Episode 865 | "Titty F***ing Republicans"

3h 27m

The latest episode from the JBP begins with Bad Bunny being named as the 2026 Super Bowl halftime performer (20:03) before turning to new music including Jeezy’s new album Still Snowin’ (34:50). Joe wants to do a proper review of Young Thug’s new project (48:20) as well as react to his thoughts on therapy following an appearance on The Pivot Podcast (1:01:20), Kai Cenat reaches 1 million subscribers during Mafiathon 3 in which the room reacts to the rap freestyle segments of the stream (1:21:14), and the Cardi B and Nicki Minaj feud continues (2:05:00). Also, Diddy’s sentencing takes place later this week (2:31:49), Joe and Marc react to the New York Mets missing the playoffs (3:00:36), TELFAR and Timberland collabs (3:07:54), and much more! 

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

I repeat, it is not serious.

It is not real.

No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

or telling you anything about themselves.

Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Enjoy the show.

Uh-uh.

One, two, one, two.

Get your voices right.

That means you.

My voice ain't gonna get right.

Nope.

We good.

This is what it is.

Yeah.

Heard it's poppin' in the club.

Gotta get right.

Hey,

let's get right.

They ain't gonna go right back.

We up in this piece.

Yo, my son.

Mike, Mike, Mike.

What's up?

No, I just noticed there's no chair here.

Yeah, we've we removed the chair.

Joe, I came in here at like 10 o'clock and sat here for a half hour, and there was no furniture, and I didn't notice.

Yeah, I walked in, I was like, What?

Damn, what's going on?

And Mark was like, Oh, yeah, the fuck is Park Starker?

But I looked at the whole place was empty.

Yeah, I'm glad.

I'm glad I missed that.

I thought y'all moved it out.

I'm glad y'all fixed it back.

Hey, Corey, I'm glad you got it back together before I got here.

Oh, yeah.

Me and Corey lifted the couches and stuff.

Yeah, he tried to hit me yesterday and say, Mark did not do that.

That was Erickson.

I didn't think that Erickson.

I get black people mixed up.

Okay.

Oh, shit.

One of us.

I can't think about that.

I supervised it.

Glad that this thing is back looking like it's supposed to look.

What?

What's going on, man?

You going to shit?

Let me know what happened, yeah.

No, the couches came.

I bought the wrong couches.

So they had to take a map.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's all.

And then Corey thought that, and this is after they had carried them all the way up here, couldn't fit in the elevator.

So they wasn't about to come back up and help Corey put the couches back.

So he hit me.

Ew.

Like I put the couches back, nigga.

All right, put them back.

Did you respond to put your fold down?

You're looking.

But no, my thing is, Corey knows me better than that.

Corey knows me better than that.

I couldn't have put no couches back.

He should have known that that meant tomorrow, Eric, when Eric's gonna get here.

Get us right.

Yeah, y'all can take care of that.

What's up, y'all?

How y'all doing, man?

Good, man.

Excellent, man.

Good to be.

Good.

Happy to see y'all.

For sure.

You're looking good.

You're smelling good.

Yes, yes.

Flip, what up, man?

What's up, my nigga?

I see you got that Lululemon on.

Yeah, you were making jokes about it early.

Don't try to jump in front of him.

No, no, no.

This is when the

man do this.

This is when the murder doc does a reenactment.

It's not really them, but this is what happened.

You got your Lululemon on.

I do.

Why?

Wait, what's Lululemon?

I thought women wore that.

What's Lululemon?

No, I'm not being funny.

I thought that.

No, no, you're being funny.

Lululemon.

I swear to God, my daughter's guilt shop shit.

I didn't know that.

I don't know what it is exactly.

Lululemon is

athleisure

shapework

this gym clothing he draws

i mean but mark i really do you are correct though women typically they make men's stuff yo women typically do

it it's like

see already we being sexist and ignorant and immature that's not true that's what we do a woman woman a woman started this company okay that's the fact and they had flip in mind they made men's and women's clothing.

From the beginning.

From the start.

Okay.

They still do.

And it's shape.

It's like shape.

It's shape.

Girls weird.

If you ever see girls with body wear the types that like have a design on them.

Like the outlines of where certain curves be.

Yeah, that's typically Lululemon.

But anyway.

Wait, so where's your outlines at?

Yo.

Hey, yo,

I'm starting a gym, man.

So, you know, I'm getting myself prepared.

Oh, I like that.

You hired a guy named Jim.

I'm starting a gym.

You're the cameraman.

Really?

Nah.

You wear cameraman in his back.

Watch your fucking bag.

But how did you begin wearing Lululemon?

Was our question.

None of your business.

None of your business.

I've seen you in a lot of stuff.

So are you saying that you're

influenced?

Lululemon.

Are you saying you wasn't influenced?

No, I'm asking you a question to get some honesty so we can have a vulnerable guy-to-guy conversation.

I'm not saying that I influenced you.

That's not what I'm saying.

All right, make sure.

Correct that.

See, you don't know what I'm saying, which is the funny thing.

Because we told Flint, I asked him, How did you start wearing this since he don't want to play along?

No.

And he said, nah, that was all me

and then i said

no it wasn't no it wasn't no i said that that's not how that story starts why do you like to slow walk the dog or slow cook the push because i tried to include you

you got out of my you got out of my play you slow cooking the pull tell me what you think it a you think i'm out there somebody put me on a

what are you thinking once upon a time in like 2011

I was in a mall.

Beautiful year.

With a beautiful young lady from Tampa.

shout out to her she's married so i won't say her name

ish know her

of course shout out

anyway

and we were

we were in the mall shout out to my brother ish and we were in the mall and the young lady said this might have even been 2010 ish and she said

y'all got to run the lulu limit and i said what the is that and she said the whole thing we're doing now athleisure it's like men wear women wear really big things you ever heard of lululemon i said no i never heard of lululemon and she said i to bring you to Lululemon.

She brought me in there and it changed my toilet.

Okay.

And ever since I've been wearing Lululemon.

Okay.

What I'm telling you is, no guy got out of bed.

No black

man.

Okay, okay.

From where we from

got out of bed and said,

I'm wearing cashmere sweatpants.

You can fight back.

And I like them, but no.

From A-Lo.

I like them.

From A-O.

More

athleisure.

And not only that, went out.

Those are workout pants.

These are pants.

More leisure than workouts.

He wanted to feel the wind between his wings.

That's all it is.

A-Lo almost got me.

Yeah.

I'm going to be perfectly honest.

I was in A-Lo.

Oh, we watch baddies up here.

Y'all.

But y'all put me on

with my girl.

She picking out some shit.

And then, you know, you just walk around like it's called Halo.

Halo.

A-L-O.

Oh.

It's not an act.

I'm walking around like, oh, they got some fly shit for dudes in here.

Then I'm like, I'm not going to do it.

I was close.

Yeah, I'm going to keep it talking.

No, because the shit is fly.

It's flossy.

It's just the way that you're shaped.

How I'm shaped, y'all.

Like Humpty Dumpty.

Like Humpty Dumpty.

That's a square.

Your clothes are going to look better as you get more, you know what I mean?

On your journey.

Yeah, yeah,

for sure.

So did you get this because of your journey flip?

Yeah.

Okay, that's the number.

It looks good.

I like it.

Thank you.

I'm fronting.

Listen, my daughter and my wife been.

You shouldn't front.

You should work with me.

My daughter, my daughter.

I am.

No, I'm not fronting about that.

My daughter been talking about going to Lululemon.

I came up here.

I heard y'all niggas talking about it.

So I went and I said, You heard that Little Lemon shit them niggas talking about?

My daughter said, Yes, I've been told you this.

She showed me her cart.

I had this.

How old is your daughter?

16 now.

Yeah, it was a cart.

The princess told me the carts, bro.

And then Linky said the same thing.

So then I went to the mall.

Oh, you spoke to Linky.

Oh, that's what's up.

That's dope.

Spoke to Linky.

That's why.

Shout out to Linky.

You think that's why I'm here?

Right or die, bro.

Still alive.

Holy shit.

What did you just say about my wife's name?

Nothing.

Did you lose your mind?

Are you crazy?

No, no.

Yeah, I spoke to the linky, man.

She cursed me the fuck out yesterday.

I told her I want to move a chef in the house.

Move in?

Yeah.

Is she crazy?

A guy chef?

Yeah, I know.

I told her I'm chef.

For real.

Did you show with a chef?

I did.

Was he cough?

No, her thing was, her thing, no, and I understand what she was saying.

Her thing thing was that when you first mentioned that chef is coming here, that you wanted a chef here,

you didn't say anything about them staying here.

That's what's her thing.

And I told her,

so what?

That's what I told her at the time.

Well, you want a chef to live in your house?

That's weird.

I don't think it's weird.

No, listen, I really want to.

I think it's more expensive.

Yeah, it is expensive, one, too.

Not worth it.

The thing about it,

that's what people were saying, but I want to really work on my health, all jokes aside.

Well, you skipped a lot of steps.

No, he did better.

You only ate.

How many nuggets did you eat?

Four.

Yeah.

Normally he's like seven by now.

By the time you get to the chef living with you, there's a few other steps that maybe we could have taken.

Like what?

Tell me.

Exercise.

Yeah, like stop eating exercises.

If you change your diet, the way that you look at how many meals you'll even need will change.

Yeah.

Understand.

Like, why not try you skip meal prep?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like

nutritional steps.

I got somebody for you, right?

She does this for our, she does this for us.

And I know a few people.

They'll come in your house to cook one day a week.

They'll prep the meals for four or five, six days, however many days you want, give you the three meals.

That way, you don't need somebody to live in your house.

Just have them prep the meals, they put it in your fridge, and you can just heat them up.

You see what I'm saying?

And you have healthy meals, they're portioned out.

You know exactly how many calories is, you know what went into it.

It's all natural, organic.

So that's you'll see it, it'll be five times cheaper to having somebody live in your crib.

Yeah, so I'm just telling you.

And you don't have some random person living in your house.

Exactly.

Unless that's what you want.

You don't be home.

You don't fucking

fuck who's about to live there.

I do.

I do be home.

But that was a conversation.

Watch your fucking mom, nigga.

Hey, yo,

that's my house and my home, nigga.

I'm not scattered like you mentally.

Listen,

at the end of the day, though,

she wanted to have that conversation.

I was being ignorant, just being on some bullshit.

And I was like, man, I'll do what I want.

Got into my do what I want bag.

Not you.

I do what I want.

You can't tell me nothing, nigga.

And nobody better be rude to my chef when they come in.

I started talking shit.

All right, watch.

Good luck with that.

Yeah.

How did that work out, though?

It didn't work out good, but I stand on that now.

Yeah, but the chef ain't moving in.

That's not true.

Well,

he went straight to the close,

and now you're going straight to the livids.

That's my man.

I wish you luck.

I wish you luck, man.

I'm just trying to get to it, yo.

Get a treadmill.

Get a treadmill a little fire.

I'm going to go walking pal.

I'm going to go to Halo and get you a little something.

I'm going to get you.

It's some shit.

I go A-Lo so much, one of the workers had to stop one of the other workers from racially profiling me.

That's how much I've been in.

They must have made a new hire or something.

I came in there on like laundry day, bumming it.

They was looking at me with their little walkie-talkie, whispering them bitches in there.

Checked her.

Hey,

not no, not him.

Leave him alone.

He'd do a lot in here.

I got you.

I'm gonna get you some shit.

You're looking, bro.

I appreciate that, man.

I got you.

What's up with y'all?

What's good?

Y'all good?

Y'all good?

Great, great.

Y'all good?

Good.

I'm glad to hear that.

Mark, you all right?

I'm hanging in there.

Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.

Mike, check, Mike, check.

Audience, how y'all feeling out there?

Good.

Yo, this fucking computer.

I was super kicked.

Yeah, flowing money for it.

Mike Check, one, two, one, two.

Mike Check, one, two, one, two.

What's popping out there?

Big Jersey, big Jersey, what up?

Yeah, you know I want a super free.

Yeah, you know I need a super free, freeze, super free.

Yeah, you know I want a super free, free, super free.

Yeah, you know, we know we know.

I got it for you, freeze.

I got it for you, freeze.

Freeze asked for it, we giving it to him.

Ho ATM, what's going on out there?

Shout out to

Shout out to whoever you might be listening from.

Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

I got Gorge tomorrow.

Holy go.

Holy shit.

I got shit to do.

Only God can judge me.

Who the fuck is you?

They say who the hell

All the dumb boys out there, everybody get money out there.

Never ever.

Shout out to the first and last time, listen.

Shout out to the pajamas.

Kill yourself, get them suicide rocks.

Had the murder bite, be a dear young lady.

Got them yellow, you should've known better.

I paid too much, you niggas played too much.

Let me swear you the talkin'.

I don't say it too much.

You niggas say it too much.

175, you niggas pay it too much.

I definitely fucked some buttons up on this computer somewhere.

What the hell you was doing that ain't wrong?

I have nothing down here.

I wasn't doing nothing.

Shut up.

Yes, sir.

Rest in peace, back on fresh.

Wake it up out there.

What 95 L Matt song?

Came from other road, boy, you know we tax home.

You wanna hold

me on the platform.

Hood, nigga, hot chill, what I snack on.

Hood, nigga, it ain't nothing to get you at home.

Trap, nigga, nigga, sir.

Standin' in the kitchen with my wife.

Whatever the new action I did, it does help with the

phone.

I did hear this outside this weekend.

I heard it outside.

I did.

I did.

I don't wanna hear no pussy.

What did it do?

It was a long intro.

I wanted to play that motherfucker right there.

What'd it do?

Everything.

Everything is supposed to do, at least in New York City.

At least in New York City.

At least in the boogie dam.

At least in the Bronx.

I ain't gonna hold you.

I mean, keep this applause going for the best crew in the universe.

Get these drops out the way.

Who is that?

It's Mark the Brown Hill.

Pussy Lee, Pussy Lee, Pussy Lee.

New Flip.

And Flip is in the building.

What episode is this?

865.

Welcome to episode 865 of the JBP.

Brought to you by Fueled by Power By Prize Pitch.

Prize Pitch Gang.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful really happy to be here host your button here with some really amazing people to my right queens get the money queens flip is here

to his right dr mark lamar hill is in the building to his right big freeze the freeziest of them all mr ticket further himself is here to his right uh omira's finest big parks is in the building poet's here corey is here erickson is here tanner and savon are here by remote last but certainly certainly not least each and every one of you guys are here how are you guys doing how are you guys doing how's everybody feeling What's Bible?

What's Bible?

What's Bobby?

It's fall in New York.

It's fine.

Man, it's feeling good.

It felt good too.

Felt good going outside the little lights, early 60s.

Yeah.

Fucking burning hot early in the morning.

Stupid ass sun.

Enough.

Enough now.

All right, throwing the hoodies back on.

Yeah.

I'm ready for hoodie weather.

Yeah.

Same.

How y'all though?

How was y'all weekend?

Chill, man.

I didn't really do shit.

I had a nice little phone-off weekend.

Chill, went and seen the movie.

Went and saw

another.

Yeah.

What did you think?

i thought it was absolutely fantastic we can talk about it later unless you want to do it now no we can talk about it later um and then i just chill man watch football man

that's it kept it light pretty did the same i was a lot kept it light all weekend watched football i finally saw uh the hip movie i'm sorry yeah we'll talk about that well i'll give my parts later but that's it i ain't do nothing else yeah i ain't do shit man i was in the uh spent most of my time at the auto mechanic

damn i popped like two tires apparently driving on the side of the road new jersey is very dangerous for your car probably pump yeah Or in the middle of the road.

In New Jersey, the Jersey roads, period.

Yeah.

New York roads.

Need time insurance.

Yeah.

That's

mandatory.

Specifically.

Have y'all seen Mark drive?

No, I never have.

No.

I'm a very

driver.

Just dangerous.

Batman.

Oh.

Worse than me?

Yeah.

Because you still obey some of the laws.

He don't give a fuck.

Oh, yeah.

I'm a great driver.

He don't care.

Mark don't give a fuck.

Oh, yeah.

If my wife ain't in the car, especially because I'm usually going to get my son or something like that.

Like when I leave here, oh, all rules are off, man.

I see Waves as like a personal challenge.

So if it says like an hour and 20, I try to get there in an hour.

I do the side of the road.

I merge on the other side.

I make the U-turn in the middle of the highway.

I do whatever I can to shave five, six minutes off at a time.

But it's fucking up my tires.

And I got pulled over this week.

Yeah, but I can see if I didn't even get pulled over doing none of that shit.

I got pulled over doing,

they said illegal use of the cell phone and doing 45 in the school zone.

I knew that was going to happen after you assigned your core shit.

They just fucking on the radar.

I figured the New Jersey police would have

something to say about that one.

They're listening, you know.

Anyway,

I'm glad to see everybody made it here.

All right.

Y'all are looking good.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Smelling good.

We are.

A lot of things need our attention.

How was y'all weekend?

Y'all didn't know?

Yeah, we care about y'all, too.

I did absolutely nothing.

That's why.

That's fine.

I was resting my foot.

My foot was fucked up.

Oh, that joint swole crazy last year.

Did you get it looked at?

It was really, really bad.

Yeah, I looked at it.

Did you go to the doctor?

I looked at it.

No, nigga.

I didn't go to the doctor.

I'm black.

I looked at it.

You're not breaking.

I walked to the kitchen, butt-ass.

You don't learn to eat it.

It was nippy.

And you're not breaking generational quick.

Walking to the fridge, butt ass, when it's nippy in your house and your foot don't work is just funny.

I was in there dragging, dragging his foot

on the sleep.

Somebody was taping my shit.

I know they were.

Anyway.

Is the foot better?

It looks less swollen.

Yeah, no, it's a lot better.

I got a good ice pack.

I iced it all weekend.

Oh, good.

Okay.

I don't think anything is really damaged in there.

So

I'm all right.

I'm all right thank God.

But that's what I did.

I missed my good brother Nodge was having the kickball joint down the street.

I missed that shout out to Nodge and everybody that was at a kickball tournament.

But that was it.

That was it.

I want to almost start skipping that part of the pod.

More than likely, I didn't do anything.

Yeah, you on our side now.

More than likely.

That's what normally would our shit be.

We ain't do nothing.

Yeah, so when I did try to step out the other night and my girl said something, I put my foot down.

Shut up.

Which foot, though?

Shut up.

The good foot.

I put my good foot down.

Shut up.

I've been out for five months.

It's over.

I'm going out.

Five months.

Five months.

No, I'm lying.

No, no, I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In Joe time, that's like a week.

I said over a month.

She's going to pull up the receiver.

Nah, it was just two years.

Just two, three weeks ago.

You a psycho bitch.

Anyway.

Where do y'all want to start?

A lot of things need our focus and attention.

Let's start with Bad Bunny.

Let's go, Parks.

Bad Bunny.

Yeah, look at Parks.

Now, can we get through this conversation without y'all just saying you're gay?

It depends on how hard you go for.

Without saying you're gay or without saying I'm gay.

Me.

Okay.

That's usually how the bad bunny conversations go up here.

Really?

Yes.

I've been thinking that we're mad supportive of your bad bunny fanfare.

Do we fuck with that?

A little bit, but we don't.

It usually, the conversation gets halted very quickly with just, oh, you're a little gay.

Well, that's two things to be true.

I might be a a little gay.

I would learn the gay jokes, but

if you want to,

we should like.

If you're a little gay, I don't think it's because of your band Bunny Van Ver.

I agree.

I agree 100%.

All right, we will not call you gay during the segment.

Oh, yeah, well, wait.

I don't make any commitments just yet.

On our hearts, you're going to go.

How did you feel?

Where were you when the news broke?

I was at the movie theater and I didn't have a phone, so I got home and I saw, I say congratulations.

I was like, I don't know what that means, but

that's why you say shit.

I'm like, damn, he didn't even acknowledge it.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't see it until many hours later, and I was confused because I didn't go on Twitter or anything.

So I was just like, oh, shit.

Okay.

Bad bunny's the headline in the Super Bowl.

I think it's fucking amazing, personally.

He's

one of the biggest artists in the world.

The NFL is clearly trying to expand to a global audience, particularly in Spanish-speaking countries.

Why would they not pick the biggest artist to represent that?

This is amazing.

And it's going to be all in Spanish.

From what I'm hearing.

Yeah, I'm sure.

What was it going to be in Mark?

Yeah, well, sometimes...

they'll do like two English songs or to have like a um or to have another artist come out to do a couple English songs so that the Americans feel good.

Got it, got it.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, you think he's not bringing anybody out?

That's what I'm saying.

I think it's going to be an entirely, what I've heard so far is it's going to be an entirely Spanish-speaking person.

You ain't got a bad bunny insider.

No, I got a Super Bowl insider.

Oh, shit.

Recall those.

Recall those.

Talk that shit.

Okay.

Okay.

Boy, I think that would make people, I think that would excite people.

Safoon.

Saudi.

There's some people who aren't happy about it.

Wait, before we get there, is everyone in the room happy about this?

I am very happy.

I'm static about it.

I don't care about it.

I don't care.

I don't listen to Bad Bunny.

Yeah, I don't listen.

You should try.

This is one of those where there's been plenty of Smooth halftimes in the past where I'm like, oh, that's just not for me.

Cool.

Now I go do something else.

It's 15 minutes.

I'm good.

It ain't the end of the world.

I'm conflicted.

You like Bad Bunny, though.

Let me guess.

FBA came out.

I absolutely

losing out.

Let me guess.

And I need some slaves on this halftime show.

You know, he's pro-black.

Yeah, I know.

You know, he's.

I want Titan on this halftime shoes.

He's not talking at 1876, man.

Mr.

Button, one of the top buttons.

No, nigga.

My granddaddy built this stadium.

I need some goddamn representation.

Let's go shit.

Yeah, I'm a white man.

Bad bunny might be black.

Well, at least before he got that jaw surgery.

Anyway,

shout out to Bad Bunny.

I'm a little conflicted here, and I'm going to try to, I'm going to keep my conflictions brief because I support Bad Buddy.

I want to see him do this.

I think he's going to kill.

I think he's got the songs, the records.

Yep, he does.

Some of them girls that dubbed y'all Super Bowl, Super Bowl party invite, this year they'll come.

They're coming.

Oh, no, they'll be there.

Yes, they will.

This is going to be a very female-friendly Super Bowl.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to have another.

This is like a step under Brianna Super Bowl.

Oh, me too.

For them, I'm talking about.

I don't think it's a step under.

Nah.

In terms of what it does to the women in your living room.

Like, I threw Super Bowl Party when Rihanna was there.

All of us was just there watching Rihanna.

But that's because

in her defense, you know, Rihanna was pregnant.

She didn't really Rihanna that.

That's the difference, I think.

Definitely.

Because today, this year, it might have a little more impact than Rihanna did that particular year.

And just because of the circumstances that Rihanna was in.

They left America in droves to go to Puerto Rico to watch this dude.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I know some people that went multiple times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

International.

I mean, I don't know if any of y'all saw the big Apple Music.

Fuerza Arrejida had a concert.

Y'all probably didn't see it.

But Fuerza Arrejida is a really big group.

They're from California, but

they're Mexican origin, Mexican, like in roots.

And they do like...

They filled up Mexico Stadium, 65,000 people.

And a lot of people went from Southern California, Northern California, to Mexico City this past weekend, and it was live on Apple Music.

The shit was crazy.

That's what this is going to be like times 10, I think.

Also, not for nothing, we didn't talk about it, but the Bad Bunny concert series in Puerto Rico, there is a live stream that they did two weeks ago in Apple on Amazon Prime.

Yep.

And it's phenomenal.

So if you want to get some insight of what this might look like.

I saw about an hour of that.

It really was phenomenal.

Because now when I go to my dad's house, that had to be a Saturday night.

It was a Saturday.

Dropping the kid off to the street.

Anyway, anytime I go to my dad's house and Bad Bunny is around, actually, since they've been to the Nick game, I can't stop hearing about Bad Bunny from my dad's house.

And that's what I'm saying about like when I gave my dad those Nick tickets, the Joe button seats, and Bad Bunny was seated right in front of him.

I know his wife.

Yeah, yeah.

His wife got anxiety and will be loud and will have no celebrity etiquette.

And he was just an absolute sweetheart to my dad and his wife.

Like he was great to them, took all of the pictures, signed all of the autographs.

That's nice.

