Episode 831 | "Blessed and Highly Favored"

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Yes, sir.

Yo, Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

Yep.

It's just one of them days, like Monica said.

Like Gunica said.

Turn me up in the headphones.

Are we live?

We live.

She don't like that.

The Gunica shit, right?

Yeah, she don't like that.

Say my bad.

I apologize.

She will see you.

She will see you.

It's funny as shit.

She will see you.

She don't like that Gounica shit, and she will see you.

She will let it be known.

Yeah, no.

Monica.

There you go.

Anyways.

Hi.

Yeah.

What's up?

You want to fresh off a boat?

Whoa, you doing that?

That's a little racist.

No, you do that.

That's not racist.

He's like a Puerto Rican drug dealer.

The first one.

No, not the drug dealer.

No, the nigga.

The one that come out like the one you don't see.

You don't see him.

You don't see him.

No, you don't see him.

Come out the water as long.

You only see him at a baby shower or something.

Cafe.

That be the nigga that they got to get the drone for.

Yeah.

They got to follow people with how they call Sama.

His height is that tall.

We got Hefe and the hippie on the couch.

Only 50 and up.

It'd be these ones.

The festival is over.

They get the drugs over.

Still flying high.

Light and love, motherfuckers.

Oh, yeah, she was rolling.

Oh, yeah, I seen you on the Instagram.

You was outside.

This nigga got her Jenny from Forrest Gump dress on.

Jenny,

Jenny.

Yo, you really

straightforward.

I ain't going to hold you.

You hippied out.

Super hippie out.

Gray socks?

Did you shout out?

You are hippie tree.

I did.

I did.

I did shout.

Thank God.

I did shout.

I shouted.

Just a little bit.

A little bit.

It was a little.

That's funny.

That girl would cosplay anywhere.

Shut the fuck out.

That girl.

This is me.

This is me.

Good, calm on.

J-Lo.

This nigga's crazy.

This is me.

Yo.

What?

When you dating, like.

Getting into Mal State Lunch.

Record time.

Like, if you start dating like a corporate dude, like a strict corporate dude, do you modify?

No.

Not even a little bit.

Code switch.

Absolutely not.

Excuse me?

I'll tell you off camera.

Who believes?

You can't now.

Who believes in the case?

And that's the problem with getting into Mel's dating life because she likes that shit.

So she's going to throw y'all something that's going to throw y'all tailspin.

And now you gotta do it now.

But here's the thing is I can be all those things.

Listen to that, man.

Listen to the metaphor.

I said I'll tell y'all camera.

This is what I said.

I remember when you were dating a Christian dude.

You're not Christian, right?

I did.

Just answer his question, please.

You was walking around with a Bible

bag.

That was the whole thing.

Can you just answer his question so we can speed through your dating life?

Turned into super Christian

during the course of the relationship, and suddenly I found myself, where?

In a cult.

Well, I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about when I saw you in the red carpet maybe

10 years ago?

Longer.

12.

Ish.

Ish.

And I'd known you for a while at that point, and you were always like, I'm more spiritual than religious.

I don't do the religious thing.

I was not.

They said, males, please stop talking over men, yo.

You think that's wise?

I don't endorse those comments.

Well, I will, however, say.

I was saying you was acting a little different.

They said, how are you?

You said, first of of all, I want to give honor to God.

Oh, God.

You said,

how are you doing?

You said, hey, I am.

She said, I am blessed and highly favored.

I swear to God on my children.

She said, blessed and highly favored.

She put a little something twang on it, too.

I was like, where in Canada do they talk like that?

You got to watch you too, though.

You was watching a little bit too much, nigga.

Huh?

You was watching.

I'm going to talk to you later about that.

No, we were friends.

I was friendly.

We were friends with Red Carpenter.

You know what I'm talking about.

Don't let that step on.

We're joking on Mel right now.

No, we're not joking on Mel, nigga.

We're bragging on Mel right now.

I got you, ma'am.

Nigga, she could get in whatever situation she in and cosplay for the cover situation.

I'm not saying she's cosplaying.

I'm just saying you do adapt.

Yeah, she can adapt, nigga.

Salamander.

Yo, why do women do that?

I love it.

Salamander.

I mean, isn't adaptability a form of support?

Amen.

Amen and fucking hallelujah.

Yo, using that red curve, using the trumpet away.

I didn't know who you was, man.

It was beautiful, though.

I like to watch you

shapeshift.

Wow.

Jesus on the man.

Tell them what you want.

You all know that song?

I do not.

No.

She got blessed and highly papered down.

That was it.

Yeah, that was it.

That was it.

Yeah.

It's okay.

So when did you drop out?

Huh?

When she left the relationship, man.

I'm asking.

I escaped the cult.

Short form.

I escaped the cult.

That was basically it.

So maybe, I don't know, two weeks after you saw me?

I can't be inside, Carl.

I ask you again.

Who believes, Bill?

Don't worry about it.

Don't even worry about it.

I got it.

We're going to have such a great time.

Like, I woke up and missed y'all today.

I was so eager.

I was so eager.

We were debating about whether that was a bad word.

And I was so eager to get here

to just see each one of y'all, man.

Y'all are fucking awesome.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, it's beautiful, man.

Touching.

Really?

On God.

Lying.

I'm not lying.

Yo, bro, it's okay.

I promise you, I'm not lying.

We love you.

Okay, just get ahead.

Like, yo, you know what?

Amongst men, you're not supposed to do that.

You're spending too much time on emotions.

We got it.

Let's move on.

That's the problem with men.

I agree.

I agree.

That's the problem with men.

I agree.

I agree.

You should be able to tell your brother, I love you, and I missed you, and I really like spending time with you.

Amen.

The last one?

No, no.

I like hanging.

I like when we hang out.

The first two is cool.

Oh, okay.

The other part is implicit.

Don't say that.

It's not like...

I really enjoyed this time together.

That's a lot.

Like, I don't really.

Hey, I love hanging out with you guys.

You can't do that?

No, no, no.

Yo, get that shroom shit out of here right now.

I'm gonna share.

Yo,

that is hilarious.

Two kids, and uh, I also have 50% custody of the kids.

And uh, well, if you know anything about that

you know

that's a lot of custody.

I've actually like sat down and worked it out.

That's half of my time.

And that's real, that's real time.

You don't get back.

It's real.

Again, I love my kids very much.

But it's time to go to your fucking mom's house.

Oh, wait.

I don't have my wife here right here.

Never before have I found a clip more appropriate with how I feel right now.

Oh, this is great.

Man, I don't give a fuck.

I don't care.

We know.

Okay.

We know.

No, it was real.

That nigga don't listen and is handsy and abusive, kind of.

No, for real.

All weekend long, I be clowning y'all about the girl dad shit.

Boy dad

is, he thinks it's playing around.

Just punch you in your face.

Heavy handed.

Punch on your dick.

Bow!

Heavy-handed.

Like a hook.

You just, you laying there.

He do some type of double wrestling move, fist.

Bow!

Right.

Axel did.

The axle slam.

Yeah.

Then you just walk into the kitchen.

He just right hook, left hook in the back.

Bow!

I'm like, yo, I'm going to hurt you.

You know how to beat that?

You know how to beat that?

Give him another one to play with.

Let him be the

fist.

Another what?

This whole situation.

This sounded crazy.

You can't.

Oh, okay.

No, true.

I'm dead ass.

That's not where my brain went.

My brain was to dangle your little ass upside down, but you can't do that.

So I try to be mature now.

I'm talking to him, like communicate, like I learned in couple therapy.

Hey, man, why are you doing that?

Why do you keep hitting me?

Shut up, bat.

Because

I don't want to watch what's on TV.

Nah.

All right.

All right, cool.

So he beat my ass all weekend last night.

Couldn't wait to drop that little demon off.

A terror, a menace.

And I said, you know what?

Tomorrow, I'm going to do what I hate to do.

I'm going to just call his mom.

See if we can get some consistent consistency in both households.

See how she's dealing with this.

Oh, man.

I got to see how she's dealing with it.

I know that she just had a baby.

It says, you got a sister over there.

You can't just be running around hitting on everybody.

I think me and Sing are going to have a nice, mature, adult talk about how both households could join together and fix the problem.

Yo, did you ever see the meme?

He might be 10 times worse at Centax.

That's what I was thinking.

Listen, it's a meme going around.

It's funny on the internet.

It'll be like, yo, the father.

It's funny on the internet.

No worries.

My man.

Explain the meme.

Yo, dog, the father be like, yo, do X, Y, Z.

And the little girl start tearing up.

And then the mother say, do X, Y, Z 10,700,000, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, the times.

And the little boy be like, this.

They don't give a fuck, nigga.

they scared of you they not scared of the mom i'm worried

i'm worried about the the her household the kids in school my well-being

she call and say

wait he's doing what over there

he'll do that that behavior is non-existent over time i've never seen yeah you've never seen that respect actually he listens over there he's very well behaved so what is happening over there i'm like you got to be fucking kidding it could be reverse.

You got it, yeah.

So then she says, yo,

I'm going to have a talk and I'm going to straighten him out.

We're going to call you back.

Don't you know they both called back on the speakerphone?

He apologized?

No, he ratted.

Oh, shit.

She said, Lex, why are you hitting daddy?

He told.

All the dad shit I be doing on the phone.

Well, daddy punches shit.

Dad dangled me, man, dragged me.

And then he

walled one a fucking stitch.

I mean, you snitched first, though.

He's telling me.

But he's telling stuff I'm doing playing around.

I'm ratting on what's happening when we're not playing around.

I'm playing out of the day, too.

He thinks it's playing.

My turn is fighting.

Look, my turn to play, nigga.

Bow.

Right.

He thinks it's playing.

Well, if I hit you here, I see how you react.

Cool.

Exactly.

He ain't got a job.

He don't have to differentiate between work time and playtime.

Everything's playtime.

You should give him a job.

Dr.

Shea Brown here.

I've never been so happy to drop a kid off at their fucking mom's.

He's going to punch the code in her.

I'll do it.

Turn around.

Bye.

Fuck it anyway.

You need to wait for me to go in.

No, I didn't do that.

You got to wait.

When it's your kid.

When it's your kid, you got to wait.

Yeah, you do.

You do.

Go on, Marco.

It's legal.

You're You're right.

It's legal.

Who you gonna wait for?

I sped off once.

Because I ain't like how she did it the last week or two weeks before.

She slammed the door too fast.

I had to get adjusted to the door slamming fast.

So I got a gas pedal.

That's the equivalent.

You're lucky I don't got the fucking, I don't do what the Puerto Ricans do to their car.

My car makes some noise when I hit that phone.

Them civics.

Anyway,

series.

Shit's gonna go nowhere.

Sorry, I'm long-winded today, man.

I missed the game.

And it's hot outside.

You know what I mean?

It's tough.

80 and up, 80 and up out there.

Hey.

Shout out to first and last time listeners, wherever you might be listening from.

Everybody listening with their lady right now.

Love is in the air.

Love is in the air.

Eagles.

Let's make a live forever

and ever.

Let's make it alive forever

and never.

Don't let her love me.

Wishing I never found you.

Who got this thing about you?

Listen, man, I don't care.

I come from the mixtape era, nigga.

A good blip, but it's hot out.

Fuck you talking about, nigga.

I come from the T-Pain over Marco Elementary era, nigga.

That was just a couple years ago.

I don't care.

Mike, check, mic, check.

for the ladies.

And it is me too.

about it.

Shout out to all the stuff you

still want me

to do.

Yes, sir, sir.

Wait, get the fuck up out there.

She was out scotching that.

Hey, girl, watching them.

Couldn't let them eye high.

Hunt back, try to hunk that.

Yes,

Wherever you might be listening from

the whole New York City, Big Jersey, Big Jersey.

Tryna lock me out, try and lock it in.

Sling shot and them, slingshot and them dice all day.

Kept look shot, nice all day.

Bright cloth, whole Philadelphia was poppin' out there.

Y'all was pop locking in, carboard boxing in.

I was up the center, three beats, lockin' in.

Started car hoppin' in.

Got a jump of passion for some barkin' them.

Other jacks looking so started sparking them.

I had the 410 gig, my nickel lockin' men.

Cow made front page for the spark from Mira.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

2000 was a good year when I got that DMC retail, man.

Shout out to old Philly.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.

Shout out to all the parents out there.

Let's keep this applause going for the greatest crew in the entire universe.

Stop playing, man.

Y'all could have been anywhere in the world, but y'all are here with us.

And we certainly appreciate that.

It's beautiful outside.

It is.

Excuse me, sir.

Beautiful outside.

Excuse me, sir.

I'm sorry.

You could have been in Toulon.

You could have been in Cabo somewhere.

You could have been in Miami Wet Willies.

You could have been in the booby track.

You could have been anywhere in the world.

It's been a Martha's Vineyard.

They might be.

They listening to us.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

The Bahamas.

Yeah.

Ireland.

Yeah, stop playing with us, nigga.

Global.

Worldwide.

Shout out to IOU.

That's a good time to IOOF.

Oh, man.

What episode is this?

831.

Welcome to episode 831.

He's saying 800 is kind of moving fast a little bit.

Go there, right?

831.

Welcome to episode 830.

831.

Yo, you didn't acknowledge Mel.

What?

I didn't acknowledge anybody.

After you play the drops, you usually acknowledge everyone in the room.

Flip and Mel.

That was good.

Okay.

Acknowledge.

Flip.

Flip and

mel, mel.

There we go.

Mel.

Okay, gang, get to it.

You're never getting a drop now.

I'm not stopping.

Now you're never.

You're never.

I accepted that.

That never happened.

You know, I accepted that.

You know I accepted that.

You're never getting a drop down.

Only because y'all are the two thirstiest for attention.

You're never getting to drop down.

Now it don't matter now.

That's your man.

You was getting him a pound earlier.

Now I'm a bazooka at you now.

What the fuck?

Anyway, I just said the best brew in the world.

That starts with Big Male, fresh from Philadelphia.

Hootie hoo.

How are you?

I'm feeling amazing.

Good.

The shrooms have worn off, but boy, was it a smile in the motherfucking ass.

You'll find something else in the kitchen to do the job, though.

I mean,

sure, yeah, but it was fantastic.

I mean, do we want to finish the 831?

Yeah.

Flip is here.

Ish is here.

Ice is here.

Dr.

Mark Lamont Hill is here, Parks is here, Poe is here, Corey is here, Amani is here earlier and earlier in the summertime.

Yes, sir, earlier and earlier, Erickson is here.

I think Keeb and Ian are still here.

I think Savon and Tanner still work here.

And last but not

least, each and every one of you guys are out there.

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Big Mail.

Okay,

Thank you, Dr.

Mark Lamont Hill, for arranging some compound passes for me and for your closest friends.

Actually, I rolled with a larger crew, so I had to get more.

So shout out to Jazz from Live Nation because she filled in the blanks.

Nice.

But the crew just grew.

So you needed more than the four tickets that Mark got you?

He actually got me five.

How many did you need on your own?

I needed more than the five tickets that Mark gifted you.

Yes, I ended up needing 10 and media passes.

God damn.

But it ended up working out just fine.

It was great.

Okay.

Sounds like it.

It was great.

It was so muddy out that they had a couple extra tickets.

No, no, that is not what happened.

So shout out to the organizers of the Roots Picnic.

Saturday was a fucking shit show.

The rain, it was cold.

It was blowing in sideways.

They didn't let anybody in for like the, you know, they delayed letting people in for three hours.

People were standing in line.

Anybody who fucking soldiered through that, like more power to you.

That shit was crazy.

But what?

When did the other people get invited?

Like, because you didn't have no tickets.

I'm not over there.

You're not just going to squeak.

You started with zero tickets.

How did the party amass to 10 even once you got five?

Okay, so here is the situation.

I was not the only one who had a beat on stuff.

So we were kind of like working in tandems.

My other girl had like Connect,

and then my other girl had Connect.

So we were just kind of compiling resources.

And buying tickets was just out of the question.

Absolutely.

The fuck?

Curious.

Did I answer your question?

Please.

All right, great.

Okay.

So Saturday, everything got delayed by three hours.

There was like swamps everywhere.

It was fucking freezing.

It was raining and shit like that.

We finally get in.

They got to work on that.

The whole organization, just the line separation, it was

on the rain.

Y'all got to fix this rain on the motor.

No, no, but here's the thing: is they knew everybody knew it was going to be rainy on that day.

The forecast had been out for like over a week.

Okay, everyone knew.

Let me shout out to Live Nation, also to Root Screw and everybody for being so generous with us and giving us these tickets on an amazing performance.

They allow her.

Yeah,

never she lets them have it.

Well, that's not how it goes when you're gifting it.

Nigga, I love it.

Tickets.

No, you.

This is between her and Mark.

I'm so embarrassed.

This is between her and Mark.

I bad y'all.

I haven't said anything yet.

I haven't gotten a chance to say anything.

That was a little bit.

I haven't gotten a chance to say anything.

So we get in and go straight to the Jeezy concert.

I was looking for you and Missing Piece, but after trying to get through the line, I was like, oh, there's no way Ice would have done this.

There's just no way.

Like one of my girls, she had a her boyfriend who was with us.

We used him as a battering ram and just followed right behind him.

And he got us right past everybody.

So anyways, we go see.

Some men do have uses sometimes.

Yeah.

You said it, I didn't.

Anywho, went and saw Jeezy.

Shit was lit.

Went to the main stage.

Glorilla was performing.

That shit was lit.

Went to Compound, went to Gold.

Had a really great time, but the weather just was a lot.

Sunday was much better.

So we went, had a good time on Sunday.

The highlight for me was Lenny fucking Kravitz.

That shit was amazing.

He's such a rock star.

And I was like flying by that point.

Shrooms, weeds.

I hope you flew high.

You will never see it.

That's the last flight.

That is the last flight.

I hope you really enjoyed that Lenny show,

Missy.

You will never get a ticket.

32B.

My favorite shit about Mel is she has no clue.

She realizes that.

She has no idea.

She's just on a cloud somewhere.

That's my girl.

Anyway, you were saying, so Lenny was to die for.

Lenny was lit.

Lenny was so fantastic, and it was just.

And that's good for you, though.

Oh, yeah.

What?

That's good for you, you niggas you stayed up all night worrying about this shit you got depressed over this shit

and she comes in and shits on it immediately i'm not shitting on it at all

that's so good for niggas like him how do you guys hear me shitting on this how do you how do you hear me shitting on this i was just it's your world no and also like fix the rain no also like no

The organizers, they apologize to everybody about Saturday.

I'm saying I had a good time regardless of the weather.

You had to dress for it.

And I had these boots up to here.

They it perfect for what I was walking through.

Nice.

Yeah, it was it was great regardless of the weather.

I kind of actually liked it because of the weather because it gave a real Woodstock vibe.

That's the quickest remix I ever heard.

Go ahead and hit them over with a little preview of the remix.

It was giving Woodstock 2025.

So I really liked it.

Nice.

I really liked it.

That's a good bookend.

Yeah, that's great.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I'm glad you enjoyed it i'm mad that i missed it yeah but also that nigga tired he drank

he won't answer that call

i loved it they told me not to give one tickets

i was told not to give them tickets they were put to good use so thank you mark i'm glad you enjoyed yourself thank you that's all about

ultimately i appreciate it

the five too right ten that's good man yeah i did it was it went it went really well um yeah and i had a little bit of a misconnection too we know that's what we keep saying.

That's what we see.

We keep trying to

highlight that.

But anyway, go ahead.

There was this guy, and he was like, he was just sitting there.

He was so cool.

He was dressed in all black.

He was smoking his cigar, and he knew every single Lenny Kravitz song word for word.

I was like, wow.

He looks so cool.

I want to talk to him.

I feel like I remember a similar story from last year's Respecting.

Yeah, but this time it wasn't my ex.

I actually did not know this man.

Okay.

Yeah.

So you didn't go and say hi?

No, because you know, because he was vibing so hard to Lenny Kravitz.

I just didn't want to be the person that interrupts your fucking vibe.

Weren't you vibing too?

I know what it is.

I was vibing too, but I got eyeballs.

No.

That's how the festival loves certain things.

You know, you're tongue-kissing at the festival.

Yeah.

Damn.

I just wanted him to have his vibe.

He was having my vibe.

And then I was going to talk to him afterwards, but he booked it out.

I was like, oh, okay, misconnection.

Whatever.

That was it.

That was my time.

Maybe he watches the show and he'll see this.

I think that's exactly what we just saw.

It was a Craigslist misconnection

on the biggest broadcast in

the world.

I ain't saying shit.

Stupid ass fans.

I'm like, Joe, stop painting her in that light.

Nope.

She's an artist herself.

Nope.

I'm letting you guys know Cliff Notes of my weekend, and it was fun, and I had a great time.

Well, that's how I'm glad that you have fun.

And we're happy that you had fun.

Thank you.

Thank God.

Thank you.

Make some noise for that.

Make some noise for male having fun, man.

Shout out to Quest Love, baby.

I'm getting all the roots together.

Got my teeth.

Yeah, whatever shrooms you took, that shit,

it's still in your system.

Nice.

It's still in your system, man.

Might be.

Might be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How was everybody else's weekend?

I already told y'all about mine.

I went to a Mets game for a while.

I break Saturday and do shit, Sunday, family shit.

So I was very excited.

I was in the house sick all weekend.

Yeah.

I was fucked up too.

Yeah, I was just filming.

I was filming this weekend.

It's fucked up.

You look like you just left a fab video.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was filming.

I put this on yesterday.

You got the jorts?

And I wanted to put it on.

Yeah, I wanted to put it on today.

You know what I mean?

JR and I came up with something, so it was pretty good.

Had fun.

Yeah.

Niggas going to be on your last when you get out.

Nah, stop it, please.

Please.

But the weekend was great.

Just spending time filming and getting content done.

And then, you know, looking forward for the week now.

Okay.

Okay.

That's dope, man.

Good stuff.

That's dope, man.

What did I do?

I went to.

Say something, nigga.

Say something?

I had a.

Oh, go ahead.

No, I'm waiting, but I just want to wait to start this show.

I'm going to start with everybody.

I mean, what did you do?

I'm probably moving forward.

No, no, no.

I want to hear it.

I'm just fucking with them.

Oh, Friday night.

I went to, I ended up going to this black silk and linen party my wife took me to.

Oh, nice.

It was.

That was freaky.

Man, all right.

Crushed our little week.

I actually had a great time.

It was out in Jersey.

I don't know Jersey, but

it wasn't that interesting, but I mean, it wasn't freaky interesting, but it was interesting.

It was fun.

And of course, everybody knows ish when I'm there, which was which was great.

I'm texting.

So, you know, everyone knows Ish at the old issue.

They knew Ish at the silky almond party.

Yo, at the black silky almond.

All the D niggas party.

I stopped texting him after a while because I was like, I don't want to blow up his phone at midnight.

But people was hitting me up, like, yo, I know Ish.

Tell Ish, I said, hey,

Ish knew my first wife.

Ish, he said, Ish knew my first wife, and then walked away.

I didn't know what that meant.

I can tell you.

I can tell you shit.

I can tell you what it meant.

The old school, like, British birdie.

He knew her.

Oh, yeah.

The way he looked, I didn't want to ask no follow-ups.

I texted Ish.

He was like, where are you at?

And you ain't answering no more.

So I was like.

Look at that nigga.

That thing is like fierce brawling.

Not at all.

I was like, yo, this is the most popular nigga in all of New Jersey.

I can't go nowhere without people asking me about it.

Ish, can you not play coy with us for a second?

Why do they know you at the all-black almondy niggas gala?

Silky, don't forget

the gala.

Joe, I lived in New Jersey for 50 years.

You talk too much.

I was outside for sure.

They know you everywhere-ish.

And

I've been around the hood niggas and the bougies.

Why?

He's a hood anomaly, that's why.

Yeah,

what have you been doing?

He's living, nigga.

I don't know what you're talking about.

He's mixy.

Just been out there.

You are mixy, though.

What's mixy about?

Nah, no, it's not for y'all.

He kind of had been keeping it to himself.

What are you talking about?

Growing up was mixy.

You think he traveled to all these circles, spreading it around?

Exactly.

I think he was keeping it.

He was like COVID, nigga.

He was like the human COVID.

Nigga, you everywhere.

Boy,

what's wrong with you?

Niggas are idiots, bro.

This nigga's a.

Kevin Tuck.

That's my man.

I personally think he was keeping it to himself.

Nobody got it.

Nah, ain't nobody get it.

