Episode 821 | "The Natty"
The full crew is in attendance for the latest JBP episode as the internet erupts once again over the topic of 100 men vs. one gorilla (23:44) before Joe asks Ish to elaborate on his thoughts on reparations (39:23). Terrance Howard reveals why he turned down the role to play Marvin Gaye in his biopic (53:42), Shedeur Sanders falls to the Cleveland Browns in round five (1:05:27) as the room also discusses their thoughts on the prank phone call (1:21:04), and a dozen Philadelphia Eagles including Jalen Hurts skip their visit to the White House (1:24:30). Also, Joe wants to highlight Young Thug’s new record (1:39:28) and DESTIN CONRAD’s album (1:46:48) once more, Kendrick Lamar & SZA’s Grand National Tour is already setting records (2:12:22), How long should you be indebted to a person that glows you up (2:20:33), Bill Belichik’s girlfriend interrupts his CBS interview (2:31:15), and much more!
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Sleeper Picks:
Joe | Ayra Starr & Wizkid - “Gimme Dat”
Ice | Max B - “Blow Me A Dub (Remix)”
Parks | Mobb Deep (feat. Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, & Big Noyd) - “Right Back at You”
Ish | Mario - “Drowning”
Melyssa | Leon Thomas & Halle - “RATHER BE ALONE”
Marc | Reflection Eternal (feat. Jay Electronica, J. Cole, & Mos Def) - “Just Begun”
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No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,
Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.
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Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. Right here.
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Don't stop. Don't stop, nigga.
Don't do that, because she can't back. Turn us on.
Don't try to dig her up.
Speaker 1 We good, nigga.
Speaker 1 Turn us on.
Speaker 1 Everybody on team.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Turn us on.
Speaker 1 Last looks.
Speaker 1 Last looks. Send your last-minute texts.
Speaker 1 Uh, do your Google. Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Shut the ringers off.
Speaker 1 Fuck they
Speaker 1 You asked for it.
Speaker 1 You turn your ringer on?
Speaker 1 You said make sure the ringer's off. You turned those on?
Speaker 2 Yeah, so I can hear when I have a text message or a phone call coming in.
Speaker 2 I know you have the fancy app.
Speaker 1 I don't know if I want to tell you all the time.
Speaker 1 I just don't have my ringers or a vibrate or anything on.
Speaker 2 You don't want to be alerted when somebody's called.
Speaker 1
No, no. No.
Oh. So why you got a phone? Yeah.
Speaker 1 For what I want it. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I will go look at my phone eventually and see that someone has called or texted me. Yeah, that's what I do.
And we'll deal with it then. Well, we handle things different, even though I'm with y'all.
Speaker 1 She handles things differently. Okay.
Speaker 2 She wants to hear the date. I'm just saying, time sensitivity sometimes.
Speaker 1 Well, I mean, if there's something important going on and I'm expecting an important phone call, then that's a different scenario. Vibrate.
Speaker 1 Or vibrate.
Speaker 2 I don't hear that.
Speaker 1
Got it. Sorry.
Old age.
Speaker 2 Hearing goes, eyesight goes.
Speaker 1
It all goes. I don't want no beef, bro.
Yo,
Speaker 1 no beef. I'm so old now.
Speaker 1 I'm glad she said that. I put the phone on speaker and still got to put it to my ear.
Speaker 1
I'm moving a little close to you. I don't hear the speaker when it's just like on.
Put the volume up, you dummy. It'd be up.
Speaker 1
No, I should be on it. I'm like, yo, this don't make yo.
This is a goddamn shame right now.
Speaker 1
I'm with you. On God.
I don't put it to my ear, but it'd be right here.
Speaker 1 It'd be right here. It'd be right here.
Speaker 1 If you hit that waist, the sound get faint.
Speaker 1
The sound gets a little faint. That's real.
That's real. How's everybody doing? Doing good, man.
Really good. I'm full crew.
Don't start, nigga.
Speaker 1 Don't try to get morale up, nigga. We good.
Speaker 1 Keep me in confidence, nigga. Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 What the streets been waiting for.
Speaker 1 Take the nine.
Speaker 1 Take the charge, too.
Speaker 1 My nigga is back. Hey!
Speaker 1
Hey, yo, you might hit hard. I'm sorry.
The little fat-ass fingers, you might ask a motherfucker really nervous.
Speaker 1 You went to a funeral?
Speaker 1
Oh, I'm sorry. Condolences.
You all the stuff. Oh, family.
Speaker 1 You was there for the weekend?
Speaker 1 Got Got it. Did you eat good?
Speaker 1
Yeah, you know that down south that shit. Yeah, I know.
They were shooting paws, my family?
Speaker 1 No. All right, that's it.
Speaker 1 They dropped the pods.
Speaker 1 They dropped a part on the day. You look at a funeral.
Speaker 1
I'm your friend today. I'm your friend today, bro.
Hey, fuck them, niggas, yo. We ain't playing.
We were with the funerals, nigga. Don't drop the part on my day.
I'm off.
Speaker 1 I'm trying to like capitalize on it. You shot it like a month ago, right?
Speaker 2 You shot it like a month ago, right?
Speaker 1 It depends on which part you're talking about. Oh,
Speaker 1 oh,
Speaker 1
my man. bed.
Yeah, he shot a few. Wow.
Yeah, nigga, that's what we do, nigga. I know.
Yeah, keep the morale up, boy. We show you, boy.
Oh, full crew.
Speaker 1 Stop playing with us today.
Speaker 2 Fuck that idiot. Ish, who's your PR?
Speaker 1 We might need to share the wealth.
Speaker 1
She's trying to get interviews. You know, her shit looks a little fake.
She's trying to get what she can fit in, boy. She's hey, right? And she got a spot for me.
Speaker 1 Now she's telling her ass to Ish. Jeez, Tom, please.
Speaker 1
Nigga, five, look. Look what you done did, nigga.
Look what you done did. Take those stupid ass glasses.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I don't have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1
I've been practicing this look in the fucking bathroom mirror since last night. How about that? I don't have nothing to do with it.
Yo, with the glasses on? With the glasses on?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, so don't fuck it up.
Yo, you stupid. This is 17 hours.
You know what I mean? I don't have nothing.
Speaker 1 Whatever y'all talking about, whatever your little duck curry, curry, duck, duck, shit, date, bullshit y'all did.
Speaker 1 That's not brilliant. I don't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1 some vibes.
Speaker 1 This is nothing but
Speaker 1 vibes today.
Speaker 1 Super vibes. Quadruple H.
Speaker 1 No, you said triple H. Health,
Speaker 1 happiness,
Speaker 1 healing,
Speaker 1 and hoes.
Speaker 1
Gotta add holes. Sure.
Gotta add holes. Nigga said, my new name is Triple H.
Holes is nice, even if you're healing. Just to have around.
Even if you have. They speed up the process.
Holes is cool.
Speaker 1
Hoes make it better. They speed up the process.
Oh, man. If only I had two small elephants.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Mark, you good? Mark.
I know Mark and Ish had some flat earth beep earlier. Flat earth.
Flat Earth for Mark is like a bitch going in my phone
Speaker 1 when I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1 You're controlling me at this point.
Speaker 1
I'm good. I'm great, man.
All right, let's go. Good spirits.
Let's get this bad boy started then. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 So there's only two things in life that you worry about. Whether you're healthy or whether you're sick.
Speaker 1 If you're healthy,
Speaker 1 you ain't got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 But if you're sick,
Speaker 1 you got two things to worry about.
Speaker 1 Whether you're going to get better.
Speaker 1 Whether you're going to get worse.
Speaker 1 You get better.
Speaker 1 You ain't got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 But if you get worse,
Speaker 1 you got two things to worry about.
Speaker 1 Whether you're going to live.
Speaker 1 Whether you're going to die.
Speaker 1 If you live. You ain't got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 You ain't got nothing to worry about. You die.
Speaker 1 You got two things.
Speaker 1 Whether you're going to heaven
Speaker 1 or whether you're going to hell.
Speaker 1 Nothing to worry about. Nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 You ain't got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 Whether you go to hell.
Speaker 1 You got two things.
Speaker 1 Original or extra crispy.
Speaker 1 I'm dreaming.
Speaker 1 Don't wake me.
Speaker 1 I'm dreaming.
Speaker 1 Mike check, one, two, one, two. Mike, check, one, two, one, two.
Speaker 1 Goodbye.
Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.
Speaker 1 Big jersey, big jersey.
Speaker 1 Queens, what up, Jamaica?
Speaker 1 Alright for the ladies, all right for the lads.
Speaker 1 I can't get hold of the fact that's not with you.
Speaker 1 Cause I've happened, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 Shout out to all the subgroups out there, all the first and last time listeners.
Speaker 1 Shout out to the patrolies always.
Speaker 1 And I like them. Ingo,
Speaker 1 come with me.
Speaker 1 I'm dreaming right now.
Speaker 1 Everybody outside, we got 80 degrees outside.
Speaker 1 Yummy, there's cards out, it's cards out today.
Speaker 1 I love the body.
Speaker 1 Just leave me alone.
Speaker 1 Turn up the lights and I'll go.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? When the weather gets hot, man.
Speaker 1 When the weather gets hot, it take me back to the 90s, cross-colors and shit, concern I ain't all that.
Speaker 1 Do you remember
Speaker 1 being familiar with
Speaker 1 that?
Speaker 1 Shout out to Carolinas, everybody gearing up for a family reunion out there.
Speaker 1 Hey!
Speaker 1 Shout out to parents listening.
Speaker 1 Do you remember?
Speaker 1 Back and forth.
Speaker 1 40 enough, 40 enough out there.
Speaker 1 Do you remember
Speaker 1 us for the pain?
Speaker 1 Y'all seen the Shannon Sharp electric slide? Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie, it did make me wonder how all of y'all's electric slide looked.
Speaker 1 We get them and do it. Now, everybody on the phone.
Speaker 1
Everybody on the phone now. No, cut it on.
Now, everybody on the phone. One of those individuals.
Speaker 1
Cut it on. What do you mean, cut it on? Cut it on right now, boy.
Cut it right now, old boy.
Speaker 1 Do I have that?
Speaker 1
It's electric. Come on, man.
You know how to do electric.
Speaker 1 Do I have that?
Speaker 1 Are you Googling how to do it? Mel, put your fuck down.
Speaker 1 Let's see what happened with Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1 Don't fuck the whole video, but he was doing an electric slide that wasn't the most.
Speaker 1 Is that what he was doing? He was terrible.
Speaker 1 I'm about to say,
Speaker 1
he doesn't look like no electric slide I ever seen. He looked crazy electric cloud.
That nigga electric is off.
Speaker 1
I do, pay the ball. You can't feel it.
Yeah, you pay the bill. This shit look terrible.
All right. What's that blackout? Let's see you, Griffiths.
Speaker 1 No, you never heard this? Get up, nigga. Your face, that's why I'm just saying, you was like.
Speaker 2 This is the electric slide song?
Speaker 1 Excuse me?
Speaker 1
I can't get up. I can't get up.
I would have walked around. I can't get up.
Speaker 1 I would have got up.
Speaker 1 Yo, I would have got up.
Speaker 1 Oh my, Melissa Savannah Ford.
Speaker 2 I've never heard this before.
Speaker 1 You're never going to beat the allegations. So I
Speaker 2 listen, I'll start. I accept the charges.
Speaker 1 Do you know how to electric slide?
Speaker 1 A little bit.
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. All right, so it makes more sense.
All right, all right, sorry. All right, y'all.
She don't know how to electric slide.
Speaker 2 You know, it's like a little back and forth, you know, slide, slide, and dip, dip, and then.
Speaker 1 Wow, whoosh?
Speaker 1 Mark, did you know this about our sister in Christ?
Speaker 2
No, you fucking didn't. Just that's it.
You have said enough for the morning, okay?
Speaker 1 Oh, shit, shit. What did I do?
Speaker 1 Nothing.
Speaker 1
Round her shit. That nigga held you down when you left.
Yo, shit. Yeah, nigga.
You just shooting that nigga in the head. No, no, no.
When you left, nigga, he lifted it. Yo, this nigga.
Speaker 1 Ain't nothing in there, my nigga.
Speaker 1 It's in everyone's best interest.
Speaker 2 I saw the battery in his back, and he was like, Ain't no celery left, my nigga.
Speaker 1 It's in everyone's best interest in that particular
Speaker 1 celery, all that shit gone.
Speaker 1
Oh, man, y'all. That's so funny.
I asked it to all of y'all, but in my notes, it definitely says, Mel.
Speaker 1 Does Mel? No, how the electric slide.
Speaker 2 I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 How? Have you ever been to a wedding? No.
Speaker 1
A black wedding. In fairness, it most black wedding.
They play that at white weddings. But I tell you they played a slide at a white electric slide.
Really? Yeah, they played that shit.
Speaker 1
Where was we after New Year's Eve when they were playing all the white slides? Yeah, no, Costa Rica. Yeah.
At the planet of Hollywood or whatever the fuck that was.
Speaker 2
You know when I usually see people doing the electric slide? When candy comes on. Candy by Cameo.
That's usually when I see people doing the electric slide. So I didn't know.
Speaker 1 It was the best man. Best man.
Speaker 1 I think it's just the best man.
Speaker 1 That wasn't. Is that where we're getting on? Yes.
Speaker 1 Isn't that where they do that?
Speaker 2 You know, people do it when they hear candy come on in the club or at a party.
Speaker 1 Candy comes on in the club?
Speaker 2 Cameo?
Speaker 1 Candy? Yeah, candy might come on, but of course. I've never seen people do the electric sliders in the club.
Speaker 1 What club is this? This is a Canadian thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2 Yeah, that's what I always thought the electric slider was done, too.
Speaker 1 Just for shits and giggles, and then I promise I have a prize picks ad and then
Speaker 1 shout out to prize picks.
Speaker 1 Can you show us what you know of the electric slider?
Speaker 1 Is it that bad?
Speaker 1 It will be. Flip or do it with you.
Speaker 1
Flip or do it with you. We will do it together, all three of us.
Come on, I don't care. Let's go, man.
Come on.
Speaker 1 Yo, this is about to be classic.
Speaker 1 Can we turn the music up a little bit?
Speaker 1 It's the same feeling. I always sing together,
Speaker 1 yeah.
Speaker 1 There's no mistaking.
Speaker 1 This nigga did the electric boot alone.
Speaker 1 You have the electric out of classes, yo.
Speaker 1
It's been a long time. You do now.
You get crazy at the regular clubs. I know you get crazy with that.
On that electric slide floor.
Speaker 2 Oh, so he's saved because
Speaker 1
he's got the boot on. Now I know how to do the electric slot.
Do it with with the boot on. It's with body that knows how to do the electric flight.
Do it with the electric boot.
Speaker 1 He knows how he knows how to do it. I promise you.
Speaker 1 He was just smart.
Speaker 2 Really? You've seen him do it?
Speaker 1
You know, Du Breeze? Yes. I put my chips to the table.
It knows how to do this.
Speaker 1 And it's putting it broke. You're going to be smart.
Speaker 1 Trust me. Do it.
Speaker 1 You're my complexion. Niggas out there with dirt roads.
Speaker 1
Oh, my lord. 100 motherfuckers doing electric lights.
Okay. Wow.
Parks.
Speaker 1
What episode? This is 821. That was the Joe Button podcast.
Welcome to episode 821 of the Joe Button Podcast. It is brought to you by.
Speaker 1 Brought to you by, fueled by,
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Speaker 1
Prize picks. I'm seeing a lot of.
Y'all shot a lot of commercials, boy, since that last one we did.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 Wait, what happened? Parks hit. Correct them.
Speaker 1 What's correct? What's cracked? Five.
Speaker 1 Huh? Four?
Speaker 1 Yes. Five, four.
Speaker 1 That's a nice crack.
Speaker 1
That's a nice crack. That's a nice crack.
Wow.
Speaker 1 Yeah, the polo's looking looking good.
Speaker 1 New Chucks. Polos.
Speaker 1
The Chucks are already fucked up. Nashville was rough on the Chucks.
White Chucks in Nashville was not a great decision. A six-player?
Speaker 1
It was a bunch of different ones. I was crazy.
Oh, all together. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you went to Tennessee? Okay.
Speaker 1
Nashville was like good to me. Nashville was like good to me.
I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 1 I ain't cracking them like you. When I was in Virginia, you could get busy too.
Speaker 1 Anyway, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, and highly favored host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people. To my right, the amazing Melissa Ford is back in the building.
Speaker 1
Welcome back. Thank you.
Fresh up for Curry Duck Fest.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 2
Shout out to Flip's wifey. Thank you, Thanksgiving.
And mother-in-law. Great to know.
And hell was down.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And the kids and family and just everything.
How'd that come about? I saw that. I saw it clip.
Speaker 1 I saw it too when I was home free and available. My mother-in-law is a good family.
Speaker 1
And hungry. Hungry as could be.
And that shit looked good. Craving for duck.
How that came?
Speaker 1
We were discussing it with Ian. He said he liked duck.
And I said, well, my wife, my mother-in-law, knows how to make Curry duck. And that's what.
And we set up a date. Then I got, I called Mel.
Speaker 1
I said, Mel, you know, we had Ian Crib, come through, get some duck. And, you know, I feel your spirit.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Might be down a little bit, but come through, you can have some fun with us.
Speaker 1 I like to move.
Speaker 1 Y'all got Ian Craig playing dunk?
Speaker 1 She came quick, too.
Speaker 1 Greedy ass.
Speaker 1 She said, oh my God.
Speaker 1
I said, what are you doing, man? I'm doing some electric shock therapy on my shoulder. I said, girl, you want some dug it, rote? Yeah, sure.
As soon as I hop the phone, ring.
Speaker 1
She at the door. I didn't even give her Ian's address.
She knew it.
Speaker 1 But yeah, it was fun. Shout it out.
Speaker 1
Hey, yo, it was the point. It was a point again, right? Mel was sitting on the couch.
I'm on my phone.
Speaker 1 She's just staring at me for man long, but I feel her staring at me to talk, but I'm ignoring her. So she told me, Can you turn the volume down off your phone? Because it's kind of loud.
Speaker 1
I said, That's kind of rude. Like, you don't mind my business.
I turn it down.
Speaker 1 I look to the left, and she's just looking like this.
Speaker 1
I said, Mel Gam, what's up? Talk to me, my nigga. You know, we just had a good conversation.
It was good to see Malman. It was great.
Speaker 1 Chop the dad.
Speaker 1 Chop him down.
Speaker 1 She said, you know that chopped me down, Flip. Can you continue? She said that
Speaker 1 she didn't chop me down. Okay, so Flip is here.
Speaker 2 Great.
Speaker 1
Yeah, Queen's Flip. Yeah.
Okay, all right. Get the money, y'all.
It's right.
Speaker 1 Get the money, y'all.
Speaker 1
King Wawaish is in the building. The freeziest of them all, Ice is here.
Mr. Take it further himself.
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Big Parks, Elm Irish Finance. Poet's here.
Corey is here.
Speaker 1 Erickson is here. Anybody else that's here is here on their own volition.
Speaker 1 Shout out to them niggas, too.
Speaker 1
How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's going on? What's going on? Talk to me now. I'm feeling clean, man.
It feels good to be home, man. I'm exhausted.
Oh, man.
Speaker 1
I did some peasant shit, bro. And I thought about all of y'all.
I was like, damn, I didn't want to let my family know, man. I caught a flat the other day.
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 Nah, that's not peasant shit.
Speaker 1 I changed the flat.
Speaker 1
No, that's bad shit. I think that's incredible.
Oh, well, cool. I will let that sound.
You should have rope flats, though. Your car has tires in the back in the trunk, huh? You had a spare?
Speaker 1
That's what this is. See? See? I didn't know.
See?
Speaker 2 So, wait, your fancy car doesn't come with a spare?
Speaker 1 No. Run flats.
Speaker 1
You had a spear in your car? Run flats. I had a spare on my car flat.
Oh, wait, you got the little secret compartment under the trunk.
Speaker 1 I got a wonder in the under.
Speaker 1 I got a lot of red shit.
Speaker 1 Hold on.
Speaker 1 Hold on.
Speaker 1
I don't know. You know the shit that it come with.
It's the bullshit, right?
Speaker 1 So I'm out there like this. Yo.
Speaker 1 Hey, yo.
Speaker 1
They got the little pack of tools. Yeah, still eat the young ass lug rich shit.
Look, I paid it together.
Speaker 1
I was like, yo, man. Where you was at? I was on the turnpike.
On the highway? Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 You fucking. You ain't got triple light enough for you? I do, but
Speaker 1
I just picked up Christmas. Oh, your car coming.
You ain't got the joint. You hit the button where they say, we'll come get you.
On star, I have all of that.
Speaker 1
But by the time I got it, I could just change it real fast and get the fuck out of here. Well, you was by yourself, right? It was starting to rain.
You by yourself? You changed it in the rain?
Speaker 1
No, it was about to start to rain. Wait, so it was.
I was trying to hurry with the dude. I didn't want to be waiting out there.
Wait, so it was thundering on your back.
Speaker 1
No. And then you would look up like this.
I was just like, man.
Speaker 1 I could sit here on a burnfight. 18-wheeler ride by burn.
Speaker 1 I could sit in here.
Speaker 1
Oh, I could just change this shit. Wait, get out of here.
You was by yourself? Yeah, I was by myself. Thank God.
Thank God. Thank God.
Speaker 2 Thank God missing piece wasn't there.
Speaker 1
Triple A with a and somebody almost hit you one time, too, right? No, I got over far, bro. Yo, you crazy.
That's dope, though. That know how to change the tire.
That's man shit.
Speaker 1
We don't know how to change the tire. For real, man.
Not a lot of guys out there know how to change the tire. Everybody here knows change the tire, right? Yes.
Yeah. Hold up.
We're men's men.
Speaker 1
I think the new niggas don't know how to change it. The new niggas don't know how to use it.
They don't even have tools, bro. They don't know how to do nothing.
That's real.
Speaker 1
I got triple A for a reason, though. I got them.
It's just, they take a minute. I had somewhere to be.
And I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to. How long have you been?
Speaker 1
You you put a spay on your drink? Yeah, I put the spay on your drink. You put a little donut on your drink.
You got a donut on the truck? No,
Speaker 1 I already got the tire after that.
Speaker 1 I had to drive, though.
Speaker 1 I baby nigga on the truck.
Speaker 1 Shit, man, I'm even driving.
Speaker 1 Oh, no.
Speaker 1 I'm like,
Speaker 1
now it's raining. What? Oh, nigga got a donut in that.
It rained, son. Yeah, it was bad.
Oh.
Speaker 1 I'm good.
Speaker 1
I was bad, man. I'm proud of you, though.
I got a triple weight for a reason, my nigga.
Speaker 1
I got run flats for a reason. I was about to say, yeah, I ain't never doing that.
That's some of the poorest shit I've heard.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you got a spare? Yo, look at the shit we shave. You got a spare in this trunk.
Speaker 1 Yo, your trunks lift up and it's a tire.
Speaker 1 Ain't even nothing fly. Oh, man.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry you went through that, though. Yeah, man.
That's rough, man.
Speaker 1 Did you feel like better, like on some man? You know, when you fix up at the crib, you feel like a man's man. Do you feel like that?
Speaker 1 No, nigga, I was tired.
Speaker 1 doing this shit, and then you gotta.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I was tired. Fuck that.
Tell you one thing: that the trunk on that motherfucking Ferrari is the size of them little pocketbooks, them bitches be wearing.
Speaker 1
No tire in there, you could put about 10 pennies in there. Shit made for a duffel or no, that's it.
I was mad for a second until I fucking felt poor.
Speaker 1
It's like, oh, all right, they didn't, they don't want you to put nothing in there. Yeah, yeah, because they ain't put nothing in there.
It's for your wallet, yeah.
Speaker 1
Exactly. So you're gonna sit on it.
Well,
Speaker 1 carry back. I'm glad you still remember how to fucking put a tire on the car.
Speaker 1
That's cool. That's what.
That man's man shit is what I'm saying. Oh, it's overrated.
Oh, it's way overrated.
Speaker 1 I ain't changing shit.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Listen, I build houses. I'm not changing on tire.
Speaker 1
I'm calling Triple A, my nigga. I'm good.
And I waited on the side of I-95 with my son in the back. How long? Solid hour.
See, I need to get up out of there. Yeah, he's a tough kid.
Speaker 1 He'll be all right.
Speaker 1 I had to get
Speaker 1 shit.
Speaker 1 Build tolerance. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 I'm not fucking with that.
Speaker 1 It's good to see each and every one of you guys.
Speaker 1 Happy being. Honestly, full crew up in here today.
Speaker 1 So, unfortunately, we have to start with a topic that has been taking over the internet.
Speaker 1 Yes. Again.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yes.
Again. Again.
Yeah, I remember this the first time I did. Yeah.
And the second time, I think. Yeah.
Every couple years. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Short answers. No.
Yes.
Speaker 1 Short answers.
Speaker 1
100 men men versus a gorilla. Unarmed men.
Men that can change tires or men that call AAA.
Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1
Put whatever men you want. No, the answer is always no, by the way.
All right, so you got no, Mark. Fuck no.
Ice. Gorilla coats and boots and shit for everybody, man.
We fucking that gorilla up.
Speaker 1 Ish. Fuck no.
Speaker 1
Flip. Nah.
You ever seen one of them shits in real person? In real life? Yeah.
Speaker 1 See 100 people, though? Jumping? Yeah.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Mel? A hard.
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Joe? No.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 that doesn't stop me from thinking about it.
Speaker 1 Oh, I think about it all the time.
Speaker 2 Wait, this has come up more than once.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1
This is a years-old internet debate. Yeah.
This is from years ago.
Speaker 1
The only difference now is they got AI and shit to like draw listeners together. Actually, do it to show it.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
show that. Niggas could barely knock a nigga out with a punch.
What are they going to do to hurt the gorilla? Right. Them girls' hands be like
Speaker 1 the gorilla arm be like,
Speaker 1 what they gonna do to hurt the gorilla? That's all I want to know. Like, how are they gonna hurt it with no weapons? I just like hearing questions where male ego gets to get to respond.
Speaker 1
That's why I say, yeah. So, so yeah, it's just fun.
They're gonna slam the dog shit up. When the first guy gets smushed, yeah, like the first 10 guys get their head ripped off,
Speaker 1
it's gonna scare about like 30 of them. But that's the thing.
100 men really mean probably 60, 40 to 60 men. Shit.
Yeah, at best. A hunt? 20 to 30? 12, nigga.
Speaker 1 Because a lot of people are going to die.
Speaker 1 People are going to die. Only 12.
Speaker 1 Not good die.
Speaker 1 Give me 100 crackheads, though. Because that's different.
Speaker 1 That's different. Crackhead strength a little different.
Speaker 1 I'm with freeze a little bit.
Speaker 1
I've seen crackheads do some shit. They're going to hold his leg and shit.
They're going to bite him. I'm with freeze.
I'm with freeze.
Speaker 1 You can throw a crackhead i see the crackhead climb a pole fall and climb back up for 100
Speaker 1 we talk about the street light poles i'm on the top and hold on tell a crackhead you got a hundred dollars for him yeah
Speaker 1 all right that gorilla ass is grass
Speaker 1 but fear starts to kick in once the gorillas start fucking the first 10 or 20 people up it's about 10 or 20 more people fearless that it would be like saying like how many 10 year olds could be could could could could you take like could you take 110 year olds
Speaker 1 10 year olds might die let me let me lower the number: six-year-olds, because that's probably more comparison to a gorilla to us. You think 100 six-years, you think you could beat 100 six-year-olds?
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 easy
Speaker 1 grandma, the first six-year-old and usually gets all the time.
Speaker 1 Once you get tired after like 25-30, because everybody's winning that six-year-old in the circle, you still got 70 more of them niggas to go. How are they gonna hurt you? They're biting on your ass.
Speaker 1 With the six-year-old teeth,
Speaker 1
I ain't gonna hurt. And this is how the gorillas think looking at us.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 The little punk-ass human teeth think I ain't doing shit. But
Speaker 1
yo, stop, yo. A hundred brave men, though, ish.
I'm calling the women to bring the bears.
Speaker 1
That's good. They're going to get that bear back in here.
Yo, yeah, yeah. That was the funny shit you said.
Speaker 1 Joe said there was a bear loose somewhere. And guess what? All the women ran.
Speaker 1 Joe, that was a funny shit. What did he fuck you talk about? Joe, that was a funny thing.
Speaker 1
I didn't see nobody. They got out of Sam's.
What's that little Connecticut Kroger?
Speaker 1 Oh, man. This shit's stupid.
Speaker 1 Here's a study that says that men overestimate their ability to fight by 400%.
Speaker 1 We talked about it.
Speaker 1
Forgive me. Okay, yeah.
Because to me, that's what the conversation seems like. When I watch people saying they could do it, I think we think we could do shit we can't.
Speaker 2 Right. What do you think leads to that thought process? Is it all the video games, like the first-person video games that you guys
Speaker 2 play all day?
Speaker 1 Ego.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 2 All right. But does this like help kind of build the ego?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 2 Okay. It's just naturally just daftness.
Speaker 1 You just
Speaker 1
don't think these niggas believe they could do that shit. Period.
I don't think in their heart of hearts they believe that. But the ego will allow you to say it.
Speaker 1 So a lot of niggas gonna say, yeah, we could do it. And also, people don't fight.
Speaker 1 Most people who talk about fighting haven't been in a fight or don't fight.
Speaker 1 So a lot of it is you estimate what you'll do in that situation, and men tend to think that their anger and their rage will carry them through.
Speaker 1 They think that shit Jason statham do is easy.
Speaker 1
Word like yo, I don't worry, man, I would have. No, you wouldn't, nigga.
So they throw that first punch and realize it ain't do what you thought it was going to do.
Speaker 1 I went to see that Jason Statum movie. I told y'all I was going to feel.
Speaker 1
How was that bullshit? The same as any other one. I ain't even see it.
So he worked for some Mexican family.
Speaker 1
They took the Mexican family daughter. And he really, Jason Statham really rocks with the family.
So now he go kill 970 people to get to the bottom. To get the daughter to get his daughter.
Speaker 2 So kind of like Man on Fire. Man on Fire.
Speaker 1
Kind of like every movie. The beekeeper, kind of like every Jason Stater movie.
But this one is like, dog, this ain't even your daughter.
Speaker 1
Nah, but we got a romantic. You killed 975 people.
He just fucked with off principle. Yeah, fuck with him.
Speaker 1
He taught her how to ride a bike. Don't worry about it.
He taught her how to ride a bike.
Speaker 1 They got a bomb. Hey,
Speaker 1
I saw an accountant, too, too. All y'all little jokes is exactly why I walked out with 20 minutes left on the clock.
I'm top sticking this shit. I'm going.
I had enough. They had an accountant, too.
Speaker 1
Yeah. In the movie theater.
It's in the theater now. Ben in it? Yeah.
Speaker 2 And John Burtonthal.
Speaker 1 And his brother. Oh, John Burtenthal.
Speaker 1 Yeah, the Johnniest.
Speaker 1
It was a good? No, I didn't like it at all. Accountant 2? I didn't like it at all.
I wasn't a fan of Accountant 1.
Speaker 1
Accountant 1 is fire. People love Accountant 1.
Accountant 1 is all the way fire.
Speaker 1 What a plot to us. Oh, they're brothers.
Speaker 1 Like, that was fire. This one,
Speaker 1
storyline is whack. The brothers are working together.
They ain't kill enough people.
Speaker 1
It's just not not in your bag. They didn't kill enough people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't kill enough of a hilarious movie review.
Speaker 1 Ben is on there acting like fucking Mark Lamont with his autism, just bullying people.
Speaker 1 He missed J-Lo.
Speaker 1 Fucked him up.
