Episode 854 | "UnEmmy Like"
The latest episode from the JBP leads with Joe discussing Ish’s appearance at Invest Fest this weekend (5:10) before turning to a conversation of must-haves when building a new home (30:37). In new music, Joe starts with sharing his thoughts on Chance the Rapper’s album ‘STAR LINE’ (44:35) before turning to Teyana Taylor’s new release ‘Escape Room’ (57:02), Offset’s ‘KIARA’ sparks a debate on relationships (1:03:28), and BigXThaPlug’s country-infused album leads to a discussion on the genre and the use of writing camps (1:28:40). Also, Lil Nas X was recorded walking down an L.A. street and has since been hospitalized (1:53:56), Jussie Smollett’s ‘Netflix’ Documentary (2:13:22), Target’s CEO is planning to step down (2:20:53), Jake Paul & Tank Davis are slated to fight on Netflix as the JBP argues whether or not exhibition matches are good for boxing (2:34:07), and much more!
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Turn this thing on, man.
What you you smelling?
You smelling
tea tree oil?
Oh, that's not me then.
Oregon oil?
Actually, that might be me.
That oregon oil is strong.
What you do?
You keep it.
You got a speaking engagement and your voice is.
Hey, bleep that.
Cursing.
Cursing.
Trying not to curse.
Trying to better myself.
Somebody said I said, first four minutes.
I curse.
Somebody said I said the N-word 325 times last episode.
You say that word a lot.
You do say that word.
All jokes aside, you do say it a lot.
We should stop saying it.
I concur.
We should stop saying it.
Well, at least so much.
I calmed down a lot with the B-word.
Congratulations.
A lot, a lot.
Not bought.
Tell him.
You just said
74 times referring to it.
I'm talking about on camera.
Oh, on camera.
But we're talking about just
in life.
In order to cut it down.
For real.
Stop playing with us.
In order to cut it down on camera, you probably have to cut cut it down in real life.
How come only I got to...
I did.
A lot.
How come only I got to take in the things that you tell me as a friend to help me improve, but when I tell you something, it's like snickered off.
The things I tell you to improve, I tell you off camera.
And we spoke on the phone the other day.
We was vibing a little bit.
Okay.
I was like, oh, shit, y'all, I remember how we used to talk.
How long y'all was on the phone for?
Three minutes.
That's not an ish conversation there.
Three minutes.
But it was a good three minutes.
I was like, oh, look at us.
I forgot.
You told him, Good night.
I'm just used to the whole camper shit.
No, I called Freeze the other night.
I told y'all.
Yeah, I called Freeze the other day after that long day and said, Yo, I'm just making sure your home is safe.
Tucked in.
I'm laying in bed, yo.
Good night.
Sweet dreams.
I couldn't stop laughing.
Why didn't you record?
I couldn't stop.
Yeah, you should have definitely recorded.
I couldn't stop laughing.
No,
that ain't funny.
Yes, it is.
It's hilarious.
Niggas driving an arrow away.
You in the bed.
Jump on some yo.
Just call and make sure you got in safe fam.
After dying hours of work.
No, that's hilarious.
Crazy.
That is hilarious.
How y'all doing, man?
Doing good.
This is the gang right here.
It is.
This is the crew right here.
Shout out to Belle Freeze.
They're taking it easy.
Bell Freeze.
Mars.
Mars never heard this early on.
Mamani, but still.
Still.
Shout out to the guys.
You're doing a trio, a trifecta today.
Listen, whoever was here, Joe Button was coming to work.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Joe Button was coming to work.
I'm a pro.
You know what I mean?
If it was me and my man,
it's going to be me and my man again, like back in the day.
Listen, man.
You know what I mean?
It's two of y'all dressed for a different occasion, man.
Me and Parks would be here holding the ship up.
That's it.
We always do.
Yeah, making sure the ship this shit.
Making sure it don't flood.
The ship is held up, nigga.
You got Noah's Ark.
Yo, I can't.
No, no.
Me and Parks.
Yeah, but Noah's Ark is lonely if it's only
three people on that motherfucker.
Noah's Ark was big.
It's got white people was humping sheep.
See, but you can't say that.
You gotta beat the girl gonna flag it.
You can't say that.
Yo, what's wrong with you, man?
Something's wrong with him.
It's that regular.
He hyped too.
You could tell
he acts like a person that never went out.
You hyped to get out early, huh?
You hyped to go talk.
Yeah, you got to put his chastity belt on.
One to 25.
I ain't going to lie.
You got to strap that thing up.
I'm looking like Captain Flannock, boy.
My boy is ready.
You got to take the opposite of the boulder pill.
It's always different.
My boy is ready.
You're gonna exaggerate.
You gotta say boy.
My boy is a doubt a few.
Yeah, I'm gonna be there.
Yeah.
I'm coming through.
I already know the vibe.
I've been getting the calls.
I'm getting out of there.
No, sir.
I'm in love.
I'm not leaving my girl.
And you bitches will snitch.
You got my flowers in my mouth?
I'm not even entertaining any of that.
Me neither.
But if I did, Wait, talk about wait.
You bitches would tell.
I love my girl.
I'm prepping for marriage, nigga.
Don't call me with some invest fest.
We out here, me and a few of the girls.
So you're not pulling up tomorrow?
No.
Corey said you might fly out tomorrow.
Because I told Corey, that's why I don't confide in him anymore.
You did, though.
I told Corey that for a split second.
See, now, if you was going to do that, I wouldn't have made the girl jokes.
But now look crazy.
If you was going to do that, I wouldn't have.
I'm sorry.
You keep putting the business in jeopardy.
You keep affecting the way the on-air concerts.
Anyway, what was I saying just now?
What was we saying?
About Corey saying you might come tomorrow.
No, for a split second, I thought about coming out there to support my man.
Woo!
Called me?
Like, when we hung up, like, we was vibing so much.
Oh, that's what you talked about for three minutes.
No, I called him trying to
be holding the ship up today
because he had a flight to catch.
I just wanted to know what time the flight was.
He hadn't communicated that with me yet.
So I called to find out because, you know what I mean?
I was running out of pots.
I was running out of pots and pans.
I had to call my man.
I was like, you know what, man?
He's all right, right?
I could fly in Atlanta and fly out the same day.
You could?
I could fly in that morning and boogie.
That's that money.
And depending on how many people was in the airport, I could do it.
I could just make it happen.
You could do the next day, too, you know?
No,
early.
I have no desire to spend the night in Atlanta.
Shout out to Atlanta, shout out to Atlanta, but I'm cool with all that.
I'm just cool on all of that.
Fair enough.
Ain't no four seasons.
There is a four seasons.
Yeah, there's four seasons in Atlanta.
Oh, I know.
Yes, you did.
You stayed there.
Where you staying at?
He's standing at some
time.
He's some fancy shit, they're saying the Motel 6.
Yeah, Motin, right?
I mean, right in Midtown, Motel 8, whatever the fuck you call it.
So then I changed my mind.
I wasn't going out there to support him because we ain't that fly.
So if I went out there, he would think I'm there for evil, and it might affect his performance.
That's true.
Crazy.
And if I seen something funny and I made a joke, then he would take it like I flew out there to get material to make jokes.
You might distract him on the stage.
Fuck that nigga.
That's what we're doing.
I'm on his ass, nigga.
I'm staying on there.
Nigga, I'm going this Saturday to be on this nigga ass, boy.
Just tape it for me.
Yeah.
Now I need you in there.
Whoa, whoa.
Tape it for me.
Nigga, if you walk in the building like the undertaker, I'm
a fake.
But if you walk in with your hands behind your back, just slowly.
Because this is the problem.
Let me help a little bit, and then I promise we'll start this part.
And I know you didn't ask for this help.
The trick is Friday night.
Go to bed, yo.
Yo, go to your room.
It's going to be a lot.
I'm telling me, though.
It's going to be a lot.
I'm telling whoever listening.
I'm talking to an audience of millions.
You like to be outside, you bitch ass nigga.
Yo, it's going to be a lot of temptation on your phone.
Shit, in the lobby, by the bar.
Then Troy gonna send out some, and then that monsters group chat on Instagram.
Like, it's gonna be so much temptation everywhere.
Some of the old work is gonna be out there.
Yeah, I mean, we gotta be militant in this.
Eat early, early, like early like the diet people eat before six.
Eat before six, go to bed, get your nourishment, exfoliate, wash your face so you can wake up ready to take on the next day.
True indeed.
That's why I didn't go to strip club last night.
Work the next day.
Yeah.
Enough.
Enough of that.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, enough of that.
Yeah, back to school.
It's cold in New York now.
It is.
Ooh, back at Grizzly Mole.
Yeah.
Cold in New York, back in that mold.
I need an Emmy.
I'm trying to win an Emmy.
We're trying to win the Emmy with you.
Yeah.
Yo, when you get in your little back.
Hey, y'all, hold on.
Let me just check you on something, nigga.
I'm a numbers man.
Like, stop playing like...
Your world.
No, no, no.
When we came, when you added Melana to this podcast, it was an increase in numbers, right?
When you added Mark to the podcast, there were increasing intellects.
Stop playing like niggas, everybody don't come here and add what they add.
Stop playing.
You talking to the right one.
You talking to a con.
I know you don't care about that.
That's your new thing.
I don't care about the numbers, but I do.
So when you come here, don't act like I can't contribute or me and my man-ish.
I'm throwing you in there even though you have nothing to do with it.
Can't contribute to you winning a fucking Emmy, nigga.
We're down with everything you're down with.
I'm here to support you.
I love you.
You, my brother.
Life Rath.
Help me rebrand.
Act like it, bro.
No emotion, nigga.
Act like it and support your man.
Because that's what I'm on today.
I'm on that.
Yo,
yo, respond, bro.
Yo, respond.
Yo, Don't respond.
Don't do that.
Respond.
Don't do that.
You do that to women.
Don't do that to a man.
I had to think and process what you said.
Yeah.
Because you made fair and valid points.
And I understand exactly where you're coming from.
And you're right.
When you and Mel got here,
numbers went up.
Shout out to whoever put that plan together.
Good God.
When Mark got here, numbers went up.
You're absolutely right about that.
Whatever brain trust came up with that one and put that play in effect,
shout out to that guy.
So
in the event that the numbers like stagnate at some point
and the boat is getting heavy,
right?
Because what we've seen at this company is
a trillion tolerance level.
I would agree.
I would agree with that.
I think to get where we're trying to go with the boat
is going to take discipline.
It's going to take certain behaviors to change.
It's going to take some maturity.
It's going to take, you know what I mean?
It's going to take some things.
So,
and I think this is the crew to help us get there.
I think we can win Emmy together.
I want to win Emmy.
Amani, you want an Emmy?
Amen.
Mike's not on, but yeah.
Want an Emmy.
You want Emmy?
Yeah, I do.
I'll speak for the gang.
I think we all want an Emmy.
I want Emmy.
No, no.
You work hard for that.
We can get Emmy.
Yeah.
I think that this is the crew
that can go get that Emmy.
I think it's right there.
I think it's our.
I think we're in the lead.
However,
if something happens along the way where the behavior is
un-emmy-like, detrimental to the Emmy,
tough decisions will have to be made.
You're going to put down O Yeller?
Some people.
Some people will have to leave the boat.
Like, no, are we leaving the boat?
The boat will get lighter.
We can wait till we hit the dock.
Thank you.
I was going to say, are you hitting the dock and leaving the boat?
Are you leaving, or niggas that leave the boat mid-ocean?
Musical chairs.
Musical chairs, big dog.
Wherever that spot is.
Ships rolling.
Let the action happen.
Then that's when the action has to occur.
I got it.
Say less.
Listen, I think in the next eight months, we can get 40,000 new subs, man.
I think it's right there for us.
And I think this is the crew to do it.
I do too.
However,
in the event that along the way some behavior happens
that's
un40 new sub, 40,000 new sub-like,
tough decisions will have to be made.
Got it.
Okay.
And it's not me now.
I got a board to answer to.
Like, I could want to fight for y'all.
Who the fuck?
That's a new line?
There is a board that I have
to scale this company.
That's fucked up, right?
See?
I got it as far as I could take it as a creator.
Now,
there are other people involved.
Yo, you want a board, right?
You want a board, right?
Yes, so then you don't gotta stay.
You could play good cop, bad cop.
Yo, you know, I tried, yo.
The board didn't allow me to
vetoed my, you know what I'm saying?
I wanted to.
Let me stop.
The board knew
the fuck out of here.
Yo,
what
Mike check 1212.
So happy to be here.
So blessed I could be here with y'all and y'all here with me.
Thank the Lord up above for everybody that came to work with me today.
And everybody that didn't come to work with me today, my heart is with you.
The night wind.
All the parents out there listening.
All the grandparents listening.
Legacy, legacy, all the great-grandparents listening.
Happy first time.
Shout out to the uncles.
Shout out to the uncles too.
Even the uncles that was going through things when you were younger, then your family tried to keep away, but
shout out to the people still going through it out there.
Shout out to the people fighting a silent battle.
Shout out to the church goers out there.
Buffalo Wild Wings, Outback Steakouts, and all that.
Fridays.
Chilies.
Chilies.
Applebees.
Always for the ladies.
Always for the ladies.
Shout out to the day ones and the last time listeners.
Shout out to the hate listeners out there.
All the happy couples, the miserable couples.
Shout out to all of you out there.
Oh man.
Shout out to the kids.
Shout out to the teachers back to school.
Please get these rug rats out of the home.
Everybody in the hospitals working, everybody in them dentists' offices.
It goes
vacation in the suck.
Shout out to those of y'all that are out of town, in them airports, traveling internationally or domestically.
That'll be me.
And these guys.
Yeah, fact, I realize I tell you.
Everybody flying, moving around, moving and shaking, man.
It goes.
Turning back the hands
of time.
Holding on to the steep memories,
chasing shadows through.
All the waiters and waitresses out there.
Time
All the Virgos out there Virgo season Virgo season Let's go Reaching out
all the therapists out there
All the bartenders out there's wrong inside
the hell lost time.
It's a period of magic.
Catch a mind.
It's not another time.
Okay.
It's the crazy.
Mike check one, two, one, two, man.
Shout out to Nita Baker and Babyface.
I hope y'all pieced that up.
What?
That ain't about nothing, man.
Go ahead and squash that, man.
It was on that tour about to kill each other.
Hey,
yeah, I mean, let me hear you out there.
Let me hear you out there.
You bring a
joy
when I'm down.
I'll show much
joy.
When I need my way, your love comes smiling on me.
Yeah, I mean, everybody out there cleaning the crib, shout out to those of y'all that got a broom and no dustpan.
Now you're using the mail.
You gotta do that out.
You gotta cold cards.
Gotta get that cardboard out.
Yeah.
Shit is tough, but it's effective.
Now I mean, you know where we come from.
Yeah.
Hey.
Everybody got that motherfucking Lemmy Soul out.
That uh, what's the other shit?
Lemisoul.
Fabuloso.
A fabuloso, nigga.
No, Lemmy Soul was the other one.
Lemmy Sol was.
Solos for the box.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, mistola.
Mistola.
Mistola.
Mistoline.
Yeah, yes, yes, mistoline.
Mistoline.
Thank you.
Look at you, nobody.
That good grapefruit, mistoline.
Yeah, I mean.
Lemisoul.
Yo, ish.
You are a sick off.
I'm a sick off.
You are.
Yo, clean with.
Yo, look where your mouth is.
Clean your floors with vagina soap is fucking nuts.
Your floors need that pH right.
Yeah, I mean, shout out to those of y'all still dushing out there.
Hey.
That's bad.
Don't dush.
Dushing is not healthy.
Get some apple cider vinegar and soak it in the bath water.
How old do you think women are when they learn like just how to take care of their vagina?
Serious question.
It depends on the jagging.
It's just guys in it.
Y'all know all jokes.
I think it depends on who your mom and your aunts and them are.
Exactly.
A lot of y'all pH battles be thrown off.
You know what I mean?
You gotta eat that pineapple.
You gotta get that pineapple.
I'm gonna wait for my mic to come off.
You gotta get that pineapple, yo.
You got to.
Gotta eat the fruits.
Sparks, how are the beer drinkers boxed?
I'm sorry?
The women that drink beer.
How are they?
The women that kick back legs.
It's hit and miss.
It's hit and miss.
Sometimes it's fire.
Y'all depend on if they drink Corona or salmon.
Depends on the beer.
That's a very good point.
What about get nothing too hoppy.
Don't get nothing too hoppy.
Oktoberfest.
What about Heineken?
Not great.
Not great.
Not great.
That's not the one you want.
No bitter beers.
No IPAs.
No Guinness.
No, no, no, no.
Nice light beer, though.
Oh, yeah.
Look, Coronavirus.
I'm glad we have an expert here.
Let me keep this applause going for the best crew in the world.
Hold up right quick.
Flip and E.
E.
E.
E.
Buddy.
Big E.
Big E.
What up, what up, what up, what up, y'all?
What episode is this?
854.
Welcome to episode 854 of the Joe Button Podcast.
I'm Joe Button.
Hi.
Hey, Joe.
Hey, everyone.
One week away.
Hold up.
One week away.
Yes, sir.
Big 45.
What was that?
You said you broke something?
Yeah.
I broke the charger.
Broke the charger.
Yo.
Still.
Calm up there.
What?
I didn't hear you.
Still looking at coffee stains.
Oh, yeah.
This is a disrespectful crew up here today.
And your fam.
Oh, shit.
They got one.
That shit look crazy.
It looks like he's going to put an ashtray on that shit.
It's part of the, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's part of the trillion tolerance level that we have over there.
That goes along with the the trillion dollars.
It's a trillion level.
We're not going to win the Emmy like that.
Not without that chair.
You know what I mean?
And not with that attitude.
No, I'm just saying.
We got to.
Come on, you guys.
You get to the bag, baby.
Yeah, I know.
You get to the bag.
Don't skip over that.
You said you week away.
Huh?
A week away.
A week away from that.
Yo, what are we wearing to your fucking party?
What do you mean, what are we wearing?
You put on the flyer thing.
Don't look stupid, which I'm...
That's what I'm saying.
I was like that last year.
Niggas still came looking stupid.
That's true, too.
No, stupid is relative.
They thought that was they shit.
But let's make it clear that.
I want to wear a tux, but I don't want to be the only one of the tux.
The people that mattered didn't look stupid.
Okay.
That's true.
Is anybody, are you wearing a tux?
I'm wearing a suit.
A suit?
Okay.
It's a little late.
The tux and the suits is how you're able to tell the supreme team from the non-Supreme team
in the club.
But yo.
The niggas would get in the picture and then the niggas just, all right, I got you.
I mean, that, yeah.
Should have told niggas like a couple weeks ago.
I should have told niggas what?
That that was the angle.
Go-ish.
That what was the angle?
You talked about it in a week.
Tux.
You could.
You know, he liked to do that.
I feel like the people that know me, right?
Like, how you thought we was stepping?
That's a good question.
The people that know me, how you thought we were stepping?
To ease point.
Well, I'm doing an outfit change.
Did you beat it?
Did you Google the establishment?
I don't know what I'm saying.
No, nigga, we don't do that.
I don't know.
We trust you.
We're not in your business, nigga.
Well, if you trust me and you know me, we know he's not about to be in no bug shit.
Where do y'all think this event is going?
Where's the established force?
That's not to be said.
I mean, I don't know where it is.
You don't know.
You're right.
I'll send you the fly.
Yeah, but it's not.
I mean, how y'all thought I was coming?
Pause.
Honestly.
Is it too late?
Like, this is for the other people.
This ain't for nobody to know me and been seeing me all year.
Is it too late to get a soup?
No, man.
Go right to Portobello.
That's your fucking mom.
Nigga, she's about child.
It's kind of late, but
this is a private event.
This is bring your lady out.
You can totally soon.
Yeah, this is black gown, black dress, black tie, blazer, something.
You said a private event.
Yeah, it's a private event.
The dinner portion, right?
You dying to sneak some dimensions.
Because you've been saying for the past 30, you've been saying for the past 30 months that you was about to go up, call up all your ladies, boom, boom, bring them out.
You were saying that for a minute.
Oh, you think he ain't him no more?
Just say that.
If you're not him no more, just say that.
Oh, then I'm not him no more.
All right, that's peace.
I have zero problem saying, I'm not holding on to old times.
I'm not here to say that.
Bring him out, bring him out, bring him out.
What I noticed when I send the invites out, which is just funny because these things kind of take on a personality of their own, is a lot of the people are just from
different business sectors in my life.
So
I don't want this year to take on the same personality as last year.
It shouldn't.
I don't.
It should look and feel.
Google the place.
I've seen this place.
I know.
I got to Google it.
I'll Google it.
You got Google, right?
Yeah.
And you know who I be, right?
I do.
And you know your suit size, right?
No, me today, not dude that was running with the rocks.
Oh, we should do a
tank-top-themed party.
Everyone comes in the tank.
That's fire.
Put some nest shorts.
Cut some little holes in your shit.
Dinge on the bottom.
Now it could be clean.
It could be clean ones.
It could be designer tanks.
It's not authentic.
We don't have to do hands on one.
And the girls aren't going.
