Episode 792 | “Best & Final”

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Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. This is the Patreon exclusive, nigga.
No, it's not. I'm not just lied.
Let me just. I'm trying to get some.

Speaker 1 My nigga got the Michael Jackson shades.

Speaker 1 What's that shit he did at the motherfucking Super Bowl? Yeah, nigga.

Speaker 1 You look good, son.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like them shades. Yes, Rond, if that's what you're asking.
Yeah. I like them.
I like them. You got the gold shit, too.
What's that? It's gold plated? Them shits is fly. Nigga, gold members.

Speaker 1 Fly savies. I don't see how they look on cam.
They look good. They look good.
They look good, yo. Thank you.
It blended well, nigga. Like some tennis dahlmer shits.

Speaker 1 Yo, you doing? Who you talking?

Speaker 1 Yeah, come on. Yeah.
Yeah, she had the text.

Speaker 1 The levels, the levels, the levels. You fucking drop me.
Y'all try to send a voice note around me. Don't do that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 voice noters. Yeah, don't voice note around me.
Because she's so old, she didn't. Yo, hand me my tank top.
She didn't know how to select. I don't be saying anything.

Speaker 1 She didn't know how to press select and delete the whole thing. So, Mel, pressing her thumb, want to delete his whole year.

Speaker 1 She deleted it.

Speaker 1 She got nervous. Mel, what's up? How are you doing?

Speaker 2 I'm chilling. How are you?

Speaker 1 You look expensive.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Louis Vuitton from head to toe.

Speaker 1 No, these are both taken.

Speaker 2 Oh, my bad.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Still looks expensive.
I think that would have been too tacky.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 head to toe, Louis.

Speaker 1 That is a nice little suit.

Speaker 1 What is that called?

Speaker 1 All right, all right, come on. The trucker sweatsuit.
Go ahead. She's flying.
Go ahead. I'm not stepping on.
no. Get your shit on.
Nice. I'm complimenting you.
I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 1 Dude compliments don't thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I woke up.
I had some other shit on, but then I was like, eh.

Speaker 1 It's Friday.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and went the Louis, the Louis Cashmere Dickie suit.

Speaker 1 You got it. Because you look nice, too.
You got the ash black.

Speaker 1 You got the ash black for the shit. You washed my shit a couple times.

Speaker 1 You act like you washed it, but you made it like that. Yeah.
Yeah. give me a pass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You look good.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to see y'all. For man.
I'm glad to be happy to see y'all, too. Yeah, man.
Gang, gang.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How y'all feeling? Yeah, what's the vibe? Tell me the temperament before this starts.

Speaker 1 I would like to have a fun time today. Yeah, but you know what type of vibe we on today, too.

Speaker 1 Damn. Fun? We can't have fun? Ask Freeze.
I'll come up with what I think after you and Freeze talk. I don't think it's going to be fun.
No. And why? What happened? We can have some fun.
I'm sad, man.

Speaker 1 Why? Same. I'm sad.
Lawsuits got your sad. I'm just sad, man.
Yo, you got to pay attention to Freeze. When Freeze walking with some different type of sneakers, it's just some regular.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? It's a sad day. He's ready to sit.
That's the shit usually go grocery shopping.

Speaker 1 I'm professional today. Listen, some regular shit.

Speaker 1 The diagram of what's going on. He's ready to go on his back day.
Today's Freeze Day.

Speaker 1 Pay attention to his sneakers. I'm sad, bro.
We know. I'm with Freeze, dog.
Joe said the same thing over there in the corner. I'm sad.
I'm hurt. Y'all see, I wasn't talking much.

Speaker 1 I came here and just sat down. I was listening to you.
You had your iPad and shit. Yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 Playing Roblox. Worse.
Hoping some of the shit I was reading was... I was waiting for the joke to drop.

Speaker 1 Ah, yeah, we playing. Shot through the heart.
I can't wait to hear you guys' standard. I've been this shit too much, man.

Speaker 1 I mean, I feel you, but let's make fun of it instead of being sad about it.

Speaker 1 I spent half my 2024 making fun of it. That's the problem with being ahead of things sometimes.
Yeah. I've been questioning all of this shit for mad long.
That's the other reason I'm sad a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like, this is like the finale to my views ramp. Yeah, yeah, damn.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 this is an entire closed chapter that played out.

Speaker 1 Like, I've just been reminiscing.

Speaker 1 When I first got introduced to this nigga's music during the MySpace days, I'm in the car, like, damn, MySpace. I'll put the playlist on.
Oh, shit, that was old school, Charlene.

Speaker 1 Look, back in his bag.

Speaker 1 Back in his bag.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It's sad, man.
I put a little playlist on, too. Damn, did you?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 To remember the good times? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga gave us some joints. Yeah, no, my new podcast arc has been, you're the Drake hater.
That's true. But the people that know,

Speaker 1 like.

Speaker 1 Damn, man. It's over for my man.
That's that much. That guy.
I mean, we're jumping to heaven, but you can't listen to old shit no more?

Speaker 1 It's not the same. It's not the same.
All that shit is.

Speaker 1 It's been corrupted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the problem. Like, he's stepping on his own dope.

Speaker 1 That's the problem.

Speaker 1 He's stepping on his, he's cutting his own shit.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 he's having too much of an impact on his own fall off.

Speaker 1 From his style of jumping like this is this this this god damn it this shit says harassment parks yeah i know as somebody who just went through something with harassment it's like

Speaker 1 oh you got extra caring it's like

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 no some cares out there in the world my friend yeah but then that's hip-hop fault that's the label's fault everybody play a part it's the fans fault it is sad

Speaker 1 I'm so sad. I was contemplating coming in here and not talking about it at all.

Speaker 1 Honestly, like, I was going to let y'all just, and I'm not, still might. I'm just going to let y'all have it.
I don't need the blogs clipping me up.

Speaker 1 Like, how I personally feel about it, I want to be able to personally feel about it, but

Speaker 1 I'm hurt like it's me.

Speaker 1 I'm hurt like it's me in the suit, nigga. That nigga was, oh,

Speaker 1 God.

Speaker 1 Nigga, Paris Morton music. The fuck are you talking about, nigga? I started remembering the first time I started hearing these songs.

Speaker 1 It's like, yo, dog, man, let the legacy be the legacy.

Speaker 1 Like, at what point does PR come in? At what point do you factor in how you look and the effect this has on your fans that ain't just these new streamers that's since you've been pandering?

Speaker 1 All of them, all of them niggas. I ain't talking about that.
I'm talking about back in the day when the bitches was quoting. Come on, my God.
So far, gone. For years, you can put it on.

Speaker 1 Stop playing with me down the highway. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm in ram mode.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Early.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm shutting up.

Speaker 1 I'm shutting up later, man. I can't believe that.
How's everybody else doing? Ish?

Speaker 1 I'm great, yourself? I'm doing well. A little under the weather, but I'm cool.
Yeah, you sound a little stuffy. Tired, though.
Good clear up. You gave me...

Speaker 1 Who walks around with Sudafed in their bag, yo? People with people.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, got it. I got some whole drill in here.
I got a bag. He had a whole pack of the 12-hour joints, the over-the-counter joints that don't do.
No, the shit you got to get. The pharmacy shit.

Speaker 1 He had him in his bag. The shit with the mouth shit.
The mouth shit. Yeah.
But why are you coming to work sounding like that? Like, you sound your your sick voice ain't right.

Speaker 2 He's saying your sick voice ain't sexy.

Speaker 1 I don't think my normal voice is sexy on a microphone, so this might be an improvement. How about on the phones? Nah.
That's a microphone. Nah, that deal.
So no girls ever said to you,

Speaker 1 they front. I don't believe them.
If they said it, they lying. You can't get eyes in a voice.
All right.

Speaker 1 You can't get eyes and a voice. You got to fix something up at the fucking dick dealership.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 You gotta get some room for a leather. Now, some niggas walk in that dick dealership with that cash on.

Speaker 1 They come out with shit. They start bucking me.
Listen,

Speaker 1 take what you got.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what I got. I got some fucking behind the off-the-counter shit.
You got some off-lease shit? I got some off-the-menu shit.

Speaker 1 It's stupid, yo. Oh, I ain't.
Certified pre-elder.

Speaker 1 You ain't designed.

Speaker 1 Nigga, stupid.

Speaker 1 I went in there and picked rough around angels.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, don't do that. You know, it's a big thing.

Speaker 1 You got a nice voice,

Speaker 1 especially for broadcaster.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I'm saying. From years of shame, regrets, and angel dust.

Speaker 1 Cigarettes, drugs.

Speaker 1 Like, you can get the voice, but do you want the lights?

Speaker 1 Do you want to do what it takes to get the voice? Yeah, you got to be careful what you ask for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Oh, man.
Mel, you look great. Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
How you feeling, Flip?

Speaker 1 I feel well.

Speaker 1 I feel great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 That's good to hear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Feeling good lately. Trying to figure things out.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You know, navigating through the trenches, you know. You got them doing construction in the sleepover room? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. You put some walls up in there and shit?

Speaker 1 Nah, I'm not putting no walls. I'm just, you know, safety.
I'm just sleeping in the dorm. You'll see.
Fuck this ain't the army.

Speaker 1 That shit is not the army.

Speaker 1 The army is a step up. It's there.
That shit is hell.

Speaker 1 Got them niggas in a jail. Don't worry.
No,

Speaker 1 worse.

Speaker 1 Comment shop. Me too.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 I'm in shock too. Big jet blue.
We in our bag today.

Speaker 1 She got the jet blue pouch. You remember that shit blue? Belle's so old.
Where they put the headphones in now, Belle, Bell, you take the airplane pouches with you home.

Speaker 2 No, that's my case for my greeters.

Speaker 1 She's still. You got a jet blue case for your readers? No, it's

Speaker 1 not slave, but

Speaker 1 all right. Okay.
You know what I'm talking about, though, Joe? That was a nice little ad. Good shit.
I'm buying it.

Speaker 1 Until they get some bucket, fuck that. Mel all about it.

Speaker 1 Well, shout somebody else out, but I know that. She got ass shit off jewels, though.

Speaker 2 And you can bleep that shit out.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Harrington. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll shout now, man.

Speaker 1 I'm in shock.

Speaker 1 Mic check, mic check, one two, one, two.

Speaker 1 Everybody get their mic check on. Yeah, y'all get it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you heard, man.

Speaker 1 Manga.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's go. So, if you rebuke me for working with someone else on a couple of V's, what do you really think of the nigga that's making your beats?

Speaker 1 I've done things for him, I thought they were different with me. Father had to stretch his hands out and get it from me.
I pop style for 30 hours, then let him repeat.

Speaker 1 Now you popping up with the jokes, I'm dead, I'm asleep. I just left him over by y'all putting pen to the sheets.
Tired of sitting quiet and helping my enemies eat.

Speaker 1 Keeping my temperature checks, you know that my head over heats. Don't know why the fuck you need to be dealing with a sleep.
Must have had your infrared grown, now you're heading a beat.

Speaker 1 Wherever you might be listening from. Don't push me when I'm in album mode.
You're not even top five as far as yours. Always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 That's what I gotta challenge, though.

Speaker 1 But I bring calicos to the Alamo. I can never have a Virgil in my circle and hold him back if he makes me nervous.
I wanna see my brothers flourish to their higher purpose.

Speaker 1 You niggas lead you to service. I think it's good now.
The teachers are learning.

Speaker 1 Your brother said it was your cousin, and him, then you. So you don't rap what you did, you just rap what you knew.
Don't be ashamed, there's plenty niggas that do what you do.

Speaker 1 There's no malice in your heart, you're an approachable dude.

Speaker 1 Yo, I never heard that before.

Speaker 1 You never heard that? Damn.

Speaker 1 This boy.

Speaker 1 Sheesh.

Speaker 1 That nigga's really sad. Look at these niggas.
Nigga, this isn't a big deal.

Speaker 1 What's the name of that song? Duppy. Duppy.
Duppy Freestyle.

Speaker 1 Man, you might have sold the college kids for Nike Mercedes, but you act like you sold drugs for Esteban in the 80s. I had a microphone of yours, but then the signature faded.

Speaker 1 I think that pretty much resembles what's been happening lately. Please believe your demise would be televised.

Speaker 1 And as for Q, man, I changed his life a couple times. Nigga was at Kroger work a couple times.
I like it like you made the boy when I was trying to help the guy.

Speaker 1 Who gasked you to play with me? Man, you made this shit as easy as ABCs. Whoever's supposed to be making me hits, ain't got no hits, sound like they need me.

Speaker 1 My crooks did it, my lyrics need it.

Speaker 1 Whoever did it, I'm fearless with it.

Speaker 1 I really shouldn't be giving you none of my time. Cause you older than a nigga, you running behind.
Look, holler at me when you're multi-million. I told you, keep playing with my name.

Speaker 1 And I'ma let it ring on you like a Junior Williams.

Speaker 1 I'm too resilient, get out your feelings.

Speaker 1 It's gon' be a cool summer for you. I told you,

Speaker 1 baby, I was done with you.

Speaker 1 Tell Yay, we got an invoice coming to you.

Speaker 1 Set her in and we just sold another 20 for you.

Speaker 1 All you self-promoters are janky. We established as you thankers.
This whole fucking game thankless. We moving militant, but somehow you the one tanking.
No limit to why I could take it.

Speaker 1 And you know me as a Chris bottle sender. Check pick up.

Speaker 1 I thought we looked out for one another. So I saw these brothers in a struggle, too blessed to be humble.
I guess it's different in the city I come from.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, I got people showing how much they truly resent me.

Speaker 1 They hold a meaning, dispels envy. They tryna tip me.

Speaker 1 The higher I get, the less they accept me. Even had the OGs tryna press me.

Speaker 1 No way out, cause I'm already in it.

Speaker 1 I'm not attending when I do a show and get a ticket. Good business can clean millions.
I gotta

Speaker 1 have it since you're not. Y'all good, Y'all look focused.

Speaker 1 Even back when I wasn't his pop

Speaker 1 when they told me take an RB nigga on the road. And I told him no.
And Drew for Kendrick and Rocky. I tried to make the right choices with the world.
Watching Mike never tried to rap like Pac.

Speaker 1 Pac never tried to sing like Mike. Those my dad's words to me when I asked him.

Speaker 1 My mother gave the greatest advice.

Speaker 1 Look at me now. They look at me like the golden child.

Speaker 1 Especially not right now.

Speaker 1 Certain shit is just too wild to reconcile. Take that, take that.
No love in their heart, so they fake that. The caprio level, the way they play that.
Damn, nigga, what is that?

Speaker 1 Y'all hit up songs, then hit my phone like you did that.

Speaker 1 We always want some shit like when we not get a favor. Where my bitch at? Like, I'm about to tell you where she's been at.
Costa Correas, I got her kidnapped. She ain't sorry, and I ain't sorry.

Speaker 1 It's too late for sorry. Green, white, and red on my body, cause I'm dipped in Ferrari.
All she wanna do is get high and listen to party. She complain, I tell the driver to drop at Barney's.

Speaker 1 My summer diet is just Rose and Calamart.

Speaker 1 Look, now you got me starting. I'm the black sheep, rest in peace to Chris Farley.
I got a lot to lose, cause in every situation, I'm the bigger artist, always got a plan smarter.

Speaker 1 Y'all shook up, I'm here on the cook up. Cameras pointing every time I look up.
That's why I got a duck behind Chubb's shoulder just to hit the cush up. Sponsorship dollars are sky high.

Speaker 1 He be like Drake, will you please stop? Smoking la la, chubs, why I try. I'm a thug, I'm a diehot.
Got the rose pink tinted lenses. It's a Wednesday,

Speaker 1 ultimate check taking the mentions. They redoing the entrance.
Not yet. Yeah, redoing the entrance.
Kinda like when you niggas drop on some again and again, shit.

Speaker 1 And you still never quite get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I make you dance in this. I roll big body, wide bodies.
Calabashes, road wind up, sun shining, wax tires. See, Chris Jenner, I beep twice and I wave the rest.
Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Grip the A, beep, beep.

Speaker 1 There go Chris Jenner right there in the morning, getting some Starbucks. Chris Jenner with A, beep.

Speaker 1 These guys move so greasy now.

Speaker 1 I tell you my life, and y'all don't believe me when I say it.

Speaker 1 Save my stories for down the line. I'm too ahead of the curve, every time.

Speaker 1 That's WE, cause you're weak, and I'm always, always on the low mouth,

Speaker 1 oh man, I've never heard that before neither. Really? Oh, you didn't have SoundCloud.

Speaker 1 But he got Apple Music late. Oh, that's true.
He didn't just get Apple Music, so Sound of Cloud is

Speaker 1 on the Calibrate Reach.

Speaker 1 This looks like great.

Speaker 1 Flip and Mel, Mel, Mel, Mel. What episode is this? 792.
Welcome to episode 792 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, prize pigs, prize pigs, gang.

Speaker 1 I am your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here, host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You know her name, you know the vibes, you know her body.

Speaker 1 Big Melissa Ford, M4, Hooli Hoo.

Speaker 1 How you doing, Mel?

Speaker 2 I'm great, fabulous. Love to be here.

Speaker 1 Good, good. Next to her, Queen's Flip.

Speaker 1 Next to her, Queens Flip, Queens get the money. You know what time it is.
How you doing? I'm good. You know, in the building.
Good. I ain't gonna say all that extra shit, but

Speaker 1 we'll get her later. That's extra.
Yeah. We'll get her later.

Speaker 1 Next to Flip, come on, King Wawa. It's just in the building.
Nigga, like charcoal, nigga. Let's get it.

Speaker 1 A little under the weather, but he's here. He is.
Team player. He is here.
And I commend you.

Speaker 1 I commend you. I didn't think you would come.

Speaker 1 I didn't think you would come. Because

Speaker 1 this is your man. You got to be heard like me.

Speaker 1 You got to be heard like me. But that's not my man.

Speaker 1 Well, up here, we think that's your man. Yeah.
Up here, that's your man. Up here.
The narrative is that your man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we think that's your.

Speaker 1 So I was like, damn, I know this guy. You got to come in and speak to some of this shit.
You okay?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 You may look at it different from how everybody else look at it, right?

Speaker 1 It's just a man, yo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll talk about it when we're going to be able to.

Speaker 1 I can't. Yeah, man.
Wow. Next to him, Elizabeth's finest.

Speaker 1 The freeziest of them all. Big ice is in the building.

Speaker 1 He took that Ravens gear off. Took that shit right off.
Fast after the bet was over. Send a dog cage, the shirt.
Oh, my lord. Who's the hat? Threw it out.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And last but certainly not least, big, Big Parks is in the building. Elmira's finest.
What's popping? Engineer tooth them all also. Corey is here.
Poe is here. Erickson is here.
Keeb is here.

Speaker 1 Ian is here. Savon and Tan are here by remote.
Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here.

Speaker 1 Come on, someone, read these charges. Come on, let's get to it.

Speaker 1 Let's get to it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to waste any time. Straight to it, nigga.

Speaker 1 What's in the suit? We left. He dropped the suit against UMG and Spotify.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't a suit. It was

Speaker 1 a suit. I mean, the petition.

Speaker 1 And there was some wording in there. Listen, I'm not a fat guy.
Somebody pull this shit up because I'm sitting there. I'm about to cry.
All right? I am uneasy today. I'm way too uneasy nowadays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is like the hip-hop I love has fucking got, it's just gone now.

Speaker 1 It's gone.

Speaker 1 Hip-hop might be dead.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 I just feel like, I feel like when

Speaker 1 third bass was out

Speaker 1 and when MC Hammer was out, and Kwame and Kidd and Play and that era, and I was in my bag, and my uncles and my older cousins would come over and just be like disgusted.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, look what they did. Look what they're doing.
The fucking hip-hop. Like, shut up, old guy.
Like, I feel like that guy. Like, whatever it is, it's they

Speaker 1 got it, dog.

Speaker 1 We doing this for diss tracks?

Speaker 1 Disgusting.

Speaker 1 It's nasty, man.

Speaker 1 Like we said, he dropped the

Speaker 1 petition and has now filed the defamation and harassment suit. But the interesting thing in there was UMG's position, which is

Speaker 1 Spotify was like, all right, we agree, go ahead. And UMG was like, nah, we reserve our same position.

Speaker 1 We not copping and nothing. Whatever you're doing, you just go do it.

Speaker 1 You know what time it is with us. That was interesting.

Speaker 1 And I've been saying forever that. I mean, I guess now so much has just come to light, right? Like, how long have they been beefing?

Speaker 1 For a while, I'm sure. What is that?

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 1 What does it look like, and when can you identify it in his career? I would identify it around Certified Lover Boy when he started putting out leak record

Speaker 1 as album. I think that's...
Scorpion.

Speaker 1 I was always saying, you can hear it. That's the same thing I always say.
Right after Scorpion is where it just.

Speaker 1 It wouldn't certified Loverboy be the next album? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was it next? No, not next. He did projects after that.
Yeah, he did dark demo. Yeah,

Speaker 1 but all of that to me just. Yeah, that's all the same conversation I'm having where he started just putting out leak records and demos and freestyles

Speaker 1 for lack of better terms. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was something there where it's like, I'm not giving y'all my top-tier work no more. Yeah.
We're beefing over something, whatever it is, whether, you you know,

Speaker 1 I want a bigger deal, I'm holding out and negotiating.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is, wasn't it coincidentally that around the same time that he got that outrageous, whatever that was, half a billion-dollar deal or something like that?

Speaker 1 Wasn't that in that same ballpark? I think it was post-Scorpion. It's when I came on the pod.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What year was Scorpion? Yeah, and then they were

Speaker 1 so we can get this in time order. 2018, I believe.
And he got 400 from UMG in like 1919.

Speaker 1 The deal was 2022, the $400 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right there.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it could have been, maybe I wasn't happy with that deal.

Speaker 1 No, they paid him.

Speaker 1 Or we don't know the particulars of the deal. We don't know shit.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not here to pretend I do. Yeah, because it could be something bigger than just the bread.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It could be some other shit. Definitely something bigger than the bread.

Speaker 2 Well, how about UMG's response?

Speaker 1 Well, real quick, I remember when Joe came up here and he was saying that

Speaker 1 he was saying that Drake is traveling too much or touring too much, if you remember that.

Speaker 1 Joe, like, you're not even getting any rest. You're not resting.
You know what I mean? You said that you have some issues with you personally. You're not resting.
Something is going on.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? That's something that stick out to me. when I look at these complaints and look at the unhappiness.

Speaker 1 And there was the rumblings when all those projects were coming out that, all right, he's trying to speed through. He's trying to speed through a contract.
He's unhappy. He's something.

Speaker 1 He's working on something. But again, who knows? Yeah, we don't know.
Nobody knows. We don't know.
But I just want to track it artistically as well. That's all.

Speaker 1 Artistically, for me, it was after Scorpion. I'm with y'all.
But go ahead. Yeah, right after Scorpion.

Speaker 1 That's where you can hear the difference. And I'm with you.
I do think it was throwaways. Yeah, I think he did the shit.

Speaker 1 He's just my A1 work that I have, I'm keeping it for whatever, whether it be post-deal or independent, whatever the case may be. Y'all not getting this right now.

Speaker 1 But I still have contractual obligations, so I'm not doing a complete stoppage. I think that's a mistake.
The shit he said to Shorty.

Speaker 1 It's a mistake.

Speaker 1 The shit he said to Shorty. Which part? Who Bobby?

Speaker 1 Johnny Blaze, right? Wasn't that?

Speaker 1 Oh, the dude. He was like, yo, I got, you know what I'm saying? I'm on tour.
I got to get out of this bullshit deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think he really feels like that.

Speaker 1 I think that was he was talking about the touring deal. I'm just saying, but

Speaker 1 I think that whatever his

Speaker 1 whatever his circumstances are, I think he has,

Speaker 1 I think he's got a peek into the other side. Again, this is money above our pay grade.
I just think that he's gotten a peek into the other side.

Speaker 1 And the shit that other people would be happy for, he may not necessarily be happy for.

Speaker 1 Because I'm generating y'all niggas way, way, way more money than y'all giving me. Now I want more.
And y'all might be looking at me like an artist that shut up and dribble. But you might not want to.

Speaker 1 Ish, what's way more money, right? If somebody gives you $400,000 and you're making them a billion.

Speaker 1 You just want a million and you make them $5 billion.

Speaker 1 So that's that's the okay. You get what I'm saying? It has to be that wide of a margin.
Because what I'm saying is that if you get $400 million and you make a billion, they're just breaking.

Speaker 1 But that's that deal. I've made y'all billions before this deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, didn't we come up with like a figure up here? Like

Speaker 1 that billion dollars.

Speaker 1 That deal, that $400 million deal deal came before um certified level boy and all that look at his catalog before that got it i've been major we passed a b that's the shit we was talking about with michael jordan yes michael jordan got 25 million 30 million dollars in the last two years but look at the money that chicago bulls have generated look at the city of chicago and the money they generated look at fucking selling pepsis in the league the league dog when you go buy laker tickets right now i looked at laker tickets to go to the cow uh the dc game dog laker tickets be higher than every other tickets.

