Episode 805 | "Support The Lie"
Beaten and battered from their recent basketball outing, the JBP kicks off the latest episode discussing how their bodies are feeling days later (3:07) before sending their condolences to Angie Stone’s loved ones following her tragic passing (33:30). The crew then turns to the Oscars 2025 (45:25) which includes Adrian Brody & Halle Berry’s kiss (52:20) as well as some criticism surrounding Zoe Saldana (1:00:23). Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis and Lamont Roach Jr.’s fight over the weekend (1:27:30), Sixers Paul George says he’s taking a break from podcasting to focus on the rest of the season (1:44:32), and **SPOILER ALERT** reactions to the ‘Paradise’ season finale on Hulu (1:53:30). Also, Notorious B.I.G.'s catalog is reportedly on sale which leads to a conversation on IP, being blackballed, and life’s roadblocks (2:08:51), the latest on Anthony Edwards status as a parent brings the room into a discussion on patriarchal designs & culture (2:50:43), and much more!
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Transcript
Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 1
I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,
Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.
Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.
Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.
Speaker 1
I'll tell you on air. Don't start.
I thought we were on air already. No, we're on now.
Oh, we here.
Speaker 1 Don't start. Let's start your shit, yo.
Speaker 1 Shit.
Speaker 1 Hi, my injured brethren.
Speaker 1
How y'all feeling? Kevin Gates. Good day, my brothers.
What are you asking me?
Speaker 1 Yeah, come on, Kevin Gates.
Speaker 1 Here you go.
Speaker 1
I'm not supposed to be here today, today, bro. Why not? Why? Where are you supposed to be? On vacation.
What happened? Oh, what happened? What happened? Oh, I have an event coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1 Shorty had a change of plans? No, no, I just have an event coming up this weekend. So, you know, I had to stay back and focus on that.
Speaker 1 Priorities. Promote it.
Speaker 1 Promote it. You'll be in the positivity highlighter? Yes.
Speaker 1 I got the womb this weekend.
Speaker 1
I may not be here Friday, but you know, I'm here today. I just want to show moral support.
Damn, man. Fuck.
Speaker 1 Hypothetical players for you.
Speaker 1
Flip won't be here at the next part, and I'm sad about that. No, you're not.
No, that's just. Behind the scenes, you were just talking shit to me just now.
No, I wasn't. I said I thought I told you.
Speaker 1
Hey, nigga, go ahead. Go, nigga.
Go. Yeah, you can leave whenever you want.
I ain't going to beef about it. Yes, sir.
And you have an understanding. All right.
We got to understand it.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1
I'm here. Happy to be here.
Happy to see you all.
Speaker 1 It feels good to watch a bunch of old men
Speaker 1
yawn and be hurt while I'm over here young and I can kick my legs off stretching. You didn't do anything.
You ain't young right there, bro. You're young.
You ain't young.
Speaker 1
You're not young. Two more years to 40.
That's not young.
Speaker 1 Listen,
Speaker 1 I'm going to hold on to it. I'm going to hold on to it.
Speaker 1 I'm about to dye my beard. I'm about to
Speaker 1
get some surgery, lose some weight. I'm about to do something.
I need to hold on to that. You're at a BBL? Maybe.
You're going to dye your beard for real? I am.
Speaker 1
Shit, too gray, yo. Like, come on.
I got a big gray patch right here. Hold on.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not even gray right.
Speaker 1
That's the annoying shit. Yo, it ain't even gray right now.
I'm not even proportioned right. Like, I got two big gray patches.
Speaker 1 Chin perfect.
Speaker 1 Means you didn't stress enough.
Speaker 1 You like?
Speaker 1
That means that's stressful. You didn't stress enough.
You lived a good life. Are you crazy? No, you're right.
That's what it means. You could go down to just the goatee.
That's what it means.
Speaker 1 I'll be like, one of them Chris Hansen blowfish.
Speaker 1 I only want to be with you.
Speaker 1 How are y'all playing? This is how we be here for five hours. I'm leaving at a certain time.
Speaker 1 What's going on today? Why are you leaving early? Nothing. You got to go rest.
Speaker 1
All right. Ice bad frames.
Everything that's been going on. The bed.
Speaker 1 The bed.
Speaker 1
Fucking leg compressions and cryotherapy. I forgot to break out my little massage gun though.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I mean, you're dedicated to the work because why injured?
Speaker 1
I'm twisted. Yeah.
I'm twisted.
Speaker 1 I mean better than yesterday yeah
Speaker 1 yesterday is the rough one second day is the worst yeah second day you kicked it nah my Sunday was bad I couldn't walk we went to go
Speaker 1 for the people unaware we went to go we had the bright idea
Speaker 1 genius
Speaker 1 the genius plan of going to rent a gym on Saturday night at 6 p.m.
Speaker 1
and play basketball. That was the problem.
Yeah. The start time I think was really the big issue.
We're all waiting.
Speaker 2 What would have happened if it started at 1 p.m.?
Speaker 1 It would have been better.
Speaker 1 Amen.
Speaker 1
Just fucked up. You don't think so? I don't think so.
You would have got hurt with the sun out. I don't think so.
Our bodies are ready for bed at six o'clock. We need to get that early.
Speaker 1
I was falling asleep on the way to the gym. Like, I was like, damn, this is normally my nap time.
So I think my body was a little confused.
Speaker 1 Why are we doing things? And then the closer we got to the gym, you know, like the closer closer you get to the bathroom when you got to use it, like you start pissing on yourself a little bit.
Speaker 1
Like you piss on your thigh a little bit. Turtles start coming up.
Little yellow stains
Speaker 1 on your drawers. Just a little sprinkle.
Speaker 1 Like it's that. The closer we got to the gym, my body was telling myself, Yo, dog, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 What are you doing right now? And then we got there, I said, you know what? Let me stretch. And during the stretch,
Speaker 1 I said, You stretched. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah. I was there early.
Yep.
Speaker 1 And during the stretch, I'm like, this,
Speaker 1 I'm tired now.
Speaker 1 I was tired from the little shoot around.
Speaker 1 And then I've grabbed a ball and did a little shoot around.
Speaker 1 And I say, yo,
Speaker 1
I'm tired. I think I jammed my thumb and shoot around.
That's really what
Speaker 1 the most pain is for me. God, I have so much
Speaker 1 respect for
Speaker 1
anybody that's ever played basketball at any level, yo. Rudy Fernandez, Hernandez, Jose Alvarez, anybody I ever thought was J.
Cole.
Speaker 2 Obama.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Anybody that's ever played ball, yo, my, my, oh my God, yo.
I haven't decided if I need to play more basketball or completely retire. Yo.
It's one of those.
Speaker 2 I think it would have been okay if you had better shoes, though.
Speaker 2 I think you would have been okay if you had better shoes. Maybe.
Speaker 1
What you was balling in? Poobas. Oh, yeah.
Low-top. And jeans.
Speaker 1 I was just jeans. Jean shorts.
Speaker 1 Jean shorts is crazy.
Speaker 1
The answer is more. I think so.
More. The answer is more.
It's more.
Speaker 1 But you won't,
Speaker 1
you'll feel better. This is the first time I played.
I played competitive basketball twice in the last 20 years.
Speaker 1 Saturday being the second.
Speaker 1
Dog, I thought. That's not enough.
No. It ain't 20 for me, but
Speaker 1
it's a good eight. That was the first time I probably hooped in like eight years.
I thought I had an advantage because it was my second time playing
Speaker 1 in five. Right.
Speaker 1 I played a few weeks weeks ago. You know,
Speaker 1 yeah, no.
Speaker 1 I got to a point, I thought I was going to have the jump, too, because I shot on Friday.
Speaker 2 We all thought you were going to have the jump, but
Speaker 1 my body.
Speaker 2 It didn't really turn out to be a lot.
Speaker 1
It didn't turn that way at all. I ain't going to lie, though.
Pre-injuries, that shit felt amazing. It did.
Oh, even gasping for air felt amazing. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
Like, being tired, all of that shit. Pick left, watch out.
The bump,
Speaker 1
all of that shit felt good. Oh, it was fun.
My feet ain't get the memo. Like,
Speaker 1
my brain is like, yo, I had Keeves sticking me. I thought that was a little insulting.
I'm like, oh, my God. Nah, Keeb was the highest.
Keeb was the MVP. Shit, Keep.
Keep shows the MVP, but
Speaker 1
Keeves in shape more than all of us. That's what I'm saying.
Keep staying healthy. Keeves showed high basketball IQ.
He did. Was in great shape.
That IQ shit, as you age, you start to see.
Speaker 1 Because our bodies ain't good for shit.
Speaker 1
That's good for me. I was like, yo.
Like, cool, I had a good time. That was a great idea.
Next time, we'll do things differently. I have some subs.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 We could have read threes and news.
Speaker 1
We'll have some subs there next time. Because when I posted the picture of me and Mark looking half dead, laying on the floor, like the niggas I know that hoop a little bit, they was hype.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yo, your bum ass went out there. Let me know next time.
Let me know next time. It's like, okay, I can get some subs in this thing.
But I think that's exactly what my 44-year-old ass needed.
Speaker 1
Yeah. That's exactly what I needed to do at 44 on my sit down on the couch and talk job for the last 10 years.
I needed to go out there and run my body around and see the effects of the shit.
Speaker 1
And boy, did I. Wake-up call.
Boy, did I? I work out. And I thought that was enough.
It's not enough. It's not enough.
I work out. It's not enough.
Speaker 1
If you don't play ball, what they say is when you're young, you play ball to get in shape. Right.
And when you get older, you have to get in shape to be able to play ball.
Speaker 1 Because when you hit your 40s,
Speaker 1
your skill diminishes with your lack of conditioning. So you can't shoot if you don't have any electronic shots.
You can't shoot your mobility. Coordination is off.
Speaker 1
Just even shooting a jump shot, you're not planting your feet the right way. All that shit.
Yeah, my mechanics were horrible. It was horrible.
You drove us. We think we just got it.
I got it.
Speaker 1
Look at this. I go out there and pick the ball up.
I got it. The funny part is how I was talking before this game.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1
I had the 31-year-old picture of myself. I think it's a good thing.
I think that since every day in here, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up. What happened to y'all? What'd you say? A little hate.
Speaker 1 No, no.
Speaker 1 Let's make some time for a little hate. Go ahead.
Speaker 1
Absolutely. She said you think you're 31 every time it comes in? No, what he just said.
She's talking about the shit tongue. You talk about the shit tongue?
Speaker 2 No, no, no. Thinking that, you know, oh, I'm talking about that.
Speaker 1 She's talking about that male macho bravado about a lot of topics that will
Speaker 1 lead with our ego.
Speaker 2 You guys definitely support each other's delusion of that.
Speaker 1 Yeah, she has a real version of what we all look like
Speaker 1 through the female gaze.
Speaker 1
But she won't ever tell us because our egos are fragile, too. And she knows that working with us.
Listen, I'm in. That's really the truth.
It is.
Speaker 2 I'm an interloper here. I'm the only girl.
Speaker 1 But it's also reciprocated. How was that? What do you mean? Ho wham.
Speaker 1 You're saying you're a spring chicken yourself.
Speaker 2 I've never claimed to be so,
Speaker 2 but the record is the record.
Speaker 1 No, I'm saying that.
Speaker 2 We can see where Melissa is five to six days a week on her Instagram page, getting her mobility up, getting her strength and endurance up.
Speaker 1 Talk about it. No.
Speaker 1 What sport do you play?
Speaker 2 Pilates.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1
if you were to play what we just did, what would that be? Volleyball, softball, volleyball or baseball? You, you, baseball, softball. You are healthier than us, clearly, in some areas.
Yes, she is.
Speaker 1 The reciprocal part is
Speaker 1 we are much healthier than you in some areas.
Speaker 2 Oh, please elaborate.
Speaker 1 I can't. I can't crazy.
Speaker 1 Are you talking crazy? First of all,
Speaker 1 you think I was bored
Speaker 1 Wait, what did he say?
Speaker 2 You think that's what makes
Speaker 1 a lot of us are in committed relationships.
Speaker 2 Have you heard the statistics about single childless women being
Speaker 2 healthier than their counterparts who are married?
Speaker 1 I'm very well aware of it. I'm very well aware of it.
Speaker 2 However, men who are in relationships are healthier than their single counterparts.
Speaker 1 Okay, that's true. Yes.
Speaker 1 I was going to say, quote the statistics. No, that's the.
Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's the point.
Speaker 1 She be ready to go.
Speaker 1
She got all the money. Don't play with me.
I got fucking. I'm the fuck out of there.
I'm out of there.
Speaker 1
I'm out of there. I'm not verse as the male cake.
I know it's not a point. Nope.
I'm out of there. I'm out of it too.
Are you crazy?
Speaker 1
I just feel like a lot of us are in healthy relationships and we're happy. No, but here's my icing on the mail cake, and then I'm out of here.
There you go. There you go.
No, I think that.
Speaker 1 Some of us would be able to handle your truths about us better than you would be able to handle our truth about you.
Speaker 1 So just keep that in mind as you're calling us fragile.
Speaker 1
You use the word fragile. But you agree.
You use the worg. But you're fragile.
Speaker 2 I didn't say that.
Speaker 1 Our shit is fragile. It's all right.
Speaker 1 But that's also what I learned out there. I'm fragiler than I thought.
Speaker 1 Yo,
Speaker 1
I'm fragiler than I thought. Yo, you know what I fucking thought of in the following days after we worked out? You know what I'm so grateful for? Advil.
You know what I never?
Speaker 1 Yes, Advil.
Speaker 1 Ice.
Speaker 1 Knees.
Speaker 1 Ankles, thumbs. Ankles, thumbs is one for me.
Speaker 1 I never thought about just how many times I use my knees
Speaker 1 because I'm blessed to be healthy. But all that sitting and bending and getting up, nigga, I almost killed myself trying to take a shit the other day.
Speaker 1 I almost missed the whole toilet.
Speaker 1
Sit down and be wrong. I almost rock.
I missed completely
Speaker 1 thinking I know where shit is. No, and when you get up, you gotta rock.
Speaker 1
Rock? You get up. You gotta be flagged.
You get naked.
Speaker 1
I had to reach for something to get up the other day. It has been bad.
I took like an hour-long bath like a bitch. Oh, my God.
Epsom? Yes. That shit worked, too.
Epsom is the truth.
Speaker 1
I've never had that. Success with Epsom before.
That shit got my ankle right. You've never been 40 before.
That's true.
Speaker 1 Epsom don't play with them.
Speaker 1
That's what happened with me. My girl tricked me into go doing some shit I never heard of.
She sees me in the bed dying and crying like a bitch. She says, yo, I'm going to book you some cryotherapy.
Speaker 1
She got athlete kids. Cryotherapy.
She got athlete kids, so she thinks she got to step up and some information. Thank you, baby, for helping me out.
Spot around here, bro. Book it.
Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck that is.
Speaker 1
Ice bath shit? I don't know what they call it. I don't know what it is, though.
I'm just telling a story. I don't know what that is, but your girl say it can help you.
She loves you.
Speaker 1 She got your best interests. Go ahead and book the shit.
Speaker 1
I go in there. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but I'm in this bitch.
And they point me to some little closet and they say, all right, get down to your boxers and put all this stuff on.
Speaker 1
I start looking at the little utensils, like a Resident Evil or one of them games where you unlock some shit. It's gloves, earmuffs.
Wait, it's gloves and then mittens for the gloves. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
It's earmuffs, a big-ass fucking thick-ass scully. Some eye shit.
Oh, shit. It's mash and I'm waiting.
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, you like Mr.
Freeze.
Speaker 1 I was like, wait, wait, wait, you doing in in there? Like, oh, yeah, you're just going to get in this thing. Have you done this before?
Speaker 1 We're just going to make this negative 175 degrees, stand there for about three minutes. Any songs you want to listen to? You did three minutes?
Speaker 2
That's all you do. That's the highest.
That's not the highest.
Speaker 1
You got the three minutes. It's not the highest.
Yes. You got the three minutes.
That's gangsta. That's not true.
I did 245. I was about to say, that's gangsta.
I was going to say that.
Speaker 1
But there was a four-minute option. Apparently, my stepkids do four minutes.
Wow. Yeah.
Twice a week. Yeah, that shit.
The homies do four minutes. So I go in there.
Well, I say Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 That's my new thing now. The MRI people ask you, what'd you want to hear? Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 What do you want to hear? You guys all you want to hear? Throw on some Chris Brown. So I get in there.
Speaker 1 That shit fog right up.
Speaker 1 Now you can't see shit. I'm in there freezing talking about some fucking Robotus.
Speaker 1 I don't know how this shit got me breaking
Speaker 1 right now.
Speaker 1
Baby. That was the slowest 245 in the world.
Baby, you can't. The clock right in front of you.
Clock right in front of you. That shit's clicking close.
Close your eyes. That's what it gets.
Speaker 1 We take time for granted. Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1
Three minutes is some shit now if you're doing some shit. Yeah.
But I did it. I got out of there.
I want to thank you guys for coming out. I'm glad everybody came out Saturday.
It was fun to say.
Speaker 1
It was fun. Even with the injury, it was fun to say.
Yeah, that shit was fire.
Speaker 1
Like, I'm mad I got fucked up. Because I'm like, yo, we could do this every two weeks.
Every three weeks. Shout out to the Hebrew Globetrotters, my man that was in the building.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? Buckle. Shout out to Buck, D.
Did, Dirk. Thanks for taking it easy on us, Buck.
Mike, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.
He was definitely taking it easy on us.
Speaker 1
Buck has been Jersey City All-American athlete for 25 years now. Forever.
25 years now. Yeah.
And you know what I realized?
Speaker 1 That Mark is a man's, like, even though I feel like he pandas, he's a man's man, right? Because
Speaker 1
when his wife came in the building, that nigga turned to Super Saiyan. He made shit.
I said, oh, look at Mark. I watched him carefully.
Super what? Super Saiyan. Meaning, a power-up.
Speaker 1
Super Saiyan is Dragon Ball Z. Like Goku powered up, and you just powered up.
And I'm watching. She was there from the first play.
Yeah. Nah, nah.
Nah. I'm saying, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1
All right, let me get my shit off there. Let me get my shit off, man.
I know you want to save him, white man. Listen.
Speaker 1
Sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm saving you.
Speaker 1 I just saw Mark when I watched, because Mark was, you know, shooting, but he just, to me, he went harder, nigga. He said, I'm not going to look like a chump in front of my lady.
Speaker 1
And she was supporting him. Well, that's how I play anyway.
I was talking shit to court.
Speaker 1 You was talking shit.
Speaker 1
From the first play. No, fuck that.
If he don't call foul, he don't get the ball. I'm like,
Speaker 1
okay. That's nice.
It's real now. Yeah,
Speaker 1
because Imani gave Joe a foul. He's like, yo, he ain't called.
Yeah. He don't get no ball.
Fuck that. Imani really tried to hurt Joe.
That's who we are. No, Imani and Joe was going at it.
Speaker 1
I don't know. What's my favorite thing to watch? I don't know what was up with them two niggas.
That's suspension. That's suspension.
Speaker 1 Joe, like,
Speaker 1
Joe, pay you back. Joe, like, he's trying to hurt me.
He came in. No, Imani really, you're right.
Imani got some type of anger pent up about something that I don't know about.
Speaker 1 He tried to hurt me. He bought brass knuckles.
Speaker 1
Yo. That nigga one play landed on my foot like on purpose.
I felt like I was playing against that little dirty white boy that's on Phoenix now from Duke. Grayson Allen Allen.
Speaker 1
I felt like I was playing Puerto Rican Grayson Allen. He tried to end me out there.
God damn it. Yo, he was intense.
I was like, yo, you want to switch? He was like, no.
Speaker 1 I will not switch.
Speaker 1
I had to switch out with him at some point. Joe was giving him buckets all day.
Yeah, after the fifth bucket, I was like, hey, let's switch.
Speaker 1 He was like, no. Then you switch.
Speaker 1 Back to that pride, back to that fragile. Ego.
Speaker 1
Yo, that's another thing. That is one of the moments where your ego has to be tested.
When your teammate look at you and be like, yo, you want to switch? Yeah,
Speaker 1 let's switch.
Speaker 1 Take this.
Speaker 1
No, especially when you're over there getting cooked. Yeah, no, you got to switch up.
If you're getting cooked up, you're getting cooked. You got to switch.
Speaker 1 You got to switch. He ain't want to switch.
Speaker 1
I was happy. He ain't going to let nobody.
Five points. He going not letting you switch.
Five. You might have had more than five.
I held on to him.
Speaker 1 At the point where I asked him to switch, I said, switch, I'll take him. He was like, no, I got him.
Speaker 2 And y'all were like, no,
Speaker 1 it's a cute 12. He had four to 11.
Speaker 1
He had eight. Joe had eight points.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Eight and I'm going to go.
Joe's MVP.
Speaker 1 Seven of them were on the RB singer. Oh, no.
Speaker 1 No, y'all not going to do that.
Speaker 1
Wait for E to get him. Okay, I'm going to be here for Patreon.
That's why I'm saving my.
Speaker 1
I mean, we all, you know, it was a lot of fun. We were horrible, but it was so much fun.
Yeah, it was fun. It was, it was fun.
I can't wait till the video comes out so people can roast us.
Speaker 1
They're going to cook us. Oh, my lord.
What? I'm not watching that. As they should.
I'm not watching that. But I appreciate it.
I'm going to treat myself better. Word.
Speaker 1
I wanted to ride the Peloton in the morning with the fucked up Achilles. I tried to work down.
That's what's bad. It was terrible.
Yeah, I'm going to treat myself better. I text a trainer.
Speaker 1 Go ahead, it's time. Are we going to commit to doing this once a quarter, once a month, once every other month?
Speaker 1 We'll play better if we play more.
Speaker 1 The more you play, you'll start getting everything back. You'll start getting your coordination.
Speaker 2 Why don't we do different activities that like encourage more mobility?
Speaker 1 No, it's a volleyball. Volleyball is a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 1
What the fuck is pickleball? It's like bad mid-harry. It's like bad men and wiffle picks.
Tennis for old people. If we do volleyball, I'm wearing the MCM of pumps and the bump shit.
Speaker 1 Indoor, indoor
Speaker 1 where speedos at the indoor activities.
Speaker 1 I'm just telling y'all how I'm on it if we do a volleyball.
Speaker 1 We're in spanks.
Speaker 1
Oh, man. I'm down for some bowling.
Bowling. Bowling.
That's easy. I'm down.
Speaker 1
Laser tag. I don't know if this is a skydiving bunch.
I did that already. Sorry, jumping at all.
Speaker 1
I'm not so mad at paintball. I've got to paint a paintball guy.
I can do paintball. No, why don't you pick the activities so you would be included? Why don't you pick the activities?
Speaker 2 These are the ones I can definitely do.
Speaker 1 Paintball, volleyball, niggas.
Speaker 1 Which paintball, though? The one in PA? The one with the
Speaker 2 where we're at, like outside.
Speaker 1
Yeah, put us in the forest. Yeah.
So I've got to do that. Yes.
I don't do that indoor shit. You got to be outdoors.
Speaker 1
Got you. My bad.
I just got paintball standards. My bad.
Yes, my bad.
Speaker 1 Yo, once you play
Speaker 1 outdoor paintball, you don't want to do that in the shit. You got the gun? Okay.
Speaker 1
You got the gun? No, I use this shit. My man and them had the gun.
Them shits was three and four hundred dollars. We're all like, like, yo, my nigga nigga spending time.
Speaker 1 Once you play tactical, it's like, all right, I'm never gonna get it. You don't want to play inside anymore.
Speaker 1 And I told y'all that
Speaker 1
somebody at my mom about an escape room. Oh, Doppler.
You know, Rochelle. You already know.
Speaker 1
I haven't done that in a minute. Escape rooms was our shit.
So
Speaker 1
I've always been for 80. Follow up on that.
That might be a good time. Ball's an easy one, though.
We should definitely do that.
Speaker 1 Pool. Pool might be.
Speaker 1 Pool. I wouldn't be mad at a whole little bar
Speaker 1
game. Bargain there.
Darts, darts in there. Pool.
Darts, pool. Get that axe throwing.
Axe throwing. Yeah.
