Episode 776 | "Love Out Loud"

2h 55m

In the latest episode, the crew reacts to Joe’s Instagram post for his girl’s birthday (9:47) before the room moves to their thoughts on Gillie & Wallo’s advice to Kodak Black (28:42). Mike Tyson and Jake Paul are set to square off in a boxing match on Netflix as the room predicts the outcome of the fight and whether or not it will be staged (38:52), the internet is reacting Skai Jackson’s baby daddy after he was arrested for violating parole (59:02), and footage is circulating of Offset getting into an altercation in Paris (1:18:37). John Krasinski has been named PEOPLE’s Sexiest Man Alive (1:40:43), Joe’s rewatch of ‘The Penguin’ leads Ish to think people are overreacting about the show (1:46:05), and new reports from UFO experts on aliens living underwater (1:53:50). Also, Leon Thomas pulls up to the studio (1:57:57) as the R&B singer speaks about his latest album ‘MUTT’, his time living in Los Angeles, what his music plans are moving forward, and much more! 

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Joe | Valiant - “Little Red Riding”

Ice | Morray - “Out The Hole”

Parks | Cordae (feat. Kanye West) - “No Bad News”

Ish | SAILORR - “POOKIE’S REQUIEM”

Melyssa | Ambré - “PT. II (DRAKE & DRIVE)”

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Runtime: 2h 55m

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Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. I am a sinner.
Everybody feeling good. Last looks.
Feeling great. Get your lint brush.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Get your dental floss.

Speaker 1 They get what we eat. Hit the last little bit of the cologne.
Some of y'all got the samplers, the cologne samplers.

Speaker 1 Spray that little shit. Samples held niggas down.
The piece of paper. You got the paper shit.
You just rub it on your wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spray that little shit.

Speaker 1 All right, make sure everybody is good. The levels, the levels.
Nigga walking around with the page and they popping.

Speaker 1 The levels is good. Everybody put their oil.
You You can do the oils. Some of y'all do like oils.
Hold on. Egyptian musk.
Oh, you know?

Speaker 1 Egyptian musk. Blue now.
Get in your bed, Blue Nell.

Speaker 1 You was there. Blue Nell.
Disgusting. I knocked plenty of them off with that blue now.
Let him get a whiff on that neck.

Speaker 1 Yo, Brooke. That shit was the hood favorite.
I ain't like that shit. And I'm talking about my past.

Speaker 1 Not playing with none of you loser ass fans. Yeah, you too rich for Blue Now right now.
Blue Nile was our version of their Love Spell. Love spell shit.
I bought some of that too.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is Love Spell? It's a girl shit. Oh, it's a girl shit.

Speaker 1 Victoria Secretary. Love spell.
Amber Romance. The spray.
The mitts. Mitt.
Mist. Mist.
Mist.

Speaker 1 That was the strip of favorite and around shit.

Speaker 1 That was the strip of favorite from 9-7 and on. Well, you pulling your sleeves down? This shit came out the cleanest, nigga.
I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 This shit was in a cleanest, nigga. You got bigger? Y'all, this nigga.
This nigga get smaller than me. I got bigger, right? What the fuck? Yo.

Speaker 1 Y'all got me following y'all cleaners rule and shit like that. 2X, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, listen, you wearing the knockoff.

Speaker 1 Do you know what you're wearing? I don't. You know what? That's the knockoff version of what we were talking about earlier.
That's not. That's the knockoff version.

Speaker 1 You try to get away with it and be fine. All right.

Speaker 1 It's not. It's not.
Thank you. It's not what I'm saying.
This hoodie is three years old, my nigga. It's not the knockoff.
It's not the knockoff. They knocked this niggas off.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, why are you jumping?

Speaker 1 Good, nigga.

Speaker 1 Hold on, I got got culture. You know, Kenim and Marcus.
Look, I got him.

Speaker 1 You all right? Stay out me and my man business. I'm sorry.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 God damn. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I ain't want you to say wrong shit. That's a passionate piece of music.
No, no, no. Let me just talk my shit to my man.
All right. All right.
Yeah, fuck you, man.

Speaker 1 We got a very special guest here. Leon Thomas is here with us earlier.

Speaker 1 It's good. How y'all feeling? Leon Thomas.
Mike got all of you here. He came so with us, man.
Little all us. I like that.
That's fine. So

Speaker 1 let's act like we got some home training since

Speaker 1 at least for 40 minutes. I don't think he wants that for you.
That's not what he wants.

Speaker 1 He's from Brooklyn, huh?

Speaker 2 He wants the viral shit. Let's go.

Speaker 1 The viral shit. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 All right, so let me see. Let me see how I'm feeling here, man.
Get into my bed.

Speaker 1 Uh-hum, hum.

Speaker 1 Uh-hum. Low weekend, huh? Here we go.
Low week. Here, ye.
Low week?

Speaker 1 Long week. Yeah, you good? I'm great.
You look good. Thank you.
I'm really good. Long week.
It looks like a long week, though. I feel it.

Speaker 1 I feel it. But

Speaker 1 who am I to point the obvious out? You know, the elephant in the room is me. So who am I to point myself out?

Speaker 1 I'm cool. Okay, okay, whatever.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 But anyway, you can catch me any day. Professor MMC and my peace get plenty.

Speaker 1 I made it. I told you.
Hey, my man, Chris Green in the building.

Speaker 1 Chris, you've been in the game a long fucking time, man. When you gonna retire?

Speaker 1 Chris, stop running around with niggas.

Speaker 1 We don't even kiss.

Speaker 1 Mike check, what you, what you, Mike, check, what you, what, you.

Speaker 1 So happy, so blessed to be here. Shout out to all the office show.
All this slow. Shout out to the first and last time, listeners.
That ain't

Speaker 1 no matter what you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, get everybody in their bag real quick.

Speaker 1 Yo, shout out to all y'all always doing it for the ladies, always doing it for the ladies. Big jersey, anytime I'm in the building, too, by the way.

Speaker 1 Just so we clear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got the key to new it, nigga. Mute up when I'm talking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the number one thing.

Speaker 1 Same old thing, same old game.

Speaker 1 Go walking around a number blocks with the kids.

Speaker 1 I've been

Speaker 1 won't be. Yo, I want friends that's not haters.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Tweet.

Speaker 1 There we go. Okay, okay, don't do the crazy.
I promise we're going now.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Aaliyah. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Squidsy dolls, dog kids.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, BK.

Speaker 1 Come on, I just any

Speaker 1 for the real bug. Let's go hold that dog down.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace to me. I'm chasing the cat.

Speaker 1 Why yo, what up? Why y'all?

Speaker 1 But keep it true. Every once in a while I break out the backyard and roam.
And get reckless, but I still know that home is home. And when I get there, I'ma sit there.
Think you're fucked in.

Speaker 1 Put my duck there. Do I handle my business?

Speaker 1 If I come home, gotta go to the steaming rip. I ain't got time for the living.
If y'all was an artist and y'all went in the studio and the producer played this beat, y'all would pick it? No. No.

Speaker 1 I've been stuck on the street. Yeah, I don't think so.
Wait, what year?

Speaker 1 What year?

Speaker 1 It's late nights.

Speaker 1 No, back then, back then, back then.

Speaker 1 Back then, yeah, I can see why he put it. Yeah, back then.

Speaker 1 They body this shit though, Fox. Nah.
They body this shit. This shit comes crazy.

Speaker 1 You can play with Timblin if you want back then.

Speaker 1 He bugged out a little bit.

Speaker 1 Mal, what up? Wake it up. Wake it up, Mel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Leon Thomas, not Bridges. Wake up.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I do too. I do too, but still, uh-huh.
Nah, because when he first dropped, I damn for sure thought it was Leon Bridges. When people were telling me, yo, Leon, Thomas got a new album.

Speaker 1 I was like, that's my daughter. I was just trying to movie together.
Me and Leon. And then he dropped like two weeks after you.
Yeah, for sure. No, we do love Leon Bridges up here.

Speaker 1 I'm just teasing Mel. That's an inside joke.
What was it?

Speaker 1 Between Mel and I. Actually, I'll snitch.
I'll snitch. I'll snitch.
Sorry, little swab on that. No, because I just got a weird call the other day from Mel.
Wait, first of all, what episode is this?

Speaker 1 776. Welcome to episode 776 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by a few, by Power, by Prize, Fix, Prize, Fix, Gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with a few really amazing people to my right. You know her fucking name, man.

Speaker 1 Come on, stop playing with her. Big Mel, Big Melissa Ford in the building.

Speaker 1 Flip is here, huh? Queens get the money. Ish is here.
King Wawa. Ice is here.
Come on, y'all know the vibes. Big Freeze, Leon Thomas is here.

Speaker 1 Parks is here. Poe is here.
Core is here. Chris Green is here.
Jaywan is here. Erickson is here.
Tanner and Savon are here. Bob Remote.

Speaker 1 And last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir, Ski.

Speaker 1 All right, how's everybody doing? We good, we good? How's everybody feeling? Good, everybody looking good, you smelling good. How was your week? How's your text inbox? How's your family doing?

Speaker 1 How's your friends doing? How are the pets? Are they well fed?

Speaker 1 How are your businesses going out there? How's the kid? How is everybody? How is every facet of your lives going? Everything is well. Hey!

Speaker 1 Everything is well. Work, work, work.
Hey!

Speaker 1 What are we doing as well?

Speaker 1 Mike Chad, what's poppin'?

Speaker 1 Yeah, wake up. It's the weekend, man.

Speaker 1 It's the weekend. I ain't got time for all that sultry Johnny Gill shit.
How did your birthday go?

Speaker 1 Because you know, our girls always take our birthdays as their birthdays, so I'm assuming you took Sade's birthday as your birthday.

Speaker 1 My lone participation in Scorpio season has come to an end. Yeah, right.
I did it. You still got this weekend.
Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think I did it well enough to wear.

Speaker 1 I'm off for the year. Oh, shit.
You bought that. I'm off.
I'm off for that. We had a really good time.
She had an amazing birthday. Nice.
We was all in love and shit.

Speaker 1 Nice. And love meaning we had dinner and like talked.

Speaker 1 Your post was

Speaker 1 so cute. Yeah, you smoked it.

Speaker 1 Good shit.

Speaker 1 See, here y'all go. That shit dope.

Speaker 3 It was. It was so lovey-dovey.
lovey-dovey.

Speaker 1 Yo, you know what's funny? See you. Let me ISO for Mel.
Famel, get your shit off, Mel. No, it was so.
No, no, give me your bag. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 You are a marshmallow. That's what I said on your post, though.
You are a marshmallow. And it is.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? It's so beautiful. I don't eat marshmallows.

Speaker 1 Really? I don't know.

Speaker 3 Not even by the campfire?

Speaker 1 The fuck? Okay.

Speaker 1 Black. No.

Speaker 1 I go out there and broke them out. But before it's time to eat them, I'm fucking.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, TMI.
Once I take her out there by the bonfire and we do

Speaker 1 and do that, we don't get to eat them. I'm fucking long before we get to

Speaker 1 it. Hey, these are good.

Speaker 1 Got it. I didn't even know it got to that much.
Shamore.

Speaker 1 I watched Shamore.

Speaker 1 I rose marshmallows when I was trying to beat something down. Not because I think it's cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, you taste good.

Speaker 1 Or a snack. Yo, you got any more of these?

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 what does that mean? I'm a marshmallow. Soft on the inside.

Speaker 3 Yeah, your post was just very,

Speaker 3 it was lovely. It was lovely.

Speaker 1 That's true. No,

Speaker 1 that is not what you're doing. I get what she means by the way.
That is nuts. You're soft.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Let me say this. I will say this.

Speaker 1 You lost the whole vocabulary.

Speaker 3 No, I will say this, that if that's the post for her birthday, I can't wait to see what your vows are going to sound like.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, whoa.
Are you always like doing this

Speaker 1 because I'm the girl.

Speaker 1 It was a fire pose. I'm the girl.
Let me tell you something. I know we're joking, and I'm trying to shut up to give y'all the runway to get y'all jokes off because I understand the game.

Speaker 1 The gig is the gig.

Speaker 1 But mad men in my life text me or called me about that pose.

Speaker 1 But not laughing like court. In support? Yes.
I'm talking about that. Mad

Speaker 1 men called and said, Yo, dogs,

Speaker 1 you did that. Once a pen,

Speaker 1 always a pen.

Speaker 1 Bro, that shit was fire.

Speaker 1 I forgot you was an MC, but you started naming some other niggas. A couple of niggas, when y'all get to writing some shit, niggas hit me like, I'm stealing some of that.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's fly to fucking love out loud. That shit was.

Speaker 1 All of that shit. Looking at you, so I totally understand it.

Speaker 1 I was in Apple. I was in the Apple store.
We was running around. As I was trying to get in my bag, I started writing the shit in Apple.
I started tearing up a little bit

Speaker 1 back there by the genius bar. Of course, I can't even get enough alone time to cry in the Apple store in peace.

Speaker 1 I sent your thick, stupid ass to the front because you get in the iPhone. Hear that animal digger walk her to the back.
I'm trying to cry back there by the headphones. Wipe my eyes.

Speaker 1 Babe,

Speaker 1 babe, sit with me.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 leave me the fuck alone and let me cry. So I cried in the Apple store.
She cried reading it. It was cool.

Speaker 1 That was nice. And it made me think, man, listen, I don't know what impression I give off up here,

Speaker 1 but I'm with all of that Loving Out Loud. I see you remixing the LOL too.
I see what you're doing here. Remixing the LOL.
Loving Out Loud. Yeah, LOL.
Love Out Loud. Love it out loud.

Speaker 1 I'm with all of that. You're trying to remix some shit, right? I'm with all of this.
I forgot how ill I was when I was in my romance bag.

Speaker 1 Like, I bought the card, found the pen in my house, started writing in it.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, nigga, what? I'm the man at, like,

Speaker 1 writing some mushy shit in a card. Are you kidding me? I see how my jersey is up there.

Speaker 1 I don't play, boy. So, yeah, it was nice.
It was nice. Dinner was nice.
We went out after. That was nice.

Speaker 1 Everything was nice. Everything was just nice.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday again. Happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Sade. Yeah, Happy birthday, Christmas, Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Mother's Day, Girlfriend Day, Girlfriend Day,

Speaker 1 Sweetest Day,

Speaker 1 next birthday.

Speaker 3 Is that Rose Tower kind of

Speaker 1 part of the celebration?

Speaker 1 No, that was me trying to be festive in here. That's a Christmas tree made with roses.
You are white as hell. It's not a rose tower.

Speaker 1 I thought it was a rose tower. Not a rose tower.

Speaker 1 A lot of white people thought that I'm black. Did y'all think that?

Speaker 1 That was a Christmas tree. That's a Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 Christmas rose. Roses.
It's lovely.

Speaker 3 I just thought that because

Speaker 1 you niggas are fucking heathens. Yes, it is.
Christmas tree.

Speaker 3 What is that? The ones that last like a year? The ones that have been treated?

Speaker 1 They're fake, man.

Speaker 1 I didn't go over and touch it.

Speaker 3 The shit's fucked.

Speaker 1 They look that good that I thought they were real. Thank you.
They look real. Did you think they were real? They look real.
Yeah, I thought they were. I'll judge you the same.

Speaker 1 All y'all thought that was real. No.
Yeah. Got it.

Speaker 1 I thought you, you know.

Speaker 1 Why is that a judgment? A Christmas tree with roses. I guess we don't know what real flowers look like.

Speaker 1 They look real.

Speaker 3 They just look really real.

Speaker 1 My bad. And nice.
That nigga's just a fucking nigga.

Speaker 3 Motherfucker can't accept a compliment. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, word. But we happy that you had a great time.
Thank you. We happy Sade had a great time.
I didn't have such a good time.

Speaker 1 I'm not good today pocket watching you. So what you did, I'm proud of you.
I'm happy for you. For the first time, during my pocket watching segment, I I analyzed it, and I was proud.
I read it.

Speaker 1 It touched me, too. It made me want to step my shit up a little more.
Like, I got to say some fly shit because these people be seeing this shit. And my nigga get his shit off.
And

Speaker 1 all jokes aside, it was a wholesome moment. I think that she deserved it.
I think that you deserve it. And that shit meant something to me, man.
So salute to you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. But I have a problem with Ish.
I knew the butt was coming. Yeah, Ish.
I got a problem with you, my man. Can I get my shit off?

Speaker 1 Please, but before you do, I just want to say, I can't take all the credit for my lovely post.

Speaker 1 I was inspired by Ice's

Speaker 1 lovely post that he did when I read it. Oh, you bit your shit.
A little bit. Hey, listen, man.
Yeah, because Ice post was: Girl,

Speaker 1 you strong as hell.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Girl, you love, girl, I put you through the ring.

Speaker 1 We'll fight. All right, let's fight.

Speaker 1 I ain't no. I forgot.

Speaker 1 I ain't him.

Speaker 1 Mike and Jake Paul won't be the only niggas we win today. Oh, all right, actually.
All right, so that was so that was the first, but that was the first draft of my post.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, girl, you Scorpios are strong.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've been through something.

Speaker 1 Women don't like that. They don't like that.
Yeah, women don't like that. I learned that.

Speaker 1 Like, when I used to write things to my wife, and I told her about, yo, we've been through a lot, all the fights and stuff.

Speaker 1 These Scorpios won't break. They don't like Scorpio.
Girl, I can't picture you being the most poetic

Speaker 1 I'm a poetic king, nigga. Oh, my bad.
You're rapper. Yeah, I'm a poetic king, but

Speaker 1 that's the first time my wife had an issue with that. Like, yo, why you keep because you can't do that.
You talking about all you're doing is rehashing.

Speaker 1 Why do you keep talking about the stuff that we went through? We got past it, niggas, for 15 years. You be proud, nigga.
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 And they want to get past it privately. Like, don't tell the world that we got.
Listen, when you, listen, I'm not these niggas.

Speaker 1 When you have issues, or when you were younger and you had issues and you handle things a little bit different, when a long period of time passed and you don't handle it the same way, I'm proud.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck what she said.

Speaker 1 I am. Just proud of it, man.
Proud of, you know, so she don't. So I guess they don't want to rehash the,

Speaker 1 but you got to know where you come from in order to know where you're going. That's me.
I agree. So.

Speaker 1 Well said. Well said.

Speaker 1 Clap it up for that, man. Yeah, gross.
Gross, gross.

Speaker 1 That's really what it is. Gross is a characteristic.

Speaker 1 You flip spear. No, shit.
No, no. I'm bad on that bullshit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 I thought you was getting to him. I'm about to.

Speaker 1 You didn't know I was cuddly?

Speaker 3 No, I knew that.

Speaker 2 I did know that.

Speaker 3 But, you know,

Speaker 3 like a lot of people said, they forgot that you had the gift of the pen. And you reminded everybody.

Speaker 1 Well, and that I'm cuddly.

Speaker 3 We know you're cuddly.

Speaker 1 Well, she didn't. That's why she calls you a marshmallow.
It's a hard exterior.

Speaker 1 I'm working on it.

Speaker 1 Even when I listen back to the pop, my voice be sounding like I believe most of the shit I say. I want to change that.
Like, I be sounding like I'm convinced. No, I'll tell you, I got it.

Speaker 1 Like, I wanted to chill, man, my blood pressure. Yeah.
Anyway, hey, yo, Ish. Ish, what's going on? Yeah,

Speaker 1 one of my homegirls says she met you, and she was thoroughly impressed by how cool you were. You had manners.

Speaker 1 You smiled. I don't know.
I don't know what all that shit is about, but.

Speaker 1 You don't fuck with Spy? No, when she was telling me that. I suppose to be rude to your people? When she was telling me that I became possessive.

Speaker 1 Did you know that it was his people's? Did you know that? Yeah, she introduced herself. Yo, I'm from the flip.
I became possessive in it. And then I started calling her every day again.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, best friend. Like, you ain't gonna be cool with this nigga.
Meet this nigga and now he's your favorite on the podcast. And he's your favorite person to meet.
Nigga, I'm your friend.

Speaker 1 And I haven't spoken to her in a man long. She did, yo, I saw Ish.
I met Ish. He's a nice guy.
I'm proud of you. She hit me with all that.
Then I said,

Speaker 1 sort of like, well. Then I start responding back to back too.
Like, when the bubble was there, I started writing, yo, we wet. Let's hang out and shit.

Speaker 1 She was like, yeah, he was mad, cool, and shit like that. The guys are wonderful.
I would love to come up there.

Speaker 1 Come up where?

Speaker 1 Sure, you come up there through me, not through my man. Oh, shit.
I don't like shit like that.

Speaker 1 And not even.

Speaker 1 And not even. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And not even. Just so it's clear.
Hold on, hold on. Me and you back on our shit.
We back on our shit. So I could bring them, bring them, I could bring them up here.

Speaker 1 Oh, great. That segues right through the one question I have throughout this whole ordeal.
Got you. Scale of one to ten, how's this girl look?

Speaker 1 Very important. Nine.

Speaker 1 To me.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Don't y'all kiss yourself. Yo, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 No, she's not a shit. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, you made it sound like she was about to be a four.

Speaker 1 So very attractive lady. Yeah, she was attractive.
She was cool, though. Like, she was like a hump.
That's even more important, right? She was like,

Speaker 1 like, when I started talking to her, she was like a dude. So that, you know, we fucked with guys.

