Episode 832 | "Soft Guy Era" (feat. Jeremy Hecht)
With the release of Lil Wayne’s ‘Tha Carter VI’, the JBP opens its latest episode discussing the 19-track album (32:50) before bringing in cohost of ‘The Bigger Picture’ Jeremy Hecht to discuss the back and forth between DDG & Halle Bailey (1:32:10). The internet has reacted to the rumors of streamer Duke Dennis having multiple kids (2:24:00), the room shares what they think their ambition level is (2:30:30) before turning to their highlights and areas to improve on in 2025 (2:46:29). Also, the Indiana Pacers take Game 1 of the NBA Finals (2:59:32), Elon Musk vs. Donald Trump (3:18:48), and much more!
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Yo, are we recording?
Oh, yeah.
The true test of maturity.
No, for real, for adult men is being able to turn down a scam that sounds good in your head.
Is that what you're thinking of?
I believe that that is a large part of maturity.
Yes.
That's exactly how the dad went to jail.
We did not turn down no scams.
Oh, you crazy.
I think it's trying to turn down something else.
I think it's turning down something else.
Your pardon.
We all are mature, successful.
Our men, black, right?
Back
and kind of black dads.
I think it's turning down.
No, he's a scam whisperer.
Don't tell me.
He knows all the scam people.
Yo, I don't know no scam whispers.
Nigga, you know all of them, nigga.
The shit you be getting, I'm not putting that in the unit.
I don't want you to go to jail.
Fucking shit.
I don't want to go to jail, but we got to call it what it is.
I've never seen that.
We don't have to call it nothing, though.
Just let it go.
What have I gotten from a city?
Niggas offering niggas cars.
Nigga, niggas offering niggas, niggas' wallets, niggas, watches.
Nigga, your age.
I got this AP Real.
Nigga, it's coming with the pamphlet.
Fucking mine.
Outside of some mattresses, some cologne.
What the fuck do you think I got a scam for?
That's the other part of the jury.
At some point in an adult man's life, you realize that they're not coming to get you.
Like, you're not doing nothing.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
You're not doing nothing.
Niggas be hyping it.
They're not coming.
Nobody's not on the radar.
The phone is not tapped.
Yo, you living a good life, yo.
There's no need anymore.
Your phone ain't tapped, boy.
A lot of them niggas thought that when they got them PPP.
Nah, they don't know you.
They don't know you.
They don't know you.
They don't know nothing.
They came and got them niggas, too.
Those niggas was doing bullshit.
Niggas was getting three PvPs.
Yo, and I'm so glad they arrested all them people.
PPP line?
I'm glad?
The people that was bugging.
Have you been outside late?
The streets have felt different since.
Oh, yeah.
Man, them niggas had lines everywhere.
Oh, no, you couldn't get in nothing.
And hell no.
Joint Hills Mall was up on fire.
And them niggas, man, they the reason that a lot of rules is changing with how companies are operating.
Yeah, based off based off how people maneuvered back then.
You know, Ross.
That's all I'm saying.
You can't even still let the self-scan.
Freedom, though, until it's backwards.
You can't.
Freedom until they dumb free.
Dumb free.
You can't self-check out?
You can't still let the self-check out no more.
Oh, yeah, they got the camera then and the weight joint.
Oh, but my shit.
That's the other part of it.
My elbow went past, and he was like, Yo, you moved your arm, it tried to scan your arm.
I'm like, fam, I'm just moving the shit past him.
No, hold on.
We do got to stop stealing.
The self-checkout.
Hold on, you stop.
You stop, nigga.
The self-checkout movement
was lit.
The self-checkout joint, I packed the bags and act like you put something there and moved all the shit.
It was a whole method to that until they started catching niggas.
Okay, I'm glad you said that.
Free consultation advice for Acme.
That old white lady, when I get to the self-checkout,
I'm going to pay.
But in the event I decide to go about it another way,
there's absolutely nothing she can do about it.
Absolutely.
Why they got Rebecca up there?
She could barely walk.
She walks slow to you to do, like, we could out, Rebecca.
Then she got the nerve to be annoyed if you having a problem with the button.
Get your fucking ass over here and fix this machine.
We can run right past her.
Before I walked in my car, I double parked.
I didn't park where I was supposed to.
Fire lane.
Park.
Fire lane.
Right out front.
Right there.
I can see me.
My life.
I hit the button.
Look, look, truck over there.
Shit, some of these cars is a time name.
I should have backed in the store.
Shit, if we want to get to steal it again,
you get a highlight that you're going to jail for stealing some popcorn.
It's not.
You should have popcorn.
What is what?
Wait,
what is
this?
It's just not worth it.
Oh, having popcorn in your ass.
You think that's how it is?
You think that's how I see it?
You use your pockets.
Your ass laser just starts whacking.
What type of thief are you taking me for?
So he's boofing the popcorn.
Like a pat.
He boofing it.
Won't get out quick, got you.
Movie theater butter or no?
Oh, my God.
The movie theater butter.
Y'all niggas is nasty.
Oh, my God.
Disgusting.
Better have extra butter.
I have baby powder in my shit all type.
Lex always leaving some prinkles in the bed.
Hey, when I sit down in bed, butt ass is when I learn exactly
what Lex done put in his bed.
Reese's pieces bunched up.
Man, shit.
Fries,
gold Mickey and the white sheets.
That was bad.
And he got the all-white sheets.
Way underneath, deep too, by your foot.
Nigga, scratchy.
Did you read those scratchy shit?
Yo, kids, why do people have kids?
I've been watching that for years.
After 80, they couldn't stop.
After 1980, they could have chilled.
Now, when you was born, Blue.
After 89, 87, they could have chilled.
These kids.
Stupid, yo.
Anyway,
it's all good.
So good.
I like being the 80s baby.
It's advantages to being an 80s baby.
Like black.
They had medicine for the withdrawal.
First of all, that's rude.
My family wasn't on crack.
Also, nigga, I didn't go to identity crisis like you, nigga.
In the 80s, nigga, we didn't know if you was white or black.
I didn't say that.
All right.
We didn't know that, nigga.
That was your favorite song, nigga.
Black or white, nigga, Michael Jackson.
Nigga, watch your fucking mouth when you talk to me in my family, nigga.
You had an identity crisis as a kid.
Now, let's stop.
No.
My parents was not on crack-ish.
I didn't say that they were.
It wasn't disrespect your mother.
Yeah, but you just did.
I did.
He got the subtle dissis.
Your fault.
He said in the 80s, bro.
Why do I?
The medicine was out for withdrawal in the 80s.
What the fuck?
Got you.
It's cool.
Nah,
it's just great, man.
We just, I don't know, in the 90s, when I was young, I just had a good time.
Y'all niggas,
y'all dealt with the crack era.
I don't think the crack era was too crazy in the early 90s when I was a kid.
Y'all dealt with your kids.
Talk to your mother.
Talk to your mother.
I didn't see it.
I didn't see it.
You saw it, nigga.
You was born in it.
No, I'm talking about, y'all dealt with the hard shit, like the shit with the broken down builders and the Bronx, the shit in Newark, you know, all that shit.
Y'all dealt with that.
Nigga, I lived in, I was cool, gang.
Yeah, you was born at what year?
87.
You think I ain't no Jamaican broken.
Fuck you.
No, that was.
Nah, that was...
There was shower power.
You think you just stutter naturally?
No.
Like, you never said and just questioned certain shit.
No.
I got from it too, nigga.
No, I stutter because I I stutter because I'm not.
I know.
I know I got it.
I got scoliosis.
They was bullshitting back.
I stutter because I tried to talk fast.
Okay.
Born.
That's true.
That's true.
None of my family.
Watch your fucking mouth.
I'm a discipline family.
Wait a minute.
Stop.
You think you was born in 1987 and nobody in your family did nothing?
Not my mother or father, no.
He didn't do anything.
I didn't ask you that.
Oh, there's probably some.
I probably had to.
It's in the jeans.
No, it's in the fucking jeans.
Watch your fucking mouth.
It's in the jeans.
Has anyone in your family ever done hard crack?
I could have cocaine.
Yeah, but not.
Not cocaine.
Crack.
Crack, yeah, yeah.
I think so.
Let's still ask.
I think so.
Second-hand crack smoke could be a thing, too.
I wasn't around Paul.
First of all, Paul, watch your fucking mouth.
And we triggering people out there right now.
Y'all was.
Oh, man.
Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Y'all should be putting that on me.
I come from a hard-working family.
It ain't just you.
I spoke to all my mom and dad friends from back to when I was born.
They tell me clearly, yo, them two should have never fucked.
Nobody, if you could pick two people from the projects
that never should have been together, it was your mom who thought she was cute and your dad who was.
Yeah.
And I say, dad explained it.
That makes everything crystal clear.
It ain't your fault.
I don't know.
Gotcha.
It was that blackout.
Yeah.
79 blackout.
You know what I mean?
When Pop was a gentleman and helped mama up the stairs.
Let me stop.
Mama's home.
That's hilarious.
This guy's nice.
That's how it happened.
Y'all never asked your parents how y'all got here?
No.
Like the night?
No, I didn't.
No.
I did the math.
That was enough for me.
It was volunteered to me at Thanksgiving dinner or some shit.
I didn't want to hear that information.
You do not want to know that.
Are y'all crazy?
As an adult now, though.
I don't understand.
We don't want to know how our parents.
The night that you were conceived.
No.
Bro, I did the math.
I was birthday sex.
That was enough.
I didn't need to go no more.
I was Valentine's Day.
I was Valentine's Day sex.
What's your birthday parts?
October 18th.
Yeah.
October 19th.
Yeah.
Yep.
You don't know.
My mother and father was married.
I don't know what the fuck they was doing in their life.
Fucking.
Yeah, but I ain't gonna say, yo, on the night that I was conceived.
We don't care about that, y'all.
Yeah, like, I I stop my oh, wait, you just tried to stunt on me?
I missed it.
I'm late.
You did.
My motherfucker was married.
My parents were married.
I don't know what y'all are saying.
My parents were married as well.
We had man with parents, though, nigga.
Yo, he had to be a little bit more.
I wasn't sure.
Took his shit aside.
We don't have to figure out that one night.
He was married, bro.
He was born out of love.
My bad.
Yeah.
That nigga was born out of wetlock.
I wasn't doing that.
With the professional side.
Y'all was one night.
Mom was together.
I'm sorry at all.
I was sorry.
My bad.
Yo, y'all crazy, bitch.
That wasn't my favorite.
Nigga, definitely just stunted.
I did.
I don't even like that stuff.
Your mother and father still close.
That's the stunt.
That is.
I wasn't trying to do that, fam.
Your mother and father.
It's working, but nah.
It's working.
I wasn't trying to stunt.
And Mel was Valentine's Day sex.
Flip, don't know.
I don't know.
Okay.
I think when they got married.
Then the day they got married, my honeymoon.
Yeah.
No, the day they got married.
Oh, you're a consummation baby.
Yeah.
I had old school rules, too.
Yeah.
I started thinking about my fucking
back in the days and shit.
The way I had them in the tailspin, I had to see.
Well, Pop had moms.
She was baking cakes.
My mom.
Why you tell the story?
Because my mom is not a baker.
Anyway.
She's going to get me.
Yeah.
I'm talking about it.
She's going to get me.
It's over.
It's over.
It's over.
It's
All right.
Feeling good, feeling great.
Who's ready to rock?
Let's get it.
Let's pop.
Let's do it.
Ready to pod.
Okay.
We the service combination and inspiration to you pussy.
I just realized y'all can't fuck me.
You never will, bitch ass nigga.
We there, baby.
Yeah, I got the cheese, though.
She's sitting on them jump buttons in the drunk straight jumping, bitch.
I can't hit nothing.
No, I might
sitting on them Tim Duncan's.
And then that Lamborghini, I do donuts like Duncan's.
I come every bad bitch with a pussy, wanna fuck them.
But I just keep them drugs and just watch them fuck each other.
My nuts was not me for Christmas.
What's another?
It make a pussy when I leave that bitch with a puddle.
On my beats on my dog, I should rap with a muzzle.
Take man and flow, I just go, no huddle.
Baby girl, get it straight, dick, don't cuddle.
You know I'm out this world, I just want a space shuttle.
I'ma put some D's on that bitch.
Get these old starting to get like fleas on my shit.
Have you seen the Houdina?
She's on my hip.
Yellow, white, diamonds, colored cheese on them dress.
Them niggas ain't balling.
Yeah,
miss the way you play, nigga.
It goes always strap.
Put that in the club.
Mike Shake, Mike Shake, one, two, one, two.
Flip Mike gave me a lot of winning records to play, so I need you.
I need your help.
Yeah, please.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Check me out.
Look, 26 inches.
Got him sitting crooked.
Oh,
Chevy faster than the civil.
Alright, let it cook there.
At least talk.
Let me say.
Mail, help him.
Help your pro.
Help your little pro.
We're doing it.
We're in the middle of a Wayne Champion.
We're doing it on the wall.
We know what time now.
We had a whole talk.
Let's just shut the fuck up in here, man.
Is it genuine, though?
Are we genuinely playing this?
Yes.
Yeah, we playing this.
we love Wayne.
I'm the hottest shit jumper now.
We do.
We love Wayne, though.
That's six cameras.
Okay, let's go.
Oh, my God.
Let me get my part.
Let me do my part.
Let me do my part.
No homo.
Joe with joke, jump with your kid.
One tap for me, one tap for the DJ.
He be Callie, I be Louise.
Hey, buddy, the girl right now.
You're nasty, creative.
I'm so diplomatic, democratic.
I kiss my daddy.
The infinite state.
How bitch my daddy is.
And I'm his kid.
I stuck with my daddy.
All Miss Lee, she with my daddy.
So diss me and don't diss my daddy.
Cause who was that when no one wasn't?
Just my daddy.
Who was that when I needed money?
Just my daddy.
So who be that when I see the money?
Just my daddy.
Who said I be the one?
Just my daddy.
Hello, hip-hop, I'm home, it's your daddy.
When I say these, I don't mean the caddy.
I mean these smacks, acorns, and caddy.
Rick Bros, tip, stunning, fat yo.
And I can't catch cat, forget Briscoe.
Yeah, I just watched the bullshit with soap.
It's a bakery here, just trying to get dope.
Shout out to my daddy.
But I can get to it even if I was blind.
Like a scary movie, they screaming when I rhyme.
I'm a king, you can ask Stephen if I'm lying.
I'm a prince to the man, nigga, like my mom.
Too old, too cold, like West Salon.
Me, me, it's all about me.
If the girl got a voice, then she tell about me, me, he say, she say, I say me, we'll be inductive.
I ain't me with me and T.
And big body in my every speech, probably somewhere on the beach.
There we go.
Get it for all the people.
Sit stunned with that BBB dog.
Before getting caught,
you was in a project with a Bentley.
What?
Keep it on.
Let's go.
Bitch that full cash money out there.
Let me hear ya.
Take it up.
You get mud from there by this season.
Hang on for the one of the VIP life.
This away,
gotta wave.
My way I get it found.
I see a boyfriend, treating like a city cop.
Now I ain't never been a chicken before my city car.
This Wayne right here,
this club run right here.
Being outside for this,
I feel sorry for any of y'all that missed this one.
I make it slow, I make it flourish,
I make it out back to mama.
Don't worry, yeah.
Young wind on the pose, APK missed a lot of money.
I promise y'all be starting soon, I promise.
Y'all know who it is, you know what we came to do today.
Alright, that's it, man.
Mike check one, two, one, two.
Only the world wants to know this one.
Greatest broadcast in the world shout out to everybody on vacation right now everybody getting money right now everybody working on their grind
shout out to the nine to five is the entrepreneurs out there shout out to the happy couples and the miserable couples too it's breakup season stay on your grizzly
at the bottom like a heart shoot
to
be praying for the day you come back to me saying that you forgive me give me another chance i'm needing it like a kidney kidney.
I don't wanna advance.
Give me back her hands.
Give me back her touch.
I don't ask too much, but I fucked up.
I know I fucked up.
I admit I fucked up.
But everybody fuck up.
Now this other nigga lucked up.
Telling me in my clip don't give a fuck.
This is back when he was dating black girls.
She was some jelly.
Black girls sent you the studio.
I was a soldier.
I was a gangster.
She was my shoulder.
You were the pistol to my hoster.
Bang.
All right.
It's almost sacrilegious to cut this off, but we do have to get to work.
We got a job to do.
We do have to get to work.
Unfortunately, today.
Oh, my lord.
Oh, man.
But the second verse is when he got his bag.
What she forgot about, Wayne?
You forgot everything.
I remember everything I just wanna hear you sing.
I remember the love right after the fight.
You can't tell me, you don't remember those nights.
See, take away my title, take away my stripes.
You give me back my girl, and you give me back my life.
Give me back my beauty, back, my beauty, back, my view.
Good shit, y'all.
That was awesome.
Thank you, guys, man.
Thank you, guys.
I couldn't have done that without Freeze.
Slip Mel, Big Ish Parks, Jeremy Heck in the building.
We couldn't have done it.
That's a total group effort.
Keep this applause going for the best crew in the entire world.
Get these drops out the way right quick.
And the best fans in the world.
Shout out to y'all, man.
Without y'all, none of this is possible.
Keep this applause going.
All right.
832.
Welcome to episode 832 of the Joe Button podcast.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here, host.
I was really conflicted about shorts or pants this morning, too, by the way.
It's hot out, though.
I just don't like how the shorts lay on the couch.
I'm about to give them a mad package.
I was going to say, those are your coochie-kitty shorts.
If the wind blows wrong,
you might get a dose.
You got to put a blanket on or something.
Take a pillow.
Get a bath.
What the fuck, man?
What's your name?
I got a Pashmina in the back.
You want it?
No, not yet.
I'm all right.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Sorry about that, you guys.
Anyway, this episode is brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Peaks.
Prize Peach Gang.
You
had the pleasure of running down there yesterday.
Really beautiful building.
Beautiful building.
I'm staying out to the Prize Peaks homies.
And I'm here with you already know the vibes.
Gang, gang, gang, gang.
To my right.
To my right, huh?
Miss Half Off.
You gotta do this, guys.
Keep Keep trying it.
Keep trying it.
Keep trying it.
Big Melissa Ford in the building.
Queen's flip.
Flip get the money.
What?
I don't understand.
I play it.
Keep going.
Queen's flip in the building.
How you feeling, man?
I feel good.
Good.
Good to see you.
Good to have you here with us today.
Why are you looking at me like that?
No reason.
Okay.
There's no reason.
You didn't shout us out in the beginning again.
Oh, flip
and Mel, Mel, Mel.
But I'm home working on y'all drops.
Well, at least a male's drop.
Yeah, yeah,
and I am working on Mel's drops.
I can't wait to get it.
I feel like it was something last episode that I liked.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're working on it.
We're working on it.
I'll be last.
Don't worry about it.
To his right.
Yeah.
Famous Amos himself.
Hey.
King Wawa.
Take a bow
big ish mr 1000 doors make some noise
more more than that now
more than that now
had raz come up here i saw that yeah i mean
had his mans come up here real quick blessed us and and he's a landlord that go to all the properties he double checked okay how you doing i got some cookies for y'all yeah
you feel good that nigga turned into tore when raz was up here
You showing out a little bit.
He turned into.
That was your man.
I didn't even know you had them type of interviewing skills in you.
At all, nigga.
Nah, you cooking.
You back.
I know what you're talking about, fam.
Let's talk about your cooking.
I can answer it.
We're talking about your interviewing style
when he was up here.
That's exactly what we're talking about.
Yeah, we talk about your interviewing style.
Very good.
When you were interviewing the mayor of the city where you buy all the houses at.
You know what I'm saying?
He did well.
Yeah, you bodied that.
Okay.
You did kill that.
You can tell he's trying to get something.
Come on now.
You can tell he's trying to grease the wheel.
Grease the wheel.
I try to put my man on.
You do.
Without putting yourself on.
I didn't mention myself.
Well, the topic with yourself.
But he's on first already.
Let me be on.
He's already on.
To put your man on.
You got to do it.
Yeah.
If you say so, cool.
You got it.
At what interest rate, too?
Big ice.
I guess I'm going to get your mask in boy.
Oh, and it's that back in Bank of America.
Oh, yeah, boy.
Turn Bank of America off.
That shiny new interest rate.
Nah, lower this.
Yeah, that's right.
All right, next to Ish,
the freeziest of them all.
Yo.
Audience, I don't care if y'all think my intros is long either.
I don't care.
Whatever.
I don't give a fuck, nigga.
Anyway, the freeziest of them all, huh?
They can fast forward, right?
They have the option.
We don't want the option to be able to.
We don't want to encourage it, but they can't.
We don't want to remind them.
I know the part that they pass forward too.
I'll never say it.
Anyway.
Anyways, Freeze.
Freeze is here.
I am here.
Freeze is here, man.
Come on.
Mr.
Take it first is here.
New Apple Watch band every week.
Every time.
New Apple Watch band every week.
I thought that was a Cabala bracelet.
A new bezel.
No new bezel.
Wait, what you thought he had?
I thought it was a Cabala bracelet.
Is that what it was called?
Yeah?
Okay, thank you.
Yeah.
I don't know what that is.
Me either.
You know what?
The religion where you wear the red band on your.
Now we're, anyways, Parks is in the building.
Hey, there we go.
Keep going.
You're finishing now.
Go ahead.
Madonna used to wear it.
That's all I know.
No, we told you.
That's what it is.
Po head.
Bo is here.
Corey is here.
We have a special guest, Jeremy Heck, here
watching from the side.
Make some noise for Jeremy Heck.
and his lovely lady.
Make some noise for her.
Makes a noise for her.
Makes a noise for fucking it up.
If anybody else is listening and thought they had their eye on Jeremy, too.
Makes a noise for blowing that one.
Light up your eyes.
Eric's
right up your boots.
That shit is.
What?
Bitches like pods.
Party.
Parker.
Girls like Bodcass.
They listen to them shit.
Oh, we know.
I bet you do know.
How do you know?
Erickson is here.
And last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
How's everybody doing, feeling spiritually, emotionally, physically, mentally?
Talk to me, talk to me.
Feeling great.
Feeling good.
Likewise.
Feeling good, man.
Very good.
Just getting school out the way.
For these damn kids.
It's getting nice outside, so you're about to show some ass.
Finally, finally feeling
spring.
You about to see it.
Spring.
You're going to show some ass.
All summer a little bit, yeah.
No, when I mean show ass, I mean, you know, just it may be a, you know, every time it gets hot while we up here, you know, two people take off, three people take off, you know what I'm saying?
But we're here to bring the best of us to you guys.
You know what I mean?
But we about to show ass.
It's hot outside.
It looks good, Joe.
I feel like, okay, yeah.
Yeah, you feel like what?
Show our ass.
That's, I think that's the phrase.
I'm for self.
Okay.
I'm for self.
I want to speak about self.
I'm very selfish up here.
I want to speak about self.
But yeah.
Y'all too.
Y'all too.
You know what I'm saying?
But yeah.
Good.
good week.
That's a good week.
I'm with you.
How's everybody's week been?
It was great.
I was with you all week.
Nothing too exciting.
I'm shit's be blurred.
And
it just go.
Nigga, you're not a damn.
It was May, now it's June.
Like I said, I don't even really be paying attention.
See, now we know you want some shit.
Look, you got blurred weeks.
We know.
Losing don't have weight that fast.
Losing weight fast.
Nigga, be blurred.
I was in May now.
I'm in June.
Nigga, are you here?
Oh, man.
What is wrong?
Check on them, nigga.
They They share in the pack.
For the record.
Mel got the abs.
Yeah.
She came in.
She got the sculpted.
I work out.
That's why I'm here.
You can't get abs like that and just award.
But
I have always, always had them, okay?
Melissa.
Check this out.
Anyways, yeah.
You got abs?
How do y'all know she got abs?
Exactly.
That was what I was asking.
I was like, literally, my stomach is covered.
Let me be careful because we did watch the HR video show.
I'm not able to allow you to do that.
I'm not able to allow you.
She's slowly walking the dog to HR, too.
What do you mean by
what do you mean by queens flip?
AKA Trevor.
With tattoos located on.
Like,
you gotta be careful.
All right, good, good.
So nobody did shit all day.
No, I was outside this week.
I went to Tao for one of my girlfriend's birthdays, and then last night I had dinner at Perse.
That was fun.
Fidel?
What?
By myself?
Yeah.
No.
And what was fun about it?
Like, did we
do more of a deep dive than the name of a restaurant?
So, Perce is
a
Michelin-rated restaurant here in New York City.
We didn't ask about the restaurant.
We didn't ask about the restaurant.
Stop giving niggas shout outs.
We didn't ask them about the restaurant.
They don't need to be in the middle.
Trust me.
Trust me.
Trust me.
They do not need our shit.
You said that about BMW.
So, one of the most interesting parts about this restaurant is
you can't open the door.
You can't open the door to get in.
Okay, ma'am.
They have to open the door for you, and it's
a sliding glass door, exactly.
So unless you have a reservation, you cannot walk in.
Gotcha.
So they lock you inside.
Fire has you.
Okay, got you.
I'm listening.
It was, okay, so then it's like...
I see where this is a thing.
Y'all laughing at it, but I understand.
This is your man.
Corey A had a girlfriend, and
Corey's a male from that shit that happened
when he was engaged.
Y'all know why Corey is like this.
He got engaged, it went afoul, and now
this is what we get.
Yeah.
So go ahead, Mel.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
Okay, excuse me.
All right.
So anyways, the Time Warner Building.
It has a.
How did you get an invite?
Huh?
How did you get an invite?
How did you get an invite?
I had reservations.