I've never done that. I can shoot pool.
I don't know if I throw no axe. I've never done that.
Speaker 1
I've done the axe. I can't shoot pool.
And I'm trashing pool. I'm trash.
We really sound old.
Speaker 1
The big old. We have officially plugged that whole 10-year anniversary.
We sound old as hell. Even though all the games y'all playing,
Speaker 1 last time many, many, 15 years ago, however long that was,
Speaker 1 when I decided to leave my polka-nose room and go to the lodge, the central meeting area, the game center, I killed all them little white boys that was in there, nigga. You crazy? Darts? Oh, darts.
Speaker 1 Darts, air hockey.
Speaker 1 What else they had in there? Ping pong,
Speaker 1
all these little 12-year-old rich white boys. You nice in ping-pong? No, bro.
But I was better than that.
Speaker 1 Yo, bring the kickball back.
Speaker 1 Yo, after Saturday, I'm not saying I'm nice in nothing no more. Nothing.
Speaker 1 Nothing. I don't think I'm nice in nothing no more.
Speaker 1 You got to reevaluate.
Speaker 1 You can't have your 1996, 2006 mind
Speaker 1 because your body still thinks it's that. Like, my body still thinks it's 96.
Speaker 1 For like bursts of speed, and then it's over. Then you're like, nigga, you can't play no more.
Speaker 1
I could have killed Mark ass. This little fast ass would zoom to a spot.
Because he fascinated by it. And then just be there.
Speaker 1 Nigga, shoot the ball. He zooming around and then
Speaker 1 everybody's confidence was fucked up.
Speaker 1 Nobody was shooting.
Speaker 1 Oh, I was like,
Speaker 1
I was scared to shoot at him. Nobody was shooting.
I bricked the cup. I was like, yeah, I'm going to try and just pass.
I'm going to beat my man and pass. That's what we were all trying to do.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Game 11 used to go a lot faster. That shit took an hour to do it.
Speaker 1
Way faster. Game 11 used to be quick, but not so much when can't nobody score.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
My man was right under the basket with it. Oh, you.
Everybody. I was just
Speaker 1
saying. Sam, layup after layup after layup.
Niggas danny shooting that shit over the backboard.
Speaker 1
It's like, yo, this is terrible. All right, y'all keep going.
I'm going to sign us up at the Senior Citizen Center.
Speaker 1
Y'all keep it up. Yeah, what? I'm going to sign y'all up.
All right. We ready to work.
We ready to go? We ready to go?
Speaker 1 Let's go. Okay, let's fucking go.
Speaker 1 Mike check one, two, one, two. Rest in peace, Angie Stone.
Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Real niggas all over the world.
Speaker 1 Always for the ladies, always for the ladies. Hit go.
Speaker 1 She's not a lover, she's just a friend.
Speaker 1 I'm sick and tired.
Speaker 1 Shout out to the first and last time listeners, all the subgroups out there. It's funny, fun.
Speaker 1 Now you wanna spend your money.
Speaker 1 Girls, you forgot when you were done. 30 and up, 30 and up, right down, 40 and up, right down, 40 and up.
Speaker 1 What in
Speaker 1 Shout out to all the kids out there,
Speaker 1 all the college niggas listen. Don't yell at me.
Speaker 1 All the high schoolers, all the jails all over the world.
Speaker 1 All you're gonna do is scoring.
Speaker 1 Boy, you forgot when you were young.
Speaker 1 I can't eat, I can't sleep anymore.
Speaker 1 Waiting for love to walk through the door.
Speaker 1 I wish I didn't live. Rest in peace, Andrea.
Speaker 1 This is my shit.
Speaker 1 Shout out to the Neo-Soul chicks out there.
Speaker 1 Hey.
Speaker 1 Memories don't live like people who are. Alright, what we start with, what we start with it.
Speaker 1 Y'all figure it out. Y'all got a birds and a bridge to figure it out.
Speaker 1 Every time you see it, come and hold New York City, oh, New York.
Speaker 1 Big jersey, big jersey.
Speaker 1 How on your face?
Speaker 1 I can't be honest.
Speaker 1 on anymore.
Speaker 1 Waiting for love to walk through the door.
Speaker 1 I wish I didn't advance you anymore.
Speaker 1 I can't need to kiss me anymore.
Speaker 1 Waiting for love to walk through the door.
Speaker 1 I wish I didn't miss you anymore.
Speaker 1 This part, this is
Speaker 1 part, this part, this part, what's that?
Speaker 1
Flip and Mel and Mark. Mark, all right.
right. What episode is this? 805.
Welcome to episode 805 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by a few by power by Price Picks Price Gang.
Speaker 1 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here, fully dressed, host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people.
Speaker 1 To my right, you know the vibes, big informalist afford is in the building.
Speaker 1 Queens Flip is in the building. Queens get the money.
Speaker 1 King Wah, Big Ish is in the building in his walking boot.
Speaker 1 I don't know if you're Wills anymore with that. Yeah, you're not Wills.
Speaker 1 You're not Wills.
Speaker 1 I told him at least they ain't giving him that little bullshit,
Speaker 1
the Section 8 blue little sandal walking boot that they be giving you out the little glass container thing of Majigi. You gotta have that first.
You got good coverage. That's the evidence.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you ain't got the soft little bullshit, okay? You got good insurance.
Speaker 1 You got good insurance, right?
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it matters.
Speaker 1 You on your wife's shit?
Speaker 1 Oh, wham.
Speaker 1 I find
Speaker 1
it. Big freeze, freeze, the freeziest.
Ice is in the building. Dr.
Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Elmira's finest parks is here.
Boe is here. Corey is here.
Ericsson is here.
Speaker 1
Keeve and Ian are here. Savon and Tan are here by remote last, but certainly not least.
Each and every one of you guys are here.
Speaker 1 You've heard about our weekend.
Speaker 1 I didn't do shit.
Speaker 1
That was the weekend. No, that wasn't.
That wasn't.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1
the fight was after that. That's true.
I did go out to dinner on Sunday night. I did go out to dinner, and I felt every minute of that.
Speaker 1
I'm talking about getting out the car, getting into the car, sitting to. Oh, yeah, We went to some steakhouse in Montclair.
That shit was like, man, I couldn't pick up the fork. My eyes was hurt.
Speaker 1 Everything was hurting.
Speaker 1 Lord. Did your wife know just how much pain your body was in or did you try to tough it out?
Speaker 1 I got a pretty high pain threshold because I'm always getting injured from shit. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
And so she heard me say that we might try this again. That picture I sent you of us on the ground, she took that picture.
She didn't send that to commemorate it. She was like, stop, nigga, stop.
Speaker 1 She looked at me. What y'all look like?
Speaker 1
Whenever y'all think about doing this shit again, look at this picture. Your wife is right here.
Let's just be wise later. Yeah, exactly.
I ain't going to listen to it. We ain't going to listen.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I didn't do shit. I stayed in bed.
I stayed in bed. I didn't go nowhere.
This might be the first weekend ever where I just didn't move. I slowly baby-free
Speaker 1 girlfriend. I was sober after that.
Speaker 1 It's wild.
Speaker 2 That Epsom Saw Bath will do that to you, too.
Speaker 1 Lay you out.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I shot down Orlando for my niece's birthday party.
Speaker 1 Shout out to baby Kylie.
Speaker 1
You go. Bro, I've learned.
I just love kids, man. I just learned that I got to learn how to swim, yo.
That really hit me. Like, my daughter is, daddy, let's go.
She take off and I'm rolling with her.
Speaker 1 Come on, all right, come on. And you get to that little five feet
Speaker 1 and your toes start to brush up against
Speaker 1
5'6. Nigga, you only be like, right, yeah.
And then I start realizing, like, all right, if she gone, I'm like, yo, dog, come back, bro.
Speaker 1
So that's my plan. I know how to keep saying it.
I'm I'm going to learn how to swim. Yo,
Speaker 1
if you want to take a group class, because I've tried to learn how to swim like four times. I did swim.
Bad times. You can't be that surprised.
A little surprised. That's racist.
Speaker 1
I don't know. How many of y'all can swim? Show my hands.
Who can swim?
Speaker 1
I'm just going to make a draw melanin really. So immigrants can swim.
Oh,
Speaker 1 right.
Speaker 1 I meet a lot of Jamaicans, a lot of West Indians. All the islanders.
Speaker 1 All islanders, I know people who can swim. Black Americans.
Speaker 1 Well, you're not ADOS.
Speaker 1 I'm not ADOS, but we don't swim.
Speaker 2 Yeah, no, they threw me back in like six months.
Speaker 2 I joined a baby school for swimming. Yep.
Speaker 1 I almost
Speaker 1 did that.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, yeah.
I almost drowned twice, so that's how I learned how to swim. Oh, that's the other way.
Okay.
Speaker 1 Somebody had the right idea.
Speaker 1 I don't know.
Speaker 1 If somebody could have just followed through. I almost drowned at Duns River Fall in Jamaica, and then I almost drowned in New Jersey
Speaker 1
at my cousin's pool when I was younger. Duns River, like the waterfall thing? Yeah, I almost drowned in.
I although you in that? Alligated Palm. One of them shits I almost
Speaker 1
almost drowned. They helped me.
Three times almost drowned.
Speaker 1
I almost drowned there. I almost drowned in Montego Bay.
And then I almost drowned in New Brunswick. That's a lot of times.
Yeah, the lady jumped in and helped me. And I was panicking.
Speaker 1 She's like, yo, calm down, because I was pulling her down. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
Then I had to learn. I just learned about this one.
Each time, were they able to get all of the infested water from out of your your
Speaker 1 mouth?
Speaker 1
Yo, Joe, I'll fuck you up today. Yo, yes.
If You're injured today. I'll whoop your ass.
Speaker 1 Did they vacuum some shit? No, it was scary, but you got to. You put a catheter in your ear? I learned how to swim by default.
Speaker 1 And then I'm going to switch it down. I'm down, though.
Speaker 1 Let's do it. I know.
Speaker 1
I know that. He's scared too.
He don't know.
Speaker 1 I told him. I said, Joe, you should go try to learn to swim.
Speaker 1 As an adult, it's dope.
Speaker 1 And I took, you took your daughter know how to swim? Yes. How'd that happen?
Speaker 1 Damned if I know. Because
Speaker 1 kids are like dogs.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1
I took my daughter to learn, but she was a little too small. I took her when she was like six, eight months.
That's where you should start. That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1 My daughter on her back doing all this shit. My daughter's a lifeguard.
Speaker 1 I'm like, all right.
Speaker 1
I took my daughter to swim lessons. Like, for till she from age six months till about 12.
She took swim lessons. She's a lifeguard.
She could do all that. I tried to do the lessons.
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 Do you panic when you get in the water? Do you panic? He's 5'6'2, though.
Speaker 1
I'm 5'10. She could only cut it like right here.
Why? You know what?
Speaker 1
No, you good? Yeah, I'm sure. I step on your foot to do that.
That's my exact
Speaker 1 light. Y'all my niggas.
Speaker 1 That's cool. You can't swim, right? You could? Yeah, I could swim.
Speaker 1 I can't tread and I can't float.
Speaker 2 That's what I thought. Was so how do you swim? How can you swim and not tread?
Speaker 1 I don't get that. When I jump off the diving, I could jump off the 30-foot joint.
Speaker 1 Like in Maplewood, they got the high joint. 30.
Speaker 1 When you get in the water, if it got up, yo,
Speaker 1 don't play that, man.
Speaker 1 Don't play, family.
Speaker 1 Stop.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but
Speaker 1 it's been about 45 minutes of
Speaker 1 work and
Speaker 1 speak about things.
Speaker 1
Can I say something about Angie Stone? Sure, go ahead. Angie Stone.
First of all, rest in peace, Angie Stone. She's one of those people who.
Oh, wait, hold on. You about to be serious.
Speaker 1
At least let the hook go. Oh, sorry.
All right, hold on.
Speaker 1 Come on.
Speaker 1 All right, that's all I need.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1
All right. Back to the legend.
Yeah. Legendary Angie Stone, Neo-Soul legend, all that.
Speaker 1
I didn't know her well, but I knew her well enough. You know, I knew her to speak, interviewed a bunch of times.
Real good people.
Speaker 1 One of the few people that when they die, everybody has good things to say and doesn't have to lie or doesn't have to remain silent.
Speaker 1 But the thing that I want to say about Angie Stone, I think is important, is that a lot of people only think about her as a Neo-Soul goddess. And they forget that she is a hip-hop pioneer.
Speaker 1 As much as, you know, No Rain in This Cloud, and all the songs that came out when she made that album in 99, which is great, she's part of Sequence.
Speaker 1 You know, and Sequence, you know, when hip-hop is really moving, when we move from disco to hip-hop and you start to hear hip-hop as a party sound, she's the voice of that. She's the soundtrack.
Speaker 1
Her and the other two sisters are the voice of that. Sequence is a hip-hop pioneering group.
They were the second act signed in Sugar Hill Records. They were major hip-hop acts.
Speaker 1 And when we do the hip-hop commemorations and the 50th anniversary, sometimes we leave out Angie Stone and we leave out, or Angie B at the time, and we leave out sequence.
Speaker 1
I'm just saying, as we remember her, let's really write her in the history and not just in the RB. That's it.
Got you.
Speaker 1 I agree. That was very well said.
Speaker 1 I'm good at the talking job.
Speaker 1 That's why you command the big bucks.
Speaker 1 I command them. I ain't gonna get them.
Speaker 1 They might sprinkle some silence out there for two seconds.
Speaker 1 You gonna let him do that?
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1 You gonna let Mark smoke your fucking boots on the end average? Your topic, girl.
Speaker 1 Nigga, Mark, Mark.
Speaker 1 He brought the
Speaker 1 train back.
Speaker 1 When I get to the Angie, I'm going to take it to the lost.
Speaker 1 That's how I survived. And you
Speaker 1 and y'all put a stop to that because you did not. You did not want to sad out the podcast.
Speaker 1 You didn't want to saddle the pod. Mel Gad, Mel, get it.
Speaker 2 I don't think Mark was here when we had a discussion about, you know, the fact that when a loss like this happens,
Speaker 2 you could say that this was before her time. This was a tragic accident versus somebody that we're aware has like a long-running, you know, health issue, and then they end up passing away.
Speaker 2 So the conversation I was, you know, trying to see if the guys wanted to talk about is the process of loss when it's something like that. And then especially where she was going.
Speaker 2 She's on her way to do something, to sing the national anthem.
Speaker 2 And then that was just really strange how the people at the game handled it, was like announcing it like, oh, well, yeah, like our halftime.
Speaker 1
I have a problem with that. I have a huge problem with that.
I have a big problem with if an artist is about to perform somewhere, you're announcing to that audience, hey, y'all, the act just died.
Speaker 1 Yes, yes.
Speaker 1
I think that that's absolutely nuts. I don't know that everybody knows that that's nuts.
Maybe they didn't know a better way to handle that, but I think that was totally the wrong way to handle it.
Speaker 1 And if I was a ticket goer,
Speaker 1
I would be distraught. I would be asking to see somebody.
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 1 No, no.
Speaker 1 I heard the announcement.
Speaker 1
She was performing at halftime. The gentleman walked out.
He let the crowd know: hey, can I get a moment? Can everybody stop? And everybody got quiet.
Speaker 1
He was like, you know, we were supposed to have the legend. Angie Stone perform.
A couple people started clapping. And he said, unfortunately,
Speaker 1 she passed away in an accident. In the car, we were here.
Speaker 1 So everybody was was like like what like you could hear a gun you don't get an idea no i don't know i feel like it would suck the air right out of the room and then he asked for a moment of silence everybody gave the moment of silence then they you know they clapped and everything and went on but i personally
Speaker 1 i'm not mad at announcing hey listen something just happened and this is why
Speaker 1 don't nobody have a problem with you announcing something just happened right but not you came out there and said she passed away
Speaker 1 yeah
Speaker 1 We don't have no beef with something just happened. Oh my God, an emergency, unfortunate.
Speaker 1 It's not your place to get out there and tell these fans that the act has perished.
Speaker 1
It's not your place. It's also the age of social media.
I was just getting ready to say that. I had to read it on your phone.
Speaker 1 No, no, what I'm saying is if I'm in the stands and I tweet, oh my God, they just said Angie Stone died.
Speaker 1 Now Angie's son or Angie's aunt or Angie's brother who doesn't know they're dead yet has to read that on your phone. Well, I don't know if this occurred, if that person got the information.
Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if they got it before social media.
Speaker 1 they could have got it from they could have got it from there as a tmz post go out oh that's fair that's possible and then they announce it to the crowd that's fair because the news is already out there you won't know if that's the authorities the local authorities that are gonna come to the cirou a tournament and be like yo i thought what her i thought her team called that's what i assumed but but either way to the other point because i think that's a great point you're right i pulled that one back but the the idea of yo You just sucked the air out of this room.
Speaker 1 Everybody in this room is now devastated to hear it.
Speaker 1
Some people came there just to hear it and stone. I believe that.
Yeah, that's crazy to find out that she's just dead. I don't think you do that.
Speaker 1 i just don't think you do that to people i don't know what the proper protocol is i'm not pretending to know you don't you should not put people in that spot
Speaker 1 when we was on the road when we found out nipsey died
Speaker 1 no what's the dude the the white dude mac miller no paul walker no y'all was on tour
Speaker 1 no no dj um dj a.m yeah dj a.m
Speaker 1
and dj a. And y'all was with uh his man, Travis.
Travis and him.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean, that's a little different because that was, we just happened to be there for a personal call where we found something out. When Nipsey died, we was on our way to a stage.
Yeah. Oh, wow.
Speaker 1
And spring. And had to perform and the news had just broke.
And we were...
Speaker 1 We were in Cali. The entire building wasn't really there.
Speaker 1
Like, the whole place was elsewhere. There was an energy in the room.
that made it a difficult night for everybody. I think we said a prayer at the end or some shit.
Like it was tough.
Speaker 1 So I just don't think you put that feeling in people that came to a show for a show let them find out just say hey we've had an emergency there's someone forced
Speaker 2 as a performer i don't agree with it maybe as a consumer you want to know that as a performer i don't i don't agree with that at all yeah and also like with social media a lot of times reports go out prematurely where the person might not have passed away.
Speaker 2 And we've seen that happen before where before the family has a chance to make their statement, people are just like, oh, so-and-so died.
Speaker 2 And it's just like, no, they're still on life life support, but it's not for us to have a discussion about.
Speaker 2 So I would be really afraid to be the one that announces this to a whole crowd of people before it is, you know, without making sure that the confirmation is really actually the confirmation.
Speaker 2 Like I would err on the side of caution and say,
Speaker 2
we had a performer, there was an emergency. We apologize.
And that's really, and leave it at that.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we just, we don't know the timing of when they got that. The timing matters.
Speaker 1 Because when it was officially out, they could have got it then. And then I'm not mad at that because nine times out of ten, most of y'all are going to know anyway.
Speaker 1
The last piece of this for me is also people who were tweeting just wild shit. Like, people were tweeting the truck itself.
They were
Speaker 1 tweeting
Speaker 1
the van that got flipped over. Because she was the only person that passed, too.
She was the only one that passed. She was the only one that passed.
And they were showing these graphic images. And
Speaker 1
y'all out there, like, people are human beings. Somebody loves them.
And if you're famous or not, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1
Like, nobody wants to go on Twitter and see the person they love dead on their timeline or the van crushed on their timeline. Like have some decency.
Post a still picture of her. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1
You're living in yesteryear. Yeah, I know.
I know. I know.
You're living in yesterday, buddy. And everybody, most,
Speaker 1
a lot today are so desensitized to that shit. Yeah.
Where they could look right at that image and scroll. As horrible as the image was, that was one of the nicer images as it relates to.
Speaker 1 our entertainers passing. That's true.
Speaker 1
That's sad. It was like the aftermath.
I didn't see the actual accident. There's a video going around right now.
That's the actual accident? No, not of that.
Speaker 1
Of someone else that I don't even want to talk about. Oh, my God.
No, no, no, no. And they in the video keeps right past the story.
I've been trying to avoid it.
Speaker 1 I'm not even going on social media, bro.
Speaker 1 That story
Speaker 1 in and of itself. Exactly.
Speaker 1
And I'm not familiar with the young man, rest in peace. He's a five-year-old daughter.
He's a young rapper and his five-year-old daughter. This is in
Speaker 1
Dallas. Texas.
I want to say that this is in Dallas. Like, oh, I can't.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't even.
Speaker 1 We got his name?
Speaker 1 G. Dallasan Lil Ronnie.
Speaker 1
Little Ronnie, yeah. Yeah.
And his five-year-old daughter, Fort Brook, Texas.
Speaker 1 You know, was ambushed at a car wash.
Speaker 1 Rest in peace.
Speaker 1 Shit different out here. Danielle shit reminds me of just how
Speaker 1 vulnerable entertainers and performers are that tour and travel
Speaker 1
and rely on that for their income. Income.
You know what I mean? Like, people really put themselves in a dangerous position all day, every day, to entertain us.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 like traveling, especially in cars, is like the most dangerous shit in the fucking world, and people do it for a living. Yeah.
Speaker 1 18-wheeler boy. God damn.
Speaker 1
Rest in peace. Rest in peace, for sure, for sure.
The roads be scary, though. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Like, the roads are,
Speaker 1 I don't think we at that age now.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, my nigga.
And it ain't how good you drive. Nah, because the other.
Speaker 1
That's the other part. Niggas let niggas be on their phone, swerving in and out of the lanes.
That's all it takes is one. Somebody not paying attention.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
They teach you that. You got to drive.
When you drive, you got to drive for the other person. Defensive driver.
Defensive driver. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's why I be getting mad at my driver. He'll spot the worst driver on the road and just stay right behind him.
Going 20.
Speaker 1 Like, yo, nigga, could you get away from this fucking lunatic, nigga? You don't see him?
Speaker 1
You can tell when somebody on the road just turns, yeah. You can tell.
You can see him right away. Yeah, yeah, they done fucking got the little fucking Puerto Rican Honda engine in there.
Speaker 1 Yeah, shit be as loud as hell. Yeah, you got your little 20 miles per hour.
Speaker 1 Yo, dog, you haven't left the block yet.
Speaker 1 Yeah, niggas that merge wrong into the fucking.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, man. Uh-uh.
Speaker 1 Let me queue up out.
Speaker 1
Let's get us out of there. I'm doing it.
Let's get us on out of there, bro. Please.
It's playing, but I don't hear it. Gotta turn it up.
Oh, shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 Oh, man.
Speaker 1 Rest in peace to anybody after they lost somebody recently.
Speaker 1 Our prayers, thoughts, and condolences to Angie Stone, her family, her friends,
Speaker 1 her loved ones.
Speaker 1 Here you look and sweet dark.
Speaker 1 Wish that I could love you by
Speaker 1 in a special way.
Speaker 1 I never
Speaker 1 you light my mind,
Speaker 1 all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 You
Speaker 1 blow my mind
Speaker 1 I satisfy
Speaker 1 this thing, Oscars, the Oscars, Oscars,
Speaker 1 the Oscars,
Speaker 1 Mel.
Speaker 2 Yes. Did anybody else watch it?
Speaker 1 I watched Hulul.
Speaker 1 Well, I watched it on Hulu, and it died right before Best Picture.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 2 Best Actress.
Speaker 1
Midway through Best Actress. Right before Best Picture.
What'd you mean it died? Like, Hulu went down? The Phoenix was over. It was over.
It's like, oh, your show's ended. It's like, no, it hasn't.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, shit.
Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, it was, that was a thing.
Speaker 1
I watched a nice portion of it. Okay.
All right. What'd you think?
Speaker 2
First thing I'll say is it did not seem like a Jesse Collins production at all. So that was the number one thing that I thought.
Conan O'Brien did fabulous as a host.
Speaker 2
He's hilarious. Yeah, he is good.
He's really, really good.
Speaker 1 I will say that as much as I champion watching the early parts of the Grammys,
Speaker 1 this was like that for the whole ceremony, which is a lot.
