Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)

Episode 810 | "Where The Magic Happens" (feat. Oz Pearlman)

March 22, 2025 3h 23m

Ish returns to his seat in the latest episode as the JBP kicks things off discussing his recent surgery (1:55) before diving into the drama between Jess Hilarious & The Breakfast Club (23:38). The room then debates if there is a wrong time professionally to get pregnant (1:07:06), in new music Leon Thomas’ ‘MUTT’ remix with Chris Brown (1:17:01), Kevin Gates new album (1:19:07), and Ice addresses Joe over his review of the MAX show ‘The Pitt’ (1:21:30). Also, QueenzFlip discusses the recent activity with arrests & RICO charges (1:34:52), mentalist Oz Pearlman joins the show (2:01:16), and much more! 

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The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing revealing Indicting or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals Who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Enjoy the show.

Oh, let's go, let's go.

This is where the magic happens.

Uh-huh.

Part intended.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Oh, shit, yeah.

That was dope.

Not my mistake.

This is where the magic happens.

Let's go.

Oh, and my boy.

Hey, yeah, my boy. Get my boy back with me.
Yeah. Yeah.
What they talking about? I'm about to say a little welcome back. It's in there.
It's in there. It's in the cut.
It's in the cut for my boy. I got my boy back with me.
Idiot, yo. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ready now. Go to any block now.
Any block. Huh? You know how it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get your guy back.
I go to any project now. What's up, nigga? Say song.
Say song. My man with me now, boy.
We happy to see you, boy boy. Yeah.
We love you, nigga. Bulls, yo.
And then Mark coming in the couple. Hey, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, shout out to my girl Mel here with us in Spirit. Always.
Shout out fight Mel spirit That's fly For the fight I'm just saying for the fight Like when we go to the block Better to have our spirit Oh my god Is there a way to fix it? Duck. What are y'all doing? I thought he was being funny.
He punched him. Police.
Get off of him. We're happy to see you, nigga.
How you feel to be back? A man up in this piece. I'm good.
She mean cool. Don't do that cool shit.
I had to be here. But not today.
How you feeling, my nigga? Don't do that man of few words shit today, buddy. Yeah, don't start there.
Use as many words with me as you use with Mouse Jones, nigga. Talk.
Oh, shit. The same amount of words.
I did a word count. Nigga, talk with me.
Let's do a word count with Mouse Jones? Yeah, fuck it. I just been up here not shooting at nobody.
No, for real. I just been up here being reactive to things.
Just giving bullshit takes the topics. I ain't had nobody to just randomly shoot at.
I've been letting fucking Mark been shining up here that I can't shoot at niggas. Come on, man.
My man's back now. We miss you, nigga.
Act like you missed us up here. Likewise.
We love you. Act like you missed us up here.
Likewise. You said likewise.
Nah, nah, nah. I don't like you like that.
Came here with a fresh shapey. Came here with a fresh shapey.
Oh, yeah. Cleaned up nice.
What you thought? What you thought? Drifting on your memory. Ain't no place I...
I love you, nigga. This nigga walking jukebox, yo.
He don't say I love you back, but love you That foot is wrapped up Yeah It ain't stop nothing Yeah, I know, nigga Moving out here like He moving out here like He clip I don't know who that is Who he clip? You don't know who he clip is? Yes, nigga Don't look No, I ain't say you The cat It's a cat, nigga He was a man He was a thug We happy a thug. We happy to see you, Ish.
Likewise, my brother. How do you feel? Man, you had the surgery.
Went all the way. You flew out.
Yeah. I'm good, actually.
I thought I would have been in way more pain. But it ain't really hurt.
You know how they say grade your pain on a one to ten? Yeah. I don't think I ever really went over a five.
Oh, yeah. From start to finish.
Even y'all seen me when the shit happened. I was still laughing, cracking jokes and all that shit.
Niggas like, no, you couldn't have definitely tore your shit. You being too silly.
Usually niggas that... They said, dog, niggas be calling the ambulance and be in a different type of pain.
Well, you been shot before too. Yeah, and niggas...
And that's that good insurance he got. They ain't going to let that pain get butt so high.
And niggas with your past that knock anything down. Y'all niggas got no heart.
You got no tolerance. Nigga got pain tolerance.
You knock niggas' wives. Niggas' sister, you don't give a fuck.
Your heart not dead. You don't feel shit.
You don't feel shit. Back in the day.
Yeah. Where did this come from? Back in the day, right? Niggas a nutcase, bro.
Back in the day. He ain't give a fuck, man.
Look at him. That's not true.
Look at him. That's not true, though.
I'm good, though. Thank you, fast.
Give me those eyes, yo. Give me the eyes.
No, he was slimmer back then. Hey.
We're not going to body shame-ish to start this. He's injured.
He's injured. Are you kidding me? How do you expect him to get in the gym? Like this.
I'm in the gym. This is the pod gym.
When you miss a few episodes, yo, I don't know why people haven't picked up on that one yet. You got to exercise.
Nobody picked up on that one yet. You got to come back in shape.
If there's ever a time where you miss one, don't let it be two or more episodes. When you get back, surprise, surprise.
What's up? Jokes on you, buddy! The whole way through! Niggas had to hold and tuck them jokes? Yeah, come on. Body shaming is in.
Everything is in. You crazy? My man is back.
Have you been doing a lot of candy to deal with the pain? Zero. No candy? Nigga, triceps is strong, nigga.
You've been holding yourself up, huh? Oh yeah, you gotta get stronger

Nah, shit different

I know, welcome nigga

Lose weight

It's annoying

Lose weight

I'm down with you

I'm in the gym

Let's do it

Can't get up and snack so often

I ain't even gonna joke too much on your shit

Cause I do know that

Nah, you know what it is, yo?

It make you feel helpless

I bet

Like, so mental

Fuck the physical part

Yeah

The mental part is more.

Have you considered

going shopping

for a sweet ass cane?

What the fuck?

No.

Can't ain't gonna help you?

Why?

At some point

you're gonna need a cane.

It ain't enough.

You gotta get

a sweet ass cane.

It's crutches

or my motherfucking Benz.

I got Benz.

That's true.

But eventually

you're gonna grow up.

Yeah, yeah.

About to put some rims

on my shit.

Be popping out here.

Are you going to trick your shit out?

And a little order to bag.

I'm sorry?

You going to put the back, a little saddle bag?

You got no choice, buddy.

For what?

Dog, I came in this bitch today with four waters.

That shit almost killed me outside.

I had to, now I'm going to put him in my bag.

You know what I mean?

That bet.

That bet.

Bet ain't off because you're injured.

No, it's not.

Bet ain't off because you're injured No it's not Bet ain't off

Because you're injured

Hold on

He killed some time

He wasn't here for two weeks

He killed some time

But you know

Nah we can

Why don't you just Amazon

Or whatever some

Water's here

That's not our bet

That's not the bet

Can't do that

You gotta bring water

Every time you come

Yeah it's cool though

But that water

You know that shit's heavy

Yeah

So I'm on the crutches

And you got help

And you got help

Because wifey listens to the joints

And she makes sure

Yo don't forget your water

I'm bringing water. Yeah, it's cool, though.
But the water, you know, it's just heavy. Yeah.
So I'm on the crutches with a bag. And you got help,

and you got help

because wifey listens to the joints

and she makes sure,

yo, don't forget your water.

Don't forget your water.

I put it on the counter for you.

I put it on your little wheelie.

I got your keys on top of the water, nigga.

Don't forget your water.

I like that.

How long they think

you going to be like this?

You need an intern.

I go to the physical therapist

next week for this. Hopefully, I can get this off.
Remember off Remember I had the boot I wasn't supposed to have the boot The first doctor I went to Was on some goofy shit So I wasn't supposed to have the boot I was supposed to have this You know what I'm saying Pitched the right way And all that To promote the healing Cause your foot's supposed to be Your foot's supposed to Literally be like you Stepping a gas. Because it's bringing your tendon back up to touch each other.

That nigga had me like this.

Stretch, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Which is counterproductive.

And they said that the scar tissue and all that shit will start forming.

You could be walked fucked up for the rest of your life.

So we're not doing that.

So it's fixed now, right?

It's being done the right way.

Yeah.

Because honestly, I didn't care about all of that.

Anyway, bro.

Yo, the boot is like four months.

I'll probably be on the boot for four months.

Thank you. Yeah.
Because honestly, I didn't care about all of that. Anyway, bro.

Yo, the boot is like four months.

I'll probably be on the boot for four months.

Is it being done?

Thank you. Yeah, yeah.

There you go.

I didn't want to hear your testimony.

It's an idiot, bro.

Oh, shit.

I'm so happy.

Word.

Man, four months, though.

Happy as shit, man.

Four months, roughly.

Got it. Oh, writing time for the summer.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Ooh, hey. You ain't fooling nobody, nigga.
Yo, what's wrong with y'all? Us. Us.
Yeah, you right, y'all. Us, you right.
Niggas turned everything into some bullshit. I heard the clip.
Yo, yeah, word. You went to LA.
Oh, word. Oh, you went for the surgery, huh? We looked up.
Looked up what? The doctor? Yes. You niggas got a mental problem.
Hey, what the hell? You all right? I'm not ready. Y'all do what y'all want to do.
The phone lock and just be forgetting everything. That's the doc doing that shit.
Doc and Sade working together. Lock his phone now.
The mental ass. Fucking God-y.
Man, we happy to see you, man. Yeah, it works.
Damn, son. I know.
Hey. It's cool.
You be looking up with the nice doctors. Were you cracking jokes? Did you give the doctor a nickname? Hey, Doc E? Huh? Doc E.
Did you get the Aaron Rodgers shit? Yeah.

So it's like some

new shit.

It's real minimal.

Yeah, yeah.

Small shit.

Like a little

couple of holes,

screws,

and they pull it up

and pull it down.

Oh.

That's it.

I get that deer

antler spray.

That's next.

I'm sorry?

What's wrong with us?

That's the Bray Lewis shit.

Deer antler spray?

Yeah, man.

That shit, man.

That'll get you right.

Got it. Oh, you didn't forget how to pod, right? As long as you forget.
That's it. Poquito.
There you go. There you go.
Yeah. Poquito.
Come back speaking Spani. Yeah.
Yeah. He was in California, so that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah, it's up.
I ain't go outside out there, yo. I know.
I know. No, not at all.
I'm scared. Not in LA.
This nigga's crazy. Anyway, a lot going on on What'd I miss? I don't know What did you miss since you've been gone? Yeah What has happened differently since issues been gone? Not a whole lot Not really Business as usual Nigga we out here moving man We just waiting Nigga we kept the seat warm for you to come back That's it Nothing happened You ain't miss shit't miss shit.
All right. So they forced me to be that guy.
They forced me to be that guy. I didn't want to look this way, but I quit smoking.
You did? Yeah. Congratulations, huh? Quit smoking, man.
I hate that guy. No, um, no, uh.
I hate the guy that just walks in the middle of the prom, walks up by the fucking punch and just does that.

I really, I despise him.

How many days you on?

This is week two or three.

That's good, nigga.

Fuck that.

You know, week two or three.

Breathing and shit.

Some stamina.

Breathing shit.

I spoke to your mother.

You told me.

You and Corey.

I bought you some, whatchamacallit? Patches? Mulleinleaf. Oh.
Ah, the old mulleinleaf. Mulleinleaf real good for you.
I gave it away, but I bought you something. Oh, shit.
No, I didn't. But I bought it.
That's some bullshit. No, I remember I told you I was buying it.
You gave it away? You gave my shit away to somebody else? No, let me tell you what. You bought the mullein leaf.
For Joe? For Joe. And only Joe? Yeah.
Okay. Then Danny called.
Say yo, man. You got the mullein leaf, yo? My lungs are low off.
Now, and then my godfather, I told y'all, he was having some issues and some surgeries

and all that shit, so I gave it to him

to make the phlegm out his lungs and all that.

Right.

So I was just like, yo, I'll replace it

and buy Joe another one.

So did you replace it and buy Joe another one?

No.

You can't walk.

Not yet.

Yeah, not yet.

Now it's Amazon.

Park tried to get you out.

I did.

Yo.

Good.

All God does is fucking play tricks on me. See, he do that and it forced you to have to care about his Godfather.
Yo, what's wrong with you, Aki? What's wrong with you? This nigga's a nutball. Like when he put it that way, it's like, all right, man.
You're good, dog. But I got you, though.
In my head, all I heard was. I gave it away.
Gave your shit away to somebody Call him up Alright I'm joking Coming to re-pull the pills Yeah Oh yes toxic jokes Let's fucking go Oh I feel so good Alright My phone, yeah. Did y'all keep fucking talking when it comes to shit, man? Get up the gris and get out of there.
Oh, you in my phone? Yeah, this shit lit. You in my phone? This shit like the tunnel in all six.
Yeah, chill. This shit go through mad shit.
It is. Is Hill's in it? No, he just can't.
He's fucking up. All right, I'm ready.
Come on. If you go to the doctor and you say you're depressed, they always ask, have you thought about killing yourself?

Right?

They always have to ask that.

But they don't ask anything after.

If you say no, they just go on to the next question.

They just go, oh, do you have any allergies?

That's it?

You don't care about anything else?

And I was like, what would happen if they asked one more question?

What if they asked, have you thought about murder?

Have you thought about killing yourself?

No.

Have you thought about killing someone else?

Actually,

I have a list and I have school tomorrow.

Oh, shit. I sit alone in my four-card room, standing in canada.

Okay.

I didn't know you was going there At night I can't sleep I'm torn to turn The camera sticks and the dark visions Her body's being burned Four walls just staring at a nigga I'm paranoid sleeping with my finger on the trigger My mother's always stressing I ain't living right But I ain't going out without a fight See every time my eyes close I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose Mic check, one, two, one, two What up, what up's somebody watchin' me But I don't know who it is, so I'm watchin' my breath I don't see him when I'm deep in the covers When I awake, I don't see the motherfucker He owns a black hat like I own A black suit and a cane like my own Somebody say take a chill, baby But fuck that shit There's a nigga tryna kill me

I'm popping in the grip when the wind blows

Every 20 seconds got me peeping out my window

Investigating the joint for traps

Checking my telephone for texts

I'm staring at the woman out of the corner

It's fucked up with your mind

So blessed to have you

Ingo!

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, everybody knows me Always for the ladies, always for the ladies Shout out to the dope boys, to the dope girls there Uh, uh, uh, no for that game

Woo! Let's go. Happy weekend out there! Yes, sir.
Hey. Use your bang.
Shout out to all the entrepreneurs out there, all the podcasters out there. Eagle.
Wow. Use your bang.
Use your bang. Use your bang.
Use your bang. Use your bang.
Use your bang. Like that.
Like that. Count all Count all the fingers into toes Now I suppose you're the little black boy grow No matter where you listen from out there Big Jersey, Big Jersey Ingo In simple parenthood There I stood By the time she was 21 Had another one This one's a girl Let's name a Pam Same father as the first one She joking but now I'm here here with sparks So we're playing, I'm thinking Papa said chill, but the brother Rest in peace to anybody we lost recently On your side while the baby make a slide But mama got wise to the game If the girl gets the five kids, hun All the truck drivers out there On the boat, the workers out there All the teachers out there Listen All the streamers out there Garth and creators out there All the teachers out there, listen.
All the streamers out there, guards and creators out there. All the lawyers out there, doctors out there.

All the parents out there.

What up, what up, what up, what up? When I think back, hey, let's start with some hip-hop. Thank you.
Start with some hip-hop, man. There you go.
Microphone check, one, two, one, two, one, two.

Greatest podcast on earth. So happy to be here with my brothers.
Keep that applause going for the best crew in the whole world. Yes, sir.
Let me get these drops out the way real quick. Yes, sir.
Flip, flip, flip, flip. Again, shout out to our sister Mel here with us in spirit always.
What episode is this? 810. Welcome to episode 810 of the Joe Button Podcast.
Brought to you by, powered by, fueled by, PrizePix, PrizePix gang. Yeah.

I'm your humble, grateful, gracious,

happy to be here, fully dressed, smoke-free,

host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right.

Queens get the money, Queens get the money.

Big Queens flip is in the building.

I'm here, nigga.

I'm here.

To his right.

There we go.

Hey.

Uh-oh.

Hey.

Uh-oh.

Uh, I know you like that.

Woodbridge is finest.

Yes.

King Wawa.

Mr. Thousand Doors himself.

Huh.

Happy Ramadan to everybody out there. He's a thousand doors himself.
And all the pretty chicks all wanna smile like me. These rap cats, man, they all got the stuff for me.
And now I don't see the hook, buddy Come on, where we at? Alright, there's too much going on Make right there. I don't know, man.
What's it there? Right there. Just here.
We need you here, Inch. We need you here, Inch.
We fucking need you here. How you out there for me, bro? Because you like that.
Let's go, Inch. All right, nigga.
You ain't all that. All right, you here, nigga.
Hey! All right, nigga.

You ain't all that.

All right, you here, nigga.

All right, you here.

You cool.

We mix you a little bit.

Yeah, we here.

You cool.

All right.

Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Word.

Welcome back, bro.

Word.

Big Freeze is in the building.

Yes, sir.

Freeziest of them all.

Brother Ice, Mr. Take It Further.

Don't make them do it.

You got the hoodie, too.

Oh, for sure.

You know I was going to get the hoodie. Hey.
Yeah. Don't make them do it.
You got the hoodie, too. Oh, for sure.
You know I'm almost going to get the hoodie.

Hey.

What you think, expert?

Checking the material out.

Oh, some things just don't change.

He ain't missed a beat.

He ain't missed a beat on his part.

I'm just feeling it. Pause.

Give me some feedback. I'm cool.

Oh, shady.

Shady, shady.

I ain't say nothing shady. I mean, that's open for interpretation.
Sometimes when you don't say nothing, it's shady. Yeah, I mean, all that shit's not got shady to be.
My mama said. I ain't going to lie.
I ain't going to lie. Yeah, you stupid.
It's cool, though. I spoke to my mama yesterday, so play with me if you want.
You and Corey today. Why? Hey.
That's my people. Hey, it can be your people's all you want.
Say the wrong thing to me and it won't be no collard greens. Say it.
Sorry. No.
Sorry, say the wrong thing to me. You don't got juice like that.
It won't be no turkey wings. Are you worried about all your shoes being fucked up because one foot's going to be worn and the other one's not? Yo, I was coming up the stairs the other day and scraped the shit out of my sneaker.
I'm like, you're going to have one good foot the right gonna be fucked up and the left is gonna be new in the box. That's some bullshit.
What's most annoying about this just looking at your shit being wrapped up is thinking of being about to shower and them telling me to go get a fucking Glad garbage bag. Yeah, with the bags.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. They got a lot of new shit now.
What they got? Some vacuumu-seal shit? Yeah. Oh, good.
And the shit come up to like... Somebody recognized that that Glad Bag was a mistake.
And they probably fucking filthy rich. You damn right.
Put a Glad Bag with a pfft on it. You know what I'm saying? Yo, it's mad.
No part, you can't really get your... You know what I mean? You can't get your shit in no more.
What shit? In what? You can't get busy. Oh, it's blowjob central, bud.
Yeah, that's good. All right.
I ain't saying nothing. That's bad? What, blowjobs? No, I wasn't saying blowjobs are bad.
I'm just saying that you can't get. I'm saying it's great to be in a position of, hey, I'm handicapped for a few months.
You go ahead and do your thing. Shit, I lie about the handicapped.
I'd be in a relationship lying on my ass like, oh, my legs. Charlie Horton.
You got to get up. Oh, my legs.
Man, my knees. Get on top.
Yeah, you do it. You do it.
There you go. A little couch action.
And look where your brain is during the injury. Yeah.
Listen, all you got to do to get filthy rich out there is change the world. That vacuum seal shit is a great idea.
Word as well. Yeah, it's well.
Yeah, because that garbage bag shit, that wasn't it at all. Oh, Parks is here.
Hey, guys. I finished the injury.
There we go. Hey, guys.
Elmira's Fighters, Poe is here. Corey is here.
Keeb is here. Ian is here, maybe.
I don't know. Erickson is here.
Savon and Tanner are here. Last but certainly not least, Each and every one of you guys are here.
Corey is here. Keeb is here.
Ian is here. Maybe.
I don't know. Erickson is

here. Savon and Tanner are here.
Last but certainly not

least, each and every one of you guys

are here. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling?

What's popping? What's popping? What's popping?

Feeling great, man. Great, great.
All right, good.

You're not telling me it's been an hour since I started

this. No, no, no.
Okay. I'm about to

say. Have I lost all perception

of time? No.

It's a Friday!

Yes, sir! My man, wherever y'all want to Friday yes sir wherever y'all want to start anywhere y'all want to start anywhere in the world I'm down to do it until you get to the gang stuff I mean my trouble once we get to the gang topics I'm telling y'all now I'm tapping out after 10 years in this I don't feel like that has to be in my ministry. I don't feel like I have to come in here and cover the gang stuff

for you guys. When Lisa

Evers does it, I'll find out about it.

When y'all tell me about it, I'll find out

about it. And Tulan,

unless y'all, y'all can do it when we get there.

Besides me being a disruptor

up here, there's been some disruption

elsewhere. You know,

Jess Hilarious and The Breakfast Club, you know, things be going on up there. It's been a little bit messy.
And I just want the wonderful crew to help me out. Yeah, she's messy in public.
Very messy. I mean, they capitalize.
You know what I'm saying? They capitalize on something I think is dope. You know, something that we should practice up here when it comes to me.
When I blow up, let's just capitalize. You know, you took a page out your book.
Came up on that. They're killing this shit.
Negativity Highlighter came up. I ain't gonna hold you.
I was on Hayden a little bit. Yeah, but they bodying.
A little bit of it. They bodying that shit.
Really? They are bodying that shit. What is shit? We in a content game, my nigga.
They are bodying it. Yeah.
Yo, a part of this gig is being box office.

We dinosaurs in that.

Yeah.

That's really what it is.

I say it all the time.

A part of this is being box office.

So,

it's one thing for fans

and just an audience

to speculate

about what's going on somewhere.