So anybody can make a reservation?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, so you walk inside and it's got a view of Central Park, and it's really, really beautiful.
It's upstairs?
It's on the fourth floor in the Time Warner Center.
Okay.
Yeah, in Columbus Circle.
How was the food?
So it was 14 courses and with little courses.
Yes.
Okay.
With a flight of wine.
And
it was.
Was it like artsy food?
Extraordinarily and very decadent and a lot.
But did it taste good?
Yes.
Hold up.
There you go.
That was from earlier.
That's not for now.
We're not clapping today.
And then that's it.
So you enjoyed yourself, ma'am.
Did you have a good time?
Okay.
Did anybody notice you while you were in there?
What way?
No, like.
You know, you're very clever and a fucking asshole.
I'm just listening.
That's okay.
I'm done.
This is my little recap of what I did during the week.
Nobody else.
Oh, you're mad more than us.
They don't do shit.
You did way more than us.
I was talking with you, but
I'm not mad at per se.
Yeah, it was fun.
It was definitely fun.
I have a group of friends, and we're just trying to try all the Michelin restaurants in, you know, around
the country.
It does, though.
It's dope.
Yeah.
That's fire.
Per se.
I'm trying to think of something cool like that for like a group of guy friends to do.
Watch the game.
No.
Try all the strip clubs.
Try all the strip clubs for sure.
Yeah, I mean, you guys should think about like some out-the-box activities for y'all.
Somebody left a comment the other day and was like under Podwives.
And they said, yo, next season, every episode of pod wives should just be shot in a different location like jamaica and
that's why that's fly and i was like you know what as as crazy as that may sound it's not the case i don't think that's a bad idea one a month
yeah roughly but i mean even if you did it every other month on the fly around tip do it that way that's kind of fly that's kind of fly super dope
so i'm not all the way opposed to that but but my brain is working i'm glad that your crew found something that's fly to do like that's dope now yes no it's fine so how do you try all the Michelin star restaurants and remain so
feed you?
She worked out right away.
She works out.
And then don't do late-night dinners.
And, you know, it's small portions.
Tell me.
Duh.
14 courses.
You know, they got to be small.
She ain't seen Wade Bryant in about nine months.
Anyway.
Well, because she learned herself.
This is not the Melissa Ford.
This is not the Melissa Ford show.
Hot and bargain coming and stationing it near you.
Gotcha.
Wayne.
Wayne.
Let's start.
Let's get right to it.
Yeah.
No need to bull, no need to hook pussyfoot around.
It was late on the DSP, so this is a common thread, I feel like.
We've had the conversation multiple times.
I stayed up till like 12:30 waiting for it, and it didn't show, so I was like, fuck it, I'm going to bed.
It was a weird, it was a weird, even prior to the drop.
No single, no track list until 11, I think, well, it went out like 11.30, something like that, the actual track list.
It was a fake one floating around,
but we heard nothing from what this album would sound like,
direction, just nothing.
I was damn near like a surprise drop.
I thought it wasn't going to come out.
Yeah, did you guys know about there was a reason for that?
They had a release date?
Yeah.
Okay.
He dropped the release date back
during the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Like right before the Super Bowl.
He had an announcement to make, and it was that the album was coming.
We were like, damn,
we came here and talked about it.
I said, damn, that's kind of weird for you to just pop up with this announcement for your album.
I will say that it's pretty fitting that there was no
direction being presented in the public because there was absolutely no direction on this album whatsoever.
At all.
Whatsoever.
So I woke up and hit the social media streets and it was just shitting all over Wayne's album.
So I was scared to hit play.
Okay.
I was scared to hit play, but I did, naturally.
And the first couple songs, I'm like, man, I think people are being a little hard on this.
This ain't so bad.
And then it made a turn.
And then a very hard left came.
Right into a brick wall.
Maybe worse than a brick.
I don't know what the brick is.
How many songs?
Wow.
I don't know, 20 something, maybe 19.
19 songs.
So I'm going to tell you, I had one of the producers sent me five records early yesterday, like three o'clock.
Okay.
It happened to be like the best five records on the album.
So I'm like, all right, I ain't really, if this is where you're going, okay, this could work.
Right.
I did see that that track list that was floating around was false.
I'm like, okay, that was good.
Because when I saw those list of features, I was like,
I don't know if this is going to fit the Carter series.
Yeah.
Like just reading the names,
I don't know.
But then you get to listen to the album.
Intro was hard.
Like you said, the first couple songs, and then it's just, it sounds like there was no, it sounds like he went through a hard drive of records and just randomly picked.
Yeah, or whoever did it.
I don't know if it was him, if he had some, you know, I've heard rumors that somebody else was working with organizing the album, but whoever it was, it just sounds like these are just random records.
All right, yo, give me that one, give me that one, give me this one, give me this one.
Yeah, it covered different genres.
There's rock records on here.
There's, yeah, I don't know.
Once I hit the bottom record, I was like, okay, we've gone too far.
And then when I heard the elephant, that's when I said, okay, it was okay.
Okay.
This is not for me anymore.
Yeah.
When you say it made like a hard left, what does that mean?
A hard left,
because when the first couple records are okay
or even good.
You kind of stopped your review after the intro was hard and began to talk about something else.
Yeah, you did.
Sorry?
I was waiting on your review for you.
You want like track by track?
No, he said the first couple was cool.
First couple?
Play one of the records that you think is a high.
Okay,
I guess that's what I'm saying.
Got you.
Like, y'all are doing a great job at whatever Gregory Hines shit is going on right now.
Of course, I mean, he's about to go to a show, nigga.
He's about to go to a show.
I hope he doesn't perform none of these records at the show that I'm going to.
Don't worry, I'm going to take it a step further in a second.
Sure.
I like the intro, so this is Welcome to the Carter.
When you say intro, you mean track two,
track one.
Track one is just
this is the actual record.
Yeah, you got it, got it.
It's the only
way
in the hustle of the streets.
We make our play.
Welcome to the corner to the corner.
When a man is alive,
this is what told me he didn't have money for beats.
Yeah.
Very early.
Track two.
Man of my word.
I stand on my word.
Y'all get on my nerves.
I get high and land like a bird.
Respect I don't demand.
I deserve.
My stand is superb.
Family first.
Family second.
Family third.
Scrambling swerves.
Scamming, I smell defended.
I'm first.
I treat sweet, smart bitches like candid, like nerds.
I know the fish cameras observe, cause the cash is absurd.
I mean, the house so fucking massive.
I just added concierge and fit.
I like that.
Nah, he was wrong.
I like that.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So there's no need to look at me and say, no, I'm just saying I got it.
Well,
we're having a conversation.
Yeah, I like that.
We're just talking.
All right.
The next record was a Rock the Bells flip that I don't like the beat,
but he's rapping.
Like, actually, Actually, let me reply to flip because we're doing this.
I challenge you to listen to the whole thing and see how you feel at the end.
That whole record.
Yeah.
Like,
it did sound cool.
By the end of it, I was sick of what the producer was doing.
Yeah.
With the beat.
Yeah.
Got it.
And the hook.
It felt like an AI sample thing.
I don't know what that was.
It's a far cry from, hey, Mr.
Conn.
Yeah.
And him, it's just, it sounds like
just a hard ass SoundCloud beat.
Yeah, it's contrived too.
Like some of the dope shit about like vocal samples and vocal sample flips is like the flip part.
How'd you get that?
Yeah, and you took this and made it into saying what you wanted it to say.
Whereas if you, I don't know if it's AI or if they had someone just like do some sample recreation shit, but when it's like two on the nose, it's not dope.
Like we didn't sample the 70s records with the vocal sample just because of how it sounded.
It was the creativity of saying, oh, I could make this sample sound like it's talking about this.
When they were, maybe it was a love song or something like that.
I got to see what you're saying.
Whereas if you just put some, I don't know, like I said, if it's AI, you put it in the generator and make it say what you want it to say.
It sound too perfect, you mean?
It's not too perfect.
It's just there's no creativity there.
The creativity is in the flip.
If there's no flip, it's.
So, for example, like Style Speed, I get high.
Exactly.
Got it.
Great example.
Gotcha.
Great example.
Okay.
But continue.
Come on, priest.
I think the Big X plug record came up soon after.
I like that that record.
The Bells record was next.
Okay.
You want to just go?
Oh, we can.
Yes, track my track.
You can track my track record.
I don't mind.
Oh, hell no, not for 19 songs.
No, it's not playing with Lil Wayne today.
Once we get to track six, we can start to veer off.
Disperse.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
All right, so
where do you want to go?
Go ahead.
Give me 20 seconds, holy shit.
Run through it.
Fucking cool.
Let's go.
Let's go, Joe.
Yeah, let's get this whole shit.
You about to take it further.
I see it in your eyes.
This is another one that that I thought was hard for the first 20 seconds.
That was a hard intro than the beat.
The beat didn't live up to the intro.
Is it that you find the beat too elementary?
Leave your body looking like BBC.
I guess that's a way to put it.
There we go.
Pause.
You can pause.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess.
It don't got enough
play in it.
It's no.
It's not what Bangladesh would have done.
Yeah.
No, that's not.
Even if it's the same sounds.
The swag is missing from it.
It sounds like a novice producer.
Gotcha.
And that's without me checking the credits.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
No, there's no big name producers of note.
except Mandy Fresh did one way late in the album.
That's the only big name I remember.
And, and, and, let me just say,
what track are we on right now?
This is two.
Well, this is three.
Technically.
Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead.
I like the big ex the plug record.
The big X
record, to me, sounds like a Big Ex the Plug record.
For sure.
It does.
So I'm not so mad at that.
I like that record.
I love that record.
The two chains record, I wasn't so mad at either.
I wasn't even mad at that, like, we'll get into the terrible
genre mashups later.
I wasn't terribly mad at the Jelly Roll and Big Charlotte record.
I didn't hate that record.
I didn't like that one, too.
Oh, I was mad.
I didn't mind that record.
I'm not mad at that.
Play a little bit of it.
That shit was cool.
Play a little bit of it.
That's the one with Jelly Rolls on the hook, right?
Yeah.
I didn't hate that record.
And Charlotte Rip.
Here, I got you.
I got you, Freeze.
You got it?
Okay.
Yeah, free.
You can tell he ain't never had the Ox.
Yeah, man.
You could tell the party nigga never said.
the exact opposite.
No, I know, I can't do that.
I'm not mad at this.
I don't know if I would have started with the hook.
I don't know if I would have started with the hook.
Definitely should have.
been.
Sound like he made this in the same session as this.
Sound like the song he made before he made How to Love.
This sound like something that should have been, this sound like something that that he should have sent, that he maybe sent to M on the recovery album.
But a bad version of it.
And he put out an album that I thought had recovery vibes.
I don't remember the name of it.
Rebirth.
This sounds like something that was left on the cutting room floor of that project, but I'm going to rely on the
jelly roll feature here.
That's literally what a lot of these records I'm listening to and I'm like, okay, this sounded like it was left over from here.
Sounds like it was left over from there.
And what track are we on?
That was five, maybe something.
We skipped four.
We skipped.
That's fine.
We skipped.
That was the big X record.
To me, listening to it this morning, and again, this is off a couple of listens because I did let it play just to make sure.
It was slowly becoming painfully obvious that this was not the same Wayne.
See,
I disagree with that.
I have a different stance.
This is not the same Wayne team.
Yes.
Is what I got from it.
But he's rapping.
It's still the same Wayne.
It's not the same Wayne.
If you don't have the team, you're not the same.
100%.
Your team is you.
The team was myself.
I was getting to that, but this is not the same Wayne.
That makes you question, why is it not the same Wayne?
This sounds like who the fuck is around him?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I came on here and made that point before.
You did.
This sounds like who is this nigga?
Is the engineer nigga still managing him?
He may be.
I don't even know.
I'm not sure i'm assuming so because that was only a couple and that's disappointing right even with the kendrick and tde split boy did they lay a foundation for how the split looks when it went well right yeah hey i'm gonna still be around i'm gonna still tweet your shit i'm at the shows
top still got me my tickets damn near like
It's painfully obvious.
There's no Mac.
There's no baby.
There's no, I don't care that Manny Fresh is on there at the end for namesake.
There's no Manny Fresh.
There's no Drake.
There's no Nikki.
Nobody's walking through that door.
It is just
a God-level rapping way.
And unfortunately, rap is 2% of rap.
That's the facts.
Okay.
See, because that's what scared me too at this point in the album.
Well, as it continues, I didn't hear like a proper song at all.
I didn't hear a proper song.
With regards to format.
Format, arranging, topic, concept,
cohesiveness.
I hear amazing verses, for the most part,
slapped over
shit.
Then we get to this travesty.
Let's get to this travesty.
Oh, yes.
Well, please stop, please stop, please, stop, please.
I have to prepare for this.
This is so bad.
What's that?
Like that?
This is so bad.
This is banned.
It sounds like a really good one.
This is a song called Bant from New Orleans.
It sounds like they chased that mel yeah band from it's a play on a song called bant from tv that's a hipiega song it's a hip-hop classic you guys are fucking holy featuring featuring big pun nature cam uh style style kiss
an absolute classic
I might have heard that.
We still don't know.
Well, now we have to play a little bit.
We still don't know who had the best verse from this song.
Still, 30 years later.
Yeah, 25 years.
It's whatever.
And Lil Wayne
is
a hip-hop guy for real and a skateboarder, but he respects what band from TV is.
He
did the band from TV for style on the mixtape and killed it.
Why he decided to do band from No
with that horrendous beat flip.
Hey, yo, yo, what the fuck is going on?
DJ Dell.
Oh, shit.
I got you.
All my shit is mixtape shit.
I know, man.
Oh, shit.
Oh, this is a mixtape shit, too.
Oh, there we go.
I gotta call it like I see it.
Talking how I feel.
Walking my walk, thug down, all depending.
Cause I'm soon to be up.
Give me room, watch me heat up.
Niggas try to stick me like I do, Louima.
Follow the leader, let's go, Dane.
Let's go, quick.
Show the repertoire with that 60.
Just for the non-believers.
I show minds, no hard to be lovers.
I get pussy with my father's features.
Pluff heavily, see me at 6'1, way above 70.
Catch me in spots.
I said that shit like it was brolic.
Niggas would knock you out, dude.
But in the song, it don't even matter.
Don't matter.
See me at 6'1.
Way about that.
Halloween to Queen's Day.
98 Live.
No we play.
Make it seem easy.
So tell a friend that's a friend.
Champagne enough.
This might be the best arranged lineup in a posse cut.
Yeah.
Not bad at that.
They smoked who went first, second, third, fourth, and fifth.
They absolutely smoked that.
Anyway, back to trash and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, now when we go back to the back of the club, give him a little bit.
We go back to the back of the club, you know what I mean?
You can really hear it, you know what I mean?
The choke chain tighter, the close ring sniper, the dope game lifer, her throat game nicer, the propane lighter, money old like Biden.
I walk around like King Tuck.
Got it out in her.
I cleaned up.
I'm bleeded up.
Shirt off, bitch.
I'm inked up.
Don't bring once.
The pink punch, she drinks nuts.
She eat dick.
I bring lunch.
Say she about that action.
I'ma fuck her till she screamed curved.
Wait, hold on, okay, wait.
That was fire, but not the beat.
The verse?
What he was saying was hot.
The verse is a fire.
And he did say it was hot.
But that, what, what, that, was that an Ada Wake that came in?
What the fuck?
Who put that in there?
This sounds like, so far in the project, this sounds like somebody that went to jail, came home from doing 30, wrote constantly, and came out to place these verses.
This is like
this is
so so wait though.
If he's doing elite rapping and then just the arrangements of the beat, we can't take anything away from him.
Yes, we can.
You absolutely can't.
It all falls on the rapper.
If your publicist does a bad job, it falls on the rapper.
If the A ⁇ R does a bad job, if the producer does a bad job, if the marketing team, if the video is whack, if the director sucked, if your team is trash, it all falls on the rapper.
That rapping, though, gave me hope.
nope nope nobody said yo nas pick bad beats because his a r just
they said nas picks bad beats it always falls on the rapper
that form yeah i thought it wasn't fear yeah it's a little unfair that form of rapping though how he sounds gives me hope that he can put out great music and still potential it's not he i don't feel that it's over by hearing him rap like that it's not like damn it's over when you hit some other guy
so he still he still gives me hope like okay i'm gonna go back i'm gonna hear joe podcast I'm going to read the comments, and I'm going to show them.
That's what that gives me.
Don't find him.
Well, that's why podcasting is great because we get to hear you guys' review in real time.
So it's cool that you feel like that after track eight.
Yo,
all of the stuff that we've played.
I know we are.
We are, but that was.
He's trying to have all the grace for an icon, a legend, and a great.
So.
Can you play the bad shit then, Joe?
Well,
it just keeps going.
Can you play the bad shit, Joe?
So you can.
So here's the thing, Chliss.
And I'm not trying to convince you that it's bad.
No, no, I value what you say, but I just want to hear, like, yeah.
But look, you're saying the bad shit, right?
Like, again,
he don't.
Wayne can rap, rap.
We know that.
There's no question, no debate.
But if you're rapping at a high level and the beat is still bad, it makes for a bad song.
It makes for a bad listening.
And another thing is...
It ain't even just the beats.
You could tell he can't make a hook no more.
Okay.
Or he just needed help.
Or he had a lot of help.
Your team.
Your team.
That goes back to team.
It ain't a bunch of good hooks on here either.
No.
Sorry.
I mean, but bono and jelly roll.
It's not like it's fucking
people that can't make hooks.
Go back to his discography.
Go back to some of his out where his hooks were either features.
Or samples.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He ain't been hooked man.
Does this sound rushed to you guys?
Not like no.
Rushed or like lazy.
I don't think it's lazy.
I don't think it's lazy.
I think it's just bad production.
A and R, essentially.
I think there's a, because I see your point.
There's a huge dip in quality from Go DJ and Miss Officer choruses where you could tell there's help or the sample or even when the beat just goes something you forgot
all the sample a millie even
to what is happening on this project.
There's a huge dip in quality.
And again, that goes,
if you skimmed it on the beats and you skimmed it on the producer, then how could you rely on your vocal sample to carry the chorus?
If we have a problem with the beat, how could you rely on
no vocals and letting your beat rock and that being your chorus?
If the beat is black, it's not going to be a pleasant listener.
That's it.
And the other thing is, these records are too long.
And I hate that.
The album is too long.
But look at the list.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I thought we we wanted a long album when they're good.
No, I want it when they're good.
I want him to stop.
I don't.
I want him to stop.
I see you're trying to be respectful.
And I see.
I see it and I'm watching you.
Like, I wouldn't be mad at you.
I told these two niggas months ago
when they told me Wayne was in his prime or whatever variation.
I remember we had the conversation.
Yeah, we didn't say.
Yeah.
But whatever variation.
You're right.
You're right.
They sampled this.
When you're on a holiday,
you can't find
words to say
all the things that come to you.
What?
How did that get allowed?
Who allowed me to do that?
Like, there's nobody checking it out.
Well, maybe he wants that to end up on the pop charts.
No.
You don't, if you didn't have money for beats, you don't have money for pop charts.
Yeah.
You think Wayne is relying on legacy at this point?
Like, like, my name alone is enough to get it done?
I think that Wayne,
much much like M and maybe, I don't know, a bunch of other Martians like this,
love
rap so much.
I think that he just love rap and is going to rap.
I agree.
No matter what.
And I will throw in the caveat.
I think both of those gentlemen specifically that you're mentioning, Em and Wayne, don't leave the house.
Yeah, they just want to rap, yo.
Like, you have to go live like a human being in order to make something that human beings are going to be.
Play with words and and similes and forwards and entendres.
Who cares about the hook, really?
You can't compare them because, at least with M,
M's last two projects were great.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He still makes a good project.
He's making, but he'll produce.
You get what I'm saying?
He has a team that he gets with.
That's what I'm saying.
So I don't even compare the two.
It sounds like Wayne is just rapping whatever you want.
Whatever beat you put on, I got it.
I got it.
I can rap.
Wayne doesn't need to go and just.
You think it's a money thing?
do that.
I can't do that.
I'm not going to do that.
Freeze, is this self-inflicted, right?
Is this a self-inflicted wound, meaning that is he intentionally avoiding going around a team?
Didn't Wayne sell his pose?
I'm sorry, Flip.
Didn't Wayne sell his own?
100 million.
He sold him.
Yeah, so he sold him.
I thought he got bread back
from
over there.
I think Lil Wayne should have a lot of money.
I think that he's got a lot of money.
Especially if he got rid of all the people that was taking some of the money.
I don't think he's really bad.
Okay, so, all right.
So the reason why he's by himself is because people were robbing him.
I don't know that.
I don't know that business.
And to be clear, if you got Big Ex Pug who's hot right now, you got Jelly Roll, you got Big Sean, you got Bono, you got fucking Clef and the opera dude.
Like, this wasn't the cheapest of albums.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of this comes on favor and strength.
I was about to say, yeah, I don't know.
Him, but still, Bono, I don't know if Bono is just like.
Yeah, I'll give you a joint.
Nah, I disagree.
Nigga, we ain't Skip Bayless out there.
Yeah, I don't know.
He definitely rolled over, skateboarded over to Bono's.
Yeah.
maybe.
You left Skip Bayless out there.
And I think Bono is at a point where I don't got to do it for no money.
I'm doing it because I fuck with you or because I think
I'm a fan of yours.
I think that you're taking hip-hop ethics and mentality and applying them to generational pop stars that maybe Bono would feel that way, but I don't know that whoever runs Bono's business feels that way.
If y'all wanted Bono and he was charging you more than was in your budget, but you had it personally, would you pay for it personally?
If the record was absolutely fire, yeah.
In this case,
this record?
No, I would not pay a dime for this record.
I would say Bono, thank you, but no, thank you.
Not for that record.
Also, if Bono sent over something that wasn't heat, would you tell Bono to
your big dog?
Hey, Bono, why don't you let me come?
I'm gonna fly up to you and let's let's work on this.
It's a good start.
It's a good start, Bono.
I'm not telling Bono that.
I'm pussy.
Oh, nah.
It's a good start, Bono.
I'm gonna come.
I'm gonna come with you.
Help Bono get there.
I've been in the studio with Nick, did some trash shit, and we just nodded our heads, all of me webbing it.
Like, hey, all right, thanks, yo.
Yo, you came through, you laced us.
That's what it sounds like.
Coming out the bigs,
yo, the bigs, anyway.
Parks, can you play a little bit of the bono one?
I don't want to, but just a second.
Look what you want to hear.
I want to hear how bad it is that Parks really doesn't like to play it.
You might actually like it.
She might cry.
I do cry for everything.
These are the days.
I don't hate it though.
I don't even like what they did to Bono's voice on here.
Like, why is that?
He doesn't sound Bono yet.
They don't sound Bono-y at all.
They're like, cranked a tune up on Bono.
They couldn't afford Bono Engineer.
I'm sure not.
That's no, this is some hip-hop rap nigga touching Bono vocals.
I'm surprised.
So if Bono heard it, he approved that?
Bono's like 60, 70 hours.
I'm about to say, can Bono still hear things?
We don't know nothing about it.
According to this, no.
He might have been us some, oh, that sounds like some cool hip-hop shit.
Yeah, go ahead.
You know what I mean?
It sounds like Wayne said to Bono, yo, do you write?
Like, I think me and you could just pin this.
Pin this.
it's just no writers.
Jazzy just said the rappers need songwriters, right?
Yeah, and I agree.
I feel like they might have taken Bono's vocal off of fucking him and Edge on the guitar and put that shit over a beat and was like, nah, that works.
Featuring.
Yeah.
I don't think Bono was getting busy over this production, but I could be wrong.
This don't sound like a beat Bono is going to be in the studio picking.
If I'm Wayne, I'm on the first thing to Canada.
Y'all sit here, baby.
Y'all sitting here being cute.
You know, Rollins.
But it's cute six your niggas is on.
Hey, and that works.
If I'm Who Easy F,
I'm headed to fucking Toronto, nigga.
Next stop.
Me and this boy.
Look, next stop.
We got to sit down.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Lil Mama.
Pull him right up to Queen.
Let's go.
Lil Mama.
It's time again, y'all.
I can't be left to my own devices in the studio coming up with this.
I'm starting a group chat again.
And I hate to start with it.
Every nick.
It would benefit every party in the world.
Yeah.
Well, that's where right now?
That's where podcast theories can really get fun.
Niggas lit this summer up.
I at least would like him to just say, hey, man,
just let's do one together.
Yo, I would rather him go.
Yeah, a whole joint.
Go get Andre's fucking piano book bag and just walk around, man.
This is over, dog.
It's not.
You know, it's not.
It is over.
I disagree.
Enough of this hot shit y'all been giving me.
What I take.
It is a rap.
Where I'm at with Wayne.
We have to take the L today a little bit.
No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying
where I'm at with Wayne is, after this project, is two things.
And one is outside of just Wayne.
It's a hip-hop thing.
But Carter 5 was ass.
What the fuck is going on?
Carter 4 wasn't the greatest.
I know.
Carter 4 was fire.
I'm not doing that.
And personally, I like this better than Carter 5.
But I'm cool with Wayne just giving me features at this point.
That part.
So you agree?
Because somebody else is doing
the beats.
Let me ask what I mean when I say he should sit down for a second.
I ain't going to do that neither.
He sat down for a second.
I ain't going to do that because I heard the level of rapping that he rapping at.
I just think that, like y'all saying, he need to go get with the team.
I don't see how Drake is not a feature on this project.
It might be something personal, but I don't see how Drake or Nikki
conspiracy theories.
Drake or Nikki is not a feature.
I'm doing that on this project.
They're not like us on the stage with you.
He did that shit to act like he didn't know what it was about.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's the thing.
