Episode 821 | "The Natty"

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Right here. Don't stop.
Don't stop, nigga. Don't do it if she came back.
Don't try to figure out. She good, nigga.
We're on. We good, nigga.
Turn us on. Everybody on.
Yeah. Turn us on.
Huh? Last looks. Last looks.
Send your last minute texts. Huh? Do your Google.
Uh-oh. Huh? Make sure the ringer's off.
Huh? Uh-huh. The fuck they talking? You asked for it.
You turn your ringer on? You said make sure the ringer off. You turn those on? Yeah, so I can hear when I have a text message or a phone call coming in.
I know you have the fancy app. No, no, no.
It tells you all the shit. I just don't have my ringer or vibrate or anything on.
You don't want to be alerted when somebody's trying to get it? No. So why you got a phone? For when I want it.
Yeah. I will go look at my phone eventually and see that someone has called or texted.
And we'll deal with it then. We handle things different, even though I'm with y'all.
She handles things different. She wants to hear the ding.
I'm just saying, time sensitivity sometimes. Well, I mean, if there's something important going on and I'm expecting an important phone call, then that's a different scenario.
Vibrate. Or vibrate.
I don't hear that. Sorry.
Old age. Hearing goes.
Eyesight goes. It all goes.
I don't want no beef now. Yo, no beef.
I'm so old now.

I'm glad you said that.

I put the phone on speaker and still got to put it to my ear.

I'll move it a little close to you.

I don't hear the speaker when it's just like on a...

Turn the volume up, you dummy.

It be up.

I should be on maximum.

I'm like, yo, this don't make...

Yo, this is a goddamn shame right now. I'm with you.
On God. I don't put it to my ear, but it be right here.
It be right here. It be right here.
If it hit that waist, the sound get faint. The sound get a little faint, that's all.
That's real. That's real.
How's everybody doing? Doing good. Really good, man.
Really good. Huh, full crew.
Don't start, nigga. Full crew out of me we go Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,.
My nigga is back. Hey, yo, you might hit hard.
I'm sorry. I'm a little fat-ass finger.
What's up, man? You might not let your motherfucking really hurt. You went to a funeral? Oh, I'm sorry.
Condolences. A few other stuff.
Oh, family? I don't know. You was there for the weekend? Mm-hmm.
Got it. Did you eat good? Yeah, you know that down south that shit.
Yeah, I know. They were shooting pods by a funeral? No.
All right, that's it. They dropped a pod.
That's it. They dropped a pod on a day for a funeral.
I'm your friend today. I'm your friend today, big dog.
Hey, up, niggas, yo? We ain't playing with the funerals, nigga. Don't drop the pod on my day.
I'm off. I'm trying to, like, capitalize on my invisibility.
You shot it like a month ago, right? You shot it like a month ago, right? It depends on which part you're talking about. Oh.
Oh. My man is big.
Yeah, he shot a few. Well, okay.
Yeah, nigga, that's what we do, nigga. I know.
Yeah, keep the morale up, boy. We show you, boy.

Apple Crew!

Stop playing with us today!

Fuck that idiot.

Ish, who's your PR?

You might need to share the wealth.

She trying to get interviews.

Her shit look a little fake.

She trying to get what she can fit in, boy.

Yeah, you're right.

And she got a spot for me?

Now she's selling ass to Ish. Yeah, you're right.
And she got a spot for me? Now she's telling her ass to it. Please, sir, please.
That was a nigga fire. Look what you done did, nigga.
Look what you done did. Take those stupid ass glasses off.
Nah, they ain't look off in the stars. Yeah.
Wait, I don't have nothing to do with what y'all doing. Don't look them off, nigga.
You got nothing to do with this. I've been practicing this look in the fucking bathroom mirror since last night.
How the hell? I don't have nothing. Yo, with the glasses on? With the glasses on? Yeah.
Yeah, so don't fuck it up. Yo, you stupid.
This is 17 hours. You know what I mean? I don't have nothing.
Whatever y'all talking about, whatever your little duck curry, curry duck shit, date bullshit y'all did, I don't have nothing to do with. It was great.

It's a vibe.

It was great.

This is nothing but

vibes today.

Quadruple H.

No, you said triple H.

Health,

happiness,

healing, and hoes.

Gotta add hoes.

Sure.

Gotta add hoes.

Nigga said my new name is Triple H.

Hoes is nice even if you're healing.

Just to have a ring.

Even if you have somebody.

They speed up the process.

Hoes is cool.

Hoes make it better.

They speed up the process.

Oh, man. If only I had two small elephants.
Yeah. Mark, you good? Mark and Ish had some flat earth beef earlier.
Flat earth for Mark is like a bitch going in my phone when I'm asleep. He trolling me at this point.
I'm good.

I'm great, man.

All right.

Good spirits.

Let's get this bad boy started then.

Why not?

Why not?

So there's only two things in life that you worry about, whether you're healthy or whether

you're sick.

If you're healthy, you ain't got nothing to worry about. But if you're sick, you got two things to worry about.
Whether you're going to get better. Whether you're going to get worse.
You get better, you ain't got nothing to worry about. But if you get worse, you got two things to worry about whether you're gonna live or you're gonna die if you live you ain't got nothing to worry about you ain't got nothing to worry about you die you ain't got nothing to worry about you ain't got nothing to worry about you die you got two things you ain't got nothing to worry about you ain't got nothing to worry about you die you got two things whether you go in heaven, whether you go in hell.
If you go in heaven, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
You got nothing to worry about. Whether you go to hell, you got two things.

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Big Jersey, Big Jersey. Queens, what up, Jamaica ass? What up, what's going on out there? All right for the ladies, all right for the ladies.
I can't get over the fact that I'm with you Now that I have it, I don't know what to do

Shout out to all the some groups out there, all the first and last time listeners

Shout out to the Patronis always

Ingo!

Don't wake me, I'm a tree right now

Everybody outside, we got 80 degrees outside Donze outside Yummy, his car's out, his car's out today Here we go Just leave me alone Turn up the lights Oh, my God, I'm just gonna do it I'm just gonna do it

Just leave me alone

Turn up the lights that

Oh, my God, no

That's the shit

You know what I mean? When the weather get hot, man

When the weather get hot, it take me back to the 90s Cross colors and shit Conk and I and all that Do you remember When we fell in love Young man and something Do you remember When we Hey, shout out to the parents listening. 40 and up, 40 and up out there.
Y'all seen the Shannon Sharp electric slide? Yes. Yes.
Hang a lie, it did make me wonder how all of y'all's electric slide looked. Get up and do it.
Now everybody on the phone. Cut, cut, cut.
Cut it off. Everybody on the phone now.
No, cut it off. Now everybody on the phone.
What do you mean cut it off? What do you mean cut it off? Cut it right now, boy. Cut it right now, old boy.
Do I have that? It's electric. Come on, man.
You know how to do it now? Do I have that? Are you Googling how to do it? Man, put your phone down. I'm looking up to see what happened with Shannon Sharp.
I didn't see that. Oh, don't fuck the whole video, but he was doing an electric slide.
It wasn't the most, uh, it was bad. That's what he doing? He was terrible.
I was about to say, it doesn't look like no electric slide I ever seen. He look crazy.
That nigga electric is off. You can't feel it.
Yeah, he paid a bill. It should look terrible.
All right. What's that blackout slide? Let's see it, Griffiths.
Mmm. No, you never heard this?

Get up, nigga.

Your face, that's why I'm just,

you was like.

This is the electric slide song?

Excuse me?

I can't get up.

I can't get up.

I would've walked around.

I can't get up.

I would've got up. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha accept the charges.
Do you know how the electric slide? A little bit. Oh, OK.
All right. So it makes more sense.
All right. All right.
All right. She don't know how to electric slide.
Oh, that was great. You know, it's like a little back and forth, you know, slide, slide, and dip, dip, and then you...
What? Shh. Mark, did you know this about our sister in Christ? No, you fucking didn't.
Just that's it. You have said enough for the morning, okay?

Oh, shit.

What did I do?

Nothing.

Round her shit.

That nigga held you down when you left, y'all.

Oh, shit.

You just shooting that nigga in the head.

No, no, no.

When you left, nigga, he lifted the head.

Yo, this nigga, ain't nothing in there, my nigga.

It's everyone's best interest.

Because I saw the battery in his back, and he was like, ooh. Ain't no celery left, my nigga.
It's in everyone's best interest that I do this. I saw the battery in his back and he was like, ain't no celery left, my nigga.
It's in everyone's best interest that I pretend they're in. Apple celery? All that shit gone.
Oh, man, yo. I asked it to all of y'all, but in my notes, it definitely says...
Mel. Does Mel know how the electric slide? I've never heard that before.
What? How? Have you ever been to a wedding? No. A black wedding.
In fairness, it moves black weddings. They play that at white weddings.
But a lot of times they do. They play electric slide.
Yeah, they play electric slide. Really? Yo, they played that shit.
When was we at for New Year's Eve when they was playing all the white slacks? Yeah, in Costa Rica. Yeah.
At the Planet Hollywood or whatever the fuck that was.

You know when I usually see people doing the electric slide?

When candy comes on.

Candy by Cameo.

That's usually when I see people doing the electric slide.

So I didn't know there was a...

Like with the best man.

Best man.

I think it's just the best man.

The movie.

That wasn't...

Is that where we're getting on?

Yes.

Yes.

Isn't that where they do that? You know people do it when they hear candy come on in the club. Or at a party.
Candy comes on in the club? Cameo? Candy? Yeah, candy might come on, but... Of course.
I've never seen people do the electric slide in the club. What club is this? This is a Canadian thing.
I don't know. Yeah, that's what

I always thought

the electric slide

was done to.

Just for shits and giggles

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Can you show us

what you know

of the electric slide?

Hell the fuck no.

Is it that bad?

Flip or do it with you?

Flip or do it with you?

We would do it together, all three of us.

Come on.

I don't care.

Let's go, man.

Come on.

Yo, this is about to be classic.

Who said it?

Oh, uh, E.

Who said it?

Can we turn the music up a little bit?

Who said it, E?

Let's get it.

Let's get it. Starting now, it's the same feeling I always seem to get around ya.
There's no restakin' to a feeling to them. I have to say fuck you, fuck up, ya.
What the fuck are you doing? Yo, what are you doing? This nigga did that electric boogaloo. You know how to do the electric fly? It's been a long time.
You do. You get crazy in the regular clubs.
I know you get crazy with it. On that electric fly floor? Oh, so he's saved because he's got the boot on.
Now I know how to do the electric fly. Do it with the boot on.
It's your body that shit. Do it with the boot on.
Do it with the boot on. Do it with the food on.
He knows how to do it. I promise you.

He do, he do.

He does.

Really?

You've seen him do it?

You know the breeze?

Yes.

I put my chips to the table

and it just knows

how to do this.

Fact, trust me.

And it's put it

to grow younger.

Do it.

You're my complexion.

Niggas out there

with dirt roads.

Oh my lord.

A hundred motherfuckers

doing electric stuff.

He's right.

Okay, well.

Parks. I missed it.
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What? Wait, what happened? Pork's hit. Crack them.
What's crack? What's crack? Five. Huh? Four? Yes.
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Wow. Yeah, the polos looking great.
Yeah, look at them on crispy new chucks. Polo.
Extra crispy new chucks. The chucks are already fucked up.
That's a nice crack. Yeah, the polos looking great.

Yeah, look at them on crispy.

New chucks.

The chucks are already fucked up.

Nashville was rough on the chucks.

White chucks in Nashville was not a great decision.

A six player?

It was a bunch of different ones.

I was going crazy.

Oh, all together?

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, you went to Tennessee?

Nashville was that good to me.

Nashville was that good to me.

I ain't crack them like you. When I was in Virginia, you could get busy, too.
Anyway, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with some really amazing people to my right. The amazing Melissa Ford is back in the building.
Welcome back. Thank you.
Fresh off a curry duck fest. All right.
Shout out to Flip's wifey. Thank you.
Thank you. And mother-in-law.
Thank you. And the hell is down.
Yeah. And the kids and family and just everything.
How'd that come about? I saw that. I saw a clip.
Yeah. I saw it too when I was home free and available.
My mother-in-law. Me too.
And hungry. And hungry.
Hungry as complete. And that shit look good.
Craving for duck. How'd that came? We were discussing it with Ian.
He said, you like duck? And I said, well, my wife, my mother-in-law knows how to make curry duck. And we set up a date.
Then I called Mel. I said, Mel, you know, we at Ian Crib.
Come through. Get some duck.
And, you know, I feel your spirit. You know what I mean? Might be down a little bit, but come through and have some fun with us.

I like to move.

Y'all got Ian Crane playing

Duck Duck Goose. She came quick, too.

Greedy ass.

She said, oh, my God.

I said, what are you doing, man? I'm doing some electric

shock therapy on my shoulder.

I said, girl, you want some duck and roti?

Yeah, sure. As soon as I

up to fall, ring.

She had the door. I didn't even give her an address.
She knew it. It was fun.
Hey, yo, it was a point. It was a point in there, right? Mel was sitting on the couch.
I'm on my phone. She's just staring at me for man long, but I feel her staring at me to talk, but I'm ignoring her.

So she told me, can you turn the volume down off your phone because it's kind of loud.

I said, that's kind of rude.

You don't mind my business. I turned it down.

I looked to the

left, and she's just looking like this.

I said, man,

what's up? Talk to me, my nigga. We just had

a good conversation. It was good to see you, man.

It was great.

Chopped it down. Chopped it down.

Chopped him down.

She said, you know, they chopped me down, Flip.

Can you continue?

She said, they chopped me down.

Okay, so Flip is here.

Great.

Yeah, Queen's Flip.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Get the money, y'all.

Ish, right.

Get the money, y'all. King Wawa, Ish is in the building.
The freezies of them all. Ice is here.
Mr. Taken Further himself.
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Big Parks, Elmira's finest. Poe is here.
Corey is here. Erickson is here.
Anybody else that's here is here on their own volition. He ain't keep.
Yeah, shout out to them niggas too. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's going on? What's going on? Talk to me now.
Feeling great, man. Feels good to be home, man.
I'm exhausted. I did some peasant shit, bro.
And I thought about all of y'all. I was like, damn, I'm going to let my family know, man.
I caught a flat the other day. That's not peasant shit.
I changed the flat. That's bad shit, man.
I think that's incredible. You should have road flats, though.
Your car has tires in the back. You have a spare? See? See? I didn't know.
See? So wait, your fancy car doesn't come with a spare? No. Run flats.
You had a spare on your car? Run flats. I had a spare on my car.
What? Oh, wait, you got the little secret compartment under the trunk. You got a look rich.
And a look rich. Hey, yo.
You got to hang up. You got to hang up.
You know the shit that it come with is some bullshit, right? So I'm out there like this. Hey, yo, they got the little pack of tools.
Yeah, the youngest Lug Rich. I put it together.
I was like, yo, man. Where you at? I was on the turnpike.
On the highway? Oh, my God. You fucking fuck.
You ain't got AAA enough? I do, but I just figured. Your car company, you ain't got the button have the button Where they say we'll come get you Orange star I have all of that But by the time I got it I could just change it real fast And get the fuck out of here Well you was by yourself right It was starting to rain You was by yourself You changed it in the rain No it was about to start to rain Wait so it was I don't want to be waiting Wait so it was thundering On your back No And then you would look up like this.
I was just like, man. I could sit here on a turn bike.
18 wheel around my burn. I could sit here and hold under his hat or I could just change this shit and get out of here, bro.
You was by yourself? Yeah, I was by myself. Thank God.
Thank God. Thank God.
Yeah, thank God Missing Peace wasn't there. Trip away with a kid.
And somebody almost hit you one time too, right? Nah, I got over far, bro. Yo, you crazy, bro.
That's dope, though, to know how to change the tire. Yeah, it's man shit.
We don't know how to change the tire. Not a lot of guys out there know how to change the tire.
Hey, right here don't change the tire, right? Yes. Yeah.
We're men's men. I think the new niggas don't know how to change them.
The new niggas don't know how to use, they don't even have tools, bro. They don't know how to do nothing.
That's real. I got Triple A for a reason, though.
I got them, it's just they a minute. I had somewhere to be, and I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to win.
How long have you put a spare on your truck? Yeah, put the spare room. You got a donut on the truck? No.
I already got too tired after that. I had to drive, though.
I had a baby leg on the truck. Shit, man, I even drive.
Oh, no. You're not like that.
So now it's raining What? Oh nigga got a donut in the rain Yeah it was bad I'm good I'm proud of you though I got your boy for a reason my nigga I got run flats for a reason I'm about to say yeah ain't never doing that. That's some of the poorest I've ever heard.

Yo, you got a spare?

Yo, look at the shit we shave.

You got a spare in this trunk.

Yo, yo. You got a spare.

Yo, your trunk lift up and it's a tire under there.

Ain't even nothing fly.

I'm sorry you went through that, though.

Yeah.

That's rough, man.

Did you feel better on something? When you fix something at the crib, you feel like a man's man? Did you feel like that? No, nigga, I was tired. Doing this shit.
And then you got to... Yeah, I was tired.
Fuck that. Tell you one thing, the trunk on that motherfucking Ferrari is the size of them little pocketbooks them bitches be wearing.
No tire in there, huh? You could put about 10 pennies in there. Shit made for a duffel

or no,

that's it?

I was mad for a second

until I fucking felt poor.

It's like,

oh,

all right,

they don't want you

to put nothing in here.

Yeah.

This ain't to put nothing in here.

It's for your wallet.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So you don't sit on it.

Well,

I'm glad you still remember

how to fucking

put a tire on the car.

That's cool.

That's what,

that man's man shit

is what I, oh, it's overrated? Oh, it's way overrated. That's what, that man's man shit is what I,

Oh,

it's overrated?

Oh,

it's way overrated.

He's changing shit.

No,

listen,

I build houses.

I'm not changing.

I'm calling triple A,

my nigga.

I'm good.

And I will,

I waited on the side of I-95

with my son in the back.

How long?

Solid hour.

See,

I need to get up out of there.

Yeah,

he's a tough kid. He'll be alright.

He'll be alright. I had somewhere to be.

Bill's tolerance.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm not fucking with that.

God's good to see each and every one of you guys.

Happy being here. Honestly.

Full crew up in here today.

So,

unfortunately, we have to start with

a topic that has been taking over the internet.

Yes. Again.
Yes.

Again.

Yes.

Again.

Again.

Yeah, I remember just the first time.

Yeah.

And the second time.

Every couple years.

Yeah.

Short answers.

No.

Yes.

Short answers.

100 men versus a gorilla.

Unarmed men.

Men that can change tires or men that call AAA.

Oh, that's a good one.

Put whatever men you want.

No, the answer's always no,

by the way.

All right, so you got no, Mark.

Fuck no.

Ice.

Gorilla coats and boots and shit for everybody, man.

We fucking that gorilla up.

Ish.

Fuck no.

Flip.

Nah.

You ever seen one of them shits in real person? In real life? Yeah. You seen a hundred people though? Jump.
Yeah. No.
Mel. A hard no.
No. Joe.
No. But that doesn't stop me from thinking about it.
Oh, I think about it all the time. Wait, this has come up more than once? Yes.
This is a years old internet debate. Yeah.
This is from years ago. The only difference now is they got AI and shit to like draw.
To actually do it. To show it, yeah.
To show what would happen. Niggas could barely knock a nigga out with a punch.
What they going to do to hurt the gorilla? Right gorilla's hands be like this big. The gorilla arm be like, what they going to do to hurt the gorilla? That's all I want to know.
How they going to hurt it with no weapons? I just like hearing questions where male ego gets to respond. That's why I say, yeah.
So, yeah, it's just fun. They're going to slam the dog shit.
When the first guy gets smooshed. Yeah, like the first 10 guys get their head ripped off, arm ripped off.
It's going to scare about like 30 of them. Well, that's the thing.
100 men really mean probably 60, 40 to 60 men. Yeah, that best.
20 to 30? 12, nigga. Because a lot of people are going to die.
People are going to die. Only 12 of them can fight.
Not good die. Ter terrible die.
Give me 100 crackheads, though, because that's different. That's different.
Crackhead strength a little different. I would freeze a little bit.
I just seen crackheads do some shit. They're going to hold his leg and shit.
They're going to bite him. I'm telling you, I'm going to freeze.
I'm going to freeze. You can throw a crackhead.
I see the crackhead climb a pole, fall, and climb back up for that $100. We talking about the streetlight pole.
I'm on the top and hold on. Tell the crackhead you got $100 for him.
Yeah. All right.
That gorilla ass is grass. But fear starts to kick in.
Once the gorilla starts fucking the first 10 or 20 people up, there's about 10 or 20 more going to be scared. Even if they fearless.
It would be like saying, like, how many 10-year-olds could you take? Could you take 110-year- No. Let me level a number.
Six year olds. Because that's probably more comparison to a gorilla to us.
You think you could beat 106 year olds? Yeah. Easy.
Grabbing the first six year old and usually gets all theseyear-old. Once you get tired after like 25, 30

because everybody ain't in the best shape.

You still got 70 more of them niggas to go.

How they gonna hurt you? Start biting on your ass.

With the six-year-old teeth?

Biting, I ain't gonna hurt. And this is how the gorillas

think looking at us. Exactly.

Little punk-ass human teeth.

I ain't doing shit.

Yo, stop, yo.

A hundred brave Mendo-ish. I'm't, yo, stop, yo.
A hundred brave men, though-ish?

I'm calling

the women

to bring

the bears.

That's good.

I ain't gonna

get that bear

back in here,

yo.

That was the

funny shit you said.

Joe said,

there was a bear

loose somewhere

and guess what?

All the women

ran.

Joe,

that was the

funny shit.

What can't that

fuck you talk about?

Joe,

that was so funny.

They got out of

Sam's.

What's that little

Connecticut

I'm sorry. We're here.
Joe, that was the funniest thing. What's the fucking talk about? Joe, that was so funny.
They got out of Sam's. What's that little Connecticut Kroger? Oh, man.
Oh, shit. Stupid, yo.
There's a study that says that men overestimate their ability to fight by 400%. We talked about that.
Yes. Forget me.
Okay, yeah. To me, that's what the conversation seems like.
When I watch people saying they can do it, I think we think we can do shit we can't. Right? What do you think leads to that thought process? Is it all the video games, like the first-person video games that you guys play all day? Testosterone.
Ego. Okay, all right.
But does this help kind of build the ego? No. Okay, it's just naturally just daftness.
Yeah. You can do it.
I don't think these niggas

believe they can do that shit

period.

I don't think in their

heart of hearts

they believe that.

But the ego

won't allow you to say it.

So a lot of niggas

won't say yeah

we can do it.

And also people don't fight.

Most people

who talk about fighting

haven't been in a fight

or don't fight.

So a lot of it is

you estimate what you'll do

in that situation

and men tend to think

that their anger

and their rage will carry them through. They think that shit Jason Statham do is easy Word like Word man I would've No you wouldn't So they throw that first punch And realize it ain't do What you thought it was gonna do I went to see that Jason Statham movie I told y'all I was gonna see it How was that bullshit? The same as any other one.
I ain't even see it. So he worked for some Mexican family.
They took the Mexican family daughter and Jason Statham really rocks with the family. So now he go kill 970 people.
To get the daughter back. To get the daughter.
Oh, kind of like Man on Fire. Man on Fire.
Kind of like every movie. The Beekeeper.
Kind of like every Jason Statham movie. But this one is like, dog, this ain't even your daughter.
Nah, but we got to report. You killed 975 people.
He just fucked with off principle. Yeah.
Fuck with him. He taught her how to ride a bike.
Don't worry about it. He taught her how to ride a bike.
This why. They got a bomb.
Hey, I saw Accountant 2, too. All y'all little jokes is exactly why I walked out with 20 minutes left on the clock.
I'm tired of taking this shit. I'm gone.
I had enough. They had Accountant 2? Yeah.
In the movie theater. It's in the theater now.
Been in it? Yeah. And John Berenthal.
And his brother. Oh, John Berenthal.
Yeah, the Johnniest. It wasn't good? No, I didn't like it at all.
Accountant 2? I didn't like it at all. I wasn't a fan of Accountant 1.

I love Accountant 1.

Accountant 1 is fire.

People love Accountant 1.

Accountant 1 is all the way fire.

What a plot twist.

Oh, they're brothers.

Like, that was fire.

This one, storyline is whack.

The brothers are working together.

They ain't kill enough people.

It's not in your bag.

They didn't kill enough people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hilarious.

Movie review.

Ben is on there acting like fucking Mark Lamont with his didn't kill enough people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They didn't kill enough fuckers. Hilarious movie review.
Ben is on there

acting like fucking

Mark Lamont

with his autism

just bullying people.

He missed J-Lo.

Fucked him up.

Anyways,

I wasn't trying to do movies.

I did go to the movies.

I saw Sinners.

Hey.

After Last Pop,

went to go see it.

There we go.

I absolutely loved it.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes. Absolutely loved it.
Yes. There we Absolutely loved it.
I'm mad I waited. But I like the development.
It took a minute because I'm sitting there like, damn, I thought this shit was a vampire movie. And I ain't seen no vampires for a minute.
Even when they popped up, I didn't realize that there was vampires. Off the rip.
Yeah, you wouldn't have, though.

I'm going to let that go.

He'd have trusted him?

No, I'm going to let that go.

I coon every day wouldn't have noticed that they was the vampires.

I'm going to let that one go.

He'd have thought that was just, come on in.

Hey, it was help.

Hey, come on, y'all.

Why don't you play it so much?

Hey, here's the orcs.

Stop.

Wait.

I ain't going to give him the orcs. Stop it.
All right, go ahead gave him the... Stop it.

All right.

Go ahead.

When did you notice

it was vampires?

No, when my man opened,

when the Indian dude

came to the door

and he ran in.

Native Americans.

Excuse me.

Yes, Native Americans.

My bad.

We going off the bat.

Where the fuck are we?

I apologize.

But I didn't...

My man was burnt up.

Burnt up.

