Episode 875 | "5%esque"
Off of Halloween 2025, the JBP shares what they did over the weekend (22:19) before turning to a Spotify lawsuit with claims of Drake streams being fraudulent (27:45). Joe then asks the room to name their options if they could put together a Hip-Hop Union (43:27), LA beats Toronto in Game 7 of the World Series (49:25), and the room reacts to Jalen Green's tattoo of Draya (58:29). The cast continues to share their thoughts about where the direction of AI music is headed (1:05:24), New Orleans Pelicans guard Dejounte Murray posts about his baby mom on Instagram (1:21:54), and rumors of Big Sean & Jhene Aiko's separation (1:42:12). Also, Marc Lamont Hill shares his thoughts on a recent Barack Obama clip (2:16:08) as well as his thoughts about Dick Cheney following his passing (2:28:18), Royce da 5'9"'s recent health battle (2:38:17), and much more.
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Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.
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Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 What's poppin? You
Speaker 1 uh, how's everybody doing? Feeling great, man. Why'd you just do that with your voice? Yeah,
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yeah, what was that? Wow, he feels good. I was feeling safe.
Oh, this is your election day.
Speaker 1 Everybody ready?
Speaker 1 What's up, man? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Chilling. What's good? Sleep in the building, big-ish.
Speaker 1 I ain't vote, man. I didn't vote.
Speaker 1 I wasn't gonna say it.
Speaker 1 I know you, I know your judgmental eye. You look like a non-voter.
Speaker 1 But I wasn't going to say it.
Speaker 1 I don't know where to start.
Speaker 1
I'm going to fix it. What state are you registered and don't vote in? Well, I was registered in New York.
Okay. Nothing happened in there.
Speaker 1 No, I had to fix it, man.
Speaker 1 I had to fix it. Yeah.
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You know what it is? I used to run around in my mind just to seem like I'm a tough guy. Like, yo, I got a I got a criminal history.
I can't vote. Hug my bag.
I'm not voting. That shit don't work.
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I got a youth full of fenders, nigga. That shit is going to expunge.
My mother said, this shit is expunged, boy. What you doing?
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And she said that in front of some niggas, too. It was roasting me.
Some intellectual niggas. Salute.
She's like, nigga, that shit is exponent. If you don't take your ass up there, and.
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I gotta fix my mother. Shoot, man.
Mama Donny looking like he might need some help. I mean, you're gonna win.
I mean, we've been up here talking about that. It's like you were.
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Not like you were unaware. Like, I know, man.
And you've been outside every single day
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for the past. You can probably make content out of it somehow.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah, like, make a difference.
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I will. You 100% could have made content out of that.
You made content out of homeboy. What's my man? The Asian nigga.
It's my man, that little Asian nigga. I like that nigga too.
But
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the mayor is a boat. I like that nigga too.
The whole nigga up. I didn't say it.
I know. I know.
I'm with all that shit. But you got to make a difference.
Speaker 1 You got to use your voice and your platform to make a difference. First of all, we can't keep coming up here talking and talking our audience the way that we talk.
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And come on, we can't prove Angela Ryan, right? Man, stop. First of all, shout out to Angela Rod.
She's so supportive and she shows a lot of love, man. Salute, Mark.
I really like Angela Rod.
Speaker 1 What's up? Two,
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stop watching niggas. Man, I posted that shit like 8:30 at 9 o'clock.
You're supposed to be asleep. She was in the street with homeboy there.
You went to the stew.
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I'm like, follow this little nigga around. But he's all right.
I like him. I like him.
Shout out to my bad.
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Listen, man, who voted? Parks? I did not. Oh, yeah.
Say something to the white man, Mark.
Speaker 1 Say something to the white man. I assume you're going to vote afterward.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
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Wait, so. Well, and it's different for him.
That's judgmental. What does that call?
Speaker 1 Things are already going according to plan. You profiled him? So y'all.
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And I'm not. Yeah, I'm judging him, too.
You just profiled me, so you profiling him. Well, I knew you didn't, because you ragged about not voting for president.
Speaker 1 People usually vote for president and then vote less on the other elections. If you didn't vote for president, I knew you wasn't voting for mayor or dog catcher or anything under that.
Speaker 1 Shit.
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I thought he would vote once I seen Mom Donnie with Dave East. Oh, that's true.
Yeah. I was like, all right, now we reach it.
I mean, Milfield was trying to get me with Mom Donnie.
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You know what I'm saying? She was trying to work on Should I let the three of y'all? Yeah. No.
What content, I mean?
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She booked my content. Watch your fucking mother.
What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, that's the three of us, two of us. Oh, you would just, she would watch.
Got it.
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She wouldn't be there. She'd be at home.
Got it. Got it.
Speaker 1 The voting lines in New Jersey were long.
Speaker 1 They were long. I was happy to see it.
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Happy to see it. Got to love that.
That's a good idea. Get out there.
Did you pull up with your driver or you drove yourself? How did you pull up? Relax. Relax.
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Nigga, if you pulled up in any fancy car, nigga, I snuffed you. Hey, pull up on me.
Are you crazy?
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He was going to pull up, man. All his cars are going to be up.
Then you got to find parking. Didn't that make noise?
Speaker 1
Stay pulled up. You're not pulling up in a Rari.
Niggas will fuck that nigga up, nigga. We're not letting you get on the...
Because then you have. Then you pull up.
Nobody showed up at 6 a.m.
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Expecting Joe. You know what Joe votes at? Yeah.
You know what Joe votes at?
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Nowhere where he is in threat of any bodily harm. Back to you could not be.
See, you come on here talking like you know me and you don't. We're not really friends.
Okay.
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It's dangerous. They say where.
That's what I'm saying. I'm repeating it to you.
Where? It's dangerous where I vote at. I'm not going to make it hot because my profile is risen.
I know.
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My profile is risen. I know.
So is your address. It wouldn't make sense for me to
Speaker 1 hear.
Speaker 1 What county do you think I vote?
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He asked you. What county do you think you voted? Bergen.
No.
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Okay. It's wrong.
Look,
Speaker 1 he's a way.
Speaker 1 Did you vote? No.
Speaker 1 Oh.
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And they try to make you a politician. God, yeah.
And they try to make you a politician. How dare you not vote, nigga? You don't sit up here and go up here and talk.
Speaker 1 You want to win.
Speaker 1 I'm forgotten.
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Yeah, you got to vote if you want to be a politician. You said you're going to be a politician? I'll vote for Ish, nigga.
Are you voting later? No, I'm registered in another state.
Speaker 1 Virginia. Did you absentee for Virginia? You instead of D.C.?
Speaker 1 That's us.
Speaker 1 And you won't vote, Ish?
Speaker 1 I'm not voting. Got you.
Speaker 1 Well, you know what? I didn't fill out the absentee ballot. Y'all were right.
Speaker 1 We should have started with Drake and Spotify. I tried to tell you.
Speaker 1 This is going nowhere for me. Hey, but I said I don't want to bring it up because
Speaker 1 I already know.
Speaker 1 Well, shout out to everybody who did vote.
Speaker 1 And then, you know,
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the democracy depends on it. I like seeing Mamdani out all weekend.
He was at the hip-hop club, the reggae club. About 2 a.m., I saw on Instagram, he was in the gay club doing the Knicks gang.
Speaker 1 He was at the Knicks game.
Speaker 1 He's walking around.
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He's hitting the streets. And he's not taking it for granted.
You don't take the win for granted, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1 Mark, before we start this, because this is not a political podcast, but I do want to ask you, do you think that the late Trump co-sign and Cuomo trying to deny it will have any impact in the booth?
Speaker 1 I think it's going to be worse for Cuomo.
Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. I don't think it's going to help.
Speaker 1 I think the Republican...
Speaker 1 There are people who love Trump who do whatever Trump says, and there's a diet in the wool, Republicans. I think the people who are already a Trumpers were going to vote for Curtis Leeway anyway.
Speaker 1 Could Cuomo's number go up a little bit from that? Yes, but I think he loses on the other side. There are a lot of people who are Democrats who might be a little skeptical.
Speaker 1 Do you think all the Trumpers were voting Sleewa?
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1 I think you were going to see the early polls at Sleewa at 20 at
Speaker 1 Cuomo at like 21 to 24% and Sleevo around 14 to 16%.
Speaker 1
That's a big number. And we're talking about New York.
It's huge. We're talking about New York.
Could Cuomo get a little bit of sleeve?
Speaker 1 Sure. But I see a lot of people,
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Democrats who are on the fence, who when they say, if that's who Trump is for, that's not who I want. And it's going to make them go Mamdini.
So I, yeah.
Speaker 1 I agree with that. You don't think, though, the same effect could happen with the Sleewa people?
Speaker 1 Like, where the people were Republican, and because Trump endorsed Cuomo, he might pull a little bit of them? Maybe, because there are no real Sleewa people. There's like seven Guardian Angels left.
Speaker 1 Everybody,
Speaker 1 if you vote for Sleewe, you just vote red no matter what.
Speaker 1
Right. Yeah, you don't really give a fuck.
So So that's a different kind of position. But I think Mamdai's going to win sizably.
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I think he's going to get a big chunk of the vote. I don't think it's going to be close.
I think he's going to be dancing and celebrating by 8.30. By 2.30? Shit.
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As soon as the poll is closed, he gets in a lunch like, yo, I'm good. Right.
My last question. Do you think if you were Sleawa, would you have bowed out for the 10 mil that he says they offered him?
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 I don't think they offered him 10 mil.
Speaker 1 You're just making it sound good.
Speaker 1 Curtis Sleewood ain't got two nickels to rub together. I promise you
Speaker 1 I definitely think they offer him 10 mil. And you think
Speaker 1 he's old.
Speaker 1 He ain't got no money. He's old though.
Speaker 1 Yeah, old guardian angel.
Speaker 1 Yeah, he went to the train state. He survived assassination.
Speaker 1 He's tried to kill me.
Speaker 1 I'm living off principle in my marriage life.
Speaker 1 I got the whole angels behind me. I can't let them down.
Speaker 1 All the old niggas, nigga.
Speaker 1 But do I think that they would have tried to pay him thinking that that would make up the difference in the lead that Mondami has over Cuomo 100% if you feel like I'll take that 10 to 15 percent out and give Cuomo more of a shot no matter what the early polls say 10 million is is the drop white bucket white price
Speaker 1 yeah I don't think they first of all I don't think he cost
Speaker 1 he ain't worth that they gave fucking Jasmine Sullivan 10 million to fucking go to perform at the I'm just making up names but they they gave Ari they gave
Speaker 1 10 million Andy
Speaker 1
you don't knock it off with what they think about 10 million in political budgets. I don't think 10 million is too that they can't afford it.
I'm saying,
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I don't think they need to spend 10 million on Curtis Lee. I think 2 million in the sandwich should do it.
Yeah, but we're going to OD and make it an offer that you can't refuse.
Speaker 1
Well, apparently he did. That's why I don't believe they offered it because I don't see Curtis Lee returning down $10 million.
This is all speculation. I think they paid Eric Adams, too, allegedly.
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Oh, I know they paid Eric. Allegedly.
Allegedly, because I ain't not pleased. Eric Adams, again, it wasn't no $10 million.
Speaker 1
They gave him a great job. Yeah.
I promised in the future. A chopped cheese.
Yeah. That's what I'm going to take.
And some fixed tickets. You think they they gave it to me?
Speaker 1
But we knew he could have been bought. He's going to be in the fifth row.
Them Eric Adams seats. You don't think.
Speaker 1 It don't cost much to buy Eric Adams. You don't think? No.
Speaker 1 He wasn't going to win anyway.
Speaker 1 Mark got everybody cheap. Yeah, but I could cause a disruption.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
I'm with you, though. He could have been bought.
And his ego is so big, he'd rather bow out than lose anyway.
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Oh, my God. Pay me, nigga.
Don't pay me, but it ain't 10 million. It's change your voting.
You lived in Jersey for 35 years. Change your ID, whatever you got to go do.
Change it.
Speaker 1 You going to pay my insurance?
Speaker 1
Yeah. All right.
Now what? Give it here. Now what? Give it here.
I'll go tomorrow.
Speaker 1
Now you look stupid. No, I'm not.
Yes, I will. Yo, I think your vote matters.
Send it over. So, yes, I'll change it.
Pay the fucking white van insurance. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 In defense of ish,
Speaker 1 Virginia is a much
Speaker 1 worse than the Texas Texas state.
Speaker 1
I know he from the era where niggas got they licensed in South Carolina so they could do the military insurance. I know the area you're from.
You think I don't know who he is?
Speaker 1
But I'm saying Virginia is also a purple state. Like, you might, your vote matters more, except I'm not sure you're a Democrat.
No, I should have done the absentee ballot, but I did. All right.
Speaker 1 So I don't vote the right way. I like that.
Speaker 1
You know, you're going to vote the way. You know, you're going to vote the right way.
You want. And you want to be in politics.
I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about the other dudes.
Speaker 1
You know, but. And you're going to be in politics-ish.
Niggas are the stupid fuckers.
Speaker 1 If you were able to vote in New York, who would you vote for? That's why I'm asking. In New York City? Yes.
Speaker 1 I probably want want to vote it cuomo
Speaker 1 okay okay
Speaker 1 if i was able to vote in new jersey mikey cheryl all day mikey sheryl's with a bunch of my niggas that was um down bad and she helped them a lot oh she was one of the first people in um that obama uh convict paid reform program in here yo what the did you just pull a honey bun out here what was that yo what did you just do what the fuck you did did you just pulled off camera and i moved the thing that was causing the rattle nigga did you hear the noise that it made?
Speaker 1 If you were headphones or you know, it's been making noise the whole time.
Speaker 1
We told him about some really important stuff, Mar. You pull up.
This is your cutting
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shit out of your pocket. But it was a bagel.
It was a plain bagel. Which is worse.
You threw it in the bagel.
Speaker 1
I didn't want to keep rattling, so I threw it so that y'all wouldn't hear it. It did not draw attention to it.
But these two over there. Eric said, I hope you got that in the eyes.
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This is how we get rotors. You know, niggas, my man, if he's in here with his joint, pick that shit up.
Little Gabby. Get out and vote.
Speaker 1
Lil' Debbie in his pocket, Debbie. Get out and vote.
That's it. That's all I got for y'all, man.
Speaker 1 Do you guys think that women should vote?
Speaker 1 Okay, seriously, though, I do think, I think that most women should not vote, but only because, here we are, I think the only people that should vote are single moms.
Speaker 1 You know, they're the only people that deeply understand that if you pick the wrong guy, there are consequences.
Speaker 1 Mike check one two one two mic check one two one two
Speaker 1 greatest broadcast in the world you know what the fuck time it is right now
Speaker 1 shout out to wherever you might be listening from
Speaker 1 big check
Speaker 1 my brick clean when riding dirty get clean shoot
Speaker 1 New York City
Speaker 1 I'm about cream. I got that a car.
Speaker 1 I take them everywhere.
Speaker 1 I'm MC.
Speaker 1 Started selling
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from two legit to quicker. When it's amazing, I'm pulling out the squiggle.
I'm at the call up.
Speaker 1 I'm going broke.
Speaker 1 I pay for five, they front a couple more.
Speaker 1 I take them home, like I do my hoes.
Speaker 1 I dress em up, I buy
Speaker 1 Glass slippers, I gas hose. Now she acting brand new on you asshole.
Speaker 1 Shout out to all the ladies out there.
Speaker 1 She thinking for light. Everybody in the car right now.
Speaker 1 Nobody where you live.
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I got my theme cock. Black Batmobile.
It's only new Ferrari.
Speaker 1 like in the Tari.
Speaker 1 I'm just advising, my profit's rising.
Speaker 1 This crime's up in a nigga like a Ferrari.
Speaker 1 My gun dirty, my brick clean,
Speaker 1 I'm riding dirty, my deep dirty,
Speaker 1 shoots out dirty. Shout out to the brands and clean up.
Speaker 1 I'm about fine.
Speaker 1 Just on Indian's rock for a broken sky.
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pet. I point it at you and tell that motherfucker fetch.
I'm fucking her girl, she got her legs on my neck.
Speaker 1 When I was in jail, she let me call her collect. If she get greedy, I'ma starve her to death.
Speaker 1 Top down,
Speaker 1 dance up set. Then fucking the world, dog.
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Don't put me wrong, I knock your head off your neck. The flight too long, I got a bed on the check.
The funds are drawn, and I ain't talking talking about a sketch.
Speaker 1 I pay these niggas with a reality check. Prepared for the worst, but still praying for the best.
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This game is a bitch, I got my hand up a dress. The money don't sleep, then we can rest.
And AK-47. It's my fucking address.
Speaker 1 Home Connecticut, let's go.
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Big black nigga in the icy watch. Shoes on the coop, bitch, I got a Nike shop.
Shouting profits, you can bring them in the Nike box. Grinding in my jaws, kick em off, they might go wild.
Speaker 1 Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world right quick.
Speaker 1 Y'all know who it is, y'all know who we be, y'all know what time it is.
Speaker 1 Y'all know what we're here to do, man. Look at these drops out the way real quick.
Speaker 1 What's that?
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And flip, flip, flip, flip. What episode is this? 875.
Welcome to episode 875 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by Prize, Peace, Prize, Peace, Gang.
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I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here, host Joe Button here with the best crew in the motherfucking world. You know who we are.
You know what we're here to do.
Speaker 1 To my right, Queens get the money. Queens Flip is in the building.
Speaker 1 To his right.
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Mr. Thousand Doors and Up.
Huh? Y'all know the vibes. Huh? Biggish in the building.
Future.
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Next to him, our our good brother, Dr. Dark Lamont Hill.
Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Makes the noise for him.
Speaker 1 Next to him, you already know Elmira's finest big parks in the building.
Speaker 1 Next to him, we got Poe, we got Corey, we got Erickson, we got Tan and Savon here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
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Shout out to our brother Ice here with us in spirit. He is home with a stomachache.
He's got a boo-boo. A tummy.
He woke up with a boo-boo. Shout out to our good brother Ice.
Always here with us.
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Core day whooped his ass, huh? Yeah, man. Yeah, man.
How's everybody doing? How's everybody doing? How y'all feeling? What's poppin'? Feeling great? Great, actually. Yeah.
Speaker 1 What y'all did over the weekend? Anything exciting?
Speaker 1 Nothing.
Speaker 1 Nothing exciting, man. Home playing with the temperature thingy.
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No Halloween parties, nothing. I went out fighting with my wife a little bit.
We had a good time with Chicago afterwards. Went to some hip-hop shit.
Shout out to Philmore Green.
Speaker 1 We all had a big festival out in
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Chicago. Something like that.
Skyzoo was there. They did a beat battle.
I was there with Large Pro and Paula Brown and a bunch of other people. Just a beat battle.
Speaker 1
It was probably like, it might have been 50 artists on that bill. It was dope.
Wow. Good time.
Shout out to Chicago. Fire.
Shout out to Large Pro. Shout out to motherfucking Skyzoo.
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Shout out to the guys. Yeah, man.
It was a blast. I didn't go out for Halloween at all.
No? Not at all. Damn.
I knew about some parties. It was lit outside.
Speaker 1 We were supposed to come to Jersey, but then we had to flight early in the morning, so we ended up just staying in Astoria.
Speaker 1 I think my days of going out to party while everyone can wear a mask might be done.
Speaker 1 Might be done. Y'all
Speaker 1 have had it, though.
Speaker 1
I stayed home, caught up on my favorite shows. I was tired.
Not bad. It was a work day.
Work beat my ass that day.
Speaker 1
That's a fact. I was tired.
But shout out to everybody. Had a great time for Halloween.
I did want to ask y'all. What did y'all do, Halloween? Flip-itch? I went to a haunted house.
Were you scared?
Speaker 1
Upstate. Pure terror.
Were you scared? Yeah. I mean, I filmed it.
Speaker 1
It was scary. It was scary.
I was throwing the ladies in the front. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, I was. I'm not, nigga.
I don't want the niggas touching me. I don't know.
They was just jumping out of nowhere. So you through the window.
You want some New Jack City shit, huh?
Speaker 1 Picked up the baby.
Speaker 1 What you said?
Speaker 1
That was a New Jack City. I know, I know, I got New Jack City.
I did. I did.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1
I think it was lit, man. I think I had fun.
A lot of people invited a lot of people out and we went to the hotels. It was a great experience, man.
Nice. Dope.
Speaker 1
A little scary for me, you know, as an adult, I don't like to be scared like that, but it was adult. So you're a pussy.
Are you ticklish? Yeah, I'm ticklish.
Speaker 1 You look a little ticklish. I'm like a little teletubby ass shit.
Speaker 1
You look ticklish too, nigga. That's why you're waiting.
Nobody touches your neck. None of that shit.
You look ticklish. Freaky.
What? You trying to touch his neck?
Speaker 1
How do you know this? Word. Because when I try to give him a hug, my hand go behind the crevice of the hook.
You're not putting your hand on her body.
Speaker 1
I didn't know y'all hug like that. Y'all do that.
Y'all don't hug like that.
Speaker 1
Y'all do different hugs. Come over here.
Y'all get away from me, bro.
Speaker 1
Nah, I'm good, though. I got like, ooh, nigga.
He tinglish, yo.
Speaker 1
He tinglish. You learn something new about your co-host ever since.
Yeah, worry.
Speaker 1 That was dope, though, man.
Speaker 1 You was in the house? I didn't.
Speaker 1 I had travel plans on Saturday and Newark undermined them. So I was trying to head to Virginia for
Speaker 1 D'Angelo's funeral, but
Speaker 1 the travel just,
Speaker 1
it was fucked up for me. They canceled my flight on the way like we checked in already and they canceled my flight exactly.
That's basically what happened to me on my way to Richmond.
Speaker 1 They just showed Houston three-hour wait for TSA.
Speaker 1
It was just motherfuckers standing there with their kid. Like, it was a lot, bro.
That's three hours. I wasn't standing nowhere with my kid for three hours.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Torture.
Speaker 1 Speaking of, but then on Sunday, I was able to at least take them to the zoo. My daughter came up with her children, so I had my two grandkids and their uncle, Malcolm, who
Speaker 1
the three-year-old uncle. We all hung out uh at Turtleback Zoo.
And it was good to spend the day with them. I cooked for them, we hung out, spent some time.
Speaker 1 It's good to be with family sometimes, yeah, but you made
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the animal slaves, yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't watch too many of the animal slaves, we just fed the goats and then played in the playground.
What you mean, Mo?
Speaker 1
You say you cooked for them, yo, something wrong with this guy. He's right, I ain't say nothing.
What'd you say? I said, What did you make? You said you cooked for them. Oh, uh, what did I make?
Speaker 1 I made some uh
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some uh shrimp scampy, I made some crab cakes, I made uh fried some chicken. Oh, shit.
Just some things kids want. Chef Bart.
Okay. All right, you know what?
Speaker 1
You guys don't even deserve how interesting we are. That's enough.
Enough. That's enough of what we did.
Wild shit. Too late for you to know.
Speaker 1 Where do y'all want to start? Where do y'all want to start?
Speaker 1 Well, we got to start. Oh, wait, I do want to ask y'all before we move on.
Speaker 1 I had a question about Halloween because I saw a few people getting their ass kicked after Halloween about their costume choices.
Speaker 1
One of those people was Winnie Harlow. Shout out to her.
She chose to be Whitney Houston, but it was.
Speaker 1 And I saw one of the white ladies. I don't remember her name, but she was.
Speaker 1
Heidi Klume. Heidi Klu? No, no.
Heidi Klume was Medusa.
Speaker 1
Heidi Klume was Medusa. Heidi Klume kills every year.
