Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)

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Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. Oh, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1 This This is where the magic happens at

Speaker 1 Paul Nintendo. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Oh, shit.
Yeah. That was dope.
Don't go by mistake.

Speaker 1 This is where the magic happens. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Huh? And my boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got welcome back. Fuck back talking about.
I'm about to say a little welcome back.

Speaker 1 Isn't it? Isn't it? Cheers. Isn't it a cut? Isn't it a cut for my boy? I got my boy back with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Ready now.
Yeah. Go to any block now.
Any block.

Speaker 1 You know how it is.

Speaker 1 You get your guy back. I go to any project now.
What's up, man? Take some time, my man. Take some now.
How do you see you, my boy?

Speaker 1 We love you, nigga.

Speaker 1 And then Mark coming in the cover.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my girl, Mel here with us in spirit. Always.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mel. Which is dope for the fight.
Mel's spirit. That's fly.

Speaker 1 For the fight. I got it.
Flight. I'm just saying for the fight.
Like when we go to the block.

Speaker 1 They got her spirit. Better to have her spirit.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Is there a way to fix that? Dog. Duck.

Speaker 1 I think he's being funny. Talking about somebody.
He's flung. Police.
He punched on. Police.

Speaker 1 Get off of it. I don't see you, nigga.
How you feel to be back? A man up in this piece. I'm good.
She means quiet.

Speaker 1 Yo, don't do that, y'all. Shit in, buddy.
Nah, I'm not to be here, but not today. How you feeling, my nigga? Don't do that, man, of

Speaker 1 few words shit today, buddy. Yeah, don't start there.

Speaker 1 Use as many words with me as you use with Mouse Jones, nigga. Talk.
Oh, shit. The same amount of words.
I did a word count. Nigga, talk with me.

Speaker 1 I'm still a word count with Mouse Jones. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I just been up here not shooting at nobody.

Speaker 1 I just been up here like being reactive to hobbies. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Just giving bullshit bullshit takes to topics.

Speaker 1 I ain't had nobody to just randomly shoot at me. Yeah.
I've been letting fucking Mark been shining up here. Uh-huh.
But I can't shoot it, niggas. Yeah.
Come on, man. My man's back now.
You back now.

Speaker 1 We back. We miss you, nigga.

Speaker 1 Act like you. We missed him, nigga.

Speaker 1 Likewise. We love you.
Actually,

Speaker 1 likewise. I said, likewise.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 Came in with the fresh shapey. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Cleaned up nice. What you thought? What you thought? Drift in on him left, Larry.

Speaker 1 He ain't no place ever to lift me.

Speaker 1 I love you, nigga. Nigga, walking back.
He's a jukebox. He don't say I love you back, but we love you.
That foot is wrapped up. Yeah.
Ain't stopped nothing. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Nigga moving out here like, he moving out here like he clips. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 He clips. You don't know who he clips?

Speaker 1 Yes, nigga. Don't look.
No, I ain't saying he cats.

Speaker 1 It's a cat. Oh, yeah.
He was the man.

Speaker 1 He was a thug. We happy to see you, Ish.
Likewise, my brother. How do you feel, man? You had the surgery? Went all the way.
You flew out to get the

Speaker 1 I'm good actually. I thought it would have I would have been in way more pain, but ain't really it ain't really hurt like on a you know how they say grade your pain on a one to ten.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't think I ever really went over a five. Oh, yeah, you know, from start to finish.
Even y'all seen me when the shit happened, I was still laughing, cracking jokes, and all that shit.

Speaker 1 Niggas like, no, you couldn't have definitely tore your shit.

Speaker 1 You being too silly. Usually niggas that usually say, dog, niggas be calling the ambulance and being a different type of pain.
Well, you've been shot before too. Yeah, and nigga.

Speaker 1 And that's that good insurance he got.

Speaker 1 They ain't gonna let that pain get butts on. And niggas with your past that, you know, that knock anything down.
Y'all niggas got no heart. You ain't got no tolerance.
Nigga, you got pain tolerance.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you can knock niggas, niggas' wives, niggas, sister. You don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Your heart not there. You don't give a shit.

Speaker 1 You don't give a shit. Back in the day.
Yeah. Where did this come from?

Speaker 1 Back in the day, right? Niggas a nutcase, bro.

Speaker 1 He didn't give a fuck. Look at him.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 Look at him, look. That's not true, though.
I'm good, though. though.
Thank you. Look at those eyes, yo.
Look at me the eyes. No, and he was slimmer back then.
Hey.

Speaker 1 Really body shaming. It's just a bad thing.

Speaker 1 He's injured. He's injured.
Are you kidding me? How do you expect him to be able to get a game? How long has it been going? Two weeks? How do you expect him to get in the gym?

Speaker 1 Like this. I'm in the gym.
This is the pod gym. When you miss a few episodes, yo, I don't know why.
Nobody picked up on that one yet. You got to exercise.
Nobody picked up on that one.

Speaker 1 You got to come back in shape. If there's ever a time where you miss one, don't let it be two or more episodes.
When you get back,

Speaker 1 surprise, surprise,

Speaker 1 jokes on you, buddy.

Speaker 1 The whole way through.

Speaker 1 Niggas had to hold and tuck them jokes. Yeah, come on.
Body shaming is in. Everything is in.
Everything is in. You're crazy.
My man is back. Have you been doing a lot of candy to deal with the pain?

Speaker 1 Sarah.

Speaker 1 No candy.

Speaker 1 Nigga, triceps is strong.

Speaker 1 You've been holding yourself up, huh? Oh, yeah, you got to get strong. Oh, yeah.
Nah, shit different. Yeah, I know.
Welcome, nigga. Lose weight.
It's annoying. Lose weight.

Speaker 1 I'm down with you.

Speaker 1 I'm in the gym. Let's do it.
Can't get up and snack somewhere. Oh, it's annoying.
I ain't even gonna joke too much on your shit because I do know that it's, I'm sure it's.

Speaker 1 Nah, you know what it is, yo? It makes you feel helpless. I bet.
Like, so mental. Fuck the physical part.
Yeah. The mental part is more.
Have you considered going shopping for a sweet-ass cane?

Speaker 1 What? Fuck no. Cane ain't gonna help you? Why?

Speaker 1 At some point, you're gonna need a cane. It ain't enough.

Speaker 1 You could get a single shit. Crushes all my motherfucking bins.
I got bins. That's true.

Speaker 1 Eventually,

Speaker 1 man. About to put it in.
Put some brims on my shit.

Speaker 1 Be popping out here. Are you going to trick your shit out? And I'm going to put a whites on your shit.
I'm going to order the bag.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. You're going with the back.
A little saddlebag. You got no shorts, man.
For what? Dog, I came in this bitch today with four waters. That shit almost killed me outside.

Speaker 1 Now I'm going to put them in my bag.

Speaker 1 Bet ain't off because you're injured. No, it's not.
Bet ain't off because you're injured.

Speaker 1 He killed some time.

Speaker 1 He was here for two weeks, nigga. He killed some time, but you know, now we can.

Speaker 1 Why don't you just use Amazon or whatever some water's here?

Speaker 1 That's not our part of that.

Speaker 1 That's not the best. Can't do that.

Speaker 1 You got to bring water every time he bring water. Yeah, that's cool, though.
But that water, you know, them shit's heavy. Yeah.
So I'm on the crutches. And you got to help, man.

Speaker 1 You got to help because wifey listens to the joints, and she makes sure, yeah, yo, I'm going to get your water.

Speaker 1 I put it on the counter for you. I put it on your little willie.
Put a black keys on top of the water, nigga. You got them salad water.
I like that. How long they think you're going to be like this?

Speaker 1 You need an intern.

Speaker 1 I go to the physical therapist next week for this. Hopefully I could get this off.
Remember, I had the boot. I wasn't supposed to have the boot.

Speaker 1 The first doctor I went to was on some goofy shit. So I wasn't supposed to have the boot.
I was supposed to have this. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Pitch the right way and all that to promote the healing. Because your foot's supposed to be.
Your foot's supposed to literally be like you stepping on the gas.

Speaker 1 Because it's bringing your tendon back up to touch each other. That nigga had me like this.

Speaker 1 Straight. You know what I'm saying? Which is counterproductive.
And they said that the scar tissue and all that shit have started forming. You could be walk fucked up for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 So we're not doing that. So it's fixed now, right? It's being done the right way.
Yeah. Because honestly, I didn't care about all of that shit.

Speaker 1 Anyway, bro, yo, the boot, the boot is like four months. I'll probably be on the boot for four months.
Being done, thanks. Yeah, yeah, I'll be done.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to hear your testimony.

Speaker 1 It's an idiot, bro.

Speaker 1 He's an idiot. Oh, shit.
I'm I'm so happy as it's been. Like, word.
Life. Man, happy for four months, though.
Happy as shit.

Speaker 1 Four months, roughly. Got it.
Oh, right in time for the summer. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, hey.

Speaker 1 You ain't fooling nobody, nigga.

Speaker 1 Yo, what's wrong with y'all? Us. Us.
Yeah, you're right. Y'all, you're right.
Niggas turn everything into some bullshit. I heard the clip.
Yo, yeah, word. You went to L.A.? Oh, word.

Speaker 1 Oh, you went to the bottom. You went to surgery, huh? We looked up.

Speaker 1 Looked up what? The doctor? Yes.

Speaker 1 You niggas got a a mental problem, bro.

Speaker 1 Hey, what the hell? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not ready over here. Y'all do what y'all want to do.

Speaker 1 The phone lock and just be forgetting everything. You got the doc doing that shit.
Doc and shade working together.

Speaker 1 Lock his phone out. The mental ass.

Speaker 1 Fucking Godie.

Speaker 1 We happy to see you, man. Yeah, it worked.
Thank you, man. Damn, son.
I know. Hey, it's cool.
You be looking up with the nice doctors.

Speaker 1 Were you cracking jokes? Did you give the doctor a nickname? Hey, Doc E. Huh? Doc E.
Something wrong with you. Did you get the Aaron Rodgers shit? Yeah.
So it's like some

Speaker 1 minimal. Yeah, yeah.
Small shit, like a little couple holes, screws, and they pull it up through and pull it down. Oh.

Speaker 1 Did that deer antler spray? That's next.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with this Bray Lewis shit? Deer antler spray? Yeah, man. I'm going to get you right.

Speaker 1 Got it. Oh, you didn't forget how to pod, right?

Speaker 1 As long as you can get

Speaker 1 poquito.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Poquito. Come back speaking Spanish.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was in California, so that makes sense. Yeah.
Yeah, it's up. I ain't outside out there, y'all.
I know.

Speaker 1 I know. Nah, not at all.
I'm skipping. Not in LA.
Niggas crazy.

Speaker 1 Anyway, a lot going on. What I missed.
I don't know. What did you miss since you've been gone? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What has happened differently since Isha's been gone? Not a whole lot.

Speaker 1 Not really. Business as usual.
Nigga, we out here moving, man. We just waiting.
Nigga, we kept the seat warm for you to come back. That's it.
Enough happen. You ain't missed shit.
Phillip.

Speaker 1 They forced me to be that guy. They forced me to be that guy.
I didn't want to look this way, but

Speaker 1 I quit smoking. You did it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, huh? I quit smoking, man.

Speaker 1 I hate that guy. No, um, no, uh.
I hate the guy that just walks in the middle of the prom, walks up by the fucking punch, and just does that.

Speaker 1 I really, that, I despise. fine.
How many days you want?

Speaker 1 This is week two or three. That's good, nigga.
Fuck that. You know, it was week two or three.
Breathing and shit. Some stamina.
Breathing. I spoke to your mother.
It's Tony. So

Speaker 1 you and Corey? I bought you some, what you're going to call it?

Speaker 1 Patches? Mullen leaf. Oh.
Ah, the old Mullen Leaf leaf. Mullin leaf, real good for you.
But I gave it away, but I'll buy you some.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 But I bought it. That's some bullshit.

Speaker 1 No, I told you I was buying it. You busted a little bit of shit.
You gave my shit away to somebody else's shit. No, no, let me tell you what.
Don't skip a beat. No, look.
You don't skip a beat.

Speaker 1 I want to hear this. Don't let it run.

Speaker 1 I bought the mullein leaf. For Joe.
For Joe. And only Joe.
Yeah. Okay.
Then Danny called.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa. Say yo, man.

Speaker 1 Mullen leaf, yo. Yeah, yo.
I'm laughing at that. Lungs a little off.
No, and then my godfather, I told y'all he was having some issues and some surgeries and all that shit.

Speaker 1 So I gave it to him to make him the phlegm out his lungs and all that.

Speaker 1 So I was just like, yo, I'll replace it and buy Joe another one. So did you replace it and buy Joe another one? No.
You can't do it. Not yet.
Yeah, not yet. Now it's Amazon.

Speaker 1 Park tried to get you an out. I did.
Yo. Good.
All God does is fucking play tricks on me. See, he does that and they force you to have to care about his godfather.

Speaker 1 Yo, what's wrong with you, Aki? What's wrong with you? This nigga's a nut ball.

Speaker 1 Like when he put it that way, it's like, you're good.

Speaker 1 You're good, dog. But I got you.
In my head, all I heard was I gave it away.

Speaker 1 Gave your shit away to somebody.

Speaker 1 Call him up.

Speaker 1 All right, no, I'm joking. I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.

Speaker 1 Coming to repo the pills. Yeah, oh, yes, toxic jokes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 Oh, I feel so good. All right.

Speaker 1 My phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But y'all keep fucking talking when I'm talking about it.
Get up the grizzly head.

Speaker 1 Get out of there. Oh, you in my phone? Yeah, your shit lit.
You're in my phone. This shit like the tunnel in 06.

Speaker 1 Yeah, chill. This shit go through mad shit than this.
There's hills in it. No,

Speaker 1 he just

Speaker 1 fucking up. All right, I'm ready.
Come on.

Speaker 2 If you go to the doctor and you say you're depressed, they always ask, have you thought about killing yourself? Right? They always have to ask that. But they don't ask anything after.

Speaker 2 If you say no, they just go on to the next question.

Speaker 2 They just go, oh, do you have any allergies?

Speaker 2 That's it. You don't care about anything else? And I was like, What would happen if they asked one more question?

Speaker 2 What if they asked, Have you thought about murder?

Speaker 2 Have you thought about killing yourself?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Have you thought about killing someone else?

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 2 I have a list

Speaker 1 and I have school tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I sit alone in my four quarter rooms, damn it and candy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't know you was going there.

Speaker 1 At night, I can't sleep. I toss some target.
Candlesticks in the dark. Visions of bodies being burned.
Four walls just staring at a nigga. I'm paranoid sleeping with my finger on my chest.

Speaker 1 My mother's always dressing I ain't living right.

Speaker 1 But I ain't going out without a fight.

Speaker 1 Every time my eyes close, I start sweating, and blood starts coming out my nose. Right, check what, chill, what, chill, what up, what up, what up out there?

Speaker 1 But I don't know who it is, so I'm watching my back.

Speaker 1 And when I leap in the colours, when I awake, I don't see the motherfucker. He holds a black hat like I own.

Speaker 1 A black suit and a cane like my own. Somebody say, take a chill.

Speaker 1 Fuck that shit. There's a nigga trying to kill me.

Speaker 1 I'm puffing in the grip when the wind blows. Every 20 seconds got me peeping out my

Speaker 1 Investigating a joint for traps. Oh, it feels good.
Checking my telephone for tests. Feels so good.
I'm staring at the warnings. So happy to be here with y'all today.

Speaker 1 When you block out

Speaker 1 the ball, nigga.

Speaker 1 I make big money, I drive big cars. Everybody breaks.
All right for the ladies, all right for the ladies.

Speaker 1 late at night. Shout out to the dope boys and the dope girls out there.

Speaker 1 I was scared of a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Happy weekend out there!

Speaker 1 Yes, sir!

Speaker 1 Shout out to all entrepreneurs out there, all the podcasters out there!

Speaker 1 I went back to school,

Speaker 1 date back 22 years ago to keep it on track.

Speaker 1 A child on the 8th of October, my toast. When my granddaddy came sober, count all the fingers and the toes.
Now I suppose you'll make a little black boy grow.

Speaker 1 No matter where you're listening from out there,

Speaker 1 big jersey, big jersey.

Speaker 1 Let's name a pam, same father as the first one. She told me about the mother responsible play.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Daddy Body, we lost recently.

Speaker 1 On your side while the baby maker slides.

Speaker 1 The youngest of Bob gets hung here. All the truck drivers out there, all the boats are working out there.

Speaker 1 All the teachers out there.

Speaker 1 Listen.

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Speaker 1 All the lawyers out there, doctors out there.

Speaker 1 All All the parents out there,

Speaker 1 what up, what up, what up, what up?

Speaker 1 Well, that thing back, hey.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 let's start with some hip-hop.

Speaker 1 Starting with some hip-hop,

Speaker 1 microphone check one, two, one, two, one, two.

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Speaker 1 Yes, sir. Let me get these drops out the way real quick.

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Speaker 1 Flip, flip, flip, flip. Again, shout out to our sister Mel here with us in spirit.
Always.

Speaker 1 What episode is this? 8-10. Welcome to episode 810 of the Joe Button Podcast.
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Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here, fully dressed, smoke-free host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people. To my right,

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Speaker 1 I'm here, nigga. I'm here.
To his right.

Speaker 1 There we go.

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Speaker 1 Mr. Thousand Doors himself.

Speaker 1 Happy Robin, everybody out there.

Speaker 1 You might know him.

Speaker 1 Might know him as whatever fake name he gave you in the club that night. Hey.

Speaker 1 My gnome is in.

Speaker 1 We're so happy to have him back, man.

Speaker 1 Feeling good, feeling great.

Speaker 1 If you listen out there, please make some noise.

Speaker 1 Well, brother, hey.

Speaker 1 Maze, come on, man. Come on, man, man, man.
There we go.

Speaker 1 I just want the hook, buddy. Come on, where are we at?

Speaker 1 All right, there's too much going on.

Speaker 1 I don't know, man. What's it there? Right there.

Speaker 1 She chilled.

Speaker 1 We need you.

Speaker 1 We need to hit it. We fucking need you hit.

Speaker 1 How do you like that song in your room?

Speaker 1 All right, nigga. You ain't all that.

Speaker 1 All right. You ain't.
You cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are. You cool.
All right.

Speaker 1 Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Speaker 1 Welcome back, bro. Big Freeze is in the building.
Freeziest of them all. Brother Ice missed to take it further.
Don't make them do it. You got the hoodie, too.
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm always going to get the hoodie. Hey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What you think, expert? Checking your material out. Oh, some things just don't change.
He's right back. He didn't miss a beat.

Speaker 1 Right at it. He didn't miss a beat on his part.
I'm just feeling it. Pause.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Give me some feedback. I'm cool.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. Shady, shady.

Speaker 1 I ain't say nothing shady. That's after the man.
That's open to interpretation. So that's when you don't say nothing.
It's shady. Yeah, Yeah, man, all that shit's not kind of shady to be.

Speaker 1 My mama said, hey, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
She's stupid. It's cool, though.
I spoke to my mama yesterday, so play with me if you want. You and Corey today.
Wow. Hey, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's my people's. Hey, it could be your people's all you want.
Say the wrong thing to me, and it won't be no collar greens.

Speaker 1 Say it. Sorry.
No. Sorry.
Say the wrong thing to me.

Speaker 1 It won't be no turkey wings. Are you worried about all your shoes being fucked up because one foot's going to be worn and the other one's not?

Speaker 1 Yo, I was coming up the stairs the other day and scraped the shit out of my sneak going up. I'm like,

Speaker 1 you get a one good foot. So now the right is gonna be fucked up and the left is gonna be ruining the box.
This is some bullshit.

Speaker 1 What's most annoying about this, just looking at your shit being wrapped up, is thinking of being about to shower and then them telling me to go get a fucking glad garbage bag.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with the bag on it.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. They gotta fly new shit now.
What they got?

Speaker 1 Some vacuum seal shit? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, good. And the shit come up the light.
Somebody recognized that that glad

Speaker 1 was a mistake. It was a filthy rich.
Oh, you damn right. Put a glad bag with a f on it.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's mad. No part, you can't really get your, you know what I mean? You can't get your shit in no more.
What's your in what?

Speaker 1 You can't get busy. Oh, it's blowjob central.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I ain't saying nothing. That's bad.
What? Blowjobs? No, I wasn't saying blowjobs are bad. I'm just saying that you're not.

Speaker 1 I'm saying it's great to be in a position of, hey, I'm handicapped for a few months. You blow, you blow things.
I lie about the handicapped.

Speaker 1 I'll be in the relationship lying my ass, like, oh, I'm on my legs. Charlie Hart, you got to get on top.
Oh, my legs, man, my knees. Get on top.
Yeah, you do it. You do it.

Speaker 1 There you go. Little couch action.

Speaker 1 And look where your brain is during the injury.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, all you got to do to get Filthy Rich out there is change the world. That vacuum seal shit is a great one.
What's wrong? Yeah, it's well.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But

Speaker 1 that garbage bag shit. That was trash.
That wasn't it at all.

Speaker 1 Oh, Parks is here.

Speaker 1 I finished.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys.

Speaker 1 Elmira's fighting. This Poe is here.
Corey is here.

Speaker 1 Keeb is here. Ian is here, maybe.
I don't know. Erickson is here.
Savon and Tan are here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
How's everybody doing?

Speaker 1 How's everybody feeling? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Feeling good. Feeling great, great, man.
Great, great. All right, good.

Speaker 1 You're not telling me it's been an hour since I started. No, no, no.
Okay, no. I'm about to say,

Speaker 1 have I lost all perception of time? No.

Speaker 1 It's a Friday,

Speaker 1 my baby man. Wherever y'all want to start.
Anywhere y'all want to start.

Speaker 1 Anywhere in the world. I'm down to do it.
Listen. Until you get to the gang stuff.
I mean, my trouble. Once we get to the gang topic,

Speaker 1 I'm telling y'all now, I'm tapping out. After 10 years in this, I don't feel like that has to be in my ministry.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like I have to come in here and cover the gang stuff for you guys. When Lisa Evers does it, I'll find out about it.
When y'all tell me about it, I'll find out about it. And tune in,

Speaker 1 unless y'all, y'all can do it when we get there. Y'all, who? Besides me being a disruptor up here, there's been some disruption elsewhere.

Speaker 1 You know, just hilarious in the breakfast club. You know, things be going on up there.
It's been a little bit messy.

Speaker 1 And I just want the

Speaker 1 public. She's messy in public.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 messy in public. Very, very messy.
I mean, they capitalize. You know what I'm saying? They capitalizing off and I think it's dope.

Speaker 1 You know, know, something that we should practice up here when it comes to me. When I blow up, let's just capitalize.
You know, you took a page out of your book, came up with that.

Speaker 1 They killing this shit. Segativity highlighting came up.
I ain't going to hold you. I was on Hayden a little bit.
Yeah, but they body. A little bit of it.
They body that shit. What?

Speaker 1 They are bodying that shit. What ish? We in a content game, my nigga.
They are bodying it. Yeah.
Yo, a part of this gig is being box office.

Speaker 1 We dinosaurs in that. Yeah.
That's really what it is. I say it all the time.
A part of this is being box office.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's one thing for fans and just an audience to speculate about what's going on somewhere.

Speaker 1 It's totally different for one of them people to get home and eat a little bit

Speaker 1 and get the freeze.

Speaker 1 Cut up the night. Maybe they have a smoothie.

Speaker 1 Or something.

Speaker 1 Have a little bit of free time on your hand. House clean.
I mean, nothing.

Speaker 1 Nothing to do there. Ain't nothing on tonight.
Yeah, yeah, kids sleep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No awards, no Grammys, no nothing. And just look over, see their phone right there, fully charged.

Speaker 1 Good camera. Good camera.
Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 Five bars.

Speaker 1 Scumbo. Scumbo.
5G. What's the good one?

Speaker 1 G-T-E. I don't even know the good one.
You see. 4K, whatever that shit is saying up there.
Whoa, and then they just grab their phone and say,

Speaker 1 you know what?

Speaker 1 Go live. I'm gonna let them have it.
I'm gonna fucking let these fucking strangers know what's going on. It's some two words.
And what's been happening? Some two words.

Speaker 1 Golive. I'm going to go totally off script for this one tonight.
Tell all my business. That was looking like that good.
That was looking like that shit reminded me of the good tequila nights.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. That shit was like,

Speaker 1 you just be like, you know what? Today's the last day I'm putting up with this shit. Tired of that bitch.

Speaker 1 Tired of that bitch. So a part of me is there with it.

Speaker 1 A part of me is there with it. Nigga, you know how happy I was? I think that shit happened right after the pod.
It wasn't. Like pod day.

Speaker 1 Right after. Yo,

Speaker 1 nothing gets me more excited than as soon as pod day is over,

Speaker 1 the next work day is done. Yeah, exactly.
It's the greatest. By the time I get home, it's news hot on the shit.
Are you shitting me? Nigga, I'm right to my topic list.

