Episode 792 | “Best & Final”

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This is a Patreon exclusive, nigga.

Hey.

No, it's not.

I just lied.

Let me just,

I'm trying to get some out.

My nigga got the

Michael Jackson shades.

What's that shit he did

at the motherfucking,

the Super Bowl?

Yeah, nigga.

You look good, son.

Yeah, I like them shades. Yes, we're on, if that's what you're asking.
Yeah. I like son Yeah I like them shades

Yes we're on

If that's what you're asking

Yeah

I like them

I like them

You got the gold shit too

What's that

It's gold plated

That shit's just fly

Nigga gold member

Some nice Avis

I don't see how they look on cam

They look good

They look good

They look good y'all

Thank you

Blended well nigga

Like some tenant dumber shits

Yeah

Yo you doing

Who you talking

Yeah come on

Yeah she had the text

Levels the levels

Levels the levels

I'm not going to be able to do that. Like some tenant dumber shits.
Yo, you doing? Who you talking?

Yeah, come on.

Yeah, she had the text now. Levels, levels, levels.

Mel tried to send a voice note around me.

Don't do that.

I hate voice noters, yo.

Don't voice note around me.

Yo, hand me my tank top.

She didn't know how to say anything.

Yo, yo.

She didn't know how to press select and delete the whole thing.

So Mel pressing her thumb.

Why not delete his whole year? She deleted it. She got nervous.
Mel, what's up? How you doing? I'm chilling. How are you? You look expensive.
Thank you. Louis Vuitton from head to toe.
No, these are Bottega. Oh, my bad.
Still looks expensive. I think that would have been too tacky.
really? Yeah head to toe Louie and I That is a nice little suit What is that called? Alright come on Go ahead I'm not stepping on you It's nice I'm complimenting you I don't know what it's called. Dude compliments don't.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. I woke up.
I had some other shit on, but then I was like, eh. It was Friday.
I had him with the Louis Cashmere Dickie suit. You got it? You look nice, too.
You got the ash black. Thank you.
You got the ash black. I washed my shit a couple times.

You act like you washed it, but you made it like that.

Yeah.

You didn't give me a pal?

Yeah.

You look good.

I'm happy to see y'all.

I'm happy to see y'all too.

Yeah, man.

Gang, gang. For sure.

Yeah.

How y'all feeling?

Yeah, what's the vibe?

Tell me the temperament before this starts. I would like to have a fun time today.
Yeah, but you know what type of vibe we on today, too. Damn.
Fun. We can't have fun.
Ask Freeze. I'll come up with what I think after you and Freeze talk.
I don't think it's going to be fun. No? Nah.
Why? What happened? We can have some fun. I'm sad, man.
Why? Same. I'm sad.
Lossus got y'all sad? I'm man. Yo, you gotta pay attention to Freeze.
When Freeze walking with some different type of sneakers, it's just a regular... What are you talking about? It's a sad day.
That's how you usually go grocery shopping. Yeah, shit.
That's some regular shit on, bro. He's ready to be professional today.
Listen. Some regular shit.
The diagram of what's going on, he ready to go in his back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Today's Freeze Day. Pay attention to his sneakers.
I'm sad, bro.

We know.

I'm with Freeze, dog.

Joe said the same thing over there in the corner.

I'm sad.

I'm hurt.

Y'all see, I wasn't talking much.

I'm disappointed.

I came here and just sat down.

I was just sitting here.

You got your iPad and shit.

Yeah, bro.

Playing Roblox.

Worse.

Hoping some of the shit I was reading was, I was waiting for the joke to drop.

Ah, yeah, we playing.

Shot through the heart.

I can't wait to hear you guys' stance. I love this shit too much, man.
I mean, I feel you, but let's make fun of it instead of being sad about it. I spent half my 2024 making fun of it.
That's the problem with being ahead of things sometimes. Yeah.
I've been questioning all of this shit for mad long. That's the other reason I'm sad a little bit.
Like, this is like the finale to my views right now. Yeah, yeah.
Damn, man. Like, this is an entire closed chapter that played out.
Damn. Like, I've just been reminiscing.
When I first got introduced to this nigga's music during the MySpace days, I'm in the car like, damn, MySpace.

I put the playlist on.

Oh, shit, that was old school Charlene.

Look, back in his bag.

Back in his bag.

Oh, my God, it's sad, man.

I put a little playlist on, too.

Damn, did you?

Hmm?

Yeah.

To remember the good times?

Yeah. I think it gave us some joints.
And my no, my new podcast arc has been, you're the Drake hater. That's true.
But the people that know, like, damn, man, it's over for my man. That's that my, that guy.
I mean, we're jumping ahead, but you can't listen to the old shit no more? It's not the same. It's not the same That's the problem.
He's stepping on his own dope. That's the problem.
He's stepping on his, he's cutting his own shit. Like, he's having too much of an impact on his own fall off from his style of jumping.
Like this is, this, this, this, God damn it. This shit says harassment parks.
Yeah, I know. As somebody who just went through something with harassment, it's like, oh, you got extra Karen-y.
It's like, no, no. Some Karen's out there in the world, my friend.
Yeah, but then that's hip-hop fault. That's the label's fault.
Everybody play a part. It's the fans' fault.
It's just sad. It is.
I'm so sad. I was contemplating coming in here and not talking about it at all.
Honestly. Like, I was going to let y'all just, and I'm not, still might.
I was going to let y'all have it. I don't need the blogs clipping me up.
Like, how do I personally feel about it? I want to be able to personally feel about it, but I'm hurt like it's me. I'm hurt like it's me in the suit, nigga.
That nigga was, you know, God. Nigga, Paris Morton music.
The fuck are you talking about, nigga? I remember the first time I started hearing these songs. It's like, yo, dog, man, let the legacy be the legacy.

Like, at what point does PR come in?

At what point do you factor in how you look

and the effect this has on your fans

that ain't just these new streamers

that since you've been pandering all of them niggas?

I ain't talking about that.

I'm talking about back in the day

when the bitches was quoting niggas. Come on, my God.
So far gone. For years, you put it on.
Stop playing with me down the highway. Oh.
I'm in Rambo. Whatever.
Early. Well, I'm shutting up later, man.
I can't believe this. How's everybody else doing? Ish? I'm great.
Yourself? I'm doing well. A little under the weather, but I'm cool.
Yeah, you sound a little stuffy It's alright though You clear up You gave me Who walks around with Sudafed In they bag yo People with Science issues Yeah Like yo Got it I got some A whole pack A whole pack They got a whole pack Of the 12 hour joints The over the counter joints That don't do Nah the shit you gotta get the pharmacy shit. He had them in his bag.

The meth shit.

The meth shit, yeah.

But why you come to work

sounding like that?

You sound,

your sick voice ain't,

right.

He's saying your sick voice

ain't sexy.

It ain't like yours, yo.

I don't think my normal voice

is sexy on a microphone,

so this might be an improvement.

How about on the phones?

Nah.

That's a microphone.

Nah, that's good.

So no girl's ever said to you. Yeah, they frontin'.
I don't believe them. If they said it, they lying.
You can't get eyes and a voice. All right.
You can't get eyes and a voice. You gotta pick something at the fucking dick dealership.
You know? Idiot. Right? You gotta get sunroofed or leather.
Now some niggas walk in that dick dealership with that cash on they come out with shit they start bugging me listen I'll take what you got I don't even know what I got I got some off the counter you got some off the menu shit this guy's stupid oh alright what's up certified pre-owned you ain't designed it Come on I went in there and picked rough around edges Listen, don't do that You got a nice voice Especially for broadcasting Well, that's what I'm saying. From years of shame, regrets, and angel dust.

Cigarettes, drugs.

Like, you can get the voice, but do you want the life?

Do you want to do what it takes to get the voice?

Yeah, you got to be careful what you ask for.

Gotcha.

That's true.

Oh, man.

Mel, you look great.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

How you feeling, Flip?

I feel well.

I feel great.

Thank you. That's good to hear.
Yeah. Feeling good lately.
Trying to figure things out. Sure.
You know, navigate through the trenches, you know. You got them doing construction in the sleepover room? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You want to put some walls up in there and shit? Nah, I'm not putting no walls. I'm just, you know, safety.
They just sleeping in a dorm? We'll see. Fuck dorm Fuck this ain't the army That shit is not the army

Army is a step up

That shit is hell Drop them niggas in the jail dorms No Worse in the

comment shop

me too

oh my god

fuck I'm in shock. Me too.
God. Fuck.
I'm in shock too. Big JetBlue.
We in our bag today. She got the JetBlue pouch.
Remember that jet blue pouch? They smell so old. Where they put the headphones in.
Mel, you take the airplane pouches with you home? No, that's my case for my readers.

You got a JetBlue case for your readers?

No, it's ****.

I love slavery.

****.

All right.

Okay.

You know what I'm talking about, though, Joe? That was a nice little ad.

Good shit.

No, no, no.

Until they gave me some fucking money.

No, fuck that.

Block their name out.

Well, shout somebody else out.

I will not.

She got ass shit off tools.

And you can bleep that shit out, too. Shout out, Harrington.
Yeah. Yeah, we shout out, man.
That's it. I'm in shock.
Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two.
Everybody get their mic check on. Yeah.
Y'all good? Check, check, check. Yeah.
You heard, man. Mic check, mic.
You heard me. Okay.
Let's go. So if you rebuke me for working with someone else on a couple of V's, what are you really thinking of a nigga that's making your peace? I've done things for him I thought that he never would need.
Father had to stretch his hands out and get it from me. I popped style for 30 hours then let him repeat.
Now you popping up with the jokes, I'm dead, I'm asleep. I just left him over by y'all putting pen to the sheets.
I'm tired of sitting quiet. Outro Music Don't push me when I'm in album mode You're not even top five as far as your label Always for the ladies, always for the ladies But I bring calicos to the Alamo I could never have a Virgil in my circle And hold him back cause he makes me nervous I wanna see my brothers flourish to their higher purpose You niggas lead you to serpents I think it's good and now the teachers are learning Your brother said it was your cousin and him and you So you don't rap what you did, you just rap what you knew Don't be ashamed, there's plenty niggas that do what you do There's no malice in your heart, you an approachable dude Yo, I never heard that before For real? You never heard that? Damn This boy? Sheesh That nigga's really sad.

Look at these niggas. Nigga, this isn't a big deal.

What's the name of that song?

Duffy. Duffy Freestyle.

Damn.

Man, you might have sold a college kids

for Nike and Mercedes, but you act like you sold

drugs for Escobar in the 80s. I had a

microphone of yours, but then the signature faded.

I think that pretty much resembles what's been happening

lately. Please believe your demise would be televised.
Yeah. And as for Q, man, I changed his life a couple times Nigga was at Kroger working double time Y'all like me like he made the boy when I was trying to help the guy Who asked you to play with me? Man, you made this shit as easy as ABC's Whoever's supposedly making me hits But ain't got no hits, sound like they need me My hooks did it, my lyrics did it, my spirit did it, I'm fearless with it, yeah

I really shouldn't have given you none of my time, cause you older than a nigga you running behind

Look, holla at me when you multi-million, I told you keep playing with my name

And I'ma let it ring on you like Virginia Williams, I'm too resilient, get out your feelings

It's gonna be a cool summer for you, I told and baby I'm a gunna for you Tell Ye we got an invoice comin' to you Considerin' that we just sold another 20 for you Yeah, all you self promoters are janky We established like the Yankees This whole fuckin' game thank We moving militant but somehow you the one tanking No limit to where I could take it And you know me as a crisp bottle sender Check pick up I thought we looked out for one another So I saw his brothers in a struggle too blessed to be humble I guess it's different in a city I come from All of a sudden I got people who are not much They truly resent me They hold demeanor dispels envy they tryna tip me The higher I get, the less they accept me Even had the OGs tryna press me, ha ha ha ha No way out cause I'm already in it I'm not attending when I do a show and get a ticket Good business can clean millions, I got division Y'all good, y'all good, y'all good, y'all good Y'all look focused Even back when I wasn't as poppin' When they told me take a R&B nigga on the road

And I told him no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky

I tried to make the right choices with the world watchin'

Mike never tried to rap like Pac

Pac never tried to sing like Mike

Those my dad's words to me when I asked him

He get in life

And all he took it, my mother gave the greatest advice

Look at me now, they look at me like the golden child

Can't nobody hold me now

Especially not right now

Certain shit is just too wild

the Look at me now, they looking me like the golden child Can't nobody hold me now Especially not right now Certain shit is just too wild to reconcile Take that, take that, no love in they heart, so they fake that DiCaprio level the way they play that Damn nigga, what is that? Y'all don't hear that song, they hit my phone like you did that You didn't hit my line, but you been at it It's always on some shit like when can I get a favor? Where my bitch at? Like I'm about to tell you where she been at. Costa Correa's, I got her kidnapped.
She ain't sorry and I ain't sorry. It's too late for sorry.
Green, white, and red on my body because I'm dipped in Ferrari. All she want to do is get high and listen to party.
She complain, I tell the driver to drop at Barney's. My summer diet is just Rosé and Calamari.
Look, now you got me started. I'm the black sheep.
Rest in peace to Chris Farley. I got a lot to lose, because in every situation, I'm the bigger artist.
Always got to play it smarter. Y'all shook up.
I'm here on the cook up. Cameras pointed every time I look up.
That's why I got a duck behind Chubb. Shoulder just to hit the kush up.
Sponsorship dollars are sky high. He be like, Drake, will you please stop smoking? La la.
Chubb's why I try. I'm a thug.
I'm a die hot Got the rose pink tinted lenses, it's a Wednesday Architects taking dimensions, they redoing the entrance Yeah, redoing the entrance Kinda like when you niggas drop on some again and again shit And you still never quite get it Me and I'm Drizzy over there, tryna make you make a dance to this Yeah, I make you dance to this I roll big body, wide body Calabasas roll wind up Sunshine and wax tires See Kris Jenner, I beep twice and I wave the rest Come on, man, it's Chris, hey, beep, beep Hey, Chris, I said it two times There go Kris Jenner right there in the morning Getting some Starbucks Kris Jenner with the A, beep See Kris Jenner, I beep twice and I. The rest of you boys, I blow keeks right in your face.
Pistol by my bed, I'm asleep, but I'm awake for that one night when niggas try to reach inside my safe. Don't push me, cause I'm way too uneasy nowadays.
These guys move so greasy now. He thought he was uneasy then.
I tell you my life and y'all don't believe me when I say it. Save my stories for down the line.
I'm too ahead of the curve Every time, it's totally easy See. Oh man, I never heard that before neither.
Really? Oh, you didn't have SoundCloud. He got Apple Music late.
Oh, that's true. He didn't just get Apple Music, so SoundCloud is 4 p.m.
in Calabasas. This is a great.

Microphone check.

One, two, one.

What is this?

Another daddy.

What's that?

What's that?

What's that?

What's that?

You're ice. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh and ice. Flip and Mel.
Mel, Mel, Mel. What episode is this? 792.
Welcome to episode 792 of the Joe Budden Podcast, brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, PrizePix, PrizePix gang. Yeah.
I am your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right.

You know her name.

You know the vibe.

You know her body.

Big Melissa for M4.

Who do you?

Who do you?

How you doing, Mel?

I'm great.

Fabulous.

Love to be here.

Good, good.

Next to her, Queen Flip.

What happened?

Yo, you're so dumb, man.

Next to her, Queen Flip.

Queens get the money.

You know what time it is. How you doing? I'm good, you know, in the building.
Good. I ain't going to say all Next to her, Queens Flip.
Queens Get the Money. You know what time it is.

How you doing?

I'm good, you know, in the building.

Good.

I ain't going to say all that extra shit, but yeah.

No, we'll get her later.

That was extra.

We'll get her later.

Next to Flip.

Come on, King Wawa.

It shit's in the building.

Nigga like charcoal.

Nigga, let's get it.

A little under the weather, but he's here.

Yeah, he is.

Team player.

He is here, and I commend you.

I commend you. I commend you.

I didn't think you would come.

I didn't think you would come.

Because this is your man.

You got to be heard like me.

You got to be heard like me.

That's not my man.

Well, up here we think that's your man.

Yeah, up here that's your man.

The narrative of that shit.

Yeah, we think that's your man.

So I was like, damn, you got to come in and speak to some of this shit. You don't care? Nah.
No. You may look at it different from how everybody else look at it, right, Ish? It's just a man, yo.
We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it.
I can't. Yeah, man.
Wow. Next to him, Elizabeth Finest.
The freeziest of them all. Big ice is in the building.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Took that Ravens gear off.
Took that shit right off. Fast.
What'd you do with it? The bet was over. It's in a dog cage.
The shirt. Oh, my Lord.
Where's the hat? Threw it out. Oh, okay.
And last but certainly not least, big, big parks is in the building. Elmira's finest.
What's poppin'? Engineer to them all. Also, Corey is here.
Poe is here. Erickson is here.
Keeb is here. Ian is here.
Savon and Tanner here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. Come on, someone read these charges.
Come on, let's get to it. Let's get to it.
I don't want to waste any time straight to it nigga what are the what's in the suit

we left

he dropped the suit

against

UMG

and Spotify

no the

it wasn't a suit

it was a

petition

I mean the petition

and there was some

wording in there

listen I'm not fat guy

somebody pull this shit up

cause I'm

I'm about to cry

alright

I am uneasy today

I'm way too uneasy

nowadays

yeah this is like

the hip hop I love

I love has fucking got, it's just gone now. It's gone.
Hip-hop might be dead. I mean, it's dead.
Nas was early. I just feel like when Third Base was out, and when MC Hammer was out, and Kwame and Kid and Play and that era and I was in my bag and my uncles and my older cousins would come over and just

be like disgusted.

It's like, oh, look what they did.

Look what they're doing to fuck it.

I'm like, shut up, old guy.

Like, I feel like that guy.

Like, whatever it is, it's they got it, dog. We doing this for diss tracks? Disgusting.
It's nasty, man. Like we said, he dropped the petition and has now filed the defamation and harassment suit.
The interesting thing in there was UMG's position, which is Spotify was like, all right, we agree, go ahead. And UMG was like, eh, we reserve our same position.
We not copping or nothing. Whatever you're doing, you just go do it.
You know what time it is with us. That was interesting.
And I've been saying forever that. I mean, I guess now so much has just come to light right like how long have they been beefing for a while I'm sure what is that I think what does it look like and when can you identify it in his career I would identify it around certified lover boy when he started putting out leak record as album I think that's Scorpion I Scorpion.
I was always saying, you can hear it.

That's the same thing I always say.

Right after Scorpion is where it just.

After Scorpion.

It wouldn't Certified Loverboy be the next album?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Next, no.

Not next.

He did projects after that.

Yeah, he did Dark Demo Lane.

But all of that, to me, just.

Yeah, that's all the same conversation I'm having,

where he started just putting out leak records and demos and freestyles. Throwaways.
Throwaways as albums. For lack of a better term.
Yeah. Yeah, there was something there where it's like I'm not giving y'all my top tier work no more.
Yeah. We've beefing over something, whatever it is, whether, you know, I want a bigger deal.
I'm holding out and negotiate.

Whatever it could be.

Wasn't coincidentally that around the same time that he got that outrageous,

whatever that was, half a billion dollar deal or something like that?

Wasn't that in that same ballpark?

I think it was post-Scorpion.

It's when I came on the pod.

Yeah.

What year was Scorpion?

2018, I want to say.

Let's put this in so we can get this in time order.

2018, I believe. And he got 400 from UMG In like 19 In like 2019 Checks The deal was 2022 The 400 million dollar Yeah right there So yeah it could have been Maybe I wasn't happy with that deal.
What did you say?

No, they paid him. Or we don't know the particulars of the deal.
We don't know shit. You know what I'm saying? I ain't here to pretend I do.
Yeah, because it could be something bigger than just the bread. You know what I mean? It could be some other shit.
Definitely something bigger than the bread. Well, I've got UMG's response.
Well, real quick, I remember when Joe came up here and he was saying that. I remember when Joe came up here and he was saying that

Drake is traveling too much or touring too much, if you remember that. You know, Joe, like, you're not even getting any rest.
You're not resting. You know what I mean? You said that you have some issues with you personally.
You're not resting. Something is going on.
You know what I mean? That's something that stick out to me when I look at these complaints

and look at the unhappiness.

And it was the rumblings when all those projects were coming out

that, all right, he's trying to speed through a contract.

He's unhappy.

He's something.

He's working on something.

But again, who knows?

Yeah, we don't know.

We don't know.

But I just want to track it artistically as well.

That's all.

Artistically, for me, it was after Scorpion.

I'm going to track it artistically as well. That's all.
Artistically for me, it was after Scorpion. I'm with y'all.
But go ahead. Yeah, right after Scorpion.
That's where you can hear the difference. And I'm with you.
I do think it was throwaways. Yeah, I think he did the shit on purpose.
Just my A1 work that I have, I'm keeping it for whatever, whether it be post deal or independent,

whatever the case may be.

Y'all not getting this right now.

But I still have contractual obligations,

so I'm not doing

a complete stoppage.

I think that's a mistake.

The shit he said to Shorty.

It's a mistake.

The shit he said to Shorty.

Which part?

Bobby?

Johnny Blaze, right?

Wasn't that her?

He was like,

yo, I got,

you know what I'm saying,

I'm on tour, I got to get out of this bullshit deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think he really feels like that.
I think that was, he was talking about the touring deal. I'm just saying, but.
Rock Nation. I think that whatever his.
Or not Rock Nation, Live Nation. Whatever his circumstances are, I think he has, I think he's got a peek into the other side.
Again, this is money above our pay grade.

I just think that he's gotten a peek into the other side.

And the shit that other people would be happy for,

he may not necessarily be happy for.

Because I'm generating y'all niggas way, way, way more money than y'all giving me.

Now I want more.

And y'all might be looking at me like an artist that shut up and dribbled.

But he might not want to.

Ish, what's way more money, right?

If somebody gives you $400,000 and you make them a billion. If they give you $400 million

and you make them $5 billion,

then...

It has to be that wide of a margin.

Because what I'm saying is that if you get

$400 million and you make

a billion, they're just breaking...