Speaker 1
Anyways, I wasn't trying to do movie reviews. I did go to the movies.
South Centers.
Speaker 1
Hey. After Last Pod.
We went to go see it. Maybe go freeze.
I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
Yes. Absolutely.
Yes. There we go.
Yes.
Speaker 1 I'm mad. I waited,
Speaker 1 but
Speaker 1 I like the development. It took a minute because I'm sitting there like, damn, I thought this shit was a vampire movie.
Speaker 1
And I ain't seen no vampires for a minute. Even when they popped up, I didn't realize that they were vampires off the rip.
Yeah, you wouldn't have, though.
Speaker 1 I'm going to let that go. You'd have trusted him?
Speaker 1
I'm going to let that go. Haikun every day wouldn't have noticed that they was the vampires.
I'm going to let that one go.
Speaker 1 He'd have thought that was the vampire. Come on in.
Speaker 1 Hey, come on, y'all. Why don't you play yourself?
Speaker 1 Hey, here's the arm.
Speaker 1
Stop. Wait.
I ain't put a game on the.
Speaker 1
Stop it. All right.
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 When did you notice it was vampires?
Speaker 1
No, when my man opened, when the Indian dude came to the door and he ran. Native Americans.
Excuse me. Yes, Native Americans.
My bad.
Speaker 1 Where we going on? Where the fuck?
Speaker 1 I apologize. But I didn't, my man was
Speaker 1
burnt up. I didn't put the two and two together right away.
Then the very next, I said, oh shit, that's the vampire. Got it.
That's all.
Speaker 1 But yeah, that shit was.
Speaker 1
I want to see it again. I've seen it twice.
I'm tight that I can't catch the 70 millimeter IMAX. For Delph?
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 1 You would have two of them joints.
Speaker 1 You were trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 Let me guess what it is.
Speaker 1 You have to figure it like you ain't seen it before.
Speaker 1 I had to tell you, look forward to this.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
She wasn't even jumping in the shit. She ain't did that before.
Vampire's biting people. She ain't jumping and shit.
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 Whoa, yeah don't act like y'all ain't did that
Speaker 1 and on top of that real quick the conversation you had about jordan pee and all that on the last part you know i saw a lot of people talking about your conversation that you brought up comparing the two and stuff like that that that was something that people were talking about i just wanted to say salute to you on on when you was talking about jordan pee and the comparison the sinners and the
Speaker 1 other movies you know the movies that he's done
Speaker 1 uh am i the person that brought that up yeah i don't i had to ask the question but you was kind of like
Speaker 1
against that. Yeah, you was against that.
I don't know the same kind of thing. That's what I said, but it.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't think I would have done that. No, no, hold on, hold on.
We were saying that we liked his movies.
Speaker 1
You and I were saying we liked his movies more than Cooler's movies more than people than him, yes. Yeah.
Ryan Cooler. Did we initiate that or were we?
Speaker 1
It kind of came. I forget how it came up now.
Me too. Because I'm not with dimming somebody's life
Speaker 1
or bigging somebody else up. No, no, no.
I think the movie got compared to
Speaker 1
the game. Get out.
Get out. Get out.
Speaker 2 Us. And he did.
Speaker 1
We started talking. The comparison came up.
Oh, because
Speaker 1
I brought up the movie that Marlon Wayne is in. Right.
The football movie.
Speaker 1
He brought up him. And you was like, nah, I don't want to.
I'm not excited about that. And then I asked why.
Speaker 1 That's it. I got it.
Speaker 1
That was mad. But shout out to Jordan Peel.
I don't want no smoke. That's just my mind.
That's just my mind. People were talking about it.
Like, what you said.
Speaker 1 Some people were upset, and some people, it was a debate.
Speaker 1 All right, I want you to take on, because me and Park's been getting dragged a little bit about, I don't know if you saw me and you've been, because we didn't like that scene the musical scene the montage scene I didn't like I didn't like the y'all a nuts I'm okay with being nuts and do y'all know that that was Raphael Fadik salute to one of the greatest greatest musicians and producers ever but I didn't like the drums it was the drums stop it sorry okay and we're both drummers so that actually might it might be a nerd drummer what so what I'm a drummer was it well you drum better
Speaker 1 what was the issue that you guys had with it the drums but like what about that what about about
Speaker 1 Swagger's Trapping? They were sold.
Speaker 1
There was just nothing to them. Yeah.
It was just like, meh. So that made y'all hate the whole scene? No, the scene was cool.
I'm talking about the music. Yeah, it wasn't the sound.
Speaker 1 Esonically, I didn't like it. Aesthetically, I thought it was beautiful.
Speaker 1
For me, it was a sound. Yeah.
And I liked the idea. Yeah.
It just, to me, wasn't executed the greatest. Yeah.
Oh, no, I ain't had nothing bad about it. I fucked with the music, the whole shit.
Speaker 1 I went and got the soundtrack. Listen, if I only didn't like 30 seconds of the movie, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1
And the rest of the music in the movie was great. It was just that one little scene.
I'm okay with with
Speaker 1 it.
Speaker 2 And I felt like the electric guitar kind of played a bigger role in that scene, though, than the drums.
Speaker 1
I don't know. That was what I heard.
And the movie told us he wouldn't like it.
Speaker 1 Mark not lie. I see what you're like.
Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1 you saw two, right? What did you think? Oh.
Speaker 1 About the entire movie? Yes. Yes.
Speaker 1 You had to see this coming.
Speaker 1 I think think it was highly overrated.
Speaker 1 You said what? Highly overrated.
Speaker 1 I think artistically it was dope,
Speaker 1 but I think it was highly overrated.
Speaker 1 Why? Like,
Speaker 1 what had it overrated? I think that what happened with the movie was the marketing was great, and I think that the people did a great job marketing the movie.
Speaker 1 Like, when I sit and talk to people about the movie before I saw it,
Speaker 1
it sounds like they regurgitating something that they read. Okay.
Like, some of these motherfuckers couldn't use some of those words if you paid them.
Speaker 1
Like, and it just sounded like somebody read some shit and then they just people were offering like dissertations on Twitter about it. And I think people read it.
And I think people read that.
Speaker 1 And it influenced their real
Speaker 1 assessment of the movie.
Speaker 2 So what did you think was like overrated? What were you expecting versus what you got? Good question.
Speaker 1 I think the plot was blah.
Speaker 1 I think
Speaker 1 some of the symbolism that people talk about, again, I think they read that. You know what I'm saying? I don't think people came up with that on their own.
Speaker 1 And then I've heard two, like, totally contrasting points of view. So I think that if you read one and you're like, oh, okay, that's what that meant.
Speaker 1
And then somebody else could have gotten something totally different. I think it was a great piece of art.
But again, art is subjective.
Speaker 1
I could look at a painting and you could get something from it that I don't get from it. I could get something totally different.
That's what I think it was. But as far as...
Speaker 1 But you just said it was a great piece of art.
Speaker 1
Yeah, the way it was shot. I think the cinematography and all that was dope.
I think the plot was.
Speaker 1
The storyline. You don't want the acting.
But what if somebody... The The acting was okay.
It was okay.
Speaker 1 I think
Speaker 1 I like Michael B. Jordan.
Speaker 1 I think that some, I don't think he gets in character well sometimes. Like, I think when you start doing a movie from the 1930s,
Speaker 1 we still speak too properly. I think when you're an actor, actor, you get into that.
Speaker 1
You change your grammar. You do all of that shit.
Nobody's using apostrophe S's in the 1930s when you was a sharecropper. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 Like, i just some of that don't be believable for me yeah but he was a little different because they moved up to chicago hit the big city and was working up there doing what they did so he got a different experience yeah he was al capon news yeah he was up that way so now he brought that back so yeah he's gonna talk a little different with that little city
Speaker 1 not been using apostrophe s's in the 1930s
Speaker 1 like why is that so far-fetched i don't know i have
Speaker 1 yes they did but yeah i think someone else up here even said that they didn't necessarily like the the i I didn't like some of the language. Some of the language did seem an acronym.
Speaker 1
That wasn't my particular one. That's the craziest thing.
Some of the slangs. I was giving an example, bro.
Speaker 1 Like, when you watch a slavery movie, right, or I watch Harriet Tubman, a slavery movie, people, slaves didn't speak like that. So it kind of comes off as like inauthentic.
Speaker 1 I had issues with some of the language too. Because I want the slaves to be portrayed the right way.
Speaker 1
What letter grade would y'all give? I would give the film, I would summon home in a way, like a B plus A minus. I'll say A minus is probably where I would land.
Okay. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Because I reserve A for like godfather level shit. But like, or if I were giving a letter grade, I'd probably give it like a 90, 92, right?
Speaker 1 Or a number grade, rather.
Speaker 1
B minus. B minus for you.
C plus, B minus. C plus B minus.
Okay. B minus, maybe.
Wow. Okay.
Speaker 1 It's definitely
Speaker 1
an A, A minus for me. I was an eight and a half to nine out of ten.
Yeah, yeah. So surprise.
Speaker 1 I'm kind of surprised because you're pro-black and you look at things from a pro-black lens when it comes to black people and the black director and all the things surrounding the film.
Speaker 1 so i thought that you were going there with that
Speaker 1 i did
Speaker 1 i did because i read it ish do you feel like that sometimes you don't like things because of the hype that comes with them
Speaker 1 um sometimes but i think if it lives up to the hype then i'm i'm on board you get what i'm saying like i think that if i saw this movie without ever seeing anything about it uh-huh like i'm not being contrarian i saw the movie it was it was okay to me i've seen movies that was big big big dup and when i saw it i was like okay that shit was fire you get i'm saying so it it's it don't do that for me.
Speaker 2 Do you think your opinion would have been different if you'd never heard a thing about it?
Speaker 1
Nah. I didn't hear a thing about the movie when I went in.
I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 I didn't know shit.
Speaker 1
I just watched it, enjoyed it. Can I ask you a controversial question? Me? Yeah.
Sure. I only thought of it because Flip just said that pro-black shit, which I do believe that you are.
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 But there's a clip going around of you saying that you didn't believe that black people should get reparations. Oh, I read that.
Speaker 1 Did you?
Speaker 1 I didn't see the the clip, but I read somebody say that how disappointed they were in him saying that.
Speaker 1 That he said that,
Speaker 1 because they need financial literacy. They said he said that black people,
Speaker 1 if they get the money, what, they're wasted or whatever, because they don't have financial literacy. What did you say?
Speaker 1
I'm waiting for you to finish that question. That's exactly what will happen.
No, I'm waiting for you to finish your question. I think that's what you asked.
I just ended your question.
Speaker 1 What about it? Do you believe black people should get reparations?
Speaker 1 No, I think black people should get equity, and I think the two are different. I think that
Speaker 1
I'm not really a fan of handouts. Like, I don't want your money.
I just want me to be able to make my money and you not be on my dick about making it.
Speaker 1
I don't think that if we get reparations, we're going to fare any better. Me personally, I don't think that.
So, I think reparations would be a waste for most.
Speaker 1 Some would definitely take the money and do some positive things with it, but I don't think it'll get us no better if we're not changing how we're being treated in America.
Speaker 1 I don't think reparations is going to change nothing.
Speaker 1 It's early in the show.
Speaker 1
Good. Go ahead.
Go ahead. No, I ain't.
Like, I don't want equality. I want equity.
So if you got a 500-year head start,
Speaker 1 and now me and Parks are able to both make $100 a day, Parks going to keep his 500-year head start.
Speaker 1 It's not. But if you got twice that much money.
Speaker 1 And then I got twice that much money and they still
Speaker 1 don't change the way that we are being treated, it's going to be futile and useless.
Speaker 1 But the way...
Speaker 1 Because you said before that
Speaker 1 it's about rich and poor.
Speaker 1 So the way we're being treated is because we're poor. No.
Speaker 1 I think that... Yes and no.
Speaker 1 So let me just finish. So if we did get the money,
Speaker 1 would it change how we're treated? Because they're not necessarily poor anymore. No, because they're not going to give you enough money for you to be rich.
Speaker 1 Reparations, they're going to have to give 13% of the population reparations. Then they're gonna decide if you got black blood, if you don't, like we're when we get the reparations.
Speaker 1 Um,
Speaker 1
one, the reparations don't come with um a financial literacy package to show you how to use the money to your best advantage. That I agree with.
That's number one.
Speaker 1 Number two, it's black people that make a shit ton of money today that still don't do nothing with the money and don't gain nothing in society just because they have money.
Speaker 1
So I don't think the reparations is the end-all-be-all. I think that's a cop-out for me.
It's my opinion.
Speaker 1 I would just say,
Speaker 1 one,
Speaker 1 and I get the idea of not taking handouts, but the whole argument of reparations is that it's not a handout, that it's owed, right? That it's a debt. Reparations literally means repair.
Speaker 1 Repair the damage done.
Speaker 1 So the idea is if you took, like you said, if you got a hundred-year-a head start and you took my money for 100 years and you exploited my labor, and all this stuff was built around our labor, universities, companies, insurance.
Speaker 1
The country. Yeah, the whole country, right? Every institution.
Then giving us reparations isn't a handout. It's actually
Speaker 1
what we're owed. And then the second part of that, I think, is I've never heard people say reparations is either or.
You know, I've been part of the reparations movement for a long time.
Speaker 1 Not like a leader of it, but just advocating for it. And every reparations person I know is also asking for voting rights, housing protections, other things.
Speaker 1 And then the last part of it is I think reparations should be a check.
Speaker 1 I think every descendant of slavery, to be clear, so I don't get hit on the internet, every descendant of American slavery here in the United States deserves reparations.
Speaker 1 But I also think in addition to the check, we we should also have access to free public education, like university education.
Speaker 1 We should also have, like, there's other things you can do systemically to close that gap in addition to the money. So I think we could.
Speaker 1 But when we talk about reparations overall, we're talking about the check.
Speaker 1 It's two different thoughts.
Speaker 1 You taking it when most people, in a general sense, talk about reparations, they're talking about a check. Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 That's fair. If you said, yo, do you think every descendant of slavery should get free education? I'm, yeah.
Speaker 1 And again, it just depends on. Would you be if you got all the other stuff, would you be okay with the check too?
Speaker 1
I wouldn't be turned down the check now. No, I mean, it's an idea.
I don't mean you should turn down me. Would you check?
Speaker 1 I just think that I don't think it's going to do what people think it's going to do.
Speaker 1 I think that a lot of times people just be like, yo, if I had, or my mother worked at such and such, I would be doing better. Or if all of that shit, to me, it's the same ideology, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 And it's funny that out of that Mandy interview, the shit that we highlight is the one thing that we ain't highlight nothing else. Oh, I didn't see the Mandy interview.
Speaker 1
We ain't highlight nothing else. All the other positive shit.
We definitely going to go to the negative shit, which I think is goofy, but it's cool.
Speaker 1
Again, I just think, I think. I don't.
That was a. I think the education is more important.
Speaker 1 I don't, I disagree with that. I think that you should be able to expound on something that sounds wild in an excerpt.
Speaker 1
So I brought it up so you could do that. Oh, I get it.
That was a good idea.
Speaker 1 I didn't mean for the
Speaker 1 deep dive. No,
Speaker 1 how I look at some of these issues, again, is definitely... definitely we've i've been up here four years how i look at some of these issues is definitely um
Speaker 1 uh on the opposite side of of many people
Speaker 1 but that's okay no i know i know i'm saying i stand in that i i i'm not i'm not against that i stand in what i believe in i think that um
Speaker 1 dave what dave chappelle had the thing about uh uh uh
Speaker 1 reparations he's like yo the cadillac dealership gonna be empty in two days shit like that like i just think that's what white people say to justify not giving it yeah i'm about to say it and so we cop Cadwax there.
Speaker 1
No, no. But no, it ain't even just to justify not giving it.
Them white boys got all that crypto money and bought every Lambo in them
Speaker 1
in the spot. But I'm just saying, we saw we saw something similar, not similar, but we saw when people got access to a whole bunch of extra money they didn't expect.
Darky and all that shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 And look what happened.
Speaker 1
I'm of the belief that that's not my business. True.
I'm not saying that y'all are right or that y'all are wrong. That ain't my business.
I'm going to go get that check and blow it. No, of course.
Speaker 1
Of course. It's funny.
Mine is blue box still.
Speaker 1
This is an aside, but it's kind of related. When I was in Nashville this weekend, we went to the Country Music History Museum or whatever, and they had some cars.
They had Elvis' car.
Speaker 1 It was diamond paint, gold-plated trim, TV in the back. Another dude's car had guns for the door handles and a gun on the front.
Speaker 1
I was like, this is all the shit that they yell at rappers about, like, violence and extremism. And country stars were doing the exact same shit in 1950 or whatever.
Anyway, sorry. Aside.
Speaker 1 knew that they need to do like a deep dive on elvis's real life and who he was i'm sort of a not a fan of elvis but like i'm fascinated by his story and all the extravagant shit he did um so anyway i don't fuck with elvis
Speaker 1 why you don't fuck with him because he was a racist
Speaker 1 i don't think he was i don't think he yeah i don't think he was i don't think he was okay culture vulture appropriation yeah yeah yeah i think he was racist though i think that and i think that the people that he engaged with back in the days appreciated the fact that he was coming in and supporting them let me ask you a question there's a lot of fake quotes about Ovis, though,
Speaker 1
a thousand of them. Okay.
Do you think Parks is a culture vulture?
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 1 So if Parks went on to take the things that he learned in black culture and made a zillion dollars with it. If Parks got on stage and started singing, You Ain't Nothing But a Hound Dog Without Gift,
Speaker 1
Yes. I'm going to call him a fucking culture vulture.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 Yes, I know.
Speaker 1 There was definitely artistic threats. But the threat.
Speaker 1 A thousand percent. But the people, those are his genuine friends.
Speaker 1 It doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 2 It doesn't matter. Like, look at
Speaker 2 this whole sinners conversation. A lot of people have been throwing the accusation at Ryan Koogler that he completely ripped off From Dusk Till Dawn.
Speaker 1 No, no, no. It's a different movie, too.
Speaker 2 Doggers of the Dusk or something like that.
Speaker 1
I'll find the name. Okay, but really.
Like, even from the...
Speaker 2 But really, it's about From Dusk Till Dawn because it's a very similar storyline. It's very, very similar, you know.
Speaker 1 Stylistically too similar.
Speaker 2 Exactly. But what a lot of people don't seem to understand or are like willfully ignoring is the fact that he has basically said he's paid homage to that.
Speaker 2 It's not like he has basically said, oh, I came up with this a completely original story. No, he has paid homage to that.
Speaker 1 And there's plenty of filmmakers and artists in general that remix or borrow from some other story.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 2 so I'm finishing my point and basically saying, like, it's one thing if you, you know, take somebody's idea and you give them absolutely no credit for it.
Speaker 2 It's another thing if you're saying, i was inspired by this particular piece of work that was done by this particular person and you give them the credit that's completely different therefore
Speaker 1 i want to be careful with the language took somebody's idea i do want to be careful with that
Speaker 1 the the people that elvis covered like big and gave him permission and bigged him up for it and he it was reciprocated he showed them love he went back there and supported them so they they were fine with it it's like now in retrospect when we look back we have these issues but the people in that time were fine they bigged him up they talked about him and they they were
Speaker 1 appreciative of what he was doing with their music. I think the truth is kind of in the middle, a part of it.
Speaker 1
Elvis was really steeped in the tradition. Like Elvis loved to sing gospel.
Elvis had gospel tones. Elvis was into race records,
Speaker 1
black music. He covered Big Mama Doron because he could get that record somewhere else.
That's because the system was racist.
Speaker 1 They wouldn't allow Hound Dog to be a hit from anybody but Elvis.
Speaker 1 I don't see Elvis as stealing. I see Elvis as being a useful
Speaker 1
tool for an industry that was stealing and extracting black art. I agree.
And so for me, it's like, was Elvis interpersonally racist? Everybody I've ever spoken to about Elvis has said no.
Speaker 1 They've said he actually was good with
Speaker 1
fly with black American. Embedded in black culture.
And deeply embedded in black culture.
Speaker 1 And what we started to see, just like with Tommy Hilfiger, was these
Speaker 1
rumors and quotes. Only thing a black could do for me is shine my shoes.
These are things Elvis never actually said. Just like Tommy Hilfiger never said, like,
Speaker 1 I don't want black people to wearing my clothes.
Speaker 1 That was, that was,
Speaker 2 I was about to say, that was that very pervasive rumor that I was talking about.
Speaker 1 I don't know about that one.
Speaker 1 I'm rolling with, I was outside back then.
Speaker 1
I'm believing he said that. Well, I mean, Tommy Hilfiger, I can't, I can't.
I don't know what he thought. He didn't say that.
But I'm saying it was a quote attributed to him that was fake now.
Speaker 1
But he might have meant it. He might have felt it.
I don't know. But I'm saying he didn't actually say that.
And Elvis. Tommy ain't my motherfucker.
Speaker 1
But with Elvis, so Elvis is a whole lot. And I don't want to be a cape in for Elvis because there's plenty.
I think about Tom Silverbridge. No, I know.
Speaker 1 The biggest thing about Elvis to me is that there were just so many other black artists who were far more talented, far more gifted.
Speaker 1 We hear Quincy Jones talk about that, or even talk about the Beatles, you know, talk about Ringo Drummond.
Speaker 1 Like, there's a way that he just became a symbol for something that he wasn't that talented at.
Speaker 1
But Elvis also was phenomenally talented. Elvis was a wonderful singer and a good artist.
You know what I mean? He just wasn't who we thought he was. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 So I don't want to call him a racist, but I would say he's part of an industry.
Speaker 2 But who did we think he was?
Speaker 1
Him? The king of rock and roll. He was stealing shit from blacks that couldn't get on the mainstream stage.
Like he could get on the mainstream stage.
Speaker 1
It didn't necessarily mean that I'm not fucking with the black people. It just means they would take literally like Joe could perform a record, like in the 20s or 30s.
Joe could perform a record.
Speaker 1 They could take the whole fucking record and make the Beach Boys or somebody else
Speaker 1 re-sing the song. And so because Joe wouldn't get mass,
Speaker 1
what is it, distribution? Mass anything back then. Back then, Mass Anything.
Couldn't do a show. You might have only heard Joe locally.
Speaker 1 and then now you hear the same exact song that Joe might have wrote and sung nationwide on some other fucking.
Speaker 1 No, I do want to be careful with the term steal because I do know for some of those songs, the original black artist is still credited as a songwriter, still receiving publishing.
Speaker 1 Whether or not they got fucked in publishing is a whole different thing. We're talking about systematic shit.
Speaker 1 As opposed to like Led Zeppelin, for example, who were straight up taking blues records and not crediting anybody. There's a little bit of a difference.
Speaker 1 From what I heard and understood back then,
Speaker 1 you wouldn't even know Elvis is stealing some shit.
Speaker 1 Swag, man.
Speaker 1
He more was saying Elvis ain't shit. Swag, yeah.
Yeah, like, yo, you was coming to the club, seeing how we were, seeing how we was singing. You took that shit and you took it to mainstream America.
Speaker 1 And I think they made zillions of shit.
Speaker 1
And me, I see that blueprint very much prevalent today. For sure.
So Elvis is my earliest knowledge of that happening. For sure.
That. For sure.
Speaker 1
But there was a guy that was moving like him. I don't know who came from.
Jackie Wilson. Right? Yeah, Jackie Wilson.
Jackie Wilson.
Speaker 1 They had Richard,
Speaker 1 Richard Malawi, Chucker, and all. And then I heard
Speaker 1
that I heard when Jackie Wilson got sick, because remember, he was in a coma for a bunch of years. Elvis helped him out.
So, like, thanks. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Do you have Elvis tattooed on you? No.
Speaker 1
No. But you do have white people tattooed on you.
I do. Who?
Speaker 1 Three. Oh, Laura.
Speaker 1 I love Lamar.
Speaker 1 Mark don't know.
Speaker 1
He's not like a Mount Rushmore on his chest. I didn't know this, but this is fascinating.
Who? No, it was, it was, okay. Frank Sinacho.
Are they really white people or is this like a G?
Speaker 1
Hold on to me. Hold on, wait.
You said, are they really white people?
Speaker 1
Before I found out James Stewart was racist, I got James Stewart. I got Carrie Grant.
It's more than fucking with me today. I swear to God.
Show him something. No, I'm not showing him.
Speaker 1
I need to see it. He had a tattoo on his shoes.
You got James Stewart. Hold on.
Carrie Grant, you said?
Speaker 1 It's from the movies In Affair to Remember. And what's the other movie we have? It's a wonderful life.
Speaker 1 It's a wonderful life.
Speaker 1
It's just scenes that meant something to me. That's okay.
And movie.
Speaker 1
That's all we're about. I'm going a cover, though.
I'm covering.
Speaker 1
Do y'all want to... I'm talking about Marvin Gaye.
I was about to say, while we're on the topic. I was trying to make a segue earlier.
I was hating. I was disgusting, you motherfucker.
Speaker 1
I'm about to put Marvin Gay on my body, nigga. Watch yourself.
You be the first man.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
Hey, you be gay whistling, yo. You be gay whistling.
How is that gay whistling? Stop gay whistling, man. Nobody putting no Marvin Gay for any
Speaker 1
stop. The whole point of the population is to fuck you up.
Wait, so you're offended at the thought of having Marvin Gay on you, but not by
Speaker 1 Braun Stewart or whoever the fuck you call it.
Speaker 1
I am a man. I'm a motherfucker.
He said,
Speaker 2 you should cover up that Jimmy Stewart. I am.
Speaker 1
I am. No, I am.
I'm talking about that.
Speaker 1
Terrence Howard said. You got to put Tupac on your cheeks, nigga.
Terrence Howard says he did not accept a role to play Marvin Gaye because of rumors that Marvin Gaye might have been gay.
Speaker 1 Terrence Howard is quickly becoming one of my favorite people to speak on podcasts, whether he's telling the truth or lying. I don't really care.
Speaker 1 At this point, it's just entertaining to listen to.
Speaker 1
Yeah, he's going to get you one every day. But I could definitely see Marvin.
I think Quincy Jones even mentioned this in the interview. He said the interview.
He said he was fucking somebody.
Speaker 1 I know a man who was in a relationship with Marvin Gaye.
Speaker 1
Oh, wait, so we're uncovering some shit. Yeah, I know a man who was in a relationship with Marvin.
Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 A relationship, but was he just like
Speaker 1 blown out?
Speaker 1 If you beep it, I'll tell you who it was.
Speaker 1
Oh, shit. I definitely bleep that.
Cover your mouth. Cover your mouth.
Cover your mouth.
Speaker 1 No, because they read it. That's funny.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 he was fucking
Speaker 1 Okay, you have to keep going. All right, okay.
Speaker 1
All right. Yeah.
That's about relationship, not just. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Well, I have
Speaker 2 Terrence Howard's quotes here. It was during an appearance on Bill Maher,
Speaker 2 a club random, and he revealed that he once turned down playing Smokey Robinson in a biopic because he was already working with Lee Daniels on potential Marvin Gay project.
Speaker 2 However, things took a turn after Quincy Jones allegedly confirmed to Howard that Marvin Gaye was gay.
Speaker 2 I could not, Howard said, explaining why he ultimately felt like he wouldn't be able to play Marvin Gay. They would have wanted me to do that, and I wouldn't have been able to do that.
Speaker 2
No, because I can't fake it. And so he said, I can't play that character 100%.
I can't surrender myself to a place that I don't understand.
Speaker 1 That's funny, because if I have a hustle and flo, I'd thought he was gay.
Speaker 1 Really?
Speaker 1
Really? And hustle and float. Hustle and floe.
What made you think that? I think it was gay hustling flow, Joe.
Speaker 1 Really?
Speaker 2 Gestures.
Speaker 1
I think a lot of that shit from pimp land can be interpreted. The mannerisms of a lot of pimps are too shit.
Are a feminist. So I got a lot of feminine mannerisms of a lot of pimp shit.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I'm not dare saying that about Terrence Howard, by the way. I'm not playing with him like that.
Speaker 1
Please don't. Got it.
But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1
that was intriguing. And I believe Quincy Jones.
I believe certain black people, when they talk, I believe them. Quincy Jones and Lil Richard, they're on the list for me.
Speaker 1 I mean, Marvin Gays wasn't gay. I mean,
Speaker 1
it was complicated. And I find it fascinating.
Oh, it's like that tank thing. Marvin Bai.
Speaker 1 It's like when Tank said you could suck a dick and not be gay. And shout out to Tank on Broadway.
Speaker 1 Still worshiping.
Speaker 1 Still wants us to go. Please leave the gays alone.
Speaker 1
Yo, I'm lost. I'm a little bit of a family.
You know, they don't play. I'm lost.
Speaker 1
Oh, the gays family. I was saying, Leave the gays alone threw me off.
I was like,
Speaker 1 so backing up, Marvin Gaye.
Speaker 1 Or not.
Speaker 1
Backing up. Not backing up.
Yeah, black items.
Speaker 1 Let's surround it by children. Where's the gorilla?
Speaker 1
Marvin Gaye obviously dated women. He dated Anna Gordy, Jan.
He dated Barry Gordy's. I mean, we know the whole story about Marvin Gaye and his dating life, right? A lot of it.
Speaker 1 But there are a lot of people in Hollywood who said that Marvin also had dalliances with men.
Speaker 1 And what's ironic to me is his dad was a cross-dresser. And part of why Marvin Gaye, his father, Marvin Gaye Sr., just G-A-Y-I no E at the end, was a cross-dresser.
Speaker 1 And if you ever watch a clip of Marvin Gaye's dad, I mean, to me, he is the most obviously gay person in human history.
Speaker 1
But he and Marvin had a tug of war over that. So Marvin's whole life was about sexuality.
What terms that I wouldn't use? Exactly.
Speaker 1
I thought the term was he disrespected his mother. His father was disrespecting the mother.
That's what led to him being shot.
Speaker 1 That's what led to him being shot.
Speaker 1 But they had a long battle over his dad being closeted was part of it. They had a battle over him, Marvin being, leaving the gospel rec world and not just going to the...
Speaker 1 the R ⁇ B world when he was or the soul world when he was at Harvey, the moon glows, and he was doing like doo-up stuff to when he became like a heartthrob.
Speaker 1 His dad thought that that shit was was not was too worldly even though his dad clearly was gay and would wear women's clothes he'd put on his mom's clothes
Speaker 1 i'm real glad that i missed the 70s oh yeah like sometimes i sometimes i get regretful like damn man
Speaker 1 my parents couldn't early i had a blast in the 70s but on the flip side of that i'm really glad i missed the 70s some of that that was going on back then like all of this Marvin gay shit that he talking about, fucking Bobby Womack doing all that shit and then having a song talking about, I wish you wouldn't trust me so much.
Speaker 1
That's kind of crazy. Fucking homeboy with the grits.
Nigga,
Speaker 1 I shouldn't be alive.
Speaker 1 I'm not going to be alive in no decade where a nigga going to take a hot pot of grits and throw it in my face. That's not going to happen again.
Speaker 1 That's going to be the end of the house's experience. You think that's not happening today?
Speaker 1
All of the shit that was going on in the 70s is happening today. He's not all over the world.
I think it's a lot more creative in the 70s. I don't know.
I think it's a lot more creative.
Speaker 1
I think it's more creative. I'm going to be on camera, camera, though.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Niggas ain't even me. Man, we got resources.
Speaker 1 Niggas can't even make grits today.
Speaker 1 Wake up.
Speaker 1 You ever wake up, Angel Girl, make some grits? What's that grit?
Speaker 1 But anyway. But that Morgan Gay biopic is going to be fire.
Speaker 2 I mean, they keep trying.
Speaker 1 My thing with Terrence Howard is: were they going to expose in the movie that he was gay?