It's totally different

for one of them people to get home and eat a little bit. And get the...
Maybe have a little... Cut up the...
Maybe have a smoothie. A little something.
Yeah. Have a little bit of free time on your hand.
House clean. I mean, ain't got shit to do.
Nothing to do there. Ain't nothing on tonight.
Yeah, yeah. Kids sleep.
Yeah. No awards, no Grammys, no nothing.
And just look over, see their phone right there fully charged. Good camera.
Oh my lord. Easy.
Five bars. Come on.
Come on. 5G, what's the good one? JLTE.
I don't even know the good one. 4K, whatever that shit is saying.
Ooh, and they just grab their phone and say, you know what? Go live. I'm going to let them have it.
I'm going to fucking let these fucking strangers know what's going on. It's some two words, bro.
And what's been happening. Two words.
Go live. I'm going to go totally off script for this one tonight.
Tell all my business. That was looking like that good.
That was looking like that shit reminded me of the good tequila nights. Oh, shit.
That shit was like you'd just be like you know what? Today's the last day I'm putting up with this shit. I'm tired of that bitch.
I'm tired of that bitch. So a part of me is there with it.
A part of me is there with it. Nigga, you know how happy I want I think that shit happened right after the pod.
Like, pod day. Right after.
Yo, nothing gets me more excited than as soon as pod day is over, the next work day is done. Exactly, it's the greatest.
By the time I get home, it's news hot on the shit. Are you shitting me? Nigga, I'm going right to my topic list.
Oh, Jess said this. Oh, shit.
It give you about four, five topics out of it. Listen, Jess did such an amazing job being the messiest nigga I've ever seen in my life that I went to bed content, happy.
Not me. I went to bed and was like, yo.
No, you bugging. I got enough from that.
Shit. I went to bed like, all right, I'm getting up early, and I'm going to FM radio for the first time in years.
Right to 105.1. I was so complete.
Now, fuck that. But then I woke up and, well, everybody, no more sleeping in bed.

And I picked up my phone.

I seen the energy out there.

I seen a few clips, dog.

I said, ooh, some breakfast?

What breakfast?

Wait, what?

It's the most important meal of the day.

Wait, you're not, no, you're lying.

Because God got a good sense of humor.

You're not telling me that this bitch did all that last night and came to work went to work that was gangster no this is some of the greatest theater well that's when you sleep it off for me this was some of the greatest theater we seen in a while she woke up and got dressed talk about black Air Force One energy early oh and y, and y'all got to be there early.

Mad early.

Mad early.

Yeah, so you there at 5 a.m., 5.30.

Shit, might not have slept.

Staring at somebody.

Oh, you ain't asleep.

You're already hot.

I ain't asleep.

You didn't sleep.

And what?

I'm here.

Walked in there, and what?

I'm here.

Sit down like nothing happened.

That's gangster.

And came in there to my corporate job

with just a Baltimore understanding of things. I was about to say, that's that B-more shit.
That's my other favorite. Yo, there's so many components here that are great and fun.
A lot that are not so great and fun. So where do y'all want to start in that? Start at the live.
Started, yeah. Yeah.
Her telling her story. So we all know that she was out of work for some time.
And as a result, as per her, she referred another young lady to fill in in her stead. She was pregnant, yeah.
Yeah. Turned you leave.
The other young lady came in, and now allegedly, the radio station told her that this is what we doing. This is a temporary thing.
She a producer. When she came back, it was four mics.
And now Shorty done robbed her of her segment, allegedly, and wouldn't shut the fuck up. That's the gist that I got out of it.
Jess had a problem with that. And perception out there was, oh, we kind of like her.
She's killing. Jess was saying, yo, I'm in the comments.
I'm reading the comments while I'm away. I'm away having a baby.
I picked this person. Y'all pitting two black women against each other.

It was loaded.

That's step one where the mistake happened.

Yep.

Read the comments.

Reading the comments.

Paying too much damn attention to them comments.

I read that, but here's my problem with that.

I got it.

Jess comes from social media, media, being a media personality,

and comments engagement is what fuels us to go.

You are no longer on social media.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

When you become used to that, you guys come from that where there's no comments.

MySpace, you guys don't come from that.

That's not true.

That's not true at all.

Who come from where there's no comments?

We come from comments.

Back in the days.

There was comments.

What type of comments?

Nigga, we had to read it in the newspaper.

No.

Or read it in double XL.

We just ain't that.

We're not 60.

Listen, MySpace, it wasn't like that.

It wasn't as engaging and as quick as it is now. Niggas had flip phones and motherfucking next tails when he was popping how he came up.
I'm talking about how you came up. I'm talking about being in media.
We have been. What I'm trying to tell you is that the young lady come from that.
Engaging in the comments when you come from that, same thing with me, you become used to reading it and taking criticism from your audience in order to say,

like, what I'm going to do next.

It helps you.

It fuels you.

That's dope if your business

that you're using the comments for

are on social media, right?

Got it.

If you're a social media personality,

you might listen to the comments.

She's not anymore.

She is a radio broadcast personality.

She's 33 years old.

And for me,

I say it a lot on here, that's not an excuse for me. You don't behave like where you come from.
You behave like where you're going. That too.
Easier said than done, but I understand. Easier said than done.
Well, a lot of people is easier said than done. I know, but you're a walking t-shirt.
That just happens a lot because Flip often in the times of these conversations goes to where we come from. True.
All right, cool. That's true.
Cool we come from that. But, so? But niggas throw you out in the fucking middle of the ocean and say, expect you to learn how to swim.
There's steps to becoming a swimmer. There's steps to adjusting to the media, to what's going on.
I agree with that. It's the same thing.
I can use myself as an example, but I wouldn't. It's just steps.
It's not as easy when you're accustomed of doing things one way. Yeah.
If she's accustomed of going through the comments and saying, yo, my popularity or my credibility relies on this, that's what you're used to. It just takes steps.
It's not as easy as you guys make the scene. I agree.
Yeah, but the difference is... Wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on. Go ahead.
Because she's also used to being one of the people

like talking shit online.

About people.

So if you come from that,

you kind of got,

you already have

a built-in understanding

of how that shit works.

That's not true, Ice.

It sounds good in theory.

That's not true.

It is true.

He's one of them.

I'm one of them.

And Ice takes a joke

way worse than a bunch of us

take them.

I'm talking about...

That's not a comment.

Exactly.

I'm talking about a comment.

Hold on, let me finish.

I'm talking about...

I'm just talking about

giving...

Thank you. way worse than a bunch of us take them.
I'm talking about... Not talking about Comet.
Exactly. I'm talking about Comet.
Hold on, let me finish. I'm just talking about giving power to Comets.
Cool. We Ice friends.
Uh-huh. We love Ice.
Uh-huh. Okay.
Ice don't take jokes well from us. He's gotten really great since you've been going.
He got better. No, I'm just saying.
We've been lighting his ass up. But you get my point.
Yo, Ice knows that we love Ice. I've been laying it on.
We'll go to war with Ice. So now, if he can't take a joke good from us, imagine what strangers might do, in theory, to Ice when he reading the shit.
You know what I'm saying? Now, let me give you the opposite of that. I think that's so backwards, though.
It is very backwards. Let me give you the opposite.
My friends are joking on me. That's not quite the same on ish let me can i let me speak as the person you're speaking about yeah i give more of a fuck what y'all have to say than them that's what that's the mentality before was that's what i'm getting so you're making a face i'm telling you something i'm saying i'm trying to i give more of a fuck what y'all have to say than them which is why they've said way worse shit than has been said about me with the jokes up here since they from from forever also we don't we don't need to get caught here because jess replied to this by saying because she she dismissed that notion she was like no i just happen to think and feel the same way as some of the people that are online it's not me reading the comments and being affected by them.
It's, I feel like this

and we got a savvy audience who's

picking up on this shit and yeah, we agree.

They not influencing me. This is how

I already feel. Yeah, she said that.
Gotcha. Okay.

I just want all parts

of the argument to be represented here.

So we don't need to get caught up

right there. Gotcha.

When I first heard her statement, I was rolling with her. I was agreeing with her.
Like, yo, dog, again, even for us, we four years into this, I had to turn off the comments for myself because I don't be wanting to see that shit. That shit really will affect how you, it's a public perception, right? That somebody has of you that is totally wrong, right? And my nigga, we can say, yo, who gives a fuck what the public think? Who cares? Most people care, bro.
I don't give a fuck. How tough niggas come in here and act like they don't give a fuck? Joe cares.
And Joe been doing this shit for 25 years.

And a public light, Joe will modify some shit predicated on what the comments say.

We all do.

We human beings, bro.

You have.

That's not true.

You have.

Slow down.

Slow down.

Slow down.

Slow down. I don't think it's based off of the comments.

I've heard Joe tell apart.

I believe, and I've said it my whole career, that a lot of that's market research.

Thank you. complain things i've heard joe tell park i believe and i've said it my own career that a lot of that's market research so you have to be able to read and filter what you should be reading and what you shouldn't be reading none of that shit like has that other effect on me what's the other well like i tell all the time, Stack Bundles couldn't read comments because he wanted to drive to people's houses and hurt them.
I never feel like that. I never am angry at the things they say.
Anybody different. And I understand it.
Listen, the number one fear in the country for a while was speaking in public. So I make it akin to that.
Like, is that like a deadly shark coming at you? No, but it's something that people were afraid of. So, yes, it's a thing.
For Jess, when you say it's not as easy as it sounds, the flip side to that for me could be it could be as easy as it sounds. You coming on a show that has been active for 15 years 13 years however not only active but probably somewhere around number one for most of the time that they've been there yeah right no matter what you think of them today legacy is legacy here and what it is so if these people are telling you like when envy and charlamagne are saying, they kick my back in plenty of times and I still got to come in here and do what I got to do.
And Jess's response was, yeah, but that's how y'all carry it. That's not how I carry it.
She missing the memo. She is.
The memo right there is your ego and your pride and how you carry it comes secondary to the gig. I'm agreeing with you.
I'm totally in agreement with you. What I'm saying is Envy and Charlemagne are 15, 20 years in.
It's because they've both been on the radio pre-Breakfast Club. Right? So it's like a veteran football player telling this young football player,

yo, this is how you should carry it.

You get to that level.

You get to that level of thicker skin

that she may not have right now

at this point in her career.

Okay, wait.

Wait, because we still

couldn't play in things

and I want to be clear

and concise

in what I'm trying to say.

Granted,

I'm rolling with your theory.

You ain't there yet. This shit affects you and it bothers you.
I think that's okay. Cool.
Another line needs to be drawn before you get to the internet knowing it's okay. What you mean? Oh, true.
Yes. I agree with that.
We're talking about two different lines. Yes, totally.
I'm not mad at her for feeling however she felt about comments. You just had a baby.
This new girl is kind of ill. Lauren is dope at what she's being asked to do.
The gig. They're dope in different ways.
And they're women. Can we say it? Can we say it here? We can say it.
Where can we say it? You can say it. Is it safe to say it today? We have a bleep button.
The E word? No, it's two chanks. and they're going to say it.
You can say it. It's a safe place.
Is it safe to say it? Today. If we have a bleep button.
No, say it. The E word? No, it's two chanks in a...
They're going to do it. They're going to do it.
Women hate each other. Yeah, they're going to do it.
I think this is where our sound effect would normally come in. I don't think it's that, though, but I'm listening.
It's about... It happens.
A lot. It happens.
I'm not saying it's happening here, but you have to take that into account. That two women women in the same place two cane corsos uh you put them in the same cage you got to take account for them two you do two king lines also i think jess is mistaken and again this is me saying it i think she's mistaken and calling it her segment her whole thinking around her segment and i left and then y'all started giving the segment to lauren uh to lauren to do i just follow her on instagram i say her name right lauren lauren

and then they start giving the segment to lauren and then when i get back to work lauren is still

in the room i understand that it's like you ask somebody to come over for a threesome when y'all

finish fucking that person still there i'm serious it's the same exact thing so i get her looking

in the room. I understand that.
It's like you ask somebody to come over for a threesome and when y'all finish fucking that person, it's still there. I'm serious.
It's the same exact thing. So I get her looking at it funny.
And she even addressed it in her clip. She said, I see why Angela Yee didn't say the way that they handle shit up there, they just not.
It's a lot of framing of shit be wrong. I don't get that.
I'm going'm gonna be honest because this is still business at the end of the day no that part yeah and it's so it's not your it's not you took the words out my mouth it's not your company i think that that gets but you played a lot even but you can still feel a way about how the people are conducting business your companies lie to you all the time yeah even after that what's going on but what i'm saying is you about the direction they're saying, well, yeah, that part. We've seen that happen a million times.
I think they told her one thing. Somebody, somebody told her something.
And I think that's where her biggest gripe was, yo, fam, y'all told me X. Cool.
I come back to work. Y'all still telling me X.
If things have changed, let me know things have changed. So now that I can move around, y'all telling me X and I see Y.
But moving Y. I see Y.
That's the point I was making with the topics. Jess, that show has to have a seat, preferably a lady.
A woman. To run through the hot topics and internet fodder and famous people gossip yeah yeah but i mean it's the hot topic portion when he does it fucking everybody everybody every show every show comes from you do it yeah i do it right i try to put a little nigga i'm on it.
But it's still the same. Same shit.
Jess with the mess

was her

IP that she created

for I'm following it but it's still the same same shit um Jess with the mess was her IP that she created on Instagram that was done a certain way with some opinions to her it was a little more than just a run of the hot topics and that the line is blurred again because Jess whether you there not, somebody has to sit there and run through hot topics.

Yeah.

Whether we call it Nancy's News or whatever the fuck we call it.

Word on the street.

Yeah, yeah, whatever we call it.

She didn't need to get to combining IPs.

Jess with the Mets should have been Jess with the Mets

away from the Breakfast Club.

And whatever this topic segment is, then that needs to be that and it also listen lauren is really good though that too i didn't know about all her tmz background and all that that's always but it's real easy to look at her and listen to her she could read i'm seriously that's the mistake. They put Jess in a position to where

she was fucking up the shit

because she wasn't reading

with the fluidness

is all I'm saying. It's a fact.
It's not Joe

saying it, so y'all have to look at me stupid.

I'm not.

But see, that's where

the mistake come in

because if I'm suggesting

somebody to hold it down while I'm going,

I don't want to suggest nobody that's

Thank you. But see, that's where the mistake come in.
Because if I'm suggesting somebody to hold it down while I'm going, I don't want to suggest nobody that's better at certain things than me. But why not? Because that motherfucker might stick.
But that's the other thing where control... Because if it's just a mess, you're confident in what you're doing.
You can suggest somebody. Better than me.
That's the other spot where control was the illusion. I'm putting somebody here as the company that's good no matter what.
If you have a suggestion that will help, awesome. But you don't call this shot.
That's a good point. Yeah.
That's a good point. Yeah.
But the company lies to you. And she kept saying it.
I picked that. I'm the one that put her there.
I'm the one that put her there. No, baby.
You did not. You are not the one.
You are not the one. Even if she was never on the radar, you're not the one that did that.
You didn't pick. They still had to pick that.
You're right. She suggested her.
Come on, let's have the uncomfortable conversation. No, listen.
So the first day, I'm pro Jess. I'm riding with how she explained it, how she delivered it, all of those things.
It just seemed like corporate doing some corporate shit. So I was rocking with her the first day until the next day and then I was that's when she went to work and when she went to work and they all and now you hear the other sides of the story because there's always other sides of the story and now Envy is saying fam if you felt like that that's cool I spoke to you off camera and I told you that let me know what you feel and we gonna handle it because i fuck with you and i love you and i rock with you i'm gonna do what you say if you don't want shorty in here she don't have to be in here right yeah that's the other thing stop right there highlight that shit yo when somebody is coming to you and asking for honesty sometimes, sometimes it's best to be honest.
Yeah.

Like we live in a world too much where... Our egos and our dick start...

Well, not in her case, but... Don't do that, bro.

Our dick start talking. Don't do what? I'm gonna get you.
Don't do that.

Stop. I'm serious about what I'm

saying. Stop, bro.
I don't know what you think

about. I'm serious about what I'm saying.
You're not.

That was the moment

to say... How you really feel.
I don't

want this young lady in the room while I'm here.

Are you talking about her?

This was pitched to me as the three of us.

Yes.

And it should be the three of us.

She can get her great producing ass to where she was.

I thought you were saying, speaking from the corporate side,

to tell Jess that, no, shorty is doing good,

so she's going to stay in the room.

No.

That's what I thought.

No, no, no.

Envy said that he spoke. If I come to Flip.
No, I'm going to say, nigga, you're not going to find an easy way to deliver messages anyway. It's not about the messages.
It's just saying if he say you'll flip, be honest. Tell me how you feel about up here.
And you lie. We do it to Mel all the time.
We do it to Mel all the time. Mel, you want us to hire another girl? No.
Hell no. I don't want the thought of.
Nah. Mel, cut her eyes at a bitch if she thinks she done walked in.
Mel, dead honest. No.
Don't hire girls. She ain't got to go further.
True. You know it.
Now, look. Now, imagine if Mel said, yeah, sure.
Hire another girl. It'll be great.
And then we hire the girl. But inside, she don't feel it.
I thought you were speaking for another. I thought he was saying Envy and them.
You should have been honest to her in real time. No, no, no.
She should have been honest to them. Got it.
Envy. Because Envy said, yo, I pulled you to the side.
You my nigga, and I'll fuck with you. If we have a conversation and some topics come up, and I'm like, flip.
And I pull you to the side on the balcony and be like, yo, dog, did that bother you?

Do you mind when I speak on this?

And you're like, nah, I don't give a fuck, my nigga.

And then feel the way they do. And then when I come in here and start talking about that shit, you're like, yo, that's fucked up.

He be bringing my such and such into this.

Like, yo, fam, I gave you an opportunity in which to say that you felt a certain way.

So that's what they said.

They said that, yo, they pull her up and was like, yo, dog, if you don't want her in the room, we'll make it to be with she not in the room. You said, nah, I don't give a fuck.
Because now Shorty's greatness going to be here with you now. Because sometimes you want to be a team player.
You want to show that there's nothing that's bothering you. You want to keep your morale up.
Be careful about that because obviously it bothers you. Because now if you say that, then it comes out that you said that you don't want this girl who was killing on there.

How does that make you look at the end? How does it make you look mad? Not a team player. And that's the trick.
To be team player, you have to be a team player. You can't trick greatness.
You know what it takes to be great? Being great. So if you know that later on, actually that comes up today when I fucking do my quit smoking shit i'm not smoking last time

when i quit smoking and then i picked up again i was sneaking to go smoke like i was tricking

anybody but my own self and my own body so now i don't do it because there is nobody to trick

but you you're gonna know when you can't breathe this ain't for nobody else yeah that ain't for

nobody else that's for you know if you know what's about to happen when this girl come work here

full-time save it save yourself that's true if this girl is good and this girl is attractive

I'm going to go to the YouTube. if you know what's about to happen when this girl come work here full time save it, save yourself and this girl is good and this girl is attractive and she can read and she got a background and she's winning over public perception by just doing the job and she's non-threatening like could fit in she could work with three of y'all, she could work with four of y'all.
It's mad problems to have with this good at her job ass, head ass girl. It's just being honest with yourself.
That's true. Nigga, if you like, yo, nah, I don't care if Steph come on.
Steph going Steph. When he get on the court, man nigga, Steph is going to Steph.
And y'all know, that's why y'all reacted to Mark Lamont when we interviewed. Why? Why do you keep doing that? Because that's me and Mark joke and I love that joke.
Hey, y'all need to watch that clip. Who? Y'all.
When I was like, yo, man, thinking about Mark Lamont coming up. The nigga's like, yeah.
You keep forgetting the fact that earlier you were talking about. Yo, stop.
Yo, I'll fry you up. That is me and Mark joke.
No, earlier what you did that day. Earlier that day what you did.
What did you say to us earlier that day? You were criticizing our work. Man, that's bullshit.
Hold on. That's not what took place.
Hey, stop. I'm just telling you what our joke is.
All right. Because we looked at that footage like that.
Don't make the joke like that. Exactly.
Did you see the footage? I was here. I was here.
Did you see the footage? I was here. But did you see the footage? I went to go watch the footage.
No, I didn't. See? But I remember the moment.
He criticized our work earlier than him. No, nigga.
Joe was playing with our intelligence that day. Joe was playing with our intelligence saying, yo, I'm bringing Mark Lamont up here.
Mark Lamont Hill here for y'all. You wasn't bringing him here for us.
You were bringing him here for you. There's a very big difference.
See, not to me.

What's for y'all is for me. True.

But you said, y'all,

you said, y'all, I'm bringing him up here

to give y'all some relief so that each

one of y'all can have a day off every week.

So that each one of y'all can have a day off every week.

Oh, I forgot about that. I forgot all about that shit.

Oh, I didn't. I forgot that he said that.

We ain't got the days off, nigga. You must have forgot.
I didn't forget. So why we ain't get our days off? I keep.
Because Mark is too great. What the heck I got to do with our days? See, I got you.
I'm here. You don't have me.
I'm Sprite. I'm Sprite.
I'm lively today. I'm Sprite.
He got you. You said you ain't forget.
Obey your thirt. No, he do that.
He likes to stick to one. Obey your thirt.
He's Sprite, nigga. He likes to stick to one point.
He got you. He don't have me.
I'm responding to the point. Initially, that was the thinking with Mark.
And that's what he liked to do. Not account for thinking changing.
That's true. Everybody gets a day off.
When Mark got here, he was great at his gig with everybody that was here. Amazing.
Killed it. So I just kept him.
What that got to do with? No, no, no. I got him.
He was too great. I got him.
Nobody gets a day off now. And he's so great.
No, no, no. If Mark is so great.
Why that? I talked a decision to me. No, which I'm agreeing that Mark is amazing.
But if Mark is so great, then when you give Ice a week off the first week, Mark is so great that we not going to miss Ice. Then when you give Mel a day off the second week, Mark's filling in.
So we not going to miss Mel. Then ish, then flip, and go around the board.
And that was your premise, and you told me I couldn't get a day off. He didn't get his day.
But that's not what happened. He didn't get his day.
What happened is you insert a player that improved everybody and everything. So now you keep player in.
I don't understand. No, we're not talking about the player.
The player stays. No, y'all are better when he is.
So everybody in. That's bad to say.
No, which means that your premise sucks, caca, because... Maybe it did.
Oh, all right. Maybe it did suck.
Your premise was phony. No, I didn't know Mark was going to come in and do that.
Stop. That's not true.
I'm not letting you do that. That's no way you're going to say...
I did did not know that Mark was going to do that. What do that got to do? And I don't want to keep breaking the pitfall, but I did not think that Mark was going to be.
What do that got to do with everybody in here getting their respective day off per week? Wait, let me reply to you. Because stupid me thought that everybody was already giving their best, which was a false premise.
What do that have to do? What the don't I got you I don't you want to you want to I don't think you got me you want to Y'all got pom-poms. Y'all got pom-poms.
Get the fuck out of here. Y'all got pom-p think I got you.
I don't. He got you.
He got you. He definitely got you.
I don't think he got me.