Nah,

not my man.

Right, yeah, nah, nah.

Don't worry at all.

Then he's trying to act too cool, nigga.

They love you.

They know you, nigga.

There There was something wrong with your brain, yo, Jilly.

Something wrong with your mind, yo, for real.

How do you know some first wife, though?

I don't even know who the person is.

Okay.

Yeah, I ain't asked.

When he walked away, I would ask no more questions.

I ain't went no smoking.

But yeah, no, you used to pop people do that.

But it was dope.

Dope event, great people,

good for the community, all that stuff.

And then I didn't make it to Roost Picnic.

I had some family stuff I had to do.

I had to fly to Chicago on Sunday for an event.

So I missed all the dope stuff.

So that was it for me.

Oh, there's always next year.

That's true.

Yeah, I'll have plenty of tickets next year.

Neck.

They all staying right in my pocket, right?

To the neck.

Won't distribute these.

That's crazy, yo.

Well, what needs our attention most

is plenty to discuss.

My cash didn't go.

My cash at go.

Oh, for sure.

That's a fact.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

Let's get that moment.

Wait, what was y'all about?

That the Knicks would lose.

Here we go.

Yeah, sitting that thing right over.

Damn it.

What's your name on here?

Dr.

Mark Lamont.

Whoever sent you 5,000.

Right, exactly.

Slowly recouping.

Brick by brick, man.

I'm getting my shit back.

Let's see if he hit his limit yet.

Oh, yeah.

You know, that's his bag.

That's his bag.

It's just crazy.

Me too immediately.

I sent it.

You know what I learned about myself?

I don't like paying immediately.

We know.

Not only do I not like paying immediately.

I don't like y'all more

when y'all are right at my doorstep at 1201 for the money you're owed.

I don't.

I'm sorry.

That's part of the

hit point about the Celtics series.

Of course.

I dubbed it.

I dubbed it.

I'm cool, dog.

I just want to enjoy the game as a fan.

But then by the time we beat them, I was feeling myself when he hit me again about the pacers.

I said, put it all on the line.

I hate when you ask somebody, too, yo, what we doing?

They say, I don't know, no, you big money.

And no, no, no, just, let's do night little gentlemen, gentlemen bet.

Anyway, man, soon as that, he hit me, yep.

My Apple Pay still, your dog.

It's Monday.

Like, oh.

No one look thirsty, but you want your shit.

Part of it, that's part of the shit talking.

But that's the shit talking, too.

I just don't like it.

That's part of the, yeah, that's that's what I said.

That's part of the shit talking.

Yeah, like making the nigga pay, because it ain't about the money.

It ain't about the money.

I don't care about the money.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to donate this thousand dollars to

kids in Newark that need

prime gear.

Well, yeah, because they wouldn't buy it.

Who wouldn't buy it?

It's donated a lot.

I ain't going to tell you how much you don't.

Shut your fucking mouth and no.

Let you know.

Then I take it back.

I don't know what nobody does.

Freeze.

I told y'all, I just forgot the shit.

I'm sorry, it's freeze.

Yes, we already had this talk.

Highlighting it again.

Oh.

No, no, he's trying to get the heat off of them that's what he's trying to do i don't know i'm gonna take i'm gonna take some heat this episode i'm gonna take this heat and i'm ready for it and i'm ready for it but can i ask a question though please why you pay they bet so fast

you know you know why

as opposed to some other bets

what bet you talking about you had a bet with him you had a bet with me what bet i got with you uh it was some oh not a bet it was uh

the game shit whatever you did but it took a long time

it took a long time to get paid i don't understand what you're saying what money did i pay for you you paid them immediately when did i have money for you is my we did some shit up here we did some shit oh you called an x i think or something like that oh yeah that's what it was thank you oh i remember that and we had the hustle from 2020.

i just asked i don't wait

holy

we doing a show right now if you got a a gripe from 2021 it wasn't 21 but it wasn't a gripe

It's not a gripe.

Why do you remember that?

It was last year.

That year was foggy to me.

You crazy thing.

Last year shouldn't be so prominent on your brain.

But when I watch you turn right around and pay

immediately, it makes me say shit.

That's disgusting.

He can do that fast.

You know why I do that.

Well, I can do everything fast, but not when that's so nasty, what you just did.

It's awesome.

It's nasty what I did.

Ew.

It's nasty what I did.

You said why?

Ew.

What's your reason?

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Philip.

What's the reason?

I don't want to get at him.

And y'all in other niggas' business, too.

I don't want to get at him.

Because I can.

But it's just going to...

Let's keep the show going.

Yo, just pay your bets and congratulations.

Yo, I'll make sure to get that done today.

I didn't even...

I forgot about that.

Take care of my man Freeze.

I forgot about that $70.

What is it?

I forgot about that $65.

That's your man.

That's your man is a crazy.

20 years.

That man been coming to work for a year.

Yes, Track with that $75 on his mind.

I will fuck him up.

No, you you won't.

$75.

Yo.

It was a $75.

Yo, you were a $500.

You're a shapeshifter.

That is disgusting.

For real.

You like Neo in the main world.

I ain't going to hold you.

I'm going to get that too.

Yo, you think that?

You already did it.

No, it's coming.

No, no, it's coming your way.

You're going to pay him again.

You're going to pay him again.

You paid him already.

You paid it.

But you just took a longer time to pay him.

That's all I asked you why you take so long to pay certain niggas and not other niggas.

You paid him.

That was my question.

She's even madder now.

That's it.

I had to hawk down to get mine.

You was happy.

Yo, I'm going to sit there right now, Mark.

Let me look you up.

What is it?

Oh, I'm going to sit down.

You know what?

That's up, Mark.

Gregory Hines, nigga.

Mark is the new master.

I get that nigga like, don't get me started, nigga.

Oh, yeah.

You got that shirt?

Oh, that's a nice shirt.

Three, three times, three times.

Look out here, nigga.

Oh, man.

Joe Valley.

Yo.

Anybody out there is included.

If I have an outstanding balance, please, please let me know.

Okay, hold on.

You said it's included.

So that means, okay, good.

I'm proud of you.

I'm proud of you.

It's going to be one of them days.

I'm proud of you.

I'm here for it.

Because you be on your bullshit, but you know what?

I'm in too good of a mood.

So you don't even matter.

Nothing that happens today.

I'm in a great mood.

I think it's the attire.

I think, you know, the energy.

I like that, y'all.

Hold my hair.

Put my man name in the mix.

You try to stand on some bullshit.

But I'm happy you acknowledge it.

I want to do right by Ish2.

Ian paid me already.

Oh, shit.

Wait.

Wait.

That's why you be acting so cool.

You got paid.

I was cool when I did.

Ian paid me.

Let's go, Ish.

White man paid you, boy.

I was shucking, but I was shucking too.

Okay, Joe, you get shit?

Okay.

I like that.

You mean all of that was just.

We look crazy a little bit.

What topic do y'all want to talk about?

Is there a topic that needs our attention?

How about that?

A lot of topics need our attention.

Real quick, before we get into the

substance, this is Pride Month.

Not that it's not substantive, but I mean it's Pride Month.

Happy Pride.

So we should say Happy Pride.

Happy Pride in the LGBTQ community.

And I have a challenge to all of us.

How many months are niggas good?

Just June.

No.

Oh.

Wait, what else is it?

I may be wrong.

It's Men's Health Month.

Yes.

It's also Men's Health Month.

That is true.

Yes.

But in terms of,

yeah, sure.

Yes, absolutely.

Yeah, sure.

I'm not dismissing that.

I was thinking all about it.

I was thinking,

for this episode, because we say pause a lot.

For this entire episode, how about we see if we go the whole episode without saying pause?

Unpause.

And the first person that doesn't makes a donation

to LGBT organization.

I think that's great.

I don't agree.

No.

No, no.

I'm down for the challenge.

I think it's an interesting challenge.

Can we still snicker?

I'm insulted by the channel.

Do you think that we can't not say pause?

No, I don't.

Seriously?

As an entire crew?

Yeah, but they just directed the flip.

No, I think it's a flip.

I'm saying as a crew.

Who else do you think can't say pause?

I don't say pause or not.

You can't not say pause.

Tell the truth.

All of us, myself included.

That means everything.

I'm A.O.

You're going to take the challenge?

Yeah,

I don't view it as such a challenge.

I have no problem not saying pause.

Can we still laugh if we say pause?

And I'm going to say a bunch of gay shit.

My lucky challenge.

I've been waiting for this one.

Yeah.

I think it's not, you know.

Yeah, no, I'm cool.

All right, done.

But anyway, happy Pride Month.

Happy Pride Month.

And Happy Men's

Health Agency.

Oh, it's Men's Health Awareness Month?

Men's Health.

Yes.

Oh, Happy Men's Health Awareness Month for sure.

Yeah, we should definitely talk about that this month, too.

Dope.

Joe, we talked about the bet, but what we didn't talk about was how you actually feel about the Knicks breaking your heart like that.

They didn't break my heart.

They didn't break my heart.

Let's not get.

That last game was a little hopper.

I want to let you have your.

No, I mean, you were pretty intense about this.

Nixon six, Nixon seven, you know, we'll be the first team to come back.

Well, I'm a Die Hard Knick fan.

Yeah.

When it's over is when it's over.

Okay, so no bitterness.

No, no, no, no, no.

Listen.

Well,

I think that was a winnable game.

Let me start there.

I do think that that was a winnable game.

And there's a lot of people that didn't show up on the road.

A lot of damn people.

I'm not.

I'm not broke.

Damn.

And that's the story of it.

When you give up that many points in transition, you're not going to win that many points off turnovers.

See, I can waste a lot of time.

There's nothing you could do.

So, my takeaways, if I'm being serious for a second, I think Jalen Brunson needs to find ways to impact the game outside of scoring.

And I think that'll happen.

I think there's a lot to be said about Cat.

I think us and the Timberwolves kind of traded headaches a little bit.

You think?

And we watched that come to form with some of the things that I've been doing.

I think y'all got the best end of the stick, though.

Same.

There's a lot to be said about cat that I won't say

Mikkel Bridges fadeaways

in exchange for layups I think that needs to be talked about at some point the way Josh Hart disappeared I think needs to be talked about at some point

I'm not so mad at Tom Thibodeau Leon Rose or any of that even though I could see how he has questions coming his way.

They could utilize the bench a lot better.

You wouldn't fire Thibodeau?

No.

What?

I If Mike Malone is available, I think that's foolish.

I wouldn't fire Thibodeau if Phil Jackson was available.

Well, we should have never hired Phil Jackson in the first place.

Not a bad Phil Jackson.

Source of the

good Phil Jackson.

Like, yo, dog, I don't think Thibodeau did a bad job at all.

No, me neither.

I think it's easy in hindsight

to look and see where somebody could have done better.

For the people that say that Thibodeau had an 82-game season to get some type of chemistry with some of those ancillary parts on the bench, you wouldn't be wrong.

When the Knicks were holding auditions for either Shamit or what was going to be Marcus Morris, Marcus Mark,

the good one.

The Morris brothers.

The good one, though.

Marcus Morris Jr.,

like, I thought that those would be important pieces for a playoff front.

Like, them doing that, I felt like they identified that too.

Just didn't for some reason.

I'm not with all of the reports coming out after the fact of Knicks' locker room problems.

I'm not with that.

I don't want to harp on the negative because this is, as a lifetime Knick fan, this is the first time in my life where I have attended a first round series, a second round series, and an Eastern Conference final series in person.

Like, that don't fall short of me.

This is back-to-back 50-win seasons.

They just did a lot.

Good.

So I don't want to be the guy.

I think they were ahead of schedule.

I don't think they planned on this year going like this.

I think they'll tinker around in the offseason, and we'll see what happens next year.

But my hat off to them.

Congratulations.

I think all Knicks fans are truly happy.

I was a little tired of seeing Tommy Chamolette, Timmy Shamlet, whatever homeboy's name is.

I love that.

I was sick of it too.

I was sick of it too.

Now, he had the fucking Pacer games with the Jenner girl.

He had the Knicks game.

Yo, get this move.

I don't care about these orange and blue From Arts.

Move.

Move.

Yo, dog.

It is.

I got hate in me sometimes.

No doubt.

I don't want to see all of that shit.

Hate's fun.

What else?

What else about the Knicks that I didn't want to see for a little bit?

Some of the.

Oh, man.

I think the Knicks had a great season.

They did.

They did.

I think they overachieved.

Yeah, I think most fans would be pleased with the season.

I don't think anybody had y'all getting out of Boston

when the season started.

Listen, let me just say it.

The better team won.

I agree.

I think that the Knicks.

I think that the Knicks.

I don't know that.

I don't know.

Well, go ahead.

Listen, buddy.

I think that the Knicks are a more talented team.

I think top to bottom, coach on down,

I think they proved to the Pacers proved to be a better team.

Listen, niggas sleep because we don't know all them fucking Hayward Workman head-ass niggas.

Them niggas is monsters.

Nate Smith is a sixth pick in the draft.

The nigga that comes in after him, Macaron, was a seventh pick.

Matthew.

Matt was a seventh pick.

He had a bad series.

Shit, TJ.

I'm happy for Miles Turner.

I'm happy for Siaka.

I'm listening to fucking

Tyler Halliburton talk.

I like how he's talked.

I like how he speaks.

So it's some of them black brothers over there.

I remember when Indiana wasn't looked at like that.

So I'm happy for them two.

I'm happy for the Knicks.

All of that is awesome.

Hope we have an entertaining finals.

I'm happy for Halliburton.

I'm happy for him.

After that shit came out that they ranked him like the most overrated

league.

I like him getting his lick back on these niggas.

Yeah, no, I'm not.

Although he did look real salty, we thought he was going to be an MVP.

Oh, my God.

Because that's not a great moment.

He starts stepping up like that.

You got to be careful.

Don't spend the money before you get it.

That's true.

Even though he had a case.

He did.

He had a great case.

He had a case.

He did a great case.

But I might not.

I added him.

If he was that, then the Knicks win.

If Siakam don't go off like that,

in all of those games, the Knicks win.

The Knicks win.

How much of this current iteration of the Knicks is making it into next season?

I know there's free agency and off-season acquisitions and trades and shit like that.

Nobody knows.

Yeah, you won't know.

Bridges, Bridges.

Y'all got somebody.

Bridges is up for an extension.

Okay.

Eligible for a four-year 150 mil, somewhere around that.

But with

Greek Freak and Kevin Durant lingering, I don't think anybody is safe.

So let's just see.

The Knicks are said to want to be aggressive in free agency.

Embiid is available.

I'm just just letting you know.

I can speak on behalf of my city.

If you want Embiid, I'm going to get a little bit more.

I'm a nice little package to broker in.

Yeah.

Who would y'all give them back?

We'll take this back.

Take it through Shamole.

Spike Lee.

Just give us some seats.

Doritos or the Twix.

Right, exactly.

Fuck.

Nah, I think the Knicks did a great job.

I don't think they got anything to hold their heads over.

Agreed.

And I think they played the hell.

Yo, one thing, which you can't take from them, they play hard, dog.

Every single game, they play hard.

I think the inconsistencies come.

And Indiana was inconsistent.

Siakam was having 40.

Then he'll have 9.

Yeah, because that just speaks to the depth of your team.

The other niggas could step up on different days.

If Matherin get hot, or if Nacemith get hot, or whoever get hot, they just gonna carry the load on that night.

I think that's dope.

We do have a live reporter that went down to 34th Street to hear from Nick fans after the loss.

I may have won, but y'all come from Indiana.

Like, that's kind of weird.

We're from New York, so we really take the double.

You know, that part.

I want to come back.

Indiana has our number for years.

Wow,

this shit is not good.

I don't know why anybody is smiling during this dance.

Tyreek Halliburton, I hate your dad.

Yo, Adam Silver.

What does it say?

Adam Silver?

Suck my fucking dick.

The Knicks are losing because of Halliburton selling his song.

Hey, man, big semi-nerva.

During the dance camps, I see people smile like it during 90s discovery.

Fucking kidding me.

We're down 20.

It was a lot of bullshit, questionable cause, bro.

Aaron Lee said he's devil magic ass three.

This is some BS.

How the fuck you caught four fouls in nine seconds?

That was crazy.

I don't know what they were doing tonight.

The Rats were cheating.

Listen, enough of this for a second.

Listen, on one hand,

congratulations to Indiana.

We got a show to do, so I don't want to harp on this.

I do want to hit the round of applause and say congratulations to Indiana.

In order to learn how to win, you got to learn how to lose.

And they've been here before.

This is the Knicks' first conference final.

The Pacers have been here for a few years.

It's their turn now.

You want to tip your hat to those guys.

On the flip side of that,

to Mike X, Zaire,

Teague, any of the rest of you niggas.

The Jacksons.

Yeah.

It's still, y'all, it's still Indiana.

Oh, you stupid, y'all.

Oh, my God.

If we had to trade and

y'all got all the basketball accolades and we got none, but we get to be in New York and you get to be in Indiana.

Like, it's still tumbleweeds and soybeans out there.

It's still cornstarch.

What else is happening out there?

Milk, probably.

Y'all are the least known sport out there.

It's the Colts, WNBA, the ND500, high school basketball, college basketball, and then you niggas.

So let's just

taper it down, relax.

Y'all are still y'all.

But y'all still y'all.

You ain't hating your colts.

Rick Carlisle talking about something.

What the fuck did he say?

And then we can move on.

He said, in 49 states, it's just basketball.

In one state, it's just basketball.

Like, shut up.

Shut up.

Brick Carl.

I love that.

I like that.

He's right, though.

That's all them niggas do.

That's all they do.

Anyway, congratulations, India.

Y'all still, it's still Indiana, though.

Niggas ain't even got a Shake Shack out there.

Niggas ain't got no bodegas.

Niggas got them bland bitches.

Anyway, all right, let me shut up.

Anyway, moving on.

Got a man on your phone.

Moving on.

Yo, the internet has been crazy the last couple days about this Vanessa Bryant story.

I know y'all have heard it at this point.

There was a rumor going on for the last like three or four days that Vanessa Bryant,

the widow of Kobe Bryant, was pregnant.

Then there was another rumor that she was not only pregnant, but potentially pregnant by a young baller, basketball player.

A young baller.

That was the quote that was in the news that said a young baller.

I'm assuming they meant basketball player.

And fortunately, earlier in the week, Vanessa came out to clear up the the rumor.

She said, I'm enjoying my summer, not pregnant.

You know, basically, like, I'm ignoring the rest of the rumors.

So, we know that part's not true.

What's interesting to me, though, is people's reaction to it.

Like, people were bent out of shape, especially dudes, were like really, really bent out of shape at the idea that Vanessa Bryant could be pregnant.

I even saw, I flip, I seen your tweet.

You were like, it better have been, if she's pregnant, it better be from like some like,

I mean, it's Kobe, man.

A frozen egg.

I mean,

it's an unspoken rule, you know, amongst in the in the community i mean

what community listen the community that i'm from okay and that

yes and the rule is i mean of course

in in life she can she's supposed to move on she can live her life and stuff like that i mean it's been five years and all that and and that's her choice if that was true But nigga, when it comes to morals and principles in our minds, nigga, in whatever mental world that I'm in, nigga, I'm not, that's Kobe, nigga.

But what's the best thing?

I don't want to see you move on.

I don't don't want to see her move on.

I don't want to see Laura London move on.

I don't want to see y'all move on.

Do that shit privately.

So they're supposed to walk around in public with black veils and black dresses and just be in the constant state of mourning for the rest of their lives.

Well, that's extreme, but I would want your business to be private because we still hold these guys in high regards in my mind.

Even though they can do it, it's just like, oh, damn, girl, you did that.

And it's been five years if that was the case.

But it's not.

You know, that's not crazy, right?

That's insane.

Dude, I'm crazy.

Hey, what the fuck can I say?

I'm crazy.

And this ain't some, what's interesting to me is that it's not just some, like, flip shit, right?

It's not just you.

I know.

It's everybody.

Like, it's a big chunk of the internet was saying the same shit.

They were, like, calling her all kinds of hoes.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

I don't agree with that.

I think that, you know, that's not what.

No, I know you're not saying that, but I'm just saying the idea that she did something wrong and she's violating some code.

I wanted to kind of know first, when Kobe died again?

2020.

Like January 2020.

Hey, dog.

Yo, dog.

There's a lot of people that have problems, not widows moving on for some reason.

I see that in non-celebrity circles.

My sister lost her husband, and people in the community were weird when she got his boys.

Like, how dare she?

Right.

Listen, this is a million little things and Landman.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I've seen Landman, but it's a million little things for sure.

Landman was so it's next on my list.

But yes, it is.

What did you say?

I don't remember that happened in Landman.

In Landman, when dude worked

the shit died, and his wife.

My nigga, that's different.

How?

She was a week later.

Two weeks later.

It didn't take that long in a million little things either.

I think in most cases I'm familiar with, it happens because somebody is there to console you over your loss.

They become

different, too, though.

So it happens a little fast.

How?

It's a best friend.

Yo, I'm a pro.

Is that

a no for you?

The best, yes.

It's not a no for me.

I don't know if that's a no for me.

It's not a no for me.

A lot of times that is exactly what happens because the best friend was the closest,

you know, like or if it's your best friend, typically

he got some of your same characteristics or he shared some shit.

I'm laughing.

I'm with him.

He does.

He's right.

That's a good one.

It just sounds funny, though.

It do sound funny because

in a nigga's mind, the best friend was thinking about this, but he's still here.

You dead.

You ain't got no mind.

You dead as hell.

I'm just talking about nigga mind.

Nigga brain.

Nigga brain.

Outsiders onlookers.

You're right, Frieza.

Yes.

I want my niggas to set it off on you, nigga.

I'm seeing niggas saying Stevie J was wild for Marion Faith.

Why?

Because he worked with Big before?

Because of the whole Big relationship.

But usually in friend circles.

That's crazy to me.

You have like the same kind of political beliefs, maybe, or just general view of the world at least to some level niggas uphold a lot of stupid beliefs yeah some of this some of this is just stupid man move on don't move on with my best friend i don't give a fuck what y'all talking about but if it passed somebody else your best friend is the person that and i'm not i'm not advocating for this i'm just no i'm just saying but if your best friend is the person that makes your uh

uh makes the wife feel better and is the best option for your family moving forward then why would you be so against it i'm haunting all you niggas go freeze i'm there every dream

And hold on.

I have a friend.

I have a friend who.

Wait, and it's happening in your friends and neighbors.

And it's happening in your friends and neighbors.

What's the matter?

What are you saying?

It's a show on Apple where...

Is that good?

Yes.

I'm going to watch it.

Where the main character, his baby moms, is in a relationship with his best friend who happens to be an actor.

They're all still alive.

Oh, no, that's different.

And they have blended family.

It's a blended.

I'm with blended family.

I'm with blended family.

If I'm still here, don't fuck with my man.

But if I'm gone, I think I actually encourage you to be a little bit more.

Wait a minute.

And I think that that could happen organically.

I think that your man's could pass away or

your wife could pass away, and you are being the nigga that they leaning on because you think that's your duty.

Like, yo, you need some money, you need this, you need that.

I know he would have done those things.

You can do all that without fucking my girl.

You're trying to step up to be

present in his absence.

And that can be an organic thing where she starts to like you or he starts to like her.

I don't think that this is.

I have a friend whose father passed away when he was six years old and his mother ended up marrying his father's best friend.

I don't know what the length of time afterwards, but it wasn't that long.

He's carried this inside his head and resents his mom as a result.

I was like, so you've been thinking with your six-year-old brain trying to figure out the decisions that this woman who was left widowed with young children, yet it's like there's also like a sense of support that a woman would be.

I wouldn't want my wife or baby mom to go out and deal with all the fuckheads in the street.

Like, if there's a good man, like, don't mess with my like wild friends, though.

Like, pick the good one.

Like, pick the good one, the solid one.

Y'all into some different shit.

Yeah, y'all gotta respect it.

Because it was a thing back in the days, I heard.

Like, back in the days, it was a thing where the husband died, they're married, the brother, so

I read it.

But I believe it happens a lot, too.

That makes sense.

What year you died, nigga?

You died five years ago.

Who, me?

I'm comfortable.

I slap.

I'm just saying.

Has it been five years?

You died five years ago.

Let me tell you something.

Don't listen.

I gotta come over down.

What are you talking about, real quick?

You talking about me?

Nigga, I'll kill you, nigga.

I'll punch you in your favorite jacket.

