
Episode 809 | "Willfully Obtuse"
The latest episode from the JBP begins with the Mariah Carey tribute at the iHeart Awards who seemed to be unimpressed with the performances (30:33) which leads the room to discuss tributes needing an overhaul, and which celebrities & artists they’ll be sad about when they pass (50:00). Usher is seemingly trying to change the lyrics to ‘Nice & Slow’ (56:50), the crew discusses Bill Burr’s new stand-up special on Hulu and whether or not they agree with his opinion on open-casket funerals (1:23:14), and UMG responds to Drake’s ‘Not Like Us’ lawsuit (1:33:19). Also, the lineup for 2025 Dreamville Festival (1:49:17), Iggy Azalea takes aim at UMG (1:55:30), another Kanye West rant hits the internet (2:04:36), Joe questions his co-hosts about hope (2:19:10), Tracy Morgan throws up courtside at the Knicks game (2:38:32), resurfaced audio of Jonathan Majors (2:47:00), and much more.
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Oh!
Oh, see,
I started recording.
I was just yelling.
How you doing?
What's up?
I'm good.
How you?
You looking at me like that.
How you doing?
Oh, I look at you.
Oh, I hate you.
I can't see.
I can't see through them glasses.
It's just as dark as hell.
It's dark.
Them nightcrawler glasses. I can't see.
To glasses. It's just as dark as hell.
It's dark. Them nightcrawler glasses.
I can't see through the Cyclops.
Good.
Why'd you have your hand up?
Huh?
Why'd you have your hand up?
Meaning that I yield.
Okay.
I yield.
We've been using I digress wrong. Yes.
If somebody's been checking me on their social media, I digress. It's not I yield.
Okay. I yield.
Because we've been using I digress wrong. Yes.
If somebody's been checking me on their social media, I digress. It's not I yield.
How do you properly? I don't know. You got to ask him.
But I know. We use a lot of words wrong.
I just. I make a list and every once in a while.
And that's fucked up. I feel like once a month I'll intervene.
You're not down to help us? Like today's word is y'all say willfully obtuse all the time. Obtuse means to be willfully, sort of not understanding.
It's redundant to say willfully obtuse. But everybody says it all the time.
It drives me crazy. But I said I wouldn't say anything about it.
But since it came up. Your homegirl said it.
I absolutely did, because sometimes you got to double up on it. Sometimes you got to double up on it.
It's a redundancy. You trying to put that on us, you're hungry? I said us.
Us. Us.
We don't say that like that. Other people have said it too.
I was the last one to use the phrase, and I meant to use it for, like, to double up on it. Oh.
Like, literally, when I say you're so... Bark.
When I say the thing, like, when I say, like, you're so repugnant, the word repugnant finds you repugnant kind of thing, that's my intention. Yeah, but let's get back to this willfully obtuse thing.
So your intent is to double up, double shot of expressive. Your intent is to...
Sometimes I feel it necessary to do so, yes. What do you think about that? I think it's a beautiful day outside.
It is a beautiful day. I love you, Mel.
How you doing today? You good? I'm fantastic. How you doing, brother? I'm doing well.
I'm on Mel's side in this one. It's like when we say tuna fish.
Right. Right.
As opposed to a tuna. Right.
Oh, God. Obviously being a fish.
No, just tuna. It's your tuna.
Got it. Okay.
Yeah. Right? I see the type of shit y'all on.
Yeah, they don't bullshit. For sure.
But we digress. Willfully.
Willfully digress. Willfully digress.
I yield. Yeah.
I love y'all. You let niggas get shit off of me.
We sound crazy.
Sometimes we be sound,
especially me,
sound crazy, yo.
Oh, yeah.
What have you been listening to?
Just people.
Just professors.
Yo, you be saying a lot of wrong shit up there.
It's not just you.
It's everybody.
I get it.
Yeah, but you don't help.
I listen to every episode
and I make notes.
I don't think you're for the black man
like I thought you was.
I don't pretend to be.
Again, check my phone. You be shitting on people? My agent, my lawyer, my turdies.
So, it's okay. Get with the whole team, baby.
Oh, really? So you only... Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me just laugh. Hold on.
No, that was really funny.
Mark is...
We got to ask.
Ask him the question.
So you don't believe that you could have a black lawyer?
That should be investigated.
Yeah, get him, Flip.
You don't believe you should have a black lawyer?
No, I think you should.
I think you absolutely should.
Can you?
I think you should have a black lawyer or a black agent.
Why don't you have a black lawyer?
Why don't you have a black agent?
Why don't you support our community by putting money back in the blacks' pockets? I put money in the blacks' pockets every day. No, let's talk about that.
I support the blacks. What about your lawyer and your attorney? It just worked out that way.
Same thing. Honestly, it just worked out that way.
When I went into William Morris and Denver, I would have happily... Don't be shouting at you.
Don't be shouting at you. Hey, put your mic down a little more into your mouth, Fox.
This is about to be awesome. I want to hear everywhere.
I don't want to miss a time. And what doctor do you prefer? What type of doctor? I bought mine, so it don't matter.
Huh? That's what I heard. No, he didn't say doctorate.
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I know.
It's okay, though. Wait, you bought your doctorate? That's what I heard on the internet yesterday.
What did you say? What doctor do you prefer? To perform an operation? Oh, like the race of the doctor? My doctor, you know what? I do have a black doctor. I have a black woman doctor and a black woman dentist.
Good choice. Good choice.
Good choice. You know that there was a study done that black female, black women doctors.
Much better care. Yes, exactly.
Yo, yo, stop. A peer-reviewed study might I add.
Mal, please, Mal. True.
Sorry. Mal, please.
I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry.
Yo, it's a lot of y'all that's riding on the I support black women wagon And y'all are just a different type of horny That's all it is It's a lot of y'all that's Waving the flag of The black woman doctor You missed it, he just said he's getting a colonoscopy from a black woman.
You think it's just horny?
Next week.
That's a different level of horny.
They always leave out a word.
They always leave out a word.
They support fine black women.
See, I don't even look at their faces.
Mark, Mark, Mark.
Not today, Mark.
He's a happily married man.
Not today, Mark.
That's hate.
That's hate.
He don't need you there. I'm not even hating.
That's exposed hate. I'm not hating.
Don't be willfully obtuse.
When I'm looking for a doctor, I don't look to see
if she bad or not. Yes, you do.
Nah. Not for a doctor.
Yes, you do. When you're getting a camera
shoved up your ass, I feel like you might
not want her to be fine, right? Yeah, that's actually a good point. How come when men keep talking, a woman has the audacity to talk? Yes, yes, yes.
Sorry, I think that's why I got fucking hired. But anyways, go off.
Because what I'm saying is one of those things where you have to have a penis, and I'm not beefing. I love you.
But I think because you have a penis yeah you don't want your... No, no, I'm not talking about it.
She's cleared up. I was like, whoa, this episode took a turn.
No, no, no. I definitely don't have a penis.
I'm saying you want your doctor to be the best doctor. True.
Yes. I believe that.
Yes. Because you have a penis you notice what level of the fine scale she falls on.
When I get to the office. Meaning you have a vascular reaction.
I'm not choosing her based on that. But when I get there, I notice.
Yeah. Okay, yeah.
But I ain't looking for it. Whereas there are some jobs where I want to know how they look.
You're not just blind to the, oh, I'll take. Respucia.
No, no. Wow.
You know how she looks. But certain jobs you do care.
You want your agent to be attractive. This right here is why Bill Burr's special was so amazing to me.
I love that special. I need to watch it.
I love that special. It was so genius.
I really love that. We'll talk about it later.
Yeah. But it was so, he said a lot of just wild shit, but in the simplest of fashions.
That's it. I actually want to talk to y'all about something he said.
But we should start the pod. Yeah, we should start the pod.
Forget the hell. Y'all and them female doctors and surgeons.
Ma'll be on bullshit, y'all. I like that he said I don't look at her face.
You an ish at the six a game, boy?, the concession stand. Didn't mention the body.
Concession stand? What are those? What are you talking about? Joe's turning me into a monster man. Joe.
No. No, you've been kind of a monster.
How y'all doing? How y'all feeling? Feeling good, man. Glad to be here.
Good. Happy to see all y'all.
Look at you. Get out.
Get out on set. Causing trouble.
Audience, I want to let y'all know Mariah Carey has really divided the room. Very much so.
Mariah Carey has really divided the room in a way that I never
thought I'd see, actually. I didn't think it was possible.
Yeah. Yeah.
So,
I guess we'll have all of those talks, too. I thought she was a
cheat code a little bit. And I got
mad just bullshit written in my
phone. I didn't want to tell y'all and fill that old board
up. It is a bunch of bullshit.
Great.
That's good. I'm down for it.
Alright.
What's that face for, Flip? I'm just seeing where he's going today. That's all.
My favorite catch. I'm down for it.
All right. What's that face for, Flip?
I'm just seeing where he's going today.
That's all.
Okay.
I'm here to be a team player.
Ready?
You're always a team player.
Eh.
I would say always.
Very rarely.
Very rarely.
Being willfully obtuse again.
Seldomly. I team player.
Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
You're welcome. Oh, man.
All right. What do you got for us? We waiting on him.
Sometimes you got to double up on him. That was a really good excuse.
I was impressed. You try to put it on us though that was nigga level hey listen sometimes you become a product of your environment so you know that was a little complimentary I don't know if it was no one felt complimented felt complimented At all At all Not even a little bit Okay She said I said that on purpose She freestyled That shit Immediately I knew that And she got serious But she looked at me You got some bullshit Friendship I ain't that friendship shit That freestyle was crazy though He said yo We sometimes up here Say things It's oxymorons.
It's like, who said it? Who said that last? Well, I said it last, but... I meant that.
Yeah, nigga, like, point at that direction, nigga. Talk to each other.
But actually, it's not oxymoronic. What is it? Thank you.
Help me. You know what I'm saying? Wrong shit again.
I'm willing to learn. I don't want to be willfully obtuse.
I have a feeling this is the name of the fucking episode. You actually used it right.
Good shit, man. I did.
I did. I'm willing to learn I don't want to be willfully obtuse I have a feeling this is the name of the fucking episode good shit man I'm learning show the bars in hell don't you say nigga got nigga got a pound off of that yo a pound used to mean so much more the value of a pound is in a pound I'm gonna let you know I let you know.
I'm going to let you know that I'm on your ass today.
I gave you a chance to chill and be humble.
Don't pile up.
I'm on you today now, nigga.
Anything you say, I'm on your ass.
Don't laugh.
I'm on your ass today now.
The bar's in hell because he got a pound. Niggas is just getting pounds For just like Whatever Yo I'm full of shit Yo give me some Yo Alright man I gotta fucking come to work And fucking laugh through my depression What are you depressed about, buddy? The world, yo Just the world As a non-smoker I didn't have the best sleep Like I was in and out Kept waking up on a part of the dateline That I didn't see Falling asleep to the dateline.
Just in and out of sleep,
tossing and turning
all fucking night.
I wake up
and Ian's fucking
talking stupid
on my fucking phone.
In a conversation,
I tried to exit
90 times,
but he wouldn't
let it go.
Just be so on
the other side
of something
with somebody you love.
Then I just got
to thinking about shit.
Fucking sad as hell.
That's like, oh, fuck, we got to work.
Oh.
Oh, oops. Sorry.
Hey. I got to pull up on the black classics.
Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.
I'll cheer you up. Huh? I'll cheer you up.
No, it'll work every time.
Yes, I knew you, I knew you, I knew you, I knew you, I knew you, I can feel it when you want.
Ah, let's see here.
When you want, it takes all around me.
Yes, I'm down there.
I wanna know, can you feel it too?
Correct.
So we'll go like this, shout out to all the parents out there. Shout out to all the black people and the white people listening.
We love you. And the Asians.
And the Asians. That's true.
All the brown people out there. The first and last time listeners.
All the hate listeners out there. Hey, everybody at Work Through the Depression.
Hey!
Wait a minute!
I can't believe you let Ian get you depressed like this.
It's starting now.
It's starting now.
My eyes go.
No, it's not so much, Ian.
You ever just look at all the...
It's like Professor X,
looking at the world with the mutants, and
just not loving the effect of it.
Like, oh. You ever just look at
the results of all that come from you,
and you're like,
I didn't plan on some of this with some
of y'all. Oh, you listen to a really bad podcast
then, huh?
Oh, my god. All right, man.
No bliss. There's no good place to cut that off.
There's no good place to cut that off. It's not.
Shout out to everybody at work right now. Shout out to all the hate groups.
All the hate listeners out there. Shout out to the Patronus.
Speaking of the billboard, dog, shout out to anybody building that porch.
Fuck what HOA thinks about it.
That's right.
Shout out to you adding that fucking extra room, that whole extra dimension to the house.
Hey.
Okay.
Flip, you good?
I am.
You cool?
I see you.
I'm watching you.
What you watching?
I'm watching you.
How you watching me?
Just watching you.
That's all.
Just watching you. I'm watching you, too.
Just watching you.
I energy up in here. IRS.
IRS. I'm watching you, too.
Just watching you. I-Energy up in here.
I-Energy up. Who? IRS.
I'm watching you. He's watching me like the IRS.
Oh, yeah. It's tax time.
Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, my God.
Hell yeah. It's everybody.
It can be on your ass, too. They are.
They don't worry about it. They all mine.
Don't worry about it. But I'm married, nigga.
I'm married. Shout out to all the married niggas out there.
I learned from y'all. Y'all start to talk about it? Fuck all that refund shit.
I don't know what's from me. From you.
Yes, sir!
Yeah, man, we got 70 degrees in New York.
What the fuck they talking about?
Shout out to niggas with a clean car out there. We was on Friday.
We was on Friday. It was funny.
My wife was like, you notice that everyone out here is like a little bit older. Well, yeah, because we haven't been outside for months.
Like, we're not going outside in this fucking cold shit. Yeah.
Fuck that. We were outside this weekend, the olds.
Hey. All right, we got a great show lined up for you.
great show lined up for you today. Everybody go to their family reunion this year.
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Let's go.
Right, I told my baby moms, yeah, let's have that talk about the summer.
Give me my baby.
Yeah. Yeah, let's have that talk about the summer.
Give me my baby! Yeah! All right. Mel, what's up? You good? You ready? You ready? You ready? You ready? Ready.
You want to go get dressed? Hey! Viva! Mark, the camera's on, Mark. The camera's on.
I'm already on. I don't know.
The camera's on Mark The camera's on
The camera's on
I'm just telling you
It's six in these months
They work good
They work good
Watch yourself
Be careful now
It's seven
Alright
Alright I'm with y'all I'm with y'all I'm with y'all I'm with y'all Here we go Alright.
Alright, I'm with y'all, I'm with y'all, I'm with y'all. Here we go.
Shout out to the postal workers out there!
We got ring cameras, nigga. We can see you stealing the package.
They don't give a fuck at all.
Okay. Enough fun.
Enough fun. Enough fun.
Enough fun. Mike Shade, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.
Best in the world. quick man keep the applause going for the best crew in the universe fuck is they talking about the microphone check.
One, two, one, two.
One, two, one, two.
I feel like you're so nice and full.
You know what time it is.
Shout out to the first and last time listeners.
You know what we're here to do.
You know what we're here for.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored, smoke-free, fully dressed host.
What the fuck are they talking about?
What episode is this?
809.
809.
Welcome to episode 809.
Brought to you by, powered by, fueled by,
PriceBitch, PriceBitchGames.
Yeah.
All right, goddammit.
And the fucking most amazing crew in the world,
Thank you. It's Price Pitch Game.
Yeah. All right, god damn it.
And the fucking most amazing crew in the world, Minus Ish, out to our brother Ish, whoever the fuck he is. We should call him.
Getting right, yeah. We should call him.
Hopefully he's getting better. Hopefully that leg is getting right.
Some home-cooked food, huh? Some rest. He's getting some more.
I talked to him yesterday. He's still getting some.
He's increasing his range on it.
He's getting stronger.
He can take his time.
Take his time.
We want our brother to come back healthy.
True, he did.
And the payroll is lessened.
Applause for payroll being lessened for the month.
I'm sorry.
Stop.
Look at y'all.
You want some folks here, nigga? What's going on with you? Hey, we got to save up. It's tax time.
Shout out to everybody making observations. Yeah, you know I observed the motherfucker, nigga.
It is tax time. Get them receipts.
Get the receipts out. You got to pay quarterly, nigga.
That's the key. Oh, man, shit.
Nigga want to buy.
Nah, he ain't gonna say it.
Nah, he ain't gonna say it.
He ain't gonna say it.
You cool?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm happy to be here, champ.
All right, God damn it.
The best crew in the motherfucking world
to my right.
Y'all know the vibes.
Y'all know the name.
You know the face.
The beautiful, the intelligent,ucking world. To my right, y'all know the vibes.
Y'all know the name. You know the face.
The beautiful, the intelligent Melissa Ford.
Hey!
Big M Ford.
Hoody, hoody, whoo.
Next there.
I didn't know that they were saying that you paid for a doctorate.
I saw that yesterday.
Yeah, I don't care.
That's fucking insane.
It's funny.
I don't care.
How much does it cost?
Can I be mad for you?
You can, but it don't matter. How much would it cost to pay for a doctorate? I don't care Can I be mad for you? You can But it don't matter How much would it cost To pay for a doctorate? I don't know I never thought Cause Mel would go home Get that checkbook No Mel got the checkbook now Shit I would too Yeah man Right That's my thing So what nigga Shit I'm about to get A college degree or some shit What man Castallion got? She actually went to school.
She went to school. They all went to school.
Amber Rose went to College Hill. Everybody went to school.
Not College Hill. Hey, College Hill was giving out something at the end of that.
Certificates. Certificates.
Certificates. I can go somewhere and get me a degree or some shit.
You could probably get an honorary degree. They probably would.
That's what I'm saying. Certainly in broadcast media for sure.
I think Ramapo College. You'd probably get a doctorate for that.
Oh, I should get a gold jacket or that. If it's that, I'm getting a gold jacket.
St. Peter, look him out.
Jersey City. Any of them Jersey schools.
Oh, yeah. Rutgers.
Nigga Sam. Johnson.
I think you can get one. Rutgers, Newark.
Yeah, take care of you. Any New Jersey schools, huh? I could live in state I could live in state, huh? Nah, none of that New York shit, though Maybe Pace Oh my God Hilarious Shout out to Pace That was a shot Wow, man That was a shot No disrespect to Pace Yeah, you just college shamed That's crazy Damn it That's crazy It's a university See, I've been depressed for other people's stories, too.
Like, I was staring at my little brothers over the weekend.
Like, I ain't even, I've been, like, empath depressed.
Like, I'm staring at my two little twin brothers who about to go to college.
One can't wait to get the fuck out of that house.
The one with the little girlfriend, he can't wait.
He want to get far away.
The other one want to stay.
And I'm standing at them like,
wow, man,
you guys just been in your room for 17 years.
The first time
you're about to be split up
away from your fucking brother.
My fucking stepkids
about to go to college.
Twins in the house
the whole time.
Oh, yeah.
Now you're just going to school
separating from the nigga
that I've been staring at
my whole fucking life.
That's rough. That's sad.
That is kind of rough. I would be sad about that.
I bet you for twins it's even worse.
That's what I'm saying.
I almost cried looking at these little bastards.
Is they definitely going to different schools?
Yeah. Local or?
The scholarships start coming in for different
schools for different kids and it's like
yo I'm gone. I'm going over
here now. Local? That shit said he right.
For one. For one.
Niggas get the fuck out of there. Anyway, sorry.
What we on? What we on? We did the intro, right? We did. Oh, no, Dr.
Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Did not pay for the doctorate.
Fuck is you niggas talking about out there next to him? The queensiest of them all. Queens split.
Queens get the money. It's in the building.
Freeze is here. Elizabeth's finest.
Y'all know the vibes. Mr.
Money total, Freeze. Hey! Mr.
Take It Further. Big Parks is in the building.
Paul is here. Corey is here.
Ian is here. Erickson is here.
If Ian is here, that means Keeb is here somewhere.
Savon and Tanner are here by Remote Labs.
But certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
All right, what's poppin'?
What's good?
What's poppin'?
What's poppin'?
What's poppin'?
What's going on?
How's everybody weekend?
Great.
You know niggas always.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I was outside a little bit.
I had a good time.
What'd you do?
Shake your ass a little bit?
It was more of a bar hop than an ass shake. Hey, that's good.
All right, all right. Yeah.
Good bar hop. More of a hop.
Yeah, it was a good bar hop. It was a good bar hop.
Ended up at this really weird Irish bar that was- St. Patrick's Day weekend.
Well, we did that too, but this was Friday. Oh, okay.
This was a preemptive St. Patrick's Day.
I didn't even know that shit until the news came on this morning. I ain't going to lie to you.
Facts. It was a little quiet out there last week.
That's how in the house I've been. It was a little quiet out.
But we went out and had a little corned beef cabbage Guinness, you know me? Well, I did. She had whatever she had.
But it was fun. We had a good time this weekend.
Corned beef cabbage and beer? That's right. Now I was farting all the time.
My bathroom would be a shambles next to me. Jesus.
I woke up to my first. Like damn that's me Damn Fox I'm bad What's that smell? Oh shit it's me What's that smell? I know what you're talking about Fox Thatox.
That shit is nasty. Sure, let's be three million listeners.