You want to talk about Patriots?

But y'all got pom-poms.

Get the fuck out of here.

Y'all got pom-poms.

There you go with the bullshit.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

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Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

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Y'all got pom-poms.

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Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms.

Y'all got pom-poms. Mm-hmm.
That wasn't a low blow. All right.
Well, you can continue on. Let's continue.
We're going to take the Patriot now. Yeah, now.
That was nasty. That was crazy what he did.
No, you too, nigga. You, nigga.
That was crazy right there. Bag lady.
You don't come to bag. That was good.
This nigga impromptu. Yo, Joe.
Yo, Joe is bogged out. Yo, you bogged out too.
I am, but he crazy. Yo, boy, you special, my nigga.
Stop them all again. Shout out to my nigga.
You special. Thank you.
My brain missed this type of gymnastics. It's your aspect of work, nigga.
In closing, man, prayers to everybody up there, man. No, no, no, no.
We ain't closing you up. We ain't knowing there closing you up.

We ain't talking about this guy.

Hey, if you tired of this,

hit the 15-second button, buddy.

A couple times.

Yeah, I'm staying right here.

I ain't even throwing

a trick question out there.

Oh, I didn't know

there was more in there.

Because now, Charlotte...

I thought she went up there

and they squashed it.

No.

Wait, hold on.

I want to defend Charlamagne

for a minute.

And I seen...

Because you know

I don't really watch

the breakfast club.

Y'all forcing me

to defend Charlamagne.

Charlamagne and Joe are really similar. Assholes.
Try to turn everything to a joke. Charlamagne kept trying to joke them out.
That's producing. And I'm glad you said that.
Because that is the part where I was like, you know what? I'm forced to come to work and shoot Charlamagne some bail because maybe people just don't understand. But I didn't like people holding him to the fire for saying that he was gaslighting.
I mean, even in the moment, Lauren did it to him, but she was like, yo, you keep laughing through it, but this is real shit that we never address because y'all get to laugh. And I understand that point.
But I don't, for one second, think that Charlamagne was trying to make light of anything that was going on. He wasn't.
He's trying to make the show fun. I think he was being a professional.
Yeah. I think he understands this is still a show.
You're talking about somebody who has probably been in the most uncomfortable media moments in the past decade. That is true.
He has a bunch of them. That is true.
He got a bunch of them. He got a compilation of them.
No, that's his list. He's in the lead of uncomfortable media moments.
I think this was another uncomfortable media moment and we are watching a professional try to navigate through something that I tried to work through before it got here. That didn't work.
So now we're in the moment. Let me just try to navigate that.
And they was on his ass. I didn't appreciate that at all.
I felt like it was an attack on me. When I looked at him and all of the shit he was saying and all of the shit he was doing, you just kept coming to my brain.
Like, that's some shit Joe would have did. Oh, that's me coming.
Yeah. I ain't gonna hold you.
It did make me understand you a little bit more. No, that's the shit Joe would have did.
That's some shit Joe would have said. Without being in the me, Conan.
Yeah. I ain't going to hold you.
It did make me understand you a little bit more.

No, that's the shit

Joe would have did.

That's some shit

Joe would have said.

Without being in the situation?

Yes.

It made me understand

you a little bit more.

I was like,

that's some shit

Joe would have said.

But also,

if you understand me,

then you know

that I tried to avoid

us getting to this

exact moment

way before we got

to this moment.

That's true.

Which is what it looked

like they did.

And I could see

something else

when she said that Charlamagne texted her and was like, no, tell her shut the fuck up. That's something you would have did.
I thought that was great advice too. It's not great advice because now that gets us to over here.
Further. You know what I'm saying? Way further over here.
Because again, Charlamagne's, and it's not wrong, Charlemagne's brain is the show is paramount before any of us.

That's how this should be treated.

All this art, movies, music, TV, broadcast, anything creative, the product should come before all of the bullshit.

I just wanted to get that out.

No, true.

No, listen.

And the other side is, and I'm not saying you saying it, but anything other than that is a disagreement. True.
And that's a big problem. A whole bunch of money came into the content space, and now we're dealing with a whole bunch of just humans in the content space.
But the content space used to be, everybody's saying, the gig is the gig. True.
No, no, no, look. So I saw Joe in Charlemagne when he like, no, that's some shit Ian would have said.
No, shut the fuck up. And we gonna rock with that.
Right? I saw that and I'm like, yeah, because he's putting the show first. What you not understand and know is these are human beings that may not view it from your lens because they not there yet.
And in that moment, you not thinking this is a show. In the moment.
She's not. He is.
I'm talking about the people that, yes. You're not thinking show in that moment.
Yo, you know where it's okay to not think show? Home. Off the show.
Anywhere off the show you want to not think about the show, you could go do that. When you are here, or not here, but you know.
Yeah, on company time. It is show time.
You are on art time. You are on the audience's time.
I've been home mad. Not mad.
Let me take that back because they hang on to my words, literally. But I've been home jealous at these sports niggas.
Oh, I'm so jealous because I'm a competitor. I want to compete.
These sports niggas are turning I'm jealous because i'm a competitor i want to compete these sports niggas are turning up they are wilding out here and by default that means that fucking cam and them is wilding brandon jennings just all just talking on his show was like yo you know what honestly i'm better than everybody that came out my draft class i'm better than ty lord ty lord i'm better than fucking Drew Holliday. Line him up.
I'm better than everybody that came out of my draft class. I'm better than Ty Law.

Ty Law.

I'm better than fucking Drew Holiday.

Line him up.

I'm better than Jeff Teague.

And I'm sitting there, whether he's supposed to say this stuff or not.

Damn, that looks fun.

I'm just watching the effects of him saying it. Yo, that looks fun.

And now, look, everybody replies.

And now the show is ahead.

It's gone. But it's a little different.
And I'm looking like, that's what's missing. People, that's just for the content.
I don't give a fuck what the reply is going to be. No, in their space, how you looking at me.
Lace them up, nigga. We can prove this.
Right. I'm going to crack your fucking head.
Lace him up. Jeff Teague probably was like, you said

who? You're missing the point though. Look.
I get it.

But wait, let me just say it for the people that

may not. He don't have to know how

to beat them three people in one on one. He could

lose. When Ty Law responded

and Ty Law was a beast.

But when he responded, my first thought

looking at the clip was

you'll never beat him at the content

game.

Because you just on there. Personal.
You just replying. You impersonal.
You scored 45 once. It just wasn't as saucy as Brandon saying whatever the fuck he said.
I'm jealous of that shit. I love it.
Turn up. Compete.
Compete. Compete.
Niggas is getting too busy out here and I done ran out of all the names Of the people's backs I like to kick in Last decade Now I'm fucking older, mature, fly with everybody Everybody's cool I care about y'all's feelings And mental health All that shit that didn't exist before Now I'm coming in here and just reacting to shit You be trying to get me to shoot at him Let's all shoot No. No, nigga.
Let's all shoot. You be wanting me to shoot.
I ain't your pit bull, nigga. I know, but you should be.
But you should be. See, and that's the problem.
You're too much of your own man with dignity. As soon as I get somebody that's my pit bull to come in here, everybody gets hurt.
No, he not. No, he not.
He still tried to be his own man. He's a puppy pit, but...
He tried to be his own man. I need some of my own.
I need Everybody's their own man. So why don't you shoot yourself, nigga? Shoot yourself.
Wait, I don't. Not at the niggas you want to shoot that.
Not at the niggas you want to shoot that? You shoot that niggas who won't shoot back. Go shoot that Jeff T.
I had to remind you who you were, nigga. Joe Budden won't shoot.
You will shoot today. You'll shoot that nigga without guns.
I love Jeff Teague, though.

I know.

Wait, I'm not shooting at Jeff Teague.

No, I'm sure Brandon does, too.

I'm making a comparison.

Shoot at the Jeff Teague or the Steven Jackson or the Matt Barnes or the Gil in that arena.

You won't.

You don't shoot no more like that.

I can't and I wouldn't.

That's what I'm saying.

The equivalent to Gilbert Arenas in this space, you won't shoot at him. Not anymore? Yeah, nigga, pray.
I will follow with art in heaven hollering thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth.
You won't trespass. Let alone shoot.
You won't trespass. You ain't going on that block.
One, I want to start with.

First, I love you.

I love him too.

Ain't he got the power to grow?

I want to start with. I love Ish.

And I like a refreshed, rejuvenated Ish.

It pushes me to be the best I can be.

That to the side.

You're right.

Thank you.

Here we go.

You're right.

Thank you.

But I wouldn't and I won't because i don't have a peer in the space oh um i don't have top of the food chain huh yes i'm telling you something subjective though yeah it's not it is it is it's not it's not it's not i'm telling you quantifiable i'm telling you it's not. It's not.
It's not. It is? It is.
It's not. It's not.
It's not. I'm telling you.
Because it's quantifiable. I'm telling you it's not.
It's not. It's not.
Now, I want to say rest in peace combat, Jack. I feel like anybody black that's in this space doing it, we stand on his shoulders.
Sure. Yes.
That's a fact. I like that, yeah.
I start there. Rest in peace combat.
You the neck? Pause. Anything else is very different.
So I don't, and I wouldn't because the people are building. I've been there.
I love these people. It's a whole new genre for everybody.
Everybody go crazy. But yo, get out of the black space because we're not urban.
There are podcasts. Then they can talk.
Yo. Then they can talk.
You talk. Shoot.
We talking about you shooting. We need a clip that say, bitch.
Wait, what? We talking about you won't shoot. Yo, fuck out of here.
I don't understand what they do. No, nigga, we hot right now.
All them white people you talking about. I didn't say no color.
I'm just saying at the table. You said out of the black space.
So you're right. They could be Filipino, whoever they are.
Yeah, yeah. If you at that table, then talk.
But they not talking. What are you talking about? No, no, no.
You said you wanted him. And I'm not coming out to just start shooting at the Serial podcast.
What do you think I look like? This is an art to this shit still. Bam.
No, I'm not coming in tomorrow to start shooting. The number one.
Yeah. Them niggas, they the one.
What the fuck you talking about? So what you talking about? So what are you talking about? You can't fuck with them, nigga. Yeah.
You said you at the top. You said they not your peer.
So come in here to grow the crusade against, call her daddy. So let me add on to that.
Spank your fucking head. So let me add on to that.
So let me add to it. Spank your fucking head, nigga.
My peers, we don't behave that way. We don't behave that way.
I'm fucking speaking. We don.
What song is that? Like, you a bitch? What song is that? We don't behave that way. I need to follow up on that song.
That's when you win the game. When you win the game, one of the perks you get is you don't have to be.
I know. I know.
Got you, man. How are you talking? Continue to shoot at the niggas without guns and play it safe.
That's all. I mean, he'll shoot not shooting at podcasts I know you shoot at niggas He don't shoot anymore That nigga said I want to do what Brandon did If you want to do what Brandon did Nigga pick up a ball No pick up a gun up a ball.
That won't happen again. But I don't mean exactly what he did.
I just mean somebody coming in and just going crazy. So when I see somebody going crazy, like something ticks in me.
I think the problem is, real quick, it's relationships. To me.
If niggas didn't care about relationships, niggas just go crazy. That's part of it.
No, but this is the thing too. It plays a big part.
Them niggas is talking about whooping. We talking about content space.
Now, the niggas talking about whooping. Hold on.
The niggas in our demo going to see you outside and might have a problem and so that's where it gets a little different. I was just going to say, content space.
We living in content. I don't look at that way at all.
You shoot back. I don't make it look like that at all.

We in the content space.

But even that.

And you would go crazy.

You would be out here going crazy.

Oh, yeah?

But you choose not to because, like I said, you shoot at the niggas who you know won't shoot back.

If I went to like that, it would get expensive.

Yeah. But he ain't exempt.
I can make it so he can never see me. He would only see me in the strip club.
That's the only place he would bump into me. It's like I see you at.
Oh, nigga, you know how I feel if we've been talking. I'm talking about when I'm moving around, moving and shaking, looking a certain way just by myself.
That could get uncomfortable. That would be expensive.
But if you talk a certain way, then shit invest. You could do that.
I'd just rather not live that way. But that's what we're saying.
That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying.
That's all. That's the only difference in this space.
This space is niggas. Like niggas.
His ego is still there. He's like this.
He's trying to to battle someone to say no I don't think we have no conversation here that I haven't had on my own time we ain't pondering a new thought you gotta just watch yourself bro real time IRL nigga IRL T in real time watch yourself you start twitching your lip that's the same shit with Imani nigga start doing that, start doing that. That lip twitch.
Yeah, count to ten. Count to ten.
Woosah. Woosah.
Let's get back to creation. That's the difference.
Because even me, it's the same thing. I know.
Because you have to go and it gets expensive and you have to go all the way sometimes. You got to be prepared to go wherever it's going to go.
The first thing niggas do, bring, and we go, like, it gets real tricky outside. So if you stand, there's just some niggas that stand on that, but there's some niggas that do it.
But the niggas that do it are not outside. Not just that.
They are a thousand miles away in their fucking crib. Not just that, though.
Like, the Jeff Teague shit. It ain't no disrespect there.
Yeah, we talking about hooping. We just talk.
I get it. So if Jeff Teague sees Gilbert Arenas.
They probably laugh over this shit. They going to laugh, nigga.
You know I gave you 50 in AAU, nigga. Don't forget.
You know you couldn't handle my motherfucking carry, my gym socks, nigga. In our space and in our medium, when you say something shit about somebody, you might have to see them outside.
It's going to go immediately to disrespect. Look at your button.
Look at your button. Put some clothes on, you freaky ass boy.
You get what I'm saying? So it's different. You ain't been to the hookah spot system, nigga showed up with bear spray.
Oh. You ain't been to the hookah spot system, nigga showed up with bear spray.
My son was dead, nigga, we was there together. So? Oh, he bought you for the muscle.

Oh, shit.

Told you it was the pit bull.

Burr.

Nigga said you was a baby pit.

I mean, don't bring me around, nigga. It'd be too expensive to bring me around.

Snarf, snarf.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit, you call me Snarf?

I know that dog, nigga.

Snarf, yeah.

Watch your mouth.

He's a cat, nigga.

Whatever.

Oh, you call me the fat shit. Don't call me that, nigga.
I don't know that dog. He's a cat, nigga.
I'll call me the fat shit.

Don't call me that nigga.

I'm gonna go that shit.

Nah.

It'd be too expensive

for me outside to go.

I'm gonna go all the way out.

Yo.

No, but

when I heard Charlamagne,

I saw like similarities.

So that was an education

of just watching

how they navigated that

and handled it.

But

once Envy and Charlamagne said, yo dog, we came to you on the side and said, yo, how do you want to handle this? Let us know. And you elected to handle it like X.
Now you can't come and complain about how we handle it like X because that was a decision that you said. So now I jumped ship.
Yeah, I didn't like the, you're pitting us against each other. Like, fam, we came to you and said this.
I'm cool. Just don't lie.
That's it. But you know what it is? Like you said, Flip, a lot of people, it's ego-based.
It's egos. And I don't want to look like that person that I can't go with this shit.
So, yeah, nah, I don't care about that.

When you really care.

Is there a wrong time to get pregnant?

No.

From a business perspective or a person?

I'm just asking y'all, however you take it,

however you carry it.

However you carry it, it's okay.

And then after that, we'll do the ad,

and that'll be the end of that.

Yes.

No.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Unfortunately,

unfortunately,

yes,

but she was not a wrong time,

but you got to take

what come along with it.

Yeah.

So the timing could be wrong.

Shout out to her.

She has a blessing.

For your business.

I'm not saying personally.

Yeah, yeah.

For,

for,

from a business aspect,

there can be a wrong time.

She said she planned it.

She said she planned it. I don't think so.
I did it on purpose. I wanted a baby.
So that's what I did. Yeah, I don't think it's a wrong time.
I don't think it's a wrong time. I think that from what I heard, and I don't want to disrespect none of the people involved, I think that from what I heard, had she spoken up and been honest and forthright with them and said, yo, dog, I'm not comfortable with what I came back to.
Let's modify this. And if they

would have modified it, then she would have been straight.

True. That's what I think.

I'm just saying, professionally,

there is a wrong time

for that.

That's all.

Yeah.

Professionally,

it's a wrong time to be pregnant.

It can't hurt you.

It can hurt.

I'm not saying nothing about

Thank you. professionally it's the wrong time to be pregnant yeah it can't hurt it can hurt I'm not saying nothing about children being a blessing you know I agree with all of that I'm just saying professionally timing can can affect you I want to speak on this but I feel like I put my foot in my mouth don't do it don't do it I want to talk I want speak truth to power on this subject right now, but I don't know if it's worth it.
Nah, we good. You trying to manifest the baby? It's coming.
It's coming. You with some sleep, boy? Boy.
You know what's coming. That nigga right there with some sleep.
Twin girls. Twin girls.
I know. Twin girls, boy.
He gonna be, I can't wait. I cannot watch y'all swear yup something different yup can't wait bro y'all fucking swear don't y'all know this girl think that if I propose it's supposed to be super ill because I did it twice before to other people yeah yeah the bar set nigga if y'all knock that bullshit the fuck off the bar set set, my nigga? How you planning on proposing? You gotta go to the moon or some shit.
Of course you're not gonna say it. You gotta go to the moon or some shit.
You gotta propose in space. I understand that we can't say that that don't make sense.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is like the fucking push gif.
What are we talking about here? But you bodied the other two. Stop it.
You gotta body that one. Stop it.
No, stop it. You gotta do that shit in the helicopter, nigga.
I'm not saying nothing because I ain't about to to get caught up. You got to have a ring hanging on the helicopter.
That is some of the, yeah, that's some of the worst logic I've heard. So, old nigga, you was there.
I don't care if love and hip hop body did. That is some of the worst logic.
I'm sure that there are women out there that think like that, so I'm shutting up. You got to use real life health issues like my back fucked up, I can't go on my knees.
You got to say shit like that. I got sclerosis.
What you got to get? Can't have been down no more on my knees. It's like the stupid ass girl that was like, oh my God, don't bring me to this beautiful, amazing restaurant with the great vibe and the great food if you brought someone else here before.
It's like, why not? I like this place. That's the exact reason that I'm bringing you here.
Because I know the vibe and the food is good. Yeah, we had a blast.
Me and What's the Face they came here. Why would I not want you to experience that? I mean, I could go back and get her and we go again.
No, or I could take you to some new shit that the vibe ain't popping and the food is trash. That part, that part is absolutely trash.
But I've only experienced this shitty food with you, ma. What? Girls can do some crazy fucking shit.
Yeah, come with some subpar proposal, though. Watch how that play out.
This shit gonna be regular instead of texting you. I don't think that.
Hey, yo, check your text message real quick while you're sitting there. Picture the ring.
I don't even know what that means. What is a subpar proposal? I know it's not our business to say.
It's something I'm going to say. You have a bar set.
Yeah. You just got to call yourself and be creative that she's going to love, bro.
It's really that simple. And she's telling him.
Put some thought into it. Yeah, subpartion.
You'll do great. Nigga.
And she is telling him, I've seen you two times before. Don't.
Hey, we're going to get seen. This won't get seen.
Shit. You're out of your goddamn mind.
Now, Corey, right, though? Okay, okay. Unless Joe decides to have, because she's not going to know when it's coming.
He would have to be the person to say record. It would be his decision.
I'm only even thinking about this because I want to get it done before ice. What are you racing me for? Because you're going to do something stupid, like fucking horse and carriage.
No. You're going to put fucking pink roses all over New Jersey, northern New Jersey.
You're going to try to raise the bar and change shit for men moving forward. I'm not fucking with you.
I'm doing what she would want. Yeah, I don't like that.
I know you don't. Yeah, I don't like that.
The proposal not for me. Fuck that shit.
Don't try to up it on the proposal. That's exactly what you do.
Exactly. You do what she wants.
I'm not paying these niggas no mind. Yo, Yo, don't up it.
It's not upping, because every up is different for every woman.

I'm doing what my woman wants. Man, they ruined my idea already.

I told y'all I was going to go to Turkey Leg Hut, put the ring inside one of the turkey legs.

Don't go when she hungry.

Have them bring it to the table.

Because that was the first DM.

Damn, you was at that Turkey Leg Hut.

That's my smart girl. See? Oh, that would have worked.
That was fire. Sentimental.
That was fire. Yo, you know how I know I'm super toxic? I'm going to say this and I'm going to move off this topic.
Oh, man. Let me get my pillow ready.
Y'all know there's people out there today that I won't even say happy birthday to? Oh, no, that's toxic? Do you know that there's women out there That I will not DM or text Or just say Happy birthday I don't understand What's wrong with that You understand Yes you do Like you mean your exes Or people that People People Women Women That's a problem I ain't Yeah Okay? I got something I want to say that shit to. That's so toxic.
How? That is toxic to not be able to say happy birthday to women. Fuck your birthday.
How is that toxic? I don't feel like him. I'm just saying.
If I don't say that, I'm saying. If I don't fuck with you.
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying happy birthday is going to lead to you fucking the girl.
Okay, you can have that. So you can't say happy birthday because she's going to say, oh, thank you so much.
Or you could just say happy birthday and have some control and don't fuck the girl. Yo, you don't see, I'm sitting here like.
What the fuck is, I didn't know that's what you was talking about. You're crazy as hell.
You're not going to fuck the girl. No, you don't.
If you say happy birthday and it go right. Why do it got to go past? It's just going to lead to.
You got it, bro. Shit just going to fall.
gonna leave Shit just gonna fall You don't have to put a candle in a cake My nigga you could say happy birthday And keep it pushing What's wrong with you? You shouldn't even paint that position for nobody You shouldn't even put nobody in that type of predicament Honestly Yeah salute Must be nice be him. You can't even beat it off.
You're like, no, get away from me. You can't even run from it.
I love it. I play the worst on the pod, so y'all can play the best.
You made this scenario up. I know.
And y'all like, no, no, man. I'm not the dead boy.

Stop, nigga.

Come on, Price Beats.

That's my man. My man is back now.

Nigga trying to pull me in the swamp with him all the time.

Because I've seen you say happy birthday to bitches.

Dude, that.

Yo, this guy is different, bro.

Yeah, yeah.

This nigga trying to pull me in the swamp with him.

Yeah.

Oh, non-smoking vocals.

This nigga is special. Not the non-smoking vocals.
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We got the Leon Thomas remix that he's been announcing was coming with Chris Brown. I know everybody up here loved the Leon Thomas Mutt remix.
We did get that. That he's been, you know, announcing was coming with Chris Brown.
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Bong

Alright first verse is the same

I know what we're here for

You know it

Let's just get to it

Here we go.