I didn't put the two

and two together right away. Then the very next, I said,'s the vampire got it that's all but yeah that shit was I want to see it again I've seen it twice I'm tight that I can't catch this 70mm IMAX for Delph no you were on two of them joints trying to figure out let me guess what an exec you had pick like you ain't know you ain't see it before? I haven't seen it.
Looking forward to this. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. She wasn't even jumping in shit.
Everybody did that before. Van Price biting you.
She ain't jumping in shit. Like, oh, my God.
Whoa. Yeah.
Don't act like y'all ain't did that. And on top of that, real quick, the conversation you had about Jordan Peele and all that on the last part, I saw a lot of people talking about your conversation that you brought up, comparing the two and stuff like that.
That was something that people were talking about. I just wanted to say salute to you when you was talking about Jordan Peele and the comparison, the Sinners, and the movies that he'd done.
Am I the person that up? Yeah. I don't recall.
I had asked the question, but you was kind of like against that. Yeah, you was against that.
I was in the same conversation. That's what I'm saying, but it...
Yeah, I don't think I would have did that. No, no, hold on, hold on.
We were saying that we liked his movies, you and I were saying we liked his movies more than, Cool's movies more than Pinch. Than him, yes.
Yeah. Did we initiate that or were we asked? kind of came I forget how it came up now me too cause I'm not with dimming somebody's light cause I'm bigging somebody else up I think the movie got compared to nope what's the movie I don't like that get out us and he did us I think it was get out we started talking the comparison came up cause I brought up I brought up the movie about that Marlon Wayne is in Right The football movie Him Him And you was like Nah I don't wanna I'm not excited about that And then I asked why Then That was my time But shout out to Jordan Peele I don't want no smoke That's just not my That's just not my bad People were talking about it Like when I was talking Some people were upset And some people It was a debate Alright I want to take, because me and Parks were getting dragged a little bit about, I don't know if you saw, me and you, because we didn't like that scene.
The musical scene? The montage scene? I didn't like the, y'all are nuts. I'm okay with being nuts.
And, do y'all know that that was Raphael Shadiq? Salute to one of the greatest musicians and producers ever, but I didn't like the drums. It was the drums.
Stop it. Sorry.
Okay. And we're both drummers, so it actually might be a nerd drummer thing.
What? So what? I'm a drummer. Shut up.
Was it? Drum better. What was the issue that you guys had with it? The drums.
The drums. Like, what about the drums? What about the drums? They were swaggerless trap.
They were sold to me. There was just nothing to them.
Yeah. It was just like, meh.
So that made y'all hate the whole scene? No, the scene was cool. I'll talk about the music.
We're talking about the music. Yeah, it's the sound.
Sonically, I didn't like it. Aesthetically, I thought it was beautiful.
For me, it was the sound. Yeah.
And I liked the idea. Yeah.
It just, to me, wasn't executed the greatest. Yeah.
Oh, no. I ain't had nothing bad about it.
I fucked with the music, the whole shit. I went and got the soundtrack.
Listen, if I only didn't like 30 seconds of the movie, I'm okay with that. And the rest of the music in the movie was great.
It was just that one little scene. I'm okay with not liking it.
And I felt like the electric guitar kind of played a bigger role in that scene though than the drums. I don't know, that was what I remember.
And the movie told us he wouldn't like it. Mark not like it.
I see what you like So You saw it too right What'd you think Oh About the entire movie Yes Yes You had to see this coming I I think I think it was highly overrated You said what Highly overrated I think I think artistically it was dope But I think it was highly overrated. You said what? Highly overrated.
I think artistically it was dope, but I think it was highly overrated.

Why?

Had it overrated for you?

I think that what happened with the movie was the marketing was great,

and I think that the people did a great job marketing the movie.

When I sit and talk to people about the movie before I saw it,

it sounds like they regurgitating something that they read.

Okay Like some of these

motherfuckers

couldn't

Thank you. Like, when I sit and talk to people about the movie before I saw it, it sounds like they regurgitating something that they read.
Okay. Like, some of these motherfuckers couldn't use some of those words if you paid them.
And it just sounded like somebody read some shit, and then they just basically... People were offering, like, dissertations on Twitter about it.
And I think people read that, and it influenced their real assessment of the movie.

So what did you think was like overrate?

What were you expecting versus what you got?

Good question.

I think the plot was blah.

I think some of the symbolism that people talk about, again, I think they read that.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't think people came up with that on their own.

And then I've heard two like totally contrasting points of view. So I think that if you read one and you're like, oh, okay, that's what that meant.
And then somebody else could have gotten something totally different. I think it was a great piece of art.
But again, art is subjective. I could look at a painting and you could get something from it that I don't get from it.
I could get something totally different. That's what I think it was.
But as far as. But you just said it was a great piece of art.
Yeah, the way it was shot. I think the cinematography, all that was dope.
I think the plot was... What do you think about the acting? The acting was okay.
I think I like Michael B. Jordan.
I don't think he gets in character well sometimes. I think when you start doing a movie from the 1930s, we still speak too properly.
I think when you are actor-actor, you get into that. You change your grammar.
You do all of that shit. Nobody's using apostrophe S's in 1930s when you was a sharecropper.
You know what I'm saying? Some of that shit don't be believable for me. Yeah, but it was a little different because they moved up to Chicago, hit the big city, and was working up there, doing what they did.
So he got a different experience. Yeah, he was up that way.
So now he brought that back. So yeah, he's going to talk a little different with that little city swag.
Could people have not been using apostrophe S's in the 1930s? Like, why is that so far-fetched? I don't know. Yes, they did.

I think someone else up here even said

that they didn't necessarily like the...

I didn't like some of the language.

It didn't seem anachronistic.

That wasn't my particular word.

I don't think that's the craziest thing.

I'm just giving an example, bro.

When you watch a slavery movie,

or I watch Harriet Tubman, a slavery movie,

slaves didn't speak like that.

So it kind of comes off as inauthentic. I had issues with some of the language too so we want the slaves to be portrayed the right way what letter grade would y'all give I would give the film I would sell my homie on a way like a B plus A minus I would say A minus is probably where I would land you know what I mean I reserve A for like godfather level shit but like if I were giving a letter grade I'd probably give it like a 90, 92, right? Or a number grade rather.
B minus. B minus for you? C plus, B minus.
C plus, B minus, okay. B minus, maybe.
Wow, okay. It's definitely probably an A, A minus for me.
I was eight and a half to nine out of ten. Yeah, yeah.
It's a great movie. I'm kind of surprised because you're pro-black and you look at things from a pro-black lens when it comes to black people and, you know, the black director and all the things surrounding the film.
So I thought that you were going there with that. I did.
I did because I read it. Ish, do you feel like that sometimes you don't like things because of the hype that comes with them? Sometimes, but I think if it lives up to the hype, then I'm on board.
You get what I'm saying? I think that if I saw this movie without ever seeing anything about it, I'm not being contrarian. I saw the movie, it was okay to me.
I've seen movies that was big, big, bigged up and when I saw it, I was like, okay, that shit was fire. You get what I'm saying? So it don't do that for me.
Do you think your opinion would have been different if you'd never heard a thing about it? Nah. I didn't hear a thing about the movie when I went in.
I didn't even know what it was about. I didn't know shit.
I just watched it and enjoyed it personally. Can I ask you a controversial question? Me? Yeah.
Sure. I don't thought of it because Flip just said that pro-black shit, which I do believe that you are.
Yeah. But there's a clip going around of you saying that you didn't believe that black people should get reparations.

Oh, I read that.

Did you?

I didn't see the clip, but I read somebody say how disappointed they were in him saying that.

That he said that because they need financial literacy.

He said that black people, if they get the money, what, they're wasted or whatever because they don't have financial literacy?

What did you say? I'm waiting for you to finish. That's exactly what will happen.
I'm waiting for you to finish your question. I think that's what he asked.
That's what I'm asking. What about it? Do you believe black people should get reparations? No, I think black people should get equity, and I think the two are different.
I think that I'm not really a fan of handouts. Like, I don't want your money.
I just want me to be able to make my money and you not be on my dick about making it. I don't think that I'm not really a fan of handouts.
Like, I don't want your money. I just want me to be able to make my money and you not be on my dick about making it.
I don't think that if we get reparations, we're going to fare any better. Me personally, I don't think that.
So I think reparations would be a waste for most. Some would definitely take the money and do some positive things with it.
But I don't think it'll get us no better if we're not changing how we're being treated

in America.

I don't think reparations

are going to change nothing.

It's early in the show.

Go ahead.

No, I don't.

Like, I don't want equality.

I want equity.

So if you got a 500-year

head start,

and now me and Parks

are able to both

make $100 a day,

Parks going to keep

his 500-year head start.

It's not.

But if you got twice

that much money,

Thank you. me and Parks are able to both make $100 a day.
Parks going to keep his 500-year head start. It's not.
But if you got twice that much money. And then I got twice that much money and they still don't change the way that we are being treated, it's going to be futile and useless.
But the way... Oh, go ahead.
Because you said before that it's about rich and poor. So the way we're being treated is because we're poor.
No. I think that, yes and no.
I think that. So let me just finish.
So if we did get the money, would it change how we're treated because they're not necessarily poor anymore? No, because they're not going to give you enough money for you to be rich. Reparations, they're going to have to give 13% of the population reparations.
Then they're going to decide if you got black blood, if you don't, like when we get the reparations. One, the reparations don't come with a financial literacy package to show you how to use the money to your best advantage.

That I agree with.

That's number one. Number two is black people that make a shit ton of money today that still don't do nothing with the money and don't gain nothing in society just because they have money.

So I don't think the reparations is the end all be all.

I think that's a cop out for me.

It's my opinion.

I would just I would just say one.

And I get the idea not taking handouts, but the whole argument of reparations is that it's not a handout. That it's old.
Reparations literally means repair. Got you.
Repair the damage done. So the idea is, like you said, if you got a 100-year head start and you took my money for 100 years and you exploited my labor, and all this stuff was built around our labor, universities, companies, insurance.
The country. Yeah, the whole country, right? Every institution.
Then giving us reparations isn't a handout. It's actually what we're owed.
And then the second part of that, I think, is I've never heard people say reparations either or. I've been part of reparations movement for a long time.
Not like a leader of it, but just advocating for it. And every reparations person I know is also asking for voting rights, housing protections, other things.
And then the last part of it is I think reparations should be a check. I think every descendant of slavery, to be clear, so I don't get hit on it, every descendant of American slavery here in the United States deserves reparations.
But I also think in addition to the check, we should also have access to free public education, like university education. We should also have – there's other things you can do systemically to close that gap in addition to the money.
So I think we could. But when we talk about reparations overall, we're talking about a check.
It's two different thoughts. You're taking it, when most people, in a general sense, talk about reparations, they're talking about a check.
Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's fair.
If you said, yo, do you think every descendant of slavery should get free education? I'm, yeah. And again, it just depends on...
If you got all the other stuff, would you be okay with the check too? I wouldn't be turned down the check now. No, I mean, that's the idea.
I don't mean, would you turn down it? I just think that it's, I don't think it's going to do what people think it's going to do. I think that a lot of times people just be like, yo, if I had, if my mother worked at such and such, I would be doing better.
Or if all of that shit, to me, it's the same ideology, in my opinion. And it's funny that out of that Mandy interview, the shit that we highlight is the one thing that we ain't highlight nothing else.
Oh, I didn't see the Mandy. We ain't highlight nothing else.
All the other positive shit, we definitely going to go to the negative shit, which I think is goofy, but it's cool. Again, I just think...
I don't. That was a...
I think the education is more important. I don't...
I disagree with that. I think that you should be able to expound on something that sounds wild in an excerpt.
So I brought it up so you can do that. I get it.
I didn I didn't mean for the deep dive. No, how I look at some of these issues, again, is definitely...
I've been up here four years. How I look at some of these issues is definitely on the opposite side of many people.
But that's okay. No, I know.
No, I'm saying I stand in that. I'm not against that.
I stand in what I believe in. I think that what Dave Chappelle had to think about reparations.
He's like, yo, the Cadillac dealership going to be empty in two days. Shit like that.
I just think that. It's essentially white people say to justify not giving it.
Yeah, I'm about to say it. And so we cop Cadillacs then.
No, it ain't even just to justify not giving it. Them white boys got all that crypto money and bought every Lambo in the spot.
But I'm just saying, we saw something similar. Not similar, but we saw when people got access to a whole bunch of extra money they didn't expect during COVID.
PPP and all that shit, yeah. And look what happened.
I'm of the belief that that's not my business. True.
I'm not saying that y'all are right or that y'all are wrong. That ain't my business.
Somebody go get their check and blow it. Oh, Of course, of course.
It's funny. Mind in the shoebox still.
This is a side, but it's kind of related. When I was in Nashville this weekend, we went to the Country Music History Museum or whatever, and they had some cars.
They had Elvis' car. It was diamond paint, gold-plated trim, TV in the back.
Another dude's car had guns for the door handles and a gun on the front. I was like, this is all the shit that they yell at rappers about, like violence and extremism, and country stars were doing the exact same shit in 1950 or whatever.
Anyway, sorry. Aside.
They need to do a deep dive on Elvis' real life and who he was. I'm not a fan of Elvis, but I'm fascinated by his story and all the extravagant shit he did.
So anyway. I don't fuck with Elvis.
Why do you fuck with him? Because he was a racist? I don't think he was. I don't think he was.
Okay, culture vulture? Appropriation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he was racist, though.
And I think that the people that he engaged with back in the days

appreciated the fact

that he was coming in

and supporting them.

Let me ask you a question.

There's a lot of fake quotes

about Elvis, though.

A thousand of them.

Do you think Parks

is a culture vulture?

No.

So if Parks went on

to take the things

that he learned

in black culture

and made a zillion dollars

with it.

If Parks got on stage

and started singing

You Ain't Nothing

But a Hound Dog without GIF, yes. I'm gonna call him a fucking culture vulture.
Yeah. Yes, I am.
There was definitely artistic theft there. A thousand percent.
But the people, those are his genuine friends. It doesn't fucking matter.
It doesn't matter. Like, look at this whole sinners conversation.
A lot of people have been throwing the accusation at Ryan Coogler that he completely ripped off from Dusk Till Dawn. No, no, no.
It was a different movie too. Go ahead.
Daughters of the Dusk or something like that? I'll find the name. Okay.
But really, it's about from Dusk till dawn because it's a very similar storyline.

It's very, very similar.

Stylistically too similar. Exactly.

But what a lot of people don't seem to understand or willfully ignoring is the fact that he has basically said he's paid homage to that.

It's not like he has basically said, oh, I came up with this.

It's a completely original story.

No, he has paid homage to that.

And there's plenty of filmmakers

and artists in general that remakes or

borrow from some other shipwreck-Carrie.

No, so I'm finishing my point

and basically saying, like, it's one thing

if you, you know, take somebody's

idea and you give them absolutely no credit

for it. It's another thing if you're saying

I was inspired by this particular

piece of work that was done by this particular

person and you give them the credit. That's

completely different. And I want

to be careful with the language took somebody's idea. I do want to be careful with that.
The people that Elvis covered gave him permission and bigged him up for it. And it was reciprocated.
He showed them love. He went back there and supported them.
So they were fine with it. It's like now in retrospect, when we look back, we have these issues.
But the people in that time were fine. They bigged him up.
They talked about him. And they were appreciative of what he was doing with their music.
I think the truth is kind of in the middle, a part of it. Elvis was really steeped in the tradition.
Elvis loved to sing gospel. Elvis had gospel tones.
Elvis was into race records, black music. He covered Big Mama Thornton because he could get that record somewhere else.
That's because the system was racist. They wouldn't allow Hound Dog to be a hit from anybody but Elvis.
I don't see Elvis as stealing. I see Elvis as being a useful tool for an industry that was stealing and extracting black art.
I agree. And so for me, it's like, was Elvis interpersonally racist? Everybody I've ever spoken to by Elvis has said no.
They've said he actually was good with black people. And better than black culture.
And deeply embedded in black culture. And what we started to see, just like with Tommy Hilfiger, was these rumors and fake quotes.
Only thing a black could do for me is shine my shoes. These things Elvis never actually said.
Just like Tommy Hilfiger never said like I don't want black people wearing my clothes. That was I was about to say that was a very pervasive rumor that followed him around.
I don't know about that one. I'm rolling with I was outside back then.
I if I'm believing he said that. Well I mean Tommy Hilfiger? I can't I don't know what he thought He didn't say that It was a quote attributed to him that was fake He might have felt that, I don't know him But I'm saying he didn't actually say that Tommy ain't my motherfucker But with Elvis I don't want to be capable of Elvis That was about Tom Silverman The biggest thing about Elvis to me is that there were so many other black artists who were far more talented, far more gifted.
You hear Quincy Jones talk about that or even talk about the Beatles, you know, talk about Ringo Drummond. Like, there's a way that, like, he just became a symbol for something that he wasn't that talented at.
But Elvis also was phenomenally talented. Elvis was a wonderful singer and a good artist.
You know what I mean? He just wasn't who we thought he was. You know what I mean? So I don't want to call him a racist, but I would say he's part of an industry.
Well, who did we think he was? Him? The king of rock and roll. He was stealing shit from blacks that couldn't get on the mainstream stage.
Like he could get on the mainstream stage. It didn't necessarily mean that I'm not fucking with the black people.
It just mean, they would take literally like, Joe could perform a record. Like in the 20s or 30s.
Joe could perform a record. They could take the whole fucking record and make the Beach Boys or somebody else go re-sing the song.
And so because Joe wouldn't get mass, what is it, distribution? Mass anything back then. Back then, mass anything.
Couldn't do a show. You might have only heard Joe locally.
And then now you hear the same exact song that Joe might have wrote and sung nationwide on some other fucking. Now, I do want to I want to be careful with the term steel, because I do know for some of those songs, the original black artist is still credited as a songwriter, still receiving publishing.
Whether or not they got fucked in publishing is a whole different thing. We're talking about systematic shit as opposed to like Led Zeppelin, for example, who were straight up taking blues records.
Right. And not crediting anybody.
There bit of a difference. From what I heard and understood back then, you wouldn't even know.
Elvis is stealing some shit. Swag, man.
He more was saying Elvis ain't shit. You was coming to the club, seeing how we moved, seeing how we were singing.
You took that shit and you took it to mainstream America. And me, I see that blueprint very much prevalent today.
For sure. So Elvis is my earliest knowledge of that happening.
For sure. That.
For sure. But there was a guy that was moving like him.
I don't know who came from it. Jackie Wilson.
Right? Yeah, Jackie Wilson. Jackie Wilson.
They had a little Richard, Chabby, Chucker, and all. And then I heard when Jackie Wilson got sick, because remember, he was in a coma for a bunch of years, Elvis helped him out.
Thanks. Yeah.
Do you have Elvis tattooed on you? No. But you do have white people tattooed on you.
I do. Who? Three.
Raise up your shirt. He's got like a Mount Rushmore on his chest.
I didn't know this, but this is fascinating. Who? No, it was, okay, hold on.
Frank Sinatra? Are they really white people or is this like a Jesus? No, white people. Paul Newman.
Oh, no, wait. You said, are they really white people? No, it's like real white people.
No, me like, you know, like some people get Jesus thinking. Before I found out James Stewart was racist, I got James Stewart.
I got Cary Grant. It's movies.
Y'all are fucking with me today. I swear to God.
Show him, son. No, I'm not showing him.
I don't need to see it. I don't need to see it.
He got a tattoo on the track. He got a tattoo on the track.
He got a tattoo on the track. He got a tattoo on the track.
You said it? It's from the movies and A Fair to Remember and what's the other movie where you've been? It's A Wonderful Life. It's A Wonderful Life.
It's A Wonderful Life. It's just scenes that meant something to me that I was a wonderful place.
Okay, and move it right along. That's all we'll allow.
I'm a cover though. I'm a cover now.
Do y'all want to tell you? I'm talking about Marvin Gaye. I was about to say while we're on the topic.
I was trying to make a segue earlier. I was hating.
I was disgusted to you, motherfucker. I'm about to put Marvin Gaye on my body, nigga.
Watch yourself. I'm coming.
You would be the first man. Oh, shit.
Hey, you be gay whistling, yo. You be gay whistling.
How is that gay whistling? Stop gay whistling, man. Nobody putting no Marvin Gaye for any...
Stop. The whole point of the podcast is they're making me...
Wait, so you're offended by, at the thought of having Marvin Gaye on you, but not by Rod Stewart or whoever the fuck you call me. Rod Stewart.
I am offended. I'm so much Carrie Grant.
You should cover up that Jimmy Stewart with Marvin Gaye. I am, I am.
No, I am. I'm Terrence Stewart.
Terrence Howard says... Put Tupac on your chest, nigga.
Terrence Howard says he did not accept a role to play Marvin Gaye because of rumors that Marvin Gaye might have been gay.

Terrence Howard is quickly becoming one of my favorite people to speak on podcasts.

Whether he's telling the truth or lying, I don't really care.

At this point, it's just entertaining to listen to.

He's been saying shit.

Yeah, he's going to get you one every week.

But I could definitely see Marvin Gaye.

I think Quincy Jones even mentioned this in the interview. He said he was fucking somebody.
I know a man who was in a relationship with Marvin Gaye. Oh, wait.
So we uncovering some shit. Yeah, I know a man who was in a relationship with Marvin Gaye.
Really? Yeah. A relationship or was he just like...
The side beast. Blown out.
If you beep it, I'll tell you who it was. Oh, shit.
Definitely bleep that. Cover your mouth.
Cover your mouth. Cover your mouth.
No, because they read this. I had a funny joke.
Okay. Yeah, he was fucking his...
Okay, you'll have to keep going. All right.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. That's a relationship, not just...
Yeah. Well, I have Terrence Howard's quotes here.
It was during an appearance on Bill Maher,

a club random,

and he revealed that he once turned down

playing Smokey Robinson in a biopic

because he was already working with Lee Daniels

on potential Marvin Gaye project.

However, things took a turn after Quincy Jones

allegedly confirmed to Howard that Marvin Gaye was gay.

I could not, Howard said,

explaining why he ultimately felt like

he wouldn't be able to play Marvin Gaye.

They would have wanted me to do that, and I wouldn't have been able to do that. No, because I can't fake it.
And so he said, I can't play that character 100%. I can't surrender myself to a place that I don't understand.
That's funny, because if I had for Hustle and Flow, I thought he was gay. Really? And Hustle and Flow? And Hustle hustle and flow what made you think that

I think it was gay

hustle and flow

really

gestures

I think a lot of that shit

from pimp land

can be interpreted

the mannerisms

of a lot of pimps

are effeminate

they got a lot of

effeminate mannerisms

and a lot of pimp shit

I'm not dare saying that

about Terrence Howard

by the way

I'm not playing with him

like that

got it

but anyway

yeah

that was intriguing

and I believe Quincy Jones

I'm going a pimp shit. I'm not dare saying that about Terrence Howard, by the way.
I'm not playing with him like that. Got it.
But anyway, yeah, that was intriguing. And I believe Quincy Jones.
I believe certain black people when they talk, I believe them. Quincy Jones and Little Richard, they're on the list for me.
I mean, Marvin Gaye wasn't gay. I mean, it was complicated.
And I find it fascinating. Oh, it was like that Tank thing.
It's Marvin Bye. It was like when Tank said you could suck a dick and not be good.
And shout out to Tank. On the right way.
Still wants us to go. Please leave the gays alone.
Yo, I'm lost. I'm lost.
Oh, the gays family. I was like, leave the gays alone threw me off.
So, backing up. Marvin Gaye.
Or not. I said backing up.
Not backing up. backing up Children I'm surrounded by children Where's the gorilla? Marvin Gaye Obviously dated women He dated Anna Gordy Jan He dated Barry Gordy I mean we know the whole story About Marvin Gaye And his dating life right A lot of it But there are a lot of people In Hollywood Who said that Marvin also had dalliances with men and what's ironic to me is

his dad was a crossdresser

and part of why Marvin Gaye

his father Marvin Gaye Sr

just G-A-Y-E at the end

was a crossdresser

if you ever watch a clip of Marvin Gaye's dad

to me he is the most obviously gay person in human history

but he and Marvin had a tug of war over that

so Marvin's whole life was about sexuality

more terms that I wouldn't use

exactly

I think the term was because he disrespected his mother

the in history. But he and Marvin had to tug a war over that.
So Marvin's whole life was about sexuality and demons. More terms that I wouldn't use exactly in this current term.
I think he had to talk one because he disrespected his mother. His father was disrespected the mom.
That's what led to him being shot. That's what led to him being shot.
But they had a long battle over his dad being closeted was part of it. They had a battle over him, Marvin, leaving the gospel wreck world and not just going to the R&B world or the soul world where he was at Harvey in the Moonglows and he was doing doo-wop stuff to when he became a heartthrob.
His dad thought that shit was too worldly even though his dad clearly was gay and would wear women's clothes. He'd put on his mom's clothes.
I told you, I'm real glad that I missed the 70s. Oh yeah.
Sometimes I get regretful like, damn man, I'm about to say you always couldn't fuck it early if I had a blast in the 70s. But on the flip side of that, I'm really glad I missed the 70s.
Some of that shit that was going on back then, like all of this Marvin Gaye shit that he talking about, fucking Bobby Womack doing all that shit and then having a song talking about, I wish he wouldn't trust me so much. That's kind of crazy.
Fucking homeboy with the grits. Nigga, I shouldn't I shouldn't be I'm not gonna be alive in no decade where a nigga gonna take a hot pot of grits and throw it in my face that's not gonna happen to me that's gonna be the end of the house's experience you think that's not happening today all of the shit that was going on in the 70s is happening today he's not all the way around I think it's a lot more creative in the 70s I don't know I think it's a lot more creative in the 70s.
I don't know. I think it's a lot more creative in the 70s.
I think it's more creative in the 70s. It'd be on camera now.
Yeah. Niggas ain't even mean bitches.
And we got resources. Niggas can't make grits today.
What's that grit? You ever wake up at your girl and make some grits? What's that grit? Anyway. That Marvigate biopic is going to be fire.
I mean, mean they keep trying my thing with Terrence Howard is were they gonna expose in the movie that he was gay absolutely Lee Daniels was at the helm of that ship hell fucking yeah it was gonna be a fully flushed out story complete with probably some salacious gotcha you know gay sex scenes a thousand percent how do people how do people know right there was no we would have been in that piece you know how these days we have social media we have phones right back in the days how do they know were they flaunting it in front of each other I think how did Quincy know that rats and snitches they get the same way Quincy be at the same parties so they were fla in parties. I'm out flaunting it, but you probably see them necking over in the corner somewhere.
Plus there's drugs and alcohol and shit. Watch the studio 54 though.
I watched that already. I say y'all I'm going downstairs with Grace Jones.
Y'all be back. What? If Grace Jones tell me to go downstairs at the party, I'm going.
going are you fucking crazy I respect you what's up and I'm not going back I'm trying to keep us down here too no I'm always upstairs in that interview Bill Maher said something to Terrence Howard he said he wasn't gay some guys just get so much pussy you just be like fuck it whatever I'm gonna fuck a guy's asshole what do you make of that? What did y'all make of that comment? I want to know that number. A lot of people say that.
Let me know. They fuck so much women that what's the number? I'm done.
Let me know. What? 99, a hole is just a hole.
No, please ain't. I'm just reiterating what you were saying.