I don't give a fuck, nigga.

JR will fix you, nigga.

JR will fix you, nigga.

Will JR be happy to see a familiar?

Never.

JR will fix you.

I'm joking, man.

It's just, it's just, because we know some niggas out here are able to help the family without getting in the bed

with the girl.

Wait, so, well, because I'm fascinated by these rules, because even Parks got a rule.

You're like, you're okay with it as long as you're dead.

Yeah, if I'm dead, then have a black hole.

But if you're alive, then no, she can't.

No.

We got all these rules about what women can do with their bodies.

I got rules.

You will not let her.

Listen to what I'm saying.

We will not let you.

You know what I am?

That's exactly what it is.

You said she can fuck you.

You said you can fuck him.

You can fuck him.

You can fuck him if I'm dead.

You can fuck him if I'm alive.

What the fuck is that?

I've been telling her who.

No, Mark.

You got to talk it over.

Don't listen to what I'm saying.

Listen to what I'm saying.

Let's attack Mark one at a time.

One at a time.

I'm fine with that.

Hold on, hear me out.

Let me get a point for you to disagree with it.

Don't talk over.

I'm not saying I don't have those rules, too.

I'm saying that they're fucked up rules.

I'm saying I don't want my wife to fuck my brother or my best friend.

No, no.

But we're all for no, I'm saying, but that's

that is about controlling what women do with their bodies.

Yeah, using an example from a woman's.

men and women.

I said both.

You think that's wise?

No, because most of us don't have the same rule for the other side.

That's not true.

I said for both.

I think it's the same.

I'm saying most of us, most dudes I know have fucked their.

Let me not say that.

Many dudes I know have had sex with their girlfriend's best friend.

Or if their wife's died, would fuck their best friend.

They would be their wife's best friend.

And you know what?

He was plotting on her while she was here.

Right.

Which is the same shit that I'm saying.

Don't make it right either way.

Is that against your ethics and morals and principles?

And be clear, a lot of people.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Is that against your your ethics and morals and principles?

What is the question?

Go for it, Flip.

I got it.

What's the question?

If you were to mess with your wife, if she were to pass away, God forbid, her girlfriend.

Yes.

Or her best friend, you know, best word.

Would that be against ethics and rules and principles?

Yes.

Why?

It's still wrong.

Why?

Because that was my wife's best friend.

Wow, yes.

That's crazy to me.

It's still wrong, regardless of, listen,

it's double standards, whatever we believe.

It's still wrong at the end of the day, because how would she feel?

Would my wife want me to move on?

You wouldn't slide your wife's best friend if something happened to her.

Bro, this is not a jerk-based conversation.

I'm thinking which one is the best friend.

No, no, I'm not kidding.

That's hilarious.

I would not.

I would not.

Because you live by principles and certain principles and morals that was instilled in us.

Why wouldn't you?

Even though you don't want to identify it as principles and morals that is instilled in us, that's what we live by.

An unspoken rule and an unspoken respect amongst in a relationship amongst your partner.

You're not supposed to fuck, if your wife passed away, you're not supposed to fuck her best friend.

Because that's just what what it is.

I'm not disagreeing.

Even when she's alive, nigga,

that part.

This is what I'm saying.

I personally would not because anybody who my wife considers a best friend, I look at like a sister at that point.

There we go.

So for me, that's, and I don't, it's just like anybody in this room, any of y'all ladies, I look at like family at that point.

I stopped looking at the lady.

What'd you say?

There's only one lady in the room.

I said any of the lady.

No, y'all's lady.

Y'all are ladies.

Copy, copy, copy, copy.

Like, I look at y'all, so I wouldn't even think like that.

And after they're gone, I don't start thinking like that.

Like, oh, now they free.

I get that.

But what I'm saying is, if I were to make a different choice.

You met this lady?

I'll sleep one of y'all niggas right now.

If I did, I wouldn't tell you.

Oh, okay.

Just checking.

Yeah.

But the.

Right.

Yeah, I'd make it uncomfortable, nigga.

I don't care.

Nobody's scared or stuff at all.

But the point is,

it's about, ultimately, it still becomes about control.

And

I find that we want to control what people do.

But Mark, this is what we're saying to you.

Why you always speak like you done found some epiphany while also admitting that you're guilty of the same shit?

You know what time it is.

It's self-awareness.

Why are you

going to do it?

Oh, hell no.

Oh, hell no.

Oh, total self-awareness.

Being able to acknowledge that you have faults, but also

and want to be better.

And want to be better, exactly.

It's cold self-awareness.

I know, but you could do that while you could also sound like you identify with that side because you lived that.

I'm not hearing the identification in terms of,

yeah, I understand how that can happen, even though it sounds foul when we verbalize it.

I'm doing that so that I don't seem like I'm talking above the fray.

Like I'm taking a moral high ground.

I'm saying I struggle with that too, but it's a dumbass position to take that I might work with, work, struggle with too.

If my wife told me right now, Mark, if you die, you know, I could end up with your best friend, right?

Or

somebody you know, that shit would drive me crazy, even though it shouldn't fucking matter.

I know, then we need to address why she's telling you that.

That's fair.

That's fair.

So you was thinking about this next.

It's a tough hypothetical.

I don't mean it in that way.

I just mean.

If she initiated the conversation, it hits different.

But if hypothetically she said, yo, if something were to happen to me, I wouldn't mind if you sought a relationship with such and such, and that could be her best friend, you receive that differently.

For sure.

Then her saying, yo, I feel like that.

And I said that wrong.

I'll put it like this.

If my wife were to ask me, Mark, is anybody off limits if you die for me to date?

In my brain, I got a list of people, same way everybody in this room do.

But in real life, I would say no.

I wouldn't.

And that's what I'm saying.

I would say

my list of my list.

I would say my list.

I would say my list.

Why would you say that?

This is also a clip from Modern Family when they was on the plane.

They had this exact conversation.

I would say no because I don't, because even though I have a list.

One of the greatest shows ever.

This shit is.

My list would be friends, some family, some of my favorite rappers.

It'd be a list.

Okay.

I'm not even joking.

And Idris, fuck that guy.

Mars Cheshire.

Morris Chester.

Mars I ain't worried about.

But that

was his name?

The dude?

Don Chimney.

Damns.

Which one?

Whatever that dude that was at the Muslim banquet thing.

Yeah, he's

a hero.

Top of the list.

Right?

Fuck that guy.

Well, you're just saying three guys who are very happily married.

Idris.

I'm dead.

They wives could be dead.

Whatever.

The point.

No, all the niggas is happily married, baby.

Yes, I do.

I had no idea, though.

I absolutely do.

The point is...

I'm in that age range where I'm looking for who's getting divorced.

Anyways, go on.

Anyway, enough about this.

Hold on.

Whoa.

Holy shit.

Who's looking to get on their second marriage?

She said I'm here for seconds.

I told you I'm not editing myself anymore.

Go on.

All right.

I love that.

I love that.

So tell me who is on y'all.

So if your partner comes to you and says right now, who's on the cannot fuck with, you cannot fuck with them list after I die?

Who's on the list for you?

Everyone.

The female.

I mean, I want to go back to why you won't tell her the list, though.

Because I don't think I'm right.

I think I'm being

asking you a question.

Yes, and I'm saying

I don't think it's a reasonable ask, even if she does.

I disagree.

I'm saying I have a list, but I don't think I'm right.

So you'd rather lie to her.

Yeah, freeze.

Freeze.

No, you rather pander and play politically correctly.

Pander to who is just two people in the list.

That's not what pandering means.

I'm just saying, I don't want, I want to do what I think is right, even if I think that it is a popular opinion.

Yo, dog, that's pandering.

You go and you go.

I want to do what is right, even if it's popular.

Did you see that?

I want to do what's right.

You're screaming for the population.

I apologize.

Listen to what I'm saying.

No, no, that's not pandering.

No, hold on.

I said, if doing what you think is right is not pandering.

You're lying.

No, I said you're lying to your wife.

She asked you a direct response.

You said what you think is that you think you gave a politically correct response as opposed to telling her.

That's not a lie.

Listen to what I just said.

It's not a lie, Martha.

You said, no, I have a list and I'm telling her, no, there's no list.

That's not what I said.

That's not what I said.

I'm not going to sell her my list.

Now, let me tell you what I actually said.

Oh, yo, yo.

She asked me to...

She asked me,

if you just let me talk, you'll hear what I'm saying.

She said, who is off-limits?

Not who do you want to be off limits.

Who is off-limits?

And I'm saying, I have a list of people who I want to be off limits, but I'm not going to share that list because, let me finish, because

usually people do like this as an interjection.

So I'm saying, I wouldn't share that list because I don't actually think that's the right list to share.

I'm going to do the the right thing, even though it's difficult for me.

That's not pandering.

That's me saying I'm going to make a principled decision despite the fact that she's giving me another option.

Mm-hmm.

My go?

Yeah.

You said when she asked you this question, you're going to say nobody,

even though you have a list this long.

Yes.

That's a lie.

It's not a lie.

He's trying to get all

of it.

It's not a semantic thing.

It's not.

If you say.

Who's off limits versus who you want to be off limits is what you're saying.

Yes, and I'm saying, right,

I'm saying I don't want, I want the, like, I want the whole world to be off limits, but that's not fair.

It's not fair.

So I'm going to do what's fair.

That's not a lie.

But this is a real conversation.

It's not a lie.

Joe, if I say to you right now,

Joe, if I say to you right now, if I say to you, Joe, right now, who's getting fired?

Joe, if I said,

who are you fired,

right?

And you got to handle a list of people who you want to fire, who you want to say, right?

Not here, anywhere, right?

And you ultimately decide that you don't, you ultimately say, I'm not cool.

You know, let me know you said exactly.

I understand.

I understand.

I'm doing it for you.

No, no, no.

Because I don't feel like thinking it through.

And you do too.

We just think he's lying.

No, but he's still lying.

How is that semantic?

Why don't I stand dancing on a fine line?

That's called nuance.

I'm saying there's lots of people

I don't want my right to fuck, but I don't think I have a right to say that.

You can't correct yourself in real life.

I'm giving you the right to say that by asking you who are the people you don't want me to fuck with.

Who's off limits?

That is her saying, hey,

even if you don't think you have the right, I'm giving it to you because I would like to know the people that you think.

And that's a fair question.

I'm saying, I...

And then you're going to say, there's nobody off limits, even though in your head, there's a lot of people I would say.

So he's lying to himself, he's lying to her because he's telling her.

He's lying to her,

that's the direct questions, yeah.

But he just omitted it.

This is what I'm saying.

If she says to me, Mark,

you'd rather not say that.

Purposeful omission is a lie.

I'm not lying.

Look, listen, circular interaction.

I don't want you guys to be circular.

What I will say in terms of what I think you're saying is

I take you at your word.

I believe you.

Yeah.

I do believe you.

I think that has to to do, I think I believe you more so on

what

that stance does for your appearance to your wife versus what you're saying.

No, I feel like you're not.

Like,

when you say to your wife, nobody.

Here's the thing.

If I were to ask my wife that same question, she would have a list of meaning and would tell me that list.

So it's not like she's expecting me to say nobody.

I just think that she's wrong.

And I'm not going to do to her what

she might,

I'm not going to impose a rule on her just because she's imposing the same rule on me because I don't actually think that rule is okay listen brother I don't ever aspire to be as mature as you

you

you too damn mature but you can correct yourself in real time you can't you too

no no what I'm saying I agree with you you can have a conversation and in you in inside you can feel one way but when you're talking to your wife you just don't want to put that because it's wrong It's a lot of shit that I have that conversation with Linky all the time and I be dead wrong, but I don't want to

admit it.

Exactly, man.

I know I'm wrong in my mind, but I don't want to have that debate.

I don't want to put that on her, and I don't want her to put that on me.

So let me ask y'all a question in that line.

If I were to say, or flip ice, if I were to say, if she says, who's off lips?

I say, well, you know what?

Would it be honest to say, look, I got a lot of people in my head that I don't want you to fuck with, but I don't actually think I should say that to you because I don't want to put restrictions on you.

So do what you, you know, do what you want.

That's like meeting in the middle of the past.

Is that more transferable?

That's the middle paper.

I'm asking, is that more transparent?

That's you being honest.

That's you being honest, saying, yo, there is a list.

But I don't want to tell you the list.

Instead of saying, no, there's no list.

I didn't say there was no list.

Do you understand the difference between saying there's no list?

That's not what I'm saying.

In closing, none of us are leaving our partners.

No, hopefully our partnership.

None of us are having these talks currently outside of me.

I ain't going to the bars, baby.

Before we close,

I just had one question for Mark because I didn't see the chatter, obviously.

Was there a separation in the attitude towards this question between men and women?

Like,

did women have a different stance?

Yes, did they do that?

They attacked me.

They said, oh, you want to control her pussy now?

All type of crazy stuff.

Women did this.

Women did this.

Yes.

Women.

Some men did too.

Some women do that too.

And it's probably middle.

Yeah.

It's probably middle.

To me, I saw a lot of women on the side of she can do whatever she wants,

live her life.

Women can be very judgy in these situations, too, from my personal experience.

They absolutely can.

So for them to say that

every time I fuck one of their dead friends, they start judging me.

I'm with you.

Once upon a time.

What time it is, right?

Yes.

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The Clips did a GQ interview.

Really good interview, by the way.

Yep, yep.

They did a lot of interview.

Long read.

A lot of interview, but certain clips started making the way around.

One being how Push feels about Kanye currently, how he feels about the Drake lawsuit, yada, yada, yada.

Which part do y'all want to unpack first in this push shit?

Oh, and Def Jam.

The Def Jam.

Are they on Rock Nation now?

Because the Kendrick verse, Def Jam wouldn't clear it.

Let me lead off.

Go ahead.

Def Jam ain't been Def Jam since I was at Def Jam.

Def Jam has always been Def, D E A F Jam.

I call them Def Jig.

Or that.

I like that.

I've been calling calling them Def Jig.

Now, I try to chill because I used to know good people working over there.

I don't know who's over there now.

I know they broke down, consolidated, and picked it back up, and they made some type of new group now with all of Mercury and Island and yada, yada, yada.

We'll get to that.

But Def Jim

did Big Sean wrong, Tiana wrong, even though she's still over there.

Who else they did wrong?

Crit,

Joe Button, Def Jam without Ludacris and Ja and DMX

and LL and that Def Jam ain't Def Jam.

So why everybody get all of that?

The record player with the needle on the post that I have fucking tattooed on me, them days are long gone.

Apt long, why anybody is surprised that Def Jam did some anti-hip-hop shit I'm shocked by, but I'm not.

They've done a good job with marketing themselves as the hip-hoppityist hip-hop label, and that just has not been the truth for quite some time.

So it don't shock me that they said in the middle of litigation,

hey, no Kendrick, even though he is a universal act.

Well, I think they wanted to censor him and they refused.

So they wanted to take the song off and they refused.

So they came up with, hey, just let us go.

And that was problematic because Pusha is also signed there as a solo artist.

Well, that's where I want to reserve some of my Def Def Jam vitriol.

If that story is true, that means that they released him.

They did.

They did release him.

Which is, I mean, so we want to applaud Def Jam for, because I wouldn't have done that.

No way.

No way.

I wouldn't have released you.

No way.

You'd have just had to find another way with your little verse.

But did the Kendrick verse say or not out.

No one's heard it.

It's not out.

We haven't heard it.

I mean, no, no, as a, you know, from the interview, was there a subliminal against Drake?

Was there.

From what I was told,

no.

He didn't make any subliminals

about

Drake or anything like that.

I don't think that matters when litigation is going on.

Yeah.

So they're just afraid that any mention

or subliminal

interpretation.

The mere appearance on there, I guess, scared them off.

Just Kendrick's appearance alone.

It's going to do so.

No, Kendrick's going to be aware of it.

No, Kendrick in combination with Poland.

Oh, okay.

Gotcha, gotcha.

Who are the two people that

defeated

a battle?

I understand.

And we in the middle of a potential 10-figure lawsuit against this man.

Yeah.

I'm going to proceed on the side of caution.

You're going to cost us money.

Yeah.

They are already literally, supposedly,

some billions is being tossed around as a potential settlement.

Nigga, I'm not playing them games.

So you can feel how you want to feel

on a sentimental side, but this is business.

And sometimes we get the two conflated.

Like, fam, I'm making the best decision for our business, not for your project and your art.

So they left Def Jam and went to Rock Nation?

Yes.

Yes.

That's interesting.

They left Def Jam.

They were shopping the album around and eventually partnered up with Rock Nation for distribution.

Got it.

So it's like a distro deal with them.

Thoughts?

Yeah.

I mean, I think they landed in the right place, honestly.

Def Jam hasn't been Def Jam, to your point.

I agree.

So, Rock Nation is still Rock Nation, and they've got a bunch of talented people over there, and they're building it.

So, they landed in the right place.

How normal is this in the business that a label will step in and do this?

Step in and what?

Like, censoring?

Censor?

Yeah, yeah, to somebody take your diverse.

Yeah, give them a diverse.

This is not for my era or hip-hop.

That just didn't happen then.

Artists didn't have that much power back then.

I got some firsthand idea.

Some did.

Very few.

Some did, but that didn't

go on.

Well, yeah.

It still only is.

I feel like usually these type of things would be like an a r decision this artist isn't hot enough or whatever reason we don't want this artist on there i this is might be might be the first time i've experienced or witnessed them censoring for a huge art a huge a huge a big artist yeah yeah taking a big a bigger artist than the album is yeah nobody's ever heard of you having the biggest rapper in the game feature and the label you're on saying no thank you nobody's ever heard of that yeah yeah yeah that's new to me okay could be That's new.

But I understand the position.

Yeah.

And I think

push even said something like that.

Yo, the lawsuit shit is bigger than hip-hop now.

So it sucks that you got kind of got to acquiesce to this thing, but it's here.

And it is a real thing.

So you have to treat it that way.

So I understand Def Jam's position.

Thank God that there is a juxtaposition.

Alternate right.

Yeah.

I just hate it.

I don't know if it's just the Def Jam position that this is coming from.

And I say that because I've heard firsthand that

there has been edits made to, or verses taken, verses removed came down strictly from a certain artist.

Yo,

I need y'all.

That can't go on that album.

Yeah.

Well, they mentioned it.

They mentioned the Rick Ross.

There's some other records.

There's some other records that I was told he did the same thing to.

Yo, this can't happen.

And if you don't do this, I'll make it up by doing something for y'all.

You scratch my back by getting this off of this album, I'll scratch it back.

You're saying this is Drake.

Yes.

That's what you're saying.

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Do you think that?

I think it's UMG.

But that could be acting from him.

It's still.

Yeah.

If I could pick up a phone call and call a head over here, yo, that deck.

I'd have more respect if it was UMG, though.

Like, because then it feels like a business move and you just have to do it.

If another artist just calls you and says, like, you know I'm saying like take this I don't want that verse in there.

Yeah, I don't respect that as much.

That's all I'm saying.

I just think that's power.

I agree with that too.

But I was just about to say I think that he's an anomaly or he's one of a selected few groups of artists where he ain't moving like an artist no more.

He moving like a business and like a brand.

And if you're going to say some shit that could be potentially disparaging to me, I got the big boy power to shelf your shit.

Remember back when I don't think that that's new.

Remember back when 50 was beefing with The Locks?

And he said, one more word out your mouth.

I put style shit back.

Like, I had power at Universal.

You weren't saying that.

I mean, excuse me, at Interscope.

Yeah.

50 used to say, my name is Curtis Interscope Jackson.

When I lean, the building leans.

So Drake has that power.

Not just at universal.

I think it's further.

Well, I don't know today.

It might not reach as far.

Before, I don't think it was just at Universal.

I think he had that power across hip-hop, period.

I could make a phone call.

I don't like that.

Fix it.

How many artists have that power now?

Now?

Yeah.

If we say Drake's one of those people, who else is one of those people?

Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift.

Yeah.

Oh, for sure.

But that's what, and again, that's something else that Drake was sitting here saying on the disses with Kendrick.

When he's like, yo, you got to coordinate your schedule with Taylor's people.

You can't drop because she's dropping.

The music industry coordinates their schedule with Taylor's people.

And she just got her shit back?

Just so we're clear.

Yeah, yeah.

So, but from a business perspective, if Joe says, yo,

not that you would do this, yo, don't go over there and be on that podcast.

I would do that.

Come here first, right?

Come here first.

You have to now look at a risk versus reward thing that if Drake is saying, I got you, my nigga.

I'm going to give you two free verses, right?

Those verses could take you out of here.

You're going to get more spins than you ever got.

You might get more streams than you ever got versus this artist like, yo, dog.

I know you might, I don't even know if they got a personal relationship, but you're not as hot as Drake.

Right.

Right?

So if he tells me, yo, do me a solid, I'm going to do you a solid, it's a business decision that might have to be made.

It's the black ball.

It's just another way to do it.

And I don't think he's the, that's what I'm saying.

I don't think he's the person that's doing that.

I think it's counterproductive.

I mean,

I want to hear the verse more now.

Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

From whose perspective?

You think I'm talking about me talking about from a fan's perspective?

Oh, I'm not talking about them.

Yeah, no, I'm talking about me.

And that's what happens, though.

I want to, now you've put, I wasn't necessarily checking for this song, right?

So now Kendrick can just drop that verse himself.

No, that verse is on the album.

Yeah, it's coming up.

Oh, okay.

Because the album's not over there.

Right, right, because he didn't move.

Right.

Now, with the other one, like the verse we were talking about was Mayback Music 6.

It was a Ross song featuring Young Thug.

Excuse me.

It was a Ross song featuring Lil Wayne and Pusha T originally.

Whatever calls were made.

Push his verse was removed from that.

It went out as Ross and Wayne.

And then

with the power of the internet, no, I'm going to upload this verse.

Right.

Somebody's going to upload this verse.

And you can just mix it.

I like Kendrick clearing his verse for this Clips project no matter what label it comes out on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that.

Yeah.

It's not a given.

So

that's not a given.

I didn't know that.

I could be clearing you because you're over there.

The second that you go over there, I could put a nyx to all of that.

That's true.

So he cleared it twice.

Wherever you end up with it.

So now imagine that.

I get to negotiate my new terms

with a Kindleverse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know everybody gonna run to it.

Now they really run.

That's promo for this.

It's like when Wayne looked out for me on She Don't Put It Down.

Boy, I was talking to E1 like my dick was 30 inches.

I ain't gonna hold you.

I was talking to them niggas.

Boy.

That's nice.

You got a nigga Verse who's fucking better than you?

Doing a little better.

Label, react a little.

Yeah.

a little different yeah i want to progress the conversation joe um

you've been one of the guys that gone against uh against the machine and then now they're saying no not now they're saying as you being the person that did that now they're saying that we up here may be afraid to speak on rock nation and the things that's talked about that's going surrounding it um what is your outlook on that as far as speaking on things do you

reserve

academics said that.

Acting some other people.

Acting some people.

It's not just a lot of people.

So I want to know, because you're my man, so I'm there.

I'm on the same type of time you on.

So meaning that I don't speak on shit if I have a relationship.

Me, I can identify.

If I have a relationship with somebody, I'm not speaking on it because I don't want to.

Regardless of how egregious it may come off, I'm not speaking it because I

respect my relationships.

So like if there was like a festival where things didn't go perfectly, you wouldn't like bomb.

I'm not going to fuck you up.

But I want to know when when people say that towards you that's good for you though as you being the guy

deaf girl and you try to distract me as you being i'm not let me tell you let me try to i don't i saw act say that i didn't see nobody else

people followed like responded to that by saying

no i'm gonna be honest i saw it with people tagging yes posts before he posted that like yo y'all not gonna talk about this y'all i saw it there was there was specific topics that they feel like we avoided yes yeah yes rock nation i want to just i just want to hear from you how you look at that, Joe.

You know, maybe I'd be far removed from shit.

My brain be so different from what the internet is saying.

We don't know.

In my brain,

shut up.

I was about to talk about it.

Shut up,

motherfucker.

I'm talking to them.

Okay, okay.

What I'm saying is, the Desi Ray story broke while we were still recording, to me.

Yes.

That's that story, but there has been.

What is the other Rock Nation story that people have run from up here?

Quickly, because we want to be able to.

There's been talks of

Tory, you know,

the shit that Desiree herself.

That can't possibly apply to this podcast.

No, because he told you that's what I said.

That's what I'm saying.

That cannot possibly apply to this broadcast.

But I think you speak of it over.