But that's that deal. I've made y'all billions

before this deal.

Yeah, didn't we come up with a figure up here?

You get what I'm saying?

That deal, that $400 million deal

I love you. deal.
I've made y'all billions before this deal. Didn't we come up with a figure up here?

You know what I'm saying?

That deal, that $400 million deal came before

Certified Loverboy and all that.

Look at his catalog before that.

I've been major. We pass

a B. That's the shit we were talking about with Michael Jordan.

Yes. Michael Jordan got

$25 million, $30 million in the last

two years, but look at the money that Chicago Bulls have generated. Look at the city of Chicago and the money they generated.
Look at fucking selling Pepsi's in the league. The league, dog.
When you go buy Laker tickets right now, I looked at Laker tickets to go to the DC game. Dog, Laker tickets be higher than every other ticket.
So you got to kind of contribute some of that bread to LeBron and them, even though it ain't necessarily in LA. Any city we go to, we generating revenue around, you know what I mean? Like Floyd said that.
Floyd was like, yo, when I fight, the cabs, the hotels, the fucking casinos, everybody benefits off of me fighting. Right.
So for a nigga to feel like they didn't get their just due, they might be right. Could be.
Could be. What are some of the complaints that the charges that Drake accused UMG of doing? And while you do that, I just want to add.
He is the one that throughout multiple songs was telling you for years about why he could never go independent. He was the one for years telling you how great of a relationship that he had with Lucien and Universal.
He has thrown his status in every artist's face. That's true.
To say, I am in a different position. Yeah.
The game is the game, and no, you are not. There is nobody that we've seen or that I can think of that has proved to ever be bigger than the system.
And when you volunteer to play in that system In any field, by the way. You have, there are the same way you generated numbers, the same way you generated streams, there are expectations, quotas and money being spent on you.
You have been the proof of concept for their... Matrix.
For where the game was with their... He's been the streaming baby.
Yeah. He's been the proof of concept for Apple, Spotify, and the labels in terms of streaming.
Correct. When the music business was in a disarray before streaming.
Mm-hmm. So this dates back to the Napster fight to me.
Ooh. So don't ever think as proof of concept that it's all you, right? Like, and that's the difference for me and some of the examples I heard you say.
With Floyd, there came a day where he knew it was all him. It's all me.
The rest of y'all can eat, the town can eat, Vegas can eat, and he get those perks in Vegas. They treat him like, hey, open up the stores.
The difference between the boxing or NBA analogy and the music analogy is that when the Lakers are playing whoever, the Knicks, right, that game is happening right now, and that's the game. When Drake is putting out music, all of the games in the history of music are happening at the same time.
It's not quite the same. I was just giving it.
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. To your point, but if I put up 16 championships, I think, like you said the other day, everybody thinks they're the man, and they're the last to get to know that they may not be the man no more.
I'm not saying he's not the man no more, but if he ain't, he going to be the last nigga to know it. Maybe true.
So when you go into office now that treated you like royalty for the last decade, and now they're talking to you a little differently, you might feel some type of way. So you feel like he might have had a stronger position maybe five years ago? I think so.
He would have had a stronger position. And I think they might've sold him a bridge.

Even if they was bullshitting with him,

they sold him on,

yo,

you,

him,

me and you,

baby,

we,

we gonna be big.

We gonna be the biggest.

But he was in the bridge business.

He was out looking for a bridge.

That's back to my,

my point about independence.

And again,

you sound crazy and,

or you sounded crazy talking about that with the biggest dream artists in the

universe.

But this is why,

Thank you. There was a period where all of that 3 a.m.
spooky time, the countdown shit, whatever he was doing, where he could press a button. The world stopped.
Yeah, but bigger than that, how we distributed music changed. Yeah.
So we talked about it for years up here. It didn't cost you any more to make a song and put it out.
There's no overhead. There's no radio fees.
There's no this fees. There's no storage fees.
There's no vinyl. It's you now.
Yeah. It's not just you were the man on the music tip.

We were at the precipice of a change to where somebody that had leverage and could dictate it could dictate it.

And that's why I was running around saying this boy is the one right here. But who is the somebody that you're referring to?

Drake?

Yeah, for me.

Okay.

No, I was asking.

I didn't know if you were talking about Drake or the lady.

No, I'm talking about Aubrey. To your example, though, when there was times where he would upload in the middle of the night, scary hours, excuse me, all of that, and like you said, the world would stop.
Yeah. I think the label saw that.
So part of the deal is you can't do that no more. But that's part of the deal is just like we know other artists that, like I I said can't put a freestyle out now because of what they

signed the label now understands

that it's not just about

an iTunes or

now your value is

also in what you upload on

Instagram with any anytime you

put your voice on any beat there's some value

there and the labels are now signing that

too I want to control it

okay but what's

consistent for me with

him now is

Let's go. there and the labels are now signing that too.
I want to control it. Okay, but what's consistent for me with him now is i.e.
in the Kendrick battle I harped on or focused on his inability to view that long term. Yeah.
Like he focused on what was directly in front of him with these 20 people, ignored the real threat, didn't see the real game that was being played and ultimately fell victim. Let me land.
Let me land. Let me land.
No, I agree with you a thousand percent. I disagree.
The same way in this deal, you have to know that if you are the only person that these labels are offering 400, 500, 600, 700, whatever the number is, you're the only person, then that means you have to ask yourself, why? And it can't just be, hey, I made them so much money or I'm so fly. It can't be that.
You can't be that self-centered because had he gotten a real answer, which is because if you walk away from us and with all your power and are independent, it's over for the hierarchy. Why do you think he hasn't come to that realization? He might have come to that realization.
But too late though. No, I don't think that.
When are you talking about? When? In the last four years or so. I'm speaking this way because you took deal after deal after deal.
Like today, Kanye has come to whatever realization he needed to. That's after a history of signing amendment, amendment, amendment.
You get your info how you get your info. Sure.
But he steady took the money, took the money, took the money, and now he's not in the position anymore, which is part of the label's argument. And you are on the downside.
And you think you him, but you are negating that we made you him. And the same way this team won a championship, hey, when you retire, it's going to be the organization's job to put another championship team on the floor.
They don't give a fuck. Go pull up the clips of how he spoke and how Lucian spoke.
The niggas was like the two ones in 11. I'm agreeing with you.
I think that it's one, I'm sorry, go ahead. I think the one small difference is this.
I think that, especially we're going to keep rolling with the sport analogy. Father Tom takes wins, all battles.
Physically. When you are creating something and it's coming from your brain, Father Tom may not play as an important role.
I think that he thinks, dog, I can do this all day. And I think you're wrong.
Not you. So I think that he threw them niggas to throwaways.
I heard they got albums in the tuck. Fire is what I heard.
He got albums in the tuck. And I think he don't want to get albums to Universal.
I think he's trying to figure a way to sever ties with them. And I got all these albums over here in the tuck and now I'm going to tell y'all niggas to suck my dick when I release them.
He might be looking for his Kanye out. That's what I was going to say with the Kanye example.
He might be looking for the Kanye out. Kanye still was able to come out with a number one album, number one single, without them.
Without radio play, without any of that. Once y'all all stopped fucking with me, I still managed to get back up here.
He did. Independently.
Independently. Yes, I don't understand.
That's what I'm saying. No, I think that's his out.
I think his out is, you're saying he played the card too late. I don't think he thinks that.
I think he's trying to find his Kanye route. I'm going to leave you niggas alone, and then I'm going to hit the world with whatever I hit the world with.
Directed consumer or whatever the case may be. Okay, but I want to be in my opinion because this is all subjective.
We don't know shit. Drake is not in the same ballpark as Kanye West.
Drake has not proven across the board that he can move units, hardware, people, anything across. Drake is proven in music.
A lot easier to be independent when you got that fucking Yeezy sneaker money. Yeah, the Kanye brand, just that Yeezy brand, him, he curated that over years.
You are right. Drake has been, and this is back to our, he's been the system baby.
So we don't know that, we don't know. We've never seen him do it.
He don't know, but I would think that he would be confident enough to think that I could, or arrogant enough to think that I could. I have the same way I told Kanye.
But I ain't seen it. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say.
The same way I told Kanye, hey, dog, I believe you're independent when you really start taking that Adidas money and buying your own warehouses and your own factories and your own, you got to reinvest in the business. I say it all the time.
I have yet to see that from Drake. My thing with- Let me land.
He got all the money in the world. He does.
He has all the resources in the world. Albums and to get songs popping and moving costs money.
I'm not sure that he know how much. Probably don't.
I'm not sure he know how much Universal has spent on making some of these songs stick. But if you know music, today, he's having a hard time making something stick.
And that's not because he lost talent. It's not that.
It's not because he lost talent. No, I don't believe that.
He's still him. But without that label and without that button that they push, he's dropped joints that some people feel could go.
I was just watching. Somebody I was watching, they was talking about, yeah, man, they started naming records.
These records should have went. Hey, if this was five years ago, this record would be a top 20 record.
Guess what, Playboy? It's not anymore. It's not five years ago.
And there is a reason. I know you're fans, so you're like, oh, why is this not good? You don't know shit about shit.
This shit is designed and programmed. I'm a great guy.
Look, with Drake, with the Drake brand, it really leads more to the label is kind of more important than he's putting credit on. Because look at the things he's done outside of the label.
The Nocta Nike brand, it ain't take off like Kanye shit did. Nothing.
The OVO Jordans ain't take off like that. The OVO label.
The OVO label. Yeah.
Respectfully. Everything that you've done outside of music ain't really hit like that.
And if music is only hitting because the label is pushing, not saying only, but it's almost like, and we're seeing the label not push the button now, and the music ain't even hitting. Do you think the label suppressed it? I think they just let it go.
They suppressed where he tried to drop on his own. They snatched shit down.
Like, he tried to put some shit out. They'll strike it.
They did that. But that was telling us how they felt.
Yeah, true. That was telling us where they stood on things and that this relationship has soured.
To take it back to fucking the battle and Kendrick really quickly. It's not just me.
I'm what the culture's feeling. However y'all interpret culture, because it's subjective now, but I would assume that kendrick let me not say kendrick that somebody had a talk some conversations with some people yeah and there was a word on the curb in the great words of melissa ford and yo dawg we were saying it hey this is odd that this record won't leave number one why is this like that shit ain't shoot a video.
What did they do besides press a button? We don't know. Maybe they spent some money.
But when a record stays at number one all that time, these are clear indicators. And he chose to, and I'm not getting back to his decisions during the beef, but he chose to focus on artists.
When that boy knew his real beef was higher than that it was higher than that

but he been knew that

he's been saying that

yeah but you can put

too much dip on your chip

you can

you can

and your arrogance

can make you

it can

but I'm just saying

he's not blind

to the point that

the beef is higher up

he's been telling us

this for years

that's my thing

you wouldn't be

spending time on

ASAP Rocky

but you knew

who you're

the way he was

explaining it was like

yo whoever the higher up is

Thank you. year.
That's my thing. You wouldn't be spending time on A$AP Rocky and them if...
But you knew who you're... The way he was explaining it was like, yo, whoever the higher up is, y'all got them together to all attack me.
It's still coming from above. The label is so powerful.
They're making the fall-off look like it's self-inflicted. That's true.
I agree with that. He's still talented.
He's still got it, but they're teaching him such a big lesson that they're making the fall off. They put all these things in front of him.
They're making it seem like it's him that's doing it. He can't rap no more.
Because a lot of people, what he's doing now, yes, it's to the culture where we're from, you know, you ratting, you look nasty. But there's a lot of artists that wish that they could have done that.
Not basically off of being dissed, but just go against a label that are moving things to make them look a certain way or helping the career go on a decline. My only beef with that is you had no problem when you were the main recipient.
Of course, that's the only issue. Who would? I'm just saying.
We've seen a lot of niggas lose to the labels. You sat there and talked like you was the king piece on the chessboard, which you were.
Okay. But now it's, it brings all of that in question because it's like, all right, so they, if you're telling us that they got the power to make you look where you can't succeed in music no more.
Yeah. Are you also telling us that all of your success in music still came from them? Yes.
Because your talent didn't change. The answer is yes.
Yes and yes. See, that's my other problem with certain things that he says in the suit about just the systems in play and the business of how music moves that are now working against him.
Which says to me, well, that means that you knew how they, not only did you know how they were working for you. You benefited.
But, yeah, but that's a given. But that's what you were running around taunting in the streets along with I make the best music.
You know that your lawyer used to work for the prosecutor in the town. Or you know that them people behind you, they got all the hammers.
They not even letting nothing push. He said some shit like, damn, I got a brain freeze right now.

But yeah, that's my other issue with him. He knows.

He knows. So I think that

and I'm not, I think

that his knowledge is way more

than our knowledge about what the

goings on are, right? Of course. So let's just

say if he was the golden child

and they was able to, with his talent, push

a button and let him go.

During the beef, they wasn't pushing a button

on none of them songs.

Which songs? That he was putting out

with Kendrick and the beef. They wasn't pushing

a button on them songs at all. So now

he might have information, I'm just guessing,

that said, yo, y'all doing shit

that's not just let it go and see

what happens, but eh.

Y'all might be trying to mute my shit

at the same time.

Well, they're 100% probably going to try to mute

Thank you. not just let it go and see what happens, but eh.
Y'all might be trying to mute my shit at the same time. Well, they're 100% probably going to try to mute all of his shit or not mute.
The record business is just going to have other records be heard. So it's like a phase out.
Yeah, instead of promoting yours. So I got seven songs.
No, Drake used to talk, everybody move, everybody move. It wasn't just us saying it.
That was a path being cleared. Gotcha.
Now that he's on the other side, everybody, we're just dropping. Or nobody's dropping.
We're going to freeze all this shit, but you won't benefit from shit. So now he's trying to go the internet route.
I'm trying to put some shit out on Instagram. Oh, also wait, let me reply to you real quick.
No. He never dropped a song.
See, I'm not talking fan talk today. He never dropped a song.
i'm not talking fan talk today he never dropped a song not once what you mean every family matters was uh released it wasn't a song it wasn't a song it was a response it was there was something that like listen they fucked up the streets in the mixtape game so nobody know what's what now but savvy people know the difference between you going in the studio and you making a song and you putting it out on your own versus something that's being worked by millions of people like that is a song yeah yeah this is on someone's album people have hands invested in this this is a artist that is largely responsible for some marketing. I'm talking about Future now.

And then you add Kendrick. That is a song being worked.
Drake was just

home rapping and pressing buttons and

uploading. There was nobody.

It was him on his own.

Then Kendrick comes back with fucking...

Everything that he did was

attached to something where other

arms and tentacles are working this.

The only one that wasn't was probably 616 in L.A. and Meet the Grams.

No, it's shit that I like.

Euphoria.

Euphoria.

No, that was released.

That was released.

All the release except for 616.

Dog, the only ones that matter are like that and not like us.

Those are the two that matter.

I'm agreeing.

But all of those other songs that y'all said wasn't released was still at the top of the charts. So how did that happen? What do you mean wasn't released? Because Joe was saying it was only...
He said it wasn't released. He said it wasn't worked.
It wasn't worked. It's just you on your own uploading to Dat Piff.
So you think that organically all... Because at some point he had like five or six songs in the top ten.
Who? Kendrick. He had like four or five songs in the top ten.
Yeah, like that. Not like us.
Euphoria, all of them was up there. Oh yeah, everybody was listening.
I mean, Drake's records was in there too. Yeah.
It ain't like Drake's records didn't pop up on there as well. People were listening back and forth to these songs.
They just don't stay. They don't stay.
They don't stay. You have to pay to stay.

Gotcha.

Okay.

You might get enough people on your own to pop up.

And a lot of times what happens is they hear something and this shit is a bop.

Oh, shit.

This could go.

Like when Not Like Us dropped, it was a bop.

True.

Niggas was up dancing.

I remember just the initial reaction video.

This ain't no label saying, yo, do this, do that.

People was like, oh, shit. He gave us something that we could actually.
They said California shut down. Yeah.
So now as a label, if I see that, oh, shit. Now we'll put some money behind it.
We're going to go put some money behind it. True.
Also in his shit, he's saying, y'all cut off the monetization for reaction videos to not like us, which incentivized people to make them or yada, yada, yada, yada. And I'm like, OK, so they had a good idea.
Not only did they have a good idea, they're well within their right to flick off monetization for who they see fit and what song. This is not the first time it's happened.
Just some of them salute to y'all. Hit me.
Turn it off for an episode or two. They do that.
When it's yours, which is what happens when you surrender your rights, they can do that. And this is also them playing the streamer game now.

Now the labels are saying,

okay, this streamer shit

is really out here.

It's a major deal.

No, it's free promo.

This is the next step.

So now it's like,

okay, yeah,

let's incentivize the streamers

to push our song for free.

But not just the streamers,

any video.

If it's a TikTok,

if it's a whatever.

But I'm saying that

you cut it off. I'm talking about the reaction video part.
When that word got out there that, yo, they're letting us use this song in the reaction videos, it's going to incentivize more people to make the reaction videos. And it's free market and a promo for the labor and train artists.
That's just a smart move from a company. I'm not disagreeing with you.
It's just a genius move that he put in here. It's like, oh my God, you're doing all the caring shit.
But if they wasn't... True, it is some Karen shit.
It's some brat shit. It's some brat shit.
Like, yo, y'all wouldn't let me do this, but y'all let him do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I tried to put my videos out, y'all suppressed it, and y'all took it down off Instagram, but y'all let him do what he was doing.
It's some brat shit. Like, I'm used to doing this.
Y'all said no to me now. It's bratty shit.
But if it's actually happening and he can prove that it's happening, then it changes the argument. Was the monetization just for...
It goes from... He's not going to be able to prove it.
He's not going to... I think he is, but...
It goes from business to now... It goes from culture to now business, right?

Like, if he's able to prove that you guys intentionally did this, he has an argument.

We have to stop acting like he doesn't have an argument.

We're talking about two different lawsuits, too.

You guys are talking about the first one.

Why do you think he doesn't have an argument?

Because he won't have an argument.

There is no argument in any of the things that I read is what I'm saying.

Got it. What you're describing is the music business.
Understood. When I got to Def Jam, when I got to Def Jam, I was trying to have my records work.
Me, Webb, Nitty, Skane, shout out to the gang. We were trying to have our records work and we were having a hard time the lesson back then for me was the radio niggas coming and saying yo you go and talk to your label they've sent us 13 records that have to be played before yours and unfortunately for you that's ja rule dmx ludicrous fucking method man ghostface had a smash back, it was a long list of people that you had.
Or Jay-Z, we got to get these two records on. Oh.
Oh, got it. I'm in competition with, all right, they just saying what's the, the label is going to label.
The label is not your personal concierge. But if you had an opportunity, if you had a, if you wasn'trolling with street niggas and you had an opportunity to sue them for that, you wouldn't have sued them for that if you had the knowledge of asking.
You wouldn't have sued for it. That's my point.
There is nothing to sue them for. But I think we conflating this.
In his particular instance, and I didn't read it, so, and his defamation thing is, fam, y'all calling me a pedophile on a national, fuck national, y'all calling me a pedophile on a global stage. That can be looked at as defamation.
So can he be sued for defamation for calling Kendrick a woman beater on a record prior to that? Like my whole thing is like, bro. Ice, yes.
Niggas have been saying shit. You saying yes, he could be looked at as defamation.
If Universal put money behind Drake's album where he's saying something about Kendrick's family or Kendrick's wife or Kendrick's whatever, yeah. Why are we acting like the word, the PDF? Why are we acting like the PDF word is just some regular stain you can wipe off? It's not.
That's what I was saying. It's not a regular stain you can wipe off.
People be turning the blonde

out of that part.

This shit could be detrimental

to your career

of being known as that.

Respectfully,

I have nothing,

I have no problem

with anybody

who's on that side of the fence.

That's just not my hip hop.

That's not my hip hop.

That's cool.

That's not the hip hop

I come from.

Has anybody...

That is not the worst thing

that's ever been said

in a diss record

or beef.

But it's the worst thing that's stuck, Joe. That's happened.
That's one. Two.
A DV stain, by the way, also. You say what? A DV stain is also pretty difficult to get out of the couch.
But that's the worst thing that's stuck. If you look at hip-hop, Joe talking about hip-hop and battles and stuff like that, we've seen what 50 did to Ja Rule.
Like, we've seen different things that had effect these movements that had effect on people in their career. Now we're watching another one where niggas actually saying.
If 50 Cent would have sued Ja Rule for anything that he would have said, it would have turned out different. Of course, but he's different.
The same for Jay Nas. Of course, I get it.
The same for EZE, Dr. Dre.
Like, go listen to the EZE Dr. Dre beef again.
And the new shit, is he stilling Kendrick? No, he's suing Universal directly. That's what I'm saying.
Just Universal. He's not suing Kendrick.
He's not suing Kendrick. He didn't list in the defamation any of the streamers? They weren't mentioned? No, what he's using, he's not suing.
They're referenced. Okay, they're referenced.
He's using the captions that they used because he's including that when the house got shot at and the security guard got shot, that them having the picture of the house with the address. They didn't put the address.
They had the picture of the house with the little arrows on it like sex offenders live there. That incentivized people to attack him.
That's what he's claiming. I just, I think he got a claim.
I think he has a claim. And I think.
I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm not with the violence, right? I'm not with nobody crib getting shot up.
I think it also said the day after somebody was trying to dig a hole and dig a tunnel through his crib and yada, yada, yada, yada. But I want to say, shit, I watched that house be built for however many years.
One, that house has been featured in every Fly magazine that there is. He's also himself divulged stories of fans attempting to break in his home while he's had guests, while he's had company.
I assume that that comes with being one of the biggest stars in the world. One, on the flip side, whenever him and I got into whatever we got into and them fans showed up to my house, he incentivized that.
He cheered them on. He put them on a public platform.
He he applauded that behavior and that's my other beef with the karen move got it because if you were karen be a karen but you code switching because you at the game with you running around with this nigga that has been threatening kendrick saying i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna do xyz you want to get cool with i'm not naming no names but you know who you're running around with and you know what you're doing and you know what you're threatening. So if you that, then be that.
But don't be that and also carrying out. See, that's my problem.
That's my problem. That's part of the not like us foundation that he was building.
That part right there because you run around being mob ties, mafioso,fioso, all of this other shit, saying you, you know what he's been saying. He put it on a recent record.
You know what he's been saying. So you're doing all of that, and then this is your retaliation when something happens.
He's playing both sides. I just don't like that, bro.
He's playing both sides. It's nasty in the sky.
I don't like that. What if he's speaking for the people who always wanted to go against the label?