Speaker 2
Absolutely. Lee Daniels was at the helm of that ship.
Hell fucking yeah. It was going to be a fully flushed out story, complete with probably some some salacious gotcha You know game sex scenes
Speaker 1 how do people how do studio 54
Speaker 1 We would have been in that piece you know how you know how these days we have social media We have phones right back in the days How do they know were they flaunting it in front of each other?
Speaker 1 I think as I'm saying like how would Quincy know that rats and snitches
Speaker 1 in parties
Speaker 1 So they were flaunting it in parties I mean flaunting okay I'm about flaunting it but you probably see them necking over in the corner somewhere
Speaker 1 Plus, there's drugs and alcohol and shit. Mars Studio 54, though.
Speaker 1
More studios 54, though. I watched that already.
I said, hey, yo, I'm going downstairs with Grace Jones. Y'all be back.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1
Yeah. If Grace Jones tells me to go downstairs at the party, I'm going.
I'm going. Hell, my mom.
Are you fucking crazy?
Speaker 1
I respect you. Yo, what's up? And I'm not going back.
I'm trying to keep us down there, too.
Speaker 1 No, I'm some more upstairs.
Speaker 1 In that interview, Bill Mars said something to Terrence Howard. He said, he wasn't gay.
Speaker 1
You know, some guys just get so much pussy, you just be like, fuck it, whatever. I'm going to fuck a bat and a guy's asshole.
What did you make of that? I want to know that.
Speaker 1 What did y'all make of that comment? I want to know that.
Speaker 1
I've heard a lot of different people. A lot of people say that though.
A lot of people say that.
Speaker 1
Let me know. They have so much.
They fuck so much women that
Speaker 1 99.
Speaker 1 Let me know.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 2 99.
Speaker 1
A hole is just a hole. No, no, it ain't.
I'm just reiterating what you were saying.
Speaker 1
I said at 999, if the thousandth person is going to make you do some bullshit, it's pleased. I'm stopping right here.
Stop with your old school lines.
Speaker 1 Crazy? I'm good. But we support people living however they want to.
Speaker 1 Whatever you want to do is your business.
Speaker 1 The crazy thing about Marvin to me was him dating a teenager, not him.
Speaker 1
I mean, and whooping Tammy Terrell's ass. Like, to me, those are the things that we should be outraged by.
To me, if I'm Marvin Gaye, I mean, if I'm Terrence Howard, I'd be more...
Speaker 1 I wish he were more outraged by those parts or disturbed by those elements of his character. Not artistically.
Speaker 1
Because artistically, he's saying, like, yo, I wasn't going to be able to get into and embrace the gay scenes they would have had me play. But artistically.
No, I get it.
Speaker 2
But he can embrace being a woman beater. He has no problems with that.
I feel like that might be what you're saying. Yeah.
Speaker 1 He said dating a teenager.
Speaker 2 And dating a teenager.
Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's got to get romantic
Speaker 1 with that teenager.
Speaker 1
If we're going according to the story. He's a relative of his wife.
Yeah. I mean, this is artistically.
You got to get in a lot of funky places.
Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 Saying if you have like a moral if it's like morally abhorrent to you to play a gay man but you don't have a problem being a portraying a wife beater like luckily for us it's my favorite time of the showed that you guys killed it.
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Speaker 1 Y'all want to talk about the draft a little bit? I know we did last pod,
Speaker 1
but now he's actually drafted Shador Sanders fifth round. Yeah, that's crazy.
So I need your opinion on it because again, I'm not a football person, but when we were here last.
Speaker 1 Oh shit, wait, before we do this,
Speaker 1 off the Marvin Gaye conversation you were having, do you listen to Marvin Gaye still?
Speaker 1 Do I listen to Marvin Gaye? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1
Okay, back to Shador. Yeah.
And the reason, just to answer for the implicit critique there, is some of it is about the era, you know, and some of it is about like how, what is the limit.
Speaker 1
Like for me, like sex abuse is the limit for me. That's just my line.
It's an arbitrary line. Somebody says domestic abuse is theirs.
I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1
Don't listen to James Brown, who also beat up Tammy Terrell. Don't listen to Miles Davis, who beat up Sisily Titan.
I mean, we could do that down the road.
Speaker 1 Why would you stop telling people all this people? This is in all these women's biographies.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't name this up. Damn it.
Speaker 1
But, like, I'm good with that. I just have my arbitrary line.
Mine's not right. It's just my arbitrary line.
You know?
Speaker 1
Nothing wrong with that. Yeah.
You ain't cutting off that sexual hair.
Speaker 1
You tried to find an educated way to say it. Nigga, we playing.
I want you, boy. You got the flats.
Wake up, wake up, wake up. Niggas ain't taking that Marvin out there.
Speaker 1
But anyway, Ari Shadur, drafted, fifth round. You were saying.
I was saying that when we were here last time, he hadn't been drafted in the first round. And I asked you all, was it football?
Speaker 1 Was it personal? Was it race? You know, because I don't, again, I don't know his talent because I don't watch football.
Speaker 1 The next day, second round, third round, fourth round, it started looking really funky. But then I read some reports and I'd heard some things from people on the ground who were reporters.
Speaker 1 And they were saying he had a terrible interview. He was acting like he didn't, he was acting like he didn't want to,
Speaker 1 he was going to dictate the process. And then other people just said he just didn't have the talent to justify all the headache.
Speaker 1 And so I started to say, shit, I don't know what, again, I don't know what's right.
Speaker 1 And I heard people like Bermani Jones, who I respect, his opinion on this, say, you know, why would maybe we should question why he was projected to go so high in the first place.
Speaker 1 Maybe he was never a first-round pick in the first place in real life to the people who were actually doing the drafting.
Speaker 1
So, like, with all that information, do y'all feel different about saying that this wasn't about football? Well, my original stance was, all things are true. Right.
Yeah. That was my original stance.
Speaker 1
That's what mine. And I stand by it.
The fifth round was egregious to me, but
Speaker 1
yeah, I still don't see that fifth round. I think his family plays a part.
I think him being a distraction plays a part. I think him blowing off the entire draft process plays a part.
Speaker 1
He didn't do no pro day. He didn't do the other thing over here everybody else did.
I do believe he was arrogant. I do believe there were bad interviews.
Speaker 1
I don't believe that that quarterback that the Browns took in the fourth round with pick 99 is better than him. No, he's not.
I don't believe that. There were a few quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 There were a few quarterbacks taken that just highlight some other things.
Speaker 1 So I'm not saying that Roger Goodell sent out an email like that rumor that's going around now saying that he told teams to take him off of the draft board.
Speaker 1 I think that the Cleveland Browns, when they look back at their faces when they drafted Chador and how stoic they looked and just playing in the face, I think that may come back to haunt them at some point.
Speaker 1 It just looks like, from the optics of it, it looked like there were things that had nothing to do with football that played a part. I think everything that everybody had to say on the topic is true.
Speaker 1 And it's true that he may not have been a first-round pick originally. It's true that we might have bit the marketing bug, right?
Speaker 1
It's true that, listen, Dion had Gilly and everybody else come down to Colorado every week. It looked like a movie.
They went from one win to nine wins.
Speaker 1 Like, you see how it could get, you see how it could get.
Speaker 1 Most of the people that I watch that are like real, real like draft draft people, like that's that's what they do for a fucking living, said that talent-wise, he was probably like a second-round pick, although most people probably still had him in the first round because of the value of a quarterback position.
Speaker 1 Um,
Speaker 1
yeah, fifth round was absolutely crazy to me. I thought for sure I was gonna go in the second round.
What I don't get is, like you said, talent-wise, second-round pick, football is still business.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so there's some teams that he'll get people in the seats just because he's here. Yeah, we ain't necessarily going to win, so I don't understand it going all the way to fifth.
Speaker 1 But he has to be your starter, right? You don't want to lose a first-round pick for a a battle.
Speaker 1 Put them in position to compete at least for the round. The problem,
Speaker 1 and it's teams that don't have, I'm a Steelers fan. We don't have a quarterback right now.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and y'all also. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 Y'all also are playing the Aaron Rodgers sweepsticks, and y'all don't want to piss off Aaron Rodgers by drafting a young quarterback that's going to get all the attention.
Speaker 1 I think that some of it.
Speaker 1
One analogy that it reminded me of a little bit. And y'all drafted Will Howard.
I'm sorry, Parks. Yes, sir.
And y'all did draft a quarterback. So y'all are
Speaker 1
amongst the teams that drafted a quarterback that wasn't Shadur. Y'all, y'all are.
Is Will Howard better than Shadur? No. No.
No. Okay.
Speaker 1 It kind of reminds me a little bit of the Tim Tebow situation.
Speaker 2 He's in the opposite direction.
Speaker 1 I know, but listen, he's a good player.
Speaker 1 Deserves to be on a team, but I think that a lot of teams probably look at like, hey, man, if he's the backup quarterback and he's going to bring all the...
Speaker 1
ESPN spent three straight days talking about nothing but Shadur Sanders. I see.
Shit totally shitted on Cam Ward.
Speaker 1 That's going to be my next point, is that Cam Ward should be getting a lot more attention and praise because he's a really good fucking quarterback and deservedly went number one. Anyway.
Speaker 1 It reminded me of Tim Tebow, and a lot of teams probably don't want the distraction.
Speaker 1 Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 It reminded me of what's Homeboy, the black dude, that I saw the dark on, Michael, the gay dude. Or Michael Sam?
Speaker 1
Oh, Sam's. Michael Sam.
Yeah, who was a much better player than where he was drafted.
Speaker 1 They were waiting to kind of see the NFL's position on, all right, what y'all gonna do with homeboy that won all these awards. That's clearly good, but might come.
Speaker 1 I think I ain't hear what y'all said on Friday. That's not fair.
Speaker 1 No, no, to be clear,
Speaker 1
you're not saying he was going to. Okay, I don't got to clean it up for you.
Not at all, buddy. Yo,
Speaker 1 my post here, I don't play.
Speaker 1 I don't play.
Speaker 1
We had your back, but I said, That won't even be there. Like, imagine it.
Didn't have any post.
Speaker 1 Anyway.
Speaker 1 I think similarly to
Speaker 1 the Bronny conversation, I think you ought to have a sports conversation and then you got to have a societal conversation.
Speaker 1
I think from a sports standpoint, I think he's tough, bro. He's good.
I think the shit that I don't like that the media is trying to downplay his talent. For sure.
Speaker 1
I think that's a justification on him not being drafted over some societal shit. That boy threw over 4,000 yards.
They went from a team that had one win to four to nine with a shitty O-line.
Speaker 1 Like what he accomplished in Colorado is outstanding. And I hate the fact that they try to downplay that a little bit and make him seem talentless or lack like he's lacking in talent.
Speaker 1 I think that's whack. Why do they keep highlighting his
Speaker 1 arm,
Speaker 1 his slow release, things that you can't necessarily work on
Speaker 1 that won't get better? What do you say to that? I think that if you put people in the right situations, it's always knocks on talent. Right? I think it's always, oh, he's too short.
Speaker 1 Oh, this guy's this, oh, this guy is that.
Speaker 1 Like, they used to criticize black quarterbacks periodically saying that we couldn't read defenses fast enough or we didn't have the mental fortitude and aptitude to play the quarterback position.
Speaker 1
They would make great quarterbacks cornerbacks in safeties. That was tough.
You get what I'm saying? So I think the Knox.
Speaker 1
We don't have to do. They drafted four Colorado receivers.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 One of his receivers
Speaker 1
the Colorado receivers. One the Heisman's fucking trophy.
My nigga, somebody was throwing them the ball. For sure.
But sometimes. His tape is his tape.
Sometimes that can work against.
Speaker 1
But it's not a receiver makes you think that. The best receivers are that good.
It's a possibility. And there was a lot of yak going on there.
Speaker 1
But Dog played behind arguably the worst offensive line in the existing college football movie. When he wasn't hurried or under pressure, his turn.
The completion percentage was almost 80%.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they turned that, and he has a lot of titles for loss. But dog,
Speaker 1 look what's happening out here. Now
Speaker 1 that to decide, I don't think it's tough to recognize when someone has a focus issue. I don't think it's that tough.
Speaker 1 If I'm interviewing you for a gig and I know what this gig is going to call for in the next two years, like that clip between Cam Ward and Shadur, where Cam is like,
Speaker 1
yo, I just want to be a football player, dog. All that extra shit, I don't care about it.
When you Google me, I wanted to say American football player, not rapper.
Speaker 1
He was like, yeah, you got everything handed to you. You did this.
You did it this way. Don't worry.
I'm trying to do it this way.
Speaker 1
It just highlighted the difference in attitudes for what the next step is going to call for. They said he had a horrible Giants interview.
Oh, Shadua. Shadu.
They said that interview was atrocious.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I'm a Giants fan.
So I've seen Dable
Speaker 1
have those quarterback meetings and he ain't playing in there. Yo, draw it up this scheme.
Draw it up that scheme. All right, show me when X is W.
All right, turn Y to. He ain't playing.
Speaker 1 So if you're unprepared in that, And you're and oh, and the report is that not only was he unprepared, but he had an attitude
Speaker 1
when he got called for it. He got called out on it.
Dog, I'm not, if that's true, because I'm not just putting that on the black man without knowing.
Speaker 1 But if that's true, yeah, it ain't hard to see why people would be like, you know what? Nah. And
Speaker 1 with the coaching carousel that's going on, now I got to draft you and have your dad waiting in the tuck
Speaker 1 to where every time I lose a game, my head coach is under fire because Deion Sanders is waiting.
Speaker 1 I could see why teams did that.
Speaker 1 Don't you think that that? And I still think race is involved.
Speaker 2 I was going to say, don't you think that that actually could could have preceded him walking in any door?
Speaker 1 Yes, all but he didn't he didn't make it he didn't make it any better for himself though That's what we're saying.
Speaker 1 I think all of that could have preceded himself But then you walk in there and be like what I was told I know was that he pulled the Dion in one of them interviews where it's like yo, I'm not even gonna be I'm just talking about I'm just talking about confirmation bias if you already have an impression based on the marketing campaign that's been done around this kid and you think that he he thinks his shit doesn't stink and his father's a fucking pain in the ass and you really actually don't want to do this interview and he says anything that's going to be that you know the words and actions got to line up they don't have to but i think well when they don't it's going to be recognized the giants the last thing the giants wanted was for shador to have a fucked up interview with dable the giants spent the last 17 months looking at this kid yeah
Speaker 1 Teams got their best people spending money invested on finding out everything there is to know about your life. So hearing something is one thing.
Speaker 1 You coming in the door smelling like last night, your eyes looking like you didn't get no sleep. I'm not talking about your door now, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1
Things that people are looking for that are demanding things out of you for the next level. Yeah, no, this is deeper than just rumors.
I think, I think, I think, um,
Speaker 1
we're the racist. Dog, he had party.
I'm sorry, ish. He had parties set, and I'm not saying something is wrong with this, but there are people that think something is wrong with this.
Speaker 1 He had parties set up
Speaker 1 for the whole weekend of the draft.
Speaker 1 That's cool. This, uh, being black is not a monolith so if you want to celebrate that way cool but when Cam Ward is is get drafted and go tuck in focus looking at video getting with receivers
Speaker 1 it looks different is all I'm saying
Speaker 1 and he didn't show up and do a small it wasn't like he showed up and just had a rude interaction he didn't know the play he
Speaker 1 had to come in it would be like if you came in and read a script and you did you hadn't read it and you just said I'm just gonna I'm gonna stop yeah yeah like that's what he did and then he got an attitude when he's like why you read the script you know it's that level of unpreparedness that's a lot
Speaker 1 But do I think that he's going to eventually start in Cleveland this season? Yes. Do I think that? Do I think that,
Speaker 1 trust God at all times? Do I think that he sounds a lot more humble
Speaker 1
since? So, yes, I believe the NFL tried to humble him. Yeah.
Yes, I also believe it worked a little bit. Did it work? And he now sounds a little more humble.
I think when you have, it's a few things.
Speaker 1 I believe that, I'm sorry. I believe he fell into probably one of the better spots that it was to fall in, Cleveland, who ended up trading back.
Speaker 1 Still ends up with him. Do you think that his father co-signs this arrogance?
Speaker 1 I think that his father is the best person in the world to prepare him for what is going on right now, the same way I feel about LeBron and Brownie.
Speaker 1 I think that, to your question,
Speaker 1 I think that
Speaker 1
because don't you think his father would have told him, yo, nigga, get your shit together. We're not doing that.
You represent your family.
Speaker 1 He just falls out, yes.
Speaker 1 I i think it's nuanced no because his father was part of the problem his father was on interviews saying i'm gonna make sure that my son does not go to certain teams he did that in more than one interview he did that for two years straight he's also said yo be clear we don't need the nfl we rich already When you start saying shit like that publicly, then you got to take what comes with that.
Speaker 1
You can't now tuck your tail and say, yo, they treating us wrong, even though they are treating them wrong. But a lot of times, all right, you don't need us.
But the wrong is warranted. Cool.
Speaker 1
If you don't need us, cool. If it's true what you said, then the wrong would be warranted.
No, because I still think it's based on the talent. You're saying that we don't need the NFL.
Speaker 1 What do you mean, no? If you say that. I still think it's based on the talent in the NFL, and I think this kid.
Speaker 1
I think that's just a piece. Yeah, but why say we don't need the NFL? We're rich already.
I'm a great. I'm a great.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 You got to stay with. But I think that if you're drafting a football player that you think can help your organization win, I think then those things should precede some of that stuff.
Speaker 1 I saw Johnny Manzel, dog.
Speaker 1
I saw, what's the other white kid? Baker. Baker Mayfield.
Nobody questioned their arrogance.
Speaker 1
Nobody questioned that these boys were niggas that was unconventional, that was flying off the handle, that was acting like rock stars. They senior years in college.
Really?
Speaker 1
But if they did that. I have to respond to this.
If they did that, Joe, then he has a point. No, one, I'm not going to do that because I hate that we do that and we do that a lot.
Speaker 1
So I'm not comparing this black band to none of these white people. No, I don't care about them.
Two, in the event that I did that, Shadur Sanders was not Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manzel in college.
Speaker 1 He wasn't, but.
Speaker 1
He couldn't tie Johnny Manzel's shoes on. So they were fired like that.
Yeah, that's the argument that he was. Both are good.
Speaker 1 Say that. No, both of them was good.
Speaker 1
Bro, Johnny Manzel, y'all better go watch his dog star and to your manzel. He was doing that on crack or whatever.
He was doing that.
Speaker 1 To your Manzel's point, look at say that.
Speaker 1 He did.
Speaker 1 He was a crack. He rode out of bed on every drug from fucking Friday night.
Speaker 1
What? No sleep. Bitter drill.
Stop playing with Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 1
Hung over. Look, to your Manzel point, look how it played.
Look how it worked off that NFL. He flamed.
He played two years. So now them teams could look at it like, all right, we saw this before.
Speaker 1
We're not risking this again. Should do it.
And I love that Baker bounce back. I want to say that.
Speaker 1 On drugs.
Speaker 1
I'm not saying on drugs. I'm just saying.
When you start talking about things in their totality, talk about them in totality. My nigga, it's niggas a drug addict.
Fame is a drug.
Speaker 1 I'm not disagreeing with you. If I'm an organization, if I'm an organization only, back to folks.
Speaker 1 If I'm an organization and you come in with the big fucking chain smelling like fucking bond number nine and Shinseya is next to you, that's all my hood wanted to know.
Speaker 1
My hood didn't care about none of this. My hood wanted to know, is he fucking Shinseya? Shinsey.
Shinseya. Anyway,
Speaker 1 any high-level
Speaker 1
college athlete. I showed him day two, she wasn't there.
Any high-level college athlete is arrogant. We figured so.
Any high school high-level nigga is arrogant. But that's the point.
Speaker 1
Go to these AAU tournaments with these high school kids today. These niggas is rock stars.
Yeah, but
Speaker 1
if it only comes through with him, that might mean his arrogance is so much that even among arrogant people, he's arrogant. Oh, no, he may.
My father's Dion, prime-time, neon Deion Sanders.
Speaker 1 I was making $7 million.
Speaker 1 I was making $5 million in college.
Speaker 1
So I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying you got to take all of the things.
I think that what they did, you land where you land based on what you did. I'm not defending it.
Speaker 1
I'm just showing it from two separate perspectives. Would you say that some athletes' parents could be a detriment to your career? Yeah, I know that firsthand.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1 What I'm saying is this:
Speaker 1
football-wise, he deserved to be hired in a fifth-ranking. Yes, yes.
Now, so societal, this shit that y'all been doing could have played a part in that.
Speaker 1 I think that the powers that be don't want to see this braggadocious black kid that don't need our money. When you don't need our money, quote unquote,
Speaker 1
it's a liability to them. You can't be controlled as much.
You know, when I saw the arrogance play out, not to to change the topic, but the prank.
Speaker 1 Oh, that was disgusting.
Speaker 1
That's where I saw the humility. Yeah.
Not the arrogance. The arrogance came out, too, because he was like, yo, by time.
Well, so a couple of things happened with it.
Speaker 1 I think all that is true, right?
Speaker 1 So for those that don't know, this white
Speaker 1 21-year-old college kid decided to play a prank on Shador before he was drafted by calling and pretending that he was from the New Orleans Saints and saying that he was drafting him.
Speaker 1 And then he said, kind of like, haha, you're going to have to keep waiting, right?
Speaker 1
But he kind of did say, like, it's about time. Let's make it.
I don't know what people say on a draft call, so I don't want to compare him to anybody else because I don't know.
Speaker 1 I've never heard a draft call before.
Speaker 1 But for me,
Speaker 1 I felt like that, when I say the arrogance, I meant the world reading like he needed to be humbled. Like, like,
Speaker 1
I feel like that played into the joke, too. Like, this guy needs to be humble.
And again, a lot of people have been pranked before white guys, black guys. I'm not saying he's the first person.
Speaker 1 It's not just a race thing.
Speaker 1 But watching him, watching that go down, at first I thought it was disgusting.
Speaker 1
I thought it was shameful. I thought it was mean.
Cruel is a better word.
Speaker 1 It was cruel.
Speaker 1 And I'm like, I feel like people thought that it was going to go different because everybody thought that he was the one to do it too because he needed to be humble. And I didn't like that.
Speaker 1
I actually thought he handled it responsible. Who the fuck's job is that to say we need to humble you? And that's what that's often what society does to black people.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
Like, who the fuck makes you the humbling authority? Get the fuck out of here. Moore should have been dumb once they found out who the kid was.
Yeah, a thousand percent.
Speaker 1
For those that don't, and I'm glad because they try to trace it back to the giants. Fuck out of here.
Right. He's the son of the defensive coordinator of the Falcons
Speaker 1 of the Atlanta Falcons. Just
Speaker 1
And yo, they had enough balls to tape it. Yeah.
That's his whole generation.
Speaker 1 That's his whole generation.
Speaker 1 Don't count if it's not on the internet.
Speaker 1
And according to dad, dad had nothing to do with that. No, they said they found it.
He just got the number in the laptop that was left open and
Speaker 1 moved on his own accord.
Speaker 1 What do you do? What do you do to that kid? I mean, what's the right
Speaker 1
response? It's 21. You can't, it's not illegal to do it.
Like, what do you do to that? Well, before I get to what I do to the kid, I got to see what the organization is doing to me.
Speaker 1 Because that's going to determine what I do to this kid. Like, if I lose my job behind this,
Speaker 1 boy, when I,
Speaker 1 I'm going to be the defensive coordinator, all right?
Speaker 1 I'm going to be on the offense.
Speaker 1 I'm going to be on the offense.
Speaker 1
But ultimately, I mean, some of that onus is on me. I can't get too mad.
I left my laptop with confidential shit open in my house. Now, I'm still going to beat his ass.
Speaker 1
And hopefully, you thought that you raised your child better than that. To have better moral reasons.
He's not 12. He's fucking 21, bro.
That's some cruel-hearted shit. Oh, he had old miss.
Speaker 1
My dad is with the Falcons. I'm running around like I'm that nigga and I can do what I want.
College, frat boy, baby.
Speaker 1
Drunk. Drunk white boy shit.
Shit ain't funny, but at all. That's y'all to be pumping that college shit.
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 As opposed to
Speaker 1 college is just another route to jail for some people.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Or.
Speaker 1
Yo, since we're talking football, did you see my guy, Jalen Hurts? I did. From the Philadelphia Football Eagles, World Champions.
I don't know if y'all know that. Yeah, we just see Saquon.
Speaker 1 We're talking about Saquon.
Speaker 1
It's a nice comparison, right? Jalen Hurts, the Eagles went to the White House. No, big up Saquon, nigga, from the Philadelphia Champion.
What'd you say?
Speaker 1
The guy we got from the New York Giant. All I know is he was a giant.
That's all I know.
Speaker 1 Y'all so happy y'all got him?
Speaker 2 So Saquon went to the White House.
Speaker 1
Saquon went to the White House. Jalen Hurts did not.
He said he had a scheduling issue in the White House.
Speaker 1
Right. So the Eagles went to the White House.
He didn't go. Several Eagles players didn't go.
Shout out to them for being decent human beings. And
Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. And Saquon.
Speaker 1 Isn't that tradition, though, to go to the White House? Yes. No.
Speaker 2 It's tradition, but not as of late.
Speaker 2 Not as of late. A lot of teams have said that they wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 Some whole teams. We just declined.
Speaker 1 Teams have declined since Trump.
Speaker 1 And,
Speaker 1
you know, I'm not going. Saquon explained his reason for going for.
Scheduling issues. No, no.
Jalen said, I didn't go for scheduling issues. That's him being polite
Speaker 1
and respecting the office. Saquon said he respects the office.
Right. He said, I respect the office.
And we said basically why I wake up. He golfed with Obama.
Speaker 1
He golfed, like, I respect the office, so I can golf with anybody who wants president. They also tore his ass up.
Who? As they should have. Who tore his ass up? Why? Everybody.
Man, fuck it.
Speaker 1
That's terrible. It's ridiculous, man.
Some people respect the office, Mark. Why should I respect the office?
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1
You shouldn't, but some people respect the office. Some people respect what going to the White House means.
That's the same thing Nellie had to say. Nellie said to the same thing about the matter.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I disagree with both of them.
I think they're both wrong.
Speaker 1 I understand it.
Speaker 1 yeah yeah i think it's wrong i i don't i don't think we have to respect the office first of all i think that's something people say right it sounds good it's a good pr move it allows you to justify doing fucked up things and just saying well i don't respect him i just respect the office that's dismissive yeah it is i maybe that's not dismissive but i don't think so i think with say quan I think he wants to be around powerful people.
Speaker 1
I think he likes golfing with Trump. I think a whole lot of people like being in those circles and they're justifying it by saying, I respect the office.
I don't think it's about the office.
Speaker 1 I think it's about the power. There's lots of offices they don't go to that they kill.
Speaker 1 So then what if he goes goes in that situation around Trump and able to probably get in his head and influence or make changes? Change the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 I mean,
Speaker 1 change the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 I think
Speaker 1
whether we agree with him or disagree with him, that's his right. Yeah, for sure.
We think it's goofy shit, but everybody didn't grow up like us. You know what I'm saying? So I don't necessarily know
Speaker 1
I wouldn't have did it. But I ain't going to knock him for doing it.
I can't say he's wrong for something. And I know for a fact he's an avid golfer.
He's really like, he really plays plays.
Speaker 1 A lot of them football niggas they love. No, he plays plays like, but
Speaker 1 look,
Speaker 1
I think, I just think a lot of black men voted for this nigga, man. Yeah.
And it's the same logic. That's my issue.
I think we can't keep normalizing Trump.
Speaker 1 And I think going to the White House makes it seem like he's any other president. It's just like when the correspondents go, I say we shouldn't be going to the correspondence dinner.
Speaker 1
We should be going to the White House. I'm saying I'm having that critique of everybody that normalizes Trump.
That's all I'm saying. It's not about him in particular.
Speaker 1
So Jalen Hurts, the quarterback, if Hurts can not go there, that's a great example. I appreciate it.
And I respect and appreciate him. And I actually want to focus more on celebrating him.
Speaker 1 That's our side of that aisle. You get what I'm saying? Like, everybody has their own independent opinions, whether it's about.
Speaker 1
Jalen Hurts is surrounded by black people. Yep.
Yeah, probably. And he loves black people.
From agent on down. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, again, I wouldn't have. I'm a little different.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't have went. Would you go ice?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
If Trump invited us, Joe, will you go? Go where? White House. If Trump invites us to the White House to honor us.
I wouldn't go if I didn't put them there. You wouldn't have went if Obama invited you?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Melon Flip, would y'all go?
Speaker 2 If Obama was there, yes. Trump, no.
Speaker 1 Absolutely. How about you?
Speaker 1 I think I had a little sneaky invite to that big party Obama drew with all the black people. You ain't going?
Speaker 1 I don't think so.
Speaker 1 I would have went, but not because
Speaker 1 my mom. No, she'll lose her mind.
Speaker 1 She'll lose her mind.
Speaker 1
That's That's a good answer. That's a good reason.
No, now his mom's, the way you said, how you said she don't play with that? She don't play.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't want to hurt. Like, that makes sense.
I did that enough.
Speaker 1 As I got older, I tried to minimize how I come off and
Speaker 1 how she feels about it.
Speaker 1
That started to happen when I came up here. How I see how everybody was moving.
At one point, I didn't care. Like, man,
Speaker 1
I am who I am. I do what I want.
But then when I see it, bother somebody. You was a little nigga back then until you got to the JVP and you grew up.
Watch your fucking mouth, niggas.
Speaker 1
I was saying that. You was a little flippy.
It was flippy.
Speaker 1 I was saying, nah, I wasn't. I meant to tell you,
Speaker 1 you didn't think about changing your name across your social handles to JVP Flip? Nah.
Speaker 1
Shit. Hey, yo, you've made that joke.
Nah, nigga.
Speaker 1 Like ASAP Fur.
Speaker 1 ASAP Rocky.
Speaker 1 Seriously.
Speaker 1 Are you crazy?
Speaker 1
Nigga, I was cool. Because Queen's Flip is like whatever you was doing.
But
Speaker 1 Queen's Face Flip.
Speaker 1 It's like,
Speaker 1
the whole difference. You got them niggas in there.
This is a flip-flip button.
Speaker 1
You got them niggas in there saying that they never heard of flip before this and before that because what we did on the last part. No, nigga, I'm Queen's Flip, nigga.
I'm gonna keep my name.
Speaker 1
I JBP flip. I want to get far away from that name.
JBP flip. Yeah, he's just a damn.
Speaker 1
No, JBP5. No, no, I'm talking about the JBP flip.
Not the brand. Now, the brand, I'm embedded in.
Speaker 1
Your business model says you want to be introduced to as many people as you could possibly be introduced to. So all of this Queen's jargon bullshit you giving me.
No, see, that's downplay. You nigga.
Speaker 1 You dump that shit in the solid.
Speaker 1
You saying that because it's you, nigga. When you went to somebody else, you went as Joe Budden, nigga.
When you went to any entity, you went as yourself, as you supposed to. Same thing with me.
Speaker 1 I was somebody. I have proof to.
Speaker 1
I have documentation that can show who I was and what my million streams. Period.
If I didn't have that, it's different. Not saying that this haven't leveled me up.
It has.
Speaker 1 I was able to
Speaker 1
reinvent myself up here and I'm appreciative of it and be taken more seriously. And what you're saying is not true about me, just to correct the record.