Speaker 1 She was like a dude.

Speaker 1 I don't like that shit. There's a lot of pretty airheads.

Speaker 1 I don't want to mix friends.

Speaker 1 I want to keep my friends group separate, nigga. I don't want you to know that, nigga.
I don't want you to know him. Because he goes shit on the biggest scale.
Like, they tolerate my...

Speaker 1 This is my thing. They tolerate my nonsense.
That's why the only person I'm comfortable with is Joe. Because...

Speaker 1 When I bring you around, my man, he show y'all a good time, and that would look good on me. But a nigga like this, light-skinned bandit, nah.
He did the the same thing. I'm about to say he.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I gotta know.
He might not buy the Calamari. Oh, shit.
Some shit.

Speaker 1 I'll buy it. I take it.
Yeah, he buy it. He's gonna buy it.
He'll buy it. He's gonna buy it.
This is every nigga that did. They're gonna get a honeybag, too.
They his friends now.

Speaker 1 They walk like, they not even gonna say hi to me. If I'm waiting, it's hey, it's y'all hug him first.
Like, shit like that. I want to avoid all that shit.
Think you my friend? Now I'm back.

Speaker 1 I'm back in. I'm back.
You're fucking friend stealers. Nah, hell.

Speaker 1 I'm back in the front pocket. Every day, tell you, yo, good morning, you good.
I haven't spoken to the girl. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 I'm avoiding it. Look at jealousy, boy.
Yo, that's crazy. I'm an eighter.
I don't like that shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's still nice when an 8-9 just introduce themselves to you out of the blue and know somebody you know. True.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And sit and converse.
Speak to that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she's like a dude.

Speaker 1 No, sit and converse for a while. That's true.
That's fine. She can talk.

Speaker 1 She's not an airhead eight. Not at all.

Speaker 1 Mad cool.

Speaker 1 Now you speak to it, nigga. What's your point? Go ahead.
What'd you say?

Speaker 1 You know, I can't speak to it. Why?

Speaker 1 I'm not as talkative as. You're the best podcaster in the world.
I'm not. No, no.
What are you talking about personally? You're talking about in real life.

Speaker 1 Outside here. I'm not as talkative

Speaker 1 in real life. When y'all say that, right? When I see him now.
I'm trying to say ice. Oh, I'm about to say that.
Ice. No,

Speaker 1 when I've been outside with it, he's not talkative. So when y'all say that, are y'all basing it off of like old shit?

Speaker 1 I've seen that talk.

Speaker 1 In action, Paul. Being talkative?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Y'all better update the button.
He's been saying that for a while.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 if it's new shit, there's new shit. I know.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe, he's talkative. Both of them crying in a few minutes.
Pause talking.

Speaker 1 That's it, then.

Speaker 1 The thumb comes out. That's it.

Speaker 1 Well, the thumb is different. That's when you're talking.

Speaker 3 No, that's a move.

Speaker 1 That's definitely a move. The move is there when talking is happening.
I know. I'm just talking about one of their friends while I'm out coming up to me saying, hey,

Speaker 1 such and such and such. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You would just have to talk about it. No, no.
No, he wouldn't. It don't matter how she looked.
No. No.
Albo? No, no, no. He's not talking.

Speaker 1 Not at all. He's not talking.
That's different. That fine shit don't work on me.
If he out somewhere and somebody just come up and say, oh, I know Ish, I know Ice. I know.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thanks.

Speaker 1 Nah, that is. Good for you.
It depends, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, not talking outside. No, it do not depend.
Yo, when you came in, what that was like, two years ago, I think?

Speaker 1 When you came in, like, yo, I was at a cookout and the girl said that she was your ex-girlfriend from high school. Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Yes, he went to the, I was at Mandy's family's house.

Speaker 1 I know, but I'm saying that a girl came up to you. She didn't come up to me.
We're at her family's house. It was her family's, it was just her family there.

Speaker 1 You missed with Haitians that time?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, I didn't know.
It was Mandy's family's cookout. I know, I know where it was.
I wasn't even getting into all of that. But

Speaker 1 guessing if I go to my friend's family cookout and one of her homegirls come up to you and start talking about ish. You're in a home-ish.
I think that's a little different.

Speaker 1 If you're in a mall, let's say you're in a mall and a girl just walk up and say, yo, I know-ish. I was just saying, I know Flip.

Speaker 1 I'm polite.

Speaker 1 We was already talking in the kitchen, the family in the kitchen talking. And in the middle of the talk, she said, Oh,

Speaker 1 sample fact, that's not the same. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not. I'm just, I'm polite to any of my friends' friends.
Thank you. Like, that's just who I am.
Especially if she's a. I know.
Many have asked you to stop.

Speaker 1 I think that's what Flip is saying now.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be an asshole about people's people. Nah, I understand that.
A gentleman. A gentleman.
That's for sure. Like you said, especially if you're the one.

Speaker 1 You can't. Come on.
Be a four, and I'm going to be me.

Speaker 1 Well, the four. You may be a little bit.
The four, I don't care. Be friends with the four.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, be friends with the four. You know, they need the the coverage.
Oh, confidence.

Speaker 1 Bro. Yo, look at some fucking idiots.
That's the problem when you've been with your girl or partner a really long time. You can't get off the, hey, I've been, I know her.

Speaker 1 Cannot. I've been knew her.
You cannot. Nah, that's my friend.
You can't. Nah.
Why you can't get off her? You can't be.

Speaker 3 But they're like, how do I not know her?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why am I just not hearing about her now? Yeah, how do you know?

Speaker 3 Never cross paths.

Speaker 1 You've never said her name But it also depends on your relationship, right? Like,

Speaker 1 if your family, if your significant other secludes herself from your life or profession, I can meet anybody anytime. I don't even understand it.

Speaker 1 I don't understand that. You can't.

Speaker 1 Can either of y'all significant others

Speaker 1 No, y'all can. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I can go to a listening party and meet somebody, introduce and meet someone. My wife doesn't know who I met or have to know who the lady is.

Speaker 3 And then you carry on like a 15-year friendship with that person and your wife never.

Speaker 1 You never pour them up. And then 15 years later, it's...

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas bring friends around y'all family?

Speaker 1 I don't even see. I don't know.
Or even like the mere mention.

Speaker 1 I think y'all on two separate pages. Okay, I must be.
I'm sorry. Okay, I must be on the.

Speaker 1 What were you saying? I was saying that it's girls that I've known for 20 years that my girl don't know. Has she heard their name or anything? Maybe not.

Speaker 1 Y'all are close. That's not what we're talking about.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I meant. Are y'all close? That's not what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 You haven't been with your girl for 20 years. I know.
But had you been with your girl for 20 years, that would not fly. Why not? Nah, that would fly.
I don't think

Speaker 1 you're going to meet everybody.

Speaker 1 So you said you can be with your girl for 20 years and have a friend for 20 years and it's never come up.

Speaker 1 Now, 20 years later, you're saying, oh, yeah, it's my home girl.

Speaker 1 She's been my people for 20 years. Yes, I've done that.

Speaker 1 I've been with my wife for 10 years, and I've got friends from high school or whatever that was 20 years ago, and they haven't met because they live in fucking California and y'all are so close.

Speaker 1 And there's levels of friends. I mean, not like close, close, but we still talk about it.
no there's some girls that I'm close with that my girl never met and there's levels of friendship too okay

Speaker 1 hey y'all got it yeah

Speaker 1 absolutely

Speaker 1 there's there's one little piece here and this is no no attacks at nobody y'all ain't dating black women that ain't flying yo hold up i yo i talk about this it's not flying ice

Speaker 1 yo ice that's he you just shot elephant in the room that's not an elephant i've dated black girls my entire life

Speaker 1 I've been the same way my entire life. Okay.
Every black girl ain't the same. Every black girl ain't insecure or jealous or any of the other shit.

Speaker 1 Everybody different.

Speaker 1 Ice. I'm with them.

Speaker 1 Why would you say some shit like that? It's not nice. Ice.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Niggas dated black women before.

Speaker 1 That's not what I just said. It could be the reason why you don't now.
That don't prove it to me. Wait, what do you mean? Just because you've dated black women before,

Speaker 1 your experience could lead to why you don't date them now? Yes.

Speaker 1 That goes with anything. That's for life.

Speaker 1 Y'all making it awkward. Yeah,

Speaker 1 keep it pushing.

Speaker 1 I'm muting up.

Speaker 1 What can we talk about that's not awkward? How y'all feel about the Gillian Wallow shit talking to Kodak real quick?

Speaker 1 I just want to throw that out real quick before we start talking about Mike Tyson or anything else. I heard about it.
I ain't see it. I watched it.
Mixed emotions, I guess. I think it's dope.

Speaker 1 I think that once you introduce the content piece, it becomes

Speaker 1 formative a little bit. Yeah, potentially, but I think ultimately it's a dope conversation.
I think Wallow, I think Wallow's intentions are always in the right place when it comes to these things.

Speaker 1 He has a history of

Speaker 1 I see the jokes going around where it's like

Speaker 1 usually once. Well, there's jokes to be made.
Yeah, once Wallow shows up, that's that's like Reaper. It's like getting the key to the city.
Yeah, that's like you got 24 hours to live. Just think

Speaker 1 when Wallow is 0 for

Speaker 1 99 in these talks.

Speaker 1 So I'm with the jokes. Yeah.
Just jokes. I also do believe that Wallow has enough equity built up to whereas

Speaker 1 he's genuine. I do think you can be genuine and performative.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, it feels,

Speaker 1 the Dirk one to me,

Speaker 1 Dirk stopped by the pod. Wallow had that talk.

Speaker 1 Young thug stopped by the pod. Wallow had the talk.
Anytime I've seen him have this talk, they stopped by the pod.

Speaker 1 Them going to you. Well, they

Speaker 1 on a dirt one, I think they went to dirt. Throw another lab.
Yes. No, but it was on their pod.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that was out there, though. It was on their podcast.
It was

Speaker 1 on their podcast. I get it.
As opposed to being like outside. As opposed to just an independent piece.
Gotcha. Yeah, we're in the parking lot.
Throw these labs on.

Speaker 1 Now, a piece may be coming from this.

Speaker 1 Maybe they did a sit-down. I don't know.
But all we saw so far is this standalone piece.

Speaker 1 And listen, I don't have, I'm not, I'm really glad that we have Gillian Wallow to go do that.

Speaker 1 Whether it's performative or not,

Speaker 1 somebody needed to do it. Yeah.
And needs to continue to do it, by the way. I like that role.
I like that role for them. Yeah.
And who better? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, that's, I think Wallow's the perfect person.

Speaker 1 Because a lot of times,

Speaker 1 People don't want to hear it when it's coming from somebody because like you didn't live this or you you don't really know what you're you're talking about. You can't say none of that to Wallow.

Speaker 1 Nor Gilly, who lost his family. Nor Gilly.
Yes, I'm sorry. But nor Gilly.
You can't say that to them. They are

Speaker 1 every, I can speak to y'all. Like when they say they're the voice of the trenches, they say that for a reason.
And I ain't going to affront, man.

Speaker 1 When we was all watching whatever fight that was and the fight almost broke out between all them niggas in the crowd, that was Wallow and them in there trying to diffuse things.

Speaker 1 But the joke's going to fly.

Speaker 1 And do y'all think that Kodak actually listen?

Speaker 1 That's the problem. That's the real problem.
A lot of times, these younger dudes are not going to listen. Me and Jaywan were having a conversation earlier about that.

Speaker 1 You just, it's a different world. So it's like, yeah, I hear you, but you don't know what it is like out here today.
Your time was your time. So you're speaking.

Speaker 1 You can't speak to whatever it is that's happening right now because it's just not your world. And that's just a young mentality.

Speaker 1 We've gotten game, I've gotten game from older people in my family and just homies that later on down the line, you'll be like, damn, such and such was saying that.

Speaker 1 And then it might click years later, but in that moment, it's like, bro, I'm whatever age and you 20, 25 years older than me, you don't know what's going on right now. Like, shut up.

Speaker 1 I ain't trying to hear it. And when you're young, not saying Kodak is that young, but a lot of the young young ones, you think this, you know everything.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Can't nobody older than me tell me nothing even though they live through it that's it yeah that's that's the killer piece to me like it's every all of us i'm sure i can't i ain't grow up with everybody in here but all of us i'm sure had an older person telling you the do's and the don'ts and yo where they up and they telling you from experience and you just thinking yo you you made that left yep i ain't gonna make that left you know i'm saying like everybody like that's why uh

Speaker 1 drugs

Speaker 1 like i ain't really never really fucked with drugs like that when i was young because i saw what it did to other people.

Speaker 1 A lot of people try drugs for the first time thinking that it ain't going to do that to me.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? And it was that, once they had that shit a couple times, it was over. I think it's a similar situation.

Speaker 1 Like, a lot of times you'll be in the street, you smarter than everybody. You could do it better, you could do it different, and it's not going to get me.
And I think that's what happens.

Speaker 1 But you got to salute them niggas for trying to steer them for the right path, for sure. Yeah, still need it.
Yeah, I think that's the bottom line. Shout out to Gilly Wallow.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Kodak as well. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now to go back to our earlier topic that made it all awkward and weird, but I just thought a little more.

Speaker 1 There is a such thing as doing too much with your friend while you're in a relationship.

Speaker 1 There is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so. So we can like

Speaker 1 to advance that combo that we was trying to have about friends and when you know them and who you know them.

Speaker 1 Really, if you're in a long-term thing,

Speaker 1 Do it matter when you met them? There is a such thing as, all right, now you're doing too much with your friend. Especially when it's absolutely sex.
Absolutely. yes absolutely i agree with that

Speaker 1 okay okay just checking just i gotta feel i gotta i gotta feel

Speaker 1 yeah but like not knowing them like i could know a million i know a million people i've been off the porch since i was a child not just knowing it's the the

Speaker 1 being close to i've been close to a lot of people i might not have seen them in seven eight years but when i rekindle with them it's like we never missed a beat and there's girls that i never had sex with i never kissed i never nothing and they was on some like my sister shit

Speaker 1 Like they was like on my sister's shit for seven, eight, nine, ten years, and they might have moved away, whatever the case may be. And you lost that thing with them.
They might move in town.

Speaker 1 You might see them in the mall, whatever the case may be, and you could pick up right where you left off. See, I think it's a cap on that close, close friendship shit.
When you're in the long-term.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're not as close no more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No part. I'm talking about when you.

Speaker 1 The person that moved away, you know, they moved to L.A. or some shit like that.
Y'all might not be as close. That's still your peoples.
Whenever y'all link back up, it's like no time was ever lost.

Speaker 1 But in that time apart, y'all might not be as close. I'm talking about when they say, yo, this has been my

Speaker 1 like my other half, my ride or die for years. And then your significant other's like, okay, if you're this close to this person for this long, and I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 You ain't even never mentioned them. Right.
I've never heard you on the phone like nothing where, yo, it's my homegirl such and such. Like,

Speaker 1 it seems like this might be

Speaker 1 some bullshit.

Speaker 1 They might not believe it as much because it's it's like you just springing a person up. I think that's an insecurity thing, me personally.

Speaker 3 No, it's not an insecurity thing. It's like it's assurance.

Speaker 1 If I'm telling you and you trust your man that I've known this girl for 15 years,

Speaker 1 and this used to be my, my nigga, my ace, like this was my people's. You might have never heard of them.

Speaker 1 But when they come back around, I think that you should trust your significant other to be telling the truth.

Speaker 1 I don't think that you should think that this person is plotting or this person is scheming or they doing something sneaky.

Speaker 1 I think that if you really love your man or you really love your girl, you're going to believe what they're telling you. I will say this, though.

Speaker 1 While all that is true, I also wouldn't put my wife in a position to feel uncomfortable by doing some like,

Speaker 1 oh, me and

Speaker 1 staying out late.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? We said introducing a person to your girl. Like that going out shit is something different.
I'm talking about, yo, this is my people.

Speaker 1 This is my strong peoples.

Speaker 1 You ain't have to necessarily hear of them. You might only be six years in.
I might might have known this person and was close with this person 10 years ago, and they left.

Speaker 3 And that's why Joe is saying, like, long-term relationships.

Speaker 3 I think that you're talking past six years.

Speaker 1 Six years is a long time. Six years is long term.
That's long term.

Speaker 1 Five years is long term. Four years is

Speaker 1 today. Yeah.
I was like, shit, I think it starts at three.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm cheating on you at three.

Speaker 1 That's not long enough for me to not cheat. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Okay.

Speaker 3 That is a really nice

Speaker 1 sense. And then you're going to say, yo, dog,

Speaker 1 they be believing what I said.

Speaker 1 Look at how you just said it, nigga.

Speaker 1 Look at your face now. I'm cheating on year three.
Sorry. I mean, that may just be pardon.
Year one and two, I'm cheating.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 You got to establish yourself in it.

Speaker 1 You got to work through some shit. I got to see if it's real.
See how you work through adversity.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 What Flood said, all these fices, all these people.

Speaker 1 Are you built for this?

Speaker 1 Niggas,

Speaker 1 got to see how much she can take.

Speaker 1 They built the turbulence. They built the survival.
Yeah. Ford tough.

Speaker 1 Ford tough. Old school Ford.
Uh-huh. Square ones.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 1996. Y'all just drive the car fast.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Off-road. The square drill kid off-road shit.

Speaker 1 This nigga's stupid, yo. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Anytime you want to not work here, I'll sign the paper.

Speaker 1 No, I understand it.

Speaker 1 I'm listening to them. I'm hearing them through the male gaze.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Don't start that for me shit. Harry and Tim.

Speaker 1 Forgive me. Harry and Bim.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Through the male gaze.

Speaker 1 Tough, yo.

Speaker 1 It's got to be tough on women. Amani, they on the internet calling you thin diesel.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I'm cool.

Speaker 1 And it was, it's true a little bit. Like, you resembled the nigga, like, but thin.

Speaker 1 Like, without the

Speaker 1 creatine.

Speaker 1 Without the thin diesel. Thin diesel.
Fucking nuts. That was funny.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 Fuck said that, bro. These nuts.
He's funny. These nuts.

Speaker 1 Tell me about me funny, yo. Creatine.
Man, funny. Oh, man.
Y'all want to get into some of this Tyson shit? Speaking of diesel?

Speaker 1 Hey, you.

Speaker 1 He's diesel. Hey, you.

Speaker 1 I'll pay the fee. All right.

Speaker 1 Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul happened last night, but we're recording before it happened, so we're speculating and forecasting. Indeed.
yes

Speaker 1 who does everyone have and why

Speaker 1 i got jake paul my heart is all mike mine's too my brain is probably jake paul from a business standpoint i got jake paul i think they're gonna make this a draw so they can try to do this two or three times and draw this bitch out and don't tell me spots in your heart again

Speaker 1 room for mike though but yeah in your heart yeah of course in my heart oh yeah

Speaker 1 from the bottom of my heart once he oh once he flashes the old mic now

Speaker 1 Draw.

Speaker 1 So draw for the rematch. Yeah.
I think you get a rematch either way, no matter what. Yeah, that may be true.
If they're doing money grab shit.

Speaker 1 Now I'm thinking, Mike beats him for the draw. Tell your heart.

Speaker 1 If you're going to pitch the draw, because I think that if Mike loses, there is no rematch.

Speaker 1 I think that if you want that,

Speaker 1 then Mike has to win. I got controversy.
It depends how he lose. It's possible.
If he put up a great fight and then he just gets a lucky shot in, then I can see a rematch.

Speaker 1 If he's dogging Mike Tyson through the whole thing, nah. What's the controversy?

Speaker 1 It'll be something like

Speaker 1 Mike ignoring in the round bell, keep going, hurting him, can't continue.

Speaker 1 And then Bill's build on, yeah, something. Tax the rest.
Something

Speaker 1 gets a little out of hand on Mike's side. And it's going to cancel the fight or stop the fight.

Speaker 1 And then that'll lead up for a rematch. And you think that's going to be planned? That will lead to the Netflix producer running out there.

Speaker 1 Running out there to stop whatever's going on. No, I 100% think this fight is script.
Vince McMahon, WWE script. Same for you.
1,000%. I think the outcome is already determined.

Speaker 1 I think this is just entertainment at this point.

Speaker 1 But then I'll put on the show and let's go out and get it.

Speaker 1 This is the problem Jake Paul has, though, because you guys keep putting him in that box, even though he started like that, like in that box as far as not taking him serious or taking what he does serious.

Speaker 1 This is the problem. This is why he wants to keep going and going to fight everyone because

Speaker 1 every time he's associated with a fight, people are thinking that it's set up,

Speaker 1 it's a skit, or it's WWE. You know what I mean? And it's not.
No, it's not. No, it's not true.
I think it is.

Speaker 1 I think he's taking it serious, but I think he's not going to be taken serious until he gets like fighting a 58-year-old Mike Tyson ain't going to get him to take you serious.

Speaker 1 But he done knocked out some other motherfuckers that were 15 years old. He supported no fighters.
No. He afford no fucking

Speaker 1 fighters.

Speaker 1 Well, and then stop with it because believe what you want to believe.