You gotta go get Nikki.
If I'm Drake,
and I see the phone, and it's Wayne.
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
You have to answer the phone.
Yeah, I ain't.
You have to answer the phone.
We don't even know.
You got to?
You have to answer the phone.
Not if you want to stay drawn.
I don't give a fuck.
You saw that nigga?
Who are you talking?
Look,
we have a conversation to have, but you got to answer the phone.
Not really.
Ish, what are you talking about?
You got to answer the phone.
Some of your OGs.
You know, what?
Obligation.
Some of your OGs.
What conversation is there that you have?
You obligated?
He owes it to himself.
Some of your OGs got to be sat down, bro.
And that's why you got a conversation.
Some of your OGs get out of hand and get a bunch of people.
They're suing the building that you let jerk you around.
I don't have time for the hoot and annie.
Nah, that's not true.
We got to
have a personal relationship.
Never that.
What if we don't know?
Not right now.
What if we don't go?
I don't agree with that.
Not right now.
I'm going to hit.
No, no, no, I'm just going to change it.
I'm just asking.
All right, so hold up, Freeze.
Since you're with him, y'all play it out for me.
Maybe I'm being closed-minded.
He answers:
Role play.
Yeah, please.
You can be who you want to be.
It don't matter.
All right.
It's your idea.
So you be Drake.
Okay.
No, no, you be Wayne.
You be Wayne, since it's your idea.
And you be Drake.
Yeah.
I think it's better if it's the other way around.
All right, so then you be Drake.
I know you Drake, Drake.
Yo.
Yo, listen, man.
How you doing?
Oh, no.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop.
Don't step on it.
Don't step on it.
I'm not stepping up.
Now.
Have two seconds for.
Hey, we ain't got to step up.
If you get straight to it, then if it comes over.
I agree.
I agree.
Go ahead.
Shut up.
This came off a way too, though.
Yeah, this is not.
I know, though.
What's up, what's up?
How you doing?
We ain't cool like that.
You call me, yo, what's good, man?
What's up?
What do you want, nigga?
Hey, yo, you know, it's time for us to get back in the studio, man.
What you doing, man?
I need you, man.
We're going to get back together like the old days, man.
Bedrock.
You fucking
bedrock.
I said, bedrock.
Let me, you be one.
Let me be one.
You fucking bitch it up.
Let me get you.
I don't know that good, Cush.
I need that.
Yeah, yeah.
I need that.
No, no, no.
Come on, Drew.
All right, cool.
It's going to be one.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You?
Yeah, what's good with you?
What you mean?
Long time.
how's Lil Man?
Yeah, boy, what's up?
What are we doing?
You know what's going on?
Yo,
starting a new project.
I think it'll be valuable if both of us could get together in the studio again.
I hollered at Nikki already.
I hollered at Khaled already.
I think we got some magic that we could potentially get together and make
you know we're not.
Let me try this.
Let me try this another way for you, gentlemen.
When is the last time y'all have spoken
an artist?
I know you smoked the one recently.
Artists.
And you probably have too.
So
I don't have a relationship.
Hold on, wait, wait.
Unless they're in the midst of doing something on a project, they're very rushy.
But when there's downtime, you call niggas have conversations.
You can ask him about your family first.
Niggas have conversations in a long time.
He might have to drive straight to Jay Prince's house.
He might have to skip a street.
He might have to talk.
So we, hold on.
He got to go a different way.
Wait, hold on.
Are we sure that there's internal conflict between them two?
No.
No, we don't know anything.
No,
Because it's lucrative.
But when you talk, nigga, a lot of shit be hitting the head on the nail, niggas.
I don't know what you.
You be throwing shit out there, and they be coming out of the shit.
No, no, if I throw the real shit that I think out there, it wouldn't be a pod.
It would be total chaos out there.
If I just try to hint around the shit, I'd be like, Yeah, but your hints.
I can't say what I think.
Your hints be hitting on the nose.
What I think is that phone gonna definitely be hitting
me all crazy.
But how you gonna say that when Drake and how you gonna say that?
Listen,
when we found out that
Drake and Kendrick may have had that conversation.
How are we going to say that when we found out that Drake and Kendrick may have had a conversation before all those records came out?
So?
What I'm saying is that we wouldn't think that after how crazy it got.
I wouldn't think that.
I would.
That niggas made a call.
I wouldn't think that.
Oh, I would.
I would.
I think that's part of why shit got crazy.
No, because if I make a call to you.
If you make a call and then you do the thing that we don't discuss on the phone, now it's...
Okay.
Okay, you make some sucker shit.
I think that's why.
Okay.
And we shouldn't make this about Drake.
I got you.
If I were Wayne.
I got you.
Man.
I would go get the whole team.
And we still ain't playing all of the time.
I want Tiger.
You got Tiger.
Give me a little dose.
Go find Gunner Gunner.
That's my marlum.
He would have.
He with him?
He would have.
I don't know if Tiger has him.
Tiger's on tour with him.
He got Tiger opening the tour.
Okay, so now, all right.
so who can make a song?
Tiger has to make me a batch.
Tiger makes songs, bro.
Tiger will have to make me a batch or something.
No, I'm going to.
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on, stop.
I'm going to say, I'm going.
No, no, no, no, no.
Let's pause that conversation.
Stop.
Yeah, go.
Go.
That's all you need to really know.
Yes.
What up, dope?
All my niggas cut throat.
Cut a nigga head off.
He looking like you.
I black double Dutch.
All you niggas do.
You got
All my niggas up, though, bands on, bands in my bag.
I love me in memory, but I can't remember her though.
All my bitches butt, broke, monkey on the back like Michael Jackson and bubbles.
Monkey on the track, and I'ma go dumb boat.
Gabon go up, oh, elephant in the room, but I can't fit out the jungle.
Oh, I thought that was somebody screaming.
That's an elephant
praying.
Oh,
that was the elephant, yeah.
Lynn Manuel
Miranda.
Miranda, yeah.
He's the elephant in the song.
He produced it.
He produced it.
It sounds like it.
That sounds like something from fucking Hamilton.
Wow.
This one I knew.
This one I said, okay.
Oh, no.
This kingdom car is still going down.
No, but this one I knew, though.
Oh, yeah, this ain't it.
I would like to see Wayne go out like three stacks.
As opposed to this, I would take it.
I would take the flute Wayne album over this.
Quartar and Harmonica.
Mockazoo.
Niggas say, you could learn.
Or I would like to see him do a Jim Jones.
Like,
step back and just be like the mentor to the youth that's just popping up on a Rob 49 record.
Wait, timeout.
Jim Jones is still dropping records all the time.
Maybe they're good.
They'd be fired.
Yeah.
Well, because Jim could pick a beat.
Yeah.
So it don't even matter what he's really doing on there.
And he did improve his rapping.
Yep.
And he's going to the heat makers.
He's going to
the person that brought him in.
Like, that's why I said Manny Fresh.
Like, go to the forest.
And that's the problem with this Wayne.
We shouldn't be having a Jim Jones.
We shouldn't be able to get to Jim Jones in a Wayne talk.
Yeah.
Respectfully.
Yeah.
Like, he's just bringing himself
never to me because I was there for it.
Like, I know what time it is with this man if he gets angry enough and the situation is right.
But
he could always rap.
Nobody could knock.
We not even knock.
It's not about the rapping ability on here.
No, not at all.
It's just really bad production.
Really bad.
Bad arrangement.
Bad production shit.
After that, I don't know how much worse I can get.
Oh, it gets worse.
Not than that.
That is the worst record on it.
It gets worse.
That's the worst record about me.
I love it when she wake up and I'm still behind her.
Got my pillows full of makeup.
I ain't mad, but kinda.
She be playing mind games and I'm a masterminder.
I'm a sucker for love, but I ain't pacify her.
But I can't deny her, I'm a man on fire.
She's a man eater, and I was just an advertiser.
But if she get out of hand, like she's a little bit of a fancy,
my pants on fire.
But if I play guitar, the way you play games with my heart, I play you a fucking song.
So clap them hands that rub me wrong.
I got you.
I feel all of this shit is from the How to Love session.
Yeah, this is
that era where he got into his I Wanna Be a
singer.
Yeah,
yeah,
it was over after the elephant, but there's still some fire on here, though
yo stop,
stop, no, no, no, gotta let it blitz.
Oh, nah, y'all wildin'.
No,
all right, yo.
What's Wayne's real name?
Dwayne.
Dwayne Carter, yo.
No.
We knew him as Wayo.
No.
Don't?
No.
No.
He first came on the scene in 1990.
What year was that?
With the Hot Boys camp.
Seven, seven, seven.
Seven or eight.
No.
No.
All right, let me just let the chorus go then.
Absolutely not.
flick
I don't agree either either because he's still rapping at a high
caliber
I was there for lollipop man
I was there for the mixtape run.
This shit we getting now.
Oh, I wish I could burn this on a disc
so I could roll my window down.
Feel a cool breeze on a summer day.
Keep your memory alive
like all
me should.
We're gonna get right back to you, man.
A lifetime of memory.
How you think I'm being too hard on him?
Yes.
Pause?
Yes.
It's not a good project, let's be clear, but
it ain't like he can't rap no more.
That's why I think you're being too hard on him.
Oh, he can still rap.
He can still rap.
Yo, y'all sound like a broken record with this rap shit.
Okay, you can rap.
Now what?
Go get
with the right team.
That's it.
If this Wayne rapping this way gets with the right team, he can still make good music.
That's why it's not over.
This video was crazy.
There's a video for that song?
Yes.
Yes.
Classify song?
No, no, no,
no, no.
By DRA.
No, no.
You better not shoot.
No, I don't want no videos.
No, that's not true.
There's some songs on here.
I like the two chains record.
I do the two channels.
I I like the
Can we hear it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll play the change record.
Yeah, then the song.
Also, songs a little big explode.
Yes, I'll get
White cheese talking maspreada.
White girl talking aguilera.
White girl call it consumer.
All cooked, no doctor.
Two chains cleaned them up.
Chains cleaned them up, though.
He did it.
He did.
With the slow, lazy flow.
Yeah.
Shout out to Wayne, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Like I said,
and he announced the tour.
Yeah.
He announced the tour.
He's going on tour.
That's what's up.
That should be a tour.
He should just.
He got Big X.
He got
Tiger, No Cap, and Belly Gang Cushington as his openers for the tour.
Not Big X.
Okay.
And you're going, right?
Well, the show I'm going to is just Wayne.
This is.
Oh, no openers.
No, no openers.
It's
soon?
The show?
Yes.
Tonight.
Today.
Oh, oh, you're going to get some live elephants.
No, no.
You're going to get the elephants.
No, no elephants, man.
No elephants.
I hope not.
He's definitely going to do some of the songs.
Yeah.
He has to.
And the fuck he ain't.
No, he's not.
Are you crazy?
What?
A new album just dropped.
No, it didn't.
It didn't drop?
No, it didn't.
He got stuck.
He is not going to ignore.
I don't think he's going to do that.
He might do one or something, but I don't think it's going to be...
I don't think he'll do the whole album.
He does at least three.
I'll take that.
Oh, okay.
So the masses are shitting on him now.
Yes, it's bad.
It's bad.
His masses are shitting on quite a few people, some of whom I'm friendly with.
They should shit on a few people.
Yeah.
I see somebody else
having a rough morning.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to get to it.
Oh, okay.
You know.
But you know what time it is, right?
What time is that?
I'm trying to remember what the fuck I was about to say.
What were we just talking about?
Waiting tour.
I don't remember now.
It left me.
All right.
You know what time it is.
You know what time it is?
Come on.
Tag Team back again.
Now it's time for our favorite part of the show.
Prize pace.
Come in.
All right.
First of all, I want to shout out the entire company.
It showed you a little time, huh?
I saw you.
First things first.
Yo, it's crazy.
Listen, let me tell you.
Had a slice, huh?
One day, I'm going to just come in here and cry.
Listen,
it's a nice little office they got up there.
I went up there peeking around at the moldings.
It's a telltale.
The moldings indoors will tell you something.
Yeah, and looked at
some of their balcony plans out there in Prize Bigs.
Real good time.
They had a watch party for game one.
Nice.
Got to meet a lot of people at the company.
They had a lot of company.
Okay.
Yeah, they had
the company party.
Berry Atlanta.
You're at the company party.
Yeah, I guess you could say that.
I guess I did go to the company party.
Look at me.
Look at me.
A good employee.
Old Joe would never.
Yes, they would.
Yes, he would.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Old Joe wouldn't have been, wouldn't have had the opportunity.
Crazy.
Hey, opportunity being there is halfway.
You got to
get through the door.
We had had a real good time over there.
I didn't stay for the whole game.
I didn't stay for the whole game, but I handed my phone to Ian and Poe so they could lace me on the prize picks tip.
Also,
I won a couple dollars.
Now I put in for a lot of like when I opened it, you're like, hey, play a thousand, win $50,000.
I didn't hit.
Of course.
But I did win a little three-grand light.
Three to one.
I won enough to make me inquire about when they would be returning to New Jersey.
Because I have a better, I've gained an understanding.
It's not as hard as you think, right?
I've gained the proper understanding
for prize picks and how it functions.
Sure.
Like I knew before, but.
But seeing it is a little different.
During a game
is different.
Like anytime niggas ran to Nashville or anywhere where prize picks was available, it went crazy.
But I wasn't ever doing it during a game.
Yeah.
boy, anxiety, the rush, all that shit.
Yeah,
the impulse pick.
Yeah,
the
ebbs and flow of the game when it's up.
When it's
second half, fourth quarter, oh my Jesus, Mary and Joseph, man.
That's just one game.
Now, imagine when it's you got players about four different games going.
No, I understand.
I've gained understanding.
Good.
And boy, let me tell you,
when it returns,
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Let's go.
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That's a good pick.
Caruso for more than 15 points, rebounds, and assists.
Okay.
And Jalen Williams for more than two, three-pointers.
I might switch Caruso and Jason Williams.
Maybe give Caruso three pointers and whatever.
He might not have that.
Oh, got it.
See what I'm saying?
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Please run y'all's game.
Run it around.
Y'all run it up for him.
Run it up for him.
Run your
hands.
WNBA, the Stanley Cup.
Let me tell you something.
I've been home.
Baseball ain't no joke, too.
Baseball.
Yo,
I told y'all baseball was my baseball.
Yo, Stream Farm.
Both phones.
Download the app.
I've been been home watching
Connor McDavid highlights
of the
Edmonton Oilers.
Okay.
Hockey shit.
Yeah, apparently he's like the best player in hockey.
Okay.
So they say.
I didn't know.
I don't watch hockey.
He looks like Kyrie Irving.
What up?
What up?
What a stick?
Stick on ice.
Really?
That's what it looks like.
He black?
No.
No, his name's Connor.
He's not black.
I'm just waiting for a black person to come to hockey.
He looks like.
it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A real Kyrie on skates.
He looks like art on ice.
Like, you could just watch him.
It don't matter if he.
I don't see how he's doing that shit on them shits.
With a stick and a blue puck.
Four dudes around him.
That nigga do some shit.
He did some shit.
He hit the puck between his legs behind him.
That's a black shit.
That's a black shit.
Bomb.
It's like, yo, dog.
Who the fuck is he?
That's a black shit.
So I'm rooting for them now.
Like a groupie.
I'm such a groupie.
That's why I don't get mad with bitches as groupies.
Me too, bitch.
I don't care.
You stupid.
Anyway, listen, Wayne, stop.
That's what I got.
Please.
I say that with all the respect that you could possibly have for
who he is and who he's been and what he's meant for us and the people that he's raised out there, the classics he's given us.
Like, Wayne is Wayne.
I just hate to see our legends.
I'd just say, go get with some good producers, Wayne.
Stop naming these shits Carters.
That too.
That too.
Yeah.
That's really, because you're pulling from equity of classics.
And a lot of people do that.
I think Wayne thinks he could just soar off of his name and it being a Carter that people are just going to run and accept it.
And don't say nothing that rhymes with Kendrick either.
Not if you want to have that phone call.
Don't say nothing that could even be mistaken for that.
I seen that little act stream when he was like, oh,
buddy, buddy.
But I think that was off the fake track list.
Buddy,
you did the right thing.
You did the right thing.
That'd have been a shish kebab.
Y'all can get quiet.
I don't give a fuck.
I get picked up.
I'm trying to see where you're going.
That would have been an absolute shish kebab.
Oh, absolutely.
That nigga would have been just collecting young money stones out here.
That would have been real bad.
Y'all tried to soup that up before.
Y'all tried.
Y'all fans out of y'all ain't shit.
Y'all tried it.
Anyway, shout out to Wayne.
Shout out to him.
If I was Kendrick, I'd have went and had a drink after that album dropped.
Like, I'd have went.
I don't even know if Kendrick drank.
Then went to the local pub.
I'd have had to give me a little lemon drop.
Hey, he looks like.
Hey, give me three lemon lemon drops.
Let's really get loose.
Damn.
Mel, what'd you order last night?
Have you had a lemon drop before?
Have I had a lemon drop?
No.
You've never had a lemon drop before?
Why not?
He got dick.
Plenty of men order lemon drops.
Do they?
Yeah.
Yes.
As a shot.
What is that yes?
Yes.
Yes.
Raspberry lemon drops.
Lemon drops wasn't a thing when I was drinking.
Lemon drop shots was a thing when I was drinking.
Yeah, yeah, they were a thing.
But now they're just a drink.
That's a drink.
What did lemon drop do to you, freeze?
Don't do that.
Just ask.
I'm not trying to get them loose.
It makes you feel a little loosey, huh?
No, but you tell us.
Ooh, the rise?
You get a little rise from the rise.
Tell us what to do to you, freeze.
No, it's just, it's a good drink.
Open up your pores, huh?
Open up your pores.
Nice little martini, man.
Did they not?
It's an aphrodisiac.
Do you actually get it in the martini glass?
Yeah.
You pinky up?
Okay.
Yeah.
He'd be like, shadow clock, sugar on the rim.
You got a
cherry in it?
Oh, that's it.
Such a bitch.
A sugar rim is a bit of a drink.
You keep talking and it get worse.
It get worse.
It gets worse on the rim.
You are a sugar rim.
And that's dude.
Yeah.
Sugar rim.
And the waiter look at you and ask, too.
Sugar.
Drink sugar or song.
No, there's no salt on the rim.
You tell him.
No, song.
It's either it's a naked.
What you had last night?
It's either a naked rim or it's a sugar rim with a lemon drop.
What you had had last night to drink Mel?
I had a flight of wine.
You drew me eating away from.
Oh.
You too.
Oh, you just had a bunch of wine?
Yes.
There was a somalier there, and he paired all of the courses with.
Somalians.
Oh, shit.
A sommalier.
Oh.
And he paired all of the courses with wines.
What did you get drunk?
A little bit.
Regeroy.
I got it.
Mel is that date.
I just want to ask, Ish, why are you making that?
If Mel got drunk,
14 courses and a pair of wine.
A pint of wine.
You ask if Mel got drunk.
Mel was drunk.
Yeah, but it's more questions, but I'm not sure.
Mel gets drunk here.
Nigga, Mel could get drunk off here for rent.
I'm a
referral to the HR tag.
I'm going to refer to the HR.
Drunk as hell up here.
Question the culture.
She wants to
talk about it.
Hey, you motherfuckers.
You know what I did?
Smiley ass.
She's like smaller.
So the world.
You know, you contribute to how toxic the culture is.
Up here?
Yes.
Yes.
That's what I love Belle.
She don't do a fuck.
Bell kid.
You respect that, man.
She don't do a fuck.
So,
what do we got?
I have.
I know all of y'all walked away on the break, but we was talking about whether we was tough enough to delve right into the DDG shit.
And if we do, then we have to at least present the facts.
There were a lot of them is why I'm saying this.
It was a lot to keep up with if you weren't keeping up with it.
Did you just do an off-the-break expose?
You don't do that, nigga.
Hey, yo, we're getting ready to talk about the DDG and Hallie's situation was going on.
That's what that's how we, but I learned that from flipping that work.
Wait, we don't do it.
We don't do that no more.
We don't do that no more.
Too many pocket watches, nigga.
You gotta stop.
Yeah, Pepe's attackers.
But I'm good.
Bam.
No, but the year started again.
The quarterly.
Hey y'all pay your quarterly the year is June pay your fucking quarterly
My shit just got back to look looking okay
Nigga Ian said this nigga don't believe nothing I say, but I'm being serious
Them niggas came back for what they owed.
Did you spend this?
Them niggas started taxing niggas and all that with me?
Counting the water bottles.
Yeah, shit.
Yeah, you can't even leave, nigga.
All that leave and shit, yeah, they was encouraging me to leave so they could dox me.
Hey, y'all, Click.
Don't you got some fruit and network shit to do?
Get, boy, enjoy yourself.
It's all right.
You know, he ain't gonna say nothing.
Yeah, you know he ain't gonna say nothing.
You know, his stone face.
I told Stoneface.
You know I think you're full of shit.
I know that.
Oh, okay.
What's in your account right now?
What's in my bank account?
Yeah.
Which one?
What's in that main?
Oh.
The one that the chase card is attached to, nigga.
Not a lot.
You know the one.
Nothing crazy.
It's something in there.
Nothing crazy.
That's not the one.
You got the new Yankee colorway rock.
Stone motherfucker.
You about to play the rest of the city?
That's the one.
What card is attached to the motherfucking person?
Now you're asking the question.
How much is in that account?
No, for real.
That's my only question.
That's true, but what's in that account?
That's my only question.
He can't say crazy.
He can't say.
Take a guess off.
Well, crazy is relative.
Oh, true, true, true.
So it's us talking, Mike.
That definition of crazy.
Oh, it's six figures in there.
About 40.
Enough.
If you're $5 away.
Might be just about it.
You're about $9 short of six figures in there.
You said she was going to tell me?
It's not six.
It's healthy.
If it was six, I'll tell you what it was.
But But it's five.
It's five.
He made his last transfer.
Yeah, he transferred some funds.
They had to move something around a little bit.
We know.
We know.
When a nigga break his leg or something, all he got time to do is check on his bank accounts.
And figure out what ways to do it.
He's just home.
He's at home looking at shit or worrying.
I killed him in April.
Oh, you know what?
Put another colorway out.
That's the privileged niggas that can sit at home.
I couldn't sit at home.
I had to limp in here and put my boot up.
You make this shit sound like Harriet Tuckman in them.
Nah.
You make this shit.
You said nigga could sit at home and chill.
I couldn't sit at home.
I had to work.
I was on construction.
You were in New Jersey so you could be closer to home.
Oh, no, you did not, nigga.
No, you did not say you.
Are you fucking crazy?
You the gift that you're.
Are you fucking nuts?
But he's included in we all.
Did you guys?
It don't matter.
So what I'm saying is a fact.
No, it's not a fact.
It is a fact.
No, we move so you can be closing it just so happened to work out for everybody.
No, that's cap.
That part is cap.
That is a lie.
If you could have found some super fly shit, which you could have, for the same price, overlooking Long Island City and that beautiful water right there, that was an option for you.
You didn't move to New Jersey for us.
Who are you talking to?
Keep on.
What the fuck are they talking about?
If you could have moved to Manhattan.
I comprehend well.
You don't think that me, you, and Freeze, because this is from that era, living in Jersey, played any part in us
moving to the studio to Jersey.
I don't see that at all.
Parks had the luxury of being in his house for 39 years.
Fuck Parks.
Yeah, let's go to Jersey.
Let that nigga hop in the car and go to Jersey.
Then that's when we was stuck in it, third story.
You niggas wasn't always on time.
Yeah, let's move to Jersey.
Why wouldn't I do something great out the kindness of my heart?
Y'all try to paint it as a
lie.
That's the kindness of your heart.
That's why.
Look.
It's the kindness.
Hey, Jerry Adam.
Would you tell these niggas?
These niggas record in front of a black drape and a brick wall, nigga.
Hold up.
Y'all shut the fuck up now before I get hand.
These niggas record in front of fucking some hospice looking shit.
Look around, nigga.
Look.
Keep going.
It's convenience.
No, no, no.
No, he full of shit.
You think you took away the black drapes and the what was the picture?
Only dead men are free or something.
Fuck us.
You did that for for us.
Wait, us includes me.
I'm not saying y'all exclude all me.
Okay, you got me.
That ain't right going wrong.
Oh, y'all.
Oh, when I say us, y'all think I'm not.
No, first you said y'all.
Y'all think I'm not a part of that.
You said y'all saying y'all.
You said y'all first.
You're not a part of it.
You don't know us without y'all.
You didn't say us.
I didn't have to.
It's still true.
If I say to you, we moved to Jersey partly because of you.
How is that false?
We don't have to go be circular right now.
When did you say partly?
Never.
All right, so say partly.
That way it's bad.
We moved to Jersey because of you.
He's a slippery little son.
I think it's still applied.
Yeah.
A salaman.
Whose side you are?
Yo, what you call that little JFL?
Who's a salaman?
Because he won't fire at you.
You already scared him for his career to fire you.
I'm not that.
So pick a side.
I hear him.
I hear a room.
No, I'm talking shit.
Come on.
We're supposed to be being serious.
Oh, bullshit.
Are we?
I'm in a great mood.
I can tell.
I'm in a great mood.
I can tell when you start bullshitting.
I'm hearing sometimes.
We have to be.
We have to
do the DDG shit.
All right.
And it is
serious on air.
Once these mics stop, though.
So,
because I know the largest room I've ever been in is the room for growth,
I am going to pass this off
to Mark, who's on the phone.
Hey, Mark, the days you call out, boy.
So,
just distinguished cast.
We should review the facts objectively first and then insert our opinions.
That's all this goes, yeah.