Like whatever image you had, whatever image I had from him taking the phone and throwing it, like, it's out the window.

That you can't say anything about Bad Bunny to me now.

The music is good, and he seems to be a really great person.

A dope person.

So, I don't, I think this is super fly.

Yeah, I also

thought that there were some people that I would have loved to see before him.

Who?

No.

Tell us who.

It's not important.

I'm not stepping on Bad Bunny's moment.

It don't matter.

Those people don't matter.

But how do?

But I asked who because they're working.

Because you're a messy bitch.

No, no, no.

Because you're a messy bitch.

I know why you're at it.

Pot kettle.

No.

I know why you're a bit.

I ain't saying that.

You say it.

Peace of the pod.

I'm not saying that.

Put your balls on the table.

There were certain people that were asked and they declined it as well.

Like, he wasn't the number one.

There was other people that they asked.

Like who?

Adele, Taylor Swift.

Oh, no.

Taylor Swift declined?

Yes.

I can see that.

Oh, yes, please.

Thank God.

Yeah, we're.

Thank God.

Although I think Schufrada.

The people I'm talking about are black.

Yeah, look, there you go.

There you go.

I'm talking about black people.

We know.

Who are you you talking about then?

You're a messy bitch.

No, I'm not.

I'm just trying to...

I said some names.

You know me long enough to know some of the people I'm thinking about.

He's not getting it.

Who?

He's not getting it.

I wasn't talking about Chris.

Okay.

Come on.

And I wouldn't.

I put that.

I would put that.

Let's not step on Bad Bunny's moment.

I don't want to do that.

Bad Bunny is going to...

Listen, if you think you're on the fence about it, I think he wins you over.

For sure.

He wins you over.

If you're going to watch him live, he's going to win you over.

They put a lot of money in that Amazon

set and the smoke and dancers.

That's how it looked in the arena, by the way.

Yeah.

Like, that show was phenomenal being there in person, even from my nosebleed section.

It was an accurate representation of how the concert went.

So, he performs.

Like, it wasn't no backup singers or backup tracks.

He was out there singing and rapping with live instrumentation.

He's a phenomenal performer, and the production value is super high.

This is going to be a...

Great performance.

I can't see the other thing.

And I love the, I'm sorry, Freeze.

And I love the fact that, you know, he put out the message that I'm not performing in America in fear that ICE may come get some of my fans, and I'm not supporting that.

So for him to be performing in America this way, like it's fine.

I saw a lot of people fighting back on that, and I don't think that they understand what that means.

A bad bunny concert at an arena, yes, Ice will be there.

There will be people in danger.

Bad bunny performing at the Super Bowl

in front of billionaires and very rich people is probably not going to bring up that many ICE people putting people in danger.

And ICE is not raiding.

Ice is They're not rating a stadium at the Super Bowl.

The people that's going to the Super Bowl are going, don't matter who the halftime performer is.

Y'all got the interview.

The NFL spoke to ICE, y'all.

They did.

The NFL spoke to ICE.

They got the paperwork signed.

Hey, y'all can't come in here.

Don't fuck up our shit.

Yeah.

This is bigger than you.

But what I was saying about Bad Bunny is, I don't understand any of that.

Bad Bonnie.

But that's the thing about just good music, though.

You don't, good music is just good music.

Right.

I've heard you play certain records, and I'm like, oh, this this shit fly.

I don't know a word he's saying.

Right.

This shit just sounds good.

And I seen what it do when they hear it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

see, I know that you believe that.

So I don't get your Afro beats take.

Thank you.

Like I agree with you.

Right.

But again, I just don't like the Afro.

We ain't got to go back to Afrobeat.

We're not.

We're not.

We're not.

It just does.

Bad bunny shit sounds good to me.

And Afrobeat.

When I hear that, it don't.

That's all.

It just doesn't.

And not for nothing.

If anybody ever takes the time, and maybe you will, maybe you won't.

And I I think Apple Music makes it easy now with, I think they have translations.

If you look at his lyrics, especially with this album in particular, he's very,

there's a lot of love songs and just regular for the host records, but there's also a lot of records with political meanings and implications, or cultural meanings and implications to Puerto Ricans particularly.

That's dope.

So the success he's had this year with that album in particular, critically and commercially, this is the year to do it.

And with his, the show you went to with that residency, they said he bought what, like, 700 something?

Three-quarters of a billion dollars to his million dollars to his

hometown yeah that's crazy

if it was a state would be the poorest state in the country right

so you bring three 750 million dollar yeah by yourself yo that's

amazing it's amazing but shout out to him i i don't think there's anybody taylor swift would probably be the only person who i think you could make a good argument for this year who would be at that level and you telling me that she declined kind of makes sense to me because she has an album coming out i think so album coming out by the way she was certified today the first female artist to hit 100 million RIAA.

So again, that makes sense.

But when you look at who's streaming the highest, who's getting, I mean, Mad Bunny is number two.

Mad Bunny's number two.

That's what I'm saying.

Ain't nobody else to compete.

I was a little frustrated with some of the people online who were saying

some pretty ignorant things.

I don't want to get into all of it, but just to say, like, they were trying to almost discredit him.

And because they didn't have a good argument for, instead of just saying you don't want him doing it, they try to say, well, we needed a bigger artist.

There is no bigger artist.

There is no more popular artist.

There is no more streaming artist that was going to be in this mix.

People just live in their bubbles.

If I don't know it, it ain't popular.

That's all it is.

A lot of times, I don't know nothing.

I saw all the time, yo, name five bad bunny records.

Well, I don't have to.

Right.

To know what he's doing.

We know that.

I can't name one.

And I still know what he's doing.

Right.

Yeah.

Your artists that you could name five, 10, 15, 20 records can't go sell out 30.

How many shows he did?

30 something.

30 something shows.

Yeah.

they can't do it in the same place they can't do it so where's the super bowl at

san francisco san francisco yeah yeah the eagles gonna be

whoever they got puerto ricans they got puerto ricas out there it's a strong latin community maybe not puerto ricas

they'll be there

money gonna bring all the latinos it ain't gotta be puerto rico be mexicans dominicans guat guatemalans everybody coming outside everybody who speaks spanish gonna be in that motherfucker

it's gonna

it's gonna be great it's gonna be great i mean the part the parties in the area is gonna be what?

That's where it's at.

Fuck the Super Bowl.

Right.

Catch one of them.

Can't miss.

Well, congratulations, Sebastian Bunny.

Congratulations.

Absolutely.

We'll be watching it, if not there.

So,

Joe.

You think about going?

Every year we think about going.

Yeah.

For you, does it depend on who's playing?

Yes.

Okay.

For sure.

Assuming it's the Eagles playing against somebody from the AFC,

does that make you do it?

No.

Wow.

What teams would make you do it?

Yeah.

I know the Giants, but move that.

But what other teams would make you do it?

You know what?

It's team-based, but it's momentum-based.

It's momentum-based.

Like, the Eagles went, Saquon had an

all-career year.

The momentum wasn't there for me.

I'm talking about like

if Detroit would have made it, if the Ravens would have made it, somebody that hasn't been there, fan base is nuts,

willing to travel, the fan base parties.

Like if Buffalo.

If Buffalo, Detroit would have had a lot of bad.

Yeah, that would be crazy.

Buffalo, Detroit, yeah.

Buffalo would make that a good time.

Buffalo fans would make that a good time for people.

They will put on an amazing show, an amazing game.

I loved what they did when Hamlin was fucked up over there.

Buffalo fans, I'm just saying it depends on the team.

It depends on the team.

That makes sense.

Got it.

I don't have that with the Eagles.

I don't have that with some of the more obnoxious fan bases.

So you wouldn't go for the Giants?

Huh?

Probably not.

Okay, good.

That's my team.

I would want to see it on TV.

Right.

Even though

I want to.

Oh, that's interesting.

If it's my team, I want to see it on TV.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

If the Dolphins made the playoffs, or the Super Bowl, not the playoffs.

Purdy and Slip.

I don't know if I would want to see that in person.

Yeah,

I want them to use all of them million and billion dollar cameras, all of those angles, the commentators.

I want to hear them.

I'm almost like that with the games, too.

I went to the, I think it was the AFC championship game that the Steelers played the Jets years ago.

Ain't nothing like being in there when your team is in that game.

And that wasn't even the Super Bowl.

But that energy being in there, you can't match that shit.

I would love to go.

If my team is in the Super Bowl, I want to see that one day.

I don't care.

I would have to get really good.

I gave my dad the amazing Yankee World Series tickets that we had.

Like, I'm just not the type that wants to be in that crowd of people.

I wanted to see it once.

I saw the Phillies win this World Series in 08.

I loved it.

But I could live without seeing it.

You know what I mean?

I don't need to be there.

And it's also different being in your hometown when you win a championship versus the Super Bowl where you're in another city and you're part of a section of people.

You know what I mean?

It's a different vibe.

Half of whom are probably a fan of neither team.

Exactly.

Yeah, like Philly did it already.

That one where Kevin Hart was trying to get on the thing and they shoved him away.

That was the time to be there.

Right.

That's what I'm saying.

And now we won another one since then.

I'm kind of good.

Like, it's cool.

See, as a Steeler fan, we everywhere.

Yeah, y'all got a big ass.

So, if I don't care where that Super Bowl is, if Pittsburgh is air, that's going to be a Pittsburgh home game.

That's true.

It will feel like we in fucking.

Actually, sure.

Fortunately, you won't have to worry about that for a while.

Yeah, it's fine.

I was thinking about you on Sunday.

What's that name?

And I was a little frustrated with you.

Uh-oh.

What a day.

You got beef already.

It's not beef.

It's just,

Sunday's the day that I listen to new music.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

And I had a list of new music to listen to.

But I put at the top of the list for you, the new Jeezy album.

Okay.

Still snowing.

Jeezy and Drama Mixer.

Still snowing.

That's new.

DJ Drama.

I put it on.

And an hour later,

I feel like you or Jeezy owes me $9.99.

Why?

Let me hear.

It was.

Actually.

Let me preface this.

Jeezy's a giant to me.

Jeezy's a legend to me.

And I like almost every, I like every G-Z project before this one.

Okay.

So I was expecting the same thing.

I just, I just couldn't.

There's one or two tracks I could live with.

But overall, no.

Overall, for me,

it was not what I wanted from Jeezy.

And I understand that.

Y'all know I talked to y'all about this.

When I first had the album, I came in and was like, yo.

Let me prep y'all now.

No, I wasn't there that day.

I always played it for me.

I was here.

You should have texted me.

I'll let y'all know.

I was like, yo,

this ain't...

I was surprised.

And y'all know how I am when it comes to GZ music.

I was super surprised.

I'm like, what are you doing?

Should I give a little

bit?

Give a little bit.

Ain't you funny as fuck?

Any particular track I should start with?

Wait, hold on, Paul.

When it comes to the niggas you like, look, look at, yeah, yeah, walk easy.

Wait, the other thing you should track.

Thank you, Flippin'.

Right now, I'm walking alone right now.

Don't go.

I prepared y'all, nigga.

What do you think about the album, nigga?

Well, he said he wanted to get into it, but but I'm going to get to that.

I have thoughts, and I don't hold my

punches when it comes to G.

Okay, well, well, let's start with the first one.

Let's start right with the intro.

Yeah, yeah, starting with the intros or something.

Shut up, drama.

Shout out to drama.

Philly's finest.

Shout out to Cannon.

Cannon.

The guys.

Lake, what up?

Okay.

As soon as that comes on, the tempo is just like, this does not feel like the right tempo for GCS.

Well, let me tell you, as soon as I pressed play, I said, what the fuck is this?

It went to track two.

Okay.

By the time I got to treason, which I think is track three, which I love, but I'm like, oh, I don't know what he's doing.

In terms of the

what is this?

The content or the or the or the music?

The music.

Okay.

I'm not used to this.

So when I hear Jeezy, I'm thinking club banger,

trap music, you know, shit like that.

I told y'all, to me, it felt like

50 Cents mixtape, sincerely yours, Southside, where he rapped over all the cookout beats.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But But not as good.

This seems like a direct

conflict with the snow brand.

And I hated the name.

Like, this is not snow music.

This is summer music.

And at the timing of dropping it in October or whatever, late September.

He dropped it on his birthday, so I'll give you that.

Okay.

You dropped it.

You did a project.

I know a couple artists drop on their birthdays, whatever.

But I'll get you.

The snow and shit, along with dramas, presents.

This gives you a...

If this drops.

You have an expectation.

If this drops Memorial Day weekend, it makes all the sense in the world to me.

Literally what I said.

Right.

Or even July 4th weekend.

This is a summertime album.

It's dropping too late.

I hated this on.

Snow in the summer or something.

You know what I mean?

Right.

You could make a little pun song.

I exactly hated this on my first listen.

Me and you talked.

Yeah, I didn't have a second listen.

And I'm sitting here like, Parks, listen to this bullshit.

Listen.

It took him a long time.

I don't want to hear this 14 songs for me to get to work.

I was mad.

Yeah, that Tony.

Was it Tony Brexit?

It was one of Joe's albums.

That's the worst record.

I was like, I can't even.

It was unlistenable.

Play that one.

What's it called?

Another sad song.

There you go.

Okay.

I text DJ Drama.

Make this song.

What the hell?

I was mad already.

I always thought somebody should rap over this, though.

Well, not this.

I always thought it.

If Russ came on right now,

Russ's gonna do it differently.

Very pockish.

Let me hear.

Let me hear.

That sounds very much like a Tupac inspired record.

Which he is.

Tupac is GC's favorite rapper.

Okay.

So I get the key.

And the inspiration is in there.

I get it.

I hated this song.

Hate it.

Hate it.

Hate it.

Still hate.

All right.

Let us talk and clown you.

Enough of you now.

We're trying to clown you.

Y'all want me to sit?

No, he's mad that I'm not.

I hate this shit.

We want to clown you.

And you won't let us

because you're making sense.

We don't want to hear you understand.

No, because y'all thought I was going to come in here.

I want you to ride for this album so we can tell you that shit.

No, I don't.

I'm doing my gameplay.

You ain't real comedy.

When music is bad, I'm going to say it's bad.

When music is good, I'm going to say it's good.

My favorite artists in the world can put out some bad shit.

All right, but now y'all.

I can't say that to you.

It ain't the same you saying.

It ain't the funny thing.

It's like you're trying to get ahead of the.

Don't be into the cookout.

Your favorite artist dropped some bullshit.

It's different when we say it.

Okay.

And listen, the funny shit.

Because I still have more, but I'm going to let y'all get your shit off.

Ice, we're not doing 90 minutes on you.

All right, well, let me finish then, Rufus.

Go ahead, go ahead.

Then he posted that

D Nice and him was doing it on an Instagram live.

I like that.

In the summer.

Cool.

We know what D.

Nice does when he gets busy.

Shout out to D.

Nice.

Shout out to D Nice.

I said, let me watch the stream.

What D Nice did playing the originals, like, you know, he gets into his cookout groove bag, mixing it in with the Jeezy records.

I got a different appreciation for the album now.

Ice, shut up now.

You got to shut up.

Now y'all can cook.

Now y'all can cook.

Our parts don't.

If his mic is live muted, he's finished.

Ace, do you hear?

Do y'all hear the whole shit with the new shit?

This is the shit.

Yo, and then D Nice had an Insta Live, and I seen it.

It gave me a new appreciation for records that been out since the 50s.

Yo, all of those classic joints that came out in the 50s.

Now the G Lights did not install.

That's just so many lights like when I bring up Bad Bunny.

What the fuck is he talking about?

Oh my God.

I never heard that.

He keeps trying to not let us go.

Four non-blogs.

Shut your ass up, nigga.

And Jeezy and Lake is my man's, too.

Shout out to Jeezy.

My problem with the project, I'm going to be serious now, but I don't know why I used to get too mad.

Yeah, man.

My problem with this project is

the records that he's doing this over.

Like, if you have a love of bands

and what they did in that time.

They stiffened them up.

These you just didn't need to do this on.

Like, we listened to those records to hear the instruments.

The groove.

Yeah, the groove and the bop.

Yeah.

Much different from what 50 did that Freeze brought up.

50 picked records.

that Bill Withers a Lovely Day.

Shits that you can hear a rap cadence on.

I remember that.

I don't want to hear no rapping over Nights Over Egypt.

I don't.

Yeah.

I don't want to hear rapping over the intro joint.

And I love Jeezy, but I don't want to hear.

I love Jeezy too.

Not the right time, not the right vibe.

The tempo.

Long tempo.

Yeah, slow that shit down.

He did.

He got towards the end.

He got the shit.

No, not.

It's hard to make it to the end.

What's going on?

What number's the hot rap?

What number's the hot What number?

Look at Freeze, yo.

What number?

Tell us a number.

Niggas love their favorite rappers.

Just tell us a number.

Niggas do love their favorite rappers.

Freeze, just give us a support.

There's a couple of joints out there.

And it's a couple up there.

I'm not saying the entire shit is terrible.

Treason is good.

Hustler's Paradise is good.

A little bit of treason.

If you don't know what that is,

the project ain't great enough to even get 55 minutes of this shit.

It's a couple shits.

That's all right.

Oh, y'all like the man?

I do like this.

I think that proves the point about what happens when you slow it down.

He had a tempo.

Yeah.

He picked some hooks.

It's still 100.

I mean, just with him.

100 and shit.

Yeah, I'm with you.

I'm done.

Jeezy, don't trick us again with the drama and the snowing outside.

That was the bad.

That was the bad part.

This is not snowy music.

And the reason why I can't.

Or cocaine.

Well, I guess it could be cocaine.

Tap them.

Tap him.

Yo, both of y'all, look at me.

The reason why I can't get too mad at him, though, is because Jeezy's over 40 and I want to put out grown music.

I'm not still in the club.

I'm not sure if I'm going to be told you.

What is your favorite rapper?

I still said the project ain't good.

But you be too hard on the field.

I tell the field the project ain't good.

Yeah, but the way I'm going to be able to do that.

I'm not as invested to the field.

I'm invested to my favorite.

But the way you're doing this, you my man, so I ain't going to highlight.

No, come on have a conversation that's what we need to talk no we don't need to talk about this no i want to give that because i want to talk about you said me the way i'm harder give the field a harder time than you're doing now and i don't even think that's i don't even think that's the real conversation and you don't give runway for mistakes either the real conversation is how much love is it okay to have for your favorite rappers okay

i want to take it off freeze freeze is just an example of it and it's funny because he's sitting in front of us but

at some point it gets hard when your favorite rapper drops some.

It's actually, I feel like it's harder when your favorite rapper drops mid, like real mid, not the internet mid.

Like, the internet says mid to everything.

That's not good.

There's actual mids in the world.

That's true.

It's harder doing a mid review for your favorite rapper than a trash review,

in my opinion.

Whether mid or Dylan hot fire, in your 40s, I don't know if it's okay to love your favorite rappers or show it at least.

Nigga, please.

You can't show it.

What age do get to you have to slow down?

Ain't no age.

It is a look at them.

I'm saying, with anything, with my favorite,

I'm still an AI fan.

With my favorites, they're gonna be my favorite sample.

I know, but how you showcase it, right?

Like, fucking the Billy Joel concert today, the last one in Madison Square Garden.

All the Billy Joe fans came out, they the same age, they grew up with the story, but in the audience, you see them, they like,

yeah,

who's dead for that?

They just mouthing the words, It just looks different.

Weekend Beast.

He's been missing all the time.

I'm too old, nigga.

Exactly.

So, yes, I'm not, but that's why I like the fact that he's not.

I don't be in the clubs, so I don't want to hear the club music from him.

That's all I'm saying.

Oh, that's fair.

That's what I'm giving him at least a pass for trying to make age-appropriate music.

I got it.

I can dig that.

That's all.

I can do that.

If it ain't good, it still ain't good.

This is no, there's no songs off of this that I'm putting on my GZ playlist.

Got it.

Not one.

I do do like him making age-appropriate music.

Yeah.

There's something to that.

Whether

you swing in the mist, maybe put it on the side.

Yeah, even if it don't work, the fact that you tried that, you went, I'm not in the streets no more, so I'm not making trap music like that.

But a reminisce.

Try something else.

Yeah, you can reminisce.

Reminisce about when you sold a brick or some shit.

Well, he still sprinkles some of the lines in there, but I want to do something different that my age group could understand and respect these beats, these records, these samples, which is why I said the D-Nice shit was really dope.

Not saying I got appreciation for the old songs.

I knew the old songs, but it made me like these songs a little bit better hearing them right after the older, the original record.

My mom's is my mom's.

I'm gonna closing, please.

I'm gonna close.

My mom's is a D-Nice fan.

My mom's is a D-Nice fan.

So she watched the live.

I don't even, that's a whole other conversation about my mother being on social media that I don't know about.

But

she hit me and was like, don't you like Jeezy?

I said, yeah.

She's like, yo, some of those new songs that he was playing.

are kind of okay.

I was like,

all right, mom.

If it's mama proof, then I was like, all right, mom.

I didn't make that.

Make the noise to freeze.

We got to freeze.

Shout out to Mama Ice.

Yeah, you did it, big dog.

All right.

I'm clapping up.

Nigga, you're the super cake ball, nigga.

What's the topic?

We got some time.

We're 47.

Don't do that.

Justice Lee.

You know, we had another topic first, right?

We got another topic right now, too.

All right, let's get to another topic.

Let's see.

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else?

All things Young Thug.

Let's keep it in Atlanta.

Let's do it.

Let's do it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's keep it in Atlanta.

Young Thug had something to say about therapy.

Again, I wish this was here.

Why?

Because you know, it's just therapy views.

Oh, okay.

I would have loved to hear from him on this Young Thug topic.

And we'll get to that in a second, but

I want to do a proper review of the Young Thug project.

Oh, please.

Because I was home.

I turned the shit on on my Sonos, took it off the phone.

I let it play.

It's a really good album.

Yes, it is.

Well, I wouldn't know about really good albums.

It's a good album.

It's a good album.

It's a good album.

It's better than our review suggested last week.

It's better than all the initial Everyone Online.

Hold on.

Trashing it and thrashing it.

He called you niggas?

No, it's just not that bad.

Nah, you know what it is?

It's not bad.

We got a chance to really listen to it.

That's not bad at all.

Well, part of it is the album was.

Again, it's like.

The sequencing, bro.

The sequence is terrible, but it's not.

there's two issues.

One is the sequencing, and two, just the top of the album isn't that strong.

And so we that is easily, not to cut you off,

one of the worst starts to an album I've ever heard.

I don't know what he was doing.

I don't, it ruined my first listening experience.

Yeah.

And that experience for me is normally a bop listen.

I'm listening for bops.

Right.

And I didn't hear too many of those.

One and two.

Old thug used to be able to come on when I was feeling happy.

Like when I was in a great, joyous mood.

Some of the content on here, most of the content on here is really down.

It's heavy, yeah.

It's really down.

But once you get past how horribly sequenced this project is, I had to tip my hat to the young man.

It was hard to get.

Nobody from Atlanta called me.

I ain't speak to me.

This is just listening to music.

Listen, Ninja, not for me.

I'm going to just go through it.

But combined with the album album cover, combined with what he did with making all of

the features on the album, all of his friends look like that, it makes it hard.

If this is what you're starting, it sets a, oh, nah, I don't even know what you on this album.

I'm off of it.

You can get somebody off of it just by all of that.

True.

Yuck, yuck, Ken Carson, track two.

Not for me.

Same, yeah.

Yeah.

On the news, as much as I love that Cardi B verse, I don't think the song is so much direct.

Write home of Alexander.

I like that one.

I like that right now.

It's cool.

I like that one.

Well, hearing that third off of one and two being some bullshit, it didn't make me, it didn't make me

fucking told you, more of the same for me.

Whoop-de-doo, I understood what he was doing.

I won't listen to it anymore.

And at that point, the album changes for me.

Blaming Jesus is sick.

Last part I wanted to come in here and say, whatever the record that is after Whoop Dee Doo is fire.

Actually, I'm playing that.

Yeah, I'll play it for you.

Yeah, you can play that.

Blaming Jesus, I think, is sick.

Sad Spider, I think it's sick.

And at this point, now, oh, all right, I see what's going on.

You want some blaming Jesus?

Give me some blaming Jesus.

See, his melodic thug is always better for thug for me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Start off.

The bob I'm looking for from Grandma.

You tired of me, okay?

Go to next song.

Go to the next song.

