Episode 820 | "Don’t Invite Them In"

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Speaker 1 Oh, audience, wait till I tell you guys

Speaker 1 about your potter of the month over here.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 yes, sir. Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Yes, sir. Ski.
Welcome back, Freeze. Good morning.
Glad to be back, man. Good morning or good evening, depending on when you're listening to this broadcast.

Speaker 1 So happy to be here. Big Freeze in the building.
I'm back, man. Yo, yo, I gotta say, man, I watched clips.
Y'all was having way too much fun. Oh, You didn't watch the episode?

Speaker 1 You didn't fuck with us that much? No, I was hating. Oh, okay.
Them niggas having fun. I wanted to see y'all depressed.

Speaker 1 Damn, son.

Speaker 1 I wanted to see the ball dropped a couple times.

Speaker 1 They are, I'm looking at Park sitting here.

Speaker 1 I was like, all right, all right, let me, I got to get the fuck back to work. Niggas was having a blast while you was gone.
Yeah, I ain't like that. That's some bullshit.
I told him about it, too.

Speaker 1 I did tell him about it. I was crying inside because I missed you.
Well, I'm glad to be back. I missed y'all for real.
We missed you. Your presence was definitely missed.
For sure.

Speaker 1 Everyone who wasn't here's presence was missed. That's true.
That's true. Such as today,

Speaker 1 Mel and Isher here with us in spirit. Indeed.

Speaker 1 Shout out to both of them. We love y'all.

Speaker 1 Prayers to them both.

Speaker 1 Prayers to Corey as well, who's not here with us. We love you.
There you go, Corey. Our brother in Christ.
Indeed. Or

Speaker 1 universe. Or universe.
Universe. Yeah, you know, Corey don't believe in all that.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, no, what we were saying before we cut the mic on, and now the mic is on.

Speaker 1 This is why you you can't just rush out there and defend black people.

Speaker 1 And I told y'all this when y'all was running around yelling free him and free him and free him to people that I didn't necessarily think should be free.

Speaker 1 Or maybe, maybe, maybe. I mean, it should have been under review.
Yeah, maybe. Let's just hear everything out.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we needed to hear both sides. Hey, a few of them niggas that y'all was putting on, yeah, I won't go there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But our good brother Mark

Speaker 1 revealed quite the revelation. Yeah, sure did.

Speaker 1 It's not that revelatory.

Speaker 1 Right. Well, let's just let them know what you did.
No, what happened was when Shannon Sharp, when the first

Speaker 1 information came out and I saw that it was

Speaker 1 the accusation was coming from somebody who was represented by what's his name? Busby. By Busby.
And I saw all the other bullshit that happened with Busby.

Speaker 1 I assumed this was just another celebrity shit. That I tend to believe people when they say something happened to him, except for when Busby's involved.
Got it. Fair.

Speaker 1 So I hit Shannon up, like, you know,

Speaker 1 just checking on you. You know, let me know how I can support you.

Speaker 1 Did he respond?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And as EJ.

Speaker 1 You still in.

Speaker 1 Hey, Shannon. Are you still on the phone? You back there responding?

Speaker 1 Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 This is still. Shannon Sharp.
No. This is Monday.
A phone should be kryptonite to you. That should wait for me.
Hey, Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't be looking at a phone, saying phone, saying nothing, rhyme with phone.

Speaker 1 Nevertheless, hitting people back in the D. Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 So, you know, as each day went by, I was like, I really wish I hadn't sent that. Really wish I hadn't sent that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're going to talk about it, but the more info that came out, I'm like, I am never supporting a black person person again on this shit. No, person, not black, a person again.

Speaker 1 I just only tend to send this shit to black people. You got to support black people.
You just can't rush. You got to wait a minute.
Yeah. You got to give it a second.

Speaker 1 You got to stay quiet for a little bit. Let it

Speaker 1 sit.

Speaker 1 Because we know us.

Speaker 1 We ain't going to tell you the whole story up front. We know our shit.

Speaker 1 We don't do that. Because when I went home and got to thinking,

Speaker 1 listen, the first album of this shit, we kicking Shannon's back in.

Speaker 1 Well, that's my position anyway. Let me not speak for my cast.
No other way to do it. But when I went home after the last part

Speaker 1 and was alone, well, my baby was there. I love you, baby.

Speaker 1 But that's the same shit. And just got to thinking a little bit,

Speaker 1 like jogging my memory,

Speaker 1 I said, holy pig feet and pork drops, Batman.

Speaker 1 How the fuck did I not piece this shit together from ages ago? Because you see certain shit as a media head and be like, hmm, mental note.

Speaker 1 Just keep it pushing. Mind your business.
That's the other thing black people do. Well, we mind our business.

Speaker 1 But we see something now. We look out the little screen door.

Speaker 1 Look out the window.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Shannon had a run where it was a lot of

Speaker 1 female guests.

Speaker 1 And I guess the gay rumors were going around. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And there was chatter about the way he would take pictures with women.

Speaker 1 That was at least a six, seven month stretch.

Speaker 1 And then nobody said nothing. Because we just assume that, you know,

Speaker 1 beard.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, nigga. Take a little free thing.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, man. Go ahead.
Go ahead, boy. And then you listen to him a few times on with Chad.
Shout out to Chad, friend of the show here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you just hear how he would speak when it came to certain, and it's like,

Speaker 1 oh, you one of them old Alabama football freaky boys.

Speaker 1 And now you can get shit off you one of them niggas that used to be behind the barn nigga

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 unleashing aggression then I remember he's a football player

Speaker 1 thinking he's a fucking media guy no no he a football player turned in one

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 1 wow This guy. He ain't shit, man.

Speaker 1 That was solid. I want to halfway support him, though.
But I do think he's on bullshit. I think this is one of the times where I think everything is true.

Speaker 1 I think everything that's being said about him, well, let me ask you that. I think a lot of the shit she's saying is probably true.
And I think everything he's saying is true, too.

Speaker 1 And I think it's a big mess, and they deserve each other.

Speaker 1 That's my gut reaction to this. They deserve each other.
That's anti-black. It might be.

Speaker 1 To say they deserve each other is anti-black.

Speaker 1 But I mean,

Speaker 1 I get

Speaker 1 everything in your life you will to be there. So I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, why are you playing with this little? That's the other thing we got to talk about. All right, I'm going to start this part.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How's everybody doing? Great, man. Great.
I know it's some of y'all niggas out there that like younger girls, but it still can't be a mid-pack.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 there's a lot wrong here. Yeah, but she's too young.
Let's get into it. And, nigga, her.

Speaker 1 I got a whole serial now. I think I'm with you.
Yeah, yeah, we on the head. Let's get it popping.
Man, he was in that room throwing that little white bitch against everyone. What?

Speaker 1 Yo, they was having that masochist

Speaker 1 wild

Speaker 1 BDSM.

Speaker 1 Nigga, get over here, little.

Speaker 1 Bow.

Speaker 1 Come back to fucking master daddy.

Speaker 1 He, what?

Speaker 1 Am I going to our outside? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 1 yeah, just

Speaker 1 let's let's let's let's hear some setups, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 After that,

Speaker 1 oh god.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 yummy.

Speaker 1 Mike check one, two, one, two, one, two.

Speaker 1 Ego.

Speaker 1 Yumi, so blessed and happy to be here with y'all. Indeed.

Speaker 1 God put grab in our lungs this morning. All praise due to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 shout out to wherever you might be listening from.

Speaker 1 All the first and last time listeners. Shout out to the hay listeners.
I love y'all. I love y'all.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the subgroups out there in the Patronies. Always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Ayy.

Speaker 1 Come on now.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my niggas out there in the car right now.

Speaker 1 Dirty cars too. Hey

Speaker 1 Good time for a car washa is gross

Speaker 1 My girl went to drive and sent me a picture of how the birds had a party on my shit

Speaker 1 That's how that's how ill the per the birds was jamming on my shit. That's sick.
I'd be sick of

Speaker 1 $300,000, $400,000 automobile with bird shit all over it. Oh man.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and get it clean, big mama. Bring it back to Daddy.

Speaker 1 Air freshener, too. Come on now.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. They put the air freshness in there.
Shout out to all the lovers out there.

Speaker 1 Engaged. She said,

Speaker 1 It's just that it's someone's over.

Speaker 1 And baby

Speaker 1 It's the weekend shout out to niggas outside

Speaker 1 the dishes this morning.

Speaker 1 I heard that rumor

Speaker 1 That rumor That rumor is watching y'all niggas out there better be careful

Speaker 1 Some niggas woke up, got to picking up the clothes on the floor from a Wild Friday night.

Speaker 1 Went in the bathroom, start getting the pine saw out. I mean,

Speaker 1 look at all the beer bottles and whiskey bottles on the counter with regret. Yeah, cleared up.
Your girl's still in the bed snoring, not doing shit. Shout out to you, ego.

Speaker 1 Hey, all the parents out there. Whoa.

Speaker 1 And the kids.

Speaker 1 And the kids, this is a children's show.

Speaker 1 This is a children's show.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the executives out there listing, all the politicians, all the musicians,

Speaker 1 all the teachers, all the postal workers.

Speaker 1 40 it up right now. 40 it up right now.

Speaker 1 Set safe with me.

Speaker 1 Miss the lady.

Speaker 1 Set my spirit free.

Speaker 1 If you woke up and you got that alcoholic beverage next to your bed today,

Speaker 1 you're doing too much. You're doing too much.
And they're gonna finish it.

Speaker 1 Hey!

Speaker 1 Yeah!

Speaker 1 Wake up, bro. Chase that down.
That's just the worst. We wake up, you're like, I'm lie, bring this to bed, right?

Speaker 1 I still drink it, though.

Speaker 1 No one's gonna waste it. You gotta still do it.
You gotta still do it.

Speaker 1 It's sitting right there. It was it from last night.

Speaker 1 That's how you jumpstart your money.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 she's my lady.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to get you right this morning.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to get y'all right out there.

Speaker 1 Hey. I guess you wonder where I've been.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, big flip in the building. Queens, what up, what up, what up, what up, man? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't waste all your energy with Shaggy niggas. Save something for me, Cat Daddy.

Speaker 1 Don't waste all the energy with Elephant Man, big dog.

Speaker 1 I need some of that. Hey!

Speaker 1 Well, Christian. Come on, come on.

Speaker 1 I love you to answer that.

Speaker 1 I wonder what my pet name would be in a gay relationship.

Speaker 1 Ah, come on, man.

Speaker 1 Siberian musk. Musk ain't gotta be hard, like Tuscan tiger.

Speaker 1 What's wrong?

Speaker 1 Do for love.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 all right, we got a great show lined up for y'all today. She don't give up

Speaker 1 in my world,

Speaker 1 only you.

Speaker 1 do for love

Speaker 1 what I would love to

Speaker 1 do,

Speaker 1 so happy to be here with y'all today, man.

Speaker 1 Really feeling good. Let me get these drops out the way.

Speaker 1 Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake you.
You were dying. Oh, my lord.
I'm so happy to be here with y'all today. Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip.
What episode is this? 820. 820.

Speaker 1 Welcome to episode 820 of the Joe Button podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be be your host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right, Big Queens Flip Queens get the money is in the building.
Dr.

Speaker 1 Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Also Dark Lamont Hill when he's here.

Speaker 1 The fans have appropriately called this thing Mark's Burner account.

Speaker 1 And I agree. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it. I agree.
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 We got Big Freeze, the freeziest of all. Mr.
Take It Further himself in the building.

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Speaker 1 all right. How's everybody doing? What's poppin'? Doing good, man.
Chilling in there, man. Good.
Good times. Now,

Speaker 1 I gotta shout out my baby. It's her birthday.
Happy birthday. Oh, shout out to her.
Happy birthday. Come on, y'all.

Speaker 1 Come on, big ram.

Speaker 1 Big ram.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, brand.

Speaker 1 It's a little clear in here, man, but we're going to pick it up today like y'all picked it up. You know what I mean? Me and Freeze is back in the building.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Don't do none of that little fake shit you're doing, try to do like dog whistling and all that shit that you and Mark Lamar here.

Speaker 1 None of that shit, nigga. We stopping that today, nigga.
Today's day is fun. I'm back in the building, nigga.
Act appropriate. You remove me from the side seat.

Speaker 1 You're the bearer of

Speaker 1 responsible actors. Yes, I am.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 You going crazy. We in the fucking building today.
And I'm happy to be here. Good.
We're happy to have you.

Speaker 1 Make sure. Smile, nigga.

Speaker 1 Happy to have you. It's good, man.
I'm just happy to see. I know I think it's out of time for something.

Speaker 1 I saw Mel last night doing it. Then, did y'all catch her on Shade Room? She was killing it.
I did see it. I did see it.
It was really good. Yeah, she

Speaker 1 was getting real on love and talking about a younger love. Is there a double standard for men and women when it comes to dating younger? And she represented.
She had the glasses on. She was sharp.

Speaker 1 It was dope.

Speaker 1 She held it down. She really held it down.
So shout out to her.

Speaker 1 It was a shade room alive. Shade Room Live.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 The on-camera joint. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was fresh. It was real fun.
It's on YouTube if you didn't catch it. Okay.
Shout out to Mel. Shout out to Mel.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mel. Hey.

Speaker 1 Get ahead, girl. I do the same shit.

Speaker 1 Get the work up. You never know.
You never know. Hey, Mel.
I'm there. I do the same thing.
Nigga, trying to play around, nigga. I'm out there working.

Speaker 1 Don't let that nigga stop you.

Speaker 1 We don't give a a fuck. They're speeches, bases, bases, mages, bases, pages.
Show up you working, nigga. It's a shade.

Speaker 1 We put to the shade.

Speaker 1 But the glasses. Make a statement with us a boy.
Make a fucking statement. Let's get it, nigga.

Speaker 1 Get out that nigga.

Speaker 1 Send Mark the speech.

Speaker 1 Hey, nigga. Read this in the morning.

Speaker 1 Don't forget.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Spirit. Oh, my God.
Shout out to Mel. Shout out to Melissa.
Leave me alone today. I'll never start today.
I love a flip here. Yeah, that's got to throw it near the room.
That's it.

Speaker 1 You set me up for it, too. I thought it's right there.
Yeah, we're looking at this shit, too.

Speaker 1 I forgot wherever I was trying to start.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, I did go see Sinners. Yes, me too.

Speaker 1 Me too. I'm doing that now.
However,

Speaker 1 Freeze didn't see you yet. However, no, I'm just trying to get a small portion of the audience to hate you for the weekend.
Got it, got it, got it.

Speaker 1 However, I'm unable to give my very detailed review because Freeze has not seen it yet and he's going tonight. Yes.
I've been ready since Monday.

Speaker 1 I went out last night at like midnight to see this shit. Me too.
I think it's Monday. To talk about it.
I thought we were going to do that on Tuesday. That was really important for work purposes.

Speaker 1 I don't surprise anybody. But Freeze is going.

Speaker 1 But Freeze is going to see it tonight.

Speaker 1 For work purposes, such a blockbuster. Yeah.
Ryan Koogler. Hi.

Speaker 1 The original film.

Speaker 1 Come on. Slash Caddyshack or something.
Slash Sydney.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to think of an old movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but as soon as Freeze sees it,

Speaker 1 we'll be here with our review.

Speaker 1 Or,

Speaker 1 do you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or we'll send Freeze ass to Starbucks in an hour and a half. Yeah.
And just get a little bit of it. That's not like a plan.
I got to know what you think about some things on there. And I got to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you too.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to know what y'all think, dog. Great film.

Speaker 1 I loved it. Well, the whole

Speaker 1 listen. All right, look.
If you're here, let me know so I can go to Starbucks.

Speaker 1 Hold on, Freeze. Hold on, Freeze.
I'll take a cappuccino. I do want to say a little Tupperwapper.
All right, well, hold on, let me go.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, let's get it.
Except just for a little something.

Speaker 1 The close Starbucks.

Speaker 1 Not the one that's.

Speaker 1 They both leave.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, don't go outside and do no. Go outside and look at the scene.

Speaker 1 We know those little breaks. You got to be able to do that.
We know that. I'm at your birthday party.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, y'all walked out at your birthday party. Yo, y'all did that at my birthday party.

Speaker 1 There was wild behavior at my birthday party.

Speaker 1 That we could just never address. I was so mad I didn't go to that party.
You should. Mark Lamar Hill.
I was at home like mad as shit. Damn.

Speaker 1 You should have went to that. Oh, that was before you were like really, really up to the business.
Yeah, I had got the invite. You still got the invite.

Speaker 1 I got the invite, but wifey, you know, we just, anyway, yeah. It wasn't going to play.
At that point, you don't know that that's an event that you probably should just a lot of shit went on that

Speaker 1 we just swept under the under the rug, and I don't even have a broom. Family business, it is what it is, yeah

Speaker 1 that we saw there in plain sight. Oh, yeah, yeah, obvious shit.
I didn't know Freeze was doing that at my birthday party

Speaker 1 a little bit.

Speaker 1 Freeze, listen. My main takeaway from sinners is

Speaker 1 don't date white bitches. Yo,

Speaker 1 the whole movie is telling you in mad different ways not to date the white chicks. Not trust white people in general, I think.

Speaker 1 At all.

Speaker 1 My wife literally turned to me about three recordings through like, Dr. Umar tried to tell us.
If someone comes to your door with a banjo,

Speaker 1 no. Don't let them in.
Absolutely not. Get that banjo shit the fuck out of there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the best takeaway from me. I loved it.
I loved it. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 And don't succumb to greed neither. Money is not everything.

Speaker 1 When she went out there to get, because if she didn't go out there to go check on the white people and get money from them to see how much they had, I mean, nothing would have happened.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. I didn't think about that.
So don't, don't, don't, you know,

Speaker 1 a fallen agree. One of the twins, I don't remember which one, was kind of cool with the fact that it wasn't really making no bread.
We're going to build this up. Yeah,

Speaker 1 smoke. And yeah, they sent the white girl out to bring in some white.
Or Stack was what was cool with it because he was the one like, yeah, fuck it. Take the wooden nickels.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else?

Speaker 1 I loved how this was, I think this might have been Ryan Kugler's best film, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 I think Fruitville is still better, but they're still different. Yeah.
Yeah. They're very different.
This was like a

Speaker 1 masterpiece things. For sure.
That one is a lot more like story.

Speaker 1 Fruitville was a real event. Yes.
And Ryan Kugler wasn't nobody. True.
Right.

Speaker 1 So, wow, it tugged on the heartstrings. We all cried.
But no budget, real story. We see what he did.
Black Panther is still Black Panther.

Speaker 1 There are other reasons that we go into the theater outside of, hey, Ryan Kugler's involved in this. Granted, he did a great job, but we come into the theater in droves for other reasons as well.

Speaker 1 The same thing could be said with Creed. You're leaning on 40 years of equity with Rocky fans, Apollo.

Speaker 1 Fair. You might have did an amazing job, too.

Speaker 1 This movie was my first time, because I don't want to be ignorant to the movie buffs out there that may know differently, was my first time seeing Ryan Koogler as Ryan Koogler trusted with this large of a budget,

Speaker 1 relying on his star player that he done called on three and four times to now come and be two niggas.

Speaker 1 Because this is so important. I can't lose the viewership of you not being involved in even the bad side of this when we cut to that.
Like, this was just, it was a lot going on.

Speaker 1 I loved all the historical shit. I love them saying, still, even in this, don't play with them natives.
I love that. Yes.

Speaker 1 I love the. Yeah, they should have listened.
Yeah, don't play with the natives. I thought that was the nature.
The natives came.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this ain't that. This ain't that.

Speaker 1 Come on out. Is he in there?

Speaker 1 We're here for business.

Speaker 1 And they ain't playing with them. No.
They ain't doing none of that evil eye, none of that shit. No, never.
And them Choctaw got the fuck up out of there. They ain't here no more problems.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 That's what I loved about it. Exactly.
I love that.

Speaker 1 Until the Korean lady did the cornball shit, I loved how they held us down.

Speaker 1 Because then I later read that historically the role of the blacks and Asians. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was amazing. And then I'm a musician.
So all of that musical shit

Speaker 1 was fire. First of all, I think not all of it.
I grew up in a blues household, so this was a trope that I'm familiar with, and I just love putting blues in the forefront in 2025 in that manner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I totally agree. Why are you saying not all of it? That one mashup scene, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 Irish? Yo. No, no, the swaggerless trap drum.

Speaker 1 Blues. They lost me for 35 seconds.
Yeah, it lost me too.

Speaker 1 That was the one. That was fire.
It could have been the one. They should have called Metro or somebody.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I like the idea of it. I didn't like how they executed the sound.

Speaker 1 A little

Speaker 1 shit y'all. Yeah, y'all crazy as hell.

Speaker 1 The message behind that scene. That scene is the one that's going to be.
The way you're sitting there almost

Speaker 1 fucked me up.

Speaker 1 Because it didn't sound right at first. Not at all.
And then when it took you a second to see what was adjusting it. I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 and yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 The blues, the blues dude, I didn't expect his voice to be like that once he started singing in the car.

Speaker 1 Oh, he changed.

Speaker 1 And neither did the twin. It's like, oh, shit, we went.
Hey, come with me, homeboy. Right.
You can sing like that. What's my man that plays the harmonica? What's his name, the actor? Oh,

Speaker 1 Del Roy Lindo. Yeah.
Yes. He would be a dead ringer for Holland Wolf if they ever do a movie.
I don't know if you guys are blues at that spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of blues, Buddy Guy at the end? The real buddy guy at the end?

Speaker 1 Oh, come on, man. And most people had left the theater when we saw it because it was like a post-script.
So people had walked in the middle of the day. My whole theater stayed and knew to stay.

Speaker 1 I went to a black theater.

Speaker 1 Niggas was gone.

Speaker 1 I went to a white theater with black people in there. Oakland.
Like it was nothing but black people in there.

Speaker 1 You had a culture. What was the black theater? The Max Johnson nigga? I don't want to say which one, but I'm just saying a lot of, I say for in the credits.
Got it.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people don't read the credits. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 In general, but afterward, when they popped up, the genius of that scene, I also thought was they hit home something that was subtle throughout the whole movie about the exploitative nature of white culture and white culture theft.

Speaker 1 When dude comes in with the Cooji and the white girl, when they come in in that scene

Speaker 1 to meet the new version of preacher boy it's like oh but now

Speaker 1 but now you are alive with this white girl but you can only come out when it's dark like you're kind of stuck in this really nasty ugly life even though you're alive versus uh my big the big black woman the beautiful thick black woman that i love

Speaker 1 i love that that was her role and portrayal i was real sad when she got bit spoiler alerts. Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 1 But I love that love story. And though they died,

Speaker 1 it was like

Speaker 1 we're alive in spirit through multi-generations. So it was just telling a lot of different stories.
It was. Yeah, I loved all that.
I thought... To your point, the blues piece was beautiful.

Speaker 1 There's this moment where Del Rollindo talks about the blues. He said the blues is sacred.
And he talked about what the blues meant.

Speaker 1 He said, not that shit they gave us religion-wise, but the blues is ours. That gets into our souls.
And the blues was like a real weapon to fight these vampires by the end.

Speaker 1 And he's a survivor. So it's a way of talking about black traditions that I thought was there.
That's what I took from it, too.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, telling Sammy to hold on to the blues because that's ours, you know, Christianity and all the stuff that we learned was given to us by the white man. It was forced on us.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? We have this. Let's cherish this.
Don't let that go. That was an important part for me as well.
And when they were driving down the road,

Speaker 1 when he dropped, because they're talking about the convict lease system, you know, when black folk were basically put back on plantations after slavery.

Speaker 1 And they're driving down the road, Del Rollindo gets up, sees all the dudes, tells that crazy story about everything that happened with those guys and how he was part of that.

Speaker 1 And then the way he processed it was to start singing. Right.
And then to have my man play the guitar. So the blues became a way of healing.
Like, it's just like, it was dope. They got into that.

Speaker 1 And then, and I, and I was in love with that sister, man. Like, the

Speaker 1 who do you think that's the sister that was doing who's doing it? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it was the first movie I've seen in a long time on the mainstream that didn't make black spiritual traditions look cultish or look creepy.

Speaker 1 The creepy people were the weird white people, the clan, right?

Speaker 1 But she had a lecket bead, she had a leke beads, she was doing hoodoo, she was doing jobs. Any of my spiritual people didn't know.

Speaker 1 Starting not to cut you off, but who, if you're watching this movie, should also be identified. Yes.
That's up. I'll leave that up to you to identify them how you want.

Speaker 1 But I had a picture of who that was representing

Speaker 1 throughout the movie. The demon white people.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you were saying

Speaker 1 they just told a whole story about black spiritual traditions and the mix between music and spirit

Speaker 1 that I thought was powerful from the church to the hoodoo to the blues.

Speaker 1 I just thought it was beautiful and without having to hit us over the head with it. Yeah, a very subtle way of telling you exactly how you lost culture.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was a very, it was such an ill

Speaker 1 sleek way of holding the mirror up to you because it can't happen without your invite. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that part just being so and my even and my beautiful black said what is her name again? Because I don't want to keep saying that. But when she was like, hold up now, homeboy.