Speaker 1 Jess said this, Jess did this. I'm about to say shit.
It gave you

Speaker 1 a lot of stuff. They said that.
listen,

Speaker 1 Jess did such an amazing job being the messiest nigga I've ever seen in my life that I went to bed

Speaker 1 content,

Speaker 1 happy. Not me, not me.
I went to bed and was like, yo. No, you bugging.
I got enough from that. Shit.
I went to bed like, all right, I'm getting up early.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to FM radio for the first time in years.

Speaker 1 Right to 105. I was so complete.
Now, fuck that. But then I woke up and

Speaker 1 I picked up my phone. I seen the energy out there.
I seen a few clips, dog, getting, I said, who's some breakfast?

Speaker 1 What breakfast? Wait, what? It's the most important meal of the day.

Speaker 1 Wait, you're not, no, you lying. Because God got a good sense of humor.
You're not telling me that this bitch did all that last night and came to work.

Speaker 1 Work.

Speaker 1 I was a gangster.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is some of the greatest theater. Well, that's when you sleep it off.
For me, this was some of the greatest theater we've seen in a while. She woke up and got dressed.

Speaker 1 Talk about Black Air Force One energy. Early.

Speaker 1 Oh, and y'all got to be there early. Madder.
Mad ass. So you there at 5 a.m., 5:30.
Shit, might not be.

Speaker 1 No, you ain't sleeping. You hit a nigga.
You already already hot. I ain't sleeping.
I'm hitting a nigga. And what?

Speaker 1 I'm here. You walked in and what? I'm here.

Speaker 1 Sit down like nothing happened.

Speaker 1 That's gangster. And came in there to my corporate job with just a Baltimore understanding of things.
That's what I'd say. That's that B-more shit.

Speaker 1 That's my other favorite. Yo, there's so many components here that are great and fun.

Speaker 1 A lot that are not so great and fun. So where do y'all want to start in that? Started the live.
Started with

Speaker 1 her.

Speaker 1 Telling her story.

Speaker 1 So we all know that that she was out of work for some time.

Speaker 1 And as a result,

Speaker 1 as per her, she referred another young lady to fill in in her stead. She was pregnant, yeah.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 the other young lady came in, and now allegedly, the radio station told her that this is what we doing. This is a temporary thing.
She a producer.

Speaker 1 When she came back,

Speaker 1 it was four mics.

Speaker 1 And now Shorty done robbed her of her segment, allegedly and wouldn't shut the fuck up. That's the gist that I got out of it.
Just had a problem with that. And

Speaker 1 perception out there was,

Speaker 1 oh, we kind of like her. She's killing.

Speaker 1 She's in the solution.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm in the comments. I'm reading the comments while I'm away.
I'm away having a baby. I picked this person.
Y'all pitting two black women against each other. It was loaded.

Speaker 1 It was one where the mistake happened. Yep.
Read the comments. Reading the comments.
Paying too much damn attention to them comments.

Speaker 1 I read that, but here's my problem with that. I got you.
Jess comes from social media, media, being a media personality. And comments engagement is what fuels us.
You are no longer on social media.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on, hold on. When you become used to that, you guys come from that where there's no comments.
My space, yeah, don't come from that. That's not true at all.

Speaker 1 We come from where there's no comments. We come from comments, but back in the days.
They were in the middle of the day. Back in the days, what type of comments?

Speaker 1 Nigga, we had to read it in the newspaper. We read it in the double XL.
We saw saw that. I'm talking about when he's

Speaker 1 listening, MySpace is shit. It wasn't like that.
It wasn't as engaging and as quick

Speaker 1 as it is now. Niggas had flip phones and motherfucking Next Tales when he was popping how he came up.
I'm talking about how you came up. I'm not talking about being in media.
We have been.

Speaker 1 What I'm trying to tell you is that the young lady come from that.

Speaker 1 Engaging in the comments when you come from that, same thing with me, you become used to reading it and taking criticism from your audience

Speaker 1 in order to say, like, what I'm going to do next. It helps you.
It fuels you. That's dope if your business that you're using the comments for are on social media, right?

Speaker 1 If you're a social media personality, you might listen to the comments. She's not anymore.
She is a radio broadcast personality. She's 33 years old.
And for me, I say it a lot on here.

Speaker 1 That's not an excuse for me. You don't behave like where you come from.
You behave like where you're going. That too.
Easier said than done, but I understand.

Speaker 1 Easier said than done. Well, a lot of people say that.
Easier said than done.

Speaker 1 Like a walking t-shirt. That just happens a lot

Speaker 1 because flip often in times of these conversations goes to where we come from.

Speaker 1 True. All right, cool.

Speaker 1 Cool, we come from that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 so I don't know.

Speaker 1 But niggas throw you out in the fucking middle of the ocean and say, expect you to learn how to swim. There's steps to becoming a swimmer.
There's steps to adjusting to the media to what's going on.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Same thing.
I can use myself as an example, but I wouldn't. It's just steps.
It's not as easy when you're accustomed of doing things one way.

Speaker 1 If she's accustomed of going to the comments and saying, yo, my popularity or my credibility relies on this, that's what you're used to. It just takes steps.

Speaker 1 It's not as easy as you guys make it think. Yeah, but it's not as easy.
The difference is

Speaker 1 she's also used to being one of the people

Speaker 1 talking shit online. About people.
So

Speaker 1 if you come from that, you kind of got, you already have a built-in understanding of how that shit works. Not true, Ice.
It sounds good in theory. That's not true.
It is true. He's one of them.

Speaker 1 I'm one of them. And Ice takes a joke way worse than a bunch of us take them.
I'm talking about

Speaker 1 comet. That's not.
Exactly. But I'm talking about comic.
Hold up. Let me talk about it.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about giving power to comics. Who we ice friends?

Speaker 1 We love ICE.

Speaker 1 Ice don't take jokes well from us. He's gotten really great since you've been going.
He got better.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying. He's been lighting up.

Speaker 1 But you get my point. Yo, Ice knows that we love ICE.
I've been laying it on. We'll go to war with ICE.

Speaker 1 So So now, if he can't take a joke good from us, imagine what strangers might do in theory to ICE when he reading the shit. You understand what I'm saying? Now, let me give you the other side of that.

Speaker 1 I think that's so backwards, though. It is very backwards.
Let me give you the opposite. My friends are joking on me.
That's love to say.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Ish, let me, can I speak as the person you're speaking about?

Speaker 1 I give more of a fuck what y'all have to say than them.

Speaker 1 That's what the mentality before it was. That's what I'm getting from.
Bro, you're making a face. I'm telling you something.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I give more of a fuck what y'all have to say than them, which is why they've said way worse shit than has been said about me with the jokes up here. Since they, from, from, from forever.

Speaker 1 Also, we don't need to get caught here because Jess replied to this by saying,

Speaker 1 because she dismissed that notion. She was like, no, I just happen to think and feel the same way as some of the people that are online.
It's not me reading the comments and being affected by them.

Speaker 1 It's I feel like this and we got a savvy audience who's picking up on this shit and yeah, we agree. They're not influencing me.
This is how I already feel. She said that.
Gotcha. Okay.
I just want all

Speaker 1 parts of the argument to be represented here. So we don't need to get

Speaker 1 caught up right there. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 When I first heard her statement, I was rolling with her.

Speaker 1 I was agreeing with her.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, dog, again, even for us, we four years into this, I had to turn off the comments for myself because I don't be wanting to see that shit. That shit really will affect

Speaker 1 how you, it's a public perception, right? That somebody has of you that is totally wrong, right?

Speaker 1 And my nigga, we could say, yo, who gives a fuck what the public think? Who cares? Most people care, bro.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck how many, how tough niggas come in here and act like they don't give a fuck. Joe cares.
And Joe been doing this shit for 25 years in a public light.

Speaker 1 Joe will modify some shit predicated on what the comments say. We all do, we human beings, bro.

Speaker 1 You have that's not true. You have.
Slow down, slow down, show down, throw down the page. I don't think it's based off of the comments.

Speaker 1 I've heard Joe tell the part.

Speaker 1 I believe, and I've said it my own career, that a lot of that's market research. So you have to be able to read and filter.

Speaker 1 what you should be reading and what you shouldn't be reading. None of that shit, like has that other effect on me.
What's the other?

Speaker 1 Well, like I tell a story all the time, Stack Bundles couldn't read comments because he wanted to drive to people's houses and hurt them. I never feel like that.

Speaker 1 I never am angry at the things they say.

Speaker 1 Anybody different?

Speaker 1 And I understand it. Listen, the number one fear in the country for a while was speaking in public.

Speaker 1 So I make it akin to that. Like, is that like a deadly shark coming at you? No, but it's something that people were afraid of.
So, yes, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 For Jess,

Speaker 1 when you say it's not as easy as it sounds, the flip side to that for me could be it could be as easy as it sounds. You coming on a show that has been active for 15 years, 13 years,

Speaker 1 not only active, but probably somewhere around number one for most of the time that they've been there.

Speaker 1 Right, no matter what you think of them today,

Speaker 1 legacy is legacy here in what it is.

Speaker 1 So, if these people are telling you, like when Envy and Charlemagne are saying, hey, they kick my back in plenty of times, and I still got to come in here and do what I got to do.

Speaker 1 And Jess's response was, yeah, but that's how y'all carry it. That's not how I carry it.
She's missing the memo. She is.

Speaker 1 The memo right there is

Speaker 1 your ego and your pride and how you carry it comes secondary to the gift. I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 I'm totally in

Speaker 1 agreement with you. What I'm saying is, Envy and Charlemagne are 15, 20 years in.
It's because they both been on the radio pre-breakfast club, right?

Speaker 1 So it's like a veteran football player telling this young football player, yo, this is how you should carry it. You get to that level.

Speaker 1 You get to that level of thicker skin that she may not have right now at this point in her career. Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 Wait, but wait, because we still conflating things, and I want to be clear and concise in what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 Granted, I'm rolling with your theory. You ain't there yet.
This shit affects you, and it bothers you. I think that's okay.
Cool.

Speaker 1 Another line needs to be drawn before you get to the internet knowing it's okay.

Speaker 1 What you mean? Oh, true. Yeah, I agree with that.
We're talking about two different lines.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at her for feeling however she felt about comments.

Speaker 1 You just had a baby. This new girl is kind of ill.
Lauren is dope at

Speaker 1 what she's being asked to do the gig they're dope in different ways

Speaker 1 and they're women so i mean all right can we say it can we say it here we can say it where can we say it

Speaker 1 here you can say safe place is it safe to say today if we have a bleep button no say it the e-word no it's two checks and a

Speaker 1 they're gonna do it they're gonna do it

Speaker 1 like women hate each other yeah they're gonna do it this is where a sound effect would normally come in in a short sick i don't think it's that though but i'm listening it's it's about

Speaker 1 it happens a lot. It happens.
I'm not saying it's happening here, but you have to take that into account. That two women in the same place, two Kane corsos, you put them in the same cage.

Speaker 1 You got to take account for them. You do.
Two King lions.

Speaker 1 Also, I think Jess is mistaken. And again, this is me saying it.
I think she's mistaken in calling it her segment.

Speaker 1 Her whole thinking around her segment and I left and then y'all started giving the segment to Lauren

Speaker 1 to Lauren to do. I just follow her on Instagram.
Am I saying her name right? Lauren. Lauren.

Speaker 1 And then they start giving the segment to Lauren. And then when I get back to work, Lauren is still in the room.
I understand that.

Speaker 1 It's like you ask somebody to come over for a threesome and when y'all finish fucking that person's still there.

Speaker 1 I'm serious. It's the same exact thing.
So I get her looking at it funny. And she even addressed it in her clip.
She said, I see why Angela Yi didn't stay.

Speaker 1 The way that they handle shit up there, they just not, they just not, it's a lot of framing of shit be wrong.

Speaker 1 I don't get that. I'm gonna be honest

Speaker 1 because this is still business at the end of the day. No, that part, yeah, and it's not

Speaker 1 your company, it's not, you took the words out of my mouth, it's not your company. I think that that gets

Speaker 1 a lot, even but you can still feel away about how the people are conducting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, companies lie to you all the time, yeah, even about what's going on. But what I'm saying, but what I'm saying,

Speaker 1 about the direction they're going,

Speaker 1 well, yeah, that part. We've seen that happen in the middle of the day.
I think they told her one thing. Somebody, someone told her something.

Speaker 1 And I think that's where her biggest gripe was: yo, fam, y'all told me X. Cool.
I come back to work.

Speaker 1 Y'all still telling me X. If things have changed, let me know things have changed.
So now that I can move around, y'all telling me X. And

Speaker 1 I see why.

Speaker 1 But moving why. I see why.
That's the point I was making with the topics. Jess,

Speaker 1 that show has to have a seat, preferably a lady. A woman.

Speaker 1 To run through the hot topics and internet fodder and famous people

Speaker 1 shit. Gossip for loud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, it's the hot topic portion when she does it. Fucking answers.
Everybody

Speaker 1 knows where it comes from. You do it.
Yeah, I do it.

Speaker 1 I try to put a little nigga umph on it. But it's still the same.
Same shit.

Speaker 1 Jess with the mess

Speaker 1 was her IP that she created on Instagram that was done a certain way with some opinions. To her, it was a little more than just a run of the hot topics.
And the line is blurred again.

Speaker 1 Because Jess, whether you there or not,

Speaker 1 somebody has to sit there and run through hot topics. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whether we call it Nancy's name. Okay, whatever the fuck we call it.

Speaker 1 Word on the street. Yeah, yeah, whatever we call it.
You didn't need to get to combining IPs. Jess with the mess should have have been just with the mess away from the breakfast club.

Speaker 1 And whatever this topic segment is, then that needs to be that.

Speaker 1 And it also, listen, Lauren is really good, though. That too.
I didn't know about all her TMZ background and all that. That's always easy.
But it's still easy to look at her and listen to her.

Speaker 1 She could read.

Speaker 1 I'm seriously. That's true.
Because

Speaker 1 they put Jess in a position to where

Speaker 1 she was fucking up the shit

Speaker 1 because she wasn't reading

Speaker 1 with the fluidness, is all I'm saying. It's a fact.
It's not Joe saying it. So y'all have to look at me stupid.
No, no, I'm not. I'm just trying to listen to you.

Speaker 1 But see, that's where the mistake come in.

Speaker 1 Because if I'm suggesting somebody to hold it down while I'm going,

Speaker 1 I don't want to suggest nobody that's better at certain things than me. But why not? If you confidently, because that motherfucker might stick.
But that's the other thing where you just

Speaker 1 confident in what you're doing. You can suggest somebody.

Speaker 1 Better than me. All right, listen.
That's the other spot where control was the illusion. I'm putting somebody here as the company that's good no matter what.

Speaker 1 If you have a suggestion that will help, awesome. But you don't call this shot.

Speaker 1 It's a good point. Yeah.
It's a good point. Yeah.
But the company likes to be there. And she kept saying it.
But she kept saying, I'm the one that put her there. I'm the one.
No, baby. You did not.

Speaker 1 You are not the one. You are not the one.
Even if she was never on the radar. Yeah, you're not the one that did that.
You didn't pick. They still had to pick that.
You're right.

Speaker 1 but see she suggested her come on let's have the uncomfortable conversation no listen so the first day i'm pro-jess i'm i'm riding with how she explained it how she delivered it all of those things it just seemed like corporate doing some corporate shit so i was rocking with her the first day

Speaker 1 until the next day and then i was like that's when she went to work And when she went to work. And they all come from.

Speaker 1 Now you hear the other sides of the story because there's always other sides of the story.

Speaker 1 And now Envy is saying, fam, if you felt like that, that's cool.

Speaker 1 I spoke to you off camera and I told you that, let me know what you feel, and we're going to handle it because I fuck with you and I love you and I rock with you. I'm going to do what you say.

Speaker 1 If you don't want Shorty in here, She don't have to be in here.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing. Stop right there.
Highlight that shit. Yo, when somebody is coming to you and asking for honesty, sometimes, sometimes it's best to be honest.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like we live in a world too much. Our egos and our dick start.
Well, Well, not in her case, but

Speaker 1 our dick starts.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get you. Don't do that.
Stop. I'm serious about what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I don't know what you think about. I'm serious about what I'm saying.
You're not. That was the moment to say

Speaker 1 I don't want this young lady in the room while I'm here. What you talking about? This was pitched to me as the three of us.
Yes. And it should be the three of us.
She can get her great producing ass.

Speaker 1 to where she wants.

Speaker 1 I thought you were saying, speaking from the corporate side, to tell Jess that, no, Shorty is doing good, so she's going to stay in the room. That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 Envy said that he spoke. If I come to flip.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say, nigga, you're not going to find an easy way to deliver messages anyway. It's not about the messages.
It's just saying,

Speaker 1 if he says, yo, flip, be honest, tell me how you feel about up here. And you lie.
We do it to Mel all the time. We do it to Mel all the time.
Mel, you want to hire another girl?

Speaker 1 No. Hell no.
I don't want the thought of. Nah.
Mel, cut her eyes at a a bitch if she think she thinks you don't walk there.

Speaker 1 Mel, dead honest. No, don't hire a girl.
She ain't got to go further. True.
You know what?

Speaker 1 Now look, now imagine if Mel said, yeah, sure, hire another girl a little bit. And then we hired a girl.

Speaker 1 I'm with you.

Speaker 1 I thought you were speaking for another. I thought he was saying envying them.
You should have been honest to her in real time. No, no, no.
She should have been honest to them.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. Because Emmy said, yo, I pulled you to the side.
You my nigga, and I fuck with you.

Speaker 1 If, yo, if we have a conversation and some topics come up, and I'm like, flip, and I pull you to the side on the balcony and be like, Yo, dog, did that bother you? Do you mind when I speak on this?

Speaker 1 And you like, nah, I don't give a fuck, my nigga. And then feel the way.
And then when I come in here and start talking about that shit, you like, yo, that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 He be bringing my such and such into this. Like, yo, fam, I gave you an opportunity in which to say that you felt a certain way.

Speaker 1 So that's what they said. They said that, yo, they pulled her, was like, yo, dog, if you don't want her in the room, we'll make it to be with she not in the room.
You said, nah, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Because sometimes you want to be a little bit different. Because now Shorty's greatness is going to be here with you now.
Because sometimes you want to be a team player.

Speaker 1 You want to show that there's nothing that's bothering you. You want to care for morality.
You care about that because obviously it bothers me. But that's.

Speaker 1 Because now, if you say that, then it comes out that you said that you don't want this girl who was killing on there. How does that make you look at the end?

Speaker 1 How does it make you look at the team player? Yo, and that's the trick. To be a team player.
You got to be a team player. You have to be a team player.

Speaker 1 You can't trick greatness. You know what it takes to be great, being great.
So if you know that later on,

Speaker 1 actually that comes up today when I fucking do my quit smoking shit, I'm not smoking.

Speaker 1 Last time when I quit smoking and then I picked up again, I was sneaking to go smoke like I was tricking anybody but my own self and my own body.

Speaker 1 So now I don't do it because there is nobody to trick but you. You don't know when you can't breathe.
This ain't for nobody else. That ain't for nobody else.

Speaker 1 That's for, yo, if you know what's about to happen when this girl come work here full time, save it. Save yourself.
That's true.

Speaker 1 And this girl is good and this girl is attractive and she could read, and she got a background, and she's winning over public perception by just doing the job, and she's non-threatening, like could fit in.

Speaker 1 Like, she could work with three of y'all. She could work with four of y'all.
It's mad problems to have with this good-at-her-job-ass head-ass girl.

Speaker 1 If you're just being honest with yourself, that's true. Nigga, if you like, yo, now I don't care if Steph, come on.
Steph on Steph. When he get on the court, my nigga, Steph is going to Steph.

Speaker 1 And yo, that's why why y'all reacted to mark lamar when we in trip

Speaker 1 because that's me and Mark joke and I love that joke and y'all need to watch that clip

Speaker 1 y'all when I was like yo man think about Mark Lamar coming up

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 you keep forgetting the fact that earlier you was

Speaker 1 talking about yo Zaki y'all fry you up that is me and Mark Joke no earlier what you did that day earlier that day what you did what did you say about earlier that day and you were criticizing our work and that's bullshit hold on That's not what took place.

Speaker 1 It stopped. I'm just telling you what our joke is.
You was because we looked at that footage like that. Don't make the joke.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Did you see the footage? He's being

Speaker 1 there. I was seeing this footage.

Speaker 1 I was here. But did you see the footage? I went to watch that.
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I remember the moment. He criticized our work earlier today.
No, nigga, Joe was playing with our intelligence that day.

Speaker 1 Joe's playing with our intelligence saying, Y'all bringing Mark Lamont up here. Lamar Lamont, he'll here for y'all.

Speaker 1 You wasn't bringing him here for us.

Speaker 1 You were bringing him here for you.

Speaker 1 There is a very big difference. See, not to me.
We ain't had a week.

Speaker 1 What's for y'all is for me. True.

Speaker 1 But you said y'all.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. You said y'all bringing him up here to give y'all some relief so that each one of y'all could have a day off every day.
And me, and me.

Speaker 1 So that each one of y'all can have a day off every day. I forgot about that.
I forgot all about that shit. I didn't.

Speaker 1 We ain't got the days off, nigga. You must have forgot.
I did forget. So why we ain't got our days off? I keep because Mark is too great.
What that got to do with our days? See, I got you. I'm here.

Speaker 1 You don't have to do it. I'm Sprite.
I'm Sprite. I'm lively today.
He got you.

Speaker 1 He got you. You said you ain't forgetting.

Speaker 1 You ain't forgetting. You're going to pay your point.

Speaker 1 He's Sprite.

Speaker 1 He got you. He don't have me.

Speaker 1 I'm responding to the point.

Speaker 1 Initially, that was the thinking with Mark. Then that's what he liked to do, not accounting for thinking changing.
That's true. Okay, everybody gets a day off.

Speaker 1 When Mark got here, he was great at his gig

Speaker 1 with everybody that was here. Amazing, killed it.
So I just kept him. What that got to do with him? What does that got to do with that?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, I got him. He was too great.
I got him. Nobody gets a day off.
And he's so great. Look, look, look.
If Mark is so great, a tough decision to make.

Speaker 1 No, which I'm agreeing that Mark is amazing. But if Mark is so great, then when you give ICE a week off the first week,

Speaker 1 Mark is so great that we're not going to miss ICE. Then when you give Mel a day off the second week, Mark's filling in.
So we're not going to miss Mel. Then ish, then flip and go around the board.

Speaker 1 And that was was your premise. And you told me I couldn't get a dad.
You didn't get a dad. But that's not what happened.
He didn't get his dad.

Speaker 1 What happened is you insert a player that improved everybody and everything. So now you keep player in.
I don't understand. No, the play.
I don't understand. We're not talking about the player.

Speaker 1 We're talking about y'all.

Speaker 1 No, y'all are better when he is. So everybody in.

Speaker 1 That's bad to say. No, which means that your premise sucks, Kaka, because...
Maybe it did. Oh, all right.
Maybe it is. Your premise was phony.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't know Mark was going to come in and do that. Stop.
That's not true. I'm not listening.
There's no way you're going to say it. I did not know that Mark was going to do that.

Speaker 1 So, what you brought up in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to keep breaking the picture, but I did not think that Mark was going to be in the middle. What do that got to do with everybody in here getting their respective day off?

Speaker 1 I never said that. Wait, let me reply to you.
Because stupid me thought that everybody was already giving their best,

Speaker 1 which was a false premise.

Speaker 1 What do that have to do?

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Because we're not answering our question. I am.
You can't stay on this face.

Speaker 1 I know you're going to roll. You better roll.

Speaker 1 You better run. We can patriotize.
I think I got you. You don't.

Speaker 1 I think I got you.

Speaker 1 Bring this back to Patriot. I think I got you.
You can't stand here on this, nigga.

Speaker 1 I don't. He got you.
You want to? He definitely got you. If you want to.
I don't think he got me. You want to go? Y'all got a pomp.

Speaker 1 Your fuck out of here, Papa. Here you go with the boy.

Speaker 1 Your favorite uncle is back, nigga. Oh, I get it.
I get it. Your uncle is.
Your favorite uncle is up. I'm going to have you back too.
You know who you sound like. I'm going to have you back too.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to say it, but you know who you sound like now. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 That wasn't a low-blow.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Continue on. Let's continue.
Continue on.

Speaker 1 That was nasty. That was crazy, what he did.
No, you was you too, nigga. You, nigga.
That was crazy. Bad lady.

Speaker 1 You done told me.

Speaker 1 That was crazy. This nigga.
Impromptu.

Speaker 1 Joe is bugged out. Yo, you know.
You bugged out. I am, but he crazy.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're your boy.

Speaker 1 You special, my nigga. Dr.
Mark.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my nigga. You special.
But then close. My brain missed this type of gymnastics.

Speaker 1 Get your ass back to work, nigga. You miss it.

Speaker 1 Didn't close it, man. Praise everybody up there, man.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? We ain't nowhere near, bro.

Speaker 1 Hey, if you're tired of this, hit the 15-second button, buddy. A couple times.
Yeah, I'm staying right here.