Okay.
On the break, we struggled with the facts.
Because it's such a long time ago.
So, we brought in none other than we don't do facts here.
Yeah, that ain't our bad.
We're bad at facts.
Yeah.
I mean, it's that.
I really should make a hire for that, but it's sad that we're that.
I deal in feelings.
Fuck facts, man.
I want to get to how I feel about things.
All right.
Anyway, to help us along with facts,
none other than
Jeremy Hecht is in the field.
Let's go.
Jeremy Hecht.
My second or third favorite.
white boy in the in the content space.
Jeremy, how you feeling?
I feel good to be top three, not one, not two.
Number three in your white boy list.
Here we go.
Happy to have you here.
And thank you for throwing me into the most complex and difficult topic first to lay things out for you guys.
I appreciate that.
Well, no, that's not you.
I let you get a pass on the Wayne Top.
You did.
You did.
And you know my esteemed love for Wayne, so I appreciate that.
Exactly.
And now, here we are.
So,
facts.
Yeah, please.
All right.
Show us the facts, Jeremy.
Okay, so let's lay it out.
Pause.
October 3rd, 2024, public breakup.
They break up via Instagram, but but said that they would remain, quote, best friends.
A statement that didn't age incredibly well.
They're going back and forth on social media, but then things heat up, of course.
In March of 2025, DDG expresses that he's unable to see his son and that she's keeping Halo from him.
Then, Hallie Bailey granted restraining order.
This is May 13th, 2025.
She obtained a temporary restraining order against DDG alleging physical, emotional, and financial abuse, including an incident where she talked about and showed pictures of a chipped tooth and physical harm on her arms.
So that was said to be a dispute in the car over, you know, their son was in the car.
She showed pictures.
She obtained a restraining order.
May 2025, custody and visitation.
Bailey was granted temporary physical and legal custody of Halo.
She proposed supervised weekly visits for DDG.
I think it was like a few hours a week, and requested restrictions on him taking Halo outside of LA County.
Now, at the same time, she's going to film a movie in Italy, and she basically wants to take Halo for months at a time to Italy.
So, that's what she's proposing.
She's going to be in sole custody.
Then, DDG was silent about it.
He was on Streamer University with Kai.
We're not really sure how he feels.
June 4th and 5th, 2025, DDG filed a restraining order against Bailey, alleging that she actually posed a psychological risk to Halo.
He basically said she was unstable, she was unable to take care of a child.
She talked about, and then he provided text messages where it showcased her, you know, threatening her life, threatening suicide, threatening that her son wasn't going to be around to see things.
It was all kind of manic.
And in those texts, she also accused DDG of sleeping with someone in Mexico.
Lala.
With Lala, yes, fellow streamer.
Definitely hitting Lala.
In Mexico,
straight off my streamer university hype.
And you've been kind of.
And you've been distant.
You've been distant at worst.
I mean, at best.
Listen, gotta fuck Lala.
Anyway.
So Lala actually did.
She confirmed in her words that
it didn't happen until she said.
Oh, she held it down.
She held it downstream.
She held it down.
And that's where we're at right now.
They're still fucking.
Oh, yeah.
They don't want to fuck again.
Oh, they're going to fuck again.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But yeah, so that's where we're at right now.
And he wants to prevent her from traveling out the country with Halo.
Okay.
The nature of the text messages that DDG released were very disturbing.
They were.
And there was a lot of talk around
the cause of those texts being sent.
Was this postpartum
or was this a psycho girl?
Are there dates on the texts?
Let me find them.
March of 2024.
Okay.
Now,
do we have enough facts to get into our feelings about this?
I think that's a pretty good outline, right?
Pretty good outline.
That's a pretty good outline.
Thank you, Jeremy.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And feel free to stay for this in case you want to.
Chime in on this tough topic.
Okay, I'm here.
All right.
Flip, go to the kitchen on this tough topic.
Yo, this topic right here, Flip.
Go ahead, get out of here, man.
Don't worry about this.
No, it's Flip Go stand.
Oh, man.
I have no idea what anybody's take is regarding this, so I'd love to hear it.
I know, Mel.
I feel like
the only reason why we know any of this is because he is constantly online.
talking about it and it after the breakup being completely disparaging of her making his claims, et cetera, et cetera.
Also, when he went on, when he started talking about the fact that she was,
you know, preventing him from seeing Halo, he did this on his streaming platform with his millions of viewers,
creating like a hashtag freeHalo.
What does that do?
That encourages your audience to go to her.
and start bullying her without any of the facts other than the ones that you just presented, which are up for fucking debate.
Whoever's right, whoever's wrong, it really is, it's gotten so fucking messy, nobody even knows.
But
my stance is he has been, he seen, he comes off as being so fucking wildly stressful to deal with after you've just had a baby.
I'm just, I'm going to, I'm standing 10 toes down on Hallie's side.
I don't even have to have all the facts.
The fact of the matter is she had a baby.
She has a
doctor.
Yeah.
Plot twist with me.
Because that's just how I vote my life.
Yeah.
I just, I.
Some of your reasoning, maybe.
It all seems like messy shit to me.
It is very messy shit, but at the end of the day, you have a young girl who's trying to manage a career, manage a relationship, have a baby, and then, you know, there's debates on how long postpartum actually lasts, but it ain't six to fucking eight weeks.
It's a really long time for women to start feeling any semblance of fucking normalcy.
And she's in the public eye.
She has a baby daddy who's going to the fucking world to get his, to get a sense of validation or to get them to agree with him.
Like that is wildly stressful.
So maybe she did have a manic, you know, episode where she's saying a bunch of fucked up things in text.
Why is she being judged on her worst moments when she is in the most vulnerable fucking state?
And that is why I'm going to be on her side.
And also, he wants to, he wants to file a restraining order.
Child, she filed one first and was granted.
She don't want to be around you.
This is, hold on, this is the same motherfucker that went to her house, keeps going to her house unannounced, breaks into her house, takes a picture of her bed to let her know that he is inside your house and can get in your house whenever you want, and then rips out the camera systems.
How fucking safe does this girl feel?
Allegedly.
Okay,
allegedly.
One thing,
his order was, what he filed was so that she can't take the baby to Italy for that time.
Yeah, like not trying to be around her or keep her away from him.
It's just, I don't want you to take my son.
That's what he was filing.
There's a lot of situations, male, when you don't take the text message serious, that something ends up happening to the child.
We've seen that a lot of times, whether it's when it comes to domestic issues.
They say, oh, the signs were right there.
The signs were right there.
So him filing this restraining order based off of the text message that she's been sending him is a right move for him to do.
I'd like to challenge a few of the things that you said.
who male yeah uh
in terms of weaponizing a fan base
to bully you they're both doing that they both are doing it
i don't see how she's done it so we let you get a runway to get all of your shit off
let's have the conversation without us triggering one another Because I'm not trying to trigger nobody, and please don't trigger me.
And this topic could be triggering.
It's very triggering.
I've done been through every aspect of this.
The second that she left him, fan bases were weaponized.
Because you had the Disney girl, the Beyonce girl, the clean sister act girl fan base saying,
yo, dog, you lucked up.
She should have never been with you.
You was a bum.
You clout chasing.
Every chance you get, you mentioning a baby.
You mentioning her.
She don't want you.
That was a thing.
That was was a real thing.
I'm saying this as somebody.
Fam, it went on up here.
We got into an argument about DDG.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We did.
We got into an argument about DDG.
You took Chloe's side.
I mean, you took Haley's side.
We took DDG's side.
We got into an argument about DDG.
So it's not like he was the person that was throwing out the bully shit and she was just on the receiving end of that.
That's not true.
Both of their fan bases were weaponized.
She did not weaponize hers.
She couldn't stop.
let me say this one thing.
Just one thing.
And then y'all got it.
Hijacked the topic.
Holy shit.
You're going to hijack me.
How many times did they hijack dog piled on me?
One thing.
So I just want one to say this one thing.
Go ahead.
She did not weaponize her fan base.
And furthermore, everybody's saying that he's a clown.
Stay away from
him.
Blah, blah, blah.
She didn't listen.
She followed her own heart.
That was the man she wanted.
She chose.
She had a baby with him.
She did not listen to anybody.
So she did not weaponize her fan base.
They made their own assumptions.
He went on streaming to.
Now you're off an attention.
Can you not respond to each point that we're about to make the same way we did with you?
That's all I'm asking.
I have more of your points that I like.
Even with that weaponization point,
the artists sometimes don't have to say, skip it.
Go do it.
They don't have to do that.
If nothing else, we've proven that both of them played part in the weaponization of fan bases.
One.
Two,
in terms of things being made public and why they are made public, they're playing courthouse games.
True indeed.
Courthouse games is not only where things become public, but it's where both parties go to say the worst of the worst about the other.
So unfortunately, these stories, the break-in stories, they're public because they're court filings.
Three,
she played her hand in some of this being public when she vehemently was against the kid going to Constantinette's house
and put that out.
And she put it out.
So all I'm saying is, at the start, you have two young people that are engaging in the messiness of a breakup after a baby.
That's fair.
Like, my thing,
and I'm not on anybody's side.
Again, I think the child is the
real recipient of
the negativity.
But
I don't understand, to Joe's point, how you could say, yo, I don't want my kid around Casanai or on a stream or anything of that sort, but you are electing to take my kid across to a whole different country outside of me.
I thought that's totally different.
I think that's very, very different.
I think that's different personally.
A lot of shit goes on on these streams.
It'd be girls.
It'd be a lot of shit going on on the streams.
Me take her taking a kid with with her to work in another just just happens to be in another country you don't know you got a nan you got whatever over there with you i'm not subjecting the kid to anything necessarily supposedly you don't know that's supposedly supposedly wait wait wait wait
you can't do that without my consent No, but I don't give a fuck if you got a nanny and you got the best conditions.
You cannot do that without my consent.
We know that as dad.
What I don't like to do is this.
Depending on how
the restraining order says that's not necessarily depending on what's set up.
The restraining order basically says she has soul custody.
So, if she wants to make that decision, she can do that.
I don't know that's true.
That is incorrect.
I don't know that to be true.
That is incorrect.
You are wrong.
Does she have so?
I don't know what that is.
You cannot do whatever you want just because you have soul custody.
That's incorrect.
I've been through it.
I know that y'all want to fucking, it's the erasure of father rights around here.
But you cannot take this baby.
No, you can't.
That's not true.
And my thing is this: and I hate that this point gets overlooked.
Fam, you had enough discernment to lay down and have a baby with this man, right?
We are electing this man to be the father of your child.
Can I pause you right there for a second and add to what you're saying?
Maybe messy, but it is being spoken about.
He convinced her to have the baby.
She said,
I'm having an abortion.
No, that's part of manipulation.
Listen, there's another side to this that paints her as being emotionally manipulative.
And I think that is what he filed in his court filings.
But, and I'm not even going to continue to speak to that.
I can speak to how a dad move when he wants the kid.
Yes.
That's what I can speak to.
Is there proof of her making that statement?
No.
It's not proof of someone.
It's not proof of a law.
I'm not a legend neither.
But we talk about alleging.
Well, I think that's a good idea.
Talk to our fact-checker, Jerry.
Yeah, well,
what I'm saying is.
You can fact-check that.
If there's any proof, written proof that she said she was going to have an abortion and he convinced her to have the baby.
Because if not, then that is just his word against hers and that is that's nasty.
You know what that is written proof of.
We can't do that though.
We can't do that.
We can't say it's written proof of this, but we don't have written proof of that.
And the things that we don't have written proof of this.
No, I'm just talking about text messages since he wanted to beat them out.
You didn't bring up written proof.
When he broke in the house and yadda, we don't have written proof of her.
We don't have
a picture of her bed.
So?
He could have took that picture nine years ago.
He let her know that I'm in your house.
I can take a picture of your, I'm taking a picture of your house.
You're doing that from a police report, Mel, is what we're saying.
But anyway, so Tommy, let us know when you like facts.
It doesn't seem like there's any public record of her saying that.
DDG said in an interview, we weren't aiming for a baby.
It kind of happened.
What are we going to do?
He said,
she always wanted to be a mom and I always wanted a kid.
So from there, we just made a decision to go through it.
I don't know.
If there's any public record of her saying that.
Bro,
the point I was making is something different.
The point I was making is, yo, the second that we elect to have a child, right?
Let's just say for all intents and purposes, it was agreed upon mutually.
I'm sure it was.
You now can't, when we break up, say, yo, that bitch is a bum mom.
I ain't never want to have a baby with her.
I don't want her to be alone with my kid.
You elected to have a child with this woman.
So that speaks to your judgment and your own discernment that you thought in that moment, she would have been a decent mom, and vice versa.
So if you have...
Somebody can't be wrong, though.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, but in the moment, you can have the confidence that this man is going to be a good dad.
So you are thinking that he's going to have your child's best interest at heart when he has your child.
And vice versa.
Young people don't think that like that.
Young people don't give it that much thought.
That's too many words or too many thoughts.
No, you're in the moment.
You like each other.
You can both want to have a baby.
You can decide to want to have a baby, but they're not thinking about, oh, I think he'll be the best father.
I think she'll be the best mother.
Nobody's thinking of it.
They don't know what having a baby means.
They don't know all the shit that changed.
The person that you're with right now ain't going to be the same person.
I think that's black.
You don't want to be like, yo, dog, she had my baby over here.
I don't want my baby over there, depending on if it's a harmful situation or not, of course, but yo, I don't want my baby around these people.
My nigga, that's not your choice to make.
And then vice versa on the woman's side, yo, I don't want my baby around her sister.
If they're not putting your kid in harm's way, my nigga, that's not your choice to make.
You laid down and had a baby with this woman, and you have to trust that the man and the woman are going to do appropriate things with your child in mind.
The only thing I'm familiar with when it comes to consent from both parents is when you're trying to take a child to get a passport.
Out of the country.
Yeah, if the man name is on the birth certificate, you cannot go and take the child to get a passport without the man.
You can't take the child out the country either.
The child has to sign to take the child.
I mean, the apartment.
The parent has to sign for you to take them out the country.
And not to interrupt, but just to clarify, in the court filing that DDG made,
it does say, so petitioner threatened me by demanding that we reconcile or she would go through with the abortion.
This was the the most troubling of her attempts to coercively control me.
So she DDG is claiming that she did that.
Again, it's a claim.
It's a claim.
It's a claim.
It's just a claim, though.
These text messages that he released, the disturbing ones,
if you believe that these are texts and not doctored and really happened,
they say a lot.
I mean, they do tell a story.
They do.
Y'all want me?
Should I read them?
Sure.
Thank you.
The trust is, this is a blurry version.
I'll try my best.
The trust issues are becoming overwhelming.
Maybe that's for the best.
I put in too much time and effort into making you happy to have to deal with the bullshit every day.
And in your eyes, you're never wrong.
It's frustrating, and I'm over it.
I'm no longer entertaining this argument.
I need to work on becoming more successful, like quote-unquote, Jay-Z, like you said.
Then maybe you'll take my vision of becoming a big label owner serious instead of shitting on my dreams every second you get.
She says, you don't want to be with me.
That's okay.
I will never beg anyone.
I will be successful.
I don't need to be with someone who was going to demean me.
You like that?
I'm insecure.
It makes you feel good about yourself.
I'm not doing this anymore.
Keep your phone on airplane mode.
But when I die, don't say shit.
See?
This is a lot of TMI.
This is, this is
two young people.
Being super manipulative to each other because their fucking feelings are involved and shit like that.
Like they're just, they're really, they're just being, they're fucking nasty to each other.
But who in this room doesn't know what that experience is like?
When you're at that point where you're mad at each other or where you think that the break is happening and one person is playing super fucking nonchalant, usually the guy, and the girl is like, you know, just spazzing out and shit like that.
That's all I hear from those text messages.
It sounds like both of them are doing both things.
Sure.
Both of them were playing nonchalant.
Both of them were were playing with each other.
I don't hear both of them.
Both of them are playing nonchalant.
Enough of y'all too now.
Not enough, but
I don't hear her playing nonchalant at all.
This is what I'm saying.
Not enough of you.
What I'm saying is this.
And again,
speaking from a little bit of experience, I don't know if you brothers have any experience here.
And if y'all do, I don't know why y'all are talking right now.
No, I want to hear your point because we're about to make one.
This is what I'm saying.
In the beef, where two people are wrong in playing a part,
there's the person that's playing along and whatever the beef is, and then there's somebody that's not playing at all.
There's somebody that is so angry or so emotional and so narrow-minded that they are not looking at the bigger picture here.
Once she says to him, I will die behind this, or whatever the fuck she said,
even if it's from whatever it's from, as a parent.
Yeah, now we you have taken this to another level, and I don't know if you are of enough health in mind, body, and spirit to take care of you and a child.
And nobody talks about that part of postpartum.
I'm not against y'all calling this behavior postpartum.
Y'all got all types of words.
Postpartum, stock home.
Let me ask you.
But postpartum, but postpartum is,
there's nothing to deny about postpartum.
Postpartum is what happens after you have a baby.
It is, there's postpartum depression.
There's postpartum psychiosis.
There is postpartum.
And there is like her, her hormone, like
it's stressful enough to have had a child, but when you enter into a
chaotic, erratic,
you know, situation with the person that is supposed to be loving on you and the kid and you're not going to be able to get away from yourself.
Can you care for a child with postpartum male?
I don't need the word suit.
You can care for a child, but you got to do everything that you possibly can to create as stress-free an environment as possible.
And it doesn't seem like this is what's happening.
In caring for the child, should you text anybody and say, I'm going to kill myself?
And if you do,
how do you think that person should respond?
That's my question.
In seeing that tweet, if I ever got that tweet,
you've never had a girl say that to you?
We're talking about, no, no, no.
I'm talking about...
Yes, someone that I have a child with.
Like, my baby mother has never gotten to that.
Had she did,
my immediate number one thing is: I gotta go get my kid.
Okay,
whether you're serious or not, I can't play with it.
And I totally understand that, but
if we're gonna be talking about you to me, I don't know what happened between you and your baby mama, if it was contentious or whatever, but you seem to be an extraordinarily even-keeled, logical person, you know.
So, I don't really, I don't know, but I don't really see you antagonizing your baby mama, especially after the kid has been born.
I just don't see see that happening with you.
That is what I see.
I don't matter in this situation, but this is how I am reading the situation.
He is incredibly antagonizing to a woman who has just had his child and they're playing these nasty little fucking games with each other.
But to me, she doesn't really want to play these games.
He releases the text messages just to get everybody on.
He's playing that game of trying to get out of here.
He's trying to get everybody on the bus.
But
I'm doing
that.
I'm trying to get the courts to understand what i'm doing when were these okay
let me ask you a question when were the text messages written versus when were they released because if there is a huge he dropped the text messages the the from what i the dates i looked at was uh march
march 2024 yeah well the text messages came out a couple days ago when he filed to keep her from leaving in defense after she released after she
yes can i ask you a question
does anybody know how old their child is he's he he's one at the most.
Yeah, cool.
Almost two.
Almost two?
I want to stay here.
I don't want to fight you.
I'm putting it out on the record that I don't want to fight.
I'm not going to let you do it.
So think about this.
Postpartum can last for a certain amount of time.
Right?
So you are clear in saying that postpartum is a real thing where you may or may not be in control of your hormones, your emotional state, your mental state, etc.
Yes?
In certain instances, yes.
Do you think it's a lie, though?
I know.
I'm not going to give an an answer.
So, to everybody in the room, we've heard that.
Postpartum means yes.
Yes,
you don't have control.
Thank you.
Because nobody has control over their hormones.
You can't control them.
I'm asking you.
You're right.
Mel, I'm asking you.
You're right.
She can't control hormones.
So if you are a dad and postpartum can last for the better part of a year, postpartum can last, they said, multiple years.
Yes.
So if this person is saying that I'm thinking about killing myself, i.e.
my child, whatever the case may be, then I don't give a fuck when the text messages came out.
If you're saying that the child is less than a year old or a year old, those text messages are still valid because she could still be under emotional, hormonal, and mental distress right now.
See,
my only issue with that, and I'm inserting myself here, Paul,
if I were to get that message, I'm not waiting
for March 9th
a year or so later.
That's not my point.
My point is, those
text messages still remain valid today if her emotional and mental state are still compromised today.
Yeah, but if you really felt that way, why are you waiting?
You know what he did?
I don't know what he did this.
I don't know that.
We're moving that.
I'm talking about no.
You know, if I'm him and she wrote me that text message, you know what I'm doing right in that moment?
I am calling whatever authority that I need to, and I am trying, I'm going to try my hardest to get a psychologist.
To get a psychological, to get a psychological.
Mel, mal, mal.
This is where I have to interrupt you.
Okay, go ahead.
I have to interrupt you with respect.
You can't say that you don't you have no idea of what you would do when this topic came up with me and my girl and and we were talking about the text
i said i mean i wasn't all the way serious
if i see that text i'm calling the police i said that same thing that you just said she reminded me i had already been i had been through this
and and i didn't call a couple didn't call the police at all i knew i went outside while we were on uh her birthday dinner and did my best to talk to
you I mean, like, you know, we can't just say, I'm going to call the police.
All that's radical shit, gay radical.
The seriousness of somebody when they texted is all on
the point.
And that's my point.
And of course, you know, we are totally armchair quarterback in this situation.
We're just opining on their fucking business because it's everywhere.
But to your point, you're right.
You don't know what you're going to do in this situation.
You can think in hindsight and say, I would be comfortable having a psychological evaluation done on her because I'm concerned for my child.
You would think that that's what somebody would think, but if they don't in the moment, then that's understandable too.
It's also understandable to think that she's just being hysterical in the moment, saying something to try to get a rise out of you because nothing else is going to be a matter of time.
But let me tell you for all of this.
Let me roll up potentially true.
As a man, there are a lot of steps.
and hurdles that you have to get to before you convince a judge or a court that a psych eval is needed for your child's mother.
It's not just as simple as you going in there and requesting one.
I feel like.
Because niggas go in court all the time and say, hey,
this lady.
But you know what they don't?
You know what they don't?
They don't have a whole list of text messages showing potentially.
Like erratic behaviors.
Yeah, yeah.
You just going in off word of mouth.
And yes, you got to prove a lot of that.
I feel like you're wrong.
I feel wrong about that.
I feel like it's dangerous
to, when you're talking about postpartum, it's dangerous to point the blame at the other person instead of finding solutions of how to deal with postpartum.
When Mel is telling the story or freeze, even you, you're saying that the environment has to be like this and be like that.
But there's really
limited to no solution in dealing with somebody with postpartum.
And I feel like it's very reckless to just, you know, put the blame on the person that's in that position.
as far as like creating an environment, a safe environment.
You mean the man or the woman?
Putting it on the man.
Okay.
Because there's no solution.
What Mel is saying or what Mel said is, yo, A, I see him antagonizing somebody who's dealing with postpartum.
Maybe he doesn't know how to deal with a person who's going through postpartum.
I watched this man online say how much, yo, please leave her alone.
We're not going there.
I'm not talking about her.
I still love her.
This and that, and the third.
I try to keep my distance, whatever she says, because I don't know what she's dealing with at this current moment, especially young people.
They don't know how to deal with it.
And they kids.
So to say that and like, oh, he's creating an environment like that.
What about the person with postpartum creating the environment as well?
How do we deal with that?
How does the person dealing with the person that's going through postpartum navigate in that system?
Hey, let me tell you: I'm gonna use myself.
Um,
there was a time when I thought my baby mother was suffering from postpartum depression.
I spoke about this back when we was in.
And I and I went to her and said, Hey, I know I'm not equipped to deal with this, I don't even know fully what it is.
Do you think we could talk to somebody?
I'll pay for it, whatever the case, let's find somebody.
Let's try to.
Because I ain't the right person.
I know that.
Whatever I could say is probably going to be wrong, might make it worse, but I see there is something happening here.
She told me no, she wasn't.
And we let it, it continued to get worse to the point that's when she wasn't.
What?
She wasn't somebody.
I was just about to say while you was talking, I thought you would end differently, but I'm like, damn, that's the blessing.
I went through that, and the person I was speaking to had no idea that that was postponement.
It was her her first kid.
She didn't know.
I'm coming to you to say, hey, is this that?
Because they warned us about it in the hospital.
Is there a way to help?
And if you say no, now we're just back to dealing with whatever comes with.
Exactly.
Or if you're a man and they say no, you sitting there like, oh, OR.
Can I suggest that?
Niggas are having children that you're not.
And then the side don't have postponement.
That's too.
Late 30s.
You're crazy.
That nigga's having
children.
You're having children in your late 30s.
You know how to deal with it.
You're more knowledgeable than somebody in their early 20s.
Much more tolerant, rushing
a patient.
You're right.
Can I also suggest something that because she said no and because yours said no, there is a lot of women,
women, when they become mothers, even before they become mothers, when they're pregnant, there is this, there's this pressure to become super mom and know everything immediately.
And I'm speaking from the standpoint of I've never had a child.
I lost one, so I never had one, but I have a lot of friends that I was there for when their children were born.
And I was a really, I was very supportive because they just didn't know what they were doing.
You know, they're not, they feel like they're expected to know everything, but you don't know anything.
You don't know what you don't know until you fucking know it.
And a lot of times that added pressure and a lack of understanding that you are physically in postpartum, not knowing because you've never had it before, you've never experienced it.
You just know you feel whatever you feel.
I feel like it's difficult to identify that that's what you're going through in the moment that you're going through if you've never experienced it before.
And that's all I'm going to say in this scenario.
That is an amazing point.
I agree with her.
For women and men.
And men.
You don't know what you don't know.
That's exactly what I was about to say.
And I'm not.
Just mute it up.
Just mute it up.
I was going to agree with you.
