Episode 825 | "K"
The latest JBP episode begins with a recap of Mother’s Day 2025 (19:00) as well as the room’s review of Kendrick Lamar & SZA’s show at Metlife Stadium last Friday night (26:38). Melyssa shares her experience at the Broadway revival of Shakespeare's "Othello" featuring Denzel Washington and Jake Gyllenhaal (52:38), P. Diddy’s trial is underway (1:03:10), and the latest from Tory Lanez after he was rushed to a hospital following a stabbing (1:23:34). Also, the NBA’s Draft Lottery (1:44:37) and Michael Jordan is set to join NBA on NBC (1:52:40), triggering text messages and communication expectations (1:56:49), Jayden Daniels mother appears on ‘The Pivot’ to address her public backlash (2:19:35), Joe says he’s standing with Teyana Taylor (2:44:55), and much more!
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That's the side of it, like you said.
Go ahead.
Wait, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
What happened?
Truck the mic, please.
Shoot.
No, I'm just saying that's the side they don't see.
Yeah.
That's the side that they don't see.
Because people who like that's part of Bell's manipulation.
My manipulation.
She tells me to shoot and get right on that axe.
Oh my God.
I can't believe he said that.
The workplace.
You landed on me.
The workplace.
My God, you know,
for a room full of dudes who really fucking hate when girls bring up the past, y'all sure remember the motherfucking past.
Trying to reverse card.
I see.
Oh, she laughed.
Oh,
no white nigga got lit.
Oh.
You're jumping the gun.
Mel isn't that bad.
You're jumping the gun.
That ain't my
beef next segment.
Yeah, I'm not in that segment.
I am in that segment.
That's a flip segment.
I'm not in that segment.
I feel like Mel should be able to do whatever she wants outside of the world.
Why do you say that when the camera come on and remove yourself from the situation?
Without being around by Cohes.
Why do you say that?
You think just like me.
We think alike.
Yeah, but you can't say that.
We saw Tommy Hilfiger's son in that picture, boy.
Y'all.
Whatever that nigga name is.
He's about to say, was that Tommy Hilfiger's son?
No, does he look like Tommy Hilfiger?
I don't care.
I just lied.
But he put like this.
You lied.
I said, yo, I'm going to record you.
And then you tried to move past him.
We'll talk about it later.
We'll talk about it later, man.
Yo, where do you see this stuff?
They sent it to me.
They sent it to me as well.
My man Simon sent it to you.
I don't know who that is.
Oh,
what's up, Ish?
I'm happy to see you.
Good day, sir.
Good to see you.
You real, yo, yo, whatever is kicking in, when a nigga turned 50, it hits you.
Wow, and I thought about you this week and like, yo, he really losing weight.
That shit be funny on me, son.
Yeah, because he stopped eating sugar.
I hit somebody somebody up, like, yo, I need that.
Because you look good.
Look how you drilling me.
You look good.
And when I compliment you, I think it's old shit.
Yo, you still sticking to the I Stopped Eating Sugar line?
That's all I'm asking.
Like, is that you confident?
And that's the one we riding with still for real, honestly.
Literally stopping.
That's what you're telling to people that love you and care about you that you've known forever.
Yo, I stopped eating sugar and look.
That's what you're telling us?
I thought about the Ozebic thing.
That was the best meeting for real.
But then I watched him eat the whole whole salad bowl, whatever.
I watched him eat it.
You think that's how sugar works?
You tell us how sugar works.
Nutritionist?
You don't stop and then just lose 40 pounds.
I didn't lose 40 pounds.
How much lost?
11.
That was a hefty lover.
You would know.
Young nigga.
Yo, Mark.
Go in the bathroom.
Mark, Mark, just be him.
Blow your nose.
We need the on-air sign.
Like a big one.
Yeah, we are.
Silence.
We're on air.
We're on air.
Corey be doing laundry.
Washing dishes.
Washing dishes.
Opening boxes.
Microwave.
Mark got a middle.
You can do that when the numbers are coming in, huh?
You can just do whatever you want.
Yeah, show off.
Anything else?
What is that?
You want to go to the store too?
You want to get us some drinks?
Nah, I ain't going to lie.
I slept on them educated niggas, man.
Yeah, they deep.
I ain't going to.
Hey, they ain't leave.
They sticking around.
All right.
They deep.
You're dead.
You're.
How you say?
You to the educators.
Hey, guys.
Hello.
Good day.
Hello.
Oh, Frieza, what up?
What's up, man?
How y'all feeling?
Feel good, yo.
I feel good.
Good, good.
Happy to see y'all.
Yeah, happy to be here.
This weekend felt extra, just, it didn't feel like a short weekend like they normally do.
There's a lot of shit going on this weekend.
A lot of shit.
In a good way.
Yeah.
Chicken over there, man.
Guys,
have you ever gotten in your car and the gas light is on?
And you're like, I'm just going to keep trying to push it.
Oh, 100 pounds.
I'll get it there.
And then, has it ever stalled out in you?
I feel like that is the New York Knicks.
I really do.
I feel like they have pushed the margin on your gas tank, and I feel like it's starting to fade out.
And what I say that, he's right.
I mean, you talk about Jalen Brown, 19 points on 18 shots.
Jason Tatum.
It's my man Jay Will, right here.
I saw him at the game.
They're just starting to buy.
Shut the fuck up, Jay Will.
It's over, nigga.
I'm not taking him seriously.
My, my, my, my, my, my, my,
for sure.
I'm not taking them seriously.
I'm still not taking
either.
I still think the Celtics win this series.
If I had to put money, that's where I'd bet it.
I'd take the odds and bet the Celtics.
For sure.
And the Knicks still blow.
Don't let someone now, don't let the Celtics off the hook by saying, oh, well, the Knicks are...
No, they're trash.
You felt they were trash
five days ago.
You thought they were trash five weeks ago.
You thought they were trash five months ago, five years ago, because you know why?
They're trash,
they're garbage.
Damn, Jesus.
Who is that?
That's a lot.
Yeah, you're talking kind of crazy.
One, two,
oh, fucking Knicks fans.
Bing bong, Jerry O'Connell.
Hey, fucking King.
Jerry O'Connell.
Sting.
Bad bunny.
All you Knicks fans who paid a million dollars for figures.
It's 2-1 Knicks, but the series is over.
You didn't think like you guys played good in game one and two, did you?
Like, we're missing NP Gym 3s.
You guys stink.
You stink.
You fucking stink.
Mike check, mic, check, one, two, one, two, one, two.
Mike, check, mic, check, one, two, one, two, one, two.
Boston, what's good?
Whistler, what's good?
Springfield, what's good?
What's poppin' up?
Yes, sir.
Welcome to Real Digger Records.
Hey, he's still gone.
And Patrick, you get cute players.
Zero rings amongst them.
You guys are just like a second rate franchise, Spikely.
Everyone, Timothy Shambalambe.
All of you guys jumping around
in the new it.
I give you credit.
Celebrate when you can.
We missed a million things at the two worst shooting games of the season.
But that wouldn't last for the World Championship.
New York City, what up, though?
World Championship for Red Subway Series this weekend.
You knew that wouldn't last.
I'm not good at the best.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Queens, what up, though?
There's a lot of good teams.
OKC.
Harlem, what up, though?
I'd even say like Indiana and Cleveland.
Very good.
Boogie damn, stand down.
Harlem, what up though?
You stay, you look good.
You fucking
throw the trees, that won't last.
That's a lot.
That's what the offense.
This is May 14th.
Yeah, you're up two nothing.
But now, doesn't it feel like you're down 3-0?
Like you have no soul, no ocean, no life.
Go around and bing bong and this and crazy.
But you knew it, and I knew it.
You never had a chance.
Bing bong, everybody.
Mike check, mic check, mic check.
Rest in peace to VIG.
Rest in peace to Tupac.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One, two,
nine, stop, nah.
Every hood, what up, though?
Regardless if it's handed to me, or I've gotta grab it.
Real niggas all over the world.
Manifiers, entrepreneurs.
All my teachers, all my blogs, the workers.
All my trainers out there.
All my entertainers out there.
Talk to them now.
And bitch, Willie Foggy.
Tell me what the fuck is going on right now.
patrolies out there.
Got a big screen, changing the channel.
Looks like I'm playing the kids.
Shout out to my loved ones and they loved one, girl.
Shout out to all the mothers out there.
Path run when you're starting to breathe.
The believer's family shelves in their mouth like a car in the edge.
I'm a young pen part of my age.
I don't got long hair, but if I did, she be part of my braid.
We just find out what club they at.
Take it with us.
We run the train on them on the subway map.
The advanced is a great actor.
See these record labels, got picks on us.
Get fucked like the gay rapper.
Next to Wallace, that should call.
Rest in peace, baby.
Rest in peace, baby.
Push that mind into the floor by now.
You probably heard of me.
Fresh out of surgery.
Flashy as the fuck, you gon' have to murder me.
Murder me.
Leave me with your night.
It's great.
White T burtin' me.
You matched now.
Back down.
Niggas gon' hate you, but love you when you disappear.
Next one in the boat, we smoking fishing gear.
Happy when I tote, see you know some different years.
Bezzy in a rope, remotes and lifting chairs.
I send cards to your crib, like I'm a cab stash.
And you're throwing off with the scuper guys, looking for a goofy chest.
You ain't getting nothing but your fresh fries, super size.
Listen, dance.
We got a great show lined up for y'all today.
Best crew in the world.
Still in the brackets, nigga.
Still in the project.
Swing for nowhere at all.
You will be in the moment.
So what happened with the next one, Piglet?
It's what type of time I'm on today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We keep this applause going for the best crew in the world.
Let me get these drops out the way so they know who they listening to.
So happy everybody could be here with us today.
You could have been anywhere in the world,
but you're here with us, and we certainly appreciate that.
All praise to the Most High
for putting breath in our lungs.
So merciful.
Come on, keep this applause going.
Excuse me,
excuse me, sir.
I'm sorry I have to wake you.
You're a doctor.
Flip and Mel, Mel, Mel.
What episode is this?
825.
825?
That's right.
Welcome to episode 825 of the JBP.
Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, prize picks, Dave Portnoy.
Shut the fuck up.
Jay Williams, that's my man too.
That's my man.
Shut the fuck up.
Got a list of people that need to shut the fuck up today.
And guess who ain't on that list?
You guessed it.
Me.
I know they hate that.
I know they hate when I come in here, my dad.
I know they want to see him humiliated, humble.
Calm even.
Wrong.
Held accountable.
That sounds shit right.
Oh, somebody's got to hold Joe accountable.
Suck my dick, nigga.
How about that?
Next and fucking five.
Like the fuck I said.
The fuck is wrong with you niggas out there?
You said it.
I mean, it don't count now.
Man, listen.
It still counts.
Man, listen.
Tatum hurt, man.
Okay.
Well, before we go any further, our prayers to Jason Tatum.
For sure.
No way.
We absolutely love Jason Tatum.
We hate seeing that every time it happens.
Yep.
You know, my heart goes out to him and his entire family.
Regardless of what type of sports fan you are, some of these guys are really just really good guys.
And Jason Tatum is one of those people.
You don't want to see that shit.
Yeah, no.
Nah.
Nah.
I hope it's not as bad as they're saying it is.
Because people were saying.
It looked like what we think it looked like.
It looks exactly like an Achilles injury, unfortunately.
But people were saying because his pain tolerance is high, some people are confused into thinking it wasn't as bad as it was because he wasn't screaming and flipping and doing all the stuff that some people do.
But some people just have a high pain tolerance.
Yes, he was.
Yeah, he fucked he was.
What I saw, what I saw, what I saw.
The small TV must be.
I don't know what TV they was watching on, but when that camera panned back and he was banging on the hardwood.
Yeah, and even back, even back in the locker room, I thought it looked like he was looked like an Achilles reaction, but people on TV were saying it wasn't.
He was reacting like it could have just been a small tear or a sprain and not a full tear.
Yo, aren't you a Sixer fan?
Yes, we had a great night.
Mark Lamar here.
We had a great night last night.
Shut the fuck up.
Gotta add them to the list.
We got the lottery, though, niggas.
I'm sorry.
We're not talking about the lottery right now.
We're talking about being up 3-1 against the defending champs when everybody counted us out.
That's all we talk about right this second.
We was up 2-0.
Charles Barkley and them niggas said game three is a must-win for the Knicks.
When have you ever heard such insanity?
It makes sense.
You got to be up 3-zip against the defending champs or you're gonna lose y'all was gargling celtic dick
let's just call a spade a spade
i told you them is old hobbled washed up poor zing is pooked right put him on the falloff list i don't know what the happened to him yeah he looked like
he looked horrible
Drew Holly, that's my man, so I ain't gonna say too much about him.
That's my man.
That's my man.
And when I was talking shit at the game,
because I was behind the Celtics bench for game
three,
when I was talking shit, he heard me and turned around.
He like that?
When you go to these games and be right behind the opposing team's bench and start talking shit, the black people that's involved with that team is going to talk back to you and say something.
I'm talking about assistant coaches, staff.
If it's a black ball, boy, them niggas going to look around.
So I was talking my shit.
Drew Holiday turned around, looked at me like I was an athlete.
He turned around and looked at me like I was fucking Glenn Robinson or somebody.
He was like, all right, watch now.
Now watch, nigga.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro.
I'm joking.
He turned around with the passion and competitiveness in his eyes.
I was like, yo, I'm just kidding, dog.
I don't know what you are.
Just chill.
And anyway, that was short-lived because it was a blowout.
But yeah, enough now.
Enough.
And we ain't even starting with this.
I just felt compelled.
I just felt compelled to come in here and speak this way, being up 3-1 Eastern Conference finals.
Looks like it's
in our near future.
Semi the asterisk.
Huh?
Semifinals.
No, you said the finals.
Are you a Laker fan, Antoine?
Shut the fuck up.
E
C
S Antoine.
Not semi nothing.
Ain't no semi no more.
The Celtics are going home off the semi.
You know what I mean?
Hey, and y'all not alone.
Sometimes you tried to get it done as a nigga off the semi and it don't work.
Hey, hey, sometimes you ain't as hard as you thought.
Hold on, nigga, I'm cooking now.
I'm gunshot.
I'm gunshot now.
Man, come on, man.
Help me out.
Fuck it at the country.
Look, get out of here, bro.
Talk to them niggas.
Seven for you.
Come on, we're going to start this show.
I don't want to take over.
I don't want to be that self-centered.
But right after that,
our prize picks at, we back.
We back.
How's everybody doing?
How y'all feeling, man?
Please, please, please.
Feeling good.
Feeling good, man, man.
Feeling good.
Amazing.
Had a fun weekend.
Yeah.
Exhausted from the fun weekend, but it was a fun weekend.
Happy Mother's Day.
Wow.
Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.
Let's start.
Let's start there.
How is everyone's Mother's Day?
Mine's pretty cool.
I saw some pictures.
Your mom was great.
She looked happy.
Yeah, fantastic.
Yeah,
and now the Instagram post of appreciation for your mom is a thing in my house now.
So I had to hit him at 8:30 with the
Halloween.
Love my mom.
Is that a thing?
I didn't do it.
It is kind of a thing.
It is kind of a thing now.
If your mom's on Instagram, I I guess you got to do it.
My mom's blind.
It'd be more for my wife.
I can't.
I tell my mom she's on stream all the time.
I'll be like, yo, my mom is blind.
I post you every week.
My wife won't buy that.
So next year I'll start doing it.
I'll start doing it.
Yeah, I ain't always a thing like that.
Is that why they call you Dark Lamont Hill?
I don't know.
It's some sickness.
That might be the reason.
That was some dark humor.
Funny.
That was funny.
Oh, wait, huh.
They're calling him Dark Lamont because this is his burner.
He comes over here and gets off all of his evil, fucking treacherous.
But
here's what, and I try to leave you alone, but here's what stand out to me.
That, you know, when we say dark humor, you know, oh, you guys are horrible, but it's funny when he does dark humor, huh?
You just put it's funny behind him.
When I did dark humor, can you ever get our face?
Well, no,
that's not dark humor.
And defense.
That's
it.
That's dark.
Get him phones.
In defense, my dark humor was against my own mom.
You can't do it your dark humor was against her.
Oh, damn.
Fuck.
Like, if my mom got mad, she never write.
Some more.
Say no more.
Shout out to mom.
Shout out to everybody.
And your dark humor is misleading because there's never none of that over-the-duck curry duck.
Why you keep talking about this curry duck shit, nigga?
You're invited.
You weirdo?
No, no, I don't want to be invited.
No, you're invited.
You just don't come in the middle of the night.
I got to point out how phony you are to your sister.
I'm phony to everybody, nigga, but I get it from you, nigga.
You the
You lead in phoniness up here.
No, it's not you.
You're the phoniness leader.
Up here.
What?
Please.
Please.
Don't try to fire me now.
Fuck out of here.
Fuck out of here, nigga.
I'm not trying to fire me.
What was we on?
Mother's Day?
Mother's Day.
Mother's Day.
What did y'all do?
I had a gathering at the house.
Okay.
We brought our moms together because that's
normally a pain.
So I brought my mom up from Philly.
She came.
I had a little catered event at the house.
Nice.
And I had my wife invited us some of her friends who were mothers there.
And it turned out to be about 20, 25 people, just a nice little thing.
I ain't gonna hold you.
Every time you and your wife hold something at the house, it feels like her friends dominate.
Like you said, your mom came up from Philly and all her friends.
It was 25 of them.
It was like, where are you got friends?
All right here, Joe.
And we ain't gonna invite to nothing.
Fox.
Fax words.
Well, that's worth it.
We ain't gonna invite.
We ain't gonna get moms, too.
father's date.
I was thinking about doing like a barbecue or something for the brothers, and I was going to invite everybody up here.
Well, that's a good idea.
Can I come?
Come on.
Come on, let Mel come.
The wives will be there.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I make friends easy.
That's what you're curious about.
Mom.
Hey, listen, I got somebody I can fucking dust off and bring
up.
The wives being there is just Mel up in the difficulty level of the game.
Right.
That's temple run three.
Let's take this off rookie.
And listen, because you're going to have to sit in the corner, sit by yourself.
See the niggas, niggas, moms, and wives will be walking around.
No, I will not.
Buy the barbecue pit.
Be walking around making friends.
Okay, I'll be watching.
And I'll record.
I know you will.
With my phone.
I know you will.
That's good, Mark.
I was out at the, I'm coming to that if you do it.
I'll guarantee you I'm going to do it if y'all.
I was out eating.
We went to brunch.
So while I was out eating,
everybody was in such a great mood.
We're seeing all these parents and people out, black people out, eating and shit.
I was like, oh, man, I'm feeling so good, man.
Hey, man, Trey, send me your mom phone number, man.
Come on.
Go ahead, man.
It's Mother's Day.
She's your mom.
Go ahead, send me.
Say it over.
And I sent my first baby mom a happy Mother's Day text.
Oh, damn.
All right.
Same.
Happy Mother's Day.
Happy Mother's Day, girl.
And she said, oh, thank you so much.
Who might this be?
Look at you being fast.
Look at you ready, ready to go.
I said, hey, that's good.
He's going to ditch you again, nigga.
Look at your dad.
I heard what you said in the park.
But men think that about anything.
But anyway, I'm like, your favorite baby daddy.
I'm just like, oh, thank you so much, Joe.
And it just warmed my heart.
Oh, so my controversial, you know, that's dope.
My controversial question for y'all was.
That was nice.
Did y'all?
Did y'all hit the round?
Absolutely.
Really?
Absolutely.
Hitting the round of room.
Every time.
Every Mother's Day, she get a gift.
She gets a
happy Mother's Day text.
Look at that.
Come on, man.
The giving for me is for my daughter, but here.
Oh, you just.
Oh, you did that trick for my
from his daughter.
What type of gift was it?
Well, she does.
I get a different charm
to commemorate something for her Pandora show.
Oh, from Pandora.
That's like over $100.
No, it's not.
$40?
They're not over $100.
Okay, I'm just saying, I just think.
Your daughter ain't buying that.
You bought that.
I think you should just be mindful.
I am mindful.
From your daughter, just get a little card and stuff.
Happy Mother's Day.
That's what she gets all about.
My respect.
I'm on your ass.
There's nothing to be on my ass about, man.
Yeah.
Nothing.
But yeah, I sent her a text.
That was nice.
Something for my daughter.
A card or whatever.
That's nice.
Nice.
Well, happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
We certainly hope that y'all enjoyed the day.
Hope y'all were showered with love and fucking flowers and all that good shit.
And remember, Father's Day is next month.
So just
like that shit.
For Mother's Day,
for my lady, I just told her, yo, don't even get out the bed.
Like,
we went out.
We went out.
Saturday.
Don't even get out of the bed.
Freeze.
Let's go freeze.
They got everything.
Freeze.
We can take that two ways, but that's fire.
No, no, no, no.
You know, we all took it the other way.
I know, I know.
I'm going to say, that's not a good thing.
It's like Father's Day.
She didn't like that Father's Day.
Nah, it was more than just on somebody.
You got to like get out that bad.