Speaker 1 But I don't believe that they're gearing him up to be a professional fighter and enroll him in whatever weight class and he go on about. So you think the whole thing, let me just get this straight.

Speaker 1 It's too much money. It's too much money.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it would behoove them financially to become.

Speaker 1 No, why not?

Speaker 1 You're not even in the same draw.

Speaker 1 That's not true. He's right.
He's not. That shit's not the game no more.
The game has changed. Didn't they say he's getting 40 40 million for this shit? Something like that.

Speaker 1 I don't think that he would get that at a.

Speaker 1 No, he would not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably nowhere near. But the fans that's watching for Jake Paul will still come and funnel over from

Speaker 1 wherever they watched him for initially, from the YouTube world. That's why he's a draw.
He's bringing different eyes, a younger generation. Not a boxer drawer.
Yes. Not a purist to the sports.

Speaker 1 Not a boxer. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Anytime that he's. He's a hot aspect of boxing, yes.
But he was boxing for real. Anytime that he boxed, people were watching.
They saw the numbers. That's why Netflix went to them.

Speaker 1 He did it on his own, and Netflix went to them because of the numbers that they bring. I know.
Same thing with Floyd and Logan Paul. I didn't see Netflix go to Triple G.
I got to get it.

Speaker 1 I didn't see Netflix go to Canelo.

Speaker 1 No, you ain't seen Netflix go get Canelo. You ain't seen Netflix go get Shakur.
You ain't seen Netflix go get Tank. If anything, Netflix should go pick up Tank.

Speaker 1 Tank is the biggest drawing boxing right now. Ta-da.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 no, there's no doubt about it. He is.
He is, but

Speaker 1 he's canceled the fight because

Speaker 1 in the sport of boxing, it's tank. It's not even a question.
So tank is the man. Now, when you start talking the promotion and the entertainment side of the exhibition boxing and that shit like that.

Speaker 1 So you don't think that

Speaker 1 they could mix the two? They are mixing the two. They can.

Speaker 1 It's just not a professional boxing match.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 if Jake Paul was to fight an actual boxer in his weight class, you're saying that he won't get the views and the numbers and the pay-per-views the same?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 It doesn't make sense. The niggas that he was fighting, I didn't know some of them niggas and a lot of people were watching it.
I purchased some of them shits. So have I.

Speaker 1 And none of them have been fighters.

Speaker 1 And listen to this.

Speaker 1 They've been retired fighters. Niggas did MMA retired.
And we still watched. Basically.
Because he's a druid. We just arguing with druids.
He's a druid.

Speaker 1 No, but the boxing purist didn't watch that fight.

Speaker 1 The boxing purist is not going to watch it. He ain't working his way to a belt.

Speaker 1 And I don't know that it would would behoove him and to do so i don't think it's

Speaker 1 i don't think it would i don't agree but we could move on i don't agree there's big money in exhibition boxing absolutely clearly that's that's the game now yes you see floyd done retired floy like yo i went out undefeated i don't ever have to have a professional fight again i can crack them over the head every time i feel like it with an exhibition fight for 30 or 40 million dollars yeah over and over and over again yes or i go over here where i'm it's a professional licensed fight and all that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not making the same money. I'm at the age where I just bring race into everything now.
I turned into my dad. Boy used to hate when he did that.
But that's the age I'm in.

Speaker 1 So I can't think about this fight without

Speaker 1 being racial.

Speaker 1 I don't understand. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 If Jake Paul beats Mike Tyson, then that sets us back 500 years as a people.

Speaker 1 Mike Tyson is black excellence. It's one of our most famous, prolific blacks.
One of our most known, beloved blacks culturally.

Speaker 1 We don't need fucking this white boy coming to make Mike Tyson look bad. Especially if he makes him look bad.

Speaker 1 That's different from Buster Douglas doing that. And that's why I say wrestling.
Because in wrestling, that happens. You have the...

Speaker 1 Somebody basically pass the torch or put you over, it's called.

Speaker 1 That happens where you are at the end of your run and you're going to pass pass the torch to the guy that's going to put whatever this is on his back for the next 10 years.

Speaker 1 It's apples and oranges for us.

Speaker 1 I get it. Yeah, because in wrestling, everybody agreed to be a wrestler.

Speaker 1 If you're familiar with Mike Tyson's story, no. True.
I have been beating people up since I was eight years old. I have been fighting for food.
for fighting to live. Knocking out

Speaker 1 I had a real anger management issue and I was a beast. So he'd fuck around and and get in that ring and forget the script.

Speaker 1 He'd fuck around, get in there, and say, fuck that money, fuck your rules. Get hit too hard.
I'm fucking him up. Or

Speaker 1 he plays the game. Like, or Mike is sitting here.
I understand all this. I'm a businessman.
I'm going to come in here. I'm going to do this at the press conference.

Speaker 1 I'm going to sell the fuck out this mic and we're going to go make a shit ton of money and ride off into the sunset. I think that's what's happening.
And I felt safer.

Speaker 1 I felt more secure when before they changed the rules. When it it was exhibition rules, hey, no knockdown, no such and such.
I don't have the updated rules, but they changed the rules.

Speaker 1 So I think, oh, that's part of the work.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
To build more hype. Yeah, I think they needed more viewers or wanting to.
They need to change the rules. I need it.
Because

Speaker 1 again, when we think Mike Tyson, we think knockout cricket. That's what we think.
So if that's off the board. If he bite his ear off,

Speaker 1 I got my Netflix worth. But look,

Speaker 1 if knockouts.

Speaker 1 If knockouts and knockdowns is off the board,

Speaker 1 it's not, what are we watching for Mike Tyson for? Me and his dick.

Speaker 1 I'm watching to see something that I don't normally see.

Speaker 1 I want something strange to happen. Yeah.
Like when we was watching that shit in the 90s and the nigga flew in with that balloon rose.

Speaker 1 Stupid.

Speaker 1 Yeah. With a parachute?

Speaker 1 Your white people think they can just do what the fuck they want.

Speaker 1 Fly out in the middle of the shit. Fly in the middle of the ring in a balloon.
Idiot. I want to see something like that.
I get you. I'm just saying that this is this.

Speaker 1 Every Super Bowl, some white nigga run out and ah,

Speaker 1 I be home eating my chips and shit. Like, look, see a new shit now.

Speaker 1 They're about to tackle the shit out of this nigga.

Speaker 1 He'd be busting security ass until one of them players say, all right, let me show you. You want to fill? Watch this.
Nah, yeah. Players fucking.
They don't play that.

Speaker 1 The players and sports and the wrestlers, when you go in the ring, they start fucking the fans up. They want to get in the interval.

Speaker 1 Listen, when when I interviewed Mike Cass City,

Speaker 1 he swung on me playing

Speaker 1 and I almost hit the ground.

Speaker 1 Playing. Cut through the wind.

Speaker 1 I felt the wind the gush

Speaker 1 right through my face. Also, that fist got close to my face and

Speaker 1 felt the fear. Speed of light right there.
Well, no, because I know he playing. He don't even mean that he wasn't even in boxing shit.
Show they got enough control, too, to control that shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 See, if I'm in the hookah spot and Jake Paul get up wilding, I'm I'm getting up to fight.

Speaker 1 If I'm in the hookah spot and Mike Tyson starts wilding, I'm going to the car.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the car. I was in LA.
I was in LA

Speaker 1 when Mike had first got his face tattooed.

Speaker 1 Whatever year that was, but that was the year I just started moving around. So it must have been 01 or 2000 or something like that.
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 And he was in one of them LA restaurants, my first time in LA or one of them, so I didn't know where I was at.

Speaker 1 And he started bugging in there, and it wasn't nothing nobody on the whole strip could do to stop him.

Speaker 1 You just had to wait until he finished.

Speaker 1 Police would be like, Mike, Mike, come on, Mike. Drugger knock, dog, drugger knock.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna call him. Literally,

Speaker 1 the police would be like, Mike, come on, you're right, big guy. Like, yo, dog, and that's that's and listen, y'all young niggas on the internet talking about, yeah, but he's 60 years old.

Speaker 1 Now that I'm 44, I'll tell you, a six in-shaped 60 ain't so far, it ain't, It ain't what you think.

Speaker 1 Like a 60-year-old that's in world-class athlete muscle memory kicks it out. No, that's what I said.
I ain't to say. That's what I was about to say.
A 60-year-old,

Speaker 1 60-year-old Mike Tyson in shape is probably more deadly than most 35-year-old niggas walking around the street. For sure.
Absolutely. By far.
No problem. I've seen a little bit of a shit.

Speaker 1 Like by him sparring and shit. Bruh, and he still looks fat and dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wasn't sparing him.

Speaker 1 He's swinging.

Speaker 1 This nigga fits right here. Nah, he about to do that shit for Costa Matto tonight.

Speaker 1 He's so

Speaker 1 about to do that. What's Rocky Trainer that died? What was Rocky Trainer's name?

Speaker 1 The old nigga.

Speaker 1 Mick Mickey. Mick.

Speaker 1 Young Mickey. Yo, you stupid.
He was like with Apollo Creed, right? Yeah, he do. He joined it for Mick tonight.
I hope so. He slapped Jake Paul, though.
Slapped him right in the face.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jake Paul was...

Speaker 1 He had to sell it, man. Nah, but he was.
I gotta sell a fight.

Speaker 1 I think Mike was upset that he really crawled and shit and stepped underfoot. He selling it, man.
Selling it. That's an insult.
All right, so this is, Corey gives me all the Jake Paul fights.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait,

Speaker 1 he for Anderson Silver. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's when Anderson Silver took that bag. Because who in the world believed that Jake Paul can beat Anderson Silver? In boxing.
Like what it was. In boxing.
In anything.

Speaker 1 In anything. In anything.
All right. That's your opinion.
I'm not trying to take it from you. I don't believe that.
I was outside for all of Anderson Silver and outside of fucking John Jones.

Speaker 1 no, I don't believe that Jake Paul is whipping Anderson Silver. But we got here, Mike Perry, TKO, sixth round.
Ryan Borland, Andre August, all these are wins. Nate Diaz, he lost to Tommy Fury.

Speaker 1 Dub, Anderson Silver, Tyron Woodley, twice dub. Ben Askren, dub.
Nate Robinson, dub. Ali Essengib, dub.

Speaker 1 See, back to our conversation, when you're trying to box for real, Nate Robinson's not going to be on your list. True.
That was early on. But that was early on.
I don't give a fuck when it was.

Speaker 1 I don't care when it was. Nate Robinson won't appear on your resume if you're trying to be a boxer.
Like, we don't have to argue anything. Yeah.
No, I'm not disagreeing.

Speaker 1 Are y'all going to watch this inside or outside?

Speaker 1 Inside.

Speaker 1 Inside. Inside.
Y'all welcome to Corbyn if you want. Outside of what? Outside of the streets, nigga, in the streets.
Oh, you mean orange?

Speaker 1 I thought you meant like outside, nigga.

Speaker 1 Winter here.

Speaker 1 Winter is here. This shit is real outside here.

Speaker 1 Winter is here. This shit is They keep on in the curve.
This shit is different. I was trying to thug it out.
No,

Speaker 1 last night was different. No, yeah.

Speaker 1 That shit said feels like 26. I said, okay, enough.
Y'all win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It had to get that cold for you to cut the heat on.

Speaker 1 When you wake up and see that, oh, I was about to be like, what? Before I didn't say that, shit was real.

Speaker 1 Dropped. Y'all New Yorkers have gotten spoiled with this weather shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I like that.
And, nigga, we old. Shit getting your bones.

Speaker 1 When you was a kid walking to school, it could be 27 degrees. You out there playing with your niggas.
I was outside last night talking to my man. I was in Western Jersey.

Speaker 1 It was colder than I'm like, yo, dog,

Speaker 1 call me.

Speaker 1 I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 Call me. Like, yo, holla at me, my nigga.
I'm gone. Like, this shit is different.
This remote start degrees outside there. He likes to talk.

Speaker 1 That's all. He likes to talk.
You're a fam. Because you were such a recluse.

Speaker 1 I got to get attacked.

Speaker 1 I got to get attacked. No, no.
I don't think it's because I'm a recluse. Right? No.
You talk more than regular.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you talk more. It ain't no more.
More than people. I'm not like a recluse.

Speaker 1 You talk way more than me. I'm not a recluse either.
Whatever y'all say. So? He likes to talk.

Speaker 1 You be saying that shit, bro. You niggas like to talk.

Speaker 1 I'm not. Nobody knocking you for it.
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 No, he said, yo, you doing more talking. That's crazy.
No, you talk some more.

Speaker 1 That's not knocking it. That's not knocking it.
You talk some more.

Speaker 1 Never. Okay, cool.
Never. Say less.
Ain't that much to talk about. There ain't even nothing to talk about, these niggas.

Speaker 1 Nigga, but stop saying that because you be getting into spots and seeing people and having hour conversations with me. Not at all.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 for the rest of the time y'all work here, don't talk about nothing I do outside.

Speaker 1 Because y'all just be saying,

Speaker 1 y'all don't be outside with me. Y'all don't see me.
Y'all don't beat me. Nigga, didn't you? No, I don't.
I've never seen that. I don't do that or seen it.
You just all the time.

Speaker 1 I'm about to be out there. I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 Like, what are they talking about? Just be talking.

Speaker 1 No, but you just said the other day.

Speaker 1 You see the opposite of it, actually.

Speaker 1 Hey, you said the other day I saw somebody and I had a back and a picture. And we talked for like an hour.
Let me take it a step further and make myself clear.

Speaker 1 You don't even talk to the people he's out with sometimes.

Speaker 1 Yo, I barked on that. Nat, I apologize.
I love you.

Speaker 1 I barked on that

Speaker 1 for being in my sect, in the section I'm in and talking to people.

Speaker 1 Don't even talk by me.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. I don't give a fuck how it sounds.
It sounds like I'm an asshole. Niggas that are in a section

Speaker 1 are there

Speaker 1 to not talk to you niggas.

Speaker 1 Net in a section.

Speaker 1 Hugging 10 niggas a minute.

Speaker 1 Hey, how you been? So I got to stand there and look at all these doofy niggas. Move.
Move. Talk to them niggas when you go to the bathroom.
Don't talk to these niggas around me.

Speaker 1 That's me.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry, buddy. I'm not with talk.
Move. Talk over there.

Speaker 1 I feel feel you, though. Yeah, I'm not against that.

Speaker 1 I'm not against that. Against what? And again, now I'm sorry.
I'm against how you handle it, but I'm not against feeling that way.

Speaker 1 Dog, I podcasted. I love to feel how you feel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm against how you handled it. He should just act in the yo, go out there and go talk to them niggas.

Speaker 1 Well, because then you're also bringing a bunch of strangers

Speaker 1 into the circle. I get it.
But no, yeah,

Speaker 1 please. And now they want to pod with you.

Speaker 1 Dog, God, yeah. Dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I ain't even giving the entryway for it.
Yo, I know flipping it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nah, that's spy. I ain't.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.
I don't give a fuck. Sorry.

Speaker 1 I got to meet him. You got to stand there with him.
True. If you introduce me, hey, I'll act like we, oh, hey, any friend of his is a friend of mine.
That's mine. I'm so phony.
You get mixed up.

Speaker 1 Hey, you good with him? You good with mine. Hey, come bring it in.
Y'all many personalities? But if you ain't that, nigga. How many personalities you got? Like, like two, three?

Speaker 1 Oh, we parting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now we cooking with some grease.

Speaker 1 How many personalities?

Speaker 1 Because at first, initially, when I first came around, I thought that. Then I brought people around.
You was extremely nice. Then it gave me a different view.
Then I was outside with you.

Speaker 1 I was like, yo, Joe, you ignored everybody in there. So I'm saying, is it three personalities?

Speaker 3 But wait, why do you bring them around him? In here?

Speaker 1 I did. Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's different.

Speaker 3 He's on home turf here.

Speaker 1 I'm the same way. Again, what's an ish? Why are you tapping me? What happened?

Speaker 1 Because he'd see them same niggas that he hugged in here and paid for the calamari in here and not say hi to them niggas outside.

Speaker 3 That is a fact.

Speaker 1 Same motherfucker. That's fucking fact.
Hey, even further. He deserved whatever he was coming with.
Look, the dude that he said.

Speaker 1 Because they're going to come over with him like, hey, Joe. And you're like, look, look, look, flip.
The same one he said, if you introduce him next to him, oh, if you good with him, you good with me.

Speaker 1 When they're not next to you no more, next week. Next week.

Speaker 1 You ain't there no more, dog. Sometimes it dude will be hard to remember a motherfucker, though.
They do. That's different.
I also don't expect to see none of y'all peoples when I'm out.

Speaker 1 Know when I've seen Park's best friend, Brian?

Speaker 1 With the Parks. With Parks.
With Parks.

Speaker 1 With Parks. I don't know if I'm the warmest, if he's just out and about.

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe, it's Brian.

Speaker 1 I I would say, hey, it's Brian, but it wouldn't be

Speaker 1 Brian's pretty cool, actually.

Speaker 1 Parks like Parks people. Park's got cool people.
Yeah, just people's cool. Yeah, I like Parks people.
Oh, thanks, guys. I don't like Project.

Speaker 1 All right, we got it. We got it.
We got it. Leave him alone when you see my side.
Don't say what up to him, nigga. Just, I respect that.
I mean, that's old school rules.

Speaker 1 Don't say what up because he's not your friend.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're my friend. Strengthening boundaries.
I agree. You can always strengthen boundaries.
That's all I got, man. I hate to make myself sound like that on here.
I want to appear friendlier.

Speaker 1 We don't want to. I want to appear friendly.
But y'all, I tell these things to y'all, and people I feel like have to love me unconditionally.

Speaker 1 But the other people, I don't feel like they should know that. Let me get my front on.

Speaker 1 You do not want to appear. You don't want to, yeah.
Because that comes with something. I know.
If you appear friendlier,

Speaker 1 then people are going to approach you as if you are friendly. I know.
And I'll dead it.

Speaker 1 So, why do you want to appear friendly? You got it, bro. Because I don't think that millions of people should.
It comes off me. And I'm not mean.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 All right. This shit is gone.
You're not in my head.

Speaker 1 You're not.

Speaker 1 When we start seeing the math from a beautiful mind, just tweak on it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just fucked around and found out. Yeah, how's this nigga? Charlie at the map.
Yeah. Charlie got it.

Speaker 1 yo.

Speaker 1 Do any of y'all know why they're killing Skye Jackson's baby daddy? No.

Speaker 1 Because he ain't rich? No, not because he's rich. I said because he ain't rich.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And he doing bullshit out here, but you know, no matter who you are, you can be Sky Jackson, you can be Latoya Jackson, any type of Jackson.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the fly bitches or the bitches that's about something or where they come from, they like bum niggas. Not saying he's a bum, but they like niggas that's into some shit.
They like that.

Speaker 1 I think it's something in women that feel like they can save a man.

Speaker 1 I could save him. I could change his life.
And niggas just be on some bum shit.

Speaker 1 I won't say that, but people do like projects. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 I'll try to save a couple. Security.
Oh, please.

Speaker 1 Pause me for single it out. People like projects and shit like that.
And

Speaker 1 he just got locked up, right? He just got locked up.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if she's pregnant by him.

Speaker 1 It's just nasty. Man shit coming about this nigga.
I don't know his name. Mad shit is coming out about this young man, and it looks crazy.
And I kind of respect the game. He got her.

Speaker 1 Nah, that nigga is looking like Crash Out Central. Crash Bandicoot, nigga.

Speaker 1 Oh, for real, nigga. That nigga look crazy.

Speaker 1 This other nigga came out.

Speaker 1 Who is that?

Speaker 1 The Nigay dude came out out of them. What? What? Wait.
Excuse me? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Out of them. Yeah.
Oh, man. Scott Jackson Baby Daddy has had a lot going on this week.
You know that because we don't talk about Scott Jackson or her baby daddy on the show. She said it.

Speaker 1 They had a lot lot going on to do it. I've read that they became friends through pen pals or something.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 3 I'm just pen pal, like a jail program? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 He was one. That's not what a pen pal means.
Well,

Speaker 1 she's putting a right to hisself. Exposed herself.
Exposed herself.

Speaker 1 That's not what

Speaker 1 she got.

Speaker 1 I mean, today. It could be a pen pal.
Yeah. Pen pal.
A pen pal has nothing to do with jail. No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 But there are pen pal programs through penitentiaries. Yes, and you clearly have been a part of some.
You look like you're going to pen pal programs. She has.

Speaker 1 She admitted that she was a film. Yeah, she had a pen pal.
She had to get back.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. She had to get it back.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo,

Speaker 1 real quick, Mel, on you, I just saw a. She's going to try anything but just be okay.
I just saw.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 She's going to try anything but just be a good woman.

Speaker 3 Make it make sense.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? You know what? These niggas out here say, no, I'm getting out of jail, pen pal. I ain't got a show of him.

Speaker 1 You're such a dick. Would you get paid for that? What? For writing niggas in jail.
Community service shit to pay back your debts to society.

Speaker 1 For all them felonies. This was like a million years ago.
I had a pen pal.

Speaker 3 It was like 25 years ago. Maybe, no, more.

Speaker 1 It was like 30.

Speaker 1 Did he ever come home? I don't know.