Speaker 1 So you got to kind of contribute some of that bread to LeBron and them, even though it ain't necessarily in LA. Any city we go to, we generating revenue around, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like Floyd said that. Floyd was like, yo, when I fight, the cabs, the hotels, the fucking casinos, everybody benefits off of me fighting.
Right.

Speaker 1 So for a nigga to feel like they didn't get their just due,

Speaker 1 they might be right. Could be.
Could be.

Speaker 1 What are some of the complaints that the charges that

Speaker 1 Drake accused UMG of doing? And while you do that, I just want to add,

Speaker 1 he is the one that, throughout multiple songs, was telling you for years about why he could never go independent.

Speaker 1 He was the one for years telling you how great of a relationship that he had with Lucien and Universal.

Speaker 1 He has thrown his status in every artist's face.

Speaker 1 That's true. To say, I am in a different position.

Speaker 1 The game is the game,

Speaker 1 and no, you are not.

Speaker 1 There is nobody that we've seen or that I can think of that has proved to ever be bigger than the system.

Speaker 1 And when you volunteer to play in that system, in any field, by the way.

Speaker 1 You have, there are the same way you generated numbers,

Speaker 1 the same way you generated streams, there are expectations, quotas, and money being spent on you.

Speaker 1 You have been the

Speaker 1 proof of concept

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 their

Speaker 1 matrix.

Speaker 1 For where the game was with their he's been the streaming baby. Yeah, he's been the proof of concept for Apple, Spotify, and the labels in terms of streaming.
Correct.

Speaker 1 When the music business was in a disarray before streaming.

Speaker 1 So this dates back to the Napster fight to me.

Speaker 1 So don't ever think as proof of concept that

Speaker 1 it's all you, right? Like, and that's the difference for me in some of the examples I heard you say. With Floyd, there came a day where he knew it was all him.
It's all me.

Speaker 1 The rest of y'all could eat, the town could eat, Vegas could eat, and he get those perks in Vegas. They treat him like

Speaker 1 hey, open up the stores. Yes,

Speaker 1 the difference between

Speaker 1 the boxing or NBA analogy and the music analogy is that when the Lakers are playing whoever,

Speaker 1 the Knicks, right?

Speaker 1 That game is happening right now and that's the game. When Drake is putting out music,

Speaker 1 all of the games in the history of music are happening at the same time.

Speaker 1 It's not quite the same. I was just giving.
Yeah, no, I know. I get what you're saying.
To your point, but if I put up 16 championships,

Speaker 1 I think, like you said the other day, everybody thinks they're the man, and they're the last to get to know that they may not be the man no more.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying he's not the man no more, but if he ain't, he's going to be the last nigga to know it. Maybe true.

Speaker 1 So when you go in the office now that treated you like royalty for the last decade, and now they're talking to you a little differently, you might feel some type of way.

Speaker 2 So, you feel like he might have had a stronger position maybe five years ago?

Speaker 1 I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 He would have had a stronger position. And I think they might have sold him a bridge.
Even if they was bullshitting with him, they sold him on, yo, you, him. Me and you, baby, we gonna be big.

Speaker 1 We gonna be as big as ever.

Speaker 1 But he was in the bridge business. He was out looking for a bridge.

Speaker 1 That's back to my point about independence.

Speaker 1 And again, you sound crazy or you sounded crazy talking about that with the biggest dream artists in the universe.

Speaker 1 But this is why. Take whatever equity that they gained you.
There was a period where all of that 3A, 3 a.m. spooky time, the countdown shit, whatever he was doing, where he could press a button.

Speaker 1 The world stuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but bigger than that, how we distributed music changed throughout the year. So we talked about it for years up here.
It didn't cost you anymore to make a song and put it out.

Speaker 1 There's no overhead. There's no radio fees.
There's no this fees. There's no storage fees.
There's no vital. It's you now.

Speaker 1 It's not just you were the man on the music tip. We were at the precipice of a change to where somebody that had leverage and could dictate it could dictate it.

Speaker 1 And that's why I was running around saying this boy's the one right here. But who is the somebody that you're referring to? Drake? Yeah, for me.
Okay. No, I was asking.
No, I was asking.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if you were talking about Drake or that. Oh, yeah, no, no,

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about Aubrey. To your example, though, when there was times where he would upload in the middle of the night, scary hours, excuse me, all of that.

Speaker 1 And like you said, the world will stop. I think the label saw that.
So part of the deal is you can't do that no more.

Speaker 1 But that's part of the deal is just like we know other artists that, like I said, can't put a freestyle out now because of what they signed.

Speaker 1 The label now understands that it's not just about an iTunes or now, your value is also in what you upload on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Anytime you put your voice on any beat, there's some value there. And the labels are now signing that too.
I want to control it.

Speaker 1 Okay, but what's consistent for me with him now

Speaker 1 is,

Speaker 1 i.e., in the Kendrick battle,

Speaker 1 I harped on or focused on his inability to view that term.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like he focused on what was directly in front of him with these 20 people,

Speaker 1 ignored the real threat, didn't see the real game that was being played, and ultimately fell victim. Let me land.
I disagree. Let me land.

Speaker 1 Let me land. I agree with you 1,000%.
I disagree. The same way in this deal,

Speaker 1 you have to know. That if you are the only person that these labels are offering 400, 500, 600, 700, whatever the number is, you're the only person, then that means you have to ask yourself, why?

Speaker 1 And it can't just be, hey, I made them so much money or I'm so fly.

Speaker 1 It can't be that. You can't be that self-centered.
Because had he gotten the real answer, which is,

Speaker 1 because if you walk away from us

Speaker 1 with all your power

Speaker 1 and are independent, it's over for the hierarchy.

Speaker 1 Why do you think he hasn't come to that realization? He might have come to that realization. But too late.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think that. I know what you're talking about.
When? In the last four years or so?

Speaker 1 I'm speaking this way because you took deal after deal after deal. Like today, Kanye has come to whatever realization he needed to.
That's after a history of signing amendment, amendment, amendment.

Speaker 1 You get your info, how you get your info.

Speaker 1 But he steadied, took the money, took the the money, took the money, and now

Speaker 1 he's not in the position anymore, which is part of the label's argument.

Speaker 1 You are on the downside. And

Speaker 1 you think you him, but you are negating that we made you him.

Speaker 1 And the same way this team won a championship, hey, when you retire, it's going to be the organization's job to put another championship team on the floor. They don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Go pull up the clips of how he spoke and how Lucian spoke. The niggas was like the two ones in 11.

Speaker 1 I'm agreeing with you. I think that it's one.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I think the one small difference is this. I think that, especially, we're going to keep rolling with the sport analogy.

Speaker 1 Father Tom takes wins all battles.

Speaker 1 Physically, when you are creating something and it's coming from your brain, Father Tom may not play as an important role. I think that he thinks, dog, I can do this all day.
And I think you're wrong.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, I said, with you. So I think that he threw them niggas the throwaways.
Like, I heard they got albums in the tuck. Fire is what I heard.
He got albums in the tuck.

Speaker 1 And I think he don't want to get the albums in the universal. I think he's trying to figure a way to sever ties with them.
And I got all these albums over here in the tuck.

Speaker 1 And now I'm going to tell y'all niggas to suck my dick when I release them. He might be looking for his Kanye out.

Speaker 1 That's what I was going to say with the Transportation. He looking for the Kanye out.
Kanye still was able to come out with a number one album, number one single, without without them.

Speaker 1 Without radio play, without

Speaker 1 all stopped fucking with me, I still managed to get back up here. Independently.
Independently.

Speaker 1 Yes, I don't understand. That's what I'm saying.
No, I think that's his out. I think his out is you're saying he played the card too late.

Speaker 1 I don't think he thinks that. I think he's trying to find his Kanye route.

Speaker 1 I'm going to leave you niggas alone, and then I'm going to hit the world with whatever I hit the world with, direct to consumer, or whatever the case may be. Okay, but I want to be,

Speaker 1 in my opinion, because this is all subjective.

Speaker 1 We don't know shit. Drake is not in the same

Speaker 1 ballpark as Kanye West.

Speaker 1 Drake has not proven across the board that he can move units, hardware, whatever, of people, products,

Speaker 1 anything

Speaker 1 across products.

Speaker 1 Drake is proven

Speaker 1 in music.

Speaker 1 A lot easier to be independent when you got that fucking easy sneaker muddy. Yeah,

Speaker 1 the Kanye brand, just that easy brand, him,

Speaker 1 he curated that over years. You are right.
Drake has been, and this is back to Arc, he's been the system baby.

Speaker 1 So we don't know that. We don't know.

Speaker 1 He's seen him do it. He doesn't know.
We don't know. But I would think that he would be confident enough to think that I could or arrogant enough to think that I could.
I have the same way.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen it. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say.
The same way I told Kanye.

Speaker 1 Hey, dog, I believe you're independent when you really start taking that Adidas money and buying your own warehouses and your own factories and your own you got to reinvest in the business I say it all the time I have yet to see that from Drake my thing you got all let me land is he got all the money in the world he does he has all the resources in the world albums and to get songs popping and moving costs money I'm not sure that he know how much probably I'm not sure he know how much Universal has spent on making some of these songs stick But if you know music today,

Speaker 1 he's having a hard time making something stick. And that's not because he lost talent.
It's not that. It's not because he lost talent.
No, I don't believe that. He's still him.

Speaker 1 But without that label

Speaker 1 and without that button that they push, he's dropped joints that some people feel could go.

Speaker 1 I was just watching.

Speaker 1 Somebody I was watching, they was talking about, yeah, man, they start naming records. These records should have went.
Hey, if this was five years ago, this record would be a top 20 record.

Speaker 1 Guess what, Playboy? It's not anymore. It's not five years ago.
And there is a reason. I know you fans, so you're like, oh, why is this not going? You don't know shit about shit.

Speaker 1 This shit is designed and programmed. I'm agree.
I'm agreeing. Look,

Speaker 1 with Drake, with the Drake brand, it really leads more to the label is kind of more important than he's putting credit on. Because look at the things he's done outside of the label.

Speaker 1 The Knock the Nike brand. It ain't take off like Kanye's shit did.
Nothing. The OVO Jordans.
Ain't take off like that. The OVO label.
The OVO label. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Respectfully. Everything that you've done outside of music ain't really hit like that.

Speaker 1 And if music is only hitting because the label is pushing, not saying only, but it's almost like, and we're seeing the label not push the button now and the music ain't even hitting.

Speaker 1 Do you think the label suppressed it?

Speaker 1 I think they just let it go.

Speaker 1 They suppressed where he tried to drop on his own. They snatched shit down.
Like he tried to put some shit out. They'll strike it.
They did that. But that was telling us how they felt.
Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 That was telling us

Speaker 1 where they stood on things and that this this relationship has soured.

Speaker 1 To take it back to fucking the battle and Kendrick really quickly, it's not just me. I'm what the culture's feeling.

Speaker 1 However y'all interpret culture because it's subjective now, but I would assume that Kendrick, let me not say Kendrick, that somebody had a talk

Speaker 1 with some people. Yeah.
And there was a word on the curb in the great words of Melissa Ford.

Speaker 1 And, yo, dog, we was saying it. Hey, this is odd that this record won't leave number one.

Speaker 1 Why is this like that shit? They ain't shoot a video.

Speaker 1 What did they do besides press a button?

Speaker 1 We don't know. Maybe they spent some money.
But when a record stays at number one all that time, these are clear indicators.

Speaker 1 And he chose to, and I'm not getting back to his decisions during the beef, but he chose to focus on artists. When that boy knew his real beef was higher than that, it was higher than that.

Speaker 1 But he'd been knew that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's been saying it real quick. Yeah, but you can put too much dip on your chip.
You can. But the man.

Speaker 1 Your arrogance can make you. It can.
But I'm just saying. He's not blind to the point that

Speaker 1 the beef is higher up. He's been telling us this for years.
Yeah, but you would. That's my thing.
You and B.SAP Rocky and them. If.
But you knew who you're in.

Speaker 1 The way he was explaining it was like, yo, whoever the higher up is, y'all got them together to all attack me. It's still coming from above.

Speaker 1 The label is so powerful. They're making the falloff look like it's self-inflicted.
That's true. That's how powerful.
I agree with that. They're making

Speaker 1 like he's still talented, he's still got it. But they're so they're teaching him such a big lesson that they're making the fall off.

Speaker 1 They put all these things in front of him, they're making it seem like it's him that's doing it. He can't rap no more.

Speaker 1 Because a lot, a lot of people, what he's doing now, yes, it's to the culture where we're from, yo, you rat and you look nasty.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of artists that wish that they could have done that, not basically off of being dissed, but just go against a label that are moving things and to make them look a certain way or helping the career become go on a decline.

Speaker 1 My only beef with that is you had no problem when you were the main recipient. Of course that's the only issue.
Who would?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. We've seen a lot of niggas lose to the labels.
You sat there and talked like you was the king piece on the chessboard, which you were. Okay.

Speaker 1 But now it's it's it brings all of that in question because it's like, all right, so they, if you're telling us that they got the power to make you look where you can't succeed in music no more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you also telling us that all of your success in music still came from them? Maybe? Because your talent didn't change? The answer is yes. Yes, and that's it.
See, that's my other problem with

Speaker 1 certain things that he says in

Speaker 1 the suit about just the systems in play and the business of how music moves that are now working against him.

Speaker 1 Which says to me, well, that means that you knew how they, not only did you know how they were working for you,

Speaker 1 but yeah, but that's that's a given, but that's what you were running around taunting in the streets along with I make the best music.

Speaker 1 You know that your lawyer used to work for the prosecutor in the townhouse. You know that them people behind you, they got all the hammers.
They not even letting nothing push. He said some shit like,

Speaker 1 damn, I got a brain freeze right now. But yeah, that's my other issue with.

Speaker 1 He knows. He knows.
He knows. So I think that, and

Speaker 1 I'm not, I think that his knowledge is way more than our knowledge of

Speaker 1 what the goings-on are, right? Of course. So let's just say if he was the golden child and they was able to, with his talent, push a button and let him go.

Speaker 1 During the beef, they wasn't pushing a button on none of them songs.

Speaker 1 Which songs? That he was putting out against with Kendrick in the beef. They weren't pushing a button on them songs at all.

Speaker 1 So now he might have information, I'm just guessing, that's saying, yo, y'all doing shit that's not just let it go and see what happens, but eh.

Speaker 1 Y'all might be trying to mute my shit at the same time.

Speaker 1 So they're 100% probably going to try to mute all of his shit or not mute. The record business is just going to have other records be heard.

Speaker 1 So it's like a phase out. Instead of promoting yours.
So I got seven songs. No, Drake used to job you.
Hey, everybody move. Everybody move.
It wasn't just us saying it. That was a path being cleared.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. Now that he's on the other side,

Speaker 1 everybody, we're just dropping. Or nobody's dropping.
We're going to freeze all this shit, but you won't, you won't benefit from shit. So now he's trying to go the internet route.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to put some shit out on. Oh, also, wait, let me reply you real quick.
No. He never dropped a song.
See, I'm not talking fan talk today. He never dropped a song.
Not once. What you mean?

Speaker 1 Family Matters was released.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a song.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a song. It was a response? There was something that, listen, they fucked up the streets in the mixtape game, so nobody know what's what now.

Speaker 1 But savvy people know the difference between you going in the studio and you making a song and you putting it out on your own versus

Speaker 1 something that's being worked by millions of people. Like that is a song.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is on someone's album. People have hands invested in this.
This is an artist that is largely responsible for some argument shit. I'm talking about future now.
Yeah. And then you add Kendrick.

Speaker 1 That is a song being worked. Drake was just home rapping and pressing buttons and uploading.
Putting it out. There was nobody, it was him.
on his own. Then Kendrick comes back with fucking what

Speaker 1 everything that he did was attached to something where other arms and tentacles are working this

Speaker 1 the only one that wasn't was probably uh six six sixteen and LA and me the green shit that I like

Speaker 1 euphoria

Speaker 1 all released except for 616 dog the only ones that matter are like that and not like us

Speaker 1 those are the two that matter but I'm agreeing but All of those other songs that y'all said wasn't released was still at the top of the charts. So how did that happen?

Speaker 1 What do you mean wasn't released? Because Joe was saying it was only. He said, well, they weren't released.

Speaker 1 They weren't working.

Speaker 1 They're not working. It's just you on your own uploading the dat piff.
So you think that organically all of, because at some point he had like five or six songs in the top ten. Who? Kendrick.

Speaker 1 Kendrick.

Speaker 1 He had like four or five songs in the top ten. Yeah, I like that.
I like us. Euphoria, all of them was in there.
Oh, yeah, everybody was listening. I mean, Drake's Records was in there, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It ain't like Drake's Records didn't pop up on there as well. People were listening back and forth to these songs.
They just don't stay.

Speaker 1 They don't stay. They don't stay.
You have to pay to stay. Got you.
Okay. No, you might get enough basketball information on the pop-up.

Speaker 1 And a lot of times what happens is they hear something and this shit is a bop. Oh, shit.
This could go.

Speaker 1 Like when Not Like Us dropped, it was a bop. True.
Niggas was up dancing. I remember just the initial reaction video.
This ain't no but labels saying, yo, do this, do that.

Speaker 1 People was like, oh, shit, he gave us something that we could actually.

Speaker 1 And they said California shut down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So now as a label, if I see that, oh shit, now we'll put some money. We're going to go put some money behind it.

Speaker 1 Also in his shit, he's saying,

Speaker 1 y'all cut off the monetization for reaction videos to not like us, which incentivized people to make them or yada, yada, yada, yada. And I'm like, okay.
So they had a good idea.

Speaker 1 Not only did they have a good idea, they're well within their right to flick off monetization for who they see fit and what song. This is not the first time it's happened.

Speaker 1 Just some of them, salute to y'all, hit me, turn it off for an episode or two.

Speaker 1 They do that. When it's yours, which is what happens when you surrender your rights,

Speaker 1 they can do that.

Speaker 1 And this is also them playing the streamer game now. Now the labels is saying, okay, this streamer shit is really out here It's it's it's a major deal.

Speaker 1 This is this is the next step. So now it's like okay Yeah, let's incentivize the streamers to push our song for free but not just the streamers any video if it's a tick-tock if it's a whatever

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the reaction video part like when that word got out there that yo they're letting us use this song in the reaction videos It's going to incentivize more people to make the reaction video.

Speaker 1 And it's free marketing. It's a promo for the song.
That's just a smart move from a company. I'm not disagreeing with that.
It's just a genius move that he put out.

Speaker 1 And it's like, oh my God, you be doing all the cameras. But if they wasn't, true, it is some cameras.

Speaker 1 It's some. But definitely.

Speaker 1 It's some brat shit. It's some Braddy shit.
Like, yo, y'all wouldn't let me do this, but y'all let him do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I tried to put my videos out.

Speaker 1 Y'all suppressed it, and y'all took it down off Instagram, but y'all let him do what he was doing. It's some brat shit.

Speaker 1 It's some brat shit. Like, I'm used to doing this.
Y'all said no to me now. It's Braddy shit.
But if it's actually happening and he can prove that it's happening, then it changes his argument.

Speaker 2 Was the monetization just

Speaker 1 it goes from it goes from?

Speaker 1 I think he is, but it goes from business to now

Speaker 1 harassment to now business, right? Like, if he's able to prove that you guys intentionally did this, he has an argument. We have to stop acting like he doesn't have an argument.

Speaker 1 We're talking about two different lawsuits, too. You guys are talking about

Speaker 1 he doesn't have an argument. Because he won't have an argument.

Speaker 1 There is no argument in any of the things

Speaker 1 that I read is what I'm saying. Got it.

Speaker 1 What you're describing is the music business.

Speaker 1 Understood.

Speaker 1 When I got to Deaf Jam. Okay, I was going to add, yeah.
When I got to Deaf Jam,

Speaker 1 I was trying to have my records work. Me, Webb, Nitty, Skang, shout to the gang.
We were trying to have our records worked, and we were having a hard time.

Speaker 1 The lesson back then for me was the radio niggas coming and saying, yo, you go and talk to your label. They've sent us 13 records that have to be played before yours.

Speaker 1 And unfortunately for you, that's Ja Rule, DMX, Ludacris, fucking Method Man, Ghostface had a smash back.

Speaker 1 Like it was a long list of people that you had to go, Jay-Z, we got to get these two records on. Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, got it. I'm in competition with, all right, they just seeing what's the, the label is going to label.

Speaker 1 the label is not your personal concierge but if if you had an opportunity if you had a if you wasn't rolling with street niggas and you had an opportunity to sue them for that you wouldn't have sued them for that if you had the knowledge

Speaker 1 that's my point there is nothing i think we conflate them for but i think we're conflating this in in his particular instance and i didn't read it uh-huh so

Speaker 1 in His defamation thing is, fam, y'all calling me a pedophile on a national, fuck national, y'all calling me a pedophile on a global stage.

Speaker 1 That can be looked at as defamation. So, can he be sued for defamation for calling Kendrick a woman beater on a record prior to that?

Speaker 1 Like, my whole thing is that, bro, Ice, yes, niggas have been saying shit. Yes, you're saying, yes, he could be looked at as defamation.

Speaker 1 If Universal put money behind Drake's album where he's saying something about Kendrick's family or Kendrick's wife or Kendrick's whatever, yeah.

Speaker 1 Why are we acting like the word, the PDF?

Speaker 1 Why are we acting like the PDF word is just some regular stain you can white people?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. It's not a regular stain you can white people.

Speaker 1 This shit could be detrimental to your career.

Speaker 1 That's not known as that. Who's listening to that? Respectfully,

Speaker 1 I have no problem with anybody who's on that side of the fence. That's just not my hip-hop.
That's not my hip-hop. That's not the hip-hop I come from.
Has anybody said that?

Speaker 1 That is not the worst thing that's ever been said in a disc record

Speaker 1 or beef. But it's the worst.
That's the worst thing, Joe. That's happened.
That's one. Two, my word.
A DV statement, by the way, also. You said what? A D V state is also important.

Speaker 1 That's the worst thing that's stuck. If you look at hip hop, Joe, talking about hip-hop and battles and stuff like that.
We've seen what 50 did to Jairu.

Speaker 1 Like, we've seen different things that had an effect, these movements that had an effect on people in their career. Now we're watching another one where niggas actually saying.

Speaker 1 If 50 Cent would have sued Jairu for anything that he would have said,

Speaker 1 it would have turned out different. Of course, but he's different.
It's the same for Jay Nas. Of course.
I get it.

Speaker 1 Anybody

Speaker 1 else? Easy,

Speaker 1 Dr. Dre.

Speaker 1 Like, go listen to the EZE Dr. Dre beef again.
And the new shit.

Speaker 1 Is he suing Kendrick? No, he's suing Universal directly. That's what I'm saying.
Just Universal. He's not suing Kendrick.

Speaker 2 He didn't list in the defamation any of the streamers.

Speaker 1 They weren't. No, what he's using.
He's not

Speaker 1 suing. They're referenced.
Okay, they're referenced.

Speaker 1 He's using the captions that they used.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 he's including that when the house got shot at and the security guard got shot,

Speaker 1 that them having the picture of the house with the

Speaker 1 address, the number. They didn't put the address.

Speaker 1 Just they had the picture of the house with the little arrows on it, like sex offenders live there. Yes, they were.
That

Speaker 1 incentivized people to attack him.

Speaker 1 That's what he's claiming.

Speaker 1 I think he got a claim. I think he has a claim.
And I think... I'm not, I'm sorry.
I'm not with

Speaker 1 the violence, right? I'm not with nobody's crib getting shot up. I think it also said the day after somebody was trying to dig a hole and dig a tunnel through his crib and yada yada yada yada.

Speaker 1 But I want to say shit. I watched that house be built for however many years.
One. That house is Google featured in architectural digest of every fly magazine that there is.

Speaker 1 He's also himself divulged stories of fans attempting to break in his home

Speaker 1 while he's had guests, while he's had company. I assume that that comes with being one of the biggest stars in the world.
One.

Speaker 1 On the flip side, whenever him and I got into whatever we got into and them fans showed up to my house, he incentivized that. He cheered them on.
He put them on a public platform.

Speaker 1 He applauded that behavior. And that's my other beef with the Karen move.
Got it. Because if you a Karen, be a Karen, but you're code switching.

Speaker 1 Because you at the game with, you running around with this nigga that has been threatening Kendrick, saying, I'm going to kill you I'm gonna do XYZ you want to get cool with I'm not naming no names but you know who you running around with and you know what you're doing and you know what you're threatening so if you that then be that

Speaker 1 but don't be that

Speaker 1 and also caring out see that's my problem that's my problem that's part of the not like us uh

Speaker 1 foundation that he was building. That part right there, because you run around being mob ties, mafia, mafioso, all of this other shit, saying you, you know, you know what he's saying.

Speaker 1 Put it on on the recent record. You know what he's been saying.
So you're doing all of that, and then

Speaker 1 this is your retaliation when something happens. He's playing both sides.
I just, I just play both sides. He's playing both sides.
It's nasty in this comment.

Speaker 1 What if he's speaking for the people who always wanted to go against the label? That's not that. He's not that.

Speaker 2 This is all very self-disclaimer.

