Episode 820 | "Don’t Invite Them In"

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Hey! Yes, sir! Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yes, sir, Ski! Welcome back, Freeze.
Good morning. Feels good to be back, man.
Good morning or good evening, depending on when you're listening to this broadcast. So happy to be here.
Big Freeze in the building. I'm back, man.
Yo, I got to say, man. Yo, I watched clips.
Y'all was having way too much fun. Oh, you didn't watch the episode? You didn't fucking with us that much? No, I was hating.
Oh, okay. Those niggas having fun.
I wanted to see y'all depressed. Like, damn, son.
I wanted to see the ball dropped a couple times. Right.
I'm looking at Park sitting here. I was like, all right, all right.
I got to get the fuck back to work. Niggas was having a blast while you was gone.
Yeah, I ain't like that. That's some bullshit.
I told him about it, too. I did tell him about it.
I was crying inside because I missed you. Well, I'm glad to be back.
I missed y'all, for real. We missed you.
Your presence was definitely missed. For sure.
Everyone who wasn't here's presence was missed. That's true.
That's true. Such as today.
Melon, is she here with us in spirit? Indeed. Shasta them.
Shasta them. Both of them.
We love y'all. Indeed.
Prayers to them both. Prayers to Corey as well, who's not here with us we love you our brother in Christ

or universe

Corey don't believe in all that

so yeah now

what we were saying before we cut the mic on

and now the mic is on

this is why you can't just

rush out there and defend

black people

and I told y'all this

Thank you. You can't just rush out there and defend black people.
And I told y'all this when y'all was running around yelling free him and free him and free him to people that I didn't necessarily think should be free. Or maybe, maybe, maybe.
I mean, it should have been under review. Yeah, maybe.
Let's just hear everything out. Yeah, we needed to hit both sides.
Hey, a few of them niggas that y'all was putting on, eh, I won't go there. Yeah.
But our good brother, Mark, revealed quite the revelation. Yeah, sure did.
It's not that revelatory. Because the burden says you.
Right. Well, let them know what you did.
No, what happened was when Shannon Sharp, when the first information came out and I saw that it was the accusation was coming from somebody who was represented by, what's his name? Busby. By Busby.
And I saw all the other bullshit that happened with Busby. I assumed this was just another celebrity shake.
I tend to believe people when they say something happened to them, except for when Busby's involved. Got it.
Fair. So I hit Shannon up like, you know, just checking on you.
You know, let me know how I can support you. Did he respond? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
And as each day. Nigga, you still in...
Hey, Shannon! You still on the phone? You back there responding? Wait. Are you crazy? But this was still...
Shannon Sharp. No.
This was Monday. A phone should be kryptonite to you.
Hey, Shannon Sharp, you shouldn't be looking at a phone, saying phone, saying nothing that rhyme with phone. Nevertheless, hitting people back in the deep.
Oh, my Lord. So, you know, as each day went by, I was like, I really wish I hadn't sent that.
Really wish I hadn't sent that. Yeah.
And we're going to talk about it, but the more info that came out, I'm like, I am never supporting a black person again on this shit. No, person.
Not black person. A person again.
I just only tend to send this shit to black people. You got to support black people.
You just can't rush. You got to wait a minute.
Yeah. You got to give it a second.
Got to stay quiet for a little bit. Let us sit.
See where it goes. Because we know us.
We ain't going to tell you the whole story up front. We know our shit.
We don't do that. Because when I went home and got to thinking, listen, the first hour of this shit, we kicking Shannon's back in.

Well,

that's my position anyway.

Let me not speak for my cast.

No other way to do it.

But when I went home after the last part

and was alone

when my baby was there,

I love you, baby.

But that's the same shit.

And just got to thinking

a little bit,

like jogging my memory.

I said,

holy pig feet

and pork troughs, Batman.

How the fuck did I not piece this shit together from ages ago? Because you see certain shit as a media head and be like, hmm. Mental note.
Just keep it pushing. Mind your business.
That's the other thing black people do well. We mind our business.
But we see something now. We look out the little screen door.
Look out the window. But Shannon had a run where it was a lot of female guests and I guess the gay rumors were going around.
Yeah. And there was a chatter about the way he would take pictures with women.
Mm. That was at least

a six, seven month stretch.

And then nobody said nothing.

Because we just assumed that,

you know,

beard.

Go ahead, nigga.

Take a little free picture.

Do your thing, we know.

Go ahead, baby.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, boy.

And then you listen to him a few times

on with Chad.

Shout out to Chad,

friend of the show.

Nightcap, yeah.

And you just hear how he would

I'm going to go ahead and get ahead, boy. And then you listen to him a few times on with Chad.
Shout out to Chad, friend of the show. Nightcap, yeah.
And you just hear how he would speak when it came to certain, and it's like, oh, you one of them old Alabama football freaky boys. And now you can get shit off.
You one of them niggas that used to be behind the barn, nigga. Yeah.

Unleashing aggression.

Then I remember he was a football player.

Oh, shit.

I'm sitting here thinking he's a fucking media guy. No, he a

football player. Turn in one.

Yes.

Wow.

This guy.

He ain't shit, man.

That was solid I wanna halfway

support him though

but I do think

he on bullshit

I think

this is one of times

where I think

everything is true

I think

everything that's being said

about him

well let me ask you that

I think a lot of the shit

she's saying is probably true

and I think everything

he's saying is true too

and I think it's a big mess

and they deserve each other

that's my gut reaction to this

they deserve each other

Thank you. true and i think everything he's saying is true too i i and i think it's a big mess and they deserve each other that's like that's my gut reaction to this they deserve each other that's anti-black it might be i'm just i'm to say they deserve each other's anti-black but i mean i get i get uh everything in your life you will to be there so i understand what you're saying yeah like why are you playing with this little, that's the other thing we got to talk about.
All right, I'm going to start this part. Yeah.
How's everybody doing? Great, man. Great.
I know it's some of y'all niggas out there that like younger girls, but it still can't be a mid-pack. Like, there's a lot wrong here.
Yeah, but. She's too young.
Let's get into it. And nigga, her...
I got a whole cereal back. I think I'm with you.
Yeah, yeah, we on the same. Yeah, let's get it poppin'.
Man, he was in that room throwing that little white bitch against everyone. What? Yo, they was having that masochist wild BDSM

nigga, get over here

little

Come back to fucking

Master Daddy

What?

Am I going to our house now?

No, no, no

Just after the intro

Let's hear some Saturday morning tunes You know what I mean? There we go. After that.
There we go. Smooth.
Oh, yeah. Hey, you know what I mean? Mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two.
It go. You know what I mean? So blessed and happy to be here with y'all.
Indeed. God put breath in our lungs this morning.
All praise due to him. You know what I mean? Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.
All the first and last time listeners. Shout out to the hate listeners.
I love y'all. I love y'all.
Shout out to the subgroups out there. The Petroni's always for the ladies.
Always for the ladies. Hey.
All night, heavy sleep. Come on now.
Too hurt, too. We got a cold.
Shout out to my niggas out there in the car right now. Dirty cars, too.
Hey. Good time for a car wash.
Great time for a car wash. Get that power off your hood My shit look yellow My shit looks yellow My shit looks yellow My shit looks bad My shit green nigga My girl went to drive And sent me a picture Of how the birds Had a party on my shit That's how That's how ill the birds Was jamming on my shit That's sick I'd be sick of $300,000, $400,000 automobile with bird shit all over it.
Oh, man. Go ahead and get it clean, Big Mama.
Bring it back to Daddy. Hey.
Hey. Hey, air freshener, too.
Come on, now. Come on, man.
They put the air fresheners in there. Shout out to all the lovers out there.
Here you go. She said sugar on, honey, darling, I didn't see you too.
It's just that someone's over and baby, I really want to be with you. It's the weekend.
Shout out to niggas outside Emotions You let me drop it Hey Yeah man, some niggas woke up, got to doing the dishes this morning. Fire up that Roomba.

That Roomba.

That Roomba is watching y'all niggas out there.

You better be careful.

Some niggas woke up, got to picking up the clothes on the floor from a wild Friday night.

Went in the bathroom, started getting the pints all out.

I mean.

Look at all the beer bottles and whiskey bottles on the counter with regret.

Yeah, clear it up. Your girl still in the bed snoring, not doing shit Shout out to you, Ego Hey, all the parents out there And the kids And the kids, this is a children's show This is a children's show Shout out to all the executives out there listening All all the politicians, all the musicians, all the teachers, all the postal workers.

Here you go.

40 and up right now.

40 and up right now.

Set sail with me.

Misty lady.

Set my spirit free.yyy You let me too high If you woke up and you got that alcoholic beverage next to your bed today You're doing too much You're doing too much And they're gonna finish it Yeah That's just the worst when you wake up You're like a lot of brings to bed right?

I still drink it though

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Thank you. I guess you wonder where I've been I should just find where I've been Don't waste all your energy with Shaggy, nigga Save some for me, cat daddy Don't waste all your energy with Elephant Man, big dog I need some of that Hey!, fine.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Elephant Man, too.
That's a joke. Elephant Man.
It goes off crazy. Shout out to Elephant Man.
I wonder what my pet name would be in a gay relationship. Yo.
Ah, come on, man. I'm lying.
Never mind. Here you go.
Siberian Musk. Siberian Musk Siberian Musk

Musk ain't gotta be hard

Tuscan Tiger

What's wrong?

Do for love

You know what I mean?

Alright we got a great show lined up for y'all today

But you don't give up

In my world Only you Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh today. But you don't give up.
In my world, only you. Hey.
I need to follow what I would not do. Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. Ski.
Who's your back? so happy to be here with y'all today man really feeling good let me

get these drops out the way What's that? Ah! Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake you.
You were done. Oh, my Lord.
I'm so happy to be here with y'all today. Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip.
What episode is this? Uh, 820. 820.
Welcome to episode 820 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

Yeah.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be your host, Joe Budden, here with some

really amazing people.

To my right, big queens, flip queens, get the money, is in the building.

Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, in the building.

Also, dark Lamont Hill when he's here.

The fans have appropriately called this thing Mark's burner account, and I agree. That love it.
That's really good. I agree.
That's what it is. That's it.
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All right, how's everybody doing?

What's popping?

Doing good, man.

Chilling in there, man.

Good.

Good times.

Now, I...

I got to shout out my baby.

It's her birthday.

Happy birthday.

Oh, chance.

Come on, y'all. Come on, Big Rim.
Real good, real quick. Big Ram.
Sorry, didn't rush. Happy birthday, Ram.
It's a little clear in here, man, but we're going to pick it up today like y'all picked it up. You know what I mean? Me and Freeze is back in the building.
Exactly. Don't do none of that little fake shit you're doing, try to do like dog whistling and all that shit to you and Mark Lamar here.
None of that shit, nigga. We stopping at today, nigga.
Today is fun. I'm back in the building, nigga.
Act appropriate. You removed me from the side seat.
You're the bearer of responsible acting? Yes, I am. Holy shit.
Act appropriate, nigga. We in the fucking building today.
And I'm happy to be here. Good.
We happy to have you. Make sure.
Smile, nigga. Happy to to have you here, man.
I was happy to see. I know Ish, I think it's out of town for something.
I saw Mel last night doing a thing. Did y'all catch on Shade Room? She was killing it.
I did see it. I did see it.
It was really good. Yeah, she was getting real on love and talking about a younger love as their double standard for men and women when it comes to dating younger.
And she represented. She had the glasses on.
She was sharp. It was dope.
Shout out to Mel. She held it down.
She really held it down. So shout out to her.
Yeah. Shout out to Mel.
She was doing a Shade Room Live. Shade Room Live.
Yeah. Yeah.
The on-camera joint. Yeah.
It was fresh. It was real fun.
It's on YouTube if you didn't catch it. Okay.
Shout out to Mel. Shout out to Mel.
She's trying. Yeah, man.
Hey. Get ahead, girl.
I did the same shit. Get the work up.
You'll never know. You nigga know.
Hey, man, I do the same thing. Nigga trying to play around, nigga.
I'm out there working. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Don't let that nigga stop you. We don't give a fuck.
Spaces, spaces, spaces, spaces, spaces, spaces. Show up you're working, nigga.
This is a shade room. Nigga I just got a throw it near the room.
That's it. Yeah.
You set me up for it, too. That's what I said right there.
Yeah, we're looking at this shit, too. I forgot wherever I was trying to start.
Oh, shit. Okay.
I did go see Sinners. Yes.
Me, too. Oh, my God.
Me, too. Y'all doing that now? However.
Oh, okay. No, Freeze is here yet.
However, no. I'm just trying to get a small portion of the audience to hate you for the weekend.
Got it, got it, got it. However, I'm unable to give my very detailed review because Freeze has not seen it yet and he's going tonight.
Yes. I've been ready since Monday.

I went out last night at like midnight to see this shit.

Me too.

I did it on Monday.

To talk about this shit.

I thought we were going to do that on Tuesday.

Yeah, it was really important for work purposes.

I'm not surprised anybody.

But Freeze is going.

But Freeze is going to see it tonight.

For work purposes, such a blockbuster.

Yeah.

Ryan Coogler, friend of the show.

Highest grossing original film.

Oh, come on.

It's Caddyshack or something.

I don't know.

Caddyshack.

Hey, that was racist.

Austin Powell.

That was racist.

Wait, that was...

I just don't think it was.

That was racist as hell.

Right.

I'm just trying to think

of an old movie.

Yeah, but as soon as

Freeze sees it,

we'll be here with our review.

Because I got thoughts.

Do you?

Yeah.

Or we'll send Freeze ass to Starbucks in an hour and a half and just get a little bit in.

That's not like a plan.

Because I got to know what you think about some things on there.

And I got to, yeah.

And you too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I want to know what y'all think.

Great film too.

Everyone's seen it.

I loved it.

Well, the whole fuck, listen. All right, look.
If you're here, let to know what y'all think. Great film too.
Everyone's seen it. I loved it.
Well, the whole fuck,

listen.

All right,

look,

if you're here,

let me know

so I can go to

Starbucks.

Hold on,

freeze.

Hold on,

freeze.

I'll take a cappuccino.

I do want to say

a little.

All right,

well,

hold on,

let me go.

Let me go to

Starbucks.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Step just for a

little something.

Yeah.

The closed Starbucks.

They both,

not the one that's,

they both leaving.

Start.

Hold on.

Yeah,

you know.

Hey,

don't go outside and do no, go outside and do no scene. We know those little breaks.
We know... Oh, shit, y'all walked out of Joe's birthday party.
Yo, y'all did that at my birthday party? There was wild behavior at my birthday party that we could just never address. I'm so mad I didn't go to that party.
Mark Lamont Hill. I was at home like mad as shit.
Damn. Classic.
Oh, that was before you were like really, really up here. Yeah, yeah.
I had got the invite. You still got the invite.
I got the invite, but wifey, you know. We just, anyway, yeah.
It wasn't going to play well. At that point, you don't know that that's an event that you probably should just.
A lot of shit went on. A lot of shit went on.
That we just swept under the rug and I don't even have a broom.

Family business. It is what it is.
Yeah.

Shit that we saw in plain sight. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Obviously.
I didn't know

Freeze was doing that at my birthday party.

Alright, Freeze.

Listen, my main

takeaway from Sinners is

don't date white bitches.

Yo.

The whole movie is telling you

in mad different ways not to date the white chicks. Not trust white people in general, I think.
At all. My wife literally turned to me about three and a quarter of a minute.
She was like, Dr. Umar tried to tell us.
If someone comes to your door with a banjo, no. Don't let them in.
Absolutely not. Get that banjo shit the fuck out of here.
Yeah. That.
Yeah, that's the best takeaway for me. I loved it.
I loved it. Yeah, I loved it.
And don't succumb to greed, neither. Money is not everything.
When she went out there to get, because if she didn't go out there to go check on the white people and get money from them to see how much they had, I mean, nothing would have happened. That's a good point.
I didn't think about that. So don't, don't,

you know,

don't fall in the greed.

One of the twins,

I don't remember which one,

was kind of cool with the fact that

it wasn't really making no bread.

We're going to build this up.

Yeah.

Smoke.

And yeah,

they sent the white girl out

to bring in some more.

Actually,

Stack was the one

that was cool with it

because he was the one like,

yeah,

fuck it,

take the wooden nickels.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Yeah.

What else?

What else?

What else?

I loved,

I loved how this was, I think this might have been Ron Coogler's best film in my opinion. I think Fruitville's still better, but.
They're still different. Yeah.
Yeah. They're very different.
This was like a, this is one of my masterpiece things. For sure.
That one is a lot more like. Story.
Yeah. Fruitville was a real event.
Yeah. And Ryan Coogler wasn't nobody.
Sure. Right.
So, wow, tugged on our strings, we all cried, but no budget, real story, we see what he did. Black Panther is still Black Panther.
There are other reasons that we go into the theater outside of, hey, Ryan Coogler's involved in this. Granted, he did a great job, but we come into the theater in droves for other reasons as well.
The same thing could be said with Creed. You're leaning on 40 years of equity with Rocky fans, Apollo.
Fair. You might have did an amazing job too.
Yeah. This movie was my first time because I don't want to be ignorant to the movie buffs out there that may know differently.
It was my first time seeing Ryan Coogler as Ryan Coogler trusted with this large of a budget, relying on his star player that he done called on three and four times to now come and be two niggas. Because this is so important.
I can't lose the viewership of you not being involved in even the bad side of this when we cut to that. Like, this was just, it was a lot going on.
I loved all the historical shit. I loved them saying, still even in this, don't play with them natives.
I loved that. I loved the...
Yeah, they should have listened. Don't play with them natives.
Natives came. This ain't that.
This ain't that. It's in there.
We here for business they ain't playing with him. Nope.
They ain't doing none of that evil eye, none of that shit with them. And them Choctaw got the fuck up out of there.
They ain't getting no more problems. Exactly.
That's what I loved about it. Exactly.
I loved that. Until the Korean lady did the cornball shit, I loved how they held us down.
Oh, yeah. Because then I later read that historically the role that they played in the

Asian shit. That was amazing.

And then, I'm a

musician. So all of that

musical shit was

fine. First of all, I think the way.
Not all of it.

I grew up in a blues household, so this was

a trope that I'm familiar with

and I just love putting blues in the forefront

in 2025, in that

matter. Yeah, I totally agree.
Why you say not all of it? That one mashup scene, I couldn't... Irish? No, no, the Swaggerless Trap Drum.
They lost me for 35 seconds. Yeah, they lost me too.
That was the one. That was fire.
It could have been the one. They should have called Metro or somebody.
Yeah. You know what I mean? I like the idea of it.
I didn't like how they executed the sonic. A little...
Now they buy you that shit, y'all. Yeah, y'all crazy as hell.
The message behind that... That scene is the one where I'm sitting there almost teary-eyed a little bit.
That's gonna fuck me up. Because it didn't sound right at first.
Not at all. And then when you...
It took you a second to see what was happening. It's the thing it is.
Sonic it. And be like, oh, and yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
The blues, the blues dude, I didn't expect his voice to be like that once he started singing in the car. Or, oh, he said it.
And neither did the twin. It's like, oh, shit.
We like, hey, come with me, homeboy. Right.
You can sing like that. What's my man that plays the harmonica? What's his name, the actor? Oh, Delroy Lindo.
Yeah. Yes.
He would be a dead ringer for Howlin' Wolf if they ever do a movie I don't know if you guys are blues heads Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh, that's Speaking of blues Buddy Guy at the Inn The real Buddy Guy at the Inn Oh, come on, man And most people had left the theater when we saw it Because it was like a post-script So people had walked in My whole theater stayed And Newt stayed I went to a black theater Niggas was gone I went to a white theater But there was black people in there Oh okay. Like, there was nothing but black people in there.
You had a culture. Was it a black theater and Maxie Johnson, nigga? I won't say which one, but I'm just saying, I stay for the end credits.
Got it. And a lot of people don't read the credits, you know what I mean, in general.
But afterward, when they popped up, the genius of that scene, I also thought, like, was they hit home something that was subtle throughout the whole movie about the exploitative nature of white culture and white culture theft when a dude come in with the coogee and the white girl, you know, when they come in in that scene to meet the new version of Preacher Boy it's like, oh, this is more vulture. But now you are alive with this white girl, but you can only come out when it's dark like you're kind of stuck in this really nasty, ugly life, even though you're alive.
Versus the big black woman, the beautiful, thick black woman that I love. I love her.
I loved it. That was her role and portrayal.
I was real sad when she got bit. Spoiler alert! Yeah, sorry.
But I love that love story and though they died it was like uh uh it was like a we're alive in spirit through multi-generations so it was just telling a lot of different stories it was yeah i i loved all that i thought to your point the blues piece was beautiful there's this this moment where Debra Lindo talks about the blues. He said, the blues is sacred.
And he talked about what the blues meant. He said, not that shit they gave us religion-wise, but the blues is ours.
It's like getting to our souls. And the blues was like a real weapon to fight these vampires by the end.
And he's a survivor, so it's a way of talking about black traditions that I thought was dope. That's what I took from it, too.
Tell Like, you know, telling Sammy to hold on to the blues because that's how I was, you know, Christianity and all the stuff that we learned was given to us by the white man and it was forced on us. You know what I mean? We have this.
Let's cherish this. Don't let that go.
That was an important part for me as well. And when they were driving down the road, when he drives, because they're talking about the convict lease system, you know, when black folk were basically put back on plantations after slavery and they're driving down the road where Lindo gets up sees all the dudes tells that crazy story about everything that happened with those guys and how he was part of that and then the way he processed it was to start singing and then to have my man play the guitar so the blues became a way of healing it's just like they got into that And I was in love with that system, man.
I love that. The system was doing hoodoo.
Oh, yeah. Because it was the first movie I've seen in a long time on the mainstream that didn't make black spiritual traditions look cultish or look creepy.
The creepy people were the weird white people, the Klan, right? But she had a leke beads. She was doing hoodoo.
She was doing jobs. Any of my spiritual people didn't know.

Sorry, not to cut you off.

But who, if you're watching this movie, should also be identified.

Yes.

I'll leave that up to you to identify them how you want.

But I had a picture of who that was representing throughout the movie.

The demon white people.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you were saying.
No, no, I just said. They just told a whole story about black spiritual traditions.
And the mix between music and spirit. That I thought was powerful.
From the church to the hoodoo to the blues. I just thought it was beautiful.
And without having to hit us over the head with it. Yeah, a very subtle way of telling you exactly how you lost culture.
Yes. Yeah.
It was such an ill, sleek way of holding the mirror up to you because it can't happen without your invite. Yeah.
And that part just being so... And my beautiful black...
What is her name again? Because I don't want to keep saying that. But when she was like, hold up now, homeboy.
You about 6'7", 6'8". Right.
What you need an invite for? Right. You can push right past her.
Behind every black man is a strong black woman that's going to see something that maybe you don't. For sure.
Wumi Mosaku? Yeah. Yep.
That's it.

