Episode 855 | "You Let Andrew Tate Down"

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Whoever parks ready?

Paul me, Paul me, Chan.

You get ready.

I'm ready.

I'm ready.

Park always ready.

I've been sitting here for a minute.

What's up?

I've been in my ignorant space for a long time.

Boardless brother.

That's what we are.

No board.

Huh?

That means it's coming from, you know what I mean?

It's no.

Now, if you need a Sharpie or a dog,

if you're scared, get a Sharpie.

If you're scared, get the Sharpie.

I got shit.

Like, if y'all, like, y'all need it?

Nah, we good.

Let me ask you a new one.

You bought new years.

How many years we got in the gig, man?

Come on.

We need that thing.

Leave it blank.

Make a statement.

Make a stand.

Well, they can't see that it's blank.

That's why I'm saying.

Oh.

What are you saying now?

What you got for me?

Come on, chill out, y'all.

You know, I'm on you today.

I was saying that, you know, I've been in my ignorant bubble for a long time, man.

You know, going out there to InvestFest.

You look at my finger.

Going out there to InvestFest, man, it was a lot of audience.

The JBP is a big, big brand.

I had to salute you.

Called you.

Yo, hey.

I doubted it.

It was a little humble pie I ate.

You know what I mean?

It's a whole other world.

What did you think was going on up here?

I don't give a fuck if you have no idea what you was talking about.

What are you talking about?

No, he makes sense.

He makes sense.

You're surprised that there's a big JVP audience?

No, I don't.

Invest fest?

Me,

I'm always in New York all the time.

Well, not your fucking mom.

No, no.

I'm not trying to be funny.

I'm not always in New York.

I'm in a control environment.

So anything, anywhere I go is with people that know who I am and are familiar with me.

I'm going into a whole different world.

That was a whole different world for me going in there, talking about the podcast.

I don't usually have conversations about the podcast outside, or I try to avoid them.

That was just all JBP conversations.

Enough of the shtick.

Like, enough of that.

Enough of it.

Look at the hate.

Enough of the shtick.

Why a nigga can't humble himself and come and say, yo, yo, y'all.

Nigga's been here for years.

This shit is one of the the biggest things moving.

He don't know that.

Y'all always have, I know, so what?

Okay.

I'm telling you, he's right.

I'm telling you, he's right.

Okay.

It's you, you walking in it.

You built it for 10 years.

He's been here for two years.

So, and he's concentrated in the New York City area.

When he now, I'm not trying to be serious.

He's about to set him off again.

No, I'm being serious, bro.

Nah,

you are concentrated.

Have you left New York in the New York City area?

You leave New York.

That's not true.

How often do you have to do that?

Because you don't get around all the time.

Like when you come to work, like you get across the bridge.

No, and I live out here, number one, number two.

Anywhere I go, like I said.

But you don't go many places.

You taking it as a slight.

I'm not trying to be funny.

Did you see?

It's okay.

Just be local.

And

you watch my YouTube.

Watch it.

You just tell me how much you watched it.

Stop saying that in local places.

Everywhere I go is documented, and everywhere I go, they're talking about Queensflip and what I do.

This was the first time I walked into an environment with, and it was dope.

3,000 people the first night.

It was a lot.

JVP, oh, it was ill.

It was just, it was eye-opening for me.

That's it.

You seemed a little on edge the first videos I watched.

Like, dude, walked up to you just to say he liked the work, and you was like, Don't come at me aggressive like that.

Yeah, I don't like all that aggression.

He said, I like you.

I like you.

I watched every piece of content that Flip put on YouTube this weekend.

I missed it.

And had the time of my life.

I think that that was some of the best content to hit YouTube this week.

I can't wait to watch it.

I laughed and laughed and laughed and stayed up rewinding,

checking the time stamps of all the clips that I wanted to play on air.

So if y'all have something that happened that I shouldn't play, tell me.

You can play, I'm fine, whatever.

I don't know if

anybody else.

Mark, don't try it.

Don't even try it, buddy.

Don't even try it.

I ain't got nothing.

Parks, what's up?

Parks fresh back from Puerto Rico.

What a time, man.

What a time.

Absolutely amazing.

I heard it was fire.

Absolutely amazing.

I read somewhere that

he's projected to bring $200 million to Puerto Rico.

I don't see how that's possibly true.

You think it's more?

I think it's probably closer to five, six, seven, eight.

He sold out an 18,000 arena for 30 straight shows.

Damn.

And then outside.

But how many pesos was he charging?

It was not cheap.

What the fuck?

Yo, did you say that?

That's an American.

That's an American alley.

Oh.

Pesos is Mexico, you idiot.

Dollar amount of difference.

500 pesos.

Oh, it's like 30, 60 cents.

Yeah, this guy was a fashion.

That shit was incredible, though.

Incredible show.

He did three hours straight, just him.

He had guests a little bit, but for the most part, just him, no backup tracks.

He had one guy playing acoustic guitar.

He's just rocking solo on a mountain that they built inside of the arena.

He did it for 30 nights in a row.

30 nights.

Well, he's not done yet, but it will be by the time it's all said and done.

Then he goes on a world tour after that.

That shit is impressive.

You like him.

I think that that shit is super impressive.

30 nights in one season.

You like him.

Nah, that's crazy.

You're into this guy.

Yeah.

That's your guy.

It was impressive.

Absolutely amazing.

Shout out to Puerto Rico.

All the vendor money, all of the

streets were absolutely crazy.

All that shit.

Crazy.

That's crazy.

That's dope.

Ventured off into town?

A couple different parts of town, yeah.

And that's where the fun was.

Old San Juan was super dope.

It's like all old buildings, street party.

Maybe nice ass.

It got young.

I guess the drinking age down there is 18, so somebody was like, all right, let's go elsewhere.

And there's a little area called La Pasita that's just like all outdoors.

Boy, it was, I don't know, I don't know how many thousands of people.

It's just a big circle with all types of people.

You just drink, walk around.

That's far as right.

Puerto Rico owes me nothing.

Right up your alley.

Yeah.

Drinking and walking around.

What?

Right up your alley.

Let's go.

Right up your alley.

That shit was hard crawling.

Absolutely amazing.

Yeah, man.

We're ready for you.

Yo, if y'all want to get the sharpie, come on, let's get the sharpie.

We don't need a sharpie.

We're ready for you.

You do that same thing.

Like, you get a brain fault and then look at this way.

Don't look this way.

Yeah, drop the.

We're ready.

We're ready for the road, baby.

It's a lot to talk about.

Sitting in the morning sun.

I'll be sitting in the evening calm

watching the ships roll in.

And then I'll watch them roll away.

Yes, sir.

Lillian.

This was me in the crib this weekend.

Watching

Sitting there watching YouTube and shit by myself.

Ice on vacation.

Sparks and PR.

What a time.

Ish and flipping Atlanta.

Doing it big.

Mel off work.

Fuck y'all.

Shut the bell, shut the ice.

I've had nothing to do with it.

Oh, yeah.

So,

all this shit mean, you bird ass nigga.

Wow.

When the nightmare

has come,

I mean, he turned different

is the only

thing.

Listen, man.

No, I won't.

Just miss a couple of songs that hit home.

We're going to be on bullshit.

Be afraid

just as long

as you stand.

Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

Shout out to the parents listening out there.

stand by me.

If the scout down,

Shout out to the writers on this one.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.

Hey!

Everybody in the car right now.

Everybody on vacation.

Everybody getting the kids ready for school and all that.

Everybody just getting back.

Everybody getting ready to propose out there.

Everybody getting back to work.

Let's go, let's go.

Hey.

I mean, audio numbers is up.

Love and devotion.

Love and devotion is.

Gotta let this rock for a little bit.

I'd like to know.

Wait a minute.

Hey.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Hey.

Don't rock the boat, please!

Don't push the hey!

Don't rock the boat, please!

Hey!

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm having too much fun.

I'm having too much fun.

Yo, if y'all not here to have fun, please leave, yo.

I want to be as immature as possible.

Well, you gotta be careful.

We're a little light.

Well, that man.

You know how we good.

Say Von to pull up.

Shout out to Sayvon.

Dude, Erickson, Alex back in this moment.

What's up, what's up, what's up?

What's up, bro?

You're about to listen to the most immature broadcast that you could possibly find in spite of what you think about Mark Lamont's addition to this broadcast.

He might be the most immature one up here at Titans.

Yo, he's using us.

He's honestly using us.

To rebrand for the immaturity?

No, he's hiding.

He's hiding.

And I know what he's doing.

I got him.

I got him.

He can't trick me no more with that shit.

Let me keep this applause going for the best crew in the universe.

Stop playing with us.

We here.

We here.

What episode is this?

855.

And Flip.

And Flip and Flip.

And Flip.

Flip is here too.

That's my guy right here.

Stop playing.

Check out all that content that he dropped on YouTube, especially day two.

Look at day two first.

I'm going to watch that.

That's the day that slow motion out.

That's the day that Ish spoke.

That's the day Ish spoke.

That's the day they let Flip inside of what they had going on down there.

Oh, the first one was outside.

40 minutes outside, just, you know, he didn't.

Wait, for tickets, yeah.

Didn't have his ID.

Somebody wasn't answering the phone.

Thank God for Graph.

Oh, shout out to Graph.

The Graph to Terrence J connection.

It's like a baton.

Yeah, no doubt.

Yeah.

What episode is it?

855.

Yeah, I'm on.

What just presented by?

I'm on total bullshit.

I'm down with you.

Yeah.

I'm on total bullshit.

Introduce the show so I can turn on.

I'm being immature.

Come on, don't start crying.

Let's just have a good time.

I saw too much funny shit to not shoot.

I'm down.

What episode is this?

855.

855?

It is 850.

Welcome to episode 855 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by a few, by Power, by PrizeFix, Prospects.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here, host Joe Button here with Gang.

Gang is here, some really amazing people to my right.

Big Queen,

fresh from Atlanta.

Yes, sir.

Next to him, Big Ish, fresh from Atlanta.

Atlanta boys.

Oh, the Atlanta boys.

Next to him, our good brother, Dr.

Mark Lamont Hill, fresh from somewhere.

Somewhere, I'm sure.

Yeah,

somewhere.

Abolitionist movement.

Some secret.

Secret society shit.

Secret black shit.

I got it.

Next to him, big parts, fresh back from PR.

Poe is here.

Corey is here.

Erickson is here.

Savon and Tan are here by remote.

Last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.

How's everybody doing?

We're doing well, man.

Amazing, man.

Well, well.

Just got back from Atlanta.

Invest Fest, man.

See my man Ish in action.

One of the highlights.

I'm pretty sure that we'll get to it later.

No, the floor is you guys.

Just one of the highlights was Ish.

The floor is you guys.

But Ish was like, I think he would be the highlight.

Yeah, it was.

Nah, nah.

There's a lot of other highlights there, but Ish was an important highlight.

Okay.

You know, watching him in action, watching.

You got there what?

You got there Friday?

I did.

Okay.

I did.

Watches Ish accept his celebrity.

Did he accept it?

Kind of.

Really?

You know what I'm saying?

He tried to act a little shy and shit like that.

And then, you know, it was just great seeing him in this bag.

He tried to act shy, but people love Ish disgusting.

I came in there looking for, I want to find Ish.

Where is Ish?

They showed me where he was at.

He had people surrounding him.

He had security.

Yeah, not only that, he had his own little crew.

And on top of that, he helping people out, too.

I ain't gonna get into that, but he's a good man.

That's true.

He's a good man.

And then he went on stage.

Oh, so he was helping people before he dropped the streets.

He was helping people before he went on stage.

I mean, he was just there.

A lot of content creators, you know what I mean?

And it's just.

Like giving advice?

Just giving advice, telling them, like, yo, I I got you.

Don't worry about this and shit like that.

He was hanging out with his homegirl, Mandy.

He was with her a lot.

She was Mandy.

Was she like a supportive role?

Like, what was she for you?

PR?

Management.

Was she a PR?

I wanted to get down to the.

She was like, oh, I can't say.

She was on you like white on rice.

I thought she had your bags.

I said, oh, shit.

I need to know what happened, nigga.

Yeah.

I saw that.

Yeah.

Joe, you know what what I saw.

That's my nigga.

Shit, shout out to her.

No, very supportive.

Simba was there.

I mean, people surrounded Ish.

They were supportive.

They motivated him.

But

that was the crew.

That was the crew.

That was Ish.

Manny.

On day two of Flips thing.

Yeah.

That was the crew.

It was Ish, Simba, and Mandy.

Y'all did the whole event together?

Like, in terms of just moving around?

Three amigos?

Nah, not really.

Well, the shit was 25,000 people.

The shit, for the most part, is expensive to most people.

So for you to get around and move around, you got to kind of have a couple dollars

or have

attachments.

So Mandy spoke last year, but she didn't speak this year.

So she hit me.

You know, you need a band.

So she had no business there this year.

I don't know what she did.

It was good seeing that.

She's asking a question.

I have no idea.

Don't shoot at me.

I can't answer that.

Did she speak this year?

No.

Anywhere.

Anywhere.

No.

Outside?

So you need to all-access shit and all of that.

So you're in Mandy.

I know.

So I had an extra band.

Oh, okay.

Mandy happened to be right there.

Huh?

Mandy happened to be there for the extra band.

No, she called me and was like, yo, nigga, I need to get in there.

I need to freeload off for you to.

That's my nigga.

For sure.

Okay, wait.

So much.

No.

Okay, so Mandy was outside sweating.

She wasn't outside.

She's outside with Flip.

Wasn't Flip.

You should start.

The graph was nowhere to be found.

She was outside with me.

Mandy was outside calling everybody in her phone.

One person answered you.

Left the stage, came to the front, gave her something, and then y'all was cool.

All right.

Thank God for that.

As I was saying, so I had all access passes.

I had two extras.

I gave Mandy one.

Nice.

And, you know.

Who did you take it from?

You were supposed to give it to someone you dubbed up.

A.B., I think, right?

Is AB?

No, no, no, no, no.

Being that you

were talent, so they gave you a plus one.

So

you get two bands.

Oh, I see.

So, who got the other band?

Nobody.

You could have given it to me.

We just had it just in case.

My own band.

Watch out.

Watch out.

Oh, God.

My own band.

So why?

Wasn't that you were outside?

No, he told me about the night before.

The night before you did from Little Five Points.

No, no, no, no, no.

Was he a little five point?

I don't know.

Did you go to the pyramid?

No, he was broadcasting from the squats.

Day one, he was broadcasting from Copper Cole.

Listen, I was like,

Day one was different.

You know what I mean?

So, day one, yeah, I went to the party.

I went to the first VIP joint.

I got there.

I realized that when I read the documents that they sent me to the email, I didn't have my ID.

I dropped it at the Airbnb.

So, I was on camera saying, Yo, Jay, I don't have my ID.

So, let me call somebody because I'm not going there on camera so they could turn me around.

So, they sent somebody to get me.

That's how that went.

It was dope.

It didn't go like that.

It went exactly like that.

Hey, Joe, why don't you break it up?

It didn't go like that at all.

Troy, it went absolutely.

And

now I'm done.

Don't come up here lying.

Yeah, I didn't.

Don't go outside and be famous and popping and then come back here and I get a bunch of lies.

Don't fact me to death neither.

Enough of this shit.

Y'all niggas this weekend was funny.

I don't give a fuck about these facts and mature shit.

Okay.

It didn't go like you saying.

All right.

It was way funnier than that.

It was.

You landed on the street in your pod outfit.

Facts.

Didn't walk up to the venue.

You didn't look like you had cologne on or none of that.

At all.

Well, that's cologne.

But you didn't look like it.

Got it.

You didn't go close to the venue.

You stood across the street.

Yes.

Like parking lot pimping days was back.

Yep, that's dope.

And the content creators from Atlanta surrounded you.

Yo, you good?

Is that what I thought?

Yo.

Yo, what's up, Flip?

Big fan.

Wait, which version of Yo, you good?

You was, I mean, however, Flip wanted to take it.

He looked a little nervous to me.

Okay.

He looked a little nervous to me.

I'm not saying petrified, but he stood his ground.

But them niggas was like, yo, you good?

You just standing.

You standing.

He like, yo, I just came straight from the airport, straight here to support, but I don't have my ID.

So he on the phone, dying for somebody.

He waiting for somebody, but they dubbing it.

So then Graf walks up.

Yes, have my man Graf.

Thank the Lord for Graf.

Yeah, shout out to Graf.

Who is supposed to come here soon?

Yeah, he should.

Graf says, yo, man, you stand outside like a bum ass nigga.

Come with me.

Flip stood his ground.

Nigga, don't act like I can't get in.

Stop ever play with me like that.

At that very moment, Flip phone room,

yo, you here?

So now him and Graf walk in together.

He hears Graff with, yo, you're supposed to come to the pod soon, nigga.

Don't know.

Don't pod nothing from outside across the street.

Just go in, handle your handle.

They bring them in, they pass them off to Terrence J.

Terrence J tries to get him right.

Yo, you want

some steak, some champagne, or something?

He's like, nah, I want to walk around.

And then Flip walked around, and I had the time of my life.

He was popping.

Everybody loved him.

They fucked with him out there.

My front of the story is funny.

But once he got in there, y'all too.

Oh, my God.

What do I got to do with that?

Because you're funny, too.

I wasn't there.

The little Instagram,

was at day one, but I landed after flip.

When I saw you, you was funny.

Okay, you say so.

No, we don't try and not be funny.

I didn't say a word, but go ahead.

I'm listening.

We like when you tell a story.

You see, you want us, we can't, like, your vision.

Patreon, I'm gonna play the clips.

I got all my clips.

I'm not gonna beat, we got a lot of topics to get to.

I'm not gonna beat nobody down right now.

Your vision and our vision are two different things.

Your version and our vision is two different versions, but your version is more exciting.

Do you have a headache?

No.

A migraine no

so you shook your head like this all them times

so you did like this all of them times and didn't feel any after effects from it from agreeing so much with the good doctor uh dr cheyen rant oh no okay

i ain't gonna lie i owe you five dollars bobblehead up there boy

yo i owe you five dollars i thought he needed

i thought your neck was nothing because your head needed

Yo, you was right, because we bet, I bet you, we bet $5.

I said, he goes, yo, you gonna go

hold us down, you know, drill down on your positions,

and lead her to a different understanding.

All right.

She straightened you out, boy.

She didn't do anything.

She straightened you out.

She didn't become narrative, Nancy.

You knew it was coming.

You knew you worked with him.

You know you worked with him.

I know.

Why you was agreeing so much?

Because I agree with the stuff that I agree with.

She ain't agree with you.

That's not true.

She ain't agree with you.

That's not true.

She brought smoke right to your little light-skinned baby's door.

You buckled up.

Shake it.

It's Daughty Adam.

It's Daughty Adam.

He had a great point.

First of all, why they said you're from New York?

I don't know why.

Yeah.

And why you ain't correct him.

We have very.

I don't blame you for that.

Who wouldn't do that?

What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna get up there and be like, yo, my nigga, I ain't from New York.

I'm from New Jersey.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I know.

Go ahead.

Did you hear the cheers that they cheated?

No, don't even say nothing to him.

He like, anyway, yes, I like the intro music too, by the way.

It was dope.

What song was it?

Naughty by Nature?

Tevin Campbell, I'm Ready.

Oh.

It was Can We Talk.

And that wasn't my intro music.

That was the show's intro music.

No, they was like, coming to the stage.

Our special guest.

Special ding ding.

I was like.

I was like, why do you give my nigga that music?

Dr.

Bryant.

Wait, no, chill.

I ain't done with you.

I'm going to chill.

We can share.

That is hilarious.

You get up there.

The first thing you do is tell a lie.

Which was.

This is my man, so I be thinking I know shit.

He said, listen, man,

as an entrepreneur,

I understand yada, yada, yada.

He said.

Yada yada yada.

But that's not the important part in this part.

I'm going to get to what the yada yada yada was.

The important part in the lie was.

I know a lot about being an entrepreneur.

A long time ago, I owned a construction company.

I didn't say that, but go ahead.

That's exactly what you said.

You didn't say that's not that.

I've been owning a construction company.

No, that's a good idea.

I think that's what you missed exactly.

I promise you, I heard that.

I heard you.

I heard it finished.

Let me let you pod.

Go ahead, yo.

We should do a rewire right now.

We should do a rewind.

Let's do a rewire right now.

We gotta do a rewind.

I heard the rewind, rewind, rewind, rewind.

I owned a construction company a long, long time ago.

In construction, I could be.

I mean I love the awkward sound

we're playing some magic games though

it's cool I don't think he was lying I think he just misspoke but yeah he was in the moment man he was as up there as a lot of pressure for 20 years yeah dog there's logical reasons for all of this stuff I'm being silly so

my point was still whatever.

But

the point I thought she was trying to get busy with you was when you was like

when you said

society has conditioned men to lead with

not to lead with protection and yeah, whatever she had to say next, I thought she was looking for smoke with my guy.

She wasn't.

She and I were having a separate conversation up there by ourselves, bugging the fuck out.

What happened was for

shit.

What happened was we were supposed to have an hour and 10.

We were supposed to have an hour and 10.

But the programs prior to us getting on, Ray Daniels and Jay White went up there.

And

Ray got to talking.

That's

talking.

You know what I'm saying?

So Ray kind of bled into our time.

And then they had a couple other things that they had already

had scheduled that bled into our time.

So our time got kind of cut from 110

to

30 something minutes.

Oh, damn.

Yeah, it was a lot.

It was a lot.

And then Issa Ray came, was coming on after us.

So we can't bleed into Issa Ray's time.

You know what I'm saying?

And so.

y'all could have yeah

somebody could have anyway yeah not not us

somebody could have not us so that's what happened so me and her up there bugging i'm like oh i want to crack your head she's like go ahead i'm like go ahead i'm like we don't got no time she's like yeah you're right i'm like yo we could really go viral right now this is what i'm telling her I'm sitting there bugging out, laughing at her.

I'm like, yo, we could really go crazy right now.

She's like, let's go.

And I'm like, nah, we don't have no time.

She like, damn.

So that's really what happened.

Because some of the stuff that she said, I definitely agree with.

Some of the shit is common sense and then some of the other stuff that she said I was like

and then even not just that I'm looking at Trill I'm looking at everybody and me and Trill having a

borderline debate behind her back like nigga you crazy like is you wrong like so we doing all of that so it was dope it was it was fly all of them are dope so y'all like had a debate where nobody could hear it yeah kind of because we didn't have time to flush it all out

i'm not doing this with

What the fuck are you doing?

You doing that is going to make me look away.

So I'm not doing this with you.

I'm just listening.

I thought it was good.

I will say it did go to weight.

On Friday in the Patreon, I said it's going to be spirited, etc.

He said, no, it's just going to come back here on Monday or Wednesday and say it was really cool.

You know, she's a really dope woman.

Like, everything you just said, he said word for word, what you were going to say, which shouldn't be surprising.

I just, I expected it to be a spicier exchange.

No, that's not our

show.

It's tonight's conversations.

It's not what their show is based based around.

So change it.

Why?

It's not my show.

Let them know who you be.

No, it's a conversation.

Come on, man.

It's not the issue podcast.

Come on.

So

I conform to who is cutting the checks.

So that's what I did.

I got up there to have a conversation.

And it wasn't, again, we really didn't have time to even weed out all the topics.

With that professional chemistry that y'all had,

I think

the fuck are you?

You fucking grow up, man.

Them niggas was.

I thought they was about to break out in tune.

It was cool.

I thought the same thing.

I'm not saying, y'all should think about a project together, whether it's like a tour, a speaking tour,

a limited run podcast, something where y'all can talk and actually flesh that shit out since y'all actually get along but have disagreements.

Nah, she was dope.

Yeah.

Like, she was cool as shit.

Yeah.

You know what?

No, hold on.

This dodo, as soon as I get on stage, Like it's this big-ass plant.

I got to step around the plant.

So when I finally sit down, he walks across it.

I'm up there.

He's literally like this, pointing, and then him and JR went and copped the squad right in the middle of the aisle.

And was like, I'm like, yo, this guy is insane.

No, but here's my thing.