Speaker 1 I ain't even throw the trick question out there. Oh, I didn't know there was more than that.
Because now, Charlotte. I thought she went up there and they squashed it.
No, Charlotte.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, hold on. I want to defend Charlamagne for a minute.

Speaker 1 And I seen, because you know, I don't really watch Charlie.

Speaker 1 Y'all are forcing me to defend Charlamagne. Charlamagne and Joe are really similar.

Speaker 1 Assholes.

Speaker 1 Try to turn everything to a joke. Seeing that.
Charlamagne kept trying to joke them out of the.

Speaker 1 That's producing. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 That's producing that whole time. Because that is the part where I was like, you know what? I'm forced to come to work.
and shoot Charlemagne some bail because maybe people just don't understand.

Speaker 1 But I didn't like people holding him to the fire for saying that he was gaslighting.

Speaker 1 I mean, even in the moment, Lauren did it to him, but she was like, yo, you keep laughing through it, but this is real shit that we never address because y'all get to laugh.

Speaker 1 And I understand that point. But I don't, for one second, think that Charlemagne was trying to make light of anything that was going on.

Speaker 1 I think the show was a little bit more. I think he was being a professional.
Yeah. I think he was being

Speaker 1 still a show. You're talking about somebody who has probably been in the most uncomfortable media moments in the past decade.
That's true. He had a bunch of them.
That is true. He got a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 He got a compilation of them. No, that's his list.
He's in the lead

Speaker 1 of uncomfortable media moments.

Speaker 1 I think this was another uncomfortable media moment, and we are watching a professional try to navigate through something

Speaker 1 that 1,000%. That I tried to work through before it got here.
That didn't work. So now we in the moment.
Let me just try to navigate that, right? And it was on his ass.

Speaker 1 I didn't appreciate that at all. I I felt like it was an attack on me.

Speaker 1 When I looked at him and all of the shit he was saying and all of the shit he was doing, you just kept coming to my brain. Like, that's some shit Joe would have done.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold you. It did make me understand you a little bit more.
No, that's the shit Joe would have done. But that's some shit.

Speaker 1 Without being in the situation. Yes, that's what I did.
It made me understand you a little bit more. I was like, that's some shit.

Speaker 1 But also, if you understand me, then you know that I tried to avoid us getting to this exact moment way before we got to this moment. That's true.
Which is what it looked like they did.

Speaker 1 And I could see something else when she said that

Speaker 1 Charlamagne texted her and was like, no, tell her, shut the fuck up. That's something you would have did.

Speaker 1 I thought that was great advice, too. It's not great advice because now that gets us to over here.

Speaker 1 Further. You know what I'm saying? Way further over here.
Again, Charlamagne's, and it's not wrong. Charlamagne's brain is the show is paramount before any of us.
That's how this should be. I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to. I want all

Speaker 1 fool against music, TV, broadcast, anything creative.

Speaker 1 The product should come before us. I'm not

Speaker 1 sure.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to get that. No, true.
No, listen.

Speaker 1 And the other side is, I'm not saying you're saying it, but anything other than that is a disagreement. True.
And that's a big problem.

Speaker 1 A whole bunch of money came into the content space. And now we're dealing with a whole bunch of just humans in the content space.

Speaker 1 But the content space used to be everybody saying the gig is the gig no no no so i saw joe in charlemagne when he like no that's some ian would have said no

Speaker 1 shut the up and we gonna rock with that right i saw that and i'm like yeah because he's putting the show first what you're not understanding though is these are human beings that may not view it from your lens because they not there yet And in that moment, you're not thinking this is a show.

Speaker 1 In the moment. She's not.
He is.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the people that. Yes.
Yes. You're not thinking show in that moment.
Yo, you know where it's okay to not think show. Home.

Speaker 1 Off the show.

Speaker 1 Off the show.

Speaker 1 Anywhere off the show you want to not think about the show, you can go do that. When you are here or not here, but you know,

Speaker 1 you are on company time. It is showtime.
You want art time. You are on the audience's time.
That's part of it. I've been home mad.

Speaker 1 That man, let me take that back because they hang on to my words literally. But I've been home jealous at these sports niggas.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm so jealous. Because I'm a competitor.
I want to compete.

Speaker 1 These sports niggas are turning.

Speaker 1 They are wilding out here.

Speaker 1 And by default, that means that fucking Cameron is wilding. Brandon Jennings, just

Speaker 1 talking on his show, was like, yo, you know what? Honestly, I'm better than everybody that came out in my draft class. I'm better than

Speaker 1 Ty Lord. I'm better than fucking Drew Holiday.
Line him up. I'm better than Jeff T.

Speaker 1 And I'm sitting there, whether he's supposed to say this stuff or not.

Speaker 1 Damn, that looks fun. I'm just watching the effects of him saying that.
That looks fun. And now look, everybody

Speaker 1 is.

Speaker 1 Now the show is in. It's joy.
It's a little different. And I'm looking like

Speaker 1 that's what's missing.

Speaker 1 People, that's just

Speaker 1 for the content. I don't give a fuck

Speaker 1 what the reply is. No, the inner space.

Speaker 1 How you looking at it. Looking at me.
Lace them up, nigga.

Speaker 1 We could prove this. I'm going to crack your fucking head.
Lace them up. Jeff T probably was like, you said who? You're missing the point, though.
Look, look. I get it.

Speaker 1 But wait, let me just say it for the people that may not. He don't have to know how to beat them three people in one-on-one.
He could lose. When Ty Law responded, and Ty Law was a beast.

Speaker 1 But when he responded, my first thought looking at the clip was,

Speaker 1 You'll never beat him at the content game.

Speaker 1 Because you just on there. Personal.
You just replying.

Speaker 1 You impersonal. You impersonal.
You scored 45 once.

Speaker 1 It just wasn't as saucy as Brandon saying whatever the fuck he said. I'm jealous of that shit.
I love it. Turn up.
Compete, compete, compete.

Speaker 1 Niggas is getting too busy out here, and I done ran out of all the names of the people's backs I like to kick in last decade. Now I'm fucking older, mature, fly with everybody.
Everybody's cool.

Speaker 1 I care about y'all's feelings and mental health. All that shit that didn't exist before.

Speaker 1 Now I'm coming in here just reacting to shit.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to shoot at him.

Speaker 1 Let's all shoot. No, nigga, let's all shoot.
You be wanting me to shoot. I ain't your pit bull, nigga.
I know, but you should be.

Speaker 1 But you should be. See, and that's the problem.
You're too much of your own man with dignity. As soon as I get somebody, that's my pit bull to come in here.

Speaker 1 No, he not.

Speaker 1 He's still trying to be his own man. He's a puppy pit, but.
He tried to be his own man. I need some of my own man.

Speaker 1 That's the problem.

Speaker 1 Everybody's their own man. So why don't you shoot yourself, nigga? Oh, shoot yourself.
Wait, I don't. Not no more.

Speaker 1 Not at the niggas you want to shoot at. Not at the niggas you want to shoot at.

Speaker 1 You shoot at niggas who won't shoot back.

Speaker 1 Go shoot at that.

Speaker 1 Go shoot at Jeff Tea. I got to remind him, nigga.
Joe Button won't shoot. He will shoot today.

Speaker 1 You'll shoot that nigga without guns. I'm not sure if Jeff Teag, though.
I know. Wait, I wouldn't

Speaker 1 shoot at Jeff Teague. No, I'm sure Brandon does too.
I'm talking, I'm making a comparison. Shoot at the Jeff Teague or the Steven Jackson or the Matt Barnes or the Gil in that arena.
You won't.

Speaker 1 You don't shoot no more like that. I can't and I wouldn't.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 The equivalent to Gilbert Arena

Speaker 1 in this space.

Speaker 1 You won't shoot at him.

Speaker 1 Not anymore.

Speaker 1 Pray, yeah. Our Father with art in heaven, hallowed in thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done.

Speaker 1 You won't trespass. Fucking hell.

Speaker 1 Let alone shoot. You won't trespass.
We going on that block. One, I want to start with.
First, I love you.

Speaker 1 I love him too. And you got the power to grow? I want to start with.
I love ish,

Speaker 1 and I like a refreshed, rejuvenated-ish that pushes me to be the best I can be. That to the side, you're right.
Thank you. Here we go.
You're right. Thank you.

Speaker 1 But I wouldn't and I won't

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I don't have a peer in the space.

Speaker 1 I don't have subjective. It's up to Fujay, huh? Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's subjective, though. Yeah.
It's not. It is.
It is. It's not.
It's not. It's not.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you. It's quantified.
I'm telling you, it's not. It's not.
It's not.

Speaker 1 Now, I want to say, rest in peace, combat, Jack. I feel like anybody black that's in this space doing it, we stand on his shoulders.
Sure. Yes.
That's a fact. I like that.
I start there.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, combat. You the neck, Pauls?

Speaker 1 Anything else?

Speaker 1 It's very different.

Speaker 1 So I don't, and I wouldn't because

Speaker 1 the people are building. I've been there.
I love these people. It's a whole new genre for everybody.
Everybody go crazy. But yo, get out of the black space because we're not urban.

Speaker 1 There are podcasts

Speaker 1 that they can talk. Yo, no,

Speaker 1 you talk. Shoot.
We talking about you shooting. We need a clip that say, bitch.

Speaker 1 We talking about you won't shoot.

Speaker 1 Yo, fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 No, nigga, we hot right here. All them white people you talking about.
I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 People that's hot at the table. You said out of the black space.
So you're right. They could be Filipino, whoever.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you at that table, then talk. But they're not talking.
No, no, no. No, no, no.
You said you were talking about that. And I'm not coming out to just start shooting at the cereal podcast.

Speaker 1 What do you think I look like? There's the art to this shit still. Spam.

Speaker 1 The cereal. No, I'm not coming in tomorrow to start shooting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Them niggas is, they the ones.
The fuck you talking about. I don't know what you're talking about.
So, what are you talking about? You can't fuck with them, nigga. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You said you at the top. You said you, you, they not your peer.

Speaker 1 So coming here to grow the crusade against

Speaker 1 her daddy. Let me add that on to that.

Speaker 1 Let me add on to that. Let me add to it.

Speaker 1 My peers, we don't behave that way.

Speaker 1 We don't behave that way.

Speaker 1 We don't behave.

Speaker 1 What song is that?

Speaker 1 What song is that? We don't behave that way. I need to find a fine assistant.
That's when you win, when you win the game word. One of the perks you get is,

Speaker 1 you don't have to. I know, I know.

Speaker 1 talk continue to shoot at the niggas without guns and play it safe. That's all.

Speaker 1 I mean, he'll shoot. I don't even think I'd be shooting at my...

Speaker 1 I'm not shooting at podcasts or no more. I know.
You shoot at niggas.

Speaker 1 He don't shoot anymore. No, that nigga said, yo,

Speaker 1 I want to do what Brandon did. If you want to do what Brandon did,

Speaker 1 pick up a ball. No, pick up a gun.
I ruined everything, picking up a ball. Oh, no.
That won't happen again.

Speaker 1 I ain't ruined everything. But I don't mean exactly what he did.

Speaker 1 We are making light up.

Speaker 1 Going crazy. I think a lot.
And so when I see somebody going crazy, like something ticks know what the difference is. I think the problem is, real quick, it's relationships.
Nah.

Speaker 1 To me. Like, if niggas didn't care about relationships, niggas just go crazy.
That's part of it. No, but this is.

Speaker 1 Them niggas is talking about. We're talking about content space.
Now, the niggas talking about hooping. Hold on.
Them niggas in our demo.

Speaker 1 Gonna see you outside and might have a problem. And so that's where it gets a little different.
I was just gonna say,

Speaker 1 content space. We living in content.

Speaker 1 You shoot back.

Speaker 1 I don't make it look like that at all. We in the content space.
But even that,

Speaker 1 and you would go crazy. You would be out here going crazy.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But you choose not to because, like I said, talk to you. Shoot at these niggas.
Talk to one shit who you know won't shoot back.

Speaker 1 If I went like that, it would get expensive.

Speaker 1 But he ain't exempt. I can make it so he could never see me.

Speaker 1 He would only see me in the strip club. That's the only place he would bump into me.
Where can I see you at?

Speaker 1 Oh, nigga, you know how I feel if we talk.

Speaker 1 Fuck what you talking about. I'm talking about when I'm moving around, moving and shaking, looking a certain way just by myself.
That could get uncomfortable. That would be expensive.

Speaker 1 But if you talk a certain way, then shit, invest. You could do that.
No, I'd just rather not live that way. But that's what

Speaker 1 we're saying.

Speaker 1 That's what we're saying, though. That's what we're saying.
That's all. That's the only difference in this space.
This space is niggas, like niggas.

Speaker 1 His ego is still there.

Speaker 1 He likes this. He's trying to battle for someone to say.

Speaker 1 I don't think we're having no conversation here that I haven't had on my own.

Speaker 1 It's just me. We're pondering a new thought.
You got to just watch yourself, bro. Real time, son.
IRL, nigga. IRT.
In real time, watch yourself. You start twitching your lip.

Speaker 1 That's the same shit with him with Imani. Nigga, start doing that.
That lip twitch? Yeah,

Speaker 1 count the 10. Count the 10.

Speaker 1 Wusa. Woo-sa.
Let's get back to creation.

Speaker 1 No, that's the difference. Because even me, nigga, it's the same thing.
I know. Jeff Teacher.

Speaker 1 It gets expensive. And you have to go all the way sometimes.
You got to be prepared to go wherever it's going. Wherever it's going to be.
The first thing niggas to do is

Speaker 1 bring that camera.

Speaker 1 It gets real tricky outside. So if you stand on it, there's some niggas that stand on that.
But there's some niggas.

Speaker 1 But the niggas that do it are not outside. Not just that.
They are a thousand miles away in their fucking crib. Not just that, though.
Like, the the Jeff Teague shit, it ain't no disrespect there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're talking about hooping. We just talk.
I got it.

Speaker 1 So, if Jeff Teague sees Gilbert Arenas, they probably laugh over this. They're gonna laugh, nigga.
You know, I gave you 50 in AAU, nigga. Don't forget,

Speaker 1 you know, you couldn't handle my motherfucking carry my gym socks, nigga.

Speaker 1 In our space and in our medium, when you say something shit about somebody, it goes. You might have to see them outside.
It's gonna go immediately. Look at your button.

Speaker 1 Look at your button.

Speaker 1 Put some clothes though, you freaky ass boy.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? So it's different. I ain't been to the hookah spot system, nigga, showed up with Bear Spray.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you ain't been to the Hookah Spot System, nigga.

Speaker 1 My son was dead, nigga. We was there together.

Speaker 1 So?

Speaker 1 Oh, he bought you for the

Speaker 1 whole shit.

Speaker 1 He was the pitbull.

Speaker 1 Niggas said he was a baby pip.

Speaker 1 Don't bring me around, nigga. It'd be too expensive to bring around.

Speaker 1 Snarf.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, she gonna be be snarf that little i know that dog

Speaker 1 watching my

Speaker 1 cat

Speaker 1 don't call me that

Speaker 1 i'm gonna go all the way out

Speaker 1 yo no but but when i heard charlamagne i i saw like similarities so that was an education just watching how they navigated that and handled it but um

Speaker 1 Once Envy and Charlemagne said, yo, dog, we came to you on the side and said, yo how do you want to handle this let us know and you elected to handle it like x now you can't come and complain about how we handle it like x because that was a decision that you said

Speaker 1 so that now i jumped jump ship yeah i just didn't i didn't like the you're you're pitting us against each other like fam we we came to you and said this

Speaker 1 I'm cool. Just don't lie.

Speaker 1 But you know what it is? Like you said, Flip, a lot of people, it's ego-based.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to look like that person.

Speaker 1 I can't go with the shit.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, nah, I don't care about that when you really care.

Speaker 1 Is there a wrong time to get pregnant?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Are you wrong? From a business perspective or a person? Just asking y'all, however, you take it. I thought that was crazy you said that too.
However you carry

Speaker 1 now.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then after that, we'll do the ad.
Yes. And that'll be the end of that.
Yes. No.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, yes. but she was not a wrong time but you got to take what come along with it yeah so that the timing could be

Speaker 1 for your business i'm not saying personally yeah yeah for for from a business aspect there can be

Speaker 1 planned it

Speaker 1 She said she planned it. I did it on purpose.
I wanted a baby. So that's what I did.
Yeah, I don't think it's. Right after.
I don't think it's a wrong time.

Speaker 1 I think that from what I heard, and I don't want to disrespect none of the people involved, I think that from what I heard, had she spoken up and been honest and forthright with them and said, yo, dog, I'm not comfortable with what I came back to.

Speaker 1 Let's modify this. And if they would have modified it, then she would have been straight.
True.

Speaker 1 That's what I think. I'm just saying, professionally, they said.
Professionally, there is a wrong time

Speaker 1 for that.

Speaker 1 That's all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Professionally. There's a wrong time to be pregnant.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It can't hurt you.

Speaker 1 It can hurt.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing about

Speaker 1 children being a blessing. I agree with all of that.
I'm just saying, professionally, timing can affect you.

Speaker 1 I want to speak on this, but I feel like I'll put my foot in my mouth.

Speaker 1 Don't do it. Don't do it.
I want to talk. I want to speak truth to power on this subject right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's worth it.

Speaker 1 You're trying to manifest the baby?

Speaker 1 It's coming. It's coming.
You with some sleep, boy.

Speaker 1 You know what's coming. That nigga right there.
Twin girls.

Speaker 1 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 I cannot wait.

Speaker 1 Watch. Y'all swear.
Yup. Something different.
Yep. Can't wait, bro.
Y'all fucking swear.

Speaker 1 Don't y'all know this girl think that if I propose, it's supposed to be super ill because I did it twice before to other people?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the bar set. Nigga, if y'all knocked that bullshit, the bar set? My nigga plan on proposing.

Speaker 1 I've got to go to the moon or some shit.

Speaker 1 You got to propose propose in space. I understand that we can't say that that don't make sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is like the fucking push gift.
Like, what are we talking about? But you bodied the other topic.

Speaker 1 Stop it. No, stop it.
You're doing shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing because I ain't about to get fucked.

Speaker 1 You got a ring hanging on a helicopter.

Speaker 1 That is some of the

Speaker 1 worst logic I ever heard. So, old nigga, you was there.
I don't give a loving hip-hop body. That is some of the worst logic.
I'm sure that there are women out there that think about it.

Speaker 1 You gotta make them shutting up. You gotta use real-life health issues.
Like, my back fucked up. I can't go on my knees.
You gotta stay shit like that. I got sclerosis.
What you got, get?

Speaker 1 Can't bend down no more. My knees.

Speaker 1 It's like the stupid ass girl that was like, oh my God, don't bring me to this beautiful, amazing restaurant with the great vibe and the great food if you brought someone else here before.

Speaker 1 Why that? Yeah, I like this place. That's the exact reason that I'm bringing you here.

Speaker 1 This is my show. The vibe and the food is good.
Yeah, we had a blast. Me and What's The Face that came here? Why would I not want you to experience that?

Speaker 1 I mean, I could go back and get her and we go again. No, or I could take you to some new shit that the vibe ain't popping and the food is trash.
That part. That part is absolutely trash.

Speaker 1 But I've only experienced the shitty food with you, ma.

Speaker 1 Y'all,

Speaker 1 that's crazy fucking shit. Yeah,

Speaker 1 come with some sub-par proposal, though. Watch how that play out.
His shit going to be regular setting up.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, check your text message real quick while you sitting there. Picture of the ring.

Speaker 1 But I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 1 What is a sub-par proposal? I know it's not our business to say.

Speaker 1 It's there. It's something I'm going to say.
You have a bar set. Yeah.
You just got to collect it. Under that creative,

Speaker 1 bro. It's really that simple.

Speaker 1 And she's telling him. Put some thought into it.
Yeah, some parts of you'll do it. You'll do great.
Nigga. And she is telling him,

Speaker 1 I've seen you two times before. Don't.
Hey, you won't get seen. Just won't get seen.

Speaker 1 She

Speaker 1 right here. You out your goddamn mind.

Speaker 1 Now, Corey, right, though. Okay, okay.
Unless Joe decides that to have, because she's not going to know when it's coming, he himself will be the person to say record. It would be his decision.

Speaker 1 I'm only even thinking about this because I want to get it done before ICE.

Speaker 1 What are racing means for?

Speaker 1 You're going to do something stupid like fucking horse and carriages. No.
You're going to put fucking

Speaker 1 pink roses all over New Jersey, northern New Jersey. You're going to try to raise the bar and change shit for men moving forward.
I'm not fucking with you. I'm doing what she would want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like that. I know you don't.
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 The proposal is not for me.

Speaker 1 Don't try to up it on the proposal. That's not something that's not.
That's exactly what you do.

Speaker 1 exactly you do what she wants paying these niggas no mind yeah yo don't up it it's not upping because it's every up is different for every woman

Speaker 1 i'm doing what my woman and they ruined my idea already i told y'all i was gonna go to turkey leg hut put the ring inside one of the turkey legs don't go when she hungry

Speaker 1 and have them bring it to the table

Speaker 1 because that was the first dm damn you had that turkey leg hunt that's my smile girl see oh that good that would have worked that sentimental that was fire

Speaker 1 yo you know how i know i'm super toxic i'm gonna say this and i'm gonna move off this topic oh man let me get my pillow ready y'all know there's people out there today that i won't even say happy birthday to

Speaker 1 oh no that's toxic do you know that there's women out there that i will not

Speaker 1 dm or text or just say

Speaker 1 happy birthday i don't understand what's wrong with that you understand yes you do like you mean your exes or people that people

Speaker 1 people women women.

Speaker 1 That's a problem?

Speaker 1 I ain't. Yeah.
Okay. Why? I got something I want to say that shit to.

Speaker 1 That's so toxic. How? That is toxic to not be able to say happy birthday to fuck your birthday.

Speaker 1 How is that? I don't feel like him. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 If I don't fuck with you.

Speaker 1 No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying happy birthday is going to lead to you fucking the girl.
Okay, you can have that.

Speaker 1 So you can't say happy birthday because she's going to say, oh, thank you so. Or you could just say happy birthday and have some control and don't fuck the girl.
No, you don't see.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting here like, what the fuck is that? I didn't know that's what you was talking about. You're crazy as hell.
You don't got to fuck the girl. No, you don't.
Yes, you don't.

Speaker 1 You can say happy birthday and it go right.

Speaker 1 Why do it got to go papa? It's just going to lead to.

Speaker 1 You don't have to put a candle in a cake, my nigga. You could say happy birthday and keep it pushing.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with you? Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you shouldn't even paint that position for nobody. You shouldn't even put nobody in that type of predicament.
Dog, honestly. You different.
Yeah, yeah, salute.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got, I mean, that's some other. It must be nice to be him.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't even beat it off. Like, no, get away from me.
No, because it's just there. You can't even run from it.
You just. I love it.
I play the worst on the part, so y'all can play the best.

Speaker 1 You made this scenario. No, I know.
And y'all like, no, no, man.

Speaker 1 That boyfriend.

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Speaker 1 Hell, that's my bad.

Speaker 1 My bad is back. Nigga, try to pull me in the swap with him.
Can I leave you? Say happy birthday to bitches. Dude, that.

Speaker 1 Yo, this guy's different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. This nigga try to pull me in the swap.

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Speaker 1 Was there any? Music?

Speaker 1 A couple joints dropped. Okay.

Speaker 1 We got the Leon Thomas

Speaker 1 that he's been announcing was coming with Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 I know everybody up here loves the Leon Thomas album. Absolutely.
Indeed.

Speaker 1 Mutt is

Speaker 1 one of the favorites. For sure.
If not the favorite. Yeah.
It's high up there.

Speaker 1 Did y'all get a chance to hear it? I did. I did.
Yep. All right, let me hear a little.

Speaker 1 Let's let the people hear a little bit in case they missed it.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Bap, bap, bab, bap, bop, bab, bop.
Here we go, bong.

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So let's just get to it.

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Speaker 1 got me sad.

Speaker 1 This ain't no temporary feeling.

Speaker 1 The way everybody talks.

Speaker 1 You don't gotta say anything. We can take our time.
What's the worst? You can bring a friend, girl, I don't doubt. You know I'ma pick, got me time to eat it up.
Shawty, I'ma trigger.

Speaker 1 I give you what she wants. With them other girls, ain't no judgment.
Boy, it sounds good.

Speaker 1 She broke my guard down for you.

Speaker 1 All right. There you go.
There you go.

Speaker 1 CB remix, because he already had Freddie Gibbs remix featured on the same album.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Chris Brown. This sounds great.
It does. Shout out to Breezy.

Speaker 1 Michelle Cliff.

Speaker 1 Glad I got it.

Speaker 1 Listen, if you could put one of your better songs out with Chris Brown on it, you should do it. What? You should do it.
That sounds fire. No-brainer.
You put one of your worst songs out with

Speaker 1 It might become your best. Absolutely right.
Shout out to the friend of the show, Leon Thomas, man. For sure.
Facts, facts. Who else came out? Kevin Gates? Kevin Gates? Yeah, Kevin Gates came out.