Speaker 1 You about six, seven, six, eight. Right.

Speaker 1 What you need an invite for? Right. Right.
You don't use one of those.

Speaker 1 You can push right on. You can push right past us.

Speaker 1 Behind every black man is a strong black woman that's going to see something that maybe you don't. For sure.
Umi Mosaku? Yeah, yep, that's it.

Speaker 1 I fuck with love.

Speaker 1 Even the Irish mashup, I like that. I like, you know, when he was.
Now you're about to get in my bag. Oh, he was getting it to the bag.
I love that. It was so many gems in that, how, you know,

Speaker 1 music is taken and is. sort of like redefined, right? It's redefined and sometimes misappropriated, but we all fall in line, if you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 While the white man is in the middle, and we all fall in line a lot of the times when they come into our culture and take control of it. It was, that's what I took from that, man.
But it was fine.

Speaker 1 Listen, I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I love this point that you brought up.

Speaker 1 I love this movie. I love the premise.
I love all this historical black shit that we're talking about. I love the blackness, the blackety blackness of it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I also liked White Thriller in the Woods. Fire, son.
But I think that was part of the messaging about about culture and all that shit. It's like, oh, that shit kind of slaps a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's not really what we do here, but

Speaker 1 maybe y'all could come in because that's not bad. Y'all got somebody.

Speaker 1 They was watching from the house.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, look at the white nigga. Hey,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I was in the stand like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, white niggas.

Speaker 1 White niggas is jamming in. They did their little dance with nobody.

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 As a person of Irish descent, I didn't like our music being portrayed as the evil music like that.

Speaker 1 Nah, y'all was in the woods smoking that shit. That was shit busy.
That was fire. That was a fire scene.
Yo, it was all good. Yeah, yeah, it was.
I had a couple nitpicks.

Speaker 1 I had a couple nitpicks with the film. Yeah, I'm the dickhead of the movie with Nick taking notes.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I'm always going to be made super for that.

Speaker 1 You know, anyway,

Speaker 1 some of the accents were bad.

Speaker 1 I didn't love the accents, and I didn't, I thought they should have done a little bit better. And this is my nerdy thing with movies.
Sure. I hate when the slang don't match the era.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Like when he's like, let's get it popping. Oh, I didn't hear it.
Or let me holler at you. Or even paddy wagon in the south.
You know, little things like that.

Speaker 1 Real quick, irked the shit out of me. That did the same thing when I was listening.

Speaker 1 So I know when I was listening to the autobiography of Malcolm, because a lot of words that we said now, in that auto, I don't know when that was written, but they seemed like back in the days, it was being said.

Speaker 1 I don't know when. I don't think we have a Malcolm Scholar.
That's true. Yeah, no, no, I'm just saying, like, he put me on to it.
I listened. I'm like, wait, they said that back in the days.

Speaker 1 They were saying this back in the day. They was.

Speaker 1 Because he wrote the book right before he died. That's what I'm saying.
So it's so crazy how we adapt the slangs today. Yeah.
Right? The certain slangs about Harlem and shit.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I was listening to it. They didn't say that back in the days.
I swear to God, but I realized when the book was written, and I said, oh, they were saying that back in the day. So,

Speaker 1 I mean, you may know, but it could be a possibility. You know, ever since I listened to it, some of it.
Some of it. You're right.
You're right. Some of it could be like a circular.
Let me holler.

Speaker 1 You've already been saying back. But the thing that got me, the thing that irked me the most was only, like, Michael B.
Jordan looks like, I mean,

Speaker 1 that last scene where he's shooting up the place with the wife beater on. It looks like he came from Vietnam, not World War I.
Like, nobody 1930. The nigga looked like

Speaker 1 Rambo. You know what that scene is for.
I want my star player in a tank top sweating with a gun with muscles

Speaker 1 killing the bad guy. We don't care.
And I'm a hater. Yo, this is our movie.
That was hate. That's definitely hate.
That's totally hate.

Speaker 1 this is the scene that's selling our movie yeah i get it i'm like i'm in that i'm in the movie everybody women cheering niggas clap i'm like jim crow didn't have triceps like that

Speaker 1 oh my god man i was talking

Speaker 1 it's complete hate let me be very clear and i love michael b jordan that's my brother love you bro but yeah too many muscles michael b jordan amazing job man

Speaker 1 you bodied it really really really great job and both roles i have nothing to say I have absolutely zero.

Speaker 1 They try to pigeonhole him as far as his acting.

Speaker 1 You know, how far does he, but he did great here. They is me.
Yeah, you say he didn't speak or some shit.

Speaker 1 They is me. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't need to dame me.
I'm right here. He overexcelled.
Like, he did great.

Speaker 1 This is his. I loved him in the movie about Byron Stevenson, too.
What's it called?

Speaker 1 Where he played the lawyer. Just a question.
No question.

Speaker 1 Getting somebody out of prison. He's not here, my name.
Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 But it was like a couple years ago. But this was in terms of the stretch and the reach and playing two people and all the shit he had to do and the action out and stuff.

Speaker 1 This is my my favorite performance of his. This and Fruit Vale.

Speaker 1 I would like to know how they did some of that. Like, technically.
Yeah, like his father's twins, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was fly. Does anyone think that one of the twins was supposed to be Jonathan Majors? That's something that's been floating around out there.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I read him something about him saying that it was important for them to be fraternal and not maternal twins. Meaning they look like identical twins instead of

Speaker 1 non-identical twins. There was something in there.
I was just about to tell you I forgot the meaning of fraternal, paternal.

Speaker 1 I might be messing that up. There was something important about them.

Speaker 1 Which ones match? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought it was the opposite,

Speaker 1 but I don't know. I don't know for sure.
But yeah, them looking the same made it kind of dope. Yeah.
Yeah. It made it kind of dope.
Yeah. And, you know,

Speaker 1 once you see the

Speaker 1 once you visualize all of the Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Koogler collabs and see see them side by side, it just looks like the development of Michael B.
Jordan.

Speaker 1 So it almost looks, it's almost unfair. Not unfair, because I was kicking his back in and I never do that about niggas in Jersey.
But it was just funny. It was just funny.

Speaker 1 Only because in Creed, I still think he had maybe eight lines total.

Speaker 1 And in Black Panther, the one we came in there on some games. I think it may have been 16 lines.
Hey, Auntie. Yeah, that was two.
But he ain't there for that, and he's still A-list.

Speaker 1 So now, there was nothing to be said about how many lines, the script. It was him.
He was there. He was talking.
And performed. Yeah, he performed.
He killed. Yeah.
He absolutely killed.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Michael B. Jordan.
Again, Ryan Kugler, Chef's Kiss. Yeah.
I tipped my hat. Amazing.
Technically, the visual and audio side of it was stunning, beautiful. Yes.
I saw it on the IMAX.

Speaker 1 Absolutely beautiful. The score was great, too.
German guy did a lot of the scoring.

Speaker 1 Donald Glover's collaborator. I can't remember his name.
Ludwig something. Yeah, but a long German name.

Speaker 1 killed him. He did all type of shit in there.
Great choice. Great song choices.
And then again, Buddy Guy at the end. And hearing Buddy Guy 88 hit them notes.
Yeah, no. Buddy Guy's still him.

Speaker 1 I think that he still has the club in Chicago. He still performs regularly.
He does.

Speaker 1 And I would encourage anybody out in Chicago, or if you travel to Chicago, if you haven't done it, go to his club or any of the number of blues clubs that, at least when I lived there, still existed.

Speaker 1 It's important and you should go. It's probably the best blues scene, I think, outside of like maybe Tennessee.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 To me, I mean, I've been all over the, like I said, I grew up with the blues. It's the best blues scene to me in America.

Speaker 1 Which means probably the world. So, when y'all see a thriller like this, how many times did you like jump out your seat? Did you like drop your popcorn? Did you get shook a little?

Speaker 1 Tell the truth. I'm so glad that you said that.
My girl jumped any time one of the demons flew in the air. Yeah, my wife, too.
By the third time. Everybody's wife did it.

Speaker 1 The first time she did a jump,

Speaker 1 she kind of brought me with her.

Speaker 1 So now I feel like a bitch.

Speaker 1 The second time, she might have dropped my popcorn out of my hand. By the third time, I'm like, yo, dog, they fly.

Speaker 1 This shouldn't be a big fucking surprise every time they fucking levitate. Yo, my wife grabbed my hand.
I let the first one slide. Well, then I got a little scared too, I ain't gonna lie.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I'll be covering my ears like that. When something's about to happen, I will watch it, but cover my ears because the fucking town.
You're a bitch. Yeah.
I leaned into my wife.

Speaker 1 And I only wanted to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We both can't be shook.

Speaker 1 When they be prepared for shit, I go like that. I cover my ear.
I don't want to hear the sound, nigga. I want to see it.

Speaker 1 When that jump scared me, I don't like that shit. That jump got me twice.
They do this great thing where right when the person's about to attack, they jump and they do a jump cut to the back

Speaker 1 to the club, which I thought was really beautiful.

Speaker 1 But that shit had me shook twice. I dropped my popcorn one time.

Speaker 1 And them doing the,

Speaker 1 pardon me, readaptation of

Speaker 1 the iconic black picture that's in all of our houses of the dance scene. The disco scene.
Yeah. That was great.
And killing dude with the guitar and what that might mean. Yep.

Speaker 1 Like it's just a lot to pick up on. I'm sure I'll watch this movie again.
And we're going to stop our coverage of that now because I'm sure Ice Ben stopped fucking.

Speaker 1 Ice Ben done.

Speaker 1 He does advertise the seven-minute man. It is that.
Ice Ben done. We can get him.
We can get him.

Speaker 1 I'm super into slaying KKK vampires, by the way.

Speaker 1 That shit was fire. Yeah.
That shit was fire. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I could not see white people ever again

Speaker 1 after that. That's how I felt that night.
I was like, I don't need to see no white people for like five minutes.

Speaker 1 I had to go look in the mirror.

Speaker 1 I scared the shit out of myself.

Speaker 1 Good talk. Good talk.
Freeze, I ain't gonna lie. We smoked that.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you did. I'm glad you did.

Speaker 1 I'm still going to see it.

Speaker 1 And I still want your review

Speaker 1 when we come back.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 Now I've got Starbucks shit, too. My bad.
Lamb was long.

Speaker 1 Lamas long. I was looking forward to that, Cappuccino.
I got you next time. All right, Mark.
Back to you DMing

Speaker 1 this guilty black man

Speaker 1 being so in a rush to fucking be of our people. We are, I mean, you know, the other thing is, you know, in the media,

Speaker 1 we tend to have a network of people who support each other. So, you know, I tend to reach out to folk in my line of work.
Oh, I'm not in that network.

Speaker 1 There's a group chat and a signal. You should jump on it.
You'd be welcome. Half of that group chat is probably beefing with me.
Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure.
You're having beefing with me, too.

Speaker 1 And I probably have no idea why they're beefing with me. Because you probably kicked it back in.
I was just going to say, then they remind you, yo, you know, you said this, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I deserve it. The only person I know why we don't talk is Charlamagne.

Speaker 1 Why don't y'all talk? And y'all ain't even got beef. Because I let him have it.
I wasn't playing with it. A couple times.
I've seen it. And vice versa.
I wasn't playing with it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's let me have it.

Speaker 1 He's played. He's played in a way that I felt like he needed a pow pal many, many, many, many, many years ago.

Speaker 1 i think we both have a high level of respect for each other so i feel like y'all bitch after the

Speaker 1 barbs back and forth a couple different times no not after that spotify negotiation one that's the one that's why you go off

Speaker 1 that's the one where i had just hung up with him 10 minutes before i went on air and i didn't like i didn't like i didn't like what i heard

Speaker 1 bad time i need y'all to work that out I mean, there's no beef, but I need y'all to work out. There's

Speaker 1 a bunch of

Speaker 1 yeah, but the two of y'all shouldn't be on opposite. Like, the two of y'all on the same page is good for the entire culture.
It's good for everybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Absolutely. Am I holding back the culture?

Speaker 1 No. I ain't going to say that.
Not because it's. You're not holding it back, but, you know.
Any of you other niggas that got a beef with me, I promise you have no idea why. I have no idea why.

Speaker 1 Well, I know why Van was mad, too.

Speaker 1 He called me and told me. Are y'all good now? What's good?

Speaker 1 You don't care about making it good. That's true.
That's the thing. All right, cool.
You got a beef? Stay there. Because I don't beat knowing what's bad.
Like, I have no problem with Van.

Speaker 1 I didn't have a problem with Van when he called and told me what his problem was with me.

Speaker 1 Got you. I'm not even aware of that.
I'm always next game. I'm always, what are we on next? Hey, can we get through that? Is somebody sorry? Did somebody do something wrong? Do you apologize?

Speaker 1 Everybody.

Speaker 1 Sometimes, I think I apologize to Van. Maybe.
Don't quote me. My memory's bad.
Trout to Van. Because sometimes that's all it takes is just accepting.
Yeah, you know what? Shout out to Van.

Speaker 1 We probably went to Father Dan for the first time when I played the clip of him talking about his father on the podcast that I was so touched by. Okay, we called him and we spoke.
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good. Anybody else, I have no idea why y'all are behind me.
I promise you I don't. Y'all just don't like me because you heard a story or yada yada yada.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Or you should have done a podcast, but whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's enough

Speaker 1 to be so

Speaker 1 invested in your anger towards somebody.

Speaker 1 You know how many niggas have shitted on me on a podcast?

Speaker 1 you're not realizing your reach. You shitting on them and them shitting on you has two different results.
Well, then they should stop.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not talking about

Speaker 1 you shitting on somebody on here

Speaker 1 has a total different effect than somebody shitting on you. You're also a little bit more creative with your barbs.
You're better at a lot of... Yeah, yeah.
You're better at it.

Speaker 1 You could fuck up somebody money shitting on a paper. I wouldn't want to do that.
But you can't

Speaker 1 have done it. Yeah, yeah.
You come from fucking battle rapping.

Speaker 1 It's a different level of creativity. I'm not going to steal inside.
You will say some sneaky little shit that no one will catch but them and it will fucking hurt.

Speaker 1 Yo, if anybody out there still has a beef with me, if it's over five years old, let's piece it up.

Speaker 1 Let's squash it. That's not how I'm living.
That's not how I'm living in my 40s. That's not where I'm at at 45.

Speaker 1 And maybe because we haven't spoken or you only hear me on my fucking platform, you don't know that about me.

Speaker 1 It's not my ministry today. I don't have a beef with any of y'all.
I wish everybody well, get money. I hope niggas' kids, parents, and families is good.

Speaker 1 I hope niggas is living right, eating healthy, trying to stay alive. I've seen too many friends, real, real friends that I came in this business with, leave right before my eyes in recent years.

Speaker 1 Like people from my class,

Speaker 1 like the Clarks and the Irves, and the list goes on and on. I can't, I'm not,

Speaker 1 it's precious. It's precious.
I like that, man.

Speaker 1 It's precious. It's precious, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hit me. Or

Speaker 1 allow me to be in y'all little punk nigga group chat that y'all got. There you go.
Right back up. We were always there.

Speaker 1 But I would say that in the group chat. I don't say nothing.
I'm mind nobody back that with me.

Speaker 1 I'm honored to be in y'all little punk-ass group chat. Hey, this way.
This is where all you bitch-ass niggas been hiding at.

Speaker 1 No, I'm joking. I'm joking.
I'm joking. I'm going to add you this week.
I'm joking. Addle, man.
Addle. Hey, hey, get the word first.

Speaker 1 I don't want your gang to look at you, Shady.

Speaker 1 Who's the leader of the chat?

Speaker 1 Who's the leader of the group chat? I'm not allowed to say that. Listen, who mad? Actually, I'll be.
You know what? I'll tell you, you just got to just beep it.

Speaker 1 The leader of the group is.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fine. You got to beep that one too.
Make sure you get it. You got you?

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm polarizing.

Speaker 1 So you can't just bring me... I'm a different plus one.

Speaker 1 He's blowing that sick shit out of me.

Speaker 1 Some plus ones you should announce before the function.

Speaker 1 That's your man code.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah. Yo, you know, I'm fly.
I recently got fly with such and such. And he cut it with me.

Speaker 1 Nah. He said he really plans on coming.
He didn't just, he ain't going to flake.

Speaker 1 But if he gets on his bullshit, it's on you. I'm right here.
You think I would be on my best black behavior in the prominent black group chat scene? You feel like a muff. Feel like a muff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1 No, you would. In real life, I'm not that bad.

Speaker 1 I hear some bullshit in there.

Speaker 1 Yep. Let somebody say that.
Let somebody say some bullshit that you don't like. Or, no, no, that way.
I wouldn't reply. Better.
Let them be having a bad day.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't reply. That's the one.
That's how they get it.

Speaker 1 That's the one.

Speaker 1 My friends represent me wrong on this podcast.

Speaker 1 Are you crazy for the freeze? He goes, I've been letting a lot of shit slide, but today I got the top. That's not true.
That's the intro. I would not.
You motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 If I felt the way, I would

Speaker 1 try to turn off the shit. The sassy shit in the group chat is to leave, which I'm so old.
I don't remember how to do it no more. You fucking can't damn that now.
They stopped it, right?

Speaker 1 That shit is annoying, bro. Yeah, when I'm feeling sassy in the group chat, Joe button left conversation.
But you know, you know how we used to do it in the middle. Adam bag.
Where you going?

Speaker 1 Bro, bag. Let's go.
You ain't leaving the group chat. Get your ass back over here.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right, that was great.
Thank you, Mark. No problem.
So anyway, you DM'd Shannon Shaw. Ah,

Speaker 1 no. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 So, and like I said, it was a quick exchange, but

Speaker 1 since then, I've gotten a lot of information that I think we should focus on. Sure.

Speaker 1 So, piece of information number one, he announced very recently, as of this broadcast, that he is taking some time away from ESPN. Sure, he announced that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he actually said, I'm going to step away. No, no, that ain't what he's saying.
Oh, I get what you're saying. I'm just saying, yeah, but he put it out there.
And Freeze was on it, too.

Speaker 1 Can you break down what happened? Because it was an unknown moment. It definitely was an moment.
Somebody sent him a text message of what to say. They typed it out.

Speaker 1 Yo, dog, copy this. This is your statement.
They even signed his name at the bottom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I posted it. Yeah.
Yo, post this. That's what they told him.
Yo, post this.

Speaker 1 He screenshot it, cropped a little box, and posted it. Yeah.
He took, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you was, you know.
Which made it look, to some people, including myself, even less authentic. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 it looked like you may not have even read it.

Speaker 1 You didn't read it. You know what I'm saying? Like PR teams had screenshot and hit tweet.
But

Speaker 1 what the the message effectively said was that he's stepping away from espn to deal with this unfair attack that he's receiving but that he'll be back by the start of the nfl preseason yeah i heard that which is interesting right oh no i was gonna say one more thing i spoke to two executives at espn the day before fucking journalist right here right yeah and i was and what they told me was that he wasn't returning to espn like that that they were already going to cut him so i'm wondering if either they changed their mind or i got to put all the possibilities out there or this is his team trying to preempt that.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I'm going to take a break before y'all officially fire me because now they can't say he's fired and hoping it just dies and goes away.

Speaker 1 The second that he said he would be back at the start of NFL preseason, I took my hands out,

Speaker 1 started just doing some counting for sure. August.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. August is right there.

Speaker 1 So let me be the third person to tell you, Dr. Mark Lamani,

Speaker 1 Shannon Sharp will not be back at the start of NFL preseason. Or season.
Or playoffs. Or postseason.
Shannon Sharp will never see the ESPN airwaves again.

Speaker 1 And we wish that on no one, but he won't be back in August. Wait, talk about if he if he were to be

Speaker 1 acquitted exonerated, whatever the word is,

Speaker 1 it can't work. Not by August.

Speaker 1 Not by August. It's too bad now.

Speaker 1 Well, yes, but I'm saying certainly not by August. Gotcha.
Dog, every 10 minutes, something else is coming out. There's a new accuser now.
Yeah, I've read that.

Speaker 1 Like, now we're at the point where we're in full-on attack mode. Like, just the noise.
Again, you talk about companies and weighing your risk. The noise is too loud at this point.
And this is Disney.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Disney don't play. I'd like to know what happens to

Speaker 1 his other platforms. Like, great, you won't be with Disney.
Right. What happens with Nightcap? What happens with your shit? I think it'll be fine.
Some of that shit he.

Speaker 1 I love that he's still working. Yeah, yeah.
Because I like to see people work through the drama. Yeah.
Are those his

Speaker 1 nightcap? Is

Speaker 1 Shay Shay isn't. Shay Shay's owned by

Speaker 1 volume. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, look, he makes a lot of money for people.

Speaker 1 And if you don't have a brand, if you're not brand conscious, like these, and these YouTube channels generally aren't, you'll be fine. Now, I'm sure he lost a hell of a large bag.

Speaker 1 You might take some of them little logos off the

Speaker 1 YouTube. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
That shit's going to be big. He's having a lot of private conversations and the back channels.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 For certain. So I don't know if he, and I'm curious to know what y'all think.
Like, I think he's mishandled this at every turn. Absolutely.
I agree with you. At every turn.

Speaker 1 Releasing the information about the girl didn't do what he thought it was going to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It hurt. Yeah.
It hurt a lot more than it helped. Yeah.
He needs a fixer. Yeah.
That's what it sounded like. Yeah.
You need an Olivia Pope or somebody on your spot.

Speaker 1 You need somebody there to say, yo, dog, chill out. Let us handle this.
Right. Releasing the girl is when he lost me that didn't help either that once i saw the girl

Speaker 1 i'm dead ass say more it's not a 25 000 butt cheek no for me

Speaker 1 well for me it's the same for me it's the same

Speaker 1 same rules apply for when we talk about the age gaps the other way it's no difference to me right you are 56 years old about to be 57.

Speaker 1 my girl was talking about oh you 50 years old i said no the fuck you ain't let me hit the google no he ain't it's just 50. He ain't 50.
Yeah, yeah. No, you're 56 years old, and you met the girl.

Speaker 1 See, that's what I was asking you. It was unclear when we recorded last time.

Speaker 1 All that was said that broke while we were recording was, he met this girl when she was 19, which is foul.

Speaker 1 But I don't know when you met the girl, and that don't say when you started being romantic, so I won't rush to judgment. Nigga, they say you met the girl in 2023.
Nigga, that's yesterday. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. I'm going to say, that's that's very, very, very, very recent.
So now you're just nasty. If you didn't do nothing wrong and your story is legit,

Speaker 1 you look nuts.

Speaker 1 And that's why he can't get back to ESPN because even if he did nothing wrong and nothing illegal, just the shit he's acknowledged he did looks absolutely nuts with this little tiny OnlyFans girl.

Speaker 1 Listen, I am 41 years old. My wife is 31 years old.
We were at a college bar in Elmira this last weekend, which is all

Speaker 1 probably 21, 22 year olds, and I felt anxious and weird and had to get the fuck up out of there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And obviously we have no interest in sleeping with any of these people.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk to them damn near.

Speaker 1 I don't even want them to look at me or blow up.

Speaker 1 I want to not coach them. We should not coach.

Speaker 1 His kids are older. I'm 15 years younger than him.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 His kids are older than that girl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a thing. I don't judge age gaps.
Obviously, I just said that me and my wife have a 10-year age cap. But yeah, I got to tell you.

Speaker 1 Fucking with teenagers is crazy to me. Yep.
It's wild. So he also lost.
Because there's a few angles you play when you get caught in a situation like this. One is I didn't do it.
Two,

Speaker 1 they, whoever they is, are setting me up. So we tend to close ranks around people who get set up.
You lose the, they're setting me up when you're 54 with a 19-year-old that you met at the gym.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Stop right there.

Speaker 1 That's another thing I had to get clarity on when I went went home and had time to think to myself.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't. You didn't.
What, meet her at the gym? You didn't. You didn't.
That's something that was able to fly last time when we were just recording there. Oh, I met her in the gym.

Speaker 1 All right, cool. Once I seen it,

Speaker 1 you was not just on the fucking scrap.

Speaker 1 You wasn't just on that fucking.

Speaker 1 Stop, yo, stop. Now you playing with me now.
Yeah. Now you playing with me now.
Well, a theory's been floated by his bodyguard He did a tweet and delete absolutely love tweet and deletes

Speaker 1 Those are my favorite things that people do messiest shit ever messiest shit ever his name is oh he goes by big Zaka on April 24th he tweeted fuck NDA that's you know non-disclosure agreement fuck NDA that nigga Shannon met his hoe at a Diddy party when she was 17.

Speaker 1 Yikes watch cat back and you'll understand me and watch the cat Williams interview back from 2024. Now again, I don't know if it's true.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about it, but this is another piece of information in response to what you just said.

Speaker 1 Without knowing if it's true,

Speaker 1 just the tweet takes that Cat Williams level to God, that Cat Williams interview to godlike status for me. What's the reference in the...

Speaker 1 I don't know the reference from the cat.

Speaker 1 What he's saying is, watch the Cat Williams Shannon Sharp interview when he was talking about... Puff and the puff parties

Speaker 1 and in relation to meeting white girls and what white women will do to you.