Use your back! Hey! Hey.

Hey.

Boy sounds good. Yeah, he does.
Real good. All right.
There you go. There you go.
CB remix, because he already had Freddie Gibbs remix featured on the same album. Shout out to Chris Brown.
This sounds great. It does.
Shout out to Breezy. Shout out to Leon.
Glad I got it. Listen, if you could put one of your better songs out with Chris Brown on it, you should do it.
What? You should do it. That sounds fire.
No brainer. You put one of your worst songs out with Chris Brown on it.
It might become your best. Absolutely right.
Shout out to friend of the show, Leon Thomas, man. For sure.
Facts, facts, facts. Who else came out? Kevin Gates? Kevin Gates? Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Gates came out. He dropped I'm Him Too, which, you know, follow up to I'm Him, of course.
I played it, actually dropped on Thursday, which was a little weird to me. I've noticed a couple, I saw like a couple albums, a couple singles.
People are starting to drop on Thursdays. I don't know if there's some marketing or billboard game they playing now with that.
But anyway, the album's great. Like Kevin Gates has become Mr.
Consistent to me. He really don't miss on a project.
I'm pausing that anyway. Consistent? Kevin Gates has been Mr.
Consistent for me. On me.
I said for me. For me.
For me. If you said on, then that would be wrong.
I'm giving it a pause. All right.
Either way, I'm just giving it one. I'll take it.
Hey, listen. No, but you said something about his last project.
Yeah. You really liked his last project.
His last? Last time he came through. I kind of want to watch the.
You good? I'm chilling. Body.
Just want to make sure you good. Body the last project too.

Every time I call this nigga come over,

he come slay some shit.

Slay the speakers.

Yeah, I'm crazy.

I'm probably going to play

a sleep off of it.

He had two singles

or, yeah,

two singles that he dropped

prior to the album.

Kevin Gates is on my

Mount Rushmore of niggas I want to interview, but I won't. I want to see the Bobby interview.
Bobby shit, she holding on. She holding on, for sure.
Still, I want to watch this one. Just hold on.
I'll watch any Kevin Gates interview. He's on that list.
He's a good interview, bro. You never get jokes off these niggas He should get one On the defibrillator

Pushy on

Clear

Bobby on one

She's holding on

She's gonna find him black

She's gotta find him black

I mean

Niggas don't never go

To fucking Uncle Jesse

From Full House

To fucking keep him afloat

Nah, that ain't gonna work

Anyway, go Kevin Gates

Yeah, good project

Check it out

Uncle Jesse

Bobby shit is in the pit. Speaking of, you was wrong.
Which happens every leap year. How often leap year occur again? A couple times you're here.
I'm stupid. Every three weeks.
Every four months. Every three weeks.

I'll be wrong.

Let me not do that because when I listen

back to the pod,

I sound like a nigga

that think he ain't wrong a lot.

So I'll take that back.

I be wrong.

And I just got to learn

how to sound like

I be wrong.

Yeah, because

the way you describe

it to us.

Yeah, it works.

It works.

It works.

It works.

It works.

That's dope, bro.

Part of the gift, though, is sounding right in the wrong. It's tricky.
Yeah. But anyway.
But at least you'll get admitted to the wrong. The pit.
Let me hear. When was I wrong? How was I wrong? Is it good, first of all? Yes.
Yeah, the pit is good. The pit is good.
I wasn't never trying to say the pit wasn't good, by the way. No, but the way.
You didn't sell it at all. The way you.
Yeah, you didn't do it right. You didn't- The way you sold it- I started with, it's like an old FX show.
I don't get that. Stop it.
And then y'all said, new FX or old FX? I said, old FX. And y'all was like, oh, that's good.
So I wasn't trying to downplay it. Well, the way- You downplayed it, though.
You were saying how- Shit don't connect between the- Between the people that work there. You made it seem like like outside of the patients, there's no story that carry on from episode to episode.
First off, it's almost 24-based, where the entire season takes place in one day. Every episode is an hour in the same emergency room.
That's part of the problem I was speaking to. How is that part of the problem? Because it's too many patients coming in with problems.
I don't want to say too many like it's not good. But when you first watch it, I was overwhelmed by the patients that were coming in and all of the story and problems that the patients had.
True, but even the patients, it's not like they're coming in and rolling out in the same episode. So all of this shit is ongoing.
I mean, I'm only at episode five or six right now. I'm only at seven.
So I'm still early on. I think it's a 15-episode season from what I've been told.
Damn. It's some wild, wild, wild shit.
And a lot of the healthcare people that work in emergency rooms and shit, because I've been tweeting about it, they're hitting me like, yo, nigga, this is what we see for real.

A lot of people are saying this is the closest depiction of what the emergency room really looked like that we've seen on television.

And that's what I was going to say.

I never saw the show, but I've dated a few nurses in my day.

Oh, we know.

You?

We know. And no, they be saying like that shit is crazy.
So this person right here might come in with a gunshot wound. This person might here come in with pneumonia.
So that shit is moving around like that. You saying you ain't like that.
They was going through one whole day with one different episode per hour. No.
I was saying I come from House and Grey's Anatomy, which meant there were storylines, multiple storylines with the people that worked in these places. On this show, as up to the point where I was watching it, the storyline just came from the patients.
But if you're in one day with Grey's Anatomy and House, we might see when Johnny met Kathy and now they start fucking. You know what I'm saying? I'm in episode seven.
I ain't seen that yet. That was all I was trying to say.
I wasn't trying to say it wasn't a good show. From episode one, I don't have all the names yet, but from episode one me and my lady watching and I'm like, okay, fucking you can tell who was fucking the the main doctor in the the black girl with the short hair short hair you can tell and then by i'm at like like i said five or six somebody said to her yeah but you know talk to him y'all have history she's like yeah but that was ages ago i'm like you could tell you could see the interaction between them that there's something there sure he's pregnant now we guessing okay was, okay, was it this nigga? Like, what's going on? Like, there is storyline in there.
I'm at episode seven and I still don't have that they was fucking. I have.
They said it. Oh, I didn't hear it.
Shorty said it to her. She was like.
She didn't say we were fucking. She said, y'all have history.
That don't say that we were. Or we dated ages ago or something like that, she said.
Listen, I'm not trying to say I didn't miss anything either. But I haven't heard that yet.
I'm going to keep it a buck. That's what I took.
I said, Joe, this looks like the way you explained it. You was on the phone? Yeah.
That's literally what I said. This nigga had to have been on the phone or not fully paying attention to it and distracted a little bit.
Because then you could miss shit. No, that was my take.
I got it. I didn't miss nothing.
I watched something and came back with my take. But you might have missed that part with one of the Nigerian realtors.
Nigga, I would have had to miss a lot of parts. I'm in episode seven, and I don't see the doctors fucking.
I see the interns are fuck-ups, and the OGs in the hospital are keeping this together. I don't see nobody fucking.
I don't see nobody related to nobody. I don't see it yet.
But that's not

me saying it's bad. Please.
The other shit I

like about the show,

I think I was three episodes in and we done already

seen two or three people die.

It ain't all happy ending shit.

Yeah, this ain't happy ending. This is real shit.

The one little young dude

who, I think

it's his first day or something there.

There's a lot of students working as well. Lost a patient on the table.
He's sitting there. They all tell him, yo, he gone.
He just won't give up. Just press him, press him, press him.
Yo, no, no. He's going to be all right.
No, fam, he gone. Now you got to live with that.
That's the other thing that's kind of disturbing about the show and then we can leave it. Yeah.
For me. This is not an ad for me.
I just, I really like this show. In closing,

death is so sudden sometimes.

I know I gave y'all

enough of that

in the last part

so we can skip it.

But watching the show,

it's like,

he in here for one thing,

they roll him in here,

oh shit,

we did something wrong,

he's dead.

We lost him.

Like,

God damn.

No,

give me a snap

or some shit first.

The fucking,

the teenage boy

that came in there.

Yeah. That was the one.
Well, not the teenage boy, I'm thinking about somebody else. The teenage boy that came in there and his parents just would not accept.
So the doctor is trying. Yo, the doctor, his bedside manner is out of this world.
In a good way or a bad way? In a good way. Okay.
Like, they already know he's brain dead. It's's over but he don't want to just lay that on

the family too quick yo we'll run another test all right we're gonna go do this now this one

takes an hour to come back he and they telling him yo you holding up this spot we got a whole

yo they waiting room is nuts we holding up this spot yo get this kid out of he's like no

i'm trying to help the family the parents don't understand we're gonna work our way through this this is giving them time to prepare for the news that I really got to give them got it this shit is fire though so check it out there we go watch it yeah watch it watch it I might we do all that shit I might I might it sounds kind of dark and dark. It's not, though.

It's just real shit. I could never, never.
I was watching that shit. I'm like, yo, about 30 minutes in, I said I went home.
First day? Oh, nigga, what? Gone. They numb to that shit.
Back to my breakfast club topic. Let me get off the pit for a little bit.
Yeah, yeah. I don't think that there's a wrong time to get pregnant either.
I do think that

if you get pregnant

at the wrong time

and your replacement

is really, really, really good,

then you're coming back

to deal with some

different circumstances.

It's possible.

And I don't want to,

I'm never going to compare

a pregnancy to injury,

but in sports, you don't plan on the injury. Right.
Drew Bilesa. Yep.
All of them. All of them.
Like, I don't want to say it, but, you know, all of them. And that's got to be tough for women, right, to weigh that.
Yeah. That's where the career versus, that's where that argument comes from.
Well, there's some women that don't connect the two. There's some women that don't connect the two, and there's some that do.
Well, some careers, one won't affect the other. And then there's other careers where one directly affects the other.
I've spoken to older, successful business women that have made the decision to not have children because of the path that they were on. Yeah, my jobally.
My job is so, it even takes,

it kind of even takes

precedent over relationships.

And I was about to say.

Yo, my job is so demanding

that I can't even really

get serious with this person

because I can't give them

that much time.

Can't give them that much.

And the other part of that,

to add to what you're saying,

is right,

there's some women

that are making their decision

not just based on them

and how they feel

and their job trajectory

but they're the breadwinner of the relationship.'m gonna sit down it's fucked up now for some women it ain't just them it ain't just them I can't do it for us it gets deep I can hold you I'm glad that men don't have to make that decision I would fuck it up too I would do it wrong Unfortunately It'll be a lot less babies out here If we had to make that decision Niggas are selfish when it comes to that Coming to the money Nigga Niggas be selfish once they get their girl pregnant I know But I'm talking about If the pregnancy would stop a man's career A lot less niggas is going to choose to go get that bag.

Because that's where our value is.

The world looks at our value is how much money you get to the bag.

How much money you make?

Fuck the passion in the moment.

Fuck all that shit.

How much money you make?

That's true.

Niggas put the bag above everything else.

Not saying it's a good thing, but.

But you're asking niggas to sit down for like a year. more than a year by the time you go get right after the baby.

It's a lot.

Wait, wait.

That's when I look at the little sonogram.

I'm sorry, Jeffrey.

I love this little dot.

Little dot? These hoes.

Oh, man.

Jeffrey, he was going to be a star

if we didn't

make the wrong decision.

Oh, shit.

And you can't do that in front of the girl

because she got a connection to the dot

on the paper.

She's like,

look,

it's right there.

You're like,

where is it?

I know the name of it.

The gestation sack.

The gestation sack.

That's what it is.

They be dead ass

connected to that

little motherfucker.

I'm like,

they be like,

look,

Jeffy's right there.

And you be a dude like,

wait,

where?

You just look like some Nintendo static. Like you playing Pong, nigga.
Look like the early stages of some shit I'm going to abandon. Oh, y'all.
Don't touch me. Don't touch me, yo.
You can't stop, yo. Look how they look with both parents.

A dot.

None of y'all know.

I'm blowing it on this.

Loser beats.

Yo, y'all think that niggas had to always be mature is all I'm saying.

And I hate when y'all do this.

I don't give a fuck. I'll play Eric B and Rakim

to support what I'm saying.

You better not. I done had these conversations before.

You better not. We can move these conversations before.
Come on.

You better not.

We can move on.

You had them conversations?

Yes.

Oh.

Yes, Antoine.

There we go.

I'm going to eat with that.

Sip the juice.

All right.

What else we got?

What else we got?

What's happening? It's a lot happening. It's a lot happening, nigga.
The feds is doing it. They done a sweep, nigga.
Criminal Minds, let's go. Doing a sweep, man.
Take it away. Take it away, Queensflip.
Well, I'm not your criminal expert. Yes, you are.
Yes, you are. You are.
Yo, you got kicked out of both. Yeah.
Oh, shit. Hey, yo, listen, old man.
Nigga, when you got... Listen, stop.
The feds right now, I mean, it's been a lot going on. The Rolling 60s, the Crips, you know, the feds swept down on them, charged them with a Ricoh case, big U&M.
Yeah. The feds also arrested Yellow Beezy, connected with the, you know, Moe 3 thing.
That's state. That was state.
That was state. Yeah, that's state.
Okay. But is something going on in law enforcement right now where all the police is locking people up? Yeah, it's called social media.
Nigga, I don't know. I'm kind of nervous.
I asked Joe, yo, listen, big dog, look, if they come in here for me, what are you doing? Are you letting them in? We had a discussion off camera. Hopefully the behind the scenes caught it.

But they are on niggas' asses.

I think it's the start of the second quarter.

The budget is opening up.

And niggas want to get paid.

That's my lighthearted thing about it.

Because, you know,

there's a lot of people that families are hurt and there's a lot of things going on right now.

I don't want to make jokes about the people

that's currently getting arrested.

But, yeah. The feds do it a sweep, Joe.
I know, but you a civilian. I am.
But I mean, the way they work, they capture shit from 15 years, 16 years ago. And they know he...
You was in a T-Mobile commercial. You're a good kid.
You was a T-Mobile commercial gangster killer? Wait, who are you? Nigga had the Gucci rag on the caddy. Gucci gang, nigga.
I told you I tried to scam, nigga. I told you what happened when I tried to scam, but they come back for everything, nigga.
They see everything and they know everything. They're going to bring Flip in that office.
That nigga going to do to Anthony Anderson. He did it.
What the fuck out of here? Hell no. He did it.
Hell no. You can do it up do it up here Oh shit That's just more for jokes I know I know Now when your freedom is on the line Jokes become serious It put pressure on y'all But Nah man I feel like I don't know what's going on They tired of nigga shit I'm a civilian So I mind my civilian business Apparently some of y'all out there Are not civilians And y'all are in a different business.
Do you think social media... And y'all are out there in a different business telling and showing them the business you're in.
Which I don't really get but I figure I'm just not evolved enough or educated enough in y'all's side of the business. But if I was in y'all's side of the business, I wouldn't do the business like that.
My thing is me being on this side of it, I shouldn't know y'all side of the business. The fact that I know it means the people that are trying to lock y'all up know it.
Do y'all think social media is solving most of these crimes? Yes. No, I think the police are solving most of the crimes.
But the dodos on social media are giving them the evidence. And all I got to do is go, oh, that was an interview that you did in 2019.
Let me put that with the interview you did in 2022. Let me put this with a different niggas interview in 2023.
Dog, they making this shit so easy now. A motherfucker can walk off the street and investigate this case and have it all the way laid out.
You don't even have to connect it. They telling you, yo, yesterday.
Freeze. I did this.
Are you on the side of blaming the interviewer or interviewee? Interviewee. So you're not blaming the interviewer.
Interviewee is the one that's talking, right? I'm a little slow. Yes, that's who I'm blaming.
So you're blaming the person that's actually sitting on the couch. You shouldn't even be on the couch.
You are a criminal and you have shit to hide. Hide it.
You should not be in front of a camera talking. Hide it.
About anything. About anything.
thousand percent it's down now you have shit to hide hide it you should not be in front of a camera hide it about anything about anything thousand down now you have some of them that are trying to either transition into a different career talk about music but and and i've seen i've seen those people get interviewed i've seen the interviewer try to trip them up and they move accordingly i'm not mad at that but i'm talking about the people that you ain't even trying to, you just want some shine. I agree with you, but we gotta be honest.
A lot of niggas, man, their glory days is past them. So some of these interviewers are offered in a bag, and when you offer a bag, sometimes the bag is juicy enough to go sit up there and go talk.
You know what I mean? They offer a bag or they offer a monthly stipend. They do.
I don't agree. And I don't agree with that.
That's a certain portion of it. I do.
Devil advocated the wrong, Dan. No, I do.
No, I am on his side. You're playing the devil's advocate.
I am on his side. Why do you always get at me like that? I'm on his side about, I feel like you shouldn't sit there and talk, but niggas is offering money.
Hey, I offered money before when I was up. But Flip, the part.
Come here. Flip.
I did. And the numbers went up and I made triple.
It ain't even just them that's talking, though. It's niggas who ain't yesteryear niggas who still...
Listen, let me explain something. You know the trick to the media shit? You bring somebody up there to talk about a situation, you pay them, that opens up the door for somebody to come respond.
Now you have a long history of content that you can make money off of. True.
And that's all niggas is if i sit up here right now talking about joe schmoe nigga yo back in the days i violated joe schmoe hit with a bat bow nigga fucked up joe schmoe is gonna do an interview with respond and most likely the person that's interviewing me is gonna interview him okay now let's move that to the side a pool of money what do you say to the nigga that takes his own camera and do this and start i don't agree with that i don't agree with none of it but it's What do you say to the nigga that takes his own camera and do this and start talking? I don't agree with that.

I don't agree with none of it.

What do you say to the guy that wants you to have bigger aspirations?

No, nigga.

What do you say to the nigga?

You're the only nigga that wants probably niggas.

That's not true.

And Milo and them.

Look, so what happens to the nigga that...

Look, you're so stupid.

Niggas don't want niggas to have big aspirations.

Niggas are fascinated by the stories. Niggas, we sit here and we watch them.
I watch that nigga. What's that nigga that breakdown you so stupid niggas don't want niggas that have big admiration niggas are niggas are fascinated by the stories niggas we sit here and we watch them I watch that nigga what's that nigga that breakdown okay what I'm trying to say is and I don't want to say this you should the murder should be more important than the digital footprint I agree with you if we did that nobody should know we did that no no the nigga smacked Joe Schmoe with a shovel right you just said he smacked Joe Schmoe for Joe Schmoe to now come on that same show and say yeah that's why we caught his brother by the stoplight and we put two in him Joe Schmoe was a fucking idiot my nigga I agree with that that way I do want to play devil's advocate a little bit in some of this okay cause the same way I watch American Greed and be applauding them white people with some of the crimes they come up with I I don't really have the biggest problem with, I wouldn't do it, but with robbing and charging you to get it back.
Cool. I'm stating, but I think that's just street taxes.
It is. It is.
Now, why are you getting on a camera saying, I'm not talking about that. We robbed him and we paid him.
And we made him pay to get it back. You're connecting.
I don't think you should have said that. But nobody knows if you don't say it.
See, and you talking about saying, and I agree, that's wrong. A step further than that, Big Freeze.
Hey. I'm seeing the crime.
But I think some kind of. Hey, some of these crimes they ain't talked about and I see them

on whatever site

it's on

you still gotta remember

there's niggas that tell

so like

there's niggas out here

so we talking about

interviewers

there's still situations

that happen when niggas

use that as leverage

to get free

y'all know this crime

that happened over here

but that's the part

niggas are talking

and they not

there's no threat

to their freedom

we talking about

two different things

I understand

when the police do

police work

they catch you

that's different

they earned it

when niggas is out here

making these niggas Thank you. there's no threat to their freedom.
We're talking about two different things. I understand.
When the police do police work to catch you,

they earned it.

When niggas is out here

making these niggas

put me in jail

and they didn't have to do no work

to put you in jail,

you are a fucking idiot

because you only doing it

for the sake of being more famous.

I'm with you.

Niggas out here

putting themselves in jail.

Not even another nigga.

Street respect.

They put themselves in jail.

Why do people get mad

at the interviewers?

Yo, you doing this,

y'all doing that.

I think the interviewers

that are not. I'm talking about everything but the criminals right now.
Yeah. I'm still stuck on that.
I just want y'all to know that. It's all the criminals.
It's all the criminals. And it's going to sound like that.
I say all the time. No, I just said about the criminals.
You're the only one that. I say all the time.
You can't. Even when we joke about the behind the scenes camera.
What do I say? I say if you don't say it. If you don't say it, you don't have to worry about it going out.
If you got some shit you don't want out, shut the fuck up. True.
That's it. True.
That's true. That's it right there.
And don't even fuck with the little illusions. Nothing.
Shut the fuck up. But in today's time.
How about stop doing crime, right? No. Well, crime is going to always be there.
I ain't going to say stop doing it. Crime is always going to be there.
And I think that's why we don't really highlight the criminals. I mean, it's our responsibility to do so, but the world is filled with crime.
We became desensitized to crime. We kind of expect crime to happen.
So when we're not sitting here condemning the criminals or even if some of them are our peers, it's because the world is filled with it. It happens every day.
Nothing's going to change. Crime is going to happen.
The real problem is niggas made the criminal the hero. Exactly.
Niggas made the criminal. So now other niggas want to be the hero.
That's a good point. That's really what it is.
We look up to, but that's been, we looked up to the drug dealer. The drug dealer was the man.
It's been like that since the beginning of the time. I know, but now social media and shit, now you knew shit by word of mouth.
You knew shit by word of mouth. You knew shit unless you saw it.
It's worse. Now social media and these camera phones and all of this shit got the criminal himself wanting to broadcast to the world that I am the criminal so that my name rings bells not just

on my block in my hood but across

the world. He's right.
That's why I

always say like we had this discussion

before do we think the

OGs from back in the day would have behaved this

way. I always say yes.
I just think

they just didn't have the medium to do it. They were not.

Because we watching OGs who was running around

back then do the same shit today. I'm with you.

Because now they got the medium because now they're trying to be stars on the internet.

They were not.

Yeah.

You had to answer the niggas back in the day.

But it's different.

I mean, it is what it is.

Bam, I've seen this fed sweep in LA.

I'm a civilian.

What the hell do I got to say in this shit?

Hey, I don't care about it.

I see it.

Hey, some of it is juicy.

So I read it.

I'm a civilian.

None of this shit is angry.

I don a civilian. What the hell do I got to say in this shit? Hey, I don't care about it.
I see it. Some of it is juicy, so I read it.
I'm a civilian. None of this shit is any of my business.
It don't affect my world at all. I don't, I'm not up in arms about it like everybody else is.
Not to serious us out, but us as black men, it's still horrible. Because they programming our kids to do that dumb shit.
Exactly. That's's about that.
Wait, who's programming our kids to do what?