Don't put no smut on Heidi Klund.
Speaker 1 Heidi Klum.
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Well, Heidi Klume for Halloween does.
Oh, it's underwear. That's all I'm saying.
Heidi Klumo Ween or some shit where every year. She goes what's crazy?
Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like movie design, movie costume type shit. Every year.
Speaker 1 So now I seem like that guy. Yeah, after the Cindy Suity thing.
Speaker 1 It's a lot of white TV love going on in here today.
Speaker 1
You're going to tear that. And I think that's cool, man.
That looks hilarious. I think that's cool.
I hate you guys.
Speaker 1 Anyway, what?
Speaker 1 Now I want to hear the criticism.
Speaker 1
Somebody else, I don't, now I got a brain freeze. Hey, this Wendy Harlow? They was on her ass for her being Whitney Houston, you know, during the Wendy interview.
It wasn't just Whitney.
Speaker 1
It was like bad Whitney. Yeah, right.
It was bad Whitney. Yeah, which is not okay.
Speaker 1
But one of those white ladies was a victim, like somebody got stabbed. Damn it.
And the dress had blood all over, and they was on her ass because how could she be so insensitive?
Speaker 1 It's like
Speaker 1
before this part is over, it's going to come back to me. That's going to bother me.
To me, if you're getting dressed for Halloween, you're going to ask yourself, is this a good idea?
Speaker 1
It's probably not. Like, just in general, just don't do nothing dumb.
I like a good joke, though. I like a good joke, even if it crosses the line a little bit.
As long as it's not picking.
Speaker 1
Like, being a random murder victim is different than being like a Jeffrey Dahmer victim. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't pick on anybody in particular, but a little...
Fox. Julia Fox.
Julia Fox.
Speaker 1
Julia Fox. Okay.
I knew it was somebody we love too. We? We?
Speaker 1 What do you mean, we, white man?
Speaker 1
Let me see. Y'all don't fuck with Julia Fox.
That's kind of the old word. Love is just a strong word.
No.
Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, no, I'm not talking about her now.
Speaker 1
I'm not talking about her. What are you talking about? Not talking about her.
Julian Roberts? I'm talking about an actress. Julia Roberts.
No, there's a Fox. Megan? Must be Megan Fox.
Nah.
Speaker 1
We like her, right? Yeah, she's cool. I think she's cool.
Oh, y'all scaring me.
Speaker 1 You just got a whole list over there. We don't learn.
Speaker 1
Julia Fox was not on my list. Megan Fox is not on my list.
Okay. Just so we're clear.
Megan Fox is doing something. She played John F.
She dressed up as John F. Kennedy's wife after the assassination.
Speaker 1 She has blood all over the
Speaker 1
pink outfit. And the family's going crazy.
Again, it's kind of far.
Speaker 1 She's a real person. Yeah.
Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So you can't be real people.
Speaker 1 Fam, she's Jackie Kennedy. Mocking their tragedy.
Speaker 1 That's the Whitney Houston. Her husband got shot.
Speaker 1
Hit his blood is on her dress. And she dressed up as that.
I think that's a little excessive, my nigga. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And white people love them from Kennedys. Yeah.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
You think that's creative? No, I'm not saying that. Oh, I'm not saying that.
It's insensitive.
Speaker 1 I think so. I think it's insensitive.
Speaker 1 I also don't know how many people on Halloween are thinking about, oh, the family of this victim.
Speaker 1 True.
Speaker 1
When you're famous, though, it's a little different. Like, if you was going to be a little bit more.
Well, because they be doing Halloween for the grand. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Like, if you just put your outfit on, went to the local bars,
Speaker 1 went to the parties. I absolutely love
Speaker 1
what we do in New York, the thriller shit that the gay people do down there during the parade. I absolutely love that.
Every single year they smoke that. Come on, make a gay joke, Mark.
Speaker 1
You just said weed. You said weed.
That's why I look.
Speaker 1
You said, I love what we do. We do the dragon.
We, as in New York, New York holds the space for that. I let it go.
I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1
I just made a face to play. Drake and Spotify.
Excuse me. Come on.
Come on. Drake and Spotify.
You wrote it up there. Let's get right to it.
Let's get right to it. That's what the fans want, man.
Speaker 1
They expect us to trash Drake right now. And I don't think we need to.
I totally disagree. I don't think that at all.
Speaker 1
I don't think that the audience is expecting this bod to come on us trash Drake. Okay, I could be wrong.
But if you want to trash him, I have no desire to trash Drake. What I wanted to do.
So, RBX,
Speaker 1 the artist, the rapper. I'll get my shades, nigga.
Speaker 1 I ain't gonna leave you out there.
Speaker 1 RBX is, if y'all don't know, he's a rapper,
Speaker 1 OG rapper, death row affiliate, wrote some really important songs, was part of the chronic, part of a whole bunch of stuff. And he's Snoop's cousin.
Speaker 1 He sued Spotify.
Speaker 1 And the basic allegations that Spotify is complicit in the use of bots to fake streams.
Speaker 1 And in the lawsuit, they mentioned one artist as an example, that is Drake. I want to stress Drake is not being sued, Drake is not being accused of any wrongdoing.
Speaker 1 Drake is just being used as an example to show how many, many streams are being far are being produced, sometimes at things like bot farms, one of which was found in Turkey.
Speaker 1 Uh, and they're saying that that maybe
Speaker 1 that a large number of the streams are faked and it harms the other artists who are not being inflated the same way.
Speaker 1 They showed a time period from, I think it was January of 2022 until September of 2025
Speaker 1 where
Speaker 1 they were looking at just Drake's music as an example and showing these unusual inflations. For example, where somebody would be listening to Drake's music for 23 hours.
Speaker 1 And one of the major sources, just to tie this up, is
Speaker 1
irregular listening habits. Yes.
It's from what Mark is saying,
Speaker 1 the neo-geographic shit. Some of these streams are coming from places where there's no address, nobody lives.
Speaker 1
So they're all using VPNs. Yeah.
That's a big thing, too. And they're mostly tied to the free tier of Spotify, which is so there's no credit card trace or anything like that.
Speaker 1
So that's how they're able to navigate Finnego the system. They're using the free tier.
That's why I don't like free tiers on things.
Speaker 1 But the free tier is not really.
Speaker 1 It's not free yet.
Speaker 1
free. The free tier, that's a myth.
It is. There's no such thing as a free tier.
Right, explain. Come one, come all.
I don't know if I feel like in this talk, maybe in hour two.
Speaker 1
There's so many more advertising. There take more data.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha. But the actual paycheck is
Speaker 1
paying. I might jump out there and say it ain't too far removed from being almost as valuable as the paid tier.
Probably more. Which is right.
That's what I mean when I say on fire.
Speaker 1 Because it's a hustle.
Speaker 1 And the argument is not that Spotify is necessarily making
Speaker 1 the fake streams, but they benefit so much from it that they're not.
Speaker 1
They turn the side eye. Yeah, because that's how they go to subscribe, to advertisers and say, look, look at all these people we got listening.
So they're incentivized to do it.
Speaker 1
The artists are incentivized not to stop it. And the only people really being harmed are people.
Lesser-known. Less-known artists.
Yeah, it's the middle class and lower artists.
Speaker 1 How are they being harmed? I explained this during a bunch of different times, but specifically during the Drake Beef, that was one of my reasons why people might have an issue with him.
Speaker 1 Is what happens on Spotify in particular, but I think also Apple, is they essentially pool tips, meaning
Speaker 1 they take all the money from all of the streams and then look at who gets what percentage of streams and divvy up the money that way.
Speaker 1 So if someone has an artificially inflated number, they're essentially taking money out of the pockets of people with lower numbers. Right,
Speaker 1 which is why RBX is suing. And that's one of the reasons I was leaving Spotify.
Speaker 1
Well, I left Spotify. You can't take my numbers, put them in a pot with everybody else's numbers, and then divvy it up equally.
No, it don't work like that.
Speaker 1
I'm not tight enough for that. If I got more numbers, I want to be paid than more of these people.
I got enough numbers to be looked at in a whole different class. Don't put me in that pot.
Speaker 1
So I get the lesser number. I understand exactly what they're saying.
But, but in that instance, you would be the beneficiary of that. No, I would not.
Speaker 1
No, I would not. Like Drake in that instance is the beneficiary.
Right. Right.
So if your numbers are the,
Speaker 1 not saying your numbers are inflated, but if you had the higher numbers and they pull everything together, then you won't get the lion share.
Speaker 1 In this instance, Drake would be the beneficiary because they have worked it out to pay him more. Gotcha.
Speaker 1 When I was there, everybody's numbers go in the pot and we divvied this up equally or has how we see fit. There's no way for a creator to know their true worth in that system.
Speaker 1
Because you don't ever see the numbers. No.
Well, not the reality. No, but they don't count for anything.
Yeah, and they bow all the numbers together. They don't count for anything.
Speaker 1 If I'm carrying the ship, which I was,
Speaker 1
yeah, no, I deserve the lion's shear or to be looked at independently. However, you source ads for everybody else should not and cannot apply to me.
Gotcha. Yeah.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 According to some, I read some studies this morning on this, and
Speaker 1 the most reliable studies I've seen suggested maybe 10%
Speaker 1
of all these streams are fake across the board. So that's a, and that's the tune of tens of billions of dollars.
So, and if
Speaker 1 a bunch of them are going to one or two artists, that's also a problem.
Speaker 1
And that's what they're finding with these farms is that like 1% of people are accounting for it, like a disproportionate number of the streams. So it's justifiable, though.
Yeah. Then it makes sense.
Speaker 1 Because if you just had streams for
Speaker 1 Joe Blow that were just inflated, then you couldn't, it seems fake. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 If it's Drake, if it's Kendrick, if it's Taylor, if it's those people that command a certain amount of streams, we're just going to throw half a million a day over there to them.
Speaker 1 And then it seems and that's not and that's not fair at all. If I'm relying on my song that I worked hard on and you got 30 stream farms, I'm just pulling numbers out of here.
Speaker 1
30 stream farms working 23 hours out of a day. That ain't fair at all.
True, I agree.
Speaker 1 I just want to say that.
Speaker 1 But it shouldn't depend on the artist that's suing.
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1 What's the RBX? RBX. What do they say? Class action suit, right? Yeah, he's opened up the door, but he wants us to become a class action suit.
Speaker 1 And it should be a a class action suit, which is why I don't get where the your take about the fans wanting us to kick Drake's back in. This ain't to me
Speaker 1 really about Drake at all, no.
Speaker 1 The reason why it becomes about Drake, and it should not be, is because he's the only artist named in the suit.
Speaker 1 And it's not clear from the lawsuit where they got their data from or why they only chose Drake to point to.
Speaker 1 So I think they think that we're going to make the mistake. that a lot of people have made in the last 24 hours,
Speaker 1
which is to misrepresent what happened. A lot of people are saying Drake is getting sued or that Drake was caught with bots.
Neither of which is true. We are much more.
Speaker 1 Well, he's not getting sued in this suit. Yes, there's two others.
Speaker 1 There's some other things going on. There's some other things,
Speaker 1 but this one is not about Drake.
Speaker 1 It's interesting, though, and this is not a Drake diss at all. Again,
Speaker 1 it's just a matter of the chronology and the facts here, is that when Drake started to
Speaker 1 talk
Speaker 1 about UMG and bots and how they were being used potentially to harm him, there were experts who said, hey, you might not want to lift that hood up because if you lift the hood up and start talking about who's using bots and whose streams are real and whose streams are not, you may find that there's a lot of fake ones on your side, too.
Speaker 1
And you may have nothing, no knowledge of. But no, that's and I don't think he does have any knowledge.
I'm not, I don't think Drake did anything wrong here. I just think the fact is
Speaker 1
a whole lot of people use bots. That's just part of the business.
No, I think that was his point. I think his point was, dog, when they use them for me, I know how it looks.
So, yeah.
Speaker 1 So, I know that y'all using them for him because I'm the nigga that they do it for. So, I can identify when it's being done.
Speaker 1
I don't think he never necessarily denied that the shit is happening out here. He was saying, like, my nigga, y'all do it for me.
I'm the authority on this shit.
Speaker 1
I know how it is when an album is being pushed or with a button being pushed. He's saying that when he did it, it wasn't at the expense of somebody else.
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 1 And to me, that's
Speaker 1
at the expense of him. I mean, make painting him a certain way, you know.
So that's. I feel that.
Well, let me say this. Let me not speak for myself.
Speaker 1
RBX is saying it is at someone else's expense because every time you get more money from these fake streams, I'm getting less. Right.
Yeah. It's a fine, it's a, it's a zero-sum game.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 And he's correct.
Speaker 1 And then Wayne Parks explained that that makes total sense. It's frustrating that all the, it's everything's digital.
Speaker 1
Everything could be paid out to who it should be paid out to without doing this extra shit. Yeah.
It's a bad business model, an unfair business model.
Speaker 1 I wish the law, I only wish that the lawsuit had more names than Drake because this makes it about Drake. True.
Speaker 1 Again, and not about the system, not about the broken system, not about the companies, not about the thieves.
Speaker 1 Also to that, you're pointing to the one guy who is probably most believable that all of these people fucked with those songs.
Speaker 1 Right, because there might be somebody listening to Drake 23 hours a day, quite honestly, somewhere in the world. That ain't the craziest thing.
Speaker 1 But in fairness, the only way that this gets legs is if you do that. Right.
Speaker 1 If he points out whoever the fuck, Ariana Grande or something like that, this is a non-story and it gets brushed under the rug.
Speaker 1 If you put someone who is already having a bot conversation, people like us will talk about it. I think he should have picked like the...
Speaker 1
Taylor, Drake, and blah, blah, blah. That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying? And then they would have made it more just the single man. I know about the company.
Yeah, not singling out.
Speaker 1 And it's easy for the miscommunication to flow because now they're going to conflate the UMG issue with the Spotify issue and all of that.
Speaker 1 I feel like I've been saying for the last, at least since 2018, that the future is going to be filled with class action suits against the likes of a Spotify.
Speaker 1 And I won't name any other companies for now.
Speaker 1
This ain't going to be the last of it. Because all these tech companies are relying on inflated information and data to rise up their stock prices.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
Alpha sales. Sale ads, all of that shit.
The inflation of the numbers.
Speaker 1
The inflation of the numbers is just to get more revenue. Right.
Correct. It still doesn't, it doesn't say that people are listening to you and because the payout is small, right? What is this payout?
Speaker 1
Like something? It's something. A fraction of a cent.
Yeah. A fraction of a penny.
So it's just to get them more money. I don't think it's taken away from anybody.
Speaker 1 It's only to get more users so it looks like your app is more viable so that more people invest so that you get more money for the stakeholders. Right.
Speaker 1
You're selling the sizzle before you get the state. I'm such a bird.
I cared way more about the Drake Gracie Bond news than this.
Speaker 1 I don't, what's that news? Share, Joe.
Speaker 1
That's your bird. This is why they say that.
I'm never going to beat the allegation.
Speaker 1
But it's okay. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm here for.
Why? Yeah, why beat it? Like, if somebody else would do it, maybe I could take a backseat, but fuck it.
Speaker 1 So, Gracie Bond is the OnlyFans entertainer/slash Instagram mom. Oh, the girl with the fat ass, slash the girl that be on the Spanish that Spanish talk show
Speaker 1 and
Speaker 1 someone's phone is making some noise
Speaker 1 This is calling Siri right now
Speaker 1
And not the girl with the fat ass that would be uh that would be understatement. She's went and got multiple rounds.
She prides herself off of she used to be huge inside
Speaker 1 and then she went and got a 20 million surgeries and now she looks the way she looks and she goes around and does shit for attention with her ass.
Speaker 1 So she is claiming that
Speaker 1 she linked with Drake
Speaker 1 and after
Speaker 1 many promises,
Speaker 1
he debted her and could he and in her story has blackballed her. From the UK party scene.
From the UK, yes.
Speaker 1 Why?
Speaker 1
Girl, you. I'm mad I saw this story.
I caught you a bird. I actually read every bit of this.
See?
Speaker 1 You didn't remember her name.
Speaker 1
Don't be down with me. He's the intellectual bird.
We can read each other's minds from separate locations. I'm telling you.
That is actually quite true. But
Speaker 1 so, yeah.
Speaker 1 How do we feel?
Speaker 1
I'm sorry that she went through that. You guys don't care.
First and foremost. Do y'all think that Drake blackballed this girl from the UK nightlife scene? Oh, man.
Speaker 1
No, Joe. Not necessarily.
It would not shock me if he was in a club one night and she was trying to get in and he was like, yo, I don't want her near me.
Speaker 1 Something very small could get blown up. I don't want to assume the worst about Drake.
Speaker 1 Oh, well, I do.
Speaker 1
I 100% believe that he blackballed this big bitch from the UK night scene. Now.
I want to hear both sides.
Speaker 1 Now. No, she did.
Speaker 1
That girl was moving around. I also don't think there's nothing wrong with him doing that.
Is that bad? No. It depends on what she did.
Speaker 1
You can't black some ball somebody just because you don't fuck with them no more. Yes, you can.
That's terrible.
Speaker 1 People are terrible.
Speaker 1
I mean, you can, you shouldn't. You shouldn't do that.
Now, if she was a little stalky, I'm cool. Man, if you came over here acting dumb and acting stupid,
Speaker 1 you did something. I could pull the bottom out
Speaker 1 trying to record me. If you did, so who knows what you could have did.
Speaker 1
Making up lives, making up. If you able to blackball somebody in their hood.
But that's big. Go for it.
Go for it. Yo, she just can't be outside no more.
That's crazy. She can be outside.
Speaker 1
She can't be inside. She can't go to the club.
He ain't doing nothing or her OnlyFans check. He ain't, she has sources of income.
She's still doing the Spanish news show.
Speaker 1
She ain't saying that I can't make any money. Is it a Spanish news show? Yeah, it's not a news show, but it's one of them talk shows.
And she's with the streamers.
Speaker 1 You really did your in-depth journalism with this.
Speaker 1
What? He's like, somebody's running for governor of New Jersey. But let me tell you about episode three of this woman.
I love you because you know you've read.
Speaker 1 You admit to reading everything.
Speaker 1 I hate you. But yeah, listen,
Speaker 1 I followed her on OnlyFans
Speaker 1
five rounds ago. Oh, shit.
It was five rounds ago. Then you start doing too much.
Yeah. You get addicted to it, then you belong on MTV, and now it just looks like a hot mess.
Speaker 1 But I support those girls that used to be 700 pounds, and then they went and did some shit, and now they're just 300 pounds, but they're pretty in the face and suck the dick.
Speaker 1
That's bad. No.
Oh, okay. Anyway.
Speaker 1 I mean, best of luck to
Speaker 1
Crazy Bond. I wouldn't have blackballed the girl.
She'd be with with the streamers and stuff. She's still moving.
I don't know what the fuck. That black bullshit doesn't mean anything.
I seen her.
Speaker 1
Her OnlyFans jumping like he said, yo, what's her lawsuit? I was on it. She done.
I haven't got a lawsuit. I thought you said Drake.
It's just bird shit, nigga. She's not in the lawsuit.
Speaker 1
She's just in interviews, chatting shit. It's the bird session, ish.
Got you.
Speaker 1 Well, best of luck in her
Speaker 1 pursuits. Yeah.
Speaker 1 That's why you got blackballed.
Speaker 1
Why? You in his interviews talking shit about niggas that's powerful enough to make you stay your ass in the house. Let's take it off then.
Would any of y'all do it? If y'all was up, super powerful,
Speaker 1
you couldn't get in the city without talking to me. You got to connect at every club, every hot spot in the city.
Are you from Colombia somewhere, Mexico somewhere? Yes, nigga.
Speaker 1 When you come here, wherever she's from, when you come here, put some respect on my name, talk properly, or you're not going to get into none of these spots.
Speaker 1 Listen, niggas have done a lot worse. Some of us was there for when we first started fucking off Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1 Like, Like when we first realized we could fuck y'all off of these apps.
Speaker 1 Like some of us was the fucking, I don't want to say the Christopher Columbus of that, because that would be the wrong terminology, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 You got to smoke. No, niggas was, niggas was pulling up, picking y'all up at the train
Speaker 1 with binoculars, looking
Speaker 1 pulling off on you, hoes.
Speaker 1 You hoes will be showing up a nickel and some gum
Speaker 1
by the corner. Niggas will fuck you and duck dubbed.
You're done. You're done now.
Make it home. Get off the property.
Get out the gated community. It was nuts back then.
09 was the time.
Speaker 1
So, yeah, exactly. So the black ball thing, it ain't the worst thing I've heard.
Sorry. I'm not blackballing nobody less than.
I've had people like, I've had stalkers.
Speaker 1
So, like, when I had stalkers, yeah, I would blackball you. You couldn't come to nothing.
But other than that, if I just don't know what to do. I don't come to see you there.
Speaker 1
I was in different places back then. Oh, okay.
And yeah, I'd be like, nah,
Speaker 1 that's why they got to mace you when they cut you, boy.
Speaker 1 Stop him. Hey, that boy move fast.
Speaker 1 He quicker than. Hey, you change your address?
Speaker 1 I tried calling, but we'll do it this way now. You do move fast.
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. You can't come to the cult club no more.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Shout out to all parties involved, man. May you not get blackballed from whatever city you're trying to sell pussy in.
Speaker 1
Oh, come on, man. God damn.
I'm not talking about her. I don't know if she's selling pussy.
And it don't even matter because once you get blackballed from selling pussy in one city, you
Speaker 1 started turning up on her shit, too. Are you right? Because I was on her shit.
Speaker 1 She went a little crazy.
Speaker 1
You got to get on her. Come on, this is a music podcast.
Sorry, come on. Come on.
Let's move on. Let's move on.
Parby, Parby. All right.
Is there any music? There ain't no fucking music. Not really.
Speaker 1 I mean, no.
Speaker 1
I do have music questions for y'all. Please.
Okay.
Speaker 1 Let's do it. Because we do all this hoot and annie about, well, I have done all this hoot and annie about wanting there to be some type of hip-hop artists union or de facto board and board members and
Speaker 1 gatekeepers of sorts, but people to speak in our better half and raise money and do all the things that leaders and board members do.
Speaker 1 If y'all were making y'all's hip-hop board, let's say consisting of 12 people, 10 people even,
Speaker 1
who would be on your board? I would start by taking some, like some, like I would have a producer, a MC. I want a name.
I know I'm thinking that. Preem would be my producer.
Master P.
Speaker 1 One at a time, please. I'm voting Preem.
Speaker 1
Preem's got to be on that board. Preem's on my list as well.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
I'm going Chuck D. Master P.
Chuck D is on my list as well.
Speaker 1 You said Master P?
Speaker 1
Master P would be on my honorable mention. I might put him in there.
I got to see what other names I come up with. I put Ninth Wonder.
Oh, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 1 I'm putting Ninth Wonder for sure.
Speaker 1 What is your board predicated on? What do you mean, what's your board? Just fairness in the music business or what? Like, I don't understand what the board is being.
Speaker 1 What's the objective of the board?
Speaker 1 Artist rights. Let's call it artist's rights.
Speaker 1 Got to put Master P on the board.
Speaker 1 Well, it's your board. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I'm not really a hip-hop guy, but from what I learned from him, I'll put Eric B on there. Okay.
Just how he handles his business behind the scenes is what I see.
Speaker 1 It's interesting.
Speaker 1 Need some execs, I think.
Speaker 1 Definitely Jimmy Ive.
Speaker 1 I'm kidding.
Speaker 1
I'm about to say that. I was about to get jumped up.
I just kicked you right out of our mouth connected when you were having this.