Go to the next song.

Go to the next song.

Go to the next song.

Because when he hit the sequence, sequencing sequencing right, it hit.

These two songs, they should be together.

Okay.

I love this song.

This is Fire.

Sad Spider.

Anyway, turn it off.

I ain't trying to play all of these records.

Sad Spider is dope.

The TI record is dope.

I love that record.

Into the features.

I like the...

I'm not all the way mad at the TI record.

I like the Mariah the Scientist record.

I'm So Dope.

I don't remember that one.

What's I'm So Dope?

Play I'm So Dope.

I can't hear this shit.

Go.

Turn me up a little bit, bro.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

If Dog is in this melodic bag, it's going to work.

Nine times out of ten.

Yeah, yeah.

See, but for me, he goes on a run right here.

I'm So Dope into Pardon My Back.

I'm never listening to this sexy red record that's track 13.

Into the Lucci record, into the 21 record.

record that lucha record is amazing

yeah what up jesus right that record the second half of this album with the exception for me of revenge

uh and like i said that mariah the scientist joint i think this was no matter how you felt about the music this was the right album for him to drop coming out of jail i changed my entire stance After listening to it, listening to him, listening to what was heavy on his heart, listening to just,

it needed to be like this.

My first listen, I thought, all right,

his tone, he depressed.

I ain't got time for it.

After sitting with it, I'm like, oh, you had to do this.

You had to get it out.

This was a clonic.

You had to get it out.

Yeah,

this was for the soul.

And again, even bigger than that, the features, like these brothers being here for him, like, pass the music.

Just these brothers being here for him while he's going through all this shit easily sounds like the last few years have been the roughest few years of his life.

Like, it was very autobiographic for me.

Very autobiographic.

Really good project.

I didn't go back to reanalyze it a ton.

I skimmed through it one more time.

I still don't think it's great, but there is some shit on here.

I said that in the last spot, dog.

There's some shit on here.

Yeah,

it's more shit than I thought on here.

I'll say that.

Overall, it's a good project, yo.

It ain't the best, but it ain't terrible.

It ain't terrible.

I could see how you would be sick to your stomach over the gunner-thug combination never coming back again.

Like, if you listen to what Gunn is doing on his projects and with this element that Thug is doing, like, I could see how it's a sad day for a lot of the Atlanta niggas.

I do.

Fans lost.

On one side.

Fans lost.

On one side, it's a sad day.

Because on the other side for Atlanta niggas, again, him and Lucy doing records together.

They got a record together on Lucci's album, which is really, really.

Lucy's album is really good.

And I was about to choke you.

Talk about that.

Already Legend, right?

Yeah.

That's his album.

You know, they were in the club together.

So on one side, the Atlanta niggas at least seeing some level of unity coming back because them two had the city on fire, apparently.

So that is a good thing.

That's dope.

Got to salute that.

And you get to realize that a lot of people.

It's dope, but I don't like that.

You don't like it.

Wait, hold on.

I mean, I do, but I don't.

Let me hear.

Give me a second.

I think that Thug wants to talk to Gunner.

I think that everything about his identity, his network, and his friend group will change if he does.

I feel like he's trapped into his own ideologies that he's having to change a heart on.

But don't know how to say it.

His whole life will change.

So now you're kind of stuck there.

You're stuck.

You made this position.

You drew the line.

And then you

got to stand there.

That don't feel good.

And what it also looks like to me, because Thug did an interview on a pivot, and he was talking about how I still love Gunner.

Gunner still loves me.

But I think at this point, we just got to go our separate ways.

And when I saw that I had made a joke like yo the gunner has been went his separate way, but

forgiving Lucci and not Gunner on on civilian terms is crazy

That's absolutely nuts.

If you can do one you can do the other

That's where I disconnect a little bit from but we like street niggas So it could be something different.

I'm not talking streets I'm talking hip-hop now.

I'm talking human shit now.

I'm mind my business on the street Yeah, but the street shit stop it carries more to some of that shit.

Some of these niggas, bro.

Oh, no, a lot of that shit.

Some of that shit stupid.

But we can say that.

and i'm saying it and i'm and i'm saying it forgiveness my god is a forgiving god

if you've shown the ability to forgive on run one front that means you possess the ability to forgive true but we're speaking i know we're speaking as i'm all he ain't never gonna do it to wing out of the way because there's certain shit that you can't forgive and that's their core values and they stand in that and he's well within his right have a blast but

Have a blast.

You flip where you are.

You want to tell me that?

Yeah, flip my back.

No, no, no.

It's okay.

No, what I'm saying is that I disagree with you, but I understand what you're saying.

You said it already, though.

I feel like the message is, the messengers and the message is bigger, a bigger statement for Atlanta.

Those two coming together.

A lot of people lost their lives.

It's a lot of situations that happened behind those two.

So showing that type of bond, you know,

it paves the way for a lot of people to rectify things.

And I want to say, right?

Like, I understand what y'all are saying.

I know plenty of street niggas that have a real healthy respect for people that have tried to kill them.

Yes, me too.

You're right.

Like, I know that exists.

So I'm not trying to slight that.

I just think we should mirror the ability, and they don't think that.

Yeah, they don't.

They don't think that.

And I understand that.

That's why I be in my house.

That's why I stayed.

That's why I be home.

I go to work.

I go to the supermarket.

Because I had to write.

I do all this.

I do all types of legal shit.

I open up Uber East, pick some suits.

Like, whatever's legal, I look for legal fun.

Ain't legal fun.

Legal is nice.

Legal fun is fun.

Legal is the shit.

I was just saying.

It's still in there.

Come on.

My bad.

See your face on the news.

Did you know how it feel to see your face on the news?

Ice clears, bro.

That should be right there.

All right, go ahead.

Go ahead, breeze.

Y'all made me forget what I was about to say, man.

Did y'all have any thoughts on the performance on the courtroom steps?

From Doug?

Symbolic.

Yeah.

I did at first

because,

I mean, setup was bad.

Audio was bad.

All that was bad.

But on the flip side, look, look,

look what?

What was bad about the setup?

Yeah, yeah.

He said it sounded bad.

Yeah, it wasn't produced well.

Yeah, thank you.

He wasn't rapping the words.

I mean, nobody's rapping the words.

There's nobody rapping the words.

Yo, plug me up and play my song.

No, he was rapping.

Please.

With the word button.

Please.

But

he was having.

Somebody did point out to me, though, that.

When he got released, part of the conditions was he had to do certain things for.

I was about to tell you.

And I'm like,

I was about to tell you that.

Now salute.

That's why he's there.

Yeah, now salute.

I get it.

Once I saw it, when you hit the group chat and said, yo, Young Doug is performing in front of the courthouse, it made it sound like it was some rogue takeover of the courthouse, like a purge.

That's how they put it out.

Once I saw it,

I saw that the courthouse people were working this event.

I'm like, okay, agreement.

Part of the conditions.

Bring your ass back here and put on a show.

The way it was put out, he put a tweet and was like, yo, Atlanta, meet me here at four o'clock.

We just put the address.

I used to be getting God, man.

No, I'm not getting God.

I'm just saying, this is what happened.

So, so, and then he puts the flyer up saying, Okay, and it's the courthouse.

But then, once I saw they had it barricaded and security and all of this, I said, Okay, this is a thing here.

Was it a good turnout, Freeze?

Yeah, it was a decent turnout for some spur-of-the-moment shit that people didn't know.

Well, his people knew, but the average fan didn't know about.

That's fire, man.

When I see certain stories, like it brings me back to my childhood in hip-hop, right?

It's fire to just imagine if that's your favorite rapper.

Like, and you grew up listening to him.

Shit, in Jersey City in 96 or whatever year it was, it was a big deal when Big Pun came up to Jackson Avenue and did Winnie's.

Some of the people outside would know about that.

Nigga, I stalked every event that one of them niggas was at

with no club clothes.

You know what I mean?

You're not understanding me.

I look like the nigga that shouldn't have been there.

So to be able to go to a courthouse and get this whole performance from Thug, I love that.

I love them negotiating that as part of his fucking freedom, Freedom Fighters.

Dog, it was a dude on Twitter.

He was at the Falcons game.

And he was like, yo, I'm walking out the game.

The game was over about four or something.

I'm walking out the game.

And

I guess the stadium ain't too far from where the courthouse is.

And he's like, yo, I'm walking in my car and I see the post that Thug is doing a concert here.

And that's my favorite rapper.

Like, that's some fly shit that you just stumble on a free show.

From Thug.

From whoever, whoever it is, that's your favorite rapper.

For sure.

That's fly shit.

So I can't hate on that.

Also,

see, I'm with Thug on the music, but

he's doing so many interviews and just saying shit and getting clipped up.

This is where this is where I step off.

I step off when they start.

You know what I mean?

So I'm going to play this clip.

This is Thug on the Pivot

giving his opinion on shout out to the Pivot

and shout out to fucking Brandon Marshall.

I mean, another.

Anyway.

Yeah, I'm going to play this.

This is Thug giving his opinion on therapy on The Pivot.

Another show I want to highlight where black men get real therapeutic.

Shout out to Ryan Clark,

my man, I think Russell Wilson, Russia, Shannon Crowder.

Shout out to those boys, man.

Shout out to Black Men.

Shout out to Fred Taylor, my guy.

I've done that show.

Shout out to black men getting therapeutic and vulnerable on some of these shows.

My big sister, my big brother, my dad, my mom, my OGs, I listen to y'all.

It's really a slap in the face to me.

If I, you know what I'm saying?

I just was telling my girl that, like, I don't think you need a therapist.

I don't think I need a therapist.

I feel like I'm not a man if my girl get a therapist.

It's like, damn, you actually call somebody and listen to what they got to say over me?

Instead of just listening to what I'm telling you.

I just feel less of a man.

You know, in that, there's obviously things that happen through the calls being released that did affect your relationship.

All right, we don't need that part.

What do you have to say about therapy is the part that took off distinguished pan on how do we feel?

A lot of us think.

What do you think?

I just want to ask him, what happens if you're wrong?

Like,

don't listen to a professional.

Listen to me.

But what happens if I give you the wrong information or the wrong advice?

I think it's embedded in us in the neighborhoods that we grew up in that

therapy is frowned upon.

It's not until I came up here, because when I was put into therapy or as a kid to go speak to somebody, it was based off my behavior.

But Sparford wasn't therapy.

I didn't go to Sparford.

Watch your fucking mouth, nigga.

What I'm saying is that, so

that is frowned upon, right?

To women too, though?

No, not women, but he's speaking about himself as well.

He didn't mention initially, I don't need a therapist.

Right, that part I got.

You know what it was for me?

Because I agree with you.

Like, him saying, I don't need a therapist, that's not shocking.

It's just disappointing.

It's a stigma attention.

Not for him, just for people.

Yeah,

I'm with you.

I also think it's okay to not feel like you need therapy.

Maybe he does, but maybe he doesn't.

Feeling like you don't need therapy is different than feeling like therapy isn't needed, like in general.

And I'm with you.

Like some people, a lot of people feel like they don't need therapy.

And neither one of what y'all said is what he said.

I know.

That's my point.

So that's why I was, but when he said he would be disappointed if his girl needed even worse than disappointed.

I wouldn't even feel like a man.

I would feel like less of a man.

That's the part.

That's why I asked about.

That's what stuck out.

That's what stuck out for me.

That's why I said it for women because it's like, if he just said for himself, okay, that wouldn't even be newsworthy.

But part of what I thought is that a lot of times in our communities, we've thought that therapy compromises our masculinity.

So I would have thought he would have been fine with a girl going, even just on some patriarchy.

That still falls

on the line of him.

Right.

Like, I'm the man.

You should be able to come and and talk to me about anything.

And let's work through it.

Right.

You don't need to go to a professional.

I'm with you.

I'm just saying, that was a new spin I hadn't heard before.

And then to Ace's point, that suggests to me that people don't know what therapy actually is or does.

Because if you think therapy is just being a listening ear or giving good advice, then yeah, I can see you.

I don't want this other nigga to give you therapy.

I can give you therapy, girl.

Right?

Because I'm your man.

I can do this for you.

But if people understood what talk therapy is and the layers that it unpacks and the fact that it's a skill that is that you need training.

Trained professionals.

Right.

Yeah.

Exactly.

You wouldn't, you wouldn't feel like less of a man any more than you feel like less of a man if your girl went to see a foot doctor or a heart doctor or

a mechanic.

You wouldn't be like, I feel like less of a man.

I couldn't fix your card, so I don't know what the fuck I'm doing under the engine, but let me do it and then take it to a professional.

Exactly.

Why would you listen to another person and not listen to me?

Because this might have nothing to do with you.

Or you might not

have to talk to your body.

You just might not be equipped to deal with it.

You might can't help me.

That's what I need.

What if you're going to have somebody?

Hold up.

Even that adds some of what a manly man's opinion might be.

She might be going to therapy to get a better understanding of things going on in her life outside of you, nigga.

Right.

Right.

Like, see, and that's the other part.

Men be thinking that they are their partner's whole existence.

There is no life outside of me.

She could be going to that.

And not her.

Let me take it off the number.

Anybody could be going to therapy.

To figure out life without you.

Like, bro.

Right.

People could be going to therapy to unpack some shit that happened when they were on fire.

Before we met you, some childhood trauma, my parents.

Hey, I'm noticing that how I'm responding to you in this house ain't of a certain nature.

These are not things that you should go and speak to your man about.

At all.

He's off.

Yeah.

Right.

He's off.

He's a professional.

Somebody who, like you said, they are trained to deal with this.

That's who you want to talk to.

Let me tell you something, dog.

And I'm saying this.

I don't know how much experience y'all got.

I done been to every therapist there is.

The couples therapists.

That last couples therapy we went to, and I say it all the time.

She was so, she was trained,

licensed.

You could tell she had a gazillion years of experience.

My girl found her on Google because she did one of these TV shows that we like.

We was watching one of the shits on Netflix.

She liked the therapist.

She looked her up.

Her price said, I'm on Netflix, give me therapy, and I'm good at this.

So we went.

She kept that shit so brief.

It was so fast.

It was one hour.

And we left there and got it together.

Got it.

We left there and got it together.

She was a little too honest with us.

But that's what a professional could fucking do.

She's there to say, hey, you got a problem with this.

He's going to keep doing that.

If you love him, what are you doing?

Hey, you're hurting her.

If you love her, you're wasting my time, but I got it because I'm 900 an hour.

Like, we can talk through this, but this is going to keep happening with him, and it's going to keep happening with her.

Now what?

See, a lot of therapy is just getting you out of your own bullshit.

Just

whatever justifications and rationalizations you made up in your mind and your brain.

There was a part in that therapy where I was like, hey, no, stop.

Don't you tell her that.

I love her.

She's sitting there being too honest.

He feels like this.

That's why he's doing this.

Shut your ass up.

We're going to be together.

So

therapy, it gets tough.

It gets tough.

And it's tough for people to hold that mirror up.

But

it's preventative in a lot of ways and helpful in a lot of ways i'm not going to teen summit us out here but his voice is so loud and powerful it's sad when when that's what comes from it and then you hear his album and it sounds like nothing but a man that needs therapy but that's his therapy that's his way to that's it's not that's not it's not that's not therapy

that's not therapy but let's have that talking back

you just hit the nail let's have that talk and we got to stop saying because we said everybody does that's my therapy no it's not that's just an activity you do oftentimes to get away from the work that therapy would actually have have you do.

Oh, shooting pool is my therapy.

Oh, drinking is my therapy.

Church is my therapy.

And so-and-so is my therapy.

Nah.

Well, it makes you calmer.

It takes your anxiety down when you do things that you like or comfortable.

If when you speak about something without speaking to someone and you speak about something and you're able to get your emotions out, your anxiety becomes down.

You start to feel more comfortable and back to who you were.

So that's your mind.

That's your coping mechanism.

Right.

So that's what he's the wrong thing.

That's not my coping mechanism.

Right.

But the problem is, because which is the antithesis

of therapy.

Right.

However you self-medicate,

however you bandage yourself before you present to the world, that's not therapy.

That's just how you surviving out here.

Yeah.

You getting by.

Yeah.

Dove need therapy.

And a lot of times where we come from, we can't afford therapy.

Like my mom was a therapy nut, so I'm a weirdo in this case.

And me and my brother was fucking her in that house, not physically, but we was driving her.

So she had to find alternative routes to deal with different children.

Yeah.

She was, we were, I was creative

in figuring out how to fuck shit up.

So you had to find alternative routes.

Everybody don't do that.

But if you listen to Thugs Bank interview, like Bank is doing the therapy.

Yeah, he was.

And you saying, yo, I saw my brother die when I was, I held him in my arms.

Whatever that story was where you was three, four, five years old.

That's where it starts.

Right.

Niggas don't be knowing that because we think it's normal.

I thought it was normal.

Yo, my gun.

My brother put a gun in my head when I was 10.

What's going on in your house?

You don't know what that does.

You don't know that that act at 10 is going to have an effect on you at 18, 19, 20, 30, 40, the rest of your fucking life.

I'm holding a broadcast officers now because I'm a big therapy ad, but it just bothered me because.

Again, like niggas always say,

our rappers and our athletes shouldn't.

There are rappers and our athletes and our entertainers entertainers for a reason.

Like, once we get them to start talking about how we should be living, mute the mics.

It's important to be aware of the power of your impact.

Mute the fucking microphones.

Andrew.

You out there disseminating just wrong shit.

I told Corey last week, I'm at the bar at fucking Capitol Grill.

They asked me, yo, you want some bread?

I say, nah.

I'm cool.

I don't need no bread.

The lady next to me is a packed bar at lunchtime.

Lady next to me, I say, I'm trying to watch my carbs and my diet because I'm getting fat.

And they don't send me the bread.

And the lady next to me, who's on a laptop doing some work, she says, hey, just want to let you know, it's not the bread that gets you fat.

Bread don't get you fat.

She said, it's American bread.

She said, I'm home making sourdough bread.

I've been all over the world and had bread.

It's only here that that's doing that to you.

And this whole, I forgot why I brought that up, but this whole therapy shit with thug, you deprive yourself of the wealth of knowledge that humans have to give

you just don't know it all right and the bad side like i'm back on thug because he was tweeting over the last couple days

and i think he acknowledges he needs therapy but he tweeted a therapist can't heal this shit like he believe he's so damaged that Maybe not heal, but it can

help you deal with

help you get to a point where, yeah, yeah.

But that's like, what do you say to a person that feels like I'm not anti-therapy, but I'm so fucked up that a therapist can't even do nothing with me.

And a lot of times you be, a lot of times you'd be

shy

or to even, or embarrassed to even express yourself to somebody.

It's not just as black as the masculinity part.

It's not as black as white as you're making it seem.

See, you said that it was instilled in you from a young child.

It's not as black and white to sit down and talk across somebody, to tell them your business.

No, you were saying that I'm a therapy head.

You said my mom had to find them.

I said my mom was a therapy head because she had to find alternative routes to deal with wild kids.

Got it.

And then did that not trickle down to you of why you feel like therapy is okay?

By your mom going to it?

I'm not even saying my mom went to it.

Oh, did you go?

We was wilding.

So she had to just try.

Were we so accepting of it early on?

No, if that's what you're asking.

Got it.

But what I'm saying is.

But she introduced it very early and

we came to grips with with it i understand therapy psychiatrist psychologist all of the medical it becomes embarrassing to sit across well you can feel embarrassing masculinity to tell somebody your business like that like it's a slow pace i remember see that's why we got to fix it but but you'll shoot somebody a lot of times i remember speaking to somebody as a kid we embarrassed about that but we'll shoot somebody i remember speaking to somebody as a kid right and whatever i shared with them was used against me basically that can that can cause trauma that can say man i'm not speaking to a therapist because I didn't go there to speak to somebody to get

reprimanded.

I went there.

It was painting to me that you come speak to me.

You come speak.

And this is off the record.

But when my mother found out, or whatever you told my mom, however crazy it is, then I got reprimanded for it.

So you don't, you have a, it's a trust thing.

Yeah, so then now, I don't want to, so then now that can pass on.

Of course, now that I'm trying it, it's different.

Being up here is different.

But I also understand people not wanting to share their business with somebody else.

Flip, we can understand

all of it.

I'm using my voice

and my platform to tell black brothers like you, black brothers like thug, and black brothers like ish

that there's trauma keeping black people away from therapy.

It's like the resentment.

It's like pissing on yourself and the resentment.

It's hurting nobody but you.

Got it.

Therapy is for the people that have been beat down to the beat down.

Like, Like, there's still some work you have to do.

You have to, therapy is for the people that are sick and tired of what's going on, sick and tired of being sick and tired.

They're just sick.

They're ready to try something.

You have to be willing to submit.

See, that's the thing.

Niggas ain't willing to submit.

Y'all willing to go through all that you're going through and get up, dust yourself off, and go fight for more.

No, you have to be willing to submit.

Yo, y'all won.

Y'all did it.

My thinking fucked it up.

My how I my ideologies, how I was raised, my family, my best friend, my girl.

See, that's the thing about him.

He ain't even honest with his girl.

So you're not honest with your girl.

I'm forced to believe you're not honest with your parents.

You're not honest to your fan base.

Who the fuck are you honest with?

I think black men got to start having some real uncomfortable conversations with themselves.

We started this part with holding a mirror up and having that moment of reflection.

And you niggas need to do that before y'all get on microphones.

And to your point, Joe, you said it don't hurt nobody but yourself.

That's not true.

Because you'll be so fucked up that you start hurting your loved ones and don't even realize.

It ain't just hurting you.

It's hurting the people around you because you don't just get help.

Thug and anybody else out there that might need therapy, I'm praying for y'all.

I love you guys.

There's a community of people that loves you guys.

Wallo tried to give him some therapy.

Like, there's people out there.

There's a community out there that's going to try and give it to you.

That's going to try and love you in spite of what you got going on.

I'd like to always remain in that community.

I'm praying for y'all brothers out there.

I hope one day y'all get it together.

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all right y'all want to dive into I want to dive into why Monty is here

damn hi Mark oh hello

okay we're flirting

ISO on them it's it's desperation I understand you so much better now Joe button when I was winning first of all congratulations to you for winning Potter of of the Month for second fucking time in the middle.

Back-to-back month.

It's a big deal.

It's a big deal, you guys.

No, it is a big deal.

It's a really big deal.

They made the award matter again.

What he won again.

Yeah.

Oh, that surprises you?

Of course.

Surprised me.

Why?

Me too.

I was shocked.

Oh, everybody.

Now I know how you felt when I was winning them.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

I get it now.

Let us get it.

We've been killing him.

That's what I'm saying.

Don't diminish my

dad.

How many mans you did?

I mean, because he kind of helped you by saying, you know, like, yo, he been bodying it and all that.

He kind of threw the apple.

I think that's what I'm saying.

No, I think that he campaigned.

I want you to ever say I campaigned again.

This nigga got campaign slogans, videos.

I saw that.

Wardrobe.

You used me in the picture too, you sick ass nigga.

You do what you got to do.

You used me in a picture.

Which picture?

About me being on my phone, me and Mona.

I ain't like that.

I saw that.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you for the example.

Yeah, I don't think you need to highlight the crew's shortcomings when you're on your phone.

We never did that.

Have you never seen a campaign?

Nah, we we never saw that.

Well, no, because we never campaigned for podcasts.

Yeah, oh, and then step your game up.

But we never campaigned for it.

We just did it on talent.

We'll step your game up.

That's not how you win elections.

And know what?

Listen, congratulations.

Thanks.

Proud of you, buddy.

Congratulations.

Step one, congratulations.

But just so we're clear, why I don't campaign is because that would muddy the waters.

It would.

Okay.

Because niggas got a lot of power, boy.

You're so he campaigned.

I feel sorry for you.

I never campaigned.

So if all of us campaigned, like, anyway.

The whole of night school was voting for you.

Congratulations to Amani Kirk.

Congratulations to you.

I'm happy for you.

Congrats, though.

Yo, wait, let me talk to you real quick.

This award just hasn't meant the same in the rest of the year.

Yeah, it is.

It's at least six months.

I love how y'all diminish and went out.

That's crazy.

Because of your influence, Mark, they had to change up the voting system.

Because you were so influential.

They had to change up the influence.

A lot of people were voting for me.

Nah, nah, nah, we were voting.

They couldn't win.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, nigga.

We know night school and all that shit.

I believe.

