Episode 874 | "Miley & Molly"
The latest episode from the JBP kicks off with Halloween 2025 before turning to new music in which we have new albums from Big L (40:10), Lloyd Banks (45:55), Westside Gunn (48:00), and DJ Premier & Ransom (49:05). Offset drops a new project as the room reacts to lyrics aimed at Cardi B and Stefon Diggs (52:38), Joe addresses Ish over an AI song from last episode (1:13:14), and for the first time in three decades no Rap song ranks in the Billboard top-40 (1:37:05). Also, the JBP reacts to Suzanne Somers' husband creating an AI model off of the late actress (1:57:04), JAY-Z vs. the field in a Verzuz (2:10:48), Amanda Seales weighs in on a new series being executive produced by Keke Palmer (2:19:50), Joe reacts to licensing your likeness to businesses after the release of a new ADIDAS shoe (2:30:19), Sydney Sweeney's appearance at Variety Power of Women event (2:52:54), Ty Dolla $ign's first-week sales lead the cast to discuss his career moving forward (3:10:54), and much more!
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Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 1
I repeat: it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,
Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.
Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.
Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 Yo.
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Yeah, you talk. You're in trouble.
How about that? You can talk. Okay.
What's up, everybody? How's it? I'm feeling. Nobody can talk because I got masks on.
Feeling good. Feeling good.
Speaker 1 Mike Chick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
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Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.
Even though it was yesterday, but still.
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So what? Halloween. Character day.
Character day.
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Hey, look, look. For the hoes, Halloween lasts all weekend.
That's true. And maybe next week.
Yeah. Potentially.
So happy Halloween, y'all.
Speaker 1 We just just told y'all two weeks ago we don't celebrate this shit.
Speaker 1 Now look at us. Look at us.
Speaker 1 Y'all did not take that well.
Speaker 2 Y'all were so upset.
Speaker 1 Took my little fast ass right to Abracadavera the other day.
Speaker 1 Lying around the block, and nobody clearly knew Pump It Up.
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Last minute. Last minute ass nigga.
I was standing outside just in the rain. Old ass security guard looking at me, just blowing cigarette smoke in my face.
Speaker 2 It was a real one?
Speaker 2 huh? It was a line outside.
Speaker 1
Yes, it was a line five blocks around the corner. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you can't wait till the last minute.
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But then something happened in the store, and they needed him to go inside. Snuck right in there, it's lit.
Got right up in there. So he needed y'all to go inside, then got right up in there.
Speaker 1 Did my thing, did my thing up in Africa, Debra? Shout out to everybody listening for Halloween. A body outside right there.
Speaker 1 He's flopping.
Speaker 1 Listen, I can't talk, so I'm going to get right to it.
Speaker 1 Y'all got me in this mask.
Speaker 1 Y'all get the intro, and y'all get a thumbnail,
Speaker 1 and I'm taking this shit off out of migraine. Yeah, your eyes look all crazy.
Speaker 1 God damn it.
Speaker 1 Mark ain't moving.
Speaker 1 I can't breathe in this joint. Look at Mark Myers.
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Look at Mark Myers over there. Oh, shit.
Freeze, look there. Who you is?
Speaker 1 A black ninja.
Speaker 1 I thought you was being ish
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when he was in his 30s. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 With his karate phase.
Speaker 1 Oh, Shane made red belts.
Speaker 1 It should be here shortly, hopefully. I'm sure he probably won't dress up.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it should be here at some point.
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I think he got a costume. He's going to do this shit.
He got to do this shit. No.
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Oh, yeah, nah. I did enough Halloween here to know how people do.
I went in there and bought masks for all.
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I wasn't playing with them this year. No, sir, really.
This shit. So we got masks, guys.
In the name of Ice, man. The ice cap.
We prepared. We left the baby last year.
Speaker 1 Yeah, y'all left me on the limb last year. I got you this year.
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And this year, I was like, you know what? I'm not even taking a change of clothes. I said, yo, I'm the only one.
I'm the only one. Oh, no, I passed the past.
Speaker 2 Ice, I wish you would have texted me, bro, because I would have dressed up with you, bro.
Speaker 1
This game. You know, I text you.
You don't text back. I'm working on
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the whole team. Yeah, no, she don't text back.
At all.
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And she'll read it. Never.
The only.
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And she got a reverse heat song. Oh, my my God, Corey.
Not you too. Joe is only saying I don't text back because I literally texted him four days ago.
He still has a text back.
Speaker 1 Oh, no, I don't think you're texting the right number, baby.
Speaker 2 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Because I be texting you
Speaker 1 to check on your mental health.
Speaker 1 And you just leave that shit like.
Speaker 1 She don't give a fuck. She does.
Speaker 1
Stop it. Stop it.
Well, then there's that.
Speaker 1 And I was checking on you because they tried to, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 If you're against guns, consider this: gun violence kills 30,000 people each year. So they should take away our guns, right? Car crashes kill 55,000.
Speaker 1 Should they take away our Asians?
Speaker 1 That's a good one.
Speaker 1 Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 I'm sorry if you can't hear me.
Speaker 1 I can't hear you. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 That's it.
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That better not be ish. No, it's my man from jail, too, but he knows truth.
Damn, dubbed the jail call.
Speaker 1 God damn it.
Speaker 1 I'll call you back.
Speaker 1 Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 Shout out to all the parents out there. All the tooth out there.
Speaker 1 It's supposed to mean
Speaker 1 the night.
Speaker 1 And something evil's lurking from the door.
Speaker 1 I felt the moonlight. It's a
Speaker 1 that I almost got your heart.
Speaker 1 You touch me.
Speaker 1 But darling, take this out before you make it.
Speaker 1 Mark Meyer.
Speaker 1 I could say that.
Speaker 1 Hill and I.
Speaker 1 And no one's gonna save you. Find me the fucking new is there.
Speaker 1 Kill and I, you're fighting for your life inside of Keller, tell a fear.
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 you hit the doors.
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1 One, two, one, two. One, two, three, four.
Speaker 1 You never saw the sword.
Speaker 1 You
Speaker 1 against the motion
Speaker 1 to the wild bitching wall
Speaker 1 You're a creature creeping up behind
Speaker 1 a second chance to kill the thing with the forty eyes, girl
Speaker 1 This video used to scare the shit out of me
Speaker 1 This video was scary as shit as you can.
Speaker 1 That wasn't scary, Mona. When you were little,
Speaker 1 you were on a wet block.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 1 It shouldn't look familiar.
Speaker 1 I had myself some fun.
Speaker 1 I've got my leg,
Speaker 1 but nobody,
Speaker 1 no one to call me.
Speaker 1 And now
Speaker 1 I'm there.
Speaker 1 Yes, I am.
Speaker 1 Dance where the winds are not like all new one place, I know. Where the morning people go.
Speaker 1 One of the nights you feel like getting down
Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening for
Speaker 1 one of the nights Victor
Speaker 1 One of the nights you feel like getting down
Speaker 1 Oh, wait for the ladies, all wait for the ladies.
Speaker 1 Uh-uh, none for Zambia.
Speaker 1 People running everywhere.
Speaker 1 Trying to run for my destruction. You know, I didn't even care.
Speaker 1 Fair, fair, tiny ladies.
Speaker 1 I'm zero party over.
Speaker 1 Just out of time.
Speaker 1 So tonight, I'm gonna party like it's nineteen nine to go, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 Keep this applause going for the best girl in the world.
Speaker 1 What's that?
Speaker 1 Who is that?
Speaker 1 Is Mark the Brown here? Pussy, pussy, pussy.
Speaker 1
Oh my God. Okay.
What episode is this? 874. Welcome to episode 874 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by a few bypowered by PrizeFix. PrizeFix gang.
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Humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button Hill, some really amazing people to my right.
Listen, y'all got about two. Actually, yeah, yeah, get to the entire shit.
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Yeah, enough. You did it.
You did it enough.
Speaker 1
You did it. Mark is sitting there.
You ever try to put your cat or dog in an outfit or something? I mean, they just sit there looking stupid.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That's exactly how you fucked this entire intro.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just sitting there like.
Speaker 1
Oh, what a whole new world. Like you're going to put it in the middle.
From under that damn mask.
Speaker 1
We can take him off? You can take that off. You can take that off.
I just lifted mine up.
Speaker 1 Whoa.
Speaker 1 The things we do in the name of content, I tell you.
Speaker 1
But last year we let Freeze out the dry. I appreciate y'all.
I wasn't going to do that this year. I'm here with you, Freeze.
Speaker 1 I told them niggas to bust the glass in Abrica Dabbing when they didn't know who Joe Button was, so they was looking at me like I was in there trying to steal shit.
Speaker 1 Because in the daytime, I walk out looking like that. I walk out looking homeless.
Speaker 1 It's a trick. It's a trick.
Speaker 1
Does it work? It was comfortable. Does the trick work? Just how I look.
I mean, it worked. They ignored me like they would the homeless.
Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Good.
Speaker 1
Yeah, no, but I had a good time in there. Good to see everybody.
Good to be here today. Likewise.
To my right, you know the fucking vibes. Yo.
Racking up the tardies, I tell ya.
Speaker 1
Racking up the tardies, I tell ya. Make some noise.
Don't call white girl, big mom in the building.
Speaker 1 Oh, wait. And let me put some respect on that.
Speaker 1 It's the pod of the month.
Speaker 1 Pod of the month.
Speaker 1 Don't know.
Speaker 2 If you didn't know.
Speaker 1
Sorry. Let me say.
Thank you.
Speaker 1
Thank you, everybody. First month on the gig.
I don't even know if it's been a full month. And you take Potter of the Month.
How do you feel? It's exciting.
Speaker 1 Do you have a speech for the people that voted for you out there?
Speaker 2 First of all, to all my supporters that came over here with me, I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 To all of the.
Speaker 2 That's only funny because it's true.
Speaker 2 To the people that had no idea who I was and enjoyed me, I am so glad that you like me.
Speaker 1 I do.
Speaker 1 I'm happy to have you.
Speaker 2 Yeah, and yeah, I just appreciate it. Like, you know, it's exciting.
Speaker 1 Oh, you don't do well with vulnerable.
Speaker 2 Now I can talk shit in the break room a little more.
Speaker 1 Thank you.
Speaker 1 The break room's just right there.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I have you winning next month, too.
No. Mark says differently, but what does he know?
Speaker 2 Honestly, when I was seeing it, I thought that that was just something that like the communities do. I didn't know it was like a thing.
Speaker 1 I mean, the community votes, votes, but we take it very seriously because we let a community.
Speaker 2 Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1
That's what it is. Oh, yeah.
That's exciting. Okay.
Speaker 1 Next to Mona,
Speaker 1 used to be part of the month
Speaker 1 many, many months ago.
Speaker 1 He was really impactful back then. I don't know what's been going on.
Speaker 1 You let Amani take two from him.
Speaker 1
He's got them from me. You let Amani take two from him.
You know, we chilling already.
Speaker 1
You was like celebrating. You got new shirts? Five in a row, man.
I ain't need no shirts in a while. It's okay.
Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building.
How you feeling, Mark?
Speaker 1
I feel good, man. I feel good.
I feel good. Good.
Glad to have you here. Of course, next to him, you already know the vibes, your favorite potter's favorite potter, Mr.
Fucking Take It Further.
Speaker 1
Big Freeze is in the building. What are you? What's going on? How y'all feeling? Real good.
Real good. How you doing, man? I'm great.
I'm great. Good.
Glad to be here. Ready to get the pot.
Speaker 1 Now, you are prepared for if you see somebody while you're in this outfit,
Speaker 1 for them to try, for them to try you out.
Speaker 2 I was just thinking that.
Speaker 1 You got to be prepped for that.
Speaker 1 He's got the shite steel on, too. So it kind of, you know what I mean? And you're going to go to the gym.
Speaker 1 Could be a little gold.
Speaker 1
Stop, man, because I did core today. And I can't laugh because my stomach hurt like a motherfucker.
Yeah, you did that core.
Speaker 2 Nobody but not you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to test that core out.
Speaker 1
Don't worry about it. They're going to see how much core you did.
Good to have our good brother Freeze with us. Last but certainly not least, not even last, we got some type of.
Speaker 1
You took the horns off. I did.
You need the the horns off.
Speaker 1 No, you need the horns.
Speaker 1
Are they tight? They are. They are.
So I'm like the beast or Prince Charming or my Yakubian self. You know what I mean? Like, a little mixed altar.
Lomix all type. I like it.
I like
Speaker 1 a gay pirate devil. Hey.
Speaker 1 A gay pirate devil. Searching for you, buddy.
Speaker 1
But you're looking good. I'm glad all of us were feeling festive today.
Everybody looks amazing. We got Big Poe in the building.
Poe, you don't do the Halloween shit. Why y'all think?
Speaker 1 Because y'all ain't on camera. Y'all ain't like the rules don't apply to y'all.
Speaker 1
Should have. Thanks.
Should have. That's good as shit.
Thanks. Should have.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1 people taking accountability don't feel good when they do it too fast. Right.
Speaker 1 Like, no, let's soak in it for a second.
Speaker 1 We got big core in the building.
Speaker 1 Erickson's here.
Speaker 1
Erickson is here. Big Juice is here.
Savon and Tana are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys is here.
Ish is on the way here. I think.
Speaker 1
Probably, he probably had to stop by the uh African Abra or Spirit of Halloween. Yeah, probably so.
That's right. He's there.
Most likely. I anticipate him being dressed to the nines.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Flip, our good brother, here with us in Spirit. What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? How are we doing, man? Feeling great, man.
Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.
Speaker 1 Happy Character Day. Yes,
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character day is better. Yeah, character day.
Happy character day. Oh, my God.
Politically correct.
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I want to encourage everyone out there to be careful. Safe.
For sure. Safe.
Safety first.
Speaker 2 You know what's funny? Do kids still do Mischief Night?
Speaker 1 Remember that? That's a Jersey question. Adults are doing it, though.
Speaker 2 Talking about kids. Why do you say that's a Jersey question?
Speaker 1
That's a Jersey thing. Oh, New York City didn't do Misha Night? I think that's a Jersey.
And then Michigan's got definitely
Speaker 2 Philly definitely did Mission Night.
Speaker 1
Oh, did they really? Yeah, Philly did. That's all we used to do.
We did that more to Halloween. Every night did it.
Speaker 2 We celebrated that, but not Halloween.
Speaker 1
I mean, we toilet papered and egged and all that shit. We did Mischief Night.
We just didn't call it. It was just Halloween.
Speaker 2 Was it always the night before? Because that's what their mission night was.
Speaker 1 The night night before.
Speaker 1
It's the night before. Maybe they did it in New York, upstate.
They did not. We just toilet papered shit.
Okay. Smoked weed and got drunk.
Speaker 1
So if you're being mischievous, be like reasonably mischievous or devilish. Don't break nobody's shit.
Yeah, don't break nobody's shit.
Speaker 2 Mischief life's been canceled for 10 years.
Speaker 1
I hope nobody come around my door with that mischief night shit. It ain't called mischief life, mischief night anymore.
It's just life.
Speaker 1 Life is just dangerous and risky.
Speaker 1
That's true. Every day.
So please try to make it home to your families. And eggs are expensive.
That's true.
Speaker 1
Making it home. I don't think people are throwing eggs.
No, they just double. They throwing shit and they stealing shit.
I told you last year, two years ago, they stole my Benny Honda.
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And I chased these kids. Yeah, they stole it.
The leftovers? Huh? Yeah, the Uber Eats. Uber Eats at the door.
It was $200
Speaker 1
worth of Beni Honda. Oh, that's dinner.
I hate when that happens because you'd be mad hungry.
Speaker 1 And I ordered it. It was like the last thing before they closed, so nothing else was open.
Speaker 1 And I was in maplewood my mother-in-law's house yeah i left 200 worth of penny hot and i heard a car speed off
Speaker 1 so you tell you know what i did chased him yeah
Speaker 1 hey mark
Speaker 1 so what happened i chased him down one block chasing down three blocks and i ain't no maplewood then i made a left and suddenly didn't look like maplewood no more apparently i was in ivy hill
Speaker 1 Then I went to the back of some house and it didn't look like the projects. And his niggas are like, who are you looking for?
Speaker 1 And I was like, nobody. You could have the little volcano
Speaker 1
on you. You like like some soy sauce, you got some chopsticks.
I got the fuck up at it. And once I once I saw where I was, I was like, it ain't worth it, but I was definitely chasing them for a while.
Speaker 2 You said Mark is crazy.
Speaker 1 I was like, ain't nobody from Maplewood stealing my fucking Benny Honda. I was going to say,
Speaker 1 my wife last weekend ordered Uber Eats at like four in the morning. And when I went out to get the mail in the morning, it was just sitting there.
Speaker 1 So I was going to say, did you just not go out and get it and fall asleep? No, I was ordering Halloween candy.
Speaker 1
I didn't even fall asleep. It was like maybe 10 minutes.
It was out there for like 10 minutes. And they were just going with it.
Yeah, so sorry that happened to you. I was very upset.
Speaker 1
And I'm glad you were safe. Yeah, I'm glad you said fuck that food.
I wish I had caught him before they got their little housing project. Even after 11 is dangerous.
Speaker 1 That's a fact. It can be.
Speaker 2 I'm just so curious, and I'm also envisioning you attempting to put a nigga in a full Nelson and try to get the Benny Hanna out there.
Speaker 1 Once you got there, was it like, nigga, get it off?
Speaker 1
I don't have rage, but it's the principle sometimes. It's the principle.
You've seen the rage on Kevin.
Speaker 1 That wasn't rage, it's anger, but.
Speaker 2 I just pop a nigga over some fucking trip fried rice, too. Fuck it.
Speaker 1
My wife gets mad at me. I chases.
Anyway, we talk about another topic.
Speaker 1 I don't like people who steal my shit.
Speaker 2 I don't think none of us like it.
Speaker 1 You ever was ordering something and you catching the restaurant at the very last minute, and then right as you about to press in, here go your girl. Yo,
Speaker 1 can I see the menu?
Speaker 1
I'm on a second. And now she's going to take 90 years.
The restaurant closed. And it closed.
And now y'all both starving. And now you eat McDonald's.
Yep. Yeah.
Yeah. That's the story of my life.
Speaker 1 I don't even tell her no more. I just ordered some shit.
Speaker 1 For her, too? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Smart. Yeah.
Smart. It's the only way you're going to get some shit.
Tricky because she normally orders better than me. But either way,
Speaker 1 it don't matter what you order with me because when my food gets there, she wants my food.
Speaker 2 That's true, too.
Speaker 1 Your food tastes better. What the fuck does that mean? My blood pressure went up just hearing you say that.
Speaker 2 I swear to God, your food does taste better.
Speaker 1 In her sweaters, sweatshirts. It don't matter if we order the same thing.
Speaker 2
We can order the same pasta dish. Y'alls have more crab in it.
It's always like that.
Speaker 2 I have to taste yours to make sure you're okay no y'all
Speaker 2 crabs how am i gonna know if it's poisoned or not if i don't taste when i start doing this at the table right it's poison
Speaker 2 it's crazy because all that shit they say about women not wanting nothing you know not knowing what they want to eat acting confused being crazy when they hungry it's all true thank you it's all true we're psychotic i i
Speaker 2 when it comes to food yeah it's good to hear that like that yeah yeah but if you know that why you can't just pick the restaurant
Speaker 1 because when we pick the restaurant it's i don't want that.
Speaker 1 That's why.
Speaker 2 When I say pick the restaurant, I mean pick five.
Speaker 1 I'm glad you owned that. I mean, it's true.
Speaker 1 Y'all own
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everything the girls say about dude Instacart deliverers. Oh, them motherfuckers be.
They're right. Hold on.
Y'all are right.
Speaker 1 This shit going
Speaker 2 somewhere else, okay? Because that's sensitive. That shit ain't funny.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 2 When we get male Instacart drivers, it's instant rage, instant frustration.
Speaker 2 I promise y'all, it's a video on my phone right now with me going to the supermarket, looking out for aisle, finding my Instacart guy, and taking my shit from him.
Speaker 2 I promise you, I had the video and I posted it, but I posted it too fast, and the address was on it, so I had to take it down. But I promise you, it's funny as shit.
Speaker 2 And he just in the aisle lost his shit in the fucking silverware plastic aluminum for you, looking for asparagus.
Speaker 2 I'm like, dog, what the fuck are you down here for? snow paper towels on the list and i'm like i'm the mona it's me like hi
Speaker 2 you're doing a bad job sir horrible bro he was there for two fucking hours i had 10 things y'all suck at the supermarket
Speaker 1 we do wow you know it's big signs in the sky that tells you where the stuff is man that should take too long like all right look this look like it is close enough here yo they replacements be ridiculous look at this replacement i i ordered i always keep them off i ordered gummy bears and they were out of them look
Speaker 1 look what he replaced replaced it with.
Speaker 2 A macchiato.
Speaker 1
That's really all it was. I'm not even joking.
I ordered fucking Albanese gummy bears and he replaced it with a Starbucks macchiato.
Speaker 2 I promise you. That's how it is.
Speaker 1 They were the same price.
Speaker 1
When I asked him why he did, he said, well, they both $3.79. And they both got sugar in it.
Damn.
Speaker 1 This nigga made an executive decision.
Speaker 1 But if I had seen him in person, he would have ranged a little bit.
Speaker 1
I wanted to pizza dog shit. That is other people.
What was the same price money? He said they both $379 in sugar. Yeah, like, what's your problem? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 I loathe them.
Speaker 1 I keep it simple. I just get waters and heavy shit that I don't want to carry.
Speaker 2 And I'm sure women in Instacart ladies make mistakes, but it's not to the volume of that shit.
Speaker 1 My last Instacart guy had his wife with him.
Speaker 1
So. Smart buddy.
They nailed that. See, I don't play that.
Smart. Don't pull up as a couple.
They like to pull up as a couple. Don't pull up as a couple.
They like to pull up as a couple.
Speaker 1
If Jim Jim was an Instacart driver, you know, he'd be coupled up. No, I wouldn't.
Hopefully, she should be getting her own back.
Speaker 1 We both can't be in here
Speaker 1 getting the Instacart back.
Speaker 1 Go.
Speaker 1 Uber or something.
Speaker 1
I don't like when they pull up as a couple. It's weird.
Even though I understand it, you know, broke unity.
Speaker 1
I do, I get it. Holy shit.
Come on.
Speaker 1
It's pain here. But I don't like that shit.
He's only buddy because it's true.
Speaker 2 I delivered pizzas with a nigga before. It was some broke-ass Judy.
Speaker 1
I used to be like, go off this, say hello. That's why you got $3 last time.
Start saying hello good night.
Speaker 1 She was coaching him?
Speaker 2
Fucking right. This motherfucker had no social skills.
Hit knock on the door hearing a piece of walk.
Speaker 1 I'd be like, tell that motherfucker, have a good day.
Speaker 2
I deliver pizzas with a nigga. I'm not playing.
I need to stop telling my business up here.
Speaker 1 Yo, if you're listening to this broadcast as an adult and your child is still sleeping, go check on that little motherfucker. I mean, maybe we didn't search the candy as great as we thought.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 Hey, maybe they did sneak that fentanyl in the Snickers.
Speaker 2 I promise y'all the comments and feedback when we did talk about that before was like, where are y'all from? That doesn't happen. I'm like, it's still on the news to check the candy.
Speaker 1
That's one of them urban legends. And then they say, we got to walk through it.
It probably is an urban legend, honestly. It probably is.
Speaker 2 I'm curious, has it ever happened where somebody was poisoned from Halloween candidates?
Speaker 1
That's a good question. It had to happen.
It don't ever. Remember we.
Speaker 2 This is America.
Speaker 1
Everybody tell that story. I ain't never met nobody that got razor blade in their candy.
I ain't never met nobody who had no drugs and they snickers. Me neither.
Speaker 1 Remember we used to hear at the gas station, they put needles on the handle.
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. It's all bullshit.
Yeah. It's just a scary.
You flash a light, somebody's going to kill you.
Speaker 2 You know what probably has happened? Some dummy gave a kid an edible or a shroom by mistake.
Speaker 1
Oh, I'm sure. That's why we see it.
That's my fear right now.
Speaker 1
I have been around for, I'm letting you get the shit off, but I've been around for people putting shit in the candy. Okay, see.
And it popping up on the news for multiple years. There you go.
Speaker 1
Like, I just don't have that much trust in the community. I don't have that much trust in the news.
We just
Speaker 1
know my neighbors. It ain't like back in the day where your mama used to rely on your next-door neighbor to beat you if you was doing something bad.
This ain't them days no more.
Speaker 1 The neighbor now is
Speaker 1
racist and got a bullet shotgun hole in the door for when you act up. And the Trump sign.
Go ahead and play. And they raising racist kids.
You want to give them a Twizzler? Nope.
Speaker 1 I wish I would give one of you racist little white bastards a Twizzler. I think worse than the Razorblades is when you used to get like Bible verses or pencils or some bullshit like that.
Speaker 1 That's the real problem.
Speaker 1 That's the real bad as hell, bro.
Speaker 2 Raisins.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah, the box of raisins still turns. I got some boxes of raisins.
I got like a popcorn ball one time. I'm like, what the fuck about doing this shit?
Speaker 2 That's the weirdo that thinks if I'm going to give him something that's better than candy just for the kids.
Speaker 1 He'll throw that shit up in the dryway.
Speaker 1 What you gave me? Oh my God.
Speaker 1 No, what the fuck? What kind of fruit? I was that person. You a fruit.
Speaker 1 What fucking grapes? What kind of fruit? No, understand.
Speaker 1 I didn't start with the fruit.
Speaker 1 In fact, it was the day that they stole my Beni Honda.
Speaker 1
I was a little bitter. Revenge.
But also,
Speaker 1 they took some of the, I had bags of candy, and at some point, I ran out of candy. And so if 30 kids is there and you got 20 pieces of candy, you could either close the door on the last 10.
Speaker 1
I didn't give him a grape. I didn't give him a grape.
I gave him a mandarin.
Speaker 2 That's the good kids love clementines.
Speaker 1 Not on Halloween, they don't. You You know how I know?
Speaker 1 Because they're all in my window.
Speaker 1 Don't tell me your wife.
Speaker 1 What? I had like six Clementines marks on my window. Fuck them kids.
Speaker 2 Come on, fuck. I learned something new about Mark every pod.
Speaker 1
The tough part sometimes is just answering the door. Like one year I was feeling like, all right, you know what? I'm into this, man.
You know, the kids.
Speaker 1 Door but ring, ding-dong.
Speaker 1 Go get that shit. Nigga, by the time you make it right back up to
Speaker 1
three flights of steps to your bed, ding-dong. It's like, oh, shit.
They did that for four hours straight. And then one year I bought some candy for these little motherfuckers.
And I put it out there.
Speaker 1
And I was opening the door. But when they was taking the candy, they would be excited while I had the door open.
So now you got to stand there and fake smile. Of course.
Like you like it.
Speaker 1 Like you happy that they have it. I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1
That shit is so trash, yo. That shit is trash.
I ain't going to.
Speaker 1 Leave a big ass bowl and say, take one. Yeah.
Speaker 1
On a note. Yeah.
I don't even leave a note, man. I don't even leave a no.
I put a big ass, the big bowl filled with candy. Do what y'all gonna do.
Speaker 1 I haven't participated in this level of like in our in our in our community, like they don't get greedy with it because they're getting candy from everywhere. Rubber did it one year.
Speaker 1 She was just out there with white claws and shit.
Speaker 1
White claws. Yo.
Not hating out the white claws. She was
Speaker 1 like, yo, that's so.
Speaker 1
They don't do that shit, though. Like, they'll have.
If you're walking around with your kids,
Speaker 1 like for the adults, yo, you want to be here? You want this? That's like, oh, that's good.
Speaker 1
glasses of wine. Like, all right, cool.
We getting lit. Walking around.
Speaker 1 I love that.
Speaker 2 That's a good neighborhood.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 See, that's how I know that we shouldn't be trick-or-treating now because they only going with their parents.
Speaker 1 Like, I ain't, no kids was just traveling in kid crews like bad people. Oh, no.
Speaker 1 They only going with parents now because they know that one of these little weirdo houses will kidnap you like you was the local pit bull and never give you back.
Speaker 2
Yo, remember when the bigger kids will fuck you up and take your bag? Because we would just be outside. It wouldn't be no adults, really.
The adults came out the candy.
Speaker 2 The kids was traveling in packs.
Speaker 1 They had a fat wrist Halloween.
Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. The bigger kids would say,
Speaker 1 every week we learn something about Mona.
Speaker 2 I just remember being really excited because whatever I was doing, I was doing it on my own. So just, you know, it was friends.
Speaker 1 No, it's dope. I can't wait to hear y'all next month's stories about how y'all catch the turkey at the drive.
Speaker 1 Yo, hey, yo, what type of part are we having? An honest one or not?
Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck it. Let's go.