He's crying. He's fucked up.
You was outside ice? No, no, not at all. In the house.
I stayed in the house all weekend. Binging TV shows.
Saying I'm old. Yeah.
I went to a middle school basketball game.
That was it.
I may have been warned once
to not yell at the refs.
They were asking for it.
The refs?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
you just can't not call a walk.
They went middle school.
I'm sorry,
they were nine.
Yo, what?
Nine year olds, bro?
They're not going to call a walk.
Yeah, but you got to call them both.
I was like,
Ian called me in the middle of the game.
I was like,
yo, I'm at the game.
I said,
these refs are fucking up.
Thank you. nine.
Yo, what? Nine-year-olds, bro? They're not going to call a walk-off. Yeah, but you got to call them both.
I was like, Ian called me in the middle of the game. I was like, yo, I'm at the game.
I said, these refs are fucking up. He's like, don't get kicked out of a little kid game.
I didn't get kicked out per se. That would be embarrassing.
But I did get a warning. I got a stern warning.
One more time, we're going to have to ask you to leave. My thing is just call the double dribble.
No. No.
They're not. They can barely handle the ball.
They're not going to learn. That's the best part about youth athletics, though.
Like, acting a fool at the game. Yeah.
It is. Yeah.
We was jumping up and down, screaming. My man ran out the door.
You know what I mean? When the game gets tight, it's fun. It's fun to watch.
Especially if it's like a bunch of white families there. Oh, yeah.
That's what it was. We were the black section.
Yeah. Yeah.
There you go. Yeah.
Yeah. Especially if it's like a bunch of white families there.
Oh, yeah. That's what it was.
We were the black section. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah. Yeah.
Signs and the pom-poms and all that stuff. Act a full ass out there.
Yeah. Only me.
Get them a little nervous. Just a little.
Honey, watch them. And take a while at the food truck.
And just stand there asking Mac, what you got? Yeah.
What'd that come with?
Man ignorant.
Man ignorant, nigga.
Let me get everything.
Somebody starts, no, you good?
Let me get everything on it.
In fact, give me another hot dog.
You want one?
Yeah.
Fuck them.
Give them a hard time.
We walk in front of them.
I don't give a fuck.
Your people be having some nerves, yo.
They talk out of time.
Go St. Patrick's Day, man.
I forgot about St. Patrick's Day, too.
Yeah, nah, me too. It used to be lit when I was doing it.
It was a Monday. It's a rough day for a holiday.
The news this morning. Especially a drinking holiday.
Came on, they started showing you the St. Patty's Parade.
See, that added to my depression, too. I forgot about that.
That added to my depression, too. I'm seeing these niggas, they like, this is the longest tenured parade.
It's been here. We've held this here for hundreds of years.
I'm like, so let me get this straight. Everybody get a parade.
Except for some niggas. No, that's not true.
What parade we got? They got the African-American parade in Harlem. They got the shit up there in Brooklyn.
Right before Labor Day. They got that shit.
Hold on, they got the Labor Day parade. They got the African-American parade in Harlem.
They got the shit up there in Brooklyn. West Indian Day Parade.
Right before Labor Day. All right.
West Indian Day Parade. They got that shit.
Hold on. They got the Labor Day Parade.
They got the Dominican Day Parade. They got the Puerto Rican Day Parade.
They got the African-American Day Parade. I should be like in a neighborhood.
Yo, what are y'all talking about? The African-American Day Parade. We got Harlem Week.
We got Harlem Week. The African-American Day Parade.
It don't be broadcast as much. It ain't on TV.
It ain't park. Hey, let me tell y'all niggas in Brooklyn something.
You know where y'all go? Watch yourself. Hey, let me tell y'all.
Y'all got about maybe one more of those up there before they pull the plug. They've been saying that for years.
I know. I know what they're saying.
And every year they don't do it. Somebody gets shot.
Kill more niggas. Since I was 17.
Since I was 17 years old. There's not more people that die, Joe.
I was there. I was there last year.
So it's getting safer. Flip, I'm not from one of...
A shooting to me is as bad as a murder. Like if a nigga lived, the fact that you shot...
I got you. The fact that you shot at...
All these people here, y'all are shooting. Oh my God, on day line.
All right,
enough on day line.
But the girl
and her roommate,
the girl's ex came in
and shot both of them
in the head.
They lived.
The roommate,
the bullet got stuck
in a place
where it kept her alive
the whole time.
Oh.
She didn't bleed out.
She laid there for nine hours.
The cops came
and got her to a hospital.
She lived. Good for her.
Shit. So she come into court about to testify.
Oh shit. broke she didn't bleed out she laid there for nine hours the cops came and got her to a hospital she lived
good for her
so she come into court
about to testify
oh shit
don't laugh
aw man
she was a little
like she's having to
Mr. M.
Pastor
right here
alright
no but she testified
and she forgave him
and she handed him a bible
he still went to jail
but
but he had a bible to go with
right
he has to read material
she came in different
Thank you. and she forgave him and she handed him a Bible.
He still went to jail. But he had a Bible to go with.
Right. He has to read material.
She came in different. Good for her.
Well, yeah. Forgiveness.
She's a little different now. Okay.
But her speech is fine. Okay.
Her eye is a little... Wonky.
Yeah. That's to be expected.
And she's going to use one arm now. Shit.
But she's a lot. Yeah.
Shout out to her. Shout out to her.
Look at the bright side. All right.
Come on now. What are we talking about? I'm all over the place.
What are we doing? What are we doing? What's important? Since we talk about living and dying, you came in here and had me think Mariah Carey was dead. Oh, my God.
You made my heart stop. You're not going to walk that one in at all, huh? Is that a bad place to start? I'm rolling.
No, let's go. No, go ahead.
He's like, all this shit was on the board. First of all, all y'all was somber.
He wearing black, you wearing black, you wearing black. I'm thinking I missed some shit because I had some emergency today.
I come in, you're like, write the Mariah tribute on the board. I'm thinking Mariah died and got hit by a bus or something.
Mariah Carey is not anywhere near a bus. What happened to Mariah? She doesn't even know buses exist.
We were talking about the real. How it saw it is that we were talking about the shade that Mariah displayed against Money Long while she was performing Mariah's song.
So we were talking about tributes and who accepts and who's receptive to tributes, who has done a great tribute to a person that might still be alive or might have passed away. So that's how the conversation with Mariah happened.
And so one of the good examples was Dionne Warwick and Luther Vandross. I brought that up, yeah, and then I played it.
Because she seemed to be very moved by it. Wait, hold up.
We're speaking. Hold up for two seconds, because you're all about to make us sound like we had sense during that talk.
Oh, no, then we went off the reservation. Well, I finally started having sense.
Why are you going to fuck my shit up? I'm finally starting to do good, nigga. Because we're coming back.
We're going to come right back to We're coming right back. Save this sensible moment that you're about to add.
No, you can do it. You can do it.
You can do it. Save this sensible moment.
We'll put a pin in it. We started with telling brother Mark that That's you.
Because when I go to sleep early now,
I got to put it on.
He's depressed.
When niggas depressed,
they want all type of recognition and acknowledgement from their loved ones.
He wait for it.
Did you text me?
You text me?
He asked for the text.
Yo, I missed your text.
Fucking dad, wife,
got in a car accident.
Oh my God.
Is she okay?
Is she all right?
I know how he feels
because I get like this.
She's all right.
He's not wrong.
You just start to look at shit around you. Yeah.
You look at your kids. He's right.
He called this morning with how much the insurance will put on the rent-a-car. Nigga, I knew that yesterday.
Hey, when you called yesterday, I knew that they only had $50 for you a week for that rent-a-car. That's not just $30 a day.
It's a day. You're lying.
It's $50 a week. I heard black people go through this beef for years about what the insurance company is willing to put on your rent-a-car.
$30 a day. It depends on your policy.
The insurance company clearly don't have a been to the rent-a-car place. They don't get a rent-a-car.
They want you to get the key in. $30 to get it done, right? What you don't realize is what that $30 gets you.
Niggas always want to go to the rental and get the fly shit. Yeah, no, nigga.
That's $70 a day, nigga. I didn't even know the rental had other plates, other joints.
Oh, what? We want the fly shit, nigga. Now you get a little bullshit.
Nigga, you get a Hellcat down here. He's right.
They got the shit there. That shit like, so they cover the $30 and you pay the rest.
Yeah, you play the difference. Wait.
So when I go rent a car when I go down south somebody does it for me so they reserve the fly shit. But when I get there and they start naming the fly shit I don't be knowing what it is no more.
Like when they name the BMW we got the X such and such and such I make them take me to go see it. So I could get eyes on these motherfuckers.
But anyway, back to Mariah. Mariah, Mariah.
Gotcha, yes. The legend.
We tell Mark to write Mariah tribute on the board. Mark says, oh my God, I thought she died.
I was about to be, oh my God, so fucked up and horrible. Oh, I was about to.
He said that. Which led into a, oh shit, you was about to be that fucked up if Mariah died.
Hell yeah. Conversation.
I would have as well. Somewhere in that.
And I don't like this. I feel like we got to knock on wood.
Knock on wood. We love Mariah.
Somewhere in that, somebody brought up who Mariah was dating. Rumored to be dating.
Rumored. Rumored to be dating.
And then Mark said. A bunch of hate.
A lot of hate. You asked me what I thought about that.
I had chance. Because I said, damn.
I said, I didn't know I had a shot all that time. I didn't even hear that, but that's why they were laughing? Yeah.
He said, you let Terry ball? Yeah, so I just want y'all to know how ignorant we've been Oh and then Ian chimed in To say that He would never touch Mariah But I'm not I don't disagree with him Some people no matter how good they look There's something about them that can make you say I'm not attracted to this person no matter how famous they are But that's not what he said He said she's too old, basically. No, he did not say that.
Yes, he did.
He's right there.
He did.
He said that I would not
fuck Mariah Carey.
She said she fell off.
He said she fell off.
Yes.
He literally said she fell off.
That means she's too old
or she's not in the condition
she would be to meet
Ian Standard & 6.
She's not primed no more.
With superstars.
And then Joe said,
which sounds as ridiculous
now as it did before.
Joe told Ian,
you tried to fuck the up-and-coming singer.
Ian's face turned red and said, who?
Put a name on it.
Put a name on it.
Who are you talking about?
They already on my shit list.
I ain't got time for no more fucking Ian shenanigans.
Who knew?
Which one?
Put a name on the bullet.
He's trying to think.
You can't just throw shit out there like that on that man. It's playing.
You know, waitresses in this capital room. I could have thrown my name, but I wouldn't have done that.
It might not be appropriate now. Listen, some people, some of you can see.
Yeah, that would be tactless. The older that they get, oh, not saying Mariah.
Mariah's beautiful. I think she's amazing.
But some of you see, you lose that attraction to them. Look, people be full of, this is what I'm saying.
Niggas be full of shit. Niggas be full of shit.
Did you think, this is my only question, you didn't think you had a shot at Mariah before? No, because who would? How could you do that so much? Yeah. You do that so much.
She put a cape on, nigga. Wonder Woman.
And then it makes it seem like I'm suppressing you when I ain't. Wonder Woman, take your shit off, yo.
I'm cornering your man. You know what I mean? Okay, okay, okay.
When I was single, I liked my chances with just about everybody. There we go.
There we go. With a very small list.
Come on. Big Mark.
Talk that shit. There we go.
Who you thought you couldn't get when you were single? Gotta be somebody to think. Brad Carey.
Halle Berry? She like you smart niggas. You probably would have.
I never thought about her in that way. See? No, not me put that No no no that's not what I mean Never thought about her She is attractive Wow I never saw that No that's not what I mean I've been friends with two people that she's dated Pretty good friends with one of them them.
Got it. She's in the category of, like, that's my man's girl.
So I just didn't think about, like, having a shot. I mean, I don't think about having a shot.
Or. I didn't know you could put bullshit on bullshit, but.
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you got to double up.
See how effective it is? See how effective that shit is? All right. You got it.
Flip on bullshit. All right, Flip, go ahead and be sensible with this Mariah tribute.
No, wait, hold on, hold on. Before we get into that, listen.
There's some women out here, some celebrity women, that some niggas could say no to. I don't like how y'all was on Ian.
All you guys attacked the poor man. And if he says, yo, he's not poor.
If he says, yo, look, listen, guys, I am not attracted. I wouldn't sleep with her.
You guys are supposed to respect that. I didn't like what you guys did.
There's too much of that going on. You have to call your friends out when they're lying.
Yeah, sometimes we know niggas lying, though. How do you know he's lying? Because I've never hung out with Ian one day in my life, and I guarantee you he's had at least three nights of very unmemorable,
regrettable, fuck mid, I ain't talking about mid, below mid.
Below, Reggie.
So, but we all have mid and Ari at one point in my life.
But Mariah carries the line.
If he would catch some of them boys in the sauna slipping, then I think Mariah has a
shot.
Catch some of the who?
Wait, wait, what happened?
The boys.
Hold up.
The boys.
The fuck?
Ian, what you was into? Because me and Ian talk on FaceTime every morning, but as soon as he get in the sauna, it's time to hang up. And I know what that sauna is.
I know what them sauna clubs is about. Yo, stop.
Oh, man. So I'm just saying, if some of the sauna niggas could catch him slipping, I think Mariah.
Mimi got a shot.
Let me ask you a question.
She can get it done.
Let me ask you a question.
To me, shout out to Mariah.
I mean, a lot of people changed their like for Mariah when she started dating our brother Nick.
And I fuck with Nick Cannon.
I think he fly.
He get old.
Shout out to Nick.
But I remember a lot of people saying that online, and they didn't really know how Nick give it up.
He gets him.
But the optics of it was, nah, man, she fucked with that nigga. She fell off.
Which was not the case, because niggas don't know how Nick gave it up. He gets him.
But the optics of it was nah man she fucked with that nigga. She fell off.
Which was not the case because niggas don't know how Nick carried. So we're ignorant like that.
Yeah. I gotta pitch myself for Wild'n Out nigga.
I gotta pitch for Wild'n Out. I'm almost out.
You are Wild'n Out. I gotta solidify my spot.
Whoa. Whoa.
You want to stop. Oh, my God.
No razz. No razz.
But yeah. Anyway, let's move on.
Okay? Well, Mariah and the Money Long tribute. Where was that? That was the I Heart Awards.
Yeah, I don't know. It was one of them shits.
I was saying that. One of them shits that we don't know about.
It just pop up on Twitter. I was saying that Mariah threw shade at Money Long, and then I asked the question.
But where was that? That was the N-A-A-C-C Awards. She was in the Billboard or the iHeart.
The Nickelodeon Awards, right? Nigga, that shit's not even around no more. The Nickelodeon Awards.
The VMAs, baby. Lifetime Achievement Award.
I don't know. Okay, so wait.
One of them shits. Why do you say that she threw Shea? Her face, when she was singing, her facial expressions wasn't in it unless she was too pleased.
Yes, it was the iHe I Heart Music Awards. The I Heart Music Awards.
She didn't look pleased. So then the next question I asked, I said.
Jay looked like she woke herself up with a fart. Like, it was a bad thing.
And then Corey proceeded to tell me that Prince was also. Wait a second, yo.
All right, nah. Wait.
All right. I was looking for a way to be on Money Longside you can't shade me at the I Heart Awards excuse me are you fucking crazy are you fucking nuts no that's where you shade that's where you shade you brought me you brought me out of my fucking castle I don't need to come out now.
You heard what Nick told us. She don't leave the house.
How much it costs money to leave the house? A quarter million for her to leave the house? This is respectfully, with all due respect, because there's many people in that I Heart building that I love and fuck with, so I'm not trying to be shady. If I get a tribute at the I Heart Awards, that's like me going on a roller coaster at the fair.
I expect for the toothless nigga
down there to leave me
up here elevated for longer
than I'm supposed to be.
I would expect for my tribute at the
I Heart Awards to not be
so grandiose.
What are you talking about?
Don't call double dribble. That's like Imani calling foul, offensive foul in our street ball game.
Are you nuts, though? Off the wall foul, by the way. I'm all with Mariah being a diva, and I know that the divas can't cut off being a diva, so you bring you wherever you go.
But you at the fucking I Heart Awards, yo. Stop it.
Stop it. Just hilarious to be up here doing your fucking tribute.
Yo. What the fuck, yo? I'm just saying it.
You know they caught Mariah and told her who was doing the tribute. They gave her the whole shit to get her out of her bed.
And I don't think Money Long Money Long is dope I don't know that So Money Long is dope I think this sus one Could have just called Mariah Like Mariah's fly With a few niggas That we know Not to pop out though I could be fly with you Now you asking me To bring my And she might be cool With Jewish niggas That run IRA I'm sure She might own a piece of IRA We don't know none of that We don't know none of her business but if you get here and the fucking tribute is not so diamonds and pearls nah stop it I'm not going to let you do this when you big up Prince for doing the same thing exactly nigga and I'm not going to let y'all do that I knew one of y'all was going to say that so for one prince has made it publicly clear to all to the whole field i'm against tributes i'm not sure that mariah hasn't either prince has said it so before he died niggas knew it didn't really matter who was doing the tribute he didn't want a tribute so the fact that y'all kept doing a tribute against his will was like okay and now that we have the footage of seeing him shade people at the tribute like we understand he don't want that and that's prince and trey songs is up there fucking that song up ruining that fucking song he was he was i don't think money long was doing a horrible job she She was not. A little bit cheap to someone who was like That's part of the diva shit though.
Hold on. But you can't be disparaging.
Ain't nobody going to do a good enough You can't shave me at the fucking hardcore shit. The question that I had earlier was You out your mind.
What artist was satisfied with their tribute song or tribute performance that was dedicated to them? No one good. And then I said...
DJ Cassidy. No, then I said...
Then I said Dionne Warwick was happy when Luther performed a tribute to her because she was extreme. She was crying.
Yes. And then Corey was like, well, that's Luther.
And it's also personal. They're friends anyway.
No, no. Luther bodied it, bro.
Don't try to say that's Luther. He killed that shit.
He did, but they also had a very strong personal relationship very strong personal relationship right like they did so this was like seeing her like little mentee rise to fame it's also Luther fucking Vandross yes if they didn't have a personal relationship you'd think that she would be as receptive she might not have been crying she might have liked it it's hard to hear somebody else do your song you know what I mean and always love it you know what I mean I've seen people do Aretha Aretha keeps a steady face yeah she be tight but Aretha's just like Madonna did that shit she ain't like but Madonna did that shit the fans got at Madonna for doing an Aretha Franklin tribute I looked up she should not do that I don't remember that and she shouldn't have done that right some tributes are good obviously Bob Marley wasn't allowed for his tribute but the Rita Rita Marley the IT all of them, all of them loved some of the renditions. They loved Lauren doing Turn Your Lights Down Low.
Yes, they did, yes. They loved Erica and Ziggy Marley doing their joint.
They loved Queen Latifah doing No More Trouble. There's some people who did it well.
Nigga, Michael, I was telling Ice that Michael got up and performed his own tribute, nigga. He saw Usher and What's Her Name doing it.
He's like, yo, get up. Whitney bodied it.
When Whitney came out, one of we started something, when he came out, she bodied it. But when he saw that shit, he said, let me get up.
My brother's is doing a hardball job. Let me get up here and turn up.
What is that part, too? Tribute should improve. They should.
Tribute should improve. But who do you put, like, how do you choose a person to do a tribute? Like today? They can't do the song.
You want to get names
that are going to
attract viewership.
Exactly.
And a lot of these
motherfuckers can't sing.
They can't sing.
And they can't sing
to the songs
that they trying to
do.
And then there's also
mismatches because even
in like hip hop,
I forgot who it was.
There's been a couple
occasions like Lupe
with Tribe or something.
There was someone else
that did, I forgot.
I forgot the words.
Didn't know like the
Biggie song or whatever
it was.
I forgot what it was. That's bad.
I said the hip, hop, the hip, the hip. I've seen Fantasia do...
Fantasia did Patti well. Yeah.
And that's like her niece. Again, that's a love thing.
But also she's got that register. Yeah, she's got the register and the range for that.
Yeah, and they both like to holler. They both hit notes, but holler.
It's a style thing. It's a good fit.
That was Rich Homie Kwan. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. Yeah, that was bad.
And even thinking of that, why? That was a bad match. I agree with Joe.
Y'all need to update the tribute. You need to update their talent.
Find somebody, nigga. Find somebody from America's Got Talent or something like that.
Somebody that's going to put up a soul and passion. They go for star power instead of, like, actual match.
There's some people out there on those shows that will body a tribute. Absolutely.
You know what I'm saying? Come on, bro. They can't sell.
Now, again, it's business. We can't sell that to the advertisers.
Right. But we can sell, I got this name, this name, this name, this name.
I got Trace Hall doing Prince. Yeah.
And I got the person that they doing the tribute to sitting here in the crowd. That's what they selling.
I forgot what I was watching where they tried the Stevie Wonder tribute recently. Yeah.
Let me look it up. That was really, really bad.
It was so bad, I was like, yo, Stevie right there, go get him. Bring him to the stage.
Y'all let him perform at every other damn thing he shouldn't be performing at. I think Janelle Monae was a part of that tribute.
Yes, she was. She was at the end of that.
That was 2015. Janelle Monae was in a bunch of them.
Yeah.
She just has to do it.