Speaker 1 The Kang conversation that he mentioned, Jonathan Majors.

Speaker 1 Monique kind of had this same conversation with him. I saw that, yeah.
But to say that, that tweet about Cat Williams, that says that Cat Williams is kind of doing this interview knowing about you.

Speaker 1 Because in that, I went to look for it. And Cat is saying, yo, dog, I'm able to speak this way because I know about everything I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I have receipts. I can talk.

Speaker 1 So if you put any validity to the tweet, it's like, all right, Cat Williams know about you and it's playing in your face.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 I didn't catch that reference at first. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's ill.

Speaker 1 That's ill. The next stage of this is more accusations come out.
One, an old accusation is revealed. You know, there was the information that he apparently settled or Fox Sports settled

Speaker 1 a suit with an employee who said that he choked her. Now, his team responded and said it wasn't what it sounded like.

Speaker 1 He didn't choke somebody out in the middle of the job, but that there were some playful physical interactions that happened.

Speaker 1 I guess it would be like if we were tussling at work and somebody decided to sue. Like, if Flip just started choking me while we were wrestling and I decided to sue Flip, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you know what I'm saying? Like, it would be like.

Speaker 1 What'd you say? I think that's page nine.

Speaker 1 Or the contract. Don't do that.
Not the company. And you can't do that with a woman, bro.
No, agree. And we don't know if that's what happened, right? That's his team.

Speaker 1 But the team did say, ask Fox Sports what happened, which you tend not to do unless you're telling the truth. I don't know Fox Sports.
Right. exactly.
Right. Right.
That never works on me.

Speaker 1 Ask such and such. No, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 1 But then there's the accusation from a former girlfriend that's come up of actual sexual assault and stalking.

Speaker 1 So she had a restraining order and everything. Right.

Speaker 1 And when he was at CBS Sports, he was sat down for a moment until the restraining order was lifted. And they sort of let it go.
That's what I'm saying. It's hard for him to get back to ESPN.

Speaker 1 And again, I'm not wishing anything on anybody. But it's hard when you see CBS, Fox, this.
When you see this case, this case, this case.

Speaker 1 It's hard for people to become less willing to believe that this is just a big misunderstanding the third time

Speaker 1 or the fourth time or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 Even the audio of the phone call that when was first released, he made it seem like it was chopped and edited to

Speaker 1 make him look a certain way. Yeah, like he was talking dirty and then she chopped it up and made it look like some other shit.
But it don't sound great.

Speaker 1 It does sound edited, but it don't sound great. And you don't sound sexy.

Speaker 1 I know niggas change their voice for sexy time talk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Come on. Listen, I've been on earth long enough to know that part.
That wasn't Sexy Time voice. I'm going to choke you.
That was the other choke you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to fuck you up. That was the.
How was that? I'm going to fuck you up. Yeah.
You know what you, like, you know what you did. And what it sounds like.
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 1 We telling the truth here. Bro, this is what it sounds like to me, too.
And yo, hold on.

Speaker 1 Oh, go ahead, mommy, be mindful. No, you're not you're gonna take the other side in a horrible situation like i'm not gonna take the other side

Speaker 1 you got two years of being a contract hold up y'all i mean what did the bitch do i'm not taking the other side i just i just i just watch us hold ours to the fire and you know they're the other side you know um they are praised for dating 19 and 20 year olds you know i mean that's just the thing that i've been i've been sitting with like when it comes to us and i point you know we hold them to the fire shannon and

Speaker 1 But when Shannon, we kill Bill Belichick, we don't. Yeah, that's what you're saying.
When Leo and them do it, and it's praise, and

Speaker 1 it's like a thing, it's like an influx, it's like a rotation of it. Like, okay, I met her at 19, now she's 22, I'm going to go for another 19-year-old.

Speaker 1 And people, oh, look at this girl, she's the hot model, or look what we got. And they're taking pictures and stuff like that, which is...

Speaker 1 Understanding, no disrespect to Parks and Poe in y'all culture, probably. I don't know.
But that's just the only thing I've been looking at.

Speaker 1 Of course, also looking at what he's done, young man, she's young, and you're playing around with her. You know, obviously, you miss all the cues and stuff like that.
You're not really in tune.

Speaker 1 You're just out of tune. You can know when you're being recorded, just how certain things are said, certain gaps in the conversation, and you just didn't pay attention.

Speaker 1 For whatever reason, whatever journey or whatever mindset you were in, you know what I mean? Prayers to him. You know what I mean? But you got whatever's coming in, you gotta deal with it.

Speaker 1 Does anyone want to address Flip's first point? I think it was an amazing point. Thank you.

Speaker 1 And I would like to respond to it, but my response is like some of the most ignorant shit I ever thought in my brain. So I'm going to just

Speaker 1 let Mark go first.

Speaker 1 I have two thoughts on it. Come on, Mark.
One, I don't think that all things are the same reversed, right? I think sometimes we do have to look at specific dynamics.

Speaker 1 However, I don't think of, I can't think of any situation where a 54-year-old and a 19-year-old makes sense, regardless of the of the genre.

Speaker 1 Two women, two men, men, women, whatever. I don't care.
I just, it's too, it feels predatory. And I just, I just, nothing a 54-year-old has.
It's just awkward. It's just awkward.
At the least. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bare minimum. Yeah, it just doesn't feel right.
And it makes me wonder.

Speaker 1 It's just, yeah,

Speaker 1 it's fucked up. The second piece of it, though, is I do think that, I think we give white men more leeway on that stuff.
But they do criticize Leonardo and Caprio for it.

Speaker 1 And people do think that Al Pacino is disgusting for having like Bill Belichick. There's been plenty of jokes about all of the above.
They're getting challenged now, but it's jokes, though.

Speaker 1 I was about to say, and that's just jokes. Yeah, like at the Jeff Ross roast, it'll come up as opposed to seeing like criminal.
They're not being held to the stake, though.

Speaker 1 They're not being held to the fire.

Speaker 1 And to be fair, though, if we found out that Bill Belichick was doing some of the things that Shannon is accused of, I think the jokes would be there.

Speaker 1 Jokes and serious conversations would be there in the same way. Same for Leonardo DiCaprio.
Yeah, but who is

Speaker 1 and that's where, and that's what I wanted to say. I'm glad.
Thank you, Parks. You're okay.
unclear. That's what I want to say, right? Like

Speaker 1 if the same thing were happening

Speaker 1 in the other examples, we would look at that. We would look at that a certain way.

Speaker 1 We would. We know evil shit.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is,

Speaker 1 we know evil shit happens on earth. We do.

Speaker 1 As a bystander,

Speaker 1 if you older niggas would like to fuck 19-year-olds,

Speaker 1 then have at it.

Speaker 1 But there's a way to do that so that it stays y'all's business. And me, as a bystander, don't have anything to say about it.

Speaker 1 That's what I was kind of thinking. Like, it sounds the reason we don't really hear, I'm not, I don't know their business.

Speaker 1 There's plenty of these old niggas that's running around getting their rocks off with these 18 and 19-year-old women. We know that.
We know.

Speaker 1 A lot of them niggas doing the same shit that Shannon is accused of doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why we don't know? There is a way that that stuff has to happen.
They're doing the other side of that too.

Speaker 1 For whatever reason,

Speaker 1 when the victim feels like talking now,

Speaker 1 that's where the door gets opened. What else opens up? We don't hear that in a Leo case, a Belichick case.
We ain't heard nobody that they've dated come out and say nothing.

Speaker 1 We see pictures. We see, okay, he's with this young girl.
He's with this young girl, but we see him smiling. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we don't think nothing's wrong. We don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
And we still make jokes.

Speaker 1 We make the jokes here. But in the Shannon case, the details we heard, there is no jokes to make here.

Speaker 1 And I'm not in the business of tearing black men down. So I certainly won't use this opportunity to tear down Shannon.
But I'd be lying if

Speaker 1 I said my position wasn't thinking that he did a fantastic job doing that on his own. It wasn't anybody's place to do that.

Speaker 1 For Shannon to be, Shannon now has to go into one of the greatest falloffs you ever saw.

Speaker 1 Right at the, right at the.

Speaker 1 In the event that you had great things happening for Shannon the way I did. Yeah.
Well, great that they were happening.

Speaker 1 They started to happen. If you got 10 million on the hush on the settlement, then great things are happening.

Speaker 1 This is going down as this is in the fucking worse than Jonathan Majors. This is

Speaker 1 way worse. This is like worse.
This is way worse than Jonathan Major. Jonathan Majors was still ascending.
Jonathan Majors was on the cusp of almost getting there. Shannon had gotten there.
Right.

Speaker 1 No, that's. And then jumped off.
In a second career.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Third, Third, maybe.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because he's been broadcasting for a little bit and then

Speaker 1 so many of his contemporaries, I'm sure, hated him and the trajectory he was on. Yeah.
Yeah. Actually, if I believe, if I believe...

Speaker 1 Well, then there's the Shaq rumors going around about the role that Shaq played. Shaq is New Jersey.
Yep.

Speaker 1 There's heavy.

Speaker 1 Heavy allegations there, so I'm going to choose to skip it. That's not what I do here.

Speaker 1 But if you believe the text messages that are going around

Speaker 1 that she posted or her team posted about all of the media people that Shannon didn't fuck with, yeah, he's definitely not. It was a long list.

Speaker 1 It was a long list.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said, but he did say I'm cordial with them. He's just getting up there talking.

Speaker 1 You just met this girl and tell me that. Are you confiding in the noodle?

Speaker 1 And if you couldn't do that, get the OnlyFans girl whose subscription costs a little more than OnlyFans.

Speaker 1 Because that's the other thing. When you see Bill Belichick and them do it,

Speaker 1 long hair, tall,

Speaker 1 flamingo-like.

Speaker 1 Associate. One of them big fucking Willahilas or whatever the fuck.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Don't just show me that.

Speaker 1 The bitch that's $4 a month that you're confident in. No, that's not how this goes.

Speaker 1 Why do we do that? Can y'all break that down? Because I feel like. Well, if the subscription is for?

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, what part you was talking about?

Speaker 1 Sometimes they do the special, you know. Yeah, the bundle.

Speaker 1 Remember in Jungle Fever when

Speaker 1 Jungle Fever, when Sam Jackson was talking about black men, white women, he was like, when a white man get a black woman, she's a penthouse pet.

Speaker 1 When a black man get a white woman, she's a outhouse pet.

Speaker 1 His whole point was

Speaker 1 we reach so far below when they're a white woman in terms of attractiveness, in terms of all that stuff. Why the fuck do you? And that seems to be the pattern.

Speaker 1 Like, as long as they're white, we happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what it be. Is it that same thing? You just want to get them a white chick.

Speaker 1 They go for the middest of the mid-pack. I'm not going to do that.
A lot of these... Fair enough.
We're going to tell the truth. No, I'm not debating though.
We're telling the truth.

Speaker 1 A lot of these niggas run around just to say, I got my white.

Speaker 1 I got my white. I don't care what it looked like.
Right.

Speaker 1 You got mediocre. I agree with that.
I'm just saying that. That's not going to be my position with him.
No, we're not saying he's asking the question in general.

Speaker 1 And that is what happens a lot of the time. Niggas just be so glad to get a white chick, they don't care what she looks like.
Trash, she seemed to be fitting.

Speaker 1 I don't think he would have

Speaker 1 a bag, hot, a hotter, white chick

Speaker 1 for all. Like, I ain't a single party.
I don't want to jungle fever this sound, nigga. It's niggas that date bad white joints.
Yeah, fire.

Speaker 1 It's times where I stepped out and the chick across from me was the bad white joints.

Speaker 1 You got him, nigga.

Speaker 1 Hey, you got to say,

Speaker 1 Rebecca.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 yo, Sarah. Hey, Vanilla.
Hey. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He might have had them. We never saw this chick with him.
You didn't.

Speaker 1 We don't, but they play the game. They know what they're doing.
They ain't said nothing. We didn't know this chick existed until she started talking.
Nigga, Michelle didn't sound like she was hot.

Speaker 1 She didn't sound like she was hot. Yeah, she could have been hot.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that tape didn't sound like what I'm saying. And I'm moving the goalpost now.
I'm just saying when you of a certain ilk, certain behaviors have to stop.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck how you was raised. I don't care how you grew up.
Some of these niggas grew up with that dark-skinned, ugly nigga complex. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And some of them was shooting at the right hoop and it just didn't go their way.

Speaker 1 So now in their little white school that they went to or all the white trails that they went through to become a successful athlete, now you just in whiteland.

Speaker 1 So whether that be the bad one or the mid one, that's just where you at. You're not even shooting the sisters no more.

Speaker 1 But Shannon could have got him shit for the money that this little white girl was talking about. Yeah.
Y'all acting like this is the only white girl. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 We don't know what he had. She's just the one talking.
Well,

Speaker 1 that's why I'm only addressing her. Whoever else he got,

Speaker 1 for lack of a better term, is covert. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's in silence.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to say when you're moving in silence. As we should be.
Whatever your kink, what if you're into some wild, kinky, freak boy shit,

Speaker 1 it should be in silence.

Speaker 1 That's when they start doing all the NBAs. Yo, the celebrity sex clubs in LA where you have to hand in your passport and sign the application and it's super, super secretive.

Speaker 1 Like there's ways to do it.

Speaker 1 You just bugging the fuck out. Yes.
Yeah. I get too much money.
And have the means to do the fly shit. And yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You can't do that if you know you have a nine-figure negotiation negotiation in front of you.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to make this all about the money, but at some point, we just got to use our fucking heads here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, I agree. If I'm wilding,

Speaker 1 when it's negotiation time, I stopped.

Speaker 1 It's that simple.

Speaker 1 If I smoke weed when it's piss test time, I stopped. I stopped.
Yeah. It's not that fucking deep.

Speaker 1 And you niggas is portraying yourselves as fucking media mavens and geniuses and slip up at the worst possible spots. And it's sad to fucking see.
It is. It is.
It is sad. It's sad.

Speaker 1 To your piss test theory, oh, your piss test example, some of them

Speaker 1 been getting away with it. Some of them drink all.

Speaker 1 Not even. They go get the tea.

Speaker 1 I got some piss for you. Or I've got a good talk game.
And I could talk to him. All right, all right.
I'm going to let you go this time. I'm not going to do it.
I've been getting away with this.

Speaker 1 So I don't think nothing bad is going to come from it. Right.
Until it happens. And it's like, oh, shit, now I done fucked up.

Speaker 1 well if i was playing the odds a 19 year old white girl wouldn't be the odds i would play to not get in trouble yeah detox yeah yeah man go date somebody your age or not far from it when you 56 dog you got the whole 40 and ups it's 40 and ups out there 35 35 is perfect yo if you got 25 000 per cheek if you got it like that yo dog you do not have to fuck little tiny alice yeah but you know what though it's the same thing when we had the Tracy Ellis conversation.

Speaker 1 And I said, to me, it sounded like she wanted to do some shit to people that the older niggas might not have been with.

Speaker 1 Some of them older chicks ain't going for the shit that he want.

Speaker 1 You got to get somebody that

Speaker 1 he was into some wild shit.

Speaker 1 Going by her message. Can we talk about some of that wild shit for a minute? Sure.
Sure, please.

Speaker 1 And then we'll go to an ad.

Speaker 1 I'm downing. I'm kink shaming.
I know I said we don't kink sham. That's off the table.
I am. I'm kink shaming now.

Speaker 1 I saw your tweet, and I agree with it so much because you said you were talking about kink shaming. And I was like, yeah, generally I don't.

Speaker 1 But slave play in particular, and this isn't technically slave play, but it's in that genre. It's in the realm.
You know, even a text message, I want you to put a big black baby in me.

Speaker 1 Once people start talking like that to a black person and they're not black, it's going down a certain lane. Yes.

Speaker 1 And that seemed to be the type of time he was on, as far as like wanting certain kinds of sex, we talked to a certain way, to treat her a certain kind of way.

Speaker 1 And like you said, if you got that big black buck complex, then you feel like you're getting a little bit of

Speaker 1 some get back

Speaker 1 by tossing the girl from Cinnabon around and shit. So niggas watching Roseboy.

Speaker 1 I think there's a misconception that when we say, or when I say the ministry for us, I don't kink shame, that you're admonishing all rules that come along with having a kink.

Speaker 1 And that's not what I'm saying. No.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to kink shame. Because I don't kink shame.
That's not in my ministry. Whatever gets your dick going or your vagina going behind closed doors is your business.

Speaker 1 And I can't tell you nothing about it, no matter how egregious it may seem to me. However,

Speaker 1 you shouldn't text your kink.

Speaker 1 I shouldn't know your kink. Yeah.
Texting a kink is very...

Speaker 1 Now you've entered the world of legalities.

Speaker 1 Now you've entered the world of public opinion.

Speaker 1 It's almost like that unwritten rule of, or joke in my household, of, hey, whatever we say during sexy time, you can't wake up in the morning and start talking to me what the fuck I said when

Speaker 1 the no, no, no, you can't do that. No, that's against that's

Speaker 1 that ain't law.

Speaker 1 That was in passion, nigga. That was in the whole thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know if we're here to get it right.

Speaker 1 I feel ashamed, nigga. It's like a vampire, nigga.

Speaker 1 I start, my body started to burn. All that shit, yeah, I don't want it in there.
All that shit I said, nigga, that was in the moment. I was horribly

Speaker 1 hardy. Yeah, I'm sorry.
That was Holy Torr.

Speaker 1 Talking about that. Yeah, so I just think he broke a lot of rules that and he just old Joe.
He said, oh, and he old. Older is supposed to mean wiser.
No, not for everybody. Not for everyone.

Speaker 1 Not for everybody, though. It's supposed to.
And on top of that, like, I feel, I'm not blaming anyone. I just feel

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 I think them football niggas got a different type of aggression. And just because you stopped playing football don't mean that it's like aggression goes away.

Speaker 1 I always refer back to ghost uh power season one where every time ghost went and killed somebody he went and fucked Angela or his wife with a different type of dick having visions of the murder like that was telling the story I believe that to be true though I've never killed anybody

Speaker 1 I could see football players having to still get that shit off when they not on the field yeah yeah especially if you and I'm not talking about Shannon now if you are putting certain things in your body if you're juicing you don't know what effects other things are having

Speaker 1 we've seen retired football players you know

Speaker 1 snap yeah

Speaker 1 with a lot of aggression and then it's cte and it's stuff like that like we we see this we've seen a whole pattern of this so yeah they do have that aggression way after leaving the game and back to ryan kugler's point this don't happen if you don't invite him in

Speaker 1 that's it yeah yeah this don't happen if you don't invite him in and invite him in for real i saw a preview of a football movie too with marlon wayne's uh

Speaker 1 the the movie. I don't support him.

Speaker 1 Marlon Wayne. It's not Marlon Wayne.
I don't support

Speaker 1 the appeal. Oh, you don't support him? I don't.
Nope. Y'all got beef? No.
I don't got beef with him. I just don't.
Stylistically, I'm not into it.

Speaker 1 His name to me says no. When I see his name on it, I'm cool.
His name is.

Speaker 1 You got to kill me. I'm not going to lie.
Sitters was like a Jordan Peel, but like. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 1 I was about to say, I think that's an insult to Ron Kugler, but I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Yeah, explain that to me later. That's my point.

Speaker 1 Explain it it to me later of why I don't, because that I don't know what to say. He just fooled me too many times.
That's all.

Speaker 1 He just fooled me too many times. There's black people that pull on the equity differently.

Speaker 1 There's black people that use their Hollywood green light to tell other stories. Okay.

Speaker 1 I like Jordan Pills. And maybe lean on the blackness.
And maybe lean on the blackness for marketing

Speaker 1 or a very surface-level, low-hanging fruit type of storyline in terms of societal norms and racism and historically, yada yada yada yada okay it was nothing but nuance and substance and culture in that in that ryan coogler shit yeah somebody somebody that just breathed by the culture can't do it you can't fake it it's back to the kendrick drick point that i'm leaving but but that's what i'm trying to say that's what you're saying that's what it is that's what ryan coogler versus jordan pee is

Speaker 1 for me like i didn't rush to all that jordan pee like any jordan pee movie that you did like joe any jordan any jordan pill movie that you liked initially i'm sure he had one get out

Speaker 1 and then went down

Speaker 1 i like the aliens one with um what's it i like that one nope i hated the uh oh nope yeah i ain't with that either i like that one absolutely hated nope i hated i hated that i hated that i hated i think i always hate it out too

Speaker 1 Whatever the one is where they ended up holding hands at the end,

Speaker 1 that was horrible. And us, I hate, that's probably one of my worst movies ever, but really it was, and I can admit it, it was the marketing behind the movie that like it set a

Speaker 1 expectation going into it yeah and when i saw the movie i'm like okay y'all y'all are bullshitting with me this is like

Speaker 1 yeah he's on the list yeah yeah yeah jordan poole and him are on the same list to me yeah and i feel like all those are the same movies a little bit a little bit get out was my favorite thing that jordan pill introduced me to was the slowing down of hip-hop classics to make it sound like some freddy krueger anthem and that was working for us because that alone was everybody stole that every get out i love it get out was with the guy escaping from the white people that was trying to have a child in the basement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it.
Sunken place. Sunken place.
I thought that was, that's my favorite one.

Speaker 1 That was amazing. But his stuff feels a little didactic at times.
Like, it feels very heavy-handed and like

Speaker 1 there's just no subtlety to it. You remember like with Dobi Admission? Like, message.
Sometimes I feel like that's what he's doing. Whereas with,

Speaker 1 I'm talking about appeal, but with Ryan Koogler, it's the exact opposite. Like, that buddy guy scene was probably the most didactic of the whole thing.
And that happened as a post script.

Speaker 1 The rest of the film was subtle and smooth and I don't feel like I get that sometimes. It feels it just feels like too much.

Speaker 1 And it feels like Twitter banter sometimes is films for me. Like it feels like how people who talk about race on Twitter.
Exactly. Like the biracials are going to be a bit more.

Speaker 1 So not speaking on behalf of us.

Speaker 1 What he thinks is. Yeah, he is.
He's us. He thinks he is.
And he's doing that with some people. Got it.
Okay. Yeah.
It's a certain kind of person. Can I ask you a rich person question related to

Speaker 1 you rich, nigga? Answer it. I'm not.
From the rich person to rich person. That's why you got to answer it then, nigga.
This is from the poorest to the rich people.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not gonna do that. When you hear the question, you let us from the rich to the river.
I wrote down your block the other day. You ain't wrote down my block.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, though.

Speaker 1 No, Mark living at the good side of Jane. He don't have blocks.
I know New Jersey.

Speaker 1 I know where. I rolled in that area the other day.
Nah, nah, nah. We don't let y'all in.

Speaker 1 I would have gotten an alert.

Speaker 1 Citizens at some other shit, nigga.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Shannon Sharp acknowledged, his attorney acknowledged that they offered up to $10 million as a settlement. What? Up to $10 million? He said tens of millions.
So that could have been $20 million.

Speaker 1 That's the crap. So strategically, that feels crazy to me because to me, what the public hears when they say, I offered her $10 million is

Speaker 1 I did something wrong.

Speaker 1 You give away a million as a nuisance, right? If I'm looking, let's assume he's really looking at 100 M's, right?

Speaker 1 You'll do a million for a nuisance suit because you don't want no problems. Dog, I will do 10, 15.
If I'm looking at 100 M. If it's a real 100 M's, and you fuck this hundred up,

Speaker 1 what do I?

Speaker 1 Oh, you ask his question.

Speaker 1 I guess I'm asking. I'm going to speak for me from this.
What's the number

Speaker 1 that makes you say,

Speaker 1 I don't care if I didn't do it,

Speaker 1 I'm still not spending this much money.

Speaker 1 It's all relative to how much you make. Okay.

Speaker 1 And how much is that risk? It's all relative to how much you make and will make. Yes.
That's what I was saying. So then did he misplay this? Because it seems to me,

Speaker 1 if she's, let's say she was asked for 20.

Speaker 1 In retrospect, should he just give it up to 20?

Speaker 1 That's when your niggardom kicks in.

Speaker 1 Because you'll read something

Speaker 1 and you don't feel like you've done too much, too much this crazy. You'll live with the results.
You read something, you're like, 20 million?

Speaker 1 No, I don't, that's not in my mind, body.

Speaker 1 I have a bunch of fears.

Speaker 1 It's the same shit shit we talked about with Puff and Cassie.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's a good example. Where it was in hindsight.
Well, it's a bad example because in the arts that we're talking about, the person is innocent.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying in hindsight. The Cassie shit, he knew what the fuck.

Speaker 1 He knew what it was. Cool.
And he still said no. That's a different type of arrogance.
Yeah, that's the next level.

Speaker 1 We're talking about just making the right decision, not in your arrogance and your pride and your ego.

Speaker 1 This still sounds like arrogance. And to be clear, I'm not suggesting he's innocent, just in this hypothetical.
Well, yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 In the hypothetical, if you didn't do, because that's what keeps going, that's the question that keeps going around. If you're innocent, why would you pay $10 million? Why would you offer

Speaker 1 it right? And if you've never been in this situation, then, and if you've never sniffed that type of coin, then no, it's not going to make sense to you.