Speaker 1 He dropped I'm Him 2,

Speaker 1 which, you know, follow up to I'm Him, of course.

Speaker 1 I played it, actually dropped on Thursday, which was a little weird to me. I've noticed a couple, I saw like a couple albums, couple singles.
People are starting to drop on Thursdays.

Speaker 1 I don't know if there's some marketing or Billboard game they playing now with that. But anyway,

Speaker 1 the album's great. Like, Kevin Gates has become Mr.
Consistent to me. He really don't miss on a project.
I'm pausing that anyway.

Speaker 1 Consistent? Kevin Gates has been Mr. Consistent for me.
On me. I said for me.
He is. For me.

Speaker 1 If you said, oh, that would be a good idea. I'm giving it a pause all the way.
All right. Either way, I'm just giving it one.
I'll take it. Hey, listen.

Speaker 1 Nah, but you said something about his last project. Yeah.
I really liked his last project. His last.
Last time he came through. I could have waited.

Speaker 1 You good?

Speaker 1 I'm chilling. Bobby.
So make sure you good. Bobby the last project, too.
Every time I call this nigga, come over, you come slay some shit.

Speaker 1 Slay the speakers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm probably going to play a sleep off of it.

Speaker 1 He had two singles, or yeah, two singles that he dropped prior to the album. Kevin Gates is on my

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of Niggas I Want to Interview, but I won't. I want to see the Bobby interview.

Speaker 1 Bobby's here. She's holding on.
She holding on, for sure.

Speaker 1 Still, I want to watch this one. Just so long.

Speaker 1 I watch any Kevin Gates interviews.

Speaker 1 I don't care. He's on that list.
He's a good interview, bro. You never get jokes off these niggas.
Hey, wait, Bobby

Speaker 1 on the defibrillator.

Speaker 1 Pushy on the. Clear.

Speaker 1 Bobby on one of the shit. She holding on.
She's going to find a black.

Speaker 1 She's got to find a black.

Speaker 1 I mean, them niggas don't never go to fucking Uncle Jesse from Full House to fucking keep him afloat. Nah, that ain't gonna work.
Anyway, go, Kevin Gates. Yeah, good project.
Check it out.

Speaker 1 Shout out to him too. Uncle Jesse.

Speaker 1 Bobby's shit is in the pit.

Speaker 1 Speaking of, you was wrong.

Speaker 1 Which happens every leap year.

Speaker 1 How often leap year occur again? A couple times a year.

Speaker 1 How about this? Every three weeks. Every four months.
Every three weeks.

Speaker 1 I'll be wrong. Let me not do that because when I listen back to the pod, I sound like a nigga that think he ain't wrong a lot.
So I'll take that back. I be wrong.

Speaker 1 And I just got to learn how to sound like I be wrong. Yeah, because the way you describe

Speaker 1 it to us. Yeah, we're a gift.

Speaker 1 Put some baby steps.

Speaker 1 That's dope, bro. Part of the gift, though, is sounding right in the wrong.
It's tricky. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But anyway. But at least you'll get admitted to the wrong.
The pit. Let me hear.
Who was I wrong? How was I wrong? Just.

Speaker 1 Is it good personal? Yes. Yeah, the pit is good.
The pit is good. I wasn't never trying to say the pit wasn't good, by the way.
No, you didn't sell it at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you didn't do it right before.

Speaker 1 The way you sold it. I started with, it's like an old FX show.

Speaker 1 I don't get that. Stop it.
And then y'all said, new FX or Olivet. I said, old FX.

Speaker 1 And y'all was like, oh, that's good. So I'm not trying to downplay it.
Well, the way you downplayed it, though. You were saying how

Speaker 1 shit don't connect between the...

Speaker 1 Between the people that work there, you made it seem like outside of the patients, there's no story that carry on from episode to episode. First off,

Speaker 1 it's almost 24-based where the entire season takes place in one day. Every episode is an hour in the same emergency room.
So

Speaker 1 that's part of the problem I was speaking to.

Speaker 1 How is that part of the problem, Joe? That's kind of the because

Speaker 1 because it's too many patients coming in with problems.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say too many like it's not good, but when you first watch it, I was overwhelmed by the patients that were coming in and all of the story and problems that the patients had.

Speaker 1 True, but even the patients, it's not like they're coming in and rolling out in the same episode. So all of this shit is ongoing.
I mean, I'm only at episode five or six right now. I'm only at seven.

Speaker 1 So I'm still early on. I think it's a 15 season, a 15 episode season from what I've been told.
Damn.

Speaker 1 It's some wild, like, I think that's wild. I haven't seen some wild, wild shit.

Speaker 1 And a lot of the healthcare people that, like, that work in emergency rooms and shit, because I've been tweeting about it, they hitting me like, yo, nigga, this is what we see for real.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are saying this is the closest

Speaker 1 depiction of what the emergency room really looked like that we've seen on television. And that's what I was going to say.
I never saw the show, but I've dated a few nurses in my day. Oh, we know.

Speaker 1 And we know. And no, they be saying like that shit is crazy.
So this person right here might come in with a gunshot wound. This person might hear coming in pneumonia.

Speaker 1 So that shit is moving around like that. You saying you ain't like that.
They was going through one whole day with one different episode

Speaker 1 per hour. no i was saying i come from house and grace

Speaker 1 anatomy

Speaker 1 which meant there were storylines multiple storylines with the people that worked in these places on this show as as up to the point where i was watching it the storyline just came from the patients but if you're that's not even but if you're in one day right

Speaker 1 with Grey's Anatomy and house, we might see when Johnny met Kathy and now they start fucking. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
In a one-day season. I'm at episode seven.
I ain't seen that yet.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. That was all I was trying to say.
I wasn't trying to say it wasn't a good show. From episode one,

Speaker 1 I don't have all the names yet, but from episode one,

Speaker 1 me and my lady watching, and I'm like, okay, they was fucking. You can tell.
Who was fucking?

Speaker 1 The main doctor and

Speaker 1 the black girl with the short hair. The short hair.
You can tell. And then by, I'm at like, like I said, five or six.
Somebody said to her, yeah, but talk to him. Y'all have history.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah, but that was ages ago. I'm like, you can tell.
You could see the interaction between them that there's something there. Shorty's pregnant.
Now we're guessing, okay, is it this nigga?

Speaker 1 Like, what's going on? Like, there's storyline. I had to have episode seven, and I still don't have that.
They was fucking. I have.
They said it. Oh, I didn't know.
Shorty said it to her.

Speaker 1 She, she was like. She didn't say we were fucking.
She said, y'all have history. Oh, y'all dated.

Speaker 1 Or we dated ages ago or something like that. She said, Listen, I'm not trying to say I didn't miss anything either.
But I haven't heard. I'm going to keep it a buck.
That's what I took.

Speaker 1 I said, Joe, this looks like the way you explained it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's literally what I said. This nigga had to have been on the phone or not fully paying attention to it, distracted a little bit.
Because then you can miss shit.

Speaker 1 No, that was my take.

Speaker 1 I didn't miss nothing. I watched something and came back with my take.

Speaker 1 But you might have missed that part with one of the Nigerian realtors. Yeah, I would have had to miss a lot of parts.
I'm in episode seven, and I don't see the doctors fucking.

Speaker 1 I see the interns are fuck-ups, and the OGs in the hospital are keeping this together. I don't see nobody fucking.
I don't see nobody related to no.

Speaker 1 I don't see it yet. The other shit I like.
That's not me saying it's bad. Please.
The other shit I like about the show,

Speaker 1 I think I was three episodes in and we done already seen two or three people die. Like they're not, it ain't all happening.
This is shit and everybody. Yeah, this ain't happy.
And this is real shit.

Speaker 1 The one little young dude who is his, I think it's his first day or something there. Like it's a lot of

Speaker 1 students working as well. Lost a patient on the table.
He's sitting there. They all tell him, yo, he gone.
He just won't give up. Just press him.
No, press him, press. No.
Yo, no, no.

Speaker 1 He's going to be all right. No, fam, he's gone.
Now you got to live with that.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing that's kind of disturbing about the show. And then we cleave it.
For me. It's not an ad for me.

Speaker 1 I really like this show.

Speaker 1 In closing.

Speaker 1 Death is so sudden sometimes. I know I gave y'all enough of that in the last part, so we can skip it.
But watching the show, it's like he in here for one thing. They roll him in here.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 We did something wrong. He's dead.
We lost him. Like, God damn.
No. Give me a snap hole or something.

Speaker 1 The teenage boy that came in there. Yeah.
That was the one.

Speaker 1 The teenage boy that came in there and his parents just would not accept.

Speaker 1 So the doctor is trying. Yo, the doctor, his bedside manner is out of this world.

Speaker 1 In a good way or bad? In a good way. Okay.
Like, they already know he's brain dead. It's over.
But he don't want to just lay that on the family too quick. Yo, we'll run another test.

Speaker 1 All right, we're going to go do this now. This one takes an hour to come back.
He and they're telling him, Yo, you're holding up this spot. We got a whole yo, their waiting room is nuts.

Speaker 1 We holding up this spot. Yo, get this kid out of here.
He's like, No, I'm trying to help the family. The parents don't understand.
We're gonna work our way through this.

Speaker 1 This is giving them time to prepare for the news that I really got to give them. Gotcha, gotcha.
Got it. This shit is fire, though.
So check it out. There we go.
Watch it. Yeah, watch it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Watch it. I might.

Speaker 1 We do all that shit.

Speaker 1 I might.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's actually kind of dark and dying.

Speaker 1 It's not, though.

Speaker 1 It's just real shit. I could never, never.

Speaker 1 I was watching that shit. I'm like, yo, about 30 minutes in, I sat, I went home.
First day. Oh, nigga, what?

Speaker 1 Gone. They numbed to that shit.
Back to my breakfast club topic. Let me get off the pit for a little bit.

Speaker 1 I don't think that there's a wrong time to get pregnant either. I do think that

Speaker 1 if you get pregnant at the wrong time and your replacement is really, really, really good, then you're coming back to deal with some different circumstances.

Speaker 1 It's possible. And I don't want to, I'm not, I'm never going to compare pregnancy to injury, but

Speaker 1 in sports, you don't plan on the injury. Right.
Drew Belso? Yep. All of them.
All of them. Like, I don't want to say it, but yeah, all of them.

Speaker 1 And that's got to be tough for women, right, to weigh that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's where the career versus, that's where that argument comes from

Speaker 1 well there's some women that don't connect the two there's some women that don't connect the two and there's some that do well some careers one won't affect the other

Speaker 1 and then there's other careers where one directly affects the other

Speaker 1 i've spoken to older successful business women that have made the decision to not have children because of the path that they were on yeah my professionally my job is so my it even taking it even takes

Speaker 1 it kind of even takes precedent over real relationships and i was about to say my job is so demanding that I can't even really get serious with this person because I can't give them that much time.

Speaker 1 And the other part of that, to add to what you're saying, is right, there's some women that are making their decision not just based on them and how they feel in their job trajectory, but they're the breadwinner of the relationship.

Speaker 1 They're making this down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 For some women, it ain't just them. It ain't just them.
I can't do it for us.

Speaker 1 It gets deep.

Speaker 1 I told you. I'm glad that men don't have to make that decision.

Speaker 1 I would fuck it up, too.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, it'll be a lot less babies out here if we had to make that decision. Niggas are selfish when it comes to that.
Coming to the money?

Speaker 1 Nigga, niggas be selfish once they get the girl pregnant. I know, but I'm talking about if the pregnancy would stop a man's career,

Speaker 1 a lot less niggas is going to choose to go get that bag.

Speaker 1 Because that's where our value is.

Speaker 1 The world looks at our value.

Speaker 1 can you get to the bag,

Speaker 1 the passion in the moment,

Speaker 1 all that shit. How much money do you make?

Speaker 1 That's true. We are definitely niggas put the bag above everything else.

Speaker 1 Not saying it's a good thing, but

Speaker 1 you're asking niggas to sit down for like a year,

Speaker 1 more than a year, by the time you go get right after the baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's a lot.

Speaker 1 Hey, wait, wait. That's when I look.

Speaker 1 Look at the little sonogram.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm sorry, Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 I love this little dot. Little dot? These hoes.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, Jeffrey, he was going to be a star.

Speaker 1 Oh, if we didn't make the wrong decision.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 And you can't do that in front of the girl because she got a connection to the dot on the paper. You're like, look, it's right there.
You're like, where is it? I know the name of

Speaker 1 The gestation sack. That shit.

Speaker 1 They be dead ass connected

Speaker 1 to that little motherfucker. I'm lying.
They be like, look, Jeffy's right there. And you be a dude, like, wait, where? She just looked like some Nintendo static.

Speaker 1 Like, you're playing Pong, nigga.

Speaker 1 She

Speaker 1 looks like the early stages of some shit I'm going to abandon. Come on.

Speaker 1 Don't touch me.

Speaker 1 This nigga, yo.

Speaker 1 Look how they look with both parents. A dot.

Speaker 1 None of y'all know. I'm blowing it on this.
Loser.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all think that niggas had to always be mature, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And I ain't when y'all do this. I don't give a fuck.
I'll play Eric B. and Rockham to support what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You better not. I done had these conversations before.
Come on, we gotta do it. You better not.

Speaker 1 We can move on, huh? You had them conversations?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, Antwerp.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Uncle E, what up?

Speaker 1 Ship the juice.

Speaker 1 All right, what else we got? What else we got?

Speaker 1 What's happening? It's a lot happening. It's a lot happening, nigga.

Speaker 1 The feds is doing it. They done a sweep, nigga.
Criminal minds, let's go.

Speaker 1 Doing a sweep, man. Take it away.
Take it away, squeeze flip. Well, I'm not your criminal expert.
Yes, you you are.

Speaker 1 Yes, you are.

Speaker 1 Yo, you got kicked out of both. Yeah, oh shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, listen, old man, nigga. When you got, listen, stop.
The feds, right now, I mean, there's been a lot going on.

Speaker 1 The Rolling 60s, the Crips, you know, the Feds swept out on them, charged them with

Speaker 1 a Rico case, big UNM. Yeah.
The Feds also arrested Yellow Beezy, connected with the, you know, Mo 3 thing. That's state.
That's the statement. That's the state.
Yeah, that's state. Okay.
But

Speaker 1 it's something going on in law enforcement right now where all the police is locking people up. Yeah, it's called social media.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm kind of nervous.
I asked Joe, yo, listen, big dog, look, if they come in here for me, what are you doing? Are you letting them in? We had a discussion off camera.

Speaker 1 Hopefully the behind the scenes caught it. But they are on niggas' asses.
I think it's the start of the second quarter. The budgets is opening up and niggas want to get paid.

Speaker 1 That's my lighthearted thing about it because you know, there's a lot of people that

Speaker 1 families are hurt hurt, and there's a lot of things going on right now. I don't want to make jokes about the people that's currently getting arrested, but yeah, the feds are doing a sweep, Joe.

Speaker 1 I know, but you're a civilian.

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 but I mean, the way they work, they look like they got they captured shit from 15 years, 16 years ago, and they know he. He, um, you were in a T-Mobile commercial 16 years ago.

Speaker 1 You know, they know good kid. No, they know that nigga.
You was a T-Mobile commercial gangster killer.

Speaker 1 Wait, nigga, had the Gucci rag on the cabin. Yeah.
Gucci gang, nigga. I told you I tried to scam, nigga.
That's what happened. I tried to scam, but they coming back for everything.

Speaker 1 They see everything and they know. They're gonna ring flip in that office.
That nigga gonna do the Anthony Anderson.

Speaker 1 He did it.

Speaker 1 What the fuck out of there? Hell. He did it.
Hell no. You do it up here.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
That's just more of a jokes. I know.
I know. Now, when your freedom is on the lock,

Speaker 1 it put pressure on y'all. But nah, man, I feel like

Speaker 1 I don't know what's going on. I'm tired of niggas shit.
I'm a civilian, so I mind my civilian business.

Speaker 1 Apparently, some of y'all out there are not civilians, and y'all are in a different business. Do you think social media?

Speaker 1 And y'all are out there in a different business telling and showing them the business you in.

Speaker 1 Which I don't really get, but I figure I'm just not evolved enough or educated enough in y'all's side of the business.

Speaker 1 But if I was in y'all's side of the business, I wouldn't do the business like that. My thing is me being on this side of it, I shouldn't know y'all's side of the business at all.

Speaker 1 Sam, nigga, the fact that I know it means the people that's trying to lock y'all up know it do y'all think social media is solving most of these crimes yes yes no i think the police are solving most of the crimes but the dodos on social media are giving them the evidence and all i gotta do is go oh that was a no no no that was an interview doing that you did in 2019 let me put that with the interview did in 2022 let me put this with another different niggas interview in 2023.

Speaker 1 Dog, they making this shit so easy now. A motherfucker could walk off the street and investigate this case and have it all the way laid out.

Speaker 1 You don't even have to connect it they telling you yo yesterday freeze i did this are you on the side of blaming the interviewer or interviewee interviewee for sure you're not blaming the individual

Speaker 1 interviewee is the one that's talking right yeah i'm a little slow yes that's who i'm that's who i'm blaming so you're blaming the person that's actually sitting on the couch express you shouldn't even be

Speaker 1 a criminal and you have shit to hide hide it

Speaker 1 You should not be in front of a camera. Hide it.
Hide it. About anything.
Hide it. About anything.
That's a person. Put a lot of down.

Speaker 1 Now, you have some of them that are trying to either transition into a different career talk about music but and and i've seen i've seen those people get interviewed i've seen the interviewer try to trip them up and they move accordingly i'm not mad at that but i'm talking about the people that you ain't even trying to you just want some shine i agree with you but we got to be honest A lot of niggas, man,

Speaker 1 their glory days is past them. So some of these interviewers are offered in the bag, and when you offer a bag, sometimes the bag is juicy enough to go, you sit up there and go talk.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? They offer a bag with

Speaker 1 a monthly stipend. They do.

Speaker 1 I'm not even. And I sure agree with that.
That's a certain portion of.

Speaker 1 I'm not devil advocated to wrong damn time. No, I do.
No, I am on his side.

Speaker 1 Devil's advocate. I am on his side.
Why you always gotta get at me like that? I'm on his side about, I feel like you shouldn't sit there and talk, but niggas is offering money.

Speaker 1 But I offered money before when I was up.

Speaker 1 Come here and talk. But I did.
And the numbers went up and I made triple. It ain't even just them that's talking, though.
It's niggas who ain't yesteryear niggas who still. You know the trick?

Speaker 1 Listen, let me explain something. You know the trick to the media shit? You bring somebody up there to talk about a situation, you pay them.
That opens up the door for somebody to come respond.

Speaker 1 Now you have a long history of content that you can make money off of. True.
And that's all niggas is thinking about.

Speaker 1 If I sit up here right now and talk about Joe Smoe, nigga, yo, back in the days, nigga, I violated Joe Smoller. I hit him with a bat.
Bow, nigga, fucked up.

Speaker 1 Joe Smoe is going to do an interview and respond, and most likely the person that's interviewing me is going to interview him. Okay.
Now let's move that to the side. Parpool of money.

Speaker 1 What do you say to the nigga that takes his own camera and do this and started? I don't agree with that.

Speaker 1 They're not doing none of it. But it's the same.
What do you say to the guy that wants you to have bigger aspirations? No, nigga.

Speaker 1 What is that? What do you say to the nigga?

Speaker 1 You're only nigga that want probably niggas that have niggas. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Who want Marlowe in them? Look, so what happens to the nigga that... Look, he's so stupid.
Niggas don't want niggas to have big aspirations.

Speaker 1 Niggas are fascinated by the stories. Nigga, we sit here and we watch them.
I watch that nigga. What's that nigga that break that look? Okay, what I'm trying to say is, and I don't want to say this.

Speaker 1 You should. The murder should be more important than the digital footprint.
I agree with you. If we did that.

Speaker 1 Nobody should know we did that. No, the nigga smacked Joe Schmo with a shovel, right? You just said he smacked Joe Schmo.

Speaker 1 For Joe Schmo to now come on that same show and say, yeah, that's why we caught his brother by the stoplight and we put two in him. Joe Schmo is a fucking idiot, my nigga.
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 That way, I do want to play devil's advocate a little bit in some of this. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because the same way I watch American Greed and be applauding the white people with some of the crimes they come up with,

Speaker 1 I don't really have the biggest problem with,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do it, but

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 robbing

Speaker 1 and charging you to get it back.

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 1 But I think that's just

Speaker 1 street taxes. It is.
It is. Now, why are you getting on a camera saying

Speaker 1 we robbed him and we

Speaker 1 made him pay to get it back? You're a connected. I don't think you should have said that.
But nobody knows if you don't say that. I think.
And you're talking about saying, and I agree, that's wrong.

Speaker 1 A step further than that, Big Freeze.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing the crime.

Speaker 1 But I think some kind of... Hey, some of these crimes they ain't talked about, and I see them on whatever site is on.
You still got to remember, there's niggas that tell.

Speaker 1 So, like,

Speaker 1 there's niggas out here. So, we talked about interviewers.
There's still situations that happen where niggas use that as leverage to get free. Y'all know there's crime that happened over here.

Speaker 1 Niggas are talking, and they not,

Speaker 1 there's no threat to their family. We're talking about two different things.
I understand. When the police do police work, the cash is different.
They earned it.

Speaker 1 When niggas is out here making these niggas put me in jail and they didn't have to do no work to put you in jail, you are a fucking idiot because you only doing it for the sake of being more famous.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. Niggas out here putting themselves in jail.
Not even another nigga. Street respect.
They put the spots. Why do people get mad at the interviewers? Yo, you doing this? Y'all doing that?

Speaker 1 I think the interviewer needs to be. We need to know everything.
I'm talking about everything but the criminals right now. Yeah, like I'm still stuck in the corner.
I want y'all to know that.

Speaker 1 It's all the criminals. And it's just all the criminal.

Speaker 1 I say all the time.

Speaker 1 No, I just said about the criminals.

Speaker 1 I say all the time, you can't, even when we joke about the behind-the-scenes camera. What do I say? I say, if you don't say it, if you don't say it, you don't have to worry about it going out.

Speaker 1 If you got some shit you don't want out, shut the fuck up. True.
That's it.

Speaker 1 True. That's true.
That's it right there. And don't even fuck with the little illusions.

Speaker 1 Nothing.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up. But in today's time.
Well, how about stop doing crime, right?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 crime is going to always be there. I ain't going to say stop doing it.
Crime is always going to be there.

Speaker 1 And I think that that's why we don't really highlight the criminals. I mean, it's our responsibility to do so, but the world is filled with crime.
Absolutely. We became desensitized to crime.

Speaker 1 We kind of expect crime to happen. So when we're not sitting here condemning the criminals, even if some of them are our peers, it's because the world is filled with it.

Speaker 1 Well, the real problem is every day. Nothing's going to change.
Crime is going to happen. The real problem is niggas made the criminal the hero.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Niggas made the crime.
So now other niggas want to be the hero.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's really what it is.
We look up to, but that's been.

Speaker 1 We looked up to the drug dealer. Killing the drugs.
The drug dealer was the man. It's been like that since the beginning of the time.
I know. But now, social media and shit.

Speaker 1 Now you knew shit by word of mouth. You knew shit by word of mouth.
You knew shit if you, unless you saw it. It's worse.

Speaker 1 Now, social media and these camera phones and all of this shit got peep, got the criminal himself wanting to broadcast to the world that I am the criminal so that my name rings bells not just on my block in my hood, but across the world.

Speaker 1 He's right. That's why I always say, like, we have this discussion before, do we think the OGs from back in the day would have behaved this way? I always say yes.

Speaker 1 I just think they just didn't have the medium to do it. They wouldn't.
Because we're watching OGs who was running around back then do the same shit today. I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Because now they got the mediums because now they're trying to be stars on the internet. They wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You had to answer the niggas back in the day.
But it's different. I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Bam, I've seen

Speaker 1 this fed sweeping. I'm a civilian.
What the hell do I got to say to this shit?

Speaker 1 Hey, I don't care about it. I see it.
Hey, some of it is juicy, so I read it. I'm a civilian.
None of this shit is any of my business.

Speaker 1 I don't, I'm not up in arms about it. Like,

Speaker 1 everybody. Not to serious us out, but us as black men, it's still horrible that, because because they because they programming our kids to do that dumb shit.
Exactly. That's what's a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Wait, who's programming our kids to do what? The motherfuckers that the kids are seeing on Vlad or Adam or whatever, they want to do that shit. My oldest don't look up to none of that.
I know you.

Speaker 1 He's out. Exactly.
My oldest don't look up to none of that. I can't speak for

Speaker 1 what the kids is on. But be the male influence and male role model that you would like to see.
And you don't. My kids don't look up to none of that shit.

Speaker 1 I don't get it. It's not my business.
I'm not downplaying nothing. I'm not slighting nothing.

Speaker 1 Everybody's path is their own path, but that ain't for me at all. And this ain't for them.
True. There you go.
Yeah, and this ain't for them.