Speaker 1 Thanksgiving's canceled. One of my business people the other day suggested I do a turkey drive.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1
last time I did a turkey drive, it was 25 years ago. Okay.
It was in the projects, and I was on the back of a pickup truck throwing turkeys at niggas with bodies.
Speaker 1 I'm like, now you should have a turkey.
Speaker 1
You killed a few motherfuckers. But, all right, fine.
But apparently, they say it don't go like that
Speaker 1
now. No.
Nah. No.
Speaker 1
We should do a JBP turkey. Absolutely.
That's what I'm saying. I tried two years ago to do a drive.
Speaker 1 But I'm not going out there.
Speaker 1
No, you got to pop out. But if we go to drive where? On the Zoom? No, we got to be there.
Would it be in Jersey?
Speaker 1
Yes. Yes.
What about North Philly? That's far. That's Jersey.
Okay.
Speaker 1 No. We got.
Speaker 1
We're doing something in Philly. Y'all got bigger.
Y'all got bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 1 You got to clean that wet block first.
Speaker 1 I would do a turkey drive if it's the new turkey drive.
Speaker 2 What is the new turkey drive, Joe?
Speaker 1 Yeah, really. What are they doing?
Speaker 2 They still pick up trucks throwing turkeys. That's what they do.
Speaker 1 No, that's not how you do it no more.
Speaker 2 Oh, how is it now?
Speaker 1
Now you have it at a spot. They come in, they get their turkey, and you can do canned goods, all that type of shit, and then they leave.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
And you don't have to be there now. No, you still got to be there, bro.
Well, that's not what my people said. Well, and it's another point, too.
Speaker 2 You don't got to be there if you're paying for everything.
Speaker 1
Well, let's do a homeless drive. Let's do it like.
Oh, never that. No, you're not solid.
Speaker 1 We don't pay that much.
Speaker 1
Mark, I'm not the philanthropist that you are. Listen, listen, it's easy.
I just do it in Philly all the time. This is what you do.
You just, on Thanksgiving Day,
Speaker 1
from like 9 a.m. to like noon, before we all get in and go into our days, we have hot food for them.
Okay. Turkey, some macaroni, green, all this shit.
You can't do that in New Jersey no more. Why?
Speaker 1 It's illegal. It's illegal.
Speaker 1
I think it's illegal. To give out hot food.
Because they put fentanyl in the mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 No, they always fuck with people giving stuff out. That's true.
Speaker 1 That's what we always did. And then people came, they home people came, they ate, they left, give them a bag to go, some blankets, some socks.
Speaker 1 What we used to do,
Speaker 1
me and my moms do this on Christmas mornings. We would go down to Penn Station.
Yeah. Oh, no.
Speaker 1
Prepare like, let's say 50 bags. Yeah.
Just pull up and just hand the back, but the back blanket, socks, toiletries, that type of shit. That's no doubt.
Speaker 2 God bless you and your mother.
Speaker 1
It's not hot. That's not hot.
You can't give no food.
Speaker 1
Unless it's packaged. You can't give out food.
I can't care who packaged food. I don't like Penn Station.
That shit scared. Penn Station scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 Homeless people.
Speaker 1 That's the part of Penn Station. It ain't the Starbucks that scared me.
Speaker 1 Sitting nigga defecating in front of it.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Are there still homeless people by Penn Station? Nigga. Sure.
Speaker 1 It is my last name.
Speaker 1 both of them
Speaker 1 yeah
Speaker 1 yes homeless people move around freaks they don't they don't stay in the same spot yeah but sometimes they do yeah penn station if they ain't left yeah they're down there that overpenny
Speaker 1 spot provides a little bit of shelter i'm talking about north penn station i don't know
Speaker 1 i take the 5 a.m train to dc a lot for and it'd be crazy a block up
Speaker 1 um route 21 it's like a big grass area over there oh i know my wife used to live around the corner they'd out there with tents and shit in the grass yeah yeah i I don't like that place.
Speaker 1 Listen, we're praying for anybody that is homeless. Yes, that is always in need, especially during the holidays.
Speaker 1
We're praying for you if your mental health is not right. We're praying for you if you've been affected or have family that's been affected by Hurricane Melissa.
We're praying for you. Word.
For sure.
Speaker 1 Question for y'all. When black people say, I'm praying for you, is that the prayer?
Speaker 2
99% of the time. I wouldn't say black people limited to black people.
I think that's people, period. People just got used to saying, I'm praying for you, and they don't take the time to pray.
Speaker 1 Do you ever actually go home and pray for people? Yeah, we say I pray.
Speaker 1 We say thoughts and prayers up here.
Speaker 1
And that'd be it. That was it.
That was the thought and the prayer. Thought and the prayer together.
One word. Okay, but if you hold your hands like this while you say it,
Speaker 2 I for sure, first of all, I rarely say, Oh, I'm praying for you. But if I will pray for people, I've prayed for, I pray for people.
Speaker 1 How long is y'all's prayers when y'all go to bed? Do y'all say prayers?
Speaker 1 No, I do not every day, but I pray when,
Speaker 1 no, no, I don't say prayers before going to bed. I have certain times when I pray, like when the cop pulls up my face up.
Speaker 1 Not right now, God. Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 Oh, when you don't have your white face on? Yeah, I don't have it.
Speaker 1
Can't cold switch that one. All right, so you don't pray before bed.
Mark don't pray before bed. Mona?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 You don't. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1
She tried to fake like a monster. I don't know why I didn't get that verse.
I got five times a day.
Speaker 2
These niggas, Islam is perfect. Muslims are people.
I'm supposed to pray five times a day. Last prayer is called Isha.
Speaker 1
And I've skipped it for a little bit. Ice mind your business.
Don't skip it. I'm out.
I'm out.
Speaker 1
I shouldn't. I should.
Parks, you pray before bed? Not every day, but sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 2 The prayer before bed, I don't even get it. Is it like, please gotta get it?
Speaker 1 That's why I lay me down to sleep.
Speaker 2 Oh, like the movies.
Speaker 1 Thank God I woke up. Thank God I made it to bed.
Speaker 1
Thank God in case I don't wake up again. Here are the people that, I mean, oh, y'all are this.
I talk to God all day. Okay, never mind.
Speaker 1 all right do you pray before bed huh do you pray before bed yes every day yeah you get on your knees on the side for the most part for the most part do you get on your knees on the side of the bed no yeah you do yes you do no for prayer though
Speaker 1 how does how does it work oh how do you know if it's getting through
Speaker 1 i hate it
Speaker 1
yes i pray for the most part before and i'm in bed i love that and you just do this no I don't. I'm just trying to.
I'm trying to picture you.
Speaker 2 You were raised to pray before being on the soulmate.
Speaker 1 No, I believe in him.
Speaker 2 I just, it seemed like that's like a single thing.
Speaker 1 You can't.
Speaker 1 But if you're not doing any type of ritual with it, you're just like thinking good thoughts. Yeah, he's been talking to himself.
Speaker 1 Exactly.
Speaker 2 You're talking to God.
Speaker 1
Y'all are sick. No, that's not bad.
That's what's crazy. I'm going to do this first.
Speaker 1 I'm no longer discussing this with y'all.
Speaker 1
And I damn sure don't talk to Corey about it. You can't talk to him about nothing.
Just know, I pray for him, too.
Speaker 1 He needed the most. That's why he alive still.
Speaker 1 He thinks he's just running on his atheist beliefs. No, nigga.
Speaker 1
Covered in the blood. That's me.
Yo, check for him, too. No, that's my man.
Hold him down. Hold him down.
He don't know. He don't know him.
I love him. He don't know.
Guide him.
Speaker 1 Please give him direction and a heart.
Speaker 1 Give him some feelings.
Speaker 1
Wizard hotspot. A girlfriend.
Give him a warm vagina before he fucking passes on. please.
Something. Yeah, I pray for you.
I pray. It's working.
I pray for people. Yeah.
Just working. He's warming up.
Speaker 1
No, he's warming up. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. He got a new phone, man.
That didn't come just by itself. Exactly.
Speaker 1 You know, I'll be showering on pod days.
Speaker 1 Thank you. That's the best way to do it.
Speaker 1
My wife told me that shit too. She be like, you know, it's a pod day.
You should shower. You won't got to text you to remind you.
Speaker 1
And my wife told us. What's up? I got you.
Did you ever remind you that
Speaker 1 you want to hit that? That shit was like a commercial. Your shit went from.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I thought you had no socks.
Speaker 2 Joe don't like socks.
Speaker 1
I thought he had no socks. Bullshit today.
Damn. Yeah, it's a holiday, man.
Yeah, he don't give a fuck what's going on. It's a holiday.
Speaker 1
Something. It's enough.
He don't give a fuck. It's a something today.
You don't give a fuck. Hey, all right.
That was better.
Speaker 1
I meant to shout out the Blue Note the other day. What's his name put on an amazing show, yo? Robert Glasper.
Robert Glasper, man.
Speaker 1
It called it Rob Tober, and he had all these different artists. And last Friday, what's his name came through? Bilal came through.
Oh, man.
Speaker 1
Bodied it. It was an amazing performance.
He killed it. The artists, the place was packed.
And then Common slid through with Jennifer Hudson. Oh, shit.
And they both took the stage and performed. Oh.
Speaker 1 And put on, and so did Thundercat. Oh,
Speaker 1
yeah, it just turned out to be like one of the amazing performers. Shout out to Robert Glasper and everybody at the Blue Note, man.
We got to all do an out into one of them spots, man. I agree.
Speaker 1
Invite us. Yeah, words.
I don't own the Blue Note, nigga. I mean, you on the phone.
Speaker 1
Yo, go on here. Would y'all like to? Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that.
That's kind of you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw the pics of you backstage.
Speaker 1 I mean, I was like, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 Mark, a little common.
Speaker 1
I like all these guys. You don't go outside, though.
I go to the Blue Note for musicians. Okay.
Oh, now I know that. I don't know your rules.
Speaker 1 I assume you don't go out unless you have to, and then you leave about 60%
Speaker 1
through a show. No, I go out for live music depending on what's going on.
And Robert Glassberg. I'll say less.
I love. Yeah, definitely.
All right, where do you find people who want to start today?
Speaker 1 Anywhere in the world y'all want to start, I'm down.
Speaker 1 Let's fucking go. Let's fucking do it.
Speaker 2 Did y'all, as I had this on, this is it, right?
Speaker 1
No, that's Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Okay, go ahead.
I had an it conversation.
Speaker 1 What is it, though?
Speaker 2
I watched, because I rarely watch television. I watched that something called Dreary City.
I guess it's like the start of the show, where it started from.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I cut that shit off. Huh? I cut that shit off.
That shit was ass.
Speaker 2 Oh, it sucked to you.
Speaker 1 To me.
Speaker 2
I was just totally confused by it. I don't know.
I want to know, did y'all watch it? Have y'all watched it?
Speaker 1 It was bad acting, bad writing, everything. I had to cut that shit off.
Speaker 1 But if you enjoy it, by all means. It was just gory.
Speaker 2
I can't say I enjoyed it. It just freaked me the fuck out.
It's only one episode, though, as it came out.
Speaker 1 Yeah, just the one episode.
Speaker 2 Yeah, it couldn't suck that bad because it definitely made me curious about episode two.
Speaker 2 Because I couldn't figure out how it had anything to do with what the fuck they were doing, especially with the uh, like with the car seat and all that.
Speaker 1 It was crazy. That shit was crazy.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yo, none of y'all saw it.
Speaker 1 No, I didn't even heard of it.
Speaker 2 Like, watch it.
Speaker 1 Or dope. Yeah, maybe not.
Speaker 1 I like shit like, you know, make me laugh.
Speaker 2 You know, oh, no, yeah, it's scared.
Speaker 1 It's technically the origin of it, where he comes from. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 Okay. That shit sound like an ad, nigga.
Speaker 1 At the top of the pod, yeah. Right.
Speaker 1
I mean, I'm letting it come. I'm gonna go to the bottom.
Say issues with the new balance, right? They slide it in real slow.
Speaker 1
What's your new show, guys? I left more runway today because I know you like to talk. We're giving it to you today.
No, seriously. Seriously, I want to hear you, goddammit.
Speaker 1 But shut the fuck up on the front.
Speaker 1 On the front, though, let's, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Do y'all want to do music or do you want to do it? Yes, because I'm fucking mad at you.
Speaker 1 Oh, this is hilarious.
Speaker 1
I wake up about 5 a.m. That's when I, you know, I can listen to music, especially new music before the family wakes up.
Right.
Speaker 1 And I've been waiting for the big.
Speaker 1 Y'all make married life sounds so great.
Speaker 1 I got to check my
Speaker 1 glasses.
Speaker 1
I feel you. I feel you.
Yeah, because you know, and it's big. I'm listening to big L.
I can't listen to Big L at 5 a.m. with no, with nobody else up.
Speaker 1 And why your partner, like, it feels weird explaining that, yo, I'm listening to new music.
Speaker 1 Right. Like, that feels like a weird thing to have to, I'm allotting time to listen to new music.
Speaker 1 Doing something by myself. I'm doing something without you, yo.
Speaker 1 I'm doing something I enjoy more than you we got a nice rhythm in my house and that's the problem she goes to read her books I go in the basement and watch football or listen to music or both
Speaker 1 so that's that fucking man yeah yeah he's just doing
Speaker 1 this
Speaker 1 get a man cave man it's important
Speaker 1 and find a hobby for them or that's the urge them to have
Speaker 1 so mine is just she found her hobby on her own no that's that's very smart right now I just let her sleep at 5 a.m.
Speaker 1 I go downstairs my son sleeps till he decides to wake up and terrorize me I I went into the basement, pulled up the Big L album. I'm excited because I've been waiting for the Big L album.
Speaker 1
Obviously, he's a legend. I love him.
And I see the track list. I see Hove.
Speaker 1
I see Nas, which we already heard, of course. You know what I'm saying? Method Man.
Method Man, whose verse was crazy on there.
Speaker 1
Joey badass. But I don't listen to none of them first because my man is listed.
It says Joe Button
Speaker 1
and Big L got a song together. Yeah, it did say they do.
It did. I skipped past Hove.
I skipped past Nas.
Speaker 1
I skipped past Joey. You went the right thing.
We did the right thing. Went straight to Joe Butt.
Oh, man. And it's this nigga doing what he do every day.
Speaker 1
I hear this nigga talk every Tuesday and Friday. I don't get the fucking put on a track for that shit.
You was just pontificating. Not one bar, not one verse.
Shit ain't rhyme.
Speaker 1 What the fuck? Yeah.
Speaker 1
Shout out to the Big L Project. Yeah, for sure.
I did the same thing on Connie Diamond's album. I did the same thing on a few's album.
Speaker 1 Man, they was advertising it as features, and you were listed as one of the features. You thought that I would have a live verse out there and nobody here know?
Speaker 1
I thought it was possible that you had a verse from 10, 15 years ago that nobody knew. Yeah, that you were sitting on it.
Oh, you thought it was an old verse? I thought it was an old verse.
Speaker 1 I knew you didn't go in a booth and rap nothing.
Speaker 1
Oh, old verse. But I thought it was a classic verse, maybe that was unreleased.
Oh,
Speaker 1 that big L here got his hands on. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 Or that you just decided, you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought so. A few people did hit me like, yo, is this a new verse? A couple people hit me too.
Speaker 1 A couple people hit me that expressed their disappointment when they found out what it was. But I mean, that's what I want want to know how them win.
Speaker 1 I know niggas was tight. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And the way it was promoted.
Like, I saw blogs pushing it. Yo, Big L new album has features from Jay-Z and Joe Button.
I ain't see nobody else's names.
Speaker 1
Like you said, it's a bunch of other people listed up there. I think they get more sad when they hit me and they see my reaction.
My reaction is like, yo, LMAO, dog.
Speaker 1 Did you really believe
Speaker 1 I was going to stop what I'm doing right now and go rap?
Speaker 1 Sorry. But I do like the Big L Project.
Speaker 1 Me too, man they did a really good job it's hard to do posthumous albums at any point and especially with L there wasn't like a he was in the tape era there wasn't just like a million freestyles on someone's hard drive like or half done songs or whatever so they did a really good job of pulling together stuff that some stuff is new some stuff is uh kind of existed in the underground youtube world for years
Speaker 1 glad that there's a home for that yeah me too me too the whole second half of the album really is that yeah it's the freestyle radio freestyles, but touched up and you know with the
Speaker 1
well they got AI now. You can separate the vocals a little bit more than you ever could so you can actually make it sound pretty good.
And they did a really good job of that.
Speaker 1
One other thing I like about this project is when it was first announced, the family had went up. One, I like that the family was involved.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 The family went up and was like, hey, fans, let us know what records you want to hear because we want y'all to feel like y'all have been a part of this creative process as well. That's fine.
Speaker 1
So now we're picking the favorites that, okay, y'all wanted that record. Y'all wanted that one.
That's cool. We'll go back, get that, clean clean it up, and put on the project.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
But like y'all said, everybody that featured. Yeah.
That Mac Miller records. That Mac Miller got busy on that.
That's another one I saw. I saw a lot of people upset about that.
Speaker 1
So set? Upset. Upset.
A lot of that. Because they were just like,
Speaker 1 I guess
Speaker 1 the pairing.
Speaker 1
I heard people say it was a little too warm and fuzzy. Like, it wasn't like the vibe they wanted from a Big L album.
They said his verse wasn't. I liked the verse.
I thought he killed.
Speaker 1
I just liked the verse. The track was definitely different than the rest of the album.
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
But I was good with it. I was good with it.
I was mad at it. I was good with it.
Speaker 1
The seven-minute freestyle, again, like Hove is Hove. And it's a good.
I like hearing classic verses from artists I respect. To remember how Hove rapped 20 years ago, 25 years ago.
I like that.
Speaker 1 The sound of it, again, they remastered some of the shit stuff. It didn't sound the way I, like, I.
Speaker 1
I like the old sound. I like the old mixtape sound vibe a little bit.
So some of it I didn't, I thought it was overproduced a little bit on the album, but in general. It was reasonable.
Demoitis.
Speaker 1
Yeah. But it was great.
All that shit made me feel like I was on a Hall of Block in 96. Yeah, yeah.
Running again.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Got hurt with the rough on there and shit.
Yeah, man. It felt good.
It felt good. Got Showbiz on there.
Shout out to Show.
Speaker 1
Lauren Finesse did a B on there. I don't remember what the record is, but shout to the whole digging.
I would have liked to hear a little bit more digging production, but I understand how it goes.
Speaker 1
And shout out to Royce, who executive producer. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Mike.
Speaker 1
But yeah, no, the Big L shit is hard. And shout out to Joe Bund on there, motherfucker.
You did a great job. You did a great job.
You did a great job. You really tied the album together.
Speaker 1 You brought it home.
Speaker 1
Breast of Peace, Big L. Shout out to Master Peel, as always.
They've been killing it. They have.
Great job. I'm looking forward.
Mass appeal is doing such a great job.
Speaker 1
I'm looking forward to just anything Mass Appeal. That's it.
Same. That's it.
They're doing amazing stuff. This is Halloween.
Speaker 1 The next one is the Nas and Premi album, right? Yep. Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 1
I believe so. Now, that I'm really excited about.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 It's Halloween. Halloween Havoc 6.
Speaker 1 You know. Boy Banks.
Speaker 1
And I feel like an idiot. I had no idea.
Yeah, when I saw you, when you was like, wait, what? I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 This would have been my
Speaker 1 go-to?
Speaker 1
Yeah. I had no idea that this was dropping at all.
Yeah, I had the Big Ella record for a couple of weeks now. I'd have gone right to Banks.
Yeah, but it's been 16 tracks, man. Yeah.
Speaker 1
It's some fire on it. It's Six of Swords.
I bought it, but I ain't listened to it yet. So I'm excited to get to it.
I didn't get to fully listen. I got three tracks in this one.
Speaker 1
I'm about halfway through. Well, I want something from it.
Somebody give me something.
Speaker 1 All right, this is Eat What You Eat What You Kills, bro. Eat What You Kill.
Speaker 1 I like to introduce you so much.
Speaker 1 The six of swords.
Speaker 1 B sounds hard.
Speaker 1 B sounds crazy.
Speaker 1 Sound the bangs, hole queens, what up?
Speaker 1 Eagles.
Speaker 1
We hear somebody's giving up. We ain't praising no forefitters.
More fitness miracles don't exist like my tall pictures. We're war bridges, we applaud business.
Speaker 1
Lyricists and small pickings, you dropped me, your reaction was all creatures. More ditches than store visits, your broad quivers.
Watch it, you're pointing at. You can leave here with four fingers.
Speaker 1
The culture's more than Morgan talk slickers. I stand on my own.
These rappers connected to gangs extort niggas. I've seen it all, senior citizen, immature niggas.
Speaker 1 Put the judgment complexion, bro.
Speaker 1
Despite the temperature, the block's cold. Come have a walk with us.
Look by the knife, knife, you'll eventually come across ditches. Hoping these words will influence you more before decisions.
Speaker 1 When everyone merches, there'll be some more collisions. Another classic for me in the book is more precision.
Speaker 1
No prize. No prize.
Thanks to you when you kill off Lloyd Banks. I can't wait to listen to this whole shit.
Speaker 1
I didn't even know it came out. Shout out to Lloyd Banks, man.
Our guy. Our guy.
Friend of the show. For sure.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't wait to get to that.
Speaker 1 And Amanda, I didn't know that was out there. I just want to finish the rest of it.
Speaker 1 Heels Have eyes three i'm sorry go ahead no go ahead heels have eyes three west side gun y'all oh yeah gun drop too also kind of a surprise drop didn't know it was coming i listened i skimmed through on the way into work today um so anything stand out um it sounded great the the stove god record was my favorite off rip um it westside gun just makes quality albums yeah over and over and over i'd say so consistency so consistently yeah and and often yeah the pace i was like i feel like we just dropped something is this the gun that i like or no
Speaker 1
Maybe less than the last one. Okay.
But it's still good. It's fire.
Yeah. It's fire.
Everything I heard. I only listened to it quickly, but it was good, what I like so far.
Speaker 1 I'm speaking to ICE's tastes.
Speaker 1 What's your gun taste, Paulson?
Speaker 1 I like when he approaches the track seriously.
Speaker 1
Got you. That's the best way to put it.
Okay.
Speaker 1 He's rapping on there. It's just not as much like song, finished song.
Speaker 1
I know. Before, like, when he's just ad Libby and not that.
No, it's not that. No, it's not that.
He's rapping on there. He's rapping on it.
And always great production.
Speaker 1 Always great production. We got Preman Rand, the reinvention.
Speaker 1 Big jersey. Let's go.
Speaker 1
So happy for them. Me too.
I love where Rand is at. Just in hip-hop.
Speaker 1 I love the people in hip-hop that seem to just be comfortable with themselves.
Speaker 1
Rand is chilling. Rand is eating soup and celery.
He's in the gym.
Speaker 1
Working out. He's on an island.
He's running track. He's shred up, cut up, making music.
Don't want to go TikTok with you niggas.
Speaker 1 Don't want to go sit in front of people that don't understand what's going on. And to hear a rapper of that caliber over production of this caliber is a treat for music lovers all over the world.
Speaker 1 I am blessed to still remember my reaction. the very first time
Speaker 1 we unearthed ransom in jersey city in 90, whatever that what 01, 2000, I don't remember the fucking year, but
Speaker 1
we were blown away. So shout out to the fans that are just now getting to experience that in 2025.
Shout out to Preem, four decades, five decades of legend, word,
Speaker 1
of legend. I am blessed and honored to know you.
I am so honored to know some of you people, man.
Speaker 1 I can't lie.
Speaker 1
I can't lie. We don't say it enough.
We don't say it enough.
Speaker 1
And these are two of those brothers for me. So.
And it's hard. It's hard.
And Bring it back rap radar was fire, too. Happy to be a part of that.
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Getting to see B-Dot look all uncomfortable for a second.
Speaker 1 B-Dot and Elliot look like they should talk. Yeah.
Speaker 1
But that's why I fuck with Rand. B-Dot and Elliot looked like they had just gotten together to talk to Rand, but hadn't talked to each other.
That was fire.
Speaker 1
And they both are so great at journalism. I know it's not a word.
So? It is not. Don't matter.
They are so great at journalism.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
They're good. They're really good.
Yeah, no, they're great. Great job.
Great job. Yeah, give me something.
Speaker 1 Give me a little something. Let's go.
Speaker 1 Halloween vibes. Yeah,
Speaker 1 you might should rob tonight, vibes.
Speaker 1
Yeah, they say time waits for no man. Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
So bet I replace your broke hands. They ain't gotta watch, still write two times a day.
Speaker 1 Let me validate, there's no change. In this lifetime, if any man mortals struggle or write rhymes against this force, I cut off his lifeline.
Speaker 1 Wanna be icon who bombs on stage while I'm blowing up every step I take. Cause they look like
Speaker 1
I pray God sends me the right signs. When it's dark, a roach gonna scatter as soon as the light shine.
It's deep in their anatomy, come when the work's done.
Speaker 1
But discipline is a bridge between dreams and reality. Y'all rappers never seen no murder seen with a casualty.
From a wicked place where murder seemed formality.
Speaker 1
Nervous fiends who casually step over the body, the cop drugs like they never heard the screams of agony, agony, agony. That's a cut above.
The reinvention's out now. Shout out to Preem.
Speaker 1 I hope that this pace of these short album EPs or whatever you want to do continues.
Speaker 1
I love just. Nah, they found a good bop on there.
Short, concise, to the point.
Speaker 1 Like, don't you, the night just drag shit.
Speaker 1
And I could double back at any time. Yeah.
That's why I noticed that the short album joints, niggas is coming right back. Yep.
I like that. I love it.
Speaker 1
Offset, another surprise project for me. I didn't know it came out either.
I had no idea. Listen, maybe that's just me at 45 now.
Speaker 1
Maybe I should just stop coming in here and say, oh, I had no idea you were. Yo, maybe I just don't know no more who's dropping.
How do we find out now?
Speaker 1 Dog, every week I hit that new music, latest, what's coming. Yo, I'm checking dates on albums that are in.
Speaker 1
So I try to know. I go to like, but some of this shit don't be listed, listed, yo.
Like, like, that offset project wasn't listed. Yeah, that definitely wasn't listed.
Speaker 1
And that shit dropped at midnight. I just happened to be up by open.
I said, wait, offset snuck. I'm thinking of EP.
Something three, you know, something.
Speaker 1
It is shorter than the last project, but it's still full-length. And I was just like, oh, shit, he dropped a full-length project.
Oh, let me run it.
Speaker 1
I like it. Haunted by Fame.
Yeah, it's only 25 minutes long. I haven't heard of it.
Let's get to the T.
Speaker 1 Let's get to the T, though. What's the T? Listen,
Speaker 1
we still here to be, well, at least me. I'll speak for me.
I'm still here to be a chatty patty.
Speaker 1
I see some of the talk out there. You niggas is on couches gossiping like bitches.
I agree sometimes.
Speaker 1
I agree. Y'all ain't saying nothing.
Hey, y'all ain't saying nothing wrong. Niggas is sitting up there chatting shit.
Speaker 1
But these niggas are giving to you. So here we go.
Offset. And what I'm sure he didn't feel like saying on his album, he said on this mixtape like project.
Speaker 1
I'll ask y'all if y'all believe him in a second. Here we go.
Stop saying no sweat, right?
Speaker 1 No sweat.
Speaker 1 You ain't happy, y'all know how it works. How you married and still giving birth.
Speaker 1 That's it.
Speaker 1 That's what you get.
Speaker 1
That's what you get. I'll give it to you one more time.
It's fast.
Speaker 1 Oops.
Speaker 2 He said, How you leaving Jordan for Robin?
Speaker 1 Yes,
Speaker 1 how you leaving Jordan?
Speaker 2 So we calling him kinky, freaky, kinky, freaky.
Speaker 2 I mean, right?
Speaker 1 Business Robin has like a. I guess that's what he is.
Speaker 2 Business Robin was a very free man,
Speaker 2 and some might call that kinky freaky.
Speaker 2
I don't know. I saw people giving the flack, like, oh, we tired of hearing it or whatever.
But me, I'm somebody that I appreciate where artists go through shit and put it in their art.
Speaker 2 I kind of hate the whole like new way we do shit and people just talk shit and do interviews and tweet shit.
Speaker 2 I feel like artists are supposed to respond with songs you know what i mean so he of course he it's like cardi said a lot on her album and she also has been real open about things i just saw her recently talk about i don't know where she was but she was speaking about um why they're really not divorced and why she feels like he's holding it up or whatever it's like that's their personal business he get to say something back people kill me when it's like you can't say anything back that nigga can say what the fuck he wanted he a rapper he's supposed to say it like that i think it could have went harder i don't know why he went so light well still because as a man you can't as a man do it i totally get him going light he sounded like he didn't want to do that when he tell me why when he when he came up here he basically said yo as a guy there's just certain shit that's that's that's flawed it's certain shit that's not g-code it's certain shit that's not keeping the people no matter what she does she could say everything in the world me as a guy i cannot do it he said that i think some men out there understand that
Speaker 1 and i don't
Speaker 1 understand that because these niggas today will argue with the fight.