I think you've got to have an ear for what sounds like.
Remember when...
Look, we hot about this.
When Babyface...
Remember when Babyface did his Tiny Desk
and he had people sing the songs that he wrote?
He didn't match stars.
He matched voices.
He did.
He had Shantae Moore singing Superwoman.
That was perfect. She might have even improved on the Karen White version I love Karen White's version right they had somebody do Can We Talk they had Tank sing Tank can sing his fucking face off Tank can sing anybody under the table Tank should be doing these tributes like get the voices that match you know what I mean even if they're not the hottest name on the you know at the top of the billboard right today get legends or get people who can sing great I think they just want to piss the legends off.
That's it. But Joe, you never answered your own question.
Which was? Who would get you on the ground crying the way you said I was for Mariah? If somebody died. Yeah, that's where the conversation went.
Oh, we never even got to that point. Yeah, who would be the people that would get y'all doing that? Oh yeah, because I didn't know.
I was saying to Mark and clearly the room is against me on this, which I'm fine with.
I was saying I didn't know that Mariah Carey was at that level to where black men were saying, oh, if something happened to her, I would be totally distraught.
Right?
Like, I was saying I thought that was reserved for, like, the legacy, legacy acts.
And I guess she is. She is.
She is.
She is in the game.
She is.
Thank you. I would be totally distraught I was saying I thought that was reserved for the legacy legacy acts and I guess she is she is in the game more than that I don't look at her like a legacy act right now she has the number one song every year she's still visible we still see her we don't hear her because she's a diva but I I mean...
I mean, she is a legacy act. She's one of the top-selling acts of all time.
I thought it was reserved for our Stevie Wonders, the Mikes, the Princes, the fucking Anita Baker. I think she's in that category.
She's getting old, bro. The people who were crying for Luther and for even Michael, they were younger.
Michael was younger than Mariah is now, right? Yeah, he's 50. Yeah, Michael's 50.
Mariah got to be in the mid-50s. She's 57.
No, I understand what y'all are saying. And y'all are absolutely right.
I do just think Mark is a liar. No, but you never know.
Some of it is, I think. What was it that it that connected with you? Like, when was it? How many Mariah albums do you have? I bought, first of all, just like you, remember you said in sixth grade, you got Vision of Love.
Vision of Love. From there to the Emancipation.
I don't know anything after Emancipation and Mimi, but that was, I was grown as hell when that came out. So from there to there, I had every album.
I used to love that Dream Loving video. And if you stopped a career, that's a classic career.
Classic career, regardless.
Yeah, but I mean,
as a kid,
I had a crush on Mariah.
I mean, legend,
not classic,
but like legacy.
Yeah, she's the top of the top.
I mean, for me,
it would be her,
Janet Jackson.
There's a few people that would get me upset.
See, Janet Jackson, I get.
Yeah.
But you don't get Mariah?
They in the same class, bro.
I mean, y'all are helping me
to understand,
they are not in the same class.
Mariah said she didn't like the...
Wait a second.
Thank you. Wait.
Well, wait, what? No, he's saying Janet's higher. You're saying Mariah's higher.
I know what he's saying. I know what I'm saying.
I'm saying they're both at the top of the food chain. Nigga, Janet is high.
Stop it, Pops. Stop it.
I don't know what y'all are talking about now. Janet is, come on, stop it, Pops.
Where? But wait, is Janet, what are y'all measuring? Is Janet considered, is Janet considered higher by your standards because of the family that she's attached to? All that. Janet is, maybe Janet is considered higher by, I don't want to speak for all black people, but black people? Yeah not measuring music careers like you can have a great point Janet Jackson was in good times yeah for sure Janet Jackson is like an imprint an imprint from she was in different strokes of one of them I was talking music.
I'm talking about the family she comes from and how young she was when
we first saw her. And I loved them both,
by the way. Had a crush on both.
Mariah
popped up in fucking 91.
I get it. Which is a long time.
34 years ago. But that's very different
from 78. Understand what I mean?
I'm saying the same. It's like in the NBA,
right? Janet? No, Mariah.
But carry on. In the NBA, some people are max contract people, right? LeBron's a max guy.
AD is a max guy. They not the same.
But they both in that same top tier. That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying that when I talk about Mariah and I talk about Janet, there's a top tier people who I would be fucked up if they die. That don't mean they all the same in that same tier.
Got it, got it, got it. That's all I'm saying.
Got it. But not only that, you don't know what kind of impact that person's legacy and music had on you.
Like, it may not have the same impact on you that it would have on Mark. That's where the conversation was.
And this is where Joe is full of shit. The last episode of Patreon said he was in his mirror with a hairbrush singing Vision of Love in Someday in 6th grade.
That's the shit that should have you crying. But then we also morph.
It wasn't Someday for me. Which one was it? I said it was Love Takes Time.
Love Takes Time. Oh, yeah.
If you're saying that, yeah. But then the conversation morphed into who had an effect.
Someday was for the wife, Skyna. Who should have had an effect on you.
Shout out to all the queer youth out there. Go ahead.
Go ahead, Mel. No.
Then the conversation morphed into whose death would or has had an effect on you that may not have had the same effect on other people. Like, for me, it was people that we thought couldn't die.
For me, I'll give you two of mine. Anthony Bourdain and Philip Seymour Hoffman.
When I saw that they passed away, I felt like, really? I'm with you, but... Anthony Bourdain, I mean...
I just... I knew Anthony Bourdain.
We worked together. We shared that space sometimes.
I didn't cry. Flex if you want to.
No, no, I'm not flexing. I'm just saying like, I get, it was the suddenness of it.
That's why I'm talking about impact. It may not have had the same impact on you that him and his career had on me.
You know what I mean? That's fair. To me, he's like upper echelon of like storytelling and just presence and intellect and all the things.
Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of my like top three actors of all time. So I was very sad that I was never...
Is he black? Neither one is black. This guy, man.
So you're just naming white people in our talk? This guy, yo. Why you gotta be so racist? From Michigan Impossible.
They trying to record me speaking to my phone. Okay, let me ask.
Okay, all right, wait. How many of us were devastated? Look at who the fuck Mel is talking about.
How many of us were devastated when we heard Robin Williams died? Okay, thank you. Thank you.
I wasn't devastated. I was sad, though.
I was sad. Okay, maybe I'm putting...
That's what I'm saying. Anthony Bourdain was sad to me because of how he died.
But I was like... That too.
Wait a second. It's the tragedy.
Both of them were both tragedies. Yes, I was sad when Robin Williams died.
I was sad as well. Okay, well then...
Yes, I was devastated to learn that Robin Williams was home with his entire family, went up to a side room, tied some fucking knot in the fashion that he did and did this with his kids and wife in the house. That's devastating.
Okay. Anthony Bourdain, more of the same.
Did Philip Seymour Drummond self-transition? Philip Seymour motherfucking Hoffman. He passed away.
Don't do that. He died of a drug overdose because he had the same issues that Robin Williams had and the same issues that Anthony Bourdain had.
Accidentally. It's all tragic.
That's the point, is it's all tragic. These are people that you...
Did you cry? Yeah, I shed a tear. It bothered me.
It was really like... Were you in the bed like, I can't believe it.
No, I could move on with my fucking life. Last time I saw him, it was in Mission Impossible.
Yeah. Philip Seymour Hoffman.
And Melvin, get the fuck out of here with this. And he bodied that shit, though.
He's amazing. He bodied that shit.
Oh, he's a beast. Okay, yo, you guys know how I feel about actors.
Y'all know how I feel about actors. White actors.
Shut the fuck up. White fire.
You know. You guys keep that shit up, okay? I got a trouble with that.
I know you fucking did. Boy, name some more people.
Like, how many more names before we... Name a couple more people.
Same. And when Prince and Michael Jackson passed away, I was like...
I was sad. I had a very inconsolable day.
It was hard. I was sad about Mike.
Prince. Who left? Really? Who would fuck you up? Who would that? Bokane would buy.
Larry Davidson? Like the way I had that Mariah moment. You said Larry Davidson? Ho.
I got a list. Ho would be insane.
Ho would fuck me up. I don't fuck me up.
Long list. There's a lot of people.
It's a lot of people. Ho fucked me up.
But sometimes it's a circumstance. Joe will fuck me up.
Oh, shit.
I'll be like, yo, Ian, can I take the spot?
Five days.
Five days a week.
We can do this for my nigga Joe.
Joe will fuck me up.
Fuck your pockets up, right?
I wouldn't be able to move.
Hey, yo, Ian, what y'all do with that nigga cars,
yo?
Did he put my name down?
Now,
Joe, y'all ain't shit.
He brings you
into the will.
Oh, shit.
Now, Joe,
put me in something.
Wait,
put your name down where?
In the will.
That's what he's working towards no my will must be chump if that's what he's been working I feel like it's my job to make this be less morbid although I don't know if you We've been bugging. Please do.
Although I don't know if you're the best guy for the job, to be honest with you. So, something does need our attention.
All right, let's get it.
We got this.
And this is very important.
Sure.
Urgent, if you will.
Okay.
Prize picks can wait a second.
This is more important.
Always.
Oh, man.
All right.
Let's do it.
Seven o'clock on the day. I'm in my job time.
Let's do it. Huh? Yeah.
One more again for the people in the back. Whose? Yeah.
That was fucked up. That's Imani? That's hilarious.
That was Usher. No, this is Usher.
It's actually Usher. This is Usher.
He said oozing? This is Usher. And I'm going to play it one more time.
Play that again. Oozing the sheets? For the people in the back.
Seven o'clock in the day. I'm in my job time.
Who's in the street? Don't switch no lyrics on me now Who's in the street? That's not what he says Isn't that Usher? That is Usher I don't care who that is You forgot his words I don't know if that is It's Cruz in the street It's Cruz in the street I'm in my drop top Who's in the street? I get it But maybe we did have it wrong No we didn't Who's in the street? You're not going to make Della affect me. No, no, no.
He trying to T-Pain us. He trying to T-Pain us.
He saw T-Pain got it off, so he said, let me switch mine up to... Wait, what was T-Pain again? All I do is win.
No, not that one. It was that one too? So wait, what was it? What did he say it was? Everybody's hands go up and they stay there and they say yeah.
And it was... We was just saying and they stay there.
He's like, no, I say something else. Oh, he said yeah.
I don't give a fuck. No way on earth he's saying who's in the streets.
It's buy you a drink. That one too.
He had a couple of them. I'm going to tell you.
What you want to be in there, but give me 10 minutes. This one, ooh.
Man, where you at this time, man? Hold on, hold on. Working out at Bally's.
It's there. You can have it.
Yes. No, no, no.
He said the same thing for places. Usher went back and redid some of these shits too.
Look at Joe. He went back and redid some of these shits too.
You can hear the new vocals. Holy shit.
I ain't rolling. It's hard to tell with that little swoop sound right there.
I'm not rolling. He got us, Joe.
No, he didn't. He got us.
It's hard to tell with the little swoopy. No, he got us, boss.
Fuck out of of here You don't got the acapella button on your shit? Yeah turn the Drop the meat out Drop the meat? The meat Yo Whoa The meat I am a product of my environment It's 7 o'clock on the dot I'm in my drop top Who's in the streets Hard to tell with a little sweepy sweep Yeah that sweepy sweep is fucking it up No that nigga is saying Who's in the streets He is because you with a little sweepy sweep. Yeah, that sweepy sweep is fucking it up.
No, that nigga is saying who's in the streets. He is because you're not hearing the...
He's saying who's in the streets? It sounds a little like a cruise to me too. I hear what you...
The hard C, hard R, it's not really there. He'd have to be like, who's in...
Yeah, it's a soft C. He's doing a soft C.
He shouldn't be trying to correct nothing in 2025. Yo, listen.
I think he should. I'm fighting this.
Yo, invite this. Who's in the street is mad thirsty while you in your drop-top on a hot summer day at 7 o'clock.
Nigga, why you wasn't cruising? Cruising is the fly braggadocious I'm in my drop-top at 7 o'clock. I'm talking about who outside.
Where you at? Where is that? Because look at the next lyrics right after that. I'm in my drop top.
Who's in the streets? Well, if you don't sing along with it. Who's in the streets? I got a real pretty, pretty little thing that's waiting for me.
Nah. That don't even go with who's in the streets.
I'm looking for who's in the streets because I got this weight on me. Get the fuck out of here.
I mean, he's collecting. Sorry, buddy.
Who wrote this song? Sorry, buddy. Can we ask somebody? Hey, yo, listen.
This might be a... Let me see.
You got an older version? No, this might be an official Ocfell. Let's see.
Here we go. Tell me what you want to do with me.
You got a high for me already, baby. Now this is really disturbing this is really disturbing us yeah nah this is pissing me off cause this is the worst one of all of them give me two minutes be ready Usher full shit this is my Usher sexy voice with a little thing I like hey baby tell me what you wanna do with me it's 7 o'clock on the dot I'm in my drop top cruising the street thank you thank you fuck out of here Alright there we go We heard it Sorry Usher You're fucking wrong Usher just trying To get some talk going Usher tried it He did That's all It worked It worked cruising the streets Look at that one little thing That'll give us time I don't know what it is Let me do something else Yo listen Listen T-Pain And buy you a Drink, it was, and the real lyrics was, and then I'm going to take you home with me, but we thought it was ooh wee.
I'm going to take you home with me. It is ooh wee.
No, it's not. It's definitely ooh wee.
It's and then. No, that's corny.
He said it. He clarified it.
How do you mix up and then with ooh wee? He's wrong. Because of how he said it.
It's two different mouth sounds. And then ooh-wee.
Oh, please, please. It's ooh-wee.
I'm gonna buy you a drink. And then you know that feeling you get? Ooh-wee.
When somebody buys... Yeah, you know.
You know the ooh-wee. Hot, man.
So hot. A sun peek out and melt on all that.
So hot, yeah, girl.
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All right. We got Sixers OKC.
The Sixers is still a thing. They're like Dallas East.
You said OKC? Yeah. Give me everybody on OKC then if they play in Philly.
Give me all of them. Don't forget about Quentin Grimes though.
He He's been lighting it up lately. Yeah, I'm so mad that we gave him to Dallas and then Dallas gave him to y'all.
And I'm so mad he keeps scoring. Well, he went to Detroit somewhere in there, too, I think.
But Quentin Grimes, all right. He's fucking up the plan right now.
Paul George, we trying to be losing now, and now they want to win. Actually, you know what? Mark is right.
I will take Quentin Grimes. Because he ain't going to stop no time.
Give me Quentin. Yeah, he can really shoot.
Give me Quentin Grimes because he ain't going to stop no time.
He can really shoot.
Give me Quentin Grimes for more than 20?
Yeah, more than 20 points.
Give me
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24 points.
What else?
Give me some more.
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We play the Spurs. Away games.
Yeah, I know. Give me Cat.
Yeah. Give me Cat.
No Wimby. Wimby killed us.
I was at that game in the garden. Give me Cat for more than four boards.
He don't be rebounding enough for me. Give me Cat for more than 18 points.
All right. And the last one I'll give you, Nuggets-Lakers.
Nuggets-Lakers. I'm telling you, I really do like the Lakers in the conference final.
Against Golden State? I don't know if Golden State gets there. I like the Lakers to get there.
And I think I saw Steve and they say that the wildest finals matchup would be the Lakers versus Cleveland with LeBron trying to stop Cleveland from getting a championship. That would be amazing.
That's so that's great. So interesting.
It's great TV right there. That'd be amazing.
That's super interesting. Give me Austin Reese for more than 18 points.
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All right, what else we got to break down?
That's important.
All of that music shit sounds boring to me.
I ain't gonna lie.
It does.
I don't care about none of it.
Let me see.
What do I have here that could be interesting?
Could be interesting.
Okay. interesting could be interesting uh okay and in uh everything is on camera news nowadays mel said something funny but before mel said something funny somebody else sent it to me so i had already synced it okay but then i seen something else and i think it was this girl from portland got in a fight wherever she was from this girl got in a fight and she got the brakes beat off her was fucking this girl up but in the process she dropped her key fob okay so the girl she beat up took the key fob and apparently they know each other and went to her house
and ransacked the whole crib
and taped it.
Oh, shit.
She fucked that house up.
Broke the TV.
The loser of the fight.
Everything.
The loser of the fight.
Which made me want to ask y'all
which one you would rather be
in that equation.
The girl that got beat up. I'd rather be the person beating up.
Getting beat up? No. Oh, the one, the aggressor.
The aggressor, yeah. Okay.
I'll get beat up before you ruin my whole house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been the other person already that had walked in the house and saw your shit fucked up. Wait.
So, yeah, I'll take the other side. You're saying it wrong.
You're saying it's a little but ain't so bad. Yeah, I'm going to take the other side.
You said you'll be the who? I said, I'll get beat up before I allow my entire house to be ransacked. The person got beat up was the one that destroyed the house.
Yeah, that's the thing. She got beat up, picked up the key fob, and said, okay.
I know, I'm saying I'd rather beat up. Rather than having his house destroyed, he would rather get beat up.
The choices are between getting your ass beat and getting your house ransacked. I thought he was talking about the outcome.
The outcome of the entire situation. It's not the same situation.
The girl that got beat up is the one who ransacked the house. Not the one that beat up.
I know that. Would you rather get beat up and have a chance to go destroy somebody's house or would you rather beat somebody up and have your house destroyed it? I'm confused why this is confusing.
No, it's not. You know he said it wrong, right? All right.
Thank you, man. There's Alice and Betty.
No, don't do that. Alice beat Betty's ass.
Betty even went to Alice's house and tore it down. Do you want to be Alice or do you want to be Betty? He said, I'd rather...
Nigga, stop fucking being on the side. I'm not on the side.
He said, I'd rather get beat up than have my house destroyed. And that's the same...
Exactly. The person that got beat up destroyed the house.
So how would you rather get beat up than get destroyed? Okay, wait, y'all. Wait, because y'all sound...
But if you're talking about the scenario... No, I'm not done.
If you're talking about the scenario that's at hand... Listen to me, because we're sounding like too off now.
Like, it ain't that deep. This is like the little meme I seen.
Somebody was in Jersey City. These guys are crazy.
And they was pointing the camera at people. And it was like, yo, James' grandson is my son.
Who is James to me? Yo, that shit fucked up. We were so confused.
So I feel like this is one of those moments right now. I'm saying, you're right and Mark is right.
I'm saying I would rather get beat up than have my house ransacked. The winner of the fight got her house ransacked.
The loser of the fight ransacked the house. I'm picking to lose the fight versus having my house be ransacked.
He didn't switch it. He just said which person in this scenario would it be? It's cool.
Anyway, I have a question. It's seven fucking apples.
Are you at that trolling for real? No. There are seven people in this room.
We all understand it.
Is it possible we're on the right side of this?
I have a question.
That's not true.
You're picking.
You're being whoopily or two.
Seven people did not agree.
Three did.
Raise your hand if you agree
that what he's saying makes sense,
whether you agree with him or not.
It makes sense now.
It makes sense now.
It always made sense.
Yes.
The entire time it made sense.
Okay.
Nah, nah.
Go back and watch
it's okay
it's fine
nah nah
I'm getting up
I'm moving
I have one question
I'm not gonna allow him
or you to do that
on camera
it's going to change
the energy in this room
y'all both being
playing around
and I'm going to get up
and take a break
sit down over there
and I'm gonna come back
when I call
cause I don't wanna
mess up the show
cause in my mind
I'm gonna put it in my brain
that y'all played with me
and I'm going to look
for opportunity
to play with both of y'all
so what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna take a step
over there
I'm going to put it in my brain that y'all played with me and I'm going to look for opportunity to play with both of y'all. Whoa.
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to take a step over there as an adult, sit to myself and count to 10. Do a box of breath.
Because it's definitely an adult move. Do a box of breath.
I just want to point out. Self-imposed timeout.
Yeah, he took my... Oh, sorry.
That is the adult thing to do when we can't agree on the hypothetical. Go take some time.
Go take a time. One thousand.
Two thousand. Four thousand.
Go sit alone to yourself. Do the math.
And look, Mel was down with you. She left you hanging too.
No, I was like, do a box breath. You'll be fine.
A what? A box breath. Like Navy SEALs.
On to part two of way too much is caught on camera. In for four, out for four.
In Newark, New Jersey, the pimp parked his car outside the Catholic church. And punched the pastor? Yeah.
And walked in and punched the pastor. And the shit that I saw, it was just a headline that said, yo, pimp punches the pastor over some unpaid debt.
So I was like, bet. I was satisfied.
I skipped that one. I was satisfied with that.
So then a video started playing. And I said, no, they did not record the nigga.
Well, they record church. Yeah, but they, I was saying in my head, they better not show that to me.
Oh, no. They said't.
And sure enough. Money walked up there smooth, too.
Smooth and a white. People didn't even touch the ground.
White, so in an Easter outfit. He was there 30 minutes before the trip started.
Yes, way in the middle. And what was funny is there was a cop behind him the whole time.
There was. Trying to go get to him.
Trying to get to him to stop. He boop bopped that guy.
The guy ran to the side.
I'm like,
all right,
y'all don't think we have access
to too much now.
Yes, we do.
We should not be
seeing these things.
Yes.
No, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't be
seeing these things.
We shouldn't be hearing
everybody's thoughts either.
Facts.
Or reading them.
He pushed it fast.
Yo, he smacked.