I absolutely love her.

Even the Irish

mashup. I like that.
I like, you know,

when he was... Oh, now you got to get in my bag.

I love that.

There's so many gems in that.

How, you know,

music is taken and

is sort of like redefined.

Right? It's redefined and sometimes misappropriated, but we all fall in line, if you understand what I'm saying, while the white man is in the middle, and we all fall in line a lot of the times when they come into our culture and take control of it. That's what I took from that, man, but it was fine.
Now, listen, I ain't going to lie to y'all. I love this point that you brought up.
I love this movie.

I love the premise.

I love all this historical

black shit that we're

talking about.

I love the blackness,

the blackity blackness

of it.

And,

yeah,

I also liked

white thriller

in the woods.

Fire, son.

But I think that was

part of the messaging

about culture

and all that shit.

It's like,

ooh, that shit kind of

slaps a little bit.

It's not really what we do here,

but maybe y'all could come in because it's not bad and y'all got somebody. Yeah, that shit kind of slaps a little bit.
It's not really what we do here, but maybe y'all could come in

because it's not bad

and y'all got somebody.

Yeah, because they was

watching from the house.

Right.

Like, oh, shit,

look at the white niggas.

I was in the theater like,

yo,

yeah, white niggas.

White niggas is jamming.

They don't dance with no rhythm.

I was like, yeah. As a person of Irish descent, I didn't like our music being portrayed as the evil music like that, but it's cool, man.
Nah, y'all was in the woods smoking that shit. They were getting busy.
That was a fire scene. Yo, it was all good.
Yeah, yeah, it was. I had a couple of nitpicks.
I had a couple of nitpicks with the film. I'm the dickhead in the movie with Nick taking notes.
Oh, my God. I'm always going to be me.
I was too high for that. Oh, my God.
You know, anyway. Some of the accents were bad.
I didn't love the accents. And I didn't.
I thought they should have done a little bit. And this is my nerdy thing with movies.
Sure. I hate when the slang don't match the era.
Oh, okay. Like when he's like, let's get it popping.
Oh, I didn't hear that. Or let me holler at you.
Or even Patty Wagon in the South. You know, little things like that.
Real quick, irked the shit out of me. That did the same thing when I was listening to the autobiography of Malcolm.
Because a lot of words that we said now in that, I don't know when that was written, but they seemed like back in the days it was being said. Good thing we have a Malcolm scholar.
That's true. Yeah, no, no, I'm just saying.
He put me on to it. I listen.
I'm like, wait, they said that back in the days? They were saying this back in the days? But they was. Because he wrote the book right before he died.
That's what I'm saying. So it's so crazy how we adapt the slangs today.
Yeah. Right? There's certain slangs about Harlem and shit and I'm like, I was listening to it like, they didn't say that back in the day.
I swear to God, but I realized when the book was written and I said, oh, they were saying that back in the day. So, I mean, you may know, but it could be a possibility.
You know, ever since I listened to that action. Some of it.
Some of it. You're right.
You're right. Some of it could be like a circular thing.
Let me holler at you might have been saying that. But the thing that got me, the thing that irked me the most was only, like Michael B.
Jordan looks like, I mean, that last scene where he's shooting up the place with the wife beater on. And look, he came from Vietnam, not World War I.
Like nobody in 1930. The nigga, come on, he's like Rambo.
You know what that scene is for. I want my star player in a tank top sweating with a gun with muscles killing the bad guy.
We don't care about that. And I'm a hater.
That was hate. That's totally hate.
This is the scene that's selling our movie. I get it.
I'm in the mood. Everybody with women cheering.
I'm like, Jim Crow didn't have triceps like that. Oh my God.
I was talking. It's complete hate.
Let me be very clear. I love Michael B.
Jordan. That's my brother.
Love you, bro. But yeah, too many muscles.
Michael B. Jordan.
Amazing job, man. Yes, you bodied it.
Really, really, really great job in both roles. I have nothing to say.
I have absolutely zero to say. They tried to pigeonhole him as far as his acting.
You know, how far does he... But he did great here.
They is me. Yeah, you say he didn't speak or some shit.
They is me. I thought about that.
They is me. Yeah is me yeah you don't need to they me I'm right here he over excelled like he did great he this is his I loved him in the movie about Byron Stevenson too what's it called where he played the lawyer getting somebody out of prison she's not here my name oh sorry it was like a couple years ago but this was in terms of the stretch and the reach and playing two people and all the shit he had to do and the action and all the stuff.
This is my favorite performance of his. This in Fruitvale.
I would like to know how they did some of that. Like, technically.
Yeah, like his father twins, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fly.
Does anyone think that one of the twins was supposed to be Jonathan Majors? That's something that's been floating around out there. Oh.
I read something about him saying that it was important for them to be fraternal and not maternal twins, meaning they look like identical twins instead of non-identical twins. There's something in there.
I was just about to tell you I forgot the meaning of fraternal, paternal. I might be messing that up.
There was something important about them being identified. Yeah, which ones match? Yeah.
I thought it was the opposite, but I don't know. I don't know for sure.
But yeah, them looking the same made it kind of dope. Yeah.
It made it kind of dope. Yeah.
And, you know, once you see the, once you visualize all of the Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Coogler collabs and see them side by side, it just looks like the development of Michael B.
Jordan. Yeah.
So it almost looks, it's almost unfair. Not unfair because I was kicking his back in and I never do that about niggas in Jersey.
But it was just funny. It was just funny.
Only because in Creed,

I still think he had maybe eight lines total.

And in Black Panther,

the one where he came in there

on some games,

I think it may have been 16 lines.

Hey, auntie.

Yeah, that was two of them.

But he ain't there for that

and he's still A-list.

So now,

there was nothing to be said

about how many lines,

the script.

It was him.

He was there.

He was talking.

And performed.

Yeah, he performed. He killed.
Yeah. He absolutely killed.
Shout out to Michael B. Jordan.
Again, Ryan Coogler, Chef's Kiss. Yeah.
I tip my hat. Amazing, amazing.
Technically, the visual and audio side of it was stunning, beautiful. Yes, yes.
I saw it on the IMAX. Absolutely beautiful.
The score was great, too. German guy did a lot of the scoring.
Yeah. Donald Glover's collaborator.
I can't remember his name. Ludwig something.
Yeah, but a long German name. But they killed it.
Great song choices. And then again, Buddy Guy.
Hearing Buddy Guy 88 hit them notes. Yeah, no.
Buddy Guy's still him. I think that he still has the club in Chicago that still performs regularly.
And I would encourage anybody out in Chicago or if you travel to Chicago, if you haven't done it, go to his club or any of the number of blues clubs that at least when I lived there still existed. It's important and you should go.
It's probably the best blues scene I think outside of like maybe Tennessee. Yeah, it is.
To me, I mean, I've been all over. Like I said, I grew up with the blues.
It's the best blues seen to me in America. Which means

probably the world.

So when y'all see

a thriller like this,

how many times

did you jump out

of your seat?

Did you drop your popcorn

and you get shook

a little?

Tell the truth.

I'm so glad

that you said that.

My girl jumped

any time

one of the demons

flew in the air.

Yeah, my wife too.

By the third time.

Everybody's wife did.

The first time

she did a jump,

she kind of brought me with her. So now I feel like a bitch.
The second time, she might have dropped my popcorn out of my hand. By the third time, I'm like, yo, dog, they fly.
This shouldn't be a big fucking surprise every time they fucking levitate. My wife grabbed my hand.
I let the first one slide. I got a little scared too.
I ain't gonna lie. I be covering my ears like that.
When something's about to happen, I will watch it but cover my ears because the fucking sound was loud. You are a bitch.
I leave it to my wife. I only wanted to do that.
We both can't be shook. Get off me, man.
When they be prepared for shit, I go I go like that I cover my ear I don't wanna hear the sound Nigga I wanna see it When that jump scared me I don't like that shit That jump got me twice They do this great thing Where right when the person About to attack They jump and they Do a jump cut to the Back to the To the club Which I thought was really beautiful But that shit had me. I dropped my popcorn one time.
And I'm doing, pardon me, re-adaptation of the iconic black picture that's in all of our houses of the dance scene. The disco scene.
Yeah. That was great.
And killing dude with the guitar and what that might mean. Yep.
It's just a lot to pick up on. I'm sure I'll watch this movie again, and we're going to stop our coverage of that now because I'm sure Ice Ben stopped fucking.
Ice Ben done fuck. He does advertise the seven-minute man.
It is Ben Boyd. Yeah, Ice Ben done.
We can get him. We can get him.
I'm super into slaying KKK vampires, by the way. That shit was fire.
Yeah. That shit was fire.
Yeah. I could not see white people ever again after that.'s how I felt that night I was like I only seen no white people For like five minutes Same I had to go look in the mirror Right Scared the shit out of myself Good talk Good talk Freeze I ain't gonna lie We smoked that I'm glad you did I'm glad you did We smoked that I'm still going to see it And I still want your review Absolutely Absolutely Absolutely.
When we come back. For sure.
I love y'all Starbucks shit too. My bad.
Lama's long. Lama's long.
I was looking forward to that cappuccino. I got you next time.
All right, Mark. Back to you DMing this guilty black man.
Being so in a rush to fucking be of our people. We are.
I mean, you know. The other thing is, you know, in the media, you know, we tend to have a network of people who support each other.
So, you know, I tend to reach out to folk in my line of work. Oh, I'm not in that network.
There's a group chat and a signal. You should jump on it.
You'd be welcome. Half of that group chat is probably beefing with me.
Oh, yeah. For sure.
For sure. They're having beefing with me, too.
And I probably have no idea why they're beefing with me.

Because you probably kicked their back in.

I was just going to say, then they remind you.

Yo, you know you said this, right?

Oh.

Yeah, I deserve it. The only person I know why we don't talk is Charlamagne.

Why don't y'all talk?

And y'all ain't even got beef.

Because I let him have it.

I wasn't playing with him.

A couple times.

And vice versa.

I wasn't playing with him.

Yeah, yeah.

And he's let me have it.

He's played. He's played in a way that I felt like he needed a pow-pow many, many, many, many, many years ago.
I think we both have a high level of respect for each other, so. I feel like y'all did shit after the barbs back and forth a couple different times.
No, not after that Spotify negotiation one. That's the one that way you go off.
No. You went crazy.
That's the one where I just hung up with him 10 minutes before I went on air. And I didn't like what I heard.
Bad time. I need y'all to work that out.
I mean, there's no beef, but I need y'all to be cool. Yeah, but the two of y'all shouldn't be on opposite.
The two of y'all on the same page is good for the entire culture. It's good for everybody.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Am I holding back the culture?

No.

I ain't going to say that.

Not because it is.

You're not holding it back, but, you know.

Any of you other niggas that got a beef with me, I promise you I have no idea why.

I have no idea why.

Well, I know why Van was mad, too.

He called me and told me.

Are y'all good now?

What's good? He don't care about making it good. That's true.
That's the thing. All right, cool.
You got a beef? Stay there. Because I don't know what's bad.
Like, I have no problem with Van. I didn't have a problem with Van when he called and told me what his problem was with me.
Got you. I'm not even aware.
I'm always next game. I'm always, what are we on next? Hey, can we get through that? Is somebody sorry? Did somebody do something wrong? Do you apologize? Everybody.
Sometimes. I think I apologize to Van, maybe.
Don't quote me. My memory's bad.
Shout out to Van. Because sometimes that's all it takes, is just accepting.
Yeah, you know what? Shout out to Van. We spoke the other day for the first time when I played the clip of him talking about his father on the podcast that I was so touched by.

Okay, well, that's good.

And we spoke.

Okay, that's good.

That's good.

Anybody else, I have no idea why y'all are being funny.

I promise you I don't.

Y'all just don't like me because you heard a story or yada, yada, yada.

I don't know.

Or you shit on him on the podcast, but whatever.

I don't think that's enough to be so invested in your anger towards somebody. You know how many niggas have shitted on me on a podcast? Yeah, but that's you not realizing your reach.
You shitting on them and them shitting on you has two different results. Well, then they should stop.
No, I'm not talking about... You shitting on somebody on here has a total different effect than somebody shitting on you.
You're also a little bit more creative with your barbs. You're better at it.
You're better at it. You could fuck up somebody money shitting on up here.
I wouldn't want to do that. But you can and have done it.
You come from fucking battle rapping. It's a different level of creativity.
You will say some sneaky little shit that no one will catch but them and it will fucking hurt. Yo, if anybody out there still has a beef with me, if it's over five years old, let's piece it up.
Let's squash it. That's not how I'm living in my 40s.
That's not where I'm at at 45. And maybe because we haven't spoken or you only hear me on my fucking platform,

you don't know that about me.

It's not in my ministry today.

I don't have a beef with any of y'all.

I wish everybody well.

Give money.

I hope niggas' kids, parents, and families is good.

I hope niggas is living right,

eating healthy, trying to stay alive.

I done seen too many friends,

real, real friends that I came in this business with leave right before my eyes in recent years. Like people from my class.
Like the Clarks and the Irvs and the list goes on and on. I can't.
I'm not. It's precious.
It's precious. I like that, man.
It's precious. It's precious, man.
So, yeah, hit me. Or allow me to be in y'all little punk nigga group chat

that y'all got.

There you go.

Right back up.

We were almost there.

But I would say that in the group chat.

I don't say nothing.

I'm honored to be in y'all

little punk ass group chat.

Hey, this is where all you

bitch ass niggas been hiding at.

No, I'm joking.

I'm going to add you this week.

I'm joking.

Add them, man.

Hey, to get the word first, I don't want your gang to look at you shady. Who's the leader? I brought this nigga.
Who's the leader of the group chat? I'm not allowed to say. Listen, who manages this? You know, I'll tell you.
Just beep it. All right.
I'm. The leader of the group is.
Oh. I'm not mad at.
Yeah. Fine.
You got to beep that one too. Make sure.
Yep. Gotcha.
Yep. Okay.
I'm polarizing. **** yeah fine you gotta beep that one too make sure yep gotcha okay I'm polarizing

so you can't just bring me

I'm a different plus one

he's the one that

has to shake shit off

some plus ones

you should announce

before the function

that's your man coming

yo you know

I'm fly

I recently got fly

with such and such

Thank you. You think I would be on my best black behavior in the prominent black group chats? For like a month.
For like a month.

No, I would.

No, you wouldn't.

In real life, I'm not that bad.

I hear you.

I hear some bullshit in there.

Yep.

Let somebody say that.

Let somebody say some bullshit that you don't like.

Or, no, no, better.

I wouldn't reply.

Better.

Let them be having a bad day.

I wouldn't reply.

That's the one.

That's why I said give them a bump.

By the way, I've been.

That's the one.

Yo, my friends represent me wrong on this podcast.

Nigga.

Nigga.

Are you crazy freeze? Are you freeze? He's going to say, I've been letting a lot of shit slide, but today I got the time. That's not true.
That's the intro. I would not reply.
You motherfuckers. If I felt the way, I would try to turn off the shit.
The sassy shit in the group chat is to leave, which I'm so old I don't remember how to do it no more. You fucking can't damn, now.
They stopped it, right? That shit is annoying, bro. Yeah, when I'm feeling sad

seeing the group chat, Joe button left conversation.

You know how we used to do in the group chat.

Where you going? Bring him back.

You ain't leaving the group chat. Get your ass back

over here. Oh, man.
Alright, that was

great. Thank you, Mark.
No problem. So anyway, you

DMed... Shannon Shaw.

No, no, no, no.

So, and like I said,

it was a quick exchange, but since then, I've gotten a lot of information that I think we should focus on. Sure.
So, piece of information number one, he announced very recently as of this broadcast that he is taking some time away from ESPN. He announced that? Yeah.
He actually said, I'm going to step away. No, no.
That ain't what I was saying. Oh, I get what you're saying.
I'm just saying. Yeah, but he put it out there.
And Freeze was on it, too. Can you break down what happened? Because it was an unk moment.
It definitely was an unk moment. Somebody sent him a text message of what to say.
They typed it out. Yo, dog, copy this.
This is your statement. They even signed his name at the bottom.
Yeah. And I posted it.
Yeah, Yo, post this. That's what they told him.
Yo, post this. Yeah.
He screenshot it, cropped a little box, and posted it. Yeah.
He took, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Which made it look, to some people, including myself, even less authentic. Absolutely.
Because it looked like you may not have even read it. You didn't read it.
You know what I'm saying? Like PR teams just handed it. Screenshot and hit tweet.
But what the message effectively said was that he's stepping away from ESPN to deal with this unfair attack that he's receiving. But that he'll be back by the start of the NFL preseason.
Yeah, I read that. Which is interesting, right? No, I was going to say one more thing.
I spoke to two executives at ESPN the day before. Fucking journalist right here.
Right. And what they told me was that he wasn't returning to ESPN.
Like, they were already going to cut him. So I'm wondering if either they changed their mind, or, I got to put all the possibilities out there.
Sure. Or this is his team trying to preempt that.
Like, I'm going to take a break before you officially fire me. Because now they can't say he's fired and hoping it just dies and goes away.
The second that he said he would be back at the start of NFL preseason, I took my hands out. Started just doing some counting.
Sure. August.
Oh, shit. August is right there.
So let me be the third person to tell you, Dr. Mark Lamont.
Shannon Sharp will not be back at the start of NFL preseason. Or season.
Or playoff season. Or postseason.
Shannon Sharp will never see the ESPN Airwaves again. And we wish that on no one.
But he won't be back in August. Wait, tell me.
If he were to be acquitted, exonerated, whatever the word is. It can't work.
Not by August. It's too bad now.
Well, yes, but I'm saying certainly not by August. Gotcha.
Dog, every 10 minutes, something else is coming out. There's a new accuser now.
Yeah, I've read that. Like, now we're at the point where we're in full-on attack mode.
Like, just the noise. Again, you talk about companies and weighing your risk.
The noise is too loud at this point. And this is Disney.
Yeah, Disney don't play. I'd like to know what happens to his other platforms.
Like, great, you won't be with Disney. Right.
What happens with Nightcap? What happens with your shit? I think he'll be fine. Some of that shit he...
I love that he's still working. Yeah.
Yeah. Because I like to see people work through the drama.
Are those his... Nightcap is...
Shea Shea isn't. Shea Shea's owned by...
Vali, right? Vali. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, look, he makes a lot of money for people.
And if you don't have a brand... If you're not brand conscious, and these YouTube channels generally aren't yeah you'll be fine now i'm sure he lost a hell of a large bag he might take some of the little logos off the youtube yeah yeah for sure yeah this is gonna be he's having a lot of private conversations in the back channels yeah for certain so i don't know if he and I'm curious To know what y'all think Like

I think he's mishandled

This at every turn

Absolutely

I agree with you

At every turn

Releasing the information

About the girl

Didn't do what he thought

It was going to do

Yeah

It hurt

Yeah

It hurt a lot more

Than it helped

Yeah

He need a fixer

Yeah

That's what it sounds like

Yeah

You need an Olivia Pope

Or somebody on your squad

You need somebody there

To say

Yo dawg

Chill out

Let us handle this

Right

Releasing the girl

Is when you lost me

Thank you. yeah that's what it sounds like yeah you need an Olivia Pope or somebody on your squad you need somebody there to say yo dawg chill out let us handle this right releasing the girl is when you lost me that didn't help either once I saw the girl yeah I'm dead ass say more it's not a $25,000 butt cheek no for me well for me it's the same for me it's same.
Same rules apply for when we talk about the age gaps the other way.

It's no difference to me.

Right.

You are 56 years old, about to be 57.

My girl was talking about, oh, he's 50 years old.

I said, no, the fuck, he ain't.

I let me hit the Google.

No, he ain't.

It's just 50.

He ain't 50.

Yeah, yeah.

No, you 56 years old old and you met the girl.

See, that's what I was asking you.

It was unclear when we recorded last time.

Uh-huh.

All that was said that broke while we were recording was he met this girl when she was 19, which is foul. But I don't know when you met the girl.

And that don't say when you started being romantic, so I won't rush to judgment.

Nigga, they say you met the girl in 2023. Nigga, that's yesterday.
Right, yeah. Right.
That's very, very, very, very recent. So now you're just nasty.
If you didn't do nothing wrong and your story is legit, you look nuts, dog. You look crazy.
And that's why he can't get back to ESPN because even if he did nothing wrong and nothing illegal, just the shit he's acknowledged he did. Yep.
Looks absolutely nuts with this little tiny OnlyFans girl. Listen, I am 41 years old.
My wife is 31 years old. We were at a college bar in Elmira this last weekend, which is all probably 21, 22-year-olds.
And I felt anxious and weird and had to get the fuck up out of there. Yeah.
Yeah. It's weird.
Obviously we have no interest in sleeping with any of these people. I don't...
You don't want to talk to them damn near. I don't even want them to look at me or...
Our world should not... We should not co-enters.
His kids are older. I'm 15 years younger than him.
Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.
His kids are older than that girl. Yeah.
That's a thing. I don't judge age gaps.
Obviously, I just said that me and my wife have a 10-year age gap. Yeah, I got a 10-year as well.
Fucking with teenagers is crazy to me. Yep.
It's wild. So he also, because there's a few angles you play when you get caught in a situation like this.
One is I didn't do it. Two, they, whoever they is, are setting me up.
So we tend to close ranks around people who get set up. You lose the, they're setting me up when you're 54 with a 19-year-old that you met at the gym.
You know what I mean? Stop right there. That's another thing I had to get clarity on when I went home and had time to think to myself.
No, you didn't. No, you didn't.
You didn't. What, meet her at the gym? You didn't.
You didn't. That's something that was able to fly last time when we were just recording there.
Oh, I met her in the gym. Alright, cool.
Once I seen it, you was not just on the fucking stair master. You wasn't just trek along.
Damn, yo. And exchanged nothing.

Stop, yo.

Stop.

Now you're playing with me now.

Yeah.

Now you're playing with me now.

Well, Theory's been floated

by his bodyguard.

He did a tweet and delete.

Absolutely.

Love tweet and delete.

Those are my favorite things

that people do.

The messiest shit ever.

The messiest shit ever.

His name is,

oh, he goes by Big Zaka

on April 24th.

He tweeted,

fuck NDA.

That's, you know, non-disclosure agreement.

Fuck NDA.