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 You didn't go to any place that's Joe Budden? I brought me with me everywhere that I went. but you said i just said that yeah but there was plenty of phases where i was joe button from somewhere else
Speaker 1 there's plenty of phases throughout my career where i was well shit the first phase was we don't even know that's joe button we know pump it up got it and then you become joe button recording artist yeah and then you and then you are joe button from loving hip-hop and joe button from slaughterhouse and you i don't want to doubt you've introduced yourself to enough people to be able to say hey i'm joe button and then they know where they know you from so you yeah but i want to correct because you do that on some ego and pride but we shouldn't sleep on five million people listening to you and being new to you and introduced to you like that ain't something to have an attitude about that's something to be grateful
Speaker 1 that's something to be appreciative of and say hi yo this is all the stuff i had going on before this you may know me from here but this is what's cracking with me do i come up do i show up and come to work do i
Speaker 1 just answer the question yes or no do i show up and come to work yeah that's all that matters what i say here how i believe in myself and how i want to present myself, it's not insulting to the brand or what's going on.
Speaker 1 As long as I show up, I work and
Speaker 1
I get it done. That's what should matter to you.
Says you. For all that internet, that internet shit is for just playing into something with people.
Speaker 1 I can say that I have a right to say that and have a right to feel how I feel as long as I'm not disrespecting the brand, disrespecting you publicly, or disrespecting the organization.
Speaker 1
I agree with that. That's it.
Unfortunately, that's my job to dictate.
Speaker 1 I don't want to say it again. It's your job to do.
Speaker 1 niggas laughing.
Speaker 1 You're right, though. You're right.
Speaker 1
I don't want to listen. Listen, because it did come over way, and I was checked about it by some people who I respect.
Yo, that sounds crazy. And I don't want to come off like that.
Speaker 1
That wasn't what I meant. It's just something, ego going back and forth with my brothers in the moment.
But I'm extremely appreciative.
Speaker 1
Because if I wasn't up here, my rebrand wouldn't have been documented. No one was letting me in the building.
Yo, we're not letting you in. Then you'll really be on chicken nugget front front.
Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. Yo, we're not letting you in here.
We're not letting you come in here. There's nothing that you can do.
I come, yo, I want to be invited. No, it's not.
Speaker 1
That's when Ibro was throwing you underneath the tables and all that, kicking you in the head, all that shit. Oh, shit.
I remember.
Speaker 1 I seen it. Are you crazy?
Speaker 1 I seen it.
Speaker 1
That's when you went up to A9. Ibro picked you up.
Nobody's selected. V dang.
And you couldn't really grab him because your arms was little. It's cool.
I remember.
Speaker 1 Yeah, even though your shit was short, you couldn't really reach his throat. It's all right, bro.
Speaker 1 And I appreciate you allowing me to be. Yo, yo, when do I get an ISO ISO to talk about the pissed-ons?
Speaker 1 Take it.
Speaker 1 I mean, should I do it now? I maybe should have waited. I should have done it during prize picks.
Speaker 1 I don't want to call Jared Jack up. Be clear,
Speaker 1 at the time of this recording,
Speaker 1 game five has not been played yet.
Speaker 1 By the time you're listening to this, game five has been played. Because it's tonight, and I will be out of here by 7.30.
Speaker 1 But, boy, did we handle the pistons?
Speaker 1
Took care of that. Went down in Detroit, let them know we was just fine on the road.
Hey, some niggas play well on the road.
Speaker 1 3-1.
Speaker 1 Hey, Cunningham,
Speaker 1 honey-baked ham, or ham from the bodega.
Speaker 1 Next year.
Speaker 1 Hey!
Speaker 1 Hey, Dad, everybody. Big Sean was out.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Babyface Rank niggas was outside.
Speaker 1
So fucking L, nigga. Get the fuck out of here.
And I love Detroit. I would have loved to go to that game.
And shout out to the no-call.
Speaker 1 I'd have loved to go to that game. To say shout out to the no-call would be to say shout out to the whole game.
Speaker 1
I'm just saying shout out to the shit. They wrestled the whole game.
That entire game. And that's why I don't want to hear that shit.
Y'all be doing that. I don't want to hear that shit.
Speaker 1 Y'all niggas asked for a physical series.
Speaker 1
Every post-game interview, Bickerstaff got up there and said, this is how we want to play because we can play through it. They can't.
Looking at the game, we be losing because they played through it.
Speaker 1 And we just ended up crying. Yo, foul, foul, foul, foul, foul.
Speaker 1
Poetic justice. The only person that don't got to play through it? Poetic justice that they lost that game and we fouled them niggas.
Good for y'all asses.
Speaker 1 Good.
Speaker 1 Y'all was playing. I thought that was the Lions we was playing.
Speaker 1 They was fucking us up. Y'all was, it was a fucking, both teams was fucking each other up.
Speaker 1
Don't do that. And both teams have been fucking each other up.
No, I think they've been fucking us up a lot more. They've been winning the free throw battle.
Speaker 1 Jalen Brunson, who is the fucking NBA clutch player of the year, has not taken a free throw in the fourth quarter of the last game.
Speaker 1
Or I want to say the game before, but I want to fact check that first. So yeah, I don't want to hear that free throw shit.
You niggas want it physical. It's physical.
The ref missed it.
Speaker 1
The NBA said it was a foul. Guess what? Game over.
Game over. Back to time.
Back to 34th Street. We go.
Boy, I hate that shit, though. I ain't going to.
And back to 33rd.
Speaker 1
I hate that shit when they come back afterwards and say, yeah, we're supposed to call that foul. I don't like it either.
Well, niggas. I don't like it either.
Had something on that. Yo, listen.
Speaker 1 What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 I'll take it past the nick game. I didn't think that Denver won that game that they said Denver won.
Speaker 1 With the alley oop? Yeah. Balls out of his hands.
Speaker 1
You must got the fucking sphere cameras. Nah, they do.
You got a different camera than me.
Speaker 1
I saw a fingertip on the ball with the time expired. Red light.
The balls out of his hands. I'm open to being wrong about it, but there may be another angle that I didn't see.
Speaker 1 But from what I saw, it looked like his finger was still touching the ball.
Speaker 1 And if I was a pissed on fan, I would feel the way right now.
Speaker 1
I would feel the way that I was going to be able to do it. That was going to be my question.
Would you be as open? Of course.
Speaker 1
But I would understand it. I would understand it.
They fucking each other up. This is a different type of series.
They fucking each other up. I will say that.
And that's not where you lost the game.
Speaker 1 Whatchamacallit is getting, he getting
Speaker 1 more superstar treatment, though.
Speaker 1
Who? Bronson. He should.
Everybody else not getting it. As he should.
And I think Cade is, but as he should. You know what? They fucking up.
Now I'm calling Jared Jack. I wasn't before.
Speaker 1
They fucking Cade up. I wasn't before.
Bronson initiates
Speaker 1 that contact and be going getting a bunch of calls. Now I am.
Speaker 1 I wasn't before, but now I am.
Speaker 1 I am now.
Speaker 1
JJ answered. That's what I mean.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
That's right. No good.
I want it documented that he's not answering.
Speaker 1
No, no, no. No voicemail.
I know that it's being forwarded. You ain't got to tell me.
Speaker 1
I called because it would be forwarded. Oh, shit.
Again, shout out to Detroit. Shout out to Detroit.
Real good season. Bickerstaff may even be coach of the year.
Speaker 1 But Cade Cunningham, Palace of Buckingham,
Speaker 1 you could bring the summer sand.
Speaker 1
Nixon Vibe. What the fuck are they talking about? I saw you wrote that.
Yeah, Nixon Veh. Oh, shit.
Took me a while. It took me 10 minutes.
I'm rusty.
Speaker 1 It took me a second now.
Speaker 1 Yeah, goddamn.
Speaker 1 What else we got? What else we got? What else we got?
Speaker 1 The fucking pissed ons.
Speaker 1 Well, we got the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. We did.
Speaker 1 And I'm happy to see who's on this list.
Speaker 1 So we have Outcast
Speaker 1 and Salt and Pepper. Oh.
Speaker 1
Much deserved. Well, I mean, there's more.
I'll read the whole list.
Speaker 1
Performer category is Bad Company, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Cindy Lauper, Outcast, Soundgarden, and the White Stripes. Okay.
Musical Influence Awards, salt and pepper Warren Zavon
Speaker 1 musical excellence award Tom Bell Nikki Hopkins Carol Kay nice
Speaker 1 so yeah I'm Chubby Checker's just getting in here I think but that was an influence or something maybe it was performer oh it was chubby checker's performer he hasn't been in the rock and roll already
Speaker 1 some of this shit is crazy this is what I'm saying last time I rarely be mad at who gets in I'll just be fascinated by the order And the time it takes for somebody who's like, Chubby Checker's just in and so-and-so will be in five years ago.
Speaker 1
It's wild to me. That's insane.
Really happy. Well, congratulations.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, really.
Speaker 1
I like to see Salt and Pepper under influence. We were just having that talk before.
We definitely were. So I love that one.
But, yeah.
Speaker 1 Pretty dope. Pretty dope.
Speaker 1 So I like
Speaker 1
the show. I love the induction show.
Oh, they bring everybody in. That's right.
Did they film that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Televisor, yeah.
The LL1 show.
Speaker 1 Should usually be like four hours long, but it'd be long as hell. That's fire.
Speaker 1 Also, before we go any further, I want to say rest in peace to Phil Robinson.
Speaker 1
Phil Robinson, many of you are familiar with from Making the Band. He was one of the executives as well as an on-air personality that you will see.
Phil Robinson passed away.
Speaker 1 Rest in peace to Phil.
Speaker 1
And rest in peace to Dick Barnett, Nick Legend. Shout out to the Nick.
So rest in peace. Rest in peace to those brothers.
Speaker 1 I want to go back. Because we didn't talk about the, we didn't do much music
Speaker 1
last pod. No, we didn't.
And I didn't hear much music anyway. But I want to go back and discuss this young thug record featuring Future Money on Money.
Speaker 1 Let's get it.
Speaker 1 I think this record is incredible.
Speaker 1
You know what that means. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. He heard it in the spot.
Sorry.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. That's what it means.
I'm sorry, you guys. It worked on the review.
It worked on them. It worked on him.
I'm sorry. Well, it worked on them.
Don't apologize.
Speaker 1 Not bad at it. And let me tell you, that's halfway true.
Speaker 1
That's only half true. Just half.
I was outside a little bit.
Speaker 1
I did hear this song outside, but I was too occupied at the time to really give it my full attention. So I went about my business.
You had the swishy pants on. The next morning, I don't recall.
Speaker 1 The next morning, no travel lube.
Speaker 1 Not living like that no more.
Speaker 1 Congrats.
Speaker 1 Sounds crazy. Love that for you.
Speaker 1 Now, my travel lube bitches that know I used to have it, they're looking at me funny now because it ain't happening no more.
Speaker 1
See your dog, fancy. You to walk into a spot with a lube in your pocket.
It's crazy. Did you say no drawers?
Speaker 1
And squishy pants. That's y'all paying me.
I got on whatever y'all want me to have on at this point. It's like Minecraft.
Speaker 1 You have on an Army outfit. You got lube in your pocket.
Speaker 1
What the fuck you got on? That's poor. I don't have lube in my pocket.
Well, you got a lube. No worries.
It's in the car. Okay.
It's in the truck.
Speaker 1 You don't know if your travel lube partner is even working tonight.
Speaker 1 So when you determine that they working, you go to the car and get it.
Speaker 2 None of your fancy bags have like a little pocket?
Speaker 1
Then you say, yo, pull up. It's in one of the fancy bags, just in a different bag.
Okay, all right. Now you go get the other bag.
Speaker 1
The lube bag. The lube bag.
So you walk back in the strip club with the lube. In the bag.
In the bag. Not in your pocket.
Oh. That's very poor.
That makes a very different.
Speaker 1
And it's going to stay in some of your clothes and the cleaners can't get that out. You would know.
So would you. I wouldn't.
Don't worry. It's cool.
That nigga's somebody. You feel like lube?
Speaker 1
Isn't it water soluble? Yeah, it's water. It's water-soluble.
It's solidar.
Speaker 1 That's not true. And I, oh, your shit is oil-based.
Speaker 1 You got the polyurethane lube.
Speaker 1
This thing got the Home Depot. I don't even discuss these types of things with you, novices.
You're right. I'm definitely that.
Speaker 1 So then the next day, I went and listened to this song and was like, oh,
Speaker 1 slept.
Speaker 1
Just crept by me. Nobody else here heard this song.
I heard it. We talked about it.
Yeah, we did. What'd y'all say about it? We said it was cool.
Speaker 1 It wasn't anything out of this world.
Speaker 1
It's not cool. It's cool.
It's not cool. It's cool.
It's not cool. Nothing we haven't heard of.
No, but it's cool. Yes, it is.
Okay.
Speaker 1
It's a cool record. Yes, it is.
It's not cool. It's cool.
You're not cool. Shut up.
Speaker 1 This song is a good thing. It's crazy,
Speaker 1 cool.
Speaker 1 I'm fucking these millions of digging. I'm spending this shit on my bitch and
Speaker 1 That's the first thing that's different. We're not chronicling crimes no more.
Speaker 1 Actually, I just thought of the coolest way to tell you what I've learned from that trial I went through, which is I don't want nobody going to do nothing if I got to be the one to tell you to go spend.
Speaker 1
That's a difference already. You don't hear that? You don't think so? You don't care? I think this record is a great job of him post-trial, is what I want to highlight.
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Like, this hook is fire.
Speaker 1
What he's talking is fire. The beat switch is fire.
I like the beat.
Speaker 1
I like the beat switch. I like the beat in his verse.
And future verse was cool. Future is future.
Yeah. So I mean, but nigga, out the boy.
Okay.
Speaker 1
Money on money, these millions are dick. I'm spending this shit on my bitch and my kids.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Motherfucker pink slip nigga, no rent.
Speaker 1 I don't want you gonna do nothing, but I gotta be the one tell you to spin. These fuck niggas telling for nothing, and I gotta be the one calling them friends.
Speaker 1
Drop top rose rust, I don't know the time, I don't know the name of it. I don't know the name of it.
Fuck this little bitch last night this morning. I don't know the name of it.
Speaker 1
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop, stop, stop.
He's talking crazy.
Speaker 1 He's talking, he's talking crazier than the thug that we had a hard time hearing.
Speaker 1 Pam, go play Dumb, Dumb, and Dumber.
Speaker 1 This is the same.
Speaker 1
This is a great, it's a good song. It's cool.
This is, they ain't do nothing outworldly.
Speaker 1 That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's a bad record.
Speaker 1
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying that.
I don't know that shit. I don't know what Dumb, Dumb, and Dumber is that.
That's the record that you're talking about. That's a one.
Speaker 1
That's a little recorder. No, no, no, that's hard.
No,
Speaker 1
but that was the first one. That record is hard.
That's basically out with him post-trial.
Speaker 1
It's him, thug, and baby. I mean, thug, baby, and future.
It's Lil Baby's first single. But that's what I'm saying.
Like I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't know if we came in here on that one and gave it up
Speaker 1 to the degree of hardness that that record is due.
Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 Some of these records are coming out and because of maybe whatever he went through or because of the trial or that stupid ass mask he had on in that GQ interview, some of these shits is just
Speaker 1 sliding by.
Speaker 1 Like I wanted to rewind and say hold up now.
Speaker 1
I'm not gonna keep letting these these slide by that double double shit is hard. That shit is that shit is crazy.
I don't know that I came in here and said none of that
Speaker 1 Sometimes it happens though. You come back and catch a record like
Speaker 1 This is cool.
Speaker 1 I can't swishy pants give you mental clarity
Speaker 1 No worries I got that new bag coming up for you. It's coming
Speaker 1 the bitch out the beans. Motherfucker pink slip, nigga, no rent.
Speaker 1 I don't want you gonna do nothing if I gotta be the one tell you to spend. These fuck niggas telling for nothing, and I gotta be the one calling them friends.
Speaker 1 Drop top bus, but I'm on the dream. I'm on the nigga.
Speaker 1 Fuck this little bitch last night and this morning, but I don't know the name of her. What's her name?
Speaker 1 Wait, what?
Speaker 1
shine. Nah, you gotta come outside.
Are you all crazy? I feel weird, y'all niggas even sitting still like this.
Speaker 1 This is all this. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 Swimming pool heated. Ooh.
Speaker 1 Alright, that's cool. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
Don't worry about it. It's dope.
It goes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 Also, don't worry. I don't need y'all for a music review, you fucking lame asses.
Speaker 1
Let's see. What else? I definitely heard that every day.
What else? What else? What else? What else?
Speaker 1 I ain't put enough respect on Destin Conrad.
Speaker 1 I didn't put enough respect on this Destin Conrad project.
Speaker 1
We came in here. We just like, yo, he put some shit out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You didn't just put some shit out.
Speaker 1 He killed. Hold up.
Speaker 1 I didn't hear this.
Speaker 1
Hold up, man. Hear what you got.
And Destin Conrad, if you're familiar, he's been on some smooth, mid-tempo, lover boy type shit.
Speaker 1 A lot of people didn't know that he was fucking talking about niggas when they was listening to the songs.
Speaker 1
That's how smooth those songs were. That Marvin Gay shit.
And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1 if any of you, any
Speaker 1 give it up.
Speaker 1 It's been an opinion of mine for a while, Mark, that the gays gays
Speaker 1 might clear the straights and averses.
Speaker 1 And that's growing more and more true in the newer crop.
Speaker 1 I give you
Speaker 1
Kaylani, Destin Conrad, Jazzy, the artists. I give you, I could go on.
There's a few of them out there. Several feet.
There's a few of them out there. I ain't even getting that.
Speaker 1
I'm just talking about the newer niggas. The new ones? Just the newer niggas.
Ombre. Oh, R ⁇ B, you're talking about.
Yeah. Oh, R ⁇ B for sure.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm only talking talking about RB. Okay, I'm not talking about rap.
Speaker 1
He ain't wrong on RB. But on his debut, on Destin Conrad's debut, he upped the tempo.
Sound like he found Studio 54, the right gay party.
Speaker 1 And it's fire. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1 Hold up, man.
Speaker 1
I let this rock for a little bit. Hold up now.
We ain't put the proper respect on this. Shout out to Destin Conrad, friends of the show.
Yo, come up here, man. Stop playing.
Speaker 1 Oh, no.
Speaker 1 I've been in out of your city for a week. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 Cause you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 You can hear what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 This whole album kinda got this
Speaker 1 bop right here.
Speaker 1 Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 Oh man,
Speaker 1 stop playing with this boy, man.
Speaker 1 This is Destin,
Speaker 1 bad bitches off his project.
Speaker 1 Let me know.
Speaker 1 I don't mean to come off a classic, but I'm finna act a motherfucking ass. And this bitch, I'm finna break.
Speaker 1 Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1
That was fire. See, that's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1
See the different reaction you got? Don't worry about it. That shit right there was broken.
Don't worry about it, though.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, don't worry about it, though.
Speaker 1 I'm just here to show people good music. That's all.
Speaker 1
Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe I'm dumb.
Maybe I'm about to live.
Speaker 1
Maybe I got so much on my body, and it's a lot of shit. Yes, sir.
And I got it. You brothers get nice.
Speaker 1 Some days I feel amazing.
Speaker 1 Some days I wanna. This shit hard.
Speaker 1 Y'all better stop playing with this boy right here.
Speaker 1 The gays are clearing out the streets. Chill, man.
Speaker 1 Lil Nas X is not on that, right? He wouldn't be on my list.
Speaker 1 RB.
Speaker 1 He's not on that. He ain't got enough flats for me to put on
Speaker 1 the joint.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm not even going to. Go ahead, y'all.
I got it.
Speaker 1 I got my old dad.
Speaker 1 Full crew of that.
Speaker 1 Oh, full crew.
Speaker 1 Don't worry about it, man. It's cool.
Speaker 1
It's cool. Don't worry.
Something playing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 What's happening right now?
Speaker 1 What was that? What was that?
Speaker 1 That was cute. What was that? What was that just playing?
Speaker 1 Oh, that was Destin Con right again.
Speaker 1 That sounds good. Three for three right there.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 since I Love Jones soundtrack.
Speaker 1 I wasn't mad at that one.
Speaker 1
Anyway, that Destin Conrad album is available in your phone and on DSPs. This is not a sleeper nor an ad.
I got to check him out.
Speaker 1 But that project right there, boy.
Speaker 1 And it's getting a nice eye on there.
Speaker 1 Let's see here. We want to talk about this
Speaker 1 Misa Hilton and Vado lawsuit against Mary J. Barge?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just playing some theme music for Mark, just in case he comes back.
Speaker 1
Mark, we got it, y'all. Don't worry about it, man.
We're gonna hold it down for you.
Speaker 1 The call had to take that.
Speaker 1 Another song.
Speaker 1 You gotta let it rock now.
Speaker 1 For the longest time.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 What in the moon?
Speaker 1 Where was we at? Where was we at? Where was we at? Quick, quick aside. In music, back to the party, Drake, what would be the next single conversation? I heard die trying out a lot when I was out.
Speaker 1
Nashville. The one with the acoustic shit.
And granted, guitars, Nashville probably makes more sense, but still, I could see how that would be the one. Up tempo, more pop feel.
Speaker 1 Die trying out.
Speaker 1
Yeah, for sure. Well, let's just see about that, that, buddy.
Well, there's also the second song up on Party's page, so I think
Speaker 1 the numbers are not. That might be in the past.
Speaker 1
You know what I saw recently? They were talking about somebody's going around asking the top 10 Drake songs from people in the crowd. Shit.
And
Speaker 1
I was surprised that... 30 songs.
I was surprised that Best I Ever Had wasn't on the top 10.
Speaker 1 Like, I wouldn't have it on my top 10. Really? Personal top 10? No, but I could see why it would be on.
Speaker 1 That surprised me.
Speaker 1 And they had the list, and Hotline Bling was on there something from scorpion was on there but best i never best i ever had wasn't on there that is it because like it's old hotline bling is the top 10 drink song it's one of his most successful songs
Speaker 1 that a lot of people just care about that the numbers
Speaker 1 got it okay yeah got it like i'm one of favorites neither one of them on there on my top ten got it okay and then i'm gonna have some shit on there like club paradise which a lot of folk probably ain't even heard Gotcha.
Speaker 1
Because it was one of the throwaways he put out. South Carolina? Yeah.
Yeah. Even though he did drop the care package with it up there.
niggas heard it.
Speaker 1
I don't know what that is. I don't know.
You know what I mean? No, no, you don't. I bet you didn't either.
No, it's it play it. You've heard this.
Club Paradise. I didn't hear.
I don't.
Speaker 1 What album was it on Freeze?
Speaker 1 Y'all ain't heard this.
Speaker 1 No, they haven't.
Speaker 1 Nobody in this room has heard this, but
Speaker 1
I always got somebody new. I said, damn, really.
Even Rosemary, even Lee Ann Silly. They said, fuck it right.
They were the first to go. It's not the who was chasing all the women that you're stuck.
Speaker 1
They be working on, they've been saving up. New niggas came around, they've been waking up.
With, I swear, you don't know this city anymore. They might have
Speaker 1
just nice. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
Chill.
Speaker 1
That'll start to a whole bunch of other shit. I know you didn't hear that before.
You heard that mountain? Nope.
Speaker 2 Never heard that before.
Speaker 1 You've heard that ish.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 I know he's heard that record. He was in the club Paradise.
Speaker 1
You got a lot of, you got away with a lot of shit back in those days, boy. And that was his old street name.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Hey, Perry. Paradise.
Speaker 1 Perry.
Speaker 1 Perry with the green eyes.
Speaker 1 That nigga old street name was something with nectar.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 That's guys in Duncan.
Speaker 1 Ish, if you see your old work when you're with your girl, do you act like you don't know them or? Nah, I speak. You speak.
Speaker 1 And if your girl see her old work in front of you, does she speak or does she act like she don't know them? I wouldn't know who she was.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't know who her old work is. She's working.
Speaker 1
But for her. She wouldn't tell you.
Pick up and hug. She wouldn't tell you.
Speaker 1
I'm not. We're not going to go get the conversation.
Go get the conversation.
Speaker 1 If my girl speaks to a guy when we're out,
Speaker 1 what I'm going to say, who that? Well, you're not going to be there.
Speaker 1 You're going to be getting in the call. You're not going to ask her who that was.
Speaker 2 So she says hello to somebody, gives them a hug, and doesn't explain who they are.
Speaker 1 You're okay with that.
Speaker 1 Long hugs.
Speaker 1 Like we said. Pelvis.
Speaker 1 Nobody.
Speaker 1
Nobody better go with somebody at Long Hughes. Rub and hug back.
Niggas always gotta.
Speaker 1
You don't think dude's gonna rub her back a little bit? But if we do that, then he. I see it saying something, but nigga ain't gonna do that.
It's just gonna be.
Speaker 1 He gotta go.
Speaker 1 He's gonna be right there.
Speaker 1 So you're gonna say, wait until he went to the bathroom. I'm saying.
Speaker 1 It's just so cool that when she see her old work and Ish go get the car, that's gonna be it. Like, she gonna say, do that, and then it's gonna be going.
Speaker 1 Don't care, nigga.
Speaker 1 Don't let him
Speaker 1 try to speak.
Speaker 1 Oh, so
Speaker 1 you that confident in yourself that you'll get, hey, man, talk to your friend. I'll be back.
Speaker 1
Akee, don't let this nigga influence you to be. Fam, if I'm somewhere with my girl and my girl speaks to somebody, she says hi to somebody that the fuck you talking about, nigga.
We usually
Speaker 1 catch up.
Speaker 1 What's catch up mean?
Speaker 1 They're gonna stand there talking. How you
Speaker 1
Some teeth are showing. They're going to talk for like six minutes.
The back minutes. Maybe, maybe.
Yo, the back teeth showing. Yo, can you? It's a hypothetical.
Speaker 1
Yo, listen, the back teeth start showing. Yeah.
All right.
Speaker 1
Back teeth just showing. He's too colourful.
What you want me to say? And he's Polish too. He's too colorful.
What you want me to say?
Speaker 1 She's not Polish, man.
Speaker 1
She's not Polish. Watch your fucking mouth.
She's not Polish. She's not Polish.
Speaker 1
She is Portuguese. He is too.
He's Portuguese. Now they start talking that shit around me.
Speaker 1 Oh, you don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 1 Girls say a boo.
Speaker 1 Brazil? Brazil?
Speaker 1 There's no Bob Didido.
Speaker 1 He's no B-Doll. No Bobby D-Doe.
Speaker 1 He's too cool for school.
Speaker 1 He's no B-Doll.
Speaker 1
Your girl can't speak to nobody when you're with me. She can.
She can't. No.
My wife be a...
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah.
My wife's good, but
Speaker 1
She's going to tell me who it is. Automatically.
You want to ask? No, she tells me automatically. Well, that's something different.
I do the same thing. I'm not asking no questions.
Speaker 1 I think it's rude to see somebody hug them in front of my wife and not explain.
Speaker 1 What if your girl introduced you as your profession? You added the hugs and professionals. What do you mean?
Speaker 1
This is Ish for the podcast. This is Ish for the Joe Button podcast.
This is Ish for the Joe Button. She knows how this is.
Speaker 1 It's my contractor, right?
Speaker 1 This is the nigga that's the best.
Speaker 1
The cabinets in the kitchen. He did this.
This is the nigga. I just went to business with him.
Speaker 1 Ish would lose his mind in there, nigga.
Speaker 1 That mall would turn into a thick ass red dawn, nigga.
Speaker 1 Look,
Speaker 1
some people play like that, though, Ish. We know better.
Some people, boy, what if she pranking you and do that, nigga? You probably just see your reaction.
Speaker 1 Well, what if you say, yo, this is my new boyfriend?
Speaker 1 I haven't seen you in a long time, Pablo. This is my new boyfriend, Ish.
Speaker 1 What? What's new to you?
Speaker 1
New this relative. Hold on, give me a second.
Yeah, Pablo.
Speaker 1 How's your mom?
Speaker 1 It should be there.
Speaker 1
It turned into a lollipop. A blow pop.
This don't have to be red.
Speaker 1 This could go grab his Snickers.
Speaker 1
They catch it up, nigga. It happened.
It don't. To who?
Speaker 1 You. I mean, niggas.
Speaker 1
You just said that your girl could speak to somebody and you won't care who she's speaking to. I like that, but I just doubt that that's true.
She wouldn't come and tell you, yo, this is my friend.
Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. She's just going to hug a random nigga and I say, if she tells me, she tells me, I'm not asking you who that is.
Speaker 1
That's what you're saying. I don't give a fuck what it is.
Mr. Portuguese.
Speaker 1 The problem is.
Speaker 1 He wants Mr. Olympia over there.
Speaker 1 Olympio.
Speaker 1 He wanted them niggas.
Speaker 1 Mr. Portuguese.
Speaker 1
Say something to me right now, nigga. What you doing? Yo, take your fat ass up on the car.
I think I'm going to be a bitch. I'm not sure what I'm doing.
Speaker 1
Yo, you're going to be standing there all out of shape. A nigga slapping me.
You crazy, nigga. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1 bro.
Speaker 1 You're going to be standing there in your oversized t-shirt.
Speaker 1
And he police out there. He ain't got the tank on.
And he police out here, nigga. And he police out here, nigga.
I dare you to shoot. And he shook your hand man firm.
Speaker 1
He hurt you when he hurt your shit. Damn, you say something about talk to your girl right here, nigga.
In Portugal, nigga. I know.
Yeah, hold on. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 I know. What are you going to do when he says, yo, your number changed?
Speaker 1 I'm asking you a hypothetical question.
Speaker 1
Because he had the old number. Ask yourself that question.
Oh, no, that wouldn't happen to me. I know.
Speaker 1
She can't speak. Yeah, that would have happened to me.
That's not true. It told you that.
What would you do if you overheard him say, yo, is your number still the same? Like, you a while out on him?
Speaker 1
Nothing. Your foot is broke.
Nothing.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
Yo, I'm not. Screw it out.
I'm done. That's the end of my questioning.
I'm cool where I'm at, bro. That's the end of my questioning.
I don't have them fears y'all got. I'm good where I'm at.
Speaker 1 He's secure.
Speaker 1 We all have different fears.
Speaker 1
That's true. We all have different fears.
He's secure. He's secure in his bag.
That's true. Good thing.
But don't act like Shawty can't say hot a nigga.
Speaker 1 Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Act like Shade.
Speaker 1 You'll stand there.
Speaker 1 Would you stand there and look?
Speaker 1 Yeah, you fucked. Something's wrong with you, yo.
Speaker 1 You'll stand there and look like.
Speaker 1 What's your head position? Is it this? Or this?
Speaker 1 Got a turkey leg hut.
Speaker 1
That's a joker. Nigga be like, yo, remember the last time we had them greens? They was different, right? They not the same same as last time.
But he don't get, I don't, I don't think she would.
Speaker 1
He don't give up the energy that he allows somebody to put. I don't think she would allow that.
And we wouldn't be a turkey leg hunt because the owner would
Speaker 1 pour gasoline on the other
Speaker 1
on competitive businesses. Whoever y'all are.
And then they caught him on video.
Speaker 1
Stupid ass nigga. Hell nah.
Yo, I do like this whole niggas getting caught on video doing shit they wasn't supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1
Like, why we got you in the clearest black and white I ever seen pouring gas. It wasn't black and white, nigga.
It was color. Oh, the the one I seen was black and white.
Speaker 1 It was like the eagle eye from the sky zoomed in. They caught him and all his friends pouring gas on.
Speaker 1 You can't do that, though.
Speaker 1 Competing business.
Speaker 1 2025, bro. Niggas is dumb.
Speaker 1
That's it. Niggas just dumb.
That was last year.
Speaker 1
2024, same shit. All the same shit.
My last question to issue, and then we're moving on. You got to answer yourself too.
You can answer everything you answer.
Speaker 1 You can't just be throwing questions at niggas.
Speaker 1
Why? I'm creative enough to think of questions. I don't know.
If he's thinking something, I'll answer him. All right, so listen.