The girls might be into the tank.
You know what I mean?
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To my right, Big Queen's flipping the building.
To his right.
Antoine Ish King Wawa is in the the building to his right.
Amani, Big E, cancer-free, makes a noise.
Bing.
Cancer-free, free of that BC.
Fuck that BC.
Fuck that BC.
Beat that BC.
Got it up out of there.
Pulled it out, huh?
Pissed it out.
Pissed him out.
My man, Amani, is in the building to his right.
Parks, Elmiris Finance is here.
Next to him, Big Poe is here.
Corey is here.
I'm wearing shorts today.
Feeling yourself, huh?
Short legs.
You feeling cute, Mike delete i think a knee's all glassy
lotion you use
big erickson is here savon and tan are here by remote last but certainly not least each and every one of you guys are here what's popping what's popping what's popping am i tripping or was it your government name on the flyer for the uh it was this was in parentheses though oh it was it's one of them yeah
don't do that don't try to go do rebrand just rebrand yo what's up with you
now honestly talk to me today yo fam i don't have anything to do with that man.
Don't
you let them do that?
I didn't know.
It's not my.
Yes, it is.
You got to get a nasty thing.
You got to get approval how to use your name, though.
That nigga trying to be Antoine Margaret.
Yeah, he is.
Now you want to be that.
A.M., Mr.
Mark.
A.M., me.
A.M., nigga.
A.M., yo, M, what up, boy?
That's kind of nasty.
I slap you, M.
That's kind of nasty being Antoine Margaret.
That's just kind of nice.
When he steps away from here, that's Antoine.
That wasn't my thing, bro.
Sure.
Let's fly, though, nigga.
Don't worry about these niggas.
That's not possible.
listen.
Oh, you have all my support.
No, you see, even the other niggas, remember you called their governments out the other day?
I don't think they wanted that neither.
Okay, sorry.
Sorry.
No, no, I'm just saying, like, I don't think that I think that the people, you know, doing it did that shit.
Oh, putting it together, guys.
Instead of putting niggas' nicknames or people's
entertainment aliases, they use niggas' governments.
Rolando turns.
Okay, but are you ready, though?
Ready for what?
To sit down and talk, nigga.
Yeah.
I sit down and talk.
Yeah.
Nah, for real.
Are you in the mirror right now?
This coming up.
This is fun.
Look in the mirror, nigga.
All right, y'all.
Listen, man.
I got a flight tonight.
This is just my airport lay real quick.
Take them contacts out y'all.
You know what I mean?
New Sacconis, new Soccones.
My own merch on me.
I'm a businessman.
This nigga's so stupid.
Biggish.
Don't eat no spaghetti before you go out there.
Yeah, bro.
What's wrong with you, dog?
I just want to know if my man is ready.
Because whatever you do, it's going to come back on me.
You know, Street's going to tell me.
I want you to go out there and kill it.
But go to bed at night.
Put the phone on DD.
Do your Blackberry still got DD?
Get some sleep.
Eat.
Take your vitamins.
get some vitamin D.
Yeah, I mean, put the honey pack down,
wake up early, read the paper, the Atlanta Daily, whatever the fuck bigger they got out there.
The Tribune or something.
Yeah, some bullshit, and then go get in your bag.
That's all I'm saying.
Hey.
Oh, there goes gravity.
Up there goes gravity.
That's so stupid.
It's going to represent JBP, right?
I think so.
And he gonna represent himself, right?
Most
of the time.
That's first, but you make it clear with him, right?
You're going to go up there, project his voice.
Yeah, you make it clear with him, right?
Make what clear?
You make it clear that he's going to represent himself right, right?
If he would have said Flip gonna represent the JBP right, you would have sat on that particular statement.
But with Ish, make it clear with your man.
You got some type of Napoleon complex
niggas?
I do, yo.
You got, I don't know.
I don't know if he actually.
What's up with you?
I do.
I do.
But where does it come from?
You.
I've shown you nothing but love, love, and respect.
Where is it coming from?
Flip, you just got it
You had it before coming up here.
Maybe.
But
a pin is magnified.
Yo.
Yeah.
Make it clear with niggas.
I'm telling you, one day
Kane just went in the room with the bunk bed and was like,
I don't really fuck with this nigga.
See, we've interpreted that story wrong.
Like, he's been made out to be the bad guy for killing his brother.
But
what if his brother was all total bullshit?
Like, you don't have to like your family.
It's good.
That's all.
Like, you could just be great for business.
That was making it hard for us to separate.
Yo,
I need this infectious energy.
That's an idiot, bro.
I'm bullshitting, of course.
How y'all doing, man?
We're doing good.
Feeling great.
That's crazy, man.
He bought it that shit.
Yo, you're breaking.
Well, water beds.
Back in the day, my brother thought he was doing something.
It was a little water ball, man.
Back in the day, niggas thought he was doing something with them water beds.
It was a little stony.
There was some more shit they sold us that they shouldn't have.
Yeah.
They did.
Sex on the water bed,
sex on satin sheets, and sex in the shower.
All the same.
Saturn sheets are definitely.
They are all in the same box.
All in the same box.
No pun intended.
Yeah.
They are definitely all over there.
Pun intended.
Yeah, no, it's true.
You get one of them good showers, though, that's kind of...
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
If your shower is built for that double design, big spaceship.
With the hoses that come all the the different time.
Like 5-7 and up.
That's the one you need to do.
Okay.
The shit with the seat.
Yeah, man.
What's your perfect shower look like?
No tub.
I'm ODing on the heads.
No tub.
Yeah, mad heads.
Yeah.
Dual heads everywhere.
Yeah.
No tub.
No.
Tub on the side.
Maybe.
Yeah, no, shower.
No tub.
I need to talk to my house, period.
Nah.
Nah, I need to talk about my house.
Even if I don't use it, I just want to look at it.
21.
In about three more years.
Epson soak joints.
You're going to have Epson in the top.
Yeah.
That's because he's too tall to even hit the sexy shit.
I can't fit in no tub.
You got to be in a super big tub.
They got him.
That nigga.
He's goofy as hell in that.
Out the warm deep shits.
Yeah, those are fire.
Those are fire.
And you got that spanky?
You come up with that.
Damp, sit your legs at the top like a bitch.
Skinny ass white legs.
Hanging off the white jets.
It's a horrible tank leg.
That's crazy.
Nah, nice, spacious joint.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, with mad shower heads.
Yeah.
I don't want to build a house.
I just could see them robbing me, too.
I kind of like the wood shit.
I just want to see them robbing me, too.
I want some land somewhere.
You're going to go crazy.
I want to build a house, but I can see them robbing me.
I kind of like the wood walls shits too, like with the nice wood.
Cracked AI.
You want to build a house out here?
Yeah, I'm not leaving New Jersey.
I'm on it.
Where would he build it?
Not for the foreseeable future.
I'm not leaving New Jersey.
You can live in
by coastal.
You can.
You know what I'm saying?
It don't mean that you have to
Cool.
But when you want to go somewhere else for a little minute, you can have a home somewhere else.
We can just go out to the boonies a little bit.
But
I ain't going to build it.
I'm going to buy it over there.
The shit that you're going to be your primary residence.
You should.
That's the shit you want to.
Yo, I ain't going to hold you because I got a walk-in,
but that shit is trash now.
A walk-in what?
Closet.
And I thought that shit was all right when I built it.
That shit is caca.
Why?
That shit too small.
Whoa.
Like, yo, dog, when you shop, you know what I mean?
Well, I'm going to tell you.
that's that's the thing, yeah.
I don't know where
are you storing clothes.
I thought about that, though.
Yo, that shit is crazy.
Still got the bins, I'm sure.
I done went to seen some of them big, big, stupid houses and said, eh, closets, closets are charged.
See, I don't even want like a super big house because then you got to do shit with all the rooms.
Like, I just want a nice, regular-sized house.
What's regular, though?
In square footage, if you want to.
Maybe, like,
I don't need more than like three.
Three what?
Thousand square feet.
Yeah, but they ain't one kid.
That may be true.
How many square footage you want, Ish?
My girl's friend just built a house from the ground up.
And I think this shit is like 46.
That is ideal.
Like 4,500.
I got like 2,000 right now.
That's too much.
Like, where I am in my life, like 4,500 would be cool for me.
I don't need what you...
Look at his face.
No, I don't think there's.
anything.
No, your face is sitting there motionless like you got both eyes.
Yo, he laughed in the back, nigga.
Fix your face.
Don't paint me like that because I don't feel like there's anything wrong to say in this.
No, no, no, it's not.
It's personal preference.
My face is not.
I was just waiting for you.
How much square footage you want?
Nah, some of the people that
I look up to when we have these conversations, they be like, yo, you don't need.
Bro, I've seen what you lived in when you.
No, no, no, no, no.
I know that was a different era.
That was
That was a lot.
I get that it was a different era, but it's still a lot.
I don't want to go crazy.
I don't want to go crazy.
Give us your number, Paul.
My number, what?
Square foot,
square feet.
Eight.
Eight?
Yeah, 10, 12.
10, 12.
Do you know how that's in the sense?
It's 12,000 square feet.
It's a lot.
That's probably.
I want space.
That's probably bigger than
the shit over there.
Yeah, but it's 10,000 square feet that you're designing.
True.
Okay.
That's true, but.
So the rooms that you want
large,
you can get large.
Like, again, I've, I've gone to see the houses in the range that I'm
not the range, on different range that I'm talking about.
And I've left saying the bathroom.
Yeah.
But you can't be sure.
So building it is just
to your point, though, but even if you built it to your specs,
then the stuff that
Like your wife has different priorities.
For sure.
Oh, yeah, then her clothes got to go in the closet.
You know what I'm saying?
So, your wife might want this.
No, you have my wife has her own room in the own closet.
Now, like, if I was in something stupid, she'd have her own floor, probably.
So, your wife might want these things, and these are important to her.
Like, if your wife is a person that cooks, the kitchens be mad important to them.
We don't give a fuck about the kitchen.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't care.
I give a fuck about it.
The kitchen is very important to me.
Absolutely.
That is one of the more important rooms in the home.
That's the most important room probably for me outside of having a studio space because I like to to have a studio in the crib.
But I can do that in the basement or after.
Like, I don't need that.
As long as the kitchen is functional,
and it's cute, I'm good.
No, I need the kitchen to damn near be the centerpiece more than the living room.
Yeah.
And I need an off-kitchen.
Like, the kitchen should be
somebody to cook and move around.
I want one of those.
Yeah.
And commune at the same time while you're cooking, looking over, talking, and doing all that shit.
And a kitchen to host.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, exactly.
Like that little old.
The kitchen should be an extension of the living room or be like accessible to people.
And all of the new newly built houses or even houses that people are redoing.
Yeah, they always say, Y'all take that wall out.
Yeah, y'all want to take that wall out so I could see from the kitchen into the
living room or whatever commuting area.
Yeah, they always want that wall gone.
So I get it.
But for me, the kitchen ain't that.
I need closet space.
I need a little man cave.
But you could just turn any old extra bedroom into a walk-in closet if you want to really go crazy.
Yeah.
So that's not really that crucial to me.
I ain't going an off-house suite.
Yeah.
That's fly, though.
Yeah.
My spaceship.
I kind of want that for the studio.
For sure.
Exactly.
Like in the studio outside somewhere.
It's a lot, bro.
It is a lot.
I want an underground studio.
I'm going to
have her own
house.
Credit.
Wing or the guest house.
The way my shit is now, the basement is like the party spot in the studio, and that's dope.
Like, having that shit even in a separate crib would be even flyer.
Like, I've seen some shits in New York that I was looking at
setup like that.
Yeah.
I know.
I mean, you got it.
Yeah, dummy.
You like, you're a dummy duh.
Pardon me.
But no, that is, it's a good thing.
Make some noise for you bros doing good for yourselves.
Make some noise.
Make some noise for you brothers doing well for yourself.
Hey, you ain't like elevating.
You got to elevate my niggas.
Yo, you got to elevate.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
And not no service shit either.
Word.
Listen.
Yo, nigga, I'll just nigga just live in when it's low.
Clap with us so that fucking Emmy board hears a louder clap.
What you doing, man?
Yeah, come on.
This
i'm listening to you and these are the things that's important to me as well kitchen my wife loves the kitchen she wants an outside kitchen the same oh you know she
i don't know what that is but yeah i'm down with you yeah like you just inspire kitchen's tough yeah little grill little grocery
i'm not bad at that that's philosophy but i went to go see some house that was
Shit, and a house I was looking at that I had my eye on, the motherfuckers must have built it.
The price went up.
They be showing you them little CGI pics.
Talking about the oh, 14 million and 12 million.
That shit like 19 million now.
Whoopsie.
No, niggas wanted.
They wanted that marble flown in from Italy.
Yeah, yeah, they do that.
They do that shit.
And your cousin Big T putting them tariffs on all that shit.
I had to type in a whole different tariff.
I had to get out of there.
I had to type in Tennophly.
Tennifly.
Cluster.
Yeah.
Englewood Clips.
Engle shit is up.
I had to get out of there, boy.
Yeah, nigga.
Yeah, but Englewood Cliffs, you get it off for four, five, six million.
Them shit's nice over there.
Them shits over there.
Over where I was there.
Anyway, this is not the home improvement.
This is not the home improvement podcast.
That's cool for us.
Or could be.
And you're going to go build a house, have it beautiful, immaculate, thinking it's going to stay in your family.
You're going to die.
Your kids are going to sell that shit.
Quick as a bad.
Divy.
Divvy it up.
Your kids are going to want to get their hands on that money.
But you could also just buy something that's close and have them have Ish come through and fix that shit up for you.
Or you could just buy the house, put it in your trust, and say that y'all can't sell this shit.
My kids better look like they on the right foot before my deathbed.
Or some shit gonna get changed.
Yo.
I'm not gonna hold you.
I'm meeting you.
It better start.
No, the pieces better start coming together.
I'm just having this shit in the hospital, nigga.
I'm headed out.
Because if you got some fucked-up fingernails, you ain't getting shit.
No, both of you.
Both of them.
I'm not claiming that.
you are an idiot i don't know what this world gonna look like in 20 and 30 years i'm glad my mom got that piece like my mom got the peace of knowing that these two boys that she just seen be bad as hell different ways at different times in her upbringing made it got it a little bit that's dope that's good got it a little bit that's fine that's comfortable brothers killing that shout out to all the long all the long shoremen listening out that's what he is that nigga that fancy yeah i was out with them like still a month ago Yo, dude was bro.
That nigga pulled up.
He pulled up.
I said,
yeah, yeah, you know, I had to put the range over there because.
Nah, he's talking that talk.
Like, you got two cars?
Oh, pardon me, big dog.
Nice shit.
He adding on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice shit.
Decks and shit.
I'm like, damn.
Yeah, no, it's good.
I'm proud of him.
I should text him and say that.
No, I'm proud of my brother.
You should text him and say that.
He's going to hear it.
I should.
I'm going to be texting niggas.
No, he's going to hear that.
Text to your brother.
A nigga prefer a girl.
Text to your brother's gay.
A nigga prefer.
Text to your brother's gay.
It is a little little bit.
With encouragement?
A nigga prefer a text nigga than to hear it on the pod.
I'm not saying that he didn't.
If the nigga don't want to text his brother, I can't be.
No, I'm joking.
I'll see him at my birthday dinner.
But you're not going to tell him what you say.
Y'all probably.
Give him a big hug.
Say, yo.
I'm proud of you.
Proud of you.
Proud of you.
We're going to move around and go.
Shit.
Shit.
Niggas an idiot, bro.
I told my mom that she don't have to divvy the shit up 50-50, man.
Go ahead.
Give it to them.
She wasn't doing that anyway.
I know, but now I'm all right with it a little bit.
I understand.
Go ahead.
You got it.
I ain't even going to take him to court.
She read the article too.
I ain't even going to have an estate situation.
I'll tell my mother do that.
Niggas be taking their brothers to court for real.
What?
They do.
They'll do that.
And
people go to court.
That's what happens during that.
But I'm not trying to start morbid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I told her that that was my plan.
To take him to court?
Yes.
Because she was leaving him more shit and his name was higher than mine in decision-making.
But he's the oldest.
It was a thing.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't.
That's how that goes.
I don't.
So I was going to take him to court.
So, what changed it?
Like, listen, lady,
you'll be gone.
Park said, What changed it?
Yeah, what changed it?
The article, right?
Huh?
The article changed it.
I just think the love between brothers is
more important.
You just said Kane was justified for the record.
But
he was around Trey and Lexington.
You know, Joey.
Now you want me from Philly with the brotherly love now?
Now, nigga.
Yeah, you know.
The crazy thing about it is that you want your children to get along and split it evenly, but a lot of times it don't work that way.
I see a lot of issues like that, and they hold up the whole proceeding.
One child may hold up a whole proceeding for years, Parks.
Nobody gets anything.
But maybe they shouldn't be split up evenly.
But if one kid is doing really fucking well and the other kids are doing well.
Let me ask you a question.
God forbid, one of your kids.
And I'm not talking about general in general.
Say one of your kids was mad, irresponsible, right?
You got 30 million to leave them.
You're not going to leave Princess, JR, Nico 10 million apiece if JR has bad money habits.
I think I'm going to split it in three.
I've seen the family house go to the one kid that is now just like leaving beer cans and fucking ashtrays all around the crib.
Not paying attacks.
All of that shit.
You crazy?
And then it's that other brother y'all don't fuck with that's from somewhere else that popped up now.
Nigga hair a little curly than yours.
Hey, hey, when your dad cripped off on that business trip,
laid something down out there.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that brother pops up too.
But
y'all believe in taking something from the irresponsible child?
Don't you know that that will cause no.
Yeah, I don't believe in that either.
I think y'all figure it out.
I'll give everybody something evil.
I'll figure it out.
I don't believe that.
I'm gonna leave the bulk of the shit to the responsible kid that I know is the more morally cool one.
Yo, look, take care of your brother, man.
Right.
Listen, take care of your brother.
And that's for everybody.
Some niggas brother, take care of your sister.
Take care of you.
Listen, I'll tell you this much.
What they say,
what they say is
two places you should always be honest are the doctor and the lawyer.
The third one is on your deathbed.
On your deathbed, you get to really be honest about which kid really grinded your gears.
Which kid raising this little motherfucker, you got to really let them know now.
So,
yeah, and again, you know, I understand that, but nah, mom was supposed to split that up 50-50.
She lucky the plan worked out.
She lucky it worked out.
I got a confessional coming with my mom soon.
We're going to talk about it.
Oh, that's fine.
That's dope.
Yeah, no, I got to do it.
That's the judgment fair.
I got to do it.
All right.
Where would you guys like to start?
I was going to start with new music.
It was a lot.
Until I was so blown away by some old music.
Yeah.
And not old.
Let's talk about it.
Has anybody here listened to Chance the Rappers album?
About 50 times.
Love it.
I love that album.
Love it.
I heard he's in his back.
In his back.
This is damn near back to old chance.
I listened to it.
I just, when it came out, I just breathed through it it as in not listening to full songs.
Nah, there's some shit on there.
But letters record?
I listened to this whole thing now a few times.
Like, that's how blown away I was by the project.
On the first listen, I was like, oh, he's saying, it was too much.
He's saying too much.
Yeah.
So I got to listen again.
He was like extra lyrical.
It was some points in that album.
I was like, Chance could be challenging.
Malice is my rapper of the year.
At some points in this, Chance is rapping, like, yo,
I'm one of the best rappers in the world.
There's some high level.
That letters record is unbelievable.
The last record on there is unbelievable.
Oh, Lord.
Oh, my.
Oh, my.
I'm going to play some of this stuff.
But I just thought it was unfair because when he dropped his last project, I was one of the loudest voices to kick that project back in.
It wasn't good.
I was one of the first to say, Yo, dog, we don't want to hear all that.
I'm married, me and my wife, me and my wife.
Like, just shut up.
I was one of those guys.
So for him to bounce back like this and for me to not have an entire segment on just how phenomenal this project is, because boy, it's dope.
Yeah, I didn't feel right.
I didn't feel right.
And, and,
and,
because at some point on this album, very vulnerable from him,
he says,
And I'm freestyling.
I don't exactly remember, but he says, I lost the love of my life.
So now when I'm home alone, I feel dead.
It's like, damn, that's a heavy line.
But it's also whatever you went through is helping to produce this music.
Yeah.
It's sounding like this.
Potential, yeah.
Do we have to own some of that as like consumers?
Like, isn't that jacked up that artists have to go through that type of turmoil to produce for us to be satisfied and
send our way.
I won't say satisfied.
We relate.
I think that the problem.
I think that the problem is just the lack of honesty that comes maybe when things are going well.
Like when things are going well for people, they don't tend to dig deep into
their feelings, or they try to still be in some dark shit, but it's not legitimate because you're not going through that.
So I think just honesty in music in general is going to translate.
Well, I just think that,
and I'm not a creative, so I'm guessing.
But I think that when you're going through some shit, that self-reflection, that introspection, you could put that shit on paper.
True, you get what I'm saying.
When life is good, you like life is good.
Let me talk about Saint Trope and some other shit.
When life is fucked up, you start thinking about why life is fucked up.