That nigga Shannon met his hoe at a ditty party when she was 17. Yikes.
Watch Kat back and you'll understand me to watch the Kat Williams interview back from 2024. Now, again, I don't know if it's true.
I don't know anything about it, but this is another piece of information in response to what you just said. Without knowing, without knowing if it's true.
just the tweet takes that cat williams level to god uh that cat williams interview to godlike status for me what's the reference in the i don't know the reference from the cat what he's what he's saying is watch the cat williams shannon sharp interview when he was talking about puff and the puff parties and in relation to meeting white girls and what white women will do to you. The Kang conversation that he mentioned, Jonathan Majors.
Monique kind of had this same conversation with him. I saw that, yeah.
But to say that, that tweet about Cad Williams, that says that Cad Williams is kind of doing this interview knowing about you. Because in that, I went to look for it.
And Cad is saying, is saying yo dog I'm able to speak this way because I know about everything I'm saying I don't these I have receipts I can talk so if you put any validity to the tweet it's like alright Cat Williams know about you and it's playing in your face got it I didn't I didn't catch that reference at's ill. That's ill.
The next stage of this is more accusations come out. One, an old accusation is revealed.
You know, there was the information that he apparently settled or Fox Sports settled a suit with an employee who said that he choked her. Now, his team responded and said it wasn't what it sounded like.

He didn't choke somebody out on the middle of the job,

but that there was some playful,

physical interactions that happened.

I guess it would be like

if we were tussling at work

and somebody decided to sue.

Like if Flip just started choking me

while we were wrestling

and I decided to sue Flip.

You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying?

Not the company.

What did you say?

I think that's page nine.

One contract. Don't do that.
Not the company. What'd you say? I think that's page nine.
One contract.

Don't do that.

Not the company.

And you can't do that with a woman, bro.

No, agree.

And we don't know if that's what happened, right?

That's his team.

But the team did say, ask Fox Sports what happened,

which you tend not to do unless you're telling the truth.

I don't know Fox Sports.

Right, exactly.

That never works on me.

Ask, no, I'm not going to do that.

But then there's the accusation from a former girlfriend that's come up of actual sexual assault and stalking.

She had a restraining order and everything.

Right.

And when he was at CBS Sports, he was sat down for a moment until the restraining order was lifted.

And they sort of let it go.

That's what I'm saying.

It's hard for him to get back to ESPN.

And again, I'm not wishing anything on anybody.

But it's hard when you see CBS, Fox, this see this case this case this case it's hard for people become less willing to believe that this is just a big misunderstanding the third time right or the fourth time or whatever it is even that even the audio of the phone call that when was first released he made it seem like it was chopped and edited

to

make him look a certain way

like he was talking dirty and then she chopped

it up and made it look like some other shit but it don't

sound great it does sound

it does sound edited but it don't

sound great and you don't sound

sexy that I know niggas

change they voice for sexy time talk

yeah come on

I've been on earth long enough to know that part

that wasn't sexy time voice

Let's go. sexy.
I know niggas change they voice for sexy time talk. Come on.
Listen, I've been on earth long enough to know that part. That wasn't sexy time voice.
I'm going to choke you. That was the other choke you.
I'm going to fuck you up. That was that.
I'm going to fuck you up. You know what you did.
That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like.
We telling the truth here? That's what it what it sounds like to me, too. Hey, yo, hold on.
We, um, and, and, I... Oh, go ahead.
I'm going to be mindful. No, you're not.
You're going to take the other side in a horrible situation like this. I'm not going to take the other side.
No. You got two years of being a country.
Hold up, y'all. I mean, what did the bitch do? I'm not taking the other side.
I just, I just, I just watch us hold ours to the fire. And, you know, the other side, you know, they are praised for dating 19 and 20-year-olds.
You know what I mean? And that's just a thing that I've been sitting with. Like, when it comes to us and our people, you know, we hold them to the fire, Shannon and...
Shannon, we kill Bill Belichick, we don't. Yeah.
That's what you're saying. When Leo and them do it and it's praise and it's like a thing.
It's like an influx. It's like a rotation of it.
Like, okay, I met her at 19. Now she's 22.
I'm going to go for another 19-year-old. And people, oh, look at this girl.
She's the hot model. Look who we got.
They're taking pictures and stuff like that. Which is...
I understand it. No disrespect to Parks and Poe and y'all culture, probably.
I don't know. But that's just the only thing I've been looking at.
Of course, also looking at what he's done. Yo, man, she's young and you playing around with her.
You know, obviously, you miss all the cues and stuff like that. You're not really in tune.
You're just out of tune. You can know when you're being recorded just how certain things are said, the gaps in the conversation.
And you just didn't pay attention. For whatever reason, whatever journey or whatever mindset you were in, you know what I mean? Prayers to him.
You know what I mean? But you got whatever's coming in, you got to deal with it. Does anyone want to address Flip's first point? I think it was an amazing point.
Thank you. And I would like to respond to it.
But my response is like some of the most ignorant shit i ever thought in my brain so i'm going to just let mark i'm gonna let mark go first see i have two thoughts on it come on mom one i don't think that all things are the same reversed right i think sometimes we do have to look at specific dynamics um however i don't think of I can't think of any situation where a 54 year old and a 19 year old makes sense regardless of the gender i'm with you two women two men men women whatever i don't care i just it's true it feels predatory and i just i just nothing a 54 year old has it's just awkward it's just at the least yeah bare minimum yeah it just doesn't feel right and it makes makes me wonder. It's just, yeah.
It's fucked up. The second piece of it, though, is I do think that, I think we give white men more leeway on that stuff.
But they do criticize Leonardo DiCaprio for it. And people do think that Al Pacino is disgusting for having like.
Bill Belichick. There's been plenty of jokes about all of the above.
They're getting challenged. But it's jokes was about to say it's just jokes yeah like at the Jeff Ross roasted it'll come up as opposed to it seeming like criminal they're not being held to the stake though they're not being held to the fire that's true and to be fair though if we found out that Bill Belichick was doing some of the things that Shannon is accused of I think the jokes would be there jokes and serious conversations would be there in the same way.
Same for Leonardo DiCaprio. And that's what I

wanted to say. I'm glad.
Thank you, Parks.

That's what I want to say.

If the same thing were happening

in the

other examples, we would

look at that a certain

way. We would.

We know evil shit. What I'm saying is we know evil shit happens on earth we do as a bystander if you older niggas would like to fuck 19 year olds then have at it but there's a way to do that so that it stays y'all business and me as a a bystander don't have anything to say about it.
That's what I was kind of thinking. Like it sounds.
The reason we don't really hear, I don't know their business. There's plenty of these old niggas that's running around getting their rocks off with these 18 and 19 year old women.
We know that. We're not stupid.
Bro, it's a lot of them niggas doing the same shit that Shannon is accused of doing. Yeah.
Why we don't know. There is a way that that stuff has to happen.
They're doing the other side of that too. For whatever reason, when the victim feels like talking now, Yeah.
that's where the door gets open. We don't hear that in a Leo case, a Belichick case.
We ain't heard nobody that they've dated come out and say nothing. We see pictures.
We see, okay, he's with this young girl. He's with this young girl, but we see him smiling.
Yeah. So we don't think nothing's wrong.
We don't know what's going on behind closed doors. And we still make jokes.
We make the jokes. But in the Shannon case, the details we heard, there is no jokes to make here.
And I'm not in the business of tearing black men down so I certainly won't use this opportunity to tear down Shannon but I'd be lying if I said my position wasn't thinking that he did a fantastic job doing that on his own. It wasn't anybody's place to do that.
For Shannon to be, Shannon now has to go into one of the greatest fall-offs you ever saw. Yeah.
Right at the, right at the. In the event that you had great things happening for Shannon the way I did.
Yeah. Well, great that they were happening already.
They started to happen. If you got 10 million on the hush, on the settlement, then great things are happening.
This, this is going down as, this is in the fucking. This is worse than Jonathan Majors.
This is way worse. This is way worse than Jonathan Majors.
Jonathan Majors was still ascending. Jonathan Majors was on the cusp of almost getting there.
Shannon had gotten there. And then jumped off.
In a second career. Oh yeah.
Third, maybe. Yeah.
Because he's been broadcasting for a little bit and then so many of his contemporaries I'm sure hated him and the trajectory he was on. Yeah.
Yeah. Actually if I believe if I believe that.
Yeah. Well then there's the Shaq rumors going around about the role that Shaq played.
Shaq is New Jersey. Yep.
There's heavy allegations there so I'm going to choose

to skip it. That's not what I do

here. But if you believe

the text messages that are going around

that she posted

or her team posted

about all of the media people that

Shannon didn't fuck with.

It was a long list.

It was a long list.

But he did say I'm cordial with them.

He's just getting up there talking.

He just met this girl and telling me everything.

Why are you confiding in this little tiny OnlyFans girl?

And if you're going to do that, get the OnlyFans girl whose subscription costs a little more than the OnlyFans.

Because that's the other thing. When you see Bill Belichick and them do it, long hair, tall, flamingo-like.
Associated with one of the big fucking Wilhelas. Don't just show me the bitch that's $4 a month that you confiding in.
No, that's not how this goes. Why do we do that? Can y'all break that down? Because I feel like...
What if the subscription is for? Wait, what part you was talking about? Sometimes they do the special, you know. Yeah, the bundle.
Remember in Jungle Fever when... Yeah, in Jungle Fever when Sam Jackson was talking about black men and white women, he was like, when a white man get a black a penthouse pet when a black man get a white woman she's a outhouse pet his whole point was we reach so far below when they're a white woman in terms of attractiveness in terms of all that stuff why the fuck that seems to be the pattern like as long as they white we happy yeah that's what it be they just want to get them a white chick.
They go for the middest of the mid-pack. I'm not going to do that.
A lot of these... Fair enough.
We're going to tell the truth. No, I'm not debating on it.
We're going to tell the truth. A lot of these niggas run around just to say, I got my white.
I got my white. I agree with that.
I don't care what it look like. Right.
You're not mediocre. I agree with that.
I'm just saying that that's not going to be my position with him. position with him No we're not saying He asking the question Why in general And that is what happens A lot of the time Niggas just be so glad To get a white chick They don't care What she look like Trash She seem to be I don't think he would Have a comparable black woman You couldn't bag A hotter white chick Yeah Like I ain't I don't wanna jungle Fever this out Niggas that date Bad white joints It's times when I stepped out And the chick across from me Was the bad white joints You got it Hey Yo Sarah Hey Vanilla He might had them.
We never saw this chick with him. You didn't.
We don't, but they play the game. They know what they doing.
They ain't said nothing. We didn't know this chick existed until she started talking.
Nigga, Michelle didn't sound like she was hot. She didn't sound like she was hot.
Yeah, she could have been hot. I'm saying that tape didn't sound like.
What I'm saying. And I'm moving the goalposts now.
I'm just saying when you of a certain ilk, certain behaviors have to stop. I don't give a fuck how you was raised.
I don't care how you grew up. Some of these niggas grew up with that dark skin, ugly nigga complex.
Yeah. Yes.
And some of them were shooting at the right hoop

and it just didn't go their way.

So now in the little white school

that they went to

or all the white trails

that they went through

to become a successful athlete,

now you just in white land.

So whether that be the bad one

or the mid one,

that's just where you're at.

You're not even shooting

the sisters no more.

But Shannon could have got him

shit for the money

that this little white girl

was talking about.

Yeah.

Y'all acting like this the only white girl. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. We don't know what he had.
She's just the one talking. Well, that's why I'm only addressing her.
Whoever else he got, for lack of a better term, is covert. Yes.
Is in silence. There's nothing to say when you're moving in silence.
As was she. Whatever your kink, if you into some wild, kinky, freak boy shit, it should be in silence.
That's when they start doing all the NDAs. Yo, the celebrity sex clubs in LA where you have to hand in your passport and sign the application and it's super super secretive like there's ways to do it you just bugging the fuck out and you have the means to do the fly shit you can't do that if you know you have a nine figure negotiation in front of you I'm not trying to make this all about the money but at some some point, we just got to use our fucking heads here.
I agree. If I'm wilding, when it's negotiation time, I stopped.
It's that simple. Hey, if I smoke weed, when it's piss test time, I stop.
I stop. Yeah.
It's not that fucking deep. It's not.
And you niggas is portraying yourself as fucking media mavens and geniuses and slip up at the worst possible spots and it's sad to fucking see. It is.
It is. It is sad.
It's sad. To your piss test theory, or your piss test example, some of them been getting away with it.
Some of them drink the tea. Not even.
They go get the tea or buy some piss. Or I got a good talk game and I can talk to them.
All right, all right. I'm going to let you go this time.
I'm not going to do it. I've been getting away with this.
Yeah. So I don't think nothing bad is going to come from it.
Right. Until it happens.
And it's like, oh shit, now I done fucked up. Well, if I was playing the odds, a 19-year-old white girl wouldn't be the odds I would play to not get in trouble.
Yeah. Detox.
Yeah. Man, go date somebody your fucking age or not far from it.
When you 56, dog, you got the whole 40 and ups. There's 40 and ups out there.
35? 35 is perfect. Yo, if you got 25,000 per cheek, if you got it like that, yo, dog, you do not have to fuck little tiny Alice.
Yeah. But you know what, dog? It's the same thing when we had the Tracee Ellis conversation.
And I said, to me, it sounded like she wanted to do some shit to people that the older niggas might not have been with. Some of them older chicks ain't going for the shit that he want.
You got to get somebody that... He was into some wild shit going by her message.
Can we talk about some of that wild shit for a minute? Sure. Sure, please.
And then we'll go to an ad. I'm down.
I'm kink shaming now. I know I said we don't kink shame.
That's off the table. I'm kink shaming now.
I saw your tweet, and I agree with it so much. You were talking about kink shaming.
And I was like, yeah, generally I don't. But slave play in particular.
And this isn't technically slave play, but it's in that genre. It's in the realm.
You know, even the text message, I want you to put a big black baby in me. Once people start talking like that to a black person and they not black, it's going down a certain lane.
Yes. And that seemed to be the type of time he was on as far as like wanting certain kinds of sex.
We talk to a certain way to treat her a certain kind of way. And like you say, if you got that big black butt complex, then you feel like you getting a little bit of- You getting it off.
Some get back by tossing the girl from Cinnabon around and shit. So- Niggas watching Rosewood.
Right, right. I think that, I think there's a misconception that when we say, or when I say, let me speak for us, I don't kink shame that you're admonishing all rules that come along with having a kink.
And that's not what I'm saying. No word.
I'm not going to kink shame because I don't kink shame. That's not in my ministry.
Whatever gets your dick going or your vagina going behind closed doors is your business. And I can't tell you nothing about it, no matter how egregious it may seem to me.
However, you shouldn't text your kink. I shouldn't know your kink.
Texting a kink is very, now you've entered the world of legalities. That's right.
Now you've entered the world of public opinion. Yeah.
It's almost like that unwritten rule of, or joke in my household, of, hey, whatever we say during sexy time, you can't wake up in the morning and start telling me what the fuck I said. No, fuck no.
You can't do that. That ain't law.
That was in passion, nigga. That was in the whole thing.
I said mad shit night. I said mad crazy shit, nigga.
We'll hear that again, right? The sun is up. Yo, nigga, I feel the shame, nigga.
It's like a vampire, nigga. My body start to burn.
All that shit, I don't want to. All that shit I said, nigga, that was in the moment.
Sorry, that was horny. That was in the moment.
That was horny. Yeah, I'm sorry.
That was horny talk. The horny do that.
I just think he broke a lot of rules that come up. He just old, Joe.
That's it. He old.
Older is supposed to mean wiser. No, yes.
Not for everybody. Not for everyone.
Not for everybody, though. I said supposed to.
And on top of that, I feel I'm not blaming anyone. I just feel, hmm, no.
I think them football niggas got a different type of aggression. And just because you stop playing football don't mean that.
It's like aggression goes away. I always refer back to Ghost Power Season 1, where every time Ghost went and killed somebody, he went and fucked Angela or his wife with a different type of dick having visions of the murder.
Like that was telling a story. I believe that to be true, though.
I've never killed anybody. I can see football players having to still get that shit off when they're not on the field.
Especially if you, and I'm not talking about Shannon now, if you're putting certain things in your body, if you're juicing, you don't know what effects other things are having on you. We've seen retired football players, you know, snap.
Yeah. With a lot of aggression and then it's CTE and it's stuff like that.
Like, we've seen this. We've seen a whole pattern of this.
So, yeah, they do have that aggression way after leaving the game. And back to Ryan Coogler's point.
Just don't happen if you don't invite them in. That's it.
Just don't happen if you don't invite them in. You invite them in, for real.
I saw a preview of a football movie, too, with Marlon Wayans. I don't support him.
Marlon Wayans. It's not Marlon Wayans.
I don't support that's Jordan Peele. Yeah, Peele.
Oh, you don't support him? Nope. Y'all got beef? No.
I don't got beef with him. Stylistically, I'm not into what he does.
His name to me says no. When I see his name on it, I'm cool.
His name. I'm not going to lie.
Senators was like a Jordan Peele, but like, well done. Yeah.
I was about to say, I think that's an insult to Ron Coogler, but I see what you're saying. Yeah.
I see what you're saying. Yeah, explain that to me later.
That's my point. Explain that to me later of why I don't, because...
He just fooled me too many times. That's all.
He just what? He just fooled me too many times. There's black people that pull on the equity differently.
There's black people that use their Hollywood green light to tell other stories. Okay.
I like Jordan Peele too. And maybe lean on the blackness for marketing or a very surface level, low-hanging fruit type of storyline in terms of societal norms and racism and historically, yada, yada, yada, yada.
Okay. It was nothing but nuance and substance and culture in that Ryan Coogler shit.
Yeah. Somebody that just breezed by the culture can't do it.
You can't fake it. It's back to the Kendrick Drick point that I leaving.
But that's what I'm trying to say. That's what it is.
That's what Brian Coogler versus Jordan Peel is for me. Like I didn't rush to all that Jordan Peel shit.
Any Jordan Peel movie that you did like Joe? Any Jordan Peel movie that you liked initially? I'm sure you had one. Get out.
Get figured you like, get out. I like the Aliens one with I like that one.
I hated the

Oh, no. I ain't fuck with that either.

I like that one. I absolutely hated that.

I hated that.

I think I hated Get Out too.

Whatever the one is where they ended up holding

hands at the end. Oh, that's Us.

That was horrible. And Us,

I hate. That's probably one of my worst movies ever.
Really? But it was, and I can admit it, it was the marketing behind the movie that, like, it set an expectation going into it. Yeah.
And when I saw the movie, I'm like, okay, y'all are bullshitting with me. This is like M.
N. Shamblin.
Yeah, he's on the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jordan Peele and him are on the same list to me. And I feel like all those are the same movies.
A little bit. Me.
A little bit. Get Out was good.
My favorite thing that Jordan Peele introduced me to was the slowing down of hip-hop classics to make it sound like some Freddy Krueger anthem. And that was working for us.
Just that alone was working. Everybody stole that.
Get Out was with the guy escaping from the white people that was trying to have a child in the basement. Yeah.
Got it. Sunken place.
Sunken place. I thought that was, that's my favorite one.
That was amazing. That was amazing.
But his stuff feels a little didactic at times. Like it feels very like heavy handed and like, there's just no subtlety to it.
Remember like, don't be a mess. Maybe like message.
Sometimes I feel like that's what he's doing. Whereas with, I'm talking about appeal, but with Ryan Coogler, it's the exact opposite.
Like, that Buddy Guy scene was probably the most didactic of the whole thing, and that happened as a postscript. The rest of the film was subtle and smooth, and I don't feel like I get that sometimes.
It feels like too much. And it feels like Twitter banter sometimes, his films, for me.
Like, it feels like how people who talk about race on Twitter. Exactly.
Like, the biracial. So, not speaking on behalf of us.
What he thinks us is. Yeah, he is.
He's us. He thinks he is.
And he's doing that with some people. Got it.
Okay. Yeah, it's a certain kind of person.
Can I ask you a rich person question related to. Boy, you rich nigga answer.
I'm not. Rich person to rich person.
That's why I asked you. Hey, answer it then, nigga.
This is from the poorest to the rich. No, no, no, no.
We're not going to do that. When you hear the question, you'll understand.
From the rich to the rich. I wrote down your block the other day.
You didn't write down my block. Go ahead, though.
No, Mark living that good side of town. We don't have blocks.
We don't have blocks where he's at. I know where I wrote in that area the other day.
No, no, no. We don't let y'all in.
Oh, shit. I would have gotten an alert.
Citizens app. Citizens out.
You got some other shit, nigga. Exactly.
I would have gotten an alert. Shannon Sharp acknowledged, his attorney acknowledged that they offered up to $10 million as a settlement.
What, up to $10 million? He said tens of millions. So that could have been $20 million.
So strategically, that feels crazy to that feels crazy to me because to me, what the public hears when they say I offered a 10 million is I did something wrong. You give away a million as a nuisance, right? Let's assume he's really looking at 100 M's, right? You'll do a million for a nuisance suit because you don't want no problems.
Dog, I will do 10, 15. If I'm looking at a hundred.

If it's a real hundred.

And you can fuck this hundred up.

Yeah.

What do I?

Oh, you ask his question.

I can't speak for me.

What's the number

that makes you say,

I don't care if I didn't do it.

I'm still not spending this much money.

It's all relative to how much you make.

Okay.