Don't say those old school lines, though. I said at 999, if the thousandth person is going to make you do some bullshit, I'm stopping right here.

Stop with your old school lines.

Crazy.

I'm good.

But we support people living however they want.

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No, I get get it but he can embrace being a woman beater he has no problems with that I feel like that's maybe what you're saying yeah he said dating a teenager and dating a teenager yeah because he's got he's got to get romantic with that teenager if we're going according to the story with the relative of his wife yeah I mean this is artistic. You got to get in a lot of funky places.
You know what I'm saying? Saying if you have like a moral, if it's like morally abhorrent to you to play a gay man, but you don't have a problem portraying a wife beater. And luckily for us, it's my favorite time of the show.
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Indeed. Y'all want to talk about the draft a little bit? I know we did last pod, but now he's actually drafted Shador Sanders, fifth round.
I need y'all opinion on it because I'm not a football person, but when we were here last. Oh, shit, wait, before we do this.
Off the Marvin Gaye conversation you were having, do you listen to Marvin Gaye still? Do I listen to Marvin Gaye? Yeah. Yeah, I do.
Okay, back to Shador. Yeah, and the reason, just to answer for the implicit critique there, is some of it is about the error, you know, and some of it is about, like, what is the limit? Like, for me, like, sex abuse is the limit for me.
That's just my line. It's an arbitrary line.
Somebody says domestic abuse is theirs. I'm cool with that.
Don't listen to James Brown, who also beat up Tammy Terrell. Don't listen to Miles Davis, who beat up Cicely Tyson.
I mean, we could do that down the road. Why don't you stop telling people all this? This is in all these women's biographies.
I'm not. I wasn't there.
God damn it. But like, I'm good with that.
I just have my arbitrary line. Mine's not right.
It's just my arbitrary line. Okay.
Nothing wrong with that. Yeah.
You ain't cutting off that sexual head. You trying to find an educated way to say, nigga, we playing I want you, boy.
You got the flats. Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.
Niggas ain't taking that Marvin out there. But anyway, all right, Shadur, drafted, fifth round, you were saying.
I was saying that when we were here last time, he hadn't been drafted in the first round. And I asked you all, was it football? Was it personal? Was it race? You know, because I don't, again, I don't know his talent because I don't watch football.
The next day, second round, third round, fourth round, it started looking really funky. But then i read some reports and i'd heard some things from people on the ground who were reporters um and they were saying he had terrible interview he was acting like he didn't he was acting like he didn't want to um he was going to dictate the process and then other people just said he just didn't have the talent to justify all the headache um and so i started to say, shit, I don't know what, again, I don't know what's right.
And I heard people like Bomani Jones, who I respect his opinion on this, say, you know, maybe we should question why he was projected to go so high in the first place. Maybe he was never a first-round pick in the first place in real life to the people who were actually doing the drafting.
So, like, with all that information, do y'all feel different about saying that this wasn't about football? Well, my original stance was all things are true. Right.
That was my original stance. The fifth round was egregious to me, but...
Yeah, I still don't see our fifth round. I think his family plays a part.
I think him being a distraction plays a part. I think him blowing off the entire draft process plays a part.
He didn't do no pro day. He didn't do the other thing over here.
Everybody else did. I do believe he was arrogant.
I do believe there were bad interviews. I don't believe that that quarterback that the Browns took in the fourth round would pick 99 is better than him.
No, he's not. I don't believe that.
There were a few quarterbacks taken that just highlight some other things. So I'm not saying that Roger Goodell sent out an email like that rumor that's going around now saying that he told teams to take him off of the draft board.
I think that the Cleveland Browns, when they look back at their faces when they drafted Shador and how stoic they looked and just playing in the face, I think that may come back to haunt them at some point. It just looks like, from the optics of it, it looked like there were things that had nothing to do with football that played a part.
I think everything that everybody had to say on the topic is true. And it's true that he may not have been a first-round pick originally.
It's true that we might have bit the marketing bug, right? It's true that, listen, Deion had Gillian, everybody else come down to Colorado every week it looked like a movie they went from one win to nine wins like you see how it could get you see how it could get most of the people that I'd watch that are like real real like draft people like that's what they do for a fucking living said that talent wise he was probably like a second pick, although most people probably still had him in the first round because of the value of a quarterback position. Yeah, fifth round was absolutely crazy to me.
I thought for sure he was going to go in the second round. What I don't get is, like you said, talent-wise, second-round pick.
Football is still business. So there are some teams that he'll get people in the seats just because he's here.
We ain't necessarily going to win, so I don't understand it going all the way to fifth round. But he has to be your starter, right? You don't want to use the first round to pay for a backup, right? I don't see him necessarily.
Put him in position to compete at least. Fifth round? The problem...
And it's teams that don't have... I'm a Steelers fan.
We don't have a quarterback right now. Yeah, and y'all also...
I don't get it. Y'all also are playing the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes and y'all don't want to piss off Aaron Rodgers by drafting a young quarterback that's going to get all the attention I think some of it one analogy that it reminded me of a little bit and y'all drafted Will Howard, I'm sorry Parks and y'all did draft a quarterback so y'all are amongst the teams that drafted a quarterback that wasn't Shour? No.
No. No.
Okay. No.
It kind of reminds me a little bit of the Tim Tebow situation. But that goes in the opposite direction.
I know, but listen, he's a good player, deserves to be on a team, but I think that a lot of teams probably look at like, hey, man, if he's the backup quarterback and he's going to bring all the – ESPN spent three straight days talking about nothing but Shadur Sanders. I see that.
Shit totally shitted on Cam Ward. That's going to be my next point is that Cam Ward should be getting a lot more attention and praise because he's a really good fucking quarterback and deservedly went number one.
Anyway. It reminded me of Tim Tebow and a lot of teams probably don't want the distraction.
Tim Tebow, it reminded me of what's Homeboy, the black dude that I've sold a doc on? Michael, what is it? The gay dude. Or.
Michael Sam? Oh, Sam. Yeah, who was a much better player than where he was drafted.
They were waiting to kind of see the NFL's position on it. All right, what y'all going to do with Homeboy? They won all these awards.
That's clearly good, but might come. I think I ain't hear what y'all said on Friday.
That's not fair. No, no.
To be clear, you're not saying he was going to, okay, I don't got to clean it up for you. Not at all, buddy.
My post here, I don't play. I don't play.
Clean it up. We had your back, but I was like.
that won't even be there play magic didn't have any they can play anyway I think I think similarly to the Bronny conversation I think you gotta have a sports conversation and then you gotta have a societal conversation I think from a sports standpoint I think he's He's good. I think the shit that, I don't like that the media is trying to downplay his talent.
For sure. I think that's a justification on him not being drafted over some societal shit.
Yeah. That boy threw for over 4,000 yards.
Yeah. They went from a team that had one win to four to nine with a shitty O-line.
Like, what he accomplished in Colorado is outstanding. And I hate the fact that they try to downplay that a little bit and make him seem talentless or like he's lacking in talent.
I think that's whack. Why do they keep highlighting his arrogance? What are they saying is his arm, his slow release, things that you can't necessarily work on that won't get better.
What do you say to that? I think that if you put people in the right situations,

it's always Knox on talent, right?

I think it's always, oh, he too short.

Oh, this guy's this.

Oh, this guy's that. Like, they used to criticize black quarterbacks,

periodically, saying that we couldn't read defenses fast enough

or we didn't have the mental fortitude and aptitude

to play the quarterback position.

They would make great quarterbacks cornerbacks in safeties.

That was tough.

You get what I'm saying? So I think the Knox— We don't have to do... They drafted four Colorado receivers.
Yeah. One of his receivers...
They drafted all of the Colorado... Won the Heisman fucking trophy.
Somebody was throwing them the ball. For sure.
But sometimes... His tape is his tape.
Sometimes that can work against a quarterback. But instead of the receiver makes sure the good.
That your receivers are that good? It's a possibility. And there was a lot of yak

going on there.

Don't play behind

arguably the worst offensive line

that exists in college football.

And when he wasn't hurried

or under pressure,

his completion percentage

was almost 80%.

Yeah, they turned that

and he has a lot of tackles for loss.

But dog,

look what they do.

Look what's happening out here.

Now,

that to the side,

I don't think it's tough

to recognize when someone has a focus issue. i don't think it's tough to recognize when someone has a focus issue i don't think it's that tough if i'm interviewing you for a gig and i know what this gig is going to call for in the next two years like that clip between cam ward and shador where cam is like yo i just want to be a football player dog all that extra shit i don't care about it when you google me I wanted to say American football player not rapper he was like yeah you got everything handed to you you did this you did it this way don't worry I'm trying to do it this way it just highlighted the difference in attitude for what the next step is going to call for they said he had a horrible Giants interview they said that interview was atrociousadour.
They said that interview was atrocious. Yeah.
And I'm a Giants fan, so I've seen Dable have those quarterback meetings, and he ain't playing in there. Yo, draw it up this scheme.
Draw it up that scheme. All right, show me when X is W.
All right, turn Y to... He ain't playing, so if you unprepared in that, and the report is that not only was he unprepared, but he had an attitude when got called for if that's true because I'm not just putting that on a black man without knowing but if that's true yeah it ain't hard to see why people would be like you know what nah and with the coaching carousel that's going on now I gotta draft you and have your dad waiting in the tuck to where every time I lose a game, my head coach is under fire because Deion Sanders is waiting.
I could see why teams did that is all I'm saying. And I still think race is involved.
I was going to say, don't you think that that actually could have preceded him walking in any door? Yes. All of what you just said.
He didn't make it any better for himself, though. That's what we're saying.
All of that could have preceded him walking in any door. Yes.
All of what you just said. He didn't make it any better for himself though.
That's what we're saying. All of that could have preceded himself but then you walk in there and be like, what I was told was that he pulled the D on in one of them interviews where it's like, yo, I'm not even going to be available.
I'm just talking about confirmation bias. If you already have an impression based on the marketing campaign that's been done around this kid and you think that he thinks his shit doesn't stink and his father's a fucking pain in the ass and you really actually don't want to do this interview and he says anything that's going to be No, words and actions got to line up.
They don't have to, but I think that... Well, when they don't, it's going to be recognized.
The Giants, the last thing the Giants wanted was for Shador to have a fucked up interview with Dwell. The Giants spent the last 17 months looking at this kid.
Teams got their best people spending money invested on finding out everything there is to know about your life. So hearing something is one thing.
You coming in the door smelling like last night. Your eyes looking like you didn't get on sleep.
I'm not talking about Shador now. I'm just saying things that people are looking for that are demanding things out of you for the next the next level yeah nah this is deeper than just rumors I think I think I think um we're the race dog he had part I'm sorry ish he had parties set and I'm not saying something is wrong with this but there are people that think something is wrong with this he had parties set up for the whole weekend of the draft.
That's cool.

Being black is not a monolith. So if you want to celebrate that way, cool.
But when Cam Ward is get drafted and go tucking, focus, looking at video, getting with receipt, it looks different is all I'm saying. And he didn't show up and do a small.
It wasn't like he showed up and just had a rude interaction. He didn't know the play.
He had to come in. It would be like if you came in and read a script and you hadn't read it.
And you just said, I'm just going to wing it. Yeah, yeah.
Like that's what he did. And then got an attitude when he's like, why you read the script? You know what I mean? It's that level of unpreparedness.
That's a lot. But do I think that he's going to eventually start in Cleveland this season? Yes.
Do I think that trust God at all times? Do I think that he sounds a lot more humble since? Yes, I believe the NFL tried to humble him. Yes, I also believe it worked a little bit.
And he now sounds a little more humble. I think when you have, it's a few things.
I things I believe they I'm sorry I believe he fell into probably one of the better spots that it was to fall in Cleveland who ended up trading back do you still ends up with him do you think that his father cosigns his arrogance I think that his father is the best person in the world to prepare him for what is going on right now, the same way I feel about LeBron and Bronco.

I think that, to your question,

I think that... Because don't you think his father would have told him,

yo, nigga, get your shit together,

we're not doing that, you represent the family.

I think yes, to answer your question.

He did his father.

Flat out, yes.

I think it's nuanced.

No, because his father was part of the problem.

His father was on interviews saying,

I'm going to make sure that my son does not go to certain teams. He did that in more than one interview.
He did that for two years straight. He's also said, yo, be clear.
We don't need the NFL. We rich already.
When you start saying shit like that publicly, then you got to take what comes with that. You can now tuck your tail and say, yo, they treating us wrong, even though they are treating them wrong.
But a lot of times, all right, you don't need us. But the wrong is warranted.
Cool. If you don't need us, cool.
If it's true what you said, then the wrong would be warranted. No, because I still think it's based on...
If you're saying that we don't need the NFL, what do you mean, though? I still think it's based on the talent in the NFL and I think this kid... So why say that? I think that's just a piece.
Yeah, but why say we don't need the NFL, we rich already. I'm a great...
You got to stay with, but I think that if you're drafting a football player that you think can help your organization win, I think then those things should precede some of that stuff. I got, okay.
I saw Johnny Manziel, dog. I saw, what's the other white kid? Baker.
Baker Mayfield. Nobody questioned their arrogance.
Nobody questioned that these boys were niggas that was unconventional, that was flying off the handle, that was acting like rock stars. They seen years in college.
Really? I hate that we do this. I have to respond to that.
If they did that, Joe, then he has a point. One, I'm not going to do that because I hate that we do that, and we do that a lot.
So I'm not comparing this black band to none of these white people. No, I don't care about them.
Two, in the event that I did that, Shadour Sanders was not Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manziel in college. He wasn't, but...
He couldn't tie Johnny Manziel's shoes in college. So they were fire like that.
Yeah, that's the argument. Both of them were so good to say that.
No, both of them was good. No, Johnny Manziel, y'all better go watch it all the time.
And he was doing that on crack, nigga, whatever he was doing. To your Manziel point.
You can't say that. No, he did.
What? He right. He rode out of bed on every drug from fucking Friday night.
What? No sleep. Benadryl.
Stop playing with Johnny Manziel. Wow.
Hung over. Look, to your Manziel point, look how it worked out for him in the NFL.
He flamed out. He only played two years.
So now them teams can look at it like, all right, we saw this before. We're not risking this again.
Shador Sanders is not on drugs, bro. I'm not saying on drugs.
I'm just saying. When you start talking about things in their totality, talk about them in totality.
Okay. My nigga, it's a drug addict.
Fame is a drug. I'm not disagreeing.
If I'm an organization, if I'm just saying. When you start talking about things in their totality, talk about them in totality.
Okay. My niggas are drug addict.

Fame is a drug.

I'm not disagreeing.

If I'm an organization.

If I'm an organization only.

Back to focus.

That's what I'm saying.

If I'm an organization and you come in with the big fucking chain smelling like bond number nine and Shinsaya is next to you.

That's all my hood wanted to know.

My hood didn't care about none of this. My hood wanted to know, is he fucking Shinsaya? Shinsaya, nigga.
Shinsaya is next to you. That's all my hood wanted to know.
My hood didn't care about none of this. My hood wanted to know is he fucking Shinsaya? Shinsaya, nigga.
Shinsaya. Any high level college athlete showed them day two.
She wasn't there. Any high level college athlete is arrogant.
Any high school high level nigga is arrogant. But that's the point.
Go to these AAU tournaments with these high school kids today. These niggas is rock stars.
Yeah, but if only if it only comes through with him, that might mean his arrogance is so much that even among arrogant people he's top tier. Oh no, he may be.
My father's Deion Primetime Neon Deion Sanders. And I was making seven million dollars.
I was making five million dollars in college. So I'm not disagreeing.
I'm saying you got to take all of the things. I think that what they did, you land where you land based on what you did.
I'm not defending it. I'm just showing it from two separate perspectives.
Would you say that some athlete's parents could be a detriment to your career? Yeah, I know that firsthand. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.
What I'm saying is this. Football-wise, he deserved to be higher than a fifth ringer.
Yes, yes. Now, so societal, the shit that y'all been doing could have played a part in that.
I think that the powers that be don't want to see this braggadocious black kid that don't need our money. When you don't need our money, quote unquote, it's a liability to them.
You can't be controlled as much. You know when I saw the arrogance play out, not to change the topic, but the prank.
Oh, that was disgusting. That's where I saw the humility.
Not the arrogance. The arrogance came out too, because he was like, yo, about time? Well, so a couple things happened with it.
I think all that is true, right? So for those that don't know, this white 21-year-old college kid decided to play a prank on Shador before he was drafted by calling and pretending that he was from the New Orleans Saints and saying that he was drafting him and then he said kind of like haha you're gonna have to keep waiting right

but but he kind of did say like it's about time let's make it I don't know what people say on a

draft call so I don't want to compare him to anybody else because I don't know I've never

heard a draft call before but for me I felt like that when I say the arrogance I meant the world

reading like he needed to be humbled like like the people I feel like that played into the joke too

like this guy needs to be humble and again a lot of people have been pranked for white guys, black guys. I'm not saying he's the first person.
It's not just a race thing. But watching him, watching that go down, at first I thought it was disgusting.
I thought it was shameful. I thought it was me.
Cruel is a better word. It was cruel.
And I'm like, I feel like people thought that it was going to go different because everybody thought that he was the one to do it to because he needed to be humble and I didn't like that I actually thought he handled it responsibly who the fuck's job is that to say we need to humble you and that's often what society does to black people and black men in particular who the fuck makes you the humbling authority get the fuck out of my face I thought more should have been done once they found out who the kid was yeah a thousand percent and I'm glad because they tried to trace it back to the Giants fuck out of here. He's the son of the defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons.
And yo, they had enough balls to tape it. Yeah.
And put it out. That's his whole generation.
Don't count if it's not on the internet. And according to dad, dad had nothing to do with that.
The kid got the number in the laptop that was left open and moved on his own accord what do you do to that kid what's the right response, he's 21, it's not illegal to do it, what do you do to him? before I get to what I do to the kid I gotta see what the organization is doing to me cause that's gonna determine what I do to do to this kid. Like, if I lose my job behind this, boy, when I...
I'm going to be the defensive coordinator, all right? I'm going to be on the offense. I'm running some routes.
I'm going to be on the offense. Yeah, but ultimately, I mean, some of that onus is on me.
I can't get too mad. I left my laptop with confidential shit open in my house.
Now, I'm still going to beat his ass. And hopefully you thought that you raised your child to have better morals.
He's not 12. He's fucking 21.
Bro, that's some cruel-hearted shit. He had Ole Miss.
My dad is with the Falcons. I'm running around like I'm that nigga and I can do what I want.
College, frat boy, maybe. Drunk white boy shit.
Shit ain't funny, but at all's your honor to be pumping that college shit. Go ahead.
As opposed to college? In college, it's another route to jail for some people. Oh, my God.
Or. Yo, since we talking football, did you see my guy, Jalen Hurts? I did.
From the Philadelphia Football Eagles, world champions. I don't know if y'all know that.
Yeah, but just do Seekwil What are we talking about? Saquon. Well, it's a nice comparison, right? Jalen Hurts, the Eagles went to the White House.
No, big up Saquon, nigga, from the Philadelphia champion. What'd you say? The guy we got for the New York Giant.
I don't know if he was a giant. That's all I know.
He was from the New York Giants. And y'all so happy y'all got him? So Saquon went to the White House.
Saquon went to the White House. Jalen Hurts did not.
He said he had a scheduling issue. He was getting to the White House.
Right. So the Eagles went to the White House.
He didn't go. Several Eagles players didn't go.
Shout out to them for being decent human beings. And I don't give a fuck.
Isn't that tradition though to go to the White House? Yes. It's tradition.
Not as of late. Not as of late.
A lot of teams have said that they wouldn't go. Some whole team.
Teams have declined since Trump. And I'm not going.
Saquon explained his reason for going. Scheduling issues.
No, no. Jalen said I didn't go for scheduling issues.
That's him being polite and respecting. Saquon said he respects the office.
Right. He said I respect the office.
He said he golfed with Obama. He golf like, I respect the office.
I can golf with anybody who is president. And they tore his ass up.
As they should have. Who tore his ass up? Why? Everybody.
That's terrible. It's ridiculous, man.
Some people respect the office, Mark. Why should I respect the office? I don't know.
You shouldn't, but some people respect the office. Some people respect what going to the White House means.
That's the same thing Nelly had to say. Nelly said I disagree with both of them.
I think they're both wrong. I understand.
Yeah, I think it's wrong. I don't think we have to respect the office, first of all.
I think that's something people say, right? It sounds good. It's a good PR move.
It allows you to justify doing fucked up things and just saying, well, I don't respect him. I just respect the office.
That's dismissive. It is.
Maybe. That's dismissive.
But I don't think so. I think with Saquon, I think he wants to be around powerful people.
I think he likes golfing with Trump. I think a whole lot of people like being in those circles, and they're justifying it by saying, I respect the office.
I don't think it's about the office. I think it's about the power.
There's lots of offices they don't go to that they can't. So then what if he goes in that situation around Trump and able to probably get in his head and influence or make change? Change the foreign policy.
I mean, change the foreign policy. I think whether we agree with him or disagree with him, that's his right.
Yeah, for sure. We think it's goofy shit, but everybody didn't grow up like us.
You know what I'm saying? So I don't necessarily know. I wouldn't have have did it but I ain't gonna knock him for doing it

I can't say he's wrong for something

and he I know for a fact he's an avid

golfer he's really

like he really plays plays

a lot of them football niggas they love him

he plays plays like but

I think I just think a lot of black men

voted for this nigga man

and it's the same logic that's my issue I think we can't

keep normalizing Trump and I think going to the White House

makes it seem like he's any other

I'm going to put it's the same logic. That's my issue.
I think we can't keep normalizing Trump. And I think going to the White House makes it seem like he's any other president.
It's just like when the correspondents go, I say we shouldn't be going to the correspondence dinner. We should be going to the while.
I'm saying I have that critique of everybody that normalizes Trump. That's all I'm saying.
It's not about him in particular. So Jalen Hurts, the quarterback, if Hurts can not go there, that's a great example.
I appreciate it. And I respect and appreciate him.
And I actually want to focus more on celebrating him. That's our side of that aisle.
You get what I'm saying? Like, everybody has their own independent opinions, whether it's about... Jalen Hurts is surrounded by black people.
Yep. Yeah, probably.
And he loves black people. From agent on down.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah.
Again, I wouldn't have went. It's a little different.
I wouldn't have went. Would you go ice? No.
If Trump invited us, Joe, would you go? Go where? White House. If Trump invites us to the White House to honor us.
I wouldn't go if Obama invited you? Nah. Mel and Flip, would y'all go? If Obama was there, yes.
Trump, no. How about you? I think I had a little sneaky invite to that big party Obama threw with all the black people.
You ain't go? I don't think I'd go. I would have went, but not because my mom.
No, she'd lose her mind. You care what she thinks? She'd lose her mind.
That's a good reason. His mom's? The way you said she don't play with that? She don't play.
I wouldn't want to hurt.

I did that enough.

As I got older, I tried to minimize how I come off and how she feel about it.

That started to happen when I came up here.

How I see how everybody was moving back.

At one point, I didn't care.

Like, man, I am who I am.

I do what I want.

But then when I see it bothers you.

You was a little nigga back then until you got to the JVP. You grew up.
Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You was a little flippy.
You was flippy. Hey, yo, I'm just saying, nah.
I meant to tell you, you didn't think about changing your name across your social handles to JVP Flip? Nah, hell shit. Hey, yo, you made that joke.
Nah, nigga. Real, like ASAP Fur,$AP Rocky.
Seriously. Are you crazy? Because Queens Flip is like whatever you was doing.
But JVP Flip is like a whole different flip. You got them niggas in there saying that they never heard of Flip before this and before that because of what we did on the last part.
No, nigga. I'm Queens Flip, nigga.
I'm going to keep my name. I'm not JVP Flip.
I want to get far away from that name. JVP Flip.
Damn. You just say, damn, son.
No, JVP Five. No, no, no.
I'm talking about the JVP Flip. Not the brand.
No, the brand I'm embedded in. Your business model says you want to be introduced to as many people as you could possibly be introduced to.
So all of this Queens jargon bullshit you've given me. No, you see, that's downplay.
You can stuff that shit in a sock drawer. If you're saying that because it's you, nigga, when you went to somebody else, you went as Joe Budden.
Nigga, when you went to any entity, you went as yourself, as you're supposed to. Same thing with me.
I was somebody. I have proof to, I have documentation that can show who I was and where my number was at.
Billion streams. Period.
If I didn't have that, it's different. Not saying that this haven't leveled me up.
It has. It has.
I was able to reinvent myself up here and I'm appreciative of it and be taken more serious. And what you're saying is not true about me, just to correct the record.
What do you mean? You didn't go to any place that's Joe Budden? I brought me with me everywhere that I went. That's what you said.
I just said that. Nah, but there was plenty of phases where I was Joe Budden from somewhere else.
There's plenty of phases throughout my career where I was. Well, shit, the first phase was we don't even know that's Joe Budden.
We know Pump It Up. Got it.
And then you become Joe Budden from Love and Hip Hop and Joe Budden from Slaughterhouse. I don't want to downplay.
Until you've introduced yourself to enough people to be able to say hey I'm Joe Budden and they know you from so you yeah but I want to correct it because you do that on some ego and pride shit but we shouldn't sleep on 5 million people listening to you and being new to you and introduced to you like that ain't something to have an attitude about that's something to be grateful about that's something to be appreciative of and say hi yo this is all the stuff I had going on before this. You may know me from here, but this is what's cracking with me.
Do I show up and come to work? Do I? Just to answer the question, yes or no, do I show up and come to work? Yeah. That's all that matters.
What I say here, how I believe in myself and how I want to present myself, it's not insulting to the brand or what's going on. As long as I show up, I work, and I get it done,

that's what should matter to you.

