last is this just an inevitable part of being a music act or a hip-hop act?

Speaker 1 Like, I mean, in hip-hop, especially,

Speaker 1 it's usually a lot of alphas.

Speaker 1 Like, no one wants to listen to a rap group with like some passive dudes, usually. That's pretty rare.
It's not hip-hop. In regular business, business break up.
You just don't hear about it.

Speaker 1 It's not publicized. You're not on the front row with a fan base that's millions of people strong.

Speaker 1 The niggas that might have started Apple or the niggas that started this company or the niggas that started this company, they may have dissolved that friendship and that partnership after a period of time.

Speaker 1 Again, it's just not in a forefront. Well, there's just less nostalgia with Apple than there is with an album or a group of people.
There's no fan base. There's no fan base.

Speaker 1 We're still listening to the identifier. Exactly.
Dipside. We're not using the Apple from 1983.
Yes,

Speaker 1 yes, to that.

Speaker 1 But in business, it's typically assumed that all parties know how business goes.

Speaker 1 I was about to say that part too.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, a lot of us come from a place where we don't have any business background we did you know what i mean like we no not not shouting at nobody that never went to school but people don't even have the foundational pieces that come with business 101 in school so again i'm i'm an advocate of college but

Speaker 1 um you learn certain

Speaker 1 on your client and a lot of these people never learnt that and so they be butting heads on like little little little foundational because none of the people involved no business

Speaker 1 and that's compounded by right like

Speaker 1 if our relationship spans over the course of 30 years

Speaker 1 and we started broke, then you got rich, then you got broke, and then I got rich,

Speaker 1 and then we had an argument over this song, how the money should be broken up, and then you got an artist, and then they got rich, and then you signed Bado, and it like it's...

Speaker 1 20 years of different points that could be strenuous to the relationship.

Speaker 1 Business aside, just you dealing with your emotions, having to watch 30 years of whatever you've seen from your man.

Speaker 1 Like, it's tough. It's tough.
I ain't gonna hold you. It is tough.
And again, in rap, and that's why you see so many people go through it. And again, in rap, rappers are the man.

Speaker 1 But in a group, it's hard to have two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, wu-tang, nine, ten the mans. That's difficult to manage that.
Yeah, I mean, crazy. Yeah.
Crazy. Like, imagine going to

Speaker 1 going to fucking

Speaker 1 you in a group and now you got to go tell the group members, yo, I'm the man.

Speaker 1 Like, just try it. It's like a band demand.
Yeah, it was a little more clear. It's different.
Yeah, it's tough to say. Like, Mel wanted to be on the billboard.

Speaker 1 Like, there's no way, there's no way to say, hey.

Speaker 1 Mel, you're the band. Thank you.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that. Yo, yo, Joe, real quick, a lot of people try to discredit Jim.

Speaker 1 But you know, like, he was the director director of a lot of those videos, like, Santana Town, like, he was, uh, the dip set anthem, like, he really put his work in when it came to that. So,

Speaker 1 that's the underlying piece for me, too, is not, it's the money, and it's also the, sometimes people don't feel celebrated, because in some groups there is a clear alpha, and everybody's not the alpha.

Speaker 1 Right. And the people who aren't, though, feel like they get ignored.
So, Jim, for a long time, based on interviews I've seen, has felt like...

Speaker 1 People weren't celebrating enough what his contribution was or if you look at other rap groups, you know, people don't realize, yeah, I was writing these rhymes or I was was doing these beats or I was doing this and I didn't get credit for it.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of times that ego thing or that insecurity thing builds up and that goes a long way. You see that with state property, you see that go ahead.
I'm sure that's the ego thing.

Speaker 1 I was about to say that's the ego thing. A lot of people not really willing to play the background.
True. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody ain't bigs.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like you got to think about

Speaker 1 very few people in hip-hop or chic

Speaker 1 have played that role. Like I don't give a fuck long as the money coming in.
I'm good. I don't need my face on the cover.

Speaker 1 I don't need none of that everybody can't really do that and that's to me that's the ego thing and the insecurity thing for sure

Speaker 1 yes again i'm not disagreeing

Speaker 1 but if i'm doing all this i'm not have an ego because i want my credit i want my name at the end of the movie to say hey styled by joe button or visual by credits are there for a reason like yes on the back of the movie but yeah my family's waiting to see my name up there.

Speaker 1 Cool. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's on the person. I got to be at the trailer.

Speaker 1 I think that's on the person.

Speaker 1 If you want

Speaker 1 your hard work and all of your fucking shit that you got going on to be credited to you, then you have to put yourself in an infrastructure to where it's like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's also difficult sometimes to know that at the time, what you're doing is what you're doing. Right.
You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 1 he may have just been going shopping and finding some clothes, not realizing that is a title title that could be accredited. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I gave you the directions. But you find that out later on, though, Paul.

Speaker 1 You find out as you become a part of the business that, oh, because initially when things are happening, we don't want to do the research. We trust the person that's putting us on, right?

Speaker 1 I'm going to trust you.

Speaker 1 We don't do the research, but if you take your time and read, you know, the fine print or understand it in real time, and maybe sometimes we feel like if we do take that time, that we may miss an opportunity.

Speaker 1 I think that's how we were bred in society or the neighborhood that we come from.

Speaker 1 You know, every opportunity, you know, you don't want to miss the opportunity, so you jump on it fast, or somebody else will get on it.

Speaker 1 What if we learn it together?

Speaker 1 But sometimes the people that

Speaker 1 you're right, but a lot of people

Speaker 1 sometimes the people that's interested, they're not interested in everyone. So a lot of times

Speaker 1 you won't be able to learn together. Great point.
Sure, true. That makes sense.
Great point.

Speaker 1 Listen, take me out the group chat.

Speaker 1 These gentlemen love each other and are millionaires. Yes, they are.
And did it salute to both?

Speaker 1 That means anything that they're talking about or got going on is personal to them and is none of my business. Get me out of it.
Even though I'm always happy to get new gym music for sure.

Speaker 1 Always happy to get new gym music and love everything that Cam is doing over there and love the freestyles in the front of the ship. Yeah,

Speaker 1 but Jim and Cam for me is up there with Hove and Dame, Wayne, and baby.

Speaker 1 Alcast.

Speaker 1 Alcast. It is up there.
Yeah, it's up there. It is one of the greatest

Speaker 1 relationship breakups. Friend rivals.
Yeah, yeah. Frenemies.
This would be nasty, though. But I won't even say rivals because they love each other.
Oh, rivals, maybe friend competitors. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whatever, however you want to word it. Friends gone

Speaker 1 unfriend. I don't know.
Frenemies.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're really enemies though either. You know what I mean? So

Speaker 1 it's frenemies. That's why it's frenemies.

Speaker 1 Friend petitors.

Speaker 1 Friend petitors.

Speaker 1 Fucking crazy. Oh, my God.
I don't think they're enemies. I don't think it's real.
No, I think they're enemies neither. I don't think they love each other.

Speaker 1 I do agree with Mark, though, when he said that, you know, when Joe just mentioned the different frenemies or competitors, whatever you say.

Speaker 1 You know, when you, it looks crazy. None of them, everybody falls out the same way.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's like a pattern. When is it going to change? Who's going to stay? You know, you're talking about De La Sol.
I don't, you know, salute to them, but the young niggas don't know about, well,

Speaker 1 De La Sol ain't nothing to fight about because

Speaker 1 keeping all these shit.

Speaker 1 Ain't no tension in the relationship. We both broke.

Speaker 1 It had to be friends for 40 years.

Speaker 1 The label will give us our shit one day. Shout out to De L Soul, man.
Shout out to the soul. Shout out to everybody, man.
Rest in peace, Dave. Speaking of friendships,

Speaker 1 I keep watching this Drake

Speaker 1 LeBron

Speaker 1 thing bubble up. And last week, I was frustrated.
I've been mad at LeBron about this. Actually,

Speaker 1 I was mad that he made me take Drake's side. You know what I mean? Like, you know what? You've probably been a bad friend.

Speaker 1 Right. I'm just saying, but like,

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Look, whatever. What a fucking pussy.
Look. But now,

Speaker 1 when I'm hearing all the stuff, you know, I've seen the, you know, the all the stuff, you know, the act stuff. I've seen the

Speaker 1 DMs, all that stuff. It's just a lot of dry snitching.

Speaker 1 And I can't respect that.

Speaker 1 To me, this is something Drake can't recover from more than losing a battle or even suing Universal. To me, this is like the worst of the worst thing you could do to somebody.

Speaker 1 It's bad, in my opinion. I still think he could recover from this.
And I'll play Drake. What did I do?

Speaker 1 I didn't technically do anything. That's why I could recover.

Speaker 1 Does anybody not believe that he's shipped in this?

Speaker 1 Can't prove it. One, and then number.

Speaker 1 Can't prove it. Yes, that DM looked funny, but you can't prove that I'm doing that.
Or even in a DM situation,

Speaker 1 let's say hypothetically, you're talking to your person you think is your friend about a scenario or something just in confidence no it wasn't you knew that what it's not still not your friend but still with confidence whatever the case may be you talking to somebody and you're explaining to them why you're upset about something and you use that as an analogy

Speaker 1 i would never use that as analogy it's nasty and it's corny but you can't prove that it's with malice

Speaker 1 this is some white

Speaker 1 what about the freestyle

Speaker 1 you can't prove that that's with malice

Speaker 1 so what do you what do what do you call it i didn't I didn't say a name. I hate that y'all making me take the side.
No, no, I just. Somebody asked me.
Just having a conversation.

Speaker 1 Don't make me have to ruin your public image. Yes, I'm talking about LeBron, but who knows how I'm talking about that? And I didn't say his name.
It's a lot of circumstantial evidence, though.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. It is circumstantial evidence.
But it's a lot of. If you increase it.

Speaker 1 Real niggas know. Right.
That's all I'm saying. And I guess real niggas ain't his family.
Real niggas know. Yeah, exactly.
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 It's disgusting, though. It's really disgusting.

Speaker 1 I I didn't expect this real nigga nowadays in this culture. Like, that shit is so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that real nigga shit is over. That shit has played out.
How about this basic human decency? Oh, that bitch over.

Speaker 1 Well, if that's the case, then he has a shot. That's that point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you talking about basic human decency, then you got me caping for him. He got a right to be tight.
Yeah, but you don't get tight and then respond by doing some white man shit.

Speaker 1 You don't dictate how somebody responds to you.

Speaker 1 But you're talking about real nigga shit. Yes, you do.
No, you don't. You do.
There's ethics and response.

Speaker 1 Exactly. There is ethics in response.
If you slap me,

Speaker 1 I can't shoot up your block. Who says? Who says, though? Who says? Why not? I shouldn't.

Speaker 1 Who says?

Speaker 2 Nobody says, but it's like there's rules of engagement.

Speaker 1 No, it's not.

Speaker 1 If I smack Mark right now and he slammed me on that table and stopped the dog shit out of me,

Speaker 1 he's not wrong. I can say wrong.

Speaker 1 Y'all know my rules.

Speaker 1 He is wrong. I said, dude, I'm just planning on it.
He ain't wrong. I'm to me.
He would be wrong to you because he's breaking your shit. She break the table.
I'm planning on breaking the table.

Speaker 1 But if I went to your family reunion and shot up the whole family, everybody would say that shit's too far. That's all I'm saying.
Mark. It's too far to them, not to you.

Speaker 1 Mark, you determine what's too far from that.

Speaker 1 That is what's happening out here. And that's really what's happening out here.
New Year's. You punch a motherfucker in the face in the club.
They couldn't.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold up. Let me replace it.
We're saying fuck morals.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that. They can say fuck morals.

Speaker 1 New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 And this is a popular thing now where people are afraid to go to the funeral funeral of the person that they love that just died because they come in there to clear the funeral. That's not new.

Speaker 1 That ain't new. That's been going on for decades.

Speaker 1 Chicago niggas was doing that back in 2020. LA niggas was doing that.
They tell me about all these other places I don't know nothing about. New York, that was not a popular thing.
It wasn't at all.

Speaker 1 You are insane.

Speaker 1 Why are we insane?

Speaker 2 The take you guys have right now is in direct opposition. I'm going back like months and months and months when we were watching Love and Death.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And we were talking about the consequences of actions. And I was just like, there's consequences to your actions.
It may not be, it may be like, you know, a really intense

Speaker 2 consequence that might not match up to what the actions were, but there's still consequences.

Speaker 1 And y'all were like, I don't remember. I don't even know what love and death is.
I'm trying to remember the show.

Speaker 2 Love and death was where Candy, the chick with the fucking axe.

Speaker 1 Okay, when she killed the nigga.

Speaker 2 when she killed when she killed her lover's wife or her yeah her lover's wife yeah i remember that story and you guys were and i was basically there's consequences to cheating you're like what murder and i was just like you can't dictate what the consequences are going to be based on what the action was

Speaker 1 you you said a story

Speaker 1 we just want you know we have solid work teaching us how to change our take from pod to pod yeah

Speaker 1 we went against we're hypocrites

Speaker 1 we went against you because it was just the right thing to do at that moment we're hypocrites man got it thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 1 You know, you are right.

Speaker 1 And you're right. But we just.
Man, we're talking about dude code. Yeah.
In dude code, if you know that I'm cheating, you shouldn't say that at any point. True.
Period.

Speaker 1 We don't, we don't have to, it don't need a big deep dive and a whole unpacking.

Speaker 1 We know the dudes know what the code is. But the problem is, everybody don't subscribe to dude code.
Well, that's why you ain't supposed to

Speaker 1 fuck girls with everybody.

Speaker 1 Who brings Dude Code around?

Speaker 2 Why do you not fucking adhere to Dude Code?

Speaker 1 You guys say that this particular

Speaker 2 lie.

Speaker 1 Well, because I want to hear Mark and Mel. Go ahead, Mel.
I apologize.

Speaker 2 No, I was just saying, a lot of dudes do not adhere. They front like they adhere to dude code, and then they are the biggest fucking pillow talkers in the fucking world.

Speaker 1 Excuse me, little bitches. What's my bitch code? Trump.
That's facts.

Speaker 1 It's not trauma.

Speaker 1 I say nothing to it. It's not trauma.

Speaker 2 I quite enjoy it.

Speaker 1 You do? Dudes being bitches.

Speaker 2 I think it's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 But I'm speaking about the men that do subscribe to Dude Code and, oh, I guess to your point, that

Speaker 1 think they're associating with people that will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not for nothing.

Speaker 1 I don't know this man.

Speaker 2 Mistake on there, bro.

Speaker 1 But we've seen a pattern that shows he don't really subscribe to Dude Code. And

Speaker 1 that's what I don't respect. We've seen a pattern.
Listen to Kendrick.

Speaker 1 If I do something with you that could potentially. Then he shouldn't be the one to go get the girls and bring them back

Speaker 1 but let me say this right now

Speaker 1 it's gonna sound like for that it's gonna sound like i'm capering for him it don't matter it don't matter

Speaker 1 we talking

Speaker 1 we turning a blind eye to niggas crossing him

Speaker 1 no no we have wait i i am we have what was the what i went to what was the what was the cross i went to a concert and rapped because i'm a part of the los angeles lakers and i went to to go support LA.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's bullshit. That's bullshit.
That's what publishes answers. And you fronting.
Wait, it wasn't because I was like, there have been times up. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Listen, there have been times up here.

Speaker 1 What happened? It's just if not.

Speaker 1 There have been times up here where you took the neutral stance

Speaker 1 based on a relationship that you've had with us.

Speaker 1 So if you had a relationship with these people and these people are saying disparaging things about you that are very, very serious, you would never sit up there and be dancing and mouthing a song.

Speaker 1 I would not. That's what I'm saying.
Right. I would not.
And that's what I'm saying. Maybe they both.
Maybe

Speaker 1 just to cross. Maybe both.

Speaker 1 If Flip shows up to a Jim Jones video where Jim is dissing Cam and you end the video, Cam has a right to feel away. You fucking ain't

Speaker 1 true. That's what I'm saying.
And vice versa. And vice versa.
And Drake feels away because LeBron showed up and very public. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's obvious. That's fucked up.
That's what it's like. That is one assumption in there.
But what a bitch. What are y'all talking about? That's not a bitch.
That's not a bitch.

Speaker 1 That's y'all niggas being apathetic and acting like niggas don't have personal relationships.

Speaker 1 That's not true. I can explain what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 No, he does have a right to feel however he wants to feel at who he perceived to be a friend moving funny. I'm not calling nothing on that.
All right. Okay.

Speaker 1 What you do with that information is what will make you a bitch. That's absolutely true.
And that's what I'm saying. That's true.
But does that warrant you to try to destroy my family?

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm saying, Drake.

Speaker 1 But in the same breath, y'all niggas are saying that the response is up to the person that's responding. No, not that chicken.
Yo, I'm talking to niggas that

Speaker 1 can't pick and choose. And they can think it's what I'm saying.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 You can't choose a pick. Absolutely chicken.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. I'm holding him to a code that he hasn't showed that he really subscribed to.
I'm not holding him to shit. I'm only dealing with people that know man cold and understand man cold.

Speaker 1 Anybody outside of it can have any perception that they want on the matter. I'm only talking to the people that know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 Man cold is if we fall out and i try to pop some chicken is that man cold i fell out with matter you niggas and i know y'all dirt i would never

Speaker 1 exactly i would never and i hate y'all not even hate but i don't with y'all and it's some juicy dirt why though

Speaker 1 that would make me a bitch a bitch dog if a nigga snitch on me

Speaker 1 you don't gotta snitch back

Speaker 1 huh you standing in what you believe so if me and you do a crime, and you rat on me,

Speaker 1 I don't got to go to court and rat back on you.

Speaker 2 Are you talking about integrity here?

Speaker 1 Because I'm feeling like I'm going by what I think is wrong. I agree with that.
You sound like you agree with us then. So, Drake is wrong.
No, listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, about the ratting part, if he did that, yeah,

Speaker 1 he's, but I don't know that he did that. Or I don't know if he put that out there for the world.

Speaker 1 I don't know that.

Speaker 1 You don't know that. Well, we can't prove it, but you do know.
We know it. We can't prove it.
You're from Newark. You do know.
You from Newark. I wonder how that is.

Speaker 1 You started with that analogy using that analogy putting the line in the song and now i didn't start with that no yeah you you did start i talked about the line in the song and all that but you talked about the analogy that he used

Speaker 1 yeah in the dm yeah yeah i think i think that if i'm so let's Again, it's unknown shit that we are just assuming to be true.

Speaker 1 Not me. Look, like the dude hit me in my DMs.
That dude. Dude's being you.
I'm like, no, they don't. The deuce hit you, nigga.
They don't hit me.

Speaker 1 They dissed me because I I said that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. But look, the dude, what's the dude's name? That Drake was saying.
I don't even know his name. Texan? I don't know.
Oh, I know you're talking about it. Chris Griffin or something.

Speaker 1 That nigga hit me in my DMs. I'm telling the truth.
I'm like, question mark, I don't even know who you are. And he was like, yo, I'm the dude that da da da da da.

Speaker 1 So my thing is, even in that, you sure all your DMs.

Speaker 1 You know it's okay to just leave it. I didn't know what he was talking about.
I didn't know what was talking about.

Speaker 1 Bro, again, Uncle Paul, boy.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I'm starting to see how you got that mass production of hoodies, my nigga, because boy,

Speaker 1 you getting a check from them niggas over there, son. What niggas? OVO.
Oh, shit. OVO?

Speaker 1 Here you go. Stop talking about.
We're having a real don't conversation. There's not no real conversation.

Speaker 1 The nigga that, Chris, whatever, that put the DM out, was just some bitch shit hit you up and you had a conversation with him.

Speaker 1 I didn't have a half an issue with the nigga got sent the nigga four questions. Did you respond after that? Stop it, bro.
Did you stop? Did you respond after that? Did you respond after you?

Speaker 1 I don't know. No, I did not respond to this.
You didn't respond after you don't four question marks. And then what happened? And that's it.

Speaker 1 He told me who he was, and I kept it moving because I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Why you didn't engage a conversation with him? Because he's talking about Drake.

Speaker 1 Back to my point. Bro, stop, bro.
Please.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you, stop. I'm not accepting this from you because I'm going to tell you because you know Man Cole.
You're threatening me now to stop. I'm not.
I'm not. Stop that pie shit.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 I think you know man cold, and I'm not accepting. Yeah, I agree.
I'm just what I'm saying is this. I think you play, you playing devil's advocate.
I get that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, yo, if he did that and purposely did that, that is some sucker shit.

Speaker 1 You are ratting. If you purposely did that, that is some sucker shit.
I don't know that to be true. But you believe it to be true.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 If you had to put your money on it, what would you put it on? They all doing sucker shit. I don't know these niggas, so I'm not putting my money up on nobody that I don't know.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 I don't know what these niggas' morals is. I don't know nothing about this.
Drake is meticulous. Drake thinks about every step, every stage, every reaction and action.

Speaker 1 And I can tell you with certainty that he, at the very least, knew that this is how the world would see it. And there's no way you'd want the world to see it that way if that's not what you did.

Speaker 1 Nobody wants to look like they're rattling if they're not ratting. When he goes after Kendrick, he does the same shit.
You're contradicting yourself. How so?

Speaker 1 Because if the nigga is that meticulous and you know you're going to get looked at by the world as a bitch ass nigga, you think I'm going to meticulously plot that out so that the world could look at me as a bitch ass nigga?

Speaker 1 I think, yes, I think he's crashing out. You're looking at him like that.
I think he's crashing out. The world is not looking at him like y'all.
Not the world.

Speaker 1 If Drake purposely did that, I'm going on record saying that's some bitch ass shit. Cool.
And I think that he knows better.

Speaker 1 If y'all, y'all the niggas that be talking about how meticulous and plot-meaning he is and all that other shit.

Speaker 1 And if he did that, we've seen six, eight, ten months of him not being as meticulous as y'all niggas claim he is. I think he's meticulous.
I think he just has a bad strategy. I think he's not.

Speaker 1 Which means you ain't not fucking meticulous. Or you're just wrong.
He's not like us.

Speaker 1 He is a different kind of person. His mind works.
He does not mind looking like a dude that just snitched on somebody.

Speaker 1 He doesn't mind going after Kendrick's girl or saying, you know what I mean, you cheating and doing this, that, and the third. He does not mind doing that shit.

Speaker 1 He He doesn't mind threatening, I'm going to ruin your public image. Who the fuck says that to anybody about anything? True.
All that shit.

Speaker 1 To me, that's just his version of don't make me expose you to those who don't know you. He was trying to do that.
True.

Speaker 1 And just his way of doing it is, I'm going to ruin your image. Right.
Bro, y'all, y'all, y'all. All right, y'all got it.

Speaker 1 And that segment does not condone cheating.

Speaker 1 I think they're all doing, I got it all. I think they're all doing bitch shit.
I think all of the shit is disgusting. That's it.
The nigga to put the DMs out, that was corny. Super corny.

Speaker 1 Drake doing what he did in the record to allude to LeBron Corner's wife. It's corny, especially after we watch how Savannah was acting at the basketball game.
That's corny.

Speaker 1 What she does is basketball.

Speaker 1 However, that whole situation, you remember what I'm saying, Joe? I forgot. Yeah, no, I got the picture of my phone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How she was, she was just, I forgot what it is, but Joe had talked about it before.

Speaker 1 Drilling Drake. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hold on, I can show you the picture. No, I'm good.
I just think.

Speaker 1 On top of that, we heard a lot of stories.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on, let me just say this.

Speaker 1 We heard a lot of stories about LeBron. We heard about a lot of stories that Drake is saying.

Speaker 1 She wasn't playing with that boy. A lot of stories that Drake is saying.
Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We heard people allude to it. We know this look.
And we know what happened when we. Ish, invite me to your house.
I'll show you

Speaker 1 what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 Invite me to your house.

Speaker 1 Me and you are going to walk in the kitchen and just have a talk.

Speaker 1 And these are the looks that's going to come off the bottom.

Speaker 1 Quick question. So you're going down a list of corny shit just by definition.
Yes. Is what Braun did corny?

Speaker 1 That's his man's. In the middle.

Speaker 1 That's shit corny. In the middle.
Okay. Wow.
In the middle to me. Why? How? Please explain that to me.

Speaker 1 And this is the point where

Speaker 1 bullshit. It's not bullshit because you're asking me a question.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Are you getting paid for the money?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I am. See, see, I can say it.

Speaker 1 He went to the concert to support Kendrick. He's friends with both of them, right?

Speaker 1 And yeah, it's corny. I'm in the middle, but it's corny.
It's corny. But it's not in the middle.
Yeah. It's fucking sensitive.
I'm in the middle, though. Is DeMar De Rosen corny? A thousand percent.

Speaker 1 Why? Because if you're my friend, DeMar DeRosen has publicly... LeBron has never publicly.
I'm everybody's friend. I don't care about that friendship.
I'm your friend and I'm your friend.

Speaker 1 Specifically, I think DeMar is more corny than LeBron. So if you're my friend, you stay the fuck out of a beef with your other friend.
So am I not saying that? Both of y'all,

Speaker 1 as if you're living by a code. True.
So based on what my ethics are, that's corny. All right, we'd be in circle.
Let me hear from you.

Speaker 1 I said, I think DeMar was more corny, way more corny than LeBron was. If what they both said to be true, where I'm going through depression, you my man.
You talked me out of that.

Speaker 1 You brought me through that. Now I'm here at the show.
It ain't like y'all didn't know what was going to happen at the show. Y'all knew.
The world knew.

Speaker 1 We tuned in to watch Not Like Us be performed on that stage.

Speaker 1 You up there dancing around doing all of this in the video in the video in the video like so so all of that to me he's corny because drake helped him out of a dark depression when he got traded from the raptors is that that's what you're saying i'm saying that if that's my man's and you helped me out of some like that

Speaker 1 here i know you don't but listen

Speaker 1 do certain

Speaker 1 tell it to somebody that cares about what man's do DeMar de Rosen is from Los Angeles. So tell your man code shit to somebody that give a fuck about what man code.

Speaker 1 Dende De Rosen might be third cousins with Kendrick. Cool, then let Kendrick.

Speaker 1 Lamar DeRosen probably was depressed being shot at by gang members when some other gang members had to pull a blue bow bow fire back.

Speaker 1 And that's his relationship. LeBron made that nigga super.
His relationship with LA or Kendrick, I'm sure,

Speaker 1 supersedes whatever this raptor shit y'all talking about is by decades. Okay.
That's all I'm saying. We're sitting down playing.
But you stay out of it. Yo, stay out of it.
These niggas are are crazy.

Speaker 1 Bro, you kidding me.

Speaker 1 If you had beef with one of my closest friends in the world right now, and that nigga made a video, I would not go in the video.

Speaker 1 Even if I'm a million times closer to him, fuck with him more, he did more for me, I'm still not gonna go in a video where he's dissing you.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna show him today. They didn't work together.
That's a false. Yeah, that's not a false.