Speaker 1 Lots of stuff you don't care about. Yeah, like
Speaker 1 best foreign short animated movie. Like,
Speaker 1 congrats. But, like,
Speaker 1 no, we could have yeah, you could have you could have put
Speaker 1 an earlier ceremony for them too and get some of that stuff out of the way. Yeah, like I think they're the Grammys is maybe too far left of not showing enough, and Oscars is too far right of showing.
Speaker 1 I love all those, maybe
Speaker 1
because I make film, but like I love watching like the documentary. I love watching the best foreign this, but I like every one of them.
I like the best dolly grip, like all that shit.
Speaker 1
I want every award shown, every single one. Yeah, Even the pre-show is long.
Like family.
Speaker 1 They show you on six different stages on the carpet.
Speaker 1 So they were so bad that they had to have on the side three separate screens to show when you walk in, you over there on the carpet, you over there on the carpet, and then you come up on the main screen.
Speaker 1 It's like, yo, my nigga.
Speaker 1 We get it. Like, yo, we get it.
Speaker 1
We got you. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, oh, she was over there. They on this screen.
Speaker 1 It's like, yo, dog, we got it.
Speaker 1 I'm cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Anybody clean up?
Speaker 2
There's a film called Anora that really, it swept. Yeah.
And it was a very, very, very indie film that a lot of people have never watched before, had never even fucking heard of.
Speaker 2 And it won all the major categories, like best picture,
Speaker 2 best director, best director. Oh, shit.
Speaker 2 I think it was a screenplay. Editing that.
Speaker 2
Editing that they won. Yeah.
And no, sorry,
Speaker 2
it wasn't screenplay. It was best actress, which was huge because everybody favored Demi Moore to win for this movie called The Substance.
The Substance.
Speaker 2 Did you see it?
Speaker 1
No, not yet. Okay.
The Substance and The Brutalists. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm going to are on my list.
Yeah, Adrian Brodies.
Speaker 2 Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2
Good fucking luck. I will never watch The Brutalist.
It's three and a half hours fucking long. It's like watching radio.
Speaker 1 We're healthier in that area.
Speaker 2 Good for you. Okay.
Speaker 1 You tell me how it is.
Speaker 2
I have a feeling you're going to fall asleep at least five times during this movie. Mark my words.
Not if it's good.
Speaker 1 I was about to say, I didn't sat and watched the Avengers fucking Infinity War. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Okay. I watched Lord of the Rings.
I watched it. That is exactly all of the shit.
Speaker 2 That's captivating shit. Listen, y'all just watch it and then come back and listen.
Speaker 1
It's about the architect, dude. Why is that not captivating? Okay.
Listen. Tell us.
Well, we'll check it out.
Speaker 1 Y'all just check it out. I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 1
I like shit like that. I don't even know what it's about.
That's the hard part for me.
Speaker 1 It's about an immigrant architect who built a whole bunch of shit and then the wealthy fucking people started treating them like shit and took all the shit and stole the shit. That's that's it.
Speaker 1
That's your balance. Oh.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You watch the bill.
Speaker 1 I expected it to be slow,
Speaker 1 drawn out. People root for the wrong
Speaker 1 story. Are you shitting me? Somebody built it up and then they came and stole it bro.
Speaker 1 That's one of the movies where I'm waiting for my girl to leave so I can get into things that I like.
Speaker 1 But listen, I don't know.
Speaker 1 Oppenheimer was long. No, I know.
Speaker 2 There's definitely movies that I can watch.
Speaker 2 That are really lengthy pictures. And I really liked Oppenheimer.
Speaker 2 Another really, really long movie that I completely love is There Will Be Blood, which was another one that kind of swept the amazing movie, James.
Speaker 1 You'll stick around when shit is long, though. No, There Will Be Blood was three and a half hours.
Speaker 1 Outstanding!
Speaker 2 I'm going to make y'all motherfuckers eat your words, okay?
Speaker 1 She got Tiana.
Speaker 1 She got Tiana back.
Speaker 1 Back to the fucking Oscars.
Speaker 2
Okay. Y'all should watch the the substance.
It's a very, very wild movie.
Speaker 1 It looks great, too.
Speaker 2 It's really, really good.
Speaker 1
I gotta watch it, man. Let's see the Enora shit.
That's interesting. It's about a sex worker shit.
Speaker 2 It is. It's basically about this young girl.
Speaker 2 She's a sex worker in Brighton Beach, and she ends up meeting the son of an oligarch.
Speaker 1 Enorpo?
Speaker 2 And they end up getting married, and then the family comes down to meet her to try to get this annulled because they will be damned if their son marries a prostitute.
Speaker 1 Has father hit it before?
Speaker 2
No, he didn't. He was in Russia.
But,
Speaker 2
you know, there's a hitman involved. There's all kinds of shit going on.
Oh, yeah. I just read that.
Speaker 1 Yeah, this shit sounds all right.
Speaker 2 And no art. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 Good looks. Yeah, but the substance for me was really, really, I really love that movie because you would never think Demi Moore would actually do a movie like this.
Speaker 2 And basically what it is, it's like this, this aging starlet. She decides that, you know, she she gets introduced to this concept of kind of splitting yourself in half.
Speaker 2 And you're like, there's a younger version of you, but you guys have to share time.
Speaker 1 I thought it was about Olympic.
Speaker 2 It was not about Olympic.
Speaker 1 It was about us hooping.
Speaker 1 Pretty much. Pretty much.
Speaker 2 But anyway, so the
Speaker 2
young Anjanu, who was the lead in Enora, she actually took the award for best actress. And a lot of people thought Demi had it locked.
So that was kind of surprising.
Speaker 2 Also, what was kind of disappointing was the tribute to Quincy Jones. Like, it was weird.
Speaker 2 That's why I say this was not a Jesse Collins production because the tribute to Quincy Jones would have been so much better.
Speaker 2
And he, you know, they had Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg come out and talk about it. Queen Latifah.
And then Queen Latifah sang, you know, the song from The Wiz
Speaker 2 down the Road. And I was like, out of all Quincy Jones productions, that's the song you choose?
Speaker 1 Because it's tied in with the girl you choose. I mean, the tie-in will wick it.
Speaker 2 Sure, I get it.
Speaker 1 And it's still an Oscars girl. Still.
Speaker 1 That part.
Speaker 1 What they was going to have to do.
Speaker 2
Listen, you could tell when Jesse Collins produced the Oscars, it looked and felt like it. You know what I'm saying? And I say, and that is a huge compliment.
This was very,
Speaker 2 I don't want to say watered down, but it just was very.
Speaker 1 It's a different W-word.
Speaker 1 White.
Speaker 1
It was washed. It was white.
It was white.
Speaker 1 When can we get to the kiss?
Speaker 1
Okay, so. Let's get to the fucking kiss.
Okay, so
Speaker 2 Adrian Brody ends up winning for best actor for the brutalists.
Speaker 2 Fast forward 20-something years.
Speaker 2
Sorry, rewind. Sorry.
Rewind 20 years ago.
Speaker 2 When he won Best Actor for the pianist, and Hallie Berry was on the stage, and she was the one who was presenting him with the award.
Speaker 2
He got up on the stage and literally swooped her up in this huge, unplanned kiss that she was not prepared for. And she played it off really well.
So fast forward 20-something years, he's won.
Speaker 2 And she decides to recreate the moment.
Speaker 1 And turns to his wife.
Speaker 1 He walked up to his wife and was like, yo, you know, I got to do this.
Speaker 1 Pardon me real quick. I'm going to just pay him back.
Speaker 2 And check this out. He did that in front of her husband.
Speaker 2 So there's that.
Speaker 1 Oh, well, it's good. She seems to be a little bit different.
Speaker 1 It's a little different, but it's different.
Speaker 1
Here's a difference. Here's a difference.
Please tell me how it's different.
Speaker 1
Her husband was like where you are. I was about to say her husband wasn't right there.
Right. I'm sorry.
No, he was right there. But she turned to him and said, you know, I got to do this, right?
Speaker 1 And didn't really wait for it. Yes.
Speaker 2 Okay, well, so he didn't ask for permission, and she did. So there is, that's, that is a difference.
Speaker 1
I'm not saying one is better or worse. I'm just saying they're different.
And because I think it's a little, like, I couldn't walk up this, like, on stage, you could get caught up in the moment.
Speaker 1 But grabbing somebody
Speaker 1
on a carpet. On the carpet.
Pre-planned. Pre-planned in front of a spouse to me is
Speaker 1
a tougher sell. I wouldn't do either.
I think you should kiss people with consent. She would have got slit.
Speaker 1
That's all I was thinking. Was like, I don't know what y'all talking about.
My girl was watching. She was like,
Speaker 1 That would have been her ass. We'd have fucked that whole carpet up.
Speaker 1 What would you have done?
Speaker 1 It was a little stronger, I think.
Speaker 2 Georgina Chapman Hammond.
Speaker 1
She came up and took the gum from him. That is not what he just asked you.
He didn't ask you nothing about Georgina Hatch.
Speaker 2 That was his woman.
Speaker 1
He didn't ask. That's not what he asked.
Are you asking him?
Speaker 1 I'm saying that if you're on the carpet with your dude who happens to be an actor, hypothetically, old girl walks over, grips him up, and gives him a kiss.
Speaker 1
Turns to you and says, you know, I'm going to do this right. Gives him a kiss.
How do you react?
Speaker 2 She would have got slid.
Speaker 1
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. There we go.
Thank you, Mother. Thank you for it.
Yeah, she would have got slid. Yeah, but I didn't see the interaction.
Speaker 1 She went up to stage to take his gum in her bare hand. Like,
Speaker 1
she's with it. She's with the shits.
Adrian is
Speaker 2
let's actually say it in a different way. He threw his gum at her.
That's true. He could have fucking swallowed it.
He really could have. He could have done mad different things.
Speaker 2 He could have done a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 And then he got up there and he gave like a six-minute fucking, you know, acceptance speech, told them to shut the fuck up when they started to play the music.
Speaker 2 And then, oh, I mean, I really like Adrian Brody as an actor, but that was.
Speaker 1
He's a man. You crazy.
I think all this shit
Speaker 1 sounds like he's a man. That's fly shit.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's a man. Yo, shorty.
Speaker 1 Hold on.
Speaker 1 Don't.
Speaker 1 And I want it back.
Speaker 1 Don't throw it away.
Speaker 1
Does Holly have a book coming out or something? No. Lou.
I was wondering the same thing. Oh, Lou.
Why won't Holly? Why won't. I just gotta
Speaker 1 say it, bro.
Speaker 1
I don't want to. Them mirrors looked amazing.
She looked phenomenal.
Speaker 2 She looked phenomenal.
Speaker 1 She's beautiful.
Speaker 1 I mean, that's been my whole life.
Speaker 1 That ain't nothing.
Speaker 1 That's nothing new.
Speaker 1 Like, she should sit down now.
Speaker 2 She's on a press run.
Speaker 1 For the lube down. For the lube.
Speaker 1 Do the lube's good assault.
Speaker 2 She has,
Speaker 1 she should.
Speaker 2
She has a company called Respin. Okay.
And it's about, it's basically about health and wellness, but now she's added a component to it for women's sexual health and wellness.
Speaker 1
We're skipping the shit. When these chicks turn 50, 51, 52, something clicks.
Something click.
Speaker 1 And they don't know that we could see it.
Speaker 1 What do you mean? What's the click? I follow them.
Speaker 1
I follow them. Go ahead.
Use your words.
Speaker 1 I'm letting him do it.
Speaker 1 Pussy.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that pussy get to purring differently. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Perrrrrr because you
Speaker 1 that shit like a wolf.
Speaker 1
It's like a wounded cat. And because you're aged and experienced and you've lived, so you know people and you just have a different view than you did in your 30s and 40s.
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 It's not, what's the word I'm looking for? I'll sum it up. There's a word that I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 You give less fucks.
Speaker 1
That ain't what you say. You ran out of fucks to give.
That ain't what he says.
Speaker 1 Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 You give less fucks. There's a way to.
Speaker 1 You give more fucks, man. There's a way to act.
Speaker 1 There's a way.
Speaker 1 I got
Speaker 1 more fucks. That's a proof
Speaker 1
Y'all are fucked up. I think a person should act a certain way at a certain age.
No, it's true. Yo, and it's a Hollywood click of them.
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 And I'm no longer talking about Holly. I don't know her personally to be able to speak about her,
Speaker 1 but she has that baby powder on her.
Speaker 1
I agree. Like, there's a few people that went to Sephora and picked that up.
The
Speaker 1 I'ma do some fucking, and a lot of it eyeliner.
Speaker 1 I don't care who it is.
Speaker 1
I don't care if that guy is married. I don't care if that guy is in a long-term relationship.
I don't give a shit if they're shit. I'm beautiful.
And because I'm beautiful,
Speaker 1 they at my beck and call, and I'm on it.
Speaker 1 This whole sounds like salute to Adrian Brody.
Speaker 1 You know, listen.
Speaker 1 He's the fly. He's the man.
Speaker 2 Okay, but I'm interested to know who's in this clique that you described.
Speaker 1 I would never, man. I was about to say,
Speaker 1 if you take that rat poison, that ain't no.
Speaker 1
I would never. I wouldn't even let you.
Yeah, come on. What's wrong with it? I can name it.
Speaker 1 Just tell me off camera.
Speaker 2 It's fine.
Speaker 1 Think more of us.
Speaker 1 Do you guys
Speaker 1
take anything from any of the performances? Doja Cat Killed. Doja, yeah.
She's loved that shit. She got it on.
That chick Ray is phenomenal. But I went and listened to her albums.
Speaker 1 They are using her way wrong.
Speaker 1
Her voice is incredible. And then her albums are like some dance pop shit.
She's your fault.
Speaker 2 It's almost like, you know what it's like? A star is born with Lady Gaga. Like how she comes out singing with these kind kind of shallow and shit like that.
Speaker 2 And then when they get their hand, the industry gets their hands on her, they turn into her into an RB artist with all the fucking weird wigs and shit.
Speaker 1 No, it's pink. Early stages.
Speaker 2 No, no, what it is, it's pink. Pink started as RB.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and then that shit
Speaker 2
was whack as fuck. And then she comes out being who she really actually is.
And that's why she's been a huge success, because she's authentic now.
Speaker 1 Did we find out why Ariana Grande is Benjamin Button? Like why she's like infant sizing?
Speaker 1 I don't know. Like why does she look six now? I didn't want to say nothing because they said she might have
Speaker 1
said she might have some health issues. Her and uh Cynthia body that they did intro.
They did. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1
I like their camaraderie too. Yeah.
It's fun to watch. You could tell like it was genuine.
Yeah. Like Ariana Ground kissed her hand and was holding it.
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 It wasn't some studio shit, but I guess you've been working on a major motion picture with somebody.
Speaker 1 You might find that
Speaker 1 up.
Speaker 1 It didn't show on that.
Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. I'm saying you're absolutely right in
Speaker 2 what you're saying. They really do seem seem to like each other.
Speaker 2 You can be on a picture with somebody and fucking hate them.
Speaker 1 And I like the way that
Speaker 1 Ariana kinda
Speaker 2 pays reverence to you. Do your thing.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like, I'm her.
Do your thing. Yeah.
And really gave her the show.
Speaker 2 Sharivo is fucking her.
Speaker 1 No, she is, but
Speaker 1
I'm white, but like his teacher. The emphasis was wrong.
I was like.
Speaker 1 It's super her.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Fuck my head.
I wouldn't put the emphasis on Switzerland. Fuck her.
Speaker 1
You put the emphasis on the wrong salabo. Wrong syllable.
That's not right, right. Sorry.
You're Switzerland came. You said syllable.
I hate your fucking. Emphasis.
Speaker 1 You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Sure.
Speaker 1 Syllable, but you put the emphasis on the wrong thing. Got it.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Got it.
Takes a sting out when you got to explain a joke.
Speaker 1
You missed it to just. I missed it.
Hey, you can learn it later. Catch it later.
Zoe Saudana one? They on her ass.
Speaker 1
Badly. They on her ass is all I know.
Why, though? Yeah. Yeah.
They said that she. Because she ain't black.
She's
Speaker 1
And she's not Mexican. Those are our songs.
And she's not Mexican. One was the race thing.
And then, two, some people were clowning because her husband was up there. You know, he took her last name.
Speaker 1 So some people was finding making jokes about that on.
Speaker 1 Wait, see, I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1
Now that team missed me. Yeah.
I only know that. Her husband took
Speaker 1
her last name. Yeah.
And she got a lot of balls. Marco.
I only noticed because my wife sent it to me. There's balls on this lady.
Speaker 1 My wife sent it to you. Yeah, and I was like, I wrote back, I don't know why you sending me this.
Speaker 1
his name was Marco Perego. Now he's Marco Saldano.
Marco Perego. Okay, so she had to take it.
Oh, so they both kind of prairie names. Yeah.
Speaker 1 He had to take it. He didn't sound no tougher.
Speaker 1 He had to take the last name. You know what I'm saying? When you try to come up here, he had to take the last name.
Speaker 1
He had to take the last name. He take that.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 The green card goes faster.
Speaker 1 I don't know if green cards go faster with Saldana.
Speaker 1 A lot of money plus snappers? Exactly.
Speaker 1
Might take it. You might take it names.
You might take it.
Speaker 1
He didn't take her last name. I ain't taking it.
So why are they mad at this lady? They said she's not black. It's number one.
They said that she played black roles and she's been downplaying.
Speaker 1 To them, she's been downplaying the roles that she played. And they feel like she, you know, because she said she was not apologizing about to the Mexicans and certain things.
Speaker 1 They're just like, we don't like that.
Speaker 2 What's the apology?
Speaker 1 That sounds aquatic.
Speaker 2
I'm curious. Because a lot of times you'll have somebody.
I mean, fucking Angelina Jolate played Cleopatra.
Speaker 1 Nigga,
Speaker 1 it's been 17 black Moses'. Thank you.
Speaker 1 I mean, white Moses wasn't.
Speaker 1 We thought Moses was white until the certainty.
Speaker 1 I thought Moses was white until the certainty. But Dana and Samita.
Speaker 1 It's not based on religion.
Speaker 1 Wait till you hear about Jesus, man. I'll fuck your head.
Speaker 1
That's brass. Because I go back, I don't have headphones on.
I go back and listen to a lot of shit you say. I'm listening clearly.
No. It's based off of the religion that you, you know, woolen hair.
Speaker 1
I understood. Dude, I didn't understand.
Like brass. I got that.
That's not whitey. I got that as an adult when I got older or as a teenager.
Okay. No, you mixed the shit out of him.
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1
Like, Jennifer Lopez played Selena. They was kind of tight, too.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
I just think that's a good idea. Well,
Speaker 1 she did a great job. And she paid homage.
Speaker 1 She pay homage to Selena. Phil Dean.
Speaker 2 But if you're going to be mad about something, then stay mad about the same fucking thing. Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2 She played Mexican. So what's the issue with that?
Speaker 1 She paid homage to them. She paid homage to Selena.
Speaker 1
Who's saying that the other lady didn't pay homage? She's saying I'm not going to be apologetic for winning a role and doing a role. I did my job.
Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1
The beef to me ain't shitting me with Zoe. And obviously she's a proud Dominican.
People say she doubled down on the Dominican part on the speech, too. Like, I'm the first Dominican to win this award.
Speaker 1 And hopefully, there'll be others.
Speaker 1 And it's like, you're also black. right? There's others.
Speaker 2 But was that the time to make the distinction and go through the whole history of Afro-Latina and the black experience?
Speaker 1 Because look, what we have to do is
Speaker 1
you have three minutes. Mel, listen.
You have three minutes.
Speaker 2 It's not that. You have three minutes.
Speaker 1 One syllable is black.
Speaker 2 Hold on one second here.
Speaker 2 You have three minutes to thank everybody in your fucking life.
Speaker 2 People who have contributed to you getting this role, people who have contributed to your fucking career for the last 30-something years.
Speaker 2 And then you have to say something profound and shit like that that relates to your family and your culture.
Speaker 1
You have three minutes to like. Three minutes is a long time.
Do you know what? It's not intrinsic. That was like 30 seconds, what you just said.
Afro-Latina takes
Speaker 1 three seconds. Do you know the ongoing issues between Dominican and black people? Yes, I am.
Speaker 1 And even Afro-Latinas and black people, how they say, I'm Dominican, and they sort of exclude the black people. But it just means going on.
Speaker 2 I've had a girlfriend of mine describe herself as a white Dominican. I said, what the fuck is that? Exactly.
Speaker 2 That was the first time I'd ever heard.
Speaker 1 And a lot of us are aware of it.
Speaker 1 A lot of us are aware of it.
Speaker 2 So when I tell you who the fuck it was, you would be friends with the white Dominican people.
Speaker 1
You will be friends with me. I would never speak to him again.
Yeah, I would never speak to them. I witnessed.
A white Dominican around me? Is she legitimately white?
Speaker 1 No. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 You might think that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 Her complexion is extremely light.
Speaker 1 Lighter.
Speaker 2 But she has very dark features. She had dark hair, dark eyebrows, dark eyes.
Speaker 1 She listened to Pac?
Speaker 1
Yes. Did she live in Dykeman? No.
Just try to get... She's a name.
Fordham? Oh.
Speaker 2
She's a name. Like, so, like, maybe I should not use the word, the term friend.
I'll use colleague because
Speaker 2 we work together.
Speaker 1 Because every time you say the friend word.
Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like my man's, right? Okay, no. So, anyways.
Speaker 1
She's letting the chopper spray this down. Call that, call back, call back, call back, call back.
Big man, call back.
Speaker 1
She's in a walking boot, nigga. She ain't no jag around.
I'll shut up, nigga. She's a two legs, nigga.
Speaker 2 So, trust me, I understand the struggle, but it's just like, how do you really kind of like describe what that is?
Speaker 1 And look at who she's talking to. Yeah, we grew up in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1
A lot of times we grew up in the same neighborhood. You grew up in the same neighborhood.
That makes it worse.
Speaker 1 When you grew up in the same neighborhood, experience the the same struggles, you know, you see this person every day, you see these people every day, and they say, yo, they don't identify with you.
Speaker 1
I'm not black. I think it's confusing.
Hold on. If you don't mind me interjecting,
Speaker 1 when you do nationality versus ethnicity,
Speaker 1 because you might go up there and say, yo, I'm from Queens.
Speaker 1 Would it be wrong for people to say, but what about
Speaker 1
Haiti or Jamaica? And they don't have a right to say that. And here's the thing.
Because my history. How many dare him not say he from Haiti when he gets up here? Because I got...
Speaker 1
People take that personally. I got a tech a lot, but I represented my Haitian side a lot.
Like, that's how people take it. Yo, you always represent Jamaica.
You're going to Jamaica. What about Haiti?
Speaker 1
Your mother's Haitian. So people feel it's very sensitive.
It was different when you were young, too. Man, let the lady get up there and fucking say that.
Speaker 1 What do you mean it was different? When you were young? Am I Haitians? Just say black. All I want to do is say black black.
Speaker 2 Here's a good example.
Speaker 1 Here's a good example.
Speaker 1 She's going to be in a Telemundo 9 a.m. News.
Speaker 1 Hola! Hello! Telemundo! You want to rep that Dominican? Because we did nothing look good. We
Speaker 1 So black people shouldn't have a speaker.
Speaker 2
No, it has nothing to do with that. What it has to do with...
Can you imagine if she just said black? Can you imagine how the Dominican community is like a broken state?
Speaker 1
No, we didn't say just say that. Just say Afro-Latina.
We didn't say just say that either. That would be wrong.
Just say Afro-Latina.
Speaker 1 And I'm not getting all heavy on her per se, but I understand why people feel away, especially when these same people sometimes get black roles and they they trade on blackness when it's convenient oh like nina simone no like zoe zaldono no she plays nina she played nina simone she played um the what aston kutcher when bernie when bernie mac was her dad she was a black girl yeah but she also played nina simone that's what she said i'm just saying but wait is this the girl that's in lioness yes yes come on you know goddamn lioness ain't dominican hold on hold on hold on hold on i know goddamn well who
Speaker 1
ain't dominican what are her parents her mother's puerto rican and dominican her father is Dominican. So she's 75% Dominican.
The lioness ain't Dominican, though.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1
she's Dominican and Puerto Rican, right? Yes. So why do y'all want her to run up there and yell she's black again? Because you're just curious.