You just pelling conspiracy theories now.

No, I did a deep dive into you.

No, you.

Whoa.

I know we don't say pause anymore, but that was crazy.

I did a deep dive and they changed it.

When I highlighted that, they changed it.

But there's a lot of fun.

You think you parted good enough to win?

I think I even looked.

I think for me, do I think I parted good enough to win?

I'm not trying to be funny.

I think the last episode was great.

Do you think one episode should get you?

For me,

for me, yes.

That's a solid day.

I'll need to click on it.

Solid days work.

I got you.

Hey yo.

Hey yo.

One shift, right?

You're supposed to be the leader and you're supposed to lead and teach and help your, you know, your counterparts be better.

Yo, check this out.

If you are part of the audience and you think I'm a leader,

leave.

Nah.

Don't stay here because you think I do a great job at leading.

I don't.

I know.

I don't.

I don't.

Actually, I think that's a large part of why a lot of y'all stay here.

Y'all know it's going to be a blunder sooner or later.

Joe can't leave.

Let's just stick around.

Anywho,

congratulations, guys.

Shout out to Imani.

Shout out to Amani.

Thank you.

Fuck out of here.

Absolute.

Absolute.

Well, I guess we can't start an Absol conversation without having Kai Sanat coming for us.

Kai Sinat is doing one of the things that he be doing.

Mafia Thon 3.

Mafia Thon

3.

The last one.

Boy.

Final one.

This is the final one.

And this is supposed to get him to a million subs.

He got a million.

He reached it already.

He got hit already.

I know.

I'm just telling you

that that was the goal of the thing, to get him to a million subs.

He's hit a million subs.

But what I loved about this one is it looked a lot more hip-hop-centered.

It did.

It did.

So one of the things they did was have the people come up there and do freestyles.

On the radar.

They partnered with On the Radar.

Shout to Gabriel.

That red backdrop is sick, and they had people come up there to rap.

Long before Ab Sol got up there, I wanted to highlight this segment

because

one of the dudes who I just thought was a streamer

is not a streamer.

Bin Dadon

went crazy.

I'm sure I have it saved here somewhere.

I'm sure I do.

There was a couple good freestyle sessions.

There was a dude from a dude from Jersey.

Yeah, dude from Jersey.

Yeah.

Oh, the Jersey dude.

Yeah, something like that.

He, hey, Ben Dadon can't fool me.

You're not a streamer.

You're a rapper.

He went absolutely nuts on there.

He's been one of my favorite freestyles I've heard in a long time.

He's smoking.

That guy's a rapper.

Y'all stop tricking me with this streamer bullshit.

I find another another way bro that guy is a mc

he raps nah he went crazy though he i feel bad i ain't hear it

i'm gonna find it chris chris patrick is chris patrick is a guy from jersey he killed jersey he absolutely sculpted over the uh man in the garden beat yeah i'll give a little bit of that while you look for that

voicemail every day for 15 months because that fear of granny leaving is some shit i can't accept got a job to keep the dreamers go because the truth is rope is never linear for someone reaching for success.

Body breaking hobbies tell my sleep, cause my anxiety is too deep.

I need to win before I leak out this place.

I spoke to God and asked him why me.

His response is holding down.

Just trust the process and continue with your brain.

Some days I want him quit, but me not quitting.

It's the reason why a jersey nigga gets to show the world I need.

Baffle protein powder mixed with water was my only meal.

Baffle labels used to call it sin, never closed the deal.

Back against the wall, I keep my all on days.

I slowly heal.

After all, my rights to clear the voices I don't want to feel.

Addiction in my blood, looking snug until my stomach healed.

Insidiary drugs keep me numb to things I want to kill.

Give it up all the time.

He went crazy out.

He went crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

Chris Patrick, his name?

Yeah, I gotta look him up.

Anybody from Jersey, I'm shouting out.

Big Jersey.

Shout out to Chris Patrick.

He absolutely smoked that freestyle.

Good luck to you and all your endeavors.

This has been the Dawn.

A million subs on the way, nigga.

Hey,

I don't like to brag.

But fuck it today, I'ma get on their ass.

I've been having cash.

I do not smoke Reggie, I ain't missing my dad at all.

But fuck it, I'm on that.

Them niggas been trolling, I know they don't want that.

Pull up with your whole ass.

He thinking I'm thirping.

No, shit, throwback.

No cap.

See how I'm living.

I stay in the pants, I floor my building.

He knows I don't feel him.

Been biting my style for years, he's stealing.

I be dealing.

Cause how he got M's, he 30 and chillin'.

We really no different.

My niggas caught bodies.

I went made a killing.

I need to know.

That's killing.

That's hard.

I see what you mean now.

Yeah, get raped.

Yeah, no.

He ain't in the street.

Listen,

he heat up as he keep on.

Look, brush, you with me.

He be thinking this bitch hiding.

Niggas from my hoodies, I'm still lit.

Boy, you pee back in high school.

Last nigga that tried me, I flew at his bitch.

Made her blow me like hot food.

I'm having that paper for real.

Without that prank, and I told her I'm not dude.

I tell her the truth, I ain't shit.

You lying to hit look,

he reminded me of early young money.

Like, remember when the big Sean metaphor took off?

Yeah, I made your bitch blow me like hot food.

He remind me of the baby.

Change the beat on these niggas.

Hold up, change the beat on these niggas.

All them times I spent with her.

Sometimes I wish could rewind it.

I go by D.O.

Double Land.

I'm in this bid with the mafia.

She wanna slug it while I scream.

I told the baby was stopping you.

We the ones.

No, I said I want a bad, but then I hit.

Now I'm offer.

Can't complain.

I had to take the L and charge it to the game.

All that shit I went through, swear to God, was worth the pain.

Clutching on my body, gonna take some time adjusting to this fame.

Had to bust it down, but I can't lie.

I like my pet.

I love that, though.

I'm cutting this off.

Hey, Benadon, you ain't fooling me, dog.

Hey, you could be over there doing all of that.

Streamer University,

young nigga, I'm doing a cartwheel backflip.

I show speed.

Michael Rudolph.

What's up, homeboy, Michael Rubin?

I know.

Michael Rudolph.

Shout out to Ben, man.

What up?

You a rapper, dog.

Yeah, bro.

That's fine.

He found the way.

And a damn good one.

He found the way.

I like what you're saying.

I have a whole new outlook.

Yeah, I don't really respect.

No, seriously.

That's what I realized about myself.

Like, because of where I come from and where my teachings come from, I don't respect you depending on where you got your teachings from.

How I view him from streamer to MC, it's totally different.

Different now?

Yes.

Yes.

So what's the problem with the streamer?

There is no problem with it, but move.

Why?

Because just move.

There's nothing wrong.

Don't try to make it be something bad.

I'm not.

I'm just trying to understand.

It's from a different era.

It's from a different generation.

It's just like how...

Okay, so it's just old shit.

My mom, perfect example.

My mom, who, if I tell you her age, she'll kill us all.

Oh, yeah, yeah, don't do that.

Please don't do that.

But she is

a lot hipper

than most people her age.

So she was telling me, she'd be talking to young people.

You know, I was having to talk with some people.

And they was telling me about some lingo that came from your podcast and then some other lingo about something called chat, chat, chat.

Like, I don't understand.

And I was like, mom,

the chat lingo is for a younger demo.

And people that are, I use my brother Ethan and Anthony, the people that have the headphones on and the gamer seats and they're on the game.

They're talking to people.

They're interactive.

That's where that comes from.

This other shit you're saying is from people around my age.

Like there is separatism

in where you learn some of this shit.

So if you tell me you're a streamer, awesome.

Cool.

Good luck.

I support you.

Get money, nigga.

Y'all niggas getting it.

But stay over there.

If you tell me you an MC,

you look at it a different eye.

You're communicating something differently.

Yeah.

I agree.

You're telling somebody else something different.

So it's not just missing the vision of the stream.

Okay.

No, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no.

I understand that now.

Now I get it.

Now that I explain that.

Yeah, I get that.

Yeah, yeah.

Everything that you say to somebody on this earth, you're communicating something, whether you know it or not.

Shit, that's like us saying if you tell somebody you're a podcaster.

Yeah.

That could come off a certain way.

That's still a good thing.

That's why I don't say that.

I'm a podcaster.

I don't say that.

I don't say I'm a podcaster.

I should never say that.

Never.

What do you mean?

You are.

A broadcast.

A podcaster.

Always a podcast.

A broadcaster.

A broadcaster, for sure.

Don't put no ceiling on me, nigga.

Some of the talks I'm having behind the scenes ain't no podcast talk.

It's broadcast.

Big boy shit.

Don't podcast me.

I was there in the beginning.

Combat Jack, all of that.

Rest in peace.

We in a different game now.

Don't call me no podcaster.

Because we move in different places now.

Yeah, most of the podcasters feel like that.

You don't move in just podcast spaces.

I don't know if you're making a joke or not.

No, I'm just saying wherever you go with them big boys.

I'm just saying plural.

We out.

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Yeah, nigga.

What are you talking about?

Yeah, these niggas.

I like the term entertainer.

Not that it's not.

But you are entertaining.

I work in the entertainer.

But no, I think all of us, all of us are.

All of us are at this point.

But you're talking to a potter.

But it depends on who you're talking to on the third month, right?

That could also come off a way, though.

Why?

You tell somebody I'm an entertainer.

I would never say that.

I say I work in entertainment.

You don't, you don't even anymore.

Yeah, but E is an active entertainer.

Even though my job is to entertain

someone who's unfamiliar and they say, what do you do?

I'm not saying

I'm an entertainer.

It don't tell them what I needed to tell them.

But I think for you, it works because you're an artist and you're still performing and you're still doing live shit.

I mean, what did I saying I'm an artist?

And that's your gifts.

Oh, that's that's that's a good idea.

I'm an artist.

That's why I said that.

I like that better for you.

Okay, entertainment is blurry.

Right.

And people, people, people want to ask more questions.

Yeah, yeah, what do you do?

They can kind of take you short for that.

Like, I feel you said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel that.

Exactly.

What was I talking about?

We were talking about Kai.

We were talking about Kai.

Yeah, absolutely.

Oh, so congratulations to Kai.

Yes.

And everyone on Team Kai, the whole AMP team, y'all hit y'all goal.

Let me hit the fucking button.

Shout out to y'all.

And every time y'all do one of these mafia-thon marathons, that shit hit.

And everything that comes from it, I love.

I love Drewski and Capitol R.

That was hilarious.

Yo, that bitch was thick.

Well, look at me.

She was I

made the screen.

I enlarged the screen.

Sometimes you stream of niggas.

She was thick.

Then I saw the face.

I was was like, I'll pod.

I'm chopping.

Niggas ain't stopping.

Okay.

No, she had body.

No, she had body.

Ain't stopping nobody.

You fucked.

Just him?

Well, he's the only one single.

Oh, that's true.

Correct.

And he's mad at that.

Yeah.

See?

But just because of that, too, I'm going to propose and shut him up.

It's going to be the ending.

A lot of people feel like y'all lost that conversation.

So I don't really care.

A bunch of idiots.

Oh,

a bunch of absolute.

That's cool.

Yo, in case you don't know this about me,

seriously, we've known each other a long time.

A million people

saying the opposite of what I'm saying don't do shit.

It don't deter me.

I stay on my toy.

That's what makes me a little,

I think that all those people were retarded too.

For the people at home that don't know what we're talking about, Amani was saying, if you're not married, everything else is in the same boat, whether that be single, actively dating, long-term relationship, relationship you don't live with your girl, everything that's not marriage is under the same boat.

While I do understand the premise, I don't agree with it.

I'm not passionate enough to fight about it.

Me neither.

But I'm not mad at nobody that.

I'm not mad at nobody.

Yeah, and think whatever y'all want to think.

Yeah, I don't have shit to do with my life.

I don't care.

No.

Listen, my girl hit me this morning.

What she said?

I think we were drawing a role play, but it was a trick.

No, she tricked me.

See, fucking with Amani.

She must have seen the pod.

Actually, she set me up because she texted me, talking about, oh, I can't wait to see this marriage resting-life conversation y'all was having.

So I hit her and said, the fans is gassing.

It's not.

It's not.

She said, mm.

Wait, wait, wait.

Wait, she said that.

That's it.

If you send me an um,

I don't, I'm not, I'm done with the talk now.

I'm not playing with Mark.

I'm not playing with you.

I'm not going to handle it.

I'm not playing with it.

Anyway, she said,

eight o'clock this morning.

Hello, good morning.

It's me, your girlfriend.

I said, oh, hey, what's your name, Texi?

Right?

Okay.

See, you fucked up.

Wrong answer here, because you missed the total girlfriend.

You missed it.

Girlfriend, as in, we ain't married, nigga.

I missed it.

I saw the, yeah, you missed it.

Carry on.

Go ahead.

See, I took it as.

See, she's been beefing on Sundays because she beefed yesterday.

Sunday is football move.

So she's saying, hey, we ain't spoke.

It's me, your girlfriend.

I didn't take it like y'all taking it.

So I said,

I try to be playing.

What's your name, Tech Teen?

It was a trap.

Yeah, yeah.

You missed the first game.

Yeah, right from the bottom.

The first thing she said was, whatever you wanted it to be, Daddy.

And I was like, hey, we role-playing.

And then she said, but I prefer Miss Button.

Yachty, dumbass.

That's what you're going to track.

What the fuck are you talking about, bro?

That's right, Shade.

Yeah.

That's right.

Wait.

But this out

off I am.

No, he didn't.

I said, no, he didn't.

Oh,

we role playing.

NECO.

I said, hey, Miss Button.

Oh, my God.

What's up with your bad?

Shut the fuck out, Corey.

I said, I'm slow.

I didn't know.

I didn't know that losing that.

Corey, he ain't no.

I didn't know.

I'm like, oh, shit.

Try to hide that nigga, holy fuck out.

Yeah, that's your problem.

We role-playing.

No way, yo.

Hey, Miss Button.

Hey, girl.

But she said after that.

Yeah, yeah.

I can't read no more.

How many lines are we reading?

I can't really read some off caps.

She started using a factory.

The fact it gotta be role-playing is crazy.

Hey, Neko.

Got him.

The nigga laughed.

Look, I'm fucked before.

See?

Oh, shit.

Wait, nah, timeout.

We back to the Bronx.

Back to the Bronx while I'm on this freestyle shit.

And we were supposed to be talking about episode, but hold up.

To the niggas that actually freestyled,

them High Bridge boys went up there, too.

And I really love that Donkey freestyle, which I thought I had queued up, but

apparently it's not.

Donkey.

Oh, here we go.

It is.

okay.

Let's go.

Yo, let me tell you something.

Yeah.

I love them.

Listen to me.

Listen to me.

Listen to me.

Any nigga that comes from where we come from that raps.

If they rap

when they hear Fantasia, when I see you,

a few things are going to happen.

One, they're going to get really excited to deliver some bars over this.

And two, they've killed people.

That's one of the other.

They've killed.

No, no, it's true.

Both.

That's one of the true.

It's both.

Your Your brain

to rap about like drugs and street shit and murder over the Fantasia.

When I see you, they did it.

The last one.

And got away.

And got away.

And got away.

I'm not putting on Donkey on a nigga.

Shout out to Donkey.

Don't you?

You went crazy on this.

That's my guy.

Boy, boy, boy.

But I'm going to play a little bit.

See what I mean.

We have

Bridge.

You know what it is.

See, look, even how you sound.

Yeah.

And then we'll get to episode who didn't have the most

the most pleasurable outing

Buried my right hand.

I ain't been the same since had to lock in like King James St.

6 on some renegade shit.

I don't entertain disc records from niggas.

I don't never share stays with.

Trying to find out what I mix my lemonade with.

Adder rolls back and raw, about to hit the day shift.

Trapping they dead.

Yeah, I like that.

Let me pause this.

I like that juxtaposition.

Let me pause this.

I love the juxtaposition of street rhymes over some fan happy shadow shit.

And when we say street rhymes, not to bring it full circle, if you listen to the rest of this verse,

he needs therapy.

I'm sorry.

We talk about niggas that need therapy and acknowledge it over a good sounding beat, and it works.

It's on some afraid shit, down to my last pounds.

It's two plates, mixed cash in the suitcase.

Took a two-day trip, came back with some packs, made a few plates flip.

Gotta hustle.

I ain't with none of that new age shit.

Just getting high in the crib, playing 2K shit.

Niggas broke cuz they starching.

I gave hope when they was down.

Jesus to the hood, turned the grammar coke into a mountain.

I seen death, I ain't ashamed to go to counseling.

Broden killed for free.

Fuck, you think he'll do for 40,000?

Yo, dog, yo.

Yeah, he's going crazy.

I done seen death, but I ain't afraid to go to counseling.

Broden killed for free.

Fuck, you think he'll do for 40,000, nigga?

Stop playing with Donathan Q.

I don't know what he does.

Donathan Don Quixote.

Because not enough people know.

Like, if you're in New York, if you're in the Bronx, I feel like Don Q, for me, gives like Freddy Gibbs.

I'm not Freddy Gibbs,

Fred DeGodson.

Thanks for watching.

Freddy Godson, rest in peace.

He got some of that to me.

Yeah.

Like, that was crazy.

Anyway, back to Absol.

Absolutely went up there and shit to bed.

He did.

Pretty much.

He did.

Absolutely went up there and absolute shit to bed.

Even if you love Absol, there's no way to pretty this up.

I think we all love Absolute.

But I am going to do my, I'm going to do my best.

Okay.

I hated this.

Let's hear it.

Let's hear it.

Let's hear it, man.

Solo.

I'm so sad this happened over this beat, too.

I'm sad this happened over this crazy platform on this stage.

And this platform.

You're absolutely right about that.

Thank you, Fresh Lord.

Pause this.

Pause this.

I'm sorry.

I'm a rapper.

I'm sorry.

Can't.

How he sound

coming in

lets you know.

He

something bad is about to happen.

Yeah, he don't sound as confident as he's supposed to.

His shout-outs, we assume he's shouting out somebody he loves his voice, his tonality, his projection is not where it needs to be.

For absolute underground legendary MC

to be on mainstream ass Kai Sanat

stream, which this was an odd appearance to me if you're not if you're not gonna kill it.

Right?

If you're not going to kill it, you shouldn't have been there.

Don't do it, right?

It seemed like he went in there really trying to freestyle.

Like, I didn't have like a lot of, we know, freestyles are no, previously.

Let's hear, let's hear a little bit.

Come on, let's do it.

I'm just a best, so I told you that.

That's too soon for you to even fuck up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's too fast for you to fuck up.

It's like I'm not sure.

You said half a bar and you started fucking up.

Yo, if you're unfamiliar with Absol, this is not the MC he is.

Not a drop.

I've known Abso for over 10 years now, rapped with him.

He gets biscuits.

He is good.

Very good.

Him on this beat on this platform, I see the play.

Should have been supposed to go absolutely crazy.

This was going to go.

It's supposed to be a moment.

When I saw it and I heard the beat and I saw him, I was like, all right, this is going to be the one that stands out the most on all these freestyles.

But if I have to just, if I have to just speculate, though, if I have to speculate, this opportunity was so big for him that he wrote something.

For sure.

It's the only way that this happened.

He has absolute has all his verses memorized

he ain't go up there with a memorized verse and forget it he wrote something trying to get something off like the mcs be doing and didn't remember it that's what it that's what it's like to remember it and if you stumble that early that fucks up you don't know it

yeah yeah because when you get up there there's there's no way for the casual listener there's no way to practice this You can't practice it.

When you write it and say it in your room, you have it.

You can't reenact real-time platform, everybody's in the room, and it's not muscle memory anymore.

And for someone like him that uses a lot of different pockets and tones and shit like that,

that shit be hard to fucking.

Sometimes you need the Styles P Jadakiss kind of simpler rhyme scheme in these situations.

That's the other reason that makes me think that he wrote something specifically for this because this ain't even a beat that the rapper picks to go in.

You have to have wrote to this beat, yeah.

You can't just rap to this beat.

I have a million verses.

If you put this beat on right now, I'm gonna sound like this.

Right, you have to write to this.

I think he wrote to this, it wasn't memorized, horrible outing.

He did own it later, but let's hear some more of this.

I sound like ice on GZ.

See, I wanted to hear that oxygen bar.

Yeah,

people tend to bend up.

Yeah,

God.

It was over.

It was over from the second.

No, no, keep it playing.

Keep it playing.

Keep it playing.

I don't want to do this.

Keep it playing.

Damn, yo.

I want to commend Kai and them with how patient they were.

They were patient.

They wanted him to get some bars off.

Yeah.

Which is funny because Kai Sinat don't know a fuck shit about rap.

See, in my opinion,

they should have stepped in and just started talking to Lou.

Like, yo, yo, we got to bring that back.

You know, they could have eased this up.

At that point,

he should have just grabbed a joint he already had memorized.

at that point.

I would have been like, once he fucked up in bar tour, I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, we're bringing that back.

We're bringing that back.

That's when you say, change the beat.

Or that, but see the other thing.

We're bringing that back.

I'm not letting y'all do this hold up.

We're on Kaisinat.

That's when the showmanship comes out.

Master of Ceremony.

I'm not mad at Kai and his homeboy.

You niggas ain't real rap fans.

But y'all

are going to do that.

It's a part.

It's a part of the game.

It's part of the rap fans.

It's a part of this, too.

Cause and that didn't know why late three months ago.

So I'm not about to sit here and say he's the guy that will know.

And he caught on seven minutes too late.

Four minutes too late.

I would expect a gabe to step in here because he does this.

Well, you know, the other thing is, they don't be, a lot of them freestyles, like when they go on flex, on the radar, all of those.

It'd be performances for us.

Right.

And not just that.

They punch.

They go back.

Like, this is live in real time.

He don't do this often.

Nah, we can't.

I'm not.

I'm not.

Nah, Ab Sol went up to that Power 106 shit

and went absolutely nuts.

He goes nuts in these shit.

But those be, I'm telling you, I've spoken to the producers of a lot of them freestyles.

They don't be one take.

When they do those, it shouldn't have to be.

So I'm just saying that.

But this is live.

You're saying what I'm saying?

So the stumbles that might happen, we don't know that he don't do this at Power 106.

So you might stumble over it.

But they can clean it because they go back and punch.

Nah, then you shouldn't have win.

Nah.

Nah.

Then you shouldn't have win.

I'm not giving that.

Ab has also been someone who was willing and prepared to go on stage and do actual battle rap events and go against those people who are way more trained in that level.

So he has that about him.

It's not like that's

not a part of his pedigree as a rapper.

And he just had a bad style.

Yeah, he just had a bad outing.

That's what happens.

I would have liked to see them.

Hey, bring it back.

Let's...

Diffuse this.

But that goes back into Joe saying Kai is not of that nature.

He's just giving you the platform at this point.

I give you a- It's Ab Sol's job to be the experienced professional in the room at that point.

I'm not putting that on Kai Sinat and his man.

Absolute is supposed to either say, stop the beat and get something a little more friendly to what you're trying to do,

or he's supposed to just freestyle off the top of his head, which he can, and get the props from naming the things that are in the room.

Or, or just pull out a rhyme that you got in the cut.

You know what I'm saying?

They might not work on that beat.

Switch the beat.

Costinat, we on marathon.

You whacky ass MCs, y'all ain't half a Don.

And I'm here with gay, we in the red room.

You dead song.

Like, you got to go to the points of, oh, shit.

You got it.

That's what rappers do to let the non-rapper people know that.

You still rap?

You want to go to wherever?

They still shrink.

They ain't done yet.

They got a little bit more time.

You want to go up and down?

You was watching that shit.

I want to get this there.

Look at you.

Look at the passion.

What beat you?

You were the rap.

You were the rap?

You had a rap.

You wrote some shit, right?

You had a beat.

What's the beat, though?

I didn't have a beat.

I don't have a beat.

Would you wrap up a burning blue?

Everybody mute up.

No, no, no.

He's not going to do that.

Now put on photos.

It'll just be silent.

He's not going to do that.

It'll just be silent.

But now I'm curious, though.

Like at work.

I just want to know what beat would you choose of a current beat today that you like?

Like, yo, that's why I'm understanding him.

If Kai called me or this opportunity existed, I would write because it's big.

I would probably pick bodies because it's recent, fresh, new, sound like a killer supposed to jump on this.

And I would be excited to do that.

