Episode 852 | "Who’s Gonna Save Superman?"

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He ain't gonna be dolos.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, he's not gonna be dolo.

Not at night time.

Your boy Flip will be right there with him.

Flip and Jigo.

We fine, son.

What up, y'all?

What's popping up?

What up?

How y'all doing?

Yo, you.

No, you hit the button.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nigga just hit the button on you.

Please do not change the channel.

You are tuned into the right place.

Joe is not here right now, but we are here to turn up and take over the wonderful kid.

Can you please check and ring all the time?

You can start still do it without me.

I know you ain't do no country queen shit.

What do you mean?

You got the sulkinies on with Nike socks?

Yo, I got some Sulkini socks for you in the house.

I don't know how to 12-pack.

Listen, listen.

I got you.

Shout out to Sulkines.

I mean, these were given to me.

I wasn't familiar with their game, but you know, let's not highlight any part

about the guy sitting in the house.

I got some socks for you.

You're rocking a star shirt, too.

Yeah, you're looking at your.

What's that?

What's that?

You got a sponsorship?

No.

You all flipped this network and moved over there.

I'm looking very brandy.

Looking like a billboard right now.

Nah, I peep what happened?

Because Flip the Network, you don't got your shows picked up by stars.

That's what it is.

Oh, you got your shit picked up?

You ain't split me no.

You ain't, you ain't hear me?

Clap it on, Flip.

Fifth, put you on.

Your man, Fifth put you on.

Oh, shit, it's a queen's to put you on.

I'm ignorant, though.

Like, if I get a network deal, y'all never gonna see you back there.

I'm not smoking like y'all.

I ain't gonna come in playing on me, right?

I'm gonna throw it in everybody's face.

Yeah, I'm a traitor.

Words.

I'm a traitor.

I'm a brothers.

I gotta see you and all that.

The way they was talking up here.

That nigga Bright was about to seven.

Who was comparing like she just heard?

The way y'all niggas was laughing about y'all don't have the same claws.

Nah, I got smoke with all you niggas, man.

But anyway.

I don't know what I was talking about.

I love you guys.

How y'all doing?

Y'all good?

Good, man.

Great.

Glad to be here.

How was your week?

Great week.

Great week.

I hit that breezy bowl.

I'll tell you about it, though.

I'll tell you when we get there.

Mad as hell out.

Yo, I ain't going to lie.

I think everybody I ever knew

in my 49 years was at the Chris Breeze.

Everybody, yeah, for real.

None of them nights, if you ain't make the first night, you made the second one.

For real.

But

we'll talk about it, though.

What about you, E?

Oh, I ain't do nothing.

I chill.

I had a nice, relaxed week.

Why you ain't go to Breezy?

I couldn't.

I couldn't make it.

You could have made it.

How?

One of the nights you could have made it.

No, I could have made it.

Could have made it.

Man, why you make it?

You're going to stop this Breezy, yo.

No, no, listen.

When we talk about that, I'm going to go.

All right.

I'm taking on my shit.

You're Even though he down, I'm down.

I'm with him down.

He can't move, really.

You saw he just walked in the seat?

You saw he walked in.

He can't dance no more.

Nah.

That shit, I just tuck it in there.

Oh, shit.

Yo, you was tippy-toeing like

me.

You fucked your Achilles up, too.

What's up, man?

What you did?

I don't know.

Nothing.

Just.

Yo, you got a date tonight.

Yeah.

You got a date tonight.

We can always tell, man.

you got your little

chips, highway patrol glasses on.

You got a date tonight.

You got your new shoes on.

You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah, the toes fresh.

You got a date tones.

They are so nice.

And them in your first date jeans.

She got the first date jeans on.

I know.

I knew you took her.

You know.

The one that goes with...

Let me see.

No, they're the ones who walk down the stairs and they're going to be waiting for you.

You walk down the stairs.

So you didn't do nothing this week.

You was in the crib by the bookshelf.

That's exactly where I was.

I was in the bookshelf.

Just ran errands.

My life was boring this week.

It was just a lot of work.

Is Daisy okay?

Is she safe?

She's fine.

She's somewhere around here.

You know, she's here.

Yeah.

Oh, who I haven't seen in a while.

I thought if we're here, at least you know she's here.

She's alive if she's here.

What's up, Pauls?

I'm chilling, man.

How you feeling?

I feel good, man.

What you did?

I didn't do shit this week.

My wife is away, so I'm chilling.

Oh, man.

Yo, why you cut your curls?

It's summer, man.

It's hot.

Yeah.

Stop hating on them, boy.

I like curls.

I like his curls.

Yeah, of course, because you can't curl.

Don't compliment your curls all the time.

Oh, you do.

Wait, wait, wait.

What are you talking about?

I like his curls.

When you pass 49, you can say stuff like that.

What else you like?

Do you like his legs, his thighs, his colours?

Hell yeah.

Is he freaky?

Too far.

Paul, let's turn it real quick, Paul.

You ready?

Turn it.

Let's go, man.

Let's get it.

No, hold on, hold on.

What you do, nigga?

Don't try to skip over yourself.

Oh, I love it.

Oh, yes.

Did you select this?

Yes, of course.

You now tune into the JBB.

Flip.

It.

Your next

Piggity.

Yes, sir.

Kiss me.

I love me.

This is my shit.

Swing, swing.

Turn the volume up, you hear me?

Swing the spinner.

Let's go, ma'am.

You wear them shoes, you'll never wear.

Wear that dress.

Oh,

kiss me.

We need mail,

I do, but what in the Z100 is happening right now?

What the fuck?

So, kiss me.

Oh, shit.

My bad, my bad.

Don't worry, Bob, we got you.

Ah, you should have came back with some John Mayer.

Nah, nah,

we got our own stuff, boy.

Niggas is turning on right now.

I ain't gonna lie.

I'm gonna read the comments for the first time.

Let's just see

that nigga.

Yeah, a little bit.

I need to see what they're saying right now.

Mars, you ain't playing the one with Supercat, though.

Everywhere I go.

You're right.

I did.

25 years old.

Hey, my mama, God bless us all.

Sing well.

I

just wanna fly.

I see weed.

This nigga Joe is throwing the computer at this shit right now.

What the fuck?

Joe's gonna like this.

Oh, shit.

Okay.

You can tell he's not used to the man.

Look, he just talking over the back.

Yeah, look at that boy.

This shit he need to be talked over.

I wish you was something like that.

Got eyes before your lies.

When he stopped in his playlist, I was like, he did a hat.

The first time I heard a fucking fuck sing.

I feel good.

You don't know about this.

You need love.

The angry boy is into insane.

You know you're dead.

You won't be live.

You're coming home.

This is my last resource.

Suffer no sharing up, no break.

Don't give a fuck if I come on.

You are lifted in the damn space.

This is my last resource.

Show won't care if it's.

I'll deal with it definitely.

Okay, okay, hold on.

Hold on now.

Hold on this.

One, two, three,

all right.

Now I want to break something.

Look at him out, yeah.

Her white side coming out.

Yo, them niggas got hella coochie.

Look where his mind go.

Oh, he's the funniest nigga.

Herco baby was going crazy.

She's so

self-sure.

Hello, hello, hello, hello.

Hello, hello, hello, hello.

Hello, hello, hello, hello,

hello, hello.

the last sound.

Everything is

here we are now

entertainers,

I'm a stupid

entertainer,

here we are now,

entertainers,

oh,

that was good, Paul.

Damn, can we get some drops and round of applause, Bob?

You're absolutely right, bro.

I know.

It got caught up in the white so much.

There we go.

There we go.

I see.

Pause.

What episode is this, bro?

This is 852.

We got to do you.

Oh, Pause.

And Mel

and the Bonnie.

O-N-E.

O-N-E.

Fuck y'all.

Big party.

Let's go.

Oh, man.

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And for Melissa Ford, round of applause, bro.

Patron Ease in the building.

Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Just go over the ish.

He's not about to fry you up, but you're right.

No, you don't.

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The main man with the master plan, he makes sure everything is above 20 grand, man.

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The doctor of Lovanomics.

The love anomics doctor, boy.

He do not play.

What's so far you can go?

He's not always there when you call, but he he is always there when you call and he's always on time my man

how you doing you good i'm good

thanks elmira's fine it's my man parks man ride on the floor for parks leave

we got pulling here we got coreing here he is it he ease in the back and his man um i forgot my man name Julian.

Oh, that's my man, too.

He's tall, too.

That's my man.

That's my man.

That's what did it for you?

I just gotta acknowledge it.

Yo, yo, that's what did it for you.

You like tall niggas?

You know, do you guys?

You said he did it for you.

You said that's my man.

He's tall, too.

You guys, you guys go real far when it comes to that.

No, that's that's not my God.

Man, welcome, man.

We're here.

I'm happy to see you guys, man.

What's up, man?

What's up?

I know we did the, you know, we talked about what we did this weekend, but I'm just happy to see you guys.

Same, same.

Yo, happy to see you.

Can we send a congratulations?

Shout out to my boy.

Shout out to our boy Ian.

Oh, we have to be happy to see you.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Congratulations to Ian and Jules.

Welcome to the club.

Love you guys.

Bundle of Joy is here.

Baby girl.

Baby girl.

Beautiful, man.

Another girl dad out there.

Salute.

It's over.

How do you think he feels right now?

Amazing.

Like he's on top of the world.

Amazing.

It's a different feeling.

And also that probably his wife is a warrior and a goddess.

I concur.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And in another month, he going to be tired as shit.

Fuck.

Another month.

Month.

I mean, when he gets into the real routine of it.

Another month.

I mean, he has to be there to help her, help her out.

When now, don't you talk about ain't no mom.

But you still kind of in the moment.

You still engulfed in the moment.

Sometimes you can't describe the feeling of how you kill.

It's just undescribable.

You know, when I told Ian, when I congratulated him, I was like, yo, the feeling that you're feeling right now, I can't describe, but just know that you are responsible for this human being coming into this world.

Try to be nice.

You know what I'm saying?

Shout out to Ian.

But threw a little pressure on it, too.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

You're responsible now for this individual and their well-being for the rest of their lives.

Is there a difference?

I don't know.

For me, there was.

No, there isn't.

There's not a difference when you have a boy and a girl.

I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know.

Meaning when they're born.

I wouldn't know.

It was for me.

I got girls.

My little baby boys, man.

As soon as they came out the womb,

you shook them up like you were doing.

When the princess came out, man, it was just, oh, my daughter.

You know what I mean?

You know, so,

yeah, man.

Shout out to Ian, man.

We love you.

And Jules, for sure.

Shout out to Jules.

We

what's popping y'all what's good what's good what's good you didn't tell what your week was like you know tax everybody else how was your my week was you went to the Adirondacks or something oh yeah you went to go get your to the to the army base and all that right I went to get my

so yesterday I went to West Point New York where I was born because you know you know Trump and these real IDs I have to get my birth certificate I lost it a long time ago so I went to the town to get it

and I don't know where the fuck I was at excuse me like my daughter had to roast me because it said bagel grandma and caps and pizza so I said oh look bagel grandma's pizza my daughter said daddy it's just called grandma's and they sell bagels and pizza I said no it's bagel grandma pizza because they had it on the left my daughter checked me

um it was it was it was

fried

I mean, I mean, it was unique, man, to go there to see the way I was born.

I drove by the hospital, but I was born.

I was born in an Army base.

Oh, so West Point flip.

Yeah, nah.

You know what I mean?

That's like the IBM.

You got a nice ringer.

That's what I told him.

West Point is the best.

West Point's other shit.

That's fine.

That's what my daughter was saying.

My daughter said, I learned about West Point in my textbook, and she started to talk about generals and stuff.

I tuned out.

I turned up Drake.

So, no, but it felt good to be there with your daughter and show her like this is where I was born and everything.

Other than that, everything else was well, man.

Everything else was well.

Just family time.

I don't believe that you were listening to Drake either.

I think you turned up Papa Roach and no uh nah i listen to queen a little sabrina carpenter or some shit yeah yeah nah i listen to drake but yeah it's it's just taking your children there man it's fine that's fine i feel lame though being born up there y'all why little town like that just a little cool off yeah i be talking bag shit like queen's flip up state too yeah but that's oh west point spottest yeah west point flip shout out to west point shout out to everybody up there high falls and stuff like that but yeah that's that's what that's what i did oh you met

you got your paper, right?

What paper?

For InvestFest.

You cleared up.

I seen your name on flyer.

So you cleared all that up, right?

Some things have been worked out.

Some things have been worked out.

Yeah, Corey made the call.

So you're officially

officially call.

You're officially going to be there.

Yeah, I'm going to be there.

I'm going to call it.

Let's go.

Yo, Corey made the call, bro.

Talking about it.

Yeah, he took care of you.

Corey did it.

Yo, yo, Zellum.

Yo, you need that.

The 20%, you going to 20% or nah.

You cancel him out.

Got him, no doubt.

There you go.

Got a cash line on the 20.

That didn't seem earnest.

Nah, nah, it's your stand-up dude, though.

He's going to send the 20.

That's crazy.

Where do you guys want to go?

Where are we going?

What's on the 2020?

What do you mean, where do you want to go?

Where the rest of America went for the last twice this week.

You didn't say it to Joe.

Check me.

Yeah.

I'm checking me.

You took a lunacy.

I like that.

Your ball's hanging.

Yeah, your nuts is dry.

I really don't.

Your nuts is dry.

I really don't.

Where do you want to go?

I stole his exact line, knowing that you'll say that.

When it comes to me, just check me out.

Yes, Father.

We only really have one place to go.

It's Chris Brown.

That's the only place to go.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

You disagree?

Who all went to the show?

I mean,

only one of us?

I wasn't missing it.

I ain't got damn.

I know.

Joe went, right?

But me, Joe.

You went.

He ain't here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm going to make this really easy.

I don't want to hear nobody's name with his anymore.

Like, I'm I'm done.

Nobody.

Nobody currently.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Stop.

Just leave it alone.

Leave it alone.

Only two mentioned it.

No.

He is clearly in a class by himself.

So where'd you go see him?

Where was he?

Metlife.

Metlife, okay.

With night two, MetLife.

It was storming, pouring.

Like, no, thunderstorm, pouring down, which worked in our favor.

Why?

Because dealing with women, you run late all the time.

Ah.

So we run in late.

And I'm telling her, I'm like, yo, it's lightning.

I know the rules at MetLife.

As long as it's lightning, they can't, they got to clear everybody out.

Any open stadiums, if it's lightning, they'll stop a football game.

They'll stop anything for lightning.

True.

We parked.

The second we parked, we got the Amber alert shit on the phone.

All MetLife guests said it's now safe to return to the venue.

Oh,

made it.

Miss Bryson, because there was a big mix up with security on the floor.

Like they closed the gates down.

People tried to rush the gates.

They had about 500 people standing online to get your floor wristbands.

Oh, shit.

But again, because the show was delayed, the second doors opened, they had him ready to go.

So we missed him.

She watched Summer.

I'm not really the biggest Summer fan.

So cool.

That wasn't for me.

But when he hit that stage, he went on stage at 9:30, roughly.

Okay.

It was after midnight when we walked out.

Oh, damn.

Dog.

He did about 50,

between 53 and 55 records.

Holy what?

And they said the first night it was more.

Damn.

He did about between 50, somewhere.

I saw the set list.

He added, he made some additions.

And he could have stepped, he could have kept going.

Oh, no.

So he do little outfit changes and shit, right?

And he has the DJ come out and perform.

The DJ goes, hey, I'm going to play the records that he's not going to do.

So we're going to turn up here.

And he went on a whole set of records that he could have performed.

Brought Tiger out.

Okay.

That's dope.

Very dope.

Very dope.

Very dope.

He hooked up the harness and shot up in the air like out of a cannon, it looked like.

Seeing that.

About 60, 70 feet in the air.

I saw that online, too.

Literally flew around the arena.

The nosebleeds.

He was in front of the people in the nosebleed singing to them.

Wow.

While flipping

on the harness.

Live mic.

Everybody going to get their money's worth.

Oh, no, everybody got their money's worth.

Everybody in there got, I don't care where you sat.

Like, we didn't sit down the entire show

and again it's after midnight and i'm like yo this i saw a tick tock going around where the girl left the uh

she left the spot early she was like yo i got kids this won't stop singing enough this girl was like yo dog dog what are we doing you killing me yeah i said it's too much like my girl was like okay i understand that now

easily performance wise one of the best shows i've ever been to in my life And you've been to a lot of shows?

I go to a lot of shows.

You go to a lot of shows.

Has this been one continuous tour?

Yes.

Yes, this is.

When did this start?

Because it feels like he's been on tour forever.

Started overseas.

It started overseas.

Okay.

Was that Breezy Baldo?

Because he had something before this.

No.

No, it's a 11 joint.

That was last year.

1911 was last year.

Wow.

I felt like that was no.

That's what I was asking.

Because that's why I said it seems like he's been on tour forever because it just seems like he one connected to the other.

Like he never stopped.

No, no, no.

He tours each album.

So last year was the 11-11 tour.

This one, being that this is 20 years of his career.

First album was 2005.

We're in 25.

So he's celebrating his entire career.

All of the videos they played literally walked you through the career.

He jumped around with songs, of course.

So, you know, he came out to run it and then did some current stuff and then back and forth.

But all the videos was just walking you through everything he's been through.

He had a whole set where all the lights looked like police lights and it was flashing.

And of course, he go through all of that.

The fall he going through.

It was just different, bro.

Bro, I I have not heard.

I didn't hear something mediocre yet.

Me either.

Everything I've heard is a 10 or better.

Every single person, man, woman, boy, or girl, niggas was in the show hitting my phone like, yo, you bullshit.

Why you not here?

I'm surprised you didn't go.

I ain't with the New Jersey shit.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to go.

I wanted to go to London.

I wanted to go to overseas, but I'm going to go to somewhere like Phoenix.

I'm going to go somewhere.

Phoenix.

I've never, I was supposed to go to the show.

I mean, Denver.

I mean, I was supposed to go to day two, and it's the first time I was like regretted not going to a show.

Any other time I missed a show?

I'm like, all right, whatever.

I'm seeing the videos come across, the pictures.

It looked like you needed to be there.

Hey, let me tell you, if I wasn't going to be out in the country,

I would go next week to Connecticut again.

I'm going to try to go now.

What do you think this tells the world now, though?

Again, like, you know, because now we know that whatever

hidden thing is was whatever hidden halo was over Chris Brown when it came to whatever he went through You know whatever that was preventing him from going to the next level.

What does this say to them?

What's the next level?

I don't, yeah, about to say

winning the awards, going to the wars, or performing.

He knows the Michael Jackson tribute.

If you notice, he's always posting on his stories.

I don't give a fuck about that no more.

He keeps reminding people: hey, and it was one of the videos he was playing.

It was like, yo, everybody stopped answering my phone calls.

Like,

I couldn't even get niggas on the phone, let alone to try to work with folks.

The only way I made it through was my fans.

Was the fans.

So everything he's saying is, I only do this for the fans.

I understand.

I don't care about the rest of it.

That's why he was mad at the awards.

Yo, stop even calling me.

Y'all call me.

Y'all get my fans hyped up.

Y'all get all everybody hyped up.

And I'll pull the rug at the end and say, yo, never mind.

Don't call my phone.

I'm not doing this for y'all no more.

I've accepted what it is.

Like everybody say, oh, he was supposed to be the next Michael.

Hey, he'll never get there.

We already got that.

But as his fans, he's giving giving us something that nobody else is gonna see

and that's still an argument

but you said you you said something ill on the side though you said when you oh my bad you you you said on the side we need to stop having a conversation about someone being better than the person before them yes it's literally just a torch evolution past evolution at this point james to michael to usher now to chris like my scariest thought is who is he passing that torch to now when it comes to this level of creativity and art might not be born yet i mean or they might be 12 years old you know what i'm saying like they might be out here because 13 14 years old dog he is you know how jay-z be like yo only two people resting in heaven could be mentioned in the same you can only mention people that are dead with this kid not kid with this man like he's different bro three hours four hours of just non-stop bangers don't sit down dance the whole entire time he's not holding

tightropes in the no squeeze is crazy to me yo fam you're not sitting on a stool.

You're not sitting on a stool singing.

Right.

Yeah.

Fam, he's,

yo, he's flipping, jumping.

When we went to 11-11, I was impressed.

From what I've seen online, this shit makes 11-11 like this makes every other tour.

I haven't missed a Chris Brown tour since 2018.

You know what you just said?

He's celebrating 20 years and don't seem like he's slowing.

Like, he seemed like he's slow.

No, he's ramping up.

He's rebbing up.

Like, that is scary, yo.

Bro, really scary.

You know, his iTunes is loaded with a 7,000 market because he ain't even released yet.

Chris is different, man.

I don't got no more argument about who to take.

I just don't like, like, after what I've seen, and like I said, 20 years non-stop, I don't want to hear nobody.

Nobody.

I just don't want to hear me, bro.