But let me finish.
Let me look at my claim.
Sorry.
Like, so you don't, I agree.
You don't know what you don't know until you know it.
And guess what?
In the household with the postpartum woman and the man, he going to be second to know it.
No timeout, though.
Because Mel said, yo, the women think that they supposed to be supermom.
Might not be, Joe.
Niggas think they're supposed to be super dad, too.
That is a fact.
You've just taken on a whole new individual that is responsible for breathing because of you.
That is a fact.
You got to make sure that they're healthy.
You got to make sure that they're fed.
You got to make sure that they're clothed.
You got to also provide a different...
Kids ain't cheap.
So now you bring on whole new experiences, whole new expenses.
Like, it's a different ballgame.
It's just not a ballgame.
And please don't take this.
It ain't just a ball game that women are playing.
The men are entered into that game as well.
And that piece gets pushed to the side.
And ish, to add on, my nigga, when my daughter woke up, I took the night shift.
I'm self-employed.
When my girl works, my nigga, when my daughter woke up at nighttime at three and two and whatever, I'm the nigga that sat in a rocking chair rocking my daughter back to sleep.
Men get just pushed to the side for that shit, nigga.
I'm the nigga that's going downstairs doing all the other shit when my girl asleep.
What you called the Mexicans and told them, though, about the business?
Nothing, nigga.
You gotta, yo, no, he's right, my nigga.
That modifies your business.
All of that shit took place.
Like, yo, people just look at it like it's a one-sided thing.
It's not.
And look, to what you were saying, as a man, you ain't just looking at you got to make sure the baby's good.
You make sure you got to make sure she good, nigga.
My girl could barely walk.
She had a C-section.
My girl could barely walk.
I had to walk her, pick her up off the toilet, walk her to the bed from the fucking toilet, my nigga.
All of those things
making sure I'm me, I sleep hard, kinda.
Yo, I got to wake up on a schedule to make sure my girl is taking her antibiotics and her pain pills, all of that shit on different schedules and all of that stuff.
It's a joint effort, fam.
I hate when we sit up here and act like it's just a woman thing.
It's not just a woman thing, even though they are going through mad shit that we couldn't possibly fathom.
Men are going through other shit, and we just discredit that piece.
So to that, to them, I hate that this is public.
They push somebody out of this shit.
Of course.
Of course, man.
No, nigga.
We're not saying it's equal.
It's not even remotely.
It's not even.
No, it's not even remotely equal.
I'm just saying that both of these people are ignorant and not knowledgeable about what is going on and what's to come.
I want to add on to what y'all saying, too.
Not saying this applies here,
but
them chicks with the angel images.
I know.
I know ain't nobody going to talk about it.
I know ain't nobody going to talk about it.
You ain't going to talk about it.
I'm going to talk about it, though.
How about it?
Hey.
Joe Button Podcast.
Prize-ish.
Prospect.
Featuring Icy-ish and flipping male in parts.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Dr.
Mark Lamar, Jeremy Hattie.
The women with the angel images are able to get off a lot under the guise of I have an angel image and I imagine it to be frustrating for a man.
I'm not even just talking about them.
They're young, so we're going to apply the young card.
But there are a lot of people out there hiding behind just this
image of perfection.
And behind the scenes, they are an absolute demon and fucking monster.
And nobody believes the guy because this girl done been in a fucking movie or two.
And I could say that a million times.
I thought it about Kiki Palmer and her baby daddy, what they went through.
I could name you six different couples to where the lady is an angel, so nah, no way she did that yep kicking rocks
do you know what johnny depp went through i didn't look at that case but yeah similar like until he started he had to prove he started he had to prove like yo no dog she it in my bed i wasn't familiar with amber they didn't believe nobody was but she had an image of a certain level of innocence or purity or coolness that he had to Now start going to get voicemails and recordings that she didn't know when he was recording her, saying, you pussy, I only smacked you, you pussy.
You're a man, eat it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like he had to have video, I mean, not video, audio recordings of the shit that was transpiring before he was even taken seriously.
Yeah, I just think that's, I just think it's whack.
I think that shit is whack.
That's it.
I don't have a deeper dive on it, but there's a lot of it going on out there.
I'll be without class and coof to continue to give you the names on this list, so I won't.
But anyway.
I just wish it wasn't all public like that's the worst part
we're seeing every inch of this play out in public and it was clearly a lot of like there was maybe postpartum depression manic there was maybe cheat like there's all these things going on but we had to see all of that play out versus them just working it out in private which again i'm i'm not in the public eye like that i don't have a child so i can't speak to that but throwing some of that on the way it'd be the women rushing to the courthouse
it'd be the women rushing to the courthouse to get help because the nigga, the dude is not doing something that they want or not behaving accordingly.
Men, I'll speak for black men, a lot of them ain't rushing to go start the courthouse process.
That's true.
That ain't happening.
Some more shit that's taboo that we can't say.
It'd be their ass going up there.
Shit.
In my case, I said it.
Yo, this is about to go public.
We should.
Let's do our best.
It never works like that.
So, I mean, we can sit there and I feel like calling Ben Stables.
Oh, it's public.
It's public.
You, where did the fuck did you think it was going?
But that's a you ain't important enough for them to seal nothing.
You didn't pay for no fucking mediator.
You went to court.
And unfortunately, the emotional part and the young part, they don't even think that far.
They don't think about all these things and age coming to that part.
I know, but I'm supposed to think the person that, all right, we can do age.
Age plays a part.
But the person that can't, the person, I'm so, but I receive that.
The person that don't think that far is also the best person to look after a child.
That ain't no Crisco there.
That ain't Crispin.
This topic hits home for you.
That's lard.
Home.
The topic hits home for you.
It does.
It does.
Lard.
Yeah, that's what I got to sat back in that motherfucker.
I ain't even going to Popeye's.
I'm over here, bro.
I'm busy.
I'm glad.
I survived.
I survived.
Fuck you.
And a lot of that is in large credit to both of my kids' moms.
It may have been rough for a second.
I survived.
And I couldn't have done it without you.
I couldn't have done it without you.
I'm in the same boat.
I'm extremely grateful and blessed.
Hey, the other night, my kid left the house.
My kid left the house the other day.
I didn't, and I couldn't find the Apple remote.
I'm so flying.
My co-parenting, I called late
like a mutt.
Hey,
if the kid is awake,
ask him where my remote at.
Me and mine, don't talk afternoon, 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock, nah.
I wouldn't even do that because, you know, you don't want motherfuckers to start thinking shit.
I ain't going here for a, whatever you do, you make a popcorn with your nigga.
I don't know what you're doing over there.
I want it to be peaceful, though.
She's thinking it's an emergency.
Like, oh, something must be really wrong here.
He's calling that.
It is an emergency.
I need that remote.
I need that remote for something.
You got to get the app on your phone for, you know what I mean?
I should do the.
It's already on your phone.
You can just control it from your phone.
She put him on the phone.
He was stressed.
Oh, I don't know where I got it.
I ain't doing everything, man.
You don't see how I'm doing that.
Yo, you got it, Bishop.
I love you, man.
I love you, man.
But shit, that shit like that is just a blessing to me.
It's the little things.
It's the little things.
I done been through the depths of this,
and it don't feel good.
So prayers to both of them.
Indeed.
Prayers to both of them.
I hope y'all find a pathway.
And the baby.
And the baby.
Nobody wants to say it.
The baby come after we
settle off, right?
Comic ground.
We'll both get to thinking about the baby again in a second, but shorty wilder.
Once the emotions cool off.
Yeah, yeah.
Once them emotions cool off, then you can start thinking about the baby.
If they ever do.
Yeah, I agree.
What did you throw on after you got the remote?
That's the real question.
Oh, damn, what was I feeling in the finish?
Oh, the friends and the John Hammond.
I had to finish something.
It wasn't that.
I remember it.
I remember you come back to me.
I was in the middle of some shit.
I I had to finish.
Oh, it was on
Netflix.
What's the shit I've been watching on fucking Netflix?
The three episodes.
No.
Why don't I just open that?
It wasn't Mobland, yo.
It's Mobland.
Whatchamacallit came out of this?
It wasn't Mobland.
It was the three episodes.
But anyway,
I'll let Jeremy know, but what is our next topic?
You guys did great.
You too.
You did great.
You killed that shit.
I I was worried.
I heard.
You did good, though.
You could hear that tick earlier.
That's why I was like, everybody, just stop because I hear it.
We can hear the tick in Mel.
I thought she was getting ready.
It was about to be a storm off.
It'd be jumping out.
Oh, no.
Not doing that no more.
Oh,
I am.
Okay.
You got all POVs there, I feel like.
Yeah,
I can't wait to hear you and DJ Head and Elliot Wilson break this down.
You know what?
I think we might be skipping that one on the topic.
That's my problem up here.
Like, we don't skip shit.
And when we skip shit, we get in trouble.
No, I respect it.
But the internet gets on you guys if you do skip it.
Like, they will, your conspiracy is so strong, they'll be like, oh, and they have conspiracies about it too.
They'll be like, oh, they didn't talk about it.
They're scared to talk about that.
Or some such and such is paying them.
Do you guys look at all that stuff?
Like, I know you have the JBP community and Twitter.
Like, are you looking at all these clips and all the stuff that people are saying every week?
Like, do you guys pay attention?
They see a lot.
I used to.
I still see a lot.
I see it all.
I see every word that's said I search every name I go on every platform I look at the niggas with two views ten views a hundred views a thousand views every one of them niggas talking shit or picking us up I'm looking
because I see I feel like you give nods to it too like you'll you'll throw little like comments in that you know the people who commented it will see it and they'll be like oh see we're making our you know we're having an impact
look at you you one of them them.
I'm one of the
picking it up.
You're picking it up.
What else needs
our attention?
Come on.
We're on a road.
We're on a road, you guys.
Don't stop now.
All right, well, we, I mean, it's not in the same realm, but it's court involved.
Eminem is suing Meta
for.
Oh, I'm not familiar with this.
Yes, he's suing Meta for
$100 million.
They've licensed, well, they've they've used his music without licensing.
How?
Through Instagram, Facebook,
all their platforms.
He's suing them for $109 million, and it's over 200 songs that they have been allowed on their platforms without
interest.
Like to use on reels and shit like that.
For years.
It's been
almost, I think a decade or
around there that they've allowed their users to bump his shit.
And they said he just sat back in the cut chilling until it accumulated to the point where he could sold them for $109 million.
So couldn't every artist in theory do the same thing?
Yeah, but they might have already got those artists' license.
Or they might have got.
I don't know how the license and shit works, but when I was reading over it, yeah, it was saying that basically they've been allowed
people to use his shit for a decade.
Apparently, he got some control.
Yeah, without paying.
That they don't have.
God.
That the other artists don't have.
Yes.
Or he might own his shit.
I don't know how it's working.
I think.
I don't know his situation.
You know what I'm saying?
If he owns his own shit, then they would have had to come directly to him.
Whereas other artists, they might have to go to UMG or somebody else that owns their shit.
Right.
Interesting.
Or they might got a partnership.
Meta might have already got a partnership with UMG.
Yeah, they did.
For the whole gamut of their artists.
Whereas if he owns his own shit, they might be outside of that scope.
Or he might be trying to
start something.
You know what I mean?
Like break down a barrier.
Could be.
Which, I mean, kudos to him if he does.
100 mil.
100 million.
Yeah.
Do you think that that affects things at this point where Instagram's just going to say, fuck it, we're removing all music?
No.
No, because they got deals in place already.
The artists don't own their own music.
They're actually, if you go now, go post something on Instagram now.
Hey, if you add music, we will
make you increase your reach.
They'll kill 10 of y'all artists before they remove your music.
What the fuck up, y'all?
A magic box.
The sharks got them.
We find a list artist.
Most artists want their music on there.
Yeah.
And he probably does too, to a degree, but
I'm curious to read more about this.
I was unaware.
To answer you from earlier, Jeremy, it was the Tylenol Murderers.
I had to finish.
I was on episode three.
A Tylenol Murderer?
I thought that was a good thing.
I was talking about this.
They were putting cyanide into the capsules.
I wish anybody up here would watch it because because it kind of ended on a cliffhanger.
Huh.
And I don't know.
I'll watch it.
I would totally watch it.
I've just been stuck on fucking Yellowstone.
Sorry.
I haven't even started Yellowstone.
You never watched Yellowstone?
I started in 1923 now.
Still don't know if I love it.
I like them all.
I haven't started that all the time.
I like some shit.
I liked all of them.
The main one is super fun.
Super.
Yeah, I just don't know if
it's good enough for me and my girl.
It is.
That's important.
It fucking is.
If If it's good enough for her, then I'll watch it.
My girlfriend put me on Yellowstone.
I mean, it might track.
The shows that only Joe Button likes
are going to take a while now.
I can't just immediately watch them.
I have to find time for those.
You got to find time for the solo shows.
You're like hiding in the corner watching.
No, y'all missing what he's saying.
I'm not hearing him.
You don't have the time for the solo show.
He can't watch it.
There's plenty of shows that Joseph Anthony Button Jr.
would love would be into and love to start like Yellowstone being one of them.
But I have to wait till I'm 30 or I mean I'm 56.
77.
Those don't get taken.
You have a list?
You just have a list of one dance after this.
Yeah.
I do too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you better be able to do it.
I've been smob land as soon as my girl got away from me.
Ran right through it.
Yeah.
Now, I don't want to put that on her.
I'm not a big fan of the accents, and she knows that, so we just left it.
But when she left, I was like, I'll try these British motherfuckers.
And I can't lie, some of the worst English accents you'll ever hear in the service.
Which is funny because I think Pierce Brosnan is really from over there.
And his accent was
really bad.
As bad as some of that other shit.
Nigga, I had to get through that and not understand a third of what they was talking about sometimes.
Y'all know I hate.
But my hearing's bad too, though.
But that was.
All that turned that shit up in the bigs for 30 years.
Yeah.
It don't work.
It don't work.
I put my TV to volume 89.
I can't hear nothing with the subtitles on.
Anyway, I didn't love Movland's ending.
I didn't love it.
I didn't love the ending.
It was too great of a series.
I didn't love the ending, but you knew.
You see, they're going in the season two.
With absolute certainty, they're going into season two.
Yeah, but give me something.
Give me something.
I know you're going in season two.
You had a good series.
Nah, I think they left it over.
Too open for me.
Too open.
I think they got four or five directions.
I think it's going to get better.
Why you didn't show me what Pierce Brosnan's wife was doing the same way you showed me Pierce in the jail scene at the end?
They did.
I think we should have got another one.
Do you know how many of these actors
are actually English in Mobland?
No.
Like Helen Marin.
She's an English actress.
Tom Hardy's English.
Piers Brosnan is Irish, actually.
That's why I'm not saying nothing Tom Hardy was.
No, and Piers Brosnan puts on an Irish accent.
You said he got a bad English accent.
Whatever his accent is.
It it was Irish.
He was the worst.
He was saying he was from Ireland.
I don't care.
He was from Ireland in the show.
I don't care.
What do you guys talk about that?
Janet McCear, she's an English actress.
These were real accents.
That's not changing what I'm saying.
I still don't like this shit.
They real English accents
are bad.
You know, there's different English accents, too.
Educate me.
I don't.
Okay, so there's refined English accents, like Downton Abbey, And then there is like Cockney.
What's the shit man's in them?
What's the best?
It's the bad part.
When we think about England, we only think about London.
Y'all don't like that.
It's like how somebody thinks about New York City in a tribute to the United States.
Motherfuckers from North Carolina don't speak like us.
Motherfuckers from Cleveland don't speak like us.
People from L.A.
don't speak like us.
So we just attribute England to London and think that everybody from England is supposed to talk like a Londoner.
And it's like, no, there's like the south side, like they are.
There's a bunch of shit.
Manchester, different shit in England.
You know what else didn't make sense in Mob Land?
Let me let me fucking just
spoiler alert.
So fast forward me.
What is the real nature between Pierce's wife and
homie that she caught you?
Steve?
It don't make sense.
I think he popped.
He did, but that don't make sense.
It don't make sense.
I think he popped.
I think she had,
she thought her cachet with him was bigger than it was.
You just killed, all right, stop, ish.
This is where you lose me.
Again, fast forward to this because I'm ruining this.
I'm mad that y'all ain't finished it.
You killed dudes, kid and wife, and shut it up.
No, I'm a kid.
And then called him with some type of reprieve.
No, stop it.
So they was fly until you killed my wife.
I'm going to rock with.
You killed my wife and my kid.
That'll usually do it.
Once she killed the wife,
you killed my wife for no reason.
Just because you ain't like her attitude or not.
No, because she assaulted you at the repast.
She assaulted her.
She said, yo, do you think Conrac has to sleep with this every night?
Ugh.
He has to have a daughter.
He assaulted you because we're at my son's funeral that y'all killed.
He killed my son.
Allegedly.
Not allegedly.
Because he was alleged initially.
Nigga, they know you killed her.
They didn't know that until after they killed the wife and everybody got on the phone and the son said, I chopped your boy up real fine.
They didn't know it at first.
Did somebody call you after your son and wife is murdered and say, Richie?
No,
no, the sex would have to be absolutely insane for you to answer that call and not so coochie that good in the world.
What's that?
That's the only part in the story for me that was just tough to get with, but I still enjoyed it.
It was a few.
It was a few.
I still enjoyed it.
I still enjoyed it.
Mobile was pretty cool.
What else needs our attention outside of TV shoot?
Where's my phone at?
The uh
uh uh Duke Duke the God.
Uh Duke Dennis.
Yo, you what?
No, no, you didn't.
Duke Dennis, and shout out Duke DeGaud.
Words, my dad.
Shout out to Duke.
That's my era.
That's why I'm like, what the fuck?
I ain't never trying to diss Duke DeGaud.
Duke DeGaud introduced me to A-rab, I think.
Shout out to A-Rab.
Duke Dennis has children.
Yes.
Okay.
Is that true, Jeremy, our fact-checker?
It is true.
Yes, he did.
He has kids.
He didn't say how many.
He didn't say all of it.
But there's like speculation that he had six children.
Every year it gets brought up on stream, allegedly, that he has a new...
This is not a super important topic and one that we probably normally wouldn't even cover.
But it's so funny,
and it did take over my timeline until DDG took over.
Duke Dennis is the streamer dude.
who all of the ladies were going crazy over because he's an attractive man.
Gorilla shouted him out.
He's a part of AMP.
But how a lot of casual people learned about him for at least a year, women were going crazy over Duke Dennis.
True.
Yes.
Then they learned he had kids.
How many kids?
It's a lot of kids.
Six.
Six.
By how many people?
A lot of people.
Yeah.
And then women totally turned on him.
All of a sudden, he was not attractive.
They started saying shit like, oh, he's a nasty dick all around town, nigga.
And you're 31 hanging around kids.
They just, all the insults came out now because they learned that Duke Dennis has kids.
Are you familiar with this?
I'm looking him up right now.
Yo, when you pull out your scope, though,
I got to stop talking about it because it's a double episode.
But
when you pull the scope out, talk to these guys.
I play it.
Scorpio, big Scorpio vibes.
Anyway,
what do you guys think about Duke Dennis having children and women changing how they feel about you based on the amount of kids you have and the amount of baby mothers that you have?
Are men allowed to do that to them?
Oh,
that's one, too.
What do you mean, what do we think that he has kids?
He has kids.
He has children.
The amount of children is, you know, that's the lifestyle that he's living.
It became a TikTok trend.
Girls started lying saying they was his baby mama.
It's a lifestyle.
And then some of the baby mamas came out and started talking about him as a parent, which I won't do.
But
it's become a thing, is all I'm saying.
I think it's hilarious
the women turned on him online they started taking that's the part that makes it find a picture
like I said they found a picture without a man without his glasses trying to roast him and stuff like that they call it glasses fish it went viral that way like 100 million views on that one picture yeah they was trying to do all that man I mean it did look a little different without his glasses
I mean when you listen
When you're younger and you inspire to be, to live a rock star lifestyle and you finally catch a moment, Man, you're just going to live the lifestyle, whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent.
You're just living a lifestyle.
And now, hopefully, that this has come to the surface, he could reevaluate how he's treating the mother of his children.
Ladies,
I will give y'all a piece of advice
that my OG Dollar Deal gave me in 95, 96.
When I used to see something fine,
and he would say, do you think you are the first gentleman to notice that she was fine?
Nah.
Nah, not her.
Not usually.
Not that.
That's fine.
Somebody better had seen that before me.
So she got a couple kids.
She on wick.
Niggas is running.
Niggas eating them wick snacks.
Juicy juice.
So why do the girls think that they the first people to notice that this nigga was fine?
Somebody noticed before you and let him shoot it up like you would.
So what the hell's the problem here?
I don't think there's necessarily a problem.
I mean I've definitely, you know, in the past found somebody attractive and then
found out that they had like seven children and Lord Jesus, you know it's you.
Spam.
Okay.
Found out that they had like seven children from five women and I was like, okay,
pass.
doesn't really
be like if it was three
situation for me if it was three would that be okay seven three what
you love the guy three kids oh no no there's no there's no love yet i'm i've just i've seen you and i'm mildly interested okay okay and then how many kids is too many kids for a guy to date melissa ford
yeah oh i mean there's different variables now because of like well i'm asking now i'm not asking back in the day um
At this at this stage of my life, I understand that men have probably, you know, had long-term relationships and have children.
But they should be grown in a way now.
Hopefully.
Hopefully, because if you got like newborns or like two years old, uh-uh, noob, noop, noob, noop, no.
I prefer them to be like in their teens.
I'd be tape stepmom.
But yeah.
I wish you would walk through the house.
You quick girl.
Your search is going to go crazy.
What are you fucking?
Mom's name is Parker.
One genre.
Word.
Oh, Lord.
Popular genre, too.
Word.
First thing that pops up,
unfortunately, right on the phone.
How did you get stuck under that table?
But that's how I know that I need help.
I think if Mel went home right right now and started a YouTube channel pretending to be everyone's godmother,
she's out of here.
Godmother or stepmother?
Stepmother is the
gyro.
There's got to be someone.
No discounts on this one.
We raising it.
We're raising it up on this one.
In the sink.
Under the bed.
Mel just start.
Where did I put the pomongers?
Oh,
here it is.
Here it is.
Catherine.
She's up watering the lawn and shit, nigga.
Yeah, holy holy.
I'm trying to tell you.
I don't even want a piece.
Let them have to try that shit out.
I don't want a piece.
You just can't give them the half off on that one.
I don't want peace.
Full price.
There you go, Mel.
Oh, no, that dude, that got...
Mela's not ambitious enough.
No, she's not.
One to ten, where do you think your ambition is?
That's for the room two, Melto Star.
And I do have three questions for y'all, too.
I think it might be for Patreon, though.
No, fuck that.
We're having fun.
Wale's coming for Patreon.
Oh, okay.
How ambitious do I think that I am?
I think I'm
one to ten.
I think I'm like a
seven.
Seven.
Take away six.
Six in a pot.
No, seven, take away six.
Six in a pot.
I give you six in a pot.
Flip.
Nine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Flip.
Flip might be like in the wrong, you'd be ambitious in the project.
See my numbers is up right?
Yeah,
I got you locked in
when I'm talking and all that shit I got an issue with I'm gonna text you about later 28 boy Yeah, keep doing it
fixed queen's fixed
Queen's fixed
I'm a three
I'm telling you right here
Why would you say you're a three?
I disagree I really want to know know.
Why would you say a three?
I don't think he's a three.
I don't think so either.
No, I feel like this answer is going to be fascinating.
Go ahead.
No, I just think that most of the things that I could embark on or
attempt to take advantage of, I don't.
Do you think it's because you're a procrastinator?
Itch Dennis.
He always doesn't fly shit to say.
I said, I think you're a bad thing.
I disagree with that.
I don't say embark.
Who the fuck do you think you told me to embark?
He's always embarked on something.
But this is a classic.
Embarked.
Who you trying to sound cork for, nigga?
That's cool.
Don't sound cool, nigga.
Why are you a three?
I just sexy.
I love his honesty, but he don't even care to change this shit.
He don't want to change it because he is.
This is what I'm saying.
He got a thousand dollars, nigga.
Nah, my favorite part about itch is: yo, I'm 50.
This is what it is, nigga.
It ain't changing.
He reminds us of Nana and him.
When Nana got old, like, yeah, I just do what I want.
Yo, I'm 50.
I've been like this my whole life.
Fuck it, it ain't changing.
I'm up, nigga.
Deal with it.
I'm not fucking with my uncle still.
Like, I'm lit.
My ways is my ways is my ways.
Ice freeze.
ah, shit.
If you a three, I'm a two.
Yeah, I think you're like, I think you're more like a six.
I don't think so.
I don't think so, Breeze.
I'm dead ass.
I'm dead ass.
Ice around the two.
Lie in front of the boss.
Ice around the two as far as ambitious.
Yo, absolutely.
What's ambitious to you?
The word.
You just out here striving to do way more stuff.
This nigga comes here on time, nigga.
He came on his day off.
That ain't ambitious.
He comes on time.
he came here on his day off like i said do you think ice could if he wanted to and he set his mind to it jump into a whole bunch of other outside ventures yes and he has
but i mean commit like really as many as commit to it if he could have 10 on the table if he could have 10 how many think he'll pursue okay i get what you're saying that's that's the gotcha all right got it answer that
if i have like two probably two yeah probably two
two out of ten and i know that
yo i have opportunities now that I get up.
I get mad at myself.
Okay, so let me let me.
Hold up for a second.
We asked Ish why he's answered procrastination.
Why for you?
He's in a soft man era.
Yo, let him in.
I just want a lot.
Free shit.
I mean,
free.
Free chips.