The motherfuckers that the kids are seeing on Vlad or Adam or whatever.

They want to do that shit.

My oldest don't look up to none of that.

I know, yo.

He's an old man. My oldest don't look up to none of that.

I can't speak for what the kids is on.

But be the male influence and male role model that you would like to see.

There you go. And my kids don't look up to none of that shit.
I don't get it. It's not my business.
I'm not downplaying nothing. I'm not slighting nothing.
Everybody's path is they own path. But that ain't for me.
At all. And this ain't for them.
True. There you go.
Yeah, and this ain't for them. I've never been happier to be called a lame or square and all that other shit.
I love it. Now, some of that shit I do like.
Hey. Hold up now.
I'm going to be honest. I don't want to lie.
Stop playing, man. This is what you're going to do now.
You're going to let him do it. I'm not playing.
Let him do it. He's going to do it.
Some of that shit I like. Like what? Like what? Listen, it's like, hey, my Islamic brothers.
Sometimes the people that come from different belief systems. Yo, can y'all stop doing that thing where y'all just pussy so I can't.
No. I was y'all.
I know he said clip. No, he said clip.
Oh, I'm sorry. To not start.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. My problem.
Like when you talk to people from even English, Jewish, you talk to people that's just from wherever they're from. They might say some shit and you're like, hey, I agree with some of that.
And then they get to a point and it's like, oh, okay. I got to take a step back.

Even it's like,

the clips of Big U taxing the movies

that come through the town,

I do agree with that a little bit.

Cool.

I know that it's against the law.

And that's where it stops right there.

I agree with some of that thinking.

It's again, back to street taxing.

But if you know it's against the law, don't hold the camera up to your face, say it, confirm that this is happening, and then upload it. He did that? Yes! Okay, then.
That's what I'm talking about. I'm not, the crime is going to be the crime.
The criminal is always going to be there. The criminal has been there since the beginning of the time.
I mean, some of the stuff, of the stuff... If a nigga beat you out of 1.5 million with Tricky Dice and you have a connect...
Oh, that story was crazy, too. Yo, some of this shit is a juicy story.
And you have a connect to get it back. Loaded Dice, Adrian Broner, and I'm bringing the rappers and whoever.
I'm bringing them through. I'm bringing them through.
Yo, hey, You know what it tells me? There's a luxury in being a civilian. It's a privilege in being a civilian.
Because some of this shit is so off your radar that when you read it, it's like really off your radar. But we know it because we come from this shit.
We know that somebody is setting up the spot for all the celebrities to come to them. We got the loaded dice and money on the wood and uh-uh-uh.
Shit, I was just watching a poker movie about this. I just picked some random movie on Apple.
That's my shit now. I'm just watching old movies.
But in the poker movie, whoever house that was that they went to for the poker game got it robbed. Remember the fight night show?

Oh, yeah.

That was that.

Yeah, that was that.

We're going to set up

the big game.

We're going to have

all the money in town

coming up.

We're going to get it robbed

with Kevin Hart.

Kevin Hart in them.

I didn't see it.

I didn't see that movie.

I didn't see it.

It was a series.

It was a show.

It was good.

But that's the thing.

Yo, we know.

That's why we sit here

and make the jokes.

Well, not jokes,

but All-Star Weekend,

BET Weekend.

Yo, y'all be careful out there. Not only because they're just running down robbing you, but they'll set you up.
That's what they're doing. Yes.
I'm going to protect you and then set you up in the back end. Yeah.
Or I'm going to put a chick on you. Chick is the easy way to get them.
I'm going to put a chick on you. Your rest in peace take off, but like the dice game out of town.
Yeah, I'm good. I'm in the hotel, my nigga.
But see, and that's the bravado of the rapper. Because now if you stay in the hotel the whole time, you pussy.
No, no, no. Or you just look that ass.
No, I'm pussy. I'm just not into some of these things.
My name Pussy. My name Vagina.
Like the point that bothered me most about that take off shit is he wasn't playing. Yeah.
He wasn't playing. I'm in the cut.
Yeah, man. That shit is just disheartening.
Rest in peace. Rest in peace to him and anybody else we lost.
But this shit is disheartening. And it's tough to read.
And again, just more consumption of shit that's like, ugh. I just, again, we'll be lying or fools if we sat up here and say y'all want all the crime to stop.
It's not going to stop. I don't want all the crime to stop.
But if you're going to do crime, just do this shit smart. Are you crazy? When I read dumb criminals, I just be like, what? Yo, what's wrong? I don't want y'all to stop stealing them expensive-ass mattresses.
They don't steal them. I don't want y'all to stop stealing some expensive shit

that's exclusive

that I can't get anymore

I need you

Like nigga

some shit needed

nigga

go inside

I don't give a fuck

you take all the risk

meet me behind somewhere

in the alley

on

with the cobblestones

on the floor

you know

cause niggas

and yeah

I ain't gonna lie

to niggas

be getting to it

nigga

them alley niggas

them alley sellers

I heard that

it works

that's exactly

what my man told me

I don't know

a TV like this nigga

I'm not going to do it. I ain't gonna lie Them niggas be getting to it Nigga them alley niggas Them alley sellers I heard that It works That's exactly what my man told me I don't know A TV like this nigga Off the truck You got it Can you carry it yourself? Listen Once my mom said Hey Them people catch you up You're done Nothing I can do Stop thinking about crime And Once I realized That they had a charge For anything my brain could think of, it was like, all right, y'all went.
And the other one for me was once I realized you could just be over there with them, you ain't even got to be doing it and get wrapped up in shit, got it. That's it.
How old were you when you just saw your life on the wrong track, like headed toward a life of crime now?

Never.

What the fuck you talking about?

I was stealing at a young age. Never.

I was getting a lot of trouble.

You're still now as an adult.

I don't.

What the fuck you talking about?

I do.

You still getting your Snickers at the gas station and shit?

No, no, no.

I was still now.

I should try.

No, you shouldn't.

If I read that you got picked up for a penny debt,

don't come to work. Are y'all judging me? Yes.
Yes me yes that's bad because y'all don't know what could have happened I'll loan you some money my nigga good luck that's why I fuck with you yeah you got some money now I'm on y'all not touching this yellow beasy stuff y'all done with that too I don't really know all the details behind it yeah they picked him Yeah. We can move all the time.
This is not a crime show.

Yeah, it's not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The same niggas they wanted you to shoot at.

The crime niggas on top of Apple Podcasts.

Hey, you niggas over there.

Them niggas is killing it over there.

Them crime shows.

What?

That's that shit.

Oh, my God.

That shit show you how fucked up America's thinking is.

Yeah.

Niggas is obsessed with this shit.

Yeah. Actually, speaking of obsessed with this shit.
Yeah.

Actually, speaking of crime shows,

but not speaking of crime shows,

got a guest today.

Special guest.

Not that he's from a crime show,

but I feel like I've seen crime shows.

Didn't they make the crime show after him?

Nigga, I feel like the guest is some crime shit.

There's no, it's a scam somewhere. It could be, it could be.
We have a very special guest. I'm very excited because I've seen this guy on a lot of other places, but I don't feel like he's ever gotten like the black media tests.
He can't, we can't fuck with us. He can't fuck with us.
He can't fuck with us though. Yeah, we got him.
I think so too. For sure.
For sure. He should be here soon.
He should be here soon. Is there anything that we have to get off of our minds, bodies, and souls before our guest arrives? Yo, we're not going to talk about this 5 a.m.
in Toronto. Ref this allegedly running around because we direct out.
I just don't believe it. That's why.
With AI today, I got a homie who hit me up at troll, hit me up ahead of time and said, yo, I'm about to troll these niggas. I said, what you about to do? He said, you know how there was always rumors of 50 writing the game's entire documentary album? I'm like, yeah.
I'm going to use AI to make reference tracks for the entire documentary album. And he did it.
And if you would listen to it and not know any better, you'd be like, oh shit. It just confirmed the rumor.
That's why today, I don't believe none of this shit no more. Okay.
So the dude made all reference tracks using 50s voice. Yeah.
You want to hear him? No. You know I got him.
But yeah, he made all reference tracks of the documentary using 50s voice. The entire album, top to bottom.

Trickery. This trickery.

That's just where we are. Yo.
Okay, well

on the internet, for the people that are

unaware, there are

references from

allegedly Drake timestamp

records. Five, five, eight, and three.

Five, eight, and three, which is the best one, in my opinion.

No. I'm not wrong.

My man said it to me last night, and I will say this.

I don't know if it's fake or real,

but in regards to all the Drake

Thank you. Which is the best one, in my opinion.
No. I'm not wrong.
My man said it to me last night, and I will say this.

I don't know if it's fake or real, but in regards to all the Drake ghostwriting songs,

I will say that he made them a lot more swaggier than most ghostwriting situations have worked out.

All the other big ghostwriting people that we know about, the Dre's, the Puffs, whoever, whoever,

the reference track was better.

Yeah. Drake's versions be way better than the reference track.
Even if it is fake, if it is real, I don't really care. But any of the reference tracks that we've heard from Drake shit, he added a lot of swag to them.
I have to give him that. If it's real, I'm going to care.
I'm just, I don't believe it's real. I don't believe it's real at all.
Yeah. Not with the timestamp shit.
No. Even though I do feel like he ain't rapped like that and probably won't be rapping like that anytime soon, I still need more than that ref to believe that that's.
I need more than a little 20. The guy on that ref sound like somebody doing a spoof or bad version of hearing Drake rap like that.
No, that guy exists. I'm not saying he don't.
I mean, it's not being other records from dude. I just don't know if this is real.
I don't believe that that guy has this ref from however many years ago and sent it to Drake, and Drake patterned after that. I don't believe that.
I just don't believe for that to happen, especially with everything that has been going on with Drake for ghost fighting rumors from years ago that this would have made its way out before now. I mean, there's been rumblings on it, but I just don't believe this one.
I ain't rolling. Me neither.
I'm looking different. I gotta get more evidence.
It could be true, but I would have to hear more. And wouldn't it be some more fire from that dude? Nothing.
He's got other. My nigga, if you can write that.
He's got other records because my man sent me. Smokers? No, but you could hear the rhyme style.
It's like, oh shit. I mean, there is some believability in there.
Gotcha. But I got to hear more than a Twitter leaked reference.
Gotcha. I need to see a video of him writing and recording a reference track with somebody who died maybe a year or so after that happened in the video and both of them saying the date.
Like, I need, like, the evidence gotta be you can't even dispute it. I'm gonna still listen to the record regardless too.
Exactly. Me too, but last time I said this is when the Quentin Miller five-pack randomly popped up out of nowhere of him doing all your favorite Drake songs from that album.
But it is. I need more.
Pause. I'm not rolling with that.
Not in the slightest. All right.
All right. We rolling.
I'm rolling. I'm with you.
I need more, too, to say that a time stamp is not a time stamp.

Nope.

You ain't going.

Hey, I may not have been all the way OVO'd out last year,

but whoever this new nigga is, you can't get me against them.

Whoever the fuck he is.

I do that on my own. No, sir.

You, who the fuck are you, nigga?

Hell no.

Stupid, yeah. Anyway, all right, what else is important up here? What's up with that Eminem engineer stealing files? Oh, one of the Strange Brothers got, they found, someone leaked a bunch of Eminem records, and I think it was Frederick, a producer, put up some, hey, I'm trying to listen to these songs or whatever.
And it traced back to one of the Strange Brothers was selling off shit from the hard drive, from the cut. And they ran down on him.
They found all types of sessions as an engineer would have, video, VHS, and all that shit. But apparently, allegedly, he was selling the shit to bootleggers.
Yo, it's a whole black market for that. It exists.
I've seen it. It's, you pay them through, they do group buys where they'll set the price dumb high and everybody pitching, you know, they'll put a little something out to just show you I do have these songs that is real.
It's hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line and it'll be a group of people, all right, we whatever whatever and they'll sell the records. That's crazy.
And there's also Discovery. How much money you made from that? I haven't.
I was tempted but loyalty because I was very tempted. I was like I might get this Glass House album off but I wouldn't do it.
I was tempted. I ain't gonna lie to y'all.
I've never been tempted. Shit.
not worth it. I was joking on Twitter and I was like, yo, 250K, I'll do it.
They was like, yo, if somebody hit me, if you're serious, we can get in a group buy and get about 400. I was like, I think it's odd because the number that they said was $50,000.
That don't really seem like enough. I've seen one track on there go for six figures.
Because again, it pool of people Putting the money together And then it's just Bitcoin purchase And shit like that Starving engineer Yeah Yeah that's crazy That's crazy Baby needs shoes With all the credits With all the credits He's got He can make more than. Yo, first of all, yo, you said what? You got 14 bricks in that bag right there? Yeah.
Mom's spaghetti. My baby ain't got no spaghetti, nigga.
Let this shit go. Fuck you, yo.
I ain't seen that. No, no, no.
They're stealing tracks, man. J.R.
was just telling me he was at Jewel's house. He said that somebody stole like 100 songs on his whole album and shit like that before.
That shit's fucked up. That's fucked up.
You can break it to your studio and just rate it and take everything. It don't even be that.
Yo, niggas, I have right now, I have about I think 170 right now unreleased Chris Brown records. Right? The way they get the songs.
How you got it, nigga? I'm going to tell you. Free, what the? I'm going to tell you.
For a nigga that's not a part of crime, you do a lot of crime shit. I don't do shit.
Why you having it in your phone? The crime's all in his lap. Somebody sent them to me.
Yo. I didn't go get them, but I'm going to tell you how, and that's not with him, but I know certain instances where people just get music like that.
Yo, you have a group of folks over, you playing music. You dip off, you chilling or something.
Somebody walk right up to your laptop, pop a USB in and drag it. You don't know nothing.
Gone.

This has happened a

bunch of times.

You know how fast it is now with

digital files? I'm not a criminal.

You're a criminal. I am not a criminal.

To y'all people that do that, hit

me so I can tell you how much you're

going to get for some of these artists y'all stealing.

They sitting here just trying to have a cool talk. I'll get you to save some time.
What you mean? I got this new. I got this new such and such.
Nigga, you could have put that back in the computer. Nobody wants that shit.
Let's make sure that you're stealing the music of a desirable act. You spent $17.99 on that flash drive.
Don't nobody want that bullshit. You should have bought some motherfucking five guys with that money.
Yeah, you come in the barbershop trying to sell the wrong Ali Vegas, nigga. Hey, yo, come on, Joe.

No, that's my man.

Shout out to Ali Vegas.

I'm just saying, in 2025,

you trying to... Nah, nah, nah, you're right.

You got that around.

You trying to sell some Joe Budden?

Hold up now, though.

Hold up.

Hold up now.

Hold up.

Don't play too much now.

I got a nice little 30.

I might go sell some Joe Budden.

I got a nice unreleased

36-pack Joe Budden.

Oh, my Lord.

Oh, for real?

Swear to God.

Freeze.

How much y'all think

y'all can sell an Eminem track

for today in Newark?

You wouldn't sell it in Newark,

but it ain't gonna go for much

if you were trying to sell it

on the street.

I'm gonna keep it a buck.

Okay.

You walk in,

I walk...

I'm not trying to be funny.

No, I walk in

with an Eminem track.

No, that's... Shout out to...
Shout out to... That's the barbershop.
That's a barbershop in the hood. You walk in there with an M&M track and you're getting Jazzy Jeff'd.
But if you go to Supercuts. Let me ask you something.
Do you think that you're going to go to a barbershop that's in the hood for life? Yes. You just like the ambiance, the environment? I love the barbershop.
Oh, got it.

I love the barbershop.

Sorry.

You know shit happened at the barbershop, right?

Yeah.

All right, think about it again.

Let me re-ask.

Do you think that you're going to go to a barbershop that's in the hood for life?

Who are you talking to?

Well, you didn't answer, but Freeze answered, so I'm asking Freeze.

My barber not in the hood.

So I'm talking to Freeze.

Your barber's in Chinatown somewhere.

The Philippines. Ishmael, welcome.
His barber on top of the restaurant. On top of the Chinatown.
You gotta go up the steps. Yeah.
His barber's where the egg rolls and shit is at. Stop, you can't say that.
I think this is racist. No, Freeze, do you think you're going to go for your whole life?

No, not my whole life.

Freeze likes that.

But I do love the bullshit.

Freeze is around an area in his mind where he can hear criminal shit without being a criminal.

That's just bad.

That's anywhere.

Nigga, I'm always in the hood, though.

I don't be outside on the block, but I'm always in the hood.

The Muslim brothers you be running with, I'm learning all y'all niggas.

I learned about you, Freeze.

You be doing a lot of bullshit to say.

I do bullshit?

Yeah.

Give me an example, please.

You're just around bullshit.

Okay.

Having stolen music is bullshit.

I did not steal any music, Flip.

We don't have anything else in music.

No, no, no.

I don't do none of that shit no more.

Last album I leaked, no more.

Okay, I think it's a good time for our special guest. Let's get it, man.
I think it's a good time. Let's go! Let's go! Let me play with him.
All right, mic check, mic check. We have a very, very, very special guest.
Let me put my headphones on. Facts.
Manees. A guy that is pretty booked and busy.
Yes, he is. Very difficult to get a hold of this man but somehow he found the time appreciate that he found the time and the love in his heart to come bless us ladies and gentlemen Oldsboro in the building thank you Joe Budden thank you gentlemen now Olds Perlman in the building.
Olds Perlman in the building. Thank you, Joe Budden.
Thank you, gentlemen. Now, Olds, what is your occupation when you have to write it down? That is a good question.
Magician. A liar.
A liar. No.
I mean, it's a mentalist on paper. You ask my wife, I'm just mental.
But here's what everybody knows what a magician is, right? Everybody knows in their mind, you think a magician, you think card tricks, you might think David Blaine, David Copperfield. You started with the card tricks.
I love card tricks. I love card tricks.
Trust me, I love card tricks. That was a start.
The evolution is now I can do the tricks, but I don't need any props. It's just in your mind.
So it's magic of the mind. It's kind of like the next level.
You've seen a lot of magicians. You haven't seen me.
So it's kind of where I no longer need props. I could, you could drop me off in front of 5,000 people.
It's just me. The show is me.
I don't need bunnies. I don't need boxes.
No sleight of hand on that type of stuff? I could still do it. Don't get me wrong, but it's not what I do anymore.
Got it. Got you.
Okay. You upgraded.
That's child's play. Upgraded.
Exactly. Okay.
You have a publicist. I have, theoretically, I guess so.
Because this is my thing. How do you figure out that you can do this? Right.
How did you learn that you have this gift? Because magician, I think three card money in Vegas vegas yep i think somebody with the rabbit in

the hat i think the prestige and all these other movies that's a good movie right there that's a

excellent callback right there one of the best movies ever to prestige uh but when i see you

like i learned about you on hard knocks nice. Nice.
Jets fan? No.

Giants, but I watched it.

Everyone's like,

why didn't you tell us what happened to Aaron Rodgers

if you're that good?

Same thing happened to him.

You should see how much hate I got.

For the Jets one?

Oh, I mean, when Rodgers went down in the first drive

and everyone was like,

oh, it's the mentalist.

What the hell?

Yeah.

Yeah, no.

But that looks real.

The reactions look real.

Oh, it's all real.

I'm going saying that. I'm not saying that.
That's what I thought. All good.
It all comes from the light.

I was like, he's a witch.

Yeah, I feel like.

Straight up.

But even at witches, witches don't necessarily got to be bad.

I'm talking about the ones that they would have had out there in the 1600s.

This is some type of intuitive gift that he has.

And I'm assuming he's had it since young.

Yeah, I got lucky on my timelines.

1600s.

I wouldn't be here with you. I would have been first show and burned at the stake.

Yep.

So it's a gift, but I would describe it as, you know, you have a gift for music, right?

Yes.

And so certain people have that, some people don't.

They could train their whole life.

It's either in you, whether you said God gave it to you or came in you somehow, but you can get better at it.

So I think anyone could do what I'm doing in a way. They could learn some of the mentalism stuff, but will they get good enough at it to do it at this level? I mean, that's probably a no.
Otherwise there'd be more people, but it's kind of a trained talent. It's an innate talent that you could train.
It's kind of like sports. You think everybody, Aaron Rodgers, think that's all talent? No, that's hard work.
That's like decades and decades of working your butt off, outworking the person person next to you I outwork my competition at what I do that's a fact at what age did you first realize hey I got something yeah I feel like dad was beating the bricks out of you and you needed to start knowing what was on dad's mind before he got home I see the belt shake a little I'm like that belt's about to come on and that's one with a buckle, too. That's no good, no good.
If my dad hears this, you are not beating me. Not beating me.
A couple of good slaps. I think back in the day, a couple of good slaps set you straight.
Put the fear of God in me. Things have changed now.
Oh, my Lord. So from when you were, let's just say, 10, 12 years old.
So I have really good intuition. I'll tell you a really unusual story that I can't explain, but my mom, I have twin sisters that are older than me, fraternal.
And then when I was a kid, this is a real weird story. I always kept having to make believe, like an imaginary friend, I said, I have a twin, I have a twin, because I was so obsessed with them having twins.
And then when I was 12, my mom told me, you did have a twin who died at birth. And it's a true story.
She never told me, they know how to tell me that I was a twin also. And I was born in Israel.
It was during a war in Lebanon and it was kind of all the doctors were in a different location. It was, you know, at birth, the twin died.
And it was this weird thing where I'm like, I always knew that. And it freaked me out.
And until she told me it never clicked. And so I always had very good intuition.
I'm not psychic. I don't believe that I'm psychic.

It's not supernatural.

But there's intuitive things that I don't care where you are spiritually.

You've had experiences where you're like, how did I know that?

Everyone knows that.

But we always say, nah, that wasn't real.

But if you can tap into that, there's instinct.

So a lot of the time when I'm on TV and you see things and people go, it's fake.

I love when haters go, it's fake in comments.

That's the best compliment you can give me.

Like, have you seen the Joe Burrow clip?

Yes.

Joe Burrow clip is probably most popular.

Have you seen that one?

Should I tell you real quick?

Sure.

I'm at the Bengals facility.

I go in there with ESPN.

Shout out to my man, Adam Schefter.

And we go in there.

They tell us right off the bat, Joe Burrow is not going to be involved.

He's shy.

He's a good dude, but he's shy.

It's not his fault.

And he goes, he doesn't really want to be involved.

And they go, don't even call on him.