Because those are ethnicities. Dominicans are black.
Speaker 1
And those are not racist. But she's pointing.
I get it. I'm not.
I don't see nothing wrong with this. I don't think she's wrong.
I think the people criticizing her are wrong. I don't.
Speaker 1 Same.
Speaker 1 I think that's based off experience that you that's based off experience, man. Like, it's deeper than that.
Speaker 1 I'm not extremely deeper than that just to say your role for representing your what ethnicity yeah no it's deeper than big head mom it's just all i'm saying is i don't people can make choices about how they identify and i'm not begging nobody to be black if they don't want to identify as black i agree however if you're getting jobs for example no white woman would get a job playing nina simone
Speaker 1 But they would say Hollywood does.
Speaker 1
No white woman in 2025. I've been down the journey.
I heard a rumor.
Speaker 2 Check this shit out.
Speaker 1 Let me let me know.
Speaker 1 My point is they let her get certain jobs. They let certain Latinos get certain jobs because at that moment they identify as black.
Speaker 1 Right? And then if you identify as black to get that job, and then later on down the road, Sally, you throw the black away, I see why people feel frustrated. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 If you don't be black, don't be black, but then don't be Nina Simone.
Speaker 2 She got a lot of shit for being Nina Simone, though. She got a lot of shit.
Speaker 1 She got a lot of shit. Yeah, and I think that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 Yeah, she actually apologized for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1
And I don't think she should have to. I don't either.
And since then,
Speaker 1 if them niggas gave me and you you 10 million dollars to play menudo i'm gonna get up that bitch and and i'm about the fuck out of here what in theory that sounds good but no you wouldn't no you wouldn't who
Speaker 1 i believe him he absolutely
Speaker 1 she's an actress my nigga she's an actress so a lot of times actresses push themselves to do different roles and to embody certain shit so why not so you don't have a white man playing being malcolm x in the film no i don't want to see see that.
Speaker 1
But again, he's an actor. What I'm saying is we've embraced that mad times.
What's Batman? The latest Batman. A punk.
Dark Knight.
Speaker 1
A fucking picture. A Roche Walton.
We're not doing that. Yeah, sissy.
Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 1 Robert Pattinson? Bell?
Speaker 1 Christian Bell.
Speaker 1 He played Moses.
Speaker 1
Like, dog, we've had 15 white Moses's, and don't nobody, fucking Angelina Jolie might be the whitest chick in America. She played Cleopatra.
That ain't the same.
Speaker 1
Why is it not? Because a lot of Americans still think Moses is white and Cleopatra is white. That's different than playing somebody as a black person.
And she got dimples.
Speaker 1
And a lot of Americans think Dominican is Dominican and they do not associate them with black. And that's why I gave the Malcolm X example.
When you know somebody's black, we would say no.
Speaker 1 So as we start to identify people by their races, I'm just saying, do we draw lines? But I had a whole other question about something different. Did Coning go too far with the Kendrick joke?
Speaker 1
The Kendrick Jake? That was hope. Because I thought it was hilarious, but some people felt away.
A lot of people. They felt away.
Speaker 1 How'd you feel? feel? Actually, let me ask you, because I know as a...
Speaker 1
I think that... As a what? As a what? As a Drake.
As a person whose opinion, I'd like to know about.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1 I think that that's where we are.
Speaker 1
And I think that that's a part of what old boy is talking about. Like, yo, this shit is in the mainstream America.
It's the Oscars, and they ridiculing the stupid motherfucker being a pedophile.
Speaker 1
And for those that don't know, the joke was that Kendrick said, I mean, that Conan said we're halfway through the. We're halfway through the Oscars.
It's about that time when we refer to...
Speaker 1
For Kendrick Lamarck to come out and call Drake a pedophile. Right.
Which I thought was a fucking hilarious joke. Just as a joke, I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1
I laid it up. Yeah, that he said, I'm lawyered up.
Yeah, I'm lawyered up. Right.
I laughed for a long time when he said it. Me too.
But I also think that Conan O'Brien is borderline, like...
Speaker 1
Acceptable? No, he's like one of them. He's really good.
He's amazing. He's really, really like.
He's really good. I said, acceptable.
He's really good. Yeah.
Oh, all right. Exceptional.
Speaker 1
Like, I view him like that. And part of that for me was even that joke, right? Like, before he says, I'm I'm lawyered up, you don't really know how to take that.
Right.
Speaker 1 Like it's open to a million different interpretations, which is why I thought it was great. And we're saying Conan O'Brien, but the black dude that wrote the joke has been on Twitter ever since.
Speaker 1 Right.
Speaker 1 Defending himself because people have been on his ass. Yep.
Speaker 1
Hey, why did you write that joke about Drake? But he said, hey, I wrote jokes the other way. when it comes to Predators.
I got the tweet. I can find it.
But who can? No matter what.
Speaker 1
And honestly, that joke to me is as much about a criticism of Kendrick as it is this a Drake. It's like Kendrick is, it's a criticism that Kendrick keeps doing this.
Like, damn, nigga, another one.
Speaker 1 So I didn't see it, I saw it as a balanced, funny, brilliant joke.
Speaker 1
I just thought it was a funny joke, which I didn't know. From Drake's point of view, I'm a little sick of hearing my name attached to the pedophile pedophile.
Yeah. Which I get.
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 But this is what happens when something that happens in hip-hop grows to be that big.
Speaker 1
All the brands, everybody. Take it a little further.
Take it a little further.
Speaker 1
They took it. They took it here.
They took it further.
Speaker 1
And that's what. He didn't want to do that.
And that's what.
Speaker 1
Freeze. Hey, tell what he said, Freeze.
I just said it.
Speaker 1 What did he say? You missed it, I said.
Speaker 1 I just said it.
Speaker 1 Why is that for funny?
Speaker 1 They don't never doubt any funny.
Speaker 1
He took it further, Freeze. He took it further.
He took it all the way. That's all the house wanted to do.
I took it all the way.
Speaker 1 He didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1 He was wanting to do it.
Speaker 1
Nah, nah, nah. He's following through.
I told him.
Speaker 1 I know.
Speaker 1 Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 So, but that's homeboy's point.
Speaker 1
That's his point. Like, yo, my name is being associated with a pedophile in front of the fucking Oscars, dog.
Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1
all the biggest fucking advertisers in the world. But had it went the other way, he would have been calling Kendrick a life beater.
So, I mean, here we go.
Speaker 1 Oh, man. Is it Stacy?
Speaker 1 Hey, Nokia is fighting for his life out there against this pedophile shit.
Speaker 1 Hey, crazy. Yeah, L to have a little slap in the talk.
Speaker 1 That shit doing my eyes.
Speaker 1
That shit moving out there, nigga. Take it back.
I like that shit. That shit moving out there.
Take it back. Clean it up.
I still like that recording. Take that shit.
Speaker 1
I'm not going to do that with Pansies, but it's working for him. Nah, it's moving, nigga.
It's working for him. I ain't no hater.
Nigga,
Speaker 1
what you said before? I ain't no hater. Clean it up.
What did I say before? I don't think you liked it. I don't like it now.
But it's moving. And it's growing.
Look what you just did. Here's it, Key.
Speaker 1 Shout
Speaker 1 Nah, I don't fuck with that song. My joints off that album are Deeper,
Speaker 1 Give Me a Hug, the Houston shit, Crying in Houston, Rain in Houston, whatever, and something for whatever. But you can identify those four songs,
Speaker 1
special records. You can identify when something is doing well.
Like, yo, it's doing, I can see why it's doing well. I see why it's moving, but UMG ain't paying for it.
Speaker 1 So, I mean, that's coming out of somebody else's pocket. It ain't going to be around long.
Speaker 1 You got to pay for songs to stick around no matter how many of y'all like it you have to pay for songs to be around
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 but
Speaker 1 I like the song. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1
in the car. She danced to it.
No, I didn't see what Lotto did in the car nigga
Speaker 1 And I did I did see it, but don't say that to me on the air nigga
Speaker 1 Not like that I'm just saying like she
Speaker 1 representing man on. Listen, they doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1
And I'm not mad. I'm not mad.
Hey, everybody that's rocking with some shit, rock with it. I ain't the guy that's trying to convince you that a song you like ain't it.
Speaker 1
It's subjective. Like what you like, I like what I like.
That's not what I'm going to on the project, but hey, what he needed right now.
Speaker 1 Salute. That's not what you try to do? What? I don't know.
Speaker 1 No, my taste is too weird for me to try to get other people liking what I like and don't like what I like. No, that's not the beauty of music.
Speaker 1
Why? Why is that? You trying to shoot shot? Nah. Go ahead.
Me? I fucking. I saw I fucked my leg up shit.
Yeah, I'm about to say, bad time. Bad time, nigga.
I'll do what Amani did to me.
Speaker 1 I'll come just fucking stomp on that little walking boot you got.
Speaker 1
I don't want no smoke, bro. You know why you corny? You tried to swag out the walking boot with the Sergio.
You are a corny old school nigga. Why just? Because look, look, stop.
Speaker 1
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Look.
That's what I did. Look, you needed something that was going to fit on top of the walking boot the right way.
Look what you did. What's the right way, nigga?
Speaker 1
You know the right way. Stop.
You look good, man. You look like.
Speaker 1
This guy's nuts. You got it.
You look like in 89. Yeah, the grip with the gray.
You look like in 89, my nigga. Stupid, son.
Something's wrong with your brain.
Speaker 1 When you made your first million at 29, how fast did you lose it?
Speaker 1
Very fast. Come on, get off, man.
You have to watch
Speaker 1
shit. Yo, man.
Very fast.
Speaker 1 What's very fast?
Speaker 1 How How many years?
Speaker 1 Three, four.
Speaker 1 Well, that ain't very fast.
Speaker 1 It was fast.
Speaker 1 Because the markets fell.
Speaker 1
So you didn't spend it. It's just the way you.
God spent it. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 Char House every day.
Speaker 1
Gotcha. St.
Barks. And that's.
Speaker 1 And that's back when the Char House was impressing bitches.
Speaker 1 And that's back when the Char House.
Speaker 1
Yeah. What? Your number might be in the four.
I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 1
Your number might might be, I'm at my bad. Fives.
No, not fives. Not five.
Come on. Fives, dog.
Speaker 1 Will did it.
Speaker 1
Will was the man. So we used the man.
Oh, my brain was. You almost used the man.
Speaker 1
Not the five. Never.
Five digits. Don't listen to him, dog.
Wait, five digits or five hundreds? Five digits. Oh, oh.
Are you crazy? Five hundred? That's why I was like, I was going to say that to you.
Speaker 1
Are you crazy? He's somewhere in the thousands. I don't know where, but I think it might be closer to the five than it is the three digits.
That's my own belief.
Speaker 1
I'm not forcing nobody else to think nothing. That's my own shit.
Joe, do you know what 5,000 is? Yes, Antoine. 10,000.
Yes. That's a lie.
That's a lie.
Speaker 1 I'm 49 years old. The fucking a long time, Kane.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yo, what's wrong? You've been doing that every day, nigga.
Like, chill.
Speaker 1
Seven times a week. You can put your dick in the walk.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
You got to put apple cider on that shit, nigga. Apple cider vinegar.
You know what's funny about this? All right, I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 3,000.
Speaker 1 You just do that number?
Speaker 1 I was about to say, did you bought the calculator? Yeah. At 3,000, you got to pop six women a day for your whole life.
Speaker 1 Is that true?
Speaker 1
I just did the math. That doesn't sound true to me.
I just did the math. Wait, ish.
It's 365 a day, 1,800 would be. If you did six a day for one year, it'd be 1,800.
Speaker 1 49 years times 365 days is 17,885 days. Divided by 3,000
Speaker 1
is 5.96 women a day. No, I think you're doing it all.
Yeah, something's wrong. Something's wrong with your man.
That's not right. One every five days.
Something's wrong with your man.
Speaker 1
It's the opposite. You should have divided where you multiply.
No, that's not. I'm not.
Let's check. Damn, that nigga's doing something.
But this thing is crazy. This is so sick of that.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you're doing something. Because again, if you did six a day, in one year, you would have done 1,800 already.
Speaker 1
365 days. You're right.
You're right. Damn, it's shit.
Let's go, bomb. That's how much he's been fucking.
Look.
Speaker 1 Look. You're right.
Speaker 1
Yeah, my shit. All right, so 5,000.
thousand now he's like wait i did five thousand with you
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All right, before we go any further, I want to shout out to my Ramadan niggas out there. Shout out.
I want to shout out to y'all for being strong, being disciplined, getting in that bag.
Speaker 1 My barbara came over the other day, almost fainted, cutting my hair.
Speaker 1
At the end of the cut, was like, yo, is there just like a store? I can get some snacks. Anything to fill me up on the ride home.
I was like, God damn, you going through it, this Ramadan.
Speaker 1 Dog, why you don't offer him snacks? Why ain't offering a nigga no snacks?
Speaker 1
Why you didn't offer him snacks? Why y'all assume I have snacks? You got something to have. You talk about how much seasoned.
Yo, you really did have a bad month? Yeah, I let you wholesome.
Speaker 1 You just fucked up.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I did. No, but hold on, wait.
You know what it is? You let me hold up. I earned some water now some snacks?
Speaker 1
I had to bad mum. Wait, hold up, hold up, real quick.
Would you let me hold something?
Speaker 1 It's different from when your little Elizabeth friends want to hold something. No,
Speaker 1
and you was on my case. I know it's different.
When I want to hold something, it ain't going to be the same as your little West Orange friends. I know, because they might not give it back.
Speaker 1 You got to get it. You got to give it away.
Speaker 1 When I come,
Speaker 1
pause. I need...
Pause.
Speaker 1
I need a few. I agree with you.
Niggas on my case about the
Speaker 1 350, nigga. Like, he, I started to think my man's struggling a little bit, but then I had to think that it's all part of his plan
Speaker 1 to distract us. Is that what it is? Yeah, because
Speaker 1 we've been coming at him for the past couple of weeks on here about
Speaker 1
him showing out and him not being generous, which he is. So then now he wants to double down.
Like, what's up with that?
Speaker 2 On the flip side, you call it, huh?
Speaker 1 He generously. You had a good month, huh?
Speaker 1 I did have a good month, yes. How much did you make last month?
Speaker 1 46.
Speaker 1 Nice.
Speaker 1 In the room alone,
Speaker 1 not including what you give me. Hold up, let us praise you.
Speaker 1
Take a compliment. Not including what he gives you.
No. So 66.
Woo.
Speaker 1
Well, the money time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no. 70.
No. I'm just saying, like, I made 40.
Oh, just, I made 46. Just working hard.
Speaker 1 What's your primary source?
Speaker 1 My primary source?
Speaker 1
I can't answer that. Why you don't ask him like you asked him the first time? Oh, yeah.
What I asked him, how you made that? Yeah. Just working?
Speaker 1 Working hard, filming. How you made that come off a a little different than what's your primary source? I was trying to be more respectful.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean, just working hard, filming, and trying to figure it out. You know, I put double work in because my plan was to take the whole month off.
That's my plan.
Speaker 1
To go to Trinidad, for sure. Yeah, to Trinidad and just handle some business because it's me and him going back and forth, playing around.
But you know, shit was looking too
Speaker 1 sweet.
Speaker 1 Shit looking good out there. My boy.
Speaker 1 My boy.
Speaker 1 I fixed the whole studio, nigga. 46.
Speaker 1 That's That's a good month.
Speaker 1
We made 46. Yeah, it's a great month.
It's a great month, money.
Speaker 1
God damn. There's no stopping it.
It's hard work and dedication, man. That money is gone anyway.
He teaches niggas how to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 He niggas.
Speaker 1 I'm asking.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm niggas. I'm niggas.
No, no, but it's not that. I need some help.
And I was just telling Ish, I said, yo, one of the accountants charged $500 an hour. Like, he even includes the email.
Speaker 1
If he responds to an email, he's some crazy shit that I'm learning in real time. Yeah.
And.
Speaker 1 Oh, you don't
Speaker 1
I didn't know that. I thought niggas just once you hire them.
It was literally the debate they was having two weeks ago. It's just verbatim.
Oh, for real? Verbatum.
Speaker 1 Oh, they were.
Speaker 1
Yeah, so when I went, I thought that, you know, once you hire them, they communicate with you, but now they charging by the email. If they have to respond to you, he's charging.
He's on a phone.
Speaker 1 He's a phone call per piece of corporate. I didn't see.
Speaker 1
If they pick up your phone. Your phone call.
Yes. You're getting charged for that.
And they call you on weekends and weekdays. They don't mind.
They'll call you at night.
Speaker 1 but you're being charged for that time.
Speaker 1 That's great though, man. And you got a lot of insurance costs too, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 Huh?
Speaker 1 I'm just imagining when you say the insurance costs are a little higher.
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 1
here's the thing, and this is why. You have insurance.
I do. Hold on, no, let me give me.
He's just answering like a nigga who don't. I'm about to respond.
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you like you like the crack jokes with you
Speaker 1
Let me respond, please. They was about to cancel my insurance because it was up for a renewal and I didn't pay.
I kept pushing it all, pushing it all because I was good with that with them.
Speaker 1 So there's somebody new there that told me, Yo, you got to pay what you got to pay, or your insurance is about to be canceled. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Because they off the strength earlier the month when I was not doing too good, they said, yo, I said, I don't got it right now. Can you send it? You know, I'm good for it.
They sent it.
Speaker 1
I gave it to my landlord. I just totally forgot the room was happening.
But, you know, I paid it. I paid it.
Please do. Today,
Speaker 1 I don't want nothing to happen. Like, some crazy, unexpected.
Speaker 1
Like a brawl could break out on a set. Somebody get stolen.
Somebody get punched in the face. Stop it.
You know what I mean? Next thing you you know, I paid it two days ago. Okay.
Solid. That's all.
Speaker 1 Damn. I'm going to get money up here.
Speaker 1 Yo, Mel. Why did you send me a break? You sent me a DM from you.
Speaker 1 They eating. You sent me a DM from
Speaker 1 here, kids.
Speaker 1 Do you run the hot and bother page? Is that you that runs it? The Instagram? Because you sent me a DM about wanting to live and health. So I don't know if you was like talking to me through it.
Speaker 1 Like, it was a video about one black man wanting to live. So one of her assistants was cracking on you?
Speaker 1 No, it wasn't cracking on me, but it was like, when I read it, I'm like, damn, Mel really wanted me to get healthy.
Speaker 1 i think it was me that was one of the spaces girl no it was me stop it that wasn't nobody but stop it this is she gave a free yeah
Speaker 1 she got a team of free intern intern
Speaker 1 intern i did that paid intern move too i paid for your gas
Speaker 1 come on gas uh yeah no that was
Speaker 1 that wasn't you it was me no it was me okay it was me i promise it was i ain't gonna lie the way you pull it off you find a way to get the free the free the the free shit.
Speaker 1 What did you tell him? What did you promise?
Speaker 1 I bring you to the JVP.
Speaker 1
I bring you up there. I flip it.
He went on the flip the network.
Speaker 1
Mel the network. We're going to bring you right on up.
Mel the network.
Speaker 1 Mail the network. Mel be hustling this shit out.
Speaker 1 She's getting it done, Joe. You hear me?
Speaker 1 Look.
Speaker 1 Didn't she make this little stupid face? Look. Look, then she made this little stupid ass face.
Speaker 1
Gotta love it. Gotta love it.
All right, Saturday night was the fight. Yes, sir.
Saturday night was the fight.
Speaker 1
Javante Tank Davis versus Lamont Roach Jr. I owe that man an apology.
We do.
Speaker 1
I mean, I ain't speaking for y'all. I don't know what anybody else said.
I came in here with my bold ass and was like, I would like for Tank to fight somebody that I know
Speaker 1 because I'm a casual fan.
Speaker 2 That was what you said, yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so I owe that man an apology. He certainly gained my respect.
Speaker 1 Really great fight, the best fight I've ever seen against Tank.
Speaker 1 I think he won.
Speaker 1 I do too. I think he won.
Speaker 1
If they're counting a knockdown, you got to count it. You can't count it.
Why not? It's not the rules. What's the rules? The rule is: if
Speaker 1 you take a knee as a result of some other circumstance outside of being punched or hit that forced you to take a knee, it doesn't count as a knockdown.
Speaker 1
Like an equipment malfunction or something like that, it don't count as a knockdown. But he got punched.
He did.
Speaker 1 So when they showed it, they showed the super slow-mo, the two punches that he threw missed them. Right before that, he got hit.
Speaker 1
But the two... No.
So he looked at the referee. He looked at the referee and took a knee.
He didn't, like, it wasn't a punch that forced him to take the knee. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
And they showed it a super slow-mo. That's open for interpretation as well.
That's true.
Speaker 1 And there's a lot of AI-generated videos with that because they're saying that at one point he turned his head and the punch missed, but I didn't.
Speaker 1
He got hit. He got hit.
Bro, they showed him a little bit.
Speaker 1
And then those two. Yeah, I've seen him in the house.
I'm talking about two different punches, yeah. I'm talking about the hit before those two check jabs right
Speaker 1 and then he looked at the ref for a while and then he took the knee and that's what makes the rule interesting because based on the rule you you the fact that you didn't get hit with them two jabs means you can take the knee because because the jabs didn't cause you to take the knee and but your point is well taken which is you can still be dizzy from the punch it was 30 seconds
Speaker 1 it was four punches though he threw a hard ass hook that missed Then he hit him with another like semi-hook. Then he threw two jabs that missed.
Speaker 1
So it's a possibility like when Tank hit Ryan with the that liver shot. He punched him.
My man took about three steps back and then was like, whoa. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying it's open to interpretation.
Like Mark said. My thing is, I don't think he lost.
I'm not hanging my hat on that knee either, by the way.
Speaker 1
Oh, I think he just lost. Nah, they gave, I think it was a draw.
Because they gave two of the judges gave Roach the 12th round.
Speaker 1 And that 12th round wasn't really Roach's, in my opinion. So I think, I think,
Speaker 1 I read that Tank got two of the judges gave Tank the 12th and if he didn't get
Speaker 1
those two judges in the 12th, he loses. See, I read it.
They said that they gave Roach the 12th. So we'll check it.
We'll check it.
Speaker 1
Tank won the last round. To me.
And two of the judges.
Speaker 1 Those two judges would have gave Tank the last round.
Speaker 1 Fact check that.
Speaker 1 Fact check that. What we're watching in real time is how the audience is, I don't want to say they're getting tired of Tank, but
Speaker 1
they... I want to say tired because I fuck with with tank.
No, tired is right. I took a nap during them first five rounds.
No, they, but they, they, they, I was dozing in and out.
Speaker 1 They were booing, they were, but they don't boot tank, they were booing tank. They started to boot tank based off his excuse about the grease in his eye, and um, they were booing him.
Speaker 1 He looked differently than he looked different than we're used to seeing him. All right, I gotta do it.
Speaker 1 Regardless of what you think of the outcome, you think you used to step or you think it was just a bad night?
Speaker 1 I mean,
Speaker 1 I think that everybody,
Speaker 1 I'm talking about two separate things. I'm not taking nothing away from Roach.
Speaker 1 I'm saying the tank that I saw on display that night was not like the tank I've seen in previous fights.
Speaker 1
That's what I'm saying. That could be from a bad night.
He looked frustrated in areas that I'm not used to seeing him frustrated in. I've seen a million clips that say he was beefing with
Speaker 1
Coach Cow in the corner. So there could have been a few things going on.
I just know that I'm not used to seeing him like that.
Speaker 1 I was just saying, I got the official scorecard up, and two of the judges did give Roach the 10th round. I mean excuse me.
Speaker 1
I don't think Roach He didn't win it. He didn't win the 12th round.
So that's the thing. Like they saying that they would have gave and those are the two judges that had an even score.
Speaker 1 Had to even fight. So if those two judges give Tank the 12th round, it's a unanimous decision.
Speaker 1
I think what I told Corey, we had the argument off camera. I think Tank gets hit a lot.
Every fight he fights, he gets hit a lot.
Speaker 1 What happens is he finds a way in the seventh or eighth round to hit somebody with some clean, hard shit that puts him down. And a lot of those fights, he be losing on the scorecard.