Speaker 1
Go right there. I ain't with that.
Argue in this fight.
Speaker 1 Yeah, all of it's nasty.
Speaker 2 To respond,
Speaker 2 in that case, your hands are bisexual. I feel like
Speaker 2
I do totally get that when you explain it that way. But for me, that would be leaving him out of it.
Why is he robbing then? Nigga ain't do nothing to you. He just married your older.
Speaker 1 So you know. I know the jab and the nigga.
Speaker 1 But you ill. that's not me i never i was so focused on the jordan part yeah that i didn't get to
Speaker 1 i didn't go to why might he be saying rodman
Speaker 1 when you say jordan to me you're just saying i'm the best over no matter who you are you fucking say pippin
Speaker 1 right
Speaker 1 he said rodman for a reason but that's but that's fly i mean the rumors are out there i ain't gonna say them because i ain't got no proof of none of that shit it's none of my business and i'm against i'll say and i'm against don't don't do that i'm against pulling people out of the closet correct i'm against that with that?
Speaker 2 I don't, first of all, I don't, if I'm addressing rumors that I heard, it has nothing to do with what he really is. That's number one.
Speaker 2 So it's like, that's not pulling nobody out of the closet, saying what somebody says something about.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 pulling people out of the closet part. Got it.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2
That's my personal opinion. I feel like what he said is true and what y'all saying makes sense.
But the real version of that would definitely be not throwing a jab at him. And I took that as a jab.
Speaker 1
Well, he's throwing, and that's the other part. Because as he said, he keeps trying to act like I'm not hurt and I'm not bothered.
Yes, you are, dog. It's okay.
It's on that.
Speaker 1
Like, even in there, you think I'm hurt, but I'm not. Yeah, you are.
True. You are.
Speaker 1 Everything you have been doing is showing a man that's hurt or bothered and trying to act like I'm not. Like, you're going so far to try to act like, I don't really give a fuck what you're doing.
Speaker 1
But you're watching everything. When dude have a bad game, you're posting about it.
Like, you doing a lot of hurt shit
Speaker 1
that we can see it. But then you'll sit down and say, oh, I ain't hurt.
I'm keeping it play. I'm keeping it pee.
No, you're not. I want to offer pushback on that.
Go ahead. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1 I think I'm on the other side of that.
Speaker 1 Today, I think I believe him. Like, with this project, with him saying it today, I've echoed your sentiments
Speaker 1 on his album when it came out. And I was like,
Speaker 1 what about his antics on the internet?
Speaker 1 I don't think they...
Speaker 1 I don't really think he's showing out. I didn't say show out.
Speaker 1 If you don't care, you don't care. You can't sit here and say, I don't care and show you that I care.
Speaker 2 There's no way you don't care and you post him losing the game. Unless you post him losing the game prior to this happening.
Speaker 1
You post him losing the game. I mean, he loses the game and then you go make a little slick comment on your Instagram right after him losing the game.
You know what you're doing.
Speaker 1
You know what they're going to do. You know the coverage is going to get.
Why do you care if he has zero catches for
Speaker 1 whatever? You're right. Why do you care about his stat line? You're right.
Speaker 2 Why are you even watching? You sound like a chick.
Speaker 1 That's what chicks do. That's right.
Speaker 1
That is exactly what women do, bro. I'm not letting.
I know, no, no, no. They start that Instagram, taking a shot at the other girl type of shit.
That's what women do. Men don't do that.
Speaker 2 Men don't go like the other person, the other guy.
Speaker 1 I can have a problem with homeboy.
Speaker 1 Like, I'm, I want to agree with y'all, if I'm just pardon, but I do understand him.
Speaker 1 I could have a problem with Duke separate from whatever me and my very still wife are going through, especially if the rumors are true of you sleeping sleeping with my wife.
Speaker 1 And then I had a baby in there. And then you had a baby.
Speaker 1 There's a lot of reasons why if he feel like posting Steph going scoreless in a game, you on every song saying, I got a nigga more handsome than you, that's better than you, that's doper than you.
Speaker 1
Oh, I'm so small and tiny. He's so big and tall.
And you do have it. You having a blast.
As women.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but so if a nigga get out of character, because I'll agree with you. Don't say nothing.
Speaker 1
But if if a nigga get out of character once or twice, I'm not going to put all the sauce on, oh, you care, you care, you care. Nigga, that's my wife.
We're going,
Speaker 1 we're actively going through a divorce. You don't know what I'm dealing with behind the scenes.
Speaker 1
You don't know what I'm dealing with with these kids. You don't know how she's responding to me in real life.
Like, if I've slipped up online once or twice, don't put it all on.
Speaker 1 I believe him when he says, yo, I ain't as hurt as y'all think. There's been times where I've gone through a breakup with public darlings because women play public darling games better than you.
Speaker 1 Women care about the aesthetic more than you. So yeah, where you fucking do some shit and the public darling lady, the whole the fans say, oh, you motherfucker, you cheated on her.
Speaker 1
How could you, you lost on, you lost on her, you lost her, you never get it back in the name. And the nigga be like, yo, dog, I know her in real life.
She dirty as shit. Her trunk dirty now.
Speaker 1
The bathroom is dirty. The pussy is dirty.
She fucked. And let's get to that too.
Because I'm not saying her pussy is dirty. I'm just talking that.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, all fire.
Speaker 1 Also, how you handle our divorce or breakup may indeed make me look at you differently than I did when you were my wife.
Speaker 1 I'm not trying to cape him, but if we going through our shit and then you go fuck the football player while we yada, yada, yada, I think as a guy, you can have a feeling about it. I do.
Speaker 1 Without people being able to come back.
Speaker 1 Nothing. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.
I feel like. I'm saying that's human to have that feeling.
Yeah, I don't know. But don't now act like you don't have that feeling.
Speaker 2 There's no way. I agree with Ice.
Speaker 1
I can't. He's walking around like Superman.
I don't give a fuck what she's doing. I'm cool.
I'm cool. I guess you do.
Right. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 What you saying is right, but I feel like what you saying, it fits more if he stepped to him when he seen him at the club. It fits more if he messaged him directly.
Speaker 2 But to throw it in a song, it gives man. I don't think that
Speaker 2 there is any rules, which you can do, you can't do what you heard.
Speaker 1 People be hurt, people hurt. But y'all are
Speaker 2 held to a different standard.
Speaker 2 In my opinion, for him to throw a jab at his athleticism in a song, it's no way that you can then say, you think I'm hurt, i'm not it just doesn't match that's all i'm saying i think that it would be different like to go to your point right because of the white part but i can see you approach a nigga in person that way but to throw it on a song about his athleticism like that's gonna hurt car that offends nobody but him and his fans
Speaker 2 offends nobody but him and his fans
Speaker 1
put it in art i do I do. He's artists.
So if he feel away about something that Homeboy did separate of you fucking my wife and taking my wife, then why you feel differently about him putting it on?
Speaker 2 I don't feel no differently. I just feel that he can't say I'm not her.
Speaker 1 I can't do that.
Speaker 1
So my response. All right.
So my, yeah, all right. I understand.
I agree with you. My response to that is I believe that, again, I said that I believe him today.
Okay.
Speaker 1 Today,
Speaker 1
upon this release. I think there are phases to the breakup.
Absolutely. We've all been through breakups, for sure.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 So I think that after I hurt and ball up and cry and get over the shock of you leaving and you bought a new house and i'm in my mansion alone oh you dude on once you get over yourself
Speaker 1 and you can assess properly sometimes you'd be you be like all right i get it even if you up i'm not saying that he's an angel even if you up
Speaker 2 the whole time you talking up before not not this time but the time before when you talking to you like the way you carry our breakup can make me look at you different
Speaker 2 please like what we had to break up because because you're because he was in a relationship while i don't give a
Speaker 2 how you feel i do the breakup you my op you my cousin like you gonna judge me on how we broke up when you was dogging me we was together i don't give a
Speaker 2 now i go with the mailman but but just to be clear they both they allegedly allegedly both have that story but when i say that i'm like my opinion they both looking at each other like the spider-man me oh i didn't first of all i didn't know anything about her his op second of all i feel like that when i was responding to you bigger than cardi in them period.
Speaker 2 When you say, Oh, I'm judging you how we broke up, if the relationship is a breakup because she left because of you, it's like, bro, who gives a fuck how you do it? Yeah, come on, bro.
Speaker 2 That's just a woman with a man thing.
Speaker 1 I get it.
Speaker 1
I get that. And I agree with that.
I agree with that. I just don't think that he is sulking right now.
Speaker 1 I don't think he's soaking. Which op, did you fucking girl?
Speaker 1 It ain't even a matter of sulking. It's just like
Speaker 1
he seems like he's, I'm still paying attention to your moves. I'm still keeping up with y'all.
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1
And if you move past it, you over it, you don't really do those things as much no more. Unless I don't want it to be.
Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 1 I don't want it to sound like I think that in a different world, they both would take each other back tomorrow. I do too.
Speaker 1 Let me be clear on that. I ain't trying to say like they both are moving on.
Speaker 1 I do too. I wouldn't be shocked if they are.
Speaker 2 I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2 I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1 Who would be surprised? Right.
Speaker 1 All they energy gives is they might end up back together.
Speaker 1 Nah. You know how old that's going to be.
Speaker 2 If you say no, you think we didn't take who back. You think he would go with shit?
Speaker 1
I don't think he would. Only to shit.
I would be shaky about her.
Speaker 1
She's worried. I don't even think about her.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2
I was thinking her. Maybe she's done.
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 I don't think he gonna go back for sure.
Speaker 2 One thing about it is, I think they were really in love with each other at a point, and it sucks watching the whole thing. It do, especially after they built that family.
Speaker 1 You know how old that kid gotta be before I say, oh, they ain't getting back together.
Speaker 2 At least six.
Speaker 1 I'm thinking seven.
Speaker 2 That's the first time niggas stop hitting the baby.
Speaker 1
Now, at seven years, you should be able to pick your kid up on a Thursday and every other weekend without sticking your dick. Without getting a chewy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the way out.
Speaker 1
At seven, you stop pulling all the tricks of trying to get in her house to fuck. Right.
You slow down. Seven, you beep the horn, let the nigga walk off.
Exactly. You don't walk the nigga out.
Speaker 1 You ain't got to pee no more when you get to her house.
Speaker 2 24 is like you in your booty shorts when you pull up.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 2 Did you eat?
Speaker 1
Yes. Did you eat? In the first five, six years, your baby mom or baby daddy is still trying to look like him or her in front of you.
At seven and eight,
Speaker 1
that's when it's over. It's over, though.
The feelings are like officially.
Speaker 2 Like, I wouldn't even date guys with kids younger than seven, eight when I didn't have kids because I knew that you probably fucking her.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? That is a common thing.
Speaker 1 Oh, I would date chicks with kids.
Speaker 1 Definitely not always the kids.
Speaker 1 That means they had to go.
Speaker 1 Means they had to eventually. You can't leave that little four-year-old.
Speaker 1 yeah you got to do something now god damn it man attire um all right it's time for my favorite part of the show prizes
Speaker 1 look at the motor look at you look at the pot or the mutt
Speaker 1 stop playing with her stop playing with demona i guess go ahead hit your little ribbon in the sky for the out there that's single and looking to holler
Speaker 1 They got you on Reddit, Papa,
Speaker 1
tune it up. You know what? Oh, I've seen that.
Bro, I've seen it too. Listen to y'all.
Listen, y'all what up tune it up
Speaker 1 they got you around
Speaker 1 no ass that's cool but nah but when you hold up hold up you mute up don't sell yourself short Some of them girls out there without ads, when y'all pop it a certain way, y'all got enough hips to fake it.
Speaker 1 Y'all got that little deceiving shit.
Speaker 1
Don't put yourself short. It shook.
Something was happening back there. I mean, I left because I was appalling.
Speaker 1 An employee was behaving that way.
Speaker 2 First of all,
Speaker 2
I'm not in that group of women that don't have ass. I lost my ass.
I've had an ass before, so I know the glory of having ass.
Speaker 1
It got locked up, like an accident. Oh, wait, and we got to big up the fat bitches that got small, so they got that excess weight down there.
That's what's shaking. Yeah.
Please.
Speaker 1 Please. I'll stop.
Speaker 1 And they still feel like a fat person inside, so you could just slut them out.
Speaker 1 You could just
Speaker 1 go crazy on them.
Speaker 1 So crazy.
Speaker 2
No, but y'all talking about the booty shaking one they put in there. That's not the one that shook the table.
These niggas filmed a visit picture with me and my father when I was in the Feds.
Speaker 1 They posted that. Oh.
Speaker 2 All the comments say, I knew she was a stud.
Speaker 1
I told y'all. You did look like a stud that bad.
That's going to lie. But this is the thing.
Speaker 1 I don't know if people know that. You see what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 2 The guy that I'm with is my father. He would be so upset if his picture was online, if he knew his picture was online.
Speaker 2 And secondly, I don't know if y'all know, but in jail, we all have to wear the same thing.
Speaker 1 Mona, it's okay, baby.
Speaker 2
The fuck? And this is the best. It's a big word, though.
It was a keymore. I just tied it up because my clip, I lost my clip.
So it was like this in the front of me, but I had to tie it up.
Speaker 1 Oh, man. I was going to set it off.
Speaker 2 Yeah, real street niggas know where I'm at because that little thing in the back, that's the federal visit room.
Speaker 1
And orange is the new black. Whatever.
For real.
Speaker 2
But y'all, mother, y'all are like the FBI, man. Y'all scaring a bitch.
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1
That shit is. Oh, yeah.
If you don't know about this audience, that is one thing that they will do is dig up everything in the world and insert their nose in all the business that's not theirs. Wow.
Speaker 1
That's what they'll do. That's it too.
So get used to it, Potter of the Month. Yeah.
Yeah. Heavy as the head.
Boy.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 Yep. And if you wouldn't have tucked the, if you wouldn't have had the shirt out like on some Mary Kingstown shit.
Speaker 2 We weren't allowed to tuck our shirts. You had to wear them out.
Speaker 2 You had to wear your clothes a certain way in jail, guys.
Speaker 1 Or you could be free. There's other reasons to be free.
Speaker 1 Like girls that have been to jail.
Speaker 2 You know what they're saying? It was 50 years ago, guys.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1 make some noise for turning your life around. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I really did turn my life around. And I'm proud.
I'm a little bit more. You got it together, goddammit.
All right. Prize picks.
I'm sure some of you out there are asking, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1 Well, this episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on Prize Picks, being right can get you paid.
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Speaker 1 ish picks ish i don't know man i see kenneth walker's name down here he's been looking ill he's been looking yucky keep going All right, ish says Christian Kirk for more than 25 receiving yards.
Speaker 1 Kenneth Walker for more than 52 rushing yards. Pat Freermoth.
Speaker 1
My man, too. Friar Muth.
Friar Muth for more than 18 receiving yards. Oh, yeah.
And Jameer Gibbs for more than 21 and a half receiving yards.
Speaker 1 I'm going to go ahead and tell you to add Puka for anything he feels like doing on a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1
Anything he feels like doing, put him down. Put Jonathan Taylor down for anything he feels like doing.
I'm riding it, Pause. Double it, whatever he doing.
Speaker 1
They play the Steelers this weekend. He's going to be.
Yeah, whatever he makes his mind up to do. I'm totally fine with that.
Also, Buffalo has Kansas City this weekend, so give me Rashi Rice.
Speaker 1 Give me Rashi Rice for anything he feels like doing on that beautiful, beautiful Sunday afternoon. What?
Speaker 1 What happened? No.
Speaker 1 Yo, Zaire hit me Monday morning and said, yo, you know what week it is?
Speaker 1 Shut up, Zaire. Shout out to Zaire and the Colts.
Speaker 1
JT, who's on my fantasy team. Danny Dimes.
Shout out to all of them. Josh Downs.
Speaker 1
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Shout out to all of them. Tyrese Halliburton.
The whole fucking indie. Shout out them.
Shout out each and every one of them.
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Speaker 1 Yeah, Shannon Shaw can't fuck with me.
Speaker 1 He can't fuck with me.
Speaker 1
It's Ad Wars, nigga. It's Ad Wars.
Yo,
Speaker 1 they got early payout on Prospects now, too.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, that means you getting it like that? No, like if you up, like if you got a pick a five pick and three of your dudes hit or four of your dudes hit, let's say the maximum payout is $600.
Speaker 1
An early payout means four of your dudes hit, they'll offer you like $450. 350.
Oh, that's fire.
Speaker 1
That's dope. That's fire.
That's fire, buddy. That is fire.
Saw that last night. Welcome to the pod-ish.
Welcome, ish. Thank you, sir.
Good to see you, man. I feel glad to be here.
I'm cool.
Speaker 1 I'm glad you dressed up, feeling festive.
Speaker 1 It's a drug dealer. Okay.
Speaker 1 He's drunk.
Speaker 1 Nigga pulled out the Jabots.
Speaker 1 Nigga pulled out the Jabots.
Speaker 1
He pulled out the Jabots. Yeah, no.
And matched him with the Travis's. You got something going on right there.
What's going on this evening? What is wrong with you? What's going on?
Speaker 1
You know he's outside. Take a little sip of some TRO.
I'm not going outside. I know.
No, I know. I'm going home to my three-year-old.
I understand. It's all right.
It's cool.
Speaker 1 Ish, I have a question for you. And while I do want to make jokes about it, I also want to have a serious talk about it because I'm a musician.
Speaker 1 Were you aware that your sleeper was AI?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 I was driving, and that sleeper just came up.
Speaker 1 on
Speaker 1
okay music. Does it matter? That's the question.
That's the question. I don't think it matters because so many niggas been in my DMs.
Like, yo, I don't know where you found that shit.
Speaker 1
That shit is amazing. That's scary, actually.
Did you have that many niggas in your DMs?
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1
I'm sure you do as well. I don't know.
I'm not. It's cool, dog.
You're right. Paying their phone bill.
Speaker 1
All right, so your answer is no, not really. I ain't you.
Yeah, I ain't no. No, not that question.
Speaker 1 Does it matter part?
Speaker 1 Anybody could get duped.
Speaker 1 While that song was on, though, I did say this sounds like somebody I know. It sounded like
Speaker 1
the dude part in the beginning to me, when I first heard it, sounded like Imani. For real, for real.
And then the girl sounded like
Speaker 1 I just thought about it yesterday. But the girl sounded like somebody else that I was familiar with their voice.
Speaker 1
See, this is why I keep certain walls up to make sure certain things don't easily penetrate. One pause.
That was crazy.
Speaker 1 But carry on. Them niggas be be beating your walls up.
Speaker 1 He tried to keep them up. Oh.
Speaker 1 They be hitting on the angle.
Speaker 1
Oh, you need the angle to hit it hard? My shit hooked to the left arm. Oh, you need the angle.
Yo, man.
Speaker 1 I don't need to go to angle. It's all right, dog.
Speaker 1 Can he do the classic in Blue?
Speaker 1 Yo, we're going to throw up. I'm good.
Speaker 2 I'm so happy with somebody else.
Speaker 1 Usually that's me.
Speaker 1 He's going to be in the classic.
Speaker 1
We got to go to the class. I've been there.
I'm good.
Speaker 1 It matters to me. Which part, though?
Speaker 1 You have to be alive first.
Speaker 1
The bar is in hell now. But for me, for me only, I'm not telling nobody else what to do.
I do think that there will be a time where everyone has to adapt to how AI is involved in music.
Speaker 1 I'm not being a dinosaur with this.
Speaker 1 2025, I'm not.
Speaker 1
There's enough humans. Yes.
There's enough humans. I agree.
And if I could tell, because some of these AI records, records I can tell the humans that it's modeled after.
Speaker 1
If I could tell, then I'd rather go to the human. That's like, you know, I'm a dinosaur.
I buy music still.
Speaker 1
So I'm a few generations back with how I'm rebelling against the cause. This is all new territory.
But Ish played that record. And I ain't going to sit there and lie to you.
Speaker 1
That was a really good record. That shit was amazing.
That was a really good song. So my thinking says, you could have given that to a human because I know how the music business works.
Speaker 1
Somebody had that good ass song. Somebody wrote that song.
If you said you know how the music business works. You see why they're not giving it to you.
Speaker 1
You see why the fuck they not giving it to nobody. Yo, niggas been hitting me like, yo, that shit is fire.
I had that shit on repeat in my car all day.
Speaker 1 So why the fuck, if the music business can create that without human beings that they don't have to pay and they don't have to contend with, why would they not keep putting that out? No.
Speaker 1
It's all about profitability. They would keep putting it out.
I'm on the side of artists. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm on the side of artists' rights.
Speaker 1 I'm on the side of artists getting a coin and being able to travel. Remember, I came in here one day and thought that four backs was fucking AI was bullshit.
Speaker 1
I didn't really think that because I know Larry Jackson. But I was just playing around.
I was like, I need to see you perform the record that I love.
Speaker 1 This pandemonium that's going on, Wu-Tang touring, fucking every old act touring, selling out 50 Cent touring, Young Boy touring.
Speaker 1 The artists from since the beginning of the time, that's how they got their coin.
Speaker 1 So you're taking these dope songs, you're giving it to whoever, or you having an AI model it after somebody that's alive. It's just new age robbery and new age.
Speaker 1 I can't comfortably support it.
Speaker 1
I went to the niggas Instagram page. Your Instagram page looked like a stupid ass AI Instagram page.
I can't do it.
Speaker 1
Then I fucking up, then I looked at the, because I bought the song when you played it. Now I look at the cover.
Oh.
Speaker 1 Y'all
Speaker 1
have two stupid AI pictures on that. Like, I'm not there yet.
Right, right. And I know, I see so many people have a problem with what Timberland is doing.
Speaker 1
But because Ish brought that in this room, I thought it was like, okay, now we can have a different talk. Yeah, we could.
Because that's why Timberland is doing it for the people.
Speaker 1
It's too dangerous. You know what I mean? He's doing it to get ahead of this shit because he's like, it's inevitable.
Exactly.
Speaker 2
It's too dangerous. Like, especially when you say it sounds like E-Me and E.
That's exactly why it's too dangerous.
Speaker 2 People that are not necessarily well, like super well-known all over, where we could pinpoint it because we know what he sounds like, but other people can't.
Speaker 2 can't imagine being somebody somewhere and you working for years and doing all this shit then you hear this shit you know it sounds like you know they did they you know it has something to do with you you can't even prove it it's too dangerous to with i don't even want to support no
Speaker 1 i can't support the human artists
Speaker 1 and right like i'd be talking to these people in the street that with around with this text they're like yo hey asia look at asia here what's up asia
Speaker 1 they'd be like yo you trying your whole life it takes your whole life to come up with a hit song
Speaker 1 a hit song gonna feed a million families once you catch one all your energy sometimes is going into let me catch a record that's gonna feed all of our families.
Speaker 1 The AI come and gets to be Rihanna, Beyonce, Beethoven, Jimi Hendrix. Like,
Speaker 1 no, you can't do that to the field.
Speaker 1 You can't do that to the field. You better get
Speaker 1
the last two weeks or so. Niggas been like teaching me this chat GPT shit.
I ain't know nothing of y'all know I ain't the techie nigga.
Speaker 1 But the free version, nigga like, yo, you got to go buy the other
Speaker 1 version. They said, yo, when you get the paid version, the shit will start to learn you and start conversing back with you in your slang and all of that.
Speaker 1
So if you start talking about somebody wrote that song, somebody might not have written that song. Chat GPT might have written that song.
But then somebody wrote that song. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 If Chat GPT wrote the song,
Speaker 1
then somebody wrote the song. Some people wrote it.
And people from here, here, here, and here. And that is an issue for me.
And that's an issue for me. No, you're right.
Speaker 1
I saw Ian the other day tweeting. He bought the fucking robot, whatever the little $20,000 robot humanoid helper is.
And he was super excited on the phone. He was like, I bought you one too.
Speaker 1
It's like, there goes that cultural difference shit again. Just popping in.
I'm with it, but I mean, I've seen enough movies to know that this nigga will kill me in my sleep.
Speaker 1
He for sure is going to kill me. Or go in my phone and tell my girl what's in there.
Like, he ain't going to just vibe with what I want him to do. Right.
Speaker 1
Anyways. This man is crazy.
Yeah. You really bought that robot? Yeah.
Ian bought that. He was serious.
He bought it. I saw it on Twitter, but I know he...
Speaker 1 And then sent me the ad.
Speaker 2 Keep that damn thing away from the baby.
Speaker 1
And the ad looks like. I put my deposit there.
You did? You did? For real?
Speaker 2 Y'all a different type of niggas. There's nothing about me that wants to be around a robot.
Speaker 1 I'm going to do a broken purchase.
Speaker 1
You can do the subscription. Oh, you did the layaway shit.
Yeah, I did the layaway shit. I ain't got the 20 to just drop up there.
Speaker 2 Like my brain.
Speaker 1 Oh, you can come to me party. We got this Thursday part coming talking.
Speaker 2 The way my brain works, if some country wants to do some shit to us, they fucking tap into the robots. That's the first line of the attack.
Speaker 1 Not even some country. Yeah, well, you know, I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 to, yeah, yeah, but no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 I just, I, I don't want to be a dinosaur either, but it's like even with chat GBC, when you say they learn you and they talk to you, I remember the case of a little boy that was talking to the chat BGBC and then he committed suicide because he goes the family is saying that they the chat GBC coached him, yeah, but that's the thing about a robot that doesn't have any kind of
Speaker 1 people are developing um these dependencies on the AI assistants, like
Speaker 1 and yeah, they're coaching them into
Speaker 1
suicides. Like, there's a whole class action lawsuit.
I was talking to Selehi on the phone the other day, and he was just like, yo, type this in, type that in.
Speaker 1 Then he's like, yo, dog, the shit, the more you talk to, because you can start physically just talking to him. He said, yo, the shit will start replying to you.
Speaker 1
Like, nigga said they put relationship advice in the chat GPT. My daughter, you was using it.
What? And I had to tell her to stop. Oh, this is ridiculous.
Nigga said, yo, download your text thread.
Speaker 1 If you're arguing with your girl, just download the text thread in the chat GPT.
Speaker 1 it'll advise you on how to apologize to your girl or how to make up with your girl now we gotta figure out these niggas is using chat gbt to talk to yeah you know that ain't say that fly shit on his own exactly he's dumb now jail writing letters to your bitch
Speaker 2 everybody got the same letter yo that's crazy son that's some scary yeah but that's dude because like you're eventually gonna have to talk to her like a person right or not and then it's my thing is because i don't want to be a dinosaur but then i don't agree with that so where's the happy medium where i'm not all the way out of the loop?
Speaker 2 You know what I mean? I just don't, I don't know the AI shit.
Speaker 2 I don't know why any human support it because in every way they seeping into the game where they're going, they can replace us and make money.
Speaker 1 What's funny?
Speaker 1 I was we were talking about this at the at the bar the other night and and Rem and my friend Jeremy were talking about how their kids are in school and like the kids will use AI as a diss.
Speaker 1
Like they'll be like, that shit is some AI shit. Like someone comes in with too much makeup and they go, you look AI.
Oh shit. Test is too hard.
That test is AI. Oh.
Speaker 1
I was like, so the kids was on some fuck that shit. Which I thought was dope.
Unless they do their homework with it.
Speaker 1 My only experience using Chat GPT is maybe two years ago or a year ago, Mother's Day, where I hit her and said, Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 1
Baby, I love you, or whatever it was. That was dry to her, and she cursed me out.
I'm like, that's all you got to say to me on Mother's Day, you motherfucker.
Speaker 1 I said, all right.
Speaker 1
Chat GPT, hook me up. Give me a long loving message for a moment with three kids.
Oh, that's them captions you be writing that be fly.
Speaker 1
I thought that came from rapper brain. No, I write my own Instagram captions.
Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 I thought that was a real text. Yo, this nigga told on itself.
Speaker 2 Your shit be flying. His captions be lit.
Speaker 1 I didn't know that. I write.
Speaker 1 I write my Instagram captions.
Speaker 1 I ain't Mark. Anytime Mark starts talking about his boundless love, I'm like, all right.
Speaker 1 That's just hate. That's just hate.
Speaker 1
Mark be hitting it with that boundless love shit. I like that.
I like that. You soaked that shit.
Speaker 1 I got to go to your page and read what you be saying to your girl nothing nothing publicly nothing publicly no not even on like birthdays holidays no his page is all business he just on homes for rent
Speaker 1 on that muslim super private i'm talking to my barber the other morning you know not even my slow my he yes you are he's he's part of the nation he is like a lot of people in my life are so i like talking to him like to learn and
Speaker 1 so he ain't taught you not to eat pork yet
Speaker 1 what learning you doing he don't don't play that pork shit. Yeah, don't say.