Speaker 1 What if he's standing up for those people? What if he's saying that I am the one that can change this? I am the one.

Speaker 2 That's not his incentive.

Speaker 1 It don't matter. What will change? Sorry, ma'am.
I'm sorry. I didn't hear you, man.

Speaker 2 I was just going to say, that's not his incentive.

Speaker 1 Okay. I understand what you're saying.
But I was with that with the first lawsuit. Yeah.
Even though I thought it was bullshit, I was with that. I'm still.

Speaker 1 I want you to withdrew that and now are claiming defamation and harassment. Because we've been hearing about the labels.

Speaker 1 I'm with this one, too. The Super Bowl is coming up in a month.
I don't want you to get on the biggest national platform in the world and say I'm a pedophile. Shit.
I took it there.

Speaker 1 Ice.

Speaker 1 We come up here and said.

Speaker 1 That don't have nothing to do with what he's talking talking about with the label.

Speaker 1 If y'all niggas is putting money behind a record that's claiming I'm a pedophile, I have a problem with y'all doing that. It's not about it.

Speaker 1 It has a lot to do with that. It has nothing to do with the label.
We don't get him called a pedophile. We don't know that we get that.
Dog. We don't know that.
We are here. You opened a door.

Speaker 1 And you didn't like what came out so. So what? I'm not suing Kendrick Lamar.
I'm suing the record label that is promoting me being a fucking pedophile. And I feel like...

Speaker 1 I have a problem with the label promoting an album that says I'm a pedophile. He can can have that feeling.
So he can. He can have all the feelings he wants.

Speaker 1 Kendrick can have a feeling about him saying, yo, you beat your wife. And you beat your wife.
You can beat your kids. It's like you're saying that.
It's all of that shit.

Speaker 1 And if Kendrick wanted to sue Universal for putting marketing dollars behind that, then Kendrick will be well within his right to do so. And so I have a question about Kendrick.

Speaker 1 Let me just jump in real quick. Well within your right to do so, yes, but no other artist would think about doing it because it's the end of your career.

Speaker 1 The same way it's going to be the end of his career. That's a choice that he got to make that bed line.
For sure. You know what I'm saying? He got to make that bad line.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, but I don't think, especially when it comes, if he sued Kendrick, he would be the fucking goof of the goofies.

Speaker 2 But that's my biggest question: is if he's

Speaker 1 goofing.

Speaker 2 If he's filing a defamation.

Speaker 1 Not against the machines, yo. Yeah.
Not against the machines. So those of y'all running with that.

Speaker 1 No, I'm with you, but I'm.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 sorry, Mel.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. I'm with you, right? I understand what you're saying, but I also understand how

Speaker 1 these infrastructures are put in place to make people look away and to fuck up things in front of the masses. I'm aware of these things.
I hear the complaints all the time. You hear them all the time.

Speaker 1 Nigga, Michael tried to go against so many people we could name that try to go against the system and the machine and loss.

Speaker 1 Now we have a nigga that says, yo, I feel like I'm in a position to go against the machine and maybe the machine put it in a way where it looks like he's on a downhill because of the issues between them.

Speaker 1 So now the masses are looking like, well, he's falling off, and that's why he's doing it. But maybe he's not even falling off for real.
They did that with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 Maybe they just made it like that. And we've seen this for years.
And now somebody is stepping up to say, I'm not going to allow you to do this. I think he's going to lose, though.
Me too.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to lose. But I'm just, you know, I'm with.
Listen. And I still think the record one player that

Speaker 1 lost and continues to lose in this. Is the artist.
Is him. It's him.
It's him. Okay.
I agree with that. And I just wish that he would find a different way to address all of his grievances.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. But doing this is above my pay grade.
So, do we just accept the abuse? I don't pretend to know. Do we just accept the joke? But, dog, dog, what y'all call abuse, have at it, bro.

Speaker 1 You enter the battle, things were said,

Speaker 1 you got hurt more than the other person. True indeed.

Speaker 1 If this is how you choose to deal with that, and you instigated the fight, my father. And another nigga hit harder than you.

Speaker 1 I agree. But I was here when it was, hey, nah, nigga, I've been hearing about these threat records from over there for mad years.
So now is the time. I got time.
I'm waiting.

Speaker 1 I'm not letting you escape. Like, you were persistent in that.
Instigated. And it came from a fairly vanilla diss of the future record, really.

Speaker 1 It's just Big Me led to this? That's why. They've been shooting.
No, no, no. He shot it.
It was years and years and years. But it wasn't nothing.
It didn't have to get the person.

Speaker 1 It didn't have to get the pedophile. You ain't got to get personal.

Speaker 1 It's a friendly fake. Keep it that way.
Like, and he's citing the lyrics. I read the lyrics in the shit.

Speaker 1 He's like, in euphoria, he says, don't tell no lies about me and I won't tell truth just about you, which has the public thinking that everything being said is indeed true. And yada, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's nasty, bro.

Speaker 1 Y'all can have it, yo.

Speaker 1 Y'all can have it.

Speaker 1 It ain't my hip-hop. Maybe I aged out of this shit faster than I thought I would.
But all this shit that y'all doing,

Speaker 1 it ain't, no, no, not for me. I I love it too much.

Speaker 2 Part of my confusion is also, if he's filing the def, the petition made a lot more sense, but if he's filing a defamation claim against UMG, why isn't Kendrick named?

Speaker 1 Because he's saying, from what my understanding is, and y'all could correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 He's saying that Universal basically put steroids to the record.

Speaker 2 I understand that. And I completely understand it.

Speaker 2 But Kendrick's the one who said it.

Speaker 1 He's trying to keep his foot still in hip-hop. He's trying to keep his face in.
He doesn't know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 No, because I think he's trying to keep his foot in the culture as far as the niggas that he rolled with, that would be frowned upon.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, then he's completely lost sight of how he looks.

Speaker 1 I think it's a desperation attempt by him to silence the song at the Super Bowl. That's it.
I think Drake has billions of dollars of business worldwide that he is counting on to provide for whatever.

Speaker 1 And I think those business deals now become, they get jeopardized by somebody calling you a pedophile on a worldwide stage. And even with that, that song might be

Speaker 1 pushing people to believe that can i ask you one quick question

Speaker 1 what do you say to drake himself on the tailor-made freestyle using the pac ai uh-huh saying

Speaker 1 talk about him liking young girls i heard it on a button podcast it's got to be true that's the first time this is mentioned on record okay before not like us i'm just saying you you yourself are

Speaker 1 yeah yeah you're basically you keep no

Speaker 1 he's being sarcastic saying yeah yeah yeah nigga. Go ahead and talk about here.
Okay, so I did it. Careful.
That's what you wish for.

Speaker 1 I'm just want to get your response.

Speaker 1 I think me and you having two separate conversations. I'm talking about global business.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about a street fight between me and you when I'm calling your mother names and all that other shit.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about on a global business level, my nigga, when people are running around saying that you are having sex with children, it is disparaging.

Speaker 1 So, but then, and that means that y'all kind of are having the same talk because one affects the other. That's what I'm trying to say.
Supposedly.

Speaker 1 No, we can see

Speaker 1 it in order. Cool.
Kendrick can say whatever you want. Again, I'm telling you that Drake is.
Bro, I'm not. Drake and Kendrick are the same.
He said the nigga beats his wife.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you said I beat my wife.

Speaker 1 If I never beat my wife,

Speaker 1 he's like, yeah, my kids. My kid is my best friend.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you that, bro. Yeah, you said my manager fucked my wife.

Speaker 1 That's true. I'm telling you that they are the same.
That was creative, but that was foul. I'm not disagreeing.
That's what I was saying. I thought about that while listening to it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that was a shit. That's a wild shit.
I thought the same thing you did. That's a wild shit.
It was mudslinging.

Speaker 2 It was mudslinging. And also, I think that there's a different perception from both people as to what the rules of engagement were.

Speaker 2 Jake really likes the goalpost move for him. Yes.

Speaker 1 I think Universal's involvement in this is the underlying piece.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let me read.

Speaker 1 Like, I think he's accustomed to Universal pushing a button for him, and they didn't.

Speaker 2 So let me read it.

Speaker 1 So now I see you pushing a button for another motherfucker. I'm tired.
Real quick before you read that. It's not just they push the buttons, they also silence shit for him.
Yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 1 That's what he's used to. Yeah, he's used to universal.
That's my point. Changing the rules for him.

Speaker 1 There was records that people said shit that he didn't like that he made a call and then they made a call. And this got to come off this song.
That's my point.

Speaker 1 It happened to him.

Speaker 1 He couldn't take it happening to him.

Speaker 1 I'm not disagreeing with that piece, but when the label pushed the button on your shit, silence my shit, and your shit happens to be one of the most disparaging things in the world, if I want to get your shit silenced and I think I got enough power to do so, I'm going to go to the court.

Speaker 1 That's what motherfuckers doing business. I agree with Ish that a large part of this is not having not like us played at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, I think it's a desperation attempt.

Speaker 1 I've been hearing some things.

Speaker 1 Universal ain't the only people that he's acting like this with. Oh, yeah, no, I know.
There's other shit going on. Listen,

Speaker 1 when you care in publicly, I got to assume that you care in privately as well. That's part of the Karen profile that you're calling behind the scenes to yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 And if you look at certain things, like if you look at

Speaker 1 the last two Super Bowl halftimes, that was what, Usher and Rihanna, right?

Speaker 1 The promo for them

Speaker 1 was a lot.

Speaker 1 You ain't seen much promo for this one. That's true.
Outside of the rollout video, it's been really quiet for promo video for this halftime show.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's a great point.
Why?

Speaker 2 Because behind the scenes,

Speaker 2 he's discussing shit with NFL lawyers.

Speaker 1 Now, factor that in. What just dropped a couple weeks ago? With what?

Speaker 1 His line with the NFL.

Speaker 1 Who's lying? Drake. Drake.
Obviously.

Speaker 1 Out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Just popped up and dropped. Just start doing the math.
It's big boy games.

Speaker 1 What I will say to that, and I I agree with that. That's that's deep.
That's big boy games. When I was watching the

Speaker 1 typically, I'm used to the NFL doing their October announce,

Speaker 1 chilling, and then, because we focused on the playoffs, and then the Super Bowl coming is a big deal. When I was seeing that promo for Usher, I think for me, I could be off.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of that tied to Apple

Speaker 1 with the Apple.

Speaker 1 Apple has the halftime show.

Speaker 1 Apple does the halftime show.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Like, I made it.
Remember when

Speaker 1 Nas and Jay was going at it?

Speaker 1 Nas had a thing where he was going to hang Jay at Summer Jam. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They silenced it.

Speaker 1 Dame Dash admitted, yo, I silenced that shit. Nigga, you not going to hang my man on no stage.
Dame publicly said he went to Hot 97 and told them niggas, if y'all allow that shit to go down,

Speaker 1 that was power. No, no, hot 97.
It was summer jam.

Speaker 1 He was like, yo, if y'all allow that shit to go down,

Speaker 1 we're going to retaliate. Y'all not going to be getting our shit.
Y'all not going to be, whatever he had to do and say to get that shit to go away, I think that's just big boy games.

Speaker 1 And that's, we watch all of these shows. We watch Billions, Succession, all of these shows.
All of that shit happens in big business. Dog, I hear the.
I think it's sucker shit.

Speaker 1 From our perspective, how we were raised. Like, yo, you don't do that.
You take the bumps and bruises that come along with the fight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when you got billions of dollars and all that shit on the on the table and be clear, as we y'all all keep saying, Drake ain't from where we from.

Speaker 1 We expecting the nigga to potentially play by rules that we have

Speaker 1 sometimes ignorantly adopted as a way of moving around, but he don't necessarily have to adopt those rules. Then don't mob tize me to death.

Speaker 1 That's my beef with Mobtize Drake. I miss Drake.

Speaker 1 Like it's too many artists that are suffering from an identity crisis or begin to lose themselves when they get into shit.

Speaker 1 I miss

Speaker 1 original

Speaker 1 Drake. Yes,

Speaker 1 the nigga with the Blackberry and the corny t-shirts that couldn't dress with no beard that everybody just wanted to get next to and get some of that corny sauce.

Speaker 1 Y'all knew that nigga wasn't like us, but he had the magic touch. That guy.
That guy that made people that when they collab, they was joining

Speaker 1 his world.

Speaker 1 The guy that said, nigga, I'm going to give you the verse and the hook.

Speaker 1 Look, that's what every song sound like, Drake Lee. Feature and Drake.
Oh, him. This new caricature of himself,

Speaker 1 where back to the not like us point that I don't want to continue to

Speaker 1 reiterate or emphasize, but all of this, I'm doing an album with him. I'm flying with him.
I sound like him. The London drill that is, yo,

Speaker 1 why did you try to fix what wasn't broken? You don't think it's evolution?

Speaker 1 Or it's really, it's me being what I really wanted to be?

Speaker 1 I could really want to be that. And the opposite of evolution is what? Regression.
Because that's what I see it as.

Speaker 1 What evolved? Or maybe it evolved into something

Speaker 1 that was trash. Yeah, I think it's...

Speaker 1 It sounds evolved. It doesn't.
Nothing about it is evolution to me. Gotcha.
Okay.

Speaker 1 To me.

Speaker 1 When you could go make a song with popcorn in Jamaica and you could go make a song with another artist in London, you could make a go song down south. You could go make a song with a pop artist or

Speaker 1 what's the girl name?

Speaker 1 Sabrina Claudia. Yeah.
Like when you could do all of those different things, I don't necessarily know if Drake from

Speaker 1 yesteryear. could do those things.
I think the evolution now, his personal persona is one thing. Okay.
And I think too.

Speaker 1 I'm of the belief that Drake from yesteryear could do anything in the world if he wanted to musically. Gotcha.
I wouldn't disagree with that.

Speaker 1 And to the evolution point of music becoming global, because I recognize that

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have my point if he were the one still dictating those sounds to increase us globally, like the NBA doing a deal with China. But

Speaker 1 it seems like you, it seems like

Speaker 1 you conform, you rode waves. Music is fickle.
Dog, when Nori was doing his reggaeton shit, man, him and daddy, Yankee, that shit was on fire. I was home looking at a clock, man, hurry this shit up.

Speaker 1 Dog, sometimes you have a record that's fire. I'm not speaking about Drake now because he's bigger than life.
But for the rest of us, we could have a record and be holding it in a tuck.

Speaker 1 And in a year, the whole sound of music

Speaker 1 would be totally different. Like, music is a lot about timing.

Speaker 1 So he conveniently and not just conveniently because now in hindsight i feel like he got word from the curb from his business partners of what the target is just like when i was in spotify or wherever and them niggas would say yo india it's like oh

Speaker 1 Got it. That's where the focus is.
Yo, the population is this over there. So if we do that, we'll see a 10% increase.
And they get back there and they start talking their shit.

Speaker 1 And if you are our streaming baby and we working in alignment,

Speaker 1 you're going to get some cool

Speaker 1 it's very bonds yo nothing could stop it but now if you're not dictating those things right like if he could go in the studio right now and do a one dance

Speaker 1 which everybody here I'm sure believed that he can still make a one dance

Speaker 1 why you not I say yeah

Speaker 1 huh I always say why are you not why you not gotcha oh why why wouldn't you

Speaker 1 that goes back to the why won't you that goes back to the concept of he's potentially holding all this material which again I think is a mistake because the world changes too fast.

Speaker 1 Music changes too fast. So, if you're holding on to all these great songs and great albums for when you get out of your contract, which you don't really have no definite date, that's a mistake.

Speaker 1 But not to do that, like when he, go ahead,

Speaker 1 if the music is changing too fast, I think that it's a clever business move that he hops on each sound. Yeah, I'm not right.
So, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 A lot of times, you know, when Joe says that I missed the old Drake, I want that Drake, but I think it's actually clever and you stay relevant because a lot of artists, the sound becomes outdated.

Speaker 1 It's a trick. And we laugh at them.
But that's a trick.

Speaker 1 not laugh like ha ha ha but but that's that's the trick even it's a clever one joe it's a clever suspicious of risk wait hold up yes and no okay explain yes and no

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 it's still the program doing this

Speaker 1 it's still the program

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 why is drake not on uh a bad bunny song right now or why is drake not on a bruno marr song right now or an Adele song right now or a Taylor Swift song right now or any of them, the Premium, Post Malone, whoever those premium, they're going to keep you off.

Speaker 1 The label is. The label is.

Speaker 1 We're going to ice you out.

Speaker 1 So now when you go try to do it, because he's done it, I came in here and was the only one in the world that liked that shit with him and the Spanish dude or him and whoever that dude was where I thought he got off in the verse.

Speaker 1 I played that shit up here. Came and went.
Came and went? Nothing. Everything's coming and go.
Everything that's going to come. The white girl.
He just did it. He's been doing a little run.

Speaker 1 And the Brazilian girl. He's got records on the 100 gig shit that if they fucked with him, would go.

Speaker 1 But yes, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about collaborations and the programs, program.

Speaker 1 He could do whatever he want on his own, but they put him with the little racist white girl two times.

Speaker 1 Two times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Camela. You heard them shits.
And then you know what? Never for a second. It's very different than somebody powerful putting

Speaker 1 Rima with,

Speaker 1 what's the Spanish girl that's on the hit?

Speaker 1 Rima and

Speaker 1 that fucking white girl that Spanish song. And when he won, everybody heard the song, biggest song in the world.
I want to find it. Somebody look it up.
Rima and one of them white girls.

Speaker 1 They went up there, won the Caribbean Award. He brought her to the stage.
Like these are

Speaker 1 intentional collaborations from people that are above the mascots. Gotcha.
And we are the mascots. And at some point, we expected Drake to take a a hove-like leap to businessman.

Speaker 1 And it's tough to have that talk with somebody that's as wealthy as him. But I'm speaking from

Speaker 1 his

Speaker 1 world.

Speaker 1 We were expecting him to take that, but he kept drinking the Kool-Aid of Universal and Lucien.

Speaker 1 They asked him, Lucian, hey, Drake, call, ask for some money. He said it.
Anytime Drake has ever called and asked for more money, I give it to him.

Speaker 1 That's the Lucian

Speaker 1 grade A version of Lior taking me to the Knick game when focus was out.

Speaker 1 And guess what, Joe?

Speaker 1 But when you stupid me. Hey.
But when you don't want this. The Knicks.
When you don't want to go to the game no more

Speaker 1 and you want the box seats and you want equity and you start talking Jay-Z talk.

Speaker 1 It's going to be pushback potentially from the same nigga that put his arms around you and said, yo, you can have anything I got.

Speaker 1 Because he's he's never gonna think that you're gonna ask for what the fuck he really got well you're talking about the the the want process you take me to the game what happens when i want uh my own skybox what i'm saying is

Speaker 1 it starts with hey man why is that happening right like a good businessman yo part of the reason walking out here part of the reason i'm such a great spade player Hey, some of y'all out there know about me, is because

Speaker 1 whatever my opponent is trying to do, I figured it out. I figured it out by the time the first two cards are placed the same in business.
In business,

Speaker 1 hey, you might get what you want. You might get your deal.
And be clear. I know that most of y'all, and I know for a fact, most of y'all are back there asking for pennies, pebbles, and fruity,

Speaker 1 fruity, what? Fruit loops? Fruit loops. Fruity loops.
Y'all not back there asking for shit, demanding shit. I'm not talking about Drake.

Speaker 1 He could be, he might have been back there bugging asking for it.

Speaker 1 That's my point. But the rest of y'all niggas,

Speaker 1 y'all ain't back there really negotiating for nothing.

Speaker 1 Y'all are and have been happy with receiving a look and $100,000

Speaker 1 for you to get by for your next six years and maybe get another $100,000 from the publisher. And now you got $300,000 and we're going to make you high.

Speaker 1 And you go get your money on the road and through brands. Y'all have been totally pleased with that.

Speaker 1 So it's like, yeah, if y'all are happy being high-priced mascots, which 98% of you are,

Speaker 1 then

Speaker 1 when the team get to change in the colors of the mascot outfit,

Speaker 1 you can't say shit. You're going to put it on.

Speaker 1 You're going to wear that. Wear that gold, nigga.
Yo, there's nothing that you could say, dog. This shit hurts.
This shit hurts. This is like the hip-hop version of the fucking house seats.

Speaker 1 Like the seats that, hey, these been dominated for 90 years. And now we got this one small window to where we can make a change some and see these labels take a fall.

Speaker 1 And the few niggas that could have did it, y'all end up fighting with each other, taking a deal and only looking out for self. There's no union in hip-hop.
There's no unity in hip-hop.

Speaker 1 None of y'all know what culture mean. Actually, they've been telling y'all what culture mean because they own this shit now.
This shit is a fucking mess out here. It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 And if you love this shit, it hurts.

Speaker 1 It hurts.

Speaker 1 It does. I ain't mad to come here and fucking be vulnerable or sad about this shit.
I'm saddened as a diss track king, as a nigga who loved to get on the mic and tell lies about my opponent.

Speaker 1 That was the shit, nigga. Saigon got on the mic, said my kid was gay.
He did.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I can name all of the things that people say. Lil B said I needed Rogan.

Speaker 1 I'm joking. That's not that bad.
But horrible things get said, man. I just don't like the Karen play both sides.

Speaker 1 I don't like the aggressor and the victim, especially going through what I just went through with these fucking, these racist pieces of shit.

Speaker 1 Like, I just see how the game is played with systems in place. And when it don't go your way, we end up here.
I agree. But forget about the effect or the impact on everybody else.

Speaker 1 I hope it plays out well for him. I honestly personally don't see how it can.

Speaker 1 I don't see how it can. Not saying it can't.
Again, above my pay grade. Let me ask you.
I think it's going to fan out well for me. Let me ask y'all one quick question.

Speaker 1 Do y'all still think Not Like Us gets played at the Super Bowl? Yes. Yes.
I don't know if they say the line, though. No, just the the song period.

Speaker 1 I pen thought he was going to play the song. Dog, the beat has been played.
The beat is at least coming up. The beat has been played

Speaker 1 in arenas.

Speaker 1 The organ player plays it at the Knick game. Like, the beat is played.
The song.

Speaker 1 Even if he don't say a word, I've always been on the side of

Speaker 1 the... The intro shit is going to come out.

Speaker 1 I always say he's going to edit it and do it. But in the event I'm wrong and he don't say a word, the beat is going to come on like Usher doing my way for five seconds, just walking out to it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I see Dead P. That might be the intro.
I see Dead people.

Speaker 1 No, he. Whatever.
His behavior is single-handedly making the legacy of Not Like Us. He's making it the greatest disc record of all time.
It's so seven millions.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 I was never ready to call Not Like Us the greatest disc record of all time. He needs getting harder and harder.
It's solely his behavior that's making the legend of it. That's gross.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 What I was saying to you, you know, off camera,

Speaker 1 when I asked you, you're a man that goes against the system, right? Especially now in your new

Speaker 1 life.

Speaker 1 You still keep that same sentiment. Yeah, I don't give a fuck how high you are.
I'm going to go against you.

Speaker 1 If I feel that it's wrong, if I feel it's not right, if I feel I'm being treated unfairly, I'm going to fight the system

Speaker 1 no matter how many resources I have to use.

Speaker 1 So that's why to me, when you say it, I understand what you're saying from a hip-hop perspective but from a business perspective i don't understand why you're not understanding his angle right like

Speaker 1 you you're not gonna if somebody anything that anybody do to you not taking the line down especially with the new knowledge that you gained over the years you said you came up here and said all the time yo if i would have read these contracts if i would have understand what they were doing back there i would have moved totally different and then now we have somebody that listens to you, that listened to everybody else and decided to move differently.

Speaker 1 So I would think that you, not from a hip-hop perspective, but okay, I get what you're doing. A lot of niggas, 50 sues everybody.
So, my man, shout out to Fifth. Niggas sue and take niggas to court.

Speaker 1 And a lot of things you may look at, like, oh, taking them to court for that, but it's business. So, that's that's that's just the confusing part when I hear you speak about it.

Speaker 1 Like, you're speaking from a fan perspective, like, yo, I love Drake. I miss the old Drake, don't do this because I'm a disc record king.

Speaker 1 But then, I'm not speaking, I'm not hearing you speak from the business side of how things could be put in place to destroy you.

Speaker 1 And that's just that's the confusion for me

Speaker 1 when I hear you speak about it.

Speaker 1 If I smoke the weed and there's fentanyl in it,

Speaker 1 I'd face the repercussions.

Speaker 1 It's hard for me to empathize when you have been complicit with the system for so long and reaped the benefits and gotten paid and gave everybody your ass to kiss and fucked everybody's girl and said, I'm taking a piece of your contract and I'm taking a piece of your contract and I'm not clearing this record and you take that record off off of there.

Speaker 1 Like it's hard to empathize with somebody who's been down for the cause.

Speaker 1 Again, above my pay grade. For me, I've always been pretty transparent in where I stand in terms of independence and why.
And that's no matter what.

Speaker 1 That's a forever thing. I don't like going before a judge and the judge having the final say on what the rest of my life looks like.