Because of the build-up, the build-up leading to it, we thought, even on here, we hyped it as, yo, when you go and when you see Dr.

Brian, you're going to turn it up.

I thought you were going to be.

So when I walked and did that, I'm like, yeah, come on, ish.

But then she got the mic.

I thought Red Pill Nation was about to eat down.

The man is spiritual.

I thought the man is fearful.

the neutralizing

down?

Okay.

I swear you was cool.

He was just cool with us.

So, where's neutralization coming at?

I'm just using words.

I'm just saying, whatever it was, though, it wasn't what we set up here, nigga.

You like as you take that?

What?

What you say?

She's a nice.

Dr.

Brian, you lucky.

All right, you lucky next time.

You come up here, right?

Yeah, we should bring her up here.

That'd be dope.

It would be dope.

She'd be dope.

Do you make that happen?

How would I do that?

You know it better than I do at this point.

You gotta connect.

I mean, we all have the same resources.

Okay.

Then I'll do it.

Cool.

I'll reach out.

So, what were the other holidays?

Who else went crazy up there?

I mean,

if you'd have kept talking, though, Mandy would have glocked up.

Yo, Mandy gotta stop acting like, you know what she acts like, I can't say it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what she, she gotta stop.

She knows.

I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

We'll believe it.

Yeah, I got you.

She be acting like the

like, move, bitch.

Yeah, that's what you fuck.

She act like

that.

She acting like you.

Yo, y'all niggas sound stupid.

No, for real, issue.

I know.

Go watch that shit.

I could really go.

Y'all better shut up.

Everybody in here better shut up.

Because I'm going to start saying who y'all little

be, and they look like

my girl, no, mine.

My girl, been my phone.

I ain't shut up there.

You can say that.

I'm taking it.

Thank you, man.

Mine's ain't true.

Mine ain't true neither.

And I'm there.

Oops, sat him down.

Uh-oh, good.

Who did that?

No, I said that.

Turn the mic down.

Shut the mic down.

Shut the mic.

Turn the mic on.

Turn the mic on, nigga.

That's the basic part to get this home.

You think you try to back me down, nigga?

Set him down.

Don't try to back me down.

It's Brian.

Watch your fucking mouth.

I didn't try to do that at all.

Don't try to back me down, nigga.

I said y'all, nigga.

I said everybody in here.

What I'm saying to you.

Yeah, but it was for you.

It was for you.

That's what I need to say.

You taking the gas.

It's all right, bro.

Anyways,

InvestFest was amazing.

Shelter Rashad and Troy and all of them, they put on a wonderful event.

It was 25,000 people.

That's amazing.

I'm talking about a sea of people.

You couldn't see the back of the crowd.

Magic Johnson was the keynote that I probably enjoyed the most.

Magic had niggas in there in tears.

You know what I'm saying?

Niggas said a prayer at the end.

Like, yo, he went crazy.

You was there when Magic was there?

To be that charming, to be that.

Oh, you like him?

Nah, dog.

Yo, when you watch people command the stage, right?

If you watch Joe's podcast.

And how he just, when the camera come on, you become a different person to see that level of

crowd commandeering like he just had them niggas in there eating out the palm of his hands that shit was fly and again this is a black event from young black men that put all this shit together on their own and and and that shit was a success that shit was fire that's amazing

what did you guys wear the next day that the day that i didn't see the outfits i wore a sweatsuit every day

how about you i wore

yeah sweats and a shirt

Okay.

Nigga, what were we supposed to wear, nigga?

Because you was cracking your nigga.

Nigga told me on the internet,

you wore sweats.

What was I supposed to wear, nigga?

Watch your fucking mouth, nigga.

I'm glad that Troy and Richard and Terrence and Stevie J and all parties involved had a good time out there in Atlanta.

Everybody went.

Hopefully you had a great time out there.

Hopefully y'all had as much fun as I had.

No, it was dope.

It was dope.

It was dope.

Ian Dunlap turned up too.

I heard.

Yeah, he

with the crowd, man.

He's real good.

How he said on the podcast is completely different than how he is on that stage.

I was impressed by that.

That turned into a fucking diss.

No, no, no, no.

He was great.

Oh, he's on a podcast.

Now, you might not know somebody possesses that just by the debate up here.

On the air, he's more like.

Like an anvy back and forth across that stage, screaming, going.

Hell yeah.

He got niggas standing up for him and all that shit.

Yeah, he dope.

I know.

He gets busy.

Almost like somebody who does it professionally.

Yeah.

Yes.

But if you've never seen him in a professional element, like I haven't.

That's why

again, I'm attributing it to Joe.

So somebody could see Joe outside and not know that

or the rapper.

Well, you should go to like real black people events, not just the Apollo

cult.

The Apollo's not a real black person event.

No.

You should have a cult ones.

Yeah, not just those.

You should go to InvestVest.

Pop up.

That's your Kenfolk too.

I would love to go to.

You know, next year, y'all.

Yo, you related to black people too, not just.

So I'm related to whoever they want.

That's your Invest Vest.

Benjamin.

Exactly.

Benjamin is Palestine,

y'all.

Go to black events, man.

Call me for a check.

Yeah, no, no, they got you.

You call me book flip too, shit.

But don't know you.

All of us.

No, you.

You be at all the guys around.

Go to black shit.

I'd be black shit all the time.

Look at me, more narrow ass.

Y'all too tense for me, man.

Let me know.

Let's be dot, nigga.

Lose it out.

Let's have the fun.

It was just fun.

My shit was dope.

Flip.

When people come up to you and

you're doing your content creation,

and they're telling you the cause that they're raising money for, they want you to donate.

I couldn't wait to get in front of you so I could tell you that.

I bought the lady hat, nigga.

Yo.

Yo.

I bought the hat.

I think you talk about

the life.

The life.

I bought the hat.

All right, that's it now.

That's it.

Now I got to pull the phone out.

Now I got to pull my phone out.

I'm sorry.

Yo,

Mark, find us some educated shit to move on from at some point.

But I'm in my phone now.

Now I got to at least play that one.

Yeah, yeah.

iPhone memories pop up start showing you your baby mom all types of shit move

get iPhone memories out of here okay no

I know you're gonna find out I know exactly what you're talking about the lady talking about

the mental health part yo all of this shit is funny I should be able to just sit here and play this whole phone.

This shit got mad screens recording screen recorders.

Listen, hey, if you want somebody to donate, ask for a donation.

Okay, so this is future the brand.

So, the merch yourself to merch or what you sell the merch.

That's how you fund the program.

Yeah.

All right.

We burn on donations or

if people want to donate, how do they donate to you?

That's how you get out of here.

You can go to our website, futureformchange.org, or, you know, we're live at a business.

She's so confused.

She likes you donate.

Gotcha.

Future for change.

Sando, what's your name again?

That's how you get out of it.

I'll be back over there.

They're putting it together for something for me.

Who makes it though?

Yo,

I heard all of the lies that

Flip tells when he's outside.

Yo, Flip is such a liar outside to people to their face, but I don't want to hold this broadcast hostage with how funny this is.

Hour three, if we're still recording, I'm back on their ass.

Let's do it.

That's crazy.

What needs our attention the most?

Can I give an apology?

Sure.

Finally, Amani, is Amani here?

Nah, he's not here.

Oh, fuck that guy.

No, I'm talking about you.

Tiara, Tiara Marie.

I told a story about her the other day.

Uh-huh.

And I should have told the story without mentioning her name.

In my brain, we were going to beep it, and I should have made that happen.

Because the story would have been just as funny with, well, maybe not quite as funny without mentioning it, but I didn't.

And she's in a different space in her life, and she's healthy, and she seems good um cleaned him up she didn't clean me up

it's called being a mature adult back

him down

that dm was not friendly

hurt the podcast

oh no she was she was actually um but why did you do that why did i do that like the way that you advocate for women why would you do that to her

poor judgment poor judgment bad influences and i'm talking right now i don't come around you in a culture of

toxicity.

I have no idea.

I didn't know what you said.

I'm really surprised.

First of all, everything the story was accurate and true.

It's just, I didn't have to say her name.

Can't spell culture without.

You know, you should tell us that in the cult.

Seriously.

Yeah.

Oh, God.

Yeah, Bill, Joe, you good.

Joe.

You down with culture?

Hey, bleep that.

Because I ain't watched the doc.

Hold on.

But yes, anyway, Terry Marie, I apologize.

I'm sorry.

You didn't deserve that.

And sincerely, I apologize.

Armani could have got one on the back of that.

You could apologize to Armani, too.

Yeah.

For what?

I don't know.

I was assaulted.

I'm putting it in my case file.

Yeah, look how much nicer the little chair looks now.

Oh, shit.

Good old Stanley Steamers.

Oh, that's less blue.

A little.

It's a little less blue.

A little less blue.

Yeah.

A little sky.

A little sky blue.

I don't know how much content you guys have been able to see.

I want to go with Rampage Jackson's song.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

I've seen it.

Yeah.

It was

crazy.

It was absolutely crazy.

So

for context, because it's two videos, and initially we all got hit with the video of Rampage Jackson's son rushing into the ring for what some of us thought was what we call a work, right?

In Russia, where you think it's just, you you know, part of Kayfay, part of the act, where he runs in,

he slams him,

and dude clearly wasn't bracing himself or ready for it.

He didn't break far, nothing like that.

He just hit the ground, hit his head, this other wrestler.

Then he starts pummeling him with actual punches.

And he was clearly like beating him unconscious.

And he did beat him unconscious.

Other wrestlers came in to hold him back, et cetera.

And some people were like, is this real?

Is this fake?

The wrestlers at some point realized it wasn't and they pulled him out and he was still trying to fight the wrestlers.

So all that happened.

And people are like, what happened?

A little bit later another video comes out where they show an interaction they had prior to that moment prior to that moment uh they were outside the same uh guy uh what's his name stu um yeah

i don't know i'll tell his name his name in a second it's a it's it's alliterative uh with s's um he

he had smashed a can on his head yes um and dude reacted now dude was drunk and he was acting like a wrestler he was basically saying like this is what we do wrestling we're always on we're always in character dude apparently, don't play like that.

And he wanted to fight then.

But by the end of that exchange, they shook hands and said, I understand now.

I get what you was on.

And it seemed like everything was calm, which again made it very strange that soon after he would rush in the ring and attack dude like that.

The latest reports that I have heard, and this is coming from other wrestlers,

said that dude lost multiple teeth.

Damn.

And he was actually choking on his own blood and teeth in the ring.

Psycho Stoop.

Psycho Stoop.

Psycho Stew.

Psycho Stu.

Yeah.

And so, yeah, so it was a brutal event.

And Rampage had to actually say something about it.

They initially showed him watching the video, but he didn't have all the context.

Again, a lot of people thought it was fake or they didn't know why it was happening.

But there's no excuse for that.

I mean, they said that he was concussed.

Roger Jackson.

They said that when he got hit in the head with a can, maybe he was concussed.

But there's no excuse for that.

He got hit with a soda can.

Yeah.

I'm not rolling with that.

Which part?

He got got hit with a soda can, but he got hit with a soda can at a wrestling event.

So wrestlers have a skill to be able to make it look like this is a lot more painful than it really is.

So I'm not going with that.

And when he got hit with the can, he didn't stumble.

He didn't fall back.

He moved forward with the same aggression and serious nature.

He didn't look concussed.

He looked like a nigga that don't play like that.

That's what he looked like.

I'm just saying this.

I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying what the.

Well, listen, and

he apparently was on stream.

Yes

and told the stream prior to that I'm about to do this and like to hear it here.

I'm dead serious.

This shit's not gonna be scripted.

I'm gonna really have to show him like that.

You can't just hit a fucking can on my goddamn face.

I'm really going to hit him.

I'm telling you.

I'm dead serious.

This shit's not gonna be scripted.

I'm telling you.

I know I'll wrestle in the script.

I'm talking about what I'm gonna do to the guy.

So that's him admitting to it

prior to on the stream.

This is this is Rampage talking about it when he finds out which is interesting to say the least.

This is what happened chat

and he's on stream event with his coach

Those pro wrestlers they be just as crazy as MMA guys, right?

The pro wrestling guy

Don't know my son

and he hit him over the head with like a can or beer can or a bottle or something and my son didn't know it.

It didn't know it was coming Didn't know they didn't tell my son and he hit my my son over the head I guess he thought my son was a pro wrestler or something and

Roger didn't react but Roger didn't fight though he didn't he didn't do anything I told Roger not to get punched but still hit my son over here and then he asked my son you ain't gonna sell it

when you in pro wrestling when you sell it's like because it's fake MMA we do real shit

And he said, you ain't gonna sell it?

So when you don't sell, it make the other pro wrestler look look bad.

New Joe Bad.

He don't know

so this motherfucker that hit my son is stupid so in order for me not to go to

jail

i gotta talk to his coat his coach yeah roger wasn't aware roger didn't know what what was going what was going on he just thought he was going and talking to those dudes uh there's more to that clip that clip uh he sounds like he's in defense of his son there were there were some other clips of rampage where he didn't sound he don't condone what his son yeah yeah yeah He put out

a release.

That's my other problem.

Statement.

That's one of my problems with streamer culture is everything is right there.

Like, so now we know you're...

It doesn't allow time for a train of thought.

Like, we see how you feel at this moment, and a lot of people are not disciplined enough to keep it to themselves.

Like, we shouldn't have known this part.

Right.

How hard he went to defend something that is clearly inexcusable.

There's reports going around that say that this man may be pressing charges.

That says that the cops are running an investigation.

It says that the dude is thinking about suing.

All types of reports are going around.

I mean, I would not, but I understand why he would.

And he's not wrong.

If I was choking on my own blood and teeth, I would sue.

Oh, the sue part.

Yes, I was more talking about pressing charges.

But I'd be thinking like, you fucked up my life.

Again, sue, do whatever you want, right?

Again, in the context of what we're talking about, it makes sense to me.

I'd be thinking about revenge probably more.

I'd probably be more irrational about it.

Sure.

Let me ask you a question.

Is Rampage's son a professional wrestler?

He's an MMA fighter.

He's an MMA fighter.

But he's not a professional wrestler.

No.

So he doesn't understand the context that comes along with professional wrestling.

So it's almost like if you smack somebody and you like, yo, sell it.

And they like, sell what?

You smack me, motherfucker.

I'm about to break your neck if I can.

Right?

I kind of think that you can't play with everybody like that.

I I agree.

I mean, beating them to that degree, I'm not defending nor condoning.

What I'm saying is, if you smack somebody in the face with a can, we don't know if the can was full.

It was full.

You could see it spray.

You could see it spray.

It was liquid.

That ain't easy, my nigga.

To bust a can on somebody's head, you got to hit them hard.

It sounds like you're playing both sides.

No, I'm not.

I'm seeing, I'm playing objective.

I don't have to pick a stance on both sides.

I see how one nigga could get offended by somebody assaulting them and take it out in a manner that we might not beat to that degree.

react and I would say react in that moment right that's what I'm saying but they explain this thing at the end of that exchange I'm eating with the can he literally said I understand now he he said he was cool they shook hands yeah he said I didn't know that that's now that he said now that I understand what y'all do That's the part that we're calling

it egregious.

So now for you to get on your stream after y'all explain, sat down and had that understanding to say y'all fuck him up after this.

And then running in the ring.

He's running in the ring while someone is working.

Yeah, you're running.

We're not into y'all shit for no more.

You're done that for prop.

And also,

if you want to fuck him up, fuck him up face to face.

No, fuck him up right when he hits you with the can.

That's number one.

But I'm saying, even if you're going to run back in the ring later, be like, what's up?

Like, you don't sneak him.

Dude, didn't sneak you with the can.

Dog.

I went down a rabbit hole of Rampage Jackson's son.

He don't look like the son to pick on.

He is not.

Like, here's a story of Rampage on Joe Rogan.

I think this is Joe Rogan, talking about his son punching him in the face.

Just so we clear.

Punching him.

So I guillotine.

This is good.

We already got in a fight once.

Oh, really?

Two years ago?

Yeah.

He sucker punched me.

Oh, I saw the slap.

Was that bad?

And what'd you do?

Did you slap him on his head?

Oh, yeah.

That motherfucker

that day.

Yeah.

I don't play this.

We fight three on one, though.

Two big bitches came out the room, too.

Levi alone.

No, you know what?

I felt bad about kicking his ass that day.

And to this day, he's the only person I ever guillotined.

I'm only playing it to show the mindset

of somebody that I didn't want to keep punching him so I guillotined him and he wouldn't tap out.

Oh, you put me asleep?

Wow.

Come when he sucker punched me he almost rocked me and it was right by like a I got like this 100 year old door that turned to like a table.

I'm like 200 pounds.

If I would have hit my ass I would have died.

That's crazy.

He's not going to want me to do it.

See, this is some fighter culture type shit.

All I'm saying is this is not the father-son combo that I want to have

to fuck with it all.

Yo, you be in Walmart and like, what, nigga?

Go get your father.

A lot of, real quick, people are mad at the wrestler RVD because he said he stands with Raja.

And a lot of people are mad at RVD.

People are idiots.

You know, he said that he stands with him after seeing what he saw that he is taking his side.

That's fucking ridiculous.

I think if he had whipped his ass when he smacked him with the can, I would be probably on the side too now knowing now what I know that you premeditated it you didn't act in the moment all that other shit is different, but stop playing with people bro.

Everybody not mentally well again, and I'm not defending Psycho Stew either, but dude Psycho Stu was clearly drunk and he thought dude was a wrestler and that is how wrestlers fuck with each other.

That's what I'm saying like and you were in a camp of wrestlers.

But my thing is even as an MMA fan wherever you at you can't almost kill someone.

Right.

Right.

But especially if you know MMA culture.

That's my point.

In MMA culture when you tap that's it.

You can't beat somebody unconscious and then mount them and beat the shit out of them for another 35 punches.

Even in MMA, there's no place where there's a lot of people.

There's no way where you can do that and just, hey, thing, be cool.

Oh, he slapped the beer cat.

Nigga, I don't give a fuck what he did.

You can't do that nowhere.

I think

kick the streaming service.

They banned him.

No pun.

Yeah, I was about to say, I think kick kicked him.

Yeah, they banned him.

They banned him.

They banned him.

And we'll see what's to come of this.

But looking at that,

I was looking at that as a dad.

Like, that's gruesome.

That's gruesome.

From whatever angle the dad is watching, whether you're the father of the son that's doing the beating or the father of the son of the guy that the father, the son that's taking a beating.

It's horrible.

It's horrible all around the board.

There's a lot of people coming for

Stew, which is

good.

Mr.

Beast, and a lot of people, you know, offered to cover his medical beats.

You know what I mean?

Mr.

Beast like Batman.

I'm just happy.

You know,

I don't know, Mark, if you saw this, I don't think that they made it a black and white thing.

It's just a human thing.

I don't think it's a black and white thing at all.

I think the problem, I just think wrestling culture, MMA culture

more so than boxing culture.

Yeah.

Feeds some of these attitudes and some of this energy.

And there's a lot of people who are just like off, like just unchained in their violence.

And I think it's unhealthy.

And that's why I think about it as a parent, because you talk about father things.

I think about as a parent, even if you want to introduce your child to self-defense, you want to teach your child how to fight, you also have to teach discipline and restraint.

Yeah.

You can't just go around beating the shit at everybody.

Yeah.

I agree.

Like the MMA fighters, I know they should have more tolerance than the average person.

A lot of them do.

Like a lot of people that really are deep in their martial arts bag, they really be like, yo, dog, leave me alone.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, until you really put your hand on me and I think you're trying to hurt me, then I'm going to just let go.

Right.

But most of them really will, they walk away from talking more than the average person.

And then they Even when Rampage is now was talking about his son, when his son punched him,

you don't want to choke your son out.

But my point is, there's a way that that's still a form of restraint.

A guillotine is still a form of restraint as opposed to I just pummeled him

for 20 minutes.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You restrain somebody.

If you can defend yourself well enough to stop somebody, then you hold them for the police or you hold them to

you hold them to subdue them and you get the fuck out of there.

You don't hold them there.

I hear you.

As a black man in this country, if you're running around looking like it's going to take nine and ten people to restrain you.

yeah you know where that comes you know what comes I'm not I'm not saying it but

that looked nuts it looked nuts that look that that looked nuts yeah I'm glad dude was alright though he was just on him unconscious just beating shit out yeah because he slammed and again like you can

wrestling rings if y'all been in wrestling rings wrestling rings are like you can drop an egg on it yeah

but if you aren't bracing yourself or you fall back like this and don't have like a breakfall, you can fucking, you can break your neck.

He was unconscious just from hitting his head.

He was unconscious from the fall.

Yeah, just from the fall.

That's what I'm saying.

Really?

He was already unconscious when he met the fall.

He couldn't move.

He didn't defend himself.

This wasn't a fight.

This was an unconscious person that he mounted.

He was a fucking shit in the face.

Yes.

He basically powerbombed him and then mounted him and started beating the shit out of him.

I counted.

I lost count.

It might have been 14, 15 punches.

It was close to 20, yeah.

Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

Dude lost all his teeth and I think he broke his mouth too.

That's what I'm saying.

Man, this kid is strong.

Like, this nigga work out.

And I'm trained.

It ain't me or you hitting somebody.

It's somebody that knows how to.

Well, I trained too.

Don't keep putting me in you.

Here we go.

You trained in combat?

Yeah.

Tybo.

You're a black belt, right?

Tybo.

Don't start that shit, man.

Tybo combat.

If you're a black belt, I'm trained.

I'm trained in fucking Tybo.

I would pay to see

a little celebrity boxing match between you two.

How much would you pay?

I pay a lot.

I think the fans, you put that on the tier.

I bet you

you make way more money in the basketball game.

Who would?

You heard what I said, right?

See, but I can't give that.

They got a little jokes.

Y'all got little jokes?

Y'all got little jokes over there?

You ain't hear what he said?

Yeah, he will make more.

I heard what he said, but I'm just saying, I want to laugh too.

You ain't hear what he said?

I shouldn't have just said that.

You heard what he said.

You ain't hearing a joke.

Boy, y'all can kill a joke.

Boy, you guys.

Suspend talent we have here.

I don't play with my hands.

The same advice I'm giving MMA fighters.

I respect that.

I'm the same way.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't play with my hands.

No, I mean, like,

I don't like to play fight.

I just don't like this thing.

I don't fight it every day.

We're going to work out.

No, no, but I'm saying, like, I don't play fight outside.

Yeah, like, I got to be a slap boxing with drawers.

I just don't like this kind of thing.

You ain't never seen me do that.

I didn't say a word.

Yeah.

It's a theory I have why you wouldn't do that.

Oh, shit.

He's told you.

He fucked up.

Not at all.

Not at all.

I don't think that at all.

I think just the opposite.

I think Mark comes around here and tries to play this academic, intellectual nigga, just for his opportunity to show you that I'm not just an intellectual academic.

Not at all.

Nah, it's not even that.

I know, dog.

Well, there's nothing you can do.

You're the intellectual academic, man.

And I'm comfortable

to get out of that.

And I'm comfortable with that.

No, and I want him.

I think he be waiting for niggas to think, oh, you nerdy ass nigga.

That's what I think his dream is out here.

Oh, Mark Lamont Hill is on Sunset, putting somebody.

Yeah, I think that's what he is.

You think he practices that shit in the mirror and runs down the scenario?

Yo, you punk-ass nigga.

Amani changed the name to Sunset.

Yo.

Let's go, yo.

Let me stop, too, because they're going to really fight one day.

No, we are not.

They're going to say it's my fault.

Joe, remember?

They know the the episode that you fucked up on.

Remember, 8573,

he said,

Sucker dick.

Uh, what else we got?

What else we got?

What else we got?

I finally saw.

Oh, speaking of apologies, I told you, I heard from Tamara.

I also heard from Jesse Smollett yesterday.

Uh, he sent me an evidence file.

I meant to get on YouTube because, in one of of these episodes, you did say that Jesse Smollett is your friend.

He is.

But I think you use the friend word like girls that go to Miami and share the room.

No, no,

I love Jesse.

I do.

But everybody's your friend, so I don't know the nature of friendship.