Everything went the way you envisioned it going.
Speaker 1 Money left and y'all left.
Speaker 1
Then the next day, you see that her follower number went up. By one.
How would I see that? By one. How would I see that? Huh? How would I see that? Through your peripheral.
Speaker 1
Or she told you. Or she told me.
I don't do none of that, bro. He don't care.
I'm not y'all, my bad.
Speaker 1
I'm just telling you, they followed each other the next day. I wouldn't know.
You don't care. I wouldn't know.
You don't care. I don't care.
And I wouldn't know. Okay, now that's please.
Speaker 1 But you, you,
Speaker 1
but your ideology, that's out of sight, out of mind. What about you, Big Free? Exactly.
I wouldn't know. I'm not gonna look at her, follow.
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
What, nigga? Yo, some people don't even know. That's a smooth way to escape a hypothetical.
All right, I'll play a lot of people.
Speaker 1
Come on, come on. I answer that.
They follow each other the next day. I don't care.
Speaker 1 Then what? I don't care. I don't know how you found out.
Speaker 1
Danny told me. I don't care.
Oh, that's not how I call Danny. I don't care.
And I just found out Danny's name ain't Danny. You're lying.
Speaker 1 It's not.
Speaker 1
How do y'all know that? Because he called me yesterday. Because I've been eating the shrimp and grits from Old Spot at least three times out the week now.
We just be talking. Or Okata.
Oh, that Danny.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh, I thought y'all was talking about the other Danny.
Nigga, no, your friend Danny.
Speaker 1
Your friend Danny, that ain't his name. I know that.
Wait, what?
Speaker 1
You knew Danny's name wasn't Danny? Yeah. Yeah.
Why would I know that? It don't even rhyme with Danny. Not even a little bit.
It ain't even close to that. Not even the same level.
Speaker 1 Nigga, when O told me that, I almost dropped my triple finger.
Speaker 1 You can sit here and act cool if you want, Danny.
Speaker 1
I said, wait, what? He said, yeah, Danny named a damn Danny. I said, well, where Danny came from? And he gave me the story.
Nigga, Danny was a rapper.
Speaker 1 And that was his rap game and rap name, MC Danny. Oh.
Speaker 1 Nigga, that's how I felt when I found out this nigga ain't one-ish.
Speaker 1 It wasn't nothing close to ish. Yo, them niggas,
Speaker 1 they.
Speaker 1 That whole crew is.
Speaker 1 The way they did shit.
Speaker 1
Yo, Danny name is like Ryan or something. Mark or some shit.
Nigga ain't a Danny in that shit. Anyway, shout out to Danny Mark.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 everybody. That's funny.
Speaker 1 That's what this shit. What's wrong with y'all?
Speaker 1 What's wrong with who? You can't keep calling him Danny as they were the damn Danny and he don't rap no more. Nigga, the second you stop rapping, the rap named.
Speaker 1 Yo, nah. Come on, for real.
Speaker 1
The rap nameless. Y'all shit stupid.
Y'all niggas stop. I'm with you.
Speaker 1
Nelly named Not Nelly. He's a rap.
Nigga, what? He don't rap, nigga. He put a little verse out.
Speaker 1 Shut up.
Speaker 1
He performed at the inauguration. He raped.
He did Nelly.
Speaker 1
There you go. Yo, if you tried to rap.
Ice Cube named not Ice Cube?
Speaker 2 It damn sure is.
Speaker 1
Like, what are y'all talking about? He just put a song out last week, too. Damn, niggas is known by what they know.
Your name ain't ice, nigga. Oh, wait, time out.
I still.
Speaker 1 No, I can't say that.
Speaker 1
Wait, Danny still raps? I don't know what Danny does, bro. Don't you still.
If he still raps, did I take away everything I'm saying? I don't know what he does. If he's still rapping, it's cool.
Speaker 1
I don't know that. You don't know if your best friend is rap.
He's not my best friend, and I don't know if Danny raps.
Speaker 2 I think he's going to be hurt when he hears that.
Speaker 1
Danny, you better still be rapping, nigga. If you are not, you not Danny.
You can't go by Danny Dog.
Speaker 1
What the fuck is wrong with you people? You go by ice. Your name ain't no name.
I didn't start, but that wasn't my rap name.
Speaker 1
We're talking about he got that name from a form as a rap name and it's not rapping no more. Yo, you niggas with rapper names.
Yo, what's your what's your ice name?
Speaker 1 What do you mean, what's my ice name? With my ice name. Where did that come from?
Speaker 1 It came from something. What? Tell us what, nigga? No.
Speaker 1 Stand at the limp, nigga.
Speaker 1
It came from something. Never mind.
We can't have a conversation. Yeah, you're not going to tell us his origin story.
Yeah, exactly. It's fucked up.
That bet is funny, too. I know it's funny.
Speaker 1 It's definitely supposed to be definitely funny.
Speaker 1 All I'm saying is, if you create a rap name for yourself and then stop rapping, you can't be that rap name no more.
Speaker 1
Is that out of bounds to say? I agree. Yes.
It is? Sounds stupid. Okay.
Speaker 1 Like whatever you known for, you just known for.
Speaker 1
That's it. Nigga, nickname, whatever name you know.
Okay, your name is. Nigga name is Flip.
All right, but listen to this. You the only nigga that used your name as a rapper.
Let's try it this way.
Speaker 1
You used to knock niggas out. I did.
Your name is Knockout.
Speaker 1
You got flipped. If you then go...
No, not easy.
Speaker 1
If you then go on a 20-year rapper. I'm not a pacifist.
I'm not knocking nobody out. No one has been injured.
Speaker 1 Should you still be called knockout? I told y'all we went to the game and I met Mark's man
Speaker 1
and that nigga name was similar to knockout. I think it was do drop or some shit like that.
Because when he hits you, you do drop. They called that nigga that.
Speaker 1 And I was about to say, a nigga named Knockout that knocked a lot of niggas out, you might think that nigga still got it in him. He still beat me.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1
Then you better spit a verse. So you better have a verse in the talk.
And now I want to know Mark's street name.
Speaker 1 I need to know everybody's street name. What was your street name? Mouse.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 Could you squeak by yourself? Oh,
Speaker 1 shit.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Niggas talk crazy. He called you the squeakster.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga.
Speaker 1 Watch your mouth. What was your street name, ish?
Speaker 1
That wasn't your street name, bro. What's your street name? Lionheart, nigga.
What?
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I've never heard this thing before.
Speaker 1 You lying on the body.
Speaker 1
You a lion though. He's proving a point.
He's lying on the bottom. He's not in the streets no more.
He never was a project.
Speaker 1 Nobody called him Lion Hard.
Speaker 1
I'm a drill back. Nigga.
I'm a drew him back. Yeah, Yellow Big Bro lion?
Speaker 1
It was lion hall. You called him a coward.
It was TJ, which was my nickname, Trevor Jr. That's more like it.
And they call me Lion Hawk after. Why nigga call you Lion Heart? Niggas the streets.
Speaker 1 Whose they? Who's the day?
Speaker 1 How many they? How many?
Speaker 1
A lot. Alpo.
Call Webb or call Niddy right now and say, yo, what was my name before Flip? Furthermore, I'm not going to call webb and nitty online right now because they wouldn't like that.
Speaker 1 But I can call them behind the scenes and they can tell you that my name, they either call me TJ, Lil TJ, or they call me Lion Heart. I don't want to hear nothing about T or J.
Speaker 1
I want to hear somebody say, yo, we used to call a nigga Lionheart. I don't even want to hear that.
I want to hear somebody say, yo, what's up, Lionheart?
Speaker 1 I can call an act what was my nickname. Call anybody that's going to call you Lion Heart.
Speaker 1
I'm going to call somebody right now and they'd be like, yo, Mouse. Mouse, what up? A lot of people still call you Mouse.
There's a lot of folks. All right, hold up.
Speaker 1 Do you know anybody that's going to address you as Lionheart? And Danny, you're not Danny no more.
Speaker 1 Mel, did you have a street name?
Speaker 2 Jessica Rabbit, I guess.
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, no, yeah. They did.
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1
What they called me for like over a fucking decade. Uh-huh.
They did.
Speaker 1
Nothing. Lucky nigga ain't picking up.
Yeah, the Wiz ain't in Oscar no more.
Speaker 1
Lucky a nigga ain't picking up. You look at Jane ain't picking up.
The Wiz. You call the nigga now.
You lucky nigga ain't pick up, nigga.
Speaker 2 What's the origin story of Lion Heart?
Speaker 1 Because I used used to act crazy.
Speaker 2 So you didn't get Tasmania?
Speaker 1 All right, what's the next time I'm talking about that? No, no, no. See, what it is is that when you, it's just somebody that keeps pushing the bounds.
Speaker 1
And like, I was little, but I wasn't afraid to do what I. Say you're a brave.
No, he's editing his own Wikipedia page. No, I'm not.
I'm just, I swear. Then call somebody.
I don't want to hear you.
Speaker 1 You little nigga, but I'm lying harder. Yo, stop listening to rap.
Speaker 1 That nigga's all hanging out.
Speaker 1
You lying harder because you just finished getting busy. You just dumped.
You just cleared something out.
Speaker 1 That didn't happen.
Speaker 1 You dug you out of 77 schools.
Speaker 1
I still want to hear how they came up with it. Oh, shit, Flip.
That's ill how you clear it. I never got chased out of school.
Yo, you got a lying heart. You got the heart of the heart.
Speaker 1
You had to leave out the back door when the niggas was in the school. The cripple niggas was in the front gonna stab me, but I left, but I didn't get chased out of the school.
I still went.
Speaker 1
I still went the next day, nigga. All right, we're moving right, man.
Move, move. It's okay, bro.
It's okay. See, that's your problem.
Speaker 1
Y'all niggas ain't brave. Chill, L.A.
We're not praying like chill L.A. It's going to be LA, but the niggas gonna be a little horny, too.
That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 All right, okay, we're gonna go.
Speaker 1
That was tracks. That's tracks, though.
That boy's tracks.
Speaker 1
A little horny. Yeah, but yeah, all right.
Look at the ain't been a bit going. I got y'all.
Speaker 1
Southside peddling duck. You crazy.
You know. You know what a nigga you was around.
Watch your fucking mouth, bro.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 they was lying harder. And on top of that, you was the lamb.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Nigga, you was the white boy trying to be black. Listen.
Speaker 1
In order to be around them, niggas, you had to do something, ish. Yeah, shut up.
Bad.
Speaker 1
Fuck did you talk about lying heart. Oh, my goodness.
Yo, niggas, you lying out there. Black podcasters, yo.
I'm telling you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 The nigga at the top.
Speaker 1
Who? You. Is the most honest nigga in podcasting.
What?
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 About the things you want to be honest about.
Speaker 1 Not even them.
Speaker 1
Which one? No, he'll tell the truth about the shit he wants to tell the truth about. This is the other shit.
Joseph Anthony Button Jr., the most honest dude in podcasting. Yep.
Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry to kill your little scripts.
Speaker 1 Yeah, nigga, die. Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 1
Oh, man. You killing me, Smalls.
This nigga right here is different.
Speaker 1 What else up there
Speaker 1 needs our undivided attention? Did we want to talk about this Kendrick tour or did we do it already? No, we didn't. We didn't.
Speaker 1 That shit setting records already.
Speaker 1 Yeah, he's passed Eminem's record.
Speaker 1
It was nine. He made 9 million, 9.1 million in the first night.
So it's the highest grossing rap tour.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1 per one night? Yeah,
Speaker 1 per date.
Speaker 1 So first date. But
Speaker 1
this shit is looking amazing. I saw the set list.
I can't wait to go. Yeah, I cannot wait.
I'm dying, bro. I saw the set list.
They're weaving it. So it's not...
Speaker 1 He comes out.
Speaker 1
He does like four or five joints. She do joints.
He comes back, does joints.
Speaker 1 They're co-headlining. Gotcha.
Speaker 1
And he's covering everything. It's a couple records I wish he did on there, but I don't care.
Maybe he'll change it. Yeah, I hope.
I would like to see some Section 80 love.
Speaker 1 It's over. I think it's over.
Speaker 1 I think it's over.
Speaker 1 I think it's over.
Speaker 1 No knock to them or no disrespect to them. But isn't that predicated on
Speaker 1 like the times?
Speaker 1 Like nowadays with movies and shit, like the movie you'll make XYZ at the box office, that's just because ticket prices are higher than when Eddie Murphy and them was setting records at four dollars.
Speaker 1 And you're doing stadiums, yeah, at four dollars, filling them out, filling them out,
Speaker 1 and you're doing stadiums. So, as opposed to doing arena tours, which like Beyonce,
Speaker 1 20,000, Beyonce and Taylor Swift and them,
Speaker 1 they'll probably set the record next time they go out.
Speaker 1 Yeah, Beyonce's out now, it's like
Speaker 1 NFL contracts or some shit because it says the average ticket price is $536
Speaker 1 on
Speaker 1 probably for the
Speaker 1 resellers, Kendrick. No,
Speaker 1
probably for the resellers, I'm sure. Yeah, that's resellers.
Yeah,
Speaker 1
Average ticket price like $192. Yeah, $192.
It says,
Speaker 1 What are you trying to keep people from the concert?
Speaker 1 No, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1 the box is doing that. It says the average Kendrick Lamar concert ticket price, 2025 tours, estimated to be around $536.
Speaker 1 However, the resell tickets can range from $92 to $647. So the retail, that wasn't in counting.
Speaker 1 Courtney Torian data, opening night in Minneapolis grossed over $9.1 million for more than 47,000 fans at an average price of $192.70.
Speaker 1 Like I said, the previous record was Eminem
Speaker 1 Highest-grossing Rap Concert. So just one night.
Speaker 1 He's already broke that on night one
Speaker 1 in
Speaker 1 Minneapolis. So that's just how when you get to these bigger cities,
Speaker 1
that's what I'm saying. This is a feat.
Yeah, for sure. No matter how you knock it, how you look at it.
This is still a feat. The money is money.
Absolutely. This is still a feat.
And it's
Speaker 1 52, I think, songs
Speaker 1 total.
Speaker 1
Okay, wait. Fire.
52 songs? That's what they're doing. Between the two of them.
No, the set list, between him and Sisa. It's a total song.
And it's fired. Just like, my girl's going to love it.
Speaker 1
That's the fire part. 50 songs.
The set list is fired. Their attendance is fire.
Luther is still number one. Their collaboration.
That's fire. Sissa's album jumped back
Speaker 1 into fucking
Speaker 1 Billboard.
Speaker 1
Select. Her old album.
Yeah,
Speaker 1
SOS. Yeah, that's fire.
Ridiculous. Absolute.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 all things are working for TDE right now, with the exception of Ab Soul tour dates. And I do hope they get even that together at some point.
Speaker 1 I think they'll get something.
Speaker 1 I hope, anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 1
His last two projects deserve a live performance. They do.
For sure. Agreed.
Speaker 1 I wish they would have done another.
Speaker 1 I mean, I know expecting this now is completely off the table, but I wouldn't have been minded at a, wouldn't have been mad at another championship tour, like how they did with the entire TDE tour.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
And it gave fans who were there to see a Kendrick Assizza the chance to see some of the other acts on the label. And that was an amazing tour.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1
We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some pop-ups.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Here and there.
Speaker 1 I know. I've heard enough chatter to know that when that tour hits Prudential.
Speaker 1
What tour? Ain't no Prudential. Ain't no Prudential V.
I mean, not Prudential. I'm sorry.
It's Matt Life. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm at Matt Life. Next Week.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Next week.
Speaker 1 That's going to be nice. Dan, what am I wearing? Family trip.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1
trip with you guys. Tell you, my mom is asking for like 12 tickets to shows now.
I don't know what's going on. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Joey, we need nine tickets to Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 Oh, she's not out.
Speaker 1
Got it, mom. I got it.
See, my mom's ain't there yet. She just asked me for two.
I could do that. That's cool.
cool, yeah. I love it.
That's cool. Then give me two for this, two for the.
Speaker 1
Just give me the list. And it's like two of them coming up right around her birthday.
Cool. There you go.
Go.
Speaker 1 Go. And yeah, that Patty LaBelle,
Speaker 1
that shit is May 24th at the Barklist. Not when they hit Jersey in September.
Yeah. The Barklist is May 24th.
So.
Speaker 1 That's Shaka Khan, Patty LaBelle, Gladys Knight, and Stephanie Mills. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I'm sending her to the September one, which is prudential. Got it.
Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What What else needs our attention up there? We ran through Marvin Gabe. We did Shadure, Rock and Roll, Hall of Court.
Speaker 1 What? Who wrote male birth control up there?
Speaker 1 I did. Let me hear.
Speaker 1 Shocker.
Speaker 1
I just thought I'd shocker. Shocker.
I know who wrote it, though. Oh, let's see here.
But you got it. All right, hold on one second here.
Speaker 1 Male birth control.
Speaker 2 I'm on it.
Speaker 2 A non-hormonal male contraceptive implant shows promise. It lasts at least least two years.
Speaker 1 You get IUDs?
Speaker 2 Kind of, yeah.
Speaker 2 Kind of, yeah. The implant, it's called ADAM, is a water-based soluble hydrogel placed in the sperm ducts, preventing sperm from mixing with semen.
Speaker 2 In phase one of the trials, Adam successfully blocked semen or sperm released for 24 months, with no sperm detected in the semen in two participants.
Speaker 1 Where does sperm go?
Speaker 2 Where does the sperm go?
Speaker 1 Yeah, it just stays in your body. Probably absorb back into your body.
Speaker 1 See.
Speaker 1 My question, what they inject that shit in you?
Speaker 2
It's gel. It's inserted via a 10-minute minimally invasive procedure.
No serious adverse events have been reported.
Speaker 2 And it also received full regulatory approval in phase two clinical trials.
Speaker 1
Like your shit. No, my shit permanent, though, B.
No, I'm saying, but 10 minutes. Vasectomies aren't permanent.
Speaker 2 Huh? Vasectomies aren't permanent.
Speaker 1 If you want them to be there. If you want them to be there.
Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, but they're not permanent.
Speaker 1 And they're not 100% either.
Speaker 1 They are permanent.
Speaker 1 How are they not 100%?
Speaker 2 What's that football player that was on the?
Speaker 1
Antonio Cromarty. There you go.
But that's more on the procedure. That's more.
Speaker 1 They fucked up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Oh, the procedure was fucked up.
Speaker 1 Yeah. You get a vasectomy, you have to get
Speaker 1 a semen test afterwards.
Speaker 1 And that's how they make sure that it was properly done.
Speaker 1
And once they test and they say, okay, there's zero sperm count in here, they know you good. And you can keep checking that.
But yeah, if you cut it and it's not cut right or something like that,
Speaker 1 you can still get sperm through there. Got it.
Speaker 1 Is that all we have on male power?
Speaker 1 Is that everything? That was it.
Speaker 2
That was it. Yeah, it was interesting.
Just thought it was interesting because men don't seem to like to take birth control.
Speaker 1 I don't see why.
Speaker 2 Did you know that the pill was originally for you guys?
Speaker 1
What pill? Mel, we're going to keep creating black men. There's nothing you can do about it.
I have no idea. What pills?
Speaker 1
Birth control pills. They'll trying to get us on this shit.
Was made for men?
Speaker 2 They were originally made for men.
Speaker 2 And then when they tested them on men, men complained of headaches and a couple of other symptoms.
Speaker 2 And so then they reversed it, put it, gave it to women, and you know, now we, you know, the odd blood quality.
Speaker 1
Cause y'all bodies instead. You know, death or, you know.
They gave the headache to the headache. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Ooh, turned to cinder. That was good.
Speaker 1 That's, yeah. Hey, yo, real quick, how long should you be indebted to a person that glows you up?
Speaker 1 Life.
Speaker 1 It depends on what you mean by
Speaker 1 the question.
Speaker 1 You have to understand, I mean, explain, indebted, what that means.
Speaker 2 But also, what's the glow up?
Speaker 1 Glow-up, legitimize you, take you out the streets, put you on, put you on, put you in position to make money, put you in position to make legitimate money or legal money,
Speaker 1 just change your whole life.
Speaker 2 At minimum, a very healthy length of time.
Speaker 1 Life.
Speaker 1 20. What's indebted? Yeah, it depends on what I got to do.
Speaker 1
Tell me, you got to just, I mean, not justify, you got to specify what you mean by indebted. Because I think that's the thing.
And you can never sever ties with that person.
Speaker 1 You can't do your own thing. Like, what's indebted?
Speaker 1 Subjective.
Speaker 1
But to me, indebted. I'm speaking for.
What Angela was trying to do for ghosts? I'm speaking for a relationship situation. And on top of that, if you're trying to break up with the person, like just
Speaker 1 can't really move.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 She wanted to legitimize
Speaker 1 and change your life and create a life with you.
Speaker 1 I think that... If a woman does that for a man,
Speaker 1 even the most getting busiest of the men, like outside, all the dope boy money, illegal money, whatever you want to put the money at. If a young lady comes and legitimizes him,
Speaker 1 cleans him up, cleans the money up.
Speaker 1 How long should should he be indebted to her? I don't think it's a time period. I think that that person should play
Speaker 1 or you should have a special place in your heart for that person forever.
Speaker 1 I don't think that the person should be able to hold it over your head forever, but I think that person should be near and dear to you forever.
Speaker 2 And should be able to come to you.
Speaker 1 Anytime they need something, should you be able to give them whatever they need, whatever they want in the moment? Do you put
Speaker 1 it circumstantial? Because I think that Angela and Ghost, let's say
Speaker 1 they were in a relationship for 10 years, right? And then they broke up and Ghost remarried.
Speaker 1 I don't think Angela could come calling on him whenever she felt like it, if he's in a new marriage or a new situation. I think, again, that she should play like within reason.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I think I would be indebted to her for the rest of my life, but I don't think that she could just call whenever she felt like it.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it depends on what the ask is. It depends on what the ask is.
Speaker 1 Because even away from relationships, even in like entertainment or business or anything like that, just because you helped put me on.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm always going to be respect and love, but that doesn't mean like
Speaker 1 you can abuse that shit.
Speaker 1 That's true.
Speaker 1 I agree with that.
Speaker 1
And you don't owe me because you did that. Right.
But what if it changes your life? What if whatever I did for you?
Speaker 1
Now put you on a strategy in a different stratosphere. It changed your life forever.
Now you super up. And if it wasn't for me and my sacrifices or whatever I did, you wouldn't be in that position.
Speaker 1 So then now, if I don't give a fuck if you,
Speaker 1
if you, if I need you at this moment and it's important, I don't want you to think about it. I want you to be...
The person wouldn't want you to think about it.
Speaker 1 They want you to come through for them instantly because I was the one that put you in this position.
Speaker 1 It still depends.
Speaker 1 One, that depend on the ask. And two, you should, like.
Speaker 1 If you're doing something for somebody. Yeah.
Speaker 1 With the expectation down the line that when I come back, they're going to return it.
Speaker 1 It's a little,
Speaker 1 it don't come off as just genuine to me. Because also, what happens in a situation where you give someone an opportunity, right?
Speaker 1
They blow up and do good, but you also make money and do well on the other side. You benefited from that.
Do they still owe you a drop of a dime, whatever you ask? You know, everyone won.
Speaker 1 You're A ⁇ R. You find me rapping, and I go on to be...
Speaker 1 Jay-Z, Eminem, Kendrick, Drake.
Speaker 1
You found me at my cousin's cookout. You know what I'm saying? And you had the connections to plug me.
But you also made, you might not have made as much money as I did.
Speaker 1 I might have made a billion dollars, but you made $50 million, $100 million.
Speaker 1 So you ate off of my success as well.
Speaker 1 It was a mutually beneficial situation. Yeah, I might not be where I am if it wasn't for Flip, but you still ate.
Speaker 1
So I would be indebted to you for life because you changed my life, you changed my lineage, you changed my family's life. But I think within reason, your ass can be too big.
Pause.
Speaker 1 Now, see, in those examples, usually there's some paperwork involved
Speaker 1 with the, I discovered you.
Speaker 1 I discovered you. But I think just putting somebody on,
Speaker 1 yeah, I'm with y'all. The ad, the ad, as long as the ass ain't too crazy.
Speaker 1 What the fuck, y'all niggas doing in here, bro?
Speaker 1
Corey, keep your little dusties out of here, my nigga. Some shit on the couch.
Bugs and shit. Yeah, nigga.
Bed bugs. Stop acting like you never had bed bugs before.
Speaker 1 I'm not acting. I didn't.
Speaker 2 You've never experienced bed bugs.
Speaker 1 Yes, you did. Why are you saying that so shockingly? Because you bought mattresses from the street.
Speaker 1
That's why. That's why.
Because you bought mattresses from fucking drug dealers.
Speaker 1
That's why. Wall plastic.
Wall rat and rats. Wall trucks that were kidnapped and stolen.
And
Speaker 1 that's where you bought mattresses. So
Speaker 1 I don't think it's so out of bounds. My man did
Speaker 1
not. He didn't buy any stolen property.
One of them might have had, you know what I mean, a couple of young people.
Speaker 1 I don't know what what that is. Or not even
Speaker 1 a hotel.
Speaker 1
Movie theater. Hotel.
You've been in them. You've been in the joints.
Speaker 1 You've been in the joints.
Speaker 1
They had. Me and you have been in places where they have bed bugs.
Damn, they have bed bugs in the Waldorf Astoria. That don't mean that I personally came in contact with the bed bugs.
Speaker 1 You've open yourself up to a lawsuit from Waldorf Astoria.
Speaker 1
No, it's documented. I'm just telling you.
They're going to document you.
Speaker 1
They're going to come to you, though. Don't worry about it.
That's stupid, yo. Yeah.
No, nigga, I haven't had no personal interaction with bed bugs. You've been in the loop.
Speaker 1
I think they closed the loop down specifically because there was a bed bug problem, if my memory searched. I'm telling you, they have.
In a few years.
Speaker 1 Yo, you niggas is dope. That don't mean niggas had bed.
Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I wasn't in that room.
Speaker 1 It was an all-19.
Speaker 1
That's not true. It's got to stop.
219? It's got to stop. There were bed bugs in 219.
You put them there, too. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1
What? A little dusty. And don't try to act like all your life you've been fucking the cleanest of girls, too.
Some of them carry bed bugs around.
Speaker 1
I believe that to be true. Some of them carry bed bugs around.
And lice, nigga, and crab louse, nigga. Crabs, nigga.
What time do you caught crabs?
Speaker 1 And you travel, so you be going to all them spots with the bed bugs be at.
Speaker 1 I've never caught crabs in my life. Yes, you did.
Speaker 1 Yo, you niggas is nuts. You did.
Speaker 1
What have you had? Nothing. Zero.
He wouldn't tell this raw cash if he did. That's not true.
You put the cream on your shit. Never.
Speaker 1 I had the cream.
Speaker 1 This shit was.
Speaker 1
I wear condos. I ate these bitches.
Cool it down. You got to slow it down.
True. I've never had no venereal disease knock on.
Some did, yo. You did.
I'm with you, ish. Y'all niggas is.
Speaker 1
I did have crabs, but no venereal disease. That's a good one.
You had crabs before? Right, is she lying on you? Yeah, no.
Speaker 1
I know it wasn't no, because I went, it was freshman year of college, and I didn't know. I wouldn't even get no yams like that.
You sat on the toilet? Yeah, exactly what it was. And what's crazy is,
Speaker 1
And I brought my own toilet seats. I'm an OCD.
So I brought my own toilet seat from Home Depot. Yeah, and I would walk down the hallway and lay it down on the chrome so that I wouldn't get nothing.
Speaker 1 Y'all had chrome seats at your college? It was more hot.
Speaker 1
It was regular, like regular, you know, I'm saying, like, the regular toilet board. It wasn't that.
The metal shit.
Speaker 1 What do you call it? That's chrome.
Speaker 1
It's a jail shit, huh? Oh, wait, what? They not? Porcelain. Porcelain, fam.
Oh, okay. I don't know.
You talking about jail. Yeah.
You talk about tomato tomatoes.
Speaker 1 They didn't have the button on the side.
Speaker 1 They didn't have the button on the side.
Speaker 1 What's some little white fiend sitting right there? There's nothing wrong with that. Like, you worked your way out of there.
Speaker 1
Well, I definitely worked with them crabs, man. It was the worst.
And then one day I started itching and shit. Yeah.
Then it got worse. Then it got worse.
I heard that shit.
Speaker 1 Then my homie said, well, you know,
Speaker 1
all you need is dog shampoo. And I, which sounded right to me because I was a freshman.
And I said, uh,
Speaker 1
you sure? He said, You ever seen a dog with crabs? Oh, yeah. I wouldn't know if the dog with crabs.
Same like airtight logic in 1996. Holy shit.
Speaker 1
Dog with crabs. Dog shampoo was a lot cheaper than crab removal lace removal.
Okay. Yeah.
But it didn't work.
Speaker 1 A month later. It's easy to see why he's a round earther.
Speaker 1
Watch your fucking dog. All this globe is around with.
Yo, just get your dog shampoo. Yeah, I'll get the cat letter shampoo, y'all.
Speaker 1 So you think because you believe in flat earth, you didn't catch no S C D's or crabs or nothing? Well, he can't get crabs now because he got the procedure done. He ain't got no hair.
Speaker 1
He got the procedure done. He got, yeah, lasers.
He got his hair laser done.
Speaker 2 So, wait, did the dog shampoo work?
Speaker 1
Man, pink down there now with balls. I don't know that shit ain't work.
I didn't get any fleas.
Speaker 1 You know, you gotta still have crabs.
Speaker 1
And I tried everything to kill the motherfucker. They had the most annoying, especially when you don't treat it.
Yo, what's the shit you had to
Speaker 1 can't you just shave off your shit? No, okay, and we're moving on.
Speaker 1
Another myth. And we did it.
Yo, what you did to get rid of your shit? I never had. What's your shit?
Speaker 1 Yeah, which thing? Which thing?
Speaker 1 Which time?
Speaker 1
Trigger. I don't know what you're talking about.
No, no. No shot, no cream, no nothing.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay.
I have one thing that I've talked about many a time.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we talked about that. What was that? Trechaminosis.
Speaker 1
Trech or what? Trechaminosis. That shit feel kind of good, though.
Trechamison. Yo, what's up? Trechaminosis.
When you pee, that shit feels good. It's like a sensation.
Speaker 1 And I've said that before here.
Speaker 1 I won't say it again.
Speaker 1 Carson Carbony.
Speaker 1 We don't want to get into that. I talked about that on Patreon.
Speaker 1 Get a rice kit, y'all. Look at me.
Speaker 1 That shit just feels like your piss is stressed out.
Speaker 1 When you pee,
Speaker 1 oh, that shit just lost her face.
Speaker 1 They do. They do.
Speaker 1 You start peeing like fucking DJ explaining white lines.
Speaker 1 She starts peeing like the little chim dance.
Speaker 1 The piss is chewing out.
Speaker 1 So I want to play for you guys this awkward moment in this Bill Belichick interview
Speaker 1 where he has his young girlfriend on the side who interrupts when he's asked where they met.
Speaker 1 So I'm going to play it and just get you guys' thoughts on this. I have my own.
Speaker 1 But if you'd like to hear it, here it goes.
Speaker 1 Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 1
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about your private life.
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 1
Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks. Just try to do what I feel like is best for me and what's right.
How did you guys meet? Not talking about this.
Speaker 1
It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on. Make sure that that's what we're doing.
Oliver
Speaker 1
was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there.
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about what's happening.
And
Speaker 1 this interview is with CBS Sunday Morning aired on April 27th.
Speaker 1 This whole straight voice
Speaker 1 direct answer shit might work when you got the Bengals next week.
Speaker 1 It worked at the fucking post-game press conference. Not so much on CBS when we're starting to get asked for the tea.