He ain't one allegation.
That was one.
And it happens, and that's what we was on.
I left the keys to the handcuffs right there.
I was going to stop that shit.
Hey, yo, it's right there by the dresser.
If you you can reach yourself out, if you want to.
If you can reach it, you can get out.
You gotta unlock yourself this time.
I'm gonna play back.
Certain people don't like their families play with them.
I'm gonna play back, though.
I don't give a fuck.
I will play back.
Nigga, I play.
I'm just letting you know.
I'm gonna play back.
And I want you to.
You will take it further.
No,
I let her rock when she was here.
He went crazy on me.
I watched it back.
He was going crazy.
That nigga was like, who?
Jordan, nigga.
And all this shit hit me.
I'm like, oh, shit, freeze.
God damn.
I'm on your ass.
I told you.
Well,
we all had a family.
Well, not in the family, because everybody didn't go, but shit.
Mark, Freeze, Parks, and myself
did go to the Kendrick and Scissors Show.
And E, PC, people.
All went to the Kendrick and Scissors Show at MetLife on Friday night.
It looked like fun.
It's been all the fuss on the internet.
So now we get to hear first-hand accounts from people.
What did everybody think?
Let me get a recap.
I mean, you know, I even got the little tour shirt on.
Oh, me too.
Me too.
I didn't make it to the merch booth.
I had to.
My wife took my jacket.
It was cool as a bitch in there.
It's my first time going to a merch booth.
That's my first stop every time I go somewhere.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I missed the first song because I was at the first booth.
I was texting you right before, and then I was like, uh-oh, it's a tight.
No, I'm online.
I'm like,
I heard the crowd.
I told him, I showed you.
I'm like, yo, you want to, we only got like seven people ahead of us.
You want to just run back in?
Like, fuck it.
Let's just buy up our merch now.
So we cop our shit then and went in.
Well, when I got there, also, I got there a little late.
Somehow, I managed to get there much later than I planned.
I was on the crew chat, like, y'all telling me songs and shit.
But I thought the show,
I had two thoughts.
One, the show was amazing.
I thought it was an amazing show.
And also, I'm old as shit.
Oh, yeah.
I'm still tired from that show.
Like, it was a long ass show.
Bro, they did a three-hour set.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
A three-hour set is crazy.
But
my initial thought was this was art.
Like, it wasn't just a concert.
Like, you needed the visuals they had with it, the way everything went together.
Like, they smoke outfit changes, says a flying up with the fucking wings on, with the backdrops.
They put a full production together.
I love this shit.
This kind of tied into my thought.
I was like, these two are like,
they seem like the kids that were in like the art class and like the theater class and were like kind of nerdy.
And now they're on like the biggest stage in the world doing like superstar shit.
Like Scissa being up there dancing like Madonna and hanging from the shit like some fucking pop star shit.
I was like, look at Sizza, man.
Look at Sizza.
I wouldn't have pictured that.
I mean, I would because she's amazing and talented and beautiful and all that shit, but like, she doesn't seem like the type to do that.
She seems like she wants to be in her little art nerd world.
And yeah, I also like the pre-recorded.
I usually don't like like the pre-recorded skits, they're often corny to me, but these were actually really good.
He was like kind of in the uh, what was the deposition, deposition, that sort of thing?
Yeah, he's in a deposition, and at the end, by the time they end up at the gas station, I thought that whole thing was dope, it was well done, it was well acted, it was beautiful, it was just well shot.
I love the color schemes, everything it was just it was just beautiful.
The only thing I didn't like,
I thought the ending was anticlimactic.
Like, I thought they should have ended with Luther
over Gloria.
Yeah,
it's about to say it just felt like, all right, the show is over, and it just it felt like they were stretching a little bit.
The show was over after Not Like Us for a lot of people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was
the highlight.
People started walking out.
Like, I had the set list, so I knew the two records was left and I knew the order, but I'm just looking like,
I think some, I think they wanted to send you out on like a not so tarned up.
That's so they lowered, lowered the energy a little bit.
Right.
Um, my only complaint
was
Mad City.
I was just, you know, we on the same page.
Bro, you can't do that to Mad City.
That flip was fired, but I was expecting like after the first verse, you wanted yourself.
You cannot do that, yachts.
It was like an R B version of Matt T.
Yeah, they butchered that.
That flip was not fire.
I like the flip.
No, not that.
He got like.
I like that shit.
He had that.
That flip was absolutely fire, and it should be for sale.
I'm not mad at selling it.
I'm talking about for the live show version, that is one of those super, super high-energy records that
rings off anytime he performs it.
I get what they were trying to do, though.
They were trying to let all right be the energy.
So I get it, but I was like, God, fucking
lose my shit.
I'd rather not do the record.
No.
Like Madden City.
No, I'm just saying, Mad City is one of those songs that anytime he performs it.
It's like smells like cheese pitter for me.
It'll break the venue.
Like, you can't
strip it down and make it all the way.
But that was one of my issues with this show.
And I'll get to all of my issues later.
But
the contrast in energies during the back and forth set.
So
I would think that somebody had that on their mind and knew what that record did energy-wise.
And you got to temper some of that shit if you're going back and forth between Scissor set, which was
not as energetic as Kendrick.
And then Kendrick.
I wish one of them would have went out first.
And then one of them would have went out second.
Yeah.
And they could determine that based on who's hot in what city.
I get the whole co-headline, TDE, We're Family, Art Class, all that shit.
Y'all said theater class.
That was fucking me up in there.
Me too.
That was fucking me up in there.
I'm not going to.
Some hollow shit.
Dog, in my section where I was at, Parks was like two rows in front of us.
But where we was at, me and Ian and Corey and E,
the three white girls in the back, Of us, when Scissor came on, they was jumping up word for word every one of those songs.
And when Kendrick came up, they would sit down.
That's not their bad.
And then I would stand up.
And we did that back and forth.
I think that was intentional.
Agreed.
I hate it.
And I hate that.
To your energy point.
I absolutely hate that.
That was my beef about the GNX album.
It's the same thing.
High energy, low.
Every song went like this.
Like, I think there's a...
They intentionally are shaping the project, the album, the tour, so that it is up and down.
It's a roller coaster.
Because, like I said, you finish not like us, and then you come back with Lutheran Gloria.
I'm not there for the roller coaster.
I'm not there for that.
That's how you stream.
And I'm a huge Scissor fan as well.
But if I come out to see one of you motherfuckers, that's the energy that I'm, I don't want to have to sit down, gather myself, go get a drink, go to the bathroom.
Like, oh my lord, they was killing me.
That's where I fucked up.
I wish I would have sat down.
I stood for three hours, dog.
Me too.
I was handicapped by the time that shit was over.
I stood.
I was sitting right on a wet seat, asshole, squishy.
That's what I did.
I didn't give a fuck.
I sat down.
Squishy ass nigga.
I stood.
I was in the fucking
VIP.
You could say you was in VIP.
What?
That's the riser.
Was that VIP?
He was a celebrity VIP, yes.
But yeah, I told you I said you would hate it here.
Yeah.
You would hate it.
I was thinking about going over there because Wave, shout out to Wave.
And then Mark was in there acting poor.
I'm sorry, Bark.
And then Mark was in there acting poor.
Mark's trying to get Mark arrested.
But we were in, like,
we're clearly in like the comp area.
So I.
No, no, no, no, I ain't true.
I ain't get conk.
I did not get conked.
No salute.
There were some extra seats there, so I figured Mark and his wife could come over and hang out.
And then if the people show up, then you know.
Because what happened?
That was always awkward.
I thought I had, we bought good seats, but then the way the stage was, it was like a back part of the stage and a front part of the stage.
When we got there, he was still in the back part of the the stage.
So, I was like, yo, we far as shit.
I didn't pay all this money for the BFR.
But then, when he came around, he was right.
We were like basically front row for the front of the stage.
But I didn't know that.
So, I was texting them, like, yo, we gotta go somewhere else.
My wife is complaining.
I don't care.
Well, now, my problem was when we got there, I thought I was somebody.
I mean, we're in New Jersey.
Mad love from the people in the crowd.
It's met life.
Yeah.
Nigga, who ain't, nigga, we.
So, hey, hey, go drive over to the private, to the private parking lot over there.
So, where we normally park for summer jam, man.
So, yeah, we don't, but we don't have a, hey, man, let's go pull up over there.
Man,
told us to get the fuck out there.
Hey, I rolled the window there.
I said, so send him over to my side.
Hey, hit a button, nigga.
That's fine.
I said, so, send him over.
I roll up the
Nigga, Sergei don't watch the pod.
I said, hey, look, so he did watch it.
He didn't give a fuck.
Look, I'm looking right at the light.
It's right there.
I'm rolling one to the
headed right over there.
She said, no, you're not.
She said, do you have a pass?
I said, no.
She said, okay, so let me see your ticket.
Okay, so you're going to walk mad far,
mad far, and then that'll get you where you got to go.
So, all right, cool.
We're in a good mood.
We had had a concert.
Look, we just get out in the rain and walk mad far.
So me, Corey, Amani, Erickson,
walk.
What you did, ish.
We were paid.
No, you can't pay.
You can't pay.
I paid and got pretty good parking.
No, no, no.
You can't pay what I did in that private parking lot that we talking about.
And the handicap is not going to get you in this parking lot that we talking about.
Listen, the handicap gets you right out of the room.
I stuck my boot up and I went, ma'am,
it's 500 right in that boot for you, too.
And they already directed you to Hackensack Hospital or wherever people with that boot on should be at.
You wasn't getting there.
But anyways, we get out and we walk.
I don't mind walking.
It ain't no big deal.
We walk.
Hiking it.
Hiking it.
Hiking it.
Every door we tried to get in, they was like, nah, you got to keep walking further.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so we keep walking further.
Man, we went to security guards like, yo, where do we go for this?
That nigga said.
The other side of the standing.
Oh, God damn.
That long zigzaggy line with all of the white people.
We look that line was ridiculous.
Oh, y'all got a lot of people.
I walked right in.
I walked right in.
Yo, why you ain't started pumping?
I said, oh, pump, pump, pump, pump.
That's like, come on, pump this guy.
Well, that doesn't always solve things, Anne.
I wouldn't have thought it did.
But when we saw the line, that's when I made a phone call and we were able to be escorted with the proper treated like who the fuck we are and how we're supposed to be.
Appreciate you.
Thank you.
That was great.
What's my other beef about this show?
I got a few beefs about this show.
How much of it did you have?
I had some bad experiences.
Yeah, we're.
I know.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't know where you can ever.
No, no, I'm just saying, like, before you got there, all that shit y'all went through.
The seats were amazing, too.
We was right there.
We could walk.
We can walk.
Shit.
But anyway, once we got in there, we was good.
The seats were great.
Seats were amazing.
The wristbands alleviated, all of those work.
Because it was a lot of people working.
It was a lot of security there.
A lot of security.
It was a lot of security.
The horses, the horse cops, all that shit.
They had the dudes out there with the AR-15s on them.
Yeah, yeah, no.
There was a lot of security.
Security that day looked like that meeting they had before this morning, strict instructions.
We're not playing with none of y'all.
And I totally understand that with stars as big as Kendrick and Scissor.
As soon as they got on stage, they threw them in the SUVs, police escort, straight out.
My second beef:
internet,
we could put the
who sold out and who didn't sell out seats
debate to rest.
Yeah, yeah.
That one is not important.
Trust me.
It's not, it's, it's with the amount of people that came out to see them people.
Yeah.
Two nights in a row.
Fast.
Two nights in a row.
Back to back-to-back nights.
And the mall.
Huh?
And the mall.
And the mall pop-up.
Since it did the mall pop up and shut the whole, all four, three or four floors.
Shut down.
I'm just saying it's a lot 50,000 people.
55,000 people is a lot of people for y'all to talk about the 2,000 people that.
45,000.
It don't matter.
Yeah.
If you got 48,000 people in the 60,000 people venue, my nigga, shut the fuck up.
Especially stadium like that.
I don't care what you're talking about.
Everybody's singing word for word.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yo, and that's what it looked like.
It was crazy.
It wasn't a lot of empty seats.
Little kids in there singing those lines.
Which led to what I said.
One of the security guards was singing.
Right.
Which led to what I did next, which was Pocket Watch.
Sure.
So now, as I'm watching the show, I'm here looking at the production.
I'm counting the dancers.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, shout out to the dancers.
They were gorgeous, too.
Shout out to the dancers.
They were.
All of them.
I loved Kendrick's because
there were a lot of beautiful dark-skinned dancers, too, which I thought was really dope.
Yeah, they had a lot of dochies.
Yeah.
Yes.
It was like they had a Dochi factory.
That's what it looked like.
Every dancer looked like Dochi.
It was dope.
A fire.
It was dope.
That was probably, yeah, shout out to the dancers.
Damn, what the fuck was I just talking about?
You're talking about the budget.
Pocket watching.
Oh, yeah, pocket watching.
Yo, dog, man, this little motherfucker, these two going back and forth
on your stage.
Over the stage.
Ooh, okay, now the GNX is drinking.
Ooh, it's going down.
Ooh, it's coming up.
All right, now let's get the dancers come out.
Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
All right, now we're playing a movie.
Yo, these niggas are making a killing.
Yeah, the children are not going to be able to do that.
They are making a kick, man.
It looked like it was hanging from the shit.
They're making an absolute killing up there.
And I gotta say, yo, the performance of all the stars that was fire.
With the lights and shit, shout out to the sky.
That was fire.
That was fire.
And they're on the risers and shit.
Yeah, that shit was fire.
With all the pyro,
that might have been my.
That and Euphoria were my highlights.
The pyro was the best part because it got warm for like two seconds.
Yeah, because it was a little brick.
It was a cool little bit.
Oh, yeah, shit.
Brick is not fair.
It was a little brick out there.
Yeah.
That pyro, that little three seconds.
They need to turn that on.
But that was in my pocket watching because I'm like, it cost to keep cutting that on.
And it went off quite a few times.
Quite a few times.
So there it is.
I'm watching these niggas go under the stage, over the stage, under the stage, over the stage.
I'm like, yo,
he's shorter than I thought.
You know how many times I went to take my phone out and tape and lost him?
Yo, I'm like, yo, where is this little motherfucker?
And he got the nerve to be standing in the back sometimes talking about something.
No, no, no, when you do the crouch down, like you already
see him, your dog.
He is tinier than I thought.
Yes.
He looked like 5'6 ⁇ , 5'5-5'6.
That's generous.
Nah,
he's probably somewhere around there.
He's about to hide 5'7 ⁇ .
Maybe.
That's hilarious.
He's not,
respectfully, Mob Deep Short.
But that stage was humongous.
The stage was swallowing him pause.
Yeah, it was, in my opinion.
It was a big fucking stage.
Yeah, I was that stage was huge.
Yeah, the big you, it was like a big you or whatever that was, big circle, however, it was shit.
When you hit them far quarters, I couldn't find a beat there.
Yeah, and then the whole time as I'm sitting there, I was having a blast.
I'm like, okay, sis on her earthy shit.
She on her, you know, that vibe.
And she's giving me that for about 90 minutes.
Cool, I enjoy that.
Man,
then she came out and started riding a grasshopper.
I'm like, okay.
There's a lot of bugs.
There's a lot of bug energy.
And now I got to watch the dude grasshoppers behind her.
By the prey matrices.
I was high, so I was enjoying the shit.
She got dogs.
Yo, if you was at that show high, that grasshopper shit was a trip.
You needed some Sherelle shit?
Yo, what?
I was loving them motherfuckers.
Yo, the nigga next to me was like, dog,
if that grasshopper has a steering wheel and she starts driving that bitch, I'm leaving.
Yo, she did.
She rode that shit like a motorcycle.
Yo, scissor has to stop.
No, it was not.
That goes back to the art class.
But you're not a grasshopper.
Get on.
Yo, if I was a stage handler or somebody responsible for the, oh my lord.
So the grasshopper thing was funny.
The dude grasshoppers doing this
behind.
That was hilarious.
What else was hilarious?
What else was hilarious, dear,
for me?
I enjoyed the set.
I enjoyed the set.
I love the set.
I love the set.
I left early now, too.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yo, when he told me when he left, I'm looking at the set list.
I'm like, bro, you missed.
He's like, no, that was towards the end.
I'm like, Joe,
I must have counted about six.
15 records.
But they also made that show a lot longer than I think it needed to be.
Agreed.
I agree with that part.
They started at 8.15 on the dot.
Yeah.
And I want to to shout out all you bitch-ass niggas out there that went to shows in other cities and then told me, No, you got to go for mustard.
You got to be there for mustard.
So you know what I did?
I showed up and saw mustard.
Mustard ain't new shit.
Come on.
That nigga stood up there and played some mustard records.
I got them songs.
I was in the parking lot.
He said,
I missed mustard records.
I missed mustard songs.
I heard you in the parking lot.
I was there before all of y'all.
Well, I was there, but I was waiting for Rem, you know.
We was at the mall first.
I do.
I do.
We went to the mall.
both dreams and then went.
Both of y'all was waiting for y'all.
Maddish.
I was mad as shit.
I got the babysitter.
We left here early, which is a miracle.
I drove from Edgewater back to my crib 45-minute drive, got dressed, got the babysitter, fed the baby, came out.
She's like,
I just don't know what I'm going to wear.
I'm like,
it's going to be black outside.
It's a stadium and it's cold.
It's raining and cold.
Yeah.
Right.
I was mad as shit.
And then she wanted to stay to the end because my wife is, I love her that she's a wonderful, extraordinary woman who doesn't quite always understand how time works.
That's a lot.
I can relate.
Women don't fuck with, women don't care about time.
So I was like, all right, baby, not like that.
I thought not like it was going to be the last song.
A lot of people did.
Uber said, two minutes.
I said, so when the song starts, I'm going to call the Uber and then we'll walk to the parking lot.
She's like, well, let's just wait for one more song.
Then Luther came on.
I was like, everybody's going to leave when Luther comes on.
She said, well, let's just see.
Then she heard another song.
I was like, no, we out.
So now that two minutes turned to 82 minutes.
I'm not exaggerating.
Oh my God.
So I said, she said, Mark, didn't you say Joe came with some friends?
Let's just ride back with Joe.
I said, I promise you, Joe Button is not in the stadium right now.
There's a better chance that Joe is home right now.
That is a fact.
You know the crazy part?
I stayed to the absolute end
and drove.
Walked out.
I was in my house within 30 minutes.
Same, same.
I didn't hit a list of traffic.
I got super lucky when I came in.
There's a long ass line for the parking.
They kept trying to, you know, keep it moving.
And I just saw a homeboy like, yo, yo, got to get in here.
He's like, you sure can.
Pull right in there, like one of the first lots, right when you pull in the little.
They gave me an email and was like, yo, if you, if to get past this, go to this window, so park here.
So I'm like, all right, back.
I drove all the way around till I found that parking lot.
Oh, hung my joint up there, and I was.
I ain't know no better.
My dumbass took Uber.
The Uber lot was like, it was the worst choice a human being could ever make.
I'm so bad.
So instead of being out there first, I'm standing out there last in gin pop.
No disrespect, but having to talk to every black person who walked by on a week where more black people saw me probably than they had in a couple years.
it was so fun.
I eventually just went in the bathroom and waited.
In the edge head?
Waiting
for nobody?
I was just in the store.
It's going to sound like a shot.
It's not.
With all due respect, Mark.
Do you know how to be hot?
I don't like to be.
I like to stay out the way.
Bullshit.
Carry on.
Thank you, Mark.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about
dead ass.
I just wanted to go to the show, sneak out, get in the car, and go home without talking to anybody.
Mark.
It's like an hour.
Without any level of destiny.
If that was your plan, you would have had a hoodie on that.
If that was your plan, then at no point should you have been in the Uber section of Met Life.
Do you know that the Joe Button podcast is pretty popular in New Jersey?
I get.
That's why I wanted to leave.
Salute for sure.
A lot of people.
Y'all should be sitting on this.
I'm not beef with the rest.
A lot of people just have no idea.
They just be like, I was in the Uber section, me and my wife.
Y'all should tell the title.
Whenever y'all see my wife, tell her this.
This waiting.
This is why I wanted to leave with not like us.
So that everybody was, when everybody was still in the stadium, so that I wouldn't have to pass anybody.
If we had left when I wanted to leave, I wouldn't have seen anybody.
But by the time we left, everybody was walking out, and then I got stuck.
Dog, I was looking around that stadium, seeing all those people and the lights with their phones out, and all I could think to myself was: one, this is beautiful,
and outside, it was a beautiful night.
Like, it was a nice night.
So, the weather held up.
Yeah, yeah, it didn't rain, didn't rain on me, cold as a bitch, bro.
Coldest.
And two, that sweatsuit on.
I just couldn't imagine being on Route three
leaving at the same time as all of these people.
So I'm like, yo, dog, if he just would play like that, I could be on my way.
And as soon as I said that, at around 9.50.
White bitches sat down.
I stood up.
You got your joint because Euphoria was early.
You wanted to be a bad thing.
Euphoria was early.