Speaker 1
He just be knocking niggas out. So in this particular fight, he couldn't knock Roach out.
Roach landed the, I mean, went the distance, and it was a pretty even fight.
Speaker 1
I think Tank might have got the edge, in my opinion, but it was a real clear fight. He gets hit a lot, though.
Tank was doing good.
Speaker 1 If he didn't lose it, he didn't win it. Yeah, I think a draw is fine.
Speaker 1
I think a draw is fine. He didn't win it.
I'm not mad at the draw. I'm not mad at the draw.
Speaker 1 Me either.
Speaker 1 But not mad at the draw.
Speaker 1 Can we acknowledge how we thought that this would be a bum fight? Not on Tank's behalf, but just like we didn't know who the guy was, and we were off our seats. We were on the edge.
Speaker 1
Lux was at my house and, you know, I was sitting there like, we were like this. Oh, shit.
I thought it was a good fight. It was a real good fight.
I thought it was a real...
Speaker 1 A real, real good fight. Shout out to
Speaker 1
the best. I'm sorry, ish.
One of the things I like with Tank, because we criticize people like Shakur. We criticize people when they want to box.
Right? When they strategically box.
Speaker 1 Tank kind of gives us what the fans want, which is a brawl. So then niggas was dissing him when he was brawling with a brawler and he wasn't dominating them.
Speaker 1
Which one do we want? We want a boxing match or you want a brawling match. You get what I'm saying? And I think that he typically brawls.
He gets hit a lot.
Speaker 1
He just hits harder. The niggas was hitting his shit out of the house.
Yeah, he just hits harder. They was taking some hits.
Yeah. From round six, seven on.
Speaker 1
It was a slug fest. Yeah.
That was an absolute match.
Speaker 1
Great fight. I got a problem with how late them fights be starting.
Me too. Me too.
This fight started real late. I don't stay out of the way.
Speaker 1
This fight started at 11:45. Yeah, I'd be bad.
Why do they do that? Over after one.
Speaker 1 Is that a business?
Speaker 1 It was in the east.
Speaker 2 No, I know, but usually the fights are on the west coast.
Speaker 1 So it starts like around like eight, nine o'clock over there.
Speaker 1
Get this shit cracking. Right.
We're in Brooklyn. Start this shit at six.
Because the undercar going at six, so we can see this fight before bedtime. I agree.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 Again, all the respect in the world to
Speaker 1 Lamont Roach.
Speaker 1 But again,
Speaker 1 them saying Lamont Roach won would have bigger implications than just on boxing.
Speaker 1 How so?
Speaker 1 Because Tank is the biggest draw right now, right? Indeed. Yes.
Speaker 1 Like nobody near anybody. In any way,
Speaker 1 in any way. Nowhere near it.
Speaker 1 And I think he's the,
Speaker 1 what is it, whatever he just mourned. Not he's the last American fighter, but he's the dominant American fighter.
Speaker 1 Like a lot of the other fighters have signed deals where they're in Abu Dhabi or over here or wherever.
Speaker 1 I'm not fact-checking right now, but I read something that says Shakur and a bunch of other niggas fuck with just non-American places.
Speaker 1
So if you're taking it from the biggest drawer in America, then nah, hell no. Because you're saying that still might be signed on American soil.
Big business. All business.
Big business.
Speaker 1 It's too many, it's too many things that are affected.
Speaker 1
Yeah, we can't let that happen. Yeah, no.
Sorry.
Speaker 1 I'm with that. I mean, we say we say that.
Speaker 1 We say it about other sports.
Speaker 1 It's true. You're fools.
Speaker 1
I'm going to let that happen. I'm with that.
That's our brand at that point. I'm not.
Speaker 1
Shout out to Tank, man. I think they announced all night, yo, we have reached a record for the number of people even allowed in the Barkleys tonight.
Damn. Wow.
They kept saying that.
Speaker 1 They've been to Barkley's a million times. Like, we're at 19,725.
Speaker 1 They was packed up in this. For a box,
Speaker 1 they get more in there, too. For a a boxing match.
Speaker 1 What did y'all think about his hair grease excuse for the knee?
Speaker 1 I think he believed it.
Speaker 1 And that's what's going on.
Speaker 1
And Amanda, she came out and said that she had a similar situation. Same thing happened to her.
I read it.
Speaker 1
Amanda Serrano. Oh.
Yeah, she said that she said it happened to me before. She said that it burns your eyes.
Speaker 1 It happened to me before when I was getting to Beijing.
Speaker 1 Beijing started.
Speaker 1
She started dripping in your eye now. It's like, damn, oh shit.
Oh, when her grease started dripping in your eye,
Speaker 1 her grease?
Speaker 1 She on top.
Speaker 1
It's like that. You a porn star.
Like, you and you hefna would have been, you would have been in the Playboy Mansion. Never.
That probably was your wish as a kid. Never.
Speaker 1 I can't wait to go there with that. Listen,
Speaker 1
snow bunnies in charge. With all due respect.
To get in there? After watching everybody at the basketball court,
Speaker 1 she's going to be on top. She does word.
Speaker 1 Word.
Speaker 1 Respectfully. No,
Speaker 1
myself included. I said, word.
Myself included.
Speaker 1
That's the first thing I said to him. I said, damn, son, you can't even.
I was like, damn, son, you can't even get into your shit no more. What'd you say? It's a rap.
You're going to be on top.
Speaker 1 He's like, nah,
Speaker 1
I get work. I get a little rope.
I mean,
Speaker 1 that's what my Sunday was.
Speaker 1 Rotate a cuff. That's fucked up.
Speaker 1 Our partners deserve better, but nah. Nah, I felt horrible.
Speaker 1 I felt hard about myself.
Speaker 1
If Lamont. Yo, you good? Hold up, fuck.
Are you cool? Oh, no, I'm great. Are you cool?
Speaker 1 I caught you making that little stupid face at us. I caught you making that little stupid face at us.
Speaker 2 Listen, I'm just glad that, you know, like the, it's
Speaker 2 the collective delusion has lifted. The cloud has lifted, and now you guys are, you know, we're in age men.
Speaker 1
Yeah. We're in our place.
Yeah, yeah. That's fair.
It's cute. It's cute.
It's cute.
Speaker 1 You were saying. I said, if Lamont Roche Jr.
Speaker 1
does well in his next fights, man, we got a new star, you know. He's tough.
He's fire. I mean, he made a statement from D.C.
Speaker 1 What's his record? I don't follow boxing much.
Speaker 1
You got a good record? I got a good record. Okay.
So, this isn't like a Styles Mixed Fights thing where
Speaker 1
I won't loss. Okay.
He was trying to do that. He was doing a shoulder roll, and I see that Tank
Speaker 1
figured out the double jab with the left or whatever he was doing to get past the shoulder roll. People can't do it like Floyd.
Floyd. People can't do it like Floyd.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 People can't do it like Floyd works. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Then that's the other problem, right? With all due respect, I ain't just going to throw the star word around so loosely. True.
Like, it takes a lot outside of boxing
Speaker 1
to do what Tank has done, what Floyd did, what Pacquiao did. What De La Joya did.
Tank is that nigga. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Like, when you start getting into the box office aspect, Lamont Roach probably got the boxing. You need that other part.
But he's never had an opportunity to do it.
Speaker 1 So we don't know if you can do it until you get the shot. Dog, I feel like
Speaker 1 even at the weigh-in and and uh and uh interviews the they when they at the table and they're doing the interviews that lead yeah the face all that leading up to the fight even kind of lacked lacked some of the normal flair that tank brings yep normally i think that's because i know we i know you we've been fighting since we was 10.
Speaker 1 and they both from the same he's like yo your mom is here come on i'm not gonna do that in front of your mom it's like we not getting we not getting
Speaker 1 and lamont is like they asking him some of the juicy
Speaker 1 Yo,
Speaker 1
in an interview, you said Tank wasn't going to knock you out and you was going to destroy him. What do you think about that? And he gave the logical man answer.
Like, the fuck you want me to say?
Speaker 1
That's what they asked me. I'm fighting this man.
Like, how would you like me to answer that? That makes sense. It's not so box off.
That ain't what boxing is for you. It's not so box office.
Nah.
Speaker 1
But I think that's what I'm saying. Not when you was friends with somebody, Joe.
No, I think once you respect a nigga, once you've been in that ring for 12 rounds, that nigga hit hard.
Speaker 1
He wasn't no slouch. He wasn't no chump.
I got to respect him on him, look like a bad one. They started fighting each other dirty a little.
Speaker 1 They started getting mad at each other.
Speaker 1 We in warden, they were talking crazy to each other in the ring.
Speaker 1
Yo, what y'all think about the uh hairstylist coming out? Sit down, yeah. It's not your time.
All right, sit down somewhere.
Speaker 1
I think she's lost a couple thousand dollars because that's the last time you'll do my hair, you dummy, just to get some fucking clap. You an idiot.
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1
You shouldn't have had nothing to say. Stupid.
I didn't use grease.
Speaker 1 I'd have came out. Y'all put extra grease in your shit.
Speaker 1
My bad. It's my fault.
It's my fault, right? Call him down. Crazy, stupid ass.
To get some grease. Yeah, I would have just took a different angle.
Did y'all like his hair?
Speaker 1
My bad, Tank. I apologize.
Right. I'll try to use some oil-based next time.
I upset all I shot. Even if he was lying.
Right. Yeah.
That ain't for you to say shit. Surrounding it.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.
That's your job.
Speaker 1 We need to bring that. Bring back people supporting your lie.
Speaker 1
It ain't enough of that no more. These bitches got all the gadgets and the tricks and the iPhones and the iCloud linked to their phone and the iPad.
No, bring back when you need it.
Speaker 1 Bring back.
Speaker 1 He's going to blow a gasket over here.
Speaker 1 Trigger like a ball.
Speaker 1 Bring back when you just need it.
Speaker 1 One friend to support the lie.
Speaker 1 Yo, you know what they need to bring back? Yo, call her right now. Like, we don't even get that no more.
Speaker 1
That was the one. Call her right now.
Call her right now.
Speaker 1
When Joe received the call, they were looking for Michael Paul. He came inside like, something's going on my phone.
They called me about Michael Paul, like I'm a doctor. Like, his shit is tapped.
Speaker 1
He knows his shit tapped. He can't.
His shit tapped. They called me, asked me if I was available to do a surgery.
I knew they had to. I said, You joking?
Speaker 1 I was like, yo,
Speaker 1
I'll come up there. Yo, my thumb a little fucked up, but I'm nice with the knife.
I'm free.
Speaker 1 I'll come up there and say somebody, John Q, bitch.
Speaker 1 No, I owe it to humanity to try. Yeah, no, for real.
Speaker 1
I owe it to humanity to try. Great fight, though.
Shout out to both of them. Shout out to both of them.
Looking forward to the shit. Shout out to the rematch.
Speaker 1
Hopefully, they get a rematch. I don't think he had a rematch clause.
He did have a rematch clause. He said on Twitter.
Really? Because Tank was like, I'm pushing for the rematch fast.
Speaker 1 And then Lamont was like, it's in there already.
Speaker 1 No, they both was like, yo, we should do it again.
Speaker 1 No, no. Lamont said, it's in the contract
Speaker 1
already. On Twitter.
Because you wanted it in there. So if you want a rematch, take the fucking rematch.
Mm-hmm. right
Speaker 1 cool we'll see look
Speaker 1 you know all it's gonna do
Speaker 1 to change
Speaker 1 the price that's it it's gonna push the price now everybody gonna want to see the shit yeah it's gonna push the price because you're gonna be high
Speaker 1 90 days
Speaker 1 and now it's gonna command vegas
Speaker 1 did that fight make you feel differently about what you thought of
Speaker 1 tank versus Shakur?
Speaker 1 No. No.
Speaker 1 Who would you have winning in there?
Speaker 1
I can't answer. It's hard because styles make fights, but I told, me and Corey had this argument off camera.
I said that,
Speaker 1 see the way Roach was fighting? They was literally going toe to toe. Like, yo, Shakor's not going to do that.
Speaker 1 Shakur's not trying to get hit. You get what I'm saying? So it's going to just be
Speaker 1 a style thing.
Speaker 1 If Shakur can hit him and move and hit him and move and hit him and move, he'll beat him in points.
Speaker 1 If Tank can land one of them monster hits that he be doing, then he'll knock him out. But Tank could take punches,
Speaker 1
he got a chin, yo. He take a lot of punches, he got a chin.
So I think that you never know. Because, again, it's the style thing.
Speaker 1 The North, New Jersey in me will not allow me to honestly answer that question.
Speaker 1 That's my answer.
Speaker 1
There you go, Free. Yo, you stupid, yo.
There you go, Free. I ain't gonna say that.
I've seen a lot of people giving Tank
Speaker 1 slack for coming out with Jim and Jewels.
Speaker 1
I'm from New York, so I can't get into that. I thought it was fly.
Why, though?
Speaker 1 Like, what is there? This is trying to be sick. What's the connection? What's the critique?
Speaker 1
The critique is a lot of people feel like they've never seen Tank look like that. So they're saying bad juju was on him from Jim and G.
Wells. Cam said it's bad energy when you came out.
Speaker 1
You can't say that. Then there's some other comedian niggas that have been saying, yo, why the fuck are you got these old young niggas? Whatever they were saying.
Again, I'm from New York.
Speaker 1
I can't rock with it. I was hype.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1
I was hype. I like that song.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I like Krunk music.
Speaker 1 Kid Krunk.
Speaker 1
They just gonna keep getting that Jim for looking young. Yeah.
Like dressing young,
Speaker 1
the chrome heart scarf. Like, you can't win.
But that's his battle. That's what he do.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Listen, my New York bias shows in Jim Jones conversation, so I'm leaving it. So I'm leaving it, man.
That album's crazy, though.
Speaker 1
It is really good. That really is.
That's really good. That's really good.
It's like the cops start to finish. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1
All right, what else we got? What else we got? Why is Paul George on the board? I just want to understand. Oh, man.
Because Paul George
Speaker 1 last week. Ski Mask Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 He might be the
Speaker 1 Dondono. Don't you wish for the days when all you had to complain about was Tobias Harris contract?
Speaker 1
Remember that? And he's killing. In Detroit.
He's doing well. I didn't want to lose to him.
Paul George said that he's stopping his podcast to focus on winning a championship. Thanks.
And
Speaker 1 I thought that was Sintel,
Speaker 1 but it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 He really said that.
Speaker 1 So the question for me, not to take it off of Paul George, but because I think that's fair, is in general, should NBA players be allowed to have podcasts?
Speaker 2 While they're in season?
Speaker 1 While they're in season? I don't like it.
Speaker 2 Or even while they're in play
Speaker 2 versus the ones that are retired right now.
Speaker 1 I'm not a fan of the
Speaker 1 sports
Speaker 1 podcast.
Speaker 1 Having podcasts during season.
Speaker 1
I've never been a fan of it. I stand with ICE.
I almost wanted to say it, really not if your team is doing bad. I can't see how your conversation with the owner is going in that respect.
Speaker 1 Jalen Brunson makes it tough for me to have that argument because him and Josh Hart have a podcast that I want them to stop.
Speaker 1
But every time we're down by 12 with 30 seconds left, he scores fucking 14 points. Right.
So I can't say anything about Jalen Brunson's performance, but would I like that podcast to stop?
Speaker 1 during season year. But then
Speaker 1 they got Dolan on the next podcast that they're promoting, which is like a cluster fuck for knicks fans because dolan has had strict media rules since he inherited the team from his dad yeah so for him to be sitting with a player and talking is like phenomenal it's like it's almost like the yankees changing the beard rule i think it's dope i think it gives them something mentally to to distract their focus um
Speaker 1 they don't
Speaker 1 They work out every day, but they don't work out hard every day. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Like they watch film, they might do walkthroughs and shit like that, but then they have a huge portion of their day that belongs to them.
Speaker 1
So if these are things that bring their anxiety down, it's fun, they enjoy doing it. Keep them up the clubs.
Yeah, and that part. We're in New York City, bro.
We've seen what New York does.
Speaker 1
We've seen what New York does to athletes. You know what I'm saying? So if they could do this.
You've seen it for sure, right? You too. Talk about it.
Yeah, you got eyes.
Speaker 1
We're talking about you right now. Talk about it.
You've seen it for sure, for sure. I've seen it for sure, for sure.
You was one of the niggas that did it.
Speaker 1 I don't hoop.
Speaker 1 You didn't need to.
Speaker 1 Anyway, so I think I'm for it. I'm against it.
Speaker 1 Even what you said, if it takes, they focus. Like, if I think if your team is ass,
Speaker 1 I don't want to see you focused on nothing else.
Speaker 1 It's Kyler Murray playing Call of Duty. So, but
Speaker 1 you could do it, and you're, I just don't want to know that you're doing that. To me, you should be trying to get better.
Speaker 1 Y'all should be trying to focus on how to turn this team around and try to get some wins out there.
Speaker 1
If you're sitting here kicking it with your homies or whatever on a podcast, about it just seems focused is off. They're human, bro.
So to Joe's point, with Brunson and Josh Art,
Speaker 1
they winning. Yeah, but that's an outlier.
Oh, that's not true. Draymond is winning.
Draymond's winning too. But for me, for me, it's not about.
Bron is winning.
Speaker 1
If you're winning, no one complains. If you're losing, people complain.
But for me, and that's ultimately what it comes down to, right?
Speaker 1 As a fan or as an owner, that's the perception of it for me, as well as the effectiveness of it. The first question is: can you pod and be good at this at your job? And I don't know.
Speaker 1 Some people can, some people can't. Before podcasts, Paul George was sitting out games.
Speaker 1 Before podcasts existed, he was fucking coming up short in playoffs, at least in a lot of people's minds. The numbers don't really show that, but whatever, right? It's the perception of it.
Speaker 1 So if I'm the Sixers owner and they're selling tickets for a dollar right now in Philly, they're literally selling tickets for you ain't been down there in a long time neither.
Speaker 1 No, I sold all my tickets.
Speaker 1
I paid like $200,000 for this ticket. He just won another date.
No, I didn't. No, he didn't.
No, he didn't go.
Speaker 1 No, he didn't go anymore.
Speaker 1 He going to call you when he go again?
Speaker 1 So if I can't give these tickets away, and Embiid is injured, Paul George ain't playing, and then I go to YouTube to type Paul George in to find out when he's going to play.
Speaker 1 And instead, I got another episode of Podcast P.
Speaker 1
It just looks bad. It's about and it's bad for business.
That Paul George contract, I think, is like a five-year deal, something nuts. It looks nuts as it goes.
Speaker 1 Embiid being unavailable is an understatement. They're now talking about getting their money back on his contract
Speaker 1 if he's unable to play a year from the date that
Speaker 1 it's.
Speaker 1
They call. Yo, you're going to get my money.
I don't care about all those.
Speaker 1 It's over now, right?
Speaker 1
We got to go figure out what that bet was. It's $5,000.
Five racks. Yeah, you just got to send that.
I'll give it to you right now if you want it. You have $5,000 cash in them jeans.
Speaker 1
You'd be able to see them. You'd be able to see that.
You'd be able to.
Speaker 1
I was going to bring it to you in cash. Our man is doing the best.
Our man is doing bad.
Speaker 1 He doing bad. He fucked up.
Speaker 1 Four years, 2-11.
Speaker 1 He must be fucked up. My man doing bad.
Speaker 2 Oh, he collects on his bets.
Speaker 1 Nah, but he usually.
Speaker 1
I never see. Niggas hungry in his voice.
Nigga, you touch him if he got a fever. You could, my nigga?
Speaker 1
You doing shit. It's looking shaky for you, doggy.
I don't know what plan you got. It's tough after that.
But I ain't falling for it, nigga. I'm saying this.
Speaker 1 Niggas brought fake water in here, all type of shit.
Speaker 1 Forced water with niggas' names on it. It's tough.
Speaker 1
Don't always assume I'm doing good. Check on your strong friends.
He makes a 53 million this year. He's at career lows.
Speaker 1 Joe? Oh, Joe? Yeah, Joe about that.
Speaker 1
Oh, 40. That shit is nuts.
Yo,
Speaker 1 he signed a four-year deal for 211. Change.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they sick.
Speaker 1 He's killing.
Speaker 1 And as a fan, he averaged 16 points a game. As much money as I spent on season tickets,
Speaker 1 I actually see it as like
Speaker 1 y'all are fucking with my money right now. Like, I feel disrespected.
Speaker 1 I feel disrespected to watch somebody not play.
Speaker 1
I mean, when we went to the game, he was just sitting there chilling. Chilling.
Yeah. He was chilling.
To see that, and then to watch you be on a podcast every day.
Speaker 1
A podcast is different than playing basketball. I get that.
We proved that this weekend. But, like, at some point, like, you got to look like you giving the effort.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 As an owner, I think they should just make a rule. I can't say nothing about Paul George.
Speaker 1 Negative ever, because many years ago, we was heading into whip.
Speaker 1 Right there, right, right, right there by greenhouse. We was walking in whip, and I was behind him in the line.
Speaker 1 Or he was behind me in the line.
Speaker 1 I got respect for him.
Speaker 1 I got respect for him, man. How many?
Speaker 1 That shit is a cheap goal.
Speaker 1 6'9 in the line.
Speaker 1 Decent looking, nice schedule.
Speaker 1 Fresh lineup.
Speaker 1
Good contract. I'm in there bumming.
Salutation. Bummy as hell shooting.
I don't care. Joe Budden.
I got immense respect for Paul George, so I can't say anything about him. I have a question.
Speaker 1 God damn. Real quick.
Speaker 1 When Luca wiped his sweat on the basketball and
Speaker 1 that ref wanted to smack the shit out of Luca. Did she have a right to be mad?
Speaker 1 Was that a girl?
Speaker 1 Hey,
Speaker 1
I. I was gone, I think.
Sorry, bomb me. Did the ref have a right to be upset? Yes.
Yes and no.
Speaker 1 Luca has a right to do that. The ref has a right to be mad.
Speaker 1
Stop, nigga. It's a million people that work here that can get you a towel or anything to wipe your sweat off.
I'm the one handling this ball.
Speaker 1
You're wiping your sweat on the ball, and I got to handle it right here on the free throw line. Yo, them niggas be sweaty as fuck.
Like be wiping them. They're the Yugoslavians.
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1 What's Luca?
Speaker 1 What's Luca?
Speaker 1 He's something. He's sweat.
Speaker 1 Some shit, right?
Speaker 1 They be sweaty, them.
Speaker 1 Dem. Dumb.
Speaker 1
Yo, but again, everybody's jersey be sweaty like they're wipe their jersey. It's the same shit.
These black people don't act like that.
Speaker 2 I was right. He's Slovenian.
Speaker 1 See?
Speaker 1
He's Slovenian. What the fuck is that? What country? Yugoslavia, nigga.
Yes.
Speaker 2 No. No, it's not Yugoslavian.
Speaker 1 Slovenia.
Speaker 1 She's
Speaker 1 potentially part of the old Yugoslavia?
Speaker 2 Melania is from there.
Speaker 1
Yo, homie down. Homie Dam, Mark.
Yo, you're American.
Speaker 1
Enough of that sick shit you be talking about. But she's Russian, too, nigga.
She knows that side. You're American.
She knows that side. Nigga, we just crack jokes.
Speaker 1
Our mother was whooping her ass as a kid. She knows that's a nigga.
She had to walk with the president picture. Remember what we said? I think
Speaker 1 they read it found the picture on her mom. Oh, that shit was funny.
Speaker 2
It's possible. It's possible.
I posted pictures of me and my mom on my page.
Speaker 1
Reddit, get off the mask. You held it down, though.
That was man funny. Oh,
Speaker 1
you held it down. No, I mean the jokes.
Like, that shit was hilarious.
Speaker 1
She's a great sport. Yeah, no, that was hilarious.
That was absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1
All right. Paul George.
I think he got the memo. Yes, he did.
Speaker 1 Even saying that out loud.
Speaker 1 All right, we're going to try to do this with care and sensitivity.
Speaker 1 We're going to try to do this in a manner to where y'all still have time to do what you need to do out there.