I'm not having a conversation no more.

I'm not even.

That's what you think?

Cool, that's peace.

Don't talk to me no more.

I'm not even.

To me, it ain't even close.

He might not have the

one album that

somebody has, is like the confessions or the, you know, whatever, the Donnell Jones joint, whatever the case may be.

But even to what we was talking about off Mike Ice was like, yo, that just goes to the evolution of music.

I mean, the evolution of just streaming and all that other shit.

You putting out a ton of songs so that you can get your bread back, whatever the case may be.

If he had an album with a concise 12 songs,

first off, if he put an album out of 12 songs, his fans are going to write.

I'm going to be the first one.

You better know.

Hold on, listen.

We was mad when he first said 11-11 was going to be 11 songs.

He did.

Everybody, yo, yo, my nigga, I hear all that.

I see what you're trying to do, but leave that for them.

We don't want that.

He's one of the only, maybe the only artist, and this has been ever since Heartbreak on the Full Moon that can give you 30, 40 records and still shoot 85%.

So imagine if he took the 30 to a hot 14.

Right.

No.

I'm just saying, no, he could give you potential confessions.

And confessions is a hard plat.

I mean, that it's not just an easy feat.

I'm just saying, if somebody out here could do it, he could do it.

Well, shout out, shout out to Breezy.

Shout out to Chris Brown.

Must see show.

Yeah.

If you haven't, pull it up.

If you haven't, go see the show.

Please go and shout out to Breezy.

Yeah, shout out to Breezy.

That sounded like a great show.

Let's keep it in music, man.

Cardi B.

She dropped.

Yeah.

It's the motherfucking bricks.

That's your.

She kept it okay.

I was doing in like 2016

Like

you bitches don't even know the difference between vintage and our card like

Yeah, look now I spit that other shit Pretty motherfucker shit Cardi's B every stone platinum I'm not the other bitch Whatever you was gonna pay her you gotta double it Glory hole Bitches don't know who they fucking with

Yo, I'm not mad at this, yo.

She came out.

I'm not mad.

She came out.

I didn't, we talked about it before.

We didn't know what she was going to sample.

Mm-hmm.

You know, it was going to be the beat flow.

When I first heard the snippet, I wasn't really, I'm like,

I didn't like the snippet.

Hearing the song in totality, how does this translate to the audience,

audience, or to the new audience?

Right?

To the people that's buying records.

Ain't nobody buying records.

Well, I'm not buying.

You know what I'm talking about?

Just streaming or listening,

how does this translate?

Is this a great, is this a good second single?

I don't think, no, I don't think so.

I think, well,

it's an interesting choice for a second single.

I don't think it'll be a hit.

So

if that was the goal of the second single, then no.

But I think it's a good record, which I think she kind of needed.

I think she wanted a record out to get her shit off on.

I don't need a hit.

I don't need a hit.

I don't need something for the clubs right now.

I need to, I got some shit to talk.

The last, however, many singles from Cardi have been club records or attempts at club records.

I like the change of pace here.

Yeah, too.

Okay, so why she didn't go, I would expect as a second single for her to go like pop or, you know, big, right?

With a pop feature or something.

Because it ain't connecting.

Say it again.

It's not connecting.

Yeah, I think that's what she's been trying to do.

When she popped, Bodak was street.

It was, you go back to where you initially popped because you tried all that other stuff before and it wasn't connecting.

So, hold up.

I disagree.

That nigga looked like my twin.

Wait, that nigga look like my twin.

Wait, hold on.

What's happening up for Mark?

I ain't gonna talk to Mark.

People don't know you got a little slight, you know what I mean?

Why did you got everything?

Why did you?

I don't know what we're talking about.

Oh, but why you just, why you limped on camera?

Was I limping?

Yeah, yeah.

I gotta do it.

What's up?

I'm in a little bit of pain.

We cathed it too?

No.

Y'all, Toysies?

You okay?

I'm great.

I'm great.

Just overtraining.

That's all.

I'm fine.

Oh, God.

Some exercise stuff.

That's all.

I need to worry about.

Box?

She's getting her shit off, yo.

That's shit.

Yo, can we just be honest, man?

What?

Here comes me.

Okay, let's go.

It's not hate.

I don't like how she sounds like she's reading off of something in the record.

I'm not convinced by the flow.

Like when we talked about Foxy and the people before, rappers, people who can go ahead, even if you didn't write it, make you believe that they wrote it and got the shit.

It don't give me that feel for this.

The bars are fire.

You think that's more accent, though?

I don't want to say it's with accent because she was able to do that with accent on other records.

And she's not.

Not in the pocket either.

It felt like she was catching.

When I heard it, I was like, I love these lyrics.

I love the track.

But I literally said to myself, it almost feels like she read.

It's It's not like she just learned it last week and went in and recorded it.

That's what I get from it.

It's a good, good record.

The visual is even more fire when you attach it with the record.

But I don't not convince by it.

And at this point, it just feels like they're just reaching for anything to upstart

something for her before the album came out.

And I'm just like, I don't think nothing's going to.

She's saying some shit.

I love shit.

She's saying some fire shit.

For the most part,

you know, it's such better on these figures than it did in my house.

That's hard, nigga.

That is tough, y'all.

Y'all,

the first verse is fire.

And I'm a huge Cardi fan.

I just...

I love y'all.

So it's the delivery.

What is it for y'all?

It's the delivery.

And listen, I'm nitpicking.

I'm nitpicking just my ear to nitpick for stuff like that.

So maybe this is just...

The personal thing?

The truth is, you're going to nitpick if you can if it's come from what Jay did and what she's doing.

I'm not comparing it to Jay.

Yeah, you know, I'm never, it's not about comparing to Jay, but she has the same cadence and the same flow.

Right.

She emulated it.

I think subconsciously, you're going to think you.

But subconsciously, you're going to compare it.

You know what I mean?

To me, I think the accent is a little, you know what I'm saying?

Like her.

You know, you have to walk with her.

The way she enunciates, you know what I mean?

But she's saying some shit.

I like it.

You're used to those accents, huh?

$40 Hills.

What do you think Shorty sounds like?

How do you think her accents sound, huh?

With the $40 hills.

Cardi don't got no $40.

I'm not saying shit.

Not at all.

$4,000.

No, I said Shorty with a $40.

Anyway, I don't want to be too critical, but like Mark said, I just, I'm not convinced by the delivery of it.

But is it a bad record?

No, it's not a bad record.

I think it's fire.

The bars are fire.

You glory whole bitch.

I don't know who you fucking with.

That's all.

Come on, bro.

Come on.

I love the whole song.

I love all the lyrics.

And like I said, I'm going to listen to it in the card.

And I listened to it first thing this morning when I woke up and I was like, oh, I like this track, but it just doesn't.

It almost sounded like I wish she had just laid the vocals down one more time.

You got to get an accord instead of the Civic.

I didn't even say it sounds better.

You know what I mean?

I'm going to give it another try.

I'm going to give it another try before I.

But, or first sis, listen.

I'm going to support her regardless.

I like this shit.

Me too.

I like that shit.

I like it.

From the first time I heard it.

I was like, huh?

Yeah, no, she was talking to me.

She says some shit.

Stripe like Tom Brown.

These bitches should calm down.

Quicker they lift up, the quicker they fall down.

Call stink, Twitter must be gassing them heavy.

Making them jump in the rim with the brim before they ready.

I seen whole fan pages, make avatar changes.

All that old love go to new fan base.

Now you're 15 up.

You're already out of time.

I'm a legend.

They gon' hit my heels from the power lines.

That's tough.

I can hear the punches.

Yeah, you can hear the punches for sure.

Maybe that's it.

And that's that's

yeah.

You can't hear the punches.

But for the but for the regular fan, don't give a fuck about that.

So for them, it's like whatever, firebars, and they love it.

Yeah, I'm just glad to make it song.

Some of the pronunciation is a little

bit, though.

I know.

But when it's faster, you won't hear it as much.

Fair.

You know what I mean?

Like when it went in the bop and the bop and the bop, like you don't hear it as much.

She's talking slower now, so you hear it.

Yeah.

How do you feel about this MPZ?

One to ten?

Six?

I think that it's really just a cadence thing.

I don't think that we're used to hearing her cadence like this slow.

It almost sounds like it's like below like, you know, the 1.0, like the speed.

It sounds like it's like below that.

Negative.

A little bit.

Yeah, it sounds like it's a negative.

So that's, I don't know.

She's speaking.

She's she's spitting.

You know what's so crazy?

When you spoke just now, right?

I was, I'm maturing in real time.

I was going to be funny and say you chose a side because offset was up here.

I was going to do that whole little thing.

But because you said, eh, you were defending her last time, but I like that.

But I want to respect you.

I listen, it's not always just a gender thing.

It's sometimes it's just the side that I think I'm choosing is the right side.

Yes, you are.

And it's not gender-specific.

Got it.

But,

you know, like, I always got got Cardi's back, but

it didn't exactly, like, move me.

There's nothing to theorize behind

Ho clearing a sample for?

Or

should we

brush past that and just leave it be?

Yes, please.

I think those who try to make something out of it,

I think that's a reach.

Got it.

I think it's an interesting story.

I'm going to say if he was one that wasn't really clearing samples like that, then yeah.

And he does.

But he clears it.

He's been clearing it.

But because he's been clearing samples.

That's all.

He's clear whacker shit than this.

Yeah, for sure.

And I'm not calling this whack, to be clear.

I think this is dope.

I'm just saying, no, I really like this song, and I really like.

I'm a huge Cardi fan.

Like I said, I just wish they had laid the vocals down one more time.

You put the ER on it, though.

What?

Whacker, whacker.

That's my West Coast.

Real quick, is there anything else in music?

Park.

There's a bunch of.

Y'all kidding me?

Wait, we just act like Chance didn't come out today.

Yo, Chance shit is.

It's amazing.

Chance is coming back.

This This is the best comeback album I've heard in a long time.

I'm not being funny.

This shit is fire.

I listen to it all more.

It was with Chance and Denzel.

That's a radio.

That's my laugh.

Come on, y'all.

We pushed you to beat Denzel.

Come on, yo.

We get it, yo.

We like Chance, too, though.

We got you, bro.

We got it.

Listen,

if I met Denzel too, nigga, I'll be the shoe.

I'm with you.

Hey, I'll fellow yo.

You went crazy.

Yeah, it's about.

What's the ball?

Tell us about it.

First of all, I mean,

I've listened to it a few times today.

It's actually why I haven't listened to the Cardi album more.

This shit right here.

Oh.

This is Back to the Go with Vic Benzer.

And I know Vic about to go new.

You went crazy.

I stopped laughing.

Damn,

I'm just listening to the music.

I'll be scratching it back.

In the kitchen, flipping a scribbl like a spatula ad.

Was packing my bags.

Once I unpack, I'm back in my bag.

Square one, ground zero.

The homeless hometown hero.

I was transient, transient, only in a family tense.

And in the past tense, maybe I was absent.

I stopped doing asset, but I've been keeping taps since the London hoes with assets.

No, I'm not the man.

Listen, man, I know you made a really bad album about loving his wife.

I understand that.

People would not know what to do.

But at one point,

what?

And what he made a really bad album about loving his wife.

It was really bad.

It was like his debut album, like official album.

But he had a run of classic mixtapes that took mixtape to a level that we haven't seen as far as winning a Grammy and fucking being Billboard Place and all this shit.

He was at one point going to be the next guy in a lot of people's eyes.

And he disappeared and fell off to face to the earth.

But this album is really fucking good.

It's really, it's one of my favorite.

It's definitely my favorite album to show.

I'm not saying it's the best for y'all who jump on me.

But it's absolutely my favorite.

I need to listen to it more.

But

there's a few things I love about it.

First of all,

there's some chance is a reader and he's thoughtful.

And so the song titles are like really interesting and complex.

It's called Starline, which is after the black starline, Marcus Garvey.

He got songs called The Negro Problem, Draping to Mania, which was something used against slaves back in the day as a psychological condition.

But it's not a nerdy album.

I mean, songs like Dunning Your Perseifier,

Layne is on here, Young Thug is on here.

The features are great.

The music, if you like the chance that you liked when you listening to like Chance.

chat rap and coloring book

color there's color and book moments on here especially in the second half of the album like he's writing a letter to the church that is just crazy it's called the letter it's it's amazing

there's some regular like just club shit on there and then there's some like conscious shit on there it's like a good mix of stuff the features of great jay like chronic is back on there who else is on there um little wayne is on there yeah it's it's it's a great album it's it's one of the albums i've been most excited about and i wasn't to be honest i wasn't sure how i was gonna feel about it because of the last album same which which i didn't hate the way everybody else did but i didn't think it was good

I didn't think it was good.

But some people were like angry about it.

I was one of those.

Okay, fair.

You said you think this is one of the best albums of this year.

Oh, it's definitely one of the best albums.

It is his favorite album.

It's my favorite for sure.

But

I need to hear it for a while.

I don't like to jump to, you know what I mean?

Like, I heard...

Prisoner of the moment type stuff.

Yeah, but I had heard gifts for a while when I said, like, it's up there for the time.

Whereas this, I'm just hearing today, so I don't want to say that.

But

I don't see how somebody wouldn't like this album.

If you like Chance, you'll love this album.

Well, that song right there will make me definitely.

Yeah, I'm going to check it out from off of that song.

Off of that one song.

I had no intention

to play on this album.

And you ain't even let Vic rock.

He wear crazy.

I know.

He's one of my favorite Vic versus.

I know.

He's going to go nuts.

No, I fuck with him.

I know he's going to nuts.

Did y'all see Chance stance on his relationship with Kanye?

No.

What did he say?

Pretty much he hasn't spoken to him in a while, but, you know,

they've separated.

He's busy.

I'm busy.

But at some point, you know, maybe there's a world where they connect or something.

That sounds like a whole lot of nothing.

Absolutely.

Correct.

I don't want to be messed up.

I don't want to be messy, and I don't want no clips.

That's my way of

staying out of it.

Did he get asked a direct question?

So, what's up with you and Kanye?

Oh, you know, we're.

Look, he's busy.

I'm busy.

Everybody's busy.

Yeah, exactly.

Get that nigga there.

I wish he had his glasses got on some bullshit.

I wish him well.

All the politically correct sentences.

That's funny.

Any more music?

Juicy J dropped a jazz album that was.

I only listened to a couple records off it.

It's a jazz, instrumental jazz album.

Her name is Andea Owens.

Did he rap on it?

There's some records with him rapping on it.

But what's the rest of it?

Jazz music.

Jazz.

Instrumental on.

Finally, I've been sitting there saying, when is Juicy J going to drop a jazz album?

And I want to see how receptive people are to this because they gave Andre 3000 fucking sh- Well, the difference is actually really fucking good.

It's good.

Musically.

three songs, the flute album.

No, the flute album was cool.

I like the flute album.

But this is actually like, these are, I don't know, who the piano players are.

These are musicians that know how to play their instrument.

Oh, God.

It's a little different.

Sounds good.

The wildest jab is off.

Like, this is good music.

It is.

This is just the intro.

Like,

more petablues.

Shout out to Juicy J.

I haven't listened to the whole thing, so I don't have an in-depth review, but from the four or five songs I did hear on it, it's dope.

He's got a record with Black Thought that's super dope.

Please stop the violence and hip-hop.

From what I heard, it's very good.

And I can't believe you put out another album.

He had an album like two weeks ago.

I was like, Didn't he just drop an album two weeks ago?

But that's a rapping album.

There's not much rapping on it from what I have heard.

And by the way, I actually listened to the Tyler EP.

It's good.

I told.

The four songs y'all rapped.

Yeah.

It's good.

You did say that.

I hadn't heard it yet.

And people, because you hear 4,000 sales, and then people...

So why?

No, they weren't saying there was bad music.

They were just saying that people are just off her because of, you know, the comments.

I'm not convinced of that either.

I'm not convinced of that.

I think they did a shitty job of marketing.

I think that they thought the success of the water was going to carry them.

And so they ain't necessarily put as much.

Behind it because nobody knew.

I didn't see anything coming out.

I didn't see no interviews.

Nothing.

No single, no video, no, nothing went viral.

But I don't think it's necessarily...

It might be partially a result of her attitudes and the shit that she said.

Or they're trying to protect her from it happening again.

It could be that.

I don't want you to sit with no interviews because they're probably going to try to trip you up.

They're going to probably keep trying to address this.

We want to get this behind us.

Let's just put this shit out and let's try to stir the conversation over here.

Even though we forgive, black people ain't going to forget.

Meaning like it's best to address it.

I feel like it should be addressed properly.

But she addressed it wrong the first time.

She should have got it properly correctly.

I don't believe that either.

I don't believe that either.

Because

when Doja Cat did that bullshit and everybody was calling her out for the bullshit, she just came with more hits and everyone fucking forgot.

Kanye told niggas slavery was a choice.

I just think at the end of the day, Kanye also had a lot of people.

If you put out slaps, I think you're going to be able to do that.

Kanye also had about 15 years of equity with his fans to be able to say some bullshit.

That's what I'm saying.

And they'll turn the other way.

Dollars are a new act.

Okay, so what's Doja?

I think you can get past saying some bullshit if they fuck with you.

And Kanye's from America and said that you know what I'm saying he was born here Kanye's mother and father are who they are historically

he has more context than this girl is from another country did I miss something what did she say that had everybody's panties in a bunch I think she says I know that she's she made a reference to black people she referred to them as colored yeah but she's also South African where that's like I understand

I get the loss in translation and you know maybe people thinking that it was a misstep or you know a faux pas of hers to say it, but it's just like if that's well, she didn't say she.

I want to make sure I say right, I think it was her not using the word, it was about how she self-identified.

Okay, it wasn't just that she used the word color, it was like, How do you call yourself?

And if I remember correctly, she wasn't identifying as black per se.

And people thought that that was her saying, I don't fuck with blackness or black people, as opposed to her saying there are different racial categories.

I want to pull it up so but in South America, South Africa, I mean, in part South Africa, there were distinctions between and colored was one of the identifiers in South Africa.

So if that's how she grew up and that's saying, yo, I identify as colored because for the last 20 years or 19 years, that's how I've been described.

I don't think there's nothing wrong with that.

It's like when Mel talks about Canada and how people identify in Canada, they don't necessarily say I'm black or I'm white.

They'll say, yo, I'm Norwegian or I'm Jamaican.

They use that.

Or I'm Trinidadian.

You go into where your country, family, origins from, and that's how you identify.

It makes it.

She called herself a colored South African.

It's not that she doesn't say black, but the identity she was using at the time was colored South African, and then it sparked a controversy.

And in South Africa, they don't refer to people as black.

If I'm not mistaken, they don't use, that's not the terminology.

I think so.

Man, the problem is she ain't got no slaps, man.

That's all it is.

Niggas will forget all that bullshit.

Like I said, when Doja said all her stupid shit,

she came out with slaps.

I think after that.

Everybody shortly forgot about it.

I think after that, people just didn't fuck with her.

Like it was when it came to

her being on stage.

There was like an award, something or another.

She was, oh, hold this while I talk kind of thing.

People were like, oh, you're making so-and-so hold your fucking award.

Who do you think think you are?

And I was just like, okay, so she's at the point in which she can't win for losing.

Like, everything is going to be, everything she does is going to be dissected, and people are going to highlight the negativity and see it through that.

Fine negativity, even if it's not negative, They'll make it negative.

When they hate you, you can do no right.

She was on that hated side for a minute.

I agree.

And like Imani said, slaps.

We've seen it with everybody.

Slaps fix all of it.

Slaps, slaps.

They do.

They fix most things.

A lot of shit.

I was on vacation, so I don't know the answer to this.

Did y'all talk about MGK's album last week?

Who?

Machine Gun Kelly?

Yeah.

After the intro on today's pod, I guess we could.

But I haven't listened to it.

So

if you have a deep analysis, but

I have a shallow analysis.

I wanted to know if y'all.

He He switched up, right?

He switched up and went

Rev Pop, right?

A little bit more, but I mean, it's still rapping on this.

You know what I mean?

The album's called Lost Americana.

It's worth listening to.

You know what I mean?

It's more alternative than it is, like, hip-hop.

Y'all find out, Jewels have a lot of fun.

You got some plump, you got some, you got the MGK, you got some scratch?

Well, no, I just knew we were going to be talking about music today, and I like to prepare for it.

Ayo, dog.

Around

convertions listening to MGK.

What?

I'm just naming the albums that came out this week that we might have had a dialogue on.

That's all.

I know some nice ones that was up there that weekend.

I don't know.

I didn't see anybody but my wife.

I know.

Yo, Tony Bennett's greatest hits.

Tony Bennett's greatest hits just dropped.

We good.

Y'all salute to MGK.

It might be good.

I don't know.

I will listen to it.

Yeah, it's worth listening to.

That's all I'm going to say.

Interesting.

No, I ain't getting no payola.

I'm happy to.

I'm not fucking.

If anybody has any payola, please text me.