Speaker 1 It's not a fucking

Speaker 1 answer.

Speaker 1 Drake and DeMar DeRosa do not work together. Drake and DeMar DeRosa might be closer to Mark and Joe, huh? Drake and DeMar DeRosa might be closer to Mark and Joe.
I'm sure they are.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I don't even get invited to to the fucking strip club.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you had rap beef with my brother, my biological brother, and I made sure to stay out of it to not get in the middle of it.

Speaker 2 I think what Drake's realizing in real time is that

Speaker 2 his perception of the investment that he put into these friendships is not being reciprocated. Exactly.
And that is why he's fed the why. That's why he's doing what he's doing.

Speaker 1 I would like to respond to what you said.

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of my point with all of this shit. But I thought

Speaker 1 I had what with your brother? Rap beef. Say it one more time for me.
Rap beef. Which is a little different from real beef.
Joe, before you record. Hold on, hold on.
Hold on. Yes.

Speaker 1 Now, can I respond to that? You are correct. It is a little different.
Now, let me respond. Before you laid pen to paper, you caught me and said, yo, what is your brother trying to do?

Speaker 1 Because the shit he's saying on Twitter and this and there, is he trying to take it there or what? Did you or did you not? I don't remember yesterday.

Speaker 1 What you did. So it was.
That makes you sound strong in the argument when I don't remember yesterday. Yeah, you did.
Well, I gave you the option to remember it. Yeah, you got to remember.

Speaker 1 I gave you the option to remember it. But okay, I'm a great human.
That's what that call sounds like. Again.

Speaker 2 It sounds like you value your friendship with ice.

Speaker 1 It sounds like you value the friendship.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 Rat beef and real beef or street beef or any other beef.

Speaker 2 Drake's not a street motherfucker.

Speaker 1 It's not the same.

Speaker 2 Maybe he doesn't have a clear understanding of the family.

Speaker 1 It's not the same.

Speaker 1 That was part of Drake's point: is that this has crossed the line from just a spar a rats bar.

Speaker 1 I'm not arguing. Drake already said it was personal for me.
He said it. So I'm not arguing nothing.
I'm taking him at his word, and he has a right to take all of that shit personal.

Speaker 1 And everybody over there that played on that side, it's up for you niggas forever. And niggas got a right to not give a fuck about how Drake feels about their behavior.
That's true, too.

Speaker 1 And now he's going to move the way he moved towards you niggas, and vice versa.

Speaker 1 Okay, but for the audience watching, when you start exposing cheating secrets, and I don't know any of that to be true, when you start doing that, the audience reserves the right to say, you're a bitch.

Speaker 1 A thousand percent. Exactly.
10 million percent. 1,000%.
That's the million.

Speaker 1 That's the end of what I have to say. 10,000%.
About it. So LeBron's a bitch and Drake is a bad friend.
I'm sorry. LeBron's a bad friend and Drake is a bitch.

Speaker 1 Is that the summary?

Speaker 1 Yo, I sit here for 10 years and tell you niggas that none of these people are friends. So for me to have this conversation under the guise of friendship, stop it.

Speaker 1 Like, tell that shit to somebody else. But to the nigga that believes that it's a bad thing.
That thing is fucked up. To the nigga that believed it? Yes.
It's different. Yes.

Speaker 1 You look at everything, nobody's friends. But to the nigga that really believed, damn, that was my friend's friends.
Yeah. You did that? You, my nigga?

Speaker 1 Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 Okay. No.
It hit a little different to him. And that's what Drake was saying in the freeze.

Speaker 1 Drake didn't go down the list and say, all you motherfuckers that I saw in the Hamptons, I have the same issue with. Y'all are fake.
Y'all are industry fake. I don't fuck with y'all.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to get y'all heading out and keep it moving. But you, that's different.
Drake doesn't think everybody's his friend, he just thought that person was his friend.

Speaker 1 And I think that's a reasonable frame in this business. I'm sure there's one or two people y'all consider friends out of the thousands of acquaintances.
That is a LeBron was his person.

Speaker 1 He got a fucking tattooed on his body. He might really think that's his friend.
Well, that you just, I was with you.

Speaker 1 What part did I say wrong? You said what with him? He got a lot of people tattooed on his body. That's fair.
People we never met tattooed on his body. That's all.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. Fair enough.
He ain't shooting for him. What? Flip what? No.

Speaker 1 I don't got Drake on my body.

Speaker 1 No, honestly, that's the most I've ever paid attention to guy friendships. That's not Joe.
Dango, Jim. Jim, fucking Cam,

Speaker 1 LeBron, and Drake.

Speaker 1 Some niggas value friendships differently, though, Joe. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 You act like publicly that you don't value friendships, but you value friendships as well.

Speaker 1 You probably are able to mask it better than others, but you know, some people just value friendship different. That's it.
I understand what they're saying now.

Speaker 1 Like, I would be mad if if a nigga was dissing me and you fucking went to his concert and he's calling me a PDF. I would be mad too.

Speaker 1 But I would also say,

Speaker 1 like, that doesn't warrant you to destroy my family. Right.
That's that's that's the angle I said. That's true.

Speaker 1 That doesn't want, like, you know, we can discuss that, we can fight, but then now my family could be destroyed forever. And my wife can live.

Speaker 1 I don't think you're trying to destroy his family. That ain't for that.
But we don't think so.

Speaker 1 Listen, a lot of niggas heard that. I agree.
Listen, in this case,

Speaker 1 if Drake purposely put that shit out there, he's trying to destroy this man's family.

Speaker 1 For all Drake knows, or create turmoil in this man's family. But for all you know, if this if you're my man and you know what's up, me and my wife done fought, we done been through all of that.

Speaker 1 That ain't trying to destroy my family. I'm trying to destroy your public image.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm trying to show them that you are not who you put.
That's what embarrasses his wife.

Speaker 1 And now you're embarrassing my fucking wife to the world.

Speaker 1 Now you are embarrassing my children to the world. Nigga, you are trying to destroy my family and throw something in my family's bag.
That's some bullshit. It's still bullshit.
I'm with trees.

Speaker 1 Listen, in the industry, you hear about the phone shit. You hear about these little, but nobody comes and talk about it.
It's an unspoken rule of, nigga, I see you.

Speaker 1 Make sure you put the phone away, nigga, lock the phone up in the ziplock, but we're not going to come up here and expose it. Because it's just man shit.

Speaker 1 I don't want a nigga to expose it.

Speaker 1 I need to be wildling the shit you see. Yo, you over there, too? Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't give a fuck if a nigga stole out of my house.

Speaker 1 I am not getting on Twitter to say, I'm going to tell you how he was cheating.

Speaker 1 Why you gave Drake the same voice you give your woman impersonations?

Speaker 1 I wasn't giving that voice to Drake because I'm not saying that he said that. You can't prove that he said that.
He put that on him. That's true.
That was my own. We just speculated.

Speaker 1 And if he did that shit with malicious intent and malice, you are on some goofy ass shit. Or he might have been trying to do it.

Speaker 1 Speaking from man code, it look like,

Speaker 1 but the journalists would never report on just what something looks like. That's right.
Journalistic integrity. Yeah.
Now it's time for my favorite part of the show. What else we got to say about Dre?

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Speaker 1 Well, indeed. It wasn't the best week of playoffs.
Good to see playoff football intercurrence happening. It was intense.

Speaker 1 The games, I didn't love the games with the exception of the fucking Red Scouts. The Red Commanders.
Commander. That's racist.

Speaker 1 That's racist.

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Speaker 1 You want to change his name back?

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Have it.

Speaker 1 What am I saying? Yeah, the Commanders game was really, really good.

Speaker 1 Let me give picks. Since the Lions did not play last week and I gave you Jameer Gibbs, I'm giving you Jameer Gibbs again for more than...
He's going to go crazy. I got him for more than 90 rush yards.

Speaker 1 Let's go Saquon. I'm I'm riding with the good guys.
Let's go Saquon for more than 80 rush yards.

Speaker 1 Cooper Cup went off, so let's go with Puka Nakua, my man, fantasy star for the last two seasons. Give me him for more than 70 receiving yards.
And does Travis Kelsey pick up this week?

Speaker 1 Nah, I'm staying away from him. Staying away from him.
Give me,

Speaker 1 give me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to pick somebody else. Who else is playing? D-Hop.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey. After not playing two weeks.
Healthy Travis Kelsey. He said he didn't want to.
Too scary. I don't know what Taylor Swift did to him in the house.
It's too spooky for me. I don't know.

Speaker 1 In that Eagles game, it looked like A.J. Brown had another fight to the head coach in him if he don't get the ball again.
Maybe I'll go A.J. Brown.
Yeah, give me A.J. Brown.
Another fantasy star.

Speaker 1 Give me A.J. Brown for more than 60 receiving yards.

Speaker 1 And give me Pat Mahomes for more than 250. Pat Mahomes should show up.

Speaker 1 That's the defense, though, boy. Actually, never mind.
Scratch Pat Mahomes. Give me Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you go. Yeah, yeah.
Give me Josh Allen. That Houston defense ain't no joke.
Yeah, Houston's Houston. That secondary is

Speaker 1 Jesus can be in the secondary with Moses as a safety. Pat Mahomes is Pat Mahomes, bro.

Speaker 1 We're going to see. We're going to see.
Yeah, but they ain't scored more than 30 points all year.

Speaker 1 He averages 245 yards a game. But, okay.

Speaker 1 But he said 250, so.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Fucking Pat Mahomes. I'm so glad we don't have to hear from Sky Mahomes.
What's his little brother name again? I forgot. What's his little brother name?

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Speaker 1 That's right, goddammit. Now,

Speaker 1 it'll bother my OCD for the rest of the week that we had that entire Jim Cam conversation and did not play the Jim Jones. That's the wrong plug.
That's the wrong plug.

Speaker 1 That's just going to charge you up. Well, where's the shit?

Speaker 1 Right here, right here. Oh, there it is.
Thanks, mal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to bother me if we don't play the Jim freestyle snippet that he put out. That shit was hard.
Jim Jones rapping might not be for everybody, but I absolutely love it. It's for me.

Speaker 1 I absolutely love it. I'll take it.
And he wore pink in the video.

Speaker 1 Jenny Jones. Yes, sir.
I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 Static, what up?

Speaker 1 You gotta remind them who you are.

Speaker 1 Remind them who you are.

Speaker 1 Remind them you a star. Gotta remind them who you are sometimes.
Talk to him though.

Speaker 1 I done put so much work and I could have died on the job. I really been in the kitchen for children.

Speaker 1 I've been in powerhouse where they scream loudly. I done walked out my building and I seen bodies.
I've been in court to deals looking like he's seen Gotti.

Speaker 1 And all my niggas do their time, you know, my team body.

Speaker 1 It's been seven years since I seen Shodi.

Speaker 1 It's been seven years since since I saw Melly. And now we gotta fly straight cause he got four fellies.
Nigga, I've been gone to the tunnel since you saw Belly.

Speaker 1 I done been through the most. Niggas talk about we fake bloods.
I had to spin for the coast. Shit, that was 20 years ago.
Let's go, James.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 We not jacking that. It's not a place that we go that.
We not packing that.

Speaker 1 You know, we'll strip this whole shit like an acrobat.

Speaker 1 And everything that you want, I'm coming back for that.

Speaker 1 So what more you want to ask me? You niggas taught me how to rap and I want platinum.

Speaker 1 Listen. It's all good.

Speaker 1 I love it. Same.
I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 And what I was saying, listen, man,

Speaker 1 to the dudes that are fortunate enough to have been in this game 20 plus years, right? Like

Speaker 1 we're getting a little older, so time, we got time on our side. To the people that have been in this game more than 20 years,

Speaker 1 there'll be

Speaker 1 ebbs and flows,

Speaker 1 peaks and valleys. There's going to be a time where it wasn't the greatest.
I see people keep bringing up the rucker. I was there, I seen it.
Whoopty-doo. Well, I wasn't there, but I was outside.

Speaker 1 So I seen it. Whoopty-doo.
What else they keep bringing up? Like, who gives a fuck, man? We didn't see it. All I be needing to know from niggas is, will you fight and can you fight? That's it.

Speaker 1 After that, it's up to your own fucking, make up your own views. And you get more props for fighting instead of knowing how to fight.
I get the niggas props that will fight more than the niggas that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like it's nothing. Jim will fight.

Speaker 1 Especially on that airport escalator.

Speaker 1 Elbow room when I'm on the airport escalator, nigga. Whatever airport that was.
Fucking, what else? Go Freddie Gibbs shit like who? Like,

Speaker 1 when you've been here long enough,

Speaker 1 it don't need to be said. Don't need to be said.
Shout out to Kim, uh, Kim and Jim. I know I keep doing that.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Kim and Jim. Shout out to Mace.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mace. I just had some popcorn the other day.
Went to see Dinner Thieves too. Hey,

Speaker 1 went to see that Dinner Thieves.

Speaker 1 10:45 on a Sunday night.

Speaker 1 So when I ordered my buffalo spring chicken rolls and ate them shits, I took a nap.

Speaker 1 I was dozing off in there.

Speaker 1 And every time I woke up,

Speaker 1 I didn't care about.

Speaker 1 Who ate it?

Speaker 1 I'm a faithful black man.

Speaker 1 Dress niche, right there. No, it's not.
He could have been with his girl. No.

Speaker 1 Or it could have been alone. True.
My girl has been here too much. Go.
Go.

Speaker 1 How long does it take for you to miss her? That's why I like dating people with kids. Like, eventually, they will have to get back to

Speaker 1 their kids.

Speaker 1 Hello, what? How long she got to be away before you want her back again?

Speaker 1 I asked her.

Speaker 1 Are you asking the room? I asked in that in the kitchen. I'm asking everybody.
You made me think of it. Yeah, to everybody.
I'm asking because my wife's been gone for like a solid four days.

Speaker 1 And now I'm kind of like, okay, I wish she was here again. But the first four, the first four, I was great.

Speaker 1 Don't let Joe front. The nigga was in the kitchen said, I wish they had the charcuterie.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 I wish my girl was here to bring me. Yeah, I see.
You miss your girl, don't you? Try to ignore me. Don't do that.
I hate when you're there.

Speaker 1 No, my girl being here is the only way I'll get my monies for her.

Speaker 1 You can't say that. Why? She will pop up, nigga.
No, because she is so great at that domesticated shit. But when it's long distance, like, I need my charcuterie board.
I need you to take the stand.

Speaker 1 I need you.

Speaker 1 I need mine. I need mine for a few things.
So when she's not here,

Speaker 1 maybe, maybe a day. Shout out to the domesticated ones, ones, man.
I'll be wanting mine back.

Speaker 1 He does.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the niggas. That's up there, baby out there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to mine.

Speaker 1 Only I can find you.

Speaker 1 They're in the car singing with me.

Speaker 1 Here you go, biggest.

Speaker 1 You throw that on an R ⁇ B night, boy.

Speaker 1 Boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so probably about a day. I always miss mine, man.
I have a good time with mine. The bed feels so lonely and empty without her.
Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I need a couple more, but. But y'all live together.
When you live together, I feel like you need like two or three days to get that out your system. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 We ain't going to live together when we live together. These houses I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 These houses I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 I could live in.

Speaker 1 I could live in the movie room. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Come down those four flights.

Speaker 2 You saw what Cheryl Lee Ralph said?

Speaker 2 The reason her marriage for 20 years has worked is because they do not live in the same house.

Speaker 1 They don't live in the same coast. That part, yeah.
Vincent Hughes lives in Philadelphia, and she lives in LA. Feeling that?

Speaker 2 I think that is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Let's have a couple of homes.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Some of your beliefs.
When are you going to? Nope.

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 1 Nope. It's a trap.
It's a trick. I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 She tried to trick me. I was bread crumbing.
I was.

Speaker 1 Bread crumbing.

Speaker 1 Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 I like that little reverb.

Speaker 1 You said you had a question. Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm good. You clarify.
How many more days before she come back?

Speaker 1 Another, I think, like, she's four.

Speaker 1 Four. And I'm getting to the point now, like, damn near Mr.
Folor Purple. Like the crib is not right.

Speaker 1 You did leave her for about four or five days when she was sick.

Speaker 1 I was protecting. I didn't believe her.

Speaker 1 No, no, I said it on the thing. That's different.

Speaker 1 I really didn't want to fucking. Let me live it.

Speaker 1 If you want to go out tonight, I'll go out with you.

Speaker 1 It's a part that he missing. It should be turning up.
You miss her because you're home with the baby.

Speaker 1 That's part of it.

Speaker 1 That's a big part of it. Because that motherfucker wears easy.
That's the part he is.

Speaker 1 He is kicking my ass. I mean, and I'm not.
You be low-key draw snitching.

Speaker 1 It's all special, yo. I ain't dropping snitches.

Speaker 1 This is why you keep your business to yourself, right? Because we're like, what about you?

Speaker 1 I like being at home with the boy. It's all good.
I'm not as good at this shit. Like, Ish was killing me because I used to say,

Speaker 1 he needs a coat because it's wintertime. Like,

Speaker 1 we're not going. He ain't walking three feet.

Speaker 1 Yo, your son needs a coat. Somebody put his son under his arm like this and walked him to the car with no coat.
He's trying to protect the strip. What's wrong with you, yo?

Speaker 1 Well, can I ask y'all a question? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ever seen Mark walk in here with a coat?

Speaker 1 I never seen Mark in a coat. Just jean jackets and Hillman hoodies.

Speaker 1 I wore one, but you weren't here. You were away.
I had a coat on. It was really cold that day up in Queens.
It's really cold outside. It's not raining today.

Speaker 1 I park right in front. I park right in front of front.
You're low on the iron right now. Yeah, it is.
It's not. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 The iron is low.

Speaker 1 It was 28 this morning.

Speaker 1 You got the sciatica or whatever that shit is.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas are sick. It's not that cold.
She said 28. It was cold.
Ain't no wind blowing. Exactly.
Thank you. No, there were winds.
There's winds. All right.
It's fucking cold.

Speaker 1 It's cold.

Speaker 1 You know what you show me? That no matter what degrees you got and shit like that, like niggas still got fucked up shit when it comes to being your good dad, but you're in the pops, nigga.

Speaker 1 Put the coat on a child. It's stupid.
This is just so that people on the street don't stop me and tell me, wipe, that baby needs a coat. That's the only reason.

Speaker 1 It's so that every auntie on the fucking corner don't. Because the baby needs a jacket.
We only walk into the car. The car is heated.
My house, I pull up in the driveway.

Speaker 1 The boy only walking three feet.

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 wanna my girl for this. And you can't wear the coat.
His thing, you can't wear a coat in the car seat. So you put the coat on, then you walk to the car, and you gotta take the coat.

Speaker 1 So you look like, oh, you can wear a coat in the car seat. No, you can't.
You absolutely can wear just under the car. You're being frugal, nigga.
You can't buy a big car.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a nice thing to have a child in a coat in the car seat.
Exactly. It's dangerous.
Really? That's why you take the coat off the nigga in the car.

Speaker 1 And so instead of putting a coat on, having this crazy two-year-old run around in the cold, I I just take him without the coat, carry him like this, while the wind is hitting his head.

Speaker 1 Like the wind, like his head while his head is close to the wind, OJ said, oh, that's probably bad. He said, Herschel Walker, go get you to the car.

Speaker 1 I strap him into the seat, and then we go. Gotcha, okay.
All right, Ma. And I hope my wife ain't looking on the security camera.
Does your wife listen to this pun?

Speaker 1 Not the whole thing. Are we sweet? If you notice, what I talk about in minute two versus what I talk about in hour two, very different.
Got it.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 Don't doubt her she she read the descriptions

Speaker 1 then the niggas in the description

Speaker 1 at one hour 12 mark talks about holding his son them niggas say ball and whoever to put that together them be violent i don't like that like that lick you know i i heard the time

Speaker 1 i talk he writes i'll be talking crazy hour two three

Speaker 1 i saw this girl now she pressing the button them niggas man them remote niggas i don't like y'all that used to be my strategy happy birthday but fuck it that used to be my strategy too she started listening to the very last second of this.

Speaker 1 You used to get this shit on. All the time in the world.
The Patreons, After Sleepers, all the shit. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Why y'all think I don't play? And start telling me that you're playing. You don't play.
You don't play? You a hitch. It's going to say shit.
She hear whatever she hears her friend hurt.

Speaker 1 It's going to say shit. I love my mother-in-law.
I love my family. I love my children.

Speaker 1 He's talking now.

Speaker 1 Y'all.

Speaker 1 My mother-in-law on this one. She was an actual chef.
She parade the food for the baby. Oh, I'm so appreciative.
I ain't doing like that.

Speaker 1 Don't say shit. Behind the scenes camera, he started talking.
And he looked, nigga, close the curtain. This is a new year.
It might be time to redo that whole G card thing.

Speaker 1 Nah, not really. It should still be up, Joe.
I can't wait till your lady come back, man. All this 12,000

Speaker 1 in the house.

Speaker 1 All this shit you talking, man, G card. You ain't gonna have no fucking shit.
That's gonna stop playing with Shawty. I'm him, man.

Speaker 1 No, you're not. Put your jersey in the rafters, dog.

Speaker 1 But I'm him. Hey, listen, Ma, I'm him.

Speaker 1 Another one. Oh, for the other number.

Speaker 1 When I change my number, it's up there already. Yo, Ma, he's not that.
I know he's not. Hey, listen.
I know. Yo, we talking in the kitchen, just regular shit.
And guess who come in?

Speaker 1 Shade from behind, quiet, too, with the heavy shit. She just ninja.
She like that. Because she don't walk, she float.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And Joe be, his expression be the same thing. Like,

Speaker 1 I took a dead, man. Like, he'd be so shocked.
Well, that's the thing. That's why niggas can't trip me up no more.
I know who I'm with. You're right.
He said that to me. I don't play.

Speaker 1 He said that to to me. I don't play.
See, that's the G card for me, just not playing with the person you love. So you don't risk losing them.

Speaker 1 That's real.

Speaker 1 You learned it. Okay, you learned it.
That's a new G card. That's the platinum shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the platinum.
You are now watching the masked at work. Remember, I told you that.

Speaker 1 That drop belonged to you, nigga, because you be doing some bullshit. I ain't gonna find that.
And as soon as she moves, watch you're gonna be doing spaces at 1 a.m. on Friday nights and shit.

Speaker 1 You're gonna be in the house. You ain't going nowhere near no place.
I think it'd be different. You didn't have a side house anyway.
A side house. Okay.
She She probably would go to the side house.

Speaker 1 That's LeBron problem. Nigga, you could have just had the Toronto crib.
You didn't need to go to Drake's.

Speaker 1 You rich enough to just had a little side by the airport. You know how we go.
Come on. I don't know nothing about that.
Nope. You don't know about it?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't do nothing. I really don't cheat.
You still used to cheat. You did used to cheat.
You said that on the spotcast. No, I never said that.
You said you never said that.

Speaker 1 I never said you had women that you were with that you cheated on in the past. You did say that.
Not in a relationship. I never said that.
I said,

Speaker 1 I have been polyamorous, but I've never been committed to somebody and cheated on them. That's what he said.
Yeah. But I've had, I've had some.
Polyamorous is the new age ways.

Speaker 1 No, because

Speaker 1 you got it. Nobody ever thought that nobody's saying that.
Nobody ever thought I was monogamous and I wasn't, is what I'm saying. Nobody ever thought that they were the only person when they weren't.

Speaker 1 Oh. So if you had the other crib, all parties knew what could happen.

Speaker 1 I didn't never need another crib. When you do it, when you move like that, you don't need no other crib.
We got this, Tallinn. Mute up.
Don't say nothing, yo. We got it.

Speaker 1 My muscle ain't saying a word,

Speaker 1 bro.

Speaker 1 Talk to him, talk to him.

Speaker 1 I know that hoodie blue, nigga. You got a new shit.
Let's get it, nigga.

Speaker 1 Um, what else? What else? What else is going on? That's important, unimportant. Oh, Jell-O.

Speaker 1 Jell-O. Shout out to him.
L'Angelo Ball.

Speaker 1 I thought he said Jell-O. I thought it was a bad thing.

Speaker 1 The company went out of business. I said, damn, it's over Jell-O?

Speaker 1 I thought it was over for them. I don't eat that shit.
It's gelatin. But I used to.

Speaker 1 I used to eat jello, nigga.

Speaker 1 We could tell. We could tell.

Speaker 1 We all ate jello. Do y'all niggas know how to make it? You got to put that shit in the freezer, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know how to make it, but I used to eat it.

Speaker 1 It used to be in the free lunches and shit.

Speaker 1 That's the only time I used to eat it. Jell-O shots.
Oh, and Jell-O shots. And Joelle shots.
Jell-Jell-O shots. Oh, got it.
Yeah, fuck it. I don't eat that shit no more pork.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I don't know know how it's made, Parks. That mixture shit, I don't know how the fuck they do it.
Vodka and Joe.

Speaker 1 And water.

Speaker 1 Yo, ma'am.

Speaker 1 If you was on the soul trade line, right? Would you have the big afro or the Felicia Braids?

Speaker 1 Because you know, you be trying to freak shit out, or would you have half and half? Like,

Speaker 1 I see.

Speaker 1 For real, man. Like I said, a lot of people.
That's a hard choice.

Speaker 2 I'd probably rock my fro.

Speaker 1 Okay, now would you do the bell bottoms and do this?

Speaker 1 That stupid shit, or would you like stupid shit? Because you know,

Speaker 1 you always say, yo, I was there for my looks in the videos. I can't dance.
So, how would you go? You have to go down the line, bro. And your hair is thinning now.

Speaker 1 Why would you say that to me?

Speaker 1 Wow. Because I asked her before why she don't rock the airfro.

Speaker 1 That is not what my response was. That was not my response.
And she don't like that. Nigga just made his own piece.
Don't run your face.

Speaker 1 So how would you do? You wouldn't dance down the line. You'll just walk.
You can't walk. No, no.
You got to

Speaker 1 give her a beat.

Speaker 1 Soul train line right there.

Speaker 1 I think the fuck not.

Speaker 1 A lot of women. Man, I'll probably do this stupid shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd probably, I'd figure it out.

Speaker 1 Big man.

Speaker 1 Some rhythm for this one. Big man.

Speaker 1 You gotta do the spin right here, man.

Speaker 1 Wait, what the fuck is happening right now? Big Male Train Line. Big Mines.
Big Man.

Speaker 1 Hey, we doing the Jennifer Hudson, the walk line. What's the girl name?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. Jennifer Hudson.
It It is Jennifer Hudson? Yeah, it's Jennifer Hudson. When all the girls were sexually harassing

Speaker 1 action figure-ish. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Action figure-ish. So why? So she cut the...
Look at you on this dick. So they cut the comments off? Actually.