Speaker 1 We're going to try to do this with the utmost respect for the viewers without too many spoilers
Speaker 1 Spoiler alert spoiler alert They may indeed, oh my god, did they kill the soundtrack?
Speaker 1 Did they absolutely smoke
Speaker 1 the soundtrack?
Speaker 1 Oh, let me stop this for a second. Had me singing that shit with it.
Speaker 1
No, because first they was just doing the instrumental, and I caught it and I was like, oh, they caught that. This is my question to y'all.
This is just quick.
Speaker 1 Which do you prefer?
Speaker 1 You're such a honky. Shut your ass.
Speaker 2 Phil fucking Collins.
Speaker 2 He's him.
Speaker 1 Which do y'all prefer?
Speaker 1 What they did on Paradise, where they have the angelic white voice coming down to do your favorite known slap like Paradise under a soft
Speaker 1 bed of music?
Speaker 1
Or the trend in the movies where they take the hard rap song hook and slow it all the way down like the horror movies. Like I got five on it.
Boy.
Speaker 1 Like which one?
Speaker 1
They did that. I love that.
They do that a lot now in the movies.
Speaker 1 With that one in particular.
Speaker 1
Say my name for Candyman. They did that one.
Yeah, they're doing it now. I'm with that.
In the new one,
Speaker 1 bear with me because my brain is leaving me.
Speaker 1 In the new one, not a Marvel movie, but one of them new hero movies that's coming out soon. I think they did
Speaker 1 Starship.
Speaker 1 Like, and they slowed that down, and that was absolutely insane. All right, y'all know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 What song from Starship, though?
Speaker 1
Fucking Sarah. The one.
Hold up.
Speaker 1 Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Speaker 1 The one I just played recently.
Speaker 1 Was he?
Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.
Speaker 1 Well, anyway, I like
Speaker 1
slowed up shit. I'll find it my record.
I like when they do both. I like both.
I like how they did with this. I like both.
The angelic white voice is underrated. I love me a good angelic white voice.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1 Did everybody here see the finale of Paradise? Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 Hey,
Speaker 1 yeah, 40 and up right now.
Speaker 1 Let's go get your bag, big bell. Hey.
Speaker 1 Shout out to the legend Phil Collins, too. They put a lot of your holidays.
Speaker 1 He pretends he can't hear her.
Speaker 1 Starts to whistle as he crosses the street. I'm so mad at myself for all the guesses that I did as to who's gonna kill Cal.
Speaker 1 Think twice.
Speaker 1 Cause it's another day that you and me in paradise.
Speaker 1 Oh, hey.
Speaker 1
Think twice. Light is in there, right in there.
It's another day for you.
Speaker 1 You and me in paradise. Nah, let the musician get in bed.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 Hey.
Speaker 1 Is this y'all rock?
Speaker 1
Nah. No.
No. Borderline, but it's a little passage.
All right.
Speaker 1
Very angry at myself for my guests. I listen to these spoilers.
I love you. You didn't see it? Take a break.
No, I'm going to the bathroom. Take a break.
Yeah, I'm like six episodes. Get out of y'all.
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. Get out of here.
Sit down now.
Speaker 1
Starbucks. Take a hike.
Get a fuck Mark. Go to fucking Starbucks.
Grab us some lunch or something. What a jerk.
Speaker 1 What a fucking jerk.
Speaker 1 It's no way anybody could have
Speaker 1
fucking wings. Cliff Hanks.
It's not true. How? It's not possible.
It was real easy to say, oh, the guy that they showed us trying to kill him. No, it's not, yeah, but you don't think that's true.
Speaker 1
But you know what they did. We thought that they tackled him and he went to prison.
My brain should have came up with that one. Oh, it's the guy that they showed us already.
No.
Speaker 1
Trying to murder this nigga. You would have never thought that.
No, why? Because you wouldn't have had a backstory as to why he tried to kill him in the first place.
Speaker 1
To me, that shouldn't have mattered. And I would have thought they killed that guy.
I would have thought, yeah, or I thought they killed him for life. I would have thought he was locked up.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I thought he'd left it. But he was locked up, but he got out of there.
Yeah, but we don't. don't, we never would even remotely have an inkling that he would get out of there.
Speaker 1
In prison break, he got out of there. And that hunting show, they get out of there.
And on TV, the guy gets out of jail.
Speaker 1 On TV, jail ain't as secure as they fucking make it. No, the other guest with the lady,
Speaker 1
that was a better guess. That was a good guess.
That was a better guess.
Speaker 1 What did y'all think of the finale? Come on, talk to me, talk to me.
Speaker 1
I'm not going too much into detail. I didn't like it too tough.
I like it. I was very underwhelmed.
I liked it. Very underwhelmed.
Speaker 1 I remember when it first went up, when it went off, I looked at the TV. I was like, damn, that was kind kind of like.
Speaker 1 Were you underwhelmed because you didn't see the, you didn't know that he would be the killer?
Speaker 2 We were underwhelmed, if I could talk to both of us, because the fucking show jumped the shark in the first season.
Speaker 1 Whoa, that's a little
Speaker 1 bit of a tough one. For people who don't know what the term shark is.
Speaker 2 It's a TV term.
Speaker 1 We've broke this down at least six times a week. But fuck it.
Speaker 2 New listeners,
Speaker 2 if you're not familiar with the term, it basically means when a TV series plot line has gone from plausible, because there's always a suspended state of reality to to dramatic effect.
Speaker 2 Yeah, so it goes from being plausible to completely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 What did you think was completely ridiculous about it?
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 if you thought that up to episode seven, it's been plausible,
Speaker 1 no because that could be deemed as completely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 No, you're right. And
Speaker 2
like I said, that's why I said suspend reality and you know, just kind of understand that the show is a lot of dramatic effect is taken here. A lot of liberties is taken.
So you do that.
Speaker 2 But then it's like, okay, dude's in fucking jail, happens to be in Colorado, then there's a prison break. And it's just like the timing is so short.
Speaker 2 And for all of these tiny little variables to come into play, he breaks out of fucking prison. He happens to get the cop uniform.
Speaker 2 Then he's walking down the street, you know, checking IDs of people who are in cars.
Speaker 2 And there's hundreds of thousands of cars, but he just happens to buck up on the two people that have clearance to go to paradise. Come the fuck on.
Speaker 1 And then He's searching for people.
Speaker 2 But the timing, there's just, it's just,
Speaker 1
he was from the area. He was working there.
Sam, here. He tried to assassinate him there.
It was from the city.
Speaker 1
He wasn't from Colorado. He was working on the thing.
He was working in the thing. He was one of the creators.
Speaker 1
He helped build it. He was the manager.
He was the engineer. He was the foreman.
Yes, you're right. You're right.
They locked him up in that jail. Yes.
Cool.
Speaker 1
So when the jail break happens, of course, if the world goes awry, the motherfuckers that are in jail are going to try to break out. That would happen next door.
That's a fact.
Speaker 1
If the world goes awry, he gots out. Everybody else on some run-a-muck shit.
He's an analytic. He sees the dude down there with a badge, with a uniform, with all of those things.
Speaker 1
I get out, I kill him. Okay.
I mean, I kill him. I take the knife out of his chest.
Now I have a uniform that makes me look
Speaker 1 official and representable. I totally understand.
Speaker 2 And I see the purpose for it all, but it just took it just to me.
Speaker 1 And it wasn't hundreds of thousands of cars.
Speaker 2 Did you see the aerial shots?
Speaker 1 I saw it. Of all the cars.
Speaker 1 And he's going car by car, like, yo.
Speaker 1 And they're like, yeah, they got us going, blah, blah, blah. And that road might have been the road to.
Speaker 1 Promising. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I knew he was going to kill the people.
Speaker 1 He killed the people. And then
Speaker 2 he's coming out of like a convenience store and just happens to find this woman who's just sitting there.
Speaker 1
It just looked. That was one of my favorite parts.
That was one of his favorite parts because now
Speaker 1 you want to be in the best spot that that you could be of any one
Speaker 1 right place. Right time.
Speaker 1 And it makes me look that much more representable because it was the librarian and his wife.
Speaker 1 So now my wife and I are going to get on. It makes it look, you know what I mean? Like more
Speaker 1 acceptable. Yeah, like it's a husband and wife couple as opposed to just this single man coming on.
Speaker 2 No, bring the wife and then in addition to that,
Speaker 2 we look at the president's house or the former president's house. He's got guards and sort of so he just happens to know.
Speaker 1 That's what killed me.
Speaker 2 He just happens to know that he's going to get past all the Secret Service agents and get up to this man's bedroom and kill him.
Speaker 1 Only two.
Speaker 1
And they was off their guard. Only two.
And they showed you that every single day. You wouldn't know it.
In episode one, the guards were addicted to video games. They play video games every day at 11
Speaker 1 holes in the security.
Speaker 2 He doesn't know that, though.
Speaker 1 How do you know he's not watching this?
Speaker 1 He might be stalking the house.
Speaker 1
Because he said his watch to exactly 11 o'clock. If you see he was in the bushes, his watch said 11 o'clock.
As soon as his wife said 11 o'clock, he put his shit into play.
Speaker 1 So at 11 o'clock, they always say that these two stupid motherfuckers killed a security to play we.
Speaker 1
And the fuck. Yes.
So he might have been watching the house for a period of time. Because to me, what made it
Speaker 1 less plausible is the daughter going with the girl.
Speaker 1
The daughter should have died. That is my only beef about the finale.
The daughter should have been gone when it looked like Jamie texted Sinatra and say, yo, it was done.
Speaker 1
I don't know how, yeah, I don't know how she survived and Jamie dropped her off. And now.
Nah, she was lying to her the whole shit. I know.
Speaker 1
The lady was really crazy. Jamie.
Jamie. Jamie is really nuts.
Speaker 2 So I'm confused. Would you have popped her?
Speaker 1 Popped Jane? Yeah.
Speaker 1
Either shooter or popped her fucked her. No, no, no.
Fucked her. If I was
Speaker 1 Bill or anybody in there, if you was the guy playing the Wii in there and worked with Jane. Yeah, you fucked Jane.
Speaker 1
Little goofy ass girl, you don't know she's nuts because she played the goofy role to the T. Yo, niggas have to throw that line in the garbage.
We didn't know she was nuts. Sometimes.
Speaker 1
Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes you don't know it too.
Only sometimes, sometimes, a lot of times we know. Most times we know they know.
And we just be like, all right, dog. That girl was playing.
Speaker 1 You like that flex
Speaker 1
very well. She was.
When she poisoned that nigga said,
Speaker 1
you said bring the biggest motherfucker. The nuts bitches be having a good shit and abusive bitches.
Yeah,
Speaker 1
I'll keep saying, y'all stop playing. Jane, twice.
The bitches that's going to throw lamp at you, them fire.
Speaker 1 Right after, too.
Speaker 1
They just passionate. They're passionate.
That's all it is.
Speaker 2 Okay, but I was confused about when Jane shoots her.
Speaker 2
And then she walks up to Sinatra and she says, he was going to shoot you in the head. I killed you.
And she was like, you have a long road of recovery. Where did she shoot?
Speaker 2 To where she didn't look like she shot her in the fucking neck.
Speaker 1
No, because she's a secret service agent. They don't don't really miss.
So I'm going to shoot you, bitch, where I know you ain't going to die. Probably to the right of your heart somewhere.
Speaker 1 That's what it looked like. Yeah.
Speaker 1 You're not going to die.
Speaker 1
Okay. You're welcome because he was going to shoot you in your fucking head.
He should have.
Speaker 1 And I need to make it look like you're going to die.
Speaker 1 Like I meant to kill you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Should have been shot. Listen,
Speaker 1 I don't want us to delve too deep into this because I want to give people a chance to watch it, even though we just unpacked everything for the most part.
Speaker 1 But I wasn't mad at the finale. I wasn't at all.
Speaker 1
For a quick eight-episode run. And you got to figure that they didn't necessarily know for certain that there was going to be every reason too.
Exactly. That's right.
That was big. And I think that,
Speaker 1 again, I'm always looking for the other shit.
Speaker 2 The overall theme.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that when he starts to tell him, like, yo, dog, I started getting comfortable here. I thought that we had like a rebirth.
Speaker 1 a potential for society and you same rich oligarch motherfuckers put us in prison and started doing the same exact things that y'all fucked up upstairs with that shit was monumental for me him talking him talking to homeboy like the little subtle shit like you know when i'll be watching i'll be looking at the shit away from the action
Speaker 1 all right but dog that that was monumental when he was talking to him i agree with you like y'all did this for adam shit like that like it was it was it was big and and trigger warning i ain't really like the librarian's suicide jump
Speaker 1
Nah, that was kind of fly. I didn't love it.
I thought it was like some, nah, he should have been shot before then. Like, his jump wasn't assertive at all.
Speaker 1 He would have took that next little chunk of that sky he did sure did and i don't think he should have jumped i i wouldn't have shot him if i was them i'd have shot him if you were them hell yeah not in the head you know i mean he'd have got shot that you'd have
Speaker 1 you can shoot a without killing him and he had the weapon in the library he should have definitely shot he had a murder weapon in the glass case in the library
Speaker 1 i don't think that's what i'm saying i don't think you should have shot him i think that we trying to get out of here So whatever information that you have is more needed than not.
Speaker 1 I wouldn't have shot him.
Speaker 1 And after he sat there and told you why he did what he did, it's the same journey that homeboy was on at that point.
Speaker 1
We bringing down all the rich motherfuckers. It was the same exact journey that homeboy was on at that point.
So why not make him an ally instead of shooting him?
Speaker 1
I enjoyed the episode. Me too.
I also enjoyed,
Speaker 1
in real life, Sterling K. Brown's wife doing the, she was doing a watch reaction.
Oh, for real? Holy shit. So
Speaker 1 when Sterling Kay Brown,
Speaker 1 the wife is watching, like,
Speaker 1 yo, nigga, that's all you had.
Speaker 1 That's what you said to stop her, try to stop her from going to Atlanta? Like, now I'm looking at you funny. Like, what if this was the real deal?
Speaker 1
What if this was the real deal? Like, tell me. His real wife.
His real wife. That's funny.
His watching was saying shit. No, practice right now.
Speaker 1 Tell me how you could get me to not go to Atlanta, because this shit's passive.
Speaker 1 No, that shit was absolutely real.
Speaker 1 One thing I like, I like when Cal
Speaker 1
pressed the blue button to stop all the, you know, to shut the world down. I thought that was dope.
I didn't see that coming at all.
Speaker 1
That's one thing I thought. Oh, he broke the blue shit.
Yeah, he broke the blue shit and he typed the code in to stop all the nuclear bombs and to shut the world down. It
Speaker 1
sets us back 500 years. But I thought that was great.
I like that part, though. Yeah, me too.
And I just chalked this up as one of those shows.
Speaker 1
Sometimes you get shows where the finale is before the finale. And that's what this was.
Like, episode seven was there a bang. Yeah.
Yeah. Now we just closing this up to get to the next season.
Speaker 1
And to Parks' Point. And if that happens, I remember everybody's reaction after episode seven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, to Parks' Point, they might have had a whole different episode eight.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
And now we got to renew it. We got to rewrite episode one of the seven.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
To open it up. Overall, still a great show.
It's still
Speaker 1
a great show. Eight episodes, even if you didn't like the finale.
You can't be mad. I'm not knocking the show at all.
Let's hit the round of applause for Sterling K.
Speaker 1
Brown, everybody on the staff for Paradise. Really good show.
It was made by the same guy as this is us. That makes sense.
Dan Fogelman. Dan Fogelman.
I see his style, man. I see a good style.
Speaker 1 You good, boy. It's a good style.
Speaker 1
You mad at that boy. That boy is good.
Let's bring this right back. Fuck that.
Yeah, I ain't mad at all. I ain't mad at all.
Speaker 1 What else? What else out there is important or unimportant?
Speaker 1
Y'all said Biggie's catalog is going up for sale? It is and his... $125 million.
Likeness and all that shit. Wow.
With the likeness.
Speaker 2 Yeah. Is this...
Speaker 2 coincide with his mom's past?
Speaker 1
That's what's weird about it to me. Could be.
That's what's weird about it. It seems really.
It was announced literally, I think, maybe a day after she passed. Oh, wow.
That's weird. Wow.
Speaker 1
I don't think that's weird. Not weird at all.
It kind of flows together. That makes sense.
The estate is in probate. So now we're going to see what we can get.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 The kids don't want it. I was about to say, I'm not picking.
Speaker 1 or knowing what his children have.
Speaker 1 His kids might not have much.
Speaker 1 Nah, well, don't do that. You can have much and still want $100 million.
Speaker 1
Facts. True.
No, I'm just saying, but if you got something, then you might not immediately put it up for sale the very next day.
Speaker 1 You will evaluate your options and, you know what I'm saying, assess what your financial situation is. You're not going to just throw it up for sale the next day.
Speaker 1
Let's take this off, Biggie. Yeah, when you need to.
You don't know about that. Let's keep it a buck.
When y'all die, y'all kids is getting rid of y'all. A lot of times
Speaker 1
right away. That's why you put things in place to prevent that.
That's not true, bro. That's not true.
It's all contingent upon where you are financially.
Speaker 1
My kids selling his shit out of me in the condo. Oh.
He ain't keeping shit.
Speaker 1 Not if they got money up.
Speaker 1 Especially Trey.
Speaker 1 That nigga ain't beat for money.
Speaker 1 I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1
That's where we differ. I don't know if it's a beat for money thing.
But that's what y'all saying. Y'all like, yo, immediately we're going to throw the.
Speaker 1 I think Trey, I've known him since he was a kid. Trey don't really be phased by materialistic shit like that.
Speaker 1 I don't think it's necessarily a money play. When my grandma died and she gave me whatever she gave me in Campbell's soup, it made sense and it was a good investment.
Speaker 1 Get this shit the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 If you don't give me my seven grand, whatever the fuck it was worth. When was this?
Speaker 1 My grandma died, I want to say 2011. What was your financial 2010?
Speaker 1 Today you don't sell it.
Speaker 1 Today now.
Speaker 1
That's my point. Today now.
Today you don't sell it. Today you keep the soup.
I add on to that. Yeah.
Today you get some more alphabets in the soup. I add on to that, Campbell.
Speaker 1
Add a little more noodles. That's what I'm saying.
I don't know if they're doing good today.
Speaker 1 But they do have a point issue.
Speaker 1
You hear the stories about when a parent passes away, our children sell off their assets. True.
It's kissed and doing it.
Speaker 1 This is why a lot of people put things in place where they can't sell it.
Speaker 1
My father put in place some shit like, yo, nah, you and your brother. No skits.
No, not at all. You can't sell this.
It needs to go down.
Speaker 1 I didn't even know that was possible, but at the time, I didn't know it was possible.
Speaker 1 Have you had an evaluation done on your IPs?
Speaker 1 Are you trying to be funny? No, that's a real conversation. No.
Speaker 1 You should. Yeah.
Speaker 1 How much is shit worth?
Speaker 1 I said it last week. It's all right, though.
Speaker 1 I was in the ballpark. What is IP?
Speaker 1 Intellectual property. What do you mean?
Speaker 1 What do you mean, what is it? Look, let's engage in this shit. This is the only shit you ever came up with.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1 I haven't had it evaluated. No.
Speaker 1 I didn't think that you would because we don't behave that way when
Speaker 1 as the living.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1
I'm learning now. You should.
You should.
Speaker 1 It's like
Speaker 1 think of the artists that are selling the catalog. Like that.
Speaker 1
Right? Like, it has to be evaluated. Let me see what my catalog is worth.
Just so I can know.
Speaker 1 What do we earn over the next
Speaker 1 year? Over the next
Speaker 1 10, 20 years,
Speaker 1 when it'll be at its peak value.
Speaker 1 See, I'm mad at that because
Speaker 1 I think I'm not, because it's not my wheelhouse, I think you could borrow against that catalog as opposed to selling it. And I'm always a fan of that.
Speaker 1 I'm always opposed,
Speaker 1 I'm always a fan of keeping the asset, borrowing against the asset, generating more wealth with the borrowed money and giving it back.
Speaker 1 So now I just have way more assets as opposed to selling the asset. Like if you could sell it for $125, I could borrow $50 against it, take the $50 and make it work.
Speaker 1 I still got the catalog and more shit. And you can pay back the catalog.
Speaker 1
I'm always a fan of that. Yeah, that's a level of financial sophistication.
Oh, you just remember you. And a tax on every location.
Right. And a desire to grow financially.
Speaker 1 A lot of these wealthy kids, like, they just want to spend.
Speaker 1 They just want to spend the rest of their life spending money.
Speaker 1
You got to think about it after though. Yeah.
You had your IPs evaluated, right?
Speaker 1
Yeah, nigga. It ain't a hard question.
Yes.
Speaker 1 That's a slow-ass answer, right?
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1
I just think it's dope. You got to do that for the state planner.
No, yeah, I understand. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I'm learning. Do you got wills and insurance and stuff like that? And everybody's insurance.
Speaker 1 No, I have insurance. Again, I want to urge everybody to get into their estate planning, too.
Speaker 1
Everybody, yeah. Estate planning.
What's the shit my dad be preaching? Your PSA number for the cancer shit. What else? What Mel be preaching? Health checks.
Listen, what else?
Speaker 1 The audience up here that listens to this is too smart for me.
Speaker 1
And I say that to say to go back around because when I say I'm learning in real time, they have a problem with that. Oh, nigga, you're old.
I think that that's one of the great things.
Speaker 1 I think that's a major
Speaker 1 hello.
Speaker 1
I'm so comfortable in my skin. Oh, geez, man.
Hold on. I'm comfortable in my skin to know that a lot of times in my life, I just wasn't into certain things.
Speaker 2 No, but no, sometimes.
Speaker 1 Coming up here, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 Sometimes your circle exposes you to things that you would have never been to.
Speaker 1 My mind was only, I'm not trying to make it by myself down like that neither. My mind was only.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit, you learned it. I got to get to the,
Speaker 1
fuck that. Now I'll stay on it.
Stop.
Speaker 1
I got to get to the bag. I came from nothing.
I was poor, and I don't want to be poor again.
Speaker 1
So if I can get 15,000 from doing this, if I get 9,000 from doing a minute, let me see how much I can get in the time. And then, you know, your lifestyle, you start spending more.
So
Speaker 1 coming up here is just learning different things about how to navigate through the world of media. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 And people don't understand that. Like when you, when you, when you, it's, that's why I understand the story of sometimes when it says like
Speaker 1 It's predatory sometimes to give somebody out the hood a big contract. The same thing, like if you don't have the information, it's not predatory, but it's crazy if you're setting them up for
Speaker 1 If I started YouTube, look at my account, and within that year, I had nothing. I'm living in my mom's basement, nothing.
Speaker 1
And then now, nigga, at the end of the year, I have 70,000. And it's like, okay, there's something here.
So now you're seeing how you could double it without the knowledge or the education.
Speaker 1
So then you seclude yourself from the rest of the world. I don't know about the podcasts and financial shit.
I don't know about that. I just started with.
Speaker 1 I'm a man named in Beat InvestFest every year, the billionaire black dude, Robert Smith. Robert Smith.
Speaker 1
Robert Smith. I seen a clip with him yesterday.
He was like, Don't y'all know the word capital, the root word capital is Latin and it means information. I was like, oh, shitty cooking now.
Speaker 1
I think that we frown upon people learning in real time. No, he was going crazy.
And you know what? And they demonize it. I think we frown upon people learning in real time or teaching in real time.
Speaker 1 I think everybody wants to come off as this knowledgeable person.
Speaker 1
I think it's whack. I think that the vulnerability is a sign of vulnerability.
It's not a vulnerability, bro. Well, to me, but I'm telling you, it's not a vulnerability.
Speaker 1 For you not to know something openly avoided.
Speaker 1 How many people say it? But you're being vulnerable to say it in public.
Speaker 1 How many people say it publicly? They don't want to know everything. But I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1
When y'all be talking, I write my notes. I go home like, oh, shit.
I saw Google now. I'm not going to be a little bit more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 I love to hear them niggas talk. Like, again, certain people, Dame, 50,
Speaker 1 Jay, even Irv, rest in peace. A lot of times when the niggas talk, they'll be saying some shit and you'll be like.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Like Flipson,
Speaker 1
Robert Smith, fucking Don Peoples. Them niggas be talking that shit.