He's not, though.

I'm asking.

This is all very self-serving.

What if he's standing up for those people?

What if he's saying that I am the one that can change this?

I am the one.

That's not his incentive.

It don't matter.

What will change?

Sorry, man.

I'm sorry.

I didn't hear you, man.

I was just going to say, that's not his incentive.

Okay.

I understand what you're saying.

But I was with that with the first lawsuit.

Yeah, me too.

Even though I thought it was bullshit, I was with that.

Thank you. you, man.
I was just going to say, that's not his incentive. Okay.
I understand what you're saying. But I was with that with the first lawsuit.
Yeah, me too. Even though I thought it was bullshit, I was with that.
I'm still with this one. But once you withdrew that and now are claiming defamation and harassment.
Because we've been hearing about the label for years. I'm with this one too.
The Super Bowl is coming up in a month. I don't want you to get on the biggest national platform in the world and say I'm a pedophile.
She took it there. Ice.
We come up here and say you can't. That's your argument with Eric.
That don't have nothing to do with what he talking about with the label. If y'all niggas is putting money behind a record that's claiming I'm a pedophile, I have a problem with y'all doing that.
It's not about Kendrick. It does have something to do with that.
It has a lot to do with that. It has nothing to do with the label.
We don't get him called the pedophile. We don't know that we get that.
We don't know that. You opened a door and you didn't like what came out the door.
So what?

I'm not suing Kendrick Lamar.

I'm suing the record label that is promoting

me being a fucking pedophile.

On a Kendrick Lamar record.

I have a problem with the label promoting an album

that says I'm a pedophile.

He can have that feeling. He can have all the feelings he wants.

Kendrick can have a feeling about him

saying, yo, you beat your wife.

And your kids at your kids.

All of that shit. And if Kendrick wanted to sue Universal for putting marketing dollars behind that, then Kendrick will be well within his right to do so.
And so I have a question about the whole definition. Let me just jump in real quick.
Well within your right to do so, yes, but no other artist would think about doing it because it's the end of your career. The same way it's going to be the end of career that's a choice that he got to make that bed lying you know i'm saying he got to make that bed lying i'm just saying but i don't think especially when it comes if he sued kendrick he would be the fucking goof of the goofiest but that's my biggest question is if he's filing a defamation machine joe Not against the machines.
To those of y'all running with that. No, I'm with you.
But I'm at it. No, I'm sorry, Mel.
It's okay. Excuse me.
I'm with you, right? I understand what you're saying. But I also understand how these infrastructures are put in place to make people look away and to fuck up things in front of the masses.
I'm aware of these things. I hear the complaints all the time.
You hear them all the time. Nigga, Michael tried to go against it.
So many people we can name that tried to go against the system and the machine and lost. Now we have a nigga that says, yo, I feel like I'm in a position to go against the machine and maybe the machine put it in a way where it looks like he's on a downhill because of the issues between them.
So now the masses are looking like, well, he's falling off and that's why he's doing it, but maybe he's not even falling off for real. They did that with Michael Jackson? Maybe they just made it like that and we've seen this for years and now somebody is stepping up to say, I'm not going to allow you to do this.
I think he's going to lose though. Me too.
I think he's going to lose, but I'm just, you know, I'm with... Listen, and I still think the only one that has lost and continues to lose in this...
Is the artist. Is him.
Is him. Is him.
Okay, I agree with that. And I just wish that he would find a different way to address all of his grievances.
I don't think he's... Again, this is above my pay grade.
So do we just accept the abuse? I don't pretend to know. Do we just accept the joke? But, dog, dog, what y'all call abuse, have at it, bro.
You enter the battle. Things were said.
You got hurt more than the other person. Sure, indeed.
If this is how you choose to deal with that. And you instigated the fight.
And another nigga hit harder than you. My bro, it's on you.
I agree. But I was here when it was, hey, nah, nigga.
I've been hearing about these threat records from over there for mad years. So now is the time.
I got time. I'm waiting.
I'm not letting you escape. Like, you were persistent in that.
Instigated. And it came from a fairly vanilla diss on the Future record, really.
It's just Big Me led to this? Nah, they've been shooting at each other for years and years and years. But it wasn't...'t it didn't have to get it didn't have to get the pedophile you ain't gotta get personal it's a friendly fate keep it that way like and he's citing the lyrics I read the lyrics in the shit he's like in euphoria he says don't tell no lies about me and I won't truth about you, which has the public thinking that everything being said is indeed true,

and yada, yada, yada, yada.

I'm like...

It's nasty, bro.

Y'all can have it, yo.

Y'all can have it.

It ain't my hip-hop.

Maybe I aged out of this shit faster than I thought I would,

but all this shit that y'all doing, it ain't...

No, not for me.

I don I would. But all this shit that y'all doing, it ain't, no, not for me.
I love it too much. Part of my confusion is also if he's filing the, the petition made a lot more sense.
But if he's filing a defamation claim against UMG, why isn't Kendrick named? Because he's saying, from what my understanding is, and y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying that Universal basically put steroids to the record. I understand that.
I completely understand it. But Kendrick's the one who said it.
He's trying to keep his foot still in hip-hop. He's trying to keep his foot still in the culture.
I think he's trying to keep his foot in the culture as far as the niggas that he rode with, that would be frowned upon. Well, then he...
Oh, well, then he's completely lost sight of how he looks. I think it's a desperation attempt by him to silence the song at the Super Bowl.
That's it. Absolutely.
I think Drake has billions of dollars of business worldwide that he is counting on to provide for whatever. And I think those business deals now become...
They get jeopardized by somebody calling you a pedophile on a worldwide stage. And even with that, that song might be pushing people to believe that.
Can I ask you one quick question? Sure. What do you say to Drake himself on the TaylorMade Freestyle, using the Pac-AI, saying, talk about him liking young girls.
I heard it on a button podcast. It's got to be true.
That's the first time this is mentioned on record. Okay.
Before not like us. I'm just saying, you yourself are saying...
Go ahead and do it. Yeah, yeah.
You're basically, you keep poking... No, he's being sarcastic saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga.
Go ahead and talk about... Yeah, okay.
So I did it. Careful what you wish for.
I just want to get your response. I think me and you are having two separate conversations.
I'm talking about global business. I'm not talking about a street fight between me and you when I'm calling your mother names and all that other shit.
I'm talking about on a global business level, my nigga, when people are running around saying that you are having sex with children, it is disparaging. But then, and that means that y'all kind of are having the same talk because one affects the other.
That's what I'm trying to get. Supposedly.
No, we can see. And, and, cool.
In order. Cool.
Kendrick can say whatever you want. Again, I'm telling you that Drake is equal.
Bro, I'm not. Drake and Kendrick are the same.
He said the nigga beats his wife. Nigga, you said I beat my wife.
If I never beat my... And you said my kid ain't mine.
Yeah, my kid's my best friend's kid. You said my manager fucked my wife and that's his kid.
That's true. I'm telling you that they are the same.
That was creative, but that was foul. I'm not disagreeing.
I thought about that while listening to it. That was foul.
That's a foul. I thought the same thing.
That's a wild shit. It was mudslinging.
It was mudslinging. And I think that there's a different perception from both people as to what the rules of engagement were.
He really, Jake really likes the goalpost move for him. Yes.
And that's clear. I think Universal's involvement in this is the underlying piece.
Okay, so let me read. Like, I think he's accustomed to Universal pushing a button for him, and they didn't.

So let me read Universal's response.

So now I see you pushing a button

for another motherfucker.

I'm tight.

Real quick before you read that.

It's not just they push the button.

They also silence shit for him.

Yeah, that's the point.

That's what he's used to.

Yes.

He's used to Universal moving,

changing the rules for him.

There was records that people said shit

that he didn't like, that he made a call,

and then they made a call, and this got to come off this song.

That's my point.

It happened to him.

He couldn't take it happening to him.

I'm not disagreeing with that piece, but when the label pushed a button on your shit, silenced my shit, and your shit happens to be one of the most disparaging things in the world, if I want to get your shit silenced and I think I got enough power to do so, I'm going to go to the court. That's what motherfuckers do in business.
I agree with Ish that a large part of this is not having not like us played at the Super Bowl. I think it's desperation attempt.
I've been hearing some things. Universal ain't the only people that he's acting like this with.
Oh yeah, no, I know. There's other shit going on outside.
Listen, when you Karen publicly, I got to assume that you Karen privately as well. That's part of the Karen profile.
That you calling behind the scenes to yada, yada, yada. And if you look at certain things, like if you look at the last two Super Bowl halftimes, that was what, Usher and Rihanna, right? Mm-hmm.
The promo for them was a lot. Mm-hmm.
You ain't seen much promo for this one. Outside of the rollout video, it's been really quiet for promo video for this halftime show.
Mm-hmm. That's a good point.
That's a great point. Why? Because behind the scenes, he's discussing shit with NFL lawyers.
Now, factor that in. What just dropped a couple weeks ago? Wait, what? His line with the NFL.
Whose line? Drake's. Drake's.
Oh, yeah. Out of nowhere.
Just popped up and dropped. Just start doing the math.
It's big boy games. What I will say to that, and I agree with that.
That's deep. That's big boy games.
When I was watching the, typically I'm used to the NFL doing their October announce, chilling, and then, because we focused on the playoffs, and then the Super Bowl coming in, it's a big deal. When I I was seeing that promo for Usher I think for me I could be off it was a lot of that tied to Apple with the Apple Apple has the halftime show Apple does the halftime yeah got it got it like I made remember when Nas and Jay was going at it?

Uh-huh.

Nas had a thing

where he was going to hang Jay

at Summer Jam.

Yeah.

They silenced it.

Uh-huh.

Dame Dash admitted,

yo,

I silenced that shit.

Nigga,

you not going to hang my man

on no stage.

Dame publicly said

he went to Hot 97

and told them niggas, if y'all

allow that shit to go down...

That was Powell.

No, it was Hot 97.

He was like, yo, if y'all allow that shit to go down,

we gonna retaliate.

Y'all not gonna be getting our shit.

Whatever he had to do and say to get that shit to go away,

I think that's just big boy games.

We watch all of these shows. We watch Billions, Succession, all of these shows.
All of that shit happens in big business. Dog, I hear the noise.
I think it's sucker shit from our perspective, how we were raised. Like, yo, you don't do that.
You take the bumps and bruises that come along with the fight. But when you got billions of dollars and all that shit on the table, and be clear, as y'all all keep saying, Drake ain't from where we from.
We expecting a nigga to potentially play by rules that we have sometimes ignorantly adopted as a way of moving around, but he don't necessarily have to adopt those rules. Then don't mob ties me to death.
That's it. That's my beef with mob ties Drake.
I miss Drake. Like, it's too many artists that are suffering from an identity crisis or begin to lose themselves when they get in this shit.
I miss original Drake. Corny Arbor.
Yes. The nigga with the Blackberry and the corny T-shirts that couldn't dress, with no beard, that everybody just wanted to get next to and get some of that corny sauce.
Y'all knew that nigga wasn't like us, but he had the magic touch. That guy, that guy that made people that when they collabed, they was joining his world.
The guy that said, nigga, I'm going to give you the verse and the hook. Look that's what every song is kind of like drink featuring old him this new caricature of himself where back to the not like us point that i don't want to continue to reiterate and reiterate or emphasize but all of this i'm doing an album with him i'm flying with him him, I sound like him, the London drill, the this.
Yo, why did you try to fix what wasn't broken? You don't think it's evolution? Mm-hmm. Or it's really me being what I really want it to be? It could be evolution.
I could really want to be that. And the opposite of evolution is what? Regression.
Because that's what I see it as.

What

evolved? Or maybe it evolved

into something that was

trash. Yeah, I think it's...

It sounds evolved. It doesn't...

Nothing about it is evolution

to me. Gotcha.

Okay. To me.

When you could go make a song with

Popcorn in Jamaica, and you could go make

a song with another artist in London,

you could make a go song down south, you could go make a song with a pop artist or, what's the girl's name? Sabrina Claudia. Yeah, like when you could do all of those different things, I don't necessarily know if Drake from yesteryear could do those things.
I think the evolution now, his personal persona

is one thing. Okay.
And I think too

I'm of the belief

that Drake from yesteryear

could do anything in the world

that he wanted to musically. Gotcha.

I wouldn't disagree with that. And

to the evolution point of music

becoming global because I recognize that

I wouldn't have

my point if he were

the one still dictating

those sounds

Thank you. becoming global because I recognize that I wouldn't have my point if he were the one still dictating those sounds to increase us globally like the NBA doing a deal with China.
But it seems like you just conformed, you rode waves. Music is fickle.
Dog, when Norrie was doing his reggaeton shit, man him and Daddy Yankee, that shit was on fire. I was home looking at a clock.
Man, waves. Music is fickle.
Dog, when Norrie was doing his reggaeton, shit, man, him and Daddy Yankee, that shit was on fire. I was home looking at a clock.
Man, hurry this shit up. Dog, sometimes you have a record that's fire.
I'm not speaking about Drake now because he's bigger than life. But for the rest of us, we can have a record and be holding it in a tuck and in a year, the whole sound of music will totally different like music is a lot about timing so he conveniently and not just conveniently because now in hindsight i feel like he got word from the curb from his business partners of what the target is just like when i was in spotify or wherever and the niggas would say yo india it.
It's like, oh, got it. That's where the focus

is. Yo, the population is this over

there. So if we do that, we'll see

a 10% increase and they get back there and they

start talking their shit. And if you are

our streaming baby

and we working in alignment,

then dog, we have

it. It's Barry Bonds,

yo, nothing could stop it.

But now, if you're not dictating those things, right? Like, if he could go in the studio right now and do a one dance, which everybody here, I'm sure, believe that he can still make a one dance, why you not? I say, yeah. I always say, why you not? Why you not? Why wouldn't you? That goes back to the concept of he's potentially holding all this material, which, again, I think is a mistake because the world changes too fast.
Music changes too fast. So if you're holding on to all these great songs and great albums for when you get out of your contract, which you don't really have no definite date, that's a mistake.
But not just that. Go ahead.
You can finish. If the music is changing too fast, I think that it's a clever business move that he hops on each sound.

Yeah, I'm not...

Right?

So that's what I'm saying.

A lot of times, you know,

when Joe says that,

I missed the old Drake,

I want that Drake,

but I think it's actually clever

and you stay relevant

because a lot of artists,

the sound becomes outdated.

It's a trick.

And we laugh at them.

But that's a trick.

Not laugh, like ha ha ha.

But that's the trick.

Even if it's a clever one, Joe.

It's a clever trick. It's just a risk.
Wait, hold up. Yes and no.
Okay, explain. Yes and no.
Because it's still the program doing this. It's still the program.
So why is Drake not on a Bad Bunny song right now? Or why is Drake not on a Bruno Mars song right now or an Adele song right now or a Taylor Swift song right now or any of them, the premium, Post Malone, whoever those premium, they're going to keep you off. The label is.
The label is. We're going to ice you out.
So now when you go try to do it, because he's done it, I came in here and was the only one in the world that liked that shit with him and the Spanish dude or him and whoever that dude was where I thought he got off in the verse. I played that shit up here.
Came away. Came away.
Nothing. Everything's coming and going.
Everything that he's done. The white girl.
He just did it. And the Brazilian.
He got records on the 100 gig shit that if they fucked with him would go. Yes, but I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about collaborations and the program's program. He could do whatever he want on his own, but they put him with the little racist white girl two times.
Two times. You heard them for a second.
It's very different than somebody powerful putting Rima with, what's the Spanish girl that's on the hit? Rima and that fucking white girl that's Spanish. Everybody heard the song.
Biggest song in the world. I want to find it.
Somebody look it up. Rima and one of them white girls.
They went up there and won the Caribbean award. He brought her to the stage.
Like, these are intentional collaborations from people that are above the mascots. Gotcha.
And we are the mascots. And at some point, we expected Drake to take a hove-like leap to businessman.
And it's tough to have that talk with somebody that's as wealthy as him. But I'm speaking from his world.
We were expecting him to take that, but he kept drinking the Kool-Aid of Universal and Lucian. They asked him, Lucian, hey, Drake, call, ask for some money.
He said it. Anytime Drake has ever called and asked for more money, I give it to him.
That's the Lucian grade A version of Lior taking me to the Knick game when focus was out. And guess what, Joe? Stupid me.
Hey, the Knicks. When you don't want to go to the game no more.
And you want the box seats. And you want equity.
And you start talking Jay-Z talk. It's going to be pushback potentially from the same nigga that put his arms around you and said, yo, you can have anything I got.
Because he's never going to think that you're going to ask for what the fuck he really got. Well, you're talking about the one process.
You take me to the game. What happens when I want my own skybox? What I'm saying is it starts with, hey, man, why is that happening? Right? Like a good businessman.
You're part of the reason. I'm walking out here.
Part of the reason I'm such a great spadeade player hey some of y'all out there know about me is because whatever my opponent is trying to do I figured it out I figured it out by the time the first two cards are placed the same in business in business hey you might get what you want you might get your deal and be clear I know that most of y'all and I know for a fact most of y'all are back there asking for pennies pebbles and fruity uh fruity uh what fruit loops y'all not back there asking for shit demanding shit i'm not talking about drake he could be he might have been back there bugging asking you you ball up but the rest of my point the rest of y'all niggas y'all ain't back there really negotiating for nothing y'all up y'all are and have been happy with receiving a look and a hundred thousand dollars to for you to get by for your next six years and maybe get another hundred thousand from the publisher and now you got 300 and we're gonna make you high and you go get your money on the road and and through brands. Y'all have been totally pleased with that.
So it's like, yeah, if y'all are happy being high priced mascots, which 98 percent of you are, then when when the team get to change in the colors of the mascot outfit, you can't say you can put that new outfit. Wear that gold Yo there's nothing That you can say dog This shit hurts This shit hurts This is like The hip hop version Of the fucking house seats Like the seats that Hey It's been dominated For 90 years And now we got This one small window To where We can make it Change something And see these labels Take a fall And the few niggas That could have did it, y'all end up fighting with each other,

taking a deal, and only looking out for self.

There's no union in hip-hop.

There's no unity in hip-hop.

None of y'all know what culture means.

Actually, they've been telling y'all what culture means

because they own this shit now.

This shit is a fucking mess.

It's disgusting.

And if you love this shit, it hurts.

It hurts.

It does.

I ain't mad to come in and fucking be vulnerable

or sad about this shit.

I'm saddened as a diss track king

Thank you. it hurts it does i ain't mad to come in and fucking be vulnerable or sad about this shit i'm saddened as a diss track king as a nigga who loved to get on the mic and tell lies about my opponent that was the shit nigga saigon got on the mic said my kid was gay he did nigga i can name all of the things that people say little b said i needed row games I'm joking that's not that bad but horrible things get said man I just don't like the Karen play both sides I don't like the aggressor and the victim especially going through what I just went through with these fucking these racist pieces of shit like I just see how the game is played with systems in place and when it don don't go your way, we end up here.
But forget about the effect or the impact on everybody else. I hope it plays out well for him.
I honestly, personally, don't see how it can. I don't see how it can.
Not saying it can't. Again, above my pay grade.
Let me ask you one quick question. Do y'all still think Not Like Us gets played at the Super Bowl? Yes.
Yes. I don't know if they say the line though.
No, just the song. I definitely don't think he was going to play the song.
Dog, the beat has been played. The beat is at least coming on.
The beat has been played on in arenas. The organ player plays it at the Knick game.
Like, the beat is played. The song.
Even if he don't say a word, I've always been on the side of he's going to edit it. That intro shit is going to come out.
I always say he's going to edit it and do it. But in the event I'm wrong and he don't say a word, the beat is going to come on like Usher doing my way for five seconds just walking out to it.
Yeah. That might dead people.
That might be the intro. I see dead people.
Yeah.

And then into whatever.

His behavior is single-handedly

making the legacy of Not Like Us.

He's making it the greatest

diss record of all time.

It's so seven million.

I wouldn't give a fuck.

I don't care.

I'm talking about sales.

I was never ready to call

Not Like Us the greatest

diss record of all time.

It's getting harder to argue. It's solely his behavior that's making the legend of it grow.
That's a fact. What I was saying to you, you know, off camera, when I ask you, you're a man that goes against the system, right? Especially now in your new life.
You just, you still keep that same sentiment. Yeah, I don't give a fuck how high you are.
I'm going to go against you. If I feel that it's wrong, if I feel it's not right, if I feel I'm being treated unfairly, I'm going to fight the system no matter how many resources I have to use.
So that's why to me, when you say it, I understand what you're saying from a hip hop perspective, but from a business perspective, I don't understand why you're not understanding his angle, right? Like, you're not going to, if somebody, anything that anybody do to you, you're not taking the line down, especially with the new knowledge that you gained over the years. You came up here and said all the time, yo, if I would have read these contracts, if I would have understand what they were doing back there, I would have moved totally different.
And then now we have somebody that listens to you, that listens to everybody else and decided to move differently. So I would think that you, not from a hip hop perspective, but okay, I get what you're doing.
A lot of, nigga, 50 sues everybody. So my man shot the fifth.
Niggas sue and take niggas to court. And a lot of things you may look at like, oh, taking them to court for that, but it's business.
So that's just the confusing part when I hear you speak about it. Like you're speaking from a fan perspective.

Like, yo, I love Drake.

I'm Mr. Old Drake.

Don't do this because I'm a diss record king.

But then I'm not hearing you speak from the business side

of how things could be put in place to destroy you.

And that's the confusion for me when I hear you speak about it.