I need you to be a little bit of a business.
Yo, if I wasn't there with these niggas, I really could have left in 20 minutes.
You said you was like, yo, as long as I get euphoria, I'm like, yo, that's dumb early.
I could have left in 20 minutes.
I'm cool.
Yo, because what I noticed too, and I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it.
Like,
they in tour mode now.
So I'm looking at Kendrick be in tour mode too.
Like, preserve some energy.
Just walk a little differently.
Like, it wasn't pop-out energy.
Oh, no.
Not at all.
Not at all.
And I feel feel them because just being a spectator, I was exhausted.
So I can't imagine being up there.
Three hours ago, bro.
And you just
pop-up.
I know this to a life.
Not just that different stuff.
Like the pop-up stage, even though it was a big stage, it ain't have that whole
half you walk all the way over there to come.
I was in both.
It was not even close.
Yeah.
That was an arena show.
This is a stadium.
And it is very fucking different.
I was a big-ass stage there.
Like over to the part where you was at?
Hell yeah.
Them little
pathway.
Not just that.
Yo, you got another show and another show.
You just did this last night.
Yeah, dog.
Like, that shit is.
You got to save your voice, though.
Like, at some point, I wasn't even mad at when Scissor wasn't singing and it was the TV track.
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
She was doing all types of shit.
I was that again, back to my impressiveness with her.
Like, she was doing some fucking yoga, kind of stretching out, laying back, and still singing.
And then she went out to it.
They had an after-party.
But when like that, she did some motherfuckers.
When like that went off, I think DNA came on.
I was like, ooh,
I'll stay for DNA.
It's like, encore for me.
And then after DNA,
we walked to the fucking back where our little bands, because we had the worker band.
So we walked to the back, but by now the show was in effect, so they're acting funny.
You can't go back this way without an escort.
I said, all right, escort us.
Like, no, you need that.
Listen, we got these bands that say we can go wherever the fuck we want, and I'm famous, and I'm not walking that way.
So you either gonna escort us, or I don't know, but I'm going that way.
It's like, I'll escort you guys.
I know you will.
You got the fuck out of this so pulled up in a timely fashion.
I felt like ice cube today was a good day.
So, pulled up in a timely fashion.
We hopped on that three.
It wasn't a car in sight.
That was like that ice cube triple-double.
Nigga,
I was home in a heartbeat.
I think that everybody must have taken the Ubers because I had no problem with trying to get it.
Everybody was in the Uber.
Like,
I walked out of Gloria and I was like, yo, it's no traffic.
Bet.
And we was home.
Also, I mean, I gotta say, during the mustard set,
shout out to the white young male and female TikTokers I saw that was dancing to all the mustard songs and self-editing nigga out of the song.
That shit take concentration.
It was a few times I would have slipped up.
No, that white nigga was doing a dance to my nigga and didn't do nigga.
I was like, oh, shit.
He killing that shit.
So shout out to the white TikToker self-edited nigga.
Y'all was killing that shit.
Man, I don't have nothing else to say about this.
I had a great time.
Shout out to Kendrick.
Gracious.
I'm glad I got to do both the pop-up experience or pop-out experience and the stadium tour experience.
Yeah, I'm hating.
But I've seen that pop-up show so many times.
I watched it.
I damn it regular shit memorized.
I got the five-year-old.
You want to watch it every now and then.
It is.
That one in
the Paris show.
That shit, yeah.
That shit was.
The Paris show that he did for the Mr.
Morale.
That shit was crazy.
They were both simplified in different ways.
The Scissor thing I loved because my wife is a huge Scissor fan.
She loves Kendrick too, but it was a great date show.
Yes.
And had it been 10 degrees warmer out, it would have been a greater dizzy show.
And that's why I like them doing the back and forth.
Because, like I said, let's say Scissor comes out first, does her records.
The women that were really just there for her,
they bored now.
Right.
So
it kept everybody engaged all show.
They did like six, seven joints, then a joint together, and then the other person takes over.
Well, that's the thing, too, is I'm a huge Scissor fan, but I was thinking during the Scissor breaks, well, I'll go to the bathroom, I'll get a drink, whatever, whatever.
But
don't want to leave the wife here in the crowd alone.
And you're a better husband than me.
I was in that chicken finger line the whole fucking census, man.
It was good, too.
It was hot as shit.
You know what I mean?
It was cold.
All they had to do is be hot.
Yeah, I'll do better next time.
Mel.
Yes.
You didn't make the show.
I didn't.
No, I went to go see Othello on Broadway.
I see you got the merch.
Is that merch or is that like a gift from the
from Othello himself?
It's both, actually.
It was both.
So
yeah, so Denzel's security got me and my girlfriend into the balcony seats.
Just put them on.
Put them on.
Let's go, Mel.
Yeah.
So it was a really lovely experience.
I bet.
Yeah.
So
that was my third time seeing Denzel on Broadway.
First time was Julius Caesar.
Second was Fences.
And then now there's.
How did it compare?
Yeah, how was it?
Well, the thing that I didn't realize, and it's a,
is that.
I'm sorry, but I don't mean to step on this, but I just have
a question before we get to the review of the performance.
Yeah.
So,
Denzel's security.
Start us there,
how you got to the theater, how you got the tickets, and how you ended up in the special booth.
Well, I was with my girlfriend Kelly.
We don't give a fuck about
the booth on the special.
What the fuck, man?
Shout out, Kelly.
You're here.
Shout out Kelly here.
And you know Kelly.
Oh, then I love Kelly.
Yes, exactly.
You know Darvin Kelly.
Exactly.
Tatiana Kelly.
Kelly.
Exactly.
That's fucking fast.
I don't know who Kelly is.
No, no, I know who Kelly is.
So Kelly's now at Brooklyn Chop House.
Exactly.
And so when the play came to Broadway, they had kind of like a
night for them, you know, the entire cast and crew, et cetera, at Brooklyn Chop House.
Can I interrupt you really quickly?
Go ahead.
We need to redo the industry list.
Oh, yeah.
On air.
We haven't done that in a long time.
We haven't done that in ages, but we should get a clear understanding with this crew.
Mel is number one.
Mel is number one.
For sure.
Joe's number two.
What this is?
What do you know what that is?
The industry list.
It's a throwback.
Who's the most industry?
Industry meaning like mixy amongst people in the entertainment industry.
Me?
Yeah.
You?
And it's not even close.
I'm giving it to Ish.
What?
What?
I'm last.
No, you ain't last, but.
No,
he might be last.
He's last.
You're not last.
You're ain't now.
Yeah, you are last.
You're right.
I'm last.
I had you second to last, but.
How would he be last?
Who would be last?
I'm talking about now.
He is Mr.
Outside Outside.
Huh?
No, on every podcast.
Oh, that's what we're talking about.
So everything is crazy.
So it doesn't matter.
So, like, the slow-mo walk with Simba.
Yeah, that's why he's not last.
That was two years ago.
That was one thing, though.
Yeah, don't count that hard.
He's seen Simba a few times.
We might have to return to this for the Patriots or something.
But anyway, I just wanted to
number one on this list.
Okay.
All right.
Well, Joe two, flip three,
Ice four.
ICE is three.
Me and Ish tied for last.
I had him.
That's why I had you second to last in the hip, but
we'll get to it.
We got to get to that.
I want to hear your
three.
Anyway, back to number one on this list.
Okay, so anyways, they hosted the cast and crew when the play at Brooklyn Thompson
first happened.
So Kelly meets Sal,
coolest dude on the planet.
And basically,
that was how we got into the balconies.
He just reserved them for us.
It was lovely.
It was great.
It was fan fucking tastic.
Wonderful show.
Full house.
Like, I guess the play started in February, maybe March, and it has been like...
End of February, I think.
Yeah, end of February.
And it's going to like June 8th or something like that.
Full house every single night, every single performance.
I was pocket watching trying to figure out how much did Denzel make off of this.
Like, I'm thinking he's maybe like 20 mil is the price tag.
I'm thinking.
I have no idea.
I'm thinking that.
We don't know how much he made, but
I was trying to, like, you know, kind of like that.
We're sure he got some back in there.
Yeah, we should, we sure.
Oh, no, he definitely got him.
You're trying to divert us.
Not now, fuck on that.
What he made.
So the play was really great.
What I didn't know is that they were going to set it in modern times.
So I thought that they were going to come out with like, you know, the robes.
Yeah.
So not only is it set in modern times, but it's Shakespearean language and it's also like the modern kind of gesticulation.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, Romeo and Juliet the movie, sort of, but kind of, sort of, yeah.
Yeah.
And then they make some alterations as well towards the end when all the, you know, all the catastrophic shit happens.
But Jake Gyllenha was fucking incredible.
Denzel was, I mean, he's Denzel.
Did you get to see him or talk to him after?
I did not.
Okay.
I did not.
I would like to go see Othello.
I'm going to try to see it before.
Did you drive to him?
I'm going to get it.
No, I I did not try to.
I did not.
I didn't want to go.
There's something to that, right?
This is the last time y'all saw each other.
At the spot, yeah.
Yeah, no, that was cool.
Yeah,
don't worry.
You got the hookup, let me know.
I'm not.
But you still got it.
Nigga, the security guard, remember you?
Yeah, it was fun.
And it was.
And hey.
Oh, look how you look how you blown up.
And then we went back over to Brooklyn Chop House.
Shout out to Don Pooh and saw Jason Tatum in there.
Okay.
Yeah, he was in the back.
I was like, don't you have a game tomorrow?
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
Let me mind the business.
Did you talk to him at all?
Yeah.
So.
You don't give a fuck, right?
What?
Well, you don't even care no more.
Did you guys talk about that?
Before you started talking, did you come up to him or he come to you?
I
was brought over to his table.
So you went up to him?
I was brought over to his table.
Watch your fucking mouth by force.
Stop, please.
She was brought to this table.
They do that in there.
They do that.
They tell you who's there and they bring you to the table.
They do that a lot of times with me.
She's not wrong.
Yo, this person's over there.
I'm going to bring you over there.
As a matter of fact, I did not want to go over because I was like, I do not want to interrupt this man and his meal.
What the fuck?
You know what I mean?
Like, it's not going to be a good thing.
It's something that they do.
It's something that they do there.
How did they convince you?
It was Dawn told, come, Melissa.
And I was like, all right.
You're You're hilarious.
Did you sit at the table with her?
You were hilarious.
No, I did not.
What?
You sat at the table?
I did not sit at the fucking table.
I'm the chicken fry rice.
She started butter and bread and shit.
No.
That looks good.
That's a little far, man.
Well.
It's funny you mentioned it because I was going to bring up the
text that you put
in our podcast group chat don't you dare
cut that off all you gotta do
all you gotta do is show up to a game and they'll win
Isn't that the track record?
Every time he shows up to a game, don't try to reverse it.
Read what she wrote.
Read what she wrote.
Don't.
Fuck you.
You were joking crazy.
So you wrote this in the group chat and then somehow ended up at his table.
She probably wrote that from his table.
Yes, she did.
Oh, yeah.
Look at the time.
Check the time.
That's what happened, isn't it?
Look, see, she said,
Joe, you know, number one.
That's number one on the list right there.
Right.
No,
you can't even.
I read, maybe a little afterwards.
That was 11.10 when she texted us.
Hold on.
Yeah, that was 11.10 under p.m.
You got to do the science.
I guarantee you that shit was real.
No, no, no.
The first one was 11 o'clock p.m.
Yeah.
The theater.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
So the theater's right next to Brooklyn Chop House, so I didn't really, I didn't have to walk far.
As soon as the first
one was the first time,
you're at the theater.
That's what we're saying.
Listen, I was just trying to.
Girl, you cannot.
Oh, one Patreon.
Take one for the team.
One Patreon.
So, anyways.
Take one for the team.
Fucking Celtics won, and then he came back and had 40 before this fucking tragic injury.
Well,
I don't know.
Delayed reaction.
Yep.
To the Patreon for sure.
Oh, yeah,
thank you.
I mean, I did my best.
You'll lead us.
There you go.
I think I did.
I did my best.
You will fucking lead us.
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The Puff trial started the other day.
It's going to be quite a spring summer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Day one didn't go well for the puff,
from what the legal experts are saying.
Prosecution laid out an argument.
I don't know if it's going to work or not.
Well, the legal non-experts are saying he had a great first day.
Yeah.
The legal non-experts are saying that he absolutely smoked it and his team of attorneys put on a masterclass.
Yeah, that's the sentiment I got.
That's what I've been hearing from a lot of the cultural critics, a lot of the observers, and then a lot of legal experts are saying that
they're setting the trap for his team.
Again, it'll be interesting to see which direction it goes in.
But
to me,
Puff has a pretty...
He has an argument that will be legible to a juror, which is, I'm a wild dude.
I like freaky shit.
People willingly did the freaky shit.
I do fucked up things, but I never did the things they charged me with.
To me, that's a winnable case.
But the legal experts are saying the prosecution has a few things in the tuck, particularly the male escort who testified.
That is going to be a harder thing to defeat.
And then the other thing is with Cassie's testimony,
even though...
Cassie is saying she willfully did some of these things.
She's also saying she felt scared that she couldn't.
And so the domestic violence angle is going to be a thing that may stay in the juror's head, even if it doesn't make legal sense to some people.
Jurors aren't always persuaded by the law, by the facts of the case, until they're persuaded by this monster.
If you believe Puff is a monster, then you may believe other things.
And unfortunately, sometimes juries convict you on the kind of person you are, not on the actual charge.
Yeah, the letter of the law.
Absolutely.
I'm totally with that if you present anything having to do with the actual charges.
And I just didn't hear that in day one.
Not saying they don't have it in the talk,
but
I didn't see or read anything directly related to the case.
They did like a summarization as to the key takeaways of day one.
So I'll just read the headlines.
Okay.
So the prosecution highlights the two main accusers, which was Cassie, also a woman identified as Jane, according to the assistant U.S.
Attorney.
And basically, it's just talking about the coercion of the freak offs and that sort of thing.
The defense questions the accuser's motives,
which is another key takeaway,
which is a typical thing that they would do.
In addition to that, both sides agree that Combs committed domestic violence.
There's no way that they could get away with, you know, acting like it didn't happen.
The video in question is also admissible
as a piece of evidence, as are the freak-off videos.
I think that there's some editing that's happening with them, so it's not the entire duration.
And the jurors have been instructed to wear headphones when they're watching and listening to it because it's apparently extraordinarily graphic, both visually and audibly.
Like I said, the jury will see video of the freak-offs that was established as well.
And like I said, the video of the hotel attack is central to the prosecution's case because, like Joe was saying,
his character is on trial right now.
That's just the bottom line.
His character is on trial, and everything that they have heard about this man prior to and during this whole thing
might actually be what persuades some of the jurors to make their decision.
There was the male escort who testified, he said he was paid for sex.
He testified that Combs assaulted Ventura twice by way of his witness.
And again, testimony about explicit and graphic descriptions.
And also,
Puffy's whole family was was there to show support.
Which was super interesting.
That, I'm going back to the male escort, right?
He, again, he says he was paid to have sex.
If you're a juror, you may say, All right, well, I was paid to have sex.
He was paid to have sex.
That's fine, right?
Whether I like it, agree with it, or not, that's not illegal.
The problem is that I think it is illegal.
I'm sorry, it doesn't make the other, it doesn't prove that he broke the other laws, right?
Absolutely.
The sex stuff is illegal, but it doesn't mean that it was forced, coercion, right?
And honestly, if the worst thing Diddy caught was a prostitution charge, he'd probably be very happy with
that outcome.
The problem is,
one of the things that the escort is testifying to and already testified to was that he witnessed a lot of abuse with Cassie.
So if Cassie's saying, I was scared not to do this, I was forced into this.
And you have a male escort saying, yeah, I watched her be forced into some of the stuff that we did.
That's where the jury is going to have to have, that's where the jury is going to have to make some decisions about whether they trust Puffy's account or whether they trust Cassie's account, et cetera.
that's where it's gonna get murky for him.
Yeah, well, I mean, like, they're talking the whole overarching theme here is coercion and consent, you know.
And so, with the male escort saying that she paid for everything, whatever,
that doesn't necessarily mean that she wasn't coerced.
That doesn't necessarily mean that his reach is not that far, the perception of his reach is not that far.
You know what I mean?
That she wouldn't do his bidding for him out of fear.
But it also, it it also doesn't prove that she wasn't doing that on her own.
Like they have to,
like you said, coercion is basically what's trying to be proven here.
That's not proving it.
He's saying she paid for it, and they're just trying to allude to the fact that Puff did whatever.
From what I read, day one,
I don't see it yet.
Well, again, remember what the charges are, right?
There's five criminal counts.
Racketeering, sex trafficking by force fraud or coercion and transportation to engage in prostitution
it sounds like just by observation two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution seems like that's not going to be that hard to prove right right right um two counts of sex trafficking by force that's a little bit that's a little bit tougher the rico one is probably going to be the hardest one to prove right but but sex trafficking by force fraud or coercion becomes
It comes down to whether you believe Cassie is, if you have an eyewitness saying this was done to me, right?
You also have evidence that she was abused.
Again,
a person could read this and say, hey, maybe this is a revenge prosecution.
Someone could hear this and say, why should we not believe Cassie?
That's what the video kind of.
That's what I'm saying.
So, all these, all the video evidence, all that stuff could make someone have strong feelings, as people do, about Puff, whether or not you agree with the charges or not.
And so to me, a lot of it's going to come down who you believe Cassie or did he?
Well, Puff, pardon me, Puff's defense opened with this
50 million reasons not to believe
But this is the part that I'm confused about.
She signed a...
I mean, they reached a civil settlement already.
Or whatever that number was.
Whatever the number is, right?
I'm just saying, like, they signed, she got paid.
If the idea is this is a cash grab, she already got paid before the feds intervened.
So if this was a cash grab, she didn't need this case to get cash.
Who said it was a cash grab?
That's an insinuation.
That's what she just said.
She had 50 million reasons, like saying that this is.
That 50 million reasons don't have to be cash related.
I mean, that's usually an expression to refer to somebody getting.
It could be vengeful.
It could be revenge.
It could be a bunch of other reasons or incentives for her to, yo, nigga, you ruined my life.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, you ruined my life.
So I could be vengeful.
I could be trying to pay you back.
Which again goes back to the who do you believe, right?
So I think her already having a civil settlement makes her more believable, not less to people.
Because usually the argument is they're doing this to set up for the civil suit.
They're doing this to get paid.
Listen,
I don't have a horse in this race lord knows i've covered this longer than i would like to
but even with the civil settlement mark
there were a lot of people on the flip side of that there were a lot of people on the side of
i'm not gonna say it i get what you're saying i'm not gonna say it i i totally get your point though right the argument i mean i i'm not even making a case about who's right or wrong right now i'm just making odds about how the jury is going to read this that's all i'm saying and i'm just saying typically jurors are skeptical of people when they think they're doing a criminal case to set up to get paid later.
And I'm saying, since she's already...
I took that part out already.
And all I'm saying is since she's been paid, I think that that works in the prosecution's favor.
But if you are a person that believes, look, Cassie was along for the ride the whole time.
She, you know, she made these choices herself from day one, which some people, observers do believe,
if you're one of those people in the jury, then none of this is going to be persuasive to you.
So it's going to come down to just whose credibility you believe ultimately.
But I do think if you keep showing orgies and sex tapes and male escorts and abuse videos, that's going to do something to the jury.
It's going to inspire strong feelings
one way or the other.
She's testifying kind of as we're recording this, and she's already let them know, like, he moved me closer to him.
He would send security and assistance if he can't find me.
So the stage is being set to.
I'm under his control.
Right.
That he wasn't, that she was, he wasn't necessarily, he wasn't just enabling, he was enforcing.
Yeah.
So then, what if they posed a question that how was she able to find, if he was so controlling, how was she able to get with her current husband?
I mean, people eventually do leave, not all the time, but people often do eventually leave, whether it's a.
You're saying they pose that question.
I think that's because I found the strength to leave.
Yeah, it's tough because there's no way to represent the opposite side of what Mark and Mel are saying without sounding away.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
So, is there no way to do it?
It's just about like it's a defense.
I think it's going to come and boil down to the
whoever they pick for the jury.
It's going to be really, really, really, really
pivotal.
Like if you pick some people that are
somewhat cynical,
that shit going to fly.
I heard they have a bunch of videos.
I heard some of those videos are very, very, very telling.
I even heard there are videos where Puff is not there and is not present.
So, if that's the case, it's like, you know what I mean?
Like, it's going to be,
it's going to be some shit.
But she can also say that he was watching the cameras the entire time and it was an instruction for him for her to follow.
And then he got off of watching the footage later.
Exactly.
There's a lot of arguments both ways.
Yeah.
And finally, I think some of it's just a philosophical question about
how you see control.
Yeah.
Right.
Because at some level, you could call anything control.
Yeah, I'm about to say, then
his his sheer celebrity would be control.
Yeah.
And this is going to be, this is why I think Diddy's defense has more ground than people may have thought six months ago or a year ago, because I think people thought that the videos would be more smoking gun.