The pimp got up.
He walked slow too. He didn't rush.
He walked, he's my... The pimp got up there.
He walked slow, too.
He didn't rush.
He walked the style.
And dude knew what it was.
Yeah.
He knew what it was.
He was surprised.
He knew.
Oh, shit.
Yo, y'all niggas
just fucked up shit in Newark, nigga.
Hey, listen.
Pay your debts.
Are y'all for street justice or no?
Yes, I'm for street justice.
No, I'm not.
All right.
This is not?
I am. Most of the time.
Parks? Yeah, I'm cool. I was watching the video.
Parks is, Flip is a little bit. Mark is.
No, nigga, he's, I'm for street justice. Oh, you all the way.
Mark is. Most of the time.
Most times. Mel? In the right circumstances, yep.
Absolutely. If you.
Look at Flip. Why are you so stupid? You know what I'm talking about.
You could have just let her answer and that be the end. Why you got to be all dumb? I love her.
I love her. She don't...
Wait, what did you guys say? No, no, no. You ain't going to trick me.
Okay. I ain't having an HR meeting.
Nope. Nope.
Because when they arrested the pastor dude, I was like... The pimp dude.
I mean, the pimp dude. I was like, I don't know if this is right because the homeboy should have paid Jordy he should have paid Jordy and we know that that old ass dude went and took his ass over there by the junction and bought some pussy and then went to the yeah and then went to the pedestal to fucking talk some good God shit.
You know he went We did that. Yeah, for sure.
I didn't know you could do that. You could buy the crap.
And that says It depended on anywhere. Y'all different than you.
No, just anywhere. Yeah, just get it back to me.
They gotta lay away. But that but that speaks to the audacity.
You're not gonna promise me some shit. Don't pay my worker and then go to work and it be the church.
And act like it's all good. Well, he was a white man.
And spread the good word. And I know where you at.
Yeah. I know where you're going to be and I know what time you're going to be there.
Sorry, buddy. You always don't need to be involved in that.
As Pim C. Did you watch that shit for real? Yes.
How he walked up there smooth. Nine times I watched it.
Yo, that nigga, he slapped him or punched him? Punched him. Punched him.
He knocked that nigga. Punched him.
And his mans ain't do nothing. Hey, yo, y'all can't do that at CCC in Brooklyn.
CCC church, them security guards, is fucking you up. Leave it alone.
CCC and Allens. CCC and Allens in Queens.
Y'all can't do that. All that pimp walking up, shaloting them niggas is fucking you up
before you even
get through the door.
Security is extremely
serious in those
mega churches.
Oh, yeah.
Mega churches.
That's like get to a superstar.
Yeah.
Oh, no, they couldn't do that.
Rest in peace
over at Christian Love either.
He knew where to do it at.
Oh, no, you couldn't do that
in Christian Love.
No, you couldn't do that there.
What's Christian Love?
I don't know.
That was his church.
It's in your...
Rest in peace. That was his church.
But you're not walking in there like that We talking about Mega churches I ain't gonna lie This is wrong But the footage Of Bishop Lamont Church getting robbed A little more whitehead Y'all seen it? Yes we did Yeah A bunch of times You seen it though? The robbery that he set The robbery up. I could choreograph it.
I've seen that shit like it was Harlem Nights, nigga. I've seen it a million times.
I'm so glad Righteous Jim Sons is back, by the way. Me too.
I ain't started back yet, but yeah. He locked up now, right? Yeah, he was here like three weeks ago.
He's locked up, but when you watch the footage of that church, like, you should have been robbing the church. Like, this was
the church on top of whatever. He set it up, nigga.
There's no other way that a
criminal thought to rob that church.
Like, when they show the outside view,
nobody said.
That's it right there. It's sitting there.
Yo, man. He's shooting, nigga.
Nobody called up to
homie and say. Yo, I know where it's at, my nigga.
That shit is a mess, that one. Yeah.
It's on top of a furniture store or something. Nigga, I remember Maya Angelou was at Riz of Peace.
It was at CCC, nigga. They wasn't playing.
Those fucking church, they mad aggressive. Y'all niggas, this is the house of the Lord.
They extremely aggressive. Yeah, them armor bearers.
Yeah, I don't know why they like that. I tried to walk in there with my hat on, nigga.
That nigga pushed me to the top. I said, because the white church you can wear your hat.
They let you get it off. Come as you are.
Yeah, come as you are, but not the black church. Maya Angelou, hear that? The lights and shit? We some lost as a people.
Niggas named the whole list of fucking famous people that they would be destroyed if they left. It wasn't a sign of Maya Angelou.
It wasn't a great black excellent on it. It was Mariah Carey, Spud Webb.
Lloyd Banks. Lloyd Banks.
We will never overcome as a people. The nigga probably was mad at Maya Angelou.
Oh, geez. my Angela.
Philip Wiseman Drummond. Why do you keep fucking this thing? Yo, man.
Fuck his name. Get off some bullshit.
Philip fucking Drummond Wiseman. Philip Seymour Hoffman Seymour Hoffman Mission Impossible nigga Get out of here Before the Devil Knows You're Dead I've never met anybody else That's watched that movie Before the Devil Knows You're Dead Always some sick shit You know a lot a lot of crazy shit, Mel, you and Paul.
Y'all watch a lot of crazy shit. I like movies.
Yeah, see? Philip Hackman. You talked over my fucking Gene Hackman tribute.
I was fucked up. I did not.
Niggas didn't give a fuck about Gene. Y'all saw Philip.
I'm trying to stop. We care about Gene.
We care about G. Yo, niggas get on these podcasts, Mike.
Come on.
Somebody segue us out here.
Niggas gave Gene Ackman and his wife a hove for 20 seconds.
Junior Bridgeman is like, hey.
Y'all don't be giving a fuck.
Now, all of a sudden, y'all got a list of who y'all going to be destroyed about.
I do got my list.
I never heard of a list.
Who's on your list? He said hove. Yeah, I got hove on my list.
AI is got my list. I never heard your list.
Who's on your list?
He said Hov?
Yeah, I got Hov on my list.
AI is on my list.
Snoop is on my list.
AI like, oh, Allen Iverson.
Yeah, sure.
These are people that...
That makes sense.
Yeah, been a lot to me through childhood and shit.
Hey, hey, yeah.
I'm just saying.
It's people.
If something happens to them,
it'll fuck me up for a minute.
How long, though? Like a month? Nah, nah. Oh, dang.
If I don't know them, it'll fuck me up for a minute. How long, though? Like a month?
Nah, nah.
If I don't know them, it's like a day.
And then the funeral.
If I don't have no personal relationship with you.
I'm still upset about it.
But Michael Jackson, it was more like that day.
I anchored the funeral and I cried.
During the funeral, when Stevie started singing.
Stevie sang, I never dreamed you'd leave it
in the summer. We was all fucked up.
Can you pull that mic close to you? Oh, I'm sorryed You Leave It in the summer and we was all fucked up because it was like
Can you pull that mic
close to you?
Oh I'm sorry.
You know you ain't
but 5'4 nigga
close to the damn mic.
Yeah something like that
like just because
a lot of times
it would be the tragedy of it
don't be that the person
meant that much to you.
Nonsense.
You know what I mean
it'd be like
that this thing
with Kobe
even if you didn't love basketball
and you didn't know him
it's still like something
about somebody at that age
dying to like
messes your head up.
Same thing with Michael Jackson
for me.
Same thing with Michael
I don't know him it's still like something about somebody at that age dying to like messes your head up same thing with Michael Jackson for me same thing with Michael I was sad Michael went too early for me yeah I was sad as well we can move on but I'm dying to know who would have been on y'all list ages ago before celebrity and fame and groupism took over. Like, anybody that was like a world changer.
Nelson Mandela. Who on your list, nigga? Nelson Mandela.
Tesla. You told niggas off the road.
Tesla. Einstein.
When Mike died, you said, check off the Prince. Whoever made bread.
When he goes. Nigga, you got the same shit.
Uncle Ben, right? Rice. Who got bread and rice though? Famous Amos.
Famous Amos. Nelson Mandela is good.
Nelson Mandela. He passed away.
That was a good one. I didn't cry though.
Damn, I didn't cry for that one. I didn't mention it.
I was at a funeral too. I didn't cry, but I was sad.
You went to a lot of funerals. Damn, I was actually...
Now I feel like an asshole. Yeah, I probably should have.
Mark be trying to get booked at niggas' funerals to speak. Trying.
What do you mean trying? Right. As a journalist, I go to a lot of funerals to cover them, and then I end up just going and staying.
So I went to South Africa for his. It was amazing.
You know what I mean? It was so amazing, you almost didn't have time to be sad because there was so much partying and so much traveling and all of that stuff.
He laid in state so you went to like 12 cities
to follow him and be dead.
But anyway.
Yo.
Thank God for technology.
The obituary was such
a horrible way to learn
that somebody died.
Or to open the paper.
God damn.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
In the Caribbean
they put that shit on the TV
at night. This person died.
The daily obituaries. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On, shit. Yeah, in the Caribbean, they put that shit on the TV at night.
This person died.
The daily obituaries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, on the television.
Oh, no.
I think I'd rather the paper shit.
Yeah.
Watch my show and then I'm fucked up.
Can we talk about the fucked up obituaries, though, like, late on?
Niggas, some of the obituaries be fucked up and nasty, nigga, and I don't like it.
They be leaving it to their kids. They want to go the cheap route.
This shit be the bullshit paper. One paragraph.
The ink falling off. I don't like that shit, yo.
I got a problem with that. Talk about families getting nasty with the obituaries, too.
Yeah. Leaving people out.
Yeah, all that shit. We was beeping with her.
We don't like her. Her name ain't going in here.
It's not time for you to get your personal grievance out when somebody passes away. You know, you're supposed to follow how they feel, but you can't do that.
Niggas be disrespectful and spend some money. I was not in my family.
My sister died. I think I was in one picture.
No, I was in no pictures. I fucked up.
They had cousins, aunties, fucking tutors. Who was responsible for putting together the montage? Her daughter.
Oh. What was her beef with you? He was rich and he wasn't around, nigga.
I never think that a sibling should do it. I agree.
But who do you get to do it, though? One of the old heads of the family. Yeah, that's who she does.
An older person? One of the old, even if it's not in age, one of the older heads in the family. Got it.
Who's more responsible, who's going to get all the pictures, that talk to to everybody that's going to do it right. Yeah.
That's going to say and be mature. Hey, Mark ain't in enough pictures here.
This person's going to do it right. Yeah, I understand.
That'd be fucked up. You'd be at the funeral sitting there waiting for your pick to come off.
When they start reading names and you just sitting there. That's how I was.
Mark was sitting there like this.
Mark was like this.
He was in the front too.
Mark was like this.
In the front.
Hands folded.
They ain't freeway.
Freeway ain't got no pictures, did they?
Oh, shit.
That would have been even worse.
Like, yo, I was there for that.
You sitting there.
Mark is crazy. Zoom out.
You can tell They getting to the end of the montage And start getting to the Oh shit he just died Pictures like the recent pictures He like I know I'm in some more pictures I wasn't in none Damn I wasn't even in the book Yo they show you They show you a motherfucker Whole life And you wasn't there at all. You've been sitting there looking at when they was one.
Oh, shit. So speaking of this, this is part of my Bill Burr review.
Okay. Bill Burr said something I thought was really interesting, which was, why are we still having open caskets? Oh, I was with him on that 100%.
And while, while he was joking, the more he talked about it, I was like, yo, that's totally correct. Why are we still having open caskets where we're forcing people to go look at some dead motherfucker lying there who may be made up right or not be made up right? And I take your word, if you say that this person is dead, then they died.
Like, I don't need to see the proof right at the top of the fucking service. He got to answer the text.
So I believe you. Yeah, open cast could just seem a little.
I feel like you might know the history of why we have open cast. All right, vacuum the fun.
It's a great way to... There we go.
Oh, that's the Roomba.
Vacuum up the fun.
Mark, what is the history of this?
I mean, I'm just saying,
like, in order to, like,
okay, fine, fine, fine.
I'll back away, fine.
I'll back away.
It'll be interesting.
That's that Philip Dyson Moore shit.
What do y'all think about this?
I've always thought that open caskets were really fucking creepy. Yeah.
This is a really morbid episode. It really is.
It is. Fuck it.
I just think it's creepy for kids. It's creepy for everybody.
It's creepy for everybody. It's some funerals I've been to.
It allowed you to it's like that last bit of closure. Wanting to say goodbye, I understand.
If the kid is old enough for they head to be peeking up, then that's bad, but you don't want to see that. But if they small enough to wear, you don't even really.
You don't know what's going on up in there? They should be done up. They be having LEDs.
The kids, they be having glasses. They be propped up.
They'd be like, alright, man. Yeah, you'll feel person.
They'd be in there all propped up. Alright, go ahead.
Go ahead. Listen.
Take it away. No, I'm listening to you.
I'm listening to you. I'm with you.
I don't like seeing like seeing that shit it is whack I like seeing it before it starts I take whack yeah yeah the wake so like when my dad died the night before you go you look at him you know say your goodbyes or whatever the next day I don't feel the need to see him but see the problem now is cause everybody ain't got it so you doing it all in one shot yeah ain't no more the wake used to be the night before right Right. And then the funeral was the next day.
Right. I just went to one.
Shit started at 1 p.m. I'm like, wait, it's starting at 1? And that was the wake.
Oh, hell no. Yeah, you just don't get to see them.
To me, you just don't get to see them. I mean, some people like to kiss the body goodbye and all of that stuff.
Yeah, some, yeah. What really pissed me off, though, is when they start taking pictures.
Well, that's some new shit. I know, it's new shit.
That, I don't care what,
that really pissed me off
when I start seeing
somebody walking up to the casket.
Yo, fam.
Fam.
Yeah, that's weird.
Hey, yo, real quick,
since we talking about that,
I just got,
my wife just got a call
that her aunt in Canada
wants to,
she's passing away,
but she wants to, she wants help with a company called MADE, I think. Medical assistance in dying.
Yeah, yo. And she asked me how I felt about that.
But I'm like, nigga, It's like legal euthanasia? Yes. I don't know, I guess that.
Yeah, that's the company that come kill you faster. Well, no.
I think it's selfish. No.
I know Sophie, call me, man. It's only for terminal patients.
But I thought about you, but I think that shit was something. It's not selfish.
If you have like two to three weeks left and the quality of your life is so, you know, is just, it's non-existent, then that's a choice. Mel, how many times we hear people have two to three weeks left and they live for years? That is a fact.
You know what I'm saying, man? You never really know. I'm going to back out of this conversation.
I apologize. I think y'all have to...
It's called made, though. You know about it, right, man? Mm-hmm.
If you're in misery, I think people are right to die with dignity. I think people should make their own choices.
We got to get a call. I'm about to have somebody help me transition on to the afterlife.
Yeah, you should respect's wishes. She did respect, but I just didn't at the time.
I'm sorry. I think sometimes the opposite is selfish, actually.
Keeping them alive when they want to go. Flip, you said you believe that person doing that is being selfish.
Yeah, because it's so many things. It's their life.
They're the one in pain. So they're the ones that want to leave.
So I think it's really, it'd be us who still... But I want to go say, I want to go hang out with you.
That's the selfish part. I'm selfish.
Stay in excruciating pain so that I can get that beautiful time. Because I don't want to grieve you.
Well, no, no. Stay here and excruciating pain.
No, no, no. I don't want them to stay in pain.
But obviously, if you could hold on a little bit longer so the family could come around
and gather around,
we would love that.
That's it.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, it's hard.
I don't want to be selfish
and make a mockery out of it
because obviously it's important
to the family and to my wife.
So why can't you just go now?
Yeah.
You got things to do.
Right.
And you got another room to do.
Oh, shit.
Man, that's not nice, man.
I'm not.
You said another room to do now when my fucking aunt-in-ing away Go now Then go Go now Truthfully yeah Go now He's like Get up and go now He's like I can pay for episode I'm not leaving here Since it's so important to you Drop everything and go now Thank you man I got you Okay I was I made too much last month I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry much last month. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Nana.
I'm going to put you on my brain.
That's not funny, Joe.
I need this brain.
What's wrong with you?
I need it right now.
I'll do this for you, Nana.
You wouldn't even want me to miss all this money.
If you knew.
Oh, if only Nana knew. Sometimes you got to do it in the name of Nana, yo.
Fuck that. Got to send some flowers to the funeral.
What's wrong with you, yo? Oh, shit. Holy shit.
You sick, yo. Yo.
What was that movie of Think Like a Man? What was the name of that movie where their own boy died and at the end they all went to the beach and sent the balloons up in their head? Why did I get married? Whatever movie that was. Why they was acting like that was really their dead homie in the balloon going to the black nigga.
Tribute.
It's a tribute, fam.
It's symbolic and meaningful.
Y'all don't go get in the house.
The only thing I would say
on a serious note,
on a serious note though,
as you think about,
and I'm only saying it
because we talked about this,
like sometimes people,
elderly people get depressed
and they don't know what they want
or they think they want one thing
and they want something else. Terminal patience is one thing and I think people have a right to die with dignity.
But I know like with my father, they told us he was dying. They said he got a couple weeks.
Just stop feeding him. Huh? Yeah, they said like the feed because he didn't, basically he didn't want to eat anymore.
And so they said you can put it through a feeding tube or not. Oh, okay.
Right. And so I said, and so I said,
dad,
I had my other brothers
bounced.
They were left.
They didn't want to do it.
They had me do it.
I'm the youngest.
And I said,
hey,
do you want to,
there you go
throwing Frasier.
Yeah,
you ain't shit.
I'll have to hear
the funeral story.
I get it.
Yeah,
market foul.
My other brothers
bounced.
It was just me.
Yo,
Frasier's like,
hey, you got this. So I went and I was like, yo, you know, do you want us to keep doing the feeding tube or not? And he was like, I think I'm okay if I don't have the feeding tube.
And I said, I won't be upset with you. I won't be hurt if you're ready to go.
If you don't want the feeding tube, it's okay. He said, let him go.
About two days later, as we were starting to do that, the doctor said, let's give him one more thing for his appetite is an appetite uh inducer but it's also antidepressant he took it and it turned out after he took the appetite inducer not only did he want to eat but he felt better and didn't want to die anymore i came back two weeks later because i traveled to san i was waiting for i was on standby you're going too hard for part of the month now what you're killing this shit i came two weeks later. We had moved into a transitional home because my mom didn't want to die at home.
And he was fucking up two plates of food. He was killing it.
And he had gained like 10, 15 pounds. He looked like himself again.
And it was the fact that the appetite inducer was actually also anti-depressant. And I found out that a lot of elderly people are depressed and will be like, fuck it.
Like, let me go. Because of the mood they're in.
That's not negating what you're saying, which is when you're terminally ill and you're in pain, that's different. My dad was just depressed.
And knowing the difference between those two things is important. And also, MAID is a very, it's a lengthy process.
You have to get asked a lot of questions. They really do cognitive and psychological testing to make sure that you are of sound mind making this decision.
They ask you in front of people. They ask you alone.
Are you being coerced into this decision? Whoever's the executor of your will cannot be a witness because that's a conflict of interest. It's a lengthy process.
I'm telling y'all not in front of everybody. Don't do that shit for me.
Keep me alive no matter what. No DNR.
Nigga, hook me to the car charger. I don't give a fuck what you got to do to figure out how to keep me alive.
I don't they'll figure something out they find something new it's not for me but I respect everybody else's wishes yeah I'm the opposite once I get to a point where I can't do anything for myself and y'all can let me go I don't wanna be a burden on nobody I feel that let me go I wanna be a burden these niggas been a burden on me a long time. All right.
You got it. Okay.
Send me to Frazier. Pull out that hat in the back with all of our happy topics now.
Two hours in, who wants to get happy? Anybody? Get happy, man. Do we have any more stories? Shit, I'm still happy.
About when our parents died or somebody we love. What'd you guys think? Stop.
Made some, yeah. Would you do it? Would you want to live? Come on.
What we got happy? All right. Drake and UMG.
That makes us happy. Let's do it, Ice.
Put this shit on me. UMG clapped back.
They sued him. And they're trying to get out of the lawsuit.
I mean, the verbiage in the lawsuit was crazy. Talk about ice.
I got it. Oh, you have it up? Let's go, big male.
Plaintiff, one of the most successful recording artists of all time, lost a rap battle that he provoked and in which he willingly participated, UMG argued in a motion to dismiss. Instead of accepting the loss like the unbothered rap artist he often claims to be, he has sued his own record label in a misguided attempt to salve his wounds.
Who wrote this? Kendrick. Fuck.
He had an ax to grind, or she? The label said, not like us cannot form the bias of a defamation claim because Lamar's lyrics are protected as non-actionable opinion and rhetoric hyperbole. This is especially true in the context of a rap battle, UMG added, where diss tracks are often built around outrageous insults.
UMG noted that this type of hyperbole was present in the nine diss tracks Drake and Lamar collectively released during their 2024 rap battle.
And that Drake encouraged the feud by taunting Lamar to respond to his songs and lodge damning insults of his own, including accusing Lamar of domestic abuse on the track Family Matters.
So that's pretty admitted.
I just don't understand Drake's suit I never understood it because it was a battle not even just that you're suing them for doing the same thing they did for you right that's the part that you benefited from this for years and now now it's, oh, wait. If it's true, you know, y'all promoting the song.