Speaker 2 Wrote a couple of times.

Speaker 1 You had a 17-year-old pen pal? That's before Cat Lady was a thing.

Speaker 1 hold on

Speaker 2 28 years ago thanks for doing the math would you do it today

Speaker 1 would you do it today

Speaker 1 she mad that a nigga did the math uh no i don't think so no not not today got it got it got it yeah

Speaker 1 got a lot on my plate right now so you never wrote to the women the the women in jail no

Speaker 3 no i did not

Speaker 1 you ought to not be nowguys

Speaker 1 and i'm and and my heart goes out to anybody here who has a lot in their plate right now.

Speaker 1 If there's any way that I can help, hit me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's nice. Yeah, that's nice.
We'll talk after this.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Just go ahead, man. Hey, we got you.

Speaker 1 I got you. I got you, champ.
Oh, it's your champ.

Speaker 1 Champ.

Speaker 1 It's like when my girl called me superstar. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, Oh, that's different.

Speaker 1 We got it. That's nasty.
That's nasty.

Speaker 1 That's dead. That's your works.
I'm like, yo, stop playing. Stop playing.
Don't call me superstar or joke. All right.
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Speaker 1 All right, what you got for us, Flip? So I was watching a video and Goldfinger was talking about.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Goldfinger. Shout out to Goldfinger.

Speaker 1 The night that, the only night in New York City.

Speaker 1 Where they played back-to-back. They played the Jay-Z and Nas, Ether, Super Ugly,

Speaker 1 TakeOver, all that.

Speaker 1 And one thing that stuck out to me was saying that Melissa Ford was bartending that night. This Melissa Ford? This Melissa Ford.

Speaker 3 I was actually waitressing. Waitressing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they said she was bartending, and you were part of a lot of history. I was.
And niggas need to give you a credit. Thank you.
You always find it out.

Speaker 1 No, because they sent it to me.

Speaker 1 The clip is circulating. Thank you, Mel.
Oh, wow. Were you viral? Finally, Mel.

Speaker 1 You viral out there? The clip is circulating.

Speaker 1 Take that, Dr. Ruth Ann, Anna Shishka Heisler.
Were you in the how did it feel that night, Mel?

Speaker 3 It felt like

Speaker 3 chaos was two floors, and it felt like all of us on the second floor that the floor was going to collapse. Like it was,

Speaker 3 it was electrifying. It was,

Speaker 3 you knew that it was a historical moment. You could feel it, you know?

Speaker 3 And it's just like, it's the kind of thing where you look around at everybody that's there and everybody's kind of like absorbing the same thing and knowing that this is a moment that will be recorded for history.

Speaker 3 Gotcha. The shit, it was, it was fucking epic.
Everybody came to chaos. Like, everybody.
It was so dope. It was so dope.
Those are really, really, really, really good days.

Speaker 1 Maybe video evictions do contribute a lot to hip-hop.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. There we go.
I'm just.

Speaker 3 I'm not touching it. Not with a 10-foot fucking pole.

Speaker 1 What the fuck was that?

Speaker 1 The fact that they acknowledge that. Mine was worse than

Speaker 1 I just thought it was dope, man. Melissa Ford.
Would you say you're an industry plant? Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 In what way?

Speaker 3 How would I be an industry plant?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fly.

Speaker 1 I'm asking.

Speaker 1 I'm not concluding. I'm asking.
What the fuck? Your story is

Speaker 1 Little X and Hype Williams and who else?

Speaker 1 Another one of them big, big, big, big, big names.

Speaker 3 No, it was X.

Speaker 1 So it was X.

Speaker 3 Discovered me kind of thing?

Speaker 1 Discovered. Yes.
There's that plant word.

Speaker 1 Discovered you in Canada somewhere just as a pretty girl.

Speaker 3 In Toronto, yes.

Speaker 1 Brought you back here and put you next to every hot rapper in every hot video because he had them all.

Speaker 3 No, that's not how it worked. That wasn't how it worked.
X was on the come up.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 he was still...

Speaker 1 He was still. X was Hype Williams' mentor.
I mean,

Speaker 1 mentee.

Speaker 3 A lot of people think that.

Speaker 3 A lot of people think that. So he was, Hype Williams had a company called Big Dog Films.
And what X was doing, he was doing a lot of storyboarding, but he wasn't getting like the really big projects.

Speaker 3 And if you ask X who really put him on and gave him his first really big opportunity, it was Miss Ford. It was Tim's story.
He's sarcastic.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So like, that's just, you know, what X has always said.
So,

Speaker 3 you know, when I started doing music videos, it wasn't for massive names at the time.

Speaker 1 Because your first video was what?

Speaker 3 My first, my very,

Speaker 3 my very first video was a Glenn Lewis video.

Speaker 1 Oh? Yeah. So you're a plant.

Speaker 3 I'm not a plant. I got literally, I got discovered and then, you know, X used me.

Speaker 3 No, X used me and then hype used me and that was...

Speaker 1 That's a plant.

Speaker 3 It's not a plant. I was one of several girls from Canada that were used consistently in music videos and big name music videos.
That's just, we grew with X.

Speaker 1 That's a cactus.

Speaker 1 I'm succulent.

Speaker 1 That's a cactus.

Speaker 1 Don't touch it and you're going to get stuck. It's something.
Yo, you're stupid. Yo, somebody she changed the game.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing where you see like one of these newer rappers with their producer. They come in the game together, get hot, and the producer go on to get hot.

Speaker 1 The rapper going, it's kind of the same shit to me.

Speaker 1 Because if X wasn't X at the time,

Speaker 1 they're both on the come up. He just had to have happened to have a Melissa Fulbert who wasn't Melissa Ford at the time.
They came up together.

Speaker 3 My first American video was Tommy's theme from the belly soundtrack.

Speaker 3 And that was The Locks That Made Man.

Speaker 1 I don't see it as a plan.

Speaker 1 That was your first what?

Speaker 3 That was my first American video.

Speaker 1 That's my shit right there.

Speaker 3 And then three days later, I got the call from Hype's people to go do 112 Anywhere.

Speaker 3 But I mean, like, it's casting directors that, you know, booked for X and booked for height.

Speaker 1 I just don't think they use plant when it comes to video victims.

Speaker 3 Because there is no plant. Like, then the industry is.
She's just a pretty. And also, the industry did not plant us because they didn't concern themselves with us.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Don't try to victim this out.

Speaker 3 No, it's not that. It's just like

Speaker 3 we were casted and that was it. That was basically, that was basically it.

Speaker 1 There was no assumption that we were going to get in.

Speaker 1 Were you always casted? Sometimes they called you and said, We want you in this video, or you're going to be in this video. You want to be in the video.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, that's being, that's being, I guess that's being casted.

Speaker 1 I thought casted is going. Okay.
I don't think a conversation about that started with her being a waitress. I think that kind of

Speaker 1 says that you're not a plant. A little bit.
You're still working, like a regular job.

Speaker 3 Right, exactly. When I got here, you know, I had to supplement income.
I was also a legal as fuck. So I needed a job that you're working on that now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Progress. One day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Perfect timing, too.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to center Mel anymore. What I will say is, boy, y'all should have seen the look on Imani's face when Flowrider came in that karaoke joint.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 You're not

Speaker 1 going to defend yourself. That's hate.

Speaker 1 That nigga Flowrider came in there, went to his little spot.

Speaker 1 Nigga, he looked at me and said,

Speaker 1 He do, he did.

Speaker 1 That's what that nigga said.

Speaker 1 You was right.

Speaker 1 We got to get Flowride out of New York City.

Speaker 1 He was moving like that. You said that.
Yeah, nigga.

Speaker 1 Y'all saw moving, man. Shining, just glowing, smiling.

Speaker 1 I'm such a messy brick.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn. I don't know why they called you Sten Diesel.

Speaker 1 Flow gave it in with some muscles. You don't sit there like, I'm stupid.
I'm going to tell him.

Speaker 1 I said, nah, I think he bought a crib out of you.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, the glow. No, you might not be.

Speaker 1 Bruce Leroy. I respect what he is.
He has Spruce Leroy.

Speaker 1 What color was his aura? I give respect to niggas. Green.

Speaker 1 He had green aura.

Speaker 1 And 89.

Speaker 1 I mean, people flocked around him. I told you when we saw him, I saw him at the restaurant.
Everybody was around the nigga table. He was just smiling, happy, mad, generous.

Speaker 1 I said my little joke to him. That was my sister.
He said, oh, I love her piece. She's great.

Speaker 3 And stop doing that shit.

Speaker 2 I did that one.

Speaker 1 Stopping being

Speaker 1 a dance in the sky.

Speaker 1 Well, no, let me not say that part. But I don't say that anymore.
That was a long time ago, man. We knew we got past that.
Okay. Okay.
I thought of somebody else

Speaker 1 in the club, too, when they come inside. It may not be Flowrider, but that was funny, but

Speaker 1 I don't think people talk about Tyson Chan enough.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 2 That's what I got.

Speaker 1 Tyson Chan. Say something.
Any one of y'all, say something. I dare you.

Speaker 3 He's a tough night for y'all.

Speaker 1 I'm speaking only for me. Yeah, he's speaking for himself.
I'm speaking for me.

Speaker 1 Shit. My man said, nah, you ain't talking for him.
No, I'm speaking for me. I can't speak fools and tough outfit.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He's too tall. He's too tall.
You see it? Huh? He's too tall. Has this ever.

Speaker 3 Wait, he's too tall? Like, what do you mean, too tall? Too tall for who?

Speaker 1 A lot.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 This is your question.

Speaker 1 This is your question.

Speaker 3 Like, what is he?

Speaker 1 Like, six, six?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Seven, two. Yo, you never answer that question.
I mean, we crack jokes, and Joe always says, who's a tough knife for you? But

Speaker 1 you never acknowledge who's a tough night for you we've sat near had fucking

Speaker 1 what a lot of niggas was tough a lot

Speaker 1 a lot

Speaker 1 like a lot I've been outside a long time it was a lot of niggas that Felipe Lopez

Speaker 1 was Tyson Beckford

Speaker 1 Tyson was tough was Tyson Beckford a tough night for y'all Tyson was tough in his day like Tyson was him

Speaker 1 Tyson was tougher than a lot of and Tyson is New York grown so Tyson was tough, bro. Like, fuck.

Speaker 1 That nigga was, yo, because the and that nigga could, he was like,

Speaker 1 he was just floating in different circles. Like, he was floating in different circles.
Like, that nigga was in the bougie parties.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, he was in the bougie shit. So you think you could get away from the athlete niggas in the bougie shit.
Here come this nigga, squinty eyes with tattoos.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of here, man. Take your joints.
That nigga was a monster.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We bumped heads a lot.
Yeah, that nigga was a monster.

Speaker 1 I give a nigga credit. I don't have no problem with that.
Nigga had to up the talk game, right?

Speaker 1 Nigga had to up the talk. That's what forced him to be the talker than he.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Don't go to that bathroom. Don't go to that bathroom.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can, nigga. You fucking right, nigga.
Don't go to that bathroom.

Speaker 1 Nigga, them niggas was outside what Tyson had a car that

Speaker 1 I don't know what the name of that shit was.

Speaker 1 You remember what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Tyson.

Speaker 1 Beckford had this funny car, my nigga.

Speaker 1 It was some shit I never heard of.

Speaker 1 The import the GTR. It was some foreign

Speaker 1 foreign shit that ain't nobody around here have. He was the first person I seen with that GTR shit.
Like, yo, that nigga was a problem, bro.

Speaker 1 I can't say nothing bad about him. He was always a cool nigga.
Now he cool as shit.

Speaker 1 No, look, so you cool. You want to cover every fucking magazine on the planet.

Speaker 1 Fuck are we talking about? That nigga was a problem.

Speaker 1 I mean, so, yeah. You got to start chatting.
Got to talk a little bit. Listen, listen up.

Speaker 1 What you might do in a day

Speaker 1 might take me two months. The ultimate route salon.
Hey, yo, man. Sean, Sean Steady wins the ring.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about, nigga?

Speaker 1 Is there anything in music that you guys would like to discuss?

Speaker 1 It was a lot of music that came out today.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 I don't know any of it.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything. Cash out drop.
Cashed out drop. Cash down drop.
Congrats.

Speaker 1 Cordade.

Speaker 1 I tried to. Yeah, I got it.
That little bit through. I need to get to that.
That shit sounds good. Let's do it one time.
No deep dive, but

Speaker 1 very

Speaker 1 little brother to J. Cole and early Kanye vibes.
Ooh, yummy. Yeah.
Great. Yeah.
Sounds like a treat. Yeah.
A lot of dope bars. Wayne's on there twice.
Ye's on there, actually.

Speaker 1 Juicy J ties. It's a really solid project.
Shout out to Corday, man. Yeah, man, for sure.
I've been wanting to get with him, but I'll hear the album on my own, see what's going on, see what's popping.

Speaker 1 I know know some heat on there. Word was getting around town that it was one of those.
So, again, I will check that out. Shout out to Corday.
Yeah. What other music?

Speaker 1 Jay Wan dropped the EP with Seth Gnarly. Sounded really good from what I heard.

Speaker 1 A-Rab and Dave East dropped a project.

Speaker 1 There's a Merry project out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 07-0 Shake, Max O'Cream dropped, friend of the show. Hey.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of, no, like, gigantic release, but a lot of good music came up. I didn't get to sift through all of it yet, but.
I need to hear what Maxo's talking about and Shake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Corday.

Speaker 1 And Jaywan.

Speaker 1 Nah, he worked here.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to listen to that. I hear that nigga every week.

Speaker 1 I'm cool.

Speaker 1 That was definitely a. Oh, yeah, that nigga every week.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I'd like new snow Allegra music. It's tough.
It's definitely tough. Her.

Speaker 1 Hmm? Her.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm waiting for.

Speaker 1 Both of them. Goes outside saying to me.
Yeah, both of them.

Speaker 3 You know who's working on some new music?

Speaker 3 A. Marie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw the clip.

Speaker 1 I saw the clip.

Speaker 1 She in there with, she in there with.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Got a brain freeze. Rich Harrison?

Speaker 1 Troy Taylor. No, not Rich Harrison.
Troy Taylor. Huh? Troy Taylor.
Yes, sir. There we go.
Yeah, she in there with Troy. Okay.
That means it's heat.

Speaker 1 And it sounded like heat that little clip that went on. It did.
It did. It did sound like heat.
Shout out to A. Marie.
Shout out to A. Marie, man.

Speaker 1 All right. Did y'all see the footage floating around of the altercation with Offset and him in Paris? Yes.
I did. Who is playing with it?

Speaker 1 I don't know how true the story is. You know, with social media, you get bits and pieces.

Speaker 1 Apparently, there was an artist out there in Paris that paid Offset. to

Speaker 1 for a feature and video appearance, et cetera.

Speaker 1 He wasn't happy with what he got. Now I'm hearing that offset showed up late, like really late, and they wanted some money back,

Speaker 1 but he didn't want to give him any money back and a fight broke out. Yeah, you're not getting no money back.

Speaker 1 Hold on. If I pay you to do something

Speaker 1 and we agree on, yo, this time, this, this, it's contracted.

Speaker 1 I gave you whatever deposit you required and you didn't uphold your end,

Speaker 1 how'd that work? Or if I paid you the whole thing to get you out here,

Speaker 1 I don't get nothing. Talk to Handler or something like that.
You beat, nigga. It's like, nah, no, you beat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, he was out. He was outnumbered.
I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, supposedly they said he showed up like two hours, three hours late to the video spot. And they said the dude didn't want all the money back.

Speaker 1 He wanted like either some compensation or something like with the time. Because I guess they might have had the video crew for a certain amount of time, whatever case may be to offset his losses.

Speaker 1 No pun intended but

Speaker 1 They wasn't with it all sales are final nigga all sales are final and when you're dealing with someone that's like a star on that level you got to leave some room for some charge

Speaker 1 but nigga don't know you like that nigga you up and coming nigga

Speaker 1 I mean we respect the French artist Beyonce is not the only one that gets I'm just saying

Speaker 1 You don't know him.

Speaker 1 Even though there should be respect in the work, I do agree with that.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, you should give yourself enough leeway and room for these things to happen you should it so let's just say hypothetically i don't know but let's just say he shows up three four hours late you can't necessarily plan that into my whole video cruise time and everybody's time you you ain't controlling the everybody's time in in in the event that the the the the feature is late how big they say the retard

Speaker 1 videos is to that artist it could be big as shit yeah some niggas on my bread right now and it's a feature in paris i got offset on my shit. We're shooting a video.
I paid him. True.

Speaker 3 Had he already done the feature?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He might have already did the audio, but the video. Yeah, that's what I meant.

Speaker 3 That's what I meant.

Speaker 1 Be important.

Speaker 1 Some niggas is just late. They complain about the rock being late all the time, nigga.
For movie productions, eight hours late. Some niggas is just late.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 I mean, all right.

Speaker 1 Listen. Sorry.

Speaker 1 No, and the other side of that be kind of like you just said, Flip. Don't nobody know you.
Niggas take advantage of the little man. Like, y'all

Speaker 1 know the fuck out of here. And I'm shit.
All my shit. Nigga, I'm me.
What you going to do? I know. I'm somebody out here.

Speaker 1 And that's sometimes the rudiment.

Speaker 1 And they showed him. Oh, yes.
They showed him. They were punching his man all in his head.
You know, officer, like, that's my man. You're hitting my man.

Speaker 1 Oh, they can't hit you because you're security holding you down. They don't.
And shout out to security. Because he tried to get it.
He tried his hardest to get away from security.

Speaker 1 Security wasn't letting him out. I mean,

Speaker 1 he got his shit in.

Speaker 1 He wanted to jump in. I respected it, but I ain't like the security shit.
shit. Nigga,

Speaker 1 security job is to protect the artists. Protect the money.
That's the job. The money, whoever the money is.

Speaker 1 This man was getting punched in the head, kicked. All type of shit they were doing with his man.
They threw the girl on the floor. All type of shit them niggas.
We're not hired to protect you.

Speaker 1 We are hired to protect you. That's my problem.
Nigga, you protect all of us, nigga. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Now we go leave to get your man, and now something happened to you because now we're going to be saying

Speaker 1 security was off their job. It depends on who paid the security.
I ravage this kitchen. Nigga, the security, go fight them, nigga, and let me get away.
You go fight them niggas.

Speaker 1 Go on the line and fight them niggas. They beating up my man.
You saw they did this man. I'm agreeing with this man.
They picked the man

Speaker 1 up. Was punching his man in the head? Nah.
I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 I got to go back home with these niggas.

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all, Key. The label might have paid for that security, dude.

Speaker 1 The label don't know. What happened? The label don't know Kit Kat or Shauna.
They don't know them.

Speaker 1 They don't know them.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I'm protecting protecting the investment, him. And that's that.
But thoughts and prayers? Yeah, thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 1 Give them niggas their money back.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they lucky they got out of there. We see

Speaker 1 that. Niggas ain't get out of there.

Speaker 1 Brab your ass up.

Speaker 1 We heard a lot of stories of

Speaker 1 the UK. Yeah.
No, no, I'm not. He don't talk about.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So. Damn, now that was one of the greatest moments.
That was funny, son. That was funny.
Stop, man. Stop, please.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is wrong with you, bro?

Speaker 1 That's when you decide to come in and talk? Hey, yo, that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to come in here and make you put on a dash that ish hat.

Speaker 1 Put your hat on, nigga.

Speaker 1 Put that hat on. Wear it straight.
Turn it, nigga.

Speaker 1 You have to actually bring the hat. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Bring it up. He still gets the hoodie.
No, it's in my car. Yo, ish.

Speaker 1 Go down and get the hoodie.

Speaker 1 Go talk to the hoodie, bro.

Speaker 1 You said you bought the hoodie. It was been in my car for a week.

Speaker 3 You know, you can go get it right now.

Speaker 1 Go down and get the hoodie, ish. It's like...
Go get that nigga the hoodie, bro. He didn't park in Timbuktu.

Speaker 1 He parked next to me. Get the hoodie.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Nigga gave you your money and all that.
Word, we was on Joe to give you a bread because we thought you gave me a hoodie.

Speaker 1 I'm about to diss all of y'all because y'all wasn't on Joe to give me my bread.

Speaker 1 Y'all brought the bread up one time. When I owed y'all money, y'all niggas was in concert up here like y'all was the Rockettes.
Give him his money. We, we.
Give him his money, we, we.

Speaker 1 That nigga owed me money for months. Y'all niggas ain't saying fucking peek.
I said right here,

Speaker 1 hey, Joe, can he get his bread? Like the four tops of this.

Speaker 1 One, two, three, four. Yeah, the four top.
I literally said, hey, Joe, can he get his bread? He said, you know what? Yes.

Speaker 1 Ice made it happen or no? Ice made it happen. I'm about 20%, man.

Speaker 2 I got you.

Speaker 1 Fuck out of here. Look at that nigga's hoodie issue.
Like, when you get a little breakfast, go downstairs.

Speaker 1 Do I already hand it to nigga? Oh, man, you niggas is something else, boy. I ain't gonna even get into it.
It's cool. You got it.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas need pom-poms. I'm gonna bring some up here, too.
That's some little Hulu skirts. That's crazy, son.