Speaker 1 I've never been happy to be called a lame or square and all that other shit. I love it.
Now, some of that shit I do like. Hey, hold up now.
I want to be honest. I don't want to lie.
Stop playing, man.

Speaker 1 Let him do it. I'm not playing.
Let him do it. He's going to do it.
Some of that shit I like. Like what? Like what? Listen, it's like, it's like, hey, my

Speaker 1 Islamic brothers.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the people that come from different belief systems.

Speaker 1 Yo, can y'all stop doing that thing where y'all just pussy so I can't

Speaker 1 say that? I'm just told it's y'all. I know he said clip.
No, he said flip. Oh, I'm sorry.
Not star follow. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Like, like, when you talk to people from, even it's Jewish. You talk to people that's just from wherever they're from.
They might say some shit and you be like, hey, I agree with some of that.

Speaker 1 And then they get to a point and it's like, oh, okay, I got to take it a step back. Even this, like, the clips of Big U taxing the movies that come through the town, I do agree with that a little bit.

Speaker 1 Cool. I know that it's against the law.
And that's where it stops right there. I agree with some of that thinking.
It's again back to street tax.

Speaker 1 But if you know it's against the law, don't hold the camera up to your face, say it, confirm that this is happening, and then upload it. I don't think he did that? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, then. That's what I'm talking about.
I'm not, the crime is going to be the crime. The criminal is always going to be there.
The criminal has been there since the beginning of the time.

Speaker 1 I mean, some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 If a nigga beats you out of 1.5 million with Tricky Dice, and you have a connector. Oh, that story was crazy, too.
Yo, some of this shit is a true story. You have a connector to go get it back.

Speaker 1 Loaded dice, Adrian Broner.

Speaker 1 And I'm bringing the rappers and whoever. I'm bringing them through.
I'm bringing them through. Yo, hey, running.
You know what? You know what it tells me, though? Like,

Speaker 1 there's a luxury in being a civilian. Like, it's a privilege in being a civilian.
Because, like, some of this shit is so off your radar

Speaker 1 that when you read it, it's like really off your radar. But we know it because we come from this shit.

Speaker 1 Like, we know that somebody is setting up the spot for all the celebrities to come to and we got the load of dice and money on the wood. And uh-uh-uh.

Speaker 1 Shit, I was just watching a poker movie about this. I just picked some random movie on Apple.
That's my shit now. I'm just watching old movies.

Speaker 1 But in the the poker movie, whoever house that was that they went to for the poker game. That was that fight night show.
Got it robbed. Remember the fight night show? Oh, yeah.
That was that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was that. There's been a few.
We're going to set up the big game. We're going to have all the money in town.
Come on, whoever we're going to get it robbed with. Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 Kevin Harten, though. I ain't see it.
I didn't see that movie. I didn't see it.
But it was a serious show.

Speaker 1 She was good. But that's the thing.
Yo, we know. That's why we sit here and make the jokes.
Well, not jokes, but All-Star Weekend, BET weekend. Yo, y'all be careful out there.

Speaker 1 Not only because they just running down, robbing you, but they'll set you up. That's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 I'm going to protect you and then set you up in the back end. Yeah.
Or I'm going to put a chick on you. Chick is the easy way to get them.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put a chick on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, rest in peace takeoff, but like

Speaker 1 the dice game out of town.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm good. I'm in the hotel, my nigga.

Speaker 1 But see, and that's the

Speaker 1 bravado of the rapper. Because now if you stay in the hotel the whole time, you pussy.
No, no, no. Or you just looked at

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 My name pussy. Some of these things.
My name vagina. Like the point that bothers me most about that takeoff shit is he wasn't playing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He wasn't playing.

Speaker 1 I'm in the cut. Yeah, man.
That shit is just disheartening. Rest in peace, sir.
Me and anybody else we lost, but this is disheartening. And it's tough to read.

Speaker 1 And again, just more consumption of shit that's like, ugh.

Speaker 1 I just,

Speaker 1 again,

Speaker 1 we'll be lie or fools if we sat up here and say y'all want all the crime to stop. It's not going to stop.

Speaker 1 I don't want all the crime. If you're going to do crime, just do this shit smart.
crazy

Speaker 1 are you crazy like i when i read dumb criminals i just be like crime

Speaker 1 yo what's wrong i don't want y'all to stop stealing them expensive ass mattresses that my my man cannot steal them they just i don't want y'all to stop stealing some expensive that's that's exclusive that i can't get anymore i need you like some needed go inside i don't give a fuck you take all the risk meet me behind somewhere in the alley on on with the with the with the cobblestones on the floor you know

Speaker 1 and yeah crazy. I ain't gonna lie, them niggas be getting to it.

Speaker 1 See them alley niggas, them alley sellers? I heard that. It works.
That's exactly what my man told me. I don't know, nothing.
A TV like this, nigga.

Speaker 1 Off the truck.

Speaker 1 Can you carry it yourself?

Speaker 1 Listen, once my mom said, hey, them people catch you up, you're done.

Speaker 1 Stop thinking about crime. And once I realized that they had a charge for anything my brain could think of, it's like, all right, y'all in.

Speaker 1 And the other one for me was, once I realized you could just be over there with them, you ain't even got to be doing it and get wrapped up in shit. Got it.

Speaker 1 That's it. How old were you when you just saw your life on the wrong track, like headed toward crime, life of crime now? Oh,

Speaker 1 never.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I was stealing at a young age. Never.
I was getting a lot of trouble. You were still now as an adult.

Speaker 1 I don't know. What the fuck are you talking about? I do.
You still getting Snickers at the gas station? No, I was still now.

Speaker 1 I should try. No, you shouldn't.

Speaker 1 If I read that you got picked up for some petty death,

Speaker 1 don't come to war. Are y'all judging me? Yes, yes.
That's bad. Because y'all don't know what could have happened.
I'll own you some money, my nigga. Good looks.
That's why I fuck with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got some money now. I'm on.
Y'all not touching this yellow Beatsy stuff? Y'all done with that, too? I don't really know all the details behind it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they picked him up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We can move all. This is not a crime show.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 The same niggas they wanted you to shoot at. The crime niggas on top of Apple Podcasts.

Speaker 1 Hey, you niggas,

Speaker 1 them niggas is killing it over there. Them crime shows.
What? That's that shit. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That should show you how fucked up America's thinking is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, niggas is obsessed with the shit. Yeah.
Actually, speaking of crime shows, but not speaking of crime shows, got a guest today.

Speaker 1 Special guests. Not that he's from a crime show.
But I feel like I've seen crime shows. Didn't they make the crime show after him?

Speaker 1 Nigga, I feel like the guests is some crime shit. There's no, right, it's a scam somewhere.
Oh, it could be. It could be.
We have a very special guest coming.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited because I've seen this guy on a lot of other places, but I don't feel like he's ever gotten like the black media tests.

Speaker 1 He can't fuck with us. He can't fuck with us.
He can't fuck with us, though. Yeah, we got him.

Speaker 1 I think so, too. For sure.
I think so. For sure.

Speaker 1 He should be assumed. He should be assuming.
Is there anything that we have to get off of our minds, bodies, and souls before our guest arrives?

Speaker 1 Yo, we're not going to talk about this 5 a.m. in Toronto ref that's allegedly running around because we drinked out.
I just don't believe it. That's why.

Speaker 1 With AI today, I got a homie who hit me up at troll, hit me up ahead of time and said, yo, I'm about to troll these niggas. I said, what you about to do?

Speaker 1 He said, you know how there was always rumors of

Speaker 1 50

Speaker 1 writing the game's entire documentary album? I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to use AI to make reference tracks for the entire

Speaker 1 documentary album. And he did it.
And if you would listen to it and not know any better, you'd be like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 It just confirmed the rumor. That's why today, I don't believe none of this shit no more.
Okay. So the

Speaker 1 all reference tracks using 50s voice. You want to hear them? No.
No, no.

Speaker 1 You know I got them. But yeah, he made all reference tracks of the documentary using 50s voice, the entire album, top to bottom.
The trickery, this trickery. That's just where we are.
Yo.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, on on the internet, for the people that are unaware,

Speaker 1 there are references from allegedly Drake timestamp records. 5-5-AMI Toronto.
5-Am Toronto, which is the best one, in my opinion. No, I'm not rolling.

Speaker 1 My man said it to me last night, and I will say this, I don't know if it's fake or real, but in regards to all the Drake ghostwriting songs, I will say that he made them a lot more swaggier than most ghostwriting situations have worked out.

Speaker 1 All the other big ghostwriting people that we know about, the Dreys, the Puffs, whoever, whoever,

Speaker 1 the reference track was better.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Drake's versions be way better than the reference track. Way better.
So I've got it. Even if it is fake, if it's real, I don't really care.

Speaker 1 But any of the reference tracks that we've heard from Drake shit, he added a lot of swag to them.

Speaker 1 I have to give him that. If it's real, I'm going to care.
I'm just, I don't believe it's real. I don't believe it's real at all.

Speaker 1 Not with the timestamp shit. No.
Even though I do feel like he ain't rapped like that and probably won't be rapping like that anytime soon, I still need more than that, that ref to believe that that's

Speaker 1 the guy on that ref sound like somebody doing a spoof or bad version of hearing Drake rap. No, that guy exists.
I'm not saying

Speaker 1 other records from dude. I just don't know if this is real.
I don't believe that that guy has this ref from however many years ago and sent it to Drake and Drake patterned after that.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that. I just don't believe for that to happen, especially with everything that has been going on with Drake from ghost fighting rumors from years ago that

Speaker 1 this would have made its way out

Speaker 1 before now. I mean, there's been rumblings on it, but I just don't believe this one.
I ain't rolling. Me neither.
I'm different. I got to get more evidence.

Speaker 1 It could be true, but I would have to hear more. And

Speaker 1 a snippet. Wouldn't it be some more fire from that dude?

Speaker 1 My nigga, if you can write that. He's got other records because

Speaker 1 smokers. No, but you could hear the rhyme style.
It's like, oh, shit. I mean, there is some believability in it.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I got to hear more than a Twitter leaked reference. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 I need to see a video of him writing and recording a reference track

Speaker 1 with somebody who died

Speaker 1 maybe a year or so after that happened in the video and both of them saying the date. Like I need unlike the evidence got to be, you can't even dispute it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to still listen to the record regardless, too. Exactly.
Me too. But last time I said this is when the Quentin Miller five fact randomly popped up

Speaker 1 of him doing all your favorite drinks on that album. But it ain't.

Speaker 1 I need more, Paul.

Speaker 1 I'm not rolling with that.

Speaker 1 Not in the slightest. All right.

Speaker 1 All right. We're rolling.
I'm rolling. I'm with you.
I need more, too. To say that a timestamp is not a time stamp.

Speaker 1 You ain't going, hey, I may not have been all the way OVO'd out last last year, but whoever this new nigga is, you can't get me against him.

Speaker 1 Whoever the fuck he is, bro. I do that on my own.

Speaker 1 You, who the fuck are you, nigga?

Speaker 1 Hell, no. Stupid, yeah.
Anyway, all right, what else is important up here? What's up with that Eminem engineer stealing files? Oh,

Speaker 1 one of the Strange brothers got, they found, someone leaked a bunch of Eminem records, and

Speaker 1 I think it was Frederick, a producer, put up some, hey, I'm trying to listen to these songs or whatever, and it traced back to one of the Strange brothers who was selling off shit from the hard drive, from the cuts.

Speaker 1 And they ran down on him, they found all types of sessions, as an engineer would have video, VHS, and all that shit. But apparently, allegedly, he was selling the shit to bootleggers.
Yo,

Speaker 1 it's a whole black market for that.

Speaker 1 It exists. I've seen it.

Speaker 1 You pay them through, they do group buys where they'll set the price dumb high and everybody pitch in.

Speaker 1 You know, they'll put a little something out to just show you. I do have these songs that is real.

Speaker 1 It's hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line, and it'll be a group of people. All right, we all put up whatever, whatever, and they'll sell this.
They'll sell the records. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And there's also a discovery. I just...
How much money you made from that? I haven't. I was tempted, but loyalty.
Because I was very tempted. I was like,

Speaker 1 I might get this Glass House album off, but I wouldn't do it. it

Speaker 1 i was tempted i ain't gonna lie to y'all i've never been tempted

Speaker 1 i was joking on twitter and i was like yo 250k i'll do it and they was like yo if you somebody hit me like you be serious we can get in a group buy and get about 400.

Speaker 1 i was like i think it's odd because the number that they said was fifty thousand dollars that don't really seem like enough

Speaker 1 I've seen one track on there go for

Speaker 1 six figures.

Speaker 1 Dang. Because again, it's a pool of people putting the money together.

Speaker 1 And then it's it's just Bitcoin purchase.

Speaker 1 The star of an engineer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Baby needs shoes.

Speaker 1 With all the credits. With all the credits,

Speaker 1 he can make more than 50 grand.

Speaker 1 My kid can't eat these tracks.

Speaker 1 Yo, you said what?

Speaker 1 You got 14 bricks in that bag right there? Yeah. Mom's spaghetti.
My baby ain't got no spaghetti, nigga. Let this shit go.

Speaker 1 Fuck you,

Speaker 1 I ain't seen nothing. No, no, they ain't nothing.
They're stealing tracks, man. J.R.
was just telling me me he was at Joelle's.

Speaker 1 He said that somebody stole 100 songs, his whole album and shit like that before. That shit fucked up.
That's fucked up. Family.
Bring it to your studio and just raid it and take everything.

Speaker 1 It don't even be that.

Speaker 1 Yo, niggas, I have, right now, I have about, I think, 170 right now, unreleased Chris Brown records, right?

Speaker 1 The way they get the songs. How you got it, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you. Free, what the? I'm going to do it.
For a nigga that's not a part of crime, you do a lot of crime shit. I don't do shit.

Speaker 1 Why you have it in your phone? The crime

Speaker 1 Somebody sent them to me. Yo.
I didn't go get them, but I'm going to tell you how. And that's not with him, but I know certain instances where people just get music like that.

Speaker 1 Yo, you have a group of folks over, you playing music. You dip off, you chilling or something.
Somebody walk right up to your laptop, pop a USB in, and drag it. You don't know nothing.
Gone.

Speaker 1 This has happened a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 You know how fast it is now with Digital Five?

Speaker 1 I'm not a criminal. You're a criminal.
That's crazy. I am not a criminal.
CB going to fucking.

Speaker 1 See y'all people that do that, hit me, and so I can tell you how much you're going to get for some of these artists y'all stealing.

Speaker 1 They sitting here just trying to have like a cool talk.

Speaker 1 I'll get you to save some time. What you mean? What you mean?

Speaker 1 You man. Got this new.

Speaker 1 Got this new such and such. Nigga.
You could have put that back in the computer.

Speaker 1 Don't nobody want that shit.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure that you're stealing the music

Speaker 1 of a desirable act. You spent $17.99 on that flash drive.

Speaker 1 Don't nobody want that bullshit.

Speaker 1 You should have bought some motherfucking five guys with that money. Yeah, you coming to barbershop trying to sell the wrong Ali Vegas, nigga.

Speaker 1 Oh, yo, come on, Joe.

Speaker 1 That's my man. Shout out to Ali Vegas.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, in 2025, you trying to sell it. No, no, no, you're right.
You got that original. Here's my nigga.
You're trying to sell some Joe Button. Hold up now, though.
Hold up. Hold up now.

Speaker 1 Hold up. Don't play too much now.
I got a nice.

Speaker 1 I might sell some Joe Button. I got a nice unreleased 36-pack Joe Button.
Oh, my Lord. Average? Swear to God.

Speaker 1 Free. How much y'all think y'all could sell an Eminem track for today in Newark?

Speaker 1 You wouldn't sell it in Newark, but it ain't gonna go for much if you were trying to sell it on the street. I'm gonna keep it a buck.
Okay. You walk in, I wanna.
I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 No, I walk in with an Eminem track.

Speaker 1 That's the barbershop in the hood. You walk in there with an M ⁇ M track and you're getting Jazzy Jeff.
Turn that shit. But if you go to Supercuts.
Let me ask you something.

Speaker 1 Do you think that you're going to go to a barbershop that's in the hood for life?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 You just like the ambiance that involves. I love the barbershop.
Oh, got it. I love the barbershop.
Sorry. You know shit happened in a barbershop, right? Yeah.
All right, think about it again.

Speaker 1 Let me re-ask.

Speaker 1 Do you think that you're going to go to a barbershop that's in the hood? for life. Who are you talking to?

Speaker 1 Well, you didn't answer, but Freeze answered, so I'm asking. My barber not in the hood.
Well, so I'm talking to Freeze. Yeah, Barbara's in Chinatown.

Speaker 1 The Philippines.

Speaker 1 It's Mal. Welcome.
This barber on top of the restaurant.

Speaker 1 I know the shop.

Speaker 1 You gotta go up the steps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In a story.

Speaker 1 Where the A-bros and shit is out.

Speaker 1 You can't pay to go.

Speaker 1 My niggas is racist.

Speaker 1 Now, Freeze, do you think you're going to go for your whole life?

Speaker 1 No, not my whole life. Freeze likes to.

Speaker 1 But I do like, I do love, I do love it. Freeze is around an area in his mind where he don't, he can hear criminal shit without being a criminal.
That's

Speaker 1 everywhere. Nigga, I'm always in the hood, though.

Speaker 1 I'm not. I don't be outside on the block.
I'm running with you. You're always in the hood.
Them Muslim brothers you be running with. I'm learning all y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 I learned about you, Freeze. You be doing a lot of bullshit to say.
I do bullshit? Yeah. Give me an example, please.
You just around bullshit. Okay, having stealing music is bullshit.

Speaker 1 He did not steal any music. Flip.

Speaker 1 We don't have anything else in music. No, we don't.
No, no.

Speaker 1 I don't do none of that shit no more. Last album, I leaked.
Never mind. Okay, I think it's a good time for our special guest.
Let's get it, man. I think I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Play with him.

Speaker 1 All right, Mike, check, Mike, check. We have a very, very, very special guest.
Let me put my headphones on. Max.
Manies. A guy that is pretty booked and busy.
Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Very difficult to get a hold of this man,

Speaker 1 but somehow he found the time. Appreciate that.
He found the time and the love in his heart to come bless us. Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 Old Sperman in the building. Old Sperman in the building.
Thank you, Joe Budden. Thank you, gentlemen.
Now, now, Old Sperm.

Speaker 1 What is your occupation when you have to write it down?

Speaker 1 That is a good question. Magician.
A liar. No.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a mentalist on paper. You ask my wife, I'm just mental.
But here's what everybody knows what a magician is, right? Everybody knows in their mind.

Speaker 1 You think a magician, you think card tricks. You might think David Blaine, David Copperfield.
You started with a card tricks. I love card tricks.
I love card tricks. Trust me, I love card tricks.

Speaker 1 That was the start. The evolution is now I can do the tricks, but I don't need any props.
It's just in your mind. So it's magic.
of the mind. It's kind of like the next level.

Speaker 1 You've seen a lot of magicians. You haven't seen me.
So it's kind of where I no longer need props. I could, you could drop me off in front of 5,000 people.
It's just me. The show is me.

Speaker 1 I don't need bunnies. I don't need boxes.
No sleight of hand on that type of stuff. I could still do it.
Don't get me wrong, but it's not what I do anymore. Got it.
Gotcha. Okay.
You upgraded.

Speaker 1 That's child's play. Upgrade.
Exactly. Okay.
You have a publicist.

Speaker 1 I have. I feel like

Speaker 1 I guess so. Because this is my thing.
How do you figure out that you can do this?

Speaker 1 Right. How did you learn that you have this gift? Because Magician, I think

Speaker 1 three card money in Vegas. Yep.
I think somebody with the rabbit in a hat. I think the prestige and all these other movies.
Good movie. That's a good movie right there.
That's a best movie.

Speaker 1 Callback right there. One of the best movies ever, the prestige.

Speaker 1 But when I see you, like I learned about you on Hard Knocks. Nice.
Jets fan? And it's Giants, but I watched it.

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, why didn't you tell us what happened to Aaron Rodgers if you're that good?

Speaker 1 Same thing happened to him. Yo, you should have seen how much hate I got.

Speaker 1 For the Jets one? Oh, I mean, when Rodgers went down in the first play, you know, the first, the first drive, and there was like,

Speaker 1 oh, it's the mentalist, what the hell? Yeah, yeah, no. But that looks real.
The reactions look real. Oh, it's all real.

Speaker 1 I feel like this gift has to come from a dark place.

Speaker 1 I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was up watching videos and you're talking about like some devil magic or some shit? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
But that's what I thought. All good.
It all comes from the light. I was like, he's a witch.
Yeah, I feel like. Straight up.
But even that

Speaker 1 witches don't necessarily got to be bad. I'm talking about the ones that they would have had out there in the 1600s.
This is some type of intuitive gift that he has.

Speaker 1 And I'm assuming he's had it since young. Yeah, I got lucky on my timelines.
1600s. I wouldn't be here with you.
I would have been

Speaker 1 first show and burned at the stake.

Speaker 1 So it's a gift, but I would describe it as, you know, you have a gift for music, right? Yes. And so certain people have that, some people don't.
They could train their whole life.

Speaker 1 It's either in you, whether you said God gave it to you or came in you somehow, but you can get better at it. So I think anyone could do what I'm doing in a way.

Speaker 1 They could learn some of the mentalism stuff, but will they get good enough at it to do it at this level? I mean, that's probably a no. Otherwise, there'd be more people.

Speaker 1 But it's kind of a trained talent. It's an innate talent that you could train.
It's kind of like sports. You think everybody, Aaron Rodgers, you think that's all talent? No, that's hard work.

Speaker 1 That's like decades and decades of working your butt off, outworking the person next to you. I outwork my competition at what I do.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 At what age did you first realize, hey, I got something? Yeah, I feel like dad was beating the bricks out of you.

Speaker 1 You needed to start knowing what was on dad's mind before he got hold. I see the belt shake a little.
I'm like, that belt's about to come out.

Speaker 1 And that's one with a buckle, too. That's no good.
No good.

Speaker 1 If my dad hears this, you are not

Speaker 1 beating me. A couple of good slaps.
I think back in the day, a couple of good slaps set you straight, put the fear of God in me. Things have changed now.
Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 So from when you were, let's just say, 10, 12 years old. So I have really good intuition.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you a really unusual story that I can't explain, but my mom, I have twin sisters that are older than me, fraternal. And then when I was a kid, this is a real weird story.

Speaker 1 I always kept having a make-believe, like an imaginary friend. I said, I have a twin.
I have a twin. Like, because I was so obsessed with them having twins.

Speaker 1 And then when I was 12, my mom told me you did have a twin who died at birth and that's a true story she never told me they know how to tell me that I was a twin also and I was born in Israel it was during a war in Lebanon and it was kind of all the doctors were in a different location it was a you know at birth the twin died and it was this weird thing where I'm like I always knew that and it freaked me out and until she told me it never clicked and so I always had very good intuition I'm not psychic I don't believe that I'm psychic it's not supernatural but there's intuitive things that I don't care you know where you are spiritually you've had experiences where you're like how did I know that

Speaker 1 right everyone knows that but we always say nah that wasn't real right, but if you can tap into that there's instinct so a lot of the time when I'm on TV and you see things and people go it's fake I love when haters go it's fake in comments

Speaker 1 That's the that's the best compliment you can give me like have you seen the Joe Burrow clip? Yes. Yes Joe Burrow clips probably most popular.
Have you seen that one? I have here.

Speaker 1 Should I tell you real quick? Sure. Yeah, yeah, tell them.
I'm at the Bengals facility. I go in there with ESPN.
Shout out to my man Adam Schafter.

Speaker 1 And we go in there. They tell us right off the bat, Joe Burrow is not going to be involved.
He's shy. He's a good dude, but he's shy.
It's not his fault.

Speaker 1 And he goes, he doesn't really want to be involved. And they go, don't even call on him.
Nothing. I go in there.
Let me do what I do. I get in there and I warm them up.

Speaker 1 I start freaking out everybody in the team. He's a team leader.
So I get them fired up. Should we get Joe in here? They go, yeah, yeah.
And Joe stands up.

Speaker 1 I have not spoken a word to Joe on the lives of my kids and my wife. And Adam Schefter went on air and told everybody.
Pat McAfee's like, Dave, you talk to him before. He goes, dude, he didn't talk.

Speaker 1 They didn't even say he could use him in the show. I've never talked to this man a word in my life before I tell him to stand up and I say, look around this room.
All my eligible receivers stand up.

Speaker 1 This is tight ends, wide receivers. Everyone stand up.
You know, full depth chart. I say, look at the room, look at me.
I write down, I'm huge, and I show the camera, throw the ball anywhere you want.

Speaker 1 Bam, first person he throws to nailed it. Everyone's like, you know, did he get lucky? I go, double or nothing.
Same thing. Look at it, throws it to another guy, nailed it.
Third time,

Speaker 1 he fakes the Jamar.

Speaker 1 So Jamar, and then he throws to another guy. Boom, exactly.
The play I call. He goes nuts.
And you see, like, Joe Burrow who doesn't react, like, watch the video later.