Speaker 1 There's not many people out there listening that can relate to being, to having nine figures on the table in the coming months. You know what they can relate to? I didn't do this crime.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to ask you to do that. But they're saying, you take it to trial, you're looking at this, or you take the plea and you take this.

Speaker 1 And a lot of niggas will take that plea on an innocent because the other side is just too,

Speaker 1 it's too costly on the other side. It's true in the world of criminality.
I haven't entered that world. I'm still in business politics.
That's what I was going to say. I'm not in criminal anymore.

Speaker 1 There are people that

Speaker 1 were completely innocent, not in the criminal world that took the plea because they're telling them. You mean like they settle? Yes, it's a settlement.
It's the same thing. It's a settlement.

Speaker 1 It's a different settlement in the world of criminality trading time versus trading your coin is what i'm going to keep focusing on they say to you in this world

Speaker 1 listen i've been i i and when i was going through something like this

Speaker 1 they said

Speaker 1 yo can't nobody tell you what to do in this situation but you because you're the only one that knows how much you make and how much you will make get take all emotions out of it it don't matter who's right and it don't matter who's wrong we're only doing math right now Right.

Speaker 1 And once that was said,

Speaker 1 well, it changes the whole scope. Yeah, that's why I think Shannon did bad math.
I think ego gets into it.

Speaker 1 20 million is a lot of money if you feel like you're innocent and you were just on some BDSM, consensual section. 10 million is a lot to dig in your pocket and give somebody.

Speaker 1 And that's where somebody was supposed to tell you,

Speaker 1 cool, consensual BDSM shit, we here now.

Speaker 1 This noise that she's making, that $100 million on the table, and the next one, that $250 that might come down the line, this could cost you that. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 So now weigh those numbers. Weigh this $10 million here versus $350 million here.
He makes $6.7 million, I believe, a year at ESPN. I think that's the estimate.
It's somewhere in that neighborhood.

Speaker 1 Give or take a $100,000 here.

Speaker 1 He's looking at a

Speaker 1 $100 million contract, and he's relatively young for media. He could have made a quarter of a billion dollars before he died.

Speaker 1 And by not spending that 10 or whatever the number is 20, whatever, he may have cost himself all of that money. And that's where a real advisor comes in and shows you what's really at risk here.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 You're right, but the reality of it was,

Speaker 1 and I hate to say this because I'm rooting for him to do as great as he could. The reality of it was he was probably shooting high for the 100.
So

Speaker 1 let's chop it in half. Let's say he landed at 50.
Now that 10 million looks different. Yeah.
Yeah. Because after taxes, that's 25, and now you're giving 10 of it.

Speaker 1 That looks like

Speaker 1 all my chips to the table to try to get this out the way or keep it low until I secure my deal. That's real.
That's real. And that might have been his calculation.

Speaker 1 And who knows what she was actually asking for? Because

Speaker 1 the fact that. I don't care what she was asking for.
I care about what he offered. You offered 10?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's wild. Speaks volumes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a lot. See,

Speaker 1 when we were recording last time, I had only heard that from her attorney. But that came from his attorney.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got to look at this totally different. Yeah, which again, bad strategy.
But anyway, I just, and mediation costs a lot of money. I'm curious to know if they attempted that.

Speaker 1 Wasn't that number offered in mediation?

Speaker 1 That's I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that.
You might be right. I didn't hear that.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear in mediation, but we can check that. Yeah.
My God.

Speaker 1 But mediation costs money. These attorneys cost money.
And when you're in these settlement talks, they tell you the longer this goes,

Speaker 1 it's only bad for the person that makes the money.

Speaker 1 Like the longer this goes, it's only bad for you.

Speaker 1 And in the event that you lose and it only take one person for you to lose, then you paying me and you paying her attorneys and you paying her attorneys as well. Yeah.
Like you just start doing math.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. My phone.

Speaker 1 You just start having, you start doing math and

Speaker 1 it becomes a lot.

Speaker 1 davis was his his attorney also said sharp was willing to pay at least 10 million in a settlement for the accuser's silence the two were amid mediation prior to the lawsuit being filed so that's for mediation that's from mediation wow so we already here so there must be a lot because i i talked to a i talked to my brother who who does uh the one who hey frasier the other one

Speaker 1 the one who represents frasier's yeah

Speaker 1 hey man yo yo he's an attorney i'm picking up for frasier i don't fuck with mark beef dollars anyway

Speaker 1 and uh i asked him i said what do you think this would be worth to a jury based on the information we have right now?

Speaker 1 He said, probably, he said, I will be trying to get somewhere around two to five million as an outcome.

Speaker 1 And when I see these kinds of cases, I don't see people get, let's assume Shannon's guilty of everything.

Speaker 1 I don't see him getting $20 million from a jury.

Speaker 1 So I'm wondering what she was, what her game plan is. Because most people will take $10 million when you don't have any money and you look at a $10 million payoff.
And again, I'm not...

Speaker 1 Could be something more in there. And that's my point.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking there has to be a whole lot more in there or there's a lot of embarrassing stuff that isn't guilt or innocence but that he just doesn't want the world to know more text more stories more change i mean something more in there in terms of there's a bigger goal here not just not just to get money oh what are you thinking like to get famous no we need to take this all the way through to end him

Speaker 1 and whatever money we get from the jury is just what we get got it Like there's a bigger plan here. Got you.
Yeah, I don't look at it like that either, right? Like at this point,

Speaker 1 when one person is playing with house money, and this is where the lawyer games start to come into play, because you have the Busbees of the world and the likes of him going to victims and saying, no matter how long this takes, it's not going to cost you a dime.

Speaker 1 And if we lose, it's not going to cost you a dime. That's what the lawyers are.
Yeah, so now there's nothing to lose here.

Speaker 1 And I think you can get way more than this 10. I think the floor that we're looking at is 25.
Jesus. Wow.

Speaker 1 So then you got one side that appears a little unrealistic, but rightfully so,

Speaker 1 and one side that's working with whatever they're working with, and it's just, it's just a clash. It's tough.
It's tough.

Speaker 1 Again, good luck to all parties and all prayers to the victims. I'm sure we'll hear more.
Here, and more will be revealed, as they say.

Speaker 1 My last question to you:

Speaker 1 Does this legitimize Busby at all for you? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, because... Broken clock is right twice a day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Got it.
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Speaker 1 With that being said, all is right in the universe. Got me a call.

Speaker 1 Gotta make a phone call.

Speaker 1 Gotta make a phone call.

Speaker 1 All is right again in the universe. Want to see if my good friend and

Speaker 1 Jared Jack will answer his phone. Me and him have been doing this thing where we talk after every game.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yo, this is Joe Budden. May I speak to Jared Jack, please?

Speaker 1 This is him.

Speaker 1 What do you have to say for yourself? All is back right in the world

Speaker 1 all is back right all is back right home court is restored where it's supposed to be

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 big bodega bitched y'all around y'all ain't y'all y'all didn't want to fight when your man beef stew ain't around y'all ain't so tough huh

Speaker 1 right you stepped and then uh

Speaker 1 will you be that game

Speaker 1 you breaking up You breaking up, Jared Jack. Go to the good side of the house so we can hear what you got to say about the pissed-ons.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Oh, shit.
I can't hear what you got to say about the pissed-ons.

Speaker 1 Damn, it looks like we've lost our connection with Jared Jack. Hello.
And I ain't Pat McCabe, so I don't know if we'll get him back.

Speaker 1 Hello. There you go.
Hey.

Speaker 1 We good. We good.
We good. What's up, bro? What you got to say for yourself? Hey, man, very entertaining game last game.

Speaker 1 We,

Speaker 1 you know, had some hicknes that that we're going to clean up. We're right here in practice.
I don't

Speaker 1 conform. I look forward to writing.

Speaker 1 Looks like you guys were introduced to the NBA Clutch Player of the Year.

Speaker 1 Who is that? You talking about Mr. Brunson? It looks like you guys had a good, firm understanding on why Mr.
Brunson won NBA Clutch Player of the Year amongst all that cage chatter that was going on.

Speaker 1 It's over, yo. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I lost him. Damn, man, I lost him.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 all is back right in the world. The Knicks are up to one.

Speaker 1 The Giants had an amazing first round of the NFL draft.

Speaker 1 What would you guys like to get to the draft? Shador Sanders, is it racism?

Speaker 1 The Giants had a great first round? Yes. Because I saw the report card shit.
They gave him a D. I don't know.
I don't know what it means. I don't know where you saw that.

Speaker 1 Abdul Carter was, for some people, the number one. Travis was also.

Speaker 1 I don't know where you saw that freeze. Abdul Carter is a freeze.
Most publications give us an A, not an A plus, but I'm not getting mine from that.

Speaker 1 I'm getting mine from just having eyes and a little bit of football knowledge. Like Park said, Abdul Carter was ranked as the number one player on some boards.
He was just injured last year.

Speaker 1 He's coming off an injury. If the Titans don't need a quarterback,

Speaker 1 if the teams ahead of the Giants don't need a quarterback, Abdul Carter probably comes off the board first or second.

Speaker 1 And forget about that. You now have a front line of Thibodeau, Dexter Lawrence,

Speaker 1 Brian Burns, and now Abdul Carter. That's a nice D-line.
That has to sound like terror. Yeah, that's a nice D-line.
I don't care what happens on offense now,

Speaker 1 but now you still go and trade two third-rounders, I think, to move up to the first round to get your quarterback of the future, which is Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 Some people say that should have been Shador,

Speaker 1 but I thought it should have been Shador as well. However, the scouting report on Jackson Dart seems Josh Allen-ish is what they say.
Big guy that likes to just gun sling it and toss it around.

Speaker 1 They say we got the white version of Jameis Winston. That's what they're saying.
I don't know enough about them to say, but I know the Giants are not drafting a black quarterback.

Speaker 1 I'm shocked we even have two black quarterbacks in our quarterback room. Yeah, y'all got the black Jameis Winston too, right? We got Jameis Winston.
We got Russell Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 We got DeVito, our Italian leader.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we got Jackson Dart. Must be nice to have a quarterback.
The Giants had a really, really, really amazing first round. I can't wait to see that D-line in person.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we still got picks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We still got picks. I'm happy we won Dolphins.
We picked

Speaker 1 Kenny Grant, who's a monster D-tackle. He's like 6'4 ⁇ , 350 and ran like a 4'8.
I saw clips of him running down a running back 20 yards down the field.

Speaker 1 Okay, how did my Eagles do?

Speaker 1 They did. They picked up West Moment, the linebacker from Alabama, who's really good.

Speaker 1 They always fucked up. How is the best in the game? So

Speaker 1 I just always assumed that the Eagles did the best. That's what I was hoping for.
What's my man? I got it right.

Speaker 1 And after that, Jalen Carter pick. Jihad Campbell.
He's nice. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 football question, because again, I don't know, I know very little about that. I'm sorry, y'all.
I'm getting

Speaker 1 us. We're having one of the best episodes of the year.
Someone's interrupting us. Hello? Hey, man, I just want to let you know I'm not running for the smoke.
That's what it looks like.

Speaker 1 What do you think about the backcourt heard around the world?

Speaker 1 I think the explanation that was told to us was new. We've never heard of that until me either.
I love when a fake rule leans in favor of your team. The momentum carrying you over half court.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 You're going to take that? You like that? I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it.
Listen, man, good luck. Y'all had a good year.
We're going to make this thing 3-1.

Speaker 1 We're going to make this thing 3-1 by the next time I speak to you.

Speaker 1 And then we'll see what happens from there. But you boys definitely had a good time.
At game two,

Speaker 1 when I went to the concession stand to get my seafood, I saw a nigga that looked exactly like Tobias Harris standing behind me. What do you know?

Speaker 1 Who would have thought Tobias Harris's brothers look exactly like Tobias Harris, had a great talk with them, and I'm phony. So I said, yo, tell your brother I love him.

Speaker 1 I love what he's doing. Follow him on the Graham.
That's my brother's. Just not today.
I love Tobias Harris. That's my brother.
Even though I did kick his back in when he was on the Sixers.

Speaker 1 We talked about that too.

Speaker 1 I did too.

Speaker 1 But listen, man, y'all did good, Jarrett. Y'all did good.

Speaker 1 Stop speaking in passing to me. That's disrespectful.
But all right, all right, all right, but all right, I'll stop speaking to you like that if you just say this with me real quick.

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna do that. His name is Jalen Brunson.
I will not repeat those words. Come on, please.
No, no, thank you. His name is Jalen Brunson.
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all even pulled out some Detroit celebrities trying to have like an aura, trying to have atmosphere. I seen Chris Webb in the building.
Oh, I see. Shinard's out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I I see Jalen Rose out there. Who else was out there? I seen a couple bad bitches.

Speaker 1 Y'all trying to have some aura out there? I like that. Hey, don't don't hate on our court side, dog.
Just make sure you know the seating chart for when we come back up there.

Speaker 1 Hey, we squashed it.

Speaker 1 Me and Fifth is good now.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, man. Y'all unified for the Knicks.
Ain't that cute? Yo, listen to this. Let me tell you this before we hang up.
A lot of New York niggas heading to Game Four, I spoke to to wean

Speaker 1 it's gonna be a lot of new york niggas at at game four in the pistons stadium i mean in the pistons palace tell them to come on through tell them to come in tell them to break tell them to behave though come have a cone

Speaker 1 come have a come have a cone on y'all what do you think hey man we with it we with it hey hey i might see y'all for game five i got

Speaker 1 my man love you boy All right, peace. Peace.

Speaker 1 I love when people don't run from the, don't run from it. If you can do shit when you win,

Speaker 1 answer the call when you lose. That's our boy, Jared Jack, friend of the show.
We love him. And again, shout out to the Pistons for all they've done, but we're going to take good care of them.

Speaker 1 Before we go to football, there's a basketball theme that came up too, since we're talking to Hoop real quick. Oh, let's do it.
The NBA Players Association, NBA players, rather, do their voting.

Speaker 1 You always get the players' versions, like MVP, most improved, etc. They rank the league's most overrated player.
All the NBA players vote. 90 votes.
90 NBA players voted. It's a significant number.

Speaker 1 That's not a lot. I mean, it's only 12 on each team.
It's 425 players. It's 90.
It's not even half. Yeah, it's 25% of the league.
I mean, shit, I think that's a good sample, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Let's see. I wish they all voted.

Speaker 1 Most, by far, the most overrated player in the NBA by the player's assessment, Tyrese Halliburton. Damn.
Wow. Interesting.
I thought that was super interesting. They might be right.
Oh, cool.

Speaker 1 That's them saying that he not like that. Exactly.
It's not that he's not nice. Okay.
But you're not. He's not like that.
It's not what they make you. You're not.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because number two was Rudy Gobert,

Speaker 1 which is a consistent thing she was saying. I'm rolling.
Tyrese Halliburton got 14.4%.

Speaker 1 Of the 90 votes. Yeah.
Rudy Gobert got 10%. Under him was Trey Young at 9%.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. No, no, they didn't.
Then to Joe's point, once you get to the 3% and 2%, to me, that's just two or three people saying they don't like you. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Because after that was Jimmy Butler, Bradley Beal, who I think might be right too. Draymond, John Morant, Julius Randall, there's Joe Morant.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
John. Again, some of it is the, you're not like that.
Like, if you're projected to be a superstar and they're like, yeah, maybe he's not a superstar. 14% out of the 90s, 12 people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 And while we're here,

Speaker 1 let me say again for the second or third year in a row, I absolutely hate what the NBA has done to the most improved player award. Yeah, you've been on that since y'all won it.

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous now. You don't like it when like the stars get when you go from like year one to year two of like a superstar.
You want it to be like the more of like a

Speaker 1 Cade Cade is is is

Speaker 1 projected to win. Oh, yeah, that's stupid.
I don't like that either. I don't like that.
He's up for the finalists in the most improved.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and if you've seen any Cleveland Cavalier game this year, then that white boy that comes off the bench that they'll probably give sixth man of the year should also win most improved player of the year.

Speaker 1 If you know his story and you see what they're doing, they damn near

Speaker 1 number one in the East.

Speaker 1 60 something wins out of nowhere nobody projected that like come on stop playing with him that's how it was back in the day cate is a number one pick yeah most improved didn't used to go to superstars when they go when stars become superstars used to be guys who you didn't expect and names we didn't know didn't know

Speaker 1 right yeah all right so uh football football break it down for me y'all i don't understand this i saw please all year people telling me shador sanders was going to be maybe a top five pick then i heard one from number one to top five to top ten

Speaker 1 as of this recording he hasn't been drafted yet they had a full first day of drafting he doesn't get drafted and i see reports on the internet some people saying it's because he's a quote-unquote thug or because they don't like his style or his attitude then i see other people saying that it's all a roost and he's just not that good he's overrated and and the gms know that and i don't know anything about football so i have no idea what's true i think there's a little spruce of a little bit of both things have some levels of truth to them.

Speaker 1 I think that this quarterback class was pretty widely regarded as not as strong as previous quarterback classes. I think in other years, Shador would have definitely been a second-round pick.

Speaker 1 I do think that he is a good quarterback. I also do think that he and his family have clout and can kind of pick where they go.

Speaker 1 So they may have went to interviews with certain teams and gave a bad interview on purpose. Gotcha.
Like, I don't want to be in wherever fill in the black.

Speaker 1 I heard he totally shitted the Giants interview. Yeah.
Really? I heard that. I've heard that too.
So then when the Giants trade up and you're there, it's like, okay, you're not on that list.

Speaker 1 You don't want to come here. You don't want to be here.
And not just that, that word gets out. Like.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Small business. Yeah.
So now other people are like, oh, this is how you moving?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I think that it's a little bit of both.
I think that he is a good quarterback, and I think he will probably develop into a good NFL quarterback. Like a starter?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he'd be a starter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 His comp is to a. A second and third round pick is a starter.
You should be, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It may take him a while to get used to the game. i guess one of the knocks on him is like on some madden shit when you run backwards trying to evade some tackles and get the sack

Speaker 1 that happens to him a lot but he does have good accuracy and timing he's got some things to work on okay and i think some teams are turned off by the whole sanders experience for better or worse i think it's more of that i think i think both things can be true but i think the teams being turned off by the flashiness and the sanders shit is is weighing more on it for him there are teams a the steelers who absolutely need a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I thought he was going there. When I saw him make it past, I was getting off a plane with the AirPod in, and as soon as I saw pick nine and he wasn't picked,

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm looking at the rest of the teams, they all got quarterbacks. I'm like, we're 21.

Speaker 1 Yes, I've been saying forever, I've been telling y'all, I want a young quarterback.

Speaker 1 I don't want one of these old washed-up niggas who on his way out the league. I give a young quarterback a shot and let him develop with the team.
Shit almost ruined your whole PJ experience.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Economy.
Shit. Almost ruined the whole jet and shit.

Speaker 1 Economy. Economy, John.
Yeah, economy.

Speaker 1 Economy Jet.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I'm just like, once I saw that, I said, okay, to me, it was just something a little bit more implied. I will say the Browns have two picks in the top four of the second round.

Speaker 1 I would expect him probably to maybe go to one of those.

Speaker 1 If he doesn't get drafted in the top half of the second round or in the second round at all, are we then willing to say this is not about football? It's not about football.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's about football. Yeah, it's not about football.

Speaker 1 I'm on the side of everything that you hear is true. Okay.
Everything that you hear is true. All sides of it.

Speaker 1 The racism in football, the history, and in terms of the Lamar Jacksons and the yada, yada, yada, all of that's there.

Speaker 1 Talent-wise, all of that could be true.

Speaker 1 Projection-wise, you're not the tallest, you're not the arm strength.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 This was a weak quarterback class. Next year is projected to be a really strong quarterback class.
Next two years, yeah.

Speaker 1 Everything that people are saying is true. Yeah.
Except for the weak family, Deion Sanders, what comes with that.

Speaker 1 Nobody's wrong. And I mean, let's keep it a buck.
Like,

Speaker 1 all that extra shit he did for the draft, people don't want that. What was he doing? He got a whole custom draft room built with all of this shit in there, all the teams.
Oh, shit. Like, it was a lot.

Speaker 1 You can't make a draft room if you're not in the first round.

Speaker 1 I could see him go to New Orleans at eight in the second round, too, actually. That would make sense.
With

Speaker 1 a less than ideal arm strength being in a dome for a majority of your games. Oh.
Yeah, you want him in a dome. Yeah, I could see that being that.

Speaker 1 And whoever's getting them is getting them at great values. Absolutely.
Oh, absolutely. Getting them absolutely great values is going to be a hell of a pick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I hate that this celebratory moment for this guy has turned into the, oh, what a letdown. You didn't get picked in the first round.
No, you had a light. See, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I also don't think that that's entirely maybe the case.

Speaker 1 I don't know the family, obviously, but I think internally they may have somewhere that they want to go and are not mad that they didn't end up having to go to Cleveland or where would they want to go if you're if you're I would imagine the Sanders family would love something like Dallas.

Speaker 1 I could see New Orleans being something that would maybe I don't know the again, I don't know them, they may have somewhere that they love as a family

Speaker 1 market or you think

Speaker 1 a combination of market and city they are more informed

Speaker 1 than the parents of the kid who haven't gone through any of this NFL shit. Right.
Usually they drafted. They have more intel.
That makes sense. Okay.

Speaker 1 And more pull. Yeah.
To be like, no, we're not, if you draft us like what happened with Eli back in the day,

Speaker 1 we've seen other teams happen like Jenga. Gentle to the Raiders has fucked up my entire fantasy plan right now.
I have no idea what's going on. Why?

Speaker 1 Because it's always the one rookie running back that you know is going to get a heavy load that's going to be projected top four in fantasy to throw off the whole first round of fantasy yeah somebody girl there too yeah yeah he's going to cook it's going to be a little tricky it is um push your door though i i once i saw this happen i'm just like it makes me root for him more though for sure now i want you to wherever you go i want you to kill it i want you to pay i think lamar jackson again yeah we watched all y'all skip me and now y'all are gonna pay not saying he has the same talent But I'm just saying I'm rooting for him even more now.

Speaker 1 He is an entertaining football player at the very least. He's a good football player.

Speaker 1 I think if he ends up in a team that he likes, in a coach that he likes, in a city that he likes, he will absolutely thrive.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm rooting for him.
And again, I think that he's got the pull to make that happen.

Speaker 1 And I think some of these other teams know he ain't going to

Speaker 1 work out. So we're not going to waste it.
It's going to do tackle or whatever. But it's definitely some racism.

Speaker 1 Probably, yeah. There's always racism with black quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 But when it comes to the NFL, right, like Mark just said, if we're talking NFL, racism is at play.

Speaker 1 And I don't think you get to conveniently pull the card because if we're all here, then it's a racism you can root for that you're fine with.

Speaker 1 If the racism is palatable for you, then go cowboys.

Speaker 1 So I don't want that shit.

Speaker 1 Speaking of celebrity sons, this Elijah Arenas thing? What the hell happened? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the report came out. It was very vague.
It just said he was involved in in a car accident,

Speaker 1 taken to the hospital, and was in a coma. Oh, shit.
Oh.

Speaker 1 So then more information came out. I believe it was Vlad who said he spoke to Gilbert Arenas

Speaker 1 and said he had an accident.

Speaker 1 The vehicle caught on fire and it was a lot of smoke inhalation. And what they do is they just induce you

Speaker 1 to get rid of the

Speaker 1 smoke. But

Speaker 1 it did, last I've read, he is expected to be okay. And

Speaker 1 we're still praying, so still prayers. Yeah, definitely prayers.
Prayers up to the

Speaker 1 family.

Speaker 1 I do have a statement from the family. Okay.
In a remarkable and hopeful development, Elijah Arenas has come out of his coma and has shown significant signs of progress within the last 24 hours.

Speaker 1 In a powerful and emotional moment, Elijah opened his eyes and was able to write on a piece of paper that he remembered the smoke and asked, did anyone get hurt?

Speaker 1 Although he remains

Speaker 1 intubated? Yes.

Speaker 1 This progress, let me make this bigger because I told you I'm losing my eyes. Once you get 40, you go.
Yeah, now it's gone. This progress marks a, my mom be having a font on her text

Speaker 1 the size of the phone.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 This progress marks a critical step forward in his recovery.

Speaker 1 His mother, Laura Govind, father, Gilbert Arenas, siblings, and family have been by his side every step of the way, holding on to faith and drawing strength from the prayers and love pouring in from around the world.

Speaker 1 One of the brave individuals who helped rescue Elijah from the burning vehicle shared his harrowing account of that day.

Speaker 1 I remember hearing banging on the car window, but I couldn't see anything because the smoke was so thick. That's when I realized someone was inside.
I tried to break the window, but it wouldn't give.

Speaker 1 Then I saw one of the windows was cracked just enough, and we used everything we had to bend it and pull him out. The car was on fire.
We just knew we had to get him out.

Speaker 1 This act of courage, along with Elijah's incredible will to survive, has been nothing short of miraculous.

Speaker 1 The family continues to ask for the public's prayers and support as their miracle baby fights his way back to a full recovery.