Speaker 1 Can I get a G, G!

Speaker 1 Can I get a O!

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna bring them up here for y'all.

Speaker 1 What do you think about all this?

Speaker 1 I think you enter in a slip, slippery slope when you

Speaker 1 start asking for money back due to tardiness in the music business. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It makes sense.

Speaker 1 But some of these niggas. I can't speak to the culture over there.
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know what happens. But you can speak to the culture here.
That might be brown. That might be brown paper.

Speaker 1 That might be brown

Speaker 1 over here. That might be brown paper bag money.
And to some niggas, to get a feature of that magnitude, it might have been really expensive. Brown paper bag rules out the window when offset walks in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or when you're trying to book offset or anybody of that stature.
You know how it is when when you get like a nice car and now it's more expensive to maintain the car.

Speaker 1 I just hear like if you get someone that is of a certain ilk, it's gonna be some shit that comes along with it. You have to go, you have to fulfill their rider.
Yeah, so true, true, true.

Speaker 1 So if you fulfilled it, let's say you fulfilled it. And you're gonna sit there and wait.
Have y'all ever heard the Calend story of Rihanna doing Wild Thoughts? No. Nah.

Speaker 1 Went to the studio and spent the night.

Speaker 1 And every hour they said, yo, she's coming. She's coming.
And she's coming. She's walking at 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 And then you still got to wait. Do you want your hit? Absolutely.
Thousand percent. Or do you not? No, I'm agreeing with that.

Speaker 1 You got to have your ego and pounce the nigga up top the head, but all right, now you ain't, what you got? I'm not, again, I'm not disagreeing with none of that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying you're talking about two industry people, right? Rihanna's industry, Cal's industry, like it is. All said is industry.
I know, but the other nigga might not be.

Speaker 1 Well, here's your first lesson. Once one industry person enters, industry rules have entered.

Speaker 1 Yeah, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 I can see if he didn't show up at all, then yeah, that's a different evidently not because his man got his ass whipped.

Speaker 1 So they wasn't on industry time, they was on real people time where I spent my real money to get this real artist that should have shown up and done what he was supposed to do for real.

Speaker 1 Again, I said I can't speak for the culture out there.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 There's probably a loss of translation. And truthfully,

Speaker 1 depending on how dude responded to to that,

Speaker 1 how we got to this asshole. That's possible.
It could literally just have been, man, fuck out of here. Like, the disrespect, like, could have said, we don't know you.

Speaker 1 You some little nigga that just, nigga, I'm geared, nigga. I could have walked in with my ego.
Oh, now you disrespected niggas.

Speaker 1 And it has to be checked. Because

Speaker 1 when he was by the van or whatever he was, the niggas was going over there like trying to attack offset. You know what I'm saying? So, like, y'all doing all this aggressive shit.

Speaker 1 Even if there was a conversation to be had, I'm not going to have a conversation now.

Speaker 1 It might have been a conversation to have. I'm about to have a conversation to have already.

Speaker 1 Conversation to be leaving. Like, fuck out of here.
I'm out. Like, oh,

Speaker 1 what? Fuck out of here. Fuck y'all niggas.
No, no, fuck who?

Speaker 1 Niggas, niggas. Niggas are a weight game.
Yo, hip-hop, hip-hop, and it's

Speaker 1 everything.

Speaker 1 Typically, the people inside of hip-hop. had one foot in the street and one foot out.

Speaker 1 And sometimes that one foot could be two feet deep. You never know the people.

Speaker 1 And then that's their exit. That's true for some.
I'm not disagreeing with you. It's definitely a way to.
I'm not condoning it. You get what I'm saying? I'm not saying that it's cool.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, everybody not gonna handle certain shit the same way. Everybody built differently.
I'll tell you what else is gonna happen.

Speaker 1 It's gonna make it real difficult to get another feature from an American

Speaker 1 artist.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 Grand opening, grand closing on that one, probably. For sure.

Speaker 1 Depends. I agree.
I agree with Parker. If you have the money.

Speaker 1 Listen, nigga. Shout out out to MC Grateful Pond.

Speaker 1 MC Grateful Pond.

Speaker 1 You shit my pet. Stop.
Yo, y'all niggas are hard.

Speaker 1 I fuck with them. Niggas remember.
They stop, bro. I ain't going out there.
You don't tell me on Palmer. I'm fucking with niggas out there nowhere.
The tariffs. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Niggas mad at the tariffs. Niggas is hot.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, yo.

Speaker 1 Speaking of tariffs,

Speaker 1 New York State has purchased Dame Dash's

Speaker 1 portion of whatever that was. One-third, yeah.
Interest.

Speaker 1 They bought a steak.

Speaker 1 Didn't they say the auction was supposed to start at two? Two mil or something? I think it was one, yeah. It was one.
Okay, well, I know they bought it for one. It was one.

Speaker 1 But I didn't have no takers. They said it was two other bids.
Once Hove came out and said, go ahead.

Speaker 1 One bid was for $233 and the other one was for like $250. Those are the two bids.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then New York State bought it.

Speaker 1 New York State got it for a million.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 apparently they had like people pull it together to get it. It wasn't direct, like, they can sell it and it's not a risk to them for whatever they get for it.
Got it.

Speaker 1 You know what that means?

Speaker 1 Jay-Z

Speaker 1 called somebody to call somebody to call somebody and say, yo, give niggas a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Could be.

Speaker 1 It's a write-off for him, dog.

Speaker 1 Let me get that true cost of doing business.

Speaker 3 But isn't he going to own it anyways in like four to six years?

Speaker 1 They said six years, and then somebody said it's a rumor, but I don't know. I don't know that Joe and Parks will have to speak to that.
I don't know. I just wouldn't go

Speaker 1 with that shit on me. Guess what?

Speaker 1 When you own that thing, yo,

Speaker 1 you're gonna repurpose that shit. You can do a whole bunch of other shit with it.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 So, you got any plans for that? I ain't gonna lie to y'all. For what when you when you get pumped up back

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 like i know you think far ahead so

Speaker 1 i've added it to my asset list if that's what you're asking no just meant like something like yo now that i have it i have control i could i might look to do xyz with it have you thought put any thought into that no if i did i'd have re-recorded it already

Speaker 1 why though yeah

Speaker 1 I'm saying when it finally comes to your possession, right? When it finally is said and done, and it comes into your possession, then I don't know how it works. This is a question, curiosity.

Speaker 1 Like, so when the Knicks play it or when whoever plays it, is that now all of your spanking?

Speaker 1 Yes, but that's also someone actively working

Speaker 1 on music. Oh, got you, got you, got you.

Speaker 1 To get it, to get it.

Speaker 1 To get it played. You ain't just here and pump it up like this by chance all these years later.
That's somebody back there working it. Yeah, true.
Oh, okay. See, I didn't know that side.

Speaker 1 I'm just thinking they saw it. So when it comes back to me,

Speaker 1 that person will no longer be working it, or that group will no longer be working, and that's totally up to me. Now, when the phone rings, I'm taking the call.
Gotcha. Got it.

Speaker 1 But in terms of will I continue to actively try to work pump it up.

Speaker 1 I probably haven't thought about that. Yeah.
Okay. Maybe.
Scarce.

Speaker 1 What? Nah, I like it. I mean, you know, I'll get on the phone for a couple.
Yeah, you haven't even.

Speaker 1 You know, we know. You know? You know what I'm saying? You know, we know.
We used to get on the phone just to talk to them. Step it up 15.

Speaker 1 Yo, how was your day yesterday?

Speaker 1 Three hours later, yo, it's so how'd it go? Oh, oh, we ain't talking about it.

Speaker 1 I'm still on the phone with them now. Hold on.
Crush groove part four. We in that bitch.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? This is nothing. We in there.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Especially personally, you just want to talk to people.

Speaker 1 Juice part two.

Speaker 3 Do you think that you'd sound the same if you tried to re-record it now?

Speaker 1 No, I know I would not sound the same. Okay.

Speaker 1 You think I still sound like I'm 22?

Speaker 3 I mean, I wondered if you thought that you still sounded like you were 22.

Speaker 1 You think I'm that delusional?

Speaker 3 Sometimes Dululu is the Sululu.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a good place.

Speaker 3 Sometimes it's a good place to be.

Speaker 1 How do you envision yourself being when you enter a home, a nursing facility?

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Bam. I'm asking them.

Speaker 1 I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 I have actually thought about that.

Speaker 3 I have actually thought about that. But me and my girls have a plan to create our own retirement village.

Speaker 1 I know. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah. That's fine, man.
Like Boosie's backyard?

Speaker 3 Like overseas.

Speaker 1 And just hire a bunch of young niggas to come take care of y'all. Bam.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. So like a broth.

Speaker 1 No, not necessarily.

Speaker 1 Do they sign NDAs? That's funny. A system.

Speaker 1 That's funny. Do they sign NDAs, man? I mean, at that point, it won't even matter.
If you want to talk that shit, hey, I don't care. I'm old as fuck.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm on my way out.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
Mel's.

Speaker 1 Have you figured out where? Will y'all want to do that? Bali.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 there's a few places. We have been talking.
Thailand, Bali, Italy.

Speaker 1 And you still don't answer. Like, what age do you cons do y'all see that being a realistic thing? I made some calls recently to see about moving this whole podcast to Florida.
I did. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, enough was enough. Just to start just seeing what's going on out here.
But then they said, did you have to actually live in Florida for more than half the year to get the perks? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did that. Yeah, same with everyone.
And they're tracing you. Yes.

Speaker 3 They are. Everyone thinks that I get free health care because I'm Canadian.
I'm like, I have to live in Canada for more than six months out of the year to be able to take advantage of the benefits.

Speaker 3 I can't.

Speaker 1 And they monitor all of that.

Speaker 3 Taxes.

Speaker 1 So you couldn't get a place out there and just... No.

Speaker 1 If you get a place out there, you have to stay there for more than half of the year. Nigga, what you got to do?

Speaker 1 How would they know, though? You got Corey, nigga. How would they know if you stayed there? Like, you mean, like, what have you not posted?

Speaker 1 How would they know physically that

Speaker 1 it's deeper than your Instagram? No, no, I'm just like, I get what you're saying. They know all of the tracking systems that they have in Canada.
They do, he's right, where you are. Okay.

Speaker 1 If any card in your name is popping up,

Speaker 1 they're monitoring. Yeah, they're protecting their shit.

Speaker 1 Just a question?

Speaker 1 I was shocked too.

Speaker 1 What would be the advantage? It's not

Speaker 1 tax. Taxes.

Speaker 1 Taxes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Wow. Damn.
Big T. I think that's a realistic.

Speaker 1 Those are realistic thoughts for me in the next few years.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 how close were you to wanting to move it?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 you were just inquiring or you was like, yo, if I get it? I was thinking tanking. I was think tanking.
Got it.

Speaker 1 I was think-tinking. Just floating, just floating shit.

Speaker 1 Past. That's all.
But if it worked in your favor, does that thing happen like within a month, if you understand what I'm saying? Or do you pace yourself out?

Speaker 1 Some people will say,

Speaker 1 get the call, yo, are we going to do it?

Speaker 1 It's instant. With you, it's not instant.
It wouldn't be that for me. I would take time.
Got it. Okay.
That would be like a culture shock

Speaker 1 for me. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I really commend and I thought about this.

Speaker 1 Just talking shit now, but I thought about this when I was watching Maddie and the Girls Love karaoke thing.

Speaker 1 I really, really commend and hold people in a high regard that was one place with their whole life set up. Women.

Speaker 1 Friends, family, fucking

Speaker 1 partners, jobs. You know where the supermarket is.
You just know where everything is. And they get up and just go.

Speaker 1 Manny just came to New York and it looked like, I mean, yeah, she's her family's from here, but that don't matter. Nah, women do that shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 To be able to get up, go and get it moving and shaking across the country. Yes, I tip my hat to that shit.
Women do that shit a lot a lot. Yeah, for me, that

Speaker 1 I would be fearful. You did it? Yeah.
I moved from New York to Chicago, upstate New York to Chicago, and then here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know women, like toying up. Like, yo, girls will just be like, yo, I'm about to move to L.A.
You're like, you're about to, what, what?

Speaker 2 Do it. And they'll just be gone.
D.C., L.A., Atlanta.

Speaker 1 Like, I know girls that just will pick up.

Speaker 1 They'll set this shit in motion. Yo, I want to move to such and such.
You'll be like, oh, okay. And they'll really set that shit in motion.
In six months, they'd be gone.

Speaker 1 See, I know that shit in the 1930, 40 is a different conversation. I know quite a few people that's done it, but it was out of necessity.
It was just, yo, I can't afford it here.

Speaker 1 It's true, true, true. It's like, yo, I got to go somewhere where the cost of living is lower than this.
And it's people that was born and raised here their whole lives.

Speaker 1 Shit, I said myself when I moved, you know, we make the jokes where I lived at MPA, but

Speaker 1 being born and raised in North Jersey, you think that's the norm. That's true.
And once you live somewhere else and you see what a dollar could really get you, you're like, oh, shit. She's different.

Speaker 1 I got mad. I mean, I told you I was mad as fuck.
Like, I felt like I wasted too much time up here because the money that I had and what I was doing, I could have got so much

Speaker 1 there. Yeah, that's back to me saying 44 be kicking my ass.
Like, you got to answer even, you got to think of questions and answer them differently today.

Speaker 1 Like, my whole life has been, yo, would you leave New Jersey? No.

Speaker 1 No. No, I shouldn't.
My kids is here.

Speaker 1 My parents are here. Everybody's here.
My job is here. Everything I love, I know this shit like the back of my hand.
But at 44,

Speaker 1 when people your age start asking you,

Speaker 1 Hey, how much longer do you envision yourself here? Like they asking something different.

Speaker 1 and you got to look at it different and think about this not not even i'm it's just a factor i'm not trying to be funny you got enough money to live here comfortably

Speaker 1 it's a lot of motherfuckers running around dog that are just literally maintaining above water like they they like this with it they treating it literally

Speaker 1 like they like this with it i told my man the other day my man he older um

Speaker 1 he broke up with his girl Oh, damn. He 50 something years old, my nigga.
He has a roommate and he can't, he can't, you know what I mean? I'm like, yo, dog. I was like, yo, I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 Go to Pennsylvania. Yep.
You got to. Like, go to Pennsylvania, dog.
The cost of living is half. And you just got to have to do like a 45-minute commute.

Speaker 1 But rather than live, you know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is real up here. And for me, Florida is the happy medium for me and my girl.
You talking about state tax, nigga.

Speaker 1 These niggas are talking about food. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You feel what I'm saying? Like, that shit is different for a lot of people. Like, this shit is real.

Speaker 1 And then not to make it morbid, because we can get off of this. Once you start thinking about like where you want to be laid to rest and how,

Speaker 1 then it just opens up the scope of

Speaker 1 all of that shit.

Speaker 1 Look, that's 40-year-old thinking right there. It is all that shit is on my plate.
Literally, be thinking about all that shit now:

Speaker 1 mortality and play fucking Frankie Beverly right now. No, no, no, we good.
We good. We good.
We good. I'll cry, nigga.
I'll probably not.

Speaker 1 Um, what else is important or unimportant? Tell us about the

Speaker 1 sexiest man alive. Hey!

Speaker 1 Jim from the office. Look at me fucking screaming.
I'm not beating the allegations.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to let you cook. I'm like, all right, you happy as bad.
They all just stand over there. I was happy for Jim.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Jim from the office, John Krasinski, was named the sexiest man alive.

Speaker 3 Interesting choice.

Speaker 1 That's hate.

Speaker 3 I'm not, no, not hate.

Speaker 1 Rolling with it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm rolling with it. I'm rolling with it.
I like it. She also said Lou Rawls was sexy over there.
I never said fucking Lou Rawls was fucking sexy.

Speaker 3 I said

Speaker 1 Ernie Hudson was sexy.

Speaker 1 Because he is.

Speaker 1 You'll never find.

Speaker 1 I love fucking Ernie Hudson. He is a sexy motherfucker.

Speaker 3 And so is Dennis Hazebert, okay? Like, I like the AARP crowd.

Speaker 1 Anywho. Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 2 No, you're pushing it.

Speaker 1 Freeman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Tremanna toss you up, bro.
Don't play with Morgan.

Speaker 1 Don't play with Morgan, yo.

Speaker 1 Not right.

Speaker 1 Don't split up no information you may know personally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't be a flip. I do know all that shit.
You about to fuck with me.

Speaker 1 Meet business out.

Speaker 1 Morgan, that kid in there. He's crazy.
Morgan, I don't give a fuck. I'm told you're a man.

Speaker 1 Morgan, are you there? Hanging fucking wings. This nigga right here?

Speaker 1 Yeah. He doesn't look like that.
He doesn't look like that.

Speaker 3 That's his character.

Speaker 1 You came before him? No, I'm informing you. He doesn't look like that.

Speaker 3 That's his character from The Office. Have you ever watched The Office? Never.

Speaker 1 Wait, what? What happened? Wait, what? You out here caping for him. Like, he don't look like that no more, Daddy.
He looked way better. What's wrong with you? I mean, Google the pictures

Speaker 3 from people, the sexiest, because they, yeah, they put a little

Speaker 1 product in his hair. A gym.
A beard does a lot.

Speaker 3 They gave him like a leather dress.

Speaker 1 I don't give a job. I love all the sexiest fans.
Come on. None of that shit.
Congratulations, Jim. Yes,

Speaker 1 peace. How'd you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, there

Speaker 1 He's not sexy to you?

Speaker 3 He's not a conventional beauty, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 He's got quite the schnauz, but, you know,

Speaker 3 he's still, he's attractive.

Speaker 1 He's tall. He's good-looking.

Speaker 3 He's, you know, he plays very likable characters.

Speaker 1 If you're doing that.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 If you're doing that, I didn't know you was going to do that. Do what? Then I'm rewinding back to the Sky Jackson topic to ask a question I wanted to ask.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Why are they killing her baby daddy choice

Speaker 1 as if

Speaker 3 to use your words?

Speaker 1 As if she's a conventional beauty.

Speaker 3 You know what? These are too big.

Speaker 1 How many better seen the office?

Speaker 1 I have an answer for you.

Speaker 3 Sky Jackson is kind of like

Speaker 3 she's kind of like the adopted kid kind of thing. People have watched her grow up.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 Don't get me into the Kiki Palmer bag.

Speaker 3 It's very similar in the way that people have watched Sky Jackson grow up and they kind of feel like a sense of

Speaker 3 glasses in my bag if you want to borrow them.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Show unisex.
Some lady faves.

Speaker 1 Hey, shout out to Scott Jackson. I mean, you ain't just about to sit here and do all this with Jim.
And anytime we say something about something,

Speaker 1 we get hammered.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I'm not the one that put him on the fucking cover of Sexiest, you know, man alive. You know, it was their choice.
I'm like, okay, it's fine.

Speaker 3 Brad and what's his name and George have had it enough times.

Speaker 1 Have you never seen the office? Yeah, please.

Speaker 1 Let's get to this is the important part i feel like you avoided i think you should go to the car turn off the phone go to the car get the hoodie come back and then go watch the office hang up in the car

Speaker 1 in the car yeah sure um in the car i don't i didn't really watch tv that much like that when the office was out it's not my thing

Speaker 1 like before before i met my girl i didn't really watch tv that much at all The office is still good, though. Like, you could watch it now.
It didn't go bad. Yeah, it's still great.

Speaker 1 It's fucking hilarious. I missed the boat.
No, you didn't. The boat's there.
It's still right there. That's right.

Speaker 3 You can still watch it. It's really funny.

Speaker 1 It's so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 Look at the things he's sturdy about. No, I wasn't even saying, I'm just saying, I never saw The Office.
That's blast with me.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you, look, you know, the way you look at me when I say I don't really rock with the infamous, like, the fact that you've never watched The Office is that same look I'm giving you.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 And it might be worse. It's worse.
I think it's actually worse. It might be worse than whatever.

Speaker 1 I was trying to. It's not worse.
It's not worse. It's worse.
It's worse. Me not watching The Office is totally different than a hip-hop historian, aficionado.
Oh, such a husband.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he never claimed that. Such never.
Such as never.

Speaker 1 I didn't say he did. Ice is revered.
No, he's not. Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Hate.
I'm talking shit. Go ahead.
People hate Ice? Yeah. Revered.
He's still revered as a hip-hop.

Speaker 3 But they still do respect you.

Speaker 1 Artist the

Speaker 1 clip that shit out would send Ice their album first for his opinion pre-drop.

Speaker 1 Watch the office. Yeah, watch the office.
I don't know what that got to do with the girl. Watch the auto.
I watch the office, big dog. Like, watch it.
Like, ASAP. I'm good.
Yeah, like this weekend.

Speaker 1 Did your girl allow you to watch the penguin finale? Whoa, did she allow me? Yeah. We ain't caught up yet.

Speaker 2 You got two more to go.

Speaker 1 He said, did your girl allow you?

Speaker 1 Stop this nigga spoke collectively. Yeah, it's eight episodes.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's a lot of shit we go in.

Speaker 1 I damn near on seven on the rewatch. Well, good.
Because I've got to watch with my girl. I'm watching all this other shit, man.

Speaker 1 That's all. You saw it yet?