Speaker 1
You can't buy it, put it in his house. Nothing.
You can't look at it and super. He don't play that pork shit.
So that's for him and his girl. Shout out to Mill.
But anyway,
Speaker 1 he was like, yo, in our culture,
Speaker 1 our wives, our women,
Speaker 1 you can't hug them.
Speaker 1
I said, for real. I always act like he said like some.
You can't shake their hand.
Speaker 1 I said, for real.
Speaker 1 He said, yeah, it's disrespectful. I said,
Speaker 1 how you say hi to them?
Speaker 1 He said, I'm from Hamalakum. Yeah, you can't fucking talk about it.
Speaker 1 Like, some people, some people,
Speaker 1
some people. Yo, I feel I'm a lake.
And that's the end. Yo, if you're as married, you'll shake a man's hand.
Speaker 2
No, you don't shake no man. We also taught to lower our gaze.
I mean, I'm not in FOI, but we have similarities.
Speaker 1 You and Mark and Ish, y'all, are trying to turn this podcast a different way.
Speaker 1 None at all.
Speaker 2 When I say lower your gaze, you're not supposed to make eye contact but for and i know you know but you're not supposed to really make eye contact but there's no like male besties you know what i mean or like so the only really a muslim woman is only supposed to be like with her brother or her uncle and that's the same people you could take your overgarment off in front of too okay so we are muslim
Speaker 1 that's all she could be with too
Speaker 2 i know a lot of guys that are not muslim but they admire the way the marriage works and they kind of like try to emulate that to a certain extent. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
They're more liberal and progressive on that stuff. True.
You know what I mean? They don't care. True.
Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Just like you see Muslim women that don't cover no more.
Speaker 1 You're just trying to justify eating them ham sandwiches. That's your man right here.
Speaker 1 I know that. My bad.
Speaker 1 My little more liberal.
Speaker 1 I was talking about more about the wife and the girls and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 No, I know.
Speaker 1 I don't. I don't judge people that do, but I don't.
Speaker 2
And even if people are more liberal, still, there is like masjid etiquette. So in the mass jit, you're still not doing that.
Yeah, like,
Speaker 1 if i go out and travel and i see people i don't try to hug their wives i don't even i i i don't shake hands when i accept the word i just do this you know what i mean and just keep it moving because i respect their rules you know i mean or how they move and unless they initiate a hug i don't i don't go near it
Speaker 1 let's revisit this if mom donny wins
Speaker 1 when mom donny wins if mom domini wins shit might change but if cuomo wins then let's cater this i'm glad you mentioned muscle let's cater the talk
Speaker 1 i was the other day and i made me think about what you were talking about about outing people and you were like you don't believe in pulling people out the closet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Is that like a uniform? Is that like 100%? Or are there times where you feel like people deserve it?
Speaker 1
Are you asking me? I'm asking Joe Budden. There's never a time where I feel like someone deserves that.
Okay.
Speaker 1 Is there a time where someone deserves? I'm starting to think there is. Oh, I'd love to hear this.
Speaker 1 Outing them as far as what?
Speaker 1 Telling the world. Sexuality? Yeah.
Speaker 1 If you're about to start telling me about a criminal, then I'm not.
Speaker 1
I wasn't. Nothing criminal.
Nothing criminal. Okay.
My beliefs are not based on. No,
Speaker 1 I ain't tripping. No, not that at all.
Speaker 1 I feel like you have a right to privacy unless you're publicly attacking people for the thing that you are.
Speaker 1
That's when I start to feel a little different about it. And people love to do that.
For example,
Speaker 1 I was...
Speaker 1
I got to tell the story about. I was walking through.
I told you all the part of the story before. I was walking through Newark.
Speaker 1 And what you looking like that for? I'm waiting here to listen.
Speaker 1 The joke ain't on Newark.
Speaker 1
But they had a gay pride. But it could be.
I mean,
Speaker 1 there is a gay pride festival there.
Speaker 1 Me and my wife were, my wife lived in,
Speaker 1
was it Brickyard? No, not Brickyard. Ironbound.
And so we were.
Speaker 1 And so to get to her crib, we cut through.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And I saw this dude there. He's a very prominent Muslim.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
He wasn't praying in this festival. Is he in politics? No.
Okay. Let's just say he was lowering his gaze.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit. he was.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 I'm at the edge of my seat, bro. I want to go.
Speaker 1 And I have seen his Facebook rants about homosexuality being evil and wrong, and they're going to hell, and people, you know, disrespecting the community and ruining our families and all this shit.
Speaker 1
And then I see him there. And he looked different than he be looking on the internet.
He looked different than he looks in the mosque. I bet.
Yeah. What did he say? Sasha.
Speaker 1 I've never seen seen anything. And he's at a pride.
Speaker 1 It was the pride that
Speaker 1 has a nod it up joint.
Speaker 1
So, yo, you're a fool. And we, me and my wife was like, Is that we'll call him Jamal.
His name is not Jamal. I said, Is that Jamal? She's like, That's motherfucking Jamal.
Speaker 1 And he tried to act like he didn't see me. So, as a dignified, respectable person who believes in people's having space, their own space, and their own dignity, I was like,
Speaker 1 Jamal!
Speaker 1 J money!
Speaker 1 Yo,
Speaker 1
And when I tell you, Jabal, hard ass. That's my mouse.
You could bought it for a quarter, right? So, you go what? You could have bought it for a quarter. You know what it is?
Speaker 1
It's a country expression. I've heard it before.
Yeah. Are you from Virginia? You know this? He's not up.
We don't really know his background.
Speaker 1 He changes shit up depending on who he lives.
Speaker 2 I never heard it either, though.
Speaker 1
So he comes over nervous, shaking, looking, you know what I mean? Now, he's talking shit about me in the past before, too. But on this day, he was my best friend.
Of course.
Speaker 1 Hugs, how you doing, a lot of family? You need anything? No. So we leave.
Speaker 1 And then the next day, he's back on his rants again.
Speaker 1 Okay. Maybe even,
Speaker 1 I might be reading into it, but it felt like even more than before.
Speaker 1
But definitely, it was a lot, what he was saying. The same shit.
And apropos of nothing. At that moment, I would not out him.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 I don't feel guilty if somebody do.
Speaker 1 And if I was one of them people in the festival frolicking with him and I saw his page,
Speaker 1 you would be offended.
Speaker 1 I could understand why they might want to. Agree, yeah.
Speaker 1
That's all. Yo, I was watching, you know, I don't watch that shit that y'all be watching.
The docs and shit.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1
it was. Nah, nah, nah.
I picked the biggest genre. You know, I'll be watching it.
Yo, my girl. Entertainment.
Speaker 1 My girl had
Speaker 1 one of them shits.
Speaker 1
What's the one y'all just was talking about? Gacy? Yeah. Gayley.
Gacy.
Speaker 1 They were talking about that a lot of those people be homosexual. Yeah, who's supposed to talk about that? And they said that it's some psychiatry,
Speaker 1 some psychosis shit where they look at other gay people like
Speaker 1
they're not gay. The gay people are like evil or crooks or some shit.
They was just breaking down the psychology of it, and it kind of was like, wow.
Speaker 2 So that might be self-hatred.
Speaker 1 And it might tie into what you're talking about. Like, yo, this dude is going out and ranting, going crazy, but low-key, he get busy.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and people, and people a lot of times double down on that shit because they feel like.
Speaker 1 I know. I was like, that's it.
Speaker 1 And you see it all the time with politicians. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1 busy? Get caught. Yeah,
Speaker 1 they get caught getting busy. And those be the ones that are making laws against shit that they've been doing.
Speaker 1
I mean, shit, we see it in hip-hop. Exactly.
NBA Youngboy's mom right now is saying that homeboy is in the closet. That's why you're mad.
And that's why yada yada. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 Back and forth, but she's saying that now. For me, I understand that the same way you allow people to live in their truths, you allow people to to live in their deception.
Speaker 1 Like,
Speaker 1 if you are not a criminal, it is not, oh, I'm just, I'm talking about me. I'm not mad at y'all way of thinking, but
Speaker 1 no matter what you're saying, I'm not going to be the person to do that to you. Because what you're doing, even though it's wrong,
Speaker 1 the greater cause for me are just how many people from that community end up killing themselves or harming themselves from being outed, having to have conversation with their family that hate gay people.
Speaker 1 It's too much at risk for me to just say, oh, you a dick? Oh, you a dick.
Speaker 1
But stay there. I'm not.
I care. Based on those rants, though, a lot of people are still committing suicide and fear and shame.
And you know what I mean? And all that other stuff.
Speaker 1 Because you ranting and you embarrassing them and you tormenting them verbally online. That same result could be the thing.
Speaker 1 I think most of America projects shit that they have a problem with onto other people.
Speaker 1 I don't think that's just a uniquely gay or LGBTQ thing.
Speaker 2
But I also think that it's different. And I feel like gay people have been experiencing that forever.
It makes me think of back when the AIDS epidemic first started.
Speaker 2 The mayor back then, Kach is a known homosexual. And you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 It's like,
Speaker 2 I think that that's something that gay people experience. And I also think it's a difference when you're outed by somebody that's in your community.
Speaker 2 So I feel like it depends on who's doing the outing and how it's done.
Speaker 2 Because if it's done by, you just said this and this is fucked up and this got this many views and I just seen you at this festival with fucking wings on.
Speaker 2 you had wings on and a thong fuck that bitch but i think it would be accepted better if it was done by gay people even though it's still not right i agree with yo it's not right i don't even not even as far as the suicide and all that it's just wrong it's not your business to tell but a lot of times people hate that part of them so they just project real bad and it's that's the psychology part just like the serial killers that'll be gay as shit and they get into this gay stuff almost like have gay sex and then murder the guy right after the gay sex you know what i mean yeah it's a hate for what i'm doing what i like what i'm attracted to But yeah.
Speaker 1
And that's the thing. And of course, Jamal might say, yeah, I'm secretly doing this.
I still think it's wrong. You know what I mean? Don't listen to what I'm, don't follow what I'm doing.
Speaker 1
Follow what I'm saying. I'm saying the right thing, even if I fall short.
And that might be what they say. That's what the Republicans often say.
I'm a sinner too, but still, it's still wrong.
Speaker 1 I don't take that position.
Speaker 1 It's different.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1
with a topic like that, there's no right or wrong. Right.
You get what I'm saying? But their position is that it is.
Speaker 1
They're saying it's, you know, like, it's objectively wrong, and y'all going to hell. And I'm trying to save y'all.
And that's the shit I hate about it. Is that y'all so stridently?
Speaker 1 Save yourself, my name. For me,
Speaker 1
what you're saying happens. So I'm not trying to invalidate that experience.
What I know to be much more common are gay people being treated a certain way just for existing. Yes.
Speaker 1
Right. And, you know, my point is, because I agree with that.
I guess it's just, I feel like people like that, Jamal, again, not his real name, y'all.
Speaker 1 I feel like Jamal is one of the people making gay people feel bad for existing. But if you are gay.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but if niggas want to treat Jamal, if niggas want to bend the rules for Jamal, then go ahead and handle Jamal a certain way. Like,
Speaker 1
I'm just saying my blanket LGBT, I'm not, I'm against it. Yeah, I'm against outing a Jamal.
I wouldn't even out Jamal. I didn't out Jamal, right? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 And it's not my business, not my place. But Jamal seen you in the pants and was like, you know what?
Speaker 1 And he had this. We got a secret together.
Speaker 2 You didn't out him, but you just did you see?
Speaker 1 He fake cutting through. No,
Speaker 1 I'm not on that. Like, again, like, I could see that, I hated, I hated, although I think he's an asshole.
Speaker 1 I hated the shame that I saw on his face and the guilt I saw on his face when I bumped into him.
Speaker 1 And I said, I hate that the world is such a way that he has to feel this and that he can't be whoever he's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 But the sympathy that I had for him was gone the next day when I see him back on Facebook, making a whole generation of young gay people feel like that.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm just saying I'm not, that's, that's me. I'm not telling nobody else how to live.
Just my own views with the shit. Like,
Speaker 1
that's it. Yeah, I respect that about you, too.
I also respect the fact that... When people do shoot at you, even we joke up here all the time, but I'm talking about like out in the world.
Speaker 1
That shit bounces off. You actually don't care.
You're one of the few people.
Speaker 1 You know, people, you know, we were talking about earlier about offset when people like say they care but don't, you know what I mean, or say they don't care but do, but really care.
Speaker 1
You really don't give a fuck. Yeah, no.
I respect that. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2
I'm inspired to get to the level of Joe Button not giving a fuck. Let me finish.
Let me fix something that I said because I do that often.
Speaker 2 When I said that gay people have been experiencing that forever, the first thing I think about is the AIDS epidemic and the mayor being a known person in the bathhouses getting, you know, getting down.
Speaker 2 People were begging for attention because all these people were dying from this disease that they call gay. So it was like this horrible epidemic, and everybody's friends is dying.
Speaker 2 And the mayor is a known homosexual, and we're not getting no type of attention, and people are dying. That's what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1
That makes sense. Got it.
Got it.
Speaker 1
You're old as hell. Come on, man.
That was, I wasn't born.
Speaker 1 I wasn't born.
Speaker 2 I like documentaries, though.
Speaker 1 You're old as hell.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I wasn't born when he was the mayor.
Speaker 1 Who cares that? No, and more music. Who cares that there are no rap songs in the top 40 for the first time since 95?
Speaker 1
Not me, really. Not me, really.
They're making a big fuss of this online. That's interesting to me.
They're pulling up a whole list of classic hip-hop records that never made the Billboard top 40.
Speaker 1
It's sparking a lot of conversation. It is also.
It is. It's interesting for sure.
But then they also changed some rules that make it exactly. That's what I thought about shit.
Speaker 1 There was 15 Taylor Swift records from her new album in the top 10. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
This is the game. They're going to tweak the rules, and this is the result of it.
And the payload. They're legit.
Speaker 1
And the money. I mean, there's a lot.
To me, the system is always rigged when you talk about rankings. So I don't care.
Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 1 What I think is interesting is less that there's no rap songs, top 40, but just how much good music has come out this year.
Speaker 1 So what I think about nothing being in the top 40, but these amazing projects being out right now,
Speaker 1 it makes me not give.
Speaker 1 It says more about billboard than it does about rap to me.
Speaker 1 It further cements that for you. I felt like I should have seen more people echoing my sentiments, which was I was happy about it.
Speaker 1 Why? It was celebratory time to me for all the reasons you just said.
Speaker 1 If we, and respect the Billboard, I just left there two weeks ago, so I mean, I don't want to sully my relationship.
Speaker 1 That relationship, man.
Speaker 1 I know good people that work at Billboard and fucking variety, which we'll get to in a little bit of time. And I know good people over there.
Speaker 1 My views are my views, which are: Billboard is a fixed system
Speaker 1 with their own rules
Speaker 1 that they change whenever they want
Speaker 1 and they work in conjunction with
Speaker 1 all of the other
Speaker 1 labels,
Speaker 1
the streamers, they just work in conjunction with. So, if I'm not saying any artists, then number one, I think that more artists have taken control of their brand.
Right. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 That's true. I think that
Speaker 1 more artists are recognizing their brand power and utilizing it in ways that circumvent some of these fixed infrastructures that you can't do nothing with.
Speaker 1 A lot of these artists are popping without label support,
Speaker 1 how you consume music now, right? Billboard don't account for, and that's the problem with Billboard. Billboard accounts for what they account for.
Speaker 1
And we'd have to look it up for me to know because I'm a dinosaur. I'm far removed.
But they're not accounting for impressions. Right.
They're not accounting for engagement.
Speaker 1 They have a chart for that, but it's not the chart that we're talking about.
Speaker 1 It don't add up enough to change what they do in their fixed.
Speaker 1
Like, I don't know about TikTok and Billboard. I don't know.
But if TikTok and Billboard are not seeing eye to eye, it's because they in the back room are not seeing eye to eye.
Speaker 1
The same with YouTube and fucking Disney. Like it's business at play.
Or they haven't come around yet. They're not going to come around.
Speaker 1 It's business.
Speaker 1 They're not going to come around. You go get it how you live it outside of us if you're not willing to to play by our rules.
Speaker 1 So I was hopeful and happy that more people are fucking finding alternate means.
Speaker 1 I also just think that there hasn't been much mainstream hip-hop from the big dogs that we usually see in the top 40 released recently.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 it's kind of a non-issue in that terms to me. If we were getting Kendrick and Cole and
Speaker 1 Drake and any of the Travis, whoever, Kanye, if he was still in the system
Speaker 1
having releases and they weren't showing up, that might be a different conversation. All of them niggas is the problem.
I agree with what Parks is saying. We ain't had them, so they not there.
Speaker 1 They all the problem. Travis,
Speaker 1 all of these niggas that dominate, the rappers
Speaker 1
that dominate the billboard, the six of you. Right.
Right? Because this problem existed before this happened. Right.
Where it was six of y'all. It was covered up by them six, right?
Speaker 1 So yeah, if you're getting your hip-hop news from Billboard, then you probably only know seven rappers all together.
Speaker 1 But, nah, that
Speaker 1 and back to the point: Luther would still be there, but it's still only one song. Right, but I'm just saying what ruth was there.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they changed the rules and they said the Luther would still be there, but it's still only one out of four.
Speaker 1 But I'm saying, but that one, that one song not being there now makes it a thing, right? Dog, outside of Kendrick and Drake, all of y'all need to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1 Outside of Kendrick and Drake and future, maybe.
Speaker 1
Travis, I'm done with you. Uzi, I'm done.
All of these other fucking label darlings. Anytime you other niggas pop up there, I assume it's because the label made sure you popped up there.
Speaker 1
That is a fact. Yeah.
I'm not putting it on your fucking star power or ability to appeal to an audience no more. That go for three fucking people.
So if y'all are happy with that,
Speaker 1
then have at it. But don't front like you mad and disappointed now because there's no rappers there.
Real hip-hop wasn't getting their hip-hop views from Billboard.
Speaker 1 You was getting it from somewhere else, outside somewhere. Go outside and see what's going on.
Speaker 1
In fact, look for people that weren't on Billboard to find out. You know what I mean? Like, that was at one point in time.
That was a market against a rapper.
Speaker 1 Even this whole thing, and this is my thing with the power of rap.
Speaker 1 Even this is just a commercial for Billboard. Or
Speaker 1
Jay-Z bar for everything. We was praising Billboard when we were young.
Now I look at Billboard like, is you dumb? Like, we don't care. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Billboard is for those who play the game. That was fly ice.
That's it. There's a hole bar for everything that happens.
It is. Ever.
It is. There's always a hove bar.
Speaker 2 Niggas quote hove bars more than they quote Martin.
Speaker 1 But yeah, like, it's for them who play the game.
Speaker 1
And a lot of people are now finding success outside of the game. Yeah, you're not going to see success on Billboard.
Great. Like Joe said, we hear that.
Awesome.
Speaker 1 Hey, let's continue to lay the blueprint for how future artists may be able to earn an income without having to rely on some of these fixed systems.
Speaker 1 I think that that's reason to celebrate. Well, you can, at least, because
Speaker 1
the second too many of y'all do it, here they come to take it over there. Nah, yo, dog, you can do it, nigga.
These are, you can go make millions of dollars and not be on Billboard at all.
Speaker 1
No, no, I'm not saying billboard. I'm talking about the higher, the label games.
Like, the second y'all find, too many of y'all find a way to make money over here, it's a cat and mouse game.
Speaker 1
You get ahead, they catch it. Now y'all got to make another way, they catch it.
Well, the music business is reactionary, and that's a great point.
Speaker 1 Why are we even have, why does what's happening with Billboard even make us have a conversation about rap versus having a conversation about record labels? All them niggas is fucked up. There you go.
Speaker 1
Hey, you're not seeing nothing in Billboard because they all in a disarray. Yeah.
Some of them are moving. Some of them are dropping people.
I'm still waiting on the Jack Harlow record.
Speaker 1 They still keep giving me fucking Tommy Richmond songs. Like, I'm still waiting on the recording.
Speaker 1 None of these labels know what they're doing. Not one of them.
Speaker 1 If you see an artist out there that's moving like the label know what they're doing, it's because the artists know what they're doing and got a good fucking person or team behind them.
Speaker 1 The labels have got rid of all influential people that care about this shit, passionate about this shit, know about this shit.
Speaker 1 It's a bunch of fucking suits and numbers and tech people and we look into tech places to tell us about music.
Speaker 1
I'm not built like that. Never.
No. Sorry.
I don't care what the algorithm says to me neither.
Speaker 1 Never have. Never algorithm.
Speaker 1 Let me just not even play that was advocate because I agree with everything that's been said, but the dominant music journalist account of this, the narrative at least, is that this,
Speaker 1 even if all of what you all are saying is true, that there's still something to be said about the lack of engagement with mainstream rap music right now, that rap music is less popular with mainstream America than before.
Speaker 1 Is there any truth to that? Well, a lot of it sucks.
Speaker 1 Mainstream rap.
Speaker 1
I just, I think some of them got that spirit. A lot of the mainstream artists talking in one part.
A lot of the mainstream artists ain't out.
Speaker 1
Like, we can say whatever we want. My nigga Drake is straight.
That's all I'm about to say. Like, yo, dog, niggas want to not give him his props.
That nigga moves the needle in culture and in music.
Speaker 1 And so the fact that he hasn't put out anything or anything quality in a long time, that is a testament to it. And back to what I said about him.
Speaker 1
He's going to have a hard time just because you can't sue people and not have a hard time. And think they're going to fuck up.
He's going to have a harder time.
Speaker 1 So hip-hop has gone through some things.
Speaker 1
What you're saying is true, but it's true for many reasons. Right.
It's true for many reasons. These niggas suck.
Speaker 1 Nobody's innovative, right?
Speaker 1 Like, it's a breath of fresh air when you see somebody do something new yeah the hip-hop I come from everybody did something new that was the point every other year or so yeah yeah yeah I just I just don't like them trying to make it seem like because there's no rap on billboard right now that all the rap is bad and why there's no good music out there because that's totally
Speaker 1
the part that I don't like I didn't get that from that article. I got them kind of leaning more into the Drake Kendrick beef as a result.
I mean, this being a result of the Drake Kendrick shit.
Speaker 1
Like, if you read what they wrote, it was kind of leaning toward that. Okay.
But, like, they kind of
Speaker 1
put a lot of it on the beef, right? But I didn't look at it like they were looking at it like hip-hop has been trash. But look, that is true.
He was A1
Speaker 1 label baby.
Speaker 1
When we first started playing the game. Exactly.
I just remember when I first started doing music journalism in the otts, like around like 03, 04, when I was really getting into it.
Speaker 1 the generation before me,
Speaker 1 the Greg Tates, you know, the Dream Hamptons, the Joe Morgan's, all those people, they were talking about how the question they always were asked is, How long is hip-hop gonna be here? Because
Speaker 1
there was that thing, if this is a fad, it's gonna go away. The 90s, it still happened.
When I got there, people were still asking us that question, but we didn't have to write about it anymore.
Speaker 1
And then there came a moment like maybe 10 years ago where it was like, wait, maybe this thing ain't going. Maybe this isn't disco.
Maybe this is, maybe this is the thing that's just going to be here.
Speaker 1 And now I'm starting to hear that bubble up again. Like, is rap on its way out? All right.
Speaker 1 I know it's not.
Speaker 1 Gonna
Speaker 1 I will not dignify such talk on this YouTube channel. As a mainstream, though, they say
Speaker 1 on the mainstream.
Speaker 1 They're saying, will it go the way? Is it going the way of... Yo, people, when people make you think that hip-hop is just a music thing, that's like to me some right-wing.
Speaker 1
Hip-hop is more than what the Jewish people are doing with the music. True.
Hip-hop is a lifestyle. True.
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 And if you look at Louis Vuitton Runways, if you look at all of that shit, all of that shit is being influenced by us. Run the world.
Speaker 1
All that shit is being influenced by us. My nigga, Pharrell, Pharrell sitting on these couches in these boardrooms is a testament to hip-hop.
Agree. Oh, I agree with all that.
Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So I don't think hip-hop is going nowhere.
Speaker 1 That's what I hate about the narrative that I'm seeing for this Billboard thing.
Speaker 2 I definitely remember that, though. Like, when rap was still, like...
Speaker 1 I won't even.
Speaker 2
I definitely remember that when rap was like, it was new. You know what I mean? It was still fairly new.
And
Speaker 2 it it just me growing up through the 90s through the 2000s it just to me it just got cemented because it affected everything else you know what i mean you spoke about us our slang words being slang words for the country versus our slang words like we really dict we're the moving is in the shakers we dictate like how shit go and what's cool you know what i mean
Speaker 2 put in dictionaries right based on our slang yeah you can't reverse that you know what i mean but i definitely remember like when it was like compared to disco and other things that went in and out and blah blah it's been there for 50 plus years it's not going to be a big thing.
Speaker 1 It's not going to be that. There's too much great shit to even dignify this fucking.
Speaker 1
But also, we got to just start asking the deeper questions. We've had a million artists come up to this very platform and say, I'm not releasing music because I can't release music.
True.
Speaker 1 Like,
Speaker 1 some people don't control their output. One, two.
Speaker 1 What the fuck do the labels care if I have I got your digital rights? I got your TV rights.
Speaker 1 i have all the rights right y'all sitting here bigging up fucking npr and all these other places that give all the money to the record label like talking about all the artists musicianship what are you talking about so every year or every other year or every three or five years whoever owns this stuff is going to negotiate with the who make who makes up the stream the streamer people we step into youtube we step into the people licensing music and we're negotiating so in that i might be holding some music.
Speaker 1 When UMG stepped to TikTok and said, what the fuck are y'all doing?
Speaker 1 Everything stops. That's happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 So music being plagued is not just a rap.
Speaker 1
Rappers. There's a lot of moving parts.
in this. I have a question for you, right? What's up, Damon?
Speaker 2 I thought it was interesting just being up here with you and you being so open and blunt about how fucked up the music industry is because people like you have to do that, right?
Speaker 2 For people to get it out there.
Speaker 2 You think back in the day, like people know industries was fucked up for black people and things were outed.
Speaker 2 But I feel like when I was growing up 90s, 2000s, you didn't really see niggas go at the record label and be open with their pieces of shit and their fucked up people.
Speaker 1 Exactly. You couldn't.
Speaker 2 So now that we at a time where nigga might tweak the record label, nigga, I mean, there I say it, some people might even push to where it's like they reach on their following and say, yo, this is what they're doing to me, y'all.
Speaker 2
Y'all love me. This is bullshit.
This is what happens. Or like when we had Queen Angel up here, she's talking about making a project saying, here, fucking take it.
Just
Speaker 2
take it. You know, to let everybody know the feelings.
My question is, is when it's so open and it's so widely known now,
Speaker 2
what the fuck would have to happen for that to change? Because it's wrong and everybody knows. So, you know, and it doesn't happen.
It doesn't even exist without us, without the artists, not us.
Speaker 1 You can make your soup a different way.
Speaker 2 Just go a different way.
Speaker 1
Back in the day, everything was controlled. Now, most of it is controlled, but there's some options for you.
Again, I always ask people,
Speaker 1 like like when I signed my record deal, I had to sit with myself and say, what do you want out of this? For me, that answer was, I want to be the best, the best MC.
Speaker 1 Not make the best single. I had never even tried to make a single.
Speaker 1
I want to have the best album. I never even thought of an album before.
I want to be able to walk in a room with all the rappers, and when I rap, they understand what time is.
Speaker 1 Every artist got to figure out what they want from this shit. That's why when Amani was here talking the other day about somebody giving them an opportunity, I can't speak to that, right? Because
Speaker 1 that's not my wheelhouse anymore. I've unprogrammed myself from that.
Speaker 1 Once I learned that I could sell 13,000 copies of a project and make more than I could if I sold 75,000 copies of a project over here, I was cool, right?
Speaker 1
Now you could go to fucking, what's all the fucking shits to fucking, where Pat worked at? Toon Core. Oh, yeah.
You can go to your Toon Core shit. Instagram will pay you.
TikTok will pay you.
Speaker 1
YouTube will pay you. You can sell it on your own.
Put the link tree in your shit. If you make music, find a way to sell it.
Alleviate the middleman and just do that for your life.
Speaker 1 I promise you, you'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 2
And honestly, people sharing, when you sharing your personalities, that was my experience on the internet. You share your personality.
They like you. They buy anything you have to sell.
Speaker 2 So if you are a musician that you're not shy, you don't have a problem sharing some shit. Do more of that because that might look like you doing a project and making it 50 bucks.
Speaker 2 They're going to buy it because they love you.
Speaker 1 That comes full circle to the AI conversation, which is another full circle in here somewhere.
Speaker 1 But the AI shit is cool, but long term, if people don't give a fuck about you, they're not going to really give a fuck about the music. It might be a slap in there that people put on play, but
Speaker 1 there's no money in streaming. I'm here to tell you, if someone has released a bunch of shit on streaming, unless you have
Speaker 1
bazillion streams, which you often pay for, there's no money in that. So cool, make your shit and put it on the internet.