Speaker 1 They had to.

Speaker 1 What do you think about that? What do you think about Jennifer Hudson cutting the comments off because all the women were sexually harassing Aaron people?

Speaker 2 I think that it was the right decision to make.

Speaker 1 Why your foot moving up like that? You good? I'm fine. Well, don't you think this should be like,

Speaker 1 it should be a louder voice like over all topics that involve sexual harassment?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I just don't see many people having a conversation and moving the needle about all the women that were sexually harassing that man, talking about look at his crotch, look at his dick, one night with you.

Speaker 1 Come in, cat daddy, fuck your wife. Like all that shit that they were saying in there.
That if God said it, it'd be horrible. I personally.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking with you, man. I know.
I'm fucking with you.

Speaker 1 L'Angelo Ball

Speaker 1 got.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
The number kept changing. 8 million, 13, 8 million guaranteed.
13 million.

Speaker 1 I have no idea what. Yeah, the labels give out guaranteed deals.

Speaker 1 They guaranteed him 8 million and they said he gets the right to own all of his music and they give him his own label. I was going to ask y'all what that actually means.
Nothing. Publicist talk.

Speaker 1 Sounds crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, I bought it.

Speaker 1 Me too. When it came out, I bought it.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Benny.

Speaker 1 I might swerve in that corner. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Bitch, I'm a tweaking. I'm tweaking this bitch.
I'm letting shit go. And I heard that she wanna show

Speaker 1 me who she be. I'm kinda fucking with it.
Show me some more. Bitch, we tatted here here to talk to give a fuck the story wrote.
You wanna tweak it up with me, and I'ma show you how they do.

Speaker 1 Let the money in my pockets blow.

Speaker 1 They have the combos about me. These truths and niggas don't know.
Tell me what they talking about. I ain't fucking listening.
Let your thoughts run your mouth, but ain't touching dividends.

Speaker 1 New music, new music, blue music.

Speaker 1 Fix your face up, Mel.

Speaker 1 I'm fine. I'm just, I'm don't hate.
I'm not hating. I'm just processing.
He moved 100 of those too. They need to fix it.
94,000.

Speaker 1 That's a good number. Yo, these niggas are liars.

Speaker 1 That's my take on this. These niggas are liars.
They're lying. I don't know why they think everybody is stupid.
Because they are.

Speaker 1 Niggas is running around believing this. The music business is in absolute shambles.

Speaker 1 Artists, executives, ARs,

Speaker 1 people are getting laid off left and right.

Speaker 1 Majors are consolidating. They are getting rid of imprints, people with imprints.

Speaker 1 It's an absolute mess out here. And y'all want me to believe that LeAngelo Ball is the one to come and resurrect things.

Speaker 1 Because I think this song is a little bop.

Speaker 1 And it is. It is a bop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I could think that. So if he sold 90% of the people,

Speaker 1 that's just totally out of here. More reason for me to say that these niggas are lying sacks of shit.

Speaker 1 Don't tell me you sold $94,000 independently and then rushed to go sign some deal. Well, that's the part I didn't.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that. Why would you want to do that as him? Because he's not in the music business.
But I mean, he's surrounded by smart people, lawyers, his whole family. It seemed like a bad choice.

Speaker 1 If my younger brother has a $260 million contract, I'm in the music business.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. So you don't need an $8 million.

Speaker 1 I don't need anything.

Speaker 1 Who's his younger brother?

Speaker 1 Lamello Boom? Lamello Bo.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you're right. That's

Speaker 1 the younger. He's younger? Yeah.
Oh, I know. He's the middle.
He's the middle church. Lamello's the youngest.
Classic middle church.

Speaker 1 And if my older brother has an $80 million deal, I'm in the music business. That's what I'm saying.
I'm in the music business. The music business is a bank.

Speaker 1 It's some money and some people with connections that's going to press some buttons, and none of them are doing it now because of the fires in L.A.

Speaker 1 Our thoughts and our prayers are with everybody battling all the fires in L.A. I know too many people out there.

Speaker 1 I haven't called you because I assume that y'all are all busy dealing with real life shit, but I love y'all. I'm praying for y'all and my heart goes out to y'all.

Speaker 1 All of that shit is devastating still.

Speaker 1 That can be an active thought in my head, along with every conspiracy theory that I have about what's going on out there. And I do have a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 I've been calling everybody I know out there, just same.

Speaker 1 And some people are fucked up. Some are, you know,

Speaker 1 it didn't get to them yet. Some like, you know, it's getting closer.

Speaker 1 So we leaving, it's fucked up, bro.

Speaker 1 It's nothing to joke about with that shit. Yeah, no, not at all.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 So yeah, back to these lying niggas here.

Speaker 1 And then Def Jam, huh? Nigga, if y'all don't knock it off,

Speaker 1 Def Jam ain't,

Speaker 1 I know people are vanishing, shut up, but stop it. Just stop it.

Speaker 1 Enough. Enough.
So this is all the big PR stuff for both of them. That's all this is.
Yes, this is, man. That's all this is.
I don't get it. A bunch of gibberish about absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 What's the end result or the hope for?

Speaker 1 Bring more attention to the record.

Speaker 1 What do everybody that do this shit for? Clicks in attention.

Speaker 1 That's it. Get more eyes on yourself.
So what kind of deal would he really, in reality, if this is all bullshit, right? I get it. I get why they both might do that.

Speaker 1 Somebody said that it is a licensing deal and the 8 million is in advance, but there's a cap on how much of that is paid out and when it's paid out. So again, it's all language, semantics.

Speaker 1 So even the guaranteed is not guaranteed, guaranteed. It's more of a.
That might have gave you half a mil.

Speaker 1 Even if I lie, I gave you a mil. I mean, I don't know the labels to be so generous nowadays, but again, I'm a dinosaur.
I'm far removed from this.

Speaker 1 And if there was something they would give money to, it would be the viral hit from someone that doesn't make music. I don't believe it.
That's been a trend for a while. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 I don't think it would be a deaf jam. I don't think there is a deaf jam.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's a Def Jam.

Speaker 1 I think they're all lying.

Speaker 1 But again, I don't know shit. I don't know.
Congrats on whatever you got going on. For sure.
I like the song. The song is a slide.
And I heard he got at least one more hit on him.

Speaker 1 And maybe he's got another one. Who knows? See, that's how people get these lying-ass deals.
Little rumors like that right now.

Speaker 1 I heard he got two. Oh, no, no.
Another one.

Speaker 1 This one, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Lonzo played a snippet of it in the locker room. It's not, it exists.
I've heard it. I'm just saying I didn't hear enough of it to vouch for it, but it's people who were saying it was high.

Speaker 1 Flash to y'all out there.

Speaker 1 Everything sounds doper in the snippet. Oh, man.
That's true. That's true.
Timmy Turner. Timmy, Jimmy, Timmy Turner.
She sounded crazy in the snippet, nigga. Man, it still was good, but he's right.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Designer, man. I hope he's doing well.
Oh, man. Yeah, there's a few people I think about is I hope they're doing all right after all they went through.

Speaker 1 He got fucked. I hope Eddie Wab is all right, too.

Speaker 1 A couple years ago. I could do do a whole episode

Speaker 1 on all the people that I hope are all right.

Speaker 1 Do you speak from that because you came out of it?

Speaker 1 If I didn't come out of it, I would hope that these people are all right. Because you came out of it for real, nigga.
Your God don't play about you, nigga.

Speaker 1 You put your head through the grave at the Undertaker, nigga, 9-4.

Speaker 1 And walked out. None of it's possible without the fans.

Speaker 1 And you won't lose it again. Now, you're gonna lie.
I like how you're gonna talk to you because you're still humble, man. We had a little talk in the motherfucking strip club.

Speaker 1 And you vulnerable moment and shit.

Speaker 1 I get it. You had a vulnerable moment.
You get vulnerable in the strip club? No, I'm just saying, no, you're just talking to this man.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
Hold on.

Speaker 2 We haven't even gotten the play-by-play of you, him, and Imani at the strip club.

Speaker 1 Is there anything that you should do? You seem to be very interested in that. We all are.
Let me be careful. Let me know.
I promised. Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, real quick, I'll get to that. I'll let him lead that, but it's just a vulnerable moment, man.
The nigga has still got, you know, even though

Speaker 1 still got a little humbleness to him.

Speaker 1 I say that. Still a little humbleness.

Speaker 1 It could be a trick, but

Speaker 1 I know in the moment I looked at the environment. I said, oh, this is a nice place to tell you, man.
He had like a tear in his eye?

Speaker 1 Nah, he just was just, I understood what he was saying. And that's what it is.
Got it.

Speaker 1 So when he says lines like that, like, yo, I really feel for Feddy Wobb or designer.

Speaker 1 We crack jokes on him, but I know that he genuinely feel that way because he don't really talk about it because we fuck with niggas, but the situation wasn't too favorable. And he fought through that.

Speaker 1 Now you have a number of people. You can't fuck with me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You fought through it. You were patient.

Speaker 1 I mean, you fought through it. And I speak to the niggas that was in charge of the shit.
They're like, he fought through it. Boy, I'm going to tell you, oh,

Speaker 1 how long he did it? He got through it. And he laughed.
I said, nigga, shut up. For real.

Speaker 1 Put some money to decide on a rainy day for a lawyer, man. No matter what you're doing out there, especially for you entertainers.

Speaker 1 Get you a lawyer that's going to read all 907 pages of the bullshit that they put in front of you so that you don't find yourself working out of some irreversible debt and that you could never just get your fear shot.

Speaker 1 That is a fact. That's good advice.
That is very good advice. That's a great advice.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 L'Angelo Boy, you are a liar. What happened?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he's a liar. No, I was going to ask about the P-word where is it perpetuity? What's the word that they put in the contracts with no matter what? Perpetuity.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And there's no way out of that, right?

Speaker 1 Depends on how this shit is written.

Speaker 1 I'm a lawyer, yeah. Okay.
Well, if you flip the signature page, last page to say, you pussy.

Speaker 1 That's another three-word that's right there. We got him.
We got him.

Speaker 1 You were talking about the fires and shit. I just wanted to say, like, Beyonce was supposed to have been announcing something.

Speaker 1 And there's rumors about what it's going to be, whether it be act three, whether it be she's performing at the rodeo shit. And she pushed it back due to what was going on.
And

Speaker 1 I think that was pretty dope of her just because it's like we always say these celebrities don't know how to really read the room.

Speaker 1 And because if she would have said something to people, like, yo, dogs, you see what's going on out here? Don't break really want to hear this right now.

Speaker 2 She's pretty good at reading.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's real good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's never really been accused of being like tone deaf whenever there's some shit going on and pushing product and whatnot.

Speaker 1 The weekend did the same. The weekend pushed back his album and tour.

Speaker 1 uh there's a few labels that push back all grammy related activities i think universal did uh because of what's going on out there but the grammys are still going on they said because they want to help bring more awareness and

Speaker 1 donations i guess

Speaker 1 whatever they're such good people right

Speaker 1 kind-hearted

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 Maybe they'll bring Taraji Hintson out again and do some shit. Yo, Taraji and Kamala were so funny that year on the awards.

Speaker 1 That commercial they shot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were there in like a fake dressing room or something. Oh, Kamala's here.
Kamala.

Speaker 1 We are just so depressed, girl.

Speaker 1 I've been so bad. What would you do if you were?

Speaker 1 Well, funny you should ask Taraji.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yo, speaking of politics, you see Michelle Obama announced today she's not going to the inauguration,

Speaker 1 which I think is a really big deal. She also didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral.
And it's just because she don't want to be, well, I mean, I think.

Speaker 2 She wanted to be in the room with Trump.

Speaker 1 If Dre don't tell him LeBron,

Speaker 1 he might got the Barack foul. He might got the Bobese shit.

Speaker 1 It's hot in the Obama house.

Speaker 1 I'm joking, by the way. I'm joking.

Speaker 1 These niggas will sue the shit out of me. But no, I didn't see.
Yeah, that is a pretty big deal. It's a big deal.
They just announced it really as we started recording.

Speaker 1 And they didn't give a reason, just like they didn't give a reason for the other thing. But

Speaker 1 after inauguration, when Trump won the first time, she was very clear in saying that the reason she was making those facial expressions and the reason why the memes were saying all that, she said, it was all true.

Speaker 1 She said, I was not happy to be there. I didn't like looking around.
I didn't like seeing everything we worked for disappear. I didn't like seeing the lack of diversity, all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 So it tracks that now with Trump coming back again, she don't want to be there. And I actually respect the shit out of that.

Speaker 1 And that's what black women do. That's what black women do stand up.
They're like, look, you're going to see this on my face. I'm not going to hide it.
And I'm not showing up to this shit.

Speaker 1 I love Jimmy Carter, but I'm not showing up to his funeral either because I I don't want to shake Trump's hand. Kamala had to look at Trump that whole time.
All them other people had to look at Trump.

Speaker 1 She don't want to, so she's not going. I respect it.
Yeah, and I don't think she's a fan of Carrie Underwood.

Speaker 1 I respect the inauguration one, not the funeral.

Speaker 1 Because you make it a moment that's not about you, about you.

Speaker 1 I agree. How's that different than the inauguration? It's not.

Speaker 1 It's not about the person that your beef with is either

Speaker 1 at the funeral. It ain't about Trump.
This is not Trump's funeral. This is

Speaker 1 a carder. That's fair.

Speaker 1 This is Trump's inauguration. I can get you not going to that because I don't fuck with the helmet.
Right. You're the star of the show.
I'm not going to go to this just because he's there.

Speaker 1 I can see that. That's all.
I can see that. It's just so much pomp and circumstances in funerals, too, where you got to shake hands and pretend you like people and shit.

Speaker 1 You saw Donald Trump post the conversation between him and Barack with the subtitles, what they were talking about. I didn't see the subtitles.
I saw the clips. Was it real? I don't know.

Speaker 1 It looks funny to me. I'm going to find a journalist and see.

Speaker 1 But that's crazy. The fact that Obama was sitting there talking to Trump, that's the shit that you, and then everybody's dissecting that for the next three weeks.

Speaker 1 And Michelle Obama's not playing that shit. She's like, I'm going to sit here with my mouth shut and look unhappy.
So I'm not going to go. I mean, it's not real beef.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you talk to niggas, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think it's real beef.

Speaker 1 I think that was my point all that time. All y'all breaking up with family members and never speaking to people

Speaker 1 over Trump versus this person and these motherfuckers in the in the back room having jokes, laughing,

Speaker 1 breaking bread together. Like, they all run the same empire.
Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They all two wings are the same bird. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 That's all I had to say.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on the price gouging going on in Los Angeles? It is unconscionable.

Speaker 1 It is unconscionable. It's the same shit I was saying back in COVID.
You know, when I got my hands on a whole bunch of masks and I was, you know, selling them through Amazon,

Speaker 1 I felt terrible about it. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. You had me fucked up.
You didn't worry.

Speaker 1 That second shipment, man.

Speaker 1 No, but I hate to see exploitation.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 in moments of crisis, we should be dropping prices, not raising them. That's all.
I hate it. I hate every bit of it.
What are the prices good in theory, man?

Speaker 2 The prices of like Airbnbs and rental spots,

Speaker 2 it's astronomical. Like they doubled, not doubled, like they went up by like two, three hundred percent.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. that's insane i thought airbnb was giving them out for free

Speaker 1 ish woman going on the landlord side

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i i i mean i think from a humanistic standpoint you gotta uh

Speaker 1 realize that people are in a crisis and mad people

Speaker 1 that's why i asked about the landlord side i know we we we talking about the the upper part, like the Palisade part, those people are okay. But the lower part is is where I hear that the people

Speaker 1 are going to be in need and are in need, allegedly. I forgot the name of the Alta

Speaker 2 Altadina.

Speaker 2 And also, it's a misnomer that everybody in the Palisades was wealthy. There was people who inherited homes.
You know, there was people, there was apartment buildings in the Palisades.

Speaker 2 There's people who were, you know, lower to low mid-income, you know, living paycheck to paycheck people, citizens living in the Palisades.

Speaker 2 Like, it really is not just like celebrities in the Palisades in Malibu. It's not, it is businesses, it's regular working people that were affected by this.

Speaker 2 So the price gouging, first of all, isn't it illegal to do that when a national disaster has been declared? I feel like it's illegal to do that.

Speaker 1 I know it was, there were new laws that were imposed during COVID about commerce. I don't know about like rental properties and things like that.
That may be carved out.

Speaker 1 I don't know enough about that to say. But it shouldn't be.
I don't want, even if you're rich, I don't want you exploited. I don't want anybody exploited.

Speaker 1 And we live in this world now where you can do it.

Speaker 1 like I I went to try to get some tickets for the Apollo to watch the Luther thing I went to see it live at the Apollo um and the tickets with book research um yeah actually

Speaker 1 and it was thirty dollars the ticket was thirty dollars and I just forgot to hit the button I didn't want to tell my wife that I forgot to hit the button to get the tickets so I was like I'll just buy him I'll buy him secondary market 400 650 just on principle I was like fuck y'all I'm not going to do that but it's like now we live in a place where people if they feel like they can get you they will that can't be how we operate to each other we got to be better to each other than that, man.

Speaker 1 All that shit sounds good, man. Capitalism.
The real world we live in is supply and demand. As a landlord, and that's capitalism.
That's why capitalism is fucking critical.

Speaker 1 Crisis is where niggas make a lot of money. Niggas pray for crises.
You start talking about the humanistic

Speaker 1 as a landlord, like

Speaker 1 real.

Speaker 1 Would you do it?

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe not.
It depends on the circumstances.

Speaker 2 Wow. I'm a landlord, and I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 I'm a swerve in that root of all.

Speaker 1 I respect that. I'm a former landlord.

Speaker 1 I ran off with cake money.

Speaker 1 Not just that. Not just that.
You're such a hater. Not just that.

Speaker 1 Hey, buddy.

Speaker 1 What dictates market rent?

Speaker 1 I'm willing to

Speaker 1 be flexible in determining that, but there are numbers that we would all agree are unconscionable. That's all I'm saying.
So, for example, if the average rent in the place you rent places is,

Speaker 1 what's the average rent you charge, if you don't mind saying? Let me not do that. It depends on the area of the.

Speaker 1 Let's say the average rent is 2,000 where you rent, and there's mass flooding and fires in the area, and you start charging people 10,000.

Speaker 1 I think that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 There are some people that think 2,000 is fucked up.

Speaker 1 Maybe. And I'm willing to debate that number, but there's a number that we probably all agree.
I'm only doing this because people are desperate and have no choice.

Speaker 1 And when you're doing something because people are desperate and have no choice, that's where it's fucked up to me.

Speaker 1 Bro, then what's the difference? Well, I guess because it's the crisis part, but

Speaker 1 rarity, like, you know what I'm saying? A pair of fucking Travis Scott sneakers that's selling for 30 times, 40 times the price that's not a necessity.

Speaker 1 Because people don't need it, people aren't desperate for it. No, no, no, I'm giving it.
I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 Your shit is rare. Your shit is rare.

Speaker 1 I want you running the price up. I want your take.
Tell me your take.

Speaker 1 I agree, Mark.

Speaker 1 But you ain't agree when COVID was going on and landlords wasn't getting paid and they was in financial jeopardy and at risk of losing their houses and the government was giving people extra money and we sat in here and had a conversation how people were doing better actually during COVID and getting extra money and the government said they didn't have to pay their rent and you said fuck them landlords.

Speaker 1 I can't hearken back to all of that, but you and I have had that conversation a bunch. No, I'm on the side of the people, not the landlords.
Sorry. Sorry that.
Landlords are people.

Speaker 1 I'm on the side of the mass, the mass the people like the mass people so you're not on the side of unfairness you're on side of because again the scenario during covet a lot of people were getting unemployment plus an additional 600 a week a lot of those people were making more money than when they actually worked right and they should pay the rent and then the government said you don't have to pay your rent so niggas was going out buying new cars and all this other shit and landlords were literally losing their houses yeah and that's i had six houses in pre-foreclosure during covet six i had personally

Speaker 1 and could have potentially lost my houses. So fuck the landlords because they are supposedly the rich people, the big empire.

Speaker 1 Everybody that's a landlord, most landlords, ICE's grandparents are landlords. They mom and pop.
And those people use that money to survive off of. You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Everybody not fucking Donald Trump or

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 homeboy's name from Joe Button.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? So a lot of the Cushners and

Speaker 1 everybody is not those. Some of these people are the same exact people that just got burnt out in Palisade that are living check to check.

Speaker 1 A lot of those landlords are living check-to-check. So that's why I'm saying it's a circumstantial thing.
It's just not one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's an argument for making sure that middle and working class landlords are protected. That's not an argument for landlords exploiting people, the masses who are vulnerable.

Speaker 1 You missed on my point, and my question was to Joe. The landlords got exploited in that particular situation.
And we got to fix that. I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 And so that's why I wanted to hear his take on that particular situation. Because a lot of landlords lost their houses.
That's true. I lost their way.

Speaker 1 But I thought the government was going to pay the landlords. The government ain't pay nobody's shit.
Okay, then that's that's then I'm with

Speaker 1 that. They pay me.
I got that PPP money.

Speaker 1 That's not

Speaker 1 one of the landlords. No, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, that's not going. I'm saying they should have given landlords the same protection they gave other people.

Speaker 1 So the government

Speaker 1 only were protecting the people in need. They didn't protect the landlords.
There was nothing out there.

Speaker 1 Any programs that protect the people? It depended on how you owned your homes.

Speaker 1 So some people, like if you owned your home and a personal name, there was some shit that you could have done to not be in foreclosure.

Speaker 1 But even a lot of those banks took the money that you missed out on and just put it on the back of the loan. They didn't necessarily compensate you for any of the things that you lost.
Right.

Speaker 1 So I just think that we pick and share.

Speaker 1 I hate your COVID example because, like I told you back then, the owner has things that he has to pay and that he is responsible for, whether there's a rent today or not.

Speaker 1 You own the property it is yours

Speaker 1 you're wrong how's up

Speaker 1 that's like saying

Speaker 1 my more i pay a mortgage right but i'm providing a service so regardless you just added something to what i'm saying quick question

Speaker 1 you got a house and everybody in that house moves out and you have trouble renting that house for three months you have to pay it you still got to pay the mortgage right whether it's empty so what he's saying is whether it's empty or not, that's your asset.

Speaker 1 It's still on you. You have to take it.
Is that answering it? Yes or no?

Speaker 1 Yes and no. So when somebody's living in your house and

Speaker 1 you paying some of the utilities and all of those other things, even when the house is vacant, I have the ability to rent it again.

Speaker 1 When somebody's living in my house, not paying rent and I can't get them out, you are taking my option to rent that house. That's why I asked you the question.

Speaker 1 You were having the trouble of renting it for three months.

Speaker 1 yeah but you still have the option to rent it but you did not yeah this is january you don't get the house rented till april yeah but i think what he's saying is when when it's empty

Speaker 1 i'm i as a as a business owner i'm taking a risk that i may not be able to rent it out right but i think you take that same risk when you rent it Right, but his point is when the government creates a situation where I can't get rid of the person.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit in and say, I can't kick you out and you have to live here for the next two years, you are taking my option to rent the house out away from me. Now it's not a gamble.

Speaker 1 Now it's an impossibility. It's not apples and apples.
And my heart heart goes out to the people that lost everything that they had.

Speaker 1 Their businesses were unable to pay rent before it goes to the landlord that was going to have to pay this either way. Sorry that you had your fucking arms cut off.

Speaker 1 So if that's the case, if somebody don't come sit down and eat in your restaurant, you still got to pay your bills, right? Correct.

Speaker 1 A thousand percent. If somebody don't come eat your spaghetti, you still got to pay the rent to the landlord, right? Yes.
So what's the difference? We look at landlords like they not business owners.

Speaker 1 You are running a business. If you run one home and you got a three-family household and you have three tenants, you are providing a service the same way somebody's providing food to a customer.

Speaker 1 It's no different. I'm providing safe and adequate housing to you.
I deserve to be compensated for that.

Speaker 1 The same way if I own a sneaker store and somebody runs out the door with my fucking sneakers in their hand, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 I don't think that the renters should have been put out in the street and been without shelter. I don't think that either.

Speaker 1 And I don't think the landlords should have had a government moratorium that says that they don't have to get their money. And again, when the government was substituting...

Speaker 1 But I think that's a landlord beef to the government. That's what I'm saying.
That's a landlord beef. That should be a mechanism.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Not to the people.
You're wrong. No.
When the government is paying people extra money. See, that's pocket watching.

Speaker 1 But you say the government's incentivizing people not to pay the rent. No.
Yes, that's what he said. The government told people they didn't have to pay their rent.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 and I gave you more bread. But the reason, they didn't just wake up and decide that.

Speaker 1 There were reasons why they did that, and I think those reasons are paramount to whatever the landlord is saying.

Speaker 1 I think you're the blind spot, right? So

Speaker 1 you don't, you just forget the reasons that the government, the government is paying people extra money for a reason. Yes.
Okay. So these people are not desolate, some of them.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 The government is paying you extra money because you can't go to work,

Speaker 1 which is what you were going to work to pay your bills. Exactly.
And to live. So now if I'm doing that.
So now more money, why the fuck are you going to do that? We're supplementing that bills.

Speaker 1 We're supplementing that because you can't go to work. So that's what I'm saying.
You're the best.

Speaker 1 Joe, if we didn't have to come to work and the government told you you still got to pay us, but we didn't have to pod, you would feel away.

Speaker 1 Say it again. I don't have to.
You heard me? No, say it again.

Speaker 1 If the government told you you had to pay us and we didn't have to come to work and we didn't have to pod for the next two years and you still had to pay all of our salaries, you would feel away.

Speaker 1 How does that correlate to what we're talking about? Because I'm telling you, the service being provided by the landlord is safe and adequate housing.

Speaker 1 And you are saying that you have to have these people live in your house for free, which is you paying them for free and they don't have to provide nothing. Back to you.

Speaker 1 I don't think the podcast example is that. But also, I think we got to take a step back.
That's why I'm saying you're the blind spot, meaning that

Speaker 1 the law was created so that big businesses, big landlords, big corporations, big property companies aren't taking mass amounts of people and putting them on the street when they can't afford it.

Speaker 1 But everybody, and that's why I'm saying the problem with the law is that people like Ish get hurt too. So I'm saying the fix isn't to stop the moratorium on evictions.

Speaker 1 I think we need the moratorium on evictions, but to create a mechanism so that Ish still gets his money. And I'm saying we could do both.

Speaker 1 Ish getting his money comes secondary to

Speaker 1 with the masses being properly sheltered.

Speaker 1 And it don't say that because the government said to give niggas some money, that those people now have to take what their only income is and hand it to a landlord.

Speaker 1 You're talking about people with kids. You're talking about people who are in the middle of the moment.

Speaker 1 That's what they was doing anyway when they was going to fucking work.