But I think what they're saying is that you don't identify that Rock Nation may be playing a role in why Tory lanes in jail.

That's the angle that they're taking.

You never say that.

You just say yo, free Tory.

I said this, but you never say yo, I can see Rock Nation playing a part.

You never.

Well, one, I don't have no proof of that.

True.

And it's bonkers.

Just my take, speaking for myself.

Got it.

I won't go that far.

I don't think it's bonkers, but I don't have any proof of it.

One, and two, that's Hove's company.

I do have a certain respect for him.

There we go.

I don't know, I don't have a relationship with Desiree.

I've never met Desiree.

I don't,

like, I don't have any, I don't have any equity there.

Okay, Okay.

So she's in the news now in a story that I'm sure we'll get to at some point.

But that story just broke.

But why, but, but why?

And even that, I do have a certain type, pardon me, Mark, a certain type of sensitivity to speaking about any story with anybody's children.

I agree.

What's I was going to say?

Like, why would you say that?

I want to be very clear on that.

That's not a Rock Nation thing.

Anybody story that includes their kids

and how they going about parenting or not parenting,

I let that play out.

I don't rush to get to that.

I can't let you do that.

Do it.

We ain't do that with Brian McKnight kids.

Stop it.

You didn't?

Stop it.

That is the truth.

Do you have another example?

I'm just giving you an example.

You said any story with anybody's kids, you just let it play out.

I do that.

Brian McKnight.

Yeah, rest in peace, Brian McKnight.

I hate when y'all do that, when we making like a profound point and y'all bring up something that's just ass cheek stupid.

Brian McKnight denied kids and wanted nothing to do with his kids.

I have a stance on that.

Dog,

I'm just telling you where I stand.

I have a loud stance on people that want absolutely zero to do with their kids, nor do I grant them the same rights and privileges as people who are trying to raise their kids.

I'm lost.

Joe.

Do you have another example outside of Bnn?

I don't have another example of

the same one you said.

So now let me get back to what I'm saying about how I carry it with people and their kids and then you could announce how you carry it.

I hate this gotcha moment shit.

It's not no gotcha moment that don't make no sense.

It ain't no gotcha moment.

Brian McKnight wanted nothing to do with his kids.

Ain't claiming his kids even in death freeze.

Please leave me alone right now.

I'm telling people about how I carry people with kids.

I see what you're saying, but I also see how it's different.

Like, like, another friend.

Won't always be different when he tries that shit.

Bland trying nothing, bro.

What are you talking about?

Brian McKnight and Desiree Perez are not the same.

I didn't say they're the the same.

Then why the fuck are we talking about Brian McNay?

Sometimes we don't even want that.

Like, come on, nigga.

That's hilarious.

Go ahead, Mark.

I think that's hilarious.

What do they have to do with what the fuck I'm going to say?

Nothing to do with nothing, Joe.

Go ahead, Mark, please.

Freeze, I think you're right.

I think we do talk about kids and dogs.

I think you're right.

We do.

That's all I'm saying.

Right.

I think it's important, though.

So I think a better statement might be that it's certain kinds of conversations we have and certain kinds we don't.

For me, one thing is, is it just about this person's business or does it advance a bigger story?

Like, for example, the only reason Vanessa Bryant was interesting to me today was because we had a whole conversation

that was bigger, right?

That was bigger than her.

So, that even after we knew the story wasn't true, it was still worth talking about.

To me, Brian McKnight's story is worth talking about because of all the shit that comes with parenting and children.

Also, he's on social media talking about his kids too, which is different than Dez, who's not on camera saying, hey, this thing happened to me.

So, I think that's different too.

So, for me, and the Dez story to me is only interesting if we're going to report report on it.

On it.

I agree.

And I don't think that's what we do here.

You know what I mean?

So I do think there's a conversation.

But there is a conversation there on how far you're willing to go to protect your child, your child, or to protect your children.

That's a conversation.

Yeah, we could have that conversation, but I'm saying I don't think it's, but the narrative on the internet is like, y'all are running from that story.

It's like, well, that's not a story that I think needs to be told.

Me personally.

The narrative on the internet is anything Hove slash Rock Nation related, we won't touch.

Hove guys, that's not true.

Right, right.

That's just not true.

That's not true.

But that's the narrative.

They make it seem like we all up here, we claim Hovengers, we love Hove, et cetera, et cetera.

So we're afraid of Hove.

We can't say anything.

I'm under the story.

That's it.

I'm not under afraid.

That's the narrative.

But is the story like something that should not have, it's not meant for public consumption and just it got leaked or whatever?

No, it's on the news.

No, it's on the news.

The news out.

I understand that.

The daughter sued her.

It's out.

Got it.

I just don't think it's to me, it's not about the music business.

It's not about black culture.

It's just a story about this person who happens to be famous.

If were she not famous, we'd have no interest in that story.

That to me is why we don't talk about it.

The only reason why people care about it is because she's affiliated with Rock Nation.

I'm trying to watch this because she's not

familiar with her.

She's an exec.

That's it.

That's the only reason why they care.

Yeah.

Right.

So all these conspiracy theories, y'all afraid as if like Hove calls in and says, no, we're not talking about that.

It's bullshit.

That's the part I hate sometimes just working here for a short period of time is I'm now being introduced to all the conspiracy theories about this show and all the stuff that people think we do and don't do.

You know, all the people who call in and tell us what we can talk about, what we don't.

All the segments that get cut out that I never even knew happened.

I let Flip do that because I know how he fucks with the algorithm.

Them narratives would die where they was birthed at.

That's right.

I would never respond to somebody that's saying, yo, you're running from a, nigga.

No, he's right.

Or the real ice answer is,

so it's my show.

If I want to not speak about it, I don't have to speak about it.

That would be an ice answer.

Yes, 100%.

Like, yo, dog, if you want to talk about it, go in your body and you're going to

agree for you.

We reserve the right to say whatever, talk about what we want to or not talk about what we don't want to up here.

And to Flip's point, if I do have a relationship with you and there's some shit that's potentially disparaging or could get you jammed up, I reserve the right not to talk about it.

That's the real world.

Right.

And we're transparent about that.

That's the real world.

That's the real world.

Get off the internet and go outside.

That's the real world right there.

Yeah.

Everybody got relationships.

You hear something about somebody that you really fuck with, you might not talk about it.

True.

Or you might talk about it in your close circle, but you might y'all ain't online and

and honestly, I just honestly don't really care about some of the stuff that the internet people are trying to spread about the Desiree lady.

Yeah, like some of that stuff that they think is real important, I don't care nothing about that.

Like, when I look at what's going on, the people that I know, like in real life and love, sing that lady's praises.

I never met her.

I do not know her.

I know her.

And she's quite.

I've only known about what I read and the people that I love that love her.

They say that lady turned water to wine.

But you know why they saying these, why they looking for somebody to have these conversations about her.

It's a hip-hop talk.

If hip-hop claim we don't fuck with informants, we don't fuck with rats, we don't fuck with snitches, we don't do all of these things, and we apply this to certain people, everybody's ready to ostracize Gunner when they accuse him of being a snitch, and we don't even really know.

So now you turn around and see Rock Nation, and her shit is black and white.

So people are saying, yo, what side of the fence are y'all on with that?

Well, I'm not ever letting the internet help me form opinions.

One, two, I'm always with a redemption, retribution story

here.

So when I picture Hove,

it adds something to the Hove Allure for me.

I'm only speaking for me, that Emery is next to him.

Facts.

I don't know Emery to have an unpolluted past.

It means something to me that Tata is next to him.

Like the people that he surrounds himself with,

bigs, whoever the fuck is over there,

that means something.

And if the internet go search, you're going to find some unscrupulous, what's the word?

Unscrupulous.

Unscrupulous things.

Unscrupulous things.

Like, that ain't, that's not how.

Everybody got to learn how they form opinions of people.

You being next to somebody that may have been unscrupulous in the past, that don't just turn me all the way off from you, especially if there's a redemption

story involved.

So that's just for me.

Got it.

But I've never gotten a check from Desiree.

I hear that you get them going, though.

That's the hard take one though.

I'm telling y'all something from the people I asked.

I asked.

Hey, man.

Hey, what's up?

What's up?

They told me.

A few people.

So, what you want me to do?

Sure.

You got it.

That's bad.

I don't know.

Mark made me.

I just said that.

Yeah, it's a bad.

No, no, my face is doing the water and the wine thing.

Multiple people have told me that.

Add me to the list.

She's really, I've seen me do some amazing shit.

She's been a part of hosting

for a very, very long time.

Would you do business with her?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Interesting.

Wait, I mean,

I did not do business with her because she was part of some cartel in the 80s or something?

No, no, no, no.

It's interesting.

I'm asking you to ask him specifically.

No, not that.

I know where I'm going.

I don't.

I asked him specifically because she's documented as an informant.

Yes, with the cartel.

That's what you just said.

But that part, the snitch part, and with his stances.

Oh,

I thought that wasn't confirmed.

If it's confirmed, no, that was confirmed.

Then I wouldn't.

Oh, okay.

All right, cool.

That's why I said interesting.

No, you said that.

We need a whole section of the game called Gotcha.

No, I ain't gotcha.

Yo.

This pod love a little gotcha moment.

The internet loves gotcha.

Yeah.

That's their favorite thing.

I think Smark lying again.

It's a documentary.

I think Smart lying again.

So the gotcha don't be meaning.

Niggas are lying.

Don't sweat off.

Joe never worked.

Joe checks it now.

Hands up.

That docu sign will be over in five minutes, is promised.

Right there.

So Pusha also said that Kanye is

he doesn't look at him as a man,

and he did say that he did him right by giving him his proceeds from the death jam contract.

I don't know what the falling out was there, but it seems pretty deep-rooted.

That one I have no idea about.

He ain't expelled, yeah, not particularly just a couple sentences.

Yeah, I mean, it was interesting because he didn't need to, yeah.

I mean, he mentioned the KKK hood, and it looks like pro wrestler shit.

And he it he said this on on the interview we did just nobody realized that that's what he was saying.

But

shit like to hear it here it go

ain't no Kanye ain't no Kanye drama.

I mean now the romance that this is in 2017.

You know where they cool and then he shoot them in a verse or some shit.

That's weird push.

Bro,

that's them.

That's them.

I can't be in the studio when Drake's there.

I can't.

What do y'all think Not Like Us means?

Listen, listen.

Listen.

When they go to Wyoming, I'm there from the 1st to the 7th.

All right, all right, all right, I catch you.

I'm going to catch you.

Next thing I hear, on the 8th, bam!

Drake here, Nida, for da-da-da-da, these many days.

I don't know this.

I'm not allowed.

Everybody else can be there.

I can't.

Because I don't play neutral.

I don't do that

You don't get to shoot my homeboys and so on and so so forth.

It's not happening.

It's just not what I do.

But I feel like Kanye should be taking that same stance.

But he don't do that.

Like, everybody not built like me, bro.

What

do you think that meant?

And you can't make people be built like you.

You can't make people...

You can't.

This was the nicest way to say...

This is the music industry.

This ain't the streets.

So I don't carry people like that.

I don't.

It's like, it is what it is.

When I was growing up, if I wanted to go to the mall, if you couldn't fight, you couldn't come to the mall with me.

We could come back home and play ball all day.

Oh, you was that guy?

Yes.

You can't come.

If you can't come to the mall.

I disagree with that, though.

If we're at the mall and I'm getting jumped, nigga, go get help, but you can't fight.

I'm going to hate you forever.

I don't want to hate you forever.

You're bugging right now.

You're bugging.

Oh, I totally disagree with that.

You're bugging.

And then

his actual quote from the interview.

No.

Go ahead, please.

It says, he knows I don't think he's a man.

He knows it.

And that's why we can't build with each other no more.

That's why me and him don't click because he knows what I really, really think of him.

He showed me the weakest sides of him, and he knows how I think of weak people.

And there's another part where he's talking about Kanye is too intuitive, so he sees through me being fake.

That was the beginning of that quote.

Let me tell you something.

He's a genius, and his intuition is more, even more genius level, right?

That's why me and him don't get along.

And then the finish of the quote.

I really like this pusher guy.

No, push is great.

Push until he's never met him by the way.

For those that never met met him right when you talk about principle yeah and morals loyalty and respect being high and just carrying it a certain way like

just being both sides of the coin peaceful but eh you know i mean no peaceful logical but conviction it can get i can go there pusher t is one of the best humans in rap i never met him not rappers i like that guy he's one of the best humans good he carried it he got a lot of that Roy shit.

Like, just honor.

That's how he sounds.

So when he said now, they're attacking him now, because they're saying, which I disagree with, but they saying,

well, nigga, what the fuck you was around him for for so long if you felt that way.

I disagree with that.

I disagree with that, too.

I told you.

I think Kanye.

I don't know what box to put you in.

No, I think Kanye has displayed more of himself as the years have gone along.

I don't necessarily think that back then Kanye was exemplifying.

I mean,

Kanye evolved into where he is.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So I don't think it was the same.

Sorry, you're right.

Devolved, absolutely.

To what he is today.

Devolved.

Regression.

Rather than progression.

He wasn't evil.

You've been scrupulous.

Yeah,

I think if Kanye was the man that he is today, 15 years ago, I don't know if Push fucks with him like that.

He says he's sick.

I do believe that much.

You're sick, but you're also very calculated.

If I take your sickness and how calculated you are and disruptive you've been and try to try it to me, then it cancels itself out.

I can't look at it as sick because you're detrimental.

You're detrimental to everything.

And shout out to Push being the only guy in the world that could say, fuck Kanye, and then turn around to the Pharrell batch.

Right.

I'm just going to go hang out at LV for the next two years with my brother.

When you talk about privilege, see, niggas be trying to skip over push privilege.

You got so much privilege.

That's pretty fly.

But you get that privilege by being solid.

Stand up.

Yeah, it's true.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's not an actual thing.

I think Pharrell and Kanye admired that about him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How could you not?

I knew he was.

You could tell a stand-up person when he was saying how dude was calling around trying to pay for dirt on him.

And the people was telling him, like, yo, we not even.

No, nobody's nobody's doing that.

Same thing with Kendrick.

I'm trying to get dirt on you.

No.

I wish I could tell you how I know that he was such a solid stand-up dude, but I can't.

Why not?

Can.

Personal?

Yeah.

Illegal?

Yeah.

Whoa.

What's up, no, Milad.

Milad, Milad, Latim, Milad, Milad,

Latim, Mladam, Miladum, Milatum 44.

There you go.

Yeah, you said Milad 44.

That's what I was supposed to say.

I'm really looking forward to this push album.

Yes, clips.

Clips album.

I mean, I'm saying push clips.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Hey, I'm seeing the malice, the no malice push talks back.

I like it.

Yeah, me too.

I like it.

Me too.

I like it.

What's wrong, Freaks?

He learned him.

He learned them.

I got learned.

I told y'all, I ain't saying that shit no more.

I mean, if we're only judging off the song that they just put out, there's a conversation to be had.

Yeah.

If we're only judging from that song.

Fam, you can judge.

Go to Push Last album.

It's almost dry.

The last song on there.

Malice is on there.

On the Nico album, there's Eclipse record.

This one, there's like four joints just of recent.

They talked about it in the interview.

They said Malice is whooping ass all over this album.

So, oh, we're okay.

He definitely got busy on that track.

I was pleasantly

doing this.

Malice has always been nice.

I think people are shocked at how nice he is coming off the break.

But the break is why I won't never look at him like I look at Push.

But they also said that they were working for a while to get back to him.

But yeah, he might not have just, y'all just seeing him, he might have

been off the break for two years.

He might have been off the break for four years.

If you leave the game and go play baseball for four years and come back, I ain't looking at you as the same as the dude that had to go and fucking go.

But

you don't know how many years I've been in open gym.

You don't know how many years I've been at the pro workouts kicking these niggas' asses.

I just step back at MSG right now.

We've also just seen so many instances in hip-hop specifically where someone went leaves and just falls off.

Well, not even leaves, but maybe goes to the,

no, like the Christian row or takes a different approach to lyrics and it don't shit off the Double up sound, real different in Harlem World.

You ain't lying.

That's a prime example.

Yeah.

Double up sound, very different.

And I'm talking about the rapping.

I'm not talking about the production.

I like double up in Harlem.

Double up in Harlem World.

No, you didn't.

Yes, I did.

You like Double Up for real?

Yeah, it was cool.

You were the other second.

Did y'all hear Malice?

It was

Double Up, niggas.

Same niggas.

You fucking me up.

It was same niggas, and that's it on Double Up.

I hated Double Up, but me too.

Shout out to me.

I love that.

I love making music, but Double Up was trash.

I hated that album.

Did we hear What Freeze?

I pray for you

on the Push's last album, Him and Malice.

No, dog.

Did I hear that verse?

Because it's like people acting shocked today.

And it's almost dry.

It was like another critically acclaimed album of Push's.

I'm like, maybe y'all did not hear Malice verse on that song.

I think a lot of people maybe didn't hear it.

Yeah.

Do you think that when like the fact that you took a break or not a break, that you retired and you decided to jump back in, would it be rusty for you?

How long you been retired again?

Four, five, six years?

Rusty when?

Before people heard?

Almost 10.

Almost 10.

And I told him it would be 10 years.

Damn.

So what I'm saying is that if you.

That's crazy, right?

If you decided to come back, right?

Would you fall on the rusty side or you fall on the side where damn Joe fell off?

I would go brush up.

You're not the weather is there.

So I'm not just hopping back.

What does brush up look like with you?

Are you going into a camp?

Are you getting up with some of your homies?

I'm getting with niggas.

It's going to look like a writing camp.

It's going to look like the Dreamville sessions again.

I'm going to get with rappers.

Gotcha.

I need to see that feeling of niggas to come in the gym and do it.

I thought about that last week, right?

And we can move on.

But the fans' perspective of certain rappers, like from what you hear from the completed song to rappers' perspective of rappers just when they walk in a studio,

it's just a different vibe,

different energy.

I think that's why a lot of music suffering today, too.

Just because niggas ain't doing that.

Getting in the studio together

and feeding off each other's energy writing.

Now it's, I do it over here, email it to you.

Or no,

you said that?

Yeah.

Let me ball this paper up and throw that shit over there and rewrite some whole songs.

Somebody's like, oh, nah, hold on.

This nigga bucking.

Hold on.

Nah, nah, we ain't doing this.

Like you heard Jim talk about

the welcome to New York City shit.

Yeah.

And he was like, yo, them niggas was having like a, oh, he said that.

Oh.

And throw that shit away and start from scratch because nigga in there kicking on your ass in the studio.

It's a

competition thing.

Like Fab will never get the respect from fans that he gets from rappers who was in a studio and he walked in.

True.

It's not going to happen.

And it don't take him that long to do it, does it?

When he go in there?

No, he's special.

Yeah.

Game is another one.

We'll talk about him in a second, too.

He ain't never going to get the fan respect that he should have.

Facts.

Like the pressure from being in there with him or being in battle with this nigga.

I was playing Spades when he fucking responded.

We almost fucked up the spades.

Where do y'all think that come from, right?

Where do you think the lack of respect?

Because when we think about Jada Kids, we give him the respect.

We think about Pusher T, he gets the respect.

Where do you think that some of the lack of respect come from today?

Because game is fire.

But then do you think that I don't want to say shenanigans, but some of the things he did outshine?

Absolutely.

1,000%.

A lot of people care more about that outside shit than you actually, and they'll let the image of you outside affect how they even receive your music.

You should hit that on the head.

Yeah, that's what we're going to do.

Because when these people come in the studio, none of that matters.

When Wale come in the studio, whatever he did on Twitter ain't going to matter.

Like, you got to deal with this poet in the studio now.

Or you.

Oh, no.

Niggas didn't even come to the studio when I called.

I know, I'm just saying, or you.

Niggas might be like, oh, Joe Button out here doing the stupid shit on Joe Button TV, but this nigga is a real rapper.

All the niggas who had something to say about Joe being corny or whatever, whatever, it was.

Yo, but that nigga get busy, though.

Yeah, always a, it was always a blast.

Yeah, it was always, I don't care what anybody said, it was

they know what time it is.

That's why I felt so comfortable rebranding and starting my career on the couch, speaking to my friends.

They know, come on, stop playing.

You ain't even go down that road.

You ain't even got to go down that road.

It's not about me.

It's not about me, y'all.

Anyway,

where were we?

When we talk about music, uh-oh.

No, no, I was just asking.

That was the cliff notes of the article?

Those were the hot topics, but it's a really good article.

It's a really good read.

Go check it out.

It's in GQ.

Got it.

Nice.

Shout out to journalism.

Bringing it back, right?

Yeah.

Like a good, well-written article is like, oh, shit, this is not like the blog.

You said it was a long article, right?

It's a long read, but a well-written

read.

It's good and long.

It'll hold you nice and bad.

Yola's got me.

Yeah, nice try.

Yol's got me.

We're not saying that shit.

Unpause.

That's how I like them.

Unpause.

Play.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

No, no, no.

Now we're playing, man.

Fuck it.

We're getting carried away.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was just a heat.

What else is in music?

What else is happening in music?

I don't know if you want to touch the Taylor Swift platform or her masters back, but she bought her original Masters back.

Shout out to her.

$360 million, reportedly.

My lord.

It was like the first

six albums.

Facts.

A steal.

Well, Wonder Wide's a double steal is she already put out the re-releases.

Yeah.

And she got wet platinum in week one.

I'm getting all that.

Like six different times, and now I'm going back on my other shit again.

Fashion is.

So it don't matter what she's changing the game though.

That shit is impressive.

She's changing the game.

She's showing.

I don't know who's behind her or what it is, but at this point, she's behind me.

It don't matter.

She got the bank roll, though.

She's behind me.

She's got the bank roll behind me.

So we put a plan together and executed it.

Who you going to go get?

Me?

I'm going to go home and get me.

I'm the only nigga behind.

Hey, yo, Justin Bieber, go talk to.

I don't know if she's going to pick up your phone call.

You've been wilding.

Go sit down with her so we can try to figure out how you get some of that shit back as well, man.

Like, get it, you know, sit down with Taylor Swift.

Hopefully she...

Everybody needs to sit down with Taylor Swift.

She ahead.

You know what I'm saying?

You can sit down with me all day.

Y'all ain't moving the needle like I move the needle, so my options, y'all options is taxed.

That's true.

You can live in my house, nigga.

You ain't going to do what I'm doing.

Fuck you talking about

levels.

Yes.

What else is in music?

I want to go back to that Leon Thomas Deluxe.

I hadn't had a chance to check it out when it first dropped.

I had the pleasure of listening to it over the weekend.

Same again.

He is, I don't know.

I was going to play one of those songs the other day as my sleeper.

Which one?

So I don't play it now.

You got it?

No, I'm talking about right now.

You said you got something LC?

You don't even need that shit.

Yeah, I know.

I got it.

Well, I mean, shit, the whole deluxe is fire.

You can't really pull wrong from it.

That Kalani record is tough.

Yo, Kalani on the feature has won me over in the last two to three years.

Yeah, she smoked that.

She kills everyone.

She smokes the features, especially when it's with somebody that's bisexual.

I'm serious, because they get on that Janet, that Janet sexy Tiana kind of,

like with K1, worst behavior.

Forget it.

But anyway,

this guy is on like a Don Tolliver type run to me, Leon Thomas.

Like he seems to be creating from a different frequency.

Yeah.

What'd you play?

The Kalani was tough.

Yeah, that record's tough.

I sent you party favor.

I was going to play party favorite, but he said, I was like, I said, go ahead.

Dog,

this record is absolutely beautiful.

You deserve the truth, not another sweet excuse.

Can you just close your eyes so you don't see the message?

Oh, come on.

Come on, now.

Further to show, Leon Thomas.

He cases that right here.

On the first night that we got

came back with the bad.

They like kissing styles on the back and forth.

Stop playing with them.

What else?

I dirt up on my shoes.

And I still walked into you.

I still walked into you.

Oh, we sometimes

we're in a car, tell us up right now.

And I'm tracking it all over the world.

You still want me walking around.

Still want me walking the front.

You got post therapy clarity.

Any nigga that started the verse with you got post therapy clarity is about to get in his bag.

Shout out to Leon Thomas.

Shout out to Kaylani.

That record is called Dirt on My Shoes.

Off the Deluxe.

The deluxe is phenomenal.

It really is.

Shout out to the artists out there that ain't just scrapping together leftovers from the album for the deluxe.

Facts.