But if Jesse is your friend, I would have gave you a message for him long before he sent one to you.

And I don't know if he just sent me this so that I could have it because a documentary came out or because a couple of weeks ago, I was talking, we've been talking about the case.

Sure.

I didn't get a chance to respond because I I was working yesterday but you didn't read the case file I did not

I did not of your man yeah no not yet I will I will but I it's funny because the day he sent it was the dad watched half of the documentary no it's funny for a lot of reasons it's very much

but I watched the second half of the documentary last night and I you've seen the whole thing now right hell no Oh, are you kidding me?

You watch everything, especially this kind of shit.

I wouldn't watch that.

Believe me, I wouldn't watch that.

You need to watch it.

I can't wait to to watch it.

I haven't yet.

Stop it, Mark.

I would not have said this four to eight hours ago.

I would have said this is a waste of time.

But I promise you, the documentary, he didn't make it.

I thought initially he made it.

Wait, before you go any further, is it important to watch because it's good or is it good?

No, it's important to watch because it's changing people's minds or some people's mindsets.

And leads to reasonable doubt on if he did it or not.

That's why people want to do it.

That's why I'm trying to get clarity.

This is what I'll say, because I don't want to spoil it.

And that's why Mark is up here with the foul.

My man sent me the foul.

Somebody I love.

No, no, no.

This is what I tell you.

I said this before.

I don't believe that his version of events is what actually happened.

You said that.

I said that.

So this isn't like I'm saying he's,

but I'm that doesn't mean he's lying, is what I'm saying.

And when you watch the, when you watch it,

I'll give you an example.

I get what he's saying.

I just know what he's saying.

It's just look, an hour ago or 40 minutes ago, we had a debate about what you said at InvestFest, right?

You weren't lying.

You were just wrong.

So I'm saying, I'm saying sometimes you can have an account of something.

I was wrong in

me saying, yo,

a word.

A misspeak is very wrong.

Watch it for that third.

You talking about somebody that planned out an event that transpired, and he gave a whole recollection of a series of events.

Not, yo, I didn't say

one word wrong.

That changes the sentence, of course, but it's a whole different thing.

My nigga, he went to the police department.

No, he didn't

around his department.

No, they went to his house.

They went to his house.

Yeah.

Oh, apartment.

He still had the noose on?

This is right.

Bro, but listen to me.

I'm with you.

And the police said, take that off list.

Can you take that off?

Cops had to say, yo, I'm getting uncomfortable.

No, but this is my point.

My point in making a comparison just to say that a person can have a, can remember something differently and think they're right, but it went differently.

I'm saying when you.

That's what I just did.

Yeah.

I'm saying, yo, I ain't say a long time ago.

Right.

Cool.

I owned a construction company

a long time ago.

But instead of saying a long time, right?

So the a go is not a whole mapped out series of events that transpired over hours and just hear my response.

He was wrong and everything?

No, no, no, no.

What I'm saying is, when you watch the documentary,

what you might be led to believe at the end is that, well, two things.

One,

there's one perspective that he thinks he's right.

He thinks this thing happened and that he was, in other words, to give you a concrete example, let's say somebody goes and does all that shit to him.

The argument is that he set it up.

There's no physical evidence that he set it up.

So what I'm saying is he may really think he got attacked on the street.

It just, he just, it just was bullshit.

I'm not saying it happened.

I'm just saying he might not have been the one to orchestrate.

See, and this is why I have a problem.

That's why I'm saying watch the friendship.

But this is why I have a problem with your friendships.

Because my friend couldn't tell me that.

Couldn't tell you what.

Yeah.

I got fucking beat up by two Haitians in the street and it didn't.

Nigerians.

They weren't Haitians.

Stop doing it.

They were Nigerians.

They asked me to.

That part don't matter to me.

Shout out to them.

But that's not where I'm at here.

Got it.

You can't tell me that you got beat up up and harassed and hounded and mauled in the street and then that didn't happen like that.

Yeah, let me ask you a question.

Did he also just say it was precisely white?

People were screaming racial slurs at him.

He said that they were white people.

They were

knocking his sexuality and all of these things.

Cool.

If you just got your ass whooped on the street, that's one thing.

But when you start having all of this attention to detail, it's hard for me to now say, yo, you forgot this.

I ain't gonna lie, hold on, real quick.

I'm with you.

So when you watch the end of the documentary, this is what I'm saying, watch the documentary.

I'm sorry, Michael.

I was going to say is that the end of the documentary, there are several witnesses who also say that they saw a white guy.

We got it.

They also show a video.

No, there's also a video of the, when they've traced the people, and there's 10 seconds missing out of the video that the police can't explain.

Right?

That I mean, that completely changed what happened.

Again, do I think Jesse Smollett's version is true?

No.

What I'm saying is

I'm saying multiple things could be true at the same time.

I think the police left out stuff.

I think the police didn't operate in good faith.

And I think there's more to the story than we know.

You should watch the joke.

But do you know the other reason I'm just not going to watch it or have it?

Even the lobby video, you got to see how he works.

But whether he's right

or

the people that think he's lying are right,

at the end of the day, it doesn't matter anymore.

I think

it doesn't matter.

It matters.

I think it matters.

It matters to his career.

It matters to his credibility.

He may not be able to book work

on that.

He's cooked.

He's cooked already.

So, from his perspective, though, if you could get it out.

Goodbye.

Well done.

Donezo.

Well done.

What's the shit to cook fast and filet mignon?

Stick it.

Yeah, stay shit.

Stick the cook.

They do the fast.

He's cooked.

We don't go have a million man march for all of the men who've been wrongfully accused and lost their career.

We would be doing that right now with Mike Beasley from the Pistons.

He got railroaded.

I'm negotiating for 20, 40 million, whatever the number is.

They come out and say, I did something.

I didn't do it.

I get exonerated and now I'm bet mint.

Who cares?

You cook.

Your sister's on a roll.

Empire's off TV.

Like, you just fighting for justice at this point.

No, God forbid.

Fighting for jobs.

The next time you're up at 3 a.m.

microanalyzing his transcripts, it's his transcripts for four hours.

Maybe you can take an hour and 48 and watch the documentary.

I will watch that.

I promise you, you'll be glad.

Again, I went in very skeptical that it was going to be a waste of my time.

It was definitely worth my time.

Jussie, you are a lying sack of shit.

I don't care what Netflix says.

I don't care what those writers say.

You a lying son of a gun.

Lying ass nigga.

Y'all always.

Flip, you saw it, right?

I saw the beginning.

When I saw how you walked in the lobby, how this

shit was.

I said, oh, shit.

I said, all right.

Something might have happened to him.

Boom.

I got flipped.

on my side.

Yeah, actor.

Okay.

All right.

You watch Empire?

No.

You don't think he's quite good?

He ain't Sidney Portier.

Let's just say.

He ain't Journey.

No.

Right.

Guess who's coming home for dinner?

Guess who's not coming home for dinner?

The Menendez brothers denied parole.

Yes, they were.

Both up.

That was smooth.

Some pro shit right there.

Niggas say they want to merge Joey.

How he ride around the gun.

Sound a little bow.

Wow.

It's my son.

Something's really wrong with that.

That was fire.

Thank you for that.

Potter of the month of August, y'all.

Give him a shot.

Amani looked like he's going to win it, but the BC, the bladder cancer, like anybody had.

If you don't win it when you have bladder cancer.

Right.

Right.

That's a last story.

That tweet you put out the other day was fault.

So I had to text him on the side.

Bark is crazy.

Mark is absolutely crazy.

Holy shit.

No, because on the JBTV, they were like, well, we're thinking about Potter the Month, and

we got to give Amani some extra consideration because he is cancer-free now.

And I was like,

I've been cancer-free.

Like, we are.

Mark is crazy.

I read this shit myself.

What the fuck?

What?

Mark

is crazy.

It's crazy.

No, it's not crazy.

There is a word for it.

I figured it out.

I'm telling you, I've been hilarious.

Time.

Mark says mean shit under a veil of

shit that nobody would ever think to say because that's just mean.

Are you fucking kidding me, Joe Budden?

You are mean.

I say shit that no one would think.

I say shit that's exactly what you're thinking.

That's why you fucking laugh.

But I don't say it because I'm not mean.

But you're mean.

And these are my friends.

You talk to these niggas like

just strangers at a bar or some shit.

Who the fuck?

Oh, yeah, I'll get back to you.

The Menendez Brothers, though.

The Menendez Brothers.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

That's...

That might be a good argument for why docs don't fucking matter.

You know what I mean?

Like, these docs sometimes can have you believe in some shit that there's, it doesn't matter.

I think the doc worked.

Yeah, the doc got them paroled.

I think the doc

lended a whole different

level of empathy for them.

Okay.

Because we were up here contemplating on should they be released?

And y'all was kind of swaying like, oh, yeah, I think they should.

But the thing that we have to remember is that they're rollboard.

Sorry, the thing that we have to remember.

Did you watch the docs?

No, I don't have a position on that.

I'm watching Justy and not.

Yeah,

this is a way better doc.

Anyways, I watch it.

They probably have more information than we do, and that they probably, like, docs can be skewed and often are in one way or another, like the Justy doc.

Yeah, there's probably some information that was left out that was important.

My thing was, even if it was

exactly how the docs laid it out for them,

no.

Tell me why.

They still brutally murdered someone who was because they so you don't believe in parole for no Malon Parks'

stance, and I could be misquoting you, so correct me, was yo, these dudes have endured mad shit traumatically, and so this led them down this path.

Okay, and my thing is, these niggas are rich, they grew up in Beverly Hills, they have endured some trauma, but so has every fucking killer in the ghetto.

Every killer in the ghetto didn't just wake up and say, I want to go kill motherfuckers.

We went through, or not we, pardon me.

The killers in the ghetto went through a series of traumas that kind of bred them to be this type of way.

And if we're going to lend empathy to that, the Menendez brothers that lived in Beverly Hills and had all the opportunities awarded to them or afforded to them, then we're going to have to have the same level of sympathy for motherfuckers in the middle of the million.

You use that a lot.

I don't think that money changes.

It's not about money.

I i don't think the opportunity change if you're going through sexual abuse and if you're going through something traumatic in your home money doesn't change that i agree with that the environments doesn't change take take the money out yeah they still lived in better environments and better neighborhoods than a lot of these kids outside that still doesn't change

if you are in your house being assaulted and abused and then the second you step out your 24-story project building to walk downstairs and there's more abuse and more trauma and all of those things surrounding you on the day But you got molested in the mansion, so you do life.

You got molested in the mansion.

I'm not saying that like that.

No, but I'm saying that's how designer roads were.

I was kind of getting on your side until I think the difference is that they lashed out against the people that were causing the trauma as opposed to going out and just committing reckless crimes in the neighborhood.

That's what makes me more.

But those crimes, a lot of times, aren't reckless.

Just because you don't know the backstory to those crimes, because they didn't have a dock afforded to them, that don't mean that those crimes are reckless.

Everybody in the ghetto just not walking up to random people, blowing their brains out.

Let me ask you a question because I'm agreeing with what you're saying.

I I think.

But that sounds like an argument for getting the Menendez brothers mercy and other people too, not for giving nobody mercy.

No, right.

Yeah, but if they're other people,

if that's the case, then we got to be consistent across the board, which we know society at large is not going to do.

Society at large is not going to say, yo, you went through some trauma.

You went through some trauma.

You went through some trauma.

You went through some trauma.

We're going to give y'all a parole.

The Menendez brothers had enough money and influence to even get a documentary to express their case.

Here's my issue with that: is that

society, if society should be giving people mercy in addition to the Menendez brothers, and they're not, I don't think we should punish the Menendez brothers because society has fucked up the poor people.

You see what I'm saying?

Gotcha.

Our advocacy should be to get the poor people out, not to put the rich people in on this case.

Because I agree with you to some extent.

And

my brother, when he got sentenced, I went to the sentencing, I guess, last July, because he had been

in jail for three years before he even got sentenced, before he even got his case, which is crazy.

Which is bullshit.

And we went to the sentencing and I was hoping to get him time served.

He was convicted ultimately of shooting somebody.

And so

we were, there were about three sentences for him.

We were there, me and my wife were sitting there.

And the first guy shot somebody in the middle of the street, broad daylight in North Philly.

No doubt about what happened.

Dude had two previous drug convictions.

He shouldn't have had a gun legally, etc.

Dude basically got six months.

And you know why?

Because he had trauma.

He was in foster care.

He'd been molested.

They named all this shit.

When they got to my brother,

the judge, I mean, read him his rights.

It was basically like, you have no excuse for this.

You had two parents in your life.

You marked it.

You look at my hill, brother.

She didn't say that.

But you being in it might not have.

It helped.

I actually shaved some time off this joint to tell you the truth.

Literally, that's what the lawyer told me because

I was trying to name all his traumas.

I was naming shit like, and this and this, you know what I mean, trying to get that shit down because lawyers should have did that shit before.

But my point is, the court system is designed to say if you're up we give you more mercy than if you're not and if we don't think you have a good reason for doing what you did you're gonna sit more time and he got more time than the guy who did a more brutal crime and my brother had a much better excuse for for his for his situation than what this guy did but because of his background they didn't give it to him and and i'm not sure that that's fair either look it's but but i We we going on and this is not what the show is about.

But there are other instances where people will say, yo, you come from a good family.

So I'm going to give you a lenient time because I see you got a courtroom full of people in here that love and care about you.

If nobody came in here, my little cousin just got,

well, you know, but my little cousin was in the feds and my whole family flooded the courtroom.

And he said, yo, I could tell you come from a situation where people care about you.

You lucky.

You need to thank your family that they came here today or I would have sent your ass up.

So it plays out both ways.

What I'm saying is in the Menendez brother situation, my nigga, no, if we, because they got a doc that lended some empathy to these white boys that committed a heinous act, fuck that.

No, we're not doing that unless we're going to spread that same

sympathy across the board, in my opinion.

Is there any crime that y'all think you should never even be considered for parole?

Yeah.

What's that?

Fucking with kids.

Okay.

Same?

I agree.

What would you say?

Anything?

Now, question, do you mean

you should serve life and parole or you could do 20 years?

Because I would think I would put some sexual assault.

cases in the same thing, but not necessarily a life situation.

But just no parole, no early thing.

You get what you get.

If you get some violent sexual crime shit and you got 20 years you got to do 20 you gotta do all 20.

if you fuck with some kids that that's put your ass on a planet somewhere uh

to never see light daylight again and see again that's interesting because

dog they don't even have enough real estate to do what y'all saying well that's the other part is

but i also know a lot of kids who are molested end up becoming molesters do we have any mercy you know i mean again like where's the

mercy becomes tough right i mean like and i never know exactly where to draw the line i think there's some crimes where no parole parole see fit.

I don't know that I can think of them off the top of my head.

It's definitely a case-by-case basis, I think.

Like, do y'all think the woman that murdered Selena should

be put away for life or not be parole?

I mean, she should get out.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, I think she should get out.

And I think to Ish's point, if she weren't Selena,

we wouldn't be having this conversation.

She'd be out.

You know what I'm saying?

Like,

if you kill a famous person and a beloved famous person,

the courts are harder on you.

They just are because they don't want the backlash because everybody's watching.

True.

Whereas if you kill Joe Blow,

nobody knows when the person comes home.

Nobody knows when the person comes home.

I think we just have to be mindful of when we dissect these cases, especially when it comes to sexual assault or what we say.

That's it.

And

it's a case-by-case thing.

We have to look at things.

Everybody, no matter, no disrespect to ish, like I said, he said, remove that.

I think that...

No matter where you grew up at, no matter how wealthy you are, no matter if you come from a family of wealth, sexual assault, assault sexual assault if you feel like somebody's in the house and you because especially if you have wealth right if the person's controlling the money and everything like that and they do whatever you want and you're relying on that you may feel scared i can't say anything there's a lot of things that come into that point too you know what i mean i can't say anything they control my life so we just have to be mindful of what we say but i definitely understand what you're saying i understand what everybody's saying i feel like it's a case-by-case thing In closing, I do think they will eventually be paroled.

I just don't think that time is right now.

Like,

y'all still still ain't got enough wrinkles in your face.

Y'all looking good.

Y'all young.

Only one of you niggas is balding.

The other one got a full head of hair.

And on the news, like, when they spoke about this, they were asking the correspondent said, well, do you think that these gentlemen will be able to come home and not be a threat to society?

And every time they asked that, the other person said, yes, I do.

I don't think they'll be a threat at all.

I'm so shocked by that.

I think that's an honest answer.

That's why they should be home to me.

Okay,

if somebody blows their parents and i'm not trying to bring it back up if somebody blows their parents heads off with a shotgun at any time in their life for the rest of their life i'm gonna see them as a threat no matter what their parents did

yeah okay

okay that's fair i don't see it that way but i get what's the manner in which they killed them it was not just like they shot them and kept them moving like they

overkill yeah overkill they went crazy because thread thread level just speaks to the potential

huh they went jackson order yeah yeah you know what i mean thread level just speaks to the potential of something we can get off this.

Dog, those same correspondents that they asked, let these have been some little black boys from an inner city that endured all of that same shit.

And I don't think they look at the violence level or the potential violence level of repeat offenders in the same way.

And that's where the money piece comes in and is important.

I agree.

And now it's time for...

Nope, they're going to get me again.

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Yo, is it time to have the Paige Buchers conversation?

They're having it.

What conversations?

They're having it.

It's time.

She's a fucking problem, yo.

No, she's tough.

She's a menace, yo.

I mean, people are saying that she is who people think Caitlin Clark is.

Those people are...

I don't believe that.

I'm still team Caitlin Clark.

She's fucking insane.

But Paige is better than I thought she'd be.

And she definitely is having a better rookie year, I would say, than Caitlin is.

I think Caitlin's a better player, a better playmaker.

There's some things I like about Caitlin more.

But Paige Bukits is a fucking problem.

And I think

her injury her senior year at UConn sort of skewed me a little bit.

I wasn't sure she'd ever recovered from that, which was my concern, but she's killing it.

Shout out to her.

When it's all said and done, Paige could 1,000% end up being a better scorer than Cece.

Absolutely.

Yeah, but Caitlin Clark game and dynamic is not predicated at all on scoring the ball.

Or athleticism, yeah.

My nigga, she's throwing 90-foot bounce passes to people.

She's hitting people in the face with the ball they couldn't catch.

She controls the game in a different way.

Paige put the ball in the bucket.

I don't even know if she does that better than Caitlin Clark, but she's tough.

We're going crazy.

We're going crazy.

You know her averages are outside of a 44-point game?

No, I know she scores in the mid-range and Cece don't.

I know she shoots a three the same way Cece does.

It's cool, though.

She does some things better than Caitlin Clark to me.

I think she's a mid-range scorer.

I think she goes left better.

I think

she can create her own shot a little bit better in terms of

there's some things she does better, but I still think Caitlin Clark's overall a better player.

She's not a better defender.

Paige is also a much better defender than Caitlin Clark.

That ain't never been Caitlin's ministry, though.

There are people having that conversation.

Yeah, I won't be the one leading charge, but there are people that are having that talk.

And I just want to shout out because earlier in the year, and even last year, I was the one of the people that said Paige wasn't going to be close to Caitlin because I honestly, I didn't think she'd ever get her foot speed back.

I didn't think she'd ever be able to score as dynamic because of that knee injury.

And also, again, shout out to Angel Reets,

who's turned out to have an amazing second year.

Her sophomore year,

her sophomore pro year, her second pro year, has been getting better than a lot of people anticipate.

I've always been a fan of hers, but I'm really impressed by the year she's having.

Again, I think people are overstating where she is to Caitlin Clark, which I don't even want to compare it.

I'm just saying that's what people have been doing.

Marshall, just because we did the prize picks, you don't have to go into your

opponent because you care about this shit more than

you know what?

It seemed like the best chance to get some WNBA.

I didn't want to do it after, you know, we were talking definitely.

You could go home and talk about it with your wife.

My wife could go home and talk about it with your son.

My wife watches the pros.

She watches the men's.

I think I'm not watching this shit.

Come on, let's cover Snoop Dogg's comments.

Snoop Dogg's comments, he's under fire.

Whatever that means today.

Snoop Dogg made some comments about taking his grandkid to the movie to see, what is that movie?

It was a kid movie.

Lightyear.

Huh?

Lightyear.

I can't hear you.

Lightyear.

Lightyear.

Lightyear.

Lightyear.

And he said that in the scene, two female characters had a baby.

So he said that his grandkid in the movie started having a...

I had the clip.

Why am I saying what he said?

You ain't got to do a mug.

Yeah, I don't.

Listen, whose side are y'all on before I get the clip?

I got to hit a clip.

No, you don't.

You can pick a side.

Or you can flip-flop like you did with Cheyenne Bryant.

Or like you do traditionally.

You can flip-flop.

You can flip-flop.

You can start calling your flip-flop.

Like you did with Dr.

Shaw.

You better get that rewind button real, real, real comfortable.

I think everybody needs to rewind.

You can get your fucking face off.

The rewind button is for everybody.

No, but then you do it.

It's for everybody.

But when we do it to you, you be like, yo, you trying to get your aha gotcha moment.

Oh, well, hey, when you do the rewind with me, it ain't going to come with a bobblehead action toy.

I know.

It's going to come with a, it's going to come with back, it's gonna come with a nigga backtracking on a treadmill, running backwards with some changing attitude.

What happened was, I know, that niggas is crazy, bro.

I'd have smoked her boots.

So you up there making friends.

Let's see here.

What?

You too, nigga.

You a bitch, too.

For doing what?

You said you a bitch as in.

Also, you said two.

What makes me?

Get your fucking words, nigga.

Nigga, I got this.

I I got this, nigga.

This nigga crazy.

Breaking news.

Breaking news.

Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift announced their engagement on Instagram.

Paul's what?

That has to go to WNBA territory.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Congrats.

What does that do for Travis Kelsey Fantasy Owners?

Oh, it's a dub.

He's been winding down anyway, though.

I think this might be his last season.

I can see that.

This might be his last season.

He might get some retirement tuds.

I think them niggas was hurt all season.

Snoop.

Snoop.

Honestly,

what was the movie?

With

Buzz Light.

Sorry, sorry?

Not that one, but the Spooky.

Oh, the new Buzz.

The Lightyear.

I think it's the Lightyear.

Kiki Palmer is in that movie.

Okay, okay.

Plays like the daughter.

That was your first mistake.

We watching it,

and...

The lady, which is Kiki's mama,

they move on into the space years.

They move down the line.

They're like, man, she had a baby with

a woman.

One of my grandson in the middle of the movie, like, Papa Sloop, how she have a baby with a woman?

She's a woman.

Oh, shit.

I didn't come in for this shit.

I just came and watched the goddamn movie.

Hey, man, watch the movie.

Uh-uh.

They just said she and she had a baby.

They both women.

How did she have a baby?

Shh.

Move that all the way.

I think so.

That's like, fuck me.

I'm scared to go to the movies.

I'm like, y'all throwing me in the middle of shit that I don't have a...

I'm watching it.

That's the clip?

Yeah, I don't think he said anything about that.

That is the clip that everybody's going crazy over.

They're trying to say that Snoop don't want to see gay couples, lesbian couples in movies.

No, he's saying that he don't want to explain,

having to explain to his grandchild, you know, what's going on.

That's what I took from that.

I just don't.

Y'all putting me in the midst of that.

I don't want to explain.

I came here to watch a movie.

I didn't come here to explain sexuality or how a woman and woman could have a baby.

Who should explain that?

Who knows?

I'm just saying, but probably he should explain.

The teachers should explain.

People should explain the whole thing.

I understand what he's saying.

He should explain it.

But, okay.

Should he explain it in the movies?

No, I think you can say, I'll tell you when we get home.

But I think the idea that this movie puts him in a position that he has to have conversations that he otherwise wouldn't want to have is a bit

unreasonable.

But you said that.

A lot of people are saying that.

He's not saying, I don't want to have this conversation.

Or at least I didn't hear him say that.

He's saying, I came to the movie just to watch the movie, not to have to have this conversation right here.

You said this kid wouldn't stop.