Speaker 1 So, when you ask me, that is something that I waited two years to do. That I was figuring out how I would do it, what he would do, what would happen.

Speaker 1 How do you, you know, when you walk in a maze, what makes you turn left? What makes you turn right?

Speaker 1 I know if you're gonna turn right, I know if you were about to turn left, we're gonna turn right, and then decide to go left at the end.

Speaker 1 I was in his head more than he was. How does this, how has this gift helped you with exes of yours?

Speaker 1 We got to ask you. How has it helped you

Speaker 1 in your romantic? Sounds like it would be a hindrance, really. Not enough, let me tell you.

Speaker 1 Married 12 years, my powers are only for good now. So, yeah, unfortunately,

Speaker 1 these skills are wasted. You know what I was? In college,

Speaker 1 that boy good. That boy good.

Speaker 1 In college, it didn't help me. It helped all my friends because I was the ultimate wingman.

Speaker 1 They're like, let's get you over here. Yeah, yeah, girls, come on over.

Speaker 1 I line them up, then I move out of the way. My boys are like, yo, that's my guy right there.
And then they go in for the kill.

Speaker 1 It's better than your thumb.

Speaker 1 That's his way of saying. I used to be a pretty good wingman myself.
He's a great wingman. Back in my day.
Back in my day. They didn't even, at first, they would be nice about it.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll buy you a beer. Then, like, dude, just come do tricks for these girls.
I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 1 So you're aware who your competitors are. Sure.
But it's really one of those games where there's not much competition, and this because there's so few of us and there's so much demand.

Speaker 1 And the more people do this, like it's bringing awareness. If you would have talked to people two, three years ago, I think a lot of people in this country would be like, What's a mentalist?

Speaker 1 And now, because of all the sports clips and all these things, it's hit like that level of you're hearing about it more, you know it, and it's kind of defined a genre.

Speaker 1 You know, that's kind of where I'm at with it, right? Because if I'm a competitor of yours,

Speaker 1 still, because it's so, so

Speaker 1 niche, yeah, My success kind of relies somewhat on how well you do. Rising tides lift all ships.

Speaker 1 Like, I got a lot of buddies who were kind of me five, 10 years ago, and they're getting a lot of these things because people hear about them. They call me, they can't afford me.

Speaker 1 They're like, let's take that.

Speaker 1 I can only be one place at a time.

Speaker 1 Something fell. I did that with my mind.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Don't start that shit.

Speaker 1 Don't start shaking the Corey, man.

Speaker 1 Flip might need a change of underwear right now. I don't know what he thought.

Speaker 1 Flip's the one who who said it was devil magic and he's a shit as pants.

Speaker 1 I didn't say nothing, man. I'm just listening.
You thought it, though.

Speaker 1 Flip is afraid to talk right now.

Speaker 1 Like, he's sitting here. He's sitting still.

Speaker 1 This is the most still I've ever seen him. He's got a bottle of holy water in his pants ready.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to figure out where it's, you know, I'm trying to be a mentalist in my own way. Trying to see a suit.

Speaker 1 No, you are. You are in your different kind of business.

Speaker 1 Different

Speaker 1 positions.

Speaker 1 You're out in front of company.

Speaker 1 So, but back to you and your competitors.

Speaker 1 I guess if you all don't succeed as a collective, where does that leave the genre? No, I don't know. That's a great question.
Listen, I'm just trying to always innovate.

Speaker 1 So I keep getting opportunities and I keep trying to do new things. You're trying to ask.
Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 And just kind of do new things that excite me because it's kind of one of those things where...

Speaker 1 Again, great parallel to music. I love comedians.
I love musicians, just things that excite me. And I love watching people who they try and do something where it's not necessarily for other people.

Speaker 1 You do something that makes you excited. The best songs are always ones you didn't try to make a hit.
You just did something that was real and authentic, and then people connect with it.

Speaker 1 That's what I keep doing, where I like to do things where if I'm excited about what I'm doing in the room, other people love it. Like the football, what's the number one thing I would want to do? Bam.

Speaker 1 You're with the quarterback, tell me who he's going to throw the ball to, right? That's a billion-dollar question. So that's what I did.
I said, how could I pull that off? And that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 Did you go through the phase where it's like, okay, before you realized how valuable this thing was, did you go through the phase where, hey, how can I use my gift to just make money?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm doing now still.

Speaker 1 Well, you're killing now. Yeah, listen,

Speaker 1 I'm talking about when you were trying to guess lotto numbers. Oh, I was hustling since I was 13 years old.
So I started doing this when I was 13.

Speaker 1 At 14, I walked half a mile from my house in Farmington Hills, Michigan, got a restaurant job where I was this little four-foot-nothing guy doing card tricks.

Speaker 1 The people are like, what do you want from me right now? And that was the school of hard knocks for me.

Speaker 1 That's literally how I learned to approach people, win people over, and start kind of getting inside their head. Do you play the lottery?

Speaker 1 So I can't win the lottery, true story, because what I do has nothing to do with

Speaker 1 random odds. Does that make sense? No, but it's not

Speaker 1 a psychic could tell you they could know the future. So like, for example, I'm trying to predict the final four.
Yesterday I was on CBS.

Speaker 1 If you didn't see with Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, great clip. I don't know if this is going to air.
And we sealed right there. It's not my bracket.

Speaker 1 I told them straight up, I'm not going to get a a bracket right. That's impossible.

Speaker 1 But to get the final four is not actually as hard as you think. To get the final four is about one in, I think it's 12,000 because you're probably going to get a sleeper.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a Cinderella. No, but think about it.
It's four out of 64. It's not that tough for a year.
Most years, most years, it's one or two one seeds, right?

Speaker 1 So like statistically, I'm telling you, it's not crazy. But to get the Elite Eight.
Guess who wins and get the final four is one out of 25 million at least. Wow.

Speaker 1 So I don't know that I'm going to get it right. I'll tell you right here, right now.
Everyone's like, are you going to bet on it? Hell yeah, I'm betting on it.

Speaker 1 I guess Kenny Smith's pin code. I said, I'm betting on your money, Kenny.
So that's something where it's not a trick. That's where I'm hoping I get it right.

Speaker 1 And I might get one or two wrong, but like, it's kind of like I've guessed Super Bowls, I've gotten four out of five the last five years, but I don't, I didn't get every year. I can't.

Speaker 1 It's not psychic. I don't know the lottery.
That's still pretty good numbers.

Speaker 1 But if you guys were picking the lottery numbers, if you were picking lottery numbers instead of a machine, I bet I could get it. Damn, because you got you.

Speaker 1 Because I know how people think. Got you, got you, got you.
I have a question.

Speaker 1 You're competitors, right? Do you guys

Speaker 1 help each other or look out for one another? Is it like that or is it more competition-based?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a couple people in the biz that are, there's so few of us that are a little more, how would I describe it, competitive in that sense? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But quite frankly, like, I have people, it's probably the same way as

Speaker 1 if you think of comedians who kind of run jokes by each other to punch it up. You know how they do that? Like, give me another tag, do this, features on songs, anything like that.

Speaker 1 I have other people that are really smart thinkers where we bounce ideas off each other. And I I go, what do you think of this? How we do this? And we just kind of, I don't ideate.

Speaker 1 Like when I'm doing a lot of stuff for TV, I got to come up with new things and I have people that I think about it with. I like to run a lot.
I go running and I come up with stuff.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask, or you said that the Joe Burrow thing took you two years to come up with.

Speaker 1 To figure out how I was going to do it. Yeah.
So it wasn't necessarily like a spare of the moment random thing. It was something that you planned out.
Aren't all the best things in life? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, I mean, it looks, that's kind of like the, you know, when you see those divers do eight flips and land perfectly, no splash. It looks so easy.
You go do that, belly flop.

Speaker 1 So it looked easy. It looked easy.
It looked like it was spur of the moment. It is spur of the moment as far as they're concerned, but for me,

Speaker 1 there were hundreds of hours put into the preparation

Speaker 1 into how that would play out. Every possible situation in that room, I kind of accounted for.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 What about like Vegas or card games or dice games or anything like that where the odds are much lower? Right. So what? Do you participate? Are you good at it?

Speaker 1 You know what? If you go in there, you cheat, they kick you out, and then you're blacklisted. So, I've heard from other people.
No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 I need you for macaw.

Speaker 1 He's like, let's go right now. You know what? Let's try something fun.
We'll do a little performance later, but this is what I want Flip to do because he's freaked out at me.

Speaker 1 I'm glad that you know he's freaked out.

Speaker 1 I could go get a deck of cards, right? I'm not going to do that. I'm not doing that again.
But picture this in your hands. Pretend you're holding the deck of cards, right?

Speaker 1 And do some fancy moves for the listeners. Pretend, do fancy moves.
Pretend you're shuffling them. let's see some acting flip

Speaker 1 i don't even know what he's doing right there that looks a little suspect

Speaker 1 he's got the artificial intelligence hands

Speaker 1 imagine that you know what you just drop a few on the ground a few just dropped oh and you're making a little mess it doesn't matter don't mess up the mic and you dropped a few more and then we look down at the deck all these cards and we count them

Speaker 1 and I count the deck and you know how many cards are in a deck 52 52 guess but when I count

Speaker 1 cheater, he's only got 51. Because Flip put one in his pocket, right? You know what I'm saying? He's got one in his body.
Now, hold up, hold up. I want you, watch.

Speaker 1 Don't tell me that card that's in your pocket. You're imagining right now.
Think in your mind, red, black. Don't say anything, red, black.
Think hearts, diamonds, club, spades.

Speaker 1 Hearts, diamonds, club spades. If you have a card in your pocket, I'm punching you in your face.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 1 If you have a card, it's invisible. It's invisible.

Speaker 1 I got it.

Speaker 1 I want to see that. I want to see that.

Speaker 1 You better not have a card in your pocket, pocket, man. Chill out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to clunk you with this cookie on top. Making these jumping here.
Chill out.

Speaker 1 You'll be honest, right? If I guess it's right, look this way.

Speaker 1 Ace 2345, 678, and 10 Jack Queen King. Ace 2345, 6789, 10 Jack Queen King.
You imagined one card. You took it out, you put it in your pocket.

Speaker 1 You didn't really put it in your pocket, but you pretended to. That's what I told you to do.

Speaker 1 Black card, spades. It was a king of spades, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 You can't hear him right now, but he's freaking out with this king of spades.

Speaker 1 It was a king of spades. Yes, it was a king of spades.

Speaker 1 Don't hold the reaction in right now. I feel like I'm selling music.
That actually was thinking of king of spades. What the fuck? What was wrong with you? Because that was a card he gave me.

Speaker 1 Why'd you do it? I didn't give it to you. That was a card I picked.
What was the card he picked? From earlier? It was a king of spades. King of Spades.
Where did he put your pocket? Oh, my.

Speaker 1 The black card.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 He didn't trust to me.

Speaker 1 How much did that?

Speaker 1 Yo, Ian gave you some money outside.

Speaker 1 This was set up. It was the king of spades.
It was. Swear to God.

Speaker 1 Ice.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Don't let him beat the whole room.

Speaker 1 It's impossible.

Speaker 1 He's imagining a card.

Speaker 1 We got an empty chair right there. You see it?

Speaker 1 Listener can't see, but we got Park right here, right?

Speaker 1 But right there is an empty chair.

Speaker 1 And you get to fill in that chair. Okay, and you're going to do it in your mind.
I was going to take your phone out and get a photo, but no, no, I don't even want it. I want it in your head.

Speaker 1 You could, somebody's sitting right there,

Speaker 1 and you know what you're doing? You're on the edge of your seat.

Speaker 1 You got questions lined up, and I make this exciting. Because normally I would think of somebody alive, but dead or alive, man, woman, whatever.
Somebody that you have not had.

Speaker 1 Hold on. If you look over there, I don't put you in the spot.

Speaker 1 Do you know what question you would ask this person? You're not even sure yet. I'm not even sure the question yet.
Okay, you're not even sure the person. All right, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 I think I know. You gotta be under pressure.
You think you know? Here's what I say? Yeah. I don't know.
Don't say it, don't say it.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Come on.
He pulled my books. Here's what I do.
Here's all I do. I got a pad of paper and a marker.
Don't say the name that you think it is because you know him. We just met what?

Speaker 1 When I walked in the door.

Speaker 1 How many letters are in this person's first name that you think he picked? Yeah, I think that you think he picked. Just tell me the number of letters.
Well, don't say it. See, I just watched his face.

Speaker 1 No, no. I don't want you to say.
I could tell just by looking right there at Ice's face that he was wrong. It's not six letters, is it?

Speaker 1 No, it's not. Yeah, it's not six.
You got it wrong. Good try, though.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Stick to your day job. No.

Speaker 1 We just got back to that.

Speaker 1 The listener, who, you know, the person in the comments can be like stage scripted.

Speaker 1 Did before I walked in this room, had we ever spoken a word in our life? No. Is there any, did I tell you who you would have to pick? Did I some way say, you got to go, come on, do this?

Speaker 1 I'll slip you 100? Nothing, right? Nothing. He could have thought of anybody.

Speaker 1 All right, he's gonna get it wrong.

Speaker 1 We got this. Look how he's got his arms locked around.
Yeah, no body language. No, but no, the body language is clear.
You got hands crossed and legs crossed. That's 100% a dude vibe.
It's a guy.

Speaker 1 I know you picked a guy. If it was a woman, you got to spread them out a little more.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can't be that tight.

Speaker 1 You can't be that tight.

Speaker 1 You got to give him room to breathe. You can't be that tight.
That's a guy. That's a guy.

Speaker 1 That's a guy vibe with the pelvis. Loosen up in your hips.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 When you said six to him,

Speaker 1 you know what I saw?

Speaker 1 It's too much. Name shorter.

Speaker 1 Ice, close your eyes. Mm-hmm.
Yo, don't close your eyes when I do tell you.

Speaker 1 No, no. I want to show everybody in the room, and I want to show you.
Are your eyes closed? Come on, yeah, 20.

Speaker 1 Folks, don't say this out loud. Don't say this out loud.
Everyone in the room, get a peek. If you guys saw it, say yeah.
That better not be.

Speaker 1 No way. I will fight this shit out of free.

Speaker 1 So everybody knows, as everyone, all of you say yeah, if you just saw what I wrote down, I don't know. I can't change my mind.

Speaker 1 Ice, ice, open your eyes. Someone sitting right in that chair is only in your brain.
You're seeing him right there in that chair. Anyone, anyone has said, who's sitting in that chair? Tell us.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say it, yo.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo,

Speaker 1 Chris Brown. Chris Brown.
Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 That was an easy one. That's an easy one.
I'm not blowing away my.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah. You sick nigga.
Think that man. I'm fucking up.

Speaker 1 Sensational.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, dog.

Speaker 1 Yo, why the fuck? You at work thinking about Fritz Brown?

Speaker 1 Yo. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He said somebody that I would love to have on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you know what? Throw a curveball over the place.

Speaker 1 I thought it was Nipsey. God damn.
That's why I said sick. I thought it was Nipsey.
I was doing it. Yo.
Who? I thought it was Jesus.

Speaker 1 I was saying either him, I was Alan Iverson or Chris Burnham.

Speaker 1 Exactly what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 Yo, see, good thing I don't have this gift, boy. You niggas will be in trouble.

Speaker 1 Look at Park's all nervous over there now.

Speaker 1 My ass crap.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to. Yo, hold on.
What's up? What's up? Come on. Yo, I ain't spoke the dude.
But that was an easy one.

Speaker 1 I don't think it was that hard neither. If he picked mine.
Well, you was wrong. Parks, Parks, I'm not the wall, but how much history you got with Joe? How long you known Joe? Since what, 07, 08?

Speaker 1 Somebody's like, hold on, Parks. Coming up on

Speaker 1 almost 20 years, right? Yeah. Not quite.
So, you know, you lose your bank card.

Speaker 1 They call you up and they go, Parks, how do we know you're really you and not the guy who stole the card? Right. So they say, what's your mom's maiden name? But hear me out.

Speaker 1 Mom's maiden name, they don't say that anymore. Because my mom's on Facebook.
You want to know who my mom is? She likes every photo. She comes

Speaker 1 my number one fan.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's not a good question. What I like to ask people is ask me a question that nobody would know.
Even your boy from 17 years, he's not going to know this. True.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So when I walked in this room, full transparency, I walked up to parks, I said, come up with the question. Don't say it to anybody.
Don't write this question down. Don't nothing.
Think of a question.

Speaker 1 that none of us would know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There is no way in the world I could know what that question is. Could I? No, not a chance.
No one in this room would know what the question is. Forget the answer.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about even what question you're going to ask. It's not mother's made name, is it? No.
Okay, so. Of course not.

Speaker 1 If you ask the question out loud, you put it out in the universe, could any of us know the answer? No. Okay.
What's the question?

Speaker 1 When we were teenagers, a couple of my friends, when we would get real fucked up, would say a phrase to each other. Okay, okay.
No more. Don't say anything more.

Speaker 1 Imagine you're in front of a keyboard, but with computer, different than thumbs is texting. Put your hands like on a keyboard right now in front of you.
You gotta uncross your legs.

Speaker 1 See, I feel like now you're cheating.

Speaker 1 I want you to imagine

Speaker 1 that you type the answer. You don't have to actually move your fingers.
You just got to think about it. Okay.
All right. Look what he did.
I saw it. See, why did I position him like that?

Speaker 1 I like how flip it still shook up from before. You see this? It's like, how?

Speaker 1 How'd you know he's a king of space?

Speaker 1 You tapped your thumb once. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 what's on a keyboard everyone take a moment space bar space bar space bar ish boom you did that

Speaker 1 in between two words it's two words isn't it the answer is two words it is two words yeah what are you going yeah two words how would i know that he acted like that was normal all right hold on

Speaker 1 yeah he's sleeping on yeah and that was eight of course it's two words

Speaker 1 yeah that was easy all right don't handle your bread drink which word is more interesting to you the first one or the second one or you don't care don't care don't care don't care. Right.

Speaker 1 Think of either word. You do it.
Okay. You thought of the second word? No.

Speaker 1 No? Yeah, Parks. Oh, good.
I like his moving around. See, he's the opposite.
He does the opposite. He looks this way when he looks that way.
He's kind of, watch, now we'll figure him out.

Speaker 1 You're thinking of the first word, then pick any letter in the first word. Don't tell me which one.
All the letters in front of you, boom.

Speaker 1 You grab one out and you take that letter like it's a scrabble tile and you can hold it in your hand. Can you see that letter? Yes.

Speaker 1 So, what he did is he looked at the first letter because his eyes went to the left. That's the first letter.
We read left to right, but he does the opposite.

Speaker 1 You didn't think of the first letter, did you? No. See, he did that to look to throw me off.
Come on, who are you talking to right now? Yeah, that's what he did at the little secret meeting.

Speaker 1 I think you jumped

Speaker 1 and then you grabbed one, and I thought it was like right near the middle, but it wasn't in the middle. It's not the last letter, is it either? No.

Speaker 1 N. Are you thinking of an N? I am.
You are.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, Park. See, See, that's real talk right there.
He just thought of a letter. I knew it was an N.
It sounded like an M in my mind.

Speaker 1 Is there, on a scale of one to 10, you've seen all the stuff I've done, but this is for you. You called me out.
Where on a one? Ten is impossible. Impossible.
Where does this fall for you?

Speaker 1 Eight.

Speaker 1 How do we make it a 10?

Speaker 1 Hold on. I got it.
I got the second word. Yo, Parks, if you let him make it a 10 right now.
He said, I have the second word. Yeah, you had an eight for the first word.

Speaker 1 But when I go right there,

Speaker 1 when I wrote this

Speaker 1 you better not you want me to show you or you want me to just say it to you say it yeah yeah your boy's here you see him you're nine years old you're high five bing chow

Speaker 1 how the fuck did you get that

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 wait wait wait wait is it bing chow it's bing chow is that right holy yo what the fuck is going on bro

Speaker 1 that was a good way to i see what you tried to do though what in terms of the throw off like the bing yeah that was a great

Speaker 1 that's a good whatever you call that yeah

Speaker 1 and he came up with this shit this little peter parker look

Speaker 1 this guy is

Speaker 1 great

Speaker 1 and you like a time traveler or something like you that's what pat mcfee calls me

Speaker 1 his pen and his little pad to write on you know no pens no pads no nothing you got him joe you got me good joe

Speaker 1 Have you written down a thing? Have you written down anything? Have you whispered something to somebody? Have you said anything to anyone in this room?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 When I walked in here again, we had like one minute before I came on air, and we mentioned something interesting, which is the fact that yesterday I had somebody think of someone that had passed away, and I shared that with you.

Speaker 1 It's like it was a weird thing at a show, and they said, This person, are they alive and dead? I'm like, I think they're dead because it's just their body language.

Speaker 1 And you told me you had thought of someone a few days ago where you were going through your phone, and they popped up, and it was someone who passed away. Is that right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not guessing that person. Nothing to do.
You shared that information with me. So I don't people think later, oh, he told him, so he's using it.

Speaker 1 but that's something weird which just popped in your head something just popped in your head that you weren't expecting yeah and i said to you think of someone

Speaker 1 in your phone that you have not talked to in a while that you've literally you have not talked to this person in a while hasn't been the last day or two otherwise too recent you might have just said their name on the podcast guy or girl

Speaker 1 and i want you to think of that person and then what if we called them right now what if we call them right now put them on air everyone heard it and you said to them a word two words three words like something a phrase something that they would understand and none of us would get like bing chow can you close your eyes close your eyes and and

Speaker 1 think of what you why you were talking right now think of what you would say to them a man tell you close your eyes your first thought is to puck her up yeah

Speaker 1 just to cheat was it tell me it was two words right uh yeah two words open your eyes

Speaker 1 Notice your body language earlier, ice was tight, you went open. I think it's a female.
You were thinking of a female. Am I

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Come on. That's easy.
Yeah, that is easy.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know me. Joe's like, I'm not thinking of any guys.
You met my girl.

Speaker 1 My girl do this every night.

Speaker 1 I'm in a trainer. She's like, look at him.
Joe, you think of another girl?

Speaker 1 I tried to make it a guy. Get in.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, baby. What do you do? Call her by her name or a nickname?

Speaker 1 That's a jam question. That's a good question.

Speaker 1 I don't know the answer to that. Perfect.
That's good. That's good.
I don't know if this is a real name or fake name.

Speaker 1 Shit. You just think they call her.
A mother name to heaven?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Taw.

Speaker 1 Solid. Solid.

Speaker 1 Pick a letter. You know what? Same thing I did Parks.
Pick a letter. Here's her name or her nickname, God given name.
Maybe her

Speaker 1 letter already, bro. I'm not him.
I'm him. I'm not him.
I'm him.

Speaker 1 Like, know who you're dealing with here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. See that? Yeah.
Felt like more than one. Felt like more than one.
Bitch.

Speaker 1 The letter you just thought of.

Speaker 1 There's more than one of it in the name, isn't there?

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's more than one.

Speaker 1 There's more than one. It's like Michelle with two L's.
I saw it. I looked at two of them.
Okay, probability you're doing a probability. I'm not doing probability.
Okay, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 And you're thinking of me. My name's a weird one.
O's. O'Z Z.
You thought of a Z, didn't you? I did think of a Z. And it sounds like the word Jasma.
Jasma. Is that her name?

Speaker 1 What the?

Speaker 1 No way. No!

Speaker 1 No, hey, get off! Get off!

Speaker 1 No, what the?

Speaker 1 And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the kids. If it wasn't

Speaker 1 fucking Z's. Hey, that was fucking impressive.
Wait, wait. He was going to call her on the phone.
He was going to call her on the phone. And he said he was going to tell her two words.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah, it's a word.
Two words. Oh, you better get.
Man, that was all good.

Speaker 1 Turn it up. Do it.

Speaker 1 Do it. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 Was he going to say a place? That was my first, my first instinct was he's going to tell her a place. Why was it a place? But now he's looking away.
No, it's not a place. I'm viewing.

Speaker 1 Do they know Jasma?

Speaker 1 Y'all know Jasmine? I don't know why names of the jasmine. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think he knows her through someone. I think it's not a place.

Speaker 1 I think he knows her through someone. Somebody connected.
Somebody, you don't talk to her. You know her through someone else.
Sums up. Sums up.
Two words?

Speaker 1 Two words? You know what?

Speaker 1 I'm about to go block you from the girl page. I know that much.

Speaker 1 Joe, how about this? You go

Speaker 1 in another room. In another room.
Timestamp all of this

Speaker 1 you know. You said it's my pen.
This is a pen. I don't care what I don't want to write it because people can't hear it when we're on there.

Speaker 1 What if, what if you write this down somewhere or you don't want to write it? I wrote it. Oh, no, no, you're not writing anything.
There's nothing here. Here,

Speaker 1 how could I reveal this? I don't want to show anything visual. I don't want to just say it.
Think of the first word: it's a guy. Somebody knows the two of you.

Speaker 1 Two words. Is it a first and last name? Common ones.
Yo, Michael Paul.