The videos are smoking gun about sex happening.
The videos are smoking gun about prostitution and escort.
And the videos are a smoking gun about physical abuse.
When you start talking about physical abuse versus, yo, I'm flying people in to conduct sexual acts I'm sex quote-unquote trafficking all of that other stuff I think those things become harder to prove I think yo we know he was whipping her ass like
before the tape in all honesty people know that puff was beating this girl's ass before the tape
even surfaced.
But again, when you start accusing somebody of running a criminal organization and enterprise, that's going to be something that's harder to prove than me beating your ass.
And again, that's where it's going to get met.
It's really going to come down to me to what the jury, how the, like you said, the jury's disposition toward these people, how they see people, how they see celebrity, how they see force, how they see relationships.
This is going to, I think, by the end of this trial, there's going to be a lot of people mad at each other and fighting with each other.
Not about, it's not like OJ,
was he really in the woods?
It's going to be like, can a person be morality and integrity going to be on trial?
All of it is, right?
I mean, if you're in a relationship with a celebrity and you say, well, I did these things because I felt forced to, I felt coerced to.
The physical abuse is one kind of coercion, but financial coercion and then fraud, all these things are things that are a lot more subjective and debatable to a lot of people.
We laugh and joke up here all the time about what y'all be saying?
The financial physical abuse.
Bruh, if that's the case,
it creates a really great area for, yo, this house mom sits at home.
This man makes all the money.
So on the days that he might want to come home and get some coochie and she ain't really up for it.
Like, that's, I'm simple.
I'm oversimplifying it.
Of course, I'm not saying that they're parallels, but I'm just saying, like,
that opens the door to that.
And that's why the prosecution is going to focus on the violence.
They're going to make it seem like it wasn't just this abstract thing.
It was a lot of, she was literally scared for her life.
And I'm not saying she wasn't.
I personally happen to believe Cassie, but I understand that this is not an open and shut case by any stretch.
And if you'd asked me a year ago, I would have said, oh, Diddy's, they got him.
But when I look at the actual charges and what the actual evidence is, this is a lot, a lot messier.
Anyway, well, she's on the stand right now talking about the abuse that she suffered.
And that is the focus of her testimony right now.
Right.
You know, according to her.
See, that leads me to believe that they don't have the same thing.
They don't have the strongest sex trafficking case.
They're promising to have more.
That's what I'm saying.
In their opening argument, they suggested that they have some footage that is more smoking guns than a witness.
That don't work on me.
But no, hold up for a second.
That don't work on me because I've heard that for months.
I've heard that for for months and months and months.
And
I've seen nothing be brought to the table besides things that were immaterial.
Like, you're telling me about the baby oil.
Like, you're telling me about all of this shit that just don't really matter.
One, and two, even with the thug case where the public, the
court of public opinion maybe thought that he was out of here.
But once we get into
how
these celebrities are being handled, how the evidence is being handled, how there seems to be a rush to judgment.
Yeah, a rush to prosecute.
It just seemed like there's some other celebrity shit that goes on that
helps prosecutors drop the ball in terms of how evidence is presented.
So, I mean, this has been too many months for me with this puff shit to not hear more than the horrible shit that we know, which is he's an abuser.
Everything that his lawyer is saying, hey, he's a piece of shit.
He's horrible.
Cool.
However, he didn't do this.
He didn't do this.
Which is is the defense's argument.
But moving over from Puff for a second,
you said something that I think is really interesting about the thug case,
because it's a parallel there around the RICO.
The RICO is used way too often these days.
Yeah, like that shit don't.
And when you ever seen a one-person RICO,
and I, well, an argument, it wouldn't be his, the argument is that he's using the label and all of the things to do this stuff.
I've never seen a RICO with no co-defendants.
Oh, I see.
That was the point of the RICO.
That's a RICO.
You running a criminal
He's running it by himself.
He doesn't have no co-bees.
He's saying with his business, he's utilizing his business and the people that work for him, too.
They get charged.
So they can get charged.
You can, right?
But obviously, he was the only person they wanted to get.
But the RICO is being used now.
Like, for example, in the Atlanta teacher scandal, when the teachers were allegedly cheating on standardized tests
in Atlanta, there were 14 or 16 of them.
They didn't just arrest the teachers for corruption or criminal theft.
They charged them with the RICO.
Middle school teachers and high school teachers
for allegedly cheating, erasing student answers on a standardized test.
It was intended for the crime families.
It was intended to stop low-level people from
taking the hit for the bosses.
And now they're using it against anybody who owns a business, anybody who's part of an organization.
And again, let's assume Diddy is 100% guilty.
I'm not convinced RICO is the right charge.
Let's assume Thug had been.
I still don't think in any of these cases, the RICO can't be used like this because it's often overused against people who can't defend themselves.
Well,
the RICO kind of made sense because, again, we rounded up everybody because now
the RICO.
Yeah, that was the state state.
That was statewide.
And Georgia,
but Georgia is the state that uses the RICO.
Georgia also used it against the teachers.
It used to be a federal thing.
Now, Georgia, I think 78 or 79, started using the RICO statewide for everybody.
I can see the point.
Yeah, I see what you're saying about that.
Because the thug case was applicable.
That's why they kept trying to tie him to the bloods.
That makes sense, too.
You get what I'm saying?
Okay, that makes sense then.
I'm wrong.
So it seems like that's a good example of it.
Yeah.
Teachers are a bad example of it.
It sounds like Puff isn't a good example of it.
Even if you get everything.
Not for nothing, even with the teacher thing.
I get it.
They're not a gang.
But if I'm trying to...
It's a group of them.
It's a group.
It's a group, right?
And I'm trying to get whoever is at the top.
I can charge the Rico here because now I could convict all of y'all to come to me.
I'm going to switch all of y'all together.
If somebody's going to talk and roll on the other person, we roll up Hill.
And that's my issue with it.
It's not that I don't think it technically meets the standard, but it's being overused beyond its original intent.
Got it.
Because now you're giving people who should be getting five years, 30 years under RICO statutes for something that is relatively safe.
But I think that's why they use it.
They use it to intimidate
the co-defense corporation on the person that's higher.
Absolutely.
And offer you this massive time, 30 years, and then you end up working out a deal to get lesser time to, you know, for sure.
In the Georgia teacher cases, they got the
teachers to roll up on the principal.
I mean, was it?
It wasn't John Gotti,
They got Miss Edna.
You know what I'm saying?
Man, I ain't going to lie.
That's fast for Cassie to stand.
Yeah, I just, I think they.
I ain't going to lie.
Yeah, I just played it.
I think you played.
I think you're playing your big Joker early.
Unless that's not the big Joker earth.
Unless he doesn't get that reference.
Unless that's not the big Joker.
You urgent man?
No.
You still ain't going to play that.
No, I think they're shooting.
Let's see.
I don't think Cassie's the big Joker at all.
That's what I'm thinking, too.
I think they got something.
I think they got something in the tuck that nobody knows about.
That's possible.
You think they got like a Mark Fuhrman?
I think they.
Like that type of big?
Yeah.
But aren't they supposed to let his.
Yeah, I don't think it's an actual.
His lawyers know.
They're not going to pop up on TV.
I get what you're saying, but I think they are going to have.
I think the testimony is going to be more damning than people.
So both parties do know who they have.
Absolutely.
You got to get a witness list.
The faster this trial goes, the better for Puff, yes?
Yes, yes.
I think if the defense
calls all their witnesses by
two, three days, I think Puff comes home.
They said it's a two-month trial, though.
I expect it to be a two-month trial.
We'll see.
We'll see.
It's definitely going to at least be a month, but I.
Because I think they're trying to convict him in the court of public opinion.
Agreed.
That's what I see.
Clearly.
I think he could present the best case in the world.
He getting hit with something just because we want you to.
No, that's not actually.
Clearly, what was it transportation the prostitution that seems tough on the beat we getting you with somebody yeah it may not be i believe that uh the 10 years worth yeah but
i believe that yeah no you got off of the shine
nah we owe you one no sir no sir
i believe that i believe that when you get in front of them people and you get away if they want you they will yeah especially the feds
and they'll be on that shit like yo if i see you again you got me but
That's how I broke my foot at Starless.
The judge said, boy, if I see you anytime soon,
you are over.
I thought that was lack of childhood.
Oh, shit.
It's all right.
That's how I broke my foot.
No,
they don't blame the judge for not being able to hop the gates.
Well, no, I didn't spend my childhood groaning from the police.
Just a stereotype.
Just being a boy.
That's just a blast.
Jumping gates.
Yeah.
Being a boy.
It's all right.
I used to be that nigga with Jumping Gates.
I'm not talking about that Starlights Cape with you no more.
How are y'all feeling about this Tori Lanes thing?
This thing hit the news yesterday and people have been all online talking about it.
Not just the facts of the case, but also the why and how to feel about it.
Don't feel good about it.
What's the why?
In terms of why he was stabbed.
So let me say first, Tori Lanes
was stabbed.
14 times.
14 times according to his
Instagram.
His Instagram.
I want to make that clear.
The hospital hasn't confirmed that, and neither has the prison.
I'm not saying it didn't happen.
I'm inclined to believe him, but I just want to be clear that I want to read exactly what Tori Lane's
what Tori Lane said from his
Instagram account?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yo, I love 2025.
We don't know if that was Tory Lane's story lanes.
Tori's spelling.
We don't know.
And listen up.
Yo, let me read you what Tori said straight from his Instagram right after the incident.
It said, Tori was stabbed 14 times, including seven wounds to his back, four to his torso, two to the back of his head, and one to the left side of his face.
Both of his lungs collapsed, and he was placed on a breathing apparatus.
He is now breathing on his own.
Despite being in pain, he is talking normally, in good spirits, and deeply thankful to God that he is pulling through.
He also wants to thank everyone for their continued prayers and support.
What we know is a fact: he was stabbed and he was taken to an outside hospital.
Right.
And that's what we know for sure.
And originally, when a report came out, they said
non-life-threatening injuries.
That sounds different.
Two collapse lungs does not sound like it's just a walk in the park.
It sounds pretty life.
The reason why they're saying that is like just
allegedly a Mexican, Mexican gang in there.
It was like a hit.
They stabbed him up.
The rumors in the street are saying that because while Tori is in there, the black people around him, he's making sure that they eat.
He's making sure that they're good.
If you look at Tori wrong and all that, he's just, he's filling up everybody's, he's filling, he's
taking care of niggas inside the jail.
And
sometimes one crew has the upper hand than the other.
So that's the rumors behind the scenes.
Okay.
Okay.
Y'all clearly are willing to take this further than my journalistic context.
No, but for real, man.
It's not funny.
So, of course, there's nothing funny about this.
I absolutely love Torrey Lane's.
But as far as all of these facts that we have.
Cite your sources.
No, I'm letting it go.
He was feeding the jail.
What the fuck, yo?
The Mexicans did like that.
They didn't like
everybody ate.
It's going to cause a race war in there.
That's what they're saying, man.
Like, there's a lot of news coming out.
But who said that outside of WAC 100?
Niggas from the prison.
I saw WAC-100 and I seen it.
But
that's enough to.
Sources say.
So it's mad people listening to this.
That's what I was trying.
Hello.
Niggas called them from the jail.
They interviewed niggas that was there.
That's it.
You need more people.
What's up,
yo?
He ducked right.
Yo, I was right there.
Are you acting like niggas from jail don't get the news first before us?
Holy shit.
Get the fuck out of here.
Niggas from jail is a lot of shit that happened.
Okay.
You know that.
You know better than that.
So, why would they stab Tori?
I'm not going to think it's conspiracy shit what they're saying.
I'm from the school of,
I don't know.
Right.
It's all a legend.
I have no idea why none of this happened.
I don't know who did it.
I don't know how many times.
I know when somebody gets hurt bad enough and blood is coming out that it becomes a matter of liability.
I know we start talking about who's responsible, who got what insurance, whose family knows what, how important it is.
There's too many factors in play
for me to feel comfortable saying,
all right, I just spoke to Hombre.
I just, yo, Hombre just called.
He said,
he said,
and, and, and, and,
look at that nigger.
Also,
I've been stabbed before.
As far as having two collapsed lungs
and then speaking an hour later.
Yeah, it's different.
That sounds
difficult to do.
Now, listen, Tori did make fucking,
what's my song you made?
What's the
fucking song confused with the Drake song?
Not one dance.
What's the fucking Tori song?
What's the fast dancing Tori song?
The one he did off the Drake Flip controller.
No, he got his own.
Damn, that's going to bother me.
But anyway, listen, Tori made Playboy, but no,
that's a tall task.
That's a tall task.
It's medical professionals that like
are questioning it.
No, they're not questioning it.
They said it's bullshit.
They said bullshit.
That can't happen.
You can't have no questioning.
You're not getting on a breathing apparatus and then being taken off.
But that's publicists.
It could be publicists.
Yeah, it could be public.
It also could be,
how do I say this?
There might be an opportunity there to have some good things happen for you.
It sounds more dramatic than it was.
Yeah, exactly.
Better facility, maybe cut some time.
All the things you might be thinking.
That's why I just want to say, we know he was stabbed.
They say he got stabbed 14 times.
I have no idea how many times he was stabbed.
For me, it's been about the conversation people are having about it.
It's disgusting.
I kind of don't like it.
And let me be clear: I'm not a Tori Lanes fan.
And I've obviously been very supportive of Meg and the whole situation.
But what I find frustrating is the same thing.
Are you a Meg music fan?
No.
She's a Meg fan.
She's a woman.
I'm a Meg person.
She's a Megs person fan.
I know her.
So I'm saying,
I like her.
I like her as a person.
one, and two.
Oh, please.
You said you knew Charlamagne.
They've been shooting at you all weekend.
Shut up.
Everybody keeps saying he's shooting.
I don't think he's shooting at me.
Yeah, you told me he was good friends with him.
He's been getting shot at before days ago.
Yeah, he's shooting at him.
I can't listen to y'all with this.
I'm good friends with him.
But my point is, for me,
Charlamagne cleaned him up.
He really did him.
Charlamagne cleaned him up.
He ain't cleaned him up.
About what?
Charlamagne got him together.
I missed it.
Because it did happen.
Because it did happen.
He was so much better.
I don't like Betsy.
No, no, I'm going to be best.
I'm going to play it.
Let's play it after we finish up.
I'll make it.
We can have that.
You know, Meg personally.
Yeah, we're not homies, but I know well enough to, and I supported her during the situation.
And what I say is, I.
You DM'd her.
No, no, no.
I cover.
Anything you need.
Nah.
Nah.
Your bag is different.
I don't know.
Anything you need while you're going through a hard time.
I'm here for you.
You want to do it?
No.
Yeah,
No, dude.
Anyway, that's a whole other position.
But
my point is,
I supported Meg's position.
I thought it was important to defend her given what happened.
Okay.
And I thought that accountability for Tori was important.
Where I take issue is
if you're asking for Tori to be held accountable, and for those people, that meant prison.
You can't then be cheering that he gets stabbed in prison.
Cheering for someone getting getting potentially almost murdered is not dope.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's fucked up.
But if you don't.
I guess what I'm saying is, if he didn't go to prison, you feel like he got off scot-free and then somebody stabbed him.
I can see you feeling like, all right, he got what he did.
But I'm saying he went to prison.
What else do you want him?
Like, he got.
10 years.
That should be the end of it.
So we shouldn't be out there celebrating, especially celebrating.
I don't celebrate anybody getting stabbed in prison, but especially in this case.
And it's the same people that are calling for justice that are also celebrating him getting stabbed.
I don't think that's okay.
That's all I'm saying.
So whether you like Tori personally or not, whether you agree with the case or not, however you feel about what happened with him and Meg, regardless of that, you still shouldn't be out here celebrating somebody getting stabbed in a prison yard.
That's all I'm saying.
I agree.
And I hated that conversation that was happening on the internet.
Cuz
we always talk about it and leave her out.
That's an important part.
Yeah.
The
Meg and Tory.
Sure.
All right, forget it.
Sure.
But nobody was saying that on a lot.
Everybody was talking.
People were even saying, oh, this is Meg's fault.
She did this to him and now now he's getting stabbed up.
All that conversation is so stupid.
It's all stupid.
Yeah, I don't care.
Yeah, I can't.
Yeah,
I hated it.
That's not my ministry.
Completely checked out of that.
Yeah.
I would like Fatori to be okay the same way.
Shout out to him.
I hope that Meg was okay.
I would like them both to just be okay.
And that's my position on that.
Same.
14 times is a lot of times to be stabbed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or cut or anything.
Anything.
Any interaction with a knife.
Word.
And the nigga stabbing them must have held the Guinness Book of World Records for being able to stab that many times.
You got to go stabbed by multiple niggas.
And, nigga, you fighting.
That's three.
Take much.
That's true.
Listen, listen, buddy.
That's why
I obey every law.
Everything you say, I believe you, brother.
Like, that's just all the more reason why I try my best.
Stay out, bro.
It's unfortunate.
Oh, that's fucking crazy, nigga.
Back when I thought I was tough running around, Jersey City niggas was like, yo, in Hudson County, they pricking niggas with HIV needles if you're not down with gang.
I said, wait, you're doing what?
Obeying the law.
It's very easy.
It's the easiest thing in the world.
Don't jaywalk.
Just give me 10 minutes.
Yeah, nah, I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Do what everybody say.
Oh, my God.
Going to the studio.
I ain't got to see you niggas.
Fuck that.
That first breakfast plate you get at six in the morning will let you know
if you like food, stay out of there, man.
Stay out of there.
I'm cool.
Anyway.
Rubbery egg.
Prayers for Tori, man.
Tori, we love you.
We love you.
We hope you are well.
It's just an unfortunate story.
Indeed.
A lot of unfortunate stories.
One more unfortunate story, real quick.
I just want to say a rest in peace to LGP Quad.
Yeah.
Brother from Philly.
Yeah, man.
Young cat, man.
Real, real dope rapper.
Real positive energy.
I won't call him a kid, but
real cool young brother.
He was murdered on Sunday on Mother's Day.
That's awful.
Terrible.
He was setting up
actually about a block and a half from where I grew up.
They was outside and he had his chain on some guys.
Guys came out, ski mask.
tried to rob him of his chain.
What I'm hearing is that
there's always a struggle over over those kinds of things.
And they shot him in the chest.
And
he died at the hospital.
And
he just had so much promise.
You know what I mean?
He was so, you know what I mean?
He's super teletic.
I had just talked to him a couple weeks earlier.
That was a DM.
And I had said to him, like, because we DM back and forth, and I was like, yo, let me know how I can support you.
He's like, I got a new album coming out.
I'm excited about it.
Can you just repost, spread the word?
And when something drops, maybe put on the pot.
You know, that kind of thing.
And he was just so excited about what was up next for him.
And he had no idea that two, three weeks later
he would be gone over this foolishness man i'm just i'm i'm at a point maybe this is getting older but i'm just tired of hearing the same story not just about young rappers but just young black men everywhere we're just dying over nothing nothing man over a physical item right right right and i don't want to blame him or anybody you know for you know because i've seen same thing happen uh
with um
pnb rock
you know where you know people try to rob you and there's a you know
you have a right to keep your shit but i also want brothers to understand that this shit is not worth as much as their lives.
And all of us got to do better.
All of us got to do better.
All of us got to do something to stop all this.
That's it.
So rest in peace to you.
Rest in peace.
Super duper talented, man.
I'm sad to see that that one's out.
Yeah, there we go.
Rest in peace there, young man.
Rest in peace to Bishop Legante.
Rest in peace to anybody that lost somebody recently out there if you're listening.
Wish
Miss Cash Way,
you blight my mind.
Yes, sir.
I feel like
you
blow my mind.
I say
I was free
Mike check one two one two mic check one two one two one two
dingo
I was watching um
I was watching uh
get up the sports show on ESPN
last week and I think Jay Will or somebody started talking about how Stephen A did law and order and I know Stephen A is trying to get his acting chops off right and I know he's trying to run for president
that's a lot that's two big things to try to get done he got his hundred million dollars that's true and we still don't know where max kellerman is but so as somebody that's a supporter of stephen a
The other day I was like, man, I ain't doing shit in the crib.
Let me go ahead and fucking turn on Law Law and Order so I can see them murder fucking Stephen A.
Smith because he's a sports agent.
Like in the show, he's a sports agent of a star athlete who's caught up in the grips with his friends.
So it's very similar to things that you heard him say in real life on the show.
Did he body?
Man, sure enough, I cut on the Law and Order.
He's the first scene that comes on.
Where he's telling the sports star that you ain't LeBron, you ain't KD, you're a grinder, you can't afford to have 11 people on your staff.
You You're fucking this up.
Fire everybody or I'm out of here.
Opens up like that, hard.
It's like, oh, shit, they wowing right now.
So I walk to go get my Uber Eats that came because I had ordered a little meal.
I go get my Uber Eats and I come back.
As God would have it, Stephen A is dead on the ground.
Hey, they killed Stephen A in 3.3 minutes at the front of this show.
He laying in Sinjabar.
Oh, man.
You talking about they going to fire me?