Speaker 1 Even though my answer might be frowned upon, too, I'll put Kevin Lowes on that list.
Speaker 1
Okay. I'll put Kevin Lowes on that list.
Why is it frowned upon? That's not a bad one. If you got reasons, I won't say it.
Oh, gotcha.
Speaker 1 I mean, he was only responsible for running what I think is the most successful rap label to ever live.
Speaker 1
At the time, where I think it was the best rap label to ever exist. If he could play nice with others, Dame Dash wouldn't be a bad choice.
Dame wouldn't be bad. Can't put him.
Speaker 1
If that's a big asterisk. I know.
Yeah, can't put him. Yeah.
But that would be the same vein, I was thinking. He'd be fighting fiercely for the rights.
It's just. So, yeah, no, but that's dope.
Speaker 1
A hip-hop board is not a bad idea. It's not bad.
We need West Coast representatives and Southern representatives, for sure. For sure.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Probably Punch or
Speaker 1 Top,
Speaker 1 someone from over there, I think, would be
Speaker 1 Dre or Dre or both. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't be mad at Luke. That's what I was just thinking.
Just as you said, Southern. Yep.
Speaker 1 Luke would be a good one.
Speaker 1
He already got ninth. I mean, so there's some.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Somebody from Atlanta.
Speaker 1
You definitely need a bunch of Atlanta. You need some Atlanta.
I'm not mad at Gucci.
Speaker 1 Gucci man?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Shocker one of them.
I want this board to get shut. There's a couple of niggas y'all saying a couple of shit.
You need that, though. You need some people in there to shake some shit up.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
But it also could. Gucci could kick rocks.
I wish I would put that nigga on my board.
Speaker 1 He's fucking crazy. But shout out to him.
Speaker 1
He used a Joe button. He made a lot of artists.
It's not about that.
Speaker 1
Only in this board conversation. I'm shouting.
I ain't say Jay-Z yet. There's a few names that Jay-Z
Speaker 1 hasn't been. It's not for sure for me.
Speaker 1
Some names where you go behind that door. Nas gotta be there.
Nas, yes.
Speaker 1 Jay and Dre would be, I'd have, I'd be concerned with. There's some point where I think as artists, you might worry that the person's so close to the bank that they become the bank.
Speaker 1 Like, like, you want people representing
Speaker 1 the everyday artists, and if you become too much of an exec and you're up too much, it's almost like you're not us no more.
Speaker 1
I'm not saying that's the case for them, but I could see how artists would feel that way. Do you feel like...
I'm too scared of them to say that.
Speaker 1
Do you feel like a person like Jay or Nas? Because Nas come off that he still has ties to the neighborhood or to the artist. Nas, I would say yes.
Do you feel okay? So
Speaker 1 you're just saying with
Speaker 1
Jay and Dr. Dre, I would be more, you know.
Because they have exceeded. Not just because of how successful they've been, but like there's a way that they are the exec.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 It's like
Speaker 1
it's like in a school, there's a teachers union, but principals can't be part of the teachers union. Facts.
Even though they still need to be protected. So they may have started as a teacher, too.
Speaker 1
Right. But still, like, there's a way that we got different interests right now.
Gotcha. And I can see how artists might feel like me and Dr.
Dre have different interests. Got you.
Me and G. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Fair.
Speaker 1
Not a bad board, though. Not a bad board.
For the most part. We come up with a lot of the same names.
I'm not mad at that. Yeah.
Watch me get a call over this fake board. Oh, you're getting called.
Speaker 1 For sure.
Speaker 1
I'm sure we omitted a ton of people that deserve to be on the board and apologies. Yo, I got more board names, man.
Please don't call me with none of the hoot nanny.
Speaker 1 That's a hard one to just freestyle to. You know what I mean? Like, we just came in.
Speaker 1 We didn't give y'all time to write it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 What else is important? What else is important? I really, because we were talking about Drake, and you can't talk about Drake without talking about Kendrick, apparently.
Speaker 1 At the end of the world, this is what happens when he's the only one that can read that board.
Speaker 1 At the end of the World Series, no, it's just at the end of the world. First of all, the World Series was amazing.
Speaker 1
Game seven. It was.
It was. It was.
I know Joe watched it. I texted him during the end of it.
I don't know if the rest of y'all saw it. I watched bits and pieces of it.
But the last.
Speaker 1
Oh, you missed the game. I mean, it was a game of games.
It was one of the better game sevens I've ever seen. I asked my dad to start in that game.
Speaker 1 I'd love to hear some of the series that he thinks are better than this one.
Speaker 1 I'm not ready to say that it's the best or one of the best games or the best game seven, but it's up there for the ones I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.
Speaker 1
That game is up there. Red Sox Yankees, when the Sox came back, was important, but it wasn't a nail biter.
Like, what made this great was that the whole series was a nail biter.
Speaker 1
There was an 18-inning game in this series. Both teams were on the ropes.
Both teams had chances to be champions. It went down to the eighth inning, the ninth inning.
Speaker 1 I mean, every inning, I mean, both teams had bases, they traded bases loaded and got out of it with phenomenal plays where one mistake, I mean, it was, I mean, the chess match from pitching, you know what I mean, including that basic intentional walk to get the double play at the end.
Speaker 1 It was not a real intentional walk, but it basically was when he was pitching wide outside the whole time. Yamamoto, who looked tired and had just played the night before.
Speaker 1 Yo, I was watching your timeline during the game, and you were tweeting what I was thinking was, yo, yo, Momoto better get out of here.
Speaker 1
He looked a little off. Yeah.
But that must have been for like a short stretch because
Speaker 1
then I don't know what happened. 10 seconds later.
They couldn't touch him.
Speaker 1
They couldn't touch him. Yo, he was painting the edges of the corners.
It was killing him.
Speaker 1 Yeah, both of shit, man.
Speaker 1
Nah, he went off. Listen, I know it was a good series because this was one of the only times I felt like the better team lost.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
There's no way I thought the Dodgers were going to win that game. I didn't either.
It didn't feel like that. Every time they showed, the Dodgers dug out.
They looked defeated and depressed.
Speaker 1 And then the fucking home run from Homeboy, who hadn't had a hit in a month in chains. And hadn't hit a left-handed, yeah, it was like.
Speaker 1
Then it's momentum. Then it's momentum.
I'm just impressed with Toronto's ability to put ball to bat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And if Homeboy was a little faster
Speaker 1 yeah hey they went oh it had to be tough it had to be tough it was to be tough it was blue jays fans yeah i got nothing to be sorry about that was a great game and you had chances i mean you could have won game six but that's why i'm sick if i'm numb the 18 inning
Speaker 1 game loss yeah
Speaker 1 along with the game six loss that maybe shouldn't have been a loss right and then they have that game seven go like that and you give a running game run but they but the they gave a running eight eighth inning and ninth I mean they had every chance to be champions and they didn't win I mean some point you got to just applaud LA and say they did being so close to Japan
Speaker 1 Go LA man. Wow you guys
Speaker 1 you fucking guys you did it
Speaker 1 you nailed it
Speaker 1
And I don't want to be that guy especially as a Yankee fan right they they paid they paid for what they got and they got it. Yeah, and Otani didn't didn't bomb them in game nine.
I mean in game seven.
Speaker 1 he actually he's the one that gave up the runs yeah in the two and a half minutes and didn't hit and was in scoring position and didn't didn't get the the the
Speaker 1 he didn't get a walk off he didn't even get a hit he didn't get on base i don't think the last two times he was up so look they did it at the end of the game though which is what i loved was did y'all see the nike commercial at the end of this game yes it was one of the best commercials I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1 It starts off, it's like right after the game is over. It immediately jumps to
Speaker 1 LA on the screen.
Speaker 1
It's putting like a, it it looks like a movie, like a whole movie, kind of old school movie style. Okay.
And it starts with a clip of I Love LA playing. Okay.
Speaker 1 And then it cuts off, because that's, which of course is the classic LA victory song and the one they played last year when they won. And then it jumps the squabble up.
Speaker 1 And it says, LA loves a good sequel.
Speaker 1 And then they run the credits, like a movie with all the players and all the positions, but it looks like movie credits. And it was amazing.
Speaker 1 Some of the Drake fans are like, this is another Drake disc,
Speaker 1
which was ridiculous. Do you think they had, because you know, typically they'll have the t-shirts, the hats, all that shit just pre-printed.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 So do you think if Toronto would have won, they would have had a Drake similar joint already pre-printed? That's an interesting question. You get what I'm saying? Like, that would have been...
Speaker 1
If I'm Nike, Drake has Nike. You know what I'm saying? I think that they had that already.
Well, I thought people were mad too. They were like, Drake has a deal with Nike.
Speaker 1
Why is Nike playing Kendrick when LA wins? To me, the answer is obvious. It's fucking LA they won.
The Dodgers are bigger than Drake.
Speaker 1 Don't tell Drake fans that.
Speaker 1
But yes. But people were talking about that.
But I think a Drake song would have been great. Yeah, I think they probably already had both of them on deck.
Yeah, because they definitely have clothes.
Speaker 1 West Africa is filled with Toronto Blue Jays winning series stuff right now.
Speaker 1 Walking back.
Speaker 1
Right now. It's nigga hats.
Seriously on right now, thinking, fucking
Speaker 1
Blue Jays are the chicks. They're in Santa Elizabeth right now with some Toronto Blue Jays shit off.
That you make it, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1
That's where they send the shit to. That's what they sent it.
They sent it to the Caribbean and West Africa usually when
Speaker 1 the shit that didn't work out.
Speaker 1
And now they're back talking about the Drake curse and sports. Right, because he was there at game six.
Like, we're going to bring it home. He had a Toronto accent on and everything.
Speaker 1
Like, we're going to bring it home. Let's get him out of here.
First time in the stadium.
Speaker 1 Really? I don't know. I'm talking shit.
Speaker 1
Probably, though. I ain't never seen him.
I don't know if he's been in the stadium before, but he definitely was on social media saying we're going to win tonight, which he should.
Speaker 1 I mean, again, people find excuses to diss Drake that are silly to me. But people were trying to make the Dodgers, Blue Jays, another Kendrick
Speaker 1 Drake battle.
Speaker 1 Did you see the Otani Sub back?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Back to Drake at the end when he was like at the.
Speaker 1 What did he say?
Speaker 1 This is a really big team, and we have some really big rings. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
I respect that. I love it.
I love it. I love it, man.
Congratulations to the Dodgers. For sure.
Magic Johnson, that entire ownership group.
Speaker 1 The players, fucking Freddie Friedman, fucking, what's my man's name that said he retired? Who retired now? Oh, Kurt Charles.
Speaker 1
Kurt Charles. Oh, is it? Are you president? Yeah.
Yeah, Kurt Charlie.
Speaker 1
He said he's retiring. Yeah, I think he is.
You can't go up that way. He probably should retire.
It's not a bad way to go out. Nah, dude.
Speaker 1
Put your hand in the air. Right.
Yeah. No bullshit.
And Magic said this is 18-3.
Speaker 1 That was impressive. Yes.
Speaker 1
Yep. That was impressive.
From the man from basketball.
Speaker 1
Shoosh. Executive.
Soccer. He got them shits on his toes.
That's what he said. That's literally what he said.
He said, I need my toes down. Start laughing.
He's crazy. Yeah, he's a winner.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah, he is. Congrats, Magic Johnson.
Yeah, congrats to LA.
Speaker 1 Go, LA.
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Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1
why why do you assume that? Yo, there's no albums. There's no new what is AI album, my boy, but we can talk about it later.
But listen, what he wants to do is no substance out there. We voted, and now
Speaker 1 this substance. Kaka.
Speaker 1 Kaka. I see substance here.
Speaker 1
I was looking at the Wall Street Journal and the London School of Economics monthly, weekly journal. Yeah, sure.
And I saw Jalen Green and Drea. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1
And as they zoomed into into Jalen, she made an investment. Oh, she made a huge investment, and it's returning.
What?
Speaker 1 And behind his long mane
Speaker 1 was
Speaker 1 a life-size tattoo, damn near, of Drea. Her whole face on his back.
Speaker 1
That's a choice. It's a choice.
And look, more power to you. That's the fire.
Speaker 1 Please explain it to me, Flip. Break it down for me, please.
Speaker 1 No, listen, there's some veterans out here that once they come into the field, they know what to do and how to do it and how to get you to do things that you never imagined on doing.
Speaker 1 Mark, no, you got a tramp stamp. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 He got an old name written down there somewhere.
Speaker 1 Never.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so she's one of them, yo.
Speaker 1 Man, it's just.
Speaker 1 I don't know who mentors Jalen. And look, if he's in love and he's happy, more powerful.
Speaker 1 Right?
Speaker 1
It's his wife mentor. Tana.
Tana. But Lord, get in there.
Somebody's whole face on your back. This just never works out well.
Speaker 1
I mean, you can always cover it. That's a lot to cover.
Or just change the face up a little bit. First of all, a lot of these girls kind of look the same anyway.
So, like.
Speaker 1 There's Matt Dreyer looking like that. Double ganger.
Speaker 1
Hey, yo, that's hilarious, dog. Nah, that should have been.
What she would ask.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't have a take on it. Too many people.
Too many people I know do this. What? Like, this is common.
Get tattoos of their significant other, pictures of their significant other.
Speaker 1 Yeah, like people you know.
Speaker 1
No, just people I've seen. I'm saying, I've seen it done is what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if your crew was in.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 Then again, I don't really investigate my friends' tattoo choices.
Speaker 1 Some of us get, you know, our area lasered, so, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Some of us?
Speaker 1 Are you on a new jersey, Flip? I'm about to be. I'm about to be.
Speaker 1
You're about to get the laser? Yeah, my wife wanted, man. I got to do what I got to do.
You know what I'm saying? I just can't see you doing that. Why not? I'm I'm hairy.
Speaker 1 I'm not doubting your eligibility for it.
Speaker 1 That's very metrosexual.
Speaker 1 It would grow back by the time you saw her again.
Speaker 1 Hey.
Speaker 1 That's why you're sweating, you bitch ass nigga. Look at you, strap you see.
Speaker 1
That's why you sweating. Look at you.
Look at it's cold there. You sweating.
You got cold sweats? Why you fucking watching my wife like that, nigga? That's my fault. That's my fault.
Apologize.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. Why do you think you can just say that and I can't say anything? You can say whatever you're doing.
You wait till the right moment. You can say whatever you're saying.
Speaker 1 Coming last year or the year before when I had the...
Speaker 1
It was a big blow-up. I shared something with you, and now you crack a lot of jokes.
Oh, wait, I thought I was just, this was just my comedic genius.
Speaker 1 I didn't know I was saying something you shared with me.
Speaker 1 I thought I was just Richard Pryor with this shit.
Speaker 1
My bad. I'll turn down.
You're just trying to tickle another man? No, I'll try to choke him, but then you got to be careful. That was like a tickle.
That was a tickle.
Speaker 1 Like the one you did with him earlier.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, some new shit.
Speaker 1 He wants some new shit.
Speaker 1
I'm just trying to listen. That's also very metro.
That is very. I'm trying to acclimate.
Is that the word? I'm trying to, you know, help me, Mark. I'm trying to.
I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1 best way to acclimate.
Speaker 1
I don't know what that means. I'm just saying.
Oh, hey, friend, let me tickle you.
Speaker 1 He seems a little standoffish. Let me tickle him.
Speaker 1
Fuck you talking. I'm trying to just get adjusted to my brothers.
That's all. By tickling.
Don't adjust to me. Yeah, don't.
Don't get it. Stay over there, nigga.
So,
Speaker 1 would y'all do this? I mean, like, for example,
Speaker 1 you are.
Speaker 1
I don't care how many degrees you have. This one's not going to, this topic ain't going to get it done.
No. Fair enough.
It's not believable that any of us here would get that tattoo.
Speaker 1 No, obviously not nobody's face. Even the married people here ain't doing that.
Speaker 1 Maybe if she was abducted by aliens,
Speaker 1 then perhaps. I guess my question is,
Speaker 1 is any tattoo appropriate? Like, I'm talking about names. Like, you're going to be with your partner forever.
Speaker 1 Would you do the name at least? What's her name?
Speaker 1 Are we talking about like her full name, her nickname, initials?
Speaker 1
It got to be something that can't be confused with nobody else. You can't write baby on there.
You also can't write Shade in full on a Pinky Tot.
Speaker 1
The spots that I have reserved for the tattoo is only butt so much that's going to fit. Shout out to my baby.
She's listening. I love you.
Speaker 1 I would get it. Who going gonna see it?
Speaker 1
I'm closer to this. No girl that's gonna see my body anyway.
What am I hiding? What am I hiding? You the only one about to look at my body to it's old and wrinkled and whack and pruny and done.
Speaker 1 If it make you feel good to see your name on something, I got a bunch of bullshit on my body.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't give a fuck. Ish? You don't have tattoos, right, Ish? Nah.
Speaker 1 You gotta get that black-black ink. You got the invisible ink.
Speaker 1 He the nigga that's gonna get a color tattoo.
Speaker 1 He gonna go get the colors.
Speaker 1 What's wrong with the colors? Nothing's wrong with this
Speaker 1 I'm asking
Speaker 1 You wouldn't get a tattoo at this age You're too old you feel right your complexion don't know him to get he was talking about getting a sleeve you can't see it Yeah, remember he's getting a no that's the niggas that get the colors No
Speaker 1 the lighter skinned niggas get the color tattoos though
Speaker 1 You got it you want you want so you won't get color anyway you you were looking at a sleeve before would you get your partner's name on on you or face or face face no um initials maybe why not the face face?
Speaker 1 Not my bad. Pimp, juice.
Speaker 1 Because then we would see her.
Speaker 1 That's funny. That's how it's done.
Speaker 1 That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 He didn't see the play.
Speaker 1 Nobody ever would do that. I'm not even putting that on nobody.
Speaker 1 I would do name, something like that.
Speaker 1
I would do my wife's face, actually. I would do my wife's face.
I would do it as part of everybody. I would do my kids, her.
Speaker 1
I would do everybody. Oh, like a montage.
Yeah, the whole collage.
Speaker 1
Yeah, man. Like some seers shit.
Yeah, the problem with doing tattoos of kids is that they look different. You know what I mean? So if I get older, so I'd have to wait until they were grown.
Speaker 1 So who is your wife? Yeah, but
Speaker 1 you know what I'm saying. I do.
Speaker 1 You're going to tell her that you wait.
Speaker 1
I'm not following you down that joke always, sir. I'm trying to make you all get together.
You already got me on the clip with the large professor.
Speaker 1
I looked on it and I was like, they picked that fucking clip, motherfucker. He tried to bounce back with the large professor after that quarterback take.
Anyway, anyway
Speaker 1 that was what sky's doing
Speaker 1 oh wait no that was hard all right come on um
Speaker 1 jante murray listen everybody's just having problems with their girls i would love to come in talk music but there ain't none ain't none i can tell y'all about the ai out my boy i would like to hear about it it's fine really yeah i feel the way about even even saying something about it.
Speaker 1 Did you buy it
Speaker 1 on accident or did you know it was that I hadn't bought it?
Speaker 1 I bought it and as it was downloading,
Speaker 1 I investigated. I see.
Speaker 1 When I'm hearing these AI people, they sound familiar to me. Yeah, yeah, because like it's a song and the post of a song of somebody I like.
Speaker 1
So you got me if I hear it and it's good. So I heard some shit on Instagram.
Somebody had it as a song. I went to find the album.
I found the album. Let me try to play some of it.
Speaker 1
I'm not going to say who it is because I'm not promoting some AI. I told you the other nigga got an EP.
That shit ain't bad. Yeah, but them getting you and them getting me is two different things.
Speaker 1 With all due respect.
Speaker 1 What's the difference?
Speaker 1 It's a difference.
Speaker 1
They got you too. No, they didn't get me.
I bought it.
Speaker 1
You didn't know your nigga was AI until we came here and told you. Yeah, no.
But you didn't either. So when you heard that.
No, that's not true.
Speaker 1
When you heard that song, you said, yo, who the fuck is that? That shit is fire. And you went and bought it.
You didn't know it was AI before you got that song. I was going to buy it.
Speaker 1
They had an album out. I saw the cover.
The cover looked fishy, but I'm already pressing download because this sounds like good stuff.
Speaker 1
And then I investigated. And yeah, it was definitely some AI shit.
But let's see here. Let's see here.
Let's see here. Look at this shit.
This is the scariest shit ever.
Speaker 1
And this is track two. I'm going to briefly play just a few of these.
Okay.
Speaker 1 But this is why something has to be done about this. You can't just go steal Whitney's voice or Luther's voice.
Speaker 1
It sounds like something you would play as a sleeper. Of course.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 This whole AI album sounds like that.
Speaker 1
I feel like I heard this before. Yeah.
Because you probably have heard it before. I don't say so.
Or something similar. Right.
Wherever they took it from.
Speaker 1 No looking behind consistency. Crying legacy in my mind.
Speaker 1 Don't sound bad.
Speaker 1 That's not bad at all.
Speaker 1 Trying to think who that satellite is.
Speaker 1 I can name a few people. A bunch.
Speaker 1 Don't noise, no doubt, just designate.
Speaker 1 He gives a lot of shots here.
Speaker 1 She's alright.
Speaker 1 Imagine me thinking I found something.
Speaker 1 I'm like, ooh, I'm about to kill the streets.
Speaker 1 Discipline over drama, baby. Discipline over drama.
Speaker 1 Peace over problems.
Speaker 1 Should sound like Beyonce background.
Speaker 1 I see what they're doing now.
Speaker 1 You still
Speaker 1
I'm turning off. Yeah, okay.
I'm turning it off.
Speaker 1 I'm conflicted about this because I don't necessarily
Speaker 1 like AI, but I do think there are ethical ways in which you use AI.
Speaker 1 If this is someone that like wrote the song and produced the song, but can't sing the song and had the machine replace his voice, I'm not all the way mad at that.
Speaker 1 Can he just give it to someone else like every other songwriter has done for the last time
Speaker 1 that can fucking sing or is down to collaborate with you or, you know, there's a million reasons why you might go this route. And I'm not all the way mad at that again.
Speaker 1 I just think that, yeah, I think that what happens when it starts to be
Speaker 1 the dominant thing? Like, we sit around and we talk about the companies all the time monopolizing shit and not paying their people there just dues, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 What happens when this becomes the majority, not the minority? I think as the tech gets better,
Speaker 1 the sound of the music is going to get better.
Speaker 1 We already talked about how chat GPT, the paid version versus the free version, like now when this shit could start really writing these songs, that you, a writer might not be needed anymore.
Speaker 1 Right now, you're given a scenario of the writer being compensated accordingly, which is dope. But what happens
Speaker 1 when the chat GBT could write the song, produce the song, sing the song? It's a whole bunch of people now out of work.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's a problem for a few reasons. Part of the problem with AI is not
Speaker 1 how useful we think it will be in the future. I think most of us agree on that.
Speaker 1 It's about the business being right. One, so if the business is right and you go and you do that or what parks are suggesting, then awesome.
Speaker 1 What business? You lost me. Like, I've talked about the UMG's, what is it, Udio, whatever the AI company is.
Speaker 1 They just made an agreement that we talked about briefly in the last pod where the people that the AI is borrowing from get
Speaker 1
compensated. But UMG is already giving motherfuckers a fraction of a billion of a billion.
So imagine when we say, yo, we did all the work. You just gone, we used your likeness to a certain degree.
Speaker 1
You think the compensation will be fair? Probably not. You get what I'm saying? There is a world in which it would be.
It's possible. Likely, no.
I mean, we're talking about corporate reality.
Speaker 1 I was about to say, yeah, I stand on the side of realism. No doubt.