Speaker 1 You took MP work again? No, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's a joke, yo. It's just a writing.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 The guy's good.

Speaker 1 The guy's good. Yo, this is scary.
I ain't gonna hold you. You got me what you want.

Speaker 1 I'm dumbfounded.

Speaker 1 I got a headache. I'm trying to think of how he's doing.
I tried to throw him off. Yeah.
I tried to just think shit that had nothing to do with me at all.

Speaker 1 God damn.

Speaker 1 I've never heard Joe Button this quiet in my whole life. Yeah.
No, you're good. Nah.
If my girlfriend got in touch with you.

Speaker 1 I got some of your powers.

Speaker 1 It's over. That is ridiculous.
Where does somebody learn how to do this? And my books are.

Speaker 1 My book's coming out at where? My book's coming out later this year. And what happens when

Speaker 1 you're...

Speaker 1 What happens when you're

Speaker 1 my daughters become teenagers? They're going to be in a lot of trouble that's true yeah that's a good point or when you're negotiating don't tell them

Speaker 1 i'm pretty good with negotiations don't say but you fucking are

Speaker 1 yeah don't say what are the downsides of the gift uh

Speaker 1 your mind's always racing

Speaker 1 you know i'm always thinking but i think that's like anybody it's kind of adhd i'm always thinking of stuff i'm always watching stuff but it's it's a switch it's not like uh it's with me all the time i got to focus to do it you see what i'm saying it's kind of you got to turn it on yeah you got like some gil grissom shit going on with you what is gil grissom gil grissom was the guy on the original csi okay um

Speaker 1 but he was the one he was like the mind is it annoying i feel like you can read people so well like is it annoying like meeting people and kind of like seeing through liars bullshit immediately not really

Speaker 1 I'm fine with it. I feel like it would ruin my social...

Speaker 1 I feel like I can read people pretty well and I don't want to hang out with people because I could tell they're full of shit.

Speaker 1 At your level, I feel like you must not want to talk to anybody.

Speaker 1 It would go down that path a little bit, but no, I still enjoy it. You see it, do you? I try to turn off the mentalist stuff when I'm in day-to-day for the sake of like your mind not racing.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like revving an engine. It takes a lot of focus to do it.

Speaker 1 Do you ignore it at times? Like if you're talking to somebody just casually and you see the bullshit and it's like, eh, you know what? I know you're bullshit. I'll ignore it and still.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's good when you're interviewing people or negotiating. That's negotiating.
Negotiating.

Speaker 1 They don't stand a chance. No chance.
Where do you stand on ayahuasca? I've never done ayahuasca, but I mean, I'm all for it. I've got a bunch of buddies that have done it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I think psychedelics are a...

Speaker 1 Have you ever done mushrooms or any psychedelic at all? I've done psychedelics, yeah, for sure. Okay.
I've had some of my best ideas on it. I was about to say, life changing.
Does it heighten

Speaker 1 your existing gift? You want to hear a funny story? I mean, this is a great story. So

Speaker 1 this was in Amsterdam before weed was legal. And I'm not a big cannabis guy, but like, I don't know.
I'm just not back in the day, high school, different story.

Speaker 1 I'm in Amsterdam, and there's tricks that I would do that were magic tricks, not like this, even though this stuff will freak you out too, but I would do tricks that were designed specifically for stoners back then.

Speaker 1 And I had a card tricks. It's easy work.
Easy work, but there's ones that really mess with you. So in Amsterdam, there's a guy, I meet them, and this is before weed was legal here.

Speaker 1 You know, you go to Amsterdam, I was on a layover, it's a big deal to go to like Bulldog Cafe and smoke. And I meet this group where one dude's on mushrooms and he's really tripping hard.

Speaker 1 And I walk up to him and we're doing, I do some card tricks. Everyone's kind of cool.
And then I have one for him. That's like the trick.

Speaker 1 And it's one where I tell somebody, pick a card and they hold it in their hand face up. So you hold it in your hand.
Like imagine king of spades for you right there, flip. And he's holding the card.

Speaker 1 And I take the other card and I just wave them. I go slow.
I go, don't blink. And he's holding the card and I wave the cards over.
And when I move the card slow, the card shrinks.

Speaker 1 To one quarter the size like like a mini card just in his hand. He looked at the card He looked at me He looked at the card He looked at me He dropped the card and he ran

Speaker 1 out.

Speaker 1 Yes. And yo, I left two and a half hours later to go to the airport.
They still didn't know where he was. He was black, right? Well, he was white.
He was white.

Speaker 1 I would like to see him like talk to big mama.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, she's kicking him out.

Speaker 1 Quick, you get out of here.

Speaker 1 I wonder if that guy remembers that. Like, I just want to know.
I'm hoping he's safe. I'm hoping he's okay.
I hope he's seen my success and been like, yo, that guy really messed me up in Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 But I'll never forget that guy with pupils that were the size of his eyes. Looked at me, thought he just saw God.
Like, not even in me. He thought,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he did not even know what hit him. I think the whole universe deconstructed in front of him.
You still know how to do that trick? I still do, but I don't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 It's like kind of a little sleight of hand thing. I still do, though.

Speaker 1 You were saying earlier that a couple minutes ago, that thinking, you think a lot, right? So,

Speaker 1 where do you have to go to or you know, sort of decompress or think less? Like, what do you have to do?

Speaker 1 Is it in in your room is it with your family me with my kids i i can't be thinking what's that no it's a great question yeah no but i think i think when you're with your family it kind of just there's so much input i have four kids and so none of the one on the way god bless and it's a very busy hour congratulations yo

Speaker 1 don't congratulate me congratulate my wife she does all the hard work

Speaker 1 that part too but uh but i think with kids i try to be present i'm gone a lot so when i'm home i try to really be present and enjoy them and like you can't be thinking when there's kids running around doing this it's it's it's chaos it's my favorite kind of chaos and you say you have to focus so much that and they don't like it so i'm on tv they're like i was on right before the super bowl biggest appearance of my life my kids i go do magic shows at their school but i'm not that good at these magic shows haven't done them in like 20 years and these kids eat you alive they're like what's in your hand let me see your thumb oh my god open your pocket there's definitely something in your pocket like yo

Speaker 1 get your hand out my pocket i'm like rethinking my career choice after this one show i came home and one of our friends in the building saw me he thought somebody died my face was like ash like what just happened i go i think i think i got to quit my job.

Speaker 1 My second grader, just like they just destroyed me.

Speaker 1 And so, when I did the Super Bowl, they call me on FaceTime right afterwards, biggest appearance ever. Randy Moss freaking out, Adam Schefter was on ESPN right before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And they go, Just you talk too much. Do the trick with the candy because I have a trick where I just make candy appear.
They're like, Just do that one. Yeah, do that.
You do that one.

Speaker 1 Like, like great directorial notes. Like, stop doing all the tricks with the mind stuff.
Just make more candy pop. Yep.

Speaker 1 That was it. That's the one that

Speaker 1 brought me right back down.

Speaker 1 That's it. Is it tough? Is it tough for you, like it is for me, to explain to my partner that I had a long day of work? Like, she's just like, you talk for a living.

Speaker 1 But you were just like, I traveled.

Speaker 1 So, like, I'm traveling like crazy. Like, if you see my schedule next week, I have six shows in four days.
I cross the country twice.

Speaker 1 I got two red eyes where I'm sleeping on planes, waking up at 8 a.m. I'm already on stage for 3,000 people.
So, how many days out the year are you going? Probably about 115. Oh, wow.
Damn. Gosh.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're getting to it. You get a bag.

Speaker 1 3,000 people? Oh, yeah, we pocket watch up here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, up here. Up here.
And

Speaker 1 the person that's nearest you in your competition,

Speaker 1 do they do venues in similar size?

Speaker 1 Or do they have a touring outfit set up? So I don't tour as much, interestingly enough. I do some a little bit of that, but I do corporate events.

Speaker 1 So I kind of went, I cut out where you would think to yourself normally.

Speaker 1 I don't negotiate. You get your mother negotiator.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's always better when somebody spends not their own money. When I'm buying tickets for a show,

Speaker 1 how much is this show? What is it coming? Nabisco, you say.

Speaker 1 Biscuit money. Biscuit money, Joe.

Speaker 1 So, no, I just do all different corporate events. I do some other things, but the TV stuff, but again, I don't even see this competition because I...

Speaker 1 We turn down much more shows than we take in, which is really a great problem to have, but it's from all the exposure from TV and then really focused in the last few years on social media and saw that in ways where I think some people really didn't understand the power of viral clips and consistency.

Speaker 1 And what it could do for dope. I mean, if you're on TikTok, hundreds of millions of views, people see like the right clips, like a Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 I literally carpool with a couple other dads and moms in this thing. They don't know what I do.
I look like an accountant. Gil Grissom right there.
This one guy thought I was a lawyer.

Speaker 1 He's like, he goes and he shows me his phone. Three people send him to Joe Burrow in the same week.
He goes, Joe, that dude looks just like you. I'm like, that is me.
He's like, how do you do this?

Speaker 1 He's like, this is what you do for a job. He's like, I thought you were a a lawyer.
I'm like, yeah, I never said anything.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's, you know, it's kind of a niche.

Speaker 1 Did it change how they talk to you? Not really. Because, you know, now people thinking, oh, now when he says to me, I can't take the kids from Subway Pool.
I'm like, I know what you're really doing.

Speaker 1 I know what's going on.

Speaker 1 What? No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 What? Don't lie and say you're sick. That's a fake call.

Speaker 1 I'm so upset that he won here. I'm saying.
I thought that we would be the place to stumble.

Speaker 1 I'm still waiting for mom. Oh, yeah.
His broken foot's throwing me off. I can't get in his head.
You know what? We'll try one thing. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Get him-ish. Oh, you're smiling already.
Isha, you're the last

Speaker 1 hope, ish. The last hope is down.
You can't sweep the room.

Speaker 1 We can't repeat. I can't have you do like what he did.
I can't even do it. It's got to be something new.
Something new. So, but, you know what, your phone, grab your phone.
You thought of somebody.

Speaker 1 And you thought of Jasmine. There was a reason you picked that person.

Speaker 1 For some reason, she popped in your head. No, you're not in trouble.
I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 That you think.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Go to your contacts, but hold the phone where I can't see it. Hold the phone where I can't see it.
Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I'll stop talking to you again, nigga.

Speaker 1 Depending on what he pulls out of there.

Speaker 1 Shit can get tricky.

Speaker 1 Start looking through. Oh.

Speaker 1 Is that Galaxy? What do you got? I don't know how to.

Speaker 1 I don't know. And Galaxy, does it tell you how many contacts you have or no? This is.
I got a fucking thing. He's setting you up.
It does.

Speaker 1 a bottle. He's got too many.
No, this guy's popular. Oh, no, this one's just popular.
Light flex.

Speaker 1 Extremely popular. Light flex.
All right. You're looking through.
Ice, can you see? Can you see? He's got a privacy screen. He's got a private.
You can't see anything. All right.

Speaker 1 Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to move the mic over, and you're not mobile.
The foot, the Achilles. You're going to tip your phone.
So Ice can't see it and you can't see it.

Speaker 1 Now, if you just hold, if you just hold somebody by accident, it's a butt dial. I don't want you to butt dial.
That's important. Here, can you bring the phone closer?

Speaker 1 I don't want to see, but I want you to do it.

Speaker 1 Is it scrolling? Yes. So you're going to do this.
I don't know if you can see. Can you see it?

Speaker 1 A little bit. You're going to scroll, but go up and down.
And whenever you want, can you see? Is it moving?

Speaker 1 You're going to stop somewhere. And I want you to stop, but it's very important.
Don't accidentally butt dial or call something. You're just going to keep scrolling like I would do it.

Speaker 1 Hold it like this lower. Like flip your hand.
Start scrolling. Look when you're done.
Give it a couple scrolls. Now, is he going down? Is he going up? Is he going to go to A? Is he going to go to Z?

Speaker 1 Whenever you want to say, I'm done.

Speaker 1 Scroll, come on, man. I'm done.
Bring him close to your body. Hold on.
Now, hold on. Before he looks, it's not one name.
Does everybody understand? If it's one name, he did it wrong.

Speaker 1 He should be on a list. If you take and go through, you just end up on a list.

Speaker 1 And I don't know where you started. Do you start at the top? So probably in the A's, or do you probably didn't start at the bottom? In the middle is good.
All right. Give him too much.
Bring it.

Speaker 1 Don't tell him.

Speaker 1 He's not your friend, yo.

Speaker 1 And don't look, Ice. He's tricking you.
I'm looking away.

Speaker 1 Now, you're going to see a bunch of names.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to have you do this.

Speaker 1 Look at a name somewhere in the middle. So you get to choose and try to.

Speaker 1 Okay. You see one? Put it back to your chest.
How many names were on that whole screen?

Speaker 1 Probably 15, 20. So it's impossible, right? Even if I gave you the phone and said, look at all the names, you couldn't know who you just pick.

Speaker 1 I debate. I was trying to see the body language.
It wasn't a shift. It wasn't noticeable.

Speaker 1 Did you pick a guy? No. Oh,

Speaker 1 he does have a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Way to go. You pass the test.
He wears a lot of long jars.

Speaker 1 Think of her. You know what? Here's what I want to do.
I'm going to let you change in the middle. Look back at that person's name.
Was it a first and last name? That I picked? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at that name wherever it is in the middle.

Speaker 1 And I want you, I'm going to see if I can see the difference when he changes. Watch.
Keep looking.

Speaker 1 Don't change where you're on the screen, but with your eyes, just keep going up until you run out of names to look at, till you get to the top of the list.

Speaker 1 It's like three girls, then one guy, then two. Then you ended on another girl.
Person at the top, is it a female? It is.

Speaker 1 See, because you did the same thing. I'm always watching for tells.
The tells are when people do something different. Don't talk to me.
Do you know her?

Speaker 1 Do I know the girl that's at the top of my list? Yeah, whoever you looked at last. The last person you did, you registered different.
You looked like you had a very different expression.

Speaker 1 Do you know her well?

Speaker 1 We cool.

Speaker 1 Look this way at me. We cool.

Speaker 1 Put the phone down. Something there.
I shouldn't, you know, I'm going for it. Think about this.
He picked anywhere in his phone.

Speaker 1 He picked any name he wanted he changed name what six seven times

Speaker 1 it's not a family member said we cool never that no no

Speaker 1 family member doc you got him

Speaker 1 he keep everybody falling those

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 hey doc is killing a girl and not family this is so unbrand

Speaker 1 it's a first and last name

Speaker 1 think of her first name

Speaker 1 it's kathy Lee or some shit. That's on my phone now.
Okay. Yeah.
Because this is different than the assignment that you gave me. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Forget assignment.

Speaker 1 No, he thought of somebody famous. I want you to do something fresh.

Speaker 1 Come on. I'm not doubling down.

Speaker 1 I wonder who this is. Me too.

Speaker 1 I'm on the edge of my seat. I mean,

Speaker 1 Parks, you had theories. Parks, the whole time, had theories.
He goes, oh man, maybe, maybe, maybe he knew what he was going to pick, or maybe

Speaker 1 he's going to leave you. He's going to try to deconstruct us.
But how could this be? Yeah, he changed his mind five or six times.

Speaker 1 I want to know this girl, you think of me. Think of the first letter.

Speaker 1 Do you speak Spanish? No, no, he was about to say poquito. Do you see that? Yep.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was.

Speaker 1 Okay, I think so. He rolled his tongue.
Rolled. What's the first letter of her name? First letter.
On my phone.

Speaker 1 R. R.
I knew it was an R. I knew it.
I knew it. And now, what names with an R?

Speaker 1 Damn. Joy.

Speaker 1 Yo, I got it. I got it.
That's a fucking D. Oh, yeah, that's definitely a sexy name.
That's a sexy name.

Speaker 1 That's definitely it. Punch.

Speaker 1 He didn't write anything. He didn't say anything.
He didn't do anything. He didn't whisper.
He looked at his phone. He changed his mind a bunch of times.
You know that boy. Tell us all.

Speaker 1 What's her first name? That was on my phone. You keep saying on your phone,

Speaker 1 Renee. Renee.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Jesus, Marion Joseph, man.

Speaker 1 What What the hell is going on in here?

Speaker 1 Bro, what the fuck is going on, yo?

Speaker 1 Hey, I like your poker face. Yeah, you like it.
You do that. I like your poker face.
You fought. You fought.
You fought. That was a one.
You fought that nigga. You fought the good fight.

Speaker 1 You fought that man. You're still smoking, boy, man.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 This guy, man.

Speaker 1 I'm speechless. Yeah, that's something different.
I don't. Well, now, at least I like the...
I like the way Ice came into this thinking we're going to get this guy. That was the first time.

Speaker 1 We all came.

Speaker 1 Me too. I was like, he's never been on anything black.
No, you know what?

Speaker 1 And the assignment that he gave me, he gave me a person. He said, yo, pick somebody that you would have on the couches.
So, you know, when my brain started going, I'm like,

Speaker 1 he might watch the show. So I was like, no, I'm not going.
You know, my normal Highly Bury J-Lo. So if he would have picked that other person,

Speaker 1 yeah, it would have been. I was like, and I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 I'll leave that in the back. That's a hanging thing.
I told Ice who the person was. I was like, he can't.

Speaker 1 Nobody in here would be like that. Yeah, I wouldn't even have guessed it.
Yeah. That was extremely impressive.
No, that was a good idea. I can't lie to you.
That was amazing.

Speaker 1 All right, so all skepticism is out the window now, right? Yeah, it's something, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's something going on. Yeah, there's something there.
I don't know what it is, but

Speaker 1 Bing Chow.

Speaker 1 How do you pull that? How do you pull that

Speaker 1 nickname? Yo, dog, how do you pull that? I even went and searched to see if you ever tweeted that phrase. Never.
You didn't? Never.

Speaker 1 I didn't even say the phrase. It was my friends that said the phrase to each other.
That was crazy, yo.

Speaker 1 Bing Chow?

Speaker 1 I don't know what it means.

Speaker 1 Listen, Listen, he got me twice, doubled in mine. He guessed one name and then another name that was two names.
And the best trick is I made Flip disappear in the middle. So

Speaker 1 that car fucked me up.

Speaker 1 Yo, that car, that car fucked him up. Flip had to change his drawers.

Speaker 1 Flip his eye. Yeah, that really fucked him up.

Speaker 1 Where can people see you? Where can people? Best way to find out where I'm going to be is my socials. It looks like Oz.
Everybody blame my parents' Israeli name, but it looks like Oz.

Speaker 1 So it's at Oz the Mentalist, but it's Oz, so it sounds like somebody owes you money. At Oz the Mentalist.
It's you know, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, everything.

Speaker 1 But typically, you're gonna see me a lot on TV. I got a lot of things coming up, a lot of sports teams I do, a lot of stuff with CNBC, so finance.

Speaker 1 Nabisco. Nabisco, yeah.

Speaker 1 All the big corporate companies. Come on.
Corporate money. And then, yeah, you know what? Just working on a bunch of new fun things.
And the book, you said?

Speaker 1 I got a book coming out at the end of the year. Yes, and the book is coming out at the end of the year.
The book is going to be, the book is not, I'm not going to teach you to do this. Oh, damn it.

Speaker 1 That's what I was about to ask. I was about to say the 40th.
The 49th Law of Power? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So honestly,

Speaker 1 it's a lens of, here's the key is you can see what I do, how to read people more effectively, but it's for the sake of entertainment.

Speaker 1 But what if you could take some of these skills, right, these principles of mentalism, apply them to your everyday life?

Speaker 1 You know, in relationships, at work, like knowing when's the right time to go to your boss and ask for that raise, or what's your right moment? How do you remember things better?

Speaker 1 How can you get inside other people's heads?

Speaker 1 it's going to be better for negotiations know if people are lying to you just tips and tricks that are very useful all right and that book is banned in america

Speaker 1 i hope not poster needs to go get big jesus i'm gonna buy that book yeah no i'm gonna i'm getting that book that is kind of i'm getting that little show you pulled today that was yo that's nuts Flip is still showing.

Speaker 1 I'm a little bit worried about Flip right now. I'm a little worried.
We're going to ask him to leave in a second. It's all right.
He can't get in your mind anymore, buddy.

Speaker 1 Flip, look at me. Think of your social security ATM.
No, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy one. I saw you do the pin number joint? Yeah, with Kenny.

Speaker 1 No, that was

Speaker 1 a football player or something. With DK?

Speaker 1 Had him so,

Speaker 1 and then had two teammates stand up. What's your jersey name? Oh, no, that was Josh Allen.
Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 That was absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 That was certain things took ears. I like to run and run like marathons, ultra marathons.
I was out running right before that was going on. I was in Pittsburgh because they were playing the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I I was running 20 miles and at mile 18, I figured out how I was going to finish that trick because I didn't know how to end it. I didn't know how it would end at the end.

Speaker 1 I was like, came to me, and it was an hour later. We did that for Josh Allen.
So sometimes it's, man, serendipitous. I got a question for you that has nothing to do with anything that we've discussed.

Speaker 1 It has nothing to do with any mentalist shit. I just kind of want to know where you stand.
Hit me.

Speaker 1 Who was wrong between Sig Fried and Roy and the Tiger?

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 which side are you on? I've heard varying accounts on that one, one, but he didn't even blame the tiger.

Speaker 1 Because I guess if the tigers, again, I don't want to misspeak here, but those tigers have certain rules where like you can't do certain things, like chimpanzees.

Speaker 1 You know, chimpanzees, if they see you feed another chimp and not them, they'll tear you to shreds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they will. There's like big things where food, you can't bring food in with chimps.
And those chimps are so strong, they could rip your limbs crazy. Literally.

Speaker 1 You ever see that person who got their face ripped off? You're like, yo, horrific. So with the tigers, I think there's certain things where they don't think they're biting you.

Speaker 1 Because think a tiger that big, if they even play bite you like my dog bites me he's 10 pounds nothing yeah a tiger play bites you you're dead yeah so my understanding is something happened that I don't know what it was but it was like some sort of thing that was a cardinal rule that you don't do and he didn't know like he knows how to deal with tigers but something happened where he didn't blame him like he did something wrong or he had a smell on him or something weird and that they found out afterwards and that was

Speaker 1 what a reference though Joe Siegfried and Roy throwback

Speaker 1 and I don't know if you've seen

Speaker 1 the clip that's been going around on the internet for a few years, I want to say,

Speaker 1 of the elephant. Did you see the clip of the

Speaker 1 elephant that runs after the

Speaker 1 tourists?

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw that one. I saw that one.

Speaker 1 And the woman passed the tour. And there was a rumor that

Speaker 1 the tourist people had killed the elephant's kid or wife or something, and the elephant remembered. So he waited and he ran and did something to these people.
Yo, I believe that 100%.

Speaker 1 You know, crows remember faces. Yeah.
They did a thing with crows where, like, if one of these people, like,

Speaker 1 yeah, they were under you, they're going to shit right on your head. My sister had an experience.
They hold a grudge. My sister had an experience with crows.

Speaker 1 I've mentioned it on this podcast before, where someone told her that, and she, like, befriended the crows, basically. She talked to them.
She would put shit out for them.

Speaker 1 Then they started bringing her shit and showing up at the same spot the next day. Like.
That shit is for real. Yo, they have a language.
They're very smart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We do trivia with my kids, and this is here.

Speaker 1 Make this podcast entertaining and educational. Do you know what a group of crows is called? No.
A murder.

Speaker 1 A murder? That's a true story. It is true.
A group of crows is called a murder.

Speaker 1 It's weird because I'm not aware of the blacks.

Speaker 1 That bullshit.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey. Got a fucking bookmart with the blacks.
What's wrong with you, man?

Speaker 1 I didn't name him. Be quiet.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, for me, for me, my final question. Yeah.
The same way you have this gift.

Speaker 1 He's right. The same way you have this gift

Speaker 1 with humans, clearly.

Speaker 1 Do you see things in just the earth

Speaker 1 that maybe the average person or the normal set of eyes doesn't pay attention to?

Speaker 1 Do you think that the earth, too, the planet, gives off cues and clues as to what it may be thinking or feeling? That's a great question. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 I don't think, I mean, I think that on a deeper level, but not like the mentalism thing, because the mentalism thing is really, it's a set of skills.

Speaker 1 So it's really it's kind of like psychology influencing people there there's this it's really if you think about a chef you know how a chef has let's say you got chicken you got fish you got steak you got all these ingredients i got sauces i can make all these recipes so when i come up with my stuff i have different ways to do certain things and then it's like it's kind of like jazz kind of like that chop show we're like you give me this you give me that i'm gonna whip up a recipe so like right now i don't always know what's gonna happen when i walked in this room but i kind of started leaning into things that would work and things that didn't work i moved away from so it's kind of like it's really true like playing jazz i didn't come in in here you saw me walk in you're like how this guy gonna pull this off we're in a living room how could you do this there's no setup there's no staging for my bigger show it's a little more of a production but i think uh the mentalism is something that's a series of steps that you can learn to do that's kind of what the whole book's all about

Speaker 1 that's more like a spiritual question but i think i mean i think there's definitely some energy and something to do with the planet and i don't know how to tap into that i mean what do you think ayahuasca have you done that ayahuasca no oh you mentioned to me so i've heard wild stories from people Shit, enough mushrooms, you'll start

Speaker 1 seeing and feeling the earth. I agree.
And shit. I have one final question.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, go ahead. I just have one final question.