Yeah. I don't like that song, though.
It's about me. It makes me look bad.
I'm going to sue you. It's all been bad.
That's the part I just don't get. And I hear a lot of people saying, oh, you're taking the side of the machine.
I'm not taking the side of nothing in this I just don't understand it's like it's cool
as long as it works for me
I'm taking the side
of rap battles
yeah
it was a rap battle
yeah
and it didn't go your way
and that sucks
that's it
I'm gonna still listen
to Drake music
I still do listen
to Drake music
same
I think a lot of people
are in the same boat
the suit was stupid
I think it was all
for the Super Bowl
but clearly
it's still happening
so I don't know
following through
Thank you. I think a lot of people are in the same boat.
The suit was stupid. I think it was all for the Super Bowl, but clearly it's still happening.
Following through? I don't know. What y'all think? I think Party Next Door better be in the studio coming up with the fastest Nokia remix he can.
That's what I think. It's my mother phone.
You fucking crazy as hell, nigga. We gonna do an album together And your little song without me gonna go You got me fucked up nigga He always get the bad end of the state I ain't even think about that I'm listening to what they play on the radio They play Nokia and give me a hug Yeah But give me a hug Has Drake on it No that's what you're saying They don't have Party Sorry Never mind Baby girl I know Kia's hard though It is Ifiggas' door, I'm not leaving the studio until I think of a new one of that for him to approve.
For him and... I mean, you crazy.
Like, damn, that is kind of fire. I'm going to use that one, though.
Let me get that. New album coming.
I'd be tight. I know niggas are not supposed to say that because it's still your album.
No, I would be tight. 100%.
I'd be tight. I don't give a fuck.
I would say it. Absolutely, I would be tight.
I'm over the lawsuit shit. I'm over the lawsuit shit above my pay grade.
I don't know who's doing what. I don't know why they're doing it.
It's the last year thing to me. Let it be relevant to the people it's relevant to, which is UMG, Lucian, and fucking Drake, OVO.vo i don't care i don't care like it has no bearing on me win or lose i just want music i don't even want that no i want music from niggas i don't like y'all have trained trained me into okay there's we're not getting albums from all of the people i love i told y y'all, throughout the whole week, I'd just be thinking of all of the artists that I love that just, well, off it now.
It's like, if y'all off it, the fuck I'm going to be sitting by the iTunes store for? Right. When they drop, they'll drop.
That's what I'm saying. So it's just like, that's all I care about.
And if they drop a really dope project, then we'll get another one in six years. Yeah.
I mean, Drake was the exception to that.
I'm not really talking about him because he was dropping.
But it's scary out there.
I ain't going to hold you.
I could go for a Drake album if he's just rapping.
I hate the singing shit, but if he actually is just spitting bars, I could go for a Drake album.
I don't think you ever get that.
I think you've never gotten that.
True.
And nor will he ever do that because his fan base is just too big for that.
I just want a Drake album.
Thank you. go for a Drake album.
I don't think you ever get that. I think you've never gotten that.
True. And nor will he ever do that because his fan base
is just too big for that.
I just want a Drake album.
I don't give a fuck.
As long as I don't want
an experimental Drake,
like the dance album,
I don't need none of that.
Give me Drake
that I've been a fan of
since fucking 08.
It's rumored that it is coming.
Mm-hmm.
I'm sure.
And it's rumored
that it ain't going to be long. And you don't think this UMG lawsuit is going to hem that up at all? It doesn't have to.
I don't know. Yeah, he'll find a way.
Same way he did with the party album. That's what I'm afraid of.
Pretty much a drink. Go get one producer or something and do it.
We've seen that trick a bunch of times. The producer album, where it's his album featuring you or y'all together but now it's over there got it or the label could have no problem with putting out a Drake album I'm about to say still profitable we could have our fight and we could continue our fight but if you got one we have paperwork that says that we in on that where do you see this going like if he loses the lawsuit what I? What I'm saying, the lawsuit in general, right? They're trying to get it dismissed.
If it doesn't dismiss it, what does it put out there to the other artists? It's going to get dismissed, I think. Huh? I think it's going to get dismissed.
You think it's going to get dismissed? Yeah. Same.
But if it doesn't. Is there a countersuit? I don't know.
I have kind of clocked out of this as well.
Got it.
I think UMG's game was to get this dismissed out of hand early,
and they didn't dismiss it.
It's still moving forward.
Yeah.
But I still think that it's not going to...
I don't know if he'll be successful.
It doesn't seem like he's going to be successful based on what the legal expert...
I'm not a legal expert, but that's what they're saying.
I've heard the same.
Y'all think Luigi's getting off? No. We talked about that.
I don not a legal expert, but that's what they're saying. I've heard the same.
Y'all think Luigi's getting off?
No. We talked about that.
I don't remember your answer.
Well, we talked about jury selection
and just juries
being committed to
finding reasonable
doubt. Yeah, that's why I want to know
y'all answer. I don't remember it.
No.
I don't think he's getting off at all. I think he's a
patsy, and they're going to make sure he don't get off. Patsy? Like he don't remember it.
No, I don't think he's getting off at all. I think he's a patsy and they're going to make
sure he don't get off.
Patsy?
Like he didn't do it.
When y'all say
you don't think he did it?
No, wait, wait, wait.
When y'all say things
like that, right,
he didn't do it.
You don't think
he did anything?
No, I was shaking my head
at how niggas always
think somebody didn't do it.
Yeah, when y'all say
I like that. That was just a little shake.
When y'all say he didn't do it. Yeah, when y'all say...
Hey, I'm sorry. I like that.
That was a judgmental shake.
When y'all say,
when you say he didn't do it,
Those were his eyebrows.
What do you think happened then?
Like, do you think they just found somebody
to make them be the fall guy?
How did they convince him to be the fall guy?
They might not convince you.
So he was on his way to do that actual thing,
but somebody beat him to it
and knew he was going to do it kind of thing?
Or it could have been planned. He could have been coached through it.
It wasn't just his idea. You were led to do this.
So he might have actually executed, you're saying, but just might not have been his plan. He was a tool.
He was a cog in the wheel. Got it.
I don't know about that. Because early on, people were saying, oh, that wasn't really him.
He wasn't the guy. identity.
All this crazy, like, scandal shit. And I'm like, I don't believe that.
I think he did just what it looked like. He pulled out a gun and shot somebody on the broad daylight.
And then got on a city bike and left. And went to McDonald's.
They'll pull out a fish. That's the part that just got a little...
Hey, I think he did it too. But all evidence on him.
But do I believe that, Yeah. Do I believe that he just needed a McChicken when he was? I thought he might be hungry.
But yeah. Too great of a plan to run the McDonald's and sit there with all the shit on.
It just makes me question things. Like, the amount of planning that went into doing that, and then the movement afterwards, they just don't match.
Because he's never going to eat that. How do you get food? Shave your eyebrows.
Dog. No, not them eyebrows.
No, you can take them out. You would think the person that lays out that plan walks around with the evidence on them? Eyebrows? Well, it was a 3D gun, so it's not a traceable weapon.
It has no serial number or anything. So what would be the harm? It's like the gun doesn't really exist.
I don't want to hear none of that shit. If I'm a dude that tried to shoot Trump and shot his earlobe off, this dude's getting way too many props for me.
We don't know what this dude looks like still. Right.
Exactly. They killed him, didn't they? No.
So they said. I don't know they didn't kill him, I don't think.
I don't know. I think there was footage of them actually arresting him.
I get confused. I don't remember to be honest.
I don't know. didn't kill him I don't think I don't know I think there was footage of them actually arresting him I get confused I don't remember to be honest The earlobe guy? Let's check I think they took him out He had the niggas shook I would love to be there for like the voir dire process of Luigi's trial.
That's going to be tough.
I don't know who you exclude.
Would you want to be a juror?
Yes.
Yes, I would love to be a juror. Yeah, he was shot and killed.
What's his name?
Isn't that funny that we don't know the name
of the guy who tried to...
Thomas Matthew Crooks.
The dude with the glasses on the roof, right?
Mm-hmm.
See, I don't know about that one.
See?
Now I'm ice.
They fail.
They fail.
You're everybody.
They did not kill that nigga.
I'm ice. They failed.
They failed. You're like, you're everybody.
They did not kill that nigga. I'm more suspicious of that one.
I think he did it too, but I'm more suspicious of that one. Dog, if somebody's trying to kill the president, you kill him so that we don't get information as to who you may or may not be working for? Yes.
You damn right. Yeah, you got snipers in the room.
You damn right we kill him. Immediately.
There was snipers everywhere, but yet they didn't see this kid? Yes. You damn right.
Yeah, you got snipers. You damn right we kill them.
Immediately.
There was snipers everywhere,
but yet they didn't see this kid with a shotgun.
They saw him initially.
They knew.
They saw him.
And they did nothing.
Listen, let him.
He's white.
Listen, no.
They wanted him to knock off Trump.
Damn.
The government,
they turned their blind eye
to certain shit
to allow certain shit to happen.
He fucked up.
He did.
We gotta kill this nigga though. Right.
Because if they get him and he start talking, this is a... He fucked up.
Fucking idiot. Nigga moved.
Trump would move. Of all people? Yup.
Trump would move. It was almost over for that.
Yo, you saw how close that was? Mm-hmm. He just did a head turn to do some bullshit he did.
Yo, Bill.
Watch enough shit, man.
They be telling you about this shit.
Wait, hold up.
If you were a juror, what would you juror?
Would I juror?
Yeah.
What would your verdict be?
Innocent or guilty? I would be there to listen to all of the evidence to make my decision objectively.
Okay.
What do you think it would be?
Not motherfucking guilty.
Okay. All right you think it will be? Not motherfucking guilty.
Okay.
All right.
Free him.
Oh, shit.
I feel like a lot of people feel that way because of how he looks.
Yes, they feel.
Yeah.
It has nothing to do with the way he looks.
It's tough to live in a world with all this patriarchy.
It is.
There you go.
It's tricky.
It's crazy. Stop it.
So you need to free them? Huh? Yes. Why? Because she thinks he's...
Canada, don't y'all get health care? Don't y'all got y'all... I haven't lived in Canada for almost 25 years.
But why free Canada? So I'm not a taxpaying citizen, so therefore I do not get the universal health care that the citizens of Canada get. And even the people that's on the side of that, because he killed the CEO of the, what company was it? United Healthcare.
Okay, guess what they did? They were denying. They were denying.
No, no, guess what they did? Put a new CEO in. They sure did.
With the same outcome. Guess what? Nothing changed.
You're right. So.
Is this like when y'all wanted fucking Jody Meeks free? Yeah. Who's Jody Meeks? Yes.
The fucking model, light-skinned dude. With the light eyes.
I wasn't invested in that shit. I didn't give a fuck.
He wasn't white. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. It seems to be a trend.
My bad. That's my bad.
That's my bad. I'm ignoring it.
What else? I'm going to put the TV up. What else is important, unimportant? What was we just talking about? Some good news for all of y'all.
If you're thinking about sending your kids to Harvard, it's now free. Well, y'all make too much money, but it's free for anybody who makes under $200,000.
Any families that make under $200,000 a year, your children now have free tuition at Harvard. What's the catch? Wait, hold on.
Is it children or students? Students of any age? So what if I make less than $200,000 a year? Can I go to Harvard for free? If you can get in. Oh, shit.
Shade. A little bit.
A little bit. Wow.
Wow. No, no, not to you.
Not to you, Mel. I'm saying, somebody asked, what's the catch? That's the catch.
Yeah, that's the catch. It's not like more people can get.
They ain't accepting you niggas. Right.
Most people who get into Harvard already make more than $200,000 a year. There's a class component to it.
So it doesn't really make Harvard that much more accessible. A lot of them folks' legacy.
Yeah. Rich people get into Harvard more than poor people.
Poor people rarely get into Harvard. So it's not like they lowered the bar.
And it's interesting because the right-wingers on the internet last night and all on TV were talking about this is awful. This is more DEI.
Of course. This is letting unworthy people.
It doesn't change the standards of Harvard. If you can get into Harvard, you can go.
It just means poor people don't have to pay, which I think is a great thing. I think it's great, too.
I just would like to see the numbers. I just think we need to not do it at Harvard because who gives a fuck?
I mean, like, do it at the state college.
Do it at the local college.
Do it at a place where people are actually getting in.
Don't do it at a place where...
Harvard only lets in 3% of all applicants.
So, who cares?
Like, there might be 10 poor people
who get a free ride now.
That's all.
If that.
If that.
This is just a headline to sound good.
Right.
That's it, yeah.
Yeah, it sounds good.
That's it.
That's it.
Some good pub.
But it don't do shit for y'all now.
I mean... If that If that This is just a headline That sound good Right That's it Yeah That's it That's it It's a good pub But it don't do shit for y'all And nobody who was going to Harvard Who wasn't going to Harvard Is now going to Harvard And then they said If the family is under 100k You get free room and board Who's How many What percent is that gonna apply to? Again, almost nobody.
And again, to your point, if you make $125,000 and you get it free, but you got to pay room and board.
Room and board is a lot of fucking money.
It is.
You still got to come up with cash out of pocket.
So, it's tough.
So, anyways, it's an interesting announcement, but I want you all to just look underneath the headline and realize it doesn't mean much.
We should be fighting for free public education for everybody. Agreed.
And you know they ain't doing that.
Alright.
Education is still a barrier. Trying to keep folks out.
We getting too serious. I can feel it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get about it there.
You feel what? I'm learning
when to pivot.
Don't look at...
We gotta learn how to pivot
without looking at me like this. Smooth.
That was our first time. I wanted to shut up because that was my first time in 44 years hearing some Harvard news.
I felt dumb as hell. All right.
That is fucked up. Oh, shit.
Well, great. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't. Fuck it.
Holy shit, Harvard. Well, in other news, Dreamville announced their final lineup.
They did. Ooh.
It's April, I want to say, 5th and 6th in North Carolina. And let me get the lineup up real quick for you guys.
I got you. It's Wayne, Hot Boys and the Big Timers, Juvenile, Turk, BG, Manny Fresh, and Birdman, 21 Savage, Party Next Door, Ludacris, Ari Lennox, Chief Keef, Keisha Cole, Boss, Young Nudie, Ab Soul, Lou Oman, Kai Cash, Nico Brim, J.
Cole Erica Badu Thames Glorilla J.I.D. Wale Coco Jones Big X The Plug Earth Gang Anisha Kaz Akia I want to go Night 1 sounds amazing That's one night? No no Two nights Night 2 is I assume that was night 2 J.
Cole that was night two. J.
Cole, once he said J. Cole, J.
Cole, Erykah Badu, Tim's Gorilla on down, that's night two. Okay.
That's what I want to see. Night one sounds amazing.
I'm old. I want night two.
I mean, the big time is I want to see all that too, but I just feel like I've seen them do their reunion thing now. Yeah, that's part of it.
Laleigh and Baby leaving that nigga on stage. Yeah, we been seeing that.
Why they doing that nigga like that?
They leaving that nigga on stage.
He in the middle of a speech.
They just walking out.
Why the fuck they keep doing it like that, bro?
What the fuck is he on?
What's up?
Put me on, son.
I don't know.
Or Mac Maynard one of them niggas.
Why the fuck they keep leaving Baby on stage?
Mid-speech, yo.
I love y'all niggas.
Them niggas smoke in unison.
Like, I'm seeing these clips.
I'm like, yo, how old do you got to be before somebody pulls you aside aside like, yo, enough of this tour life. It ain't good no more.
Like, remember the white dude that keep doing Vegas that they kept sending out there? What's his name? Frankie something? Oh. No, you know the guy.
But he shouldn't be out there no more. What's his name? Not Bob Hope Jones No it wasn't Tom Jones It was Frank something Frankie Frankie Valli Yeah you are Frankie Valli Go to our resident white expert We keep seeing clips of Birdman doing this shit It's like at some point you gotta remember how old people are It's like get of there.
But he's not that old. How old is Birdman? He's not that old nigga? There's got to be something else, Joe.
He's not old. Why he's touring or why they walking off on him? Both.
I think it's business that we got to do this show together, but we don't really fuck with you like that. I'm doing my contractual part here.
This is, yo, niggas need bread. Everybody ain't doing good.
They walked off in off in unison, nigga. They might not really fuck with him.
That's like Joe can't leave me over here while I'm talking. And not just that.
If our business was right, I might not have to do this tour. Like, Berman robbed them niggas for years, according to them.
So if our business was right, I wouldn't even be happy to be out here. Let me say this.
Do we really look at it as robbery, nigga? He put the investment out there. He did a lot.
Right? He presented them to the world. Correct.
He marketed the promotion. I mean, Birdman, when the big, I don't really know the story.
I'm not a hip-hop head like you. Mm-hmm.
But from what I've seen when the Hot Boys was out, video shoots and all that stuff, you heard about Birdman putting that shit together. Yes, absolutely.
So does he not deserve the kickback ROI and investment plus more for all the investment that he had to put for six or seven motherfuckers? Juvenile Manny Fresh, Lil Wayne, all the niggas. BG, Juve.
Yes, yes. I'm agreeing with'm agreeing with you now what happens is and this is most hip hop that's that initial deal I'm putting you on yes now it might come time where alright I've I've become a bigger star than we might have imagined I may want to restructure this deal now or I may want I want to make more money now yes no and that's where the beefs come in with a lot a may want, I want to make more money now.
Yes.
No.
And that's where the beefs come in
with a lot of times.
I want to own
my shit now.
Oh, okay.
Yo,
Wayne was going to leave
and go to Rockefeller
with Hove.
Allegedly.
Okay,
allegedly.
They told him,
yo,
we'll stay here,
we'll give you
your own label.
Gave him Young Money. What he didn't know, they gave him 49% of Young Money.
Jesus. So you think you got your own label, but you don't, because I got 51% of what we gave you.
As you find out these things, you start to think the person that I looked up to, that was my friend, that was my mentor, that I called my father, really did not have my best interest in mind. And now beefsteak.
Wait, does that mean I don't have your best interest in mind or that I have to make my money back that I spent? It might. That's great.
Just using Lil Wayne alone, I think it's safe to assume. You recouped.
He recouped. All right, cool.
Handsomely. Just Wayne.
But then how about this? You hear plenty of times where somebody helps somebody become popular. And that's speculative.
I said it's safe to assume. You hear a lot of stories where somebody helps somebody get popular, put all the legwork in and when they become famous, they leave them in the dust.
They dip off. Absolutely.
So sometimes you got to protect yourself. Now, I don't know the details of it, but a lot of niggas got to themselves Agree You do gotta You have to protect But I think Both parts gotta Protect themselves That's where the problem Both sides are trying To protect themselves And then you start To realize Oh shit well We kinda married At this point I really can't Get XYZ without you And here we go With them on tour together I don't't want to talk about them because I don't know.
Their details, yeah, yeah.
I ain't in their business.
But what I can say about entertainment is it could look like somebody is successful enough to recoup
and only 2% of earnings be going toward a recoupment.
You never know when somebody is recouped or not, according to the paperwork.
That's true. And shit, a lot of contracts are designed so you can't recoupment.
You never know when somebody is recouped or not according to the paperwork. That's true.
And shit,
a lot of contracts
are designed
so you can't recoup.
Then there's that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's why
they're leaving them on stage.
This is all speculation.
While we're here,
fucking...
But I could understand that
is what I'm saying.
Got it.
Me too.
This is just business.
Iggy Azalea tweeted
on this news,
not this news,
but...
Thank you. But I could understand that is what I'm saying.
Got it. Me too.
This is just business. Iggy Azalea tweeted on this news, not this news, but related news.
Universal Music, mark my words, you ugly bitch. You will pay me what is owed.
This has been going on between myself and them privately for over two years and counting, by the way. She continues.
It's crazy how in my entire career i was never paid a single royalty by universal music for anything outside of the usa they owe me millions of dollars in back pay that they technically stole from me as per my contract i am due payment the amount owed is in the eight figure range last week they tried to respond to my lawyer and offer me a settlement of 18k i'm told this is a normal response from their lawyers and after appearing in court they end up paying millions as they're supposed to thankfully i'm well off and i can and will pursue this issue until they pay me what they owe but I'd like to publicly say that I think Universal Music are criminals who actively take advantage of all of their artists in perpetuity for their own gain. They are the scummiest company, and they do this to so many artists who unfortunately can't afford to fight for what they're owed.
Thus, they get away with this behavior. Universal Music really needs to do better in their treatment of the artists who quite literally earned the millions via intellectual property.
They had zero part in creating yuck. That was her yuck, not mine.
I get it. A lot of that sounds like buyer's remorse.
On her part? Yes. Meaning she signed the contract, didn't read it through, and this is the outcome? A lot of times it's I didn't really know I was signing this.
I thought it was that. Oh, shit, I signed this.
And now I want to rectify it. Hey, she's doing it the right way because she got lawyers involved and stuff.
She said this is normal where they'll lowball offer you for a settlement. And I'm not even mad at that.
Not taking the company side, but I'm never mad at the attempt. I am.
I'm never mad at the attempt. It's unethical.
I mean, here's my thing. If you and I sign a deal and it's a bad deal, you just got to hold that L, right? But what I'm hearing her say and other artists say is sometimes they're dishonest even in the context of the deal we sign.
Like they actually don't do what they say they're going to do. And it's only when we do forensic accounting.