Speaker 1 I don't like going to work and them saying, hey, if you don't have a song in the next 10 days, you're out of here i don't like going to work and saying hey we saw a blog so you're fired fuck you i don't like complex firing me while i have a baby coming in the same week i that's an uncomfortable and uneasy feeling for me i much rather sleep with eating what i hunt and not missing what i never had and for me it's worked out Cool.

Speaker 1 That's that's that's for me. With all of this shit that's happened, maybe y'all can answer it.

Speaker 1 I still don't think it's transparent as to what Drake's end goal is, like what he wants.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's transparent what anybody's been doing behind closed doors, whether that's Drake or Universal.

Speaker 1 I think that if Drake went public with whatever information he has

Speaker 1 and told

Speaker 1 if he had proof of XYZ going on, we might look at it in a different way. It's possible.
To what Joe was saying before and to what Flip is saying, I think that

Speaker 1 Drake and Universal have always been buddy-buddy.

Speaker 1 Chummy-chummy.

Speaker 1 And now, like Drake and LeBron, like Drake and DeMar DeRosan, you not doing what we was doing before. Our relationship has changed.
And so now I'm looking at you like the op.

Speaker 1 I think that could potentially have happened. Or we seeing that it happened.
And now he on the offensive with a nigga that you might have been fly with before.

Speaker 1 Him and Lucian might have never had an opportunity for him to see the things from the perspective that you've seen him because he's never endured what you've endured

Speaker 1 you wasn't the media darling that complex you were for a second until they couldn't use you no until they couldn't use you no more and your information got up and you asked for something else that might be where he is in his journey right now i'm not knocking him you know what i'm saying So how he responds to it, somebody would have said, could have potentially said, yo, Joe did some bullshit.

Speaker 1 You have admittedly said, y'all are trying to burn this whole bitch down.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? Like, that might be where he is right now. You put the line in the sand for a while.

Speaker 1 And when I do, or when anybody decides to make those decisions, you get on the phone with your team or your attorney. And if they're competent, plenty of times they said to me, okay.

Speaker 1 Sit your dumbass down. No, no, they're your team.
They're supposed to advise you.

Speaker 1 If you do this.

Speaker 1 This is what can potentially be the black, the backblow. True.
And I think he might be willing to deal with it.

Speaker 1 And I think his arrogance level being where he is at a 40-year-old, a 30-something-year-old man, 40-year-old man, I think he might need to be shown.

Speaker 1 Everybody never got punched in the face before, fam.

Speaker 1 And so until a nigga punches you back and he might hit harder than you, it's a lesson that you might have to learn in your growth and in your journey. And this might be the punch.

Speaker 1 And does he care anymore about being accepted by the core audience of hip-hop, right? Yes, he does. This shit changes.

Speaker 1 Isn't he trying to like

Speaker 1 he doesn't engage in the battle if he doesn't care about the hip hop?

Speaker 1 No, I get. I said anymore.
I think no, he tries. He may try to be appealing to the younger audience.
They don't care about anything. All they care, they don't care about shit.

Speaker 1 That song he just released didn't say, I don't care about what they think about me. What do you, which one? The little freestyle shit he just did.
That don't say that. That freestyle shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where are you? I give a fuck. Oh, you talking about the LeBron joint? Yeah.
Allegedly. Fucking Irish.
Got it. Okay.
And the one before that? Yeah, the whole scary hours. All that shit.
I care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's all alchemists and conductors.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I care.
And I'm going to show y'all. We watch a lot, like I said, with the new audience, new fans.

Speaker 1 The rules and morals and principles of yesteryear are no longer. True.
That's true. Right.
With the new fans. They don't give a fuck.
Oh, you stitched a kashi signal. Ah, they don't care.

Speaker 1 They don't care about that shit. They came home, got on the song.
They don't care about that.

Speaker 2 They may not care about a code, but do you think that they care about what's considered corny?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 They don't think so. They don't follow.
And it ain't just the new fans either.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 let me finish. He's right.
Ross being outed as a corrections officer in the 90s would have ended him.

Speaker 1 We didn't give a fuck because the slaps kept coming.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of crooked. I'm not saying it.
I know it is. I know it is.

Speaker 1 I know it is. And if his ties,

Speaker 1 I'm aware.

Speaker 1 Could dispel that I'm not on that side of the law, Ross could have got it off. He didn't even have to Yeah.
Because they didn't care. That's my point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the shit that we're talking about right now,

Speaker 1 I think we're a minority. Absolutely.
Looking at this like some Karen shit or looking at it like you borderline ratting or snitching or whatever the case may be. I think we're a minority in that.

Speaker 1 And I think that also goes along with our age demo. I think that's also we're a minority because of his popularity.

Speaker 1 I think if this was a much less popular artist, they would all be the same way they jumped out of guns back.

Speaker 1 But did that?

Speaker 1 they did but

Speaker 1 we're in a minority because today

Speaker 1 we fans of hip-hop yeah today they fans of the person correct true so we riding with you no matter what right that's that's the difference today a lot of they don't give a fuck like

Speaker 1 you could look corny so what we go and ride with you gunner sold out madison square garden twice yeah true i don't know if they jumped on his back then he came home he was home about six months i want to jump i want to jump in on you guys's minority conversation because I think all of that is contingent upon how you view the minority.

Speaker 1 Like, y'all are just talking numerically.

Speaker 1 Y'all are just talking numerically. Numbers.
Numbers. Yeah, numbers.

Speaker 1 But isn't that where hip-hop is today?

Speaker 1 Stop it. It's about numbers.
But stop it for a second. Let me think.
My brain is fucking clustered. And that's my problem with the number one urban podcast.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 1 hip-hop to some

Speaker 1 is not only the minority, but very small, insignificant, urban, black, not a factor because of numbers, right, and population and market share and all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 When I go get to talking, I argue the strength in that because of what

Speaker 1 culture and that minority dictates. True, I agree with that.
So yes, it is small, but powerful. Smaller minority, right?

Speaker 1 But depending on how you view the strength of that minority, we are the ones that dictate. I'm speaking for my beliefs only right now.
We are the ones, well, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Young people are saying, we are the ones that dictate what's fly, what's hot, what's fashionable, what can sell, what can we drive them numbers back there.

Speaker 1 We just not allowed to go back there in the room and have access to the fax machine.

Speaker 1 So I go back there and they try to, they're going to always try to minimize you with yeah you're the number one urban or you're the number one in hip-hop or your demo is only black up up

Speaker 1 if i go get to telling these black people

Speaker 1 what's going on and they get to making enough ruckus the same way every one of y'all companies and corporations see everything every tweet every reel every y'all got y'all done design tech and programs to watch everything that we buy everything that we say how we cuff our sweats how we y'all know what time it is I know what time it is when I go on Botega and buy some shit and the price went up from the last time I went in it is cuz I don't came here and bought 17 of these motherfuckers and then went on my show they did that shit to I I know when the price spikes be happening and why they happen I'm speaking only for my belief so yeah I speak for these black people but do you have any other black people

Speaker 1 on your on your network? What are you doing for black people? So yeah, the minority is powerful and strong. Yeah, I can't believe that.
Cover the culture always has a thousand percent.

Speaker 1 Regardless of race or gender or whatever

Speaker 1 thousand percent I agree with that wholeheartedly it's small but powerful I agree pause if pauses do and there's some people that don't view it that way listen there's the team of of the the super wealthy all them niggas is being friendly they getting together now they bust sending each other flowers buying each other lunch fucking Elon and Jeff and fucking Zuck and I imagine that that team is going to grow and Trump and all of that listen they they

Speaker 1 you know I mean I forgot the point I was getting at just now. I forgot why I brought that up.
Minority trick. Powerful.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, you got to get to companies and find out what side of the fence they on. Like, I make it my business to find out how a company feels about a black person and a black person ascending.

Speaker 1 Now I'm off on a whole other tangent, but it is a little bit related. Right?

Speaker 1 Like, and there's some that's going to put a ceiling over you and look at you like you have the fucking audacity when you come in here.

Speaker 1 And there's some that

Speaker 1 they're going to honor certain things because it's a whole bunch of white people out there where we're vibing off shared and similar experiences.

Speaker 1 I'm real fly with this white dude in the building. Shout out to the people in the building listening.
We got podcast fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 real fly with this white boy from Benson Hurst. We ain't gonna talk about white or black.
We got shared experiences.

Speaker 1 You got jumped over there, I got jumped over here. It was rough coming up.
Your father had money, you left it. It's just shit.
It's not about that.

Speaker 1 so again off on a tangent i don't remember i got there but

Speaker 1 important to find out how they will view you and that's going to tell you how they gonna view your reach your communication who you talk to and your ceiling and your yeah your ceiling yeah man this shit hurts oh that was my good that was my point get this shit off when you was talking about the jay-z shit

Speaker 1 jay-z come from a different background absolutely jay-z has always been a ceo any nigga that's outside selling drugs you are the ceo of your own company

Speaker 1 You dictate what and how much money you can accumulate. And you're going to also dictate the risks associated with your decisions.

Speaker 1 You're going to dictate how to manage the money, how to manage the re-up. That's inventory control.
All of that shit is you literally running your own corporation.

Speaker 1 So when you look at Drake, that's always been quote unquote,

Speaker 1 almost an employee. Right? He's not an employee, but he almost is an employee because he keeps taking the check.
Just putting back.

Speaker 1 So now to shut you up, I'm going to just give you more money and you're going to go away. So now I think he has enough money to where he might want to step into the CEO shoes.

Speaker 1 And to your point, the audacity of you, when I just gave you $400 million, nigga, to want to get a piece of this pie. No, your ceiling is here.

Speaker 1 You're going to stay an artist at all times and don't come looking for nothing else. And I think these may be some of the fights he's having now that Jay never had.

Speaker 1 Well, I agree. And I put a little bit of this on him because we're in the information era, right? Like, I can see them them saying that.
I can see them saying that to him. Hey, you want to be a boss?

Speaker 1 Congratulations. You won't do it here.
True. So now you got to go to, like, 50 didn't do it through music.

Speaker 1 Hove, they did a pie of where all his income is. He didn't do it.
He didn't do it through music. Kanye didn't do it through music.

Speaker 1 Puff didn't do it through music. None of the people that you could figure out.

Speaker 1 None of the examples that we have. Brianna didn't do it through music.
Brianna didn't do it through music. Nobody that's getting it today.
Music is your opportunity.

Speaker 1 And with that comes opportunity cost. True.
It's going to be on you one day. And to your point, maybe he's there right now.

Speaker 1 But it's on you one day to leave that comfy living room with the couch and the big screen and the masseuse and the charcuterie

Speaker 1 and get out there and get it now. With all of who you are.
True.

Speaker 1 With all of your star power and your fucking...

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I'm sad.

Speaker 2 Well, this was the response from

Speaker 2 UMG, and it's from all, you know, from all of you.

Speaker 1 Reading glasses on, Big Mal. Them readers.
Put the readers on. Hey, yo, dog.
Who they playing with.

Speaker 1 Who they playing with, Big Mal.

Speaker 1 Hello, Mrs.

Speaker 1 Ward.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I'll take a book from her.

Speaker 1 And they'll bring the books back.

Speaker 1 They'll bring the books back if Mel up there. Big Mal.

Speaker 2 All right, check it. Well, the gloves are off according to

Speaker 2 this response.

Speaker 1 Is this new?

Speaker 1 Everything's new. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Not only are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would seek to harm the reputation of any artist, let alone Drake, is illogical.

Speaker 2 We have invested massively in his music, and our employees around the world have worked tirelessly for many years to help him achieve historic, commercial, and personal financial success.

Speaker 2 Throughout his career, Drake has intentionally and successfully used UMG to distribute his music and poetry, to engage in conventionally outrageous back-and-forth rap battles to express his feelings about other artists.

Speaker 2 He now seeks to weaponize the legal process to silence an artist's creative expression and to seek damages from UMG for distributing that artist's music.

Speaker 2 We have not and do not engage in defamation against any individual.

Speaker 2 At the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to protect our people and our reputation, as well as any artist who might directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation target for having done nothing more than write a song.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's why I'm saying. Very well said.
Like

Speaker 1 everything universal, give me is up and it's stuck. It's not, yo, let's amicably see if we can, let's have a mediator, let's see if we can wreck this.

Speaker 1 No, it's like they passed all that stuff.

Speaker 1 They seem

Speaker 1 enough for you now,

Speaker 1 which is odd. No, I don't think so.
Really? I don't think so. You don't think that they're tired of the brat? Just

Speaker 1 we done had them conversations, and the line is drawn. Ain't no budget no more.
Okay, then, nigga, it's up. Do what you got to do.
You know how you talk to somebody like, all right, that's what it is?

Speaker 1 All right, well, you do what you got to do then. Oh, no, they call that best and final.
Final.

Speaker 1 Highest and best.

Speaker 1 They call that best and final.

Speaker 1 Once that's said on the phone,

Speaker 1 let's all go to our corners,

Speaker 1 see what we with, what we ain't.

Speaker 1 I think he got back that best and final and just didn't like it and had enough the same way and got mad like we all get mad.

Speaker 1 And now I'm going to go and I'm going to go show you 100 gigs and no face, no face, no face. I like that no face shit.
I said it when it dropped.

Speaker 1 if no face would have came out with record support uh with label support circadian rhythm we record that no face shit is hard no face is out of here but poor khaled don't know what to do for on the album

Speaker 1 that's the album i'm waiting on we keep talking about kendrick future week and all this other that nigga where is khaled's album dirk gone hey bodyguard bro we gonna see damn dirk oh my lord and and you really tight if you him if he can't get out this deal

Speaker 1 y'all still holding me and i I don't want to be him. We beef him? What's your thought? Yo,

Speaker 1 you over there feeling like a caged bird? I'm not half a billion dollars. You over there feeling like a caged bird, my nigga.

Speaker 1 We turn it over. Turn the contract over for life.
Yeah. Like, you over there.
Perpetuity.

Speaker 1 And I think that might be part of his plea, too. I mean, yo, let me go.

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 And that's my other line, bro. You frustrated.
Yo.

Speaker 1 And again,

Speaker 1 this might be a culture thing or you might have missed this in your travels. At some point, you got to learn.
If you learn how to win,

Speaker 1 you have to learn how to learn how to lose.

Speaker 1 You have to learn how to lose.

Speaker 1 You have to. This is on track for him.
If you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose. Dog, even go on.

Speaker 1 Look, there's a such thing as, hold on, let me ask you back one ways. There's a such thing as losing gracefully.
I know.

Speaker 1 There's a such thing as after the loss, we go and we do the dab up the line and yada, yada, yada like and if you just take the loss and you run back to the locker room you start throwing shit you hook off on somebody

Speaker 1 yeah that's not how you lose the great

Speaker 1 and the championship gods see again again there's spade gods there's monopoly gods if you believe in the universe there's gods to these things and if you play bad you get bad hands if you lose bad nigga we won't send a win in your direction if you believe in that if you believe in in that, I do.

Speaker 1 You got to learn how to lose. I disagree.
This is not how you lose. This is just a really bad way to lose.
Joe, you're missing something. This is what he does.

Speaker 1 Go back to the degrassi days. No.
Listen. Listen.
Listen.

Speaker 1 He was on a degrassi show. Shot his ass.
Shot him in the wheelchair. In the back.
And you know what? He threatened

Speaker 1 the direction to get out the wheelchair.

Speaker 2 And do you know why?

Speaker 1 Because he said, yo, I'm trying to rap, and this is going to make me look weak and rap if my character on TV is in a wheelchair. That's crazy that he doesn't think this makes him look weak, though.

Speaker 1 But it worked, though.

Speaker 1 They came, you know, that's what I'm saying. So when I don't get my way.
Man, but it was such a small scale. Well, that's part of the Karen profile.
Exactly. That's what is part of the Karen.

Speaker 1 So this is who you've always been.

Speaker 1 This ain't new. This gets my way, get my way, get my way.
This ain't new.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, shit, it worked.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm looking at y'all like it worked. Why? What did I say? I ain't never lost.
So

Speaker 1 this is my go-to. I don't have to know how to lose.
Michael Jordan is a sore loser. Kobe Bryan is a sore loser.
Every nigga that's a great is a sore loser. Them niggas don't lose gracefully.

Speaker 1 And they look at you like you crazy if you lose gracefully. How dare you come back to this locker room and not be pouting? Oh, I disagree with Michael and Kobe not losing gracefully.

Speaker 1 I totally disagree with that.

Speaker 2 No, I feel like

Speaker 1 Kobe was very focal on the body. Kobe was in the gym that night.
Both of them. Michael Jordan was punching niggas in their face in the locker room, bro.

Speaker 1 It wasn't no losing gracefully for the niggas that are great.

Speaker 1 They don't lose gracefully, Joe.

Speaker 1 Competitor, Joe. Competitor.
In the public eye, I think they lost more gracefully than what we know really losing.

Speaker 1 Don't competitor me to death because you're naming real competitors and the loss adds to what makes them great with what they do with it. No, I agree with that.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 No, I'm agreeing with that because the guy said

Speaker 1 Nick Anderson took the ball, kicked Michael Jordan in the back of his ass, boom,

Speaker 1 went, scored in the layup, sent him home. No, he didn't do all of that home.
What I said, my boy hosted. Nick, they sent him home.
They sent him on his way when he came back in his return season.

Speaker 1 Hey, get the fuck out of here, you rusty bitch. That's what they did.
And he came back and, shit, wasn't that the

Speaker 1 second of the three points? Second of three points.

Speaker 1 The first and the second of the three points.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to take that. You Lord Zeke, they came back and whipped the magic ass.
Yep.

Speaker 1 They beat the Magic ass.

Speaker 1 I'm taking the shit. Dog shit.
Dennis Scott came on the court. Nigga.

Speaker 1 Dog,

Speaker 1 when the Lakers lost to Boston, Colby said, yo, he was fucked up, bro. Like, he was fucked up.
Like, yo, I could have lost to anybody but them.

Speaker 1 I was fucked up. To y'all gonna point, listen, LeBron walking out of Boston Garden in Cleveland at that last game.
We was wanting to see the resurgent story from one of the greats.

Speaker 1 We want to see the comeback. We saw the L.
Got it. Everybody had a slice for a year.
Niggas got paid. They talk shit.

Speaker 1 They put smut on your name. That comes with being great.

Speaker 1 We wanted to see the comeback story. The comeback.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. I'm sad.
The L ain't. See, and now I'm

Speaker 1 on your side a little bit with that because

Speaker 1 the L ain't over, nigga. The Super Bowl, the biggest stage in the country is coming up.
And y'all still about to play this shit. This hit summer.

Speaker 1 This hit summer when we lost.

Speaker 1 now i gotta go home i gotta be in the gym from fucking when the when the playoffs he's gonna be in australia look for the playoffs the playoffs is may the season start back in november kendrick than kick my ass this summer he gonna kick my ass this winter and i'm back in the gym and i think that nigga got some shit in the gym i'm sure i think i think so yeah but will he pay for it

Speaker 2 What you mean pay? Pay for this.

Speaker 1 Will he pay if he

Speaker 1 if he has something that he feels confident in and has faith in,

Speaker 1 will he dig in his own pocket hire his own independent team to work and support this stuff it's it's no longer i don't know that it's no longer just show how to work i don't know so you that like to just show up to work i know i got it price we're coming hey the just show up to work days are over yeah you talking i don't know i don't know how that stuff works like the music business and all is he allowed to do that with me and time to universal probably not probably can't do it you get what i'm saying like is he allowed to do that at some point you got to do some fucking backdoor shit and figure some shit out but that they keep surprising.

Speaker 1 I did my backdoor shit. Shit, I did backdoor.

Speaker 1 Uploaded on again. Come on, my nigga.
Drop over here on Instagram. Yes, we got a little credit, my nigga.
If I'm trying to come back and take my L back or try.

Speaker 2 I mean, how does this end? This ends with me.

Speaker 1 The humbling part. I'm sorry, Mel.
The humbling part is recognizing when... You up against a different opponent? Or when you need someone.
Yeah. And the other thing.
Like, guess what?

Speaker 1 I could go, not to keep using me because, again, above my pay grade. But I could could go and do X, Y, Z on my own and we pull out the calculator and see how much it'll cost me, and I could do it.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 I could get with a partner who we kind of believe in each other's capabilities, and they could help to offset some of this load that's on my back. True.

Speaker 1 The problem in his case is, like y'all said, if he tries to do some other shit, get with a partner, some backdoor shit, the times have changed now. Everything is online.

Speaker 1 So with the push of a button, Universal can strike whatever you do. That's hard.
But there's also the real way.

Speaker 1 You can do different shit. You can change it.

Speaker 1 That would fucking change. You can't.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 hindsight. I'm talking about right now.

Speaker 1 Right now.

Speaker 1 How do you, how does he fuck? How do we, if I want to put out some shit? He could give away free bootlegs on all his tours that he's been constantly going on for the past three years.

Speaker 1 You could do a bunch of fucking sneaky fly shit that would actually look cool. Y'all got this one-on-one CD.
It's on a fucking CDR or a flash drive or something shit.

Speaker 1 You could do some fucking backdoor shit. We're all just so addicted to this shit.
You could humble it. But that was the other way.
I know, but there is other ways.

Speaker 1 You got to be on tour with another slave master. You got to be on tour with another slave master.
Or you could be doing your own shit to build your own shit up. Not even trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 Today, you give a nigga a CD. What are you going to play it on? If it's a Drake CD, maybe not a CD, a flash drive, whatever the fuck it is.
A little card with a fucking QR layer.

Speaker 1 I don't care what it is. Yeah, Paws.
Dog, you could humble yourself if you are in a contractual situation that you tried to get out of and cannot.

Speaker 1 The same way he humbled himself when they took that petition down and it says the day before on the deadline,

Speaker 1 he called UMG and Spotify to say, I'm taking this down. Do you guys agree? That's a humbling thing.
That is a change in position. You could go to your business partner, humble,

Speaker 1 and find something to say that says, For the duration of this contract,

Speaker 1 we're going to meet in the middle. I'm going to give you whatever you need, whatever they're fighting about he has to come up off of some of that just to end this

Speaker 1 because if he don't they are gonna end him. I'm not saying it's right

Speaker 1 I'm not saying none of it is right, but recognize who you in the ring with true now when they say all right cool We're gonna play nice you sign this three album deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is not for a new signature I'm under the premise of no I'm saying, but for us to play nice, we want to keep you here. We don't want to let you

Speaker 1 fulfill your control. You signed four more albums.
My nigga. You got to sign four more albums for us to even come to the motherfucking.
Contracts mean things.

Speaker 1 So, okay, granted, if the label wants to say, hey, you don't want to sign our new contract, we not keeping you hot or making you hot going into it. Or letting you get yourself hot.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 Or letting you complete it.

Speaker 1 No, see, that's weird. That's weird.

Speaker 1 Bro, if you have a double dynamic,

Speaker 1 it got a deadline.

Speaker 1 If you owe me two albums, if you owe me two albums left on the contract and I say, well, we're not dropping, you could have 15 albums done.

Speaker 1 We're not letting you drop the two albums to complete the contract. So I heard that's possible.
Bro, I know an artist personally that this happened to.

Speaker 1 He had one album left on the deal with Def Jam.

Speaker 1 The album done. He and Dream.
Had the next album ready to go. And they were like, Yo, dogs, no, we're not dropping this unless you sign us with a two album.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm playing along with your premise. So somebody told me that.
Hold on, I want to go with him. No, that can happen, right? Like,

Speaker 1 E1 didn't want to give me no money when it was my last album. They didn't want to pay for a single paper.
Nobody, that labels do that shit. So I got that.

Speaker 1 And if that's happening, then I would say that the fight is not

Speaker 1 or not solely harassment and defamation. Because you're spending money on a fight.
That's a fight. If, hey, I have been prepared to get out of this contract.
I have these albums.

Speaker 1 They are not counting them. That would be listed in part of my fight, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You should fight that. I agree with you if that was the case.
And you have all the, you're fighting already. See, once you're fighting already, let's fight.

Speaker 1 Let's get the real fight out. You have soiled the relationship.
I don't really see a...

Speaker 1 Let me not say never. Let me not say never.
I don't see a return, but... There could be a small beacon of hope or some loophole or a slither of light that's coming from somewhere.

Speaker 1 But this relationship currently, as it stands, is all the way, all the way down the toilet.

Speaker 1 Can I say something? So get all your fights out the way.

Speaker 1 If they're stopping you from completing your album, which we've heard rumors about, stopping them from completing his contract, then do something about that. I agree.

Speaker 1 I think this, again, it's just a desperation thing about the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 What up? In closing for me,

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 we know somebody that

Speaker 1 personally that...

Speaker 1 Completed all their obligations, but would not be let out of a deal that lasted for a long time.

Speaker 1 And I want to be careful what I say. And because of street codes and principles, they would not take,

Speaker 1 they would not or will not sue or take it to court. And that's where I'm conflicted at, right?

Speaker 1 I do want to live by the street, but I know somebody personally in a deal that is complaining and calling, and the nigga just won't let him out. No matter how many years pass, he just won't let.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not budging. Even one of the partners say, budge.
No, I'm not budging. Like these things happen, especially when you come privy to more information.

Speaker 1 So artists, every day, we're in an era of learning different things,

Speaker 1 rereading things and saying that, okay, I was at this point in my life when I signed this and I made you guys this amount of money.