If I smoke the weed and there's fentanyl in it, I'd face the repercussions. It's hard for me to empathize when you have been complicit with a system for so long and reaped the benefits and gotten paid and gave everybody your ass to kiss and fucked everybody's girl and said, I'm taking a piece of your contract and I'm taking a piece of your contract, and I'm taking a piece of your contract, and I'm not clearing this record, and you take that record off of there.
Like, it's hard to empathize with somebody who's been down for the cause. Again, above my pay grade.
For me, I've always been pretty transparent in where I stand in terms of independence. And why.
And that's no matter what. That's a forever thing.
I don't like going before a judge and the judge having the final say on what the rest of my life looks like. I don't like going to work and them saying, hey, if you don't have a song in the next 10 days, you're out of here.
I don't like going to work and saying, hey, we saw a blog, so you're fired.

Fuck you. I don't like complex firing me while I have a baby coming in the same week.

That's an uncomfortable and uneasy feeling for me. I much rather sleep with eating what I hunt and not missing what I never had.
And for me, it's worked out.

Cool. That's for me.
With all of this shit that's happened, maybe y'all can answer it. I still don't think it's transparent as to what Drake's end goal is like what he wants.
I don't think it's transparent what anybody's been doing behind closed doors. Whether that's Drake or Universal.
I think that, I think that if Drake went public, whatever information he has, and told if he had proof of X, Y, Z going on, we might look at it in a different way. It's possible.
To what Joe was saying before, and to what Flip is saying, I think that Drake and Universal have always been buddy-buddy. Chummy-chummy.
And now, like Drake and LeBron, like Drake and DeMar DeRozan, you not doing what we was doing before. Our relationship has changed.
And so now I'm looking at you like the op. I think that could potentially have happened.
Or I'd be seeing that it happened. And now he on the offensive with a nigga that you might have been fly with before.
Him and Lucian might have never had an opportunity for him to see the things from the perspective that you've seen him because he's never endured what you've endured. You wasn't the media darling at Complex.
You were for a second until they couldn't use you. No.
Until they couldn't use you no more and your information got up and you asked for something else. That might be where he is in his journey now i'm not knocking him you know what i'm saying so how he responds to it somebody would have said could have potentially said yo joe did some bullshit you have admittedly said y'all trying to burn this whole bitch down you get what i'm saying like that might be where he is right the line in the sand and when i and when i do or when anybody decides to make those, you get on the phone with your team or your attorney, and if they're competent, plenty of times they said to me, okay.
Sit your dumb ass down. No, no, they're your team.
They're supposed to advise you. If you do this, this is what can potentially be the back blow.
True. And I think he might be willing to deal with it.
And I think his arrogance level, being where he is at a 40-year-old, a 30-something-year-old man, 40-year-old man, I think he might need to be shown. Everybody and I have got punched in the face before, man.
And so until a nigga punch you back and he might hit harder than you, it's a lesson that you might have to learn in your growth and in your journey. This might be the punch.
And does he care anymore about being accepted by the core audience of hip hop? Yes, he does. This shit change every day.
I think he does. Weird.
Isn't he trying to like He doesn't engage in the battle if he doesn't care about the hip hop. No, I said anymore.
He may try to be appealing to the younger audience.

They don't care about anything.

They don't care about shit.

That song he just released didn't say, I don't care about what they think about me.

Which one?

The little freestyle shit he just did.

That don't say that.

That freestyle shit says, I care.

I give a fuck.

Oh, you're talking about the LeBron joint?

Yeah.

Allegedly.

Five hours.

Got it.

And the one before that.

Yeah, the whole scary hours. All that shit.
I care. Yeah, it's all alchemist and conductor.
Like, yeah. I care.
And I'm going to show y'all. We watch a lot, like I said, with the new audience, new fans, the rules and morals and principles of yesteryear are no longer.
True. That's true.
Right? With the new fans. They don't give a fuck.
Oh, this Akashi signal. They don't care.
They don't care about that shit.

They came home, got on the song.

They don't care about that.

They may not care about a code, but do you think that they care about what's considered corny?

No.

They don't care.

I don't think so.

They don't care.

And it ain't just the new fans either.

Yeah.

Because, and I, I, just let me finish.

He right.

Ross being outed as a corrections officer in the 90s would have ended him.

We didn't give a fuck because the slaps kept coming.

That's a lot of crooked corrections.

I'm not saying this.

I know it is.

That's a lot of crooks.

I know it is.

And if his ties.

I'm aware.

Could dispel that I'm not on that side of the law. Ross could have got it off.
He didn't even have to because they didn't care. That's my point.
Yeah. Like the shit that we talking about right now I think we a minority.
Absolutely. Looking at this like some Karen shit or looking at it like you borderline ratting or snitching or whatever the case may be.
I think we are minority in that. And I think that also goes along with our age demo.
I think that's also we're minority because of his popularity. I think if this was a much less popular artist, they would all be the same way they jumped on Gunner's back.
But did they? They did. We're in a minority because today, we fans of hip hop.

Yeah.

Today, they fans of the person.

Correct.

True.

So we riding with you no matter what.

Right.

That's the difference today.

A lot of, they don't give a fuck.

Like, you can look corny.

So what?

We go and ride with you.

Gunnar sold out Madison Square Garden twice.

He did.

True.

I don't know if they jumped on his back.

He came home.

He was home about six months. I want to jump in on you guys' minority conversation because I think all of that is contingent upon how you view the minority.
Like y'all are just talking numerically. In masses.
Y'all are just talking numerically. Numbers.
Numbers. Yeah, numbers.
But isn't that where hip hop is today? Stop it. It's about numbers.
But stop it for a second. Let me think.
My brain is fucking clustered. And that's my problem with the number one urban podcast.
That hip-hop, to some, is not only the minority, but very small, insignificant, urban, black black not a factor because of numbers right and population and market share and all of that stuff when i go get to talking i argue the strength in that because of what culture and that minority dictates. True.
I agree with that. So, yes, it is small.
But powerful. Smaller minority, right? But depending on how you view the strength of that minority, we are the ones that dictate.
I'm speaking for my beliefs only right now. We are the ones.
I'm saying y'all can speak for yourself. We the ones that dictate what's fly what's hot what's fashionable what can sell what can we drive them numbers back there we just not allowed to go back there in the room and have access to the fax machine so i go back there and they try to they're going to always try to minimize you with yeah you're the number one urban or you're the number one in hip-hop or your demo is only black.
Up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. If I go get to telling these black people what's going on, and they get to making enough ruckus, the same way every one of y'all companies and corporations see everything, every tweet, every reel, every y'all got, y'all done designed tech and programs to watch everything that we buy, everything that we say, how we cuff our sweats, how we, y'all know what time it is.
I know what time it is when I go on Bottega and buy some shit and the price went up from the last time I went in it. Yeah, it's because I done came in here and bought 17 of these motherfuckers and then went on my show, they did that shit to, I know when the price spikes be happening and why they happen, I'm speaking only for my belief.
So yeah, I speak for these black people, but do you have any other black people on your network? What are you doing for black people? So yeah, the minority is powerful and strong. Counterculture always has been.
Regardless of race or gender or whatever it was. A thousand percent.
I agree with that wholeheartedly. It's small but powerful.

I agree.

Pause.

If the pauses do.

And there's some people

that don't view it that way.

Listen,

there's the team

of the super wealthy,

all them niggas

being friendly,

they getting together now,

they busting each other flowers,

buying each other lunch,

fucking Elon and Jeff

and fucking Zuck

and I imagine

that that team is going to grow with Trump and all of that listen they they you know i mean i forgot the point i was getting at just now like i forgot why i brought that up minority shit powerful i'm just saying you got to get the companies and find out what side of the fence they on like i'm making my business to find out how a company feels about a black person and a black person ascending. Now I'm off on a whole nother tangent, but it is a little bit related.
Right. Like, and there's some that's going to put a ceiling over you and look at you like you have the fucking audacity when you come in here.
And there's some that they're going to honor certain things because there's a whole bunch of white people out there where we bobbing off

shared and similar experiences.

I'm real fly

with this white dude in the building. Shout out to the people in the building

listening. We got podcast fans.

Yeah!

I'm real fly with this

white boy from Bensonhurst. We ain't talking about

white or black. We got shared experiences.

You got jumped over there. I got

jumped over here. It was rough coming up, you're pulling that money

you left. It's just, it's shit.
It's not

about that. So

again, off on a tangent. I don't remember how I got

there, but important

to find out how they will view you

and that's going to tell you

how they're going to view your reach,

your communication, who you talk to

and your ceiling.

Yeah, man, this shit hurts.

Oh, that was my point.

Get this shit off.

When you was talking about the Jay-Z shit,

Jay-Z come from a different background.

Absolutely.

He does.

Jay-Z has always been a CEO.

Any nigga that's outside selling drugs,

you are the CEO of your own company.

You dictate what and how much money you can accumulate.

And you're going to also dictate the risks associated with your decisions. You're going to dictate how to manage the money, how to manage the re-up.
That's inventory control. All of that shit is you literally running your own corporation.
So when you look at Drake, that's always been, quote, unquote, coddled. Almost an employee, right? He's not an employee, but he almost is an employee because he keeps taking the check just put in position so now to shut you up i'm gonna just give you more money and you're gonna go away so now i think he has enough money to where he might want to step into the ceo shoes and to your point the audacity of you when i just gave you 400 million dollars nigga to want to get a piece of this pie.
No, your ceiling is here.

You're going to stay an artist at all times.

And don't come looking for nothing else.

And I think these may be some of the fights he's having now

that Jay never had.

Well, I agree.

And I put a little bit of this on him

because we're in the information era, right?

I can see them saying that.

I can see them saying that to him.

Hey, you want to be a boss?

Congratulations.

You won't do it here.

True. So now you got to go to, like like 50 didn't do it through music.
Yep. Hove, they did a pie of where all his income is.
He didn't do it through music. Kanye didn't do it through music.
Puff didn't do it through music. True.
None of the people that you could figure out that none of the examples that we have before. Rihanna didn't do it through music.
Rihanna didn't do it through music. Nobody that's getting it today.
Music is your opportunity. And with that comes opportunity cost.
True. It's going to be on you one day and to your point, maybe he's there right now.
But it's on you one day to leave that comfy living room with the couch and the big screen and the masseuse and the charcuterie and get out there and get it down. With all of who you are.
True. With all of your star power and your fucking oh my God, I'm sad.
Well, this was the response from UMG and from all of your things. Put your reading glasses on, Big Mal.
Put the readers on. You really look like a librarian.
Who they playing with, Big Mal? Hello, Mrs. Ford.
I'll take a book from her. And they'll bring the books back.
Word. They'll bring the books back if Mal up there.
Big Mal. All right, check it.
Well, the gloves are off according to this response. Is this new? It's all new.
Everything's new, yeah. Not only are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would seek to harm the reputation of any artist, let alone Drake, is illogical.
We have invested massively in his music, and our employees around the world have worked tirelessly for many years to help him achieve historic commercial and personal financial success. Throughout his career, Drake has intentionally and successfully used UMG to distribute his music and poetry, to engage in conventionally outrageous back and forth rap battles, to express his feelings about other artists.
He now seeks to weaponize the legal process to silence an artist's creative expression and to seek damages from UMG for distributing that artist's music. We have not and do not engage in defamation against any individual.
At the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to protect our people and our reputation, as well as any artist who might directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation target for having done nothing more than write a song. And that's why I'm saying...
Very well said. Like everything universal, give me, it's up and it's stuck.
It's not, yo, let's amicably see if we can, let's have a mediator. Let's see if we can rectify.
They passed that. No, it's like, you got us fucked up.
They seem like enough for you now. Which is odd.
No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
You don't think that they're tired of the brat?

I don't.

I think that he might be. Or we done had them conversations and the line is drawn.

Ain't no budget no more.

Okay, then, nigga, it's up.

Do what you got to do.

You know how you talk to somebody like, all right, that's what it is?

All right, well, you do what you got to do then.

Oh, no, they call that best and final.

Highest and best.

They call that best and final. Once that said on the phone, let's all go to our corners.
See what we ain't. I think he got back that best and final and didn't like it and had enough the same way and got mad like we all get mad and now I'm gonna go and I'm gonna go show you a hundred gigs and no face no face no face

I like that no face shit. I said it when it dropped.

If no face would have came out with record

with label support. Circadian rhythm

record support. That no face shit is hard.

No face is out of here. But

poor Khaled don't know what to do for an album.

Yeah.

That's the album I'm waiting on. We keep talking about Kendrick

Future Weekend all of a sudden that nigga where is Khali's album? Dirk is gone Hey bodyguard Bro We gonna see? Damn Dirk Oh my lord And you really tight If you him If he can't get out The deal Y'all still holding me And I don't wanna be And we beefing? What you go? You over there feeling like a cage? We gave you a half a billion dollars. You over there feeling like a caged bird.
We turn it over. We turn the contract over for life.
Yeah. Like you over there feeling like that.
Perpetuity. And I think that might be part of his plea too.
I mean, yo, let me go. No.
No. And that's my other line though.
You frustrated frustrated. Yo.
And again, this might be a culture thing or you might have missed this in your travels. At some point, you got to learn.
If you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose. You have to learn how to lose.
This is on track for him. If you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose.
Dog. Look.
There if you learn how to win you have to learn how to lose dog there's a such thing as there's a such thing as losing gracefully there's a such thing as after the loss we go and we do the dab up the line and yada yada yada like and if you just take the loss and you run back to the locker room you start throwing shit You hook off on somebody Yeah that's not how you lose And the championship gods See again There's spade gods There's monopoly gods If you believe in the universe There's gods to these things And if you play bad You get bad hands If you lose bad Nig, we won't send a win in your direction. If you believe that.
If you believe that. I do.
You got to learn how to lose. I disagree.
This is not how you lose. This is just a really bad way to lose.
Joe, you missing something. This is what he does.
Go back to the Degrassi days. No.
Listen, listen, listen.

He was on the Degrassi show.

He shot his ass.

Shot him in a wheelchair.

In the back.

And you know what?

He threatened legal action to get out the wheelchair.

And do you know why?

Because he said, yo, I'm trying to rap,

and this is going to make me look weak in rap if my character on TV is in a wheelchair.

That's crazy that he doesn't think this makes him look weak, though.

But it worked, though.

They came, you know, that's what I'm saying.

So when I don't get my way.

Yeah, but it was such a small scale back then.

Well, that's part of the Karen profile.

Exactly.

That is part of the Karen profile.

So this is who you've always been.

Sue, sue, sue.

Get my way, get my way, get my way.

This ain't new.

Yeah, but I mean, shit, it worked. Oh, man.
I'm looking at y'all like you're crazy. Why? What did I say? I ain't never lost.
So this is my go-to. I don't have to know how to lose.
Michael Jordan is a sore loser. Kobe Bryant is a sore loser.
Every nigga that's a great is a sore loser. Them niggas don't lose gracefully.
And they look at you like you crazy if you lose gracefully how dare you

come back to this locker room and not be pouting i i disagree with uh michael and kobe not losing gracefully i totally disagree with that no i feel like kobe was very vocal about both of them michael jordan was punching niggas in they face in the locker room bro it wasn't no losing gracefully for the niggas that are great.

They don't lose gracefully, Joe.

Competitor, bro. It wasn't no losing gracefully for the niggas that are great.
They don't lose gracefully, Joe. Competitor, Joe.
Competitor. In the public eye, I think they lost more gracefully than what we know really happened.
Don't competitor me to death because you name it, real competitors, and the loss adds to what makes them great with what they do with it. No, I agree.
That's all I'm saying. No, I'm agreeing with that piece, but you said they lose gracefully.
Nick Anderson took the ball, kicked Michael Jordan in the back of his ass, moved, went, scored a layup, sent him home. No, he didn't do all of that.
But Nick, they sent him on. They sent him on his way when he came back in his return season.
Hey, get the fuck out of here, you rusty bitch. That's what they did.
And he came back and, shit, wasn't that the, that was the second of the three-peat? Second three-peat. The first of the second three-peat.
Yeah. You got to take that.
You lost. They came back and whipped the magic ass.
Yep. They beat the magic ass.
Like Mike, say I take it personally. I'm taking it the dog shit Dennis Scott come on the court.
Nigga. Dog, when the Lakers lost to Boston, Kobe said, yo, he was fucked up, bro.
Like, he was fucked up. Like, yo, I could have lost to anybody but them.
I was fucked up. To y'all gunner point, listen, LeBron walking out of Boston Garden in Cleveland, that last game.
We was wanting to see the resurgent story from one of the greats. We want to see the comeback.
We saw the L. Got it.
Everybody had a slice for a year. Niggas got paid.
They talk shit. They put smut on your name.
That comes with being great. We wanted to see the comeback story.
The comeback. Oh, my God, I'm sad.
The L ain't over, nigga. The Super Bowl, the biggest stage in the country is coming up.
And y'all still about to play this shit. This hit summer.
This hit summer when we lost. Now I got to go home.
I got to be in the gym from fucking, when are the playoffs? He's going to be in Australia. Look, the playoffs is May.
The season start back in November. Kendrick going to kick my ass this summer.
He going to kick my ass this winter. And I'm back in the gym.
And I think that nigga got some shit in the gym. I'm sure.
I think, I think. Yeah, but will he pay for it? What you mean pay? Pay for this whole situation.
If he has something that he feels confident in and has faith in will he dig in his own pocket hire his own independent team to work and support this stuff it's no longer i don't know that it's no longer just show up to work i don't know so you niggas that like to just show up to work i know i got it process we coming hey the just show coming. Hey, the just show up to work days are over.
Yeah, you talking, I don't know. I don't know how that stuff works, like the music business and all that shit.
Is he allowed to do that with being signed to Universal? Probably not. Probably can't do it.
You get what I'm saying? Like, is he allowed to do that? At some point, you got to do some fucking backdoor shit and figure some shit out. But if they keep suppressing my backdoor shit.
I did it. I did backdoor shit.
Y'all niggas, this whole upload in a hundred gigs. Come on, my nigga.
I drop over here on Instagram or whatever. Give this nigga a little credit, my nigga.
If I'm trying to come back and take my L back or try. I mean, how does this end? This ends with- The humbling part, I'm sorry, Mel.
The humbling part is recognizing when- You up against a different opponent? Or when you need someone. Yeah.
Like, guess what? I could go, and not to keep using me, because, again, above my pay grade, but I could go and do X, Y, Z on my own, and we pull out the calculator and see how much it'll cost me, and I could do it. Or I could get with a partner who we kind of believe in each other's capabilities, and they could help to offset some of this load that's on my back.
True. The problem in his case is, like y'all said, if he tried to do some other shit, get with a partner, some backdoor shit, the times have changed now.
Everything is online. So with the push of a button, Universal could strike whatever you do.
That's hard. But there's also the real world.
It's changed now. You could do different shit.
You can. You were the fucking change.
You can. But we've had.
But hindsight. I'm talking about right now.
Right now. How does he fight your universe? How do you.
How does he. How do we.
If I want to put off some bullshit. He can give away free bootlegs on all his tours that he's been constantly going on for the past few years.
You could do a bunch of fucking sneaky fly shit that would actually look cool. Y'all got this one-on-one CD.
It's on a fucking CD-R or a flash drive or something. You could do some fucking backdoor shit.
We're all just so addicted to this shit. But that was by design.
I know, but there is other ways. But then you got to be on tour with another slave master.
You got to be on tour with another slave master. But you could be doing your own shit to build your own shit up.
I'm not even trying to be funny. Today, you give a nigga a CD.
What are you going to play it on? If it's a Drake CD? Maybe not a CD, a flash drive, whatever the fuck it is. A little card with a fucking QR link.
I don't care what it is. Yeah, Pox.
Dog, you could humble yourself if you are in a contractual situation that you tried to get out of and cannot. The same way he humbled himself when they took that petition down and it says, the day before on the deadline, he went he called UMG and Spotify to say, I'm taking this down.
Do you guys agree? That's a humbling thing. That is a change in position.
You could go to your business partner, humble and find something to say that says for the duration of this contract, I'm going to we can we're going to meet in the middle. I'm going to give you whatever you need, whatever they're fighting about.
He has to come up off of some of that just to end this. Because if he don't, they are going to end him.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying none of it is right.
But recognize who you're in the ring with. True.
Now when they say, all right, cool, we're going to play nice, you signed this three-album deal. Yeah.
No, no, no, no. No, what I'm saying is not for a new signature.
I'm under the premise of... No.
I'm saying, but for us to play nice, we want to keep you here. We don't want to let you go.
We're not letting you fulfill this contract, my nigga. You got to sign four more albums for us to even come to the motherfucking...
Contracts mean things. So, okay, granted, if the label wants to say, hey, you don't want to sign our new contract, we not keeping you hot or making you hot going into it.
Or letting you get yourself hot. Okay, cool, sir.
Or letting you complete it. No, see, that's weird.
That's weird. Bro, if I got...
You got a deadline deadline if you don't got a deadline if you owe me two albums if you owe me two albums left on the contract and I say well we not dropping you could have 15 albums done we're not letting you drop the two albums to complete the contract so I heard that's possible bro I know an artist personally that this happened to he had one album left on the deal with Def Jam. Album done.
Had the next album ready to go. And they were like, yo, Dawgs, no, we're not dropping this unless you sign us with a two album.
Okay, so I'm playing along with your premise. I want to go with him.
No, that can happen, right? E1 didn't want to give me no money when it was my last album. They didn't want to pay for a single paper.
Labels do that shit. So I got that.
And if that's happening, then I would say that the fight is not, or not solely harassment and defamation. Because you're spending money on a fight.
That's a fight. If, hey, I have been prepared to get out of this contract, I have these albums, they are not counting them, that would be listed in part of my fight is what I'm saying.
You should fight that. I agree with you if that was the case.
And you have all the, you're fighting already. See, once you're fighting already, let's fight.
Let's get the real fight out there. You have soiled the relationship.
I don't really see a,

let me not say never.

Let me not say never.

I don't see a return,

but there could be a small beacon of hope or some loophole

or a slither of light

that's coming from somewhere.

But this relationship currently,

as it stands,

is all the way,

all the way down the toilet.

Can I say something?

So get all your fights out the way.

If they're stopping you

from completing your album, which we've heard If they're stopping you from completing your album,

which we've heard rumors about,

stopping him from completing

his contract,

then do something about that.

I agree.