And how much is at risk? It's all relative to how much you make okay it's all much is at risk it's all relative to how much you make and will make yes that's what i'm saying so then did he misplay this because it seems to me if she's let's say she was asking for 20 in retrospect should he have just given up to 20 that's when your niggerdom comes kicks in because you'll read something and you don't feel like you've done too much, too much this crazy. You'll live with the results.
You'll read something and be like, 20 million? No, I don't, that's not in my mind, body. I just can't.
I have a bunch of fingers. It's the same shit we talked about with Puff and Cassie.
Yes, that's a good example. Where it was, in hindsight...
Well, it's a bad example because in our step, we're talking about the person is innocent. I'm just saying in hindsight...
The Cassie shit, he knew what the fuck... Yeah.
He knew what it was. Cool.
And he still said no. That's a different type of arrogance.
Yeah, that's next level. We're talking about just making the right decision, not in your arrogance and your pride and your ego.
This still sounds like arrogance, though. And to be clear, I'm not suggesting he's innocent, just in this hypothetical.
Well, yeah, yes. In the hypothetical, if you didn't do, because that's what keeps going, that's the question that keeps going around.
If you're innocent, why would you pay $10 million? Why would you offer, that's what keeps going around. And if you've never been in this situation, and if you've never sniffed that type of type of coin then no it's not going to make sense to you.
There's not many people out there listening that can relate to being to having nine figures on the table in the coming months. You know what they can relate to? I didn't do this crime.
But they're saying you take it to trial you look at this or you take the plea and you take this. And a lot of niggas will take that plea on an innocent because the other side is just too costly on the other side.
It's true in the world of criminality. I haven't entered that world.
I'm still in business politics. I'm not in criminal anything.
There are people that were completely innocent, not in the criminal world that took the plea because they're telling them... Even like they settle.
Yes, it's a settle. It's the same thing.
It's a settlement. It's a different settlement in the world of criminality.
Trading time versus trading your coin is what I'm going to keep focusing on. They say to you in this world.
When I was going through something like this, they said, yo, can't nobody tell you what to do in this situation but you because you're the only one that knows how much you make and how much you will make take all emotions out of it it don't matter who's right and it don't matter who's wrong we're only doing math right now and once that was said well it changes the it. That's why I think Shannon did bad math.
I think ego gets into it. 10 million is a lot of money if you feel like you innocent and you were just on some BDSM consensual section.
10 million is a lot to dig in your pocket and give somebody. And that's where somebody was supposed to tell you, cool, consensual BDSM shit.
We hear now. This noise that she's making, that 100 million on the table and the next one, the 250 that might come down the line, this could cost you that.
That's what I'm saying. So now weigh those numbers.
Weigh this 10 million here versus 350 million here. He makes 6.7 million, I believe, a year at ESPN.
I think that's the estimate. It's somewhere in that neighborhood, give or take $100,000 a year.
He's looking at a $100 million contract, and he's relatively young for media. He could have made a quarter of a billion dollars before he died.
And by not spending that $10, or whatever the number is, $20, whatever, he may have cost himself all of that money. And that's where a real advisor comes in and shows you what's really at risk here.
Right. You're right.
But the reality of it was. And I hate to say this because I'm rooting for him to do as great as he could.
The reality of it was he was probably shooting high for the hundred. So let's chop it in half.
Let's say he landed at 50.

Now that 10 million looks different.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because after taxes, that's 25 and now you're giving 10 of it.

That looks like I'm putting all my chips to the table to try to get this out the way or keep it low until I secure my deal.

That's real.

That's real.

And that might have been his calculation.

And who knows what she was actually asking for?

I don't care what she was asking for.

I care about what he offered. You offered 10? Yeah, that's wild.
Spe that might have been his calculation. And who knows what she was actually asking for? Right.
I don't care what she was asking for. I care about what he offered.

You offered 10?

Yeah, that's wild.

Speaks volumes.

Yeah.

That says a lot.

See, when we were recording last time, I had only heard that from her attorney.

Right.

But that came from his attorney.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, we got to look at this totally different.

Right.

Which, again, bad strategy.

But anyway, I just.

And mediation costs a lot of money.

I'm curious to know if they attempted that. Wasn't that number offered in mediation? I didn't hear that.
I didn't hear that. You might be right.
I didn't hear it. I didn't hear in mediation.
But we can check that. Yeah.
Oh, my God. But mediation costs money.
These attorneys cost money. And when you're in these settlement talks, they tell you the longer this goes, it's only bad for the person that makes the money.
Like, the longer this goes, it's only bad for you. And in the event that you lose and it only take one person for you to lose, then you

paying me and you paying her attorneys

and you paying her attorneys as

well, like, you just

start doing math, I'm sorry, my phone

you just start doing

math and it becomes

a lot

Davis, who is his attorney

also said Sharp was willing to pay at least

10 million in a settlement for the accused of silence

the two were amid mediation prior

to the lawsuit being filed

Thank you. Davis, who is his attorney, also said Sharp was willing to pay at least $10 million in a settlement for the accused of silence.
The two were amid mediation prior to the lawsuit being filed. So that's from mediation.
That's from mediation. Wow.
So we're already here. So there must be a lot.
Because I talked to my brother who does the one. Hey, Frazier.
The other one. The one who represents Frazier's.
Hey, man. Yo, yo.
He's an attorney. Yo, I'm sticking out for Frazier.
I don't fuck with Mark B. I don't just Frazier.
Anyway, go ahead. And I asked him, I said, what do you think this would be worth to a jury based on the information we have right now? He said probably, he said, I would be trying to get somewhere around $2 to $5 million as an outcome.
And when I see these kinds of cases, I don't see people get, let's assume Shannon's guilty of everything. I don't see him getting $20 million from a jury.
So I'm wondering what her game plan is. Because most people will take $10 million.
When you don't have any money and you're looking at a $10 million payoff. And again, I'm not.
Could be something more in there. And that's my point.
I'm thinking there has to be a whole lot more in there. Or there's a lot of embarrassing stuff that isn't guilt or innocence.
But that he just doesn't want the world to know. More texts, more stories, more jokes.
I mean lot more in there or there's a lot of embarrassing stuff that isn't guilt or innocence but that he just doesn't want the world to know more texts more stories no i mean i mean something more in there in terms of there's a bigger goal here not just not just to get money oh what are you thinking like to get famous no we need to take this all the way through to end him and whatever money we get from the jury is just what we get got it bigger plan here. Got you.
Yeah, I don't look at it like that either, right? Like, at this point, when one person is playing with house money, and this is where the lawyer games start to come into play, because you have the Busby's of the world and the likes of him going to victims and saying, no matter how long this takes, it's not going to cost you a dime. And if we lose, it's not going to cost you a dime.
Yeah, so that is nothing to lose here. And I think you can get way more than this 10.
I think the floor that we looking at is 25. Jesus.
Wow. So then you got one side that appears a little unrealistic, but rightfully so, and one side that's working with whatever they're working with, and it's just a clash.
It's tough. It's tough.
Again, good luck to all parties involved. Prayers to the victims.
I'm sure we'll hear more. And more will be revealed, as they say.
Indeed. My last question to you.
Does this legitimize Busby at all for you? No. No.
No, because... Broken clock is right twice a day? I was just about to say.
Yeah. Got it.
Yeah. Got it.
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With that being said, all is right in the universe. Got me a call? Gotta make a phone call.
Gotta make a call. All is right again in the universe.
I want to see if my good friend and Jared Jack will answer his phone. Me and him have been doing this thing where we talk after every game.
What? Yo, this is Joe Budden. May I speak to Jared Jack, please? This is him.
What do you have to say for yourself? All is back right in the world. All is back right.
All is back right. Home court is restored where it's supposed to be.
Big bodega bitched y'all around. Y'all didn't want to fight.
When your man Beef Stew

ain't around,

y'all ain't so tough, huh?

Yeah.

Right in your shift

and then,

but we had a game.

You breaking up.

You breaking up,

Jared Jack.

Go to the good side

of the house

so we can hear

what you got to say

about the Pistons.

Oh, shit.

Oh, wow.

Oh, shit. I can't hear what you got to say about the Pistons.
Oh, wow. I can't hear what you got to say about the Pistons.
Damn, it looks like we've lost our connection with Jared Jack. And I ain't Pat McAfee, so I don't know if we'll get him back.
There you go. Hey.
We good? We good, we good. What's up, bro? What you got to say for yourself? Hey, man, very entertaining game last game.
We, you know, had some hiccups that we're going to clean up. We're right here at practice.
I don't think I can perform. I look forward to writing.
Looks like you guys were introduced to the NBA Clutch Player of the Year. Who was that? You talking about Mr.
Brunson? It looks like you guys had a good firm understanding on why mr brunson won nba clutch player of the year amongst all that k chatter that was going on it's over yo yeah yeah i lost him damn man i lost him anyway all is back right in world. The Knicks are up 2-1.
The Giants had an amazing first round of the NFL draft. What would you guys like to get to the draft? Shador Sanders.
Is it racism? The Giants had a great first round? Yes. Because I saw the report card show.
They gave him a D. I don't know where you saw that.
Abdul Carter was, for some people, the number one. Travis was also.
I don't know where you saw that, Freeze. Abdul Carter's a good big.
Most publications give us an A, not an A+, but I'm not getting mine from that. I'm getting mine from just having eyes and a little bit of football knowledge.
Like Park said, Abdul Carter was ranked as the number one player on some boards. He was just injured last year.
He's coming off an injury. If the Titans don't need a quarterback, if the teams ahead of the Giants don't need a quarterback, Abdul Carter probably comes off the board first or second.
And forget about that. You now have a front line of Thibodeau, Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, and now Abdul Carter.
That has to sound like terror. Yeah, that's a nice D-line.
I don't care what happens on offense now, but now you still go and trade two third rounders, I think, to move up to the first round to get your quarterback of the future, which is Jackson Dart. Some people say that should have been Shador.
But I thought it should have been Shador as well. However, the scouting report on Jackson Dart seems Josh Allen-ish is what they say.
Big guy that likes to just gun-sling it and toss it around. They say we got the white version of Jameis Winston.
That's what they're saying. I don't know enough about him to say, but I know the Giants are not drafting a black quarterback.
I'm shocked we even have two black quarterbacks in our quarterback room. Y'all got the black Jameis Winston too, right? We got Jameis Winston.
We got Russell Wilson. We got DeVito, our Italian dude.
And we got Jackson Dart. Must be nice to have a quarterback.
The Giants had a really, really, really amazing first round. I can't wait to see that D-line in person.
And we still got picks. Yeah.
We still got picks. I'm happy with my Dolphins.
We picked Kenny Grant, who's a monster D tackle. He's like 6'4", 350, and ran like a 4'8".
I saw clips of him running down and running back 20 yards down the field. I'm excited.
How did my Eagles do? They did. They picked up the linebacker from Alabama who's really good.
They always fucking have good. I was the best in the game.
So I just always assumed that the Eagles did the best. That's what I'm hoping for.
West Bumman, I got a race. And after that, Jalen Carter pick.
Jihad Campbell. He's nice.
Oh, okay. So football question, because again, I don't know very little about football.
I'm sorry, y'all. I'm getting in there.
I'm sorry, y'all. Someone's interrupting us.
We have one of the best episodes of the year. Someone's interrupting us.
Hello? Hey, man, I just want to let you know I'm not running from the smoke. That's what it looked like.
I played well. I'll see y'all Sunday for game four.
What do you think about the backcourt heard around the world? I think the explanation that was told to us was new. We've never heard of that interpretation at all.

Me either.

I love when a fake rule leans in favor of your team.

The momentum carrying you over half court.

Oh, man.

You going to take that?

You like that?

I absolutely love it.

I absolutely love it.

Listen, man, good luck.

Y'all had a good year.

We're going to make this thing 3-1. We're going to make this thing 3-1 by the next time I speak to you.
And then we'll see what happens from there. But you boys definitely, y'all had a good time.
At game two, when I went to the concession stand to get my seafood, I saw a nigga that looked exactly like Tobias Harris standing behind me.

What do you know? Who would have thought

Tobias Harris' brothers

look exactly like Tobias

Harris, had a great talk with

them, and I'm phony, so I said, yo,

tell your brother I love him.

I love what he's doing.

Follow him on the gram. That's my brother.

Just not today. I love Tobias Harris.

Even I did kick his back in when he was on the Sixers.

We talked about that, too.

I did, too.

But listen, man.

Y'all did good, Jarrett.

Y'all did good.

Ain't no...

Stop speaking in passing to me.

That's disrespectful.

But all right.

All right.

All right.

But all right.

I'll stop speaking to you like that if you just say this with me real quick.

I'm not going to be...

His name is Jalen Brunson.

I'm going to not repeat those words. Come on, please.
No, no, thank you. His name is Jalen Brunson.
No, thank you. Yo, y'all even pulled out some Detroit celebrities trying to have like an aura, trying to have atmosphere.
I seen Chris Webb in the building. You saw us out there? Yeah, I see Jalen Rose out there.
Who else was out there? I seen a couple bad bitches. Y'all trying to have some aura out there.
I like it. Hey, don't hate on our court side, dog.
Just make sure you know the seating chart for when we come back up there. Hey, we squashed it.
Hey, me and Fifth is good now. Congratulations, man.
Y'all unified for the Knicks. Ain't that cute? Yo, listen to this.
Let me tell you this before we hang up. A lot of New York niggas heading to game four.
I spoke to Wien. There's going to be a lot of New York niggas at game four in the Piston Stadium.
I mean, in the Piston's Palace. Tell them to come on through.
Tell them to come in. Tell them to break.
Tell them to behave, though. Come have a Coney.
Come have a Coney on y'all. What do you think? Hey, man, we with it.
We with it. Hey, hey, I might see y'all for game five.
I got it. All right, boy.
My man. Love you, boy.
All right, peace. Peace.
I love when people don't run from the... Don't run from it.
If you can dish it when you win... Respect it.
He called back. Answer the call when you lose.
That's our boy, Jared Jack, friend of the show. We love him.
And again, shout out to the Pistons for all they've done, but we're going to take good care of them. Before we go to football, there's a basketball thing that came up too since we're talking hoop real quick.
Oh, let's do it. The NBA Players Association, NBA players rather, do their voting.
You always get the players versions like MVP, most improved, et cetera. They rank the league's most overrated player all the nba players or 90 votes 90 nba players voted it's a significant number yeah i'm not a lot i mean it's only 12 on each team it's 425 players it's 90 it's not even half yeah it's like 25 i mean shit that's i think that's a good sample is all I'm saying.
Let's see. I wish they all vote.

By far, the most overrated player in the NBA by the player's assessment,

Tyrese Halliburton.

Damn.

Wow.

Interesting.

I thought that was super interesting.

They might be right.

That's them saying that he not like that.

Exactly.

It's not that he not nice.

Okay.

But you not like that.

Right.

It's not what they make you do.

You not. Okay.

Okay.

Because number two was Rudy Gobert, which is a consistent thing.

I'll see you next time. Exactly.
It's not that he not nice. Okay.
But you're not like that. Right.
It's not what they make you do. Okay.
Okay. Because number two was Rudy Gobert, which is a consistent thing.
I'm rolling. Tyrese Halliburton got 14.4%.
Of the 90 votes. Yeah.
Rudy Gobert got 10%. Under him was Trey Young at 9%.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Then to Joe's point, once you get to the three and two percent, to me, that's just two or three people saying they don't like you.
You know what I mean? Because after that was Jimmy Butler, Bradley Beal, who I think might be right too, Draymond, John Morant, Julius Randle. John Morant was on.
Yeah. Yeah, John.
Again, some of it is that you're not like that. Like if you're projected to be a superstar and they're like, eh, maybe he's not a superstar.
14% out of the 90s, 12 people. Yeah.
And while we're here, let me say again, for the second or third year in a row, I absolutely hate what the NBA has done to the Most Improved Player Award. Yeah, you've been on that since y'all won it.
It's ridiculous now. You don't like it when the stars get, when you go from year one to year two of a superstar, you want it to be more the more of like a uh cade cade is is is oh yeah projected to win oh yeah that's stupid i don't like that either i don't like he's up for the finalists and the most improved yeah and if you've seen any cleveland cavalier game this year then that white boy that comes off the bench that they'll probably give six man of the year should also win most improved player of the year if you you know his story and you see what they're doing, they damn near, they second, number one in the East, 60 something wins out of nowhere, nobody projected that.
Like, come on, stop playing with him. That's how it was back in the day.
Cade is the number one pick. Yeah.
Most improved didn't used to go to superstars when stars become superstars. It used to be guys who you didn't expect.
And names we didn't know. Didn't even know them.
Right. Yeah.
All right, so football. Football.
Break it down for me, y'all. I don't understand this.
I saw all year people telling me Shador Sanders was going to be maybe a top five pick. Then I heard one from number one to top five to top ten.
As of this recording, he hasn't been drafted yet. They had a full first day of drafting.
He doesn't get drafted. And I see reports on the internet, some people saying it's because he's a quote-unquote thug or because they don't like his style or his attitude.
Then I see other people saying that it's all a roost and he's just not that good. He's overrated.
And the GMs know that. And I don't know anything about football, so I have no idea what's true.
I think there's a little spruce of a little bit of both things have some levels of truth to them. I think that this quarterback class was pretty widely regarded as not as strong as previous quarterback classes.
I think in other years, Shador would have definitely been a second round pick. I do think that he is a good quarterback.
I also do think that he and his family have clout and can kind of pick where they go. So they may have went to interviews with certain teams and gave a bad interview on purpose.

Got you.

Like, I don't want to be in wherever fell in the blank.

Like, I heard he totally shitted the Giants interview.

Yeah.

Really?

I heard that.

I heard that too.

So then when the Giants trade up and you're there, it's like, okay, you're not on that list.

You don't want to come here.

You don't want to be here. And not just that, that word gets out.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Small business.
Yeah. So now other people are like, oh, this is how you're moving? Yeah.
So I think that it's a little bit of both. I think that he is a good quarterback, and I think he will probably develop into a good NFL quarterback.
Like a starter? Yeah, I think he'll be a starter. Yeah.
His comp is Tua. A second and third round pick is a starter.
He should be, right? Yeah. It may take him a while to get used to the game.
I guess one of the knocks on him is like on some Madden shit when you run backwards trying to evade some tackles and get a sack for 10. That happens to him a lot, but he does have good accuracy and timing.
He's got some things to work on. Okay.
And I think some teams are turned off by the whole Sanders experience. For better or worse.
I think it's more of that. I think both things can be true, but I think the teams being turned off by the flashiness and the Sanders shit is weighing more on it for him.
There are teams, hey, the Steelers, who absolutely need a quarterback. I thought he was going there.
When I saw him make it past, I was getting off a plane with the AirPod in, and as soon as I saw pick nine and he wasn't picked, I'm like, I'm looking at the rest of the team. They all got quarterbacks.
I'm like, we 21. Yes.
I've been saying forever. I've been telling y'all, I want a young quarterback.
I don't want one of these old washed up niggas who on his way out the league. I give a young quarterback a shot and let him develop with the team.
Shit almost ruined your whole PJ experience. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, economy.
Shit almost ruined the whole jet. Economy.
I stepped off the jet and seen, yo, wait. Economy.
The economy, John. Yeah, economy.
But, uh. Economy jet.
But yeah, I'm just like, once I saw that, I said, okay, to me, it was just something a little bit more in play. I will say the Browns have two picks in the top four of the second round.
I would expect him probably to maybe go to one of those. If he doesn't get drafted in the top half of the second round or in the second round at all, are we then willing to say this is not about football? It's not about football now.
I don't think it's about football. Yeah.
It's not about football now. I'm on the side of everything that you hear is true.
Okay. Everything that you hear is true.
All sides of it. The racism in football, the history in terms of the Lamar Jacksons and the yada, yada, yada.
All of that's there. Talent-wise, all of that could be true.
Projection-wise, you're not the tallest. You're not the beautiful.
Arm strength's not. That's true.
There are, this was a weak quarterback class. Next year is projected to be a really strong quarterback class.
Next two years. Everything that people are saying is true.
The family, Deion Sanders, what comes with that. Nobody's wrong.
And, I mean, let's keep it a buck. Like, all that extra shit he did for the draft, people don't want that.
What was he doing? He got a whole custom draft room built with all of this shit in there. Oh, shit.
It was a lot. You can't make a draft room if you're not in the first round.
I could see him going to New Orleans at eight in the second round, too, actually. That would make sense.
With a less than ideal arm strength being in a dome for a majority of your games oh yeah you want them in a dome yeah i could see that being and whoever's getting them is getting them at great value absolutely oh absolutely getting them at great value is gonna be a hell of a pick yeah and and i and i hate that this celebratory moment for this guy has turned into the oh what a letdown you didn't get picked in the first round. No, you had a light.
See, I'm not. I also don't think that that's entirely maybe the case.
I don't know the family, obviously, but I think internally they may have somewhere that they want to go and are not mad that they didn't end up having to go to Cleveland or. Where would they want to go if you're.
I would imagine the Sanders family would love something like Dallas. I could see New Orleans being something that would maybe,

I don't know, again, I don't know them.

They may have somewhere that they love as a family or whatever.

Are you thinking like market or are you thinking like kind of team? I think a combination of market and city and team.

They are more informed than the parents of the kid

who haven't gone through any of this NFL shit ever.

They have more intel.

That makes sense.

Okay.

And more pull.

Yeah. To be like, no, we're not.
If you draft us, like what happened with Eli back in the day. I'm not going to the Chargers.
We've seen other teams happen. Gentee to the Raiders has fucked up my entire fantasy plan right now.
I have no idea what's going on. Why? Because it's always the one rookie running back that you know is going to get a heavy load that's going to be projected top four in fantasy to throw off the whole first round of fantasy.
Sure is. Pete Carroll there too.
He's going to cook. It's going to be a little tricky.
It is. Push your door though.
Once I saw this happen I'm just like it makes me root for him more though. For sure.
Now I want you to, wherever you go, I want you to kill it. Make everybody pay.
Yeah, I think

Lamar Jackson again. We

watched all y'all skip me and now

y'all are going to pay. Not saying he has the same

talent, but I'm just saying

I'm rooting for him even

more now. He is an

entertaining football player at the very least. He's

a good football player. I think if he

ends up in a team that he likes

and a coach that he likes

and a city that he likes,

he will absolutely thrive.

I'm rooting for him.

And again, I think that he's got the pull

to make that happen.

And I think some of these other teams know

he ain't going to show up here.

Yeah, it's not going to work out.

So we're not going to waste it.

Yeah, let's get a de-tackle or whatever.

But it's definitely some racism.

Probably, yeah. There's always racism with black quarterbacksle or whatever.
But it's definitely some racism. Probably, yeah.

There's always racism with black quarterbacks.

Right.

But when it comes to the NFL, right, like Mark just said,

if we're talking NFL, racism is at play,

and I don't think you get to conveniently pull the card

because if we're all here, then it's a racism you can root for

that you're fine with.

If the racism is palatable for you, then go Cowboys. So I don't want that shit.
Speaking of Celebrity Sons this Elijah Arenas thing? What the hell happened? Yeah, yeah. So the report came out it was very vague.
It just said he was involved in a car accident taken to the hospital and was in a coma. Oh shit.
Oh Oh. So then more information came out.
I believe it was Vlad who said he spoke to Gilbert Arenas and said he was, he had an accident, the vehicle caught on fire and it was a lot of smoke inhalation and what they do is they just induce you to get rid of smoke. But it did, last I read expected to be okay.
We're still prayers, though. Still prayers.
Yeah, definitely prayers. Prayers up to the Arenas family.
I do have a statement from the family. Okay.
In a remarkable and hopeful development, Elijah Arenas has come out of his coma and has shown significant signs of progress within the last 24 hours. In a powerful and emotional moment, Elijah opened his eyes and was able to write on a piece of paper that he remembered the smoke and asked, did anyone get hurt? Although he remains intubated? Yes.
This progress, let me make this bigger because I told you I'm losing my eyesight. Once you get 40, it go..
Yeah, now it's gone. This progress marks a, my mom be having to fawn on her texts the size of the phone.
I see one letter. God damn it.
This progress marks a critical step forward in his recovery. His mother, Laura Govan, father Gilbert Arenas, siblings and family have been by his side every step of the way, holding on to faith and drawing strength from the prayers and love pouring in from around the world one of the brave individuals who helped rescue elijah from the burning vehicle shared his harrowing account of that day i remember hearing banging on the car window but i couldn't see anything because the smoke was so thick that's when i realized someone was inside i tried to break the window but wouldn't it wouldn't.
Then I saw one of the windows was cracked just enough, and we used everything we had to bend it and pull him out. The car was on fire.
We just knew we had to get him out. This act of courage, along with Elijah's incredible will to survive, has been nothing short of miraculous.
The family continues to ask for the public's prayers and support as their miracle baby fights his way back to a full recovery they remain deeply grateful for the exceptional care provided by his medical team and the overwhelming love and encouragement from the community further updates will be shared as elijah continues to heal end quote wow i'm sending love and prayers he's an excellent young basketball player but at this point it's like you don't even want to think about sports. You just want that boy to be okay.
Just want him to be alright. Yeah.
And thank God he seems to be on the right path. I was real happy about the coma coming from the fumes and that his body was...
Yeah, because when he first hit coma,

you like...