Who gives a fuck? Maybe you'll make a slap. Cool.
Speaker 1 But it's not really that important.
Speaker 1 It's going back to your what do you want combo. There's a lot of people getting in hip-hop
Speaker 1 as a stepping stone to get somewhere else. True.
Speaker 1
They heart not really in this. This is just a lick.
I'm going to get in here, get hot, and then move over here where I'm going to make the money and be famous and do an XYZ. True.
Speaker 1
This is just an introduction. And it reflects in their art.
Dog, go write a commercial.
Speaker 1 Go write a jingle.
Speaker 1 I think niggas do that. They're nine to 20 seconds.
Speaker 1
Spend your time doing that. If you have children, put a camera in front of those little motherfuckers.
Facts.
Speaker 2 Especially if they little. Do it.
Speaker 1
Yes. Are you shitting me? Anything my son press on YouTube is at 70 million.
What?
Speaker 2 Them niggas watch a kid.
Speaker 1
Anything he press is at 70 million. I'm not talking to you people that, hey, my family is my primary.
Somebody go come stab me. I'm not talking to y'all.
That's your prerogative.
Speaker 1 But if you're on some different timing and you want 70 million views hey go explain how that vacuum work with your kid in the back 70
Speaker 1 nigga i came in here and was telling y'all niggas during covet what miss rachel was doing and she was doing three and four and 500 million without a manicure and chat lips shout out to miss rachel she's a pretty nice
Speaker 1 rachel
Speaker 1 like
Speaker 1 my danny in my hand
Speaker 2 come on oh come on let me tell you something miss rachel is willing to wish all the motherfucking views to stand on her platform and say free palestine and speak for people that that need her her voice
Speaker 2
Miss Rachel's a real one. You a real ass bitch, Miss Rachel.
I fuck with you, Rach.
Speaker 1 Never heard her name again.
Speaker 1 Hey, thank you. Rach.
Speaker 1
And that was the last day. Thank you.
Yeah, that was the last day. That was the
Speaker 1 document.
Speaker 1 She might as well come host up here.
Speaker 2
Nah, I love that. I mean, it's admirable.
A lot of people wouldn't risk it like that. And they, because a nice amount of her fan pays turned their back on her.
Speaker 1
Did you hear that Dave song, by the way? The last song of the album? No. He talks about.
I'll play it for you later. Okay.
Speaker 1
Did you see that the UMG and UDO, the AI company, also settled this week? Coincidentally, while all this hubbub about the top 40 is. That's what I'm saying.
Niggas is doing deals in the background.
Speaker 1
Fucking stupid fans is talking about some shit. I ain't paying these fan niggas no more.
I ain't paying these niggas no more. But no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 Yeah, the company, it's, I think, where BBL Jersey was created on the platform.
Speaker 1 They think I'm one of them.
Speaker 1 But what's interesting about it is that, at least in the press releases, is the artists that are are getting used in this AI modeling will be compensated how that looks, and I'm sure it'll be bullshit.
Speaker 1
Please, yeah, it sounds like a lie. Yeah, no, even what's the compensation? And I'm sitting here doing all this.
That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 Like, I don't even talk about this topic really because I know most of y'all are signing your rights away voluntarily.
Speaker 1 So, I'm not really,
Speaker 1
I'm talking to myself. Right.
Like, I'm the model of what I want to see in the community. You niggas is fucking pay for play.
Speaker 1 y'all do whatever the fuck they tell y'all to do so there's some of y'all out there right now who don't have you who don't even have your ai rights yeah
Speaker 1 dog like i ain't about to come in here and keep preaching to niggas are you crazy i'm talking about niggas just using it as a stepping stone to go to something else some of these using niggas is using it as a stepping stone to get out the pissy hallway
Speaker 1 Like fuck niggas can't even think about the next step niggas is thinking about getting the fuck out this hallway when niggas is selling skag every day.
Speaker 1
No, when I say that, I mean we talk about people like caring about the art and shit. I'm just saying like, that's not the purpose for getting into hip-hop.
Listen, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1 I don't want to beat people down with it.
Speaker 1 It's Halloween. Y'all making me mad because I'm really passionate about this stuff.
Speaker 1 But I do want to stay on this AI topic for two seconds.
Speaker 1 Do you guys know,
Speaker 1 rest in peace, Suzanne Summers? Of course. Damn.
Speaker 1
Do y'all see the story about her husband? She's been dead, though. Suzanne Summers has been dead forever.
She and her husband were married for 50-something years, 60-something years.
Speaker 1 Now that she's gone, the husband has made an AI
Speaker 1 doll
Speaker 1 that he says he doesn't like to call AI. He likes to call it her twin.
Speaker 1 And he says... Is that to make it less creepy?
Speaker 1 He says that Suzanne Summers wrote 27 books before her death and these were her wishes that they programmed to this AI model because he's not ready to live a life without the person that he married.
Speaker 1
I'm not mad at that. I do want to ask everyone here their thoughts on that.
I'm not, I told y'all before,
Speaker 1
I thought that's what I said a long time ago. That's where I've envisioned all of this shit going anyway.
Transferring consciousness. Yeah, yeah, that's like step one.
Speaker 1
Transferring. Transferring consciousness.
Like when your body, some, we say it in a million movies. Like, your body is a shell, it's a host.
Speaker 1 So if they can take your brain or your whatever and put it in another physical,
Speaker 1
for lack of a better word, that's what they volunteer for. We see it in a bunch of people.
So, now they're building it. Bro, bro, no.
Speaker 1 Fuck no.
Speaker 1 I'm not for it. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1
I'm not mad at it. I don't know if I would do it.
I think I would.
Speaker 1
I thought about it. That's weird.
I often, the audience, when we're off camera, a lot of times I tell my colleagues that if something, God forbid, would happen to my wife. She was abducted by aliens.
Speaker 1 She was abducted by aliens, got hit by a bus or something like that, that I would immediately
Speaker 2 live a life of solitude and loneliness and um this seems like it offers an alternative to that you know what I mean where you can still have that partner that you want I'm shocked that y'all that's a one thing about living is a part of it is death it's just it's what we fucking do I know that we can update things and make everything easier and accessible but we should not make it so that you can put your grandma and Barbara in your fucking in a robot
Speaker 2 listen when it at the end of the day the fact that you you know you go through life and you get this acceptance and you know that that's the end and you have something, even when people change, you want to get better before you death where people think about heaven or hell or whatever.
Speaker 2 I don't think we should upset the order of that.
Speaker 2 You spend a certain amount of time on this fucking planet and then you go, nigga.
Speaker 1
It's over, my nigga. Man, that's freaky.
I hate it. I think that's just humanity.
I hate that.
Speaker 1 I hate it. I agree with her.
Speaker 1 I think that even like we all are 40 plus, right? And I think that when we go, remember our lives when we were 20 and we were just doing stupid shit thinking that, oh, I got time.
Speaker 1 Oh, I got time i'm not gonna do that because i got time when you get to a certain age you're like no time is finite right and so let me get to it if you know that you could just not die or y'all could just keep transferring my consciousness then you're not going to be motivated to do nothing because you know you got time i can have kids later
Speaker 1 you know how many women i know that put off having children until they realize, damn, I don't have a certain amount of time in which to have children. Let me get this done.
Speaker 1
They thought you would spend. And then they thought, oh, but look, look.
It was waiting on you.
Speaker 1 You let him down.
Speaker 1 Now there's technology to those that, after a while, couldn't, they're still having children.
Speaker 1
Look at this lady, man. This is not Suzanne Summers.
No, no, no. That's my thing.
Speaker 1
This is step one. Like, that's my thing.
This is step one, fam.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 That's all I'm getting.
Speaker 1 I'm not.
Speaker 1 I mean, have you seen the movies? I've seen a bunch of them.
Speaker 2
Blackberry, Blackberry. Can we be honest? You don't have to put the books in her to fuck that doll.
That's all that man is doing with that thing.
Speaker 1 I don't think so.
Speaker 1 He's definitely fucking that doll. He's not listening to shit that bitch said.
Speaker 1 But that's also like the movie I came in here and asked y'all about where homeboy bought the doll, the fucker and the wife got jealous and yada yada yada yada. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I think it's a little deeper than that. I think it's been a little more mental.
If I'm fucking the doll, nigga, check me in somewhere.
Speaker 1
Bro, like, even though I'm not king-shaming, yo. I get it.
Hold on, I'd be what? I fucked the fifty, nigga. So you ain't got to talk to me.
I get what you say.
Speaker 1 It wasn't a body attached.
Speaker 2 I've talked about fifies too many times up here.
Speaker 1 If you trying to relate to her, she's jailbird. The girl,
Speaker 1 what y'all get on a female? So, what's a girl fifty called? A BB?
Speaker 2 No, I've seen girls make strap-ons and dildos. I don't what?
Speaker 1 I don't know. And tampons.
Speaker 2
Like underwear. You make the strap-on with the underwear.
The dildo is usually like,
Speaker 2
usually internally pins, then you do maxi pads around it. And a lot of maxi pads.
Then you do rubber gloves. Now you got a rubber hard hold dick.
Speaker 1 You're not going to beat the allegations.
Speaker 2 I never had any pussy.
Speaker 1 You don't know if I get some pussy because I'll be in your bitch phone.
Speaker 2 Stop playing, please.
Speaker 1
You don't want me to try pussy. Trust me, stop playing with the moment.
Really, though.
Speaker 2 But no. Eat your bitch out, nigga.
Speaker 2
They do. They do.
Trap ones in.
Speaker 2
We made ten pounds in jail. We made pans in jail.
They don't give you nothing. You don't have no supplies.
You got to do what you got to do. And unfortunately, they don't sell dildos on commissary.
Speaker 2 Would you believe it? No, but I think that I think it's morally wrong. Don't even bring in religion or whatever.
Speaker 2 I just think that even learning how to deal with grief and getting past that, you know, or having a certain respect for people that left your family and we remember them and we have events and stuff like that.
Speaker 2
It's like you were supposed to go. I don't, there's no way.
Some of the stuff that we do here on this planet as humans, it should stay that way. Like, really.
Speaker 1 See, I think that's the next step in humanity, man.
Speaker 2
Because then people because what you said was that you would do it. You would totally put your lady in the fucking dollar.
You said that.
Speaker 1
Oh, I said that's what you said at first. And what you saying, Isaac, is not humanity.
I'm just saying, I'm talking about
Speaker 1
these desires. I'm with you that there will be a next step.
I'm again, my pushback is I don't think we will be here for it. No, we won't.
No, we might not be. We're starting.
Speaker 1
It should be escalating quick, though. We're starting.
Technology, I mean, like,
Speaker 1
and it might be right around the time we need it. Like, we're in our 70s and our 80s.
That's still 30, 40 years from now. That shit might be right.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 You got to look at the Dallas eyes.
Speaker 1 You got to look at the Dallas size.
Speaker 1
They come out with something while I'm 80 now. Hold on.
Everybody thinks about the positive. What's the negative side? Donald Trump is president forever.
Forever.
Speaker 1 Nigga, no, overpopulation. it's a whole bunch of other things that are going to take place.
Speaker 1
We already scrapping and clawing for resources now. So imagine when motherfuckers is not dying and leaving the planet.
Where the resources going? It's a robot. He's not eating.
He's not doing this.
Speaker 1 Like my dear said. Let's get your house.
Speaker 2 And listen, I just watched this random TikTok where it was like,
Speaker 2
it was like three or four minutes of old people saying, I'm ready to die. Literally, birthday parties with grandmom.
She make a wish. She blows the candle.
Speaker 1 I hope I die.
Speaker 2
All people be ready to fucking go. Like, even having that that feeling of like, I did my job here.
My titties are on my knees. I'm ready to go CG.
Things don't work. It's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 I just, I don't, I'm almost surprised that more of y'all are not where me, itch, and Joe are. Because it's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 I'm okay.
Speaker 2 I am.
Speaker 2 Because what about when they start doing it without your fucking consent?
Speaker 1 Go ahead. Then you close us.
Speaker 1 Because for me, for me, right? And one of y'all can close this out still.
Speaker 1 I'm still down with the reports that was coming out about niggas paying to go freeze themselves and get unfrozen later on in in life. Like, I haven't left that part of reincarnation or freezing.
Speaker 1
I haven't left that yet. So, to skip to, all right, you're dead and that's it.
And now I'm taking all your shit and putting it in AI, I can't get jiggy with that.
Speaker 1 I just feel like every generation confronts technology that makes us rethink
Speaker 1 what life is and what natural is. From
Speaker 1 freezing eggs to,
Speaker 1
there's time people in comas and resuscitation and all that shit. People are like, no, if they're supposed to die, let them die.
Like, that's nature. Like, we always confront this.
Speaker 1
And I think it always seems weird to us, but the next generation, it might be normal. So, I'm not with it either.
And all jokes aside, but I could empathize with somebody who would be.
Speaker 1
Did anybody see Kim Kardashian say that the moon landing wasn't real? Oh, please. I missed that one.
Dang.
Speaker 1 I need to see it. Well, it's only a thing because
Speaker 1 like a real scientist that was involved with the shit replied to her and was like, big dog.
Speaker 1
We were there. We were there a few times.
I can meet with you. I can teach you.
Speaker 1 Them niggas that be educated, when they reading you, it's so nice and sweet and polite. It makes you feel warm.
Speaker 2 It's only nice if you don't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 I can show you the studio where we filmed it. I'm not mad at her, though.
Speaker 2 Listen. You don't believe in Moonland in the world?
Speaker 1 Fuck no.
Speaker 1 I'm not doing this anymore, though. No.
Speaker 1 See, I'm not willing to say that publicly.
Speaker 1
I will say it because I don't know. Because I'm not there.
You shouldn't. What I will say is, I believe Kim Kardashian knows things that we don't.
Speaker 1 I do feel good saying that.
Speaker 1 I feel good saying that. Let's put a lot of faith in you.
Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
I know. AJ the sex tank.
I don't give a fuck about that. I stand with him.
But niggas is like,
Speaker 1
we know. On the news this morning, they was like, oh, Kim Kardashian, oh, we were looking to hear from her.
Let's hear from. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1
but I do believe she knows some shit that other people don't. I think there are things she knows, especially in politics in the world that she operates in.
When it gets to science, I probably.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1
have less faith in it. You know, she can be around people.
Yo, she can. She can be.
Certain types of money put you in certain types of rooms. And I think we dip.
Speaker 1 Star tripping.
Speaker 1
And I really believe this to be true about her mom. So I believe that she talks to her mom.
I think her mom knows some of the dad secret. They know some shit.
Speaker 1
See, I don't like the thought that someone has a lot of money, so they know shit. It's putting wealth in.
I agree.
Speaker 1
I said access. Praise.
Axe. Whatever.
Speaker 1 There's mad rich people that are not very bright. They just were intuitive and ingenious in some type of operation.
Speaker 1 So, like, a whole bunch of very rich people in a room doesn't mean necessarily to me that they have some secret meaning of life or anything else. I agree with that.
Speaker 1 It could be a bunch of rich, stupid people in a room saying dumb shit. Can the room give me three people that are very rich and dumb?
Speaker 1 Donald Trump. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1
What's very rich? Almost said it. It's going to be hard.
Donald Trump. Let's not be hard.
Because we say that a lot, and I believe that. It's going to be hard.
What does dumb mean? What's rich?
Speaker 1
See, all right, I'm done. I'm trying to clock out.
We got to do that.
Speaker 1 it's so annoying that's what i'm saying what side of the skills like smart and i don't like leaving people smart or dumb for for for that reason because to me it's always about context donald trump see and i don't think that's true
Speaker 1 i don't think it's not true and this was my point that i made when we was having the conversation before about
Speaker 1 you know what we're talking about have y'all heard
Speaker 1 you could be smart in some area yeah and you could be a total fucking nenderthal in other areas that don't mean you dumb right it's some people like the analogy i gave you could be a brain surgeon and know nothing about finance.
Speaker 1
That means you're not stupid, my nigga. You just are not knowledgeable in that particular facet of life.
That don't mean you stupid. You could be an entrepreneur.
No, absolutely. No thing about space.
Speaker 2 I would love to.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't love to. You could be a boxer and can't read.
Speaker 2 I would love to hear what topic that Donald Trump has ever spoken on, with things that he's ever taken place in.
Speaker 1 Investing in real estate. Real estate.
Speaker 1 Real estate and investing.
Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, we just have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 Because that's crazy. I would also make a distinction.
Speaker 2
How much failure that motherfucker had, he learned from all the fucked up ass ass falling mistakes he made. He's a bum.
His father.
Speaker 1 His father. That's what he learned from.
Speaker 2
But we, but let's let's let's let's fully talk. Fuck it.
The father was in the real estate. So you're talking about somebody your father basically laid a blueprint.
Speaker 2 He switched it up because the father was in residential ghetto shit. No apartments, right?
Speaker 2 But still, if y'all had a dad that was in real estate, when you started, would you have that many bankruptcies? Would you fuck up as much as he did?
Speaker 1 That boy is dumb.
Speaker 2 He's an idiot.
Speaker 1 He's part of the game. He made bad decisions.
Speaker 2 He shouldn't have gotten to Landy City because it was a bad idea.
Speaker 1 Bankruptcies are good.
Speaker 1
Bankruptcies are great business decisions. Yes.
Because what it allowed him to do was not pay his vendors, not pay the contractors, not pay all of these.
Speaker 1
All the good people of Jersey, they did that too. And the good people of Donald Trump, but your point's well taken.
Thank you. That's why you're here.
Clean it up.
Speaker 1 Yo, but again, from a business perspective, because I think it's weasel shit, but from a business perspective, if I can run up $300 million worth of debt and then file a document that says, yo, I'm bankrupt now and I don't have to pay $300 million of debt, that's a great business decision that he was taught.
Speaker 1 So his father, and I don't like Donald Trump, and it sounds like I'm capable of
Speaker 1 being objective.
Speaker 1 If my father left me
Speaker 1 $2 million, $3 million,
Speaker 1 that's a head start.
Speaker 1 And I took that $2 or $3 million and turned it into $500 million or $1 billion or $2 billion,
Speaker 1
you can't say that I'm dumb. Right.
Because it's a lot of motherfuckers that leave their kids money and they do nothing with it. They squander it.
Speaker 1 I just read an article about homeboy from a different world,
Speaker 1
Ron, Dwayne Wayne's man. His father left him mad bread.
They said that nigga ran through the bread and squandered everything.
Speaker 1 So it takes a certain level of intelligence and navigating in New York City versus the mob and all that shit and gambling to get what he got.
Speaker 2 Yeah, and I just, I just, I just feel the opposite. And the bankruptcy probably was the wrong example.
Speaker 2 I feel like for a person to have a head start like your father giving you a loan and have that record in real estate.
Speaker 2 And when you look, you really look at his past, his start in real estate, I just feel like he's stupid. Like he makes bad decisions.
Speaker 2 Even how many businessmen that make great money would have gotten to politics, that was stupid. Him even saying, Let me be the president made no fucking sense.
Speaker 1 That was only a power play. His family was president.
Speaker 1
His family, they say, on record, has made a billion dollars every month that he's been the president. And closed me out.
You closed me out.
Speaker 1 So you can't now say that that's bad decision making getting into politics because it gets me the access to do other shit and be around other people and be in other rooms that could I could mask my real goals in politics.
Speaker 1 On to, because we still not leaving music.
Speaker 1 On to an argument that I feel like we've had up here a bunch, but it's come up again.
Speaker 1 So I'll ask you guys again.
Speaker 1
Jay-Z versus the field in a versus. He loses.
Does Jay-Z audio?
Speaker 1
I mean, I feel like it's old audio. It is.
He said this. I don't know why this is a fucking thing again.
Because in the verses. Because versus his back.
And now they're trying to coax who can.
Speaker 1
Jay-Z to be in a versus. It makes sense.
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Tim put it up.
Speaker 1 If the Swiss knows Jay-Z would never do a versus Timlin knows Jay-Z would never do a versus still gets more versus talk going. But now it gets more versus talk.
Speaker 1
So maybe an artist that may not be Jay-Z now put his hat in the ring. Right.
Okay. So I'm just going to ask y'all quickly and hope that it doesn't go into like a full rage.
I don't want to.
Speaker 1
It's only two people. That's more than two stage.
It's more than two. I do it.
Do it. Say it.
Just say it. I think it's only Drake and Kanye.
Got it. Freeze.
Speaker 1 I hate it. We're going to 20.
Speaker 1 Drake and Kanye.
Speaker 1 I heard you.
Speaker 1 I don't even want to say it in this room, honestly.
Speaker 1
Why? Because of y'all. I'm not going to fight with you.
You're going to say Gucci. No.
He's going to say some West Coast.
Speaker 1 You're going to say Wayne. Sexy Red.
Speaker 1
Future's a hard time. Oh, future.
Future is a very hard time for Jay-Z and the Versus. That's a weird matchup, but yeah.
Speaker 1
A very hard time. Very hard.
Very hard time.
Speaker 1 I think for the matchups that would actually make make sense on paper from, you know, an entertainment standpoint, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, and Drake.
Speaker 1 And Kendrick, probably, I'll put a conversation. I'll put Kendrick.
Speaker 1 It would be a fight. I'm just saying people that could put a fight.
Speaker 1 Anybody that can,
Speaker 1 you need somebody that can go wherever Holf can go. Like,
Speaker 1
all right, cool. You got a hard, barred up record, I can go here.
You got a hit record, I can go here. You got a girl record, I can go here.
You got a clever.
Speaker 1 Like, you need, it's really a select. T.I.,
Speaker 1
another one. Ice, they're so sick of you as the the New York Southern nigga.
I'm not a New York Southern. Whatever.
So tell me, tell me that question. I don't know.
Speaker 1
Don't tell me what they think about me. I don't care if you beat me.
I'm not saying Southern shit. I don't know the future.
Speaker 1
Wait, T.I., wait, you saying, wait, hold up. Mute up.
Mute up, bitch. I just said
Speaker 1
I wasn't doing this with y'all. And you said you wasn't going to fight with me.
You said that with future, and I just said that. I said names.
Speaker 1
I said, I only want to say this because I don't want to fight with y'all. You're not.
I'm going to go. I'm not saying with your whole dick not tucked that T.I.
does anything with Jay-Z. I'm saying.
Speaker 1
And this is why this conversation is nuts. I'm saying that 20 is a lot of songs.
It's a lot of songs. And somebody that can go wherever.
Speaker 1
Are you saying that T.I. is one of those people? Yes, I am.
Yes, I am. Stamp it.
Yes. Ice.
I don't care who, I don't care that y'all don't agree. T.I.
don't care. Just Mary and Joe.
Teona got 20.
Speaker 1
And I love T.I. I love T.I.
Tiona.
Speaker 1 All right, so next topic.
Speaker 1 I would say part of it is
Speaker 1 part of it, I think, is generational. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1
I said, so I can go to sleep. Audio Night Quill.
Popping.
Speaker 1 Shut up. Poppy.
Speaker 1 Y'all want me, right? Pop your body.
Speaker 1
I was chilling. I tried to chill.
Bring the world ninja out. Almost.
Cut through Dragonfly Joe. Bring the World Ninja out.
Bring the World Ninja out. Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 1 All I was going to say was, is this. You know all the silk to shock.
Speaker 1
Every last one of them. You're going to go to sleep when the world is yours.
Come on, man.
Speaker 1
Come on. Get the fuck out of here.
Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 1 All I was going to say is, I think a little bit of it is generational, I don't think nobody gets Hove out of there, but when I talk to people, like when I talk to like my kids or people of that generation, they think nobody gets Drake out of there.
Speaker 1
And so I think Drake's 20 does match Hove's 20 if you're 25 years old. For me, it doesn't.
So
Speaker 1
that's the toughest out for me. The toughest out from our generation, I think, is Ye.
Because Ye is also going to bring in stuff that he produced. And I think that just makes it a tougher matchup.
Speaker 1
But I take Hove over everybody in the university. I take Jay-Z over everybody in the University of Dover.
Hove is the GOAT. I think only two people can stand on the stage, and that's Kanye and Drake.
Speaker 1
I I think everybody else is going to fall short. Like, I don't.
Future got some bangers, but you said he got barred-up records.
Speaker 1 I don't see nothing where Future could sit down and start putting his favorite lyrical album record out, and Jay-Z is going to demonstrate.
Speaker 1
So, I would have to, again, and I would have to go with one of my other Trump cards to play against that. Gotcha.
That's all.
Speaker 2 If we bring it back, if we do the versus is coming back, we also need to bring back more, like, celebrity boxing matches.
Speaker 2 Like, I don't, I don't get as excited about reverses as I get at the thought of, like, Judge Mathis and Judge Joe Brown fighting.
Speaker 1 Like, I would love to see that. See, I don't, because
Speaker 1 when I watch these celebrities, they, like.
Speaker 2 I would pay for it.
Speaker 1 I'd pay
Speaker 1 or MC Shan and Will. Facts.
Speaker 2
Shit like that. I would love to see Joe Brown and Judge Mathis.
And I want them to argue like what the battle rappers do first and then rumble.
Speaker 1 I just want to see somebody beat this shit out of Joe Brown.
Speaker 2 No, for sure. Judge Mathis.
Speaker 1
He's one of my leadership. Joe Brown can't fuck with Judge Mathis.
I want to fight some of you podcasters, too. I ain't going to lie.
Yeah, we could definitely do the pod fighting. I'm with that.
Speaker 1
On God, on game. Set it up.
Seriously.
Speaker 1 I know y'all are gonna think I'm joking because I'm pardoning.
Speaker 2 Set it up.
Speaker 1 There are a few podcasters that I would not mind putting the shit on and going to a park somewhere and beating the absolute dog shit out of just because of your style of pardon.
Speaker 2 Me and Joe back to back is a scary sight.
Speaker 1 How many on your list?
Speaker 1
It ain't a lot that I want to do that with. Three or four.
That's only two.
Speaker 1 No, it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 1
I know two. I was trying to.
I know two. I know two Off the top.
Got to get beat up.
Speaker 1
Just because that's... Sorry.
Sorry.
Speaker 1 Sorry.
Speaker 1
Homeboy Duke. He another one.
Put him in there. And I'm not saying that it's beef because niggas hear this shit and take it the wrong way.
I like.
Speaker 1 But come to Central Park.
Speaker 1
There's a few of y'all that y'all can come to the park and get pause put on y'all for play play. Or pause put on me.
Pay paper. That's what I say.
Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 2 That'd be great. You might.
Speaker 2 I'm with other podcasts. I'm with that shit.
Speaker 1
No. I'm with that shit.
No, because then I got to speak to them.
Speaker 1
That's gross. How your people speak.
I don't want to speak to nobody. You ain't got to talk to nobody.
But the niggas I follow,
Speaker 1 I'm following strangers that are by the monkey bars in their headgear. Some of them in New York on cement.
Speaker 1 Like, I'm following sickos.
Speaker 1
It seems to be a budding business. Also, of just meeting up, scrapping.
When it's over, it's over. Yeah, it's like it's a ref.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a real thing.
It's not me just talking shit.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I've seen it. But I think that that could be really profitable for podcasters.
We can even donate some of the money to our favorite charity. We could do a turkey driver.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we can fight at the turkey drive. I'll fight some of them.
Speaker 1
You got a list, Mona. One of these niggas break your window.
And you podcasters look flabby and sick. I quit smoking and I'm in the gym three to four times a week.
You niggas look flabby and sick.
Speaker 1
I'm with all the shits. I was beating you niggas up out the gym before.
I'm totally with this now. I trust my answers.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you don't.
Joe would have spotted. I'm sorry, you don't.
Speaker 1 Joe would have spotted. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 Man, you need to put the fucking gear on the ball.
Speaker 1 You ain't say nothing.
Speaker 2 Off the top of my head, probably
Speaker 1 four. You got four? Yeah.
Speaker 2 Four. But I was one I once wait.
Speaker 1 Oh, I want that bitch back.
Speaker 2 And it's now you think. Never, I've never said her name on this platform.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I love Mark.
Speaker 1
I really love all of you. I do.
Oh, you guys are great.
Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What else?
Speaker 1 Did he got his first assignment?
Speaker 1 Don't stop it.
Speaker 1
Diddy is in Fort Dicks. Like I told y'all he was going to go.
What do you mean? No, no, I mean he got his first prison assignment inside of Dicks. Oh, where he working?
Speaker 1 He's in charge. He's
Speaker 1
in Dicks. He's in Fort Dicks.
And he's in charge of clothes. He's in charge of laundry.
Speaker 1
He's in laundry. Breaking news.
Yeah, he's in laundry.
Speaker 2
That's surprising they would put him in laundry. Tell me why.
I don't know. Like, Kim worked
Speaker 2
in the warden's office. She cleaned the warden's office.
They kind of keep them separate. Laundry is like a basic job, like the kitchen.