Like you niggas that sound like y'all are putting actual effort.

Like, oh, shit, this could be half of a new album.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't usually like the deluxe, but this is actually good.

Yeah, you anti-deluxe.

I'm super anti-deluxe.

I mean, I will say, by the third version of Mutt, it was like, damn, I wish they would have put a different beat or something in here.

I wish they would have combined them all.

With Bernie Gibbs, with Chris Brown, already done.

With

Big Sean, whoever else is on there.

I got you.

Leon Thomas, man.

Salute.

I like when niggas come sit on this couch and then leave here and go.

I mean, he was going off before he got here.

I'm not taking credit, but.

Now, you know what I like?

When you meet him, and some of these people are really just genuinely dope-ass cool people.

Like, he sat on the couch, he was just kicking it, mad humble.

Like, yo, if we cut the cameras off, we'd have still been in here kicking it and being how he was.

I like that.

That's what fucked up my night on fucking Friday night when I was supposed to be in the gym Saturday morning.

Sitting here lying to Jossy.

Sitting here lying to Joshie.

You talking about

bluff?

Yeah.

Where had y'all hit the streets?

When artists come here, I lie.

Yeah, yeah.

No, we out.

We gonna hit the city, we out.

No, no, no.

The artists are all out.

But I knew I wasn't going out on Fridays because me and my girl did some talking in those Friday bars.

Anyway.

Anyway, I'm going to sit in my little hot ass home on Fridays.

So I told the trainer, yo, 7 a.m.

tomorrow, normal time.

I normally push it to 9 or 10 if I'm going out, but I ain't going out no more.

Here come Josie at around nine o'clock.

Yo, OG, Unk.

Yo, we still going.

I'm gonna hit everybody up.

OG.

She done put the squad on.

I'm gonna hit everybody up.

And Friday night just ain't the best night at

some places.

Yeah, yeah.

I take my hot ass out there with her, try to show her a good time.

Whoop your ass.

Miss my gym appointment.

Miss my other appointment.

Had to clear the whole Saturday to get some sleep.

That's the other thing.

My body ain't.

reacting

the same way to going out one night.

It's different.

It ain't the same.

It's different.

You need to recover.

And

if the one night I go out is not kid and play house party, then I could have stayed home.

I curate.

I'm not frustrated.

You'd be mad.

Yeah, I curate my home in a way to whereas where I'm going is you're battling home.

True.

Home.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got my favorite chips.

Look at my baby bought me the salt and pepper chips.

Yeah, I'm going for what?

of thing hold on so you but you were hosting

so how did how did jazzie have yeah then my son hit me too

that night

literally

yeah

word no the other son yeah i know stupid uh so did everybody have a good time did she have a good time everybody had fun okay Trey had fun, Jazzy had fun, Jazzy's peoples had fun, Jawzi hit me to thank me for our hospitality and yada, yada.

A lot of people enjoyed it.

But you're great at that, though.

That shit don't get highlighted enough.

You're great at hosting and showing people a good time.

Yeah, but it's over now.

I know.

Shout ain't out with none of that shit.

Shout out.

I know, because me and Trey, Trey normally go out with me on Fridays, but he comes with me to my other.

So we walked in this spot.

He like, dad, what's going on?

I said, what do you mean?

He said, I mean, it's cool in here, but this ain't your...

This ain't your normal.

Get honest with my boy.

It's like, yo, man.

She laid down a law.

The shit that you

can't do that was shit that you're going through, son.

I don't want to go through.

Hey, baby boy.

The shit that you're going through, son, I don't want to go through now, mom.

Exactly.

You learn when you sit, mom.

All that fun you seen us having, talking to God.

Let me see your toes here.

It's over, buddy.

It's over.

Happy home, happy, what is this?

Not happy wife, happy.

But nigga, you just said, happy house, happy six.

But you just said the other day that happy girlfriend, happy world.

Come on.

You just said that.

You got to come.

You got to come to the world.

Happy girlfriend.

I'll find some more mob deep instrumentals for you or something.

You just said the other day that you go down with a fight, right?

When it comes to the conversation.

So

how was the OG able to convince you to not go out?

Like, what, what did she, what was the wild card she pulled out?

Like, you know, the wild card.

There's only one wild card that needs to be pulled.

I mean, but when I'm the biggest of jokers.

If you're going down with a fight,

there's only but a little bit of ammo that, like, when my wife, I argue with her, there's only one thing that she can say.

She has to catch me dead to right for me to say, ah, you got me.

But if she don't, if you just speculating, nigga, I'm going down, nigga.

Tyson.

So don't you check?

Busta Douglas.

Don't you pick a battle?

No,

every battle.

Every battle is me.

All the time.

I mean, now I do because now I pick the battles because my children are older, like Prince George was with.

Princess and Nico and JR, they're older now, so they're checking me.

Like, nigga, you sound they checking me in the kitchen in conversations.

Yo, Bobs, you sounded sounding like an idiot over the bar see but see but i feel like if you can't sound stupid talking to your girl and who can you sound stupid talking to i agree i should be able to throw some wild share at the wall all right

and man let me just hear your response but don't don't get tired like you intentionally are doing that

shit sound like a headache and don't like i listen to you and flip because you got to see if your wife head is on a swivel nigga what you got to see if you understand i disagree with what what he's saying

I don't know why he's just saying.

Yeah, no, it's not tiring.

You gotta understand the formula.

I think it's crazy.

You don't think it's tiring to her?

You bought a whole new iPad for your girl's car.

That was

12 years ago.

Don't talk to me.

You talk about old shit.

What y'all talking about?

12 years ago?

Yeah.

This nigga mad about a bet from four years ago.

You made it.

Wait, hold up.

I'm old enough.

12 years ain't that long.

That's 2013, nigga.

I was outside.

That ain't eons ago like the kids make it.

I'm talking about picking a fight.

I'm talking about just just no, no, no, no, no, not picking a fight.

You're not picking a fight.

You're throwing some wild.

No, but this is a junior conversation.

No, that's during a fight.

We didn't pick a fight.

Your girl brought me to the fight.

So we picked a fight already.

Yeah, we're in the fight.

I'm trying to explain shit.

Yes.

So you may say something

that is a little out of.

Like when I was trying to defend Shorty Cooking for me,

I just walk out.

You better than me.

I got threatened.

I can't comment on that.

I got threatened.

I got comment on that.

And then my girl, she tried to be fucking

a psychology major.

And when you go sit over there, that's when you start.

You start smoking again.

That's when you miss the gym and your whole life, your whole life.

When you make one wrong misstep, that's when all your missteps line up.

She was cooking.

Oh, God.

My girl is a psychology major.

I don't put it on.

You know what I love about Sade, though?

Sade, check everything around this nigga if she can.

She gave me a look.

Yo, hey.

So to answer your question, I submit when the only thing I have left to say is, y'all want to do what I want.

I agree.

But I feel bad at it.

Because that's it.

Like, in the relationship.

In the relationship,

it sounds bad.

Sometimes you just want to do what the fuck you want to do.

Man, I told my wife.

You should be allowed to do that from time to time.

I don't want to have to consider you all the time, your ass.

Nigga, you should be allowed to do that from time to time.

But hold on, folks.

You should be.

Hold on.

To say it to your significant other.

It's one of your semantic keys right there.

I'm laughing.

Before I say that,

I'm going to apologize, say I'll correct the behavior.

Because that's when, you can't say to your partner, yo, I want to do what the fuck I want to do.

I feel bad after I say that.

And how would you feel that?

It's nicer ways to say it.

How would a nicer way, nigga?

How would you?

If that was said back.

Yo, I just want to do what I want to do.

And now you can't say it back to me.

Sometimes I need space for myself.

Well, that's the part where I know that I'm wrong, too.

Like, at the part in the discussion where I say, if you was doing what I'm doing to you, I would be gone.

True.

I think she knows that.

But then she replies with like feelings.

Hey, how do you think that makes me feel when you say that?

And then I'm like,

oh, you actually said some shit like that.

I thought this was like.

This is Joe Button.

Have you met Joe Button?

Joseph Anthony Button.

What's wrong with y'all niggas?

Ish.

He's a crazy person.

Yes.

That's being honest.

Yeah.

No, my partner, my girl holds me accountable and she will hold the mirror up when I say some nutshit.

Again, I feel like I should be able to be my unadulterated self with my partner.

If my wife did half the shit I did, nigga, nigga, I might fucking fall into a tunnel, nigga.

I tell her that.

Hell you, my girl.

What the fuck would I want to be with me for?

You want to be properly, you want to be

politically correct.

Get him flippy pandering.

No, he's a, no, I don't think he's pandering.

I think he's a leader.

He's a great man.

What I'm saying is that you say things like that,

I feel bad after I say it.

That's what I'm trying to tell y'all.

I won't say that.

Yeah, they're called in shit.

I wouldn't say that at all.

I would get that.

But the recognition

is not shit.

If you think about it, you're not being honest, which goes back to his point.

If I think to my wife that, yo, hey, you smell something?

No, no, no, no, no, I'm not cooking them.

That's my man.

I like banana.

No, not at all.

Nothing is cooking.

If I felt this way,

your theory earlier was, say how you feel.

So I feel like I can do whatever I want.

don't tell me what to do and you can't do what I do

That's not what I said earlier.

I said when my girlfriend asks me a direct question and I give an answer contrary to how I really feel that's a lie.

That's what I said earlier,

but I'm saying this if I know that something I'm doing

I wouldn't want done to me.

I don't now tell my girl, look, if you did all the shit I was doing, bitch, I'll leave you.

I don't call that bitch.

Oh, okay.

It fucked the bitch part.

you can take that out yo I would leave you that means basically I have a power and a control over you that you don't work for me

say fuck you we on air so get it off yeah get it out your system

you think I'm lying no I don't think that you are lying that would be broken

no no no one fact

well admitting facts

and thought long enough me to think of something that you do to your girl that I wouldn't want done to me yeah true

but I might tell my girl it.

You're not being honest.

He's thinking you would keep it in his head.

I'm not going to say I would on my list.

The shit that I'm doing, you hit recorder.

Yo, maybe like a list?

No, when somebody asks you a direct question, you omit what you really want.

But your wife would ask you, your girl would say, why did you do that?

But my answer to her would be.

But wait.

Now, do you predict this to 375?

Is it possible that he looks at that list as an intrusive thought?

Which is what you're trying to omit from the conversation.

What?

One was asked a direct question.

That is

putting in a moment.

Who gets muffins, you say?

Nobody freeze.

Niggas starving.

Your girl could still say to you, why did you do this?

And the truth would be, I did it because I want to do it.

But the real thing to do is not to tell her that.

It's to keep that to yourself because it can hurt her feelings.

So how do you answer that?

Why did you do it?

well i answer it the way i just said it and my wife cursed me out and then i i feel bad because she don't give up she's not with none of that shit that i know you when you was broke you was a bum she started talking her shit and she's telling the truth and i have to eat that

so i answer

so now in in the future because of my feelings that's a good one it was yeah i said again

Nothing, it wasn't against you.

Keep going.

Yeah, because of my feelings.

No, no, no, me, we good.

Because I don't want my feelings hurt because what she said, I don't go down that route unless I'm ready to hear that.

I got to prepare for that.

I don't like to hear the truth from my wife.

Yo, nigga, you was nothing, nigga.

We sleeping on the floor, nigga, you couldn't do nothing.

Nigga, I gave you my checks, nigga, and all that shit.

She don't say, nigga, but old.

You're just flipping the income tax?

No, I gave you all that to get where you at now.

And look how you talk.

Then you got your children listening.

So my daughter will come like, yo, I heard that.

That sounds crazy.

I don't believe in that.

And my daughter's telling me this.

I don't believe in that.

I will never want to date a man that thinks like that.

I don't believe in it.

This is my daughter.

So then now there are real things in your life that's happening that make you have to feel to yourself.

And while in the moment, I'm just being a dickhead to my wife just to win an argument.

Because in all reality, I may not feel that way, but I do feel that way.

You just want to win.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You just want to win.

And I do do what I want.

But it's not good when you're in a household full of people.

I learned that when I do what I want, the worst case scenario lies ahead.

True.

It's best for me to just do what she wants me to do.

Nigga, you madly get it.

That's how I do it.

Wait till you get your door.

I ain't wrong.

I mean, that's what I'm saying.

It's the safest choice.

That's what I'm saying.

So I'm chilling.

Consideration and communication, bro.

She knows what's best for me.

I don't really sometimes.

We don't know what's best for ourselves.

Yeah.

It takes somebody else from the outside to look.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's true.

Caribbean shit.

You heard?

Also, in music.

Tiana Taylor announced that her album is coming in August.

I wasn't going to report on that because that's my friend, so I ain't want to look like I'm like, hey, Tiana.

But the name of the album is Escape Room.

That makes me want to report on it now.

Because I tried to tell Iman ass.

And now,

see?

That's why I don't date girls that could write a song.

Well, not really.

Not really.

There's a couple.

There was a couple where

Cisco tried to give, Cisco and Ish tried to give

a song one time.

Why did he say that?

Ish denied that, boy.

The co-wrote devil.

You got a song on it?

Yeah.

You lie.

That's your sleep a little.

It's out there.

I'm going to go listen to something.

You got it.

Anyway, I told y'all a few months ago, my baby moms wanted to come on this part.

And I was like, all right, sure.

But then I ain't hear nothing else.

So like last month, I dropped them off.

I was like, hey.

Like, what's up?

She was like,

I was like,

yeah, niggas pushed you back.

No, niggas pushed.

Goddamn and label.

I know, girl.

Yeah, I know the fuck out.

I know Nick Cannon is average party.

I know how much fun I have with just two baby moms.

If you had nine people to just fucking

spin around,

and they gotta listen to you.

Yo, nine joints.

Come on.

Yo, and you were for B.

Oh, you didn't make it?

What?

You didn't make it on dancing with the stars this time, huh?

Canada is having a blast.

You didn't make it on dancing with the stars this time.

It might have been your dance.

Yo, trolling your baby mom is fun, yo.

It is.

It's fun.

I'm glad we got past that stage where everybody, girl, think that everybody is trying to fuck their baby moms.

I don't know where that came from, but

not like it used to be.

Not like Easter.

Oh, okay.

No, not like Easter.

Shit, y'all niggas talking from privilege.

It's niggas going through that.

Not like it used to be.

Nigga, you ain't going through it.

I'm not.

Because I never.

That's a good

story from what it used to be.

He's never gonna go.

No, I'm saying that.

He can't see through his home, nigga.

No, some of my niggas be telling me that they go through that.

Like, he's right.

Yeah, some of my niggas be telling me that.

Well, some of your niggas are fucking the jiggies.

No, I'm not.

The ones that's not.

The ones that's not.

I think that's the problem.

That's the problem.

Oh,

shit.

I mean,

you got a point.

Anywho,

an album called Escape Route.

Room.

Room.

Sorry, that's my shit.

That too.

An album called Escape Room, fresh off of a separation.

Divorce.

Divorce, my nigga.

Divorce in a contentious way.

Yeah.

A nasty breakup.

That is.

And my new nigga is Aaron Pierre.

Nigga.

When did that Darren Waller interview come out so we could watch it?

See you

June 10th.

Why are you?

She's in La La Land.

I'm not in fucking La La Land.

Stop touching a hat, man.

You can't do that.

Girl,

yo.

She is

running.

She's.

She was at Bruce McNigger.

Yeah, don't, nigga.

Help me.

Anyway.

She's good.

What was we saying?

Escape Room.

Tiana album.

And if Cardi ever make an album, some girl on Twitter was like, she's going to make the Spanish version of lemonade.

It's going to be, what'd you say, Sangria?

I brewed the tweet.

But if we ever get that Cardi album, Offset going to get it.

And this Tiana album this August, it's happening.

It's happening.

If Cardi drop an album, he's going to get it.

I'm excited.

I think Tiana's first two projects are, she has easily the most underrated catalog.

A thousand percent.

Yes.

Like her first two albums, incredible.

Cult classic to me.

Total playthroughs.

Cult classic to me.

She is phenomenal.

The only person still giving us some of that Janet Jackson.

Janet Jackson vibe.

Can't wait for it.

That's all I have in music.

I don't have anything else in music that needs our attention.

Let's go, Mel.

You know, just speaking of like, you know, Lenny Kravitz.

No, not Lenny Knox.

Not Lenny Kravitz.

Another very talented female vocalist.

Money Long made the blogs this week because she went live and I guess somebody was in her comments trolling her and she made a couple of comments about

black women always seeming to be the ones that disparage her.

Like, I have the clip lined up, so I don't want to like speak for her.

Can we play it?

Do you mind?

Oh, yeah, but go ahead.

You don't?

You can't.

Fuck up.

You can't say that.

You marked it.

Of course I do, Mario.

I feel like you're not.

Mail, you be asking the trickiest questions.

But I just, I have like a lead-up question for all of you to this.

I feel like I know where Ice stands on this, but I'm just going to black.

I stand with ice.

We know.

Careful.

It's only ever black women that say they don't like my personality.

You notice that?

Because I'm being myself.

I'm acting just like your raggedy mom and your aunties.

With them asshy cankles.

This is how they act.

But it's not wrong wrong with my personality.

You don't like me, you don't like yourself.

Exactly.

Take a look in the mirror, hoe, you don't like you.

She sounds charming.

She's great.

Who are you?

They be like, Ushi, so what you want me to do?

What it is is you're a bully and you're used to people laying down letting them do whatever.

I'm not that.

It's never going to be that.

Okay, so basically she says, like, in the,

she compares it to your raggedy mom and your aunties and shit like that.

So a lot of people.

Ashie Kankles.

And Ashie Kankles.

Yeah, so she's, she's,

it's divided in terms of like criticism.

People saying, well, I mean, if it don't apply, let it fly kind of thing.

And then other people are like, yo, this is your fan base.

You're talking about black women.

And, you know, now you're insulting us.

So you're canceled, et cetera, et cetera.

Who's criticizing her?

I'm.

In her live, she's basically saying, the only criticism that I receive is from black women being a black woman.

You know, and so people are just like, well, that's your fan base.

So

I guess in in certain terms, they're basically saying you can't respond to the criticism of the people from your fan base.

What was the question?

I'm sorry, man.

You said you had a follow-up question for us.

Like, in terms of being forward.

What?

Wait.

Are you ordering food right now, nigga?

Turn the money.

I ain't gonna lie to the same shit, boy.

But she.

I'm talking.

When I start talking, y'all know that DoorDash shit.

I'll be responding to emails in the.

Y'all ain't shit, Mel.

I'm listening.

We're listening, it's so disrespectful.

I'll be bodying that shit, nigga.

You give us such a long time,

you give us a long runway, so get your shit off.

They just take a long time.

Yeah.

It takes like an hour to learn.

It's like the newer runway.

You body that shit, Mel.

Go ahead.

Hold on a question about how we feel.

No, please, Mel, please.

In terms of being forward-facing and responding to criticism, like that's just.

What do you think?

That's what

I'm saying.

laughing.

That's why I be laughing.

I don't want no smoke.

I just want to know what she thinks.

What do you

think?

Yo, ass

finally think of smoke.

What do you think?

As a black woman, I love Imani's home.

I think your opinion is the most important.

That's why I'm asking.

I want to continue.

I'm going to hear more room full of guys.

Yeah, I want to contribute too, but I just want to know what you think.

I have a thoughts, I think.

I think that...

I think she's absolutely right.

I think that there's a lot of times most...

Be a black bitches.

No, I would never say that, but I would say that the majority of criticism that I have received over the course of my career has been from black people from Ella Buffett.

Let me ask a question about that.

Shut up.

Oh, shit.

Let me ask a question about that.

That's totally different.

Totally-ish.

Watch your fucking look.

That's totally different.

About you, man.

And

we could go back to that.

It's totally different.

Why are you talking to me?

I didn't say that.

Because you looked at him like he was cooking right now with that fucking gun.

I didn't laugh neither, nigga.

He said,

you were not cooking.

I'm not cooking at all.

See how bad.

Just in case, nigga.

Crazy.

That was your last breath that you took.

No laugh.

What you talking about, boy?

Anyway.

No, I'm taking this topic seriously.

I want to engage seriously about this.

Don't wink at me, motherfucker.

I know it's true that we can be the hardest on each other.

Right.

But I'm also wondering, I mean this with all due respect, like

is it possible that white people just don't know who you are?

I don't mean you.

I mean, like, money or you or whoever.

Like, this is of the audience.

Or black.

Shut up, Corey.

Yo, stop.

No, that's not funny, Corey.

Are we really going to act like people don't know who she is?

Like, she's literally sat right here on one of the biggest platforms in the fucking world.

That's not what I mean by that.

So, seriously.

No, no, I'm not even you.

I'm addressing the fucking room, giggling up a storm like, you know, is it possible people don't know who she is?

If people didn't know who she is, Joe Budden would not have had her up on this fucking platform.

Let's go, Mel.

For sure.

No, but I'm saying the primary base is very choosy about who the fuck comes up with.

That's true.

I'm just saying the primary base is black people.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, nigga.

So, like, for example, if Kanye West is.

You had them people on your stream, nigga, fucking performing, nigga.

Would just sleep on his dream again.

You will not.

Stay right, man.

What do you want me to do?

You want me to wake it at night?

You'll be wake at the daytime.

Brother Bob, I'm sorry.

No, I'm just saying, like,

I'm sure Money Long is right to the extent that we're hardest on each other, and and I'm sure she's gotten some unfair criticism.

But I'm saying part of the disproportionality of it might just be that the bulk of her base is black and probably black women in the same way your primary audience is gonna be black people, right?

Same for me, you know what I mean?

So, yeah, most of you know, so there's certain criticism I'm gonna get from certain kinds of people.

It'll be like me saying, most of the people that criticize me are academics.

Well, yeah, because that's who I've been talking to.

So, I'm just wondering how much of it is that.

Yeah, it's a numbers game.

I'm just asking, because I don't know enough about Money Long to know.

I'm asking, like, how much of it is that?

ML, to your point, a lot of people outside of

black people might know her music and not know it's her.

It's possible.

Yeah.

That's what I mean.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.

She has certain songs that's like, oh, I know that record.

Oh, it's her?

Oh, I didn't know that.

So that she gets a lot of that.

Do you feel like there's any validity to Money Long's statement?

Probably.

I don't know enough about her to have an opinion.

No, I'm just talking about people in your field that look like you, dress like you.

Yeah, as I said, we're the hardest to each other.

Yeah.

So what I'm saying is that shouldn't the real question be, how do we navigate through that?

How do you handle that?

That should be the question instead of that.

One of the things that I noticed.

And why are we so quick to criticize people who look like us?

I mean, I think that's another.

That is a very real question.

And one of the things that I thought about her when she came up here is she was very no-nonsense.

Like, she was very like,

I'm her.

And I'm, and that's it.

Like, you can't tell me nothing about myself kind of thing.

So she looked like the kind of person that would buck back at criticism.

You know, for me personally, I've always audited.

Okay, I'm not, I'm not doing this audit.

No, no, no, no.

I hate when you two do this.

No, no, no, no, freaking fried.

In fairness, this time.

Calling you out on your shit.

Nothing do with you, man.

I swear.

No, no, no.

And this time, Joe Flip.

Joe wasn't even listening to Flip.

He was, he was still trying to get.

Yeah, and I'm trying to get it.

He's trying to get expression.

He was trying to get expression.

I'm trying to get the phone from him, Mark.

No, I know.

You're trying to get the phone and he was.

I'm going to order from him.

You was trying to do priority delivery.

You were just trying to get in here.

I'm going to order something.

Please.

Go ahead.

Go Go ahead, ma'am.

I was just basically saying that she has a different stance on shit.

She seems like I'm not gonna take criticism.

I'm not gonna keep have people disparaging me on my fucking platform, and I'm gonna come for you the same way you're coming for me.

That's not the way I personally would have handled it because that's I'm I've been conditioned by this industry to always be like, you know, perfect and poised and hide how I'm truly fucking feeling.

Yeah, but I felt the exact same way that she has felt.

I'm like, yo, like, I can't fucking win for losing.

There was a moment when you

haven't you voiced that sooner.

Listen, what was it, two episodes ago?

I basically said I had a whole, you know, kind of light bulb epiphany moment as to how much I edit and audit the things inside my head for years and years and years.

You were sitting right where Mark was.

And you were like looking at me like I was a fucking science experiment.

And I literally said that, you know, that I am not going to do that anymore because I'm just, I'm sitting in who I am.