Nothing.

I went to the next episode. They tell us right off the bat, Joe Burrow's not going to be involved.
He's shy. He's a good dude, but he's shy.
It's not his fault. And he goes, he doesn't really want to be involved.
And they go, don't even call on him. Nothing.
I go in there. Let me do what I do.
I get in there and I warm them up. I start freaking out everybody on the team.
He's a team leader. So I get them fired up.
Should we get Joe in here? They go, yeah, yeah. And Joe stands up.
I have not spoken a word to Joe on the lives of my kids and my wife. And Adam Schefter went on air and told everybody.
Pat McAfee's like, did you ever talk to him before? Dude, he didn't talk. They didn't even say he could use him in the show.
I've never talked to this man a word in my life before I tell him to stand up. And I say, look around this room.
All my eligible receivers stand up. Tight ends, wide receivers.
Everyone stand up, you know, full depth chart. I say, look at the room.
Look at me. I write down on huge.
And I show camera, throw the ball anywhere you want. Bam.
First person he throws to nailed it. Everyone's like, you know, did he get lucky? I go, double or nothing.
Same thing. Look at it.
Throws it to another guy. Nailed it.
Third time, he fakes to Jamar. So Jamar, and then he throws to another guy.
Boom. Exactly the play I call.
He goes nuts. And you see like Joe Burrow who doesn't react like watch the video later so when you ask me that is something that i waited two years to do that i was figuring out how i would do it what he would do what would happen how do you you know when you walk in a maze what makes you turn left what makes you turn right i know if you're going to turn right i know if you were about to turn left we're going to turn right and then decide to go left at the end.
I was in his head more than he was. How has this gift helped you with exes of yours? We got to ask them right now.
How has it helped you in your romantic? It sounds like it would be a hindrance, really. Not enough, let me tell you.
Married 12 years, my powers are only for good for good now so yeah unfortunately uh these skills are wasted you know what i was in college in college it didn't help me it helped all my friends because i was the ultimate wingman they're like let's get you over here yeah yeah girls come on over i line them up then of the way. My boys are like, yo, that's my guy right there.
And then they go in for the kill. It's better than your thumb.
That's his way of saying it. I used to be a pretty good wingman myself.
He's a great wingman. Back in my day.
At first, they would be nice about it. Like, I'll buy you a beer.
Then, like, dude, just come do tricks for these girls. I'm like, what is this? So're you're aware who your uh competitors are sure but it's really one of those games where there's not much competition in this because there's so few of us and there's so much demand and the more people do this like it's bringing awareness if you were to talk to people two three years ago i think a lot of people in this country would be like what's a mentalist and now because of all the sports clips and all these things it's hit like that level of you're hearing about it more you know it and it's kind of defined a genre you know that's kind of where i'm at with it right because if i'm a competitor of yours yep still because it's so so niche yeah my success kind of relies somewhat on how well you do rising tides lift all ships like i got a lot of buddies who were kind of me five, ten years ago, and they're getting a lot of these things because people hear about them.
They call me. They can't afford me.
They're like, let's take that. I can only be one place at a time.
Something fell. I did that with my mind.
Sorry. Don't start shaking up Corey, man.
Flip might need a change your underwear right now. I don't know if you saw it.
Flip's the one who said it was devil magic and he just shit his pants. He said that.
I ain't say nothing, man. I'm just listening.
You thought it, though. Flip is afraid to talk right now.
He's sitting here. He's sitting still.
This is the most still I've ever seen him. He's got a bottle of holy water in his pants ready.
I'm just trying to figure out where it comes. You know, I'm trying to be a mentalist in my own way.
Trying to see his tricks, right? No, you are. You are in your own way.
Different kind of mentalist. Watch yourselves.
Right in front of company. So, back to you and your competitors.
Yep. I guess if you all don't succeed as a collective where does that leave the genre no i don't know that's a great question listen i'm just trying to always innovate so i keep getting opportunities and i keep trying to do new things you're kicking ass yeah thank you appreciate it and just kind of do new things that excite me because it's kind of one of those things where, again, great parallel to music.
I love comedians. I love musicians, just things that excite me.
And I love watching people who, they try and do something where it's not necessarily for other people. You do something that makes you excited.
The best songs are always ones you didn't try to make a hit. You just did something that was real and authentic and then people connect with it.
That's what I keep doing where I like to do things where if I'm excited about what I'm doing in the room, other people love it. Like the football, what's the number one thing I would want to do? Bam.
You're with the quarterback. Tell me who he's going to throw the ball to, right? That's a billion dollar question.
So that's what I did. I said, how could I pull that off? And that's the other thing.
Did you go through the phase where it's like, okay, before you realized how valuable this thing was, did you go through the phase where, hey, how can I use my gift to just make money?

That's what I'm doing now still.

Well, you're killing now.

Yeah, listen.

I'm talking about when you were trying to guess lotto numbers.

Oh, I was hustling since I was 13 years old.

So I started doing this when I was 13.

At 14, I walked half a mile from my house in Farmington Hills, Michigan,

got a restaurant job where I was this little four-foot-nothing guy doing card tricks. The people are like, what do you want from me right now? And that was the school of hard knocks for me.
That's literally how I learned to approach people, win people over and start kind of getting inside their head. Do you play the lottery? So I can't win the lottery.
True story. Because what I do has nothing to do with, um, with, uh, random, uh, does that make sense? No,.
Got it. A psychic could tell you they could know the future.
Uh-huh. So, like, for example, I'm trying to predict the final four.
Yesterday I was on CBS. If you didn't see it with Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, great clip.
I don't know if this is going to air. And we sealed right there.
It's not my bracket. I told them straight up, I'm not going to get a bracket right.
That's impossible. Yeah.
Uh-huh. But to get the final four is not actually as hard as you think.
To get the final four is about in i think it's 12 000 because you're probably gonna get a sleeper there's gonna be a cinderella no but think about it's four out of 64 it's not that tough and most years most years it's one or two one seeds right so like statistically i'm telling you it's not crazy but to get the elite eight guess who wins and get the final four is one out 25 million at least wow so i don't know that i'm gonna get it right i'll tell you right here right now everyone's like are you gonna bet on it hell yeah i'm betting on it i guess kenny smith's pin code i said i'm betting on with your money kenny so uh that's something where it's not a trick that's where i'm hoping i get it right and i might get one or two wrong but like it's kind of like i've guessed superbowls i've gotten four out of five last five years but i don't i didn't. It's not psychic.
I don't know the lottery. That's still pretty good numbers.
But if you guys were picking the lottery numbers, if you were picking lottery numbers instead of a machine, I bet I could get it. Damn.
Because you got you. Because I know how people think.
Got you. Got you.
Got you. I have a question.
Your competitors, right? Do you guys help each other or look out for one another? Is it like that or is it more competition-based?

I mean, there's a couple people in the biz that are,

there's so few of us that are a little more,

how would I describe it, competitive in that sense.

Yeah.

But quite frankly, like I have people,

it's probably the same way as if you think of comedians

who kind of run jokes by each other to punch it up.

You know how they do that?

Like, give me another tag, do this.

Features on songs, anything like that. I have other people that are really smart thinkers where we bounce ideas off each other and i just go what do you think of this how we do this and we just kind of i don't ideate like when i'm doing a lot of stuff for tv i gotta come up with new things and i have people i think about it with i like to run a lot i go running and i come up with stuff i was gonna ask or you said that the the joe burrow thing took you two years to come up.
To figure out how I was going to do it. Yeah.
So it wasn't necessarily like a spare of the moment random thing. It was something that you planned out.
Aren't all the best things in life? Yeah. I mean, like, I mean, it looks, that's kind of like the, you know, when you see those divers do eight flips and land perfectly, no splash, it looks so easy.
You go do that, belly flop. So it looked easy.
It looked easy. It looked like it was spur of the moment.
It is spur of the moment as far as they're concerned. But for me, there were hundreds of hours put into the preparation.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Into how that would play out.
Every possible situation in that room I kind of accounted for. Gotcha.
What about like Vegas or card games or dice games or anything like that where the odds are much lower?

Right.

Do you participate or are you good at it?

You know what?

If you go in there, you cheat, they kick you out, and then you're blacklisted.

So I've heard from other people.

No, I'm kidding.

I'm kidding.

I need you for Baccarat.

He's like, let's go right now.

You know what?

Let's try something fun.

We'll do a little performance later. But this is what I want Flip to do because he's freaked out at me.

I'm glad that you know he's freaked out at you.

I could go get a deck of cards.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to do that. I'm not doing that again.
But picture this in your hands. Pretend you're holding a deck of cards, right? And do some fancy moves.
For the listeners, pretend to do fancy moves. Pretend you're shuffling them.
See some acting Flip. I don't even know what he's doing right there.
That looked a little suspect. He's making pizza dough.
Yeah, he's got the artificial intelligence hands. This is what we're making interesting.
Imagine that, you know what? You just drop a few on the ground. A few just dropped.
And you're making a little mess. It doesn't matter.
Don't mess up the mic. And you dropped a few more.
And then we look down at the deck, all these cards, and we count them. And I count the deck and you know how many cards

are in a deck?

52.

52, yes.

But when I count,

cheater.

He's only got 51

because Flip put one

in his pocket, right?

You know what I'm saying?

He's got one in his pocket.

Now hold up, hold up.

I want you, watch.

Don't tell me that card

that's in your pocket.

You're imagining right now.

Think in your mind,

red, black.

Don't say anything.

Red, black.

Think hearts, diamonds, club spades. Hearts, diamonds, club spades.
If you have a card in your pocket, I'm punching you in your pocket. You're imagining right now, think in your mind, red, black.
Don't say anything. Red, black.
Think hearts, diamonds, club spades. Hearts, diamonds, club spades.
If you have a card in your pocket, I'm punching you in your face. It's invisible.
It's invisible. I'm punching you dead in your face.
I swear to God I am. I want to see that.
I want to see that. You better not have a card in your pocket.
Chill out, man. I'm going to clunk you with this coffee.
You'll be honest.

If I guess it's right, look this way.

Ace, two, three, four, five.

Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, jack, queen, king.

Ace, two, three, four, five.

Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, jack, queen, king.

You imagined one card.

You took it out.

You put it in your pocket.

You didn't really put it in your pocket, but you pretended to.

That's what I told you to do. Black card, spades.
It was a king of spades, wasn't it? You can't hear him right now, but he's freaking out. It was a king of spades.
Yeah, it was. It was a king of spades.
Yes, it was a king of spades. Don't hold the reaction in right now.
I feel like I'm selling you. Are you serious? You said that actually was thinking king of spades? What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Because that was a card he gave me, man.
Why'd you take that? I didn't give it to you. That was a card I picked.
That was a card he picked? From earlier? It was a King of Spades. King of Spades? What did he put in his pocket? Oh, my God.
Yo. He did a trick to me.
What you mean? He did that. Yo, Ian gave you some money outside.
Yeah, this was set up. It was a King of Spades.
It was. Swear to God.
Ice. Yes.
Don't let him beat the whole room. It's impossible.
Don't start with me. Let's say he's imagining a card.
Okay. We got an empty chair right there.
Do you see it? The listener can't see, but we got Park right here, right? But right there's an empty chair, and you get to fill in that chair. Okay?

You're going to do it in your mind.

I was going to take your phone out and get a photo.

But no, no.

I don't even want it.

I want it in your head.

You could, somebody's sitting right there.

And you know what you're doing?

You're on the edge of your seat.

You've got questions lined up.

And I make this exciting.

Because normally I would think of somebody alive.

But dead or alive.

Man, woman, whatever.

Somebody that you have not, hold on.

If you look over there i don't put

you in the spot do you know what question you would ask this person you're not even sure yet

i'm not even sure the question yet okay not even sure the person all right hold on

i think i gotta be under pressure you think you know his person yeah i think don't say don't say

oh shit come on he put my books here's what i do here's what i do i got a pad of paper and a marker don't say the name that you think it is because you know we just met what when i walked in the door how many letters are in this person's first name that you think he picked that i think that you think he picked just tell me the number of letter oh don't say see i just watch his face no no i don't want you to say i could tell just by looking right there at Ice's face that he was wrong. It's not six letters, is it? No, it's not six letters.
Yeah, it's not six. You got it wrong.
Good try, though. Okay.
Put there on me. Stick to your day job.
No. He just got back to that.
The listener, who, you know, the person in the comments is make stage scripted did before i walked in this room had we ever spoken a word in our life no is there any did i tell you who you would have to pick that i some way of say you gotta go come on do this i'll slip you a hundred nothing right nothing he could have thought of anybody down freeze all right he gonna it wrong. We got this.
Look how he's got his arms locked around.

Yeah, no body language.

No, the body language is clear.

You've got hands crossed and legs crossed.

That's 100% a dude vibe.

It's a guy.

I know you picked a guy.

If it was a woman, you've got to spread him out a little more.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

You can't be that tight.

The pelvic floor crossed.

You can't be that tight.

You've got to give him room to breathe.

You can't be that tight.

No, that's a guy.

Tighten the pelvic, buddy.

That's a guy vibe with the pelvis. Hey, loosen in your hips.
All right. All right.
When you said six to him, you know what I saw? It's too much. Name's shorter.
Ice, close your eyes. Mm-hmm.
Yo, don't close your eyes when you do tell yourself. No, no.
I want to show everybody in the room. I don't want to show you.
Are your eyes closed? Come with me. Come with me.
My eyes are closed. Folks, don't say this out loud.
Don't say this out loud. Everyone in the room get a peek.
If you guys saw it, say yeah. It better not be.
No. No way.
I will fight this shit out of free. So everybody knows.
As everyone, all of you say yeah, if you just saw what I wrote down. I can't change my mind.
Ice, ice, open your eyes.

Someone sitting right in that chair is only in your brain.

You're seeing him right there in that chair.

Anyone, anyone has said, who's sitting in that chair?

Tell us.

I don't want to say it, yo.

Click that.

Hey, yo.

Chris Brown.

Chris Brown.

Chris Brown.

That was an easy one. That's an easy one.
I'm not blown away by that. Get the fuck out of here.
Nah, nah. You sitting there thinking about the rest.
Sensational. Hey, yo, dog.
Yo, why the fuck you at work thinking about Chris Brown? Yo. No, no, no.
He said somebody that I would love to have on the podcast. Yeah, but.
Interview. You know what? Throw a curveball over the planet.
I thought it was Nipsey. God damn.
That's why I said I thought it was it was Nipsey. I was the...
Yo. Who? I thought it was Jesus.
I was saying either him, I was Allen Iverson or Chris Byrne. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Oh my God. Yo, see, good thing I don't have this gift, boy.
You niggas would be in trouble. Yo, I don't have your ass.
Look at Park's all nervous over there now. Look at this guy.
I'm not nervous. That's crazy.
I'm not nervous. I'm not going to...
Yo, hold on. What's up with you? nervous.
I ain't spoke to dude. That was an easy one.
I don't think it was that hard either. If he picked mine.
Well you was wrong. Parks.
How much history you got with Joe? How long you known Joe? Since what? 07 or 08? Roll us quite. So, you know, you lose your bank card.
Uh-huh. They call you up and they go, Parks, how do we know you're really you and not the guy who stole the card? Okay.
So they say, what's your mom's maiden name? But hear me out. Mom's maiden name, they don't say that anymore because my mom's on Facebook.
You want to know who my mom is? She likes every photo. She comments.
This is my number one fan. Sure.
So that's not a good question. What I like to ask people is ask me a question that nobody would know.
Even your boy from 17 years, he's not going to know this. True.
Okay. So when I walked in this room, full transparency, I walked up to parks.
I said, come up with the question. Don't say it to anybody.
Don't write this question down. Don't nothing.
Think of a question that none of us would know. Yeah.
There is no way in the world I could know what that question is. Could I? No.
Not a chance. No one in this room would know what that question is.
Forget the answer. Forget the answer.
More answer. That's a big part.
I'm talking about even what question you're going to ask. It's not Mother's Maiden name, is it? No.
Okay. Of course not.
If you ask the question out loud, you put it out in the universe, could any of us know the answer?

No.

Okay.

What's the question?

When we were teenagers, a couple of my friends, when we'd get real fucked up, would say a phrase to each other.

Okay, okay.

No more.

Don't say anything more.

Imagine you're in front of a keyboard.

But with computer, different than thumbs is texting, put your hands on a keyboard right now in front of you. You got to uncross your legs.
See, I feel like now you're cheating. I want you to imagine that you type the answer.
You don't have to actually move your fingers. You just got to think about it.
Okay. All right, look what he did.
I saw it. See, why did I position him like that? I like how Flip is still shook up from before.
You see this? He's like, how did you know he's the king of spades? You tapped your thumb once. What's on a keyboard? Everyone take a moment.
Space bar. Space bar.
Space bar. Boom.
You did that? In between two words. It's two words, isn't it? The answer's two words.
It is two words. What are you going, yeah, two words.
How would I have known known that he acted like that was normal all right hold on yeah he's sleeping on it and that was hate of course it's two words yeah that was easy all right don't handle your bedroom which word is more interesting to you the first one or the second one or you don't care don't care don't care don't care all right think of either word you do it okay you thought a second word No. No? Yeah, Parks.
Oh, good. You do it.
Okay. You thought of the second word?

No.

No?

Yeah, Parks.

Oh, good.

I like his movement around.

See, he's the opposite.

He does the opposite.

He looks this way when he looks that way.

He's kind of, watch, now we'll figure him out.

You're thinking of the first word then.

Pick any letter in the first word.

Don't tell him which one.

All the letters in front of you, boom. You grab one out and you take that letter like it's a Scrabble tile and you can hold it in your hand.
Can you see that letter? Yes. So what he did is he looked at the first letter because his eyes went to the left.
That's the first letter. We read left to right.
But he does the opposite. You didn't think of the first letter, did you? No.
See, he did that to look to throw me off. Come on.
Who are you talking to right now? Yeah, that's what he did at the little secret meeting. I think you jumped and then you grabbed one and I thought it was like right near the middle but it wasn't in the middle.
It's not the last letter, is it either? No. N.
Are you thinking of an N? I am. You are? Yep.
Hey, okay. Holy shit, Parker.
See that? That's real talk right there. He just thought of a letter.
I knew it was an N. It sounded like an M in my mind.
Is there, on a scale of one to 10, you've seen all the stuff I've done, but this is for you. You called me out.
Where on a one, 10 is impossible. Impossible.
Where does this fall for you? Eight. How do we make it a 10? Hold on.
I got it. I got the second word.
Yo, Parks, if you let him make it a 10 right now. He said I have the second word.
Yeah, you had Nate for the first word. But when I go right there, and I wrote this.
You better not. You want me to show you, or you want me to just say it to you? Say it.
Yeah? Yeah. Your boy's here.
You see him. You're nine years old.
You're high-fived. Bing chow.
How the fuck did you get that? No! Wait, wait, wait. Is it Bing Chow? It's Bing Chow.
Is that right? Holy shit. Yo, what the fuck is going on, yo? Bullshit is this? That was a good way to...
I see what you tried to do, though. What? On terms of the throw-off.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a great...
That's a good... Whatever you thought of.
Yeah. And he came up with this shit.
This little Peter Parker looking.

This motherfucker.

This guy is fucking great.

You like a time traveler or something?

That's what Pat McAfee calls me.

He did give me his pen and his little pad to write on.

No pens, no pads, no nothing.

You got him.

Joe, you got me good.

Joe, have you written down a thing?

Have you written down anything? Have you whispered something to somebody? Have you said anything to anyone in this room? No. So when I walked in here, again, we had like one minute before I came on air.
And we mentioned something interesting, which is the fact that yesterday, I had somebody think of someone that had passed away. And I shared that with you.
It was like, it was a weird thing at a show. And they said, this person, are they alive and dead? I'm like, I think they're dead because it's just their body language.
And you told me you had thought of someone a few days ago where you were going through your phone and they popped up and it was someone who passed away. Is that right? Yeah.
I'm not guessing that person, nothing to do. You shared that information with me.
So I don't want people to think later, oh, he told him, so he's using it. But that's something weird, which just popped in your head.
Something just popped in your head that you weren't expecting. Yeah.
And I said to you, think of someone in your phone that you have not talked to in a while. Literally, you have not talked to this person in a while.
It hasn't been the last day or two. Otherwise, too recent.
You might have just said their name on the podcast. Guy or girl.
And I want you to think of that person. And then what if we called them right now? What if we called them right now, put them on air, everyone them on air everyone heard it and you said to them a word two words three words like something a phrase something that they would understand and none of us would get like bing chow can you close your eyes close your eyes and think of what you're talking right now think of what you would say to them a man tell you close your eyes your eyes and your first start is to pucker up? Yeah.
Just the cheek. Was it? Tell me.
It was two words, right? Yeah. Two words.
Open your eyes. Notice your body language earlier.
Ice was tight. You went open.
I think it's a female. You were thinking of a female.
Am I right? Yeah. Yeah.
Come on. That's easy.
Yeah, that is easy. Joe's like, I'm not thinking of any guys.

You met my girl.

All right.

My girl do this every night.

I'm going to train her.

She's like, look at him.

Joe, you thinking of another girl?

I tried to make it a guy.

Get in.

I'm sorry, baby.

Do you call her by her name or a nickname that's a good question that's a good question I don't know the answer to that perfect that's good that's good I don't know if this is a real name or a fake name shit you just think they call her mother named her heaven? What the fuck are you talking about? It's cool. Sorry, darling.
That was solid. Solid.
Pick a letter. You know what? Same thing I did at Parks.
Pick a letter. Here's her name or her nickname, God-given name, maybe her...
I picked a letter already, bro. I'm not him.
I'm him. I'm not him.
I'm him. Like, know who you're dealing with here.
Yeah. You see that? Yeah.
It felt like more than one. It felt like more than one.
Bitch. The letter.
The letter you just thought of. There's more than one of it in the name.
It isn't better. There's more than one.
There's more than one. It's like Michelle with two L's.
I saw it. I looked at two okay probability you're doing a probability I'm not doing probability okay I'm with you and you're thinking of me my name's a weird one O's O-Z Z you thought of a Z didn't you I did think of a Z and it sounds like the word jazz ma jazz ma is that her name what the no way no way way.
Get off. Get off.
Oh, you fucking got me. No, what the fuck? And I would have gotten away with it, too.
If it wasn't for the kids. If it wasn't for the kids.
Hey, that was fucking impressive. Wait, wait.
He was going to call her on the phone. He was going to call her on the phone.
And he said he was going to tell her two words.

Oh, shit.

Yeah, it's words.

Two words.

Oh, you're about to get mad.