Speaker 1 You talk for a living. There should be nobody that can come and take all of the words that you've modeled and go and create you.
Speaker 1 I would be against that.
Speaker 1 True,
Speaker 1 but now the talking is the talent.
Speaker 1
It's a distinction I have between ghost writing raps and writing for people to sing. Like singing is the talent.
Right.
Speaker 1 I mean, writing is a talent too, but if you're a rapper and you're reciting somebody's shit, you're just kind of delivering it more so than that being your.
Speaker 1
Okay. You get what I'm saying? Like, so I kind of frown upon one.
I don't really frown upon the other.
Speaker 1
I think it's more complex. Yeah, like I say, I'm just talking about minimalistic.
All right. So if I'm getting up here and I'm giving my opinion on a topic that we got on the board, cool.
Speaker 1 But if it's a general song that they could pull from a thousand love novels, you could pull from a million love songs to generate a song, who do we compensate?
Speaker 1
The million places that you took it from. Cool, which means it's going to be less than a cent.
For sure.
Speaker 1 Which plenty of people make a living off of less than the person that put a snare on the Confessions album was Rich for for life
Speaker 1 and also if if
Speaker 1 hundreds of thousands of people are all pulling from these sources them little pennies will add up cool but y'all just said that rbx and them are not being compensated accordingly based on a pool of tips back to your sniff is wrong back to your realism thing you're absolutely right you get what i'm saying like yeah what what faith do we have that they're gonna compensate these seven zillion very little uh uh uh uh sources that we pulled from very little
Speaker 1 but i do think that it is possible they could come up with a system though they could absolutely again this is all digital shit that that you could absolutely trace the roots for.
Speaker 1
It's not some complex old school shit where we're trying to fucking piece together some shit that happened in the 1800s or whatever. No, this has a digital footprint.
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 And for me, it's about the quality of the product and the art, too, because, yeah,
Speaker 1
you can pull people together and sounds together to make something that's new, but there's still something about the human mind and the human spirit that's different. Absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
But if it becomes better business to not do that, then companies at some point are going to do that. And that's what scares me.
Just like we could pull podcasters together and
Speaker 1 we could find someone to have my perspective or your perspective, right? Not just our words, but our actual point of view.
Speaker 1
And at some point, podcasting and journalism and paperwriting and everything is just going to book authors. All that shit is going to be gone if it goes down this road.
And that just scares me.
Speaker 1 And I know every generation has that fear. True.
Speaker 1 But yeah, and I know I'm old.
Speaker 1 I also just think that there's limitations to what the AI shit can do because I think that we become more invested in the person more so than just the music.
Speaker 1 People aren't just going fucking balls to the wall over Drake and posting all these bots and all these people aren't just doing that because they like the slaps. They became invested in the person.
Speaker 1 And then we're also discounting the whole entire business that is live performance, whether it's concerts, whether it's TV appearances, interviews, etc. AI can't replicate that.
Speaker 1 So I think that there could be a million great AI slaps, but that's only one. Recorded music, even pre
Speaker 1 digital everything has only been a maybe a third of the music business
Speaker 1 maybe
Speaker 1 i'm not gonna play no more of this even though
Speaker 1 not right now
Speaker 1 bro and this is new this is not fair imagine five years from now but i told y'all i was in the strip club i was in the strip club and ran into one of them techie techie uh people and they was like yo y'all need to continue that conversation on AI because essentially what's happening is yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 your everyday
Speaker 1
regular nobody can just pull Beethoven, put him here, pull Maestro, put him here. And now humans are competing with the best of the best of AI.
It's just going to be tough.
Speaker 1
It's just going to be tough. I'm not going to beat people down because I don't know how many musicians are listening out there.
I don't know how many people this actually concerns, but this is
Speaker 1 right this second scary.
Speaker 1 for sure right this second like i'm just i don't know what to do as a listener as a consumer we have made it a layup from the the introduction of the drum machine to auto-tune to sample packs and sound packs like we've just laid it up for the next generation to do this right like it's hard to be that's a great point that critical when we have been copy-pasting music for the past fucking 30 years i agree yes and no you still
Speaker 1 needed musicians to do that stuff. Agree.
Speaker 1
I think you'll still need musicians to execute this in a way that is meaningful. Got it.
And I guess that's what we'll find out. We will find out.
Yeah, for sure. That's what we'll find out.
Speaker 1 Speaking of live music, did anybody see Kaylani? I know I've been glazing folded, but did anybody catch Kaylani on Kimmel? No, no. Doing folded live?
Speaker 1 No, let's hear it. Oh, man.
Speaker 1 She bodied. This lady has really been working on
Speaker 1
everything. Everything.
Everything you can tell.
Speaker 1 Listen to how Kaylani sounds live, singing folded
Speaker 1 in front of
Speaker 1 washer machines and dryers.
Speaker 1 I love it.
Speaker 1
I love it. I love it.
I like her going to Kimmel too. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 And I like her getting right to it, not letting it be right. Let's go.
Speaker 1 Oh, I love when it sounds like the record now.
Speaker 1 Hey, all I can think about is just since I seen you last.
Speaker 1 She sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 Not with the vocals.
Speaker 1 Not over the song.
Speaker 1 Hey.
Speaker 1 When I told you to fall back. Listen to her.
Speaker 1 Sound like the record, yeah.
Speaker 1 Damn, they even better than the record if this is mastered and mixed.
Speaker 1 I can't congratulate Kaylani enough, honestly.
Speaker 1 So come pick up your clothes.
Speaker 1 Hey,
Speaker 1
listen, and I want to congratulate Kaylani. Let's hit the round of applause.
This is her first top 10, top
Speaker 1
top 10, top 40 record of her career. Make some noise.
Let's keep that applause going. Shout out to her.
Oh, we want to shout out Leon Thomas, too. I think the same applies for him with Mutt.
Mutt is,
Speaker 1 this is his first top 10, top 40 record.
Speaker 1 See, this kind of goes back to the AI conversation.
Speaker 1 How will these records get worked?
Speaker 1 How will the records that you played before Kilani,
Speaker 1 how do they have the impact of folded or Mutt if they're not someone to go out and pop up at these places and do different renditions that make you even more interested in owning this record.
Speaker 1 See, that's where I think the new generation is going to use social media in a whole different way than we did. Okay.
Speaker 1 I think you're going to see the Instagrams and the TikToks and stand-ins for, just like, you know, like in the old days when you had stand-ins for black singers, or in our era, you had stand-ins for the fat singers.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? CNC Music Factory Times, Martha Wash, all that sort of period. So I think they're going to find new ways to market records that might be even more viral.
Speaker 1 That's why I'm so scared because I think it might work. Why do you think it's not workable? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 If there's no no human to go out and do shit,
Speaker 1 how do we care about this record outside of this three-minute thing that exists or two-minute and 35-second thing? And
Speaker 1 they're putting things in place to avoid the humans being taken over.
Speaker 1 Folded is not folded if we don't have all these different pop-ups and renditions and people going on TikTok and all this different shit and her showing up places and other artists that are of her caliber or vocally, maybe even better in some cases, doing renditions of the song.
Speaker 1
It doesn't exist. I agree with that.
Oh, but that's interesting. A lot of popularity doesn't go to the world.
Speaker 1 This record doesn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1 Like Mark said, things are changing. So, with social media and the next generation, they may not go outside.
Speaker 1 They may not care to go and watch somebody live or watch someone live a live performance.
Speaker 1
That's where I was going. I'm right with Flip.
I agree with you, you won't be able to work these records, and that's probably to a detriment right this second. Or it's not.
Speaker 1 And these bots and shit, and even the whole bot argument that people have been having recently proved that, hey, we don't need the top 40 to make money necessarily, and we don't need records that actually need to be worked.
Speaker 1 We just need to prove that it's being listened to somewhere to cash in on it, and that's where I fear it's going. And what y'all say is
Speaker 1 from y'all, y'all say that, yo, once the machine is behind a song, They work the song.
Speaker 1 So whether they putting it on playlists digitally or they got it on TikTok, they got it it over here, they got it over there.
Speaker 1 That is a version of quote-unquote working the song. No,
Speaker 1 not to the same level.
Speaker 1
And it might be the humans pick it up afterwards. So, like, imagine if Folded were an AI song and Kaylani were AI artists.
Uh-huh. That happens, but then you still get the Neo remix.
Speaker 1
People are not going to take tanks and carry it to the next level. So, that might be how it gets worked.
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 But that's not true.
Speaker 1 If Folded were AI, I don't think we get Brandy, Neo, Mario, Tony, like artists. Even if it's a bop.
Speaker 1
Yeah. The record-ish play was a bop.
Like, there's going to be AI bops. Artists fuck with artists.
I'd like to think
Speaker 1 Neo and Mario and Tank and Brandy and Tony either fuck with Kaylani or got a call from a human saying, hey, can I send you something? Like, there's still that in the music.
Speaker 1 Also, aside from that.
Speaker 1 If Neo and all these people are covering an AI song, is that not still artists getting work? You know,
Speaker 1
I'm with y'all. I'm just saying, in the present moment, I know that's the case.
My fear is that in 30 years, that won't be the case. Not even 30.
Or 10, maybe even faster than that.
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? That suddenly. In 30 years, I will be slamming bingo down and cursing somebody's grandparents out.
Like, in 30 years, I'll be 75, 80 years old. My fight ain't gonna be this.
Speaker 1 Y'all got 15 more years, and maybe that tops of me coming in here to all the streaming, the AI past 65, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1
Hell no. Fair enough.
Dying in peace.
Speaker 1
Whatever the fuck they're making out there. If it's ice, ice, baby, 2.0.
Hey, sorry. Sorry.
Have at it. Have a blast.
Speaker 1
What else is there? Can you tell me about the Jante Murray? I think I'm on the edge of my seat. We can pull this over.
Oh, the bird shit. All right, the bird shit.
Speaker 1 Enough of this technology, future the world shit. Arguing with fans about this, you know, we're going to read it.
Speaker 1 Jante Murray is mad that, I don't know, fucking what he's mad at here. Let's read this.
Speaker 1
Baby mother. This is a mess.
Okay. Went out to the club.
Speaker 1
She chose the clubs. I guess he had had a conversation with his baby mother or his wife or his fiancé or whatever she is, but long term.
They're long term.
Speaker 1
And in that conversation, he was like, yo, I want somebody that's in the crib. I don't want somebody that's out in the streets and the clubs, yada, yada, yada.
And she gave him the spiel.
Speaker 1 No, I'm not even like that.
Speaker 1
My clubbing days are over. I'm some domesticated shit.
I'm in the house. I'm a homebody mostly, yada, yada, yada.
And then she had told him that she was going on a trip for work to Houston.
Speaker 1 And end up not working at all.
Speaker 1
And there was some concerts going on. She was moving around.
Her father died. She was shaking ass out there.
She left the kids with the mom. Yeah, left the kids with mom.
You know, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1
John Tay Murray got on the internet and said, he wrote some books. This may be a little long, but I'll give it to you anyway.
Pause.
Speaker 1
The fact that y'all went from, oh, she changed and she's living a great life and got away. Then boom, he only mad.
She outside.
Speaker 1 you wouldn't be mad if you living and got a family with the person that you've been asking for years to be real on what they want and they say a family and not be in the clubs no more because it's old then say they going to houston to work and see family but end up lying to me and avoiding me while in clubs unannounced y'all fans are sick I want the best for that girl and just want to be left alone from this shit.
Speaker 1 Y'all mad? Y'all can't bully me and accept the truth. Why wouldn't I be mad? She is sacrificing her son.
Speaker 1 She is sacrificing her son missing school for being in the club shaking ass and our kids having to be stuck in her mama's house When she never communicated to being in clubs At least send the kids with the daddy and not your mama.
Speaker 1 Y'all got this shit.
Speaker 1 Y'all know that girl best Y'all know that girl best self was with me loving her and all the lies and drama she came with and still was ten toes in with her about whatever against whoever.
Speaker 1
And lastly, stop imitating that man with the sass, man. Give us a bass.
Nah, this is some sassy shit.
Speaker 1 And lastly, let's dead that lame ass narrative of she don't work because of me. I bet she won't get on here and tell y'all I made sure she never wanted for money.
Speaker 1
Tried to pay any dollar for a production team for content. Tried to get her back in school to learn how to open up salons.
And I funded 100% and wanted nothing in return.
Speaker 1
That sound like a real ass nigga to me. Trying to turn Shorty from a girl to a boss slash queen.
I won't ever entertain this shit again, though.
Speaker 1 I just ain't never had nobody come tell the truth and all these fake narratives got put on a real nigga's name.
Speaker 1 Girl.
Speaker 1 He continues.
Speaker 1 He says to somebody, controlling,
Speaker 1 why?
Speaker 1 Why pay for a full-time nanny only for her to be able to have her time to work and do what she need?
Speaker 1 Proposed to someone constantly lying and saying she want to be one place, but really want want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 Sounds like a girl playing dangerous games to me and not trying to free up someone they really don't want to be with.
Speaker 1 I bet she won't tell you the convo of old girl saying in writing, I never came to her hosting, I never invited her to my party, how I'm going to invite that girl to a party, blank, because I'm not saying her name, and the two girls she deeply knows threw for me.
Speaker 1
Y'all are sick. I'm a real man.
And let me give you some advice. Your name is all you got.
Speaker 1 And when you got a girl that know all these narratives are fake and not even and not real on your name and won't come defend you but soon as someone mentioned her she quick
Speaker 1 i'm almost done i promise i'm almost done he's almost done be
Speaker 1 uh and someone mentioned her she quick let me give you some advice yeah oh she's repeating the same oh all right that's the end of that one he just repeats the same he's going through it yo
Speaker 1 it's sad uh no matter how much money what's sad
Speaker 1 it doesn't matter he's in la la land no matter how much money you have,
Speaker 1 the person's not going to change unless they're ready to change.
Speaker 1 Sometimes you put them in a position, they give you all these promises and all that because you fall in love with them. But they're not going to change unless they want to change.
Speaker 1 And you have to look within what you might be missing in the home. Nigga, what you might be missing? That she...
Speaker 1 Does she got friends? Is she outside? Is she hanging out? What, what?
Speaker 1 Niggas think they get all this money and put these girls in these big homes and just, yo, I gotta work. I gotta go play basketball.
Speaker 1
Stay your ass right here. And stay your ass right here.
It don't work like that, man. It doesn't work like that.
Not at all.
Speaker 1 I know a couple of them that fuck with some players, man, and they say how stressful it is just to be in a house and they have to do hobbies and try to pick up certain things and fuck the pool boy or the gardener.
Speaker 1
No, for real. That's tough.
Initially,
Speaker 1 before you meet someone, they want that lavish life. But once they get it, some of them regret it.
Speaker 1
I agree. Any advice y'all could give the young brother and some OGs in the game? I know what the fuck advice you'll give them, nigga.
Pay attention to your home, nigga.
Speaker 1 Well, first piece of advice, young man, brother,
Speaker 1 stay off the internet with this shit. Because no matter how
Speaker 1 gangster you think this sounds, how tough you think, how much you think you're getting at her, you just,
Speaker 1 you don't come off looking good when you do this. And that's no disrespect to the brother, but like,
Speaker 1 it just doesn't look good.
Speaker 1 There's a reason why you impersonate him in that voice. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
It's how I heard him. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? It's impossible to not sound like you. You can't not.
Right, exactly. It's unavoidable to sound like that.
Speaker 1 The second second piece of advice I have for him, again, is
Speaker 1 what hopefully say you was who you were before you got here. Like,
Speaker 1
to your point, like, people are who they are. Women got a right to go out.
They got a right to party. They got a right to be away from their kids.
All that shit.
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1 I don't agree with that. What are you doing? Locked in a house?
Speaker 1
Listen, Mark, listen. I had a butt coming, just to be clear.
All right. Pause, but like, that was crazy.
You left children and stuff like that. Okay, I got it.
You still allowed out.
Speaker 1
You are allowed out. But it's a deception.
Where are you going? Yeah, Houston.
Speaker 1
See, that's the thing, he's young, so she probably young. Yeah, right.
You're trying to tie down something at that age, ain't wanting to be tied down, but she said she wanted to be tied down. Oh,
Speaker 1 come on, you know that. You believe that?
Speaker 1
I don't know her. No, I'm not talking.
I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1 I agree, stay off the internet, but I think in his
Speaker 1 defense, yo, if niggas start slandering slandering your name and you don't have a way to get the real truth out, especially they grew up in this era.
Speaker 1 So I think him going to the internet is his version of protecting my name and protecting my persona out in the rural world.
Speaker 1 Do you think he did that?
Speaker 1
I think in a voice you read it in to be funny, no. But I think, but in a different voice.
I think that if he had an opportunity to tell his side of the story, he thought that that was it.
Speaker 1 Do you think that that made him look better?
Speaker 1
If I heard her side of the story and it contradicted that and he came in and said, yo, dog, she lying. She said she was going to Houston for work.
She didn't go to work. She was out in the streets.
Speaker 1
I was checking his look. You cute this weekend, yo.
I got to get into you now.
Speaker 1 Honestly,
Speaker 1
I got to get into this now. It's too much, too much this podcast.
You done fucked too many wives. What are you talking about right now? What are you saying?
Speaker 1 What they got to do with the price of tea in China, the fact that I fucked the wives is why I understand why this nigga don't want to be outside having his
Speaker 1 pardon me, take that out, please. Having his girl lying about where I'm dropping my kids off and what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 The fact that I fucked those girls now makes me aware of the things that are going on with these women that I fucked. Okay, I'm looking at you fucking these women differently.
Speaker 1 You're the guy that when the girl lies to homeboy and say, oh, I want to be
Speaker 1 it's just work. I'm going to work.
Speaker 1
You're the guy that put him on sneaker. Let me hear.
Yeah, why the fuck you understanding some shit now? You complicit. But he grew, he got, he's older, nigga.
Speaker 1 Nigga, no, the fact that I've been on the other side of that coin is why I understand what he's feeling. Have you been on both sides of the coin? Yeah, I've been on both sides of the coin.
Speaker 1
And that didn't stop me. That's real.
That's real. No, it didn't.
Understanding how he was feeling. No.
How did you feel when you grew up when it happened to you? The same way. Describe that feeling.
Speaker 1
Her. Because at that time, all I heard was sassy.
Stoop. Joe read it in sassy.
That's why I want your version. No, it was sassy.
All right.
Speaker 1
You read it in a man voice. No, I'm good.
You were saying it's sassy because he went to the internet, but it's not. Expressing himself is not sassy, Joe.
Speaker 1 He's expressing himself that you're
Speaker 1 tried to give this woman everything that she
Speaker 1
expressing yourself to strangers. You can come off sassy, yo.
I get it. Strangers type mean things.
Speaker 1 He don't know this nigga that he's talking to. Nigga, we watch you on television.
Speaker 1 We watch you on television.
Speaker 1
Oh, he added a dude. He added somebody.
Yes, yes. He added somebody, nigga.
Speaker 1
I didn't. I don't read that.
Joe Red didn't say that. I'm saying that's what makes me.
Yes, he added somebody with this thousand-word disclosure. He only added the
Speaker 1 second part, not the first part when he spoke
Speaker 1 that makes it better
Speaker 1 you expressing something yeah i'm trying to explain what it was but stop it don't he added the that was no no i don't think he doesn't add the boy i think that's what i'm saying to me talking to any stranger about this yo if a fucked your girl you can't get on the internet with a million words about how you feel about it Sorry, and if you have to do that, the internet looks at it like, oh, you can't get in touch with the bitch.
Speaker 1
I don't think a nigga fucked this girl. That's not what he's describing.
He's describing. That's even worse.
Speaker 1
No, nigga's not. He's describing, yo, my girl lied to me about where she was was going.
When I got with this girl, she said she was ready to settle down. Cool, you ready to settle down?
Speaker 1 I'm going to give you all of the things that you need to settle down and create a better life. You really don't want that.
Speaker 1 Why do you think that is? Why do I think? I don't know the girl. You think she don't want the life and is going to med school? No,
Speaker 1 at that time. She turned down like
Speaker 1 somebody gave her the life.
Speaker 1
She just changed her mind and she just wanted to do something else. It's possible.
I don't know. I don't know the person.
People underestimate living that life, though.
Speaker 1
Yeah, bro, I don't know the person. What I'm saying is, a lot of people say, yo, dog, I would settle down with this man.
I want to live my soft life. I want to do all that shit.
Speaker 1
And if he's saying I'm trying to provide that for you, and you still don't want that, he has a right to be mad. What the fuck are we talking about? He's a bitch.
He got a right.
Speaker 1 No, I'm not going to call him.
Speaker 1 I'm not going to call him mad.
Speaker 1
What I'll say, though, is he has a right to be mad. I agree with you, Ish.
I'm just saying I wouldn't vocalize that on the internet.
Speaker 1
Three snaps in the circle, ish. 47.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 And that's where he came from.
Speaker 1 He came from expressing
Speaker 1
expressing himself. 47.
Yeah, come on, man. Nigga, we're looking at act like bitches that we get off hey yo man at 47 you really shouldn't do it no i said you 47.
Speaker 1 he's 25 right yeah at 25 if i wasn't raised by who i was when i did sucker at 25 they said look at this suck ass but you still did it they didn't say off
Speaker 1 he's 25 let's give give him grace in the room to fuck up nobody said that but you still did it that's the point it's just saying
Speaker 1
You still did it. You still went on there to express himself.
We all agree he got a right to be upset. He got a right to his feelings.
I'm just saying it's not wise.
Speaker 1 I hate when niggas do what I'm doing.
Speaker 1
That's what we're saying. That's when it sounds like you're arguing against it.
If your feelings is hurt, right? You know how to express yourself by, you know, speaking and talking.
Speaker 1
On the phone to my friends. Marcus47.
Not on Twitter. That's all I'm saying.
What if you take your shit and add it?
Speaker 1
Number one, yeah. Number one.
What if you take your shit and add it into a speech, nigga? Because I've witnessed some news. Like, hey, you know what? Plymouth.
Speaker 1
Sometimes your lady will go to Houston. And she's like, no.
Sometimes we go to Houston and we gotta love them. We We got to drop them kids off.
Speaker 1 Where little Malcolm at? Come here.
Speaker 1
I'm not doing that. I never was doing that.
I was never on that type of time.
Speaker 1
But some people are, and that's cool. You know what I'm saying? But you just got to understand that.
But also, again, people got to write. I would love to hear her version of this, though.
Speaker 1
I would love to see the clap back. Partly because I'm a bird and partly because I imagine that she experienced that situation very differently.
She would be black ball out of all them Houston.
Speaker 1 No, she won't.
Speaker 1 Well, yeah, that's not true because she's somebody, right? Like, I'm not saying name, but she's somebody on her own right.
Speaker 1
She ain't gonna be black. Yeah, she's somebody.
Oh, she is. I'm having a conversation just in general.
But that's what I'm saying about her having a different take on this. So
Speaker 1
you wouldn't got a hot girl. Let's call it what it is.
But she makes content. I'm not saying a hot girl.
I'm talking about a known, a popular woman. No, no.
Speaker 1
I'm saying, she makes, to your point, she makes content. She does.
She's a hot girl. She would have made some.
She might have been outside. I mean, there's a thin line.
Like, flip, flip, flip.
Speaker 1
You a perfect example. These niggas are broken.
Yeah, what's up, nigga? You make content. Yes.
So if somebody says well Flip is in the club. He said he's working, but he was in the club.
Speaker 1
That might be your content. I'm just saying.
Show me the footage. I mean, I'll be using the lines.
And bigger than that. I use those lines.
The bigger point is... You said you get that off this.