And I think you just get into a different bathroom or a different mental space.
That's true.
I was in need.
I was in need.
I remember a long time ago.
This album is incredible.
It really is.
I remember a long
Production is amazing too.
That's why I tell you, everything, the way he flips some of these samples, especially toward the end with
speed of light and just a drop.
And the little kids don't got
no more.
They ain't even trying to free the old man no more.
One day there won't be no old man no more.
Mr.
Darn used to take the bus over from Halsted.
Mr.
Harper used to be so exhausted.
The barbershop bustler, bootleg, lacrosse fat.
They used to rub them on the hair that they can't grow back.
Clippers, buzzing, crying, grandbaby, boy, cousin.
The first cut, lil' man, quit all that fussin'.
God the father may love ya, the world doesn't.
Lessons in the strategies of love and war.
Chess boys and king magazines galore.
It's a lot less love than it was before.
See, this is early in the album.
You let me know what time it is.
This is this is three.
Oh,
this is fire.
This is this album.
Is hard, man.
Dear Emerald Avenue, Church of God.
I hope this message reached you well.
I wrote this with a broken heart.
See, recently, my auntie Carolyn passed away.
This song is incredible.
I realize that it's some shit that niggas just gonna have to say.
You think you outlasted?
That wasn't just my auntie in that casket.
You just buried KOK in Sunday school and classes.
The only saint you see on every Sunday season passes.
Somebody needs they ass kicked.
Who told you your gossips could be louder than your shout?
Who told you to walk inside this house like it's your house?
Who lied till you told you I wouldn't have nothing to say?
You think I want man on the end trip?
I'm on the way.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
Let's go, chance.
Dear mega church, I hope this letter finds you.
For I do.
Fund a new building.
I hide you.
I'll still be behind you.
Elaborate theatrics to blind you.
Nickel and dime you.
But I knew.
I've watched you worship idols, brand of Bibles, selling for double.
Brandish rifles, curse and libel.
With hold shelter from niggas first of all.
First ladies walking around with furs and title.
Watch you spit in a man's face and call it God.
But when it's really on your dogma, it's silent, Bob.
You just take them government checks and smile and nod.
I rebuke you in the name of the child of God.
I'll boil a pot of living water till it's scalding hot.
And pour it on the altar of the false fallen gods.
That means the church and the state.
I'm here to separate.
Y'all think I'm finna play with anything?
Matter of fact, I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
This is crazy.
Yo, this is this is
incredible.
This year, and this is incredible.
How on point it was.
I mean, we could start doing that now.
Yeah.
We can start doing that right now.
Was their anniversary.
Jesus was a teacher, King was a preacher.
Malcolm was a PK, and so was Aretha.
I say a little prayer with my hand on my heater.
You reaching, and I'm slanting off your ear like I'm Peter.
Don't lay down down now.
When you know that we at war, don't lay down now.
When there's fire at your door, don't lay down now.
When you know that they should fill a noose, knowing it ain't shit to lynch a Dylan roof.
Instead, you have to kill a loose and kick out folks that you can't handle.
Find more money, try to hide more scandal.
That light blow from the mob is not more candles.
These are torches to burn it.
Matter of fact, you gon' see we on our way.
We on our way.
Bro, goodness gracious.
Yeah.
I'm so glad Mark came up here and mentioned this because I was not going.
Mark?
No, no, no.
Well, Mark came up last joint and played a joint from it because I wasn't going to go listen.
Yeah.
From the last chance album, I was off it.
Nah, Park's part of it.
I played the park.
I played the record.
Mark had mentioned it.
I don't get my hip-hop from Mark.
Like, that's a good man and a good brother.
Mark is exactly who he thinks he is.
But I don't get my hip-hop from Mark.
Mark came up here.
Don't say that to me again.
Mark had came up here and mentioned
the chance album.
Before that, I was not going to go listen.
Don't double down in that shit, nigga.
You a moni.
You a moni.
Nah, that's a really amazing album.
Yo,
I got hit on top of the head with this album.
Amazing.
Shit is incredible.
Because now I got to designate time to listen to all of this music that comes out.
So I'm in the house just pressing play on shit through the sonos.
Change the speakers too.
Yeah, complain.
Go ahead.
I don't care.
I don't care.
Whatever.
Yeah.
Chance.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Sorry.
Sorry I didn't get to this sooner.
Sorry that you had to go through all of that divorce stuff.
This is the chance I was talking about.
Yeah.
This is the chance that we thought was going to be the next guy.
Yes.
I thought we was going to get like the next eight, nine years of this type of...
This album is ridiculous.
It's going to be tough for y'all to do end of the year album wrap-ups.
It is.
And
miss this.
Oh, no, it's going to be in the top five.
I got a weird little take on why people like this get that like their next project after leaving someone ends up being this great.
Like when I look at Chance, look at Tiana, look at the clips, we're pushing them.
Once they get away from Kanye, they just start producing different.
I feel like Kanye holds them in a certain...
Nah, yeah.
They still, no, they learn.
I think they took the thing that they did the things that they learned from him.
I feel
whatever it is, I feel like they go from that stage and that very next project after that just ends up being.
Chance wasn't under Kanye, though.
I'm not saying he was under, but he was highly influenced.
He was sitting over there.
They were doing a lot of work together.
I feel like at that moment, that's kind of where I got out of tune with you.
Yeah, but there's parts of this album where I feel like, oh, Ye is missing this.
Yeah.
Like there's certain pockets where the sound is
like that intro was with Chance and Kanye, but you can hear that that's chance.
That's chance, yeah.
Chance got back to his sound to me on this.
He did.
I don't know what that I love my wife shit was, but I feel really bad.
why
because it's fucked up as an artist that that has to happen but it's creative but but it does have to happen
but you understand you understand that more than most people
yeah and because of because of my understanding of it and because i retired and left it alone and won't even listen to probably half of my catalog more than half of my catalog i I just feel for the people that are in that.
Like there used to be times as an artist where you would say, all right, let me go let life life
just so this could happen.
where you think of the worst possible case scenario, yo, this girl that I love to death is just going to walk out, it's going to all go bad, and you're going to have to show face.
You're going to have to go in the booth and have that self-reflection that, no, you got to look at shit that as normal people, you don't have to look at.
Normal people, you could just go.
Normal people, you go to work, you come home, you stick to the program, and the machine is not really a point where you are forced into that level of self-reflection.
Well, a lot of times, I don't think you're forced to give it to the world.
But when normal people,
then you're not a true artist.
No, I was about to say, normal people that are not artists.
Oh.
Because you're saying normal people, like nine-to-fivers, they don't know what you're talking about.
No, no, no, but
I'm talking about artists
versus non-artists.
I'm saying if you're really an artist, if you're really a comedian, if you're really a, there's going to be a time where
you can't, you have to self-reflect
just for whatever it it is that you're doing.
So,
yeah, I feel I feel like
this shit sounds healthy.
Don't get me wrong, he's talking a lot, but it sounds healthy.
It sounds therapeutic.
But this ain't no breakup album.
There's
mad topics on here that have nothing to do with like that record right there has nothing to do with him breaking up with his wife.
The fucking song to his pops at the end has nothing to do with it.
But no, just the saying that and just the creation of it just sounds therapeutic.
The breakup might have led to this.
Maybe.
Because
you homemade.
We got an album when he was married and
happy.
True.
And
what we as a public did with it,
you thought that he'd never make another album.
And Joe, that could have been a facade.
If he was finished,
there's reports that show that it maybe wasn't.
Yep.
So, depending on whatever you believe.
I'm just saying, I'm happy to have this chance.
Let me not spend too much time and there's too much music that came out.
Chance.
Wow.
Salute.
Wow.
That's how you do that.
Yeah.
That's how you bounce back.
Amazing.
What album y'all want to get to next?
Uh, it's up to y'all.
I stayed up all night listening to that, Tiana.
Okay, Tiana, what did you think?
Tiana Taylor, brand new album Escape Room in your phone right this second.
How did you feel about it?
I enjoyed it.
I waited up for it.
I enjoyed it.
I really liked the songs.
The end, like the skits, the interludes.
I don't think I'm gonna go back and listen to them like that.
So I'll probably skip them just to get to the actual records.
There were some good ones on there, but I didn't really need all the interludes.
But the songs itself is fire.
The joint with Lucky Day is amazing.
Um, the Pum Pum Jump Joint with uh Tyler, Jill Scott, fire.
I like Tyler on there.
Um, and then the last record with uh her children on there and her daughter doing a poem to her mom.
That that hit me.
I'm listening to it like two in the morning, like, damn, this is some deep shit.
Where did it hit you at?
Stomach
and the goose.
Where the fuck
hit me, yo.
When dudes try to sound vulnerable,
yo, it was a beautiful moment, man.
It was.
You ain't like that.
That was amazing.
It was.
That was amazing.
That was fun.
That was fun.
This is final destination off that Tiana Taylor project.
I agree with a lot of your assessment.
The skits
or the speeches, we'll get to it.
Wait a minute,
and hell pray home.
Then let me round.
Listen, listen, listen.
I understood what she was doing with the women interludes and the story that she was telling.
So
hats off to her for that.
It kind of disrupted my listening experience a little bit.
It did.
I really enjoyed it.
Issa Ray, Issa Ray's skits to the shit.
I like though Tasha Smith drink was fire too.
Tasha Smith smoked it too, but she started with a few of those.
Like as I was listening, it was like speech, speech, song, speech.
And then, you know, her songs, some of them are going to be two minutes and 30 seconds long.
So, but once you get to the songs, the lucky day joins.
Shut up.
I think that's the name of the song I lie.
Shut up.
It's crazy.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me see.
Let me see.
Yeah.
Shut up.
Poom Poom Jump.
What's the other one?
I call you back.
I didn't even know cardiac produced Poom Poom Jump 2.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Cardiac.
In Your Skin.
The songs, the songs on here,
dope songs.
But I give it shit.
Again, somebody that recently went through a divorce or a separation.
And we may not be her demo.
And we'll be you.
No, no, we are demo.
No, I'm talking about she trying to reach them women that are in those spaces and having those poems.
But I don't feel like she's alienating us, even when she's
a lot of us could relate to her.
She didn't leave me.
I'm in Tiana's demo, and she didn't alienate me with the skits.
There was enough music there for me to be pleased.
Like, we come from Tiana's first project being six joints,
17 minutes or some shit, 25 minutes.
So I'm pleased.
She don't fall off.
She didn't skip her sound.
She didn't,
it sounds like her.
Remember, she was, she came here and I asked her, is some of that Janet feeling still there?
I hear all of that.
And if I'm in mind, I'm in mind my business.
But what I left this album saying was,
oh, Tiana's getting cracked more than we know.
I'm not walking away saying that.
You had to walk away saying that.
I'm walking away saying every song, she's telling you how she's getting cracked,
how she got here.
Well, to the middle of the album, she got to.
Yeah.
The beginning was kind of like speaking to just how the relationship ended up dying.
That's how she got to getting cracked.
Yeah.
In most of these songs, the theme consistent throughout this project
are: the themes are:
This is how that went, so this is why I'm here.
And now I am getting cracked
hourly
by this.
That's what it sounds like.
Every song.
It is a sexy album.
It's a very sexy album.
She's moaning half the album.
What are you talking about?
Half the albums?
What do you say, Moana?
How do you not walk away with it?
All right, whatever, man.
Whatever.
This is a dope visual.
Well, there's no visuals as far as you can.
Look at you horny as hell.
Look at you, horny.
What I'm just saying, so when you listen to it,
when you listen to the album, it's you can visually see the album without actually getting a visual.
Like, literally, everything, even the interludes, is setting up for you to see what's going on.
So, that's what I mean by visual album.
There's a tweet going around right now that say the worst thing you can hear her say during sex is, Oh, why are you me like this?
Because you know, she's about to ask.
That's a fact.
I like hearing that, though.
Stop it.
He must have got it removed.
He got it removed.
He already got that catheter removed.
I still can't do nothing.
I still can't do nothing.
Oh, you following the six-week rule?
You can't fuck for six weeks, right?
Is this shit working again?
Baby got us stitches out.
Move on, yo.
Who's going to get the first piece, though?
Yo.
I don't know.
That's important.
That is important.
That's important.
It is very important.
Because
you're sharing your body.
Taking my time.
take all right all right go go you you hooray you go
um tiana
i love it i can't wait to listen i didn't listen to it i love it there was a lot you knew i was gonna love it yeah i love it i do it's great album it's a great project i can't wait to listen she did her thing she did her thing and she still did all that Club music fast yeah she blended in some shit she blended in the Sierra album drop she did some of that dance like A lot of music came out.
It was a lot.
A lot of music came out.
Offset, which is an album that you had.
Yeah, I've been listening to Offset for a couple weeks now.
I really love it.
I really love it.
It's hard for me to review it now because there was so much new to my ears that came out today.
But he got vulnerable.
He got introspective, but he still gave you some hard offset shit.
So I really love it.
It's definitely my favorite offset project, having lived with it for a couple weeks.
Another artist just getting extremely vulnerable,
showing a different level of introspection than we are used to.
That move on record.
Another artist who,
again, I didn't read the credits, but the production on this album, I really enjoyed.
How he handled the samples.
Some big samples, too.
He was the first person I heard take the...
Damn,
damn, what did he take?
Who sings that group?
Let me love you down.
Ready for the world.
Ready for the world.
He took the Ready for the World flip and just used it differently than I've heard.
The production is great.
I see why him and Gunner get along.
Like the production on this reminds me a lot of recent Gunner production,
but maybe like with a bigger budget.
Yeah, okay.
Or maybe like clearing samples.
Gunner shit sound like we got all these fly melancholy samples with this drum pattern and maybe we took the sample out.
This one sounds like we left it in.
Okay.
That's what I get from the production of one year.
But really good album.
Again.
Shout out to Officer.
I fuck with, let me play some of this.
What did you say you want me to play?
The thing is Move On.
Is that the name of the record?
Yeah, that's good.
That's a great record.
Move On is really dope.
Oh, you want me to go to the outro?
Look at you, messy.
You're being messy.
You want me to go right to the altar?
No, no, no, we ain't got to go to the shit.
No, no, it's cool.
You're being messy.
It's cool.
Amani, just come to grips.
You're messy.
It's fine.
If I am, I get it from the best.
Here's the outro.
This is the one where he's getting to the tea.
We asked him where the tea was.
But here's the tea.
The outro: this is move on, offset.
He's telling us that Cardi wasn't cooking.
I'm trying to move on in peace.
I'm trying to move on.
I'm trying to move on in peace.
See, already I could deep dive this.
Actually, we ain't got shit better to do.
That's true.
We all have matured and we're not our former selves.
Why are you laughing already, Ish?
Because you're always putting a disclaimer on.
Go, man.
Because if we haven't matured, then I can't ask this.
But because we've matured, I'll give it a go.
Is it right that...
We caused all the strife in the relationship, made her go totally crazy, and when she couldn't cope with the crazy that we put on her, we say, I'm just trying to move on in peace.
That's not right.
Is that an unfair expectation that we as men have?
I would love to toss it to my expert right now, but is that an unfair expectation that we have as men?
And I'm guilty of doing that in my life.
I assume each of you are as well.
Yes, it is unfair.
Yes, it's unfair.
Ish.
See, come on, man.
No, I'm trying to.
You're going to let Dr.
Bryant have it.
He's saying it.
you ready.
He said,
Now I'm just trying to think from a personal perspective.
I don't think I ever really did that.
So I can't really speak to that.
But is it unfair, though?
Yeah, I would think
it's gaslighting on another level.
Oh, shit.
No, y'all made you crazy, and I'm going to just say, yo, I want to go over and be peaceful now.
No.
While you're sitting there in a straitjacket, that's some bullshit.
And that's stopping us from taking accountability.
That's like a mask.
As the man doing that.
It's just going to be a chemistry thing.
You know what I mean?
Where you're just not good for each other.
Yeah, but if I did you wrong and I'm saying I just want to move on, I am preventing myself from taking accountability for what I did to you.
I'm just trying to highlight all the negative things that you did and I'm negating what I did to you.
And it's not, I'm trying to move on, I'm trying to move on in
peace.
Yeah.
That means that you and the fact that you haven't gotten over everything that I've done to you is interrupting the peace
and tranquility in my home.
Yeah, but who the fuck is...
But I've argued that side of it, too.
I bet you have.
Y'all haven't?
No.
No, you have to.
Every time I part with y'all, I feel like I've been worse of a man than y'all.
I mean.
But you argue shit that niggas don't argue.
We're less different than we are alike, you know.
In relationships?
I'm not much of a gas lighter.
On the other side of that, fuck y'all.
On the other side of that is,
well, what is the statute?
How long can you be in here?
With these feelings like when does it get to you actually doing the work and healing?
If you decide to do that.
This shouldn't be something that just hovers over our household.
I was wrong.
I identify I'm wrong.
I apologize.
I've changed behavior, but
you seem to still be on that two, three, and four years later.
At some point, the other person is going to say,
I can't continue like this.
Have you shown changed behavior, though?
Same change.
I changed.
See?
Why do I have to show changed behavior if you move on to the next book?
We're not in the same relationship.
The relationship is over.
So now I want to move on to the next one.
He's talking about actually being in a situation.
No, no, that's not the situation we're always.
That's not what he's saying either.
He's
Y-Z.
Joe said, I argued the other side.
I did.
Right?
Yeah.
That's what you said.
Saying that, I'm going to ask you, how long are you going to hold me accountable for what I did to you three or four years ago?
Not hold me.
You've already held me.
I'm not.
That's how we're going to change behavior.
Yeah.
How long are you going to be upset that I hurt you three or four years ago?
Are you still single?
No, we're together.
We're in the household.
That thought can't continue to be home-based for you.
you yeah i agree when it comes to the your relationship and the functionality of it you can't automatically get to the worst of your partner because you your brain gets to the worst of your partner like i can't move on without you we have to move on as a couple because like you in why are you in the house though right like we have to move on
as a couple are you ill are you here if we're gonna be a couple yeah you got you gotta you gotta get over that are you are you here to make us miserable
are you here like why are you here like these are the questions.
If you really feel this way, how can you watch me every day with these feelings?
Is the love growing?
Is the love maturing?
Or are you just here to make this whole situation miserable?
That's where I go to it.
I could objectively see both sides.
Because what could happen is, dog, I could be in a great mood, and then you do something that brings me right back to that place.
You get what I'm saying?
So, and emotions, real emotions, it's some shit that you can't really hide.
But that's not fair, though.
I'm not saying why you're not supposed to go and they phone.
I'm not saying it's fair or not.
Because you can't put the toothpaste back
in the thing.
Once you go on the phone and see it,
your brain is
unable.
By design, we're built differently.
Your brain is not even going to be able to understand why a guy is saying certain things or isn't saying certain things.
You're just going to take it at face value.
You're saying this to a girl, and you shouldn't be.
So, this nigga is crazy.
Well, at that point, you have to hold your point, you have to hold yourself accountable if you're able and strong enough to move on.
You're alleged to what?
No, seriously, I've gone through a lot of stuff.
We can move on.
No, no, no, I don't want to move on.
Hold on, hold on, no, don't move.
I'm trying to understand what you just said.
Yo, you're not going to understand why a man says certain things to a woman or doesn't say.
I'm going to give you one.
There are times where you might have said something in the past to a young lady.
Yes.
You know his game.
She doesn't know his game.
It's like when niggas shoot at girls on the gram.
A lot of these girls really believe the shit that these niggas are saying.
I see.
The game is only you know that the game is the game.
It's the game.
That's why it's game.
Your partner or somebody's going to read this in your phone
and fall for game.
No ain't even meant for that.
You meant that.
Yeah.
You thirsty.
Yeah.
No, they just think that the shit you saying to this girl, you sincerely believe.
Got it.
And you know that you saying some bullshit.
But then she may ask, why you saying it in the first place?
I'm not going in nobody's phone.
I learned the lesson.
I'm quick.
I went in the phone.
And then how would I do it?
And how did it hurt nobody but me?
It killed you, right?
It hurt nobody.
I was done.
Out the game.
You stayed.
And you was going to stay.
Like a bitch.
And that'd be the other part.
Let me just say this.
The other part of the day.
And you're going to stay.
Nigga, mid-conversation yesterday, nigga, my wife muted the phone, and then I, nigga, that shit was on my mind.
I came home and said, why would you mute the phone if you said something to somebody?
What did you not want me to hear?
And what would their response have been to you?
I almost went crazy.
You put the battery, but I'm going to share it too.
I'm going to share it too.
Come on, let's turn it up.
I didn't like that.
I came home 12 this morning.
It's like, why did you, I woke up.
Why did you mute the phone?
Why did you have to mute the phone?
Whatever that the person said, if you say something that this person may say to you that I wouldn't get a fit, why did you mute it?
You can say whatever you want.
You're my wife, and I trust you, but why would you mute the phone?
If you trust me, then why are you in here questioning me?
No, but why not pop in the phone?
Man, there's many reasons why you might be the phone.
That being said, my wife has never muted me.
She said, Yo, TJ, she said, You can't mute no phone.
Yeah, she said, TJ, hold on.
She muted.