Speaker 3 I haven't seen the finale yet. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 But it's phenomenal. It's so good.

Speaker 1 It's so good

Speaker 1 that you're just letting the finale sit down. No, no.
You did the same shit with Ozark.

Speaker 1 But not the finale. I never started it.

Speaker 1 So it's not the same. It's not the same.
I never started Ozark. I put episode one to finale

Speaker 1 from when I was ready to go. And he was like,

Speaker 1 I'm holding off on the last couple of joints. I'm waiting.
It was.

Speaker 1 No, he said,

Speaker 1 there was something else.

Speaker 1 There was something else.

Speaker 1 When you watch it, you chilled out. He was like, I don't want it to end.
I didn't want it to end. That's recent, too.
Yeah. That's recent.
It was so. My thing with now

Speaker 1 the penguin shit, like

Speaker 1 I'm still mad at that.

Speaker 1 I got a theory, but I'll let it rock until everybody finishes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get to it. I think we kind of overrated.
We engine our way up there. I think we're overrating the action.

Speaker 1 I think the acting is so good

Speaker 1 that it's

Speaker 1 drowning out the storyline.

Speaker 3 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Okay, never mind.

Speaker 3 Yeah, wait till we all see it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 See, I'm on the rewatch of it, and I'm catching shit.

Speaker 1 That I missed in the first time. Now, knowing the ending, like things that they kind of hinted to and alluded to.
Or that he was. He was at Jazz Club.
What he was doing.

Speaker 1 No, just about the storyline. Like, I think that's episode two or something where

Speaker 1 he's telling somebody, yeah,

Speaker 1 me and my mom, she used to take me to the jazz club all the time.

Speaker 1 And then he looks at the girl and says, you was there, right? Or what? Like, just things like that that come full circle later. The rewatch is good.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying Penguin is one of the best HBO shows of all time. Like the end of the day.
Not even close. It's too early.
Not even close. It's not.

Speaker 1 It's not even in the conversation. It ain't.
Yeah, it's not. It's not in the conversation.
But was it a great watch? Yes. Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 1 Stop that one season, and now I'm throwing it up here with NAGF Classics. I just think the acting was superb.
Like, I think the acting was superb. We sitting here talking about him, his mom,

Speaker 1 the girl,

Speaker 1 and the black girl did a pretty good job.

Speaker 1 His joint. His girlfriend? Yeah.
His joint.

Speaker 3 Was her name Tina?

Speaker 1 I forgot.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I just think the acting was really good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Episode four was really hard to get through

Speaker 3 where it shows her at Arkham.

Speaker 1 That was a flashback one, one, right? Yeah, yeah, that was out, that was

Speaker 3 hard. No, that shit was hard to get through, it was painful.

Speaker 1 No, it was just long for us. Why was that painful?

Speaker 3 I mean, just because you know, she's not the hangman,

Speaker 3 and her family served her up on a fucking platter to go to a mental institution, and then just what she had to endure in the mental institution, like, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Electric shock therapy, like that was hot, bro.

Speaker 1 You know, that shine feels.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 Did he say that that's what he went through?

Speaker 1 Did he have to?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 that's not a normal practice.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I hate that. Nor was her get back.

Speaker 1 We're talking about it, Alice. Come on, come on.
Sorry, what we're talking about. Let's sleep out here.

Speaker 1 Got a little trick for them. Anyway, I'm going to talk Penguin, but you never finished Penguin.
I'm sorry. Like, we're supposed to be talking about the end of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 And don't do that because actually, yeah, that's y'all.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to gender war us out here, but it's y'all women that big up fucking Angela Bassett and Waiting to Excel, left eye and fucking Andre Rising.

Speaker 1 And what Shorty did is write along the same shit. Like, women love that shit.

Speaker 1 Well, I know. Y'all just don't love it when it's getting

Speaker 1 the family for the family doing fucks. But if you do that to a dude, put the gas mask on.

Speaker 1 Huh? Well, two of those instances.

Speaker 3 Well, two of those instances were fictional movies. The left eye thing,

Speaker 3 you know, I don't.

Speaker 1 Lorraine Bobbitt.

Speaker 1 Y'all loved it.

Speaker 1 They always love it. And that wasn't fictional at all.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the cops that found his dick.

Speaker 1 That's an awkward search, but he did it. He did it.
No, that could have went a whole different way if they didn't find that thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, he wouldn't have had a porn career if they didn't find that thing.

Speaker 1 And you know what? A lot of you niggas out there, that's where y'all fuck up. Sleeping around people that you shouldn't be sleeping around.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 and also acting like you don't know your girl.

Speaker 1 So what?

Speaker 3 A lot of guys love to go for the crazy girl because they think the pussy's better than

Speaker 3 anything on this planet.

Speaker 1 It did. It's a woman.
And then when Set Girl does some crazy ass shit, you guys are like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 No, bro. Let's do the first part of that.
It do be. Look at the trauma coming out.
It's not.

Speaker 1 It do be a little. It's true.

Speaker 1 Let me get up here.

Speaker 1 Crazy pussy is the best.

Speaker 1 For real.

Speaker 1 It is, male.

Speaker 3 Okay, I'll take y'all's word for it.

Speaker 1 You don't have to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 That shit is ill.

Speaker 3 Well, I will never ever

Speaker 1 personally know.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's so so crazy.

Speaker 1 But a crazy girl, they get wet on the spot, too. That shit like a waterfall.

Speaker 1 It's like a waterfall. They get mad and they just go, shh.

Speaker 1 Start here, TLC, nigga, your head.

Speaker 1 Boom, bam!

Speaker 1 You know what I'm talking about, right?

Speaker 1 No, I don't believe it. Hey, come on, all the crazy joys got the fire.
Why do you think niggas still take chances with them? We talk about the break the windows.

Speaker 1 Their friend that introduced herself to him, is she crazy?

Speaker 1 Yes. Like appears that way? I don't know.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.
Nobody has any thoughts on the Lil Baby Tupac.

Speaker 1 I didn't know it happened.

Speaker 1 I only heard the first record, the 5 a.m. joint.
I didn't,

Speaker 1 I forget what the second one was called, but I didn't hear that one. I mean, it.
One of them shits is hard to me.

Speaker 1 I only heard the 5 a.m. I heard one.
It sounds like

Speaker 1 typical cool. Yeah.
Sounds very simple. Y'all just all floor baby.
Y'all just all floor baby. No, I gotta hear the second second song.
Yes. But

Speaker 1 I'm going to say this. The song that I heard, he was saying some shit, but it was just the same flow, same cadence, same everything.
It just sound like all repetitive.

Speaker 1 But when you listen to the words, he was saying some shit. He was really saying some shit.
One of them records I like a lot. I'm off Lil Baby.
Okay. That's all.
Y'all heard that Imani three-pack?

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 It's not out yet, though. Oh.

Speaker 1 I have not heard it. I haven't heard it.
Okay. No.
I just wanted to make sure, you know, I thought he would let his brothers hear it before he did. Oh, no, he don't do that no more.

Speaker 1 And when I was jamming to the little Instagram snippet, he cut it off as soon as his vocals were. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 I ain't like that shit either. So you get the deaf to let him hear them vocals.

Speaker 1 It's cool. All right.
That's cool. All right.
What else you got?

Speaker 1 We got aliens. We do.
We got actual... Confirmation of aliens.
We do from credible, citable sources. Under oath.
Under oath and open senate.

Speaker 3 But haven't they been saying this for like the last few years?

Speaker 1 We got a little bit more details now, though.

Speaker 3 Okay, what's the details? That they're living amongst us? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ah. They've confirmed they're living underwater.
Underwater. They're living amongst homes underwater.

Speaker 1 There's some humans that live down there with them.

Speaker 1 People have been paid that have been,

Speaker 1 they've received government money that have been paid. I've received that have been paid for being...
like injured by UFO aircraft and shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're confirming shit. I watched the whole two-hour fucking

Speaker 1 press conference shit. Did they show any receipts?

Speaker 1 Like, why we believe? Simply believe old white people. Like, we don't believe them niggas.

Speaker 3 Did they show like the bottom of the ocean where the pods are?

Speaker 1 I'm on the hole.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what the whole hearing was about: is that there's

Speaker 1 government agencies that are keeping this information from other government agencies. So they're trying to get that clear because essentially taxpayer dollars and

Speaker 1 government resources are getting put to that, but no one can

Speaker 1 show anything or verify anything. Got it.

Speaker 1 Like every other governmental agency.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true. I mean,

Speaker 1 we all know what's going on with the CIA.

Speaker 1 We're talking about it. The government themselves is not privy to the government.
Yeah. Shadow government.
What the shit going on on the shit? Nigga, we watch Lion S.

Speaker 1 And they have a government agency that other government agencies don't know what the fuck what's going for.

Speaker 1 Put Lioness to the side and start office.

Speaker 1 I'm not off that, y'all. You like the office? It just started.
Oh, y'all off the office? Well, I love the office. The office is amazing, dog.
Yeah. Gotcha.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I could have re-watched the office today. My girl might have watched it.
You're probably not going to meet anybody with bad things to say about the office. At all.
It's possible. Impossible.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 The aliens are here. I think we're going to find out some

Speaker 1 real evidence. They created a governmental agency a couple years ago with the sole focus on

Speaker 1 aliens and allocated a nice amount of budget to it. So I think at that point, they was like, yeah, gig is up.
We can't hide it no more. Still no evidence.

Speaker 2 You think we're going to get evidence soon? I do.

Speaker 1 Soon. I think it's pictures and all that shit, and they're just suppressing them.
Yeah, there is.

Speaker 1 That's what they're saying in the thing. I'm saying, do you think the public gets wind of? I think the public is not really ready for that.
And I think that's why they be hiding that shit.

Speaker 3 Also, I don't think that we'd believe it in this day and age of AI. I don't think that people, we'd even believe our own eyes.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's a good point.
That is a great point.

Speaker 3 They're like, oh, here's the receipts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now they they can bring them out.

Speaker 1 Here you go. Ain't nobody gonna believe it nowhere.
That's good shit. True.
So the nigga was down there in the pod holding this brush. They down? No, it was underwater shit, bro.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck they got.

Speaker 1 You seen

Speaker 1 Black Panther 2?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I put a little shit on him and had a ball nigga jokes that look like me down there.

Speaker 1 Got you, got you, got you. All right.
Okay. So the humans and the aliens are cohabitating? Fucking.

Speaker 1 Fucking. They might be.
Could be. Okay.
Some of these motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 I can watch this on YouTube. This concern stuff.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold it.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold it. Do something with your comment.
The permanent way.

Speaker 1 That shit start.

Speaker 1 That shit starts humming, nigga.

Speaker 1 What? You're a freak, boy. Yo, bitch, you're a freak.
I'm sad. You're an old ass freak.

Speaker 1 You're an old-ass freak, boy. I'm starting to look at shit differently with you.

Speaker 1 You never know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Y'all nasty. Y'all are fucked the alien.
The alien fish.

Speaker 1 Y'all are nasty. Some of them.
Niggas that smash mermaids.

Speaker 1 They're smashing in mermaids. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You're sick, though. My bad.

Speaker 1 It's okay.

Speaker 1 I already prayed for you.

Speaker 1 I'm a work in progress.

Speaker 1 Some of this motherfuckers is aliens out here. Some of these niggas is hitting aliens.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 Never mind. You got it, bro.
That's fucked up. So Mel calls me the other day on a day that it's like, why is she calling me? I don't talk to none of y'all outside.

Speaker 1 So Mel calls me. What time was it?

Speaker 1 It was like 9-ish maybe. A.M.
or PM. A.M.
P.M. P.M.
Oh. Yeah.
P.M.

Speaker 1 What day was it?

Speaker 3 It might have been Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Wednesday at 9 p.m. I answer.
Because I think she got a flat tire or a damsel in distress somewhere. I think she got arrested.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm not sure. All of the above

Speaker 1 emergency contact. And she says,

Speaker 1 hi, do you know

Speaker 1 Boogie Fland?

Speaker 1 And I say,

Speaker 1 why?

Speaker 1 Like, who's that? She says, he is a college star.

Speaker 1 Apparently, he's going to be a top 10 pick. Oh, she was on a Brittany Rollins.
So then I put him in the Google.

Speaker 1 So I put him into Google and, yeah, the star backcourt chord back there, yada, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 So this is odd.

Speaker 1 Like, why is Member? I never know her to be the same. Why is she doing the college scouting now?

Speaker 1 And why is she telling me about it? And she says, so I'm quiet still.

Speaker 1 She says, and he's Isha's cousin.

Speaker 3 Or something like that.

Speaker 1 Didn't I say that? I mean, didn't you say that?

Speaker 2 Something like that.

Speaker 1 I'm like, all right, come on, get to it. Get to it.
She said, huh, how you feel?

Speaker 1 Want him on?

Speaker 1 And that's what she did with Leon Bridges. So that's our inside joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when Leon Bridges dropped, she called 90 times to get Leon Bridges on this show

Speaker 1 after she was on that stage.

Speaker 3 No, you're talking about October London.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's stage too.

Speaker 1 You just feel stages. I'd have forgot the stages.
But Leon Thomas, however. What's up?

Speaker 1 My man is up here now.

Speaker 1 We love your album. For sure.
For sure. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We absolutely love your album.

Speaker 1 It's great. It might be album of the year.

Speaker 3 It might be RB, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 1 This is great. I'm not even.
I appreciate that, man.

Speaker 3 Did you know that when you were recording it?

Speaker 2 I was really just catching a vibe. You know, I feel like.

Speaker 3 The vibes don't lie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the vibes don't lie.

Speaker 1 The vibes don't flirt.

Speaker 1 Vibes don't lie. I never heard y'all say that before.

Speaker 1 That shit fucked me up. Vibes don't lie.
What?

Speaker 3 It's a name of a song on the album.

Speaker 1 You should probably listen listen to it.

Speaker 1 I can beat somebody and like they vibe and not have to, you know what I'm saying? Vibes gonna lie my way into it. Salute.
I think it's fly. Yo, who hurt you? Yo, listen.
Who did it?

Speaker 1 That's really my only question for you.

Speaker 1 Album is great, yada, yada, yada. Who produced, yada?

Speaker 1 Who

Speaker 1 did that to you?

Speaker 2 Nah, listen, you know, LA is filled with situationships. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 But I think it was really my long, long-term relationship.

Speaker 1 I was with a girl for probably like four years.

Speaker 2 I think post that, I was like, okay, let me talk my shit, you know?

Speaker 1 What happened? What did she do to you? It was nothing bad. She fucked you up.

Speaker 2 Nah, it was nothing bad. I just think, you know, LA, you can get sold a lot of dreams, you know, and I think it's really tough as two artists trying to trying to come up together.

Speaker 1 Well, she was an artist.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 so it didn't, you know, it didn't work out like I thought it would. But

Speaker 1 do people know? And we just have to loop?

Speaker 2 No, no, no. It was public.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I was with a girl called Alia Kadir.

Speaker 2 That's my dog still.

Speaker 1 We still cool, man. Your voice gets soft.

Speaker 1 It's love for life. It's love for life.

Speaker 1 You see what he's doing?

Speaker 1 She broke up with you, nigga. We got that.
Y'all see what he's doing, though, bro. Y'all see what he's doing?

Speaker 1 She trying to shoot a shot. Because she's an artist.
Yeah. Yeah.
She can go in the studio too.

Speaker 1 You smart, nigga. No, no, no, no, no.
Clean it up. She's cool people.
She cool people. Clean that up.

Speaker 2 But I feel like I like to make a lot of my songs dramatic. You know, I mean, I come from the acting space.
I think, you know, people want to hear the drama, bro.

Speaker 2 So I'll try to make that work as a lyric.

Speaker 1 Nah, you don't pin. You don't sing fucking far-fetched and it be love.

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 1 I'm calling Cap. I heard that song.
I love this song. Bitches be lying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bitches be lying, yo.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. It definitely gets real in LA.
But, you know, I think all of it deserves, you know, it's documentation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's one of the reasons I won't move to LA is all of that shit. Really? LA, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, it'll be a bill. It's a bill.
Right. It's not, I'm not saving money moving to LA, but outside of that,

Speaker 1 all of that

Speaker 1 illusion. Masters of illusion.

Speaker 2 A lot of smoking mirrors, for sure.

Speaker 3 Lots of smoking mirrors.

Speaker 2 A lot of smoking mirrors. But I mean, I find my peace in meditation, trying to be like, you know, as good of a person as I can be, catch a vibe.

Speaker 2 But I think it's important for me to document everything that's going on. And also, shout out to my boy Busy Crook.
You know, I co-write a lot of my records with him. He's out in Miami.

Speaker 2 That's another expensive city where, you know, shit gets real crazy.

Speaker 2 So I think between both of our, you know, just lives and putting that together, you know, it's really turned into some really good RB songs.

Speaker 1 Now, before we talk about the rest of this, I saw you out the other night, eh? Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah i was gonna go too man but i thought it was just gonna be brooklyn drug dealers

Speaker 1 yeah no it was definitely it was definitely crazy out there it was a vibe

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 what's up

Speaker 2 you know it's funny i met you some years ago in la

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 2 i was in the studio with a mike zombie

Speaker 2 my man big jersey so we came through and uh we were making some beats i think you were actually about to drop something you were like thinking about dropping something.

Speaker 2 And, you know, we talked and you asked me what I did. And I said I was an actor and a singer and a producer.

Speaker 1 And you was like, nigga, you got to pick one. And I was like, it was just funny.
I was like, damn.

Speaker 1 It made me think. I was like, yo, I probably should focus on one right now.
But then you did, though, right? I did, actually. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I actually kind of stopped acting for a little bit and started focusing on the music and shit really started popping off.

Speaker 1 See, I got to stop telling the truth to niggas that you just meet.

Speaker 1 I think that's when we had the house. Did the house have a pool? It did have a pool.
That's fly. That was it.
I thought about you talking about that. It was a fire little Hollywood Hill situation.

Speaker 1 You talked about saving money, but you was balling out. You know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no.
That was a nice Chris.

Speaker 1 It was a good bargain, Airbnb.

Speaker 1 But it was a good bargain on the Airbnb. That shit was fly, though.

Speaker 1 It was definitely a fly Chris.

Speaker 1 I do remember that now. I do remember that now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you was on the balcony.

Speaker 1 I was like, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 He was down by the pool.

Speaker 2 You know, you was just asking questions. It was interesting.

Speaker 1 You was there during the day or at night time? Nah, nighttime, nighttime.

Speaker 1 Cooking up. After the club and shit, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just cooking up, catching a vibe. Good times back there.
Absolutely. It was.
I've had some of my best nights in L.A. Facts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, LA is definitely a good party city if you want to pop out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you can find it. You know where they're at.

Speaker 2 I feel like hanging around Ty usually finds the right ones, though. You know, Ty Dallas on this definitely

Speaker 2 runs the clubs out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can see how that would happen. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Keitho. Yeah, he be doing his thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't say. So now, you should be too damaged to want to enter a new relationship anytime soon.
I actually,

Speaker 1 I'm looking right now. Relationship right now.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Because I feel like for the next album, I definitely want to document the process of falling in love, you know? And I don't want that to sound like cheesy, but I think it's important.

Speaker 1 I think it's important, you know. Fire.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's so much toxic shit in the marketplace.

Speaker 2 Facts. I'm on that.
I'm on that.

Speaker 1 Niggas should be trying to market themselves different, right?

Speaker 1 I'm going to find love i'm like that's why i'm gonna date for my next

Speaker 1 ladies

Speaker 1 yo

Speaker 2 do you consider yourself part of the toxic r b absolutely absolutely but i think it's all about balance you know like on the same album i have a record called i do where i'm talking about you know uh wanting to marry the girl i'm with you know answer your phone where I'm begging and pleading on some like in the rain RB shit.

Speaker 2 I think you got to have balance in this generation, you know, with all these podcasts going on. I feel like they need a soundtrack.
You know, we need to figure out what that sounds like on record.

Speaker 2 And RB is definitely, you know, really great when you're holding up a mirror and showing society yourself.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Yeah.
It's profound. Yeah.
You know, it's real shit. Disney guy.
Hey, man.

Speaker 1 Nick, Nick, Nick. You got to get it right.

Speaker 1 There's plenty of fire that came out of some of them shows. Oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 I thought all them niggas was in lifetime 360s. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
How did they let you get away? See, Nick?

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, man, I was independent for some years, to be honest. Yeah, but I mean, shout out to my team now.

Speaker 1 You're with Ty's got a label, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Ty's got a label with Motown, and they've really been holding it down. We've been doing our thing for sure.

Speaker 1 It must be nice having someone that's kind of...

Speaker 1 An OG, older brother vibe,

Speaker 1 also helping you on the business end.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I mean, he's going crazy with Ye right now. And I mean, just to see like his process of like putting vultures together.

Speaker 2 I was out there in Italy with them for like three months and just seeing like the character development for that for that first album was really interesting because I mean we didn't really know exactly how it was going to turn out.

Speaker 2 And it's so cool to see it go number one. Carnival just got nominated for a Grammy.

Speaker 2 Watching that process being a fly on the wall and actually working on some records as well with them really helped me just kind of finish out my own album with a little bit more, I don't know, just poise.