I'm just wearing it.
I just wanted Larry.
Niggas a whole triple dad.
He just wanted it.
Honestly, I don't think I have the time.
And I know that sounds crazy.
I know it sounds crazy.
I think it's for both of us.
I can't speak for him.
I'm just going by my eyes.
Let me give you a giveaway.
There's fear, too.
Let me give you a definition.
Fear plays a part in that.
Some part of that.
Fear plays a huge part in success.
Fear of what, though?
Success
and failure.
At the same time.
I think fears of success and failure play a part in that.
I say, I don't have no fear of failure.
I shouldn't fail.
failed.
Maybe success.
I fear a failing that I keep wanting to do more and more and more so I don't fail.
You are ambitious.
An ambitious person is someone who has a strong desire for success, achievement, and recognition.
They are driven and motivated to reach their goals, often setting high standards for themselves.
An
ambitious individual is determined and willing to work hard to achieve their aspirations.
So, yeah.
We're ambitious by that definition.
Me?
Or flip?
I thought thought you were talking about it.
He said he is.
I said I'm not.
I know, but she said you are.
No, I was saying.
Oh,
flip is not in question.
Yeah, flip is a question.
Jeremy,
I would say a nine.
The only reason I wouldn't put myself at a 10 is like I'm not willing to sit there and do this 24 hours a day.
I'm willing to do 15, 16.
You know, most of my time goes towards advancing myself.
What can I bring to the world?
How can I use my gift to reach the highest heights I possibly possibly can but i'm not willing to stream for 24 hours you know i still
get to a nine
he said the only reason i would say not a 10 is because yeah oh yeah
let me add let me add let me add real quick the other reason why is because i'm not selfish enough
that's true that's why
i'm sitting here thinking about
i put
everybody else's in front of mine when it comes to when it comes to ambitious oftentimes ruthlessness is accompanied
you but you know what success in order to be successful, you have to be able to.
You got to step on some motherfucking necks.
I just learned that.
Like, you have to be selfish.
You have to be successful.
That's not true.
In order to get to the next level.
Well, if you follow and abide by some principles and morals that you live by, I wouldn't say have to.
I would say it goes hand in hand.
Yeah, they're not going to be able to do it.
But if you, okay.
I think you also like.
Come on, Parks.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I'd be saying it right, but
there's such a thing as being too democratic, for sure.
There's a lot of times where opportunity.
Someone has to take the reins.
There's a lot of times where opportunity will be right in front of you and because you may like a person or this is my man, you won't take it.
And when they take it, you're still behind.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen things like that.
I think a bigger thing is like, well, at least for me, is trying to bring other people along.
Did you say your number?
No.
Lifetime, scale 110, right?
Yeah.
Now,
15.
Today, probably like 7.5, 8.
Got it, got it, got it.
And tell me your number again.
I forgot.
I said seven because
six.
No, I said seven.
He said you're six.
He said I'm six and a half.
I was just talking shit.
Yeah.
But I'm seven because
in terms of like my scale of values, ambition isn't, I don't even know if it cracks top 10.
You know, there's so many other values that I place higher on the list.
And in terms of peace,
pretty privileged, dear boy.
I mean, maybe, maybe.
But also, I equate ambition with ruthlessness because of what I've witnessed being in this industry for 25 years.
The most ambitious and the most,
generally speaking, the most ambitious and successful people I've ever witnessed that were super driven.
Stepped on my fucking
all the fuck over them, like just right on rungs on the ladder.
I ain't got to let me do that.
I disagree.
It's just liberation.
Yeah.
And I just, the things that I've witnessed, I'm just like, success does not mean enough to me to do things like that.
I've been around a billionaire niggas.
But see, that's one view, and she's right.
And I have based on her.
I have another question in closing, and she has more questions for us.
One more thing.
Some people look at their success as being unselfish in that I'm doing all of these things
for other people.
I get that.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, some people doing that shit for themselves and their own recognition and their own conceitedness or arrogance or whatever the case may be.
Some people like, yo, I'm busting my ass and I'm selfless so that all these other people that rely on me can have a better life than myself.
Real quick, I know it depends on what motivation is.
That's the ends justifying the means type of situation there.
But in the moment, you have to be a little selfish.
You have to like put the goal first.
You have to, if I'm trying to become successful, I have to leave a little bit of shit behind.
Like I said before, if I didn't, like I live where I live just because I'm closer to my daughter.
I'm down there where you live, too.
My mom told me.
I ain't hiding from y'all.
But I didn't know you lived over there, boy.
Hell, stop.
Those stories are ice, all right?
All right, all right.
And that's the new shit.
I know where you live.
I'm coming over now.
I didn't know that you was doing it like that.
I'll be over there, nigga.
The three bedrooms over there?
That ain't the old one, D.
No, no, it's the new one.
The new one.
New, new, new, new.
That's the old one.
Yeah, that wasn't there when I grew up.
But go ahead.
So yeah, you know he lived there?
Of course.
You know?
I ain't ain't know my mom's tunnels about my mother.
I used to live right there.
Say, where?
Oh, I'm driving over there.
Are you crazy?
That nigga in my hood?
All right, go ahead.
But yeah, you just got this.
You have to be selfish.
My final question to y'all before I toss the melody, which she had to say, specifically y'all, because the number was low.
Y'all don't have nobody that can push you through that or that you could lean on when you're not feeling so ambitious, right?
Like, sometimes I don't feel the greatest, and I could rely on Ian to fucking have a good month and pull me, wait till I get back in my, I could rely on my girl might push me sometimes.
Like, y'all don't have nobody to push you or recognize when you're not feeling so ambitious and try to help?
Or is that just
a y'all thing?
No, I don't, to answer your question.
I got people that
definitely try and push me.
I don't speak to them often enough.
For the push to be effective.
Yeah.
Got it, got it.
I do have a couple people, but honestly, they don't even.
They don't know?
Yeah, they don't know.
They have no idea.
Got it.
Got it.
Big Mail?
I have people, but they.
No, I meant for your questions you asked.
Oh.
Your number was high.
I'm not asking you.
Wait, did you answer, Joe?
What was your number?
Shit.
One of them going to call me as soon as he speaks to me.
100,000.
Hundreds, thousands.
I refuse to even be limited to the nines and tens of this.
Do you think that?
Ambition-wise?
Oh, yeah.
For sure, for sure.
You think that's what?
Now?
I don't definitely.
I don't think that at all.
I think now.
I don't even think it's a six.
I don't think that's fair.
I think y'all are projecting what you want him to do as opposed to what he wants him to do.
Yeah, but no,
but that's a part of it.
If you see, this is the thing.
The people that push you see something in you that you may not see in yourself.
So to push you, I see, I'm going to just take it to some things that he said he wants to do.
He ain't embark on them.
And he right there and can do it, but he won't do it out of fear.
Nah, you projecting.
No, I'm not.
I think that's projecting.
No, I'm not.
Like I said, it's not my shit.
No, no.
So I can't do it.
I'm going to story.
I've sat in and said that I would try my hand in stand-up comedy.
I don't think I'm not doing it.
Why you ain't buy no real estate yet?
No.
Why ain't invest in real estate yet?
Like develop on a bigger scale.
It's a simple answer.
This is a very simple answer.
Yeah, maybe I don't know.
And nobody knows it until you put your step off the ledge.
Nobody don't have enough knowledge to go on.
And I don't think that speaks to my ambition because I'm buying a bunch of real estate.
My portfolio looks amazing but never mind it don't look like you saying you think it should no the things that you said you want to do is what i'm saying the that you buying is easy
it's effortless
it's effortless i think that's it requires no effort you needed the effort to make the money in order to buy the stuff i know but that's that's i think i think that's my point i think that's privilege that's my point It's like an athlete, right?
You might make $50 million a year playing basketball.
You put in the effort to get good enough at the craft of of basketball to attain this amount of money.
But you might say, yo, I want to go and learn how to do X, Y, and Z.
You're not necessarily taking the hours that it takes to go learn X, Y, and Z.
But the basketball shit is a layup for you.
No, wait, but wait, I'm with you.
I'm with you here.
But that's because my hours, it ain't like my hours, my hours are dedicated.
I'm serious, though.
Okay,
but let me tell you.
I think that my hours today, most of them are dedicated to my goals.
One to ten.
One to ten.
I think he's a seven.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm taking off you.
What he did yesterday, I know that that part of him, he could be more ambitious.
And that's a part of his personality that he has to embrace.
I agree.
That's a flaw.
I don't even know what that is.
Not a flaw speaks to ambition.
You got to work on them.
All of the flaws that we have in our personality, I'm shy by nature.
The people that know me know I'm shy by nature.
I don't talk to strangers.
I don't talk to people.
Nigga, you got to step outside of that personality trait that you have to get what you want to get.
And those things, like what Corey is talking about, a million of them have come in your path and you turn them down all the time.
Yeah, I just don't look at it as a lack of energy.
No, that's right.
I'm ambitiously chasing something else, so I'm not doing that right now.
But I understand what y'all are saying.
I don't really agree with that.
And I don't know if I'll ever get to a point, Core, where
maybe
not say say it.
But can you advise it?
I did it.
I went to Bride Fix yesterday.
I got on the jet.
I went to the shit.
They offered to pay.
I said, no, we'll do it.
I showed up.
I sat in the middle like a fish in a fish tank.
Everybody who was anybody was able to come, say hello, shoot the shit.
They were Patronis.
They were fans.
They loved y'all.
They loved me.
They had stories.
Some like when I was a rapper and it was smile.
And I'm not good at that.
That's comfortable.
I'm not comfortable.
Wow, the fact that you, that's just the fact that you did that shit is fine.
Yeah, that you, that ain't you.
I can't say that I'll ever be comfortable with that, but I don't want to put a limit to you, even what I would be comfortable with.
And you might get comfortable.
If blah, blah, blah came out and said, Yo, we want to give you 50 mil to do X, Y, and Z.
This is a part of what we got to do.
I want you to meet the.
And if anybody out there would like to offer me $50 million
to provide services, to be uncomfortable, feel free to call Brother Schwartzman and
we'll discuss.
And you'll be on 10 that day.
Because Stephen A win cracked.
They kicked Michelle Beetle out of Sirius for Stephen A.
And they got a little beef, so that's funny.
But Stephen A just got 25 mil annually from Sirius for his show to go on top of the 100 that he just got.
So Stephen A might be at Call Anthony Towns money now,
which I would be too if Paul Rosenberg didn't have me blackballed from Sirius.
It's cool.
The alternate route is a long one,
but it'll get you to the same place.
Congratulations to Stephen A.
Smith.
And all you niggas out there getting a bag, running it up.
I see y'all.
I see y'all.
Salute to y'all.
Mel, your questions.
Well, when I was at the birthday dinner, you know, we kind of went around the table and, you know, just said a bunch of nice shit and stuff like that.
But we asked each other some questions.
And I was like, huh, I'm going to bring that to the guys on the pod because I feel like it will make you kind of introspective, but also kind of
allow yourself to congratulate yourself if, you know, whatever.
So one of the questions was,
what are you most proud of having happened this year
so far?
We're like halfway through the year.
So the three questions were,
where do you see room for improvement?
What are you most looking forward to?
this year or has it already happened and what are you most proud of yourself for having done or completed completed this year?
Three-part question.
Yeah, kind of sort of, yeah.
What are we most proud of?
What are you most proud of?
Where do you see room for improvement?
And what are you most looking forward to?
Or has it already happened?
And what was it?
I'm most proud of.
I'll start a New York Time thing.
I'm probably most proud of
my kids
today.
Like, that's probably where it's funny.
I just had that talk with my dad this morning where
he was like, Yeah, man, I need to go make a run, but
I was like, Dad, you can go anywhere
that you want in the world.
Like, it's fine.
I know you think it's, but you could pick anywhere in the world and just go.
Like, I got you.
And he said, Joey, it ain't even about that.
Like, my joy today is for my kids.
And one day you'll understand that.
And I said to him, I'm already there, so I feel you.
But just watching my sons gain understanding or lose understanding of the world and humans and people, that's probably what I'm most proud of.
Where I could improve 10, 11 years, 12 years into this bottom thing, I could still learn when to shut the fuck up.
That's watching y'all.
That's introspective.
That's watching y'all.
That's introspective.
Don't snicker.
That's a good one.
I'll take it out on y'all.
I will take it out on you on a future.
Seven episodes down the line.
He's just coming firing.
But no, on the playback, and we've been adding mics.
It's been a rotating cast for the most part.
And how you show up,
how I show up, shouldn't be the same in each instance.
And I'm still working on that.
So I can improve in that.
What was the final question?
No,
where do you?
What are you most looking forward to?
What are you most looking forward to?
Talk, yes.
Just know.
You're going to know.
Actually, no.
There'll be signs.
There will be signs.
I can't say, but there is something I'm pretty much looking forward to.
Should be soon.
Any day.
Will everyone know what it is when it happens, though?
They'll be like,
Hey, hey, Jeremy, hey.
There will be no denying.
What's going on?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to try to lie too.
I am going to try to lie.
But
pay intuitive.
Y'all scroll.
Clip, go ahead.
What am I most proud of?
My family.
Okay.
My family is what I'm most proud of.
How do they let you move around?
What's the second one?
Oh, that was the
short answer.
No, my family.
My family is what I'm most proud of, man.
What do you need to improve?
See, hold on, chill out now.
Watching my daughter become the woman that she's growing up to be,
that she doesn't let my behavior influence her thinking.
Just how she just thinks on her own and stands on her own, and she's willing to check me on something.
Just as a 15-year-old turning 16, where she's like, oh, daddy, you bugging.
That means a lot to me.
Watching my son, JR, just be around me every step of the way, even though he wants to live his life, but just still
making a sacrifice.
Watch him out.
He does have a choice.
Still making the sacrifice that he makes.
And just Nico being a badass kid.
That's a remind me of myself.
You know, Nico's bad.
Yeah, watch your mouth.
He said, Paul, see you.
What was the second one, male?
Room for improvement.
Room for improvement.
Just being
listening more.
Listening more, not thinking I'm going to know it all.
Willing to take advice.
Being more willing to just get more understanding.
I mean, we protect what we create, but even with that protection, there is some flaws in the creation if you are in a bubble.
A lot of times, I'm in a bubble creating without having, you know, getting outside forces.
So, I really want to listen more.
He's right, because you don't listen to me and get comfortable.
Well, I started to.
Lil Wayne.
I started to listen to you.
I made some moves.
Me and you had a talk last week.
I made some moves.
As soon as you had to talk with me about the studio, I made some moves.
I'm talking to you.
You do listen to me.
So, yeah, so I ain't nothing.
I'm not to have Imani come to know more of that shit.
Oh, Imani damn with me for that.
I love Imani.
I'm sorry.
I'll fuck y'all two niggas.
Yeah, I love Imani, nigga.
Whatever I got to do with the kids.
You said you got Imani locked in?
Yeah.
And what's the third one?
What are you most looking forward to?
I'm looking forward into taking the flip your view and what I'm doing just to the next level with JR.
Just being the father and son duo and actually getting him on the camera to get me comfortable and putting my family in front of the camera next.
You know, when I turn 40, I just...
I just want to switch things up.
So these next two years is very important to me when it comes to working.
So I'm looking forward to where it's going.
Stability.
Yeah.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
Yo, that's financial abuse, yo.
That's like financial mental abuse, yo.
I'll be doing that shit to JR.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, but it's stability.
Stability.
Stability, right, nigga?
Yeah.
Feel good.
What the fuck you do?
Yeah, nah.
Yeah, that's what you do.
For this year.
I think I said the year.
Nah, because she said, what are you proud of this year?
So y'all took it a little bit.
because you know you don't like to get into your Fort Knox business.
This year, professionally, a couple acquisitions I made are dope for long term.
Acquisitions are going to change what?
2000.
Using that word acquisitions.
That boy got them doors.
You got the Yee-Haw, nigga.
Scott Mac.
You want a horse?
Little merger.
Mergers and acquisitions.
Right.
A little M ⁇ A?
M ⁇ A.
We got to talk to you, though.
That's overdue.
Leave alone.
Improvement,
I could get out of my own way.
With regards to some of that shit, like the ambitious shit or embarking on new shit, attempting new shit, I could get out of my own way with that.
Kind of sabotaging some of the shit I could be getting into.
Where I'm going,
I just had some good meetings.
I think I'm going to push him.
Did you take off to have him?
Uh-uh.
Okay.
I got to add it because I see him.
I see him.
You can't say that to people.
I got to ask, though.
This guy's an idiot.
No,
I had some good meetings.
I think
some bigger development shit is on the horizon, so that's dope.
And that's where I want to be in that lane.
So I think that's dope.
I think that's promising.
Yeah.
That's a good chance.
All right, give us some advanced notice, though.
For what?
Before it pops off.
I don't got to go nowhere.
No, no, no, no, no.
Just let us know.
Like what you just did, like a couple days.
Yeah,
I wouldn't do that anyway.
But yeah, that's not why.
But I don't got to go nowhere.
Hey, Jeremy, I had to keep an eye on him.
I'm good.
I keep an eye on that guy right there.
Scott.
Most proud of him.
He's bonding and shit.
I want to use the same answer everybody.
This is a Helen Corey Service.
Yeah, that's why I ain't you.
So Hell Corey says it's a Corey Mushroom.
I ain't used the family.
But fuck it.
So that's why I ain't do it.
I am.
I am, but it is, it is family for me.
Y'all know that's
my, what you said, softening, whatever, Paul.
Yeah, but
whatever.
Hey, my baby graduates next week.
So
I'm going to be up there crying like a motherfucker.
We got two of our kids graduating next week.
So, yeah, I'm proud of that.
Like, getting them through the school year and smart as hell, kid.
How story?
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I'll tell it after this.
Where I could improve is.
Shave you all over the place.
No.
Fuck you up.
I'm going to fuck you up.
Where I could improve, seriously.
Taking more initiative, yo.
I got a lot of opportunities that come right to me.
And I just.
Because it means I'm going to miss time from doing this or being there for my family or being here.
I let shit slide.
And again, it's back to that selfish shit.
Stop putting everybody else before me.
I'm really trying to work on that.
Listening to y'all, it sounds like if y'all's ambition level wasn't at a three, y'all would be out of here.
I know for sure.
That's what it sounds like.
Like I'm off.
I'm bugging.
Sounds like y'all got a lot of opportunities coming your way.
Yeah.
Be careful.
No, yeah, nigga.
But I'm talking about.
When you say out of here, you mean out of here or out of here?
No, nigga,
I meant out of here.
No, I'm here.
What's it thought?
Stupid.
What are you most looking forward to?
Right now?
Graduation next week.
I'm sorry.
I'm happy as shit about that, bro.
That's fair.
Jeremy and Parks, unfortunately, we're shorted for time because we took so long.
I don't even want to participate in this, really.
I don't like to dwell in the past.
So I'm proud of everything that I do.
And everything.
I'm mostly proud of what my friends and family members are doing more so than my own personal accomplishments because i'm always going to work hard and
that's kind of that dope
i'm proud of this skincare routine this skincare routine my girls got me on i'm like 10 days in i feel like my shit's glowing a little i'm just a little i don't know how the cameras make it look
you look good thank you thank you um but no i i am extremely proud um to be here today.
I'm not just saying that because all you guys are here, obviously that helps, but I remember like seven, eight years ago listening to the podcast on the way to an internship that I hated being like, this is what I look forward to every morning, you know, every day.
And to be here literally in the moment, having a conversation,
God is great.
So I'm very proud of myself for the work you're took.
Salute to us.
Salute to Gary.
Yeah.
And I can improve on being more
the same work that I do for others and the same energy I put into others, putting it into myself.
I feel like I've helped build a lot of people up, a lot of companies up, a lot of brands up, a lot of channels up, and I've done a lot for a lot of people.
And when it comes to me, I always push it off and I'm like, ah, you know, I don't need to do that for myself.
That video can wait.
My YouTube channel can wait.
Whatever it may be for myself can wait.
And so I think putting more energy into me.
And I know like what you guys have done, what you've done, Joe, with your, you know, enterprise, your network is super inspiring.
So more, more energy into me.
And then, yeah, looking forward to whatever the rest of the year brings.
Thank you, man.
Make some noise for Jeremy.
Thank you, Garrett.
Elliot is taking care of you over there with the Uprocks.
Is everybody?
Yeah, everybody.
It was.
Let's pocket watch for a little bit now.
No, it was the first time in a long time when Uprox took over Hip Op DX, where, you know, shout out to my boss Jared and Elliot.
They just saw what I was doing and they said, go.
Because before that, it was a lot of, you know, stay over there, stay in your lane.
You know, you can do that little thing over there, but don't get too.
I don't care about that.
When do you get to re-approach in the negotiations?
So, I'm technically on a work visa.
I'm Canadian, as you know.
So, I don't know.
Oh, you know?
I have no idea.
Oh, yeah.
So, I'm from Winnipeg, Canada, actually.
Okay, get out of here.
Yeah, so
they're helping me stay in the country and
work.
I'm on an H-1B right now, currently.
You know, yeah, you know.
That was the one I was on.
Yeah, so, you know,
I asked him about his work contract, and he started telling me about his work visa.
Because he's not.
He's smart.
He's smart.
He's smart.
He's smart.
Yo, we're very thankful to be in the country right now.
And, you know, in the future, maybe there'll be some renegotiations, but right now, very.
Hell, God.
No, you got to go get with Julia now.
Hell, you bodied it.
Oh, man.
Get out there in that shit, boy.
Shut up.
Stop.
Yo, Jeremy and Julian John.
He did the reverse.
Wait a second.
Oh,
I got him mature.
That's four.
All right, that's dope.
All right.
What else is important?
What else needs our attention in here?
Let's see.
Timberland signs an AI artist.
I don't know if y'all care about that.
No.
Let's talk about the Pacers.
You don't say.
Okay.
You don't say.
What?
Shout out to the Pacers.
No.
Yeah, I ain't coming to make jokes.
I ain't coming to make no jokes.
Listen.
Shout out to the Pacers.
Shout out to the Pacers.
Halliburton does it again.
I left that game at halftime
because I'm leaving prize picks in Atlanta, so I'm trying to get home.
But the shock on my face when Keeb shows me the final score and the Pacers won.
In the first half, they had 19 turnovers.
I think the line that I saw was 16 and a half for the game.
They just didn't look the greatest in the first half, but the Thunder were never able to take off.
It was always an 11 to 13.
I think it ballooned to 15 at one point.
But they were never able to take off.
And as a Knick fan, I've seen that movie before.
So it was eerily similar to game one of the Knicks.
As a Knicks fan, I'm also validated that they went and did that to the Thunder.
I don't know if Tibbs feels the same.
I know he curses the body out right now.
Oh, yeah.
But shout out to the Pacers.
They've won game one in every series.
So, and the line was nine and a half.
People were expecting a thunder blowout.
But so congratulations to the Pacers.
I want to start with that.
Secondly, I think the NBA is doing a horrendous job with the finals.
And that's outside of small market teams.
How so?
It's only been one game.
I don't care.
I wouldn't give a fuck.
No, explain.
The finals is your final, right?
So, I mean, if you're old enough to remember the NBA on NBC and what they did for the finals, you would damn near see a monologue for each team and their journey to get to the finals.
They don't do that anymore.
Fine.
Maybe I was busy in prize picks.
I didn't see player intros that resembled the finals.
They didn't have NBA Finals written on the fucking court like my entire life.
That was special.
That was special.
I saw that.
They did not, I'm positive.
And you know what?
They didn't even have it on the jerseys.
I'll take it a step further.
They didn't put the Larry O'Brien trophy in the middle of center court like they started doing.
It is inexcusable for playing games courts to look better than NBA Finals courts.
Yeah.
I don't think there's an excuse for that.
Adam Silver's doing a horrific job with how the finals are being presented, how the finals are being covered.
They're not treating this like the creme de la creme of your sport, and I just think it's a mistake.
That's outside of the small market shit.
I get that you got your YouTube money, so maybe you don't really give a fuck.
But the finals is a big deal, and if it ain't, you should make it look like a big deal.
It should look like a big deal.
No, it's a big deal.
That's what I got for that.
Congratulations to the Pacers.
They've made this a series for the people that thought it wouldn't be one.
And I'm a believer.
Tyler Halliburton, I mean, Tyrese Halliburton, four for five on tying or go-ahead baskets in the clutch in just this postseason.
None of us have ever seen anything like that.
So I think it's time to get them some props.
And I'm here to do so.
I told people from the rip, I said that I did think OKC was going to take the series, but I still think that.
I didn't think it was going to be a layup for them.
Like, I think Indiana matches up pretty well with them outside of the Bigs.
I think Indiana is just as quick as them.
They defended them.
The Bigs wasn't on the court for that final offensive possession for the Thunder.
You and I agree with that.
That was a mistake.
Shea shot that shot.
There was nobody in the rebound.
Yep.
I think that
Indiana is just as deep, if not deeper.
I think Indiana defends well, and they shoot the three well.
A lot of them could shoot the three, and that was the thing that I said well.
They They got a little more grip, too.
Yeah,
I don't know.
I said that the Thunder had some of that cavalier in them where they're a young team, so you're going to expect them to resemble a young team at some point with a superstar.
Yo, the Pacers had 25 turnovers.
The Thunder had 11 points off them.
You're not going to win like that.
You're not going to win like that.
And the Pacers shot amazingly, and the Thunder didn't shoot well.
So even though they were getting all these turnovers, they still were shooting a shitty percentage at the half.
Like, they weren't up by amazing, you know what I mean?
At the half, the game looked like it was a runaway, but it really, really, really wasn't.
I think that coaching is going to come into play in this series
more than that.
I think Carlisle did it again.