Speaker 1 And then now I feel like I want to be treated fairly or I want to be out this. And there are some people that stand strong.
No, I'm not letting you out that shit. No.

Speaker 1 I know somebody right now and I just have to respect the game, but it just clicked in my head that this is happening every day, all day. See, my take on that, and

Speaker 1 it's my upbringing a little different, is the streets and business ain't the same thing. But

Speaker 1 you're trying to, we have put but you said they came into it here. That artist that you're speaking about, are they still in the streets?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no, but you're trying to adhere to street rules. Well, meaning y'all talking business.

Speaker 1 When I say street rules, meaning that I want to get out of this, but I'm not going to sue you guys because of how it

Speaker 1 will make me look. That's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about for me, just to make my point clear,

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at Drake Drake or any artist in the world beefing with a label, fighting with a label, or suing a label. For Drake, I'm mad at what he is fighting with this label about.

Speaker 1 I'm mad at how he's going about it, and I'm mad at what it stems from. Got it.
I'm with you, Joe. That's it.
All right. That's it.
Same. If he's fine with...

Speaker 1 All of the criticism that is going to come from the move, then who the fuck is anybody else to say, hey, dog, you a bitch, you corny, what would you do?

Speaker 1 Especially if he gets his desired outcome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever that is, and I ain't pretending to know. I ain't pretending to know.
He could want to get away from them. He could want to get more money from them.
He could want to, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He could just want to block this shit from the Super Bowl. Or he could just be that.

Speaker 1 It could just be that. And the only way to do that is legally.
I don't know. We'll see.

Speaker 1 I was hoping that Drake Kendrick stuff wouldn't permeate my 2025. So

Speaker 1 I didn't want to talk about this.

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 1 The fans would have had my ass if I had come in here and said, nope, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I thought about it.
And I ain't want them kicking my back in. I think our conversation was good.
It was great. I loved our conversation.
I'm just, I just,

Speaker 1 I'm having real, real life affairs. I'm sad.
I'm sad for real. I feel like when I cry for De Lost House.

Speaker 1 Anybody don't love this shit to say. I love this shit.
I can't believe that we are here right now. now.

Speaker 1 I'll be 45 anyway. I guess that's the area.
When you bring money into that shit, dog, all of the

Speaker 1 passion

Speaker 1 and shit like that starts to get questioned. Because money is the most important motivator of all of this shit.

Speaker 1 When you label it business, at that point, the nature of business is to turn the profit. And so it becomes fucked up.

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Speaker 1 All right, Flip. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 What were we talking about?

Speaker 1 We were talking about...

Speaker 1 Why somebody wouldn't let somebody else out of a recording contract or whatever production company contract or any contract you have if you are fly with them and have been with them for

Speaker 1 so after so many years after coming up together with them and if they call you about like 25 or 30 years later after reviewing their contract and saying yo after 30 years you reviewed your contract after 30 years no i'm just saying like well just trying to find loopholes and asking to get out of it i feel like you should accommodate them especially based on what

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 time

Speaker 1 uh loyalty,

Speaker 1 friendship. You listen all things that don't work in business.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 when I sign off first, that's what you're presenting to me. You're presenting those options.
Loyalty, friendship, time. I'm presenting a business contract.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 They put bad on the hook when you go fishing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but then it's fucked up, right?

Speaker 1 Then you...

Speaker 1 We got to get the fish out of the water. Smoking mirrors a lot, Joe.
It's a lot of smoking mirrors. That's the music business.
And niggas use love.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this is why

Speaker 1 the new age content creators or new age artists is winning. Because there's no more morals and principles.
And even if you try to implement them, niggas negate them. They forget about it.

Speaker 1 I forget about all that.

Speaker 1 If I was going through something, if I was signing to you for a long time, I would want to call you years later if something could happen for me.

Speaker 1 If I can't, if I can make another move, I wouldn't want to call you. Yo, Joe, listen.
It's been a long time, bro. So I'm going to let you go.
Do me a favor. Can you let me go?

Speaker 1 I'm going to let you go and watch you make another move.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you? Let me ask you a question. You're making the move yourself.
Why would I do that? Flip.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Flip.
Yes. So I let you out of the contract.
Yes. So I can go

Speaker 1 feed your family. Yes.
And I'm taking money out of my family's mouth.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because you made all the money already.
I went to web fucking six, seven years later when I didn't have a pot to go. You told me you did that shit.
Everything was out the window.

Speaker 1 I didn't see how anybody could even view me as profitable. And I'm like, yo, dog, it's over, yo.
Let me out. And he's like, why would I do that?

Speaker 1 I put this amount of money in you. I bought the studio equipment.
I was picking the records. I fought with the DJs.
I ran around radio stations. I did all of this shit for years.

Speaker 1 And I ain't really make no money back. So why would I let you out?

Speaker 1 I was like, well, I guess you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that doesn't make it right. I mean, Webb told me on the phone, he said, how proud of you, you found another way, and you found a way to make it happen.
I did the same thing that I just said.

Speaker 1 The blueprint was laid out before us.

Speaker 1 The people that I see make it happen, they did it outside of music. But what if you, okay, so then

Speaker 1 when you're saying that if I were to stay in music, I owe fucking who I owe it, I owe some shit now musically. I probably owe some slaughterhouse albums, I probably owe Empire album.

Speaker 1 Did my publishing deal? Oh, it's finished now. Salute, salute.
But shit, 20 years in the pub deal.

Speaker 1 I've got people that was fly that I met up there. Shout out to Jessica Revere, all the people that was working in that building.

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all have made all the money. At least give me some money or let's just end this so I could go really feed my family.
No.

Speaker 1 You know what bothers me a little bit? I get it.

Speaker 1 But it seems like somebody who was so headstrong, once you got in position, you end up conforming to the same rules that was implemented that we were against.

Speaker 1 I'm one of the only ones that don't conform. I say that all the time.
What I mean by conforming.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do. The example is me.
I I don't sign off my rights. I don't sign off my likeness.
I don't just willingly relinquish.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about that, Joe. That's what I'm probably saying the wrong thing.
What I mean, conform is that you're now speaking from the other side of the table. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 I don't mean conform. You're speaking from the other side of the table, which is like, why would I let you out?

Speaker 1 But when you were the artist, when you were going through that, you would hope that a web and nitty would say, yo,

Speaker 1 all right. Because I love you,

Speaker 1 because we gave you these promises. I'm going to let you out.
You would hope that. You keep kind of making that point point you did a little bit earlier.

Speaker 1 I'm continue to highlight the difference is if you are complicit in the system, then that's on you. Okay, yeah.
I, from year three or four, was trying to find a way out of this shit to never return.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 it wasn't acting in your favor.

Speaker 1 I was unhappy. I know.
I was unhappy.

Speaker 1 I was unhappy. It's not what I wanted to do.
I wanted to bet on me at all times. I understand.
If I had an album, I wanted to be able to to just drop my album.

Speaker 1 I didn't want nobody telling me, hey, you can't do this, you can't do that. We control your shit.
I didn't want that.

Speaker 1 Some people want that. What I've learned, and I've said this before in this podcast, is most of the people that I'm preaching to, the good fight of

Speaker 1 independence and a union and unity and the power and numbers, they want to be in the situations that they're in. They don't want that shit to be a single thing.
It's a safety. It's a comfortability.

Speaker 1 It's more risk involved. Bro, it's a safety and comfortability in getting a check every week.
It is. Facts.
Niggas can say what I don't want to get up out the comfy living room and go make it happen.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to try to convince you.

Speaker 1 And I know that when I do try to convince you, if you hide enough, somebody is on the other side offering you something that is undeniable for you to feed your family. We come from poverty.

Speaker 1 So I could be telling you, hey, from experience, hey, do it yourself, do it yourself, do it yourself. Get it out, get it out the mud.

Speaker 1 If somebody else come and say, yo, here go a million dollars right now. Here go $2 million.
Here go $5, $10 million. Yo, I'm not going to be mad at nobody for making the best decision for them.

Speaker 1 But I also understand how the game is played now that I was a part of it, fell victim to it, fought my way out of it, and now watch from afar. What if you're in a production deal, right?

Speaker 1 And then every deal you try to go get...

Speaker 1 What if you're in a production deal and then... I guess I'm saying it right.

Speaker 1 And if you try to go get a new deal, the people that have you in a deal from a long time ago is still eating off of you and eating a big chunk. No, bam, no.
I invested in you.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't be able to get that production deal. You invested in me years ago and you made that money back and you made more than that.
That's not what a production

Speaker 1 deal is. I'm saying, am I saying the wrong thing? No, no, no, no.
I'm saying if you're in a production deal,

Speaker 1 then that's what you are agreeing to. You're naming a production deal is you're going to cat, we are going to be,

Speaker 1 we're going to build you and carry along with whatever deal you go get popping because we're the production deal. We're not a label.
If you sign to a label, you can't go sign to another label. True.

Speaker 1 We're the production company. We're going to develop you, build you up, make you a star for the label and for the brands to come fuck with you.
What if you no longer have a hand in making me a star?

Speaker 1 What if you no longer have a hand? There's no such thing as that. When I made you, I made you.

Speaker 1 Joke. Oh, here, Joe.
You understand what I'm saying? But

Speaker 1 I'm responding to you. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
I made you the star. I'm agreeing with you.
But I get the other side. I get it too.
Yo, there's, listen to this, right?

Speaker 1 Let's just say, hypothetically, hypothetically. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 1 Jay-Z

Speaker 1 signed Rihanna to a 360,

Speaker 1 you can't become Rihanna that owns Fenty, which is a billion-dollar brand. Yes.
If I never had umbrella.

Speaker 1 You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So indirectly, that person is still responsible for some of all of your ongoing successes. Because if I never put you in front of the spotlight before, then...

Speaker 1 You never become this.

Speaker 1 I don't, I get it. I'm not saying that.
But then everybody suffers, right? So I'm no longer going to to make music or get the deals. So you can, like, everybody suffers.

Speaker 1 Except the person that put their money out of their pocket the first time to make you a star.

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep recouping some money because if it was not for my money, you wouldn't have what you got today. And I don't think everybody suffers.
I think you're the only one that's suffering.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might be the person that's suffering.

Speaker 1 You're going to be the only one that's going to suffer. Yeah.
A manager can manage his whole life. Yeah.
An artist can't artist his whole life. That's true.

Speaker 1 A production company can go find anybody and do this same thing again, unless you're an outlier, like a Hobe or, you know, the one-up ones. Drake is a one-off-one.

Speaker 1 But other than that,

Speaker 1 the game is the game.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like when an artist decides that they no longer want to be attached to the production company, right? Do you feel like that's a mistake, or you should just always just

Speaker 1 go along with it? Circumstantial.

Speaker 1 Circumstantial. Got it.
I think it's circumstantial. I think that there's some marriages that seem to work.

Speaker 1 Right? Like there's a lot of production companies that act as a TDE for whatever the artist is and this is silent and they they do it they work

Speaker 1 and you kind of want that you recognize the benefit of the relationship there's some where there's some a lot of production companies that don't do shit so but but we but we have the contract do you do you think this

Speaker 1 do you think it's predatory Joe like do you think business is predatory I don't think those contracts are predatory because again you don't you didn't get to that next step without this company taking you in there I think I look at trapdoor and I don't think that because you helped me when I was 20 exactly

Speaker 1 me when I'm 40. Thank you.
I don't think that. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I think it's nuance, and I get it. If I put my money out of my pocket, I put you on a diet, I put you with the nutritionists, I paid them.
I put you with the stylists. I got your X, Y, Z done.

Speaker 1 You were not that

Speaker 1 when you walked in my office. You had a voice when you walked in my office.
I made you a brand. I'm supposed to...
reap the benefits of my hard work.

Speaker 1 I still don't think though that I should be owning you

Speaker 1 for the next 20 or 30 years. But what if it's a fair deal? Hold Hold on, let me ask you a question.
Well, if it's fair, then it's fair. Because I don't think other people

Speaker 1 like a low percentage or something like that. What if they just get a small cut of everything after they're out of the peace? Out of the equation.
Yeah, I'm getting a piece every time.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask y'all, do you think that Jazz Prince should be getting money off of Drake today?

Speaker 1 He was the one who discovered Drake. He was the one who called Wayne and said, yo, I got this nigga right here.
This nigga's ill. I'm going to bring him in.
You need to holler at him.

Speaker 1 You need to hear this nigga. Yes.

Speaker 1 And that was, what, 05 or something? Shout out to Jazz, man. I do think so.
And I think that, I think that's the. You say no.
Wait, wait, let him answer. You say no.
Really?

Speaker 1 I think the time's passed already. I think I made you enough money, man.
I can get him to go do it my own.

Speaker 2 Do you think that every deal should have an expiration date?

Speaker 1 I do. Yeah.
I do.

Speaker 1 I was about to say that. I do, because unless it's understood from the beginning, a lot of times when we're making this deal, niggas make these deal and stuff.

Speaker 2 I don't know if anybody actually makes the deal. And that says the whole perpetuity thing, like up front.
That's usually the finest of fun.

Speaker 1 No, I understand, but I just want the lawyers of lawyers you go get with your lawyers yeah yeah i agree that this business is predatory and what i mean by this is we we target they target now we they target the younger acts and there's ageism in this shit so yes but you have to go pay your attorney You have to go pay your business accountant, your business manager, your road manager, your production company.

Speaker 1 Sometimes niggas try to keep the money from the production company. Lord knows I did sometimes.

Speaker 1 You got to pay the people. What you'll learn is an artist, and most artists don't want to pay nobody.

Speaker 1 Most artists think they should get 100% of the pie.

Speaker 1 All of this is because of me, and that's it. But if you're an artist trying to make it, let's say you got away from the production company.
Yes.

Speaker 1 In your next phase, you have to pay for services still.

Speaker 1 That money that the production company was taking for their service, if you don't pay Ace 4 services, you ain't getting them. True.
You're not just taking this money and putting it in your pocket.

Speaker 1 That's true. It's like in my field, property manager.
Yo, dog, when somebody's managing your property, you might be giving them a commission. It's months that they don't do shit.

Speaker 1 But then it's months when it might be three feet of snow outside and they get the snow going and you ain't have to get out your bed.

Speaker 1 It's times where the grass be up here and the nigga cuts the grass and you don't get out of bed. It's a service that you're paying for.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So you getting optimum rent because they are doing a service for you. Y'all,

Speaker 1 y'all artists out there to who this applies to,

Speaker 1 all them times that you pick up your phone to express either a grievance, an idea,

Speaker 1 a thought,

Speaker 1 an action that needs to be executed, those ain't just phone calls.

Speaker 1 When you pick up the phone to call your lawyer, I hate them fucking invoices. Them niggas charge you in 15-minute increments.

Speaker 1 20-year lawyer, when when Lizzo or somebody, when somebody pick up the phone with a problem with their Uber Eats order and want to get in touch with the owner of Uber Eats, hey, I'm going to send a tweet.

Speaker 1 But contact Uber Eats and let them know. Contact Delta Airlines.
Yo, let them know that the airport treated me unfairly.

Speaker 1 You calling in somebody with the pull to do this and get anytime an artist wants somebody to get something done, it is a service. a point.

Speaker 1 Pay for it. True.
Got it.

Speaker 1 And that's how I feel. That's true.
That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 I still think it should be

Speaker 1 a terminating point on a bunch of these contracts, yo. You got to work your way out of it.
Like, I agree with both of y'all on the Jazz Prince point.

Speaker 1 Yes, I think Jazz Prince still be compensated. He should be compensated the whole ride.
Or you buy your way out. Yes.

Speaker 1 True. And it's been enough years to where,

Speaker 1 listen, Drake has successfully, for all we know, know, handled the Jazz Prince shit. Young money.

Speaker 1 Young money.

Speaker 1 Cash money. Oh, that one too.

Speaker 1 Whomever. His OVO shit with these people.

Speaker 1 And Universal is the final boss. Universal is the chess master now.

Speaker 1 But he has successfully done these things.

Speaker 1 This one will be a bit more difficult.

Speaker 1 I wish him all the luck in the world. I'll save the audience from

Speaker 1 personal jabs at the band.

Speaker 1 Like all of that, you a bitch, and you like, y'all know where I'm from. You know what I think.
I spent all last year telling y'all what I think about some of the behavior. This is sad to me.

Speaker 1 This is sad to me. I'm going to play outstanding or something.

Speaker 1 Yo, you said. Prayers to all parties involved, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it, man. Thoughts and prayers.
Yeah, thoughts and prayers. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 You got to read them contracts, Breeze.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Let's give it Drake's house, Daniel.

Speaker 1 It's my first night here. And this girl right here, who knows what she knows.
So I'm going through a phone. And she she's going to bathroom with her burst right there.
I don't trust her.

Speaker 1 That's just a result of me paying attention to all these women that think like men with the same intentions. Talking strippers and models who try to gain attention.

Speaker 1 Even a couple porn stars that I'm ashamed of mentioning. But we feel stunned, my only role models.

Speaker 1 Half of Jordan, my only role models.

Speaker 1 That's why I walk around with all this gold on. And every time I run into these niggas,

Speaker 1 we get back to it. I promise.

Speaker 1 Shout out to those just now joining up shit.

Speaker 1 I'm all concerned with niggas thinking about Christmas in August.

Speaker 1 Do anything if I guess for their daughters?

Speaker 1 Guess I'll shake a brick in the press. Shapping like Mrs.
Bills, they making the cookie stretch.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're lying if you say you ain't gonna miss this guy.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. I know y'all new fans out there is trying to act like all the latest slaps is the same slaps.
You are lying to me if you're telling me you're not gonna miss this guy.

Speaker 1 Miss him already. Been missing him.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? Same. That's what I thought on that last shit he put out when he, uh, when he was like, uh, I got a body double.
I was like, shit, that's what the fuck I've been saying.

Speaker 1 That is not me. Yes, nigga.
No, go get you.

Speaker 1 Oh, my Lord, man. Go get you.
It's crazy. What else we got that is important, unimportant? Is there anything else in music y'all want to talk about?

Speaker 1 The assaults? The OGs is OGing, boy.

Speaker 1 Which one you want to start? Restoring the feeling. For real.
Play around with these niggas.

Speaker 1 Play around with these niggas.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. I don't either.
I'm just joking. I like Method Man's.
I don't like Buster Rhymes. No, his.
Yeah, the situation. Yeah, I love him.
I don't like what he did. What Meth did, I get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Meth caught his face.
Allegedly. Meth caught his daughter's ex

Speaker 1 at Crunch Fitness. Yeah, Crunch Fitness.
And punched him in the face. And I think that even that's very Method Man being at Crunch Fitness.

Speaker 1 Is that who I think?

Speaker 1 I ain't in lifetime. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I'm from the bottom. I'm in crunch, nigga.

Speaker 2 29, 99. Was there a reason given as to why he punched him in the ditch?

Speaker 1 It's just his daughter's ex. And he.

Speaker 1 Sometimes ain't no reason. You don't need to give a reason.
You're talking about it. Okay.
Sometimes I tell the media why Merry Fistmas you up. Sometimes Louis.

Speaker 1 I read enough in just seeing that it's his daughter's ex from over a decade ago and she's 28. That's it.
Yeah. That was enough for me.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the punishment tells you what the crime was.

Speaker 1 Method man catching you in crunch fitness and punching you nine times upside your head. Seven times.
Seven times. That's what they report.
You know, you gave him two more. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, come on, come on. Nine, you're five percent or you're going to give him seven.
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Nah, you take this seven. You told him today's math, nigga.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was all I needed to say.

Speaker 1 Yep, I'm with him. Jazz being a dad.
That's right. Girl dads.
Amen.

Speaker 1 Whooped his ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So shout to Met the Man.
I have no problem with catching somebody in Crunch Fitness and putting the beats on them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Buster Rhymes, however,

Speaker 1 beating his fucking

Speaker 1 50-year-old assistant is not quite the same to me. I didn't realize your assistant was 50.
He was 50 years old. Oh, yeah.
Bust on. I'm about to say, hold on.
Buster 50.

Speaker 1 Somebody said he was on the phone at work or some shit.

Speaker 1 See the article right now? I don't matter that 250-year-olds getting shaken. Buster might be 50.
But But 250-year-olds didn't get it shaken.

Speaker 1 One 50-year-old assaulted somebody and they ran down the street.

Speaker 1 Why they want to shake back?

Speaker 1 Then that's not two people getting shaken. I agree with you.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, they're kind of.

Speaker 1 Yo, you got to keep your eye on the 50-plus-year-olds that get it shaken.

Speaker 1 Like, there's 50-year-olds that be like, Yo, I'm 50.

Speaker 1 I'm 50 now. Nah, a lot of these 50-year-old niggas that came from the time

Speaker 1 that came from the time when you had to put your hands up.

Speaker 1 They come from that.

Speaker 1 Which means, for me, if you violate them,

Speaker 1 you will learn. You will know.
I'm talking about the 50-plus-year-olds. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You went now.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the 50-plus-year-olds that are initiating violence

Speaker 1 out there. And I'm not saying that that's Buster Rhymes.

Speaker 1 The assistant would say it's Buster Rhymes.

Speaker 1 You might have caught that assistant doing some bullshit. The assistant didn't make PTA, another case of bad PTA, or scenario, or what's it going to be? Put your hands where my eyes can see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he put them. Yeah, now he did.
He put them. He did.
So hopefully, the assistant is well. That's funny.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, all parties are well except for the ex-boyfriend.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm not with that. I'm not with that.
That's my take.

Speaker 1 That is it. Salute.
That's my take on that.

Speaker 1 Salute.

Speaker 1 I wonder if Spliff Star was there kicking in there.

Speaker 1 I don't think Spliff Star was there kicking.

Speaker 1 Yo, yeah, I hear

Speaker 1 the Supreme Court upheld it. The TikTok ban is officially going into effect Sunday.

Speaker 1 I've heard varying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I heard that. Varying story.

Speaker 1 They're not doing nothing, and Trump is going to try to save it. I don't know what the fuck's going on.
I know my wife found some other. There's some new shit that they found.
Some new afterwards?

Speaker 1 No, there's a new app that's like...

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Some other shit. The Chinese...

Speaker 1 Rednote? No.

Speaker 1 The Chinese people are mad.

Speaker 1 Who owns that? Who are on? They're over there crying because white people came. Chinese.
Chinese. They came over there and they started trolling.

Speaker 1 Wait, what happened? No, it's not that they started trolling. My barber was telling me.
The Chinese people are mad and they're making videos crying because white people have invaded Red Note.

Speaker 1 That's what's going on there. But some of them are being like welcoming.
Like, come on, Americans.

Speaker 1 They're writing in Chinese and they're showing pictures of them crying on Twitter. Tight.
Like Libo Salone. You came over here with your same shit.
That red note is not. Christopher Columbus behavior.

Speaker 1 You came over as well. Come over here colonizing.

Speaker 1 Tight. Discover Beijing.
Get your fucking ass out of there.

Speaker 1 You can't skip.

Speaker 1 Hajoy.

Speaker 1 Put your Nina and your Pinta. Get the fuck out of my country.

Speaker 1 Joe, you know they upset you. But what your papa told you, Joe.
He was really excited about that red note play. He said he likes it a lot.

Speaker 1 He said a lot of the people that really enjoyed TikTok or were sad to see it go, found an alternative, and they enjoy it just the same.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rem said all her little people that do the book clubs and all that shit on TikTok. It's a big deal, apparently.
They're all over there. So she's like, I'm good.
On Red Note. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They moved it right on. So what's the difference? I thought it was.
So the Red Note is owned by Chinese people as well. I believe so, yeah.
Yeah, it's not English.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, but wasn't the argument this was a Chinese-owned brand

Speaker 1 that posed a security security risk correct yeah so we just transitioned to a different chinese owned brand yeah yeah i just finished saying that people will relinquish their rights and want to be there people volunteer to do these things

Speaker 1 i just said that and maybe they don't take as much data or something i don't know

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 probably not why the chinese are mad though that's the funniest bro they they they are tight-ish

Speaker 1 Get out. You heathens, I'm not saying that, but that's what they're saying.
On X,

Speaker 1 get out. My barber thought that he found a a friend in me he's like yo man you use tick tock

Speaker 1 no no

Speaker 1 no never had it never downloaded it i watch the tick tock joints when they make it to other platforms and and uh i got my girl login

Speaker 1 just in case

Speaker 1 yeah yeah

Speaker 1 which doesn't make for the best time during breakups either i bet not

Speaker 1 Stupid ass me. We had broke up, but it was a light breakup.
We knew we'd be back together in like five days. But she want attention.

Speaker 1 So every time we break up, she got to go put on some video and go out and shake her ass and tits somewhere. And she's going to film it right in the bedroom in front of a little stupid mirror.

Speaker 1 And she's going to post it somewhere so I can see it. But she posted the TikTok link on Twitter.
Ah. And I was in bed, miserable and sad.
I clicked the TikTok link. Can't get in, buddy.

Speaker 1 Clicked the TikTok link.

Speaker 1 Can't get in. They asked me a series of questions.
I answer them. I I get in.

Speaker 1 Three minutes later,

Speaker 1 she sent me a text with the code that is sent her phone.