Speaker 1 Are there times when you're wrong? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 1 how do you navigate through that? The best,

Speaker 1 the way you see how good you get at this is that people don't know when you're wrong.

Speaker 1 So that's the real art is that what if I told you that in this room, I had more than one thing wrong, but you didn't ever see it because I just pivoted around or moved around?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like just like Duck and Williams, like Floyd Mayweather. Doesn't get hit, but does he make mistakes? Sure.
So in my show, there's things that didn't go right.

Speaker 1 Like yesterday I was on TV and I guarantee you something went very wrong, but I worked around it so quickly you didn't notice. I noticed you didn't.

Speaker 1 Getting stuff like wrong, like just boom, like you just get something totally wrong and then you're stuck is very difficult on live TV because if there's no more time to get out of it, then you're stuck in a corner.

Speaker 1 And the worst thing is if the last thing is wrong. But it happens.

Speaker 1 like if you would have picked a girl's name wrong for me there would have been no nothing you could have done yeah but i didn't i didn't just say i'm gonna guess the name i i figured out a letter and then i got gotcha i it came together right if you notice that

Speaker 1 it's not a gotcha it's actually truly like some of you tell me right now what it is i'm like i don't know it yet like i gotta figure it out

Speaker 1 it's like a puzzle it's a puzzle it's exactly a puzzle it's wheel of fortune got you only i can put together letters before fan ofta be this i already know what they are when they're in your head it's better than wheel of Fortune.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Wheel of Fortune keeps giving you a bunch of clues.
You went from R to a full name. Yep.
I feel like there's some crime shows. Last name.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 Last name

Speaker 1 sounds the same. It's like a rhyming, isn't it? Dovey.
Dovey?

Speaker 1 Dove?

Speaker 1 Is it? Don't tell me that's it.

Speaker 1 No, it's Dover, bro. Dover.
Yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's

Speaker 1 the same thing. You're going to let him do that on the walkout.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? On the walkout, you're gonna say that.

Speaker 1 I know how you met the girl through Michael Paul. You tell me.
It had to be you. Man, that's a pretty name you're thinking about over there.

Speaker 1 Dover.

Speaker 1 Hey, Dover, boy.

Speaker 1 Freak ass boy.

Speaker 1 That's a nice name. I'm gonna look up.
Me too. Me too.
Me too.

Speaker 1 All right, so.

Speaker 1 No, we good. We're good, right? We done with him.
We good.

Speaker 1 We're super good with him. Yeah, we're good with him.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, we don't see him anymore.

Speaker 1 Unless we need some different rules. The only other place you're going to see me is Flip in His Nightmares.

Speaker 1 Make some noise for old Burmese.

Speaker 1 Thank you, JVP.

Speaker 1 Thank you, man. We are so appreciative.

Speaker 1 I'm a believer. No, no, no.
You, I'm on board. I'm officially.
I'm going around the circle, high fives down the line. I love it.
Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 No, thank you, man.

Speaker 1 What? That was crazy. What?

Speaker 1 We had the round of applause for my God. And he gets some real applause.

Speaker 1 Oh, Pearlman, the mentalist in this piece. Mentalists.
He was doing some

Speaker 1 witchcraft or some shit. I ain't rolling, man.
I will say, anytime I ever saw that on TV, I never believed that shit. Me neither.
Me either.

Speaker 1 For him to do it the way he did it in this room to each one of us, like, come on, man. What the fuck is going on? It's something to do.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get down to the bottom. Fam.
He's good.

Speaker 1 He's good. I don't have nothing to say.
He's good. He did it.
He did it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That fucked me up, bro. I'm not going to do it.
Facts. That shit's going to fuck you up.

Speaker 1 I be replaying this shit in my mind. You fly.
Bing Pao. Wow, boy.
Why? I need to figure out how he did it. Why y'all saying, Ching Chow?

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch and analyze this video like I'm an NFL quarterback. Word.

Speaker 1 Where did I slip it? Word. All right.

Speaker 1 That gave it away right there.

Speaker 1 No wonder male like sitting here looking at your phone, nigga. You'd be like Jamarcus Tussle.

Speaker 1 He was an NFL quarterback. Let me think of

Speaker 1 who you would be.

Speaker 1 Marcus.

Speaker 1 You trying to think of some floppy ass quarterbacks. What's wrong with him?

Speaker 1 Ben's old.

Speaker 1 What? Dude,

Speaker 1 something's wrong with old. Something is wrong with him, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, get out of my phone, nigga. I just think it's fly, son.
Get out my phone. You be doing like five things at one time.
Whoever city is, that don't mean you can just look at people's phones.

Speaker 1 I'm giving you credit for being flitty. That's flitting back.

Speaker 1 It don't matter where he sits, he's gonna look in your phone.

Speaker 1 Bro, that nigga be sitting up there. That nigga be like, He been ish phone, Melpha.
But I don't say shit. I don't say shit about y'all niggas.
This shit is just.

Speaker 1 Okay, my sleeper.

Speaker 1 Proving yet again that I am always going to be a sucker for a dead president sample. I don't care what I was like.

Speaker 1 I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 1 I am playing NTG. This record is called

Speaker 1 Whatever for You.

Speaker 1 I'll do whatever for you, mommy.

Speaker 1 You don't get a play.

Speaker 3 My ain't got 10K for your body.

Speaker 1 You don't have a play.

Speaker 3 I'll be watching face on your IG.

Speaker 1 You got no dental clubs, but boy, find me. Do I put in the other leg instead of sweaty? My boy said,

Speaker 1 call me daddy.

Speaker 3 Hurry up and get ready, drop your Addy. Niggas talking on the net, but they don't add me.
Always got an attitude, I'm tryna make you happy. Every night we fuck, but on your Twitter, you don't jack me.

Speaker 3 Five foot two, but I can't lie, she got the jetty. So many butts on her face is good for her acne.
I can't fuck every bitch wrong, but she gon' track me. I be in my feelings too, baby.

Speaker 3 I'ma size you from crazy to a caddy for sure.

Speaker 1 Lagamé control.

Speaker 1 Intendano Elvidad, do you remember the do? Te bono, yama ter el guoyo, mama me a maraloo. Ye niggas saga lope yo, de gon pro ye michu.

Speaker 1 Long fo, ma baro merorado va de yo ten da una perki, bagado de es a tad de es pusito surf in my qual quera puedo raze.

Speaker 1 I do whatever for you, mommy.

Speaker 1 You don't get a play.

Speaker 3 Mine got 10K for that body.

Speaker 1 You know how I play.

Speaker 3 I'll be watching face on that IG.

Speaker 1 My bones are guru and water, do call me daddy.

Speaker 1 Try to make me fake, but I still stay strong.

Speaker 1 Put my life on the bench.

Speaker 1 Just so you can feel me, you can keep it real,

Speaker 1 All right, that's brand new music. That's NTG featuring bass swag.
That record is called Whatever For You, available in your phone and on

Speaker 1 where DSPSPs. DSP's right this very second.

Speaker 1 All right, I told y'all about the album earlier.

Speaker 1 I don't know what they did for you. Look at it, it's cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did something. That's not Payola.
That's a nice song, ain't it? Not payola. Huh? But he's been in the hospital.
If he comes out the hospital, you'll see that

Speaker 1 that song has a little bit of motion now.

Speaker 1 I think you would like where it has motion at too.

Speaker 1 Of course, he would. Swab it.
I think you would really appreciate who this song has some motion with, is all I'm saying. I hear you talking.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Nigga, it should be walking to the spot like this.

Speaker 1 This little man, medical bike rolling in. Hey, baby, hold it up.
Hey, y'all laughing. That shit will work in the spot.
Little Medicaid bike. You buy that That shit will work.

Speaker 1 They give it to you for free, right? A little sympathy. Come right over.
What's wrong? What happened?

Speaker 1 You got the bike for free? Yeah. No, that shit cost, but I got mine for free.
The doctor gave it to me. A little Obamacare bike.

Speaker 1 Shit's like $350, nigga. Nah, it does.

Speaker 1 $350. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I told y'all about the album.

Speaker 1 Definitely going to play off of... This is Kevin Gates.
I'm Him Too. This is the intro track called Therapy Sessions.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Kevin Gates, come up here, man.

Speaker 1 I asked some questions to fucking Kevin Gates. I ain't gonna hold you up.
Get it, nigga. Get back in your throat.

Speaker 1 I gotta ask her a few things.

Speaker 1 And what that?

Speaker 1 Bitch dying.

Speaker 1 They saying hurt people, hurt people Bitch, I'm destroyed on the inside Might look cool, calm and collected Bitch, I go hard on the inside Silly me believing in the bitch nigga These niggas broad on the inside Put some work down, pull your skirt down These niggas brawls on the inside

Speaker 1 Cartier lenses, I don't get offended I quickly remember I'm golfing about it Shit sent a mental no sense in pretending I'm no longer rocking my cardiac watches Cartier water my tipping in diamonds Now I don't even like the name to go with it Before I go shopping or doing it coppin' I want a nigga brand to go with it Big Luke Brass here, big trendy topic.

Speaker 1 I put that on my zero that I'ma get with you. You know that it's floating, I'm standing on business.
I get in their face and I hand them a 50. You know I'm on 10 when I'm standing in the trenches.

Speaker 1 Internet, I keep a positive image. In the vicinity, I'm in attendance.
You get in my presence, you know that it's tension. Took care of whole ass niggas helping broke-ass hoes wasn't even work.

Speaker 1 They speaking on me, keep my name out your dick. So go get off the ground and commit you a murder.
No, you ain't never been off in no gang. Shit, back up and ranking.
I'm back on my purpose.

Speaker 1 When I was with y'all, I was going to circles. You hang with a clown, you a part of the circle.
I figured it out, I got back in my bed, yellow caliber, matching a rari convertible.

Speaker 1 Hold up, yeah, I might have went over your head.

Speaker 1 I push a button, and all of a sudden, the ceiling go over my head. You still live at home with your mother, ho, go to your room and go get in your bed.

Speaker 1 You know I'm controlling the gutter, you know that I'm thuggin', I'm one of them men. You know if I put you to sleep, till if you able to switch, you won't get up again.

Speaker 1 Look how they perpetrate a nigga image. Won't even tell the public where they get it.
Imagine you're taken away from your family, you guilty of charges you haven't committed.

Speaker 1 Everyone else get a slap on the wrist. Every time you go in, it's a different facility.
Emotions caught willing inside, lot of compartmentalized trauma. I ain't never talked with you about mine.

Speaker 1 Swear I'ma kill me, a nigga, mama. I ain't even talking, bitch, damn.
They said hurt people, hurt people, bitch. I'm destroyed on the inside.

Speaker 1 Mine, you ain't no factor. You don't get saloon by shoulders and jackals.
Respect me on heavy whenever you steppin' and willing to make an example.

Speaker 1 Caramekano, the Mexican, caught them recruited by people who matter. Paula shopped a cartel, I just went on and said, I know that you ain't on a stand.
Well, hey, really get active.

Speaker 1 Bread wanna be on my jacket. I don't whistle on nothing but gays.
I'm up and ran, you know that my daddy. Remember when he used to want me to rap, but show me how to unrap it.

Speaker 1 Bray wanna make it leave my fear boom, and a lot of these niggas be acting. Tell them to speak on it.
You know they missing a lot of them factors.

Speaker 1 You touching what we touching, take off the gloves, and your fingers supposed to be ashy.

Speaker 1 Brads is in it. Warehouse package delivered in palace.
Just got off the home with the bread when the dawn. He throw me the LM slamming.

Speaker 1 Bands, name rang. I don't post up on the gram.
Post up in the trap. Pray to wake up, take these extra grams.
Love my swag, know I'm yeah. I don't really go nowhere.

Speaker 1 Out of town, shopping, saw me park my smoker pump again. Take my number, let me back.
No strings attached I'm bout to shed. When the business gettin' handled, I be quick to cancel plans.

Speaker 1 Say you still be thinking bout me. Thank you, ma'am.
No, thank you, ma'am. Betro PCS be jumpin'.
There's a bumpin' Lego lab.

Speaker 1 And that was Therapy Sessions, Kevin Gates featuring Lingo. It's the first track off of his new album, I'm Him Too, in Your Phones on DSPs.
Kevin Gates, come up here, bro.

Speaker 1 Come up here, man. Get these questions.

Speaker 1 I'm going to Houston. This is Marcus Clay.
Mother Told me.

Speaker 1 You're gonna be someone

Speaker 1 someone talked.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck is Marcus Clay? Before you start your day, put this shit on your playlist to understand I'm a future A-list. Fuck the judge, jury, and the bailiff.

Speaker 1 And every music critic that's spewing hate, making that shit contagious. It's some shit that I can't let you niggas get away with.
You tried to play me, now homicide's my only payment.

Speaker 1 Yo, yo, yo, I can't hear nothing in the headphones.

Speaker 1 I ain't hear no music in the headphones. Okay, I was in the cut like peroxide.
I knew the girl was mine from the moment we locked eyes. Bitch, I was outside, on tour, bonjour.

Speaker 1 How could you doubt I contoured the meaning of play? And it outlines the reasoning of my existence? This is hieroglyphics, psychophysics, heightened vision. I've seen it all in the back of my mind.

Speaker 1 I watched family turn to foes in the blink of an eye. Damn.

Speaker 1 You're gonna be someone

Speaker 1 someone

Speaker 1 You ever wanted to kill a nigga you shared blood with with the same last name and you shared bud with that's the main reason why me and trust is refucking Same people that say they love you leave you disgusting I'm the last motherfucker you fuckers should fuck with Keep thinking you tough bitch, you'll sleep in the dust stiff But fuck all that shit, let's get back to this rap shit They placed me in the wilderness like John the Baptist And I ain't have a goddamn thing in this bitch I gave up every goddamn thing for this shit.

Speaker 1 Ain't no plan B's or backups to relax for. What the fuck you think I rap for? The sit-back pork?

Speaker 1 Clearing my throat, asking for hope. How could you go against my kid? That's a no.

Speaker 1 All those years of crying tears when they locked you up. 45 years, man, yeah, that really fucked me up.
But I gotta move on from this circle. Wish I could bring my mama back alive from the dirt.

Speaker 1 But in the meantime, I gotta keep it steady on my mean grind and do everything to feed mine.

Speaker 1 That's mama told me, Marcus Clay. That shows fire.
Yeah, he's definitely

Speaker 1 super dope. That was definitely hard.
Them down south niggas got a cheat code with their accents, too.

Speaker 1 They turn you on? No, nigga.

Speaker 1 Crazy, right?

Speaker 1 What the fuck? That's better than. Yeah, you were.

Speaker 1 that. Never mind.
Moving on. Moving on.
You know what he said. Moving on.
They don't be playing fair, right? Moving the fuck on. They just smooth.
What you got is that?

Speaker 1 They just smooth down south, boys. And they're hospitable.
Come on.

Speaker 1 They got you right where they want you. I hate these niggas.

Speaker 1 I just want to say that. It's been like this outside we hate.

Speaker 1 They got you on your trip down there, huh? They are complete Chico. Yeah, as a kid when you went down south, huh?

Speaker 1 That's when you fell along with.

Speaker 1 No mom D, no nothing. With them voices, they don't be playing fair.

Speaker 1 And they got backyards.

Speaker 1 They got backyards, Freeze. They got backyards, Helmie.
You can run around.

Speaker 1 You New York niggas don't know nothing about that. We got backyards up here.
Yo. Sorry, Freeze.
Oh, yeah. And driveways and grass.

Speaker 1 All right. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 What Renee Dover dropped? I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Renee Dover got some heat coming.

Speaker 1 Yo. What happened? I'm going to Alex Isley, yo.
The song is called Hands. What rock? Hands.

Speaker 1 Gotta use the hands now. The feet's fucked up, right?

Speaker 1 Exactly. Gotta use the hands now.

Speaker 1 Been traveling and it's been too long.

Speaker 1 Oh, let's go, Alex.

Speaker 1 The weeks feel like months since I've been gone. Need to know Alex, not Alex

Speaker 1 Nothing like the feeling that I left back home.

Speaker 1 Help me remember,

Speaker 1 though it's hard not to dream about.

Speaker 1 Cause there's the one sensation

Speaker 1 that I can't seem to go without.

Speaker 1 Out of reach, but you're close enough.

Speaker 1 So at least I can see your face.

Speaker 1 I need to feel them on me.

Speaker 1 Pull me into

Speaker 1 your embrace

Speaker 1 with your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 No, so closer. Just touch me with your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 I'll hold on to you. Hold me with your hands.

Speaker 1 your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Your palms and fingertips emulate me.

Speaker 1 Curves anticipating.

Speaker 1 I've been meditating

Speaker 1 on the places your caress could take me

Speaker 1 in a state of our own making.

Speaker 1 It's electric,

Speaker 1 couldn't pull away when it's magnetic.

Speaker 1 When you feel me, you make sure I don't forget it.

Speaker 1 Cause this could slip away if you let it. Help me remember.

Speaker 1 Though it's hard not to dream about.

Speaker 1 Cause it's the one sensation

Speaker 1 that I can't seem to go without.

Speaker 1 Out of reach, but you're close enough.

Speaker 1 So at least I can see your face.

Speaker 1 I need to feel them on me.

Speaker 1 Pull me into

Speaker 1 your embrace

Speaker 1 with your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 No self, no sad. Just touch me with your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Your

Speaker 1 hands,

Speaker 1 your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 I'll hold on to you. Hold me with your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Your

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 That's Alex Isley. Hands

Speaker 1 good shit, Sean. Good shit.

Speaker 1 That's my nigga. Don't look at me, boy.
Don't look at me.

Speaker 1 That nigga know when he got some heat. That's fine.
Nah, that shit was bad.

Speaker 1 Keep it to yourself.

Speaker 1 Gate, keep it. Nah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 She ain't even here, nigga. Yeah.
Beef ain't even on today. The sleeper battle was on Paul.

Speaker 1 I don't even know how you found that right there.

Speaker 1 How you found that?

Speaker 1 I got an app. What the fuck you mean?

Speaker 1 You don't know that person personally. Alex Isley is alex Isley is a person.
A pretty dumb person. Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't know she dropped some shit last week.

Speaker 1 You know.

Speaker 1 It wasn't last week. It says March 14th.

Speaker 1 Step your game up. Oh, Apple said that.
I was on the shit.

Speaker 1 It was February.

Speaker 1 It was February. It's a what record? It's a camper record.
It's not really good.

Speaker 1 A camper record. February 28th.

Speaker 1 Let's go E. It's all right at IK.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at the strip down. Your hands.

Speaker 1 And you stole one of my joints, they told me about

Speaker 1 what's her name? The internet told me. No, one of my sleepers.
Oh,

Speaker 1 what's her name?

Speaker 1 Take questions to a boy. Oh,

Speaker 1 pretty much. That was fine.
God damn. The world told me.

Speaker 1 It's cool. That was the end of the sleepers, right?

Speaker 1 Nyla drop. Nah, Nyla's out here, though.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Nyla Black Mini. Nah.

Speaker 1 Nyla doing that, yeah. Girl of Freak Part 2?

Speaker 1 I'm getting ready to do some work, man.

Speaker 1 Your hands.

Speaker 1 Looking so stupid, y'all.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like there's anything else I need to get off my

Speaker 1 heart.

Speaker 1 Let's see here.

Speaker 1 What's the weekend? It's the weekend. What's up? What's happening? What's happening? Family shit.
Chilling shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, same. Going to the spots.
Feeding the homeless. We're going to the spots.

Speaker 1 You going with? All the spots. Oh, y'all start moving around? Yeah.

Speaker 1 On the meta-bike? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to tell you something.

Speaker 1 Get the scooting, boy. I'm trying.
The bike works. It's a joke, big guy.
No, it ain't.

Speaker 1 You ain't fooling me.

Speaker 1 I ain't got nothing to plan.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'd love to sound different so we can all not sound so washed, but... Nah, I don't really have nothing to plan.
Sometimes it's all right. Yeah.
Let's chill for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Listen, Bill Bird said it's a fucking eight hours of sleep is a new pussy.

Speaker 1 Ain't gonna lie. You ain't lying.
I can't get eight.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's too much for you. You can't take it.
You can't take the eight.

Speaker 1 You can't take that. You can't take the eight.

Speaker 1 Just finish sounding. Say the whole thing.
Like a strong five, six. I can't.
You don't want eight two dogs.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Hey, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 Them niggas with eight is a Chico

Speaker 1 and they voice

Speaker 1 them southern boys

Speaker 1 if your status ain't hood.

Speaker 1 When you're looking at me, I need a soldier.

Speaker 1 Stop that.

Speaker 1 Stand up between if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 Shit, man. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 I tell you I got that no-limit chat.

Speaker 1 I'm not playing that. No, we gotta end it like that.

Speaker 1 That nigga had the no-limit chat.

Speaker 1 I see why you was at eight at the table now. Now I got you.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 I got you now. You seeing the whole value, folks?

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. I'm not asking you.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Disgusting way to end the podcast. I'll be back at the table.
See you, Kurt.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 Look, see, y'all did it for me? Let's go, freeze.

Speaker 1 Let's go freeze. Yeah.
Take it further, freeze.

Speaker 1 Holla, freeze.

Speaker 1 You can kick it with cattle, you'll holla at the fire. It's no longer going to take it further, no.

Speaker 1 That is absolutely disgusting. So the baddies are insecure.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's true.
We are gay as hell. Now y'all know.
No, we all.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. There's some soldiers in here

Speaker 1 ask them where they at the background where they at where they at

Speaker 1 oh my lord

Speaker 1 all right listen man

Speaker 1 hopefully y'all have enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you

Speaker 1 keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next time i bid you adieu

Speaker 1 farewell adios dirgy asta la vista arboir

Speaker 1 always be talking that country.

Speaker 1 We like beat the beat in the back.

Speaker 1 I see so much. Destiny's child was saying whatever to sell.
Anything they wanted to. Kelly married to a white dude, Hove, from the project.

Speaker 1 Where was they getting this from?

Speaker 1 She died on my Hove. She talked about Hove.
She was talking about Hove in her verse? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She was talking about Hove. Oh, we like them boys up to the top on the BBK.
Okay, I didn't have

Speaker 1 money three words. I don't have it memorized.

Speaker 1 I just heard it yesterday because I was

Speaker 1 on his home a little bit.

Speaker 1 That nigga got the first.

Speaker 1 You got sold to memorized.

Speaker 1 I just heard it yesterday. And you were sitting there thinking about Chris Brown.
I ain't forgetting about that neither, nigga. And you were sitting there thinking about, I don't care.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is funny. Dead or alive? Dead or alive.

Speaker 1 Anybody, dead or alive, at the top of that nigga's mind was Chris. Chris Brown, breezy.
You want a breezy remix? Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all, hold it down, man. We get the fuck out of here.
We are going. Everybody, enjoy your weekend.
Shout out to the hay listeners. Shout out to the first and last time listener.
Hey, hey.

Speaker 1 Smash up, yo, be on save. Hey.

Speaker 1 Breeze, I don't think you should be singing this like that, nigga. Just chill.

Speaker 1 Your new nigga's music. Fuck y'all.
He's trying to have a cool head nod to this shit. Just No, but it's too late.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but your head nod can't be cool. Yes, it is.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 You seen Kelly in this video? Yes. I did.
Amazing. What about him? Definitely did.

Speaker 1 What about him?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about, nigga? Hands. I was trying to learn that dance.
That little shit they was doing. Let's see, do it right now when you're on your little booth.

Speaker 1 Some shit.

Speaker 1 I'll turn this shit off.

Speaker 1 You're going to be mad. You cut waiting.
If I catch you outside

Speaker 1 on that meta-bike.

Speaker 1 Y'all are bugging, yo. No, no, he could go, but I bet not see him.

Speaker 1 I bet not see that little Obamacare bike riding around.

Speaker 1 You really are wilding. And young money works.

Speaker 1 Yo, wait. I'm telling you something.
But you're going to be in the spot with it, or you're going to chain it up outside. No, you're going to put it in the city.
No.

Speaker 1 You're going to chain it on the fire.

Speaker 1 Go hit the bike rack. Go hit the bike rack next to the city bikes.

Speaker 1 Yo, no final words, right? No, no.

Speaker 1 All right, y'all niggas holding down.

Speaker 1 And good to have issuback. Round of applause, Barbara.

Speaker 1 Miss that energy, man. We miss you, man.
We missed you, dog.

Speaker 1 And shout out to our sister Mel again. For missing peace.

Speaker 1 Our sister in Christ, Mel, big Mel,

Speaker 1 and that's that. Here we go.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP.

Speaker 1 Sight. Fuck you all.

Speaker 1 Don't try to rush through it.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Now, don't try to rush through the JBP, though.
Don't try to do that.