Everybody be like Jim Pop Titan.
Speaker 2 So maybe he's in laundry, but they got him like just in the corner doing stuff. Because they're not going to just sit him on a line folding with niggas.
Speaker 1
Or maybe he's trying to blend in. I hear a lot of people.
They don't have that choice.
Speaker 2 Are you saying because you understand what I'm saying? Like, they don't, you sometimes you go, you directly in a hole. It's for your protection, right?
Speaker 1 But Fort Dicks is a low. No, not in Fort Dicks.
Speaker 2
Yeah. No, I'm not saying some situations you're directly in the hole, but I mean, he's throwing a bit.
I'm sure he's not in a hole, but what, Fort Dicks?
Speaker 1 I think it's a low.
Speaker 1
I don't think so, no. Dad, crawling.
It's a medium at least. It's levels inside of Fort Dicks.
Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah, it's more than one, I think.
Speaker 1
If you're in Fort Dix, it's a luxury and it's a privilege. And thank God before they ship you out to somewhere else.
They said they got them cleaning clothes, is what the direct leaders said.
Speaker 1
He's cleaning up. If you're cleaning the floor with your tongue in Fort Dix as somebody that has to do a sentence, you should be happy in New Jersey.
No, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1
You're different cleaning something with your tongue. Niggas was literally.
Yeah, it could have been great in Fort Dicks. It could have gone a different way for you.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Cuz. Listen.
Speaker 1 Whoa, you're free now.
Speaker 1 I know a lot of y'all out there don't fuck with Amanda Seals.
Speaker 2 I love Amanda Seals.
Speaker 1
I love Amanda Seals. She's like her.
She's my friend, my dear friend, my sister, my homie. I like her.
What do you know?
Speaker 1
I felt bad when I was. Amanda Seals done said some stupid shit before that I disagree with.
She has. However, I think she's got a good intention.
Speaker 1 I feel like the people don't know, and she may not know, but I really fuck with Amanda Seals, but I don't say it enough. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1
People don't say it enough. And my last time speaking to her, she expressed something like that to me.
Like, yo, dog, we go back to fucking college days.
Speaker 1 Like, nigga, when they talking about me, like, if anybody understands, it should be you. And I think she's absolutely right about that.
Speaker 1 So shout out to Amanda Seals.
Speaker 1
I love you. I hope you're doing well.
Love you. And boy, I laughed for about 45 minutes at this clip that Amanda Seals put out the other day.
I didn't hear the clip. Oh, I got to hear this.
I did.
Speaker 1
Okay. Okay, this is great.
This is great. Because we don't know if we talk about Amanda Seals.
But I had to write this down. I got a bunch of bullshit topics here, and this is one of them.
Speaker 1 So Amanda Seals went on a rant about a movie that Kiki Palmer is executive producing. Okay.
Speaker 1 How do they... Oh, no, I can't, because that's a set-up question.
Speaker 1
What y'all think about Kiki Palmer? I fuck with her. I think she has a great house.
I don't know enough to make a judgment. I've been to some shit with Kiki.
I rock with her.
Speaker 2
I rock with her. I think she's a winner, too.
She's consistent. Because, you know, that's a killing to be.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 Yeah, she definitely comes off like she's a nice person or she's like, you know, easy to be around. I've never met her.
Speaker 1 Kiki Palmer
Speaker 1 is the executive producer on a film that is putting, that is showcasing and highlighting an Asian woman's experience going to an HBCU. Yeah.
Speaker 1 This sounds like it could be fun. There's a comedy.
Speaker 1 About the
Speaker 1 wait. And before I play this,
Speaker 1 that's why we need Amanda Seals.
Speaker 1 Yep.
Speaker 1
Regardless of what you think about her, and I mean, I know about that bullshit bullshit she said. She walked back.
We offer that. But this is why we need Amanda Seals.
Speaker 1
Because all of y'all are just going to say, oh, I love Kiki Palmer. She's great.
I don't know enough about her. She's amazing.
Man, listen. Fuck out of here.
All right.
Speaker 1 Kiki Palmer is executive producing
Speaker 1 about the
Speaker 1 Asian girl at HBCU. Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2
Why is that the movie that needs to be made? She's right. The black community needs a leader like Nevin Morton.
No.
Speaker 1 What is the black community?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 I disagree with this word.
Speaker 1 Well, I said, no, I don't. She goes on to explain herself.
Speaker 1 No, I don't want to lead the black community.
Speaker 1 Nope.
Speaker 1 Come on. I'm interested in community that is about collective liberation.
Speaker 2 That's what I'm about.
Speaker 1 Collective liberation for all
Speaker 1 You know the Black Panthers like they had a 10-point program and within that 10-point program, I believe the first one was
Speaker 1 Power to the people
Speaker 1 all power to all people
Speaker 1 producing
Speaker 1 And she goes on on a rant, so I don't need to play this but her first statement of
Speaker 1 Why do we need this? Why do we need this?
Speaker 1
Who asked for this? And why is this the story that we're telling? I think we're all amazing points that need to be said. And somebody needs to say it.
And all y'all pussy, so y'all won't.
Speaker 1 So we need Amanda Seals to say it.
Speaker 1 But in the movie, the girl's adopted. So she's raised by black parents.
Speaker 1
That's an important caveat. She's raised by black parents.
So her experience growing up is that. So in college, she still wants that to continue, hence the Asian girl ending up at the HBCU.
Speaker 1
If this is not a big deal and a nothing burger to you guys, please feel free to say it now. It is not a nothing burger to me.
I think it's interesting. I'm saying the conversation.
Speaker 1 And I agree with Amanda a thousand percent saying this.
Speaker 1 You know,
Speaker 1 there are a million stories to tell in Hollywood. They don't all have to be told, though.
Speaker 1 And when we have such a small slice of
Speaker 1 the pie anyway, to devote that much energy, I mean, there's a lot of great HBCU stories we could tell. To tell a story about the one Asian person raised by black people who go to HBCU
Speaker 1 seems like an extravagant waste of time to me.
Speaker 1 It's another American slap in the face to black people to me, and then they always go get one of us to fucking walk the dog to us.
Speaker 1 And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 That's the thing. You know what it makes me think of? It makes me think of the whole, like, you hit the nay, nay, and then we in the comments, like, you could come to the cookout, Billy.
Speaker 2 It's just, we just always giving where we got, we, you know, we ushering or we helping or we assisting.
Speaker 1 It's just, i just think that today's climate is just not the time i just think it's bad timing i don't know if it was ever gonna be good timing to do some shit because hourly we think about it it's it's probably funny it's probably you know like funny you know what i'm saying our gift is our curse black people gift is just being welcoming and loving and being warm and the curse is being welcoming and loving and warm because when they go put y'all in the asian movie they're gonna make you the black boyfriend that they brought home to the household that ain't familiar with black people.
Speaker 1
Right. That's the movie that you're gonna be in.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they're not making that movie.
Speaker 2 And they're not. That's the thing.
Speaker 1
It's not even coming out. Yeah.
It's not even coming out. Actually, that's not true.
They make that movie sometimes. And it comes off the way that we think it comes off.
Speaker 1 But I'm saying, Asians ain't making it. That movie might get big.
Speaker 1
That's what I'm saying. Like, we are a wounded people.
And we've been through so much. And black people have been a despised people for so long that we are so happy when people fuck with us.
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. That sometimes we, like, it's like, oh, they fuck us.
Does Asian person, does white person fuck with us? So then we. That we lease our experience to them.
Yes.
Speaker 1
Right. Exactly.
And I hate that that happens.
Speaker 1 and we abandon our own we not only lease our experience like when they did integration and now we could go eat at the white people restaurant they feeding you at the back door you could have walked in the front door of the black restaurant you'll go eat food from the white man's back door when they spitting and shit just to say you ate from the white man restaurant that shit is insanity but i'm not i don't feel the same way about the movie yeah and and and to be clear i don't know what kiki's role is in this movie executive producer that's all it's reported for film movie as y'all know executive producer can can mean everything from you paid for it, you got it.
Speaker 1 Shout out, although usually produced
Speaker 1 the producer in movies is more important than anybody.
Speaker 1
Do y'all want to play the trailer? Is that important at all? Let's play the movie. I want to hear it.
I think all of that stuff matters because I'm not against the movie.
Speaker 1
Okay, I know I got some explaining to do. I got it.
Let's start with the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 Yes, our nation.
Speaker 1
Yes, my family's black. And yes, I've always been hard to miss.
This is Coco.
Speaker 1 Her name, Coco.
Speaker 1 Why her name is Coco, sir?
Speaker 1 Once you immerse yourself in the opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find W has so much to offer.
Speaker 2 I need to help her, not to have.
Speaker 1 All right, no, no, no. And let's be real, right?
Speaker 2 If you are the Asian girl and you are raised by black people, what do you think at that time where you like... Because
Speaker 2 a lot of kids that are adopted, when they 18 and 20, that's when they go looking for their people.
Speaker 2 So why wouldn't you want to get into your culture being that you've been surrounded by niggas shit for so long?
Speaker 2 True, but in reality,
Speaker 1 it's not your culture.
Speaker 2 What's not your culture? It's not your culture.
Speaker 1 I'm saying, this is all I know. If I was raised in a black neighborhood by black people, like you were, and for 20 years,
Speaker 2 well, I'm saying to discover what you came from.
Speaker 1 That's not everybody's.
Speaker 2 When I say to you that a lot people get adopted, sometimes they go around when we're in that age because
Speaker 2 you're away from your parents. Now you can make your own decisions, right? A lot of times, adoption papers, they're sealed until this nigga just fucked me up.
Speaker 1
Y'all, y'all can't see this, but a money just walked into the room. You gotta come here, dress like Michael Jackson.
Just walk on set for one second because I don't want people to think.
Speaker 1 You just fucked me up with this. Can you just step on here for one second, sir? Yo, please, yo, please.
Speaker 2
That's synthetic hair, too. MJ wouldn't have.
No, that's his hair.
Speaker 1 You look good, man.
Speaker 1 He looks like something.
Speaker 1 Oh, this is he. I love you.
Speaker 1
Yo, talk. I'm over 16.
I love you. Oh, shit.
Speaker 2 I can't.
Speaker 2 I don't even.
Speaker 1
I'm done. I can't.
I don't even. Amani, you really, I like how you, you really are like enjoying your 40s, yo.
Like, look, you look at your business. You really is like,
Speaker 1
you look like you wanted to do this your whole life. You look like you wanted to do this when you was at.
What's the name of Mike House? Neverland, Neverland. Neverland.
Speaker 1 You look like you had this in your closet your whole life.
Speaker 1 He said, what do you want?
Speaker 1 No, we all did. We all did dress up.
Speaker 1
We all did dress up. Check my Instagram.
I'll post a picture.
Speaker 1 Go ahead. Does anybody have any more to say on this?
Speaker 1
I'm good on this movie. I hate that her name is Coco.
Also.
Speaker 1 Fish out of water stories are a central trope in Hollywood, right? We love stories where somebody is somewhere they're not supposed to be. So I get that as a theme.
Speaker 1 Again, but when you do, when the fish out of water is here, I worry that the joke becomes the HBCU, that this Asian girl is in this place with these people, and we become the butt of the joke.
Speaker 1 Or we get exoticized and it becomes, look at me in this place, but I can make it because I can dance like them or talk like them.
Speaker 1 I just don't don't like what it does when there's so much beauty in HBCUs.
Speaker 1 And then a moment where HBCUs are in desperate need of funding, getting underfunded and needs support, I don't know if this is the story I would want to tell about.
Speaker 1
You could tell the story of Deion Sanders. I don't know if it's the story.
You could tell the story of Deion Sanders being a dad to his black quarterback at Jackson's State.
Speaker 1 Like, there are some great, feel-good HBCU stories that you could tell without having to go get the little Asian lady. Yeah, or a young drug dealer from
Speaker 1
this Asian lady story. You keep making faces, shaking your head.
I don't know the story, so I don't know if I like it or not. I'm open to going to see the premise of it.
I don't know the premise.
Speaker 1
We didn't give the plot. We need you down with us, nigga.
I don't know.
Speaker 1
I'm not saying I'm against it or for it. He had a similar story.
He went to HBCU as a non-I mean, like, he had the same.
Speaker 1 As a non-black. As a non-black.
Speaker 1 I was not a part of. What was the name of your cult?
Speaker 1 See, they always go to the cult. No, what was the name? H-W-C-U.
Speaker 1 I'm not opposed to either one.
Speaker 1 I won't be seeing that. Listen, I know it's not a topic that we normally broach up here, but I thought it was compelling and interesting, so I wanted to at least ask y'all about it.
Speaker 1 Let's stay on the topic of licensing your likeness to people and being a fish out of water. Let's get to Adidas.
Speaker 1
Pharrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago. Freddie Gibbs came up here warm in front of my face when I didn't have a pier.
I told my girl for months that I wanted some jellyfishes.
Speaker 1 She still ain't going to stock asking to give me the jellyfishes. So now we're having a jellyfish conversation months after the jellyfish came out, and I still don't have it.
Speaker 1 That's unacceptable for me. However,
Speaker 1 you giving her the jellyfish, nigga, she's getting
Speaker 1 now. Now you got to slot them.
Speaker 1 You got to slot. You got to slot them, though.
Speaker 1 Nah.
Speaker 1 That's the problem. Y'all even.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 nah, son.
Speaker 1
You my man. You my man, dog.
Oh, you violated. You my man.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1
That was. That was a good one.
It's up for you
Speaker 1
for the rest of November. We good.
A little hole for November. God damn.
I don't let go. It's the first.
And November ain't even starting yet.
Speaker 1
I don't let go. Yo, it's not even November yet, though.
He got that off. And he got off that other one a couple weeks ago, paying holes daily.
What he said? Oh, the PhD paying holes daily.
Speaker 1
Holes daily. I didn't forget about that.
That's what I said. You see how you remember some shit? That's niggas crazy.
I didn't forget about that.
Speaker 1 And if niggas cash app you a little something on the side, like, don't Instagram it.
Speaker 1
That's crazy. Yo.
Somebody did that to you? Not to me. I'm in love.
Oh.
Speaker 1 Ain't that part of philanthropy? Yes. No, yo.
Speaker 1 Yes, nigga.
Speaker 1 Seriously. There's all the things in this equation that were probably not a part of philanthropy.
Speaker 1 See, y'all changing what words mean again.
Speaker 1
I'll look it up right now. Me too.
If I donate to your cause. What's the cause? Ain't that philanthropy? Whatever the cause may be.
What's the cause? Free the words.
Speaker 1
The cause you didn't have to donate to, nigga. You did.
Freedom sperm.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 Sperm well.
Speaker 1 There you go. So, yo, fib.
Speaker 1 Anyway,
Speaker 1 Adidas and Pharrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago.
Speaker 1 Limited pairs,
Speaker 1 limited pairs were available and it went in the aftermarket for astronomical prices. Right?
Speaker 1 Not even four months later, they are back with the squid sneaker, which is the jellyfish sneaker at an affordable price.
Speaker 1 Nothing wrong with you doing that, but I think this is what Kanye was talking about when everybody was calling that crazy.
Speaker 1 You're taking all of my designs, you're taking my sauce and my swag, you're repurposing it and reducing the price. You fucking me up out here and you own it, so you get to do what you want.
Speaker 1
Put Kanye to the side for a second. Tell me how this benefits.
Well, no, actually, I know how it benefits Adidas. What do you mean? Yeah.
Yo,
Speaker 1
is this a case of Adidas stepping on their own dope? Yes, yes. Or would you guys have done the exact same thing with the exact same timetable? I think Adidas did two things.
And this goes back to.
Speaker 1 And this squid sneaker looks like the poor version of the jellyfish.
Speaker 1 This is similar to the argument you were having where the people behind the scenes are dropping the ball because they're not relatable and they're not related to the culture.
Speaker 1 When those Kanye's were dropping, those shits were spreading like wildfire. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 They dumbed down those Kanye's and made them at a better price point, thinking that it was going to do something. We haven't heard about Adidas since fucking Kanye left.
Speaker 1
Nobody's out here wearing Adidas. ASICs done took over.
New Balance is going crazy. Salking's are going crazy.
Motherfuckers threw them Yeezys in the closet and never wore them shits again.
Speaker 1 That's why I don't understand the move.
Speaker 1
That's because of what you're saying. But I think that the numbers might represent something.
He was tied to Louis Vuitton.
Speaker 1 He comes up with an amazing sneaker, and you don't even give yourself six, seven, eight, nine months of this.
Speaker 1 You come right back three months later and put out the same sneaker for cheap. But what might have happened? How does it behoove you?
Speaker 1
I'm about to tell you what might have happened because we don't know Adidas. It's greed.
It's greed and short-term, short-term success. But in the long run,
Speaker 1
hold on, let me finish. Go ahead, go ahead.
So, let's just say the Kanye's were $300, right?
Speaker 1
But now we put out these Fanye's and we selling them for $100, but we doing crazy volume. I made my money.
Yeah, so from a number standpoint, and you're only looking at analytics, it was profitable.
Speaker 1 So, now when Pharrell comes and puts out the jellyfishes,
Speaker 1
out or the octopus, or whatever other shit at $80. And if we sell a zillion of them at $80, then it still worked for them from an analytical standpoint.
They just not popping in culture.
Speaker 1 Let me play Bema just because I love Bema.
Speaker 1 Jellyfish, you font
Speaker 1
Nadidas just cock block for Rails Jellyfish. You finally make the first skateboard piece sneaker that actually matters since it's NMDs.
And then what you do?
Speaker 1 You make damn near an identical duplicate called the Odi Star XL BBL or whatever for half the price. It's like watching your collab getting bootlegged by your own kidfo.
Speaker 1
I don't know who's more misguided, this strategy or that Nike complex sneaker of the year list. Look, every product has a life cycle.
You got hype, growth, maturity, decline. Smart brands stretch it.
Speaker 1
Adidas is collapsing it. Between 2016 and 2018, they released like 160 colorways of the NMD.
And yes, revenue spiked and then it went straight to the outlets. Translation, they milked it to death.
Speaker 1
This is a discipline issue. You're chasing short-term revenue at the expense of the expense of long-term heat.
And so it's like we're witnessing a case study in poor product pacing.
Speaker 1 You're training the customer to wait for the discount instead of buying into the dream. There's a better way.
Speaker 1 Like maybe design some distance so that the general release doesn't look like the collab and then wait nine to 12 months before you do a takedown. That's how you scale without self-sabotage.
Speaker 1
Now, cousins, is Adidas actually building equity or are they burning it for quarterly gains? That is Bima Williams on Instagram, B-I-M-M-A. He is amazing.
He is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1
He knows what he's saying. He's great at this following.
If you love this type of shit, he's absolutely right. He may be.
Speaker 1 The only thing I would have to imagine they have some more details on analytics than we do. Exactly.
Speaker 1
More people are buying it. He's saying, yo, you project it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1
I'm saying, if I'm looking at this like, all right, cool. We put these out.
We got everybody going crazy. Now we're going to flood and come back with a cheaper version.
Speaker 1 And people are going to buy them by their projections.
Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you do that? He's saying, yo, you're giving, you are taking short-time-term gains over long-term heat.
Speaker 1 A lot of these motherfuckers don't care about heat or cultural relevance or any of that other shit. We are caring about profits.
Speaker 1 That's why it's important what you're saying because we have that's the same conversation that we have in music.
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foot and shoes, I guess.
It's the same
Speaker 1 conversation,
Speaker 1
it's the same exact conversation. The people in the backboard rooms don't give a fuck about what y'all talking about.
Don't care about your classic.
Speaker 1 Sir, it's going to take three to five years to put out his quality music. And Isha's AI Sleeper is going to model Sir and put out the fast food version of that every three months
Speaker 1 for the people that maybe can't wait or can't afford that because it's art at a premium. But art should be at a premium.
Speaker 1 I think art gets tricky when you're talking about, I guess you can make the same argument for music to some degree, a very hard line product.
Speaker 1 Bro.
Speaker 1 There's a value in exclusivity. Agreed.
Speaker 2 What is the point of? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 Like, who is that? Ferrari, you're not going to see the Ferrari commercial on TV.
Speaker 1 This is Pharrell who just had the clips at the Vatican is changing the way Louis fucking does things, especially for black people, how it's represented.
Speaker 1 You cannot cheapen what he is and what he means to culture by taking his design and selling it for crackhead prices.
Speaker 1 Yes, you may make more money.
Speaker 1 But long term, is it wise, especially for a brand that's so tied to culture, for a brand that got their pop from run DMC, for a brand that every 10 years, you come right back to us to rely on us to get you lit?
Speaker 1
I think it's a horrible idea. That's all.
I'm shocked they did it. I only brought this up because I'm super shocked at this.
I'm shocked.
Speaker 1 I'm sorry.
Speaker 2
I don't go ahead. What is the point of doing a deal with somebody like Pharrell? Everything you said about Pharrell.
What is the point of doing something like that with him just to do that?
Speaker 1 What's the point?
Speaker 2 Is the whole point to create this clamor and create this thing where you know it's this thing that you can't afford and we're gonna do the cheap version and make this rush of money?
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 2
I don't know. That's stupid to me.
I mean, I guess money-wise, it's great, but it's just.
Speaker 1
The goal is dollars and cents. And I created a demand by working with Pharrell while he's fish grease hot.
And we got a sneaker that's fish grease hot.
Speaker 1 And now I know I can cut the price on that and flood the block with it and make my money. Yeah, but you're absolutely right in what you're saying.
Speaker 1
But what you just said was the goal is dollars and cents. Yeah.
I am saying fundamentally, I think it's a mistake if it's only dollars and cents.
Speaker 1 You need to have more people in the C-suite.
Speaker 1 You need to have more people in the room. Fuck the people that's just going to say, if we do X, Y, and Z, we will make more over the next two years.
Speaker 1
Bro, we just spoke about how fucked up these companies are. We're reading about layoffs every day.
Like, yo, it is dollars and cents right now. It's too optimistic.
Y'all niggas are too optimistic.
Speaker 1 It's fucked up out there. Yo, it's companies out here laying niggas off that's not even doing bad.
Speaker 1 Like, layoffs is the thing that Amazon laid niggas off.
Speaker 1
48,000. I didn't want to say them.
UPS was 48,000. I'm sorry.
But I didn't want to say them.
Speaker 1 But it's companies out here that are profitable, that are doing well, and they still laying niggas off because it can mean even more money.
Speaker 1 So you looking at this Adidas shit, like, yo, y'all are
Speaker 1 fucking up in culture. Nigga, they dividend was two euros.
Speaker 1 Like, so if I got a million shit, I don't give a fuck what you talk. And what they do on purpose is we're going to make this dope-ass sneaker exclusive.
Speaker 1
We only pay out 10,000 of them. Create demand.
But now we're going to give y'all the B version that's just overpopulated in the store.
Speaker 1
So if you can't get the A version, you're going to get the B version. I'm curious.
Dog, you have lost the office and signfeld at the expense of they came from outer space.
Speaker 1 I don't know what that means. I'm talking TV metaphors right now.
Speaker 1 I just don't.
Speaker 1 I don't know how to make that make sense. But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 I totally get it. I just don't know how to make sense of that.
Speaker 1 Go ahead, Mom.
Speaker 2
If Pharrell would have said, look, listen, hey, we're doing this deal. And just in case, you niggas want some bullshit.
Y'all can't make no sneak that look like the one I just made.
Speaker 2 And I need that to be a part of the deal. So with what y'all saying, they would have been refusing because that was always the longest.
Speaker 1 Possibly. We don't know.
Speaker 1 Kanye got so mad at them niggas. He told them niggas, I want my own building where none of your people are
Speaker 1 because they jacking my shit. I want my own building over here because y'all are taking my ideas, dumbing down my shit, and I'm not getting no money from that.
Speaker 1
I've been stalking this house on Zillow for the last two years. It's a rendering.
It's just pictures. Is this shit Corey called me about?
Speaker 1 I don't know what Corey called you about.
Speaker 1 You think I talked to Corey?
Speaker 1 But I've been stalking this house on Instagram.
Speaker 1 the other day I go to see the house oh you did go okay the land no he got sticks up he got half of the outside up and it's just sticks it's just wood
Speaker 1 but I walked through it right and he had pictures for every room so you could see what was coming you could see what's going on he said his house will be done by April but this this guy
Speaker 1 who he was awesome. I wouldn't shout him out now, but he was absolutely awesome.
Speaker 1 His family has been developing in the greater parts of new jersey for 30 to 40 years he's the son now parents got older he's taking over the business he's making his name from doing really really really modern quality homes in places where all of the old money exists right so i'm talking to him that's fine
Speaker 1
And he's telling me about all this amazing shit. He got everything he needed to build this house came in already.
I got my marble from over here. He's showing me the pictures.
Speaker 1
All these people I'm dealing with are creme de la creme, best of the best. I fuck with how he was talking.
So I started asking him about all just some of the houses I've seen, right?
Speaker 1
And there was this $16 million house in Englewood that they eventually sold for $10 million that was all over TikTok. It was all glass.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 1 And everybody that had a dime was going to see this house. And I say, yo, did you go see such and such house? Because I went to see that house.
Speaker 1 And before I could finish the sentence, he said, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 it's horrible you get these companies coming in that they're just gonna slap up some walls they're gonna take a short on everything in there so the finishes are dusty it's all garbage it's like an influencer it's like an influencer garbage that you're paying and he's like if you're paying 10 million you're paying 12 million 18 million for a fucking house you're not trying to walk in something where the finishes is done over here you can't even buy the lot if you buy the lot
Speaker 1 then they assume that they're not selling a lot without selling the house that's not built yet.
Speaker 1
He was talking that shit. And I was like, exactly.
Because in that house, everything was garbage. But if you don't know that it's garbage,
Speaker 1 if they're able to just put the bullshit sink and the bullshit this and the bullshit that, then there'll always be a market for it. That shouldn't impede with the people that enjoy quality.
Speaker 2 Yes.
Speaker 1 Well, the people that enjoy quality. That shouldn't impede with the people who have an eye,
Speaker 1
an ear, and a hand for quality shit. So what I'm saying is, you're losing your Ferrari audience because you want to put out the fucking...
I can't say Kia because that's literally.
Speaker 1
No, you're not, though. You're not.
Hold, hold on. Yes, you are.
You are.
Speaker 1 You are losing them.
Speaker 1 Yeah, bitch, go build a house over there.
Speaker 1 Take it back to the Adidas shit. The person that wanted to spend the money, got
Speaker 1 that sneaker.
Speaker 1 The original jellyfish.
Speaker 1 The one who could afford it that didn't blink at that price the one who went on stock x who didn't care about that price got it now the other person who want to look like i got it but i couldn't afford it they're going to get the v line same thing with this company you're sacrificing this
Speaker 1 seinfeld in the office for perfect strangers ice they putting out 90 different not 90 but let's say eight different color colorways of the real deal so yes homeboy went out and got the orange ones at freddie gizwa up here we got eight other colorways of premium exclusive shit that you will never be able to sell because the niggas that want to buy that don't want to walk outside and see 800 cheap colorways of the shit they just paid for.
Speaker 1
Exactly. You are wrong.
So they're going to go get them. They don't go get them.
Speaker 1
No, I'm talking to Corey. Yo, so this is the point.
There's an audience of people that Ferrari appeals to.
Speaker 1
And then there's a wide audience of people that Honda appealed to. They are not the same audience.
So I don't have to reach the Ferrari audience if I want to sell Honda's and vice versa.
Speaker 1 I don't have to reach the Honda audience if I'm selling Ferraris. That's why we don't see Ferrari commercials.
Speaker 1 Let me finish, Joe. I ain't cut you out.
Speaker 1 So when it comes to the house analogy, you are looking at the house from the perspective of a homeowner. The other people are looking at the house from a perspective of an investor and a developer.
Speaker 1 So the developer's
Speaker 1
bottom line is profit. You looking at it because I'm moving in this house.
So I want the best finishes that money can buy.
Speaker 1 These niggas say I want the best looking finishes that money can buy because my profit is my overall objective.
Speaker 1 And a lot of times when these niggas buy these high-end houses, they get in here and they change shit anyway. They got enough money to change the marble anyway.
Speaker 1 This is the stock marble that we picked. They gonna get in here and change the shit anyway because they got enough bread.
Speaker 1 So if I could turn a $3 million, $4 million, $5 million profit, I'm not going to make my profit $3.5 million to go get the marble from fucking flown in from Coatia. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 So you talking about it from two totally different perspectives. You're talking about the Honda Accord owner and the Ferrari owner.
Speaker 1 The, what's the jellyfishes are the Ferrari owners, and they're going to pay whatever they got to pay for that shit.
Speaker 1 If every word you said was true, then I agree with you.
Speaker 1 I only disagree because
Speaker 1
if Cam, if Toyota, actually, it's true. Toyota right now, I saw it yesterday, is putting out a car that they feel like will rival the Bentley and the Wraith.