Says you.

Fuck all that internet shit.

That internet shit

is for just playing

into something with people.

I can say that

I have a right to say that

and have a right

to feel how I feel

as long as I'm not

disrespecting the brand,

disrespecting you publicly,

or disrespecting the organization.

I agree with that.

That's it.

Unfortunately,

it's my job to dictate.

Who? I don't want to say it again. It's your job to do whatever.
Y'all niggas laughing. It's crazy.
Stop. Leave me alone.
Leave me alone. I fucking would.
You right, though. Leave me alone.
I don't want to listen. Listen, because it did come off a way, and I was checked about it by some people who I respect.
Yo, that sounds crazy. And I don't want to come off like that.
That wasn't what I meant.'s just something, ego going back and forth with my brothers in the moment, but I'm extremely appreciative, because if I wasn't up here my rebrand wouldn't have been documented no one was letting me in the building, yo, we not letting you in then you'll really be on chicken again front front yo, we not letting you in here, we not letting you come in here there's nothing that you can do, I come here I want to be invited, no, it's not a tip that's when Ebro was throwing you underneath the tables and all that. Kicking you in the head.
All that shit.

Oh shit. He handled you a little bit.

I seen it. Are you crazy?

I seen it.

That's when you went up to our night and

Ebro picked you up.

And you couldn't really grab him

because your arms were little.

You know your shit was short. You couldn't really reach his throat.

It's alright.

I appreciate you allowing me to pay you.

Yo! Yo! When do I get an ISO

to talk about the pissed arms?

Take it.

I mean, should I do it now?

I maybe should have waited.

I should have done it during Pride's picks.

I don't want to call Jared Jack up.

Be clear, at the time of this recording,

game five has not been played yet. Mm-hmm.
call Jared Jack up. Be clear at the time of this recording game

five has not been played

yet.

By the time

you're listening to this, game five has been played.

Because it's tonight.

And I will be out of here by 730.

But boy did we

handle the pistons.

Took care of that.

Went down to Detroit. Let them know we was just fine on the road.
Some niggas played well on the road. 3-1.
Hey, Cunningham, Honey Baked Ham, or Ham from the Bodega. Niggas at five.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey there and everybody.

Big Sean was out.

Oh shit.

Baby face red niggas was outside.

So fucking hell nigga.

Get the fuck out of here.

And I love Detroit.

I would have loved to go to that game. And shout out to the no call.
I would have loved to love Detroit I would have loved to go to that game And shout outs to the no call I would have loved to that I would have loved to go to that game To say shout out to the no call Would be to say shout out to the whole game I'm just saying shout out to the whole game They wrestled the whole game That entire game And that's why I don't want to hear that shit Y'all be doing I don't want to hear that shit Y'all niggas asked for a physical series Every post Every post game interview Bickerstaff got up there and said this is how we want to play because we can play through it they can't looking at the game we be losing because they play through it and we just end up crying yo foul foul foul foul poetic justice poetic justice that they lost that game and we fouled them niggas good for y'all asses good y'all was playing I thought that was the Lions we was playing they was fucking us up y'all was it was a fuck both teams was fucking each other up now don't do that and if both teams have been fucking each other up all four games. No, I think they've been fucking us up a lot more.

They've been winning the free throw battle.

Jalen Brunson, who is the fucking NBA Clutch Player of the Year,

has not taken a free throw in the fourth quarter of the last game,

or I want to say the game before, but I want to fact check that first.

So, yeah, I don't want to hear that free throw shit.

You niggas want it physical.

It's physical.

The ref missed it.

The NBA said it was a foul.

Guess what? Game over. Game over.
Back to physical. The ref missed it.
The NBA said it was a foul. Guess what?

Game over.

Game over.

Back to time.

Back to 34th Street we go.

Boy, I hate that shit, though.

I ain't going to hurt you.

Hey, back to 33rd.

I hate that shit when they come back afterwards and say, yeah, we supposed to call that foul.

I don't like it either.

Well, nigga, some of us had something on that.

Yo, listen.

What the fuck are you talking about? I'll take it past the Knick game. I didn't think that Denver won that game that they said Denver won.
With the alley-oop? Yeah. Balls out his hands.
You must got the fucking sphere cameras. You got a different camera than me.
I saw a fingertip on the ball with the timing spot. Red light.
The ball's out his hands. I'm open to being wrong about it because there may be another angle that I didn't see.
But from what I saw, it looked like his finger was still touching the ball. And if I was a Piston fan, I would feel the way right now.
I would feel the way right now. That was going to be my question.
Would you be as open? Of course I would. But I would understand it.
I would understand it. They fucking each other up.
This is a different type of series. They fucking each other up.
I will say that. And that's not where you lost the game.
Which I'm going to call it, he getting more superstar treatment, though. Who? Bronson.
He should. Everybody else not getting it.
As he should. And I think Cade is, but as he should.
You know what? They fucking Cade up. Now I'm calling Jarrett Jack.
I wasn't before. They fucking Cade up.
I wasn't before. Bronson initiates a bunch of that contact and be going, getting a bunch of calls.
Now I am. I wasn't before, but now I am.
I am now. JJ ain't answering my phone.
That's what I mean. Yeah.
Yeah. That's right.
No good. I want it documented that he's not answering.
No, has been. No, no, no, no voicemail.
I know that it's being forwarded. You ain't got to tell me.
I called because it would be forwarded. Oh shit.
Again, shout to Detroit. Shout to Detroit.
Real good season. Bickerstaff may even be coach of the year.
But Cade Cunningham, Palace of Buckingham, you can bring the summer sand. Nixon 5.
What the fuck are they talking about? I saw you wrote that. Yeah, Nixon 5.
Took me a while. Took me 10 minutes.
I'm rusty. Took me a second now.
That stupid. Yeah, goddamn it.
What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? The fucking Pistons. Well, we got the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees.
We did? And I'm happy to see who's on this list. So we have Outkast and Salt-N-Pepa.
Oh.

Much, well, I mean, there's more.

I'll read the whole list. Yeah, read both of you.

Performer category is Bad Company, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Cindy Lauper, Outkast, Soundgarden, and The White Stripes.

Okay.

Musical Influence Awards, Salt-N-Pepa, Warren Zavon.

Musical Excellence Award, Tom Bell, Nicky Hopkins, Carol Kay.

Nice.

So, yeah, Chubby Checker's just getting in there.

But that was an influence or something?

Performer.

Oh, it was.

Chubby Checker's performer.

He hasn't been in the rock and roll all day?

Wow.

Some of this shit is crazy.

This is what I'm saying last time.

I rarely be mad at who gets in.

I just be fascinated by the order and the time it takes.

Yeah, like Chubby Checker's just in and so-and-so would be in five years ago it's wild to me that's insane really happy well congratulations for sure I like to see Salt-N-Pepa under influence we was just having that talk before we definitely were so I love that one pretty dope pretty dope I can't wait for the show I love the induction show where they bring right Did they film that? Yeah Televised right? Yeah It should usually be like four hours long but It'd be long as hell It's fire Also before we go any further I want to say rest in peace to Phil Robinson Phil Robinson many of you are familiar with from making the band he was one of the executives as well as an on-air personality that you would see. Phil Robinson passed away.
Rest in peace to Phil. And rest in peace to Dick Barnett, Nick Legend.
Shout out to the Knicks. So rest in peace.
Rest in peace to those brothers. I want to go back because we didn't talk about the, we didn't do much music last pod.
No, we didn't. And I didn't hear much music anyway.
But I want to go back and discuss this Young Thug record featuring Future Money on Money. Let's get it.
I think this record's incredible. You know what that means.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

He heard it in the spot.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

That's what it means.

I'm sorry, you guys.

It worked on them.

It worked on them.

I'm sorry.

It worked on them.

Don't apologize.

And let me tell you, that's halfway true.

That's only half true.

Just half.

I was outside a little bit.

I did hear this song outside but I was too occupied at the time to really give it my full attention so I went about my business you had the swishy pants on the next morning I don't recall the next morning no travel loop Not living like that no more. Congrats.

Sounds crazy.

Love that for you.

Now my travel lube bitches that know I used to have it,

they looking at me funny now because it ain't happening no more.

See your dog, for you to walk into a spot with lube in your pocket.

That's crazy.

Didn't you say no jar?

It's swishy pants. That's y'all painting me.
I got on whatever y'all want me to have on at this point. It's like Minecraft.
You have on an army outfit. You got lube in your pocket.
What the fuck you got on, nigga? That's poor. I don't have lube in my pocket.
Where you got it? Well, where is it? In the car. Okay.
It was in the truck. You don't know if your travel lube partner is even working tonight.
So when you determine that they're working, you go to the car and get it. Then your fancy bags have like a little pocket? Then you say, yo, pull up.
It's in one of the fancy bags. It's in a different bag.
Okay. All right.
Now you go get the other bag. The lube bag.
The lube bag. So you walk back in the strip club with the lube.
In the bag. In the bag.
Not in your pocket. That's very poor.
That makes it very different. And it's going to stain some of your clothes and the cleaners can't get that out.
You would know. So would you.
I wouldn't. Don't worry.
It's cool. I feel like lube, isn't it water soluble? Yeah, it's water soluble.
That's not true. Oh, yeah, shit.
It's oil-based. This is where I don't know.
You got the polyurethane lube. Silicon lube.
This thing got the Home Depot special. I don't even discuss these types of things with you novices.
You right. Definitely that.
So then the next day, I went and listened to this song and was like, oh, slept. It's crept by me.
Nobody else here heard your song. I heard it.
We talked about it.

Yeah, we did.

What'd y'all say about it?

We said it was cool.

It wasn't anything out of this world.

It's not cool.

It's cool.

It's not cool.

It's cool.

It's not cool.

Nothing we haven't heard of before.

No, yes it is.

From this.

Yes it is.

Okay.

It's a cool record.

Yes it is.

It's not cool.

It's cool.

You not cool.

Shut up.

I'm not cool.

It's all.

It's crazy, man. It's cool.
we talking about? That's the first thing that's different. We not chronicling crimes no more.
Actually, I just thought of the coolest way to tell you what I've learned from that trial I went through, which is I don't want nobody going to do nothing if I got to be the one tell you to go spin. That's a difference already.
You don't hear that? You don't think so? You don't care? I think this record is a great job of him post-trial is what I want to highlight. That's what I'm saying.

This hook is

fire. What he

talking is fire.

The beat switch is fire.

I like the beat in his verse.

I like the beat in his verse.

Future is future.

But nigga, out.

Boy. But nigga out the boy I don't know the name of it Fuck this little bitch last night and this morning

I don't know the name of it

Stop, stop, stop, stop

He's talking crazy

He's talking

Crazier than

The thug that we had a hard time

Hearing

Go play Dumb Dumb and Dumber

This is the same

This is a great, it's a good song

It's cool, they ain't do nothing

Outworldly

Thank you. Pam go play Dumb Dumb and Dumber this is the same this is a great it's a good song it's cool this is they ain't do nothing outworldly that's all I'm saying I'm not saying it's a bad record I'm not saying it's bad I'm not saying that boy know that shit I don't know what Dumb Dumb and Dumber that's the record that's the record no no that's hard that No, that was the first version.
That record is hard. With him post-trial.
It's him, Thug, and Baby. I mean, Thug, Baby, and Future.
It's Lil Baby's first single. But that's what I'm saying.
Like, I'm not saying it's the bad song. Yeah, but I don't know if we came in here on that one and gave it up to the degree of hardness that that record is too.
That's what I'm saying. Some of these records are coming out and because of maybe whatever he went through or because of the trial or that stupid ass mask he had on in that GQ interview, some of these shits is just sliding by.
Like I wanted to rewind and say, hold up now. I'm not going to keep letting these slide by.
That dumb and dumb shit's hard. That shit is crazy.
I don't know that I came in here and said none of that.

Sometimes it happens, though.

You come back and you catch a record like, oh shit.

This is cool.

Nah. Nah.

I can't. Swishy pants, though.

I can't.

Swishy pants give you mental clarity.

Don't worry, I got that new man coming up for you.

It's coming. No worries I got that new bed coming up for you I'm calling friends

Outside are you all crazy? I feel weird y'all niggas even sitting still like this. This is hard.
I don't give a fuck. This is hard.
I don't give little. All right, that's cool.
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
You know what I mean? Don't worry about it. It's dope.
There goes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Also, don't worry, I don't need y'all for a music review, you fucking lame asses. Let's see.
What else? I definitely heard that at review. What else? What else? What else? What else? I ain't put enough respect on Destin Conrad.
I didn't put enough respect on this Destin Conrad project. We came in here.
We just like, yo, he put some shit out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You didn't just put some shit out. He killed.
Hold up. I didn't hear this.
Hold up, man. I hear what you got.
And Destin Conrad, if you're familiar, he been on some smooth, mid-tempo, lover boy type shit. A lot of people didn't know that he was fucking talking about niggas when they was listening to the songs.
That's how smooth those songs were. That Marvin Gaye shit.
And I'm telling you, if any of you, any... Give it up.
It's been an opinion of mine for a while, Mark, that the gays might clear the straights and the verses. And that's growing more and more true in the newer crop.
I give you Kehlani, Destin Conrad, Jazzy, The Artist. I give you, I could go on.
There's a few of them out there, Frank. Serponite Feet.
There's a few of them out there. I ain't even getting there.
I'm just talking about the newer niggas. Oh, there's the new ones? Just the newer niggas.
Ombre. Oh, R&B you talking about? Yeah.
Oh, R&B for sure. Yeah, I'm only talking about R&B.
Okay. I'm not talking about R&B.
He ain't wrong with R&B. But on his debut, on Destin Conrad's debut, he upped the tempo.

Sound like he found Studio 54 at a right gay party.

And it's fire.

I ain't gonna lie to you.

Hold up, man.

All right, let this rock for a little bit.

Hold up now.

We ain't put the proper respect on this.

Shout out to Destin Conrad, friend of the show. Yo, come up in, man.
Stop playing. Oh, no.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Oh. Because you know what I'm saying.
You can hear what I'm trying to say. Thank you.
Oh Oh, man.

Stop playing with this boy, man.

This is Destin Conrad, man.

Bitches off this project.

Ay. It was gone.

That was fine.

Don't worry about it.

That was fine.

See, that's fine.

See the different reaction you got?

Don't worry about it.

That shit right there was gone.

Don't worry about it, though.

See what I mean?

Don't worry about it, though. I'm just here to show people good music.
That's all. Yes, sir.
The weather's getting nice out. Y'all know who the fuck we in for Some days I feel amazing Some days I wanna jump

Some days I wanna jump

Some days I wanna jump

This shit hard

Y'all better start playing with this boy right here

Jump

Jump

Jump

Jump

Hey

Let's go

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Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Woo.
So hold on. Chill, man.
You said the gays are clearing out the straights. Chill, man.
Lil Nas X is not on that, right? He wouldn't be a my list. R&B.
He's not R&B. He ain't got no slaps for me to put on the joint.
Yeah, I'm not even going to. Go ahead, y'all.
I got it. I got my whole life down.
Full crew in the house. I'm full crew.
Stop that. The thing is saying, go ahead.
I'm always there. Don't worry about it, man.
It's cool. It's cool.
Don't worry. Something playing.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's happening right now? That was cute.
What was that? What was that? That was cute. What was that? What was that just playing? Oh, just playing some heat.
Oh, that was Dustin Conrad again? That for three right there. I love Joan's soundtrack.
I wasn't mad at that one. Anyway, that Dustin Conrad album is available in your phone and on DSPs.
This is not a sleeper nor an ad. I got to check him out.
But that project right there, boy. And it's getting nice's getting nice out there.
There's some fire on there.

Let's see here.

We want to talk about this Mesa Hilton and Vato lawsuit against Mary J. Blige?

Yeah, I'm just playing some theme music for Mark,

just in case he comes back.

Mark, we got it, y'all.

Don't worry about it, man.

We got it on the down for you.

The call had to take that.

Woo! Don't worry about it man. We gonna hold it down for you.
Nicole had to take that. Ooh.

I know the song.

You gotta let it rock now.

Alright. For the longest time Alright For the longest time What in the hell? Where was we at? Where was we at? Where was we at? Quick aside In music Back to the party Drake What would be the next single conversation? I heard Die Trying Out A lot when I was out.
In Nashville? The one with the acoustic shit. Granted, guitars in Nashville probably makes more sense, but still, I could see how that would be the one.
Up-tempo, more pop feel. Die Trying.
I could see that one working. Yeah, for sure.
We'll let Jesse about that, buddy. Well, there's also a second song up on Party's page, so I think the numbers might be.
That might be indicators. You know what I saw recently? They were talking about somebody's going around asking the top 10 Drake songs from people in the crowd.
Sheesh. That's hard.
I was surprised that Best I Ever Had wasn't on the top 10. I wouldn't have it on my top 10.
Really? Personal top 10? No, but I could see why it would be on someone's top 10. That surprised me.
They had the list, and Hotline Bling was on there. Something from Scorpion was on there.
But Best I Ever Had wasn't on there. Is it because it's old? Hotline Bling is a top 10 Drake song? It's one of his most successful songs.
Yeah, see, we start talking that. A lot of people just care about the numbers.
Got it, okay. Yeah.
Got it. Like, I'm one of favorites.

Neither one of them are on there on my top ten.

Got it, okay.

Then I'm going to have some shit on there like Club Paradise,

which a lot of folk probably ain't even heard.

Gotcha.

Because it was one of the throwaways he put out.

Yeah, South Caldron.

Yeah.

Even though he did drop the care package with it up there.

Niggas heard it, man.

I don't know what that is.

You know what he heard.

No, I bet you didn't hear it. Nah, play it.
You've heard this. Club Paradise? I didn't hear it.
I don't know what that is. You know what if you hear it.
No, I bet you didn't hear it.

Nah, play it.

You've heard this.

Club Paradise?

I didn't hear it.

I don't.

What album was it on, Freeze?

Y'all ain't heard this.

No, they haven't.

Seriously?

Nobody in this room has heard this, but you know you in parts.

Hey, it was a good time back then. But you're out here doing your thing.
They don't know you. Sure they doing just nice.
Yeah, chill. That'll start to a whole bunch of other shit.
I didn't know you didn't hear that before. You heard that, man? Nope.
Never heard that before. You've heard that-ish? Hmm.
Okay. I know he's heard that record.
He was in the Club Paradise. You got away with a lot of shit back in those days, boy.
And that his old street name Yeah Hey, Perry Paradise Perry Perry with the green eyes That nigga old street name was something with nectar What? Those guys have a duck case If you see your old work when you with your girl,

do you act like you don't know them?

Nah, I speak.

You speak.

And if your girl see her old work

in front of you,

does she speak or does she act

like she don't know them?

I wouldn't know who her old work is.

What for her?

She wouldn't tell you?

Pick up and then hug.

She wouldn't tell you?

We're not going to get

into a conversation.

Go get the car, nigga. If my girl speak to a guy when we out, what am I going to say? Who that? Well, you're not going to be there.
You're not going to ask her who that was? So she says hello to somebody, gives them a hug, and doesn't explain who they are. You're okay with that? Long hug, too.
Pelvis to pelvis. Nobody girl going to give somebody a long hug.
Rubbing her back. Niggas always got to.
You don't think dude going to rub her back a little bit? But if he do that, then he, I see Ish saying something, but nigga ain't going to do that. Ish is going to be, he got to go, like he said, he ain't going to be right there.
So he's going to say, he waited until he went to the bathroom. I'm saying, Ish is so cool that when she see her old work and Ish it's gonna get the car, that's gonna be it.
Like, she's gonna say, do that, and then it's gonna be gone. It's don't care, nigga.
Don't let him. Don't let y'all spin that shit.
Oh, so what I'm saying, oh, so you that confident in yourself that you'll get ahead, man. Talk to your friend.
I'll be back. Okay, don't let this nigga influence you to be.

Fam, if I'm somewhere where my girl and my girl speaks to somebody, she say hi to somebody,

what the fuck are you talking about, nigga?

We moving.

No, no.

No, and catch up.

What's catch up mean?

Like, 14.

Every in a while.

They're going to stay there talk.

Hey, how you been?

Some teeth. Some teeth are showing.

They're going to talk for like six minutes.

Maybe, yeah.

Yo, the back teeth showing. Yo, can you hear? It's a hypothetical.
No, listen. The back teeth start showing.
Yeah. All right.
Back teeth just showed. He's too confident.
What you want me to say? He Polish, too. What you want me to say? She's not Polish, nigga.
She's not Polish. Watch your fucking mind.
She's not Polish. She's not Polish, nigga.
Whatever she is, he is, too. He Portuguese.
Now they start talking that shit around me. Oh, you want to know what they say? What do you say? Brazil? Brazil? Oh, here.
He's no b-d-d-d-d. He's no b-d-d.
No b-d-d-d. He's too cool for school issues.
Oh, here. He's no b-d-d.
He's no B-Daw. No Bobby B-Daw.
He's too cool for school. He's no B-Daw.
Your girl can't speak to nobody when you're with her? She can't, of course. No.
My wife can't. Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah. My wife can't.
But she's going to tell me who it is. You want to ask? No, she tells me automatically.
Well, that's something different. I do the same thing.
I'm not asking no questions. I think it's rude to see somebody hug them in front of my wife.
And not introduce them. That's something different.
You added the hugs. It seems fishy.
What if your girl introduced you as your profession? You added the hugs. What do you mean? Yo, this is the podcast.
This is for the Joe Budden podcast. This is for the Joe Budden podcast.
Who does houses? This is my contractor, right? This nigga that's my friend. The cabinets in the kitchen, he did this.
This nigga, I just went into business with him. Ish would lose his mind in there, nigga.
That morgue would turn into Red Dawn, nigga. Look, no.
Some people play like that, though, Ish. You know better.
Some people, boy, what if she pranking you and do that Just to see your reaction Or what if she said Yo this is my new boyfriend I haven't seen you in a long time Pablo This is my new boyfriend Ish What? What's new to you? It's relative Hold on give me Yeah, pop. How's your mom? It's me there.
It's turning to a lollipop. A blowtop.
It's all happening to you. Hey, it's going to go grab a Snickers.
They catching up, nigga. It happened.
It don't. To who? You.
I mean, niggas. You just said that your girl could speak to somebody and you don't care who she's speaking to.
I like that, but I just doubt that that's true. She wouldn't come and tell you, yo, this is my friend.
That's what I'm saying. She just gonna hug a random nigga and I say it.
If she tells me, she tells me, I'm not asking who that is. That's what you're saying.
I don't give a fuck who that is. Mr.
Portuguese. The prime minister.
He won Mr. Olympio over there.

Olympio!

He won it up, niggas.

I'm not sure.

Mr. Borchik.
Niggas slapped fire out you, niggas.

Say something to me right now, niggas.

Miss you tell him.

Yo, take your fat ass and come pull the car up, niggas.

I'm not sure.

Yo, you going to be standing there all out of shape.

The nigga ain't slapping me.

You crazy, nigga.

I'm not sure, bro.

You going to be standing there in your oversized t-shirt. And he police out.
That nigga got the tank on. And me.
You crazy, nigga. I'm a little scooter, bro.
You gonna be standing there in your oversized t-shirt. And he policed out here.
That nigga got the tank on. And he policed out here, nigga.
And he policed out here, nigga. And he shook your hand mad firm.
He hurt you. Hurt your shit.
Didn't you say something while I talk to your girl right here, nigga? In Portugal, nigga. I know.
Yeah, hold on. I know.
What you gonna do when he say, yo, your number changed? I'm asking you a hypothetical question. Because he had the old number.
Ask yourself that question. Oh, no, that wouldn't happen to me.
I know. She can't speak.
Yeah, that wouldn't happen to me. That's not true.
Joe, do that. What would you do if you overheard him say, yo, is your number still the same? Like you were wild out on him? Nothing.
Your foot is broke? Nothing.

Okay.

Yo, I'm not.

Scoot back to the car. I'm done.

That's the end of my questioning.

I'm cool where I'm at, bro.

That's the end of my questioning.

I don't have them fears y'all got.

I'm good where I'm at.

He's secure.

We all have different fears.

Shots fired.

That's true.

We all have different fears.

He's secure.

He's secure in his bag.

That's true.

Good thing.

Don't act like Shade.

He can't say hi to me.

Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Act't act like Chaudhé.
You'll stand there. Would you stand there and look? Yeah, you fucked up.
Something's wrong with you, yo. You'll stand there and look like...
What's your head position? Is it this or this? Y'all a turkey leg hug. Nigga be like, yo, remember the last time we had them greens? They was different, right? They not the same as last time.
He don't give up the energy that he allows somebody to buy. I don't think she would allow that.
And we wouldn't be a turkey leg hut because the owner would pour gasoline on competitive businesses. Whoever y'all at.
And then they caught him on video.

Stupid ass nigga.

Yo, nah. Yo, I do like this whole

niggas getting caught on video doing shit they wasn't

supposed to be doing. Like, why we got you

in the clearest black and white I ever seen

pouring gas. It wasn't black

and white, nigga. It was color.
Oh, the one

I seen was black and white. It was like the

eagle eye from the sky

zoomed in. They caught him and all his friends, porncaster.
You can't do that, though. Not competing business.
9-20-25, bro. Niggas is dumb.
Niggas just dumb. I said that was last year.
2024. Same shit.
All right. Same shit.
My last question to issue, and then we moving on. You got to answer yourself, too.
I'll answer everything you're answering. You can't just be throwing questions at me.
Why? I'm creative enough to think of questions. I know.
If he thinking something, I'll answer them. All right, so listen.
Everything went the way you envisioned it going. Money left, and y'all left.
Then the next day, you see that her following number went up. By one.
How would I see that? Huh? How would I see that? Through your peripheral. What she told you? What she told you? I don't do none of that, bro.
I'm not y'all. I'm just telling you, they followed each other the next day.
I wouldn't ever know. You don't care? I don't care, and I wouldn't know.
But you, but your ideology, that's out of sight, out of mind. What about you, Big Freeze? Exactly.
I wouldn't know Okay, now please But you But your ideology That's out of sight Out of mind What about you, Big Freeze? Exactly I wouldn't know I don't look it up, follow I don't know that Alright Okay What? Nigga Yo, some people Some people do not pay attention That's a smooth way To escape a hypothetical Alright, I'll play along With your hypothetical In the event That they follow each other The next day I don't care So Then what? I don't care I don't know how you found out Nig the next day. I don't care.
Then what? I don't care. I don't know how you found out.
Nigga Danny told you. I don't care.
Oh, shit, I got called Danny. I don't care.
And I just found out Danny's name ain't Danny. You're lying.
It's not. How do y'all know that? Because he called me yesterday.
Because I've been eating the shrimp and grits from Old Spot at least three times out the week now. We should be

talking. Oh, that Danny.