Man, that was all the trouble now.

I'll turn it up.

Do it.

Do it.

Let's fucking go.

Was he going to say a place?

That was my first instinct was he was going to tell her a place.

Why was it a place?

But now he's looking away.

No, it's not a place. Eye view.
Oh, shit. Do they know Jasma? Y'all know Jasma? I don't know.
I don't think so. I think he knows her through someone.
I think it's not a place. I think he knows her through someone.
There's somebody connected. Somebody, you don't talk to her, you know her through someone else.

Something's up.

Something's up.

Two words.

Two words.

Hold on.

I'm about to go block you from my girl page.

I know that much.

Joe, how about this?

You took somebody else's chick?

In another room.

In another room.

Let's time stamp all this shit.

You know what?

You said, it's my pen.

This is a pen.

I don't care what,

I don't want to write it

because people can't hear it when we're on there. What if, what if you don't care what.
I don't want to write it because people can't hear it

when we're on there.

What if you write this down somewhere

or you don't want to write it?

I wrote it.

No, you don't write anything.

There's nothing here.

How could I reveal this?

I don't want to show anything visual.

I don't want to just say it.

Think of the first word.

It's a guy.

Somebody knows the two of you.

Two words. Is it a first and last name common ones yo Michael Paul you took MP work again no no it's a joke yo holy shit that guy's good.
That guy's good? Yo, this shit's scary. I ain't gonna hold you.
You got me, buddy. That's what you want.
I'm dumbfounded. I got a headache.
I'm trying to think of how he's doing. I tried to throw him off.
Yeah. I tried to just pick shit that had nothing to do with me at all.
God damn. I've never heard Joe Budden this quiet in my whole life.
Yeah. No, you're good.
Nah. If my girlfriend got in touch with you, I got some of your powers.
It's over. That is ridiculous.
Where did somebody learn how to do this? My book's coming out this year. My book's coming out later this year.
And what happens when you're wrong? What happens when my daughters become teenagers? They're going to be in a lot of trouble. That's true.
Yeah, that's a good point. Or when you're negotiating.
Don't tell them. I'm pretty good with negotiations.
Yeah, don't say. I bet you're fucking off.
Yeah, don't say. What are the downsides of the gift? Mine's always racing.
You know, I'm always thinking, but I think that's like anybody's kind of ADHD. I'm always thinking of stuff.
I'm always watching stuff, but it's a switch. It's not like it's with me all the time.
I've got to focus to do it. You see what I'm saying? You've got to turn it on.
You've got some Gil Grissom shit going on with you. What is Gil Grissom? Gil Grissom was the guy on the original CSI.
Ah, okay. But he was the one.
He was like the mind. Is it annoying? I feel like you can read people so well.
Is it annoying meeting people and kind of seeing through liars? Bullshit immediately? No, not really. I'm fine with it.
I feel like it would ruin my social I feel like I can read people pretty well and I don't want to hang out with people because I can tell they're full of shit. At your level, I feel like you must not want to talk to anybody.
It would go down that path a little bit, but no, I still enjoy it. I try to turn off the mentalist stuff when I'm in day-to-day for the sake of your mind not racing.
It's kind of like revving an engine. It takes a lot of focus to do it.
Do you ignore it at times? If you're talking to somebody just casually and you see the bullshit and it's like, eh, you know what? I know your bullshit and I'll ignore it and still consider it. Yeah, it's good when you're interviewing people or negotiating.
Negotiating. Negotiating.
What do you mean? They don't stand a chance. No chance.
Where do you stand on ayahuasca? I've never done ayahuasca, but I mean, all for it i've got a hundred buddies that have done it and uh you know i think psychedelics are uh you're done mushrooms or any any psychedelic at all psychedelics yeah for sure okay i've had some of my best ideas on i was about to say life-changing does it heighten your your existing gift you want to hear a funny story i mean it's a great story so uh this was in amsterdam before was legal. I'm not a big cannabis guy, but like, I don't know, just not back in the day, high school, different story.
I'm in Amsterdam, and there's tricks that I would do that were magic tricks, not like this, even though this stuff will freak you out too. But I would do tricks that were designed specifically for stoners back then.
And I had a card trick. I feel like it's easy work.
Easy work, but there's ones that really mess with you. So in Amsterdam, there's guy i meet them and this is before weed was legal here you know you go to amsterdam i was on a layover it's a big deal to go to like bulldog cafe and smoke and i meet this group where one dude's on mushrooms and he's really tripping hard and i walk up to him and we're doing i do some card tricks everyone's kind of cool and then i have one for him that's like the trick and it's one I tell somebody, pick a card and they hold it in their hand face up.
So you hold it in your hand. Like imagine King of Spades for you right there, flip.
And he's holding the card and I take the other card and I just wave them. I go slow.
I go, don't blink. And he's holding the card and I wave the cards over.
And when I move the card slow, the card shrinks to one quarter of the size, like, like a mini card just in his hand.

He looked at the card.

He looked at me.

He looked at the card.

He looked at me.

He dropped the card, and he ran out.

Yes.

And yo, I left two and a half hours later to go to the airport.

They still didn't know where he was.

He was black, right?

He was white.

He was white.

I'm out of here.

I ain't fucking with him.

I would like to see him talk to Big Mama. Oh, yeah.
She kicking him out. Quick.
Get him and that devil worship. I wonder if that guy remembers that.
I just want to know. I'm hoping he's safe.
I'm hoping he's okay. I hope he's seen my success and been like, yo, that guy really messed me up in Amsterdam.
But I'll never forget that guy with pupils that were the size of his eyes. Looked at me.
Thought he just saw God. not even in me.
He thought, I mean, he was, he did not even know what hit him. I think the whole universe deconstructed in front of him.
You still know how to do that trick? I still do, but I don't do it anymore. It's kind of a little sleight of hand thing.
I still do, though. You were saying earlier that, a couple minutes ago, that thinking, you think a lot, right? So, where do you have to go to, or, you less? What do you have to do? Is it in your room? Is it with your family? Me with my kids.
I can't be thinking. What's that? That's a great question.
I think when you're with your family, there's so much input. I have four kids and so another one on the way.
God bless. It's a very busy house.
Congratulations, me congratulate my wife she does all the hard work but uh but i think with kids i try to be present i'm gone a lot so when i'm home i try to really be present and enjoy them and like you can't be thinking when there's kids running around doing this it's it's it's chaos it's my favorite kind of chaos and you say you have to focus so much that and they don't like it so i'm on tv they're like i was on right before the super bowl biggest appearance of my life my kids i go do magic shows at their school but i'm not that good at these magic shows i haven't done them in like 20 years and these kids eat you alive like what's in your hand let me see your thumb oh my god open your pocket there's definitely something in your pocket like yo look look you can't get your hand out of my pocket i'm like rethinking my career choice after this one show i came home and one of our friends in the building saw me he thought somebody died my face was like actually what just I go, I think I got to quit my pocket. I'm like rethinking my career choice after this one show.
I came home and one of our friends in the building saw me. He thought somebody died.
My face was like, Ashley, what just happened? I go, I think I got to quit my job. My second grader, they just destroyed me.
And so when I did the Super Bowl, they called me on FaceTime right afterwards. Biggest appearance ever.
Randy Moss freaking out. Adam Schefter was on ESPN right before Super Bowl.
And they go, just, you talk too much. Do the trick with the candy.
Because I have a trick where I just make candy appear. They're like, just do that one.
Yeah, do that one. Do that one.
Look, look, look. Like great directorial notes.
Like stop doing all the tricks with the mind stuff. Just make more candy.
Yep. That was it.
That's the one. That's the kids.
Brought me right back down. Is it tough for you like it is for me to explain to like my partner that I had a long day at work? She's just like,

you talk for a living. Right.
But you was just like,

you were just thinking. I travel a lot.

I'm traveling like crazy. If you see my schedule

next week, I have six shows in four days. I cross the

country twice. I got two red eyes where I'm sleeping

on planes, waking up. 8 a.m.
I'm already on stage

for 3,000 people. So how many days out of the

year are you going? Probably about 1.

15. Oh, wow.
Damn. Gosh.
You're getting to it. You're getting a bag.
3,000 people? Oh, yeah, we pocket watch up here. Yeah, up here? Up here? And you're the person that's nearest you in your competition, do they do venues in similar size? Or do they have a touring outfit set up?

So I don't tour as much.

It's interesting enough.

I do some a little bit of that, but I do corporate events.

So I kind of cut out where you would think to yourself normally.

Nope.

Nope.

I don't know.

Get your money to negotiate.

Yeah.

So it's always better when somebody spends not their own money.

When I'm buying tickets for a show, I'm like, how much is this show? Nabisco, you're saying. Biscuit money.
Biscuit money, Joe. So, no, I just do all different corporate events.
I do some other things, but the TV stuff. But, again, I don't even see this competition because we turn down much more shows than we take in, which is a really great problem to have.
But it's from all the exposure from TV and then really focused in the last few years on social media. And saw that in ways where I think some people really didn't understand the power of viral clips and consistency.
And what it could do for you. It's dopamine.
If you're on TikTok, hundreds of millions of views, people see the right clips, like a Joe Burrow. I literally carpool with a couple other dads and moms in this thing.
They don't't know what i do i look like an accountant gil grissom right there this one guy thought i was a lawyer he's like he goes and he shows me his phone three people sent him to joe burrow in the same week he goes joe that dude looks just like you i'm like that is me he's like how do you do this he's like this is what you do for a job he's like i thought you were a lawyer i'm like yeah i never said anything but but he uh it's it's uh you know it's kind of a niche did it did it change how they talk to you not really because you know now people thinking now when he says to me i can't take the kids from subway pool i'm like i know what you're really doing i know what's going on what no i'm kidding don't lie and say you're sick that's a fake call i'm so i'm so i'm so upset that he that he won here i'm saying i thought that we would be the place to stump him. I'm still waiting for mine.
His broken foot's throwing me off. I can't get in his head.
You know what? We'll try one thing. Here we go.
Get him, Ish. You're smiling already.
You're the last hope, Ish. You can't sweep the room.
We can't repeat. I can't have you do like what he did.

I can't do something new.

Something new.

But you know what?

Your phone.

Grab your phone.

You thought of somebody.

You thought of Jazma.

There was a reason you picked that person.

For some reason, she popped in your head.

You're not in trouble.

I'm not doing this.

He didn't see that you did.

Yes, he is.

Go to your contacts. But hold the phone where I can't see it.
Hold the phone where I can't see it hold the phone where I can't see it oh god I'll stop talking to you again hey depending on what he pull out of there she can get tricky start looking through oh now what are you is that galaxy what do you got I don't know how to I don't know and galaxy does it tell you how many contacts you have or no this is i got a he's saying you up i don't care i don't care he's got too many to know this guy's popular oh no this one light flex extremely popular light flex all right you're looking through ice can you see can you see he's got a privacy screen he's got privacy you can't see anything all right here's what i'm gonna move the mic over and you're not mobile the foot the achilles you're gonna tip your phone so ice can't see it and you can't see now if you just hold if you just hold somebody by accident it's a butt dial i don't want your butt dial that's important here can you bring the phone closer i don't want to see but i want you to do it is it scrolling yes so you're gonna do this i don't know if you can see can you see a little bit you're gonna scroll but go up and down and whenever you want you see is it moving you're going to do this. I don't know if you can see.
Can you see? I can see it a little bit. You're going to scroll, but go up and down.

And whenever you want, can you see?

Is it moving?

You're going to stop somewhere.

And I want you to stop.

But it's very important.

Don't accidentally butt dial or call somebody.

You're just going to keep scrolling like I was doing.

Hold it like this lower.

Flip your hand.

Start scrolling.

Look when you're done.

Give it a couple scrolls.

Now, is he going down?

Is he going up?

Is he going to go to A?

Is he going to go to Z?

Whenever you want, say, I'm done. gonna go z whenever you want say i'm done scroll come on man i'm done bring close to your body hold us down hold on before he looks it's not one name does everyone understand if he if it's one name he did it wrong he should be on a list if you if you take and go through you just end up on a list and i don't know where you started do you start the top so probably in the a's or do you You probably didn start at the bottom.
I was in the middle. In the middle's good.
All right. Give him too much information.
Yeah, don't tell him. Bring it tight.
Yeah, he's not your friend, yo. And don't look ice.
He's tricking you. I'm looking away.
Now, you're going to see a bunch of names, and I'm going to have you do this, look at a name somewhere in the middle. So you get to choose and try to...
Okay. You see one? Put it back to your chest.
How many names were on that whole screen? Probably 15, 20. So it's impossible, right? Even if I gave you the phone and said, look at all the names, you couldn't know who you'd just pick.
I had debate. I was trying to see the body language.
It wasn't a shift. It wasn't noticeable.
Did. Did you pick a guy? No.
Oh, see, I see the opposite. Let's go this.
Yeah. Where'd he go? You passed the test.
He wears a lot of long johns. Think of her.
You know what? Here's what I want to do. I'm going to let you change in the middle.
Look back at that person's name. Was it a first and last name? That I picked? Yeah.
Look at that name wherever it is in the middle. And I want you, I'm going to see if I can see the difference when he changes.
Watch. Keep looking.
Don't change where you're on the screen, but with your eyes, just keep going up until you run out of names to look at. Until you get to the top of the list.
It's like three girls, then one guy, then two. Then you end it on another girl.
Person at the top, is it a female? It is. See, because you did the same thing.
I'm always watching for tells. The tells are when people do something different.
Don't talk to me. Do you know her? Do I know the girl that's at the top of my list? Yeah, whoever you looked at last.
The last person you did, you registered different. You looked like you had a very different expression.
Do you know her well? We cool. Look this way at me.
We cool. Put the phone down.
Something there. I shouldn't.
You know, I'm going for it. it think about this he picked anywhere in his phone he picked any name he wanted he changed the name what six seven times it's not a family member said we cool never that no no never family member doc you got him He keep everybody falling nose.

Oh, shit.

Hey, Doc is killing a girl and not family.

This is so on brand.

It's a first and last name?

Think of her first name.

It's Kathy Lee or some shit.

That's on my phone now, okay?

Yeah, I don't know. Because this is different than the assignment that you gave me.
Yeah, yeah, forget assignment. That was bad assignment.
It was a trick, man. No, he thought of somebody famous.
I want you to do something fresh. Come on.
I'm not doubling down. I wonder who this is.
Me too. I'm on the edge of my seat.
Me too. I want to know.
Parks, you had theories. Parks the whole time had theories.
He goes, oh, man. Maybe he knew what he was going to pick.
Or maybe he's going to leave you and he's going to try to deconstruct this. But how could this be? Yeah.
He changed his mind five or six times. I want to know this girl.
Think of the first letter. Do you speak Spanish? No.
He was about to say poquito. Do you see that? Yeah.
He was. Okay.
I think so. He rolled his tongue.
Rolled. What's the first letter of her name? First letter.
On my phone? R. R.
I knew it was an R. I knew it.
I knew it. And now, what names with an R? Damn.
Joe. Yo, I got it.
I got it. Get the fuck out of B.
Oh, yeah, that's, that's definitely it. That's a sexy name.
That's definitely it. He didn't write anything.
He didn't say anything. He didn't do anything.
He didn't whisper. He looked at his phone.
He changed his mind a bunch of times. You know that boy.
Tell us all, what's her first name? That was on my phone? You keep saying it on your phone. Renee.
Renee. Renee.
Oh, my God.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, man.

What the hell is going on in here?

Yo, what the fuck is going on, yo?

Hey, I like your poker face.

You did good.

I like your poker face.

You fought.

You fought.

You fought.

That was a one.

You fought that name.

You fought the good fight.

You fought that man.

He still smoked you, but I mean. Oh, my God.
This guy, man. I'm speechless.
Yeah, that's something different. I don't.
Well, now at least I understand it. I like the way Ice came into this thinking we're going to get this guy.
That was the best part. We all came to.
Me too. I was like, he's never been on anything black.
No, you know what I don't? No, no, no. In an assignment that he gave me, he gave me a person.
He said, yo, pick somebody that you would have on the couches. So, you know, when my brain started going, I'm like, no, he might watch the show.
So I was like, no, I'm not going. You know, my normal Halle Berry, J-Lo.
So if he would have picked that other person, yeah, it would have been, I was like. I'll leave that in the back.
That's a hanging thread. I told Ice who the person was.
I was like, he can't.

Nobody in here would be like that. Yeah, I wouldn't even have guessed it.

Yeah.

That was extremely impressive.

I can't lie to you.

That was amazing.

All right, so all skepticism is out the window now, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, nah.

There's something going on.

Yeah, there's something there.

I don't know what it is, but...

All right.

Bing chow.

How do you pull that?

How do you pull that?

That's the nickname.

Yo, dog, how do you pull that?

I even went and searched

to see if you ever tweeted that phrase.

Never.

You didn't?

Never.

I didn't even say the phrase.

It was my friends

that said the phrase to each other.

That was crazy, yo.

Bing chow?

I don't know what it means.

Listen, he got me

twice doubled in mine.

He guessed one name

and then another name. That was two names.
And the best trick is I made Flip disappear in the middle. Oh, my God.
That car fucked him up. Yo, that car fucked him up.
Flip had to change his drawers. Yeah, he did.
Flip is out of here. That really fucked him up.
Where can people see you?

Where can people find you?

Best way to find out where I'm going to be is my socials.

It looks like Oz.

Everybody blame my parents' Israeli name, but it looks like Oz.

So it's at OZ The Mentalist.

But it's O's, so it sounds like somebody owes you money.

At OZ The Mentalist.

It's Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, everything.

But typically you're going to see me a lot on TV.

I have a lot of things coming up.

Nice. A lot of sports teams I do.
A lot of stuff with CNBC, so finance. Nabisco.
Nabisco, yeah. All of the big corporate companies.
Come on. It's the corporate money.
And then, yeah, you know what? Just working on a bunch of new fun things. And the book, you said? I got a book coming out at the end of the year.
Yes, and the book is coming out at the end of the year. The book is going to be, the book is not, I'm not going to teach you to do this.
Oh, damn it. That's what I was about to ask.
I was about to say the 49th law of power. Yeah, no.
So honestly, it's a lens of, here's the key is, you can see what I do, how to read people more effectively, but it's for the sake of entertainment. But what if you could take some of these skills, right, these principles and mentalism, apply them to your everyday life, you know, in relationships, at work, like knowing when's the right time to go to your boss and ask for that raise.
What's your right moment? How do you remember things better? How can you get inside other people's heads? It's going to be better for negotiations. Know if people are lying to you.
Just tips and tricks that are very useful. Alright, and that book is banned in America.
I hope not. Publisher needs to go get big.

Jesus.

I'm going to buy that book.

Yeah, no.

I'm getting that book.

That is copy.

I'm getting that book.

I'm getting that bullshit you pulled today.

Yo, that's nuts.

Flip is still showing up.

Yeah, he's still showing up.

I'm a little bit worried about Flip right now.

I'm a little worried.

We're going to ask him to leave in a second.

It's all right.

He can't get in your mind anymore, buddy.

Flip, look at me.

Think of your Social Security, ATM.

No, I'm telling you. That was a crazy one.
I saw you do the pin number joint. Yeah, with Kenny.
No, it was a football player or something you did. With DK? Had him pin number and then had two teammates stand up.
What's your jersey number? Oh, no, that was Josh Allen. Josh Allen.
Dog. That was absolutely insane.
That was ridiculous. You know, certain things hit years.
I like to run and run like marathons, ultra marathons. out running right before that was was going on i was in pittsburgh because they were playing steelers i was running 20 miles and at mile 18 i figured out how i was going to finish that trick because i didn't know how to end it i didn't know how it would end at the end i was like came to me and it was an hour later we did that for josh allen so sometimes man serendipitous i had a question for you that has nothing to do with anything that we've discussed it has nothing to do with any mentalist shit yeah i just kind of want to know where you stand hit me who was wrong uh between sigfried and roy and the tiger yo what side are you on i've heard varying accounts on that one but he didn't even blame the tiger because i guess if the tigers again i don't want to misspeak here but those tigers have certain rules where like you can't do certain things like chimpanzees yeah you know chimpanzees if they see you feed another chimp and not them they'll tear you to shreds yeah they will there's like big things where food you can't bring food in with chimps there's like and those chimps are so strong they can rip your limb for crazy literally you ever see that person who got their face ripped off horrific so with the tigers i think there's certain things where they don't think they're biting you because think a tiger that big if they even play bite you like my dog bites me he's 10 pounds nothing yeah a tiger play bites you you're dead yeah so my understanding is something happened that i don't know what it was but it was like some sort of thing that was a cardinal rule that you don't do and he didn't know like he knows how to deal with tigers but something happened where he didn't blame him like he did something wrong or he had a smell on him or something weird and that they found out afterwards and that was what a reference though joe siegfried and roy throwback and i don't know if you've seen uh uh the clip that's been going around on the internet for a few years i I want to say, of the elephant.
Did you see the clip of the elephant that runs after the tourist bus? Oh, I saw that one. I saw that one.
And the woman passed away. And there was a rumor that the tourist people had killed the elephant's kid or wife or something and the elephant remembered.
Wow. So he waited and he something to these people.
Yo I believe that 100% you know crows remember faces they did a thing with crows where like if one of these people like throw something out of them they're gonna shit right on your head. My sister had an experience with crows I may have mentioned it on this podcast before where someone told her that and she like befriended theows basically.
She talked to them. She would put shit out

for them and they started bringing her shit and showed up

at the same spot the next day.

That shit is for real. They have a language.
They're very

smart. We do trivia with my

kids and this is here. Make this

podcast entertaining and educational.

Do you know what a group of crows is called?

A murder.

A murder? That's a true story.

A group of crows is called a murder. It's weird because my son said that? It's a true story.
Yeah, it's true. A group of crows called a murder.

Yeah.

It's weird because my son said that.

Gotta put murder with the blacks.

It's that bullshit.

Hey, hey.

Gotta fucking put murder with the blacks.

What's wrong with you, man?

I didn't name them.

Be quiet.

Oh, man.

Okay, for me, my final question.

Yeah.

The same way you have this gift.

He's right. The same way you have this gift.
He's right.

The same way you have this gift.