Because once we get to,

yo, he's alive and he's all right,

dude, I'm getting right to the money

right after that.

My baby's a star.

Right.

My baby had a bright future now.

Don't play.

Don't play.

We getting back to it.

Right, he a first-round pick.

Right.

Yeah, we ain't playing.

Yeah, that's why I don't even

want to hear that shit

about Bronny, man.

And that nigga LeBron

got that call.

His son had a heart problem. Nigga, he had to go into scandal mode.
Yeah. Seriously.
Whatever. Speaking of Bronny.
I'm sorry. I'd be there with you, bro.
Kevin Gates at the Lakers game. Let's do it.
Oh, shit. Why is this such a thing? Because people are stupid.
Yeah, but it's funny. What's funny about it? Okay, here's why it's a thing.
Bron confronted Stephen A. At the Laker game.
That's why it's a thing, though. I'm telling you why it's a thing.
But stop it, yo. He's wrong.
He confronted Stephen A at the Laker game. So now, again, Bron ignores all the bullshit.
He's been excellent at ignoring the bullshit for years. Right.
Kevin Gates has said whatever he said about Bron and about his wife. About his wife, yeah.
And they responded. So now you...
You did that Instagram post. Right.
You've addressed this which you normally don't address shit. Keep the same energy.
So now, for Kevin Gates, I'm going to the Laker game, sitting courtside.

Let's see you address me.

That's why people have made it a thing.

I hate when Ice speaks for the internet.

I'm not.

Ice speaks for the internet.

He does. He's like the Lorax.

Sometimes I love that.

I'm telling you.

Sometimes I love that and sometimes I hate it.

But you asked me why this is a thing.

I know, but now that you told me, you have to get my fucking internet vitriol.

Go ahead. We have to stop.
Fair. Who's on? Are you on the side, Mark? No, I'm on the side of saying that's why people are making a thing.
That's what I'm trying to say. I think this shit is stupid.
Okay. I think it's all dumb.
Kevin Gates is not Stephen A. Smith.
He's not Stephen A. Smith.
At all. LeBron should ignore him.
And I did it. Kevin Gates was going to work.
I think LeBron should have ignored him not even with the post. They should have completely ignored him.
Yeah, I wish he'd ignored the post. You can't press somebody earlier in Stephen A and then not keep the same energy.
Yes, you can. That's another rule that they had made up.
You absolutely can. You can't do that.
You not him. Yeah, but it don't matter.
You can't pick and choose. I didn't understand.
Oh, Joed was not barking at 15. No.
Don't try to sneak your little 50 cent ticket. That's different.
It's not. You're Stephen A in this one.
You smelled that man cologne. That's different.
That's true. He smelled mine.
He turned around and looked at you. He smelled mine.
It smelled remarkable. Yeah, but you was staring there hoping he didn't turn around.
See, I didn't get to get my jokes off. Oh, that's true.
You was playing. We got time.
We got time. Hey, Big Free.
I saw that big thing. Joe was sitting there like, God, I hope the ball don't come over here.
Don't put me on the screen. Just nothing.
Oh, God, no, please. I saw you.
You didn't want no concessions. Nope.
Don't keep walking. I don't want nothing.
You heard him say he went upstairs to get his concession. He didn't go to the VIP VIP.
Got up out of there, too. He was eating cotton candy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was going quick.
He was like, quick. He started the second half at the 4040.
You like a chipmunk, nigga. Alvin, Simon, and Theodore, nigga.
They trying to play my son. Listen, the point that I was making was.
You ain't feel that way. Of watched that.
Of course I didn't feel that way, but I'm not stepping on no jokes.

Now, why?

Why not?

Even they saying that me saying I'm not stepping on no joke is my new way of stepping on jokes.

It's a fire way.

It's a fire way.

No, I'm shutting up now.

We know.

I'm shutting up now.

Yeah.

I encouraged the jokes on me, and this was a good one.

I thought for sure that this was skyrocketing me in part of the month, but somehow I think

it might still be a tight race.

It's not a tight race. Oh, shit.
Shut the fuck up. Maybe if you let up off the gas, you can catch up.
Yeah, right, right, right. Oh, brother, here we go.
But anyway, yeah, you can definitely pick and choose who you fucking have bravado with. You can't.
You have to. Because here's the thing.
I'll give you what you said. You can a sucker about it.
You can't come to somebody weak and go to somebody's voice. You can't do that.
But he's known Stephen A. Smith 20 years.
Stephen A. Smith has the biggest platform in his sport.
So I think engaging Kevin Gates... That's not Kevin Gates.
It matters more. Yeah, that's not Kevin Gates.
Yeah, Kevin Gates is just somebody talking about him. And I don't think you got to dress everybody and talk about you.
And then, because once you... No disrespect to Kevin Gates, but once you respond to him, you basically saying

anybody that say something,

I have to respond to you.

And then they're going

to come out to Woodwork

because they want the attention.

You got an album coming out,

you got a project coming out,

you want to promote it.

Again, this ain't about Kevin Gates,

it's about LeBron saying,

I ain't.

But he just said that.

And on the basketball side of things,

I think when that Stephen A.

shit happened,

that the Lakers were pretty much

locked in as a three seed.

We in the playoffs, dog.

That's true.

We in the playoffs, dog.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm focusing.

I have to say that. I think when that Stephen A.
shit happened that the Lakers were pretty much locked in as a three seed.

We in the playoffs, dog.

That's true. We in the playoffs, dog.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He had nothing to do.

If that nigga wanted to fucking play Scullies

on the side of that game where he did that,

he could have did that.

Well, ain't nothing on the line here.

The Knicks was locked into the three seed

with weeks left.

And the niggas ain't,

it's a long season.

We don't care about this shit.

The playoff game,

nigga, we don't, I see you over there. I see you with your girl.
I see Brittany. Hey, but what do you want me to do? Right.
I'm going to look stupid doing that here with you. Yeah, for sure.
At least with the LeBron, the Stephen A shit, we understand. Like I said, he looked stupid.
Well, not him, not stupid. But I don't even, if I'm him, I don't respond to, me and my wife, we don't respond to you at all.

You haven't earned that response from me.

Right.

Agreed.

You talk about Gates.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Agreed.

And I'm not, again, it's nothing against Gates.

But there's people that have said much worse.

I don't got to respond to everything out there.

Yeah.

Stephen A., yeah, we have history here.

There's something here. And their peers.
I know him. They're both at the top of their field.
Exactly. That are related.
See, the thing about me, it's such a credit to your character when you don't respond to anything. It's so much so that I don't discredit you when you do.
Right? Like, I like Kevin Durant on social media.

I love this dude.

Giving it up just raw and shit that we ain't supposed to see or read i say the same thing about me when niggas get on social media and get funny and say shit that a publicist should stop you from saying i absolutely love it because that is that is uh instinctual for most humans. So the guy that don't never do it, when he do it,

it's like i'm not gonna fault you for right and see i look at it the other way the guy that has mastered the art of not doing it for you to get him to do it means it's almost like a weakness to me but masters fuck up they just fuck up less than the fear i understand i'm just telling you how I look at it. When the person, LeBron has been excellent at ignoring the bullshit.
He's been Ray Charles to the bullshit forever. So if you, what is it about you that got him to address you? Before we leave this LeBron thing, a friend of the show, Speedy, from over there at Complex, sat down with Stephen A.
Some of y'all have never met Speedy.

He's funny. He's funny.

He's like new

nigga, young nigga energy

funny. So

if you old and can't

catch him being funny,

it's funnier.

I'm going to play Stephen A with Speedy

with Speedy asking him about fighting LeBron.

It would have happened if you would have swung on LeBron.

I know a lot of people think that,

and I really didn't want to talk about it

because I don't want to talk about him,

but the bottom line is this.

People can say I get my ass kicked.

Fine, go ahead.

Did you see who I walked in with? did um he was 10 feet away so whatever's gonna happen would have to happen quick because that brother right there that is 330 plus bottom line should be short my body quick and fast not to mention a whole bunch of other people speedy's just laughing through this but Steven continues. I really have very little to be worried about.
Anybody can get got. And I'm fully aware of that.
But one of the other things on a very, very serious note, everywhere I go, ESPN knows. Listen to him.
Local police. Holy shit police Yeah, everything

He didn't keep that I'm always guarded look as I'm an investment

You got people out here that's got people protecting them and they bringing in a little paper I sent them out. I make a lot of money for them out.

So if people want to think that I'm just walking around and I don't have anybody around me, he's just my blood. That's like my brother right there.
Right. What you're saying is I'm always protected.
You like your odds. I like my odds.
Now, all I'm trying to say is that other people brought this up. And we're going to be real here.
We're going to stop We don't stop playing games with this particular subject. It's not about LeBron.
It's about anybody, right? If somebody walked up to you And hit you you gonna do nothing? No, you gotta defend yourself. That's all I'm trying to say.
I didn't say when. It's just funny hearing it, you know.
Yeah, I know that but I'm going like this yeah because I would have right

and the only reason I'm saying I'm not only reason no you haven't why I saw it you saw that bit that sorry ass video from a decade ago with two twine rotator cups but if people want to think that's how I throw hands it's okay so you got so you saying I'm not I'm not saying nothing all I ever said to anybody is that's how you think I'd watch that's how you think I'd Excuse me!

That's all I said.

You got him if you need I'm good

I don't have to fight at this particular moment in time. I think it's kind of pathetic people look at me at age 57

He's still going not you but I'm talking about people coming at me. This is content goal.
I love podcast

I'm not 37 or 27. I'm right 57 but now y'all want to step to me

right i'm saying i got it feel free do what you have to do all i know is this you know again and

i've truly meant that all my life i've been there he's still going here telling you that i'll kick

somebody's ass but i'm telling you i'm not gonna sit by and let somebody just put their hand. Maybe the one exception might have been Mike Tyson in his heyday.
Oh, man. What? Exception.
Holy shit, you still get it. Mike Tyson? Hell, yes.
In 2005, you signed a three-year deal at ESPN that paid you 1.3... Shout out to Speedy.
That's the interview after my whole heart, man. Yo, Speedy has to stop.
Choose wisely. You got it, though.
Holy shit. Sure.
Nah, but Steven had no idea what was going on no and just gave it to him yeah gave it to him oh my lord that was funny what is it about these microphones even a professional nah you wanna say the right thing yeah you wanna say the right thing we know how to get them especially in insecurity yeah if an insecure spot, they're going to keep talking. Stephen A is a friend of the show.
For sure. For sure.
I love Stephen A. Absolute legend.
Ain't nobody seen Max Kellerman in seven years. Yo, talk about ending a nigga, boy.
Yo. Yo.
Not enough. You can just end niggas and the world just go continue.
Nobody said, yo, what with Max? Nothing Finish. Yo we like Max Yeah I love Max.
He was great For years A decade plus Got that nigga buried Somewhere. Damn man Max Come up here nigga If you're getting this podcast through a dusty speaker buried hundreds of feet underground on an iPhone 4 check us out Bex oh lord alright alright alright what else is going on what else is going on out there I was thinking about falling off because I was thinking like people like Max Kellerman or whoever.
Don't you? That's not right. No, no.
Man, you just had him on an iPhone 4, dusty speaker. My man, I fuck with Max.
I love Max. Max and I shot a pilot together.
Fall Office. That's my guy.
Yo, you the most. You shot a pilot with Max? For CNN.
We supposed to have a show on CNN. You the most job looking for ass nigga.
Get down, man. Anyway.
But, I don't know how to deal with this. R.
Kelly is currently performing birthday parties from jail. Yeah.
Like, he's literally calling in to people's birthday parties and singing songs. Get to it, nigga.
That's right. And I don't know how to feel about this.
I mean, I... Does your birthday pass?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Definitely one of the happy people for my... No, it's like he...

I respect prisoners' rights

and prisoners have a right to earn money

as long as you're not earning money.

No, you don't.

I wrote a book with somebody on death row.

Like, I mean, like, we call off in a book.

Like, I'm totally down with prisoners' rights.

What percent he got?

Huh?

What percent he got?

You asked a lot of questions.

Jerking me.

A lot of NDAs.

Jerking you records.

Yo, that's his favorite book to write.

You jail niggas?

What?

Yo, you get 4%, dog.

Yeah.

Keep it pushing.

Frazier broke the deal.

It was good, man.

It worked out.

Oh, shit.

Yo.

All right, man.

I'm kidding.

I gave him 80% of it.

I gave him 80% of it.

80%.

No, you didn't.

I did.

No, you didn't.

I'm going. I gave him 80% of it.
I gave him 80% of it. 80%? Yeah.
No, you didn't. I did.
No, you didn't. Niggas get on these podcast boxes a lot.
80%? Just like Stephen A. Would funny anybody but me.
Yeah, that is a bold face. Like, WME wouldn't even let you get this nigga 80%.
Ask the publisher. No.
Ask Fox Sports. No.
What did we tell you? No.

We're not journalists.

Well, then you have to tell you.

Go ahead.

So I respect their rights, you know, as long as you're not making money off of your crime

to sign a SAM law.

Right.

But it's also R. Kelly, and I find him deplorable and disgusting.

And I hate that people want R. Kelly at their birthday party, and I hate that he can make

money singing at people's birthday parties. Who said he making money? Wait, hold making money? He got a cameo? Fuck all that shit, niggas R.
Kelly. Let him sing, man.
He's already under the jet. Let him sing.
Answer my question. Who said he's making money? You think he's doing that out of boredom? No, out of protection.
Stay off my ass. Ice, enough ice.
What? Niggas ain't fucking with Kells in there. They like Kells.
Niggas grew up listening to Kells in there. Kells know how to talk.
He's a Chicago nigga. He know how to move and move around gangsters.
We not gonna act like that. Let the man sing.
Niggas already fucking took his shit over YouTube. Niggas took his shit but Apple Music is still there but it's not at the top.
Let the nigga find a way to get something. This is interesting here, the two sides of this.
Y'all should have this debate. Flip is saying, yo, man, what more can you do to a guy? You already ended him.
You took him out of here. He's locked up.
He's under the ground. You took his fucking music royalties.
He's done already. So if all he has is the payphone and a fan that wants to hear him then why do you strip that? I hear that.
Again, legally I don't want to take it from him. I hate that people want that.
I'm more upset that people want R. Kelly at their party.
He's still R. Kelly though.
Yeah. And there's an older generation that don't give a fuck about that.
Who is us? Blacks. People who pee on kids? No, not that.
You want to go deep. No, not people who pee on kids.
At the end of the day, when do you receive enough punishment to you? What's your standards of, okay, enough is enough? You didn't have enough. I'm sorry, but...
You kick a dog while he... It seemed like you kick a nigga while he's down.
You don't give a fuck. You will heel in toe and then go sing at his funeral, nigga, of the free at his funeral nigga when we told you that when we told you Mel wanted to work with Kevin Spacey what was your position on that cause you were silent not being down with her I don't remember hearing that no of course you didn't but I think she shouldn't I mean I think she should I think she'd be wrong no it wasn't we said I purposely brought that up while Mark was saying was it after 5 o'clock you was over there now I don't think so either.
It was after five o'clock I didn't hear shit. And shout out to Mel, but I'm just saying you can never shit on somebody that want to work with greatness in spite of how sick the greatness was.
That's also a little more complicated. Why? Because Well, because Kevin Spacey wasn't convicted of crimes.
Right. Got it.
Number one. I understand i understand and number two being forced to work with creepy people in hollywood is kind of or music or whatever it's kind of something you have to do if she invited him to do a cameo at her birthday party i'd be like that's terrible and disgusting right not just mail anybody right i don't have an issue with again people in prison making money they should be they're exploited even if you did the crime, you're still being exploited on some level.
Again, I'm mad that we live in a society that is still celebrating R. Kelly.
I'm watching this woman on the video crying and trembling. You know what I mean? To me, that's weird.
You take an opposite stance of, like, I've heard you say, I don't know, quote me if I'm

wrong, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but

if something

to her, it looks like

if it didn't happen to me,

I'm fine. I know that I

still are Kelly. It didn't happen to me.
It didn't happen to any of my

family members. I still want to hear them.

Have you said that before

about something like? No.

So you take the stance of

if you've done something

and even if we had a good relationship, I'm going to

Thank you. have you said that before about something like no so if even so you take the stance of if you've done something

and even if we had

a good relationship

I'm gonna change

my whole look on you

if you believe in something

my mother followed

those same sentiments

when it comes to

voting for Trump

or doing shit

like she would go

into this deep of

deep thought of

not fucking with somebody

I think that's weird

she's not weird

I love her

but what I'm saying

I get what you're saying

there's more

hold on Joe

hold on nigga

I can correct myself

wait I wasn't trying

to correct you

Thank you. I'm adding on.
Hold me down. I'm sorry.
There's more bad people than good causes. Yeah.
Yes. I mean, there's more bad causes than good people is what I meant.
Right? That's also true. Like they say, if you're searching for something on the internet in the information age, you can find anything to support your argument.
Yes. It's the same thing with humans.
Yeah. There's people on the dark web right now doing all types of shit.
There's a huge market for shit that in our normal society is frown on. Look down on, frown on.
And they're doing it. So, I mean, there is somebody to serve.
In America, all you got to do is start a business. They didn't say what your business needed to be.
If you start it, somebody is going to, you're going to find a customer. That's what I'm trying to say.
And people have a right to find it. I just hate that they do it.
You hate it. But look at this.
You said that you don't believe there should be any jails. Somebody will look at you that listens to you and look up to you and be like, Mark, that is very irresponsible to put that out there as a man who was for peace.
You come off as you for peace. No, and it's contradictory because if it's no jail, then the nigga is free to go do birthday party.
And again, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to do it. You're mad to people.
I'm mad to people. We in society, you shouldn't want that to be.
You don't like the demand. Yeah.
See, that's why I need you here. Like, Demand.
You understand me. Yes, I give you that.
I understand. We can't change that, man.
No, wait, wait, wait, wait. But I can bitch about it.
I ain't going to let you do that. That's all I'm doing.
We understand what you're saying, too. Yeah, we do.
You are just being dismissive of our response. Why don't we even comprehend? I meant he agrees with me.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah I'm saying.
In America, the sliders, if you great, great, great, they'll look the other way at your nasty shit. And that's the history of this country.
What have I said for the longest? If they love you... He told him not to say nothing.
Shut up. Shut up.
If they love you, yo, Mark, if they love you,

you can do no wrong.

And that's what's fucked up to me.

R. Kelly is,

that's why I say he's still R. Kelly.

There are people,

yo,

if he had a tour today,

it would sell out.

Oh, of course it would be.

Now, there would be people like,

yo, why y'all going to that shit?

How dare you?

And it'd have to be 100 feet

from like a school.

Of course.

It's other motherfuckers

that's like,

I don't give a fuck about that. I'm going.
He's these love because you know what fucks me up about this in our in our culture if i had said to you yeah that somebody who ratted on 10 drug dealers uh was calling the birthday parties and i said fuck that i hate people having these snitches called birthday parties you would agree with me right no okay well maybe you wouldn people would. Yeah, I wouldn't.
Yes. Is the snitch in question one of the most talented songwriters in the history of mankind? Because that's the asterisk that we ignore.
And also, let me ask you a question, too. That's what I'm trying to say.
Real quick. Were you mad at the school for Keap and Bill Cosby to speak? Yes! But you still participated.
How did I participate? Meaning, were you on the same panels with him? No, no, no, no. Are you still communicating with him? I popped up at his panel.
But I didn't want him there. But that's also my job.
That's what I'm saying. No, that's not right.
What? You didn't get up and take a stance and leave the job. I'm not going to sit on this panel.
You told us that you were on the same stage with him. I went there to confront me at a break on his panel I went there and sat next to him to talk about resolving our beef so you didn't put the school on a band list I worked there yeah but there's some people hold on Mark there's some people that their principals they'll leave the job and I can't even work here if y'all are co-signing that.
My issue isn't people engaging him. My issue is people celebrating him.
He said that he repeated himself. You're right.
It's a celebration of him. Having him at your birthday party as the honored guest is different than having a conversation with him or criticizing him or even talking to him.
Shit, it's even different than just playing his music at the party. Mark, Mark, I'm not going to let you do that.
He wasn't an honored guest, though. Wait, wait, hold up, hold up.
That shit happens. Freeze, hold up, please.
They're going to put an aux cord in the least. That's the part I'm not going to let him do.
Yeah, no. The woman, the auntie that's booking R.
Kelly to sing happy birthday or do whatever over the phone from jail is not celebrating him more than the fucking academic institution

that is putting him

on the panel

to speak to an audience.

That's not true.

But I'm saying

the academic institution

is 100% wrong.

I think they're worse

than the auntie.

But you don't boycott them

because you work there.

I didn't boycott my job, no.

No, I didn't quit my job

so that the billionaire

who's being wrongfully promoted

at this event

can have a spotlight. I don't know.
So to you, there are, what's the word I'm looking for? To you, there are. So it shouldn't be a double standard when one side supports something, even if it's as minuscule as a birthday party, versus another side, a different side, having somebody be a speaker there.

It shouldn't be that double standard is what I'm saying.

All I'm saying is I don't think it's a double standard.

I'm not asking.

I wasn't asking the school to even boycott Bill Cosby.

I was just asking him not to celebrate him.

Similarly, I'm not asking the woman to boycott R. Kelly.

I'm just saying let's not make videos and distribute him surprising somebody at a birthday party because that just encourages more people to buy into the R. Kelly industrial complex.
And I don't want that shit. That was a lot.
So you were disappointed in the school having him but not disappointed enough to quit. Right.
That just wouldn't make sense. Yeah, this just wouldn't make sense.
And all boycotts, strategically as an activist and as an organizer, you don't always go to the end.