Yeah. Oh, I thought y'all

was talking about the other damn. Nigga, no.

Your friend Danny. Your friend Danny,

that ain't his name. I know that.

Wait, but what?

You knew Danny's name wasn't

Danny? Yeah. Yeah.
Why would I

know that? It don't even rhyme with Danny.

Not even a little bit. It ain't even close to Danny.
Not even the same letter.

Nigga went old, told me that I almost

dropped my shirt with Chris.

I'm fine. You can sit here and act cool

if you want, nigga. What are you talking about? I said, wait,

what? He said, yeah.

Danny named me the damn Danny.

I said, well, where'd Danny came from?

And he gave me the story.

Nigga, Danny was a rapper.

And that was his rap game and rap name, MC Danny-o. Nigga, that's how I felt when I found out this nigga ain't one ish.
It wasn't nothing close to ish. Yo, them niggas.
That whole crew is the the way they did shit. Danny name is like Ryan or something.
Mark or some shit. Nigga, he ain't a Danny in that shit.
Anyway, shout out to Danny, Mark. Shout out to Danny.
Oh, everybody. That's funny.
That's funny. What is wrong with y'all? What's wrong with who? You can't keep calling him Danny His name is Dan Danny And he don't rap no more Nigga the second you stop rapping The rap name You go Yo nah Come on For real The rap name The rap name Don't be too mature Y'all niggas stop I'm with you Nelly name Nelly name not Nelly He still rap Nigga what Don't rap nigga verse out.
Shut up, nigga. He performed at the inauguration.
He rapped. There you go.
Yo, if you tried to rap. Ice Cube named Ice Cube? It damn sure is.
Ish. Like, what are y'all talking about? He just put a song out last week, too.
Damn, niggas is known by what they know. Your name ain't Ice, nigga.
Oh, wait, time out. I still...
No, I can't say that. Wait, Danny still raps? I don't know what Danny does, bro.
Don't you stop... If he still raps, then I take away everything I'm saying.
I don't know what he does. If he's a rapper, it's cool.
I don't know that. You don't know if your best friend is rapping.
He's not my best friend, and I don't know if Danny raps. I think he's going to be hurt when he hears that.
Danny, you better still be rapping, nigga. If you are not, you not Danny no more.
You can't go by Danny, dog.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You go by Ice.

Your name ain't nowhere near Ice.

I didn't start, but that wasn't my rap name.

We talking about he got that name as a rap name

and it's not rapping no more.

Yo, you niggas with rapper names.

Yo, what's your Ice name?

What do you mean what's my Ice name?

My Ice name.

Where did that come from?

It came from something.

Tell us what, nigga. No.
Stand at the lamp.

It came from something. Never mind.

We can't have the conversation. Yeah, he's like, tell us his origin

story. Yeah, exactly.
It's fucked up.

That bet is funny, too. I know it's funny.

It's definitely supposed to be funny.

All I'm saying is, if

you create a rap name for

yourself and then stop rapping, you can't be that rap name no more Is that out of bounds to say? I agree It is? Sounds stupid Whatever you known for You just known for That's it Nigga nickname Whatever name you known for Nigga name is Flip You the only nigga that used your name as. Nigga name is Flip.
All right, but listen to this.

You're the only nigga that used your name as a rapper.

Let's try it this way.

You used to knock niggas out.

I didn't.

Your name is Knockout.

You got swept.

If you then go.

No, not even.

If you then go on a 20-year run.

You're a pacifist.

I'm not knocking nobody out.

Where no one has been injured.

Mm-hmm.

Should you still be called Knockout? I told y'all we went to the game, and I met Mark's man, and that nigga name was similar to knockout. I think it was Doudrop or some shit like that.
Because when he hits you, you Doudrop. They called that nigga that.
And I was about to say, a nigga named knockout that knocked a lot of niggas out you might think that nigga still got it in the mess

he can still be knocked

he can still knock

somebody the fuck out

KO nigga

yeah yeah

Danny better spit a verse

he better have a verse

and a talk

and now I want to know

Mark's street name

I need to know

everybody's street name

what was your street name

Mouse

oh yeah

cause you squeaked by yourself

oh

oh shit

okay

this nigga's tough

okay

Thank you. Oh, yeah.
Because you squeaked by yourself. Oh, shit.

Okay.

This nigga's tongue.

Okay.

This nigga turned crazy.

He called you the squeakster.

Oh, shit.

Watch your fucking mouth, nigga.

Watch your mouth.

What was your street name?

Ish.

That wasn't your street name, bro. What's your street name?

Lionheart, nigga.

What?

Yeah. I've never heard a single person call? Lionheart, nigga.
What? Yeah.

I've never heard a single person call you Lionheart.

All right.

You lying on his heart.

What are you proving the point?

You lying on his heart.

He's not in the streets no more.

He never was in the streets.

Nobody ever called him Lionheart.

Yes, they did.

How much you want back?

Nigga.

How much you want back?

Your yellow big bro lion?

Oh, shit.

It was TJ, which was my nickname, Trevor Jr. That's more like it.
And they called me Lionheart after. Why did they call you Lionheart? Niggas in streets.
Who's they? Who's they? How many they? How many? A lot. Alpo.
Call Webb or call Nitty right now and say, yo, what was my name before Flip? First of all, I'm not going to call Webb and Nitty online right now because they wouldn't like that. But I can call them behind the scenes and they can tell you that my name, they either call me TJ, Lil TJ, or they call me Lionheart.
I don't want to hear nothing about T or J. I want to hear somebody say, yo, we used to call our nigga Lionheart.
I don't even want to hear that. I want to hear somebody say, yo, what's up, Lionheart? Word.
I can call her, ask what was my nickname. Call anybody that's going to call you Lionheart.
I can call somebody right now and they'll be like, yo, Mouse, what up? A lot of people still call you Mouse. There's a lot of folks.
Alright, hold up. Do you know anybody that's gonna address you as Lionheart and Danny, you not Danny no more? Mel, did you have a street name? Jessica Rabbit, I guess.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
They did. Yeah.
It was. That's what they called me for like over a fucking decade.
Uh-huh. They did.
Nothing. Lucky nigga ain't picking up.
Yeah, the Wiz ain't in Oz no more, nigga. Lucky nigga ain't picking up.
You look at J.O.A. picking up.
The Wiz. I'm calling nigga now.
You lucky nigga ain't picking up, nigga. What's the origin story of Lionheart? Because I used to act crazy.
So you didn't get Tasmanian demo? All right, what's the next time? No, no, see, what it is is that when you, it's just somebody that keeps pushing the bounds and, like, I was little, so, but I wasn't afraid to do what I, So you were brave? No, he's editing his own Wikipedia page. No, I'm not.
I swear. Then call somebody.
I don't want to hear you. Little nigga, bottom line hearted.
Yo, stop listening to rap. Yeah, y'all niggas all hate this shit.
Yo, stop's all hate. Nobody called you lying hard because you just finished getting busy.
You just cleared something out. Are you crazy? That didn't happen.
They chased you out of 77 schools in New York. Hey, I still want to hear how they came up with it.
Oh, shit. Flip that.
Ew, how you cleared this? I never got chased out of schools. Yo, you got a lying heart.
You got the heart of a lion. You told me you had to leave out the back door when the niggas was in the- Because the crip niggas was in the front going to stab me, but I left.
But I didn't get chased at the school. I still went.
I still went the next day, nigga. All right.
We're moving right now. It's OK.
It's all right. See, that's y'all problem.
Y'all niggas ain't brave like me. Chill, L.A.
We not brave like L.A. Chill, L.A.
You call me L.A. and they call me Lil' Horny, too, at one point.
All right. OK, we move.
Well, that one tracks. That one tracks.
That one tracks. L.A.
J.O. Lil' Horny.
Yeahdling duck You crazy You know You know the niggas We was around Watch your fucking mouth Yeah they was They was lying hard And on top of the You was the lamb Oh shit Nigga you was the white boy trying to be black. Listen, in order to be around them, niggas,

you had to do something, bitch.

Yeah, shut up.

Back.

Fuck it you talk about, liar heart.

You were lying, all right?

Black podcasters, yo.

I'm telling you.

Yeah.

The nigga at the top.

Who?

You.

Is the most honest nigga in podcasting.

What?

Yes.

About the things you want to be honest about.

Not even the...

He'll tell the truth about the shit he want to tell the truth about.

It's just the other shit that...

Joseph Anthony Button Jr., the most honest dude in podcasting.

Yep.

Sorry. Sorry to kill your little scripts.
Yeah, nigga died. Yeah, word.
Yo. Oh, man, you killing me, Smalls.
This nigga right here is different. What else up there needs our undivided attention? Did we want to talk about this Kendrick tour, or did we do it already? No, we didn't.
We didn't. That shit set in records already.
Yeah, he's passed Eminem's record. It was nine, he made nine million, 9.1 million in the first night.
So it's the highest grossing rap tour. Well, for sure.
For one night? Yeah, per, no, per date. Okay.
So first date. But this shit is looking amazing.

I saw the set list.

I can't wait to go.

Yeah, I cannot wait.

I'm dying, bro.

I saw the set list.

They're weaving it.

So it's not

like he comes out

he comes out

he does like

four or five joints

she do joints

he comes back

does joints.

They're going

they're co-headlining.

Gotcha.

And he's covering everything.

It's a couple records

I wish he did on there

but I don't care. Maybe we'll change it.
Yeah yeah I hope I would like to see some section 80 love it's over I think it's over I think it's over yeah no knocks to them and no disrespect to them but isn't that predicated on like the times like nowadays with movies and shit like the movie will make XYZ at the box office that's just because ticket prices are higher than when Eddie Murphy and them was setting records at $4 a ticket and you're doing stadium at $4 a ticket and filling them out and you're doing stadium so as opposed to doing arena tours which like Beyonce like 20 people 20,000 Beyonce and Taylor Swift and them they'll probably set the record next time they go out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Beyonce's out now. It's like NFL contracts or some shit.
Because it says the average ticket price is $536 on... Probably for the resellers.
Kendrick. No.
Probably for the resellers, I'm sure. Yeah, that's resellers.
Yeah. Average ticket price is like $192.
Look at you trying

to keep people

from the concert, nigga.

No, I'm reading it.

The box is doing that.

It says the average

Kendrick Lamar concert

ticket price,

2025 tours,

estimated to be

around $536.

However,

the resale tickets

can range from $92

to $647.

So the retail,

that wasn't in counting.

Here.

Resale.

Coordinatory data.

Opening night in Minneapolis grossed over $9.1 million for more than 47,000 fans at an average price of $192.70. Like I said, the previous record was Eminem, highest grossing rap concert.
So just one night. He's already broke that on night one in Minneapolis.
So that's the town when When you get to these bigger cities, that's what I'm saying. This is a feat.
No matter how you knock it, how you look at it, this is still a feat. The money is money.
This is still a feat. And it's 52, I think, songs? Total? I can't wait.
52 songs? That's what they're doing. Between the two of them.
No, the set list, between him and SZA. It's a total a totally 52 record It's fire because it's like My girl's gonna love it That's great You know what I mean That's the fire part 50 songs The set list is fire Their attendance is fire Luther is still number one Their collaboration That's fire SZA's album jumped back Back into fucking Billboard Salute Like.
Like her old album. That's what I said.
That's fire. Ridiculous.
Salute. All things are working for TD right now with the exception of Ab Soul tour dates and I do hope they get to even that together at some point.
I think they'll get something. I hope, anyway.
Yeah. His last two projects deserve a live performance.
They do. For sure.
Agreed. I wish they would have done another.
I mean, I know expecting this now is completely off the table, but I wouldn't have been mad at another championship tour, like how they did with the entire TDE tour. Yeah.
And it gave fans who were there to see a Kendrick Assis the chance to see some of the other acts on the label. And that was an amazing tour.
Yeah, yeah. We'll see.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some pop-ups. Yeah.
Here and there. I know.
I've heard enough chatter to know that when that tour hits Prudential. What's all? Ain't no Prudential.
Ain't no Prudential, B. I mean, I'm sorry.
It's MetLife. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I meant MetLife. Next week.
Yeah. Yeah.
Next week. That's going to be nice.
Damn, what am I wearing? Family trip? Yeah. Well, trip with you guys.
I'll tell you, my mom is asking for like 12 tickets to shows now. I don't know what's going on.
Yeah. Joey, we need nine tickets to Chris Brown.
Oh, she's not out there. Got it, mom.
I got you. See, my mom's ain't there yet.
She just asked me for two. I could do that.
That's cool, yeah. I love it.
That's cool. Give me two for this, two for that.
Just give me the list. And it's like two of them coming up right around her birthday cool go and yeah that Patti LaBelle that shit is May 24th at the Barclays not when they hit Jersey in September the Barclays is May 24th so that's the one that's Chaka Khan Patti LaBelle Gladys Knight and Stephanie Mills I'm sending her to the September one, which is prudential.
Got it. What else? What else? What else? What else needs our attention up there? We ran through Marvin Gaye.
We did Shadur, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What? Who wrote Mel Birth Control up there? I did.
Let me hear it. Shocker.
I just thought I did. Shocker.
Shocker. We know who wrote it, though.
Let's see here. What you got? Hold on a second here.
Male birth control. I'm on it.
Non-hormonal male contraceptive implant shows promise. It lasts at least two years.
Getting IUDs? Kind of, yeah. Kind of, it's called Adam, is a water-based soluble hydrogel

placed in the sperm ducts, preventing

sperm from mixing with semen.

In phase one of the trials, Adam successfully

blocked sperm released

for 24 months with no sperm

detected in the semen in two participants.

Where does

sperm go?

Where does the sperm go? Yeah. It just stays in you.
Probably absorb back into your body. My question, what, they inject that shit in you? It's a gel? It's inserted via a 10-minute minimally invasive procedure.
No serious adverse events have been reported. Like your shit.
And it also received full regulatory approval in phase two clinical trials. Like your shit.
No, my shit permanent, though, B. No, I'm saying, but 10 minutes.
Vasectomies aren't permanent. 10 minutes.
Huh? Vasectomies aren't permanent. If you want them to be there.
If you want them to be there. I mean, yeah, but they're not permanent.
And they're not 100% either. Yeah.
They are permanent. How are they not 100%? What's that football player that was on the Jets?

Antonio Cromartie.

There you go.

But that's more on the procedure.

That's more, again.

They fucked up?

Yeah.

Oh, the procedure was fucked up?

Yeah.

You get a vasectomy, you have to get a semen test afterwards.

And that's how they make sure that it was properly done.

And once they test

and they say,

okay, there's zero sperm count in here,

they know you good.

And you can keep checking that.

But yeah, if you cut it

and it's not cut right

or something like that,

you can still get sperm through there.

Got it.

That's all.

Is that all we have on milk?

Is that everything?

That was it.

That was it.

Yeah, it was interesting. Just thought it was interesting because men don't seem to like to take birth control.
I don't see why. Did you know that the pill was originally for you guys? What pill? Mel, we're going to keep creating black men.
There's nothing you can do about it. I have no problem.
What pill? Birth control pills. Mel trying to get us on this shit.
Was made for men? I think think women should get on it. They were originally made for men.
Oh, I didn't know that. And then when they tested them on men, men complained of headaches and a couple of other symptoms.
And so then they reversed it, gave it to women. And now the odd blood clot.
Poison your bodies instead. Maybe death or whatever.
They gave a headache to the headache. Oh, shit.
Ooh, return to cinder. I'm joking.
Yeah. Hey, yo, real quick.
How long should you be indebted to a person that glows you up? Life. Depend on what you mean by it.
Great question. You have to understand, I mean, explain indebted.
What that mean? But also, what's the glow up? Glow up, legitimize you, take you out the streets. Put you on.
Put you on, put you in position to make money, put you in position to make legitimate money or legal money. Just change your whole life.
At minimum, a very healthy length of time. Life.
What's indebted? Yeah, it depends on what I'm saying. Tell me, you got to just, gotta just, I mean, not justify, you gotta specify what you mean by indebted.
Because you can never sever ties with that person, you can't do your own thing? Like, what's indebted? Subjective. But, to me, what Angela was trying to do for ghosts.
I'm speaking for a relationship situation, and on top of that, if you're trying to break up with the person, like just, you can't really move. Yeah.
I think that, well, she wanted to legitimize ghosts. And take and change your life and create a life with you.
I think that. If a woman does that for a man, even the most, getting busiest of the men, like outside, all the dope boy money, legal money, whatever you want to put the money at.
If a young lady comes and legitimizes him, cleans him up, cleans the money up, how long should he be indebted to her? I don't think it's a time period. I think that that person should play or you should have a special place in your heart for that person forever.
I don't think that the person should be able to hold it over your head forever, but I think that person should be near and dear to you forever. And should be able to come to you for anything.
Anytime they need something, should you be able to give them whatever they need, whatever they want in the moment? If it's within your power to do so, then yes. That's circumstantial, because I think that Angela and Ghost let's say they they were in a relationship for 10 years right and then they broke up and Ghost remarried I don't think Angela could come calling on him whenever she felt like it if he's in a new marriage or a new situation I think again that she should play like within reason you know what I mean I think I would be indebted to her for the rest of my life but I don't think that she should play, like, within reason.
You know what I mean?

I think I would be indebted to her for the rest of my life,

but I don't think that she could just call whenever she felt like it.

Yeah, I think it depends on what the ask is.

It depends on what the ask is.

Because even away from relationships,

even in, like, entertainment or business or anything like that,

just because you helped put me on, yeah, I'm always going to be respect and love, but that doesn't mean like you can abuse that shit. That's true.
I agree with that. Man, you don't owe me because you did that.
Right. But what if it changes your life? What if whatever I did for you now puts you on a different stratosphere? It changed your life forever.
Now you're super up. And if it wasn't for me and my sacrifices or whatever I did, you wouldn't be in that position.
So then now, if... I don't give a fuck if you...
If you... If I need you at this moment and it's important, I don't want you to think about it.
I want you to be... The person wouldn't want you to think about it.
They want you to come through for them instantly because I was the one that put you in this position. Depends on the ask.
Still. Still depends.
Got you. One, that depends on the ask.
And two, you should, like, if you're doing something for somebody. Yeah.
With the expectation down the line that when I come back, they're going to return it. It's a little, it don't come off as just genuine to me.
Because cause also what happens in a situation where you give someone an opportunity right they blow up and do good but you also make money and do well off it too do they still owe you a drop of a dime whatever you ask you know everyone won you're A&R you find me rapping and I go on to be Jay ZZ, Eminem, Kendrick, Drake you found me at my cousin's cookout you know what I'm saying you had the connections to plug me but you also made you might not have made as much money as I did I might have made a billion dollars but you made 50 million, 100 million dollars so you ate off of my success as well it was a mutually beneficial situation, I might not be where I am if it wasn't for Flip, but you still ate. So I would be indebted to you for life because you changed my life.
You changed my lineage. You changed my family's life.
But I think within reason, your ass can be too big. Pause.
Now, see, in those examples, usually there's some paperwork involved with the, I discovered you. But I think just putting somebody on, yeah, I'm with y'all.
As long as the ass getting too crazy. What the fuck y'all niggas doing in here, bro? What happened? Corey, keep your little dusties out of here, my nigga.

Some shit on the couch.

Bugs and shit.

Yeah, nigga.

Bed bugs.

I'm acting like you never had bed bugs before.

I'm not active.

I didn't.

You've never experienced bed bugs?

Yes, you did.

Why are you saying that so shockingly?

Because you bought mattresses from the street.

Yeah.

That's why.

That's why.

Because you bought mattresses from fucking drug dealers.

You bought mattresses from the streets?

That's why.

Whoa.

Whoa. Trucks that were kidnapped and stolen.
Oh, right. That's where you bought mattresses.
Stolen. They were not stolen.
I don't think it's so out of bounds. My man, he didn't buy any stolen property.
One of them might add. You know what I mean? They just fell off the truck.
I don't know what they did. They wasn't stolen.
Or not even a hotel. Movie theater.
Motel. You've been in the joints.
You've been in the joints. Me and you have been in places where they have bed bugs.
Sam, they have bed bugs in the Waldorf Astoria. That don't mean that I personally came in contact with the bed bugs.
You've opened yourself up to a lawsuit from Waldorf Astoria. No, it's documented.
I am just telling you. They're going to document you.
They're going to come to you, though.

Don't worry about it.

You're stupid, yo.

Yeah.

Yo, nigga, I haven't had no personal interaction with bed bugs.

You've been in a loop.

I think they closed the loop down specifically because there was a bed bug problem, if my

memory serves me correctly.

I'm telling you, they had.

Been a few years.

Yo, you niggas is dumb.

That don't mean niggas had bed bugs.

Yeah, what are you talking about?

I wasn't in that room.

Too late. Too late.
That's not true. It's got to stop.
219? It's got to stop. There was bed bugs in 219.
You put them there too. No, I didn't.
With a little dusty little. Man, don't try to act like all your life you've been fucking the cleanest of girls too.
Some of them carried bed bugs around. I believe that to be true.
Some of them carried bed bugs around Antoine. And lights, nigga.
And crab louse, nigga. Crabs, nigga.
What's the time you caught crabs? Never. And you travel, so you be going to all them spots where the bed bugs be at.
I've never caught crabs in my life. Yes, you did.
Yo, you niggas is nuts. You did.
What have you had? Nothing. Zero.
He wouldn't tell this rock ass if he did. That's not true.
You put the cream on your shit. Never.
You had the cream. The coolant cream.
I wear condoms. Cool tonight.
Coolant now. You got to slow it down.
True. I've never had no venereal disease.
Knock on. You did, yo.
You did. I'm with you, Ish.
Y'all niggas is crazy. I did have crabs, but no venereal disease.
That's what? Did you have crabs before? All right. Is she lying on you? Yeah.
No. I'm not going something.
You did, yo. You did.
I'm with you, Ish. Y'all niggas is crazy.
I did have crabs, but no venereal diseases.

You have crabs before?

All right, is she lying on you?

Yeah, no.

I know it wasn't no, because it was freshman year of college,

and I didn't know.

I wouldn't even get no yams like that.

You sat on the toilet?

Yeah, exactly what it was.

And what's crazy is, and I brought my own toilet seat,

because I'm an OCD.

So I brought my own toilet seat from Home Depot. Yeah, and I would walk down the hallway and lay it down on the chrome so that I wouldn't get nothing.
Y'all had chrome seats at your college? You were in jail college? It was regular, like, regular, you know, I'm saying, like the regular toilet bowl. It wasn't that.
The metal shit. No, that's chrome.
All toilets are chrome. It's the jail shit.
Huh? Wait, what? They're not? Porcelain. Porcelain, man.
Oh, okay. I don't know.
You're talking about jail. Yeah.

You're talking about jail. Tomato, tomato, right?

They didn't have the button on the side.

They didn't have the button on the side.

No.

What's some little white fiends?

There's nothing wrong there.

You worked your way out of there.

I definitely worked out of them cramps, man.

It was the worst.

And then one day I started itching and shit.

Yeah.

Then it got worse. Then it got worse.
I heard that shit is real. Then my homie said, well, you know, all you need is dog shampoo.
Which sounded right to me because I was a freshman. And I said, are you sure? He said, you ever seen a dog with crabs? I wouldn't know if the dog with crabs.
It seemed like airtight logic in 1996. Holy shit.
I love the dog with crabs. Dog shampoo was a lot cheaper than crab lice removal.
Okay. Yeah.
But it didn't work. A month later.
Easy to see why he a round earther. Watch your fucking mouth.
Yo, just get your dog shampoo. Get the cat litter shampoo, yo.
So you think because you believe in flat earther, you didn't catch no CDs or crabs or nothing. Well, he can't get crabs now because he got the procedure.
He ain't got no hair. He got the procedure done.
He got lasers. He got his hair laser.
So wait, did the dog shampoo work? Man, pink down there now. With bumps.
Oh no, that shit ain't worked. I didn't get any fleas.
Okay. You know, but I still had crabs.
Hey yo. And I tried everything to kill them.
They had the most annoying, especially when you don't treat it. Yo, what's the shit you had to can't you just shave off your shit no okay and we're moving on another myth we did it yo what you did to get rid of your shit I never had what's your shit which thing which time trigger I don't know what you're talking about no shot no cream no nothing I have no idea what you talking about.
I have one thing that I've talked about many a time.

Yeah, we talked about that.

What was that?

Trecherminosis.

Trecherminosis.

Trecherminosis.

That shit feel kind of good.

Trecherminosis.

When you pee, that shit feel good.

It's like a sensation.

And I've said that before here, too.

But I won't say it again.

We don't want to get into that. I talk about that on Patreon.
Get a nice kit, y'all. Look at Mel.
That shit just feel like your piss is stressed out. Like when you pee.
That shit just on script. Dude.
Dude. Dude.
You start peeing like fucking DJ Spl playing white lines so I want to play for you guys this awkward moment That's crazy. We're going to fuck y'all up.
Shit. Anyways.
Yeah, that's true. Shout out to Kim.

So I want to play for you guys this awkward moment in this Bill Belichick interview.

Yes, that was awesome.

Where he has his young girlfriend on the side who interrupts when he's asked where they met.

So I'm going to play it and just get you guys' thoughts on this.

I have my own. But if you'd like to hear it and just get you guys' thoughts on this.
I have my own.

But if you'd like to hear it, here it goes.

Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.

You have Jordan right over there.

Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.

They've got an opinion about your private life.

It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.

How do you deal with that? Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks just try to do what I feel like is best for me and what's right How did you guys meet? Not talking about this It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on Holy bitch! in presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there.