He just lost his, he just, it was the bad day that every rapper has.

Yeah.

It's just the wrong time to have that with that platform.

Every rapper has had that.

Again.

there.

From bars, I'm just talking about.

Well, they don't be having rappers there.

That's my point.

From bar two, when it's when it goes off the rails, you're supposed to.

Yo, we've seen enough.

We've seen enough fire shit from Ab to know that he's gonna make up for it.

He's gonna be going on tour soon.

He's gonna go on tour.

He's gonna showcase that.

I had a little blender, whatever.

Cool.

I'm good now.

But I don't think.

He's gonna address this in another verse.

I don't think this affects his fan base.

At all.

This affected his ability to add new fans.

Yes, for sure.

He was talking to a different audience.

For sure.

Did his fan base know what time it is where Absolutely?

so like i'm not mad at ab having a bad day i just hate that it happened there with them eyes on that like that's when you were supposed to shine it happens but i think i think there'll be opportunity to make up for it yeah it was so bad listen three four minutes in kind of them figured out that they should be trying to amp him along like your spotter in the gym like they was like oh oh the bar down here wasn't no oh and there wasn't no ooh i mean at 230 on the bitch press

they ain't no they didn't ooh they was like uh it just wasn't it just wasn't

it just wasn't that, man.

Shout out to Solo.

Shout out to Solo, man.

Shout out to Solo.

Solo hard no more of this, man.

No.

You can't.

No.

You can't, because it hurts us.

Yeah.

I didn't even laugh.

Not at all.

There's nothing.

It's not.

It wasn't funny.

It wasn't funny.

It wasn't like

the Sway.

What's the O'Mellie joint?

Like that that was funny.

That was funny.

That was a funny moment.

That was just like, ah, we know that this person rapping can do what he needs to do.

The funny part about that.

And it's not funny.

Whatever.

How you felt about that?

The funny part, yo, I'm talking.

Yeah, you don't ask Mark now while I'm talking.

You're crazy.

How you talking about that important here?

Oh, oh, that's right.

Mark ain't that important here.

It changed.

It ain't.

Yeah, it's not.

Not while I'm talking.

If I toss it to him when I'm

when I'm done, got you fired at that.

You're talking.

All right.

It's gone down.

Yeah, it happens, man.

I forgot.

Mark, what are you saying now?

I wouldn't say nothing.

I remember nothing.

I don't know nothing.

You ain't hear it, right?

Nope.

Okay, got it.

You're not going to speak bad on Philly.

Shout out to Philly.

Shout out to my brother O'Mellie.

Shout out to the whole squad.

Yep.

Nope.

All right.

It's good loyalty.

Got to be.

Somebody got to be.

Can't wait for Friday.

What's Friday?

Oh, when the

other cast member comes from Philly.

Oh, I think.

Shout out to Moner.

Shout out to our girl Big Moner.

Shout out to Big Boner.

Yeah, man.

It happens, man.

Yeah, this doesn't hurt nothing.

We love you, man.

Don't worry.

Shake it off.

Got it.

That's the funny part about this.

Your man just had arguably one of the best years any rapper has ever had.

He's texting you about this, too.

He's texting you.

Because if you're going to go do that, then nigga, go sit down somewhere and let me just continue to ride the Not Like Us West Coast fans.

No, don't pop out now and.

Whoopsie-daisy.

Nigga, act the time.

I'm down for a whoopsa-daisy.

Could not have been happier.

Oh, you know they're going to be.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, they was going crazy.

Academics could not have been happy.

West Coast Farrier ass nigga.

Dot Error.

That's what he was.

Dot Error.

He posted the Dot Error.

Yeah, I ain't like.

I didn't like that.

That shit was funny.

Shout out to Ab Soul, man.

Waiting to hear the next freestyle now.

I am.

And you got a kill.

Sweet.

And he will.

Crazy.

Like, let's not.

He still Absol.

And you might as well pick that beat again and do it right.

Yeah.

Nah, leave that beat.

No.

The moment's past.

No, no, no.

He should put that out.

Yeah.

Munt himself should put that out.

He should do that beat with whatever verse he had where he could read it and be comfortable and put that out.

So the fans at least don't lose.

So we knew what he was trying to do.

Right.

You said he addressed it.

He acknowledged and said, Oh, yeah, yeah, he did.

He did.

It was long.

It was long.

Let's see.

He did acknowledge it.

I ain't got to play.

He basically said, I fucked up.

He only said that.

That's all I was saying.

He ain't blaming the beat, he ain't blaming the Ed phones.

Yeah, that's all you can do.

He did all your stuff.

Do y'all have a take on?

Do y'all?

I'm sorry, Mark.

Do you have a take on Reason on Twitter?

What reason?

Did y'all see the Reeves tweet?

I saw it and I was like, he was like,

they got to get this guy some help.

And the fans was on reasons ass because it was like, yo, if that's your homie, then you should be with that.

And then he responded and said, that's not my homie.

We're not homies at all.

Actually, he just dissed me recently, but I have enough love in my heart to say something.

What is he referring to when he's saying you should get this guy some help?

Well, that's the part that should be taboo.

It's not the free status.

It's not the free stat.

And I know what he's trying to imply, and it's corny.

god oh yeah okay because that's not the message you say and salute the reason i with his music and think he's dope but is it corny even if it's true yes yes yes right yeah right that's not the that's not the platform to showcase that whether we cool or not if you're saying it from a place of genuine love that's something a back channel gets to or somebody on the back channel who can actually get that message to that person i agree and i disagree i agree with you you're right I also disagree because I've said that same thing about Kodak in a tweet man times.

Anytime I see a Kodak video come out that look nuts, I say, yo, please, can we pray for him and get his bros together?

But there's a big difference between what Ab did up there from what we see Kodak.

There's a big difference between your relationship with Kodak and

aside from that.

If Ab Sol was up there stumbling, falling over, like looking visibly intoxicated, a mess, then that's one thing.

If you just fucked up and you think it's because he was too stoned or something, like that's the part that's inappropriate.

That's a little good.

The internet and people on the internet have to stop just diagnosing people.

That one never stops.

Now, you might have some privileged information that we don't know about, but you can't just, Parks is right, based off what we saw,

that's not enough for that heavy of an accusation.

Hey, get this brother some help.

He forgot his freestyle, and he might have smoked some weed before he got it here.

Right, right.

Like, that's not ringing.

That's not ringing.

Hey, Freeze is absolutely right, man.

The drop is here for a reason.

Go ahead, Mark.

I had a, I've been, Trying to figure out how to make sense of this.

Kanye West has a new ops list.

So much, y'all.

You know, every six months or so, he got one.

The last one had like hove and some sort of familiar faces.

This one, more familiar names, but I was curious.

He tweeted, I am in pain that no one person can fix.

The betrayal.

Therapy.

Right.

Turns out there is someone.

And then he gave a list of people who betrayed him.

I'm just going to do the list real quick.

Kim Kardashian.

Facts.

Okay.

I show speed.

Wait, wait.

Speed's problem.

What the fuck Speed do?

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

I'll tell you what nigga told me.

Diddy.

That one surprised me because they were just tight.

They were just shouting each other.

He just came to the station.

He was at the fucking courthouse.

Oh, this might be manufactured in because the whole, I mean, that whole Diddy's a man.

That's what I'm saying.

Diddy just, he just came to Sean.

He just sold the fucking Sean John Freeham shirts.

All right, this might be a fake list.

But I mean, he posted it.

Oh, never mind.

Yeah.

And that might have been opportunistic, bro.

Go ahead.

Whoa.

Todd Dollar sign.

That one shot.

I said that one.

That's facts.

Now, here's one none of us will disagree disagree with.

Harriet Tubman.

You got some old.

She was a plant.

No, she wasn't.

Watch your fucking mother.

Watch your back about Harry.

Watch your mouth, nigga.

In his story, Kanye is going on the Harriet Tubman was a plant rant.

That's what he's doing?

He's done it years ago.

She portrayed him, though.

Right.

She don't know you.

She shot one of the.

Nah, I ain't going to say that.

That's not

laying him down, nigga, in the river.

That makes sense to me.

Anyway.

Harriet Tubman will fuck Kanye up.

Serious shootout.

He was official here.

Yeah.

Northwest.

Wait, his daughter?

Yeah, other direction.

I agree.

It could have just been directional.

I don't talk about it.

Capital N, capital W.

Wait, he really added his daughter to this list.

Yes.

I don't know why as a family shit.

I ain't going to get into it, but the fact that he mentioned his daughter is noteworthy.

Pusher.

I didn't know he got a beef with his daughter.

I ain't talking about either because it's his kid.

I don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, I ain't got nothing to do with it.

Pusher.

Okay, no surprise there.

Freddie Gibson.

Cutting.

Look down at Freddie Gibbs, dude.

Dude, Gibbs?

I'm telling you what he wrote.

I don't want to say Freddy Gibson.

Why put his last name there in Freddie Gibson?

He's funny putting his whole last name there.

What did Freddie Gibbs do to Kanye?

Rat.

Better.

Who else is there?

Cuddy.

Okay, I understand that.

Curious George.

That one for a panic.

That's what I'm curious about.

The monkey.

The monkey?

I don't know, but one.

That's only Curious George.

Donald Trump.

Yo, that's so crazy.

Yo.

That'll be good for you.

This is the first time I've ever thought that the curious and curious George was racist.

Starting talking about Doofli Beatnuts, man.

That's possible.

But unlike.

Because why is the what is the monkey curious about?

Everything.

You remember the books?

Oh, you thought he was a little bi-curious?

Yo.

Yo, come on.

No.

The monkey gets

coming right now.

You know what I'm saying?

Do a bad company.

He's doing all kinds of shit at it.

I'm just saying.

Today at 45, it reads like, oh, you know what?

He woke up.

He is FBA now.

He is.

He woke up the fuck up.

He's his little monkey curious as to why white people are running shit.

Niggas went back to watch the show to criticize him.

Hey, look at these monkeys.

They want to learn about why

we the boss.

That does have a little.

Just watch Penn of the Gates last night.

Pete Emerupin.

Pete Davidson.

Makes sense.

All right.

That's better for us.

Patrick Starr.

That one also.

That makes sense.

LeBron James.

Patrick Starr makes sense.

Who the fuck is Patrick Starr?

From SpongeBob.

From SpongeBob.

That's a star.

Okay.

And then rounding up the list is King Von, Playboy Cardi.

King Von's dead.

And if you'd have said that while he was alive.

This would have had a whole different.

He picked a good time to list that one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

James Murray.

And then the last name, he just wrote Adolph.

All right, cool.

I'm assuming he means Adolph Reed, the professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania.

Yeah, that's exactly the way he's doing it.

For sure.

That's it.

I normally don't respond to Kanye tweets because that's what he wants.

You're going to be on the next list.

No, I'm not.

Me and Kanye ain't got no issue.

Yeah, we ain't got no issue.

But

is this just a, does this feel to y'all like an album's coming out?

It always feels like there's something to sell.

Roll out, yeah.

It might not be out.

It's something to sell.

The Yeezy store is going to be back up with $20 off everything.

I was still here the last album he put up.

Yeah, me.

I think I used the only one that heard it.

Oh, was that Vultures 2?

Yeah.

Yeah, that wasn't good.

All right.

Niggas is just not over Kanye.

It's just like, like, at this point, don't get, like, we have, we don't, we don't have to talk about it, but at this point, what is surprising?

Like, what's new about this?

Kanye is this.

This is the regular schedule program with this nigga it is kanye is that relative that just be in the corner going crazy yeah and like we know you're in the back

yeah we know we know the which candace owens oh shit um

an image or a video clip has been going around niggas is horny

that's the only way to describe this i didn't know about it i came in today and people were people were telling me about it niggas turn candace owens just giving a little funny little joint into what's she doing

i can't do it because then they'll click

Not in the microwave.

Nah,

you can't.

Trust the community pottery.

I got y'all.

She could be a good start to win it three times in a row.

Yeah, this is definitely when you cook.

Let's commit into the gig.

I think somebody else should get it.

You're entertaining.

I'm good.

We don't want it.

Okay.

You already said we don't care about it.

Come on.

Whatever she did,

she was doing a motion where she was mocking someone and she had a whole thing where she had her tongue out and started wagging her head back and forth and looking at the joint.

With the eyes looking at the joint.

I ain't gonna lie.

Now that I think about it,

I ain't gonna lie.

That's what she's torty-ass nigga.

And men on the internet objectified her and sexualized her.

That was crazy.

Yeah, I kind of thought that y'all did that.

That's the part that's super crazy.

Y'all needed that clip to do that.

Like, for years, we've been telling y'all now that Candace Owens ain't the worst.

Shit, I'm not.

You told me?

Yeah, you told it.

Yeah, why y'all needed this video to do that?

This is what I, yeah.

I mean, like, I'm not saying that.

I'm saying, if you look at it.

You can't say it.

I don't.

I'm not saying that.

That wasn't my thought.

It's because it's conservative?

No, because it just wasn't my thought.

Yeah, she spun him for a tail.

You never fucked a Republican man.

You wouldn't go for that party.

Wait, actually,

actually.

A bunch of them, too.

Yeah, not just a lot off.

Mark, you fucked a Republican.

Yes, you have.

Not knowingly.

Okay.

But you have.

I mean, I can't.

And you found out, and then you hit again.

What does she present to be?

I've never knowingly had sex with a Republican.

Would you not?

My wife would hate that shit.

Well, no, don't do that.

Don't do that.

No, nigga, that's the out.

That's the out.

That's the out.

No, no.

In my head, I always thought that was one of your leading questions.

Like, what party is side?

Let me see your voting record.

That might be the king.

I have.

Oh, yeah.

No, in my single days, I've never...

I don't.

First of all, I don't.

You play the Bushes.

I'll play the Clintons.

Let's have it out.

Play the Bushes is crazy.

I didn't.

I don't think I've ever done it.

Because I don't know.

I've never had sex with...

No, I've never had sex with a black.

Whoa, wait, no, I was gonna say, we got sex with a black woman.

Are you good?

What you say?

I'm great.

What I was gonna say is, I've never had sex with a black Republican, and I don't have sex with white women.

And I don't have sex with white women.

So

the odds are slim.

You know what I'm saying?

Because I would have to be like, yeah.

So maybe a Spanish Republican.

No.

No, I was saying,

you've never had sex with a white woman in your life?

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying I didn't do it on a regular basis.

I could count on one hand.

Mark, you know what's funny about that?

Mark.

Yeah, 46 years, yes.

I can count on one hand, though.

I identify with you.

Yeah.

This room

and the guys in this room don't seem to be able to compute that.

Yeah,

because we just have to be honest.

He's lying.

So we just let him.

He's not like he never has.

He's saying it's rare, few and far between, right?

I've been saying for years that's not my thing.

It's not my go-to.

It's actually more of a reason for me to turn away.

However, I've slept with white women in my life.

These guys make that to be

just.

Yeah, I can think of two, actually.

No, because you downplay this shit like it's only been like one of the things.

What about it?

Check you, nigga.

You downplay it really, really, really, really low.

Because your thing is.

I can count it on one hand.

You said you go.

I can count it on one hand.

And then you forgot to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You'll say you know what?

You want one to last white.

You got five fingers on a hand.

Yes.

You're like five, ten, it's two hands.

15, 20, 25.

No, no.

At worst case, let's say that they're right, and I've slept with seven white women.

I've been fucking since I was 16 years old.

Right.

Seven.

I'm 45.

You hit a rough ass.

If you fuck with seven, if you fuck seven white girls, that doesn't say to me.

You fuck white girls.

Yeah, that's it.

That's it.

And for me, I think the number is two.

It might be three.

Like, it's, you know what I'm saying?

She said she was mixed, but in retrospect.

Since she was Puerto Rican.

Yeah, no.

In retrospect, she was lying.

She was green party anyway, right?

Speaking of, I was 19 also.

I was 19.

I wasn't thinking about partying.

Look how young y'all was.

Yeah, speaking of fucking white women, real quick.

This is not on our topic board, but it just came to my mind because we talked about fucking white women.

We've already reviewed the Billy Joe dock.

Okay.

Let's see where this is going.

However,

Billy Joe married his best friend's wife.

Wife.

Yes.

And not just married.

Fell in love with.

They was really soulmates.

She really took his career.

Road manager.

She took his career and the Ramones.

Did the best friend die?

No, no, he's in the dock.

He's in the dock.

Hey, hey, and to take it a step further in the great words of you,

after he punched him in his face and years passed, he forgave him.

Peace to mind.

And they began to speak again.

Well, because they got divorced.

Yeah, but I'm curious where that fell.

No, he got sick and then he helped him.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Billy Joe got sick.

That was fire.

He was.

You fucked my wife, took my wife from me.

And when you got sick, when nobody was there for you, I was able to forgive you enough to come over there and save your life.

Better man than me.

But that's not where the white girl conversation brought me to.

Right after that, because I was in bed blown away by that.

And then, not even 30 minutes later, they introduced Christy Brinkley.

Oh, yeah.

Who was one of the finest hot pieces of white ass around.

1989, yeah.

And that was his new girlfriend.

Yeah.

Bagged him.

The Lord passed down.

That's it.

That's fire.

Yeah.

Billy Joe.

That was Billy Joe, man.

For the longest time.

Billy Joe and Christy Brinkley.

Yeah.

I don't know if I ever knew that before, but watching it

as an adult.

I didn't know that.

But

Christy Brinkley.

Yo, they were doing some sports illustrated, had all the high models around.

He came in with this piano man game.

It worked.

All the bad

model bitches surrounded him, started rubbing his nipples and shit.

So now Billy Joe was saying, yo, I know I'm this

ugly leprechaun piano man that has no business with this lady, but

here we are.

And she went and got advice from somebody saying, yo, I'm with this little ugly nigga.

What am I supposed to do?

And they was like, listen, you'll find this fine men everywhere, but if you love him and he's a good man, then stay there.

And then they really stayed together.

Yeah,

talk about it.

Man, make some noise for bagging a fine white piece of ass Christie Brickley.

Makes a noise for for bagging a fine white piece of ass Christy Brinkley.

I can see her being a problem.

You handle man your way into it.

Christy Brinkley in the 80s.

That's the other part.

Because I'm not old enough, I always, I know Billy Joe and I know his cattle,

but I learned it.

The Billy Joe doc said to me, Billy Joe started falling off like when I was born.

Yeah, that was the end of his run.

Like

80 to 83.

A lot of the artists that we speak about today in the highlight, they had that moment of falling off and having to catch themselves back.

Yeah, I just didn't know his

falloff wasn't the best.

High-off whatsoever.

Not at all.

But I just didn't know how he was killing shit before I got to the earth.

Oh, yeah.

Every time they said, and we'll move on this because we did this already.

Falling off to the River of Dreams and shit.

It was not a bad, you know.

There were worst falloffs.

Right.

Every time they said, yo, this was the biggest selling album that Atlantic ever did, the very next album

broke it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A man selling 5 million records in the the 70s.

Your label never sold that for any artist anywhere.

That's an insane number.

That's an insane number.

That's when nobody, your label never did it before.

Word.

And I'm playing the piano.

And I turned down Elton John's band.

I went and got some hood niggas from New York.

I went and got some.

Guys.

Yo, I really resonated with that Billy Joel story.

And we can move on.

We can move on.

Let's move on.

Speaking of record sales.

There's been some

internet fireworks.

Let's do it.

In the last EBITDA.

We waited long enough.

We did.

Yes, yes.

You don't think they made it to this part of the podcast?

No, they're still listening.

Oh, okay.

Oh, they listening.

But I know they were listening.

Like, these motherfuckers didn't even get to the hottest topic.

Oh, no, I wasn't talking about our fans.

I was talking about the people in question.

They have to get a circle.

Well, they're going to finally get clipped.

Yeah, they're going to find

time steps.

The Clippers.

So, as we know, Cardi B has put out

an album.

It had a great first week, over 200K.

Impressive number.

Lots of records broken, et cetera.

Good music.

And excellent music.

I listened to that over the weekend in the car.

I liked it even more than the first time.

I got to say.

It's a really good album.

It's a really good album.

It really is.

It's a great album.

It's a good album.

It's a great album.

Over that time, there have been some Nikki fans.

And shout out to Nikki Minaj.

I love both of them.

Nikki Minaj fans who have said that some of the records that are being kind of put out

are misleading and that Nikki still is at the top of the heap, et cetera.

That's been a fan battle back and forth.

Anyway, we all know last week, Nikki Minaj posted her,

what we think is an album release.

They picture of a CD and a date, 326.

32726.

Some people said that was trying to step on Cardi's

pub and all of that.

Anyway, beyond that, last night, at the time of this recording, Nikki tweeted a cryptic message, somewhat cryptic.

She said, to every enabler, never provoke a writer while they're writing.

You join the game as a willing participant.

Don't try to back out now.

32726.

Hashtag rock bottom nation.

Hashtag rock inflation.

Hashtag Rico Nation.

You failed.

Let the reindeer games begin.

We hashtag win again.

Now that went up.

The internet was buzzing.

And before

the internet could even get a full conversation about it, Cardi B clapped right back.

And she tweeted a few things.

She tweeted, you must have missed me, huh, crazy?

Now kiss my feet.

Then she followed with another thing.

She said, nothing more annoying than a board B-I-T-C-H.

h you just said a bitch no she didn't write it i'm saying she put b

yeah yeah yeah i would say it in that context she just didn't say

some bit

i don't use the word but i have no problem saying it reading it like in context read a bitch my bitch right

and so then but it didn't stop there y'all cardi then went to the direct comparisons between her and nikki and said why you keep bringing up my album It's not the gag you think it is.

You've been in the game like 16 years.

You need to compare yourself to your peers that started around your time.

Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Drake.

Those are the numbers you need to be competing with, and you can't because you're doing lower than all of them.

I was in high school when you came out.

WTF, is you comparing yourself to me for.

Now, I'm just going to give y'all the rest of this and then we can talk about it.

Nikki took it up a notch.

She took it further.

It no longer was about the music.

She took it a little more personal.

And she said, Raw dog and pregnant with the fourth baby,

Barney BPV,

HPV.

All right, no, no.

I don't like your Nicki Minaj voice at all.

No, she's putting a lot.

No, these are her putting extra Y's at the end of the words.

This isn't a person.

I just don't like that.

But we don't like Mark Minaj.

Mark Minaj is a voice.

Mark Minaj voice is okay.

I apologize.

Well, that's y'all read it with all the extra.

No, try it again.

Try it again.

No, no, no.

What we're also saying is

this stuff is too nasty to be really personal.

Yeah.

It's really nasty.

It's really outside of music and anything that we cover as a podcast.

I understand that it's hot and juicy.

All of the girls are fighting.

It will continue to get

hotter and juicier.

Once y'all start talking about fertility doctors,

check me out.

For fairness to folks.

Check me out of this.

For fairness to Nikki, I won't read the last tweet, but Cardi did respond and accuse her of infertility and blaming different factors for infertility.

So people don't say, I didn't read Cardi's last guy.

No, I'm not sure.

The things that they are slinging about each other and to each other, I want no part of.

It takes away from my excitement even about them being adversaries.

Well, that's the thing.

I love a good competition.

I love a good beef.

I love a good.

Hit what you're saying.

I can understand our stance on that as men, right?

Just butting into women's arguments and conversations.

The mud slinging ain't no different from what Drake and Kendrick was doing.

It is different.

Not to me.

Throwing around pedophilia and all that stuff.

But it is different if we are to believe that those brothers had a conversation at some point.

Okay.

I was thinking about it.

Because a little bit different when you're talking about

something.

Yes.

But the contents of that conversation,

right?

Like

some people say that they offered to fight.

Some people say that.

So when I'm listening to this Nikki Cardi shit, that's the difference between women mudslinging and men mudslinging.

And men mudslinging,

this is just going to get to a fight at some point.

With women

or that for the bitch niggas.

Said a lot.

Or that.

Here's our clip.

Hey, why?

Who's on?

They don't know about it.

What happened?

Nothing.

Is somebody that's a bitch nigga?

I was asleep.

I don't know.

I don't give a fuck.

It's more suits.

I don't know.

Go ahead.

I don't give a fuck.

What I'm saying is the girls before they get to fist the cuffs are going to get really personal first.

Guys might not do that.

We're getting right to this fight.

When I see you, we're going to fight.

That's it.

Women,

you had to go see doctors.

You can't have a baby.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, they do a lot.