It's only when we dig deeper that we realize they didn't give us the money. But the problem is the artist is so broke.
They can't. They the thing they actually deserve I'm with you if you sign a bad deal and you don't like the deal you would yeah but what I hear a lot of artists say is that these labels are stealing their money and they know we don't have enough money to prove it that's the part I think is fucked up and I'm with you that part is fucked up I'm just talking about people signing bad deals and then regretting the deal later on.
Or had I known this, I would have never signed that. Well, that's on you.
But doesn't almost every single artist say that? Yeah. It's a predatory industry.
Exactly. And that's the problem.
I'm sorry, Coach. I made this example to make it where a regular person might understand who don't sign record label contracts we we made the jokes before about the uh used car lot all right you going on a used car lot and them selling you a lemon nah not a lemon okay yo you want this car cool we'll put you in this car give us five grand down your interest rate is 27 you don't even know what that means yeah you just so glad all right cool i got the car.
I can afford to pay. Then you realize you go home and look at it.
Wait, the car is worth how much? And if I pay this off I've bought this car three times over? Oh they fucked me. No they didn't fuck you.
You don't know what you were signing. And now you're on the hook.
I mean you made a bad choice but it's still predatory. You got in the bed though.
That's all I'm saying. It's a predatory system that they go to people who don't have many choices, and they pray on your desperation and lack of knowledge.
I remember, I wasn't here, but I remember watching when Jadakiss was here with his father and J-Wan, and they were talking about this. The first deal they got offered was trash, and the only thing that stopped him from doing it was the parents getting lawyers.
Was the parents who would say, don't do this.
Interestingly enough,
he ended up with a bad boy deal that ended up being trashed.
Even after that.
But you heard what he told them.
As soon as y'all got 18,
you went and signed your own deal
without us looking at it.
Right.
And it turned out to be a bad deal.
The problem is for me,
some people don't have that knowledge
and just make their own choice.
A lot of people take that first deal
not knowing any better.
And that's what I have issue. If everybody ended up in that second deal, that's on you.
But see, now today, I'm only speaking today, I think if you end up in that first deal today that's kind of on you with all the information and stories we got now, you should be skeptical of any deal that comes across your desk. You should have it looked at by...
It's the money, man. It's needing money.
It's needing that instant notification. And they hit you with the,
yo, I got a bag of money right here
and a diamond chain for you,
but you got to sign right now.
This offer inspires when I walk out the door.
Niggas are going to sign.
Yeah, I mean, that's capitalism.
So I guess that's what I'm saying.
I hate that people are making bad choices,
but I do got smoke for the companies too
because they could not do that.
And they could still make a lot of money
without fucking everybody over. Then how would they benefit? How would they grow? How how would they be able to get other if Universal made half the money it made it would still be Universal the money needs to go in the circle to me it needs to go in the circle so you can invest in more artists and do whatever you can do and the game is there to be taken advantage of people are there to be taken advantage of whether we like it or not so basically ethics don't play any role in business whatsoever no I don't think so and the business that had ethics a lot of them went down under I don't think so some of the people that started that had ethics when they wanted to pay we watch a lot of businesses go down under for having ethics it sounds fucked up but that's the truth whether truth.
Whether society is built like that or not, that's what happens. There's a huge gap between exploiting the shit out of everybody and making deals so generous that your company can't sustain itself.
There's a middle ground. I agree.
Even just slightly fucked up. Just slightly fucked up.
But once you set the bar of making deals that are, as you said to everybody you fuck the entire industry up doing that they're not trying to do now a new bar is set that's a good thing if it ain't broke don't fix it let's remove it broke to who let's remove every artist about as the business, as the company. Cool, you smart enough to not sign this deal.
Salute to you. I'm going to go give it to him.
But it's also not about being smart. This is what I say.
Just as Joe's example. If Joe came in here and paid all of us exactly half of what he pays us, whatever that number is, right? A lot of us...
A lot of us... That would be fucked up.
But a lot of us might be in a position where we can't leave. True.
And he can just say that's business. Let me ask you a question.
And it wouldn't be that we're not smart enough to know that. It's just we wouldn't have a choice.
Let's remove that part. Let's talk about generosity.
We watch a lot of people be generous in life and go down under, nigga. Artist.
MC Hammer, nigga. Generosity, put them down under.
Mike Tyson. Generosity, put them the middle ground sometimes you have to do things sometimes you have to take advantage in order to succeed it's fucked up to say but it's true just let me finish this response put me in my place MC Hammer buying 30.
A company not exploiting you is not, Universal is not being generous by paying people what they owe or by not extracting all the labor from somebody and giving them just the slightest amount to keep them on board. That's not generosity.
And I think part of our system is fucked up is we act like they're doing us a favor by paying us what's ours. The system is fucked up.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I don't want to compare that to generosity.
I don't want to compare universal to the rapper who just came out the projects is buying all his homies change like that ain't the same shit you know what i'm saying like they owe us they owe us i'm saying us like corporations oh they do they do yeah so that's to me that's the difference i think they owe whatever you agree on in your contract yeah all right and if you agree on some bad terms then you you got some bad terms. I agree.
I agree with that part. And, I mean, y'all segwayed kind of quick, but to whom they're concerned, if you'll keep the job with half to pay, then just before you leave, write your name and all.
Just write down a little box over there. A little over there like if on half to pay you'll still come to work out of need and necessity then all you gotta do is grab a pen and paper and write it get that done ASAP anyways what are you telling me about Kanye Let me hear it Nah I was just I have Kanye blocked So I don't really be seeing I don't see shit But people keep That's yours People keep tagging me And he's on a tweet rant again Going off about a whole bunch of shit And one of the things that stood out, he said, fuck Jim Jones.
And I'm like, wait, what? I don't love that. And they were just on tour together? No, I was never on tour.
Oh, they were hanging out. Okay, check to check it.
Yeah, but Jim went out there to Japan, hung out, bigged him up, all that shit. Gave him the jeans and the belt.
Yeah. Kanye tweeting the diplomat piece and all of that.
And then this. What you want, man? It don't take much.
You do that all the time. Probably part of the plan, man, to bring visibility.
I don't know. What's the plan? To bring visibility where? To Jim's album.
Oh. There's better ways to do that.
Rather than saying... Jim Jones has a good album.
I like it. Great album.
That's my favorite shit
I'm listening to right now.
But is anybody going to take
what he's saying serious
based on his rants?
But if this is going to make you say,
hey, Kanye said fuck Jim Jones.
Let me go listen to his album now.
I don't think that would do that.
Yeah, nah, it don't.
But that's what he's been doing
the whole time.
He, uh...
It don't sound like he spoke to somebody.
Cam?
I'm not putting Cam name in nothing, but it sound like he spoke to somebody. I think he's not.
I mean, it could be. I think that's true, and I think he's not well, and he just does shit.
I remember he was on Drink Champs calling Diddy a fit and fuck Diddy and tweeting crazy shit about Diddy, and then just last night, he's on Instagram telling them that he's like a father to him. That's some more of his tweets was about that too.
He's up here basically defending the Cassie video. Kanye West is right now? Yes.
What's he saying in defense? Oh God. Okay, alright, never mind.
Alright, fine, fine, fine, fine. He's victim blaming.
Let's put it that way. Thank you for summing it up.
It's wild. And then, you know, Diddy called him last night or the last day or two, and Shady Room had an exclusive on it, and they played the whole audio call.
And it's weird. First of all, I think Puff called Ye because he wanted to talk to Ye.
I don't think Puff knew
that Ye was going to be
putting it on the internet.
Like, I can't imagine
calling somebody from prison,
being this private,
not doing no interviews,
and suddenly wanting
my whole conversation in public.
But wait,
what kind of phone
was he talking to him on?
It was a legal one.
The one where they say
this call is being recorded. Yeah, but that don't mean that this person that you're talking to is recording it.
That means that the government... It means that anything can happen.
But the prison recording it don't mean we're going to give it to the shade room either. That's just saying if you say some shit on this call...
How do we hear any kind of calls? The calls on fucking Dateline, the calls on whatever blog. Like, we hear them because they're recorded.
So him thinking that this isn't going to go anywhere, him Diddy talking to Kanye, seems a little preposterous to me. I think anybody that talks or texts Kanye should expect it to go out.
Yeah, that's who. That's just anything.
I was making that joke with my girl yesterday. I'm like Kanye is the dude that if he texts you, you don't even respond and you got to voice note him.
I don't even know if you want to do that. Yeah, you might not even want to do that.
Like you just, nah, I'm cool. That should be on the track.
Word. Nah, I wouldn't say nothing.
And Puff didn't say nothing to him crazy, but he was just talking to him clearly in what seemed like a private moment and he was trying to give Ye this pep talk. He was like, you know, the system is wicked, wicked, wicked.
That's the only thing he said about himself. Kind of like, as if the wicked system is why he's in jail.
As if, like, he did nothing wrong and it's just a wicked system. But then on top of that, he was trying to give Ye the pep talk.
Like, you got to get back on stage. We need you rocking mics again.
We need you cutting samples again. I need the old Ye back.
And Ye was just like, yes, sir. Like, he was very, like, deferential and, like and mature in the conversation.
And then he was like, you've been like a father to me. Even before I met you, you raised me.
And it was like a love fest with Puff. And then on Twitter, he's doing the opposite.
He's tearing down Kim. He's tearing down Jim Jones.
He's tearing down all these people. It seems like he's on another rant, like Flip said.
And I don't know if it's because the album is out, if it's a mental health thing, if it's all of the above. I don't know.
But I ain't going to lie. Sometimes it gets addictive.
I can't stop watching. Nah, it's not the opposite.
I don't want to watch it either. Yeah, complete opposite.
I said that the last time. I was like, all right, enough.
Block mute. I don't want to see your shit no more.
He just said fuck everybody. Yeah.
Except for Joe. He always big up Joe.
Joe, Budden. He love you.
I'm about to look into you a little bit, a little more. Joe was the only nigga that don't say fuck.
Jim was just with him, but he gonna big up Joe in some way. He fucking at church, big enough Joe.
He somewhere else, big enough Joe. Well, Joe Budden say, every way, what's going on on Joe? Put me on to You and Kanye's relationship I don't know what to say Why he never shoot at you? You say a lot of preposterous Shit up here That deserves it That can get you shot at And be clear For me Joe Budden God's not finished Is an insult It's not an insult I insult.
It's a little bit of an insult. It could be taken a couple of different ways.
That's a fucking insult. What? You don't just say nobody whole name singing it and then say God is not finished with you.
Are you crazy? Joe, stop. Stop, Joe.
That is an insult. I've seen no bigger heights for you.
Exactly. See if God ain't done.
Somebody is an insult, niggas. What? Oh, no.
It's no. We were going to say you're a little rough around the edges.
Yeah, it's mad positive. Oh, because you up already so you feel like he tried to, like, did he say that when he was a billionaire? Yeah, it was two weeks ago.
God ain't finished. Joe Budden.
He was in Japan. He was singing.
He was just singing at his show. He said, Joe Budden,
God's not finished.
And the niggas
started texting me
with that.
I'm like,
God is done with me.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
You still got
other places
you were trying to get.
Word.
God's not finished.
Your God don't play about you.
I'm going to get down
to the bottom of you
and Kanye shit.
There's nothing
to get to the bottom of you.
Let me call Shade
and find out
if I go through your phone.
Nothing is happening
with me and Kanye. Joe, that nigga's teeth.
I can assure you. So diss him now so he can shoot at you.
Say something so he can shoot at you. He don't shoot at you.
You said mad shit. The last time he shouted you out recently, a couple of pauses before that, we was talking about how the shit that he's doing is ridiculous.
And what does he go on as part of saying? Every year I come on here and say, I'm not talking about him. He said, oh, Joe Bunnison.
Somehow he find a way. He find a way.
I didn't even have him written on my list
with all this shit y'all talking about. I had him
with him going back and forth with
Kim over trademarking North.
That's what I was about to talk about.
I thought that was kind of interesting. I thought it was super interesting.
I wanted to hear where y'all stood on that.
On what? If y'all saw the text exchange.
Without pulling it up. just off the dome.
Got it.
I guess there was a Puff song that had North vocals that Kim stopped.
Kim said, uh-uh, not the look I want, we dead in that.
So her and Kanye had a text exchange about who has the right to do that and who owns north's trademark which kim let him know or kanye found out once that block happened that oh shit it's kim and she can't do that so he came in hot and he was like yo amend this amend this or i'm gonna turn it up on both of us no one will be able to recover if you just read how kanye text people I can't see you wanting to text with him that's that's what I'm going to turn it up on both of us, no one will be able to recover. If you just read how Kanye texts people, I can't see you wanting to text with him.
That's what I'm saying. I feel like the world was in a better place when Kanye didn't have a phone.
Yeah, that was a long time too where he was like a proponent of just the laptop. What'd you say, Alfreys? Is more than that? It's more because on Playboy Cardii's album She's on the album And Kanye was supposed To have been on there And he was taken off So now he's tight That's kind of funny No this is funny now But now he's tight That's funny That's funny That's what all Spurs from to me Y'all don't feel That she should amend it Y'all don't feel That that he should have written? Hell no.
Why? Because of how he's acting on the internet? He's erratic. Yeah.
If you're fighting to get your kid on Diddy's album, I feel like that's a sign right there that you're not capable of making good choices. Oh, come on, man.
Stop it, man. Come on.
Would you put your kid on Diddy's album? Yes. Which, yeah.
The loved one that before, yes. No, we're talking about now.
Diddy, I don't, I'm not aware of an album that Diddy has right now. But if he did have an album, my child.
I didn't let y'all do that. You said you worked with Kevin Spacey.
Exactly. It's a love album.
I would have J.R., one of my children, on that album. Yes.
The love album. That came out.
Yes. All right.
Let me ask you, because that album came out before all the other shit started out. if he had an album coming out next month would you allow your child on that album I don't know and the title is crazy of the album no more love the title is something like let me tell you what she did though no.
No, no, it's going to stop it. The title was something like, hey, she wasn't innocent.
They sped up the film. No, I wouldn't do that.
Not nothing like that. They sped up the film.
If it was an album of just pure art, man, I mean, to be honest, I mean, we saw the video. But like what May said recently, that if he was on the list, he'll go visit Diddy, right? A lot of this stuff is alleged it still should be, regardless if it's guilty before innocent, it still should be innocent before guilty.
So right now, if he was coming out with an album that he had a record on and one of my children were on it, I would approve the sample. I would approve the But the point is, I think she has a right to say as a parent, I don't think that's a good look.
I do. I do think so.
You know what I'm saying?
And her, Ye, going back.
And then Ye also was making it like a race thing, too.
Like, now a white woman is controlling.
Well, I'm going to read a couple of tweets on that.
Because the first one is, I held my tongue about not being on Cardi album.
Him going to my ex to ask my daughter to be on a song two days later was too far.
Nobody finna play with me.
Who's him?
To my Cardi.
Cardi.
Because Cardi had to hit Kim
To get
The daughter on the album
That's funny though
And then he says
So Kim got the name and likeness
Over my black children
So a white woman has control
Over the name and likeness
Of my black children
And then speaks to Cardi
About putting my daughter
On a song with him
These dumb ass celebrities
Be trying to play with me
In my face
Thank you. and then speaks to Cardi about putting my daughter on a song with him.
These dumb ass celebrities be trying to play with me in my face. Isn't this...
First, he need to knock off that white woman shit. First of all, when he was with her...
Yeah, he married her. Right.
First of all, she wasn't white when you was fucking her, right? Right. Well...
No, no, no. He wasn't claiming her as white.
No, he wasn't. Yeah.
The claim wasn't that she was white. You know how black people say, she's Italian, she's Armenian.
They find all kinds of shit to say she ain't white.
Now, if it's saying
he ain't fuck over,
then she white again.
Yes, nigga.
But also, you made a choice.
If you choose to have a child
with a white woman,
then yes, a white woman
is going to control
what your children do.
That's the choice you made.
For it, yeah.
Let it, you got it.
You got it.
That's why the foundational blacks
say you're not supposed to.
The FBI?
That's why they say, you know. The FBI is to.
The FBA? That's why they say. The FBA is on their job.
They stay to behind Kanye. FBA is crazy.
Don't stop, please. And listen.
Leave him alone. Stop, we can't jump like that.
Because they down with you. Stop, please.
What I will say, I don't even want to talk about Kanye. I'll talk about me.
If any one of my baby mamas wake up and start rocking a swastika shirt, I'm not giving them rights to anything. Simple.
Boom. Yeah.
I agree. That's it.
I agree. Not a trademark, not a copyright, not a child support.
But do you think it's his right? I'm going to get custody. I was just getting ready to say, whatever rights you do got, we can already go talk about that.
That's different. You can take a race.
You rights Put them rights in the little Mason jar Mail it on over Mail it on over I agree with you on that A swastika Because even though Regardless of your views On things Like you not thinking About your kid Having to go to school And just be outside And walk around And Right It's like he's standing In the middle of the street With a swastika Having people record him he's just doing bullshit he's doing bullshit he's doing bullshit he's doing a lot of bullshit he's been doing bullshit for a while he's doing bullshit and not caring how it affects anybody else God's not finished with it or you no for real God's not done with you I think he is no this is it y'all cause you in your mood God's not done with you we don't give a fuck about that mood, nigga. You got to take care of us, nigga.
Fuck that mood, nigga. This ain't made, nigga.
We not made. This perfectly lines up to one of my depressing topics I had for y'all.
This lines up perfectly. This lines up perfectly.
But I didn't do it because I didn't want y'all to judge me For being depressed Let's hear it Pissing her off man She's doing the eye roll Go ahead Wait I didn't say nothing to Mel Go ahead Which one of us Was it me Mel I didn't even say nothing to Mel just now You didn't Go ahead Was it me Mel Go ahead I missed this one Yeah that was y'all What did I say You always tried to put it on me I didn't even know Mel was bad just now I don't know. Tell me.
It was you. You guys just really, really, it's tasteless as fuck.
Stop talking about that shit. It is not a light matter.
Don't do it. Step the fuck away from it.
What are you talking about? The maid shit. Don't mention it.
Don't talk about it. If you cannot be respectful about it, leave it alone.
I'm lost.
Carry on.
I didn't hear her question.
Mel, that wasn't to you.
That was more to Joe.
Mel, to bother him and say that we weren't helping him do anything. It was a joke to him
because he came in here saying that he was depressed earlier.
It was supposed to be between him and I,
but I apologize to you if that offended you.
Thank you. I will not crack that joke again.
Thank you.
Joe?
Depress this.
Depress this.
Well, it'd be cool
but chill for a minute.
I love when
someone else's trigger
defends me.
That's right.
Ha ha, nigga.
Yo, her whole booth
just trying to roll her eyes.
And you probably
didn't want to do that, man.
You better tell me.
Give me the look.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, you're right.
But when it comes
to something like that.
I apologize, man.
You got to stand strong for that.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That was even thinking.
Thank you. you want to do that, man.
You want to tell me. Okay.
Okay. Yeah, you're right.
But when it comes to something like that. I apologize, man.
You got to stand strong for that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
That was even thinking. Y'all, you...
I don't remember that. What was I talking about just now before? We were talking about kids tried my...
Yes. There's a lot of different things we can find depressing in here.
You pivoted this story you were about to tell us something about. My depressing question was, has life killed hope for any of you? And if not, then what are the things that you still have hope for? That's That's heavy.
Well, yeah, I told you it was one of my depressing topics. Nigga, what's up with you today, nigga? But then I was like, but wait, because while it started off rooted in depression, the more I thought about it, I was like, well, that's one of the great things about having youth on your side and being young is that you have hope for so many things.
You're still optimistic hasn't fucking kicked you in the face enough and as you get older right like i'm in the shower today at 44 like you know doing math like well another 20 to 30 years would be awesome and that makes things kind of finite right Like there's some things we can lose hope for.
Yeah, but that's where,
y'all gonna say it,
but that's where family and kids come in, bro.
Your hope now transfers into that.
Okay, I know that that's the cool.
That's the truth.
Listen to me.
I know that that's true for some and a cool cliche thing to say and do.
I too feel like that
When I look at my kids. And then I remember that, no, we're going to die and they're going to keep going and they're going to come to the funeral with the shades and shed some thug tears.
And then they're going to keep it pushing on their own journey. So even that dampens my...
Oh, you just want to be in a sad place then. Well, I'm just saying, you can feel good looking at your kid, but you can be dead and whenever you're dead and then that's it.
So that can get depressing too. You're going to die no matter what.
Answer my hope question, super dad. I just told you, yes, I still have hope.
Now the now the hope transfers into my hope for what so that i can bring her up to be a proper functioning adult in fucking society i can give her the things that i didn't have coming up like it's almost like i'm giving her a life that i just couldn't have like i'm access to schools access to things. I get a kick out of that.
That's my joy. When you love you, do you have hope for anything outside of your kids or your family-related stuff? Like personal hope? Yeah.
Any hope. Just hope.
That is my source of hope. It's hard to have hope in the world at large, I will say.
Shit is fucked up out there, so I look into them. I agree with ice.
It sounds like a weird question until you really get to trying to answer it. Niggas ain't got no hope.
I got hope. I got hope.
You don't have hope? I got hope. Fuck that.
I got hope to see my children, you know. Yeah, you niggas is hopeless.