You'll be like, oh, okay. Yeah.
You know what you're supposed to know.
Speaker 1
What does that mean? I disagree. Yeah, I totally disagree with that.
Yeah. I totally disagree.
Speaker 1 What does that mean? His mind is so crazy.
Speaker 1 It means that the world is designed and there's levels in it.
Speaker 1 Right? So we look at
Speaker 1 the NYCHA niggas, the niggas that's in the NYCHA apartment housing in fucking in New York. Like there's certain sectors of the world that they're not going to allow you to have
Speaker 1
access to. And as you progress and as you get the tools to level up, there will always be levels above you.
that you have no knowledge on at all.
Speaker 1 You know what you're supposed to know for where you are in that moment of time, for what you make, for all of our past, right?
Speaker 1 Like sometimes in the morning, I stand on my balcony and I'll stare over at billionaire's row
Speaker 1 and just be like
Speaker 1 how
Speaker 1 like you don't ask yourself how
Speaker 1 not really the how right but
Speaker 1 it's not for me right now right whatever whatever that is for that point of view even though it's not far from here right like i've said before where where where i live I could step on the balcony and see Spanish Harlem.
Speaker 1 From right here, we can see Spanish Harlem. We're probably across from Harlem, right? But the people over there, as close as it is in proximity,
Speaker 1 it's a different POV.
Speaker 2 But Billionaires Row is a lot of generational wealth. Like, that's pretty much all it is.
Speaker 1
I don't assume that. I don't assume that neither.
I don't assume that. Not today.
Not today.
Speaker 1 There's people out there. There's too much tech money today, and a lot of them didn't come for money.
Speaker 2 But the majority,
Speaker 2 I would say say that the majority of the population of Billionaires Row is
Speaker 2 not new money. It is generational wealth.
Speaker 1
Sorry, go ahead. Sorry.
I'm sorry. So when people categorize,
Speaker 1 they call this right here
Speaker 1
the Gold Coast, right? So they say all this is new money. They refer to all of us as new money.
Like, this is new money. And
Speaker 1 the Edgewater, Fort Lee, Weehawken area, we've been here for 20 20 years.
Speaker 1 15 minutes away from here, niggas didn't know this shit existed. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Literally 15 minutes away from here, people did not know that this shit existed. This used to be my date spot.
And people that live 10, 15 minutes from here didn't know it existed.
Speaker 1 Rest in peace to the multiplex, nigga.
Speaker 1 What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 I think that when Joe, see,
Speaker 1 I disagree with Joe when he be like, yo, you need, because I think if you don't put information in your brain, you become complacent and you'll never scale up.
Speaker 1 Do you think that it's designed for us to be comfortable in whatever situation that we're in? A thousand percent. Yes.
Speaker 1 Because it's like you hear the rare story, it's a rarity for someone to say, that's not really rare, but I want to go out and find more information, so I'm going to take the steps by spending my last to find it.
Speaker 1 If I have to lose this apartment or lose my apartment, and I've seen somebody in NYCHA, I want to go out there and find the information.
Speaker 1 If I have to struggle to find it so I can go to the next level, but a lot of people don't want to take that chance. I don't think it's designed like that.
Speaker 1 I think complacent and comfortability is just a human. But why wouldn't you think it's designed like that? If you're staying in the project building, rent is cheap, you're able to get, you get,
Speaker 1 no disrespect to anyone, you're able to get food stamps, and then the money that you make from work on the side, you pocket it and could fund your lifestyle that you're trying to show the world.
Speaker 1
That's comfortability. I don't have to do that much.
I can stay in here. I'm not willing to learn anything.
There's a process on how I'm achieving it and I'm getting it. You understand what I mean?
Speaker 1
Yeah, I do. I think that growth is uncomfortable.
I think people only grow when there's uncomfortability. That's one.
So
Speaker 1 were things designed to keep us in a certain space? Yes. But I don't think that those designs
Speaker 1
today, a library card is free. Because you like people give they last.
So information is around you free. We got the internet.
We look at bitches all day on the gram.
Speaker 1 We look at our, what you call it page?
Speaker 1 Yeah, all at the for you page and all of that shit is based on what you spend your time watching. If you start watching financial shit, it's going to keep feeding you financial shit.
Speaker 1
That shit is free. A lot of times escaping these traps is free.
So I don't think that maybe it was designed in yesteryear to trap us, yes. But today, I just think motherfuckers become.
Speaker 2 But the trap is inside your mind.
Speaker 2 Like you have to have the where, you have to have to have the wherewithal to seek that information and also to try to seek different relationships like if you're the smartest one in your circle of five that you need a new fucking circle so me and Joe stand me Joe and Corey stand on total opposites.
Speaker 1
This is one of our biggest fights. We stand on total opposites.
I believe that they believe that people got their foot on your neck. I totally am against that theory, right?
Speaker 1
I believe that if you want to grow and if you want to succeed, you can. I don't believe that nobody can stop you from becoming Robert Smith.
I hate when you do that. I do.
Speaker 1 I hate when you do that, though.
Speaker 1
I'm on both sides. I'm on the gate the other.
Yeah, but I'm on both sides. Yeah, but
Speaker 1 are you saying that they're stopping you from doing something? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, but that's you misinterpreting what we be saying.
Speaker 1 We don't be saying people are stopping us from doing something.
Speaker 1 You never know.
Speaker 1 They just put certain things in place to protect you from being a person. I'm aware
Speaker 1 of all of the obstacles that are in place
Speaker 1
for me versus someone else. They don't say it's impossible.
I'm never preaching that message. What if somebody put an obstacle in front of you and this is your dream, right?
Speaker 1 If we can talk about from the media game, what if it's like you have you have all the qualifications, the people are interested in you, the person's interested in you to do something, and then somebody who was higher or in the same field that you're in put an obstacle in front of you to prevent you from getting that.
Speaker 1
They just throw a monkey wrench. What's my action? No, not action.
Your course of action is to either go somewhere else or find another way through it.
Speaker 1
But what if the obstacle is so, there's a lot of times you hear people in the media game, it's called blackballing and gatekeeping. That is real.
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1
That is a real thing. They can stop.
Like, you're right there. You can have the conversation.
Speaker 1
And this is why they say from a kid, don't share all your information until the deal is signed or don't, or whatever that slogan is. But people put up roadblocks-ish.
And then now, what do you do?
Speaker 1 Do you change your course of action? Do you go into a new field? I got two names: Jay-Z and 50 Cent.
Speaker 1
50 Cent got blackballed. Okay.
Niggas, the niggas that was blackballing him admitted numerous times, yes, I was blackballing that nigga. Yes.
Purposefully.
Speaker 1 50 Cent is worth a couple hundred million dollars. Yes, so either you're going to circumvent the blackball, you're going to keep trying, you're going to go through it, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1
But I believe if you got persistence, you can get a bunch of people. But 50 Cent was blackballed.
No disrespect. No, shout out to 50 Cent was blackballed not by someone in that office.
Not by
Speaker 1
Irv was in those offices. Yeah, Irv told me that direct.
Yeah, Irv worked in those offices and had their ear. Ja Rule was as hot as fish 3%.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 50 is blackballed in one little corner in one sector.
Speaker 1 Oh, I see see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 The foot on neck theory that we're talking about speaks to systemically abroad,
Speaker 1
not just one aspect of something. Cool.
But at that particular point in time, that was his world.
Speaker 1
That was the only world that he knew that he could get out of the world. He wasn't going to go make TV shows or something.
Yeah, he wasn't going to go write a book.
Speaker 1 Like in 2001, 2002, 2003, this is his world.
Speaker 1 You understand what I'm saying? Like, this is the world that I know that could get me out of the jungle of Queens that I could go to put some food on the table for my family.
Speaker 1 And that's back to my point.
Speaker 1 Because that was his world and he was a megastar in his world, he gained an access and was privy to things and people and info and resources and networks that other people are not. Post-black ball.
Speaker 1
Because he's a genius. Post-black ball.
He took that.
Speaker 1
That wasn't pre-black ball. He gained that access after he fought through the book.
You talk about mixtape 50 before Get Rich comes out. He starts.
Speaker 1
That little music black ball is a dot on the piece of paper. Now.
But he still had to fight. It wasn't a dot to me.
Speaker 1 It wasn't a dot then, Joe. That shit was a major circle.
Speaker 1
He was fighting his ass off to get through it. If that's the only world you can see.
True.
Speaker 1
I think that he is greater than that and saw more than that. If that's the only world you can see, then yes, that black ball is insurmountable.
But he still had to.
Speaker 1
get through that black ball because he made it in that world. The world where they tried to blackball him in.
He didn't go somewhere else. You got the clue to get to the the next clue.
Speaker 1
We're going to do the escape room. Some of them clues, you'll get the one early.
You can't do that until you figured out the other clues that line up to that clue.
Speaker 1 We know the story.
Speaker 1
The 50-cent story. And was listening to the mixtape on the airplane.
It just landed in his lap, whatever the case may be from what I heard. I might be wrong.
Speaker 1 But dog, again, that's just me keep making mixtapes. If I say, yo, these niggas is blackballing me, I'm going to quit.
Speaker 1
I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing and doing what I'm doing and doing what I'm doing. I'm going to be resilient.
I'm going to be persistent. I'm going to to not take no for an answer.
Speaker 1 See, I think that's where.
Speaker 1 Go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 1 I'm so sorry. No, go ahead, bro.
Speaker 1
You got blackballed from the industry, but then you captured the air of the streets. So? Right.
So when you capture the air of the streets, the noise from the public,
Speaker 1
it overrides it. And on top of that, not include of getting shot nine times, surviving.
Like, it's so many things that happen in that situation that played in his favor.
Speaker 1 All are based on persistence and resilience. But that's what makes me the systemic stuff so important to acknowledge because part of it is there's roadblocks.
Speaker 1 And then part of it is figuring out how to get around those roadblocks.
Speaker 1 But part of it is if you've been coming, if you come up in a system where you're not even given permission to think about those alternatives as real, that's what makes it difficult.
Speaker 1 Just use myself.
Speaker 1 I'll use myself as an example.
Speaker 1 I'll use myself as an example.
Speaker 1 Even at this stage in my career or earlier in my career, it was like, get a TV show, get a TV show, host a TV show, host a TV show.
Speaker 1 And it wasn't until I got lucky and got to a better agency, W and me, that they were like, why the fuck do you keep trying to get hired as our TV host? Why don't you make a show?
Speaker 1 Like, why don't you create a show? But that wasn't something that I even knew was a possibility. So, but, but in that case, it wouldn't have been a lack of persistence.
Speaker 1
It wasn't like I was afraid to get a show or didn't, I didn't know that that was a thing. I didn't know it was a thing you could do.
But other people are taught from day one, go make your own shit.
Speaker 1 True. You know what I mean? And then I meet people like Joe and stuff, and it's like, oh, wait, why the fuck do you need a TV net? Fuck TV, right?
Speaker 1 But there are people who are miles ahead of this who I don't get to meet because I don't have access to that information.
Speaker 1 I think that's life.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think it's designed. It's life for everybody.
Speaker 1 It's organized that way so that some people do know that stuff and other people don't. Mark, would you say when you got black, because you was black balled from television? Still am.
Speaker 1 Would you say when you got black boy
Speaker 1 from television that you had no other choice but to
Speaker 1 pursue other options?
Speaker 1
I already had four or five other things going. I still sold books.
I still spoke on the street.
Speaker 1 But I still can't get on TV.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 There's a war in the Middle East, and I'm one of the leading experts on this topic, and I can't get on TV about it.
Speaker 2
This is a complete sidebar. I'm sorry.
But I really actually wanted to, like, when we were talking about Oscars, you saw what the documentary was.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 2 That won. So it was a Palestinian and an Israeli
Speaker 2 director who kind of came together and they're winning the Oscar for this documentary.
Speaker 1
And you know why you all haven't seen it? Because it's not distributed anywhere. It's not on Apple TV.
It's not on Amazon. It's not on Netflix.
With all due respect, that's important.
Speaker 1 I don't want to take away from where Mark was
Speaker 1
going to be. He was going somewhere.
Okay, but put a pin in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah, put a pin in that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but I had other ways to go because I was already far enough along. But if that had happened,
Speaker 1
if that was my entry point into this business, if that had happened in 2005, I wouldn't be doing anything. Y'all wouldn't know me.
You might not have come to me. You might know.
Speaker 1 I'd be teaching public school, which is a great thing. That depends on the person, though, bro, because sometimes people get that roadblock in front of them and say, yo, I'm determined.
Speaker 1
I'm going to make this regardless. All right, cool.
Y'all not letting me get in over here. I'm going to make y'all want me in over here.
This is the only thing I say in response. Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1 I just don't want.
Speaker 1 I think the danger of that approach is just that it means that anybody who doesn't get where 50 gets or anybody who doesn't get to this other place, we see it as a lack of determination or a failure to persist.
Speaker 1
And that's my only problem with that. And we don't look to the systems that makes that impossible for most people.
50 Cent is a genius.
Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I don't look at every blind southern Jim Crow Negro Negro and be like, why don't you beat Ray Charles? Right?
Speaker 1 Like, even if you're decent at the piano, like, you have to be so extraordinary to get past some of this stuff.
Speaker 1 And I don't look at everybody who didn't, like, why the fuck can we just do it Ray Charles?
Speaker 2
It's almost like the idea that if you don't reach the pinnacle of success as a black person, then you've failed. Right.
Like, that's all we have. It's either or.
And it's like, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 Because you have to be such a giant
Speaker 2 to clear it.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 Perseverance comes with, like, no, and it's going to sound crazy. You end up
Speaker 1 draining yourself out in the long run, right?
Speaker 1 So while we're talking about this and it's good to be, you know, to go out and get it, because I agree with Ish, no one can stop anything, I'm going to go get it.
Speaker 1 But when you sit down with yourself and you have to analyze that,
Speaker 1
it's causing a wear and tear on you mentally and physically. Emotionally.
Absolutely. Emotionally.
Now you're trying to question things. Why is it like that? What did I do wrong? What can I do better?
Speaker 1
So, yeah, it's good to persevere, but sometimes you have to take a chance. And that's it.
I'll leave it at that for
Speaker 1
Oh, don't end it when I'm about to pull up a song, The Clown. Nah, you can't do that.
I'm about to say it. I said, Y'all kept going being motivational.
I was going to pull up a song.
Speaker 1
You can't do that. That was fire.
That was fine. I appreciate that.
That was absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 Absolutely fire.
Speaker 1 You cold? You all right?
Speaker 2 Yes, I'm cold.
Speaker 1 The air in here, they be doing some weird shit where they put on.
Speaker 2 It was at 68
Speaker 2 five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 Your blood starts flowing slower when you get old, right?
Speaker 1 I don't know. motherfucker.
Speaker 2 You tell me you're older than me.
Speaker 2 You need to keep that elevated? I do.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 2 Somebody give him a fucking footstool.
Speaker 1
I'm not even playing with Mel like that no more. No, I don't play with him.
I'm not playing with Mel like that no more. I don't know.
Speaker 1
And you get a salute. You get a salute from me.
Thank you. Like
Speaker 1
that, what the dedication and shit that you put into your health and your body, I ain't joking. No, that shit is different.
I ain't gonna joke with you. But look, you know, Corey.
Speaker 1 You do it for different reasons. No, you know Corey be on his bullshit.
Speaker 1 Muscles? Yeah. The big ones out there.
Speaker 1
The cardio is different. The cardio is different.
Yo, go ahead over there, Mr. Squat.
Go ahead over there, nigga. I was trying to post Corey up and feel some body.
Speaker 1 That nigga, that nigga wouldn't let me feel it, pause.
Speaker 1
That nigga kept backing up, trying to pull a chair from under me. Get over here, nigga.
You know, I need to feel some body. Get your little athletic ass over here.
Yo, you're a fool. Look at this.
Speaker 1 Wait, what is that? Ice looks disgusting.
Speaker 1 I need to feel some body on the post.
Speaker 1
You need body body on the post. On the post.
Oh, man. I'm going to know where I'm going if I don't feel your body.
Speaker 1
That's why Imani was trying to kill you. Imani tried to injure me for good.
I don't know what I did to him. I thought that was.
Speaker 1 I thought that was one of my better mans, but
Speaker 1
ego. He just knows that you're an aggressive basketball player, so he's trying to meet your face.
Because, yo, you really. Yo, Imani called the offensive foul on screen.
Speaker 1
Once. Off-ball.
And I rode with him, too. I was like, yup.
Yo.
Speaker 1
Off the front. He was fronting me.
He was front. He was fronting me.
They threw it over the top. I caught it.
Speaker 1
He caught it off. He was about on the front.
Yo, I never seen such a bitch. In pickup basketball.
What a bitch. In pickup ball.
Yeah, my man got the tattoo of the mic off. Of his name? Yeah.
Speaker 1 He got his whole mic.
Speaker 1 He got a whole...
Speaker 1 Those type of microphone. What mic was that again?
Speaker 1
Amani played like a Puerto Rican. The Puerto Ricans, they got all the energy and want to come out and run around and hit you and fucking do all that.
Amani was wilding, bro.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you're not invited next time. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1
Yeah, he did good though. Spanish niggas use it.
Spanish niggas do burpees all day. And then my guy D.
Didd came over to me in the second game, whispered to me, said, Yo, we need you. Don't stick him.
Speaker 1
He's just running around. Save your energy.
I said, oh,
Speaker 1
that's a good idea. I took Corey.
Corey wasn't doing shit. That's why I got to get the Corey in the first game.
Speaker 1
Mark sticks Corey the first game so they could double. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And I'm like, Corey, cut to the basket. I was like, Corey's like, I ain't going nowhere.
No, right.
Speaker 1
Corey right on the three-point line. Then, when I was thinking, then when I was sticking Parks, I was in a good mood because we both smokers.
It's like, all right.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and then Parks got hurt. It's like, oh, no.
Speaker 1 Put the young boy in there.
Speaker 1
22-year-old came in. 24.
24. Young boy with a J-like daughter.
6'3 from the Indian Reservation. Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, good hair. Fuck him.
Stocky nigga, fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 I was like, I'm just gonna keep fouling.
Speaker 1 No, no he was with ericks
Speaker 1 erickson man shout out i was watching him in the pregame he's making
Speaker 1 drills and
Speaker 1 i said oh you played chuco nigga erickson other man six seven jumple julian yeah julian yeah julian yeah i playboy ringers yeah yeah i play nii you next time we do this the people i invite to be subs are gonna be like people that play basketball yeah not us who had no business out there oh no no i don't think i think we gotta have non-athletic gray hairs you gotta be all the
Speaker 1
right you can make a thing out of that. No, we just got to do it like we told Buck.
Yo, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 And Buck was holding it back.
Speaker 1 He was holding back. He was holding back for sure.
Speaker 1
He shot a couple jumpers, but and them shits hit Nash. So we at point game.
I'm out there dying. Buck grabbed a rebound right under the rim.
Don't put it up. I said, Buck.
Speaker 1 Just in this fucking game.
Speaker 1
In this game, yo. Enough of that being modest shit.
Just put it in. Dog, point game took like 30 minutes.
It did. Point game took mad long.
Speaker 1 It probably was realistically only six minutes, but it felt like 30.
Speaker 1
That was a long ass time. It was 11-5 for like.
Oh, man. The things that they're going to say about us when this is popular.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God.
Speaker 1
They're going to kill us. It's going to be hilarious.
See, you know what? They're going to kill me. And Mark, probably the most.
Oh, please, me too. No, because I told you the most shit.
Speaker 1
You were scoring. I was pregnant.
You was. But you were scoring.
I was pregnant out there. You scored all the points.
Don't matter. No, it matters.
Look at me.
Speaker 1
I need to know how you did because you was talking a lot of shit. Actually, I wasn't talking a lot of shit, but I was responding to you.
You know the reason this is happening.
Speaker 1
No, nope, that's not what happened. But I'll let that go.
It started with me and Ish saying something, and he said, Y'all two can't play no ball. Let's go play ball.
That's how it started.
Speaker 1 Right, but you were talking a lot of shit about
Speaker 1 it.
Speaker 1 I just said I didn't start this shit.
Speaker 1 But it's fine.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I think that, Joe, you can make this a thing, yo.
Speaker 1 No, honestly, I wish I really wished it. I came out.
Speaker 1 I would have really been ready to go out there in two weeks. Yeah, I mean, I would play against him.
Speaker 1
I'm playing a good thing. I'm ready.
I just need to warn you. The summer breaks, what I did think about was bringing back the kickball tournaments.
Yes. Like me.
Speaker 1 Back in the day, during the summer, I used to wake up at like 8 and tweet a park.
Speaker 1
Yo, meet here at noon, kickball. And all the fans would come.
She was lit. That sounds like fun.
She was lit. Kickball is fun.
Speaker 1
Heard yourself playing that now, too. You don't have to be a kid.
Oh, you definitely don't have to be a kickball. You don't have to be Kobe Bryant in the kickball.
Speaker 1
Like, you could play at your physicality. My man was training for the marathon.
He tore his calf playing fucking. It was either baseball or kickball, softball.
One of them shits hit the base.
Speaker 1 But the kickball was only lit
Speaker 1 when the yamines showed up hey hey hey yo
Speaker 1 i'm on
Speaker 1 y'all ish them first kickball games
Speaker 1 that's not true that's not true you wasn't around for the first ones
Speaker 1 them first kickball games
Speaker 1 kickball is fun whether the yamines or the non-yamines show up actually my favorite kickball is one of when one of them fucking 6'4 fucking i forgot what he was niggas would show up and we would pick him on our team It's like I was looking for him every kickball match.
Speaker 1 Like, nigga, come outside.
Speaker 1 God beans. What I'm in, Brian Grant beaming niggas in the head with the
Speaker 1
shit. Real athletes.
That shit was fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Do you ever just sit home and think that your days like meeting women is over? Yes.
Speaker 1
Long gone. Every day? I just scroll Instagram.
That's it. I like looking at them, though.
That's some addiction to the bad.
Speaker 1
See, I don't even do that no more. I don't do that.
No, no, I just look at them. I'm done with Instagram.
They all liars. I don't care.
They all liar.
Speaker 1
I'm not trying to talk. I'm not getting that.
Yeah, I don't care. I'm just looking at you.
I think it means the picture is a lie. I don't care.
Speaker 1 I don't care.
Speaker 1
Hey, she's a liar in the club, too. Good point.
I'm a liar in the club.
Speaker 1 And I don't care as long as them hills don't, you know what I mean? Toes don't come over the hill. I'm good.
Speaker 1
That's my turn off. Damn, bitch, you bad with the little ass shoes on.
Get off my feet. I don't like that neither.
Speaker 1
This shit be sodden. I don't like that.
Fuck off my feet. Just fuck the whole picture, dumbass.
He's right. This nigga really will zoom in on feet.
On anything.
Speaker 1 Bad as hell.
Speaker 1
I do that too, though. I do the zoom in.
You a feet guy? Yeah, yeah. It's important.
What? It's important. I don't even know when they have feet.
Yo, you know what I was laughing at? I have a minute.
Speaker 1 With respect.
Speaker 1 With respect.
Speaker 1 I was telling my girl,
Speaker 1 I said, yo, man. Now I met Mark Wife.
Speaker 1 I'm going to ask that nigga to do Potwise. Like, she's a professor, man smart, man cool, mad funny, sense of humor, fucking, got along with everybody.
Speaker 1 I was like, yo, I don't know why we always make it seem like our girl at home is the ball and chain, even though
Speaker 1 they be cool.
Speaker 1
I never said she was, that's what y'all always say. Whatever we get around our niggas.
I'll say it without saying that. No, you say it.
But I'll say that shit. No, you said she.
Speaker 1
Yo, niggas, girls, it's cool. We talk like we got to get the fuck away from them.
We do.
Speaker 1 Why do we do that? That's part of that ego, just
Speaker 1
pride painting a picture thing. It's something that's there, yo.
Niggas definitely do it, though.
Speaker 1
Mark took a break to go kiss his wife. He said he had an eye injury.
Yeah, he did that. Mark ran to the side and got some sugar.
No, that nigga said. And it made him feel better.