All right.

You got it.

They subscribe.

That's out of my ministry.

If you go low, I take it that way.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, in fairness, Cardi, I mean, if I understand the reports correctly, and I could be wrong, y'all correct me if I'm wrong.

There was an attempt to fight years ago before all this happened, right?

Didn't Cardi run up on her?

Through a shoe, a shoe was thrown.

Yeah, but that was after people were held back.

I'm not.

I'm not thinking, I don't have a side of this.

I don't want to.

But what Joe is saying, men will,

you come without your people, I come without my people.

We go over here and we do what we got to do.

No, what I'm saying is, it seemed like

they're not going to do it.

They're not doing that.

You don't have to do that.

Whatever happened at Matt Gala, unless they're at the same strip club together somewhere, and even then, that's not going to happen.

Cardi has people on her side.

Nikki has people on her side.

Those two people are never going to fight.

Got you.

So we're just going to say the nastiest things we could possibly say.

And I don't, I don't

fight.

Like, Cardi's Cardi's talking about Nikki's whole family.

That's out of my ministry.

Like

it takes my excitement out of it if we're not going to get bars and y'all going to just be below the belt.

Yeah, I didn't like it.

Even when they were going back and forth about record sales and judge yourself against your peers and all that, whether I agree or disagree.

Now that's where I want to.

That's where I want to be.

To me, that's the conversation that I want to be a part of.

Once you start getting into people's bodies and babies and fertility and health and all that stuff.

And before we get to that record sale part, I would like to hear what y'all have to say about what Cardi is saying about who Nikki's peers are.

What do y'all think about that portion in Mark Rad?

About,

I think she's correct.

Rihanna, Drake, Taylor, those are the people you came out with.

Why are you even looking at me who came from a much later class?

What do y'all think about that?

I think she's correct in certain ways.

And I also think that she's kind of now using that to kind of

not have to live up to that same legacy because you want to compete with Nikki.

You've been doing things to compete with Nikki, whether you've said it out your mouth or not.

You are doing things she did.

You do want to be her peer.

For me, before I get to that,

I know that Nikki's last album did something like 220.

28 and Cardi did 200.

199.6.

If you let them tell it,

well, we gotta get to that.

That's it.

We're in the same ballpark, is all I'm saying.

Like, it's not like one is blowing the other person out the water.

It doesn't seem like a fight,

but it's worth having.

But

it, it, no, no, because when they have, you know how it is, it's the internet.

We keep the files.

Uh-huh.

So they immediately pulled up the spaces, the recording of her telling them, y'all going to be sharp.

Cardi, telling, y'all going to be crying when I drop because I'm out selling chicks.

I'm out hitting y'all.

Y'all are going to be crying.

All y'all that want me to fail.

Almost everybody.

But not the one that you're talking about.

Oh, you only did.

You just talking about Nikki.

It's been them two.

All the little, everybody else that's in this mix is because i want one side or the other when did cardi say that on spacers i don't i get the date that's one

two

i understand the fan base highlighting hey you didn't pass that 200k mark but also though the first first week in hip-hop has been overblown for a while this is about life of the project it also gets really confusing when both their projects had singles that were out way before the project comes in and now there's projected sales getting added i don't know what the fuck is it's different when one is coming off a six, seven, eight, nine, ten times platinum project, which is Cardi.

Like, I've seen the number reported different,

but I've never seen it reported lower than six.

So you sold six million records.

It's safe.

You could say, but you could say that.

Now, if you said that, which you did, Nikki can say, up, bitch,

199.6, guess you didn't do it.

I'm still the only one in my class.

I think Cardi shouldn't even speak

to having to lean into that.

We're not peers.

You guys are peers at this point.

We view you as peers, whether it be on an artistic level or not.

You guys are fighting the same fight.

That's how I view it.

So when she said that, it was kind of like trying to relinquish yourself from the competition that you've already participated in.

You and Nikki are obviously the two women that we look at as the top two to even have to consider who's the queen of hip-hop at the moment.

Stop it.

It is.

Stop it.

Even though I don't personally, I don't have to.

Who else do we consider in that conversation?

There's nobody.

I don't want to get a talk.

If I'm Nicki Minaj, I don't want anyone to shit yourself.

I'm just going to say there is no competition.

If I'm Nicki Minaj, you can't say that around me.

And

I don't want to present that side of the argument because I'm not picking a horse in the middle.

Right now,

right now, I'm not.

I understand both sides.

And to the people that was confused when Mona was here, me saying I'm in both hives, it's because I'm from New York.

Like, I don't know what the fuck you internet kids is doing out there.

I'm from New York, nigga.

Cardi's from the Bronx and Nikki's from Queens.

I'm from New York.

Yeah.

I'm for New York.

And I'm from neither.

I'm from Philly.

And for me, it's.

You like Bahamadea and Jade, what's her name and all of them?

Miss Jade, shout out to Miss Jay.

Miss Jade, I love Ms.

Jade.

Miss Jay, I can't do that.

I'm misrepresenting Miss Jade.

I love Miss Jade.

Thanks for it.

And shout out to Bahamadea, one of the greats, too.

But

my point is, as an outsider, I don't want to feel like I have to choose between them anymore than I don't want to choose between Kendrick and Drake.

I may have preferences, but this idea that you got to pick a side to me is wow.

And I hate the way the moment now is like, if you say anything about Cardi, it must mean you anti-you anti-Nikki or vice versa.

And us as broadcasters, if we offer a criticism of Cardi,

then we'll

pick a side.

We love those moments.

We've enjoyed it in every part of his thing.

It's a hip-hop thing.

It's a hip-hop-hop thing.

I don't like that it's getting this nasty and dirty, but when we had the Jay and Nas moment, we felt like we had to pick a side.

I don't think with Jay and Nas, we had to pick a side the same way.

People picked.

I didn't pick a picture.

It's just the internet.

The internet anti-vibes all this shit.

That's what it is.

That's all it is.

With Jay and Nas, like, people pick sides.

They did.

But you didn't have to pick a side.

With Cardi and Nikki's Number Phillies, you have to pick a side.

Almost like with Drake and Kendrick.

Like, you have to pick a side.

That's the shit I heard.

Wherever I was at, we were still playing Nas and Jay-Z all that time.

And my little jersey was still playing.

You might say Nas 1 or Ho 1, but you still.

We're playing both.

We were bumping Stilmatic and there was no way for you to love hip-hop and not play both.

This new option didn't exist back then.

Yeah.

This new, what the hives are doing and what the fans are doing,

this separatism shit is new.

Internet shit.

Social media shit.

Not just internet.

It's social media shit that forces people, the sheep, to feel like I gotta pick one side.

And if I'm on this side, I can't fuck with it.

But the artist is playing into it too.

Of course.

Because

they're not a weaponizer.

Their fan base in a certain way.

Over their music is too fire for you to really stand on one side of the fence.

Guess what?

Guess what's happening to March?

Nikki's coming with heat.

Guess what's happening right now?

That Cardi shit is heat.

Yeah.

Both are going to have a fire tour.

Both going to go ahead.

You say a lot.

You say a lot of things

that if I'm a barb, I don't want to hear none of that shit.

But you got to hear it.

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

Why do you do not have to hear that?

You've never toured.

You've done nothing.

You're going to prove that you can be in this conversation.

I'm speaking about you like you in the same breath as me.

You've never toured.

You're going out with 900 artists.

You're doing all types of bundle shit.

I went domestic and international

and sold out everywhere.

I don't want to hear that hot shit you are.

So you want me to pick this out at this point now?

So I can't view Nick, because we went to Nikki's show and Nikki's show is amazing.

Fire.

I now can't go to a Cardi show, whether she did a tour before, and consider it a fire show.

If it's a fire show, I'm not about to say that.

That's a totally different conversation.

That's not what we're saying.

That's all I'm saying.

If the Cardi Show is fire, I'm going to come in here and say, yo, that shit was absolutely crazy.

Yeah.

That's not what we're saying.

That's not.

We're saying that you saying they're going to both want to go on tour and have a fire tour.

Okay, no, no, until you see one of them do it, I get that.

We can't keep saying that they both are the same,

and we've seen the same thing.

And they want to do everything.

That's not what I'm saying.

Nobody said they were the same, Joe.

If you say that we're both going to go on tour and put on a fire show, and one person has never went on tour and put on a fire show, then what are you saying?

We don't know that she's not on the show.

You don't have to go to the fire show.

We don't know that.

That's based on nothing.

You just being positive.

Okay.

Come on, nigga.

You can say, I hope she put on a fire show, but you don't.

She has no track record of putting on a fire show.

Let's get into the semantics of what you guys are saying.

Yeah, you know what they're doing.

And on top of that, she's toilet that you just said she sold.

I'm assuming you're going to tell me records.

Yes, I'm assuming.

I'm assuming that she will, based off of the music that she has, based off of the relationship, based off of a crowd, a big part of what's going to make that tour fire is the crowd and how they come to show up for her.

So, yes, I'm assuming on the Cardi side.

With Nikki, we've seen it.

They're talking about performance-wise.

And putting on the actual show.

Cool.

I'm saying that.

You know what's going to make them shows different too?

You tricked me into having this talk now.

Bro.

friend groups

friend groups and features

and you was at the nikki show with me so when she wasn't out there and the dj was out there the same shit could be fire amazing they took you on a trip

from when you was 18 i see what he's saying he's doing 13

you know who the hottest crews were last decade She was affiliated with them.

I think Cardi's feature game is A1, but they're newer acts.

And not just that.

It's Rob49.

It's JT.

It's Glorilla.

It's Kaylani.

It's Lotto.

Yeah, she got Bruno Lars features too.

Yeah, like Yaks.

That ain't.

I'm talking to hip-hop.

I'm talking about going to a hip-hop show and somebody playing hip-hop slaps for three hours.

Absolutely.

You are correct.

There's nothing to say.

The conversation isn't.

And Cardi shows should be.

The conversation isn't who's going to have a better show.

Because at this point, that's not my conversation.

Put on a good show.

Good shows.

A good show.

To me, at this point, if Cardi can do that on top of already dropping a great album there's a there's no conversation that we need to have as far as comparing but we can at least say she's doing her part I want a record with these two I would love to I would love for that but I don't want people to think I'm just uh up here perpetuating violence right I the the the the the end all to this is them holding the blue and red flag up in the air and doing records

Lotto came up on that fucking Everytime Remix.

And if Nikki comes on the third verse of that, that's fine.

Motorsport, that shit is fire.

any song that either one of them do you can hear the other one come right behind them maybe not now maybe in five years if everybody's still here and alive we don't know we get another fucking thug and Luchi shit or something life is long

a feature swap yeah

but that's down the line but again not well if men if they could come back from that because I'm about to say his lines crossed my Nikki you could still come back my Nikki critique is when you come be direct

when you come be direct don't give us all these tweets like you about to smack the shit out of bitches or like this tracks is coming or like you about to answer on your album and then when your album come it's just the hits and and we rack it a little subtle little subtle be direct you know what where cardi is winning at being direct that's a fact hey

directors too fuck you bitch

hey you i ain't thinking about you bitch fuck you

nikki

making with her and making shit she was she was very direct so i was

aware there's been mixed reviews about that diss track version

If you're being direct, part of being direct is how we receive.

Cardi wasn't very direct with the shots that we think were at Nikki on the album.

Yes, you want to what?

I disagree with that.

She didn't say her name.

Yes, you're right.

I totally disagree.

Some of y'all out there talking about some Akbar.

The very next bar says, hey, every trip you take with your nigga, you paying for it.

None of y'all have seen Akbar on a trip with her nigga.

What are y'all talking about?

What do you I follow Akbar?

I follow Nikki.

I follow Cardi.

Where are the trips that Akbar is on where the world is saying, hey, your nigga picked up?

Yo, don't beat me down with internet takes, yo.

I know hip-hop.

Some of y'all don't.

I know hip-hop.

I know the fuck somebody talking to hit.

Joe, you know,

she gets subliminal.

She talked directly.

No, because the internet is not a drink.

Subliminal is not direct.

Hey, no, she's talking to Akbar.

Joe.

Yo, don't waste my time.

Subliminal is not direct.

Don't say anything.

Go ahead and say, be direct.

Shut the fuck up.

Don't do that.

You're already talking about it.

You're talking to Akbar.

I know.

I know she was.

You got it.

He wow.

I hate the internet.

No, he's screaming, B direct.

Right.

No, you can't use an example as a subliminal.

She's subliminal.

Joe was saying

he knows exactly who she was talking to.

I think what y'all are saying and not.

He knows.

Being vague and direct.

And what I'm saying, what y'all are saying is that's still not a direct hit the way

cardio B was where you literally say diarrhea B.

I mean, there's no confusion about that.

Yeah, but she could also feel comfortable doing that because she might not think Bia is someone who can match up to her

level.

Right?

But you ain't going to do that with Nikki because you know if you do that with Nikki and you get that direct.

Why is she not going to do that with Nikki?

Because Nikki is

the top of the top rapper.

She ain't showing nobody that her diss track is something to run away from.

I'm saying that.

That she did was it so.

That's where they're getting that from.

I'm not saying that about Nikki.

I love Nikki.

When the Remy track came out, you were there.

You know what was said.

The mag track, like, you know what's being said.

Say what you want about Cardi.

The diss hits.

It do.

When she diss, it hits.

Hey, in Park's old crib, he used to have a dart shit, the dart shit in the kitchen.

Sometimes we used to go up there.

Bullseye.

Sometimes, because Park's from practice more, he go up there, bullseye.

Bong.

Sometimes it hit the mark, nigga.

Sometimes you go to shoot somebody, that's the person that died.

That's the run Nick Cardi is on.

I'm telling you something.

That's the run she on.

Any bitch I target with my crew, my team, not my writers,

them motherfuckers get hit.

So

if Nikki is going to do it, I'm just saying do it.

If you're going to do it, do it.

End the bitch.

End it.

You dope enough and powerful enough to where if you don't want to hear from her no more, you could put another eight years on top of the seven she's going to put on herself and we'll never hear from Cardi B again.

Nah, I don't think she could do that.

I'm going to say that.

Shit.

I don't think she could do that.

Not by herself, but it wouldn't be by herself.

See, part of being a rapper is knowing when to align and who to align.

You're pregnant, you've had a baby every year, the label might be off you you took an eight seven year break on your own like all i gotta do is come add be an additive which we know she know how to do because the whole nikki and meek relationship she said yo he's always an added to him and we saw it it worked she knows how to add nikki's a brilliant yo she looks like she looks right now but nikki is brilliant And Cardi's, if she's not brilliant, she has brilliant people around.

I'm going to say she's brilliant because I've seen where she started and where she's at.

They both brilliant.

Yeah, you don't just get that.

They both brilliant.

That ain't people.

They both are brilliant thinkers.

They both run in their careers.

Squash it and give us some music, or one of y'all kill the other one like fucking Dolph Lundran and Apollo.

We don't need all these girl rappers.

So if there's not a world where both can exist, but not have to.

We've seen that world.

We've seen that world already.

What did it do?

We've seen that world.

I got my Bodak yellow and I got my classic first Cardi album, and Nikki is Nikki.

So you got the

decade-plus run of

that.

I'm interested in her set list on this tour.

That's all I want to see.

That'll tell me a lot.

I said way more on this topic than I wanted to.

I know.

I'm glad.

Actually,

I wanted to see.

Before we spoke on this part, we said, yo, it's too messy.

Let the girls be the girls.

We don't want to talk about this at all.

But we was just going to talk about the sales part.

And we mainly did.

I mean, we didn't get into the.

I mean, there are other.

You left the nasty show.

That's the other space that we're going to definitely.

You hear what she said?

What do you think?

We ain't getting emotional.

I think it's responsible to report that it wasn't just a sales beef, that it got personal and nasty.

We reported it and we know.

No, these two artists deserve to be.

I mean, even though we might not want to highlight.

But it's a hip-hop moment.

Now, some of the stuff that's going along with it are some nasty shit.

But at the end of the day, it's two premiere acts in hip-hop who are slugging it out.

And like you said, we would like to see y'all go.

If y'all going to go that route, go music route.

Let us be able to judge based off of the music that you guys are putting out.

If one person is saying you're not that talented and the other person is saying, well, why you even compete?

Go ahead.

Do it musically in the sound.

Rap.

And the word.

Gina Views.

Good.

I know both.

Her tour is right after she drops the baby.

I'm curious to see how does that, you know.

It starts in what, what, February, right?

Yeah.

I'm curious to see how does that affect her.

Nikki's in March.

Dropping.

So

listen, that's the moment when we start to see what happens.

It's right there.

Blow.

That's the other difference.

See, Nikki knows the power, impact, and effects of the Barbs.

Of course.

I don't know that Cardi has that with her game.

Only because she hasn't toured yet, is what I'm saying.

I think every female.

Tour is when you see it.

Getting them out of the game.

I think every female rapper.

I think that's a good thing.

Honestly, every female rapper should go sit and watch a Nikki show.

I think it's a show.

That should be a requirement as far as if you want to go ahead and be a part of this game in that type of level.

Nikki's show is, forget just the stage, just the experience itself with the way she curates her fan base and how much they feel like they are a part of her.

That shit is amazing to watch.

That's like Artist 101.

If you are a female artist trying to make it as a female rapper, not just female.

I get that, of course.

But I'm just saying that.

That show was so good.

That's when Imani dubbed that Big T white bitch that was on his body.

Yeah, I couldn't even pay attention to her.

Yeah, that's a Nikki.

Nikki put on a great show.

She was on you, too.

Double five.

You to what?

Nah, nothing.

They didn't come up when you talk about me and white women.

You're not in the big titty white girls, aren't you?

You're not in the big titties.

I like them, but I've never seen you with like a big titty joint.

Bust it to the slim gym.

Slim joints, right?

Not like Fat Ashes.

For real?

Well, but of late, I've been liking more petite.

Yeah.

You've been slimming.

You've been slim to be a bitch.

You've been snacking into a slim gym.

You've been snacking into a slim gym for a little bit.

You've been on a slim slim for a little bit.

I've been slim into a slim gym.

I've seen you.

Of late.

Because it's.

Of late.

This slime ain't fire, nigga.

He's been on the slim for a while.

You titty fucking?

I had a plane quickly.

You good, bro.

It's not a go-to-do.

Pat, what year is the past?

When's the last time I gave a little...

And while you think I'm going to think about 2018.

Like 2018.

Yo, we don't want to hear your story.

We don't want to hear you.

2018 was like the last little...

I don't titty about my girlfriend.

Don't talk about that.

Yo, Joe, you can't just

talk about that.

I ain't titty folks since like 99, nigga.

Oh, okay.

Like, seriously, that shit, I haven't figured out how to do it.

Not be awkward.

Titty fucking is mad pointless.

I've never done it successfully.

Because it's not a physical thing.

It's supposed to be, though.

No, it's not.

Them niggas supposed to come from that shit.

He's trying to get his shit off.

No, they are.

Yeah, you're right.

I get it.

You're trying to get your offset.

I have an educator talk with me.

I'm trying to.

The guys are coming from that.

Yes, but I also, do you know that coming is not always attached to just the physical?

It's combined of the visuals.

You get a a mental.

Oh, you want them niggas that be coming in the closet off of

the fucking salty.

Off of Polaroid.

This nigga be coming.

All right, we got it.

It's a mental thing.

You get the mental pictures with the wind blow.

Hey, we got you.

Talk to women more, man.

They'll tell you that these are the things that get them off.

I'm not going to be an adult, titty fucking.

That's how you do it.

Sorry.

I wish there was a way to transition out of the smoothie.

Yeah, I don't know.

I'm just going to move on.

Speaking of titty.

You do that shit?

Like, in your day?

Occasionally.

Yeah.

And when's the last time?

To the Republicans too?

Or just the Democrats?

Republican titty fucking is crazy.

Which I also think should be the title of this episode, but.

I thought that too.

Republican titty fucking.

Sometimes circumstances,

sometimes circumstances, that's you got fewer options on a given night.

And sometimes that'd be the option.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

I see what you're talking about.

I'll follow.

I'll follow.

Yeah, I see what you're taking.

Just can't titty fuck an ugly girl.

Shit.

Well, I'm not into it, period, but why not?

Because as you're doing it and you're looking down, you got to see her.

You got to see her face.

Well, she got great titties.

Ugly girls be having great tits, though, sometimes.

I know.

So you just do like Stevie wonder.

You just got to not look up.

Over join.

If you need a bigger

castle of love.

Mark, you have something else, yo.

I do.

Anything else would work right now, but a quick Diddy update.

shit.

Fucking the Diddy.

City to Diddy.

City to Diddy.

I don't see how he won potter the month, bro.

You was doing that all September.

Yo,

when you pod at a high level, you have to do some other shit to win.

After a while, they get tired.

They normally get it.

You get tired of your greatness.

Exactly.

Oh, because you think so.

So

tell me about it.

No, I got to.

Tell me.

I understand your position now, because then what happens is somebody comes out of the, you know, someone wins the prize, gets on the floor.

Or maybe y'all just limiting what potting looks like.

Maybe y'all think it's just talking.

Maybe there's a whole other thing that goes into potting that can make this more entertaining for what?

I don't know.

Maybe dancing, a little singing, maybe a little bit.

Entertaining.

Just, you know, say shuffle.

Whatever.

A little shuck and/or jive.

Look, whatever works.

Massage coming back.

Oh, then you, did you go get it again?

Yeah, if he jumped.

I ain't doing that.

I'm not doing that.

So, Diddy

is, as we know, at the end of this week, facing sentencing.

The prosecutor in New York

reportedly, at the time of this broadcast, I'm going to to say this again, reportedly at the time of this broadcast, according to multiple news sources, has said that the prosecutor requested

11 years.

Now,

some people have said, and we have not confirmed this yet, that the prosecutor is asking for 11 years, but that much of it be on probation, but still wants a sentence of 11 years.

Others have suggested that the prosecutor wants a full 11 years in prison.

It is unclear which, but the very idea of saying that you should be convicted of 11 years for this this is the thing that people are talking about right now.

And that conviction would be towards the crime of prostitution.

Or soliciting prostitution.

Okay.

And this is, again, where it gets complicated.

One of the things that the prosecutor has pointed out is the

victim impact statements.

One of the victim impact statements comes from Cassie.

It is a very,

very,

very powerful letter.

Really?

It is hard to read it and not be affected by it, to not be saddened by it, and to not feel for her in every way.

Victim impact statements really do impact judges' decisions, and I can't imagine that this one won't.

The question people have to ask, though, I think, is how do you weigh the impact that this person had on a victim that no one disputes when that's not the thing they were prosecuted for?

That's what I was going to hear.

And that's the moral and ethical dilemma.

So if you, because she's talking about all the ways that Diddy controlled her, all the ways that even when she When Diddy asks the question, it's really a demand and an order and she knew how to read his moods and she knew how to say she wanted to do X because he was demanding Y and she knew the punishments that were coming from it and of course everyone has seen this video.

The prosecutor also talked about the fact that or suggested that Diddy's actions are consistent with people who got 10 or 11 years in prison.

So when you look at all of that you have to again you have to ask yourself what is the right way to judge Diddy's appropriate sentence.

I don't have an answer for you guys.

That's for us to discuss, but I think that's at least the thing we need to think about.

And I don't think it's as cut and dry

either way.

I'm going to say something because whatever I'm going to say, I'm probably most likely going to get shitted on for.

So y'all go ahead.

No, I think as Potters,

we should not do that.

We should either say it or not say it.

But in since you saw it, I'm going to still say it.

That's him trying to build suspense for what he got to say on some people.

Shut the fuck up, man.

Oh, he's trying to.

Yeah, he's trying to come up with a bunch of people.

I'll let niggas speak.

You know what I got to say?

I can't say that real shit.

Shatter it.

That nasty shit.

Come on, Steve.

We should still nasty, though, boy.

Calm down, Mr.

October.

He's nasty.

Yo, when you win one season, the other teams get the footage.

Yeah, we're watching your players.

You get to watch the brave.

Yeah, yeah, they put two defenders on you.

We're too focused on me at this moment.

It's making a little lesson.

Let's focus on that.

You made it.

I'm not about saying that fucking statement.

Well, because I wanted to hear y'all out before I said anything.

So, what you're saying is, we weren't too focused on you, and you made it about you.

Ooh.

Good playback.

I got a fucking ball.

Or maybe I was being a team player and passing the ball.