And she told me why she muted it.
Her friend was there.
She said, Yo, you know, that her friend was there.
I heard them, the lady that she worked with, and I heard them.
She was like, Yo, I was just saying something to him.
Like, yo, when are you coming back here for my friend?
And she showed me, but still, why did you have to mute that?
Like, what would he have said in response to you that might have offended me?
When are you coming back?
She asked him, Yo, when are you coming back?
Asking for her friend that liked him.
Yeah.
Oh, I wouldn't like that either.
Yeah, I just said, like, there are reasons where someone might mute you, like in your concert.
Yeah, it was a comment.
I'm going to check out the eye.
But you trust her, though.
I do trust.
I don't need for you, no explanation.
No, but hold on, because I know if I'm mute.
Hold on, wait, buddy.
Hold on.
You start to think.
I said, wait, if I mute the phone, like,
I'm going to tell you, if I mute the the phone, it's because if I say a comment to a woman, I know whatever she may say to me, my wife would not like.
And I understand the dynamics, but I want to respect her.
Yo, hold on, give me a second.
But nigga, you can't mute the phone on me.
You also got to be careful with these fights because if you start barking about muting, if you ever mute her, it's yo, she almost flipped it on me.
I woke up.
Hey, Joe, I put the battery back.
Yeah, that shit fucked me up.
I came home driving.
Why would you mute the phone?
So, the day I told y'all
he's still, he's still hot about it, too.
Go ahead.
No, no.
I'm already in, I'm bracing up already.
And I'll tell you what I mean in a second.
I'm already gearing up.
I see you looked around the series.
I'm putting on the protective coat because me and my girl have been together too long.
I know her bullshit.
She knows mine.
So we just kind of, when it's coming, you got to gear up.
So the other day, I told y'all I was out having some fun.
And she called me at
3.15 or whatever.
I said, I was home.
Yo, I'm home, babe.
And she called immediately.
Yeah.
and because i was feeling myself you didn't pick up i went crazy
i didn't pick up but when we spoke again
i went a little crazy
now not saying that i don't really feel that way but it was a better way to articulate it so i was on some shit like
yo Don't call me at 3 a.m.
Ever.
I don't care to tell you when when I'm home.
I don't give a fuck if you tell me when you're home.
Like, I is nobody in this world that I want to speak to at 3.15 a.m.
while I'm headed home.
The phone should be signing.
That's me time.
That's my time.
Don't call me.
I hate all these fucking rules.
You was a bullshit, boy.
You was really funny.
And she let me get it off.
Oh, you read the article too.
She let me.
Yeah, yeah.
She let me get it off.
That's hilarious.
That's why I love it.
She let me get it off.
And the next day, checked it.
No.
She said,
heard everything you said last night.
I'm on that.
Don't text me when you get home.
I like that.
We got new rules in place.
Do whatever you want.
You wasn't expecting it.
She good.
She good.
That trend.
So she said that, but I'm still feeling myself.
So I forgot, shut up, nigga.
Shut up, nigga.
So the other night, I go out.
And you ain't get no call.
And when I got home, I said, hey, baby,
daddy's home.
Nigga, she woke up and said, don't text me.
Don't text me at three in the morning.
Don't worry about it.
No, no, you ain't got to tell me when you're ever again.
Ever again.
So,
I'm bracing up.
Because I know.
I know me.
You know what's about to happen.
And I know me, too.
You know?
And I know me.
Go ahead.
Turn it up.
What you going to say?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I know you turn it up.
Turn it up.
Turn it up.
Yeah, Alan Mohando.
Sometimes you just be in a relationship like, oh, go ahead, turn it up.
Yeah, Alamo Honda.
Almondas.
Oh, that's nasty.
You got all types of carnival coming up, all types of wild shit coming up.
I'm going to be out there.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So she's just saving her Joker.
Smart.
It is a smart.
And because I talk my shit,
I got to wear it.
You got to pay for that.
I got to wear it.
So that's that.
But even if we wear it, nigga, unless I come in there.
Yeah.
They're going to fix up.
Come on.
You're going to pop up.
No.
No.
No.
No.
The other colour.
You can't drink a gold.
Yo, how come women haven't had like a board meeting to figure out their way around that?
Like that move shouldn't still work.
Still, yeah,
that move work.
Women have adopted it too now, but it does start with a board.
Anyways,
uh oh, back to the back to offset.
I'm on the argument.
Back to the off of the tangent.
I'm trying to move on.
I'm trying to move on in peace.
We ain't even get to a bird.
Cause I heard this shit was like,
why are you trying to move on in peace?
You shouldn't be allowed to.
Yo, dog, hey, offset.
They're never happy for you.
You don't put them through all of that.
Y'all split.
You go get happy, and then they be happy for you.
I don't know what, where.
Tell me.
If they are legitimately happier without you with someone new, that's when you don't want them to be happy for you.
That's true.
Exactly.
The only time they're happy for you is when you don't want them to be happy for you.
I think she's done being happy with him.
She's done being happy for him.
Like,
there's no...
I'm done with you.
I'm done with that now.
Get to a place where you're happy for me.
Oh, please stop it.
Stop it.
Why?
Why do you even have to get to that place?
You don't fuck mad chicks unprotected.
Not him.
I'm just I'm just freestyling that you don't fuck mad strippers unprotected
And then she went to your phone and seen you fucking talking lovey dovey
with pet names and you think that after the breakup you go and be with that same girl that she asked you about and you told her not to worry about and she gonna say yo i'm happy for you y'all asked for a lot of strength from these let me ask you a question
It's not a gender thing.
If one of your exes that you was with that put you through some shit and you put them through some shit had a legitimate relationship right now and they were happy, you wouldn't be happy for them.
Well, you just changed my scenario.
You said one of my exes that you did something to them, they did something to you.
In the scenario I'm talking about, only one person did the doing, and that has led us to
I have to leave.
That person that took all the hits is not supposed to turn around and be happy for you when you hit the love lottery before they do.
You added the before.
Because
if they meet a nigga, because you forced me out the door and I ran into somebody that is 10 times.
And I'm not going to be happy for you.
They're going to rub it in your face for the next five years or the duration of the relationship that they found somebody with better muscles, that dressed better, with a bigger dick, with more jewelry, and a better car.
And we take more vacations and we go out to dinner and all the shit that you didn't do, you bum ass nigga that I was asking you for.
Oh, that's going to be every day on the story.
But I'm.
Just for you.
Thank Thank you.
I'm happy.
Oh, stop.
All right.
I'm done with y'all.
I'm back to off that.
Back to off that.
Back to offset.
You ain't happy for me.
I take the blame, okay?
Okay.
I take the shame, okay.
Okay.
Not playing your games today.
Okay.
We look like some fools.
Look like some fools.
You got your get back, so I had to get back.
Love turn to hate, okay.
You lie the pain in your face.
Okay, that's the part that hurt when the love turned to hate.
That hurts.
When the love turned to hate.
no, no, no, no, no.
Ain't nobody said it while you're talking about it.
You got some bullshit.
We look like some fools, look like some fools.
You got your giveback, so I had that give back.
It's 50 to 2s.
50 to 2.
Well,
hold on, though.
If it's 50 trash compared to two fire, like does it even out?
Hold on, think about it though.
We niggas.
Yo, y'all are very toxic for reacting to that line that way.
Look at that.
A lot of fire happens.
That's a funny line.
He admitted it was 50 to 2 is fire.
Yeah.
That's hard.
You acknowledge it.
You got me twice.
I got you 50 times.
Come on.
I respect it.
Let me move on again.
I seen that nigga last week get out some shit.
It wasn't no.
Yeah.
It wasn't no trash.
Nah.
Yeah, he, he, yeah, that nigga, that nigga, yeah.
I fuck with that nigga, son.
About eight of them.
No trash amongst.
Nah, Oscar wasn't nowhere to be found.
Oscar, nothing.
You know what's funny about women, too?
Nowhere to be found.
You know what?
Nigga, not, we can't.
Nigga, I throw time.
We can't really talk.
Because I'm listening to y'all.
And I'm just thinking, I know projects.
I know, I know.
Projects.
We got it.
We got
even Corey came out and said,
If I did you wrong
off a 10-year divorce or marriage, and now you leave me because I ain't shit.
And then you go get with a nigga that ain't shit.
Another, because that always happens.
And then you go get with a new nigga that ain't shit, just in a different field,
and then get pregnant.
And then
I'm still running around.
Is it confirmed?
no but niggas have eyes yeah yeah last time i said hey you said that the label what if she's and boy did the internet kill me
and i was like all right how you be knowing now we got two albums that they got to do through but that's not the point right now the point is 50 to 2 is nuts
50 to 2 is nuts
and let me help you off say you don't know that that's the score
Let me help you out there.
That's your ego.
If you have no idea what that score is, I think that you might still be up,
even by a lot.
But the girl doing it is the electoral vote.
College?
Not the popular vote.
Yeah,
the girl
count for like 17.
Yeah.
She's a fucking idiot.
For sure.
You got to be careful, Lord.
California got way more votes than Rhode Island, my nigga.
Yeah, sure no.
Sure enough.
But overall, I think this Offset album is really, really good.
It's really good.
It's fine.
It's really good.
It's smooth.
There's a little something for everybody on there.
Offset's pretty versatile, man.
He is.
It wasn't as much lit turn up as I thought would be on here.
Like, it really, he stuck to a concept.
The sound match.
He made an album.
He made an album.
He made an album.
He made an album.
Yeah, no.
Shout out to Offset.
Really good project.
Who else we got?
Excuse me.
My listening order was a little different from you.
You come mass at Ghostface.
I know you got it.
I went Ghostface first.
I'm not going to give an in-depth review.
To me, it felt...
I wouldn't have called it Supreme Clientele 2.
It felt like Apollo Kids or one of his other albums.
It's more like Breakbeat Up Tempo, which I love.
Got it.
The Method Man record is crazy.
The Nas record is crazy.
Give me a little piece.
Give me a little piece of something.
Give me a little bit.
Let me get a little bit of Ghostface.
I didn't get to what I am.
That's part of my weekend.
Ghostface,
Earl Swest shirt,
I think Westside.
No, no, girl, there was no, there was kind of where it was supposed to go, but it didn't go.
It was with Nas.
Okay,
here we go.
Yeah, yo, uh, we used to run up in jury stores, lay up in malls, kick shopping, looking for the fruit flavor for laws.
Switch rolls, surround sound gun that was made by bowls.
Got knock a cop, made an angel on the blow.
With cases pending, we cold defendants.
Lawyer dealt with a big bag.
He had to judge light and I sentence.
I'm feeling like Gotti and 9-3.
Low-key OT, cashing in on them birds.
Getting that poultry.
Niggas prepped before me slow, blastin' that Jodisie.
My main man turned his head like he ain't noticed me.
So I started staring at niggas and stepped back.
My man had that nervous face.
That's real rap.
They hopped out with crazy gold.
Bigfoot furs.
All right, smelling like strong cushions.
They whispered words.
They told me the story and how this nigga ran in AK.
the enemy's face.
Fuck you, nigga.
All right.
This is tough.
It's a lot of it's it's it this kind of this feel this whole whole record samples break beats like I said some up tempo shit.
This is uh you my friend with uh method man.
I love this record.
I probably would have played it a sleeper, but fuck it.
We're here
Sounds good.
I can already hear what you're saying about you shouldn't have named it.
Yeah, it don't feel supreme client intelligence to me, but that's cool.
I get it
You know this goes out
my friend, would you give me a kidney?
Hold on now, I know you go to war with me.
If I die, will you still stop by the crib?
To check on my kids without fucking my wiz?
You my friend, right?
Stop playing, ghost.
You my friend, right?
You stop playing.
Would you slide them a few ones if they get hungry?
Even if it's your last little bit of money, would you think about me?
Still pray for me on my birthday, bake a little cake for me.
Look at our pictures, go to my grave site.
Like once a year, I'll be alright.
You my friend, right?
We don't pretend right.
Let's keep it real around the board.
We old men, right?
Would you feed me if I was in the wheelchair?
Visit me every day, cause you still care.
You say you love me, brother.
I love you.
I push you out the way, didn't take a slug for you.
That's if I love you.
That's your real brothers dude.
Look at me, nigga.
Nigga, I fucks with you.
Yeah, I love niggas.
That's ghost and meth.
I gotta get through the whole album.
It's a fairly long album.
My next stop was Two Chains, Red Clay.
Yeah.
Shot Two Chains.
We played a couple records off there, so I'll hesitate.
But uh, Deadbeat Moms is incredible.
I'll probably play it as Sleeping Next Week sometime.
The interesting third record that I got to was Big X the Plug, Big X Deplug, who I am a huge fan of.
Same.
He dropped the album, I Hope You're Happy.
Fire album title.
When I looked at the track list, however, I was confused.
Wow.
First record featuring Darius Rucker from Hootie and the Blowfish.
Second record featuring Jelly Roll.
Don't put me in a box.
Bailey Zimmerman, another country star.
Ella Langley, Luke Combs, Shabuzi.
It's all country records.
Oh, shit.
And at first, I thought, that's an odd choice to make that jump on your second record.
Then I started listening to it.
And
Big X and Plug got some money.
These records are not cheap records.
These are country records.
This is box me up with Jelly Roll.
Take my love and hang it out.
Try.
I love Joey Roll.
That nigga's voice is crazy.
And this is...
a fucking hell of a play.
If I lose, you then I lose.
I went by all the rules to keep your love, so I'm confused.
Okay.
But yet you left me high and dry you lose.
This shit is tough, yo.
This shit is tough.
I was hesitant because I'm like, I don't know about the country thing.
This is going to be a major play for him, yo.
He's going to be on the country circuits off this shit.
Like Luke Holmes, these are stars.
No, that was a country star, John.
Yeah.
Whether or not it's your cup of tea, this is an expensive big record.
That's music, bro.
Yeah.
This shit is going to work for him.
Well, for starters, why would anyone think that Big x the plug
he was very successful for sure for sure i came in and asked y'all which sync license would you rather have right big x or that kendrick song that was out of here yeah what he's doing on and i want to say independent i think so uh yeah this is united masters yeah this is this is steve stout yeah big x the plug i would assume is a large part of why steve stout got executive executive of the year from variety
i didn't know you got that congratulations So, yeah, so you're taking an independent act.
You're taking Steve Stout's brilliance since 91 with these advertisers.
I'm going to put this song everywhere where you can hear it.
Target, Walmart.
About to make an album.
Whatchamacallit?
There ain't nobody in Target no more.
Hey,
we'll get to that.
We did that.
We'll get back to that.
Buffalo Wild Wings.
That is all down south.
When I listened to Big X the Plug, he recently did an interview and he was saying how his song, The Largest,
he didn't write a word on there.
He said he's not a fan of the repetitive hooks.
He just wanted to do some rap shit.
And one of the artists signed to him wrote most of that record
for him to spit.
You just wouldn't ever think that because of how he spit it.
His delivery.
That sounds like that sounds like this is his.
And if you're able to do that, then I'm not mad at you writing camp and you getting a hit.
A hit is a hit.
And it was a hit.
Salute to Hill.
He said it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Because a lot of people wouldn't want that information out there.
It's fine.
And you know what?
I'm not mad at the country sellout.
I don't think it's really a sellout, though.
Because A, it's good music.
And B, I think it's going to work.
But not just that.
Is it really selling out if you like this shit and you talking your talk?
It's like he's still doing him on it.
Yeah, he's still in.
He's still in.
It just has all the biggest fucking country stars on it.
I'm speaking for me, not y'all.
Yeah, I can dig.
I'm speaking for me, not y'all.
There is a country sellout thing going on and when i and this is for lack of a better term i'm not calling him a sellout okay there are people with media companies behind them that are into advanced analytics and the country hip-hop fusion off the success of shibuzi and some others
and some all of them
The record business is a reactionary business.
So, yeah, somebody's going to see that and say, I mean, when you see all of those features, it says, okay, we're going to hit, we're going to switch the target audience with this one.
And I'm not just saying hip-hop to country.
The relationship between hip-hop and country is
still developing.
One of my homegirls let me hear,
when we was waiting for keynote the other day, Ash, Ash was like, yo, come get in my car for a minute.
Listen to this song.
And she played one of the Morgan Wally, Whaley, Wally songs.
She didn't know about his N-word debacle.
She said, just listen to this song and tell me what you think.
And the first thing I heard was country crooning with no drums, and then some 808s come on.
And then it's a, and I'm like, I can't lie.
It hits.
It's a bunch of them doing that.
It's hard.
Yeah.
It's a bunch of them.
It's been doing that for a while.
So I like that that option is available.
Like for us back in the day, only Nori was going to go do reggaetone.
For us, the pop record is 50-21 quad.
If you want to get that, you got to hit the country been doing that for a minute, though.
Did Did you see it?
I meant to come in here and talk about it.
It's a show, and it's a writing camp show.
Yes.
Okay.
It's on Nephita.
You saw it?
Yes.
That shit is dope.
Seven streeters on there.
It's seven.
It's
who's amazing.
Amazing.
It's seven, and it's a whole writing camp.
They go from they're in Mexico and it's fly shit in Cabo.
Then they go to Vegas.
Then they go to Nashville.
And yo, the show was dope as hell, but it's a writing room with six or seven writers from all different genres and all different backgrounds, right?
It's seven, it's this other R ⁇ B dude, it's a couple,
it's this gay dude, he's fire, and he be writing some fly shows.
I don't know their names, you know what I'm saying?
But what I'm saying is they took a whole bunch, it's a couple country dudes and they threw them in a writing camp.
Right.
And they were writing a song for Shabuzi.
Okay.
They were writing a song for Usher.
And they were writing a song for...
for John Legend.
And yo, dog.
And I think that's how some of these marriages are coming about.
That's possible.
If they're taking these writing camps and producers and throwing them all in one big gumbo, and that's the product.
I thought I was going to hate it, man.
And listen, I know Nashville kind of turned me out to the country a couple years ago.
This shit is not bad, yeah.
People pay attention.
Country music for quite some time has been leaning onto the urban writers being the people to develop their sound.
And you just throw something.
And vice versa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, not for nothing.
There's a long lineage.
Like I said,
I brought it up recently again when I went there and went to the museum.
A lot of the tropes in country music are not dissimilar from the tropes in hip-hop music.
Big cars, guns, women.
It's all.
Y'all mean it's going to be.
Yeah.
Men, dog, are going to write about masculine shit.
Whether, how you write it, whether you grew up in Nashville or you grew up in the Bronx or.
Amani, writing,
you've never released a project where there was writing camps.
No.
Right?
No.
Writing camps.
I know you've maybe done some songs.
What's that for?
You Should Be Sober?
Who wrote that?
My boy William Moore out in
Charlotte.
Do you feel like as an artist, do you ever think of what your project would sound like if you weren't tasked with all the writing and you could work with a writing camp?
Phenomenal.
I'm saying that you ever have that thought?
I've always had that thought.
It was either not having the access to that or also being reluctant to it because
at the time,
the whole premise of being this big artist was the time of Neo and the time of all these people who were known for writing.
So I was trying to market myself in the same fashion.
Like, I can do the whole, you know, the same thing.
But if I would have do songs.
Do songs.
Like, it's stupid.
But no, listen, if I'd have had the opportunity.
Do sound.
Uno.
Uno sound.
Yo, y'all talking shit.
But salutes to Trey.
He just celebrated 20 years when he dropped.
Yes, sir.
Clap it up for that palm drop.
Clap it up for that.
Out in Queens.
Trey, we know that that's not you singing I Can't Help But Wait on the radar.
On the radar.
Trey songs.
We love the song.
We want you to celebrate that classic.
At least these niggas won't even pretend to be singing it no more.
But do we got to, though?
You should in that type of thing.
On that setting, yes.
When you do the just a mic in a room thing,
it should have some level of rawness to it.
We want to hear how that sounds 20 years later with mature your voice now on this platform.
This platform is you doing it, not
doing that, but whatever.
Um, where were we?
Where were we?
Uh, we will go write.
Yeah, salute to BigX the plug, man.
I really, I had no expectations.
I just threw it on a whim in the last stretch driving here.
Like, let me see what it is.
And that shit is not bad.
You niggas, though, man.
That's the problem when all of the co-hosts are not here.
Because if I talk long enough, I will say something that I shouldn't have said.
All right, well, give us a taste of what you think might happen.
It's not what might happen.
It's just my view looking at some of this shit today.
Like,
I would have liked to work with writing camps, too.
Right?
And I think that shit J.
Cole and Dreamville did.
I think that was all the way fired.
So I'll exclude them from this.
But
also, some of y'all that had access to those songs with the Neo hook or that was floating around Def Jam that I didn't have access to
that helped to catapult your careers.
I don't know how much of it you really owned.
Because today you niggas are strapped for cash.
I was looking at that.
I was thinking about that the other day.
And it's a tough conversation to have.
I would love that.
But once you get into some of our greats, listen, look at the CWOR.
Some of our greats are not matching what their record earned.
I don't know what the split looks like.
I was about to bring that up.
But I know when you win that game,
like, and it's the hit game.
I was listening to, I was thinking about this when we were, I think we were riding upstate a couple weeks ago, whatever it was, and Airplanes by B.O.B.
came on.