He's right. With humans, clearly.
Do you see things in just the earth that maybe the average person or the normal set of eyes doesn't pay attention to? Do you think that the earth, the earth too the planet gives off cues and clues as to what it may be thinking or feeling that's a great question yeah nice i don't think i mean i think that on a deeper level but not like the mentalism thing because the mentalism thing is really it's a set of skills so it's it's really it's kind of like psychology influencing people there's this it's really if you think about a chef, you know how a chef has, let's say you've got chicken, you've got fish, you've got steak, you've got all these ingredients, I've got sauces. I can make all these recipes.
So when I come up with my stuff, I have different ways to do certain things. And then it's like, it's kind of like jazz, kind of like that chop show where like, you give me this, you give me that, I'm going to whip up a recipe.
So like right now, I don't always know what's going to happen when I walked in this room, but I kind of started leaning into things that would work and things that didn't work. I moved away from.
So it's kind of like, it's really true. Like playing jazz.
I didn't come in here. You saw me walk in.
You're like, how's this guy going to pull this off? We're in a living room. How could you do this? There's no setup.
There's no staging for my bigger shows. A little more of a production, but I think the mentalism is something that's a series of steps that you can learn to do.
That's kind of what the whole book's all about.

That's more like a spiritual question.

But I think, I mean, I think there's definitely some energy and some do with the planet.

And I don't know how to tap into that.

I mean, what do you think of ayahuasca?

Have you done that?

Ayahuasca, no.

Oh, you mentioned to me.

So I've heard wild stories from people.

Shit, enough mushrooms, you'll start seeing and feeling the earth.

I agree.

And shit. I have one.
The plants. Go ahead, go ahead.
I just have one final question. Are there times when you're wrong? Yeah, 100%.
Yeah. And how do you navigate through that? The best, the way you see how good you get at this is that people don't know when you're wrong.
So that's the real art is that, what if I told you that in this room I had more than one thing wrong, but you didn't ever see it because I just pivoted around or moved around. It's kind of like, just like duck and wings, like Floyd Mayweather doesn't get hit, but does he make mistakes? Sure.
So in my show, there's things that didn't go right. Like yesterday I was on TV and I guarantee you something went very wrong, but I worked around it so quickly.
You didn't notice. I noticed you't.
Getting stuff like wrong, like, like just boom, like you just guess I'm totally wrong and then you're stuck is very difficult on live TV because if there's no more time to get out of it, then you're stuck in a corner. And the worst thing is if the last thing is wrong, but it happens.
I, like if you would have picked the girl's name wrong for me, there would have been no, nothing you could have done. Yeah, didn't just say, I'm going to guess the name.
I figured out a letter, and then I got... Gotcha.
It came together, right? If you noticed that. I understand.
It's not a... Gotcha.
It's actually truly... Tell me right now what it is.
I'm like, I don't know it yet. I got to figure it out.
It's like a puzzle. It's a puzzle.
It's exactly a puzzle. It's Wheel of Fortune.
Only I can put together letters before Vanna White turns them around. It's got to be this.

I already know what they are when they're in your head.

It's better than Wheel of Fortune.

Yeah.

Wheel of Fortune keep giving you a bunch of clues.

You went from R to a full name.

Yep.

I feel like there's some crime shows.

Last name.

Hold on, hold on.

Last name.

Sounds the same.

It's like a rhyming.

Isn't it?

Dovey.

Dovey?

Dove?

Is it? Don't tell me that's it no it's dover dover yo that's crazy you're gonna let him do that on the walkout me on the walkout he said yo i know how you met the girl through Michael Paul. It had to be you.
Man, that's a pretty name you're thinking about over here. Dover.
Hey. Hey, Dover, boy.
Freak-ass boy. It's a nice name.
I'm going to look up. Yeah, me too.
Me too. Me too.
All right, so. No, we good.
We good with him. We super good with him.
Hopefully we don't see him anymore. Ever, yes, please.
Unless we need some information. Only other place you're going to see me is Flip in his nightmares.
Make some noise for Old Furman! Thank you, JVP! Thank you, man. We are so appreciative.
I'm a believer. No, no, no.
I'm on board. I'm officially...
I'm going around the circle. High fives down the line.
I love it. Thank you, gentlemen.
No, thank you, man. What? That was crazy.
What? We had a round of applause for my guy. I had to get some real applause.
Old Pearlman, the mentalist in this piece.

Mentalist.

He was doing some shit.

Fucking Aston.

That was witchcraft or some shit.

I ain't rolling, man.

I will say, any time I ever saw that on TV,

I never believed that shit.

Me neither.

Me neither.

For him to do it the way he did it in this room

to each one of us?

Like, come on, man.

What the fuck is going on here?

It's something to that shit.

I'm going to get down to the bottom.

Fam.

He's good. He's good.
I don't have nothing to say. He's good.
He did it. He did it.
Yeah. That fucked me up, bro.
I'm not going to. Facts.
That shit's going to fuck me up. I'm going to be replaying this shit in my mind.
You fly. Bing, cow.
Why? I need to figure out how he did it. Why y'all saying ching chow? I'm going to watch and analyze this video like I'm an NFL quarterback.

Word.

Where did I slip up?

Word.

All right.

That gave it away right there.

No wonder Mel, like, sitting there looking at your phone, nigga. You'd be like Jamarcus Tussle.

He was an NFL quarterback.

Let me think of who you would be.

Like I said, Jamarcus Tussle.

You trying to think of some flop-ass quarterback. What this Be like Vince old What Something's wrong Vince old Something is wrong With him yo Yo get out my phone I just think it's fly Get out my phone You be doing like Five things every one time That's why Whoever sit here That don't mean You can just look At people's phones I'm giving you credit For being flicking That's flicking It don't matter Where he sit He gonna look your phone.
You be doing like five things every one time. Whoever sit here that don't mean you can just look at people's phones.
That's crazy. I'm giving you credit for being flicking.
That's flicking. It don't matter where he sit he gonna look in your phone.
He's crazy. Bro that nigga be sitting up there that nigga be like he been ish phone male phone.
Yeah but I don't say shit I don't say shit about y'all niggas. His shit is just okay my sleeper proving proving yet again that I am always gonna be a sucker for a dead president sample.

I don't care what y'all say.

I don't care.

I don't care.

I am playing NTG.

This record is called Whatever For You.

I'll do whatever for you, mama. Yo no quiero play Man, got 10k for your body You know how I'm playing I'll be watching face on the Anji You can't do it in all the clubs, you can find me You can't do it in all the clubs, you can't find me You can't do it in all the clubs, you can't do it in all the clubs You can't do it in all the clubs, you can't do it in all the clubs Hurry up and get ready, drop your attie Niggas talking all the night, but they don't at me Always gotta add it to it, I'm tryna go to the next one, I can still be swaggy My boy is secure in the 4th and with my daddy Hurry up and get ready, drop your addy Niggas talking all the night but they don't at me Always got an attitude, I'm trying to make you happy Every night we fuck but on your Twitter you don't jack me Fine for the 2 but I can't lie she got the jaddy Tommy busts on her face, it's good for her acne I can't fuck every bitch raw but she gon' trap me I be in my feelings too baby I massage you If I'm prejudiced to a patty, for sure.
La que me control eres tú, intentando de olvidarte, estoy oyendo tutu.

Te pongo a llamarte en el cuello, mami, dame la luz.

Y el niggas sacaré los pies, yo tengo un bro Jimmy Choo.

No fuma, pero me rola lo bájate, yo te traje una perky pa' que tú te desataste.

En ese posito estoy surfer, ma, cualquiera puedo gasse.

Tú lo tienes perfecto. Me gusta chocar, I do whatever for you, mami.

Yo no quiero play. Ma, I got 10k for your body You know how I play I be watching face on the Haji I'm looking at all the clouds, you can find me And you can bring me all the leggings to the swaggy My bones are in the 4 and with my daddy Use your button Try to make me weak, but I still stay strong.

Put my life all up in these songs.

Just so you can tell me, you can get the real need.

As I am.

Whatever.

All right, that's brand new music.

That's NTG featuring Bass Swag.

That record is called Whatever For You, available in your phone and on where? DSP. DSP's right this very second.
Alright, I told y'all about the album earlier. I don't know what they did for you.
It's cool. You think it's Faola? Yeah, they did something.
That's a nice song. But he's been in the hospital.
If he come out to the hospital, he'll see that. That song has a little bit of motion now.
I think you would like where it has motion at, too. Of course he would.
Suave! I think you would really appreciate who this song has some motion with, is all I'm saying. I hate talking.
That's it. Nigga, it should be walking to the spot like this with his hands inside.
With his little medical bike rolling in. Hey, y'all laughing.
That shit work in the spot. With his little Medicaid bike.
You bugging. That shit will work.
They give it to you for free, right? A little sympathy. They come right over.
What's wrong? What happened? Got the bike for free? Yeah. No, that shit costs, but I got mine for free.
The doctor gave it to me. A little Obamacare bike.
It's just like 350, nigga.

Nah, it does.

It's 350.

Yeah.

Like I said, I told y'all about the album.

Definitely going to play off of this Kevin Gates, I'm Him Too.

This is the intro track called Therapy Sessions.

Yep.

Kevin Gates, come up here, man.

Ask some questions to fucking Kevin Gates.

I ain't going to hold you.

Get in there.

Get back in your bag. Yeah, I do.
I got to ask to fucking Kevin Gates. I ain't gonna hold you.
Get in there. Get back in your bag.

Yeah, I do.

I gotta ask her a few things.

And what that?

Yeah, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, I'm't get offended I quickly remembered, I'm bopping about it Shit sentimental, no sense in pretending I'm no longer rocking my Cartier watches Cartier water by Tiffany Diamonds Now I don't even like the name to go with it Before I go shopping or doing the copping I want a nigga praying to go with it Big Luca Brice, a big trending topic I put that on my Zedder, I'ma get with you You know that it's floating, I'm standing on business I get in they face and I hand them a 50 You know I'm on 10 when I stand in the trenches Internet, I keep a positive image Any percent of that I'm in attendance You get in my presence, you know that it's tension Took care of whole ass niggas, helping broke assholes Wasn't even worth it, speaking on me Keep my name out your dick, sucker Get off the ground and commit you a murder No, you ain't never been off in no gangsta shit Back up and rank and I'm back on my purpose When I was with y'all, I was goin' in circles You hang with a clown, you a part of the circus I figured it out, I got back in my back Yellow caliber, matchin' a Rory convertible Hold up, yeah, I might've went over your head I push a button and all of a sudden The sound go over my head You still live at home with your mother Go to your room and go get in your bed You know I'm patrolling the gutter You know that I'm thuggin', I'm one of them men You know if I put you to sleep, check you in with a switch, you won't get up again Look how they perpetrate a nigga image, won't even tell the public where they get it Imagine you taking away from your family, you guilty of charges you haven't committed Everyone else get a slap on the wrist, every time you go in it's a different facility Emotions caught with him inside, lot of compartmentalized trauma, I ain't never talk with you about mine Swear I'ma kill me a nigga, mom I ain't even talkin' Bitch died, they sayin' hurt people hurt people, bitch I'm destroyed on the inside Man, you ain't no factor You don't get saluted by shooters and jackals Respect me on heavy whenever you step in and willing to make an example Call them made kind of a Mexican Call them recruited by people who matter Call a sharp and cartel I just went on and said I knew that you that you ain't understand it Oh, hey, really get acting Bread wanna be on my jacket I don't listen to nothing but gates I'm up in rank, you know that my daddy Remember when he used to want me to rap But show me how to unwrap it Bread wanna major, leave my mafia boom And a lot of these niggas be acting Tell them to speak on it You know they missing a lot of them factors You touching what we touching, off the gloves and your fingers supposed to be ashy Dope brass and senate warehouse package delivered in palace Just got off the horn with the bread when it dawn He throw me the L.M. slamming Bukuban's name rang I don't pulse up on the ground Pulse up in the trap Pray the wake up take these extra grams Love my swag Know I'm yeah I don't really go, out of town shopping Saw me park my smoker pump again Take my number, let me back, no strings attached, I'm about to shave When the business getting hampered, I be quick to cancel plans Say you still be thinking about me, thank you ma'am, no thank you ma'am Metro PCS be jumping, sales be bump.
It's the first track off of his new album, I'm Him Too, and your phones on DSPs. Kevin Gates, come up here, bro.
Come up here, man. Get these questions.
I'm going to Houston. This is Marcus Clay, Mama Told Me.
Mama told me You're gonna be someone Someone, someone You're gonna be someone Someone, someone Who the fuck is Marcus Clay? Before you start your day, put this shit on your playlist To understand I'm a future agent I know he got me.

Yo, yo, yo. I can't hear nothing in the headphones.
I ain't hear no music in the headphones.

Okay, I was in the cut like peroxide.

I knew the game was mine from the moment we locked eyes.

Bitch, I was outside.

On tour, bonjour.

How could you doubt?

I control the meaning of clay.

And it outlines the reasoning of my existence.

This is hieroglyphics.

Psychophysics.

Heightened vision.

I seen it all in the back of my mind. I watched family turn to foes in the blink of an existence.
This is hieroglyphics, psychophysics, heightened vision. I've seen it all in the

back of my mind. I watch family turn to foes in the blink of an eye.
Damn!

I'm gonna be someone, someone, someone I'm gonna be someone, someone, someone You ever wanted to kill a nigga you share blood with? With the same last name and you share bud with? That's the main reason why me and trust is repugnant Same people that say they love you, leave you disgusted I'm the last motherfucker you fuck a shit, fuck with

Keep thinking you tough, bitch, you'll sleep in the dust

Stiff, but fuck all that shit, let's get back to this rap shit

They placed me in the wilderness like John the Baptist

And I ain't have a goddamn thing in it, bitch

I gave up every goddamn thing for this shit

Ain't no plan B's or backups to relax for

What the fuck you think I rap for, to sit back poor? Someone told me, you're gonna be someone, someone, someone Clearing my throat, asking for hope, how could you go against my kid, that's a no All those years I cry tears when they locked you up 45 years, man, yeah, they really fucked me up But I gotta move on from this hurtin' Wish I could bring my mama back alive from the dirt But in the meantime, I gotta keep it steady on my mean grind And do everything to feed mine. Never mind.
Moving on. Moving on.
I know what he's saying. Moving on.
They don't be playing fair, right?

Moving on.

They just smooth with it.

What you got here?

They just smooth with it.

And they hospitable?

Come on.

They got you right where they want you.

I hate these niggas.

I just want to say that.

You been like the time I saw you, right?

Absolutely hate.

They got you on your trip down there, huh?

They a complete cheek-old.

Yeah, as a kid when you were there in South, huh? That's when you fell in love, right? Cheek-hole, he said. No mob D, no nothing.
With them voices, they don't be playing fairs. And they got backyards, freeze.
They got backyards, hell me, you can run around. You New York niggas don't know nothing about that.
We got backyards up here. Sorry for it.

And driveways and grass.

All right, come on.

All right, Ish.

What Rene Dover dropped?

You will remember the back.

Rene Dover got some heat coming.

What happened?

I'm going to Alex Isley, yo.

The song is called Hands.

What, bro?

Hands.

Gotta use the hands. Now the feet's fucked up, right? Exactly.
Gotta use the hands now. Welcome to the camp.
Oh, man. Let's go, been gone Need to know Alex, not Alex Oz These sheets on my skin, the only touch I've known You a hater, yo Nothing like the feeling that I left back home Help me remember Though it's hard not to dream about Cause it's the one sensation That I can't seem to go without Out of reach but you're close enough As long as I can see your face I need to fill them on me Pull me into your embrace With your hands No scent, no scent, just touch me with your hands Your hands, your hands I'll hold on till you hold me with your hands Your hands Your palms and fingertips simulate me Curves anticipating I've been meditating On the places your caress could take me In a state of our own making, it's electric Couldn't pull away when it's magnetic When you feel me, you make sure I don't forget it Cause this could slip away if you let it Help me remember, though it's hard not to dream about Cause it's the one sensation that I can't seem to go without Out of reach, but you're close enough So at least I can see your face I need to feel a moment Pull me in until you're erased with your hands No soup, no sack, just touch me with your hands Your hands, your hands I'll hold on till you hold me with your hands Your hands That's Alex Isley, hands Good shit, y'all Good shit That's my nigga Don't look at me, boy Don't look at me That nigga know When he got some heat That's fire Nah that shit Was bad fire Keep it to yourself Go ahead Gay keep it Nah that was crazy She ain't even here The beef ain't even on today The sleeper battle Was on pause How you found that record How you found that I got An app What the fuck Oh, I'm just saying.
You don't know that person personally, do you? Alex Isley is a pretty dope person. Oh, I don't know.
She's fine. I mean, I didn't know she dropped some shit last week.
You know, and I'm a fan. It wasn't last week.
It says March 14th. Step your game up.
Oh, shit. Apple said that.
I don't know. She gets the exclusives.
It was February. It was February.
It was February.

It's a what record?

A camper record?

February 28th.

Let's go E.

It's all right, Aki.

I'm looking at the strip down.

Your hands.

And you stole one of my joints they told me about.

What's her name? The internet told me. No.
One of my sleep they told me about what's her name

the internet told me

no

one of my sleepers

oh

what's her name

same question still

pretty much

that was fire

god damn

the world told me

uh

it's cool

that was the end of the sleepers right

you got Nala drop

nah

Nala's out here though

she ain't drop

shout out to Nala black men

nah

stop doing that

girl a freak part 2 Thank you. It's cool.
That was the end of the sleepers, right? Yeah? Nala drop? Nah, Nala's out here, though. Nala drop something.

She ain't drop shot.

I don't know how the black men.

Nah.

Stop doing that, y'all.

Girl, a freak part two?

You know what I mean?

I'm getting ready to do some work, man.

Uh-huh.

Your hands.

So stupid, y'all.

I don't feel like there's anything else I need to get off my Heart Let's see here What's the weekend? What's up? What's happening? Family shit, chilling shit Same, feeding the in the spots. You gonna where? All the spots.
Oh, you got something moving around? Yeah. On the Meta bike? Yeah.
I'm trying to tell you something. Get to scootin', boy.
I'm trying. The bike works.
That's a joke, nigga. No, it ain't.
You ain't fooling me. I ain't got nothin' planned.
I mean, I'd love to sound different so we could all not sound so washed, but nah. I don't really have nothing planned.
Sometimes it's all right. Yeah.
Just chill for a little bit. We got some single fans, man.
Listen, Bill Burr said it. He said, fucking eight hours of sleep is a new pussy.
I ain't gonna lie. You ain't lying.
I can't get eight. Oh.
That's too much. You can't take that? You can't take that? You can't take the eight? You can't finish it.
Eight hours worth of sleep. Just finished down.
Oh Push it, right? Easy then, right, boy? Take your time. Don't rush.
Don't rush your niggas, boys. Them niggas with eight as a Chico.
And they voice. I don't know.
From Southern Boys. If your status ain't hood, I ain't checking points.
Better be street. When you're looking at me, I need a soldier don't you stand up for me I'll stand in between If you know what I mean Oh shit, man Holy shit I thought you had the no limit check We gotta end it like that now Do not play that right now No, we gotta end it like that We gotta That nigga had the no limit check I see why you was at eight at the table now.
Now I got you.

That's funny.

I got you now.

You seen the whole night?

There you go.

Okay.

All right.

I'm just asking you.

Absolutely.

Disgusting way to end the podcast.

I'll be back at the table.

Yeah.

See you, Kurt.

Hey.

Look.

See y'all did it for you?

Let's go, Freeze.

Let's go, Freeze. Yeah.
Take it it for you? Let's go, Freeze Let's go, Freeze Take it further, Freeze Holla, Freeze You can kick it with Kevin Holla, Freeze We can no longer call him Take it further, God That is absolutely disgusting So the baddies are insecure That's true We are gay are gay as hell. Nah, y'all.
Y'all. Oh, shit.
There's some soldiers in here. Go ahead, ask them where they at.
With the background. Where they at? Where they at? Oh, my Lord.
All right, listen, man. Totally disgusting.
Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you.

Keep us in your prayers.

Lord knows we need to be there.

Until the next time I bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir.

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Keep that we're cleaning Clean it Always be talking that Conscious language

We like

Beat the beat in the back

Beat it

Beat it

I've been saying that

Yo Destiny's child was saying whatever to tell him

Anything they wanted to

Kelly married to a white dude

Ho from the projects

Where was they getting this from?

She's there to say

That we are here

That on my Ho

She talking about Ho in her verse

She talking about Ho in her verse?

Yeah

She was talking about Ho

Oh I don't know

We like them boys up top from the BK. Okay, I didn't have this.
Know how to flip that money three ways. I don't have it memorized.
It's a hit. I just heard it yesterday.
Wait, what? This one hits hove a little bit. That nigga got the verse.
You got so memorized. I just heard it yesterday.
And you were sitting there thinking about Chris Brown I ain't forget about that Neither nigga And you were sitting there Thinking about I don't care I don't care Dead or alive Dead or alive Anybody dead or alive At the top of that nigga mind Was Chris Chris Brown Breezy You want a Breezy remix Phenomenal Yo y'all hold it down man We getting of here. We a go.
Everybody enjoy your weekend. Shout out to the A-lister.
Shout out to the first and last time listeners. Hey, hey, hey.
Hey. Freeze, I don't think you should be singing this like that, nigga.
Just chill.

Nothing so funny.

Music is music.

Fuck y'all.

He trying to have a cool head nod to this shit.

It's over.

It's too late.

I don't care.

Yeah, but your head nod can't be cool.

Yes, it is.

I don't care.

You seen Kelly in this video?

Yes. I did.

Amazing.

What about her?

Definitely did.

What about her?

Hey.

What the fuck you talking about, nigga?

Hands.

I was trying to learn that dance. That little shit they was doing.
Let's see, do it right now on your little boot. Nah.
Some shit. I'm tearing this shit up.
Yo. You're going to be mad.
You cut Wayne off. If I catch you outside on that Meta bike.
I'm going to kick it down, right? You crazy? Y'all are bugging, yo. No, no, he could go,

but I better not see him.

I better not see that little Obamacare bike

riding around.

You really are wilding.

Young money is on me.

I'm telling you something.

But you're going to be

in the spot with him

or are you going to

chain it up outside?

No.

You're going to chain it

on the fire?

Not the bike rack.

Right at the bike rack. Right at the bike rack.

Next to the city bikes.

Yo, no final words, right?

No.

Nah.

Good, yeah.

All right, y'all is holding down.

I swear to God.

We did miss this guy. We did.
And shout out to our sister Mel again. Miss in peace.
Our sister in Christ. Mel.
Big Mel. We love you.
And that's that. Here we go.
And Islam. JBP.
JBP. JBP.
Where would you be without the JBP? J-J-J-J-J-BP. JBP.

Psych.

Fuck y'all.

All right, he back around.

Don't try to rush through it.

All right, come on.

Now we go.

Don't try to rush through the JBP, though.

Don't try to do that.

Snooking.