Being a team player is not saying that.

I meant to say what I'm saying.

I meant to say team.

It's just a bad thing.

Just let a nigga lie.

No, we're trying to let a nigga lie.

No, we want to hear what you got to say.

Come on, Mr.

Toby.

What you got to say?

You don't even got to say that.

Morally, I agree with her victim impact statement should be considered, right?

Morally.

But he's not on trial for that at the moment.

Whatever she's speaking to in that.

Mark just said that.

It don't matter.

They'll clip it up.

Let me know.

Mark just said that.

Let me add.

It's a second place potter, though.

Let me say something.

Yo, you still on your take from the second place?

You think that's wise?

I'm still playing dirty with that shit.

Yo, boy.

I think

it would be a horrible statement to convict a man

with 11 years for prostitution.

If that's what he was convicted for, and that is the crime that we are speaking to, we're not talking to about anything else morally, anything else that we've seen, because all that shit we've seen, we thought was disgusting.

We still think it's disgusting.

You know what he's convicted?

Well, I'm speaking to the law.

The law, right?

So he was convicted of prostitution.

I don't think anybody up here would want to sentence someone to 11 years in jail for prostitution.

Here's what the prosecutor will say to you.

Did you fuck one of my prosecutors?

Nah, you gave him all this.

All right.

See?

Here's what the prosecutor will say to you.

Part of what we have to determine is a person's ability to go back into society, a person's threat to society.

That's what they would say to you.

And that if this person is known for physically attacking people, for averting the law, for doing all these things that we might know factually,

even based on Diddy's own and his lawyer's own testimony during the trial, yeah, I did these things, I'm fucked up, but that's not what I'm on trial for.

That's the argument, right?

Should that impact, the prosecutor would say that should impact the sentencing because this person's not ready to go back right up.

This person doesn't deserve to get right back into society because of all the harm that we know they're going to do based on what they did last month, last year, last decade, et cetera.

I'm not saying I agree with that, but that's just, I'm just saying there's an, I don't think it's cut and dry.

I'm inclined, so people don't say, I don't give a take.

My suggestion is people should not be prosecuted or sentenced more harshly because for crimes that they weren't convicted for.

That's my general rule.

Because the system has to be fair.

Because while we might hate what Diddy did and hate Diddy, that could also be used for somebody else.

That could be used for our uncles and our cousins and our aunties and our sisters when they get

a relatively minor crime like shoplifting, but they say, yeah, but we know they were selling drugs.

Right.

And then suddenly somebody's getting two years for a misdemeanor because of what we think or even know they were doing in the community.

The system has to be able to prove its case and meet its burden.

I don't think, to your point, that that's necessarily the moral answer.

But the law and legal ethics is not the same as morality.

And we have to make a distinction between sort of our own moral compasses and what legal ethics.

And at this point, he's no longer, well, he's no longer on trial at this point.

Everything is done.

We've already decided morally how we view Diddy.

Right.

Morally, we look at him how we look at him.

He's been on trial in that sense for us from day one.

And we kind of closed the book on that.

He's a piece of shit.

He did what the fuck he did.

We don't fuck with it.

Boom, boom.

If he was on trial for that, slap him with whatever sentence you can give him because it's clear as day for us.

All this other stuff, the man act and all the things that you could not get on him and you caught him on prostitution.

Now let's go by the law.

That's the

fair way to go about this process at this point.

We have to remove our moral stance at this moment and just deal with the outcome that we got dealt with.

He did not get convicted of the Man Act.

He did not get convicted of this.

He did not get convicted.

He didn't get convicted on that.

So whatever was provided by the prosecution wasn't enough to get the law, the people who were actually his...

his jurors to convict him on that.

So we have to now move from that process.

Remove your moral feelings, remove all your personal shit.

He's going to be sentenced.

What is the fair sentencing for what he was convicted for so let me ask you a question then

how do you determine how do we determine what a fair sentence is because if there's a guideline two to ten years how do we decide who gets two and who gets two case study which is what the process

to bring up one thing they look at is this is a first-time offender as well exactly it's not many first-time offenders that you could justify giving the max to each count carries up to 10 years right so you look at they're asking for 11

i don't

a repeat offender.

Yeah, I'm with y'all piece of shit.

We saw the video

But at the same time, that's not what we convicted of we said that if the prosecution can show case study of past convictions that led to that level of sentencing and the prosecutor is saying yes cool if they can do that is the prosecutor's argument cool to be clear just for sake that is the that is the prosecutor's argument that that there are comparable cases to diddy where they did get those tenures i don't know if it's true or not but that's the prosecutor's argument to be clear i got that today uh new york post reported that.

That's what I'm reading from today.

If they can provide that, then I'm all for whatever is the end result, because at that point, then everything that you're saying as far as the other things that he might have not been convicted for or judged based on could affect him moving in society after that.

And they can show past situations where that person got 11 to whatever.

Cool.

But if that's not enough evidence to show that at this point.

And that's the hard part.

Then we have to convict and sentence him in the proper manner.

Because no two cases are the same.

So what they're going to do basically is draw a parallel between him and somebody who's probably nothing like him.

Now, you have to do that because no two situations are the same, no two people are the same.

And so, the debate probably is going to be

how comparable to Diddy

is that case study we're drawing from, or those cases that you're drawing from.

Different type of powerful man who has access to a whole nother world comparison.

So, I get it.

Who here thinks that Puff is getting 11 years or more?

No one.

I think.

This is what I think he's going to get.

I think

if he gets 11 years, it's going to be mostly supervised release and home.

They may want to put a big number on the board so they can say we sentenced him to 11 years and to keep a kind of surveillance on him, which is another thing that the state does, which again, I don't love in general, is they instead of giving you six months, they'll give you five years with four and a half suspended or whatever so that you're home, but you're always a doorstep, at the doorstep of the criminal legal system.

So that might be what they do.

So to answer your question, it would not shock me if they gave him 11 years, but he's not going to spend 11 in prison.

I think they may give him 10 years, eight and a half suspended.

He's already done a year.

He does six more months.

That's how I think it's going to look.

That's what I think is going to probably happen.

See, I can't see that.

You see it differently to me.

Is there anybody that see him coming home?

Me?

That day?

I see him walking out.

Friday?

I don't see him walking out.

I think he gets six more.

I think he's going to spend six more months.

If I were just guessing, I don't know.

And to me, that's the same as coming home.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If they got him in there for six more months and he come home in April for the summer, then and that's what I'm saying.

Ten years, eight and a half suspended, that means a year and a half left.

He did a year-time serve out in six months.

That's what I'm saying.

So that's paperwork tricks.

That's my point.

Yeah.

That way they, but it's not a problem.

It's not just paperwork tricks, though.

It's also for the next eight and a half years, we have the right to watch every move you make and any misstep.

You're trying to get you back in.

Basically trying to get you back in.

I think that's happening for the rest of his life anyway.

Yeah, period.

I think so too.

But it's even harder where you got to go in for a piss test

for the next decade.

It's even harder when they have a right to run in your career.

You just lose so many rights when you're in prison.

And when they put you out, if they parole you.

Yes, you thinking that parole is the same for everybody.

It may not be the same for anybody.

It's not.

But I think they mad that they plenty of times I walked into probation and they made me skip the fucking opposite cups for that.

I think that happens.

I'm with you, but I think

the FedPro is different.

It's a different process.

I think they may want revenge.

Yeah, I don't think that.

I think they may want revenge.

He's embarrassed.

They got egg on their face, and they don't like that shit.

So they're going to try to get a lot of people.

They're not bad about it.

He's just doing it.

They're just trying to wipe the egg off their face.

Yeah, so I don't think Joe's take is necessarily wrong.

I think it could go that way.

I'm sorry, Mark.

Yeah, please.

I'm not sure why that prosecutor was removed.

Public opinion is they have egg on their face from how you lost that case.

But that's not the word on the curb.

What's the word on the curb?

I don't know it.

I ain't saying it.

Okay, but the word on the curb is,

you can believe it.

Trump chips.

Nepotism chip, essentially.

Let's just say that.

Okay.

Because dad was already.

So, I mean, I'm just saying this is not my area of expertise, and I don't know.

More will be revealed, and that's when I'll kind of surmise, but

I just don't know.

I don't know right now,

but I don't see him doing 11 years.

And even, I agree with some of what you say.

Even if they gave it to him, they're not giving it to him.

Yeah, they're not giving it to him.

And I just turned down $50 million from this gentleman four times,

three times.

I'm getting some money from this nigga.

I'm getting some money out of him.

I'm going to get him back.

I'm going to get them back in there.

That's their plan.

A lot of people, there were some people that thought that this whole shit was just to seize some assets and gain control of some shit.

Like, my conspiracy brain is still in play, but this broadcast is too big, so I ain't going to talk about none of it.

Let me use my brain.

More will be revealed.

For sure.

Let me use my conspiracy brain for this Eric Adams thing, too.

And I don't even think it's a conspiracy at this point.

The current mayor of New York, Eric Adams, has withdrawn from the race.

He won't be pursuing re-election.

He already didn't run the Democratic primary, though he's a Democrat.

So he always was playing a kind of long shot game.

He knew he couldn't win the primary as an unpopular candidate, but he thought he might be able to win the general as an independent.

Andrew Como kind of came in and knocked him out the box with that.

Zoharan Mamdani, the Democratic nominee, is leading, but it's far from a finished.

battle.

What the Republican structure is basically doing is saying, we're going to take everybody out and make it so that everybody's voting against Mamdani as opposed to there being a field.

So, the first thing is get Eric Adams out.

Yeah.

If he's running at 5%, 6%, even whatever.

And you said that before.

Yeah.

I told you I was going to happen, right?

And he's out.

It was either him or Cuomo had to go.

Cuomo get homeboy with the little red hat out of there.

That's it.

Curtis Leewood, former Guardian Angel.

Maybe still is.

Who knows?

Get him out of there.

He's the actual Republican nominee.

Now that's it.

Let's get him back to just walking around third half

on a two-training.

They used to be deep.

Let's send him back to where he belonged.

Exactly.

Guardian Angel used to be be deep.

So that means everybody's no more, nigga.

You can jump.

Yeah.

Guardian Angels.

Niggas don't respect that shit.

No, nigga.

Nigga, please respect that red hat.

In the train station.

Like the Warriors.

Yeah.

You come out and play.

Clear for closing doors.

Niggas just get out of here.

They ain't been back down there since the crime got lit.

Yeah.

Hey, homeboy.

You can go right down there.

They killing.

Oh, man.

But there's a play here, just so y'all know, right?

So Curtis Lewa, I assume, even if he stays in the race, probably won't pull super high.

But it's hard to get Republicans to not pull the lever for the Republican.

And to get the, just the average voter who's a Republican is going to pull the Republican lever.

They're not going to pull for Andrew Cuomo Independent.

So they really need

Leewa out of there, right?

That's the thing.

But this is coming from on high.

I guarantee you, within the next month, you will see Eric Adams be appointed to something big

or something lucrative.

That's the play.

Trump is effectively pulling Adams out and trying to help Cuomo to ascend.

Yeah.

Which is wild because y'all remember during the pandemic when he Cuomo was

yeah, he was Trump's biggest enemy.

He was his nemesis.

And Trump is once again putting his thumb on the scale and

buying his opposition.

So just wait for that and then see where Curtis Lee would land.

I never thought that would be a ringtone, Corey.

Oh, go ahead.

That was change actually.

You thought that show would be

just regular shit.

He just got the...

He got the original ringtone nigga.

He's too tough to do that.

And also, we've been talking big money.

Ice.

Ice has a story about big money.

Oh, he knows someone.

Freeze won bread?

You want bread?

Oh, shit.

I thought he was going to big.

I thought he was about to go to the bottom.

Freeze.

I was like,

he's the freeze out of here, right?

Opposite day.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

Watch him.

Hey, yo.

You talk to Freeze like that?

Nah, yo, my man.

Yo, my man.

Yo, yo, yo.

Your man, yo.

Nigga with the church socks.

What is that?

Yo, man, shit.

You good?

Freeze with a church sock.

I thought, I violated it.

My man, Freeze.

I violated it.

Yo, I violated it.

Hey, my phone, Freeze.

He's at the church ankle socks.

Nah.

Yo,

they church socks.

These are not church socks at all.

Like ankle socks.

My man taking it for pop socks.

Flip out of it off on somebody.

I love that chicken for papa.

That's what it is.

I get at this nigga for you.

I'll get at this nigga.

I ain't ever thought about getting at the top of the shit.

Yo, no shit.

No.

No, because that's what you got brought here for, nigga.

What you got brought here for to talk.

You can run your fucking mouth so he can look at it.

That's what the podcast is, bro.

It's too many people talking.

No, no, no.

You got me.

You got to fry me out.

No, no, I'm not frying you out.

It's too many people talking.

I'm not going to talk over a nigga that's.

No, I'm not going to talk over you, bro.

That's fair.

All right.

So we'll all be quiet.

What topic do you want to talk about?

Nothing.

I'm gonna talk about you.

Okay.

No, no, no, no, no.

Get back to Joe.

All right, somebody has to listen to me.

I'm gonna listen.

Go ahead.

Let's get back to his socks.

I gotta keep the show on track.

Look at this nigga's socks, yo.

Don't get distracted.

Let me see these shits.

Come on.

Freeze.

Last five, freeze.

The clerks.

Hey, look at this nigga's legs.

How many times you fell off the bike, nigga?

You reaching for for anything, bro.

That nigga just thirsty over there.

Come on, get something.

At least be fucking.

Issh is not here.

That's normally the guy.

But make him good, though.

Nah, nigga.

Fuck you.

I'm corny now.

So Electronic Arts, EA, and Saul.

Oh, God damn.

Oh, fuck.

Ice, break it down.

Fuck!

He did it again.

It's good enough, but this time I'm prepared for him today.

I don't know the story.

He wrote it on the board.

I knew it was going to happen.

I'm still confused over your last Saudi Arabia story.

Oh,

I got no position on this.

I don't know the story.

I mean, the niggas, what they did.

55.

So Bill Byrne, I mean, like.

Yo, what?

Joe.

Leave it out.

Yo, please.

Joe.

Please.

But yes, back to EA.

EA was sold to Jared Kushner.

They got comedy and games.

No, they got everything, bro.

They got everything.

They coming for some other shit, too.

They coming for a lot.

For $50,000.

They got $55 billion.

They're $50 billion and went part.

Football.

They got a football league thing they're doing.

Mark, can you stop coming in here lying, though, at least?

Like, you hear what Freeze is saying?

$55 billion.

$55 billion?

Yeah, with a B.

What about it?

Anything about it?

You would start a whole news channel over there.

No.

If they came.

Are you saying that if somebody gave me $55 billion, I would take it?

Is that all I'm saying?

I'm saying that's it.

Yes, sure.

Okay.

You got me.

No, to go against your beliefs.

Oh.

It would depend on what the belief was.

Your beliefs.

You.

No, I mean, which of my beliefs?

For example.

Religious.

For example.

It was not religious.

Last part, you said the niggas was cutting Americans' ears off, so we shouldn't go do comedy.

And I don't.

It's not American ears I'm worried about, but in terms of Saudi Arabia, yes, I would not take money

from the Saudi Arabian government.

I wouldn't, no matter how big the check was.

I'm not saying in a blanket statement, because we have a gotcha culture where I'm not saying that there's no belief in the world I have that I would not that I would not take a step back on because it would depend on how intense I believe it.

For example,

I believe in free speech.

I don't think books should be banned from bookstores.

I own a bookstore.

If you gave me 50 billion fucking dollars to ban a book, yeah, I would ban the book.

Because

I could make an ethical argument that the $50 billion and what I could do with that, which is redistribute it, not keep it, would be far more...

keep a little bit.

I mean, I would keep less than a billion.

Look how much it would cost to not ban a book.

It's just, I'm just using it.

I'm just using the example.

So you said you would keep less than a billion?

Yeah, I don't believe in billionaires.

I'm not going to go to here again.

Oh, I forgot.

I forgot.

And if I don't say that, then on the oh, he said you don't believe in billionaires, but he would keep the.

It's like everything is a gotcha, right?

My point is, I am not perfect.

I am not suggesting that I don't have things that I fall short on.

In that case, in the case I just gave, I don't even think that's falling short.

I think there's a bigger principle at play.

But sometimes,

I'm sure if you ask me enough questions, you'll find contradictions.

We all got contradictions.

I don't claim not to.

What I'm saying, though, is that's a glaring one for me.

And when it came to Saudi Arabia last week, for me, the issue was, it wasn't when Mona said when she's hungry, she would, you know what I mean, she would, she might take the check for 50 or 100 or 200, right?

For me, it's some of these people are worth half a billion dollars.

You don't need the check.

You know what I mean?

And I know you're not in everybody's pocket.

Yeah, sometimes you can be.

If someone is publicly worth a half a billion dollars, I don't think it's asking them a lot to say, hey, don't take this million from a government that is literally killing people.

I agree with you.

That's all I'm saying.

I don't have no back and forth about that.

Anyway, what happened with EA Sports?

Yeah, that's all we were saying.

Yeah, shut up, Mark.

Nigga, you started it.

Just to catch you in contradictions, but if you was gonna be able to do it, he owned them.

He owned them.

You're all mature about it.

Yeah, yeah, he smoked them.

You gotta talk.

Yeah,

EA sold to Jared Kushner and Saudi Arabian group for $55 billion, which affects everything from

your video games, your Matten,

fucking

Sims.

Why does it affect it?

Why do you feel it affects it?

Well,

it's now in private company.

So it's ownership has changed hands.

So it is affected.

They could decide to do whatever with it.

Do we care?

Got you.

If you're a gamer, you do.

I don't think it's going to affect gaming at all, though, but I get your point.

It could.

It could.

Yeah.

That's all.

It just could.

Yeah.

Hopefully, it doesn't.

I hope it don't.

I mean, I still play Madden.

Me too.

I do a little 2K, a little Madden, all that stuff.

You know what I mean?

In terms of video games, I'm starting to get into it more.

Look at you taking some time off for yourself.

Yeah, it's like one hour a week, but

I brought the PlayStation to play against you.

What's up?

How do we feel about these American-bred companies like

WWE, EA Sports, like companies who are kind of bred and somewhat American culture feeling comfortable selling to these foreign government companies?

I think it was the next step yeah because just like a home just like a local company then they go national yeah now to people national ain't the ceiling no more now we want to go global unfortunately yeah and the money ain't here yeah but like at any point does the

does the culture side of what we provided get diluted once we sell over like absolutely that that's kind of what yeah the the the second you start to selling it off that's the culture's gone but a lot of people don't give a fuck about the culture I don't know if I agree with that

because what if if I started EA Sports and someone paid me $55 billion to sell said property, I might create some new culturally dope shit with the $55 billion that I had.

Yeah, but the name, like

the equity that's in EA Sports.

Let them trade it.

They say well, who gives a business?

That being slapped on, I'm just saying that culture itself.

That's a whole thing.

There's Matt and culture we speak about.

There's Sims culture that we speak about.

I get it.

That is still attached to somewhere else.

You could start something new.

You got to start from scratch.

Not saying you won't achieve it.

A little easy to do with 55 in five years.

Of course, of course, not saying you won't be successful in starting something new, but what you built here is going now.

And now it's it's they could put their flavor in it and do whatever they want to do with it, and you just stuck on the outside, like, damn, that's my baby.

You always build another one, especially with more.

I don't know, I don't know.

People say that to us type of stuff.

That shit ain't easy, yeah.

Famous Amos couldn't build up another cookie shit, man.

Well, they took the name, he couldn't use Amos.

I'm just saying,

okay, so I'm just no name.

And he did come up with another cookie, he had another cookie, yeah.

But it ain't, He went on Shark Tank and all that for it.

It didn't hit.

That's for different reasons.

He could no longer use his own name.

Yeah, he sold it.

Because

he sold the rights to his name.

But what y'all talking about happens in business all the time.

The creator of Venmo sales, go creates Cash App, the creator of this.

Look at Twitter.

We talk about Twitter all the time.

Look at Twitter.

This happens too many times for us to debate it.

And the people that leave certain companies go try to start over somewhere else, and it don't always get to what you're known for.

It don't get to that level.

So that's what separates the weak from the strong.

But whether I succeed or fail, 55B is a help.

You damn right.

Of course.

You damn right.

Jack did well.

Yeah.

Jack did super well.

Yeah.

A few times.

I was about to say he's still doing well.

It's a big difference from jumping from company to company within the U.S.

territory and all that in comparison.

How much money do you need to sell me a Patreon, man?

How much money I need to sell you my Patreon?

Yep.

As it stands right now, no more growth.

You're being funny, right?

No.

That's your shit.

You built it up.

It's strong.

I'm looking at future projections.

I'm just using this as an example.

Am I still involved with the creative process and all that?

For the next five years.

You're going to run it for the next five years.

I want to answer this on a serious way.

All right, so come ask me later.

Yeah.

Let me cast you a question on that, too.

Is there anybody you wouldn't sell it to also?

If the number is.

Charlie Kirk, before he passes away, says, I'm not your Patreon.

You know what?

You're right.

No, there are certain people I wouldn't sell it to.

Am I one of them?

Yes.

No.

No, I will sell it to you.

Okay.

You do a really good job with it.

Oh, I would.

I'd have all kinds of things to say about you.

That nigga will call up that.

Unpublished?

He called up that African couple.

Oh, man.

My people watching my

plate.

Time for another game of horseshoes.

I got another plate for us.

I watched them.

I watched them.

They was talking to some other people, too.

The lady on there, she was talking to another couple.

Yes, yeah, I went to night school, nigga.

You talk about Aspira.

Okay,

you're talking about my week that weekend show that April Silver does.

Oh my shit.

Yeah.

Just because they dark skin don't make them African.

She's from what he said.

No.

No, I'm not.

That's not me.

She's from the Bible.

No, the people I'm talking about were doing African dancers.

Yeah, he's just talking about any dark-skinned person you're talking about.

Well, that's that cultural.

I will say this.

Cultural what?

Hey, yo, y'all niggas crazy.

Are you crazy?

You're not FBA.

You're not FBA.

No, you're not FBA.

Shout out to you.

Not Adolphus.

You and I.

But hold on, listen.

Why the fuck I get in there?

Who the fuck?

Who the fuck are I getting?

You ain't got no else to pick on this though.

Oh,

and your views.

My view.

Shout out to FBI.

I fuck with FBI.

Coin tell bro.

You heard him, Mark.

He infiltrated.

Shout out to that.

Shout out to that FBI.

I fuck with him.

But what I'm saying is that I don't think any dark-skinned person is African.

That's not what I'm talking about.

All right.

That's a great input.

Okay.

Thanks.

I didn't even know you were still on that shit.

Yeah, I told you we passed it.

That's peace.

Hey, yo, Mark, you playing with me, bro.

Mark, you need to take naps.

I think you're doing great today.

You playing, playing?

I don't want any problems.

Nah, it's not.

I love you, Flip.

See my history, pal.

You playing?

I don't want no problems with you.

Same.

Mark, I was just saying to you, you need to take naps.

Got to get some rest, Mark.

Yo, I'm directing the show.

Oh, you, oh, my bad.

We forgot.

Yeah, you're cool.

You think it's wise?

You think it's wise what we're doing?

No, I would say, no, I would say, because I watched the last night school.

Mark,

you work a lot.

I know we keep saying that, but just

brother, you know, everybody, I was watching and I literally saw your eyes at a certain point.

Like, you could have possibly fell asleep during your.

Awesome looking in niggas' eyes.

He was concerned.

I feel you, bro.

He was concerned about you.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

You need to take some nasty.

Now, I'm reconfiguring my whole thing.

So, you know, starting probably next week, I just got to get some ducks in a row.

I'm going to start the Patreon.

And it's going to allow me to have to go live.

Yeah, we playing around.

Are you doing the live on the Patreon?

I'm going to do a little bit of live, but what I'm saying is I'm going to do some more pre-records so that I don't have to be up at 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock at night.

Gotcha.

Broadcasting every night because it's becoming taxing, especially after the 14-hour days here.

That's true.

Don't blame up here, Milk.

Don't blame up here.

Now you're right.

How do you decide when to jump on the side?

Nigga, I'm never on your side now, man.

He's always on my side.

I'm not on your side.

Read the comments.

I'm never on your side now.

I don't fuck with you.

I don't fuck with you.

I'm just trying to figure out.