When you hear the audio, first, when you hear the audio, it is a different tone in

what you read.

It sounds much more playful than what I was reading, the outlash of a lot.

They're trying to hang him.

Yeah.

I wouldn't hang him for this.

Again, I read the verbates, I read the transcripts, and I even reported on it, you know,

what the responses were.

I didn't necessarily offer a take on it.

I just offered, offered no understand you know um hearing him it does give some more context right he's obviously laughing he's more saying like i don't want to talk you know like you ask me questions i can't answer in the movie i still think it's irresponsible i think i think we have to talk about that a little bit different and i think part of it for me is who snoop is snoop is somebody whose entire career has been built around saying and doing things like this can't be the first time your grandkid asked you some that made you uneasy if i'm sure your kid's gonna hear the chronic at some point i'm sure you're gonna hear doggy style at some point and you're gonna have to explain that shit too like you know you we're gonna have to do some explaining around yourself much less and your career right much less what happens in this movie so that's not fair i don't i think it is that's not fair why you you explaining doggy style and chronic is something that you did that you can explain to somebody where i was a kid will bump into the cartoon pixar movie before they bump into doggy style and chronic even if they not if it's your kid no no no look even if they don't but you can explain why you wrote these lyrics or why you said these things explaining that versus explaining society at large and its evolution is two totally different things and i think one is easier to to do.

I see.

I think it's much easier to say, you know, women have babies sometimes than explain bitches ain't shit, but hoes and tricks.

Look at what he lets and suck the dick.

I think it's much easier.

Again,

no, but I would explain, I would want to explain my words right where I'm going.

Look,

I think that's subjective.

He's changing the argument, too.

I think that's subjective.

You think that that's the position he should have taken in the movies?

No, I said, I think he should have said,

we'll talk, I'll explain to you after the movies

I'll tell you later.

I think you could say it in the way that you just said it sometimes women have babies with women.

I think it's actually leave it right there.

Right.

And then say we're talking more after the movie.

I don't think it's that complicated to explain the process very quickly.

How many times y'all been in a movie with a kid?

A lot.

A lot.

I have three.

He said that his initial answer was what?

Because he had an initial answer and then his grandbaby was like, no, no, no.

That's what I'm saying.

Sometimes a kid is persistent.

In the movies while it's silent and nobody's supposed to be talking.

I think he was putting a lot of emphasis on that, not really him having to teach.

In fairness, kids or young people or sometimes even your girl in the movie theater will ask you questions that you have to explain and you don't want to explain, period.

Whether it's about sexuality or just something in the plot line that they missed.

And remember, I said don't hang them for it.

I just said I think it's irresponsible.

Because of what projecting that message means out to the world.

I understand the dynamic of wanting somebody to shut the fuck up in the movie, whether it's about sexuality or the plot line or whatever.

Like, I get his, that's what I say.

When I hear it, I'm a lot less bothered by it.

I think that's an even funnier bit, really.

Like, having to explain some dumb shit in the movie, regardless of what it's about.

Right.

Right.

But I wouldn't, but that's irresponsible to say in the interview because of, I mean, this story, this conversation we're having right now is exactly why.

But what's wrong with the conversation?

Not the one, not the one we're having.

But this is the conversation, not the one we're having, but what we're having about Snoop that was going on when Poe's, the TV show, are you familiar?

When they started putting certain shit on TV every day, yeah, and when they started making certain comic book characters be gay, I mean, there is the some some and I'm

again, I don't really

like doing this no more, but what's wrong with him having that opinion if that's his opinion?

What opinion?

If, if he, if I'm not putting words in his mouth, he doesn't want to explain that.

If he doesn't want to feel responsible for explaining that to his grandchild, or he feels that it puts him in an uncomfortable place.

That's your mom and daddy job.

Or, dog, it's just he could feel uncomfortable.

There's nothing wrong with him feeling uncomfortable about tough conversations.

Again, I agree.

I agree.

You have a right to feel that way.

What I said is the irresponsible part for me is

him saying it aloud.

As Snoop,

forget about his history.

I'm talking about Snoop as a superstar person who is going to make the news headlines and it's going to create all kinds of misunderstandings.

That's what I meant by the conversation we're having is that we're trying to parse out what he meant, right?

Or other people are trying to parse out what he meant.

I don't want to say nothing where people can parse out, have to parse out what I meant when the worst interpretation is one that has seen as harmful.

Like that to me is just irresponsible.

Just don't do that shit.

Audience, this is a good time for me to tell y'all that Mark still has a little smoke with Snoop over that Trump stuff.

No, not at all.

Not at all.

I disagree with him on it, but like,

I love Snoop.

Well, I mean, this can't be any more irresponsible.

Oh, that was way more irresponsible.

That was way more irresponsible.

I think it takes away from the authenticity of a person.

I think that that's what happens now with podcasts and all this other shit.

We know what we should say, we know what we shouldn't say, and we're just saying stuff to appease people, right?

And then somebody else might really walk a different lifestyle, but I can't publicly say it, so I'm going to just lie on camera.

No, my thing with this is it kind of goes, I watched the Patrice O'Neal argument you guys had about the Don Imis thing back in the day.

Oh, shit.

And this, he fried you up a little bit, but this kind of falls in the same category of this clip from hearing it.

I was reading all the backlash online.

This seems like he was kind of being funny and playful.

Silly, so no, it's silly to me.

And like, once we start policing comedy, it gets in a weird place.

Like, it's not, it's not that serious.

I think it's irresponsible for us to call that irresponsible.

Like, that's a strong word.

But you think that he is and has been irresponsible, period.

Yeah,

I think most, I mean, I think, yeah, I think a lot of us have, but yeah, he's be one of them.

Yeah

I was irresponsible last week with Tierra Marie.

I mean like I'm irresponsible shit happens.

I'm not I'm not above the fray.

I'm just saying that was some shit he's done is irresponsible.

Walking out with two women on dog collars is irresponsible.

We can say it's art, but it's irresponsible.

You know, like we do irresponsible shit.

Sometimes irresponsible shit be kind of funny though.

Sometimes.

Sometimes it's too far.

Speaking of irresponsible shit being funny, did y'all see the footage of Lil Nas X's

hearing?

I did not.

Tell us about it, Joe.

Please.

He stood there in the, he was in the box or wherever they had him at all.

With the cage.

What he had on, yo.

Butt ass again.

I don't know.

He had on the jail clothes, and he was in the little jail and he was at, you know.

He didn't have the boots on.

Yo, LA, see, this is why I can never move to Los Angeles.

Everything's so dramatic.

They had him back there like he was Hannibal Lecter.

Wow.

They wouldn't, like, because he was behind the door and his attorney or not even attorney, whatever, whoever she was, was in front of the door like he was just a stone-cold killer for walking around naked.

They got to have him in presentative custody.

They got him for assault, too, right?

Well, they slapped a ton of charges.

Yeah, the charges were much more serious than the other side.

Yeah, the slaughtering we had Friday.

Yeah.

A bunch of felonies.

Yeah, four felonies.

Four felonies, I think.

Yes.

Four felonies, man.

They be hitting you.

They overcharge people.

They did this in my girl from power.

The one that played Effie.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they hit her with like child endangerment the other night.

We still don't know full details.

Child cruelty.

I'm sorry, third-degree child cruelty.

Yeah.

But third-degree child cruelty is a charge you get if you commit a crime in front of a child.

So, for example, if you and I got in front of a fight in front of our door, in a fight in front of our doors, we would be charged with child cruelty.

But the problem is when that shit hits the headline,

nobody knows what third-degree from first degree.

So.

Yeah, people think you're over there beating kids.

You know what I'm saying?

So I'm just saying, even his assault charger, a lot of times you get assault charges on police by

even like wiggling when they're trying to lie.

Yo, dog, we said this up here.

Like, yo, fam, that's why the times that I, once I got accustomed, let me take that back.

I had experienced being arrested a few times.

And so I already know what they're going to do.

Like, they're going to kick your leg on purpose.

They're going to snatch your arm on purpose.

They're going to make the cuffs tight on purpose.

And nothing.

So now you just like, if little daddy,

Just give me some McDonald's head to top ball.

Just give me some McDonald's.

If Lil Nas X is high and naked and walking around and he gets put in handcuffs, he's probably going to wiggle a little bit.

Muscle memory.

See, you took it further.

That was irresponsible.

That was irresponsible.

My bad.

My bad, little Nas X.

He's going to wiggle a little bit.

These are really irresponsible jokes.

I hope that he's all right.

Me too.

I do too.

And I hope that he gets the help that he needs.

I hope all of the people that made all of that money off of his run come back and

give a helping hand.

Yeah.

Do we have an indication of what the problem was other than just being inebriated in whatever form it was?

Well, I know he's had his bouts with depression and allegedly depression and self-medication.

Yeah.

So we don't know.

That's why I'm hesitant to make the jokes because it could be really serious.

It looked really sad when he was in there and really extremely unfortunate.

So hopefully he's well.

In times like that, I'd be wondering where people's parents are.

Some people don't have them.

I hope he's cool.

I hope he's cool.

But he looked like he was going through some things.

Shout out to Lil Nas X.

Yeah, for sure.

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else is here?

Y'all want to talk about

your man?

You know your man.

Which one?

Your man could be a few people, actually.

Yeah, yeah, who?

There's a lot of bands.

Your man could be you and Charlemagne hugged up.

That was a crazy pick.

Not crazy.

That was a surprise.

I was surprised.

Surprised by what?

I mean, you know, I didn't know he knew you were, but.

Oh, shit.

No, not like.

He from...

This is.

Yo, I mean enough to be like in the...

You was like in the crew, like y'all was clear, like the way him and Mandy was.

I didn't know.

You ain't fucking with me.

Watch your fucking mouth with me.

I'm not fucking with you.

You ain't fucking with me, period, bro.

I don't know if you knows you, nigga.

I don't want no.

You ain't fucking with me, man.

Period, nigga.

I don't know what that means, but I agree.

Whatever you say, I agree.

No, agree properly, because your agreement be having a lot of little side conversations.

I'm not fucking.

What do you mean when you say I'm not fucking with you?

You're not fucking with me.

Whatever.

We try to make Joker say, niggas know you, niggas know Flip as well.

You saying people know you as much as they know me?

Yes, that's a fact.

That's what I'm saying.

Where?

Where?

Everywhere.

Okay.

And I don't look for celebrity friends.

I don't look for celebrity friends.

I don't look for friendships neither.

Not saying you do, but that's not my thing.

Same.

All right, so we on the same page.

We're on the same page.

So how did the picture look crazy to you.

I was just surprised, I said.

Tell me the story.

There had to be a story behind how you were.

Shout out to Charlamagne.

That's my brother.

I love Charlamagne.

So I was walking backstage.

Not backstage.

I was walking.

And then I saw Charlemagne

and the dude D1.

And then

when he walked up to me, Troy and Richard, they was doing the connection.

He's like,

you said he walked up to you or was he just

walking down the hallway?

He was walking this way.

Got you.

He was walking this way.

Not to interrupt.

Before you saw Charlemagne, where were you you headed i know you said you was walking but i was in a lot of your content you just are kind of walking around yes were you going somewhere i was

because then every time i see you do the walking and then you see somebody and then that's the event like it looks like you're you just are everywhere so you're like i'm fishing it everywhere that you have no business being you just showing up and looking for face recognition

and then when you get it you do the hollywood

okay no so yes So, where were you going?

I saw Charlemagne first when you were.

I saw the video.

I saw Charlemagne first when him and Steve Harvey got off stage.

And he came up to me, flip what up.

That was the first time.

And I introduced him to J.R.

I said, yo, you look good.

Cool.

Now,

behind the shit,

when we was walking, he was walking up.

They let Steve Harvey.

They moved niggas out the way for Steve Harvey.

And I ain't like that.

I complained to them niggas about that.

Like, nigga, I don't give a fuck about that.

Shout out to Steve.

Especially when you had your sweats on.

Yeah, yeah, but I don't care about none of that shit.

I'm still Queen's Flip.

That's why why I was telling them niggas.

Don't be moving me around.

Don't put me with anybody else.

I told them, niggas, I'm going to fry them up, Troy and Richard, about that bullshit that I felt the way about, but that comes later.

So when we were walking, him and D1 was there, and he said, yo, I don't know if you need to be next to me because you may get fined or get in trouble.

I said, nigga, no, I could be next to you.

I could talk to you, nigga.

And that's how that happened.

That exchange happened.

He said, yo, don't come over here and speak to me because you could get suspended.

Yeah, you could get suspended.

Don't speak to me.

I can't suspend you.

He didn't say my boss, but he said, you get suspended.

I don't know if you can speak to me.

And then we had an exchange there, and that's where the picture came from.

What did you say in response?

How did you defend the potential?

I could talk to anybody, and my man support me.

I can talk to anybody I want to.

Is that true?

It's a little more aggressive.

No, I don't support him talking about anybody.

That was a little bit more aggressive.

That wasn't fucking more.

That was a little more aggressive.

I talked to anybody.

Sorry?

I could have told anybody I want to.

That's what I said.

So that was the first, that's the first two.

And then

I went upstairs to go sit down and have a conversation with him, and that's what the whole dialogue was.

Yo, I don't care about these facts.

I'm going to say that's the first time.

I want to hear the funnies.

That's where the hugup happened, nigga.

We was talking about the other.

What was y'all keykeeing about when y'all, when he did the touch laugh, when y'all was touch-laughing and shit?

He was saying that, yo, nigga.

Like little girls in a school book.

That's a playground.

He was saying how much he loved you, how y'all love each other.

That's one, two.

I was saying that I don't really want to talk about my man.

He said, yo, me and your man love each other.

Then I said, how do you feel like you be, how do you feel?

How do you feel that you fluctuate on these lists?

He said, I'm glad that you said that.

And he started to explain that the list that they was niggas was on, it wasn't a fluctuation.

It was no number.

It was alphabetical.

Yeah.

I guess that's what it was.

It wasn't alphabetical, but it wasn't in a number of people.

Yeah, he said it wasn't.

Yeah, he said he think that's crazy.

That, you know, I'm happy you asked that question.

And then we laughed about, I just said, nigga, I can sit here.

He said, I'm not trying to do no interview, nigga.

You didn't ask me to do an interview.

And then we laughed.

That was a laughing moment.

Just laughing.

Did you talk to D.W.?

That was touch laugh worthy.

Yeah.

Because he said, yeah.

Okay.

What you doing?

I said, it's going to be out.

Nigga, it's about the out of 12 o'clock.

Nigga, you've been watching yourself, nigga, and judge, nigga.

And I dare you say something crazy to your man.

And stop acting like you don't support me.

I don't care for how you got.

Yeah.

I don't care how you got these niggas feeling.

You know, you support me in my journeys.

Mark, you got any questions for me?

I've heard enough.

Sasha in the touch lab bar.

Tell me about the touch lab.

It just looked extra friendly, right?

It looked extra.

It didn't look like it was.

It didn't look like y'all were really friends.

It looked like y'all were, you were.

I'm not saying you.

It just.

Like the camera was rolling and y'all changing it.

Yeah, it looked like a camera moment.

Yeah, Yeah, it looked like you was being pawned out.

You play chess?

You know the ones in the front with all the chess pieces, dude?

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, it just looked pawned out a little bit.

Yeah, pawned out.

So I wasn't a rook all night and none of this shit.

Well, you was a rook in another game.

What game?

Basketball, football,

any of those.

They just like pawned out a little bit, but pawns have fun.

Pawns just want to have fun.

Y'all look good, man.

Shout out to Charlemagne.

Shout out to y'all.

Shout out to Mandy.

Shout out to the whole crew.

Do I feel like people are trying to make you and I've been watching a lot of internet content lately?

People are trying to make you and Charlemagne a beat for a thing, and I hate that.

They can't.

People.

They can't.

Well, I mean.

No, he watched the show, too.

I mean, he loved it.

No, there's been a lot of.

I know, so he was hugged up with Charlemagne after you've seen him send him shots to Parks and Mel.

No, I didn't see it.

I didn't see that yet.

He said shots of me?

But it did land like

I'm saying it's been going both.

So what happened?

I didn't see that.

He sent shots at Parks and Mel.

And then the weekend after that, y'all hugged and made content together.

That's phony of you.

What's your man?

You are my man.

When did the shots come out?

Niggas is not like you in watching these niggas move.

That's not important.

I'm not watching this.

So the Koinky thing.

Yeah.

I don't watch these niggas move.

Talk to me.

Niggas don't watch these niggas' moves.

So I didn't know about it, but I did see about it when the community.

You hug up with people without knowing it movies moving.

The community that you run or with them niggas I saw when they put it up.

When they put it on the movies.

You hug up with people without knowing their moves.

Facts.

So they could be doing anything.

I hug up with you, nigga.

I don't know your moves.

Oh, that's peace.

Mark, so what were you saying?

I got nothing.

I got nothing.

Oh, about you.

Yeah, this seems like people who are trying to make like a beef and they're pointing out little comments or pulling interviews, sometimes out of context from Charlamagne and you,

and sometimes not out of context, but like trying to make it into a feud.

I hate that because we were just having this conversation about InvestFest, where right before the event, there was so much focus on the beef and not the fact that these black men are doing this extraordinary event.

It just seemed like it's the same thing here, where I would love to see

part, not necessarily partnering, but just not looking like it's a beef.

I agree with that.

I don't like that that's a narrative that's being painted.

Uh, coming off Invest Fest with all that

he's setting us up,

yeah, he's bullshit.

I'm sure he's gonna be a little bit more.

Coming off Invest Fest with all that, all that financial literacy, all that Steve Harvey, and all these black, wealthy people out there kicking knowledge.

But from now until 2026 and for 2026, if it ain't about, I said this stuff flipped the other day, if it ain't about unity, bringing people together, empowering, encouraging, putting past beefs and tensions to the side, as long as nobody got hurt, nobody died, if there's a way for us to build together, help different communities, empower people, then that's all I want to do.

So I don't want to be mixed up with anything that could be divisive.

tumultuous, anybody that thinks that that's my relationship with them, you are totally wrong.

And hopefully we can mend things and move forward, man.

I love that.

You got that rewind.

I'm all about unity.

You got the rewind, but I'm not.

I'm all about unity.

You think we're going to need that one for later?

Boquita.

Boquita.

Maybe a few times.

I'm all about unity.

I know.

I believe you.

I believe you.

You look like you're in a new space.

And

you guys have helped

by being a bridge.

And if Charlemagne dissed me, my bad.

Like, I didn't know.

I didn't mean to.

You know, my bad, Charlamagne.

Yeah, there's no need for two black people as successful as me and Charlamagne to be beefing now or ever.

Like,

we did that.

Both of our peoples are from South Carolina.

Like, we've known each other.

Oh, they pressed you.

We've known each other a long time.

Oh, that's what happened.

We've known each other a super long time.

They cleaned him up.

They pressed you.

He's got a lot of great positive things going on.

Buffalo Wild Wings.

So do I, right?

Like, there's no need for that.

That's what happened.

I got it now.

They pressed you.

He said he loved you.

Yeah, I love each other, so it's just good.

There's a lot of love there.

It's a lot of hood I heard in Sumter.

They said Sumter's man hood.

His family pressed you.

He was at the Buffalo Wild Wings.

Them niggas pulled pushy shit bonus.

Well,

hey, the same goes for Mandy.

Like the same.

The same goes for...

Like, come on.

They pressed you.

Come on, man.

And what type of friend do you think I am to my friends that I'm going to just continue to have beefs with the people that they friends with?

I'm not that type of friend.

Hey, you good with them, you good with me, nigga.

And

What else we got?

I don't know.

I'm kind of climbing out the bullshit.

I'm trying to get out of there before we can introduce himself.

That's the problem, man.

Trying to be a better person.

And y'all just looking like...

Yeah, that's my problem with Rob Markman.

Hey, everybody that knows me for real know that everything I just said.

Well, you got you an issue with Rob Markman.

What the fuck did Rob do?

No, I don't have an issue with Rob Markman.

You just said that's my beef with Rob Markman.

We do need to rewind, You literally just said that's my beef with Rob Markman.

That's why I was asking.

No, but I don't have a real beef with Rob Markman.

Got you.

Okay.

Like, my beef with Rob Markman is that

he is too cool to get caught up in these beefs.

So how he's handling these beefs or his Drake beef

with the whole

is very mature, responsible, political, journalistic.

Just giving you facts, not saying anything wrong, having a little playful fun.

To be clear, it was also a little shady, but like.

It was journalist shady.

Yeah, yeah, it was.

You may sue me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, hey, so somebody pulled up an old Rob Markman clip of him interviewing Tori Lanes, where Tori Lanes was spending a little Wayne verse.

And I guess he stopped at the end of the final bar so Rob could say it with him.

And Rob didn't.

So Drake comments underneath, says, of course, this goof Markman can't finish the bar.

Rob Markman responds underneath the comment.

Ooh, comment, beef.

Responds underneath underneath the comment and says, what did Rob Markman say?

He said, well, I would call you names too, but you would sue.

And then that was the end of the exchange.

So the next day I go to get my manicure.

It's a good comeback.

That's a nice comeback right there.

It was a body shot.

It was a body shot.

I said one earlier, someone called him Supac.

Supac.

I saw that.

Supac is funny.

That's funny.

Because he also has the Tupac death roll chain that people were saying that he just purchased, which he purchased in 2014.

24 or something, right?

Yeah, no, it said he got it a few years ago.

I know, but I think someone is coming out and questioning the authenticity of the chain that he purchased.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I didn't get that far.

Yeah.

But

so then the next day I'm getting my manicure and Rob responds on his platform, YouTube, and he's like, my response to it, or whatever the capture said.

And I click it, and boy, was this just the fucking cleanest reply that you could do.

And I was so mad at Mark.

I was so mad at Rob Markman.

Too classy.

I loved it.

No, I love love it.

It was shady, but classy.

Why does Drake have such beef with Rob Markman?

That's the thing I don't get.

I don't know.

Because for Drake to be Drake and take the time to actually go into the comments of a random post to come after

the old ass concept.

Right.

It seemed weird to me.

Not to me.

He seems to have beef with the way that everybody covered the Kendrick battle who didn't suck his dick.

Got it.

Yeah.

Okay, that makes sense.

He has a problem if you went to the show and if he spoke to you.

I think he just thinks that people

sided with Kendrick and didn't give him a fair shot.

And that manifests in these stupid beasts like this one.

Yeah, and he's been on that for

since the battles, really.

Maybe before the battles.

Some of the criticism of criticism has been taking place.

I read an article in the New Yorker actually the other day talking about the decline of music review.

in general, music criticism in general, how like in the Rolling Stone or whatever, they used to just fucking bash people and now it doesn't really happen as much because partially at least because of fan bases being so rabid and annoying that it's like it's not even worth that's a good point scathing somebody over and that's a good point and to your point too that the person themselves can now just fire back or now i'm not i'm never gonna do anything with you guys right i'm gonna punish you

maybe i just didn't like your album bro the artists that want you to review their music i feel like you can tell now and the artists most artists don't want you to review their music unless it's positive correct and it didn't used to be like that well i'm not even gonna say that because you could be sitting here i've waxed poetic for years positive and the second you say one thing negative that's the one that they heard that's what i said i said that unless it's something positive well

but they might not even know that something positive is happening right i think a lot of artists just don't want you to review the music when killer mike came up here when jid came up here shit when when Offset came up here, you could just tell the people that, have you heard this album?

Yeah, what did you think?

I'm here to hear what you think.

Versus the people that are playing a different game that don't really care about the reviews.

They want to go to their controlled places

like their streamer that they fuck with or Apple or Spotify or Zane or just whoever they're going to.

Not somewhere that's so

irregulated.

That's why I would love to see Drake, because I actually think Drake is a good interview.

I think he's interesting and smart and funny and thoughtful, but he so rarely now goes to any platforms where he can demonstrate those things outside of the controlled environment.

You know, like he's about to do this.

I know he's about to do this.

Another thing with Bobby, another podcast.

I would love to see him go out.

It doesn't have to be here, although I think it'd be amazing here.

But like, I'm not invited up here, buddy.

Fair enough.