Speaker 1 They were taking their income, paying their bills.

Speaker 1 So if the government is subsidizing your income and giving you potentially more than what you were making when you were going to work, you should still be responsible for paying your bills.

Speaker 1 You ignored what I said. No, I didn't.
Okay, then you didn't reply to what I said. That money the government was giving so people could live.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Not pay rent.

Speaker 1 Not pay rent. You equating the two.
What do you go? So the money you get from going to work is for what? The money you get from going to work is.

Speaker 1 Food, family. I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Your salary from going to work is to do what? But here's the issue. The money the government gives you isn't a salary.
So that's the difference.

Speaker 1 They're replacing your salary because you can't go to work. No, no, but listen what I'm saying.
Listen what I'm saying. That is true.

Speaker 1 If the money, if I make $600 a month and the government gives me $600 a month, then it's just 100% right. They were giving them $900.
They were giving you, yeah, so that's not a money.

Speaker 1 If I make $900 a month,

Speaker 1 if you're making $1,000 a month, the government was giving them $1,600 a month. I'm with you, right?

Speaker 1 So if you could pay your bills on $1,000, how the fuck do you not pay your bills on $1,600?

Speaker 1 And I'm agreeing with you at that point, but I'm saying for a large number of people, the amount that they were getting in income was less than what you're doing.

Speaker 1 that's not true that is not true you are

Speaker 1 not wrong you're telling me

Speaker 1 are you telling me he is wrong

Speaker 1 are you he is wrong are you telling me that everybody in the country that got a government subsidy got six hundred dollars more than their income mark number one i'm asking this a direct question i'm gonna answer them mark number one you have to know the the median income of the people in the country that's number one So a lot of people in the United States of America, if you do 600 times 52 weeks, they are bringing home more money than they bought home from their fucking jobs.

Speaker 1 Dog, this is what I do. Yeah, I don't, I don't, you have to fact check.
I don't believe that. That's not my understanding.
You're wrong. What am I wrong about?

Speaker 1 No, I'm asking you.

Speaker 1 What am I saying that's wrong? The government was giving people an additional $600 a week on top of their employees. On top of their weekly income.
On top of their unemployment money.

Speaker 1 But unemployment isn't your full check. You're asking me a question.
You're asking me a question. Please let me speak.

Speaker 1 So if you make, do the median income in the United States, of course there's going to be outliers. Do the average because y'all want to talk about the masses so fucking much.

Speaker 1 So we're going to stay on the masses. But your whole whole principle is based on the outlier no i'm not no i'm not most

Speaker 1 outlier is the person that during the pandemic took the fucking bus down or whatever they was giving and now they was up and they was balling and it was doing better than ever i think that's the outlier

Speaker 1 income median income in the united states is thirty seven thousand five hundred so if you get six hundred dollars a week from the government for 52 weeks you are doing better than you was when you fucking worked Yo, why do y'all act like y'all don't understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 This is mad. 600 times 52 weeks is $31,200.
$31,200. No, and that's the additional no tax on top of the unemployment you were getting.
The average person

Speaker 1 isn't your income. Unemployment.

Speaker 1 Now y'all being willfully obtuse. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 Come on, just listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Listen to what I'm saying. You're saying that you get the unemployment and now you get this extra six.
I hear you. I'm not being obtuse.
I understand.

Speaker 1 The income you're saying they're getting is unemployment. Yes.
Unemployment is not your full income. Unemployment, is that not true? Is that accurate? Correct.
Can I provide you?

Speaker 1 Let me ask a question. What percentage of one's income?

Speaker 1 I know that. What percentage of your income is unemployment? I don't know.
Half. So if you don't know,

Speaker 1 it's more like

Speaker 1 it's a little bit more than half. It's more than half.
Let me just ask you a question.

Speaker 1 So what I'm saying is, so what I'm saying is, if I'm getting unemployment plus $600, I'm not getting $600 more than my normal income. Cool.
Can I ask you a question? That's basic math.

Speaker 1 Is that not true? No, you are fucking.

Speaker 1 Don't just keep screaming. I'm wrong.
It's coming out of the trend.

Speaker 1 He broke it down.

Speaker 1 Median income. We're doing because we're talking to masses.
I just said the median income in the United States is $37,585. That's the median income.
That's the median. Okay.

Speaker 1 The additional $600 alone equals $31,000 bringing home from your job. That's the additional, it's $31,200, no tax.

Speaker 1 If you, so you're talking about that's before you get unemployment added on to that money. It's going to be more.

Speaker 1 You're the right to win both. I'm not following.
You serious? Yes. All right, wait.
No, no, no. I'm telling you, I'm not following.
What are you saying?

Speaker 1 37,000 is what you made at work, which means your take-home pay is about 25K.

Speaker 1 Cool. Right.
Wait, there's several things you said that I don't agree. I don't accept the premise, is what I'm saying.
I'm rejecting the premise, but go ahead. 37,000, which premise are you rejecting?

Speaker 1 37? You don't, you don't write it? I'll tell you why I reject the premise.

Speaker 1 Continue. We talking masses.
So we did medium for the entire country. 37,000.

Speaker 1 That is the that you can

Speaker 1 looked it up on the phone. I'm not making it up.
So from before you even get an unemployment check, the government is giving you 31K.

Speaker 1 So let's say you got 60% of your 37,000 plus the 31K.

Speaker 1 You are making more money than you made when you are physically going to work. You are getting 60% or 70%, whatever unemployment is, of the 37K plus an additional $31,000.

Speaker 1 You are thereby making more money than when you are physically getting up at six or seven o'clock in the morning to go to work you are making more money now to sit at home

Speaker 1 that is a fact one and then they say

Speaker 1 you don't have to pay your rent which is people's biggest expenditure that they have

Speaker 1 so now you are up up because you're getting more money than you was making at work and your biggest bill that you have to shell out for you don't have to pay it legally

Speaker 1 You're doing if they told us all in here, we don't have to pay our rent tomorrow. Everybody's fucking up.
Now let's say, parks, whatever you make, you got an additional

Speaker 1 $2,500 a month, plus you ain't have to pay rent.

Speaker 1 What are we missing? Okay, so. Go ahead, keep going.
I'm listening. I'm just math.

Speaker 1 It ain't emotional, it's math.

Speaker 1 You're referring to the economic impact payments, right?

Speaker 1 Yes, that was the EIPs. That's the $600 additional.

Speaker 1 Which was on, again, and there's no taxes on it.

Speaker 1 But was it $600

Speaker 1 liquid or was I thought it was $600 in food or something? No, no. It was a $600 check per week in your additional $600 cash.

Speaker 1 That's $2,200 a month. I thought they said you had to pay back? No, you ain't have to pay right back.

Speaker 1 Now, I know that the supermarkets and food

Speaker 1 became higher at the time as well. Like, food was higher.
Stuff in the supermarket was higher. So, you know, I don't know.
I just remember that. Yeah.
I'm sorry,

Speaker 1 you made more money and and paid out less. I get what you say.
That's all it was.

Speaker 1 I got you. I don't want to get in the weeds of this.

Speaker 1 But again, I... What? What are you laughing? Am I missing something? No, I'm yo, fam.
It's okay for it just to be like, yo, that that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I never said what you said didn't make sense. Remember, I wasn't I began from the place of there's a blind spot.
And I think the blind spot is people like you don't get paid.

Speaker 1 That was never my issue. And most landlords, contrary to your popular belief, are mom-and-pop landlords.
Most landlords are not these big gazillionaire. Right, but

Speaker 1 the problem is not that. The problem is who gets evicted.
And the idea was to have a mass stoppage of it, right?

Speaker 1 Again, I'm not disputing the point you're making about this.

Speaker 1 I don't accept the median as a measure because

Speaker 1 the people who are catching the most hell aren't at the median. They're below the median.
So that's why I was saying, I hear you. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying.

Speaker 1 That was my problem with his terms. That makes my point.
Whatever number he started at, them niggas

Speaker 1 was struggling to pay his rent in the first place. That makes my point even more valid.
I don't think so. Listen to this.
Let me figure it out. Here's your out.

Speaker 1 I'm also not sure that a higher percentage of people didn't. If you were below the median, that means you're doing way better than you were doing before.

Speaker 1 Because if the median is 37 and the government is giving you 31 off the rip. I don't think that's the landlord's place to say in a time of a fucking crisis.
It's not.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's time for you to sit home as a landlord probably to pull out your calculator when it's a crisis.

Speaker 1 Niggas crazy. It's a crisis for everybody, Joe.
And again, the landlords are people. What are you talking about? Most homeowners in the country are people, too.
What the fuck is you talking about?

Speaker 1 Again, so everybody's going through a crisis. And again, if the government subsidized one person crisis and turned a blind eye to the other motherfuckers, that's not fair.

Speaker 1 The other people that they gave subsidies to are doing better than they were doing when they was at work. That's the point I'm making.

Speaker 1 Landlords didn't receive any give backs, perks, or anything during that time. They could have.

Speaker 1 That's my question to you.

Speaker 1 That's my question to you as a landlord.

Speaker 1 That's my question to you yo let we fucking the pot up bro let's just move i don't think so i would like an answer to my question no not really to answer your question so what they did they got their debt um not forgiven like if you are in a foreclosure status so let's say you owe fifty thousand dollars penalties fees all of this shit and back mortgages right so it's not just the mortgage that you let's say your mortgage is two two grand a month So it's $24,000 a year.

Speaker 1 By the time you get to $24,000 a year and they add on penalties, interest, and all that other shit, you could legitimately be at $45K that you owe out with attorney fees, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 So what they did was take that $50,000 and threw it on the back of your mortgage. So you still had to pay it.
You just weren't in arrears no more with regards to a foreclosure

Speaker 1 threat. That's what happened.
Not you had to pay back the fucking

Speaker 1 loans they gave out, but that rent had to be paid back. You're wrong.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right. What you're saying had to be paid back.
What? The mortgages had to be paid.

Speaker 1 Some had to be paid. The landlords had to pay back.
They made me call my account. Yeah, they're going to be able to do it.
Like at the end of the year, all the money.

Speaker 1 The landlords had to pay their mortgage money back. Yeah.
The rent didn't have to be paying back. That's what I'm telling you.
I know, I'm not talking out the side of my ass, my nigga. I'm a landlord.

Speaker 1 I need to say, again,

Speaker 1 I don't know enough about this to disagree with you.

Speaker 1 I'm not seeing the $600.

Speaker 1 Niggas took your money and went to Gucci, nigga.

Speaker 1 Niggas took your money and went to Louie. They rushed.
You to buy land and deprived me of fucking rental. I'm not crying at all because I overcame it.
What I'm telling you is the same people.

Speaker 1 And you look good doing it. No, this is not.
They ain't trying to pitch this story of struggle to me.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I'm struggling. I'm telling you, though, you're saying that the same people that got fucked.
Hold on, hold on, it's

Speaker 1 looking here. Get it.
I'm seeing.

Speaker 1 I'm still trying to.

Speaker 1 Everything I'm seeing says the economic impact payments weren't weekly, but they were one-time payments. That's what I thought, too.

Speaker 1 That's not true. They weren't getting $600 on a six-year-old.
Ice was getting the money. Ice was getting the money.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I was working, but my girl that I was with at the time, she she was getting that every week. Every two weeks

Speaker 1 with unemployment cuts. I'm telling you what to do, bro.
What was she getting? Tell me. $600.
She got unemployment plus $1,200 because she was getting paid bi-weekly. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Again, I can see the point because I'll do some research. And again, I don't want to say that.
I think these niggas were shopping with your shit. You're right.
I don't want to sound cynical.

Speaker 1 She was staying home making more money than me.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to ask y'all to send that to me.
I'm going to ask y'all to send it to this girl.

Speaker 1 Back to our original thing. Back to our original thing.

Speaker 1 That's why I said it's a humanity piece in this, but you're asking some of the same people, let's just say, hypothetically, that got fucked during COVID to now say that they have a humanistic bone in their body and they're not going to up the rents and take advantage of opportunity when the opportunity is available to them.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. You didn't give a fuck when the opportunity was on the other side.
So some people don't give a fuck now. I'm not saying I'm one of those people,

Speaker 1 but I'm telling you that some of these people might look at it as I'm taking advantage of an opportunity the same way people took advantage of an opportunity.

Speaker 1 And I was on the downside.

Speaker 1 I'll end with, I wouldn't do it. Neither would I.
But I wouldn't make more money than I'm making at work and I pay my landlord rent neither.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 So you're picking and choosing then.

Speaker 1 When morals matter. We're picking and choosing when we give a fuck about people.

Speaker 1 I think we should always. And I think if we find a blind spot or a contradiction, I think the answer is to fix, to resolve that contradiction, not to the government tell me I can change.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go ahead and pay rent. rent, guess who ain't paying rent? And I'm okay with that.
Again, I don't think people should have to pay rent.

Speaker 1 And if a nigga tell me y'all could charge $9,000 a month for some shit that was $3,000 a month, a nigga could say I'm a charge it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't see it. But can you off-air? Send me the thing that shows that that's $600 a week.
Because what you're saying, that makes a lot more sense to me.

Speaker 1 I would say you're right if people are making that much money. I just never saw any evidence of people making that much money.
You saw it. Your friend group ain't them niggas.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I mean, I looked up economic income.

Speaker 1 I looked up the policy, and it seemed like people were getting $600 three times.

Speaker 1 Not every week. No, that's the STEMI.
No, you went to the mall during that time? I didn't. You did? Short Hills Mall?

Speaker 1 Gucci line was down the block.

Speaker 1 I mean, people went to the mall with PPPs. No,

Speaker 1 we couldn't keep crab legs in the store, nigga.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen so many clashes azul bottles. Wait, but that's from the stimulus check, right? Everybody has the stimulus check, Mark.
No, so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You're saying every week people got $600. An additional $600

Speaker 1 per week. Okay.

Speaker 1 If it's true, I'm not saying you're wrong. I haven't seen that.
This has dragged on long enough.

Speaker 1 I am now to break the monotony going to play a song from some unknown white girl on TikTok.

Speaker 1 I like this trend.

Speaker 1 The girl broke up with a man, and she's not a musician, but she made a song.

Speaker 1 And I laughed at this motherfucker for nine hours straight. Wait a minute.
Oh, it's good.

Speaker 1 And everything's going amazing. Till he says, babe, I wanna move back to Texas

Speaker 1 to be closer to my dad.

Speaker 1 So you give up half of your career. Let's go.
This might be a hit.

Speaker 1 Take off months of work, deplete your savings. To pay for movers and drive to Texas.

Speaker 1 So worth it for the love of your wife that wants a future with you because he said so.

Speaker 1 So you spend a month waiting for your shit to arrive and get another month moving in and selling furniture and stuff. And we are just so happy.

Speaker 1 Just back from a family vacation.

Speaker 1 Sits on your couch, which just turned in the mail and hands you a note

Speaker 1 that says we have nothing in common. We're incompatible.

Speaker 1 Oh no.

Speaker 1 Just mad

Speaker 1 and I love no miss. This whole time's three

Speaker 1 What is wrong with you, yo?

Speaker 1 Yo, she getting her bars off too.

Speaker 1 That she was fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. No, they gotta save TikTok, man.
Niggas, age.

Speaker 1 Shit. It's fucked up.

Speaker 1 Why would he do that to that white girl?

Speaker 1 Why niggas don't know how to. We don't know how to break up.

Speaker 1 He sent a letter-ish.

Speaker 1 He sat down on a new couch, she said, that just arrived and wrote her a letter to say, We're not compatible. We have nothing in common.
God damn.

Speaker 1 After they've been together three and a half years and moved from California. They quit her job.
They gave him half her savings. They're cleaning her savings, all that shit.
Scammers is up. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 City Boy's up a thousand.

Speaker 1 City Boy's up a thousand.

Speaker 1 You didn't try to flirt with me with you.

Speaker 1 We just talked about that a scammer, man. He just got $850,000 pretending to be Brad Pitt in a relationship with a 60-year-old lady.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 she's suffering from depression. She's getting now don't laugh.
At 60 years old, you should know who Brad Pitt is. No, he was sending pictures.
He was sending pictures for the hospital bed.

Speaker 1 Some AI shit or something. This shit looked like.

Speaker 1 This story is. He don't even say cheese posted it.
Because we just surprised her and shit. How the fuck he got away with it?

Speaker 1 I need to come up with a come up like that. Wait, so she thought it was actually Brad Pitt? Yeah,

Speaker 1 he said he needed money. He said that he needed money for the surgery for cancer.
He also needed money to go

Speaker 1 to fight the lawyers, get the lawyers to fight

Speaker 1 to fight Angelina. Angelina Jolie.

Speaker 2 And the divorce? Nice.

Speaker 1 French woman scammed out of 80, 850K in fake Brad Pitt romance. God damn it.
53-year-old French woman was duped. 800, digger.

Speaker 1 Now she's going to the hospital for depression. Now she's trying to get a lawyer.
Salute. Salute.
Salute. Yo, that's the.
850? And yo, I'll be watching. And yo, let's see.
Let's do some pictures.

Speaker 1 Yo, pause.

Speaker 1 I went down a rabbit hole on YouTube and I watched people that scam the Indian scammers. You know, the scammers overseas that scam you.
They're scamming them back. And it's a whole operation.

Speaker 1 No, the Jamaicans got.

Speaker 1 Whoa. No, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 Let me finish my sentence. They don't have the video scamming the Jamaicans back.
They have propagating them, getting them back.

Speaker 1 Because they put money in your account. They put like 10,000 in your account so you could.

Speaker 1 Them niggas taking the 10 and keeping it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some crazy shit, sir. Go to YouTube and watch that shit, Mark.
I'm going to. You're going to be glued.

Speaker 1 Huge.

Speaker 1 Huge, bro. You're going to be glued.
Them niggas be calling calling you. Yeah, I got, you know, you got to put it on the green dot card.
Yeah. And I'm going to put it in.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Scammers, text me today. Hello, your resume has been recommended by multiple online recruitment companies.

Speaker 1 I ain't even know you.

Speaker 1 You was on the D, you was on the D. No, you couldn't link.
You got LinkedIn niggas? Well, that's how I know they're scamming because I ain't never had a resume.

Speaker 1 Therefore, our company offers you remote online job, which is great, remote, part-time, full-time online job to help yada, yada, yada update data, increase visibility and bookings, and provide free training.

Speaker 1 Now, I'm only reading this because I know at least three people that thought they got a new job. True.
They be getting it. Until they made a phone call or went into work.
Yo.

Speaker 1 No, we just need to verify your social. Yeah, right.
Get you on payroll. We got to get all your shit out of your shit.
No, they're going crazy. And send a picture of your license to do that.

Speaker 1 The working hours are 60 to 90 minutes, depending on your schedule, and you can earn $480 to $1,980 a day if you are willing. The basic salary is $800 for every five days of work.

Speaker 1 Five-day paid trial period, yada, yada, yada. They make that shit sound good.

Speaker 1 Too good. That's the point.

Speaker 1 We just need to finalize this paperwork. We're going to send this over to you.
We need a copy of your license. Your social.
You're going to put the social on the application. Oh, true.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Date of birth on the application. You got to send a picture of that license.

Speaker 1 Got it. Hell no.

Speaker 1 Yo. Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 I had to pack up, drive to the bottom.

Speaker 1 If we weren't recording, I would have played that song three more times.

Speaker 1 But we're working. So,

Speaker 1 oh my Lord, why he did that, though.

Speaker 1 That song was hit. I need to hear it again.
I'm going to go listen to that. I played it later.
That song is going to happen. Yo, she had to add a little more ramen to it.

Speaker 1 That shit could have been a smash. I ain't going to hold you.
She was too busy getting no bars off, man.

Speaker 1 He took a family vacation.

Speaker 1 Yo. Niggas, families, yo.

Speaker 1 Yes. They'll tell you to end that shit.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What else?

Speaker 1 Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 1 Which part of Jimmy Butler pause?

Speaker 1 The child support part

Speaker 1 or him versus Pat Riley? Oh, I was just talking about the child support. I'll talk about Pat Riley.
All right, the Pat Riley part I feel the way about too, but well, let's do the child support first.

Speaker 1 That's fun.

Speaker 1 We have

Speaker 1 child support experts,

Speaker 1 child support experts up in this piece. So, yeah.
What we got?

Speaker 1 But what happened? The girl is getting how much? So here's the story. She want an extra 10K, right? Right, because the news just reported she was asking for 55K, which was a little misleading.
Or 65K.

Speaker 1 She's making $55 already and was asking asking for a ten thousand dollar increase for three kids for three kids ages five four and one i think or five two and one five but they're all under five pay the woman that's my easy answer pay the woman pay the woman jimmy butler's argument is she

Speaker 1 or his lawyer's argument was she does not work and we were never married and we were never married but first the she does not work part is important because he's saying the 55 covers the kids the extra 10 is really for a lifestyle that she's trying to maintain without working.

Speaker 1 And then he says she's trying to live the life of an NBA wife by not working,

Speaker 1 which we never worked about. Should not be responsible for having to upkeep her quality of life, exactly.
That's that's the old, that's the argument.

Speaker 1 And this is where what county, where what many children hold up. So, currently, she's three

Speaker 1 all under five, yes, yeah, currently. Where is this at? Where is this case at? Uh, state, I'm not sure what state, I'm not sure what state.
Somebody Google it real quick.

Speaker 1 It might be Texas, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 What I'm gonna say is

Speaker 1 $660,000,

Speaker 1 that's no tax. Because you don't pay tax on child support.

Speaker 1 That's the equivalent to like one point,

Speaker 1 let's say a million-dollar job, right? So I just think that if you make a million dollars a year from your job, you could take care of three kids.

Speaker 1 That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 Pay the woman. Because again, child support is supposed to be dual.
I think it's L.A. It's supposed to be dual.
So if she don't work, there are some judges that will make her go work.

Speaker 1 Some judges will be like, ma'am, you have to get a job. If you want more money, you need to work.

Speaker 1 I'm struggling with it because

Speaker 1 the pay-to-woman is the easy part. First of all, if I had a $40,050 million contract, he's about to get an extension.
I probably wouldn't be spending my time haggling over $10,000 a month.

Speaker 1 I think it's a principle thing more than a money thing. It absolutely is a principle thing.
You got a one-year-old with this person, so you just got out of something to this. So this also feels like

Speaker 1 emotional. Yeah.
Sour grapes. Yeah, it's a whole lot of shit happening.

Speaker 1 You don't have a one-year-old with somebody, and then you get to this stage unless a whole lot of shit is happening in the middle. To me, the argument that you're not a wife is a bad argument.

Speaker 1 It's a better argument when you got one with somebody. When you got three kids, one of whom is like 12 months old, you're not my wife.
You shot up in that thing three times.

Speaker 1 Like, to me, at this point, like, the wife, not wife, that's legal. To me, the bigger point is like, just,

Speaker 1 y'all are co-parenting. Y'all have a relationship.
Let her have this life.

Speaker 1 Whether you, because you can afford it. And she's asking for that.
That's why I keep saying pay the woman. Yeah.
I'm with you. I can't find that.
Where is that? I couldn't find it either.

Speaker 1 You put three up in there knowing that she didn't work. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. And just put one up in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was recently yesterday. This ain't no.
Yes. It's an extra 10 grand.
Or there's an option. There's the other side of that.
Which is. Move to New Jersey or Texas.
No.

Speaker 1 And we don't go through this in Jersey and Texas now. Get your kids.

Speaker 1 Try to get your kiddies.

Speaker 1 See, niggas never want to do that part. That's the ice round.
We ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 Niggas never want, that's hot. Oh, no, no.
Why were you assuming out here?

Speaker 1 Why would you change the lifestyle?

Speaker 1 Well, I don't want to speak for Jimmy's. I don't know.
I know when I looked at his new home in Architectural Digest, he had a new room for a young kid.

Speaker 1 So he clearly wants to do some caretaking, but he may not want to have three kids full-time.

Speaker 1 And what I suspect, though, is if he did in his life, he probably ended up spending just as much to take care of the three kids and to have nannies and support and travel as he would paying the mom.

Speaker 1 $55,000, don't you think? Yeah. As Jimmy Butler, yeah.
Not as us, but as Jimmy Butler. As men, we always look at it wrong.

Speaker 1 If you have it and you could afford your kids to live a certain lifestyle, then

Speaker 1 I assume that you wouldn't want to. Right.
Jimmy's saying, I'm paying for their lifestyle. I'm not going to pay for yours.
But $10,000 extra. It's not mine.

Speaker 2 Not necessarily a fucking.

Speaker 1 If I'm paying you $55,000, I'm paying for your lifestyle too.

Speaker 1 A month? That's $600.

Speaker 1 It depends on what that $55 includes. For example,

Speaker 1 if you pay for private school, daycare, that shit ain't, I mean, that'd eat up all that. I don't know.
He might be paying that on on top of it. I don't know the situation.

Speaker 1 I don't know. What? Is that crazy?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying it. Three kids? It ain't like she's asking for $110,000.

Speaker 1 I'm sure.

Speaker 1 She's asking for $10 extra. If you're paying $55,000 already.
Yeah. And $20,000 a kid in L.A., a little bit more than $20,000 a kid in L.A.

Speaker 1 It sounds like I'm not familiar with L.A., but it sounds like it's part of course of what they do out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that doesn't sound crazy to me. That doesn't sound crazy to me.

Speaker 1 I say just pay her. $10,000 a month to me extra isn't that big a deal.

Speaker 1 And I think a woman who has three of your children should have the same lifestyle. Hold up for a minute, Mark, because our math guy,

Speaker 1 we're doing all of this math right now. $660,000 a year.
I'm bad at math, honestly, too. So we have to use the calculator.
Math man, like, what do you think?

Speaker 1 What do I think about what?

Speaker 1 What do I think about what? Which piece?

Speaker 1 The increase to ask what should or should not happen.

Speaker 1 I mean, based on the information that we have, I think it's emotional.

Speaker 1 I think that if you...

Speaker 1 If you and Jimmy Butler, you fight it. I fight it.
Got it. I fight it again, not based on the money.
I fight it based on the principle. So I don't know the other things.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I don't know the underlying things. Again, let's say hypothetically Jimmy Butler is paying a nanny or paying for schooling or paying for these other things in addition to the 55K.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what happens a lot of times. So now I'm paying for all of these things and you just getting $55,000 to

Speaker 1 live with. It's fly.
It ain't that many Chanel bags in the world. It is.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? And again, it's child support, not ex-girlfriend support.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's where they lose me. Yeah, me too.
And I get your point, but there's a distinction.

Speaker 1 How the child lived is how the ex-girlfriend lives. That's what I'm saying.
That's not true. How not so? Because it's a lot of parents that their children.
Oh, it don't have to be true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're saying it should be.