Speaker 1 They remain deeply grateful for the exceptional care provided by his medical team and the overwhelming love and encouragement from the community.

Speaker 1 Further updates will be shared as Elijah continues to heal. End quote.
Wow. I'm saying love and prayers to him.
Yeah, indeed.

Speaker 1 He's an excellent young basketball player, but at this point, it's like you don't even want to think about sports. You just want that boy to be okay.
He's going to be all right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and thank God he seems to be on the track.

Speaker 1 On the right path,

Speaker 1 I was real happy about this coma coming from the fumes and that his body was

Speaker 1 after we

Speaker 1 because once we get to yo, he's alive and he's all right, dude. I'm getting right to the money right after him.
My baby's a star.

Speaker 1 My baby had a bright future now. Don't play.
Don't play. We're getting back to it.
Right. He's a first-round thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't playing.
Yeah, that's why I don't want to hear that shit about Bronny, man. And then nigga, LeBron got that call.
His son had a heart problem.

Speaker 1 Nigga, he had to go into scandal mode.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Seriously.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Speaking of Brian,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I need to interrupt you, bro.
Kevin Gates at the Lakers game. Let's do it.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Why is this such a thing? Because people are stupid. Yeah, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 What's funny about it? Okay, here's why it's the thing.

Speaker 1 Braun confronted Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Yes. At the Lakers.
That's why it's a thing, though. I'm telling you why it's a thing.
But stop it, yo.

Speaker 1 He's wrong. He confronted Stephen A at the Laker game.
So now, again, Braun ignores all the bullshit. He's been excellent at ignoring the bullshit for years.
Right.

Speaker 1 Kevin Gates has said whatever he said about Braun and about his wife. About his wife, yeah.
And they responded. So now you...
You did an Instagram post. Right.

Speaker 1 You've addressed this, which you normally don't address shit. Keep the same energy.
So now, for Kevin Gates, I'm going to the Laker game, sitting courtside.

Speaker 1 Let's see what let's see you address me. That's why people have made it a thing.
I hate when Ice speaks for the internet. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Ice speaks for the internet. He does.
I speak like Dolores. Sometimes I love that.
I'm telling you. Sometimes I love that, and sometimes I hate it.
But you asked me.

Speaker 1 Why this is a thing? No, but now that you told me, you have to get my fucking internet vitriol.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 We have to stop.

Speaker 1 Fair. Who's on? Are you on the side, Mark? No, I'm on the side of saying that's why people are making a thing.
That's what I'm trying to say. I think this shit is stupid.

Speaker 1 I think it's all dumb. Kevin Gates is not Stephen A.
Smith. He's not Stephen A.
Smith. At all.
LeBron should ignore him. And the idea that Kevin Gates was ignorant.

Speaker 1 I think LeBron should have ignored him, not even with the post.

Speaker 1 They should have completely ignored him. Yeah, we should have ignored the post.

Speaker 1 You can't press somebody earlier in Stephen A. and then not keep the same energy.
Yes, you can. That's another rule that they have to do.
You absolutely can. But we've been able to do that.

Speaker 1 You not him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it don't matter. You can't pick up.

Speaker 1 I didn't understand. Niggas like, oh, Joe Bob is not barking at 15.
No.

Speaker 1 Don't try to sneak your little 50-cent take. That's different.

Speaker 1 It's not. You're Stephen A.
in this. You smelled that man cologne.
That's different. No,

Speaker 1 he smelled mine.

Speaker 1 And he turned around and looked at you.

Speaker 1 He smelled mine. It smelled remarkable.
Yeah, but Joe was staring there hoping he didn't turn around. See, I didn't get to get my jokes off.
Oh, that's true, man. He was pointing at him.

Speaker 1 I ain't

Speaker 1 I hope the ball don't come over here. Don't put me on the screen.
Just nothing.

Speaker 1 Oh, God, no, please. I saw you.
You ain't want no concessions. Nope.
I don't keep walking. I don't want nothing.

Speaker 1 You heard him say he went upstairs against concessions. Yeah, how you wanted to? He didn't go to the VIP.
Got a body there, too. He's eating cotton cake.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at you like that. Oh, shit, quick.

Speaker 1 He started the second half at 40-40.

Speaker 1 You like a chickmunk, nigga. Alvin, Simon, and Theodore, man.

Speaker 1 They trying to play my son. Listen, the point that I was making.

Speaker 1 You ain't feel that way. I watched that.
Of course, I didn't feel that way, but I'm not stepping on no jokes. Now, why? Why not?

Speaker 1 Even they saying that me saying I'm not stepping on no joke is my new way of stepping on jokes. It's a fine way.
It's a fine way.

Speaker 1 No, I'm shutting up now. I'm shutting up now.
Yeah. I encourage the jokes on me, and this was a good one.

Speaker 1 I thought for sure that this would skyrocket me in part of the month, but somehow I think this might still be a tight race.

Speaker 1 It's not a tight race. Oh, shit.
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Maybe if you let up off the gas, he can catch up on the bottom. Yeah, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Here we go. But anyway, yeah, you can definitely pick and choose who you fucking have bravado with.
You can. You have to.
Because here's the thing. And I get what you said.

Speaker 1 You can't be a sucker about it. Like, you can't

Speaker 1 make somebody weak and ungovernable somebody's sports.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. But he's known Stephen A.
Smith 20 years. Stephen A.
Smith has the biggest platform in his sport.

Speaker 1 So I think engaging Kevin Gates matters more. Yeah.
Yeah, that's not Kevin A. Kevin Gates is just somebody talking about him.
And I don't think you got just Aaron. That's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Because once you, no disrespect to Kevin Gates, but once you respond to him, you basically saying anybody that says something, I can respond. I have to respond.

Speaker 1 And then they're going to come out the woodwork because they want the attention. You got an album coming out.
You got a project coming out. You want to promote it.
Again, this ain't about Kevin Gates.

Speaker 1 It's about LeBron saying I'm. Exactly.

Speaker 1 But he just said that.

Speaker 1 And on the basketball side of things.

Speaker 1 I think when that Stephen Ace shit happened, that the Lakers were pretty much locked in as a three-seed. We in the playoffs, dog.
That's

Speaker 1 folks.

Speaker 1 He had nothing to do. If that nigga wanted to fucking play Scullies on the side of that game where he did that, he could have done that.
There ain't nothing on the line here.

Speaker 1 The Knicks was locked into the three seed with weeks left. And the niggas ain't, it's a long season.
We don't care about this shit. The playoff game, nigga, we know.
I see you over there.

Speaker 1 I see you with your girl. I see Brittany.
Hey. But what do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look stupid. Doing that here with you.
Yeah, for sure. At least with the LeBron, the Steven A shit.
We understand.

Speaker 1 Like I said, we understand. He looked stupid.
Well, not stupid, but I don't even, if I'm him, I don't respond to, me or my wife, we don't respond to you at all.

Speaker 1 You haven't earned that response from me. Right.
Agreed. You talk about that against me.
It's people. Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 1 And I'm not, again, it's nothing against Gates, but there's people that have said much worse.

Speaker 1 I don't got to respond to everything out there. Yeah.
Stephen A., yeah, we have history here. There's something here.
He's a bad person.

Speaker 1 I know him. They're both at the top of their field.
Exactly. That are related.
See,

Speaker 1 the thing about me,

Speaker 1 it's such a credit to your character when you don't respond to anything. It's so much so that I don't discredit you when you do.
Right? Like,

Speaker 1 I like Kevin Durant on social media. I love this shit.
Giving it up, just raw and

Speaker 1 shit that we ain't supposed to see or read. I say the same thing about me.

Speaker 1 When niggas get on social media and get funny and say shit that a publisher should stop you from saying, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 that is instinctual for most humans. So the guy that don't never do it, when he do it, it's like, I'm not going to fault you for it.
And see, I look at it the other way.

Speaker 1 The guy that has mastered the art of not doing it, for you to get him to do it means...

Speaker 1 It's almost like a weakness to me. But masters fuck up.
They just fuck up less than the female. I understand.
I'm just telling you how I look at it.

Speaker 1 When the person, LeBron has been excellent at ignoring the bullshit. He's been Ray Charles to the bullshit forever.
So if you, what is it about you that got him to

Speaker 1 address you? Before we leave this LeBron thing, our friend of the show, Speedy from over there at Complex, sat down with Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Some of y'all have never met Speedy.

Speaker 1 He's funny. He's funny.
He is funny. He's like new nigga, young nigga energy.
funny. So if you old and can't catch him being funny, it's funnier.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play Stephen A with Speedy, with Speedy asking him about fighting LeBron.

Speaker 1 It would have happened if you would have swung on LeBron. I know a lot of people think that,

Speaker 1 and I really didn't want to talk about it because I don't want to talk about him. But

Speaker 1 the bottom line is this.

Speaker 1 People could say I get my ass kicked. All right, go ahead.
Did you see who I walked in with? I did.

Speaker 1 He was 10 feet away.

Speaker 1 So, whatever's going to happen would have had to happen quick.

Speaker 1 Because that brother right there that

Speaker 1 is 330 plus. Bottom line should be short.
My body goes quick and fast. Not to mention a whole bunch of other people.
Steve's just laughing through this, but Stephen continues.

Speaker 1 And I'm fully aware of that. But one of the other things, on a very, very serious note,

Speaker 1 everywhere I go,

Speaker 1 ESPN knows. Listen to him.
Local police. Okay, shit.
FBI, everything. Oh, he's the FBI.
He's just with me. He didn't peep to me.
But I'm always guarded because I'm an investment.

Speaker 1 We got people out here that's got people protecting them, and they bringing in a little paper.

Speaker 1 Send them out.

Speaker 1 He's making a lot of money

Speaker 1 for the mountain.

Speaker 1 So if people want to think that I'm just walking around and I don't have anybody around me

Speaker 1 He's just my like my blood. That's like my brother right there.
Right. So you like what you're saying is I'm always protecting.
You like your odds.

Speaker 1 I like my odds. Now all I'm trying to say is and other people brought this up and we're going to be real here.
We're going to stop playing games with this particular subject. Oh shit.

Speaker 1 It's not about LeBron. It's about anybody.
Right.

Speaker 1 If somebody walked up to you

Speaker 1 and hit you, you gonna do nothing? No, you gotta defend yourself. That's all I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 I didn't say that. It's just funny sharing it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know that, but

Speaker 1 I'm going like this. Yeah, because I would.

Speaker 1 And the only reason I'm saying I watch. The only reason.
No, you haven't. Why? I saw it.
You saw that sorry ass video from a decade ago with Titan Rotator Cup.

Speaker 1 But if you want to think that's how I throw hands, it's okay.

Speaker 1 So you're saying.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing.

Speaker 1 All I ever said to anybody is this: that's how you think I throw it. Who's watching? That's how you think I throw hands.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 That's all I said. But you got him if you need it.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 I don't have to fight at this particular moment in time. I think it's kind of pathetic that people look at me at age 57.
He's still going. Not you, but I'm talking about people coming at me.

Speaker 1 This is Contend Gold.

Speaker 1 I'm not 37 or 27 warmer. I'm 57.

Speaker 1 But now y'all want to step to me.

Speaker 1 I got it. Feel free.
Do what you have to do. All I know is this, you know, again, and I've truly meant that all my life I've been that's

Speaker 1 telling you that I'll kick somebody's ass.

Speaker 1 But I'm telling you,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit by and let somebody just put their hands up.

Speaker 1 Maybe the one exception might have been Mike Tyson in his heyday. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 So, one exception. Holy fair, you still got it.
Mike, Mike, you might have, you got that Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 Hell yes. In 2005, you signed a three-year deal at ESPN that paid you $1.3 million.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Speedy.

Speaker 1 That's the interview after my own heart, man. Yo.
Yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, Speedy has to stop.

Speaker 1 Choose wisely. But you got it, though.
You got it?

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Sure. Sure.

Speaker 1 No, but Steven, they had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 1 And just gave it to me.

Speaker 1 Oh, my lord. That wasn't about these microphones.
Even a professional.

Speaker 1 No, you want to say the right thing?

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, say the right thing, you know how to get them

Speaker 1 insecurity. Yeah, yeah, hit somebody in an insecure spot, they're gonna keep talking.
Stephen A is a friend of the show for sure.

Speaker 1 Absolutely, and nobody's seen Max Kelleman in seven years.

Speaker 1 Yo, talk about ending a nigga, boy. Yo, yo, yo,

Speaker 1 not enough. You can just end niggas and the world just go continue.
Nobody said, Yo, what's up with Max? Who was Max?

Speaker 1 Nothing, finished. Yo, we liked Max.
Yeah, Yeah, I love Max. He was great.
Max was great. For years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 For decades.

Speaker 1 Got that nigga buried somewhere. Damn, man.
Max.

Speaker 1 Come on here, nigga.

Speaker 1 If you're getting this podcast through a dusty speaker buried hundreds of feet underground on an iPhone 4. Yeah, now check us out, Max.
Oh, man. Oh, Lord.
All right, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 What else is going on? What else is going on out there? Mark, So, I was thinking about falling off because I was thinking, like, people like Max Kellerman or whoever. Don't do that.
That's not right.

Speaker 1 No, no, you just had him on an iPhone 4, Dusty Speaker. Man, fuck with Max.
I love Max. Max and I shot a pilot.
Fall off his. That's my guy.

Speaker 1 You the most shot a pilot with Max CNN. We're supposed to show CNN.
You the most job-looking for ass nigga.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 anyway.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't know how to deal with this. R.
Kelly

Speaker 1 is currently performing birthday parties from jail. Yeah.
Like, he's literally calling into people's birthday parties and singing songs. You're to it, nigga.
That's right.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how to feel about this. I mean,

Speaker 1 I. So your birthday pass? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Definitely one of happy people for my. No, it's like he.

Speaker 1 I respect prisoners' rights, and prisoners have a right to earn money. As long as you're not earning money, you're done.

Speaker 1 I wrote a book with somebody on death row. Like, I mean, like, we co-authored the book.
Like, I'm totally down with Prison Saturday. What he got? Huh? What percent he got? Uh,

Speaker 1 you asked a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 A lot of NDAs. Jerking you records.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's his favorite book to write. You jail niggas?

Speaker 1 What? Yo, you get four percent, dog. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Fraser brokered the deal. It was good, man.
It worked out. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. Yo, you got.
All right, man. I'm kidding.
I gave him 80% of it. I gave him 80% of it.

Speaker 1 80%.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't. I did.
No, you didn't. Niggas get a podcast box a lot.

Speaker 1 Just like Stephen A would fight anybody but me. He'd be like, that is a bold face lie.
W and me wouldn't even let you get this nigga 80%. Ask the publisher.
No.

Speaker 1 Ask Fox Sports. No.

Speaker 1 No. We know what happened.
We're not journalists. Well, then.
You got to tell me.

Speaker 1 So I respect their rights, you know, as long as you're not making money off of your crime, the son of Sam Law. Right.

Speaker 1 But it's also R. Kelly, and I find him deplorable and disgusting.
And I hate that people want R. Kelly at their birthday party.
And I hate that he can make money singing at people's birthday parties.

Speaker 1 How do you get making money?

Speaker 1 Who said he's making money? Yeah, hold on. He got a cameo?

Speaker 1 Hey, hey. Fuck all that hell.
Niggas R. Kelly.
Let him sing, man. He's already under the jail.
As I said, he's already, like, let him sing. Let him get it on.
Answer my question.

Speaker 1 Who said he's making money? What you think? That's an interesting. You think he's doing that abortion? No, out of protection.

Speaker 1 Stay off my ass.

Speaker 1 Enough, Ice. What? Niggas a fucking with Kels and then they like Kels.
Niggas grew up listening to Kels in there. Kels know how to talk.
He a Chicago nigga.

Speaker 1 He know how to move and move around, gangsters. We never act like that.
Let the man sing. Niggas already fucking took his shit over YouTube.
Niggas took his shit.

Speaker 1 Apple music is still there, but it's not at the top. Let the nigga find a way to get something.
This is interesting here, the two sides of this. Y'all should have this debate.
Flip is saying, yo, man.

Speaker 1 What more can you do to a guy? You already ended him. You took him out of here.
He's locked up. He's under the ground.
You took his fucking music royalties. He's done already.

Speaker 1 So, if all he has is the payphone and his voice and a fan that wants to hear him, then why do you strip that?

Speaker 1 I hear that.

Speaker 1 Again, legally, I don't want to take it from. I hate that people want that.
I'm more upset that people want R. Kelly at their party.
Yo, he's still R. Kelly, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And there's an older fuck, man. Are you fucking

Speaker 1 fucking kidding? Who is us? Black. People who pee on kids? No, not that.
You want to go deep? No, not people who pee on kids. At the end of the day,

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 do you receive enough punishment to you? What's your standards of, okay, enough is a damage?

Speaker 1 You what type of nigga you kick a dog while it, you seem like you kick a nigga while he's down. You don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 You will heel and toe and then go sing at his funeral, nigga, or land of the free at his funeral. Nigga.

Speaker 1 When we told you that, when we told you Mel wanted to work with Kevin Spacey, what was your position on that? Because you were silent. No, being down.
What up? I don't remember hearing that.

Speaker 1 No, of course you didn't.

Speaker 1 But I think she shouldn't. I mean, I think she should.
I think she'd be wrong.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. We said, I purposely brought that up while mark was it what

Speaker 1 was it after five o'clock he was over there

Speaker 1 after five o'clock out of here

Speaker 1 to me but i'm just saying you can never shit on somebody that wants to work with greatness in spite of

Speaker 1 how sick the greatness is that's also a little more complicated why

Speaker 1 because well because kevin spacey wasn't convicted of crimes right got it number one i understand and number two

Speaker 1 being forced to work with creepy people in hollywood is kind of like, or music or whatever, is kind of something you have to do.

Speaker 1 If she invited him to do a cameo at her birthday party, I'd be like, that's terrible and disgusting, right? Not just mail anybody, right?

Speaker 1 I don't have an issue with, again, people in prison making money. They should be.
They're exploited. Even if you did the crime, you're still being exploited on some level.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm mad that we live in a society that is still celebrating R. Kelly.
I'm watching this woman on the video. crying and trembling like it, you know what I mean? Like, to me, that's weird.

Speaker 1 And I hate what I'm saying. But if you take the opposite stance of, like,

Speaker 1 I've heard you say, I don't know, quote me if I'm wrong, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but

Speaker 1 if something,

Speaker 1 to her, it looks like, if it didn't happen to me, I'm fine. I know that it is still R.
Kelly. It didn't happen to me.
It didn't happen to any of my family members. I still want to hear him.

Speaker 1 Have you said that before about something like? No.

Speaker 1 So you take the stance of, if you've done something,

Speaker 1 and even if we had a good relationship, I'm going to change change my whole look on you if you believe in something my mother followed those same sentiments when it comes to voting for Trump or doing shit like she would go into this deep of deep thought of not fucking with somebody I think that's weird not she's not weird I love her but what I'm saying

Speaker 1 there's more there's more hold on Joe hold on nigga I can correct myself

Speaker 1 wait I wasn't trying to correct you I was adding on

Speaker 1 hold me down I'm sorry there's more bad people than good causes yeah yes I mean there's more bad causes than good people is what I meant right so like like Like they say, if you're searching for something on the internet in the information age, you can find anything to support your argument.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing with humans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's people on the dark web right now doing all types of shit. There's a huge market for shit that in our normal society is...

Speaker 1 Look down on, frown on.

Speaker 1 And they're doing. So, I mean, there is somebody to serve.
In America, all you got to do is start a business. They didn't say what your business needs to be.

Speaker 1 If you start it, somebody is going to, you're going to find a customer. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 And people have a right to find it. I just hate that you hate it.
But look at this. You said that you don't believe there should be any jails.

Speaker 1 Somebody will look at you that listens to you and look up to you and be like, Mark, that is very irresponsible to put that out there as a man who was for

Speaker 1 peace. You come off as you're for peace.
No, and it's contradictory. Because if there's no jail, then a nigga is free to go do birthday.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And again, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to do it. You're mad to people.
I'm mad to say that.

Speaker 1 I'm not afraid of demand. I got a shit.

Speaker 1 They don't like the demand. Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 See, that's why I need you here. Like, the demand.

Speaker 1 You understand me. Yes, I get what you say.
Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 1 We can't say that, Ma. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
But I can bitch about it. I ain't going to let you do that.
That's all I'm doing.

Speaker 1 We understand what you're saying, too. We do.
You are just being dismissive of our response.

Speaker 1 I don't even comprehend it. I bet he agrees with me.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
I know y'all comprehend what I'm saying. I'm saying.

Speaker 1 In America,

Speaker 1 the sliders, if you great, great, great, they'll look the other way at your nasty shit.

Speaker 1 And that's the history of this country. But here's what I'm saying.
What if I said for the longest? If they love you,

Speaker 1 he told him not to say nothing. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 If they love you, yo, Mark. If they love you,

Speaker 1 you can do no wrong. And that's what's fucked up to me.

Speaker 1 He's R. Kelly is, that's why I say he's still R.
Kelly. There are people, yo,

Speaker 1 if he had a tour today, it would sell out. Oh, of course it would be.
Now, there will be people like, yo, why y'all going to that shit? Well, how dare you?

Speaker 1 And it has to be 100 feet from like a school. Yeah, of course.
It's other motherfuckers that's like, I don't give a fuck about that. I'm going.
And I hate love.

Speaker 1 Because you know what fucks me up about this in our culture? If I had said to you, yeah, that somebody who ratted on 10 drug dealers was calling the birthday parties, and I said, fuck that.

Speaker 1 I hate people having these snitches called the birthday parties, you would agree with me.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 No. Okay, well, maybe you wouldn't.
A lot of people would. Yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Yes. Is the snitch in question one of the most talented songwriters in the history of man music

Speaker 1 because that's the asterisk that we ignore and also let me ask you a question that's what i'm trying to say real quick were you mad at the school for keep wanting bill cosby to speak yes but you still participated how did i participate meaning were you on the same panels with him and no no no no no i i you still communicated

Speaker 1 i popped up at his panel but did you say i told him i didn't want him there but i worked that's also my job that's what i'm saying what i'm saying

Speaker 1 that's not right

Speaker 1 You didn't get up and take a stance and leave the job. I'm not going to sit on this panel.
You told him that you wanted to sit here. I went there to confront him at a break on his panel.

Speaker 1 I went there and sat next to him to talk to him to talk about resolving our beat. So you didn't put the school on a banned list.
No, I worked there.

Speaker 1 But there's some people. So hold on.
Because you lose. There's some people that they are

Speaker 1 principals outweigh. They'll leave the job.
And I can't even work. And I think they're all assigning.
But these are all concerning that. My issue isn't people engaging him.
My issue is

Speaker 1 people celebrating him. He said that he repeated himself.
You're right. It's the celebration of him.
Having him at your birthday party as the honored guest is different than

Speaker 1 having a conversation with him or criticizing him or even talking to him. Shit, it's even different than just playing his music at the party.
Mark, Mark, I'm not going to let you do that.

Speaker 1 He wasn't an honored guest.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, hold up, woman. Hold up.
He's on speakerphone. Look at the Oxcord.
I mean, that's the part I'm not going to let him do. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 The woman, the auntie that's booking R.

Speaker 1 Kelly to sing happy birthday or do whatever over the phone from jail is not celebrating him more than the fucking academic institution that is putting him on the panel to speak to an audience.

Speaker 1 That's not true. But I'm saying the academic institution is 100% wrong.
I think they're worse than the auntie. But you didn't, but you don't boycott them because you worked there.

Speaker 1 I didn't boycott my job. No.
No, I didn't quit my job

Speaker 1 so that the billionaire

Speaker 1 who's being wrongfully promoted at this event can have a spotlight. Don't they?

Speaker 1 To you,

Speaker 1 there are, what's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 1 To you, there are.

Speaker 1 So it shouldn't be a double standard when

Speaker 1 one side

Speaker 1 supports something, even if it's as minuscule as a birthday party, versus another side, a different side,

Speaker 1 having somebody be a speaker there. It shouldn't be that double standard is what I'm saying.
Here, all I'm saying is I don't think it's a double standard.

Speaker 1 I'm not asking, I wasn't asking the school to even boycott Bill Cosby. I was just asking him not to celebrate him.
Similarly, I'm not asking the woman to boycott R. Kelly.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, let's not make videos and distribute him surprising somebody at a birthday party because that just encourages more people to buy into the R. Kelly industrial complex.

Speaker 1 And I don't want that shit. Those are.

Speaker 1 So you were disappointed

Speaker 1 in the school having him, but not disappointed enough to quit because that just wouldn't make sense. Yeah, this wouldn't make sense.

Speaker 1 And all boycotts, strategically as an activist, as an organizer, you don't always go to the end. Everybody can't quit every job.

Speaker 1 You don't boycott every company every time they do something you don't like. I mean, that's just not strategic.

Speaker 1 But there are caveats, you're saying,

Speaker 1 and it just seems like when it comes to the shit R. Kelly is accused of,

Speaker 1 we find a way, not us in this room, but people who, just broadly in America, we find a way to justify it or look the other way. But there's other shit we don't.
Do you put R.