Not invited.

But see, I like the running theme of that.

I like his problem with hip-hop media, and I like hip-hop media's problem with him.

I don't want it to end.

You see, I want some answers.

I don't want no answers.

Yeah, that's the topic.

They're gonna clip me all up.

Let me calm down.

Let me calm down a bit.

I think I've gotten all the answers that I was looking for.

They've kind of manifested themselves back to your point that all the beefs that he's had with, what's my man's name on YouTube that he was firing at poor with the glasses,

Fantano?

Yeah.

Fantano, like he was fired at him however many years ago.

Rob, now, everyone.

But there's no accountability for it.

Like, like, we may get our answers for why we think he did a thing, but I think there's something interesting about saying, Drink, why did you do that?

Why would you pick this person?

Why do you have picks?

Or why did you make this choice?

Or why do you think you won the beef or why do you think you didn't win the beef or whatever the thing is, whatever feelings he's feeling, we get it through the music, we get it through

representation, but we don't get it from him on the platforms where people can ask questions back.

And I just don't like that.

And it's not just him.

I mean, we see that with a lot of big stars.

They just don't go on platforms anymore.

Yeah, but it's different with him because now every day or for the rest of time, it just looks like a music video for Not Like Us.

That's why.

Stay over there with Aiden Ross.

Stay over there with Bobby.

Stay wherever you feel comfortable at, right?

You're still not, that's still a controlled environment.

Yeah, for sure.

But stay over there.

Like, I kind of take offense that he even is calling Rob Markman a goof.

Yeah.

Yes.

Rob markman is comfortable in his skin yes never did nothing wrong and a good nobody just a good dude all around the board that gives a about music by the way loves music loves hip-hop he's that part but if you're gonna stay in the white spaces drake remember back in the day before people would barbara there was a point where michael jackson wasn't doing

you know local radio but he would do barbara walters he would do you know what i mean he still went places where people asked him questions that he wasn't expecting or that he didn't have a that he couldn't control the answer to drake go do that there's a million places that'll ask you a tough question outside of hip-hop context if that's what you want i disagree you disagree with which part that he should do it that there's a million places that'll ask him tough questions oh i i disagree with that disagreement in this current climate i think that if he went anywhere after the year that he just had people are going to ask him hard questions yeah anybody with responsible journalism at least yeah all right well and there's enough of those added that part yeah because he's not going to go sit down with the people i think that he can't necessarily control a narrative and that's what i don't like that's what i'm saying i just don't like that and again it's not particular to drake although although Drake is a big example of it because he's such a star.

But I don't like that in general, how it's changing out because there's so many platforms people pick and choose, and it makes it look like they're on a press run or it makes it look like they're on a media run, but they're ducking all the smoke.

I think that's just where we are.

Yeah, I hate it.

I think it's literally where we are.

And you know what?

Let me not center this so much around Drake.

I'm kind of out of that celeb culture.

Like, I think a lot of these people carry real dark energy.

I'm not in talking to you because of who you are and what you've done.

This is all for Drake now.

This is period.

I'm broadening this.

I'm not with being around some of these people.

Like when you really get into how I feel about these things,

I'd rather talk to y'all.

I'd rather talk to y'all.

I'd rather talk to myself.

Then I believe in all that.

If you see a person who's on the verge of healing, would you say if they did have dark energy, but they're trying to heal, would you change your mind on that and sit down with them?

It wouldn't be just based on that.

Like, and I'm not trying to be nobody's psychiatrist either.

I'm not trying to be nobody's therapist.

If I talk to you and you seem cool and I would like to talk to you again, then cool.

It don't even say that that got to be in an interview.

Like, I'm not

polling people to interview.

That's interesting that you say that, and I believe you.

But the last month, we've had probably more interviews than normal.

And so there are a lot of people who would expect you to be about to say the opposite: that you're trying to get more into interviewing people.

What's your thought process about when you want to interview somebody and why?

It's a lot.

Okay.

Some of it is them.

Some of it is y'all.

Some of it is what's going on up here.

But everybody that has come through here, I wanted to talk to.

Everybody that's come through here, I'm a fan of them.

I would have talked to them if the mic wasn't here.

I guess I'm speaking about the people that I wouldn't speak to off of a mic

and on a mic.

A couple of them niggas that DM me, I ain't open it.

When I'm not there, I'm not even seeing what you had to say.

I respect that.

Way to go, way to get us all clipped up from the topic that we're just supposed to breeze through.

Way to go.

You kept going.

I might edit it out later.

You said no edits today.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, that's true.

You got a busy schedule today.

This is no time.

But I'm going to watch him and Bobby.

I told you, y'all know I'm a fan of Bobby.

Y'all know I'm a

fan of Bobby.

So I want to hear how.

That shit looks fly too, a little.

I like the dry humor shit.

I hope it does well.

Shit, I hope I get some tea from it.

But

yeah, nothing really passed that.

He saw you make the little offer to Bobby and came right back in.

He saw that shit.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Oh, this tea is hot.

This tea might be too hot for me.

I mean, it's got the mugs.

This is the comedian that was murdered, Reggie Carroll.

Rest in peace to Reggie Carroll.

Comedian that was murdered by Cat Williams' bodyguard of the same last name, who is now in custody.

Wow.

Oh, wow.

I didn't hear that story.

Yeah, this is new.

Oh, y'all didn't hear that story?

No.

No.

Reggie Carroll, comedian who has been on tour with Cat Williams,

and this might have been at a tour stop,

was murdered on Cat Williams block.

Some comedians are saying he was murdered on Cat Williams' doorstep.

I don't know those details, but these are things that's being said.

The gentleman, I want to say his name is Trinnell Williams, who police have in custody.

Okay.

Worked on and off as Cat Williams' bodyguard and may have worked that night as bodyguard on tour.

Again, I don't know.

Details are still coming in, but it's a hot story.

Rest in peace to Reggie Carroll.

Reggie Carroll, really loved comedian.

Yeah, there's not a lot of information here still.

Yeah, there's not much.

It was in Mississippi.

It's a scary story.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bam.

I got it.

Yep, thank you.

I got it.

I didn't mean to do that.

Sorry, guys.

You never heard of Joe, buddy.

Here you look and sweet dark guy.

You gotta be big

that I could love you by

in a special way, way, way, way.

All right, what do we got?

What do we got?

While y'all think of it, I'm going to give a special announcement.

I'm going to make a special announcement to her.

I was on Instagram and her was posting.

Shout out to her.

Shout out to her.

Looking as good as could be.

And it triggered me.

Why?

Because she out here looking all good.

I think she's trying to frank ocean us.

I want to put her on the clock.

I think that she's been working.

I'm not saying she has not been.

I've talked to some people that have been in studios with her.

I don't know if there's a timeline on releasing any of this music, but.

When should it start to look like it?

In October, it'll be a little bit different.

Two years ago.

In October, it'll be five years.

Three years ago?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Like, time is flying.

Life is long, but it's short.

In October, it'll be five years for her.

That's crazy.

And I love her.

I love the last album.

I'm a huge fan.

I go see her perform.

She kills it.

Like, as a fan, this shit is starting to get a little sickening when all the people that you love are just going on five and six year hiatuses.

Her, please, if you don't grab that fucking harp and kiss your ass out.

And stand guitar and drums.

And everything works.

Grab all them shits.

Oboe, violin, ukulele.

Yeah, come on.

I don't think it's fair.

And she's looking amazing.

She looks beautiful.

But that's what pissed me off.

That Callie Sun.

That's what pissed me off.

She looking so good that you just know she enjoying life, not thinking about us.

Right.

Fans, what we got to say.

She one of them artists that don't care what fans got to say.

I hate that shit.

Not to say that her last projects were, but

I feel like she's going to have like a masterpiece.

I think if you wait five years.

And if you believe that, and if we're of that belief, then you let the artists take their time.

Yeah, you let them do what they do.

I think the best example of that for me is Erica Badu.

I'm often not frustrated, but I'm often excited for the next project.

And I'm often like two years, three years, four years.

And it's always amazing.

Everything feels like it was worth the the wait.

Even the mixtape,

it was worth the wait.

So I think her is of that kind of mindset where it's not going to be five years and you come out with some bullshit.

Cause that's what I get really pissed.

When I wait four or five years and then it's bullshit,

then I jump off the bandwagon.

She's way too good and affiliated with way too many talented people for some whack shit to come out of this.

Somebody say Chris Brown shit on there or some

collabs.

She's a monster, yo.

She's amazing.

By the way, shout out.

Can we shout out Russell Westbrook too?

Yo, I don't know if y'all saw him.

He and his wife renewed their vows.

Oh, yeah?

Yep.

After 20 years.

He's been married 20 years.

It's 2015.

I think it was 20.

I could be wrong about that.

Did he get married right out of high school or something?

They met in college.

Oh, wow.

So maybe, maybe, maybe it's not.

Let me check the years.

But they renewed their vows, which I think is amazing for a couple of reasons.

One, most celebrities don't,

marriages don't last that long, particularly athletes.

You know what I mean?

They went to Italy.

They had a beautiful, let me say how many years it was.

But it was a beautiful wedding, but also just shout out to them for renewing their vows.

And that was was a question I have for y'all in terms of relationships.

Like, is that something that y'all would think about doing?

Flip me, I mean, you're actually a perfect person to ask because you've been married the longest.

You've been married the longest.

Is renewing a vow something you believe in or will want to do?

I would want to do it.

I don't necessarily believe in it, but I would want to do it if it makes my wife happy.

What about like living out your vows?

Yeah, you didn't have to renew them.

Like, you could renew them.

What's up?

It's a better fit in your lifestyle.

You could just knew them.

What about?

What about?

What do you think about it?

Hold on, talk about you.

The last person that did the

10 years ago,

you can't, I'm not talking about you.

Last person, are we talking about my family?

I'm not talking about you.

Ness, never.

Okay.

I'm not talking about you.

Calm down.

And not in a negative way, at least.

We love your family.

I'm asking you to tell your audience, what do you think about people just sticking to their vows?

I agree with sticking to your vows that's important to a healthy relationship.

But I do think that sometimes we may fall up.

Hold on.

A nigga suck at his teeth.

I do sometimes we fall and bump our heads, but when you fall and bump your head, if your significant others did to tend to your wound, then you know you're good.

Mark, this is why I wouldn't.

Usually the renewal of the vows, vows, vows.

I don't know why that was giving me difficulty.

You a little nervous there?

Yeah, I was.

Comes after someone does something horrible.

That's the thing.

That's part of that.

Usually someone gets caught cheating or the marriage is on the rocks, so they renew the vows to

fucking unless it's a he's right, though.

How does that make sense?

Because now we're going to go back to the drawing board.

We're going to start over.

Let's get this

fresh start.

Everything is a clean slate.

Oh, man, I'm about to sound horrible.

Is a payment come with that or something?

A new ringman.

I'm saying,

if somebody did something wrong to their partner,

how do you bounce back with the

because you recommitting almost like a fresh new partner?

But how would you be getting the person that you just just did wrong to agree to recommit after you did something?

It's usually after the healing period.

And by the way, Russell Westbrook, we're not saying that's you.

Yeah, no.

We know that.

And for all accounts, he's at, he's a great family man.

It's been 10 years for their anniversary.

It's a 10-year anniversary.

Congrats.

A lot of times, though, it's like in other cases, it's like, we fell apart.

I got you back.

I'm on the right track.

We're happy again.

You know, baby, let's do it.

Let's do it.

Clean slate.

Clean slate.

After you've healed.

Not like, I got caught cheating.

Let me make it up to you.

You make it up with the ring.

Well, some people do that too.

But they do that.

That don't usually work out well.

Yeah.

That happens.

Unless it's a time thing.

In the Russell Wilson, Russell Westbrook case, 10 years, 20 years, 25 years, 50 years marks a milestone in which people start to renew their vows and have a little ceremony sometimes.

I tell you why I wouldn't.

But when it's the eighth year, it's for the party.

11th year on the 13th year.

That's a red flag.

Baby, I fucked up.

Take me back.

Somebody fucked up, right?

Take me back, but you got to get your lady back.

What judge went to get his lady back for Judge Mathis.

Yeah, Judge Mathis, man.

He waited a long time and his wife left him.

She left him.

She left him, yeah.

Yeah, and he he fought to get her back

would you do it mark um i'm not talking about after the wrongdoing yeah absolutely just doing it absolutely

lover i i think it's also it depends on what your situation was like when you got married true so if you had a huge blowout ceremony and you you may not want to do that or you may do a small renewal right other people the opposite if you had like a small first thing now you might want to bring all your friends and family together in year 10 or 20 or whatever to celebrate it with the big festivities that you didn't do before.

So, for me, it would be one of those situations.

So, who came up with this?

A woman?

Probably.

Probably.

I can't imagine.

Some dudes like, let me do this again.

Although, I would say,

which one?

The baby come back.

A man came up with it.

Yes.

But the how

she came up with.

I will say that.

The idea of throwing another big-ass party with my wife does sound kind of lit.

So I do see how, even though we did have a big wedding, I would do it again just to have another big fucking party.

Spend another 200.

Party guy.

Yeah.

Spend another 200.

Something like that.

If If need be.

Yeah.

Something.

If life goes well.

Life is welling for you, sir.

Life is going pretty well.

200 pro parties a lot, though.

Yeah.

200 parties are unimaginable to me.

I don't like parties that much, though, but like that sounds crazy to me.

Play cool with the old valves.

Yo, open up the junk drawer in the kitchen, get the old valves.

Hey, let's read them together over marshmallows.

Yo, I got a question for you.

I see that since you joined the podcast, you tried to, not try, but you mend a lot of relationships or make a lot of things clear.

Because when I was going down the rabbit hole, I said, before you was on here, you would comment on people and say how you feel.

But since you came on here,

you would sort of like mend a relationship or say, you know, I really didn't mean it like that.

Or at this time,

this is where I was at.

I kind of, I do respect the fact that you put the job first, you know what I mean, for the sake of the business, but I do want to ask you, how hard is it for you to do that, right?

How hard is it for you?

Like, give me an example.

Listen,

well, like, let's say, well, I just saw, like, academics speak about you recently, right?

With Vlad.

Him and Vlad was speaking about you.

And I remember you.

Oh, I didn't watch it, but I saw the headline.

Yeah, I remember.

You remember challenging me and Joe to a debate or something?

Yeah, some shit like that, but that's not the point.

The point is, it's been a couple of relationships.

That's the only one I can think of offhand.

Yeah.

But that you mend, right?

But how hard is it to do that?

Like, do you is it for the work or do you generally feel that, yo, hey, at that time, I didn't mean to say that or it wasn't that serious?

Or does the job make you rethink your attacks on people?

Never attacks, but I get your point.

Yeah, thank you.

Criticisms.

Criticism, pardon me.

It's both.

You know, I think you have to always account for

the size of the platform you're on

and the impact of certain things.

So

my job as a scholar, my job as a social critic, my job used to be as a journalist, as a music journalist, all these things were to criticize.

But different platforms require different kinds of criticism.

Like this is one of the biggest platforms in the world.

And so the type of criticism I'm going to give here is different than the type of criticism I could give on a platform that if I give it that day, it's over that day.

You get what I'm saying?

Like there was a time when I could say something on a radio or TV and it's ephemeral.

It passes.

But now if I come up here and say something huge, then it lingers, you know?

And so I try to be responsible because I don't want this to be a place.

I mean, I'm listening to Joe talk about his dynamic with Charlemagne, right?

I mean,

that was a responsible response.

Whatever, you know, is like, because otherwise it could turn into something big and serious when it's not, you know?

And so

that's sort of how I think about things.

You know what I mean?

And so in the case of academic, I don't have a beef with academics, right?

So

even if he says something critical about me or personal about me, For me to come out here now and respond

If I felt a way, I was I would be honest about it, but but i don't feel a way so for me to even

so i don't want to feed into something that an outsider might put gasoline on and then it becomes a big deal when it doesn't and then it's just two black men fighting over something you know what i mean or me and vlad fight i don't fucking fight with vlad i don't i don't i don't i don't know beef with vlad you know i have criticisms of this i have criticisms of the way he does journalism That's against my job.

He made criticisms of me.

That's fine.

It's not personal.

So I don't want to use this platform as a space for that.

And then the other piece of it, which I'm learning from y'all, is sometimes, and I'm not talking about Vlad and academics.

I'm I'm talking about people who aren't of that stature.

Sometimes, like, you give people life by being up here.

You know, there'll be somebody who's not of a big stature who will talk shit, and then you're punching down.

And then, as you're punching down, you give people space that they don't need.

You know what I mean?

So, some people I wouldn't even mention because of that, you know.

That's honestly

a very mature podcast.

Rob Merckman would be proud.

He would

Rob is too damn mature.

Like,

goddamn.

He needs a little meanness.

You know what's funny?

That's why I got to stay immature.

You're not immature, bro.

I have to, I can't even.

You got to try.

Like, you reach for the immature.

I have to remain.

You're not immature anymore.

Because it's too many people that are doing the right thing out there.

Isn't that what you want to like?

That's going to make the content space just...

That's going to make the content space just boring and

whack.

And like, who's left to do it?

If everybody just grows up?

I gotta be the last man standing.

Nigga, you're not even, nigga, I don't even see you saying the same things.

You like, you, you mature.

Yeah, I'm up to us.

I don't care.

Not on that shit.

Even when I try to go on my immature range, you try to mature me.

I don't have nobody to even do it with, right?

Like, even this Charlemagne shit is old already.

It's nothing.

No.

All that's left is people trying to make it a thing.

Right.

Oh, oh, I see.

Okay.

There's nothing to this.

But

do you feel like

he slided you in any way?

Meaning like.

I feel like he can't.

No, because I remember something.

I remember him saying that, yo, the issue with me and John.

No, see, that sounds spicy.

That's not what I'm trying to say.

Let me clear this up for Mark.

I'm not trying to be spicy.

What I'm trying to say is, at the root of our most recent beef,

I thought that him and some of his minions

were saying things that could affect my value and negotiating power.

Today, I don't feel like that.

And that echo chamber is silent.

Today, I don't feel like anything said by anybody out there could have an effect on what I'm trying to do.

I wasn't trying to be funny.

He said that you and him are friends,

was friends.

He was just saying that the only thing that he stated that might have offended you was that

some of the spaces that you're in, I think you didn't belong in or you wasn't comfortable in some of the spaces.

I forgot.

He said something like that.

Water under the bridge.

Oh, okay.

And it matters none for me.

His opinion of me is just that.

It's his opinion of me.

And he's entitled to that.

I don't have any.

I'm going to pick when I start the beefs with people.

It ain't over.

It's just frivolous

nothingness.

Like, it's over.

It's 2025 now.

But you prove NASA's say it's wrong, nigga.

You proved them wrong, nigga, single-handed, regardless of what anybody says about you, nigga.

You built this shit from the ground up and proved everybody wrong.

So, what's part of

the double back?

No, they don't.

Nobody has to double back anywhere.

You don't believe in doubling back.

If my goal is to get from A to Z, and in between that is somebody just throwing shit on the road and the highway, okay, that's my job to get past that, not stop and cry about, oh, woe is me, they're doing me so wrong.

I'm off all that shit.

You pieced it up with Vlad.

I pieced it up.

I don't have a beef with anybody anywhere.

Speaking of people you used to have beef with, do we care that Will Smith was using AI-generated crowds in his videos?

Man, I never had a beef with him.

No, you didn't like when he first got on Instagram at all.

No, I just called something ahead of time,

like I usually do.

I called that ahead of time.

Hey, this is a problem.

This is before the strike in Hollywood.

This is before, hey, Will Smith being over here is a little funny.

We should take a look at this.

I didn't have a beef with him.

But anyway,

do what you like.

Yeah, he put out a video, a tour video of his

latest shit, and the people's faces were melting and shit in the crowd, like AI videos do.

You know what I mean?

Like in the background, at first it looks good, but then if you take a look at the side, there's a dude with four eyes and they're holding up signs.

How common is that?

Is that a new trend?

I think it's common.

It's common, and I also read somewhere that there's people complaining on YouTube specifically where they're inserting AI shit in there.

And I think that may be a scapegoat that they use for this at some point, although they haven't made a comment as of now.

But they're inserting AI tactics into people's YouTubes

without permission, essentially.

Oh, okay.

So that can get kind of complicated and weird because I didn't want that in my video.

I hope it stops, especially for Will.

I'm waiting for Will's music run to end right now.

And I actually don't think...

I re-listened to the album.

And after listening to it again, like, you know what I mean?

It's still really bad to me.

But I did hear some remixes of it.

Like, they did that freestyle everybody I was kind of they did over the Griselda beat.

Yeah.

And it was actually a million times better.

So it makes me think about how the album could sound, you know what I mean, with a little bit of remix.

But I'm kind of waiting for this phase to end and I want Will to get back to acting.

Yeah, because I think that's where he can recover some of his career.

I was reading, well, actually, no, I wasn't reading.

Someone told me offline sort of

how much potential money Will has lost post-Chris Rock,

you know, from the white audiences, you know, who don't want to come out anymore, people who just feel away, just people being able to short them now just because they can say your Q rating is down and things like that.

That is one of those mistakes.

Oh, I thought you were about to give me the number.

Yeah,

they gave me a number, but I

you can't.

I can't.

But is it high?

Significant.

Yes.

Oh, 200?

Way higher.

way higher than 200 wow yeah and how long ago did he smack him two years no way more five yeah not five

somewhat not five it wasn't that long ago it was because we've been only on the pop for four i smacked him when we were it was like 2022

2022 yeah yeah so three i mean three and a half years yeah three years

i didn't think that that would have affected him that much

what i went i wouldn't think i didn't i just smacked the nigga the outskirts

I love this podcast.

I never thought that shit was that serious.

It would affect the marriage.

It's serious if you smacked the host of the Oscars.

At the Oscars live.

At the Oscars.

Parks.

I didn't think it would be $100 million a year.

Fat Park.

I thought his celebrity power would be able to wash this over.

His celebrity power is why he's even in the game.

If he's a B-list actor,

he's not even in the game.

If he would have smacked, like, I disagree.

Someone older or something like that, I could see that being a big one.

I think Will hasn't hasn't put out any slaps

movie-wise.

And I think that's it.

I think if his last couple projects would have really, really resonated with the people, then we would have overlooked that shit like that.

I thought the Richard Roger Jackson thing again.

You can't just almost kill people, and you can't just, at any Oscars, go to the what the fuck would we say?

He'll stop putting that message out there.

That's not a good message.

You can't do that nowhere.

And it's cool.

I'm not saying that it it was cool

or nobody's just cool.

I just didn't think it would be cool.

I'm telling you that people don't give a fuck about what's going on in social climates.

You think they give a fuck about Will Smith smacking Chris Rock?

If Will Smith would have came out with two or three back-to-back good-ass movies, we wouldn't even know he's smacking Chris.

That's the richest movie that did good.

He won the Oscar.

Yeah.

That's actually the Oscar he was getting the night he smacked him.

Oh, God.

But I think part of the problem is part of what makes a movie, it's not just the script, it's not just the reviews, it's who goes into the theater.

And the problem is people stopped wanting to go into the theater after they saw Will differently.

Will was in rarefied air as

an A-list black actor.

And he's one of those people who transcended race to people.

He's one of those people who everybody went to have a cup of coffee with.

Everybody thought he was the nicest guy ever.

The one you want to.

All that changed when he got out of that seat, walked up, slapped Chris Rock with full motion, and sat back down.

Like it didn't just happen.

Like that shit changed the game forever.

And I don't think he can ever be seen exactly the same way again.

I believe that.

And I'm saying that shouldn't have been surprising to nobody.

That's all I'm saying.

And it's almost like I'm saying something wrong.

He shouldn't be surprised that his Q rating is changed.

I don't think he is.

I don't think he is.

I think he just wants to figure out how to get it back.

You know, or he said, fuck it.

And with the music,

the music could be a way of conceding, like, look, this space ain't going to be what it was anymore.

I need to start venturing into other areas.

I don't know.

I'm not in Will Smith's head.

I don't want to guess for him.

But I can tell you shit is different.

And I don't know if it's ever going to happen.