Email me.

DMC or something.

Oh, man.

William.

So that's that's it.

That's in the music.

Yeah, I mean, as far as like major releases,

as far as major releases, I would say so, yeah.

I mean, in music, I don't know if you guys want to tackle some of this Drake

lawsuit.

It's

some nasty paragraphs in there.

There really is.

Nasty.

There really is.

I don't know how to defend this anymore.

I'm not going to hold you.

Like, I was with the people that was just like, well, they called him that word, and he's going scorched earth.

Do we have the actual.

well?

Yeah, there's there's a piece here that I'm reading.

Um, certain requests within the suit

that Drake is asking for from January 1, 2014 to the present, all documents and communications relating to allegations of domestic violence, violence against women, and/or forms of violence committed by Kendrick Lamar Duckworth.

That's document request number 50.

Document request number 51 is from January 2019 to the present.

All documents and communications relating to David Isaac Freeley, aka Dave Free and his relationship with Kendrick Lamar Duckworth and Kendrick Lamar Duckworth's children.

And then document request number 52 is all documents and communications relating to the rap feud from August 1st, 2023 to the present.

These are all requests that are being made.

I don't understand.

That seems nasty and I don't understand what that has to do with whether UMG

was boosting

not like us.

I think it's twofold.

One, he's trying to prove

that y'all boosted lies.

Right.

Okay.

So now I'm going to prove what I said was the truth.

Okay.

So I'm looking for, I'm looking, because again, part of what he's also trying to do, and I think this is like the second level of his beef, is I still want to expose dude as

because remember, Joe read a message before where he was like, I'm going to show you he's not who y'all think he is.

Okay, so I think that's still part of it.

Yeah, I think he's having two fights.

Yeah, I think he's fighting Kendrick still, and I think he's fighting UMG.

And I think they two separate fights, they just intertwine.

It sounds like he's trying to legally

expose genius.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, yo,

I'm gonna expose you for whatever that I heard was true.

Now I'm going to make y'all prove it's true.

Hip-hop is built off lies, too, man.

Yeah.

Like, come on.

It's too much.

I don't even think that they're going to even submit that information to him.

You start playing with somebody's family and their kids and all that, but

well,

Lucian Grange

has some shit to say.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he has some thoughts.

He put in a declaration.

No.

Fuck out of here.

Fuck out of here.

Yeah.

It's not lengthy, but I mean, we can get to it.

Can you see?

Zoom in, Mel.

Mel where your readers are at.

Zoom in, Mel.

Give him your up.

Here we go.

I'm the chairman and CEO of Universal Music Group, which is indirect parent corporation of defendant UMG Recordings, Inc.

Plaintiff R.B.

Drake Graham claims that I was behind a scheme to devalue his brand through the release and promotion of the Kendrick Lamar recording, Not Like Us.

an allegation that makes no sense due to the fact that the company I run, Universal Music Group, has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Drake, including long-standing and critical financial support for his recording career, the purchase and ownership of the bulk of his recording catalog, and the purchase of his music.

publishing rights.

It also makes no sense whatsoever as I run a publicly traded, multi-billion dollar, multi-national corporation

whose operations in over 60 countries, covering nearly 200 markets, immediately report up to me.

That's in short, and pretty much he's saying

no.

Yeah, no.

He said he's dumb.

Yeah, it makes no fucking financial or sense, period.

You're reaching.

Yeah.

Yo, I don't like the way you read, yo.

Get your glasses, bro.

I don't like the way you read.

Read the last line.

Don't read.

Don't read like that that again.

And let me see if we can do better.

Don't read like that again.

What's the last line?

Is this an eye test or a reading test?

What's your reading?

It's a reading at this point.

Which one?

Which last line?

Reading.

The recorded catalog and the purchase of his music publishing rights?

Read the whole shit.

Tell that nigga you big foot from Westmore.

Yeah.

Because you can't see it.

Very tight.

Yeah, so get your glasses, boy.

Look about at your whole life.

We're putting a Chloe's.

What you want to do?

And you sat there right there.

You sat right there and let my man do that.

I didn't think you was doing it.

I think you was talking about it.

You the pros that you gonna let it happen.

I didn't think it was gonna let it happen.

Oh, wait, that sounds crazy?

No, you sound fine.

That's not crazy at all.

You did just what I expected.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

Yo, yo.

Yo.

Stop playing, yo.

I told y'all.

You can't do that.

You stop playing, yo.

That's a charge.

Yo, dude, I sue it.

That nigga, yo.

You just watching Good Devil or something?

Yo.

Yo,

you just had to get up with your first day jeans on.

She got to have some look.

She wanted to get it.

And welcome back.

Yo, don't set your fucking

lunch.

I didn't mean to do that.

She was never going to sit you for you, nigga.

Oh.

She didn't even call you about to cap it up.

I was just about to go to Mark for his opinion on this whole thing, but my bad.

Yo, yo,

right now.

No, you good?

Mark Green.

You open too.

you're gonna be a little bit of a broken.

You should

see, stop throwing.

You gotta get aggressive.

You're so angry.

Yeah, you gotta go to the class.

Oh,

next time you read, you got like air.

All right, okay.

I appreciate that.

Okay,

yo, wait, hold on.

First of all, okay.

Do we need to have an intervention?

You can't see.

He's lashing out.

You came on the Maypaw.

You sir, you okay?

Throwing shit and breaking shit.

You alright?

This shit hurt.

And he's sitting up high now.

My bad.

Grab back.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Come on.

Let's hold it in.

Come on.

Let's grow up, man.

Holy shit.

Mark, you're all right, Mark.

Yeah, the chair's fucked up, though.

Oh, yeah.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

Oh, it's sustained.

Yeah, that's it.

It's going to be all right.

Oh, shit.

These couches need like a good once-over, anyways.

I mean, you had your navy blues on.

Yeah, yeah.

You had navy blue bleach.

You had the

four-de-roll jeans on there.

But listen.

No, but

back to the subject of hand, I think that that I think he's just fighting two fights.

I think one, you embarrassed me nationally, internationally, so now I'm going to get you back, right?

So I'm going to spend any expense I can to personally get you back.

And then I think he's fighting a totally separate fight with UMG, and I think they just intersect.

And I think his goal with Universal is to get my masters.

I'm going to sue you to the point where our settlement is going to be my shit.

And I was looking at, that might be the start of the beef because I was wondering how,

because his masters were with Young Money right and Wayne sold young money

Sold all of their masters to Universal for 100 million Gotcha.

So now it's like oh wait a minute you sold my shit to them like I might have tried to buy my shit.

I could have bought my shit myself.

I could have bought my shit.

I'll give you a boy.

I'd have gave you 150 for my shit.

Let me ask you a question about Drake because I'm trying to get into the psychology of Drake.

You said there's two fights.

This is my opinion.

Yeah,

I agree with your assessment.

The second fight I get, the first fight against Kendrick, do you think he's consciously doing that?

Do you think he thinks?

Do you think he's sitting in this house like, I'm going to get him back?

Yes, nigga.

Yeah.

1,000%.

My nigga, you broke my spirit.

You broke my ego.

You broke my public image that I had in a worldwide sense.

Well,

why we act like he also doesn't have the fan base to support that type of thinking?

Like, it's not like the whole world is saying you bugging out.

A lot of people think that he's still in the right and should be shit like that.

That is true.

So even while you have the other people saying shit, you can block that out by your fans standing by you and say, nah, fuck that.

You were right.

Keep killing.

Keep killing.

It's just so not hip-hop.

Again, it's not hip-hop at all, man.

I have no doubt.

I think he cares about that.

This is past hip-hop.

Yeah, it's hard for me to believe because Drake loves hip-hop.

I think Drake cares so much about legacy and image.

You think he care more about hip-hop?

Stay right there.

Stay where you are.

You're fucking with my legacy.

You can't get a campaign.

You fucking with my legacy by calling that pedophile to the entire planet Earth.

And it's almost the song is so big that

niggas kind of accepted it.

The narrative.

Why did I just make another song?

Because when I tried to wrap it out, niggas stopped the beef, said, no, you lost.

That's true.

You lost, nigga.

Do people

A-minor?

Like, yo, fam, to a nigga with an ego, that shit is something.

Do people remember that even in, like, if you take the Jay and Nas beef, right?

And after Nas dropped ether, it was kind of solidified.

You lost.

Jay still dropped some fire bars after that, and it was just no one cared.

Nobody's heard.

Like, at this point,

The narrative is already formed.

That's true.

Drake, uh, uh, Jay-Z dropped his most fire bars on Blueprint 2.

Correct.

But you know the difference?

No one cares.

You know the difference.

What?

We're talking Jay and Nas,

New York.

I mean, granted, the rest of the country heard.

Pre-internet.

Right.

True.

This was performed at the Grammys, won all the awards and the Super Bowl.

And my whole argument is y'all artificially inflated that record to even get to that level.

But here's my problem with it.

I think that Drake is single-handedly trying to change the outlook of hip-hop.

I mean, there's certain principles that, you know, is conducted in hip-hop.

Meaning that when there's a battle in disc records, you say, you know, Biggie said what he said.

You know, you let it lie where it lies.

No one.

And

I have to look at how you were raised in order to even understand what's being done.

Meaning, like...

People from the hood or from the struggle, not saying Drake wasn't from that, but you grew up different.

So you understand and you value things a little bit different.

And you, and principles of morals, even though it's changing now, some people still value that.

So if you diss me, I diss you, nigga, I go my way, I see you, we're gonna hop you and flip you.

We go our way, we try to figure it out.

Drake is taking this to court and making it seem like, which is, I guess he has enough audience to do it, making it seem like it's cool to do so.

It makes it seem like if I say something to you, you say something back to me.

And even if the inflation is going to happen.

Nigga,

you're going to try any tactic to get your record out there.

You're going to try any tactic to be the winner.

That's what it is.

Hold on, hold on.

What does winners look like?

Two things with that.

One, we keep saying hip-hop, hip-hop, this is much bigger than hip-hop hip.

This is power struggle, yeah.

This is not, Drake is much bigger than hip-hop.

So we compare.

But just give me a second.

We're comparing Drake.

to other beefs, to artists that's never gotten to this level.

We've never seen an artist reach a corner of his level.

Reach where Drake is at.

So I don't even like trying to box this as a hip-hop thing.

My business, my brand is bigger than this at this point.

You are not affecting my hip-hop side.

You are affecting my brand.

You are affecting

everything.

So yeah, I got to defend this.

I just bring this up.

Yo, fuck music.

This ain't got nothing to do with music.

Like, dog, Nike is

pausing on my releases right after this shit.

Like, certain shit like that, that we, again, this nigga is an international star.

You talking about big.

Big wasn't never an international star.

Like, fifth was big.

Fifth suede people, right?

But he's not suing people over hip-hop this record.

My problem with this is the point.

That's the point.

You started taking it to a messy place and the mess backfired on you absolutely horrible.

Yeah, I know yo, yo, we make the joke all the time, but yeah, we know.

Yeah, like fifth suit people, only fifth suit people.

We talk about fifth suit people.

Fifth will take you to court, but he's not suing over.

Jairu didn't sue 50 over and 50, whatever 50 did at the time to Ja Ru put Ja Ru on a pause, a permanent pause at one point.

There's nothing that Ja Ru could do.

Kelly, he could have got whoever he want, but Jairu didn't go take 50 to court.

But Flip, let me ask you.

With everything that Drake potentially gets to gain in this type of a win, none of the other people ever had that type of leverage.

I understand what you're saying.

So do you prioritize hip-hop in that mode or you do like at the same time?

No,

you do prioritize his business, but where it stems from, it becomes tricky to me.

Like if they had,

like, if they made AI stuff or stuff where

to

sort of add to them calling him a PDF, then I say, no, you need to get sued for that.

That's what he's saying.

That's what he's saying.

But that's the thing.

He's saying they had A.I.

I use the word AI.

Meaning videos or trying to do something funny to show.

And if it was spread all over the world and if it affected his business, business, I understand that.

We're just talking about a rap limit.

About is AI.

No,

I'm talking about the business.

You understand what I'm saying, right?

You're talking about specifically.

There's a difference between just a rap bar

that loosely alluded really to your crew being weirdos and you amongst that.

And a difference between making some fabricated videos or documents or something like that.

That's what I'm saying.

Yes, thank you.

You know what?

I feel like Drake's thing is this is the fight that he's had before this whole Kendrick thing even started, where he wanted to be in a position of ownership

the the michael level of i own my public i own my masters and this is a roadblock to get to that point so i have to deal with it in this manner like there's no other way to get to that point and i think that me personally i think that at some point he thought i'm larger than life

and my ego is the size of the aquarium and then you come back in there and they like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

chill fam you an artist nigga you you still an artist we're gonna give you 400 million you thinking on your re-up you might get a billion you might get whatever you still an artist and i think at some point in time and joe alluded to this one time like

you sitting on the other side of the table

and after a while you still feel like realize you sitting on the other side of that table you want to be on this side now what is it going to take for me to get on this side and they never gonna let you get on that side you still work for me you are artist what's interesting to me in this i don't know if anybody you probably didn't but uh uh watched the kelsey's and taylor swift podcast no i heard it was amazing it was really good i heard it was good i mean it was funny it's there were some moments where i was like if we tried to talk about baking bread and liking otter pictures on instagram joe would absolutely rip our fucking faces off and they could do that which is funny different uh different cultures i guess anyway the way that she handled getting her masters back versus what he's doing to get his masters back to me is very interesting she talked about um

essentially kind of winning with kindness.

Like, she just had her mom and her people go talk to the people that owned her shit.

I mean, it's you haven't seen it.

So, I mean,

the approach is versus going scorched earth, I'm suing everybody.

She just put her head down and worked and came up with creative ways.

I don't know, he didn't do that.

He didn't go re-record a bunch of his albums and go platinum with them again.

And he didn't do none of the shit that she's been doing for the past 10 years in order to get her shit out of her.

Did the previous label try to do anything that she felt was trying to stifle her?

Yes.

I'm sure.

Because that's Drake's thing.

Like y'all are basically lowering my value by pumping these narratives.

And now, especially if we're in re if we're in negotiations, oh dog, now we talk about Shannon Sharp, the hundred million dollars.

Then XYZ happens.

Let's say that conversation was to continue with ESPN.

We all said it.

You ain't looking at the 100 no more.

Right.

You see it in in sports.

It's something like that.

Yeah, sports.

You see it in sports.

Coming.

Coming up right now.

Golden State didn't want to re-up him, allegedly.

They tried to sit him.

You know what I'm saying?

Then somebody got hurt in the playoffs.

They ain't have no choice but to play him.

He kicked ass in the playoffs and they still not trying to really,

you know what I'm saying?

So they'll sit you to diminish your value so that you can't go nowhere else and get mad bread.

You got to stay here.

Yo, if he was, if he, I don't know.

If he was just, if he was just suing UMG

for something else

and like it was the artist against the machine, and he's big enough to represent all the artists that was taken advantage of by the machine, then I was just...

That's how it was sold.

That's how it was sold.

Then be like, yeah, Drake, yeah, Drake.

The fact that it's on the back of Kendrick and a disc record, that's where it becomes a little tricky for me.

Yeah, I stood by him when it was like, yo, he's suing Universal.

He's not necessarily suing Kendrick.

So that was one thing.

I think that if you are demanding that they bring somebody's fucking DNA record.

That's nasty.

I think that's where that's I think it's a little stretch, but

again, if I'm trying to prove everything I said,

yeah, I didn't personally go through it.

I got to do that.

But even in proving everything is the truth, what is it?

What's the angle?

That's not going to get you your masters back.

Yeah, it's not going to get you your masters back.

But it's not going to get you all winning the battle.

Y'all cheating.

Y'all cheating.

How?

Because one of the things that everybody stood on the pusher shit was some of that shit that Pusher was saying about him personally.

And y'all was like, look at this piece of shit, nigga.

Pusher exposed him.

So if you got your ass whipped like that before you think that the way i could get my lick back is to do what pusher did to me to kendrick i think this nigga has been embarrassed on a worldwide level my nigga like i don't know what that feels like because i've never been like him yeah but it's pat we i think that the embarrassment is over it's over to us

it's over to us nigga we didn't feel what he feel i think that nigga feels like a fucking dodo outside

all right so so again i'm not i wouldn't do that i think it's corny to bring somebody's children into any of that shit i think that's whack I'm saying, for his perspective, he might be like, I think he's just trying to prove it.

I think, in closing for me, I think he's just trying to prove motive.

Yo,

everything this nigga said was a lie.

Y'all pumped it.

I said, we're on the same label.

Everything I said is the truth, and I'm trying to prove that it was the truth, and y'all stepped on it.

Yeah, I think it's a legal strategy.

That's what I think he's doing.

I agree with you.

That's what I was saying from the beginning, but I think it looks nasty.

And it makes the

ass whooping look even more bibbically smaller.

We'll never see an ass whooping like this.

It's been a great talk.

Yeah.

Yeah, we got it.

Yo, my.

I tried.

I see.

I love these guys.

Hey, yo, Flip.

Yes, sir.

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You know what time it is.

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Thanks, fam.

family salute

man yo how the erickson just leave yo today's a weird little day yo yeah it is i'm tight who's dude they want

julian hey julian

y'all don't just be hating on my man he is here at like groundhog's day

no i'm hating on

i'm hating

he walked out

yo he chucked the deuce i was like oh you want to get your food or something no backpack i backpack well but he's here a lot so you know i mean

all the time.

Thanks stopping here a lot, and he's here on time.

He's very punctual, so he deserves a vacation.

Oh, so I'm out then

you second.

Yeah, you second.

So I'm second.

I would be first.

No, in terms of...

What day off I ever had?

No, you don't have days off.

He makes me off.

As far as early, that's the first time.

Oh, Ice is here the earliest.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

But you've never had a day off, right?

No.

He also doesn't live in Jersey, so I mean, you've had days off, kind of.

There was one, actually.

There was one at the Prem Studio.

Yeah.

A couple.

I think it was just one.

No.

I think it was a man.

That's something after your wedding.

Yeah.

What's my man name?

I did one.

What's dude named Charles?

No, Casey.

Oh, Casey.

Gotcha.

Casey.

Shout out to Casey.

Shout out to Parks.

Word.

Well, thank you.

Shout out to the game.

Hey, yo, don't hate.

Shout out to E.

I'm hating.

Yeah.

I'm still gonna hate.

Fuck that.

So, what do y'all want to talk about?

Can't be serious.

I don't.

We already got people hacking crazy when it gets a little serious look you don't want to stop hitting glasses down

i don't care i don't like none of that i want to address something because the internet's been mad this week oh god wow wow about what now about

i think they're mad at joe not me um about about um the collective reaction i think they're mostly mad at joe but maybe the collective reaction to uh to me mentioning uh al jazeera and gaza last week and

your colleague yeah and they were saying you people don't take anything serious kind of making it about

And I think it's a little unfair.

And I want to say that.

I think it's a little unfair.

I think part of it is context, you know, because people are like, we don't talk about this stuff.

I don't come here to talk about global politics.

That's not what I came here for.

That's not what I took the job for.

I think my presence here is helpful.

You don't want to share that money?

Night school.

Night school.

Every night.

But that's what I feel like.

People be back like, Gin, go watch my show.

I do it every night.

And Al Jazeera season starts in two weeks, so you can watch me on Fridays.

But I don't.

It's.

Did you just pop?

Yeah, get

shameless

but the point is like I don't want people to think that I'm being silenced up here like I be trying to bring stuff up and y'all be like don't say that I've never been edited I've never been silenced now they're gonna say that y'all made me say that too they're gonna be like you know blink once right but like no I can talk about this stuff it's to me this isn't the space to talk about it because we these things deserve

in-depth analysis.

They deserve 20 minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes.

And we can't do that up here.

That's not what the job is.

If I work for ESPN, they wouldn't expect me to do it because that's not the job.

Similarly, if I'm here, that's not the job.

Did people personally hit you up?

Yeah, some people.

Some people, it's just like when I first came here, like, why would you go there?

It's the same kind of thought process.

It's like same as the woman.

Oh, the lawyers are back on the menu.

Basically,

still waiting for you to respond as to why the fuck you're here.

Right.

And it's like, I'm up here to be part of a great conversation, which we are every week.

So I don't want people to feel like I feel a way about that conversation.

Would I have preferred if y'all had said, like,

sorry to hear that?

Rest in peace.

Move on, maybe play some, some, some gap dance.

Yeah, yes.

I'm not gonna, but that's a blip.

But the actual decision to not talk about it in depth or to not have a reaction in terms of analysis, I'm cool with that because it's a complicated topic.

And if people don't have an analysis of it, I don't want to, I don't want to.

And that's the truth.

I think the truth is why we don't talk about it.

A lot of us have, well, I have a skew.

What's the word?

Skew?

Is that the right word?

I have an ignorance, an ignorant view of things.

I don't want to misspeak, right?

I don't want to say anything that may become insensitive.