Speaker 1 She said, yo, dog, here go to code in case she's looking for size. And indeed, I have it.
I have it. Thanks.
I'm in. I'm in it.
Thanks.

Speaker 1 Here go to the code you looking for, big dog.

Speaker 1 That's funny. That's hilarious.
That's bad. No, y'all skipped the major part.
What was that? They asked me a series of questions. No, the prompts.
The prompts, yeah. The prompt fucking message.

Speaker 1 That means the cost. Whatever's there, and then they let you in.
But it's send the email. Oh, I thought it was, who was your dog in third grade? No, no.
Nah, nah, nah. Oh, that was.

Speaker 1 That's what I thought it was, too.

Speaker 1 That'll make him a fucking creep. Oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 That was the Capacha. The Capcha.
The Capcha shit. Wait, that's what you're talking about me? Wow.
You talking to me, bro.

Speaker 1 You might know where she went to elementary school and what her favorite food is.

Speaker 1 What? Elementary. That's his girl.

Speaker 1 Elementary. All right, just to clear the record, I I don't know nothing about my girl as it doesn't pertain to me.
I don't know where she was. You don't know your child's favorite colour joke?

Speaker 1 No, stop. I'm joking right now.
Oh, man, I was about to say, you're still talking to me.

Speaker 1 That sounds good. My favorite song is Barry White.
This nigga know all of security question answers, nigga. You ain't fooling nobody.

Speaker 1 You didn't hear the story. The nigga got past the second password on the phone.
I didn't know they had a possibility of that. Who said that? Oh, back in the day.
Yeah. Oh, oh.

Speaker 1 He is unwavering.

Speaker 1 This nigga takes my distance to another level, bro. I used to be off.

Speaker 1 I used to be off.

Speaker 1 And back before they had advanced the tracking systems, and you had to just drive to her job, hide in the car, and wait till she gets off. Duck, you got a duck.
And then she starts speeding.

Speaker 1 You start speeding, stupid ass bitch. I got caught at the light.
No license.

Speaker 1 She's zooming up 7th Avenue.

Speaker 1 She's getting a grain.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I did all that sickle shit.
Listen, Joe did that. So hopefully you won't have to go through that.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You got something wrong with you, sir. And we grow.
We listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 And we grow. You still crazy.

Speaker 1 You still broke out. No, I'm not.
Joe, stop it. No, I'm not.
You just met somebody crazier than you, and I love it. I love to watch you stuck.
Shout out to your match, bro. You met your match.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for 44-year-old Joe, yeah.

Speaker 1 She couldn't fuck with 30-year-old Joe.

Speaker 1 Popping up on you, nigga, like that, the way she be popping up. I think she would have had her hands full with 33-year-old, 34-year-old Joe.
But I'm in settle-down mode. I'm in.

Speaker 1 That's what they say now, right? Frank Ice. He's much calmer now.
I'm gonna give her. I'm gonna give him that.
You don't ain't much calmer than that. You done gave her a headache.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I ain't even trying to. She had more frequent fly miles than anybody in the world.

Speaker 1 You don't give her a headache. Carmen San Diego type shit.
Flying around China. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we was in Starlit. I said, hey, yo, look shot age, Joe.

Speaker 1 She bought her.

Speaker 1 I said, oh,

Speaker 1 Joseph,

Speaker 1 it's funny to me.

Speaker 1 I I love it. I love my beige.
It's funny. That's funny.
I let her do it for 20 minutes. She ain't put that phone up yet.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's crazy. No,

Speaker 2 I swear. I'm looking at this TikTok band stuff.

Speaker 2 I swear to God.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at this TikTok band stuff. Show these niggas that you read.
Here we go. But you got the up shit, man, where you press up and go to the different sections.
Shut up, okay?

Speaker 1 Swipe the app real quick. You can swipe up shit out.
Do the swipe up real quick, man. You want to tell us about your findings?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's a whole lot of nothing.

Speaker 1 You didn't put your reading glasses on. Like, tell us, what's happening? I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 Since you're reading for 20 minutes,

Speaker 1 like, what'd you come up with? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 That was why it took me 20 minutes because I don't have my fucking readers.

Speaker 1 Whatever. What did they say?

Speaker 2 They're just basically saying that the law takes a picture fuck off.

Speaker 1 But why do you mean?

Speaker 1 I'm not lying. Why are you all a legend? I'm not lying.
You're lying about lying.

Speaker 1 I'm not reading a lot for her. I'm not talking about shit.
Yeah, she's a legend, son.

Speaker 1 Read without my phone. No.
Right now.

Speaker 1 Because you know it's not going to support what you're saying right now. So were you reading and thinking about something else? Because you just said the shit on the surface.
She over here in box.

Speaker 1 No, but the thing is, let her read it.

Speaker 1 January 19th. That's a good one, Ice.
Anyways,

Speaker 1 what else? What else? What else? What else? What else? What else is going on? Did y'all see

Speaker 1 Wendy on the Breakfast Club? Yes. I did.
I didn't are there. No, but I actually set an alarm because I wanted to hear the whole thing.

Speaker 1 I don't ever listen to the her here, but I wanted to hear the whole thing. And? How was it?

Speaker 1 She did sound.

Speaker 1 She sounded good. I mean, she sounded distressed and all that shit, but she sounded a good, she sounded, yeah, coherent, I guess.

Speaker 1 After listening,

Speaker 1 I'm not an expert or anything. I don't think she needs that

Speaker 1 guardianship shit that they have her in.

Speaker 2 This looks really bad for the judge and for the

Speaker 1 she's like, she's up there like, dude,

Speaker 1 they control. Like,

Speaker 1 if you don't call me, I can't even call out. Yeah.
They got rid of cats. Yeah.
She was like,

Speaker 1 someone has to unlock my door for me to walk out. Like, she described this shit like she's literally in jail.
She's in some fancy jails, what she described it as.

Speaker 1 And then she's saying the people that she's on the floor with are really having, you know, like mental problems. She's like, I shouldn't even be here with these people.

Speaker 1 It was fucked up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she said that she made it sound like she was like in a convalescent home where everybody was like around like 80 and 90 and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 But she also indicated by what she didn't say that there was a lot she could not say for legal reasons. So she had her niece on the phone with her.

Speaker 2 And obviously she's had a lot of conversations with Charlemagne. So she relied on her niece and for Charlemagne to say the things that she couldn't say.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, but the thing, the thing that most people took away from it is that she did sound very

Speaker 2 coherent. And so it just kind of made you wonder about all the reports that were coming out about the dementia and whatnot.

Speaker 1 What we saw. I think when people see stuff, it hits harder.

Speaker 2 The A ⁇ E documentary.

Speaker 1 When they had that documentary on, she did not look well.

Speaker 1 She didn't. In all fairness, I'm not trying to.
We're just having conversation.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they talked about that too during the interview.

Speaker 1 I think that,

Speaker 1 like when you go to court sometimes, you don't ever sit with the judge, Dolo. Right.
You get what I'm saying? Like, you don't sit with the judge.

Speaker 1 So whoever hires the best attorney, that's the depiction that they're going to give you. In your case, I'm telling you, even with your case,

Speaker 1 if that film was not available to be seen, my nigga now is at the who could present the argument the best. You hear what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So if she never had an opportunity to sit with the judge, they got this big-ass A ⁇ E doc that's showing her not seemingly in the best light and in the best state of mind, then the judge is going to be like, all right, cool.

Speaker 1 I'm going to rock with you.

Speaker 1 A couple, I don't know the process, so y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but there should be some level of experts on each side to at least evaluate you and there should be a re re-evaluation period or something when it comes to this because the person i heard on the radio like i said i don't think that person you watch a doc i saw the docs about the document

Speaker 1 now one thing i will say she did get a little confused at times in the interview yeah like she'll she

Speaker 1 quieted everybody so she could talk and then got a little jammed up or confused and was just like telling her niece yo you you talk you talk, you talk. But she still seemed in right mind though.

Speaker 1 The way they made it seem like is she don't know what day it is and what's going on.

Speaker 2 And the reason why I think she said for her niece to talk is because, again, the legal issues that she can't speak on. You know, so, but it just.

Speaker 1 She has a family that loves her, so why am I in this? Like, I have family members that are coherent, they're able and willing. This is all the information.

Speaker 1 They can take care of me up until my final days. What's going on here? Yeah, surely there must be some at-home care that you could get that would

Speaker 1 allow her to live

Speaker 1 relatively nearly. She was up there saying how she was trying to get down to Florida, to Miami, where her family is.
She's her dad's 94th birthday.

Speaker 2 And they're making it seem like, we'll let you know if we're going to let you go.

Speaker 1 She's like, yo, my family is not up here. Yeah, y'all know me from New York, radio, all of that.
But she's like, years ago, her mom and her mother and father were the first ones that moved to Miami.

Speaker 1 And then the rest of the family went. Like, we're not, my family's not up here.
Her son was in Florida for a while on the dock. Hassan was in college in Florida.

Speaker 1 You're going to learn about these different businesses when you need to.

Speaker 1 Same way we keep saying the music business is a business. This conservative shit is all business.
It's a system and it's broken. Yeah.
That's a business system. Exactly.

Speaker 1 This is one that Kanye has spoken about. Brittany has spoken about.
Some people have tried to bring awareness to it. Wendy is next in line.

Speaker 1 If you think that them people are not paying themselves handsomely for whatever is or is not going on. Consultation fee, all that.

Speaker 2 And they already receive like a really, really hefty commission or payment for their role as guardian.

Speaker 1 Well, I believe you. So.
Which is the grammy shit of now, why would they now come forward and say, nah, she good?

Speaker 1 They not. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no incentive for you. Bro, Wendy says she got $15 to her name.

Speaker 1 She's like, I got $15. Oh, I believe you.
Well, not to her name. I mean, but in terms of access.

Speaker 2 She has no access to her money whatsoever.

Speaker 1 That she has access to. So she got $15 It's her name.
That's how I took it. The conservatorship is in somebody else's name, and they got to give me the okay to get my own spanky.
What?

Speaker 1 I mean, how does that happen, though? That's crazy. Based off what you sign when you get in bed with these people? Yes.
They said the bank set that up.

Speaker 1 Like, it was the bank that started all of this shit. If I make a lot of money and I'm getting old, they can make a decision to, like, that.
Don't you sign over stuff to your family and put names like

Speaker 1 stuff like that. Yeah.
But if you don't have that in place so let's say you don't have these things in place right and

Speaker 1 a bank starts to see an excessive amount of money moving out of your account that's not normal

Speaker 1 they may it may raise a red flag they said her son was wilder

Speaker 1 but she said 180 she just said her son was wild and her son was taking money etc etc and i was just objectively speaking but you might have been saying no that wasn't me i want to charge back you know i mean and then then they like, yo, dog.

Speaker 1 But she

Speaker 1 was like, yes, I know he had these things. I know this was happening.
That's my son. And let him, yeah.

Speaker 1 A judge in a probiotic court decides whether to establish a conservatorship, reviewing evidence to determine if someone is incapacitated and needs a conservator to manage their personal affairs or finances.

Speaker 1 They also choose the suitable individual to serve as the conservator if necessary. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 Listen, none of us here are experts on conservatorship, so I don't want to put ourselves in a position to speak on it. That's true.
And we don't know how it happened, how it started.

Speaker 1 We don't know anything. We wish Wendy Williams well.
For sure. From what we heard and saw, it sounds like a really fucked up predicament.

Speaker 1 And hopefully them doing that interview and bringing some awareness to it can make a change. It was good to hear from her, like her own words.

Speaker 1 It was good. Shout out to Wendy.
Shout out to her. Yeah, no, legend.
And she still managed to get her puff shots here. She did.

Speaker 1 That's what I said. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, she back. She good.
She good. There she go.

Speaker 1 That's the Wendy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else we got, man? I got a question for y'all since Flip want to keep talking about loyalty.

Speaker 1 Using people

Speaker 1 that are not family members. Okay.

Speaker 1 Describe to me what your perfect version of loyalty looks like.

Speaker 1 For example

Speaker 1 off the top of my head I would say

Speaker 1 Alonzo Morning slash Udonis Haslam to Pat Riley

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 an example is what you're asking for roughly using people yes

Speaker 1 your version of loyalty or loyalty that you would like to have looks like what through people?

Speaker 1 Push a teeth to Farrell. Tata to Jay.

Speaker 1 Kendrick to TD. Bleak DJ.
Bleak to Jay.

Speaker 2 Big to J.

Speaker 1 That's what I like about the Kendrick TD thing is he seems like he's doing his own thing, yet is still loyal. I like that.
I like that one. And vice versa.
And vice versa, yeah. And vice versa.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 It's some better ones.

Speaker 2 Kelly DeBeonte.

Speaker 1 Hmm. You got it?

Speaker 1 No, and I'm not going to question y'all.

Speaker 1 So fucking.

Speaker 1 Jordan to Phil Jackson, though, eh?

Speaker 1 No. But again,

Speaker 1 because some of these are in question, we really don't know.

Speaker 1 Some of us might be more privy to behind the scenes shit that they might have went through.

Speaker 1 Adversity. You know what I'm saying? That they might have been through.
I don't know. Just a question.
Yeah. Just a question.
What else we got?

Speaker 1 Big Meech concert. I don't know anything about this.
Me either. There's a Welcome Home Big Meet concert taking place

Speaker 1 in Florida. Sunrise, Florida.
It's on February the 13th, and it is basically like a who's who

Speaker 1 of current hip-hop. Everybody from

Speaker 1 Lil Baby, Ross, Sexy Red, Money Bag, Yo,

Speaker 1 I'm trying to,

Speaker 1 Boss Man, D'Lo.

Speaker 1 It's just a who's who of the current hip-hop scene. Um,

Speaker 1 Welcome Home Show. Notably, missing, which everybody pointed out, Jeezy.
There's no Jeezy on the show, there's no fab on the show.

Speaker 1 I hate when the internet do that,

Speaker 1 but it's there to be pointed out. Yeah, what's all?

Speaker 1 You don't know what's got going on. But what does that mean? You might be booking it.
It don't mean anything. Or it could mean something.
Or they might show up. You have no idea.
The four lineups is

Speaker 1 Lil Baby, Rick Ross, 21 Savage, Sexy Red, Kodak Black, 4-2 Doug, ESTG, Moneybag, Yo, Boss Man D-Lo, T-Grizzly, Babyface Ray, Iceware Vezzo, Skiller Baby, PZ, Payroll, Giovanni,

Speaker 1 Boosie, Young Scooter, and it says more artists to be added. That's a big show.
Well, there's your ad right there. More artists to be added.

Speaker 1 You know, putting this,

Speaker 1 putting this out, you know what putting this out is going to say without certain names on there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even if they are added later on, seeing it right off the bat without certain names attached to it is, hey that looks odd and people are going to point that out it's a promoted event yeah

Speaker 1 that's fly though yeah that's a hell of a come home come home it is

Speaker 1 yeah listen good for him yeah or good fam I hope everybody attends has a blast with no violence I'm not about to make nothing yeah for real no violence I'm not about to make nothing of names that are missing

Speaker 1 Or not yet added, potentially. Yeah.
Yeah, what's wrong with a nigga just not wanting to go? Ain't nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 Again, my nigga, I might have took care of you your whole time. Like, we, again, all this shit be internet, internet.
Yeah. Exactly.
It'd be the internet, internet.

Speaker 1 And, like, you don't know what I did for you the whole time you was locked up. Right.
You, my man, for real. I don't got to go to no show to show you you're my man.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm going, I'm just not performing. Or

Speaker 1 I might not be going. I see nothing.
I'm not doing that. I don't want to be around them crowds.
I'm just not doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because all them people on that list is newer acts.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So I'm not signing up to no festival.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I ain't. That's what it is, low-key, a festival.
Yeah. Big-ass lineup.
You know what I'm saying? So if we got a relationship in real life, nigga, I don't have to come near the show.

Speaker 1 I have the internet. Yeah, that I'm in support of you.
Yeah, not at all. My opinion.

Speaker 1 Agreed. They was tearing five of your ass up for misspelling demonic.

Speaker 1 I swear that was on purpose. Swear it's on purpose.
Why?

Speaker 1 Demonique.

Speaker 1 You just see how he spelt it?

Speaker 1 Was it? Demonique. Demonique.
N-I-Q-U-E. N-I-Q-U-E.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that sounds a little intentional.

Speaker 1 Like, there's more ways you could fuck up demonic. That was AI.
Without going that far. That was AI.

Speaker 1 He fucked up some words. He's clear.
He's clear fucking up some words. He fucked up Miami.
He was talking to the phone, said,

Speaker 1 Dominique.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I'm going to spell him out. I think he's leaning in.
He's leaning into the bullshit.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to laugh too hard because I'm at the age where, you know, I'm forgetting everything that I've ever learned. And certain words be kicking my head.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I was stuck for 40 minutes with aesthetic the other day.

Speaker 1 I was stuck.

Speaker 1 I was sounding it out. I got a hoodie coming out.
I'm going to look up hors d'oeuvres.

Speaker 1 That's a motherfucker. That's a monster.
Hors d'oeuvres.

Speaker 1 I got a hoodie coming out. I couldn't figure it out.
It's my shit. My nigga, I couldn't spell the word to save my life.

Speaker 1 Ish.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Yeah, that's it.
Like, yo, the shit was crazy. What was the word? It's a phone.
It's coming out. You can't tell us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this shit. They was on Lil' Kim's ass, too.
Phones make us dumb, yo. Oh, yeah, they were.
That was funny. That was hilarious, bro.
What Kim do?

Speaker 1 Lil' Kim put a post up saying, She's been sending strong players up for L.A. and everyone affected by the fires.
Please send them away. This is heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 I pray to Jesus that God make it monsoon in L.A.

Speaker 2 God bless her heart.

Speaker 1 Because she really just meant, like, you know, send some rain. I know it.
But, but, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, a monsoon would kind of fuck shit up. It would make it worse.
Mudslide. Well, mudslides, and so it's like, also, a natural disaster.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll be praying for LA again.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Kim, man. It was good intention.
Yeah, your heart was in the right place. Yeah.
That's why. And our prayers are still with everybody out there.
I know that for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 Let's not forget to say that.

Speaker 1 That is true. Yeah, I was in the news recently.

Speaker 1 You called him? Nothing.

Speaker 1 I didn't call anybody. Come on, my patrons.

Speaker 1 I showed the receipts, nigga, you burst out. You called the news.
You started that shit, son. I don't like starting that shit like that, but I'll let you slide.

Speaker 1 Why are you saying I started? Give me a pass, Flip. I let you slide.
You started that shit, yo. I did not start it.
The boss came behind it. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 That's disrespectful using your mouth to put me down, but I got something for y'all.

Speaker 1 I got something for y'all.

Speaker 1 At the right time, I'm going to get both of y'all.

Speaker 1 They don't put it down. Don't use your mouth to put them down.

Speaker 1 Listen, Zhaja got mad at me and said, she made a video. She said, Flip, I I don't fuck with you.
You're not loyal to Stack. I never saw you around.

Speaker 1 She said that the interview that I did with her years ago,

Speaker 1 I only invited her up there to discredit her information on Stack Bundles and Jim.

Speaker 1 And then I wrote a tweet, not a tweet, but I wrote it on her post, and I was apologetic. I'm like, you know, because she said, because of me,

Speaker 1 because of you, Flip, I don't want to ever do interviews again because of niggas like you. And I apologize, and I stand in my apology because her story is

Speaker 1 important to that movement. You know what I mean? What happened? And I don't want to discredit her.
Just my angle at that time was playing the devil's advocate. That's just all my interviews.

Speaker 1 It wasn't intentional to her. Had plenty of arguments with Charleston White,

Speaker 1 with all the drug dealers, Al Poe, King, like all, this is just my style of interviewing. So

Speaker 1 I don't want anyone to feel like

Speaker 1 I don't like to hear that. Yo, because of you, that interview, I don't want to talk to nobody.

Speaker 1 Niggas reached out and showing the receipts, yo, niggas reached out, but I don't want want to talk to nobody because you how you made me feel i kind of felt bad because i don't know if i'm in a new place but i didn't mean to do that shout out to her you know what i'm saying prayers and thoughts and i you know i hope that she'd be able to tell a story without sitting across a nigga like me that will do that and i was your man and stack yeah

Speaker 1 rest in peace stack for sure i mean and and that's bigger you stack i love you my boy because the stories be different right and that's what i learned up here though Like I learned up here that everybody have their own version of the story.

Speaker 1 If I hear something, if I witness something with Jim and Stack, and I know a story, because the story is that Jim left Stack in the hood, not knowing that Stack called Jim for some money and the bank was closed.

Speaker 1 Right? Like, yo, we'll get the money. I was there.
Me and Biden was there. But people don't want to acknowledge that.
It's easier to paint that about Jim. Yo, you left Stack out there.

Speaker 1 No, Stack wanted to stay out there because Stack has his own movement, just like a Queen's Foot. Some niggas are just in their own bag.
And if I need something, I can call my man. He calls his man.

Speaker 1 Yo, the bank is closed right now. Geez, I'm going to get it to you.
It just so happened my man got killed.

Speaker 1 The next day. You know what I'm saying? So people take these stories and they mix it up.
So when Zaja was telling the story, I I wasn't discrediting her.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, yo, this is what I've been through. And by being up here, I learned that, yo, her truth is her truth.

Speaker 1 And at that time, it wasn't intentional. I was just being a devil's advocate, and that's it.
So, shout out to her. I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 1 I support it.

Speaker 1 Still laughing a little bit, though. It's adultive.

Speaker 1 This nigga selfie health. Yeah, I made the news recently.
Like, oh shit, what happened? Yeah, Xiaja, I tweeted.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm mad at this story. What news element did that? That's not quite.
That's adults.

Speaker 1 Yo, if you happen to hear that story in the New York Post or the Daily News on page six, please take Queen Flip's organic word up here.

Speaker 1 Hey, let me ask you a question. You let your mans get away with all that.

Speaker 1 You let these two niggas get away with all that TMZ called TMZ.

Speaker 1 You let these niggas get away with all that called TMZ. Flip, I was on your side.
And on top of that, because you thought I shouldn't have, these two niggas. I was on your side.

Speaker 1 And you thought I shouldn't have did it, right?

Speaker 1 You ain't come out and defend like, nah, Flip wouldn't do that. You know that, Joe.
I called TMZ on myself. You know me, man.
I was like,

Speaker 1 I said I disagreed with the streets. You wrote a tweet, nigga.

Speaker 1 Everybody bigging me up. You and your white counterpart put a tweet out to discredit me.
I said the streets said this, and I said that they were lying. That's nasty.

Speaker 1 Would it affect our friendship if I maybe did think that you would call TMZ on yourself?

Speaker 1 Joe. I'm saying I don't love you no less.
Joe, what? I'm not saying I think that, but would our relationship with you. In your mind, you say, why would they go to Queens Flipping not a Melissa Ford?

Speaker 1 No, I never said that. Meaning like somebody of

Speaker 1 you, man. I'm talking about.
Like, you're more, you know. I ain't put on you.
Give me a comment, girl. Got it.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Holy shit, man.

Speaker 1 Don't touch me.

Speaker 1 Nah, I'm like, you touch me.

Speaker 1 Yo, why you did that, though? Why you put that news out? You did that? You behind that? I'm not behind it. I promise you.
Yeah, I go get, yo. I'm not behind it.
Okay. I had your back.

Speaker 1 I'm just for the record. I always got your back.
No, that's just nasty. I saw you.
You showed. Did you show? You didn't call?

Speaker 1 I read your tweet. Like, wait, what?

Speaker 1 My bad.

Speaker 1 If you saw that.

Speaker 1 Is there anything else that is pressing on our minds, bodies, and souls, our spirits? Is there anything that's super important to get out there? I started land, man. That shit is absolutely fire.

Speaker 1 Is it? I don't have a take because I'm still early.

Speaker 1 I'm doing Toasta King. I like

Speaker 1 it Tulsa King is fire. Season one or two.
I'm up two now. Almost on two.
That shit is pretty short. You can kind of run it.
It's quick. Yeah, like 30 minutes.
You see Severance season? Saving it.

Speaker 1 Got it. I'm watching it tonight.
I'm going to re-watch it, actually. They never going to get me with the episodic drops, watching one episode.
No, no, no, no. I'm storing them up.

Speaker 1 I like the episodic a little bit. Me too.

Speaker 1 When it's something that I'm anticipating seeing. Otherwise, I could wait and just catch a couple of them.
If I have something that has my intention, then I could win. And Landman,

Speaker 1 Landman has me. Did you watch the joint I sent you? No.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 1 It was a Hulu series. It's called Scam Queens or something like that.

Speaker 2 Oh, I just saw the ad for that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I'm like, you just saw the question for that. I mean,

Speaker 1 right? You just got.

Speaker 1 Hey, I am Melissa Ford and I scammed my team out of 700. I got the white titty.
Just got the white titty cake. And pulling it off, that's a black adult.

Speaker 1 That was an ill scam. I ain't going to lie.
This is crazy. Yo, we really sit down amongst ourselves and talk about that.
Like, how you pulled that shit off. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 You guys are going to have to let this go. It's 2022.