And I'm just like going to adopt a not give a fuck attitude that I never really had before.

I acted like I had it, but I didn't.

You know, so I always erred on the side of caution.

She's no longer filtering herself, neither.

She's expressing how she feels.

Yeah, it feels better.

It feels better to express how you feel rather than feeling like

you can't express yourself for fear of retribution or people canceling you or whatever the case is.

Those shit niggas got a stromboli.

Yo, stop!

You know what?

Order that from me, bitch.

Disco Mel?

You do order Stromi.

I had it with your strawberry.

Order me the goddamn strombolly.

Yo, why you press the order, nigga?

Extra beef, bitch.

Why you ordered it, nigga?

He clicked the order.

I wanted to put my order in, man.

I got to send it back.

God damn it.

When you should see a strong bowlie on a menu.

All right, forget it.

That was a big, big thing.

Anyway, it's disrespect.

It really wasn't, but okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

Anyway, man.

Tommy's.

Oh, my God.

I love her.

Did you have anything you wanted to add to this?

No.

Corey, you don't have a mic, just fuck us.

I did, but I think

you said everything, nigga.

You wrapped it up for us.

You said everything.

What's the nigga from the Apollo?

You said, man.

Honestly,

there's no way to fire Mel.

If Mel leaves this show, an integral part,

walk out that door with her.

Mel.

I'm not going anywhere.

Listen, I move out the way when I could tell Mel got a topic because somebody said something she wanted to say, but didn't say it.

Facts.

When Mel got a topic, because somebody said something that she wanted to say, and she could use them to god clear.

Did you use them as like a battering ram?

Not a battering ram though.

More like a ventriloquist.

Ooh, I like that.

Girl.

What?

Lastly, in music,

I seen the

LA rapper list.

The compliments list.

It's not my business.

Okay.

I saw Game reply.

I saw him create a new list.

What number was Game on that original list?

I want to say 11, I think.

Wherever he was, he disagreed.

He didn't care for that, yeah.

And he put out a list.

What I do like about his list is their list I saw 1 to 50.

His list was 1 to 100.

I like that.

Like, you know more LA rappers than Complex.

Or I included more niggas that did.

So you get to it.

So it's not you just highlighting you.

On Games List,

where did he fall?

He was number five.

45 on his list.

He put himself as number five?

Yeah.

How do you guys feel about that?

I'm not mad at him being five.

I got to see who the four are.

I respect just just not putting yourself as number one.

Pac, Snoop, Cube, Kendrick.

Pac?

I have some criterion questions.

Crazy.

And the complex list didn't have Pac on it.

Yeah, because they didn't put Pac, for example, on the complex list because he's not an LA rapper.

I mean, in lots of ways.

Even West Coast rappers, to me, is

more palatable.

It's more plausible, but that's a stretch.

I mean, he moved to Marin County when he was 16.

But we could say the same thing about people who grew up, like, what's his name who grew up in Philly, from Philly, but grew to the West Coast, corrupt, right?

So I get it.

But number five for me,

he would be higher on my list.

Would he be?

Yeah, he'd be.

He would have been three on my list, but but four, I'm sorry, four on my list, but I wouldn't have had Pac because I don't consider Pac a LA artist.

So I'm gonna give you the top 10.

I'll give you complex.

Just I'm just gonna do 10 and then I'll give you games.

10, Nipsey Hustle.

This is complex list.

9, Easy E, 8, Be Real, 7, Ice T, 6, DJ Quick, 5 Tyler the Creator, 4 Dr.

Dre, 3 Ice Cube, 2 Snoop Dogg, 1 Kendrick Lamar.

And then on games list, top 10 is

Exhibit,

Easy E, Dr.

Dre, DJ Quick, Corrupt, The Game, Kendrick Lamar, Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, and Pac.

Yeah, nah, that's enough for me.

For one, I think EZ E is too high.

I think EZ E is too high.

Forget about the fact that he, I'm not even talking about the fact that the Ice Q wrote everything, right?

Which is a big part of it for me.

And that's not like a

urban legend.

That's just a fact.

That's a fact.

It is just a fact.

Easy ain't had the greatest flow or delivery.

Certainly to me, not enough to be above Exhibit, not to be above Nipsey, not to be above J-Rock, not to be above Schoolboy.

I mean, there's probably 30 people I put in front of Eazy E

as a rapper.

And I give him some credit because of the time and the era and what he meant to that era.

Yeah, that's a lot of credit.

That's a lot.

Go there over the day.

but he didn't write it and he didn't deliver it well neither did dr dre i think dre's too high for the same reason we gonna say i don't like the although dre was a lot better rapper than easy eat to say

easy didn't deliver it well was like last minute yeah it's kind of am i wrong am i wrong you think yeah yeah you think you think easy eat flowed on beat for example you're wrong go back and listen to easy ease music go back go back and listen to it listen easy is one of my personal easy rapes a lot yeah but

it sounded good though

I don't think I don't I don't think he's terrible I just think there's a lot of people better you know what I mean he wouldn't be I don't think there's only

people in the world who want to straight out views.

Go listen to Straight Out of Compton and all that.

Hey, you want to be like, boys in the hood, all of that shit.

Yeah, shit.

Here come that motherfucking Compton.

Nothing about that was awful.

Nothing shot.

Niggas.

Like the verses I know him from in 90, 91, 92, when my older brother was doing it

in WA, what he was saying on those joints, I think his voice is too instrumental to hip-hop as a whole.

Straight out of Compton.

Another brother that'll smother your mother.

He wasn't awful.

I can't shit on him.

I think what you're saying is like, in hindsight, in hindsight, we've got everything that came out.

That voice and the flow and all.

But in its time, he was shit.

Nigga, I was a little bit of a shit.

And again,

I'm not telling L.A.

people how to feel about no LA people.

I know my list would go differently.

My list would go different.

Because when they do these lists, that complex list said LA's best rappers.

So I guess it's impossible today for people to put names on a best rapper list without mentioning your accolades and how much you achieved in rapping music.

Yeah, right.

See, for me, I don't always do that as far as rap goes.

As far as rap ability, when you do the, when you talk about best rappers.

My list be more so the, you have ears.

Yeah, Razcas.

You have.

And I want to say,

I'm glad you said that.

Razcass.

I want to see that.

Razcas

from the athletes.

The athlete podcast today, when they mention players and how great they were, they go to what version of them they're talking about.

And I think that should happen more in hip-hop.

Like, when they talk about Dwight Howard, it's like 2012 Dwight Howard.

In hip-hop, like you say, Raz Caz, Solo Nice Raz Caz, you're not naming 20

rappers.

You're not naming

a bunch of niggas that raise your hands.

You still rap screen.

You're not naming 20 West Coast rappers that rap better than Crook.

Facts.

Agreed, that's true.

You're not naming, I don't care whose list.

You're not naming 20

corrupt is on the corner.

That rap list crochet.

And it still sells good.

Yes.

Like, corrupt was something different back then.

Death certificate, Ice Cube, shit.

And

Predator and Death Certificate and America.

All of that.

Ice Cube should be number one.

Ice Cube should be solidified regardless.

Yeah, Ice Cube is number one for me.

Ice Cube.

But then

I think criteria comes into play.

Right.

I think criteria has to come into play because when you start talking about Snoop and what Snoop meant to hip-hop, and I can only imagine what he meant to West Coast California hip-hop.

Then Ice Cube to me raps better than Snoop, but that don't still mean Ice Cube would be higher on the list.

Ice Cube raps better than Snoop.

Ice Cube has a better discography than Snoop.

Ice Cube, but still.

And the slider markers.

Nothing.

Yes, he does.

I don't know.

Yes, he does.

His own personal.

Yes, personal.

Personally.

Personal.

Percentage-wise, but I don't know about

if you take Ice Cube's three biggest albums, right?

I love Ice Cube.

And then you take Snoop to me.

Three biggest albums.

What are Snoop's three biggest albums?

Doggy Styles.

Don't name the other ones.

We got to go to one with the one with

You don't know the name of that.

That's my point.

I was dropping like it's hot on it.

Rhythmic Gangster?

Yeah.

We got to go there, and then we got to go.

What would the third one be?

That's my favorite.

We can go Ice Cube.

My album's most wanted.

Discography's not an album.

That was just a soundtrack to the movie.

That's not his.

Discography, by the way, was the case, is a song on Doggy Styles.

Discography's singles, too.

Discography includes singles, too, and features.

If you go to someone's discography, it doesn't just show their albums.

That's where Snoop catches up, I think, and actually passes.

He passes them.

He doesn't.

Because you look at the crown.

You look at Snoop on the corner.

He doesn't, because now you got to bring NWA into this argument.

So when you mix NWA and I was cube in this argument, he's going to lead Snoop by a mile.

I'm sorry.

I don't disagree with that.

I disagree with that.

I mean,

I think the answer is Ice Cube too, but

I don't disagree.

I just don't know if it's true.

I'm saying, I think Snoop is bigger on the list based on his impact in hip-hop and West Coast hip-hop.

Yeah, but we do it.

But if we talk about Ice Cube as a rapper, bro, Ice Cube is one of them, and he don't get the credit.

There was a time when Ice Cube was considered one of the top two or three greatest rappers ever.

Every rapper in the world at one point.

I'm gonna fuck it.

Y'all suit me up.

Y'all suit me up.

Sip the juice.

I got enough to go around.

Walk from the sidewalk while I'm street talking.

Brooklyn.

They're only in Manhattan and never been took it.

Go up town in the box.

I'm going to down the stroke on the aisle of the coupe and lay around.

I thought you was about to spit a freestyle when it beat dropped.

You got an instrumental.

He can't rap over that temple.

Give me something better.

Give me an instrumental for you.

Snoop Dogg is the West Coast version of Buster Rhymes.

Yeah.

I see that.

I'm not mad at that.

I'm not mad at that at all.

In that.

Buster ain't got no doggy style, though, but character.

That's true.

No.

No, he don't.

He don't have a dog style.

He doesn't.

He don't even know.

He He don't.

I agree.

He don't have a dog style.

But I think

both of them, I think most best rapper lists are made without either one of them in the top 15.

When it comes to rapping.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would agree.

Like they both have accomplished, and as far as songs and features, and they did all of that shit.

But when people are putting these lists together, I think niggas misplaced Snoop the way they misplaced Buster Ryan.

I don't hear that happen with Ice Cube.

I never hear that happen with Ice Cube.

When niggas name a top 10, top 15, Ice Cube named both coasts.

And the second is there.

The second is not up there.

Like you said, both coasts.

Somebody's saying, yo, where's Ice Cube?

Where's Ice Cube?

I agree.

I agree.

Down south, yo, where's Ice Cube?

East Coast, where's Ice Cube?

So that's why I said I don't know what the criteria was.

I don't know what the criteria was, but it's not a bunch of niggas that you could just say flat out can rap better than Ice Cube, bro.

I don't want Dre cube.

I'm 50.

I personally exclude Dre and to Mark's point easy just because it's like the rapper, did you write your rhymes thing personally for you?

Gotcha.

But

if we count that out, then Dre has to be somewhere in that top something.

What?

Top what, though?

Top 10, somewhere in the top 10.

Just from the Craddock alone, I mean, you got to be in the conversation.

Snoop wrote 100% of his rhymes.

No, he had other people around him.

He said.

Oh, of Snoop's.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Snoop has never.

Snoop has talked about people who've been writing.

No, he's talked about people right now.

He teached up on Jay Rhythm.

Jay wrote some shit for him.

Oh, he was definitely mother.

The J.

No, but Snoop in his most recent album, he did an interview.

He's had interviews with me where he said, I asked somebody to write him an album for me.

He's told me that personally on the interview, so I can, it's not ratten.

He's documented saying that.

Yeah.

But that's new shit.

He didn't do that in his prime.

I mean, he's 50 now, yeah.

I think a lot of rappers at 50, 55 say, you know what, I'm cool, just making music now.

In his prime, to my knowledge, Snoop did write all his rhymes.

Listen, I won't say nothing bad about none of the people we talk about.

No, it's all rappers.

They're not all goats.

No, they are all goat litches.

And again, I think that's L.A.

business.

I wouldn't want LA niggas chiming in talking about a New York list.

Even though WAC 100 and a few niggas jumped out there talking about game is better than Jadakiss, I guess, when they were doing their equivalency thing or trying to help people understand.

So then that conversation tried to take off for a minute.

I wrote it down just in case anybody here wanted to try to make a compelling argument that the game is better than Jadakiss or should be ranked higher on all-time rapper lists.

I'll entertain it.

I'll entertain it.

I think if we're talking about strictly like, if we get back to the technical rap shit, I would absolutely hear that argument.

I think Jada Kiss, as amazing as he is, rhymes fairly similar for the most part.

What do we care?

Game can rap a whole bunch of different styles and

fast, slow tempo doesn't really matter.

What about what's being said?

They both got bars.

They both got bars.

I could understand the argument.

I don't know that I would.

Kiss would be higher on my list, probably, but I don't think it's a bad argument.

If somebody said the opposite, I wouldn't argue with them.

I wouldn't fight.

That wouldn't be the hill I would die on.

I think Game is an underrated rapper.

Very much so.

Game is really good at rapping.

No, but he's highly underrated.

Again, based on we looking at more of a personality or a public figure.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, more so than, yo, this nigga can really, really rap.

And it became this thing to say he name drops all the time all the verses, which I always thought was an unfair criticism.

One, all rappers have their own ticks and their own things.

But I think that's dope.

I think it's a dope style thing.

I mean, it'd be like saying push all you talk about drugs every so.

I mean, like, people do things.

And I don't think that that's a problem, but I hear a lot.

And when we used to write a lot about him, we would, it became a thing for music journalists to say all the time as if that was like a demand against.

Yeah, and I'm like, that's how he raps.

See, I think they both are great rappers.

I think where game edges Jadakiss is game can make an album.

His songs.

No, an album.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

That's not bad.

Jadakiss, as much as I love Kiss, Kiss is a great

16-bar rapper.

He will give you amazing verses, but when it comes down to making an actual album top to bottom, he don't have it.

Now,

50 would step in and say, neither does Game.

That's not true.

You could take documentary off the table.

He still has

other great, great, not good.

Ice is right.

His third album is great.

You're right.

You're right, you're right.

Ice is right.

His third album is really great.

Jesus Peace, amazing album.

I love Jesus' piece.

That's really good.

That's fair.

LAX, amazing album.

Doctor's Advocate, amazing album.

He can doc too.

Especially when you put them both together, 2 and 2.5.

Game can do that over and over and over again.

So you

game as a better MC on the list anyway than Jadakiss.

The overall, yes, I would have him.

But if we're just talking about

lyrics, lyrics, because Jadakiss got more classic verses.

Right when I was about to say that I wouldn't even dignify a conversation with anybody that has game rank higher than Jadakiss, you're my friend, so I'll do it.

I'm just saying, overall.

Like I said, when we talk about it, I do sliders.

Yeah, I agree with I.

Who's y'all?

I'm not saying that.

You so raspy, you can't.

I'm with you.

Talking about Imani.

Well, he made another good point.

What did he say?

What amani says?

Imani.

Iman Hassan is so raspy.

Jadakiss is labeled.

And it still is.

And it's still there for a lifetime.

My boy like that 10 album deal.

I got that perpetuity.

Ice, I agree with you.

Game

makes a better album than Jadakiss.

I won't argue with it.

Okay.

I want to, but I won't.

What would be your argument?

I mean, if you took...

So there's an argument to have that Jadakiss makes better albums than you.

I don't think that Jadakiss' first album is as bad as people say it is.

His albums are bad.

I want to be clear.

I don't like that album.

He is one classic album.

He might not have the...

All right, but I don't think he has the first album.

That's not the needed to be.

I think it's tough to make a good album, and Jadakiss, to me, has good albums.

I agree.

Now, I may like a game album more, but when we're talking about impact, like you said, versus over the span of your career,

Jadakiss comes out more impactful than all of the game albums put together.

See, I'm calling just solo because, again, a lot of the Jadakiss stuff, once we do that, if we're just saying rapping,

you got to count the lock shit in there.

You got to count a lot of that.

I'm talking about just solo, Jadakiss, everything you've done, solo game, everything you've done.

I could see the argument where a game would be, and it might be one spot.

It ain't like it's leaps and bounds.

They're definitely on the same level.

They're close.

They're not anywhere near on the same level.

They're on the same tier of the list.

I'm saying because they're on the same tier of the list.

They're not on the same tier of the list.

Really?

Jada Kiss is a top 25 MC no matter who you talk to.

Game is a top 50 MC.

And I think that's too low a ranking.

Yeah, I don't have to.

I think if you got him.

He ain't top 50 to me.

All right, where is he?

Right, like I said, him and Kiss are right there.

So

when would you have him?

If you got Kiss's top 25, I'm not sure if you're not.

No, no, no, no, no.

Fuck where?

Where do you have him at?

Where would you have him at?

I would have to really sit down and do this this list and you know we talk about this a lot it's hard to do these lists

I'm talking to somebody that's done this list a million times it's gonna be tough for you to put game

uh higher than 35 on an all-time list but you two people would have Jadakiss top 25 all-time he'd be toward the bottom of my top 25 so I mean I guess if what I'm saying and you're right a 10 slot difference that's not the biggest difference that's what I'm saying maybe

56 yeah no it's not it's not that far

see I think 10 10 slots is enough.

Jadic is 100%.

They're weighted slots, too.

They're weighted slots, too, like the NFL draft or something.

Yeah, yo.

I think

there's a lot of people that could be in the 30s.

Not a lot of people that could be in 20s and 10s.

And I think

once you itemize the criteria that you're picking the list from, that matters.

So if you go into ISIS criteria to say, yo, the albums that you put out over the tenure of your career, game moves up that list.

Yeah, sure.

I don't like

soul.

that.

Not soul.

Not so.

Not if you watch the Jadica versus when we start talking greatest of all.

If you watch the Jadica's versus, you don't think nothing about a game.

Yeah,

that's the thing with

using the album as a higher weight in the discography.

I know, but let me finish my thought.

When you hold the album in a higher

regard than singles or verses, it's not realistic.

Because if you're doing a show or you're doing a battle, all that album shit don't really matter if I got 20 absolute fucking fans.

Game came in, didn't have no crew.

So he had to adopt a crew.

And then we got Solo Game and whatever G of the shit came.

When we are kissed, we gonna make it ain't a lock song.

Fucking niggas that started something ain't a lock song.

When he start just popping up on all of these different artists joint, Benjamin's ain't a lock song.

Like, it's classic records that he was able to hop on because of his affiliations that they stand the test of time.

We're going to make it as a kiss song.

Okay, it ain't lock song.

I'm just saying, taking the locks out of it, he popped up in enough places to wear all of these verses count.

I did real songs with big, no, no made-up shit.

That holds some weight.

Yeah, that holds weight.

I'm not disagreeing.

I'm just saying that I think it's just.

And game don't have a when you take 50 Cent out the picture, and I'm saying this with respect, game, please leave me alone.

Please, I don't want no trouble.

But when you take 50 out the picture, give me the classic game moments.

Songs?

Or moments?

Moments.

Or moments.

I, as a personal favorite,

dude up on the music.

That's my be personal.

Oh, you mean music?

Oh, yeah.

I'm with you.

I want you.

Whoop, do that.

And narrated and recorded.

Musical moments.

I think.

Like kisses on usher throwback.

Yeah.

When Joel said you ain't got joints for the girls, we now had a whole

lot of funny.

That was crazy.

That whole

outside of the documentary, what are the classic game music moments?

It's his albums.

So they are not.

It's his albums, I'm saying.

But even those in that regard, even the albums we talking about, the red album, I love.

I think it's a phenomenal album.

Ain't nobody talking about that album?

True.

But, but.

What's his other one?

Documentary two.

Love that album.

I think game makes better albums than a lot of people, but ain't nobody talking about these albums

And I think a lot of people

want

no smoke, but look

I don't want no smoke Joe what you're saying could come

all you niggas could come off that way And that could be true because of where we are you said nobody talking about them albums That's true out there.

They could be talking about them albums and we just don't know

because we're not there

out there.

I didn't mean to say nobody's talking about it because I'll play one of them shits.

I play them shit I play them

regularly.

I'm saying what are the classic moments, and if they know it out there, then they'll text me and tell me.

That's possible.

Same way them niggas text me to tell me Joey Badass won, but they won't publicly say it.

Them West Coast niggas ain't dumb.

Them is logical, killer niggas over there.

Like, they'll talk to you before they kill you.

They'll talk to you.

They ain't mean.

Yeah, you're right, Bob.

Anyway, not to be circular.

Now I'm done with music.

I'm absolutely done with music.

I'm sorry.

I've been saying that.

There is no more music for me.

We need a little more music, Joe.

I haven't heard another one bites the dust today.

Who?

Joe knows.

Who bit the dust?

I was talking with Ian Schwartzman at 6 in the morning about

this very topic right here.

Mark Maron is ending.

Who's that now?

His podcast, one of the more...

You don't know Mark Maron?

I don't know Mark.

No.

he's a big name for people in the podcast.

Anybody here?

Podcasting Marines.

No.

Y'all know Mark Marin?

What's the name of his show?

WTF.

It's big among podcasters.

Six and a half million.

Fuck me up.

Fuck you up, though.

I know Mark Marin.

I never watched his podcast.

We're in the business.

You got it, big.

Six and a half million listeners, so it's a pretty big one.

And one of the longest running.

Oh, shit.

he's from Jersey City.

I see where I see you.

16 years, yeah,

this man is a comedian and like writer.

I'm aware of his comedic career.

I just didn't, I never watched his podcast.

Oh, so you know who he is?

I know who he is.

Is he another look at his picture?

But he is from Jersey City.

Okay.

Nobody's perfect.

Nobody's perfect.

But

yeah, Joe,

it seems like you got a lot of music smoke for the black podcast to go down.

But the white man pop up with his little lad is absolutely disgusting.

And now you ain't got no music.

That's the white man now.

That's it right now.

Yeah, it's OG.

Oh, no, yeah, no.

My mom is on a cruise, so I got to make sure she's not drowning.

Oh, wait, hold up.

Because she knows if somebody knows it's Tuesday, it's her.

Mark, that was really disgusting.

My

hello?

Oh, she pocketed down.

I don't even have no bubbles, so all right.

Stop it.

Yo, sometimes when people butt down, when people butt down me, I still listen to make sure they not be immerting.

No, I'll listen.

Or they might be into some other shit.

They would be fucking.

Yo,

Mark Marin, I didn't feel like I should play another one bites the dust for because he's a legend and an innovator, and I don't think he got ended.

I think this is him choosing.

Like Quest Love.

He said we're burnt out.

This is his quote.

We have put up a new show every Monday and Thursday for almost 16 years, and we're tired.

We're burnt out and we are utterly satisfied with the work we've done.

So Quest Love, who's a legend and an innovator, who ended his show, we played the music for.

Do we retract that?

Not as long running.

No, no, but your premise was if you're a legend and innovator and you didn't you ended it on your own terms.

Innovator long running.

I mean, I know you got the scholar, so we sick, boss.

Innovator means something different.

No, no, no.

It just sounds like we sick.

We sick.

Tap dancing.

You know what?

Show time.

What's up, John?

Job turkey.

He out there.

Let's get the fuck out of here.

There we go.

That means we, you, yeah.

Yo, just to show you the power of peer pressure, right?

Like,

what if I had a gig lined up with markers or a check coming soon?

Now I gotta play this song.

Get the cork out, nigga.

Yeah, it's fine.

Don't you feel better now?

No, a little bit.

This hurts.

This hurts a little bit.

But you're right, if we played it for Quest Love,

then Mark Marin can get it too.

Yeah.

And I mean, I didn't listen to the pod.

But it's Mark Maron.

I love Mark Maron.

I absolutely love Mark Maron.

But can't change the rules up because, you know, accountability system.

Another one bites to dust.

It's kind of another gotcha moment, I guess, too.

You know what I mean?

We love those up here.

For me, it's...

We love those up here at the Joe Button podcast.

I like doing another one bites to dust with people above us or on our same level, not people below us.

I'm down.

That's when I love it.

I got.

my favorite time to do it.

Punch it down.

It's so much easier.

I don't know.

It just means more people.

You got to chill, though, now.

Colin Coward handed out these checks.

Yeah.

Yeah, you better shut your fucking ass up.

Witty.

Anyway.

What else is going on?

What else is happening out, dear?

Shout out to Mark Marin.

Yeah, yeah.