Do you think that if Chris Rock and him get together would that change people's view on it i think in america anything is possible i think you can recover you can redeem yourself you can become whatever i don't know if that's the thing that would do it

per se but something can happen he's only had two movies since yeah but one of them was a flop anticipation wasn't a good movie I watched it.

It wasn't a good movie.

I mean, Emancipation, pardon me, wasn't a good movie.

And then Bad Boys Ride or Die did decent numbers.

Yeah, it did good.

Really good numbers, in fact.

So I don't see, I think that if he continues to put out quality product, now there may be a hold on him putting out product as a result of him smacking somebody.

But I think with any

other entertainer, when your product, y'all say it every day, if Drake puts out slaps, we're going to forget all of this shit.

Drake can make a smack in his basement.

Will Smith cannot make a movie in his basement.

So it's not only fans not going to theaters, it's the elite of Hollywood,

not pitching him for the movie.

That's what I said.

He's not getting the roles for their show.

He's taking you off the board, off the Oscars.

We're wiping your existing.

You're done here.

You're done here.

Yeah.

So where is he getting this movie?

Unless he's doing like indies, right?

But then you're not getting the money.

Now you're not commanding 50 million, 60,000.

The indie movie is not going to have 350,000,

350 million in marketing.

Right.

it's over and he's never gonna win an oscar again bad boys numbers went crazy so we'll see but that's a different tier of movie though bad boys was done and in the pan in the can and he and he revived it because the last bad boys prior to this one was trash and we didn't think that was going to go out and see this bad boys and it yeah at this point i don't even know what i'm defending anymore i don't know what i'm defending all right shout out to will smith to will smith i hope power like what if

you're saying it's over, but he's saying there's a possibility that it's not over.

I think we all agree anything is possible.

All I'm saying is that this took a huge toll in ways that I think should have been foreseeable.

Um, and I think where this conversation took a little bit of a left was because some of us didn't seem a bit surprised by it.

But either way, I hope he hope it works out for him.

I hope he'll double, you got to double down in it now.

Go smack Tony Rock.

You got to just go find all the rock, the rock.

Oh, shit.

fun.

Hey, go on.

Yo, you got to just do it now.

Do it on Patreon.

Just find the rock and say, you know what?

Wow.

Hey, you got to go to Indy route now, dog.

There's only a few things that can fix this.

Holy shit.

Shout out to Will Smith, man.

Shout out to Will.

I was supposed to talk to Will when his album came out, but then he didn't come up here.

And then I heard the album.

So it was like.

He did a lot of interviews, too.

He did a lot.

He did a lot.

A lot of people cancel on me.

Oh, yeah.

I don't take it personally.

Yeah.

Look at you.

You perk up when it's time for some.

Nah, I just want to know, like, you know.

Put your little medicine bag on.

What happened to you?

I can't see.

Maybe you show your shit in the middle.

I don't see them.

Nah.

You okay?

What happened?

Nothing.

So the iPhone fold is dropping soon.

Have we seen it?

Distinguished panel?

I've seen some of the little mock-ups.

I don't know what to believe.

It's real.

Is it innovation or with the passing of Steve Jobs?

Is Apple just late to the party?

I don't feel like it's right that we break down Apple shit without Ice here, man.

It feels wrong.

Ice is on vacation living his best life right now.

Posting pictures on Instagram and shit, man.

iPhone fold.

Yeah, he cooked that.

He kicked a Jamaican nigga off the raft.

There was somebody missing from the raft, Greece.

He stood on that shit, too.

They be giving you the option.

Yo,

how you want this raft to go?

It could be your whiz and homeboy.

You could get on here with homeboy, or it could just be you and your whiz.

He took the him and his whiz route.

How far do you think he got down the river?

Huh?

How far do you think he got down the river?

Or the pond or whatever he was in?

I just don't picture him as the best rower.

The photo.

That's awesome.

That shit might be the size of a swimming pool.

Take these pictures and you get the fuck up off here.

I got a question for y'all about marriage, actually.

Okay.

Well, maybe not about marriage, but let's see how it goes.

Do y'all believe that I have some room for the dudes?

Of course you don't believe this.

Do y'all believe that if you meet someone one way, then you shouldn't be able to complain about them being that way closer to marriage?

No.

Never.

Womark trying to find a way to side with girls.

No,

I don't even know what the dude's side is to this.

My side with girls met her.

His trucks are.

What side did the girls take?

I was trying to understand the question.

Yeah, me too.

You know how women always say,

you're not being consistent.

I met you one way, don't start being this way.

You know how they start doing that?

How the conversation came up for me was

I got in trouble.

I don't know if that's a girl thing either.

Well, in my example, and what I'm about to say is a girl thing.

Yeah, I got in trouble a little bit.

It's lightweight trouble.

Me and my baby's good.

But

I guess to her, I've been making more comments about how she dresses.

Why would you do that?

Just niggas.

I didn't even know I was doing that.

Repeat after me.

Actually, that's not true.

Repeat after me.

You look great, baby.

That's it.

That's it.

I think you look amazing.

See, your face that you make right now is just as dumb as they would look with that Will Smith shit.

There's only one answer.

Okay, I received that.

I don't know if I agree yet, but I'll tell you where I fucked up.

I'll tell you how I

fucked it it up.

We were debating over what

the word revealing means.

And I guess I have a different definition of it than she has.

So we started pulling up pictures and outfits and going over it just so we could be gauge, so we could gauge the same way.

But in her argument,

it wasn't an argument, but the argument that she was making in her case, she was like, no, I just think that as of late, you've been a little more vocal on the outfit i thought she was gonna say you've been wearing a little less lately

even wear less going out more so that i shot back with

i don't know if that's specific to me or if men closer to marriage

start to say things that they didn't originally say like okay i met you dressing one way i love that shit

She knows I love that shit.

But closer to marriage, if I say say something,

I don't know.

I think that men do that.

You're saying you're now critical of her wearing things that she used to get off.

And again, let me be clear.

I'm not saying that, because I had to make this clear when we had to talk.

I'm not saying she can't dress.

I'm not saying that she dresses bad.

I'm not saying she doesn't know how to dress for the occasion, wherever we're going.

Me and my baby step.

We only were having to talk about what revealing means and men saying it now more so than they did when you first met.

Do you feel differently now, or are you just more comfortable saying it now?

Great question.

Okay.

Look at it.

That's a good question.

That's an amazing question.

That's a good question.

Because my feelings, don't you?

Listen, me, I'm from the depths of hell.

I'm into all of that.

I'm into shit.

So

she knows I don't have a problem with what she's wearing.

Right.

That don't exist.

So I guess it's confusing for her when I say,

yeah, I understand.

I understand her confusion now.

See what I'm saying?

You've helped me to understand her confusion.

What?

Oh, I was just wondering if the amount of revealing that's happening is uncomfortable because it's a place that you're not.

He's about to get mad.

But see, that's the thing.

And that's where I think she...

That's where I feel like she shouldn't be confused.

I'm not saying I'm uncomfortable with it, and I'm not saying that she should change anything.

But that's why you're comfortable with it.

That's contradictory because we wouldn't even be having a conversation if you didn't feel a certain way.

No, that's not true.

That's not true what you're saying.

Why?

How is it a conversation if?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, feel a certain way.

Whoa, whoa, let's be clear.

Feel a certain way, yes.

Uncomfortable, no.

The feeling is not one of uncomfortable.

What are you feeling?

If it wasn't a feeling of discomfort, there wouldn't be a conversation.

I feel like if we're getting closer to marriage, put them, strap it up, strap them shits up.

That's how you feel.

And let's keep it pushing.

In order to go Amishna?

Well, no, no.

That's what she said.

I feel said you have to get pegged.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Hold on, hold on.

Shut up, Mark.

Witch man, strap it up.

No, but how you dressed before we got married or before we were engaged and how you

before and how you should dress now should be a difference.

It should be a difference in how you dress.

I agree.

Not saying that he's saying that, but I would say that.

See, her and I had a lightweighted, funny conversation.

I just thought it was a good conversation for the ball.

I mean,

that nigga's just a little bit of a shit.

I can't.

you wouldn't feel away salute to you.

I respect you.

I wouldn't feel away either.

You wouldn't feel away salute to you.

I would.

What I could say is

if you had your ass out or you walked outside and anything that was super

revealing when I first got with you, cool.

Now that we're married,

I feel like you should present yourself a certain way.

You're a married woman, even if you was engaged to me, you should present yourself a certain way.

I think that's okay, by the way.

I think that's okay.

Yeah.

I think

I could see what I could see is the fact that you're doing so amazing now.

Yeah, I was like, let's go out and spend some fucking money.

I don't think so.

It's an evolution that comes along with getting older.

That's how it came up.

I'm sorry.

That's how it came up.

That I get.

Not by me bringing it up.

But we shop so much, though.

I'm looking at outfit, and everything I pick out, she thinks is on some covered Amish shit.

And she's like, yo, what's going on?

You trying to change me?

All right, so let me know.

That's how it happened.

So let me ask you a question.

That's how it happened.

But that wouldn't be wrong, though.

I think it is.

Go ahead,

it's an uncomfortable conversation for me because you're talking about your girl.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

What do you you don't have to talk about my girl.

You can just talk.

So I think along with evolution, I think where you are

financially, I think where you are growing your business and your brand, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

We said that too.

There are evolutionary steps that come along with that.

And so I think it's nothing wrong with changing.

Like we look at change like it's a negative thing and it may not be a negative thing.

It just might be

more mature evolutionary growth.

The way you used to dress, you don't dress today.

Right.

So it wouldn't be anything, in my opinion, different with as we grow.

We're in different rooms.

We're meeting different people.

So what I might used to wear eight years ago is might not be how I'll show up today.

Or just, I have a lot of money now.

We don't have to do the, like, women will buy some shit just because they can have a thousand million shits in their wardrobe.

Maybe now that you have enough money to get whatever you want, like, like you shouldn't be stepping in anything that isn't high fashion no he's saying they go shopping a lot that makes the types of clothes he's saying he's looking at is different than the type not the cost it's just the type of clothing that he's looking at is different i see that

because you said you didn't agree i don't give a so

over time

you change the rooms you're in

the opportunities you have the money you have or just age right of course like what you wear at 21 you don't wear at 41.

of course i get all of that i'm just saying i wouldn't say just because you're now married to me,

you have to wear

it.

I don't think the married woman means

wardrobe changes.

That's all I'm saying.

Because I don't know.

Because you're my girlfriend, my fiancé,

whatever will make me want you to be a certain way then, or in marriage, I'd want you to be that then.

I don't agree.

I think that we find

a kind of way to say something.

I feel like

if you dress a certain way or you move a certain way in certain rooms or wherever we go, and then now that we're closer, we're married, I'm bringing you, like you, you,

it,

I feel like presentation is important.

It is.

As my wife, that is important.

I feel like whatever we did before is cool.

But now that we're here, I feel like, and she will want the same thing for me.

You know what I mean?

I can't.

What do you wear different now than you did when y'all were just boyfriend and girlfriend?

Say it again.

I'm sorry.

So what do you wear different now than when you're a boyfriend and girlfriend?

Like you wore a sweatsuit to invest fest.

What would you have worn to invest fest 20 years ago?

Yeah, but

if she was a and I will do that again, that's one too.

If she was around me, she wouldn't want me to wear that, right?

I'm like, she would tell me, that's just a stubborn thing that I do, but she would tell me, like, nigga, I wouldn't want you outside like that.

So you shouldn't go outside doing wearing that, or you shouldn't, you should present yourself well, and especially as my husband.

But is that because you're married or just because you're 40?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

But I'm saying,

no, I'm not 40.

Whatever.

I'm not trying to.

I'm saying, is it because we're mature adults now, or is it because you're married?

That's what I'm saying.

I agree with what you're saying.

But I can speak from being married because I'm not saying that.

I can speak from being a marriage.

Why should Flip wear a suit to investor is because he's married?

To me, it's because he's 38.

If the suit is what you want to wear, right?

No, I'm saying, but what she would say is that he's wearing a suit because he's 38, and it's his married partner's person job to say that to nobody else.

But if it was his girlfriend, she should say that.

Exactly.

I'm saying being married to the girl.

If you've been in a relationship with your girl for eight years, right?

And the eight years,

I think that the ninth year y'all married, it don't change how.

Let me finish.

Your representation point matters.

And I'm not agreeing with Flip's representation point, but I think whether we jump over the boom or not, then your representation is the same.

You represent me as my girlfriend the same way you represent me as my wife.

What we missing out of here, I'm sorry, but so let me clear it up.

What we missing is the longevity of the relationship.

That's what I'm saying.

So, I guess being together, maturing together.

That's what I'm saying.

Okay, I got it.

I'm with y'all.

I can see today.

We're just not putting a magic.

I think sometimes I put that together.

I still would want if we become closer, I still, it's not homish.

I still would want you to present this a certain way.

Your eight-year girlfriend, your seven-year girlfriend.

Like, everybody's families and traditions and values are different.

I wouldn't bring, like, if my wife wears a skirt here, and I know I'm going to some party, I wouldn't want, if I'm going to a certain party, like my great aunt or something like that.

Oh, that makes sense.

But I'll be like, yo, you know what I mean?

But I wouldn't want my girlfriend to do that.

I get what you're saying.

That's what I'm saying.

I got it.

I got it.

It's actually worse if it's your girlfriend because it looks like you hired someone.

Plus,

we're bad.

I see what you're saying.

I got you.

What's the phone call that hussy?

Yeah.

You bought this hussy.

First of all, what?

And you know, old people don't

know what to do.

Yeah, I think that,

yeah, it's the same.

I think that when you cross over the broom,

immediately it's just not just snap.

Right, now things are different.

To the other point Joe was making or asking about,

how comfortable are you telling your significant other you don't like an outfit?

Forget about appropriateness.

Just like, I don't think it looks good or whatever.

And if you and how do you deliver it?

It's tricky.

It's tricky.

It's tricky.

Sometimes.

or do you just, y'all, do you shut the fuck up?

Nah, I don't shut up.

I'll make a suggestion.

Like, my girl comes to me, but I think me and my girl got kind of decent communication.

So if my girl says, yo, you like this, and I don't like it, I'll be like, how about your XYZ?

I think your XYZ might look better.

So you don't say no.

Yeah.

It got to be egregious for me to be like, yeah, I think it depends on the relationship.

I think

it depends.

It depends on the relationship.

My wife is very vocal, and I feel like I'm I'm going to be vocal

with her as well.

But she throws on a dress, you just think the dress is ugly.

What do you say?

I'm not going to say it like that.

I'm going to find a better way to say it because I don't want to adjust her feelings.

You got to start getting your passion review back.

Yeah, pussy football.

You got to get in your passion review every time.

The way they pleaded it here is just.

But it's still a little bit of a double-blinder.

Every relationship has the person that the relationship acknowledges dresses better.

Yeah.

Am I off?

Am I off in that?

No.

No.

No.

Which person are y'all in the relationship?

Oh, my wife dresses better than I dress.

Same thing.

Same.

Same.

If I dress better than her, she helped me.

Right.

Which then also lowers your ability to be like,

that's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

You'd be like, nah, that ain't it.

You can't say that, right?

Or you feel like you can't say that.

Do your partners respond well when you do say you don't like something?

It depends.

It depends.

If they also were feeling that way, they will applaud me.

If she really liked the thing and I had a criticism of it, I am in the doghouse.

Yep.

I mean, relationships teach you that, right?

Being in a relationship would teach you how to approach a situation more kind.

You know, kind.

I say some shit regular to friends or family members, but I wouldn't want to hurt my wife.

Yeah, if I walked in ready, they're like, what the fuck you got on?

Right?

But your wife can be.

We're men, yo.

What do you say?

We're men.

Yeah.

We grew up sitting at a lunch table cracking on each other for fucking 45 minutes.

It's a different ballgame.

And it gets a little confusing because they will want you to be honest or tell you

to be honest, but they don't really want that.

They don't really want you to be honest.

Oh, they don't want you to be honest.

Although they also don't want you to let them go outside looking crazy.

It's a fine.

It's a very fine.

It's a fine.

Because it's your fault either way.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

You let me walk outside looking like this.

Right.

You got it.

Yep.

We put it.

Y'all care that Batwow took a blunt out some dude's mouth and put it in his mouth?

Huh?

I said it again.

I saw the video.

Isn't that what smoke?

Oh, he.

I really didn't say that one more time.

I said,

Do y'all care about the video of Bow Wow taking a blunt out of a guy's mouth while he was smoking it and put it in his mouth?

Was he his friend?

Did he know the guy?

I don't know.

It makes a difference.

It does make a little bit of difference.

I would never do it either way.

No, it doesn't.

We're talking about the action of

physically.

Oh, I thought you meant like a regular

bar.

You took it out of a man's mouth

during a video and put put it in his mouth.

That's odd.

It don't matter if they're friends.

That's odd.

I happen to believe in progressive masculinity.

Nah, as a smoker, that would have been a little bit of a damn.

And I still...

And I still would never do that shit.

I could not imagine pulling a blunt out of somebody's mouth.

I was so tired at that concert, man.

They took my weed on the way in, man.

Damn.

At a concert in Puerto Rico?

They were very strict at the door, which I appreciate as a concert girl, like, make this a safe place.

But they could have put like a sign out or something.

Just take the guns and I would have hid that shit somewhere.

I was about to say, Why you ain't just stashed that shit?

I would have known I got to the front of the line, and he's like, Empty your pockets.

I'm like, All right, and it's like, You got to throw that away.

So I threw the thing away.

All right, we're learning.

Normal things really surprise you.

I'm just accustomed to New York lifestyle.

Could you believe it?

They could have put a sign up, he said.

I have taken weed to every concert I've been to for the past however many years.

You feel like money when they tap your pockets.

Yeah, you have to pull them out.

I had it in like a little case thing.

Why you ain't just hit bun?

Who?

I don't know.

I figured that was the pet name that you gave Bad Bunny.

Why you ain't just hit Bun?

I knew it was some joke shit, but it took me a minute to catch it.

That's funny, son.

Yeah, you got to stash that.

I didn't think about it.

I didn't think about it.

Maybe I was walking to the federal building with a knife.

I was like, oh, shit.

That's

a good poker, too.

I stashed that shit so good, man.

It came back and broke.

You booped it, nigga?

This was back in the day.

Came back and got my poker.

Oh.

You put in the bushes?

Did I?

Yeah.

I thought you was some other shit, nigga.

No niggas boofed that.

Only you got to be on that, bro.

Yeah, I know.

You old, so old niggas know about that shit.

Stop playing as jail.

The federal building, I'm coming right back out.

I can just come retrieve my bad.

The all-access pass you gave Mandy was for the whole weekend or was for that day?

For the whole weekend.

Oh, you looked out.

Free charge?

Yeah, it's called Family and Friends joint.

Now, it'll be somewhere.

Nah, I quit pro pro quo.

You didn't have a family and friend joint.

I spoke.

What'd you at?

The O-axis?

What is it?

O-axis on it?

Is that what you had?

I had two of them.

So those are two different colours.

Like, the colour battered.

Wait, so what color was yours?

Mine was like red and some other color.

And-ish?

Cream.

Cream and fruit.

Cream.

Matching the sweatsuit.

Matching the sweatsuit.

Cream and what?

So neither one.

He frontin'.

But so neither one of y'all was.

He's front, nigga.

He had my shit, too.

What up?

When you brought it with you?

Put it out.

When I took my pants, my nigga, I fell asleep at eight o'clock last night.

I was tired as shit.

So, you know, you just take your stuff out your pocket and put it right there.

So this morning, I just put everything back

in my pocket.

Let me get you.

You know, JR right down the block.

It was like, my shit was like this, a little darker than this.

And yours was bright red, like red, flag, red.

Nah, my shit was like this.

Mixed with these two.

So there were levels to the past.

No, there were levels.

I don't know what level level Flip had, so I'm not saying my level was higher than his.

There was a friends and family line, and then there was I wasn't on no line.

Are we breaking down the color of the wristbands that y'all have?

Yeah, yeah, bro.

Is that what's happening right now?

I just told this shit to my man.

No, I just told this shit.

Just checking.

I don't be

competing.

What was your favorite part?

What was your favorite part of the panel?

Our panel?

Yeah.

That point Dr.

Brian made.

I hadn't.

All right, so throughout the duration,

I hadn't had an opportunity to talk to them.

Like everybody that was on the panel, so I didn't know how they was going to receive me.

You know what I'm saying?

Them niggas, everybody was cool as shit.

Like, everybody was cool as shit.

Off stage, off mic, everybody was just cool as shit.

They was welcome and they was warm.

Dr.

Cheyenne Brown was dope.

You know, we had said some shit about her up here, so I didn't know how that reception was going to be.

It wasn't none of that.

She didn't see the podcast.

Did she acknowledge it?

I could tell she saw it, but it wasn't.

It wasn't.

It was just, yeah, it was just like, yeah.

It was love.

Yeah.

So I think that was dope.

That's love.

Right.

That's love.

What was your favorite part of the panel?

I just like watching my people get busy.

For sure.

I like watching my people get busy.

I like seeing them in there.

I like watching Ish in his ish swag, like his ish element.

In the Sergio.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I like seeing all of that action.

He was really good, too.

You were really good.

You were really good.

Thank you, sir.

You know what happens with this show?

We don't really warm up for a minute because the show is so long.

So when you go anywhere else and you sit down, yo, the shit be damn near over before you get

Josephine's piece of shit.

I don't know what the fuck.

Yo,

I'm going to start throwing shit at these niggas.

Be okay when they come back.

I pitched when I was little, nigga.

Be okay when they come back.

Wait.

Meaning Walmart because the show was so

back.

And because Mark is such an asshole.

I don't know why he's laughing.

I'm laughing.

I was laughing because

that shouldn't be.

You're supposed to come in here prepared.

That should be.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that we could do an hour.

Uncomfortable.

We barely even jump into our topics and we already in an hour.

And somebody else showed an hour and you're done.

They're like, oh, all right.

So wrapping it up.

And you're like, huh?

Like, oh, damn, that's fast.

So this show conditions you.

Yeah, because, again, we don't really get busy until probably after hour one.

Sometimes we might get into it, but

it's a topic by getting busy.

It should be our best hour.

Get busiest hour.

So I know what you're trying to say.

I just keep it.

It was 30-something minutes up there.

You know what I mean?

So you ain't really getting to

the meat and potatoes.

Do you think you would have if you had more time, or you think you'd have tucked that cock?

No, I think the conversations would have been better.

It was conversations based on finance and relationships and how they intertwine.

Oh, okay.

That's your bag.

That's your bag.

That's your bag, too, right there.

And it just was it.

It is.

It's not.

That's one of your bags.

That is one of your bags.

All right.

I'm not saying that's not.

That's your bag.

I can tell you, as a viewer of the show for a long time, like you, when I watched it, those were the two of the things I like to hear you talk about the most,

that you were most entertaining and informative about was relationships and money.

So I guess I can see how the intersection could work.

Yeah, thank you.

So money is third for me.

It's relationships, bitches.

And then

it's the money part.

It's so stupid.

Yo.

Flip, you know what you're wearing Saturday to my birthday dinner?

I didn't even think I was invited.

No,

I don't know what I'm wearing yet.

Why wouldn't you be invited?

You got the invite.

I did.

I did.

Everybody got the invites invited.

I got you.

You didn't get it yet, but you invited.

Oh, gee, thank you.

Because you got the Android.

I put it in the group chat.

Everybody dubbed it.

So I was like, I wonder if these niggas want me to send it individually to them.

Nah.

Yeah, like, yo, when certain things hit that group chat, they'll they'll scroll right you don't you know why because you sent it while we were on this set you did because i wanted it to be like content for y'all to like tease me about it oh yeah y'all are not we don't get warmed up

that was only hour three

we didn't get going yet i don't know what i'm wearing though tell me what the weird what are you wearing it says black tie

Because I have options.

I was thinking about wearing tucks.

I will tell you what I'm wearing, and I didn't ask you what you were wearing because it's not a concern of mine what you're wearing.

Like, but what are you wearing?

I'm asking for real.

I just told you I don't know what I'm wearing.