And I was like, damn, that must have been such a blessing and a curse at the same time because it's a smash record, but the smash record is given to you on a silver platter, and you just got to fill in the blanks.
So, how
it's like super training wheels.
You know what I mean?
And that fucked up a few careers, that one.
Yeah,
Lupe, B.O.B., that whole beef.
Wait, what you were saying?
Shout out to B.O.B.
I blame it.
I blame it on the artist because in those situations, like, let's just say I'm given the opportunity to get the record hand-delivered to me, right?
From whatever artist.
My next thought after that is, I want to link actually with this person.
I want to link with this creative so I can get into to try to see if whatever creative process they have, I can pull from and also draw into myself.
Some people just get into the business and just get lazy just being handed a record and don't really try to actually get better at their own craft.
Off of the right and can't.
Some people have access to records that other people don't.
That's possible.
That's part of the privilege.
Anytime they put me in with a big-time producer, it came with all the pressure in the world.
It came with, hey, you either deliver in this moment or your career is over.
Not true.
Or your tenure at this label is over.
Anytime there was Just Blaze, Timberland, any of them, any of them that cost 75K, 100K, 150K and up, if you go in that session and y'all don't come out with nothing,
nigga, you done.
Yeah, not them.
That's the lazy part.
That's the lazy part.
There's a lot of artists that don't need that.
There's a lot of people who aren't that that big who can still deliver you a great product.
When you get lazy and just wait on those people to give you product, that's your fault.
No, see, that's the myth.
That's the smoke.
That's not a myth.
What's your call?
That's a little hold up.
That's the smoke of mirrors.
That's smoke and mirrors.
It is.
Joe, you know, a lot of people who built careers off of getting records from people who weren't known at the time.
Producers, writers.
For sure.
That got their start with new fresh artists.
But that could also be equally as flash in the pan.
We've seen a million times where that's a flash in the pan, the no-name beat, and you just happen to catch one.
The percentages raise when you go get with the music people.
Yeah.
I'm not talking about the nigga in your hood that made Wankster and now it takes.
That's cool.
That flash in the pants are that happens.
Yeah.
The percentages raise once you get the writer that knows a hit, knows how the charts work, knows how radio work.
That was the biggest robbery that was with me in my career earlier.
There's nobody around that even understands the business of making a record
or working a record.
So we in there just winging it versus the writer that knows, the producer that knows, an ANR that knows, you ain't see the shit.
Working your, they know what the hit is before it gets to you.
They know who gonna pin the hit before it gets to you.
So you either want to be that person or you and your hood in the basement with no money and no resources coming up with a hit.
Yeah, it could happen.
It could happen.
Ray Daniels got a clip that's floating around.
And he talked about
pop splits versus hip-hop splits.
And he addresses some of that shit.
And he was like, yo, in the pop splits, it's just, yo, whoever in here working,
we're going to bust it down the middle versus niggas be producers like, yo, I ain't giving my public.
You know what I'm saying?
And then he was like, yo, and so now you get these shitty writers with your production and it don't make a marriage and it's not out of here.
You know what I'm saying?
So some of those writing rooms, it was one episode on that show where the dude took something from one of their previous sessions and pawned it off and they was like no fam i said that in our last session you got to give me my my my my for that right um
it's a tough business for y'all i like i get it and listen i don't want to sound like any of this is complaining uh nor do i want to be so music centric here but too late yeah
that's good though i like these dogs me too
i love it this is how my brain here's it's you know how many times i hear talented artists sing a song that I could tell there was no writer around for?
Yeah.
Like I could tell this person just is writing their own shit.
Some of these words don't even belong in this song.
You got a beautiful melody, a beautiful pocket going, and just saying anything.
Yeah.
Like you can hear, you can start to hear those things if you do this long ago.
Yo, you know, I'm not a music dude.
That show,
me and my girl was stuck.
We watched the whole shit all the way through.
It's great.
We watched all the shit.
Like actually, prime example, and we will get to our ad in two seconds.
Mariah the Scientist album dropped.
I was heard.
Oh, Oh, I didn't know that.
I like Mariah the Scientist.
And I like Mariah the Scientist songs.
However they come up with those songs, for me, eight out of ten times, it's a good song.
Mariah the Scientist is not a singer.
So how they getting these songs is great.
And she's delivering on the songs, right?
Here's one of them.
But because how my ear is trained, I'm forced to imagine how it would sound if a singer got this song.
And I hope that's not received as a diss.
Because I'm a big fan of Mariah the Scientist music.
I am.
Tell me all our hatred doesn't coexist.
Show me how a private dwelling center.
I was naive, not ignorant.
Someone fucking.
Those songs be hard, yo.
Huh?
Let me leave me, let me down.
It's a combination, too, because it's also producers.
And I'm not sure who produced this record, but
your phone's playing music.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, sorry.
Like also just having a producer in the room to maybe help her execute vocally better.
This sounds fire, though.
But I understand what he's saying, though.
Our ears are trained now differently.
It's missing a little sauce and a little,
yeah.
Well, I mean, it's also so I've had a couple observations from this conversation.
I got a hook recently for a project I'm working on, and the guy said, be nonced, I think, in the chorus.
Back to just like someone not being in the room to be like, that's not like a chorus word.
You feel me?
But it's so easy to make things sound good if you have a decent voice and with the technology out there that it can easily, it can be easy to be lazy to not not like produce a song or work on coaching the vocal
work on getting the right vocalist on the record work on the song and that's kind of what we can i give you example it sounds good but is it as good as it could be can i give you example uh jimmy jam was just having a conversation with someone about the usher you remind me record and they said they first got the record and
uh jimmy jam was like no it's lar was telling him listen this record could either be his next single or it's not making an album because he's having a problem executing the record the way he needs to execute it he keeps singing it like the demo
it's not coming across like the record that i know it can be he had to get back into the studio with terry lewis and they say terry lewis is like a phenomenal vocal producer and he was able to strip
strip away the demo itis that he had and make the song his.
And that's the thing that you speak to.
Real producers.
Real producers, real vocal producers at that, who really know how to get the most.
Because I've had moments where I've gotten a record and I've sung it like the demo, and it never sounded the same.
It just doesn't connect.
Newer, older music, real quick, and then I promise you a Prize Picks ad is coming.
Coco Jones.
We didn't spend enough time on her either.
How do you know she's dropping yet?
She just.
And it's mad songs on the album.
And it sounds good.
It's a good album.
Record is called Passport.
This is toward the end.
It's like a deluxe.
It's a new album or a deluxe.
It's a deluxe.
It's the deluxe of a new album.
Like we didn't talk about the album.
Gotcha.
When driving it, I'm sitting on me, though.
I'm fashioned.
I love adventures.
Another one.
I think my sleeper's coming from her.
Hey.
Also, Big Jersey.
I want to shout out Lady London getting a look on this Coco Jones project.
Shout out to Lady London.
Shout to Coco Jones.
Shout out to the ladies making music the fuck too.
Yeah.
The brandy
You get deep with me, please.
So you please with me, touch.
I'm a save her day with the armor, no lust, no fear.
We up from here, I tell you what I I'm pointing.
First, I gotta know, yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you want?
Hey, you get the point.
That's tough.
He flipped that brandy.
You get the point.
You get the point.
Shout out to Coco Jones.
For sure.
Shout out to everybody that is putting out quality music right this second.
Everybody that dropped on a crowded release day.
Shout out to those of y'all that make me stay up on a Thursday to get some of this music and sit up in bed.
Yeah, and listen to this stuff, man.
Yeah.
It's been a great year, music.
Yeah, it started off slow, but they've been turning, everyone's been turning up.
Albums have been on point this year, for sure.
And it sounds like everyone's trying to make better music than maybe we've gotten recently.
On all fronts, RB and hip-hop, yeah, yeah, for sure.
It sounded like good quality.
These have been some of my best album titles, too.
Yeah, yeah, really good album titles this year, or in the last three months specifically.
Yeah, for sure.
I want to double back to what you said earlier, later on, maybe Patreon, when you said about Malice being the best rapper of the year
for me so far i'm not mad at that for me so far
and i've been thinking like what he did visually on certain parts of the project that dumb diddy dumb diddy dumb line for me is still the hardest line i've heard this year yeah in the middle of a story yeah that's the hardest line i've heard this year because of the
the the description
And he got a few others after that.
If you could picture it, if you could picture it and understand the point of the line hands three to nine as i'm crossing the state line if you ever been on the road illegal suspended license or anything with the cops on the road like listen yeah dumb diddy dumb diddy dumb
i'm just singing just let me go on about my business yeah we can talk about it later on patreon and his flags is super easy to remember carry on yeah it's sick i could just see him at the show doing that on
the show
yeah come on crowd one crazy.
Come on, now, go fucking malice.
Stop playing with him.
Um,
uh, what was I saying just now?
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All right, now big story the other day was Lil Nas X being recorded on Los Angeles streets at about 3-4 in the morning in some white boots and white
box, not even boxes, briefs.
Tidies.
Tidy white.
White boots.
Your little cousin.
Hey, yo, what?
What's your little cousin?
Walking down the street.
We are not related.
We are not related, even though that is my move.
Little dream.
Little dream.
Little little.
He stole my move.
He just went outside and put drawers on.
And boots.
Yeah, I was.
The drawers make a difference.
I was keeping it in the building, dingling.
Yo,
dingling, dangling.
So, this is my move.
I want to be careful with the jokes because they're saying that he was in the middle of some drug shit.
He was ODN.
They say he caught a charge for
assaulting an officer and some other charge that he caught.
What do we think about this?
How do we feel about this?
No, it's a serious thing.
So we just reached by to get a couple jokes off.
If he
was under the influence of some substances, I hope he get help.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on.
When I read the article about it, they said he'd been posting some erratic things on his Instagram.
One was him wearing lipsticks saying, oh no, she's gone mad, crazy, I tell you.
And the rest of them seem to.
It looks like
fabricated squalor, kind of.
Staged.
Huh?
Staged.
To me, it looks like it could be that.
Like, maybe he's trying to lean into some sort of alter ego, but I'm not sure.
I don't want to be insensitive if he is, in fact, catching through.
That's why the music business is scary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's a real serious issue that some people will also take as a part of some type of rollout or marketing plan.
And he's been known to do some fairly
outlandish things.
I would hope catching a charge, a battery against a cop wouldn't be in his plan.
So
I like that part.
Some people plan for that stuff, too.
My song and them niggas.
Yo, chill out, man.
Shut up.
Yeah,
oh, yeah, we playing on when they go to the rally.
Yeah, he went up there, going to jail.
Shit, Razz did that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You go on there.
You go to the rally.
Hey, I won't let you take this away from us.
Make you, nigga.
You go to jail.
Turn around.
You know the plan.
It's a misdemeanor.
assault charge, assault on a police officer charge.
I think he just like ran at them.
I think Hollywood is Hollywood in him.
And if you
try to figure it out, yo, it's over, man.
If you're familiar with the cops, that's a charge that they're going to put on you.
Resisting arrests.
If they like how you was giving it up,
you assaulted me.
You was resisting arrest.
I was like, I was not.
You was trying to put the handcuffs on mad tight.
I said, ouch and moved.
No, nigga.
You think I elbowed you?
I spreaded my legs, paused.
You're going to kick my shits anyway.
It don't matter how.
You could be like this.
They're going to still kick your fucking leg.
I don't spread my my legs, you spread your legs.
You gotta spread your legs when they cut it.
I let them do it.
Yeah, he's a freak.
As a man, I ain't just bothering.
You let other men spread your legs, bro.
You can't let no nigga spread your legs.
Come on, no, nigga, you letting them spread your legs.
You gotta spread it for them.
I spread my legs for them.
Even if you're in tighty white's, yeah, nigga,
it's assistant.
Lil Nah's like, can't have a problem spreading his legs.
He good.
He looked, listen,
he did look good.
He's in good shape, right?
He looked good.
He's been in the gym.
He was holding.
Joe.
You're doing a lot.
Nah, nah, nah.
You trying to take the conversations off.
I'm talking about.
You're strutting that shit.
I don't know how old he is, but 24-year-old genes and body that works out.
He don't look like he's on nothing.
If he's on some type of horrible drug bench, overdose.
Say Joe.
He like him.
Whoa.
Oh, shit.
What the fuck?
That nigga talk about how good he is.
Nobody understand what he's doing.
He's on, nigga.
You freaky.
I don't.
Tell me.
He's saying that nigga look healthy, nigga.
Okay.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Good as far as sexual use.
The picture they're trying to paint,
or the picture that's painted, if you get up and walk down the street at four in the morning, butt ass naked.
Yeah, how you look is a big part of it.
He's not the healthiest.
He don't look unhealthy.
I know what you're saying.
Is what I'm saying.
The nigga's skin was.
His skin was glowing.
Nigga, when you was 20.
24, my skin glow, nigga.
My stomach ain't glow at 24, nigga.
You wasn't that big at 24.
I wasn't your team over combat.
Shut the fuck up.
Your body ain't look like Lil Nas X when you were 24, nigga.
Shut up.
Shut up.
I don't know what his body looks.
He was mad skinny at 24.
This shit so damn good.
You just got shot at Nas Z.
You got shot at 24, right?
It's you never had pictorials.
Pictorials.
You never had, but nobody had pictorials.
Lil Nas X has pictorials.
You talking about this shit right here?
No, that's the V.
I'm talking about
story.
He's fucking sprinkled.
You never had pectorials.
Show me what pectorial is.
He don't know what it is.
These.
Nigga.
I'll slap you, bro.
What you doing, yo?
Nigga, you didn't have any gym for two weeks.
What the fuck is pectorials?
It's pectorals.
You don't have them either.
I know.
You got Spanish titties.
Yes, you got Spanish dude titties.
Y'all know what we are.
He got the D.
Yeah, he roasted bolio chests.
Chicho, what I'm asking.
Now, I get what you're saying, though.
And if you was listening to him, he was telling the person tabling him, listen, go ahead, girl.
Like, give me that phone.
I want to throw that phone.
He wasn't saying nothing aggressive.
He wasn't.
He wasn't saying
that seemed like got it, but he wasn't a threat to this person who was riding in a car following and filming.
And even that's weird.
And it's weird that it's nobody in the street at four in the morning.
It's not one person.
I wanted to know what block he was walking.
Yeah, me too.
You said Ventura, I think.
Nigga, somebody should have have been outside on me.
That was Ventura and like Topanga because the colours weren't going to be.
There wasn't a soul outside.
And forget person.
There wasn't another car outside.
Yeah, it's odd.
That's odd.
What's the crime?
It was assaulting.
Well, no, no, no.
I'm saying before.
That's a lewdness charge.
I was about to say, it can't be.
It's not.
But
he has.
That is a lewdness charge.
If you're an underwear.
If you're an underwear walking up the street, that's a lewdness charge.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
I've been doing it a long time.
Listen, at bare minimum, disorderly conduct.
I was about about to say, because the girls in Wawa...
The girls in Wawa be having on less clothes than that.
Wawa has to stop being your point of reference.
That's the only place I go outside.
I saved the picture that you took with some fan.
You don't check the pictures after you take it.
Let me see.
When you took a picture with a fan in Wawa?
All the time.
God damn it, ish.
You don't check the picture, though, after you take it.
Don't tell me he has some crumbs on his.
He has crumbs.
He's a mess in Wawa.
On his beard.
He looked like a nigga that's there for the crispy creams.
He waited till the fresh ones come out.
Yo,
hot, the hot joints.
Yo, you wait.
That changed your life.
Them shits have changed your life.
You wait at the door, nigga, for the fresh joints?
Oh, yeah.
My nigga.
Look at your man.
Check your face.
My nigga, like,
right by the coffee.
Look at your man.
Coffee.
I had to save the picture.
Look at him.
You look.
It's looking nuts.
Yo, check the picture.
Start checking the pictures.
What's wrong with it?
You.
Oh, man.
You look crazy, flabby, and sick.
Yes.
Now, listen,
Ish is new at being this famous.
Fan pictures will jack you up.
Yeah.
If a fan is not getting your most desirable angles and holding the camera right, you about to look like shit on that cam picture.
You told me, yo, look who I bumped into.
No,
Ish and Wawa being being Barack.
Like you a superstar in Barack.
They gotta hang out in Wawa.
They gotta hang your picture up.
Yeah, I'm gonna try.
Kings.
Someone has a store just for me.
Food and porium.
Food and porium.
Some food.
You niggas have a lot of money.
Quality.
How do you know that?
I don't know that slide.
Me neither.
Me neither.
Yeah, right.
I'm porium slap.
Well, he's from New York.
He's from Buffalo, Elmar.
You should.
You've been up here too long.
I know.
I don't know food and porium.
Yeah, I don't know.
What?
I remember that.
Nigga.
I know.
Shafe Light.
I know Safe Light.
Safe Light.
Shop Right.
You don't know I know Shop Rite shit.
Do you know who Crazy Eddie is?
No.
Do you know who Crazy Eddie is?
No.
Is that the furniture?
No, that's not the furniture.
The food emporium is after Crazy Eddie.
I know.
I'm just now I'm just doing a heat check.
Wait, this jersey shit?
Someone has a store just for me.
Food emporium, food emporium.
Someone has my brand of quality.
Food emporium.
Food emporium.
Someone has the message.
That's it as true.
This ain't it.
That ain't slap.
That ain't stopping the group.
I don't remember that.
We had tops.
You know the bill.
Saving you more.
That's what we have.
Tops.
Oh, my God.
Listen, we hope that Lil Nas ex gets the help that he needs.
And or attention, whichever one.
There's some sectors of the internet that are like, all right, you was playing around early in your career with some devil worship and shit, and words have meaning, so now look at you in the street like Knight of the Living zombie.
I don't like that, though.
Shit, that hard.
Well, I subscribe to words have meaning.
Me too.
Yeah, okay.
I don't like good for you because you were using devil.
I don't know if good for you is the message.
Okay.
I think the message is words have meaning.
I don't think those people saying that are happy that Lil Nas X is in this predicament.
They're just saying,
be careful with
what you're saying.
The tongue is mightier than the sword.
Sure.
Because words have
meaning.
Okay.
I believe that words have meaning.
I'm not getting into nothing else.
For sure.
But I believe that that's not.
Blue Nas actually looks good out there, nigga.
I believe.
Hey, yo, come on.
Hey, you look good out there.
And you're lucky that that was just a little straight girl just taping.
You said you was trying to go to a party.
Hey, let me tell you.
Right, nigga, pass up.
Nigga, if that was me,
yo, what you would have did?
You out there looking good.
And you under a little bit of influence.
You play some music, though.
Yo.
What's the fuck you saying?
You need to ride.
You need to ride, buddy.
Hey, hey.
Hop on in, buck off.
You lucky I don't own ice cream truck, nigga.
Yo, yo, they're gonna cancel you, bro.
You can't say that.
You gotta mute that.
I'm saying, I'm not gay, stupid.
No, you're not.
I'm saying if I I were a black, gay man that just stumbled upon somebody that was
like,
what's it do for family god or old?
Forget it.
Play too much.
Forget it.
Nigga, you and your drawing.
The work done.
Halfway?
The work done already.
You can keep the boots on, too.
This, I like that.
This.
Rattle cow.
Yo, first of all, these are jokes.
Refer to the tag in front of this podcast.
Nigga talking about an Emmy, nigga.
You talking about an Emmy.
You just cursed me, gave me a whole three-hour speech about winning the Emmy.
I told y'all that when we're missing co-hosts, if I get to talking to you,
I'm going to say something that shouldn't have been said.
It's been my moniker my whole life.
It's been my whole life has been this way.
Shut up.
My whole life is being this way.
Let's introduce the next topic, nigga.
The stupid ass family reunion happened.
They start sending me up my whole legacy back.
I'm still asking questions that date back to the slave days.
Everybody, get quiet.
Yo.
Hey, I know it's a proud moment.
Yo, so what did we do?
I start making
what we did to get this land.
Stupid me looking for an audit from the slavery days.
I'm like, yeah, but who was Jim's parents?
They talking about.
Crow.
Crow, yeah.
They're telling me about what Jim Button did in 1798.
All right, but who had him?
It's like, oh,
here you go.
Look.
I was like, oh, fuck it.
Fuck it, we ball.
Fucking we ball.
I like that, though.
Fucking we ball.
The type of nigga that do the same thing.
If you get back to slavery days, if you're light-skinned, you're gonna find it.
You ain't lucky.
Thank God for that.
White bird?
Why?
What?
Oh, my God.
It's funny how your whole shit could change, though.
Rosalie?
Your whole lineage could change depending on who, fuck who.
You can start one way.
Nigga, that's what you're saying.
The next hundred years, you're going to be another way.
The next hundred years, you're going to be another way.
That's why you got to be careful with who you hate.
Because y'all could be that.
You hate yourself.
Y'all could be who you hate fast.
Stupid ass me talking about who had a gym in 17 something.
Like, what are you talking to?
Because you know, I'm bad with geography and dates.
They talk about, well, Joe, that's.
You know what was going on.
Yeah, it was a certain system.
You know what happened at that time, right?
There was a certain system in place back then, you know, that prevented a few things.