Speaker 1
The bigger point is, yo, my phone was dead. And you lied about what you was doing when you were there.
We just going to skip over that. She said she was at work.
Speaker 1 Yeah, this nigga be agreeing with us and fighting with us.
Speaker 1
That's not what I'm doing, Joe. It's sound like that.
That's not what I'm doing. Yo, I agree with certain parts of the story.
Of him, I shouldn't go online. When you said that, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 I'm not going to dismiss the fact that what he is describing, if it is true, Shorty's in the wrong. Y'all saying that like he's a bitch-ass nigga fulfilling how he's feeling.
Speaker 1
He's not a bitch-ass nigga for how he's talking about. I'm not calling that.
He's saying online. He just said he's a bitch.
Not because of how he's feeling. Right.
Not the feeling.
Speaker 1 Because he expressed it.
Speaker 1
How you go about handling his feelings is going to make somebody call you a bitch or not call you bitch. I don't know him, so I don't know if he's a bitch or not.
I'm pardoning right now.
Speaker 1
But this comes off a way. It comes off away.
a That's the best way to do it. Coming from somebody who has come off a way.
Like, I ain't exempt.
Speaker 1 I'm selling you what they told me when I went on the internet and said, oh, you want to fuck that nigga?
Speaker 1 You can't do that.
Speaker 1 When you find out your girl or baby moms want to fuck somebody else, mute up.
Speaker 1
That's what I'm saying. And if you don't, you're going to come off a way.
At least log out.
Speaker 1
Put the phone down. Nigga, I was tweeting.
Word.
Speaker 1 we all got a word that's what i'm saying everybody had a word where they wrote some real like cryptic like two words i think mine was uh mine was oh man oh it's funny now i'm going down the rabbit hole i'm not even gonna expose myself i'm not even gonna expose myself but it was one trying to behind me all the time pause
Speaker 1 and i think he said to somebody this wasn't even my girl but i was like she was my girl and he said
Speaker 1 this is a Twitter classic.
Speaker 1 You look phenomenal. Oh, I remember this.
Speaker 1 And I was up and I tweeted. Phenomenal.
Speaker 1 You just wrote the word phenomenal. That's it.
Speaker 1 Like a mutt.
Speaker 1 But it was funny, though. See, my eyes was funny.
Speaker 1
It sounds so much like John. Phenomenal? Wait, I'm not.
Wait, I don't deny that. It's mutt.
Phenomenal, huh? It's mutt, nigga. Shaz.
Speaker 1 All right, now you share about what happened to you. Huh?
Speaker 1 And that's you.
Speaker 1
Them niggas are such bitches on that. I cheated.
No, no.
Speaker 1
I just posted a video of Carl Thomas. I wish I'd never met her.
That was it. Oh, no.
Speaker 1
What a bitch. Not my man.
What a bitch. You want a hug?
Speaker 1 Straight up my neck. Straight up my neck.
Speaker 1
Not you, y'all. Not my boy.
My fat boys break up. That is bullshit.
I wish I.
Speaker 1 What? Yeah.
Speaker 1 I've had a couple.
Speaker 1
I delete it quickly. That's crazy.
Not quickly enough. How quick? Yeah,
Speaker 1
two days? Once it's dead. There's no such thing.
If she said, it's too long. Got you.
It don't even matter. Because I want even nobody to know.
It was just like. What she hit you on said.
Speaker 1 You wish you never met me? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Her and her girlfriend.
Speaker 1
They started having an exchange. And this is the old Twitter.
This is 2000. Hold up, Zaya calling in.
Oh, what is this community? Calling to talk some shit.
Speaker 1 Yo. For the shoe.
Speaker 1 Yo.
Speaker 1 Peace, peace, peace, peace, peace. What's going on? What's poppin'? Peace and blessings, peace and blessings.
Speaker 1
Well, wishes to everybody. Same to you, same to you.
We got Zaire Franklin on the line.
Speaker 1 I thought we'd have heard from you during the win streak. You call it after a loss.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you know. No, it's after a win, though.
Speaker 1 Salute to your man, Ice.
Speaker 1 Yeah, Ice is not here, but the Steel Curtain did what they had to do.
Speaker 1 Respectfully, you know,
Speaker 1 they earned it. Yo, can I get a a word?
Speaker 1 Can we get a word from you on the news that just broke about the Sauce Gardener? Sauce Gardener to the shoot?
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, indeed, indeed.
Speaker 1 Good choice.
Speaker 1 Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Sound like a great jump.
Speaker 1
Hope you're ready to come work. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate it, Jets.
Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 I'll be going downhill from now
Speaker 1 to the season.
Speaker 1 listen
Speaker 1 I ain't spoke to you about the season y'all are having but I couldn't be happier for you I know how much you love all that shit I know how much losing hurt so to see y'all doing what y'all are doing and to have JT on my fantasy team
Speaker 1 I can't say enough about y'all boys I got the Cole's defense I'm on I can't say enough can't say enough about
Speaker 1 it Jones I've been taking care of him
Speaker 1 listen he your type he a sniper I ain't snitching I'm just letting you know No word. What you call it?
Speaker 1 I ain't snitching. I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1
Listen, me and them had the same realtor for a little bit. I heard a couple stories.
For sure. I heard a couple stories.
Speaker 1
Joe, I called to let you know I'll be in town next week. I'll be in town next week.
We got the bar.
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? I'm overdue. So I'm just giving you the heads up.
Clear your schedule. You know what I'm saying? Oh,
Speaker 1 I just told my girl I retired from those types of places.
Speaker 1
But no, no, no. I thought you were talking about pockets.
My boy is going to be a little bit more. I thought you come up here, yeah.
Speaker 1
My boy is in town. Got to show my boy.
He got to work. You got to work.
Speaker 1
I've retired too, allegedly. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, we got to go celebrate the season. Museum.
Y'all go to the museum. That's the only way we know how.
Yeah, no, we got to do it.
Speaker 1
All right, so say list. I'm going to get my permission slip signed.
And we out. We out.
I'm in there. You need a doc doesn't know what I got you.
Hey.
Speaker 1
My girl be listening, but I mean, still. Come on through.
All right, Ben. Say list.
I can't wait to see you in your gear. You know what it is.
Speaker 1
Yes, sir. Love, man.
Please. Peace Z.
Love always. PZ.
Speaker 1
Real happy for Z, man. Yeah, I am a Colts fan.
They're kicking ass. My team sucks, so I got root for somebody.
Yeah, for the shoe, man. I'm happy.
I'm happy for him. I am.
Unironically, for the shoe.
Speaker 1
Yo, they're scary. All right, so Mark, Mark, you tweeted, I wish I never met her with a call, Thomas Gift.
What about you? What about what happened to you? Just pick one of the times.
Speaker 1 I suffered in silence.
Speaker 1
I ain't do no public. Because you ain't know how to use Twitter.
Yeah, Twitter, social media, and all that shit. You still
Speaker 1 spray.
Speaker 1 I suffered in silence.
Speaker 1 He slipped Black Planet up. Yeah.
Speaker 1
He was in the AOL chat room fucking shit up. Oh, you know, you used to put the songs in your back and drop it.
Oh, for my space. Oh, man.
Speaker 1 You know, my thing, too, and then we can leave this because I don't want to be a bird or a part. But
Speaker 1 niggas love saying, why the girl even do all that if she ain't going to leave? Why you go through the phone if you ain't going to leave?
Speaker 1 Why you even talking to him about that if you ain't gonna leave I think the same be applying for niggas sometimes yeah you not leaving this lady
Speaker 1 you not leaving this lady you love her let her go to the club for you to write the dissertation you gonna get over that feeling by the time that the omelette is done exactly
Speaker 1 except now five million people know what happened and that's true that's don't go on the internet with that shit yeah yeah no it's true yeah my heart goes out to john ta murray it's now got me feeling bad for him my heart also goes out to big sean
Speaker 1 Oh, that's true. My brother.
Speaker 1 Why?
Speaker 1 And Janae.
Speaker 1
Both of them. Big Sean and Jane Coke.
According to the
Speaker 1 rumors, the reports. The rumors, the reports that say that they are separating finally.
Speaker 1 I thought they had been separated, but. But I think it's an official divorce now.
Speaker 1 Were they married?
Speaker 1 Nobody knows nothing.
Speaker 1 Janae posted a cryptic song on Instagram, and the reports just
Speaker 1 ran wild. Right.
Speaker 1 So that's where people are getting this from. So they're alleging that Janae and Big Sean are no longer.
Speaker 1 I'm saying,
Speaker 1 you know what it is? I'm rooting for couples because we have so few. And once you get past six months and then you get past a year,
Speaker 1
I start to think this might work. Then once you get to like two years, I'm like, oh, this is like.
They got like 10, don't they? Yeah, right. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 And so each year you get more and more faith and more and more hope invested in them because there's so few people that work. I'm on the
Speaker 1 girls' side in this when these things things go this way. What you mean? He fucked up? Not that he fucked up, but it don't take 10 years to know if you want to spend your whole life doing somebody.
Speaker 1 How long did it take about seven, seven and a half?
Speaker 1 Mark,
Speaker 1 we never got physical up here.
Speaker 1 Me and you kind of be vibing, but.
Speaker 1
You laughed at the woman. I was a slow down.
I walked it right there.
Speaker 1 I walked in right there.
Speaker 1 I'm just saying, and no, it don't take seven years. It don't take seven and a half years.
Speaker 1 I think that women have the right to, if they feel like this relationship is just going too long and nothing's happening, like you really ain't busting the move, I feel like they have the right to
Speaker 1
step away from that and say, fuck you. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. Like 10 years?
Speaker 1 And I knew that little Charlemagne interview wasn't going to go over right in the house. See, if it's going to take seven to 10 years, you can't do interviews about it.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Right.
Charlemagne got right to him. Hey, man.
Speaker 1
That's why you shouldn't do interviews. He said, hey, man, what's taking so long to get married? Why haven't you yet? Can't answer no shit like that.
It's tricky. She's watching.
It's only one answer.
Speaker 1
And you know that that's happening. You know that that talk been happening in the house already.
So you got to be careful with that. Again, I don't know any of Sean and Janae's business.
Speaker 1 I love them both, so my heart goes out to both of them.
Speaker 1 It's sad. It's sad no matter how that happened.
Speaker 1 But how long you want somebody to wait?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. Forever.
Speaker 1
Yeah, right. Since a nigga who've been married for 34 years.
As long as you love me, wait. You did it in the RB.
Speaker 1
You married before you got finished high school. Instantly.
Nah, I'm married after.
Speaker 1
I'm married early. I'm married early.
You know what I mean? I'm happy. I'm happy I did it.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 You couldn't have run that game, but for so long.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Myself included. I'm just saying, at some point, you run out of field.
Speaker 1 What you think of you?
Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. We're looking at you.
Speaker 1
You're the next one to get married. We're looking at you.
Every pod, I come in here and talk marriage shit, and now they think that it's like a pod narrative. Oh, for real?
Speaker 1
Yeah, they think I just come in here talking shit because I'm never going to do it. That's what people think.
Oh, no, no. No, no, no.
He gonna do it.
Speaker 1
I didn't get that. People think that because I speak so open and freely about it.
So
Speaker 1 I'd rather not speak open and freely about it, and I don't want my partner to feel like I think it's a joke because I don't think it's a joke. And I love you, baby, if you're listening.
Speaker 1 Got that respect.
Speaker 1
I don't think it's a joke. I'm lucky and blessed to have found the person I want to spend the rest of my life with.
That's true. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 You know who else loves their partner? Hey, that's how my son gets the slip side.
Speaker 1 Hey, my son gets the slip side. He put it in.
Speaker 1
That's how you get the slip sign. He is so dumb.
You so fire? I didn't know you was going with this nila. She's so dumb.
Is she going like that? Yeah, she looked. Shout out to we love you.
Speaker 1 If you're listening, baby. See, right out there.
Speaker 1 She's listening. You know what I'm saying? He just called.
Speaker 1
He got to get the slip sign. So he just bodied it.
You know what? Slip sign. That's what you're saying.
You get a permission for me. I ain't no point.
Paul me. Paul me.
Speaker 1 Yeah. About you, Ish?
Speaker 1 I think everybody do what makes them happy. That's true.
Speaker 1
You really try to go to be a politician. I ain't going to lie about that.
Professor-ish, nigga.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we got Morehouse.
Speaker 1 Hey, hey, I love you.
Speaker 1
Fuck me. I don't give a fuck.
Watch that bottle. That's a great non-answer.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1 I think that
Speaker 1 if that is what somebody's objective is, then by all means, they have the right to do what they think is going to make them happy.
Speaker 1 And if it's not their objective, they have a right to do what makes them happy. There you go.
Speaker 1
I voted for everybody. There you go.
Get out of there, man. Let's move.
Speaker 1
That boy good. That boy good.
Mr. Williams.
He's better than me at that shit. Yeah.
Speaker 1
If you give it just a surface answer, it'd be so fire. He's serious, too.
That's not a surface. I mean, we all know that people are going to do what they want to do.
No,
Speaker 1 I think that happiness I'm talking about. Like, yo, if your happiness is predicated on that, then rock out.
Speaker 1 Do you feel like somebody should be in a relationship that long with someone that they don't plan to marry? Do you believe in that?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think if those two people are happy in what they're doing, then who's... But she wants to get married and he doesn't.
Speaker 1 Then that's a different thing. I think if
Speaker 1 I said the two people, if the two people are content with where they are in their relationship and they're happy in doing that, I don't think it's society's business to put no time stipulation on nobody else's relationship.
Speaker 1 Even if she's like dropping clues about it and
Speaker 1 if the woman is
Speaker 1
set on that, then that's a conversation they need to have in their household. And if they can't agree on it, then they add a crossroads.
They gotta leave. Then they add a crossroads.
But you Gucci.
Speaker 1 Who? Me? I didn't hear what you said.
Speaker 1
I'm fine, my nigga. Hey.
Yeah, I tell you, he better than me. You got another good shot.
You had a nigga look.
Speaker 1
I'm not playing with you. You be so serious.
You scary. Don't worry, nigga.
I'm going to bring some
Speaker 1
Casa Azuli as shit, man. I'm going to get you something nice.
I'm going to bring some. Some tequila? I'm going to bring some television.
But not just any tequila.
Speaker 1
I'm going to bring some Casa Azul for me. Okay, well, well, that's my man.
Let me ask you a question. Ish, remember, because we talked about it on the Patreon.
Remember, Beyonce got some wine or some.
Speaker 1
Hold on, some whiskey, yeah. Let me bring you some of that Beyonce whiskey to this shit, man.
What's the name of it?
Speaker 1 I don't recall.
Speaker 1
I noted it easy. I thought she would have tried it.
No, I never tried it.
Speaker 1
We're going to try it at your shit, though. That's right.
Cool. Gotcha.
Speaker 1 Take it. What about Beyonce Whiskey? Some 25, 21.
Speaker 1 25, 21. Year.
Speaker 1 The year?
Speaker 1 Oh, you on some 5% of shit? I was saying.
Speaker 1 I was getting wedded. I thought you met in the year.
Speaker 1 I thought you met in the year 2521.
Speaker 1
I was like, oh, that's a good one. Oh, yeah.
He's coming in.
Speaker 1 He's like a barbarous. You think you're coming back? I'm talking about the whistle.
Speaker 1 I said some shit like that. Lives in my homes.
Speaker 1 What he's saying.
Speaker 1
I said, what that means? I'd be having to ask. I don't know.
What he said that meant?
Speaker 1 He told me. Something about
Speaker 1
God forgive him. Oh, it's not for the law.
Stop filing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Thanks, guys. Look at both of y'all.
Speaker 1 Y'all trying to go back.
Speaker 1 You want to know the truth? Yo, but honestly,
Speaker 1 since you bring out the truth between y'all two, Ice and Mona
Speaker 1 and kind of Parks.
Speaker 1 I mean, this is the turn.
Speaker 1
No, peace. Pour pod is taking.
Yo, when I first came to the beach. Pourpod is taking a turn.
Yo, when I first came to the base. No, it's always been this way.
Speaker 1 And Parks hit me with the peace to the gods.
Speaker 1
Well, no, because this was a closet 5%. I'm not a 5%er.
You are a 5%. I'm not a 5%er.
You're 5% asked? No, no. Yes, you are.
Speaker 1 Yo,
Speaker 1
you are. I'm not 5%.
Why did you deny that? Yo, dog, I'm not 5% or ask. She don't allow that shit to happen.
I'm not Muslim-ish. I'm not.
Speaker 1 She said, you finish with all that before you step back on.
Speaker 1 Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1 father son the holy spirit yeah
Speaker 1 so yeah he's closet and ice is kind of closet like they don't you got to catch ice in the street to know that he surround himself
Speaker 1 with the brothers he looked comfortable in the bow tie shiny suit he wears that outside yo
Speaker 1 he do
Speaker 1 mark we know about because philly that whole philly mark and mona shit this pod has taking a turn oh yeah i'm hoping on the advertising ears from philly the advertisers just see the numbers man thank god they're not listening A lot of listeners in Philly.
Speaker 1
Oh, my lord. A lot of listeners.
A lot. Anyway.
Shucks, Philly. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1 you wore your IKEA hoodie.
Speaker 1
Oh, this one? I got a couple sales. Oh, them Philly niggas was ordering that shit.
Yeah, come on, man. You're welcome.
Speaker 1
That's support. Yeah.
Staff.
Speaker 1
You got to get a little promo code. I know.
I will. I need to get a free hoodie.
I want to keep researching it.
Speaker 1
This is one of my Patreon topics, but in one of the bodybuilder crews, there's this type of beef going on. Ooh.
Where I don't know if y'all y'all are
Speaker 1 watching the community, I'll watch some bodybuilding concept.
Speaker 1 All right, come on.
Speaker 1 Ma, he's begging me. No,
Speaker 1
this is too easy. No, he's setting me up.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
No, no, no. You look.
You look.
Speaker 1 Come on. Come on.
Speaker 1 Let's have a fuck. Come on.
Speaker 1
I'm too good at this. This is too easy.
This is making fruit. No, no.
I need a challenge.
Speaker 1 Well, the problem is you'd be body shaving him.
Speaker 1 No. The funny shit,
Speaker 1 itch better not laugh one more time during this conversation why though oh why though you know what he asked huh why though the mirror's in the bathroom what that mean
Speaker 1 you act like you skinny motherfucker you not nice you yo you bring up body and like you your body look like the toothpaste that
Speaker 1 when i look like toothpaste nigga you don't laugh for the whole body
Speaker 1 stomach your body you look like zinny chase nigga the fuck is you talking about your body ain't nice because you've been in the gym for two months Ugly naked nigga. Niggas seen you naked.
Speaker 1 Don't you laugh at me? Niggas have seen you naked. You look like shit.
Speaker 1 You don't laugh at your weariness.
Speaker 1 You wear tank tops in the pool. You wear shirts and hoodies in the pool.
Speaker 1 You don't talk to me as you can.
Speaker 1 You wear the hoodie in the pool.
Speaker 1 Yo, your body ain't nice, nigga. Who the fuck is you talking about, nigga? What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1
Take it through. Are you tasting? Let's do it.
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1
So take it off, nigga. So take that Tad T off.
You're sexy. You fatter than me, and I wear more than you.
Speaker 1
You're taller than me. Are you going to take the tee off or no? Don't laugh.
No. Huh? No, I'm not.
Toilet shit ass nigga.
Speaker 1 Don't laugh again. When it comes to body shit.
Speaker 1
Don't laugh again. I get calls all week about how you steal candy from locations.
Don't talk to me about body.
Speaker 1
Don't talk to me about your body ever again. You steal candy.
I can steal. You steal nothing from nobody.
Don't talk to me. This came here again.
Took the whole candy bowl.
Speaker 1 Your body, don't talk about it.
Speaker 1
Make him laugh. Yo, dog, tell you.
Your little ugly body, mute it up. Joe, you not sexy.
So take your shirt off. I don't want to take my shirt off.
Speaker 1 Take your shirt off.
Speaker 1 Hey!
Speaker 1
You still take it off. You got a baggie job, bro.
You still got to go.
Speaker 1 Look at my stomach.
Speaker 1 Nigga, sit down.
Speaker 1 That's what you get. Nigga, always want to.
Speaker 1 Laughing on the joke.
Speaker 1
If you're not going to take it on, I don't want to talk to you. I know you won't.
Nigga, my shirt tight and your stomach stick out past mine.
Speaker 1
Fuck what you talking about. Nigga, you've been in the gym for two months.
You think you Lou Ferrigno now? You ain't Shamar Moore, nigga. You Shamar Less.
I'm Lufa Rigno if you standing next to me.
Speaker 1
No, you're not. I'm Lufa Rigno if you walk in the game.
No, you're not. Then take it off.
You not, though. Then shut the fuck up, though.
Speaker 1
Exactly. Bad body-built-ass nigga.
And what you got? A good one?
Speaker 1
Yo, your body is fucked up. You got a long ass torso with short legs.
Looking like T-Man. Are you still on this?
Speaker 1 Y'all niggas is wild. That nigga's a nutcake.
Speaker 1 I just heard too much laughter.
Speaker 1
I heard too much laughter. You You steal too many sour pals to laugh like that.
Yo, tell you and your flunkies to keep you in the middle of the moment. Tell you in your conversation.
Speaker 1
You still know. Streets is talking about you.
You still nalators. Mute up.
We talk about body, you bad bitch.
Speaker 1 I know. What are you? You sexy?
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
To who? It's still still not. To my baby.
I don't want to be. Cool.
That's it.
Speaker 1 That's it, though. Holy shit.
Speaker 1
That's it, though. And that's not it.
All right. If you say so.
Speaker 1 If you say so.
Speaker 1 And I'm not.
Speaker 1 So what was happening in the body fellow community?
Speaker 1 I went about the candy.
Speaker 1 And why you held that in, nigga? There's a lot to us back in. There's so much.
Speaker 1
No, it was too much laughter. Why you held that candy shit in? It was too much.
I went to
Speaker 1 the house restaurant. It was just too much to get.
Speaker 1
Who's Osan? Osan. And for them to have that conversation is goofy.
Yo, he just came in here taking the candy.
Speaker 1
I know what you're talking about. It's the only person you can be talking about.
So you paid for the candy. No, nigga, it was free candy that I took after that shit.
Halloween ain't for you, bitch.
Speaker 1 How much candy did you take for somebody to take?
Speaker 1
No, he, osan, know I like candy. So I'm like, yo, let me raise your candy thing.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Key, key, key.
So for it to make a conversation later on, it's goofy. Or it was a lot of candy.
Speaker 1 Fuck out of here, nigga. You can put bags in the bag in your pockets.
Speaker 1 Nigga, it's like this.
Speaker 1 Come on.
Speaker 1
I'm down with you, nigga. Eat your sweets, boy.
You know what? What the fuck is we talking about? So what was happening? No, I'm not in the bodybuilding community.
Speaker 1 No, I'm not in the bodybuilder community.
Speaker 1 Just so we're clear,
Speaker 1
but I follow them. So it's one of the big clicks, but we'll talk about it on Patreon.
But it's one of the big clicks.
Speaker 1 One of them wanted to start their own line of clothing and
Speaker 1 protein drinks and just their own line of shit.
Speaker 1 And he wanted to wear these, wear his clothing in the group, in the gym with the the audience that they built. Sure.
Speaker 1 His story is, because it's multiple stories, but his story is the gym crew was like, okay, that's fine, but if we're using our resources to promote everything you're doing, then you have to pay us.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Makes sense?
Speaker 1 That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 Apparently, there's a big blow-up about it.