And a lot of times that happens.

So, and we're not really familiar with the topics and stuff like that, or what's going on.

Now, maybe we should,

or me, let me speak for myself, should read more and understand what's going on.

We all should.

It's not just you.

We all should.

Our eyes and stuff like that.

The topics become, because we see what happens a lot when you touch on these topics.

And if you take a stance, we see what happens.

We see the outcome.

And I just don't want to misspeak.

misspeak I don't me I can speak for myself I don't want to say nothing I don't want to just

I keep myself informed by not enough to talk about it like I'm I'm cool because if you don't know what you're talking about or you do like and this is last thing I'll say on this Madonna did this earlier this week where she made an Instagram post where she was kind of like I don't want to take sides on this but kind of like thoughts and prayers and you know love to the babies and she got blasted for that and I was one of people that blasted

what did she what she was talking about guys you know just okay yeah but my point is that sometimes if you don't know anything you just say I'm here basically like I'm rooting for everybody that can be bad yes it can you know what I mean so like if you don't know enough to have an opinion on it we don't have to talk about it but people may be mad at you because they may feel that Mark you no they're not mad at him wait oh

listen you've been I'm gonna get you in a little bit about about you and this Mark shit because you checked on him about his back and then check on my man listen um

the people may say well Mark why don't you teach them because I do every night on night school

YouTube yeah 10 p.m.

You get too much money over there.

I don't like it.

As opposed to here, this money coming out the fucking faucets here.

What are you talking about?

You get a lot of money.

Yo, I'll be, I watch night school.

I appreciate it.

You get a lot of money over there.

I appreciate it.

That's all I'm watching, though.

I'm not watching.

You don't watch Kevin Hart?

No, I'm watching his dick.

I'm only watching.

Look how quiet I look.

Look, look how quiet I white collar park is.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, he didn't say I was white collar park.

But this guy has.

It's wild if nobody looked at Parks when you said that.

Oh, hello, wait a minute.

It's no, but look,

why is itch quiet?

Why doesn't itch, and itch is well versed in these things.

It's not my platform.

Got it.

And again, that's not what we do here.

And it's okay.

Like, I think the worst platforms are platforms that try to do everything.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's not the job.

No.

You get tired of that, right?

Just everywhere you go, you feel like you have to be the spokesperson for

it.

Yeah, and it becomes, what I mean, I'll just hear people like, why don't you drop up black shit more?

Because I'm in Qatar.

You know, like, what the fuck?

Like, watch me on Jumpout and Podcast.

Watch me on nights.

And it's the same thing for all of us up here.

You know, I think we all have things that we might.

Are you going?

Are you going?

Are you going to Gaza?

Nah, I fucking help it.

I can't right now.

I don't want to right now.

It's not safe.

And while I respect people who are going and doing that work,

like I said, every one of my colleagues has been killed.

Yes.

And he has, you know, young children and he has families.

That's not a choice I can make right now.

Right.

It's not.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mel.

Yo, let me ask you a question.

First of all, thoughts of prayers.

You can't just agree.

Wait, hold on, wait, wait.

Rest in peace.

No, just like you can't agree with me.

Otherwise, you're a simp and you're pandering.

Right.

Oh, whoa.

Rest in peace to your fallen colleagues and stuff like that.

Rest in peace.

Seriously.

All your side.

We didn't do that last time.

Rest in peace.

Thoughts of prayers.

And salute to them family.

I'm going to kill y'all on Patreon now.

Now go ahead.

Melissa Ford.

You think you still go on Patreon?

See, after this coffee, you think I'm going to let you on Patreon?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, C-O-H-A-H-O-N-S.

CO-O.

Stop.

I told you, flappy shit.

You get that flappy shit, okay?

I got these.

For yo, yo.

I heard after I said it.

That sounds crazy.

Withdraw,

broadcast.

What'd you say, Flip?

You said something?

So

here's my issue with you today.

I don't really ever.

I'm glad you said today.

I'm not going to hype my focus on you.

Okay.

I just noticed that you were concerned about one friend and not the other.

Like, I hurt my leg the other day.

I fell in the hallway.

You walked past me.

He

sat down.

You didn't ask me anything, but you asked Mark about his back.

You're such a liar.

Come on, man.

I did not know you fell in the hallway.

That's number one.

You made it sound like I just stepped over you.

You did.

That's how I heard it happen.

I did.

I heard he was laid across the hallway.

And you walked right over him.

Excuse me, Daisy.

Daisy did a little.

That's what I fell in the leg.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what I heard.

No, no.

No, it's been an ongoing thing with him.

His back has been hurting him for like a really long time, and he refuses to do anything about it.

I have tried to push him, you know, in the right direction.

I'm like, go see my physical therapist.

Yo, how far away?

What's this?

There's another.

Still too early.

There's another double M.

There's another M that's around.

I should be pushing him to fix his back.

Everybody up here.

There's another M that'll stop that.

Everybody.

Double M, double M?

Everybody up here has expressed concern about everybody else's well-being.

It's not that big a deal.

I agree with her.

Hold on, real quick, ish.

I agree with her.

We worried about you.

I'm good.

No, no.

I got a punch.

I got to go chiropractic.

You got to stop doing that because you act like you're the superhero of the world.

But who's going to save Superman?

Every time outside on the balcony, I pull you to the side.

Yo, you all right.

Yo, what's good?

Are you okay?

No, all you're the side.

No.

Look, look at the hater.

Look, the hater.

Who's going to save Superman?

Who is this going to save?

Just talk.

Don't pay your mind.

Why are you laughing?

Go ahead, nigga.

Jealous.

I'll never say who's going to save Superman.

Who is?

What the fuck is you talking about?

Just go.

I like this, man.

Hey, yo, listen, Robin.

Nothing serious.

Hey, y'all, leap and Lenny Popper.

Green Arrow.

Chill the fuck out.

Stop.

You can call nigga Robin.

I don't care.

You can't throw shit at me.

I can stand up.

I can stand up, nigga.

I don't like what you did.

All right, Bob.

I take that.

I take that.

I take that.

But what I'm saying, don't laugh at that.

Super man.

No, I'm laughing at all his stupid shit that y'all.

He said what he said.

Let's move on.

Let's move on, please.

Yes.

Can we talk about the Minnesota Vikings making some history here?

What fucking history?

What history?

What is it?

They're having cheerleaders.

Male cheerleaders.

Oh, it's a dwerkers.

Oh, shit.

Didn't see that.

That's your calling, yo.

You would have been genuine.

In the purple and mouth.

I'm a cowboy for real.

All right.

See,

you would have had a little Viking suit?

Oh, Bullshit.

Why are you picturing me in a Viking suit?

Yo, nigga,

he is walking around documenting shit too.

He's like doing like a documentary.

So I don't watch it.

He got what you're doing.

He niggas.

Yeah,

folding jeans.

Yeah, yeah.

You got tying his shoes.

But he bought it in.

I took a page.

I took a page.

I took a page.

You got some nigga in the car with you.

You standing by the boys' car in Harlem.

I'm like, what the fuck?

Going through his life.

My first shit was him having the cameraman with the cameraman follow the cameraman.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

How about it?

Nah, I'm not going to lie.

I'm glad to be where I'm at in life.

Sure.

Let me just say that.

I'm glad you ain't on that escalator walking up there with the 17 cameraman.

Nah, listen.

You need the cameraman to follow the cameraman for the best.

I went back to my old hood where I lived.

They went back to my old hood.

And

he was good.

Let me just say, it was sad, yo.

It was sad to see some of these buildings from 1983 still looking and smelling the same.

Like,

just nasty.

Just documenting your life and your travels.

I've lived in 27 different places in my whole life.

So, what are you working on?

And it's kind of scary.

I'm like, yo,

listen, I checked my text message.

I went to the thread with him.

I said, what is this nigga doing?

Like,

why are you taking us through your life?

Like, what are you preparing us for, nigga?

Stop doing that, bro.

That's why I I called you like four times the other day.

You ain't picked up like shit.

I'm not sure what I'm doing.

Yeah.

Why are you doing that?

Why are you walking us through your life, bro?

Nigga, you young.

What we do.

Yo, you saying, you ain't going nowhere.

You ever still look like B Street?

Nah, what are you trying to do?

I know.

At least tell us what you're doing.

At least tell us what you trying to do.

Alright, so, so, so, Ford Apache.

You said you're taking a page out of somebody's book.

Because you do nice document.

of like certain areas.

So I was like, you know what, I want to also tie into my life.

But, you know, no joke, but when you deal with a certain thing, you deal with seeing your friends pass, you deal with your own level of coming to your own mortality, you kind of like not saying prep for some of the work, but you want to go ahead and kind of dissect how far along you come.

You don't know how much time you do have around.

Yeah, so for me, that was

an insha.

Yo, I'm gonna fuck you.

I'm asking.

Nah, you know what's crazy?

I went back there and

they closed down my first Catholic.

It's a crazy guy.

Crazy Lord.

Clap it up, man.

They can't really.

I mean, he might be on the list.

We don't know.

Whoa, shit.

We don't know.

She all don't know.

That's funny.

I'm literally shouting a nigga twice today.

Wow.

That's crazy.

You shot at him twice.

That's funny.

Do you feel safe right now that it's closed?

Is it like a mental head?

Like, do you feel like...

Closure.

Yeah, closure.

That's the word I was looking for.

Thank you, Bill.

So you prepared.

You feel me?

You're just walking around doing a documentary with two cameramen.

I'm looking at this shit like...

And I zoomed in, too.

I see what type of camera he's using.

Like, he really doing some documentary shit.

You're going to tell that story.

That's a story to tell.

Yeah.

No,

there's no story to tell with that.

I got the high notes.

You my.

When they get you going, it is all right.

I can't do nothing.

So the Minnesota Vikings.

Yes.

All right, I got it.

I got it.

The Minnesota Vikings had a lot of people.

Shut the fuck up, niggas.

Talk about something I'm interested in.

The Minnesota Vikings.

You interested in Mel's twerking?

Wait, what?

Yo, Joe is going to kill you, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm talking to y'all.

Don't worry about me.

Okay.

The Minnesota Vikings have introduced Blaze Chic and Louis Kahn as male cheerleaders for the 2025-26 NFL season.

Sparking a polarizing reaction amongst fans and commentators.

Blaze.

I can be.

Oh, the names?

They do sound like male strippers.

They do a little bit.

Blaze?

Chic.

She's like a Married American Gladiator.

What the fuck is that?

Yo, Louis Khan.

I think it's interesting.

Mel, let me ask you, as a heterosexual woman,

does the idea of male cheerleaders appeal at all to you?

No, not really.

And I feel like,

can't we just have, can we not have anything?

Like, just, can we not have like our own spaces where men don't have to be a business?

You don't have no strength from this.

You don't want no cheerleaders?

Okay, listen.

If they're going to, because they're talking a lot about, you know,

inclusion and whatnot in this, I'm just like, okay, so when does that mean that women are going to be quarterbacks?

Male.

Niggas with

male.

The sack record is broken that first game.

Or even or even why they're considered

considered for the coaching staff.

That's pretty interesting.

That's fair.

So I'm just, we want to talk about

it as it relates to men occupying the spaces that that women have primarily occupied, but I'm glad I'd like to see that include.

Well, they're working there.

They got

women referees,

which for the, I want to say the last two, three seasons.

Announcers.

Announcers.

Okay.

I noticed that in the New Madden.

One of the main announcers is a woman.

Really?

Wait, that is Blaze?

Let me see.

Let me see.

Come on.

It's a scene.

Why did you search Blaze?

They're algorithms.

Show us.

Yo, they said, you saw real estate, too?

They show us.

Can you show us?

We see?

We're live.

Blaze chic.

This is funny, my nigga.

I'm not going to hold you.

That's funny.

This is...

Yo, he's going to be.

Can we get the cameras?

Male you good.

That's Blaze.

Mal, you good.

Just to the audience who can't see this, what's happening?

Eric saying, go put that on.

Or describe Blaze Sheikh.

Blaze chic.

Oh, is it a femme?

Is it a femme?

Like a femme?

It appears so.

Okay, got you.

From what I just saw.

Okay, I got you.

You know, I don't want to speak ahead of turn.

Yo, leave the cheerleaders alone.

Leave it for the ladies, man.

Why, though?

Why, though?

Why not?

Because this is equal opportunities, equal rights.

Yo, no, but listen.

They do be having male cheerleaders.

Cheerleaders did.

In high school and stuff.

In high school and college.

Yeah, like they were the ones who were like, hold on.

They lift.

Yeah, but come on, man.

They're almost like gymnasts almost.

What if one of the male cheerleaders don't want to lift?

them?

They want to don't.

Did you just say Dons?

Dons.

Not support.

I think that's fine.

Look,

let me say this.

Personally, I don't think we need any cheerleaders in football.

I just don't.

I don't think they add that much to the game.

Basketball is a little different.

There are sports where baseball we don't have cheerleaders.

I'm just saying, I don't necessarily think we need cheerleaders in the NFL games.

That's just my thought.

We need the Cowboys cheerleaders.

Just like the Dolphins was, too.

And that's what they said about the Lakers.

I mean, there are certain teams that are known for that because of the cities they come from.

But in general, I don't think we need them.

But if you're going to have them, this is my preference, but if you're going to have them, having men and women do it, I think is just,

I think it's fine.

I think this is a solution in search of a problem.

I think 99% of the time, no dude is going out for the

Green Bay Packer cheerleader team anyway, and it's not going to be an issue.

Packer, all right.

Yo,

that was an alley U.

know I think that it should be equal opportunity like everything else that people fight for the rights for it ain't just there the rockets got men there yeah and I think that's fine the rockets I think that's right

the rocks

yo I don't think nothing wrong with that I just I just think sometimes when we talk about opposite sides of the same coin they don't play out the same in the same way that some of y'all go to strip clubs all the time right

and there's still need inclusion there right i don't not not at your club but i'm saying like i don't think think male strippers do the same thing for women that women strippers do for men.

They don't.

Yeah, a lot of the women I know hate male strippers.

That's what I'm saying.

You're wrong.

No, they don't.

They be, you are wrong.

Blowing them off.

Break it down for me.

Tell me how I'm wrong.

And I'm blowing them off at the party, bro.

And I was dancing at the party, right?

And our hood back in the day.

That shit was, what was that?

The shit right down, Sprinkle Out.

Cayenne.

Wait, how you doing?

What the lines are getting in?

I don't know.

I know.

Is it cold in there?

I don't know what he's talking about.

Y'all dog niggas about

y'all wish.

I wish my brother Joe was here, who is not

a phobia.

No, dog, them niggas make hell of bread.

They make hell of

hella money.

Now, coming to the stage.

They call it.

How much you hit on a good swan?

I never, I never, yo, stop.

Women don't look at strip clubs the same way.

They just

say women don't go to the strip club club.

Okay,

let's use Joe as an example.

How often does Joe go to the strip club?

Let's just say on average, Joe's two times a week.

Joe's different.

No, Jermaine Priest sat up there and literally talked about stripper culture and how frequent and how common it is for men to go to strip clubs to watch women strip.

Women do not think like that.

Today may be not like that.

It's a Vegas event, or it's a bachelorette party, or it's

some other occasion.

But trust me, we don't fucking want to go see fucking niggas working with a fucking Twitter.

What y'all saying fucking, you know,

song.

Y'all invite them to the bachelorette party and get real frisky with them.

I didn't say that.

Not only that, I didn't say that women don't want to do that.

Yes, that's the point, though.

Like, we just don't choose that.

They put the foreign objects in there.

Like, they get crazy at bachelorette party.

Male, you know what I'm talking about, male.

I know.

Not you doing it, but you know what I'm talking about.

I can't really say, I can't really imagine.

Like, what's the last bachelorette party I was at?

The last one you was at and the stripper came through.

Y'all was going crazy.

No, a stripper didn't come through.

Okay.

You might be.

Ain't that the shit we want to do?

I think men and women salary naming.

That's what I'm saying.

I would say so.

I'm just saying, like, back in the day in our hood, like, that shit was popular.

Today, the women are going to see the women's.

Women like women.

That's interesting.

Yeah, women like women today.

I'm talking about the world.

Much more.

I don't want no male strippers today.

Yeah, yeah, I do know that there's male strip clubs that don't stay empty.

So obviously there's

people.

Obviously, there's women

that go.

I've got a lot of dudes, too.

I mean, the strip clubs that that I know of usually are gay strip clubs.

Those are the ones that are packed, and they're packed with men.

You know, but the reality of the situation is that it's just.

I was saying male strippers tend to be very fluid, and so a lot of interesting things happen.

Interesting, huh?

Yeah.

It's what I, yeah.

It interests you.

The topic does.

That's why your night streamers disson

coming to the stage.

Miss.

People can slow down.

Oh, shit.

You know, I like your dancing.

Nigga, live to the stage, boy.

Oh, shit.

Am I?

Have you ever danced?

Have you ever done that?

Yeah, up here.

No, no, I mean like in a club.

Yeah, Mars 2112 when they was open.

Yeah.

I've never danced for money.

No.

I've never danced for money.

I'll throw something else at you.

I was like, straight answer.

Why?

You think you'd be good at it?

Oh, shit.

It seemed like it could have been on his resume.

Have you danced for a woman before?

Because he's an entertainer.

Now, it's not a disc because he's an entertainer.

No, have you danced your clothes slowly and danced for a woman?

I've done that before.

He's.

Hey, yo, son.

So anxious.

What song was playing?

Shout out to him.

Pony.

That's female script card song, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, and man.

Yo, man.

Yo, y'all disgusting.

That nigga lip was.

Yo,

Father Jackson was happy as hell.

Man,

I said I'm sorry.

That is funny, yo.

No more Father Jackson.

That's hilarious.

All right.

Y'all want to get into this top podcast or listen?

Yeah.

Let's give a round of applause.

Salutes to Joe, man.

Number four.

No, I'm not saluting Joe.

I'm saluting us.

We are the podcast, too.

Fucking name, but yeah.

So what?

So what?

That's a thousand.

We all won this motherfucker, too.

That's a win for everybody.

I didn't say that shit when they left me off the motherfucking New York Times.

We did.

We was in the New York Times, so yeah.

We were cool with the article.

That shit was great.

I'm not a guy.

Your mother survives.

Take your ass in the post.

National Inquirer.

Shoe fly.

Yo, that's hilarious.

Yo, Jack.

Oh, man.

Yo, we did defend you, but you wasn't on the...

No, it's cool.

It's cool.

But it's cool.

Hollywood Reporter.

Hollywood Put the Reporters.

What is the most

influential?

Most powerful

players in podcasts?

Different word.

Okay.

Well, it's whether they're behind the mic or behind the scenes, these trailblazers are steering the maturing medium through an increasingly crowded landscape and critical transitions to video and AI.

You need to be on Moana Part 4.

Moana.

Moana.

I'm going for it.

I believe you.

Okay, so number one is Smartlist.

It's got Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, and Sean Hayes.

They started that during the pandemic and ended up with a $100 million deal at SiriusXM.

Damn.

Yeah.

I like all of them, though.

Yeah, they terrible.

I listen to it.

It's cool.

The next one is The Daily, and it's the New York Times flagship podcast.

Newsie pod.

Yeah.

And then the next one is Stuff You Should Know.

It's been around for 17 years.

I listened this one a little bit.

They just, they were the senior editors at howstuffworks.com.

So it's all the shit that you didn't know you wanted to do.

And then at number motherfucking four is the Joe Button podcast.

Clap it up again.

Fuck that.

It's not the podcast.

You know what I mean?

It ain't the podcast.

It's the podcast.

I mean, it does say the Joe Button podcast.

Oh, look at that hand.

Look at that hand.

It does say the podcast.

Don't say talent, nigga.

Don't say Justin Bateman by himself.

No.

What does it say?

Okay, so it says, a decade after Joe Budden launched his namesake podcast, it remains the most influential in all of hip-hop.

The rapper turned the

recently recently revealed that his podcast network is expected to generate more than $20 million in 2025 between subscriptions and ads, making him one of the most successful podcasters in the industry.

When he was asked the biggest challenge facing podcasting now, he said it's us versus algorithms.

Fair.

Yeah.

That is true.

That's Indy, yo.

Shout out to Joe.

Indy, that's Indy.

Huh?

Say it again.

Got to say that.

It's Indy.

There ain't nobody coming.

Salute.

Salute.

Damn.

They read the Times article, too.

Yeah.

The Patreon leak changed everything.

It really did.

I was just talking to my man about that shit the other day.

Nothing was the same.

Talking about just bumping into people and seeing tweets and shit.

Like, oh, they read the article.

Yeah, man.

They read the article.

That shit changed people's tones like overnight, boy.

Right.

Joe Rogan is number 17 on this list.

That surprises me.

So I don't know.

I'm trying to figure out if this is like in some kind of like, if it is actually in an order, because it's not saying like one, two, three.

It's just listing.

But like if it was, he's number 17.

Wow.

He's like under Call Me Daddy.