Yeah, because they sent me my old, I kept reading it.
I should have kept reading it.
Dog, that shit is a blessing that they can even do that.
Like, that's fire that you're taking for granted.
No, I'm not taking it for granted.
That shit is dope.
My great great, no, my great-granddad was apparently him.
He was really that, he was that dude.
Like, he had a whole lot of land.
Like, I'm talking about like 175 acres of land.
Damn.
Oh, yeah, that he divvied up as he saw fit.
And the grounds that we had, our family reunion, was part of that.
That's
fire.
That's super fire.
That's fire.
My uncle 100 years ago.
I don't fucking know.
That's fire.
That's super fire.
Yeah, that's sick.
I was going to come in here and read it proud until I got to that
part.
The gym?
Stick stupid.
Because I shouldn't have asked.
I should have just shot.
Why is that not still prideful?
A prideful moment.
Y'all kept this land in y'all family for hundreds of years.
That's fire.
Yeah.
Nah, it reads a little shady.
But it is fire.
Yeah, you stupid.
I don't want to audit the slave days.
How many people in the group?
In 1800, the birth of James Budden.
See, James.
Jimmy.
Okay.
Who had a son with Louisa Budden named James/slash Jim Ferris Budden?
Okay.
Jim married a black woman from Africa named Sarah Reese.
See, if you got to put that in there,
make it very clear.
No, but that just lets you know she wasn't born in the United States.
Well,
I don't know about that.
Jim married a black woman from Africa.
That don't say that she's still there.
From Africa named Sarah Reese.
See, the implication, I think, is that she was.
She was picked up off the coast of Africa, but I'm assuming that a lot of people was doing that.
I think everybody was black, and that's how it was going down.
That's what I'm assuming.
Because that wasn't her name coming from.
They lived on the land of the family called Bossard, if I'm saying that right.
This area, privateer, was where free blacks and red bones air quotes lived.
From that union, Moses Button was born, who married Susan Conyers.
From that union, Willie Preacher Button was born.
That's my
great-granddad, who was him.
Willie Preacher.
And this story, I guess, reads like he was him.
In 1947, grandpa moved his family from Bossard
that his family was on for over 100 years to the land that Sumter High is on now.
1948.
He's on high school?
No, but the land.
The land that he moved to.
1948, he then bought that land, 154 acres, and built a house on Budden Street.
The land he bought is actually where the Sumter Career Center and half of Twin Lakes subdivision is on now.
He didn't own that land, but he farmed it, but he owned the 150 acres next to it.
After rezoning, he had to move his farm.
He subdivided that land up and sold pieces of it to his cousins.
Also, when he left Bossard, he brought his younger brother and sister with him to Sumter by helping them get homes there.
After he left that land, he bought 178 acres off of Kane, Kane, Savannah, where Aunt Lou live.
Love you, Aunt Lou.
He gave her that land and the five and a half acres where we had the reunion.
Not only did he buy that house on McCrae's Mill, he also built the store where Hazel is, yada, yada.
So he was that nigga.
He said that nigga.
He looked like to have that
land.
Back then.
This was some shit be happening.
Yeah, you made my uncle move that land.
Let me go look that up.
And niggas be suing winning that shit back.
Well, this is when, this is when, listen, I was down there.
When I go down there, it's kind of, you just learn.
But I was down there learning how much land, who got and where, who it got, who got cousin Brenda, you own a lot of shit.
My cousin Brenda owned a lot of shit.
I don't know the family.
Everybody knows.
God damn it.
They know now.
And I went in.
I snitched.
Snitching out.
I snitched.
Cousin Brenda, you're killing, goddammit.
Call me.
Your family got a lot of dope shit.
All my grandpa did was sell some oranges or or some shit.
That's crazy.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Damn, I'm sorry.
Made me feel like, damn, niggas ain't doing enough.
That's crazy.
That's why.
It was Florida.
Oranges?
At least he had the best.
They ain't even make no oranges.
He had the navel joints.
Damn, man.
But he's probably the best orange seller.
Don't do that.
We don't know.
Fred Bukasa oranges.
Oh, he was picking.
I want to hear it.
I want this to go back to his 200 years in Virginia.
I want to hear it.
With a tap of hand and correct.
Not now.
You ain't going to do it now because you don't speak to your uncle.
That's not down here.
That's from the Roanoke side.
You think you're more Native American than black?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's 50-50.
That's peace.
What are you laughing at?
This nigga, he wants to be black so bad.
You so stupid.
I love-ish.
Nigga, you Native American boy.
That's it.
You white, nigga, whatever you are.
You not black.
You kind of black.
You kind of black.
Wait, boy.
This shit stupid.
You see how passionate he is?
Lil Nas X, we praying for you.
What else needs our attention?
What else is super important or unimportant?
Justice Smollett.
Justice Smollett has a new special on Netflix that I didn't bother to watch because I'm sick of him and it don't matter no more.
Oh, I can't wait to watch it.
I watched it.
I'm going to watch it.
I just haven't watched it yet because get the fuck out of here, Justice Millette.
I watched it this morning before coming in here and it was an hour and 26 minutes of a waste of time.
There was nothing new said.
No new revelations.
It wasn't even funny.
You got your cathode out.
You could have used that hour in 26 minutes.
That was yesterday.
Yeah.
Nah, something new was set because he's still lying about lying.
Well, he's been lying about lying.
I know, but he's to still be lying about lying.
I understood when he was lying before when it looked like we might get a new season of Empire and a lot of money was on the table.
It's like, all right, go ahead and get your shit off.
For sure.
Now there's no Empire.
There's no show.
Your sister took off on you.
Yeah.
You're done, nigga.
Just say that you hired the Haitian niggas, went to Lowe's, bought the rope, choked yourself, did some freaky shit.
They interviewed the Nigerian brothers.
They interviewed.
the chief of police.
They interviewed the lawyers.
They interviewed him.
And we didn't get no answers?
No, there's no answers.
They pretty much...
What the African brother said?
He paid us to do this.
Well, Jesse said.
He was getting hate mail sent to Fox.
They said that, well, that's true.
He was getting hate mail sent to him at Fox, and he had addressed it to Fox.
And Fox really, he felt like Fox didn't do enough about it.
So he pulled one of the dudes, the dude was his trainer, one of the Nigerian brothers, and said, hey, I want to set this up.
I need you to also get someone else to make this look real.
That's when he got it.
Jesse, you know why I know that you did all that shit?
It's called a gut feeling.
Don't even say that.
It's called, I've been on this earth long enough that you didn't walk the subway at 2 a.m.
in Chicago in the 28th.
Stop.
Just stop that.
Yo, at some point, you caught in the lie and we got to come out.
We got to come clean.
I know it's tough.
I know it's tough.
It's difficult.
We black.
And
I don't care that the police overturned that shit.
I know that the police overturned the thing.
I wasn't ever running by what the police said.
I was going off nigga instant.
Common sense.
Yes.
You're done.
And I'm not mad with him like dying with the lie.
Like just stop talking about it.
It was a good plan.
You just can't rent the car under your name.
I mean, you can't.
If you sending people to Lowe's to buy the rope, you got to send somebody to meet them.
You don't watch docs.
Nah.
You can't go yourself as a famous person.
It's bad.
Jesse it crazy.
It was bad.
He is.
It was bad.
He is.
It's bad.
It didn't make me feel no different about nothing.
Like, Jesse, just leave it alone.
Just leave it alone.
Leave it alone.
We wasn't even thinking about this in China.
Just
hit to be.
It's over.
Yes.
Yes, a rap.
This shit.
He can't get no acting gigs again.
It's over, dog.
He gets some.
His sister popping, right?
Yeah, but he got some.
Yeah, but
she ain't even speaking to him.
You don't know that.
I don't know that.
You can't just say shit like that.
She ain't speaking to him.
You think she's doing all this?
Hit the movies, hit TV shows, and answering Justice's call.
No, she's not.
No, she's not.
Your sibling do something stupid.
Yeah, all right, though.
Wait, your sibling do something stupid.
You're not answering the call?
Joe, you out your fucking mind.
No, that's not true.
Stop.
I mean, I've done that.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I've gone through that.
I've done that already.
How long you haven't answered the call for?
Mad years.
Years.
Dead ass.
It took Pop to look me in my eyes.
Come on, man.
For me.
Forgiveness.
You know, I only got a little bit left.
All right, nigga.
All right.
But other than that, I'm not with we gotta talk because we family.
Like, by the grace of God, me and all my family is tight today.
But I'm not, I don't follow that.
Either.
If you do something stupid, I will never speak to you again.
Family,
immediate family is one thing.
We have to make this work.
Brothers, sisters, I'm not with all that, us defense.
No, we don't.
Cousins and all that.
No, we don't.
Nah.
We don't have to.
Born alone, die on.
We don't have to.
No.
We don't have to.
Family is a gift.
If you niggas start acting like y'all are not a gift,
then what I'm supposed to be home saying, oh, blood is
blood is.
No, nigga, it's family in this world.
But how can y'all live with yourselves and not speak to your sibling for
how do you put that in your mind?
Yo, I'm willing to not talk to you for the rest of my life.
I can't imagine that.
My brother got shot eight times, and I was mad at him for the superhero complex it gave him afterward.
Got it.
Like, I'm not playing that shit.
Oh, you think you're big and tough now?
Oh, this is a life that you're embracing.
Oh, that says, I got to get the fuck away from you.
Okay.
But with his life, whatever decisions he made, would it have affected you
in your life?
It's possible.
You have to take yourself out of the game so that you'll never get the answer to that.
Okay.
If one person is headed one way, and this is no longer the case, so please don't, again, me and all minds are great.
Got it.
Good.
But if one is headed this way and that don't align with where you're going, what the fuck are we talking about?
That's for me.
That's how I carry it.
Or if you've crossed certain boundaries and certain lines and done certain things, I'm okay with you.
Never speaking to me and vice versa again, because that means that you don't have my best interest at heart and you out here trying to, I'm good on you.
So y'all have never never been that brother?
Yeah,
the opposite.
I've never been on the other side or had to get some level of grace given to y'all?
No, no, no, never?
Okay, interesting.
I was bad.
My older brother was bad.
That's who I was raised with.
So, my mom took turns.
He's older than me, he's five years old.
So, he was bad first with a different type of bad anger management and temper problems.
My bad was all different type of bad.
So, we were bad different times.
And then we both got better.
And even in badness, some of the worst niggas be having the biggest hearts.
They'll be out here doing some wild shit over there and will literally be like, Yo, of course, yeah.
So, again, it's certain boundaries, in my opinion, you don't cross.
And once you cross them, I'm off you.
My older brother is an absolute sweetheart.
It don't matter that he put a gun to my head when I was 10.
Like, he's a sweetheart.
Yeah, you can.
That's my man.
Yeah, that's my guy.
I love him to depth.
It took a little while to get over that when I was small.
Man, ain't nothing but a 25, nigga.
Stop bitching.
Y'all playing.
He didn't pull it.
He didn't pull it.
I couldn't imagine a world where me and my siblings aren't good.
Thank God.
I couldn't.
Thank God.
No matter what.
That would do worse to me than anything else, probably, right now.
It's a blessing.
Because guess what?
What?
That's fucked up.
All day.
I don't give a fuck, nigga.
For the listening audience,
I'll put my finger down.
Like, fuck you.
I don't care.
I'm good on that.
Yeah, it up in there.
Family, I love you guys.
Yeah,
I love my brothers, older brothers, younger brothers.
I love my sister.
I love you guys.
You guys are awesome.
This life shit is short, but it's long, but it's short.
Yeah.
It's long, but it's short.
What else needs our attention?
What else is important, unimportant?
They got rid of Target CEO.
Yes, let's talk about it.
Yeah, they do.
Let's talk about it.
Let me hit the round of applause for that, too.
I'm excited about that.
Let me just say,
I did step into Target the other day to go grab some Lysol wipes.
Get some drawers, some new Hangs.
Nothing, no new Hangs.
You be getting new Hangs.
It was empty, though.
Shit, don't.
I haven't been in there in a long time.
Me either.
But from what I hear, they're getting their asses with.
It's empty.
It was empty in there.
One register open, maybe three people, and
everything looks good.
Spare shelves.
Shit looking like coal.
Everything looks stopped.
Oh.
Like no one's purchasing it.
It just looks.
worse when you go there and it's empty.
It's like, oh, they're not bothering to restock this shit.
They just went too hard with the DEI.
We don't need black dollars in here.
We'll be just fine.
And from what I heard, they went too hard on that stance.
And from what I heard,
they didn't do it.
They just did it to appease him.
And I said, so.
Right.
Like they said that they kept them, you know, they kept the money.
Yeah, they kept the monies where the monies were.
And they, you know what i'm saying corporate from this is what i heard from the corporate side they didn't really do anything different like the money that they allocated for these and these these they did it but to shut him up they said yeah we ain't with that all right you think the damage is done at this point like the stepping down do you think it can help
they got to put some seafood boils in there yeah
they got to get us back black ceo get some of that yellow rice yeah black ceo you know what time it is
we're for red lobster but for now the damage is done For now, the damage is done.
I've expressed your story similarly a few weeks ago.
I've gone in a few targets.
They all have been empty.
I like to see the black dollar take that type of stand.
I think it should happen more often.
I think we should take it with a few businesses.
I mean, you see every year during Cyber Monday or something.
People are like, ah, that's boycott.
But to actually see it occur,
honestly,
it's like when those Reddit niggas started just fucking with Wall Street and stock, hey, we're going to take our money and we're going to do this.
And this is the change we're looking to see and saw the effects of it.
Like, yeah, I think if that happened more, that's what the black dollar does.
That's true.
I like that.
I agree.
A thousand percent.
Yeah, I think it's fly.
Sorry, Target.
Yeah, I'm a support.
I ain't walking back in there.
Nothing I need from y'all that Amazon don't have.
Right.
That's it, yeah, yeah.
But that's the problem.
What?
That's the issue I'm fighting with.
What's what?
Because Amazon said the same shit.
No.
It was both of them, my nigga.
Really?
Yes.
Yeah, but one of them sent it to your doorstep.
One of them will get it to you in three hours.
Look, there's also other stores that maybe work.
Look how phony we are.
I'm not ready to boycott Amazon.
Yo, dog.
I don't really fuck with them.
I don't get my lube from nowhere else.
What I'm going to do?
Nigga.
You get your lube.
Go right to Amazon.
Go right to Walgreens.
Ask Corey how cheap them faucets are, the motherfucking fancy lights.
From Amazon?
Word?
Nigga.
Shit's fire for the cheap.
I ain't going to lie.
That's a great company when you can get faucets and lube all from the same spot.
They put them to get lube to the faucet.
And you have to get it.
Potato chips, all that shit to your door.
If I'm not mistaken, the stats say something like more than a third of the country orders from Amazon.
They're huge, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Again, it's anything.
Like, some shit, like, even when I'm buying shit for my daughter, I'll just see some shit.
You don't know where to go outside to get it.
Right.
Guess what?
It's definitely on there.
94% is on the Zane.
there we go pink trampoline dot slash choo choo truck
be here tomorrow for 9.99 yo dog sometimes you'll order some
it's 11 p.m that will say we'll be at your door between three and seven
of the you like huh what y'all around the corner Y'all gonna pack it, box it, give it to me by four.
Like, it's crazy.
It is.
Well,
salute to us to making a change in time.
I'm not talking to you niggas stealing the mail in front of somebody's door, man.
That shit is still thriving.
That's some you shit.
That shit is still thriving.
I never did that.
Oh.
I never did that.
Just shake the box.
I got mine from the gas stations like a real nigga.
Come here, nigga.
Get the.
Get over here, nigga.
Get in there.
Get in this fucking nigga.
I'm off it.
It's not working.
It's not working.
I'm telling you.
Don't be a hero.
Yep.
Come on.
Don't be a hero.
Come up off it.
Don't be afraid of her.
Don't be a hero.
Oh, I hate that.
The gas station dudes had that little knot, and they put after not I'm looking for it.
And I ain't have no knots.
Broke as could be.
So guess who about to get some knots?
Yeah, you.
You.
Don't be a hero.
The nigga told me that before.
I got robbed on Sunrise Highway coming from Green Acres Mall.
Sunrise Highway.
That nigga was like five down Brownskin.
Yo, me and my cousin decided to.
Peace voice.
We wanted to walk from Sunrise.
Rob Debonnell, yo?
No, I didn't want to.
We wanted to walk from Green Acres to Laurelton.
Which is a bad idea.
Horrible idea.
But we were young.
Nigga literally came up with a, don't be a hero, little nigga.
Give it
the worst moment of my life, yo.
How much they got?
Took your pants.
Stripped him down.
Looking like a little non-sexual highway.
What they took.
They just took my wallet and they took my cousin.
My cousin had dignity.
My cousin had a bag of clothes because we went to the mall.
They took all that.
They didn't take no.
The new bag?
The new shit.
He had some fly shit took.
Took your paces.
Paco genius.
Did y'all spend
damn man?
I'm gonna find him.
You're a fool.
I'm gonna find him today.
It's not too late.
That's crazy, yo.
Not to go back to music.
Have you heard Earl Sweatshirt's new project?
I haven't.
I actually just downloaded it.
I forgot to get it at midnight.
I got you.
I got you.
Hey, hey, Joe, buddy.
I did hear this.
Cut it down for a little bit, real quick.
Hey, yo, why they got me listening to pump it up when I answer the phone?
He's talking to you.
So Earl Sweisher did another skip.
Earl Sweisher is trolling me again.
It's like a four-minute troll.
The whole thing is funny.
We got time.
Fresh run for the new album.
Going to different podcast episodes, right?
Trying to talk to people, trying to
get you on this platform, that platform.
However, you got a past of beefing with rappers that has been an issue.
What?
I don't beef with rappers.
You do.
Example here.
We tried to get you on the biggest hip-hop podcast, but this
got in the way.
Cause it's not beef.
You was bullying Joe Budden
on national TV, and now we can't even get him to talk to you.
This is the behaviors of somebody who ain't trying to hit the top, man.
You running around making fun
i had never at that point i had never watched one single episode of 11 hip-hop at all my entire life i was going i was letting the ball cap you just letting it do the work yeah i was letting the ball cap take me where i it's weird because you do look like it immensely i found out like after the fact yeah yeah you do did you say that he wears sleeveless I didn't make no calls.
Yeah.
This is the day that I found out how important ball caps are to me.
But this is the thing.
Joe gotta take it up.
I didn't know
Wagua.
You know what I'm saying?
Wagua.
A bunch of white people knew that you like to wear your jackets with no sleeves on it and V-necks.
Wow.
And V-necks.
So it's V-3.
Is the dream through white people or the Euphronic past with the...
I'm going to pause this for a second.
Only because
I love
I love this.
I love that he is continuing to troll me this way.
He should.
You deserve it.
I feel like it's from the things that I've said about that elevator ride.
And you said some things after that shit.
And you did.
You shitted on him a couple of times after that.
No.
You went out the whole tirade about no bitches listening to Earl Slutshirt.
I'm never putting that music on because I feel like the beer.
That shouldn't have meant it was beef.
No.
And I guess he took that as me still being salty over the troll.
Yeah.
But I was saying I saw him at the Solange concert when I went to see Solange.
And Solange is earthy, so of course she got him to open.
And I just thought that wasn't the.
He also said,
he said that he had his back to the crowd the whole time.
You had a couple moments with Earl Switcher.
How come you can't say what you see and without it being taken as beef?
But anyway, that's beside the point.
Sure.
Last week or three weeks ago, it's how much of a, I don't know what time it is, last week or three weeks ago, a tweet was going around saying, yo, it's a shame that Joe Budden won't ever talk to Earl Sweatshirt again because of this.
And it was the,
the original troll.
And I wanted to retweet it and say, yo, this is not true.
Because it was gaining traction, like
a lot of traction.
I wanted to say, yo, I have absolutely no problem with that troll.
I'm not mad at Earl Sweatshirt.
I don't have any beef with Earl Sweatshirt.
But I think he saw that and is playing into it with this troll.
I love it.
I think it's smart, though.
And I think he should come up here and troll you in person.
Yeah.
Nigga, one of his peoples might have put the tweet out.
That's possible.
It was Earl's sweatshirt.
He's from Odd Future.
A rapper.
Originally.
Earl Sweatshirt is from Odd Future.
Hey, whatever elevator smoke I had, I pieced it up with Tyler.
Me and Tyler are straight.
Ben Staples is probably my best, best young hip-hop friend.
Like, I don't want no smoke with niggas.
I don't want a beef.
I like no beef.
I like the troll, and I don't think he wants a beef.
I think at this this point it's like, hey, it's all entertainment.
It's funny.
Call Joe Buddy.
I can't even get you on that phone.
I think that was dope of you to take the phone call.
We got Joe Buddy's phone.
I don't want to apologize to Joe.
Okay, let's just at least check in with him.
You know, Joe Buddy in here.
We can just check in with him.
Joe.
You messed it up pumping up in the background.
That's you.
Oh,
this is true, bro.
This dude is kind of like my manager.
I got you.
Hey, hey, Joe, buddy.
Hey, Joe.
Hey, turn it down for a little bit, real quick.