Carlisle, he coached the fuck of a game
in the timeout.
He said, yo, you get the defensive rebound.
I'm not calling the timeout, even though they had one.
We just running this shit.
And you see Halliburton begging for the ball, went to the right, got to a sweet spot, mid-range,
hit the mid.
He He got the bucket.
I was watching that shit live.
I couldn't believe it.
I watched the whole shit live.
I didn't turn.
Yo, I had to pee.
I was just sitting there like, oh, I'm going to hold it.
Like, this is some bullshit.
They're not going to do it again.
Because at one point, it was just 10, 11, 10, 11.
They couldn't break 10.
You know what I'm saying?
The fourth quarter, it was just 10 points, 10 points, 10 points.
They shot a three to cut it to seven.
I was like, okay,
it's something different now.
So I think Indiana deserves all the kudos in the world.
All the kudos in the world.
I'm blaming the fucking stupid ass players in the league for calling this nigga.
Overrated.
The most overrated.
The most overrated when we got to go see about the dude.
No, seriously, there's something to be said about that.
After I ordered this Stromboli, let me play some.
Let me flip it.
I thought you were looking at stats.
Like, I know you're out.
I know you were out there looking at player stats.
I'm trying to time the food to get here at a certain time.
No, let me play this clip because,
again,
I enjoy Halliburton when he speaks, and he finally got honest after they stole game one.
And I like people talking about his voice keeps changing.
I like that too.
Where's my Halliburton clip?
Like to hear it, hear it go.
After you have a run like last year, and then you get swept in the Easter College finals.
He's just keeping it a bean, right?
What the conversation is about is how you don't belong there and how you lucked out to get there.
and that it was a fluke.
Guys are going to be pissed off.
We're going to spend the summer pissed off.
And then you come into the year with all the talk around how it was a fluke.
You have an unsuccessful first couple months and now that's easy for everybody to clown you and talk about you in a negative way.
As a group, we take everything personal.
Like as a group, it's not just me, it's everybody.
You know, I feel like that's the DNA of this group.
And that's not just me.
That's our coaching staff does a great job of making us aware of what's being said.
Us as players, we talk about it in the locker room, we talk about it on the plane.
We're a young team, so we probably spend more time on social media than we should.
But I just think we do a great job of taking things personal, and that gives this group more confidence, you know.
And we turned things around in January, which you guys know, and we just stuck with it.
And I'm really proud of this group.
We just all got each other's back.
And at every point.
Shut up, nigga.
Shit sounded great, right?
He's absolutely right.
He's inspiring.
Hearing him explain that, like,
makes sense.
You totally get it.
I like that.
I like that.
Also, before I toss to my distinguished cast, the falloff of Doris Burke as an announcer needs to be studied.
Stop, y'all.
She's a goat, though.
She's a...
Come on, dog.
Y'all don't want to have to talk.
We don't have to have to talk.
Nah, because I just...
There's nobody that's a bigger Doris Burke fan than me.
I love Doris Burke, yo.
She's been horrendous this offseason.
I mean, this playoffs.
If you keep talking, I'm going to find clips.
She has been absolutely horrendous this offseason.
I mean, this playoffs.
I've seen her a few times.
I don't know if I necessarily.
Look, they made an announcement that Doris Burke is not guaranteed to return elite ESPN's top broadcasting team in 25-26.
You don't fucking say, but hold on.
She's older.
I ain't watched much of it.
Here we go.
Hold on.
Much about.
And there's contact on the elbow.
This is why he's called the free throw merchant.
Every player in the league can do they lit her up for that.
This is from the Wolves and Thunder Field.
That's not the one that went for her.
And Rudy says, Bonjour, Mr.
Hartenstein, have a little bit of that left-handed dump.
Much about history.
I was watching the game when she said French and German don't like one another.
And Rudy says, Bonjour, Mr.
Hartenstein, have a little bit of that left-handed.
Have a little bit of that left-handed.
Let me tell you what the advertisers probably didn't want to hear while they were watching the finals.
Bonjour.
The French and the Germans.
The Germans don't like
each other.
That's snitpicky.
No, it ain't.
No, it is not.
I don't think that was horrible.
It was a little corny.
I was watching
this in particular will cost her her broadcasting job.
That one line and that presentation of a basketball play is going to cost her her entire job.
Are you crazy?
You kidding?
That is not how we present.
What's so bad about that?
It's horrendous basketball coverage.
We not then.
I'm mad at these announcers to be having some cringy fucking.
Yeah, I got it.
Reggie Miller's been having cringy fucking
shit for 20 years, doing that.
That's offended anybody?
Like, do we need to get into fucking race wars next year?
It's not race wars.
And a basketball.
Hey, let's see if she's back next year.
I'm not.
But that might not be because of that, but
she has not been, this has not been her greatest display.
That's impossible.
I just love Doris Burke, but
she's replacing Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy.
I know.
They should have never fired Van Gundy being cheap.
Well, I'd like Jeff Van Gundy to be a Knicks coach candidate.
So I'm going to shut up.
Anyway, back to y'all and what y'all thought about the game, the finals.
No, I just thought, I thought, to be honest with you,
I think these NBA playoffs have been amazing.
They really have.
I think these NBA playoffs have been,
you can see the parody in the teams.
Usually it wasn't that many just runaway series with sweeps and shit.
Even most of
the favorites lost to underdogs.
Indiana was the underdog to Cleveland.
When you say the playoffs have been amazing, I don't think that applies for the Western Conference.
I can see how you say that on the East.
I disagree.
The Thunder got,
they injured Ja Morant,
so we had had a Ja Morantless first round.
That Denver series was impeccable.
Denver Series went to seven, was amazing.
They made quick work of the Wolves, and now we'll see how this goes.
But Wolves, Clippers.
Who the Clippers lost to?
The Wolves, right?
Yeah.
Clippers lost to Williams.
Clippers lost to Denver.
The Wolves beat the Lakers.
Yeah.
You are correct.
Yeah, Parker.
That's right.
I think the Clippers were an amazing team in the Western Conference.
I had them high up there.
It's just unfortunate they ran into a buzzsaw, but I think the Clippers were good.
I think the Wolves were good.
I think in a bunch of these series, there was just, it wasn't a blah.
You know what I mean?
Like, it wasn't a blah.
There was a reason to watch.
Outside of the Lakers, and I'm a Lakers fan, I didn't think the Lakers had a chance at winning.
But outside of that, I thought that everybody played exceptionally well.
And I think it was a bunch of close, close, close games.
It was a few blow-offs, but I think overall the series is worth.
A lot of crazy comebacks.
I'm this guy, Pascal Siakam, is getting the love he deserves.
Former Raptor, he was getting shit on for a long time.
They were overrated.
Highly underrated.
They were saying he didn't develop enough.
He's not a superstar.
I blame the commentators for that, too.
The commentators said that Siakam
should be a first option, but he failed at that.
So he needs to learn how to be a better second option right when they're about to play the Knicks.
Say a word.
Wait right here.
All right.
And then he won.
42 on you.
38 on you.
Like Mike said, everybody's dance.
And then I took that personal.
And that was enough.
That was enough.
Yachtam is balling.
I'm happy for Malis Turner.
That Nim Hart cross-dribble, tween, tween.
No, no, no.
Jab.
Back up.
Let me hit you with it again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Step back.
See, that's the problem with the pacing.
Nim Hart going to turn into Kyrie at the end of the game, too, and hit some shots that he just, it's like, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
On the man, after y'all y'all got a little pushing match going, because they both from Canada, too.
Yeah.
They both from Canada.
So it was one play where Nimhard fouled Shay, and Shay pushed him.
Nimhard walked to the foul line and pushed him back.
He's going to shoot foul.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Also, having nothing to do with basketball,
that SGA post-game,
whatever he was wearing was tucked in, but you're seeing it still.
It was a lot going on up under that shirt.
I ain't see it.
And he had the pearls going across.
He looked like somebody that's about to be.
He's turned out a little beastly.
That's how you want.
You want to dress like SGA, yo.
I think if you had it, you want to dress like that.
I think SGA is one of the best dressers.
And you want to be him on the low.
He looked like somebody that had $700 million a year in the future on his radar, which is what they're talking about, rumored for his Supermax eventually.
He's a 10 on the ambition scale.
He's sick.
Halliburton is going to pay for that cute shit he did last night when SGA came back.
Man, we said that against the Knicks, too.
I'm not counting it in.
I'm not counting him out.
Yo, he hit him.
Not after what I saw last year.
He and Jalen Brunson, that fourth quarter, we can't take nothing away from Jalen Brunson.
In the fourth, you'd be like, a mother again?
Halliburton is different in that fourth quarter, bro.
Yo, Knicks fans out there, I'm going to say this in closing.
I know we still distraught over the Timbs firing.
It's a lot of rumors going around and false misinformation being spread, some of which says that Rick Brunson players are unhappy with Rick Brunson and want him removed from the team and some of y'all fans is pump pump pump pumping that up I'm here to tell you grave mistake grave grave mistake pumping that up to the best contract in the NBA if he go to his son's bedroom and talk and then he demand a trade don't everybody gonna don't let a tear fall dog what the fuck is wrong with these niggas y'all bark up that tree that tree will fall on you.
Yo, I just don't like the way they was treating me, son.
Rick Brunson.
Y'all want Rick Brunson removed.
Nigga, all right.
It's going to be him and his fucking kid.
Nigga, and I'm going to come in here and remove every point guard that has played for the Knicks in the last 25 years.
And his son is college homies with the other three.
They out of there.
Yeah, the college homies is out.
What for?
Reclass.
Yeah.
And anyway,
that's my sports report.
I I don't have anything else in sports.
I got one thing that it pains me to.
Yeah, right.
Welcome to Pittsburgh.
You're like, what?
I don't want that nigga there.
I've been saying this from day one.
I'm Mason Rudolph starting.
Fam, I don't want Aaron Rodgers.
I told y'all last year.
I did say that.
I've been saying that.
I've never been that shit.
It's the best option, right, though.
Yeah, because of all the bullshit that y'all done to lead us up to this.
It is the best option now.
You left yourself with no other option.
One thing that nigga could do, you could still sling the rocks a little bit.
Throw that ball, ball.
I'll be curious to see.
He'll have a good year.
Me too?
I hope they do.
I don't know how his leadership is going to be.
I'm really, really curious because he does things his way as we
straight down the street, and Tomlin does not play that shit.
If he's there in the 10th round of my fantasy, I'm getting him as a backup.
10th?
Because I think niggas will play with him and leave me.
Yeah, about 10.
Oh, yeah.
Quarterback score.
If he's there,
that backup quarterback position is very important in fantasy.
Canvas it is.
For when your starter wants to act cute.
Or go get Kirk.
No, for when your backup wants to turn up.
Get crazy.
Yeah, when your backup be fucking...
What's my man from?
Minnesota?
Kirk Cousins.
Oh, yeah.
You start getting Kirk Cousins as your number two, and he start acting like a 1A.
Sam Donald will be doing that shit, too.
Talking about it.
He'd be going off on some backup shit.
That fucking run Joe Flacco had with Cleveland.
Somebody went crazy.
He was lighting me up.
Good wave of wire pick.
That is is our sports report we have yet the delta and the trump and
what do y'all think about the um nba all-star game next year being usa versus the world
instead of east-west i'm chairing for world that's fire i think that i think they needed to do something because everybody was fucking bored as shit with the all-star game nobody cared they tried everything else they did that's fire so now they got to tug on your pride
patriotism and shit
i just think listen i understand trying to come up with something new so I'll be excited if we get cooked, though.
I don't think Adam Silver has watched the foreign players during All-Star Weekend.
That's true.
Yeah, way, way, way.
Oh, I totally disagree with you in Parks.
Them foreign niggas, with the exception of a few of them, they don't give a fuck about All-Star Weekend.
It's egregious.
Jokic might not show up.
He's the main culprit.
Oh,
what you're saying.
Luca, I will never forget.
They passed him the ball from the inbound, and he shot that shit from the other team's free throw line.
He was there.
He was there.
And this is what I think.
Oh, okay.
I think they're pride.
I think they're pride going to come out.
Wimbinyana.
I think they're Shay,
Luca, MB.
Well, not MB.
Yeah,
if he's got two legs.
Players with pride better outnumbers the dude, better outnumber the dudes that don't give a fuck.
Because none of the American niggas like the attention that the foreign niggas be getting.
And I think it's
a personal game.
I think that's going to be personal.
I think it's going to be personal.
The only thing I don't like about this is with this format,
you're announcing that you're robbing some people of their all-star spots.
How?
Because you have to fulfill a world roster.
And the USA roster.
So people that might, but people that might not have made the world roster will make it just to fill up a team?
Yep.
Maybe.
The USA, not so much, but the world roster.
Because it's not enough.
I think both sides.
Both sides.
USA got all the old niggas.
Yeah.
And you're not shit.
Fans be picking that shit.
The old niggas be making it.
Fans just pick the starters.
I like it.
I'm also interested to see how inside the NBA looks on ESPN without them having NBA rights to games.
What does that look like without y'all being able to show me the game?
So we'll see about that.
It'll be podding, basically.
ESPN not having the rights to games just sounds funny.
But whatever.
We'll We'll see.
We do have to cover Elon and Trump for a second.
I know you guys want to go enjoy your Friday nights, but we got at least another nine hours in this business.
17.
At least another nine.
Especially these niggas got opportunities that might change their life coming.
I need nine more hours out of y'all two before some deal gets signed.
Yeah.
Do y'all care?
Hello?
Trump, Trump, Trump, and Elon, man.
The bromance fell apart.
In the messiest way possible.
Yeah.
They said this is the Drake and Kendrick beat for Republicans.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yesterday on Twitter, I saw it crazy.
It's funny.
Back and forth.
Because half of the party kind of did.
Pick a side.
They picked a side.
And I think this is more telling.
I think that
a lot of Republicans really don't fuck with Donald Trump.
Like, I think they really don't fuck with Donald Trump, and they've just been too scared to come public with it.
Agreed.
That's That's been literally for a while.
Yeah, they don't fuck with him.
And I think that Elon is right.
I think the Elon fanboys helped him win the election this year and possibly some other takes place.
And some money.
And some money and
$280 million.
You know what I mean?
I think that
I think Elon, I mean, Elon, pardon me, did get a little big in his britches and forgot that he was talking to a narcissistic motherfucker in Donald Trump that you're not going to just come in here and just keep publicly big bro and me.
I don't think that's going to keep happening.
I'd like y'all to to break this down for me like I'm a kindergartner, but I agree with that tenfold, at least for a year.
And now, at least for
six months, Elon is seen to be getting too big for his britches as it pertained to Trump.
Man, they was running around saying that he was the one running the country for real.
They were.
Because it looked like that.
It did look like that.
Bro,
I'm in the Oval Office.
What with some sweatpants?
He ain't have on sweatpants, but fam, nobody comes in the Oval Office dressed down like they going to dinner.
Like, yo, you in there with your kid, your kid telling the president, shut up publicly.
Elon set this off with the debt they win or the debt plan?
He said that the bill that they just passed, the bill that they just passed was trash.
A lot of people are saying the bill that they're talking about.
The bills pertaining to everything.
Budget shit.
Mad shit.
So the budget shit, a lot of the budget shit.
So Elon came forward and said, yo, dog, not for nothing, no disrespect, this bill is trash.
This bill is going to add, they're saying way more money to our deficit.
Donald Trump and them said it's not.
Public people that are in support of Donald Trump have come out against the bill.
Kevin O'Leary, who's Donald Trump's man from Shark Tank, Mr.
Wonderful, he said this bill is horrible for all small businesses.
He said basically 62% of small businesses are the driving force to our economy.
You shitting on them.
So he's like, yo, dog, my people are going to be calling me like, yo, what the fuck is going on?
So Donald Trump and them, of course, said, no, it's not.
It's helping small businesses.
The tax cuts to the 1% are enormous.
Again, they're saying that it's some future shit that's going on where
people that are making under $30,000 a year are going to get hammered in taxes.
Like, if you're already at under 30 grand, no disrespect to nobody out there.
Like, yo, fam, you can't afford no more tax hits.
You know what I'm saying?
So it just...
And so the motherfuckers that are being truthful saying, yo, this is some bullshit.
I have a brief summation from like New York Times.
I love New York Times.
All right, here we go.
All that shit.
Rewind.
Come on.
You've been killing since that whole Take Fridays off thing.
Shut the fuck up.
I've never seen anything quite like this.
Elon and I had a great relationship.
I don't know if we're well anymore.
So last week, Elon Musk left government.
It was the end of his tenure as a special government employee.
He got this.
nice press conference with Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Thank you, Elon.
Thank you.
Take care, Charlie.
But behind the scenes, it didn't seem that everything was going well.
Over the weekend, President Trump removed the nomination of a key Musk ally from the head of NASA.
And throughout this week, Elon Musk has been posting about this supposed big, beautiful bill that Donald Trump has been trying to push through Congress.
And he's expressed his worry about this bill adding to the federal deficit and increasing the federal debt.
And on Thursday,
Donald Trump addressed that kind of rhetoric.
He knew every aspect of this bill.
He knew it better than almost anybody.
See, that's what I was wanting.
Musk unloaded his full clip on Donald Trump, accusing him of being associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
He talked about how Trump's tariffs were going to be bad for the economy and lead us to recession.
I don't think we've ever seen someone at this level fall out with Donald Trump.
You know, in some ways, Elon Musk is his equal, someone who is incredibly wealthy and someone who has taken credit for a lot of people
went.
Both men are known.
He's getting his opinion now.
All right, we don't win.
I don't see them as equal.
Why?
Elon Musk is way richer than Donald Trump.
Well, richer, but power.
Powerful.
Power, influence.
Power means a lot.
I'm thinking on the power tip.
But Elon basically said.
He's wealth comes power.
But Elon basically said in his tweets, he was just like, I got this motherfucker elected.
Like, I did.
Thank you for your service.
Yeah.
He's like,
you're so rich and wealthy and intuitive.
And you ain't doing me a favor.
I'm waiting for him to say that they rigged the election.
I think he's all but said it.
Donald Trump is just a New York nigga.
That's it.
And what I mean is that we'll let you feel like
you're inside and we all cool and chummy-chummy and it's all great and it's all good.
But in the back of my mind, I'm watching you and I have a plan just in case you get a little bit too comfortable.
I would agree.
And that's what John played possum.
Trump played possum, made Elon Musk get extremely comfortable, and then wham, and showed him that.
Because he's been saying things in the beginning.
If Elon Musk tried to run against me, well, you know, he's not even from this country.
He's been saying things that he got quiet.
So then Trump just showed him, man, never, you know, I could play possum better than anybody you know.
I got 50 years dealing in the swamps, nigga, down with the mafia, from the mafia to talk about us.
Like, yo, dog, I've been with them.
I've been with them.
You just a wealthy dude that's a genius.
You're a genius.
And you're a goof.
And a dork and and a goof.
You're a goof.
So when we need the money and when we need the tools and the assets and resources, then we'll call you.
But other than that,
nah.
You ain't?
Nah.
Trump's narcissism is one of my favorite reality shows because I can bank on him
to act like he fly with pins
for the rumors to go around, yo, when pins take over, yada, yada, dada.
And then Big T saying, nigga, never the case.
You're done.
So he does this.
He does.
So when him and Elon Musk was acting like friendly, friendly, friendly, and Elon Musk didn't see it coming, I was like, oh, this is happening.
Yeah, he didn't.
He didn't see it coming at all.
He was none the wiser.
I don't think so.
And I think the relationship was mutually beneficial.
Like, honestly speaking,
you can't say Donald Trump was no corny nigga in the 80s.
He wasn't no corny nigga, son.
He kind of was him.
Huh?
He was corny.
No, he wasn't.
He was not corny.
I don't want to defend him.
I mean, neither.
I'm just in the 80s.
I'm just being honest.
Donald Trump was...
Donald was him.
In the 80s, 90s, Donald Trump was him.
He was running around here, Playboy nigga, like Iron Man or some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And then his other views started to cloud.
Honestly, if he never runs for president of the United States, he continues on that trajectory of being one of the cool whites, unfortunately.
No, I'm just saying, because a bunch of that shit would have never come out publicly that he did.
When he started running for, then people started going to search and find find some of the little racially motivated shit that he was doing but donald trump was a cool ass white dude running around billionaire messing with all the baddies back when we was coming up if i have to pick between the which evil i like more
i'm picking trump over elon musk sorry buddy
i am
sorry it sounds bad no don't i'm which i'm which fucking doofy ass elon musk
and i don't fuck with trump but elon musk
yo so it's funny.
So he says, yo, I'm about to drop the big bomb.
I think that was a mistake.
If this is your big bomb, I don't think it went the way you planned.
Yo, Trump is on the Epstein tapes.
And we like,
well, we knew that.
We knew that.
But why you didn't know that?
He did.
No, you knew that.
Oh, no, you did know that.
And you sleep cool with it.
And you ain't saying nothing lies until y'all start beefing.
Yeah.
Yeah, and if you did, why did you keep working for him?
His people's question.
Your man came out.
He's the king goof.
Who?
Kanye.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I'm not even doing that.
No, bros.
We love both of you guys so much.
Man,
yeah, but he sucked a lot of dick.
Yo, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Because
what?
You can't say that.
He did.
I'm telling you what to say.
He did suck a lot of dick.
I'm not telling you what to say.
No, you can say what he said.
His cousin.
His uncle or some shit.
You can't suck it.
You can't suck your fucking uncle dick and then chime in when the president is going to be a bitch.
You can't do that.
Because now it looks like you're rushing to suck another dick.
Mind your fucking business.
You're not a politician.
We're not checking the album.
You lost the gap deal.
Sit down.
Enough of you.
Lost Amber.
Nigga, move.
Move.
It's over.
You lost the white girl.
Move.
We don't want to hear that right now.
White and black.
We want to see the Titans.
It's a big fight.
Here you come making it about you.
You are a different class of narcissists.
You got to move.
Wait for a second.
We've been waiting for this for a while.
Sorry, Kanye.
It's not about you right now.
How does this end?
Like, what is a possible result of this?
Nothing.
I'm fine.
No, no, no, not.
Not yet.
Not yet.
I know where that comes.
I don't think he's done.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, no.
Trump and Elon.
I think Trump pulls a bunch of that money.
Because that's some of the shit.
It got to do with some of the money.
Government contracts.
Is it true he stopped signing the contracts for the Elon shit?
You start pulling my money.
We're going to start beefing a little bit.
You might have made some promises to me that I need you to follow through on.
And now that you out, this is all speculative.
Now that you out here fucking with the motherfuckers in UAE and you got some other heavy hitter money niggas behind you, you don't necessarily got to sit down
and kiss my ass no more.
Trump said the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon's government subsidies and contracts.
I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.
Then he went on to say, hold on, is this shit?
Yeah.
He says, I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago.
This is one of the greatest bills ever presented to Congress.
It's a record cut in expenses, $1.6 trillion, and the biggest tax cut ever.
Nigga, please.
If this bill doesn't pass, there will be a 68% tax increase and things far worse than that.
I didn't create this mess.
I'm just here to fix it.
This puts our country on a path of greatness.
Make America great again.
So, so great.
So, so great.
The bill is so, so beautiful.
You have no idea.
Fuck out of here.
Oh, man.
That's your man.
That's your cousin.
I think somebody ain't here voted for Big T, man.
Not I.
Not I.
No.
I can't vote.
Me neither.
You can't vote.
I can't vote.
I'm just happy to be in the country.
Thank you.
To whoever makes it.
Thank you, LE.
Are we done?
Are we done?
Until Mark is back.
I don't care about this shit.
What else needs our attention?
This has been rather long.
Let me see.
Shout out to a friend of the show, A.
Marie.
Her tiny desk episode released yesterday.
I didn't see it yet.
I didn't see it yet neither.
I haven't seen it yet, but it's been buzzing online, huh?
I don't know.
Now,
I don't know.
I'm asking y'all because that's what y'all said.
Don't do that.
What we said off-mic.
I know you're not talking about the shit we say off-mic.
I'm saying, are you questioning, are you calling back the things that we said off-mic?
Yes.
Got it.
That's crazy.
Got it.
Listen.
He does it all the time.
He does it all the time.
More rats.
More rats.
Absolutely.
More rats.
Absolutely.
Yep.
I see the chatter out there.
A.
Marie
is too great to me and has been too great to me for me to participate.
Toss.
Congratulations to A.
Marie.
Congratulations.
She sat here and told us how much she was looking forward to her tiny desk
and let the legends fucking get warmed up, get back in their bag.
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
But is it possible that people who listen to it just don't have an appreciation for GoGo?
Okay, now we can.
Okay,
yeah, I feel like we should play a little bit of it because we've listened to the music that she's been releasing.
She sounds incredible.
I'll play a little bit, yeah.
I'll play a little bit.
You gotta go from the tiny desk to the big desk, little steps.
If y'all buy me a little bit of time, I threw your name in it.
Hey, yo, hold on, you know, they called your man's name at the trial.
One of the greatest songs ever made.
Shout out to friend of the show, Amarie.
We love you, and we're looking forward to some more.
Sometimes when you come straight off, you know, she just said you come straight off a flight and go straight to business.
Sometimes
you gotta rest beforehand.
So it's hard.
Shut up, Corey.
I love it.
What your heart wants to say to me.
And I'm coming out to break.
I'll make you mine, I'll make you mine.
No one, no one, no.
I'll make you mine, I'll make you mine.
Only you
want to keep on seeing life.
There's some fluctuations happening there.
That's your fire.
Was her mic shutting up?
Wake up.
It could have been.
It probably was a mic mouth performance.
One of the best folks performances I've had the honor of hearing.
I think it was probably the mic.
I'm blaming the mic.