Speaker 2 You know, I feel like when I came back, I I was like moving a little different, talking a little different.

Speaker 1 Just constantly just being around people with that type of thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely, definitely gained my glow in Italy. We were out in Florence, and when I came back, I just felt really, really ready to release a strength.

Speaker 1 Did you get to travel around while you were in Italy? Florence is beautiful. I was like,

Speaker 1 Florence was so beautiful, I just really stayed put.

Speaker 2 And to be honest, like to have an opportunity to work with Ye, like, I was really hyper-focused on just making sure I was at my best. Everybody

Speaker 1 rather quickly, right? Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Now, how tough was it to stop talking to some people from your past once you got back from Italy? Changed up on these niggas?

Speaker 1 I'm around. Yay now.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, nah. Sessions is different.
It ain't even like that.

Speaker 2 It ain't even like that. But I feel like isolation is important, especially when I'm trying to get focused, prep for tours,

Speaker 2 really be at my best.

Speaker 2 And if it's not a real relationship, I think we need to kind of clip things and, you know, get focused on what's going to work.

Speaker 1 Do you have a favorite song of the album?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. It's funny.
She mentioned vibes on a lot. That was a joint that really, like, I played that shit probably like 40 times after I made it.

Speaker 2 And, like, for me, I listen to my music, but I'm not one of those people who's like in the car, at the crib. You're going to hear my shit all the time.

Speaker 2 So, you know, that was one of those joints I was playing every day.

Speaker 3 Feelings on Silent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Feelings on Silent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was, I made that in Italy too.

Speaker 2 So, like, when I came back, you know, we were staying at the Four Seasons, the Medici Estate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like this crazy ass garbage.

Speaker 1 He just popped that whole ass, like,

Speaker 2 but I mean, he set up like a studio in a hotel, you know. So, like, during my breaks, I would walk around the garden and I was listening to that beat from conductor.
Shout out to my boy Conductor.

Speaker 2 Came back

Speaker 2 ready to really like, you know, tear shit up, catch a vibe.

Speaker 1 He just let this rock for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Let him get in his bag right now.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 Can you

Speaker 1 when you're making an album? Do you listen to, are you the type that listens to other music when you're outside of that session? Or

Speaker 1 is it, I can't listen to anything because I'm focused?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I was just stuck in like the 60s and the 70s for like a lot of the end of the album, like around the time I made this song. I was listening to this record called Morning Sunrise every day.

Speaker 2 And I wanted to capture that same

Speaker 2 vibe and feeling without using the same chords, you know? And I think we did a good job of like really having that cool, soulful, funky vibe. You know, it's very laid-back.

Speaker 2 But a lot of my music is chill because I feel like I'm a pretty laid-back nigga myself. So I want to kind of, you know, put my energy.
you know, on the record.

Speaker 1 When we was at the spot, when we was at the spot the other night,

Speaker 1 shout out to jazzy she came in there yeah yeah that's my dog yeah when i and i saw that and i was like hey wait a second

Speaker 2 i wouldn't mind i wouldn't mind hearing that oh for sure i mean we've worked on a lot of records over the years it's just interesting because like you know when uh you know diddy was doing his love camp i was around jazzy a good bit um but we just never found time to like really cook something new up i think a lot of our old songs are probably like six years old now yeah i would rename the camp if I were gonna still

Speaker 1 not good titling yeah I would make

Speaker 1 it would be a new name

Speaker 2 you know just for reference yeah yeah you know

Speaker 1 what's up

Speaker 1 what's going on what's up why y'all all tighten the face in

Speaker 1 that jeans

Speaker 1 I'm just I'm just admiring you know I'm just my I'm just admiring the work

Speaker 1 that's it appreciate

Speaker 1 Watching my sister do a great job in her interviewing skills and her ad-libs. That's why I put my hoodie on because she's very on point.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a, you know, and I, and I like it, and I appreciate that. I appreciate your work.
What is your, so what is your, what is your

Speaker 1 five-year plan for you? Like, what does it look like? Does it look like an album every year? Does it look like multiple projects every year?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Are you going to dip out a little bit, try to hold some mystique?

Speaker 2 I feel like all of the mysterious drop every three years stuff is

Speaker 2 not the vibe. I think

Speaker 2 fans want more content.

Speaker 2 I think, you know, collab albums would be important just to kind of keep the marketplace flowing. I'm really trying to build my touring business.

Speaker 2 Right now, we just sold out, you know, a domestic tour, which is really cool.

Speaker 1 Really, really big.

Speaker 1 Really big.

Speaker 1 How many cities?

Speaker 1 14.

Speaker 1 When does it start?

Speaker 2 It's already started. Actually, like, right after this, we got to fly to Boston to do this.
We got to go.

Speaker 2 But I'm just really excited about the future of it. Seeing how these shows are feeling, New York was crazy.

Speaker 2 That's why I'm a little hoarse because it was like insane.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 just like sold-out energy and the love that's in the room right now, I can tell we're building something really special.

Speaker 1 So, when you say I'm building out my touring business, ticketing business, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 You know, because I can do all these festivals and act like all those people are there for me, but I'm down to do these 500-capacity rooms and like build that ticketing business, sell merch.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Somebody get to it.

Speaker 1 Somebody understand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I keep telling them

Speaker 1 they tricking you with all that festival shit. Festival acts.
Yeah. Giving you the big bags.

Speaker 2 It's just like, nah. But, I mean, I'm also down to do festivals for everybody.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 But, you know, like. You got to do both.
Yeah. I'm definitely doing both right now.

Speaker 2 And, you know, shout out to Caroline Yim at WME. She's been really holding it down.

Speaker 2 And my manager is really helping me build a solid touring business because I feel like that's where a lot of my money is going to live for the next five years.

Speaker 2 Um, but yeah, yeah, I got a lot of plans, man. I want to do uh some films as well, uh, you know, dip back into my acting bag a little bit later on, probably the next two years.

Speaker 2 But right now, it's just about you know, continuing to really create at a high level as an artist and build this touring business, you know, really simple, but but it's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 What do you love about

Speaker 1 well, let me know before we do that, what's changed the most for you with this album and the release of it?

Speaker 2 It's interesting because

Speaker 2 I always call the industry a high school, and I think like right now it's like I feel like I'm getting invited to the cool kids table. A lot of people are noticing me in the hallways now, you know.

Speaker 2 I mean, like

Speaker 2 niggas knew I went to the school for years, but like now it's just a lot of love, you know?

Speaker 2 So I'm taking that in stride. I'm not like trying to get revenge and not work with people because they maybe play me four years ago.

Speaker 2 I'm just seeing it how it is, you know, like, you know, success is an important thing to lock in. And my team worked really hard to have a successful release.
This rollout wasn't easy.

Speaker 2 This road wasn't easy.

Speaker 2 But I'm down to the next step.

Speaker 1 How long were y'all rolling out people? How long were y'all rolling out?

Speaker 2 Man,

Speaker 2 we worked on this rollout for probably four months, six months.

Speaker 3 That's a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's exhausting.
So that was just like a lot of interviews and, you know, playing the game and

Speaker 2 I'm just really happy that that you know people are noticing the music man.

Speaker 2 I mean seeing the Twitter conversations seeing the tick tocks like I can tell that people are you know resonating with the frequency I put out.

Speaker 3 It's phenomenal. Thank you.
What's the title? Mutt.

Speaker 2 Mutt. It's just the element of control.

Speaker 2 I feel like I've watched not just in my own life, but even with a lot of high power men, like successful men, when they're before that big relationship, they're dealing with a lot of women who are trying to get them to sit.

Speaker 2 You know, it's like a metaphor.

Speaker 1 It's like a metaphor for like, you know, women really trying to just like sit down.

Speaker 2 You're mine now.

Speaker 1 And most of these niggas are not on that. Like they like,

Speaker 1 I'm making too much money.

Speaker 2 There's too much attention.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm not going to sit.

Speaker 2 So it's, if you really look at the documentation

Speaker 2 just throughout the entire album, I'm just talking about that push and pull of like, oh, a girl really trying to just get a dude to act right. And he's just not really doing it.

Speaker 3 Was there any kind of like specific arrangement to the album?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wrote a script before

Speaker 2 I actually finished everything.

Speaker 2 And the storyline was essentially like, you know, a guy who breaks up with a girl, goes on his player arc, and then right around I do is where he finds somebody that really

Speaker 2 loves him to pieces, and then she breaks his heart. And that's where Answer Your Phone comes in.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it's like, you know, kind of like a story of karma, which I think a lot of people underestimate when they're out here being players.

Speaker 1 So the next album is going to be, I got somebody else to answer the phone? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now we on our journey.

Speaker 2 Who knows? I mean, honestly, like, I'm documenting as I go, bro. So it's just like trying to, trying to live a

Speaker 2 good lifestyle so that the music is potent, you know?

Speaker 2 I think it's going to be important, you know.

Speaker 1 When you broke up, when you got out of your long-term relationship,

Speaker 1 was there a period where you fucked away the pain? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 And that's not healthy.

Speaker 1 Did it work? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No, it's a horrible way to do it. Just giving yourself to people.
Yeah, you can't just zeke in. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're not the vibe. So frustrating.

Speaker 2 But I feel like for me,

Speaker 2 this was an album of self-reflection. You know, I really got into meditation.

Speaker 2 You know, I like production.

Speaker 1 I was a little bit. I really like tagging.

Speaker 1 You know, she fucked you up when you start going up. Yeah, fucking up.

Speaker 1 No, that is what it is. That nigga do fire.

Speaker 1 She fucked that nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Full hippie mode.

Speaker 1 When she started dating again, did you find out? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
You was hurt. Damn.
Yeah, that's what started to be hurt. Some of them tried to spin a block, too.
I said, oh, straight bubble.

Speaker 1 Wave, wave, wave. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 That's why you cut them niggas off.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn it.

Speaker 1 Nah, they would have started crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, take some water, man.

Speaker 1 It happens. It happens.

Speaker 1 Were they still homies? And how did you find out all of this?

Speaker 2 Hey, listen, you know, the streets talk, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, you start off the gram? All right.

Speaker 1 You start off the gram talk.

Speaker 1 Literally, literally, you know, you know, it's got a little phone call. I said, oh, okay.
Well, do you appreciate those calls or do you rather them not happen? I'd rather they don't.

Speaker 1 Like, why are you not? It's none of my business. Y'all know I loved it, her.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's none of my business, you know. But it all makes for good songs, man.

Speaker 1 Was he better than you in anything?

Speaker 2 Maybe rapping.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, she got with another musician. She got with a spitter.
She got with a fucking musician. She got with a spitter.
Oh, shit. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 We got her.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's a girl. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like a known rapper? Somebody you might know? I don't know. I ain't going to ask no names.
I ain't asking no names.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I ain't trying to get it.

Speaker 1 But I ain't trying to get messy, but not a local rapper.

Speaker 2 No, definitely not a local rapper.

Speaker 1 Sneakers, sneakers.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 no, Worldwide rapper? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 The first fight, you know, the first flight or two. You heard the slaps in Italy? No.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Not the garbage.
That's how it goes. That's the game.
It builds character. It is what it is.

Speaker 1 It builds characteristics. It is what it is.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm happy you said it is what it is, but it wasn't, it is what it was when you found out, nigga. But I'm happy that you grew.
Yeah. Can I say that?

Speaker 1 Meditation works.

Speaker 1 Meditation works.

Speaker 1 Play it cool, digging. Play it cool.
Play it cool. Keep it beat.
If the nigga up, you know, he don't want to set no balls your way. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, we have a debate up here every now and then.

Speaker 1 Would you have felt better if it was a nobody dude?

Speaker 2 Nah, I mean, honestly, regardless, like, I'm not tripping, bro. Like, life is good.
I'm super blessed right now. And I'm working on some amazing shit.
I don't really take anything like that personal.

Speaker 2 It just is what it is. She wasn't with me.
What's your sign? I'm a Leo.

Speaker 1 I'm a Leo too, nigga.

Speaker 2 Yeah, confident as shit.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm good. But we be fronting a little bit, but I got you.

Speaker 1 I know that's not, that's the

Speaker 1 world. Yeah, yeah.
First person. In the moment, I wasn't really feeling that.
when your stomach wasn't confident. I wasn't really feeling that.
Leos hit the streets for life after they get done.

Speaker 1 Leos are in the streets for the rest of their life after that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I don't want that for myself. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 All right, so he's got marriage and his plans.

Speaker 1 Building out his tour and

Speaker 1 hard tickets. Get married for the album and then we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 He's not through that.

Speaker 2 Nah, nah, that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 The boss album might be lit, too. That's true.

Speaker 1 He's documenting finding love. You know what I'm saying? Which is great.
That sounds expensive. Yo, how old are you? I'm 31.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's around that time. No, it's about that time.
Yeah, it's around that time. I went by now.

Speaker 1 From that time to what? 31.

Speaker 2 31 to 35. I'm thinking it's like my range, like, you know, giving myself a RB niggas.

Speaker 1 Your range rover? No, my range to maybe find my person, get married, do the whole thing. This is how they get to those listeners.

Speaker 1 I'm from New York. I'm from Brooklyn.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It worked.

Speaker 1 Two-parent household?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Well, no, my parents are divorced, but you know, stepfather was amazing, my stepmom's amazing, so it's like you know, four parents.

Speaker 1 Four parents, yeah, four parents, bro.

Speaker 2 It was lit, and actually, you know, what's funny? My mom and my stepdad had an independent record label in the early 2000s, and they dropped a record called Pump It Up.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 what year was it? This is the science decision to house.

Speaker 1 What year was it?

Speaker 1 Nigga, you wrecked my whole house. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You wrecked my whole house, bro. Like, everybody was stressed.
They put mad money, put their life savings.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's funny. This shit drop went insane.
It was like, okay, yeah. Wow.
So their pump it up wasn't as much of a slap. It's his pump it up.
I don't, nah. It's okay.
It's a beautiful song.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Shout out to Wise. I don't fuck off for life.
But, you know, it was just like, it was just a funny moment now looking back at it, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Life is funny like that. Life is funny like that.
Yeah, full circle, bro.

Speaker 1 So you won't be getting anybody Christmas gifts?

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 1 I mean, I think. Because you're searching for your person.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He just went to Italy and found somebody else.

Speaker 1 Three of them.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I feel like a Christmas gift could be chill. Something chill.

Speaker 1 Nothing too epic, though. I mean, if I really like a girl, yeah, I'm down.
Nothing too epic. Yeah, that could be misleading.

Speaker 2 Nothing. I mean, like, you know, nothing too epic.

Speaker 1 What's epic? I'm talking about

Speaker 2 a laptop or something like, like, you know, super expensive.

Speaker 1 A laptop. I'm thinking, like, something chill, something chill.
You said that. But wait, the laptop is epic.
It is too expensive. Nah, not too.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 For me, I'm going to be real. I'm cheap as shit.
But like,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's high grade. You heard? Leos are usually very generous.
And LinkedIn.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, here and there, here and there.

Speaker 1 Well, you could get like a MacBook Air or something like that.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 1 get a refer.

Speaker 1 This shit crazy. Last year's bottle of shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get a use shit.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 I was filthy.

Speaker 1 We saving right now, but yeah. Oh, my God.
So, yo, you moved from Brooklyn to L.A.?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I moved from Brooklyn to L.A.

Speaker 2 That's when I was doing all the Nickelodeon stuff. They moved my whole family to Los Angeles.
Big move at like 16, 17.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you've been out there for a minute?

Speaker 2 I've been out there for a nice minute, man.

Speaker 1 You didn't experience none of that wild shit that we seen in the dock, right?

Speaker 1 No, no absolutely not

Speaker 2 um it was i mean my mom she's really she does not fucking play you know so it's not like i was just there alone no holding she was always like holding it down and i i feel like my energy too is very standoff it's just no there's no energy that would ever lead somebody to believe that they could try me yeah shout out to mom yeah for sure my protector for sure

Speaker 3 She was your momager?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm like her startup. Like, we really work together.
I mean, being a child.

Speaker 1 Well, after they put all the money into the joint. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All the money into the record, you know what I mean? You had to. Yeah, no, no, no.
You had to spend the block.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Joe. You heard?

Speaker 1 Y'all want to hear that song. I want to hear it.

Speaker 1 I got to find it. I know it's somewhere out there online for sure.

Speaker 1 Pump it up. Oh, my.
We're going to find that shit.

Speaker 1 What's the one thing you hate about touring?

Speaker 2 I won't say hate, but... Could do without.
Yeah, I could do without the wear and tear on the body.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, I just did another tour where I was open up, opening up for a blast, and uh, I took like probably like 20 flights or something like that.

Speaker 2 I mean, flying every day, different airports,

Speaker 1 yeah, it was definitely, it was definitely tough.

Speaker 2 It's a real grind, you know,

Speaker 2 especially because I'm not doing it on like a crazy, super high level. Yeah, it's open.

Speaker 1 There's not a lot of help, you heard.

Speaker 2 So I'm, you know, I'm doing what I can to just make it work.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Economy?

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, nah, nah. We still flying first.
But, you know,

Speaker 1 it's different. But still, but still, like, yeah, it's not.
You got to carry your bags and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you got to

Speaker 1 tap in.

Speaker 1 20 flights in a row. I mean, you'll see.
Nah, it is. Yeah, that's rough.
That's rough. No, that's work.
It is.

Speaker 1 And that wear and tear on the body,

Speaker 1 it's a real thing. That's a real thing.
No, for sure. It's just the same for us.
For sure, for sure. You be sick all the time.
Self-conscious. Tapping off types of germs.
Just a lot.

Speaker 1 Meet and greets, meet and greets, meet and greets.

Speaker 2 I'm doing all like.

Speaker 1 Hey, how much that meet and greet?

Speaker 2 You You know, something special.

Speaker 1 I think we're doing like... Chris Green, how much is that meet and greet? No, no, the price of it.
The price? I think it's like $200.

Speaker 1 Okay. Y'all niggas, boys.
That's where it's at.

Speaker 1 $200.

Speaker 1 Times how many people?

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, we're getting like 80 to 100, 150.

Speaker 1 I feel like the entire music industry stole the meet and greet from Tech 9. Oh, word.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. That's how I feel.
Was he the first one doing it? That's a fact. The first one I could think of.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. You know somebody different, Chris Green? You a dinosaur.
You old as me.

Speaker 1 No, older than me, actually, in this shit. Can you think of somebody that started doing meet and greets before Tech 9? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I would want a piece of everybody's meet and greet.

Speaker 1 If you trademarked a meet and greet? If he was Tech 9.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to sound a certain way.

Speaker 1 Tech got a lot of money anyway. He does.

Speaker 1 He's doing all right. That's how business in America goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 if I think of a concept and y'all go on to use that concept. That's a Snapchat.
for the concept. Go patent a meet and greet.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't think of it.

Speaker 1 I stole it from Tech, too.

Speaker 1 Call that shit a touch. I went on that tour.
I went on that tour to see what was going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a crazy nigga.

Speaker 1 You got jacked.

Speaker 1 I hear you. You're going to get sued.

Speaker 1 No. God damn it.

Speaker 1 All right, I don't have anything else because he does have to go. He does have to make the tour.
Shout out to Boston.

Speaker 1 A lot of fun times in Boston, too. As a single man.
Good vibes. Good vibes definitely some good vibes Cape Verdeans you like Cape Verdeans uh yeah for sure

Speaker 1 y'all think it's funny

Speaker 1 yeah if you know you know

Speaker 1 that's a fact um and they be

Speaker 1 trilingual quadrilingual

Speaker 1 respective is there anybody is there anybody uh tell me what albums or artists you are waiting for i'm waiting for i'm waiting for Frank Ocean to come back and drop some shit. Why?

Speaker 1 I want to hear some shit. Wait, wait, wait,

Speaker 1 yo. You know I'm fucking with Frank? You don't fuck with Frank? No, we do, but Frank is.

Speaker 3 Do you have some inside information? He's working for sure.

Speaker 1 For sure. Definitely in the studio.

Speaker 1 Cooking.

Speaker 1 Short circuiting in here. We're going to allow this.

Speaker 1 I believe that he's working, but I'm going to get Ocean. He's going to be done anytime soon.
He could be working. All right.
Yeah, he could work. There's a movie dropping with 824.

Speaker 2 Okay. It's all on the way.

Speaker 2 So I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 He might know something.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. Like, I know that shit.
He's like the Bernice shit.

Speaker 1 We'll get the Andre 3000 rap album before that.

Speaker 1 I mean, so we'll get that before.

Speaker 2 Y'all think he's just never going to drop again?

Speaker 1 I think Frank don't give a fuck about music or nothing.

Speaker 2 He don't care.

Speaker 1 So tell me your thoughts on,

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's real or not, but the rumor from a couple of weeks ago that Frank posted on his burner on the Reddit. Did you see that? No, I actually didn't see that.

Speaker 1 The rumor was going around, hey, we found Frank Ocean's burner on Reddit. Okay.
But they say that all the time. But this person wrote,

Speaker 1 I want to almost find, one of y'all Googled the shit.

Speaker 1 But he was saying how

Speaker 1 I don't know how much longer I want to participate in this and do this. I'm losing touch with reality.
Nothing has seemed real ever since I started recording and became this.