Everybody... comfortable commenting on.
Make sure that that's... Holy bitch! Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about... And this interview is with CBS Sunday Morning aired on April 27th.
This whole straight voice direct answer shit might work when you got the Bengals next week. Right.
It worked at the fucking post-game press conference. Not so much on CBS when we starting to get asked for the tea.
And then she right there on the side. I do have a thought about this.
Not sharing it immediately. What do any of you guys have to say about this? So she wasn't being interviewed she was awesome.
No she was awesome. She was producing him.
Yeah. That's what that sound like.
I'm always fascinated when the interview subject is so unprepared for a question that is so obviously coming. You're 70 how old is he? 74? No.
He is 73. 73.
Her answering the question didn't tell me he was so unprepared. Yeah, he didn't even get a chance to.
But I'm saying they should have coordinated that. I don't think that.
I think they did. Oh, you think he wanted that? No, I think that they were told beforehand what not to broach, and the guy broached it anyway.
That's what I think. I see.
Which made her jump up from the side and say, hey, we're not answering that. She might know a little more about Bill's health than we do.
That's a good point. Also, to where she felt the need to do that, on the Patriots, there were a team of people on the side to say, nah, next question, fuck out of here.
Yo, not just that, I'm Bill Belichick, my nigga. People respect me in this industry.
I'm him. And the questions that I don't want asked, they don't get asked.
They don't ask them. Yeah.
So now this person went above and beyond to do some salacious shit in this day and time and they checked it. And when I used to...
Wait, go ahead. I was just going to say, that's not really a salacious question.
It's an honest question. Yes, it is.
Yes, it is this. Yes, it is.
If it was discussed ahead of time that we're not getting into this and you still do it, that makes it salacious. If it wasn't discussed, it's salacious.
If it wasn't discussed, it's still salacious. You did it for a headline.
Okay. I would just consider that crossing a boundary, but I don't necessarily say that it's a salacious question.
If he was asking direct questions about their sex life, I feel like that's salacious. Or maybe I'm just splitting hairs here.
When I work for CBS, with CBS, I just work for BET, the same company. You know, when we do CBS stuff, you would say to somebody, the publicist would say, hey, don't ask me about this thing.
It's not salacious, by the way, because the definition of salacious is having or conveying undue or inappropriate interest in sexual matters. That's what I'm saying.
It's not salacious. So salacious is the, but y'all know what we're trying.
Yeah, you know what we're saying. Clickbait.
I still think it's salacious, but... I mean, because it's not directly...
It's still salacious because it still ties in somewhat to sex. The implication is why you fucking this little girl.
And y'all know that that age gap shit has been a big topic of discussion. Exactly.
And, I mean, it's different if she's not there with him and by himself and you're trying to have like a real nigga moment with him, she's 10 feet away. Right.
And that's why I think they say we're not going to ask but in my experience, what you do is you say, look, I have to ask it, but I won't press you on it. If you say no comment, I'll move on.
See, I think that's foul when they do that. That's super foul.
And if that's y'all's practice, then we should change the practices. It depends on the question.
Some shit ain't my business. If it's not my business, I don't ask it.
But for example, if I interview Shador Sanders tomorrow, I would feel compelled to ask him about the prank. And if he said, I don't want to talk about that prank shit, I'm mad.
Say no comment. But if he asked you beforehand to not ask him about the prank because he don't want to lend his light to some white boy who was trying to be funny in his moment of bliss that he worked his whole life for, then what would you do? I would make a judgment call based on how important I thought it was to the news cycle.
Oh, see, that's not fair. In that specific case, I would leave it alone because I don't think it's that important to the Shador story.
But if Shador said, I don't want to talk about my draft position, you see what I'm saying?

Like, what am I going to do?

Nah, but... Well, then you shouldn't have him on.

I think that's right.

There's people that call here for an interview all the time, and when they send their list,

if that's exactly what I wanted to talk about, then sorry, buddy, there's no point in you

coming up here.

I'm not even going to play with you like that.

But you know what a lot of celebrities do?

They say there's no parameters, and then right before they sit in the chair, they go,

oh, don't ask me about that thing. When we wouldn't have brought you to your point, we wouldn't have brought you up here if we knew you weren't going to talk about that thing.
That's where it gets a little dicey. And then I got to make a judgment call.
Well, even then, I think it's on you to say in that moment, then we're going to go a different route. Right.
And that's a tough call to make. Yeah.
Especially when it's like a headliner or you're about to go live or you got an hour to get this pre-tape up. You just said, yo, depending upon how important you think it is to the news cycle.
Yeah. So that's what they're doing.
They think that these things are important to the news cycle. They clickbaity.
They going to get us a return. And so they broach any category possible.
Yo, we can see, yo, Bill Belichick comments on relationship with 22-year-old girl and says it's only natural or some shit. Yeah, you won the day.
Yeah, like that's what they win. You're trying to win the day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so everybody's playing their interest.
I'm not mad at either person. Nah, nah, you got to be mad at the person that's putting winning the day ahead of how you treat people.
That's true. Yes, yes.
I mean, I'm saying in this case, assuming they didn't say don't bring it up. Okay, got it.
Yeah. If they said don't bring it up, again, leave it alone.
That's not who Bill Belichick is. That's not the story for him.

I don't even think they should

and I'm with what you're saying

but asking that which shorty 10

feet away is kind of nuts.

I don't take it that way. It's nuts.

Again, I'm saying it

wasn't discussed ahead of time.

You see a couple that has been in the news

or whatever. How'd y'all meet?

I don't take it that way. Why do you think that it's nuts that they asked with her sitting 10 feet away? Do you think that it was dismissive of them to ask him the question when she's sitting right there? Is that the issue? I think that if you have Bill Bell Well, first of all, she's a woman and she's sitting right there and you know what you're doing.
You're asking something because there's a 60 year

age gap here and you're trying

to win the day. I don't think that you should

try to win the day at a woman's expense.

That's one. Two, if you have Bill Belichick

there, I assume that you know

he's been private for

50 years. That's the main part.

He doesn't do what you're

trying to get him to do. It's different if you got

fucking Shiggy or fucking me or fucking like, it's different. We'll come up there.
Bill Belichick is not that. And I know that he doesn't do interviews.
I know that he's a notoriously private person. So I guess what I'm asking is, since he doesn't do interviews, what was the point of this interview? I wish I knew.
I think they have a book. I think it's a book.
Oh, book coming out he has a book okay so it's a book promotion bill belichick's life has been football i understand like i know 98 i know football so when you get him up there to now discuss something about his personal life that may be teetering the line of gossip or teetering a lot not i don't call it because it's real, but teetering the line of inappropriate shit that he hasn't stood for for the last 50 years, I just think is nasty. He's in the eye of a hurricane.
That's just it. And it's CBS, not ESPN, so that also changes it.
Exactly. He don't normally do these, but he don't normally be here.
So if he's here, you're going to get some different ways. And that's what I was about to say I have a problem with, because look how we're approaching the Bill Belichichick topic and look how we're approaching the Shannon Sharp topic.
You're holding the Bill Belichick, oh, that's Bill Belichick. It's still the same thing as far as the age gap difference in women.
And we're approaching this with more kid gloves. I completely agree.
Well, that's a false parallel. This is a false parallel.
Tell me how's that. One person is doing an interview.
Shannon wasn't doing an interview. Shannon and the girl believe that shit.
And the girl bleep that shit. And the girl bleep that shit.
And the of sexual assault. That's not the same.
And he's been interviewed directly to mingle those two. I thought we were looking at the age difference.
We're not discussing that. So we don't care about the age difference.
I do, but that's not the point. I think the point now is sort of like how are we talking about it with Bill Belichick.
Because I think if Shannon Sharp came on, I'd say the same thing. And if there's no sexual assault allegation, I wouldn't be like, why are you dating this girl from Chuck E.
Cheese? You know what I mean? That's my point. If there's no sexual assault, nothing, and it's just a clean conversation, then everybody is doing age gaps have at it out there.
And I totally understand but flip is right the fact of the matter is in addition to the sexual assault claims a huge part of the conversation is the massive age gap between shannon sharp and that girl for sure and the age gap the massive age gap between these two those two those two girls are what two years fucking apart they're five years apart They're five years apart. I thought she was 22 now.
She's 24. The girl in Shannon Sharp's case was 19.
At the time. I think it's okay for us to talk about it as a society, but the question is, when you get that person in the room, is it our business to press them on it in that room? But to your point, this is not ESPN.
This is CBS, and it would be a little bit more titillating and a little bit more, you know, personal get to know you since you are so private.

Since we have known Bill Belichick to be so private, maybe this is the time where he starts to peel back legs.

I would ask.

I'd be like, fuck, he has a book.

With no context, I would ask.

But again, if he said he didn't want to talk about it, I would leave it alone.

And if he told me ahead of time, don't bring it up, I wouldn't bring it up. Have you ever been in that position where somebody actually had to bring it up and you still felt that the job and the story was more important than how they felt? No, I think that's unethical.
I either tell you, what I always say to the person is, I have to ask you this. You can say no comment or no.
Or I concede the point and say I won't ask it if it's something that they persuade me on. But I've never like sandbagged somebody where I say I won't ask it.
Sandbagged. Yeah.
Yeah. Because I think that's not okay.
I think that's wrong. I've been doing that in my interviews where I'll have like pre-discussion with them.
I'm like, I'm going to ask you these questions to make sure that they're comfortable. Like that is ethical.
I like that. Yeah.
Comfortability. What you hope is that a person won't, you'll ask them something that they won't expect you.
Like, I remember asking Jada Pinkett Smith about having an open marriage back like 15 years ago. And she just wasn't expecting that because she was coming to talk about the Angela Davis film.
That she, she produced the Angela Davis documentary. So I asked her because she, I don't think she, her team didn't think to tell me not to ask it.
And she gave a great answer that made news, you know, that hit the news cycle. So we won the day.
But if she had said, don't ask me nothing about my relationship, I wouldn't have asked her anything about it. You know what I mean? You ain't want Will to come through.
No, not that. I did not.
And you find it unethical when that happens. And love the album.
You find it unethical when it happens. I think it's unethical to take things that we don't have a right to know or that you haven't talked about.
Like Shannon Sharp, for example, has talked about dating young girls. Right? So I would feel more open saying to him, you've mentioned this.
Why? Bill Belichick is not out here moving like Neil. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know anything about Bill. That's a good one.
People have been putting, he on the beach, he just trying to do what retired people do. And because of who he is, they're putting him on page six and National Enquirer and all these magazines and in this light that I don't have to care about whether I'm on CBS, ESPN, FS1.
I want to talk about your book. But it's true.
But to that point, he is no longer that guy anymore. He is retired, but now he's pushing a book that is...
He's not retired. He's coaching.
He's coaching UNC. University of Carolina.
He retired from the NFL. NFL.
Got it. Okay, okay.
Got it. Got it.
Got it. If I was a publicist, I would have directed him.
When they asked you about the... If this happens, just say, I've always liked to keep my private life private, and I still want to.
And that's the other thing. Where was the publicist? Why is the girlfriend talking up? Well, that's the other thing.
That's why I think it looked bad. We don't know that the girlfriend is not the publicist.
We don't know nothing. Facts, right.
The girlfriend in that moment moved like the publisher. She sure did.
She sure did. And she might be.
I mean, there's a reason we haven't seen him for a million years. Maybe she's kind of the person pushing him to do some shit.
We don't know that she's not the caretaker. We don't know nothing about the nature of their relationship.
We don't know if he done handed over some type of lifetime rights or anything. We don't know shit.
All we ever just assume as the public is, all right, they fucking, and that's it. But that don't have to be the extent of what's going on.
But do you think that it's fair that people are very curious? Do you think that's fair? Sure. Yeah, people are very curious.
People are going to be curious. To me, it's just a question of what's our business.
I find it disgusting. But it ain't your business just because you're curious.
We know a lot about people's business that we should not be knowing. But that's because they put their business out there.
Sometimes. A lot of people are putting their business out there.
Sometimes. We don't need to know this shit.
And that's still, people got to have, I don't know what type of social cues people got. You got to just know what's your business and what ain't.
That don't say what you should be retaining and what you shouldn't or what you should read or not read but you should know when something ain't your business. Right.
I agree. That don't mean that we, I mean, blogs on blog.
There's people making millions and millions and millions of dollars off of other people's business. That's a fact.
That is a fact. But that ain't for, you know what I mean? We fell entitled.
That said, I got some judgments. I think shit's gross and weird.
And I can't unthink that. But I don't feel the need to.
What's gross and weird about it? It's a real conversation. I think the way I look at girls that age is very much like father or daughter.
It's where my brain goes. I'm not saying everybody has to look at it that way.
But it would be weird for me to date somebody who's the age. Who's younger than your children? Who might be the age of my grand or great-grandchildren.
For me, that would just gross me out. I'm not saying everyone has to feel that way.
I'm not trying to. But for me, it's weird.
I don't know their relationship. I don't know anything about it, but when I see it, it just, it's just something about it just grosses me out.
I think that, I think it's more common than we think. I think that men in their 60s, check us out of here, we out of here now.
What? Let's go. Fuck that PhD shit.
No, I just think that men in their 50s, 60s, 70s be more attracted to these 20-year-old girls than we think. And I think had them give them some money and give them the choice.
Little 25-year-old man. I think they would be fucking with these 20-something-year-old girls.
They'd be warmer than these 70-year-old eggs. I think they would be fucking with a lot of these young girls.
70 year old eggs. I heard this though.
Or 20 year old. Hmm.
I mean the old egg. Let's weigh this out.
They take the dentures out. The old ones.
Hey. That flabber.
Pure gums. I don't care if you mad.
I am now. I am now.
I am now. These topics be triggering the fuck out of me.
Yeah sure like that shit. When her foot start foot's all go like this, nigga, she's upset.
Why y'all never just, but why y'all never tell us that? Like, why we gotta guess or learn in real time that these topics trigger you? She can say it, y'all. Because you don't have to guess, and also because I'm an interloper here.
This is guys, and I'm just gonna, like, stand back and let you guys have the jokes and stuff like that. that.
We'll make a space for you. You're not an interloper.
You inherit these same beliefs when the shoe was on the other foot. You come in here all the time and say, shout out to the old kids that's dating.
Shout out to the young girl. You're not it.
I have not said those words. Those words have never left my mouth.
But what are you asking me? Hold on one second. He said you felt like away or you were offended or something.
No, I'm not offended. I just concur with Mark.
I think it's gross. And if it was the other way around, would it be the same thing? Because when we talked about Cher, you big Cher up.
When we talked about Cher, and when we talked about Khalees and what's his nickname? Murray. You big these things up.
You said he was funny. Oh, he's funny though.
Khalees was 40 something years old. He was in his 60s.
It's not the same. All right, you're right.
Let's talk about Cher. And with Cher, when she's like in her 70s, dude is like in his late, mid to late 30s.
No, no, no. How old is he? I think he was in his early 30s and she was was in her 70s.
It's a 40-year gap. When you're 19 and 20 and 21 and 22, it's significant, okay? Because what that's...
When my granddad was 85, chicks was coming around that was 40. Chicks was coming around that was 35.
I'm with it. Yes, there's a big age difference.
That's right. He's's 90.
Nigga, you about to kick the fucking bucket. You know what? It's a difference.
But if I roll back 30 years and he's 55 and they're 15, I'm going to say different. You see what I'm saying? The 40 years don't bother me.
It's which 40 years? That's what they was doing in the 40s and 50s. Let me ask your girl dad something.
That's true. Your daughter's 19 years old

show up with a 67 year old.

What are you guys thinking?

What are you going to do?

I'm not with that.

What are you going to do?

I'm not with that.

What if it's Bill Belichick?

I got an even better question.

I'm agreeing.

What if one of your daughters

starts dating one of your fucking friends?

Yo.

Please tell me that.

You have this mean face.

I'm agreeing.

I'm agreeing with you.

She's just speaking with expression.

I really want to know that one.

I think that somebody at 19 years old

I don't know. Please tell me that.
You have this mean face. I'm agreeing with you.
She's just speaking with expression. I really want to know that one.
I think that somebody at 19 years old has not lived life enough to be making a decision where a 45-year-old man or a 50-year-old man should be engaging with them. I think that if somebody's 60 and somebody's 32 years old, that's a 28-year gap.
But the 32-year-old has experienced life more and has a bigger ability to practice discernment. Hence, when we talked about the Drea shit, when we talked about that boy being 21 years old and we tried to get you to comment on that, you said you didn't see nothing wrong with it because the boy had amassed so much money or was at a certain place financially in his life.
That's not what I said. That's not what I said.
And I was clear on the fact that personally, that would not be something that I would do. I don't understand what a 39-year-old...
She said she wouldn't do it. I said I don't understand what a 39-year-old woman has in common with a 22-year-old guy.
You did say that. You said you would never do it.
Exactly. So it's the same thing.
I don't understand what a 67 year old man has in common or 70 whatever has in common with a 24 year old woman. Let me ask you a question.
And I use that term very loosely. I'm beating his ass.
I'm not disagreeing with you. My daughter can't come in with no 67 year old.
I don't fuck all that other talk. I'm beating his ass.
I think that's wrong on all fronts. Because when you're looking at it, when you think about a guy who's looking at no six-year-old.
I don't fuck all that other talk. I'm being here that's wrong on all fronts.

Because when you're looking at it,

when you think about a guy who's looking at a 24-year-old,

his chances are...

You're not a girl, Dad.

No, he likes to treat us.

And I'm not going to say nothing about it.

My daughter cannot come with an old-ass man.

My daughter cannot come with one of my friends.

No.

None of that shit, nigga.

They ass whooped, get ragtag all around the house

because I know that you know your child.

He's 70.

You know that they could be influenced

and you know how these men who are older may get your child. Like, it's just disgusting on all fronts to me as a father, as a girl dad, and that's just what it is.
Would money matter to y'all? Like, if dude was a billionaire, like, or like Smokey Robinson come home and he's like, look, I'm gonna take care of your daughter, you know what I mean? But the truth is that's usually why somebody in her early 20s would be fucking with somebody who's in his 70s. Because the nigga got money.
That's why. It's currency.
Her currency is looks and youth. His currency is fucking money.
That's true, but that's not all the way true. Oh, child.
Good the fuck. Yo, listen.
The Belichick may be charming. But in today's society, that is happening.
Yo, he seems like a real. He seems like a real charmer.
He seems like a real charmer. He's funny.
He's funny. Hey, listen.
Some of the men in this room have spoken to the women that were 22, 23, 24 that will willingly tell you I like older. I don't want to date no young guy.
Older. When I say older, older than you.
How old is your dad? That is a fact. And it's not just because they're wealthy.
I hate all these young niggas. That's my bag.
That's just the way I float. That's how I'm on it.
So you don't think about it from a psychological point? I think they're both true. I think what Mel's saying is true.
But you don't think about it from a psychological

that maybe this young lady might have been

missing a father or might have been going through something.

That's where my mind goes.

You don't think about it from that perspective.

Maybe. Everything's on the table.

Maybe. I'm not discounting what anybody is.

There are a lot of them.

It's a lot of them.

A lot of them.

A lot of women.

They be established too. We was in high school.
Old head niggas was outside the high school This is nothing new And then if you go If you go No No Stop yo Cause niggas is saying that That ain't funny I cursed some nigga out the other day Oh you right Actually can we edit that Cause I don't wanna make a look at it I was preying on niggas at somebody's high school. I was a kid.
Yeah, he was a teenager too. I was a child.
But anyway, in yesteryear, it was way more common. Like women were getting married at 15.
You know what I'm saying? Niggas had 15 kids by the time they was 35 years old. Yeah.
So that shit is different. Like, I think that

to Joe's point,

I just told,

last week I was outside

told them,

my grandfather told us

his mom's

passed away in childbirth,

but she was 17

and his father was 41.

Nigga, my mother's mother

passed away in childbirth.

My mother was 13, my nigga.

Like, yo,

and they had seven, eight,

because she passed away

having twins.

It would have been

eight, nine kids.

Niggas had 11 kids,

13 kids,

Thank you. 14, my nigga.
Like, yo, and they had seven, eight, because she passed away having twins. It would have been eight, nine kids.
Niggas had 11 kids, 13 kids, 15 kids back in the day. So that shit wasn't uncommon to start having kids when you was 15.
Yeah. It's interesting to me how the age gap conversation is such a thing today.
Like, it's a real thing today. It is a thing today.
Because it's put in a magnifying glass.

It's a thing today.

People are watching.

More than it was.

Way more than it was.

Yeah, a lot more.

Way more than it was.

A lot of shit was acceptable.

It's a thing when they

want it to be a thing

with people that they

don't necessarily like, yo.

That's true, too.

They look the other way.

That's true, too.

They look the other way.

Bill Belichick

ain't done nothing to nobody.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't think so.

He did a lot to me, Paulson.

Spikey. Made 20 years miserable.
M Miserable What the fuck You talking about I hated the motherfuckers How rich is He got enough He's not poor He got enough He got enough He rich enough To where if you say I want a 27 year old girl To take care of me Until the day I die You gonna do to do it. He has the money to, yeah, got it.
Yes. The narrative on the streets is that she, I'm not saying this is true.
Let me be very clear. I don't want to get sued, but I'm just saying.
Please don't. The street narrative is it's probably an OnlyFans situation or a, you know, a process.
Sugar babies. It's a kind of sex work situation and he got turned out.
Would that make y'all see this situation any differently? Would that matter if that's the case? No, it's more understandable now. That makes sense.
What the fuck you talking about, nigga? She did that. Probably why she shut that the fuck down, you know.
She touched that spot. We know what it is.
This is for money. This is for pleasure.
When a man gets older, yo, I... And that's one of the differences between Shannon...
I understand your point. Between Shannon.
I'm sorry, man. Between Shannon and Bill.

We looking at Shannon.

Yes, this essay here.

But we have a problem with where you landed on OnlyFans.

I'm on OnlyFans every day.

But he didn't meet on OnlyFans.

Says him.

I don't believe that. I don't believe that Jim shit for a second.

Get that shit the fuck out of here. I don't believe that shit lies.
You landed on the wrong OnlyFans Says him I don't believe that I don't believe that Jim shit for a second Get that shit the fuck out of here I don't believe that shit lies You landed on the wrong OnlyFans girl One Two Bill Belichick Has been Has 60 years Of a football resume We clowning Shannon Because you was just about To hit another stratosphere Like there's a lot more reasons Why we clowning Shannon Other than... Okay, I'm reading a little bit about this.
Nah, fuck that. Apparently the girl, her name is Hudson.
That's her last name. She's going to put out a...
Jordan Hudson is her name. She's going to put out some type of statement, but she was sending screenshots of him fighting with his publisher about how the uh run has been bad because they're focusing on the wrong things in the book yo now that now that's a conversation that should be had and shit we got your author ass here y'all authors y'all go tuck y'all head away for months and months and months putting your heart and soul in the book to deliver the best product in the world every single time on the book press runs, they just do the messiest shit in the world and take the little excerpts and devalue your work and now get everybody to just talk about this click baby bullshit.
Click baby bullshit might be more prevalent in author press run land than it is in hip hop. And then does this change your opinion of how she's moving or how she is viewed because now she's sticking up for it.
I'm tired of shit. I'm tired of shit.
This is not what it's about. The book is about football or whatever the fuck the book is about.
Yeah, together. Yeah, the book is about my life, my life through football.
Now is she being taken advantage of or is she sticking up for this old man? Is she taking care of this man? Well, here's where it gets interesting. You know what I'm saying? I think that's a great question.
I said she could be the caretaker. I'm sticking up for my sugar? But here's the other piece of this from the author perspective.
And this happens all the time on press runs. This is why the publicist wouldn't be helpful to him.
Because the publicist that was there on that set is the book publicist, not his personal publicist. The book publicist's job is to promote the book, not to promote Bill Belichick.
So she wants all the things. She don't give a fuck with what they ask.
The publicist is not going to intervene in that moment. And with celebrity books, 99.9% of them don't write the book themselves.
So a lot of times on the press run, if I'm an author, and if they want to ask me some salacious shit, and I know I get on the New York Times, I may be okay answering it. But Belichick is in a different space because he didn't write the book.
Nor does he care about being on the New York Times. Exactly.
Because I'm rich already. Right.
So he's not invested in the book journey. Because when you spend three years writing a book, you want it to sell.
You might be like, fuck it, I don't care. Yo, if y'all stop selling that book tomorrow, guess what, buddy? I don't give a fuck.
So then what was the point of having the book written? Because they gave him a check and in exchange, he has to do a certain number of dates. Or I might just want my personal memoir to be out.
We don't know where his health is. We don't know all of that shit is.
I guess. Like, yo, I don't necessarily...
And he probably gave him $5 million. Okay, fair enough.
And he ain't read a word of it. Yeah, but still the book has to involve like a significant, like his story.
If there's somebody who is as notoriously private as him, it's just, it's a little contradictory. You know what I'm saying? But also, he was retired at the time that this book was, I'm assuming, being written and planned to come out.
So that may have been part of his retirement plan. But now he's working again.
So, well, fuck it. We're already creating this shit.
And now I got to do press for it. So I'll do these 10 major outlets.
I want the people that want to know about my life, that want to know about football or how football related and intertwined to my life to read this book. Especially because I've been so private.
Me dating a 23-year-old girl. And want that.
Yes. You can be private and have that book written.
I understand a private person wanting that. Like, this is how you're going to get it.
Because I'm so private, I don't talk. So yeah, let me put this together for all of y'all who've been wanting and having all these questions and wanting to know about my life and everything.
Here you go. Don't ask me shit.
I'm giving it to you. Leave me alone.

I can go back over here and do what I do.

And don't bring my girlfriend

into this.

He might really love this girl

deeply.

Don't bring my girlfriend

into this

because all the media

is going to do

is now slander her name.

Her name going to be

in the public.

But her being on set,

I still think.

I was about to say

the same thing.

I was about to say

the same thing.

Because most people

I interview their girlfriends

stay in the green room.

The only time I see people

on the set

is when there's a concern

about something.

I'm concerned

that you're going to

bring this bullshit up.

Thank you. That's a lot of niggas' bag.
Likeiggas What they do is that when they get When they up when they get money They pay like they weigh Exactly and they want you to take care of them They put whatever they write in and I want you to take care of me Until I go Tracee Ellis really ruined his age concept Forget it man No Bill ain't want that toxic femininity He's a fucking terrorist over there Bill ain't want that you know what I mean Bill ain't want that Tracy Ellis really ruined it we can't even talk about him Al Pacino ain't want that Leonardo they don't want that shit toxic femininity give me that thing you've been playing with the whole time toxic femininity where's. Where's that fucking ball? That hit.