Speaker 1 What is the other perspective that I got to do? Did he talk about it? Do you have any like that? Yeah, but I'm, but it's a lot of back and forth, so I'd rather do it on Patreon. Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1
A lot of people don't even understand what the fuck I'm talking about right now, but it's a lot of back and forth. That's an interesting fight.
Super interesting.
Speaker 1 I found another
Speaker 1 fight that's similar to this
Speaker 1 amongst the content creators. There's a few of these going on.
Speaker 1
It's always interesting. And his fight, the other side of that is I'm a part of this crew.
I helped to build this crew. Whatever we're doing, whatever numbers we accrue,
Speaker 1 I'm already, I've helped. So for y'all to charge me, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1
For y'all to charge me to wear some shit that I want to start and I'm asking for y'all help, that's corny. Right.
So if I came in here and promoted my Patreon, Marco Marhill Official, every week,
Speaker 1 which has exclusive extra and early content, you would not expect anything because I'm already baked into this community.
Speaker 1 Yo, Mark is good.
Speaker 1 Mark, chill the fuck out.
Speaker 1
It's a question. Yo, Mark promoted that shit.
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1
Everywhere you get a chance. I'm surprised that shit.
He be bodying that shit, too.
Speaker 1
Thank you. And your timing is getting better.
But I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1 that would be be the thinking.
Speaker 1 No, if you're going to do that, then pay me. Right.
Speaker 1
But if a nigga making the bulk of the bread, he's not going to care, nigga. He don't give a fuck.
And that's part of the challenge. Yeah, a nigga making the bulk of the joint.
Speaker 1 That would give Joe a nickel.
Speaker 1 And I'm going to keep saying it.
Speaker 1 I think everybody's going to be able to do that. That nigga's promotional Patriot.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't be able to sleep
Speaker 1 depending on...
Speaker 1 Nine times out of ten, I wouldn't be able to sleep. Like,
Speaker 1
you want your people to have their own. And to thrive.
thrive and be able to thrive. And if you can help, I'm with helping.
Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1 flip, you ever thought of it?
Speaker 1
This nigga crazy. What I said wrong.
You're right, you're right, but you just, you're that nigga, you're right, you're right. That's also a different scenario.
Speaker 1 I do think you want your people to strive, but I do also think that there may be limits, not to striving, but there may be limits.
Speaker 1 You're not going to let a nigga just come in here with his own situation and
Speaker 1 like it's just one that
Speaker 1
900 times. we promoted everything that you do of course, but we promote Amani's shit.
Yes, his shit. That's on that's if you came in here and you told everybody in here to wear your shit
Speaker 1 every time we work out or every time we pod, that's that would be easier for you to say. No, I'm just saying that's a different conversation than homeboy wearing his own shit.
Speaker 1
That's what's your homeboy's wearing his own shit. That's one thing.
Because if he's making the click wear his shit, then that's something different. I also think it's slightly different.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because this is the clique's shit together
Speaker 1
we own. That's what I was gonna say.
We bust this down as a clique. Oh, I got it.
You can't go take your own brand, bring it into the shit that we collectively built and funnel the shit back.
Speaker 1
You can't do that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
If they got, if the clique,
Speaker 1 I don't operate like that, but I'm standing for
Speaker 1
promoting his shit, then that's something to do. I see the difference.
If a nigga came in here and had a situation, I done seen you stop shit like, yo, nigga, now we're not talking about that.
Speaker 1
Shout out to light to that. I don't give a fuck if that's your situation or not.
You stopped that before, bro.
Speaker 1
Stop conversations. If a nigga used the platform to promote other shit that can get them compensated, you have said, nah, nigga, we not doing that.
I don't know where that come from.
Speaker 1
I don't know what you represented. I don't know what that is.
And you're not going to use this platform to do that. You're talking about hosts or guests.
I'm just asking for clarity.
Speaker 1 I don't have an opinion on that.
Speaker 1 He's talking about when some of the hosts up here act like crackheads and go take ad money from a nigga in front of the Port Authority playing three card money and come in here wanting to talk about this crackhead in front of the Port Authority playing three card money.
Speaker 1 Well, I'll say, hey.
Speaker 1 You're not wrong.
Speaker 1
I just want you to understand both sides. That's what I'm saying.
But that's a different situation because in this the bodybuilder thing that he's describing, they all own the content.
Speaker 1 In this situation, he owns the content.
Speaker 1
Honestly, I agree. I agree with him because when he explained it, like, yo, this is a big platform.
I also think he's very generous.
Speaker 1
Extremely generous, but I would prefer when listening to him, knowing what he's done. Oh, because then that's what they told him.
That's what they told him.
Speaker 1 They said, we will charge you, and you can wear whatever you want. They gave him a layout of options, and it wasn't all that.
Speaker 1
Port Authority. Oh, he can't wear his shit.
No, you can't. No, he can't.
That's why he can't pass in the No, he cannot wear his shit. They're saying.
Well, not without the business getting right.
Speaker 1
That's a little crazy to me, but I think that's a good thing. That's a lot, man.
Just let people do their thing. Again, thank you for your generosity.
Speaker 1 I just let the network do their thing.
Speaker 1 I love
Speaker 1
it. I don't know if these people are friends.
I don't know anything about that. Of course.
Speaker 1
And if we not friends and I don't love y'all and we only business partners, then I 1 million percent understand. That's a different maker.
So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 What's the difference if Homeboy came in with some Lululemon or A-Lo on or something?
Speaker 1
In their situation, it might not be none of that. It might be you can only, over here, you can only wear this, what we all do and own.
You maybe can't come wearing. Oh, that's something different.
Speaker 1 Maybe.
Speaker 1
Again, I have to hear the clips because there's been a lot of back and forth. I'm not all the way up on what everybody said and thinks.
I just thought it was super entertaining and compelling. It is.
Speaker 1 It is very interesting. And still, if you come in here wearing A-Lo, I'm freestyling right now because I didn't get this from them.
Speaker 1 If you come in here wearing A-Lo, then you came in here wearing A-Lo, not something that you directing all of the money back to you. You're circumventing the situation we have.
Speaker 1 I think it also depends if the click has their old shit.
Speaker 1
If the clique sells blah, blah, blah. T-shirts.
They don't.
Speaker 1 It's only this click's shit.
Speaker 1 It's not somebody coming bringing their own shit in, Is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 And if I come and bring it in the shit that the click already sells as an alternative,
Speaker 1
that makes sense. That's different.
The details matter in this situation. Details definitely matter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that.
Speaker 1 1,000%.
Speaker 1 Man, I love when the energy picks up, man. When you two start talking about each other's bodies and who's sexier and who's going to take the shirt off and what each other's legs look like.
Speaker 1 For the record, I never spoke on any of that.
Speaker 1 That was a one-sided thing.
Speaker 1
You spoke about his body. Said that nigga was built like a two-piece, nigga.
That's what you said, but my man, you said it.
Speaker 1 They definitely.
Speaker 1 Before you came in, they were arguing over who looks better naked.
Speaker 1 You came in at the right time.
Speaker 1 It was very spirited.
Speaker 1
Y'all niggas, y'all niggas, y'all niggas argue about anything, son. That's the best part of watching.
I love that type of friendship. But we wouldn't if he don't laugh.
It's y'all. You do.
Speaker 1 But you participate. You waited on his.
Speaker 1
You told me it looked like melted ice cream. Yeah.
After he said what? And you roasted it with me.
Speaker 1
My nigga, I'm sitting here laughing at a topic. Yeah.
And you don't got jokes like that on the back of your head, nigga. You've been at them jokes.
I said, don't.
Speaker 1 Them shits didn't come off the back of your head. You laughed.
Speaker 1
I said, don't. Nigga, you got, nigga, you got dementia.
You don't remember shit. Them shit didn't come off the back of your head like that, my nigga.
Speaker 1
You was going too crazy like you stored them jokes. You've been thinking about it for a while.
You had a few stored up. My body was on his mind.
Speaker 1 You talked about the length of his legs compared to his stomach.
Speaker 1
You said you look like Vinny Chase? Yeah. Vinny Chase.
And I don't like to do that because I know it's just insecure about people people that work out. I'm not that.
That's not true.
Speaker 1 That sounds crazy. Right back at it.
Speaker 1 Not a trainer.
Speaker 1
Forget it there. Why would you say that? Never mind.
Never mind. I'm wrong.
It's works out too. That's why you chose a female, a woman trainer, right?
Speaker 1 Fuck, you be just saying shit.
Speaker 1 You do work out.
Speaker 1 That's my fault.
Speaker 1
They had a whole exchange about this three weeks ago. He had a woman trainer.
He does work out.
Speaker 1
He's doing like steel. So I'm just looking for my phone, big dog.
We don't need a phone. Tracy Morgan.
Speaker 1 I need to talk about Tracy Morgan for a minute, man.
Speaker 1
As Flip would say, this thing is a legend. I love Tracy Morgan.
I love Tracy Morgan. A comedic genius, man.
I love them on 30 Rock.
Speaker 1
He just popped up coming out of a sofa restaurant in Harlem with his new girlfriend. Shout out to him.
I'm glad he's found love. Who says that that's his girlfriend? Fair enough.
Speaker 1
With a woman who has been deemed his new girlfriend. He's definitely holding hands with her.
I think he may have acknowledged it as his girlfriend based on the media reports, but you're right.
Speaker 1 I can't confirm that because I didn't hear it myself.
Speaker 1
Semantic man, Joe. No, but it's a great point.
It's a great point. It doesn't negate my point, which is it was not the woman who he was with a few years ago who gave him a kidney.
Speaker 1 That's what I know for sure. Her name was Tanisha Hall, was it?
Speaker 1 Anyway,
Speaker 1 in fact, check me on the name if I'm wrong, we'll beep it, but I think that's right.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1
he was married, got divorced, met another woman, found love, found the woman he's going to be with. Again, Love Woods.
Yeah, Love Wins.
Speaker 1 Got that kidney.
Speaker 1 How much he won from that most? 90 million. Yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 1 Oh, so that's an important thing. Are you sure it was more than 90 million?
Speaker 1
I think it was more than 90 million. I think it was a little more than 90 million.
Was it more than 90?
Speaker 1 Because when he came over and talked to me and he at the garden, he said, what do 900 million dollars look like? It no 90 million talk
Speaker 1 90 million i'd have been cool but i couldn't even eat in front of that nigga the shit he was saying in there he put he pull up to the garden in a different 500 000 car every day
Speaker 1 tracy morgan has all of the money he's hilarious he's cool it says 90 million i estimated but carry on yeah i think that's all i thought that was a number but but yeah to me the google answers and even if i'm even if i'm wrong right it's 90 million tax-free dollars because they don't tax your lawsuit money.
Speaker 1 It's not like he didn't have a successful career prior for, during, and after priority. But the point is,
Speaker 1 so meets girl, gets kidney,
Speaker 1 has love,
Speaker 1 gets 90 million. Up jumps the boogie, right?
Speaker 1
And I don't know who broke up with who. I'm going to take a leap and suggest that she didn't leave him.
after the $90 million settlement.
Speaker 1
He now has a new girlfriend. Again, I don't know why.
My point is, the question that I raise is, and I don't care about his personal business, is do we,
Speaker 1 if somebody gives you a kidney,
Speaker 1 do you owe them, do you kind of got to be with them forever? No.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
Not necessarily. No.
No. Not necessarily.
Speaker 1
Without the necessary. No, you don't.
Yeah, she's a party.
Speaker 1 She's like, no,
Speaker 1
Corey ain't shit. She's trying to ain't doing some shit with her.
She's a party with you forever. You ain't getting that off.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we got to break up, but you always be a part.
Speaker 1 Nah, I don't think we're going to be with them forever. No.
Speaker 1
You wouldn't feel an extra sense of duty? No. No.
I would. I would, but.
I would. That's not necessarily like they could have not been getting along anymore.
And like you said, when the nigga.
Speaker 1
That's true. That's what she.
She could have just gave me a kitty anyway. I mean, I don't know their business.
And if I were to leave her, I would leave her five years. Some months.
Yeah, some money.
Speaker 1
Yeah. You'd have to take care of her forever, right? Yes.
And I'll suffer. I'll give her a big lump summer money.
Speaker 1 Enough that she could take care of herself.
Speaker 1 Okay. She gave me Kenny 45.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? Like, I would definitely feel indebted to the person for bullshit on that. There's some solid people out there, man.
She'll be all right.
Speaker 1 Was the kidney healthy enough for me to run still?
Speaker 1 Like, could I jog after I? He's got him at the Nick game.
Speaker 1
Yeah, but he wasn't running. He was walking.
He wasn't running before the kidney. He was riching.
Yeah. With 90 million, I ain't doing the most running.
Speaker 1 Like, without my kidney, nigga, you ain't tapping glass.
Speaker 1
I'm just saluting Tracy Morgan. I don't have anything negative to say.
That's all he said about 90%. Yeah, I don't have have anything negative to say about him.
Speaker 1 His story just made me think about relationships and what you, if there's certain things a person could do for you that would make you never leave. That's funny.
Speaker 1 When you brought this topic out, you had much to say about the young lady that he was spotted with and less to say about the person that gave him a kidney. That's not true.
Speaker 1
I don't have anything to say about her. She seemed like a nice woman.
I couldn't see much. Based off of what? Based off of what? Looks? Yeah.
Did you see that romp?
Speaker 1
I don't objectify women, Joe. In that blue? I didn't see the blue spandex.
I didn't see.
Speaker 1 Take that, Angela Rye. You heard him?
Speaker 1
She seemed nice, friendly, friendly to the paparazzi. That's true.
Yeah, that's true. Seems like who I like.
You could go to Melbourne.
Speaker 1
Hey, Yo Mar be saying that. You be following the best ways to say pure bullshit, son.
Nah, that's a way. I forgot what that barbell.
Listen, that shit be slow.
Speaker 1
You pretty good, yo. Nah, man, I just tell the truth, man.
And what was that? A Sunday afternoon that that came out? That's that good brunch on dykeman yeah yeah
Speaker 1 i don't know from look just looking at her i'd guess just in the block hey come here
Speaker 1 definitely was up where she's from just from looking at her i could tell where she was free
Speaker 1 no no
Speaker 1 there's a deeper point i'm making about that which is just
Speaker 1 it plays into a stereotype that as he got more money his partners got
Speaker 1
They looked phenotypically different. That's my fair.
I'm not saying it's famous. Famer do it.
Yeah, he was already famous. I'm saying that ain't live.
That's the narrative.
Speaker 1
Again, I don't know his business. This could be the love of his life.
This could be an amazing person. I have no idea.
Only reason I brought it up again was
Speaker 1 nobody's right though, Joe. In a way, people have shown what Mark is saying, people have shown, and the more money you get, is the type of women that you attract and that you start to date.
Speaker 1
There's a thing going on like that. Even y'all niggas don't want to admit it, but there's a thing.
He's right. I saw it.
Speaker 1
I saw what he's saying. Yes.
And get a little lighter. The hair gets a little lighter.
Speaker 1 A little straighter. Get a little fatter.
Speaker 1
Yeah. So you got it.
You're taking it somewhere else as if you know how the women look at Tracy Morgan daily. I'm not talking about Tracy Morgan.
I took it off of Tracy Morgan.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Tracy Morgan. I'm not talking about Tracy Morgan.
I'm just talking about it. So you're talking about the old, and when he get on, he leave your ass for a while
Speaker 1
or something like that. We all love Tracy Morgan.
I ain't got shit to say. I don't think Tracy at all.
I just feel like if somebody gave me a kidney, I might feel, and I might be wrong.
Speaker 1
I might stay too long. I might be miserable for the rest of my life, but feel guilty.
Like, oh, a kidney.
Speaker 1
Or you had enough money to make sure that they would live a healthy, bountiful life. And that's a great point.
But if, but I ain't got that kind of money. I ain't got, I can't get off the kitchen.
Speaker 1 It's got principles. You know what else I couldn't get off? You would do that if you had money?
Speaker 1 And you, you, if you, if you waited, like, yo, dog, I'm going to stay here with this lady and be miserable, or I got a shit ton of money, I can make sure she's okay, and I can go both. Yes, happy.
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, I just. I love ish, yo.
Yeah, that's true. I could probably get off this.
Speaking of things I could not get off,
Speaker 1
Barack Obama was on the campaign trail this week. You just can't help yourself.
No, no, no, no. This is not political.
It's not political. It's better than him shitting on Dick Cheney.
Speaker 1
Oh, that's coming. I'm smoking on that Cheney back today.
I don't give a fuck how I did it. I saw your little headline.
Speaker 1 It's already on my Patreon.
Speaker 1
It's called Dick Cheney is Dead. Dot, dot, dot, good.
Good. Yes.
Speaker 1
You should be ashamed of yourself. It's crazy.
I mean, it's about small wars.
Speaker 1 I know who would monetize off the taudry.
Speaker 1 Jesus.
Speaker 1 Next niggas be monetizing fights, right? Dumb shit. And arguments.
Speaker 1 Arguments.
Speaker 1
James and shit. Interesting.
Achilles, two hairs, tears, all kinds of shit, man.
Speaker 1 Brock or your body go beat. All right.
Speaker 1
You leave this body alone. You got brittle phones.
You got some holy oceans.
Speaker 1
But it's not brittle. You could barely walk.
But it didn't break. You could walk with your neck to the side.
But it didn't break. I know.
Y'all are so observant about each other's bodies, too.
Speaker 1 You can tell they got me in the same room, fucking broken. You got your asshole waxed.
Speaker 1 You can't talk to me about body
Speaker 1 nothing.
Speaker 1 You let a bitch put the nair down there and fucking
Speaker 1
whatever it was. Nigga, mute up when we talk about bodies.
Now, what'd you say, Big Dong? Got him on that one.
Speaker 1 Let's hear what Barack Obama was. Bro, I have to say about that.
Speaker 1 Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 Barack Obama was in Newark, New Jersey, on a campaign hustle, a campaign trail, campaign.
Speaker 1
I didn't mean as a disc. I mean, he's hustling through the state to try and raise awareness for the governor's race, which he's involved in.
And I think he's doing a great job, and I hope Mikey wins.
Speaker 1 There's no shade.
Speaker 1 But while on the campaign trail, Barack Obama got not heckled, but likely played with by a fan of his in the audience. And here's what happened:
Speaker 1 not just you.
Speaker 1 I mean, you look cute,
Speaker 1 but I ain't married.
Speaker 1 The show's fine, too.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Where is it, my bro?
Speaker 1 First of all, you can't.
Speaker 1 That, like you just said. Where is my bro? Yeah,
Speaker 1
you can't teach that. You can't duplicate that.
You can't.
Speaker 1
He's a natural lad. He's everything that these other people are not on the campaign trail.
But I'm not thinking about that part.
Speaker 1 They drew him in central cast, and there's just no better politician than Barack Obama, right?
Speaker 1
But that you look cute, girl. Shit.
That's sad. I couldn't get that off.
Hell no.
Speaker 1 Why? You want that? Why? Parks, take it for real. He's married.
Speaker 1 Let me ask you.
Speaker 1
We know. Let me ask you a question.
Remember the building. Remember?
Speaker 1 Parks's wife is here.
Speaker 1 Parks' wife is here.
Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1
What if, in your past. It don't change the way I pod.
No, I know. I pod.
Speaker 1 Big Park.
Speaker 1 Well, who does it change the way they call it?
Speaker 1 Oh, you know what sucks?
Speaker 1 Wow!
Speaker 1
I'm in love. You know what? Oh, no, I thought he was talking to the other married people on the podcast.
I'm not married.
Speaker 1
Totally gang. I'm not married.
Totally who you gang. You change.
Speaker 1
My wife don't come to me. I'm not mad.
You change. OG, come around.
You change a little bit. It's okay.
But I'm not married. I'm not married.
Speaker 1 You are, though. I am, happily.
Speaker 1 Just keep skipping that. Bring your wife to work day.
Speaker 1
You met my wife before. Or to the birthday dinner.
I don't remember. Oh, you remember my wife? Yeah.
Speaker 1
To the reverse car. I like that.
That was good shit.
Speaker 1 Mark, what's happening? I do have a question for you after this, please.
Speaker 1 As a married person, I couldn't get that off. Why do y'all married people think that because you're married, that means that you can't acknowledge somebody who's cute or attractive?
Speaker 1
No, acknowledging is different than shouting them out in prudential arena. Let me ask you a question.
Let's just say, for the sake of objectivity, the lady really wasn't even married.
Speaker 1
It was just some fly. I mean, it wasn't even cute.
It was just some fly shit to say on a charismatic tip. Oh, I said that before.
Speaker 1 Corey, tell us.
Speaker 1 I love Corey. But Corey, look up.
Speaker 1 Go ahead and tell them bitches. I mean,
Speaker 1 still going, better chill out. You mean your?
Speaker 1 Let's just say, again, it was some fly shit to say to calm the crowd. I just think it was a master of ceremony moment, and he said it ain't about it ain't about her being cute or not.
Speaker 1 No, it's not for your wife. Yeah,
Speaker 1 nobody sees the woman anyway. It's what it looks because to the world, it looks like you just shouted out a cute girl in the crowd.
Speaker 1
It wasn't that deep either. Yeah, Mark is crazy.
No, no, I mean, my wife wouldn't care about that part, but I'm just saying that she's not cute part doesn't really persuade her to be. It does matter.
Speaker 1 If your wife really sees the person and the person ain't cute to your wife, she's like, oh, that was cute, honey.
Speaker 1 But she got to be real.
Speaker 1 But she got to be a little bit more.
Speaker 1
Okay. So Park says he wouldn't kick and get down.
I wouldn't get flipped. Would you do that? No, because you wouldn't yell out, I'm married.
Speaker 1 No, I would yell out, I'm married, nigga. Everybody knows I'm married.
Speaker 1
Everybody knows I'm married. Number one, and my wife trusts me, and I trust her.
No, I'm somebody. And, yes, she's not on my hip.
Speaker 1
So what I'm saying is that, yes, I will acknowledge that somebody's cute. My wife would say a man is cute as well.
So if you, oh, that's a good one. So if your wife...
Were she said that to me before.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, not say it to you. If she's in a giving a speech and a dude is yelling from the audience, she say, nigga, you fine.
Speaker 1 My husband look good too.
Speaker 1 Hey, y'all.
Speaker 1 Don't hit me, but I don't.
Speaker 1 Don't bullshit anyway, dog.
Speaker 1
Please don't hit me. Say my wife again.
I just wanted to know who she said was cute in front of you that you were okay with.
Speaker 1 George Clooney.
Speaker 1 You said something sweet.
Speaker 1 I don't want to fool, bro.
Speaker 1
No, she said somebody was cute. I mean, I felt the way, but...
No, but she didn't say it public. She wasn't giving a sneaky shit.
She said it like, oh, he's cute. No, no, but flip.
Speaker 1 This is the part that Mark's whole shit is leaving out.
Speaker 1 Say it. What's that?
Speaker 1 Watch it.
Speaker 1 I mean, Obama has the podcast app on his phone also.
Speaker 1 Man, he done heard every podcast that Michelle been on. She been talking us off for about three and a half years.
Speaker 1
Yeah, why I'm being nice. Because somebody with the last name Obama listened to this podcast.
That's true. So I'm chilling out.
I don't want no smoke. I think I'm fly with the Obamas.
Speaker 1
I'm fly with what he did. But in the event that it went the way Mark is saying, you can do shit, you can take it.
That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 He ain't done that wrong in me. And you got to know, like it said, you got to know that your man is one of the more charming men in the fucking history of America or some shit.
Speaker 1
Like, don't hate when he's in his bag. Does the in his bag, you right backstage.
We're going home together. We leave.
She ain't hate. And I mentioned my wife.