I think this, again,

it's just a desperation thing

about the Super Bowl.

What up?

In closing for me,

I feel we know somebody

that's personally

that completed all

their obligations

but would not be let out

of a deal that lasted

for a long time.

Thank you. We know somebody that's personally that completed all their obligations but would not be let out of a deal that lasted for a long time.

And I want to be careful what I say.

And because of street codes and principles, they would not take, they would not or will not sue or take it to court.

And that's where I'm conflicted at, right? I do want to live by the street, but I know somebody personally in a deal that is complaining and calling and the nigga just won't let him out. No matter how many years pass, he just won't let him.
No, I'm not budging. Even one of the partners say, budge.
No, I'm not budging. Like these things happen, especially when you come privy to more information.
So artists every day, we're in an era of learning different things, rereading things and saying that, okay, I was at this point in my life when I signed this. And I made you guys this amount of money.
And then now I feel like I want to be treated fairly. Or I want to be out this.
And there are some people that stand strong. No, I'm not letting you out that shit.
No. I know somebody right now, and I just have to respect the game.
But it just clicked in my head that this is happening every day, all day. See, my take on that, and it's my upbringing a little different, is the streets and business ain't the same thing.
But we have convoluted into it. But you said they came into it here.
That artist that you're speaking about, are they still in the streets? No. No.
But you're trying to adhere to street rules. When y'all talking business, you're not even in the streets no more.
When I say street rules, meaning that I want to get out of this, but I'm not going to sue you guys because that would make me look. That's what I'm talking about.
For me, just to make my point clear, I'm not mad at Drake or any artist in the world beefing with a label, fighting with a label, or suing a label. For Drake, I'm mad at what he is fighting with this label about.
I'm mad at how he's going about it, and I'm mad at what it stems from. Got it.
I'm with you, Joe. That's it.
All right. That's it.
Same. If he's fine with all of the criticism that is going to come from the move,

then who the fuck is anybody else to say, hey, dog, you a bitch, you corny,

what will you do?

Especially if he gets his desired outcome.

Yeah, whatever that is, and I ain't pretending to know.

I ain't pretending to know.

He could want to get away from them.

He could want to get more money from them.

I don't know.

He could just want to block this shit from the Super Bowl.

Or he could just want that.

It could just be that.

It could just be that.

It could just be that, and the only way to do that is legally.

I don't know.

I hope you enjoyed this video. money from them.
He could want to, I don't know. He could just want to block this shit from the Super Bowl.
Or he could just want that.

It could just be that. It could just be that.

It could just be that

and the only way

to do that is legally.

I don't know.

We'll see.

I was hoping that

Drake, Kendrick stuff

wouldn't permeate

my 2025.

Yeah, same.

I didn't want to talk about this.

I didn't.

The fans would have had my ass

if I had came in here and said, nope, I don't give a fuck. Yeah.
I thought about this. Or? I didn't.
The fans would have had my ass if I had came in here

and said,

nope,

I don't give a fuck.

Yeah.

I thought about it.

And I ain't,

I don't want them

kicking my back in.

I'm sad.

I think our conversation

was good.

It was great.

I loved our conversation.

I'm just,

I just,

I'm having real life

affairs.

I'm sad.

I'm sad for real.

I feel like when I cried

for De La Soul.

Everybody don't love this shit. I love this shit.
I can't believe that we are here right now. I'll be 45 anyway.
I guess that's the age. When you bring money into that shit, dog, all of the passion and shit like that starts to get questioned because money is the most important motivator in all of this shit.
When you label it business, at that point, the nature of business is to turn a profit. And so it becomes fucked up.
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Yes, sir. What were we talking about? We were talking about.
why somebody wouldn't let somebody else out of a recording contract or whatever production company contract or any contract you have if you are fly with them and have been with them for 20 years. After so many years, after coming up together with them, and if they call you about like 25 or 30 years later, after reviewing their contract and saying, yo.
After 30 years?

You reviewed your contract after 30 years?

No, I'm just saying like,

well, just trying to find loopholes

and asking to get out of it.

I feel like you should

accommodate them.

Especially...

Based on what?

Time.

Loyalty.

Friendship.

You listen to all things

that don't work in business. Yeah, but when we sign, when I sign off first, that's what you're presenting to me.
You're presenting those options. Loyalty, friendship, time.
I'm presenting a business contract. It's not true.
They put bait on the hook when you go fishing. Yeah, but then it's fucked up, right? We got to get the fish out of the water.
Smoke and mirror is a lot, Joe. It's a lot of smoke and mirror.
That's the music business. And niggas use love.
And this is why the new age content creators or new age artists is winning. Because there's no more morals and principles.
And even if you try to implement them, niggas negate them. They forget about it.
I forget about all that.

If I was going through something,

if I was signing to you for a long time,

I would want to call you years later if something could happen for me.

If I can't,

if I can make another move,

I would want to call you.

Yo, Joe, listen.

It's been a long time, bro.

So I'm going to let you go.

Do me a favor.

Can you let me go?

I'm going to let you go

and watch you make another move.

Why wouldn't you?

Let me ask you a question.

You're making the move yourself.

Why would I do that?

Flip.

I don't know. Flip.
Yeah, so I let you out of the contract. Yes.
So I can go feed my family. So you can go feed your family.
Yes. And I'm taking money out of my family's mouth.
Yes. Because you made all the money already.
I went away fucking six, seven years later when I didn't have a pot to pick. He told me you did that shit.
Everything was out the window.

I didn't see how anybody could even view me as profitable.

And I'm like, yo, dog,

it's over, yo.

Let me out.

And he's like, why would I do that?

I put this amount of money in you.

I bought the studio equipment.

I was picking the records.

I fought with the DJs.

I ran around radio stations.

I did all of this shit for years and I ain't really make no money back. So why would I let you out? I was like, I guess you wouldn't.
Yeah, but that doesn't make it right. I mean, Webb told me that on the phone, he said how proud of you, you found another way, and you found a way to make it happen, Joe.
I did the same thing that I just said, the blueprint was laid out before us. The people that I see make it happen, they did it outside of music.
But what if, okay, so then, what you're saying- If I were to stay in music, I owe fucking, who I owe? I owe some shit now musically. I probably owe some Slaughterhouse albums.
I probably owe Empire album. Did my publishing deal.
Oh, it's finished now. Salute, salute.
But shit, 20 years in the pub deal. I got people that was fly that I met up there.
Shout out to Jessica Revere, all the people that was working in that building. Hey, y'all have made all the money.
At least give me some money or let's just end this so I could go really feed my family. No! You know what bothers me a little bit? I get it.
But it seems like somebody who was so headstrong, once you got in position, you end up conforming to the same rules that was implemented that we were against. I'm one of the only ones that don't conform.
I say that all the time. What I mean by conforming is— The example is me.
I don't sign off my rights. I don't sign off my likeness.
I don't just willingly relinquish things. I'm not talking about that joke.
I'm probably saying the wrong thing. What I mean conform is that you're now speaking from the other side.
The other side of the table. That's what I mean.
I don't mean conform. You're speaking from the other side of the table, which is like, why would I let you out? But when you were the artist, when you were going through that, you would hope that a web and nitty would say, yo, all right, because I love you because we gave

you these promises.

I'm going to let you out.

You would hope that.

You keep kind of making that point you did a little bit earlier.

I continue to highlight the difference is if you are complicit in the system, then that's

on you.

Okay.

Yeah.

I, from year three or four, was trying to find a way out of this shit to never return. Because it wasn't acting in your favor.
I was unhappy. I know.
I was unhappy. I was unhappy.
It's not what I wanted to do. I wanted to bet on me at all times.
I understand. If I had an album, I wanted to be able to just drop my album.
I didn't want nobody telling me, hey, you can't do this, you can't do that, we control your shit.

I didn't want that.

It don't feel good.

Some people want that.

What I've learned,

and I've said this before

in this podcast,

is most of the people

that I'm preaching to,

the good fight of independence

and the union and unity

and the power in numbers,

they want to be

in the situations

that they're in.

They don't want that shit

you talk about.

It's a safety,

it's a comfortability.

It's more risk involved. Bro, it's a safety and comfortability in getting a check every week.
It is. Facts.
Niggas can say whatever the fuck they want. These people don't want to get up out the comfy living room and go make it happen.
So I'm not going to try to convince you. And I know that when I do try to convince you, if you hot enough, somebody is on the other side offering you something that is undeniable for you to feed your family.
We come from poverty. So I could be telling you, hey, from experience, hey, do it yourself, do it yourself, do it yourself.
Get it out, get out the mud. If somebody else come and say, yo, here go a million dollars right now.
Here go two million. Here go five, ten million dollars.
Yo, I'm not going to be mad at nobody for making the best decision for them. But I also understand how the game is played now that I was a part of it, fell victim to it, fought my way out of it, and now watch from afar.
What if you're in a production deal, right, and then every deal you try to go get? What if you're in a production deal, and then I guess I'm saying it right, and if you try to go get a new deal, the people that have you in a deal from a long time ago is still eating off of you and eating a big chunk no fam I invested in you you wouldn't be able to get that production deal you invested in me years ago and you made that money back and you made more than that that's not what a production deal is am I saying the wrong thing no no no I'm saying if you're in a production deal, then that's what you are agreeing to. You're naming.
A production deal is you're going to cap. We are going to build you and carry along with whatever deal you go get popping because we're the production deal.
We're not a label. If you sign to a label, you can't go sign to another label.
True. We're the production company.
We're going to develop you, build you up, make you a star for the label and for the brands to come fuck with you.

What if you no longer have a hand in making me a star? What if you no longer have a hand

in that?

There's no such thing as that when I made you the star.

When I made you the star.

Joe, you understand what I'm saying.

I'm responding to you.

Yeah, you're right.

I agree with you.

I made you the star.

I'm agreeing with you.

But I get the other side.

I get it too.

Yo, listen to this, right? Let's just say hypothetically. Yeah.
If Jay-Z signed Rihanna to a 360, you can't become Rihanna that owns Fenty, which is a billion dollar brand, if I never had Umbrella. You understand what I'm saying? I'm with you in that, yeah.
So indirectly, that person person is still responsible for some of all of your ongoing successes because if I never put you in front of the spotlight before then you never become this. I don't, I get it.
I'm not saying I do that. But then everybody suffers right? So I'm no longer going to make music or get the deal so you can like everybody suffers except the person that put their money out their pocket the first time to make you

a star. I'm gonna keep recouping

some money because if it was not for

my money, you wouldn't have what you got today.

And I don't think everybody suffers. I think

you the only one that suffers. Yeah, you might be the person that suffers.

You gonna be the only one that's gonna suffer.

A manager can manage his whole life.

An artist can't artist his whole life.

A production company can go

find anybody and do this same thing again, unless you're outlier a whole board you know the one of ones Drake is a one of them but other than that the game is the game do you feel like when an artist decides that they no longer want to be attached to the production company do you feel like that's like that's a mistake, or you should just always just go along?

Circumstantial.

Circumstantial, got it.

I think it's circumstantial.

I think that there's some marriages that seem to work, right?

Like, there's a lot of production companies that act as a TDE for whatever the artist

is, and it's silent, and they do it.

They work.

And you kind of want that.

You recognize the benefit of the relationship.

There's some where there's a lot of production companies that don't do shit.

Thank you. You didn't get to that next step without this company taking you in there.
I think you should be a trap door in it. I don't think that because you helped me when I was 20.

Exactly.

You should have owned me when I'm 40.

Thank you.

I don't think that. That's what I'm saying.

I think it's nuanced, and I get it.

If I put my money out of my pocket, I put you on a diet, I put you with the nutritionist, I paid them.

I put you with the stylist.

I got your X, Y, Z done.

You were not that when you walked in my office. You were not that when you walked in my office.

You had a voice when you walked in my office.

I made you a brand.

I'm supposed to reap the benefits of my hard work.

I still don't think, though, that I should be owning you for the next 20 or 30 years.

What if it's a fair deal?

Hold on.

Let me ask you a question.

If it's fair, then it's fair.

Because I don't think other people-

But what makes it a fair deal?

Like a low percentage or something like that? What if they just get a small cut of everything after they're out of the equation? I'm getting a piece every night. Yeah, just get a little piece.
I was going to ask y'all, do you think that Jazz Prince should be getting money off of Drake today? He was the one who discovered Drake. He was the one who called Wayne and said, yo, I got this nigga right here.
This nigga's ill. I'm going to bring him in.
You need to holler at him. You need to hear this nigga.
Yes. And that was, what, 05 or something? I do think so.
And I think that I think that's the... You say no.
Wait, wait, let him answer. You say no.
Really? I think the time's passed already. I think I made you enough money, man.
I can get him and go do on my own. Do you think that every deal should have an expiration date? I do.
Yeah. I do.
I was about to say this. I do because unless it's understood from the beginning.
A lot of times when we're making this deal, niggas make these deals. I don't know if anybody actually makes the deal and says the whole perpetuity thing like up front.
That's usually the finest of fine rates. No, I understand, but I just feel the lawyers of lawyers.
You go get with your lawyers. I agree that this business is predatory and what i mean by this is we we target they target now we they target the younger acts and there's ageism in this shit so yes but you have to go pay your attorney you have to go pay your business accountant your business manager your road manager your production companies and sometimes niggas try to your road manager, your production company.

Sometimes niggas try to keep the money

from the production company.

Lord knows I did sometimes.

You got to pay the people.

What you'll learn is an artist,

and most artists don't want to pay nobody.

Most artists think they should get 100% of the pie.

All of this is because of me, and that's it.

But if you're an artist trying to make it,

let's say you got away from the production company.

Yes.

Thank you. pie all of this is because of me and that's it but if you are just trying to make it let's say you got away from the production company yes in your next phase you have to pay for services still that money that the production company was taking for their service if you don't pay ace for services you ain't getting them you're not just taking money and putting it in your pocket.
That's true. It's like in my field, property manager.
Yo, dog, when somebody's managing your property, you might be giving them a commission. It's months that they don't do shit.
But then it's months when it might be three feet of snow outside and they get the snow going and you don't have to get out your bed. It's times where the grass be up here and the nigga cuts the grass and you don't get out of bed.
It's a service that you're paying for. I understand.
You know what I'm saying? So you get an optimum rent because they are doing a service for you. Y'all artists out there, to who this applies to, all them times that you pick up your phone to express either a grievance, an idea, a thought,

an action that needs to be executed.

Those ain't just phone calls.

When you pick up the phone

and call your lawyer,

I hate them fucking invoices.

Them niggas charge you

in 15-minute increments,

20-minute increments.

A lawyer,

when Lizzo or somebody,

when somebody pick up the phone

with a problem

with their Uber Eats

So, Them niggas charge you in 15-minute increments, 20-minute increments. A lawyer, when Lizzo or somebody, when somebody pick up the phone with a problem with their Uber Eats order and want to get in touch with the owner of Uber Eats, hey, I'm going to send a tweet.

But contact Uber Eats and let them know.

Contact Delta Airlines.

Yo, let them know that the airport treated me unfairly.

You calling in somebody with the pull to do this. Anytime an an artist wants somebody to get something done it is a service the point pay for it got it and that's how i feel that's true that's how i feel um i still think it should be a time a terminating point on a bunch of these contracts you got to work your way out of it like i agree with both y' of y'all on the Jazz Prince point.
Yes, I think Jazz Prince should still be compensated. He should be compensated the whole ride.
Or... You buy your way out.
Yes. Mm-hmm.
True. And it's been enough years to where...
Listen, Drake has successfully, for all we know, handled the Jazz Prince shit. Young money.
Young money. Mm-hmm.
Cash Money. Oh, that one too.
Whomever. His OVO shit with these people.
And Universal's the final boss. Universal is the chess master now.
Mm-hmm. But he has successfully done these things.
This one will be a bit more difficult. True.
I wish him all the luck in the world. I'll save the audience from personal jabs at the band.
Like all of that, you a bitch, and you like, y'all know where I'm from, you know what I think. I spent all last year telling y'all what I think about some of the behavior.
This is sad to me. This is sad to me.
I want to play outstanding or something.

Prayers to all parties involved, right, Ice?

Yeah.

That's it, man.

Thoughts and prayers.

Yeah, thoughts and prayers.

Yeah, man.

You got to read them contracts, Freeze.

That's it.

This could be Drake's outstanding. Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
If she's not a man, I'm not a man What is your face?

I don't know what that means

Let's go! Alright, we get back to it, we get back to it, I promise.

Shout out to those just now joining us, just now joining us.

Whoa! Shout out to those just now joining us. Just now joining us.
They try and point out to me. But it's whatever if somebody won't make it a day.
I'm more concerned with niggas thinking about Christmas in August. Do anything if I kiss for they daughters.
Get some shake, a brick, and a press. Sheffin' like Mrs.
Fields. They making a cookie stretch.
Yo, you're lying if you say you ain't gonna miss this guy. I don't give a fuck.
I know y'all new fans out there is trying to act like all the latest slaps

is the same slaps.

You are lying to me

if you're telling me

you're not gonna miss this guy.

Miss him already.

Been missing him.

What are you talking about?

Same.

That's what I thought

on that last shit he put out

when he was like,

I got a body double.

I was like, shit,

that's what the fuck

I've been saying.

That is not me.

Yes, nigga. No, go get you Oh my lord man Go get you It's crazy What else we got That is important Unimportant Is there anything else In music Y'all wanna talk about The assaults The OGs Is OGing boy Which one you wanna start with Rest.
For real. Nah.
Play around with these niggas if you want.

I don't like that.

I don't either.

I'm just joking.

I like Method Man's.

I don't like Busta Rhymes.

No, his.

Yeah, the situation.

Yeah, I love him.

I don't like what he did.

What Meth did, I get it.

Yeah.

Meth caught him.

Allegedly.

Meth caught his daughter's ex.

Allegedly.

At Crunch Fitness.

Yeah, Crunch Fitness and punched him in the face. And I think even that's very Method Man, being at Crunch Fitness.
Yeah, nigga. I'm in there early in the morning.
Is that who I think? I ain't in Lifetime. Yeah.
Nigga, I'm from the bottom. I'm in Crunch, nigga.
$29.99. Was there a reason given as to why he punched him in the face? It's just his daughter's ex and he hasn't seen me.
Sometimes there ain't no reason. You don't need to give a reason.
We ain't talking about it. Sometimes I tell the media why Merry Fistmas you up.
I read enough in just seeing that it's his daughter's ex from over a decade ago and she's 28. That's it.
That was enough for me. Sometimes the punishment tell you what the crime was.
Method Man catching you in crunch fitness and punching you nine times upside your head. Seven times.
Seven times. That's what they reported.
You know you gave him two more. Nah, he 5% or he don't give him seven.
Oh. You know what I mean? Nah, you take this seven.
You told him today's math, nigga. Yeah, that was all I needed to say, oh.
I'm with him. a dad that's right girl dads amen so whooped his ass yeah so shout out to Method Man I have no problem with catching somebody in Crunch Fitness and putting the beats on him yeah Busta Rhymes however beating his fucking 50 year old assistant is not quite the same to me.
I didn't realize your assistant was 50. He was 50 years old.
Oh, yeah. I'm about to say, hold on now.
Buster 50. Somebody said he was on the phone at work or some shit.
What's the article? I didn't mind that two 50-year-olds getting shaken. Buster might be 50-something.
But two 50-year-olds didn't get it shaken. One 50-year-old assaulted somebody, and they ran down the street.
Why they want to shake back? Then that's not two people getting it shaking. I agree with you.
I'm just saying, there could be. Hey, yo, you got to keep your eye on the 50-plus-year-olds that get it shaking.
Like, there's 50-year-olds that be like, yo, I'm 50. I'm 50 now.
Nah, a lot of these 50-year-old niggas that came from the time. That came from the time when you had to put your hands up.
They come from that. Which means, for me, if you violate them, you will learn.
You will know. I'm talking about the 50-plus year old.
Exactly. You will know.
I'm talking about the 50-plus year olds that are initiating violence out there. And I'm not saying that that's Busta Rhymes.
The assistant would say it's Busta Rhymes. You might have caught that assistant doing some bullshit.
The assistant didn't make PTA, another case of bad PTA,

or scenario,

or what's it going to be.

Put your hands where my eyes can see.

Yeah, now he did.

He put him.

He did.

So hopefully the assistant is well.

That's funny.

Hopefully all parties are well,

except for the ex-boyfriend. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not with that.

I'm not with that.

That's my take.

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, salute.
That's my take on that. Salute.
I wonder if Spliff Star was there kicking in there. I don't think Spliff Star was there kicking.
Yo, y'all hear the Supreme Court upheld it. The TikTok ban is officially going into effect Sunday.
Unless it's sold. I've heard varying.
Yeah, I've heard that. Varying story.
They're not doing nothing, and Trump is going to try to save it. I don't know what the fuck's going on.
I know my wife found some other. There's some new shit that they found.
Some new app? No, there's a new app that's like. Oh, yeah.
Some other shit. The Chinese.
Red Note. Red Note.
The Chinese people are mad. Who on Red Note? They over there crying because the white people came.
Chinese. They came over there and they started trolling.
Wait, what happened? No, it's not that they started trolling. My barber was telling me.
The Chinese people are mad and they're making videos crying because white people have invaded Red Note. That's what's going on.
Some some of them are being like welcoming, like, come on, Americans. Like, we cool over here.
They're writing in Chinese and they're showing pictures of them crying on Twitter. Tight.
Like, leave us alone. You came over here with your...
Same shit. Because Red Note is not...
Christopher Columbus behavior. You came over here.
You came over there colonizing this shit. They are tight.
Discover Beijing. Get your fucking ass out of here.
You can't come over there colonize this shit discover Beijing

get your fucking ass

you can't skip

ahoy

put your Nina

your Pinta

get the fuck out

my country

Joe you know

they upset Joe

what your papa told you Joe

he was really excited

about that red note

he said he likes it a lot

he said a lot of the people

that really enjoy

TikTok

were sad to see it go

found an alternative

and they enjoy

just the same

yeah Rem said

all her little

Thank you. play.
He said he likes it a lot. He said a lot of the people that really enjoy TikTok were sad to see it go.
Fountain Alternative and they enjoy it just the same. Yeah, Rem said all her little people that do the book clubs and all that shit on TikTok, it's a big deal apparently.
They're all over there. So she's like, I'm good.
On Red Note. Yeah, they moved it right on.
So the Red Note is owned by Chinese people as well. I believe so, yeah.
Yeah, it's not English. No, I'm just saying, but wasn't the argument this was a Chinese-owned brand that posed a security risk? Correct.
So we just transitioned to a different Chinese-owned brand? Yeah. I just finished saying that people will relinquish their rights and want to be there.
People volunteer to do these things. Yeah, he just said that.
I just said that. And maybe they don't take as much data or something.
I don't know. Maybe.
Probably not. Why the Chinese are mad, though? That's the funniest shit, bro.
They are tight-ish. Get out.
You heathens. I'm not saying that, but that's what they're saying.
Yeah. On X.
Get out. My barber thought that he found a friend in me.
He's like, yo, man, you use TikTok? No. No.
No. No, never had it never downloaded it i watch the tiktok joints when they make it to other platforms and and uh i got my girl login

just in case yeah yeah which doesn't make for the best time during breakups either i bet not

stupid ass me we had broke up but it was a light breakup we knew we'd be back together in like

Thank you. Which doesn't make for the best time during breakups either.
I bet not. Stupid ass me.