He's under Mel Robbins.

He's under Michelle Obama's new podcast.

I mean, in fairness, I haven't seen a whole ton of viral moments from his show in the way that we used to.

So I mean, that's true.

That's true.

There may be some analytics to back up.

But have we seen viral moments from the other ones as well?

Like that?

Michelle Obama's, yes.

I mean, hers, but I mean, as far as Chase and Bateman jail on on industrial,

so I don't even think that that makes sense.

Well, they're not video.

As far as I know, they're not video.

They're audio only.

Oh,

yeah.

Listen,

off the audio?

Off the audio.

That shit is nuts.

Congratulations.

Shout out to everybody.

Congratulations.

Shout out to Joe.

Shout out to us.

Shout out to Luke, man.

We did it.

We did it.

Yeah.

We did it.

All right, something we didn't cover in music was Lil Yachty's got some new music out right now that's

getting people a little

riled up.

A little riled up.

I guess I'll play.

I don't really want to, but fuck it.

Bank for it.

Okay, I heard enough.

That's enough.

Even before I got to that bar, it was horrible.

I don't know what the opposite of a gunshot or air horn is, but I would have hit that.

Fart.

A fart.

Fucking fart.

A loud fucking fart.

Yeah.

That's horrible.

Yeah.

Gotta read the room.

You gotta read the country.

Fuck the room.

You gotta read.

You know what I'm saying?

I think it's a little

politically incorrect and a little bit distasteful.

It's more than a little distasteful putting my knee in her neck.

What the fuck are we doing?

What are we talking about here?

Am I missing something?

I did see a nigga do some wild shit in one of them videos.

Yeah, I know.

I don't know if.

Wait, you did it.

You're primarily.

You put your knee in the neck?

Sounds like

I hear you.

Your frustration about putting your knee on her neck.

I think much of America, all of the above.

Like the whole thing is offensive, but I'm like,

could we just address the fact that this is like a really horrible thing to say?

Yeah, I guess.

That's what it is.

It's disgusting.

It's terrible.

It's disgusting.

It's terrible.

Yeah.

It's horrible.

It's terrible.

And then to use George Floyd as a reference, like, who the fuck raised this kid?

That's why.

Like, I sound like an old lady right now.

I know I didn't.

No, I feel like an old head now.

I have a controversial thought.

There's something I said the other day that stuck with me again that I want to pick up on.

First, George Floyd,

using him in that sentence to me is

so representative of where we are as a culture.

And that's what's frustrating me.

When I was younger, it bothered me, but now as an old person, it makes me sad.

It's like

we marched, we bled, we cried, we struggled because a police officer killed George Floyd and because black men and women are getting killed around this country.

And to mock it to me is,

as it said, distasteful.

I think it reminds me of when Lil Wayne had the lyric about Emmett Till.

I was going to bring that up.

And even in that, not to cut you off.

No, please.

The backlash wasn't immediate.

Right.

It was years later.

Right.

Like, that was karate chop remix.

And that record line, all that shit rang off.

Right.

It wasn't, the times are different now.

So,

yeah, now you say something like that.

Because that's the first thing I heard when I heard this.

I'm like, oh, he's doing the same shit.

We still did.

Yeah.

You can't do do that.

Different day and time.

Yeah, different day and time.

Read the room.

Read the room, but I also.

Have some common sense.

That's the part

of some decency.

That's the point for me.

It's like, I want us to be at a place as a culture, as a community, as a people, where we don't want to do shit like that.

I agree.

You get what I'm saying?

Like, that's all I'm saying.

Like, I get Read the Room is a different time, but also, it's all true.

But, like, also, like...

I don't want to raise a child.

I don't want to our community raise children that mock our fallen ancestors, that mock our elders, that mock people who died for us or who got killed

whose lives are like a ransom for our struggle.

Like for me, that's fucked up.

And that's the part that really makes me sad.

And what I was saying, earlier, you mentioned, I don't know, it was Tuesday, you said something about C.

DeLore's Tucker.

And when I look back, I remember in the 90s and even in the early aughts, we used to talk about C.

Delores Tucker and Deion Ward, like they were hating on hip-hop.

In a bad way, right?

They were fucking right.

They were 100% right.

They were.

Yes and no.

Yes and no.

Yes and no.

Because again,

there is a part of that First Amendment freedom of expression part that is what hip-hop is coming out of.

I don't think that that was what their point was.

Can y'all inform me what was said?

Back in the day, C.

Dolores Tucker, she was, was she in Congress?

No, she was, what was her official title?

I thought she was.

She was something but Congress.

She used to

they were they were like doing um congressional hearings and shit to try and get some of the misogyny and some of the vulgarity out of hip-hop back in the day.

Okay.

Activist and former secretary of the Commonwealth for Pennsylvania.

Okay.

Got you.

So, so

all of the rappers and all of them used to be kind of dissing them.

Like Pac was dissing them.

Other rappers used to diss them.

I understand now from a parental standpoint that some of these things are horrible.

Some of these things should not be said.

But from an artistic standpoint, and if that's how we speak in our day-to-day life, and music supposedly mirrors

our day-to-day life and our day-to-day struggle, that's how people speak outside.

When I come up to you, you're like, what up, my nigga?

You don't say, yo, don't, don't call me the N-word because it's not politically correct.

That's not.

You get what I'm saying?

So some of those things are just reflective.

We don't do that in movies.

We don't tell the movie people, yo, don't do these things and don't say these things because, and again, visual art is more powerful than audio.

No, that's, I don't, I do not agree with that at all.

I think that this, I think that the spoken word when you don't have a visual and you have to use your imagination can be more powerful than the visual because you can just like just have like you know glazed eyeballs and that's where your imagination takes you.

But somebody else putting it on the screen is where they're like Holb said.

Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me all day.

What's the milk?

I said like Hole said and I always say Hole bar for everything.

Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me.

That Scarface interview, by the way, was absolutely fire.

I don't know if y'all watched that.

Yeah, I think clip fire.

Give an example of that.

I was going to give the example of, like, you know, if I say, who's the voice of God, I feel like the whole room will know who I'm talking about.

Morgan Freeman.

Right, exactly.

Everybody knows that.

Like, when you, I feel like.

I just think that when you get into people's heads through your voice and they start to do narration using your voice, I think that that is like an incredible place of power.

Great point.

But that came from Morgan Freeman.

That came from a movie.

That came from a movie.

Okay, so just using him as an example, but I Googled,

when I googled C.

Dolores Tucker, this post came up on Instagram.

It says, C.

Dolores Tucker told us in the 90s that we would be exactly where we are today.

Rap music has done a number on the black community, just like she said it would.

I can only imagine how much more real progress the black community would have made had we listened to her and how much safer and healthy our communities would be.

Goes on to say, you know, she made a quote, you can't listen to all that language and filth without it affecting you.

So about crack, like what the fuck?

Who wrote beat when that happens?

Apparently, that's not.

Here's

where I would have a departure from her.

First, a couple things, right?

One, there's the First Amendment question.

Yeah, people should have a right to say what they want.

This is, for me, this is an illegal question.

People should have a right.

As I said, I want people to want different choices.

I don't want to restrict people's choices.

I just want people to want different choices.

Shouldn't want to say it.

You shouldn't want to say that.

I remember when Deion Warwick spent some time with Suge and Snoop.

And it was Adre and Snoop.

I believe it was Suge and Snoop, but it was definitely Snoop was there.

And she was like, call me a bitch now.

And they wouldn't do it.

They wouldn't do it.

Snoop was like, That's the most gangster.

She was the biggest gangster in the room that day.

Because there's a way that when you're on the record, you can say certain things that you might not say in your personal interactions, right?

Because we've been raised with respect and respect to elders.

But Deion's still got to hear them songs, and those nuances and distinctions are made on the record.

So for me, it's about wanting different things.

But then the other piece of this is

we do have to make a distinction between sort of the structural shit that happens to us.

People aren't selling drugs because they heard a rapper sell drugs.

Exactly.

People are jobless.

People have had markets closed on them.

I mean, old school schools don't open.

I mean, there's a million things.

If I'm making a list of reasons why people sell drugs,

rap wouldn't make the top 20.

We make the top 20.

Exactly.

So we're not going to blame rappers

for the conditions.

But at the same time, I think

the mirror excuse for me always lets us off the hook a little bit for our behavior because when you mirrors do reflect reality, but when I look in a mirror most days and I see the fucked up shit, I try to fix it.

I see my hair is out of of place, I brush it.

I see some cold in my eye, I wipe it out, except that one time, right?

There's a way that, like, the mirror is supposed to be a corrective, but a lot of times when we

look at hip-hop or listen to hip-hop, it doesn't necessarily the music isn't inspiring us to not call women the B-word.

It's not inspiring us to not shoot each other.

And when I'm walking around Philly or New York or New Jersey or whatever, and I'm here watching just take drill rap, for example, that we're killing each other, and the music isn't inspiring us to stop killing each other.

Whereas a mirror inspires us to look better and act better.

This music's not inspiring that.

And that's the thing.

Again, I want us to want something different.

So

it may not be inspiring us to do so, but it's not preventative in any way, shape, or form.

And also in terms of like music may not make you, you know, may not be the reason that you sold.

Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true because of years and years and years of glorifying like drug dealing and the drug business.

There are people who grew up listening to it and aspired to actually do that.

I agree with that too.

And you said that.

I'll listen to that.

Well, you said it did.

what about the jobs that are there that the that the youngins or the younger people don't want to take and we do that's where culture is important but i don't want to because you're making a great i'm sure you finish it i don't know yeah no no no because that when you say that the the jobs may be there but then

some of the people in our culture may not want to take the jobs right they want they want to follow what they hear or what they see right when you go and see the If your mom don't have it, she's working a nine-to-five.

You see her sweating all day, coming to work, coming late, but and you're not able to get the stuff that you want but you watch Tommy over there he's getting all the money and he's selling drugs right so but I can also be a kid to go get a job at a fast food restaurant but I want the fast thing because of the culture so I will follow in Tommy's footsteps right so it all coincides you don't think so it does but I and I think

As a young person, I would relate to, say, Jay-Z or Nas or Scarface, whoever, more than I would relate to somebody else.

So their stories were more persuasive to me than the bigger culture stories.

But, but, but, I don't want to act like this stuff is indigenous to hip-hop.

Everybody in America wants to be rich without working.

Everybody in America is overextended.

Everybody

spends more than they make.

And in every culture on the planet, nigga, the bad boy gets worshipped.

I was just talking about how

Italian niggas, they wanted to be mobsters coming up.

That's not something that is only...

Yeah, like, come on, that's not something that's just.

I hate how hip-hop takes the brunt for a lot of people.

And be clear, my nigga um prior to somebody rapping about these conditions the conditions had to exist for me to be able to write about them exactly and i was saying when i was in nashville at the country museum or whatever they had fucking all types of gun glorification and there's mad country songs about the same kind of shit that's happening in rap but so so my point is yo fam if these conditions didn't exist then nwa couldn't have written about them

the conditions had to exist first rap didn't create the conditions that some of these conditions created the rap lyrics People rapped about what they saw, what they were living.

And so, and again,

little kids, every single day, whether you white, whether you black, whether you whatever, the little boys in the world want to emulate the people that they see get reverence and praise.

So, if it's a pimp in your neighborhood that gets the reverence and praise, guess what you want to do?

You want to be a pimp.

If it's a doctor in your neighborhood that gets reverence and praise, you want to grow up to be a doctor or athlete or whatever the case may be.

So, a lot of these things are

people trying to mimic what they see.

They're not mimicking what they hear so much as what they see.

I'm not sure that a song about welding is going to slap that much.

Yeah, because welders don't get no bitches.

It's okay to call this nigga an ignorant nigga who says some ignorant shit without vilifying hip-hop.

Like, I think

that, like,

you make it more than what's needed to be at the moment.

That's a gold hole.

There are a lot of moments where, yes, hip-hop does influence some ignorant thoughts, but that's not this.

This ain't one of them.

No, no,

I don't think hip-hop in general mirrors.

And we're choosing that shit.

Like, it's Rhapsody's out here, fam.

We are choosing some of the other lyrical shit that that chance.

It's shit out here that we can go to if that's what you want to go to.

But if we're talking about systemic shit, it's not the little Yachty and Emmett Till references, George Floyd and Emmett Till references.

Those I think are outliers.

But misogyny, homophobia,

that shit.

is baked into hip-hop because it's baked into American society.

No, no, that was baked into just American society.

So that's good.

And it's represented in movies.

It's represented in hip-hop.

It's represented in many other forms.

But here's the difference.

I'm just at a stage in life, and I agree with everything y'all just said.

I'm just at a stage in life where I don't want to stay there.

Like, I don't care that everybody else does it.

I don't care.

Because I only care about the fact that black people are killing each other a whole lot.

True.

And I'm tired of us killing each other.

And so if we keep rapping about killing each other, and then I'm watching these kids kill each other, then I watch them rap about having just killed each other and not just

fictional shit.

They're like, I killed this nigga on this corner.

14th Street.

I want us to stop killing each other.

So I get all of Americans, but I can watch Tarantino and see the same shit.

But the difference is, I'm not.

I don't identify with fucking science fiction.

I get it.

That's all I'm saying.

And the misogyny is the same way.

And I'm just at a point where I don't want to just keep saying white people do it or America does it, even though it's true.

Because we got to be better than that.

I don't want them to be our bar.

I agree with you.

I'm just saying, but when we look at it, we can't blame some of these things on rap.

I think that

this

societal conditions existed pre-rap.

Yeah.

They did, yeah, but Mark's point was is accurate as to what the current

landscape looks like now.

You know, it's not exactly like, and I don't want to speak to what happened.

I'm sorry.

You know our chance don't rap about killing niggas?

Because of how he was raised?

He grew up in a family with two parents, and Barack Obama knew him when he was a child.

Because he didn't have to kill niggas.

He didn't have to kill niggas.

He didn't rap about selling drugs because he didn't have to fucking sell nothing.

Can we also talk about hip-hop?

The normal consensus isn't that everybody in hip-hop is moving and living like this.

Like for hip-hop, it's a way out for a lot of people to get from situations and better their life.

That is the majority.

There is the small group of people who do live in that type of way.

But I feel like we focus, hyper-focus, on that so much instead of speaking about the positive part of what hip-hop does.

That's what I get disappointed about.

So, yes, you get these moments.

You get those moments where we talk about niggas glorifying.

But for the majority of what hip-hop has done for the community, it's not that.

We had that conversation when Dr.

Umar tried to go ahead and say what he said.

No, stop making hip-hop seem like it is the reason for a nation of black people being down in the dumps.

For a large part, it's a big part of why

this has come out of the fucking house.

And there's a lot, like the most successful hip-hop for the most part, is not the super violent, super offensive shit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, Drake, J.

Cole.

Most of the people who live up for that, they're here today and they're going tomorrow.

Jermaine Dupree was just here last week.

Yeah.

He was, he's, I'm sure he's close to a B.

I don't want to count his pockets.

My bad, Biggie shit.

JD.

But, fam, at 17, 18, 19, 21 years old, he was employing tens of people.

You know what I'm saying?

At a young ass age.

And I'm sure hip-hop has transformed the lives of all of those people that he's touched.

For sure.

Outside of sports, fam, it's hard to find a vehicle that has made more successful people

on a certain scale than hip-hop.

Yeah.

Than hip-hop.

Like, so, so I don't, again, it definitely has its bads.

For sure.

We all, I don't think everybody in the world.

Everything has its bad things though.

Everything has its bad.

Some of our bads are bad, bad, though.

That's true what I'm saying.

But some of our traditions are bad, bad.

And that's all I'm saying.

I just want better fries.

I just want better friends.

And we don't have to use white people as our bar or our reference.

I'm just saying in society, the bad boy gets worshipped.

Yeah.

You're not wrong.

Speaking of getting worse.

Worse?

Donald Trump is president still.

Yeah.

He's here for.

Yeah, man.

And he's sending the National Guard to D.C.

Sent.

Sent the National Guard to DC.

And for the record, Joe, I didn't put that on the board.

I'm just transitioning.

Yeah, bad.

Congratulations.

No.

Yes.

You transition.

Yeah.

Happy for you.

What's that club you used to go to?

Yo.

No, Cheeto.

T ain't playing with these things.

Yo, yeah.

What's the story though?

Somebody had it.

So supposedly

he is sending the National Guard into major cities in America, DC being the first one, to quote unquote clean up the city.

So

from what I hear,

actually we saw clips of them just walking up one kid like people.

You guys got your ID on you?

Like it's like stopping Frisk.

to the 10th power.

You know what I'm saying?

Nobody's doing anything.

They're literally just existing.

Just being black and outside.

So if you're outside and you smoke, you're drinking a beer, you're going to jail.

Like now, we just finding shit.

Kind of back in the day,

prior to

right after slavery, they was just walking around picking niggas up.

Yeah, black codes.

Yeah, you spit on the ground, you're going to jail.

Like certain shit like that, I think they're trying to get us to a place where we're going to start repopulating the prisons.

That's my personal opinion.

I don't want to make no political stance for us, but I think we headed there.

Well, it's getting wild out there, man.

If you in D.C., dc please be careful out there the curfews are kicking in and it's you know what's crazy is the um cbc is happening like in a few weeks yeah i congressional black caucus y'all yeah so i have no idea how that's gonna

pan out damn it's gonna be better than that cleveland thing

no it's not let me tell you you yo you guys

make that shit sound

and i got so many calls after that that little discussion happened up here about nabj like they shit all over it was like their 50th year It's like, there were so many reasons that I wanted to talk about it.

What did the NABJ stand for?

Blowjob at the end?

Oh, yeah.

I'm glad.

I'm flat.

I'm flat.

What the fuck?

And y'all really be saying that.

And I'm the horniest person up.

Y'all know what you are.

No, no, no.

That's all about.

I'm doing two.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm playing, man.

But, yo, but peace, but you can send a couple of them to the South Bronx.

Clean that shit up.

The National Guard.

I told you, I was there this week.

You better stop it.

Be careful.

You sounded like the Trumper up here.

No, you're a Trumper.

Oh, no, but you know what it means.

Everybody thinks I was pointing to a certain person.

I'm not going to say who it was.

Okay.

To flip,

I wasn't saying that.

They do think it's you.

They thought you was pointing to me.

And I wasn't.

And you ain't make it clear or go on the internet and make it clear.

It's a disparate thing.

If I say who it was, it makes it narrow.

It's my mom and everything.

I can't say who it was.

I can't say who it was.

I'm narrowing it down in my little checklist.

But you're wrong for that.

I didn't say anything.

No, the funny part is.

Somebody thought that he's wrong.

And you know how passionate he is.

Somebody thought he had some insider information.

Hey, look at what nigga voted for.

I knew they told me.

Okay.

Hey, yo, listen, listen to me.

I'm going to text you.

You're doing that as a trick.

It's no trick.

You know how passionate I am, especially with that.

That's with my mom, how she feels about Trump.

And you know that I didn't even vote.

You know what I mean?

That'll show us.

I know.

He said, I avoided Trump, nigga.

I didn't vote.

I'm just saying, like.

Mal.

I'm sorry.

You can't vote yet.

Yo, listen,

working on it.

That checklist is getting.

That's why I don't want you to keep talking about it because people are going to find out by processing.

Got it.

I know who it is.

Got it.

Ain't nobody in here voting for no fucking.

I'm telling you, I know who it is.

I'm not trying to.

It's not a theory.

I'm telling you.

I know who it is.

You ain't.

I know.

I don't know.

Yo.

Nigga, they can hear you.

Y'all on microphone.

I don't care.

I ain't voting my phone.

God damn Trump.

Fuck out.

Stop doing that shit, though.

you're causing a lot of havoc up here.

I'm not.

We're going to take you to the office.

Stop.

He is the office.

Okay.

No, you ain't no fucking offer.

Not my office.

Some of that Donald Trump shit, man.

My mother almost killed me.

Sent me a long text.

I'm like, this motherfucker, Mark.

Because he did that shit.

They pointed out that point he did.

I'm like, I wasn't doing a party.

I don't know.

You're scratching your nose.

Look, people did that.

They read too much into stuff.

Hold on.

I said, I'm flat.

I know you had a point over here.

That's the right shit.

Mark started doing shit like this.

Yeah,

I ain't gonna tell her name, but I'm pointing elbow.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, but it's getting nasty.

And, you know, like,

it's so nasty with that DC shit that on the White House actual Twitter page, they got these niggas.

Excuse me, they have these people mugshots.

They're picking up.

I'm worried about

mugshots for what?

What did they do?

That they pick up in D.C.

That's rule.

One person, failure to appear for trial on an assault offense.

Can you imagine the White House doing that?

On the White House.

Of course, they're all

of them.

Possession of a firearm, another black person.

I just noticed you did something.

You're going to try to stop using that word or something?

No, I didn't want to call them niggas.

Oh, that's true.

I'm never going to stop using an N-word.

That's not going to happen.