But why not the week of is what all I'm asking for.

Ish, you know what you're wearing?

Amani, you know what you're wearing?

Yeah.

You know Amani got the fit laid out.

What's up with you niggas?

Why don't you...

Again, let me, I can speak for myself.

I can't speak for Flip.

Yeah, you know, he quickly speak for himself.

Yeah, champ.

I found out Friday is black tie.

Champ.

He don't want to speak for his man.

So if I found out Friday that it's black tie, and I don't necessarily, I got mad shit in my closet that would be appropriate, but that stuff don't really fit me now.

So now I got to go buy some clothes and get them tailored in a time manner for a black tie event.

Men's warehouse opener tail.

And Friday, I left here and got on a plane to go somewhere else.

So I landed yesterday.

I need your people, too, if you got somebody that'll tailor fast.

I didn't know it was black tie.

You know what I mean?

So I'll get it.

I need an excuse to get a new tuck.

So anyway, I've been wanting to get a new tuck.

So this would be my excuse.

It's not black tie if you don't have black tie.

Like, you could, I just don't look stupid.

Like, it says, the invite says, don't look stupid.

You're going to look stupid if everybody shows up black tie and you're not black tie.

You're in Sergio.

Hence, stupid.

I don't mind getting a tux.

I just need to get tailor-fast.

Am I wrong?

Yeah.

Like, yeah.

Because you're talking to a bunch of different types of people.

This is the setup.

Yeah, it was a trick.

It is a trick.

It's a trick.

It is a trick.

You just put a tie on.

Or for you, blazer with the shirt.

I know the way your neck is.

Hoodie?

The hoodie under the blazer.

The way your neck is set up.

Yeah.

Like, you could just...

Shirt, unbutton the top, cool little blazer.

I'll take you to the bottom.

Some belief sweats or whatever you're going to do on the bottom.

I think I would like an issue shopping.

Fuck you talking to you.

Yeah, but my thing is I'm only talking, they should have shopped before inventing.

It's even funnier if it's like

the day before the party.

No, it's not.

Y'all scramble around with them tailors if y'all want.

That's what I'm saying.

Niggas think tailoring is just a layup, and that shit is not a layup.

My nigga, a good tailor, might not be able to get your shit back for a week or two.

Right.

That depends.

Yeah.

I live in a story.

The Greeks are good with the tailor.

They'll turn that shit around quick, and it'll be right.

A lot of Polish people.

I might be asking you for a spot there.

Yeah.

Come right over to the story, bro.

I went to Tom Ford.

They got me right, but it was just in the nick of time.

And you still got to get your shit back.

What was the turnaround at Tom Ford?

I went Saturday to be ready Thursday.

It's a week.

Yeah, okay, so I got to go to Morris.

My son went to Nordstrom's yesterday to be ready Saturday.

Tom Ford fits me off the rack, so if I go that route, yeah.

Yeah, you still need some little tweets, maybe.

Maybe sometimes,

bro.

I have to curse the fucking doorman out of Tom Ford, because I be up the street at Bottega.

He don't know me like that, nigga.

If I walk up to the door and you stand at the door and your job is to open the door, nigga, open the door when I come up the door.

He's standing there looking at me through the glass.

I ain't touched the door.

We just have to stare down right there.

Nigga, is you going to get the fucking...

No, you act like somebody coming in this bag.

Which one did you do?

The velvet joint with the...

it's not a season for velvet.

I know, but I told Keno not to lay off the velvet, too.

I didn't do the velvet.

Velvet is my favorite blazer, but I don't love the velvet dinner jacket, but I love that.

They had a nice one.

This is why I asked.

They had that one with like it was like small dot.

Like, that shit was flying.

I want to keep my jacket

in the joint.

Gary Buick, because I don't have time for it money.

So, you know.

Gary Buick.

Nigga, you go take your ass to Century 21 or wherever you be going.

It's over.

They got us.

Century 21.

Macy's for years.

And I'm never,

yeah, yo, chill out, bro.

Go to Livingston Ball.

But there's nothing wrong with you getting your look for Macy's.

There's not.

Nobody is shaming that.

There's nothing to do with you.

Do you not sham the poor?

I know.

Nothing at all.

His pride won't let him walk in with a suit for Macy's, which is the sick part about men.

It's sick.

I mean, it's.

Yo, I'm going to start crying.

Yo, your hypocritical bullshit that you do.

Get that rewind on.

No,

that's the problem.

Then he'll get the rewind on it.

Because he won't allow you to make him look stupid.

He'll say, I'm a hypocrite.

Which takes all of the fight out of it.

What Ice does, too.

Yeah, both of y'all.

I'm a hypocrite.

So it's no, it's a horrible defense.

There's no accountability on your goofy bullshit.

Yo, I'm a hypocrite.

So I lie a lot.

So,

all right.

Okay.

We would.

Flip, don't you come in there wearing some car vests.

I'm not playing with you.

I'm telling you.

I swear for God.

What's going to happen?

I got you.

You won't get in.

I got you.

You won't get in.

Why not?

Because I'm making an impression on

the people that are there that took the time and energy to dress the way it's supposed to be.

Are you doing white?

No, white?

No.

I'm not doing white.

Maybe I'll do my white.

I didn't want to show up and say.

I've had the same fear right now.

You can do white.

I'm on my cream.

You doing cream too?

I saw a little ivory blazer, but it gave me prom too much.

I couldn't do it.

I wanted to jazz it up with different pants, but they gave me the black prom pants.

I was like, I'm going to go.

Tuxedo or something.

Tuxedo.

But I think.

But now they got to put on a cream blazer with a cream pant and a nice chocolate shirt.

Let the jazzy niggas get jazzy.

You could.

The shirt, Tom Ford.

The shirt is where you get jazzy and the tie.

But a black pant, Tom Fortin, I'm not going to do that.

No, they got a little bit of jazz.

They got a little bit of jazz.

Not off the cream blazer, they don't.

Black.

Black pants.

You could get freaky, but it don't matter.

And

a week.

This is what everybody understands.

Yo, dog, to wear quality dress clothes in a week.

It's tough.

It's tough, bro.

If you're not taking care of your body.

True.

Yeah, if you shape like Parks.

What are you?

46 long?

48 long?

No, I mean, pardon me.

You're a 44 long?

You said you're 46 at all.

How long?

44 long.

You look long, yo.

44 long.

If it's like right.

Same with pants.

44 long for parks.

He can walk in.

I walked my ass in Tom Ford like my dick was big until they took me by the cufflink section.

Oh, yeah.

Nah.

When I went to...

They fixed it.

Hey, went right back to Shmedium.

Hey, back to that ring can.

They fixed it so much.

The kind lady that was helping me, and she was a total sweetheart, been there for 13 years, but she had to speech with me before we even got over there.

She was like, I ain't going to let you do it.

Yeah, no, they scraped me at Bergdorf when I got cufflinks.

Because I had already got the soup.

She's like, oh, you probably need some cufflinks.

Yeah, sure.

Picked out the ones I liked.

That shit was more than the soup.

Damn.

See, something was wrong with me and Tom Ford when I said to myself, I need to just get them from birddorf word i need to just go to bergdolf that's your consolation word bergdorf tom ford was on some some different

11 grand 17 grand twenty five grand thirty grand i'm like with a couple links yeah a couple links

i seen i seen the purple label blazer yeah

yeah nope

yo you gotta sell

that that's cheaper than tom ford

no it is i don't know i've i've tried it on.

Damn, that's how me and my girl got on what she was.

That row floor and purple label, my nigga.

It's expensive.

It's expensive as well.

Purple Tom Ford is more expensive.

Yeah, it is.

Purple label.

Let's just get in purple label custom.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

Dash shit.

Listen, y'all niggas just step on Saturday.

I'm stepping.

All right.

I'm looking.

I don't know.

What do you mean?

I'm looking.

What does that mean?

I'm looking.

Gotta see.

Gotta see what?

When I'm aware.

Let it go by, you know.

Yes.

I was looking at your YouTube views.

It's there.

You can swing it.

It's there.

You had a good moth.

Some of them shits is

buzzing.

Yeah.

You always get this stupid look in your face when I start talking about your views.

Nah, I'm just.

You be thinking I'm pocket watching.

Nah.

I don't think you pocket watch.

I'm just trying to figure out what I'm going to wear for your party.

Go by.

On Saturday.

Get it right.

You got to put me on or what to do.

Get it right.

Go to Tom Ford.

You can do some Ralph.

No, I can't.

Ralph who.

Cramden?

He can't do neither one of them.

Ralph Cramden.

Let me see.

Let me see.

Let me see.

All right.

Nobody cares about the iPhone fold.

Do we care about the tennis player Sashia Vickery that has an OnlyFans?

Tell iPhone, get off Samsung dick, my nigga.

How about that?

Everything Samsung come out with.

Here come iPhone three years later coming out with some bullshit.

Well, I'm not going to tell that the Apple.

What I will say to the people that will end up purchasing the Apple fold,

my dog, if you come around me with an Apple fold,

it's going to be a long day, yo.

Apple can make what they want.

If you purchase one and come around me and unfold your iPhone, I might smack the

earthwind and fire out of you.

It might be me, dog.

Come on, Mark.

I buy everything that Apple makes.

I don't give a fuck.

But not the fold.

I don't give a fuck.

They can make Apple draws, but I will buy it.

I don't care.

Ice, too.

Ice don't give a fuck.

The new phone come out.

Ice is getting it on the day it comes out.

I gotta see the fold before I make a decision on that one.

Yo, if y'all come

with an Apple fold.

I'm a fold y'all.

I'm a fold y'all.

I'm a fold y'all.

Do y'all care about this tennis player, Sashia Vickery, who has an OnlyFans, so now all the news outlets are talking about her?

Is that the girl

that has the OnlyFans that said that she is charging people $1,000 per date?

I know.

I don't know nothing about that one.

I think it's the same girl because the girl that I'm talking about has the OnlyFans also.

One.

Yeah, that's the same girl.

yes she uh was number 73 she reached the rank of 73 she has the only fans so what she said recently was she's charging she's gonna start charging men a thousand dollars to go on a date with her because she's tired of wasting her time um on on dates that go nowhere good for her non-refundable

if anybody wants to do that let them yeah oh yeah if you can catch a dodo to pay you to go out yeah i mean i ain't mad at it the only fans thing is interesting just the

Again, people should do it with their bodies, what they want, their account, what they want.

You know, I just hate

at a moment where women's sports is moving in one direction, for that to become the distraction and for it to become like, you know, more sexualization of athletes and things like that.

I don't think that women's tennis quite falls in the same conversations economically, unless I could be wrong, but women's tennis has been, they've been them for a long time.

Which makes it even more like, I don't know, I just like the reverence that women's athletes are getting right now.

That's all I'm saying.

It's like watching that

transformation, transformation, watching get better and stronger.

And to see this, I don't like, but she has a right to do it just like anybody else.

I ain't mad at it.

I think when you stand on the

hill, as so many people do, is that women are trying to

graduate or progress from just being looked at as a physical specimen.

Right?

We hear males sometimes say, yo, the hypersexualization of women is almost insulting.

Cool.

That's true.

But then when you go to say, it'd be so fine.

I know.

I'm more than just my body.

I'm more than just a pretty fake.

Yo, so I think.

This would be the, they'd be fine as hell talking about I'm an asset manager.

Girl, if you don't, I run a hedge fund.

You're like,

baby, it's bad looking at all them numbers on the screen.

Like, that's dope, but where's the OnlyFans?

Yes, I'm trying to hit that link tree, Mom.

What's good?

Trying to do some financial appeals.

No, it's support.

These are really irresponsible chicks.

Oh, no.

I'm just saying.

That's the problem with chicks having OnlyFans.

Like, you can't monitor the money that's coming in.

What's wrong with you?

That's bad.

All right, I hear y'all.

I hear y'all.

You're walking down to find out your girl made $130,000 last month.

Time forward we go.

Call time.

Call time.

get them on the phone i need cream pants

how would you feel if your partner or wife was making that type of coin on only fans

uh in this example they have an only fans were making that type of coin on only fans but keeping it to themselves like not telling you because morally and technically there's nothing wrong with this right

no it's something wrong with that

i don't think she said tell me the dollar amount but i would like some time forward fam you want to know what financial bracket your wife falls in you

I think that's a part of it.

I didn't say specifics.

I just

give me the specific dollar month.

$130 a month?

That's a lot of money.

Yo, dog, I want to know.

I think

men are really taking for granted what some of the women are making.

Oh, for sure.

Oh, no.

I think there's even a stat that says the OnlyFans

employees make more than

any motherfucking employee.

I can't believe that.

Like, there's some wild stats with how the money is circulating.

And if you, my girl, I want to know where we...

You don't got to give me the specifics.

Yeah, but could we we get a better house?

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

If you're making one point, in this example, you're talking over a million dollars a year, $1.3 million a year, you ain't tell me that's fucked up.

Way more than what?

I agree.

Give me some.

I need to know.

I need to know the exact amount.

Even though your wife never discussed with you what she was making.

Well,

I don't think, how could y'all become husband and wife without knowing what financial

ballpark?

Because back to your point in InvestVest, men are so conditioned to protect

and provide that how many men are running around saying, I'm trying to do some auditing on what she's making.

Men are not actively saying that.

That's true.

And watch this.

And you heard me say

in InvestFest, I stand against that.

Like, yo, dog, I think that's some insecure shit when the niggas can't take their girl making bread or don't want to do an inventory of where their girls are financially or filled.

Oh, you should.

Making bread and a secret couple million lying around.

It's stuff.

No.

It can't be a secret with me.

I'm going to feel some type of way.

I think if you're in a serious relationship, you should know how much the other person makes.

Yeah.

In general.

In general.

I mean, you may not know down to the dollar.

I don't know how much my wife makes to the dollar, but I could get it within 90%.

A $20,000, $30,000, $40,000

differential.

Yeah.

So if I found out later on, she had an extra $100,000 a month coming in.

Yeah, nigga, this is a problem.

Yeah, it's a problem.

Because they make me wonder all kinds of stuff.

And I still got to wash dishes.

What about you?

You crazy.

You can tell Mark washed more dishes than I was, right?

I do too.

Well, you was,

we knew that.

You've been a bitch.

You ain't surprising me.

What's my favorite word?

Look at Mark in the kitchen washing dishes as Ms.

How you go from a cult to that?

You don't make a wash dishes in a cult?

Yeah.

You're washing other things.

So see y'all, this is how it starts.

Then when I clap back, I'm a bully.

Word, word, word.

No.

Hey, them molestation jokes don't exist with me.

My family taught that gay guy.

Hey, fuck that.

Hey, hey, hey, fuck that jokes.

Hey,

my big brother went up there.

Dump, stupid nigga.

What's wrong with you, dog?

Anyway.

Oh, man.

No, but yeah, you can't have no 100 grand in the tuck.

You can't have no 10 grand a month in the tuck.

Good point.

Great point.

That's a lot of fucking money to hide.

As a regular thing?

As a regular person, Joe, you're bugging.

Stop that.

Stop that.

Get off of this rich shit you talking.

My nigga, $120,000 your wife is making and she's hiding it every year.

I hate when y'all make my opinion.

It's escape money.

I hate when y'all make my opinion lesser than because God has been good to me.

No, it is.

I'm not trying to talk.

Not lesser than, but it's just uncommon.

I think you're missing the

uncommon.

If the average person is making 50, let's say 40, right?

Yeah.

And suddenly they got a secret 120 coming in,

they got three times,

yo, that's more money than 90% of America makes.

You stashed it, right?

You secretly making that every month?

Get the or every year?

That's crazy.

I hate when y'all do this.

We be having privilege talks that y'all then rewind and include the poor.

So, are we talking about the poor?

If we're talking about the poor, JVP.

If we're talking about the poor, and I agree with y'all, somebody's stashing a buck 20, but if we're talking about two people that

I'm the poorest of the city.

Oh, shut the fuck up.

Yo, if my girl was stashing 100 grand,

you shouldn't blink.

No, I'm going to be having my eyes wide shut.

Are you crazy?

You shouldn't blink.

Okay, you shouldn't blink.

You need to submit representation with me on this broadcast.

No, you got to stop with this lie.

It's not a lie.

You've been here four years.

You just told them an investment.

I've been an entrepreneur all my life.

These niggas that work 9 to 5, they broke and dumped.

I did.

You just said that.

You just said that up here.

Rewind.

You just said that.

Yo, rewind.

Yo, shut your fucking door.

But two people that are

doing above average is what I'm saying.

Okay, but then you got to translate the numbers.

Let's say your lady were making an extra million dollars a month.

Yes.

You wouldn't want to fucking know that.

Wait, see, and that's where y'all are sick.

I'm saying two people that are above average and you jump to the million.

No, if Sade was making an extra

200 grand a month.

I pressed, I've been pressed her.

No, I said if she was making 200, no,

that money she making from the side on all this shit, TikTok subscription, Instagram subscription, subscription all that digital money that just is coming in seamlessly that as a man we not paying no attention why you press her slow down for a minute why you press her because you shouldn't care

i care you should and that's all i can say that's my point i care that's our point all we've been saying we what i'm arguing is she's she was within her right

and when i pressed her well not when i pressed her but no when you pressed her nigga don't don't nigga when you pressed her he don't want to say but it was a light press so i don't want to make changes

a full court press you pressed painted the picture for me, and I understood.

What's the picture?

How'd you get to understand?

I'm a bitch, right?

She said, look, pussy.

You bitch ass niggas.

You don't worry about what's in my pockets.

Right.

No, she said, look, what's coming in?

I do.

X goes here.

Y goes here.

I have three kids.

These niggas eat, growth three.

So money that comes in, and I'm not counting.

I just put that to the side.

It's for my kids, just for the itself.

I think that people have the right to stash for themselves.

Because in relationships, a lot of times the money that's made is the relationship's money.

We're earning as a couple.

But if somebody wants to stash, let's not say 10 grand, because that is a lot.

I want you to stash.

I want my girl to recognize that I'm frivolous with money and have an emergency stash.

But

if you make a million dollars a month, 120 grand, what was it, 110 a month?

Yeah, something like that.

That's not a stash anymore.

Yeah, that's not.

That ain't a rain.

That ain't a rainy day fun.

That's a monsoon brewing.

What the fuck are are you talking about?

Well, and that's the point right there.

A lot of women tell me that they keep funds for an escape.

Yes.

Yes.

And that's the thing that gives a lot of people anxiety.

That's what gives me anxiety.

When I hear people say, oh, my lady keeps $100,000 here, $200,000, $500,000.

It's one thing if we save it for us.

But if you got a secret.

Her saving is not normally for us.

Yes.

It's never for us.

It's just in case this relationship don't work out.

I got something to quote unquote fall back on.

And then when a man don't got his million in the stash,

that's what I'm saying.

Don't come tell me about all this money you're about to spend on your kids, man.

Fuck them.

No,

no.

Hunt?

Stop.

Serious.

You know the funny thing about kids?

Honestly, you wanna know what's funny about kids?

I have them.

Sex ain't that awesome.

What?

It ain't.

To make up for the inconveniences.

A kid.

Yo.

A whole life that you gotta watch from day zero to death.

For 30 years, they still bumming my money.

One little good night after the bad buddy show.

Yo,

we was hot and steamy that night.

Jose War was so.

Oh, man.

Yo, dog, Ian called me yesterday.

Ian called me yesterday.

He getting a haircut.

No, he getting his ass kicked.

He getting a haircut.

The barber is cutting his hair.

He looked like Michael J.

Fox in teen wolf.

He looked like he ain't been able to take care of himself in the baby only a month, three weeks.

That baby cries.

I was at his house yesterday.

That baby cried the whole time.

He was there for six hours.

Yo, he's totally let himself go.

Yeah, his daughter don't have no respect for him.

I text him and say, he look like shit.

It's coming.

I text him and say, imagine volunteering to do that for sex.

After that, Joe, everything else is so rewarding.

Yeah.

Your children growing up.

Your children.

I mean, I got one that's going to be eight and one is about to be 25.

when is when is the reward ceremony

you want your nut

the rewards

oh my god

this guy is a fool yo

oh man i'm got listen i'm barking on my kids over nothing now yesterday i tried to get my kid right for the party uh yo you got to go get a suit i thought i gave you some suits that fit but apparently they don't.

Yo, get up,

call me in the morning, take your ass down to Garden State Mall, hit the little suit store, out, out, out.

You get a tailor, so it's going to take some time.

What kind of suit he got?

No.

It don't matter.

It don't matter where he went.

The next day, I'm looking at the clock.

You know, I've been up since 5 a.m.

You know what time he called me?

111.

Oh, yeah, pop.

You okay?

I'm ready to make it.

Nigga, didn't I tell you to call me when you wake up?

Like, am I missing something that none of my kids listen to me?

Oh, I've just been feeling under the weather.

All right, so don't come around me then, because I didn't get sick on my birthday week.

You take your ass to Garden State Mall, get you a little something.

He called me back three hours later from some country-ass store in Newport Mall.

I got the whole Garden State Mall memorized like the back of my hand.

Whatever store you go in there, I'm going to know where it's at, where you at, and where you need to go.

Yo, I say, show me the store.

He starts showing me all of the Daniel's Leathers blazers.

Portobello.

He starts showing me all of this.

Not my bad.

We respect Daniel's Leather.

He starts showing me

shit with chrome buttons.

He started showing me blazes with LED.

I said, yo, where are you?

He said, I'm in Newport Mall.

No, I'm in.

I'm in Polyasta Heaven, dad.

Yes, yes, yes.

That's what's in Newport Mall.

Polyasta Heaven.

These kids don't listen for shit, but rewarding.

Anyway.

Anyway, moving on, moving on, moving on, moving on.

Moving on, moving on.

Chelsea, they threw the green dildos at the

Titans game, I think it was.

It was that foot preseason football game.

Yeah, yeah, they threw the dildo on the field.

Didn't your kid always find your girl sex toys?

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

Speaking of green dildos.

Whatever drawer is in, have to draw that in.

Them little motherfucker does.

If you don't give me that motherfucker,

they hit the power button.

Next is so bad.

I love that.

Yo, the shit come to life and start moving.

Yeah, because all they know how to do is press buttons.

That's hilarious.

Oh, man.

Yo, these kids are like that.

That is hilarious.

Yo, you done found that shit like seven times.

I done put in massive response.

They like, ah.

Oh, God.

I'm joking to refer to the tag before I be in court again.

Anyways,

somebody was saying, somebody was saying, somebody with more sense than me was saying something.

Oh, I was talking about the sex toys.

They're moving the dildos to a bigger stage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It wasn't just WNBA.

Yeah.

Oh, where they at now?

They were at the preseason Vikings, Titans game.

Oh, because of the male cheerleaders.

Oh, okay.

Y'all want to invite male leaders.

That's a good point.

Y'all want to invite male Jaylee?

Take this.

That's crazy, son.

Oh, I thought you were saying it was theirs.

It was Lime Green, right?

No, Parks.

Wow, Parks.

What the hell is up?

Yo, what's up?

What you telling us, Joe?

Fucking bad money, yo.

Listen, y'all keep playing with the NFL like that.

The NFL is going to teach you something.

Yeah, they will.

The NFL is going to teach you something.

The NFL ain't the WNBA.

Damn sure.

That culprit

could flee as long as the New Orleans last inmate from the WNBA.

They done threw a hundred dildos up there.

The culprit is at fucking the diner, just chilling, eating.

Roger Goodell will not have none of that.

Roger Goodell got a special guillotine in the back.

The NFL handles shit.

Oh, yo, that nigga's high.

Oh, you got dildos, huh?

Come here, boy.

Come over here to that seat.

Let me introduce you to the buster.

That number right there, boy.

Don't take a knee with it.

Oh,

man.

That'll really grind his gears.

This part is extremely immature.

But I think we've hit everything on my list.

Let me just double-check.

Menendez, Brothers, people who should have a podcast but don't.

Act and Meg deposition.

Oh, that was funny.

Ack and Meg was funny.

I'll save it.

Drake and Bobby, Drake, Tupac Chain, Rampage Jackson, Kissing Beans.

Oh, yeah.