Speaker 1
And then she's right there on the side. I do have a thought about this, not sharing it immediately.
What do any of you guys have to say about this?
Speaker 1
So she wasn't being interviewed. She was also a little bit of a title.
No, she was just on the side. She was producing him.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 That's what that sound like.
Speaker 1 I'm always fascinated when the interview subject is so unprepared for a question that is so obviously coming. You're 70, how is he 74? No.
Speaker 1 How is Barjay?
Speaker 1
He is 73. 73.
Her answering the question didn't tell me he was so unprepared. Yeah, he didn't even get a chance.
I'm saying they should have coordinated that. Like, I don't think I.
Speaker 1 You think they did. Oh, you think he wanted that? No, I think that they were told beforehand what not to broach and the guy broached it anyway.
Speaker 1 I seen her.
Speaker 1 jump up from the side and say, hey, we're not answering that. She might know a little more about Bill's health than we do
Speaker 1 that's a good point also to where she felt the need to do that on the patriots there were a team of people on the side to say nah next question out of you no not just that i'm bill belich my people respect me in this industry i'm him
Speaker 1 and the questions that i don't want asked they don't they don't ask them yeah which we know this person went above and beyond to do some salacious shit in this day and time and they checked it and we're not and we're not used to wait go ahead i was gonna say that i I was just going to say, that's not really a salacious question.
Speaker 1 It's an honest question. Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 In the context of that.
Speaker 1
If it was discussed ahead of time, like we're not getting into this and you still do it, that makes it salacious. If it wasn't discussed, it's salacia.
If it wasn't discussed, it's still salacious.
Speaker 1 You did it for a headline. Okay.
Speaker 2 I would just consider that crossing a boundary, but I don't necessarily say that it's a salacious question. If he was asking direct questions about their sex life, I feel like that's salacious.
Speaker 2 Or maybe I'm just splitting hairs here.
Speaker 1 When I work for CBS,
Speaker 1 with CBS, I just say I work for BET, the same company. You know, when we do CBS stuff, you would say to somebody, the public would say, hey, don't ask me about this thing.
Speaker 1 It's not salacious, by the way, because the definition of salacious is having or conveying undue or inappropriate interest in sexual matters.
Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. It's not salacious.
Speaker 1
So you are also salacious is the wrong word, but y'all know what we're trying to do. Yeah, you know what we're saying.
Clickbait. I still think it's salacious, but I mean, because it's not
Speaker 1 salacious because it still ties in to fucking. The implication is, why are you fucking this? This
Speaker 1
little girl. And y'all know that that age gap shit has been a big topic of discussion.
Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 1
And I mean, it's different if she's not there with him and he by himself and you trying to have like a real nigga moment with him. She's 10 feet away.
Right.
Speaker 1
And that's why I think they say we're not going to ask. But in my experience, what you do is you say, look, I have to ask it, but I won't press you on it.
If you say no comment, I'll move on.
Speaker 1 See, I think that's foul when they do that. That's super foul.
Speaker 1 And if that's y'all's practice,
Speaker 1
then we should change those practices. It depends on the question.
Some certainty ain't my business. If it's not my business, I don't ask it.
But for example, if
Speaker 1 if I interviewed Shador Sanders tomorrow,
Speaker 1 I would feel compelled to ask him about the prank. And if he said, I don't want to talk about that prank, shit, I'm mad.
Speaker 1 Say no comment.
Speaker 1 But if he asked you beforehand to not ask him about the prank because he don't want to lend his light to some white boy who was trying to be funny in his moment of bliss that he worked his whole life for,
Speaker 1 then what would you do? I would make a judgment call based on how important I thought it was to the news cycle.
Speaker 1 Oh, see, that's not fair. In that specific case,
Speaker 1 in that specific case,
Speaker 1 I would leave it alone because I don't think it's that important to the Shador story. But if Shador said, I don't want to talk about my draft position,
Speaker 1 you see what I'm saying? Like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 1
Well, then you shouldn't have him on. I think that's right.
There's people that call here for an interview all the time.
Speaker 1
And when they send their list, if that's exactly what I wanted to talk about, then sorry, buddy. There's no point in you coming up here.
I'm not even going to play with you like that.
Speaker 1
But you know what a lot of celebrities do. They say there's no parameters.
And then right before they sit in the chair, they go, oh, don't ask me about that thing.
Speaker 1 When we wouldn't have brought you to your point, we wouldn't have brought you up here if we knew you weren't going to talk about that thing. That's where it gets a little dicey.
Speaker 1
And then I got to leave it. And then I think it's on you to say in that moment, then we're going to go a different route.
Right. Yeah, but that's a tough call to make.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a especially when it's like a headliner or you're about to go live or you got an hour to get this pre-take.
Speaker 1
You just said, yo, I depending upon how important you think it is to the news cycle. Yeah.
So that's what they're doing. They think that these things are important to the news cycle.
Speaker 1 They clickbaiting. They're going to get us a return.
Speaker 1
And so they bring, they broach any category possible. Yo, we can see, yo, Bill Belichick comments on relationship with 22-year-old girl and says it's only natural.
So you want you won the day.
Speaker 1 Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
You're trying to win the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so everybody's playing their interest. I'm not mad at either person.
Speaker 1
Nah, no, you got to be mad at the person that's putting winning the day ahead of how you treat people. That's true.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1
I mean, I'm saying in this case, assuming they didn't say don't bring it up. Okay, gotcha.
If they said don't bring it up, again, leave it alone. That's not who Bill Belichick is.
Speaker 1 That's not the story for him.
Speaker 1 I don't even think they should. And I'm with what you're saying, but asking that with shorty 10 feet away is kind of nuts and it's Bill Bella
Speaker 1 again I'm saying this
Speaker 1 discussed ahead of time you see a couple that has been in the news whatever hey how'd y'all meet
Speaker 1 somebody
Speaker 2 why do you think why do you think that it's nuts that they asked with her sitting 10 feet away
Speaker 2 Do you think that it was dismissive of them to ask him the question when she's sitting right there?
Speaker 1 Is that the issue? I think that if you have Bill Bella, well, well, first of all,
Speaker 1 she's a woman and she's sitting right there and you know what you're doing. You're asking something because there's a 60-year age gap here and you're trying to win the day.
Speaker 1
I don't think that you should try to win the day at a woman's expense. That's one.
Two, if you have Bill Belichick there, I assume that you know he's been private for 50 years. That's the main part.
Speaker 1
He don't do interviews. He doesn't do what you're trying to get him to do.
It's different if you got fucking shiggy or fucking me or fucking like it's different. We'll come up there.
Speaker 1 I just have a question. Bill Belichick is not that.
Speaker 2
And I know that he doesn't do interviews. I know that he's a notoriously private person.
So I guess what I'm asking is
Speaker 2 since he doesn't do interviews, what was the point of this interview? Just like
Speaker 1 a book coming out. I think it's a book.
Speaker 2 Okay, so it's a book promotion.
Speaker 1 Bill Belichick's life has been football.
Speaker 2 I understand. Like, I know.
Speaker 1 98%
Speaker 1 football.
Speaker 1 So when you get him up there to now discuss something about his personal life that may may be teetering the line of gossip or teetering a lot, not, I won't call it gossip because it's real, but teetering a line of inappropriate shit that he hasn't stood for for the last 50 years, I just think it's nasty.
Speaker 2 He's in the eye of the fucking of a hurricane.
Speaker 1
And it's CBS, not ESPN, so that also changes it. Yeah, but he don't normally do these, but he don't normally be here.
So if he's here, you're going to get some different.
Speaker 1 And that's what I was about to say. I have a problem with because look how we're approaching the Bill Belichick topic and look how we approach the Shannon Sharp topic.
Speaker 1
You're holding the Bill Belicha, that's Bill Belichick. It's still the same thing as far as the age gap difference in women.
And we're approaching this with more kid gloves. I completely agree.
Speaker 1
Well, that's a false parallel. This is a parallel.
It's a false parallel.
Speaker 1
Tell me how it's like. One person is doing it.
Shannon and Shannon wasn't doing an interview. Shannon and him and Shannon
Speaker 1 accusations against him. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Like they put that accusations against. You know what I mean? Shannon posted
Speaker 1
rape. From him and the girl.
I get it.
Speaker 1
Shannon's been accused of sexual assault. That's not the same.
And he's being interviewed directly to mingle those two.
Speaker 1 I thought we were looking at the age difference.
Speaker 1
We're not discussing that. So we don't care about the age difference.
I do, but that's not the point. I think the point now is sort of like how we talking about it with Bill Bells.
Speaker 1 Because I think if Shannon Sharp came out, I'd say the same thing. And if there's no sexual assault allegation,
Speaker 1 I wouldn't be like, why are you dating this girl from Check? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
That's my point. If there's no sexual assault, nothing, and it's just a clean conversation, then everybody is doing age gaps.
Have at it out there.
Speaker 2 And I totally understand that, but Flip is right.
Speaker 2 The fact of the matter is, in addition to the sexual assault claims, a huge part of the conversation is the massive age gap between Shannon Sharp and that girl.
Speaker 1 For sure.
Speaker 2 And the age gap, the massive age gap between these two.
Speaker 2 Those two girls are, what, two years fucking apart?
Speaker 1
They're five years apart. We're talking about that.
I think it's okay.
Speaker 1
I thought she was 22. She was 24.
The girl in Shannon Sharp's case was 19.
Speaker 1 When they met.
Speaker 1
Got it, got it. Got it.
I think it's okay for us to talk about it as a society. But the question is, when you get that person in the room, is it our business to press them on it in that room?
Speaker 2 But to your point,
Speaker 2 this is not ESPN. This is CBS, and it would be a little bit more titillating and a little bit more, you know, personal, you know, personal get to know you since you are so private.
Speaker 2 Since we all have known Bill Belichick to be so private, maybe this is the time where he starts to peel back on.
Speaker 1
Like, fuck, he has a book. With no context, I would ask.
But again, if he said he didn't want to talk about it, I would leave it alone.
Speaker 1 And if he told me ahead of time, don't bring it up, I wouldn't bring it up.
Speaker 1 Have you ever, have you been in that position where somebody actually had to bring it up and you still felt that the job and the story was more important than how I think that's unethical?
Speaker 1 I either tell you, what I always say to the person is, I have to ask you this. You can say no, comment, or no.
Speaker 1
Or I concede the point and say, I won't ask it. If it's something that they persuade me on, but I've never like sandbagged somebody where I said, I won't ask.
I'm asking. I'll sandbags.
Blind side.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, because I think that's not okay.
Speaker 1 I think that's wrong.
Speaker 2
I've been doing that in my interviews where I'll have like pre-discussion with them. I'm like, I'm going to ask you these questions to make sure that they're comfortable.
Like, that is ethical.
Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 comfortability what you hope is that a person won't you ask them something that they won't expect you like i remember asking jada pinkett smith about having an open marriage back like 15 years ago and she just wasn't expecting that because she was coming to talk about the angela davis film that she she ep she's produced the angela davis documentary so i asked her because she i don't think she her team didn't think to tell me not to ask it and she gave a great answer that that made news you know that hit the news cycle so we won the day but if she had said don't ask me nothing about my relationship i wouldn't have asked her anything about it you know what i mean because i do and you find it will have come through.
Speaker 1 No, nothing. I did not.
Speaker 1 And you find it unethical when that happens. I didn't love the album, huh? You find it unethical when it happens.
Speaker 1 I think it's unethical to take things that aren't people, that we don't have a right to know or that you haven't talked about. Like Shannon Sharp, for example, has talked about dating young girls.
Speaker 1
Right? So I would feel more open saying to him, you've mentioned this. Why? Bill Belichick is now out here moving like Neil.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1
I don't know anything about Billy. That's a good way to do that.
People have been putting, he's on the beach. He just trying to do what retired people do.
Speaker 1 And because of who he is, they're putting him on page six and National Enquirer and all these magazines. And in this light that I don't have to care about whether I'm on CBS, ESPN,
Speaker 1 I want to talk about your book.
Speaker 2
But it's true. But to that point, he is no longer that guy anymore.
He is retired, but now he's pushing a book.
Speaker 1 He's not retired.
Speaker 1 He's coaching. He's a coach on the UNC.
Speaker 1
He retired from the NFL. NFL.
Got it. Okay.
Okay. Got it.
Got it. Got it.
If I was his publicist, I would have directed him.
Speaker 1 And when they asked you about the, if this happens, just say, I've always liked to keep my private life private, and I still.
Speaker 2 And that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 Where was the publicist? Why is the girlfriend talking up?
Speaker 1
Well, that's the other thing. That's why I think that's the thing.
We don't know that the girlfriend is not the publicist. Like, we don't know nothing.
Facts, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1
The girlfriend in that moment moved like the publicist. She sure did.
Sure, did. She sure did.
She did. She did.
And she might be. I mean, there's a reason we haven't seen him for a million years.
Speaker 1 Maybe she's kind of the person. We don't know that she's not the caretaker.
Speaker 1
We don't know nothing about the nature nature of their relationship. At all.
We don't know
Speaker 1
if he done handed over some type of lifetime rights or anything. We don't know shit.
All we ever just assume as the public is, all right, they fucking, and that's it.
Speaker 1 But that don't have to be the extent of what's going on.
Speaker 2 But do you think that it's fair that people are very curious? Do you think that's fair? Sure.
Speaker 1 Yeah, people are fair to be curious. You don't want to be curious.
Speaker 1
It's just a question of what's our business. I find it.
It ain't your business just because you're curious. I find it a lot.
Speaker 2 We know a lot about people's business that we should not be knowing.
Speaker 1 But that's because they put their business.
Speaker 1
A lot of people are putting their business out there. Sometimes we don't need to know this shit.
And that's still like people got to have, I don't know what type of social cues people got.
Speaker 1 You got to just know what's your business and what ain't. That don't say what you should be retaining and what you shouldn't, or what you should read or not read.
Speaker 1 But you should know when something ain't your business. Right.
Speaker 1
I agree. That don't mean that we, I mean, blogs on blog.
Yeah. There's people making millions and millions and millions of dollars off of other people's business.
That's a fact. That is a fact.
Speaker 1
But that ain't for, you know, I mean, we feel entitled. That said, I got some judgments.
I think shit's gross and weird.
Speaker 1 And I can't
Speaker 1 I can't unthink that, but I don't feel the need to. What's gross and weird about it?
Speaker 1 It's a real conversation. I think the way I look at girls that age
Speaker 1
is very much like father or daughter. It's where my brain goes.
I'm not saying everybody has to look at it that way, but it would be weird for me to date somebody who's the age
Speaker 1
who might be the age of my grand or great-grandchildren. For me, that would just gross me out.
I'm not saying everyone has to feel that way. I'm not trying to, but for me, it's weird.
Speaker 1
I don't know their relationship. I don't know anything about it.
But when I see it, it just, it's just something about it just grosses me out.
Speaker 1 I think that
Speaker 1 I think it's more common than we think.
Speaker 1 I think that men in their 60s, men.
Speaker 1
We out of here now. What? Let's go.
Fuck that PhD shit. No,
Speaker 1
I think that men in their 50s, 60s, 70s be more attracted to these 20-year-old girls than we think. And I think had them give them some money and give them the choice.
Little 25-year-old man.
Speaker 1 I think they would be fucking with these 20-something-year-olds. They'd be warmer than these 70-year-old ass.
Speaker 1
I think they would be fucking with a lot of these young girls. 70-year-old ass.
I heard this.
Speaker 1 20-year-old.
Speaker 1 i mean
Speaker 1 they take the dentures out the old ones
Speaker 1 these topics be triggering the fuck out of me like that shit when her foot's all gonna go like this nigga she's upset why y'all never just but why y'all never tell us that Like, why we gotta guess when we do that in real time?
Speaker 1 She has these topics to do. She can say it, y'all.
Speaker 2 Because you don't have to guess. And also because
Speaker 2 I'm an interloper here.
Speaker 2 This is guys, and I'm just going to stand back and let you guys have the jokes and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 It's fine.
Speaker 1 They make a lot of good space for you.
Speaker 1
You're not an interloper. You inherit these same beliefs when the shoe was on the other foot.
Yeah. You come in here all the time and say, shout out to the old champs.
That's dating.
Speaker 1 Shout out to younger.
Speaker 2
I have not said those words. Those words have never left my mouth.
What are you asking me?
Speaker 1 Hold on a second. You said you felt like away or you were offended or something.
Speaker 2 No, I'm not offended.
Speaker 2 I just concur with Mark. I think that it's really, I think it's gross.
Speaker 1 If it was the other way around, and also, like,
Speaker 1 because when Share, when
Speaker 1 we talked about Share, you big Share up.
Speaker 1
When we talked about Share, you, and when we talked about Khaleese and what's his nigga name, oh, Murray Murray, you big DC. You said he was funny.
Oh, he's funny, though.
Speaker 2 Khaleese was 40-something years old, and he was in his 60s.
Speaker 2 It's not the same.
Speaker 1 Let's talk about Share.
Speaker 2 And with Sher, when she's like in her 70s, dude is like in his late, mid to late 30s.
Speaker 1 no no no no how how old is he i think he was in his early 30s and she was in her 70s it's a 40-year gap i'm when you're when you're 19 when you're when you're 19 and 20 and 21 and 22 that matters it's it's it's significant okay because what now guess what when my granddad was 85 chicks was coming around it was 40.
Speaker 1 Chicks was coming around
Speaker 1
55. 40.
Like, yes, there's a big age difference.
Speaker 1
He's 90, nigga. You're about to kick the fucking bucket.
But you know what? It's a difference. But if I roll back 30 years and he's 55 and they're 15, I'm going to say different.
Speaker 1
You see what I'm saying? Like, the 40 years don't bother me. It's a different thing.
Well, you wouldn't have been different.
Speaker 1 If that's what they was doing in the 40s and 50s, let me ask your girl dad something.
Speaker 2 Your daughter's 19 years old show up with a 67-year-old.
Speaker 2 What are you guys thinking?
Speaker 1
What are you going to do? Exactly. I'm not with you.
What are you going to do? I'm not with you.
Speaker 1 I got an even better question. I'm a green.
Speaker 2 What if one of your daughters starts dating one of your fucking friends?
Speaker 1 Yo, you
Speaker 1
please tell me that. Mean face.
I'm a green. I'm a green.
Speaker 1 I really want to know that one.
Speaker 1 I think that somebody at 19 years old has not lived life enough to be making a decision where a 45-year-old man or a 50-year-old man should be engaging with them, right?
Speaker 1 I think that if somebody's 60 and somebody's 32 years old,
Speaker 1 that's a 28, 28-year gap. But the 32-year-old has experienced life more and has a bigger ability to practice discernment.
Speaker 1 Hence, when we talked about the Drea shit, when we talked about that boy being 21 years old and we tried to get you to comment on that, you said you didn't see nothing wrong with it because the boy had amassed so much money or was at a certain place financially in his life.
Speaker 2
That is, that's not what I said. And I was clear on the fact that personally, that would not be something that I would do.
I don't understand what a 39 year old woman.
Speaker 1 You said she wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 I said, I don't understand what a 39-year-old woman has in common with a 22-year-old.
Speaker 1 You did say that. You said you would never do it.
Speaker 2
Exactly. So it's the same thing.
I don't understand what a 67-year-old man has in common or 70 whatever has in common with a 24-year-old woman.
Speaker 1 Let me answer your question.
Speaker 2 And I use that term very loosely.
Speaker 1
I'm beating his ass. Let me, I don't fuck that talk.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1
My daughter comes in. My daughter gets up with no six.
I don't do it.
Speaker 1 I don't call that other talk. I'm beating his ass wrong on all fronts.
Speaker 2 Because when you're looking at it, when you think about a guy who's looking at a 24-year-old, his chances are...
Speaker 1
You're not a girl dad. No, he likes to be a dad.
And I'm not going to say nothing about it. My daughter cannot come to face an old ass man.
My daughter cannot come with one of my friends. No.
Speaker 1 None of that shit, nigga.
Speaker 1 They ass whooped, get ragtag all around the house because I know that you know your child.
Speaker 1 You know that they could be influenced, and you know how these men who are older may get your child. Like, it's just disgusting on all fronts to me as a father, as a girl dad.
Speaker 1 And that's just what I'm saying. Would money matter to y'all? Like, if
Speaker 1 dude was a billionaire, like, or like Smokey Robinson come home home and he's like, Look, I'm gonna take care of your daughter. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 The truth is, that's usually why somebody in her early 20s would be fucking with somebody who's in his 70s because the nigga got money.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2
That's why it's currency. Her currency is looks and youth.
His currency is fucking money.
Speaker 1
That's true, but that's not all the way through. Oh, child.
Good the fuck. Yo, listen, but now.
Belt, maybe charming, but in today's society, that is happening.
Speaker 1 Yo, it seems like a real seems like a real service, man.
Speaker 1 Right?
Speaker 2 He's the personality.
Speaker 1
He's funny. He's charismatic.
He's funny. Hey, listen.
Dog, some of the men in this room have spoken to the women that were 22, 23, 24 that will willingly tell you, I like older people.
Speaker 1 I don't want to date no young guys.
Speaker 1 Older.
Speaker 1 When I say
Speaker 1
older than you. How old is that? That's your dad.
That is right. And it's not just because
Speaker 1
they're wealthy. I hate all these young niggas.
That's my bag. That's just where I float.
That's how I'm on it. That's what I'm saying.
So, you don't think about it? That's a psychological point.
Speaker 1
I think they're both true. I think what Mel's saying is true.
I think there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1 But you don't think about it from a psychological perspective, that maybe this young lady might have been missing a father or might have been going through something. Or that's what
Speaker 1
you don't think about it from that perspective. Maybe.
Okay, but you, everything's on the table. Maybe.
I'm not disliking what anybody is. There are a lot of them.
Speaker 1 It's a lot.
Speaker 1
It's a lot of them. A lot of them.
A lot, a lot. A lot of ways.
Way more than people. They be established, too.
Fam.
Speaker 1
We was in high school. All head niggas was outside the high school.
This is nothing new. And then if you go
Speaker 1
stop, yo, because niggas is saying that. That ain't funny.
I cursed some nigga out the other day. Oh, you're right.
Talking about it. Actually, can we get it that? Because I don't want to be a kid.
Speaker 1 I was praying on niggas at somebody's life.
Speaker 1
I was a kid. Yeah, he was a teenager.
I was a child. But anyway,
Speaker 1 and yestery, it was way more common. Like, women were getting married at 15.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? Niggas had 30, 15 kids by the time they was 35 years old. Yeah.
So that shit is different. Like, like, I think that to Joe's point.
I damn.
Speaker 1 I just told last week I was outside, told them my grandfather told us his moms passed away in childbirth, but she was 17 and his father was 41. Nigga, my mother's mother passed away in childbirth.
Speaker 1 My mother was 13, my nigga.
Speaker 1
Like, yo, and they had seven, eight, because she passed away having twins. It would have been eight, nine kids.
Niggas had 11 kids, 13 kids, 15 kids back in the day.
Speaker 1 So that shit wasn't uncommon to start having kids when you was 15.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's interesting to me how the age gap conversation is such a thing today.
Speaker 1 Like it's a real thing. It is a thing.
Speaker 1
It's put in the magnifying glass. It's a thing today.
People are watching it. More than it was.
Way more than it was. Yeah, a lot more.
A lot of shit was acceptable.
Speaker 1 It's a thing when they wanted to be a thing with people that they don't necessarily like, yo. That's true, too.
Speaker 1
He looked the other way. That's true.
It looked the other way.
Speaker 1
Still Belcher ain't done nothing to nobody. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't think so. He did a lot to me, Paul.
Speaker 1 Spikey.
Speaker 1 Made 20 years miserable. Miserable
Speaker 1
you talking about. He did the eagles.
He hated the mother. Motherfuckers, bro.
Speaker 1 How rich is...
Speaker 1
Not enough. He's not poor.
He got enough. He's not poor.
Speaker 1
A lot. He got enough.
He's rich enough to where if he says, I want a 27-year-old girl to take care of me until the day I die, he's going to do it.
Speaker 1
He has the money to. Yeah, got it.
Yes.
Speaker 1
The narrative on the streets is that he, I'm not saying this this is true. Let me be very clear.
I don't want to get sued, but I'm just saying. Please don't.
Speaker 1 The street narrative is it's probably an OnlyFans situation or you know a sugar babies. Some kind of sex work situation, and he got turned out.
Speaker 1 Would that make y'all see this situation any differently?
Speaker 1 Would that matter if that's the case? No, it's not more understandable now.
Speaker 1
That makes sense. What the fuck are you talking about, nigga? She did that.
That's probably why she shut that the fuck down. You know, she touched that spot.
We know what it is. This is for money.
Speaker 1 This is for pleasure. When a man gets older, yo, talk about it.
Speaker 1 And that's one of the differences
Speaker 1
between Shannon. Between Shannon, I'm sorry, man.
Between Shannon and
Speaker 1 Bill.
Speaker 1 We looking at Shannon. Yes, there's SA
Speaker 1 here.
Speaker 1 But we have a problem with where you landed on OnlyFans. I'm on OnlyFans every day.
Speaker 1 But he didn't mean that. We are OnlyFans.
Speaker 1
Says to him. I don't believe that Orchestra.
I don't believe that Jim Shaw. I don't believe that second.
Get that shit. I don't believe that shit ever wrong.
You landed on the wrong OnlyFans girl.
Speaker 1 One.
Speaker 1 Two, Bill Belichick
Speaker 1 has 60 years of a football resume. We clown in Shannon because you was just about to hit another stratosphere.
Speaker 1
Like, there's a lot more reasons why we clown in Shannon other than. Okay, I'm reading a little bit about this.
Nah, fuck that. Oh.
Speaker 1 Apparently, the girl, her name is
Speaker 1 Hudson.
Speaker 1 That's her last name, right? She's gonna put out a Jordan Hudson's name. She's gonna put out some type of statement.
Speaker 1 But she was sending screenshots of him fighting with his publisher about how the media
Speaker 1
run has been bad because they're focusing on the wrong things in the book. Yo, now that now that's a conversation that should be had.
And shit, we got your author ass here.
Speaker 1 Y'all authors, y'all go tuck y'all head away for months and months and months, putting your heart and soul in the book to deliver the best product in the world.
Speaker 1 Every single time on them book press runs, they just do the messiest shit in the world and take the little excerpts and devalue your work and now get everybody to just talk about this clickbaity bullshit.
Speaker 1 Clickbaity bullshit might be more prevalent in author press run land than it is in hip-hop. And then does this change your opinion of how she's moving or how she is
Speaker 1
viewed? Because now she's sticking up for him. I'm tired of stuff.
I'm tired of it. This is not what it's about.
The book is about football or whatever.
Speaker 1
Yeah. The book is about my life, my life through football.
Now is she being taken advantage of or is she sticking up for this old man? She's taking care of this. Well, here's where it is.
Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's a good question. I said said she could be the caretaker
Speaker 1 but
Speaker 1 but but here's the other piece of this from the from the author perspective and this is what happens all the time on press runs this is why his the publicists wouldn't be helpful to him because the publicist that was there on that set is the book publicist not his personal publicists the book publisher's job is to promote the book not to promote billbell
Speaker 1 all the things she don't give a fuck what they ask the publicist is not going to intervene in that moment and with celebrity books 99.9 percent of them don't write the book themselves so a lot of times on the press run as if i'm an author and they want if they want to ask me some solitation shit, and I know I get on the New York Times, I may be okay answering it.
Speaker 1
But Bill Belichick is in a different space because he didn't write the book. Nor does he care about being on the New York Times about the book.
Exactly, because I'm rich already. Right.
Speaker 1
So, he's not invested in the book journey. Because when you spend three years writing a book, you want it to sell.
You might be like, fuck, I don't care.
Speaker 1
Yo, if y'all stop selling that book tomorrow, guess what, buddy? I don't know. I don't care.
So then, what was the point of having the book written?
Speaker 1
Because they gave him a check, and in exchange, he has to do a certain number of dates. Or I might just want my personal memoir to be out.
We don't know where his health is. We don't know.
Speaker 1
All of that shit is. Like, yo, I don't necessarily.
It's just interesting. And he probably gave me $5 million.
Speaker 1 Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 To write it. And he ain't read a word of it.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2
But still, the book has to involve a significant, like his story. For somebody who is as notoriously private as him, it's just, it's a little contradictory.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
But also, he was retired at the time that this book was, I'm assuming, being written and planned to come out. So that may have been as part of his retirement plan.
But now he's working again.
Speaker 1 So well, fuck fuck it where are you now i gotta do press for i gotta do press for it so i'll do these 10 major outlets and i want the people that want to know about my life that want to know about football or how football related and intertwined to my life to read this book and i think especially because i've been
Speaker 1 private
Speaker 1 yes yeah you can be private and have that book written i i i understand a private person wanting that like this is how you're gonna get it because i'm so private i don't talk so yeah let me put this together for all of y'all who've been wanting and having all these questions and want to know about my life and everything.
Speaker 1
Here you go. Don't ask me shit.
I'm giving it to you. Leave me alone.
I can go back over here and do it. And don't bring my girlfriend into this.
He might really love this girl deeply.
Speaker 1
Don't bring my girlfriend into this. Now, let me, because all the media is going to do is now slander her name.
Her name is going to be in the public. Like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1
But her being on set, I still think. I agree.
I don't need to say it just get ready to ask.
Speaker 1
I was about to say that. It's noteworthy.
Because most of the people I interview, their girlfriend stay in the green room.
Speaker 1 The only time I see people on the set is if there's a concern about something. I'm not sure what to do with this.
Speaker 1
I'm not sure if I can get him to come shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, I think she thinks he can't handle it by himself. He might can't.
I think that might be right.
Speaker 1 And because he don't do this, right? Yo, you funny man, you find you the right OnlyFans girls. They be caring about you, yo.
Speaker 1
They be caring about your well-being. They ain't just about the fucking Amex anymore.
They care about you. That's a lot of niggas bag, the older niggas.
Speaker 1 What they do is that when they get, when they up, when they get money,
Speaker 1
they pay like they weigh. Exactly, and they want you to take care of them.
They put whatever they're right in, and I want you to take care of me until I go.
Speaker 1 Yeah, Tracy Ellis really ruined his age conference. So forget everything.
Speaker 1 No, Bill ain't want that. Toxic femininity.
Speaker 1 He's fucking
Speaker 1
Bill ain't want that. You know what I mean? Bill ain't want that.
Tracy Ellis really ruined it. We can't even talk about him anyway.
Al Pacino ain't want that. Leonardo, they don't want that shit.
Speaker 1
Okay. I don't think that toxic femininity.
That vet thing you've been like playing with
Speaker 1 toxic femininity. He was like fucking ball.
Speaker 1 That hit.
Speaker 1 Oh.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Bill.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Ashley. Shout out to CJ.
What? Shout out to Jordan. 55 years old.
I ain't sucking nothing.
Speaker 1 There you go.
Speaker 1
Nigga, that country bar. Word.
Nigga, that bitch ball.
Speaker 1 You what?
Speaker 1 This you a crazy figure.
Speaker 2 Do you think that women no longer want to give head after a certain age?
Speaker 1 No, I think women of a certain
Speaker 1
I think older women. I'm about to answer you.
I think older women back in the day don't view head the same way that 20-year-olds view it.
Speaker 2 Right now.
Speaker 1 Right now, what? You talk about everybody?
Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm talking about women right now. So, why do we keep talking about back in the day? I'm talking about right now, 2025, 55-year-old women don't like to give head according to you.
Speaker 2 I didn't say that. That just sounded like he just said it, right?
Speaker 1 Yeah, they should be cracking.
Speaker 1 You say you got a crack.
Speaker 1 This shit got a crack.
Speaker 1 They should be cracking.