I wasn't calling them niggas.

You think they're just running a play action to divert attention from fucking that scene shit and all that other shit?

You got to find a diversion.

Something.

Or unauthorized use of a vehicle.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

And I know you were joking, Amani, but we don't want to send the National Guard nowhere to come.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm talking shit.

Yeah, I know, I know.

But But again,

I know you're joking.

But DC's filed a lawsuit against him.

Right.

And the problem with D.C.

is because it's not a state, it's under federal, it has federal oversight.

So stuff becomes federal crimes when they don't have to, if it were in New York or wherever.

Like, you know, whatever y'all want to clean up crime, send jobs, send food, yeah, send shelter.

Right.

That's how you that's how you clean up crime.

See, options, send school alternatives, and then you'll

get a lot less crime.

He mentioned Baltimore, and I want to shout out the mayor of Baltimore again, who is out there kicking ass.

He is.

Is the crime really bad bad in DC?

It's not.

No.

No.

That's what's crazy.

No, it's not.

Yo, D.C.

used to be horrendous.

I remember back in the day.

D.C.

was bad, bad, bro.

Way back with it was down there.

Oh, that shit was.

That's why it came up with the bad.

Exactly.

Yo, that shit.

They chased him out of D.C.

That shit used to be bad, bad, bro.

It's night and day.

He was tired of the basement out there.

I've never had no issues when I was out there.

Yeah, that shit is night and day, bro.

It's not that.

You be good.

Holy shit.

Yeah, you know,

complexion for the protectionist.

George Shell flow.

But no, I just think it's whack.

I think it's a diversion.

And

I don't think, I think it's going to get worse way before it gets better.

Thoughts and prayers.

Thoughts and prayers.

Tease and peace.

Ayo, Ayo, Freeze.

Yo, I think Thug was talking to you.

Thug put out a tweet and says, You fucking rap representer, shut up.

Oh, shit.

You think I'm a third?

Damn.

He was definitely talking to you, yo.

Of all the people.

you a rap representer i i didn't think so why was he talking to me i mean because

your strong defense of gunna and how unbothered he is because he's he's succeeded

you were the only one that talked about gunna and took the stance you took that was on the internet as of recent oh right after that you know damn a dog um

yeah i meant all that

um

yeah everything i said i mean you can call me a rap representer but i am listening to some good music and you are not putting out good music music.

So, hey, what do we do?

This is rap.

Rap.

If you don't want to rap, that's fine, but we're going to meet.

Not them.

Yeah.

Me.

Ice.

For yourself.

Officially ice.

And only ice.

And only ice.

I like young thugs.

I like thug too.

And I think Doug.

I would love to.

I would love to too.

Okay, well, then I don't.

Yeah, it's over, yeah.

That's fine.

Yeah.

Gunner has been delivering great music since he came home.

I am appreciative of that.

I am a fan of hip-hop.

I spend my money on this.

I went to Gunner shows.

I bought Gunner Merch.

I wish I would have seen that tweet before I came in here.

I'd be sitting here with my gunner shirt on right now.

Issue don't agree?

Wake it up, Bill.

Wake it up, bill.

Nah,

I don't really agree with that.

I don't think you said anything wrong.

I don't either.

But I mean, if the shoe fits, you know how people get...

He might not have been talking to me, but Flip said he was, so he was.

I'm just a girl, though, you know?

So, like, I don't have a dog in a race.

You don't agree?

I don't really even understand.

You got principles and morals, right?

Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

I don't agree with that.

I'm looking forward to some Young Thug music.

Me too.

I have been looking forward to Young Thug music for a minute now.

But not no more, right?

But not no more, right?

I'm still looking forward to it.

I don't give a fuck about that.

If it's good, it's good.

Maybe you still want to go to a Young Thug show?

I haven't went to a Young Thug show.

I wish you should see a Young Thug show.

yeah i'll go to a young thug show i wish you would me too has young thug ever headlined a tour oh

oh i'm just curious wake it up has he i don't know that would normally be a you question

word

but i'm not listening listen this is all i don't know because i would have went i would have went some of us up here like thug a lot like you do yeah and some of us up here just respects his music and respects his opinion on how he feels within his camp.

All of that's fine.

Yeah.

He can feel again.

I'm just speaking as a fan.

I don't know Thug.

I don't know Gunner.

I know the people that I know in Atlanta.

I'm just speaking as a fan.

And it seemed, like I said, everybody that has a problem with

Gunner, who are rappers, have been putting out mid since Gunner came home.

That's a fact.

We might be putting bad smoke on them.

Thug might have not been talking.

Thug ain't really put out.

Yeah.

He's been on some verses.

No, no, he got a couple feature versus features here.

He's got some chance versus

I didn't hear that one.

I like you.

I didn't hear the chance album yet.

And if it is fire, I will admit it.

Again, I'm not a hater.

Right.

But what I said, Gunner has

one-of-one album.

What's the newest album?

The newest album is called The Last One.

WU.

You said all the songs sound alike.

They've been saying that about them for a long time.

They were actually playing that clip you're talking about where they say all the songs sound alike.

They were playing clips from the other albums with this one back and forth.

Like it was a song here, song here, song here.

And it's like the same tempo going through.

But But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And it's working.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

All right.

Freeze, you put jeweler's discount questions on the board.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, man.

So there was.

Speaking of thug.

Well, it wasn't just thug.

So there was a jeweler.

The first video went viral.

It was the jeweler in Lotto.

And he said, you know, she was purchasing some jewelry.

And he said, I'll give you a discount.

If you can answer this riddle.

He said, the 45th and the 47th president of the United States have the same parents.

How is that possible?

Is that a riddle, though?

It's not really much of a riddle.

It's not a riddle at all.

It's literally just a fucking riddle.

Is it red for the answer here?

Yeah, it's not even a stepple fucker.

It's just a regular fact.

It might be a riddle for some motherfuckers.

For the

little sped.

That's what she always says.

Spit, what?

Spit it.

Spit it.

Spit it.

That shit is the Pythagorean theorem.

I don't know what you talk about.

Because guess what?

So what would they answer?

She couldn't answer it.

She didn't even give a like a

no answer.

Like, not even a wrong one.

I think one she said was,

are they brothers or something like that?

Siblings.

And then the guy said no.

So she couldn't answer.

There's so much wrong with instinctions.

The internet tore her up.

Yeah.

So then,

same jeweler was there with Young Thug.

He asked Young Thug.

Oh, same question.

And Thug was trying to talk his way through, try to figure out, like, he's like, it don't make sense.

It don't make sense.

How, what do you mean?

He's like, the 45th and the 47th president have the same parents.

Are you giggling it right now?

No, no, no.

I know what you're saying.

She came up next, y'all.

I was about to tell you.

I was about to tell you.

No.

I was about to tell you, y'all, the chicken tenders and the chicken.

I got caught with a question like this.

But a kid named Dret TV caught me with a question.

He said that

your uncle's sister, who was not your aunt, who is she?

And I got stuck.

It's tricky.

Wow.

I'm joking.

No, I was stuck because, and I was like, but I got stuck.

Did you get it right?

No.

No, chicky.

No, no, no.

But he asked me a question, and you know what it is, right?

How did your mom feel about that?

Yeah, words.

Words.

What she said.

You didn't know.

Mel didn't know.

How the fuck didn't I know it was your mother?

Whoa.

It's so simple.

She's not your aunt.

She's your.

Okay, there's another one.

Two plus two times two is what?

Nuh.

I'm not a math genius.

Sorry.

I'm out.

Wait, wait.

Two plus two times two is what?

No, it's the math genius part that was throwing me off.

I'm not.

Okay.

I think I seen that one and people were saying six.

It's not eight.

It's six.

It's six.

Six.

Please excuse my aunt, my dear, my dear aunt.

That's what y'all said?

You do the...

I said, please excuse my daughter.

opposite.

It's the order of operations.

You do the multiplication.

Parentheses, ex bonus.

This is American math.

Okay.

No, math is universal.

Did you say math is unique for you?

We got an equipment for the whole word.

It is American math.

Two plus two is the same in Canada.

Two times two is 17 in Canada.

What's like that?

What about the metrics is that?

What's the chicken nugget in Canada?

Chicken on that.

French baguette.

You just ate 30 chicken nuggets.

No, but there's some kids that

I ordered 30.

We went over there with two lads.

But people, the people talk like that, you got to stop that.

It's true.

Stop what?

Stop that voice.

What?

I said.

Like, you're talking like you can't really pronounce the word.

Shaky.

Shaky.

Shaky.

Shaky.

If Johnny had five hours

are good.

You ain't seen the

dog.

You ain't seen the mean.

I ordered Mary Wheat.

You would like to get some more.

So, so,

go back to Thug.

Thug and Lotto failed.

Yeah, Thug said they were the bushes.

Damn.

That was his answer.

The guy was like, no, not that.

And then when they explained it, Donald Trump.

Yo, some of them be caught off guard, yo.

You know, they ain't thinking.

Okay, well, hold on one second here.

We all know that.

We all know that.

Hold on, bro.

It thumbs up.

He was like, oh, yeah, I know that.

I just wasn't keeping track of the numbers of the...

I didn't know he's the number 40.

But the Bushes wouldn't have been the right answer.

That's fine.

That's fine.

It doesn't make no sense.

But I didn't understand.

Wait, you said the Bushes wouldn't be the right answer?

No, because George Herbert Walker Bush is not going to be able to do that.

The father said George W.

Bush.

No, no, no, wait, wait, stop.

No, no, no.

Paul said something.

I was trying to catch Park or something.

Because the Paul said the Bush made sense.

He said it did not make sense.

No, he said the Bushes don't make

because it's father and son yeah i know i'm

familiar

with us point bro

and the dad might have worked in the watch a fight oh my

god

the bush's father worked me yo

everybody just calm down i'll be ready to shoot something so much yeah what's wrong should we be together next weekend and more serious news guys what is again Who ate all the pussy?

Thank you.

Imani.

Wait.

Oh, I'm sorry.

It's been brought to our attention that the pussy has been eaten up.

Walk up, walk up.

What is it?

I don't choose it.

Crunchy munch right there.

Imani, can you tell me what this means?

No, I cannot.

Come on, break it down, man.

You don't know about eating all the pussy.

You the munch.

Willow Smith posted on Instagram the other day who ate all the pussy with a selfie of her crack.

Just look at his face real quick.

He got that face too.

He got the munch face.

Look at that.

He motorbunched.

No.

Yeah.

You got to be quiet, though.

His top.

Let's get Licky Tong.

He got a Licky Tongue alone.

What are you talking about?

Lick of Potter.

You eat two at once.

Lick a potter alone.

Yeah, yeah.

He can eat five at once.

That's his name.

Oh, man.

Willow Smith.

Yeah, Willow Smith

had a question.

Yo, dope.

So she posted, because I don't know the story at all.

She can't find no pussy.

What the top?

What the top, though?

With a picture of herself.

Crying.

Crying.

Crying.

Okay.

And she said she can't find no pussy?

Like, I'm confused.

I didn't even know she.

Oh, now we knew.

Our whole family did.

You didn't know she was, ma'am.

I didn't know that she had made any level of declaration as to what.

Oh, sometimes you don't have to really.

I guess I just haven't seen anybody with her either.

Yeah.

She's sniper.

Take your little ass back to LA.

She can't go back.

She can go back.

Why can't I go back?

She whip your hair back.

I'm not sure if this was a reference.

There was a Zach Galfanakis stand-up where he did a who ate all the pussy joke.

I think it was Noam Chomsky, was the answer or something like that.

Which is a great fucking

hilarious bit.

So I'm not sure if she was referencing that, but I sent you a clip.

She said she obviously said she was joking.

And I mean, people don't know how to take a joke.

Do we want to hear her?

I mean, yeah, please.

And y'all forgot funny existed.

She's kind of right.

she's big

y'all

like molasses

she didn't say right

but it was i didn't need to okay yeah

you know the thing about

it goes back to the question joe said on the last part i don't know if we answered it but

What did he say about watching kids grow up to see who they become?

Remember that question Joe was early.

It was more like

it uh to what to see like the

to see how they've been raised like the effect like the effects that how who raised them yeah like seeing them as they grow up this fall right there this fall right there

her brother you said they had a shout out to that's the homie but you so he was out he was outside jaden's your homie no he just he just loved me i was like damn you exposed i'm sorry

no problems listen

she was like on your dick a little bit about that she was excited for you to be friends with jaden Smith.

Nah, nah.

She was impressed.

Yeah.

I would have been.

That's a different type of friend that's.

That's the next level.

I understand.

That's the next level.

Listen.

That's a constant level.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

Druski, yeah.

That's Druski level.

Niggas.

See, now niggas playing with you.

Kai's my homie.

Shout him out.

Kai's my homie.

So is Druski, right?

Associates.

Yeah.

Does he know who you are?

Of course.

I don't know y'all.

Nah, Druski DM'd him in 2011.

He died.

Oh, okay.

He dubbed him.

He said he's not worthy.

He's got a a thumbs up.

Let's work.

Yeah, that was bad.

I don't want to talk about that.

Listen, no.

Now you're.

Because it's a lesson learned, nigga.

It's true.

It's a lesson learned.

Yeah.

And I don't make U-turns.

What else?

I mean,

the K-turns.

Let's go.

Listen, K-turns.

Last time we talked about it.

Shout out to Druski.

I think I'm a fan.

Last time we talked about that up here, people were agreeing with you.

I think you said that, or somebody said said up here that it's okay to go back even if you shun somebody i'm saying it's embarrassing if i shun somebody i don't think that i feel embarrassed to later go back to them and try to oh

but if he came up to you you'll say yes sir maybe he's

getting that

i don't know i'm just saying like

exactly what you're gonna do in my mind i'm gonna think that he's always gonna remember that and he's gonna try to embarrass me he might not one thing you could could do in all series is just apologize if you did something wrong.

So he might not even be on that.

He's like, yo, come on, little man.

I'm not.

No, I got you.

Let me know.

Hold my boom mic.

Oh, shit.

You want me to be the boom mic?

This holes are not long enough.

Oh, shit.

You the new JR, you the new JR.

Oh, shit.

You're Truski Jr.

Oh, my God.

That was following me saying.

You see it?

Are you?

You trying to pass

We got a serious piece of business to cover, though.

I think a lot of times in America, like lies get told.

Okay.

And

we have a duty as journalists.

We never figured out who ate all the pussy.

We'll get back to that.

The question I'm about to bring up is not the answer.

Justin Smallette.

For damn,

Justin Smallette is releasing his Netflix documentary.

On what happened.

Oh, he's producing this doc?

I don't know if he's producing it, but he's certainly promoting it long and saying that this is the one where

he tells the whole story about what happened.

So I hired the niggas.

And I think it's important in a country that often buries lies to have the truth finally told.

So

I'm happy to see this documentary.

That was your excitement.

We're cool.

Yo, let me ask you a question.

You're cool with the Smolettes.

You don't think the truth was already told?

No, I don't.

So you think there's a possibility that he wasn't lying?

No, I don't.

Okay.

Also, it's like the truth.

There's the truth.

What was it?

There's three sides to the truth and the truth.

Your side, my side, and the truth.

Oh, nah, he's not producing it.

It's the same producers that made The Tinder Swindler and Don't Fuck With Cats.

Oh, I love that.

They're good.

Oh, no.

Yo, listen to these niggas.

Yo, Tindler Swindler?

Yeah.

Don't fuck with cats.

It's fucking cats.

It was different.

But Jesse has said that, you know, he...

More of his story is told on this.

I think.

Version.

Yeah,

here's the thing.

I personally never cared whether he was telling the truth or not, because I mean, that wasn't the interesting part of the story.

In terms of his incarceration.

So, what's the interesting part?

Sort of what would make somebody make these choices.

Like, did the documentary, the stuff that makes the doc interesting?

Like, what was going on in his brain to make the choices he made?

What was going on in the police departments

to say

going to Subway?

Right.

Go to the subway at 4 a.m.

in Chicago in the winter.

And also, what was going on, kind of like, you know, in the environment, like socially, what was happening

to say that MAGA people attacked him.

For the police to spend this much time and energy locking somebody up for

false,

filing a false police report, which lots of people do and very few people get prosecuted for.

So for me, the story is interesting.

I never cared so much about whether he was innocent or guilty.

Not because I believe him or don't believe him, just because to me, like, I just don't care that much about that part.

I think people are right to care about it.

I just don't care that much about it.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

This is like.

And we never found out why he lied.

Well, this is not a lie.

Well, let's listen.

And let's remember, his conviction was overturned.

Okay, what were we going to say for his?

What?

His conviction was overturned.

Niggas, we know you're cool with me.

We're not stopping.

Yeah, we're not.

I'm just telling you, his conviction was overturned.

I'm just putting all the facts out.

The Netflix tagline says, this is a shocking true story.

of an allegedly fake story that some now might just be a true story.

That somehow might just be be a true story.

Featuring interviews with police, lawyers, journalists, investigators who claim to have uncovered new evidence about.

I'll get juicy, smooy.

Hold on, let me finish.

And with Justice himself, this compelling documentary invites the audience to decide for themselves who is telling the truth about Justice Smaller.

Oh, so they're not going to give us the answer.

No.

No.

They want you to come watch.

They want us to watch.

I just think he's going to be on their line again.

No, but even in docs, sometimes they don't give you the answer at the end of it.

That's the most annoying shit in the world, right?

Did he end up telling you the truth, Mark?

Did he tell you what happened?

I did do an interview with Jesse Smaller, one of the two interviews I think that he's done.

You can check it out on my channel.

Coach, if you subscribe.

Yeah, if you subscribe.

But

I mean, I've talked to him off the record, on the record.

I've talked to him, you know, I have a bigger

picture of the story.

Yeah, because of the fact that.

As often as you went to that club in Jersey.

If you got to the 20s, y'all.

Matter of fact, that's where we were at.

Yeah.

Y'all both got the 20s.

Did he let you in?

Y'all.

Oh,

sir.

Y'all both got the the glizzies with extra horse wraps.

Oh,

don't let him play with you.

You be letting him get away.

Get his ass.

No, don't get his ass.

We're so far off the rails here.

This is all I'm saying.

I think that there's a bigger story here that we don't know yet.

I don't believe everything that Jesse Smallt said.

Like what was on a sandwich.

That's what we believe.

What's the beef?

Who's hide the noose?

I don't know the whole story.

All All I'm saying is, like, it ain't just one person lying here, is all I'm saying.

There's a lot to this story that's more interesting to me than what happened that night in Chicago.

Please tell me what.

Watch the documentary.

Are you in the doc?

I am not in the doc.

It sounds like they should have had the door.

And it sounds like you know what's happening.

No, no, no.

I have nothing to do with this documentary.

I have just spoken to Jussie and know more details than what he's told the public.

Okay.

Was it the last time you spoke to Jesse?

Do you believe him?

What he told you.

What he told me, I have verified.

Again,

knowing all the information I know, I don't believe his account of what happened in Chicago is accurate.

I don't care.

I'm not, again, I started with that.

But that don't mean that.

All I'm saying is there's more to the story than that.

That's all I'm saying.

There's more to the story than just that part.

And it's like most people just focused on that nigga lying.

I'm saying, okay, that's a major part.

That's a big part of it.

And I'm saying, but once we stipulate that, if you accept that, if you believe that, then I'm saying that doesn't mean we can't talk about this other shit, too.

That's all I'm saying.

Is the documentary gets at the other shit too?

All right, but just so I'm clear, you do believe that nigga was lying.

I don't believe his account was accurate, no.

Mark, when's the last time you spoke to him?

Tomorrow.

It was a whole day.

He thrived for sure.

Maybe a year now.

It's been like a year.

It's been a minute.

Who's Sung Change going?

We've DM'd and stuff since then.

Don't tell me it's another Sam Cook story.

It's not another Sam Cook story.

Oh.

But they killed Sam.

No, rest in peace.

But what I'm saying is that don't tell me he was somewhere into some things and then they got...

No, no, no, no, no.

I don't know anything about anything like that.

All I'm saying is that this story is to me is an interesting story My question is that's the only way that to me is there I feel you it pause Let's say he's lying for a second.

Let's just assume he's lying.

We do he lying

at this point at this point.

Do you just

I mean could he make a u-turn?

Could he say you know what K-turn?

I think you should make the K-turn.

You don't ride it out.

You don't ride it out down like fuck it.

I'm in too deep to do that.

Ride it out, but don't do all this if you're gonna ride it out.

Or like if you're gonna come clean at the end, shut your ass up, accept your fate, come back, put your head down, do the hard work, put out an album because he just got signed.

They said he got signed to Dallas Austin's label.

So nigga, come out, put your project out.

See, even he got signed.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

Damn, yo.

Oh, shit.

Yo, stop it.

He's stopping me.

Yo,

yo, fam.

We're going to go to the bathroom.

That was for the first one.

We're going to go to Long Depot.

We're going going to get a rope.

Oh,

my God.

Subway skin.