Shout out to Bill.

Shout out to Ashley.

Shout out to CPS. Suck what?

Shout out to Jordan.

I'm 55 years old.

I ain't sucking nothing.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

There you go.

You what?

It's you a crazy freak.

You think that women

no longer want to

give head after a certain age?

No, I think women

of a certain,

I think older women

I'm going to answer you. I think older women back in the day don't view head the same way that 20 year olds view it.
Right now. Right now what? You talking about age? Yeah, I'm talking about women right now.
Why do we keep talking about back in the age? I'm talking about right now, 20, 25, 55 year old women don't like to give head according to you. I didn't say that.
That just sounded like he just said it, right? Their jaws ain't working the same. Yeah, their jaws ain't working the same.
Their jaws ain't working the same. They got a crick in it.
They got a crick in it. Their shit got a crick.
They should be cracking. There are women that are still older, of an older age that look at head like it's nasty.
You can't hold their heads to say it. They get mad if you hold the back of their head.
No, no, no. Mel, we can go there.
Mel, it's women out of an older age that look at head. All right, 1v1.
Just mention Mel. I'm not versus.
It's women of an older age that look at head like it's nasty. I can't.
Nigga, head was nasty to a certain demo. She can't relate, bro.
Okay, but. She's not 55, though.
Read her side. Is it the generation right after Mel or right before Mel? Or is it the cohort of the mid-40s forward? Mel generation, nigga.
I'm trying to get a sense of who this is. Like right before us, I'm 49.
Okay. So that's why you can't relate.
It's people older than you, he's saying. Your cohort is still down with the get down.
But it sounds like he's saying the people born in the... Like the baby boomers? Yeah.
Listen, 50 a 50-year-olds. Baby boomers.
Yo, man, 55-year-olds, even 50, I don't think 50-year-olds still want to get out like that, the face of a woman. What do your friends do? Do your friends do it? You're fucking insane.
What? So y'all like that? Are your friends into it? Into it? Oh, Jesus Christ. Yes, yes, yes.
Emphatically. As a journalist, I just have to ask, what are their names? We don't want girls that say...
We don't want... Where do they live? How you know? I thought you were your friends.
They don't want you either. Y'all thought you were your friends No, no, yes.
Emphatically. As a journalist, I just have to ask what are their names? We don't want girls to say, we don't want, where do they live? How you know? They don't want you either.
Y'all throw you on your friends on the sex. No, no, no.
All right, so you get, so as soon as Nick is coming to, no, no, I'm a cheer. No? No, right? Oh.
I talked to her. I'll be one.
No, I was asking. Mel told us her and her girlfriends don't really be discussing sex like that.
Exactly. They discuss books and vines.
I didn't. You want this water? Maybe she's sleeping.
I didn't see. Fuck out of here.
Listen. We don't have a fucking group chat called Monstars, but we do.
What did you discuss? Sex and books. Nobody want no 50-year-old head, yo.
We talk about sex and books. Sex and books.
Nobody want no 50-year-old head. Nobody want no 50-year You called it...
Put that in the dress again. Go tuck that head away, girl.
You guys are such a... You got a crick in your mouth.
What's that noise? You got cavities, girl. Stop pushing my head down.
You can't take the head push. You ain't got to grab my hair.
Like the young girls do. Young girls.
Young girls. Not young.
They got to grab my hair. You can't do that.
With the old granny dress on. Hey, my.
You can tuck that hair away. Take that shit away.
Put that mu-mu. I don't even need a hat tonight.
Put that mu-mu away. I'm good.
I'm going to get it tomorrow. I'm good.
I'm going to get it tomorrow. I'm going to get it tomorrow.
Hey, yo. They got.
You ain't got to do this. Don't worry about this.
They got leg pressure socks all the way to they knees. Bitch, I don't want to see this.
I know this group is not talking about the physical condition of older women. I know this motherfucking group is not talking.
When is the last time half of y'all saw your dick without moving your fucking bellies out the way? No way. Girl, you locked up.
You locked up recently. Watch it.
You're frying your ass. You locked up.
I'm just saying. Please, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Is that what they do? They pay. That's the point we make.

Really?

Are they the same motherfuckers

that are asking to go 50-50

and what women bring to the table?

Those are the motherfuckers that pay?

No, not the niggas with money.

Okay.

No, not the niggas with money.

The niggas with money.

Okay.

Bill Belichick ain't got to move for sure.

Bill Belichick's fucking money

is not every man's money.

Not even fucking close to it.

The majority of the majority... You guys stop trying to trigger male.
Exactly. What are you talking about? Older women are flexible, nigga.
Watch your fucking mouth. I didn't say nothing.
They do Pilates and shit. Take that.
You can take that head. Take that head and chef something up.
The older ladies, they introduce it. It's head time.
They want you don't get the fuck out of here. They want to introduce topo.
Y'all make an appointment for some ass. You want some sex? They ask stupid questions like that.
No. They want some sex.
Get to it. Yo, y'all tripping, man.
There's a lot of women in their 40s and 50s. Hot sex.
Hot sex. Hot sex.
Hot sex. Hot sex.
Damn, Mark. When you open the door.
Oh, here you go. When she want to surprise you, they're not doing a trench coaching.
Mark, they're about to accuse you of pandering. He went and got his cake by Jalen to accuse you of a marriage to a 46-year-old woman.
What you want me to say? You can't fucking get me. Everybody, ISO on Mark.
Let Mark and Mel do this two-team, two-tag-team shit they do. And then let's hear from people that oppose them.
I'm just saying that women in their 40s and 50s are still very vibrant and sexually active. A thousand percent.
And as somebody married to someone in their 40s. You're married,

so we can't respond

to your property.

We can't respond to that.

I'm very happy

with every part

of my sex life.

Yeah,

but I got a lot of homies

that feel the same way.

And I also know homies

that's married to young girls

that just lay there.

That's what I'm saying.

I think it's just,

I think a lot of it

is who you're talking about.

And so let me tell,

let me ask you guys something.

So let me ask y'all something.

Since you feel this,

since you feel this way about it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You gotta have a pillow, girl..
You don't want a girl with a pillow in their back. Can you fix this? You don't want that, girl.
Let me tell you something. She want the curse.
She want the curse. Now shoulder dislocate all types of shit.
She's sitting here talking about some heads. Injuries in the gym, nigga.
Injuries in the gym, okay? And y'all niggas can barely get off the fucking couch. This is why I keep this behind me for my lumbar spine.
So let me ask y'all this. Since you feel that way about 50-something-year-old head, you guys going to trade in your current girls right now for newer models when they get to that age? It's an interesting question.
It's a very fucking interesting question. So answer it, y'all.
And that's the one I saw coming ahead of time when I said... You, you, you, you, right now.
I got 20 years before that happens. Yeah, I got a long time.
My girl, 32. My girl, 32.
What the fuck is we talking about? We already got the newer models. But y'all think it's talking about marriage.
I'm married. You're talking about...
We did that already. So, I ask again, are y'all going to be trading in your girls for younger models when they get their date? I am going to mute up because I got you.
I'm never trading my girl. I'm never.
I'm marrying that mouth. That mouth is getting married.
Oh my God. I got y'all.
Are you crazy? I saw that trap coming five minutes ago. Hell yeah.
I just fell right into it. Hey, you can put that 50-year-old in it.
You can take that shit and flush that down the toilet. Take it to the bank.
Are you crazy? Lock it up. Why Mel get so mad? I'm not getting mad.
I'm not mad at all. I'm not mad at all.
I just point for me. You can just take your mouth off.
Oh, shit. I got a headache.
Ooh, batter up. Get that mouth out of here, girl.
Get that Harry and Tuckman mouth out of here, girl. Oh, shit.
Fuck out of here. She got the Harriet Tubman.
Not you, not you. Not you, per se.
But get that, girl. Yeah, we done with you, girl.
You can't even keep the one you had, girl. Not you.
Not you guys. You can't keep the one you had, girl.
You and the camera. You and the camera.
Nigga, got him out of there, girl. They don't do the tricks.
Y'all not licking them. What do you know? They call it everything on that song.
What do you know, Mr. Married Man, who's been married for, like, what, 17 years, who has not had any sexual experience with anybody else but his wife? What do you know? That's a good point.
That reads a lot. What do you know? That's a good point.
Got it. As your attorney.
Answer that, though. Got it.
Answer that.

My client.

Answer her, though.

He has a lot of friends

that he talks to.

No, no.

You got a curry dog.

Answer.

I will.

My wife.

My wife.

One mic, y'all.

One mic.

My wife age fine as one.

Nigga, she knows what to do.

She has.

We have fun.

And, you know, my wife look good.

She's amazing.

And she knows what to do.

I enjoy my sex life.

I'm not talking about me.

And my wife is not in her 50s. Okay.
I know that. I know she's not.
Late 30s. You know what I'm saying? So we don't speak the same language.
But if she get there, I'm going to work with her. If.
When she gets there, I'm going to work with her. Why do you think that her abilities are going to change space? She was doing good right to the end.
Y'all stop. Mel is trying to talk.
Stop. I'm just trying to find out.
Y'all do that enough up here. Let's make space for Mel.
Why do you think that her abilities are going to change space? He was doing good right to the end. Yo, y'all stop.
Mel is trying to talk. Stop.
I'm just trying to find out. Y'all do that enough up here.
That's true. Let's make space for Mel.
Why do you think that her... Let's give her good space.
Say space. Space is.
Really? That's important. Why do you think that her abilities are going to change as she changes? Her abilities are not going to change at all.
I can't speak to that. Listen, I'm just rolling with the time, sis.
But I can speak about... I went into type...
G gilfs. And y'all didn't look like y'all was doing too well in the gilfs category.
I'm not a gilf. Okay.
You know what I'm saying? It's not my category for it, so I don't know. Just working in a nursing home before? Oh.
They are getting you popping. Oh, my God.
They are getting you popping in the nursing homes. What? That's how you call crack.
They have the hot... Right.
The dorm. And then you have the still...
Now it's all... That's right.
Let's call a bedpan, Mark. No.
Chlamydia is really high in nursing homes. It is.
And a lot of sex happens in nursing homes. Yes.
And when I talk... And the old men in there...
Man, that don't mean it's good sex. My nigga, that's Blair, the same bitch fucking old nursing homes.
You say it's just one. It's just.
Blanche in there giving a shit to everybody. What the fuck are you talking about? She don't remember.
She got Alzheimer's. Listen, no, that's not what's happening happening There's a lot of healthy Good sex happening Over 50 And over 60 And over 70 Just want y'all to know Not from personal experience But from what the people In their home told me You gotta just see If you know a home girl Let me just say If you know a home girl If you know a home girl If you know a home girl Close to 50 Right All my home girls Close tos close to 50.
I know we're telling jokes, but 50 is not old. No, it's not old.
Now that we there. Right.
It was only old. Yo, when we was 30, we was like 50.
It was only old in regards to like head. Outside of that.
Close to 52. And they can't really, they moving around, bouncing around, nigga.

Shit feel like, what's that shit?

Sky zone, nigga.

Just, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

There's something missing in the department, nigga.

And niggas at certain ages, we like to face off.

Something missing, gang.

They can't really keep it.

If you 50, come over with some books.

Yeah, come over with a muumuu, with your compression socks.

Uber some food, Uber me some food. With some vines around your neck.
Yeah, what else you could do? Step on my back. Stand on my back at 50.
You could do that. Do the little cup shit in the back, the cup.
Yeah, acupuncture. You could do the acupuncture together.
You could do my nails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like shit like that. Yeah.
Ooh, I can't wait for y'all to talk. Like comfort shit.
Like manicure together. Yeah.
Watch this young bitch suck my... You can look.
You can look. Right? Ooh, I can't wait to...
When you're 50, we're going to play this tape back. Right.
Do you think... But this conversation is not about us being 50.
Yeah. No, I'm just saying your perspective is going to change on I think you'll be like I don't want no 60 year old head or 70 year old.
Mark this is not my perspective now. I'm just triggering Mal.
Oh that's solid. Okay.
I don't believe none of this. I don't subscribe to what I'm saying.
I'm just going to keep going till she storms out, cries, blows,

gives herself away.

I'm not.

I'm not.

Okay, so then take that.

All right, no, I'm kidding.

Stop it.

Come on.

Stop.

You're wrong.

Leave her alone.

Any who's.

It might have worked.

You think you fire

on the cunnilingus tip?

Who me?

Yeah.

Come on. I'm asking.
I don Who, me? Yeah. Come on.

I'm asking.

I don't talk my personal business.

I don't talk my personal business.

I don't talk my personal business.

It's just a question.

I am good with what I do.

I don't talk my personal business, man.

But.

Sniper position, like I don't.

Lay it down.

Yeah, you can't do sniper.

How you doing, nigga? How you doing, nigga? Huh? Yo. You sit on my face, nigga? You want to be suffocating, you birdass nigga? Watch your fucking mouth, you freak boy.
He probably can't do the sniper. That nigga be high as hell on a sniper.
That nigga be high. Anyway.
What up? What up? What else What else

What else we got

Can you laugh

Joe that is an interesting question

Can we just poll the room real quick

Please

I'd love that

Because we talk about women

And how well they perform

But how well do y'all perform

How would you

Assess yourselves

I was going to answer Mel

When she was like

What make you think

Women can't get busy at 55

Men can't get busy at 55

Thank you. Answer Mel When she was like What make you think Women can't get busy At 55 Men can't get busy At 55 It's a It's a decline My nigga For everybody involved And that's okay Even the cunnilingus I don't think With that time? This shit come together Bro Yeah Wait Wait what? He eating some air right now.
Nigga, this shit got spots on it, nigga. You got crater tongue, man.
Yo, you say you fell off with that tongue right there? Let me see. I said men, my nigga.
Man, nigga. You the slip and slide of that shit.
Slipp and slide, get loose. More punch to the bowl of juice, nigga.
Fuck out of out. Nah, if your tongue fell off, nah, we got to have a ceremony in Newark.

We got to have horse and carriages down the street, nigga.

If your tongue fell off, oh, shit. God damn, man.

Yo, I remember.

All right, so Ish is saying that 55 niggas fall off.

Before 50, y'all read an article the other day that said, yo, niggas before 40 now, like a huge, a nice percentage of men before 40 years old are experiencing ED. Yeah.
Before 40. Wow.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, Slim Thug the other day was talking.
Oh, man. He's one of my favorite people to listen to now.
He's up there with. Shout out to Slim Thug.
Terrence Howard.

Let me just catch y'all up because I know y'all missed it.

Slim Thug saw Meg Thee Stallion kept performing some of his songs.

So he said, I think she likes me.

Meg at Rolling Loud said, I don't. I just like your songs.
Slim Thug, in his response video, started saying, started saying, nah, on second thought, that's too much for me. Because Meg is a little 20-something, however old she is.
and He said, I can't pop a Viagra every day at my age. Then I was taking a bat.
I said, nigga, but this might be to your point. I'm like, nigga, you need a Viagra every day.
You ain't't never gonna hit him with a little of that natty.

Oh, that's your rat?

At no point,

are you gonna try to just climb a mountain

on the natty tip?

But, whatever.

I just thought it was funny.

Some girls you could look at

and it just looked like too much of a headache.

A long day.

It just looked like a lot.

There's a lot going on.

Yeah.

Don't come over here with all that hippity hop hop hop dancing around shit. Bitch.
Holy shit. Great topic you guys.
That was a great topic. Sure know how to come alive.
That's it? Yeah. We're trying to tell y'all what the streets be saying about that 50 year old headold head.
Ish, you always stretch out like that, boy. Like, that's just, like, that's your, I was talking to Ice about.
That's your go-to position, though. He said he'd be paying for it.
Why he gonna pay and work? You don't believe you putting the work at a certain age anymore? Oh, no, I don't, I don't think like that. Oh, you put working, huh? You trying, man? Hey, honey, you did a little shimmy in the house, in the rooms? It's your freak, boy.
What else needs our attention? Boy, that was funny. That was a lot of fun, you guys.
Y'all are nuts. All right.
We're waiting on you to tell the show. I'll take it upon myself.
I just want to say before we end that recently at the Millennium Tour, B2K reunited again. So I want to hit the round of applause real quick.
Talk about getting the most out of Stockholm Syndrome. Key out.

Talk about being broke.

That little saint money ain't spending no more. That's what that means.

That's all I heard.

I only want to bring this up because Omarion, no more than three months ago,

was on The Breakfast Club saying, I do not speak to anybody in B2K.

I do not have a relationship with anybody in B2K. And I would like to keep it that way.
No love lost. He said that.
Now, I was at the last Millennium Tour. And B2K was there.
And I think they've done this breakup public fight thing at least nine times. At this point, they like the fucking bartenders that throw retirement parties.
They're like, oh, I'm leaving the game. Guess when the game come back? These niggas then came back about nine fucking times.
Guess when they come back? When they break up with the nigga? There you go. That's the realest shit right there.
What the fuck is you talking about? But I guess where I'm confused is Amarion was already on his tour.

It's not like

he needed the reunion

to be on tour.

He was on tour.

So what he just had

a change of heart.

What's the mother niggas name?

Didn't he do some shit

on the tour

where he took the other music off?

Lil Fizz.

Was it,

didn't that happen

on the last tour?

Yes.

Amarion.

Where he kept my man

from being on the tour

because he was fucking

with his baby mom

and shit like that?

Yeah, he was with April for a minute. It was a lot going on I'm just saying Mario My bad I'm sorry sir My bad Bump bump bump Yeah What the fuck Did you talk about They've been through so much They seem like The most dysfunctional Not the most They seem like One of those Dysfunctional people Where they also have A lot of trauma together And a lot of And they grew up together together and I think, in the business, and I think they just can't, they can't leave each other alone.
And I think- The other ones, a lot of them can't get no money outside of B2K. They can't get no money.
I get why Fizz and Raz B and Jay Boog would want to reunite, but when I saw Mariano on his last little press run, he was like, I'm never coming in with them. Like Joe said, I'm never getting with these people again.
80-20, sir. 80-20 80-20 is crazy But probably You would need To get them Back in the building Yeah What Please I don't know If I could get over Somebody As close What Raz did I mean not what Raz What Fizz did I'm good I couldn't get over That shit I'm good Nigga Them niggas can get over If the bills bills needed to get paid.
We've seen worse, where niggas have been completely fucked, paused, by people in the industry and then run right back on tour with them because the bills have to get paid. I thought Omari was up enough on his own tour to not have to do that, but you're right.
You're right. All right, well, good luck.
Good luck to all parties involved. Let me mind my black- business.
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
That's it. Also, before we go, they did that 100-day rating thing on Trump.
Says he has the lowest 100-day approval score in the history of all how many presidents there's been. What do you know? Shocker to anybody? No, no.
What a wow. Wowzers.
would have never guessed that what a thunk and saquon yeah man four i love saquon so i ain't gonna i ain't gonna drag him through the mud on this one yeah and i love nelly so i ain't gonna drag yo at some point niggas gotta get used to people just having different views and opinions to each his own has to be a thing we don't have to agree with everybody I wouldn't go golfing with the niggas but I ain't I ain't about to slam Saquon for it and y'all not about to do it neither when he rush for 2500 yards next year that's why I'm not talking too much shit because I'm gonna be on his dick in about six months also I wanna double down in my hey. Right.
Hey, Big Say. Big Say.
Kwani. Oh, my God, bro.
Fuck out of here. What? What? Nigga, I'm about to prove a point that we made earlier, nigga.
That's why I got the phone wire. What the fuck are you doing? Also, while we're on this, I want to double down.
I think the Giants had an amazing draft. The Giants had an amazing day, too.
It's your Olympics. We got Cam Skeeterbo, the running back.
The tough guy. I like him.
I like the other O-line dude. He New York-ish.
Huh? Sorry. He New York-ish.
Yep. New York just has an identity.
That's it. He look like one of them Staten Island, New York.
Yo, J.O., I'm on the podcast. Can you tell these niggas...
He called his son? No, J.O., not J.R. Oh.
J.O., can you tell these niggas what my nickname was when I was younger, please? Uh, it was two of them. It was T.J.
and his Lionheart. Thank you.
We got it. Thanks, J.O.
These niggas, they didn't call me Lionheart when I was younger. You text J.O.
like... No, I'm just...
That nigga won't fight anybody. He's been up here for a few years.
Ain't bust a grape in a fruit fight. Nah, that nigga fuck up.
He been up here for a while. Niggas have pressed him, threatened him, swung on him.
He ain't do nothing. Yo, listen.
I ain't gonna hold you. That nigga been through a whole lot more than a little bit.
Back in the day. Back in the day.
J.O., thank you. I'm gonna get this nigga.
A long time ago. Like a war story you're saying.
Watch your fucking mouth when you talk on me, nigga. My name was a liar.
I mean, we all scrapped when we was 13, nigga. I'm a liar.
What do you think you me? It's a funny name. You said you were going to ask Mark, what was his street nickname? Mark, what was your street name growing up? I had a couple.
Miz and Alien. What? Miz was the most common one.
Miz? Miz. M-I-Z? Yeah.
Yeah. So in urban America, there came a moment where, you know, you started putting like Miz art.
It's the Miz art. And so people call it Riz, like that.
And so it just became, Mark became Miz. You know what I mean? Why were you the alien? Because I had a big ass head.
Oh. I had a big ass head.
It was alienation. Well, that's the case.
Then Ice is the mega alien. That nigga.
The mother alien. Stop.
Big daddy alien. If your head is big.
That nigga. That's the final boss.
The alien. The cruise ship.
The light that brought niggas up. The beam.

What was that shit?

The round head.

Freeze head, boys.

That nigga on Independence Day.

Oh, my Lord.

The light, the light.

I hate bitching everyone.

Are y'all going to go to your daughter's school for career day?

I go to wherever they have. I'm never going to school.
I hate that shit. I haven't.
Girl dads are so sassy. Why y'all can't just answer that? No, yes.
I just said yes. If they were to have that, I would go.
No, she said no. Career day? It's not really my thing.
Nigga, I'd be at fucking Pancakes with Dad. I go to all that shit.
I'm saying if your daughter asks you to go. Yes.
yes thousand percent maybe I would I love we give these terrible answers and then whispers it every time I think I know what he'll say to some shit he tried to throw like a curl because you like that you like to talk to you the youth and inspire the youth and you actually have like a couple careers you could lay out. I think that shit would be dope.
You went to Gilly Career Day at the Robert Tree up there. I didn't go to Gilly's Career Day.
What the fuck type of shit is that? You went to InvestFest, nigga. Go to Career Day.
I didn't go to... InvestFest is Career Day.
It's a dope career day. I've never spoken at InvestFest.
Can you say spoke? Well, I know. You didn't speak there.
Oh. Gotcha.
He be walking into it. You didn't do no speaking there.
We know that part. They add speakers.
He bought the gold package. Yeah, yeah.
He was there as a customer. Yeah, as a customer.
Custy. Nah.
Oh, shit. Yo, yo, yo.
You know how you got to do the work to get a Grammy? He was there just making rounds, showing his face. Is that more? Disrespectful.
Would you do career day? I would if my daughter asked me, yeah. My kid would have to really ask hard.
I hate the parents I hate. Why? So my answer was terrible, but your answer is they would have to really ask hard.
Well,'t Specify as to why You would go He got a PhD Yeah they gotta ask him hard The kid? Oh I didn't think He meant the kids He said my kid Really gotta ask The school I thought he meant the school The school yeah If my kid asked me yes If your kid asked you The kid yes But I'm saying But it would My point is I would do it for my kid but i would hate to do it because the school like there comes a moment and all y'all i'm sure been this when the parents figure out what you do and then they just get real joe like they just start wanting to ask for shit want all this shit i hate talking to the parents they want favors they want hookups and that's why i don't like the career day because it's the parents the kids are fine that's why i don't read it through my kid's school no more i went to my little brother's something they was doing at their school and went up there and spoke. Well, I was supposed to speak, but I was famous, so I just had to walk in there.
It was like, ah! I didn't know the teachers came down. This is your oldest kid.
You said you went to your brother's. Let's let the joke rock, man.
I said my little brother brothers. And this was a few years ago.
I want to say maybe four or five years ago, but they was really appreciative. I've done a bunch of little shows.
Up there in the Bronx. It's not so bad.
You can do it. Yeah, man.
What career would you talk about? Would you do the media career or would you do the real estate career?

Now we're getting

to the good questions.

Now we're getting

to the real estate.

Hey guys.

What'd you say?

Don't bail them out.

If I did it?

Yeah.

Real estate and construction.

Separate, separate.

Would you wear

that's that-ish merch?

I don't know.

I doubt it.

You would be

a construction worker.

When you talk about real estate on other podcasts, are you talking real estate or is it podcasting it's both that was the end I answered you oh my god go ahead I'm listening I'm now have nothing I got some more shit to more shit to say. No, I don't.
He done. He think you got the gun just waiting.
Yeah, I told him. I told him from early.
Be clear. I'm on peace with him.
I got enough. All right.
All right. We got sleepers.
It's a fucking real estate, nigga. I smacked the shit out of him.
Real estate. When you did that podcast, though, man.
Hey, you sick of him with that shit? That shit is like a scam at this point. Nigga.
What's the scam? You're a podcaster. You been out the real estate guy.
I'm not out the game. You out the game.
I'm not, though. You are.
Okay. You ain't did nothing.
That's what you think. I'm telling you.
No, you're not telling me you're a podcaster. Stop.
You're a rapper. I'm telling them.
I am. All right.
That nigga is immature. Yo, they look like, they like kids.
They, it's they, huh? It's y'all, bro. I can't help y'all.
All. All this real estate shit.
Nigga. Nigga gonna turn the laptop.

Block.

Fuck.

Ain't no nothing new went up, nigga.

You broadcasting that.

What the fuck you talking about?

Nigga, credit score in the bottom now.

Who bottom?

You.

You can't get the loan, the refi taken for half a nigga.

Mute up, nigga.