Speaker 1 There are women that's still older of an older age. You got to look at heads.
Speaker 1
They get mad if you hold them back in their heads. No, no, no.
Mel. We can go there.
No, it's women out of an older age. not.
Speaker 1
Just mission male. We're not a, I'm not, it's versus.
It's women of an older age that look at head like it's nasty. I think nigga head was nasty to us.
She can't relate, bro.
Speaker 1
Okay, but she's not 55, though. Read her sister.
Is it the generation right after Mel or right before Mel? Or is it like, is it the cohort of the mid-40s forward? Mel. No, I think the nigga.
I think.
Speaker 1 I'm trying to get a sense of who.
Speaker 1
Right before us. I'm 49.
Okay.
Speaker 1
So that's why you can't relate. It's people older than you, he's saying.
Your cohort is still down with the get-down, but it sounds like he's saying the people born in the.
Speaker 2 Like the baby boomers? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Listen, 55-year-olds.
Speaker 1 55-year-olds, even 50-I don't think, I don't think 50-year-olds still want to get like that to face on.
Speaker 1 What do your friends do? Your friends do it? Same journalists. So, yeah, like, are your friends into it?
Speaker 2
Into it. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Emphatically.
Speaker 1
As a journalist, I just have to ask, what are their names? We don't want girls that sex. We don't want girls.
Where do they live? How you know? I don't know. They don't want you either.
Speaker 1
Y'all don't want you at all. No, no, no, no, no.
I just said, no, no, no. All right, so you get.
So, as soon as niggas come in the past, I'm going to chill.
Speaker 1
Yo, right? Oh. I talked to her.
We'll be one. No, I was talking.
Speaker 1
Mel told us her and her girlfriends don't really be discussing sex like that. Exactly.
They discuss books and vines.
Speaker 1 Maybe she seen her.
Speaker 1
I didn't see it. Fuck out of here.
Listen.
Speaker 1 We don't have a fucking group chat called Monstars, but we do. What y'all discuss?
Speaker 2 We talk about sex and books.
Speaker 1
Sex and books. Nobody wants to have 50-year-olds.
You call it.
Speaker 1 Put that in the air.
Speaker 1 Put that head in the dresser.
Speaker 1 Don't tuck that head away, girl. You guys are such a cavity.
Speaker 1 You got a crick in your mouth.
Speaker 1
What's that noise? He's got cavities. He's got cavities, girls.
Stop pushing my head down.
Speaker 1
You can't take that headbush. You ain't got to get that.
You can't grab my hair. Like the young girls do?
Speaker 1
Young girls. Younger.
Not sorry, not young. You got to grab my hair.
You got to do that. With the old granny dress on.
Speaker 1 You can talk that. Two shit away.
Speaker 1
I don't even need to. Put that moo moo away.
I'm gonna get it tomorrow.
Speaker 1
They ain't gotta do this. They're gonna worry about this.
They got leg pressure socks all the way to their knees. Bitch, I don't wanna see this.
Speaker 1 I know this group is not talking about the physical condition of older women. I know this motherfucking group is not talking.
Speaker 2 When is the last time half of y'all saw your dick without moving your fucking bellies out the way?
Speaker 1 Why did you fly your western man? You lucked up. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1
Keep fucking playing with me. Keep fucking playing with me.
You locked up a young fly nigga on the bus. But you know what the old niggas do? What do the old niggas do?
Speaker 1 They pay the lady. Exactly.
Speaker 2 Is that what they do?
Speaker 1
They pay. And that's the point we make.
Really? Bill Bella.
Speaker 2 Are they the same motherfuckers that are asking to go 50-50 and what women bring to the table? Those are the motherfuckers that are going to be the money.
Speaker 1 No, not the niggas with money.
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 Bill Belichick ain't gotta move for sure.
Speaker 2 Bill Belichick's fucking money is not every man's money, not even fucking close to it.
Speaker 1
The majority of the majority stop trying to trigger Mel. Exactly.
What are you talking about? Older women, flexible, nigga. Watch your fucking mouth.
I didn't say nothing. They do Pilates and shit.
Speaker 1 Hey, take that. You take that head.
Speaker 1 Ayo, A.O., do that.
Speaker 1 Take that head and shut something up.
Speaker 1
The older ladies, they said they introduced her. It's head time.
They fuck it up.
Speaker 1 They want to introduce time.
Speaker 1
You want some sex? They ask stupid questions like that. No, you want some sex.
Get to it.
Speaker 1 Yo, y'all tripping, man. There's a lot of women in their 40s and 50s.
Speaker 1 High sexual.
Speaker 1 Ayo, Mars. When you open the door,
Speaker 1 when you want to surprise you, then they want to trust her.
Speaker 2 They're about to accuse you of the business.
Speaker 1 You went out of cake. No, you're Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 They're about to accuse you of
Speaker 1 marriage to a 46-year-old woman.
Speaker 1
She treats like a kid. Everybody, ISO on Mark.
Let Mark and Mel do this
Speaker 1
two tag team shit they do. And then let's hear from people that oppose them.
I'm just saying that women in their 40s and 50s are still very vibrant and sexually active. A thousand percent.
Speaker 1 And as somebody married to someone in their 40s, you're married, so we can't respond to you. We can't respond to that.
Speaker 1
I'm very happy with every point in my sex life. Yeah, nigga, what you're doing.
But I got a lot of homies that feel the same way.
Speaker 1
And I also know homies that's married to young girls that just lay there. That's what I'm saying.
I think it's just, I think a lot of it is who you're talking about.
Speaker 2 And so let me ask you guys something.
Speaker 1 So let me ask you all something.
Speaker 1 Since you feel this way and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1 you gotta have a pillow, girl.
Speaker 1 Can you fix this?
Speaker 1 She wants the curse to be all the dead ass. She face her rat.
Speaker 1
All type of shit. She talking about some heads.
Injuries in the gym, nigga. Injuries in the gym, gym, okay?
Speaker 2 And y'all niggas can barely get off the fucking couch. This is why I keep this behind me for my lumbar spine.
Speaker 2 So let me ask y'all this: since you feel that way about 50-something-year-old head, you guys gonna trade in your current girls right now for newer models when they get to that age?
Speaker 1 It's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 It's a very fucking interesting question. So answer it, y'all.
Speaker 1
What I said. You, you, 20 years right now.
So that happens. Yeah, I got a long time.
My girl, 32. My girl 32.
Speaker 1 What the fuck is we talking about?
Speaker 1 We already got this. Y'all niggas talking about marriage.
Speaker 1 I'm married. You're talking about me girls.
Speaker 1 So, I asked you.
Speaker 1 Are y'all going to be training in your girls with younger models when they get to that?
Speaker 1 I know I am to do that because I got you.
Speaker 1 I'm never trading my girl.
Speaker 1 Never.
Speaker 1 I'm marrying that mouth.
Speaker 1 Fuck that mouth is getting married, nigga.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 Are you crazy? I saw that trap coming five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 That just fell right into it. Hey, you can put that 50-year-old in it.
Speaker 1
You can take that shit and fluff that down the toilet. Take it to the bank.
Are you crazy?
Speaker 1 Lock it up?
Speaker 1 Why Mel gets so mad? I'm not getting mad.
Speaker 1
I'm not mad at all. I'm not mad at all.
I did not even have a mouth.
Speaker 1 You can just take your mouth off.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I had a headache.
Speaker 1 Better run.
Speaker 1
Get that mob out of here, girl. Get that Andy.
Get that Harriet Tummy Mobile, girl.
Speaker 1 Fuck you out of here. She got the Harriet Tummy.
Speaker 1
Not you, per se. But get that, girl.
Yeah, we know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 You can't even keep the one you had, girl.
Speaker 1 Got you.
Speaker 1 You couldn't keep the one you had, girl. You and the camera.
Speaker 1 You in the camera.
Speaker 1 Nigga, got them out of there, girl.
Speaker 1 They don't do the tricks. Y'all not licking them.
Speaker 1 What do you know?
Speaker 2 What do you know, Mr. Married Man, who's been married for like, what, 17 years,
Speaker 2 who has not had any sexual experience with anybody else but his wife?
Speaker 1 What do you know?
Speaker 1 What do you know?
Speaker 1
God is. As your attorney, answer that, though.
God,
Speaker 1 my client,
Speaker 1 there's a lot of points that do you know.
Speaker 1 You like Curry Dawn.
Speaker 1 My wife, my wife.
Speaker 1
One mic, y'all. One mic.
My wife aged fine as wine. Nigga, she knows the dude.
Speaker 1
We have fun. And, you know, my wife looks good.
She's amazing. and she knows to do
Speaker 1
I enjoy, I enjoy my sex. I'm not talking about me, and my wife is not in her 50s.
Okay, I know that. I know late 30s, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
We not, so we not, we don't, we don't speak, they don't speak the same language. But if she get there, I'm gonna work with her.
If
Speaker 1 when when, when she gets there, I'm gonna work with her. Why do you think that her
Speaker 1 abilities are gonna change her?
Speaker 1 You was doing good right to the end.
Speaker 1
Mel is trying to talk. Stop.
I'm just trying to find out what's going on. Y'all do that enough up here.
Speaker 1 Let's make space for Mel. Why do you think?
Speaker 1 her good space? Why
Speaker 1 take space? What? Space is.
Speaker 2 That's important. Why do you think that her abilities are going to change if she's
Speaker 1 not going to change at all?
Speaker 1 I can't speak to that. Listen,
Speaker 1 I'm just rolling with the time, sis. But I can speak about.
Speaker 1 I went in the type
Speaker 1 gifts.
Speaker 1 And y'all didn't look like y'all was doing too well in the gifts category.
Speaker 1 Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 Let's tell you something.
Speaker 1 She was working in a nursing home before.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 they are getting him coughing.
Speaker 1 They are getting them coughing in the nursing home.
Speaker 1 That's how you call it crap. They have the buttons.
Speaker 1 The dorm.
Speaker 1 And then you have to steal. That was all.
Speaker 1 Look.
Speaker 1 That's why I have looked. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Chlamydia is really high in nursing homes. It is.
Speaker 1 A lot of sex happens in nursing homes. And when I talk, and the old men in there,
Speaker 1 man, that doesn't mean it's good. That's sex.
Speaker 1 My nigga, that's Blair, the same bitch fucking fucking all.
Speaker 1 You say it's just one.
Speaker 1 It's just, it's just.
Speaker 1 Blanching is
Speaker 1
everybody like, fuck you talking about. She don't remember.
She got all times.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Listen, though, that's not what's happening.
There's a lot of healthy, good sex happening over 50, at over 60, at over 70. Just want y'all to know.
You're right. You're right.
Speaker 1
Not from personal experience, but from what the people in the nursery home told me. You got to just see.
Like, if you know a homegirl. Let me just say, if you know it's good.
Speaker 1 Let me look at this long. moment,
Speaker 1 if you know a homegirl close to 50,
Speaker 1
right? I'm a homegirl close to 50. And I know we're telling jokes, but 50 is not old.
Nah, that's old. It's not.
Now that we're there,
Speaker 1
it was only old. Yo, when we was 30, 50, 50.
It was only old in regards to, like, head.
Speaker 1
Yeah, if you know a homegirl. Outside of that.
Close to 52.
Speaker 1 And they can't really...
Speaker 1
They moving around, bouncing around, nigga. Shit feel like, what's that shit? Sky zone, nigga.
Just,
Speaker 1
there's something missing in the department, nigga. And niggas at certain ages, we like the face off.
Something missing, gang.
Speaker 1 They can't really keep it.
Speaker 1
You 50, come over with some books. Yeah, come over with a mu moo, with your compression socks.
Uber some food. Uber me some food.
Put some lines around your neck. Yeah, what else you can do?
Speaker 1
What they do? Step on my back, stand on my back at 50. You could do that.
Do the little cup shit in the back, the cup. Yeah, acupuncture.
Oh, you could do the acupuncture against the cutter.
Speaker 1
You can do my nails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, shit like that. Yeah.
Ooh, I can't wait for y'all to tell me. Like, comfort shit.
Like, manicure together. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Watch this young bitch suck my.
Speaker 1 You could look. You could look.
Speaker 1 Right?
Speaker 1
Ooh, I can't wait to. When you're 50, we're going to play this tape back.
Right. Do you think when this conversation is not about us being 50? Yeah.
Speaker 1
No, I'm just saying your perspective is going to change on. I think you'll be like, I want no 60-year-old hair to say that.
This is not my perspective now. I'm just triggering mail.
Oh, that's sound.
Speaker 1
Okay. I don't believe none of this.
I'm just.
Speaker 1 I don't subscribe to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
I'm just going to keep going. So she's going to go.
She hits the gasket,
Speaker 1
cries, blows, gives herself away. I'm not.
I'm not. Okay, so then take that map.
All right, no, I'm going to come on. Stop it.
Come on.
Speaker 1 Stop. You're wrong.
Speaker 1 Leave it alone.
Speaker 2 Anywho's.
Speaker 1
have worked. You think you fire on the cunalingist tip? Who me? Yeah.
Come on. I'm asking.
Speaker 1 I don't talk about personal business.
Speaker 1 What's on my personal business?
Speaker 1 I don't talk about personal business. It's just a question.
Speaker 1 I am good
Speaker 1 with what I do. I don't talk about personal business, gang.
Speaker 1 But.
Speaker 1 Sniper position, like out.
Speaker 1 Laying down. Yeah, you can't do sniper.
Speaker 1
How you doing, nigga? How you doing, nigga? Huh? Yo. Shit on my face, type nigga.
You have to be suffocated, you bird-ass nigga. Watch your fucking mouth, you freak boy.
Speaker 1 He's probably gonna do the sniper.
Speaker 1 That nigga be high as hell on the sniper. That nigga be.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, isn't you? Anyway.
Speaker 1 What up, what up, what up, what up? What else we got?
Speaker 1 Can you laugh?
Speaker 1
Joe, that is an interesting question. Can we just poll the one real quick? Please.
I'd love that. Because we talk about women and how well they perform.
But how well do y'all perform?
Speaker 1 How would you assess yourselves? I was going to to answer Mel when she was like,
Speaker 1 what makes you think women can't get busy at 55?
Speaker 1 Men can't get busy at 55.
Speaker 1
It's a decline, my nigga, for everybody involved. And that's okay.
Even the cunning lincolns?
Speaker 1 I don't think. That time?
Speaker 1
Yo, wait. He just sit back.
Wait, what?
Speaker 1 He needs to be out right now.
Speaker 1 This shit got fucked on
Speaker 1
You the slip and slide of that shit. Slip and slide, get loose.
More punch to the bowl of juice, nigga. Fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 If your tongue fell off,
Speaker 1 we gotta have a ceremony in Newark.
Speaker 1 We gotta have horses and carriages down the street, nigga.
Speaker 1 If your tongue fell off, oh shit. God damn, man.
Speaker 1
Damn. Yo, no, I remember.
All right, so it's just just saying that 55 niggas fall off.
Speaker 1 Before 50. Y'all read an article the other day that said, yo, niggas before 40 now.
Speaker 1
Like a huge, a nice percentage of men before 40 years old are experiencing E-D. E.
Yeah. Before 40.
Wow. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1
Yeah, Slim Thug the other day was talking. Oh, man.
He's one of my favorite people to listen to now.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Slim Thug. Terrence Howard.
Speaker 1 Let me just catch y'all up because I know y'all missed it.
Speaker 1 Slim Thug saw Meg the Stallion kept performing some of his songs. So he said, I think she likes me.
Speaker 1 Meg at Rollin Loud said, I don't.
Speaker 1 I just like your songs.
Speaker 1 Slim Thug in his response video started saying.
Speaker 1 Started saying, nah, on second thought, that's too much for me. Cause Meg is a little 20-something, however old she is.
Speaker 1 And he said, I can't pop a Viagra every day at my age.
Speaker 1 So then I was taking the bat.
Speaker 1 I said, nigga, but this might be to your point. I'm like, nigga, you need a Viagra every day? Like, you ain't never gonna hit them with
Speaker 1 that natty?
Speaker 1
Oh, natty. Oh, that's your rat.
No point. Are Are you gonna try to just climb a mountain on the natty tip? But
Speaker 1
whatever. I just thought it was funny.
Some girls you could look at, and it just looked like too much of a headache. A long death.
It just looked like a lot.
Speaker 1 There's a lot going on. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Don't come over here with all that hidden-hop hop dancing around shit, bitch.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no.
Speaker 1
Holy shit. All right.
Great topic, you guys.
Speaker 1 That was a great topic.
Speaker 1 You sure know how to come alive in here.
Speaker 1 That's it.
Speaker 1 I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 What are you trying to tell y'all with the streets be saying about that 50-year-old head? Yo, dude.
Speaker 1 You always stretch out like that, boy.
Speaker 1
That's your. I was talking to Ice about that.
That's your go-to position, though. He said he pays.
If he's paying for it,
Speaker 1 why you going to pay and work?
Speaker 1 You don't believe you're putting to work at a certain age anymore?
Speaker 1 Nah, I don't think like that. You put work in, huh? You try your best?
Speaker 1
Hey, honey. He did a little shimmy in the house, in the rooms.
It's your freak, boy.
Speaker 1 What else else needs our attention? Boy, that was funny. That was a lot of fun, you guys.
Speaker 1 Y'all are nuts.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1
I don't know what we missed. I'll take it upon myself.
I just want to say before we end that recently at the Millennium Tour,
Speaker 1 B2K reunited again. So I want to hit the round of applause real quick.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Talk about getting the most out of Stockholm Syndrome.
Speaker 1 I only want to bring this up because Amarion,
Speaker 1 no more than three months ago, was on the breakfast club saying,
Speaker 1
I do not speak to anybody in B2K. I do not have a relationship with anybody in B2K.
And I would like to keep it that way. No love lost.
He said that.
Speaker 1
Now, I was at the last Millennium Tour, and B2K was there. And I think they've done this breakup public fight thing.
They reunited. But at least nine times.
At this point, they like the fucking
Speaker 1 bartenders that throw retirement parties.
Speaker 1 I'm leaving the game.
Speaker 1 Guess when the game come back.
Speaker 1 These niggas done came back about nine fucking times. Guess when they come back.
Speaker 1 When they break up with the nigga.
Speaker 1
There you go. That's the realest shit right there.
What the fuck is you talking about? But I guess where I'm confused is Amarion was already on this tour.
Speaker 1
It's not like he needed the reunion to be on tour. He was on tour.
So, what he just had, a change of heart? What's some other niggas' names? Didn't he? Razz B.
Speaker 1 Didn't do some shit on the tour where he took the other food off. Lil Fizz.
Speaker 1
Was it? Didn't that happen on the last tour? Yes. Amarion.
He kept my man from being on the tour because he was fucking with his baby moms and shit like that. Yeah, he was with April for a minute.
Speaker 1
It was a lot going on. I'm just saying.
Amarion.
Speaker 1 My bad.
Speaker 1 Sorry, sir. My bad.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 The fuck are you talking about, dude? They've been through so much. They seem like the most dysfunctional,
Speaker 1 not the most. They seem like one of those dysfunctional people where they also have a lot of trauma together and a lot of, and they grew up together.
Speaker 1 And I think in the business, and I think they just can't leave each other alone.
Speaker 1
And the other ones, a lot of them can't get no money outside of B2K. They can't get no money.
I get why Fizz and Rasby and Jay Boog would want to reunite. But when I saw Marion on his last
Speaker 1
press run, he would say, I'm never coming in birth. Like Joe said, I'm never getting with these people again.
80-20.
Speaker 1 80-20 is crazy.
Speaker 1 But probably you would need to get him back in the building.
Speaker 1 Yeah. What, nigga?
Speaker 1 Please.
Speaker 1
I don't know if I could get over somebody as close with what Raz did. I mean, not what Raz, what Fizz did.
I'm good. I couldn't get over that shit.
I'm good, nigga.
Speaker 1 Them niggas can get over it if the bills needed to get paid.
Speaker 1 We've seen worse where niggas have been completely fucked, pause, by people in the industry and then run right back on tour with them because the bills have to get paid. And maybe O'Mari Hand isn't.
Speaker 1 I thought Omar was up enough on his own tour to not have to do that.
Speaker 1 But you're right. You're right.
Speaker 1
All right. Well, good luck.
Good luck to all parties involved. Let me mind my black ass business.
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
That's it.
Speaker 1 Also, before we go, they did that 100-day rating thing on Trump. Says he has the lowest 100-day approval score in the history of all how many presidents there's been.
Speaker 1 Somebody knows shocking anybody? No, no. What a, what? Wow.
Speaker 1
Wowzers. Would have never guessed that.
What a thunk.
Speaker 1 Saquon one of them. How about him?
Speaker 1 Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 Four.
Speaker 1 I love Saquon, so I ain't going to drag him through the mud on this one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And I love Nelly.
Speaker 1 So I ain't going to drag. Yo, at some point, niggas got to get used to people just having different views and opinions.
Speaker 1
To each his own has to be a thing. We don't have to agree with everybody.
I I wouldn't go golfing with the niggas, but I'm about to slam Saquon for it.
Speaker 1 And y'all not about to do it neither when he rushed for 2,500 yards next year. Well, that's why I'm not talking too much shit, because I'm going to be on his dick in about six months.
Speaker 1 Also, I want to double down.
Speaker 1 Right. Hey, big say.
Speaker 1 Big Say. Kwani.
Speaker 1
Oh, my God, bro. Fuck out of here.
What? What? Nigga, I'm about to prove a point that we made earlier, nigga. That's where I got the phone wire.
Speaker 1 the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1
Also, while we're on this, I want to double down. I think the Giants had an amazing draft.
The Giants had an amazing day two.
Speaker 1 It's your all-in-picks.
Speaker 1 I know
Speaker 1 Cam Skeetabo, the running back, the tough, tough guy, like him.
Speaker 1 I like the other O-line dude that's. New Yorkish.
Speaker 1 Huh? Sorry. He New Yorkish.
Speaker 1
Yep. He just has an identity now.
That's it. He looks like one of them Staten Island, New York niggas.
Yo, yo, J-O, I'm on a podcast. Can you tell these niggas? He's called his son.
No, J-O, not J-R.
Speaker 1 J-O, can you tell these niggas what my nickname was when I was younger, please?
Speaker 1
It was two of them. No, it was TJ and his Lionheart.
Thank you. We got it.
Thanks, J-O. This nigga, somebody didn't call me Lionheart when I was younger.
You text J-O like. No, I did.
Speaker 1
I should have called him. We don't believe you.
Besides,
Speaker 1 that nigga will fight anybody.
Speaker 1
He's been up here for a few years. Ain't bust a grape in a fruit fight.
Nah, that nigga fucked up. He's been up here for a while.
Niggas have pressed him, threatened him, swung on him.
Speaker 1
He ain't do nothing. Yo, yo, listen.
I ain't gonna hold you. That nigga been through a whole lot more than a little bit.
Back in the day.
Speaker 1
J-O-K. Back in the day.
J-L, thank you. I'm gonna get this nigga out of the way.
A long time ago.
Speaker 1
Like the war story, you saying. Watch your fucking mouth when you talk on me, nigga.
My name is. Yeah, we all scrapped when we was 13, nigga.
Not a liar, heart.
Speaker 1 It's a funny name. You said you're gonna ask Mark, what was his street nickname? Mark, what was your street name growing up? I had a couple.
Speaker 1 Miz and alien.
Speaker 1 What? Yeah, Miz was the most common one.
Speaker 2 Miz?
Speaker 1 Miz. M-I-Z? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1
in urban America, there came a moment where, you know, you started putting like Ms. Art.
It's the Miz Art. So people call it Riz, like that.
And so it just became, Mark became Miz.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
Why were you the alien? Yeah. Because I had a big-ass head.
Oh.
Speaker 1
I had a big-ass ass head. I looked like it was alien nation in the middle.
If that's the case, then Ice is the mega alien.
Speaker 1 That nigga's
Speaker 1 the mother alien.
Speaker 1 Stop!
Speaker 1 Big daddy alien.
Speaker 1 If your head is big.
Speaker 1 That nigga, that's the funny ball.
Speaker 1 That nigga was magnificent. The cruise shit.
Speaker 1 The light that brought niggas up. The bean.
Speaker 1 What was that shit? Brown head. That nigga had.
Speaker 1
Freeze Freeze head. That's Independence Day.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Oh, my lord. Delight, the light.
Speaker 1 I hate free.
Speaker 1 Are y'all going to go to
Speaker 1 your daughter's school for Career Day?
Speaker 1 I'll go to wherever they have.
Speaker 1 I hate that shit.
Speaker 1 I haven't.
Speaker 1
Your girl dads are so sassy. Why y'all can't just answer that? No, yes.
I just say yes. If they was to have that, I would go.
No, it's not. That's not my thing, bro.
Career Day?
Speaker 1 It's not really my thing. Nigga, I'll be at fucking pancakes with Dana.
Speaker 1
That's your thing. Pancakes with the bad thing.
I'm saying
Speaker 1
if your daughter asked you to go. Yes.
1,000%.
Speaker 1 Maybe.
Speaker 1 I would. I love when he gives these terrible answers and then whispers it.
Speaker 1 Because
Speaker 1
you're going to show up. I'm not really going to do that.
Every time I think I know what he'll say to some shit, he's trying to throw like a curl. It's not my dad.
It's a career that you would do.
Speaker 1 Because
Speaker 1 you like to talk to youth and inspired youth, and you actually have like a couple careers you could lay out. I think that shit would be good.
Speaker 1
You went to Gilly Career Day at at the robber tree up there. I didn't go to Gilly's Career Day.
What the fuck type of shit is that? You went to InvestFest, nigga. Go to Career Day.
Speaker 1 I didn't go to Infest. InvestFest is Career Day.
Speaker 1 Yo, it's a dope career day.
Speaker 1
I've never spoken at InvestFest. Can you say spoken? Well, I know.
You didn't speak there.
Speaker 1 Gotcha.
Speaker 1 He be walking into it. You didn't do no speaking there.
Speaker 1 We know that part. They had speakers.
Speaker 1
He bought the gold package. He was there as a customer.
Yeah, yeah, he was there as a customer. Yeah, as a customer.
Custy.
Speaker 1
Oh, shit. Yo, yo, yo.
Flip it up.
Speaker 1 You know how you got to do the work to get a Grammy? He was there just making the rounds, showing his face.
Speaker 1 Disrespect. Would you do Griday? I would if my daughter asked me, yeah.
Speaker 1 My kid would have to really ask hard. I hate it's the parents I hate.
Speaker 1 Why? So my answer was terrible, but your answer is they would have to really ask hard. Well, you didn't specify as to why they're.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they got to ask him hard. The kids?
Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't think he meant the kids. He said,
Speaker 1 My kid really got to ask him.
Speaker 1 I thought he meant the school. The school, yeah.
Speaker 1 If my kid asked me yes,
Speaker 1 the kid, yes, but I'm saying they, but it would, it would have.
Speaker 1 My point is, I would do it for my kid, but I would hate to do it because the school, like, there comes a moment, and all y'all, I'm sure, have been to this, where the parents figure out what you do, and then they just get real joke.
Speaker 1
Like, they just start wanting to ask for shit, want all this shit. I hate talking to the parents.
They want favors, they want hookups.
Speaker 1
And that's why I don't like the career day because it's the parents. The kids are fine.
That's why I don't really do our kids' school no more.
Speaker 1
I went to my little brothers, something they was doing at their school and went up there and spoke. Well, I was supposed to speak, but I was famous.
So I just had to walk in there. It was like, ah,
Speaker 1
ah, ah. And all the two kids.
When you came down, if you, this is, this is your oldest kid.
Speaker 1 You say you want to see your brother shit, my little.
Speaker 1 Let's let the joke ride.
Speaker 1
I said, my little brothers. And this was a few years ago.
I wouldn't say maybe four or five years ago, but they was real appreciative. I've done a bunch of stuff.
Up there in the Bronx. Yeah.
Speaker 1
It's not so bad, though. She could do it.
Yeah, man. What career would you talk about? Would you do the media career or would you do the
Speaker 2 real estate?
Speaker 1 Now we're getting to the good questions now. Now we're getting to the real estate.
Speaker 1 Don't bail them out. If I did it? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Real estate and construction. Real estate.
Speaker 1 Separate, separate.
Speaker 1 Would you wear that-ish merch?
Speaker 1
I don't know. I doubt it.
You would be a construction worker. When you talk about real estate on other podcasts, are you talking real estate or is it podcasting?
Speaker 1 It's both.
Speaker 1 That was the end.
Speaker 1 I answered you.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I'm listening.
Speaker 1 I now have nothing.
Speaker 1 You got some more shit to say. No, I don't.
Speaker 1 You think you got the gun just waiting for me? Yeah, I told him.
Speaker 1 I told him.
Speaker 1 I'm on peace with him. I got no.
Speaker 1 All right. We got sleepers.
Speaker 1 Some fucking real estate, nigga. Smack the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 Real estate.
Speaker 1 When you did that podcast, though. Ain't you sick of him with that shit?
Speaker 1 That shit is like a scam at this point. Nigga, it's a scam.
Speaker 1 A podcaster.
Speaker 1
You've been after real estate. All right, for you, I'm not.
I don't think I'm not out there. You're out the game.
I'm not, though. You are.
Okay.
Speaker 1
You ain't did nothing. That's what you think.
I'm telling you. No, you're not telling me.
You're a podcaster.
Speaker 1 You're a rapper. Like, tell them.
Speaker 1 I am. All right.
Speaker 1
That nigga is immature. Bro, they look like they like kids.
They. It's me.
It's y'all, bro. I can't help you.
No.
Speaker 1 Real estate shit. Nigga.
Speaker 1 They're going to turn the laptop.
Speaker 1 Ain't no nothing new went up, nigga. You broadcasting now.
Speaker 1
What the fuck you talking about? Nigga, credit score in the bottom now. Who bottom? You.
You can't get the loan, the refi taking forever. Nigga, meet up, nigga.
Speaker 1
You can't even get the refi popping. You a podcaster, nigga.
I seen you on nine podcasts yesterday. Shut up.
No, you didn't. Real estate.
But it's okay.
Speaker 1 C's went down. Yeah, nigga.
Speaker 1
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
That's flawed on that podcast that you doing, yo. I had a couple of questions, but but that's fly.
Speaker 1 Like, when you did it, didn't Mandy and them move to, like, Atlanta? So that means you took a flight.
Speaker 1
I was like, oh, this nigga isn't moving. You ain't put niggas on.
I would have flew out there. Oh, my God.
Kind of niggas live out there. I would have came out there and flew with some content.
Speaker 1
They can introduce you. What are you talking about, fans? You had to fly out there to go in the pod, right? No.
Oh, they came to you.
Speaker 1 They came to you.
Speaker 1
That's a trick. Yeah.
Oh, you trying to be funny? Put your little stubby hands back. Fuck out of here.
All right, man. Let me see.
Speaker 1 I am going with, I would have played that Dustin Conrad record, but I'm going to go a different vibe today just because the weather is breaking.
Speaker 1
Feeling good, feeling great. I'm with the best crew in the fucking universe.
Who the fuck are they doing? Who the fuck they think they're dealing with? Full crew. Fully.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 I restore whiz kid.
Speaker 1 This record is called.
Speaker 1 Give me that.
Speaker 1 Give me that love, give me peace of mind. Or should they come in with your design?
Speaker 1 Baby, now one marriage with the run. So make you no call waste time.
Speaker 1 No friends.
Speaker 1 Give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I know go let go.
Speaker 1 Gimme, make a cure my sample. Feelings got me hitting on the freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Make you give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I don't go let go.
Speaker 1 Make you give me make a game
Speaker 1 call. Feelings got me hitting on the freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Fi, Lord, Diallo.
Speaker 1 If I give you my love, oh,
Speaker 1 make you no disappointo.
Speaker 1 Dia, Lord, di yellow.