They're going to fire you.
Oh, my God.
They ended the shit out of Stephen A.
Shout out to Stephen A, but black people, we just died so fast in these shows.
Would you do that?
Would you do like a walk on, like, on a drama?
Yeah, 100%.
What would you do?
Especially if I'm a fan of the drama.
Okay.
Like Law and Order.
Damn, what's the other one that starts with a fucking sequence?
Criminal Minds.
Oh, that'd be a good one.
Criminal Minds.
Yeah.
What else?
I watch all these shits, so yeah.
Mel, can you pull them into one?
I'm still trying to get myself in this this shit.
I mean, you got you were a star in a lifetime dream,
still trying to get on NBC, it's been a struggle, ABC, you know, CBS.
I mean, I got priorities, you know, CW
CW.
I don't even think that exists anymore.
Yeah, but
CW stop, yo.
They came from out to
space
CW, what is wrong with y'all, bro?
Is that channel 11?
Yes.
Yeah.
They still got UPN?
UPN 9 or something?
What was the first?
First was WB, right?
No, first was Channel 9.
First was WP.
That's what we.
It was just picks.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
That's hilarious, y'all.
Man, you got this, man.
Trust me.
Don't let them niggas discourage you.
I'm not sure.
I believe it, Belle's Down.
You're going to be on Dancing with the Fried Green Tomatoes Part Two.
Dancing with the Peoples or some shit like that.
Some bullshit spin over Lifestyle Go
Dancing with them.
Dancing with friends.
Yeah, Melissa Ford.
Dancing with them.
Yo.
Yo.
She got it.
But she do good in the movies that she's in.
I think so.
She did.
Thank you.
Did you see the last joint that you saw?
I'm about to buy it today.
It was solid.
It was solid.
I appreciate that, you guys.
Thanks for the you get PC off of that if you buy it.
What's that?
Do you get any money on that?
No.
Yo.
Or you get the one-time fee.
Yo, every other week I get a male is so white segment as I watch back the pod.
Like, you just don't put us in the greatest position to win.
Let me.
What is it called?
Is that
take them off the streets?
Clean up the colours.
I will learn it, okay?
I will learn it.
You've been a whole practice?
No.
No, no.
I'm trying to get that, like, that fan dance down.
I'm sorry?
Like that, I couldn't remember to watch it.
No, don't say say nothing don't say that
new like country dance that everybody's doing with the fans and
how we go
they're talking to you about black
it is it is so jaboo she was a fairy that
shut up
this was mel's description of the boots on the ground crazy with the fans oh that's what she was describing yes It just sounded so different when you said it.
Shut the fuck up.
No, it might be a funny.
I didn't place it.
The first thing I said, the dance with the fans.
What?
I know what she was talking about.
I didn't know that.
You didn't, he knew what I was talking about.
You know, do you know any of the moves yet, ma'am?
No, I do not.
Okay, but I am.
You're gonna get the electric slide.
You're probably not gonna get none of the other new dance crazy.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
You know, I'm planning a trip to Atlanta soon.
My girlfriend does the shit.
She's gonna try and teach me.
Run to Atlanta just to.
Oh.
I'm hoping for the best.
Let's go, man.
I think you got it on the control.
You got some more press to do.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
Another movie I got coming up for.
Girl, girl.
Anyway.
Has she admitted it yet?
No.
Oh.
And she won't, nor am I trying to get her to admit to anything.
Can I ask a question real quick?
What's up?
Wasn't there supposed to be a cook-off happening this pod?
No, it was next Tuesday.
Oh, well, she thought she was losing her job, so
she had to make sure she throws something out there so y'all can look forward to.
Just in case I leave, let me provide y'all with food.
No, Mel, get your ass in the middle of the day.
No, no, not that.
Not like that.
Man, we've been waiting for Mac.
Come on.
But here's the thing: I bought better than that.
I bought everything.
I'm getting ready to do it.
And I took video.
Are you a breakfast maker?
Yes.
You took video of what?
I took video of everything
of the ingredients that I bought.
Getting ready.
Right.
She wasn't ready.
I got the macaroni noodles.
I got the pans.
Which noodles?
Let's see.
Let us see.
The fucking elbows.
Which elbows?
The macaroni elbows.
There's a couple of them.
You guys.
Yeah, a lot of people.
Okay, all right.
It's okay.
Anywho,
it's coming.
This is why she'd be a whole white shit, because every time we try to talk to her about her and bring her back to the black side, you stop us mid-joint.
You always do that, and she's going to stay white.
Well, we've done our part in terms of adding suspense to the mythical mac and cheese.
Just one clarify.
I've waited three years.
It's never happened.
Just one clarifying question.
You went to Supermarket yesterday?
For next Tuesday?
I just, I have a really, I have a really
busy week, so I decided to just kind of get it out of the way.
Sure, I exoled.
Yes.
You can just bring Denzel with you.
Sal.
I'll fuck on that.
What else needs our full attention?
I can tell you something that needs our full attention.
The draft?
Yes.
I knew he was going to do that.
You did?
That's all I got left.
We back.
Everybody thought the Sixes was done.
Who we?
We who?
This nigga's got a third pick up.
The third pick?
Fourth pick?
The fourth pick.
The third pick.
I got the number one pick like a 70,000 times.
This shit ain't really.
Why are you bringing
shit?
You said we traded it up for the number one people.
We back.
That's what I'm saying.
Who is doing the grained job?
That's the old.
The whole Sixes fan.
Who is we?
That's the old administration.
Markel Fultz.
You can pick everybody.
Ben Simmons.
What else you got?
Will Chamberlain, Charles Barkley.
I just love this.
Paul George would be getting.
He started betting, well, you know, our bet, that the Sixers would have a better record.
And now we are
happy as can be over their lottery position.
Third pick.
When you have
some consolation prize,
Chloe Maxie got McCain over there, Paul George, PG.
It was an injury season.
This happened to the Spurs,
where Dave Robbins was injured for a year.
They get Tim Duncan, and they created dynasty.
They had had the first pick, though.
I know, but sometimes the third pick turns out pretty good.
A guy named Michael Jordan, third pick.
That's a fact.
Sure.
That's a fact.
I mean, the Dwayne Wade draft, third pick, right?
We've got a lot of, the 03 draft, there's a lot of great third picks.
But the point is, Ace Bailey, I think, is who we're going to get.
And I think he's a solid player out of Rutgers.
But the point is, the point is the Sixers.
are in a position now to rebuild and hopefully maybe even trade something.
And what Jay Williams said today, which I agree with, is the Mavericks, who I really want to get to, should consider trading their number one pick
to Milwaukee.
To Milwaukee
or to the Sixers to try to get a Tyrese Maxi.
Because if you get a Tyrese Maxie and the number three pick or something like that, you could rebuild.
I support that choice.
But the real question I have is, how the fuck do the Mavericks keep getting a number one pick when there's a white superstar on the table?
Is this their first time getting a number one?
First time getting a number pick.
I mean a lottery pick, an elite lottery pick.
A lottery pick.
When I say number one, I mean like lottery pick, pick, not the overall number one.
Nigga, they just traded.
In the last couple years, they've had blockbuster trades.
There have been some conspiracy theories.
I'm just floating.
I'm just floating a conspiracy theory.
Just a percentage of them winning the lottery pick.
One percent.
It happens.
Yeah.
I don't think it's a conspiracy, but I'm just floating.
There's a lot of people.
Sometimes it be a duck when it looks and quack like one.
Sometimes it really.
Burrs keep getting top picks.
Mavericks keep getting top picks.
I don't know.
What's the conspiracy for the person that watches basketball?
people he says it's fixed people have been saying that the lottery has been fixed since the Patrick Ewan draft of 85 people have been saying that the league decides where players go I don't believe that but it's been a prevalent theory and the fact that the Mavs got another big pick is interesting I don't think it's I think it's just coincidence and good luck but it's fixed I think it's fixed too and the conspiracy really is because Luca just went to the Lakers Yo, we're going to trade y'all star over here.
This is our biggest
conspiracy theories.
There's the conspiracy theory theory right here.
And we'll look y'all out on the flip side.
We got you.
On your Cooper flag.
And that was on the anniversary of where the conspiracy, I want to say, started, which is us with Patrick Ewing.
There's fucking...
The Magic was involved.
The Shack and Pitchers.
The Magic got hella lucky.
Yeah, Spurs got hella lucky with some Burburts.
Spurs got super lucky.
They were 41 and 41 that year.
No, they were worse than that, but they weren't great.
No, they missed the playoffs for like one game when they were they played.
No, they're bad.
They're bad.
You're right.
Okay.
So, that's right, because Dave Robinson didn't play.
You're absolutely right.
It was the Magic and Dispersed.
I'm sorry.
I'm confusing the Magic and Dispersed, right?
The Magic.
We're 41 and 41 in Catapult.
Cleveland and 03 with LeBron.
Yeah.
Derek Rose to Chicago.
Zion to New Orleans while the league owned New Orleans.
Yeah.
There's been a few.
The Anthony Bennett Cleveland pick.
Cleveland's gotten the number one in mad times.
Wiggins,
what's up there?
And they're showing how in the last
eight years, the team with the worst record has not finished in like the top with a top pick.
I feel like they're almost trying to punish teams for tanking too much after post-process.
That's the whole point of the lottery.
Right.
But I mean, teams were still, the Sixers did it even knowing we weren't guaranteed one.
Now it seems like having the worst record, you almost not going to get it.
Niggas did all that for Ben Simmons.
Bums.
Yo, the process in hindsight, y'all are sick.
The process in hindsight is one of the nastiest things in sports.
Why though?
With the Jason Tim.
We were four bounces away.
The process didn't necessarily.
The process works.
Why Mark Tatum?
Tatum has not really worked.
They traded out of Jason Tatum.
That one hurt.
The Nerlins-Noel pick.
The Ben Simmons pick and how that turned out.
But that one.
And Embiid's injury.
So the process, you're looking at five, six draft picks that were supposed to, you know what they were supposed to do.
And they all, it's like a curse.
It's like the high five curse or the three company curse.
You think that's reflective of the process?
Or just their bum ass and that's bum ass GMs.
Well, some people call it karmic retribution.
All of that's the process.
You trying, y'all were adamant and vocal about trying to lose for years and just kept telling your fan base, trust the process.
We got you.
So now this is what happened with each player that you picked in those five, six years.
It looks the way is all I'm saying.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, that's not, to Ish's point, that's not a referendum on the process.
If the Sixers had better GMs, if we had Danny Ainge,
we'd be winning our fifth, fifth ring right now.
That's not replying to the karmic retribution part of it.
No, the karmic retribution party go pick up stars.
I don't believe that.
We get James Harton.
We go get Paul George.
We're
making moves to telling people to trust the process.
I'll give you an example.
Nothing worked.
We traded Drew Holiday.
Yep.
Which got us the right to draft Michael Carter Williams, and we already had a pick to get Nerlis Noel.
It's nasty.
Right.
Do you know who went number 15 in that draft a guy named yannis out at the kumpo now nobody knew the yannis gonna be yannis why he went 15 but we could have gotten but but even when y'all picked up um michael carter williams He won rookie of the year.
Y'all traded the nigga like a
two layer.
He couldn't play, though.
I mean, it was the right choice, if you think about it.
That nigga won rookie of the year, bro.
And you ain't never.
That's what started to happen.
Niggas start playing too good, and you got to get out of here because you fucking up the real process of tanking.
Nah, why did they?
That was happening, too.
Yo, what you doing?
Nope, get him out of here.
Michael Kirtwilliams works at Sunglass Hut now.
This is a lot of focus on a lottery team.
I'm not talking about the lottery team.
I'm talking about the lottery, the lottery.
The question is: is the NBA team?
Get back to that.
Not a lottery team.
The lottery.
I don't think the NBA team.
Yo, the Knicks have been good for like two weeks, and y'all just, you know what?
Talking about Karmic Retribution.
But they built that team the right way.
They did.
They did.
They did.
Can't nobody say nothing to me about the Knicks, dog.
I was there watching Chris Dudley as a starter.
Like, if I just just tell you all of the people I've watched throughout the year, you can't say nothing to me about what's going on.
Now, you crazy?
Yeah, I don't fuck with them.
But they.
I was there for Vin Baker.
No, they did it too.
Like, watched Vin Baker.
Super watched Vin Baker.
Even Jerome James.
Yo, they took their number two pick that they drafted and sent his ass to Toronto for a pivotal piece of the team.
Like, they doing it the right way.
I commend them for what they're doing.
I don't fuck with them, but.
I ain't mad at them.
I hate them,
but I ain't mad at them for their journey and getting there.
Golden State did it the right way.
They kept drafting elite players.
Yes, they did.
Just to me, the Sixers and other teams that lose on purpose,
I'm okay with that.
But what these other teams have shown us is that
I'll just say it ain't the only way because there's no guarantee.
I mean, Boston Celtics are a good example of that.
They rebuilt without ever being as bad as the Sixers were because they had a better GM.
They finessed us
out of Jason Tatum.
I mean, they didn't finess out of Jason Tatum, but they finessed us into another.
No, I mean, they already had number one pick.
Yeah, they had the one.
Yeah, they just swapped.
Again, this is just a lot of focus on lottery.
What about Boston?
You know what?
We don't.
Like, it's a lot of losers.
You know what?
I'll move on from that.
Then how about the other NBA piece of news, which is that Michael Jordan, to me, the most underwhelming piece of news.
Michael Jordan is now going to be doing NBA coverage again.
I love it.
Me too.
I can't wait.
I love it.
They're bringing the theme song back, right?
Damn, damn, damn.
That would be fine.
You damn near have to.
You have to.
They better.
What's your thoughts on that, Mark?
Sounds like a good idea, right?
Not to me.
I think it sounds like a great idea.
I mean, Michael Jordan.
If Michael Jordan were to do it, you can't say no.
I just don't think he's going to be good at it.
I remember when Dr.
J was doing NBA coverage.
He was terrible at it.
Michael Jordan is not a good talker.
Horrible.
And he's the most reserved person in sport.
The reason he's a superstar is he doesn't say anything about anybody in public.
So I'm not sure he's going to be as provocative as we think.
If he is, it's going to slip out.
No, I think it's going to be a lot.
Some hate going through that.
I think you're wrong.
I think the hate is going to be.
I think you're wrong.
I think Michael Jordan is going to be like, yo, but the guy ain't shit, really.
He's talking about like, yo, you think so?
What?
We saw Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan always fucked with these niggas.
They had him as a judge for the dunk contest of the all-star game, and it was some fire shit.
Five,
six, yeah, that's it.
He gave him nothing higher than a six.
Yo, dumping.
Like, just sitting here hating, just the look on his face.
I want to see.
Yes, get up here and hate on this shit because I know you don't like the game today.
I would love to see it.
I want to hear him talk about
Malone and Barkley get up to him.
I want to hear Michael Jordan talk about
the Pacers shooting, I mean, excuse me, the Celtics shooting 45-3s.
See, and I want to hear Michael Jordan's son talk about the Celtics shooting 45 threes.
Lot on Coke.
He'll talk about it here.
Michael Jordan.
I don't get it.
All right.
I just think
I think Michael Jordan is going to come in there, fuck around, be off that.
What?
Easy Jesus?
No,
he got his tequila.
That nigga be drunk.
That nigga like that.
That's a tequila drinker right there.
You know, the real reason they lost because he ain't shit.
Like, yo,
my eyes yellow.
Yeah.
Get the talking.
What?
That deep ass voice, he talks mad slow.
This is going to be comedy.
It is.
I don't think it's going to be good.
They didn't say what he's getting paid, right?
No.
Nah.
A lot.
That's what I want to know.
You think it's a lot?
Yes.
Yeah, what?
Well, yeah.
For me to leave my NASCAR team,
me leave my billions to come sit up on this dusty ass podium, y'all are going to pay me.
I guess it's a one.
Like, is there.
Michael don't really need money as far as we know.
So when you get to that level of buddy, do they still have to make like a stupid offer for you to do?
I got to pay for my time.
How much is that worth?
Depend on the person.
I'm asking, how much do you think Michael Jordan's time is worth?
More than Charles in there.
Oh, okay, yeah.
And they getting a nice bag.
Maybe.
Is it worth Morris Charles now?
Charles is so good.
Charles is great.
Shaq is great.
We're talking about Charles with 20 years versus Michael Jordan today.
They gave Tom Brady $30 million, my nigga.
That is true.
Tom Brady's good, though.
No, he's not.
And he does not have any experience.
I just assumed he was good.
No, he's not.
He's stale.
Really?
I don't like football, but they gave him 30 million out the gate.
Yeah.
Is he a draw then?
Does he bring an audience?
Yes.
Is that what?
Okay.
Yes.
So it's like he could be.
I don't think it really matters if Tom Brady is good or not.
All right, so just to answer your question, the theme song is returning.
Yes.
Yes.
Michael Jordan is joined as a special commentator.
I don't know if that means he's going to be sitting on the panel the entire time.
This thing's going to do occasional.
Special means he's going to pop in just to say, niggas is ass.
Yeah.
That's all he's going to take and go back home.
And the other commentators, which I think this will be fire, the other commentators are Jamal Crawford, Carmelo Anthony, Reggie Miller.
Reggie's a pro.
That's great.
Jamal is
great.
He's very good.
Jamal has gotten very good as of late.
And I'm excited to see Carmel Anthony.
I don't know about the other two.
I don't think.
I'm not the biggest Reggie commentating for.
Reggie's cool.
He needs to be paired up with somebody.
Yeah.
But he's good for comedy.
I don't see the comedy.
Yeah, I was going to say, where's the personality in there?
Like, who's going to shoot off at the moment?
Mellow.
I mean, I'm sorry, not that.
Who's gonna shoot off at the mouth mellow hopefully mellow is okay
and we got mike
that's to be determined
i'm telling you i think mike gonna disappoint y'all i hope not i think it's gonna be like the bobcats all over again yeah maybe so the bobcats
a study shows that k is the most emotionally triggering text you can send a person that's a fact no it's not you got something else yeah we need to talk oh
that's the one that's the one You feel that shit in your definitely for y'all.
Spine.
That's not worse than K.
K triggers a different emotion.
That's not worse.
What's a different emotion?
What do K do to y'all?
K is so fucking dismissive.
Yep.
K is a lot of things.
It is a lot of things, but I think that dismissive is extremely high on the list.
Like, imagine you wrote an entire text to somebody and it's like, you know, well thought out and whatever, and they just hit you back with K.
Not even just K.
Period.
Oh, see, I hate the thumbs up when I get that.
Same shit.
They're synonymous.
The thumbs up is meant to do the same thing.
The synonym.
They're not the best.
They're both synonymous.
You couldn't do that before.
I did.
So that's like the new version of it.
See, I be writing K all the time.
I don't be meaning shit.
Nah.
Wait, I just been pissing motherfuckers off.
Yeah.
No, we didn't just talk.
And I think it depends on what it's in response to.
But yeah, K is some bullshit.
When they write you one of them books,
so my wife writes, I miss you when I write K.
You don't do that.
You know what I mean?
I'm just joking.
Stop it.
I'm just joking.
I wouldn't do that.
There's There's no point in the day that a K is okay.
No.
Really?
No, no.
There's no point in the day.
They can get you with the y'all outside.
K.
Yeah, that's how I'm at all sorts.
If you could text K, you can text okay.
No.
No.
It's hard.
Y'all outside.
K?
No, dog.
I'm not one of your little friends in the street, dog.
Yes, you are.
What if it's Ish?
He is one of your little friends in the street.
Ish is a man.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
So if, like, you know, Ish says I'm down.
Yeah, he's a little homie.
He's smaller now.
He's smaller now.
Yeah, you might be a little homie now.
It's because you lost some weight.
But anyway, he shouldn't be saying K to me.
No man should be saying K to me.
See, I think it sounds less macho for sure.
Like sounds like a bitch.
That's another word to put.
I shouldn't use that word, sorry.
Right.
But I'm just saying, like, that's why I don't use K.
Like, if you sent me a note, I would be like, K.
Not because it feels like I'm in this or nothing, just because it feels like I shouldn't be saying that to you.
It feels like something your lady should be saying to you.
But it'll trigger me.
My girl know better to say it.
if she say k to me that's just a way of letting me know that it's on yeah it's on all right
that thumbs up shit and a good morning or something with with no emojis just on some dry good morning yo morning gm who the fuck are you talking to morning somebody yeah good morning that comes with emojis
i'm big on how you start how we start the day that niggas is just crazy
you can't start my day with no bullshit
that's too dramatic so So what do you want?
You want like good morning with like a sunflower?
Baby, something.
Something warm.
Hey, if y'all shut your stupid asses up.
Something that speaks to the quality of this relationship.
Put some sugar on it.
Yeah.
Good morning.
Good morning, king.
My babe.
My king, my love, my earth, my all, my everything.
My oxygen.
Some emoji.
My reason for living.
Well, watch your mouth.
Watch your mouth.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
You said all that shit out the niggas.
Who the fuck am I saying that shit too, right?
When you are in a relationship, you send that?
I am so ridiculously affectionate.