Have you seen that?
Speaker 1 I show a car. We just keep going.
Speaker 1 What I'm saying is,
Speaker 1 if that car comes out,
Speaker 1
it will affect how, let's call it Wraith drivers feel about purchasing Wraiths. I'm coming.
I'm not. Yo, exclusive.
We got to bring back the value of exclusivity, y'all.
Speaker 1 I agree with you in most places.
Speaker 1 Yo, if I assume Wraith and I come outside and it's 30 of you niggas in the Toyota Wraith,
Speaker 1 you don't want the Wraith. You don't have a Wraith.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't understand what the argument is.
Speaker 1 You know what the niggas gonna say? It ain't dissed. When you bought your Ferrari, guess what you came in here and dissed?
Speaker 1 And dissed?
Speaker 1 You dissed Lamborghinis.
Speaker 1 When you bought your Ferrari, you came in here and dissed Lamborghinis because the niggas that know know.
Speaker 1 I was dissing Lamborghini before then, but I remember what he's saying. The niggas that know, know.
Speaker 1 So the nigga that got a wraith, it's like when they said the Christ with 300 looked like the Bentley or no, it fucking don't.
Speaker 1 And the niggas that had a Bentley laughed at that stupid ass statement because it didn't look like no Bentley, and you wasn't gonna even remotely pull up to this and say, Yo, we here.
Speaker 1
I also feel like hold up, hold up. I like that example.
Nigga, my defraud.
Speaker 1 They also stopped making that car shortly after. But they sold a shit to me.
Speaker 1 They also stopped making that car shortly after. Come on, look how many of you want to
Speaker 1 go. No, no, no, the 200 price blush.
Speaker 1 The Benzie Chrysler.
Speaker 1
Was it the Phantom? The 300. The big, big, big, big Rolls Royce that they don't make no more.
Yeah,
Speaker 1 I don't really understand.
Speaker 1 I'm trying to get what you're saying. I just don't think it's true.
Speaker 1
I just think you're talking about two different totally different. Yeah, you're just talking about two totally different targets.
Two different companies, two totally different markets of people that
Speaker 1
we're shooting at. You understand what I'm saying? Again, Ferrari might make Adidas St.
Ferrari. 2,000 cars a year.
Adidas St. Ferrari.
Speaker 1 I'm not saying they are, but that particular Adida that's high-priced
Speaker 1
is in this analogy representative of Ferrari. But Adidas ain't Ferrari.
Nike ain't Ferrari neither, but them Travis Scotts cost $2,000 and everybody don't have them. But it don't cost $2,000.
Speaker 1
That's the aftermarket. You got to buy them, you spend $2,000.
And that's what stop. And that wait.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1
That exclusivity and them putting out a limited amount of Travis Scotts is what made them go to $2,000. And it's okay.
I receive what you're saying. My response to that is: a smart company,
Speaker 1 any company that has boots on the ground.
Speaker 1 Got my boots on the ground. Sorry.
Speaker 1
Sorry. Go ahead.
With them fans there.
Speaker 1 With them fans there.
Speaker 1 Let your body round.
Speaker 1 You had a fat ass.
Speaker 1
Now I'm ready. They're ready to take Demona down.
Please. They're ready to take OYL around back.
Speaker 1
Oh, yellow. Oh, yellow.
They're ready to kill that fooper shit. Listen,
Speaker 1
Damn it. Foopa shit.
Damn it. This nigga's crazy.
What was Scott of Scott? Scott, yeah. He's crazy.
And I think Nike is in tune with culture. I think that everybody got.
Oh, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
What I'm saying is, when I bought my Maybach during the pandemic from the aftermarket
Speaker 1 with the aftermarket price,
Speaker 1 Mercedes didn't see that and
Speaker 1 up the line on Maybachs they would put out. Gotcha.
Speaker 1 They saw that and
Speaker 1 modeled their business after the demand they were seeing from what was happening in the aftermarket. I'm saying what Adidas is doing is the opposite of that.
Speaker 1 They're seeing the demand for something, seeing the aftermarket price shoot up like the jellyfishes were however many thousands of dollars and they're eliminating it.
Speaker 1 I'm saying a smart company would see it and work in conjunction with what the market is telling you about your product. That's what I'm saying in closing.
Speaker 1 They didn't eliminate the jellyfish, right? They still have it. All right, so you're not going to be able to do it.
Speaker 2 I feel like you're eliminating the jellyfish by making the fake jellyfish.
Speaker 2
I don't want to wear jellyfishes. If we standing next to each other and you got to squint to see which one is the jellyfish, I don't want to wear it.
I don't want to wear what she got on.
Speaker 2
That's why I buy shit like that. To me, there's nothing way to refute that.
I don't get it. I get the money part and all that, but it's almost like you saying fuck one thing for another.
Speaker 2
At the end of the day, every one of your sneaks can be affordable. You can do that.
You can have an affordable sneak. We're talking about Adidas.
Speaker 2
They've been around forever and they've been like a big part of American culture forever. So I don't know.
I think that it has to be.
Speaker 2 I think that there's no way that if I go through all this shit to get a pair of sneakers and y'all making something that close to it, just like when they did it with the Yeezy, it just takes the fun out of you.
Speaker 2 You don't want to do it again. So now we're taking the L of never being able to do the jellyfish thing again, no matter what.
Speaker 2 Because we know what y'all already do anyway, y'all gonna just put out a replica.
Speaker 1 All right, so we're gonna close it up, but real quick, I just want to say real fast. To the person that, like you said, that got the jellyfish standing next to the person that got the fake jellyfish.
Speaker 1 Guess what? Adida sold them both.
Speaker 1
They don't give a fuck. Yeah, y'all missing it.
For you to keep saying that to what we're saying tells me that you're talking about it. Y'all talking past each other.
Speaker 1
I think y'all talk about each other. You might be missing it.
I'm looking at the culture. It's okay.
Can I ask a question? Sure. Why Sidney's Sweeney on the board?
Speaker 1 Who's going to reveal their horny? With a fans that.
Speaker 1
With a fans that. I don't know what this means.
I'm getting nervous. You could sing.
Speaker 1
Could I sing? Yeah, that nigga. You know, he started off as an RB singer.
That nigga. I sung before I rapped.
I don't know if I can sing. Are you serious? Yeah, I can sing.
Speaker 1
I definitely sung before I was. He performed at Apollo Allah.
He's a major artist. I don't need to keep him off on.
I'm not being funny. Seriously.
Normally I am, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 Okay, my behavior.
Speaker 1
I used to be able to sing. When I got shipped away to my boarding school, I learned violence, drugs, regrets, BEs, and shame.
Singing hit the back burner. I started robbing people and houses
Speaker 1 and rapping. And fuck, well, that's when I went away to rehab.
Speaker 1 But yeah, I was smoking blunts, and then that led to dust, and the dust led to the robbery.
Speaker 1
It was no time to sing them. So I was grabbing.
You still go hold it to me. So I was with them fan.
Speaker 2 I noticed that about your voice, even the way you do an ad, like the way you throw your voice. You're good at that.
Speaker 1 Amani calls me Anthony Scrambleton.
Speaker 1 It's not a joke. Yeah, I'm not a joke.
Speaker 1 That's my man.
Speaker 1 Let me get back to my list. Sidney Sweeney, right? What Sydney did, man?
Speaker 1 She appeared for Chapter Variety for Variety's Power of Women of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1
Women of Los Angeles. It was a ceremony that they held to celebrate powerful women in LA.
Okay, all right. And Sidney Sweeney showed up in a gray number that
Speaker 1 took the world by storm.
Speaker 1
It was America's appreciation for white titties. Sure.
She wore seasho dress.
Speaker 1
It was the new J-Lo dress. And I'm not, it was see-through, but it was just form-fitting.
It was titties
Speaker 1
out. Oh, titties are out.
Yeah, okay. It was nipples more than titties.
Nah, if the whole shape of the titty is out. No, that's titty.
That's titty and nipples. That shit was poked out.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
She looked good. Did y'all like it? She looks good.
Yes. I'm liking it right now.
I think you don't like it. Yes.
Well, let's stay on who liked it first.
Speaker 1 Me.
Speaker 1 Me. Which is interesting, right? Because
Speaker 1 these little white girls that shape like white teenage boys, if they wear the right shit, like, because other pictures of Sidney Sweeney, I didn't feel like that. This night,
Speaker 1 her body,
Speaker 1
it looked good in the dress. It did.
I got to give props, we're proposing. So, context, this is the girl we debated about before with the good jeans.
Speaker 1 This is the girl with the good jeans pad from American Eagle, yada, yada. So,
Speaker 1
she took that stop, took it through the moon. The rage baiting worked.
Black people were mad, but our response to this tells me that maybe we jumped the gun.
Speaker 1 The bitch maybe got
Speaker 1
good kids. I mean, listen.
Listen, man. Now,
Speaker 1 we can continue to talk about Sidney Sweeney's titties.
Speaker 1
And I want to leave an ISO for ish who has an affinity for white titties different than the rest of us. I don't, though.
You fuck with white titties. I'll do that.
Speaker 1 And I do, too, if they're not titties.
Speaker 1 I'm not a titty guy.
Speaker 1
White little perky titties, you like them. I'm not a titty guy, Joe.
Did you see the pictures? I did. Did you like it? It was nice.
Speaker 1
Because you ain't even really got to be a titty guy to appreciate it. That's exactly why.
She's been a titty guy. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 She's been naked. She's been naked in TV shows and movies before, guys.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 You look.
Speaker 1
Okay, flabbergast. Stop.
So, because I don't like when he does this, and I don't like when I employ him and he does this.
Speaker 1
This is what I'm saying. I'm supposed to lie because you pay me.
Yes.
Speaker 1 I think, and I've said this before,
Speaker 1 the right set of titties
Speaker 1
attracts men that aren't titty men. But that's true.
That's a fact. That is a fact.
I think that if you're just a man and you see the right set of titties, you appreciate the titties. That's a fact.
Speaker 1
That's true. 100% fact.
So I think that's what you're saying about me. I'm not necessarily a titty man,
Speaker 1 but I appreciate a nice set of titties. It's face saying that you are a titty man.
Speaker 2 If you are a titty man, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1
And I don't know where he gets that from. I've been an ass man my whole life.
You a volunteer. I've been an ass man my whole man.
I like curves.
Speaker 1
I like all of that. I'm not sure what that shit.
It don't depends on one or the other.
Speaker 1 You with all those curves and me without no bricks.
Speaker 1 Anyway, I can appreciate Sidney Sweeney's titties.
Speaker 1
I think she looked great. Indeed.
She did.
Speaker 1 My Sidney Sweeney take is not about Sidney Sweeney. It's about the advertising
Speaker 1 company.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1 they were honoring Sidney Sweeney and Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 1 And Jamie Lee Curtis went viral recently for her ad
Speaker 1 for whatever movie that she was putting out where her cleavage was showing. Do y'all remember that?
Speaker 1
Yeah. So it was a moment having Sidney Sweeney, who had the biggest viral movement and changed the stock of that gene company, and Jamie Lee Curtis at the same time.
Wasn't it the capital?
Speaker 1 I did go Google if Jamie Lee Curtis was married to a man, and she is.
Speaker 1 She also has children.
Speaker 1 So let's say that. And I just said that I'm not with pulling people out of closets because I'm not.
Speaker 1
Okay. This dude is crazy.
I had to look him up. I wasn't.
For titties? No, the ad.
Speaker 1 I don't wasn't familiar. Hell no, I am.
Speaker 1 I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 1 What I'm saying to you is:
Speaker 1 I saw Jamie Lee Curtis when she greeted Sidney Sweeney on the carpet. Is she like them titties? And I saw the grab.
Speaker 1
As a man, I always watched the hand during the picture and the cuff and the tightness. And Jamie Lee Curtis had it down to a science.
She might have done it before.
Speaker 1
And then when Sidney Sweeney was trying to go, Jamie Lee Curtis was just... She did the linger.
So
Speaker 1 she looked back like, text me, girl.
Speaker 1 So I was like, I think Jamie Lee Curtis want to eat Sidney Sweeney. That's fucked up to say.
Speaker 1 I mean, mean, is it?
Speaker 1 But I mean shit. Sometimes when you feel in a certain way as a dude, you can spot the girl that feels the same way you feel.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Also, while I can appreciate a good set of white titties and nipples, rack,
Speaker 1 I am a chocolate milk guy.
Speaker 1 So Tiana happened to also be dressed for the time 100 people,
Speaker 1
some shit that she was being celebrated for. And she had on a blazer, not no see-through shit.
It was taped to yada, yada, yada. I was like, God damn, Tiana looks amazing.
Her body is our body.
Speaker 1
You already know. You already know.
Tiana, friend,
Speaker 1 I'm not looking at it like that, but Tiana is that for me. So to get this like
Speaker 1 dose of Tiana and Sidney Sweeney, it's got to feel like when Oreo Double Stuff put out the fucking,
Speaker 1
put out the chocolate and the and the white cream. You say it's a good week for titties.
Push it together. This is a great week for titties.
Speaker 1 Why am I the only one talking about this?
Speaker 1
Make some noise for titties. Talk about titties.
Make some noise.
Speaker 1 Well, there were some people booing those titties. Boo titties.
Speaker 1
No one should ever boo the titties. Sydney, Sweeney.
They weren't booing the titties per se. Stop.
They were booing that we could see the titties. I'll say, Megan Kelly.
Speaker 1 Sit down.
Speaker 1
Just listen. It's important.
No. I'll tell you why.
Megan Kelly didn't boo the titties. She didn't boo the titties.
She booed
Speaker 1 the showing of the titties.
Speaker 1 What she said is, she said, Sydney was on the red carpet on Wednesday and she decided to show off her number one asset, which, contrary to the American Eagle Jeans ad, is not really her jeans.
Speaker 1
It's her enormous breasts. Is that it? I mean, that's true.
She said, no, she did say the breasts were spectacular. Which are not really enormous either.
No, they're just nice.
Speaker 1 Because this would be looked at differently if they were.
Speaker 1
That's true. She said, and she said they were spectacular, but she also said, Today they're enormous.
I object to this. I disapprove of the dress because it's completely see-through.
Speaker 1
You can see her entire nipples. She reminded me of Kim Kardashian.
And then finally, she said that she draws the line at the areola being visible.
Speaker 1
So I'm raising this not so much because of what Megan said, but to ask, are there titty display rules? Well, there are. And did she cross the line? To me, no.
No. No, at society, she did.
Speaker 1
That was artsy titties. Oh, yeah, no.
Yeah, no artsy titties.
Speaker 1 Just because they're big doesn't mean that it's not all artsy titties. But is the areola natural?
Speaker 1 Even if they were small, back in the day, you don't show the areola. they put that thing on it
Speaker 2 is the areola the rule still yeah I think so I've always been against women having to cover their nipples I think it's stupid
Speaker 2 personally I mean y'all show y'all nipples what's the big deal I feel like it's you're right like if you want to show them you show them as far as when you talk about red carpet events is like to be honest a part of your brand your whole team works what you're gonna wear on the carpet you're supposed to break the internet so if i'm doing that with a little titty unless it's not allowed to the point somebody's gonna come and say hey you need to cover that up or leave it's a safe it's a go i agree with mona Yeah,
Speaker 1 if you have red carpet titties and you decide to showcase them in that way, it's worked every time.
Speaker 1 It's worked when Lil Kim did it, it's worked when Jay did it, it's worked when Marilyn Monroe did it. There's too many women that have done it in a tasteful, classy way.
Speaker 1 And I think a large part of that depends on where you're going. For these types of ceremonies,
Speaker 1 if you're going to Stafford,
Speaker 1 no, if you're going to the corporate Christmas, if you're going to Harbor,
Speaker 2 you don't want to have a crazy thing. Now, if I go see-through, they might walk me out.
Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say where the nipples point, but you know. Nah, you got to go with the see-through fupa.
Speaker 2 Nah, that's what I'm saying. If I go see-through fupa, long titty, they're going to ask me to leave.
Speaker 1 Nah, the red is.
Speaker 2
My dress is going to be a nicer group of niggas that's like, I love natural mother Africa titties. But for the most part, they're going to say go.
Those titties look good, they're nice and cleaned up.
Speaker 2 And she is Sydney Sweetney because of that big thing with American Eagle. Motherfuckers is waiting for her to be like, What's she going to do on the carpet?
Speaker 1
You know, women know when they got titties that could go in that outfit and when they don't. And they should be allowed to fucking police themselves.
Like, do what you want.
Speaker 1 If you think your titty is gonna look good in that dress, then by all means, please have at it.
Speaker 2 Anytime I've ever wanted to go see-through, I did it because I've wanted to. Like, it didn't really matter what the event was.
Speaker 1 Also,
Speaker 1 both Jamie Lee Curtis and Sidney Sweeney have done a lot of nude scenes, so this isn't like the
Speaker 1 good point, too. Like,
Speaker 1 this is regular, yes, and they're just titties, for
Speaker 1 titties is dope, y'all. Titties are doing this.
Speaker 1
I know, I know, he's about to tell him himself that he's a titty man for real. I'm not a titty man.
I'm a man. You took his hook.
Who can appreciate great titties?
Speaker 1
When Kanye's wife was running around, that's his wife. So with respect, or was his wife, so with respect.
And after I said all of my horrible shit about him and how they looked running around,
Speaker 1 I did get to.
Speaker 1 She got a nice set of titties.
Speaker 2 She do.
Speaker 1
She had a nice titties. I think I'm going to see a nice set of titties.
There's nothing.
Speaker 1 If you appreciate that, there's nothing that you could say besides.
Speaker 1 Those are a nice nice.
Speaker 1
Those are nice. I did that.
Those are some nice. Those are nice.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
So she turned that shit upside down. I done saved way too many Sidney Sweeney pictures in my phone.
I done liked too many of them shit. I done found her on Instagram.
Speaker 1
Then she went to the Dodgers game, put the glizzy to her mouth. Oh, geez.
Then she went to the Dodgers game, put the glizzy, my type of white bitch right there. What the fuck are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1 Put the double glizzy with an old girl or some white bitch. I know white bitches get freaky on the night time at the dodger camp that's about something
Speaker 1 yeah nigga i ain't gonna allow nobody to talk that shit about sidney sweeney let me pull up this fucking dodger picture so y'all can see what i'm talking about because y'all niggas is hating
Speaker 1 i'm not hating on her titties or her at all no no what are the best
Speaker 1 what are the best young assistant
Speaker 1 look look Look.
Speaker 2 She's solely like
Speaker 1
messy white head. She's a free.
Messy white head.
Speaker 1 What are y'all talking about with that glizzy right?
Speaker 2 She's in the top of it.
Speaker 1
She knows what the fuck she's doing. Shout out to Sidney Smith.
I can tell when a white girl is my type of white girl. I don't care what y'all talking about.
I had a bit of enough spaces.
Speaker 1 I'm about to shout them out, but I'm involved.
Speaker 1
I could tell the white girl I want to party with. When I get the office, I go right to it.
It's a party. It's a party.
It's a party. Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's a party. It's a party.
Speaker 1
White girl ways that. I got my white girl playlist.
Mad Miley. Are you crazy? Yes.
Yes. And Molly.
Miley and Molly. Sure, man.
Miley and fucking Molly.
Speaker 1 You got a nice set of little perky white titties. And I got money.
Speaker 1 What the fuck is you talking about, nigga? Yes, we're going to the after-variety party. Are you wearing that?
Speaker 1 I might wear my see-through shit.
Speaker 1
That's how we feeling. I might give them my lace.
She's the fucking
Speaker 1 other shit for that after-party. Nigga.
Speaker 1 Ice.
Speaker 1
It's a party. It's a party.
It's a party. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I might play Lil' John. Nigga, you know the freaky white bitches like all that shit.
You don't know they like it. They like that shit.
Sex. Get crooked in this motherfucker.
Speaker 1 Hey, London, mama. Let me whisper in your ear.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 When you see my dick.
Speaker 1 What? That song is made for Sydney Sweetie Lil' White Titties. Nigga, when you see this black dick,
Speaker 1 the fuck are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1 Everybody in here know when they catch the vibe with the little fly white freaky joy.
Speaker 1 Give it to me, baby. Rick James.
Speaker 1 Huh?
Speaker 1 Or Halloween? That's what we pop these white bitches.
Speaker 1 You can't shine this.
Speaker 1 Halloween night. Y'all know that's when we pop these types of bitches.
Speaker 1
It's a good night for white. Money, tell me I'm lying.
Halloween and New Year.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Dog.
Speaker 1 New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1
It's a good good day for white girls. Yes, it is.
We bar hopping on our look over there. We're all unsuspecting.
Speaker 1 She don't even know. Yeah, we
Speaker 1 the niggas that do this.
Speaker 1 Are you crazy?
Speaker 1 Where do you think white girl wasted came from?
Speaker 1
Getting in the corner with the perky titties by herself. Her ride left.
She's telling strangers. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. My ride left.
I am stranded. That's when it's gone.
That's when it's when it's gone. Pull the bedroom up.
Pull the van up on these hooks.
Speaker 1
I don't slide back on them. I got this crib that I'm trying to refurbish.
Bitch. You can stay over there for the thing.
Speaker 1
All I want to do is see them little perky white titties. I ain't going to do that to you.
That sounds crazy. I'm going to say that.
Nigga.
Speaker 1
That sounds nuts, man. My bad.
Man, perky white titties. Nigga, you crazy.
This nigga is in the shit. Hello.
This shit's really got you turned.
Speaker 1 Hello. White titties.
Speaker 1 Hello.
Speaker 1 Fuckers, you know.
Speaker 1 And they wear them shirts.
Speaker 1 The bitches I'm talking about,
Speaker 1 they looked at this city sweetie shirt like another Wednesday.
Speaker 1
Bitches I'm talking about, wear that shit, nigga. They going right to urban outfitters.
Wear the shit through shit. They go to skins.
Speaker 1 Bitches is going outside in lingerie with pants, swagines, nigga. What are you talking about? Does any shirts these bitches is wearing?
Speaker 1 No, you.
Speaker 1 You're not wrong.
Speaker 2 Get this nigga a day.
Speaker 1
He all worked up. Give up paper towel, Juice.
God damn.
Speaker 1 Maybe I'm titty guy.
Speaker 1 Baby, Joey, baby.
Speaker 1
Look what titties can do for the world, man. Titties can solve all the world's problems.
I think Titties got him turned up. This guy is nuts.
You gotta see me during fucking sex.
Speaker 1 I close my eyes just to keep opening them and see if T.
Speaker 1 I be like this on the bottom.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1
I'm fucking making shapes. The new Etiskets, nigga.
Are you fucking crazy, nigga? Will you close your eyes and you fucking open them again? Big ass fucking eggs comes in your fire.
Speaker 1
Like a fucking child, nigga. I'm a kid with them shits.
The fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 What's going on? What's wrong with you, son? What is happening?
Speaker 1 Wait till the educated community gets a whole lot of people. That's all I've been thinking for the last five minutes.
Speaker 1
It's over for me. You got to mark up there talking about the titties.
White titties at that.
Speaker 1 Right.
Speaker 2 But after, like, why do you think I'm a titty band?
Speaker 1 Right. Why would I be talking about it?
Speaker 1 this shit?
Speaker 1
All the niggas that bought Kanye first shit and turned the drunken hot white girls know what I'm saying. That was the third third album.
Oh stand still
Speaker 1
Still Stella Five. Well the first album was that workout shit.
Yeah, yeah. That workout.
Speaker 1 Who do you think that was for?
Speaker 1
Big titty white girl. Well, she said in the song.
I'm from Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 1 All right, take it away.
Speaker 1 I'm done. I bought a double one.
Speaker 1 We might have done it. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 There's no topping that. Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 1 Go out of the high note.
Speaker 1 That was a no.
Speaker 1 Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1
Her titties. I did not see that coming.
Not at all.
Speaker 1
I just asked when Sidney Sweeney was on the board. God damn it.
Got a classic he showed you.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I mean, listen.
Speaker 1
Shit's like, all right. Yeah, no, there's some good titties.
Yeah. Some good titties.
Speaker 1 You got to go see you.
Speaker 1 You got to go see Euphoria now.
Speaker 1 Oh, she was in it? Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yo, and I
Speaker 1 fixed a business combo. You said you wanted to move it to an artist? I'm out of breath.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you should be. Titty's got you done.
Speaker 1 And our fixed a business combo, Joe was talking about moving it to an artist.
Speaker 1 Todd Dallason's first week numbers came out, and they were
Speaker 1
really, really, really, really low. Okay.
For him.
Speaker 1 How low? How low are we talking? 7.9.
Speaker 1
8,000, right? Yeah, 8,000. Call it 8,000.
Yeah, 8,000. Yeah, let's say 8,000 first week.
And we're trying to find out
Speaker 1
what's the problem. Marketing.
I had no idea that album came out until a week later. That's the thing I keep running into with these artists that have low weeks.
Speaker 1 Like when Tyler came out, other people, it's like, oh, wait, there was an album? Oh, wait,
Speaker 1
there's just no marketing for some of these acts. And I think they're riding on their name and thinking that people are just going to do it.
Rely too much on Instagram.
Speaker 1 And Instagram, if you look at most people's analytics that I've talked to, at least, is very fucking low, let alone alone click-through rate on the people that actually see your shit like you can't just post something on Instagram and people are gonna go run out and buy the album.
Speaker 1 You know what I think it is too? A lot of them are used to the label doing more. That's true too.
Speaker 1
Like now with the labels being in disarray and all the shit that's going on the artist is thinking yo I do my usual one too. I post here.
I do whatever whatever. Yeah.
And y'all take care of the rest.
Speaker 1
The world knows my album's come. I damn near thought Ty Dala sign dropped on it as an independent.
I had to check to make sure this was still Atlantic. Oh, it was? Yes.
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1
There's been no single. Well, no, there was a single.
I'm sorry. There, but there's been, you haven't even seen him.
Right.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
When your album is coming out, you got to get outside and do something. You got to be visible.
Yeah. You got to go sit down with some pods, tell some stories, do something, anything.
Speaker 1
Literally anything. Literally anything.
I mean, not just to take it off him. You got to actually work.
Yeah. I don't hear y'all fixing them, though.
Speaker 1 So, the fix.
Speaker 1 I always said Tydala San was known more for his features than his albums. Anyway,
Speaker 1
I caught hell up here for that. That first album's a classic damn near to me, though.
Still. Free TC? Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah.
Free TC was.
Speaker 1 Still, I just have him more as a feature artist.
Speaker 1 As far as fixing him, I think standing next to Kanye like that hurt.
Speaker 1 Probably. So in terms of the fix,
Speaker 1 you got to walk back some shit, bro. Oh, he's publicly said that he didn't fuck with Kazakhstan saying certain shit.
Speaker 1 No, he said I don't fuck with hate speech. Okay,
Speaker 1 Ty Dollar sign.
Speaker 1 One,
Speaker 1 writers.
Speaker 1
There's a reason why we enjoy him on these features more than we enjoy him on his own songs. Those songs have writers.
He getting in the studio probably just writing his own shit.
Speaker 1 Going off his own vibe. You don't think he wrote his song? No A ⁇ R.
Speaker 1 I think it sounds like there's no A ⁇ R on his project.
Speaker 1 It sounds sounds like there's no nothing on this project. It sounds like these are leftover joints from
Speaker 1 him and Kanye. And I'm a fucking Ty Dollar fan.
Speaker 2 So it did that. Then it deserved to do that, right?
Speaker 1
I know, but we want to fix him because we know he's talented. We know his brand is there.
We know people like him. He has the appeal.
Speaker 1
But when it comes to his solo music, it's just not hidden like his features. Writer is number one for me.
Number two, he's an EDM act for the rest of his career. I'm taking him away from you, niggas.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
That's where the money is. I'm putting him with Calvin Harris.
That's interesting. I'm putting him with some of the big techno DJs that could repurpose his old joints.
Speaker 1
I just heard a new EDM version of Rihanna Kiss It Better. Rihanna who ain't seen a studio in 20 years.
And it sounded all the way fire. I'm putting Ty Dollar in that mix.
Speaker 1
He's one of the only people that could do that, have a presence. They love hip-hop.
I'm doing that for sure.
Speaker 1
I'm going to be more consistent if I'm Ty Dollar sign. All of this one album every five years.
Shit, that's not going to cut it. That's not going to help you cut through all the noise.
Speaker 1
What else? I'm going outside if I'm Ty Dollar Sign. But he's been outside.
No, I mean. He don't be talking.
These niggas just be outside. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1
When I say outside, I mean popping up, talking. I'm being visible.
You're going to hear from me, not just music. You're going to, I want to sit down and do interviews.
Speaker 1 I got to put something that the people could gravitate to. Or if you don't want to, back to the fucking Daniel Cesar Armani argument, go just be an amazing because he can play.
Speaker 1 He can play bass, guitar, you can play instruments. And he can sing.