Everybody can't quit every job.

You don't boycott every company every time they do something you don't like.

I mean, that's just not strategic.

But there are caveats, you're saying, in certain situations. And it just seems like when it comes to the shit R.
Kelly's accused of, it's we find a way, not us in this room, but people who, just broadly in America, we find a way to justify or look the other way.

But there's other shit we don't. Do you put R.
Kelly and Bill on the same scale, in your opinion? Yeah. Yeah.
And I think they should be treated the same way. And frankly, if R.
Kelly were on tape with a bunch of little boys, I don't think people would be having them at their birthday party. Right? There's certain things we like, that's too far.
And it's somewhat arbitrary to me sometimes. That's all.
But look, if you want R. Kelly at your party, you know, you have a right to do it.
So you're saying because it's girls, they do treat it differently. Yeah, I want people not to want that.
That's all. I want better for us.
And we shouldn't say that so matter-of-factly because there might be boys out there. Yeah, I should say if he was known for that.
If that was his... Got it, got it, got it.
You put a lot of stock in people, dog. For sure.
He do. You put a lot of stock in people.
Honestly, I think if it was him with boys on tapes or whatever,

there's going to be a group that's just, that's R. Kelly.
He made these records that define the prime years of some folk life, and if they could get him to perform them records for them, they're going to want to hear them. Let me tell you something.
I fell out with somebody because of that, right? They had the same sentiments as you. And then she said,

Lovely said that she compares

R. Kelly,

Predophile,

Protectors,

and Trump supporters the same, right?

And that's what she was saying, right?

But I got mad at her.

I think that's too far.

That's a lie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I got mad at her

because we were saying that

we enjoy R. Kelly music.

A lot of us grew up to it and we're not judging the man. I mean, we're judging the man, but we're separating the two.
I believe I can fly. These certain songs are part of your graduation.
It's a part of your livelihood. That's true.
You grew up listening to it. Your family listened to it.
So it becomes a part of your life to some of us. Yeah.
Me too. And she was so passionate about, yo, it's over, that she resulted, in my opinion, to insulting us.

And I felt like, you don't got to do that.

You're my friend.

A lot of people do that.

Regardless, a lot of people just also disconnect celebrities

as human beings almost.

I'm not sure that they even look at him like that.

That's real.

Like I said, there's no right answers here.

I just was a little disappointed. And also, I didn't know.
How much, lastly, how much do you charge for that? How much would you pay for that? How much ramen costs? You got a honey bun. All right.
What? Get us out of there, man. We done.
Yeah, we done. What the fuck? Yo.
Just say hi to the nigga. Yo, are you crazy? It's the phone.
All right, man. God, I said get us out of there.
I told y'all to get us out of there. We should have been out of here.
Yeah. You're right.
Write it down. No, you ain't getting me.
Fuck your own. It's the most mature.
Write it down for any stretch. Yeah, man.
I had to give. When it's too mature for too long, I just got to do that.
I know. I just got to do that.
I know. I know.
All right, so what else? What else? What else is there? And listen, great show so far. Really great show.
Great show. Don't start this shit, man.
Just move it smoothly. This is the team.
Just say great show and let it go. Don't start this shit.
We know where you're going. Niggas, it's time that you're doing that, nigga.
I'm not going anywhere. Every team can't be the greatest, nigga.
I'm not going anywhere. Stop doing that.
Stop trying to soothe in the moment. Actually, that's some pussy shit that you do.
Because you do that putting it on me when you try to say that. No, you do that pussy shit, nigga.
I'm just saying it's a good show. I've been watching you do it all day, nigga.
I went home when I was sick. I watched you do it all day.
Even when I came in, oh, damn, I'm so happy. Man, shut your ass up, man.
Stop trying to soothe niggas and big niggas up to get your shit off. Nigga, we good.
We know where we at, nigga. Just keep the show going.
You always doing that, trying to big some shit up. Oh, my God.
Yo, you here? Without you today. Oh, my God, nigga.
Even though we had a good day, it's kilter today, but we missed. I don't need to hear none of that, nigga.
We did miss you, though. We did miss you.
I don't give a fuck about that. We did.
I came here to work. Yo, don't sit here.
I'm going to look at you. It's just something about you when you sit above.
You shine bright in the middle.

The black man just have a real problem

with compliments. Your compliments is backhanded.

The black man have a real problem.

Well, that's true, too. You backhanded King.
You know that, right?

No, I think that

people receive me wrong often.

Joe, it's not true. We watch you.

We watch you get backhanded compliments.

I'm just saying I think that people receive me wrong often,

and I do backhanded compliments.

But two things can be true. I think that's right.
I get that a lot. You get backhanded compliments as well? No, no, no.
People read me wrong. People think I'm being sarcastic or snarky or petty, and I'm just asking a sincere question.
But you do be sarcastic, snarky, and petty. That's true.
That's my point. A lot, though.
No, not a lot. Y'all give me too much credit.
Sometimes I'm just like a space cadet. When we think you're not being sarcastic, and we go back and they're like, oh, that nigga said some slick shit.
Wait, hold on. What? They catch you.
They hit you when you get home. They don't hit me.
Nigga, they catch you. I be like, wait, he said that? The people catch you.
You say that slickest shit. A lot of that is editing and misunderstanding.
Nah, you're talking a lot of Pox now. No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying, sometimes the context gets left out. They think I'm clowning and I'm not.
Please. I'm going to say this in closing.
Still, one of my favorite Mark clips is him telling us, all of us, and us sharing in the same shock that he tore his rotator cuff by carrying us. Yes.
And just looking at the room. Me too.
I was like. Oh, shit.
But that's not it. That's not it.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Oh, what? What are you talking to? It's crazy, though. That's like in slap boxing when a nigga connected like, oh.
Oh, you hit a real girl. Oh, he could play like that.
When he's slapping the shit out of him, he catches you. You know what? Please, I got to tell you.
I felt, this is full disclosure, I felt awful about that to the next show. No, please.
No, no. I loved that.
I loved it. I felt awful about it.
I really did. I felt really bad from the moment I said it.
I was like, ooh, that was too far. And then Ian called me the next morning.
This is how bad it was. I didn't sleep that night about it.
Oh, knock it off. See? See what I'm saying? Don't worry about it.
See what I'm saying? Too much. Don't worry about it, big dog.
No, no, no. I'm back, right? So we got it.
What Ian called you to say? Not about that. Yeah, I'm going to tell you that.
I'm going to tell you that. Yeah, no.
What did he... All right.
Ian thought it was funny. Ian called to tell me he thought it was funny.
Of course he did. Of course.
And I was like, no, Ian. I was like, that wasn't funny.
Actually, I didn't... I really didn't.
I'm not even being. I swear to you.
I was so awful.

I want to apologize to y'all about it.

How about that?

Can I ask you a question?

But I didn't want to make a thing about it.

No.

Who's the doc that he told you to go see?

Can I ask you a question?

Oh, shit.

Wait, it's the third one?

Nigga, I'll slap fire out your nigga from here, nigga.

We already had that one.

Get up, nigga.

Now that's old.

Third one, boy.

That's old. It's two.

It was always two.

It's just two. That's the second one, bro.
It's just two, man. She's in the shade room, nigga.
I'm going with this next. Shady.
Yo, wait. I want to address that, too, because I see what you're doing.
You know what I'm saying. Just for the record.
That's my girl. Because you like to feed the Clippers out there.
Mel is not suspended. I know she's not.
OK, just so we clear. I know she's not suspended.
Mel is chilling. Yes.
Mel is chilling. She's all right.
Child to Mel. She's good.
She is not suspended. She's going to curse me out when she watch the last night.
I didn't want to say that because I didn't want to stop y'all's AdSense check like Cook. They be making whole storylines.
I know. Nigga.
But I like that they do that so I don't ever want to step on them. Yeah.
And yo, just to the people. That's why I got to just ignore it.
They go way so far. I'm like, where did y'all come up with this shit from? Yeah, I be hating that shit.
I play around a lot. Yeah, but it could be the other way.
Shout out to man. It could be a tree dropping in the woods and nobody ever hears it.
That's true. Well, that's what Ian explained to me.
That's why I just, I don't, y'all got it. Salute.
I just salute everybody now. Yeah, having an audience is the blessing.
Now, who that audience is is out of your control. Exactly.
Once the door is open, then whoever comes to the show is at the show. Nigga, they start banging, they start banging.
Yeah, she's not suspended. No, no, but we can't crack jokes.
It's dead. She'll crack jokes.
It's dead, too. Nigga, if the door open, she'll walk right through it.
Hey, what is this? She been sending some shots. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Not to you.

Oh, she been sending me shots the last two weeks.

Yeah, nigga, because you're getting too comfortable, nigga.

You forgot to play.

When you come up here, nigga, when it come to me, shut the fuck up and hold me down.

Hold me down. You went from holding her down to after that basketball game.

There you go.

There you go.

Hey, who the hell in the house? Hey, he had to try to look neutral, right? Hey, oh my lord. I don't even really know it like that.
On gang. On gang.
You a hell nigga, boy. Shout out to Mel, man.
We miss you. I think you're watching Patreon.
I'm cursing me out. I'm waiting for a text.
Mel, we miss you-ish. We miss you-ish.
Hope both of y'all as well. And we're doing our best to hold it down in you guys' absence.
Yeah, and just let you know you're going to see behind the scenes. I asked about the new chairs.
He like, yo, some of you niggas may not be here at eight minutes. Nigga, talk to your calendars.
Yeah, because I figured we should get new couches cause these shit's just dirty you gonna get darker ones yeah maybe some leather or something yeah we could do that now that Mark has fucking really raised raised the amount of audience that we get per month so we gonna look at some new couches oh dang he said the same shit that'd be before look look at your man you did before look at your man he said you did before You did before You did before that one more Chill chill chill What do y'all want to talk about What else we got What else we got We're talking about no music Nothing music related I didn't see no music Nothing music There's no music Come on freeze That Wu album came out I didn't even know about it Until y'all said it. Yeah, that's y'all about it.
I downloaded it. I'm excited.
What's it called again? I'll tell you in one second. What's it called? Black something? Look at y'all.
Yeah. Black Samson.
The best. Black Samson.
Just punch me. I'm listening like three.
Y'all do it. Learned you right.
Quick. Real quick.
I mean mean it's another side but nothing for it not worth it not even worth it that's what I'm saying that's my point about you know what I mean exactly get on get out of there so y'all didn't hear it at all I didn't hear shit I'm only three tracks in the Benny the Butcher joint is dope it's a couple couple tracks on there. Method Man gets busy.
I mean, nobody raps better than Method Man on this. Meth's been in his bag.
Yeah. For the Wu members, he's been killing it for the last five years.
Yeah, it's fire. But I haven't gotten through the whole thing.
That's the only thing new that I've even been trying to listen to. It's been light.
It's been light. I'm not going to lie.
I got Rayvon's. I got it.
I didn't't get to listen to Ray Vaughn. I listened to a couple of records.
I can't wait to listen to that though. Yeah.
So the baby did the, I think it was the On the Radar Freestar. Freestyle, excuse me.
And he did the Squabble Up beat. Okay.
Absolutely smoked it. Absolutely smoked it.
And when he did it, I was like, damn, yo, I would love it if he did like a jacking for beats tape. Okay.
We just said, fuck it, I'm going over beats because when he gets in freestyle mode, it's next level. Surprisingly, today, well, yesterday at noon, he took it back to mixtape.
Dropped an exclusive mixtape with a live mixtape. Absolutely love it.
Wow. It's called, excuse me, get the name of this.
It is called Please Say the Baby. Okay.
And it's all freestyles. It's 15 tracks.
He did the Sky's the Limit beat, Tweaker, Nokia, Squabble Up, did some R&B joints. It's about time someone did this shit, man.
Yeah, like. That's fire.
Yeah. And because, again, mixtape.
So I can touch these beats that I don't have to clear, I have to do all of that. It's not on streaming.
Right. I did, excuse me, I did a quick scan through.
He absolutely was smoking these beats. So I'm excited.
I love When the Baby R the baby raps he's another one that fight through the fall fight through the adversity fight through the fall was way at the top he was and never gave up just kept putting out records kept working he successfully did that shit he did it yeah cause he was cleaning his act he was cleaning his act up in the process that's's part yeah stayed out of trouble and shit that last one more shit and then you know he just yeah so i just just salute to him um check it out if y'all get a chance it is a really really good and it's just a good feel for those of us who love the mixtape era for sure and i do is any music coming out on the horizon that we can expect i know you always get the surprises it could be a surprise hold album a surprise so But is there anything on the horizon other than Wayne, obviously? And I know we got to talk about him coming to MSG. Like, is there anything that y'all expecting? Thug's album, which is, I want to say next week or two.
It's coming up very soon. Okay.
He did drop a single today, Him and Future. Yep.
I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw the video. It reminded me of Otis.
Okay. I didn't see the video.
Lightning shit on fire, breaking shit? No, remember how in the Otis video, Hov and Ye, they stripped down to Maybach where they did the same thing with the Uris. Okay.
And they, you know, driving crazy with the girls in the car. So it reminded me of that.
The song has a beat flipped through the middle of it. Cool record.
Yeah, I didn't love it, but it wasn't bad. I didn't hate it.
Yeah, I didn't hate it. This is the second thug verse that I've heard since he's been home.
The first one being Dumb, Dumb and Dumber on Lil Baby's album. I'm pleased.
I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
So I am looking forward to the album. He's in full rollout mode of the album.
Did it feel like it was directed at Gunna a little bit? I think people are going to reach and make anything directed at Gunna. Okay.
He's talking very general. Yeah, okay.
There was a lot of rats. There was.
So I don't say this is at Gunna. You got to come out and let me know you're talking about Gunna.
I got to be friends with you or something like that was the line. That could go with a couple folk.
Yeah, okay. So I'm not, I know we're reaching to connect that dot and I think he knows we're reaching to connect that dot so he can be very vague and they're just going to run with it regardless.
Gotcha. Yeah, the record was cool.
I wasn't blown away, but I like it. Is there, this is the least surprising news, I think for me in R&B anyway, Ari Lennox, you know, leaving Dreamville.
It feels like it's worth mentioning. Obviously, there are rumors we talked about the possibility of it, but now that it's happening, what does that mean? Because you're definitely in Shea Butter Twitter too.
Oh, for sure. Yeah, I mean that way.
That's what I was saying. You did it for sure.
You did your numbers in Shea Butter Twitter. No comment, no comment.
What'd you think of that? What'd you think of that? Yeah, uh- Yeah. Which part? You did your numbers in that Shea Butter Twitter now.
I can't remember. It's been so long to pass.
That's true. But you were a prominent member.
I was all up in Shea Butter. I was the original founding member of Shea Butter Twitter.
I know. I know.
You found a lot. There was a lot of founding.
Black soap, Shea Butter. Those were the days.
Oh, my Lord. Remember, you ever come down to the Black Lily in Philly? Back when they used to do Five Spot? That's when everybody would be down there.
Like the height of Neo Soul. I think I came to one.
A lot of cool hats. I think I came to one.
A lot of knit going on. A lot of knit.
A lot of crochet. Yo.
There's a lot of other stuff going on. Well, that's what I was about to say.
That's the thing people didn't understand. People thought it was never politically conscious.
It was like culturally conscious. It was Freaknik.
It was Freaknik. Yes.
You're not wrong. Shit used to be wild.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was incensing Freaknik. Nigga.
But yeah, I'll let you do the Ari Lennox. But back to Ari Lennox, unrelated to the previous digression.
Of course. Of course.
Of course. Of course.
She's left Dreamville. She just put out a single, obviously, a couple weeks ago.
Seemed like she was moving on an independent path, but now it's done. What does that mean for Dreamville? What does that mean for her? I mean, it looks like everybody's happy what they split.
So she was clearly unhappy at the label. When you ask to get off the label you get your freedom

now it's on you

to do what you do

I'm not

I don't think

it means nothing

bad for her

like now

you got your control

you're away from

this label

she's still with

she's still with

Interscope though

is that Cole

yes

Cole's girlfriend too

is that

no

no no it's not his girl

oh

he's on the label

it's just his label

we got this

segment

is that the girl

that dissed you

I'm sorry. Is that No No no it's not his girl Oh It's his label We got this Our segment Is that the girl That dissed you Actually That's the one That's the one Accurate fact Yeah Which time He tricked me It was It was a trap Suck up Yes Yeah I know I know But I know.
I know. But there's no beef on my end.
There's no beef on my end. Oh, you ready to squash it too? Shout out to our Linux.
Give me your blessings and stuff? If you heard the earlier part of the pod, I'm going to squash it with anybody that has a beef with Joe Budden. I don't have a problem.
Talk to the camera, invite her up here, and you know, there you go. Uh, no.
But I don't have any beef with it. And we all talk about that too, about inviting people.
If you wanted to get into that topic, hopefully on Patreon. Yo, hopefully on Patreon.
Yo, we got to get into that. That's a good topic.
Yo, people that are... Yeah, we'll say it for later.
Yeah, we should. But I don't have a beef with Ari Lennox.
For Ari Lennox, it seems like she's doing well. I mean, she's got a Jermaine Dupree, Brian McCox record out now, so I don't think that her leaving Dreamville is the worst thing in the world for her.
And in terms of Dreamville because I see artists who have their labels and it seems like at some point when the artists leave is it a label anymore and I'm not saying that about Dreamville I don't know enough to know what their kind of path is but I'm wondering if the marquee artists leave and it just becomes like your label and it's just you that seems to happen a lot. I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not saying it's my Dreamville I'm'm just saying, is this a path that artists are going to be leaving? Well, if it's just you, then you still have your own label, right? You just signed to your label. It's not just you over there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a criticism.
She wasn't the marquee artist over there. No, no, no.
I know. I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm not being clear.
I'm asking two different questions. One, is this a path of artists leaving Dreamville? No.
I don't think so. It doesn't seem that way.
It doesn't seem that way. To be honest, Ari was always a weird fit for Dreamville.

Agreed.

Dreamville ain't known for the R&B songs.

Spinners.

Yeah, they think it's rapping over there.

Gotcha.

So I'm sure there was an internal struggle there.

How this info has been dispersed says that both sides wanted to kind of. Yeah.
She wanted to be... It sounds like she wanted to get away and they wanted to get her away.
This is one of those things where the truth is in the lie. When they put the lie on Front Street being both sides left happy, well, yeah, that's true.
But, yeah, that's the way it is.

It's in there.

Understood.

The details,

the devil is in the details.

Right, and it's about that relationship.

Because I've seen situations where

one person leaving is assigned

and within a year,

like two or three more artists go

and it starts to whittle down,

but y'all saying this ain't it.

Yeah, I don't see that happening there.

Good, good, good.

In that sense.

They got,

I would be stepping to Ari like the Jets stepped to fucking Aaron Rodgers. I'd be like, yo, do you want to make music? And if the answer is yes, then full steam ahead.
Because she's been, she's had disparaging remarks about wanting to continue a career. Not just her, but a few people in R&B have had just remarks about continuing their career under this current construct.
So, but if you want to make music, great. Good luck to her.
Right. Because she's very talented.
For sure. I love her voice.
She's super duper talented. She is.
She is. It just wasn't the right fit.
And sometimes, and that's okay. Yeah.
True. Like, we have a look.
We have a direction. We go over here.
And if you don't fit that or you want to do this, let's find a way to go. And, you know, with all due respect to anyone that she's worked with previously, I love her and Jasmine Sullivan's collaborations, but if you're an R&B songstress and you're not liking how things are going and then you can get with Brian Michael Cox for unlimited hours, you'll probably want to leave your previous situation.
Oh, yeah. That's real.
And if you're running a rap label and you're one of the top-tier rap artists in the world and there's someone that's just giving you a little bit of a, a little bit of a, you know. Yeah.
You're probably happy to... Everybody looks like they won.
Everybody wins. That's it.
Everybody wins. So it's a salute to all of them.
Indeed. Wishing them all the best.
Nice. And I spoke to niggas back when that J.
Cole apology popped out. Some people were worried about how that may reflect on them.
I'm not saying Ari is one of them. But if I'm on the label and the label head is going through something like that, yeah, I'm not.
I reserve the right to think about it. Sure.
That's all. Yo, this crew, when it comes to breaking down these topics, anyway, man, y'all are killing.
Y'all are killing. I feel so much more informed than I did before we sat here.
What else do I need to be informed about? Also, in music announcements, Wayne announced that he is doing an MSG show. You niggas are waning me to death before I hear enough songs.
I ain't gonna lie to you. This is the podcast.
I like this, though. I like this, personally.
I know Wayne's history with New York City. Wayne, he was like he was never coming back to New York.
Wayne hates New York. I know he did an Apollo show.
He hates New York. But he hates New York.
Drake hates New York. Young Money is responsible for New York losing some of its cachet last decade in terms of the artist wanting to stop by.
I'll take. I don't think it's I'll take at all.
They both are on record saying it. Drake is on record saying yo regardless of what y'all think as an artist you do not need to go to New York to sell a record.
And he was right. He's on record saying that.

Lil Wayne is on record saying,

yo, fuck New York.

Them niggas locked me up

with a gun on some bullshit

while I was the biggest rapper

in the world.

I hate New York.

They both said that.

Him and Birdman literally said,

we're never going back to New York.

That's true.

That's crazy.

But glad it's changed.

Yeah, it's changed.

And again,

it's Madison Square Garden.

Yeah.

No disrespect.

Wayne ain't go to Barclay. That's what me and Fifth was at that night.
and Fifth was up in there. You was there.
Let's put it in order. Me and Fifth was in there chilling watching the game.
Fat Joe, too. And Fat Joe.
And Fat Joe was there tonight. Fifth and Fat Joe.
All the stars. I didn't see your name on the screen when they were showing the celebrities.
I saw you in the back track. All the stars.
All the stars was out. You know, sometimes the playoff games separate from the NBA openers where you might see a Mark and Ish together.

Oh, shit.

You might see a Mark and Ish take the drive.

Well, they could see us because we were in the front row.

Oh, shit.

Well, I mean behind the scorer's table.

Nah, nah, nah.

Behind the scorer's table.

Next to the basket.

Those seats come down a couple of dollars.

You was behind Carrot Top.

You was sitting behind the basket. Oh, shit.
God damn. Nigga, I was next to Thibodeau.
Nigga, watch, nah. Behind the scoring table.
Next to the basket. Those seats come down a couple of dollars.
You was behind Carrot Top.

You was sitting behind. Oh, shit.

Goddamn.

Nigga, I was next to Thibodeau.

Nigga, watch your mouth.

Carrot Top.

Goddamn.

Yo, Carrot Top.

That guy?

Yeah, that guy.

No way.

What was he talking about?