Speaker 1 You niggas make money.

Speaker 1 Yo, what episode drawing in Lambeth? Four.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to thug through one, yo.
I'm going to thug. One, I fell asleep on one like three or four times.

Speaker 1 And I think that is so disrespectful to Landman. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm going to thug my one. Episode one, I feel like they get to so many storylines popping, especially between one and two.
But just try.

Speaker 1 Not him. I'm going to force myself.
You might fall asleep because it ain't so action. Yeah, it's a lot of dialogue and understanding, all of that.
Cut the closed captions on.

Speaker 1 I'll get through it. You heard? Cut the closed captions on.
Because, like, shit like that. Hey, closed captions.
When the shit I'm watching start talking in Spanish, I don't need you to say Spanish

Speaker 1 in Spanish.

Speaker 1 No, that wasn't. No, tell me.
What the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hate that.

Speaker 1 Y'all ain't gonna hold you. I love having a bilingual queen next to me.
What they say.

Speaker 1 Well, you've already proven to me and Corey that that shit has its perks.

Speaker 1 Sir, it does. That shit has its perks.
Listen, and when I was watching Dennett Thieves 2 and The Coming Attractions, let me be phony real quick. Hey, the resident spot ain't about shit.

Speaker 1 Let me be phony real quick.

Speaker 1 I know I've had a lot to say about John Wick.

Speaker 1 Just a new John Wick, I mean? Jesus knows.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie to you.

Speaker 1 The ballerina spin-off looks great. Wait, really?

Speaker 1 Or at least I'll say that ballerina trailer. You got to watch it.
Yes, I'm watching it. They got you.
They got you. I'm watching it.
They showed about three or four movies that I do want to see.

Speaker 1 The Russian lady. And ballerina is one of them.
And she is the protege or the, this is the next,

Speaker 1 the next, she's girl John Wick.

Speaker 1 And she's in there kicking ass. Jeanetta.

Speaker 1 I'm not the biggest John Wick guy, so I like it. Me neither.
Oh, okay. Me neither.
Yeah, I'm good. I think I saw the first one.
That's about it.

Speaker 1 But if I'm going to watch an action flick, I want to watch it from a movie company that is going to pay to put action in it. For sure.
And they spend a whole bunch of action.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to spend on that. He kills about 1,400 niggas per movie.
It's per scene. Headshot is doing it.
Per scene.

Speaker 1 He don't run out of bullets. That nigga cutting is different.
I was flicking through the channels in Rush Hour 2, I think, whatever it was with Chris Rock and Jack. I watched that shit though.

Speaker 1 I watched it on the show. Chris Tucker.

Speaker 1 Another one that you just shouldn't watch with adult eyes and ears. It's another one that we should just leave wherever the fuck it was.

Speaker 1 That movie, boy. Part two is the one where they went to China.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's the one with Rosalind Sanchez.

Speaker 1 Them niggas are saying that. I watch it as They're not making another rush hour, bro.
Sit down.

Speaker 1 But I watched it too. They was getting a lot of shit off.
They're going to take you to Bangkok.

Speaker 1 That little fight scene between

Speaker 1 that shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, Joe, you know what's so crazy? He might be the horny one.

Speaker 1 It's just said, What do you think? Give me the Bangkok, Joe. He made a Bangkok, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo. Yeah, I got you do the horny one.
I ain't gonna hold you. I'm far from original.
Nah, nah, you up. He never won them.
I'm pine, nigga.

Speaker 1 Anyway, that's funny, yo. We could talk about this.
No, that shit is juvenile. It's some juvenile bullshit.
It is. In film shit, rest in peace, David Lynch.
Brilliant director. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 We could talk about this on paper. You guys weren't the biggest David Lynch fans.
I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 1 Recipes, recipe. Rest in peace.
Safety for the Broncos. Blue Velvet.
Elephant Man. Weird shit.
Cross Highway. Weird shit.
Yeah, really weird shit. Rest in peace.
Yeah, rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Before we get out of here, though. Speaking of rest in peace,

Speaker 1 did y'all hear about the dude that um pulled up to the bikini coffee shop joint, got caught, and then

Speaker 2 well, first week, I don't think anybody knew about the bikini coffee.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so apparently, there's a there's a coffee coffee spot

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 the women that serve are in bikinis. What is that?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like in Landman,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 A little bit, okay, anyways. So

Speaker 1 the young lady posted a video. The guy pulls up in a car, and she's like, uh-uh.
Like, Like, he ain't had no pants on. He was

Speaker 1 getting money.

Speaker 1 He was getting money while he pulled up to the window.

Speaker 1 He pulled off real fast. It was actually a couple of cars that they did this to.

Speaker 1 And the video got to circulating. So out of embarrassment, the next day, the dude self-transitioned.

Speaker 1 Whoa. This one I kind of have been confused about.

Speaker 1 I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that there was a lot more going on in his life. It sounds like it.
I would hope so.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 the act of masturbating at the local Hooters or whatever the fuck that is and getting caught and taking your own life when you're married with child,

Speaker 1 I'm befuddled.

Speaker 1 I'm not. I'm not.
Not today.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing we say about internet bullying. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, it's different. Well, shit used to happen when we was in school.
You know, the little neighborhoods

Speaker 1 were something. It'll go local.
Yeah, he's right.

Speaker 1 Today, something happens the whole world knows instantly. So to dude,

Speaker 1 that video getting out there. Meant what?

Speaker 1 Your wife and you. Worldwide humiliation for you and your entire family.
Some people out there that got a video of me sleepwalking butt-ass naked in the hallway.

Speaker 1 Not to compare. Joe, but you are you.
No, you are you. You come from a different era, too.
Yeah. Somebody else is different.
I think as fathers, we have a responsibility

Speaker 1 and an obligation

Speaker 1 for our behavior to not do anything that would put us in a predicament to make us want to remove ourselves from our child. Like, now I'm talking about

Speaker 1 a predicament. I'm not talking about mental health.
That's why I said I'm going to assume and give him the benefit of the doubt. And I said, I hope so.
But if it's just...

Speaker 1 this isolated act and it was the embarrassment, then my man, come on. Dog, a lot of people can't deal with that shit bro humiliation

Speaker 1 jail for being humiliated in public and they went and got a gun and did something to somebody that embarrassed them and now they doing life doing it to you and doing it to myself i don't view the same uh

Speaker 1 there's a lot of people in this your life is gone i mean one your life might be spent behind bars and another one your life is gone but it's a privilege to wake up even behind bars true tell your kids that tell your family that because

Speaker 1 and they have to no i'm just saying but you use that as the catalyst Like, yo, if you have a wife and you have kids and you allow that thing that you are saying is small, I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 It's not worth you taking your life. I'm not saying it's small.
It's small within regards to you taking your life.

Speaker 1 I think if that's an isolated act. Yeah, true.
I'm agreeing with you. I'm just playing.
We having a conversation.

Speaker 1 So what I'm saying is nowadays with the viral moments and all of that shit, my nigga, you could be a meme from now to eternity. Niggas can't handle that.
Playing with your dick over some Tim Hortons.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody not prepared to deal with that level of public embarrassment and scrutiny. Not just that.
Now your kids is getting picked on. Your wife, co-workers see it.

Speaker 1 Your wife's family members see her husband. Now, you can't never go to the cookout and get looked at the same when your sausage has been on TV.

Speaker 2 What did he think was going to be the outcome, though?

Speaker 1 I don't think he thought that somebody was going to put him on TV.

Speaker 1 Niggas just pull up, get his shit off, and what's going on. You're a little freak booty horny nigga.

Speaker 1 You're going to jerk off to the ladies with the bikinis on but you never thinking it's gonna go viral well one in new jersey not that because we getting serious i'm gonna be ignorant now me too i said sausage y'all miss my joke you know cookout sausage

Speaker 1 all you trying to

Speaker 1 a little pun in new jersey big punch in new jersey at hooters they stopped hiring the hoes with hooters

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 so it made it tough. Yeah, and ass.
It made it tougher for you to go over there and hit your one-two right quick. I ain't stopped hiring them.

Speaker 2 What happened then?

Speaker 1 The strip clubs got him because it was more bread. Fuck you talking about.
I ain't giving out no wings.

Speaker 1 And two, to whoever out there needs to hear this, ask somebody that's beat off in my car a few times.

Speaker 1 You got to drive to the far end of the parking lot where you are alone. And you got to face the...

Speaker 1 For me, it was the multiplex. Yeah, don't back in.
Don't back in. For me, it was the multiplex when I'm at the movie.
Yeah, come on, I'm at the movie theater early.

Speaker 1 Got to go back there. Got to go back there.

Speaker 1 All the way to the movie.

Speaker 1 Yo, dog.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question. Oh, yeah, a little beat off in the movie.
Let me ask you a question. What's up, man? What you was beating off to?

Speaker 1 Something on my phone. Yeah, nigga.

Speaker 1 I had to do it. Oh, y'all different.
No, I had to do it. I did that shit on the highway.
You never beat off in the car? No. Well, you stand up and beat off.
You can't stand up in a car.

Speaker 1 You never beat off in the sprinter?

Speaker 1 I lay down and beat off too. You got to beat off in the U-Haul or something? Yo, dogs.
Sometimes you got to let it out, ish. Something come.
My nigga.

Speaker 1 So when was when the multiplex was open, because this is a long time ago. Yeah.
You lived around the car.

Speaker 1 Go home. The movie starts in five minutes, ten minutes, 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 I ain't got the time, nigga. You gotta get this out.
Yo, ish.

Speaker 1 I've lived a life.

Speaker 1 You ain't never beat off in the car ever? Ever. Vanilla ass nigga.
I've lived the life.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk about it, but I'm just giving advice to the people out there that want to beat off in the car.

Speaker 1 You can't do it at the where they fucking shaking ass and wearing the skirts on the roller skates and pulling up. You can't do that.
You can't do that shit at Sonics, nigga. Yeah, you can't do it.

Speaker 1 Sonics, that's what I was thinking about. You can't do that.
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 You got to beat off over there.

Speaker 1 You got to watch. Yeah, you got to be isolated.
No, but when it starts getting good, you ain't checking the mirror.

Speaker 1 Yo, fix yourself, bro.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 I just talk about that. And this nigga ain't no pants on.
See, that's the problem, too. It's a freaky picture.
When you beat him off in the car, you just got to scoot them down.

Speaker 1 You can't be pantsless. He's right.
You got to scoot. I'm listening to y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 Hey, the car seat, that leather seat, get cold. But get your shit off, pull them up.

Speaker 1 Be on point.

Speaker 1 Be on point and go on about your business. I don't know who needs to hear all of that, but money pulled up with no pants on.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas is free. That baby wife.

Speaker 1 Give him a jerk off 101. No, I'm done.
I'm done.

Speaker 1 Listen, if people are going to take their lives behind this, then we can speak to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it. Rest in peace.
The home voice.

Speaker 1 I'm praying for his family. Prayers for his family.

Speaker 1 His mom's came out. She's actually

Speaker 1 trying, she's blaming the girl that recorded it.

Speaker 1 I disagree with that. I disagree too.
I disagree as well.

Speaker 1 She just wanted, because he was going around, they was getting cold. But she wasn't the girl.
She was the manager of the spot.

Speaker 1 And your son might have traumatized this girl by jumping off in front of her.

Speaker 1 But if it's just a girl, then maybe you make a case of somebody just coming up to you and taking you, oh my God, who's this girl?

Speaker 1 She's the manager of this place, and she sees a car out here suspicious. It's my job to walk over there.
Hey, dog, did you order something? Can I help you? Why? Oh, shit. You're getting your shit off.

Speaker 1 No, that's not. They've been getting calls of this car.
Of people doing that. Going around, doing it.
They got a call. So that's why she said, you've been there before? Yeah.
And then she got him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You've been going around doing this and now we got you. My nigga, who's just driving around with no pants on?

Speaker 1 That's me.

Speaker 1 Not I. Nigga had the mustache.
What kind of car he had, too? A Mustang? It was a Mustang? Yo, what kind of car was it? A little leather? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I wasn't pocket watching him. That matters.
Nah,

Speaker 1 it wasn't Chunk. Was it a Charger?

Speaker 1 I thought it was a

Speaker 1 Challenger or a Camaro, one of them. It looked like one of them.
Y'all better get 42 Doug as Hellcat back. Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, yo, my nigga,

Speaker 1 if I get a Ferrari like you,

Speaker 1 I might be riding around in some boxes, yo. I ain't gonna hold you.
Do you have tents or you just gonna hit? Yo, I might be riding around in some boxes. Tents or flips.
Yeah, fish bowling.

Speaker 1 Are you fish bowling? Are you fish bowling?

Speaker 1 Yo. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Are you fishbowling? I'm just saying. Who's fish bowling? What's that? No tents.
No tents. No tents.
Of course. I ain't buying no tents, nigga.
So if you jerk off, then you're going to look at it.

Speaker 1 I'm not jerking off in my car.

Speaker 1 But when she gets in the car,

Speaker 1 you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I'm starting to think about it.

Speaker 1 You might come through the little boxer hole by mistake on purpose. He's a freak.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You're right. No, hold on.

Speaker 1 Ice he nasty, son. Yeah, this nigga's nasty.
I think you do that other shit.

Speaker 1 We got really good sleepers lined up for y'all.

Speaker 1 Oh, chip, before we get to sleepers, I have one question for Ish. It's my only question.
I'm not arguing. I'm not beefing.
Shoot.

Speaker 1 When the pandemic and shit was going on, you didn't get a PPP loan

Speaker 1 for a different company.

Speaker 1 You couldn't get PP loans for real estate.

Speaker 1 But you did get a PPP loan. I did.

Speaker 1 Okay. But you couldn't get PP loans as landlords for real estate purposes.
PP loans.

Speaker 1 I read something that said, yo, I got some little landlord kickback. I wanted to come in here and read it to you.
I won't because you're a landlord. Yeah.
Well, I'm a landlord.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've been getting these shits all

Speaker 1 the overwhelming majority, because they've been going crazy on Twitter. The overwhelming majority is, yo, you're right.
And then other people that challenged me behind closed doors,

Speaker 1 I tapped them out and they said, yo, you're right. I stand.
The biggest points of contention I saw with your argument was

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 that money that you was talking about, that additional six wasn't the entire year. That was not for the entire year one.

Speaker 1 The second was that the... Yeah, they dropped it to $400 in

Speaker 1 some places and $300 and otherwise. The Jersey stopped in July of that year.
And then they kicked it to 300 instead of 6.

Speaker 1 They brought up the median income in New Jersey, which was high. That was the real beef of what you were saying,

Speaker 1 what I saw people say. You were making it sound like there was this overwhelming group that were paid more than what they were making during the time.

Speaker 1 And they were saying you should isolate the median income in New Jersey, which is higher. So these people were struggling, yada, yada, yada.
I don't bother.

Speaker 1 I don't care to get it back into the business. Yeah, yeah, no, no.
But again, I was

Speaker 1 speaking.

Speaker 1 I was speaking generally. So when you speak generally,

Speaker 1 people in New York make more money than people in Ohio. You understand what I'm saying? But overall, nationally, landlords were affected.

Speaker 1 So I didn't want to say, yo, in New Jersey, yeah, we have a higher cost and standard of living, but that also means that landlords have higher mortgages, right? And

Speaker 1 so the landlord's cost of living is high, too.

Speaker 1 When eggs got high, nigga, eggs was high, they high for the landlord, too. They still are.
They still are. You're right.
When gas is high.

Speaker 1 Hop just pulled me to the side and said, Joey, I told your mother the eggs I buy cost $18.17. I buy the

Speaker 1 dual, the 12 and 12.

Speaker 1 And it's a class of A. She don't fuck that.
It's a different level of edge.

Speaker 1 That fucking time. Lose that time shit, nigga.

Speaker 1 You got to get old enough to have the tough talks with your parents. Depending on how we signed up for it, they just put the click-to-cancel shit into effect finally.

Speaker 1 Meaning, like, people that sign up for gyms, Planet Fitness, all that type of shit. You know, it was hard to get out of it.
Now it's federally mandated. However you sign up, like...

Speaker 1 anything you can just click a button that's fantastic oh that's fire yeah because they was holding niggas the memberships Like, that's crazy. You got to call a number and do some fucking shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, nigga.

Speaker 1 Niggas would be like, nah, well, what had happened was you ain't read that far and cut at the bottom. Sorry, y'all.

Speaker 1 My DJ skills. Shit, get the fucked up out here.
Yeah. No, you're getting better at it.
I'm trying. You getting better? Hey, y'all can see

Speaker 1 the glasses, nigga. I ain't been listening to nothing new.

Speaker 1 So I do not have a new sleeper. Again, shout out to Teddy Swims.
I think I played that record last week. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 So I'm going throwback. I'm going with one of my favorite groups of all time.

Speaker 1 This is high five, and this is unconditional love.

Speaker 1 I will climb the highest speed. Swim the down.
Hold up, Mm-ML. You don't know this song.

Speaker 2 I do know this song.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't know. What you were doing when this song was out?

Speaker 1 What year was this?

Speaker 1 94? 94, maybe? Yeah. 94.
If I was 14, you was 17, 18. You was fucking.
Definitely.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I moved him in the house.

Speaker 1 You told us you never gave that nigga no coochie. Wait, what? You be lying.
No!

Speaker 1 That's a lie.

Speaker 1 Yes, you did. Oh, man.
Yo, you don't even remember your lies. Beyond the next liar, you are.

Speaker 1 Hold on, you are the Rocky of liars. Who are we talking about? It's on Big Mail, yo.

Speaker 1 You told us you did not lose your virginity to that nigga that y'all moved in the crib.

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 2 I'd already lost my virginity.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk about that. You told us that.

Speaker 1 Well, you are special.

Speaker 1 I will do anything

Speaker 1 for your love.

Speaker 1 That nigga right there, that the lead nigga nigga.

Speaker 1 If the motherfucker was over the middle,

Speaker 1 yo, that nigga right here, I don't know who that nigga is.

Speaker 1 Some people say that I'm just

Speaker 1 an old-fashioned guy.

Speaker 1 But I believe in love

Speaker 1 and all that it means.

Speaker 1 I can never say no

Speaker 1 to anything that you ask.

Speaker 1 And I really hope that you

Speaker 1 would do the same for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How far will you go?

Speaker 1 In honesty,

Speaker 1 and that's the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 Unconditional love.

Speaker 1 How far will you go, girl?

Speaker 1 Time, time.

Speaker 1 Sanger, by

Speaker 1 you or die.

Speaker 1 I'm emotional

Speaker 1 love.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 Girl, I'm head over heels in love with you.

Speaker 1 And I need to know

Speaker 1 what it means to you.

Speaker 1 With all this madness going round,

Speaker 1 I really think it's time that we settle down.

Speaker 1 Be my only girl,

Speaker 1 and I'll be your only man.

Speaker 1 Tell me your

Speaker 1 cause

Speaker 1 in honesty.

Speaker 1 And that's the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 Unconditional love.

Speaker 1 Tell me how far we'll go, girl.

Speaker 1 One time.

Speaker 1 Sacrifice

Speaker 1 you or die.

Speaker 1 I can't unconditional love.

Speaker 1 I won't be there but you, baby.

Speaker 1 In

Speaker 1 And that's no way it's a fool of me.

Speaker 1 Union that you know,

Speaker 1 gonna be right there for you.

Speaker 1 Time

Speaker 1 sacrifice

Speaker 1 you are God.

Speaker 1 I need an option that you know

Speaker 1 how far will you go.

Speaker 1 The highest peak from the deepest sea. I would cross the damn love land.

Speaker 1 I would anything

Speaker 1 for your love.

Speaker 1 Would you do the same for me?

Speaker 1 Girl, more than ever. You know I love you so much.

Speaker 1 I never want you to leave me.

Speaker 1 I missed this part of the song for the 90s. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I tried to do that on a couple SLP songs.

Speaker 1 Fucking Amani stole my vocals, man.

Speaker 1 That's dead, man.

Speaker 1 Heaven's up on ball.

Speaker 1 Trust, trust, honesty, honesty.

Speaker 1 You and me,

Speaker 1 baby.

Speaker 1 Undision of love, girl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 My, my, my, my, my, baby.

Speaker 1 Trust, trust, honesty, honesty.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 That's brand new, very, very, very old music. That is high five.
And that record is called Unconditional Love.

Speaker 1 Love those guys, man. Rest in peace, Tony Thompson.
Hey, rest in peace. I'm going to Houston on this one.
And watch that high five dock if you haven't seen it. I don't know where it's at.

Speaker 1 Is that a dock?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was, it was, yeah, it was tough. It's on YouTube.
If you can't find it, it's on YouTube. Them niggas had a hard time.
Like the different strokes casts of RB groups. But anyway.

Speaker 1 No? Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, don't do that.
Ice man, you've been. We owe like a little square off, man.

Speaker 1 Take this shit off, man.

Speaker 1 I'm going to Houston on this one. The record is called Turn Me Up, and it's by Libra Jolie.
Let's go, Libra.

Speaker 1 She's fine. She smoked this.

Speaker 1 Turn me up. Hoe can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me.

Speaker 1 That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me, you could like me.

Speaker 1 They hoe be stocking all that shit. They wish they could.
Her the hoe been looking for me, I might in the wish a bitch would. Turn me up, tell a hoe come out and play.
You know I let shit down.

Speaker 1 Hey, she mad about one of these niggas, but he my favorite now. He call me baby now.
And shit, we just met. You really wasting breath, no no shade, but this nigga just love.

Speaker 1 I ain't popping my shit on the whack hoe in a minute. I swear to God, I ain't going back and forth with a hoe.
This ain't no tenant. I swear to God, he hoe be lookin' for cloudy in my mention.

Speaker 1 I swear to God, a hoe really fuck my beat, he catchin' feelin'.

Speaker 1 You fucking man's, huh? Ain't got no business, huh? That lil' bitch fan died. I think she playin' now.
You can't be that dumb. All the niggas in the world with money, and you fuck that one.

Speaker 1 Tell me up,

Speaker 1 can't fuck like me, can't cut like me, can't look like me.

Speaker 1 That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me. Wish you could like me.

Speaker 1 Ain't hoe be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could. Hurt up, hope it lookin' for me.
I'm out in the wish, a bitch would. Turn me up.

Speaker 1 Hoe can't fuck like me, can't cush like me, can't look like me.

Speaker 1 That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me. Wish you could like me.

Speaker 1 Ain't hoe be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could. Hurt up, hope it lookin' for me.
I'm out in the wish, a bitch would. Fuck all that talkin', I'm tweeting.
And you know I'ma crash your demon.

Speaker 1 Bitch, you gon' die behind that dick. I'm clicking loud, I mean it.
Running her mouth, she teasin'. Bitch, mad, ain't got no reason.
Like a holiday, it's my season. Man, these hoes got me fucked up.

Speaker 1 I'm in that big body truck. Find shit, better get your money up.
D-Hoe be talking about coin 50-50 with a nigga for a nut. Bitch, I wish I would.
I can never be the hoes, you fuckin'.

Speaker 1 How you got your pussy up to a bitch, nigga, still left with nothing.

Speaker 1 Turn me up, hoe can't fuck like me, can't cut like me, can't look like me.

Speaker 1 That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me, she could like me. Then hoe be talking all that shit, they wish they could.
Her to hoe be looking for me, I'm out in the wishin' bitch would.

Speaker 1 Turn me up. Hoe can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me.

Speaker 1 That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me, you could like me.

Speaker 1 Turn me up.

Speaker 1 Turn me up.

Speaker 1 Turn me up.

Speaker 1 That's for your records.

Speaker 1 And that's the best.

Speaker 1 The nigga go cash at me and say, I have no idea why. Why would you write to just send me the bread?

Speaker 1 Why you did that for your records? I know. That little note shit is important to niggas with bad memories.
All right, swimming classes.

Speaker 1 And again, that record was Turn Me Up by Libra Jolie. That record was hard.
What's her name?

Speaker 1 Libra Jolie. She sounds good.
She's from Chicago? No, she's Houston. I played a couple of records with her before.
She's hard. Oh, I apologize.

Speaker 1 I wasn't familiar with your game.

Speaker 1 That was hard.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play some Buster Rides, man. He put out a new new EP today.
This is Letter to My Children.

Speaker 1 Let me bust a punch a nigga on a rollout.

Speaker 1 You gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up when I'm talking, bitch. You know the rule.
Rock up rappers way down to the finest molecule. What these rappers know about spitting on these slaps, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Niggas are tempered, but they shit be selling whack, my nigga. They rap like two trains collided on a track, my nigga.
Blaming credit for the shit we father, trying to adapt me, nigga.

Speaker 1 The original fashion forward advocate. Dredd up in hairstyles that niggas would never think of.
Think of. Buying it so much shit, it be making your bitch bug.

Speaker 1 I'm finally in a place in my life where I'm the happiest. Bars full of punishment when I spit, bitch, I'm the nastiest.
I'm a different type of creature. Request collabs and hit a bars.

Speaker 1 They start running far from the feature.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank your moms for the life she gave. Beat you with punchlines that hurt.
Now you asking your moms to save ya. I'm your daddy when it came came to these raps, I'm the one that raised ya.