I don't fuck with you.

I don't fuck with you.

As soon as he starts,

I fucked with him early.

I've been on Mona's ass.

I don't fuck with you either.

You fuck with Mona, though, right?

I fuck with Mona, yes.

All right.

Oh, good.

All right, good.

That's dope.

We all do.

We love you.

Good.

Good to see you.

Gotcha.

I have two segments that y'all won't necessarily give a fuck about here.

Let's see it.

One,

I just want to say my heart goes out to Mets fans.

Fuck the Mets fans.

What happened?

So,

the Mets missed the playoffs.

I heard.

Do you know how terrible they are?

I'm sorry.

I want to step on your thing.

I love it.

But they're not terrible.

They have no pitching.

The Mets are not terrible at all.

I disagree.

Do you follow baseball?

Very closely.

Probably more closely than you.

You don't follow baseball more closely.

Okay.

Did you know that the Mets

are 0-70 this season when trailing in the eighth inning?

Okay.

That's an unprecedented number.

That means that at the end, they have never had a comeback.

They have an excellent closer, as I'm sure you know, but the problem is they never get to that point.

You know what I mean?

Because they're struggling mid-inning.

Signing Soto was great.

They packed up their offense.

They had

some injuries at pitcher, but...

At the core, the Mets don't have a pitching staff that matched their offense.

That's all I'm saying.

I know, but you're talking about what happened.

I'm saying there's not a Met fan anywhere in New York City that didn't think they were due for a deep playoff run this year, especially after what happened last year.

I think that's fair.

But they should have been

very Met ending.

Yes.

Even for Met fans.

I'm a Yankee fan, so you know something bad happened if my heart is going out to y'all.

That's why I'm shocked you said it.

The Mets have the second highest payroll in baseball.

The Nets, the Nets, the Mets had career years from

everybody they wanted to have a career year from.

They had a great offseason last year.

The Mets fans were looking at Yankees like Yankee fans like, hey, we got y'all.

Get the fuck out of here.

Y'all are a little brother now.

So what happened?

For them to not be able to go,

they needed to win two out of three.

Either two weeks ago or a week ago.

Okay.

And they went to Miami.

I mean, they went to Florida where the Marlins are trash.

I think the week before that was the Nationals.

The National League is really, really, really, really bad, and they lost two out of three each time.

Yep.

They only needed to win two out of three, and they failed both times.

Two weeks ago, they had an 84% chance of making the playoffs.

To your point, they only had to win.

To go from an 83% chance two weeks out to missing the playoffs is a stunning.

You're right.

It's a very Mets collapse.

The Reds are in the playoffs.

Yo,

stop disrespecting the Yankees.

This is another curse that we've bestowed upon the Mets like we did with the Red Sox.

That's all this is, yo.

Soto left.

Well, y'all should use some of that energy for yourself.

Cool.

At some point, the Yankees are going to figure it out.

They always do.

Even if you get four, five, six years of shit.

I agree.

If you spend enough money,

this is my thing about baseball.

Unlike other sports, like basketball, you can spend the money, but you just payroll.

I mean, there's a salary catch out of there.

Elite teams in elite cities, if they spend enough money, will be okay.

The Mets are kind of the exception sometimes, but with Anaheim, with Los Angeles, with Philly.

The Marlins have the lowest

payroll in baseball.

Yeah.

So basically, they should not have lost to the Marlins, is what you're all saying.

No, I don't follow baseball.

Two out of three.

Two out of three is rough.

Okay.

Got it.

But again, even at the beginning of this season, and I think I tweeted this, but I don't know.

I'm sure they'll tell me if I didn't.

But I know I've said it a lot.

I was always worried about the Mets' pitching stamp.

I never thought that they had the depth.

They went through, I believe, 45

pitchers.

It's either 45 or 46 pitchers this year.

That is an unprecedented number.

That's crazy.

Again, some of that is injury, some of that is bad luck, just regular.

But to go through 45 pitches in one season, it's the curse.

Maybe y'all should stop cursing people.

The jail you prepared for me, the one you're going to ride in.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, maybe y'all niggas need to stop cursing people and focus on the Yankees right now.

And by the way, it looks like, I mean, the Phillies, I think, are the strongest team left.

The Brewers are also very strong.

The Dodgers are always the Dodgers.

My worry is that,

if anything, since the advent of the wild card, the team that has the best record isn't necessarily the hottest team going in.

The Phillies had the best record in baseball last year or second best, but the Mets mopped them coming in because the Mets were on a tear.

You know, we've seen that with Houston.

We've seen that.

You know what I'm saying?

We've seen that several times where the team that's hot is when it makes it.

So this year,

even though the Phillies,

I say that because I was scared of the Mets going in.

If the Mets snuck in, I was terrified of the Mets because they also have been kicking our ass as Phillies, even in the midst of their struggles.

Baseball, to me, is not always about the best record.

It's more like the football, at least when I used to watch it, which is sometimes that wild car team that's hot is more dangerous than the team that gets the bye but hasn't won, that hasn't won.

We saw that with the Eagles a few years ago when they won 12 games and got their ass kicked in the first round.

Like, so baseball is wide open right now.

I'm still thinking the Phillies are going to win the National League.

Stop it.

CRI, Muters, Mike.

All right, enough.

I'm not.

You're right.

That's crazy, too.

He's doing great.

The number two team, we have the second best record in all of baseball.

It's not crazy to think that we could win.

The Brewers have the best.

So, again, the hottest team will win.

We'll see.

We'll see.

The Met season freeze:

there's 162 games in baseball.

I'm freestyling.

Yes, you're right.

Let's say they went,

let's say they won 30 or 50.

Then they lost 17 or 20.

Then they won

10 of 17.

Then they lost 17 of 17

like that's what I'm saying about this season.

It's an epic collapse.

Got it.

Got it.

It's an epic collapse.

This is like when.

Up and.

So what I understand it, this is like a couple years ago when my team, the Steelers, was like 11 and 1 or 11 and 2 and bomb the entire rest of the world.

Similar, but imagine that happening six times in a row.

Because we're talking about 100%.

Oh, yeah.

Imagine that happening six times in a row.

Bomb.

And then you catch up with the ball.

And then you pick up again and you look like the best team, and then you look like the worst team.

And then that, like.

Got it.

Is that based off of what are you saying like injuries and just it's partly injuries starting pitching some of it is just the de juju right again last year the mets were the comeback kids you could go into the seventh eighth inning that they were going they were down five sometime going into the eighth and would win they didn't win one list they didn't win one game that's crazy that's zero and seven i think i believe the number is 0 1 70.

it was 0 1 68 like and i believe the curse of the sodo man to not win any to just not win extra inning games no yeah the hell of a year don't do that no no i'm not saying curse on him he's a great he's great i'm just saying when you when the Yankees lose that type of player.

Remember, we were talking about that.

Joe wasn't here that day.

We were talking about Soto, and again, I was like, if I'm Soto,

I'd have stayed in on the Yankees.

Good job, Soto.

And

oh, and if there was ever a year where the Yankees should have made the playoffs, it was this year.

Yeah.

So now you have the Yankees in, had the Red Sox last night, and the Mets out.

New York is in a.

Yeah, I get it.

And New York is lit when all teams make it.

That's true.

Yeah, yeah.

Like when both teams make it, New York is a different place.

So my heart goes out to you, Mess fans.

It's bad.

It's bad.

It's bad.

And

what was my last one that you guys don't give a fuck about?

Okay.

It's my fashion segment around a bunch of fucking

unfashionable niggas.

Oh, for sure.

Telfar

is coming out with a Timbling.

Timbling.

I got the email.

Did you see it?

Yeah, I got the email yesterday.

I did want to know everyone's thoughts on this.

Absolutely.

Telfar is the black brand that fucking Beyonce blew up and everyone was running around here with the bag.

Telfar, Telfar, they're putting out three Timberlands.

One is the super, super high, drape down.

They're all, two of them are drape downs.

Super high, thigh-high, drape-down.

The second one, I think for $350 is up to the knee.

big drape down and the last one is like a sandal.

Ericson, I'll send you a picture so we can maybe put it on the screen.

But But I know Louis and Timberland had their collab mixed reviews.

This Telfar shit, that second one, I think is going to go.

Which one, the mid one?

Yeah.

The mid one is the one I just.

I do think that that's going to go.

That's the Telescope.

But for Timberland fans, right, who

there's never been a Timberland for more than, well, it's not a Timberland right now for more than $250, $240.

Timberland fans getting adjusted to these new prices from the collabs.

I know the Louis boot was $1,200, $1,500, $2,000.

This is more affordable, different brand.

But one, what do y'all feel about a lifelong brand like Timberland now doing these collabs like Kith does?

One and two, how do y'all feel about it as Timberland wearers?

I'll say this.

I think it's great for the company.

I think the collabs are great.

They inject energy, new designs.

I think generation of people will love it.

As a nigga from the 90s that wore Tim's, and we didn't even let people wear Tims that didn't have leather to.

Yeah, we call it it butt necks.

Yeah, if you walk around butt naked, we was clean.

I will never wear anything but traditional Tim.

I just never would.

Oh shit.

But I ain't mad at people who do.

I'm just an old man at this point.

You got it.

But this is a whole different.

I don't look

the same way.

Yeah, this is like a different design.

And I think this shit is going to work.

Well, it's a collab.

Yeah.

But I'm saying it's different from...

A Timberland.

Yeah, it's a different shoe.

Yeah.

It's a different shoe.

Would you wear that?

Not that one, but I would wear some other Timberland.

Would you wear the Louis Louis Timberland boot?

Okay, got it, got it.

Well, there's a couple different ones, I think.

I like the ones that was just regular

Newbucks boot.

That midget.

Jim Bronx hoes are going to tear that tall Timberland boot up.

That mid one is five.

That mid one.

I don't know what y'all think about.

They want to tear that boot.

You're going to see that boot.

You're going to see that mid one.

The mid one is five.

But that tall one in particular, you will see a lot of.

For sure.

So, Sean, I just wanted y'all a quick opinion on that one.

I know that we're not a fashion show, but.

They're going to put the boot with the bag.

Trust me.

Piqued my interest.

You're going to to wear it.

You're going to get it?

I would get the mid one.

You're going to get the tall one.

And I got both of the Louis Timberland ones, the laces and no laces.

I ain't wore either one of them yet.

You kind of get them because you can't get it.

If you don't get it, you can't get it.

They're not going to sell it again.

Then you fucked.

And I got mine from Louie, not the resecondary market where that shit went absolutely crazy.

I was about to say they can reek.

That's who do it.

Secondary market.

Go Timberland, though.

I guess I bring this up to say I'm a fan of

staple brands, like lifelong brands, like Lego.

Y'all familiar with the Lego story?

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

The way they do all the collabs.

Yeah, yeah, about how the collabs kind of brought their business back after they were in the tank.

Shit, I just saw the SGA chalk because I'm sure this is hard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nah, they are fire.

They are fired.

I'm in the Anthony Airwards commercial, so I'm going to slow down on that.

Let me say it.

Let me say it.

You don't got to open it.

I mean, those are cool.

If that's what you're into, you know, that should be cool.

Yeah, yeah, that was cool.

Good show today, gentlemen.

For sure.

Good show today.

Good show today.

Shout out to our brother.

Ish here with us in spirit.

For sure.

You know, Mark, you got to get out of here, right?

You fight traffic.

Yeah.

And freedom.

Traffic and freedom.

Yep.

Fighting tracking.

Yo.

It's crazy.

Amani, if you have a potter of the month speech you want to get off before Mark leaves, just so you can hear it and be salty in the car?

No, you should just go watch the clip that I left.

I watched the video you made.

Okay, that's it.

She watches everything, bro.

Yeah, I felt like that's all that needs to be said.

But, you know, just good luck.

Today's the first.

So moving into this day,

let's keep it together.

Out of the month.

Let's see if you can do three in a row.

It's a feat.

You know, hey, we'll see.

It's never been done before.

Shut up, Bark.

Niggas still did Irish.

Niggas still did the Irish.

Save travels, bro.

I know you all did this safe.

Oh, my God.

What else needs our attention?

You guys are killing it.

You guys asked me.

Maybe we can do it on Patreon.

I'm curious to hear your conspiracy theory about one battle after another.

I saw the movie this weekend.

It was one of the best movies I've seen.

To me, it was in the same ballpark as Foxy Brown pulp fiction.

Like, whereas I said the Zoe Kravitz movie that came out earlier was kind of in that genre, but didn't knock it out the park.

They absolutely smoked this movie.

The acting, the casting, the cinematography in particular, particular,

the chase scene on the Desert Highway was absolutely incredible.

I saw yesterday.

To me, my favorite movie of the year.

It's my favorite movie of the past 10 years easily.

Yeah, I'm going to just keep it because I know people are so big on sinners this year.

So cool.

I love sinners, but

this is a different level of.

This is different.

This was fire.

Everyone acted their ass off.

It's rare that you can get a movie that is political and funny.

And not only is it political and funny, it's political and funny if you are right-leaning or left-leaning because it shows the left being kind of goofy and extremist, and it shows the right being the right.

I love the mix of the casting, too.

Yeah, the casting was great.

The casting was great.

Leo bodied it.

Benicio Del Toro bodied it.

Of course, Tiana bodied that one.

She was in there a little bit longer, but it is what it is.

The daughter, Chase Infinity, I believe her name is, the actress's name, she bodied it.

Absolutely great.

It's great to see original film again and to see it executed.

Regina Hall, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Regina Hall is underrated when it comes to her skills on the screen.

I know a lot of people lean into when she does a more funnier shit and more playful shit, but she can act her ass off.

The music was great.

I think the guitarist from Radiohead did that.

He did a bunch of other movies as well.

The music, original music, and the songs that they chose to use.

I don't know if the spoiler alert, but American Girl, when it did happen,

phenomenal.

Absolutely bodied that movie.

Absolutely.

But 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10, go see it immediately.

Some people have this as a top three, top four Leo performance.

It might be the.

I won't say

it's high, though.

It's high, but I wouldn't give it.

You said it's three or four.

I'm just telling you.

Some people are saying

they're holding it in pretty high regard.

And that's not even going to be that recency bias.

No.

It's a really good movie.

It was too good of a movie for me to only focus on him.

I'd probably have to watch it again.

You know what's funny?

I feel like you undersold it a little bit.

Because you did say it was dope.

You said you had a great time.

Which in itself is rare for a Joe Button positive movie review.

So that alone should.

When I walked out of there, like, holy, this was.

I was a little fucked up when I walked out of there.

And not so much a conspiracy, but I guess it hits so close to home.

We joke up here about Mark being a freedom fighter and yada, yada, yada.

And they focused on freedom fighters,

but they also focused on some of the other groups.

Yeah.

And

I think what also the timing of it now.

I don't want to blow that Sean Penn shit at the end.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was crazy.

Yo, yeah

Deep.

Yeah, I can't talk about it.

Yeah, no doubt.

Yeah, no spoiler though.

It's deep.

Go see the movie.

Go check it out.

You should absolutely go see the movie.

It'll fight with weapons and centers for movie to year.

You ever seen a I love weapons and centers and this smoke

in terms of a movie.

This movie was absolutely incredible.

Weapons.

Yeah, weapons is dope, but this, I wouldn't even put this in the same conversation.

I wouldn't even put that in the same conversation.

This was a deep movie.

All right.

Listen, check it out if you haven't seen it.

What?

No, no, I want to ask, have you ever

sat your kid down and forced them to watch like a certain movie, like a real important movie that you felt like they needed to watch?

No.

Okay.

You could have stopped that after.

Have you ever sat your kid down?

Yep.

I've done it with music.

And I haven't had to, but I've had the important music talks like, hey, do you know Ice Cube?

Do you know NWA?

Do you know Cypress Hill?

Do you you know?

I didn't do the movie test, all music.

I find that when you sit someone down and make them watch a movie that they didn't have interest in the beginning, the beginning, they're going to never fucking work.

Nobody gets pissed off but me.

Yeah, word.

So I they fall asleep.

I'm not mad.

I'm going to watch it.

I was watching an old school movie.

Well, not old school, but older movie, Last American Virgin.

And that, to me, that movie, every father should sit his son down to watch that movie.

I've never seen that movie.

I've never heard that movie.

Last

American Virgin.

Virgin.

I've never heard of that movie.

It's.

That's not you.

Last American non-virgin.

As far as that conversation of nice guys finishing last, it's the epitome of that as a film.

So as I was watching, I was like, this might be an important movie to show your son.

The balance between being a good guy and not being the push-over.

And you couldn't relate to that, though.

You playing?

You can't relate to that.

I can't.

I can.

It was just.

You don't finish last.

You finished first.

See, you playing.

I was saying that literally just because I was thinking for everybody with kids, have you ever had that moment where you watch the movie and you feel like it's something that you needed them to watch to get a life experience from?

Kids, no, I was doing that with the young bitches.

Yeah, Burke Rain is one of those.

Talking about the kids.

All right, yeah, now the kids.

That's it.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm joking aside.

Making your girl watch some shit.

It's only going to be you with the egg on your face.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's going to get up, go to the kitchen, and not ask you to pause it.

Word.

She ain't going to ask you to pause it.

Go to the bathroom.

I can still hear it from here.

You're missing something important.

What you asking about.

I know you're going to be a little bit more.

Yo, just watch that movie.

Yo, Task.

I ain't seen this week.

Oh, it's cooking.

I didn't see this week.

I haven't watched that show since I'm sorry.

I didn't see why you got upset with Black Rabbit, too.

Black Rabbit is fire, too, by the way.

I just started.

I haven't seen that either.

Episode two or three, I'm like, I started to get upset.

I'm going to finish watch it, though.

You watch TV?

Yeah.

Black Rabbit is annoying.

It's great with great actors, but it's annoying.

Yeah.

It shouldn't be talked about with tattoos.

That's what you're saying.

Yeah,

I haven't seen this week, but it's been a bit more.

You don't think I watch TV?

You don't take me as somebody that got enough time to sit on Watch TV?

Nigga, I'm home all the time.

I know I'm watching TV.

Oh, that's weird.

All right.

Shout out to your household.

Make some noise at Flips Households, y'all.

That's true.

No, no, no, no, no.

Don't clap.

Don't clap in my house.

I don't talk about yours, homie.

Don't clap for my household.

You do talk about my mind.

After I got checked, I never talked about yours again.

Thank God.

Yeah, because I respect my man.

Thank God.

I want to come do some checking.

Yeah, so.

Wait, my house?

You invited.

Come through.

Oh, bad.

Yeah.

No,

you watching SVU?

Excuse me.

Are you watching SVU?

No, you fuck with SVU.

Like they killed off Homeboy Dad.

Yeah.

Who?

Captain, Captain.

Craiger.

Captain Craiger.

Krager.

Which one is that?

The ballhead captain.

He took the white boy to do it.

He died for something.

They ain't say, well, how he died.

They ain't say nothing, but it's just contract with free negotiation.

That's white shit.

He died of contract free negotiations.

Wait, they killed him and didn't show how he died this time.

The new season started with the film at the funeral.

Like, it's just a picture of him on the shit.

They'll explain it later.

Maybe.

I don't hopefully so, but I think that they're trying to treat it like he just died from natural causes.

Yeah, they did the same thing with fucking Stapler when he died, and then he came back seasons later.

I mean, I died, but you didn't know what happened.

Like, Law and Order is pretty good with

closing a chapter to a story and reoccurring characters.

And he was so important.

I was kind of like,

How you just start this shit with my man?

What, what?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's so important for them to not explain that.

It probably will.

They get around.

But I did see a little rest in peace floating around.

Yeah, that shit fucked everybody up.

You cut that shit on, and it's like they walked in, and it's the funeral

on the board.

It's just his face on that shit.

I don't watch Law and Order as it airs.

Oh, okay.

Got it.

Yeah, Law and Order.

But I did the hoodle on that, just see what's going on.

I think we covered everything that I wanted to cover.

If you guys have something that's really important, near and dear to your hearts and homes, I think we did it.

Please.

Oh,

I did finally see him, the movie.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, yeah.

I was completely pissed off.

I was mad at myself.

Like, why the fuck did I even.

I told myself I wasn't going to watch this shit, but I'm like, all right, let me, me it's marlin i'm still i fuck with marlin let me give it a shot marlin did good he did he did marlin did good in it i enjoyed him

i'm done i'm done it was it was done with jordan pill movies and again it's not a jordan

it's jordan pill produced but produced we don't care produced i don't care

if i see a functory paw and see that little shit you're not watching i'm good yeah he he sorry he they lean too much in like

surrealism and movies and all that other shit.

Like, it's just, it's too much.

It's you making shit more complicated than what I'm saying.

What the fuck?

What is the purpose of this film?

What are you trying to get across?

You don't have to hide it.

And I understood what they was trying to say.

I got a contract with this.

It just wasn't executed right to me.

I'm not the negatives coming back in.

Yeah.

But I'm cool.

Salute to Marlin.

No, he did his thing.

Yeah, he did.

Good.

I'm never watching it.

Hey,

there we go.

Never watching it.

Watch it, bro.

Skip it.

Come on.

Play that bone.

Gotta play that bone thugs, yo.

Skip it.

There you have it.

Just skip that one.

You just gotta go see one battle.

No, no, no.

If I don't go tomorrow, I'll go Thursday for sure.

Totally watch that movie as well.

There we go.

I know what that is.

You gotta grow your hair back, E.

They believe it's fucking October already, man.

It's Halloween time.

Thank you.

Can't get away, but it's toast they gave yo, keep your bank.

If you made it this far, we appreciate you.

Thank you very much.

Hopefully, you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you.

Until next time,

you know what's the first of the one that my name is.

Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there.

Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell.

Adio, Cereba, Dirchi, Asta, vista arvois so long goodbye

or a simple head nod will suffice

Remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last

As if it's all we have

What y'all on this week?

Anything interesting?

Anything interesting?

Nope.

Anything fun?

Anything new?

Anything exciting?

None of that.

Hell yeah.

I'm going to catch the movie.

Homewash niggas.

I'm gonna catch the movie.

I'm hitting the circus this weekend.

That's it.

The circus?

Yeah.

Universe Old.

That's the one.

Ice never.

They still got that circus.

Yep.

And they still show animals anymore, though, Air Force.

Nah, it's performances.

That's not a circus, nigga.

Universal Soul is like.

Leave them alone.

A circus with no animals.

Ice is the band, yo.

Ice is so on brand.

Ice found the circus Olay.

I'm gonna go ahead and get the tickets.

No animals, just the performers.

And we're going.

Your girl, your kids?

The kids.

The families.

The kids too.

Okay, so we can't clown too much.

The kids is going.

But Ice be liking the kids' stuff too much.

That's my beef with it.

Nah, I like the kids.

I like watching them at the kids' stuff.

They enjoy that shit.

They light up.

That shit is a good feeling.

So I enjoy it.

They still do the tightrope shit up there for you.

Yeah.

All of that.

You got to be careful fucking with Freeze, too, man.

Me and Freeze did a little fucking, let me turn this down, play a little music, bad.

Me and Freeze did a little

play date for the kids and shit to the trampoline house.

You can't do that with Freeze.

Because he'll jump in.

No, because you'll be in your phone chilling, ignoring your kid being a bad dad.

And Freeze will jump up, run, go save his daughter from turmoil.

So now you got to get up and save your kid from the same turmoil.

It's like, nah, let him do it.

I'm getting out of here.

Nah, my kid, I almost wanted to fight 11 of those kids.

Yeah, trampoline park is there.

It's at least 11 of those kids.

If you got kids, don't do it.

Trampoline Park, it's not worth it.

I'm going to give y'all something.

If you got young kids, for real, for real, Trampoline Park, go early.

Go 10, 11 o'clock.

When somebody do the Roddy Roddy Piper leg drop on your kid's neck,

you're going to feel away.

Once it's about three, four, and the older kids get there, time to go.

Those are spaces where kids get to learn how to interact, though, with strangers.

And I'm going to learn how to interact with you.

But stranger kids.

That was even creepy how you said that.

But stranger kids.

I got to learn how to interact with other kids.

You little fucking freak.

They can do that in school, my nigga.

Not jumping and landing on my kid.

Yo, y'all hold it down out here, man.

Y'all have a good week, same time, same place this weekend.

Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there, yada, yada, yada.

Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure.

The stagnant women want to travel.

And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.

Until next time, man, y'all hold it down.

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