Speaker 1 We're saying it should be like for example if i got three kids by you i want my kid to live in a building or keep talking about the kid joe said yo how the kids live the mind i know hear me out

Speaker 1 let me finish the thought you get what i'm saying what i'm saying is if i have three kids i want my kids to live in a certain kind of house in a certain kind of neighborhood keep going as their mom i want you to have that kind of lifestyle too You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I want you to have that.

Speaker 1 If the kids are able to afford this kind of meal, right? I want you to be able to eat that same meal.

Speaker 1 I don't want them three going to the restaurant necessities are necessities right and i'm saying at that lifestyle this you know i think that at that lifestyle whatever my kids have like i think you should have a quality dope car to get my kids back and forth wherever they need to go i think that you should have four that's a good car

Speaker 1 i vote that you should like yo again if you need if you need a range rover go get a range rover if you need this go get this if you want quality food get quality food we talking about a million dollar salary people right and so that extra hundred it's a lot of us that are surviving and we don't make a million dollars and eat we eat very well and we drive decent cars and we live in decent homes but if you had so it's a it's a middle area i hate when we get into these situations where we look at it like it's feast or famine it's not feast or famine you're making fifty five thousand dollars a year and you don't work a month a month pardon me and you don't work but he's making 55 million and i'm saying that that's and and that's the problem i mean it might be but i i think how much i make should match child support is based off of what you make not when you make a certain amount of money

Speaker 1 They cut the calculations out when you make a certain amount of bread. Oh, well, when I was dealing, I didn't make a certain amount.
There you go. Yeah.
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, I'm talking about the shoot. Thank God I didn't break that.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 You're the one that got that 17%

Speaker 1 down there and tore your fucking head off. I got to shout out my baby moms.
Both of them. I do.

Speaker 1 I do. You're the one there.
That was peace. That's 17% shit.
Now they're fucking what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that was peace to them.

Speaker 1 But they wouldn't do that to you. That's good looking out.
They wouldn't do that to you. Mel, what do you think as a woman?

Speaker 1 I'm not here.

Speaker 1 Well, she ain't said a word, Mel, two hours.

Speaker 1 That's a lie.

Speaker 1 Like when she gets stuck.

Speaker 1 You can tell her mom be elsewhere that you catch her. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Don't do that.
I'm present here, and I'm watching it.

Speaker 1 You know, they want to get off her dick.

Speaker 1 They want to pick on Flip. Answer the question then.
Quick, go.

Speaker 2 I agree with the fact that she has three kids you got her used to a certain lifestyle you want your kids raised in that lifestyle I don't see a problem with it he makes an exorbitant amount of money I just don't see the it's at that point another 10 grand that's nickel and diming to him you know what I mean and I think that it's just for the sake of being emotional or whatever the case is

Speaker 2 I think it's a luxury to be a stay-at-home mom these days,

Speaker 2 but I think it's beneficial to the children, honestly, to to have your mom.

Speaker 1 But do you think you should have to work?

Speaker 1 And what if you're paying for like a nanny or something?

Speaker 2 That I don't know. What if she's dirty?

Speaker 1 What if she's dirty?

Speaker 2 Because she's dirty? What does that mean? What if she's dirty?

Speaker 1 I don't even. Translation, what does that mean? I didn't follow that, but

Speaker 1 she don't need an extra 10. I think, no, I just think

Speaker 1 we've fallen

Speaker 1 deaf on what $55,000 is every single month. Like I just think we forget in what that is and what that means.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? Like we looking like yo, when you make 55K that you're not short on anything, yo. Like what do like yo dog.
I'm not convinced of that though. Not at that lifestyle.

Speaker 1 With normal people, yes, but I'm saying if you have a lifestyle where Mark, do the mortgage.

Speaker 1 What's the mortgage? The mortgage might be 30, 40,000 a month. Oh, not mortgage rent.
I don't know that I don't know their life.

Speaker 2 There's so many variables that we don't know.

Speaker 1 Especially if they just got out of a relationship i'm i mean again so that's what i'm saying they could be in the house that they lived in i'm sure that if there's a mortgage it's it's in the hot mid

Speaker 1 50k a month right but i'm i'm sure because she don't work that house is in his name right because she's not qualifying for a mortgage unemployment for sure so That's an expense and a liability that he incurs.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about when we break down $55,000 a month, we are sitting up here acting like a lifestyle cannot be maintained with $55,000. It depends on what you got to do with that $55,000.

Speaker 1 If you got to pay for school out of the $55,000, that's more than half of it. And that's true.
No, it's not true. Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 Three kids?

Speaker 2 Do you think that Jimmy Butler's kids are going to fucking private school? No, they're going to Montessori. They're going to some private school.

Speaker 1 Do you know how much a Montessori school costs a month?

Speaker 2 No, I personally do not, but if we're talking about LA, it's probably really fucking expensive.

Speaker 1 It is easy for

Speaker 1 an exclusive school to be between $1,500 and $100 a year. Would you agree with that? $50 grand.
$50,000. Right.
There's three of them.

Speaker 1 One is 12 months. He's not in a $50,000 a month school.

Speaker 1 I mean, $50,000 a year school. He's 12 months old, bro.
It might be daycare then.

Speaker 1 But it's the same principle. She don't work.
What daycare? See, okay, so that's. You don't work.

Speaker 1 So that's where it gets even more interesting, right? There's a question then we have to have about what domestic labor looks like and what the value of it is.

Speaker 1 You think that's what's funny about that? I don't think that's good.

Speaker 1 Why is that funny?

Speaker 1 It's not funny to me.

Speaker 1 I mean, I really don't miss the job.

Speaker 1 I'm saying

Speaker 1 domestic labor is labor, right? So what I'm saying is if mom is at home all day, I mean, y'all laughing, but just hear what I'm saying. If mom is at home all day, staying home all day.

Speaker 1 Okay, so she wants a nanny, and she wants a nanny, and he's saying that you don't work, so you don't need a nanny. This is his.
And she wants to use the money to put it.

Speaker 1 Butler states that circumstances have changed in the time sharing agreement and that there's no need for a nanny. Who's Butler? Butler, yeah, especially if mommy's going to school later

Speaker 1 yeah and uh brian uh brianne being enrolled in preschool or child care so she wants a nanny he's saying that you home you're not seeking employment so you don't need a nanny and this is what i'm saying this is why i'm saying we gotta agree and this is why i'm saying we need to count them think about domestic labor a little bit differently okay if she worked a job and worked eight hours a day would she be entitled to a nanny then yes because she'll be able to pay with her salary no no but i'm saying that forget about salary for a minute the idea is if you don't work you don't need a nanny i agree with that and i'm challenging that argument and saying, if I worked eight hours a day,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't have a problem with me having childcare for other hours in the day, right?

Speaker 1 If I'm at home with the kids for those eight hours,

Speaker 1 does that mean I'm 20, is that not enough? Should I be working 24 hours a day when the kids?

Speaker 1 Big mama took care of 15 motherfucking kids while pops went to work, nigga. And I'm saying that might have been a problem.
Big mama wanted help. Big mama couldn't get it.
Well, maybe, but we not,

Speaker 1 she made it look good, mom. And Big Mama was fucking and sucking on Mr.
Johnson from around the corner, not Jimmy Butby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Big Mama, you know that. Big Mama was fucking and sucking on the broke mechanic down the street at fucking Piggly Wiggly.
No, man.

Speaker 1 We talking about bitches that put the work in, went and fucked and sucked on a rich nigga for a reason. And got it.
Got you, but still, she knows.

Speaker 1 And I do, and I agree with Mark on the fact that just because you're a stay-at-home mom don't mean that you don't want and deserve an end.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Because I don't agree with that.
Stay-at-home moms don't feel like

Speaker 1 picking up three kids, picking up your money. Taking care of your kids.
That's what I'm saying. Domestic labor is still labor.
I'm saying you're still doing work. New mothers are lazy.

Speaker 1 But that's not 24 hours a day. New mothers are lazy, bro.
That's laziness. Take care of your fucking kid.
You get $55,000 a month, nigga. Go get your sister.
No, let me say it.

Speaker 1 Get your sister, move that bitch in the crib. Screw my language.
Get your sister to move in the house with you.

Speaker 1 Get somebody from somewhere and move them in the house with you so they can help you take care of the kids. I don't stand on the flip side in that.
I stand on it by myself.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is, $55,000 a month is enough to pay the nanny.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 three small kids is no small feat by any means. That shit is hard.
One small kid is hard for two parents in the same house. That shit is a monster.

Speaker 1 Three kids, one parent is a, she can't think. That's what I'm saying.
She could barely think.

Speaker 1 Right? So I'm not, I'm not, trust me. She could barely think.
You're right. That's what I meant about the value of domestic life.
You can't go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 You can't take a shower. You can't take a shit.
You can't do any of these things. You got three small kids.
So a nanny is definitely deserving of this lady, if not two.

Speaker 1 That's all I was saying. What I'm also saying, though, is $55K a month is enough to get that done.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Again, I don't know their lifestyle.
I don't know what they're spending. But if we came to an agreement of $55,000

Speaker 1 based on the lifestyle we have, and now I'm adding a nanny to the mix.

Speaker 1 $10,000 a month for a nanny is that crazy. Is this based off a lifestyle? Or it might be $20,000 for a nanny.
I don't know which nanny costs.

Speaker 1 Ish, are you a mark basing this only purely off, solely off a lifestyle? Because I know niggas that had three young kids and take care of their children. And make less than a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Like, way less. What are we talking about? Are we talking about the new times? Are we talking about keeping up with the Joneses? Like, what are we? Like, people take care of young kids.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you. Stay-at-home mom take care of young kids without help all the time.
Let me ask you. Why are we normalizing that? No.
It's your children.

Speaker 1 It's your children, too. It's men and children too.
I'm not talking about you personally. I'm paying the dude.
I'm saying you saying that. And this is a fact.

Speaker 1 My nigga, when we break up, your lifestyle is going to change. We was boyfriend and girlfriend.
When we break up, your lifestyle is going to change. And I'm saying it shouldn't.
My kids shouldn't.

Speaker 1 Yo, bro, what do we? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Let me be clear about what I mean. Because I agree with you in part, and I disagree on the other part.
I'm not saying I got to still send you Chanel bags. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 The girlfriend's lifestyle should be the same. It's what we are saying.

Speaker 1 We not together no more. You can't get the Roly no more.
You being the mother of my children don't entitle you to a fucking Roly or to some short Chanel bags or some other shit.

Speaker 1 My objective and my obligation is to make sure that my kids have an optimum style of living. And we all know that with 55 grand, you can do that.
And it's almost impossible.

Speaker 1 You know what else you can do it with?

Speaker 1 65 grand. You can really do it with 65 grand.
You know what, though? Next year, 75 sound better.

Speaker 1 And the year after that, 85 sound better. And that's where Ish I'm saying

Speaker 1 the agreement with me for the extra 10 makes sense in this case because there's a concrete ask attached to it. I don't think you should get it just because you want it.

Speaker 1 I don't think the sky's the limit. But Jimmy said their parenting time has shifted and all that other shit, which means that's why he's standing against it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which means he might be taking the kids more and you not having the kids as much as you used to because that's what matters.

Speaker 1 That matters.

Speaker 1 All of that matters, right?

Speaker 1 There's an arrangement where it wouldn't make any sense. I'm speaking in general terms because we don't know the specifics of this situation.

Speaker 1 I'm saying $55,000 in general is enough to keep a great lifestyle in general. Somebody close this out.

Speaker 1 But if you make $60 million, I'm saying with the money they make, their lifestyle shit and their monthly expenses are so high that it wouldn't shock me that $55,000 a month isn't stretching to meet that lifestyle as it would to meet most rich people.

Speaker 1 In closing, Mark, what Jimmy Butler is asking is for he's entitled to an accounting of the mother's use of funds. I think that's 100%.
That's what he says.

Speaker 1 So he's he said, which, you know, the amount that he's paying exceeds the maximum that these children possibly could need. And now he wants to see

Speaker 1 where that money goes to.

Speaker 1 Now, if the money is going,

Speaker 1 if the money's going to restaurants and bags and shit, then I agree.

Speaker 1 That's not what it's for. So you agreed that he has a right to see where the money is allocated? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I don't think she should be living lifestyles of the rich and famous off the money.

Speaker 1 I'm saying personally, her personally, I'm saying the kid off collectively, they should be living the same lifestyle. I'm saying she should.

Speaker 1 So if you do a forensic accounting and you turn out that of that 55, 40 of it is going to her wardrobe. Yeah, that's fucked up.
That's that's not right.

Speaker 1 But if I look at it and it's going to daycare, it's going to food, it's going to the nanny, it's going to tennis lessons, it's going to the nice club.

Speaker 1 Then I'm saying, then I'm saying, yeah, give it the other 10 and let it. I'm not disagreeing with that, but that's not what y'all said.
We got it. We can move on.

Speaker 1 Whose side are you guys on in Jimmy Butler versus Pat Riley? I don't know the full extent of it, so you got to bring me. I always lean toward the white man with this.

Speaker 1 It's a safe bet in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley is saying

Speaker 1 your best years are behind you.

Speaker 1 And we're not paying you top dollar or premium dollar for none of this shit you're talking about. You're 36 years old.
It's over. We're not giving you the extension.

Speaker 1 We're not giving you none of that shit. He wants a two-year, $60 million extension.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Butler is saying, I'm him. I took the team to the finals.
Twice.

Speaker 1 Was it Twins? Yeah. You didn't want to pay attention because y'all weren't in the playoffs, but yet.

Speaker 1 Now's not the time for low blows.

Speaker 1 Always the time. Twice and pause that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jimmy Butler's saying, I took you to the finals twice. I am who I am.
You built a team around me and pay me.

Speaker 1 Whose side are you on, Joe? Pat. He's definitely on Pat.
You're on Pat's side? Yeah. Got it.

Speaker 1 Is it what have you done for me lately? Yeah, you paid for what you will do,

Speaker 1 not what you have done. You got it.
You paid off your projection. You paid off your potential.
You paid off all of those things. The second that that goes away, I'm not paying you no more.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck how great of a day you had last week if you still performing and and the projection is you can still perform the year we can pay you that did Jordan get Dragon Universal with one exception Dragon Universal did Jordan get top dollar when he went to the wizards Jordan never got top dollar

Speaker 1 that's not true he got top dollar for those three years where they gave him 30 million dollars a year it still wasn't top dollar it's not top dollar it was you know what i'm saying it was so top dollar that it took another almost 15 years for for anyone else to match that salary even when he absolutely got top dollar those last three years the problem was it was payback for all the years where he wasn't getting top dollar and it wasn't top dollar but it didn't take top dollars.

Speaker 1 Y'all still making a shit ton of money off me packing out of the stadium every single night.

Speaker 1 So, if y'all to let me walk up, the thing with the Jimmy Butler thing is, yo, we can let you leave or we can trade you, and we could potentially get back what you are bringing.

Speaker 1 Right now, the Miami Heat are not favored to go anywhere with regards to the Eastern Conference. So, now us keeping you at top dollar is not necessarily a good business move for us.

Speaker 1 We can go get some pieces and get back some young dudes that we could possibly build around with the current talent that we already have. And sign Aura.

Speaker 1 If the market warrants you to get $30 million, somebody will give it to you. Here's my issue.
And by the way, fact check.

Speaker 1 Jordan got the contract in 96, 97 to 30 million. And it took until Steph Curry, until 2017, 2018 to match that.
So it took exactly 20 years for somebody to beat Michael Jordan's.

Speaker 1 uh sal annual salary like i said but the the the bigger the bigger point to me is sometimes they give you a contract on a promise.

Speaker 1 Like, remember when Kobe was washed and they still gave him big money at the end? When the Bulls gave Michael Jordan money at the end, it was this is a thank you.

Speaker 1 And we have an institutional agreement to that. So

Speaker 1 I see. And if that's the deal, fine.
But I don't think Pat Riley moves like that. I was saying, we ain't got that.

Speaker 1 If we ain't got that understanding, if y'all had that understanding, we wouldn't be having this conversation. No, no, sometimes you do because sometimes the owners renegade.

Speaker 1 They reneged. That's all I'm saying.
And so Pat Riley has just had such a bad track record lately with

Speaker 1 Wade, with LeBron, with

Speaker 1 less Kyle Lowry, but there have been multiple stars who have said Pat Riley ain't shit or Pat Really a shit on us on the way out. So that weighs in one way.
Jimmy Butler's had a bad exit everywhere.

Speaker 1 The Bulls, the Timberwolves, the Sixers. Now, Jimmy ain't always wrong.

Speaker 1 It's like when you get two people that are assholes and you don't know which one to believe. And this is like the perfect marriage of people who don't know how to, who don't play well with others.
So

Speaker 1 I lean toward Pat Riley in this simply because Jimmy Butler doesn't deserve the money at this point. I'm not giving Jimmy Butler $50, $60 million a year.
But that's relative.

Speaker 1 Jimmy might think he deserves it. If you deserve it,

Speaker 1 then go out into the market and get it. If others,

Speaker 1 and the market is easy. Right.
You get what I'm saying? Like, the market is easy. If you're looking for a job in most arenas, fam, I mean, not arenas.
I mean, just in most forums. Don't dump it.

Speaker 1 Somebody will give it to you. If I'm an accountant and I think my skills are X and I I think my experience warrants this, then I'm going to test the market.
But this is where maturity comes in.

Speaker 1 This is where maturity comes in. Because when Jimmy doesn't get the number, just like in Minnesota, instead of waiting until June and going on the market, he's like, fuck it, I want to go now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just like I fucking thought, because you niggas with all that Googling shit while I'm in the middle of podding and can't do it my damn self. Michael Jordan got $30 million for two years.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 We're saying the same thing. I said.

Speaker 1 You said three. He said three.
Okay, three. The point is,

Speaker 1 he didn't get it. No, they tried to piece him up at the end of of the day.
That's what I said. Yeah, but when you said three, it made me think, oh, he got 20 for a little longer than...

Speaker 1 No, no, the disagreement was, I said it took 20 years for someone, it was so much bigger than everybody else. This is because the argument, because you said he...
It wasn't top dollar.

Speaker 1 It wasn't top dollar. It was not only was it top dollar, it was top dollar so long.
It took 20 years for someone to match it. And you said it didn't take 20 years.
And it did take 20 years.

Speaker 1 And you're also talking about for annual salaries to become a lot larger than... So am I.
It took 20 years for somebody to match his annual salary. That's my point.

Speaker 1 You keep saying that based off the two years. If I got 90 years out out of you for fucking dirt and won six chips and I piece you up off the back for two, it's not annual to me.

Speaker 1 You got two years worth of salary. And that's exactly what I said too.
I said he got shitted on for so many years that even the big checks they gave him were just makeup for before.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about how long it took for somebody to actually make that annually and by its true definition.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the Kevin Garnetts and the people that broke the mold of what Kay looks like. Yeah, in the NBA.
And that didn't take 20 years. That's what I'm saying.
Derek Coleman.

Speaker 1 You're talking about overall contracts. Yes.

Speaker 1 I wasn't talking about that. Okay.
I wasn't talking about that.

Speaker 1 My point was, they gave him a bloated salary at the end to try to help him, but Michael Jordan never really got paid what he was supposed to.

Speaker 1 So would Jimmy Butler, would he receive the money somewhere else? He could. It's possible.
Somebody give it to him.

Speaker 1 But the problem is, Jimmy Butler's not good enough to determine whether you win a championship or not unless you're so close to one.

Speaker 1 And if you're that close to one, you don't have $50 million to pay one guy. You're the last one to know that you're not like that no more.
Exactly. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 That's the easiest way to put it. You're the last one to know.
Because the Warriors were interested in bringing Jimmy Butler over there.

Speaker 1 And And then Pat Riley was like, I need Wiggins, Kaminga, three, four first-round picks. They was like, wait a minute, we're talking about Jimmy Butler, right? Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 No, now you're trying to be a dick, though.

Speaker 1 No, you want a haul of a return for somebody who is...

Speaker 1 deemed a premier perimeter player. But if you deem him a premier perimeter player that you don't want to pay, now you asking for...
You're 36 years old. Everybody in LeBron.
I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 So Jimmy, he said Pat Riley's being difficult, asking for more than he deserves to punish Jimmy. No, he's not going to pay for it.

Speaker 1 You can't look at it like, yo, you're not good enough to give you this bread, but then when I go to trade you, I'm asking for the whole fucking truck, this kitchen sink, and the motherfucking mattress.

Speaker 1 You don't mean somebody's going to be an idiot or desperate. That's what's going to happen.
So Jimmy Butler is good, but not that good. No, he's great.
He's great.

Speaker 1 But he's on the downcline of his career. He's on the downside of his career.
Got it. Okay, I'm just saying.
It's what Universal is saying to Drake. Thank you for what you've done.

Speaker 1 We view you as on the downside. Drake's like, I'm Drake still, nigga.
Pay me. It's the same shit.
It's the exact same shit.

Speaker 1 And the problem is, the team, like, I don't, I can only think of three teams where Jimmy Butler will be a difference maker and when you win a championship or not. And none of those teams

Speaker 1 have the budget to pay him. And the teams that we think might do that actually aren't that good.
Like the Lakers, I don't know if he'd be a difference maker, but they don't got the resources or

Speaker 1 the roster. And if you saying he tried to get that from Golden State, he gonna tell the Lakers to get him the whole fucking staples.
Exactly. Exactly.
I know they asked for a bunch from the Lakers.

Speaker 1 I want Reeves, Connect, Rui, motherfucking three picks, some money. He'd be great on the Knicks.
He'd be great on the Knicks, but again, y'all smart enough to not give up so much for him.

Speaker 1 You do a lot of talking about the Knicks. I don't know if he'd be great on the Knicks.
Don't talk to me about the Knicks.

Speaker 1 Look, your team just had to have a secret meeting with fucking Adam Silver, Bud Sea League, and everybody. Bud See League.

Speaker 1 Dead ass Bud See League.

Speaker 1 Hey, can we keep the Sixers here? Yo. Please, can we keep the Sixers? Yo, please.

Speaker 1 I was showing you love. I was showing the Knicks love.
Don't show the kids.

Speaker 1 The Knicks, look. Y'all look good, though.
That's actually, he would be good at the Knicks. He'd be great for the Knicks.
He'd be perfect for the Knicks.

Speaker 1 And he played with Tibbs before, but now, did him and Sixers. He'd be great on the Sixers, too.

Speaker 1 He'd be perfect on the Sixers. So he would be perfect.

Speaker 1 You know what? Fuck y'all, man.

Speaker 1 If I say anything Philly related, y'all just shut down, man. Even if it makes sense.

Speaker 1 The hate is real. In Philly related news, in Philly related news, Philly related news, Beanie Siegel is using AI for his voice restoration.

Speaker 1 If you remember, Beanie Siegel had that problem with his voice. He started rapping.
It sounded a little different. I think he got shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and now

Speaker 1 he previewed a clip of him rapping and what AI did to help his voice sound like it used to sound.

Speaker 1 I can't lie, it sounds absolutely amazing. I love it.
They said that. Absolutely fire.
Do we have that clip? Anybody have a clip? I can find it.

Speaker 1 You find it. The clip sounds great.
I'm really happy for Beans.

Speaker 1 It was fucked up to say when his voice was going through that, but that was a big part. Your voice is a big part of who you are as a rapper.

Speaker 1 And when it changed, even though you're a great MC.

Speaker 1 it takes away some of the delivery. It's tough, delivery, man.
It's tough, but this shit right here, my guy.

Speaker 1 No shorts, five for twenty can be perched. Rap dance, stay them, flip phones, stay ringing.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's

Speaker 1 it. I love it.
Can't wait to hear more. I usually hate AI.
I'm down with that. This is the perfect use of AI.
That's great.

Speaker 1 They said that Whatchamacaller McCalla was exploring doing the same thing. Who? DLC.

Speaker 1 Oh, that'd be great. That'd be great.

Speaker 1 I love all of that, man. We need more music from Mac.
I go and see him live when I can. And we did a party for him in Philly two years ago.
And it's like, when I hear him

Speaker 1 perform live, it's kind of a letdown

Speaker 1 because his voice isn't as strong. And so I get disappointed.
And shout out to Mac. He's still great.
He's still a legend to me.

Speaker 1 And one of the few people that watch his whole in just about every track they own.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I need to hear him like the old Beanie Siegel, the reason Beanie Siegel. This is a case where I would not be mad at him rapping over his vocal live.

Speaker 1 Like, if you just play with the vocal all the way up and add a little bit, I'm not even mad at that. That's all crazy.
I'm not even mad. That's all.

Speaker 1 That shit sounds good. That's good.
And that was no mix, no nothing.

Speaker 1 That's just life right there. And it's watch his whole and everything.
I said almost everything. I heard him.
I just got a good one. He's from Philly.

Speaker 1 Is that not factual? He's not factual. He's from Philly.

Speaker 1 Probably. Let's do it real quick.
Reservoir Dog. For three minutes.
Reservoir Reservoir Dogs. I do not think that Beans wash.

Speaker 1 Let me take a step back. I'll say he is as good or better.
Wash is a lot. He's as good or better than Trevor.
He's a lot.

Speaker 1 Now I'm with you. I'm with you.
On Reservoir Dogs, I'm a good guy. He is as good or better on Reservoir Dogs.
Gotcha. A wash, I don't, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think Beans had the best track, the best verse other than sauce on Reservoir Dogs. But that's

Speaker 1 what I'm talking about. I'll put you on a thing.
I'll put you. Oh, my man, Paul.
Somehow.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I also want to say

Speaker 1 not to grab my whole Venger cape. Oh boy.
A lot of those were Chris Paul alley oops from Hove for him to do that.

Speaker 1 Okay. What you talking about? You still did it.

Speaker 1 Still did it. He still got to do it, though.

Speaker 1 Even the whole story of Reservoir Dogs and Studio System.

Speaker 1 The opportunity you talking about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but where you're playing. Nobody knew who the fuck Beanie Siegel was when Reservoir Dog.

Speaker 1 You on the joint with the locks, with Sauce, heavy hitters in here. It's Hove's decision to put you where he put you for sure.
You still got to deliver, though, bro. You still got to deliver.

Speaker 1 You still got to deliver. You could be set up for the bunch of verses and you could be a rookie and deploy.

Speaker 1 But you're going to down, but you're going to deliver if the guy that signs you knows you have that capability and puts you in the position.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 1 let's not underplay it, too. He didn't deliver.
He windmilled fucking dunk that shit.

Speaker 1 Come on. EBC Sandwich down for the weekend, locked up with dirty whiteboards and reeking.

Speaker 1 Man, you could have given it to him. He's a little jump shit.

Speaker 1 That's it, you guys. How do you spell reservoir?

Speaker 1 Let's go, ball.

Speaker 1 He fucking knows. There's a difference between the sister and the sister.
No, it's like, yo, you drafted me. You ain't know I was going to do this when you're starting point guard got injured.
Right.

Speaker 1 But look, reservoir dog.