Speaker 1 If I give you my love, oh,
Speaker 1 make you not disappointed.
Speaker 1 Me, I got you for mind, though.
Speaker 1
Got them, I rappered, got them. Getting with your body, make me feel excited.
Loving you, they put me on a different mindset. Girl, not only you, they make me stick to one girl.
Speaker 1 Got them, then I need you again, got them. Bitch, I perfect, no, they mind that.
Speaker 1 Keep it private, for bombal.
Speaker 1 If you need me, baby, I'll be right there.
Speaker 1 Bumbang show, you need me, me, you, me, me, you. Do me many things, do they give me you, give me you.
Speaker 1 I'm ready, you get ready too. Give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I don't go let go.
Speaker 1 Gimme, make a give my zamco. Billies got me hitting on a freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Make you give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I don't go let go.
Speaker 1 Make you give me makeup, you're my zamco. Billies got me hitting on a freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Diallo, dear love.
Speaker 1 if I give you my love,
Speaker 1 make you know this I point though.
Speaker 1 Me, I got you for my dog.
Speaker 1 Dear Lord,
Speaker 1 if I give you my love,
Speaker 1 make you know this I point though.
Speaker 1 Me, I got you for mind though.
Speaker 1 So many people wanna lick my skew. So, baby, tune me test over your tools.
Speaker 1 And if I undo your two by two, you can scream if you're losing your food.
Speaker 1 So many reasons, I'm retaining the stars. Oh Oh my god, yeah, the reason I do what I do.
Speaker 1 Say, baby, make you give me your love.
Speaker 1 Make you give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I don't go let go.
Speaker 1 Give me, make a give my zako. Feelings got me hitting on every freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Make you give me that love.
Speaker 1 If you give me me, I don't go let go.
Speaker 1 Make you give me, make a give my zako. Feelings got me hitting on the freaky dance floor.
Speaker 1 Diallo, dear love.
Speaker 1 If I give you my love,
Speaker 1 make you no disappointment.
Speaker 1 Me, I got you for mind, though.
Speaker 1 Diallo, the yellow.
Speaker 1 If I give you my love,
Speaker 1 make you no disappointo.
Speaker 1 Me a cat, you for mind.
Speaker 1 Brand new music, Ira Star Whiskey.
Speaker 1 That record is called Give Me That available in your phones and on DS feeds right this very second. The vibe.
Speaker 1 All right, man, it's 80 degrees,
Speaker 1 which I always call Max B degrees.
Speaker 1 Don't put it down for you.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
Brand new old music, new old music, old, old, old music. This is Max B.
Blow Me a Dub remix.
Speaker 1 Blow Me a Dove Rix.
Speaker 1 I got a 50th, some 50th, the sourling in my sourling in my clothes.
Speaker 1 I was riding in the bucket, he was riding in the drop-top road.
Speaker 1 Still love the women there, but he ain't got the power. Salad poppin' on the stove, poppin' on the stoves
Speaker 1 in the blow in the dust,
Speaker 1 dub,
Speaker 1
contemplating about my trip to the Bahamas as I spent through my condo in my Cava Climb pajamas. Like my feet to split, but it may be moms.
Glowin' on some shit. Probably bigger than my baby arms.
Speaker 1
Pitched the lady off, so she come to me for comfort. Three babe moms, now she come to me for cum squirt.
Gun work, got it if the nigga budge. Pop it at the nigga mug, watch the figure ride.
Speaker 1 I'm tryna see this nigga die.
Speaker 1 Ride, I ain't giving no mercy.
Speaker 1 Baby needs shoes, and my niggas is thirsty.
Speaker 1 Lady want a nigga back in, fucking fat bitch. I keep the extra MAC 10.
Speaker 1
You can find me in the trap on the AM. Pumpers in the store, right next to the Jamaican coat.
I'ma shake him, break him, take him to the basket.
Speaker 1 Then mama pick the shoe while they lay you in the casket.
Speaker 1 I got a 50, it's a private
Speaker 1 link in my soy in my clothes.
Speaker 1 I was riding in the bucket, he was riding in the drop top boy.
Speaker 1 Still love the whip and that we ain't got the poppers I'll poppin' on the stove
Speaker 1 And I'm blowing the dust
Speaker 1 when I thought I might have seen enough Mama in the room screaming, beat me up My brothers used to beat me up, meet me up chop with a helipop Nigga, you can climb, I'ma meet you in my helicopter
Speaker 1
10. Seen him in the summer, real wavy in the drive-through.
You can hide, nigga, I'ma find you. Must stop behind you.
Don't the niggas style, come close to the wave, man.
Speaker 1
Nigga, I'm a main man, caveman. Had to do my A and the statement.
That's an old chapter in my life, like the great dance pace and back and forth. Thinking bout, will he ever do the time?
Speaker 1
Can he go to jail if he didn't really do the crime? Pop a in the staircase, throwin' lines. Got his energy all up, nigga.
We we ball up like that. Ow.
Speaker 1 I got a 50th sympathy at the sour thing in my soul.
Speaker 1 I was riding in the bucket, he was riding in the drop-top roads.
Speaker 1 I still love the whipping that we didn't got the powder salad poppin' on the stoves. Poppin' on the stoves.
Speaker 1 In the blowin' the dub,
Speaker 1 dub, baby, baby.
Speaker 1 They tryna push a nigga out of the way.
Speaker 1 They tryna blackball the nigga, tryna take a nigga out of the game.
Speaker 1 But since I left, they ain't rappin' the same.
Speaker 1 Finished name.
Speaker 1 Fuck man with Baker Bell, you might not be rappin' again.
Speaker 1
Baby, baby. No, baby.
No money, set my cake up.
Speaker 1 Only got 23 days in the wake up. Pull the 40 out and get the smear in your makeup.
Speaker 1 Tear your face up, bully shoot from the waist up.
Speaker 1
Fuck, kill my brother, he was 17. Put it in his head, the voices they would never leave.
He watching over, he be telling me, Max, take your time, don't rush his bitches hit me with the pussy.
Speaker 1 I'ma fuck it.
Speaker 1 I got a 50, it's a rippin' and salad thing in my soul.
Speaker 1 I was ridin' in the bucket, he was rising in the drop shop, bro.
Speaker 1 I still love the whipping and we're in. Got the poppin' salad poppin' on the stove.
Speaker 1 And the blow in the dub.
Speaker 1
Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. And again, that's new old, old, old music.
That's Max B, Blow Me a Dub Remix, Freeda Boss Dawn.
Speaker 1
I too am playing old, old music. It was the 30-day anniversary of ICE's favorite album, The Infamous, the other day.
So I am playing... Huh? What I said? You said 30-day.
Speaker 1 30-year-old. bad.
Speaker 1 Feels like 30 days old. I'm playing right back at you.
Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck about my presence.
Speaker 1
I'm lost in the blocks of hate, can't wait for the next crab nigga to step and meet fate. I'm lethal when I see you.
There is no sequel. 24-7, MAC-11 is my people.
Speaker 1 So why you wanna end your little life like this? Cause now you bump heads with kids that's lifeless.
Speaker 1 I live by the day only if I survive the last night Damn right, I ain't trying to fight We can settle this like some grown men on the concrete floor My slugs will put a stop to your hardcore ways of action I'll grab the gap then Ain't no turning back when I start blasting Pick up the handle and insane potion Cock the shit back in the calm like motion No signs of anger or fear cause you the one in danger Never share your plans with a stranger World is more fucking top now
Speaker 1
I got you You got the heart to get busy without your crew. Let's get it on, nigga, to what we gotta do.
You bucking me, I'm walking right back at you.
Speaker 1 I'm fucking drop on you, kid. Now I got you.
Speaker 1
You got the heart to get busy without your crew. Let's get it on, nigga, do what we gotta do.
You fucking me, I'm walking right back at you.
Speaker 1 Check it out, check it out, check it out now.
Speaker 1 Check it out, check it out, check it out now. Check it out, check it out, check it out now.
Speaker 1
Fuck where you at, kid. That's where you from.
Cause where I'm from, niggas pack nothing but the big guns. Around my way, niggas don't got more for out of towners.
Speaker 1
Come through front and they get stuck with the three-pounder. The loud sounder, airbringer.
And I'ma point the finger. For all you wanna be gun slingers.
Speaker 1
You gotta feel ice real, but are you really real? Step to the hill and I'ma test your gun skills. Cause real niggas don't try to profile.
You just the chunk who needs to get drunk to fuck wow.
Speaker 1
Let's swing that bullshit this way. And I'ma make your visit to to the bridge.
A motherfucking shortstay. Queens Bridge, that's where I'm from.
The blazing stars are born and 40 rappers. Get done.
Speaker 1 Six blocks, and you might not make it through. What you gonna do when my whole crew is blazing at you? We're maxing textilin to get your tone crushed.
Speaker 1 You thought that you could come around my way and be stupid. Fuck, what the hell you smoking? What the fuck possession? To come out your face, now I have to wet you.
Speaker 1
Throw on my tins, black masks, and black soapy. Twist a nigga caps, then jump into J-30.
Cause I'm putting the drop on you, kid. Now I got you.
You got the heart to get busy without your crew.
Speaker 1
Let's get it on, nigga, to what we gotta tell. You fucking me, I'm walking right back at you.
Who's the richest nigga in the project? Who got it live? Rockin' convertibles, drop chops in that hot.
Speaker 1
Coops to that whisk kid, and players on his team. Who's organized for live balls? Who's on thing? And your whole clip, got nothing but raw shit.
Whip after whip, stay flash and your dick on chips.
Speaker 1
Your whole crew's ravishing. Teams untouchable in the jungle, banging Osma D.
And who is money out there? Bruce catch crumbs, those are your sons. Jumps is in the no-box, bitches holding your guns.
Speaker 1
You know it's out there, thousands of grands rapping saran. Seal tight, keep the freshness.
That's how he expands. Avenger, trust the guns up, yeah, surrender.
Get ninja on the island.
Speaker 1
Bust the bridge, boy, remember. My little dog selling drugs and he's struggling.
The gang got him bugging. I try to tell him, slow down, cousin, but he vexed.
And niggas getting wet up in the project.
Speaker 1
But when no doubt, shorty's out for his respect. But is his brain insane from the lie? For smoking that 118 tiny top.
Wow, a nigga just died last week.
Speaker 1
Abby sworn he was grown and he's a duck in the street. But it's like that.
My crew pumped cracks and we packed mac. His eyes is wide with the resumkey on his back.
Speaker 1
But I'm stressed and he need to be blessed with a fire pack. Don't even go there cause it ain't like that.
Slow down, baby. He said, what, you tryna play me? You must be crazy.
Speaker 1
Pull out the heat and all on Blakey. Then he was sway.
The shot must have dazed me. Doug, selling drugs, bust a sucker.
He ain't crazy.
Speaker 1 It's right back at you. Mob Deep, Ghost, Ray, Noyd.
Speaker 1 Classic, classic, classic, classic shit.
Speaker 1 Fucking right, freeze.
Speaker 1 Fucking right, freeze.
Speaker 1 That's a dot.
Speaker 1
Ish. I still can't believe that.
It's crazy, bro. Explain it.
I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to old music too.
Um,
Speaker 1 I'm playing Mario from the show, Drowning.
Speaker 1 I never thought I'd be in between her legs while I'm still thinking about
Speaker 1 you.
Speaker 1 And I'm in too deep to pull out now. She's suffering while I feel good.
Speaker 1 When I said we should stop,
Speaker 1 you didn't wanna say.
Speaker 1 You did what I should.
Speaker 1 Now my feet can't touch the ground. I'm broke down.
Speaker 1 The closer when I get to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1
Your head is a rising. World tears are falling.
But I'm so close to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1 Either way, I'm thinking, I'm sinking, I'm not swimming. And you waters I'm drowning, drowning, drowning.
Speaker 1 My head's underwater, it tears overflowing.
Speaker 1
Can't stop me from drowning, drowning, drowning. Can't tears won't stop falling.
And nobody keeps calling. I'm drowning out for now.
Speaker 1 Tell you the truth, I could get used to this.
Speaker 1 But I don't wanna suffocate you.
Speaker 1 Cause even with two queens in my hands,
Speaker 1 if I'm playing games, I could still lose.
Speaker 1 When I said we should stop,
Speaker 1 you didn't wanna say
Speaker 1 now. My feet can't touch the ground.
Speaker 1 I'm going
Speaker 1 down.
Speaker 1 The closer I get to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1 Your waters are rising, my heart tears are falling. But I'm so close to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1 Either way I'm thinking, I'm sinking, I'm not swimming. In your waters, I'm drowning, drowning, drowning.
Speaker 1 My head's underwater, it's me's overflowing.
Speaker 1
Can't stop me from drowning. Drowning, drowning.
Hear tears won't stop falling, and nobody keeps calling. I'm drowning out for now.
Speaker 1 I'ma drown it out for now.
Speaker 1 I'ma drown it out for now.
Speaker 1 The closer I get to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1 Your waters are rising, while her tears are falling.
Speaker 1 But I'm so close to you,
Speaker 1 baby.
Speaker 1 Either way I'm thinking, I'm sinking, I'm not swimming.
Speaker 1 Your waters are drowning, drowning, drowning. Nothing's out of my heart.
Speaker 1 The tears overflowing. Can't stop me from drowning, drowning, running.
Speaker 1 Can't tears won't stop for a moment. And nobody keeps going.
Speaker 1 Drowning without your love.
Speaker 1 Drowning when you're away from me. Feels like I'm underwater and I can't swim.
Speaker 1 Feels like I can't even breathe without you. When you're out of town and I'm alone,
Speaker 1 feels like I'm drowning, y'all. Just come home.
Speaker 1
Just come home. That's it.
Home ain't even even home. None of the houses I build is home.
Speaker 1
None of them feel like home. They're just doors.
Without you, doors.
Speaker 1 And the grave words of Luther.
Speaker 1
A house is not a home. Look, even Mel knows that one is.
Come on. Come on.
Wake up, buddy. Wake up over there.
Speaker 1 Hey, Mel, what you playing for us today?
Speaker 2 I am going to play a new single by Leon Thomas and Hallie Bailey. It's called Rather Be Alone.
Speaker 1 And it's that Holly Berry unfollowed at Beyoncé page.
Speaker 1 I'd rather be alone,
Speaker 1 rather be alone than in a broken home. I'd rather be alone
Speaker 1 trying to do this for the both of us.
Speaker 1 oh.
Speaker 1 Oh, fuck the your
Speaker 1 wet.
Speaker 1 It doesn't matter, I pay attention.
Speaker 1 Maggin on your money, eating all your gold. Always need me wanting more.
Speaker 1 Cause I'm deep in mold, and we'll use that control.
Speaker 1 This is a cry, I'm in a soul. Just wanna be
Speaker 1 touching on some lives.
Speaker 1 Ain't your way, so yeah, you for the share.
Speaker 1 My child on me,
Speaker 1 knees on your chest. My heart's full of moon, I'm wearing a bed.
Speaker 1 I'm not gonna be alone.
Speaker 1 Let me be alone, it ain't a broken home. I let me alone.
Speaker 1 I need home. Tryna do this for
Speaker 1 my time.
Speaker 1 I take my time, losing my mind.
Speaker 1 I'm thinking of you all of the time, time.
Speaker 1
Cause without you, I'm crazy. You didn't smile, baby.
We're broken, but beautiful. So don't you give up.
Speaker 1 I won't be, baby. I could arms tie around me every time.
Speaker 1 Without you, I'm afraid.
Speaker 1 But you'd rather be alone, you'd rather be alone.
Speaker 1 Than in a broken heart, you'd rather be alone.
Speaker 1 Trying to do this for all the world. So
Speaker 1 I'll go on
Speaker 1 to me all that you know.
Speaker 1 It doesn't matter how many touchdowns.
Speaker 1 Brother Be Alone,
Speaker 1 Leon Thomas,
Speaker 1 Holly Bailey.
Speaker 1 Holly Bailey.
Speaker 1 Why is that for the sonic part? They put the button where you can't.
Speaker 1
I just want to see who produced it. You got to get out.
You got the 9S, right?
Speaker 1 I don't. This is a...
Speaker 1 Bigger iPhone.
Speaker 1
The screen is small. You got the 9S.
I'm going to make the old people fuck come up. Them drums sound like the drums that the fucking white demons and sinners was dancing.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it did a little bit.
Speaker 1
That's the bop it had. Yeah.
That shit is fire, though. We fucking with real singers now.
Speaker 1 Mark,
Speaker 1 I went with old music too,
Speaker 1
feeling some like a hip-hop head of the day. So I went with from Reflection Eternals album, Just Begun, featuring J Electronica, J.
Cole, and most death.
Speaker 1 We've only
Speaker 1 chosen
Speaker 1 it. I like it.
Speaker 1 Hey, I'm hot tap.
Speaker 1 best
Speaker 1
from the entry. You know I'm so influential.
Cause I'm glowing like a candle. The focus is so essential.
Dog, what you trying to get into? I'm steady to flow. Ready to blow.
Like snotty tissue.
Speaker 1
They snitching like Donnie Raspberry. I'm counting like Monty Crystal.
The ghetto. Full of betrayal like Iago and Adelo.
Your fellow neighbor will slay it. They're smoking like cigarettes.
Speaker 1
Police want that info. They're grilling like hortobellos.
And murdering instrumentals. Cause the ref with the counchers to fill us, killers, and monsters.
So we're feeling the honors.
Speaker 1
I'm still fulfilling the promise. So nice and killing with kindness.
You're
Speaker 1
You more like Tatiana, all this is probably karma. You dishonored the father, whether it's God Almighty or the Almighty Dollar.
We follow the prophets like Islamics or the Dalai Lama.
Speaker 1
Your bullet points so hollow, they can probably pair body armor. You can scope, my people still are tall.
Smile on my face, tears of a sad clown. Feeling out of place as I whistle a cab down.
Speaker 1 If I tip extra, can I huff a sig? Blow my smoke out the window, dropping ashes on the bridge.
Speaker 1 I'm in New York now, like I came and semi was Tryna get the lobby door open from a semi-bus
Speaker 1 I just wanna go to the slum and throw my money on the floor like the notorious bum uh Build a home, teach a class, start a revolution Free the mind, heal the body, talk and evolution This that black LOHE Anunaki rap That Fabricana Kimala Juan Kadapi rap I dedicate this to my niggas in New Orleans Rockin' black and gold stocking caps and flirty shocky hats I'm in the courtroom screaming who that on the devil serving gumble with a shovel dog I'm on another level.
Speaker 1
Me and Kwai come together like two pieces of metal. We magnetizing together.
Yeah, now here's the memo. I'm a rebel without a cause.
A bezel without no flaws.
Speaker 1
And shawty, you straight, bet you look way better without no draws. And sweat out this alcohol.
Bet I'ma block the ball. And never let up because I just crept up without applause.
Speaker 1
Fed up with all the frauds. And not y'all without a job.
The center of attention. This is clever.
I'm Dalgasol. Really don't, I'm LeBron.
Really don't got my mind on this new school of rappers.
Speaker 1
I will really go Colin Bond and throw off the diamond sign. Boy, you know I'm a shine.
Flowers in Ramadan. Cause couple years ago, the game had they pajamas on.
Speaker 1
But now they on my dick, man, I should throw a condom on. Hey, cause a nigga coming raw like I ain't got one on.
And I ain't stopping nor copping, no please. I just like a low squeeze.
Speaker 1
Dog, I'm on a higher level. I'm on top of nose bleeds.
Niggas say they sick, but when they rock, they don't sneeze. Like the nigga on the block wave, and his glapper won't squeeze.
Speaker 1 Please.
Speaker 1 Hey, yo, hold your uplaws until the ceremony end.
Speaker 1 Yo, shoot they they truly best yet again a noble battle Supermatching Abrica Debricade Mysterious Master Jim Blacker Pant Arrowhead With a long viral stem and his apparel fresh Harbor light shining out the black power grid with the black power grip and pure power don't power drip Push the cellar ceiling up and make the tower tip The Gladwell point of Babylon polish All about nothing west all about the dollar And mansions on the fault line of a shaky market The devil at the dance all thirsty for a partner get off em.
Speaker 1
There is not a parcel or a portion or a measure of a fortune. More awesome, gorgeous.
The funky four horsemen and one more with high-tech on the score. One small, of course, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 Thanks, appreciation for your participation.
Speaker 1 Special dedication,
Speaker 1 celebration.
Speaker 1
It's just begun. Reflection Eternal.
Try to live in high-tech, most F.
Speaker 1 J. Cole and J Lex.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I played that record before. That's a great record.
J. Cole went crazy on them, old niggas.
Speaker 1 JLX pulled that one the best. I thought it was, I think J Leck killed him.
Speaker 1
I think he ate that shit the best, but Paul's blood. Pause, yeah, that's crazy.
That was wild.
Speaker 1 That shit's crazy.
Speaker 1
Cole worked too, though. Oh, Cole got busy, bro.
Yeah, I think it was J Leck.
Speaker 1 For me.
Speaker 1 Patience show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Why ain't looking all stupid in the face? Nah, I was just laughing at you.
Speaker 1
I say, J. Cole smoked them old niggas.
Is that what he said?
Speaker 1 Oh, man. That made me went in here looking for trouble.
Speaker 1 I can't take Ish opinion on rap too seriously. He said something to me that
Speaker 1
it's a little out of bounds. What's it? What did he say? I didn't even hear it.
I can't even hear it. It was that bad.
What did you say?
Speaker 1 Guess what you said, Ish.
Speaker 1 You know,
Speaker 1 if you play within the lines, you would have jumped in that for right there. Then what would have happened?
Speaker 1
Then what would have happened? I don't know. Four niggas smoked.
I don't know. Sound like four niggas smoked to me.
Okay. I don't know what to do.
What you said, Joe.
Speaker 1
Perfect. What you talking about, nigga? Joe could definitely be at that side.
I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking about. You would have got a couple of them out of that side.
Boy.
Speaker 1
And I think he'd have got most of them out of that site because some of them, you know, Joe got his list. He got a clean train.
No, that's true, too. Yeah, he went for a lot of sauce out there.
Speaker 1 Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 I don't even know if you'd have could have rolled that beat like that. Maybe not.
Speaker 1 Maybe not. The world will never know.
Speaker 1
The world will never know. That's why retirement is beautiful.
You ain't got to do something you did already. You ain't got to answer nothing.
You ain't got to do nothing you did already.
Speaker 1
I mean, you ain't cleaned them up. You cleaned them up now? I cleaned everybody up.
No. I cleaned everybody up.
You ain't cleaned up that J, that, that, that. Who?
Speaker 1
No, it was to a couple niggas I didn't clean up. Okay.
Most niggas I cleaned up. Most of the times I appeared, it was like the boogeyman was there.
You pulled the broom out sometimes.
Speaker 1
Most of the times I was there, it was like the boogeyman was there. But I don't have to do that anymore.
Gotcha. I did that already.
Speaker 1
These guys are crazy. I'm not saying that, but I can't.
I can't swing back because then it looks like I'm playing dirty.
Speaker 1 What would be your swing back?
Speaker 1
I can't. I love them too much.
Can't say nothing too much. Hypothetically.
Yeah. Well.
Speaker 1 What? That would be hurtful. Okay.
Speaker 1
Can't hypothetically hurt your friend. But then that causes real feelings.
You can't. There's nothing hypothetical about feelings.
Speaker 1 Thank you, Corey.
Speaker 1 If you said goodbye to me tonight,
Speaker 1 there would still be music left to write.
Speaker 1 I'm so inspired by you That hasn't happened for the longest time.
Speaker 1 Once I thought
Speaker 1 my innocence was gone.
Speaker 1 Now I know
Speaker 1 that happiness goes on.
Speaker 1 That's where you found me.
Speaker 1 When you put your arms around me,
Speaker 1 I haven't had them for the longest time.
Speaker 1 Whoa.
Speaker 1 For the longest time.
Speaker 1 Oh, now.
Speaker 1 For the longest time.
Speaker 1
No, you gotta let the high voice. Who never heard this song? Ice.
Me? Ice. I tell you right now.
When you get around the world, I'll tell you. I got to shazam that shit real quick.
Speaker 1 I'm like, what the fuck are they saying?
Speaker 2 You never heard this song.
Speaker 1
It's all acapella. This is a big thing.
It's not great.
Speaker 1 Thank God. You're about to let the high voice nigga come in.
Speaker 1
He go crazy. He goes nuts.
No, I don't know anything, Billy Joe. I didn't even know it was Billy Joe until I.
Shazam was a fuck with it. But this is a white boy.
What that got to do with shit?
Speaker 1 I don't know that record.
Speaker 1 And I wasn't. You said you don't know any Billy Joe song.
Speaker 1
You know, Uptown Girl. You know, Uptown Girl.
Oh, my God. You know, Uttar.
Speaker 1 I don't know any Billy Joe.
Speaker 2 You have to know. Come on, Uptown Girl.
Speaker 1 You've heard it in movies.
Speaker 1 Reinstart the fire?
Speaker 1 I bet she never told her. That's a rap song.
Speaker 1
You know that high-voice nigga? That's Billy Joe, too. You know, he do all the parts.
No, he does.
Speaker 1
Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, that's what makes it song.
You do all the background, the percussion. You do everything.
Speaker 1 By voice, you're hearing in the hall.
Speaker 1 I'm going to be the greatest
Speaker 1 spirit.
Speaker 1 You probably heard the drill version.
Speaker 1 Yo, King Barb remade this.
Speaker 1
They gonna shoot him in the middle of the shit. Yo, now Lil Dirk got a version of this, bro.
You gotta check it.
Speaker 1 Alright.
Speaker 1
Keep us in your prayers, each and every last one of us. Don't you forget, not a fucking soul.
Please.
Speaker 1 Until next time.
Speaker 1
Keep us in your prayers, Lord. Knows we need to be there.
Until the next time we bid you a new new farewell. Adios, Riva Dirchi, out to Levista, Arbois, so longer.
Speaker 1 For the longest time.
Speaker 1 I had to say. Freeze, you a bitch.
Speaker 1 Sing this shit with us, man.
Speaker 1 Sing this shit with us. How the fuck you never heard Billy Joe?
Speaker 1
You made a ride on Freeze. No, and got 77,000 songs.
And a whole new memory. He got a lot of songs.
And took 21 Savage off of the Drake album, nigga. Listen to Billy Joel.
And took you off NBA.
Speaker 1
That's you. And off of Florence.
We didn't ask you that. Nobody.
Or young Flux. Nobody asked you all that.
You got taken off that one, too.
Speaker 1 It's an act you use, nigga.
Speaker 1 Ooh.
Speaker 1
All right, man, y'all hold it down. It's a long-ass song.
Bird.
Speaker 1
Yeah, this is back when songs used to be like four minutes. Yeah.
For real song. Oh, shit.
Time.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Freeze, you know the temptations, right, Freeze? Of course.
Speaker 1 Ooh.
Speaker 1 Yo.
Speaker 1 Is anybody doing anything really, really, really fun this week? You know this song?
Speaker 1 Is anybody doing anything really fun and interesting this week that we can exploit in the future for entertainment purposes? Hey.
Speaker 1 Anybody, anybody out there with y'all doing, huh? Maybe.
Speaker 1
Hitting the car wash, hitting the gas station. I'm going to the fight.
Going to the fight. You definitely got to go to the car wash.
You should fight some of my shit.
Speaker 1 The birds disrespected my shit.
Speaker 1 Now the birds went to war.
Speaker 1 I left my shit under a tree.
Speaker 1 That shit is... Nigga, the pollen got my shit looking...
Speaker 1
I left my green. I left my shit for three days under a tree.
That's what I'm doing. That shit came back.
Look cool.
Speaker 1
Drop my shit off tomorrow and pick it up later on. Detail it.
Like, it needs all that, man. You need a new spare.
Speaker 1 I already did that.
Speaker 1 I already did that. You get a new feel.
Speaker 1
Yo, you went bought a new tire. You went to Poppy or nothing.
I went and bought a new tire.
Speaker 1
I don't play around with you. From the dealer or from Elizabeth? Like, from the side shots.
You're grown out, huh? You're grown out. You're grown out.
You know what niggas used to do?
Speaker 1
From Shea Stadium, nigga. Nigga, you went and bought a $40 chumpy.
Yup, $35 tie.
Speaker 1
Again, congratulations to the Knicks. Go, Knicks.
Really a shame Jared Jack didn't get a chance to call us back for the first time since the series started.
Speaker 1
He didn't call us back, but he's with us in spirit, of course. Yes, sir.
My nigga. Shout out to all the fans out there.
Speaker 1 All the patronies all the athletes out there listening it's playoff time hey
Speaker 1 wait a minute
Speaker 1 glad we ain't talking about the lakers
Speaker 1 uh well i mean do you have anything that you want to say about the lakers what do you think about jj reddick playing the starters in the entire second half
Speaker 1 I think the Lakers from 1 to 12,
Speaker 1 it's a bad team. It's not a really good thing.
Speaker 1 He has a choice because that's a part of coaching.
Speaker 1 I'd be able to lost if he didn't do it.
Speaker 1
You got to maximize your players. I think that's something that great coaches do.
They'll take a nigga that you never heard of, and in the playoffs, them niggas will get come to life.
Speaker 1
Listen, J.J. Reddick, for me, is also in the Coach of the Year discussions.
Yes.
Speaker 1
It's also his first rodeo, so I'm not going to kill him too much. I think he did a great job getting y'all to 3C.
Maybe y'all overachieved. I thought y'all had a good shot to
Speaker 1 make the Eastern Western Conference Finals. But the fuck do I know? So with everything that's left, what do you have? Who do you have coming out of the East? You have conference finals, both sides.
Speaker 1 Cleveland just smacked Miami by 60 last night.
Speaker 1
I looked at that shit. Johnson smacked them other niggas by 55 the other night.
So they look like the real deal. It's still go nicks for me.
Boston is injured, so I'll wait to see how that goes.
Speaker 1
But we get an injured Celtic team next round. I love their head coach.
I love Jason Tatum. I love the black players.
I love that they paid black players. So
Speaker 1
shout out to them, man. We'll see what happens.
I still got Golden State in the Western Finals, man, with OKC.
Speaker 1 Who you got winning? That's my dark horse.
Speaker 1
It's hard to bet against. I mean, OKC is a much better team.
Just deep, bro. They deep.
Yeah, I got OK.
Speaker 1 They got 10, 11 Jokers that they could just throw in and interchange them, and they all play D, and they all could shoot the ball. My heart wants Golden State.
Speaker 1
If Golden State is healthy, I think they'd give him a run, but I don't think they're going to stay healthy. I got OK.
And shout out to Evan Mobley, our defensive player of the year, man.
Speaker 1
Let me hit a round of applause. Let me make a round of applause for him.
Well deserved. Well deserved.
Good defensive stop by Draymond the other night. Shout out to him.
Speaker 1
I think he was in the finalists for Defensive Player of the Year. What? Nothing.
You good? What you got going on this week? Anything? Nah.
Speaker 1 Well, maybe.
Speaker 1
She's working, being outside, getting to it. I'll end the broadcast, man.
Don't worry about it. Yo.
Speaker 1
Just get to the prayer. Y'all hold it down.
Keep each one of us.
Speaker 1
Positivity highlighted. That's right.
Thank you. That's my middle name.
That's my middle name. Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. Y'all hold it down.
Speaker 1
Have a good week. Enjoy this good weather.
Be kind.
Speaker 1
Be kind. Try that for a change.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Let that mean shit go for a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
It ain't about nothing. It's overrated, man.
Be kind, be loving, be warm. Healing, health, happiness, and hoes.
Speaker 1 Gotta have a hoes.
Speaker 1
You've never heard of Joe Bunny. JBP, JBP.
Where would you be without the JBP?
Speaker 1 Bunny.