We had broke up.

But it was a light breakup.

We knew we'd be back together in like five days.

But she won attention.

So every time we break up, she got to go put on some video and go out and shake her ass and tits somewhere.

And she's going to film it right in the bedroom in front of a little stupid mirror.

And she's going to post it somewhere so I can see it.

But she posted a TikTok link on Twitter. And I was in bed, miserable and sad.
I clicked the TikTok link. Can't get in, buddy.
Click the TikTok link. Can't get in.
They asked me a series of questions. I answer them.
I get in. Three minutes later she sent me a text with the code that it sent her phone.

She said,

yo, dog,

here go the code

in case she's looking for signs.

And indeed,

I have it.

I have it.

Thanks.

I'm in.

I'm in.

Thanks.

I appreciate it.

Here go the code

you looking for, big dog.

That's funny.

That's hilarious.

That's hilarious. That's bad.

No, y'all skipped the major part.

What was that?

They asked me a series of questions.

No, the prompts.

The prompts, yeah.

You gotta fucking match the car.

Just whatever's there, and then they let you in.

But it's in the email.

Oh, I thought it was, who was your dog in third grade?

No.

Nah, nah, nah.

Oh, that's what I thought it was, too.

That'll make you a fucking creep.

Oh, you thought that was there. That was the capacha.
The capacha. The capacha shit.
Wait, that's what you thought it was too That'd make you a fucking creep That was the capacha The capacha shit Wait that's what you thought about me? Wow You talking to me bro You might know where she went to elementary school and what her favorite food is What? Elementary school Alright just to clear the record I don't know nothing about my girl As it doesn't pertain to me. I don't know where she went to school.

You don't know each other's favorite color joke?

No, stop.

I'm joking right now.

Oh, man, I was about to say, you're still talking to me.

Yeah, that sound good.

Her favorite song is Barry White.

Nigga, no all of those security question answers, nigga.

You ain't fooling nobody.

You didn't hear the story.

The nigga got past the second password on the phone.

I didn't know they had a possibility.

Who said that?

Oh, back in the day.

Yeah.

Oh, oh.

He is unwavering. This nigga takes resistance to another level, bro.
I used to be off. I used to be off.
And back before they had advanced the tracking systems and you had to just drive to her job, hide in the car and wait until she get off. Duck.
You gotta duck in the car.

And then she starts speeding. You start speeding.
Stupid ass

bitch. I got caught at the light.
No license.

She's zooming up seven times.

Like, ah!

She's getting away!

I did all that sick old

shit. Listen, Joe did that.

So hopefully you all have to go through that.

Sure.

Got something wrong with you. And we grow.
We listen and we don't judge. And we grow.
You still crazy. You still bogged down.
No, I'm not. Joe, stop it.
No, I'm not. You just met somebody crazier than you and I love it.
I love to watch you stuck. You met your match.
Shada is your match, bro. You met your match.
Yeah, for 44-year-old Joe, yeah. She couldn't fuck with 30-year-old Joe? No, it's not true.
She up on you, nigga, the way she be popping up? I think she would have had a handful with 33-year-old, 34-year-old Joe, but I'm in settle down mode. That's what they say now, right? He's much calmer now.
I'm going to give him that. I know he's much calmer.
You're going to gave her a headache. Yeah, I ain't even trying.
She had more frequent flying mouths than anybody in the world. You You're gonna gave her a headache.
Carmen San Diego type shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Flying around trying to cut your ass. We was in Starless.
I said, hey, yo, look y'all at it. Joe.
She's in the bar. I said, oh, she's in the bar.
It's funny to me. I love it.
I love my man. It's just funny.
That's funny. I let her do it for 20 minutes.
She ain't put that phone up yet. Yo, that's crazy.
No, I swear. I'm looking at this TikTok band stuff.
I swear to God. I'm looking at this TikTok band.
Show these niggas that you read. There you go.
But you got the up shit, man, where you press up and go to the different sections. Shut up, okay? Swap the app real quick.
I'm trying to figure my shit out. Do the swipe up real quick, man.
You want to tell us about your findings? I mean, it's a whole lot of nothing. You didn't put your reading glasses on? Like, tell us, what's happening? I'm trying to...
So you imagine... Since you're reading for 20 minutes, like, what'd you come up with? That was why it took me 20 minutes, because I don't have my fucking readers on.
But what happened? What did they say? They're just basically saying that the law takes effect to fuck off. But why do you lie? Man, give me this.
I'm not lying. Now you are a legend, son.
I'm not lying. You're lying about lying.
I was reading TikTok and shit. Yeah, she's a legend, son.
Read what's on my phone. No.
Right now. No.
Because you know it's's not gonna support what you're saying right now so were you reading

and thinking about something else

because you just said

this shit on the surface

she'll be in box

no but the thing is

let her read it

January 19th

that's a good one

anyways

what else

what else

what else

what else

what else

what else is going on

did y'all see

well hear

Wendy on the breakfast club

yes

I didn't hear it yet

I actually set an alarm

because I wanted to hear

the whole

I don't ever listen to the radio, but I wanted to hear the whole thing. And? How was it? She did sound.
She sounded good. I mean, she sounded distressed and all that shit, but she sounded good.
She sounded, yeah, coherent, I guess is a good word. After listening, I'm not an expert or anything.
I don't think she needs that guardianship shit that they have her in. This looks really bad for the judge and for the guardian.
She's up there like, dude, they control. If you don't call me, I can't even call out.
They got rid of the cats. Yeah, She was like, someone has to unlock my door for me to walk out.
Like, she described this shit like she's literally in jail. Yeah, some fancy jails is what she described it as.
And then she's saying the people that she's on the floor with are really having, you know, like mental problems. She's like, I shouldn't even be here with these people.
It was fucked up. Yeah, she made it sound like she was like in a convalescent home where everybody was around 80 and 90 and that sort of thing but she also indicated by what she didn't say that there was a lot she could not say for legal reasons so she had her niece on the phone with her and obviously she's had a lot of conversations with Charlemagne so she relied on her niece and for Charlemagne to say the things that she couldn't say.
Got it. Yeah, so, but the thing that most people took away from it is that she did sound very coherent, and so it just kind of made you wonder about all the reports that were coming out about the dementia and whatnot.
What we saw. I think when people see stuff, it hits harder.
The A&E documentary. And when they had that documentary on, she did not look well.
She didn't. In all fairness, I'm not trying to be just having a conversation.
Yeah, they talked about that too during the interview. I think that when you go to court sometimes, you don't ever sit with the judge, dolo.
Right. You get what I'm saying? You don't sit with the judge.
So whoever hires the best attorney, that's the depiction that they're going to give you. In your case, I'm telling you, even with your case, if that film was not available to be seen, my nigga now is at the who could present the argument the best.
You get what I'm saying? True. So if she never had an opportunity to sit with the judge, they got this big-ass A&E doc that's showing her not seemingly in the best light and in the best state of mind, then the judge is going to be like, all right, cool.
I'm going to rock with you. I don't know the process, so y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but there should be some level of experts on each side to at least evaluate you.
And there should be a re-evaluation period

or something

when it comes to this.

Because the person

I heard on the radio,

like I said,

I don't think that person...

You watch the doc?

I saw the doc.

So we talked about

the doc up here, remember?

Yeah, we did.

Now, one thing I will say,

she did get a little confused

at times in the interview.

On the interview.

Yeah, like she quieted everybody

so she could talk and then got a little jammed up or confused and was just like telling her niece, yo, you talk, you talk, you talk. But she still seemed in right mind though.
The way they made it seem like is she don't know what day it is and what's going on. And the reason why I think she said for her niece to talk is because, again, the legal issues that she can't speak on.
You know, so, but it just really- And she has a family that loves her. So why am I in this? Like, I have family members that are coherent.
They're able and willing. This is all the information.
They can take care of me up until my final days. What's going on here? Yeah, surely there must be some at-home care that you could get that would allow her to live a relatively normal life.
She was up there saying how she was trying to get down

to Florida or to Miami where her family is.

For her dad's 94th birthday.

And they're making it seem like,

we'll let you know if we're going to let you go.

She's like, yo, my family is not up here.

Yeah, y'all know me from New York, radio, all of that.

But she's like, years ago, her mom and her mother

and father were the first ones that moved to Miami.

And then the rest of the family went.

Like, we're not, my family's not up here. Her son was in Florida for a while on the dock.
Her son was in college in Florida. You're going to learn about these different businesses when you need to.
Same way we keep saying the music business is a business. This conservative shit shit is also.
It's a system and it's broken. Yeah.
That's a business. This is one that Kanye has spoken about.
Britney has spoken about. Some people have tried to bring awareness to it.
Wendy is next in line. If you think that them people are not paying themselves handsomely for whatever is or is not going on...
Consultation fee. And they already receive like a really, really hefty commission or payment for their role as guardian.
Well, I believe you. So.
Which is the grimy shit of now. Why would they now come forward and say, nah, she good? They not.
Right. Yeah.
There's no incentive for them to do that. Bro, Wendy said she got $15 to her name.
She's got $15. Oh, I believe you.
Well, not to her name. I mean, well, that's what she got on of access.
She has no access to her money whatsoever. That she has access to.
She got $15 to her name. That's how I took it.
The conservatorship is in somebody else's name, and they got to give me the okay to get my own spanky? What? I mean, how does that happen, though? That's crazy. Based on what you sign when you get in bed with these people? Yes.
They said the bank set that up. Like, it was the bank that started all of this shit.
If I make a lot of money and I'm getting old, they can make a decision to, like, that... Don't you sign over stuff to your family and put names, like...
You can. Power of attorneys and stuff like that.
Yeah. But if you don't have that in place...
So, let's say you don't have these things in place, right? And a bank starts to see an excessive amount of money moving out of your account. That's not normal.
It may raise a red flag. They said her son was wilding.
But she said her son was wilding. Her son was taking money, et cetera, et cetera.
We just objectively speaking, but you might have been saying, no, that wasn't me. I want to charge.
You know what I mean? And then they're like, yo, dog. But she was like, yes, I know he had these things.
I know this was happening. That's my son.
And let him, yeah. A judge in a probate court decides whether to establish a conservatorship, reviewing evidence to determine if someone is incapacitated and needs a conservator to manage their personal affairs or finances.
They also choose the suitable individual to serve as the conservator if necessary. That's the way we're going to be.
None of us here are experts on conservatorship, so I don't want to put ourselves in a position to speak on it. That's true.
And we don't know how it happened, how it started.

We don't know anything.

We wish Wendy Williams well.

For sure.

From what we heard and saw, it sounds like a really fucked up predicament.

True.

And hopefully them doing that interview and bringing some awareness to it can make a change.

It was good to hear from her, like her own words.

Mm-hmm.

It was good.

Shout out to Wendy.

Shout out to her.

Yeah, no, legend.

And she still managed to get her puff shots in.

She did.

That's what I said.

Oh, yeah, she, yeah, yeah. She back.

She good.

She good.

There she go.

She dead.

That's the Wendy.

Yeah.

All right.

What else we got?

I got a question for y'all.

Since Flip want to keep talking about loyalty.

Using people that are not family members. Okay.
using people

that are not family members

okay

describe to me

what your perfect version

of loyalty looks like

for example

off the top of my head

I would say

Alonzo Morning

slash Udonis Haslam

to Pat Riley

Thank you. example, off the top of my head, I would say Alonzo Morning slash Udonis Haslam to Pat Riley.
Okay. An example is what you're asking for, roughly.
Using people. Yes.
Your version of loyalty

or loyalty that you would like to have

looks like what through people?

Pusha T to Pharrell.

Tata to J.

Kendrick to TD.

Bleak to J.

Bleak to J.

Bigs to J.

Because what I like about the Kendrick TD thing

is he seems like he's doing his own thing yet is still loyal. I like that.
I like that one. And vice versa.
And vice versa, yeah. And vice versa.
I like that. It's some better ones.
Kelly to Beyonce. Hmm.
True. Hmm.
You got any? There's more. No, and I'm not going to question y'all.
Jordan to Phil Jackson, no. No.
But again, because some of these are in question, we really don't know. Some of us might be more privy to behind-the-scenes shit that they might have went through.
Adversity. You know what I'm saying? That they might have been through.
I don't know. Just a question.
What else we got? Big Meech concert. I don't know anything about this.
There's a Welcome Home Big Meech concert taking place in Florida. Sunrise, Florida.
It's on February the 13th and it is basically like a who's who of current hip-hop everybody from Lil Baby, Ross, Sexy Red, Moneybagg Yo, I'm trying to Bossman, D-Lo it's just a who's who of the current hip-hop scene the Welcome Home Home show. Notably missing, which everybody pointed out.
Jeezy. There's no Jeezy on the show.
There's no Fab on the show. I hate when the internet do that.
But it's dead if you point it out. Yeah.
What's all? We don't know what this guy's got going on. But what does that mean? It might be booking someone else.
It don't mean anything. Or it could mean something.
Or they might show up. You have no idea.
The four lineups. Yeah, unannounced.
Lil Baby, Rick Ross, 21 Savage, Sexy Red, Kodak Black, 4-2-Doug, ESTG, Moneybag Yo, Boss Mandilo, T-Grizzly, Babyface Ray, Icewear Vezo, Skillababy, PZ, Payroll Giovanni, Boosie, Young Scooter, and it says more artists to be added. That's a big show.
Well, there's your guy right there. More artists to be added.
You know putting this out, you know what putting this out is going to say without certain names on there. Yeah.
Even if they are added later on, seeing it right off the bat without certain names attached to it is, hey, that looks odd. And people are going to point that out.
It's a promoted event.

Yeah.

That's flat, huh?

That's a hell of a come home. Come home, man.

Yeah, listen, good fam.

Good fam.

I hope everybody at 10 has a blast.

No violence.

I'm not about to make nothing.

Yeah, for real, no violence.

I'm not about to make nothing of names that are missing.

Or not yet added, potentially. Yeah, what's wrong with a nigga just not about to make nothing of names that are missing.
Or not yet added, potentially.

Yeah.

Yeah, what's wrong with a nigga just not wanting to go?

Ain't nothing wrong with it.

Again.

My nigga, I might have took care of you your whole time.

Like, can all this shit be internet-ing?

Yeah.

Exactly.

It be the internet-ing?

Like, you don't know what I did for you the whole time you was locked up?

Right.

You my man for real. I don't gotta go to no

show to show you you my man.

Maybe I'm going and I'm just not performing.

Or I might not be going.

I saw you last week. I don't wanna be around them crowds.

I'm just not doing that.

Cause all the people

on that list is newer acts.

You know what I'm saying?

So I'm not signing up to no

festival.

That's what it is. Low key to no festival.
Yeah, I ain't.

That's what it is, low-key, a festival.

Big ass lineup.

You know what I'm saying?

So if we got a relationship in real life, nigga,

I don't have to come near to show that.

I don't have the internet.

Yeah, that I'm in support of you.

Yeah, not at all.

My opinion.

Agreed.

They was tearing five of your ass up for misspelling demonic.

Yeah, I swear that was on purpose. Swear it was on purpose.
Why? Demonique. Did you see how he spelt it? Let me...
D, what is it? Demonique. Yeah, N-I-Q-U-E.
N-I-Q-U-E. Yeah, that sounds a little intentional.
Like, there's more ways you could fuck up demonic without going that far. That was A-I.
He fucked up some words. He's clear.
He fucked up Miami. He was talking on the phone and said, Dominique.
I think he's leaning in. He's leaning into the bullshit.
I ain't going to laugh too hard because I'm at the age where, you know, I'm forgetting everything that I've ever learned. And certain words be kicking my head.
Nigga, I was stuck for 40 minutes with aesthetic the other day. I was stuck sitting there.
I was sounding it out. I got a hoodie coming out.
I had to look up hors d'oeuvres. That's a motherfucker.
That's a monster. H.
Yeah. I got a hoodie coming out.
I couldn't figure. It's my shit.
My nigga, I couldn't spell the word to save my life. What was the word? Ish.
Fuck, yeah, that's it. Like, yo, this shit was crazy.
What was the word? It's a phone. It's coming out.
You can't tell us. It's fucking hot in my brain.
Yeah, this shit did. They was on Lil' Kim ass, too.
Phones make us dumb, yo. Oh, yeah, they were.
That was funny. That was hilarious, bro.
Lil' Kim did it. Lil' Kim put a post up saying, been sending strong players up for LA and everyone affected by the fires.
Please send a monsoon. This is heartbreaking.
I pray to Jesus that God make it monsoon in LA. God bless her heart because she really just meant like, you know, send some rain.
I know it, but yeah. Yeah.
A monsoon would kind of fuck shit up. It would make it worse.

Mudslide.

Well, mudslides.

Wipe LA off the map.

It's also a natural disaster.

So, yeah.

We'd be praying for LA again.

Right.

Shout out to Kim, man.

That was good intentions.

Yeah, your heart was in the right place.

And our prayers are still with everybody out there.

That's true.

For sure, for sure.

Let's not forget to say that.

That is true. Yeah, I was in the news recently.
You called them? Not, no. I didn't call anybody.
Go to my picture and I showed the receipts. Yo, did you call the news? You started that shit, son.
I didn't start that shit. I didn't like that, but I'll let you slide.
Why are you saying I started that? Give me a pass, Flip. I'll let you slide.
You started that shit, yo. I did not start that.
Then parts came behind. I don't like that.
That disrespect was using your mouth to put me down, but I got something for y'all. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I got something for y'all. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
At the right time, I'm going to get both of y'all. I know that.
They don't put it down like you. Don't use your mouth to put them down.
Listen, Zsa Zsa got mad at me and said, she made a video, said, Flip, I don't fuck with you. You're not loyal to Stack.
I never saw you around. She said that the interview that I did with her years ago, I only invited her up there to discredit her information on Stack Bundles and Jim.
And then I wrote a tweet, not a tweet, but I wrote it on her post and I was apologetic. I'm like, you know, because she said, because of me, because of you, Flip, I don't want to ever do interviews again because of niggas like you.
And I apologize. And I stand in my apology because her story is important to that movement.
You know what I mean? What happened. And I don't want to discredit her.
Just my angle at that time was playing the devil's advocate. That's just all my interviews.
It wasn't intentional to her. Had plenty of arguments with Charleston White, with all the drug dealers, Al Poe, King, like all, this is just my style of interviewing.
So I don't, I didn't want, I don't want anyone to feel like, I don't like to hear that. Yo, because of you, that interview, I don't want to talk to nobody.
Niggas reached out and showing the receipts, your niggas reached out, but I don't want to talk to nobody because how you made me feel. I kind of felt bad because I don't know if I'm in a new place, but I didn't mean to do that.
Shout out to her. You know what I'm saying? Prayers and thoughts, and I hope that she'd be able to tell a story without sitting across a nigga like me that would do that.
And I was your man. And Stack? Yeah, rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Stack, for sure. And that's bigger you, Stack.
I love you, my boy. Because the stories be different, right? And that's what I learned up here, though.
Like, I learned up here that everybody have their own version of the story. If I hear something, if I witness something with Jim and Stack, and I know a story, because the story is that Jim left Stack in the hood, not knowing that Stack called Jim for some money and the bank was closed.
Right? Like, yo, we'll get to my, I was there. Me and Biner was there.
But people don't want to acknowledge that. It's easier to paint that about Jim.
Yo, you left Stack out there. No, Stack wanted to stay out there because Stack has his own movement, just like a queen's foot.
Some niggas is just in their own bag. And if I need something, I can call my man.
He call his man. Yo, the bank is closed right now.
Jeez, I'm going to get it to you. It just so happened my man got killed the next day.
You know what I'm saying? So people take these stories and they mix it up. So when Zhaja was telling the story, I wasn't discrediting her.
I'm just like, yo, this is what I've been through. And by being up here, I learned that, yo, her truth is her truth.
And at that time, it wasn't intentional. I was just being a devil's advocate.
And that's it. So shout out to her.
I just wanted to say that. All right.
I support it. I'm still laughing a little bit, though.
It's adult of you. It was nigga safe.
You know? Yeah, I made the news recently. I was like, oh, shit, what happened? Yeah, Zha Zha tweeted this.
Well, I'm mad at you.

What news outlet did that make?

That's not quite.

Yo, if you happen to hear that story in the New York Post

or the Daily News on page six,

please take Queen Flip's organic word up here

instead of that story.

Hey, let me ask you a question.

You let your mans get away with all that you and then.

You let these two niggas get away with all that TMZ called TMZ.

That's my man.