I was just about to go there.

Mark, your Philly pass should be real focused.

You didn't say nothing about the Kiss Jadakiss Beans album, Kiss the Mac executive produced by Freeway that they're working on.

I'm excited by it.

I'm a little, I'm not sure how concrete a project it is.

Because even in the promo vid, like, Beans didn't talk.

Yeah, it sounded like something.

They've been talking about doing the album together forever, for 20 years.

That's back when they both was talking.

Right.

Now, you know, Mac don't say a whole lot.

He's still rapping.

He said he's going to start using the bag.

He got the AI.

He got the AI to accentuate his voice.

You ain't hear him song?

One of them shits.

No, one of them is.

Everything.

I fuck with Beans.

Everything Beans do is fire.

But they said they're looking for the bag.

They're reaching out to executives looking for the bag for this album, right?

So it still sounds like it's an idea that they're trying to launch

as opposed to like a project that has tracks or anything like that.

But Kiss the Mac, whenever it comes out, with Kissing Beans, it's going to be fire.

And with Freeway executive producing, I'm looking forward to it.

They were in Philly on Saturday in North Philly outside doing it.

So

I'm feeling good about it.

Doing what?

Getting your promo.

Doing a promo.

Because what happened was Jada Kiss came to the city to do a show.

And while he was there, Matt came down and met up with him.

Free came through.

Kissing and Free always come through.

They go to the games together.

They do stuff.

So, yeah, they're supposed to be doing this project.

He came out to announce it.

I'm excited.

And that's good usage of AI to me.

It's the best usage.

It's amazing usage.

Oh, yeah, that's the best usage.

I wish the young people knew.

I don't care that they don't, but I wish they knew how monumental this project is and what that really means.

And to a different level, lyricist.

Because Beans don't really be getting as much credit as he should be.

Because he deserves.

Beans is a top 17 rapper of all time to me.

I'm not bad at that.

He's really, really high.

Rapper?

Yeah.

He's really, really, really high on my rappers.

And he has really good albums.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Bro, he's high.

He's high up.

I don't know about 17, but he's high on my list.

Well, you don't know 17 rappers, you know?

Crazy as a bag of dust.

You can't name 17 current rappers.

Yes, I can.

And you added current.

You say current.

Because you know all the old school niggas.

That's why I added current.

You can't name 17 niggas that's rapping today.

Yes, I can, Joe.

This is like a good test.

It's currently testing.

We got to.

Set the timer.

We got to.

No, I don't.

The time don't matter.

Just can't he name 17?

17?

Yes.

That's rapping now.

How many?

17.

Luchian thug, Gunner.

Tell you just what's going on.

Offset, that's four.

That's four.

We'll keep the count.

You go.

Fabio, Lotto, Nikki.

That's seven.

Glorilla.

I'm on like nine.

Nikki, I'm skeptical.

Oh, shut up.

Nikki's a rapper.

Glorilla.

Current.

I mean, that's

single.

Glorilla, Scarlett, Chance, Jim.

What is this about?

Way float out, Scarlett.

Scarlett, nine.

Chance.

I'm on like 12.

This is beat me.

Yo, you at 11.

It's beating me.

You at 11.

Yo, this is so simple.

What's the other

chick?

big dedicated.

No, no, I got this far.

I'm cool.

Nobody save you.

A word.

Joe, uh, we had 11.

You can say them.

Chill out.

My brain is drawn up.

I'm trying to go by City Kodak.

Um

Kodak not a rapper.

12.

12.

Um Jim Jones.

Uh 13.

Yo, just name her name.

Look, that's what I'm doing.

Somebody know how much

money.

Even Malvin rappers took 30 seconds.

No, he didn't.

14.

Come on.

Joji, 14.

Drake.

Like, Joe, this is a layup.

Stop playing with me, yo.

He's almost there.

16.

I'll give him cold for 17.

Yo, this is.

But

if he'd had to get the 10.

I didn't even name the clips.

I didn't name nobody.

If he had to go to 22 clips.

It's mad niggas, Joe.

Stop.

You did it.

You did it.

Hey.

Ronald Paul's figure.

Yeah, come on.

Need a fucking round of applause.

Nah, you ain't going to get one either.

Yeah, I don't know.

Some of them names, though, if he ain't just gonna invest that nigga with a Lucci.

That's not true.

I wasn't dissing Nicky, by the way.

I thought you just meant like new generation rappers.

That's like people that are.

Just people that's rapping.

Yeah, well, yeah, you can do that.

He could do that.

What are we talking about?

What number you think would have fucked him up?

30.

It would.

Oh, that'll have finished him.

No, he'd have been there.

30 would have been choked.

35.

35.

Okay.

You get the 30.

I'll pay you.

I'll send you a stack.

Bruh, if you get the 30, I'm remotely thinking you sending me any money.

Joe, 13 more rappers that are currently rapping,

send it here.

I'm gonna call your bluff right or air.

Send it over there.

He got it.

He wrote it out right there.

Say the rappers.

Freddie Gibbs.

That's we need 12.

Yep.

No, you need.

Well, you said clips.

Yeah.

I was at like 20 with the clips.

Well, the clips is one.

It's two, but it's fun.

Word.

I'm not doing that here.

Okay, cool.

Freddy Gibbs.

So you need 11 more.

Nobody don't.

You need 11.

Yeah, it's 12 and more.

Because he needs 12 more.

Oh, 12 more.

Okay, good.

Go ahead.

All right.

Freddie Gibbs.

One.

Yo, Gotti.

Two.

The other nigga name camp.

Don't tell me nothing.

My brain just went a blank.

Simba.

Nah.

I don't give him Simba.

Simba not actively rapping?

Simba never put a project out and doesn't have a project out.

That's not true.

But okay.

We can take some off if you wish.

If he has a project out, you can leave it.

Simba.

Simba got a project out?

What's the Simba project?

I think he has put a project out before.

Simba's put a project out.

We have to talk about it up here?

Well,

all right, go ahead.

Three.

Nine more.

Nine more.

We're letting Simba rock.

Audience, we need nine more for Ish

to win this stack and split it with Dr.

Brown.

Absolute

reason.

absolute.

Yeah, what you think your face is?

I'm counting.

Oh, that's how I count.

With the dumb faces.

We need seven more.

Seven more.

Seven more.

This is so easy.

We need seven more.

I think you're running low.

I'm not.

This definitely isn't coming across as easy.

It's not.

My brain is just off the cuff.

I'm trying to think of some people.

I don't think it's easy, bro.

It is.

Seven more then.

Pretty, pretty short.

Stop touching him.

Stop touching the.

You ain't got to touch him.

Cashed off.

Six more.

Six more.

These names he's pulling out the wazoo boy.

Six more.

That's why I said a time limit.

Nah, no, he's closed.

Get my 500.

He's closed.

He's holding on my money.

Six more, and we're going to sleepers.

I'm telling you, we good.

This is so simple, yo.

I'm about to.

I said drake.

you already said

come on

Wally

five more

killer mic

for four more

for a thousand

dollars

suspense music

is playing in the background

She was so

G-Harbaugh.

Okay.

Okay.

Three

more.

You can do this.

Yeah, this is a...

Yeah, that 35 would have ended them, but three more.

It wouldn't have.

Get to the next one.

It's just taking some more.

That's 30 now.

In the meantime, the rest of us could find the next topic or sleeper.

Let's go to sleep.

Three more for him.

Cardi.

Oh.

Mm-hmm.

Two more.

Mm-hmm.

Cuavo.

I need one more.

Two chains.

Oh, there we go.

Ladies and gentlemen.

Right with fucking pause.

Hip-hop astonishing.

Why you just exit the screen?

Finger on the pause.

That's why this is the music podcast.

You're stupid.

What's your name on here again?

Dr.

Bryan Jr.

Oh, shit.

Oh, I see.

I see.

I see.

Oh, shit.

That's you, right?

Your name.

That's you.

All right.

What else we got, man?

What else we got?

I like the way you do that.

Sleepers.

Sleepers?

You were probably sleeping on something.

That guy's a fool, yo.

That's a long.

It's six and a half minutes.

That's all it took to put the time around?

Yeah.

I I just needed to double myself.

No, some of the shit was.

I'm just.

And that's you giving them cold.

Yeah, I'm trying to help.

I ain't have to.

You think I wouldn't have said cold?

I'm not sure.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

It took six and a half minutes to get the Quavo.

No, look how long it took to get to Cardi.

My brain just wasn't.

Your 30 got a bunch of bums in it, though.

I didn't say that.

You ain't say 30 great rappers.

I paid you already.

It's over.

I'm just adding additional commentary.

Your 30 guys.

Let's get a wrong plus for Joe Payton on time.

Stop the meeting.

I didn't think that was going to happen either.

We should clap every month for Ramis.

I'm not talking about Betsy.

I'm talking about bet.

I'm talking about your gold.

That's not true.

Boy, you got to get the first time.

No, it's not.

Look,

that's

all things that nigga was.

That ain't time.

If you had to get in front of your shit and put the ADP payments in.

Oh, that just make you wait just for shit to get in.

Yeah, yeah.

You're a nutcase.

We be getting paid on on the eighth.

I owe my trainer two months some money right now.

Just cause.

And still expect to see him every week.

I ain't gonna lie doing some stuff.

You know it's dead, dog.

Don't be thirsty for it.

And yo, you start feeling defended when nigga asks you.

Like, yo, stop playing, man.

Oh, no, don't ask me for it.

Like, stop playing.

If you ask me for it in an uncool way,

you got to find the coolest way to do that.

No, some of my niggas hit me like, yo, dog, I got to pay XYZ on the second.

I'll be like, fuck it.

You had to bring the bills into it.

You want your kids in it?

This is some bullshit.

I think for my sleeper, I'm going with

where the fuck is this song?

God damn it.

Let me find my damn sleeper.

Dude, I'm going with a Coco Jones record.

Okay.

That record should be tracked two on her project.

Coco Jones should heat.

Oh.

New project?

Here we we go yeah new project

a new one on yeah well the deluxe

okay okay uh here we go Coco Jones this record is called on site

I

wanna lay

with you all night

And never

let

me cry

when you save

on side.

Don't lie,

tell me not to leave.

Tell me what you need.

My heart is all asleep.

Come and sleep, come and sleep, baby.

If you talk like that is home,

don't sleep after all.

Is that what you want?

Push it on the side, put it on the table.

Why don't you just come over when you ready, baby?

Said you want somebody that can put it on you crazy.

Why treat you better all these other bitches lazy?

If you didn't know, baby, I'm the real ass.

Don't give me the run of rhyme, tell me what the deal is.

I can make this moment feel like a lifetime.

I

wanna lay

with you all night.

And I will dance and we cry

when you say

on time,

don't lie.

Don't show me what you mean.

Don't hide your feelings

from me.

Oh, no, no,

no, no.

And I know you can't believe

that you're so ever pretty

just gotta love.

Push it on the side, put it on the table.

Why don't you just come over with you ready to label?

Said you want somebody that can put it on you crazy.

Why I treat you better, all these other bitches lazy.

If you didn't know, baby, I'm the blessed.

Don't get me don't run or grind, tell me what the deal is.

I could make this moment feel like a late

time.

I

wanna lay

with you all night

and never

let

me pride

when you save

you on side

don't lie

on side

That's brand new music from Coco Jones

or brand new old music

either way, it's on the album, it's on deluxe.

That record is called On Sight

Available in your phone and on DSP right this very second.

Shout out to Coco Jones.

Hey.

Hey.

Yo, shout out to all RB artists that are still providing music that you can make love to.

Coco Jones.

Coco's Fire.

Coco's Fire.

I'm going to Atlanta.

This is two chains, Deadbeat Moms off the Red Clay soundtrack.

Turn me up.

Turn me up a little bit more.

Turn him up.

Anytime and if nigga keeps saying that in the booth before verse come on, he's about to get busy.

He's about to get busy.

Better turn me up some more.

Yes, sir.

Good cop, bad cop, good dad, bad.

The good die younger end up in jail.

Single parent household with no mother.

My homeboy had to party train his daughter.

Damn, B moans at a all-time high.

Dead B moans at a all-time high.

Damn,

IG pays filled with nothing but lies.

Did it for the gram, bitch, I thought you knew.

It's hard to help somebody in some brand new shoes.

Mine don't matter, you can do that shit.

Give me a hundred pounds, I can move that shit.

Travel with my mama out my apartment unit.

And hookin' boxing shorts when I'm in the middle of the morning.

Might get a text from a J asking for yay.

When you was watching the throne and looked at me, I had the only felon knee on disturbing the peace.

Skills sent on the rise.

I retired from pies.

Bought a couple of P's, got a couple of eyes.

Who gon' take them kids to school?

Need the burrow ties.

Made the track breathe easy like we in Le Mans.

This the takeover flow, family still gotta eat.

No matter who in the church, the preacher still gotta preach.

Two pistols under the seat, a girl tripped to the beach.

Now, how you fly, and your kids ain't got nothing to eat.

See, that ain't none of my business.

I'm just saying what I see.

My partner had a more daughter, taught her personal hygiene.

Heard she just had twins, name shell and Celine.

Now that's a whole lot of baggage if you know what I mean.

Leave me alone, no rabbit, rubber, rabbit.

She said, Leave me alone, no rabbit, rubber, rubber.

Leave me alone, yeah.

He said, Leave me alone, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good cop, bad cop, good dad, bad.

The good die younger end up in jail.

Single-parent household with no mother.

My homeboy had to party train his daughter.

Deadbeat moms at an all-time high.

Dead beat moms at a all-time high.

Has two chains, Deadbeat Moms, off his red clay soundtrack, which is fire.

Go out and cop that now.

Yo, I'm going to um

that was some of the best.

That was some of the best shit I heard in a while.

L.

Hay.

And, Mark, you don't have to run off to the side to laugh at a good concept.

It's just a concept.

It's not really a woman standing right there,

not taking care of her seed.

Yeah, no,

I think he's right.

I agree with the flow.

I agree with the content.

I did, but it was fine.

I was laughing at what Amani was saying to me, which is unrelated.

No doubt.

Imani was funny.

Well, what did he say?

I said it's all good.

You don't

know what you're saying.

Oh, no, I disagree with that.

I get it.

I'm trying to play some

quality RB.

Get us out of here.

L.

Hay, the song is called Touch Featuring Gold Link.

Let me buy you a drink.

Girl, what you thinking?

I'm not falling in love.

It's more like I'm sinking.

I'm

hush, can't wait to let my lips touch.

She wanna dance, I'll be your man.

Just for the night, I'm yours.

Let me

don't stumble and just tease me, babe.

One more drink, and we face to face, huh?

I see the way you're moving, you so fly.

Wanna leave here, see what happens tonight.

I want you in the worst way, babe.

You're back, yeah, to send this flag.

Tonight, you're my inspiration.

I want more drink just to taste ya.

Girl, I want you face to face.

You used to waste

me.

Buy you a drink.

Girl, what you thinking?

I'm not falling in love.

It's more like I'm sinking.

Hush, can't wait to let my lips touch.

She wanna dance.

I'll be your man.

Just for the night, I'm yours.

Let me buy you a drink.

Girl, what you drinking?

I'm not falling in love.

It's just for the weekend.

I

Hush, can't wait to let her lips touch.

She wanna dance, I'll be your man.

Just for the night, I'm your friend.

So, what's up, you?

Come around often or what?

So, what if I do?

I mean, I'm just saying I haven't really seen you around here before.

Maybe you're not looking hard enough.

Listen, shawty, I'm just trying to build with you.

Put it out there, I wanna make you feel something.

Baby, girl, you got a nigga wanna come around.

Stay a while while I get you 20 rounds.

Put it down, run you down like a nigga supposed to.

Beat it up, eat it up, treat it like I'm supposed to.

Tongue down, fuck it from the time I make my dough spoof.

Got a nigga signed like I'm tryna make a bold move.

Sorry, my lady, I got caught in the days that you know.

Talking about hitting them corners, switching lanes in a four.

Series be my own black tenant, windows on low.

Speeds beating up the 105 with seats on the low.

But what's your eddy?

I ain't tryna meet the daddy.

I just wanna make it nasty while I'm in your daddy's daddy.

What's up?

I wish the two-oh, while my hands are on her, but talking dirty while we get about this club

and gold link

touch

that's tough.

I fuck with that song.

It's one of my favorite songs off the LA project.

Hey, Mark, you with us, Sylv?

Yep.

You got something you want to play for the people?

Oh, you didn't get it?

I did.

Oh, yep, yep, yep.

Just setting you up to introduce

it.

Gregory Abbott shit don't come in MP3.

You didn't get it.

You can't just.

Yo.

Nah, it's Python Freeway.

That

John Batiste album is pretty good, but

I want to get to it.

It's an amazing cover.

I didn't get to John Betty.

No, RD did like half of it.

Oh, I'm there.

And he's not making the, he's like producer-producing.

Like, he's still got the band, but he's producing.

Yeah, no, I'm getting to that.

It's dope.

His last album was dope.

Yeah.

Well, my choice was Bodies, which is offset, featuring Jit.

Okay.

My shit.

Assholes.

Here's a sweeper we debuted.

And talking on top of it.

And had the artists on.

It's alright.

Before I got money, I wasn't the truck kicking dogs, and I'm just being honest.

If you want more, then we cook niggas up like an omelette.

I'm just being honest.

Throw me a 60 if I go to magical honest.

I'm just being honest.

I keep my stick or blicky in case it gets sticky, I'm just being honest.

In case she know that I'm with it, I'm having this chick and this trick, and I'm just being honest.

I'm with that, who really get it?

Be honest.

Hey, posture be giving, be honest.

She red like a brand, I got rats in the back, and these bitches be hooked like punners.

I up in my rank, cause I got niggas, brain niggas.

Shh, death for this on them.

I think these niggas forgot where I came from.

Cause I got matching to match it with late front.

I pull up portion, I think I'm J-bunner.

Turn into smokers, no bagger, no bag on.

Niggas be biting, they buyin' like Tyson.

Niggas got sticks, they got glocks, we ain't fightin'.

And start up with water, then start up with riot.

Shoot at the club, and then shoot at your partner.

Then shoot at your block, and then shoot at your house.

Feeling like Bobby and if I put right good if I catch it, I'll cut his talk out of the mouth.

I go to South Africa and to me to hear the words come out my mouth.

Go on my bang, bitch, I'm from the south.

I run the dock, I'm gonna get you some clouds.

Let the body see the floors.

Let the body see the floors.

Let the body see the floor.

I put a million dollars into Pikes.

I got it, uh.

I picked up a stick, don't make the heart.

Pick up a bit, pick up a part.

I feel like a pit, but all bite.

No bark, quick to remarks.

Your busy bullet, you go in the darks.

Unlimited pool and attacking the target.

I'm tagging a toe and I'm tatted.

Somebody, I'm breathing fire, burning dragon.

Somebody, if he need a homie, they promise a homie.

Just hand me the hammer and here right beside me.

I'm hopping and ride inside of Sahemi.

The cop is behind me, this time and it's shitty.

Why niggas shooting at Ricky, no running back and forth, he clapping the 50.

He cracking the 40, I'm back in the city.

I'm headed to four, only warp is with me.

Lord can get me through whatever endeavors.

It's JID, baby, I'm just a few letters.

Take a look, I'm about to break a record.

Put me in a book, I'm bound to be the level.

All about the effort, I'm putting in legwork.

Early in the morning, count money to my head.

Hurt niggas being funny, we could put them in a red shirt.

Five in the chest like an Ant-Man Ant-worth.

Live in the red, live in the flesh.

I manifest $30 signal.

I could collect.

I could look in the face of a threat.

But never never sweat you sweet.

Get out of the streets when niggas doing a sweep.

That's why I'm not bringing the twist up to his beats.

My ties are coming with Keith, to his beast.

Cops firing niggas as retin, eating cheese.

Another day on the keys, make them fall to the knees.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

Let the bodies hit the floor.

That is offset and JID bodies.

One of my favorite records of the summer for show, for sure.

That is not a sleeper.

That was hard.

Not really a sleeper, but I don't care.

I love the record, so

fuck it.

And there are some people sleeping on it somewhere.

I'm sure there is, yeah.

In announcements that have nothing to do with nothing,

that offset album, into Gunner's album, if you have enough time on your car ride or whatever, that Gunner album has been just, oh my my Lord, it's been that offset into Gunner.

I can't lie, it's been both of them.

Okay.

It's a smooth transition.

Like, they share a sound, but

one is a little more lit, and Gunner shit is a smooth, just

Ashley.

I'm ending with some Gunner, man.

Fuck they talk about

this record right here.

This Gunner Burner, boy.

That's one.

Two,

just as I suspected, Pharrell and these Adidas niggas is going to spend all of this time promoting the Pharrell Jellyfish Adidas collab, and then I wouldn't be able to get none because they only made 400 pairs.

If anybody knows Pharrell,

if push it to you or Malice are listening, can somebody help me get a pair of the orange Pharrell jellyfish, please?

Jesus.

And the black beret while I'm at it that I've been asking for forever.

And now every nigga nigga at InvestFest is wearing a black beret.

They're trying to ruin the vibe.

Now

when I'm out with it, niggas might say they go Richard.

Like,

we can't have that.

We can't have that at all.

Stop stealing the swag.

Never, nigga.

Never.

Ever, ever, ever.

That's your Steve Harvey honor, boy.

Steve Harvey?

If I wore that, yeah, clear the back out before I come in there.

Everybody just can't share presence with this peach silk suit shit.

Oh my god.

He hit a miss.

The other day he hit a home run.

Oh, I ain't seen a miss in a while in some years.

Yeah, he missed sometimes.

He used to miss a lot back in the day.

I think he's got a stylus in the last 10 years has really got him real fly.

Not a stylus.

His stylus is him.

Got you.

Okay, I don't know.

Yeah, that's what.

Well, you clearly aren't in the fashion world.

That's what I said.

Not at all.

But he's killing it.

Take a joke.

Oh, damn it.

Keep trying to make him crack.

What y'all doing this weekend?

Anything fun?

Oh, wait.

It's not Friday.

Nothing fun.

What are y'all doing this week?

Studio, studio, studio.

I got the free jerk chicken shit today.

Oh, shit.

Down in Brooklyn.

That's dope.

Brooklyn, yeah.

Providing for the community.

I said you're doing good, good, good.

Do you have an all-access band?

Or are you just roaming around where you smell jerk chicken at?

All that, all that.

Are you actually going to be there talking to the chef or somebody, or are you just like roaming around?

Roaming around.

Yo, you gonna snuff me?

No, lie, no lie.

You are gonna snuff me, man.

Oh, man.

Where you and the dock popping up at this week?

I know y'all ain't bodied the speaking engage.

I know y'all looked at each other like, no, we gotta hit him again, me and you.

Me and you, this is the team.

This is the squad.

This squad right here.

This is a squad right here, man.

You dark.

I'm waiting to hear you see that though.

You know, man, that the song right now is mad songs miss out in my life.

I got you.

No, I got you.

Don't worry about it.

What's wrong with you?

Shout out to Melon Freeze.

We miss you.

We miss y'all.

Shout out to Melon Freeze.

Y'all have jobs.

Hey.

Shout out to the freeze.

Listen, man, hopefully, you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you.

Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until next time.

We bid you a due farewell.

Adios, Cereba Derci, Asta La Vista, Arvois so long goodbye.

A simple head nod will suffice.

Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past.

So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Last but not least, the baddies are insecure.

The stagnant women want to travel.

And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.

Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.

Ego.

Speak out in flames.

Cripples insane.

Same.

Stones in my chain.

Money, power and fame, power and fame.

Risking they like what he means to me, buying my game,

I got it, giving them ways.

I got it, I got it.

One of them days,

stuff on shopping rain.

Stuff in the stone, hit on my chain.

Same time, same place this weekend.

Y'all holding down out there.

Sleep with the Mayback Pillows.

The rug on the floor, chin chillin.

Chinchilla, chin chillin', chin chillin'.

no Joe Bunny.

You've never heard of Joe Bunny.

JVP, JBP.

Where would you be without the JBP?

We'll fold that up right now.

Don't look away now.

We'll see.