I'm trying to play my man, y'all.

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Listen Thank you. Jones and your phone and on DSPs right now, man.
I only got to hear that. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

Here it goes.

Here it goes.

Yes. On site On site You're buying Tell me not to leave Tell me what you mean Hey, what else? Anyway, brand new Coco Jones in your phone and on DSPs right this second.
This record is called On Sight. This is not an ad.
RCA hasn't given me a dime ever. We should change that, RCA.
Anyway. Coco Jones shit, I've only heard it one time, but it's heat on there.
That shit's a new project. It's absolutely, yes.
I thought we were sleepers. No.
I thought we were sleepers. I thought it was a song.
Y'all dying to go home. No.
We got mad more topics to get to. No, we're not.
We got way more topics to get to, y'all. Yo, you butt, see, you doing something.
Yo, hey, don't touch that down. Nigga said, I thought we was at sleep.
We all went to our phone like, what? Yeah. My sleep, like, oh, shit.
No, Coco Jones has a new album and it's out now and I was just playing a joint off it because I fuck with her. No, no, no.
I fuck with her, too. Even though my sleeper will probably come from that same album.
Destin Conrad album in your phone as well. I only heard half of it.
It sounds like heat. That's just my R&B update for you guys.
Coco Jones, Destin Conrad this weekend. I think Salt dropped something too.
I listened to Salt. Really? Yeah.
Let me double check to make sure that wasn't some old shit that I just stumbled upon. Hey.
It was, what were you, you know what I mean? This nigga's crazy. Bobby.
Nigga, we was at Sleevers. You thought you was about to be outside about 5 p.m.
I was texting right now. I was texting Shaggy.
I'm like, yeah, this was new, April 19th. Texting Shaggy again.
Fuck with you too. Shout out to Shaggy.
I love Shaggy. Yeah.
I saw you doing his lyrics on the internet. It said your name and shit.
The lady said your name. I'm like yo.
I even said it in the video. It was about to drop today.
I'm not Flip from that. I'm Queens Flip.
Told him directly. Well.
Well now they know you. You was Flip from that book.
Yo he's one of Joe Bud's co-hosts. Nah I'm Queens Flip.
He know He know me, miss. He know me.
They're telling you who this man is.

Don't compare me.

Because he's going to use it.

But you are a Joe Bud's co-host.

From the Joe Bud's podcast.

No, I'm not.

But that's how they've heard of you.

And I'm on the Joe Bud's podcast.

Not from.

Did you not mention JVP when you tried to get into that show last week?

No.

No.

Oh, that's why he was outside.

Maybe you should have mentioned it.

It's an ego thing with him and I.

It's a power thing.

That's why you stayed outside.

That's why he was outside.

Right.

He fucked with me. Who's winning? That's why he was boggling from the parking lot.
Who's winning? Oh, shit. Ego.
You're a kicker, man. He did a slick shit again.
Hold on. Your man said you was boggling in the parking lot.
No, no, no. I wasn't boggling in the parking lot, but I was in the parking lot, though.
I think I'm at Barclays Saturday. Who's winning the ego battle? I'm winning now.
He was winning. He was destroying me, nigga.
Sonic. But I'm back.
I'm back. I'm back.
He was bodying me, nigga. All right, just so you know, I am not competing with you.
You started it. You told me you are.
You started it. Yo, this power struggle ego battle, I'm going to come out.
You told me this. I didn't even think that you set the premise well that's cause you work here so the level of resistance you were offering was unacceptable to me and I have to find alternative ways to teach that to you I still ain't learn I know I still ain't learn I know cause you don't like that he hated that he ain't like that he don't like that.
He ain't like that. He don't like that shit at all.
He don't give a fuck. Flip no fuck with that.
Rich is rambunctious. Rebellious.
No, no. All the R words if you spell rambunctious with an R.
I don't know how you spell shit. All the R words.
Don't point at him, nigga, like what, R-E? Watch your fucking mouth. That's all right.
That was crazy. Watch yourself, nigga.
I know there's some slick, little undertone to your little points. All? He said R word, I point.
I wasn't thinking about you. What's the other R word? Name some more.
I said rambunctious and rebellious. I think you said all the R words.
All the R words. What's another one? I don't know.
That was the end of mine. All right, all right.
I'm missing whatever joke y'all was saying. They thought you were calling him a tard.
No. No, no, no, no, no.
That's what you were saying. I wasn't even thinking about that.
I wouldn't do that. I haven't thought that since.
that I don't You haven't thought that Since when? Since earlier in the show When you said you listened To the book of Malcolm X After I gave it to you No I listened to the audio book You knew I listened to it Cause I told you That's the only time I thought maybe Cause I had you A physical book You had me Huh? You followed Like you Had it reading to you While you Scared me That's what I was talking With his finger on the board And you know what's so funny About y'all niggas What finger on the word. That's right now.
And you know what's so funny about y'all niggas? What? You're not a nigga. But maybe you are.
Listen, you know what's so funny about y'all? You should be ashamed of yourself, Doc. I am.
You should be ashamed of trying to highlight somebody who you make. And you be calling me the R word.
I didn't call you. You brought the R word.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Mark uses his wisdom for evil.
Yeah, you should be ashamed of yourself. You should be wanting to teach.
I do. Wanting to come together help That's why I gave you the book You don't inspire me nigga No You don't inspire me That's good You insult You insult like a nigga That got picked on his whole life No And I don't think that's the case I'm not bro I wasn't even thinking about you being You brought that up No your man did But he didn't think about you being You I thought you were until you said the more you say it, the more we have to end it.

I'm sorry.

Nobody thought that you were in those things.

You can't do that

because I thought

the same thing flipped though.

He said all the R words.

Hey, yo, ma,

you know what's so crazy?

Yo, ma.

I have such deep admiration

for you.

That's the funny part.

Yo, listen at the table, man.

I got to teach you

a couple of things, yo.

Sure.

I can teach you, bro.

I know you can't.

Don't DM Shanish.

Oh.

You do shit for uh-uh.

Come on, flip, man. Watch how you talk to me.
I wasn't even thinking about it. I like you too, bro.
I wouldn't even do my cladding, man. But why is it bad if somebody knows you as a co-host from the Joe Button podcast? Because I'm still Queensflip.
I walked in the building as Queensflip. I was just surprised.
After Miss Pat up there at Sirius, when she introduced me, it's on video. I looked at her like, this is one of Joe Button's co-hosts it's Flip not even Queensfield but that's how they know you no that's a good thing I didn't get in a building like that we're not saying that but we're saying that's how a lot of people a lot of people don't know hey watch your fucking mouth Flip listen listen and I'm not trying to shoot watch your mouth listen to what I'm I'm saying, though.
Let's say your reach was here. And then, see, I didn't do that.
And then getting on this platform took your reach here. So there's a gap of people that might only know you from the Joe Button podcast.
Hey, yo, let me share something to you. Do you agree with that? No.
Okay. If my reach is here and Joe brought me up here, cool.
I understand that. Right? You're welcome.
Thank you. But, nigga, here didn't stop.
All here did was grow, nigga, while I'm here, nigga. I came with my own fucking enterprise, nigga.
Watch your fucking mouth. Everybody know that, though.
Nah, nah, nah. Fuck you, nigga.
You know who you are, nigga. You know who you are.
You interview Alpo. Look what he playing, bro.
You said what? You interviewed Alpo, yo. That's what you're talking about.
Bro, you know who you are. This isn't a joke, so don't take it the wrong way.
You like Johnny Gil. Johnny Gil was a star on his own.
Then he joined New Edition. He don't be like, I'm not Johnny Gil from New Edition.
And now he made other shit after New Edition, and he's a bigger star. But he's still New Edition.
And there was the other Johnny Gil rumors. Yep.
And I knew that's my... See? I got a big ego.
Hey. You my man.
Yes. I was just shocked she did that because there's something between him and I.
I know. I know.
And you know her doing that is going to lead to him feeling that. Exactly.
That's all. I know.
When she introduced me, I'm like, it's the first time it happened in a while. It's all good, though.
Shout out to JVP, man. And shout out to you.
Shout out to you, man. Thank you.
All right, what else we got? What else we got? Yeah, that's all I had in music was Coco Jones and Destin Conrad. If you're a R&B lover, please check out those albums.
Really good projects. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? I ain't have nothing written down outside of Shannon.
Let me just make sure here. Oh, yeah.
Ain't a thing written down here. Mark, you wrote Kalani up there.
Yeah. Shout out to my sister Kalani.
Shout out to her. I need to.
I didn't know y'all were related. What's the whole thing? How are y'all related? That's the whole thing.
I need to actually find out what happened. But she had a speech at Cornell University.
Yeah. And it was canceled.
No shocker there. I've been canceled from a million speeches, so I understand.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her advocacy, her political advocacy, particularly for Palestine, got her canceled.
I don't think anybody should be surprised at that. You should be surprised at this point if they allow you to still come.
You're right. You know what I mean? But there is a bigger trend that we should pay attention to right now.
People are getting canceled. Say it right here.
What did you say? Say it right here. People are getting, free speech is under attack.
And at some point, I'm ignoring them. People, free speech is under attack.
And in this Trump era, whether it's universities, whether it's jobs, they're making it so that your political beliefs are stopping you from getting a job, keeping a job, earning money as a contractor or as a fully hired employee. It's just a dangerous moment.
We got to fight to stop that from happening. All right.
So I think there's a big misconception on free speech. Free speech don't mean you could say whatever the fuck you want and just move on like nothing happened.
And I think a lot of people, that's what they believe free speech is. Like even when they say First Amendment, free speech, the First Amendment don't mean say whatever the fuck you want.
It just means you're free from being locked up for your belief. But people can make choices.
Right. But choices come with consequences.
And that's the part that a lot of people forget when they go out here and say these things. This is money.
This is corporation involved. This is business.
So if you go somewhere

and say the wrong thing on a

platform or whatever,

it can affect you down the line.

Damn, did I just school the doctor?

I'm about to say, what type of muffin?

Oh, no.

It's my guy.

Let's get that fresh aroma.

You might want to wait a minute.

What kind of muffins I got?

I don't have any muffins.

Here's my recipe. Nasty muffins.
Allow me to retort. The issue isn't consequences for free speech.
I agree with you. If somebody stands up and says, I hate all black people, I don't think they should have to give a speech at Howard.
I think we can cancel them and say, you're not in line with our values. I'm OK with that.
I think it's dangerous to do that with Kalani, who's actually speaking against genocide. So I would just first I would just put that out there.
Right. She's speaking out against the human rights crisis.
But my issue is the places she's being disinvited from are places that say we want free speech. So if you say I don't want somebody who has this belief at your company, at your business or whatever, cool.
If you say, I don't want to buy this person's album, cool, right? That's the stuff you're talking about. We're in agreement on that.
Where we disagree or where I think it's not applicable is a university is supposed to have everybody. It's supposed to have every point of view.
And that's what we disagree. No, no, no.
I'm saying, a university has a board. They got people they answer to.
They have to look at. No, no, no.
Especially Ivy League school. Yeah, I'm not being naive.
I'm saying they purport themselves to be doing that while doing the opposite. Of course.
And I'm saying that's why people are outraged. So it's not that people are trying to hide from the consequences of free speech.
I think that's what happens when people get mad that people don't buy their albums or buy the records that they get fired from. Like when I got fired from Fox News, I wasn't mad, right? I didn't like it.
But I understood that my values were different than theirs, and my free speech stops me from going to jail, but I'm not

entitled to a job at Fox News.

I am entitled to speak at a university.

That's not true.

You're not entitled to speak at a university.

That's not true.

If your message can cause a problem or too much

distraction or too much noise for said

university, they have the right to say, hey, yo, we don't want

that.

I think we're talking past each other for a second. They have a right to disinvite kehlani sure yes what i said was there's a bigger issue around free speech which are universities are shutting down free speech not allowing uh a variety of ideas to be articulated they're firing faculty for example for for speaking on certain issues they're they're doxing students or columbia university recently said that students.
Columbia University recently said that they're going to be taking away degrees from people for having certain free speech. That's the issue for me.
Now, with Kalani, I think it's fucked up that they're not letting Kalani speak. But it's actually not okay to police the discourse.
You can't say, well, I'm only going to have people who are pro-Second Amendment and not have people who are anti-Second Amendment. And I'm going to invite all invite all the pro gun speakers and not if i'm staying as university saying we want we want all the ideas mark but that is where that is where ice and i fundamentally disagree

with what you're saying we're saying in this country what you are can 100 be different than

what you say you are and most businesses here anyway operate like that what do you say to that

Thank you. can 100% be different than what you say you are.
And most businesses here, anyway, operate like that. What do you say to that? That universities aren't businesses.
Wait, what? Yeah, I think that's where I disconnect. Structurally, they're non-profits.
Structurally, they're designed and organized to not do that. That's the reason they have a tenure system.
That's the reason why I have all these things is to make sure that people's speech is protected.

And so I'm saying if this were a company, I wouldn't be mad.

I'm of the belief that colleges are businesses.

In reality, yes. They are in reality.

In reality.

I'm speaking in reality terms.

I'm not theoretically.

Right.

And I'm criticizing them for not living up to the values that they say they're doing.

That's the criticism.

That's my point.

You can have at it with that. And in the age of Trump, they're making it so much worse that they're saying- More obvious.
That's just more obvious, more illegal. They're banning students.
For example, they're saying Trump is telling universities, if you don't play ball, we're not going to allow you to have any more foreign students. We're not going to let you have any more international students, which is a way of draining their money for not having a certain position.
Governments are saying, for example, on the Palestine issue in particular, they're saying if you criticize Israel, you can't get funding from us or you can't get a grant from us. These are illegal acts.
Those things are actually illegal because it becomes discriminatory. I'm with you there.
I'm with you there. So for me, it's not about Kehlani.
That's a small issue. I'm saying that free speech is literally under attack in places where it's supposed to be the safest.
In a way that it's never been before. Right.
Okay. Exactly.
I can agree with that. And I can agree with that.
Yeah. So put the fucking muffin mix away.
Oh shit. But you have a different...
He didn't like that shit. Nah, I don't care.
I don't care. You have a different...
You have different views on college than I do though. Yeah.
So I see it. Right.
I see it. Because those are the places where I'm supposed to be the safest.
You have faith in them. I have no faith in them.
I have no faith in them. But it's more that I work at one.
And do you all understand tenure at a university? I don't. So the whole point of tenure is, so a tenure is, I'm a tenure professor.
So I really can't be fired. After a certain number of years at a university, you go through a process and you get tenured.
Locked in. Yeah, forever.
How many years is that? It's usually seven. It depends, but seven is general.
And you have to do some things to get it. If you get approved for tenure, you're tenured forever.
So you still have to get approved. It's not, I could do the time and be tenured.
No, no, no, no. You have to be voted.
And that's why they make it almost like a haze. You have to publish a lot of work, or you have to have a certain teaching record.
You have to prove that you're worthy. And this is amongst all colleges? Just about, with very few exceptions.

But one of the things, so let me say that.

The logic behind tenure initially

was to protect faculty from unpopular ideas.

The idea was is that if I'm at a university

and I want to speak out against the logic of the day,

if I want to write a controversial book

or I want to make a scientific claim that's unpopular.

Flat earth. I said unpopular, not stupid but but whatever but whatever it is i can't be fired so i tenure protects me from that so i have a safe place from which to operate because in the 50s for example you know during the red baiting and all the communist stuff they were going to universities looking for the commies and they were trying to literally fire faculty who had different politics.
Is this true no matter how outrageous? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, that's the point. It could be something that we think is disgusting.
People wrote, like in the 80s, the bell curve, 90s, the bell curve came out, which is based in black people aren't very smart, scientifically, right? But their tenure. But the idea is- There's nothing you can do to them.
No. But the idea, so that's what the universities are designed to protect these things.
That's my point. But what's happening now in this era they're tenured.
But the idea is... There's nothing you can do to them.
No. Got it.
But the idea... So that's what the universities are designed to protect these things.
That's my point. But what's happening now in this area is they're also trying to get rid of tenure.
They're trying to hire more people who are untenurable, the part-time professors, the graduate students, so that people can be... Oh, they found a workaround.
They're finding a workaround so that they can police people's speech. So they're still not removing tenure.
They're just getting people that are not eligible for it. Right.
But also a woman, Mara Finkelstein, last year was tenured and got fired for tweets she made at Muhlenberg College in Pennsylvania. Did she have any fight? Like any type of recourse for that? They went back and forth.
She actually bumped into her at the Celebrity Muslim event and she said that they settled something or that she decided to resign so it wouldn't look like she got fired. But this is what I'm saying.
It's just a crazy moment right now. You just said Trump is threatening to take away some of the funding.
Yeah. So then what position are you in? Now, you're not going to get any international students.
He's basically putting their back against the wall. And they're capitulating.
And they got to play ball. So they have to comply.
Harvard told them to fuck off, but Harvard has more money than God. And Columbia...
They didn't like that while Harvard did that. Yeah.
But what if they do that to Morehouse? What if they do that to Hampton or Dell State? What if they do that to... I see what you're saying.
You see what I'm saying? Harvard's endowment is in the tens of billions. That's how much money they have reserved.
Morehouse might have... I don't know what Morehouse is, but there are a lot of HBCUs That have 10 million 15 million

They can't afford

To not get federal funds

They can't afford

To take the stance

Exactly

And this has never happened

In the history of American

Education before

Shit speaking of Trump

You see his website

Is selling Trump 2028 shirts now

Yo that's crazy

I thought that was a joke

I was like

How long did it take

For him to arrive

What

Was it like 24 hour shipping

Yo yo you

I don't know

But that

Oh he ain't going nowhere

Without a fight

Thank you. Was it like 24-hour shipping? Yo, yo, you, I don't know.
But that. Oh, he ain't going nowhere without a fight.
That is crazy, bro. It is crazy.
Harvard's endowment is $53.2 billion. Sheesh.
What? Yeah, they got different money. That's what I'm saying.
And they control the world. They can take the fight.
Yep. Yeah, that's it.
Or the stance. Yep.
Got it. Still ain't baked no muffins, nigga.

Fuck out of here.

Oh, I didn't think I baked muffins.

I would say my muffins didn't.

I'm just saying.

That shit went flat.

He just turned the oven off.

That's what I said.

I said put the oven mix away.

That's cool.

I said I didn't get mine. No, no, his muffins was in the oven, nigga.

You told me I put the mix away.

It was already mixed, nigga.

Okay.

What you talking about?

Okay.

You came to the fight.

Yeah, just shut the oven off.

I'm here for it.

I love it.

I love it. Okay, we did music.
We did Kevin Gates. We prayed for the Arenas family.
We did Lil Wayne. Quest Love.
Sad news. We got to cue it up.
Quest Love. Cue it up.
No. No.
That's my man. It hurts.
Cue it up. Pause.
That are so late I said pause We never gonna grow up Never We shouldn't It's no fun It really is no fun Growing up Nah Damn Alright this hurts This one hurts I don't like this one This one hurts That's my's my man. I'm slowing it down.
There we go. Hey, make it quick.
Pause. Quest Love ended this podcast.
It appears that way. Quest Love Supreme.
They have a finale. Quest Love Supreme, one of my favorite podcasts.
Same. Mostly interviews with prominent musicians, artists, and things of that nature have announced series finales.
They may just be reshaping it in some format. I don't know the full details.
Here's what I know. The numbers were good.
It's popular. This isn't a situation where it failed or collapsed.
I think they just want, like you said. We need 100 million.
Right. You.
Yeah, be careful. Yeah, be careful.
99 million. Might be 100 available soon, but, look at that, look at that.
Oh my God, yo. I can't help myself.
I'm sorry, bro. You gotta stop that shit, bro.
Just DM the nigga to be cool with him. Stop.
I'm a terrible person. I'm sorry.
Come on. But shout out to Questlove, to Laid, to Fonte, the whole crew, they're all my people's butt.
Mark Briggum was reporting. If I'm on the volume, I'm a terrible person.
I'm sorry. That's your man.
Come on. But shout out to Questlove, to Laid, to Fante, the whole crew.

They're all my people's butt.

Steve, if I'm on the volume, that's fucked up that that happened to Shannon.

However.

Well, why DM me? I was thinking about a little raise anyway.

Time to have a conversation now, though.

100 mil just got freed up, or so I think.

Time to have a convo.

Oh, nigga. You can give me one of them.
Right. Right.
Oh, man. What will I do if fucking, it goes ****? All right.
I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Oh, boy. I got ****.
Oh, shit, don't say that.

I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.

All right, move along, move along, move along.

I'm sad to see Questlove Supreme.

Yeah, me too.

One of my faves, man.

Move on.

It's really one of the best music nerd podcasts that have ever existed.

Yes.

Questlove, we love you, man.

For sure.

Whew.

Y'all so dumb, man. But it's really me's all you it's all you and he can't help himself that's what makes it bad when I told y'all when I'm 46 47 no you're not Joe I'm telling you no you're not nah for real because my girl was already having a talk like when are you going to change you're 45 I'm going to be living like this at some point I do have to change You're right baby Do y'all believe in unconditional love? Yeah from like a baby Yes A pet Love comes with conditions man Yeah I believe in unconditional love From? From God? No Oh no, from god no no no no not from god the most conditional yeah right they got rules um you love nobody but me right i'm thinking more like children got it that's about the only place where i feel parents are terrible at i the children love us unconditionally.
I think parents love their children quite conditionally. I think that's some human construct shit.
Them kids don't know us, hear us, give a fuck about us. That's true.
I don't mean from birth, but I mean like you can develop, I say you can develop that kind of relationship. I agree.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you believe in having a favorite kid? Huh? Had Poe's acting up, right? I think we had a little interference from something.
That was me and my girl first fight. To the parents here, to the parents here, do y'all believe in favorite kids? No.
That was me and my girl first fight. Why? I told her she has a favorite kid.
Everybody has a favorite kid. She ain't like that shit.
That shouldn't be a fight. She didn't like that shit.
She don't like it like that. She don't like it now.
She don't like it now. It is true, though.
Which one's your favorite? Even if you're not ready to admit that, it is true. One is just the most behaved.
No, that's different. I'm not talking about the best behaved.
I'm talking about the kid that you like better than the other ones. No.
My mom's way to answer that question, because she has two boys, me and my older brother, was always, yes, I have a favorite. You're my favorite for six months.
He's my favorite for six months. That's a good answer.
That's a good one. That's a nice, safe way to play that.
Yeah. My parents have favorites.
That's kind of what she said. You got a favorite for sure.
I don't got a favorite. Yes, you do.
You do. You're the one that keep them off you.
No, that's not my favorite. That's your favorite.
I don't got, no. The reason you can walk around.
So you don't believe that? No. No.
I'm not sure about that. Me being around.
You have a favorite. Me being around JR a lot more because we work together.
That's not my favorite, no. I didn't say that even said J.R.
I did. I love all my children equally.
We didn't say nothing about love. Everybody loves their kids equally.
We're not talking about love. I don't have a favorite child.
Me, personally. I was the favorite child.
I've experienced when people think that you're the favorite or think that I'm the favorite or think that my brother was the favorite. Like I experienced that in real time and what that does to the family.
And that, you know, just the arguments and the confusion of what it does. Nigga, I always vowed that when I have my own children, I'll never do that.
So I't have any favorites. Okay.
There's some kids, like she said, I do agree.