I'm such a kitten.
Yup.
Yup.
My king, my oxygen, my reason for living.
Yes, absolutely.
You did that for homeboy birthday last week.
It is my
king.
I mean, he has someone.
But happy birthday to my king.
My love, my everything.
I think I just said, you know, Mia Moore.
There you go.
Or some shit like that.
You said Mia Moore?
Eh.
There They're gonna catch her.
Look, eh.
She's just affectionate.
She shows a lot of love.
The kitten is showing.
Pause.
That's going wrong.
Pause, crazy.
You get involved in a lawsuit each time.
The kitty is showing.
The kitten is showing.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't play that case.
We need to talk.
It's still the worst.
That's a different level of stress.
It's not the worst.
That shit makes my heart beat fast.
Yeah, I don't want to, yeah.
Makes you want to not talk.
Yeah.
Just just text me what you got to say.
Because it ain't never nothing good.
Never.
Pull up.
Yeah, you don't see the memes.
Nigga be watering the grass.
His girl be like, yo, we need to talk.
Next scene, that nigga be up here with the water up on his head.
He's still
in a swimming pool.
He ain't stopping that.
If I want to talk, I'm good.
Fuck that.
No, we need to talk.
We'll give you the straight BGs.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know if it has the same effect on us.
What you mean?
Because we don't never want to talk.
Niggas don't get no sad kids.
It's never happened before.
So, what kind of text can a dude send you that would get you anxious?
No.
Other than
silent.
No, it's funny.
No, it's funny.
You got to leave.
Silent.
Get your
girl.
It's been four days.
Get your shit.
Get your shit.
Get your hat and coat.
And leave.
Let's talk shit.
Uber's outside.
That's funny.
No, silence.
That's what gives me anxiety.
Like when you send something, you get nothing?
Yeah.
Yeah, something like that.
How long?
It depends.
Depends if there was like a flow of conversation going.
It just, it depends.
Because I understand people are busy and you can't.
I don't expect like
weird or annoying.
Leave her alone.
Stop it.
I'm just asking you how long we're going to be here.
We don't matter if we're here.
She's just annoying.
You know what?
We don't matter if we're here.
Here's the thing is: I am so easy, breezy, beautiful cover girl when I'm like in a relationship.
I don't stress you out.
I am not like just on you all the time where I need constant attention and constant this and constant that.
That's not me.
I'm busy.
So you believe in God.
I'm busy.
So what were you about to say about understanding how someone else is busy?
I understand that, you know, that you're busy, you know, so it's just like I'm not expecting like an immediate response.
Maybe if there's some emergency kind of like, you know, aspect to the text, but other than that, like, go on about your day.
But if, I don't know, I text you in the morning morning and I don't hear from you till like seven o'clock, I'm like, yo,
what the fuck?
That is a lot.
Thank you.
And then also,
212 hours.
Also, also, in the dating, this is a conversation that's come up online.
So, male, what happened, Mel is
when you have expressed, two people have expressed interest in each other and their synergy and whatever else, what is the expectation of communicating every single day?
Synergy, too.
Bitches be missing
synergy.
That's a drink.
That's rap ball cousin.
Fuck you talking about it.
What are the expectations as far as speaking every day?
Yeah.
Yes, you should.
I've never been
in somebody and I ain't talking to them every day.
That is exactly my thinking.
And that's what I judge
whether or not I'm continuing.
What do you do?
Don't listen to Mark.
Yeah, don't listen to Mark.
I am going to listen to Mark.
Don't listen to Mark.
Do you believe that?
I am because he's sensible and that makes sense to me.
Okay, hold on.
Stop it.
Do you believe in giving space?
Do you believe in that?
Why do you need space in the beginning?
Like, you know, when we're starting to talk, why do you need space for?
That's when you need the space.
You need the time out.
Yo, you're women.
Why do you need space when we're just starting to talk?
But then, on the other hand, you said,
I don't really need the communication like that.
I know niggas is busy.
No, space is different.
Than when we first start talking?
Well, okay, okay.
I basically said that we have started talking.
There's synergy established.
You like me.
I like you.
I don't get the gaps.
Do you text me?
I don't fucking get it.
If you like somebody,
I'm not talking about like day one, day two, day three.
Like, I'm not talking about that.
Like, no.
Y'all been on some dates, y'all starting to kick it.
Yeah, you're kicking it.
But are you?
You're probably.
I at least send you a hello.
I might not want to talk all day.
I have a whole conversation, but I'll probably send you something.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I ain't never went 48.
We're talking pre-sex or post-sex.
And how many yo-hoes you got?
Well, I said we talked.
Yo, y'all niggas be up here if y'all.
Y'all cool.
All right.
We don't exclusively be able to.
I just like you.
But no, but here's the thing.
If we like each other, how far do you talk to somebody if you if y'all like each other, whatever?
How about y'all talking?
But if I just like you,
I also like her and her and her.
Yeah, see, here's the thing:
you said synergy.
I thought you meant like that's kind of becoming your
one text in a day.
I know, yeah, but she's a little bit more entertaining right now.
Maybe I'm
left that you can't even say nothing.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, y'all.
Let's hug that shit off, please.
Maybe I'm just speaking from the perspective of somebody who is looking for some level of like maturity.
You know what I'm saying?
And somebody
Sorry.
Don't play it.
Don't play it.
What the fuck is that?
And somebody who is actually looking for something.
If that's not what you're looking for, cool, no problem.
But I'm looking to build upon, you know.
You're dating with intention.
I'm dating.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
I'm dating with intention.
And if I do not get the feeling that you are there, by all means, go with God.
Don't let the door hit you on the fucking fucking way out.
Here you go, man.
Are you a- So when do you express that to them?
When I start to see, when I start to see a pattern and patterns show up very, very quickly, I will assess it very quickly.
I mean, I'm when you express to them, hey, I'm dating with you,
thank you, thank you, man, please.
God damn.
What?
Got you.
I'm just, y'all niggas just.
What?
No, no, no.
Where's the frustration?
I'm not fucking.
Mr.
Married Man of 17 years who has not been in the dating game whatsoever.
No, I'm.
You got me.
I know I did.
I know I fucking did.
And you just at the second time you disrespected me.
But I'm saying, I got you.
You're protecting me.
I was asking you, thank you.
Are you a back-to-back texter?
Meaning, like, do you respond instantly when a nigga texts?
Because that can be an issue.
No, I mean, it that's an issue?
Yes.
It depends.
If we're having a conversation, like on text.
If we're having a conversation on text and whatever he said or I said warrants a response,
then yes, but then not
always.
You guys,
we did it.
We did it.
Oh, we can continue on Patreon.
We did it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Or later, but let's just give it a little breathing room.
Yeah, just let it breathe for a little bit.
Let's check the temperature of the room.
Okay.
Fucking,
so the puff trial is still going on.
We talked about it earlier, but I want to just make it very clear that I am not an expert.
on any of the charges.
I'm not a legal expert.
I don't know nothing about, you know what I mean?
Don't take my word as fact.
I don't know exactly what sex trafficking is.
I feel like that should be described at some point.
Defined.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I have a definition of sex trafficking from
the Office of Victims of Crime.
It's a government office.
They break it down in regular English.
Is it different in the feds as it is in state?
I don't know, but he's a Fed case anyway.
Because most sex trafficking is federal.
Okay, federal definition of sex trafficking.
The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for the purposes of commercial sex act in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion in which the person, or excuse me.
or in which the person induced is under 18.
Okay, so I'm wrong earlier when I say that they haven't addressed sex trafficking then because everything in Cassie's testimony, by that definition, describes sex trafficking.
They break.
If they bought somebody in, if they flew, what the girls are saying, flew it in?
No, if Cassie is saying, yo, I was here because I was afraid of you and this is what you made me do, then that falls under that now.
Well, let me break it down.
They go a little bit further.
Just
they break down the action.
So recruiting.
proactively targeting an individual's vulnerabilities and or grooming
and then you get the child part or befriending a child a child with the intention to abuse using supplying alcohol and or drugs to garner an intimate relationship or support an existing habit harboring isolation confinement and or monitoring of another person's movement
yeah
transporting the unwanted movement and or arranging of travel of another person unwanted unwanted key word there providing the act of giving a person as a commodity to another person
obtaining that's where it gets tricky yeah a couple of these
obtaining forcibly taking something from someone else exchanging something for the ability to control another person
and then soliciting offering something of value in exchange for sex such as housing food clothing travel etc so record deals those are those are the actions and i looked up commercial sex act okay and this is key commercial sex act is defined as any sex act on account of which anything of value is given to or received by any person.
So it breaks it down.
Exchange of value.
The definition emphasizes the exchange of something of value for the sex act, distinguishing it from a non-commercial sexual activity.
So if I pay you for some,
if I buy you some shoes, if I take you shopping, if I take you to the mall and buy you some.
If it's in exchange for that, if it's in exchange for
that's not
uh
tricking yeah yeah that's that's the distinction that's not hoarding it's not that that is true i mean no no no you be tricking into slangs basically if i if i'm if i if i take a girl we go to dinner we have sex and then i buy a pair of shoes the next day that's not a commercial sex no but if i give her sex for the shoes if i buy you some shoes for the sex yes then but then that's a gray area like yo i i was doing this just cuz this is all the shit that they need to remove in this case but that's done a lot though yeah what that's i'm just saying that's that's done a lot yeah but i think they're highlighting the consistency of the act but remember he's not being charged for the commercial sex act it's the combination of having a commercial sex act it's it's it's it's coercion force or fraud to put somebody into a commercial sex act so it's not enough to say i'm fucking you for shoes well this is where it also so they break down force fraud and coercion force physical assault, sexual assault, isolation, and or confinement of another person.
Fraud, false employment offers, sham marriages, lying about work situation,
withholding wages, and or taking legal documentation.
Coercion, threats of violence, threats of arrest slash deportation, debt bondage, and or withholding legal documentation.
A lot of that shit is based on
the immigration shit.
Because, you know, they'll promise they papers, they'll do all of that shit.
So that's where a lot of that is.
Because there's a big, and you talk about law and order.
Like, that's a big thing that would happen on a lot of episodes where the girls would get shipped over.
Or, you know, you got to work to the United States to
do work, to get a big guest worker, or to do child care, and you end up putting out a rubber tug.
Yeah, her rubbing tug, right?
And those kinds of things.
So, it's a lot to prove in this case.
A lot of the stuff that I'm hearing, like, well, I'm reading the transcript of Cassie's the AUSA.
A couple of these things could apply.
More than a couple.
I think a lot of is open to interpretation.
And that's where the jury selection is going to matter a lot.
Mog, I have a question.
So, I just checked the definition out about coercion, which is with force or threats, right?
But persuasion, this persuasion is illegal.
Persuasion is not illegal.
Because persuasion still implies that a person's making their own choice.
Got it.
Coercion is when you're forcing their hand.
You know what I mean?
And in this case, forcing their hand to make them do something that's already illegal, which is the Commercial Sex Act.
So
it's a bunch of things happening at one point.
Yeah, and I don't, again, there needs to be a lot more evidence shown to make that case, but it seems like
setting the stage.
Yeah, they're setting the stage for it, and the legal framework seems to be there for a potential case.
But again, we'll see what happens.
This is going to be the hardest one for him to beat to me.
Did you guys make anything of the daughters leaving the courtroom as the escort was testifying?
No.
That seems like decency process.
Yeah, that was decent.
I thought that, yeah.
Yeah.
Taking the kid, take it, take the daughters out.
And
as the person that I never just saying, oh, damn, I mean, they make some valid points.
I never thought I'd say it.
But Boosie's,
his comments on this have surfaced again.
And a lot of people are like, I get what he's saying.
Comments from the past?
Right after Puff was arrested.
Okay.
And it's making its rounds again.
Yeah.
He said, I feel Diddy's in jail for basically doing what every other famous entertainer has done.
Flew chicks out for threesomes.
He's just freakier.
actually go call we actually going to call women prostitutes who fly in willingly to be with their partners for sex If that's the case if you've been flued out and had sex you should be labeled a prostitute if that's the case and 80% of the women reading this
and Trafficking hell no if you're a celebrity you got a fly pussy in how else are you gonna get the pussy?
You're never in one place Now, when I saw that video, I was pissed off at this nigga like he really got a problem.
But facing life in prison for basically doing what so many other entertainers has done
and
Okay, it's that gray area again.
I don't think it's that gray.
I don't
me either it's it's
what's what
I mean some of that in there is okay
I think he made it a little more broad than what seems to be on trade.
Exactly.
Which when you make it broad like that, it seems like, yeah, he's right.
But if you're talking about actually
coercing people and persuading people with pressure, that's a different conversation than just flying willing participants.
It is irrelevant.
If you're flying a prostitute from Cleveland to New Jersey, yes, prostitution is illegal.
But you, as the nigga that's paying for it, you're not telling.
And she, as the person that's prostituting, ain't telling.
There's nothing that's happening there, not condoning it, not saying it's right.
I am.
Very.
Very.
I don't see anything's wrong with it.
Well, prostitution is against the law.
Yeah, sometimes the law is wrong.
I don't see anything wrong with it.
I'm just saying, I'm just registered.
I don't think
that's part of what we got to say.
That's my stance, too.
But every time I say that on the pod, these niggas think that I'm fucking escorts every week.
So I'm trying to just claim I am a joke.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
You, they're not going to ever say Marcus fucking escorts.
I do not.
And I don't know why they wouldn't say that.
Because I don't.
Because I don't.
Oh, neither do I.
There you are.
Fair.
So,
yeah.
there's nothing wrong with that.
And that's the problem.
But to Ish's point, if you have a certain moral sort of makeup and you think that that's wrong, then you may sit in that jury box and say, just because he's fucking prostitutes, he's already a bad person.
And let me be clear, Puff is a bad person.
He's a piece of shit, but not because of that.
I think that's very different than you ordering a prostitute and then beating her ass and then
shopping and then saying, I'm your man, and then handcuffing her to the bed, and then following her to another state, and then blackballing her, making her.
And then saying you can't put your album out, and then, like, that's very, very different.
Very, very different.
They asked her about albums.
It was like, she signed a 10-album deal.
She put one album out.
And she's like, I, I.
Man, that should have been the first time.
Yeah.
I can't do that.
I got a deal.
I got, that's where my deal is.
So I was never able to put my music out.
Anything else was leaked music, mixtape stuff, but,
and even that could be a form of
recording we spoke about.
Right.
For me, anytime Bootsy talk, yeah, I normally disagree with him.
This was the least outrageous thing he said.
And again, in fairness to Boosie, which I never thought I'd say,
that
interpretation was based on the information we had at the time.
But now that we get more information, it's like, oh, wait, okay, it is more than that.
It is more than that.
And the more information we get, the more we realize it's not what Boosie thinks it is.
What he described, he's right, but what he's describing ain't what's happening.
That's not this.
Yeah, it is.
Well, it's not fully describing it.
Yes.
And omission sometimes is.
It changes everything.
It changes everything.
So he got two counts.
Does anybody know who the unnamed individual is yet?
the jane doe just the jane doe no and i was just reading um
it was like around 11 o'clock 12 o'clock at night they submitted paperwork to allow the jane doe to actually testify uh under an alias so then she's not going to say her name even on the stand wow
just so y'all know on a different note smokey robinson has broken his silence Oh, I know everybody's been waiting.
With bated breath.
Yes.
What did he say?
Please tell what Smokey said.
I'm appalled.
I can't speak about this right now.
Why are you stuttering, my nigga?
That's how he sounded.
That's how 85-year-old niggas from Detroit sound when it catches up.
He wrote the stutters
in the no time.
I read the transcript.
I'm appalled.
I'm appalled.
I can't speak about this right now.
And then this was, he did an interview with the Daily Mail.
The Daily Mail?
Yes.
Christ.
And after that,
they reported that he started mumbling incoherently.
See, that's what
85.
And then hung up.
So I think, one, he could be incoherent.
I don't think it's fair to call 85-year-olds incoherent.
You ever talked about if they're incoherent?
Not all of them.
Not all of them, but he might have been.
Not all of them.
But my mom is 86.
And at least, I mean, she's quite incoherent.
Why are you shooting at your mama off this?
Right.
Every time she sent me birthday money, at least once a month.
Man, I've been killing off that shit.
I've got thousands this year.
Mark.
Yo, shit, huh?
Yo, Mark, what the fuck?
And they going to hate on Frazier getting this shit off.
Let's all of them niggas need to put hands on you, Mark.
What's wrong with you, man?
Look, I'm just, anyway.
It's mama love.
Let Frazier get some of that lick.
All right, you speaking, speaking about moms.
Y'all want to talk, Jaden Daniels' moms?
Oh, yeah.
Jaden Daniels' moms did the pivot.
Shout out to Ryan Clark, friend of the show.
For sure.
And she expressed her position in cock blocking
or just always being seen with her son while he's trying to get his one-two on.
A lot of people were anxiously awaiting to hear her.
side of things.
And I love when podcasters go get the obscure interview that you know we wanted to notice, but we wasn't going to try to interview Jaden Daniels' mom.
All right, here we go.
Ryan.
Protecting Jaden from the wrong woman.
Getting your bag, Ryan.
So, first and foremost, and I have a meme out there, and it's funny.
I can only laugh about it, but the whole girl's
comment was made first of all two years from it with LSU.
And
it was a question asked, like, what is your biggest fear?
And that should be every parent's biggest fear.
That should be, if you're a star athlete and you're a female at WNBA, that should be your biggest fear is, you know, the men or, you know, the women, because you're a public figure.
And, you know,
your dollar amount is associated with your name.
So you never know who really is there for you and who's really against you.
And our thing is, is like, I want Jade to date.
I don't want everybody to say I'm putting it on record.
My son can date.
He can live freely, makes his own decisions.
However, the relationship we have he does value my opinion because you know when my kids were little
i did a lot for them so and my kids saw that my father my background i worked too hard to allow anybody at any moment to come in and just you know take it away so i have a view of a what i feel a good person is And, you know, but my son is 24 and he does have to go through things.
He has to learn on his own.
And, you know, he's a great kid and I'm thankful for him he's you know
not
like some of these other guys you know he's really to himself he's a homebody he just really is he's really
he still is loves sports like he really is so I'm trying to work on his afterlife after sports because at some point it does end and I don't want him to just be like now what do I do so I want to keep him involved in the world and you know have opened up a lot of doors like we're
in charge of his foundations you know I'm there's all we're trying to build facilities, and you know, back in his hometown that are going to help the youth and things like that.
So, that's what I'm in charge of on top of this everyday
function.
Give her some grace,
she's not a celebrity, she doesn't talk in sound bites.
How we're positioning him and you know, all this other stuff.
So, it's not just about you guys seeing me out and thinking we're just like
hanging party.
I mean,
okay,
give her some grace.
She doesn't have media training, so she doesn't talk in sound bites.
It was a little long-winded, but she was trying to make a point.
Yeah, and she made it.
Maybe not the most succinctly way, but we got the point, did we not?
What's the point?
I didn't get the point.
She's trying to protect her son from gold-digging hussies.
That's the fucking thing.
She's making it about herself.
So it's the same every mom says in history.
She's making it about herself.
I mean, it's good to protect your son, but when you start to say that I work so hard
to avoid anyone, I work too hard to prevent anyone from taking it from me.
Like, it's not yours, it's his.
Number one, number two, yes, a lot of parents do sacrifice a lot in order for you to become successful, whether it's work hard, to pay a lot of money,
sacrifice, sacrifice.
But at the same time, Parents like that, no disrespect to her, they make it about themselves a lot, about what they want for the child.
And when you reach a certain age, that causes a lot of friction, contention.
And later on, if a girl do come along, they're going to exile you out of of the situation.
So, let me ask you guys.
And then, when they exile, you're going to be over there, somebody in 10 bucks, too, stressed out, wondering what did I do wrong, instead of just giving them the space.
Sometimes we can't protect our children from life, Mark.
We can't.
Like, sometimes you got to let them bump their head.
I get it a little bit, be there.
Yo, hey, chill.
But sometimes you have to, it's a give and take relationship.
It should be.
So, let me ask you guys this.
Yeah, but let me, I want to ask you guys this because, you know, as having children, I understand, man.
Do you feel like your sacrifice deserves
to be rewarded?
No, yes.
I don't, yes, no, not me.
I would think.
I feel like you sacrificed for your children in order for them to be better than you.
Go ahead.
The reward would be to whom?
Yeah.
Okay, so I don't know their circumstances.
I'm saying, I don't know.
I know, I know.
So I'm just drawing off of what I perceive from what she was saying.
And it seems like she was saying that she worked very, very hard to provide for this young young man, to provide opportunities for him to get to this stage in his life where he is a professional
football player.
So
that takes,
that's an enormous amount of circumstances and choices that she had to make.
And so now he's here to where he can now provide, he can probably be the provider for the family.
She's trying to protect him from life experience he may not have.
And now that he's in the league, he's going to get a whole lot of things thrown at him that he might not be prepared for.
My question was, reward for whom?
For her or for him?
The family?
Yes, then I think it's wrong.