Speaker 1
Yeah, but he didn't even say, like, but Michelle is fine. He said, Michelle is fine, too.
Yeah, if he would have said finer or something. He got to be one of them.
Because he was.
Speaker 1
He did the right thing. Y'all both are fine.
Yes. You are fine.
My wife is fine. You are the same tier.
You're both equal. Stop it.
Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that.
Speaker 1 And contrary to what you're saying, I think that, respectfully,
Speaker 1 I think your wife is cool enough for you to say that at
Speaker 1 a
Speaker 1 speech. At the nation's speeches.
Speaker 1
Right. But whoever's in the crowd.
All praise is due to a lot of this beautiful queen in the audience. But that's nothing bad.
See, he just be saying that. Yeah, there's joints at the nation meeting.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't know. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I know. You don't look at the MGT that way, my brother.
Yeah, it wasn't just Brittany Renner. His joints.
Speaker 1
There's joints in there. She definitely took that hijab and burned it, yo.
I didn't see it in her. I could see through your hijab, girl.
I follow some of the fucking chicks working out in their hijab.
Speaker 1 They ain't hiding nothing.
Speaker 1 I can still.
Speaker 1 I can see. You can't say.
Speaker 1 Even their faces. Gorgeous, right?
Speaker 1
He jabbed. Yeah, girl, you is beautiful.
Yeah. He jabbed.
Anyway, it's horrible.
Speaker 1
Anyway, Mark, I think that you would be able to get that off. I'm glad you believed that.
And I think that you're that type of charm, and I think your wife would understand it.
Speaker 1 She would understand it.
Speaker 1 She wouldn't be jealous, but I I don't think she'd prefer if I call her the cute from the crowd.
Speaker 1
Because, Mark, your wife is cool. I think it'll be the other way around, though.
I think Mark is not going for his wife saying somebody's hands on her. And neither is you.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
You talk about some music. I just talked about, I'm honest.
I said that because I got to play it all because I get it all.
Speaker 1
When she said it to you privately, if she were giving a speech and she said, Nigga, you look good. My husband looks good, too, though.
I will be at the front door.
Speaker 1 Exactly.
Speaker 1
Stop. You be at his front door, Navy.
I'll be right there, nigga. She ain't going nowhere.
Let me talk to you. Yeah, for me.
Speaker 1 I I thought we had your speech rights.
Speaker 1 Wait one second. You're talking to the house.
Speaker 1 I checked the contract.
Speaker 1 I didn't know you could give speeches, girl. Are you crazy? Get your ass back in the trunk.
Speaker 1 Back in the trunk?
Speaker 1 Wow. I don't know.
Speaker 1
I have a question for you, Mark. Shout out to the Obamas, man.
Shout out to the Obama. The Obamas love them.
Indeed. I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 1
I'll kidnap you. Hold on, nigga.
Since you you know about politics a lot, Mark.
Speaker 1
The mayor runs the city. I know, Mark, stop it.
Talk to me. Stop.
I'm sorry. People are saying that Trump may run for a third term, right?
Speaker 1 Would it be possible that Obama can go against him and also run for a third term if they open that door? I hate when you start reading. No, I'm saying.
Speaker 1
I hate when you start reading. Why, nigga, you playing around, nigga.
So you hate when you start. She could sit me down on screen.
She sent me down on Tuesdays too. You bitch ass nigga.
You're wrong.
Speaker 1
Yeah. She could sit me down on Tuesdays too, you bitch ass niggas.
I I playing there. I'll turn up on you, son.
You're gonna fuck my shit. Listen.
Acknowledges that he was sat down.
Speaker 1 Y'all thank you. Allie, you been in coaches.
Speaker 1 Don't say you. I get money from it.
Speaker 1 That's how it happens.
Speaker 1
I would have told you about that too with him. Don't shake your head at me, bro.
I'm not shaking your head. Allow me to get what I got to get off.
Don't shake it. I don't indulge.
Speaker 1
I don't play in them realms that these niggas play in. So you should know.
Don't shake your head like that. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1
What are you doing? Realms is engaging with people that shake my head. them? I just don't shake your head at me, but I'm not sure.
I'm not shaking my head at you.
Speaker 1 I'm asking you, what am I shaking like that? I thought that you were shaking your head at me acknowledging that my man set me down. I would never know that.
Speaker 1 Okay, it's a joke, but I'm just going to make sure you're not shaking your head at that because it'd be a problem.
Speaker 1 It's not going to be a problem for you, Joe.
Speaker 1
You're not going to play with me. Yo, you know how I'm saying.
I said I'm a joke. Nigga, why you act like you be trying to feed into them niggas, act like you playing with me like that?
Speaker 1 Stop playing in them.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 I did do it, Mark, but
Speaker 1
to the benefits of me. Oh, God, that's how I go.
When y'all do it, you always try to reverse it and get it. Because when y'all do it, I assume it's fun time.
It is. I'm down with fun time.
Speaker 1 Was that a Clementine? Huh?
Speaker 1
Star's even older. This nigga threw somebody through it over here.
I threw it at Joe, and then he's been holding on to it. Yeah, but answer my question.
Let's get back to that.
Speaker 1 So, to answer your question, obviously, no one can run for a third term. I know you know that, but I'm just saying for the audience out there who may not, no one can run for a third term.
Speaker 1 The 22nd Amendment prevents that from happening. They also can't run, despite the conspiracy theories, for vice president for the same reason, because of the order of succession.
Speaker 1
So, because people are saying maybe J.D. Vance will run and Trump will be his vice president.
That's also forbidden by the. I'm saying people are saying he said that shit.
Speaker 1 He doesn't know the Constitution, which is unfortunate. So, what I'm saying, if he tries to,
Speaker 1 that's
Speaker 1 only ten, but it's clear that
Speaker 1 he dodged the question.
Speaker 1
And they're serious. He dodged the question in the 60-minutes interview this weekend.
Ain't my man with a nigga named Bannon? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve Bannon.
Bannon. Steve Bannon.
Speaker 1
He got up there and was dead. He's fucking serious and was like, yo, fam.
It's going to happen. So to answer your question,
Speaker 1
the only way what happens with the constitutional amendment change, which would then allow anybody to run for a third term, including Obama, yes. Got it.
Okay. Yes.
Got it.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 So, Obama's smoking.
Speaker 1
There's been some tension in the room. And there has not.
My job. There's been no tension today?
Speaker 1 A lot of tension. I'm going to say, I think the audience will be.
Speaker 1
Oh, you mean with me and Flip? All the way. There's a sexual tension.
Y'all took the sexuality. There's a sexual tension.
Speaker 1 Audience, judge for for yourself.
Speaker 1 But what do you say?
Speaker 1
I'm just trying to keep these. It started with a tickle fight.
Right. There's been so much weird shit today.
But he sat him down.
Speaker 1 This is what I'll say. And it's not I sat him down because I'm not agreeing with none of that shit that's being said or even what he just said, right?
Speaker 1 But what I'm saying is I know that when the chatter get a certain way out there, because I might not speak to Flip, or I might not speak to you, like, right?
Speaker 1 It'll be a Tuesday and then we won't speak and then it'll be Friday we see each other. I know when the chatter gets as such,
Speaker 1
without speaking to him, I know that he saw it. Everything.
Everything I saw, he saw. Facts.
Speaker 1 And he is looking at it different than me.
Speaker 1 I believe that he believed
Speaker 1
that he sees. You invited me on Friday.
You sent me a text to come through on Friday, bro. At 3 p.m.
You sent me a text. I sent you the text that I sent Amani.
Speaker 1
Yo, we having some pools, some mac and cheese, some chicken. Yeah, I don't think.
Come catch a vibe. Them niggas out there is talking about Flip has been demoted.
Hear it from my mouth.
Speaker 1 Flip hasn't been demoted. If anything, he's being paid the exact.
Speaker 1 He's being paid the exact.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. I want to clear it up because I want people to understand how I look at it.
Speaker 1
Flip has a lot going on outside of here that I acknowledge. Like, I acknowledge him as a content creator outside of what goes on at this network, like at a high scale.
One,
Speaker 1 so if there's time off to be had, he's at the top of my list to get it because of that. Two,
Speaker 1 Flip can't sit still for a certain amount of time. It's one of them things where if you give somebody, if you take a little bit off the plate, you might get more in return.
Speaker 1
So then there's that with Flip. And Flip's pay is exactly the same.
So the rumor's going around about Flip that's been demoted. I get it.
Speaker 1
Y'all just got Quentin Williams. Sorry.
Who just got Quentin Williams? Cowboys. What Quentin Williams? Quentin Williams from the Jets.
Speaker 1 For what?
Speaker 1 Money. I don't think I got the terms out yet.
Speaker 1
First round pick. Oh, the Jets on Fire Sale.
Yeah, Fire Sale. The Jets on Fire Sale Mole.
It's a great fucking pick for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 That's an amazing pick. That's one of the best DTs in the game.
Speaker 1
That coach might not make it. That Jets coach might not make it.
He might not. But anyway, yeah, so I'm just saying.
I appreciate that. I don't look at it like...
Speaker 1 tension even if I believe that Flip be reading the shit and believing the shit.
Speaker 1 So do you you read and believe shit? Sometimes, but not that.
Speaker 1 I do read and believe things if it aligns.
Speaker 1
We don't want to acknowledge it, but some shit be aligning. A lot of this shit be aligning.
Some shit be aligning. Like, oh, I don't.
Speaker 1
You start to think that if somebody is feeding information, you know, you start to think about it. Like there's a mole or something.
I think that. But not that.
I don't think so. You know what?
Speaker 1 I think, I think.
Speaker 1 I mean, it could be a mole. Because they use me, they say your flip is the one that opened that door to bring behind the scenes shit
Speaker 1
to the forefront, which is true. Which is true, yeah.
But in my mind, I'm very careful of what I say. But
Speaker 1 you think so?
Speaker 1
I think so. Wow.
I think I say things to push the line, but I think I'm careful. I think I'm careful, Bob.
For real. Okay.
Yeah, salute. Salute.
Speaker 1 I snuff you, Bob. I don't want no problems.
Speaker 1
I love you, but they love it. They said I feel the way that you're up here already, nigga.
Yeah, nah, you definitely don't feel the way I'm up here. Yeah, Mark's up here being a meanie today.
Speaker 1
Yeah, Mark's being a meanie. I'm just trying to direct traffic.
You're doing a good job. You're doing a good job.
Great job. And it's a lot of of traffic out there.
Speaker 1 He the nigga in the middle street. Hey, whoa.
Speaker 1 Yeah, he's doing a great job, man. And next time I invite you over for Chicken and Mac, hit me back.
Speaker 1 I was thinking about my man. That shit had me asleep.
Speaker 1
I can't wait to see you. This nigga didn't hit me back at all.
It left me right on red.
Speaker 1 Oh, wow. I was doing something.
Speaker 1
I was on my way upstate. No beef.
Yeah, I was on my way upstate. No beef.
And they said you went up there before, that upstate horror house. They said Joe went up there.
Speaker 1 That shit when you walked through five to six houses. houses they said joe was up there
Speaker 1 sure i've been there i've been that's just scary i've probably been to any of them you could drive to like that was my thing yeah that's what they told me yeah no that was my thing i'm glad y'all had fun thank you very much he came up here got some mac and shout out to my man he was money he wasn't here too why didn't he get them got demoted yeah i love you he
Speaker 1 i think that story's coming out today
Speaker 1
If they're smart. Yeah, I keep telling them, you got to stack these.
You got to stagger these releases, otherwise. Go ahead and shout to Patreon one more time for him.
Speaker 1
Just so they know where to find some of this stuff. Oh, yeah, Markle Michael Official, man.
Go to Patreon, man. Check me out early.
And the lead extra content.
Speaker 1
And the lead story there today, let's get a little sneak peek of that. Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney. Rest in peace, Dick Cheney.
Look at you. Thank you, man.
Dick Cheney
Speaker 1 passed away
Speaker 1
at 84 years old. That's it.
And there's also a classic interview I did with Prodigy where he's talking about Jay-Z and the Illuminati.
Speaker 1
It's up there on my thing that I did with him before he passed away. Rest in peace, P.
Rest in Peace.
Speaker 1
That's it. Happy birthday.
Yep. Yes, happy birthday, P.
That's why I put it out related to his birthday. So shout shout out to him.
Make sure you check it out. I appreciate the shout-out, man.
Speaker 1 Come on, man. At least I can do it when you're monetizing some of our favorite MCs that passed away.
Speaker 1 Monetizing death. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1
I got to shout you out. That's it.
Ow.
Speaker 1 Tell us about Dick Cheney.
Speaker 1 Dick Cheney's dead. He is.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 1
But for those that don't know. Not sad either.
No, I'm definitely not sad about it. Dick Cheney was
Speaker 1 the the most powerful vice president in American history by far.
Speaker 1 Before that, obviously he's from Wyoming. He was in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 1
He was also a chief of staff in the Ford administration, but he's best known for being one of the architects of George Bush's presidency. George Bush, in a lot of ways.
02.
Speaker 1
2000, 2008. 2000.
2000, 2008. Yeah.
2008. Got it.
Speaker 1 He was not just vice president, but really
Speaker 1
the designer behind so much of the policies that George W. Bush enacted.
Usually vice presidents are in a corner somewhere minding their own business. It's very much like the Chauvi.
Speaker 1 It's like in their own world doing little shit. But he directed everything, the most important thing being
Speaker 1 the invasion of Iraq.
Speaker 1 manufacturing the lie that there are weapons of mass destruction and leading to the complete decimation of Iraq.
Speaker 1 Also, the violation of our civil liberties, warrantless wiretapping, torture, all kinds of things being done here under the pretext that we got to keep America safe.
Speaker 1
The Patriot Act, exactly. We got to keep America safe, which was ushered in quickly.
So there's the lies about weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 1
There's the manufacture of an entire war and destruction of the entire Middle East. And profiting off of it.
And profiting off of it from Halliburton. Halliburton from the ballot.
Speaker 1 He was part of, he had a private investment in the company that does the cleanup after you destroy companies, country from war. And they lost a shit ton of money.
Speaker 1 They had given Halliburton all this money.
Speaker 1 And they said literally billions of dollars vanished, quote unquote, vanished. And then we allowed him to take Halliburton from the United States and go register it, I think, in Dubai.
Speaker 1 So he wouldn't have to pay for the tax on the money.
Speaker 1
Exactly. Like, yo, dog, these niggas just be playing a game, fam.
They want to cut off some SNAP benefits. Shit,
Speaker 1
do whatever the fuck they want. Just write that rules.
And some of the complaints we have about Trump right now came because
Speaker 1 they fought to expand executive power back then so that they could do more, which had been restricted since the Nixon administration and the Watergate scandal.
Speaker 1 So basically, so many of the problems that we see right now are a direct result of George W.
Speaker 1 Bush's administration, which is a direct result of people like Karl Rove and others, but especially, especially Dick Cheney. And not for nothing, he also shot his friend in the face while hunting.
Speaker 1 I mean, he just
Speaker 1 don't stop.
Speaker 1 He got away with it. He got away with it.
Speaker 1 Scott Fred.
Speaker 1 He got dude to be like, I was cool. I didn't mind.
Speaker 1
He did apologize. That's true.
That's what I do when I shoot people in the face.
Speaker 1
It wasn't a face, right? It was a graze. He crazed him.
In the face. He shot him in the face.
Yeah, but he crazed him. He got hit in the face full on.
Speaker 1 it was a shotgun my nigga
Speaker 1 holy corey's like yo it's just a some pellets but so he's dead and um
Speaker 1 mark
Speaker 1 family might be listening okay family if you're listening no i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that don't do that i'll just say this because because you know lynn cheney's a decent person um he has he has great family but but so did the people in iraq who were killed so did all i mean he's responsible for the deaths of millions of people.
Speaker 1 So I'm not, you know, his family can mourn. I allow them to mourn, but I'm not going to pretend, just like Hulk Hogan, he's 10 times worse than Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1
Don't Hogan was interpersonally a piece of shit. This guy is structurally, institutionally, systemically a piece of shit.
So, you know, smoking on that chain he packed today.
Speaker 1 Corey. Well,
Speaker 1
I'm not going to stop Mark's. I'm not going to interrupt Mark's views about it.
I mean, I sound like a broken record with how I feel about when people die, so
Speaker 1
I'm not even going to waste y'all time with it. Y'all hate him, get y'all shit off.
Use this as a time.
Speaker 1
We gotta research him on. That's all it is.
Monk is well researched, and he knows the details. People got a right to disagree.
All right, Madam?
Speaker 1
And I get it. Chaney's a sack of shit.
No, he was the sack of shit.
Speaker 1 I'm not arguing it. Dog, they had a show called Cheney.
Speaker 1 Like,
Speaker 1 he was the VP.
Speaker 1 Nigga, he ran.
Speaker 1
Rings around George Bush. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
Are you going to celebrate every time somebody dies that you don't like? No, I don't do that. People die all the time.
I don't like.
Speaker 1 If Trump dies, are you going to celebrate? Oh.
Speaker 1
You know what, though? I take it. Probably not.
You know what? I'm done with you, Mark. No, no, no.
Speaker 1
I'm going to be happy. For me, it's important to speak publicly about it when the dominant narrative misrepresents the person's legacy.
There's going to be so many people saying that Trump ain't shit.
Speaker 1 I don't necessarily need to take hours to do it.
Speaker 1
I will clearly be like, Trump is dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not pretending I won't, but I don't do it. You're going to sit for Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1
You're gonna do it for the rest of us. For sure.
But the difference is the dominant narrative is Hulk Hogan's a hero, so I need y'all to know, no, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 His dominant narrative is Dick Cheney's a vice president, he's a hero. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 But, you know,
Speaker 1
I don't do it for everybody. I do it when I feel like it's a necessary intervention.
If something were to happen to J.D. Vance, what would you say? Oh, same.
I would go in. I will go in.
Okay, so.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I ain't got no pics. I mean, I'm going to go in on everybody.
I'm just saying sometimes I'm louder for the person. My loudest voice isn't always for the person who's the worst.
Speaker 1
Sometimes it's for the person who's being protected the most. I'm just trying to tell the truth.
That's all.
Speaker 1 And educate our brothers and sisters. Yeah.
Speaker 1 As you leave Party City with balloons in.
Speaker 1 Exactly.
Speaker 1
That's it. I'm confident he is.
He died. I'm saying the blow is
Speaker 1 the old school shit.
Speaker 1 That's the name of it. Oh,
Speaker 1
God, man. Oh, man.
It's crazy. Well, now I don't know if I should even say that.
No, no, but
Speaker 1 the same question to you, but you don't celebrate.
Speaker 1
You don't believe in in that. I don't do that.
It could be your worst enemy. It could be the worst.
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I agree with you.
And there's a very wise belief in that.
Speaker 1
I just don't share it with you. Because I don't think it's about how evil the other person was.
Like, for me, it's not about that. It's about my belief system.
Speaker 1
And if I don't want people to die, I don't want... I'm against death.
I'm against death. Like, I'm not going to champion one person dying and one person living.
Like, it makes it too sticky for me.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't be able to sleep doing that. Because how I feel.
Like, I feel like I'm connected to God. Shut up, Corey.
I feel like I'm connected to God. So I would be able to...
Speaker 1 I can't root.
Speaker 1
I can't be connected to God and root for somebody to die. For me.
I don't root for somebody, Mark. But when it happens.
Speaker 1 I feel like when you do that, you're doing.
Speaker 1
Hold on, Mark. I feel like when you do that, right, you're doing the same thing the other side does when a black person dies.
Like, you're doing the same exact thing.
Speaker 1
You know, when somebody, like when Sandra Bland or somebody dies, people make fun, and I feel like you're doing it. You're doing the same exact thing.
I try to.
Speaker 1 But by using, you're using facts of how you're showing the person a piece of shit, but you do come off in a celebratory way, if you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 If people perceive me celebrating when
Speaker 1
someone who killed millions of people, I'm not talking about Tiny Hane right now, dies, I can live with that. That's not my intent, but I can live with that.
I'm okay being perceived that way.
Speaker 1
Yeah, no, I understand. Yeah, so I can live with it.
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good.
I feel great. You do.
You look great. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 I ain't opposed to it. It's just not my bag.
Speaker 1
I think it's a little tacky. It ain't really my thing to be celebrating somebody's death.
Because he starts off so smooth. Hey, no shutting on him.
Speaker 1
Well, how do you feel about, and this is my last question on this, because everybody has the right to whatever. No, no, everybody just has their own right to each other.
But how do you feel about when
Speaker 1 good people or when people or places or corporations that are championed as good hire people from that evil person's regime that died to work? How do you feel about that? I'm not sure if I like it.
Speaker 1 Give me an example.
Speaker 1 Like Dick Dick Cheney died. Let's say that he had people on team Dick Cheney that agree with his politics and ideologies and feel the exact same way and champion him.
Speaker 1
I'm assuming you view those people as pieces of shit the way you are viewing Cheney. Sort of, yeah.
How do you feel about his team being hired? Oh, I see. I would oppose it.
Speaker 1
For me, it's about the ideology. It's not about the person.
You know what I mean? And for me,
Speaker 1
there are people who look at the world different than me. But Dick Cheney took his worldview and imposed it in ways that did a lot of harm.
So that's my biggest issue with him.
Speaker 1 It's not that he sees the world different. Everybody sees the world differently.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1
you could work for somebody and not necessarily agree with their policies or their shit. True.
You're putting food on the table for your family.
Speaker 1 I think that if you agree with the person and how they felt and how they saw shit and how they viewed and looked at people, I think that's a little... Fucked up.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Because you could hire somebody that you don't, you know what I mean? Yeah, look at y'all.
Speaker 1
Because I want to say something that I don't want to be said on air. So let's stop this so I can say it and then we'll come right back in.
And we're back. Yeah.
That was a powerful point you made.
Speaker 1
I'm glad you did. In all seriousness.
Yeah. It was a great point.
Amazing.
Speaker 1
Thank you. One day they'll find out.
I tell y'all, Patriots. Mark him on the official.
Speaker 1 I'm going to be right there too. I'm going to do one of the
Speaker 1 selling his ass. Yeah, he's selling his ass.
Speaker 1 That nigga's walking backwards in the street.
Speaker 1
Oh, man. Listen, prayers to my brother.
I listen, he's been in my prayers.
Speaker 1
But he's finally gone public with his condition. I want to shout out Royce to 59.
For sure. Royce, we love you.
You already know. Royce, you already know, man.
Speaker 1 And if I talk too much, I'll cry up here, so I won't.
Speaker 1 But Royce revealed what he's been dealing with behind the scenes to some of the people who have been wondering why he's been quiet.
Speaker 1 In an article on Rolling Stone, Royce revealed that for the past several years, he's been dealing with lingual dystonia, a neurological condition where he says there's some kind of interruption in the nerve firing off in my tongue, causing spasms that hindered him from talking and recording music.
Speaker 1 I want to say, as a recording artist
Speaker 1 and someone that relies on recording to pay your bills,
Speaker 1 this is one of the scariest things I've ever even imagined somebody being.
Speaker 1 Especially because he didn't, I don't think, maybe still to this day, I haven't read the article, but in my last conversations, I didn't really know exactly how to define it.
Speaker 1 Well, he continues here. My cranial nerves, and I don't know what any of this means,
Speaker 1 and I may be fucking the words up.
Speaker 1
He says, my cranial nerves and my vagus nerve were all inflamed. I got a genetic condition called the COMT gene that processes dopamine slower than normal.
Huh.
Speaker 1 And when I did neurochemistry tests, I found the left hemisphere of my brain produces less dopamine than the right. So not only is it less dopamine, but it's an imbalance as well.