Subboy.

Two light-skinned man.

We're going to go to Jersey Mike.

That never blimpies.

You go to Blimpy, though.

You're going to Blimpy.

Yeah, get that Blimpy.

It's believable.

If he was saying Blimpy, I don't believe him.

That's crazy.

Dogs, come on.

Come on, my nigga.

Come on.

Mark, you know dicks.

Yo, fam, put your head down.

You had a decent career bubbling that was.

Or you think you can sing better than Jesse?

Yeah, no, he can't do that.

All right.

exactly.

I just wanted to get it out right now.

Nice exactly now.

All right.

Hey,

every time I've heard you sing on the internet, you've always had that you cheated a little bit.

Like you had Donnie Hathaway singing with you.

So you were kind of like the backup singer.

No, Monty can sing.

Monty's a great singer.

I told you that off camera.

No, no, no, no.

All jokes aside.

He stayed a single camera.

You did have a good voice.

How do you have just many things to throw over there?

What?

What are you doing over there?

Look at our class over there.

And I brought your ball back.

Yo.

Yo.

And your family.

That wasn't you.

The one over there.

No, please explain why you got the globe over there.

I don't, they put it over there.

And the tower is.

And Queen.

Yo, y'all are, yo.

Yellow?

Yellow?

Yellow.

It's not funny.

Yellow.

Y'all donate it to the wrong people.

Y'all better donate to the cause.

You right?

Stop that shit.

No.

Mommy, what up?

Come on.

It was all at the same time.

Man, Jussie Simala is on some bullshit.

I'm not sitting here listening to the business.

He was wrong, though, by the system.

Both things can be true.

He paid you up.

Shout out to Jesse Simala.

Let me ask you a question.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

If he ain't lying, did the system get a chance to wrong him?

If he didn't go make up this big ass thing that could have potentially sent some innocent motherfuckers to jail,

the system would have never had an opportunity to wrong him.

Get the fuck out of here.

That's not my point.

So if they give him an electric chair, it would have been okay because he lied.

Nobody said that at all.

So I said,

remember, I started with

the lie part.

And I'm saying, in addition,

you can't as a system, we can't leave the system off the hook because personally, I'm less interested in the Justice story, but I think people have a right to be outraged by it.

As I said, people have a right to be outraged by it.

What I'm saying, though, is they made a deal with him.

And then after they made the deal, in exchange for community service, they then prosecuted him again.

You can't get prosecuted twice.

You can't.

So which is why they overturned his conviction.

Same thing with Bill Cosby.

Bill Cosby is guilty as sin.

But

they made a deal with him.

Right?

And then he pled guilty and then they charged him anyway.

All I'm saying is the system has to play fair.

Cool.

So I'm agreeing.

Yeah, so

I have no disagreement with you.

I don't feel no sympathy for him.

I'm not asking you to.

Oh, okay.

As I said, remember I said people are right to feel however they feel about you.

Just like, yo, dog, let me tell you something, bro.

Again, just imagine if they would have locked somebody up.

Let's just say.

Those two Africans?

No, or anybody that he, because he was saying some MAGA people did some other shit.

Any innocent person that could have potentially went to jail, let's just say hypothetically, a father went to jail.

Some poor incident Republican.

I'm about to say some guys wearing MAGA hats before him.

They probably did.

Chester and them with two teeth went to jail.

Holy shit.

Chester got kids.

That's racist.

That's That's crazy.

Chester got kids, my nigga.

That was concrete.

And Chester goes to jail.

That's some fucked up shit.

And he made up a story.

It's no different than what the white people used to be doing to us back in the day, making up fake stories and shit like that.

He might compare it to something else.

Yeah, it's a little different.

He might say Emmett Till got lied on.

Black Mark, man.

What I'm saying is.

Emitting did get lied on.

I know, but you might use that as an example.

I'm just saying.

No, no, no.

I'm saying, like, it's degrees to it, but I still think that all of it is fucked up.

I don't care if somebody got charged and they got community service.

They didn't go to jail.

They still were falsely charged based off a lie that he made up.

Get the fuck out of here.

We're not disagreeing on anything.

Let's move on.

I agree with everything you just said.

I'm going to watch this doc, though.

The doc is worth watching.

There's going to be some bullshit in there, boys.

Netflix got a Charlie Sheen doc coming too.

I'm going to watch that too.

That tiger blood shit.

Yes.

That's a story.

Charlie Sheen is one of those guys.

That's crazy little stories.

That I'm fascinated by.

Again, like Justin Small, I want to know what goes on in his brain.

Well, I mean, there was a lot of like, you know, chemistry alteration by all the fucking drugs.

Yeah.

Everything.

Cool.

But how do we feel about allowing these people to also benefit?

Like, because financially they're going to be well off of doing these docs.

And Charlie Sheen's story ain't the cleanest.

How much money do you think they're really making off these docs?

I think they make a whole lot of money off these docs.

I mean, I think anything.

I don't think Charlie Sheen is going to consent to a dock without some money.

Yeah, I'm not saying that.

He's not getting some money, but like, how much

is Charlie Sheen, my nigga?

He ain't no.

Charlie Sheen ain't walking to the table getting no bullshit.

Wait, but is he actually a part of it?

But he's in it.

He's in the dock.

Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is if he's not producing it and he's not getting like real money off of it, right?

And I don't know his financial situation.

I can't imagine he's the money.

I'm not giving him $10 million to do the doc.

That's what I'm saying.

Like Charlie Sheen got Charlie Sheen money, and I'm just saying.

Because they can't afford that.

Because the doc ain't worth it.

Yeah.

So to me, Charlie Sheen is like, they don't make a lot, don't generate a lot of money.

Docs don't make a lot of money, and people in docs don't usually get paid anything.

So I think sometimes these people just want to get their their shit out.

Now, I'm not saying he's not making any money off of it, but Charlie Sheen don't need the money and he ain't doing it for the money.

I think it would be similar to Justy because I have a story.

I have a story that I want the world to hear.

I want to reframe how the public sees me because right now, Charlie Sheen is seen as a monster to a lot of people or a crash out or a head case.

You know,

all the above.

And I'm saying like he might want to tell a different story about himself.

He just had an ego.

You know what I'm saying?

But all these, I love all these docs.

I love all these docs.

Is there a doc y'all would want to see somebody make?

Or rather, is there a doc about

whom would you want to see a doc like this?

Oh, I watch any doc, so that's a long list for me.

Gotcha.

I would love to, at some point, have seen that Prince doc.

If that would have been released, I would have sat there and not blinked the eye.

That's that's that's

that's a good one.

I feel the same way about Michael Jackson doc, like a real Michael Jackson doc, not like funded by Michael Jackson, not funded by his enemies, but like a real, yeah, like a real independent, like impartial

ice cream.

Go ahead.

You think it's an Imani joke coming?

No, a Mike joke coming.

No.

Oh, I know.

Yo, no, but I think it would be hard to do that because to get Mike's okay and get

a Ouija board.

No, no, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, like, or

information, like, where he was okay with getting that.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Your man that did the documentary about Malcolm X.

He was independent, right?

Oh, Dora Khamenei Muhammad?

Yeah.

That shit was fire.

That's one of the best documentaries.

One of the best.

Who killed Malcolm X?

Yeah, I loved it.

New York.

And

you close.

They come.

You ain't that far.

They're coming.

I live in Irvington.

Yeah.

You know, you talk to us.

10 minutes.

One block.

They got to stay on one street.

They ain't got to turn.

You don't got to turn.

Straight up.

Facts and facts, yo.

There's a story that came out the last couple of days.

It's just sparking a little bit of a gender war.

Our favorite.

I thought we was going to get through a power without a gender war.

We don't got to do a gender war.

We could just talk about it.

Do we?

We're responsible people.

We're mature.

Let's go.

We're thoughtful.

Shakari.

Oh.

Richardson.

We touched on it.

Yeah, we did.

Yeah, we talked about it.

When she got arrested, we talked about it.

Yeah, now the video of her actually being arrested.

Is there any new information from that video?

Does it change how y'all see anything?

I mean, I

was already like, I ain't with that put your hands on nobody's shit.

So

she told him nothing happened.

It was just ver uh just verbal.

She told the police itself.

She told the police.

Nothing happened.

It's just verbal.

You know, me and him, blah, blah, blah.

They clicked the files.

Yeah, they said, she even told him, y'all can look at the tape.

But they look, they did what they did.

What I don't like is

she said, why am I getting arrested?

And he's the man here.

That's crazy.

That's where my problem came right there.

I stopped dating her.

I would never speak to her again, ever.

Because of that part?

Yes.

Yes.

It was another thing, too, because she was looking at him like, really?

Really, Christian?

Really?

Like, getting mad at him?

And it's like, fam, you getting arrested based on you.

You.

I didn't do anything.

He tried everything.

Yo, bro, he tried everything he could to not

remotely get misconstrued.

Any put, he didn't push back.

He didn't nudge.

He didn't do anything.

No.

You don't think there's something a little kind of...

I mean, let's just say there's nothing he could have done.

Cop made up their mind.

We're arresting her.

Blah, blah, blah.

You can just sit there and just say nothing while your girl getting arrested?

At least no level of, like, come on, like, please, like, nothing.

Like, you're just, yeah, no, but they showed parts where he was like, yo, dog, I'm not pressing charges.

I'm not doing none of that.

My thing is this: do we compound the problem by now allowing them to jump on him?

Because they're not going to treat him like they're treating her.

Hey, did my girl just get done beating my ass?

Because in that case, I'm like,

yo, lucky Friday.

Yeah, this is just down for a little bit.

I feel like it's, you know, when she spoke, it was already like a volatile situation.

And you say things when you're upset and the threat of being arrested and whatnot since then she has apologized for everything she's apologized for her behavior she's not talking about the video or the post

yeah what you say what you say in the heat of the moment

she did a video apology addressing everything which i she was kind of smirking in that takes the sincerity out for me If you're sitting here apologizing and accepting accountability,

I call it like I see.

She loves this.

I know that.

I call it like it is.

And yes, y'all know I ride for her.

Yeah, you do.

But

even in the apology, you smirking.

Which

now when you're doing that,

the sincerity is like, no, fam, it was, if you watch it, you can see she's damn near smiling.

Gotcha.

I don't think that's a small size.

You don't think that the smiling was due to, you know, a sense of like embarrassment and her not really knowing how to react to it and it's just awkwardness?

Mel, if you were to.

I would accept that if it wasn't.

Mel is a ride of broken.

Because guess what?

If that shoe was on the other foot, if he was sitting there smiling, you would not come in here and say, well, maybe he was a little embarrassed and he felt a little awkward with the camera.

You'll be like, he threw that, she threw the boy into a pole.

If it were live, I'd say, fine, she's smart.

I mean, just make another video.

Like, if you look back at that and you see yourself smirking, make another video, right?

Like, where you don't like, or it doesn't look like you're smirking.

I thought I had a little bit of a different take than y'all on this.

Y'all be shocked to know.

I think, one, I didn't think she should be arrested.

You don't think anybody should be arrested, though?

No, no, but even in the context, fair.

That's a fair point.

But I'm saying, even in the context of the current laws and rules,

you don't think she broke enough laws.

Did you see it?

I saw the description of it.

And when you all reenacted it for me outside of the battlefield, you didn't see the actual video.

I read the news reports, and I read the police report.

And so I read all the things that she did.

For you, that's not enough to be arrested.

But it's contextual because you got to see it.

I stand down.

So if what I'm saying is nullified by what you saw in the video, then I'll concede because I didn't see the video.

I only read the police report.

Okay, but the way you read it.

It sounded like some shit where if I were a police officer, I would be like, yo, y'all need to go your separate ways, go home.

I just don't.

Okay, let me ask you.

That's all I'm saying.

Had it been flipped, you think it's the same thing applies there?

Police officer says, okay, it's enough here.

It wasn't enough to arrest nobody.

Y'all just go your ways and go home?

The short answer is yes.

Absolutely.

Let's just

do this.

Let's offer you a view at this moment.

Sure.

It was one of them pushes.

It was was two of the pushes that were really hard.

Like, one of them, she threw him up against a pole, bro.

One of the pushes, she kind of threw him up against a pole a little bit.

Full force, both arms.

Full force, and he hit the thing like on some.

I thought he would have bounced back and bounced back.

She strolled.

That was the one that I was like, okay, now she's overdoing it.

Her nudging him with her shoulder and all that was something different.

And my thing is this, if we're going to go by fairness, if he would have threw her into that pole like that, everybody and their mother.

Everybody and their mother would say he should should go to jail.

Wait, you see it now?

Okay, I've now seen it.

Yeah, and I'm like, Yeah, no, I don't think anybody should go to jail for that.

Oh,

male include.

Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

And just take it, believe it.

I'm calling Kat.

I mean, then there's no point having a discussion.

I'm listening.

It's an unfair question.

If you say, well, if I say no, then you say, aha, you have a double standard.

If I say yes, you say, I don't believe you.

So I mean, I can't.

But what I would say is, in general,

I don't necessarily accept the premise that we have to always reverse things.

Because I think size, strength, all those things matter.

You know what I mean?

Physicality.

And that's not necessarily gendered, but it typically becomes gender.

In other words, if my girlfriend were 300 pounds and six foot four, you know what I mean?

I'm sorry.

Then, yeah,

I think her push is different than my push.

Can I actually say that?

So for me,

it's about the harm that was caused.

But in this case, I think what she did was bad.

I think what she did was unacceptable.

I think she should be held accountable for that.

And if I were him, I wouldn't fuck with her anymore either.

I think we have to say that nobody should put their hands on anybody.

Gender,

regardless of gender, nobody should put their hands on anybody.

All I'm saying is as a police officer, if I saw that exchange, and I've done that on the street where I've broken up potential domestic violence and since

then, nah, I mean, I just can't, I wouldn't let him do beat some girl ass in front of me.

You know what I mean?

There's two things in that.

Hold on.

But just let me finish the thought.

Just let me finish the thought.

As a police officer, I didn't think that what I saw right there amounted to an assault.

And so I would have sent them home.

And if it was the other way around, I would have done the same thing.

Mark, you don't think that's a good thing.

That's all I'm saying.

You think the airport plays a part in that?

For sure.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, now this ain't just on the street.

That's fair.

So in the airport, yeah, we're going to treat this a certain way.

No.

Never mind that.

The mindset of somebody that feels that comfortable to act like that in the airport, imagine what you would do in Procter.

Exactly.

I can't believe you based on what I did.

If you're thinking as an officer or anything, and you want to prevent something happening in the future, you have to sometimes think.

But that's not your job.

To prevent insulting.

But that's like me saying, well, I saw you steal a candy bar.

You probably rob a bank later.

So I got, you know what I mean?

Like I said.

Because when I see you physically assault someone, even to a minor degree, it's not my job to make sure that it doesn't proceed.

I would intervene, but I don't think I would arrest them for assault.

But we can't pick and choose when you doing your job is at your discretion, then.

No, you absolutely can pick and choose.

Because now I got to follow the letter of the law.

We have you on cameras in this big-ass airport

and you are assaulting somebody.

So my job is to book them, Dano.

Yeah, but or we can have discretion, right?

And what I'm saying is that discretion is picking and choosing.

People always say you can't pick and choose.

I'm saying you absolutely have to pick and choose.

We always have to use our judgment based on context.

If I pull you, I'm sure as a young boy, you got pulled over or stopped by the police and frisk.

If you had a small joint in your pocket, they don't have to lock you up for possession.

And police officers make those choices all the time.

And that's all I'm saying.

Technically, did she break the law?

Yes, but I'm saying male or female, I would not have interviewed that woman and locked somebody up.

You, Mark, you know how many times, you know how many times things like that have have happened where people use their discretion to say, you know what?

Everybody wasn't a big deal.

And then they get

some bullshit.

It was just that documentary about the creator girl, the boyfriend.

Yes, they pulled it up.

It's in Utah in Utah.

I was about to say that.

And you know what?

The police locking you up for those five minutes?

No, it depends.

It doesn't stop that shit from happening.

No, the police didn't lock them up, but the police sent them separate places, and then she ended up going to the hotel where the guy was at when she was told not to.

No, what I'm saying is, Imani is saying if the police, he's saying he's arguing locking them up as a way to stop a bad outcome.

I'm saying 90% of the time when you lock people up for that shit, they go back to each other.

True.

Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't stop domestic violence.

I'm just saying this particular case wouldn't be something that I would want to intervene the police in.

And I would argue that 90% of dudes, 99% of dudes, if you were walking down the street and your girl did that shit to you, you would not want the police to come in and lock her up for that shit.

I wouldn't.

He didn't want to lock them up.

He didn't want to.

That's what I'm saying.

So I don't know why I wouldn't sit here now and say, ask for something different for her than I would want for myself.

And maybe that's the point.

But if the police pulled over and saw it, they're going to act.

But that's not fair, though, because we also speak to the mindset of men just allowing certain things to take place.

That's not normal.

That's not normal.

No, it's not.

That women shouldn't feel that comfortable, especially in public

doing something like that.

And that's why I would not fuck with her ever again.

Well, that's a great point.

Again, I'm saying nobody should put their hands on anybody.

And if you don't feel, because once they put them cuffs on her,

it was a whole different journey.

And she was a canary at that point.

She was a little different.

She was way, you know what I'm saying?

Hell yeah.

That shit's scary.

All right, cool.

So, now this is your lesson.

So, the fact that you got arrested and you know that this is a possible

consequence.

You might calm down.

You need that.

You might need that.

There's another piece of this before we close out on it.

And that was, y'all said that y'all didn't like

the fact that she said, why you arrested me?

And he's.

He's a man in this situation.

I heard that differently, too.

I didn't hear, y'all heard it like you should be arresting him.

No, that's not how I heard it.

Okay, maybe I was like, I just heard there's a man here.

I shouldn't be

getting arrested.

Even if it's nobody, if somebody's going to be arrested, you got a man right there.

I should not get arrested.

That's the way I heard it.

Not saying, yo, y'all go get him, but

there's a man and y'all coming in.

Really, Christian, really, really Christian.

Like, she's getting locked up, looking at him like, yo,

it sounds like this has happened before.

This is Grand By Mine.

This is how I'm usually going to interact with you.

And you've been the guy to walk away.

And we're going to create this pattern that's going to continue until one of us end up really in jail for some stupid shit.

interesting.

So, real quick, last question on this.

Would any of y'all stay with this person after?

Could you imagine yourself staying with a person after interaction like this?

No.

Not at this stage in life.

No, not at this point.

But back in the time.

I know this so well.

I know that face is.

Today, absolutely not.

It's like a shit.

With the Whoam, I just might stay two more weeks.

Yo, listen to this.

Is that right?

I ain't got no idea.

I'm believing that shit.

Your dog, listen.

At their age.

Listen to this.

At their age, I was staying with that girl.

Oh, at that point.

Let's be honest.

Every reason reason I leave her.

You was going to have someone when we got home.

But look, we grew up in different times.

That's true, too.

We grew up in different times.

The fact that she looked at the cops and said, yo, why am I being arrested when he's the man in this situation?

That's a red flag.

Fuck a red flag.

That is deep, bro.

Nigga,

we are minimalizing that.

That is not.

He's somebody, too.

Yeah, I got shit to lose.

I'm going to try to serve you up, bro.

Fuck out of here.

No, you got to go.

That's big, bro.

You have to go.

You know how wacky your brain got to be in that moment to where you're doing that in the airport?

I'm all with money.

Like, yo, you're on the body.

You're that comfortable.

Never mind just you in a hotel lobby.

You're in there.

Can you bro medal with

a bank scarf?

Come on, yo.

That just got in trouble for smoking weed a couple years ago and got disqualified.

So

perception ain't the greatest.

She got to be held accountable for just

never mind just the action of the abuse.

Because it's abuse.

I don't give a fuck what nobody's doing.

Of course it's abuse.

Just the thought process that you have as a star at this point.

Somebody that's recognizing

come on.

You can't do that.

That's right.

You can't.

No,

we need to hold her accountable.

Yo, get your shit together.

Whatever y'all got going on, fix it.

If y'all need to separate, separate.

But you, as a black woman who's now in this world with a big name, you can't feel that comfortable to just go out here and to be touching on anybody like that.

Let alone your boyfriend.

I agree.

It sounds like she needs some support.

It sounds like she needs some energy.

If they're in a house by themselves, I see her smacking the shit out of him.

100%.

No, what?

I see her smacking the shit out of him.

When that's happened to you, how have you responded?

Okay.

It depends on.

I've responded differently.

It depends on how good the box was?

No.

No, it depends on my mood.

It depends on

why they hitting you.

Shit like that matters.

You know what I'm saying?

But I've been assaulted by women before.

As am I.

So, so, dog, but again, if she would do that, if she would do that in a public airport, my niggas like doing that in Madison Square Garden.

Got it.

That's peace, man.

That's fine right there, baby.

All right, we did it.

We did it.

We did it.

We did it.

We did it.

We did it.

We did it.