Speaker 1 Go do that shit somewhere in the millions of platforms where they let you do it Tydala I agree or just outside he needs to hit the grassroots go do the in the porch series yeah well yeah go do the in the Cadillac series right go do the homegrown nigga grassroots shit that's helping people connect to their audience Tydala, I think, is just used to major label, big budget, feature, pay-me-big video, and then you're going to connect with the vibes.
Speaker 1
I think we're past that time. That time is done now.
So you have to actually go out and show people why they should fuck with your brand. And it starts and ends with you, not your team, you.
Speaker 1
I wish Ty Dollar nothing but the best. Of course, of course.
I was disappointed in those numbers when they came back, but I was also halfway disappointed in the album as a huge Ty Dollar Son fan.
Speaker 1
So I hope he gets it together. I hope we don't have to wait another six and seven years to hear him.
And he has all my him not even coming up here. He was supposed to come up here.
Speaker 1 He canceled the shit. He went around.
Speaker 1 I know I say this all the time, but nigga, we us. yeah
Speaker 1 we we are we are us we are y'all y'all are us come up here and talk to talk to your people don't let me just monopolize this audience on some self-standing come up here and use it please maybe do some streams with the streaming people and slide through the streams they tired of saying that on the fix the business
Speaker 1 playboy max i don't i don't i don't want can't wait to fix anyway Kai will fix it for you. I don't want them doing that.
Speaker 1 They sick of us saying that in the fixed the business segment.
Speaker 1
We said it four times. We got to actually fix some shit.
I don't know if you want to. GoPro, call Kai Sanat.
Speaker 1 You got to get your GoPro with Playboy Max and the streamers.
Speaker 1
Blackboy Max. It ain't a bad plan, though.
But I wish you can't.
Speaker 1 It can't be the band-aid.
Speaker 1
That's a band-aid. But that also could be the same kind of things that we're looking at now.
We were just talking about with like Instagram and all these other things that are
Speaker 1
back to the billboard charts, all that shit. How much interaction really comes from that? Right.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 Do y'all care about BMF canceling, getting canceled after four seasons? No surprise. I feel like this was a nothing burger and everybody knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1
If you followed the 50 Cent Meech, if you watched it. That's what it felt like.
This is just the show. This is over.
It should have been over.
Speaker 1 If you watch the show, you kind of wanted BMF to get over. This is over.
Speaker 1
The last season was like, come on, dog. I've been coming in here telling y'all, like, all right, enough.
And does anyone, lastly, I'll save whatever else I have for Patreon.
Speaker 1 Lastly, does anyone here care about Trump beginning to test nuclear weapons? Oh my God.
Speaker 1 I mean, I care.
Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1
I say no in the sense that there's no surprise. And the U.S.
is always testing nuclear weapons, even when they don't tell you to test the nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 So him saying that them saying that they're testing nuclear weapons signals something, but I think a lot of times it's a power flex. And you see a lot of people.
Speaker 1 I think that's all Trump be doing is be up there like, yo, put a press release about something that's been happening or I'm already doing it and make it look like I'm doing some shit. And to
Speaker 1 scare, that is scary to me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 The U.S. testing nuclear weapons, I'm at peace with.
Speaker 1 Trump testing them.
Speaker 1 I don't feel the same. I don't think it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 I feel you. And I get why.
Speaker 1 I think he's been testing nuclear parts. But
Speaker 1
we're last to that party. We're last at that party.
Yeah, and that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1
I don't feel any more unsafe than I did last week or last year. Got it, got it.
I just think he talks about the shit behind the curtain. Like, he just, he don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1
I'm just going to tell you. Yeah.
Which is why a a lot of people didn't want him
Speaker 1 when it makes him look
Speaker 1 of course of course of course of course but i'm just saying a lot of where a lot of other presidents were doing that yeah just we we don't like to blow back from it i'm not sure that anybody wasn't testing nuclear weapons in this country
Speaker 1 they always are but some some presidents and we saw this in north korea with kim jong el and then eventually kim jong-un is sometimes they do nuclear display they do displays of weapons uh of weapons testing as a way of showing look how powerful we are look how mighty we are we're still in control still got my hand on the wheel and i think that's what trump is doing he's He's taking a page out of the fascist or the despot
Speaker 1
leaderbook, which he is. So it makes sense.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Before we go,
Speaker 1
Mark, we got one week left in the New York mayoral race. Yeah, less than that.
I know you've been glued to this the way I've been glued to it.
Speaker 1 I'm still indeed glued to it, along with that Trenton governor shit.
Speaker 1 That shit got you in the chokehold, them commercials.
Speaker 1 I'm finally seeing the other side's commercials,
Speaker 1
right? Like, I've seen nothing but Jack Chitterelli is a shithead. This week, I've seen the woman that he's running up against and what he's saying against her.
Jack Chitterelli, you're done.
Speaker 1
Mikey Sheryl. Homegirl.
You familiar with her? He tried to say some compelling shit, but it didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 1 Trenton, if you're listening out there, as a New Jersey resident for most of my life with the key to mad New Jersey cities, I'm not voting Jack Chitterelli. Fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 But the New York shit,
Speaker 1 Some uneducated takes from me.
Speaker 1 Uneducated takes from me.
Speaker 1
Eric Adams, you look like a sucker standing behind Cuomo. You do.
Yeah, you do. He looks so soft back there because of his, because I heard him.
The bravado, I heard what he was saying.
Speaker 1 But Eric Adams do look like he's having private calls with Trump and being kind of.
Speaker 1
He looks like that. He's going to be someone who's got a lot of people.
It's about uneducated political opinion. It looks like that.
So you look nuts back there, Eric Adams.
Speaker 1 What else?
Speaker 1 What else? What else? I'm still laughing at the Curtis Sleewood commercials. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Classic. But it appears that Mom Donnie is going to, if we're going by the looks of it, it's a done deal.
Speaker 1
It looks that way. Yeah, it's been a done deal.
But then there was this moment where people worried that the Adams withdrawal could lead to enough votes.
Speaker 1 But Curtis Leewood didn't pull out, which honestly means that Republicans are going to vote Republican. It's hard to get Republican people registered Republican in New York to vote independent.
Speaker 1 They're Republican for a reason.
Speaker 1 Do you think it makes a difference if Sleewood drops out? Or if he dropped out?
Speaker 1 If he had dropped out at the exact moment that they wanted him to, which was when Adams did, it would have been a competitive race because then what would happen is those numbers don't add up to Mamdani's.
Speaker 1 But what does add, you start to see people say, oh, wait, you can win. Oh, we'll dump more money
Speaker 1 into your campaign. Oh, there'll be bigger ads.
Speaker 1
They'll take more risks. They're not taking no risks on Cuomo because it's too big of a well, bigger ads historically have meant bigger turnout.
Yes. Right?
Speaker 1 This race, again, my very uneducated opinion, seems to come down to, and even just watching the commercials and some of the debates,
Speaker 1
I think New York is just too expensive for people to not go Mom Don. I think that's right.
See,
Speaker 1 I think New York just costs too much. So his message of hope and the time that it comes at versus what Trump is trying to do with blue states versus red states, I think is just a perfect
Speaker 1 gumbo right now.
Speaker 1 I think New York is going to surprise people.
Speaker 1 I think that Cuomo has a bigger dog in this fight than people think.
Speaker 1 And I think that whether the Republicans are going to come forward and say they rock it with Curtis Lee, I don't think majority of the Republicans will vote for him.
Speaker 1 I think the majority of the Republicans are looking to vote for Cuomo and they can mask it however they see fit, but only you and the booth when you go vote.
Speaker 1 What do you say to people that say that the New York we're seeing is Cuomo's New York?
Speaker 1 Currently, yeah, I think they're wrong. I think this is Eric Adams is in New York.
Speaker 1 I don't think this is Cuomo's New York, but these prices and shit, the main things that are incontestable, yeah, we have been here since Cuomo, yeah, before we've been here before Cuomo, true.
Speaker 1
This ain't a Cuomo thing, Cuomo didn't do this to New York City. New York City has been ridiculously expensive.
When did Cuomo take office in New York? Because I don't know that that to be true.
Speaker 1 When did he get there? When he was governor, he became governor?
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1
Somebody just Google it quick while you're talking about it. I don't know.
But New York has been expensive since.
Speaker 1
When do you feel like you can pinpoint that turn? And I don't want to regionalize us out. I'm telling you that since we were children, New York has been highly.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1
No, but I think that's the point. I think Ish is right, but I think that's the point, is that Cuomo is the status quo.
2011. And
Speaker 1 I think that this is what I like.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I disagree with that. Look, this is what I don't like in politics.
I don't like in politics where people start quoting shit, and this is what Trump did.
Speaker 1 I don't like in politics where people just start saying the correct shit to say, but they can't physically do this shit.
Speaker 1
Donald Trump went on TV and told everybody, y'all fucked up, y'all poor, y'all broke. I'm empathizing with y'all and I can change it.
And he can.
Speaker 1
And I think this is what Homeboy is doing. I think Homeboy is saying some of the same shit.
I think he's saying, yo, I'm going to give the buses for free. And I'm going to do all.
You cannot do that.
Speaker 1
And I think you're promising people shit that you can't do. And you playing on people's desperation.
And I think that shit is whack when politicians do it.
Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck what side of the aisle they're on.
Speaker 1 And we calling it out for Trump lying to motherfuckers saying, I'm going to make groceries groceries cheaper and I'm going to make housing cheaper and I'm going to make all of these things cheaper.
Speaker 1
He can't do that. He don't possess the ability to do that.
I think that homeboy don't possess the ability to do some of the shit that he's saying he's going to do. That's true.
Speaker 1 And I think that that's whack.
Speaker 1
I think that that's true. At the same time, I also don't think that New York was this way in 2011.
And I'm saying this as someone that is not so politically inclined, just as someone living out here,
Speaker 1 you can see where there's not a home for middle-class people in New York more evident than ever before to me.
Speaker 1 I think that's been a topic on this podcast for a little while as a podcast that ain't into politics. Dog, it was like
Speaker 1 2011.
Speaker 1
We just got more money now, so we're looking at more shit. Now, I've been in the real estate game since 2003.
New York has been high as giraffe pussy back then.
Speaker 1 But we're not talking about real estate.
Speaker 1
I'm talking about cost of living. The major expenditure that most people have is rent or mortgage.
So that's everybody's biggest bill across the board, right?
Speaker 1 So if your rent in New York City in 2011 was $3,500 or $3,000, my nigga, the cost of living is high as shit. That's just, wham, that's just number one, cost of rent.
Speaker 1
And that's most people's biggest bill. So you can't say that it wasn't as high.
Maybe in the last few years, it's gotten
Speaker 1 the gap between rich and poor
Speaker 1
is growing a lot. But that's not just because of New York.
That's because of jobs. Everything is more expensive.
That's because of technology. That's because of outsourcing and all of that.
Speaker 1 That's actually on his real estate conversation.
Speaker 1 Everything is more expensive as someone who lives in New York and has apartment shopped in the last I apartment shop all the time really crazy it's much more expensive than it used to be that being said everything is much more expensive than it used to be so that's what I'm saying yeah I
Speaker 1 yeah that's for sure I think Momdani has some things within his power some things he can't but I think having a vision a progressive vision for what the city could look like is what he's yeah I think that means I think people need hope I think people need plans I agree actionable plans I think making buses free is possible he didn't say he's gonna make all the public transportation free, but buses, I think you can make free meat.
Speaker 1 When you look at his plan, I think it seems doable.
Speaker 1 So when you make buses free and then they lay off mad MTA workers because they're not being as profitable as the MTA once was, and then we're going to bitch at that.
Speaker 1 Like, yo, dog, I just think that's...
Speaker 1 But that's not what he's... That's not what he, that's not.
Speaker 1
I'm just giving you an example. But it's not an example.
This is a real thing. That's what I'm saying.
What part of his plan do you find unworkable?
Speaker 1
I don't think that he could possibly make the buses free in the city. Well, how is he proposing to do it? I don't know.
I don't know the ins and outs. How do you know he can't do it?
Speaker 1
That's what I'm saying. Like I feel like he's given reasons.
He said, I mean, I don't mean to cut you off. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 I think that what you are going to propose is going to have kickbacks. And I think when you propose these things, again, to whatever politics...
Speaker 1 Bro,
Speaker 1 I'm a realist, number one.
Speaker 1 And then
Speaker 1
I think finances play a part in everything. And so I think when you start doing, taking money from here, the money got to come from somewhere.
And where is he proposing to take it from? I don't know.
Speaker 1 Then how, okay.
Speaker 1 I would only say respectfully that we should at least look at the plan. Before we say it can't happen, we should at least see what he's asking.
Speaker 1
Because where he's saying to take it from, and you might still disagree, but I just think it's better to know his plan before we say the plan can't work. That seems fair.
True.
Speaker 1 He's saying that raising corporate taxes. He's saying more aggressively collecting unpaid bills
Speaker 1 from elites, particularly like water bills and things like that. So he's not saying take from this public source that's getting funded and put it over there.
Speaker 1 He's saying there's money that's not being collected that can be more aggressively collected. And he's saying that there are people who aren't paying their fair share at the highest levels.
Speaker 1 Now, I'm not saying there's not a consequence to any, every action has a reaction, but I do think, and at least the financial experts, I'm not a financial expert, so I can't say, but the economists that I know who've looked at it and the financial experts I know who've looked at it have said that this is a workable plan.
Speaker 1
Buddy, there could be a large portion of people that think that his ideas are not doable and sound preposterous. There's a lot of people that just like someone with new ideas.
True.
Speaker 1
And i.e., Donald Trump. Cuomo just keeps saying he never had the job.
He never had a girl. He don't have experience.
He don't, and that, that, I just don't think is enough for savvy New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 I don't. I'm not disagreeing with you, but when you start talking about the corporate, the corporate, we're going to make the corporate corporations pay more taxes.
Speaker 1
Everybody in this room, I hope, knows that corporations pay no taxes. So unless you're going to go restructure the entire tax system.
That's what he's proposing.
Speaker 1
He's saying raising the corporate tax rate. Cool.
And the powers that be are not going to...
Speaker 1
We're going off on a tangent. No, it's not.
That's the thing that I'm saying. That's the truck.
Speaker 1 The powers that be run New York, not him.
Speaker 1
The powers that be run the United States of America, not him. The powers that be run the world, not him.
Or these smaller people that have these huge, monstrous ideas.
Speaker 1 And so when the heartbeat of New York is corporate America. And so now when you start beating up the heartbeat of New York, it's going to be pushback.
Speaker 1 And I don't think that he's going to be able to deliver on that, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
If he does, he does. I just don't.
I think it's a farce. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't say it. I wouldn't go that far.
But I call it a farce. But I do think that
Speaker 1
his overall agenda is a progressive one, and some of it can be enacted. You used the Trump example.
Trump wasn't able to build a wall. I know.
Speaker 1
Trump told the niggas in West Virginia he was going to bring coal back. No, no, but hear what I'm saying.
They voted for him. No, but hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 But the person who wanted Trump to build a wall had a certain vision of what the world should look like. And that vision is being enacted in policy.
Speaker 1 So maybe like only half of what they want that he promised, or even 25% of what he promised is there, but it's still moving in a different direction.
Speaker 1
The country is still moving in the direction that they want now. And I'm saying similarly with Mamdani.
Um,
Speaker 1 let's say he doesn't make buses free, but but public transportation gets cut in half. Let's say
Speaker 1 we don't lower the price of rent, but rent control gets stabilized in more places. This is still a different direction.
Speaker 1 And I think for a lot of people, it's not just I'm saying the shit you want to hear, which I agree would be like empty, but I'm saying he's actually moving us in a different direction.
Speaker 1 And that's and that and that's helpful. I agree with you on the Trump point, and too is, but it's two-faceted.
Speaker 1 So, the Trump point where he appeals to the idea of these elitists or these racists or whatever, that is definitely moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1 But he also appealed to the desperation of the American people, and he has not delivered on that. And a lot of people voted for him based on that particular thing.
Speaker 1 That the people with the wall and the ice.
Speaker 1
They did, he doing what they want him to do. But over here, these motherfuckers that he appealed to them saying, yo, I'm going to fix groceries.
He has not done a fucking thing.
Speaker 1
I'm going to lower gas. He has not done a fucking thing.
I'm going to bring jobs back to America. He has not done a a fucking thing.
And those are the things that got him elected to me. Right.
Speaker 1 And what I'm saying is what Maman. And that's because some of those things, to your point, are outside of Trump's control, right?
Speaker 1 The things as a mayor of a city that he's proposing, I think, are much more actionable.
Speaker 1 If Mom Dani were running for governor or president with the same proposals, I'd say, well, no, you know, this isn't doable.
Speaker 1
But mayors have been able to affect rent. Mayors are able to affect roads and they are able to affect housing.
And I think that this is an opportunity.
Speaker 1
I mean, we'll obviously see, because I think he's going to win and we'll find out. But I think his policies are at least doable.
I don't think he's selling pie in the sky in a great buy and buy.
Speaker 1 We'll see.
Speaker 1 Because this is New York. This ain't
Speaker 1 my fucking,
Speaker 1 this ain't a regular city, Mike. But you know, a lot of them rich New Yorkers,
Speaker 1
they wanted their shit to count in Florida. So they're doing their 50.
And for tax reasons, a lot of the most influential New Yorkers, they're not voting in New York. They're voting in Florida.
Speaker 1
So that's also a really important thing to think about in terms of who's going to make this thing happen. But anyway, we'll find out.
In closing, do you see Cuomo winning? No,
Speaker 1
I just think it's going to be tighter than what people think. I think Curtis Sleewa is a joke to most of the New Yorkers.
I don't think he has the Republican vote.
Speaker 1 I think Cuomo has the Republican vote. And Malcolm, you think Malcolm? Yeah.
Speaker 1 That is Malcolm. That is Malcolm.
Speaker 1
I think Liwa gets the majority of the Republican vote. I don't see any way where he doesn't.
Who do you see winning? My mother. My daddy by 60%.
Got it. Got it.
Speaker 1 Especially if Sleewa gets the Republican vote, he's going to wipe the board with everybody else
Speaker 1 across the thing.
Speaker 1 We'll see.
Speaker 1 Sleewa keeps posting pictures of him from 84. Dog, it's over here.
Speaker 1
I don't care nothing about that little Hell's Angels hat you keep wearing. They lucky guardian angels.
Guardian, yo. Don't disrespect the Hell's Angels.
Speaker 1
He's walking around being a Guardian Angel today. These little niggas are Hell's Angels, Guardian Angels, Victoria's Angels.
Let's show you some angels. California Angels.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, all of the angels.
Speaker 1 Really good part today, Ice. Before we leave,
Speaker 1 Disney pulls from YouTube all of their shit, which is FX National Geographic.
Speaker 1
A, B, from YouTube TV. From YouTube TV.
From YouTube TV, from channels. Yes.
Speaker 1 Close us out. Yeah, I got the email actually last night because I actually subscribed to YouTube TV.
Speaker 1
Oh, you got it too? Yeah, they're don't. I've had it on and off.
You don't have YouTube TV-ish. You have it.
Go ahead, Freeze.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they just said they couldn't.
Speaker 1 They had nothing issue.
Speaker 1
He'd be like, I got to run the water. He's like, no, fuck you, though.
You got to fucking run the water. And then they say, yo, he always competing with Joe.
He wants to be like Joe.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they just, they say they couldn't come to terms.
Speaker 1 And what's happening is,
Speaker 1 what's happening is
Speaker 1 ESPN has their own app.
Speaker 1 I want you to come here.
Speaker 1 So I'm going to charge you out the ass to go over there.
Speaker 1 You know, to license it to y'all, I'm going to put an astronomical number.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1
the company's going to say, no, we're not going to pay that. Okay, cool.
We don't want you to pay that. Now, everybody that wants to watch
Speaker 1
all of that, bring it on over here. They've already consolidated their apps.
They got a Disney Hulu and ESPN in one hub now. So, yeah, I want you to come here.
It makes sense.
Speaker 1
It makes all the sense in the world. If you got YouTube TV, you're getting screwed right now.
You can't see your ABC affiliates. You can't watch sports.
You can't do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1
So I hope they come. I think they're going to come to terms because I think Disney got them where they want them, to your point.
But until they get into it. Y'all going to miss.
Speaker 1 Y'all miss.
Speaker 1
Is the World Series? Can y'all even see the World Series? I don't watch Facebook. You don't watch Facebook.
You don't care. But I have everything anyway.
But But
Speaker 1 they're getting busy.
Speaker 1
They're on the brink as of this conversation. Yeah, I don't want to date this podcast, but they got to show up tonight, the Dodgers.
I think I've accepted that.
Speaker 1
As a Philadelphian, I hate the Toronto Blue Jays because of what they did to us back in 93. I can't get over that with that Joe Carter home run.
The entire league would be happy if the Blue Jays win.
Speaker 1 And I had to accept that because I can't. The Dodgers put us out, but
Speaker 1 I came in here the other day and said, Are the Dodgers cheating?
Speaker 1 Like, the Dodgers were viewed as this powerhouse, unbeatable.
Speaker 1
They swept us last year, right? We won a game. Oh, we won a game.
That's the guy they had to. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1
that's not good. If you do that to the Yankees on the biggest stage, it's bad for the parody of baseball.
You want the team that doesn't have this fucking, it's no salary cap in baseball. No.
Speaker 1
So you want the team that is built like a baseball team to beat the team that has spent 900 gazillions. About the super team.
Yeah, exactly. That's all it is.
Exactly.
Speaker 1
Anytime the super team makes it to the finals, everybody. Yo, that's such bullshit.
Because when New York was building the super team, ain't no New Yorkers say that.
Speaker 1
But the rest of the people, the rest of the world did. The rest of the people.
We were all pissed. You can still hate the Yankees.
Speaker 1
First we were having Boston built their own kind of super team, and then the Mets built their super team. It didn't work.
And then it was like, okay.
Speaker 1 No, the Yankees have been building one for 20 years. Well, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 What y'all saying is not fear. When the Yankees were doing this, when George Steinburner was alive,
Speaker 1 he was saying, I'm not doing anything that other teams cannot do, right? Okay, yeah, when he died, began bidding on players,
Speaker 1
which changes everything. It does, but that's not just a salary cap.
We've all got the same money, which was a lot too, because we all don't have the same money. Well, that's what I was about to say.
Speaker 1
If you have your own channel, New York has more money. Starting Brennan always had more money.
The Mets weren't even winning and they had more money.
Speaker 1 But today, when we're doing blind bids on
Speaker 1
superstar Japanese players and Dominican Dominican players, not just Japanese players. Yeah, your money don't really matter at that point.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
And I hope we get back to the point where farm systems matter. Your money don't matter at that point.
Yeah, I disagree.
Speaker 1
It's a blind bid. You rich, I'm rich.
We could all do the same thing. You can't see nobody.
You can't see nothing that nobody is doing. Okay.
Yeah, but like, if you look at the bid.
Speaker 1 So if you want this guy, right? Like this new Japanese prospect, I wish I could get his name right now, but I don't have it. Everybody's going to bet the house because of what's going on.
Speaker 1 Like we in the middle of something. But when Homeboy went,
Speaker 1
the Red Sox was short by however many millions. The Yankees were short for, and these are franchises in major cities that also have all the money in the world.
We're just not doing it.
Speaker 1 We can't see, we're not willing to go that far. So it's how far are you willing to go? The Dodgers brought in new management, I mean, new ownership, fucking magic in all these niggas.
Speaker 1
They're just going to operate. differently.
And so they've seen the results of that.
Speaker 1 If I know my opponent got a lot of bread and I got a lot of bread, I'm going to shoot for the moon and put a number that even if you can afford also what's not fair
Speaker 1 with that. Also what's not fair is when when when the bid for Otani was going what was happening what they were saying in baseball circles was this is a done deal for the Dodgers already.
Speaker 1
He's not willing to go to any other city. Japan is right there.
He's close to the home. We're in LA.
It's just unfair on levels that have more to do with just money. Exactly.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 I mean I think every team has a and if it were basketball where 12 where you got 12 guys and one player can really kind of change the whole franchise, I think it's easier for the smaller market team to stay in the mix.
Speaker 1 But in a baseball team, I mean, first of all, rarely is the guy pitcher and an offensive player and a position player, right? But even if they were, if you're Milwaukee, that's a good example.
Speaker 1 The Brewers are an excellent baseball team. Well-structured, great lineup,
Speaker 1
one through nine, strong bullpen. But they ain't got the money that the Dodgers have.
They don't have the money
Speaker 1
that the Yankees or the Mets have. They could bid for an Otani-type player.
That's a cap.
Speaker 1 But yeah, but it's an informal cap because then what you're going to do with the other positions as they age out, whereas the Dodgers can have four of those. The feeling is we got three guys.
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? That are making that. When we got Bryce Harper, we didn't blink.
Yeah. You know what I mean? The Yankees and Mets don't blink.
I think, and we're still looking to step up.
Speaker 1
So I still think. You think there needs to be a selling cap in baseball? No.
No, I don't think so. So then you can't bitch about the unfairness.
You either can have it one way or another.
Speaker 1 Y'all not responding that. Listen to that.
Speaker 1 You're not just talking about the money.
Speaker 1
I know. You're saying it's unfair stuff, but all of the unfairness that you based everything was on money.
No. That's not true.
No, like you like, like, like, you based it on.
Speaker 1
LA being right there by Japan. That ain't LA fault.
That's true. Like, certain niggas don't want to go to play for the Bucs.
Yeah. They don't want to be in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 They prefer to be in bigger markets, larger markets.
Speaker 1
Yeah, Houston. I mean, not Houston, Tiami, Florida.
They don't have state taxes. It's other damp things that go into where somebody wants to go to play.
But you're making the point.
Speaker 1
That can't be solved by salary cap. No, those things can't be solved by salary cup.
But I'm saying for the Eons, y'all just said that New York,
Speaker 1
based on demo, has more money than smaller market teams. I'd like to be creative about it.
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 We got a channel. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And it's New York City.
Speaker 1 We could charge more for a ticket in New York City than we could charge for it in.
Speaker 1 I guess what I'm saying is I don't want to cap players' money as the solution to this.
Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't have a solution off the top of my head of how to fix this, but I would imagine there's something other than a salary cap that we could think of
Speaker 1 that would allow at least these elite players to to not keep going to the same
Speaker 1
three cities. Oh, that you put a you put a rule in play.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
But I can't have no more than two. That's the kind of thing that's a lot of people.
Max players, or whatever you want to call them. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1
That would be a perfect example of how to do it. So we'll figure it out.
Got it.
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Real good episode today. Real, real important.
I don't think the song was about anal sex. What'd you say? Have you ever thought this song was really about anal sex?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 Me either.
Speaker 1 Let's just carry on like that didn't happen. Big miz.
Speaker 1 Big miss.
Speaker 1
I see why they got rid of that club that y'all had. It's a ramp season.
There's some shit going on in there. Every time I love around too much.
Yeah, sure, no. Hey.
Speaker 1
That nigga goes. You really really enjoyed the topic slate tonight.
This was great. It is.
Again, happy Halloween to y'all out there. Igu!
Speaker 1 I can turn me down. Don't you turn me down.
Speaker 1 I can show me down. Yo,
Speaker 1 hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Speaker 1
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time,
Speaker 1
we bid you a due farewell. Adios Areva asta la vista, arboir, so long goodbye, or a simple head nod will suffice.
That baseline got a little butt sex pop to it. This is a butt sex song.
Speaker 1 Y'all can just pretend I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 The baseline song is a forno shit.
Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass.
Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
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Speaker 1 and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
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Speaker 1 Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 Daylight saving.
Speaker 1 Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 No, this is the good one because we get an hour.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 unless you got a three-year-old, that's not gonna wake up at 5
Speaker 1 a.m.
Speaker 1 We get an extra hour. That's an extra hour in the strip club tonight.
Speaker 1
What y'all doing this weekend? Since we talked about daylight savings, what y'all on? What y'all on? What y'all on out there? I'm in Chicago. All right.
Shout out to the shots. Shout out to the shots.
Speaker 1 Quick stop in the shot. All right, all right.
Speaker 1 Halloween party. That's it.
Speaker 1
All right. this is gonna be shy.
Uh, that's it.
Speaker 1
I'm traveling. I'll tell y'all later.
Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 2 Damona, I'm getting paid to shake my ass to stand on the couch.
Speaker 1 Ready, get ready,
Speaker 1 ready. Let's get that screen record ready.
Speaker 1 Got it.
Speaker 1 I'm not doing too much, man. I'll be spending some time with my youngest.
Speaker 1 Might drop him off at around 11.
Speaker 1 Hey,
Speaker 1 Where's the
Speaker 1
music in the air and not so loving everywhere? So give me the 11. Y'all are down, man.
Hopefully, y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Speaker 1
Shout out to the parents out there. Shout out to the kids out there.
Everybody that dressed up for Halloween.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Chef Kino and Chef Edith chefing it up for us.
Speaker 1 Chefing it up for us on Halloween.
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