Cut it down for a little bit, real quick.
Love the record, dog.
Still going up.
I got Tank Bay here, also known as Earl Sweatshirt.
I love the record.
We wanted to let bygones be bygones and want to have them holler at you real quick.
What's good, bro?
How you doing, young man?
Look at your voice.
How you doing?
No longer on reality TV.
I'm strung out on drugs and I'm wearing denim vests.
Not strung out on drugs.
I didn't know that you was on TV.
Or what you used to do on TV.
And so I did want to tell you that I'm not sorry.
You're not sorry.
Hold on one second, get your butt.
I didn't told you I was
sorry.
Yo, this is funny, son.
This might be one of the MM skits.
That shit is funny.
The classic Eminem skits.
This is really funny.
That's good.
But why am I still listening to Pump It Up 22 years later?
Loud.
Loud.
Answering the phone to it.
That's hilarious.
I think you actually should start answering your phone to pump it up now.
Every time you're talking about love the record.
Like it just dropped.
Yo, Earl Sweatshirt, I don't have no beef.
And I'm going to listen to the table.
I can't tell if you're trying to come up here.
If you're not trying to come up here, I don't fucking know.
Would you let him come up here?
Is he entertaining?
I think from that alone, yeah, we know he's entertaining.
I think that'd be a good interview.
That's funny.
I think it'd be dope.
If he's entertaining, he can come up here.
What if he wears a vest?
He can still come up with it.
With the bald cap?
Earl sweatshirt.
Come up here and promote your project, man.
With the vest.
I like it.
Come up here, promote your project.
Yeah, put the vest on with the makeup.
And the ball cap.
Come up here.
It's no beef.
It's no smoke.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
I think all of that skit shit is hilarious.
I absolutely love it.
Well, you started crying in the original skin.
Yo, that was
a what.
Yeah,
they would have found somebody that had a little deeper voice.
That shit would have been funny.
Because now it's funnier that it's completely not his voice.
No, that's what makes it funny.
You You think that's funny?
That's making it funny.
He got a country accent and shit.
How do we feel about the Jake Paul and Tank fight?
I got two feelings.
Yup.
I got two feelings.
He's supposed to fight homeboy.
All this other shit I want to hear about.
He's supposed to fight Roach again.
Yeah.
That's some whack shit.
I don't care what nobody say.
Cool.
All that Corey saying, get your bag.
Cool.
But this shit is fucking up the sport.
Let's argue about it.
it come on it's up the sport i'm about to be a capitalist too no i
from a for from i mean he learned from floyd fam i got two ways to look at it from a sports perspective whack yeah it's trash
the sport and it's a sport that does not love you historically could give a fuck about you once they
milk you for all your usefulness will throw you out the pasture so if i can go get this bag for whatever that dollar amount is because we've seen for the last five years that Jake Paul has been a monster draw
and tank is the arguably the biggest draw in boxing, I'm going to get that money, man.
It's a part of being in the sport is first the love for the sport and a love of being competitive.
True.
So even if the sport don't love you.
That's old school.
Keep going.
Even if the sport don't love you in the moment, you still would want to at least be competitive, at least, right?
I concur, but I'm also going to be logical, rational, and I have a family.
We're always talking about this generational wealth that we're trying to build for our lineage and all of those things, these key phrases.
Yeah.
Yo, me being competitive and loving a sport, again, that is damaging to your body, damaging to your brain.
We've seen brain trauma, head trauma, all those things from people that participated in the sport.
I'm going to get this bag when the bag is presented.
But when you're at the top of your game, and by bag, he means $100 million if the reports are true.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and get it.
Okay, I I respect that.
What?
Just to put things in perspective, buy bag.
With minimal risk.
Also, if we're looking at Lamont Roach's
Instagram,
he's been posting as if there was a clause in the contract that said that they had to fight.
He's looking like the Netflix paid him out.
to get that clause out the way so we can get to our $100 million Jake Paul fight.
If you're Javante and if you're Lamont Roach.
But
if that's the case for him, then if everyone's happy on that side, I'm just going to...
You've been fighting niggas for free.
Well, I just hate when...
But listen, listen.
You've been on.
I hate for somebody.
When somebody comes to you with $100 million to do a bunch of people.
Let me give you $100 million, my nigga.
But I don't love boxing.
I hate when.
You didn't have to love it to do that again.
You love money?
I hate when somebody is at the top of their game.
Look at Don Kane.
Look at Don Queen.
Don Queen, and they stand for the sport.
Don Queen.
What does this tell the up-and-coming boxers?
What message is this?
Boxing is a dying sport.
When Floyd did what he did.
No, no, no.
Get yourself to a level where you can command $100 million a fight.
Everybody can't get there.
True.
So now you go and do your love of the sport shit.
And if you are good at it.
Well, how about we try to get a shot?
Shout out to Jay Pool.
How about we find a way to preserve both?
People can go get their money, but let's also make sure that we're still putting on weight class-centered events that people still want to pay for in season What do we talk about?
Emile, that is a thing of the past.
No, it's a thing of the past.
What are you talking about right now?
What are you doing?
The love of boxing.
Cool.
Your dog.
The core of it.
Well, that's cool.
See, this is why podcasters don't need microphones.
Why?
We're saying that somebody came in the corner office that you were sitting in,
slid a certified check across the table.
Not a personal check.
Not a personal check.
Certified.
It's good.
$100 million across the table.
And y'all are
for the love of the game.
That's the problem with you niggas.
You niggas die.
Right for the love of the game.
You get that money.
Money.
See, money change you niggas and you fall out of love with the passion.
And y'all stop going ahead and the shit that you talked before.
Remember all that?
The mission is great.
Nerd, nerd, nerd.
And all that shit you was doing.
You got the bread.
That's a hard time.
And
you forgot the mission.
No.
$100 million is the mission.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Nope.
I just want to ask you a question.
What's the mission?
I'm asking.
What's the mission?
The mission is to leave the game in a better place than it was before.
And guess what?
$100 million allows you to do that.
That's not always a part of leaving the game in a better place y'all be too focused on it could but there's also a part that when you focus so much on the money you take away from the art of something let me ask you a question do you think your mission can change as you change of course okay so now
at 49 years old my mission is that when i leave this planet for my two daughters to be in the best possible positions to win as citizens.
You're talking from a 49-year-old person.
When I was 29, I could have been talking all that bullshit that I wanted to talk.
He ain't 49.
This man is still a young guy.
He's still in the prime of his career.
He ain't got the point.
That's the problem that I have with your argument.
He could still regularly.
When I finish with you for $100 million,
I'll get to Lamont Roach.
I'll get to Shakur.
I'll get to everybody to stop.
I'll get to y'all.
Okay, if that's the messaging, then cool.
That's not the.
He just said he was retired.
He just said he was retiring.
Yo, dog, even if he retired, I'm not mad.
I'm not mad.
Yo, yo, and I hate to sound like this, but I don't.
And I don't like that, yo, money be changing people.
Because while that might be true, money also changes everything around that person.
Broke, if somebody offered me $100 million,
there's things I'm willing to do for it.
And there's things I'm not willing to do for it.
But fighting Jake Paul ain't one of them.
Indeed.
Fighting Jake Paul ain't one.
In an exhibition
in an exhibition fight.
That's not going to count against my record.
If I'm not broke, I'm taking the the hoodie.
I hear what y'all say.
It's free money.
All I said is there should be family.
I don't love boxing enough to want to preserve the sport.
I like an exhibition.
Okay, you don't.
But as for the people who do, and for the people who will love to preserve the essence of what the sport is, that can be an argument.
For those people.
That can be a point.
Awesome.
Yo, that era of boxing is over.
Nigga, that's trash.
It's over.
That era is trash.
We've seen my era.
That's trash.
I don't agree with that.
That's trash.
It's not, it's not.
I don't agree with that.
But it's not trash.
You guys are changing things evolving.
A lot of people are changing and evolving things
for the for the worse.
That's what you think you do.
That's not true.
That's the worst.
Tell me what the worst is.
The worst is people.
No disrespect in the world.
Muhammad Ali is one of my favorite black people that have ever grafed the private.
I agree.
My nigga, you want, that's the opposite side.
Doing it for the love is the opposite side.
No, no, no, no.
See,
y'all bugging.
No, hold on.
Y'all bugging.
There's a such thing.
Muhammad Ali was broke and had to keep fighting in a time where he didn't and shouldn't have been in nobody's ring because he didn't have the money to sustain living for the rest of his life without getting in somebody's ring at an old age getting hit on more.
Ish.
Fuck I.
There's a such thing as evolving something and then diluting something.
Exactly.
I think in this space, yes, any piece of art can evolve to the next step.
But even in evolution, you still have to preserve what it started from.
We talk about that with the hip-hop.
Hold on.
We talk about that with the hip-hop.
We talk about it with the RB.
We talk about it with everything.
different no it's not it's different art is art art is art it's different because hip-hop and r b are not doing physical damage to your body boxing is doing physical and mental damage to these niggas bodies to the point where they are not functional when they get 70 years old i understand that is a very big difference than making mutual
understandable we're not talking about somebody who is at that point We're talking about someone who's still fairly a young person.
He could get hit at 19 and end up like that.
But he's still finding somebody bigger than than him that can exhibit that.
It's exhibition.
They're not in there trying to hit each other for real?
Yes, they are.
You see Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight?
Was he trying to really hit Mike Tyson and hurt him?
No.
For $100 million, me and you tomorrow will go in somebody's ring.
I beat your fans.
What are we like?
You got me?
I'll turn your face red, nigga.
Guess what?
Hit me harder, yo.
100.
I understand what you're saying as far as preserving your health.
I understand all that.
Yo, the fans in us are selfish.
Listen to what I'm saying.
We are.
I hear what you're saying.
That's cool.
I get that.
But let's also not make it seem like some of these things do not dilute the sport for what it does.
It does.
But I think it does it for a good reason.
I think that fans, we're selfish.
And we want to see this barbaric niggas get in there and stay in total.
We don't even get mad.
We mad with Shakur for fighting the safe fights.
We just spoke about being a fight.
We just spoke about being selfish when it came to chance and all the things that he had to go through to deliver a certain album.
album, whatever you do within that art, we're going to be selfish.
We just want good product.
So we can't now talk about it and like you keep comparing it to music.
I'm talking about, as a fan of boxing, most fans want niggas to stand in the middle of the ring and slug it out.
And we don't give a fuck about the outcome as long as it's bloody and gory and somebody gets knocked out.
We are satisfied as fans.
That's not always true.
That's not.
That's not true.
Hold up.
We get mad at boxers now for picking and choosing their fights that are the most strategic and the most profitable.
We say that that is not what the old school boxers did.
That's true.
We didn't, old head boxers didn't do that.
And a lot of them have mental issues, physical health issues, and financial issues because they were, for the love of the sport, I want to fight the next best nigga up.
I don't care what the fuck is that.
I could be that.
But for the love of the sport, if you really, truly want to be wanting to be the best.
Take the fuck away from it.
Go do something else and not make it worse.
Don't leave it in a worse place than where it's already at.
He's doing something else.
He's still fighting.
People want to see him fight.
They don't want to see this exhibition shit.
Take us forward.
And that contradicts the point.
Tank is for whatever.
These exhibitions are not boxing matches.
I don't even know if I have the data to
report that it serves the same exact audience.
That's a good point.
I don't know that.
One, two,
if I put that $100 million check in front of either of y'all,
some words that I'm never going to hear is for the love of the sport.
And I like him keeping it in music.
In music, would you work with somebody that you didn't necessarily believe in or believed was more harmful to music than they were great for $100 million?
Hold on.
Don't answer for it.
I'm not answering.
I'm supposed to be providing theatrics while you think.
Because this is a matter that you have to really do some creative.
Because I'm using myself in my own experience.
I've done that before.
Not for $100 million.
I've done it for less.
Then you haven't done it before.
Then you haven't done done it before
what i'm saying to you when there was opportunities provided to where i could have succeeded in certain things i did not take up i wouldn't say nothing about you succeeding i got one we didn't talk but but at 41 years old
would you do it today
come on it don't waste the audience
yes
yeah don't you don't have to fucking spin
that stuff you'll be in that bitch we don't have to look at it who who who said the n-word what artist said the n-word
give Give me one.
I don't know.
The Morgan Wallet, dude.
How about that?
Morgan could call you tomorrow, Monty.
Hey, what's up there, buddy?
You man.
Counter horse.
What?
No way.
For much less than a hundred.
I hear what y'all saying.
All I'm saying is that there is also a side of the consumer and the people who really love the sport.
I guess they do things like this.
They're not taking it.
And they do not like it.
And I get that.
I get what y'all saying.
I'm speaking to that.
I'm speaking to that.
I get what you're saying, but there's also metrics that a lot of people watch this.
So obviously that responsibility wouldn't be on my shoulders if I were Tank Davis.
Also, again, I'm speaking from the perspective of a 40-plus-year-old man.
I've seen the prime of the greats.
I've seen, if we take Tank out of it, boxing is
not what we've seen from it.
We've seen Shane, we've seen Oscar, we've seen Triple G,
we've seen
Julio Tees and Chavez.
We've seen, what's my other man, Juan Juan Atturo Gotti, Vicks Trump.
We've seen Sugar Ray.
I've seen them all.
I've seen Marvin Hagler.
I've seen Tommy Hearns.
I've seen Duran.
I've seen boxers, fam.
A big part of why you don't see them.
The death of boxing conversation was happening long before Tank started winning belts.
There's some great boxes out here.
A big part of why we're not being able to even build into that and see who those people could possibly be is because people are now leaning into these big, glamorous paydays.
People aren't really...
If you can make $50 million to fight Jake Paul, would you step away from whatever your career choice is to do that?
I'm not even, I'm not even disgruntling.
I'm not even disgruntled with what Tank is doing.
I'm answering you by saying, I'm not disgruntled about what Tank is doing.
I'm only saying whenever we talk about an art, we always talk about a level of balance.
That's all I'm speaking to.
I'm not against him.
Go get your bread.
I would never be telling him to not go get his bread.
I'm just saying when we have these things happening, I would love of the game.
Because love of the game makes it seem like it implies don't get your bread.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying in these situations, I would love for whatever institution is built behind this, there's also some level of balance.
You got your 100 million.
Great.
Now give back to the sport in a way where we still preserve the essence of it.
However, that looks,
by humbug, yo.
Yo, bye humbug.
Yo.
He is giving.
He's the biggest drawing boxer.
If I keep talking, I'm going to sound like a piece of shit.
Yeah, he's giving to the sport.
I'm going to wash this fucking game.
I want to make it sound like I got a pure heart too, like he's talking about.
Yo, when you get your 100 mil, give it, give back.
No.
No, he's giving back.
That allows you to get it.
Why do you always talk to the niggas that's nine figures up like they have to now be philanthropists of the year?
If they want to go jerk off in the corner for the next 50 years.
You niggas are jaded, and it's fucked up that you're saying that.
Who you niggas?
I'm not jaded.
Because I don't agree with that.
At any point in my life, if you offer me $100 million for something that I deem doable and not shameful, I'm doing it.
I don't think fighting Jake Parr, I would fight him for free if he hit me in the house.
I never said any of that.
I'm saying to you, if you love something enough and you appreciate everything that it's given to you, you also want to see it left off in a better place than when you left it.
That's one way to go.
Always talk about that.
That's one P.O.V., though.
Also, if you love something, let it go.
Okay.
Also, if you love something, let it go.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with that side.
I'm agreeing with Imani.
I'm saying this.
Tank has been the biggest drawing.
Imani agreeing with us, you ain't agree with us.
He agrees with us.
He's just dancing around.
You don't agree with us.
No, no, no.
Fix your fucking words.
No, we're saying that he agrees.
I don't say two different things.
Let it go.
I don't agree with that.
Okay, I'm not talking.
I'm talking about our broad point, which is for $100 million.
Go get your Amani and Takashi new song will be right in your items.
Amani and Takashi new reggae tone slap will be right in your items.
I don't know what he's talking about.
You know how many ground You know how many brown bags we took
from niggas that contributes.
Bigger than that, a stipulation of the contract is you got to get a tattoo on your face.
Imani and be like, Grin, be soft.
Grin.
I'm just saying, nigga, we took the 3,700 from the nigga that was about to hurt the game.
We taking 100 million.
And we went to his studio
tonight.
Fucking Imani.
100 million.
Nigga be in there tattooing.
Grin to be on Imani face tonight.
100 million, we would never see him again.
He would go invest in Last Lap.
He would go invest in Saint.
That's true.
We would never see him again.
That's not true.
Yeah, whatever.
It's not true.
Our friendship wouldn't even exist if you're.
That's not true.
I don't know about all.
Yo, y'all, y'all.
That's why I'm glad that it was me that got rich.
Oh, man.
Because, like, I'm going to keep the friendship.
I'm going to keep the friendship alone.
Everyone up here is going to be rich, right?
You ain't going to be the only one.
I'm glad that it happened for me early so I could set the example.
It didn't happen for you late.
How to maintain our friendship.
It didn't happen for you early.
It happened for you late.
I thank God for that too.
Thank you.
I thank God for it.
Some of them niggas that was 20.
Hey, nothing, nothing.
40 is not that late to get rich, by the way.
Well, but I'm just saying, if it's 20 plus years into your career,
it's late.
And a lot of people wouldn't choose that, right?
If you had the choice, yo, do I want to get lit early and trust what I do with it, or do I want to struggle and get lit later?
Most people are not choosing literally.
I wouldn't never have wanted, would I know now?
If I would have got that real, hell no.
I'd have been fucked up.
I would have
20.
I had to get all these niggas' hands on me.
Give me my fucking money now.
Let me.
Give me what?
Flip, you don't tell me what to call.
I'm just saying.
I'm gonna tell you, I'm telling the truth.
Yeah, but it's
hands was in my pocket.
And I agree with you.
I understand.
Bad time to hit a lick when you gotta come and dippy the pot.
See, right.
I had to get rid of the hands.
Well, it meet me the other day.
I see why you don't want to rap.
You fucking right.
You.
Yo.
See?
Yo, you got that nigga hit me too, didn't he?
Well, bit me, yo.
I totally understand now.
I know.
Right after that time, you're goddamn right, buddy.
Without the hands?
Yo, spread the love.
I get it.
I get it.
Huh?
Spread the love.
Yeah, nah, he spread out.
He did enough.
1.5.
Yo, I never seen so many niggas just coughing at 1.5.
Tie with this fucking.
Yo, in my life, I've never seen
suck their teeth at a one point.
Look at that.
Look at his face.
Joe.
Look at the money's face.
Are you fucking serious?
Corey sounds like a nutcase.
I agree with Corey, of course.
We know.
Fuck.
Are you serious?
Yes.
I've never seen that before.
Not where I come from.
Yes, you have.
Not where I come from.
Yes, you have.
You've been there.
You're about to piss me off.
Yes, you have.
I've never been there.
You sucked your teeth at 40.
The fuck is you talking about?
Let's take a look.
That's not 1.5.
And that's not 100.
No.
That's not one.
That's not true.
And that's not one.
And neither is the 1.5.
That's not true.
Huh?
That's not true.
Oh, that's cap.
The 40 is not true.
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
I'm asking.
You scoffed.
No.
I didn't have this conversation with him.
No, you didn't scoff at the 40.
You scoffed at what came with the 40.
He didn't.
No, no, they didn't come to.
I had a floor of what I thought it should be.
They didn't meet the floor.
I stuck to my guns.
My middle name is stick to my guns.
You're not going to pivot today.
I came a a lot to it.
I'm going to stay on 40.5.
You start talking about 40 and you good with mad.
No,
you said I've never seen nobody scoff at 1.5.
You didn't say 5.
40 a month is not one.
Huh?
$40,000 a month is not one.
I didn't say $40,000 a month.
What do you mean?
He's about to $40 million that you was offered.
He ain't talking about $40,000.
Talking about $40 million.
Oh, nobody scoffed at that.
That's not true.
That's what I said.
That's what I said.
I didn't scoff at that.
I had to scoff at that.
That's real, bro.
Don't even paint me like that.
Don't paint me.
You got to have real conversations.
There's no, I'm not, don't paint me like that.
That's wrong.
Listen, that's wrong.
Listen to this.
And that don't get to your desk for me.
Just, that ain't the bust.
That ain't $40 million is just not stopping for opportunity every 10 minutes.
That ain't true.
I did not scoff at that.
That took a lot of sleepless nights to say.
Listen.
No.
Our behind-the-scenes conversations are behind-the-scenes conversations.
They're not for this broadcast.
What I'm going to say is this: nobody up here scoffs at 1.5 either.
Thank God.
Thank God.
If I take you at your word, then just thank God.
Yo, I got to go.
Oh, shit.
Salute.
Before you get to that, I understand because you told me.
What were you just saying?
That's why.
That's the scoffing.
He's scoffing.
I hate that that happened just now.
I hate that.
I hate that.
I'm going to repeat that one more time.
No, no.
Because you're right.
I feel if I'm taking you at your word.
Nobody's scoffing at one point.
Who's squaring?
Okay.
Who's scoffing 1.5?
That conversation is over.
What'd you say?