Speaker 1 Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely grateful and blessed. That's crazy.
But like, I just feel like, whatever the fuck he was saying, but it was really deep and

Speaker 1 sounded frank ocean-ish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I don't doubt that he's working. So when you say he's working on it, not around.

Speaker 2 I have a homie, Dylan Wiggins, who worked on a lot of stuff with Solange. And

Speaker 2 his uncle is Rafael Sadiq,

Speaker 2 really, really talented producer and musician. And I know they were doing like probably around like six months ago, eight months ago,

Speaker 2 you know, some sessions in Miami that I was like kind of jealous. I wanted to be at those sessions too, you know.
So

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I definitely, you know, to me, as a fan, I was pretty excited to hear that he's back in the, you know, in the studio vibing out.

Speaker 1 But I got Frank in the Rihanna, in the Rihanna boat. Yeah.
I think so, huh?

Speaker 1 I think that he's making fire to play for himself.

Speaker 1 That's funny. Let me ask you this.
That's lynch, actually. That's lynch.
Nah, for real. That's fucking making fire.
Super fucked up. For him and the kickback that he throws whenever he throws it.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's for mass consumption. Have you ever met him? Who me? Not that I remember.
Well, I never met him.

Speaker 1 Money will come into play sooner or later.

Speaker 1 What'd you say?

Speaker 1 I think money will come into play sooner or later.

Speaker 1 Like hell,

Speaker 1 I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 Not about an artist. Yeah, I don't think certain people don't matter.
I'm not about him. That's true.
I think he's caked the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, too. And I think he rather not be.
He don't give a fuck about. I think he'd rather not be.

Speaker 1 If he caked up, then I'm definitely going to be clever. He's caked up.
He's caked up. Yeah, he's caked up.
It ain't a money thing. Just off of the shit he wrote on and featured on.
He's definitely.

Speaker 1 When you're waiting for Frank, give me a realistic answer.

Speaker 1 Give me somebody that might actually be.

Speaker 1 Actually, I will say this.

Speaker 2 I was in the studio with Summer Walker, and she has some amazing music on on the way. As an R ⁇ B lover, like I'm fucking hyped for that shit to drop.

Speaker 2 We're actually working on some dope shit too, so I hope she keeps it.

Speaker 1 I hope so too.

Speaker 2 That's the one I'm really hyped about for hopefully next year. We'll see.

Speaker 1 We'll see when she wants to drop. But

Speaker 2 I'm a fan. It was cool to get the sneak peek and really hear some good vibes.

Speaker 1 I got Summer with two classics under her belt and hopefully a third on the way. That girl don't play.
She's amazing.

Speaker 2 She's amazing. And it was like potent.

Speaker 2 It was like amazing lyrics, great tracks and it was cool to kind of even you know put together a track with her um right after i heard a bunch of the joints and i'm definitely gonna be sending some more stuff for where it just why the hell you ain't text her for your shit

Speaker 2 well we'll see what happens you know we got some stuff on the way i don't want to speak too soon but uh i definitely want to want to tap in i actually just met her for the first time like three weeks ago so you know i'm really hoping we can actually do one for my my deluxe so you really you really are you write it the you've been around but like like you said, you really at the beginning of

Speaker 1 something fly.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Something fucking dope.

Speaker 1 That's the album, put them on the map for some time. I can hear it.
I could feel it. I see how your peers, I see and hear, and listening to you, how your peers are responding to this body of work.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 Phone ringing, tour.

Speaker 1 Let's go. The pin, the features.
Yeah, that's how this thing goes, man. Trajectory is pointing.

Speaker 1 I'm super excited to watch your journey. Mutt's going to be a deluxe.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm definitely doing a deluxe for Mutt. You know, I've been talking with Anderson Pack and a couple other big homies that I feel like could really just add like elements to a big Sean.
Like

Speaker 2 all of my homies that I worked with in the past like three years, four years, I'm just tapping in with now to say, okay, how can we

Speaker 2 really point more fingers back to this copyright as an album?

Speaker 2 And we missed the mark to be able to be nominated for this year's Grammys. Shit.
So it's like we got a year of promoting this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I want to make sure that the Lux is going crazy. We got a swing.

Speaker 3 How many more songs are you going to add?

Speaker 2 I'm looking, just to give y'all the exclusive, I'm looking to do like five extra songs and then like maybe one remix of a joint that people really like.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That mud remix.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Freddie snapped. He sent that back same day.
So like he just blacked out. He seemed like one of them dudes.
And that's my boy, too. So it was cool.
It was cool to get that call.

Speaker 2 Because, you know, sometimes when you hear like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's thinking about it, but then to get the actual phone call and, you know, get the record right back same day

Speaker 2 was a dope moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Freddie needs to be in a mental institution. He's sick.
He's insane.

Speaker 1 Not only is he sick, but I'm sure that he related to a lot of the content on the project. Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
That he resonated with my brother. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 It resonated with my brother. That's the only thing when the versions come right back.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, you part of the song about this.

Speaker 1 you didn't have to look for it. Man, he didn't stay right there.
He didn't have to walk in the garden.

Speaker 1 He did not have to walk in the garden.

Speaker 1 And that's the dope shit about. He didn't have to walk in the garden.
You could get some shit off on the feature that you maybe not want to do on your shit. Oh, exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he wanted to kick a few bitches backs in that he couldn't really do on his house. His own shit.
Yeah, yeah. He did a little bit of that too.
I was about to say don't hit back. Yeah.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I feel like that's new for free. I'm happy about that.
I'm happy about that. Yeah.
Because he Ben should have been kicking bitches anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Y'all got anything else? No.
No. No.
Because I will not be the reason that he misses the Boston show. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 I got to do it.

Speaker 1 Got to do it. But I really appreciate y'all for real.
Thank you for coming.

Speaker 2 This was kind of surreal.

Speaker 1 Super dope, man. It was fire.

Speaker 3 Good luck in Boston.

Speaker 1 Everything comes full circle, man. No, for sure.
We're extremely happy for you up here. Yo, thank you, man.
I really appreciate that, man.

Speaker 1 And if you need our support in the future, unless you fall off, then don't reach out to me.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 if your trajectory stays the same,

Speaker 1 we hear. Nah, I appreciate that, man.
I'm going to keep swinging.

Speaker 1 I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 This is Rawls. So

Speaker 1 unless you fall off, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 Honest, bro. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And for the record,

Speaker 1 I don't foresee it.

Speaker 2 I don't see that. Nah, I like that.
I don't see that.

Speaker 1 It seems legit.

Speaker 1 Now, the flip side to that is when it hits sky high, you got to still come back and and get it.

Speaker 1 Don't forget about it.

Speaker 1 Don't do the other side of that. People say that.
No, you don't. If you get fucking Dwayne Johnson out of here, then we would understand.

Speaker 1 I don't hear that shit.

Speaker 1 We got tapping in, man. I really appreciate y'all.
For real. He's at the bottom.
What time, man? Make some noise.

Speaker 1 Make some fucking noise.

Speaker 1 Leon Thomas.

Speaker 1 Mutt album out now in your phone on DSPs. He's on tour.
We got a Mutt Deluxe coming. Yeah, let's go.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 That's it, man. Let's go.

Speaker 1 All right, y'all. Much love.

Speaker 1 Good dude, Leon Thomas. For sure, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I fuck with him. Super cool.
Super talented. Super talented.

Speaker 1 Good personality. Good guy.
I'm rooting for him. Same.
Same. Same.
Same. For sure.

Speaker 3 Can't wait for that deluxe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, same. Yeah, yeah, I really love that album.
Yo, y'all ain't start talking about that shit.

Speaker 3 You haven't listened to it?

Speaker 1 I'm not an RB guy. But it doesn't matter.
Yes. It's that good.

Speaker 1 I took your word. Okay.
That's fire, though. That's why I watched The Office.

Speaker 1 Same reason.

Speaker 1 I'm going with a record by Valiant,

Speaker 1 and this song is called Little Red Writing.

Speaker 1 One day, your boyfriend wants me to your best friend.

Speaker 1 You want to get me a broken wolf and my bed and execute.

Speaker 1 Little red riding, not my slide in. Mano the vibe.

Speaker 1 Coming for the night,

Speaker 1 Pull up now the ski now and bust on freeze. So you're coming on me carry, you know you're not going back.

Speaker 1 From a dinner, your pussy run a couple laps. The SE cool, what the fuck is that? From my school, there's I do better check a chat.
Me like you, my girl, we are full.

Speaker 1 Tonight is is the night we are for. Lick a red ride in, not my slide in.
Mano fire vehicle

Speaker 1 coming from the night, babe, my love for time in. You know your life, big good.

Speaker 1 She a copy, she a vibrate. Loaded on the side, come she come for her eye, big.

Speaker 1 She had the time of her life, me too.

Speaker 1 Pussy tight, but I really need her.

Speaker 1 Any time I say I'm a friend, I'm a pen pal. Attention is walk, but I enjoy.
She's like more than ever, it's a deep by dimension.

Speaker 1 Me Me like to me get we on board Tonight is tonight, we are full. She a bad free dagger, she need a go.

Speaker 1 She knows touch and needs a joke. I'm a set of desire, I'm with

Speaker 1 up. Finger paper and your nipple every way I wake up.
And front the foot, feel good, yeah, I feel make up. My ain't up, you need to tell your money where you end up.

Speaker 1 Lickle red lighting, no ma slide in, my nuan fire.

Speaker 1 Come here for the night, babe, my love for time in. You know your life, big good.

Speaker 1 She a tube, she a vibrate, no da da da sire. Come to come pride big

Speaker 1 She had the time of her life meeting

Speaker 1 Pussy tight but I really need her Come a fuck I will skip out of the dates

Speaker 1 Take it to Dubai and rent

Speaker 1 Even though she shine at a single

Speaker 1 bi

Speaker 1 It's a brand new music from Valiant.

Speaker 1 Record is called Little Red Riding.

Speaker 1 Available in your phones and on DSPs right this second.

Speaker 1 That was tough.

Speaker 1 New Joe Bay. Good shit, good shit.
I'm going to Fayetteville.

Speaker 1 This is Out the Hole by Moray.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you got me? Yeah, I got you. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Wonder what Moray's boy.

Speaker 1 From the bottom to the top, a nigga made it out the motherfucking hole.

Speaker 1 New carpet crib, this ain't not where I used to live, nigga, no.

Speaker 1 You be acting like you nigga know, but you niggas don't really fucking know.

Speaker 1 Red like green light, nigga, one, two, three, bitch, I'm always on gold.

Speaker 1 From the bottom to the top, a nigga made it out the motherfuckin' hole.

Speaker 1 New carpet crib, this ain't not where I used to live, nigga, no.

Speaker 1 You be acting like you nigga know, but you niggas don't really fucking know.

Speaker 1 Red like green light.

Speaker 1 Took a step back, now I'm back in. Almost gave up, bitch, I'm lying when I'm copying.
Had to load it up, ten toes, now I'm strapping.

Speaker 1 Made a couple million off the motherfuckin' rapid city, natural not tapping. Money made me late, nigga in my sleep, so I be sleeping like a babe.
So much money, probably have another bait.

Speaker 1 Then these bitches is gon' be cuffed. Bullet raise them, this sitting is amazing.
Damn, nigga, talk your shit. Never in a million gears, I thought I lived like this.

Speaker 1 I done cried a million tears just to drift like this. And I get merged from the pain for I earn my shit.
I've been thrown now, I got clear gold. Not that too far away, but right here it goes.

Speaker 1 Hate the throne, that don't mean I got a fear roll. Brave hard, heart, my feet, I'm on my finger go.

Speaker 1 From the bottom to the top, a nigga made it out the motherfuckin' hole.

Speaker 1 New car, big crib, this ain't not where I used to live, nigga. No.

Speaker 1 You be acting like you nigga, no, but you niggas don't really fucking know.

Speaker 1 Red like green light, nigga, one, two, three, bitch. I'm always on board.

Speaker 1 From the bottom to the top, a nigga made it out the motherfuckin' hole.

Speaker 1 New car, big crib, this ain't not where I used to live, nigga, no.

Speaker 1 You be acting like you nigga, no, but you niggas don't really fucking know

Speaker 1 Red like green eyes

Speaker 1 Yeah, back again like I'm a part two I'm really fucking living how y'all niggas say I do Got the G's in my smile like I hate on do Take my designer fuck a pana nigga no bamboo I mean, now my kids living better than me It's the type of soul eye and I love what I see Pride on my ups and my down cover made me a G.

Speaker 1 Now I'm an angel in the demon nigga watch how you speak

Speaker 1 when I be making the man Had to learn to be assertive when it comes to them bad Niggas be trying to find an exit after getting them grants and big Loyalty shouldn't come with a price But nowadays niggas want an extra piece of the buy A can bake their own cake So I ain't giving no mind Be Tony Hawk get on board nigga learn to grind

Speaker 1 From the bottom to the top a nigga made it out the motherfuckin' hole

Speaker 1 New carp this ain't not where I used to live nigga no

Speaker 1 You be acting like you niggas know but you niggas don't really fucking know

Speaker 1 Red light green light nigga one, two, three, bitch I'm always on go

Speaker 1 hole.

Speaker 1 New car, big crib, this ain't not where I used to live, nigga. No.

Speaker 1 You be acting like you nigga, no, but you niggas don't really fucking know.

Speaker 1 Red like green eye.

Speaker 1 And that is Out the Hole by Moray. Yo, it was fucking.

Speaker 1 Glad Moray is back, man. I was wondering, you know, what's been going on? Yeah, it's good to hear from him.
Absolutely. Good to hear from him.
I'm going to DMV. This is Corday and Kanye.
No bad news.

Speaker 4 I got a call from my nigga Mako doing a bid. 30 years, but still the same nigga I knew as a kid.
Put a smile on his face to see me doing my shit.

Speaker 4 I asked, did he have commentary and he said it shit lit.

Speaker 4 and this mom just graduated she just got her degree and on the phone I hear his Lee he bought as proud as can be we spent the hour reminiscent how he was wild on the street but by his attitude you think he's getting out in the week he told me no news today no bad news today no bad news today nothing to prove today

Speaker 1 no news today no bad news today nothing to prove today times i used to pray

Speaker 4 Ay, running the bro, that's bad news. Gang affiliated tattoos.
Stakes is high like wagu, but shit, who asked you? Top down in the jack coop. Them boys really from the concrete.

Speaker 4 They'll make your wigs split like a rap root. Okay, now got bread, so I'm staying out the way now.
First class from the Greyhound, you should have stayed down. Plain James, no more buzz downs.

Speaker 4 Bro, just came home from a touchdown. I told him, don't don't look back, or fuck round.
He never listened. Say you on demon time, this the exorcism.
Bro, copping lows, they talk my name.

Speaker 4 They throw some extras in it. So much money, pilot.
My accountants earning their percentage. My daughter's the heiress princess.
I took her to Paris, Venice. Her closet embarrassed bitches.

Speaker 4 Chanel diaper bag. Fuck it, I don't like to brag.
She fly just like a dad. Humble just like a mom.
I sit back and write my rhymes. Think about this life of mine while listening to life and times.

Speaker 1 No news today. No bad news today.
No bad moods today. Nothing to prove today.

Speaker 1 No news today. No bad news today.
Nothing to prove today. Times I used to play.

Speaker 1 She's just playing.

Speaker 1 That's Corday, Kanye West. No bad news.

Speaker 1 Corday album is super tough.

Speaker 1 I'm dying to finish that album, bro. Check it out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to

Speaker 1 Young Lady, her name is Saylor,

Speaker 1 and the song is Pookie's Requiem.

Speaker 1 Sounds on broken.

Speaker 1 I will be happy.

Speaker 1 I will be happy. Cause you wanna need me.
Bet she means your mom. Bet y'all get a dog and name it after me.
Hey, Boogie. I'm in an alternative reality.

Speaker 1 I was a true thing, not a new thing.

Speaker 1 My requiem of a dream.

Speaker 1 My requiem, a dream, oh.

Speaker 1 I got me a real snotty nose for fucking with these real snotty hoes. And I've accepted that's how life goes.

Speaker 1 One moment you're on top, and the next is stepping in the dog shit in your brand new phase, hoes.

Speaker 1 Fuck it, yeah, I'm a wreck up on my dreams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a wreck, oh bookie. I hope you're happy.

Speaker 1 I hope you're happy.

Speaker 1 Cause you want mini me, that she meets your mom. Bet y'all get a dog and name it after me, hey boogie.
I'm in an alternate reality.

Speaker 1 I was a true thing, not your true thing.

Speaker 1 My requiem of a dream.

Speaker 1 My requiem, a dream, oh.

Speaker 1 That is Sailor Pookie's Revenge.

Speaker 1 I like it. I didn't really know what to expect with that title.
Yeah, me neither.

Speaker 1 I thought it was about to be about some fiends. I did too.

Speaker 1 What you got for us, Mel?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 3 mine is by Ombre. It's part two, Drake and Drive.

Speaker 3 I played this already, huh?

Speaker 1 It don't matter.

Speaker 1 I like it. I leave it.

Speaker 1 You, my son.

Speaker 1 I take the chance

Speaker 1 like carrying shit most of the time.

Speaker 1 But I'm in the hills,

Speaker 1 I'm in the hills.

Speaker 1 Stay full of gas,

Speaker 1 fill up my coffee. Look at that function,

Speaker 1 can I pull up?

Speaker 1 I need a body, it don't hit home.

Speaker 1 Still, I'm alone now.

Speaker 1 You know what's up,

Speaker 1 drinking it, driving.

Speaker 1 But if you're listening, it's too late. Don't bet you can't.
Nothing is the same, girl.

Speaker 1 I know I left you for a lane. You couldn't persuade me to stay really trusting you.

Speaker 1 You would've been a war, but I

Speaker 1 trust

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Trust,

Speaker 1 trust

Speaker 1 You know

Speaker 1 You know what's up, Drake and his driving

Speaker 1 Don't wanna tell you too much

Speaker 1 I'll make songs for women This perfect timing Think I need some money I know you gon' try to find me when my new shit drop That won't make me me stop, just come through. It's your right, yeah.

Speaker 1 Spending the night alone,

Speaker 1 hopefully you're not too far gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, to deny

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Try not to let me hold on.

Speaker 1 You only on my phone,

Speaker 1 only when you're morning, so I ain't spinning back. Best way to put it, I've been back on my bully, yeah.

Speaker 1 These days I'm so detached, I know I should let it go. Try not to think about you too much.

Speaker 1 You wanna be the one,

Speaker 1 trust

Speaker 1 you,

Speaker 1 trust you,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 You know what's up,

Speaker 1 drinking and driving,

Speaker 1 drinking, drinking,

Speaker 1 part two

Speaker 1 drink and Drive.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Ombre. Love Ombre.

Speaker 1 That shoot is a vibe. Friend of the show, Ombre.

Speaker 1 We love you if you listen.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Do you remember

Speaker 1 that I told one night

Speaker 1 that swimming nights, I almost lost my life. Listen, man, keep us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.

Speaker 1 I bid you a dude, farewell. Adios are dirty, I still vista arboir.

Speaker 1 Ego is the sign of the battle.

Speaker 1 I'm on the front line of disaster now.

Speaker 1 All makes sense. I put it together.

Speaker 1 Next who we have doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Happy

Speaker 1 Happy life

Speaker 1 just to kill me fight.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments and moments fast.

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we are.

Speaker 1 Lastly, the banddies are insecure. The stagnant women wanna travel to closed-minded women.

Speaker 1 Want you to teach them things.

Speaker 1 Try to be the man. Anyway, We get plans, we get plans, we get plans.
Anybody, we get plans. We outside, man.
Yeah, going outside. Okay, okay.
Gang is outside. God damn.
Y'all said that kind of fast.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 Not me. I'm going to be out of town.

Speaker 1 I'm in the crib.

Speaker 1 I'm waiting for that football game Sunday.

Speaker 1 Who you got? Baltimore. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's see what y'all made of. That's it.
I got Baltimore. Let's get it.
That's cool.

Speaker 1 I got Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Is it in Baltimore, Piet?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 1 Y'all usually do go to gussy. Right nights.
Not usually.

Speaker 1 We've been kicking their ass.

Speaker 1 Fighting

Speaker 1 Why are you talking not in the mic?

Speaker 1 Why are you not talking in the mic? Why are you talking in the mic?

Speaker 1 Because we're at work. It's a private conversation.
No, it ain't. You can say it.

Speaker 1 Say it. No.

Speaker 1 This is my son right here. This is my girl.

Speaker 1 You are my son.

Speaker 1 Hey, send her this song, please.

Speaker 1 Can you email? You got Mel's email? No, because here's the situation. I'm not talking to you.
Ice. Do you have males email? I do have males email.
I know the songs.

Speaker 1 When you get home, just send this song out.

Speaker 3 You can't, I swear to God, I feel like this is like cocaine 80s or some shit like that.

Speaker 1 Ice, send it out.

Speaker 3 It's like an EP, you just can't get anymore.

Speaker 2 Ice, please.

Speaker 3 So if you have the shit in here,

Speaker 3 I'm not talking about you, I mean the average person. So just because you have it in Serato doesn't mean that I'd be able to find this.

Speaker 1 I left it just for the white girl curse out that I knew was coming.

Speaker 1 You know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP. Where would you be without the JBP?