Speaker 1 I make it hot, flooding your block. The best way.
Professionally, don't find poison in your x-ray. It's eyes and front.

Speaker 1 So do I swear big move? My team, you would think was doing Thorzine. How we floored, so don't give a fuck, but it's your friend.

Speaker 1 Make niggas lie down, y'all know where to buy it now. Bean Mac, I supply it now.
My swab rolls deep, and farm cars is too cheap. Company of five or six, a few cheaps.

Speaker 1 Bag enough coke to last a few weeks. Case niggas wanna test me.
Mess in the peaks. You really wanna test my name? And test my game until you have me test my aim.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas nuts like test the fools Put you up in your apartment building best of you

Speaker 1 best for you to keep on walking Heat from the knocking, keep on sparking Platinum, Bezi, Bezzy, face barkling Cop off the lot, never see me at the auction Playing up a car and dark when he's falling out on the strip until I reach the margin Not trying to meet the sergeant at the precinct Eating cheese sandwiches down for the weekend Locked up with dirty whiteboards and pretty much All right, I'm glad I did that.

Speaker 1 He don't have the first or second verse in this best of it. You know.
You don't have the best. Now you're going to say kiss? Best or sexy? The best version of Styles.

Speaker 1 That wasn't the argument. It ain't even third or fourth to me.

Speaker 1 That wasn't the argument. But it's

Speaker 1 not to me. He did win million.
He went milled. He killed his opportunity.
And it's as good or better than Holes. I think it's actually better.

Speaker 1 Definitely not background.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 1 Now that I heard it again,

Speaker 1 Kisses versus Fire, but it's really about they both gangsters don't get die to get chubby, right? It's just that bar that's hot. Styles shit.
No, no, no. I'm talking in terms of the elite.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing this with you, too. Styles kills it.
I mean, they all kill it. Styles killed.

Speaker 1 Sauce had the best one to me. Sauce got the best one.

Speaker 1 But part of why Sauce and Beans is at the top is because they're the ones that people didn't expect to have the best verse. It's a surprise.

Speaker 1 It's a surprise to me.

Speaker 1 Sauce ain't at the top either? No. Oh, you wilding.
I can wild my memories. No, no, I meant in the song order-wise.
Oh, no. I didn't mean

Speaker 1 to. I'm only talking about who had the best verse.
Who had the best verses? To me, it's sauce money. I'm saying it's sauce and it's beans.

Speaker 1 I think it's sauce, sauce, kiss. Jade, them beans.
Sauce, kiss, hove. Yeah.
Them three.

Speaker 1 Any one of them to me. Those are the three for me.

Speaker 1 You get. I don't even think about Beans or Hove on any track that they've done that features Scarface.
I think Scarface is the only one you could say. Somehow, some way, Beans versus.

Speaker 1 I mean, again, these are all great verses on everybody. Somehow, some way I take Beans.
It's on

Speaker 1 State Property album and on. Oh, you're album.
Oh, you have. Oh, they're getting busy.
No, they're getting busy. I said, I think they match there.
Yeah, you keep up. Keep up or better.

Speaker 1 This is a keep up or better. Oh, okay.
You got it. By the time It's On came, Hove was hip to Beans' tricks and he rapped, rapped, rapped on his song.
But so did beans.

Speaker 1 I know, I mean, for a lot more time. Oh, oh, I see what you said.
For a lot more time. I'm not letting you do that again.
To me, Beans. Where have you been? Beans, that nigga's damn near crying.

Speaker 1 That one I'll give you. I mean, come on.
You got that. Yeah, sure.
That one I give you. Now, still got love for you after that.
Same thing. I'll give you that one, too.
You got that one?

Speaker 1 This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Beans?

Speaker 1 I think I proved my point. Don't talk bad about Hove when I'm here.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. I love Hove.
I know y'all Hove and I'm going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 I love Hove when I'm around.

Speaker 1 Would you say what? Two out of 17 songs.

Speaker 1 Now, as I walk in the studio,

Speaker 1 6 a.m. on the way to the club.
What about that joint? Do it again? Do it again. Thank you.
I couldn't think of it. No.
Not for me. No.
No way. Wait.
No. Yo, Matt, come do on some club shit we do.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 What we do is beans. What we do is beans all day.
What we do is beans. So they blow them horns like Cold Train.

Speaker 1 Don't make me play it. Because I may be able to play it.
Please play it beans. You might have to play that.
Please. Come on, y'all.
I'm stripping.

Speaker 1 What are we doing? You kidding me? Somehow this feels nostalgic. Nostalgic.
Man, y'all out y'all.

Speaker 1 Now I'm about to play this little slap from Freeway.

Speaker 1 I know who that is.

Speaker 1 Again, Hove had the best bar. Gotta kill witnesses because free beers sticking out.
But look at the whole.

Speaker 1 That's what got you. That's what Hove got.

Speaker 1 Let me get a free hope never slacking, man. Sippin' in the black ring, faster than the red ghost, getting ghost on Pac-Man.
One time, no, I got an act to get back chain.

Speaker 1 Be a little black gang, R-O-C-M. Gang like T-Mac, ski-man, star it out.
Gotta kill witnesses, the free fans sticking out. Y'all don't wanna witness shit, three squeeze hammers, man.

Speaker 1 Pull the three by you, like we together, man.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's certainly gotta get your soul aflame.

Speaker 1 Before they blow them horns, I coke drink.

Speaker 1 Still, I cry tears of a a hustler, wipe tears from my mother, pull out bears from my brothers.

Speaker 1 You are really fucking. I'm about to say, you don't even got play-by-side.

Speaker 1 You skip Beans whole verse. You don't have to play them for you,

Speaker 1 you skip Beans' whole verse and play with me. Beans, we're really glad that you got your voice back.
And love you. And love you.
You all niggas. You have y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 She definitely still got love for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She definitely got that.

Speaker 1 And where have you been?

Speaker 1 And where have you been? Have you been for sure? Factually. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 But Beans kept up with Hove the most. He did.
He did. That's what I said.
And Every track. You just said it different than me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Beans.

Speaker 1 I don't heard y'all. Y'all still love him.
The point is, and I love Hove too. Beans keeps up with him better than, in fact, better than anybody, I would say, who has that kind of volume with him.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nas keeps up too, but you know what I'm saying? They don't got as much volume.

Speaker 1 They got what, four? Four tracks, maybe?

Speaker 1 The ludicrous joint, the the

Speaker 1 on the N-word album. Not Kiss Keep Up.
Kylie. X.

Speaker 1 How many songs? How fast kiss on with Hove, though?

Speaker 1 Damn. That's what I'm talking about with volume.
It's like, ain't that many people got volume? It's not. It's not that many.
Yeah. And I mean, maybe Yay, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yay, keeps up. Yeah, keeps up.
But it's easier to keep up with other people.

Speaker 1 Whoever's writing for you. It's a lot easier to keep up with other people, write it.
Right. I could keep up with that button if I get somebody to write it.
I ain't writing it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you couldn't.

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 1 Nigga, please.

Speaker 1 Go get it. Please.

Speaker 1 Anyone, Go get Shauna, anybody you want to go get. I mean, not Shauna, what's Boba? DC, Shauna? No, what's my girl?

Speaker 1 No, Miss Jade.

Speaker 1 Miss Jade.

Speaker 1 Go get Miss Jade. Shout out to Miss Jade and Bomadilla and Shauna.

Speaker 1 I was mad as hell when Shauna called one.

Speaker 1 I was ice cold, too.

Speaker 1 Getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting. I was getting some head.
I was like, hey.

Speaker 1 And that was one.

Speaker 1 No, you got them, huh? What'd you say? This nigga, you know, my God.

Speaker 1 What is that? No, I like that song. Nothing.
No, I know.

Speaker 1 God code. There you go.
Ish was there for all of the women that wanted to pop me that I wanted nothing to do with. He was there and remember him with his elephant memory ass.

Speaker 1 I don't remember none of that shit. But the same nigga argued with me about some shit he ain't do.

Speaker 1 Mr. No Memory.
I know. You got it, dog.
You remember shit that I forgot and don't want to ever think about.

Speaker 1 You remember the fucking Fantasia.

Speaker 1 Tweet. Fantasia.

Speaker 1 What happened there?

Speaker 1 When I see you. Tweet was going to get me.

Speaker 1 Lunelle was going to get you. Oh.

Speaker 1 Lunelle did say she wanted to fuck me, right? Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 1 That's how you stay to float. Yo, you did.
You was doing a lot of shit behind the scenes. That's how you stayed afloat, nigga.
You think I was selling dick out there? You was wild or something.

Speaker 1 Yo, that was impressive. That was impressive, yo.
Nigga, tweet. I wonder what happened.

Speaker 1 That album was crazy. That shit was crazy.
That album was crazy. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I came home, said about a quarter. A quarter to three.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna hold you. Let me give Rocco on some props real quick, man.

Speaker 1 And I don't like giving Rocco on props.

Speaker 1 But sometimes

Speaker 1 niggas will will play a song. It's going to freeze.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love you, nigga. Hey.

Speaker 1 He'd be asking about music shit. I'd be like, y'all got to speak to ice first.

Speaker 1 Rockon, I ain't never giving you props again, but I forgot about this the other day when you threw it on. Hold up now.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold you. He threw this shit on.
I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 this used to be my shit. Then I started singing to somebody across from the bar.
Duck ass nigga.

Speaker 1 Get it.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 You wasn't outside, man. It's before your time.
Let's go, Pharrell.

Speaker 1 Pharrell gave slaps to niggas, yo.

Speaker 1 Don't need no love.

Speaker 1 Cause I just wanna get along with you. Come on.

Speaker 1 Phil Collins. Here we go.
I just wanna get along with you. Try me.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, that's hard, yo.

Speaker 1 What happened to Pharrell?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 He runs around. I say, God bless you to people that

Speaker 1 he has a hotel in fucking Miami.

Speaker 2 He's creative director of Louis Vuitton.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get it. What does that have to do with him

Speaker 1 being on the MP and doing that? Chad, I argue. He retired like you.
Fuck you talking about? Out of respect. Chad, he retired.

Speaker 1 Music news. ESTG's back.
Got the album coming out two weeks. Finally.
I'm not listening to none of you niggas to the summertime. I don't give a fuck what y'all do.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear none of that shit. I ain't going to hold you.
Fridays come. I forget that the new music even dropped.
I ain't checking for none of this shit. I'll be there for that.

Speaker 1 Hey, go make it memorable and timeless. None of you niggas is dope.
None of y'all niggas are original. All y'all sound like either somebody else or like you've been sounding.

Speaker 1 None of y'all are innovative. I don't care about y'all, yo.
And then y'all wonder why the state of the music business is in such a disarray. Y'all are trash.

Speaker 1 I ain't really talking about ESTG because he went away, but I don't care. I got Bad Bunny to get me through.
I'm cool. That bad bunny is crazy.
That shit is live. Yeah, that bad bunny is hard.

Speaker 1 You see, the residency show you did too? And the residency show?

Speaker 1 No, no, the residency. He's doing a residency show at Puerto Rico.
Yeah. At Girl Care? Oh.
Puerto Rico. It's a month? It's a month.
It's 21 days or something like that.

Speaker 1 The first 10 days is only for Puerto Rican residents.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to get tickets for you later on, but it's going off. You're going to speak it.
I'm going down there.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to get it. I'm going to speak you, nigga.
I'm going to go down there for that. That might be worth it.

Speaker 1 Might be.

Speaker 1 You know that barks go get with bad money, Puerto Rico, before you get with vibe cartel.

Speaker 1 Academics, she's got with vibes. I mean, I'm trying to find the time

Speaker 1 with the new structure. So I get to it.
That nigga blamed it on you, son. No, no, I'm blaming it.

Speaker 1 I can't get the vibes because of the new structure. No, no, no, no, no.
You know what I mean? I didn't even know what new structure he was talking about. I'm sleeping on spaces.
And that's cool.

Speaker 1 I'm almost there, though. I'm going to start traveling.
I'm going to Argentina, I told you. I mean, Argentina.

Speaker 1 I'm going to find out why they whitewashed. You're going to all the white places, huh? No, they eliminated anything black about Argentina.

Speaker 1 I tried, you know, the ex-president, oh, he died years ago, and I tried to speak to his son. I'm on a mission.
Oh, you want some real investigative shit? Journalism shit.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to Ghana this summer. I'm doing it.
I am. You should.
I'm going to Ghana this summer. Enough is enough.
I've been too many other places. I'm going.
And Dr.

Speaker 1 Umar, nigga, you, nevermind. Never mind.

Speaker 1 Dr. Umar, I know that trick.
When you post the same girl girl a few days in a row in different outfits.

Speaker 1 Cool. Nah, he got three different ones.
Yeah, but Simba was there at some point in the day.

Speaker 1 Nigga.

Speaker 1 Umar is getting his shit off. Umar, Mark Lamont, I got a list of people that use that educational black power shit for the pussy.
Pew, pew. I don't.
Well, because you're faithful when you're married.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But in the event that you were not, I already know what you would be doing.
Nah, that's Felvin. Yo, what year did you get married?

Speaker 1 2023. Oh, last month?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's madness.

Speaker 1 But we were together before we were married.

Speaker 1 How long?

Speaker 1 A couple more years after that.

Speaker 1 How did you get rid of that? In 2019, you was out here.

Speaker 1 Nah, man. How did you get rid of all your joints? And when did you stop practicing polyurinism?

Speaker 1 That was only one night. Polyurinism.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 that's a good question.

Speaker 1 How did I do it? So your wife, dead or dad,

Speaker 1 poly shit was on. We both

Speaker 1 strongly advocate for monogamy, so that made it easy. Neither of us wanted to do that, you know what I mean? You had a tough time in the poly streets.
No, I just was over it.

Speaker 1 You ever just get to a point where you're just like, I've had enough?

Speaker 2 They have not.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. I mean, you know, that's Imani's hand.

Speaker 1 That's Imani's bag.

Speaker 1 That bag you saying, that's what Imani is. Now, hold up, big heart.

Speaker 1 If I had enough, I'd have to come in here and sit here for four hours and just look you in your eyes and give me free drinks, you freaky. Male.

Speaker 1 I think he was

Speaker 1 pinneappled out.

Speaker 1 You muddy and

Speaker 1 brothers. I take it back.
I'm sorry. Public airways.
I take it back. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 I didn't know you were talking about it. I didn't even care.

Speaker 1 No, she said they. She's never talking about you when she says they.
No.

Speaker 1 So, so this is what I tell you. In my 20s, I was just everywhere.
So, and then I got a point where I didn't want to do that no more. It was just, it wasn't, it was unhealthy.
Like, I was like,

Speaker 1 it was unhealthy. Cost some shit? No, no, no, no.
Mentally unhealthy. No,

Speaker 1 physically, I'm good, was good still am good never not been good but you don't have to prove none of us

Speaker 1 i mean if it was rough then it was rough and we an hour three she not listening

Speaker 1 no but by the time i got to my 30s i it was more like the serial monogamy thing anyway it was more like i was moving fast like the every relationship or dalliance might only be two weeks three weeks dalliance but i ain't never read that one hey yo this nigga did not say he was going through serial monogamy every three weeks what i'm saying is what the fuck are you talking about that's what serial monogamy is

Speaker 1 that's literally what's what is that

Speaker 1 three weeks no

Speaker 1 that's not monogamous

Speaker 1 what are you talking about

Speaker 1 that's serial monogamy no that's a fling

Speaker 1 that's i'm running through these joints fine fine fine whatever and as as i got through my 30s those those times got longer so then it was like oh i'm seeing somebody for four months six months but then it always kind of ended

Speaker 1 um so when it was time to actually end everything with everybody it wasn't like i had five people i had to call it was like one person had to call who i was seeing and maybe other people had to call who I would check in with.

Speaker 1 Scomal. No, no, what's check-in when you're talking about? Send some money for eggs.
I see y'all bad, though. What wasn't check-in when you monogamous?

Speaker 1 I still talk to you on the phone. We still talk to you, you know, I still talk to you on the phone, I still text, but certain texts are inappropriate once you like in something serious.

Speaker 1 Also, even if we're not fucking no more.

Speaker 1 That's what journalism did.

Speaker 1 And what is that technology?

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, you saw me on CNN?

Speaker 1 Shit like that?

Speaker 1 What is that text? What text is inappropriate? Like, what type of, what style, stylistically? Because I know that varies across relationships. It depends what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 We're talking about somebody that you was because it says all the time up here that he is able to maintain a platonic friendship with people that he may have once been like that with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I might have some, I'll give you an example.

Speaker 1 I may have somebody who back then, not now, who I had a platonic relationship with after we dated, and they might be like, yo, I seen you on such and such. Yo, I still want to fuck you.

Speaker 1 Or you still look fucked. You know what I mean? Some shit like that.
And what's inappropriate for you to be able to do that? That's inappropriate.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, you on the hook for what they text you? I mean, if I. Yeah, you gotta name it.
Because I argue that.

Speaker 1 You gotta nip that in in the bug. You gotta nip that in the bug.
You shut it down. I'm arguing that now.
I wouldn't. Huh? How do you shut it down? I'm arguing that now.

Speaker 1 Literally, like. You can't just let that fly.
You can't let that fly. That's disrespectful to.
Yeah, you can't let that fly. Yeah.
So go ahead. You can't let that fly.

Speaker 1 So I'm responsible for what somebody on sex with. No, you're responsible for how you get.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give you how you respond.

Speaker 1 You don't get that. No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not talking about a response. Maybe I didn't respond at all.
Maybe I dubbed it. Maybe I checked her in real life.
But I'm not about to be responsible for

Speaker 1 what somebody texted in real life out the clear blue sky.

Speaker 1 I'm not responsible for that. You're not responsible for nothing wrong.

Speaker 1 For example, sometimes my response was a non-response. And if they get a nine-response twice, they probably ain't going to do it no more anyway.
But if you respond smiley face, you entertain it.

Speaker 1 You entertaining that shit. You can't text nobody, I miss that pussy no more.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That shit's still as wet as I remember it.
No,

Speaker 1 no, that's bad. That seems past the line, slightly.
But it's past tense. Yeah.
Just coming back, coming down your thigh still.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That shit dripping.
Y'all niggas, oh, y'all gotta be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nah, so I'm gonna be able to do that. Them tap rules only exist because women don't know how wet other women's pussies be.

Speaker 1 And sometimes people try to spin the block, right? So if I ain't seen nobody in two years, it should be down the leg, right, right? I'm trying to change the subject.

Speaker 1 If your pussy is dripping down the leg,

Speaker 1 you know, the shit go down the head. And I'm assuming you do.
You know, little teardrops. You're trying to be in my phone reading everything I said.

Speaker 1 Then maybe once a year. And that's the move right now.

Speaker 1 Nah, that pussy did used to get... That shit was crazy.

Speaker 1 That shit still crazy, mom. You can't, you know, Joe, you can't ask

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 I try to call it so I can see it, though. I text as if if my wife were to look at my phone, smart, you know what I mean? And she would never look at my phone, but I, and she has a password.

Speaker 1 I give her passwords, everything, just for

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 whereas you don't get passwords, your shit got taken over. She don't give shit.
No, she took the password.

Speaker 1 There's a little bit of a passage. I know that look.
Yo, your G card, I did, bro. She got her face in your phone, too.
Yeah. Well, the G, what's G to me.

Speaker 1 What's G to to me is your phone being partner ready. Like, here, you can have my phone.
There's nothing in there.

Speaker 1 Who I am in front of you. It's who I am behind your back.
And that's all I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Like,

Speaker 1 there's no text that my wife could look at and feel uncomfortable

Speaker 1 or that I would feel uncomfortable doing. I'm comfortable with everything I communicate in my life.
What you do when you're old work is calling your wife names in your phone.

Speaker 1 Hell no. That wouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 I don't want to play like that. That wouldn't happen.
Can't do that. But if it happened.
Then I would have to shut that shit down. You have to check it.
You have to check it out. I like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you you can't play it. You can't say it.

Speaker 1 Just get over here and double-check. She's doing nothing back, though.
She is like that.

Speaker 1 You got a point.

Speaker 1 Y'all are crazy.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 I'm kidding, though. Yeah, yeah, no.
I'm kidding. And I'm potting, even if it happened in the past.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, but, no, man. Oh, man.
No intellectual pimping for me. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I'm just talking shit. I just regular dude.
You know what I'm saying? And you meet me and you develop relationships and that's it. I mean, in a the sense of, I just, I'm not trying to exploit nothing.

Speaker 1 If people are, if people find intelligence attractive, sure. I don't know if you're not.
Do you lean into that?

Speaker 1 Yes, he does. Not in a way that's like, I'm just, I'm just, that's just who I am.
Just me. Well, I respect that, yo.

Speaker 1 It's gotta be me.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you something. Based off that conversation, me, you, and Ish was having, during COVID, when the government told us that we don't have to pay rent, were you paying yours?

Speaker 1 Not the one in Brooklyn, because I didn't have it. Couldn't afford it.
The rent was $6,000 a month. Rent was $6,000 a month.
And I was like, I don't have $6,000 a month right now.

Speaker 1 I did not have it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Not, not.
Nope. But.
I was the only dummy running around paying rent. But you paid payment.
I was paying rent.

Speaker 1 But I still pay my rent. But I pay rent.
I respect the landlord, yo.

Speaker 1 No, for real. I clunk you with this phone.
And also,

Speaker 1 it wasn't paying rent.

Speaker 1 I clunk you. You guys are O-line.
Yeah. And it wasn't issues, but it was Mr.
It was like Mr. Roper.
It was a fucking big-ass company. And I still paid it before,

Speaker 1 by the end. But during that time, no, I didn't pay them.

Speaker 1 Mr. Roper never got paid.
Yo, he was. That nigga was at Jack's house every second.
Yo, dog, you got bitches over here.

Speaker 1 Y'all eating.

Speaker 1 Three company.

Speaker 1 Wait, what did he just say? He said, who's Mr. Roper? Mr.
Roper.

Speaker 2 Wow. It was Mr.
Roper, then it was Mr. Furley.

Speaker 1 Mr. Furley.

Speaker 1 Mr. Furley was in the closet.
I heard the show before. Mr.
Furley was good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he seemed a little too obsessed with Mr. Fleurley.
Yeah, he wanted to fuck Jack. He definitely wanted to fuck Jack.
Mr. Furley used to be flirting with Jan and Chrissy.
That's by. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Bi. He He was trying to get the force.
He wanted to fuck that whole house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The flamingos. You know, every time he came, Jack went in the kitchen? Mr.
Furley used to be like.

Speaker 1 Threes Company owed us an episode of Jack

Speaker 1 getting some coochie from the law. That's crazy.
They really dropped the ball with that one. They really did.
Home years in the house? No, it's the 70s.

Speaker 1 If the Threes Company came out right now, Threesomes.

Speaker 1 That's a show to need a reboot. 70s, early 80s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're trying to fucking squash the history of what Kwalu's was doing in the 70s.

Speaker 1 Nigga. Dog.

Speaker 1 Three's company, though. I've seen what Molly did up to.

Speaker 1 Study shorts and the Esperatrils. What?

Speaker 1 Janet

Speaker 1 with Uber out?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What? I'd add Janet and Uber X.

Speaker 1 Black.

Speaker 1 Janet, what's going for you? Not Chrissy? No, I was Janet guy. I was a Janet guy, too.
I was Janet guy. That a little short hair.
Always short hair. That's short hair, boy.
They get you.

Speaker 1 I was just like blonde, bimbo, couldn't cook nothing, wasn't holding Jack Damon. Janet, though.

Speaker 1 Anybody that the show casted as the sex symbol, I wanted somebody else. Like fucking Kelly on Saved by the Belle, I was on Lisa.

Speaker 1 Lisa's Large Very. Oh, Lisa.
Lark Void. Lark Void.
Yeah, Lisa Turtle. That was an easy ball.

Speaker 1 Family Matters, when Urkel was chasing Laura around, I was on the best friend that died. Yes, all day.
Beautiful. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Angel.
What? An angel in disguise, she was. Yeah, no, she was beautiful.
I never went with whatever they was to, trying to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they also didn't pick the baddest Jordan to be the baddest John.

Speaker 1 It depends on what you like. Because niggas thought Chrissy was

Speaker 1 the one. One, Three's Company, right? Yeah.
Yeah. That's she.
That's she. That's a white shit.
What's her name?

Speaker 1 Linda Summers. Blonde hair, big boots.
Suzanne Summers. Suzanne Summers.
Yeah. She went to Thigh Masters.
She went on to get Thigh Masters. Janet was selling weed.

Speaker 1 Janet didn't make no money when she left. I might have popped Lisa and Jesse before Kelly.
So, like, Facts of Life, you'd have fucked Joe. Me, too.
Jesse was not.

Speaker 1 Facts of Life, I did what you fucked up.

Speaker 2 Joe was the brunette. The one, no.
The street tough brunette.

Speaker 1 He said, He was the fucking Joe.

Speaker 1 Joe was.

Speaker 2 There was Blair the blonde.

Speaker 1 There was Blair the blue. The one who's rich.

Speaker 2 And there was Joe Natalie. Y'all were not fucking Natalie.

Speaker 1 You weren't full Natalie. And then Tootie.
And then. Man, why do you always talk like you know who we would fuck and who we wouldn't fuck and call up a picture of Natalie right fucking Natalie?

Speaker 1 Why do you act like that? You know who Natalie is?

Speaker 1 I think that you would fuck Natalie in the stretch.

Speaker 1 Okay. You don't know these shows either.
Spin off of different strokes. Ice don't know none of this shit, yo.
And he don't care. And don't make him tell us that he don't care.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing. I'm minding my business letting y'all talk.
I was just surprised. I'm sorry.
So, facts of life. Who you smashed on facts? I was like Pop Blair before Joe.

Speaker 1 You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and then you have the facts alive.

Speaker 1 The facts alive. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 I think you did the Nancy McKinnon. I think you think you did the Joe.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 I'm still mad that y'all know Nancy Reagan sucks a good dick.

Speaker 1 I'm still not over that. We don't know.
Put spec on the throne. We heard.
They all say it. They all saying it, though.
They all say it. They all say they got to have some kind of.

Speaker 1 They was like, you got to meet Nancy. Like, it was like executives were like, like.
I get it. I'm just mad that y'all knew that, like, the ABC.

Speaker 1 That was a thing, bro.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't have been for y'all. Like, the way my brain worked, if my dick wasn't of

Speaker 1 time appropriate, age appropriate when that person was that person, then I missed the boat. Hey, I wasn't like that in the 50s and 60s.
I missed it.

Speaker 1 By the time I got on Earth, I wasn't checking for Nancy Reagan. She was in the 50s, but she's the GOAT.
60s, 70s. It wasn't that.
It's like, yeah, but that 80s, you said,

Speaker 1 she was still fucking dicks in the 80s. She was saying that she was

Speaker 1 a nigga. Ronald Reagan was the president in the 80s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he was already fucking. Yeah, she was doing this in the 60s on the MGM a lot.