Because I have a real uncomfortable, homophobic story in my phone, but I don't know if we should get to that here because it's been good vibes.

I mean,

it's pride move.

It is Pride Move.

Yeah, it's true.

I don't know if this is.

This is like kind of goes against it, but at the same time, it's probably important to.

Because Pride Month, we're celebrating LGBTQIA.

But I think it's also important to highlight

bad shit that happens to let people know that it's still not great for everybody.

Fair.

And then that's our way of celebrating.

Fair.

Take it away, Joe.

Well, this story was so disturbing.

This story was absolutely...

Let's see here.

Look at my co-hosts helping me out.

Okay, so I want to read this.

This is from Tristan, the surviving husband of Jonathan Joss, who played John Redcorn on King of the Hill.

And he was murdered.

So I'm going to read this because this is how I first learned of it.

This says, my husband, Jonathan Joss, and I were involved in a shooting while

checking the mail at the site of our former home.

That home was burned down after over two years of threats from people in the area who repeatedly told us they would set it on fire.

We reported these threats to law enforcement multiple times and nothing was done.

Throughout that time, we were harassed regularly by individuals who made it clear they did not accept our relationship.

Much of the harassment was openly homophobic.

When we returned to the site to check our mail, we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view.

This caused both of us severe emotional distress.

We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.

While we were doing this, a man approached us.

He started yelling violent, homophobic slurs at us.

He then raised a gun from his lap and fired.

Jonathan and I had no weapons.

We were not threatening anyone.

We were grieving.

We were standing side by side.

When the man fired, Jonathan pushed me out of the way.

He saved my life.

Jonathan is my husband.

He gave me more love in our life in our time together than most people ever get.

We were newlyweds.

We picked Valentine's Day.

We were in process of looking for a trailer and planning our future.

He was murdered by someone who could not stand the sight of two men loving each other.

I was with him when he passed.

I told him how much he was loved.

To everyone who supported him, his fans, his friends, know that he valued you deeply.

He saw you as family.

My focus now is on protecting Jonathan's legacy and honoring the life we built together.

If your concern is how someone coped with trauma or how loudly they speak when recounting injustice or being ignored by authorities, then you never truly cared about my husband.

Jonathan saved my life.

I will carry that forward.

I will protect what he built.

Wow.

Signed Tristan Kern D.

Gonzalez.

Jesus.

Whatever your sexual preference is, I don't know how you cannot feel that.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, there's nothing to say.

This is disgusting.

Some wild shit.

And it's a reminder that this stuff still happens.

Where was this?

Texas, I believe.

I'm looking at this.

Yeah, in the San Antonio area.

Wow.

Could you imagine that?

No, no.

No.

I can't imagine somebody killing my dog.

Yeah, just a dog.

Putting a dog's skull in the leash in your mailbox.

That's a sick person.

And then killing my husband as we're grieving because we found our dog's skull in the mailbox.

Right.

So somebody killed me.

But somebody that don't just squat it and waited for y'all to come discover.

Exactly.

That's a level of sick that I can't even comprehend.

Did they catch that?

Yeah, did they make any arrests?

I just read this this morning.

I don't know.

They arrested their lives.

Yeah, they did.

Thank God.

I think they arrested, but they said that it wasn't a hate crime.

Yeah, that's bullshit.

It's still first-degree murder.

Yeah.

If you was a dog there and you waited for the motherfuckers to come do that, you plotted and planned that.

And I think they burned the house down.

I'm not positive, but that's what they said.

It was insinuated in that letter.

So the the suspected shooter, his name is Sigfredo Alvarez

Seja, I believe.

Forgive

mispronouncing it, but yeah, that's him.

They got a mugshot of him and

up and whatnot.

You crying now?

That is fucking horrible.

Yeah, yeah, not at all.

And that statement is just, it's heartbreaking.

I got it.

No idea.

And it's just like he just said, like, we're newlywed.

So it's like you think that you're going to spend the rest, like, how, it takes so long to find your person.

You find your person, and then not only do they die, they're murdered in front of you, and literally, all you can do is say goodbye.

Well, no, they push me out, they push you out.

And then they spend in the course of that, they say while we're grieving our

life for nothing.

I ain't do nothing about it.

You're mourning your dog.

Now you're about to mourn your new your husband.

And they did what anybody would do.

Oh, this neighborhood ain't it for us.

We're out.

We try to leave.

They left.

I bet you went to where it was his family's house.

They built built it.

Like his dad built the house for his family or some shit.

So like

it's generational that they were in this neighborhood.

And my fuckers just forced you out.

Right.

That's crazy.

And that's one of the reasons there's certain places I just can never move.

Or

I just can never move.

Working for a tax break.

Y'all got lack of humanity like that.

You don't even know me and you just smoke, you smoke me at the mailbox, nigga.

The bigger issue.

Why did he show up?

No, no, no.

the threats that they got they reported the law enforcement there multiple times and nothing was done about it so it's like everybody's just oh yeah it's what we do out here go ahead that's what they do out there yeah and i know money i know money doesn't bring people back but i hope a huge civil suit comes on that department everybody who ignored everybody the the complaints the the the reports all of that stuff man like that whole police department is guilty in that person's death and whoever else didn't listen it won't i know ain't nothing

i ain't saying it's gonna happen but i i hope it does but that's the problem that whole system is built.

Like, yeah, something needs to happen.

And there should be a federal investigation, too.

This is crazy.

I agree.

This is awful.

And that should be a hate crime.

It is.

Yeah, it should.

Yeah, I'm not necessarily rocking with the we didn't find a hate crime.

Yeah.

That's the textbook definition of a hate crime to me.

I don't give a fuck about what they charge them with, as long as the motherfucker get convicted for the longest amount of time possible.

You know what I'm saying?

Because the first-degree murder might carry more weight than the hate crime.

I don't know.

I think we need to understand that.

What a hate crime gets added on to the

additional charge,

like you'd be 30 if it's this, 40 if it's that.

I don't always love the hate crime thing, but this is

blatant.

Yeah, yeah.

It makes oh, yeah.

I got you, guys.

Easy to just live in your own world and be ignorant to the things other people are faced with.

You know what I mean?

You do some sucker shit like that during fucking Pride month.

Insane.

To send some type of sick message.

I don't want any mom.

I don't want any month.

I don't get what month of this, dog.

That shit don't.

That shit just shit don't matter.

No, I agree with you.

But you didn't do it last month.

And you didn't do it the month before.

It leads people to believe.

You don't know how often they check their pride.

You don't know how long that motherfucking skull has been in the mailbox.

Or how often they check the mail.

You're right.

You're right.

Rest in peace to that man, man.

Let's keep this rolling.

I got more bad news for you.

Yeah, more bad news for you.

More RPGs for you.

For me.

For Knicks fans.

I consider myself one of those.

Make me happy.

Tibbs.

Tibbs is out.

Wait.

Hold on.

Not yet.

Nope.

You being sent out.

Lupin, Lupin.

This is from Shanz.

It's on the ESPN app.

I'm saying a tweet.

Hold up, Parks.

Hold up.

Yes.

This is on the ESPN app.

Told y'all these are created that motherfucker.

Parks man thirsty to tell us to relax.

We're gonna get to you.

We'll get to whatever you say.

What is happening, man?

Excited.

I'm excited.

You know I'm playing the bounce version of Orange.

How about somebody?

You know I'm playing the New Orleans bounce version of Outstanding now.

I'm not gonna lie, I was at a cookout

Memorial Day weekend, and they played Outstanding.

Rome was like, man, it's kind of fucked up.

This song

makes me think if someone died now.

I was like, damn, I didn't really think about that.

Listen, what are you telling me right now about the Knicks?

Tibbs is out, man.

Inspired.

You're being centeled.

I'm not being centeled.

Is that really true?

That can't be true.

No, this is real, dog.

This is from the ESPN app.

CBS Sports.

Shambhat.

He's gone.

Like, I told you he's going to be gone, man.

Trash.

I think that's a bad decision.

You're saying that

you're trying to be funny.

No, I'm not even funny.

I told you.

I think the player's from Mike Malone.

I'm telling you.

That's it.

New Yorker, Astoria.

Let's go.

Yeah, I think that's the one.

The honor and Tom Thibodeau is absolutely crazy to be discussed.

It is.

It is.

I've seen worse.

There's something that we don't know then.

I don't think so.

No, I think it's just something that bad organizations do.

As a Dolphins fan and Knicks fan, I can speak to.

Nobody had the Knicks going to the conference final.

Nobody.

Yeah.

But you know how that goes once you go.

And not only that,

nobody had beaten Indiana more than once.

The whole season.

And they played pretty good, except for the last time.

In the playoffs,

nobody beat Indiana more than one time.

Dog, the Bucs had one.

The Cavs had one.

I don't think the Cavs beat them.

No, the Cavs beat them.

The Cavs beat them.

They won one game three.

Oh, I was talking about doing the right.

Oh, yeah, gotcha.

I'm talking about the playoffs.

Gotcha, gotcha.

This is crazy to me.

That's Jalen Brunson's godfather damn near.

And, dog, even when you started talking about Indiana beating them, those games weren't blowout games.

The Knicks were in.

One was.

No, one of them.

The Knicks were in most of those games that they lost.

Yeah, they were.

There's a couple things I've heard.

Two from a beat writer and one just from Scuttle, but two that I can rely on, and that is that there was some concern about

Tibbs long-term wearing out the locker room, which is what they always say when they get rid of coaches, right?

That he's losing the locker room.

I think there's credence to that.

It's just too early.

And I think he's an old school coach, and these new school players don't necessarily adhere to what's another one that we hear, but another one that's possible.

He's a defense first coach, but there's something very special.

He's real hard-nosed, bro.

And it starts with the rotations.

People feel like he's too hard on the stars, too many minutes on the stars.

And he had the same problem in Chicago, had the same problem.

I mean, everywhere he goes, that's something that trails him.

He plays guys 42 minutes, should play 35.

And then when you get into playoff time, one, they're worn out, and two, it makes the rotations very stuffy.

Everything that y'all are saying is absolutely true.

I just have a hard time treating somebody like that, but it's business, I guess.

The headline from CBS Sports says, Tom Thibodeau resurrected the Knicks, but firing him might be the only way to get to the next level.

I disagree with that.

It might be a Raptor situation.

Remember, Dwayne Casey goes, Nick Nurse comes next year, they win the championship.

I didn't agree with that.

Dwayne Casey was coach of the year that he was David Blatt.

You end up with Tyron Luke.

Cavs win the championship.

I mean, Jackson, Steve Kerr.

It happens.

I think that these, again, as a Dolphins fan, I see this they're trying to fire Mike McDaniel.

The fans in the press are trying to fire Mike McDaniel.

I think it's stupid.

Guys are delivering winning seasons for the first time in 20 years.

Y'all ain't been shit.

Just because they didn't do exactly

what you don't even feel like the Knicks should have the cachet move like that right now.

But now's the time.

You got who they perceive to be a better coach on the market, and I do believe he's going to be the next coach.

And you got to do it now.

If you wait to next year, I would love Mike Malone.

Yeah.

I just don't like firing Tom Thibodeau, who came here.

Why would you love Mike Malone?

I like Mike Malone's a coach, New Yorker.

Let me ask you a question.

I like Malone's coach.

If Mike Malone were the coach, you'd still be playing basketball right now.

Would you feel differently about firing Thibodeau?

Say that again.

If you knew that if they had Mike Malone instead of Tom Thibodeau, the Knicks would still be playing basketball right now.

Would you feel differently about firing him?

Would you be able to get over it more?

Yes.

I think that's not an uncle.

I don't think that I don't think you guys win this series no matter who's coaching this.

But in general, I think there's people in the Knicks' brass who believe

that that part.

See, I just, I think,

that's what they said.

The Knicks should have.

I'm just trying to picture this from the Knicks brass.

Yeah.

The Knicks should have won game one.

Like I said last part,

you lose game two.

Then you'll go back, you'll win game three.

You'll lose game four.

You'll go back home.

You win game five.

You lose game six.

The thinking is you come back home and win it in seven.

Right.

The cards didn't fall that way.

I'm not so mad because we beat Boston like that.

Boston laid an egg.

Exactly.

Boston laid an egg.

Exactly.

They laid an egg at home for two games.

It's the playoffs.

The lights are brand.

Shit happens, yo.

But to fire a coach that.

Yeah, I'm against that.

Yo, fam,

I'm going to say this, right?

And I said Boston's coach, I would have fired quicker than I would have fired Tom Thibodeau.

Mike, no.

Yes.

Mike Malone can make cat play defense.

No, hold on.

Let me finish.

Let me finish.

Let me finish.

The things that Boston

suffered were coachable things.

The shit that the Knicks suffered, some of those were player mistakes down the stretch that Tom Thibodeau had nothing to do with, bro.

Right, right.

Nothing.

Yo,

the Boston shit, fam, y'all up 20.

Y'all up 20, game one.

Your team starts jacking threes.

Okay, cool.

You lose.

Game two comes.

But that's no coaching.

No, no, no, no, no, that's absolutely on coaching.

Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

Even the fact that when they push it in the middle of their comeback, y'all don't call it.

The coach is supposed to say, hey, if y'all gonna let them score, then let them score twos.

Yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, listen, listen.

Cool.

Let's say the coach, we're going to forgive you for that one.

The very next game, y'all up up 20 and a third again guess what you do mental breakdown and you let your team start shooting nothing but threes again they go on a 23 to 2 run you don't even fucking call a timeout bro you just saw this in game one you're gonna let deja vu happen in game two that's bad coaching and bad point guy in my opinion so the shit that tom thibodeau and them just experienced that shit wasn't all about coaching some of that shit was was fatigue that's where the coaching part could come in at but a lot of that shit was bad shot selection by the team.

Jason Brunson decision making.

Brunson is a vacuum.

Some of them niggas had better matchups that he wasn't getting them the ball.

Like, yo, Cat wasn't.

But that's the other coaching part.

No, but

that's the other thing I was hearing that I didn't get to is that there are a lot of people who feel like Brunson plays that way because his dad's on the coaching staff and his dad has kind of been assigned Jalen Brunson duty and that he needs to be separated from his father.

And you can't, and that's another reason why they want to get rid of that coaching staff.

That's just what I've heard.

The coach has to go before we get rid of our $50 million player, which to me is Cat.

so i guess i do understand it from thinking one's got to give two

this move just tells you that they they felt that indiana they felt about indiana like us fans felt about yeah like y'all couldn't be they can't be no excuse for y'all to lose to the indiana pants i disagree yeah but this right no but there's some credence to that you should not

There's a large group of people that felt like you could see him getting out coached by Carlisle.

Carlisle's Carlisle is really good coach.

Carlisle was a bad five coach.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Mikkel Bridges told you halfway through the season, and he's our Iron Man.

He is our Kyle Ripken Jr., the league basketball.

I'm not talking about the Knicks.

He has a middle school.

He said, middle school.

Yeah.

He said, hey, don't you think we play in a lot of minutes?

That was your sign to incorporate some of these niggas that you may have needed later, which is a Shamit, which is a Delon Wright.

Even campaign, like, see how these people operate in different lineups.

He didn't do that.

And now in real time, you're trying to figure it out in playoffs.

So I see why they're mad.

I just didn't think it was such a fireball offense from where he took us from.

I know.

He took us from nothing, yo.

You want me to read the list of the point guards of the Knicks for the last 30 years?

We've read them.

Yeah.

We've read them.

But the problem is Thibodeau doesn't change.

He does it everywhere.

And there are people who just feel like it's not going to get better.

And you don't have a lot of cap room to maneuver.

So you're not going to get, you likely won't get one additional player.

It's going to make you so much better.

And something's got to give.

And if the players don't believe in you, you may retreat.

I'm just saying, I understand why they would do it,

especially when Mike Malone is on the table.

The only reason I kind of like the move, I'd hate this move, but I like it because it lets you know that the organization is somewhat serious about the window.

About winning.

About winning.

Right.

But that's nasty.

It better be low.

I think that's if it's not.

If it's not Mike Malone, then you drop it.

If Doc Rivers comes in, that's what I'm hoping for.

You just fucked me up with this shit.

I would love that.

This is a great day, isn't it?

I think it's horrible.

I'm good with it.

Oh, I got to get to the comment streets.

I got to get off this pot.

I got to, yo, sometimes when I'm home, I just like to read comments on your fire, Tibbs.

That's crazy to me.

This article on CBS Sports is really well written.

It said, expectations are fluid in the NBA.

Tom Thibodeau took over the New York Knicks team in 2020 that had just spent two decades wandering through the desert.

At the time, achieving a baseline degree of competence was all the Knicks could ever ask out of a coach.

On God.

Since he was hired for his first top job in 2011, he's the only person to win coach of the year without earning a top three seed.

And it says five years ago, that's how low the bar was in New York.

Getting the Knicks home court advantage in the first round series seemed borderline miraculous.

Yo, the Knicks, thank you, Mel.

This is crazy.

I don't think Mike Malone's the answer.

Mike Malone's the best coach available.

I don't know if he's a coach.

Yeah, Yeah, he's by far the best coach available.

The Knicks ended the season record-wise as the fifth-best team in the league.

That just sounds crazy.

They end their playoff run

as the third, the third best.

It's not a large

y'all off the line.

It's not a big discrepancy.

Y'all didn't fall off.

Y'all are still ascending.

Like, what the fuck?

Come on, Don.

I think we brought up Mike Malone.

Y'all know I love, I think the Joker, and I think a lot of them people over there in Denver, I think a lot of times coaches could get maximized their players.

And then I think sometimes your players are just so good that they make the coach look good.

We saw that in Golden State.

When Steve Kerr got hurt, fucking Luke Walton came in and went nuts and got a fucking LA Lakers coaching job off of the Golden State fucking

offense.

So I don't think.

We saw Phil Jackson at the next.

Like, yo, dog, so I think this.

I think that what Tom Thibodeau did, yeah, you can learn from that.

Let's have a stern conversation with him.

I also think that we are exaggerating how deep some of these NBA teams go.

A lot of coaches only play eight niggas, yo.

Most of the NBA teams.

But not a regular season.

Bro, that's not true.

I don't want us to move off from this, but my fear is that.

Mike Malone does have a little bit of that Tom Thibodeau juice on him.

I mean, he's accused of.

He just got kicked out of his locker room.

He's accused of losing his locker room.

And three days before the season was

the Knicks starters led the league by far in starters minutes played.

Second place,

you guessed it.

Denver.

So I don't know that your problems are just solved by bringing in Mike Malone.

Unless Mike Malone's open to changing that.

And I don't know if he is or he's not.

I know Tom Thibodeau consistently has not been on every team he's ever coached.

I don't even like how they did that.

Why not keep him on as some type of consultant?

He's family people.

Hold on, but that's interesting.

The read that I got from Shams and from ESPN did not say he was fired.

It said he was relieved of his duties as coach.

That language is often used when they are going to make you a consultant.

Or promote you to president.

Yeah, because they said relieved of his duties as head coach.

They were very short.

I just have a hard time believing that the Knicks as an organization would treat Tibbs like that as somebody that been in the games all year.

Like Leon Rose, World Wide West, Rick Brunson, Jalen Brunson, and Tibbs is a committee.

Like it's a squad.

But if they're saying that they had to separate Brunson, because a lot of times when a head coach gets fired, the staff gets fired.

Almost always.

A lot of times.

Well, they're not getting rid of Rick Brunson.

Says who?

Because you're not getting rid of Jalen Brunson.

Stop.

I'm not doing this.

I'm not doing it.

You got to show me that.

No, I'm not saying that.

Because you are.

I'm just saying, nigga, Rick Brunson is contracted to be a coach.

And if Mike Malone gets hired or another coach gets hired, a lot of times they bring in their own assistant staff.

They don't have to keep.

Now, if Jalen says, this is a deal-breaker for me.

What are you going to do?

Quit?

Do what every other player does.

Ask for a trade, be unhappy.

You don't want an unhappy player either.

You already know the the unhappy captain of your team who has the best contract in the NBA.

He could change his

mind.

No, he has the most player-friendly contract.

He could change his mind.

Or team-friendly, I should say.

He has the most team-friendly contract.

He has the most team-friendly contract.

What I'm saying is this, bro.

If y'all going to talk about winning and the team is committed to winning, then you can go get some motherfuckers for Jalen Brunson.

No, you can't really because it's coming.

Because of the money.

The money thing.

Yo, give me Greek food.

There's nobody such and such.

Give me such and such.

I'll take him down to Philly on behalf of Philadelphia.

We're willing to make a sacrifice.

We'll give you Paul George, in fact.

All right.

Now I'm going to stream.

I'm not doing a review because I'm going through a review.

I'm in my feelings.

That's why I'm happy.

I think that's horrible.

I'm in my feelings.

I think it's hard.

Now, I'm not mad at this.

If Tibbs, as a 70-hour-year-old, says, you know what?

I'm retired.

I'm done.

Nobody says that shit after being a stone store from the NBA Finals.

I guarantee you, Tibbs ain't want to be nowhere but right where he's at.

Yeah, word.

That is is absolutely crazy that y'all did that.

I'm going.

I don't.

What else y'all got?

You got any other breaking news, bro?

No,

I think I'll do it.

Shit, fuck you.

Broken news.

Broken news.

I love it.

All right, it's sleeper time.

It's sleeper time.

So give me.

Oh, wait, we didn't talk about division being unsigned and then signed.

They were independent and then now they're on.

So deaf.

Now they're on so-so death.

And Jermaine Dupree announced, yo, after seeing the energy and seeing them on tour and working with them, once I found out they was unsigned, I had to sign them.

That's awesome, Jermaine Dupree.

What the fans are saying is, when the fuck were they unsigned?

And why didn't they tell us?

Right.

We wish we would have known.

I had no idea either.

But congratulations to Division.

I absolutely love them.

Sometimes when I'm home searching for entertainment, i do a few things uh i go back to old history that makes me laugh

or some current shit that's going on there's a guy on instagram right now i forgot his name but he's a basketball nigga he's showing you all the loopholes in the travel rules in the nba

So he's just out there taking 29,000 steps, hopping around.

I hate the videos.

I hate him with a passion, but guess what?

He makes me laugh when I'm feeling down.

He makes me laugh when I'm feeling down.

Another thing that gives me joy when I'm feeling down is remembering that we called Division to tell him about that stupid ass song that him and Jermaine Dupree made.

He told me that that song was going to be a classic and around for the next 50 years.

If I get caught cheated,

that don't mean I don't love you.

And I know I've cheated more than Division.

And I was saying,

hey, if something's wrong, if a nigga that cheated more than you is saying, hey, dog, I don't know if this is the guy anthem that we needed to be.

So division, anytime you want to talk about that, what else brings me joy?

Oh, when Aisha Diaz talked about how she fell in love with her boyfriend when he kidnapped her and hit her passport.

Y'all remember that one?

We can move on.

I didn't even know that story.

That's wild.

Oh, yeah,

that was the best.

That was one of the.

Talking about the content.

That's one of the best stories to ever hit the internet.

Steven Victor said that Push paid seven figures to get out of the Death Defense.

That sounds more like

they owe three albums.

Oh, he owe three albums.

That's how much he stood on business.

Keeping that verse on there.

Still on business.

I respect that.

Well, my verse is worth more than seven figures.

The Kendrick verse.

Yeah.

My Kendrick verse will be worth more than seven figures if I'm allowed to put it out properly.

Yeah.

He's on the screen.

Now I got this deal this way with Rock Nation, where we probably got it split a certain way now.

They probably already hey Drake.

We out of here.

Yeah.

Did I say something wrong?

You pay that seven-figure tab quick.

Depending on how high the seven figures are.

Well, he had it.

Was able to get it.

Seven figures is a long range.

We all know that he did.

Yeah, we talking about it.

Not as big different than one.

That's what I said.

Was able to get it.

Stephen Victor got enough Ferraris to fucking pawn some of those shits off.

Hey, one thing's for sure: if Pusha didn't have it, him and Stephen Victor was going to have it.

They're going to get it.

Push it.

Steven Victor

is a fucking.

Push is our our era's version of Vince Staples.

Like, that nigga's parading around out here like an underground MC, but he ain't.

He don't act underground MC.

Yeah, you don't write the McDonald's theme, you get an underground MC.

And Arby's, right?

Yep.

And Arby's.

I am going with

Giveyon, who to me is doing...

I know we all enjoyed some of that music that Silk Sonic did.

It sounded like Giveon is doing that.

Okay.

Like, it sounds like he and his Make my shit sound like the 70s bag.