You let these niggas get away with all that called TMZ. I was on your side.
And on top of that, because you thought I shouldn't have these two niggas get away with all that TMZ called TMZ. That's my man.
You let these niggas get away with all that called TMZ. Flip, I was on your side.
And on top of that, because you thought I shouldn't have, these two niggas. I was on your side.
And you thought I shouldn't have did it, right? You ain't come out and defend like that. Flip wouldn't do that.
You know that, Joe. I called TMZ on myself.
You know me, man. I was on your side.
I said I disagreed with the streets. You wrote a tweet, nigga.
Everybody bigging me up. You and your white counterpart put a tweet out to discredit me.
I said the street said this, and I said that they were lying. That's nasty.
Would it affect our friendship if I maybe did think that you would call TMZ on yourself? Joe. I'm saying I don't love you no less.
Joe, what? I'm not saying I think that, but would our relationship change? In your mind, you you're saying why would they go to Queensflip and not a Melissa Ford? No, I never said that. Meaning like somebody, not dissing you, man.
Like you're more, you know, give me your comment, girl. Okay, sorry, thank you, thank you.
Holy shit, man. Sorry, okay.
Don't touch me. All right.
Nah, I was like, you can touch me. Yo, why you did that, though? Why you put that news out? You did that? You behind that? I'm not behind it.
I promise you. Yeah, I don't get...
I'm not behind it. Okay.
I had your back. I'm just...
I always got your back. No, that's just nasty.
I sold you. You sure? Did you show you didn't call? I read your tweet like, wait, what? My bad.
If you saw that. Yeah.
Is there anything else that is pressing on our minds, bodies, and souls, our spirits? Is there anything that's super important to get out there? I started Landman. That shit is absolutely fire.
Is it? I don't have a take because I'm still early in the episode. I'm doing Tulsa King.
I like it. Which is fire.
Tulsa King is fire. Season one or two.
I'm on two now. Okay.
That shit is pretty short. You can kind of run through it.
it. They quick.
Yeah, like 30 minutes. You see Severance season? Saving it.
Got it. I'm watching it tonight.
I'm going to re-watch it, actually. They never going to get me with the episodic drops watching one episode.
No, no, no, no. I'm storing them up.
I like the episodic a little bit. Me too.
When is something that I'm anticipating seeing? Yeah. Like, otherwise, I could wait

and just catch a couple of them.

If I have something

that has my attention

and I could wait

and Landman,

Landman has me.

Did you watch

the joint I sent you?

No, I don't know.

It was a Hulu series.

It's called Scam Queens

or something like that.

Oh, I just saw

the ad for that.

Yeah, so I'm like...

You just auditioned

for that, I mean...

Shut up.

Right, you just got... Hey, I am Melissa Ford and I scammed my team out of $700 a cake.
Just get the white titty cake and poured it off as a black ass. That was an ill scam.
Yeah, it was a crazy scam. Yo, we really sit down amongst ourselves and talk about that, like how you pulled that shit off.
Oh my God. You guys are going to have to let this go.
It's 2025. Give niggas back their brand.
Yo, what episode you on in Landman? Four. All right.
I'm on. I'm going to thug through one, yo.
I'm going to thug. Why not fell asleep on one like three or four times? It catches.
And I think that is so disrespectful to Landman. Yeah.
I got to see this. I'm going to thug my way.
Episode one, I feel like they get to so many storylines popping, especially between one and two. But just try.
And I am. I'm going to force myself.
You might fall asleep because it ain't so action. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a lot of dialogue and understanding all of that oil business. I'll get through it.
You heard? Cut the closed captions on. Because, like, shit like that.
Hey, closed captions. When the shit I'm watching start talking in Spanish, I don't need you to say Spanish.
Española.

In Spanish.

No, tell me.

What the fuck?

I hate that.

That's why I love

having a bilingual queen

next to me.

What they say.

Well, you've already

proven to me and Corey

that that shit

has its perks.

Sure, it does.

That shit has its perks.

Listen, and when I was

watching Dinner Thieves 2

and the coming attractions,

let me be phony real quick. Hey, the rest of this part ain't about shit.
Let me be phony real quick. I know I've had a lot to say about John Wick.
There's a new John Wick on there? Please no. I'm not gonna lie to you.
The ballerina spinoff looks great. Wait, really? Or at least I'll say that ballerina trailer.
You're going to watch it. Yes, I'm watching it.
They got you. I'm watching it.
They showed about three or four movies that I do want to see. The Russian lady.
And ballerina is one of them. And she is the protege or this is the next.
She's girl John Wick. She in there kicking ass.
Janetta. I'm not the biggest John Wick guy, so.
Me neither. I like it.
Me neither. Oh, okay.
Me neither. Yeah, I'm good.
I think I saw the first one. That's about it.
But if I'm going to watch an action flick, I want to watch it from a movie company that is going to pay to put action in it. For sure.
And they spend a whole bunch of action. They're going to do that.
Yeah, they're going to spend on action. He kill about 1,400 niggas per movie.
Per scene. Headshots.
Per scene. He don't run out of bullets.
That nigga cutting is different. I was flicking through the channels in Rush Hour 2, I think, whatever it was with Chris Rock and Jackie Chan.
I watched that shit. Chris Tucker.
I watched it on Netflix. Chris Tucker.
Another one that you just shouldn't watch with adult eyes and ears. It's another one that we should just leave wherever the fuck it was.
That movie, boy. Part two is the one where they went to China.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's the one with Rosalind Sanchez. Them niggas are saying that.
They're not making another rush hour, girl. Sit down.
Sit down, girl. But I watched it too.
They was getting a lot of shit off. They're going to take you to Bangkok.
That little fight scene between... That shit was just a mess.
Hey, Joe, you know what's so crazy? He might be the horny. Wait, hold on.
It just said what to now? He made a Bangkok joke. He made a Bangkok joke, girl.
Yo. Yeah, I got to be doing the horny.
I ain't going to hold you. I ain't going to hold you.
I'm for a horror I'm pop nigga Anyway That's funny yo We could talk about this That shit is juvenile It's some juvenile bullshit It is In film shit Rest in peace David Lynch Brilliant director Rest in peace Rest in peace Rest in peace We could talk about this on paper You guys weren't the biggest David Lynch fans I don't even know who that is. Let's talk about it.
Rest in peace, rest in peace. They're out there to play safety for the Broncos.
Blue Velvet, Elephant Man. Weird shit.
Lost Highway, weird shit. Yeah, really weird shit.
Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace.
Before we get out of here, though. Speaking of rest in peace.
Yeah. Did y'all hear about the dude that pulled up to the bikini coffee shop joint, got caught, and then self-transitioned? Well, first, I don't think anybody knew about the bikini coffee spot.
Yeah, so apparently there's a coffee spot where the women that serve are in bikinis. What is that? Kind of like in Landman, right? A little bit.
Okay, anyways. So the young lady posted a video.

The guy pulls up in the car, and she's like, uh-uh.

Like, he ain't had no pants on.

He was getting money while he pulled up to the window.

He pulled off real fast.

It was actually a couple of cars that they did this to.

And the video got to circulating.

So out of embarrassment, the next day, do self-transition. Whoa.
This one I kind of have been confused about. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that there was a lot more going on in his life.
It sounds like it. I would hope so.
Because the act of masturbating at the local Hooters or whatever the fuck that is and getting caught and taking your own life when you're married with child, I'm befuddled. I'm not.
I'm not. Not today.
It's the same thing we say about internet bullying. Yeah, yeah.
Like, yo, it's different. Shit used to happen when we was in school.
You know the little neighborhood story. It'll go local.
It'll be local. Yeah, he's right.
Today, something happens the whole world knows instantly. So to do that video getting out there.
Meant what? Your wife is getting pretty. Worldwide humiliation for you and your entire family.
Some people out there that got a video of me sleepwalking butt ass naked in the hallway. Not to compare.
Joe, but you are you. No, you are you.
You come from a different era too. Yeah.
Somebody else is different. I think as fathers we have a responsibility and an obligation for our behavior to not do anything that would put us in a predicament to make us want to remove ourselves from our child.
Now, I'm talking about a predicament. I'm not talking about mental health.
That's why I said I'm going to assume and give him the benefit of the doubt. And I said I hope so.
But if it's just this isolated act and it was the embarrassment, then my man, come on. Dog, a lot of people can't deal with that shit.
You know how many niggas are in jail for being humiliated in public and they went and got a gun and did something to somebody that embarrassed them and now they doing life? Doing it to you and doing it to myself, I don't view the same. There's a lot of people in this country.

Your life is gone. I mean, one, your life might

be spent behind bars, and another one, your life

is gone, but... It's a privilege to wake up even

behind bars. True.

Tell your kids that. Tell your family that.

Could you use that? And they have to.

No, I'm just saying, but you use that as the catalyst.

Like, yo, if you have a wife and you

have kids, and you allow that thing

that you are saying is small, I'm agreeing

with you. It's not worth

you taking your life. I'm not saying it's

Thank you. It's not worth you taking your life.
I'm not saying it's small. It's small with regards to you taking your life.
I think if that's an isolated act. Yeah, true.
I'm agreeing with you. I'm just playing.
We having a conversation. So what I'm saying is nowadays with the viral moments and all of that shit, my nigga, you could be a meme from now to eternity.
Niggas can't handle that, bro. Playing with your dick over some Tim Hortons.
You know what I'm saying? Like everybody not prepared to deal with that level of public embarrassment and scrutiny. Not just that.
Now your kids is getting picked on. Your wife co-workers see it.
Your wife's family members see her husband. Now, you can't never go to the cookout and get looked at the same when your sausage been on TV.
What did he think was going to be the outcome, though? I don't think he thought that's why he was going to put him on TV. Niggas just pull up, get his shit off, and what's going on? You're a little freak booty, horny nigga.
You're going to jerk off to the ladies with the bikinis on, but you're never thinking it's going to go viral. Well, one, in New Jersey, not that because we're getting serious, I'm going to be ignorant.
No, me too. I said sausage.
Y'all miss my joke. Cook out sausage.
Oh, you trying to ask me. A little pun.
In New Jersey. Big pun, nigga.
In New Jersey, at Hooters, they stopped hiring the hoes with Hooters. Like, so it made it tough.
Yeah, and ass. So it made it tougher for you to go over there and hit your one-two right quick.
They ain't stop hiring them. What happened then? The strip clubs got them because it was more bread.
The fuck you talking about? I ain't giving out no wings. And two, to whoever out there needs to hear this, ask somebody that's beat off in my car a few times.
You gotta drive to the far end of the parking lot where you are alone. For me, it was the multiplex.
For me, it was the multiplex. When I'm at the movie, yeah, come on, I'm at the movie theater early.
Gotta go back there. Gotta go back there.
All the way to the water. Yo, dog.
Let me ask you a question. Oh, yeah.
A little beat off in the movie. Let me ask you a question.
What's up, man? What you was beating off to? Something on my phone. Yeah.
I had to do it. Oh, y'all different.
No, I had to do it. I did that shit on the highway.
You never beat off in the car? No. Well, you stand up and beat off.
You can't stand up. You never beat off in the Sprinter? I laid down and beat off, too.
Beat off in a U-Haul or something? Yo, dogs. Sometimes you got to let it out, Ish.
Something come. My nigga.
So when the Multiplex was open, because this is a long time ago. Yeah.
You lived around the Multiplex. Go home.
Go home. The movie starts in five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
I ain't got the time, nigga. You got to get this out.
Yo, Ish, I've lived a life. You ain't never beat off in a car, ever? Ever.
Vanilla ass nigga. I've lived a life.
I don't want to talk about it, but I'm just giving advice to the people out there that want to beat off in the car. You can't do it at where they fucking shaking ass and wearing skirts on the roller skates and pulling up.
You can't do that shit at Sonics, nigga. Yeah, you can't do that.
That's, that's what I was thinking about. You can't do that.
You can't do that. You got to beat off over there.
You got to watch. Yeah, you got to be isolated.
No, but when they start getting good, you ain't checking the mirror. Yo, bitch yourself, man.
Oh, my gosh. What are you talking about? And this nigga ain't no pants on.
See, that's the problem, too. When you're beating off in the car, you just got to scoot them down.
You can't be pants-less. Right.
I'm listening to y'all niggas. Hey, the car seat, that leather seat, get cold.
But get your shit off, pull them up. Pull them back up.
Be on point. Be on point and go on about your business.
I don't know who needs to hear all of that, but. Money pulled up with no pants.

I'm on tissue.

Y'all niggas is freak.

That baby wife

and tissue in your car.

Giving jerk off 101

in the car.

No, I'm done.

I'm done.

Listen, if people

are going to take

their lives behind this,

then we can speak to it.

Yeah.

That's it.

Rest in peace to homeboy.

Rest in peace.

I'm praying for his family.

Praying for his family.

His mom's came out.

She's actually

trying, she's blaming the girl that recorded it. I disagree with that.
Me too. I disagree too.
I disagree as well. She just, because he was going around, they were getting calls.
But she wasn't the girl. She was the manager of the spot.
And your son might have traumatized this girl by jerking off in front of her with no pants. But if it's just a girl, then maybe you make a case of somebody just gumming up to you and table you.
Oh my God, who's this girl? She's the manager of this place and she sees a car out here suspicious. It's my job to walk over there.
Hey dog, did you order something? Can I help you? Why? Oh shit, you're getting your shit off. No, that's not.
They've been getting calls of this car. Of people doing it.
Going around, doing it. They got a call, so that's why she said, you been here before? Yeah.
And then she got him. Yeah.
You've been going around doing this, and now we got you. My nigga, who's just driving around with no pants on? That's not I.
Nigga had the Mustang. What kind of car he had, too? A Mustang? It was a Mustang? Yeah, what kind of car was it? Under leather? I don't know.
I wasn't pocket watching him. That matters.
No, it wasn't Chunk. Was it a Charger? I thought it was a Challenger or Camaro, one of them.
It looked like one of them. Y'all better get 42 Doug as Hellcat back.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, yo, my nigga, if I get a Ferrari like you, I might be riding around in some boxes, yo. I ain't to hold you.
Do you have tents? Yo, I might be riding around in some boxes. You fishbowling? You fishbowling? Yo.
Answer the question. You fishbowling? I'm just saying.
What's that? No tents. No tents.
Of course. I ain't buying no tents, nigga.
So if you jerk off, then you're going to let them see. I'm not jerking off in my car.
But when she get in the car. Hey, yo, Ish.
You know what I mean? I'm starting to think about it. Yo, you might come through the little boxer hole by mistake on purpose.
He a freak, son. Moving on.
Yo, you a bitch. No, no, no.
No, moving on. You right.
No, don't tap it. You move.
I see nasty, son. Yo, this nigga's nasty.
I think you do that other shit. We got really good sleepers lined up for y'all.

That's true.

Oh, shit, before we get to sleepers, I have one question for Ish.

It's my only question.

I'm not arguing.

I'm not beefing.

Shoot.

When the pandemic and shit was going on, you didn't get a PPP loan?

For a different company.

You couldn't get PPP loans for real estate. But you did get a PP loan.
I did. Okay.
But you couldn't get PP loans as landlords for real estate purposes. PP loans.
I read something that said, y'all got some little landlord kickback. I wanted to come in here and read it to you.
I won't, because you're a landlord. Yeah.
Well, I'm a landlord. I mean, I've been getting these shits off.
The overwhelming majority, because they've been going crazy on Twitter, the overwhelming majority is, yo, you're right. And there are other people that challenged me behind closed doors.
I tapped them out and they said, yo, you're right. I stand.
The biggest point to contention I saw with your argument was that money that you was talking about that it was handed out. The additional six wasn't the entire.
That it was not for the entire year. One.
The second was that Yeah, they dropped it to 400 in some places and 300. Jersey stopped in July of that year.
And then they kicked it to 300 instead of six. They brought up the median income in New, which was high.
That was the real beef of what you were saying, what I saw people say. You were making it sound like there was this overwhelming group that were paid more than what they were making during the time.
And they were saying you should isolate the median income in New Jersey, which is higher. So these people were struggling, yada, yada, yada.
I don't bother. I don't care to get back into all that.
Yeah, yeah, no, no. But again, I was speaking generally.
So when you speak generally, people in New York make more money than people in Ohio. You understand what I'm saying? But overall, nationally, landlords were affected.
So I didn't want to say, yo, in New Jersey, yeah, we have a higher cost and standard of living. But that also means that landlords have higher mortgages.
Right. And so the landlord's cost of living is high, too.
When when when eggs got high, nigga, eggs was high. They high for the landlord.
They still are. They still are.
You're right. When gas is high, just pulled me to the side and said, Joey, I told your mother the eggs I buy cost $18.
They are. I buy the dual, the 12 and 12.
And it's a class of eggs. You don't want that.
It's a different level of eggs. That fucking time, lose that time shit, nigga.
You got to get old enough to have the tough talk with your parents. Depending on how we signed up for it, they just put the click to cancel shit into effect finally.
Meaning like people that signed up for gyms, Planet Fitness, all that type of shit. Well, you know, it was hard to get out of it.
Now it's federally mandated. However you sign up, like anything, you can just click a button and get out there.
Oh, that's fantastic. Oh, that's fire.
Yeah. Because they was holding niggas to memberships.
Like that's crazy. You got to call a number and do some free shit.
Oh, no, nigga. Niggas would be like, nah, well, what had happened was you ain't read that fucking cut at the bottom.

Sorry, yo.

My DJ skills.

Shit, get the fuck out of here.

No, you're getting better at it.

I'm trying.

You're getting better.

Y'all can see white-foot glasses, nigga.

I ain't been listening to nothing new, so I do not have a new sleeper.

Again, shout out to Teddy Swims.

I think I played that record last week.

Yeah, you did.

So I'm going throwback.

I'm going with one of my favorite groups of all time.

This is High Five, and this is Unconditional Love.

Hold on, Mel, you don't know this song.

I do know this song.

You don't know.

What you doing this song without?

What year is this? 94? 94 maybe. Yeah.
94. If I was 14, you was 17, 18.
You was fucking. Definitely.
And I moved him in the house. You told us you never gave that nigga no coochie.
Wait, what? You be lying. No.
That's a lie.

You sure did.

Yo, you don't even remember your lies.

You are the best liar.

You are great.

Hold on one second. You are the Rocky of lying.

Who are we talking about?

It's on big mail, yo.

You told us you did not lose your virginity to that nigga that y'all moved in the crib.

I didn't.

I'd already lost my virginity. I don't want to talk about that y'all moved in the crib.
I didn't. I'd already

lost my virginity.

I don't want to talk about this.

You told us that.

I will come the highest speed

to the deepest sea.

I will do anything

for your love.

I'm getting to you.

You're fine.

Hey. That's no joke.
For your love Oh yeah Hey Let's go Joe That nigga clean you up That nigga right there The lead singer nigga Get the nigga from the floor Now he'll get a few niggas out of here. Yo, that nigga right there, I don't know who that nigga is.
Some people say that I'm just an old-fashioned guy. But I believe in love and all that it means.
I can never say no to anything that you ask And I really hope that you would do the same for me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah How far will you go? You lose your trust in honesty And that's the way it's supposed to be Unconditional love How far will you go, girl? Time, sacrifice, sacrifice Do or die, unconditional love I don't know what to do Girl, I'm head over heels in love with you And I need to know what it means to you With all this madness going round I really think it's time that we settle down Be my only girl And I'll be your only man

I never got it

Hi Girl, tell me how far we'll go Girl, time, sacrifice, do or die I need an unconditional love I won't be there for you, baby And that's the way it's supposed to be Unconditional Gonna be right there for you Time to sacrifice Do or die I need an unconditional How far will you go? I would love the highest beat From the deepest sea I would cross the desert land I would do anything For your love, love, yeah Would you do the same for me? Girl, now more than ever It's important for couples to stay together I never want you to leave me I miss this part of the song for the 90s Yeah I tried to do that on a couple of SLV songs Yeah you did Fucking Imani stole my vocals man man. That's dead, man.
It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough It's not enough Yeah, yeah, yeah girl Oh, yeah Condition of love My, my, my, my, my baby Trust, trust, trust You know what I mean? They lose a beat on the end for you fucking R&B niggas That's's brand new, very, very, very old music that is High Five. And that record is called Unconditional Love.
Love those guys, man. Rest in peace, Tony Thompson.
Yeah, rest in peace. I'm going to Houston on this one.
And watch that High Five doc if you haven't seen it. I don't know where it's at.
They got a doc? Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was.
It's on YouTube. If you can't find it, it's on YouTube.
Them niggas had a hard time. Played like the different strokes cast of R&B groups.
But anyway. No? Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, don't do that. Iceman, you've been old like a little square off, man.
What is this? Get your shit off, man. I'm going to Houston on this one.
The is called Turn Me Up And it's by Libra Jolie Let's go Libra She's fine She's smoking this Turn Me Up Halt can't fuck like me Can't't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't build like me, ain't book like me, wish you could like me It ho be talking all that shit, they wish they could Heard a ho been looking for me, I might end up wish a bitch would Turn me up, tell a ho come out and play, you know I lay shit down Her she mad by one of these niggas, but he my favorite now He call me baby now, and shit, we just met You really wasting breath, no shade, but this nigga just love I ain't pop my shit on the wack hoe in a minute I swear to God, I ain't going back and forth with a hoe, this ain't no tennis I swear to God, these hoes be looking for cloud, they in my mansion I swear to God, a hoe really fucked my beat, he catching feelings I swear to God, but you the man, huh? You fuckin' men's time Ain't got no Benz, huh? That lil' bitch fanned out I think she playin' now You can't be that dumb All the niggas in the world with money and you fuck that one Turn me up Bitch, you damn, babe Girl can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me This hoe be talkin' all that that shit, they wish they could Her the hoes been lookin' fuck me, I might enda wish a bitch would Turn me up, hoes can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me These hoes be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could Her the hoes been lookin' fuck me, I might enda wish a bitch would Fuck all that talk and I'm tweakin', and you know I'ma crash our demon Bitch, you gon' behind that dick I'm clickin' out, I mean it Runnin' her mouth, she teasin' Bitch mad, ain't got no reason Like a holiday, it's my season Man, these hoes got me fucked up I'm in that big body truck Fine shit, better get your money up D-Haw be talkin' bout going 50-50 with a nigga for a nut Bitch, I wish I would I could never be the hoes you fuckin' How you got your pussy up to a rich nigga and still left with nothin' Turn me up Ho can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me It ho be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could Her the ho been lookin' fuck me, I might enda wish a bitch would Turn me up, ho can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built built like me, ain't booked like me. Wish you could like me.
These hoes be talking all that shit, they wish they could. How the hoes been looking for me, I might end up wish a bitch would.
Turn me up. Turn me up.
Turn me up. Did that be a...
Did that be a record?