Speaker 1 That news came out like 2021. She beat Monica.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 From what I hear. Now y'all base that on.
Oh, from what I heard. When I hear Nancy Reagan was like the Wilt Chamberlain of this shit.
That's why I kids today know Wilt.

Speaker 1 Nancy Reagan was like the Wilt Chamberlain in the shit. She cannot be.
She gave niggas 100.

Speaker 1 40 rebounds. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 She was crazy at the rim.

Speaker 1 She's sick at the time.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you. I've been working here too long.
I got to get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Republican niggas going to hang your ass.

Speaker 1 Somebody's talking about

Speaker 1 Pierce Morgan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, words. This is fucking.
Here and Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan is like the Republican Kobe.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He Alan Iverson Ivan and Kobe mix for the Republican Kobe.

Speaker 1 They love him. Dog.
They're going to tip me. He made up Madagascar.

Speaker 1 They go to Magic. They're going to be mad at him.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Nancy Reagan.

Speaker 1 Off of our Beanie Siegel who conversation, I did want to ask y'all: if you could pick any rapper in the world for you to be on the same song with them five to ten times, who do you think you would get the better of majority of the time?

Speaker 1 Joe Button. That's what I was going to say.
That was my guess. That's literally what I was going to say.
I got to write it? That's peace. Okay, Joe Button for you.
Yeah, for sure. I got to write it.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm getting a writer. Could that matter?

Speaker 1 He got to be a family member. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, you got a lot of niggas to pick from now. I got a lot of gifts.
Joe Button. Now I'm shooting a gift.
I'm definitely going to. I'm definitely going to say Joe Button.

Speaker 1 Your brother already did it. So

Speaker 1 five tracks, I killed you. But no.

Speaker 1 Joe's on my list. Yeah.
I answered Joe Button.

Speaker 1 Joe Button, Little Trick. This is corny, though.
Like a trick question, huh? Yeah, this is corny.

Speaker 1 You know what it is for me? It's like

Speaker 1 beating anybody else in the track wouldn't give me any satisfaction. But like destroying you in the track and then sitting here afterward,

Speaker 1 that would be fun.

Speaker 1 I think that's why everybody feels that way.

Speaker 1 All right, well, let me just direct my comment to you since you're the voice of how everybody feels. I don't think you could beat me in nothing that Pierce Morgan is not present.

Speaker 1 Like if one of them little fucking social thought leaders, them white niggas you be around, if they not present, I think I got you.

Speaker 1 We're doing basketball. We are going to do spades.
What else? You said you don't shoot pool, right? I ain't going to hold you yo. I'm bowling.

Speaker 1 bowling, you bowl. Yeah,

Speaker 1 today, though, he good and pool. I'm decent.
I'm decent. I can keep pushing that pool.
No, no, no. He keeps bringing up pool.
He's the only one who didn't answer. He's the only one who didn't answer.

Speaker 1 I'm all right. I'm all right.

Speaker 1 I'm not good at pool. He's nice.
So I'm not good at that wouldn't count. I'm not good at pool though.
I saw the couple you played basketball, so then it's like, I don't know how well you self-assess.

Speaker 1 Bowling.

Speaker 1 Spades.

Speaker 1 Back to your question, though. Yeah, this nigga playing with space.
He's a lot of them legends. And he's getting away with a lot of legends.
He's got a bringing niggas up here, bro.

Speaker 1 Play this nigga. I'm going to be short so I can't hear everyone at the same time.
So I said, back to your question, I'm going after a lot of them 80s legends.

Speaker 1 I'll get a couple of niggas out of here today. Kumo D and him? Yeah, all them niggas.
You ain't beating Marley Maul. Kumo D? All them niggas.

Speaker 1 Marley Maul don't rap. Marley don't rap.

Speaker 1 What's the muscles? The bridge. Melly Mel.
No, you're getting Mellie Mel out of it. Melly Mel.
Yeah, I'm going after them. Nah, you're not getting Meli Mel out of it.
You're not getting Kumo D.

Speaker 1 Or Kumo D. Crazy.
I said Eric. Yeah, maybe before Kumo D.
You should start. I'm going after them.
Pre- and post-Kumo D. I'm going to get though.
Eric B. D.
You're going to get G-Rap too?

Speaker 1 I'm going to get though.

Speaker 1 Leave my Uncle Marie. I better leave Kumo D.
I'm saying, I think they all going to eat Uncle. No, no, no.
I'm not going to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about Shan? You think you get Shan?

Speaker 1 Getting.

Speaker 2 Getting Shan out of here? Yeah. Big Daddy Kane.

Speaker 1 Shan was going out.

Speaker 1 Shan was going out now on that stupid net.

Speaker 1 Big Daddy Kane rap better than all of us right now. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm not playing with that. Just a second.

Speaker 2 I wanted to see what he was going to say.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 As long as you know your limitations, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's mailbag, them old legends. Hey.

Speaker 1 Y'all are so trash.

Speaker 1 What else is important or unimportant?

Speaker 1 You talk playoff. Is this sports? That's it, I think.

Speaker 1 Ain't nothing else out there? It's cool with me.

Speaker 1 I'm satisfied. Let me just

Speaker 1 check my mental Rolodex, which is the notes in my iPhone. Hey, yo, Mark.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I hope when this nigga played you in basketball, like,

Speaker 1 you play well. I'm okay.
Nah, because you talk a lot of shit. I haven't talked a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 You only hear me talk shit. You don't hear him.
He started this movie. I don't pay attention to this nigga.
I pay attention to him. Yeah, he's...
Nigga, you know when he has to do bracelets.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, listen. What I'm saying is that I don't pay attention to.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear you shit. You don't talk a lot of shit.
Wait, hold on, stop. You gotta hear this because y'all do that a lot and I don't hear him.
Say it again. You don't got no headphones.

Speaker 1 You say a lot of slick shit and I read it. I don't be saying that in slick.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 I said, nigga, you said you don't pay attention. I said, nigga, you notice when he gets a new bracelet.
I'm saying, you do pay attention to him.

Speaker 1 No, but not when he speaks, because a nigga will talk you into a fucking lake. I'm not paying attention to that.
Period.

Speaker 1 You talk a lot of shit because you're good at talking, and I hope that you can back it up. I hope that you play basketball and shut this nigga up.
Period. Oh, so you want me to win? Is what you say?

Speaker 1 I don't want you to win, but I want you to fare well.

Speaker 1 I don't care whether there's only winning. Hey, Mark, I ain't gonna hold you.
Don't lose because you say you don't. You talked a lot of shit about both of them niggas.
Okay,

Speaker 1 that's not true.

Speaker 1 This is what happened. This is what happened.

Speaker 1 This whole exchange started with us minding our own business, and this nigga coming up and saying, y'all niggas can't play no basketball. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 You're not athletic. Nobody who can read that good can jump, basically, is what you said.
Pops called up and shut shit down, nigga. You're free tonight.

Speaker 1 For monopoly? Stalk stupid to me like you talked last part. I got money.
You're free tonight? I got some money. I'm free tonight.
Let's start with availability. I have some money.
For what?

Speaker 1 For what? Are you available? And yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't do this one.

Speaker 1 We're talking about monopolies. I take a monopoly.
See? See?

Speaker 1 That's what gets them every time. What? And you don't have a sitter, Mark.
Stop. Don't you?

Speaker 1 Who's going to be at my house?

Speaker 1 I got a table. I got a game.
Okay. I like that.
You also have a daytime curfew. Mind your business.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Not today. And it's not regular Monopoly.
Oh, you figured. If it's not today, you can stick around, Chump.
What makes it... I got to go pick up the baby, though.
Oh.

Speaker 1 But I can come back.

Speaker 1 That's my shit. That's my line all the time.

Speaker 1 That's my comeback and what's going on. I'm going to be playing it, depending on what y'all talking about.

Speaker 1 Can y'all just tell me what the Monopoly shit is? I really think he would be good, so I really want to introduce him to the game. The way that you're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 He has to be able to be outside longer than.

Speaker 1 How long does this Monopoly take? 10 hours? No,

Speaker 1 40 minutes. 90 minutes.

Speaker 1 What makes this monopoly different than a regular monopoly? It's mega monopoly. We'll tell you about it off here.
Tell you about it off here. Okay, okay.
We'll tell you about it off here.

Speaker 1 Oh, three days.

Speaker 1 Core,

Speaker 1 are we going to the

Speaker 1 Canelo Crawford fight? Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I think that might be one that we should be at. It's worth it.

Speaker 1 Where is it? Vegas? Vegas.

Speaker 1 I think that's one that

Speaker 1 September.

Speaker 1 I think I want to say September 25th.

Speaker 1 I told you I'm trying to, nah, forget it, man. No, I'm just, I just know before you was always saying the fight in Vegas was never your thing.
You wouldn't go to them shits. Canelo Crawford.

Speaker 1 So to even hear you say that, it's like, okay, I see it. Who you got? Change.

Speaker 1 It could change. But as of today, who you got? You know who you got.

Speaker 1 He can't say none of that.

Speaker 1 I want to go black. Stay black, nigga.

Speaker 1 It's going to be.

Speaker 1 That boy Canelo is. I'm going to be rooting for Bud, but...
Yeah, I'm rooting for Bud, but Canelo's different. He's still tough, bro.
Canelo's different. He's losing a step, too, but he's tough still.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Bud had to go up. I know.
But Canelo ain't the same. Canelo, but he's still tough, bro.

Speaker 1 He's comfortable with that weight. He's going to itch you.
Would you go out there? To the fight? Yeah. I doubt it.

Speaker 1 He's a hard out, though. Because you can't win the match.
I'm going. And I'm bringing my girlfriend.
I'm being faithful. You can't wear the Frank Lucas makes his shit, nigga.

Speaker 1 Who can't? He got to Vegas. You can't wear the Frank Lucas makes in Vegas.

Speaker 1 It's hot. No,

Speaker 2 it's fucking freezing in the winter. Really? It's the desert.
It's freezing in the fucking winter.

Speaker 1 Not in September, though. I went to Vegas in Timesh.
It was hot hot as fuck telling New York it's freezing in Vegas

Speaker 1 it is

Speaker 1 right now you're right no you're right you're right about that

Speaker 1 I'm going to that fight it's come out there nigga put the mink on I'm scared to know what they're gonna want for a good ticket yeah it's gonna be stupid exploitative this the one

Speaker 1 exploitative

Speaker 1 yeah that's fucked up

Speaker 1 you know I mean

Speaker 1 tickets up to seven grand that's fucked up no that's a luxury yes a luxury it's a luxury you do not need to go be at the Canelo Crawford fight. Unlike heat.
But you need

Speaker 1 four walls.

Speaker 1 Thank God we got landlords like Ish.

Speaker 1 Hey, we need what we need is the roof over our heads, man. Thanks, Ish.

Speaker 1 Make sure the heat is right, Ish. Make sure them old-ass radiators and steam shits is out.
Ish was mad as hell during COVID.

Speaker 1 He was tight during COVID. He was passionate.
My man suffered, man. I appreciate it.
You got houses. That was bad going.
I respect that. I understand, but he survived.
Look at him. Look.

Speaker 1 Came out stronger. He's thriving.
Clean. Strong arm, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, Kanye did some shit doing fly. What he sold? He sold something or something.
Some new slippers or something. He just posted some new joints, $20.

Speaker 1 He went off on Adidas first because he was like, you know, we severed business ties, yet

Speaker 1 when I searched Yeezy, y'all come up before me. And y'all still got all my shit on your site and everything.
So he went on a whole rant about that. And they took it all down.

Speaker 1 The Adidas took it down? Yeah. It's all down.

Speaker 1 Good for them. Good for him.
And then he went and launched the new,

Speaker 1 was it like a slipper socks? Yeah, slippers. Like the slipper socks? It's not

Speaker 1 like sexual slippers. It's something new.

Speaker 1 I saw them named it as $20. I wouldn't buy them, but they looked all right.

Speaker 1 Why would you buy them?

Speaker 1 I don't support Yay.

Speaker 1 That Nazi anti-Semitic shit was too much for me. Got it.

Speaker 1 I can't fuck with that. Not until if he apologized or actually felt different about it, but I actually think he's fucked up on that.

Speaker 1 But I also think Adidas did him dirty. Even musical you wouldn't support? Mm-mm.
No.

Speaker 1 I don't even stream his stuff anymore.

Speaker 1 You're not getting a new album? No.

Speaker 1 No. If I hear, it's going to be here.
Mark don't play that shit.

Speaker 1 Mark don't. Mark that.
Is anybody else?

Speaker 1 I ain't seen a football game since.

Speaker 1 When I'm with you, I'm with Cap.

Speaker 1 You with Cap every time Steelers lose. You with Cap lying.
Right.

Speaker 1 That's the cap. So you don't support what he said, you're saying.
So you don't fuck with him. Yeah, when he said Hitler wasn't that bad, yeah, I definitely don't support that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And slavery was a choice.

Speaker 1 Slavery was a choice.

Speaker 1 I don't fuck with none of that. You a nigga that would.
Is anybody else? You a nigga that wouldn't have fun enough. You a nigga that would.
There's not a lot of people who I got that line for. R.

Speaker 1 Kelly's another person. You know what I mean? I don't even like to be in a room with this playing.
I asked DJs or people to turn the shit off. Never that.
That's just me.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't think everybody has to do that. That's my own personal choice.
I'm with you. You're never cutting off that R.
You would what?

Speaker 1 R. Kelly.
I don't play R. Kelly, and I don't force it on nobody else, Pauls.
You do what you do.

Speaker 1 If I'm somewhere in this playing, it is what it is. But you would never hear no R.
Kelly in my car car, and nothing. You don't play Kels no more?

Speaker 1 And I got a rule in my business is you cannot play it here as a company rule. Kells? I'm down with Teacher Moses.
Yeah. I'm down with Teacher Moses, nigga.
I love Teacher Moses. We playing that off.

Speaker 1 Yo, why? Come on, Mark. You really asking why? That artist.

Speaker 2 Because he pee on people's kids. It's called conviction.

Speaker 1 You said he would kill what? He pees on people's kids. Yo, listen, I don't know about that.
I'm talking about the artist, the song. Yeah, that artist pees on people's kids.

Speaker 1 Who he peed on on Did You Ever Think That You Would Get This Rich?

Speaker 1 Like, y'all, I hate hearing the people say oh the songs remind me that like there's not songs

Speaker 1 remind you that one and two R. Kelly ain't making

Speaker 1 making none of the money from his catalog

Speaker 1 in the name of love it's just personal that I just

Speaker 1 I don't separate I can't separate this this is my this is why I do it there's a couple reasons one

Speaker 1 I don't want to endorse him. I think there was a long time where people were making fun of what R.
Kelly did, making light of it.

Speaker 1 And I think us continuing to support him makes it easy for us to ignore what he did.

Speaker 1 you know there's lots of artists who fucked up i'm not saying we got to be perfect here i'm saying in this particular case i saw a direct harm the other reason was for a long time r kelly was making his money he he had a compound where little girls were still or young girls were in the house literally like a cult and he wasn't making money from a lot of sources so we were directly funding what he was doing it wasn't some abstract like i don't want to i don't want to listen to miles davis kind of blue because what he did to to uh sicely tyson that's like Then you can get into slippery slopes.

Speaker 1 I'm saying R. Kelly was directly doing shit at the moment that we were funding.
And at this point, because I don't desire to listen to R. Kelly anymore.
Gotcha. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 For those reasons. All I hear when I hear

Speaker 1 that is.

Speaker 1 When I hear that, I'm sorry. I gotta step.
But you ain't gotta apologize for that, though. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I'm just saying. You can't tell none of them old folks that at the party.

Speaker 1 You can't tell the old folks turn off R. Kelly.

Speaker 1 I don't tell them. It's his own crime.
So you're gonna walk out. You woken out? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 This is my choice. But again,

Speaker 1 I'm not asking other people to do it. I ain't gonna be there because of the daytime curfew.

Speaker 1 Party don't come alive at the time. Nice.
Surprise party for you.

Speaker 2 You don't have like a private boycott? Somebody that you don't support because we're private.

Speaker 1 You listen to Kashi?

Speaker 1 No. Integrity.
Wait, why? Why? Why?

Speaker 1 You know why I don't listen to Tashi? Why? That's not a good example. Why is Akashi? That's a perfect example.
Because he hurts some people that I'm friends with. And he's trash.

Speaker 1 Some people that he, some people, he sent some people to jail that I know personally. What if you didn't know those people but did the exact same thing? I can't speak on that because I know them.

Speaker 1 And he's trash. I know Mel Matrix.
No, so, okay. So.
And he's trash.

Speaker 1 Lots of reasons not to to be able to do it. He's trash all the time.
What I'm saying is

Speaker 1 for me, I don't got to be personal. I'm just saying, you said Annie's trash.
I like Trash.

Speaker 1 R. Kelly is one of the greatest music discographies to exist.
I agree. So to

Speaker 1 try to make a parallel with Takashi, I see your point, but. The parallel is only we all got things, we all got lines.
That's true. And I'm just saying, my line is.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I wasn't trying to convince you. I'm not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, that's a parallel.

Speaker 1 R. Kelly's a genius.
That's what makes it harder. I get what you're saying.
I like R. Kelly's music.
What about the music that he wrote for people? You wouldn't listen to that neither.

Speaker 1 It's a little bit difficult. It's a little different for me,

Speaker 1 but it is more difficult. Like, do I want to not listen to I Believe I Can Fly or whatever?

Speaker 1 Or Aaliyah's album, first album, and things like that. Back when he was making direct money from it and it was affecting, like, again, that cult shit, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 But now, it's different because I don't think when I listen to Aaliyah, if I played Aaliyah in my car right now, I don't think people are

Speaker 1 even subconsciously like supporting R. Kelly.
Amy Jane Nutt but a uncle?

Speaker 1 Oh, I wouldn't play that. All right.
I wouldn't play that for that reason. For that reason.
All right.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I should best remix. My bad.

Speaker 1 It's okay. It's all right.

Speaker 1 When you go home, play whoever you want to play.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 But in here. Don't look now, but fucking Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars, they got a little slap.
Yeah. That I like.
Together? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 This is not my sleeper. I'm just giving y'all 30 seconds so y'all can see what you're on.

Speaker 1 I just woke up from a dream

Speaker 1 where you and I had to say let's go Demails

Speaker 1 Wherever you go, that's where I'll follow

Speaker 1 Nobody's promised tomorrow

Speaker 1 So I'ma love you every night, like it's the last night.

Speaker 1 Like it's the last night.

Speaker 1 If the world was ending, I'd wanna be next to you.

Speaker 1 If the time

Speaker 1 was over and our time on earth was through,

Speaker 1 I wanna hold you just for a while.

Speaker 1 You get the point. That shit sounds great.
No, that shit's great. It's called Die with the Smells really, really, really good.
Are we gonna hear anything else from

Speaker 1 what was the name of the group, Silph Sonic? I hope not. I doubt it.
You said you hope not? Yeah, I hope not. Why? I'm cool off of that.
I just want Bruno Marsolo at this point.

Speaker 1 That seemed like it was a

Speaker 1 mistake.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, nah, Grammy award-winning mistake.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 the singles work. The album, not so much.
Not so much.

Speaker 1 Oh, the singles singles work, both of them. Yeah.
I'm cool. This bitch got me paying of it.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping that was just like a thing for that time. Yeah.
And I think we liked them so much that we even pushed them singles.

Speaker 1 That singles was fire. That, what's the name? Smoking out the window.
And

Speaker 1 leave the door open.

Speaker 1 Leave the open.

Speaker 1 Leave the open.

Speaker 1 I'm going to leave the door open.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 for my sleeper, I'm giving you Teddy Swims and

Speaker 1 Giveon. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's some bullshit, right?

Speaker 1 How can someone like you

Speaker 1 wanna give me love?

Speaker 1 Think I deserve it,

Speaker 1 but I can get enough.

Speaker 1 You're so beautiful. Spirit you more like a peppercorn out of me.
See that you might be invisible.

Speaker 1 Too good to be true.

Speaker 1 Tell me:

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 Made up in my head, are you in my bedroom?

Speaker 1 ever since I met you

Speaker 1 Tell me

Speaker 1 Are you, are you?

Speaker 1 Are you

Speaker 1 something from a dream is something that I made

Speaker 1 Questions that I ask every time I wake up

Speaker 1 You never do too much

Speaker 1 How you steal enough from me

Speaker 1 I can feel the rush

Speaker 1 Even when you slow down for me, looking at you, laying right there.

Speaker 1 Are you from this world? I swear you're beautiful. Spiritual.

Speaker 1 I just want you to know.

Speaker 1 Stop pretending something. I've been real.
I don't know what to think.

Speaker 1 And if it's all a dream, I don't wanna wake up.

Speaker 1 you?

Speaker 1 Wait up in my head, or are you in my bedroom? In my bedroom

Speaker 1 Questions that I ask ever since I met you,

Speaker 1 tell me:

Speaker 1 Are you, are you?

Speaker 1 Are you, are you?

Speaker 1 Are you, are you?

Speaker 1 Are you

Speaker 1 something from a dream or something that I may have

Speaker 1 questions that I ask every time I wake up?

Speaker 1 Brand new music from Teddy Swims and Give Yeon, that record is called Are You Even Real Brand New? Available on your phone and on DSPs right this second. All right, man.
I'm going to go to Detroit.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure y'all all saw there was a bunch of Eminem records that were leaked. And the leaker is talking about he got upwards of 300 more to leak.

Speaker 1 And it just reminded me of a song that Emin Royce made called Take for Me. So let's see.
You're gonna be new old music.

Speaker 1 Always been the type of dude to defeat my clip. I know that without the fans, I ain't shit.
But y'all better read my lips. I don't spit raps this ill for you to just hack and steal and leak my shit.

Speaker 1 So keep my trip. I hope y'all don't think y'all helping me out with that shit.
That shit stressing me out. Nickel nine is blowing up.
Christmas time, you should hang my album on top of your fireplace.

Speaker 1 Cause around that time, my stocking is going up. Feels like a victory bitter speaker.
The bigger I get, the bigger the wedge.

Speaker 1 Between the relationship of me and my bigger broke, hear what I said, feels like the shit was swished on me.

Speaker 1 Everything I do for the nigga, and the nigga know I would do anything for him, but the nigga refuses. Quit just straight shitting on me.
Keeping your distance, probably best.

Speaker 1 If you don't wanna fuck with me, but you know me, probably best. Fuck bitty, you won't dad, you know it's Layla Ali Chess.
Tough shitty, the problems.

Speaker 1 You got a problem, you think that I'm already set.

Speaker 1 So I'ma look down on you, just be proud of me You already got my respect I ain't tryna say something I regret So I'ma just stop chasing the pain And let you deal with the fact that we don't get along Cause I got a big face in the game Sometimes I feel like fuck my life I fuck with a few niggas that I know if my chick was a shady hoe Niggas wouldn't think twice, but they fuck my wife Yes, that's the difference in friends and associates I done been broke, I done been through the motions I don't take no attention to verbs I use my scope and I tend to devote just No one ever blows up before just talk I don't make money just to loan it to y'all Tell a nigga that thing you following is like dialing and then talking to a hole in the ball Please look at these expenses, these niggas expensive.

Speaker 1 If I gotta lend you money every time I see you, just to be a friend, bitch, I don't really need your friendship.

Speaker 1 Everything not enough

Speaker 1 when more can I give up?

Speaker 1 Is there anyone that I can trust?

Speaker 1 I ain't giving you money on you so pay. And give me any

Speaker 1 pay. And you just walk away without a word to say.
You just take it from me.

Speaker 1 yeah. You just make it for me.

Speaker 1 I live in a bubble, I struggle with the fame. Trouble is the pain, most double give a fuck what you say.

Speaker 1 When my music you take so subtle, just to give it away to people who don't even appreciate clothes, motherfucker, I'm living today. Cause I break my back to give you my heart.

Speaker 1 You steal my thoughts, it's like driving a spike through my heart. You might not think it's that big of a deal to steal from me, but music.

Speaker 1 All I got, aside from my daughters, that's a sound like a martyr, but it's getting harder than I thought. Tonight, just go crazy.
Trapped in his house, I'm about to just snap him like not.

Speaker 1 Cause darving of what I got, then I not work for it. Put it all in every record I record.
When the police tell me why I deserve loads, I keep having to keep rapping.

Speaker 1 But I wonder sometimes it's the worth of all the bullshit. Cause it feels like a town.
There ain't no getting up from, but I won't let it get me down. I won't suck.

Speaker 1 My money think like one, so fuck him. They'll appreciate me when I'm gone.

Speaker 1 I say it was ill right, the way I killed mice, but the way I feel right now, it just feels like I'm so done with this shit that I may as well wipe.

Speaker 1 I have nothing else to give you, nothing left to trip you. Farewell, I bit you.
Before I go, my last gift to you. Ladies and gentlemen, this slow house, I give you.
Everything not enough.

Speaker 1 but more can I give up?

Speaker 1 Is there anyone that I can trust?

Speaker 1 I ain't giving you my own music.

Speaker 1 And again, that is new, old music. We're about 12 years old now, 13.

Speaker 1 That is bad meets evil. Take from me.
All right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play something off this new ransom project.

Speaker 1 At first, it threw me off because he's using the freeway flow, which I thought was weird, but he kind of bodied this.

Speaker 1 Where to? Ransom.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Ryan. Make sure to go.
Where do you go? For the love.

Speaker 1 This shit is real. Where do you go? We ain't have many places to go, man.

Speaker 1 Where?

Speaker 1 Got to turn to them streets.

Speaker 1 Damn, I couldn't run to my mama. Cause she was never one for the drama.
No love for my father. These concrete streets made it harder.
Drop love for my honor. Swap drugs for a dollar.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some hot slugs make them holler. Squeeze guns.
Cause I never had a hug as a toddler. Two fiends selling dreams.
Spark plugs and some copper caught a bug. Hot enough to burn scrubs off a dock.

Speaker 1 God damn. Your dread coming if the plug is a roster won't buzz till he see a little thug in your posture.
Some O Jing and a jug full of vodka, one glove and a chopper. Unclubbed, I'm a shocker.

Speaker 1 Mom duke's getting high, cause the love couldn't stop her. If you serve her, you'll be laying in the tub with your pot, with your pocket.
I grew up like a monster, too tough for a talker.

Speaker 1 Too stuck playing contra. One round street fighters balling up like Blanca.
Two shooters on the corner, parking up in a hansa. Got two fours, spark them up like Mama.
Dark enough like Bamba.

Speaker 1 Lil Mo, tried to put it on me. That's a body smarting up for the karma.
No weapon you can form. Sharp enough for the armor.
For the armor, it's hard enough getting harder.