Speaker 1 Kelly and Bill on the same scale, in your opinion? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think they should be treated the same way.
And frankly, if R. Kelly were on tape with a bunch of little boys, I don't think people would be having them at their birthday party.
Right?

Speaker 1 There's certain things we like, that's too far. And it's somewhat arbitrary to me sometimes.
That's all. But look, if you want R.
Kelly at your party, you know, you have a right to be.

Speaker 1 You're saying because his girls, they do treat it differently. Yeah, I want people not to want that.
That's all. I want better for us.

Speaker 1 And we shouldn't say that so matter of factly because there might be boys out there. Yeah, I said if he was known, I should say if he was known for that, if that was his.

Speaker 1 Got it, got it, got it, got it. Just wanted to know what he was doing.
You put a lot of stock in people, dog. For sure.
He do, for sure. You're putting a lot of stock in people.
Honestly, I think if

Speaker 1 it was him with boys on tapes or whatever, there's going to be a group that's just, that's R. Kelly.
He made these records that define the prime years of some folk life.

Speaker 1 And if they could get him to perform them records for them, they're going to want to hear him. Let me give you something.
Let me tell you something. I fell out with somebody because of that, right?

Speaker 1 They had the same sentiments as you.

Speaker 1 And then she said, Lovely said that she compares

Speaker 1 R. Kelly Predophile Protectors

Speaker 1 and Trump supporters the same, right? And she, that's what she was saying, right? But I got mad at her. That's too far.
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah. But I got mad at her because we were saying that, yo, we enjoy our Kelly music.
A lot of us grew up to it, and we're not judging the man.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're judging the man, but we're separating the two. I believe I can fly.
These certain songs are part of your graduation. It's a part of your livelihood.
You grew up listening to it.

Speaker 1 Your family listened to it. So it becomes a part of your life to some of us.

Speaker 1 And me, too. She was so passionate about, yo, it's over

Speaker 1 that. She resulted, in my opinion, to insulting us.
And I felt like, you don't got to do that. You're my friend.
A lot of of people do that, regardless what they do.

Speaker 1 A lot of people just also disconnect

Speaker 1 like celebrities as human beings almost.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure that they even look at him like that. And that's real.
I mean, it's like I said,

Speaker 1 there's no right answers here. I just was a little disappointed.
And also, I didn't know. How much, lastly, how much do you charge for that? How much would you pay for that?

Speaker 1 How much Robin costs?

Speaker 1 You got a honey bun.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What? Get us out of there, man. We done.
Yeah, we done.

Speaker 1 Yo, just say hi to the nigga. Yo, are you crazy?

Speaker 1 God damn it. I said, get us out of there.
I told y'all to get us out of there. We should have been out of there.
Yeah. You like? Write it down.
No, it ain't get me.

Speaker 1 Write it down. For any stretch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Had to give out. When it's too mature for too long, I just got to do that.
I know. I just got to do that.
I know.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 All right. So, what else? What else? What else? What else is there? And listen, great show so far.

Speaker 1 Really great show. Great show.
Don't start this shit. Let's move it smoothly.
Just say great show and let it go.

Speaker 1 Don't start this. Don't even do it.
We know where you go. Niggas is tired of you doing that, nigga.

Speaker 1 Every team can't be the greatest. They're not going.
Stop doing that. Stop trying to

Speaker 1 soothe in the moment. Actually, that's some pussy shit that you do because you do that putting it on me when you do that.
No, you do that pussy shit. I'm just saying this.

Speaker 1 I've been watching you do it all day. I went home when I was sick.
I watched it all day. Even when I came in, oh, damn, I'm so happy.
Man, shut your ass up, man.

Speaker 1 Stop trying to soothe niggas and big niggas up to get your shit off. We, nigga, we good.
We know where we at, nigga. Just keep the show going.
You always doing that, trying to big some shit up.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Yo, you here? Oh, without you today.
Oh, my God, nigga. Even though we had a good day, Ish kilter today, but we missed something.
I don't need to hear none of that, nigga.

Speaker 1 We did miss you, though. We did miss you.
I don't give a fuck. We did.
I came here to work. Yo, don't sit here.
Oh, you know, because I want to look at you.

Speaker 1 It's just something about you when you sit above.

Speaker 1 You shine bright in the middle of the nigga. That nigga just have a real problem with compliments.
Your compliments is backhanded. They may have a real problem.

Speaker 1 Well, that's true, too. You back-handed king.
You know that, right? No,

Speaker 1 I think that people receive me wrong often. Yo, it's not true.
We watch you. We watch you get back-handed compliments.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, I think that people receive me wrong often, and I do backhanded compliments. But two things can be true.

Speaker 1 I think that's right.

Speaker 1 I get that a lot. You get back-handed compliments as well? No, no, no.
People read me wrong. People think I'm being sarcastic or snarky or petty or, and I'm just asking a sincere question.

Speaker 1 But we do be sarcastic. and then when we think you're not being sarcastic, that's true.
That's true. That's going to be true.
That's my point.

Speaker 1 Not a lot.

Speaker 1 Y'all give me too much credit. Sometimes I'm just like a space cadet.
When we think you're not being sarcastic, we go back and they're like, oh, that nigga says some slick shit.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. What? No, more.

Speaker 1 They catch you.

Speaker 1 It don't hit me.

Speaker 1 Nigga, they catch up and be like, wait, he said that? And I go,

Speaker 1 the people catch you. A lot of that is.

Speaker 1 A lot of that is editing and misunderstanding. Nah, you're talking a lot on Parks now.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying, sometimes, like, the context gets left out, and they think I'm clowning it.

Speaker 1 I'm not. Oh, please.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say this in closing. Still, one of my favorite mark clips is him telling us, all of us, and us sharing in the same shock that he tore his rotator cuff by carrying us.

Speaker 1 Yes. And just looking at the room.
Me too. I was like,

Speaker 1 oh, shit. But that's not it.
That's not it.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Oh, what?

Speaker 1 That's like in Slapbox, and when a nigga connected,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 or he could play like that.

Speaker 1 When he slaps the shit out, he catches it. You know what?

Speaker 1 I got to tell you. I felt

Speaker 1 this is full disclosure. I felt awful about that to the next.
No, no, I awful. I loved that.

Speaker 1 I loved it. I felt awful about it.
I really did. I felt really bad from the moment I said it.
I was like, ooh, that was too far. And then Ian called me the next morning.
This is how bad it was.

Speaker 1 I didn't sleep that night about it. Oh, knock it off.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 1 She don't worry about it. See what I'm saying? Don't worry about it, big dog.
No, no, no. I'm sorry, right?

Speaker 1 Nothing about that. Yeah, I'm gonna show you that.
I'm gonna tell you that. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 he,

Speaker 1 Ian thought it was funny. Ian called to tell me he thought it was funny, of course.
Of course. I was like, no, Ian, I was like, that wasn't funny.
Actually, I didn't. I really didn't.
I'm not even.

Speaker 1 I swear to you, I was awful. I want to apologize, y'all.
I'm about to ask you a question, but I don't want to make a thing about it. No, we don't.
Who's the doctor that he told you to go see?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Wait, it's third one? Nigga, I slap fire out your nigga for mail, nigga.

Speaker 1 We already had that one. Get up, nigga.
Now that's old. Third room, what? That's old.
It's two. It was always two.

Speaker 1 That's the second one, man. Just two, man.
Shady room, nigga. I'm going to the next.

Speaker 1 Shady. No, wait,

Speaker 1 I want to address that too because you keep, I see what you're doing. You know.

Speaker 1 Just for the record. That's my girl.
I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 Because you like to feed the clippers out there. Mel is not suspended.
I know she's not. Okay, just so we can.
I know she's not suspected. Mel is chilling.
Yes. We know.
She's chilling.

Speaker 1 She's all right. Shout out to Mel.
She is not suspended. She's going to curse me out when she watches laughing.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to say that because I didn't want to stop y'all's AdSense check like Cook.

Speaker 1 They make a whole storyline. I know.

Speaker 1 But I like that they do that, so I don't ever want to step on them. Yeah.
Just sit up. I got to just ignore it.
They go way so far. I'm like, where did y'all come with this shit from? I play around.

Speaker 1 I'm playing with that shit. I play around a lot.
Yeah, but it could be the other way. Shout out to Mel.
It could be a tree dropping in the woods and nobody ever hears it. That's true, too.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what he explained to me. That's why I just, I don't, y'all got it.
Salute. I just salute everybody now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, having an audience is the blessing. Now, who that audience is is out of your control.
Exactly. Once the door is open, then whoever comes to the show is at the show, nigga.

Speaker 1 They start banging, they start banging. Yeah, she's not suspending.
No, no, but we can't crack jokes. It's there.

Speaker 1 She'll crack jokes. It's there too.
Nigga, if the door opens, she'll walk right through it. Hey, what is it? She's been sending some shots.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Not to you. Oh, she's been sending me shots the last two weeks.
Yeah, nigga, because you're getting too comfortable, nigga. You forgot to play.

Speaker 1 When you come up here, nigga, when it come to me, shut the fuck up and hold me down.

Speaker 1 You went from holding her down after that basketball game?

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Hey, he had to try to look neutral, right?

Speaker 1 That's a nigga fucking hard.

Speaker 1 Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 I don't even really know it like that.

Speaker 1 On gang.

Speaker 1 On gang. Hill,

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mel, man. We miss you.
I think you're watching Patreon curse me out. I'm waiting for a test.
Mel, we miss you. Ish, we miss you.
We miss you, ish.

Speaker 1 Both of y'all as well. And we're doing our best to hold it down in you guys' absence.
Yeah, you told me. Yeah, and just let you know, you're going to see behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 You talking about, I told, asked about the new chairs. He like, yo, some of you niggas may not be here eight maze, nigga.
Chop checking your calendars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I figure we should get new couches because these shits is dirty.

Speaker 1 We're going to get darker ones, yeah. We could do that.
Maybe some leather or or something. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We could do that now that Mark has fucking really raised the amount of audience that we get per month. So we're gonna need some new couches.

Speaker 1 He said the same shit to me before, Lord.

Speaker 1 Look at you before.

Speaker 1 You did before. Look at Jimmy.
He said, You did before. You did it before.

Speaker 1 You did that shit, Mark.

Speaker 1 What do y'all want to talk about? What y'all want to talk about? What else we got? What else we got? What are you talking about? Music or nothing? Nothing music right now.

Speaker 1 I didn't see no music with nothing music. A couple of albums came out.
Call free, that woo album came out. I didn't even know about it until y'all said it.
Yeah, pre-fraud.

Speaker 1 I downloaded it. I'm excited.
What's it called again? Uh, I'll tell you

Speaker 1 something. Um, what's it called? Black something.

Speaker 1 Look at y'all. Yeah, y'all the woof.
Black Samson. I was the best.
Black Samson. You just punched me.
I'm listening to like

Speaker 1 y'all do it.

Speaker 1 Learned you right. Quick.

Speaker 1 Real quick. I mean, it's another side, but nothing bored.
Not worth me. Not ignored.
That's what I'm saying. I got a board.
I got about.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. Got it there.

Speaker 1 So y'all didn't hear it at all? I didn't hear shit. I'm only three tracks in.
The Benny the Butcher Joint is dope. It's a couple tracks on there.
Method Man gets busy.

Speaker 1 I mean, nobody raps better than Method Man on this.

Speaker 1 Method is bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 For the Wool members, a couple years. He's been killing it for the last

Speaker 1 five years. Yeah, it's fire.
But I haven't gotten through the whole thing. That's the only thing new that I've even been trying to listen to.

Speaker 1 It's been light. It's been light.
I'm not going to lie. I got Ray Vaughn's.

Speaker 1 I got it. I didn't get to listen to Ray Vaughn.
I listened to a couple of rest. I can't wait to listen to that, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the baby did the, I think it was

Speaker 1 on the radar, Freestar. Freestyle, excuse me.
And he did the Squabble Up Beat. Okay.

Speaker 1 Absolutely smoked it. Absolutely smoked it.
And when he did it, I was like, damn, yo, I would love it if he did like a jacking for beats tape. Okay.
Where you said, fuck it. I'm going over beats.

Speaker 1 Because when he gets in freestyle bag, freestyle mode,

Speaker 1 it's next level.

Speaker 1 Surprisingly, today,

Speaker 1 well, yesterday at noon, he took it back to mixtape,

Speaker 1 dropped an exclusive mixtape with a live mixtape.

Speaker 1 Absolutely love it. Wow.

Speaker 1 It's called,

Speaker 1 excuse me, I'll get the name of this. It is called

Speaker 1 Please Say the Baby. And it's all freestyles.
It's 15 tracks. He did the skies the limit beat,

Speaker 1 Tweaker, Nokia,

Speaker 1 Squabble Up, did some RB joints. It's about time someone did this shit, man.
Yeah, like... That's fire.

Speaker 1 And because, again, mixtape. So I can touch these beats that I don't have to clear.
I have to do all the stuff. It's not on streaming.
Right.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. I did a quick scan through.

Speaker 1 He absolutely was smoking these beats.

Speaker 1 So I'm excited.

Speaker 1 I love When the Baby Raps.

Speaker 1 He's another one that fight through the fall, you you know, fight through the adversity, fight through the fall. He's always been funny.
He was way at the top. He was.

Speaker 1 And never gave up, just kept putting out records, kept working, peaceful.

Speaker 1 He did that. He did it.
Yeah, because he was cleaning his act, though.

Speaker 1 He was cleaning his act up in the process.

Speaker 1 That's part of the process.

Speaker 1 Yeah, staying out of trouble.

Speaker 1 That last Walmart shit. And then, you know, he just.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So just salute to him.

Speaker 1 Check it out if y'all get a chance. It is a really, really good, and it's just a good feel for those of us who love the mixtape era.
For sure. And I do.

Speaker 1 Is any music coming out on the horizon that we can expect? I know you always get the surprise. It could be a surprise Hove album, a surprise,

Speaker 1 but is there anything on the horizon other than Wayne, obviously? And I know we got to talk about him coming to MSG. Like, is there anything that y'all expecting? Uh, Thugs album, which is

Speaker 1 I want to say next week or two, within the, it's very, coming up very soon. Okay, um, he did drop a single today, Him and Future.
Yep, I saw that.

Speaker 1 I saw the video, it reminded me of Otis.

Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't see the video. How, how, um Lightning Chill Firebreak and shit? Nah, remember how in the oldest video, Hove and Ye, they

Speaker 1 stripped down the Mayback where they did the same thing with a Urus. Okay.
And they, you know, driving crazy with the girls in the car. So it reminded me of that.

Speaker 1 The song has a beat flipped through the middle of it. Yep.

Speaker 1 Cool record. Yeah, I didn't love it, but it wasn't bad.
I didn't hate it. Yeah, I hate it.
This is the second thug verse that I've heard since he's been home.

Speaker 1 The first one being Dumb, Dumb, and Dumber on Lil Baby's album. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 I'm pleased.

Speaker 1 I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
So I am looking forward to the album. He's in full rollout mode of the album.
Did it feel like it was directed at Gunner a little bit?

Speaker 1 I think people are going to reach and make anything directed at Gunner. Okay.
Like he's talking very general. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of rats. There was.
So I don't say this is at Gunner.

Speaker 1 You got to come out and

Speaker 1 talk about Gunnar. I got to be friends with you or something like that.
Was the

Speaker 1 that could go with a couple folk. Yeah, okay.
So I'm not,

Speaker 1 I know we're reaching to connect that dot.

Speaker 1 And I think he knows knows we're reaching to connect that dot. So he can be very vague and they're just going to run with it regardless.
Gotcha. Yeah, the record was cool.

Speaker 1 I wasn't blown away, but I like it.

Speaker 1 Is there, this is the least surprising news, I think, for me in R ⁇ B anyway,

Speaker 1 R.A. Linux, you know, leaving Greenville.

Speaker 1 It feels like it's worth mentioning.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there were rumors we talked about, the possibility of it, but now that it's happening, what does that mean? Because you definitely in Shea Butter Twitter, too. Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 1 You did your numbers in Shea Butter Twitter.

Speaker 1 No comment. No comment.
What'd you think of that? What'd you think of that? Yeah, uh-huh. Which part? You did your numbers in that Shea Butter Twitter now.
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 It's been so long in the past.

Speaker 1 That's true. But you were a prominent member.

Speaker 1 I was all up in Shea Butter. I was the original founding member of Shea Butter Twitter.
I know.

Speaker 1 You found a lot.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of foundings. Black Soul.
Shea Butter.

Speaker 1 Those were the days. Oh, my God.
Lord.

Speaker 1 Remember, Philly, did you ever come down to the Black Lily in Philly back when when they used to do a five-spot?

Speaker 1 When all look, that's when everybody would be down there all with like the height of Neo's soul.

Speaker 1 I think I came to one. A lot of cool huts.
I think I came to one. Yeah, a lot of nit, a lot of nitrogen.
A lot of nit. A lot of crow shit.
Yo. There's a lot of other stuff going on.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I was about to say. That's the thing people did.
People thought it was never politically conscious. It was like culturally conscious.
It was freaknick. I mean, it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're not wrong. Shit used to be wild.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was incense and freaknick.
Nigga. But yeah, I'll let you do the Ari Lennox.

Speaker 1 But back to Ari Lennox, unrelated to the previous

Speaker 1 discussion. Of course.

Speaker 1 She's left Dreamville. She just put out a single, obviously, a couple weeks ago.
It seemed like she was moving down an independent path, but now it's done.

Speaker 1 What does that mean for Dreamville? What does that mean for her?

Speaker 1 I mean, it looks like everybody's happy with their split. So she was clearly unhappy at the label.
Well, you asked to get off the label, you get your freedom. Now it's on you to do what you do.

Speaker 1 I don't think it means nothing bad for her.

Speaker 1 Like, now you got your control, you off, you're away from this label. She's still with

Speaker 1 Interscope, though. Is that Cole?

Speaker 1 Yes. Cole's girlfriend?

Speaker 1 Is that wait? No. No, no, it's not his girl.
Oh, no, it's just his label.

Speaker 1 We got this segment.

Speaker 1 Is that the girl that dissed you?

Speaker 1 Oh, nigga. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 The one accurate fast time. Yeah.
Which time this year? Yeah, nigga. He tricked me.

Speaker 1 It was. It was a trick.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 But there's no beef on my end. There's no beef on my end.
Are you ready to squash it?

Speaker 1 Give her your blessings and stuff. You heard the earlier part of the podcast.
I did. I want to squash it with anybody that has beef with Joe Button.
I don't have to.

Speaker 1 Talk to the camera inviter up here, and you know, there you go. No.

Speaker 1 And we got to talk about that, too, about inviting people if you wanted to get into that topic, hopefully on Patreon or

Speaker 1 we got to get into that topic. Meet your topic.
Yo, people people that are,

Speaker 1 yeah, we'll save it for you. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we should. But I don't have a beef for it.
For Ari Lennox, it seems like she's doing well. I mean, she's got a Jermaine Dupree, Brian Mike Cox record out now, so

Speaker 1 I don't think that her leaving Dreamville is the worst thing in the world for her.

Speaker 1 And in terms of dream, because I see artists who have their labels, and it seems like at some point when the artists leave, is it a label anymore? And I'm not saying that about dream value.

Speaker 1 I don't know enough to know what their kind of path is, but I'm wondering, like, if the marquee artists leave and it just becomes like your label and it's just you, that seems to happen a lot these days.

Speaker 1 Which is not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, I'm not saying it's about Dreamville.
I'm just saying if art are is this a path that artists are going to be leaving?

Speaker 1 Well, if it's just you, then you still have your own label, right? You just signed to your label. It's not just you over there.
Yeah, that's not a criticism.

Speaker 1 She wasn't the marquee artist over there. No, no, no.
I know. I'm saying, I'm asking, I'm sorry, I'm not being clear.
I'm asking two different questions.

Speaker 1 One, is this a path of artists leaving Dreamville? No, I don't think so. It doesn't seem that way.
It doesn't seem to be that. Okay.
To be honest, Ari was always a weird fit for Dreamville. Agreed.

Speaker 1 Yes. Dreamville ain't known for the RB songs.
Smith and cultivate. Yeah, the niggas is rapping over there.
Gotcha. So I'm sure there was an internal struggle there.

Speaker 1 How this info has been dispersed says that both sides wanted to kind of.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She wanted to be able to.
It sounded like she wanted to get away. They were happy

Speaker 1 to get her away.

Speaker 1 This is one of those things where the truth is in the lie.

Speaker 1 And when they put the lie on Front Street being both sides left happy well yeah that's true but

Speaker 1 yeah that's where it is it's

Speaker 1 understood the details the devil is in the details right and it's about that relationship gotcha it's about that relationship because i've seen situations where one person leaving is assigned and within a year like two or three more artists go and by the time and it starts to whittle down but y'all saying this ain't it so that's good to know i don't see that happening there good good

Speaker 1 they got i would be stepping to ari like the jets stepped to fucking aaron rogers i'd be like yo do you want to make music

Speaker 1 And if the answer is yes, then full steam ahead.

Speaker 1 Because she's been, she's had disparaging remarks about wanting to continue a career.

Speaker 1 Not just her, but a few people in RB have had just remarks about continuing their career under this current construct. So, but if she wants to make music, great, good luck to her.
Right.

Speaker 1 Because she's very talented. For sure.
I love her voice.

Speaker 1 She is. She is.
It just wasn't the right fit. And sometimes, and that's okay.
Yeah, true. Like, we have a look, we have a direction.

Speaker 1 We go over here, and if you don't fit that, or you want to do this, let's find a way to

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 you know, with all due respect to anyone that she's worked with previously, I love her and Jasmine Sullivan's collaborations.

Speaker 1 But if you're, if you're an RB songstress and you're not liking how things are going, and then you can get with Brian Michael Cox for unlimited hours, you'll probably want to leave your previous situation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's real. And if you're running a rap label and you're one of the top-tier rap artists in the world and there's someone that's just

Speaker 1 giving you a little bit of a

Speaker 1 little bit of a,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 you're probably happy to. Everybody looks like everybody wins.
That's it. Everybody wins.
So salute to all of them. Indeed.
Wishing them all the best. Yeah, best.

Speaker 1 And I spoke to niggas back when that J. Cole apology popped out.
Some people were worried about how that may reflect on them.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying Ari is one of them, but if I'm on the label and the label head is going through something like that,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm not, I reserve the right to think about it. Sure, that's all.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 yo, this crew, when it comes to breaking down these topics, anyway, man, y'all are killing. Y'all are killing.
I feel so much more informed than I did before we sat here.

Speaker 1 Uh, what else do I need to be informed about? Um, also, um, in music announcements, Wayne announced that he is doing an MSG show. Niggas are waning me to death before I hear enough songs.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie to you. This is the part of it.
I like this, though. I like this personally.
I know Wayne's history with New York City.

Speaker 1 Wayne, it was like he was never coming back to New York. I know he hates it.
Wayne hates New York.

Speaker 1 I know he did an Apollo show. He hates New York.
But he hates New York.

Speaker 1 Drake hates New York.

Speaker 1 No money is responsible for New York losing some of its cachet last decade because the artists weren't stopping it. I'll take.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's hard to take it off. They both on record saying it.

Speaker 1 Drake is on record saying, yo, regardless of of what y'all think as an artist, you do not need to go to New York to sell a record. And he was on record saying that.

Speaker 1 Lil Wayne is on record saying, Yo, fuck New York. Them niggas locked me up with a gun on some bullshit while I was the biggest rapper in the world.
I hate New York.

Speaker 1 He's they both said him and Birdman literally said, We're never going back to New York. Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, they,

Speaker 1 but glad, glad it's changed. And yeah, it's changed.
And again, it's Madison Square Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, no disrespect, you not, Wayne ain't going to Barclays.

Speaker 1 Me and Fifth was at that night. Me and Fifth was up in there chilling.

Speaker 1 Fifth and you was there. Let's put it in order.
Me and Starbucks. Me and Fifth was in there chilling watching.

Speaker 1 And Fat Joe. And Fat Joe was there.
That name. Fifth and Fat Joe.
All the stars. I didn't see your name on the screen when they were showing.

Speaker 1 I saw you in the back track. All the stars.
All the stars was out. You know, sometimes the playoff games separate from the NBA openers where you might see a mark and ish together.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You might see a mark and ish take the drive. Well, they could see us because we were in the front row.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, behind the scores table. Nah, nah, behind the scores table.
Next to the basketball. Those seats come down a couple down.
You was behind Carrotop.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. God damn.
Nigga, I was next to Thibodeau. Nigga, watch your mouth.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Carrot.

Speaker 1 God damn. No carrot.

Speaker 1 That guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 1 What was he talking about? I'm trying to play my man. It's my way shit.
MSG being allowed to MSG.

Speaker 1 Oh, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen,

Speaker 1 listen,

Speaker 1 listen.

Speaker 1 Brand new Coco Jones in your phone and on DSPs right now, man.

Speaker 1 I only got to hear the oh, oh,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 wanna lay

Speaker 1 with you all night

Speaker 1 and have you lay me down

Speaker 1 when you'll safe

Speaker 1 on sight

Speaker 1 on life.