And that is... I told a nigga to cash at me some bread.

The nigga go cash at me and say,

I have no idea why.

Why would you write to just send me a bread?

Why you did that for your records?

I thought...

That little note shit is important to niggas with bad memories.

All right, swimming classes.

And again, that record was Turn Me Up by Libra Jolie.

That record was hard. What's her name? Libra Jolie She sound good She's from Chicago? No she's Houston I played a couple of records Up here before She's hard I wasn't familiar With your game That was hard I'm gonna play Some Busta Rhymes We put out a new EP today This is Letter to My Children Let me bust a punch A nigga on a rollout.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Shut the fuck up when I'm talking, bitch.
You know the rule. Rock up rappers way down to the finest molecule.
What these rappers know by spitting on these slaps, my nigga. Niggas are tempered, but they shit be sounding whack, my nigga They rap like two trains collided on a track, my nigga Blaming credit for the shit we father trying to dap me, nigga The original fashion forward advocate Dread up in hairstyles that niggas would never think of Pioneered so much shit, it be making your bitch bug I'm finally in a place in my life where I'm the happiest Bars full of punishment when I spit, bitch, I'm the nastiest I'm a different type of creature, request collabs and hit a bar as they start running far from the feature Yeah, thank your moms for the life she gave, beat you with punchlines that hurt, now you asking your moms to save ya I'm your daddy when it came to these raps, I'm the one that raised ya The weird child at birth, now you begging for me to change ya So I nurture all of my children so they don't see me as a stranger I teach them how to eat you niggas food and be the danger I think you niggas need to move from around me I believe it's safer how I negotiate with promoters Nigga, give me my paper Look, could give a fuck where niggas come from I continuously run towards what most you niggas run from Most these niggas scared to rap with me Now what's the purse bet? Better rethink all your favorites and why and get me your verses yet I'm still waiting, I'm still waiting From the high you want, from the Percocet Well I continue giving niggas beans and your squad hurts I give you spankings bitch, don't ever question how a law works I jump in the souls of the people and give them large spurts When I'm fighting demons, I be still making your mom squirt You rap niggas, I ain't here to pacify ya But while your father's present, I might pass the pacifier You don't want the smoke, so walk right past the fire And end up being the one left as another, ask for hire Another nigga lost with all the confused symptoms Let me guide you to the destination as your navigation system Your equilibrium fucked up, let me center y'all Big homie here, let me try to mentor y'all Scientists, when it comes to the culture Let them refill the baskets with rose petals whenever I enter y'all Shit, that's what I'm talking about They see greatness in bust a U-turn and it's like walkin' out Employees workin' hard as hell, learn what a boss about Fascination with sanitation, I love to toss em out My aspiration is to force a route And eliminate any possibility to source a doubt Feed you sickness that swell your foot up like you done caught a gout Throw this money in bag and bitches cause a coochie drought I'm nice with both hands, how I manage Lay up with my left and right Like I'm making a sandwich My frequency is powerful, niggas should check the bandwidth While I fuck you niggas up And continue taking advantage Welcome to Dragon Season Where we ballin' down That's Busta Rhymes, letter to my children It's nice to hear hear Busta sounding like Busta again.
That a double tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What you got, Ish? I'm going to, um, Horace Brown featuring Jay-Z. No, you kind of sparked my little, you know what I mean, back.
No, you did the high five. So I was going to play Shy, I was going to play some, you know what I mean? Back No you did the The high five So I was gonna play Shy I was gonna play some You know what I mean? Oh so his sleeper Inspired your sleeper Is what you're saying Yeah Today Got it Today Today yeah I was gonna do Change Your Faces Got it You know what I mean? I was gonna Yeah But I'm gonna just go Whole Brown Featured Jay.
Just the things we do Ha ha So bad Riding wings Girls on things Trips in this symbol Things we do for love Fancy cars Pretty cars Do you remember Things we do for love Romantic places in my mind Hoping someday I would find the perfect one And I just share And then that day you walked inside And no longer could I hide my love I had to take you there Sitting on a cruise there Selling on a cruise at night Selling on a cruise at night Raising to the ocean I'm living all your life Taking me to paradise Paradise, baby And I can remember Yeah And I can remember And I can remember And I can remember And I can remember is juicy Yeah! You're in them blood You're in them blood You're in them blood I shine with you with gifts of love But it was never enough To bring you closer to me Drinking money was no thing The simple measures that you bring my way Takes me back to the day we were Sailing on a cruise at night Sailing on a cruise at night Raising to the ocean On the moonlight Taking you to paradise Taking you to paradise Yeah, yeah. Welcome.
I'm welcome. and whole brown new shit.
Mootown, 3G, C, Bacardi, JZ, baby,

see you at the platinum party.

Ha ha. Ha ha ha.
The Granite Cards Do you remember Things we do for love And rings Girls and rings Truths and myths and love Things we do for love Fancy cards The Granite Cards Do you remember Things we do for love As things move That's Things We Do For Love, Horace Brown and Jay-Z.

That's the Eddie F. remix.

The time was had.

Word.

Fuck.

All right.

Well, since we're, I'm just going to keep the rhythm going with old school shit.

Okay.

Okay.

This is my pick.

Troop.

I will always love you.

Huh.

Huh.

Huh?

That's what?

Nah, I hit them niggas with the...

Spread my wings though.

Spread my wings though spread my wings Stay night Day and night, all my mind and every waking moment I try to figure out a pathway back to you Break me down, lay in pieces, show me all the pain you need I will make your special wish come true, yeah When things go wrong you need someone to help you see them through I will always love you When I need someone to stand beside you I'll hold you Hold you baby With this way I will be the very best I will be the best I won't be the very best I will always My love will still just start to run I did, I did to spread my wings though In you I find the reason to keep trying Baby let me take my dance to heaven I'm gonna let you shine for a second Let me show you, yeah, yeah I love you, love, always I love you, hold you, hold you, baby Yeah, Hold you baby With this ring I pledge I will be the best I will be the best I will always Take my body for your pleasure This will be the night I treasure Forever is my memory Love you Close your eyes and make three wishes Take my hand and realize This time I'll be the very best for you When things go on you need someone to help you see the truth I will always love you In night time When you're lonely I will Hold you With this ring I will be the very best I will always I'm playing with my DJ back now. Wow! I will be the very best.
I will be the very best. I will be the very best.
I will be the very best. I will be the veryPLs.
I'll be the best. I will be the best.
I'll be around. I will love the highest beat for the down sea.
I will rock the desert. I will always be.
I know the love. That's my favorite.
Rock on with up, nigga. With this we I pledge I will be the best I will be the best I will be the best I will always I will always I will be the best I will always love you Hey, man ready? I ain't gonna lie I will be the best I will always love you I will be the best I will always love you I will be the best I will always love you I will be the best I will be ready.
Show Joe the video. I'm going to send it to him.
I might put his bag in my rotation. Three glasses of Merlot.
That nigga start rubbing on your leg on the West Side Highway. Three.
Three. Water.
Some selsa. My girl Mel is right.
That nigga a nigga said some salsa water. I said water.
Any beverage. Apple juice.
Are you thirsty? That shit falling off the bone, boy. Since that Chicago nigga came out with his family.
Oh, my God. Since Facebook guy act, that shit is ready to go.
Y'all can't believe it. What? You feel for that Facebook guy? This shit went to Chicago after that.
Yeah. Big Mel.
Posting no pictures. I told y'all, 2025, we out of Mel's pussy business.
Don't do that, y'all. What? You hating on my man.
What man? Oh, nigga, that Facebook guy? Yeah. Yeah, his Facebook guy hacks, all right.
I told y'all, we minding Mel's pussy business. I mean, we not minding Mel's pussy business.
At all. Not in 2025, but we hear from the music.
You around. So you be sleeping on your around.
Like, you around niggas that get information when you ain't trying to give it. So when you play a little slow jam like that, real niggas can tell.
Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Hey. Little shot.
I was going to hit that with that shot. Hey, she ain't quite ready to go home after the meal.
So what you doing? She ain't ready to hit home after the dinner. Like, what you doing? What you doing? I was going to drop you off.
No, I want to hang out for a moment. Yeah.
You trying to be the gentleman. Already? I'm going to drop you off home.
Damn, so soon. Already? It's early, though.
That's how he get there. I'm wide awake.
Oh, man, he's sleepy. I took a nap early because I knew he was going to hang out.
I'm not even tired yet. You sure you don't want to go bowling? Yeah.
What are you trying to say? Can we just get back to your place? Oh, whoa. You did that.
And you did that so you could write it in a suit against us. Yeah.

You did that.

Keep my name out of that suit, please, even though I know my name is on each page. Your name is in bold print at the top.

And again, flip Trevor.

Trevor.

Trevor came, commented on.

You know what I mean?

Yo, speaking of bowling, I don't know what y'all are doing Monday night.

Me and Corey have been talking about it.

Let's go hit that new bowling alley up there.

There's one near.

Monday night. I'm with it.
Mel? Yep. Freeze? I'm with it.
Fuck it, yeah. When y'all say it like that, it seems like I'm forcing y'all to hang out.
No, no, no. I'm sitting with it.
Yeah, but then the audience. Fuck them.
We know what it is, nigga. I'm with it.
I never been there. I just be driving right by there.
Dash told me it's fine. Dash and them be gone.
They said it's fine. Oh, if Dash going.
Dash taste is typically my taste too. Shout out to Dash.
Shout out to him. Classy gentleman.
And live right there by my son's school, so he be letting me use his driveway. Shout out to Dash.
What? Transactional. Are we going to talk about it on Patreon? Yeah.
Or are you going to run and cower? Who? You. I don't even know.
I'm asking. I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm asking. If my man answers you, are you going to acknowledge the fact that you have that effect on people? That you have that effect? That you become friends with niggas and you don't value the friendship as much? He's admitted that.
I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
You don't value friendships as much as niggas value. At all.
But you value family. At all.
Family is the only one that gets a pass. My real friends is my family.
I got you one picture. Word tricks.
Get that nigga. I'm not trying to be funny.
My friends that are friends. Blue Paul.
Yo, I know him for however many years. You know, he can shake this sometimes.
I know him for a whole lot of years. I know him for a lot of years.
Him for a lot of years. Him for a lot of years.
You clock 15 or more with me, and we, on the other side, still standing. We survived some shit.
You family family. You family.
But if you fall out, you'll still have some shit to say that will downplay it, though. No.
No. I ain't say nothing about it when we fell out.
I don't say nothing about it. I try not to talk about people after we fell out.
I ain't trying to diminish you. Yo, if you were a part of my history in any type of way, I do appreciate it.
I'll show that respect and not speak about it. Me.
I'm not saying everybody got to do that. But, yeah, my real friends is family.
My mom called Freeze. Hey, the cables.
Something's happened. Can you come? Hey.
Dad. My iPod won't take all the OJ's music that I got.
Yeah, my friends.

But friends?

What's a fucking friend?

A lot of people get hurt by that, though.

It's a track record.

A lot of people, when they come out, yo, I realize later on or in the business transaction.

Because we never get closure.

I don't give closure.

I don't believe that you need somebody else to get closure, too, though. Not just that.
I agree with that. You agree with him with that? Most people don't give closure.
I don't give closure. I don't believe that you need somebody else to get closure, too, though.

Not just that.

I agree with that.

You agree with him with that?

Most people don't conduct business.

Do you agree that you don't believe that you don't need somebody else to get the closure that you need?

It depends on the circumstance.

A lot of times, niggas will step over.

Freeze, you cold-hearted anyway.

Look, a lot of times, niggas will step over a line where I'm never going to speak to you again in my life.

You can never return back to how I was.

That's the closure. When you see me in the street and I look like I ain't see you, that should be your closure.
Or you know what you did. So what if they apologize or try to? I don't need your apology.
Some shit you can't apologize. Some shit is unapologizable.
I agree with that. Keep your apology.
I don't even need that. You're apologizing for you.
I don't want your apology. Even if you're not apologizing for you.
Even if you mean it. Yeah, some people are just keeping it.
I know that you have the ability to behave this way with people that you love. I'm good.
I think humans, all humans, I believe to be pieces of shit. We all adapt.
We can all get shady if we need to. But when you get shady with somebody that you love, like was there for you.
I know the audience got a blast. They show you They show you that shadyest motherfucker in the world.
That's not true. I just, once it's

over, I don't speak to why it's over,

how it's over, how I felt about it,

how you hurt me. It's over.

Does it give you sort of like a,

I don't want to say thrill, but... No.

I don't get any thrill. So what I'm saying

is that if... I be hurt more than anything.

You ain't allowed me to finish this sentence because I think I know

where you're going. Does it give you a thrill

that people

mess up with you

and then end up

regretting it later?

And then they talk about,

yo,

the only thing that they use

is that I don't think

Joe valued his friendship

as much as we did

or I did.

Sometimes.

Oh, okay.

Sometimes.

Thank you.

That's fucked up to me,

but I like it.

No, it's not.

No, meaning that...

Because you know why people will cross you, right? People will cross you. We got to talk about it on Patreon, but.
Yeah, we are. People will cross you, right? And the only reason that they really feel regretful is because you ascended.
Now you getting the mud in your face because I'm up. If I was still down, you'll still be cool with your decision.
I know that. I don't know.
There's been people that's lower than me that I felt bad. Being around people, being around friends, and they may tell a story.
You crossed them? And I might have crossed them and I go home and think about it and like, oh, shit. You didn't realize how much value they added to your life? How much value, or I might have took advantage of a situation.
I've been on this journey of correcting the advantages that I might have took. You have been.
That's gross. You know what I'm saying? And I think y'all...
Yeah, but even in that, you got to live with the loss of a good friend. If they're on the other side of, yo, you did some shit that there's no coming back from.
That's very true. You lost a good person.
They don't have to accept you. It's hard to accept that.
It is. Because you would try to apologize.
I change. You want to show them.
It doesn't matter. Let me show you.
And then you start to think, because then you start to trick yourself and manipulate yourself to get mad all over again. Okay, you never really value me because my apology isn't valuable to you.
So, talk about it on Patreon. Because this nigga cold-blooded, this nigga ice.
Nigga silver surfer, nigga. Nah, I don this nigga talk.
Nah. My man, I'm trying to use that.
You just think I'm a good guy? Nah, I be looking at that number like here sucker sometimes. You just think I'm a good guy? See, there.
I think you a good guy. No, you a sucker sometimes.
Me? No, not you. Oh, shit.
You talking about me, he said it twice. No, when somebody do certain shit to you, my nigga, yeah, we could go to Patreon.
Yeah. I ain't with that.
But he needs it. He don't say it, though.
So? He lets you. That's a fucking trick.
It's like some fucking maze. I feel like Joe is a good stock to have.
That's how I view myself. Bitcoin.
If you're in it for the wrong reasons, I say Joe is a good stock to have. That shit going up, up, up, up, up, up, up.

I always felt like that.

How many big questions?

If you're not in it,

I don't know.

I told you what I made

already, pocket white.

I told you I 3X'd

whatever it was.

No, it was more than 3.

No, it was 3 or 4.

5 or 6.

Who counted?

I had to account for it

in my estate planning.

It's that much.

Yeah, but if you're not in it for the wrong reasons, then there's no reason for any of this to ever come up. We just friends.
Ooh, that's true. All right, man.
Damn. This sip was ready.
Feel this. Biggie.
I forgot to call you on your birthday. I don't give a fuck what y'all got to say out there.
This guy will be missed. This man will be missed.
I don't like the fall off

I don't like how the breakup is going

Between my love for him and his catalog

I don't love it

But

This man right here yo

It's one of the best times in music in your lives

In your entire lives

Listen man

Yeah I miss the nigga that was getting hurt

Dubbed

Played

That's why he did what he did

Violated

It's a good day. And you tell me you're in love with someone Listen, man.
Yeah, I miss the nigga that was getting hurt,

dubbed, played.

That's why he did what he did.

Violated.

That's why he fucked everybody's girl.

Yep, that's why he fucked everybody's girl.

Oh, but you did that to me?

Yeah, I don't want to talk about that.

I do.

You lose them how you get them.

How you come in is how you go out.

Look, look.

Joe, it's a case.

Niggas don't want to talk about that.

I love you.

You say you bogged out.

Something's wrong with you. I may be.

I may be.

I got some wild ideologies, but this one hurts, man.

There had to be somebody in your life that might have come out.

Yo.

And when you went up, you might have shot at the back.

Jay-Z over Drake in the versus?

Jay-Z over everybody to me. Jay-Z over everybody to me.

Jay-Z over everybody to me.

It's a hard one.

Look out.

Jay-Z.

You got Jake beating Jay-Z.

You're going to have to say Kanye West.

I mean, it's bias.

It's bias.

I think Hove might have a hard time with Kanye just because his producer bag,

he's got so much of his grace.

Jay-Z has a very hard time with Drake, too.

Very hard. 20 songs.
Anybody in the world has a hard time with this boy. Drake getting that pin bag.
Everybody has a hard time. Oh, everybody? It's no winning.
Well, who I am in my spirit and soul would never let me say that. Everybody has a hard time with him.
He can be beat. Because it's going to be about what people's personal preferences are at that point.

Song match up.

You know what I'm saying?

It's about your preferences

at that point.

This nigga's great.

Drake, man.

This boy's good, dude.

Yo, keep us in your prayers.

Lord knows we need to be there.

Keep him in your prayers, too.

This fall off is horrible.

Until then, I bid you adieu.

Farewell.

Adios.

Cerebidurci. Hasta la vista.
Au revoir arvois so long goodbye or a simple head novel suffice hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you remember that life is a series of moments and this was a long moment and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel. The closed-minded women want you to tease them things.
She ain't got ass. She's just sitting on a countertop.
Grab you with Tylenol. You might need it.
What's everybody's weekend plans?

Talk to me. Talk to me.
Talk to me.

Work. Put things together.

Some family shit. Family shit.

Alright, family shit. We got work shit.

Big Mel staying in town, huh?

Uh-huh.

Some working shit. Some house shit.

I'm not going out of town, man.

I'm not going out of town.

No, no. She here.

Love will be right here. I'm not sneaking around.
All she do is sneak. Yo, man, will you take the Amtrak at this point in your life? Uh-huh.
No, I'm just taking the Amtrak. Yeah.
Oh. I'm just taking the Amtrak.
Yo, everybody enjoy their weekend. What's that? Stay safe.
Head on a swivel at all times. At all be back same time, same place next week.
Yo, my man, my man worked for Amtrak, speaking of Accela. This is amazing, bro.
Yo, keep it real. Look.
This nigga's the greatest. The niggas is on the Accela train going from New York to D.C.
Nigga gets on the train looking weird. Like they said he was mad suspicious.
They kept asking him for his ticket, for his ticket, for his ticket. He ain't give nobody a ticket.
They stopped. They ain't stopped.
They made a detour to Acela in Philly. The cops came.
The nigga had a bag of guns this big on the Acela train. When was this? Just recently? Yeah.
Last week. Yeah, man.
My man works for Amtrak. And he's on a cellar.
And they go into D.C. So your man wasn't a nigga that got locked up? No.
No. My man works for Amtrak.
They said, yo, luckily the conductor took it upon his own discretion to get off in Philly. They don't know what would have happened, but they caught this nigga.
I got the picture of the guns. the guns A bag of guns Three handguns, two rifles I got the picture in my phone That's crazy That's crazy So keep your head on the swivel When you brought up the Amtrak I brought it up Shout out to him man That shit is crazy First class ticket Again, head on a swivel at all times We praying for the people inside and outside of these rooms.
We praying for the homeless. We praying for the sick, both physically and mentally.
All of y'all in my prayers, man. Let's do our best to get back here next week.
Same time, same place. We've enjoyed this.
Hopefully y'all have enjoyed it as well. We gone, man.
I don't know what I'm getting into this weekend. I got to see Shout out to the bitches that just go where the wind blows.
Oh, I'm just going with the flow. Just going with the vibe of the night.
Vibe of the night gonna get you crapped. And some crab legs.
Going to the Knicks game. Probably go get some Garden Glizzies.
Hey. I love a garden glizzy.
With the little seafood. What do you want me to do, man? Go home, watch a little land, man.
It's just crab, crab, crab, crab. That's even worse.
Crab. I don't think that crab tastes great with the glizzy.
Whatever. Did he want it? No, nigga.
I'm not, you might have had a crab pizza. No, the seafood spot is next to the glizzy spot.
Oh, they're doing a surf and surf. In the garden.
They're doing a surf and surf. I thought it was crab meat in the glizzy.
That's what I thought I was like, too. Oh, fuck.
Mel, get Tupperware. Shut the fuck up.
That's what you need to go do this weekend. When's your birthday? Oh, it passed.
We don't know. November.
We don't want to know. Big Mel.
52. I mean, fuck off.
50, the big five owners. No, it's not.
How old are you turning? 49? Yes. Nigga, you close.
You going to be 49? You going to sneeze at 50? I think so. You're a word.
I don't remember. You're 50.
You're 50. Okay, y'all.
Can we throw you a 50th birthday party? I'm talking about me. Actually, yes.
Exactly, but we're not inviting none of your friends. We're going to invite our own friends.
You know who we're inviting. Oh, man.
It's the Skechers. Blank Doc Carter turned rapper in a water.
Hey, separate fathers by their daughters. Hey.
Skechers. We're terrible, not you.
You're more terrible than me me She might be a plus one Oh And Mandy Yo I ain't heard the peep about Mandy out of you since she moved to fucking Mississippi You've never heard the peep about Mandy out of me She moved? I don't know I'm just talking shit to her Stop doing that to the girl girl. Shout out to Mandy.
Why are you getting in now? Now, dude.

Oh, shit.

Getting in what?

Anywhere.

Anywhere you want to go.

That's what he was saying.

Oh, shit. Same way I got in for the last 48 years.

Parking on the sidewalk, nigga.

What the fuck you talking about?

You can't park on the sidewalk with those stupid ass tires.

You got extra tires.

You got extra tires.

You got extra tires.

Enough of that, dude.

JBP.