Speaker 1 Where do you go? It's no love for a martin. We still hustle till the sun come up.
It's no peace till the guns go down. It's a cold winter.
She won't sleep till the sun shows up.

Speaker 1 Cause mama knows she don't want no frowns. The streets so bitter.
It's cold out, better bundle up. Your pop's gone, he don't want you now.
He a known sinner. Either go home or gorilla.

Speaker 1 The words from an ex-dope dealer.

Speaker 1 Nigga, yeah, no such thing as our closure. The streets only made the hard colder.
And made me start over.

Speaker 1 The past could be music to your ears, but be clear it ain't the harp over Put the pain in the pot, stir with a little lion Have a pops plus a block, you create a dark soldier I pay what I owe you, but you won't get a penny more You'll find a diamond in a rough without any flaws Two addicts in the shop selling socks Three chains with no locks DVD starring Demi Moore Sharon Stone got a safety pin hinged on the heronbone Chuck D's welcome to the terror dome Big brother never home So I had to butter all my bread alone Poke a face so you would have never known

Speaker 1 You play the cards, you've been dealt when the bed is on. Where do you go for the love when it's never shown? We still hustle till the sun come up.
It's no peace till the guns go down. That's cool.

Speaker 1 She won't sleep till the sun shows. Obviously, paying homage to Freeway.

Speaker 1 I fuck with that shit.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Philly. He body that flow.
Shout out to Jersey. Rand.

Speaker 1 Ish is in the kitchen. So, Mel, you want to do yours?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 In the kitchen looking for the sleeper, right?

Speaker 1 Texting Alex.

Speaker 1 It ain't in there. Probably check under the stove.

Speaker 1 Well, check over the stove.

Speaker 1 It's probably

Speaker 1 if you look behind the chips.

Speaker 1 But it's a sleeping there if you look behind the chips and stuff.

Speaker 1 Or under the sand.

Speaker 2 Okay, mine is called Terms and Conditions by Benji and Spillage Village.

Speaker 1 That's I'm back at it again. For fuck's sake, fuck off.

Speaker 1 Is it difficult feeling with your good eye?

Speaker 1 Are we visible only in the good light?

Speaker 1 Are we typical for always wanting goodbye?

Speaker 1 So, is you read it or is you sick of good time?

Speaker 1 Cause I like to walk it out and bounce to the beaty yeah Show me what you're talking about so I can feel the meaning yeah You don't need to knock it out, just focus on your breathing, yeah When you're ready, shout it out now, watch out for the sea, yeah If you're down to ride, there's a wonderland

Speaker 1 This remind me of the motherland I'm a mama, we could take a ride to the wonderland

Speaker 1 In touch it till the city cut the falls down right. Just a touch and condition

Speaker 1 Just like the condition, you got the feeling of the city

Speaker 1 Stretch it out, set it down, take it in, let it out

Speaker 1 Just a bright, just a mouth, let it in, let it out, let it in

Speaker 1 Take a second, you'll think it's all right.

Speaker 1 You get the feeling I see

Speaker 1 I hope you come along for the ride. Don't have to be alone all our lives.
After all the lows come to highs, ain't no need to catch you up to speed. All you really gotta do is breathe.

Speaker 1 Everything we show to give you all, cause that just might be all you really need.

Speaker 1 I hope you come along for the ride. After being alone all our lives, after all the lows come to ice, ain't no need to catch you up to speed.
All you really gotta do is breathe.

Speaker 1 Every day but sure to give you all, cause that just might be all you really need.

Speaker 1 Stretch it down, settle down.

Speaker 1 Take it in, let it down.

Speaker 1 Just the ground, just email.

Speaker 1 Let it in, let it out,

Speaker 1 let it in, let it in.

Speaker 1 In and out, let it fall.

Speaker 1 Show the world who you are.

Speaker 1 Don't believe everything in colorful.

Speaker 1 Cause everybody wanna be comfortable.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 you will stop

Speaker 1 and show the whole world who you are.

Speaker 1 Wiggin hands in the air if you understand.

Speaker 1 You got the terms that the church says. Amen.

Speaker 1 Speak the condition, you got the feeling that I said it about it all still right.

Speaker 1 Stretch it out, set it down,

Speaker 1 take it in, let it out.

Speaker 1 Let it in,

Speaker 1 let it in.

Speaker 1 As Benji as Spillage Village, terms and conditions.

Speaker 1 Shout out to them.

Speaker 1 You got my shit? I sure do, buddy. I'm going to Avara.
The song is called Paradigm. This is the sped up version.
Let's get it.

Speaker 1 He said it's gonna wait my mom.

Speaker 1 She promised me the moon for sure.

Speaker 1 They said living the highlights, they'd be real good to me, baby.

Speaker 1 But I just wanna take my time.

Speaker 1 There's a clouds in the sky, yeah.

Speaker 1 Take your places and play your heart

Speaker 1 See, I was in the fast late gameplay.

Speaker 1 And I was going insane, love changed.

Speaker 1 I was in the fast late, gameplay.

Speaker 1 I was going insane, big change.

Speaker 1 Fearless,

Speaker 1 checking on the same look in my eyes.

Speaker 1 I get gone like that's no.

Speaker 1 I just got too much to hold.

Speaker 1 Look at some who died.

Speaker 1 Going back every step of the I

Speaker 1 can't go like this no.

Speaker 1 I just wanna break through.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I guess there's still

Speaker 1 something more to love.

Speaker 1 I guess I can't ignore

Speaker 1 to be the one to shine like a butterfly.

Speaker 1 And I see these open skies.

Speaker 1 I guess I can't complain no more.

Speaker 1 I was in the fast lane, gameplay.

Speaker 1 And I was going insane, love change.

Speaker 1 I was in the fast lane, gameplay.

Speaker 1 I was going insane, look change.

Speaker 1 I can't go like a snowman.

Speaker 1 I just got too much to hold.

Speaker 1 I guess I hear that.

Speaker 1 The only pack in the step that I

Speaker 1 I can't go like a slow.

Speaker 1 That's just what I make for.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna shoot the first day, big pain.

Speaker 1 I was gonna be the same

Speaker 1 change. I'm gonna shoot the first thing, big,

Speaker 1 always gonna be the same, big change.

Speaker 1 That is Paradigm, the sped up version by Avara. I ain't gonna hold you, bro.

Speaker 1 You should hit your backup sleeper more often.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie, your backup sleepers? That was one. No.

Speaker 1 My first sleeper was your what you played.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Gray Mines.

Speaker 1 Hey, man, but

Speaker 1 I think Mark has a sleeper. No, Mark got a little something.

Speaker 1 We good.

Speaker 1 Mark got some Cordet shit. Come on.
Let me go.

Speaker 1 Cordeh shit. No, I still got this

Speaker 1 bad bunny that got to be in the chokehold. Better die is the joint.
Get to it.

Speaker 1 Entola fotito sober bien. Mamitalo ya ahora y da potambien.
Tu yung a todisa

Speaker 1 pamo va y lal, pamo va bal a vella quiyal, de poca

Speaker 1 tutaba huquial, yeto se va odal, pamotal minal mal. Sui, pulque yozo yun problemo.

Speaker 1 Y porque tuta puano,

Speaker 1 paro yo tengo mi na, no.

Speaker 1 La que no zuelto, paro tuta zuelta. Sui, paro tuta swal, paro, paro tuta zuelta.
Ay,

Speaker 1 toraguna pichal, mami, paro, yo ma cri el la doma. Túason yo migo del paca ta la coma.
Yo va ho pa tu variola, qui el lo ta coma. Co si na la lamba muna muy ga grona.
Ay,

Speaker 1 che que a de la y pi nú paceba de hora.

Speaker 1 Porazo ni uncula ma hora. Mu uter, a tiqua ta pañña hora.
Laygo ya el loca como na ring a la puela. Vue vita la aú si un pas el tono zena.
Un locom pabo, como da y vito cam tu que ela.

Speaker 1 Y no sencien la yan, paper pero tú tienzo. Chiquitito, como si

Speaker 1 pela pela.

Speaker 1 Vamo ye balo, vamo ye balo, vamo ye palo.

Speaker 1 Mamo ye palo, a mosse ballo. Babe tu lo ace,

Speaker 1 comosi su piera.

Speaker 1 A ta tutria pey a cosi comiso, tebiera, tebiera.

Speaker 1 Bega ami madijero que tú mente maro. ¿Qué la song?

Speaker 1 To que comanda una nu ma genereración. La riga munti platino.

Speaker 1 Bad Bunny, Davey, Bumar Corse, tú sabe tuyos

Speaker 1 seguramente de tamprejuntando como locing. ¿Qué en que apreta? Ay, hey ya, hey, sera loso y pianzama.
Ay, yo ti pebiandi tambián que más. Aya que ero mása es que día ve.

Speaker 1 It's Velda, Bad Bunny, Omar Cortez, and Davey.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 That nigga Bat Bunny. What y'all doing over there? Ish.

Speaker 1 It's just.

Speaker 1 Man, ice is crazy.

Speaker 1 Bad Bonnie did it? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'll do it. That'll do it.
It'll do it. Bad Bonnie will do it.
It will do it. It will absolutely do it, man.
Alley Sand Church won't do it. Won't he do it?

Speaker 1 No, I was going to say before we got out of here, man, I want to shout out to Jamal Crawford.

Speaker 1 It was just announced

Speaker 1 that he well deserved. He officially signed with NBC Sports

Speaker 1 for broadcasting. Dope, shout out to him.
And starting October. He's going to be a brilliant mind.
Told y'all he's been killing. No, he's been killing.
Yeah. He has been.
That's very dope. Very dope.

Speaker 1 He wanted a few because a couple of them other motherfuckers. Trash.

Speaker 1 How Bubba Doug says? Trash.

Speaker 1 A couple of them motherfuckers is trash, dog.

Speaker 1 Also, I ain't going to say nothing about easy to block captain editing battle footage. Nope.

Speaker 1 Let Mark address it because he from Philly. So

Speaker 1 easy to block captains from Norristown. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Y'all following through. Come on now.

Speaker 1 If he was smoking niggas, you would hear me. Yeah, I can't work.
I don't do hypotheticals.

Speaker 1 I don't do hypotheticals. I ain't never heard that before now.
I've been saying,

Speaker 1 but he got molly-what him. I texted you.

Speaker 1 You did?

Speaker 1 And I appreciate that. Yeah, because I watched the first round.
I was like, yo, the first round, I was like, this ain't going the way he thinks it's going to go.

Speaker 1 Then the second round, I thought he was was gonna cook, and he did not.

Speaker 1 He's getting his. I was embarrassed.
It was 3-0. I was like, he did.
To me, it was 3-0.

Speaker 1 To me, it was 3-editing battle footage, fam. No comment.
Niggas was chanting 3-0. I don't think a comment is needed.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 I think if we was going to do that, I'd have edited mine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I put all that shit out of there.

Speaker 1 Do you see what them niggas did to your shit? No.

Speaker 1 They got when Hollow tells you

Speaker 1 something about the

Speaker 1 no, and do the gun and all that. And then these niggas, these niggas is amazing with the graphics.
They got a nigga walking and you start slowly transforming.

Speaker 1 These niggas take you to a bedroom where you sit down, take your clothes off. Yo, these niggas are amazing.
You know what happens.

Speaker 1 Mela asshole. And now God assists.
I'm telling you, bro.

Speaker 1 One day y'all gonna know the real real Mel. Mel is an asshole, man.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 No, I'm a sweetheart.

Speaker 1 You're not.

Speaker 1 You're not a sweetheart.

Speaker 1 You're horrible. No.
It's horrible.

Speaker 1 Hold on. A little strong.
Horrible.

Speaker 1 No, she treats us bad. And then when we do it back, it looks like the beer.

Speaker 1 It'd be two strong personalities against one. So you gotta understand.
No, I like when Mel get a shit off, man. Thank you.
Go ahead. She got a lot of shit to say.

Speaker 1 She said, yo, play that music for this nigga, this bullshit, quitting ass, play it, play it. I left all that.
I left the Chicago shit alone. I left all my thoughts.

Speaker 2 You did. I'm shocked.

Speaker 1 I left it alone. I am shocked.
But there's still a Patreon.

Speaker 1 I bad you on Fridays. Okay.
Not when Mark is here. He did say

Speaker 1 with his cape.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 you guys are ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Man, I got you, man. I'm like,

Speaker 1 man, he don't play. He finds something for me.

Speaker 1 That's funny, son. She could be dead wrong.

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, that's wrong. How you said it? I called her the phone and told her.
No, we said it on to the three of us. We was on the show.

Speaker 1 No, you softened the blow. Come on, come on, Mel.
You know that's fine. That's fire, though.
I would have done that. You know what I mean? But I got to understand what they're saying.

Speaker 1 No, nigga, you're wrong. You never said that.
I will do that. If we make a moment,

Speaker 1 If she will make amends for the cake shit, I'm not sure how much other tangible evidence that how can I make amends for the cake shit? Give everybody back their bread,

Speaker 1 prove my request,

Speaker 2 think of something else.

Speaker 1 You're wrong, Bel.

Speaker 1 Give me an alternative. Mal, give me

Speaker 1 back back.

Speaker 1 The alternative is a hundred dollar gift card to anybody around the room. Send the bread back, mal.

Speaker 1 Mal,

Speaker 1 did you see your man comment on

Speaker 1 editing the footage? What did he say? He said something to it. Tell us.
He said, respectfully, that was

Speaker 1 respectfully, that was his side chanting that. Why would we keep that in when you could watch the battle and tell he was getting fucked up?

Speaker 1 Y'all destroying battle rap brand, but not keeping it real with niggas.

Speaker 1 You got to keep the chance. That's bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he wasn't getting killed.

Speaker 1 You know what's so sad, though? I think that he thought about getting with, like, him publicizing the whole Remy shit, it hurt him more than

Speaker 1 him. It did.
And that bar wasn't fire enough. First of all, that bar wasn't fired enough.
It did. Like, he should have kept it long.
It hurt him, nigga. Hey, I got knocked out.

Speaker 1 I don't know nothing, nigga. Just keep going.
Don't play into it.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about it. He should have just left it alone because he's a talented rapper.
Because he got cooked on it. But him, in his mind, he's like, yo, I won at the end.

Speaker 1 But no, you not with the culture. You didn't win, especially with a figure like Pap.

Speaker 1 It just fucked him up.

Speaker 1 I thought about it this morning watching the show. I'm like, damn, that shit fucked Easy up.
Easy was going up here. Hello Easy Core Smack.
Call Smack. Battle.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Dars Tech. Core Beezer one of them niggas, nigga.

Speaker 1 Get rock on the stage. If I knock you out, I don't care about your alphabetical slaughter line.
Yeah, like it's just

Speaker 1 Everybody that heard what he did, nobody agreed with Easy. Yo, Rim, yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 it's a total downslope to... Yo, Rim, you love me?

Speaker 1 Yeah!

Speaker 1 That's the punch slide. He should have got hit again.

Speaker 1 He should have got hit again. This shit was trash.
And again, I feel bad with this tech because I don't have have nothing

Speaker 1 personally against him.

Speaker 1 He's talented.

Speaker 1 He's probably the best rapper ever come out of Northstown. Yeah.
Oh, that's a stat.

Speaker 1 Where's Norstown?

Speaker 1 Outside of Philly. 15 miles north of Philly.

Speaker 1 Too far to be Philly. It ain't Lower Marion.
Like Kobe. You know what I'm saying? It ain't close.

Speaker 1 A nigga won't claim Kobe. Word.
That's different. What's the difference?

Speaker 1 Kobe look across the street from Philly. Kobe, we hooped in Philly.

Speaker 1 He was a hooper. Kobe, y'all booed in that all-star game i was there yeah we boo everybody we boo the mayor we boo the kids we boo

Speaker 1 i booed a kid i booed this kid smoked a layup at halftime from the boys girls glove boy and girls club i booed him he from philly this is what we do we're booing city you boo niggas boo kids yo come on he's wide open oh mark before we go yo before we go

Speaker 1 Yo, you insane. You in that Joellen Bed fighting clip.

Speaker 1 Yo, that was funny. No, my God.
That was funny.

Speaker 1 There's context you might be missing. No, we got it all.
Yeah, pom-pom-shit. I dropped them off in the context.

Speaker 1 So, first of all,

Speaker 1 I saw that you were going to be scared. First of all, oh, shit.
Mark, why are you in that video patting Joe Ellen Bede's chest? Okay, so I wasn't patting his chest.

Speaker 1 You saw a little bit of the clip. No, we saw you.

Speaker 1 I saw you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mark, come on, yo.

Speaker 1 First of all, Mark. First of all,

Speaker 1 let me explain. They spit.
Get your little ass out the clip. First of all.

Speaker 1 They were fighting in my seat. I didn't go over there.

Speaker 1 They were fighting in front of me. They were in my seat.
You stood up out the seat and were all. He's seven feet tall.
Were you like, follow me? Are you like tall guys?

Speaker 1 First of all, my point is, I didn't go over to the scene.

Speaker 1 The scene came to you. Yeah, they took a little bit of a scene.
You just had to get in there and pass the game. First of all, I haven't been talking shit.

Speaker 1 I haven't been talking shit the whole game with Cam.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I haven't been talking shit the whole game with Cam.

Speaker 1 At that time in the game, or at that time in the season, was we were always slapping hands, doing shit. Like, it was, it was in the rhythm of the game.
It wasn't like I ran over

Speaker 1 it. Yo, we need to come up with yo, you know, it's footage.
If you watch it, I'm gonna show you, look at the whole footage and see if you feel the same way. We need to come up with clear man code.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking code shit,

Speaker 1 like a lot falls under the do's and don'ts of man code. And this is one of those things patting another nigga on the chest during a fight.

Speaker 1 A nigga that you know after the fight broke up, or a random dude.

Speaker 1 So your man outside the club fighting, you know, it's not gonna want to chest. How do you pass? No,

Speaker 1 man, they got more like y'all walk into the car, you're gonna be like, yo, yo, you got that off, Daddy.

Speaker 1 Nah, that being too freaky.

Speaker 1 I say the joke. I take the jokes.
That's how you get. You tell me somebody and you upset him.
It's just all right, my nigga. No, that's not what happened.
That's not how you did it.

Speaker 1 That's not what happened. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Hold up.

Speaker 1 Now we're getting a reenactment. Hold up.
Y'all been wearing it. I ain't gonna stand, nigga.
I'm like, you getting your own life.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Y'all are not on Mike. They're about to start bowling again.
Put your sneaker on the couch. Like a lot is going on.

Speaker 1 Right now.

Speaker 1 It's all right. Hey, boy.

Speaker 1 You did that.

Speaker 1 You found. I'm talking like a baddie.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. You did.
You did, yo.

Speaker 1 And you only follow it.

Speaker 1 Can you just sit up there looking like motherfuckers? All I need you to do is sit in your seat. Oh.

Speaker 1 You got a problem with staying in your seat, huh?

Speaker 1 I stood up.

Speaker 1 I was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was crazy out of context. That's what I tell you.
No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hopefully,

Speaker 1 you guys have enjoyed this broadcast. I did until the last 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 To the fans.

Speaker 1 As much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you,

Speaker 1 keep Mark and the rest of us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 Joy.

Speaker 1 Lord knows that we all need to be there again we are praying for everybody in los angeles yes it's going through a tough and devastating time

Speaker 1 uh until next time we bid you a due farewell adios dirtiasa la vista arvoir so long goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice remember life is a series of moments and moments pass

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Again, rest in peace to my aunt Phyllis.
I love you. Gone but not forgotten.

Speaker 1 Here with us in spirit.

Speaker 1 Until the next time, man, last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to cheat them things, grab you with Tylenol.

Speaker 1 You might need it.

Speaker 1 And that's that on that, man. Anybody got any exciting plans for the week?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. All right, Washed Gang is back.

Speaker 1 Not this one. Washed Gang is back.

Speaker 1 Mark, if you can get a sit up for the night, man, we can step out. Yo, I'll give it a try.

Speaker 1 I think that crypto dude not gonna be there, man, so we can get in our bag. Have some fun? Yeah, yeah.
We could throw some money around instead of stacking. You outside tonight, let me know.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I gotta make up for Saturday. Hey.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Come on back out, Flip. I'll text you, but let's get it.
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 1 You threw your whole stack? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He hyped me, too. He like, if a nigga owe here, he said in front of, yo, he owe Holly money and he won't even throw it.
She looking like that.

Speaker 1 He like that. He fouled.
I threw the whole shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, Holly money and want to stay in there and hold the stack. Nigga, if you don't get rid of this fucking stack, stop embarrassing me anyway.

Speaker 1 Dialed you down, nigga. No, you did.
We had a good time out there. Yeah, it was nice being outside.
You know, I feel comfortable. That's why I don't want to go because I don't want to embarrass you.

Speaker 1 You're my man. Thank you.
You press it, though.

Speaker 1 You know, we go to that person, rent money up. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're getting the rent money now. Come on, come on out.

Speaker 1 It was somebody. Nah, I'll tell you, I off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mel, what's up? You got any exciting plans for the week? Or are you just recovering from Chicago?

Speaker 1 I almost lost it.

Speaker 1 I'm recovered.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to be working.

Speaker 1 But she was in Chicago for a second. Oh, shit.
Yeah. Yeah, she was in Chicago to Chicago last night.
You had fun? Yeah. Was it cold out there?

Speaker 2 It was very cold.

Speaker 1 Did you go to the museum of what's his nigga name? Al Capone? No, I did not. Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 He got his best behavior right there. Were.

Speaker 1 Mel went and did her fucking event and went right back to the double tree, man.

Speaker 1 Waldorf. She stayed at a double tree.
Oh, Waldorf got a double tree? Come on.

Speaker 1 I had a double tree. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I'm supposed to stop playing with Melissa Ford, nigga. You don't stay at the Dreams.
It's over.

Speaker 1 She'll stay at the highest, nigga.

Speaker 1 She'll stay the highest emotion. She'll be standing high if niggas give up at the end of the flight, nigga.
She'll stay there.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. We'll give you the room closest to the electron.

Speaker 1 We'll give you the room right there from the elevator. You flew first class, Mel? That's like the exit row, first class? Male, I ain't gonna lie.
First class class or exit row? I was one F.

Speaker 1 All male do is lie. You can't.
All you guys are being ridiculous. Yo, all she does is lie.

Speaker 1 You guys are being ridiculous. We are.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 All right, any jokes I need to get off on your own thing, sir. I think we did it.

Speaker 1 This nigga's stupid.

Speaker 1 I didn't say nothing. I didn't say nothing.
I said, yo, Ice.

Speaker 1 I didn't say nothing to you, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm pointing the fucking painting, nigga.

Speaker 1 They have that in the hotel that Mel stayed at, nigga.

Speaker 1 If he snuffed you and don't break the tables, I'm gonna laugh.

Speaker 1 If he breaks the tables. If he snuffed me and you don't stop, I'm snuffing you, nigga.
Then Corey's gonna have to jump in, nigga. We're gonna have a rumble here.
I got a whole plan.

Speaker 1 And I plan on breaking that table. Before I leave, I'm gonna break that table.

Speaker 1 I got a whole plan.

Speaker 1 I don't need nobody to jump in. XJO for jumping on that table, nigga.
I gotta. I'm just letting you know that in the event that you snuff me, I don't want nobody to jump in.
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 I could take a hit. You can, you can.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna fight. I ain't gonna fall.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 You challenged me before I side. I don't want no problems.
I'm not gonna fall. You up in the challenge.

Speaker 1 I don't snuff you.

Speaker 1 Huh? What was the challenge? I don't remember. Nigga called me out to fight out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Niggas say, yo, we call outside. Niggas say, yo, Paul, hold up.
I don't air, nigga. You said you gotta be a bad man.
That beat saved all that. They got out.
It did deserve bad. Hold on, stop.

Speaker 1 They got I was recording myself. I believe it.
Because them niggas, they got I was recording for my future evidence.

Speaker 1 Savon and Sandy got the audio. Nigga said, yo, we go outside right now, nigga.
I couldn't believe Joe. Wow.
Shocked me, nigga. It's just like this.

Speaker 1 And the nigga Imani, oh, sometimes niggas got to fight. Yeah, that's a boy ball of you, nigga.
You ain't promote peace.

Speaker 1 That's not even what happened, but that's your inertia. He did say that.
Sometimes niggas got to go fight. Oh, I heard that.
No, I ain't told what I'm talking about. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's it, it is.

Speaker 1 listen, hopefully, y'all enjoyed this part, man. Let's end with a bang.

Speaker 1 What is the dog? Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, get out of here. That is not how I'm ending.
The fuck you talking about? Look at me, all in my phone.

Speaker 1 All in my phone.

Speaker 1 She is all that in my phone.

Speaker 1 Maybe not him no more.

Speaker 1 Imagine you live in LA with your boyfriend.

Speaker 1 Fucking go. Everything's going amazing.
Run it up.

Speaker 1 Have a good time for the love of your wife that wants a future with you because he said so. So you set a month and ship to arrive, and then another month moving in and building furniture and stuff.

Speaker 1 And you're so happy

Speaker 1 from a family vacation. Sits on your couch, which just turned in the mail and hands you a note.

Speaker 1 Does she get the little double in there? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How did I not know this?

Speaker 1 This whole time, three and a half years is happiness. We've been incompatible this whole time and I've had nothing in common.
For three and a half years,

Speaker 1 I noticed

Speaker 1 killing.

Speaker 1 This whole time we have nothing in common. See you back with your birth wherever you can spend it, just getting your money store to be a tagging for you.

Speaker 1 And then you drive to Florida to live with each other.

Speaker 1 Def Jam about to give up 10 million.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP. Where would you be without JBP?

Speaker 1 Niggas say, shit, why would he do that to her?

Speaker 1 He just realized they ain't had nothing in common. No, but do it and don't do it when we move.
Well, that's what he learned. That's when I caught it.
You know what I mean? I didn't know.

Speaker 1 I didn't fucked up.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 I'll end with this. On a recent pod, we was talking about faking nuts.
Oh, I saw.

Speaker 1 Shit like this just makes me think of faking cheating.

Speaker 1 Because that should be an easier way to get out than all of this.

Speaker 1 And you let her leave thinking that, oh my God, I have boundaries. I'm not going to do this with you.
You can't fuck it. Just fake the cheat, man.

Speaker 1 The long road trip, she quit her job.

Speaker 1 She might not have it to be a job. I broke the show.
She quitting half a year. She quit money to go back to Texas.
She quit her improv group.

Speaker 1 And she took half of her savings to move them to motherfucking Texas. All the ways that I've had a girl break up with me, like tricked her into breaking up with me, I never thought

Speaker 1 of the fake the cheat.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. You're a devious person.
No, I actually did the cheat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but fake it. So that when the breakup happens, you can still sleep at night knowing that you did the right thing.
Nike.

Speaker 1 goodbye, guys.

Speaker 1 Goodbye.