No, it's not. No, it's not, my nigga.
It's not hopeless. Stop doing that, bro.
Yeah, you got to stop that, bro. Because you just don't share your feelings like that.
But stop doing it. You have to feel the same way.
No, no. You do.
You just party. When you have kids, you can't be selfish.
No, I do. But I think that kid shit is a scapegoat.
And the world is just much larger. All right, we got that.
Put that in our default box. Why is that a scapegoat? What if you're the...
Because put that in the default box. What that a skip what have you what have you put that in the default box and now what else is there but in the whole universe that you have hope for or that the hope has dwindled for what if you what if you not having hope affects your family what if you not having hope and you being grumpy or whatever it is affects your family affects how they move day to day? Family is important to a lot of us.
Having hope and inspiring and wanting them to know that no matter what happens, I'm going to be here for you. And I have hope to see you live and be the best person that you can be in this world.
Talk. That was beautiful.
I didn't think so. I'm just.
I'm trying new ways to wrap. I'm trying some new techniques.
How was that? Shut up, Mark. I'm doing a deal, boy.
He said it thanks to me. Workshop some things, yeah.
All right, you got it. I don't want to drain your life.
You got it. I get what you're saying.
I put hope in it. I mean, I agree with y'all on the kids in the future.
But I also, like, I think part of why I was an activist and part of why I do the work I do is because I actually believe the world can be better than we found it. I agree.
Against all evidence to the contrary, because the world looks like it's going to be fucked up and it's only going to get worse. But I've seen, like, struggles get won.
I mean, just in, like, the last 10 years, like, or the last 20 years, you've seen marriage equality. People thought that would never happen.
It could be something as simple as legalizing weed. Like, I remember when i remember when people said that could never happen and now like you can buy weed everywhere like the world can be so different in 24 hours or 12 months or 20 so i always look to the victories and be like we could change some other shit like we could we could change some people get housing we could change some people get health care we could change some people aren't oppressed anymore people get their land back like we could do shit if we organize that's my hope i don't always act on the hope sometimes i get caught up in the day-to-day just wanting to eat or hope my team makes the playoffs or hope that so-and-so is, you know, I hope that Aaron Rodgers don't come to the Steelers.
I got hope. Yeah, that ain't.
I got hope, goddammit. Yeah, that's a good hope.
But, like, there's other shit we can hope for. So, like, that's what keeps me energized.
That's what keeps me going. And hoping for it and working towards is two different things, would you say? Hell yeah.
Well, see, to me, that's the difference between hope and optimism. If you hope that the world change, but you work towards contributing to the world changing, right? Like, out there.
So, we can give you that and salute you because you try to make a difference. Sometimes, yeah.
You do the work. Yeah.
A lot of us don't have the determination, not saying we don't have the determination, but a lot of us don't have the opportunities to help the world get changed, or we don't have the knowledge that you may have.
And the work fuels the hope.
Like, the more you work, the more you be like,
oh, this shit is winnable.
Like, this is a winnable fight.
It's a hard fight, but it's a winnable fight.
That's why we say hope and not optimism.
Optimism is just like, everything's going to be all right.
It'll just work out.
Hope is against the odds,
and you got to be engaged in that shit,
and you got to actually know it's fucked up.
The odds are against me, but I can still win.
Real quick, the mood that Joe described earlier, I've gotten into that mood. Just looking at shit like, man, what the fuck is going on? I wouldn't necessarily say that you're depressed.
Hold on, wait, wait. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, I've gotten into that mood, like, looking at shit like... Yeah, you know what that shit you did? What the...
No, no, no, no, that's my girl. I look at shit in society, look at...
Just think about the shit that my children have to go through and just think about, just a lot of shit that he's saying I could relate to, but my work and my determination snaps me out of that. Like, if I sit in it, it fucks me up.
So I could relate to it. How does it distract you from it? It's a distraction, because I don't want to, because then, same thing with thinking that, damn, I'm not going to be here one day.
That still fucks me up.
Nigga, what if something happened to one of my kids?
Like all this shit, they had to take the train.
What if something happened to them?
Like, look, you can't even go outside and be free or you can't express yourself without being judged, maimed, or even attacked outside.
Like these things happen.
I know how I'm going to protect myself.
I know the lengths I'm going to go.
But when there's other people, when you watch other people, like when you say he watches his brothers and he got emotional. The same thing with my daughter.
My daughter Sweet 16 coming up. I started to shed a tear.
I look at all the old pictures in my phone of my children. I start to cry.
Same thing with J.R. Like, yo, pops, I'm not going to be here.
I'm going to go film for, what's my man, people's name for Sugar Hill. I'm going to go film something for Jewels and I'm going to film a cooking cooking show to watch J.R.
go on his own makes me a little like damn I gotta pay somebody for labor now no no because I pay him a lot of money but what I'm saying is that I do understand those sentiments and I share it with Joe I just have to trick myself and get out of it I can't sit in it too long because I lay been times when I was younger, 19, 20,
and my mom said this,
I lay in the house for months,
just in the crib in the dark.
I take a shower in the dark,
I lay in the dark,
and I had to snap out of it.
Once my back is against the wall,
I have to get to it.
I feel like what you're describing now in present terms is more
melancholy and nostalgia.
Kind of like a blend of the two, especially the nostalgic part. What does that mean when I can't let go of the past, man? Like that's just something that's bothering me.
Nostalgia to a degree. Yeah.
Like when you can't let it go, when you reminisce, I could have did this differently or I wish I would have did that differently or I could do the song. That's just, that's regret.
That's just regret. Yeah.
Or mixing the two. because I don't regret nothing but but if you're sitting there
saying damn I should
I could have did that differently
and you harbor on it
that's the regret
that is regret
but the nostalgia part
is sometimes thinking
the past was better
than it was
like really remembering
oh back then
everything was fine
everything probably
wasn't fine
yeah it was
just remember good times
about being great
it's easy to look
through rosy colored glasses
about to pass
and this is around the age
that nostalgia
really kind of like
starts to set in
oh hell yeah
got it
like really starts to set in
so
Thank you. It's easy to look through rosy colored glasses about to pass.
And this is around the age that nostalgia really kind of starts to set in. Oh, hell yeah.
Like really starts to set in. I try to live in the now.
Too much hope. Or depression for the future.
All y'all wake up every morning with the hope that you'll make more money. Is that true or false? True.
Yeah. True.
That's true. But like how much more? For me, it's the expectation.
Or like is there, or is the day creeping up where you look at it and be like, you know what? This is. That's it.
Well, I'm determined to go get it. Nah.
I'm determined to go get it. Like in my 30s I had hope in humanity.
And now it's like nah I don't think so.
I think this is it.
It's easy with the news
especially as much news
as you watch too.
That dateline and shit.
No.
You see the worst of us.
That's not the depressing part.
That's not it.
Because that's
I don't know if I'm speaking
for you. I didn't get none of these.
I got these thoughts from the new Equal That's not it. Because that's...
I don't know if I'm speaking for you.
Word, I didn't get none of these.
I got these thoughts from the new Equalizer commercial.
Right, okay.
Because one day you may have had hope
that Queen Latifah could do this thing.
And then you see the trailer.
Well, see, that's your fault.
She...
Well, Big Jersey, watch yourself.
Watch yourself, Flavor Unit.
It's not just music.
It ain't either. It ain't just music, Go ahead.
Mookie Down Productions. Throw you right off the stage.
Right off the stage. There's something wrong about Flavor Unit there.
In Jersey? Nope. Shit.
All right, but go ahead. No, I was just going to say, like, the Dateline stuff is more outlier stuff.
You know what I'm saying? Whereas the news, like, that's just the barrage of bad news and catastrophic news. Every fucking day we've got, like, breaking news and just like, oh God, what the fuck else is gonna happen? Like, we're all being kind of, like, worn down.
Do you, I'm sorry. No, go ahead.
Do you believe that, um, we kind of responsible for what we consume? Yes. A thousand percent.
So it's like your outlook. If you're watching the news, you watch the news more than my grandmother.
Like, you watch a lot of news. It's, what, 85%, 90% negativity on the news? Almost 100%.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? To focus on the news in that conversation would be narrow-minded or looking at things in a vacuum.
No, but I'm just saying it puts you in the mindset. We end this thing and we were born, our parents fucked one night, got it done.
Now we're here. This is the state of things out here.
Y'all have 40 years left, Max. It has nothing to do with the news.
What we consume just being here in its current state ain't the best. Ain't the worst.
It ain't the worst either, though. I didn't say it's the worst.
So it's better than it's been years ago. And that's why I put the news in there.
Because if you're consuming and you're getting all the negativity, all the negative reports, think it's it's much much worse than it is it's bad be clear but it ain't it's been bad it's been worse years ago what year for most of the years yeah for the most part it's been you you say all the time you wish you was in the 60s 70s really think about it, you really think you wanted to be around in the 60s and 70s? No. It was worse.
I'd have killed Bobby Womack. Bobby Womack would have been dead, dead, dead.
I ain't going to hold you. That's the question.
I ain't going to hold you. Sam Cooke didn't have brothers? Somebody supposed to.
Sam Cooke didn't have older cousins or somebody? I think about that a lot. That might be top three.
Bobby Womack should have been dead in front of the town, hung on top of the telephone boards like sneakers. Sometimes when you do enough trash shit on your own, you can't worry that much about what somebody else doing.
Yeah, but that was. Sam Cooke did a lot of trash shit.
Nah. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, stop.
Nah, fair. Read Aretha Franklin's biography.
That's all I'm going to say. What Sam Cooke did to Aretha Franklin? I'm going to say, what he did, bro? Tell us.
I'll just say Sam Cooke, and it wasn't just him. It was all the...
First of all, the R&B circuit and the gospel circuit were two of the freakiest places ever. Like, the gospel circuit was like, they was orgies and all kinds of shit, right? That's still coming true about the gospel.
Is this Aretha's book? Yeah, read David Ritz's book on Aretha. That's even better.
That's the one that has all the good shit in it. Send me the link.
I'll send you the link. I have a baby at 12.
But Aretha had a baby at 12, not by Sam Quick, but by somebody else. But Sam was getting down with a lot of R&B singers when they were 13, 14, 15 years old.
So, that's part of why he ain't noticed
what was going on
in his own household.
Oh.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
Don't do that.
Hey, Joe,
I'm with you.
Bobby was supposed
to have been.
Yeah, like Mark
saying the right thing again.
Bobby Womack
would have been dead
no matter what.
I don't care
what the fuck
is happening.
What?
Fuck is you talking about?
Whatever he did,
don't nobody deserve
for you to
wear their clothes
to the funeral,
take my wife,
and then fuck my daughter.
And it's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
They was nasty back then, man.
They're fair.
And we'll make songs about it.
That's the ill part.
Remember Roberta Fleck's song, Jesse? You know it's for Jesse Jackson. No.
No, I did not. Jesse, come home.
This bed is... Yeah.
Hey, fair. Hold on.
Get the fuck out. Yo, Mark, let me...
Hold on. Give me two seconds.
I didn't know that. Play that as your sleeper, please.
Roberta Fleck told me that. Give me two seconds.
What? Give me. You read a lot of select books.
Mark is ill. He knows that.
No, he said Roberta told him that. He went to all three rules.
I asked her if that was true. Roberta told him.
I read it, then I asked her if it was true. I don't mind saying it since she's passed away.
Rest in peace. Yo, I'm reading the lyrics.
It is. Read the book.
Jesse, come home. There's a hole in the bed where we slept.
Now it's growing cold. Jesse, your face in a place where we lay by the hearth all apart.
It hangs on my heart. Your face in a place.
Hey, Jesse, it's lonely. Come home.
Jesse was putting it down. Jesse was beating.
Wait. Oh, my God.
He was getting away from that Dr. King.
But to your point, you know who one of Jesse's background singers was in the 70s? I mean, who Roberta's background singers was in the 70s and 80s? One of Jesse's daughters. Same thing.
It's a lot of... Cross-pollination.
Yeah, cross-pollination. That's a good word.
That's a nice way to put it. I'm starting to be diplomatic.
I mean, this is before Dr. King died or ever? It's all after.
Anything you know about Jesse Jackson is probably after. Because King died in 68.
This was 70, whatever. Shnigga Shaw just putting things together in my head.
Shit, just making sense. He got off when that Dr.
King shit. He got up.
Yeah. Yeah, he stepped his shit up.
He got Dr. King out the way.
Now he became the figure. So Jesse was doing it.
Hatch his name out, put Jesse on top.
Yo, like, you never think about that, Mark?
He was dead, son.
Mark, I know you got some theories on that.
People have definitely thought about that.
Hopefully down the line you can share with me when he pass away or something.
Because he just be around.
Nobody say nothing to that nigga, son.
Who the fuck is he, yo?
I mean, he's a big important guy. Shout out to Jesse Jackson.
Shout out to my hero, Jesse Jackson. Wait.
Never mind. Never mind.
You ain't tricking me. You ain't tricking me.
He on your list? Oh, but that's different. That's personal.
Oh, okay. You know him personally? Yeah.
Jesse was a mentor. The first time I went to Africa was with Jesse Jackson.
He took me to Africa.
So if you knew anything, you wouldn't kick his back in right now?
Yeah, no.
I respect that.
No, I'll fall back.
But there's nothing to know because he's been perfect except for the public scandals.
Oh.
Yep.
Hopefully we don't get the Justine Island
report to come out.
Mark might have been.
Mark might have been on.
He was a plus one.
He might have been on Jesse's boat, nigga.
No boats, no islands,
nothing. I'm good.
Did you go to Million Man March?
No.
I wish I did.
I did not.
I wish I did, but I didn't.
Why didn't you?
It was a couple of reasons.
Part of it was in the middle of,
we weren't allowed to go.
Like, it was basketball season.
We weren't allowed to go.
And also, it was,
I had some ideological issues with it.
You know what I mean?
At the time.
I wish I had gone now, in retrospect.
I wish I had gone. Back then, you wasn't fucking with it.
I know what I mean? At the time. I wish I had gone now in retrospect.
I wish I had gone.
Back then you wasn't
fucking with it.
I still had the same issue.
The issues I have
then I have now
but I would have gone
just to be part of history.
Okay, so you still
ain't fucking with it?
A million people
marching against it.
Like,
marches are supposed to be
for a thing. Right? The March on Washington was the March on Washington for jobs and freedom.
You know what I'm saying? In 63. Like you march and protest a system.
To me, you march against your oppressor. You march against a power structure.
I didn't like the idea of a million black men getting together to march against themselves. For me, I thought that I would have marched for structural things.
I would have marched for systemic things.
I would have been fighting for power.
I understood Farrakhan's argument, and I don't think he's wrong.
I just would have organized the march differently.
Be careful.
No, I've expressed that to him directly.
Ooh.
And, no, it's not flat.
Nah, fine, man.
You told him.
A little tiny.
Tell him, man, look at my head.
Make sure you understand. Make sure that you're clear.
Yeah, no, shout out to Farrakhan. Shout out to everybody who was a part of the Million Man March.
You know Brother Mark. Oh, God.
So you would have organized it differently, what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, I would have organized it differently.
But I love the idea of us coming together in a spirit of love and tradition. I mean, to get a million people, a million plus on that mall was amazing.
That's nice, bro. It was a beautiful sight.
Holy shit. I hate y'all.
We can't never be serious, even though this has been a pretty serious podcast. Pretty serious, yeah.
A lot of morbidity. This has been a piss boy job at being serious.
You get serious and hop right out of it.
Right.
Let me tell you why I'm depressed.
Let me depress y'all
and then jump out.
You double-dutch with seriousness.
Do you have any hope, guys?
And then we're like, no.
And he's like,
this is too fucking depressing.
Yeah, then you crack jokes.
Yeah, that's my Polish shit.
Y'all get carried away
with the hopeless shit.
Like, I'm just asking Jesus.
Where's the therapist
for the crew when you need it? Jesus, lighten up. Pricks.
Hey, you a Knicks fan. Tell me about what's going on with Tracy Morgan, man.
He had that surfing surf? You eat the garden glizzies? He had that corned beef and cabbage. Oh, corned beef and cabbage, yeah.
What's St. Paddy's day? That nigga threw up on the side of the court.
Come on, man. On the side of the court.
He was from the front. Court side.
Right there. Right there.
His seat is right in the front by the table. Tracy Morgan has replied to that already.
He says it was food poisoning. It's the reason that he was throwing up court side at the Knick game.
That's unfortunate. And it's a spooky thing because we know Tracy to have had health issues in the past.
We don't look at it like somebody just throwing up like a regular person throwing up. So he says he's alright.
Thank God he's alright. I know he's a staple at these Knicks games.
We see him all the time. He made jokes off of that.
He was like, yeah, they want to know when I threw up on the court. That's a bad place to get sick.
That's the most than actually shitting on yourself. It's a great place to get sick, actually.
Why is it a great place? There's physicians on deck. Oh, okay.
That's true. Maybe not courtside.
But the bar hamlin might have gone a different way if he were at fucking lube oil. You're not wrong? He might not have got in the chest either though.
But I get it though.
I get it.
I get it.
It's crazy.
Would you be humiliated
from that?
From what?
Throwing up like that?
Fan was projectile.
That was like a cartoon.
That was like...
That in a video?
Yeah.
That shit looks like
a cartoon.
Would you be embarrassed,
Mel?
Yeah.
I'm thinking to myself right now,
every time I've thrown up,
I'm like, I know it's coming,
so I would have ran.
Not to say that this wasn't like...
He did it right right there.
If he ran, it was trying to run.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
Forget it.
What?
What?
I was about to make a joke and saying forcing yourself to throw up and actually throwing it was different. Oh, my God.
Going to the bathroom to get the hot dog you just ate out because I remember that trick. I see a lot of girls do it.
Wow. He was going to make that joke.
Yeah, I was going to, but I stopped. Good for you.
I see the girl. Because she's not playing.
She's not playing. I got to throw up.
I just... I don't want to take the balls that big.
Don't hit me, nigga. No.
Get away. What is wrong with you? Are you saying Mel was doing that? Shut up.
Mel, have you ever forced yourself to throw up before in life? Exactly, man. When I was like 11 or 12.
Not that. We're talking about as an adult.
No, then no. Mel, stop.
Why would I make myself throw up as an adult? Do you not know a lot of women that make themselves throw up after eating? You're talking about bulimia. See, here you go.
Do you not know anybody? Get out of there. No, I personally do not know bulimics.
I personally do not know bulimics. But it's something that people hide, so maybe I do, and I just don't know, and they've never told me.
Nigga, you hit it. I am not bulimic.
Don't start that fucking narrative. I'm about to stick at y'all motherfuckers with your stupid fucking narrative.
You clogged that toilet, and then he told you to go and hit it, throw it up. Yo, Mel.
Mel better lock it the fuck off. I'm so glad I never fucking threw up here.
Mel ain't mashing. All of a sudden, you come up.
Mm. Oh, baby.
I feel relaxed. Joe said, can you please stop using that bathroom? There was not a smelling sight.
I said, what the fuck were you doing? Yo.
Yo, y'all are horrible, man. Shout out to the band, man.
I fuck with you, man.
That shit is real.
I heard people throw up at the band.
Oh, no, I've done it.
I was a teenager.
You've done it?
I've done it, too, before.
To lose weight?
No, nigga, to go finish drinking some more.
Oh.
The boot rally?
Wait, freeze did it, too?
Not here.
I'm talking about, man.
Not here.
I've had too much to drink and had to throw up so I can get back to drinking. You're a drunkie.
Hell with the drunk. Hell with me.
Once I throw up I'm not drinking no more. Oh no.
That part. For me.
Could you just shut up for a second so I can gain understanding? Come on Joe. Let me hear it.
He's in his white boy bag. Let me hear it.
You did that before? Like stuck your finger in your mouth to throw up? No, not stuck my finger in my mouth. I know I got to throw up.
Like, all right, you know what? I'm feeling sick. I can't drink.
Just look at the light. What was your little throw-up move? I'm like, I'm feeling it, niggas.
He's feeling yucky, right? I got to go in the bathroom. Just throw it up.
Feeling yucky inside. No, nigga.
Do you at least get a little shot of peppermint schnapps Or something after that I've definitely done that though Get right back to party So you actually make yourself throw up No It's like when you gotta make the shit come wait. What? Put your finger up there for a little bit.
No.
Yo, you and your son be doing this.
You got to put your foot up.
You got to prop your foot up.
Go with the squatty potty.
The squatty potty.
Do that again.
The squatty potty helps.
Oh, careful.
There's a white couch.
Don't worry.
We are definitely moving on.
We are moving on.
It's over.
Holy shit.
Yo, y'all are sick.
Bulimic.
Y'all need problems.
Y'all got problems.
I'm sorry. a white couch.
No worries. We are definitely moving on.
We are moving on. It's over.
Holy shit. Yo, y'all are sick.
Bulimic.
Y'all need problems.
Y'all got problems.
That's fire, though, to get the amnesia
after the bulimia.
Like, just forget it.
Come on.
I got to sleep.
I don't get it.
My shit is queued up already.
Go ahead.
I look good.
Fuck what y'all talking about.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
You don't got a front of the show? Huh? You don't got a front of the show? Look at you, nigga. I'm talking my shit out.
Yo, the pay is locked. You can stop trying to do a better job, yo.
It's over. The fuck? All right, let's see.