Speaker 1 Tell me not to leave.

Speaker 1 Tell me what delays. Hey, what else?

Speaker 1 Anyway, brand new Coco Jones in your phone and on DSPs right this second. This record is called on site.
This is not an ad. RCA hasn't given me a dime ever.
We should change that, RCA. Anyway,

Speaker 1 coco jones shit i've only heard it one time but it's heat on there

Speaker 1 it's a new project it's absolutely yes oh i thought we were sleeper no i thought we were sleeper that's how i thought it was a song y'all dying to go off

Speaker 1 we got mad more topics to get to no we're not we got way more topics to get to

Speaker 1 see yo hey don't touch that down

Speaker 1 we was at sleep we're on with our phone like

Speaker 1 oh no coco jones has a new album and it's out now and i was just playing a joint off it because I fuck with her. I don't know.
I fuck with her.

Speaker 1 Even though my sleeper will probably come from that same album.

Speaker 1 Destin Conrad album in your phone as well. I only heard half of it.
It sounds like heat.

Speaker 1 That's just my RB update for you guys. Coco Jones, Destin Conrad this weekend.
I think Salt dropped something too. I listen to Salt?

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Ooh.
Let me double check to make sure that wasn't some old shit that I just stumbled.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 hey. It was

Speaker 1 crazy. Bobby.
Nigga, door, we was at sleevers. You thought you was about to be.
We outside by 5 p.m.

Speaker 1 I was texting right when I was like, Texas Shaggy. I'm like, yeah, this was dude.
April 19th. Texas Shaggy.
They fuck with you, too. Shout out to Shaggy.
I love Shaggy. Yeah, it fucked with you.

Speaker 1 I saw you doing his lyrics on the internet. They said your name and shit.
The lady said your name. I'm like, yo, don't fuck.
I even said in the video, it was about to drop today. Don't,

Speaker 1 I'm not flip from that. I'm Queen's Flip.

Speaker 1 Told him directly. Well, she's talking.

Speaker 1 Well, now they know you. Like, Patrod.

Speaker 1 Yo, he's one of Joe Bun's co-hosts. Nah, I'm Queensflip.
Like, he knows me, miss. He knows me.
They telling you who this man is. Don't compare me.

Speaker 1 Because he's going to use it.

Speaker 1 So you are. But you are a Joe Bungo.
From the Joe Button podcast. No, I'm not.
I'm Queen's Flip. But that's how they heard of you.
And I'm on the Joe Bun podcast, not from.

Speaker 1 Did you not mention JBP when you tried to get into that show last week? No. No.
Oh, that's it. Maybe you should have mentioned that.
It's an ego thing with him and I. It's a power thing.

Speaker 1 That's why you stayed outside. That's why you was.
Right. He fucked with me.

Speaker 1 Bruce winning. That's how he was boguing up the first.
Bruce winning.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 He did the slick shit again. The man said you was boggling in the parking lot.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I wasn't bogling in the parking lot, but I was in the parking lot, though.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking at Barclays Saturday. Who's winning the ego battle? I'm winning now.

Speaker 1 He was winning. He was destroying me, nigga.

Speaker 1 Sonic, but I'm back. I'm back.
I'm back. He was bodying me, nigga.

Speaker 1 All right, just so you know, I am not competing. You started it.
You told me you are. You started it.
Yo, this power struggle, ego battle. I'm going to come out.
You told me this.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think that you set the premise.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because you work here.

Speaker 1 So the level of resistance you were offering was unacceptable to me. And I have to find alternative ways to teach that to you.
I still ain't learned. I know.
I still ain't learned.

Speaker 1 I know, because you don't like that.

Speaker 1 He hated that. I like that.

Speaker 1 He don't like that shit. He don't give a fuck.
Flip no fuck with that. Rich is rambunctious.

Speaker 1 Rebellious. No, no.
All of the R words, if you spell rambunctious with a R. What?

Speaker 1 I don't know how he spelled shit. All the R words.
Don't point at him, nigga. R-R-E? Watch your fucking mouth.
That's R. That was crazy.

Speaker 1 Watch yourself, nigga. I noticed some slick little undertone in your little R word.
He said R word in our point. I wasn't thinking about you.
What's the other R word?

Speaker 1 Name some more. I said rambunctious and rebellious.
You said all the R words.

Speaker 1 What's another one? I don't know. That was the end of mine.

Speaker 1 All right, all right. I'm missing whatever joke y'all are saying.

Speaker 1 They thought you were calling him a tard.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's what you were saying.
I wasn't even thinking when I do that. I haven't thought that since you're not.
I don't, I don't. Yeah, but that's just one.

Speaker 1 Since earlier in the show, when you said you listened to the book of Malcolm X after I gave it to you, no, I listened to the audio book. You knew I listened to it because I told you.

Speaker 1 That's the only time I thought maybe because I had your physical book.

Speaker 1 You had me, huh? You followed, like, you had it reading to you while you skipped. Nah, nah.
That's what I was talking about. With his finger on the word.

Speaker 1 You know what's so funny about y'all niggas? What?

Speaker 1 That's you. You're not a nigga.
But maybe you are. Listen, you know what's so funny about y'all? You should be ashamed of yourself, doc.

Speaker 1 You should be a shit trying to highlight somebody who you make, and you be calling me the R word.

Speaker 1 I didn't call you, you brought the R.

Speaker 1 You should be ashamed.

Speaker 1 You should be ashamed of yourself. You should be wanting to teach, wanting to

Speaker 1 come together, wanting to help.

Speaker 1 You don't inspire me, nigga. No, you don't inspire me.
That's good. You insult.
You insult like a nigga that got picked on his whole life. And I don't think that's the case.
I'm not, bro.

Speaker 1 I wasn't even thinking about you being a brought that up. No, your man did.
I didn't bring that up. He didn't think about you being

Speaker 1 thought you were until you said

Speaker 1 the more you say it, the more we have that it is. I'm sorry.
Thank you. Nobody thought that you were a nigga.
You can't do that because I thought the same thing flipped. He didn't say that.

Speaker 1 Well, he said all of that. All the R-words.
Hey, Yomon, you know what's so crazy? Your mark? I had such deep admiration for you. That's the funny part.
Yo, listen at the table, man.

Speaker 1 I got to teach you a couple of things, yo. Sure, I can teach you, bro.
I know you can.

Speaker 1 Don't DM Shannon.

Speaker 1 You do shit for.

Speaker 1 Come on, flip, man. Watch on I wasn't even thinking about it.
I like YouTube, bro. I wouldn't even think about Pat.

Speaker 1 But why is it bad if somebody knows you as a co-host from the Joe Button podcast? Because I'm still Queensflip. I walked in the building as Queensflip.

Speaker 1 I was just surprised after Miss Pat up there as Sirius, when she introduced me, it's on video. I looked at her, like, this is one of Joe Button's co-hosts.
It's flip. Not even Queensflip, girl.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Queensflip. It's 5 million.
But that's how they know you. No.
That's a good thing. I didn't get in the building like that.
We're not saying that. But we're saying that's how a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Now they don't call you fucking shit. A lot of people don't know.
Hey, watch your fucking mouth. Flip.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen and i'm i'm i'm not trying to shoot watch your mouth listen to what i'm saying though let's say your reach was here

Speaker 1 and then see i didn't do that

Speaker 1 and then getting on this platform took your reach here so there's a gap of people that might only know you from the joe button podcast hey but let me let me share something do you agree with that no okay if my reach is here

Speaker 1 and joe brought me up here

Speaker 1 Cool, I understand that. Right? You're welcome.
Thank you. But nigga, here didn't stop.
All he had did was grow, nigga, while I'm here, nigga. I came with my own fucking enterprise, nigga.

Speaker 1 Watch your fucking mouth. I didn't know that, though.
Nah, nah, nah, nah. Fuck you, nigga.
You know who you are.

Speaker 1 You know who you are.

Speaker 1 You interview Alpo. Look what he playing.

Speaker 1 You said, what?

Speaker 1 You interviewed Alpo, yo.

Speaker 1 Bro, you know who you are. This isn't a joke, so don't take it the wrong way.
You like Johnny Gill. Johnny Gill was a star on his own.
Then he joined New Edition.

Speaker 1 He don't be like, I'm not Johnny Gill from New Edition. And now he made other shit after New Edition, and he's a bigger star, but but he stood

Speaker 1 with the other Johnny Gill rumors. Yep.
And I knew that's that's my

Speaker 1 see? That's why

Speaker 1 I got a big heel.

Speaker 1 He's my man.

Speaker 1 Yes. I was just shocked she did that because it's something between him and I.
I know. I know.

Speaker 1 You know, her doing that is going to lead to him feeling. Exactly.
That's all. I know.
I know.

Speaker 1 When she introduced me, I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's the first time that happened in a while.

Speaker 1 So shit, yeah, it's all good, though. Shout out to JVP, man.
And shout out to you. Yeah, thank you, thank you.
All right, what else we got? What else we got?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's all I had in music, was Coco Jones and Destin Conrad. If you're an R B lover, please check out those albums.
Really good projects.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? I ain't have nothing written down outside of Shannon.

Speaker 1 Let me just make sure here. Oh, yeah, ain't a thing written down here.
Mark, you wrote Kalani up there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shout out to my sister, Kaylani.

Speaker 1 Shout out to her.

Speaker 1 I didn't know y'all were related.

Speaker 1 I didn't know y'all were related.

Speaker 1 That's the whole man. I need to actually find out what happened.
But she was, she had a speech at Cornell University. Yeah.
And it was canceled.

Speaker 1 No shocker there. I've been canceled from a million speeches, so I understand.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her advocacy, her political advocacy, particularly for Palestine, got her canceled.

Speaker 1 I don't think anybody should be surprised at that. You should be surprised at this point if they allow you to still come.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? But there is a bigger trend that we should pay attention to right now. People are getting canceled.
Say it right here. What would you say? Say it right here.

Speaker 1 People are getting, free speech is under attack. And at at some point,

Speaker 1 I'm ignoring him. People, free speech is under attack.

Speaker 1 And in this Trump era, whether it's universities, whether it's jobs, they're making it so that your political beliefs are stopping you from getting a job, keeping a job, earning money as a contractor or as a fully hired employee.

Speaker 1 It's just a dangerous moment. We got to fight to stop that from happening.
All right. So I think there's a big misconception on free speech.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Free speech don't mean you could say whatever the fuck you want and just move on like nothing happened. And I think a lot of people, that's what they believe free speech is.

Speaker 1 Like, even when they say First Amendment, free speech,

Speaker 1 the First Amendment don't mean say whatever the fuck you want. It just means you're free from being like locked up

Speaker 1 for your belief. But people can make choices.
Right. But choices come with consequences.
Yeah. And that's the part that a lot of people forget when they go out here and say these things.

Speaker 1 This is money. This is corporation involved.
This is business. So

Speaker 1 if you go somewhere and say the wrong thing on a platform or you whatever, it can affect you down the line. Damn, did Ice just school a doctor? I'm about to say what type of muffins are y'all.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You're about to get returned.
I'm a guy. That's my guy.
I'm moving. That's my guy.
Well, let's get that fresh aroma.

Speaker 1 You might want to wait a minute.

Speaker 1 What kind of muffins Ice got? Yeah, I don't have anything. So fix that up.
So here's my risk.

Speaker 1 Nasty muffins. Oh, bad.
Well, allow me to retort. All right.

Speaker 1 The issue isn't consequences for free speech. I agree with you.
If somebody stands up and says, I hate all black people, I don't think they should have to give a speech at Howard, right?

Speaker 1 I think we can cancel them and say, you're not in line with our values. I'm okay with that.
I think it's dangerous to do that with Kalani, who's actually speaking against genocide.

Speaker 1 So first I would just put that out there, right? She's speaking out against the human rights crisis. But my issue is the places she's being disinvited from are places that say we want free speech.

Speaker 1 So if you say, I don't want somebody who has this belief at your company, at your business, or whatever, cool. If you say, I want to buy this person's album, cool, right?

Speaker 1 That's the stuff you're talking about we're in agreement on that where we disagree or where i think it's not applicable is a university is supposed to have everybody it's supposed to have every point of view and that's what we disagree

Speaker 1 no no no i'm saying university a university has a board they got people they answer to no no they have that no no no especially at ivy league school yeah i'm not being naive i'm saying they purport themselves to be doing that while doing the opposite of course and i'm saying that's why people are outraged so it's not that people are trying to hide from the consequences of free speech i think that's what happens when people get mad that people don't buy their albums or buy their records they get fired from like when i got fired from from Fox News I wasn't I wasn't mad right I didn't like it but I understood that my values were different than theirs and my free speech stops me from going to jail but I'm not entitled to a job at Fox News.

Speaker 1 I am entitled to speak at a university.

Speaker 1 You're not entitled to speak at a university. That's not true.
If your message goes against

Speaker 1 if your message can cause a problem or too much distraction or too much noise for said university, they have the right to say, hey, yo, we don't want that.

Speaker 1 So here's, I think we're talking past each other for a second. They have a right to disinvite Kelani, sure.
Yes.

Speaker 1 What I said was there's a bigger issue around free speech, which universities are shutting down free speech, not allowing

Speaker 1 a variety of ideas to be articulated. They're firing faculty, for example, for speaking on certain issues.
They're doxing students. Columbia University recently said that

Speaker 1 they're going to be taking away degrees from people for having certain free speech. That's the issue for me.
Now, with Kalani, I think it's fucked up that they're not letting Kalani speak.

Speaker 1 But it's actually not okay to police the discourse, right?

Speaker 1 You can't say, well, I'm only going to have people who are pro-Second Amendment and not have people who are anti-Second Amendment.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to invite all the pro-gun speakers and not, if I'm staying as university, saying we want all the ideas. Mark, but

Speaker 1 that is where Ice and I fundamentally disagree with what you're saying. We're saying in this country, what you are can 100% be different than what you say you are.

Speaker 1 And most businesses here anyway operate like that. What do you say to that? That universities aren't businesses.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that's we are just going to say that. Structurally, they're non-profits.
Structurally,

Speaker 1 they're designed and organized to not do that. That's the reason they have a tenure system.
That's the reason why I have all these things is to make sure that people's speech is protected.

Speaker 1 And so I'm saying, if this were a company,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be mad.

Speaker 1 See, I'm of the belief that colleges are businesses.

Speaker 1 In reality, yes. They are in reality.

Speaker 1 I'm speaking in reality terms, though. Not the best.

Speaker 1 Right, and I'm criticizing them for not living up to the values that they say they're doing.

Speaker 1 That's the criticism. That's my point.
You can have at it with that. And in the age of Trump,

Speaker 1 they're making it so much worse that they're saying like... More obvious.
That's just more obvious, more illegal. They're banning students.
For example, they're saying...

Speaker 1 Trump is telling universities, if you don't play ball, we're not going to allow you to have any more foreign students.

Speaker 1 We're not going to let you have any more international students, which is a way of draining their money for not having a certain position.

Speaker 1 Governments are saying, for example, on the Palestine issue in particular, they're saying if you criticize Israel, you can't get funding from us or you can't get a grant from us.

Speaker 1 These are illegal acts. Those things are actually illegal because it becomes discriminatory.
I'm with you there.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. Yeah, and that's so for me, it's not about Kailani who can, that you know, that's a small issue.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that free speech is literally under attack in places where it's supposed to be in a way that it's never been before, right? Okay, exactly. I can agree with that.
And I can agree with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so put the fucking muffin mix away. Oh, shit.
But you have a different.

Speaker 1 I like that shit.

Speaker 1 I don't care. I don't care.
You have a different

Speaker 1 views on college than I do, though. Yeah.
So I see it. Right.
I see it. Because

Speaker 1 those are the places where I'm serious. I don't have any faith in them.

Speaker 1 I have no faith in them. I have no faith in him, but it's more that I work at one.
And like, you know, do y'all understand tenure at a university? I don't.

Speaker 1 So the whole point of tenure is, so a tenure is, I'm a tenure professor, so I really can't be fired. After a certain number of years at a university, you go through a process and you get tenured.

Speaker 1 And once you're locked in, pretty much. Yeah, forever.
How many years is that? It's usually seven. It depends, but seven is general, and you have to do some things to get it.

Speaker 1 And if you get approved for tenure, you're tenured forever.

Speaker 1 So you still have to get approved. It's not, I could do the time and be tenured.
No, no, no, no. You have to be voted.
And that's why they make it like almost like a haze.

Speaker 1 You have to publish a lot of work or you have to have a certain teaching record. You have to prove that you're worthy.
And this is amongst all colleges? Just about, with very few exceptions.

Speaker 1 But one of the things, so let me say that. The logic behind tenure initially was to protect faculty from unpopular ideas.

Speaker 1 The idea was that if I'm at a university and I want to speak out against the logic of the day, if I want to write a controversial book or I want to make a scientific claim that's unpopular,

Speaker 1 flat earth. I said unpopular, not stupid, right? But

Speaker 1 sure.

Speaker 1 But whatever it is, but whatever it is, I can't be fired. So our tenure protects me from that, so I have a safe place from which to operate.

Speaker 1 Because in the 50s, for example, you know, during the red baiting and all the communist stuff, they were going to universities looking for the commies and they were trying to literally fire faculty who had different politics.

Speaker 1 Is this true no matter how outrageous? Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's the point.
It could be something that we think is disgusting.

Speaker 1 People wrote, like in the 80s, the bell curve, 90s, the bell curve came out, which basically black people aren't very smart scientifically, right? But they're tenured. But the idea is...

Speaker 1 No. But the idea, so that's what the universities are designed to protect these things.
That's my point.

Speaker 1 But what's happening now in this era is they're also trying to get rid of tenure.

Speaker 1 They're trying to hire more people who are untenurable, the part-time professors, the graduate students, so that people can't. Oh, they found a workaround.

Speaker 1 They're finding a workaround so that they can police people.

Speaker 1 They're still not removing tenure. They're just getting people that are not eligible for it.
Right.

Speaker 1 But also a woman, Maura Finkelstein,

Speaker 1 last year was tenured and got fired

Speaker 1 for tweets she made at Mueller Bird College in Pennsylvania. Did she have any fight? Like any type of course for that?

Speaker 1 They went back and forth.

Speaker 1 She actually bumped into her at the celebrity Muslim event, and she said that they settled something or that she decided to resign so that she wouldn't look like she got fired.

Speaker 1 But this is what I'm saying. It's just a crazy moment right now.
So, you just said Trump is threatening to take away some of the funding. Yeah.
So, then, what position are you in?

Speaker 1 Now, you're not going to get any international students. He's basically putting their back against the wall.
That's what you mean. And they're compelling.
They have to play ball.

Speaker 1 So, they have to comply. Harvard told them to fuck off, but Harvard has more money than God, right? And Columbia.
I don't like that. Well, they and Harvard did that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But what if they do that to Morehouse? What if they do that to Hampton or Dell State? What if they do that to?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Harvard's endowment is in the tens of billions,

Speaker 1 right? That's how much money they have reserved.

Speaker 1 Morehouse might have, I don't know what Morehouse is, but there are a lot of HBCUs that have 10 million, 15 million. They can't afford to not get federal funds.
They can't afford to take the

Speaker 1 stance. Exactly.
And this has never happened in the history of American education before. Shit, speaking of Trump, you see his website is selling Trump 2028 shirts now.
Yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 I thought that was a joke. I was like, How long did it take for him to ride? What?

Speaker 1 Was it like 24-hour shipping? Yo, yo, you, you, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But that. Oh, he ain't going nowhere without a fight.
That is crazy, bro. It is crazy.
Harvard's endowment is $53.2 billion. Sheesh.
What? Yeah. They got different money.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And they're controlling the world. They can take the fight.
Yep. Yeah.
That's it. Or the stance.
Yep. Got it.

Speaker 1 Still ain't bake no muffins, nigga. Fuck out of here.
Oh, I didn't think I baked muffins. I would have said my muffins did.

Speaker 1 He just turned the oven off. That's what I said.
I said, put the oven mix away. That's cool.
I said, I didn't get it. No, no,

Speaker 1 his muffins were in the oven, nigga. You talking about putting the mix away.
It was already mixed. Okay.

Speaker 1 He came to the fight. Yeah, just shut the oven up.
I'm here for it. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 Okay, we did music. We did Kevin Gates.

Speaker 1 We prayed for the Arenas family. We did Lil Wayne, Quest Love.

Speaker 1 Sad news. We got to cue it up.
Quest Love. Queue it up.
No, no. That's my man.
It hurts. Queue it up.
Pause.

Speaker 1 That was crazy.

Speaker 1 I said pause, man. We We never gonna grow up, yo.

Speaker 1 We should.

Speaker 1 It's no fun.

Speaker 1 It really is no fun growing up. Nah.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 All right, this hurts. This one hurts.
I don't like this one. This one hurts.
That's my man. I'm slowing it down.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Hey, make it quick. Pause.

Speaker 1 Quest Love into this podcast.

Speaker 1 It appears that way. Quest Love Super Support.
They have finale Quest Love Supreme, one of my favorite podcasts. Same.

Speaker 1 Mostly interviews with prominent musicians, artists, and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 Have announced finales, series finales. They may just be reshaping it in some format.
I don't know the full details.

Speaker 1 Here's what I know. The numbers were good.
It's popular.

Speaker 1 This isn't a situation where it failed or it collapsed. I think they just want, like you said, we need 100 million.
Oh, right.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful. Yeah, don't shit.
Be careful.

Speaker 1 9 million. Might be 100 available soon, but

Speaker 1 look Look at this dax. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I can't help myself. Let me start.

Speaker 1 You got to stop that shit, though.

Speaker 1 Just DM the nigga to be cool with him. Stop.
I'm a terrible person. I'm sorry.
That's your man. Come on.
But shout out to Quest Love to Laid. Feonte.
Yeah. The whole crew.
They're all my people.

Speaker 1 But Margaret.

Speaker 1 If I'm on the volume,

Speaker 1 that's fucked up that that happened to Shannon.

Speaker 1 However. But why DM me? I was thinking about a little raise anyway.

Speaker 1 Time to have a combo.

Speaker 1 100 mil just got freed up, or so I think.

Speaker 1 Time to have a combo. Oh, nigga.
You could give me one of them, milk. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 What will I do if fucking it goes?

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 More bathroom.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy, I got s ⁇ .

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, don't say that. Let's jump in, junk and junk.
All right, moving on, moving on, moving on. I'm sad to see Quest Love Supreme.
Me too.

Speaker 1 One of my faves. Move on.
It's really one of the best music nerd podcasts that have ever existed. Yes.
Quest Love, we love you, man. For sure.

Speaker 1 Y'all so dumb, man. Well, it's really mean.

Speaker 1 It's all you. And he can't help himself.
That's what makes it bad. When I told y'all, when I'm 46, 47.
No, you're not, Joe. I'm telling you.
No, you're not.

Speaker 1 Nah, for real, because my girl is already having talks. Like, what are you going to change? You're 45 and you're father.
I want you to be living like this. Like, all right.

Speaker 1 At some point, I do have to change. You're right, baby.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I hear you fuck today, though. Do y'all believe in unconditional love?

Speaker 1 Yeah, from like a baby. Yes.
A pet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pet.

Speaker 1 Love comes with conditions, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe in unconditional love.
From? From God?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Not from God.

Speaker 1 The most conditional. Yeah, right.
They got rules.

Speaker 1 You love nobody but me. Right.
I'm thinking more

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 children. Got it.
That's about the only place where I feel. Parents are terrible at.
I think the children love us unconditionally.

Speaker 1 I think parents love their children quite conditionally. I think that's some human construct shit.
Them kids don't know us, heroes give a fuck about us. That's true.

Speaker 1 I don't mean from birth, but I mean like you can develop. I say you can develop that kind of relationship.
I agree. you know what I mean yeah do you believe in having a favorite kid

Speaker 1 that pose acting up right um I think we had a little interference from Toledo that was me and my girl first fight to the parents here to the parents here do y'all believe in favorite kids

Speaker 1 that was me and my girl first fight

Speaker 1 I told I observed I told her she has a favorite kid everybody has a favorite kid that she ain't like that shit that shouldn't be a fight she didn't like that shit she was like she don't like it like that

Speaker 1 she don't like it now it is true though. Which one's your favorite?

Speaker 1 Even if you're not ready to admit that. No.
It is true. One is just the most behaved.

Speaker 1 No, that's a different.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about the best behaved. I'm talking about the kid that you like better than the other ones.
Nah.

Speaker 1 My mom's way to answer that question, because she has two boys, me and my older brother, was always,

Speaker 1 yes, I have a favorite. You're my favorite for six months.
He's my favorite for six months. That's a good answer.
That's a good answer. That's a nice, safe way to play that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 My parents said that. That's kind kind of what she said.
You got a favorite for sure. I don't got a favorite.
Yes, you do. You do.
You don't want the one that keeps them off you.

Speaker 1 Nah, that's not my favorite. That's not your favorite.

Speaker 1 I don't got the reason you could walk around. So you don't believe that? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 1 Me being around. You got my favorite.
Me being around JR a lot more because they work together. That's not my favorite.
No. I didn't say that.
And nobody ever said JR. I didn't say nothing to start.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 I love all my children equally. And that's what I'm saying.
We We didn't say nothing about love, sure. A lot of these niggas about love.
Everybody loves their kids equally.