You don't like it, uh-ish?

What are you doing?

I was just sleeping, man.

You can say, I ain't gonna fuck with you.

You don't fuck with it?

What he's doing?

The sound of it?

Do you like Giveon?

He all right.

He a little.

He a little,

I don't know if I want to say whiny,

but it's like, oh, oh, yeah, like that.

That ain't my thing.

You thought you were the only one?

No.

You were the only one male that didn't like Giveon?

Yo, you could speak for yourself sometimes.

Speak up.

i just don't whisper it speak up don't let money long speak for you just hilarious speak for you

have a voice

why don't you i was

anyways no i i'm it's not i'm not the biggest fan uh i kind of like it i think he's bodying this i'm gonna play a givey on record this record is called rather

be

You can start with something new.

Boom, bone.

I'll be dodgy anymore.

Don't drink with a pain

anymore.

I like that.

I think you're killing this shit.

What he's saying?

Try to be a

in the other life of someone

just hit me, they fired the coach, goddamn.

Now I'm in this room with you.

Yo, yo, I'll play something else, nigga.

I love your shit, though.

No, but

too late now.

Now it's too late.

No, Pay Impression,

no, no, no, no, it's no, it's our sleeper.

No, not no more.

Not no more.

Niggas crack ice for the snoop shit.

I don't care.

That was the worst sleeper I ever played.

No, it wasn't.

That was the worst sleeper I ever played in the history of this show.

It wasn't.

I know that.

I know that's what I'm saying.

It's okay.

Now play Brown Sales.

But when you're playing the ball, now I'm playing Dre Saul.

Now what?

Which one?

Kenstein Mad.

New.

Brand new.

Look, now you're about to hate.

I like this song.

I like this song until they fucking.

What do y'all want me to do?

Yeah, fuck y'all niggas.

Damn, they shit on Gimmia.

God damn.

I've never seen someone get pushed off the block like that.

That was crazy.

You let them bull you.

That was crazy.

No, I just got a list of songs that I would play.

I got like 20 sleepers loaded up.

Why you trying to beef inside the function?

Got us looking crazy at the luncheon.

Here you go again with your assumptions.

You too smart to be up on that dumb shit.

All that liquor consumption.

Got you over acting on some drunk shit.

It's a whole fucking production.

I'm two seconds from combustion.

But I came front, I love it.

You kinda turn me on when you does it.

Let's turn you like a fool out in public.

You made me wanna say fuck it.

Then I do, it's a mood.

Fuck around and have a send the news.

Wanna lose, guess it's true.

I can't stay mad at you.

When you're the one that I choose

what about

things you lose.

No, not excuse.

I'd be on my bullshit.

If we put back a fool, that's just not what

we would.

I could never stay, I can't stay mad at you.

You're doing too much was a person.

Tell me how you thought you're wearing birds.

Any other nigga would be nervous.

I sit back and laugh, I'm just observing.

That tequila be working.

Though you was crazy, liquor just conversing.

I'm a long way from perfect.

But you further than the waste, bitch.

But I came for it, I love it.

You kinda turn me on when you does it.

Every time you cutting up, I love it.

You make me wanna come touch it.

Then I do,

it's a mood.

We done fucked around and now we in the nude.

When I moved, you my boo.

I can't stay bad at you.

When you're the one that I choose

one of

you,

I'm not excused.

I be on my

pushes.

It's a mood, we both like a fool.

That's just the way that we move.

I could never stay.

I can't stay mad at you.

I can't believe

I did

my

name

my best friends

You won't forget me Over these pictures, just pictures

You act like I don't know your middle

I can run I can rest and rest

I wonder if they would have fired him if he lost to the Celtics No

no

because this to me sounds like they just wanted to fire him.

Or, yo,

we, like everybody else in the world, underestimated Indiana and knew this was a shoe-win.

And I think that Indiana just outplayed the Knicks and had a deeper team than the Knicks.

I think if y'all lose to Boston, nobody says a thing.

I agree with you.

The problem is just that it don't seem like the Knicks felt that way.

If y'all lose in seven games to Boston, nobody says a fucking thing.

They congratulate him, in fact.

Yo, brand new music.

It's my man Trey Songs.

Not to be confused with Trey Button, even though I did did and kept calling Trey Songs talking to him like he was my son

brand new music that record is called Can't Stay Mad available on your phones and on DSPs right this very second man shout out to him

shout out to AG

all right excuse me damn it's cracked I'm going to, I believe she's from Tennessee.

Artist name is Samara Singh, and the record is called

I like her.

She got EP out.

She's hard.

Don't fuck with me.

Okay, shit.

Don't fuck with me.

Let's you get ready for your scrolling.

Mama always taught me, you don't start those, you solve them.

Meet, meet, gobblin'.

Finish them, they wobbling.

Okay, chill, they falling.

Damn, then get off, but I'm a profit.

Don't take shit, won't harm shit.

Can't take the plate, don't you jump in this ball kit?

Used to work out par freight, but now this my office.

Can you believe they pay me all this money?

Just a tar shit.

Lil' bitch, I'm vibin'.

Lil' bitch, we mobbin'.

All ain't got time and what god damn, I'm shinin'.

All these records, this ain't silver, hoe is right, go.

Wait, till I get them diamonds, it's gon' be a choke full.

Take a walkin', don't you like

shit?

Every time it's me, they talk out.

I'm a boy singer, better get that gone.

85 burning rubber till I get back home.

And bitter is the food that fell early.

Splitter with these snakes on me, Lord have mercy.

Can't it's chicken, no churches.

Throwing up to purger, don't forgive me for these urgents.

So who the fuck I look like if I slow up now?

Talking out that neck, but my foot calm that down.

Used to let that slide just to keep folks on round.

Now, I keep the scissors in my bag in case they get loud.

We hike that smoke down, don't get me rowdy.

These hoes can't rag with it, say that shit proudly.

Bad bad man Lowry, serving face in season, bitch.

I even rock my Lowry's.

They like my lil' voice, they think that shit sweet.

They think they gon' beat this lil' Carmo Coochie.

Well, bitch, I'm a new HE.

Forbidden gems, I'm out next next to that 318 I'm a coochie, I'm a sellout Spell that shit every time I spit a top out I'm a boy sailor, better get that gone 85 burning mub until I get that cone

And bitter is the food that fell early Splitter with these steaks on me, Lord have mercy

Hands in this chicken, no churches Throwing up to Persia, don't forgive me for these urges

And again, that record is Center by Samara Sin.

That shit is dope.

You smoke that.

I'm playing,

I don't know, or I guess Terrace Martin is from West Coast.

Terrace Martin, Kenyon Dixon.

See you later.

You and I got something special.

Beautiful and complicated.

It's our little secret baby.

You know we got some nasty hats.

She loves in a crazy way.

I ain't trying to be your mad.

Hope you hear me when I say

the same goodbye.

See you late,

you late

don't cry.

You know I'll be allowed this time.

Just a touch of your nail in mind.

I don't cry

the same.

Gotta skate, but I'll see you next time.

And I can't wait, you and me, the best times.

You just call me, oh, you said it takes time.

Never too far, we gotta get by.

Special friend, but we have this classic.

Here they go, you can call it magic.

Who cares if it's wrong, I just gotta have it.

Who cares if it's wrong, I just gotta have it.

See you late,

you lady.

Don't cry, don't cry.

You know I'll be around

this time.

Just a touch, so you'll never

be mine.

I don't cry,

this ain't no bad bad.

See you later.

That is Terrace Martin and Kenny Dixon.

See you later.

They dropped a little two-pack that is absolutely fire.

Check it out.

I'm going to

Honey Baby.

She just put an EP out.

Shout out to K-Mac.

That's the home team.

The song is called These Days featuring Wesley Franklin.

I'm going to look up this artist.

I always look at the artist.

Falling, baby, where you going?

I've been calling.

I remember back when we was all in.

These days we ain't even talking now.

Falling, baby, where you going?

I've been calling.

Fucking every night when we was laughing.

These days we ain't even talking.

I don't.

I don't wanna get into deep on.

And you took my favorite part of me too long since I had you laying at the major text

Imagine if all this shit didn't change Imagine if she wasn't at your place Imagine if I never needed space Hate to say I love just running away You're gone but I can't put that to play

where you going?

I've been calling.

Fucking every night, but we was lost.

These days, we ain't even talking.

Why are we ain't talking?

You still have my story, even when you ain't stalking.

Tryna figure out who's heals and you lost it.

We can spin a block, but we won't know what it's costing.

So fuck your sentiments, now you're listening.

Sadness, nothing on your way.

I took that option and wish I didn't, but now these bitches in your place.

Imagine if I put you on a drain.

Imagine if you never needed space.

Imagine if you never went away.

Imagine if you had someone to blame.

You got about a care, but I'm the fame.

Falling.

Baby, where you going?

I've been calling.

I remember back when we was.

These days we ain't even talking now.

Falling.

Baby, where you going?

I've been calling.

Fucking every night when we was locking.

These days we ain't even talking now.

These days we ain't even talking.

These days, these days,

these days.

As honey baby

and Wesley Franklin

these days

Mel, I still haven't gotten anything from you?

Oh, now I do.

Yeah.

Okay.

You want to go ahead?

Yeah.

I'm going to play new old music.

I wonder what the fuck happened to these guys.

Chris John.

So I'm going to play Full of Smoke.

That was my shit.

1997.

Boy, that album.

Signed to

get you.

What?

Chris John album on that West Side Highway.

Chris John.

And so the the hustlers continue to hustle.

Chris John, you're listening.

I can't stop,

I I'm no stop, cause I'm too cool too quick.

Everything they say is true.

I'm for smoke,

cause I'm too cool too quick.

Everyone they say is true.

I'm for smoke.

Watching my life go down,

down.

Watching my life go down,

down.

Watching my life go down,

down,

watching my life go down.

And all the day,

time just passes my story.

But how do I

see

faces and faces catching different places?

Surroundings is glorified.

Same situation, nothing ever changes.

Just be here, glorified

hustle,

hustle

with nothing

from day to night.

The business is as good as it gets as I take another hit, honey.

I won't stop,

I won't stop.

Cause I'm too great

to change.

What they say is true.

I'm full of snow,

Cause I'm a lot to make

what they say.

It's true.

Oh,

I'm full smoke.

One thing I like going down.

One thing of my life go down.

Cause I'm a hot.

One thing I like going down.

One thing of my hair life goes down.

Down, down,

down

I'm in

today.

Get chill because I'm too cool.

And what they say is true.

I'm full of smoke because I'm too cool.

And what they say is true.

Straight layer,

I'm full of smoke.

Watching

That's Christian full of smoke.

Little throwback, I forgot about this album.

I forgot all about this album.

Mark,

mine's from Leticy's new album came out late April.

The album's called The Crown, and the song is called Daydreaming.

Woke up this morning, feeling brand new.

Good loving on last night.

What did you do, amazing?

You got me craving

more.

Laughing so hard when shit ain't funny.

Got a movie in my head, living this money.

Gotta concentrate.

I can't be late for work.

It's so cold

when you're next to me, yeah.

You feel like rainbows and galaxies and galaxies.

It's so cold.

You're next to me.

You Mars and Venus.

You mean the world and me, mean the world and me.

What a dream, what a dream, stay dream.

My shooting start your constant demas.

Baby, double de treatment.

What a dream, what a dream.

Day dreams.

Shooting star, you're constantly amazing.

All from a constellation.

Talking to my friends about what they say.

I told them I fell, told me stuff playing.

It's crazy.

Look what you made me do.

You keep taking over.

All of my thoughts can't get nothing done.

Cause all I want is you.

I want what you do, what you did last night.

So good

when you're next to me.

You feel like rainbow on galaxy.

So good

you next to me.

I'm being mad.

world of me.

You mean the world of me?

What a dream, what a dream.

Daydream man.

My shooting star, you constantly make sense.

Oh, what a dream, what a dream, what a dream it was.

My shooting star, you constantly make sense.

Far from a constellation

for the Emery,

As Let us see with Daydreaming

What was the album called?

The Crown.

The Crown.

Out now.

Check it out.

All right.

Some people ain't got a daydream.

They could just ask.

Some people ain't got a daydream.

Ask more than once sometimes.

Ask more than one person.

The funny shit was, she got a whole clan of measles that put contacts together and joint beg.

She let her say that.

We let her say that.

She was proud.

Yo, no, it wasn't just me that begged.

Me and my friends.

We're all beggars.

We hit everybody we knew to figure out how we could get all the tickets.

She is so tone deaf or resilient.

Thank you.

Tenacious.

Because the shit worked.

And I am grateful.

And appreciate it.

I know if I need to get in this way, I'm going to call her.

And she knows the mix going to work.

How did she know is the part that you can't say?

Yep.

How did she know, Antoine?

Yep, let me look.

How do you think she had a good inclination at?

Yo, this T been fixed.

How did you know it would work?

How did you know that would work, ma'am?

History.

She played the odds.

Don't speak for her.

Don't speak for women.

History.

Thank you.

She's dangling that little bird.

Oh, my God.

Yo, I ain't gonna lie.

My girl, Mel.

I thought it was gonna kill me again.

My girl, Mel, like a mistletoe, boy.

Did anybody eat a chicken salad here?

I'm down with Matt.

You think somebody boosted your shit?

They took our food, and nigga, Joe, don't want to reorder our shit, right, man?

Reorder our shit, boy.

That ass strombot.

See, Melissa, that's the problem, man.

What's that?

You know, if you bought something, you can't put

your life into other people's hands.

Oh, shit.

Yes, you can.

I'm down with you.

I was saying he was the problem, not you, but they took it somewhere else.

But it's crazy.

Because he was interrupting you.

He stepped on your story and then he silenced you.

He tried to sell you out.

He tried to buy you, basically.

Whoa.

No, no, your dignity for, what was it, a strombola?

No, what'd you order?

A chicken salad.

The bitches that wear this little free people sundress is coming to beg.

She did not beg.

The people that put them earthy.

That's why I don't deal with them earthy holes.

You think that's what they're coming to do?

Don't, hey, earthy hoes.

Don't go have a blast at the picnic with these niggas and then come back to me for a steak sandwich.

Joe.

That's not what they're begging for.

They're not coming back to me.

They're begging for some different meats.

A whole impossible burger.

Yeah, a whole different.

Well done.

Yeah, well.

Them no deodorant wears.

Then came and shitted on the event, too.

I did not.

That shit was muddy and rainy.

I didn't get that hype next year.

I only stayed for Lily Kravitz.

I didn't get my money's worth.

No, I went for that money.

Y'all just like to remix my

story.

Yo.

Uh-oh.

I love this album.

Let's mel it the roots, big man.

Yo.

In the parking lot.

Nobody's trying to get

on the phone.

How long y'all staying outside using the phone, trying to get some...

Yeah, we out here at

entrance B.

I sold you my location.

We did not.

We already had the things.

The night before.

We had to stay in the three-hour location.

I had it the night before, right?

Yes.

Jigga.

It's called Will Call.

Hold up, love.

Anytime you see Jigga, man, I'm rolling on dubs.

Don't forget about the clean shit, chopping it up.

It's the motherfucking pop bitch.

Who hotter than us?

Mel Ford.

My name is JP Show.

But in the meantime, call me William H.

Show.

On the platinum, Yamaha.

With the engine running.

Con it up like liquor on an empty stomach.

Man, empty stomachs out there, too.

Yes, but I know.

Who the fuck?

What?

What?

Catch bleak in South Beach.

I know the reach of the police cat on my lot.

Bitch on my back.

The one time with the dynamic.

The dynasty

and me.

My ears aren't quite that is a white cheese.

Yeah, big Philadelphia.

Let's go, Mark.

Look at this try to be from Philly, too.

Got a little gut, so we got some tough work.

I'm running wild, running high, LA stop.

Bang the rocks go to the sunrise, bus I stay high, dumb high.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

From the gutter to the rich, from hoes in my clothes to the most butter shit.

High flight for the bitch.

Now I rock ice for the fuck of it.

You wife, love my shit.

Know who you fucking with?

J-Hole.

Boy, I never got no plate.

Now these bitches wanna give me more heads than Shaw Day.

Hey, you hear that, Monty?

You hear that more head than Sha Day?

Yeah, nigga, you better mute up.

Oh, all right, man.

Shout out to all the niggas.

Shout out to the niggas that was trying to get a first single when this record came out.

Shout out

to the music.

I was so mad.

I missed a hoodie.

Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there.

Until the next time, we bid you a new farewell.

Adios, Cereba Dirty, Asta, La Vista, Arvois.

So long above, a simple head knot will suffice.

Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.

So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Lastly, the bandies don't have tickets.

The stagnant women are putting a bunch of names in the hat to call begging

the closed-minded women only stay for Linny Grabbers grab you a time and all these bitches are shady out of here

anybody doing anything fun this week

show Friday

all right we got ice for the uh Wayne show huh Wayne at the garden that should be damn I'm excited

new albums anybody else anybody else doing something fun this week look at at Mark gonna get some sleep.

It's my wife's birthday.

Margaret, go second.

I'm gonna do whatever she's gonna do.

No sleep for you.

Yeah, you already.

Sorry, buddy.

No sleep.

That's crazy.

Well, you don't have the plans made already?

Of course I do.

So you just can't share them?

You just can't share them.

Can't share them.

Got a roadmap.

What the hell?

That's what I get trying to produce.

Didn't Janet Jackson make no sleep?

There it is, right there.

Bitch.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Meta World put a request in for him to be head coach of the Knicks.

It works for me.

Yo, if I could fuck him up, I would tell y'all something right now, but I can't.

Run on Tesla.

Yeah, run on Tesla.

He put his request in somebody.

He says, nah, nah, this is supposed to happen.

I never ran from the city when all the top players left New York because it was hard.

I went to St.

John's beatball.

Shout out to Metal World Peace.

Formerly known as Ron Artess.

That's our guy.

All right, I ain't got nothing planned.

I ain't got nothing planned.

Father's Day coming up.

Yes, sir.

Look at the excitement in the room for Father's Day.

Yeah, they don't fuck with us, man.

I'm mad too.

Well, what male says?

No, we tightened.

What about the food?

Yeah, you women refund.

Buy your food.

Buy a meal.

We order our shit, boy.

Never the case.

Oh, that's what I'm doing.

You should get a refund.

I don't refund you.

Yo, press the button reorder right now.

He didn't pay for it to begin with.

Word.

What refund do you need?

It's the principal.

Man, that shit look good you ordered.

It's the principality.

Chicken apple salad.

Is somebody's principal to give out a refund?

No, it's the principle.

He should get his refund.

He didn't pay for it.

He didn't ordered you anything.

No, he didn't order it.

On the list.

He did order it.

He did.

Took a picture.

It was outside in the front.

But what you're saying.

Also saying, Mel, you're pro-refund, though, is what you're saying.

Like,

for sure, that doesn't actually make it.

Somebody that was hungrier than y'all made off of it.

Somebody that needed it more than y'all, because you just ate Saturday and Sunday.

Begging for food.

Watch your fucking mouth, bro.

Because you ain't gonna order nothing on y'all.

Who went to go get the food, Mel?

I stood in line at the food truck one day.

I did.

Yo, stop looking at me, my nigga, please.

Fried shrimp and fries.

Get back, clap fine.

You know, stay low, keep fine.

All the reason

that it'll go black.

You stood at the food truck for only your food or your party's food, your party of 10?

Just me and two of the

back.

Yo, you guys have been so awesome out there.

I swear to God, man.

What an audience.

What a crowd.

Marcus fucked up over there.

Oh, yeah, my back is jacked up.

Stop trying to.

Unpause.

Kung Fu Joe, nigga.

Everybody puts Kung Fu Fight.

He trained like he got a match squared

or something.

Nah, man, just trying to get healthy, man.

You and Jake Paul.

Would you take it?

Fuck no.

Mark Lamoni.

Definitely take it.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry.

I just was like confident I would win.

You sat there with Pierce Brosner.

Ain't the nigga 40 pounds of fear me?

50 pounds of your meat?

That bag looked right.

Oh, I'm not saying I wouldn't take the money.

I was gonna take the fight, like, can I win it?

That's what I thought you would.

Oh, no, we just mean, would you take it?

Would you take the fight?

Yeah, everybody in this room would.

Listen, I tried to fight around.

You want $20 or $50,000, so I'm with you.

I will take it.

But I love when people speak for everybody in the room, so I don't want to step on that.

No, put your rich away, bro.

It's not a rich.

I'm just not taking it.

I know.

Not because of that.

Yes, it is.

Is there a bag?

Is it a fear ticket?

I'm sure.

It's because of it.

I'm sure.

I'm positive.

It's just that the pittance that I was willing to scrap for.

Shit, fucker.

Me too.

Right.

Please.

What the fuck are you talking about, nigga?

Get in the jam.

One of them stupid remind you of shit that happened Instagram pages I follow reminded me of how Todd Bridges beat the absolute breaks off of vanilla ice in the box

And they showed the foot yo Todd Bridges was that nigga was like George Foreman in this shit

He boxed vanilla ice all over the rap

I forgot about this dog He had a rough life.

Yeah, that was pain

Who's that that beat Sticky up to?

Some white boy

flea right yeah no it wasn't flea It was some other white boy.

The nigga that looked like it.

Nigga didn't look like he had fleas.

Because the game had a lot about it.

Either way, the blacks didn't have sticky losing.

At all.

We were very surprised watching him TV that day.

That part of the shit.

I ain't seen Sticky since.

Sticky, come up here, nigga.

They ain't talking to us.

Singles like the Knicks.

Yo, they laugh, nigga.

They want to make Brownie a rotation.

Simon Woodstock was his name.

See?

Yeah, that was his name.

What's his name?

Simon Woodstock.

I'm looking at you.

Yeah.

I thought I knew all the Woodstocks.

You said they want to make Bronnie a rotational player?

Yeah, go ahead.

Keep laughing.

But

I'm not against that.

For real?

No.

Oh.

Thought I had you.

No.

Gotcha.

All right, man.

Who's ready for a Patreon?

I know I am.

I am, too.

Get low.

Stay reserved.

I remember the good old days of podcasts when you would do a pod and go home.

I don't know those days.

Me either.

You say like that's not a thing you can control.

You say that like that's the thing that's out of your hands.

It is.

That's 100% out of my hands.

That's a weird.

We are long past those.

Like

four years long.

Huh?

Like four years long.

JBP.

JBP.

DDD.

Hey, hit the button, nigga.

JDP.

Hit the button.

DDD.

Hey, hey, hey.

This is the remix.

This is the remix.

Yo, they want to go home so bad.

Look at these.

Mark's back.

He needs a hospital.

I'm great.

He needs a hospital and a red bull.

He took a red bull because his back was fucked up.

I took that THC soda.

Damn.

Oh, you know how it works.

I feel great.

I know.

You know how it works.

I know how it works.

I'm asking.

You know how it works.

How long ago you took it?

It's settling in now.

It's been an

hour and a half.

That That lolly shit ain't no joke, man.

Who crashed first on the Patreon, Mark or Mel?

You know, they take mind and mood-altering substances, and it'd be a race to who could pass out.

It's going to be a story.

It's going to be Mark.

Because that lolly goes quick.

And Mark be off camera, so he tried to get it off.

Mel at least try to hold on for a second.

All right, dedicated audience out there and hate listeners.

Hopefully you've enjoyed this.

We're out of here.

Even if you didn't, we'll be back next week.

Still going to be back next week.

Hey, still get paid.

I love what y'all killing.

Oh, I got hated that episode.

Guess what didn't hate it?

Pockass.

Thank you.

Who the fuck told y'all y'all get to hate something, nigga?

Anyway.

Stay it in the beginning.

Mike.

They hate something.

We had the bank, nigga.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Mark, you bought a house?

I'm on Zillow now.

Fuck you talking about?

You hate something.

Yo, nigga.

Mel about to re-up.

What's up with your building?

It's still standing.

Why?

It looks so far.

That's it.

I don't have a follow-up question.

She's hungry, bro.

She don't want to talk right now.

Baddies don't get hungry.

Shit.

They always hungry.

Go ahead and get something to eat, girl.

Go ahead and get a little something to eat.

We still

recording this.

Antoine.

I know.

Nigga checking out sleepers.

Turn it off.

Nigga trying to find something.

She looking through all the food.

It's not there, bro.

Mel, can you stop acting homeless?

All right, I got it.

Jamie.

No worries, bro.

This nigga's stupid.

She's in the bags, hungry as hell.