Let's see if there's a... Joe Bundelli.
No, there's not no Joe Bundelli. Me and Mel in here, nigga.
You think we'll do a Joe Bundelli without Mel?
Yes. Without you.
No, don't try to put Mel in. You, nigga.
So she gonna be down?
Flip me right in here. If I don't a top, I'm lit me No it's live It's live You know what's happening All the live shit On Patreon I'm in Alright no There's no new progress We good Okay Yeah Yo if you over your Patreon And see Joe sitting in here On live I'll be tired He drive right drive right the fuck over here.
I swear to God, I'm right around the corner. Yo.
He be like, yo, because what he going to tell me on camera? Leave. Leave.
You got to leave, then he's fucking up the production. Let me sit down, nigga.
Let me just check my phone really quick to make sure there's nothing else that has to get in. Oh, that shit would be hilarious, yo.
Sorry if we made any of you fucking... We didn't mean to do that.
Shout out to Mell. Shout out to Mell.
If we made you sad, if we made you fucking throw up or shit yourself. Or fart in sleep.
Anything. Any bulimics out there are bad.
Yeah, if we made you call up your uncle and see if that was really your uncle when we apologize.
All right, let's see.
B-Dub, Randall, Gay Tweets, Tracy Morgan, LeBron at 40, make it make sense.
Nope, not getting me.
No.
It's right there, though. No.
But it's right.
No, he not.
No, he not. Nice.
I don't care. Black excellence.
No, he not. Mark.
No, he not. All right, but you do know.
No, no, we aren't. I ain't saying it.
But it is right there. And I got a brain.
Nope. Why he look so good at it it? I don't understand.
And then there's that company in Miami. Nope.
Niggas are so dumb. Anyway.
Nope. What else I got here? Hype for Snowfall spinoff.
They talking about that Snowfall spinoff real quick, real quick. Yes.
Hype for it. Hype for it.
Yes. I'm here for it.
Baby. What else is here? That sexy red Bruno song sure went away fast.
Real quick. Thank God.
Never heard from that one again. Thank God.
I would like to hear before we go from Mark and Mel about this. Jonathan Majors, did he aggress? Yo.
The aggress leaked call. Is it real? Is it not? Rolling Stone put this out.
Hey, I'm still going to see that movie next week. Magazine Dreams? Yeah.
Rolling Stone is usually pretty credible with vetting sources. That's what I'll say.
Usually. Usually.
I don't have any reason to think it's not real. But, you know, who knows? They released it, and he's on audio acknowledging that he aggressed.
That's the language he used, his former girlfriend. And she said, you—and she named, like, three things he did.
Like, you grabbed me, you choked me, all these things. And he was like, that was all covered under aggress.
Which is a little bit of a snarky take when you're apologizing for being violent to somebody.
And for a lot of people, that was not a smoking gun.
Confirmation?
Yeah, but confirmation of what he'd been accused of.
And a lot of people had been running for him
saying he didn't do anything.
He's innocent.
He's being framed.
And he sort of understated what he did.
And this audio kind of changes that.
The timing of it is interesting to me. That's what I'm saying.
The why of it is interesting. Because of the movie that he's going to hit? Yeah.
And his career is kind of being revived? Yeah, right. So I wonder if somebody said, look, I have this trump card and I'm going to wait until he's revived again to do it.
Because if you dump that all at once, he can then recover from it. Yeah, I agree with you.'s rumored to have it's anonymously just put out there that that part i don't know i i didn't see a source or a um a uh like an allegation of a source so i don't know but i'm genuinely curious about the timing of it but regardless of the timing of it if he did it people have a right to play that card whenever they they want.
So I'm not defending it, but it is interesting to think about the strategic
nature of maybe the release.
There's some people in Hollywood
who don't want Jonathan Majors to win, whether
you agree with him or not. It's true.
It's been very clear.
I've heard this on camera, and I've heard this behind
the scenes. There are people who feel very
strongly about him, honestly, in ways
that they don't about other actors
or producers who have done similar things or worse things. So'm curious to know the why of that and i don't think it's just as being black i mean that's part of it but i know even black people who have been able to recover so do you think that it's part of the rumor that he was extraordinarily difficult to work with like that was a pervasive pervasive pervasive, pervasive rumor.
But I'm always, I'm always, you know, kind of like skeptical about that. Oh, difficulty to work with kind of thing because there's other factors that play into it as to why somebody might want to carry with, carry on with that narrative.
And I've seen both. I've seen people who just walk with dignity and have like a commitment to what they want.
And people process that as audacity. Right.
But I've also worked with assholes. I mean, I could tell you, I mean, just a good example is VH1.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Worked with.
Nobody appears like that, honestly. I mean, most everybody here is great, you know, and those who aren't guys still working on them.
It's really like, I was thinking about like VH1, where like when I would work, particularly on like certain like reality shows where I could see a lot of the cast was dope and some people who on camera were called behind the camera were called hard to work with, behind the scenes they really were hard to work with. You can always tell about who the camera people fuck with.
True. Like when the the camera people be like, yo, fuck him.
They get the worst angle.
That's always a very good, I always believe them.
Because that's who will get the brunt of the bad behavior.
And so I don't know if Jonathan Majors is good to work with, easy to work with, or hard to work with.
But that narrative is probably connected to somebody feeling strongly about him.
And that could play into this.
So I don't know.
But I do know that this timing isn't good for Jonathan Majors.
But, I mean, like, we went through the entire trial process and he was found guilty on a couple of the charges. Related to being the aggressor.
So it's kind of like, well, what? It's all about reminding the public of why they shouldn't like you. So that you don't get the full redemption.
the timing is suspicious based on the fact that this movie, Machine Dreams, was everybody, it was like a really big deal at Sundance like a couple of years ago and then everybody, like Sony dropped it and it was like, okay, it's never going to fucking come out and now he's had like this resurgence and they're like, okay, we're going to put the movie out and now here we are again. Right.
Discuss'll see what happens the good thing is the if the public does not care care then it's over like he's able to finally move on and i have this thing hanging behind him because he may he may have known that audio was there the whole time and be constantly afraid of when it's going to get released and i'm not trying to cape for jonathan majors again whatever he did he should have accountability scariest part about all of it is that the public could not care about a domestic violence incident against women. Right.
Exactly. And that's actually the problem.
He should be held accountable. He should.
He should. Whatever.
But it seems to me he has been held accountable. Yeah.
When y'all do that, what's wrong with y'all? Us. Why are you being sarcastic? I'm not.
That's the scariest part, is that the public could potentially not care about something like that. So it is our job to keep it always at the forefront of things.
You know, listen, Jonathan Major shit, man. I see the groove.
You know, listen, let that nigga get back what he needs to get back, man. What he was charged with is unintentional.
What was it again, man? Willfully obtuse? No, that helping you. It's still up for you.
She ain't fucking with you this episode. She fucking with me.
She cool. That made you beyond the limit.
No, but that was to you, nigga, but I'm a chair. We didn't read it like that.
It doesn't matter who was two. It's still inappropriate.
We play inappropriate jokes. Yeah, but if somebody lost a parent and had to deal with that, that very thing, I mean, you could see how that would be a trigger point.
Understood, but I'm not thinking in real time about math. That's what makes it inconsiderate.
I am an inconsiderate person. Yeah, but I was saying, that's why somebody will be tight.
And what about you? Okay, let's do that. Now, hold on, let me get that in.
What about you? Yeah. I'm sure I am too.
I would apologize too, but I would understand why somebody would be tight with me. Yeah, but you still do inconsiderate shit? You inconsiderate to your co-workers? By far.
Yeah, that's not right. So you should understand and extend grace like flip a mean ass.
Especially if I say I'm just my fault. Yeah, I thought that was a great apology.
And I didn't double down on it because obviously I know it's sensitive. And I thought that was a great apology, man.
One of the best I ever heard. Seriously.
It was. Fuck you guys.
It was sincere. It was beautiful.
It's true. Accepted accountability.
That was wonderful. you just messed up by saying if but you know if if was the fifth we all be drunk bitch that was good wow way closer come on what a pod what a pod you guys that's what I'm talking about and the have to hide them.
Okay. Holy shit.
Sleepers. This guy has to suck for Michael B.
Jordan. He was just getting cool with him again.
He got to take the other pictures again. He was just like, all right, I will work with him.
All right, we back. I will work with him.
Soon. Soon, too.
More shit. Rollers, don't drop that shit.
Oh, fuck. Ah! Change my number again.
But it was. Right.
If I'm telling you that I aggressed you, don't fucking highlight. Highlight what is enough.
What the aggressed action was. Yeah, that was crazy.
Action was. I thought she was right.
You gotta do that shit. When did he have this conversation with her? Right after the situation? I don't have to.
It was crazy Action was I thought she was right You gotta do that shit When did he have This conversation with her Right after the situation I don't have the It was soon after But I don't have the exact Date or timetable Like how far after But yeah I mean cause sometimes Saying I aggress Allows you to Gloss over what you Actually did Got it Cause language matters Yeah So and he used Those words specifically And behavior is real important in those incidents.
Seriously.
Yeah, true.
Alright.
I'm done.
And I feel better.
That's good.
That's really bad.
That's important.
That's important.
Happy we could bring a little joy to you.
You guys did it.
If nothing else, we made Joe's day better. That's right.
That's a fact. See, your brain is different, bro.
All right, I got a sleeper. What happened to have been sleeping on Joe? And I have not left the Friday album.
Like I told y'all, I wasn't leaving the Friday album. So I'm playing yet another Friday sleeper.
And I don't care what y'all have to say about it. It's a great album.
It really is.
So this record is called Desert. New Joban.
New Joban. I lived about a thousand lives on my own.
Been waiting on the rain to come. I was told that I would see signs
on the way home, but I can't see the road. I wish I knew that I would be fighting for
the life that I chose. Now I'm in the middle of the desert And no one's And I've been searching for some water For days I've slept Oh, I'm in the middle of the desert Oh, oh, I'm lost Trying to find a way back home Closing in, so dry out in the desert sand I done seen them bullets turn, take out a better man So I know they got no mercy upon me Gotta know when I should hold, I'm afforded Can't stay here, it don't feel like home No love outside Make a heart turn cold The things I've seen Make a blind man lose hope So I'm stranded here On this lonely road Now I'm in the middle of the desert And no one's here And I've been searching for some water for days I swear Oh, I'm in the middle of the desert Oh, I'm lost Try to find a way back home Try to find a way back home on this lonely road Now I'm in the middle of the desert And no one's here Oh, I've been searching for some water for days, I swear Oh, I'm in the middle of the desert, oh I'm lost, trying to find a way back home I need some hope now Oh, hope now I'm never talking Oh, hope Tell me something, I need some hope now Now I'm in the middle of the desert In the world, sweetie I've been searching for some waters For days I'll swear Oh, I'm in the middle of the desert Oh, I'm lost Try to find a way back home Oh, oh, oh Brand new music From friend of the show Friday That record is called Dessert Dessert Desert Off his brand new album Available in your phone And on DSPs Right this very second Shout out to Friday That was super fire That was fire That's super fire He's got heat on there man That's the best shit I've heard So far from there From For me, besides the Meek verse.
Except the Meek, right. Yeah, that verse is...
Yeah, the verse.
Yeah, that's it.
Yep.
I'm going to go to Far Rock.
This is King Streets.
Cut the stove on.
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Thank you. I was there when Brody blew trial Made me shed a tear, he in the cell Listening to my music on the second tear You never been in drug raids when a cop is warm Wake you out your sleep, handcuff you with your boxes on Can't be my dog if I second guess what side you want Stepping with my prudas on that shit, you know I got it on Niggas broke cause they ain't paying attention We could've got it as a team, but they wouldn't listen Everybody wanna be mic, but that ain't the vision Pippa got six strings too, nigga Play a position I know real niggas that's broke There's some lanes with money Shit be tricky like that You know the game is funny When they told on my nigga I took a toll on a nigga One time for my vlog She never fooled on a nigga Fuck outta here Moms can't pay the bills Had to cut the stove on Them niggas they riding with you Then get your roll on You can't point to a nigga that I told on Bitch, I'm still on the block, this shit was so long And I been in this shit for so long Your music, what I put my soul on And I been in this shit for so long I'm still on the block, no, you were so long Couldn't pay the bills, I was pluckin' up that port of a stove I ate with it when I ran into that fork in the road COVID test, I had the shit that had to put up they nose And all the nights that we was cold and had to cut on the stove The heat up the crib, nothing used to be in the fridge Wishing them crackers, let my dogs go free on a bitch Headed out of town, about to work up in the motel Whole home know who caught the body, but they won't tell Them my homies, not the police, putting them bodies on Headshot to stop a nigga clock, you know what what time we on I can't fall in love, just fucking leave, I do them thotties wrong
Party in Miami, fucking bitches in the Batreon
Looking like I gotta switch in it to turn my diamonds on
First one to reach for anything, that's who we slot on
I'm rapping like the rent dude, that's cause it is
Every first of the month, the rent off is what it is, so I gotta get it
Moms getting paid the bills, had to cut the stove on
Them niggas ain't riding with you, then get your roll on
You can't point to the nigga that I told on
I'm in office one day, so I gotta get it Moms getting paid the bills, had to cut the stove on Them niggas ain't riding with you, then get your roll on You can't point to a nigga that I told on
Bitch, I'm still on the block, this shit was so long
And I've been in this shit for so long
The music, what I put my soul on
And I've been in this shit for so long
I'm still on the block, but it was so long
That's such a good drop.
That was Cut the Stove On by King Streets.
That's off of his project Sacrificed A Lot to Get Here Too.
In your phones, DSPs, all that good stuff.
All right, I'm going to Brooklyn.
St. Patrick's Day also means Sean Price's birthday.
This is figure four.
Rest in peace, Sean Price.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. Why is my money say thug invested? No disrespect to Duck Down Records After this go round a nigga looking for the exit piece Sincerely Pyrex Pachon Cookie cut it and spit it on alright.com The vet earner of Stripes the Skett Burner Tears in my eyes when thinking of Hex Murders I don't parlay with the crude nigga I don't wale of the nude niggas.
Hardcore rap and Mary J. Blige records.
The guard gon' snap and waving to Five Reckless. Sean Price the best rapper in Brownsville.
Don't know me, by the time this song done, you clowns well. Hurt something, nigga.
Know what I mean? Fuck out of here. Grown man rap, nigga.
I gave my son to fuck one of y'all young rappers up. Words of fuck out of here What up Eli? Ah, where was I? Oh yes, Sean Carter is nice But Sean Price is the best Sean gone, no Sean Dawn Sean is a dawn, I don't wear Sean John Army suit, blackberry brandy is long johns Matching cheese Timbs, you separate weed stems Weed carrier,proof ass Tesla, got the spray adjuster, left for Rockaway and Chester Too old to rap, too young to whack Ten fingers, two hands, my nigga The guns clap, pow I don't like niggas no more Eight figure dreams, nigga, but the figure is four These are words from a thousand years Selling crack and appease the skies and some housing gear I fucked up somewhere down the line But I got my shit in order The crown is mine That's figure four, Sean Price Happy birthday and rest in peace To the absolute legend Big Malfour, what kind of eclectic jammage do we have today?
I really like that track that you just played, by the way.
Mine is called Obsessed.
Zandros and
Limmy.
Okay.
Okay. Hey Cause you're on your knees Baby, rest in peace
If it's up to me, I wish you were your meant to be I bet you were blessing now, kind of your blessings now Know I can't stay around, but I still hold you down Got a time to stay high You can sleep through the night No, you can't live without it You know I got to, I don't love Now you try to fight it, fallin' deep about it Man, a day and night, you can lie to me, but it's on your mind Always I'm in your feelings, comin' the weekends Know I'll always make you right Tell me that's your mind Make it worth my time I want you to need me Like you believe me Say another lie Save my mind on fire Like you never felt this high So close Lost another one Cause you're scared to get too close You keep running out Till you show up at my door Is the the time with me, it's the time you're not alone Yeah, I know you know that Got you up to sit down, kinda young like it stays down Know I can't stay around, but I still hold you down Gotta dance so high You can sleep through the night But you can't do that You keep trying to go crazy. Mark.
that was just And Lemmy, obsessed. I need the Sleeper King coming back soon.
You keep trying to go crazy.
Mark?
That was a slap, buddy. Coming back soon.
I'm going old school.
This is the 30th anniversary of the Roots.
Do You Want More album?
Okay.
I'm coming with Silent Treatment.
Regular version?
Hey.
Regular version or remix?
Hey.
This was my shit. Here's my shit.
Here you go.
Treat me, baby.
Can't you say what you mean to me? Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Can you see what you need to stop giving me the silence Treatment baby
Can't you say what you mean to me?
I wanna do it constantly
But you keep neglecting me
And treating me silently
Girl you know that you need to stop giving me the silence Treatment baby Yeah juicy, what you mean to me I wanna love you constantly But you need to keep letting me And treating me silently Yo, I had a queen named Amina Height 5'7 Caramel complexed, body like heaven Met her through the sister of my man Big Vince Like some shit from out the flicks, we've been in love ever since She called me her chocolate brother, I call her my sugar sister New shory could work her since before I ever kissed her I never dissed her, painted my picture to hit But because sex she wasn't where she started flippin' and shit
Like listen man, I'm Queen Amina
Amina's not no freakin', that game is weakened
Keep trying to hit, I could quit speakin'
Tariq, in fact, you bein' black thought, don't get you closer
I dig your butt won't bone ya because I'm so called supposed to
Most of them would, but that couldn't be me, that's not my flavor
Go home and think about that, maybe later on I'll page ya
I contemplated, and then concluded she was fluffin' Steady pursuin' screwin', gettin' nothin' but the solid treatment Maybe one I'll page you.
Treat me with a name Can't you see what you mean to me?
I wanna love you cause to me
What you mean?
They've got to me
Treating me silently Girl, you know that you need to stop giving me the silence Treat me, baby Can't you say what you mean to me? I want to love you This is a song where I was't used to waiting I want some Marvin Gaye healing Feeling is real inside I slip and slide My ride will keep you occupied I'd love to get with it like that But my baby's kitty cat's Captain Lock Love boat is docked at the shore And what for? Later for groupies on tour Why won't my sugar call me no more? I mean, my queen gets upset Rejecting and sexually neglected Saying I'm more sewer than DOS effects And close-minded It's like I'm blinded by the skinning I'm into women Because of that, this one's ending communication Temptation played the vandal Freaking my brain, my mind Ripping the handle on physically scandalous acts Yo, she knew what I wanted But she fronted Busted Girl, you know you need to stop Keeping me in the Treatment baby Can't you see what you mean to me I wanna love girls to me But you keep the clapping me And treating me silently Girl you know that you That's the silent treatment roots The song goes on with saxophone solos And all types of shit A classic And the remix That shit still feel good Yeah You know that was great That was great A blast from the past Indeed Sir Uh Alright See what I see Do you see what I see Good. Alright Good day mates
Yes sir
Good day
Good times
To those that still here
For those of y'all just tuning in
We appreciate you
When I walk into a room
Niggas feel a slight breeze
Stay a little while
Till they feel they might freeze Thank you. Hey, yo.
Hey, yo. Hey, yo.
When I walk into a room, niggas feel a slight breeze. Stay a little while till they feel they might freeze.
Never understood why they never like me. Because when I lock the door, they turn out.
If you're still here by the time of this recording, maybe we didn't depress you too much with our morbid talk. It'll feel like these.
Size 10 never find me in a tight squeeze. At the airport, minutes before my flight leaps.
Round trip tickets to who knows what they tickets to who knows where Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until the next time Previous plans, they spalling I paid you a new farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir So long about a simple head now will suffice.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have Y'all hold it down Yeah, you know who Yeah, yeah, no doubt Remember the baddies are insecure The stagnant women wanna travel The closed-minded women want you to teach them things Spending too many nights on a hindi getting right Woo! I said it all too Perfect You're your bad Spending too many nights on a hindi getting right I'm bugging Yeah, this. Tell it like it is the road.
At a thousand degrees Celsius, I make MCs know. Fuck my record label.
I just need a courtesy of myself. Maybe it's a way how I maintain thresholds of pain.
I'm walking across the sunbed for looking for shade. I rearrange ribcage like a 12-game.
We gone, man. Y'all hold it down until the next time.
And all that, brother.
Get your wig pushed back.
What's up? Anybody doing anything fun this week?
Anything fun this week?
Work, work, work.
No.
Work, work, work.
That's what it is, baby.
Get into the bag.
My wife out of town.
I sent her up for a retreat, a little spa for five days.
Ooh.
I'm rocking solo with me and the boy.
Got it, got it, got it.
Got it.
That sounds like a good time.
Thank you. up for a retreat, a little spa for five days.
Ooh. I'm rocking solo with me and the boy.
Got it, got it, got it. Got it.
How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? Life is good, man. Life is good.
Sound like good times. I got no complaints.
Mel, what's up with you this week? Anything, anything, anything? Just work. Work, work, work, work.
Hot and be. All right.
I'm still waiting on that movie, bro. I want to drop..
Okay. We don't matter, nigga.
Hot and ball, nigga. Exactly.
April fucking first. April fucking first.
Hey. Ah.
Hey. Oh, shit.
Don't wait to see man Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Y'all are dead.
We'll be back. Say that.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. Y'all hold a damn, we'll be back same time, same place.
News your back.
News your back.