Who's scoffing at 1.5?
Don't talk about that.
You know that.
Stop watching for me.
Go ahead, man.
If you got to go, go.
I know you got to go to Invest Vest.
I know I'm investing in your fest.
What are you doing in there?
Man, you bad Courtney.
Yeah, why are you doing this?
I'm investing in your fest.
What are you doing that the other way?
I'm just saying.
You got to go soon.
He has to go soon.
I'm aware.
Some people are coming in.
Some people are not coming in.
I'm aware of all these schedules.
And boy, does it feel like 1.5 has been spent.
Well, some of the people coming in.
Yeah.
He talks a shit.
See,
I don't share the same sentiments.
When they leave,
we're going to be talking again.
We're going to be talking again.
When Debo leaves?
Hey, these two leaving, they have engagements
where they have to catch a plane on the workday.
And I understand that.
Joe.
We're running a trillion tolerance programs.
Joe, are you serious?
What are you talking about?
Yo, why do you do that?
Why do you give this?
I don't know why you give this to the world.
Why do you do this?
You know what?
We all have a trillion tolerance program.
That's what I just said.
We.
Oh, well, thank God.
Okay.
Thank God.
Speak it French?
Yo.
All right.
Paul Voufranse.
You text me early.
It's the SWAT.
Yo.
One SWAT.
It's the Squad.
It's going to be just like the old studio days.
Oh, yeah.
Just me and Monty and Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Nah, it shouldn't be that way.
Stuck in the moon.
The moon.
Stop looking at me like that.
1.5 change over the moon.
1.5 used to be like a thing.
Now,
yo, I got a boogie.
Make it work.
What else is important?
Because y'all have to.
Oh, fuck it.
And I don't want to hold y'all.
You're an idiot, bro.
I don't want to hold y'all.
It'd be me, Ian, Parks.
And then I got to deal with the narratives that come from that.
What's the narrative?
It's all Japan.
The ones you put the world out to the world.
All right.
No, I'm not putting them out to the world.
Listen, when they see the shit star and it'd be me, Parks, and East Sydney, y'all know what time it is.
What's it?
Y'all know what time it is.
What would the narrative be?
Oh, I don't know because I don't come up with it.
But y'all know that.
You don't think this is contributing to it.
If we take a picture on the balcony and it's me, Parks, and Imani, just know what's going on in that shit.
I don't care what y'all saying.
I'm dealing with facts.
That's it.
That's it.
And you don't think you're saying this is very good right here.
All I do is lean into a narrative.
Oh, okay.
That's all.
That's my defense, but I'm not knowing what's true and what's false.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, you know what, though, we don't.
We We lean into all of them.
We do appreciate you being understanding.
I can tell.
Yeah, I appreciate you being understanding.
No, no, I can tell.
I mean, I suffer from you being understanding.
And you profit.
No.
No.
And you profit.
It's a given take.
It's a given tape.
And you, it's a give and take.
No.
It's more of a.
Yo, that's funny.
Give and take on which side, though.
It's okay.
We don't have to do that, brother.
Hey, my brother, we don't have to do this.
I love you.
You're doing great.
I love you.
I love that for you.
And I'm glad that any way I can support or help.
Positively.
No,
that pound wasn't.
That wasn't a pound.
Yeah, you turkey.
You gave that nigga the finger.
That's like a finger pound.
That's the worst app, too.
Yeah.
What else needs our attention before these brothers head to the airport?
There was the Villanova shooting hoax.
I don't know about that.
No.
Serena on Ozempic.
I hope she ain't losing that thing thing.
She lost the thing thing.
It's going to be a long time.
What would it matter to you?
And she turned white.
She's nice to look at.
Well, you know.
I love Serena.
I know.
Don't you?
She said she turned white.
No, I'm just saying, like, she's not.
Serena's skin has changed.
Serena lost her ass.
That's how we knew something was going on.
Her ass ain't the way it was.
Husband white, right?
Same way.
Yeah.
You think he, come on, re-read?
You think he re-quested it?
Slim it down a little bit.
I'm glad she actually said, yo, I've been on Ozipping Health, yada, yada, yada.
What that bullshit mouse at?
I've been on SM1,
SM1312.
Triggering
Yo, y'all been on my ass for kicking on George Lucas back in.
Oh, they got you, rightfully so.
They've been on my ass.
I was older.
They've been on my ass.
I was older than the Star Wars people from Red Muff.
I was one of those people.
I wasn't into Star Wars, and then I got older.
I watched it.
Star Wars is good.
Now, there's certain ones that is bullshit, but for the most part.
Yo, I was having a good time.
You're being a potter.
Yeah, I think that's fucking the brilliance of me.
I was having fun.
I had fun with my friends.
Say us, yo.
What?
It was the the brilliance of us.
We created a dialogue and a conversation.
No, I created the dialogue and a conversation, and y'all contributed.
That was my George Lucas.
They are fucking you up.
But listen now.
But they fucked me up.
Listen.
This guy is.
I was only comparing movies.
But directors.
You were comparing to directors.
Joe, you said that George Lucas.
George Lucas is more than a director.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like they say.
Yeah, George Lucas, what he was doing in the 80s,
and they say he went and founded the technology that then became Pixar.
He's not just a director.
So it's a slight to him to even compare him to directors.
I understand that point.
However, if we only talk in movie, and they say these are two names that no movie goer would ever pit together.
I understand that too.
I understand that too.
Man, true.
But looking at Christopher Nolan's movies,
and I never was R2D2 like that.
Okay.
Like, that wasn't my shit.
Now, you look like C3P.
I don't know who that is.
The robot.
The go-to.
The tall goggle with the rounds.
I got too much pussy to know about any of what y'all saying.
If y'all know what I'm saying.
I got too much pussy.
I thought you were going to be a little bit more pushed.
I got too much pussy in my life to know about what
you were doing.
Star Wars came out before you was getting pussy.
But I was prepping to get a lot of pussy.
I was preparing.
So that stopped you from.
I was preparing.
Hey, yo, shit, too.
Yo, I'm not sure.
They say
the Star Wars people and all that, they be having them.
They're at the little convention.
They do.
Right now, niggas right now.
They got the bad.
Good for them.
And I don't want my jokes to make it seem like I don't understand what that did when it came out.
And that's part of it.
And after.
And after.
Yeah.
$5.3 billion empire.
That shit is monumental.
Mike.
Don't think because I was shitting on George Lucas that I got beat for George Lucas.
I don't.
George Lucas is him.
And I really don't even qualify to be able to shit on George Lucas.
That's what makes it fun.
It's more fun when you take a name that you don't have.
Should never mention.
No business.
That's why the internet is funny.
Yeah, for real.
Hey, some of you niggas out there that's talking shit about me, guess what?
You have no business to do that, but you do it because it's fun.
And I accept it.
That's a good point.
Anyway.
That's a great boy.
Anyways.
Go ahead.
You got to get it.
Go ahead.
You don't have to be here.
That nigga over there looking at you like days.
Listen.
Yo, listen.
As long as I got perks, this show will go on.
You could go.
Y'all niggas could, y'all mean, leave us.
Leave.
You're taking your KFC.
I wanted a bite.
Bitch ass nigga, book a KFF.
You booked an early fight on a Friday?
Nah, that was a mistake.
Well, you ain't cash.
You leaving kind of early, though.
Which would be kind of early.
What time is your flight?
4.59.
Yeah, he's leaving late.
Yeah, that's disrespectful to the...
That 1.5, boy.
I would do that again.
I would do that again.
Well, you know?
I would do that again.
You're making 1.1.
I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
Yeah.
They're making it easy.
They're making it easier.
That's the same thing to mother niggas.
All right.
Come on.
What else requires our tech?
We've been running our mouth so long that we done blew by it.
I do have a part of the show here.
This is fast.
DJ Stiddum.
DJ Stidham.
What's up, bro?
He says, shout out to Joe and the cast.
Quick question for the cast.
Given most of the cast's new health journey, have any of you had the chance to check out the Netflix documentary about the show, The Biggest Loser, called Fit for TV?
It's pretty crazy the way the producers and trainers treated the contestants.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
I got about 10 minutes left in it.
It's three episodes available on Netflix right now.
Also, let me say, I hate the new Netflix interface.
That's the first thing I was about to say.
Yeah, it's trash.
That shit is horrible.
They made me do it.
I've been
avoiding that dock.
Yeah, they forced it on me.
Because it's the first thing and then it pops up on like everything.
Now, I ran right to that dock because the biggest loser was a huge television show.
They had a lot of success and a lot of seasons.
And I already know what they was doing behind the scenes to these fat people.
So I rushed to it.
And sure enough, I mean, it's not as funny as I thought it would be.
I thought they would be doing more to the fat people.
I haven't watched it.
What were they doing to the fat people?
Putting them through strenuous obstacle courses and challenges.
And with every passing season, they had to invent more.
They were basically trying to create an entertaining TV show based off these people losing weight,
which is an oxymoron kind of.
Because it says we're here for health, but we're not here for health.
We're here to entertain.
So like in one part, they was making these, these, it was two big sisters, and one of them was on like some ballerina bars, almost like she was doing dips, and she fell.
And when she fell,
the producer shook the camera, too.
Like he was like, oh, she fell the camera.
That's pretty funny.
That's fucked up.
And it was focusing on the two trainers.
One was a woman, recognized, well, I think her name was Julia and a guy named Bob.
If I fuck those names up, forgive me.
But the trainers were just in your face.
They were loud.
They were aggressive.
And they would push you.
Like military
type.
Yeah, they were military type people.
So it was entertaining.
I thought it would be more abuse.
I've been covering up.
Yogurt murders on HBO.
That's another one.
It's too sad for me to finish it.
Yogurt?
It's just called the Yogurt.
Yo, yogurt murderers.
Yogur murders.
Yeah, about
four girls that were killed in a yogurt shop.
In the 90s.
91.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I need a break sometimes from just all the killing.
I haven't had a good murder doc in a long time.
So I love good murder docs.
I feel like that's the only thing that's on TV at this point.
There's a lot of bad ones.
The good ones.
I definitely want to see that biggest loser joint, though, man.
Having worked in reality TV, I always love to see the behind the scenes, the behind-the-scenes stuff.
And I have a thing about fat people.
Like, I like them and everything.
Like, I don't mean like a...
Thanks for clearing that up.
Yeah.
Got to, because I don't want to.
But I.
Why are you looking at me like that?
What's the thing?
I just want to hear what's coming through.
I'm just, I'm fat, I'm fascinated by their
psychology is the thing.
Like, you weigh 800 pounds and there's a pizza here, and there's
a vegetable tray there.
Just don't eat the pizza, right?
Like, you could, but I know it's not that easy for them.
It's like, it's like an addiction, like we were talking about.
And so, getting to like what got them there for me is an interesting story.
And so, to see that, like, sullied by like producers that are fucking with them.
Yeah, like, those producers took all of their favorite foods and made mountains out of it.
And then
they put them in a room to see if they had the discipline to not eat.
And who the hell has that discipline?
No, we're going to eat a mountain of Reese PCs that you want to do.
Yo, we used to do that VH1.
When we knew somebody was an alcoholic, we'd leave like not weed, but the producers would leave like alcohol in their dressing room.
No, we was right.
Weed was like
executive.
That seems to be funny.
What's that?
1.5 work crazy.
Look at what you laughing at.
Just walk out.
Yo, look at what you're laughing at.
Yo, that shit.
That's crazy.
It wasn't funny.
I remember one time we we had to lock Tierra Marie in the closet because she was so hot.
Yo.
Wait, is this inappropriate?
No.
No, that's not, but that's awesome.
Not for the joke, but.
So you locked Tiara Marie in the closet.
Yeah, what happened was, Tiara Marie, yeah, because she was...
She was going through real substance abuse.
Like,
alcoholism.
I didn't understand all that.
All I know is she walked in the room.
We were on set, and she walked up to me.
I'm the host.
This is VH1 Live.
And Ray J was there with Princess and her dog.
And she said, yo, Mark,
I'm going to punch her in the face.
And then I'm going to take the dog and throw it outside.
You got me?
I was like, no, I don't fucking got you.
But what's the got me, though?
Like, follow up?
Like, are you down?
Like, are you going to follow up?
Like, no, we're not making a plan.
I was supposed to be doing
a tease with Ray J and Princess for the show because we go live at eight.
And she was like, why are you doing this thing?
I'm going to sneak up, punch her, and grab the dog.
Cool?
And I was like, no, that's pretty fucking far from cool.
So
after her trying to do that twice, the producers walked her into her dressing room and locked the door.
But it wasn't a dressing room, it was a closet, it was literally a closet.
I want to reiterate, it was an actual closet.
And but the crazy part is, we shot that, we did the drop, we did the thing, we came back out.
Dog's fine, dog was fine, no dogs are hard, no animals are harmed in this process.
And when we finally let out the closet, not like an hour later for the interview, or half hour later for the interview, she just walked out like she wasn't in the closet for an hour.
And that's when I knew there was a potential drug problem, which I did not know.
That's crazy.
shout out to everybody involved oh teas and p's this nigga trying to make a late surge for part of yeah look man we just talked i just want points on the board though hey dog you weren't in this episode yes i am
the felt the the remaining members had to keep the water from flooding it we had to hold keep make sure the ship was afloat so people like you could come in at four o'clock don't try to come in with let me tell you what uh we had to lock the airborne don't start
You keep something with a good story.
Good story waiting every month.
Yeah.
Somewhere around the 20.
Well, this is coming a little later.
What is it?
The 24th right now?
Yeah, get out of here with your shit, Miz.
I don't think I'm aware.
I know I'm not going to.
It's between you.
Honest to God, and I told you this yesterday.
I'm really proud of you.
You really...
You've grown.
You stepped it up.
You stepped it up.
You're doing really well, Joe.
I'm talking about Joe.
He's really holding his own this month.
And mine is right behind you.
Either one of you two don't win.
I'm proud of y'all, man.
Y'all got ADHD or something.
I'm gonna figure something out.
Now, you got, I think the cancer thing did it.
Yeah, that's why I'm not performing because I want him to lose it with his announcement.
That wasn't an announcement.
That was an announcement.
He was outed.
That was y'all.
I was outed.
I don't fall for Monty tricks.
Please.
You did?
You came to the next episode with your pants.
Yeah, stop it.
Oh, my Catherine is sticking out.
You think niggas don't know your tricks?
You think me unloosening my buckle that no one can see on camera was a trick for the cameras?
That's what I just said.
No one could see it on camera.
So how would you get it?
I got the baggy pants, the listen, you guys, I've been battling.
I've never said something like that.
You guys didn't know, but I've been dealing.
Let me tell you what I've been dealing with.
Shut the fuck up.
Nigga, now we can tell the truth now, cancer-free.
Hey, we know your tricks, buddy.
We know your tricks.
I know the strategy.
Yeah.
This is small.
It's smooth.
Because, one, you get forgiveness for the bad episodes, and you get grace for the good episodes, extra points for the good episodes.
Yes.
Yeah.
They're like, well,
new pussy, old pussy, all great things.
If you stay alive, all great things come from this.
That is crazy, yo.
Yo, you're bugged the fuck out.
I am.
I think this is a solid.
I usually disagree with him on shit like this, but I think he's right.
It's okay.
What's your favorite two?
You look too close to me pointing fingers like that.
That certainly looks like a threat.
This ant afris behind me.
Exactly.
It's cool.
I learned about you, lesson.
Won't give so much sympathy out on stage one anymore.
Gotta get the three guys.
Gotta get the three out of the bus.
This gotta get close to the terminal.
Yo, yah, you might beat it.
You might beat it.
Yo, yah, it's crazy.
Oh, man.
What a great show, man.
Listen, you guys are awesome.
You guys are awesome, man.
Couldn't have done it without y'all.
Holy shit.
Salute to Ice.
Salutes to Phillips.
Shout out to Ice, Philip, Mel,
all here with us in spirit.
We love y'all.
But this is a squad right here.
Here you go.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there till the next time.
I bid you a due farewell.
Adios, Riba Derci, Asta, La Vista, Arbois.
So long, goodbye.
Well, a simple head nod will suffice.
Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
Ayy.
Ayy.
Lastly, the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.
Ayy.
Anybody doing anything interesting this weekend?
I know Ish is going for Invest, Best.
Amani, what say you?
Not a thing.
Staying home, chilling.
Mark, what about you?
Just prepared somewhere.
You and Ben at the Apollo again.
What you got going on?
Nah, man.
Doing my little.
I got to write my syllabus for the weekend.
I think the grandkid's going to come up and take him to the zoo on Sunday.
Bye.
That's dope.
Which zoo?
Bronx zoo?
Irvington Zoo?
Nah, man.
I'm out that game, man.
We right at Turtleback Zoo.
Where it's safe.
Bronx Zoo is out.
It's still safe.
Parks, what you on this week?
I'm going to Puerto Rico.
You want to see Bad Bunny?
Bad Bunny.
Oh, yeah.
We lit.
Yeah, we lit.
That's lit.
I can't wait.
I've never been to Puerto Puerto Rico before.
You bring me
your wife?
Neither.
She's bringing me.
Look at his face.
Boy, she's Spanish.
So
she might be treating.
Holding it down.
How does he do this?
We're going to have like a real talk.
My next question was about to be: Were you a gentleman and paid for her flight?
And he says, She's bringing me.
Got a sweet deal, man.
Yo.
Yeah.
Complexion for the protection, man.
Oh, man.
This is Kapool.
Yo, this guy.
Yo, man.
No, but Parks does love Bad Bunny.
He does, though.
Y'all have a good time.
We're going to bless.
And I know he's absolutely going to smoke that show.
Yeah.
Doing a residency for four months straight or whatever it is is insane.
I can't wait for him to leave because that's what I'm saying.
That being said, our tickets are kind of bad.
So if anybody out there is with Bad Bunny people, hit me up.
Look at you using the pod.
Man, fuck it.
That's nice.
We're in the booties, man.
And he got the money, y'all.
Oh, yeah, I'll pay.
We know.
It's the least you can do, since you care the triple.
But listen, listen, listen.
Don't meet them down the alley for the tickets.
No.
I keep.
I keep popcorn.
We're saying what?
Parquet.
That's a spot.
There's used to be a spot.
I don't know if it's still open lasers, Club Lasers, and Osama.
That's the spot.
It should be a spot.
Make sure you slide through.
I've got people's dad.
I'll let you know.
Don't worry.
I know you sleep.
Be careful, though.
They should be down there all the time.
Don't bring the pool with the rhinestones.
No, I'm gonna leave that.
Research.
There you go.
There you go.
Biology.
When I begin, that's right.
That dick is.
When I'll be allowed, right?
Oh, he's been Condado, Carolina,
all the places.
They're saying it just like that, too.
That Condringam.
Wow.
You got a roller.
You rolling the shit out there, R, man.
You should see me down there.
I bet.
I was single.
That R was rolling.
That wasn't all of it.
Everybody, don't forget my man is adding best vest today.
That's right.
Pull up.
Pull up.
Yeah.
Yo, Ish, what are you going to do when you board the plane?
You put your shit on the overhead.
You sit down, the plane seems like it's about to take off.
And then the guy that's running late for the flight runs in, opens your same compartment, shoves it.
Moves your back around.
Moves your shit.
They don't do that without sit.
But if that happens, what would that do?
It wouldn't happen.
In first class.
That don't happen.
But if it happened,
start laughing.
Come on now.
The stewardess handles that.
The flight attendant handles that.
Flight attendant.
That's right.
I just changed it.
Yeah, you go.
The flight attendant handles that.
There you go.
Talk about it.
That's my man right there, man.
Go out there and kill that shit, man.
What am I doing this weekend?
I'm looking for something to wear to my birthday dinner.
You still ain't figure it out?
Not yet.
Stylist ain't you.
Oh, that's right.
They got him.
They got him, though.
And I got to find something to wear for my son now.
Wow, what?
Because he ain't got nothing to wear.
He's coming in.
Oh, you got to come.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
I got to get it together.
Other than that, I'm chilling, man.
I'm chilling.
Not too much going on.
Peaceful vibes.
Peaceful weekend, man.
My last week being 44, man.
Thank God.
It's hard to get somebody to get
more than six days.
It's not the hardest.
Oh, shit, you're party soon.
The party is a week from today.
You sit next Saturday.
Hey, fam, you look like a model.
What the fuck is you talking about?
They don't even gotta take in the jacket on parks.
A little bit right here.
What you got again?
Polio?
Yeah,
a model with polio.
I'm polio.
We're polio.
Yo, what are you talking about?
This guy's a nutcase, man.
Y'all hold it down out there, man.
Everybody enjoy their week, and the goal is to get back home.
We'll be back, God willing, same time, same place next week.
We absolutely love y'all.
Y'all hold it down.
Summer's dwindling down.
Hey.
We're getting to fall in New York.
You're going to have to buy a coat.
You're going to have to buy you a jacket at some point.
Oh, the host ain't wearing no jackets.
Don't care.
Hey.
Virgo season.
You know the vibes.
Now, when there is your birthday, March, 18th, September.
JVP, JBP.
Where would you be without the JVP?
We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we got.
we fuck you got
that we'll fold that up right now
don't look away now
pussy