Speaker 1 The real child at birth, now you begging for me to change ya. So I nurture all of my children so they don't see me as a stranger.

Speaker 1 I teach them how to eat you niggas food and be the danger. I think you niggas need to move from around me to believe it's safer.
How I negotiate with promoters, nigga, give me my paper.

Speaker 1 Look, could give a fuck what niggas come from. I continuously run towards what most you niggas run from.
Most these niggas scared to rap with me. Now what's the purse bet?

Speaker 1 Better rethink all your favorites and why get me your verses yet. Versus yet.
I'm still waiting, I'm still waiting from the high you on, from the per cassette.

Speaker 1 Well, I continue giving niggas beans in your squad hurts. I give you spankings, bitch, don't ever question how a law works.
I jump in the souls of the people and give them large spurts.

Speaker 1 When I'm fighting demons, I be still making your mom squirt. Squirt, you rap niggas, I ain't here to pacifier.
But while your father's present, I might pass the pacifier.

Speaker 1 You don't want the smoke, so I'll wipe past the fire. And end up being the one left as another ass for hire.

Speaker 1 Another nigga lost with all the confused symptoms. Let me guide you to the destination as your navigation system.
Your equilibrium fucked up. Let me send to y'all.

Speaker 1 Big homie here, let me try to mentor y'all.

Speaker 1 Scientists, when it comes to the culture, let them refill the baskets with rose petals. Whenever I enter y'all,

Speaker 1 shit, that's what I'm talking about. They see greatness in bust of U-turn and they start walking out.
Employees working hard as hell, learn what I'm boss about.

Speaker 1 Fascination with sanitation, I love to toss them out.

Speaker 1 My aspiration is to force a route and eliminate any possibility to source a doubt. Feed you sickness that swell your foot up like it done caught a gout.

Speaker 1 Throw this money and bag your bitches, cause a coochie drought.

Speaker 1 I'm nice with both hands, how I manage. Lay up with my left and right like I'm making a sandwich.
My frequency is powerful, niggas should check the bandwidth.

Speaker 1 While I fuck you niggas up and continue taking advantage.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Dragon Season. Dragon Season.
Where we boss Buster Rob, slaughter my children.

Speaker 1 It's nice to hear Buster sounding like Buster again.

Speaker 1 That is double tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 What you got, Ish? I'm going to

Speaker 1 Horace Brown featuring Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 Now you kind of sparked my little, you know what I mean, bag.

Speaker 1 No, you did the

Speaker 1 high five.

Speaker 1 So I was going to play Shy. I was going to play some, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Oh, so his sleeper inspired your sleeper, is what you're saying. Today, got it, today.
Today, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was gonna do changing faces. Got it.
I mean, I was going, yeah, but I'm gonna just go hole brown. Feature Jay.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 How we do, uh-huh, uh-huh. Big Lou, ha.

Speaker 1 Just the things we do. Haha.

Speaker 1 Didn't win,

Speaker 1 girls and things, trips in December.

Speaker 1 Things we do for love.

Speaker 1 Fancy cars,

Speaker 1 credit cards. Do you remember

Speaker 1 things we do for

Speaker 1 romantic places in my mind?

Speaker 1 Hoping someday I would find the perfect one

Speaker 1 and I could share.

Speaker 1 Then that day you walked inside, and no longer could I hide my love.

Speaker 1 I had to take you there.

Speaker 1 Sailing on a cruise at night,

Speaker 1 sailing on a cruise at night.

Speaker 1 Into the ocean under the moon.

Speaker 1 Can you

Speaker 1 paradise

Speaker 1 paradise, baby?

Speaker 1 Thousands of things you see simple.

Speaker 1 Things we

Speaker 1 fall,

Speaker 1 things we do for love.

Speaker 1 You've been blessed.

Speaker 1 Show with you with gifts of love.

Speaker 1 But it was never enough

Speaker 1 to bring you closer to me.

Speaker 1 Tripping money was no thing. The simple pleasure that you bring.
My wind takes me back to the days we were. Sailing on a cruise at night.

Speaker 1 Sailing on a cruise at night.

Speaker 1 With the moon and light. Taking you to paradise.

Speaker 1 Taking you to paradise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Fancy cars, grandma cars.

Speaker 1 Crazy good for love.

Speaker 1 Keep shorty dip like grown daughters. We ain't home as trips to Nevada.
Push your chips on six, I roll tray twice. People way in the back, hoping they're crappin'.
They don't even play dice.

Speaker 1 Me and old girl against the whole world. Under the lights, ice looking blue.
Mother of pearls, just the things we do, baby. Dime in your wrist, one of the many reasons that I rhyme like this.

Speaker 1 Spend plenty, pushin' 320. Drop, cold chains, ice around a penny.
Hot, envy, yeah, sip penny. Stop, baby, cop the benz 3D.
Backed it out the lot, made a whole crew sick.

Speaker 1 Jetted round the way, playing playing whole brown new shit. Mo town, 3G, CDs, Berccati, Jay-Z, baby, see you at the platinum party.

Speaker 1 Friends and cards,

Speaker 1 brand new cars. Do you remember

Speaker 1 things we do for love?

Speaker 1 Brandon dreams,

Speaker 1 girls and wings, trips and dissembled.

Speaker 1 Things we do for love, love

Speaker 1 fancy cars,

Speaker 1 grand cars. Do you remember

Speaker 1 things we could call love?

Speaker 1 That's things we do for love, Horace Brown and Jay-Z. That's the Eddie F remix.

Speaker 2 The time was hat.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 2 All right, well, since we're, I'm just gonna keep the rhythm going with old school shit.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 This is um

Speaker 1 I pick

Speaker 1 troop.

Speaker 2 I will always love you.

Speaker 1 That's what

Speaker 1 nah I'd hit them niggas with the uh

Speaker 1 spread my wings though. Spread my wings.

Speaker 1 Day and night, all my mind, and every waking moment. I try to figure out a pathway back to you.

Speaker 1 Break it down and give me all my pieces.

Speaker 1 Show me all the kingdom you need.

Speaker 1 I will make your special wish come true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When things go on, you need someone to help you see them through.

Speaker 1 How will you

Speaker 1 know it's well

Speaker 1 done? I need someone to stand beside you. I'll hold you, hold you, baby.

Speaker 1 I will be the very best.

Speaker 1 I will

Speaker 1 always

Speaker 1 love you.

Speaker 1 I didn't need to spread my wings, though.

Speaker 1 You will find the reason to keep trying.

Speaker 1 Baby, let me take

Speaker 1 you to you.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna let you show.

Speaker 1 Let me show

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 I love you.

Speaker 1 On with

Speaker 1 who

Speaker 1 I love you.

Speaker 1 Hold you.

Speaker 1 Hold you, baby. Tonight

Speaker 1 with this

Speaker 1 ring.

Speaker 1 I will be moving.

Speaker 1 I will be the vision.

Speaker 1 Take my body for your leisure.

Speaker 1 This will be the night I treasure. Forever is my memory of you.

Speaker 1 Close your eyes and make me wish you.

Speaker 1 Take my hand and realize this time I'll be the very best for you.

Speaker 1 When things go wrong, you need someone to help you see them through.

Speaker 1 I will know

Speaker 1 how to die in the nighttime when you know that I will

Speaker 1 hold you.

Speaker 1 I will be the very best.

Speaker 1 I will be alone.

Speaker 1 It's off the air.

Speaker 1 I don't even know the BPLs.

Speaker 1 I want my people.

Speaker 1 I know what you love.

Speaker 1 With this

Speaker 1 weight,

Speaker 1 I fly with right now, yeah.

Speaker 1 You

Speaker 1 love

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 She's

Speaker 1 Three glasses of Merlot.

Speaker 1 That nigga started rubbing on your leg on the West Side Highway about

Speaker 1 three.

Speaker 1 Water. Some seltzer? Nah, my girl Melon.
Water.

Speaker 1 That nigga said some self.

Speaker 1 I said water. Any beverage.

Speaker 1 Are you thirsty?

Speaker 1 That shit falling off the bone.

Speaker 1 Since that Chicago nigga came out with his nails. Oh, my God.
Since Facebook guy act, that shit is ready to go. Y'all can't believe it.
What? You fell for that Facebook business.

Speaker 1 Then she went to Chicago after that.

Speaker 1 Big pal.

Speaker 1 Posted no pictures. I told y'all, 2025, we out of Mel's pussy business.
Don't do that. What? You hating on my man.

Speaker 1 What man? Oh, nigga, that Facebook guy? Yeah. Yeah, his Facebook guy hacks already.
I told y'all, we mind and Mel's pussy. I mean, we not minding Mel's pussy at all.
At all.

Speaker 1 Not in 2025, but we hear from the music.

Speaker 1 You around, you, you know, so you be sleeping on you around. Like, you around niggas that get information when you ain't trying to give it.
So when

Speaker 1 you play a little slow jam like that, real niggas could tell, oh,

Speaker 1 uh-oh.

Speaker 1 A little shot. I was going to hit that with that shot.
Hey, she ain't quite ready to go home after the meal.

Speaker 1 Huh? So what you doing there? She ain't ready to hit home after the dinner.

Speaker 1 Like, what you doing?

Speaker 1 I was gonna drop you off. No, I wanna hang out for a while.

Speaker 1 You trying to be the gentleman.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna drop you off home. Damn, so soon? Already? It's early, though.
That's how he gets there. I'm wide awake.
Oh, I'm sleepy. I took a nap early.

Speaker 1 I took a nap early because I knew he was going to hang out. I'm not even tired yet.
You sure you don't want to go bowling? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you trying to say? Can we just get back to your place?

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa.

Speaker 1 You did that.

Speaker 1 You did that so you could write it in the suit against us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Keep my name out that suit, please, even though I know my name is

Speaker 1 Each Page. Nigga, your name is in bold print at the top.
And against me. Queen's Prevention.
Trevor Burrus, Trevor. Trevor.
Trevor came, commented on, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yo, speaking of bowling, I don't know what y'all are doing Monday night. Me and Corey have been talking about it.
Let's go hit that new bowling alley up there. Yeah.
Just one key night. Monday night.

Speaker 1 I'm with it.

Speaker 1 Mel? Yep. Breeze?

Speaker 1 I'm with it. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 When y'all say it like that, it seems like I'm forcing y'all to handle. No, no, no.
So

Speaker 1 then the audience.

Speaker 1 Fuck them. We know what it is, nigga.
I'm with it. I never been there.
I just heard driving right out of there. That shit.
Dash told me it's fine. Dash and them be going.
They said it's fine.

Speaker 1 Oh, if Dash going. Dash's taste is typically my taste, too.
Yeah, shout out to me. Shout out to Dash.
Shout out to him.

Speaker 1 Classy gentleman. And live right there by my son's school, so he'd be letting me use his driveway.
Shout out to Dash.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Transactional.

Speaker 1 Are we going to talk about it on Patreon? Yeah. Or you're going to run and cower.
Who? You. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 Joe, you said. I'm asking.
Joe, are you? I'm not trying to be funny. Are you asking?

Speaker 1 If my man answer you, are you going to acknowledge the fact that you have that effect on people, that you have that effect, that you become friends with niggas and you don't value the friendship as much as possible?

Speaker 1 He's admitted that. I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 You don't value friendships as much as niggas to value. At all.

Speaker 1 But you value family. At all.
Family is the only one that gets a pass. My real friends is my family.
I don't even pick up word tricks, right? I'm going to get that nigga. I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 My friends that are friends,

Speaker 1 yo, I know him for how many years. You know, he can shake it sometimes.

Speaker 1 I know him for a whole lot of years. I know him for a lot of years.
Him for a lot of years. Him for a lot of years.
You clocked 15 or more with me, and we on the other side, still standing.

Speaker 1 We survived some shit. You family.
You family. But if you fall out, you'll still have some shit to say that would downplay it, though.
No. No.
Andrew, I ain't say nothing about it. We fell out.

Speaker 1 I don't say nothing about.

Speaker 1 I try not to talk about people after that. I got it.
I got it. After we fell out.
So, okay.

Speaker 1 trying to diminish you. Yo, if you were a part of my history in any type of way, I do appreciate it.
I'll show that respect and not speak about it.

Speaker 1 Me, I'm not saying everybody got to do that, but yeah, my real friends is family. My mom called Freeze.
Hey, the cables, it's something's happened. It's that, can you come?

Speaker 1 Hey, dad, my iPod won't take all the OJ's music that I got on the ADA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my friends, yeah, yeah. But friends, What's a fucking friend?

Speaker 1 A lot of people get hurt by that, though. It's a track record.
A lot of people, when they come out, yo, I realize later on or in the business transaction. Because we never get closure.

Speaker 1 I don't give closure.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that you need somebody else to get closure to, though. Not just that.
Most people

Speaker 1 don't conduct business. You agree with him with that? Most people don't conduct business.
Fucking closures. Do you agree that you don't believe that

Speaker 1 you don't need somebody else to get the closures you need? It depends on the circumstance. A lot of times niggas will step over a bus.
That means you co-hearted anyway.

Speaker 1 Look, a lot of times niggas will step over a line where I'm never going to speak to you again in my life. So I don't.
You can never return to that. That's the closure.
That's where I was.

Speaker 1 That's the closure. When you see me in the street and I look like I ain't see you.

Speaker 1 That should be your closure. Or you know what you did.

Speaker 1 So what if they apologize or try to? I don't need you apologizing.

Speaker 1 Some shit you can't apologize.

Speaker 1 Some shit is unapologizable. Yeah, yeah.
I agree with that. Really keep your apology.
I don't even need that. You're apologizing for you.
I don't want you to apology.

Speaker 1 Even if you're not apologizing for you. Even if you mean it.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I know that you have the ability to behave this way with people that you love. I'm good.
I think humans, all humans, I believe, to be pieces of shit. We all adapt.
We can all get shady if we need to.

Speaker 1 But when you get shady with somebody that you love, like was there for you. I know the audience got a blast.
Hey, that shady motherfucker in the world. That's not true.

Speaker 1 I just, once it's over, I don't speak to why it's over, how it's over, how I felt about it, how you hurt me. But it's over.
Does it give you sort of like a, I don't want to say thrill, but. No.

Speaker 1 I don't get any thrill. So what I'm saying is that if you.
I'd be hurt more than that. When people say...
I'm going to let you finish this sentence because I think I know where you're going.

Speaker 1 Does it give you a thrill that people

Speaker 1 mess up with you and then end up regretting it later? And then they talk about, yo,

Speaker 1 the only thing that they use is that I don't think Joe valued his friendship as much as we did or I did.

Speaker 1 Sometimes. Oh, thank you.
Okay, sometimes. Thank you.
That's fucked up to me, but I like it. No, it's not.
No, no, me. You know why? People will cross you, right? People will cross you.

Speaker 1 We got to talk about it on Patreon, but people will cross you, right? And the only reason that they really feel regretful is because you ascended.

Speaker 1 Now you're getting the mud in your face because I'm up. If I was still down, you'll still be cool with your decision.

Speaker 1 I know that. I don't know.
It's been people that's lower than me that I felt bad. Being around people, being around friends, and they point, they may tell a story.

Speaker 1 You cross them, and I might have crossed them, and I go home and think about it. I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 2 You didn't realize how much value they added to that.

Speaker 1 Is that how much value? Or I might have took advantage of a situation? I've been on this journey of correcting advantages that I made myself. You have been.
That's crazy. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So I, and I think y'all are. Yeah, but even in that, you got to live with the loss of a good friend.
If they on the other side of, yo, you did some shit that there's no coming back from that.

Speaker 1 They don't have to lost the good person. They don't have to accept it.

Speaker 1 It's hard to accept that. It is.
Because you would try to apologize. I changed.
You want to show them. I changed.

Speaker 1 Let me show you. And then you start to think, because then you start to trick yourself and manipulate yourself to get mad all over again.

Speaker 1 Okay, you never really value value me because my apology isn't valuable to you. So, talk about it on Patreon.
Because this nigga cold-blooded nigga. This nigga ice.

Speaker 1 This nigga silver surfer, nigga.

Speaker 1 Nah, I don't think so. That nigga.
What? I think that nigga. The way this nigga talked.
Nah. I mean, I'm trying to do it.
This nigga I'm a good guy.

Speaker 1 Nah, I'll be looking at that nigga like you're a sucker.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 1 I think you're a good guy. No, you're a sucker sometimes.
Like, me? Dog, not twice. Every time I meet, he said it twice.
No, when you, no, when somebody do certain shit to you, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could go to Patreon.

Speaker 1 I ain't with that. But he needs it.
He don't say it, though. So? He lets you.
That's a fucking trick. It's like some fucking maze.
It's not my fault. I feel like Joe is a good stock to have.

Speaker 1 That's how I view myself. Nigga.
Oh, that's Bitcoin.

Speaker 1 If you're in it for the wrong reasons,

Speaker 1 I say Joe is a good stock to have. That shit going up, up, up, up, up, up, up.
I always felt like that. How many Bitcoins you got? If you're not in it,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I've told you what I made already, Pocket White.
I told you I 3X, whatever it was. No, it was more than three.
Nah, it was three or four. Five or six.
Who counts?

Speaker 1 I had to account for it in my estate planning.

Speaker 1 It's that much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if you're not in it for the wrong reasons, then there's no reason for any of this to ever come up. We just friends.

Speaker 1 All right, man.

Speaker 1 Damn. This sit with you, right E.

Speaker 1 Feel this?

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck what y'all got to say out there.

Speaker 1 This guy will be missed. And that's why I behave when niggas be like, yo, he only make bubble gum pop that nigga in.
Nah, this nigga's fucking.

Speaker 1 This man will be missed.

Speaker 1 I don't like to fall off.

Speaker 1 I don't like how the breakup is going between my love for him and his catalog. I don't love it, but

Speaker 1 this man right here, yo,

Speaker 1 it's one of the best times in music in y'all lives.

Speaker 1 In your entire life.

Speaker 1 Listen, man. Yeah, I missed the nigga that was getting hurt, dubbed,

Speaker 1 played. That's why he did what he did.
Violated.

Speaker 1 That's why he fucked everybody girl.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's why he fucked everybody girl.

Speaker 1 Oh, but you did that to me? Yeah, I want to talk about that.

Speaker 1 I do. You lose them, how you get them.
How you come in is how you go out.

Speaker 1 Niggas don't want to talk about that. I love you.
You say, you bogged out. Something's wrong with you.
I may be. I may be.
I got some wild ideologies, but

Speaker 1 this one hurts, man. It had to be somebody in your but before.

Speaker 1 Somebody in your life that might have cut. Yo.
And when you went up, you might have shot at the Mac. Jay-Z over Drake in the versus Jay-Z over everybody to me.

Speaker 1 Jay-Z over everybody to me. That's a horrible.
Look how.

Speaker 1 Jay-Z. You got JB and Jay-Z.
I was trying to say Kanye West.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's biased. That's biased.
I think Hove might have a hard time with Kanye just because it's producer bag. He's got so much of his grades.
I like it. Jay-Z has a fancy.

Speaker 1 Very hard. 20 songs.
Anybody in the world has a hard time with this boy. Drake in that pin bag.

Speaker 1 Everybody has a hard time. Whoa, everybody.
It's no winning.

Speaker 1 Well, who I am in my spirit and soul would never let me

Speaker 1 say that.

Speaker 1 Everybody has a a hard time with him, but it's going to be beat. Because it's going to be about what people's personal preferences are at that point.
Song matchup. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 It's about your preferences at that point.

Speaker 1 This nigga's great.

Speaker 1 Drake, man. This boy's good, bro.

Speaker 1 Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Keep him in your prayers, too.

Speaker 1 Fall off is horrible.

Speaker 1 Until then, I bid you adieu. Farewell.
Adio, Cereba Dirchi, Asta La Vista, Arvoir, so long. Goodbye.
Or a simple head nod will suffice.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Remember that life is a series of moments,

Speaker 1 and this was a long moment, and moments pass.

Speaker 1 So, let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Speaker 1 Last but certainly not least,

Speaker 1 the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.

Speaker 1 She ain't got ass, she's just sitting on the countertop.

Speaker 1 Grab you a Tylenol. You might need it.

Speaker 1 If I'm never on your mind. What's anybody's weekend plans?

Speaker 1 Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me.

Speaker 1 Put things together.

Speaker 1 Some family shit. Family shit.
All right, family shit. We got work shit.
Big Male staying in town, huh? Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Itch. Some working shit.
Some house shit. I said she's going out of town, man.

Speaker 2 I'm not going out of town.

Speaker 1 No, no, she here. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Love will be brain.

Speaker 1 I'm not sneaking around. All she do is sneak.
Yo, man, would you take the Amtrak at this point in your life?

Speaker 1 Take the Amtrak.

Speaker 1 Yo, everybody, enjoy their weekend.

Speaker 1 Stay safe, head on the swivel at all times. At all times.
We will be back. Same time, same place next week.

Speaker 1 My man worked for Amtrak. Speaking of Accelerator.

Speaker 1 Yo, listen. This shit's a middle.

Speaker 1 Yo, keep it up. Look,

Speaker 1 the niggas is on a Acela train going from New York to D.C.

Speaker 1 Nigga gets on the train looking weird.

Speaker 1 Like they said he was mad, suspicious. They kept asking him for his ticket, for his ticket, for his ticket.
He didn't give nobody a ticket.

Speaker 1 They stopped. They ain't stopped.
They made a detour to a cellar in Philly. The cops came.
The nigga had a bag of guns this big on acela train.

Speaker 1 When was this? Just recently? Yeah, last week. Your man? My man works for Amtrak.
He got it got it, got it. He was on acela.
And they were going to TV. So your man wasn't the nigga that got locked up.

Speaker 1 No. No.
My man works for Amtrak. They said, yo, luckily,

Speaker 1 the conductor took it upon his own discretion to get off in Philly.

Speaker 1 They don't know what would have happened, but they caught this nigga. I got the picture of the guns.
A bag of guns.

Speaker 1 Three-hand guns, two rifles.

Speaker 1 I got the picture on my phone. That's crazy.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 So keep your head on the swivel. When you brought up the Amtrak,

Speaker 1 shout out to your man. That shit is crazy.

Speaker 1 First class ticket, Joe.

Speaker 1 Again, head on a swivel at all times. We're praying for the people inside and outside of these rooms.

Speaker 1 We're praying for the homeless. We're praying for the sick, both physically and mentally.
All of y'all in my prayers, man.

Speaker 1 Let's do our best to get back here next week.

Speaker 1 Same time, same place. We've enjoyed this.
Hopefully, y'all have enjoyed it as well.

Speaker 1 We're going, man. I don't know what I'm getting into this weekend.
I got to see.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the bitches that just go where the wind blows. Oh, I'm just going with the flow.

Speaker 1 Just going with the vibe of the night.

Speaker 1 Vibe of the night gonna get you crabby.

Speaker 1 And some crab legs.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the Knicks game, probably go get some garden glizzies. Hey,

Speaker 1 I love a garden glizzy. With the little seafood, what you want me to do, man? Go home.

Speaker 1 Watch a little

Speaker 1 landmines.

Speaker 1 It's crab. Savage.
Crab. Crab.
That's a good thing. Crab.
That's your worst. Crab.

Speaker 1 I don't think that crab tastes great with the Glizzy.

Speaker 1 Whatever. And he wanted.
No, nigga. I'm not.
You're my name. That's the other thing.
No, the seafood spot is next to the Glizzy spot. Oh, they're doing a surfing surf.
In the garden.

Speaker 1 You're doing a surfing surf.

Speaker 2 I thought it was crab meat in the glizzy.

Speaker 1 That's what I thought so. Oh, fuck.
Mel, get Tupperware. Shut the fuck up.
That's what you need to go do this weekend. When your birthday? Oh, Pat.
We don't know. November.
We don't want to know.

Speaker 1 Big Mel. 52.
I mean, 50. Fuck off.

Speaker 1 50. No, I'm not.
How old are you turning to 49? Yes.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you close. You're going to be 49? You ain't sneeze at 50?

Speaker 1 Yo, word. I ain't going to be rapping.
You're 50.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're a 50th birthday. Okay, y'all.
Can you

Speaker 1 throw you a 50th birthday party? I'm talking about me. Actually, yes.
Exactly. But we're not inviting anybody.

Speaker 1 We don't invite none of your friends. We're going to buy our own friends.

Speaker 1 You know who we're inviting.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Pitch the

Speaker 1 sketchers.

Speaker 1 Blank Doc Carter turned rapper in a honor.

Speaker 1 Separade father, but they daughter. Hey.

Speaker 1 I ain't heard a peep about Mandy out of you since she moved to fucking Mississippi. You've never heard a peep about me.
She moved out of me. She moved? I don't know.
I'm just talking shit to her.

Speaker 1 Stop doing that to the girl. She's getting in now.
Nowadays. Oh, shit.
Getting in what? Anywhere. Anywhere you want to go.
Oh,

Speaker 1 same way I got in for the last 48 years. Parking on the sidewalk, nigga.
Fuck you talking about you can't park on the sidewalk with no stupid ass tires.

Speaker 1 You got extra tires. You gotta get tires.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP. Where would you be without the JBP?

Speaker 1 Yeah, with this new laptop.