It's been a great conversation, guys.

We had some other gender warship out.

Maybe we should leave that alone.

Yeah, I think we should put it to sleep.

Put it to.

See what you did.

I see what you did, Dan.

You alright, my guy?

You alright?

Are we going to sleepers?

Do we have friends of the show?

I ain't got the joke.

No, you ain't, yeah.

I got it.

Put it to sleep.

I don't know.

Pull up the Go, but get it.

You're really just destroying his perfect channel.

You fuck this whole shit up.

So, are we doing friends of the show?

Russia?

No, listen.

Listen, listen.

Y'all playing with me?

No.

No.

Never.

Y'all fucking playing with me?

Never.

It was a great thing that he did, but I just thought that we had friend of the show.

If we don't, then...

I just we played for a sleeping man.

I thought we don't do sleepers on Fridays.

We don't, but we didn't do sleepers on Tuesdays.

I don't know what you're saying.

Nigga, I'm the great disruptor.

What that means?

I disrupt this whole shit, nigga.

Yo, that's why you was kind of crazy.

With them what?

With them what, nigga?

Great pads.

With them what?

Those rooms.

Are you crazy?

Ice got a sleeper.

Stop rushing.

Letting them go.

Letting them go.

All right.

I'm going to Toronto.

This is my guy, Ryan Blaze.

This record is called Right Palm Itching.

Living in the shadow of the monster within.

Wait, that's a chip.

Was watching everybody eat while I remain

Play with 38s and 380s and clutched a Rugatoon.

But we wasn't reckless though, we just had to even odds.

Grew up fast, we ain't even seen the prom.

Bought my first whip at 19, five stacks, and it was all cash.

Cherry red, Chrysler, with tinted windows.

I crawl fast.

Gray interior, but they play me cause I had hubcaps.

Shooting at the whip while we fucking back, and we duck fast.

Stupid niggas around us is not allowed.

The way we test them out, we just ask them to read aloud.

And think, mum, mm-hmm, mumble and stutter and flush them out.

The obstacles, the way I ain't finding another round.

Wow, I feel my right palm itching.

Money's coming to me, believing my mom's thinking.

Hood intuition, they needed alarm systems.

My Muslim homie told me Qurans and Psalm scriptures.

I feel my right palm itching Money's coming to me, believing my mom's thinking Hood intuition ain't needed alarm systems My Muslim homie told me Qurans and Psalms scriptures My potential is high but requires sacrifice Wish I could party and fill up my social appetite But my daughter needs millions and I should master life Have to be proud of the current me and my afterlife I can't be regular and think that I'm gonna flash some ice and turn around and say that 100k is my asking price You gotta put in the work and master your craft.

Deliver on your product before you ask for a bag.

That's why I learned to make beats and perfect my lyrics.

Arrange a song, think of the concept, and engineer it.

Don't pay for studio time, never will send deposits.

I own my music, so every dollar I make is profit.

Put the studio in the house and I do it my way.

Wanna perfect your jump shot, you put the net in your driveway.

Look how I set up my future, I'm boss-driven.

No wonder why my right palm's itching.

I feel feel my right palm itching.

Money's coming to me, believing my mom's thinking.

Hood intuition, they needed alarm systems.

My Muslim homie told me Quran's and Psalm scriptures.

I feel my right palm itching.

Money's coming to me, believing my mom's thinking.

Hood intuition, they needed alarm systems.

My Muslim homie told me Quran's and Psalm scriptures.

And that record is Right Palm Itching by Ryan Blades.

Singing phones on DSPs.

Shut up the blades, man.

He bought it that.

He bought it on that.

He sounded great.

I am going to go to this Premier and Rock Marcy project, which I really love.

The Colts Profession is the name of it.

It's an EP or short album.

I don't know how you want to describe it, but this is Rock Markable.

got problems

Them little slick remarks, I took all that shit to heart

I'm living large so that shit come with the job

Still reeling and kind, been in the fishing ride Hitting different bitches I want from here to winter time

Which is why I keep the stick in the ride for the beef like you making shit bobs Now tell your bitch goodbye Don't let your feelings get you tricked out of your spot.

Them niggas that switch you is not willing to die, especially not by hustle hip-hop.

It's a killing that I exhibit, but it's not an episode of Pent My Ride.

All I do is shine and get fly.

This is design of hip-hop.

You can't get this feeling from any narcotic inside of Ziploc.

Shipping dock or prescription jar.

Just mow that when it's lit, I'm a ticking bomb.

You can't pull my bitch card like I'm Nikki Barnes.

I'm cut from a different cloth.

You can never put this song.

It's quick never.

So let's be real about it.

If you got problems, I'm

Besides your silk on like a boss, I'm killing y'all that's a body on the floor.

Remind me to hide the course, and I get caught somewhere in mind.

I tried to ignore the side talk.

If I get 25 and court, then it's my swan saw.

I'll be fine, mama, I'm strong.

While I'm kind of sore with the tomahawk, I was just caught side watching the next mob the horse.

Knocked your bottom hole, a lot of them fall.

I spent about 25 long in the product store.

I'm just trying to inspire y'all to witness in this first hand.

It gotta feel like you're flying the wall.

Fly silver mall, I skywalk.

My closet like the mall, that's no ball.

This ain't tug of war, but I got so much pull.

The gun clip fall, but I feel feel bulletproof.

If you got bums, I'm the sum.

I thought Marciano

as DJ Premier, Rock Marciano, remarkable off the coldest profession, which is out now.

Cop it.

Uh, Ish, what you got?

Pardon me.

Um,

I'm going to uh

stuff.

It's Aisha.

Um,

I'm going to Sasha Kibble.

The song is called Heartbeat.

It might be tears or it might be raining.

Replaying all of these scenes that you try to defend.

22 hours on flights between all you and friends.

You still stood there trying to fucking front on me.

And wear all my emotions eternally.

You lied or you lied, like straight through your teeth.

It's clear.

You don't respect what I've done after all these years.

The moment I try to move on, you just real.

And nothing but this feels sincere.

Cause I can feel your heart come beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

Out of your

chest, you tryna find the best halfway.

My hot words

next parties.

You get got deep.

Don't play with it, don't play with it.

Tryna spot on anyone you can.

Don't think

pushy black and be with all your fake guesses

And the moment I try to move on, you just free up it

And nothing but you feel sincere Cause I can feel your heart beep

out of your chest

You tryna find the best way

Sasha Keeble,

fire.

Heartbeat.

That shit is super hard.

She's amazing.

That was great.

She's fucking amazing.

Big Mel.

What you got for us today?

Jid was not lying when he said his his album was a contender for best rap album of the year.

It's fucking incredible.

It's so good.

And I'm playing wholeheartedly off of it.

It's Jid, Ty Dollar Sign, and Black.

It's fucking fire.

It is.

That is one of the best records on that album.

Good shit, Mel.

Jay, what up, boy?

Play the game

by the code

Don't change, only game

No you roll

Never trade

For my soul

Won't betray

my rose

And so my baby Baby, don't you go

I don't want to say

so low, solo

Let's be unafraid Till wear the storms, it's candy rain

Never switch up on me, don't change

Don't switch up on me, don't switch up on me

Don't switch up on me, don't switch up on me

Trust me

Don't switch up on me, don't switch up on me

Don't switch up on me, never switch up on me

loyalty

Look, take

all I believe I've been counting my blessings and spending them too

I know to keep it solid on the other side, seeing it through

Never switch on me, this ain't no multiplayer Mobile racer, pick your mode up, party favor Red and green, like do we stop or go Rev the engine, then I lock the door

I guess on this road, I cannot control Releasing the reins, they're like a fetish, I needed a pain You gon' regret if we do it in vain I ain't tryna hold no grudge I ain't tryna lose no love

They play roles like call time Cross lines and we all fly

Make a play for the spot What they say it is I Put a plane in the sky For my gang, I thank God

Everything we pray for ours We was looking at the same stars Now we ridin' in the same cars And if the world is all for you It's just like they are for me Don't know what we bout to do Just like Thelma and Louise Just like you need house and food Just like you need air to breathe So how I act this altitude Seen so much you can't believe But if we talkin' bout the drew This could be the proof I'ma break the rule Chillin' with the crew Crashed in the coop, crash bang the coop Clean out the cash dash out the loot Never seen the bad, we be playing few I been living faded like been on the loot Look out for my back like I do for you Niggas with inside, bitchin' brand new Bitches bird brain, niggas brain dead Keep the same game like your you're running.

Tell them lame, niggas move along.

So you see the snakes when you do your long kick.

If you love me, tell me when I'm on it.

If you love me, you should play the song it.

If my baby come and put it on me, long as you ain't being phone it.

Don't switch up on me.

Don't switch up on me, no.

Never switch up on me.

Never switch up on me, no.

Trust me,

love

T,

love

me.

Oh, heart and leaf.

Don't switch up on me.

Don't switch up on me.

Never switch up on me.

Never switch up on me.

No,

just

me.

Love me.

Love me.

Oh, honey.

That's J.I.D., Ty Dala sign, black,

wholeheartedly.

That jit album is absolutely incredible.

It's like the best albums of the year all came out in the last year.

I was going to say that.

Second half.

Yeah.

It's overwhelming, but I'm not mad.

I'm glad we got here.

Not mad.

I'm glad we got here.

This is a jump ball.

I don't know who goes next.

I'll go last.

You want to go last?

What about you?

You have seniority.

You go.

Oh, shit.

We should have let Ego first.

Oh, yeah.

Go ahead.

Should have.

Damn.

This record is a

crash out remix from Light featuring Friday and Meek Mill.

Oh shit.

Fuck you, pussy, you ain't never leaving me.

We in this shit forever.

She said, fuck you, nigga, you ain't never leaving me.

I feel shit no better.

Pussy so good, I should've knew that it it came with Smart mouth, attitude, left folks.

Told myself I put up with your shit because your ex quit.

Everything that's wrong with you, your ex did.

You took all that baggage and you gave it to your next nigga.

Look inside my mirror, and I see myself as that nigga.

Your homie said she sees me with a bitch, that was my stepsister.

My stepsister, and you knew that was my stepsister.

Still, you had the nerve to go question.

And that's the type of shit made me think less of you.

Oh, you like to deflect me, now, I'm addressing shit

And that's just unacceptable You said it's better if we moved on, told me best wishes

As if you really want what's best for me Said I don't love you

Because I told you to leave and then you left me And she lied, you leave for real Said I'm glad it go

Finding me time and she go Swimming on the deep side Fuck you, pussy, you ain't never leaving me

We in this shit forever She said fuck you Leave you ain't never leaving me

I fear your shit no better

Girl I think you like this love better when we be making up

It's like you choose violence every time that you wake up

Said you want a peace of mind and that you had enough

But when it's up with you it's stuck

You get in your fear saying words you can't take back now Thirty minutes later how you want me to blow your back out The only reason I love this toxic shit, that's when your pussy at his best now.

And you know, I'm about to bust down.

You listen to your friends telling you lies and then you buy it.

Don't tell me where they met at what all the men say, they should try it.

My auntie told me you go looking for shit, then you gon' find it.

And if it's me and you against the rail, then I won't hide it.

Cause I missed when we had in the mold days.

I wanna fight for it.

I'm talking about teenage love.

Back then, it was only us.

25 cents for a juice hunt In the back of your mama's room.

First time that we made up.

That's when we ain't gettin' no fucks.

I know that I fucked up.

But I know that you need my love.

But you say

crash out.

Crash out.

This that crash out.

It's so good it made me lash out.

Fucking Waikiki off Hobigi till we pass out.

I want you to come see me.

I go CC on you cash out.

When I seen you with that goofy, I almost spazzed out.

Kevin P, you let that bitch hate on us.

She was trying to get next to me.

Heard you out of that lid going up.

Squeaking out the ecstasy.

Bro was like, surely throwing you off.

And I'm like, definitely is bad bitches.

Niggas give a hundred bands.

Can't get in touch with me.

I'm letting go.

Finding me time.

I try to test her.

To find out she lies.

She like, fuck you, pussy.

You ain't never leaving me.

I wanna see your phone and let me see.

If you don't want, let me see.

Let me be.

Try and be real.

You keep talking while I'm talking.

Let me speak.

Hard to be thorough when you're living like I live.

Especially me.

In a free world, she keep lying like I'm regular.

In London, I got three girls that are cranny shop by Meat Mill.

My Philly chick had 300K, I took her to 3 mil.

She still ain't be running, I still wanna be that pussy up.

Cause I don't hit no females.

And I blocked her on everything, but now I want her emails.

We in this shit forever, fire.

She said, Fuck you, nigga, you ain't never leaving me.

I think this shit no better.

What you got

as life

crash out remix featuring Friday, Meek Mill.

That shit fired me.

I was seeing an earth on his sequence.

Meek and Friday is a little bit more like a fish.

I would like to see a project.

I would like to see a little project, a little EP, Meek Friday.

From Philly, right?

They're all from Philly.

me.

I would like a Black and Jig project, too, while we're on the subject.

That'd be fire, too.

That would be.

Yeah,

that would be fire.

Salute.

Salute.

Mark?

All right, since you played the other, the Vic Mincer joke.

The record that you wanted to play, my bad.

Yeah, it's all good.

I like this whole album, so I'm going to go with No More Old Men, Chance to Rapper featuring Jamila Woods.

I was in knee.

I was in knee.

I remember a long time ago.

I remember a long Shit's kinda crispy.

They say shy don't dance no more.

And the little kids don't got a chance no more.

They ain't even trying to free the old man no more.

One day it won't be no old man no more.

Mr.

Darn used to take the bus over from Halsted.

Mr.

Harper used to be so exhausted.

The barbershop bust look bootleg, look cost fixed.

Forget the DVDs, they tryna get that golf drip.

Freckles buying focals and Kango hats.

Spending stories about blocks that they can't go back.

Singing songs about the women that they can't hold back.

They used to rub them on the hair that they can't grow back.

Clippers buzzing, crying, grandbaby boy cousin.

The first cut, lil' man, quit all that fussin'.

God the father may love ya, the world doesn't.

That's how I learned to put my dupes up and play the dozens.

Lessons in the strategies of love and war.

Chess boys and king magazines, galore.

It's a lot less love than it was before.

It's a lot less old man than it was before.

Said we gon' live till I head turn wide.

No one can find our name.

And when we run, no one's chasing us.

Street lights are not kids.

home.

They say shy don't dance no more.

And the kids don't even got a chance no more.

They ain't even tryna free the old man no more.

Pretty soon it won't be no old man no more.

I danced with my father, Luther Vanderos.

We played caps so much, I turned to Randy Moss.

I had uncles all up and down, 79th.

With his boys betting on Floyd, every fight.

Cold beers and cigar smoke.

Pellycoats card decks and some hard strokes.

Jackson when they cars broke.

Sleep in separate rooms for years when they hearts broke.

So at least somebody there if they start stroking.

I used to play street fighter with my play cousin.

Now the streets are how you playing with your real cousin.

They said the world didn't love me and it still doesn't.

I guess that real old love wasn't real, was it?

The present is past, the future is sick.

The culture gave us cut out life-size funeral kicks.

Where's your instincts, nigga?

Act like you forgot.

It's the four black commandments, man.

You know, if we rock, it goes: one, watch your health, that's your wealth.

Two, watch your brother, that's yourself.

Three, watch your home, that's your door.

Four, if they want it, we go to war.

In the distant future, the twilight of our lives.

Contains all the laughs and highlights of our lives.

The knowledge that can help a young man go forth.

For the day you don't see these old men no more.

Tell our head tomorrow.

And when we run, no one's chasing us.

Street lights on the kitchen.

There's always come back.

On and on and on and on.

I know.

On and on and on and on.

I know we go

on and on and on.

We don't let it ride, fuck it.

Yeah, it's fire.

On and on, and on and on,

on and on, and on and on, on and on.

Till my hair turned wild.

Fire

that is

No More Old Men,

Chance, Jamila Woods.

Those two might make me go.

Fire.

Yeah,

I'm listening to once I leave.

I ain't been the biggest Chance fan, but from what I heard, that's enough for me to go give it a listen.

The album is tough.

I only gave it the one listen, but it sounded great.

There's a couple records that I can do without putting that's always.

It's a little longer.

It's about three albums out of three records I gave.

That's fine.

But it's 18 songs.

Oh, nah, that's that's great.

I'll take it.

I'm going to definitely check it out.

Thank y'all for that.

Yeah, for sure.

Damn sure well.

Good to hear Chance again, man.

Yeah.

Yes.

This show, y'all.

Yeah, great, great show.

Excellent.

Great job, Flip.

Thank you.

We're not being sarcastic.

Yeah, you be hosted, man.

You mean it?

We mean it.

You sure?

Yes, we love when you're a mic.

We do.

We talk a lot when it's on the league.

Shut the fuck up.

You sound like you, you do sound like Joe right now.

Thank you, bail.

You know I like when you're my back.

Hey, yo, man, we did it, y'all.

Thank you for tuning in.

What are you guys doing this weekend?

Huh?

Nigga, hey, yo, talk.

I know we about to.

I'm gonna go see Eric Roberson.

Eric Badu?

No, not Eric Badu, Eric Roberson.

Eric Roberson.

He's performing this weekend, so me and some of the girls are gonna go see him.

How many of y'all?

Five of us, I want to say.

And then we're gonna go to like a Speakeasy.

I know what time time of y'all on.

Speakeasy?

Five.

Yeah, like

watching live music and then enjoying each other's company at a speakeasy.

That's a vibe.

I think that's

a vibe, boy.

I hope y'all have fun, nah.

I hope y'all have fun.

What are you doing this weekend, boy?

Besides, switching out the sea.

You gotta switch it every once in a while.

What you doing?

Nah, this is my last weekend with it in.

So I'm

gonna go.

I'm gonna be home.

Read the Bible.

Tell your sister to call me, yo.

I know she's tight.

Nah, she's good.

She's gonna talk a shit.

No, I'm gonna be chilling.

I'm chilling.

Take this weekend easy.

You have sex again as soon as it comes up?

Nah.

I feel nigga lying in.

Watch one.

That's one.

What about you, bro?

What?

You're going to ask me.

You know what I mean?

Come on, yo.

What you doing this weekend?

Roll him up.

Right.

Put a little tighter.

Come on, yo.

What you doing?

I ain't doing shit.

Prepping for next week?

A little bit of work shit.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You got to do your

shit.

You're playing the shit in the mirror.

What I'm going to say.

You wearing the suit at Invest Fest, or you're going to wear the?

The strongest.

Fastest receiver.

That's right.

That's fucking right.

What's up, man?

Pretty, what are you doing?

I'm chilling, man.

I'll be in a pool with some shit.

I ain't got no plans.

I'm getting ready for vacation, man.

Okay.

You going on vacation?

Yeah, come to Jamaica.

Jamaica, right.

Okay, okay.

Goddamn right.

Miz,

all nasty shit.

I gotta.

My wife's gonna be at time most weekends, so I'm gonna be home doing home shit.

Clearing deer shit out the yard.

Fucking

potty training, my son.

I'm doing a 72-hour method, starting.

No pamper, nothing.

Yeah, just

nature boy all week.

Let me know if you need the nanny.

Oh, I think you're gonna say if you need

to see all the shit.

Yo, I think you're going through the diaper situation that I know.

You had some tips.

Oh, shit.

Bro, Saturday was going to be a bit more.

I'm not doing shit, man.

I'm chilling.

I'm keeping it light.

I'm keeping it light.

He's a doubt on you just now.

Now you crazy.

I got something for

Mark.

Listen, y'all, thank you for tuning in, man.

Remember, the baddies are insecure.

The broken women don't want want to travel.

Dude, man, I got that.

I got that.

Excuse me.

Because we talked at this.

You want to do it?

Do it.

No, you got to play boy party.

Dude, you started off, and I'll jump on your back.

I'll pop it up.

What you doing this weekend?

What you can't?

I'm not doing nothing.

I got a bad leg already.

You can't jump on me.

Hopefully,

hopefully you enjoyed the show.

Remember, the baddies are insecure.

The broke women wants to travel, and something else wants to happen.

Closed-minded,

stagnant women want to travel.

The stagnant one wants to do it.

Remember, keep a nigga like Corey off your lawn, please.

That nigga is coming seriously.

Hey, yo, we appreciate y'all.

Seriously, man.

Joe, we love you.

Shout out to Mama Faye.

Shout out to Papa Joe.

Shout out to the whole family.

Yeah, man.

I love you guys.

Thank you guys for allowing me to sit here and lead you guys and trust me to do so.

It means a lot.

It helps with my confidence.

As they say, I'm insecure.

Congrats to Ian again.

Congratulations to the rest of you, guys.

Congrats to all y'all.

Remember, rock and roll lives on in all of us.

You gonna get flea on your chest tonight?

Yes.

We love y'all.

Hit them all.

Come on, man.

You'll go down, hello, hello, hello,

hello.

We're the last now,

ever dangerous.

You and I

Great show.