Speaker 1 When your dopamine is low, that's like Parkinson's ADHD.
Speaker 1 I had involuntary movements in my face and my tongue. So they went on this long, so they went on this long thing where they would put me on all these different kinds of medicines.
Speaker 1 He says he went through several improper diagnoses, and this is where
Speaker 1
what you were saying comes in. But he's almost through it and has started recording again.
I wish I was recording when we were doing this album, he says.
Speaker 1 He's talking about the Big L album that the executive produced.
Speaker 1 Again, prayers up to Royce. I love you.
Speaker 1
I love you. You are one of the strongest people I know.
So even though this seems like the toughest battle in the universe,
Speaker 1 I think you got this.
Speaker 1
Yeah, for sure. I know other artists that have gone through similar things too.
So hopefully he can continue to be a mouthpiece to, no pun intended,
Speaker 1
to maybe help someone else that may be going through something similar. I cannot imagine going through it.
Right.
Speaker 1 And this has been for years now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And this is coming off, I think he was just Grammy-nominated his last project or the project before the last. Like,
Speaker 1 he had a lot of great shit going on. So for this to happen, just
Speaker 1 my heart goes out to Royce, man. My entire heart goes out to Rey Rey.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Royce. I have a question for you.
Speaker 1 You don't let people in, right? And you're very critical of people. I mean, that's your job.
Speaker 1 What makes you
Speaker 1 allow
Speaker 1 someone in your life or in your heart where you have that love for them? What do they have to do? What do they have to show you where you can say, yo, I love you from the bottom of my heart. I'm here.
Speaker 1
Because you're very critical. Even if you're friends with somebody, we're just talking about somebody.
You could be friends with somebody. They could say something.
Speaker 1
see something and you fire off or fire off at them. It could be for the gig or just how you feel.
The way you asked me this, I thought about this the other day.
Speaker 1 You're good at that, asking me some shit I thought about recently. But my answer to this, and I don't care if it don't make sense to people,
Speaker 1 I judge people off of
Speaker 1 how we are in the foxhole.
Speaker 1 Like, I feel the way I feel about Parks because I've been in the foxhole with Parks. True.
Speaker 1 I've been in the foxhole with Ice.
Speaker 1 I've been in the foxhole with Royce. I've been in the foxhole with Ish, even though his body ain't bad.
Speaker 1 I'll put some sauce on it. His body's alright.
Speaker 1 Fucking skipping the hills.
Speaker 1 But no, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Got you. So, like, I know that that may be an extreme way to judge things,
Speaker 1
but that's all I do. No, that's real shit, though.
That's shit. Someone shows up when shit is not great.
And stays. And stays? Yeah.
Speaker 1
And I'm saying, even not that, but we got a mission. We got a mission.
We got a goal. Life is dependent on the decisions we make while we down here.
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't want to second guess that.
Speaker 1
I want to be able to trust and rely on the person standing next to me. I want to know what the shortcomings are, know what the strong suits are.
I'm not just kicking it with everybody.
Speaker 1 That's not my style. And sometimes someone,
Speaker 1 in a jam, in a pickle of any sort, whether it's some street shit or some financial shit business shit creative shit whatever and someone shrivels up or does some funny shit and you're always gonna look at them funny for the rest of your life
Speaker 1 and it goes the opposite way when someone shows the fuck up for you you're like
Speaker 1 yeah
Speaker 1 i can't just get the yeah that that's that's me
Speaker 1 um
Speaker 1 royce i love you Royce, I love you. Love you too, Royce.
Speaker 1 And now you niggas that were harassing me when Royce did his interview up here with a toothpick in his mouth and y'all go, oh, why the fuck does he have a toothpick?
Speaker 1
Why did Joe let him talk with a toothpick? Hey, sometimes the person that invited the guests know a little more about the situation than y'all viewing at home. Thank you.
Correct.
Speaker 1
Thank you. And that goes to Joe.
So many layers. Joe knows, but Joe's been in broadcaster.
He knows how it sounds when I'm toothpicking it.
Speaker 1
Hey, it's a nigga I love with a condition up here that I want to talk to about. I want to talk to.
Right. Fuck what y'all talking about out there.
Speaker 1 Hey, what's up, man? Pause.
Speaker 1 Got that jacket.
Speaker 1 Why are you in here by yourself? Man, where's Gina at?
Speaker 1
Oh, you didn't understand. All right.
All right, you didn't get it.
Speaker 1 All right, DJ Head is up here, but I was told Gina was coming too, who was who I was excited to come. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 Damn, we used to have to have head off here, too. That was just head.
Speaker 1
I've been on told with heads. It's just head, though.
The genus. You know what I mean? Nah, don't do that.
Speaker 1
I'm calling for you. Come on, yo.
You gonna gonna come up here on a dolo nigga without Gina views
Speaker 1 you know we wanted to talk to Gina views you already did Roaring Dude podcast nigga we wanted to see Gina too
Speaker 1 you did that y'all did the whole debate off I seen it
Speaker 1 hey see but head know me I'm glad that the people that know me know I'm on bullshit.
Speaker 1 And they just accept it.
Speaker 1
To know me is to love me. You'd be old bullshit.
But to know me is to love me. And if you don't know me, then why the fuck are you around?
Speaker 1 Any of those. Any holes.
Speaker 1
We got some shit y'all been sleeping on. Oh, nah, we got to shout out Nori for finishing this shit.
No, no, Nori.
Speaker 1
Yeah, hold up. Nah, round of applause for Nori.
And to anybody else that completed the marathon. I had a good friend in the marathon that finished.
Speaker 1
He's been training for two years. Shout out to Aaron.
Wow.
Speaker 1 Fucking tore his calf or something last year, right before the marathon, so this was his redo.
Speaker 1
But shouts back to Nori, man. Nori's another one, yo.
For you to have...
Speaker 1 I went on tour with Norrie early, nigga. It was a sig off.
Speaker 1
It was nothing but sigs and spades. Yeah.
So for him to have quit smoking
Speaker 1
and to run in a marathon. 26 miles is crazy.
No, 26 miles.
Speaker 1
He lost weight. He got a good time.
I think it's five hours and changed.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Nori, man. What a rebrand from drink champs to run champs.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Come on.
Shout out to a fucking round of applause again.
Speaker 1
That is not to go unnoticed at all. Nori, you another one.
We love you, man. For 2026, I'm going to start shouting out the niggas I love and talk about y'all a little more than the niggas I hate.
Speaker 1 I'm going to get that a try. It's a lot of niggas I love,
Speaker 1
and who would know? Because I'm up here just shooting at logic all day. Don't worry, I got y'all.
2026, I'm going to make a change for once in my life.
Speaker 1
All right, we got sleeper. Sleepers, sleepers, right? Yes, sir.
All right. I think I'm going with...
A human? A human. Nice.
Speaker 1
Step one. A human.
And I think...
Speaker 1 I think that this song is absolute heat.
Speaker 1 Played this gentleman before up here. It goes by the name of Yeh I Lee.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Ye Lee. Shout out to Ye.
The song is called She Knows, featuring Denday and Amari Noel.
Speaker 1 And it goes a little something like this.
Speaker 1 But I know I got a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1 Cause if I didn't leave, she would've stayed.
Speaker 1 And it's a shit that I just couldn't take.
Speaker 1 But if I call her now, she got my way.
Speaker 1 And she knows.
Speaker 1 Wait,
Speaker 1 can't nobody fuck her like I did.
Speaker 1 Want nobody love her like I did.
Speaker 1 Really ain't tryna start problems. But she knows.
Speaker 1 Stay without me, she might drop dead.
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Leaving with free in her damn head. She only with two, cause I'm the baby.
She knows.
Speaker 1 She knows, she knows, she knows.
Speaker 1 God damn her, she knows.
Speaker 1 Now you know, she knows.
Speaker 1 I know that you know, she knows.
Speaker 1 I know that you know. That she knows.
Speaker 1 She knows that she won't find only.
Speaker 1 She knows that you will not like me.
Speaker 1 She knows, and she came denied with this verse going. Oh,
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see, she the type to do it for the money. She the type to do it for the cameras at the tight.
Close friends calling dummy, tryna pass it on me.
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How could you ever try to play with me? Like I won't let you, like I ain't care for you, baby. She running the game on a dumb nigga.
She can't hide you, cause baby, I'm nose.
Speaker 1 And she knows
Speaker 1 They can't nobody fuck her like I did.
Speaker 1 Won't nobody love her like I did.
Speaker 1 Baby, ain't just like I died.
Speaker 1 She knows.
Speaker 1 Say without me, she might drop dead.
Speaker 1 Leave it in free of her damn head.
Speaker 1 She only went to cause.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Yay Ali, friend of the show. That record is called She Knows, featuring Dende and Amari Noel.
That record is available on your phone and DSPs right this very second.
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Again, really good song. Shout out to Yali, man.
That's dope. Uh, speaking of rice, uh, I'm going to go to this big L album.
This is uh, How Will I Make It?
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It's in the latter half of the album, which I thought was all freestyles, and this one kind of snuck in there. I had never heard this song before.
Uh, so here we go.
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the opposite world. Or those that was born in heaven, which is called hell, and had to raise half of everything they got.
And never had nothing in the children. And never will.
That's for real.
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I'm only at the age of 10. And life already seems to me like tattin' for a dead end.
Cause my mom would be smoking mad crack. But pops me out for a fast snack.
And never brought his ass back.
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Nobody knows how I feel. It's quite ill.
Cause I had to steal or fill my stomach with a nice meal. Too ashamed to walk the streets, wearing the same cheap sneaks and dirty outfits for wheels.
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Even my holidays got damaged. Cause on Christmas, I asked Santa for a father and a hot sandwich.
I just can't take it.
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And every day I ask myself, How will I make it? It seems like my life's been close ever since I was a child. And how will I make it? I won't, that's how.
I walk around with a frown.
Speaker 1 I got no reason to smile.
Speaker 1 And how will I make it? I won't, that's how. Hey, yo, times was rough, I had to throw up foul.
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And how will I make it? I won't, that's how. I always knew that I'll end up doing time on the owl.
And how will I make it? I won't, that's how. Five years passed by, now I'm at the age of 15.
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No more fun and games, it's time to get clean. Cause I'm about to burst, it's like my life was cursed.
I went to church, prayed every day, and it still got worse. Soon I ran into a couple of guns.
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Started stoking the streets, late robbing suppers for fun. Now every day I treat with the heat.
ain't nothing sweet. I rob for meat.
If I don't steal, I don't eat.
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Then I miss controls, I'm going too far. Rob this brother named you all, then got smashed by the blue car.
Where I grew up, it was a living hell.
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Then I started to realize I'm better off in the prison cell. Now I can sleep, now I can eat.
Can't hit skins, but I wasn't hitting skins when I was in the street. And yo, I just can't take it.
Speaker 1 And every day I ask myself, how will I make it? It seems like my life's been coached ever since I was a child. And how will I make it? I won't, that's how.
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I walk around with a frown, I got no reason to smile. And how will I make it? I won't, that's how.
Hey, yo, time's was rough. I had to go up foul.
And how will I make it? I won't, that's how.
Speaker 1 I always knew that I'll end up doing time on the owl.
Speaker 1 And how will I make it? I won't, that's how. Doing time was full of stress, gee, all the fightin's and statins and men finding men sexy.
Speaker 1 One tried to test me, didn't find a humorous Beat him with a pillowcase filled with cans of tuna fish My time came to a cease I'm back on the streets again I hope I don't be snatched by the beast again But it's getting crazy hectic Cause I'm broken up naked and can't get a job cause of my jail record Before you know it I was robbing them same ducks I even started robbing homeless folks when they changed cups My whole life was deserted Either I'ma go back to jail or get murdered But do I deserve it?
Speaker 1 All I try to do is live the one life that I got. But it seems like I can't get a fair shot.
Speaker 1 I just can't take it.
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And every day I ask myself, How will I make it? It seems like my life's been cooked ever since I was in the business. That's Big L.
How will I make it?
Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Big L. Shout out to Royce, Mike, DITC, the whole family of Big L.
Speaker 1 Um, check out the project there. Just fire.
Speaker 1 I'm going to a gentleman's name is Jay Howell, and this song was called Honest.
Speaker 1 Neil fights and does
Speaker 1 right back where we began,
Speaker 1 breaking me down again.
Speaker 1 Can no longer just pretend we're too forgotten.
Speaker 1 Constantly arguing,
Speaker 1 both of us fight to win.
Speaker 1 No longer make them in, so why hold on.
Speaker 1 We used
Speaker 1 to
Speaker 1 light up until the sun comes up.
Speaker 1 Let's start that fire when we start.
Speaker 1 Now we're just burning babe.
Speaker 1 I just
Speaker 1 want you
Speaker 1 to be honest.
Speaker 1 True
Speaker 1 so dust, broken promises.
Speaker 1 I just
Speaker 1 want you to be on it.
Speaker 1 True curse, so dust, broken promises.
Speaker 1 Try not to go with it.
Speaker 1 Hands up, I play the fifth. Both our backs against the wall.
Speaker 1 This time I had enough.
Speaker 1 Keep going back and forth.
Speaker 1 We both know that this ain't love.
Speaker 1 I will stay so tight.
Speaker 1 I know I
Speaker 1 even if we try to say goodbye.
Speaker 1 All the good times, away, the bad times. I can't deny.
Speaker 1 Ooh,
Speaker 1 I just
Speaker 1 want you to be honest.
Speaker 1 So done, broken love.
Speaker 1 I just want
Speaker 1 you to be honest.
Speaker 1 Should I
Speaker 1 love
Speaker 1 you before I make you hurt? So done,
Speaker 1 broken hearts.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 I just want
Speaker 1 you to be honest.
Speaker 1 You don't understand, baby.
Speaker 1 That is the, I'm assuming, very human Jay Howell with honest. That was a dope-ass sense of the end.
Speaker 1 Mark, what you got for us today?
Speaker 1
Olivia Dean. Oh, my wife just put me on Olivia Dean.
She's fire, man. She got a bunch of it.
She got a new single out that I'm not picking, but she has one that I love.
Speaker 1 It's called So Easy to Fall in Love. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1 i could be the twist the one to make you stop the icing on your cake the cherry on the top it's heaven in my heart and we could find you some space
Speaker 1 i could be the world to you the missing piece the extra center mental kind of chemistry some people make it hard but me that isn't the case
Speaker 1 cause i think it's so easy to fall
Speaker 1 in love.
Speaker 1 So come give me a call
Speaker 1 and we'll fall into us.
Speaker 1 I'm the perfect mixer.
Speaker 1 Set it light and the rest of your lives. Anyone with no heart would agree
Speaker 1 that's so easy
Speaker 1 to fall in love with
Speaker 1 the way I do my hair, the way I make it laugh, The way we like to share all conceptual parts.
Speaker 1 I could be fresh air, not be the girl of your dreams.
Speaker 1 There's no need to hide if you're into me.
Speaker 1 Cause I'm into you quite intimately.
Speaker 1
And maybe one mind could turn into three. Well, I'm down to see.
Cause I make it so easy to fall
Speaker 1 in love.
Speaker 1 So come give me a call.
Speaker 1 And we'll fall
Speaker 1 into us.
Speaker 1 I'm a perfect mixer.
Speaker 1 79 and then the rest of your life. Many won't let the heart agree.
Speaker 1 It's so easy
Speaker 1 to fall in love with me.
Speaker 1 And we'll fall into us
Speaker 1 on the perfect mix
Speaker 1
Whose leeper was that? That was fire. That's Olivia Dean.
That was Mark. So easy to fall in love with me.
Her album is fire. Grem just put me on last last week, this weekend.
Well, Advil Levine.
Speaker 1 That sounds good. They said Advil
Speaker 1 Levine.
Speaker 1
That boy Mark is good now. Itch ain't even go yet.
That's what? Itch went. Oh, it's went? Yeah.
All right, cool, cool. He played Heat? He played Heat? He played Heat.
He played a human?
Speaker 1
It was a human, I think. It was a human this time.
It's hard to tell though, Days. Hey, look at me when I'm talking to you, yo.
Speaker 1 Yo, this year, you got one more month for not looking at me when I'm talking to you too.
Speaker 1 In 2026, what's going to happen?
Speaker 1 Tickles.
Speaker 1
A lot of tickles. A lot of tickles.
Come on, man. Hey, yo, you know, that weight shit ain't.
That shit is deceptive. What do you mean? Your chin don't got no muscles, my nigga.
Speaker 1 You think going to the gym going to have you out here being
Speaker 1 he-bed? Yeah, you know what's funny about that? Fuck it, too.
Speaker 1
Let me share some shit. I ain't got no business sharing.
I was doing so good, too. Fuck it.
I got to let the audience in on my personal life. Naturally.
Speaker 1
Okay. So I did go to eat some pussy the other day.
And she's been saying it's been a while, but I didn't think that was the truth.
Speaker 1 But when I did it, I realized all that gym shit, nigga, you still gotta work them jobs.
Speaker 1 The boss got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 You ever catch a Charlie Austin in your mouth? You gotta start just rubbing your head all day?
Speaker 1 Yo, nah, I was fucked up down there.
Speaker 1
No, no, it was bad. Baby, if you listening, I love you.
Start doing the De La Hoya show. Nah, damn.
He can work in his jaw before the fight.
Speaker 1 Nah,
Speaker 1 I was like, we got to do some jaw exercise.
Speaker 1 We got to do this more often. 5%.
Speaker 1 Oh, man.
Speaker 1
Before we go, we ain't going to talk about the John Moran shit. We will.
Past those Patreon sports. It's a good Patreon topic.
All right. I didn't like that.
Speaker 1 I feel you. You didn't like what?
Speaker 1
I don't think he said anything that bad. He's out of here.
I agree with Flip, though. To be suspended.
You know what I mean? I think that's just a label put on him. Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 When it comes to him, you know, real quick before we get the Patreons, like, you know, talent opened the doors, but, you know.
Speaker 1 Hey, John Morant.
Speaker 1 Ty.
Speaker 1 Listen, man, number two draft pick.
Speaker 1 That was design draft. It was a lot of hope.
Speaker 1 RJ Bear went third. You were electrifying.
Speaker 1 You were jumping over people doing that tomahawk dunk.
Speaker 1 Then you pulled out the guns
Speaker 1 and the league kind of turned their back on you a little bit.
Speaker 1 Oh come on Joe do that to him.
Speaker 1 Then the organization had enough of your shit. They pulled some of the Nike commercials.
Speaker 1 Fired your favorite coach, put a new coach in there.
Speaker 1 Coach that had enough of that bullshit.
Speaker 1 Now they want you to just stand in the corner and shoot threes, man.
Speaker 1
Fire sale. Everybody's for sale.
Everybody can go.
Speaker 1 You're going to get out of there. First thing smoking, FedEx.
Speaker 1 You're going to get to Miami, Portland.
Speaker 1 Where else you can go, man?
Speaker 1 And we love you.
Speaker 1 One of the best black point guards that we've seen in a while, but...
Speaker 1 Sometimes it just don't matter, man, no matter how great you are.
Speaker 1 They'll ship you right out of town, man.
Speaker 1 Banned your dad from the arena.
Speaker 1 T. Morant can't even come no more.
Speaker 1 Damn, man.
Speaker 1 Damn.
Speaker 1 John Moran, if you're listening, we love you.
Speaker 1
We do. We wish you nothing but the best, man.
But it won't be a Memphis.
Speaker 1 Sorry.
Speaker 1 Do you think this is one of the best 200 songs ever made?
Speaker 1
200 songs. 300.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Even 500. Five.
I don't know if I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 I don't know about you.
Speaker 1
I'm listening to some little bias. This is my shit.
This would have to be one of the best 500 songs ever made.
Speaker 1
Yeah, five. I don't want to go crazy with three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Anyway, that's not where I was ending.
Speaker 1 Here we go. Back in my Ross bag.
Speaker 1
We'll talk more about John Moran on Patreon, man. Make sure you subscribe.
It's really important that you subscribe right this second during this little fourth quarter blitz.
Speaker 1 Patreon forward slash JoeButton
Speaker 1 or forward slash Mark Lamont or forward slash Queensflip or forward slash
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erotic, erotica, whatever he's going by these days. Forward slash flip the network, nigga.
Not Queensflip. Somebody stole my shit.
I don't know what the fuck his name is.
Speaker 1
He found so many E-playoffs. He body master, too.
He be killing it though. Yo, he's gonna run out of E, E-Harmony.
Speaker 1 This guy's amazing.
Speaker 1 Yo, hopefully you enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. We love each and every one of y'all out there.
Speaker 1 Indeed. Shout out to anybody that might be fighting a silent battle.
Speaker 1
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell.
Adios Ariba Derci, Asta La Vista, Auer Voir. A simple song, goodbye will suffice.
Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last
Speaker 1 as if it's all we have.
Speaker 1 Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Speaker 1 I just wanna blood.
Speaker 1 Smoking on that loud, pumping up that vibe. Grab you a time and all you might need it.
Speaker 1
What you boys' week looking like? Anything fun? Anything interesting what y'all got going on? I ain't got nothing. Just work.
Working. That's it.
Working, mixing, mastering. That's it.
Working.
Speaker 1
Just building houses. You building houses this week, nigga? My head's still in.
Oh, shit, that's funny, too.
Speaker 1 Let me tell y'all
Speaker 1
how I know I'm a bitch-ass nigga. This is funny, too.
I should have saved all this with Patreon.
Speaker 1 You still could.
Speaker 1
It's still possible. No, because I don't want to talk about it.
I just want to throw it out there and keep it pushing. I don't want to hear y'all's opinion on it.
Sure.
Speaker 1 So I told y'all,
Speaker 1
I think I'm pretty sure that I'm going to build a home. Okay.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Do you know the very first thing that came to my mind?
Speaker 1 How big your closet was going to be?
Speaker 1
That's close to being a bitch. It's even bitchier than that.
Bathroom.
Speaker 1 That's a good guess, too. It's even bitchier than that.
Speaker 1 I don't even know.
Speaker 1 Not the staircase.
Speaker 1 Oh, you are a fucking bitch. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 It's y'all look like a princess.
Speaker 1 I have to feel like a princess when I'm coming down the staircase.
Speaker 1
Yo, I don't care neither. I know how it sounds.
Y'all are right about how it sounds. But for you to say first, I want a sexy staircase.
Speaker 1 I ain't think it was bitchy
Speaker 1 You just said some shit about a shoe closet or something then that's bitchy, but
Speaker 1 the fly staircase
Speaker 1 For that to be the first thing to come to your mind, you might be a little bitch
Speaker 1 I agree
Speaker 1 I want to fly sticky. I don't care what y'all say about me.
Speaker 1
Yo, y'all hold it down out, dear man. We'll be back.
Same time, same place this weekend. Maybe.
Yes, sir. Maybe.
Speaker 1
Saying like it's Salt Lake City. What else? No tense on that pretty ass Bentley.
What else? I want you to know that you comments don't offend me. Why? Cause your baby mama's so friendly.
Speaker 1 I beat it with the plan.
Speaker 1 Weed in my hand.
Speaker 1 That was my man.
Speaker 1 Can't keep her in the house. She's too friendly, nigga.
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Oh, yeah, man. Shout out to Janta Murray, man.
Salute.
Speaker 1 Yeah, when you've been on three teams in three years, man, she ain't staying on.
Speaker 1 Hey, we know you got a big contract, but let's get some stability with one of these teams.
Speaker 1 Yo, it down out there, man.
Speaker 1 Be safe, be friendly, be dangerous.
Speaker 1 You've never heard of Joe Buddy.
Speaker 1 We'll fold that up right now.