That's great.
The mic.
I gotta watch it.
Back up dance.
I'm blaming anybody before that shit.
You gotta watch that back because
Hurst and Babyface tiny dance, no doubt.
Fuck y'all, fans.
You're always talking shit.
Shut up.
They always got something to say.
We all tiny desk guy.
Let's see here.
We don't need to get into Timberland right now.
We can get the fuck out of here.
We can get that out of here.
I think I am going with
next week is a good weekend music for me.
Y'all hyped me up with all this Lil Wayne shit, but I knew this week was a
deuce snooze fest.
Next week, I think this Ty Dollar Sign Project
is another album next week that's fun.
I'll tell you later.
I'm going with Ty Dollar Sign
off that Tycoon Project.
This record is called All In.
Do you mind if I spoke you, baby?
Cause I'm on true.
Tell me, do you mind if I show you something?
Anything with the Lumi D beat is a win for me.
And Wayne Wonder.
Oh.
Do you mind if I head it for the back of Sana, baby?
Or do you mind if I find it as a missionary?
Do you mind?
I'll make you mine.
Don't give it away.
Beat it up on the honey press.
Cause I could throw it deep in the end zone.
Put a baddie in a friend zone.
I give you the keys to the girl.
Summertime come, I change clothes.
And I just wanna know you mine.
Do you mind?
Do you mind if I spoke to you, baby?
Tell me, do you mind if I show you some of them?
Cause they let our master play
if you be the
body.
And somebody,
she is a beauty.
And so special,
we live in truth.
Take me,
like this for you.
I know I
No, I don't care what it costs, they know the bosses.
Shorty give what you want, just put it in the car, chill.
Shop and speed, soft on me, put your money away.
Treat every girl like it's her birthday.
Do you mind if I spoke you, baby?
Tell me, do you mind if I
Brand new music from Ty Dollar sign.
That record is called All In office Tycoon album that should be in your phones next week.
Shout out to Todd, man.
Can't wait.
Good shit.
Good shit.
I've been playing this Banks album over and over.
Came out a couple weeks ago.
And I'm going to go back to that.
So my sleeper is If I Wake Up, Chloe Banks.
Oh, hello.
Hello.
Do you hate when you're not in there?
Honor matters when no one's looking.
And can you look in the mirror?
Kimby biased when you're critiquing just because someone's familiar.
Poverty's a shortness of breath for Benjamin's the inhaler.
You got money to spread around here, things don't only get realer.
The minute you brush niggas away, they start painting the wicked picture.
You think sober really make me feel better?
I'm getting sicker.
Nigga, honey and flicks don't mix like different liquor.
Blicker, don't let me die.
Last words of a victim's whisper.
I wasn't always a winner.
Who knocked me down with a loss?
Got addicted to lavish living.
Got me back on my course, just be original.
Can you picture a copycat with the torch guard and the physical?
Hard-hitting rocky pack to endorse.
Deadliest writer hand filthy in my survival plan.
In the event I die, bring a nigga back with a hologram.
The drama land, I'm in a limited edition monogram.
Don't let him cause separation more than the common woke up today.
I won.
I should have been dead, look at what I become.
I've seen your skin sheds, fixing me where you from.
Best of me with your gun, struggle and sacrifices.
Just to be number one, see tomorrow I'm blessed.
Niggas that ain't here, wishing they could distress.
Some folks that ain't fear, living peaceful to stretch.
Moody violence and sex, ain't no honor in thieves.
They gon' tune, and they never appreciate the door.
They know that it's shut, keeping my distance from it, even when the world opens up.
The less fortunate is another individual's luck.
Snitches get stitches, nigga, the son of a ritual cut.
Respect nothing more than was honest.
Now what you tell me the truth?
You wanna change his history, don't you?
Nigga, bury the proof.
Lip out the noose and stand up, nigga, in the face of whoever.
Got two pair eyes looking at me, gotta raise them up and I'm buying everything I wrote off.
You gotta pay me forever.
Ain't no coming back from your shady endeavors.
Can't spend a day being jealous.
Hanging up all this war jewelry, hard to remove the victor.
None of this ripped the perspective coming from newer scripture.
I moved the rich to a new elixir, the tool of fixture.
So crucifixes what follow, don't think the shoes are fitcha.
You lose a nigga, could pick some make the illusion bigger.
Hit the blink of a hot, that's heat on you.
No room to shift when I woke up today, I won.
I should've been dead, look at what I become.
I've seen you sniff shit, snakes and be where you from.
Best to be with your gun, struggling sacrifices.
Just to be number one, if I see tomorrow, I'm blessed.
Niggas that ain't here, wishing they could be stressed.
Sometimes it ain't fear, little beast was a stretch.
I'm only violence and sex, ain't no honor and thieves.
Ain't no truth next.
Know I made mistakes, cause she didn't go according to plan.
Maybe I was right all along, and it was all in God's hands.
Classic composers therapeutic, thank the Lord for my fans.
You I would make it the same day.
Niggas told me I came.
Get you the spot to see me climb.
Mark with my name to the tower.
Hold priest to the throne above me.
And you gave me the power.
Cut communication off lately.
I need all of my hours.
Looking wrong, hope in a conscious checks tomorrow.
Next is ours.
By the time you give me your flowers, To be dead with no color, got no problem meeting my fate.
Mongers is not my brother.
Know when I'm driving any day, I couldn't stop for my color.
You never understand the trauma.
If you're not from the gutter, I was told it's 187s.
Wanna cop on the cover.
People will lose their whole identity.
For a pop in summer, sometimes everybody won't make it.
I'm not gonna wonder.
I knew niggas selling their soul every day.
Me with his cup.
When I woke up today, I won.
I should've been dead.
Look at what I've become.
I see you sniff shares.
Next to me, where you from.
Best of me with your gun.
Struggling sacrifices.
Just to be number one, for seek tomorrow and blessed.
Niggas, they ain't here, wishing they could be stressed.
Sometimes they ain't fear, look at these through the stretch.
Money, violence, and sex.
Ain't no armor and beeves.
They want you to do next.
That's on his new project.
What'd you say?
That's on his new project.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is uh
that was If I Wake Up off of All or Nothing 3 despite my mistakes.
Alright, I'm going to Detroit.
This is
a little, it's a different style of rap.
This is Bruiser Wolf and Fat Ray.
Fancy
livings, I made my rain pop.
Bait tell a man, like damn, it's the same guy.
Showing the drown, brown coaching, I'm AI.
That was scripted in the same place, like a hostage or a statue.
My life was going downhill.
I was facing an uphill battle.
I'm trying to better my wealth.
That's my bookie.
What's the odds if I better myself?
My past is dark.
Gothic.
Everything I say sound good.
It's melodic.
Sipping on gentonic.
Talking, blowing clouds that look like power when a comic.
Her legs spread just like gossip.
I give her dick.
I ain't kill a pussy, but it's like hostage.
That's hospital.
Be the fan stitches and rivals.
You know the gone with.
The bad hope like bronze, and I promise.
I promise, but still pop a drink.
Like the grandpa of a donkey.
I forgot about these topics, I need a burning.
See Love,
36es, you think I'm demonic.
I was hooked on chronic when y'all was hooked on finic.
But y'all can die on a loose sleeve.
Got me a groupie.
They said I took down with Pluff and Rare Coochie.
Cause I'm doing big things.
I'm doing big things.
Hopping on facts, leaving shit stained.
Shit stay.
Cruiser wolf.
Cooler than the nickname.
The courage for ain't shit change.
The FNN Bing cop, this butter out the ziplock at the pit stop.
Competition gon' block.
Resistance, I'ma go the distance.
It's a hit, me and Wolf backlit.
Bet the gang beat your ass if you sneak it.
Let a nigga hear your new shit.
They gon' leak it.
The industry, the weakest, see me.
Be that is, all that is.
You is ER, I see y'all squares.
Don't you know my nigga daddy fucking fed they kids?
Fuck your podcast, it ain't fucking with his.
That's how it is.
This shit is brewed out, fuck a freak bitch.
They getting flued out.
You finna ball, feeling like I'm in snowfall.
All y'all living for likes and follows.
All my bullets hollow, my bitch gon' swallow.
Happily, now download the app for free and spark the treat.
What's he?
as fancy by Bruiser Wolf and Fat Ray.
Bruiser Wolf is hilarious.
Bruiser Wolf.
I thought that was hilarious.
I thought he was like trying to impersonate Sugar Free.
Yeah, I can see why you would go.
I see why your brain would go there.
Yeah.
Like, is this like a spoof of Sugar Free?
You would probably actually really like Bruce.
Oh, I'm going to check this shit out.
Yeah.
You would probably really like this.
No, I'm going to check this shit.
Yeah.
It's Detroit shit.
Play this shit.
You would like this shit.
Anyway, Bruiser Wolf, fancy.
Got you.
Check out the album now.
I was going to play this last week, but...
You play that record?
You going to play that last week?
I don't know Bruiser.
Oh, that's your man.
I don't know him.
I'm going to get familiar, though.
You familiar with Bruiser?
No, I don't.
I said, I'm going to get familiar.
And the Punisher?
Yeah.
I see what I'm saying.
Promo.
I'm going to Leon Thomas Show.
Song is party favorite.
It's my shit, right?
Yeah, I might get low on the two-year hiatus.
Marrying Betty, who's always complaining.
Who keys on my cars and tears up our payments?
And spend her in cash like she the one who made it.
Then tells me she's sorry and fucks me like she really means it.
I let her draw the Bentley once and told her she could keep it.
She be keeping secrets.
And that is not a secret.
But you know what they say sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, she better keep it.
She better keep it.
But for now, all she wants is party.
Favour us party.
Favour us party.
Favour us party.
Some of you
All the favors that I'm doing, you know it's all for my favorite.
Girl, you're high everything, not just high maintenance.
High class, and you showing up high.
High heels, boots, high, then Mary J.
Blanche.
And the worst part about it is, you barely say hi.
Even if their confidence is up to the sky.
Knowing that you just magnify eyes.
It's a shame your high horse don't got a passenger side.
You the prize if it's ride or die, then I'm still alive.
Been popping prescriptions that was never prescribed.
Got you giving descriptions that you can't even describe.
If you're her enemy, no kumbaya.
It's all cooped to grasp.
Walk around this bitch like my shoes untied.
This bitch so bad that she looks sexy in a zoot entire.
Fuck her once you two alive.
Break her heart and suicide.
She gon' pop her with a richer nigga.
Don't be too surprised.
But I swear that you my favorite.
Both catching feelings, damn, I guess it's contagious And I'm just mutt focused on the paper How you think I could afford on your party friend?
I do way too many favors party
As Leon Thomas and Big Sean, party favors.
Sean ripped that too.
E-Ba.
I'm so glad someone brought that Andre Flow back that no one ever touched again.
Yeah.
That was a fire.
Fire burst.
Big Mel.
Mine is K Trinada featuring Lucky Day.
It's called Look Easy.
Stay
higher, higher, higher, higher, high.
Feeling candy, why
shit get dicey, I stay ice and cool.
I'll let you night book like it's golden jewels.
You see, I'm ready to make a pool.
Just playing, winning like I made the rules.
Make it look easy.
So make it look easy.
Make it look easy.
We make it look easy.
Make it look easy.
So make it look easy.
Make it look easy.
I don't
cry to my forehead.
Stay a bit higher, higher, higher, higher, fire.
Yeah,
yeah.
I feel him stirring from across the room.
He's got it all at the step in the soul.
You couldn't be me if you wanted to.
Yeah, yesterday's addition on the new.
Make it look easy.
So make it look easy.
Make it look easy.
We make it look easy,
make it look easy.
So make it look easy,
make it look easy.
Holly
hot,
I'm not feeling hot, higher, oh yeah.
Stay a bit higher, higher, higher, higher, higher.
Feeling in the dark,
yeah.
Yeah,
It's Keatronada, the lucky day.
Look easy.
I see you repping for the Canadian, Mao.
There you go.
Keatronada, Canadian.
Ketronada's Canadian.
It's a lucky day, yeah.
Yeah.
And it was fire.
And gay.
It's prime.
It's promo.
That's.
Oh, that's what you were saying.
Okay.
Y'all always think,
y'all gotta stop doing it.
Key Trinada and Lucky Day.
I stepped away, but that
was fire.
That sounds fine.
That's fine.
Yeah, it was cute.
A little summertime vibe.
Almost a hers.
Mm-hmm.
You know, the lucky day in her joint.
We're the first one.
Summer is her.
I wish she hurry up.
No, I don't want to.
I wish she hurry up.
Take your time.
I ain't rushing greatness.
When she comes, it's going to be you.
And we're summer.
She's talking ready to start.
We should get something new from her.
She got the single.
Her probably waiting to step on summer.
Everybody not like you, yo.
Everybody like you, yo.
No matter who out there at the moment.
Don't nah, nah.
Nah, nothing.
Nah, nah, nah.
Her better be aware of when Summer would like to drop.
She don't have to.
Yes, you do.
Why?
No, she don't.
They're different.
Different albums.
You can buy two demos a little bit.
You can buy two albums.
They're different in what?
Right.
Demos.
Levels.
I don't know how different the demos are.
What do you think the demos are?
I think her.
She's a little bit more
earthy.
earthy and like appeals to adults a little bit more.
I think Summer is a little bit more.
Man, her got the secret earthy hoes.
Summer got the overt earthy hole.
Okay.
I'm saying I this is different people.
That's different.
Because I'm just talking shit in a pot.
I think that summer will probably break 300,000 units week one.
And whoever.
Yes.
And keep going.
Yes.
And her.
What'd she do last time?
I think she was close last time.
Was she?
I think, but we can look it up.
And I think.
And
I think you need to be aware of anybody that can do 300 week one.
Why would anybody have to?
Why do they have to choose?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Summer ain't do nothing near that.
I remember her shit being hella.
She did 166.
166.
Yeah, yeah.
166.
Where did I get 300 from?
That's the hard thing about her.
Her didn't do 300.
Hers was hella low.
Oh.
Her was mad low because that was a topic here for a while.
Yeah.
She might have done like 50,000 or something like that.
It was low.
Okay, well, I could see summer breaking 250 then.
Let me bring it down.
Nah.
Shit.
You think she's hotter now than she was going into the last album?
I don't think that her album sales week one will be predicated on heat.
I think Summer is out of the I gotta be hot to sell.
See, I think once you start talking to anything over 200, it's predicated on heat.
No, I thought Jeezy could have done 250 when his heat was gone up.
I'm taking it to Ancient Dinosaur time.
Yeah, we're talking.
That's a whole different.
Yeah.
I think summer could do 250.
I think, honestly, if you're talking anything over 150, it got to have some heat.
I think 150.
150 for summer.
So you think she goes down?
Yeah, I think she does, too.
Oh, y'all got summer.
But I love it.
I love summer.
I just don't think she...
I think she's been quiet.
Don't worry.
She will learn.
This is like that Wayne in his prime thing.
Y'all doing it again?
Hey.
Hey, before we leave, can y'all just stand on the fact that you said it and i'll shut up i didn't say he was in his prime i said he has uh plateaued but
don't worry i'm gonna go but the plateau you gotta still be at your prime level right
like go off
yeah because the argument was peak versus plateau i think he i think he was spitting i think he still raps for sure i think he was spitting i just think that his
production which you're right falls on him i think wayne can still put out an album on the level of those other albums that we love him for but he needs the right team.
He has the talent to still do it.
There's artists that don't have that talent anymore, no matter what team you put them with.
And I don't put Wayne in that category.
I agree with what he's saying.
The niggas that make their cereal with the milk first.
I don't know any of those people.
You pour the milk and put a little ice cube in there.
I don't know what you're doing.
Put the ice cube to make it a little bit more.
You put ice in his milk, too.
You put ice in his shit, too.
My mother do that shit.
You You do that shit?
I used to.
No, Freeze, he's in the soft guy era, so he warmed the milk up.
I believe that.
He warmed the milk in the microwave and put some honey in it.
Yeah.
You're a heathen, yo.
Freeze, you a freak.
Is it bad for men to have like a soft guy?
Is there a soft guy era for men?
Yes, nigga, now.
I'm in it.
Right now.
Freeze is in it.
I just love my family.
I just want to chill home.
I don't care about the world.
I'm out of shit.
My girl was talking to me so rough the other day.
I was just like,
rough as in message or tone?
Tone.
I was just like, oh, the old me.
Oh,
put that shit on me.
You'd be like, oh,
that's because you know your foot ain't healed all the way yet.
Hilarious.
I don't need my mouth is a whole boy.
We can see.
I just like, yeah.
You can see tonguey.
We can see.
Look, I'm just like, yo.
You got it?
The old me.
I want you to let her have it.
I want to be in my soft guy era.
My wife, too, nigga.
She was talking about.
You're in your soft guy era for sure.
Maybe he's not.
You got the shorts.
Maybe soft guy.
You got shorts, huh?
Maybe, yeah, right.
Salmon.
Salmon.
Salmon.
Salmon.
You got to put the LA.
Lululemon is in the soft guy era.
Maybe
soft era means something different for men than it does for women then.
Oh, it does, for sure.
Yeah, got to me.
So, what does it mean for men then?
Less gardening.
For women, it means like you letting the man take control.
You don't want nothing to do with that.
For the men, you just want to be pampered and taken care of.
Oh, okay.
That's what the women, that's it, right?
For women?
Women just want to be aloof and not worry about nothing
and be led by a man strong enough to where they're able to be their soft self and not have to wear the hardcore exterior that they present with.
I think for men it just means not fucking
too much, just grinding your hands to the nubs.
For men, it's just being rich.
Just relax.
Well, yes, that's the way to put it.
At least do it, though.
If you're rich, then I guess.
Okay.
That's a terrorist.
That's a what they are, right?
That's crazy.
That is kind of.
That's disgusting.
I guess it also could be if you find a sugar mama.
You could be a little bit more.
Well, I think soft, I think that always involves money.
But if you involve it, no, that's not.
Soft girl era does not involve
involve money.
We'll add another hour to this podcast.
Okay, nope.
If you lie like that, you're doing.
Are you kidding?
You're full of shit.
Mel, come on, for real.
It doesn't.
Yes, it's specifically about that.
No, it ain't specifically, but it goes.
Big hand and little hand are you kidding they first cousins they're real close
they are they west virginia they're in the room with each other
they're they're in the room with each other but it doesn't necessarily mean that when women when women are saying you know like you know I feel comfortable to be my softest self, it's because I feel a sense of security.
What provides the security?
I'm not doing that to Mel.
Y'all listen to Mel.
I ordered food already.
I'm good.
I already ordered some food.
No, it just offers a woman the chance to be her softest self and feel like she is secure in her relationship.
Not worried about anything.
Just not worried about anything.
Mel, what girl is with a broke nigga is in her soft girl?
What girl is secure?
I personally don't.
What woman that don't have to worry about anything?
One of those things is financial stuff.
So when you don't have financial cares or worries, then that means that homeboy has stepped in and taken that worry away from you.
That's maybe one way of looking at it, but not necessarily.
What's the other way?
That's just one of the things.
What's the other way to look at it?
Okay.
I'll put it to you like this.
I have a girlfriend who was very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very fucking tough.
Her exterior, everything about her was just combat and fucking fight because no motherfucker ever made her feel confident and
confident and comfortable and allow where she could feel vulnerable and feel like he wasn't gonna go anywhere.
So the man that she ended up marrying him, marrying, that's what he did for her.
He made her feel soft and secure and that no matter how she showed up, no matter what insecurity she displayed,
he wasn't going anywhere.
He was not.
I don't even know who you are.
He wasn't broke.
I don't even know Hector.
Yo, thank you for your contribution today.
Honestly.
It's really great that
we could help amplify the woman's voice.
I know you had enough.
What'd you say?
We had enough of the woman's voice.
I got it.
No, no.
We always want to help amplify the woman's voice.
You did it.
You did it.
Hey.
Hello, Tammy Lamb.
I know.
Say, hello,
Yeah, like when this dropped, Chris niggas was like, yo, there's a Mr.
Carter sample somewhere laying around.
How appropriate.
Too leave forever for me to use.
I heard somebody say, Church, I'm gonna need a suit.
I'ma need a coupe.
I would need a roof.
Flying to beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle juice.
That nigga made us say Beetlejuice.
Three times.
It's dangerous.
Three times.
Dangerous game.
Oh, my lord.
Yeah, Stevie does.
Stevie C Everything.
Man, I got summer hating on me.
Cause I'm hotter than the sun.
Got spring hating on me.
Cause I ain't never sprung.
Winter hatin' on me.
Cause I'm colder than y'all.
And I would never, I would never, I would never fall.
I'm being hated by the seasons.
So fuck y'all hating for no reason.
Hot and real.
Around the world and I'm back again.
Who's been asking about me in case you want to be rich
I can real
around the world and I'm back again
Who's been asked about me in case you want to remember the problem?
Oh, how about you?
Oh, I thought you probably
tell us what Jay-Z did no no no so you know what the real problem is with Wayne and this is he's been finding studios No, no, it's honestly it is
That's funny.
That's funny Wayne don't rap about shit.
That's really.
Yo, I was about to say, that song that we just heard, he wasn't spitting nothing crazy.
The raps from the earlier album that we heard are much better than those.
But on that album, he did it.
No, he went crazy.
No, he did.
Very, very dark.
Not a lot, though.
That's not a lot.
On Carter 3?
Yes.
You know way more about Wayne than me, but Carter 3 was, he had conceptual songs on that album.
A couple of songs.
Overall, he does not rap about shit.
And it's hard to stay current and do that when you're just putting words out there, putting words together.
Just rapping.
You're just rapping.
Just rapping.
You're just rapping to a beat.
He's basically, and this, oh, they're going to kill me.
Almost.
We're going to end the pod.
They ain't going to hear this.
Shit.
Definitely.
He basically is Eminem just not as technical.
M do that.
Just at a very technical level.
You were right.
They are going to kill you.
M does it too.
Just technical, putting words together.
Hey, Tanner.
No, no, no.
Hey, Tanner, you we good?
We good.
Hey, Tanner, send this to M and them.
Yeah, man.
Put this in there.
Put this in the middle.
Don't see me in the clip, too.
Like, you could cut right here that side of the bottom.
Yeah, no, on God.
On God.
I'm telling you, bro.
And I love it.
Right in the start of this time, T-Bay.
Yo, we want to thank our special guest, Jeremy Heck.
For sure.
Very seldom can I meet someone for the first time and their voice grace these microphones.
So it shows how I feel about this guy.
One of my favorite white guys.
Not Parks, but one of my favorite white guys in the game.
I want to thank my sister, Mel.
Hey.
Nigga on the head with this one.
I'm about to.
Hey,
let's go.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
We bid you a due farewell.
Adios are dirty.
Asta La Vista.
Au R voir.
So long goodbye.
What simple head knot will suffice?
Ayy.
And if I got this
Remember, life is a series of moments
and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we
got.
Until next time.
Please say the motherfucking name.
So bitch, why the fuck is you tripping?
I'm taking these chances.
What else?
What else?
You guys said Wade couldn't do hooks.
What about nothing?
You ain't got nothing on me.
I get money like a motherfucker.
He get a couple hooks.
But I'm just saying, overall, he's not known as the hook guy in his career.
Oh, we're doing Potter University.
All right.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, stay.
What he said, he can never do it.
What y'all think is going on?
Let's bring it up.
He can't do hooks.
Okay.
But he got a couple.
Don't mean he's known for his hooks.
Ice, you just getting a lot of bad takes off in the last second of this part.
And because it's the end.
All right, go ahead.
Give me five Jay-Z hooks that he did himself that are fire hooks.
Oh, you just moved the goalposts.
I just said he can't do hooks like that.
But that don't mean you doing the hook means that's where we're basing this.
He's the comment we said, Wayne doing the hook.
We were talking about Wayne doing hooks.
He named a Wayne hook that he did, and I'm like, You could still be a great rapper not being able to do hooks.
Okay, and picking a hook or a feature hook is not, I'm talking about you.
I remember the era, I was around for the era where producers are saying to get a Jay-Z placement, send him a beat with a hook on it.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's okay to say
at all.
Well, then I'm talking about
identifying a good hook.
That's what I meant.
So when I
say somebody can't make a hook, it means they can't identify a good hook.
Make a hook and identifying a hook mean two totally different things.
Hove don't want to do his hooks neither.
You had no fight for me.
Okay.
But he's going to identify absolutely
good court or pay for it.
Yes.
Okay.
Mel, what do you think about Hove's hook making?
Before we.
Honestly, we got to get to the bottom of it.
As a woman.
I think it's fantastic.
I don't know.
I think that sums it up.
Yeah.
They put you in the back of the big pimping yacht.
I was not in the back.
You wasn't in the front?
Yes, I fucking.
You know who stopped you in the back?
The little boat that be on the side of the yacht that you were in the back of the boat.
I was not on the front.
You know who was in the front.
Don't play.
Who was in the front?
Who was in the fucking front?
Oh, my God.
She knows who was in the front.
Yeah, we know.
Me.
I didn't even know know there was other verses on that song.
Anderson Lee, MTV, Jam of the Weed, made my money too long to get it.
But I'm still sitting there.
Come on, man.
You know what's in the front of that boat.
In front of that yacht.
Are you saying Gloria?
Are you saying it?
Gloria wasn't there.
No, she was there.
No, not when you was there.
No,
Gloria was there.
Not earlier today.
Gloria was in Miami.
There were two different shoots.
There was the Trinidad shoot and there was the Miami shoot.
That's what we're telling you.
She was not in Trinidad, and I was not not in Miami shining.
That's what we're saying to you.
Trinidad came to her.
Yeah.
You wasn't there.
That accord couldn't make it to Trinidad.