You can't even get the refi, pop. You a podcaster, nigga.
I seen you on nine podcasts yesterday. Shut up.
No, you didn't. Some real estate.
But it's okay. Seas went down.
Yeah, nigga. I ain't gonna lie.
I ain't gonna lie. That's fly, though, that podcast that you doing, yo.
I had a couple of questions, but that's fly. Like, when you did it, didn't Mandy and them move to, like, Atlanta? So that means you took a flight.
I was like, oh, this nigga is moving. You ain't put niggas on.
Nigga, I would have flew out there, nigga. Oh, my God.
Kyle and them niggas live out there. I would have came out there and flew with some contact.
Nigga, introduce you. What are you talking about, fam? You had to fly out there to go in the pod, right? No.
Oh, it came to you. Podcast was shot in Brooklyn.
It came to you. That's a trick.
Yeah. No, you're trying to be funny.
Put your little stubby hands back. Fuck out of here.
All right, man. Let me see.
I am going with, I would have played that Dustin Conrad record, but I'm going to go with a different vibe today just because the weather is breaking. Feeling good.
Feeling great. I'm with the best crew in the fucking universe.
Who the fuck are they dealing with?

Full crew.

Fully.

All right.

Ira Starr, WizKid.

This record is called

Gimme That.

So good. I'm tired I'm tired

Come on

No, so bad Baby, now I'm a race with a run To make you no come with time Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, diallo If I give you my love Make you no disappointment Me I catch you from mind though Diallo, diallo If I give you my love Make you no disappointment Me I catch you from mind though Goddamn, a rapper a goddamn Get away your body make me feel excited Loving you they put me on the tip of myself Girl not only you they make me stick to one girl Goddamn, they let you again goddamn Picture perfect, know they minded Keep it private, fuck on bum ball life If you need me, baby, I'll be right there One more time for money to you Bum bank show you, get me with you Do me many things, you'll hear me with you I'm ready, you get ready to Give me that love If you give me me, I don't go like four Give me, make I kill my samco Feelings got me hitting on the freaky dance floor Make you give me me I no go like go Give me me kak yo my zanko Feelings go me hitting on the freaky that slow Make you give me that love If you give me me I no go like go Make you give me me kak yo my zanko Feelings go me hitting on the freaky that slow Diallo, diallo If I give you my love Make you not disappointed, I got you from my door Diallo, diallo If I give you my love, make you not disappointed Me, I got you from my door So many people won't lick my stew So baby chill me, cause I'll serve your tooth And if I undo your two by two You feel too scream, you feel losing your cool So many reasons are written in the stars Oh my God, you're the reason I do what I do So baby make you give me your love Make you give me that love Make you give me me, I don't go like gold Make me make I kill myself, ohings gon' be hitting on the freaky dance floor Make you give me that love If you give me me I don't go like oh Make you give me me a girl my circle Feelings gon' be hitting on the freaky dance floor Diallo, diallo If I give you my love Make you not disappoint me Me I got you for my door Diallo, diallo If I give you my love, make you no disappointed. Me, I got you for my door.
Diallo, diallo. If I give you my love, make you no disappointed.
Me, I got you for my door. Brand new music, Ira Star, Wizkid.
That record is called Give give me that available in your phones and on dsb's right this very second of five all right man it's 80 degrees, which I always call

Max B Degrees.

Well, give him some of that

she don't put it down for you.

No.

So, no.

This is brand new old music,

new old music,

old, old, old music.

This is Max B,

Blow Me a Dub remix.

This nigga says she's a big deal.

She's a baby. Got the proper salad poppin' on the stove Poppin' on the stove And the blowin' the dub Shit Contemplatin' by my trip to the Bahamas as I spent Through my condo and my caboclon Pajamas like I peed the split but it may be moms Glowin' on some shit Probably bigger than my baby arms Pissed the lady off so she come to me for comfort Three Jebede moms now now she come to me For cum squirts, gun work Got it if the nigga buzz, pop it out The nigga mug, watch the figure Ride, I'm tryna see this nigga die Ride, I ain't giving no Mercy, baby needs shoes And my niggas is thirsty Lady want a nigga back in Fucking fat bitch, I keep The extra Mac 10, yeah You can find me in the trap, on the 8M, pumpers in the store, right next to the Jamaican coat I'ma shake him, break him, take him to the basket, your mama pick the shoe, while they lay you in your casket I got a 50, it's a biffy, it's a sourling and muscle, yeah, muscle I was ridin' in the bucket the bucket, he was riding in the chop-chop Still love the whip, but now we ain't got the power Solid popping on the stove And I'm blowing it up Just when I thought I might have seen enough Mama in the room screaming, beat me up

My brothers used to beat me up

Meet me up top with a helipop

Nigga, you climb, I'ma meet you in my helicopter

I would never stop till the day I die

Even then, they praise me as the great one

They rape me at an even TNT

I mean, something real wavy in the drive-thru

You can hide, nigga, I'ma find you

Must stop behind you

Don't a nigga's style come closer to the wave

Thank you. See the man, something real wavy in the drive-thru You can hide, nigga, I'ma find you Must stop behind you Don't a nigga's style come closer to the wave, man Nigga, I'm a main man, caveman Had to do my A in the state, man That's an old chapter in my life Like the break dance, pace and Back and forth, thinking about Will he ever do the time? Can he go to jail if he didn't really do the crime crime? Poppa in the staircase, doing lines, got his energy all up Nigga, we ball up, like that owl I got a 50th, it's a brinth, it's sour, thingy and my soul I was riding in the bucket, he was riding in the drop top, whoa I still love the whipping, now when he ain't got the powder, so he's popping on the stove And the flow and the dough, dough, dough They tryna push a nigga out of the way They tryna blackball a nigga tryna take a nigga out of the game Tryna but since I left they ain't rappin' the same Fuck a man with Baker Bell, you might not be rappin' again Baby, baby, baby My money set my cake up, only got 23 days in the wake up Pull a 40 out and get this man in makeup Tear your face up, bulletproof from the waist up Kill my brother, he was 17 Put it in his head, the voices they would never leave He watching over, he be telling me Max, take your time, no one rush Your bitches tip me with the pussy, I'ma fuck it I got a 50, it's a 50, it's a sourling and muscle I was riding in the bucket, he was riding in the drop shop, bro I still love the whipping, hell again, got the power salad popping on the stove.
Popping on the stove.

And the blow in the dub.

Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. And again, that's new old, old, old music.

That's Max B, Blow Me a Dub, Remix, Free the Boss Dawn.

I, too, am playing old, old music.

It was the 30-day anniversary of Ice's favorite album,

The Infamous, the other day.

So I am playing, what did I say? You said 30 day.

30 year, my bad.

Feels like 30 days old.

I'm playing right back at you.

That's my music. 94, 95 It's all about crime Check it out now, drug for your life Or you wanna get your heat, whatever We can die together As long as I send your maggot ass to the essence I don't give a fuck about my presence I'm lost in the blocks of hate Can't wait for the next crab nigga to step and meet fate I'm lethal when I see you There is no secret 24-7, Mac 11 is my people So why you wanna end your little life like this?

Cause now you bump heads with kids that's lifeless.

I live by the day only if I survive the last night.

Damn right, I ain't trying to fight.

We can settle this like some grown men on the concrete floor.

My slugs will put a stop to your hardcore.

Ways of action, I'll grab the gap then. Ain't no turning back when I start blasting.

Pick up the handle and insert the potion. Cock the shit back in a calm like motion No signs of anger or fear cause you the one in danger Never share your plans with a stranger Where we going? I'm fucking rockin' on you kid, now I got you You got the heart to get busy without your crew Let's get it on nigga, do what we gotta do You bucking me, I'm bucking right back at you Check it out, check it out, check it out, man Check it out, check it out, check it out, now Check it out, check it out, check it out now Check it out, check it out, check it out now Fuck where you at, kid, that's where you from Cause where I'm from, niggas pack nothing but the big guns Around my way, niggas don't got more foul-to-towners Come through front and they get stuck with the three-pounder The loud sounder, air ringer, and I'ma point the finger All you wanna be gunslingers, you got a real ice wheel But are you really real? Step to the hill and I'ma test your gun skills Cause real niggas don't try to profile, you're just a chump who needs to get drunk to fuck wow But swing that bullshit this way, and I'ma make a visit to the bridge A motherfucking short state, Queensbridge, that's where I'm from The place the stars are born and phony rappers get done Six blocks and you might not make it through What you gonna do when my whole crew is blazing at you With Maxim text and Linda get your tone fresh You thought that you could come around my way and be stupid fuck What the hell you smoking? What the fuck possession? To come out your face, now I have to ret you Throw all my ts, black masks and black sugar Twist a nigga cap and jump in the J30 Cause I'm putting a drop on you kid, now I got you You got the heart to get, piss split out, you're cool Let's get it on, it'll tell you what we gotta do You bucking me, I'm bucking right back at you Who's the richest nigga in the project? Who got it locked? Rocking convertibles, drop chops and mad hot You see that whiz kid and players on his team? Who's organized? All eyeballs is on clean And your whole clique got nothin' but raw shit Whip after whip, stay flashin' your dick on tricks Your whole crew's ravishin' Teams untouchable in the jungle Bangin' Oz, Mardy, and Woo There's money out there, guns catch crumbs Those are your sons,umps is in the no-rocks Bitches holdin' your guns You know it's out here Thousands of grams wrapped in saran Seal tight, keep the freshness That's how he expands Avenger, tuck your guns up Now surrender Get an engine on the island Clusterbridge, boy, remember Follow them thugs sellin' drugs And he's strugglin' The gang got him buggin' I try to tell him slow down cousin But he vexed And niggas gettin' wet up in the projects But with no doubt Shorty's out for his son He's killing drugs and he's struggling, the gang got him bugging I try to tell him slow down cousin, but he vexed And niggas getting wet up in the projects But with no doubt short he's out for his free specs But is his brain insane from the lie? From smoking that 118 Chinese tie? Why? A nigga just died last week As he swore he was grown and he's a thug in the street But it's like that, my crew pump cracks and we packed max His eyes is wide with the resi monkey on his back.
But I'm stressed and he need to be blessed with a fire pack. Don't even go there because it ain't like that.
Slow down, baby. He said, what you trying to play me? You must be crazy.
Pull out the heat and no more blatant. Then he was Swayze.
The shot must have dazed me. Thug selling drugs, bust a suck, but he ain't crazy.
It's right back at you. Mobb Deep, Ghost, Ray, Noid.
Classic, classic, classic, classic shit. Fucking right, Freeze.
Fucking right, Freeze. Fucking right, Freeze.
This guy's a dota. Ish.
I still can't believe it. It's crazy, bro.
Explain it. But go ahead.
I'm going to old music too.

I'm playing Mario, friend of the show, Drowning.

I never thought I'd be in between her legs While I'm still thinking about you And I'm in too deep to pull out now She's suffering while I feel good When I said we should stop You didn't wanna save me You didn't wanna shave me Now my feet can't touch the ground I'm going to bring it down The closer I get to you, baby Your words are rising heart is a falling But I'm so close to you, baby, in the way I'm thinking I'm sinking, I'm not swimming, and your waters are drowning, drowning, drowning My hands underwater, the tears overflowing Please stop me from drownin', drownin', drownin' Headaches won't stop fallin' and nobody keeps callin'

I'll drown it out for now

Tell you the truth, I could get used to this

But I don't wanna suffocate you

I'm not a, I could still lose When I said we should stop, you didn't wanna say Now my feet can't touch the ground, I'm going down The closer I get to you, baby Your worries are rising, my heart tears are falling But I'm so close to you, baby Either way I'm thinking I'm sinking, I'm not swimming In your waters, I'm drowning, drowning, drowning My heat's underwater Your tears overflowing Please stop me from drowning, drowning, drowning Your tears won't stop falling and nobody keeps calling I'll drown it out for now I'ma drown it out for now I'll drown it out for now The closer I get to you, baby Your waters are rising While her tears are falling But I'm so close to you, baby Either way I'm thinking I'm sinking, I'm not swimming In your waters,'m drowning, drowning, drowning My hands on your heart, your tears overflow Can't stop me from drowning, drowning, drowning Head tears don't stop falling, and nobody keeps calling I'll drown it out for now Drown, drown, drown Drown, drown, drown That's Mario drowning. Drowning without your love.
Drowning when you're away from me. Feels like I'm underwater and I can't swim.
Feels like I can't even breathe without you when you out of town and I'm alone. Feels like drowning, y'all.
Just come home. Just come home.
That's it. Home ain't even home.
None of the houses I build is home. None of them feel like home.
They're just doors. Without you.
Doors. And the great words of Luther.
A house is not a home. A house is not a home.
Look, even Mel know that one is. Come on.
Come on, wake up, buddy. Wake up over there.
Hey Mel, what you playing for us today? I am going to play a new single by Leon Thomas and Halle Bailey. It's called Rather Be Alone.
And it's that Halle Berry unfollowed that Beyonce page. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Trying to do this for the bulk of us

Oh, fuck it, man. Yo, what happened? I'm getting on, catching your phone I'm running down the landscape, losing your direction Details matter, I pay attention Bagging off your money, hitting all your dough Always leave me wanting more Cause I'm beneath the bone, and I'm used to having control This gives a cry, I'm fed up the soul Just brought up in here, touching on some hands Ain't your own way, but ain't for the step Watch out on me, please all your check My heart's putting through, I'm wearing my mask I let me alone, I let me alone Then I'm gonna be alone I'm wearing a bed I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed

I'm wearing a bed I'm losing my mind I'm thinking of you all of the time Cause without you I'm crazy, you're dangerous, my baby We're broken but beautiful

Don't you give up upon me, baby

Rock your arms tight around me every day

Without you I'm afraid

But you'd rather be alone, rather be alone

Than in a broken home, you'd rather be alone, you'd rather be alone Than in a broken home, you'd rather be alone I'm trying to do this for the bulk of us Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh- oh, oh, though. We fucking with real singers now.
Mark? I went with old music, too. Fulfilling some hip-hop hit today, so I went with,lection Eternal's album Just Begun featuring J.Electronic and J.
Cole and Most F. We've only just been deep.
I like this. Hey, yo, hot tap.
Give me a second, man. A lot of pressure on this one.
Drilling like portabellos and murdering instrumentals Cause a rap with the conscience of villains, killers and monsters So we're feeling our honor, so still fulfilling the promise So nice to kill them with kindness Hitting like Muhammad Ali, you more like Chachiyana All this is probably karma, you just honored to follow Whether it's God Almighty or the Almighty Dalla We follow the prophets like Islamics or the Dalai Lama Your bullet points so hollow, they can probably pierce body armor Rook in the scope, my people still a-talk. Smile on my face, tears of a sad clown.
Feeling out of place as I whistle a cab down. If I tip extra, can I huff a cig? Blow my smoke out the window, dropping ashes on the bridge.
I'm in New York now like Akeem and Simi was. Trying to get the lobby door open from a semi-bus.
I just wanna go to the slum and throw my money on the floor like the notorious bum Build a home, teach a class, start a revolution Free the mind, heal the body, talk and evolution This that black Elohim Anunnaki rap That Farrakhan, Akeem, Olajuwon, Kaddafi rap I dedicate this to my niggas in New Orleans Rockin' black and gold stockin' caps and thirdly Shaki hats I'm in the courtroom screamin' Who that on the devil? Servin' gumbo with a shovel, dawg I'm on another level Me and Kwame, we come together Like two pieces of metal We magnetizin' the ghetto Now here's the memo I'm a rebel without a cause A bezel without no flaws And shawty, you straight Bet you look way better without no draws And sweat out this alcohol Bet I'm about to ball never let up a cat, I just crept up without applause Fed up with all the frauds, and left y'all without a job The center of attention, this is clever, I'm Pal Gasol Really though, I'm LeBron, really though got my mind On this new school of rappers, I would really go Columbine And throw up the diamond sign, boy you know I'ma shine Flow is in Ramadan, cause couple years ago The game had they pajamas on But now they on my dick man I should throw a condom on Ay cuz a nigga coming raw like I ain't got one on And I ain't stopping nor copping no please I just like a low squeeze dog I'm on a higher level I'm on top of nose bleeds Niggas say they sick but when they rock they don't sneeze Like a nigga on the block waving his glopapper won't squeeze Please, hey Hold your applause until the ceremony end Your truly, truly best yet again a noble buy and tip Super magic, Africa, Derek Head Mysterious Master Jim, Blacker Pan, Arrowhead With a long barrel stem and his apparel fresh Harbor light shining out the black power grid With the black power grip and pure power don't power drip Push the cellar seal and never make the tower tip The Gladwell point of Avalon Palace All about nothing where it's all about the dollar And mansions on the fault line of a shaky market The devil at the dance hall thirsty for a partner Get off him There is not a parcel or a fortune or a measure of a fortune More awesome Gorgeous The funky four horsemen And one more With high tech On the score One small Of course You're welcome Thanks Appreciation For your participation Special dedication Celebration It's just begun

Reflection Eternal

Talib and Hitek

Most Def

J. Cole and J.
Leck

Yeah, I played that record before

That's a great record

J. Cole went crazy on them old niggas

J. Leck spoke that one the best

I was gonna say

I think J. Leck killed it

J. Leck spoke it

I think he ate that shit the best

Pause, yeah, that's crazy

That was wild

It's just crazy

Cole ripped too though

Cole got busy, but

I think it was J. Leck

For me

Thank you. That was crazy.
That was wild. It's just crazy.
Cole ripped too though.

Cole got busy,

but I think it was J-Elect.

For me.

But teach though.

Yeah.

Why I ain't looking

all stupid in the face?

Nah, I'm just laughing at it.

I say J. Cole smoked

them old niggas.

That made me want to hit looking for trouble. I can't take his opinion on rap too seriously.
He said something to me that was a little out of bounds. What did he say? I didn't even hear it.
I can't even. Was that bad? What'd you say? Well, guess.
Guess what you said. You know, he remember.
You don't need to repeat it. You're going to play with him in the lines.
You would have've jumped in that floor right there then what would've happened then what would've happened I don't know four niggas smoked sound like four niggas smoked to me okay what you saying Joe was so crazy I don't know what the fuck you talking to Joe could definitely be in that cipher I don't know who the fuck you think you talking to he would've got a couple of them out of that cipher boy and I think he'd've got most of them out of that cipher because you know Joe got his list oh that's true too Yeah, he might have put a couple of them out of that side. Boy.
And I think he'd have got most of them out of that side because some of them. You know how to joke about his list.
Oh, that's true, too. He might have put a lot of sauce on it.
Yeah, all right. I don't even know if you could have rolled that beat like that.
Maybe not. Maybe not.
The world will never know. The world will never know.
That's why retirement is beautiful. You ain't got to do something you did already.
You ain't got to answer that. You ain't got to do nothing you did already.
You ain't cleaning them up?

Huh?

You cleaned them up?

I cleaned everybody up. No.
I cleaned everybody up. You ain't cleaning up that J- That- Cool.
No, it was just a couple niggas I didn't clean up. Okay.
Most niggas I cleaned up. Most of the times I appeared it was like the boogeyman was there.
You pulled the broom out sometimes. Most of the times I was there it was like the boogeyman was there.
But I don't have to do that anymore. Gotcha.
Right? I did that already. Gotcha.

These guys are crazy. I'm not saying nothing.

I can't swing back because then it'd look like I'm playing dirty.

What would be your swing back?

I can't.

I love him too much.

Can't say nothing too loud.

Hypothetically.

Yeah.

No.

That would be hurtful. Okay.
All right. Can't hypothetically hurt hypothetically.
Yeah. No.
That would

be hurtful.

Okay.

Can't

hypothetically

hurt your

friend.

But then

that causes

real feelings.

You can't.

There's nothing

hypothetical about

feelings.

Thank you,

Corey.

Oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh,

oh, Thank you. All right now.
There'll be music left to write Ahhhh What else could I do? I'm so inspired by you That hasn't happened for the longest time Once I thought my innocence was gone Now I know that happiness goes on That's where you found me When you put your arms around me I haven't been there for the longest time For the longest time For the longest time For the longest time No, you gotta let the hop All right, who never heard this song? Me? Ice. I'll tell you right now.
Looking around the room. I had to shazam that shit real quick.
I'm like, what the fuck are they singing? You never heard this song? You never heard this song? This cannot be a music podcast. You gotta let the hop You gotta let the hop You gotta let it's a personality podcast now.
He go crazy. He goes nuts.
No, I don't know anything Billy Joel. Black.
I didn't even know it was Billy Joel until I Shazam. But this is a white boy.
What that got to do with shit? I don't know that record. And I wasn't knocking.
You said you don't know any Billy Joel song. You know Uptown Girl.
You know Uptown Girl. Oh my God.
You know. Born to USA is Bruce Springsteen.
I wasn't not said you don't know any Billy Joe song any black song you know uptown girl you know uptown girl don't know any Billy you have to know come on uptown living in her uptown girl Reinsert the fire? Bruh, I don't know what this song That's a rap song, sorta I better run the better for her I'm gonna try and go to Uptown girl She's been living in her white bread You know that high voice nigga? That's Billy Joel too. You know he do all the parts? No, he does.
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he does all the background, the percussion.
He do everything. She never heard that song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That voice you're hearing in the hall And the greatest miracle of all it's how I lead you and how you lead me to you probably heard the drill version yeah for sure you told the Florida we made that shit yo King Von yo King Von we made this yo now Lil Durk got a version of this bro you gotta check it Dude, I Bobby made this.
Hey, I'll shoot him in a time. Now, Lil Durk got a version of this, bro.
You got to check it. All right.
Keep us in your prayers. Each and every last one of us.
Don't you forget not a fucking soul, please. Until next time.
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell.
Adios. Cerepidurci.
Hasta la vista. Au revoir.
So long. I have been feeling it for the longest time.
Freeze, you a bitch. Sing this shit with us, man.
Fuck you and this song. How the fuck you never heard Billy Joel? We had a ride on Freeze.
No, and got 77,000 songs. And a whole new memory thing.
We got a lot of songs. And took 21 Savage off of the Drake album, nigga.
Listen to Billy Joel. And took you off NBA.

That too.

And off of...

We didn't ask you that.

Nobody asked you all that.

You got taken off that one too.

It's an act you use, nigga.

Alright, man.

Y'all hold it down.

It's a long ass song.

Word.

Yeah, this is back when songs used to be like four minutes.

Yeah, a real song.

Oh, shit.

All right.

Freeze, you know the Temptations, right, Freeze?

Of course.

Ooh.

Yo.

Is anybody doing anything really, really, really fun this week?

You know this song?

Is anybody doing anything really fun and interesting this week that we can exploit in the future for entertainment purposes? Hey! Anybody, anybody out there what y'all doing, huh? Maybe. Hitting the car wash, hitting the gas station.
I'm going to the fight. Going to the fight.
I definitely gotta go to the car wash Green not a bird

That shit is they got a pollen got my shit looking green. I left much it for three days on retreat My shit off tomorrow and pick it up later on detailing like it needs all that man a new spare I already did that.
I already did that.

You're the new vehicle, nigga.

Yo, you went and bought a new tire,

or you went to Papa, you know?

No, I went and Get a new spare. I already did that.
I already did that. Get a new vehicle, nigga.
Yo, you went and bought a new tire or you went to Papa, you know? No, I went and bought a new tire. I don't play around kids.
From the dealer or from Elizabeth? Like, from the side shots. He's grown now, huh? Yo, bro.
He's grown now. We know niggas used to do.
From Shea Stadium, nigga. You went and bought a $40 chumpy.
Yup. $35 tire.
Again, congratulations to the Knicks. Go Knicks.
Really ashamed Jared Jack didn't get a chance to call us back for the first time since the series started. He didn't call us back, but he's with us in spirit, of course.
Yes, sir. Shout out to all the fans out there.
My nigga Jared watching film, yo. All the Patronis, all the athletes out there listening.
It's playoff time. Hey, wait a minute.

Glad we ain't talking about the Lakers.

Well, I mean, do you have anything that you want to say about the Lakers?

What do you think about J.J. Redick playing the starters in the entire second half?

I think the Lakers from 1 to 12.

It's a bad team. It's not really a good.
He has a choice because that's a part of coaching. I mean, they would have lost if he didn't do it.
You got to maximize your players. I think that's something that great coaches do.
They'll take a nigga that you never heard of, and in the playoffs, them niggas will get come to life. Listen, J.J.
Redick, for me, is also in the Coach of the Year discussions.

Yes.

It's also his first rodeo, so I'm not going to kill him too much.

I think he did a great job getting y'all to 3C.

Maybe y'all overachieved.

I thought y'all had a good shot to make the Western Conference Finals.

But the fuck do I know?

So with everything that's left, what do you have? Who do you have coming out of the East?

You have Conference Fin finals, both sides. Cleveland just smacked Miami by 60 last night.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I looked at that shit.
The Thunder smacked them other niggas by 55 the other night. So they look like the real deal.
It's still go Knicks for me. Boston is injured, so I'll wait to see how that goes.
But we get an injured Celtics team next round. I love their head coach.
I love Jason Tatum. I love the black players.
I love that they paid black players. So, shout out to them, man.
We'll see. We'll see what happens.
I still got Golden State in the Western Finals, man, with OKC. Who you got winning? That's my dark horse.
It's hard to bet against. I mean, OKC's a much better team.
Just deep, bro. They deep.
Yeah. They got 10, 11 jokers that they could just throw in and interchange them, and they all play D, and they all could shoot the three.
My heart wants Golden State. If Golden State's healthy, I think they'd give them a run, but I don't think they're going to stay healthy.
And shout out to Evan Mobley, our Defensive Player of the Year, man. Let me hit a round of applause.
Let me hit the round of applause for him. Well-deserved, well.
Well deserved. Good defensive stop by Draymond the other night.
Shout out to him. I think he was in the finalist for defensive player of the year.
What? Nothing. You good? What you got going on this week? Anything? Nah.
Well, maybe. Just working, being outside, getting to it.
I ain't the broadcast, man. Don't worry about it.
Yo! Just get to the conference. Yo, hold it down.
Keep each one of us in your... Positivity highlighter.
each one of us positivity highlighter huh positivity highlighter that's right thank you that's my middle name that's my middle name keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next time y'all hold it down have a good week enjoy this good weather be kind be kind try that for a change yeah let that means she go for a little bit yeah yeah

it ain't about none it's overrated man be kind be loving be warm healing health

happiness and hoes No Joe Bud!

Enough of daddy!

You've never heard of Joe Bud!

JVP, JVP, why are we to be without the JVP?

Bye!