Some kids behave more than others.

Some kids you may reward for their behavior more than others because you have to show the other child, like, yo, this is what you get when you act or you walk this path.

But that don't mean that you're my favorite because you behave.

You may just give me less of a headache, but there's something that you may do that I love just as much as what you may do.

Do you like hanging out with one more than the other?

No.

No, I don't like hanging out more.

No, I love hanging out with all my children equally.

That's dope.

Yeah.

Do you have a favorite child, Joe?

Watch yourself.

One of them niggas like... Pick the one that watches the show.

Yeah, but no alright

say a little bit more

like

Trey is my favorite

child

because

I was blessed enough

to have a child

when I was 20 years old

so

I do think it's fly

for me to be 44

and my son to be

turning

25

like we have a different

connection

and

Thank you. so I do think it's fly for me to be 44 and my son to be turning 25.
Like we have a different connection and it's different than me and Lex. So yeah, he's my favorite until I'm around Lex, who I'm around at an age that I didn't see my oldest son in.
So I'm like in a warped. They're both my favorites because I missed it.
I missed these times. I'm getting different experiences.
That's how I am. That's how I am.
I have three very different parents' situations. So when I'm with Trey, he's my favorite.
And when I'm with Lex, he's my favorite. Yeah.
And when I'm with both of them, it's not about how I feel about either. It's important that y'all love on each other and do all that brother, brother, brother shit.
Fire. That's a good guy.
Good guy. That's a good one.
Yeah. Clean it up.
You got out of there. Yeah.
Yeah, you got out of there. You got to.
Nigga made another diss record about you. He's the only clip ready.
The only clip. No, that's my man.
He's going to stop dissing me. No, he's not.
He haven't dissed you in a little. He's going to stop dissing me.
Now that I've been to the live show and seen how he's introduced. Yeah, enough of those.
Don't tell me they do the... You get on stage or whatever? All right, coming to the stage.
No, no, that's him, actually. He be up there.
Yo, you familiar with the name, but not the face. Like, yo, dawg, all right.
If you're doing that... A lot of cachet on that name.
It ain't going to be too much. Can't diss me now.
Not too much on button. If you're leading with this.
Not too much on button at all, buddy. And this summer, I'm going to bring him down to the family reunion for the first time.
What? Around the buttons. Around the button buttons.
That's going to be fun. So, yeah, he's going to really see what being a button means.
I'm going to bring him down to our gravesite, to the button gravesite. Let him see all the buttons from the 1700s, from 1690 or some shit.
Show you. Yeah, the history of this.
The history of this, so you can know who you are from when I'm not here anymore. That's a good one.
So you can have that family pride that I have. That's a good one.
I don't have anything else, but I didn't have anything on my list to start. He just had Shannon Sharp.

Yeah, that's all I had.

So it's totally up to y'all.

Where we out of time?

3.02.

Oh!

I'm like saying that.

Sleeper, sleeper.

Where'd you get those sleepers?

We knew that, though.

Huh?

We knew that.

No, y'all was too thirsty.

We knew we was going.

Y'all was too thirsty.

Y'all know y'all was too thirsty.

Who was going to play a song that said, yo, new music? Right, New music, right. That's how you get your new sleeper.
Nah, nah, fuck y'all. New Coco Jones.
No, no. Oh, shit.
We was like, oh, shit, okay, we out. Say less.
No, not at all. Not at all.
Thirsty, thirsty for the sleepers. I am going with Coco Jones.
And this record is right after it's track four. I played track three earlier.
This is track four. A, E, O, M, G is right after track 4 I played track 3 earlier this is track 4 A E O

M G right after

that is Cardiac's track

Thank For You track 5 the sequencing on

this is nuts this is Coco Jones

A E O M G

yeah I'm playing all the

songs you can fuck to, man Send me on the counter Neighbors need a preview You can call me on me I'm a jeweler at you Bet you wanna make me your wife Bet you gotta be avertime Rush about the shower But it's getting filthy Using all my levels, legs up on the ceiling Talking about it, oh my god It, oh my It's never too much, never too much Never too much, never too much Baby, don't take it easy, honey No, I'm also keep becoming godless Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my God Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my God Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my God Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my God Down to overtime, I'm up in your city Wake up, rendezvous, now we on a mission Turn the music up for me, oh my God You know I can sing on it, no call Fresh up out the shower, body's getting filthy Using all my vowels, legs up on the ceiling Talking bout, hey, hey-eh Oh my God, you gon' make me fall in love

Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much

Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much

Baby, don't take it easy on me

No one more, so keep becoming others

Never too much, never too much others Never too much, never too much

Never too much, never too much

Hey, hey, hey, oh my god

Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my god

Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh my god That's brand new music from Coco Jones In your phone and on DSPs right now That record is called A-E-O-M-G On her brand new album. Again, check it out if you have not heard it yet.

Shout out to Coco Jones.

I'm going to get that Coco Jones album the second we done up here.

It's fire.

I didn't know she dropped, but I fucked with her.

Yeah, no, she's fine.

I'm going to the A.

This is Belly Gang Cushington. The name is crazy to me.
No, we're making fun of you with the A. You're going to the A.
We're children. Don't mind us.
Yeah, that's fine. It's a pass.
You're good. You're good.
You know what? It was a... Yeah.
We discussed it. The refs got together.
We discussed it. Right.
You're good. School? School? Common foul.
Common foul. I love going today.
See? It's his favorite place. Anyway, he has a new album out today called The Streets Is Yours, and this record is 75 on 75.
Hey. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
Hey. I'm 22, bad zen, I got life 54 Yeah.
You take it to die I took a peak with 75k on 75 But these little niggas they not gang in real life They catch a case when they get in the courtroom they comply Damn son Where the fuck you find this? Shoon dice in the hood I trade 4G and this My dad ain't never been shit I don't feel like brandy I'm strapped up like them hoes that Drew skip B1 Lesbian, prostitute, these niggas ain't fucking with me I'm in the kitchen with a fork in a bowl of the stove, these niggas ain't cooking with me I'm in the street every day, these fizzes on me, the crackers be looking at me, they be jiggling at me I be letting my uncle sell the world, but he took him a piece, huh, he took him a crime I'ma cut off his own, cut off his thorn, he loud, cut off his tone Trey 5, I'm Kevin DeRoy, can't lie, I'm one of one more one Can't fly I go on the wall Can't fly I go on the floor Open a black truck with a gun tucked in the seat though like I'm going to Palmer Outside trapping in some Carhartt like I'm going to Palmer Moot Cow 2021 I had caught a couple cases I couldn't even get a burn I couldn't even get around it Dropped a bad 6,000 Nigga I came up from wearing work up in the six of houses Nigga, I came up from busting fake chats in an instant count Nigga, I came up from being switching wheels that's compounded Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, project, it's a lot of I listen to it, I'm like, damn, the samples in here? Like, he flipped M's Cleaning Out My Closet. He got a lot of expensive samples in here.
Good rapping. I know there was a lot of heat around some of his content and stuff.
Something that he was saying, but good project if you went to that type of shit. It sounded good.
He could rap. He could rap.
I'm gonna check out the whole project. So I didn't get all the way through Rayvon's new album, but I got through enough to know that I like this song, Dollar Menu.
See for dinner. I'll be nice.
Dollar Menu. Save my life.
Places exist who Who must be nice Don't let me go Save my life Hey, here go this nigga Hey, hey nigga, what's up, bro? What you want to do? Girl,, you saved my life. Maybe everything gon' be aight.

Ten piece, but my mama didn't eat that night.

Promise I'ma keep it 99 cents for life.

Last night I had sleep for dinner.

I had sleep for dinner.

Mama, I'll give.

Mama, I'll give.

Step out of Dauphine.

Know how to sell drugs, know how to sell dreams.

Age of 14, I was doing my own thing, but mama, I'm hungry

Cause last night I had sleep for dinner

And my conscience ain't way more than me

From the women I hurt, from the people I lead

From the fires I feed, find a job on Indy

Cause last night I only had sleep for dinner

In Hell's Kitchen with the recipe for disaster

In Long Beach, don't name plasma

With don't name my sperm, but I can't

Cause I know how it feel to be best

And last night I only had sleep for dinner

Couldn't even afford a TV dinner Thank you. Recipe for disaster In Long Beach, don't name Plasma Well don't name my sperm but I can't Cause I know how it feel to be bastard

And last night I only had sleep for dinner

Couldn't even for the TV dinner

Not a banquet and kids cuisine

No big calendar

Don't know how many days left on my calendar

Do you want it?

I'm gonna get into it

Just like that, motherfucker Yeah, standin' on couchers cause I'm tryin' to fuck that bitch, bringin' bottles to me

Y'all be in DMs, beggin' these hoes, I feed off the dollar, meanin'

Started off broke, now I got that money, I'm Blinky, I got it with me Y'all be in DMs, beggin' these hoes, I feed off the dollar memes Started off broke, now I got that money Young Blinky, I got it with me Y'all be in DMs, begging these hoes I feed off the dollar memes Big forehead, big story back Hate raps, but I love hood raps Wait, what's that lover on his hat? LA County, do you know where you at? Take a order, make a McDouble back Sitting at your window with a big Mac Ain't a shame that I used to wear shacks Cause I hit a home run, slide to the four bats Bear binds, when I do my look, airtime Pop out, got them shook, airtime Niggas always cry wolf, airtime Put money on books, airtime And it's like that, gotta go out and never look twice at Everything goin' good like a white staff I been tearin' through the city in a white cap Standing on couches cause I'm tryna fuck that bitch Bring a bottle, still me that Y'all be in DMs begging these hoes I feed off the dollar meal Started off broke now I got that money on Blinky I got it with me Y'all be in DMs begging these hoes I feed off the dollar meal It's Big Bag Junior, Mr. Pie Scraper, I'm the lowest favorite Throw a lot of money, do a lot of saving Don't tell that bitch how my son let some shade it Cake beef with my BEMs, I made it Hot team check DMs? I made it.
I'm part of the motion club, I made it. Nigga, I mean you, you, you hate it.
Look, I got a roster. Might catch a bougie bitch leaving my costa.
Leave it in the crib. She wants a t-shirt.
She only gon' take walk her shaves and my shot though. Just get a t-shirt.
She don't fuck with Scrawl because she want that body that she get from doctors. Come fuck with a Whopper.
Come fuck with a Whopper. I'm standing on couches because I'm trying to fuck that bitch bringing bottles to me.
There's dollar Menu by Ray Vaughn. Off his new project, which I don't know the title to off the top of my head.
That was absolutely crazy. Yeah.
Oh, it's called The Good, Bad, and The Dollar Menu. It's the name of the album.
That was absolutely insane. Which, from what I've heard, is really dope.
I can't wait to listen to the rest of it Yeah He's dope That particular song He's dope Was bonkers Yeah He's dope Shout out to Ray Vaughn For sure Got a track from The new Black Samson The Bastard Swordsman That's the Wu-Tang Clan And Mathematics album First time everybody And Wu been together Since years. Yeah.
The track is called Claudine.

You ever feel that pain?

When you lose someone, there's so much dear to your heart.

Knowing that you never get those moments back.

Wish them you could bring them back.

Just to hug them and just hold them and

Kiss them one time

Nicole Brown Nicole Ray.

Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I now If I got you Oh, you got me You'll see I got one for the lovers Two for the ones we love I know, I know, I know We gotta keep it up, yeah We not losing the Treat for the summers Or for the nights we cry I know, I know We keep trying Keep falling for our love I only love her when she mad at me She mad scrappy, that makeup sex be mad nasty Our nasty Our heads be bumping like bad acne It's sad, actually, she turn her back to get back at me And backtrack me, but we happy Just take it back and don't backstab me If that's my story, I'm sticking to it, I'm not tacky If she the mama, I'll be the pappy No need to ask me, if she attract me I'll blow her back and she need a nappy In a fetal position like in a womb You don't feel like giving how much She'll be feeling it soon Just assume another chick could never fit in your mood She's just trying to be that dish that ran away with the spoon Now, if we gon' clean house, gotta start with a room One broom and knock it clean out, never start with a goon Leave it up to boomer, we always start with a boom I got time today straight up and we starting at noon I got one for the lovers, two for the ones we love I know, I know, I know We gotta keep it up, yeah We not losing love Three for the summers, four for the nights we cry I know, I know We keep trying Keep falling for our love Let's go, girl I'm like throwing the scriptures and no pictures Staring at my mama in the kitchen doing dishes Despite how she was living, who am I to judge? But what I've learned, if your mama's alive, show her love The pain that I experienced over and through the fame Carried me for nine months, she pushed, then I came That's why the seat is so attracted to they mama on this plane To never hear that voice again, it never be the same When the death is fresh, it feel like your soul is soaked in Sadness, and find yourself crying in the open Her face was cold, she felt my tears in the casket And every drop that fell on the cheek, I cried acid Obituary, photos and flowers all in the cemetery and cries Just like the end of Cooley High Mama, come back, we miss you Come back for a couple of days so I can just hug you and kiss you I've got one for the lovers, two for the ones we love I know, I know, I know We gotta keep it up, yeah We not losing love Three the summers Or for the nights we cry I know I know We keep trying Keep falling for our love Alright, that shit was alright Y' Y'all showing y'all ass today.

Yeah.

That was crazy.

That was fire, fire.

Shout to Nicole Ray, Ghost, meth.

Yeah, for sure.

That was crazy.

That was restoring the feeling, that and that, Ray Vaughn.

And that, hey, shit.

Mm-hmm.

That's how y'all feeling?

Listen, man.

Some good shit dropped.

That's it.

Good stuff. Damn.

All right, man. Flip this up.
Who Nila Blackman dropped? Come on. Let me hear it.
Come on. We need some new Nila.
Come on. Come on.
Ain't no new Nila? Nothing. She told him.
She had that talk with him. Let me hear Nila.
What? No song. Hey, let me.
If I hear another Nila Blackman song. She did not have a hit.
I don't play Nyla, Tyler, nothing left.

You went to see Sinners, had a little date night.

Didn't play no Nyla.

No, I was a little white.

You doing it right, fix it.

It's fixed already, nigga.

You did right.

It's been fixed.

When I snap my fingers, everything, you will have fixed it already.

You will have fixed it already.

When I snap my fingers, you wouldn't be gay anymore.

It's been fixed already. You went to see Sin already.
But I started thinking you wouldn't be gay anymore. It's fixed already.

Fuck out of here.

You went to see Sinners,

a little movie,

a little dinner.

Yeah.

Huh?

Yeah.

No more of that fucking

in the room shit.

You crazy.

Got a big in the room coming, boy.

Chill out.

I don't want to talk about that right now.

Chill, chill.

Don't let him know yet.

Yeah.

These two, bro.

He keep fucking with me Oh, man He's trying to think Chilling, man I'm letting the music rock Letting the intro rock real quick Good part today Yeah Good vibes, good energy Thank you, brother Thank y'all brothers Shout out to you, Joe Y'all out there, man. Have a real good weekend.
The people you love, let them know. Tell them you love them.
Hug thy neighbor. Kiss your girl.
Buy something nice, man. Let her keep the change.
You know what I mean? Hit your grandparents if you blessed enough to still have grandparents. See? Yep.
I just went to go see mom. You know what I mean? You got the kids this week, this weekend, or full time.
Take them out, man. Take them to a little trampoline bounce house or something nice, man.
Always works. Beautiful weather out there.
Beautiful weather out there. Eagle, as for us, keep us in your prayers.
If you've been listening or if this was your first time listening, then Lord knows we need to be there. Please, please.
Until next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, cerebro, durchi, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye.
Or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as long as we have Wait up Hey As if it's all we have Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant Women want to travel, the closed-minded Women want you to teach some things, grab you a Tylenol You might need it Hey Again, we want to say happy birthday to Bernice Just because Hope Hope you're having a good time out there, girl. Hey, go.
Yo, again, if you have not made it out to see sinners, come on, man. We need that money in the recoupment foul.
Go ahead and check it out. Shout out to our brother, Ryan Coogler.
For sure. Shout out to Michael B.
Jordan, man. Great job.
Great job out there.

Shout out to everybody outside

having a good time this weekend.

Everybody inside

because you did too much last weekend.

I mean, we didn't forget about you.

Shout out to the kids.

Shout out to the parents.

Shout out to the families out there.

Hey.

Wait up.

Hey.

Shout out to Tank on Broadway.

I'm going to get there, my brother.

I'm going to get there.

Actually, shout out to Genuon Tyrese

Thank you. Wait up Hey Shout out to Tank on Broadway I'm gonna get there my brother

I'm gonna get there

Actually shout out to Genuine Tyrese

All the R&B heads at the Barclays this weekend

I'll be there on Saturday

You going in?

It's a big great show

Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Anywhere where R&B is alive and well

It's the Barclays he good

He can go in the Barclays

He can go in the Barclays

No no no

Because other people went to the Barclays and didn't go in

Oh right

So I was just saying is he gonna go in or

I suppose Tyrese do

Oh yeah no

Joe Budden Coles couldn't get in

Thank you. He can go in the Barclays.
He can go in the Barclays. No, no, I meant because other people went to the Barclays and didn't go in.
Oh, right. So I was just saying, is he going to go in or? I suppose it's our Reese, too.
Oh, yeah, no. Joe Budden Coles couldn't get in.
Joe Budden himself. Probably going to walk right in.
No hassle at all. Yeah.
No hassle at all. Me and Fifth.
I don't know. I'm going to put Fifth name in that, nigga.
Me and Fifth. Go Go catch a little concert A little Sierra Or something nice Oh I mean some R&B Yeah you know that Come on You remember that situation Oh shit I forgot about that Alright I'll tell you I want y'all to be messing Alright See That's how it should start God damn Alright Let me just get out of here After this beautiful musical breakdown,

you know what I mean?

Beautiful sounds

of Curtis Mayfield.

Shout out to everybody

away and on vacation

and if you're not

away on vacation,

now's a good time

to plan your vacation.

We approach in May.

April getting out of here

like it got somewhere to be.

It'll be August before you know it.

Don't remind me.

Nah, a Turk's trip might be in my future.

I looked at my girl.

I was like, because we've been at it.

A trip is overdue for us.

We just said that.

A trip is overdue for me and mine.

We got two coming up.

I looked at it.

I was like, yo, man, because I've been set.

Set it up.

Set it up.

Where we going?

You off your dean.

I mean, if we ain't got the trip booked,

in the We just said that. A trip is overdue for me and mine.
We got two coming up. I looked at it.
I was like, yo, man, because I've been set. Set it up.
Set it up. Where we going? You off your dean.
I mean, if we ain't got the trip booked, then you off your dean. She was quiet.
I was like, or maybe we should just take all the kids. Let's do like a family kids trip.
I'll take my kids. You take your kids.
We go to Turks and fucking turn up. I thought that was beautiful and wholesome.
She looked at me and she was like, You got your fucking mind.

She said,

You sure we don't just need a little bit of... A little us time.

A little us time.

A little us time.

I said,

You know what, baby?

There you go.

You right.

You right again, girl.

Hey, you been batting a thousand on being right, baby.

Until next time,

is anybody doing anything interesting over the weekend that I'll be able to Exploit next week When I get back to work We just going to see Sinners finally That's it Alright Ice and Missing Peace Going to see Sinners Flip Just around Just around right No Shaggy No Elephant Man No none of that Bounty Killer next Hey No vibes Got more stuff Hey Come stuff coming. Hey, come on.
Everything coming soon.

Tell them.

Yeah, they know.

Promote your shit.

Positivity highlight.

Yeah, thank you.

Everything coming soon.

Flip the network.

Thank you.

Yes, yes.

Turn it up this year.

Shout out to everybody.

Yeah.

Come on, man.

You know what I mean?

Make improper improv fail,

but all my solo ventures.

Oh, shit.

Jesus.

All my solo ventures

have turned up, man.

Doing better than ever.

It's just my joint shit with Joe that's not working out.

But solo-wise, right?

Killing it.

Anyway.

Mark, what's up with you this weekend, man?

I'm on the road speaking.

North Carolina, I'll see you on Saturday.

Denver, I'll see you Sunday.

And tonight I'll be in Philly for a memorial service.

Rest in peace to kill.

Rest in peace.

Rest in peace.

We lost.

Rest in peace.

Speaking engagement.

Sammy back on the prowl.

Back out there speaking.

Who cares who these institutions support?

I mean, as long as I get my bag.

I'm surprised he didn't call him up like, yeah.

I can take that home.

Hey, institutions, you can get me and our Kelly birthday party.

Depending on how much you got.

Y'all hold it down out there.

Be safe.

Until the next time, hold it down.

Hey. No matter how I try.
Come up on love. On love is true.
Baby, that's my life. All the time your love lose your mind.
No one could say goodbye. And anybody out there going through a silent battle, remember you are not alone in this thing, man.
Just pray to get to tomorrow. We'll be back same time, same place next week.
We love you. Hold it down.
We would be unable to do this thing without y'all, man. All of you make this thing possible.
Keep us in your prayers. And until we reunite, one on it.
Oh, and also, to my baby mama,

if I tell my son that I'm going to see you Saturday

on a weekend that's not mine,

you're just supposed to hold it down and lie to him.

You ain't supposed to really hit me up.

Yo, I keep lying to my son like, yo, man, this weekend, little dude. You ain't supposed to really hit me up.
Yo.

She keep, I keep lying to my son.

Like, yo man, this weekend, little dude.

Yo, if you want to see me, just shoot me a text.

Hey, tell your mom.

And just do you know fucking raggedy ass sin.

Keep texting me.

Yo man, you're starting looking for your dad there.

Nigga, I ain't mean that. You fucking terrible.
No, I'm joking. I'm joking.
I'm joking. Because she's trying to get that shit off because it's the summertime.
I done had my boy for like nine weekends. So now, I done did it already.
Enough now. It's my turn.
It's my time to shine now. I done did it for nine weekends, Reeves.
I ain't you my nigga you do that full time dad shit I bust and go I love you, I'm joking, I'm joking. JVP, JVP, JVP, JVP.
Bye!

I love you Lex and my baby and everyone listening.

I love you.

Wow.

See, you can't help it, bro.