Speaker 1 We're not talking about love. No, no.

Speaker 1 You can have... I don't have a favorite child.
No.

Speaker 1 Me, person. You got a big dog.
Shit, I would have a child.

Speaker 1 I've experienced

Speaker 1 when people think that you're the favorite or think that I'm the favorite or think that my brother was the favorite. Like, I experienced that in real time and what that does to the family.

Speaker 1 And that, you know, just the

Speaker 1 arguments and the confusion of what it does. Nigga, I always vowed that when I have my own children, I'll never do that.
So I don't have any favorites. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's some kids, like she said, I do agree. Some kids behave more than others.

Speaker 1 Some kids you may reward for their behavior more than others because you have to show the other child, like, yo, this is what you get when you act or you walk this path.

Speaker 1 But that don't mean that you're my favorite because you behave. You may just give me less of a headache, but there's something that you may do that I love just as much as what you may do.

Speaker 1 Do you like hanging out with one more than the other?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, I don't like hanging out more. No, I love hanging out with all my children equally.

Speaker 1 That's dope. That's dope.
Do you have a favorite child, Joe?

Speaker 1 Yo, watch yourself.

Speaker 1 One of them niggas like

Speaker 1 me. Pick the one that watches the show.
Yeah, but no.

Speaker 1 Say a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 Trey is my favorite child because I was blessed enough to have a child when I was 20 years old. So I do think it's fly for me to be 44 and my son to be turning

Speaker 1 25.

Speaker 1 Like we have a different connection and it's different than me and Lex. So yes, he's my favorite until I'm around Lex, who I'm around at an age that I didn't see my oldest son in.

Speaker 1 So I'm like in a warped

Speaker 1 they're both my favorites because I missed it.

Speaker 1 I missed these times. I'm getting different experiences.
That's hard. That's all I'm saying.
That's how I am. I have such different, I have three very different parents.

Speaker 1 So when I'm with Trey, he's my favorite. And when I'm with Lex, he's my favorite.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And when I'm with both of them, it's not about how I feel about either. It's important that y'all love one each other and do all that brother, brother, brother shit.

Speaker 1 Fire. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Good guy. This is a good one.
Yeah. Clean it up.
You got out of there. Yeah, yeah, you got out of there.
You got to. Nigga, man, I never diss record about you, though.

Speaker 1 You just see the whole clip record.

Speaker 1 No, that's my man. He's going to stop dissing me.
No, he not. He haven't dissed you the lawyer yet.
He's going to stop dissing me. Now that I've been to the live show and seen how he's introduced,

Speaker 1 yeah, enough of those.

Speaker 1 Don't tell me they do the. Told y'all, you get on stage or what?

Speaker 1 All right, coming to the stage. No, no, that's him, actually.
He'd be up there. Yo, you familiar with the name, but not the face.
Like, yeah, dog, all right.

Speaker 1 If you're doing that,

Speaker 1 there ain't gonna be too much.

Speaker 1 You can't diss me now. Not too much on button.
If you're leading with this. Not too much on button at all.
Buddy. And this summer, I'm gonna bring him down to the family reunion for the first time

Speaker 1 around the buttons. Around the button buttons.

Speaker 1 That's going to be fun. So, yeah, he's going to really see what being a button means.
I'm going to bring him down to the

Speaker 1 live show. So our grave site, to the button grave site.
Let him see all the buttons from the 1700s, from 1690 or some shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the history of you. The history of this.
So you can know who you are from when I'm not here anymore. So you can

Speaker 1 have that family pride that I have.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. I don't have anything else, but I didn't have anything on my list to start.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 you just had Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's all I had. So, it's totally up to y'all.
Where we out of time? 302. Oh! I'm like saying,

Speaker 1 Sleeper, sleeper. Where'd you get those sleepers?

Speaker 1 We knew that, though.

Speaker 1 We knew that. No, y'all was too thirsty.
We knew we was going. Y'all was too thirsty.
No, y'all was too thirsty. Who was thirsty?

Speaker 1 New music. Right.
That's how you get your sleeper. Nah, nah.
Fuck you. Coco Jones.
No. I'm like, oh, shit.
He was like, oh, shit. Okay, we out.
Okay, say less. No, not at all.
Not at all. Thirsty.

Speaker 1 Thirsty for the sleepers.

Speaker 1 I am going with Coco Jones.

Speaker 1 And this record is right after track four. I played track three earlier.
This is track four, A E O M G.

Speaker 1 Right after that is our cardiac track, Thank For You, track five. The sequencing on this is nuts.
This is Coco Jones, A E O M G.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm playing all the songs you can fuck to, man.

Speaker 1 See me on the counter, neighbors need to pray for you. You can room me, oomie, I'm a jeweler, let you.
Bet you wanna make me your wife,

Speaker 1 bet you got a big appetite. Fresh up by the shower, but it's getting filthy.
Using all my bubbles, things I wanna stand in, talking bout it.

Speaker 1 Oh my god,

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much

Speaker 1 Baby, don't take it easy on me No, I'm also keep becoming cause

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much

Speaker 1 A e

Speaker 1 oh my god A e

Speaker 1 oh my god

Speaker 1 A A E E oh my God, A A E E oh my God. Now waste my time, I'm up in your city.
We could run a boo, now we on a mission. Tell the music up for me.
Oh lord, you know I can sing on it, no cold.

Speaker 1 Fresh up out the shower, but it's getting filthy. Using all my bowels, legs up on the ceiling, talking bout A-A-E-E.
Oh my God, you gon' make me fall in love.

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much.

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much.

Speaker 1 Baby, don't take it easy on me. No, I'm not so keep me coming hard.

Speaker 1 Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much.

Speaker 1 A-A-E-E, you're my girl.

Speaker 1 AAE, you're my girl.

Speaker 1 A-A-E-E-O my girl.

Speaker 1 That's brand new music from Coco Jones

Speaker 1 in your phone and on DSPs right now. That record is called A-E-O-M-G

Speaker 1 on their brand new album. Again, check it out if you have not heard it yet.
Shout out to Coco Jones.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get that Coco Jones album the second we done up here. It's fire.

Speaker 1 I didn't know she dropped, but I fucked with her. Yeah, no, she's fine.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the A.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 Belly Gang Cushington.

Speaker 1 I know. The name is crazy, though.
No, we're making fun of you with the A. You're going to the A.
You're going to the A. We're children.
Don't mind us. Yeah, it's fine.
It's a pass. You're good.

Speaker 1 You're good.

Speaker 1 You know what? It was a. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We discussed it.

Speaker 1 The refs got together, we discussed it. Right, so

Speaker 1 you kind of got

Speaker 1 going today.

Speaker 1 See,

Speaker 1 it's his favorite place to go.

Speaker 1 Anyway, he has a new album out today called The Streets Is Yours, and this record is 75 on 75.

Speaker 1 I've been selling drugs so long, my mama starting to give a poke. It's so much cracking here, I think I need a strip of pole.
Glass all around me like them A-rounds at the liver store.

Speaker 1 You break your bike, you take it to dice. I took a peek for 75K on 75.
But these little niggas, they not gang in real life. They catch a case and when they get in the courtroom, they comply.

Speaker 1 Damn, son.

Speaker 1 Where the fuck you find this? Shooting dice in the hood, I trade 4G and this. My dad ain't never been shit, I don't feel like Brendan.
All strapped up like them hoes, they drew skin. Be wanted,

Speaker 1 lesbian, prostitute, these niggas ain't fucking on me. I'm in the kitchen with a falcon to bowl and stole, these niggas ain't cooking on me.

Speaker 1 I'm in the street every day, these feds so many crackers be looking at me, they be juggin' at me. I be letting my uncle said a room, he took on the piece.

Speaker 1 He took on the chrome, I'ma cut off his own, I'm cut off his door. He lied, I'ma cut off his toe.
Tray five, I'm Kevin the Rome. Can't lie, I'm one of the ones.

Speaker 1 Can't fly, I go on the wrong, can't fly, I go. I'm in this black truck with a gun tucked in the seat, though, like I'm going to borrow him.
Outside trapping in some car heart like I'm going to farm.

Speaker 1 Mook out 2021. I had caught a couple cases, I couldn't even get a bunch.
I couldn't even get around it. Drop the bat, 6,000.
Nigga, I came up from wearing work up in the sixth house.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I came up from busting fake chats, it was Insta County. Nigga, I came up from Venus switching whips, that's impounding.

Speaker 1 Yo, Chris

Speaker 1 And again, that record is 75 on 75 by Belly Gang Cushington. Album is called Streets.
The Streets Is Yours.

Speaker 1 New project, it's a lot of.

Speaker 1 I listen to them. I'm like, damn, the samples in here.
Like, he flipped M's Cleaning Out My Closet.

Speaker 1 He got a lot of expensive samples in here.

Speaker 1 Good rapping. I know it was a lot of heat around some of his content and stuff and some of the city was saying, but good project if you're a good man.
It sounded good. It sounded good.
He could rap.

Speaker 1 He could rap.

Speaker 1 I'm going to check out the whole project.

Speaker 1 So I didn't get all the way through Ray Volley's new album, but I got through enough to know that I like this song, Dollar Menu.

Speaker 1 save my life.

Speaker 1 Places

Speaker 1 anxious.

Speaker 1 Who must be nice?

Speaker 1 Don't let you

Speaker 1 save my life.

Speaker 1 Here go this nigga. Hey, hey, nigga, what's up, bro? What you want to do?

Speaker 1 Dollar, me, you save my life. Maybe everything gon' be alright.
Ten piece for my mama. Didn't eat that night.
Promise I'ma keep it 99 cents for life. Last night I had sleep for dinner

Speaker 1 Mama

Speaker 1 Mama Ookie stepped at a dope theme know how to sell drugs, know how to sell dreams Age of 14 I was doing my own thing But mama, I'm hungry

Speaker 1 Cause last night I had sleep for dinner

Speaker 1 In my conscience, he waved more than me from the women I hurt, from the people I lead, from the fires I feed, find a job on NP.

Speaker 1 Cause last night I only had sleep for dinner In Hell's Kitchen with the recipe for disaster In Long Beach your name plasma Would donate my sperm but I can't cause I know how it feel to be bastard And last night I only had sleep for dinner Couldn't even pour a tapey dinner Got a bank for that kid

Speaker 1 calendar Don't know how many days left on my calendar

Speaker 1 Yeah, standing on couches cause I'm trying to fuck that bitch bring the bottles to me Y'all be in DMs begging these hoes, I feed off the dollar me

Speaker 1 Started off broke, now I got that money on Blinky, I got it with me

Speaker 1 Y'all be in DMs begging these hoes, I feed off the dollar meet forehead bitch, throw it back, throw it back Hate raps, but I love her rats Wait, what's that low on his hat?

Speaker 1 LA Chummy, do you know where you at? Take the order, make a mick double back Sitting at your window with a big mac.

Speaker 1 Ain't ashamed that I used to wear shacks. Cause I hit a home run, slide top four bats.
Bear binds, when I do my look, every time. Pop out, got them shook, every time.

Speaker 1 Niggas always cry whoops, every time. Putting money on books, every time.
And it's like that. Gotta go out with not look twice at.
Everything going good like a white stack.

Speaker 1 I'm tearing through the city in a white cap. Standing on couches, cause I'm trying to fuck that bitch.
Bring your bottles to me.

Speaker 1 Y'all be in DMs begging these hoes. I feed off the dollar meal.

Speaker 1 Started off broke, now I got that money on Blinky. I got it with me.
Y'all be in DMs, begging these hoes, I feed off the dollar meal.

Speaker 1 It's Big Back Junior, Mr. Pie Scraper.
I'm the Lord's favorite. Throw a lot of money, do a lot of saving.
Don't tell that bitch, hand my son, let some shade it. Kick beef with my BMs, I made it.

Speaker 1 I keep checking my DMs, I made it. I'm part of the motion club, I made them.
Nigga, I'm me, you, you, you hated. Look, if I got a roster, might catch a bougie, bitch, and even my costa.

Speaker 1 Leave it in the crib, uh. She wants a tea, but she only gon' take all the shades of my shopper.
Just get a t-shirt. She don't fuck with scars, cause she wants that body that she give from doctors.

Speaker 1 Come fuck with a whopper, whopper. Come fuck with a whopper.

Speaker 1 Standing on couches, then I'm trying to fuck that bitch, bringing bottles.

Speaker 1 That is Dollar Menu by Ray Vaughn

Speaker 1 off his new project, which I don't know the title to off the top of my head. That was absolutely crazy.
Yeah. Oh, it's called The Good Bad in the Dollar Menu.
It's the name of the album.

Speaker 1 That's absolutely insane. Which, from what I've heard, is really dope.
I can't wait to listen to the rest of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's dope. That particular song

Speaker 1 was bonkers. Yeah.
He's dope. Shout out to Rayvon.
For sure.

Speaker 1 Got a track from the new Black Samson, the Bastard Swordsman. That's the Wu-Tang Clan and Mathematics album.
First time everybody and Wu have been together since like 11 years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The track is called Claudine.

Speaker 1 You ever feel like pain

Speaker 1 when you lose someone that's so much dear to your heart? Knowing that you'll never get those moments back

Speaker 1 Wishing you could bring them back

Speaker 1 Just to hug him and just hold them and kiss them one time

Speaker 1 Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I'm not going through.

Speaker 1 I don't know why,

Speaker 1 but I know that you

Speaker 1 are

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 And that's all that matters now.

Speaker 1 If I got you,

Speaker 1 oh, you got me.

Speaker 1 You'll see.

Speaker 1 I got one for the lovers, two for the ones we love.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 We gotta keep it up, yeah.

Speaker 1 We not losing love.

Speaker 1 Three for the summers, four for the nights we cry.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, we keep

Speaker 1 trying.

Speaker 1 Keep falling for our love.

Speaker 1 I only love her when she mad at me. She mad, scrappy, that makeup, sex, be mad, nasty.
Our heads be bumping like bad acne. It's sad, actually.

Speaker 1 She turned her back to get back at me, then backtrack me But we happy, just take it back and don't backstab me If that's my story, I'm sticking to it I'm that tacky If she the mama, I'll be the patient No need to ask me If she attract me, I blow her back and she need a nappy In the fetal position like in the womb You don't feel like giving I'm once, she'll be feeling it soon Just assume another chick could never fit in your loose She's just tryna be that dish that ran away with the spoon Now If we gon' clean house, gotta start with a room One broom, I knock it clean out, never start with a goon Leave it up to boomer, we always start with a boom.

Speaker 1 I got time today, straight up, and we startin' it out. Got one for the lovers, two for the ones we love.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 We gotta keep it up, yo.

Speaker 1 We not losing love.

Speaker 1 Three for the summers, four for the nights we grumble.

Speaker 1 I know, I know. We keep

Speaker 1 trying

Speaker 1 to keep

Speaker 1 falling.

Speaker 1 old pictures.

Speaker 1 Staring at my mama in the kitchen doing dishes. Despite how she was living, who am I to judge? But what I've learned, if your mama's alive, show her love.

Speaker 1 The pain that I experienced going through the fame. Carried me for nine months, she pushed, then I came.
That's why the seat is so attracted to their mama on this plane.

Speaker 1 To never hear that voice again, it'd never be the same. When the death is fresh, it feels like your soul is soaked in.
Sadness to find yourself crying in the open.

Speaker 1 Her face was cold, she felt my tears in the casket. And every drop that fell on her cheek, I cried acid.
Abit you very foes and flowers all in the cemetery and cries, just like the end of Cooley High.

Speaker 1 Mama, come back, we miss you.

Speaker 1 Come back for a couple of days so I can just hug you and kiss you.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 We gotta keep it up, yeah.

Speaker 1 We not losing love.

Speaker 1 Three for the summers, four for the nights we cry.

Speaker 1 I know, I know we keep

Speaker 1 trying.

Speaker 1 Keep

Speaker 1 falling for our love.

Speaker 1 All right, that shit was

Speaker 1 shit. Y'all showing y'all last today.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was crazy. That was fire, fire.
Shouting to Colray, Ghost Meth. Yeah, for sure.
That was crazy. That was restoring the feeling that and that Ray Von and the Aisha.

Speaker 1 That's how y'all feeling?

Speaker 1 Good shit dropped. That's it.
Good stuff.

Speaker 1 All right, now

Speaker 1 Nyla Blackman dropped.

Speaker 1 Come on, let me hear it. Come on, we need some new Nyla.
Come on, come on.

Speaker 1 She told him she had that talk with him.

Speaker 1 Let me hear another one song. Hey, let me hear another Nyla Blackman song.
She did not have a hip play. Nyla, Tyler, nothing left.
You went to see Sinners had a little date night. Yeah, I was it.

Speaker 1 Didn't play no Nyla? No, I was one with name.

Speaker 1 You doing it right? Fix it. Yeah, they play Nylon Nyla.
And it's fixed already, nigga. Good day.

Speaker 1 When I snap my fingers, everything,

Speaker 1 you will have fixed it already.

Speaker 1 You will have fixed it already. But I started figuring you wouldn't be gay anymore.

Speaker 1 Fuck out of here. You went to see Sinners, a little movie, a little dinner.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 no more of that fucking in-the-room shit. You crazy.

Speaker 1 Got a big in-the-room coming, boy. Chill out.
I don't want to talk about that right now. Chill, chill.
Don't let them know yet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 These two, bro.

Speaker 1 Keep fucking with me.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Try to think too, bro. Chilling, man.
I'm letting the music rock. That's true.
Letting the intro rock real quick.

Speaker 1 Good part today. Yeah, yeah.
Good vibes, good energy. Thank you, brothers.
Thank you all, brothers. Shout out to you, Joe.
Y'all out there, man.

Speaker 1 Have a real good weekend.

Speaker 1 The people you love, let them know. Tell them you love them.
Hug thy neighbor. Kiss your girl by something nice, man.
Let her keep the change.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Hit your grandparents if you're blessed enough to still have grandparents. Indeed, yep.
I just went to go see mom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you got the kids this week, this weekend, or full-time, take them out, man. Take them a little trampoline bounce house or something nice, man.
Always works. Beautiful weather out there.

Speaker 1 Beautiful weather out there.

Speaker 1 Eagles.

Speaker 1 As for us, keep us in your prayers. If you've been listening, or if this was your first time listening, then Lord knows we need to be there.
Please, please.

Speaker 1 Till next time, we bid you adieu.

Speaker 1 Farewell, adios, Abriva Dirchi, Asta La Vista, Arbois, so long, goodbye.

Speaker 1 Or a simple head nod will suffice.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass.

Speaker 1 You're so good. So let's make this one last

Speaker 1 as long as we have with a hey,

Speaker 1 as if it's all we have. Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, the closed-minded women want you to cheat some things, grab you a title, no, you might need it.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Again, we want to say happy birthday to Bernice just because. Hey.

Speaker 1 Hope you're having a good time out there, girl.

Speaker 1 Eagle.

Speaker 1 Yo, again, if you have not made it out to see sinners,

Speaker 1 Come on, man. We need that money in the recruitment file.
Go ahead and check it out. Shout out to our brother Ryan Koogler.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Michael B. Jordan, man.
Great job. Great job out there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody outside having a good time this weekend. Everybody inside, cuz you did too much last weekend.
I mean, we ain't forgetting about you.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the kids. Shout out to the parents.
Shout out to the families out there.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Wait up. Hey.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Tank on Broadway. I'm going to get there, my brother.
I'm going to get there.

Speaker 1 Actually, shout out to Genuine Tyrese, all the RB heads at the Barclays this week, and I'll be there on Saturday.

Speaker 1 You going in? It's a big great show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anywhere where RB is alive and well. He's at the Barclays, he's good.
He can go in the Barclays. He can go to Barclays.

Speaker 1 Because other people went to the Barclays and didn't go in. Oh, right.
So I was just saying, is he going to go in or? I suppose Tyrese too. Oh, yeah, no, Joe Button Coles couldn't get in.

Speaker 1 Joe Button himself

Speaker 1 probably gonna walk right in. Now, no hassle at all.
Yeah. No hassle at all.
Me and fifth.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna fifth name of that nigga. Me and Fifth, man.
Go catch a little concert, a little Sierra or something nice. Oh.

Speaker 1 I mean, some RB. Yeah, you know that.
Come on, you remember that situation. Oh, shit.
I forgot about that. All right, I'll tell you.
I want y'all to be messing. All right.
See?

Speaker 1 Let's just start.

Speaker 1 All right. Let me just get out of here.

Speaker 1 After this beautiful musical breakdown, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Beautiful sounds of Curtis Mayfield.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody away and on vacation. And if you're not away on vacation, now's a good time to plan your vacation.

Speaker 1 We're approaching May. April getting out of here like it got somewhere to be.

Speaker 1 It'll be August before you know it.

Speaker 1 Don't remind me.

Speaker 1 Nah,

Speaker 1 a Turks trip might be in my future.

Speaker 1 I looked at my girl, I was like,

Speaker 1 because we've been at it. A trip is overdue for us.
We just said that. A trip is overdue for me and mine.
You got two coming up.

Speaker 1 I looked at her, I was like, yo, man, because I've been said, set it up, set it up. Where are we going? You off your dean.
I mean, if we ain't got the trip booked, then you off your dean.

Speaker 1 She was quiet. I was like, or maybe we should just take all the kids.
Let's do like a family kids trip. I'll take my kids, you take your kids.
We go to Turks and fucking turn up.

Speaker 1 I thought that was beautiful and wholesome.

Speaker 1 She looked at me, she was like,

Speaker 1 You got your fucking mind. She said, You are, you sure we don't just need a little bit of

Speaker 1 us

Speaker 1 I said, you know what, baby.

Speaker 1 There you go. You right.
You right again, girl. Hey, you've been batting a thousand on being right, baby.

Speaker 1 You're so good. Until next time, is anybody doing anything interesting over the weekend that I'll be able to exploit next week when I get back to work?

Speaker 1 We just going to see centers finally, that's it. All right, Ice and Missing Peace, going to see centers.

Speaker 1 Just around. Just around, right? No shaggy, no elephant man, no none of that.
It's bounty killer next.

Speaker 1 Hey, no vibes. Got more stuff in there.
Hey, come on. Everything coming soon.
Tell them. Yeah, they know.
Promote your shit. Positivity highlighted.
Yeah, thank you. Everything coming soon.

Speaker 1 Flip the network. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 turning up this year. Shout out to everybody, yeah.
Come on, man. You know what I mean? Making proper improv fail, but all my solo ventures.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 All my solo ventures have turned up, man. Doing better than ever.
That was fun. It's just my joint shits with Joe that's not working out.
But solo-wise,

Speaker 1 chilling. Anyway, Mark, Mark, what's up with you this weekend? I'm on the road speaking.
North Carolina, I'll see you on Saturday. Denver, I'll see you Sunday.

Speaker 1 And tonight, I'll be in Philly for a memorial service. Rest in peace to kill.
Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Speaking engagement, Sammy back on the prowl.

Speaker 1 Back out there speaking. Who cares who these institutions support?

Speaker 1 I mean, as long as I can get my bag.

Speaker 1 Surprised they didn't call him up like, yeah.

Speaker 1 I can take that.

Speaker 1 Hey, institutions, you can get me and our Kelly birthday party.

Speaker 1 Depending on how much you got, yo, y'all hold it down out there. Be safe until the next time, hold it down.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 no matter how much.

Speaker 1 And anybody out there going through a silent battle, remember you are not alone in this thing, man. Just pray to get to tomorrow.
We'll be back same time, same place next week.

Speaker 1 We love you.

Speaker 1 Hold it down.

Speaker 1 We would be unable to do this thing without y'all, man. All of you make this thing possible.
Keep us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 And until we reunite,

Speaker 1 one on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, and also to my baby mama,

Speaker 1 if I tell my son

Speaker 1 that I'm going to see you Saturday on a weekend that's not mine,

Speaker 1 you just supposed to hold it down and lie to him.

Speaker 1 You ain't supposed to really hit me up.

Speaker 1 I keep lying to my son like, yo, man, this weekend, little dude.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 yo, if you want to see me, just shoot me a text. Hey, tell your mom.
And just, do you know fucking raggedy ass sin? Keep texting me. Yo, man.
Your son looking for you sadly.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I ain't mean that.

Speaker 1 You fucking terrible.

Speaker 1 No, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. Because she's trying to get that shit off, because it's the summertime.
I done had my boy for like nine weekends.

Speaker 1 So now,

Speaker 1 I just did it already. Enough now.
It's my turn. It's my time to shine now.

Speaker 1 I done did it for nine weekends, Freeze. I'm not you.
Yeah, yeah, I ain't you, my nigga. I ain't you.

Speaker 1 You do that full-time dad shit. Yeah.
I bust

Speaker 1 and go.

Speaker 1 Let me stop. You hear your man.
No, I'm not. Joking up, joking, joking up, jumping up.
You ain't saying that shit, right?

Speaker 1 My

Speaker 1 I love you, Lex, and my baby, and everyone listening. I love you.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 You can't help it, bro.