I think that
as a parent, the sacrifices that you make should be for your child to live a great life, the best life possible.
But I don't necessarily think that you should be doing those things so that you could reap that.
That's the reward.
Your child living a great life or being a productive member of society or whatever case may be.
Yeah, she's his agent also.
That's the reward.
Oh, well, if she's his agent as well, then she's doing double duty and trying to
protect
his wealth and future earnings.
And the other side to that, yo, you say sometimes you got to let your kids bump their heads and stuff.
Some of them.
At the level he had, them had the wrong head bump
changes your entire life.
I understand.
But
it's hard.
It ain't just a head bump.
It's still hard because at some point you're going to have to let go of the reins.
So I think that
she's not going to be there forever.
And you mess around and get one of them snipers that we talk about that know how to just lay in a cut.
Bruh, and they'll have him blocking his mom.
Like from speaking to her.
I think that you got to kind of let
I think think
from from from from living with your mother to living on your own is a transition and i think that that transition comes via college that's why i'm an advocate of college sometimes for the social um piece more social part yeah so i think that as as his mom and as his agent it might be overkill like yo have you seen me out and i'm with my mom 24 7
Well the shaky ground is that, for me, anyway, is that if you're trying to protect him to be a beneficiary yourself, aren't you just now becoming the person that you're trying to protect him from in a different sort of way?
But that's why I asked you.
Are you cooking?
Because I feel differently than Mel about it.
Not that Mel, but what Mel asked was, you know, do you deserve part of it?
I think the difference is the outsider doesn't deserve part of this.
I actually think the parent does deserve part of it.
That's me.
I couldn't disagree more with that.
What, that the parent deserves something?
What does the parent deserve?
I don't see no deserving in there.
Yeah.
Deserve?
If you are a single mom and you raise, or a father, and you raise your kid the whole life, and you go in the pop water, you doing the weight training, you take it around the country, you're doing AAU, and they go pro and make $100 million.
I'm not saying I would ask for it, but I do think I deserve it.
You don't think you deserve any of that?
So what happens if you do all that and they become an accountant?
Oh, well, you.
I think they I think I deserve.
I think I deserve the same thing, which is that they should do the best for me that they can.
Now, if you're an accountant, then best thing might be a Father's Day gift.
But if you've got $100 million, the best you could could do for me is a little bit more.
I think that you get what you raise.
Yeah, I think if you raise your hand, I think you get what you raise.
I think if you raise your quality individual a certain way,
then when they hit the lick, you just taken care of.
I'm not speaking for them because I don't know their situation, but you don't have to.
I also think
there's only but so far your parent can take you professionally.
I subscribe to that.
I think that's generally true, yeah.
He's one of the best quarterbacks in the world now.
Mom, you did your job.
Hey, you want to even negotiate the next contract?
Cool, but there's something to be said for the parent being, if you want to be on that, the eye in the sky or the eye that's watching from afar.
We consistently see her as the mother and the agent, two roles that we're not used to seeing as much as we keep seeing her.
So I think that's a reason.
We meet mom and jerks.
We see it with Lamar.
We see it a lot with, I think, more artists too, actors, the actresses, a lot of the dance moms, the managers, things like that.
But they're behind the scenes though.
Not necessarily.
It all seems like a lot of that shit goes awry.
That's just a good example.
And a lot of them can only get you to a certain point.
I mean, Matthew Don's got behind that car.
Right.
And then he didn't.
You know, some professional.
And that's kind of the point.
Yeah.
He did.
You did all you could do.
And now you hand your child to Quincy or a professional.
Somebody that has to take your child with
cultivate the talent and not just be the parent that's babysitting.
This is, y'all are bringing up all these instances where we may see this.
I've never seen it.
One, and two, this instance is different because we keep seeing her in what we deem to be dating scenarios.
Yes, this is the regular shit.
This is not just a parent with their kid chilling.
It ain't manager.
She'll tell him agent shit.
It's just like another telling point.
Shout out.
She says, You chaperoning.
You chaperoning.
I think I know.
And if he likes it, I love it.
Right.
But you know, so
she said, yo, I think I know a good person when I see him.
Like,
that's your discernment.
You might look at somebody and be like, yo, I think this young girl is a hussy.
And a girl could be the farthest thing from, or vice versa.
You might look and say, yo, I think this young girl is the model individual.
And that young girl could have all negative intentions.
But it's his life.
He might want the hussy.
And she's a husband.
And he might want his mama there
step by step with it.
It's looking like that, though.
Like, I feel like if he didn't want her around all the time, like, why would he have, why would he have appointed her
as his agent?
And then also,
not necessarily.
Wait a year or two because he might not know life outside of that.
He don't know different.
This is a question because I don't know.
As a sports agent, don't you have to have some kind of
licensure?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So is she an agent?
But as a manager, you don't.
Yes and no.
So, okay.
Because some people let attorneys represent them and all that contractual shit.
Yeah, but that's still a licensure.
Yeah, but you're still an attorney.
I'm just asking you.
You said like you can't just do it as the mom, as an agent.
You could be the manager and make a deal, though.
Let me see.
She has a company with the lawyer.
She, yeah.
Associated with the lawyer.
You got to get a license.
You got to get a license.
Yeah, so you said, that's what I'm saying.
So, I mean, I don't, my thing is, I don't think the mom is the best choice either.
And I think that separating from your mom as you become an adult is a good thing.
Well, she's an NFL PA certified agent.
Oh, well, then that's.
She has a master's degree in hospital administration and another one in entrepreneurial business.
Okay, so she did the work to become an agent.
So, I mean, that's important.
That counts.
That does count.
That's very important.
So, you know, that helps.
I think the professional relationship should be separate than the social media.
Yeah, I was about to say, but it doesn't negate the point, right?
Which is that I think they should be separate for his own growth and development.
Because I think a mom has an interest in what the, I mean, for some of us, no woman is good enough for our mom or no dude is good enough for our dads or whatever, right?
A manager has a particular interest or agent has a particular interest in protecting your interests, right, financially, because you want the biggest check possible as a mom you may have a different interest and sometimes those things compete and she said it she said yo your social credit score affects your brand and affects your bag she said that and what she was saying i think as a mom yo i'm i'm gonna speak for myself yeah fam some of the bad relationships that i may have had
i learned from those relationships and they have me to be the individual that i am today so if i didn't go through those hurdles or i didn't go through that shit right there where again you crying and you going through it and all that shit you might not be the individual that you are today your mother can't protect you from adversity family adversity builds character the only thing I would add to that though is I was gonna clap it up for that oh go ahead no no no no no
just just an agency if you're a big star actor football player whatever and you outside dating people that don't earn a good look your agency is also gonna try and share that too and they also gonna sit between you and they're not telling Anthony Edwards yo my nigga you gotta chill the fuck out I'm about to say some niggas don't you think they're not telling him yeah I'm just saying I don't want to look the momentum of shit that other agents might just don't do.
But your mother
have the influence.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
She can't pick and choose who you date.
The agency might give you advice.
Yo, dog, you out here wilding, you bugging the fuck out.
You're affecting your brand.
You're affecting your bag.
Well, the other thing, the agency might have experience with these same women in a different level than the mom might.
You know what I mean?
They'd be like, well, she was, he was, she was just dating such and such from the jazz.
I'm sure Richard.
I'm not over that point.
All of the yamings.
I'm not over that point that you made earlier.
There's a word for when the mom is acting like your girl.
There's a word for that.
There's a word for when your mom may not have a boyfriend or somebody in her life and it's a little slow and now she's just on your body and she can't take the separation from a child that she's been with all the time.
And I sacrificed my social life.
I sacrificed my dating life and all of that shit to make sure that you did walk the straight and narrow.
A lot of parents did that.
Seems to me.
It seems like Oedipus.
Right.
The Oedipus complex?
The Bedabis.
That a business.
But like reverse, sort of.
Different, though.
See, Ryan Clark kept letting her talk like uninterrupted.
And I think she was giving herself away in terms of talking about her son as strictly an investment.
And we didn't hear enough about the, hey, that's my son.
And he should get his own lived experience part.
And I'm always here for him, but he should go rock.
Was she trying to do talk as an agent?
Was that the idea that she's speaking as an agent as opposed to as a mom?
I think she was combining the moment.
She was toe in the line.
Because agents are supposed to talk like that.
Moms are.
I get your point.
She said, yeah,
I know good people when I see them.
Huh?
She was occupying both roles when she was speaking.
The longer that she spoke, you can hear both her personality.
The dude that you are today in your relationship, right?
If you didn't go through some of the tumultuous shit you've been through in past relationships, you wouldn't have the patience you have today.
You wouldn't have the tolerance you have today.
You wouldn't be the man that you are today if you didn't endure that other shit, my nigga.
Adversity is definitely a teacher for anybody.
So if you're trying to protect your kids from that, fam, as a boy, I can only speak for being yo, you getting punched in your face,
you learn something from that, true.
You fighting at three o'clock, my nigga, let's take it up on the hill in the grass.
You learn some shit from that.
All of those things, you know what I'm saying?
They're lessons that come along with those things.
But some could argue the other side, like if, and again, not speaking on their relationship, I don't know anything about it, but like a Jalen Green and Jaya, Drea.
You know, some might say if there was a mom there to prevent that, because that's, she could be looking at these types of people.
Who says his mom ain't there?
No, I'm talking about Jaden Daniel's mom could be looking at those situations and saying, like, yeah, heartbreak, all of that teaches you things, but I'm not about to let my child get groomed by somebody older who's looking at him as a lick because he's thick.
All this became
equivalent from the juju thing, right?
Yeah, but even that, look, they don't got to be
40 years old to get you a lick.
We know some of the the snipers out here in their 20s and 30s.
Correct.
But this is my thing.
I would rather my kids take bumps in their 20s than now when he's 35 and he runs into the yami.
When he's 30, he runs into the yami.
That was it.
That was it, for sure.
That was him.
I mean, what is on really?
She didn't say nothing.
I didn't say it ain't.
She made faces.
Made a little face to the 30-year-old hobby.
I know he's
another 20-year-old snipers.
Nothing, never mind.
Why are you you always trying to paint that picture?
I am not trying to paint that picture.
Why make the faces that we can't see?
Why are you always trying to paint that little nasty picture?
I'm not trying to paint any picture.
I'm not trying to paint any picture.
We're basically saying
we're saying the same thing.
Michelangelo.
We're saying the same thing.
She's trying to protect him from snipers in general.
Got it.
Not just older women in general.
That's what she's trying to protect him from.
Well, when she finally let him loose, he ain't going to have that training.
He ain't at all.
Here's the thing.
He ain't going to have that training.
And guess where he at?
Deering headlights.
And guess where he at?
D.C.
And guess what they do out there?
Slavo.
Has he expressed anything about the criticism that she
receives from being around him constantly?
Yeah, my mom's still debugging.
I haven't heard that.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, I mean, like, why?
So if he had a problem with it, wouldn't he have tried to
equip him?
We wouldn't.
Especially if they're not going to
denounce our mother.
Not denounce, but just like not have her around as much.
Like while he's in.
From what I understand,
it's not that she's around.
She's also around in social situations where he could be, you know, like almost like chaperoning dates.
Jesus.
Is she like heavily religious or something?
Yeah.
They are.
Well, he appears to be.
He always.
Because it could, you know, like
before marriage and all, like, it could be.
She could be.
pushing a lot on him.
He popped something in college.
So she might know that nigga herb.
That's the other thing.
That's a good point.
That's the other thing.
She might have seen him in action and be like, you know what?
I'm going to keep my eye on you.
I got you, kiddo.
They're going to skin you.
Yeah, you can't.
Listen, he likes it.
I love it.
Yeah, true.
What's good for the goose.
I'm looking forward to watching play this year.
It's a spinning and rinse in every washing machine.
You're going to get spun sooner or later.
I'd rather them get spun when they're young.
That's true.
One day you're going to be sitting at a restaurant and Don Poole gonna walk Melissa Ford on to the table.
You got to make a decision.
Mama?
Or the kidmam?
Or mama.
Which mama now?
Which mama you want now?
I'm your mama now.
200 million, you might burp them on your shoulder.
Give me a little town, put it right over there.
That's your problem.
Smokey in trouble.
That's your problem.
Town got smoky, right?
And we don't eat that picture of you like you do to us.
Oh, my God.
Fuck you, Dick.
Keep powers in them.
Fan dance.
No comment.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm your mama now.
I always keep powers.
Isn't his 30s?
Now, right?
Shit.
How does Da Vinci be?
So you do.
Who?
20, 29, I believe.
What's your
right off the cliff?
I mean, you said it.
Da Vinci.
From BMF.
The dude that you said Melvin running around with.
I was not.
I interviewed him.
You just said last week, I wish was Elizabeth.
I did.
I mean, you sound like you were.
Say something else.
We'll read that text you put in the group chat.
Say something else.
Stop talking to us.
I'll read that shit right now.
Stop talking to us like we're telling.
We'll read that fucking text you you put in our chat.
I'll read that shit.
In our work group chat.
I'll read that shit right now.
You put this text in our work group chat.
You were saying when that nigga was on a bottle.
I was trying to be helpful.
I bet.
I was trying to be helpful.
To whom?
That's not what you said.
You always helping.
That's your problem now.
You be helping.
Anyway.
And you put a dance.
The ultimate helping.
And you put a dancing emoji.
Yo, I knew everybody's face when they looked at that text.
I said, that was the fun part.
I was driving, so I was lost.
I was like,
what is happening right now?
Anywho's.
Anywho.
And she had the nerve to say, Nixon Fobb.
You're such a traitor.
Fucking business.
That nigga don't know what you was doing when you was texting.
Yo, I do want to take this time out to thank the Boston Celtics.
Oh, boys.
What a run y'all have been on.
We're getting back to this.
This is one of my favorite collections of Celtics.
You know, back in the day, you niggas was ultra-white on your white boy shit.
All these black people on the Celtics, it's a shame that we broke this team up.
It's a shame that we will never see this group of Celtics together again.
Sounds like Triple H.
You don't think they keep the nucleus?
I think that next season, well, what's the nucleus?
I think that Brown and Tatum stay, of course,
Derrick White or Drew
Korzingis or horford is out of there i think next next year their payroll is at 600 million for new owners
for new owners no i don't think that that new owners are looking at that bill i think drew's gone i think they keep derrick white i think drew's gone and i think you you even if you want to bring horford back you can bring him at the veteran minimum i think all of them look like fucking uh bodega bread in front of the nba clutch player of the year jalen brunson and i keep trying to get people to say his name with me but they won't.
Every time I try to get these niggas to say his name is Jalen Brunson, they decide to say something else.
Jalen is putting on an absolute clinic out there.
Gold Knicks.
Garden was on fire.
Yeah.
Nah, the Celtics, you had a good run.
G-Spin.
Don't feel bad, my brother.
Don't feel bad, my Ivory brother.
It's over, man.
Sent them niggas packing in five games.
Five of them.
Nobody thought it could happen.
Anyway, man.
So it's over there.
It's a good run, Celtics.
Knicks in five.
Gentlemen, gentlemen sweet.
Gentlemen, we're going to be gentlemen about it.
We're going to be gentlemen about it.
Even though the Knicks have not closed out a series on their home court in God knows how long.
25 years.
So it would be great.
Look at Flip knows how long.
So it would be great to do that in game six, but why play with them?
Yeah, don't play with your.
Hey, when we was kids, we played with our food.
You know what I mean?
I don't believe all that shit.
As a job, whenever.
You finish your meal.
Finish the breakfast.
It's more serious to come.
The fucking self-defense.
My nigga fucking real confident.
So, Paul, after this, who they play next?
Most likely Indiana.
The one that I'm going to be doing is the
Indiana looks like them.
I'm rooting for Indiana.
That's crazy.
Whoever's next,
whoever wants to jump on the plate, the dinner plate next.
Hey, whether that be Cleveland, Nimhart, Tyrese, Halliburton, and the light-skinned ninjas over there.
Hey, whoever wants to jump on this dinner plate next.
It's all good.
Nixon five.
Also, the second favorite to now win the NBA
championship right behind the Thunder.
Vegas odds, my brother.
I don't work there.
I don't work there, my man.
Hey, it's I don't work there, my brother.
He's just not
saying things.
I'm just reporting to you what the Vegas Odds is, man.
It's cool, man.
Y'all gonna work out Austin Reeves contract and all that.
He just honestly.
Y'all gonna work things out.
He good.
Y'all gonna bounce back.
He good.
I doubt.
Y'all Y'all gonna bounce back.
We'll be all right.
We're talking about to Eastern Conference finalists right now, though.
Mute up.
Not yet.
Mute up for a minute.
I mean, we're not talking about fucking first-round exits.
I don't even talk basketball.
I haven't been talking basketball.
Good, don't.
That's all right.
Don't.
You too, Philly Six and Man.
Mute up, man.
I don't got nothing back.
I got to say that.
I don't even talk about
it.
Mute up.
I got nothing to say.
What'd you do with the Sixers ball?
Yeah.
It's behind you.
I'm about to throw that shit in the Hudson.
Put that fucking Sixers ball on.
that shit.
I have a disrespectful Shumper.
He flip-snitched on me, too.
He snitched immediately.
I was over there.
Y'all niggas was over there mumbling and shit like that.
I didn't like it.
Joe sold you out 10 seconds later.
He did.
He's a trader.
But you know, hey, I do it for the team.
What team?
Mine, nigga.
Delf.
On Patreon, I'm going to have a word with him on Shumper.
Hold on, hold on.
Oh, hey, huh?
What type of word you have with Shumper?
See,
me and you about to end up having a word.
I'm just asking you, what type of word so I can get up and remove myself?
Oh, yeah, you gotta remove yourself.
Nah, I can't do that.
You gotta remove yourself.
You can't talk to my man like that, not in front of me.
Because I won't let a nigga do that to you.
Oh, then remove yourself.
Nah, I'm be it, nigga.
I want to do that my money.
He's getting it.
Yuman Shumper is getting it.
And I mean, I say getting it like I'm somebody.
That ain't what I'm trying to say.
That's not what I'm trying to say.
You have an opinion that you want to express about the latest headline i mean just now
yo yo if you my people and you introduce me to somebody or you now have kids with somebody or that's your people then i'm rolling with them just off the stream for you the second that shit get awkward there when it's family shit i still shut up because it's family stuff
Family shit is family shit.
But once shit start getting too goofy and I got to read a headline saying that Amon Chumper wants Tiana Taylor arrested.
I don't agree with that.
That sounds crazy.
No, no, this is my homegirl now.
This is somebody I care about on a deeper level than music.
And as a dad, I don't understand that.
Somebody would have to explain that to me.
Maybe I'm missing something
as a parent.
I've been in
some of the roughest co-parenting situations you could possibly be in.
I never said
I want her to go to jail and be in jail and then put my kids with Nana or with grandma or let them come with me.
What?
That's wild.
Yeah.
That sounds crazy.
And the headline came out on Mother's Day.
No,
it was nuts.
It was nuts.
You had it.
What happened to it?
Yeah, I got it.
Iman Schumpert has filed a court motion asking for Tiana Taylor to be found in criminal contempt of court and send her to jail in documents obtained by Complex.
A motion filed by Schumpert and his legal team demands that Taylor be found in contempt for violating the terms of of their divorce, claiming neither party could talk about the case.
He's asking the court to fine her $1,000 and throw her in jail for 20 days.
That's crazy.
According to him, Taylor willfully and contemptuously exposed and broadcast specific provisions of the final judgment decree of divorce and related provisions, recklessly disregarding the financial circumstances, privacy, safety, and securities of the parties and their minor children.
And he added that Taylor's violation of their deal caused him financial loss and damage to his reputation, both personal and professional.
See, now he got to knock it.
Yo, dog,
you have to knock it the fuck off.
Amon Shumpert has been out of the league for however many years, and that's not because of Tiana Taylor, to our knowledge, to my knowledge, and I'm speaking for me.
Like, what the fuck is he talking about?
It's nuts.
Amon, this ain't keeping it, P, dog.
I ain't gonna hold you.
This ain't keeping it none of the letters.
This is, I hope it's not true.
I hope it's not true.
I hope they lying on somebody's name.
You saying you want to see Tiana Taylor in jail.
I don't know.
What if she did cost him some money, though?
I'm just, I'm, just for the conversation, what if she did do something that cost him something?
Can we go back to the beginning where she tried to keep the whole thing under wraps and he and his team is the one that?
Yeah, they didn't want, they didn't want everything filed under initials.
You had to use the names.
Exactly.
So he's the one that broadcast to the world that their shit was fucking falling apart.
So it's just, it's so ironic that this is exactly what he's trying to accuse her of doing.
Dog, niggas didn't know Tiana.
No, she ain't with no internet games.
That part.
She's not.
Tiana Taylor is not with no internet games.
She's not that.
She knows that.
And if you start playing internet games, yo, dog, niggas is niggas.
So you know that you know your partner buttons and what's going to steer them off of a cliff.
So if you know that your wife don't play or your ex or whatever they are don't play no internet games and you play them every chance you get I don't respect it.
I don't respect it.
And after the terms came out or they split the divorce divorce, niggas was like, oh,
niggas did I.
Like,
yes, niggas was bigging him up.
Why would you want to see Tiana Taylor in jail fresh off of the Met Gala?
You know what?
He wanted the cops to come to the Met
get this.
Now, I know how it is when you see your ex shining, nigga.
I get it, but you cannot do that.
I don't agree with that.
Yeah, he can't do that.
That shit hurt.
And I don't know if he got somebody in his ear to say this or his corner to say this, but this, this ain't it.
This ain't it, though.
This is hard.
And she, she,
people that's usually private like that, they take a lot, they take it hard when you try to do things like that, if you understand what I'm saying.
It weighs on her because she moves smooth.
She's not with none of that.
She's not with putting the family out there.
She's not withouting him.
She's not with trying to make him look a certain way.
She just wants things to move on
amicably.
Yeah.
But not only that, they have children.
They do have children.
And they have children also.
This is to me, I put you on my album.
He's on Tiana Taylor's album, Rapping.
Rapping.
Yeah, I understand.
Who the fuck was looking for Iman Chumper rapping?
She was making calls.
Yo, my boo has a mixtape or some shit coming out.
The television show, I have to assume that that was off the strength for.
What are you doing?
What are you doing, dog?
Him leaving the show was on the strength of of her too, though.
What'd that mean?
What do you mean?
No,
the shy.
They killed him off the show
from some information that I've heard.
I'm talking about a reality show.
Oh, I'm talking about the TV, the shy that he was on.
He was a character.
I'm just saying.
He was a character.
I said, what if she cost him some bread?
He was a character on the shy for a couple seasons.
Continuous character.
Yes, a continuous character.
And when the news came out about what they were starting to go through, you call it irony if you want,
he got killed off that season.
Again, who is the one that put their business on Front Street?
He only has himself to thank for all of this.
He opened the door because all of this would have stayed under wraps.
She did.
And who's to say that she didn't lose any fucking income because of all of the bad press?
I'm saying that I'm sure there was income loss when power couples or people that you deem to be a power couple split,
somebody's going to lose some money somewhere.
I can't speak to the rumors that you're talking about because I don't watch the shot, but I know when Amon killed Dancing with the Stars, they wasn't together and she was the biggest cheerleader.
Publicly.
That's true.
That's a fact.
We actually shouted her out for her.
I know.
Hey, I'll do you one better.
I'll take it a step further, Big Freeze.
No, seriously.
When the rumor came out that he was cheating and sleeping and sucking and fucking,
The first one to his defense.
Was her.
Was her.
Y'all not going to get in between me and my best friend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How do you want that woman in jail?
Locked up.
It's crazy.
Please.
You can't make that make sense for me.
No, stop.
Hey, niggas die to have a baby mama
step up for them.
Solid.
Even when we might not be the best.
She rumors.
My name.
Yo, that's my homie.
We're not doing that.
We're friends.
Y'all not going to divide us.
I support him.
Mind y'all business.
What?
Come on, man.
Stop playing.
Stop playing, Tamar.
Come on.
That's all I got.
I ain't want to drag that.
You did?
I wanted to say it for Patreon.
Because I didn't want to put it on the main and start getting focused up, but fuck that.
That's how I feel about it.
That's how I feel about it.
If I see a headline tomorrow that say one of my niggas, Ice free, we want our baby mom.
If you see something for me that say, yo, Joe Buddh wants baby mom locked up, somebody should check on me.
It's a problem.
Honestly.
I don't care what level we are.
I ain't going to be.
That's sick.
Yeah, that is sick.
That is sick.
That is sick.
Would you just hit me with this?
I'm going to get at you on Patreon.
Don't get at me, nigga.
Pick a side.
No, you just told me, because you told me that.
She told me that.
I'm down for the pick a side Olympics.
Don't do that to me, nigga.
I'm in the pick-a-side Olympics and have zero problem picking a side, especially when I love one person more than the other.
So Flip, she asked you to pick a side?
She said what he just said.
You can't be neutral in this.
She said that he is hurt.
He is doing some shit, Flip, that's hurting me.
If you care about him, you should call him and check on him because file is foul.
Nigga, you call me your sister, file is fouled, nigga.
You need to check him and say that.
And I called him.
And I'm saying, and I told him, and he just said the shit that you're not reading some message ain't true.
But that's just me being witfully obtuse, I guess.
You want to believe the best about your people?
Yeah, I don't want to hear that.
That shit hurt my heart just now.
You see, I just
that shit fucked my world up because I've been, I know how strong she keeps it.
She doesn't believe in that.
She's not with all of it.
Like Joe said, she's a wonderful person.
She don't believe in blasting niggas.
So for him to do that, that shit hurt me.
That shit fucked up.
Now, what I will say about Tiana,
that little video she made saying, I just want to get my black back blown out in peace, that probably didn't.
That probably didn't massage the situation is all I'm going to say.
And that's it.
Other than that, Tiana, I love you.
Amon, come on, dog.
Come on, dog.
I don't have anything else.
I don't have anything else that is important, unimportant.
Issue guys, I'm
why you making that face.
What happened?
I'm chilling.
Why your foot about to fall off?
More hurts.
I'm chilling.
Nigga got the whole new balance attire, nigga.
NB socks.
Look at all that socks, man.
Ishmael, you lost a lot of weight.
Let's send you a package
so you can balance your life out.
New balance.
Look at you.
You look good, boy.
I'm going to get down to the bottom.
There's a big Sean Ab Soul Joey badass Red Bull freestyle rolling around it's six minutes long i listened to sean and a little bit of soul i haven't heard the rest but from what i heard sounds like fire they saying joey was firing on uh daylight and them right in front of ab
oh
let's listen to it and talk about on patreon oh think they got in the studio doing it together
Yeah, it was like a it's like a
like a cypher type of vibe.
See, and that's why I can't fall for rap beef because when Monster or Red Bull called with a check, you're gonna stand next to the digger.
But I do want to hear it.
Yeah, I want want to hear.
I heard her go crazy.
Damn, could Joey badass rap bad in ass on?
No.
No.
No, disrespect.
Respectfully.
No.
All right, so on Patreon, we'll get to that.
There's a lot of good music out there right now.
Yo, why are you looking at my computer?
I'm not looking at your computer.
Why are you looking at your computer?
Why are you looking at my computer?
I'm not looking at your computer.
There is a lot of good music out there, some of which I'll talk about on Patreon.
Shout out to the Patronis.
I'm going to play a record that I have been playing since Friday, since it dropped.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie to y'all.
First of all, I'm a sucker for anything that sounds like Prince with the Prince music and the background and the chords.
But this Mariah the Scientist Burning Blue record.
I heard it on Instagram.
It hit.
I heard it on the ground.
It's crazy.
I almost really ain't played nothing else since this record dropped.
Mariah Science is burning blue.
Let's do it.
Oh my god.
Come on.
Stop playing with her.
Stop playing with her.
I got that blue
fever.
Hold ass ice till you can heal it.
You're like another
fire-breathing creature.
But it don't burn how it appears.
It's true.
You could make me know.
But don't you forget it.
If the person you fell won't ever do
for reasons,
it's only because you hate it.
I've been
playing in the air.
My clothes went, dripping everywhere.
I'm all in.
I don't even care as long
as you're
And I'll oblige from this to please you.
If you're open
by it, then it's treason.
And I decide before I swing it.
If you you shoot, then you can dance
every single dollar and your last few cents.
That I will too.
And I mean, yeah,
tell me where do we go from here.
Yeah,
breathing in the air, my gosh.
Dreaming everywhere, I'm all with.
I don't really care as long
as you're
playing in my head.
I'm falling.
What I demonstrate, I'm hauling.
I couldn't last as long as you're
burning.
I'm burning
move,
I am
feeling in the air.
I'm losing
trippin' everywhere.
Your body
can't make it within a food.
Oh my god,
I couldn't keep it.
Oh my god.
Oh yeah.
Well now let the music keep going on
some of that reprise shit today.
Brand new Mariah of Scientists.
That record is called Burning Blue.
Absolutely flames.
This is crazy.
Major League Baseball has just reinstated Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Fire.
I mean, good, but.
Fuck
trash.
Pete Rose should have been in.
So I'm
fire to me.
Baseball.
Suck monkey ball.
Why is it fire?
They wait till we dead to do it.
Why is that point fire?
I'm just saying, the fact that it's still done now, it's accoladed in the Hall of Fame, all that type of shit.
Even though he's dead, so what?
Not so what, but he's dead.
Better late than never, I guess.
So you'd rather just not do it at all.
Leave it the way it was.
He don't know it got done.
I mean, it was great for him.
Maybe for his family.
And
you are finally doing the right thing.
It's a shame that Pete Rose couldn't be alive to see that.
And listen, and I still don't care what they say, fix Barry Bonds.
Indeed.
Yeah.
Fix Barry Bonds up.
Do that.
I agree.
You want to do something.
Anyway.
Rest in peace, Pete Rose.
Yes, rest in peace.
And congrats.
And congrats, yeah.
I'm going to go to West Coast on this one.
I've had this record for a couple weeks and I've been wanting to play it, but this is called Unsung Heroes by Snoop.
He is dropping a new album called Is It a Crime?
And should be out this week, probably tomorrow.
But the record is called Unsung Heroes.
It's been a long time.
I shouldn't have left you without some hood shit to step to.
When you act nice, that's when they disrespect you.
Come sit down with your uncle, let me say that you, nephew.
Yeah, I'll let you run it.
Gang members lifting weights in the front yard.
Life's a game of space, better keep a truck card.
You ain't used to hell's kitchen, get the hell out.
Me and Dre at the sofa, the only way I sell out.
Liver.
I know I say a lot of shit.
Be patient.
A lot of knee-jerk reactions, false information.
Fuck that, I'm at the house on the PlayStation.
Dancing with these dead presidents, the rip inauguration.
Too many niggas playing with my reputation.
To step on our turf, you need an invitation.
No conversation, that's just how we live.
First watch was a flavor flavor.
Park, you know what?
Time to live.
Time's up.
21 gun salute to my lieutenants.
This that West Coast boat that I intended.
Some advice to my young niggas trying to get it.
Don't never let rap beat affect your business.
School of hard lots, we don't do the academics.
Nah, that ain't a shot.
You know how dogs get when the moon rocks.
Hood niggas still eatin' moon pie.
Mama must have raised a fucking hell raiser.
Keep that lighter fluid.
I'm a trailblazer.
Yeah, cuz he got that stick on.
Triple O G, focused on these zeros.
It's the perfect song for the unsung heroes.
Dare nigga to whack up my face on the miro.
Sharpening arrows, baptizing pharaohs.
Shoot for the stars, you know who in charge.
I eat with the gods, this death row.
I put my life in these bars.
It's kinda hard to compare it from the fashion to the lyrics.
Wanna carry out God's plan?
You gotta have a kindred spirit.
Point blank, parrot, pair it.
I know you hear it.
Bang, bang, boogie, say up, jump the boogie, to the bang, bang, boogie, say up, jump the boogie.
Now this shit is tireless.
Long beach findings.
Show me Mount Eris, my nigga.
I'm trying to climb it.
Bang, bang, boogie, say up, jump the boogie.
Bang, bang, boogie.
Say up, jump the boogie.
Now we keep shining.
All blue diamonds.
Please rewind this.
Nick song behind this.
Enough said.
All blue, all red.
And that record is Unsung Heroes, again by Snoop off of upcoming album, Is It a Crime.
Why are you driving so many albums?
Independent.
Independent now.
Same way all these other niggas doing.
I'm just, I could drop album every month.
A lot of these independent casts is getting them out there.
I'm not going to hit billboard.
I'm not going to do 100,000.
What you mean he's independent, though?
Snoop owns Death Row.
He owns Death Row.
Yeah, but it's my label.
So I'm independent.
I got to deal with Gamma and I'm just dropping.
Gotcha.
Whatever I feel like.
He went back and got the east siders dog pound did a gospel album both of those albums yeah
uh i'm going to dc it's my man ben kenobi's from short and sweet it's uh smoke
ain't no honor in this game no more since they killed trayvon this shit ain't been the same no more sacrificial lamb made open portals till they ain't no more Visits from the damn See I don't even want the fame no more Too many wicked men had to cross the burning sands Fire in my hands like Shaka Jima in Japan I get as lethal as you can Not too many understand
The pressure it demands to match the evil of the clan I'm trying to free my fellow man just like Egypt They try to lock us niggas in the slam Till a man named Moses parted seas with a stab It was brought back as Kenobi part you niggas with the crab And when the spirit taking over sparked you niggas with the wrath My man hit my line, he said My nigga, what's the plan?
At first, we need they trust, that means we gotta build a brand.
Playing on the internet and posting on the gram.
Make the machine think we safe, they gonna treat us like we fam.
They gon' spread us to the fans, putting power in our hands.
And then it's like the spook.
We flip the switch on niggas fast.
Build militias in the trap, just like move dear.
We strap, yelling, move, bitch, we black.
This some new shit attack
again.
That is Ben Kenobi Smoke
off his project up in Smoke, which is fire.
I'm going to T.A.
Thomas.
The song is called Devotion.
I got a question.
Do you pray for me tonight?
Is your devotion to me.
Is it wide as open sea?
How deep is your love?
How deep,
how deep.
How long have you been waiting?
Yeah,
waiting up for me.
I wanna move
sweet and fight.
You're not a last name on your mind.
I wanna go,
I wanna go.
Prosting
wake up in the morning.
Face that you
know
just wanna know
if we could get even,
would you let me?
I wanna hear your choir singing praises to me.
Why the hell is you playing with me?
I'll sprinkle the chills up just fine.
Leave you tracing.
Daydreaming, baby.
I thought of you staying up with me.
I wanna go
sweet at night.
By the last thing of your mind.
I wanna go,
I wanna go.
Cause the love I broke the love for you.
The first day of the year.
Just for the moment
I wouldn't know
those
free
state of your mind.
I wanna know.
I wanna know
Close the love I want to know.
I couldn't wanna
stand
just
As T.A.
Thomas Devotion,
I bop Melissa Ford.
Yes.
Mine is called
Wakande
by
Anike.
Before we play it, though, did you hear what this played?
It was fire.
Did you have your headphones on?
Stop trying to fucking instigate shit.
It was fire.
I said it was fire.
What?
I'm just asking.
Don't touch my food.
Huh?
Can I get a fry?
Yes, you can have a fry.
You look at my dog.
I'm taking four.
You could take four.
You could take five.
Anywho's.
Wakande.
What kind of bite?
Kanye.
Oh, y'all just got law.
Let me know we got one.
Tell the fellas it's been real, we're not not trying to make it.
Oh, yeah, that's our law.
We been bounding since Mark,
baby.
Send that read em, I'ma lead him to the one that read my soul.
Send it, Stephen, once but eat that.
I was really in control.
What's up, even?
I was breathing, but some daddies, I don't know.
Gotta flip my stomach all right.
Fill I dropped them stereotypes.
Whoa, uh, ain't really the came on me.
I ain't mess got the bitches that they frame on me.
Rose in the bottom, put the strain on me, found pain on me.
Overcame all these, okay.
I'm out of the train, I'm free, mobile.
Ain't trippin' what they say about me, they lost.
Even when they throw shade on me, cause the shade on me, put the shades on me.
Oh, yeah, pacrimo, oh, yeah, just call.
Or you watch it, read me, oh, yeah, joke from me.
Oh, yeah, pacrimo, oh, yeah, just call.
Here we go, here we go.
Here Here we go,
take control,
all y'all need to squad.
You gon' know
I'm gonna rise to the
ain't gonna stop, yeah.
I'm gonna rise to the
ain't gonna stop, yeah.
I'm gonna rise to the top, yeah.
Ain't no stopping me, ain't no blockin' me.
I just got to be me,
I am proud to be me, yeah.
Got my squad around me, ayy.
I keep God around me, uh, fix my pride in my city, yeah.
You know, that's a fact, real women on the map.
Willie, we just get it started.
We're headed, it's a grab.
Here we go.
Here we go, bro.
All y'all did the squad.
You gon' know.
All you watching with me, oh yeah, the queens are here.
It's hard time now.
It's Wakande by A Nike.
My apologies if I messed up any of that pronunciation.
No, that was Bobby.
Yeah, that was tough.
Super Bobby.
That was tough.
I ain't got nothing extra.
I didn't have one.
By the I didn't have a sleeper.
Oh, okay.
He's been sleeping.
Yeah, he's sleepy.
Yeah.
I told y'all around halfway through the day.
I'm on so many minutes.
Mr.
Ph.D.
Man over there.
By 5:30?
Yo, man, who you been hanging out with?
That DaVinci nigga.
Da Vinci got you playing some shit.
Girl.
That just can't be a song that I'm talking about.
Mel, do get off.
Girl,
you listen to Cher still.
You listen to Sonny.
Hey, y'all, Sunny and shit.
Sonny.
Girl,
Sonny got the new slaps.
Yeah.
Yo, you stupid, yo.
I happen to find that one on my own.
Thank you, man.
Shout out to you, man.
That was fire.
You can get your pissed off.
Great.
Yo, if you're listening from Boston, y'all clubs close at one.
10 from Boston.
Do they really?
I don't know.
Oh, 1:30.
What the fuck?
Why you just waiting?
130-ish.
Early?
Earlier than us.
Earlier than us.
I don't know why they doing that.
Everybody closes earlier than us.
Most of us.
Man, shout out to Middle East.
We had a lot of good times out there.
Facts.
A lot of good shows out there in the Middle East.
I know a lot of good people out in Boston, but fuck all that right now.
You heard?
Oh, damn, you brought the fuck back.
Fuck all that right now man hey listen anybody listening from Boston
if you know what I can do with my game six tickets
because it looks like looks like we won't be needing those
should I make content out of them like burn it like the LeBron jersey when he went to Miami 50 man I hope Jay League get y'all 50 hey bro I'm gonna tell you like this
I don't want to hear a thing, son, if they come back and win the series.
No, no, I want to hear a whole bunch of shit.
I want to hear apologies.
No, the odds are not in their favor.
No, because you'll start doing your odds, the evens.
You know, nothing is around.
The odds, the evens, the primes,
the composites, none of them.
If Tatum didn't get hurt, then I would entertain that.
Okay.
But again, we want Tatum to get well soon.
Yes.
Prayers.
Prayers for Tatum.
It's not Achilles, man.
Other than that, man, let's play this.
Is it official?
Yeah.
Some of these Celtic niggas could relate to, man.
The beautiful part,
Boston people, is like what is your favorite fish?
Oh my god.
They up there in New England.
Listen,
some catfish, clam chowder.
Whiting.
Come on, you know, I only know two fish.
Porgies bass.
So savage.
Cod.
Cod.
You know tilapia, nigga.
You try to play me.
I do know tilapia, though.
I know you just know.
That's the extent of my fish knowledge.
You had some Chilean sea bass.
I had that.
Oh, oh, wait, what's my other shit to start with the B?
Bronzino.
Bronzino.
Hey!
Bronzino!
Alright, I know four fishes.
Fishes.
Yeah, you know, some snapper.
Some salmon.
Salmon counts?
Salmon fish?
Salmon's fish.
Salmon is fish.
I'm at seven fish.
I'm at seven fish.
Yo, keep it to your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
We bid you a new farewell.
Adio, Cereba, Dirchi, Osta, La Vista, Auer Voir, so long, goodbye.
Or a simple head nod will suffice.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
And last but certainly not least,
the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel.
And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you a Tylenol.
stop, stop it.
I'm already hope.
Hey, I'm already home.
The funniest part about Mel saying she want to know the boots, uh, boots on the ground is it's not a tough dance.
What part is it that you're having trouble with?
I don't know if I can flick the fan like that.
We'll have to see.
I don't know.
I just ordered a fan.
I'm already home.
Oh, you want to do do a TikTok?
I'm already.
You fuck with the young niggas for rent.
What is it I'm missing?
Nigga, I've been missing.
Nigga, I've been gone.
Recently, did you just witness this thing?
I've been on.
And that's for the critic.
Tell me I don't get it.
Everybody can tell you how to do it.
They never did it.
Now these niggas is smack.
Oh, they call me a camel.
But I'm asking the drought.
What the fuck?
I'm an animal.
Half man, half mammal.
My son is a sag.
This is just what I planned it to.
Hold on, be mad.
Anybody doing anything fun this week?
Anyone got any plans that they're excited about that they want to share with their audience or that we can exploit for entertainment purposes?
Just going outside.
Yeah, just working out.
Going outside.
I wanted a boy's birthdays this weekend, so I'll be doing family shit.
Let me see.
Stay Twan's birthday this week.
All right.
level, on another plane, already.
H-R-P, I got my own lane.
Yo, y'all are down out there.
Hopefully, you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.
We'll be back this week at the same time, same place.
Already.
Y'all can already see.
I ain't worried about y'all, cause I'm already me.
Do you already enough with the complaining boo-hoos?
Already
eat food already, ain't nothing giving, you gotta clean your shoes already, already, already, already, already, already.
for the
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