Something in my eye.
Speaker 1 I went in there. I said, yeah, nigga, old age.
Speaker 1 I had a few fake injuries to get catched my breath. Don't say nothing.
Speaker 1 Yo, this couch look like heaven. No, nigga.
Speaker 1 I tried to guard Imani full court.
Speaker 1
Yeah, that nigga looked like a jumping beam. But y'all was playing full court.
No, no. I have to pick up.
Speaker 1
I'm saying, I picked it, like, we. No, no, no.
I picked him up. Mark got an ego.
Mark got an ego. And Mark is my.
Speaker 1 That's what started.
Speaker 1
I'm telling you. He caught himself the touchball.
picking Imani up 94 feet up there by the half court line.
Speaker 1 The very next play, I think, was I was done.
Speaker 1
That was all my energy for the rest of the play. He was finished.
I was done for the next five days. I was done, though.
I was hollering like, yo. That's all I had.
Speaker 1
Then you start thinking, like, shit, in my 20s, I could do this every possession. Now I can't do that shit.
I can do that once a day. It's over.
Speaker 1 I do have a bit of bad news to report.
Speaker 1 They are reporting that Raphael Sadiq's brother Dwayne Wiggins
Speaker 1 of Tony Tony
Speaker 1 Tony is receiving hospice.
Speaker 1
Y'all know Dwayne. Dwayne.
Yeah. Y'all know Dwayne.
None of them named was Tony. Right.
That was one of the funny things with the group. Right.
God. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1
This is the other age shit, man. We was young.
Our favorites got killed in gunfire and random shit. Now they die from like health shit.
Yeah. Bro, we.
Speaker 1 Oh, man.
Speaker 1 Damn.
Speaker 1
Send strength to them, to Rafael Sadiq and the rest of them. Yeah.
Boy. I was having bed last night, Chris Cross Apple Soft.
I'm like, I can't believe I'm going to die one day.
Speaker 1 I'm still not over the concept.
Speaker 1
I just don't want it to hurt. He's right.
Nah, you know what I'm saying? I just don't want it to hurt. You know what I'd be looking at? I say the same shit.
My daughter.
Speaker 1 When I be looking at my daughter, I'd be like, damn, it's got to live. Yeah,
Speaker 1 it's a point where I could possibly not be here.
Speaker 1 I was about to say that. I think the opposite of you.
Speaker 1
And you got young kids, yeah. I think I got it.
That shit fucking.
Speaker 1
The kids make you think you got to live or that you got to die. Live, live, live.
Especially what I saw, like with my uncle that passed. Interesting.
Speaker 1 When his daughter was 10 months old and he he dies. Yeah, why do you think that?
Speaker 1 Because that's what it means.
Speaker 1
Cycle of life too. It don't mean you got to live.
No. It means you got to die.
No, no, no. That's a constant reminder.
No,
Speaker 1 it means I have to live for it. Focus on your health.
Speaker 1
I got to let my daughters know what these niggas be doing. Unecessary stress.
If I shoot the club up tomorrow.
Speaker 1
and have a beautiful, beautiful child tomorrow at 44, probability says I may not see that child hit 35. Yeah, that's true.
I'm not stressing myself with. So now.
Speaker 1 Damn, I i won't see my child no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1 no i could be cool at 35 you want to be i know i think what you're saying is you want to be here for as long as you can with your kids no and you want to maximize that time that you are here with them that's what i just said but if you got look if i got 35 years out oh uh uh quality of life you're talking about yes yes yes yes if i got 35 years out of now for yeah yeah got it i understand what you're saying and and not not for nothing this only been three days it it resonated what has only been they can't the injury no the injury i'm saying the injury has only been three days so dog every morning we got like a routine So my girl wakes up earlier than me My girl goes downstairs take a shower
Speaker 1 let your girl wake up before you
Speaker 1 go to bed at like two three o'clock every day
Speaker 1 But anyway, right? So you go to bed at nine o'clock
Speaker 1
I'm doing paperwork at nine o'clock. Anyway, yo, listen, let me finish my story.
So my girl wakes up. She goes cooks lunch.
My job is to bring my daughter downstairs, start getting a dress.
Speaker 1 My foot is fucked up.
Speaker 1 So I couldn't, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't do that. So it was like, damn, small shit like that that you might take for granted now.
Speaker 1
I can't do it So now me getting injured puts more stress on my girl to have to do all of that shit for my daughter and I was like damn I apologize like 50 times. Yeah.
Yo, my bad.
Speaker 1 I'm sorry thinking I'm fucking Superman.
Speaker 1 I said I got some breakfast and bed off my injury
Speaker 1 So nah like small shit like that. Yo, you just like yo
Speaker 1
You got to kind of be here for your kid. 35? If I get 35, I've given you enough game.
Hold on, you. That's how I feel about my whole game.
Speaker 1 If my daughter gets to 35, both of them, I've given them enough game that I could possibly give them. Atlantic City trip is not worth no coochie.
Speaker 1
I don't know what that means. It's a joke.
You ain't never seen a meme? No. And it be like, yo, I'm taking my kids around the world.
I just see that.
Speaker 1 Your little dusty ass son can't take her to Atlantic City and get no coochie. You never seen a meme? I just shut up when you girl dads get to talking.
Speaker 1 I mean, sometimes
Speaker 1 when I lay down and I think, I'm like, damn, what that shit.
Speaker 1 No, because I never, No.
Speaker 1
No comment. I think.
We don't never hear that side of the girl that, nah, that's true. It ain't worth it, girl.
Don't go.
Speaker 1
I be thinking that one day I'm not going to be here. You'll hear the other side.
Yeah. It's because
Speaker 1 for all the bitches y'all slid,
Speaker 1 for all the lies that you've told,
Speaker 1 for all the tricks, the maneuvers,
Speaker 1 late night runs. You asked me how many of them dad was there for?
Speaker 1 Ooh.
Speaker 1
I said, you asked me how many of them dad was there for? No, I didn't ask you that at all. Okay.
I just say when you take it all into account.
Speaker 1 So you trying to say it's going to happen back to our children? Way hold up.
Speaker 1 For all of the tricks
Speaker 1 you've done. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 And at this present point in time and with the universe and the planets aligned, y'all doing great.
Speaker 1 Like, y'all don't think God is spinning at no time?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 1
Got it. Nope.
I don't think like you talk about it. You talking about the kids.
No, karma. Karma.
Yeah, we get the fuck out of here, nigga. Nobody, we're going to private.
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 So you think that
Speaker 1 our daughter's going to be at Harris.
Speaker 1 What the fuck? I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 He don't think that neither.
Speaker 1 He's going to laugh loud. Let him go laugh.
Speaker 1 Let him go.
Speaker 1
Laugh loud. Yeah, go play something.
That's right.
Speaker 1 She calls like a helpless song.
Speaker 1 with that.
Speaker 1 Yo, why would you think niggas and the future thugs?
Speaker 1 Why would you think niggas?
Speaker 1 Oh my God.
Speaker 1 Nobody wants their daughter to deal with a nigga like
Speaker 1 I wouldn't want my daughter to deal with a nigga like me.
Speaker 1 I try to prevent her from dealing with a nigga like me.
Speaker 2 That is a revelation.
Speaker 1 I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 She deserves better.
Speaker 1 Well, I'm a better father.
Speaker 2 Because, you know, we do go for men that remind us of our parents.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want that.
Speaker 1
His daughter. She don't see that side of him.
She don't need to see that. So I try to.
Speaker 2 Who knows what she's seen?
Speaker 1 She don't see that side of him. Who knows what she's seen?
Speaker 2 You'd be surprised the shit that kids see. Cool.
Speaker 1 You think you can't see? Cool, but I put the best face on for my my children.
Speaker 1
And I'm very upfront and I'm communicative. Yo, I was doing this shit at your age.
Yo, watch the boys that's trying to even ask you for anything. Watch them niggas because this is what I was doing.
Speaker 1
I'm very straight up with her. And I let her know it.
Because if you participate in that, first of all, it's going to make you look crazy. It's going to break my heart.
Two things.
Speaker 1 I try to do manipulative digits.
Speaker 1 You get the guilt. You have to.
Speaker 1
But I definitely tell my daughter. Yo, I was getting, nigga, I made a page on Mindspace called Pops on Blast, nigga.
That shit was all on. Like, the shit I was doing.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I was wilding. I don't want that shit, my daughter, to go through that.
Play your fucking music, nigga. Wait till you have your daughter.
I'm going to fuck you up.
Speaker 1
Wait till you have your daughter. You have twin girls, nigga.
That shit have twin Indian daughters, nigga.
Speaker 1 My papa told me. Not to fuck that guy.
Speaker 1 He still rules that I should have been.
Speaker 1 But I met that nigga in that car, and he's so drunk.
Speaker 1 He's gonna be 54 in the middle of the night. I grew up with all the love
Speaker 1 You can take him to Day Flip.
Speaker 1 You can take him to Day Flip. That was really good on the
Speaker 1
solid freestyle though. That was solid.
That's some solid freestyle right there.
Speaker 1 You sticking that about your nigga.
Speaker 1 And he's so total. What do the fuck you talking about?
Speaker 1 I don't know who the fuck he's talking about.
Speaker 1
Get the fuck out of here with that. He ain't talking about my daughters.
He is not talking about this. He's a total.
Speaker 1
Say whatever the fuck he want. Me, at least let the hook get to it.
You gotta stop.
Speaker 1
But now, for real, what y'all think this song's about? I don't know. I never heard it.
No, we don't care, bro. Please.
Speaker 1 What'd you say to him, Madonna? What you say to dad? I made up my mind.
Speaker 1
I'm keeping my baby. She keeping that shit.
She keeping her baby. Dead ass male.
She keeping that shit.
Speaker 1 You joining this nigga.
Speaker 2
Email me in the 80s music as soon as it plays. It's the white 80s music.
I can't help myself.
Speaker 1 I'm going to be the adult in the room for you. Katie, and say that we have created some tension in the room.
Speaker 1
Powell. How? Y'all seem bothered by this.
I don't give. I'm ignoring that shit.
They ain't paying me no money.
Speaker 1 He's looking irritated.
Speaker 1
I'm balling the button. He texts his daughter and shit.
He ain't paying me no money. I'm not paying that nigga no money.
Speaker 1
Okay, then we good. All right.
Yeah, we're great. I promise.
You look irritated. I am.
Speaker 1 Hey, listen.
Speaker 1
Because he'd be around my kids. He'd be around them.
They talking about the funny thing.
Speaker 1 That shit don't stop with girls. It don't.
Speaker 1 Family issues don't stop with girls?
Speaker 1
Clean it up. Yeah, no, I'm telling you.
Like, that shit don't matter. But you know what it is? A lot of times dudes be more hype about.
Like, no dude...
Speaker 1 That I know is that upset about their son getting in some wild shit the way they are.
Speaker 1
They pin up wild shit got levels. That's true.
That's true. Wild shit got levels.
But like, nobody's like, oh, my son's 15 eating pussy.
Speaker 1 Your son.
Speaker 1
No, no, I'm just saying. A lot of people don't talk about it.
I'm not saying they write it wrong. If your son 15, hunt, come home sucking dick, then what? I mean, it wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 1
Fathers do. You always make it gay.
We don't care.
Speaker 1 If he's gay, we don't care. You always try to make us trans.
Speaker 1 I'm homophobic.
Speaker 1 But nobody wants to think about their daughter being out there at 16, 17, 15, doing anything, nigga. So don't think about that.
Speaker 1 No, but when you fucking highlighting and play music and look at me in my eyes,
Speaker 1 I think it was the freestyle. Yeah, it was the pop freestyle.
Speaker 1 He's so true. Yeah, you want some joke.
Speaker 1 The shit that you do, you sell ass for this, for this, for this shit.
Speaker 1 For your joint, the shit you do on this camera, I'm going to get you.
Speaker 1 I think it was the sucking dick.
Speaker 1 Wow, with the feathers.
Speaker 1
I mean, it's entertaining, but in all reality, we know he don't feel this way in reality, but it's just no, he might. He might.
Also, I don't think so. I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 I know we're talking about Madonna telling her dad that
Speaker 1 she wants to keep the baby.
Speaker 1
It's being reported, and I say that loosely, Say Cheese is reporting Anthony Edwards. I believe Say Cheese.
Don't be wrong a lot. He's one of the ones I'd be believing.
Speaker 1 Anthony Edwards allegedly filed a motion claiming that he does not want visitation or custody of his four-month-old daughter with Aisha Howard.
Speaker 1 That's rough. Where does everybody stand?
Speaker 1 A lot of niggas feel that way. It just takes a special kind of person to write that shit on paper, especially when the whole world is going to see it.
Speaker 1 Because your kid is going to see that later, too, that you didn't want that.
Speaker 1 Just do old school and don't show up.
Speaker 1 Just do it like everybody else's old man did.
Speaker 1 I'll be there at 15.
Speaker 1 I think he just got some growing up to do.
Speaker 2 And he's going to change his mind later?
Speaker 1 That's dismissive. Okay.
Speaker 1 Now, I'm not saying it's not true, but
Speaker 1 it's dismissive of of the, let's pretend that we're talking about a man that's older than him that's that's
Speaker 1
vocalizing his non-parental rights. That's saying, I'm signing over all parental rights to you.
I told you I don't want nothing to do with it. I really don't want anything to do with the child or you.
Speaker 1 I'm signing over my rights.
Speaker 1 I think it's fucked up.
Speaker 1 I don't want to say that the person that feels that way has to grow up because it'd be mature men that feel like that.
Speaker 1 I don't think that's mature men that's saying that that's i don't care what age you are i think if you i mean listen we know how we ain't stupid we know how babies is made
Speaker 1 and you put yourself into that now you have to deal with that and if you choose to just walk away i think that's some immature coward that's my take nobody has to agree with that but i feel differently about parenting i i think it's bigger than you and and you made this child you don't just get to walk away your the moms ain't just she stuck she got it she can't just say never mind i'm cool yeah she could right now no the child Ain't the child here?
Speaker 1
Four months old? Four months old? I'm sorry. I'm thinking four months pregnant.
Forgive me. Yeah, no, four months.
Got you. Yeah.
I mean, she had a moment to make that choice. Right.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
She could still make that choice. Yeah.
Even with the child here, she can make that choice. Adoption foster.
Speaker 1 Absolute.
Speaker 1
That's y'all. Y'all can.
No, no, I agree with you that I think it's cowardly. I don't like the idea of abandoning your kids.
I think no matter what the situations, you got to be there.
Speaker 1
Once the kid is here, you just got to make that choice. But I agree with you that I don't think it's necessarily immaturity per se.
I think just some people are fucked up.
Speaker 1
Yeah, some people just feel that way. Yeah, and they just fucked up people.
You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 1 I don't know. Anybody else?
Speaker 2 My stance is the same as ICE. And last time we talked about this, this was my stance as well.
Speaker 1 Like
Speaker 2
we brought up the whole topic of her keeping it, knowing he has a track record. He has a track record of doing this.
So
Speaker 2 I don't know. I feel like there was many conversations that should have taken place before this even happens to avoid this shit.
Speaker 1
Or if she was just looking for a lick, you hit the lick. Cool.
You're going to get the money from it. That's all.
If that's all you wanted,
Speaker 1
it's a win-win. He don't want nothing to do with you or the child.
He just wants to be there financially. You might not just want this nigga.
You just want the money.
Speaker 1 I don't know you. Text me, though, if in month nine, he looked like me.
Speaker 1
Text me. Shoot me a text.
I might change my mind and pop up over here. If you got hot.
Speaker 1
I want you to sign off. Hey, hey, text me if that motherfucker starts playing a drama earlier than he's supposed to.
I want you to sign up paperwork.
Speaker 1 No, no, I can still come back and develop a relationship. Okay.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I can still come back.
Speaker 1 Let me know if he jumped up that criminal paper. If he jumping after Walker, if he jumping out the walker.
Speaker 1 Let me know if he's Picasso with the crayon.
Speaker 1 I am going to come around.
Speaker 1
If he's three feet at 18 months, I'll like. Yeah, man.
Yeah. I ain't gonna front.
I be thinking about who's up with the dads that wasn't there. Where LeBron dad at?
Speaker 1
He got to be the sick one. He's some mad as shit.
That nigga is sick somewhere. Because it don't take much to be a black.
If he had to show up to like one skate party. Shaq dad.
Speaker 1
Like some of y'all kids is going to grow up and dominate. Yo, this is about to sound fucked up.
Some of them might not make it to that if dad was there.
Speaker 1 Some of them. I'm just saying, some of them, you hear them talk, they use that shit as like fuel.
Speaker 1 So some of them niggas might not have became that if dad was there. Yeah, Shaq would have been just fine.
Speaker 1 If the son or the child that I didn't want turned into fucking Serena Williams, guess who come be at the U.S. Open?
Speaker 1 Yo, you got them tickets, but and I need a plus one.
Speaker 1 Yo, two tickets. And I got to make up a lie for what I've been doing for 25 years.
Speaker 1 I got to, whoa, busy, busy. Know what they do?
Speaker 1
I got to make something up bad. That's when they blame moms.
They blame the moms.
Speaker 1
Since I do be the mom. Since I do be the mom.
They do be the mom, but if you're trying to reinsert yourself into the kid's life, you can't blame it on mom. The kid loves mom.
Speaker 1
You got to own it yourself. Yeah, I was in jail.
Damn, traffic. Good shit.
Speaker 1 The whole thing.
Speaker 1 I've been trying to drive to you. 13 years.
Speaker 1 License is fucked up, man. I just got right.
Speaker 1
And LeBron looked just like his pops, too. I just go with it.
Nigga, if LeBron is my bad. He looks just like his father, yo.
I'm back, buddy. Anthony McClellan.
I'm back. And he played basketball too.
Speaker 1
Nigga, pops. Look, I'll change my name to James.
I'm just going to. I'd be Anthony James.
Speaker 1 I'm talking about LeBron. Shit, if it was Byron Russell, shit, I'd have been back.
Speaker 1
Right. Don't take much.
It wouldn't take much for me to come back. That nigga whole father name on LeBron.
Muffle, Muffa.
Speaker 1 I can't believe
Speaker 1
Zoe's husband. Fuck it.
He's a fucker. What a muddy.
Let me see. What else? What else? What else? You think that's muddish? I think that's muddish.
Why would you do that?
Speaker 1 I just don't understand why somebody would do that.
Speaker 2 He hyphenated his name.
Speaker 1
No, hyphenated, I can understand. Did he hyphen it? Did you just take her name? No, he hyphenated it.
Oh, hyphenated, I respect. I would probably hyphenate it.
Oh, you respect it? Still a pussy.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't do it, but I respect it. He's still a pussy.
I don't see that. What's wrong with hyphenating?
Speaker 1 Be a man.
Speaker 2 Well, the hyphen part, his name is Before. So it ends in.
Speaker 1
Seldana? Yeah. I could live with that too.
Like, I think hyphenating,
Speaker 1
my personal belief is just keep your name. I don't own you.
You know what I mean? My wife has her name. I got my name.
I'm good with that.
Speaker 1
But I know people who say as a family, we want to be able to walk in. And for women, a lot of times.
So your wife didn't take your name. No, I don't want it.
I didn't want her to.
Speaker 1
Neither of us wanted to. Same with mine.
Yeah, same, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1
And also, you know, and then there's the Latin American thing where, you know, you have different names and naming is different, you know. But.
No, I don't know. Yeah, it's like, so
Speaker 1 sometimes, like, a lot of times
Speaker 1 kids will take like both names of the parents, you know what I mean? And then, and then as you go down the line, then one name gets knocked off and the next name comes on. So
Speaker 1
that's a way of acknowledging both parents. So it's not this thing where just like the dad's name takes over everybody's identity.
So then what do you do?
Speaker 1 What's your son's like what you do with your male dominance then? Mal, how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 I save it for financial abuse.
Speaker 1 Except for after the game the other day. Your son got your last name off?
Speaker 1
He hyphenated. He got both of them.
He has both of our names. And my daughters have the same thing.
We all hyphenated with them.
Speaker 1
And I'm good with that. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need that.
But I know people who say, like, as a family unit, we all want to have the same last name. Yeah.
And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 You know, Hove hyphenated, right?
Speaker 1
I thought that. I was going to bring that up.
I wasn't sure if that's. That's not Hove.
That's not a nice Hove.
Speaker 1 Wait, so he's Carter Knowles?
Speaker 1 Knowles, Carter. Both of them.
Speaker 1 I think that's dope. Why is your fucking mouth talking about hoes like that? Is he crazy?
Speaker 1 Don't be disrespectful. Let me see this shit.
Speaker 1 You think that Jay-Z is
Speaker 1
Sean Carter knows? Sean Knowles. Sean Knowles.
Sean Knowles Carter. Carter.
Speaker 1
If so, shout out to him. I think that's dope.
Well, it's.
Speaker 1 I think hyphen is. Mel, would you want your husband to hyphenate? Y'all trying to trick me into saying something.
Speaker 1 You see me over here?
Speaker 1
Hands folded. What is this? He's trying to trick us.
I'm about to start twiddling my thumbs. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 I want to hear your stance. Mel, let them get their 1v1.
Speaker 2
Your question, I would definitely keep my name because my name is my name. It's my stage name.
It's my real name.
Speaker 1 So I would keep no, it could still be your stage name. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah. No, his last name is.
Jay-Z's last name is the hyphenated. Okay.
Speaker 2 I'm cool with the hyphenation, but my name would be on the end of the hyphenate. And Zoe Saldana's husband doesn't believe in...
Speaker 1
You said your name would be on the end of the hyphenation. Yes.
If you got married. Yes.
Oh, you don't want to get married.
Speaker 2
Hold on. Hold that thought.
Because Zoe Seldana's husband does not believe in typical gender wars. He stays home and raises their kids because of her, the success of her career.
Speaker 2 This is just the role that he has.
Speaker 1
So the more successful one determines how this last name thing is going? Not necessarily. For me, it's about just what flows better.
You know what I mean? And things like that.
Speaker 1 Like if your name is
Speaker 1 Shyshevsky, another one is Smith. Like, Shyszewski Smith might just float better.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I would think about it. To me, it's not who got more money or who's more dominant.
It's just what we're going to float.
Speaker 1
I think my girl did mention something about trying to preserve her dad's legacy. And then I had to have an uncomfortable talk.
Yeah, I'm daddy.
Speaker 1
I mean, that is like literally Patriot. Bob's up in heaven.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 With all due respect, boy, you rebirthed a good one here. But But uh
Speaker 1 give me that legacy. Daddy got it.
Speaker 1
Daddy got it now. Hey, yes.
Daddy got it from here. I got it from here.
Daddy got it now.
Speaker 1 Mel Ford ain't gonna be on the end of nothing. That Ford is gonna be crashing on the highway sometimes.
Speaker 1 Ford.
Speaker 1 If you don't get that Ford shit out of here.
Speaker 1 Are you crazy? Let me see. Who's this, bro?
Speaker 1 And Mel, would you feel okay with it?
Speaker 1 I tried telling y'all. What? Zoe's the most successful.
Speaker 1
Sorry, the most successful female actor. She's up there with Julia Robertson.
She's big.
Speaker 1 She's an avatar. Avatar.
Speaker 2 She's the fucking action hero.
Speaker 1
She's in a relationship. Like, literally, Sigourney Weaver passed the fucking baton to her.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 She's big.
Speaker 1 Mel, you said what?
Speaker 1 Huh? She's also dominant in a relationship. So separate.
Speaker 1 Mel, so are you, okay, with dude taking your name, or would it be y'all? Y'all say separate?
Speaker 1 Like, is he Michael Smith?
Speaker 2 It would definitely be a conversation. It would definitely be a conversation because I feel like the type of man that I would end up wouldn't just, he ain't going to be in beta.
Speaker 2 He gonna want to have a conversation about this.
Speaker 1
Do you think it's possible to be an alpha man and take your name? You like alpha men? Nope. Yes.
You like alpha men. You can't walk.
You can't get up. You can't walk alpha.
Speaker 1
All right, at least now. The conversation is going to be over before you walk off.
If you say your thought, you can leave it. Just say your thought.
You say your thought. Yes, you do.
Come on, man.
Speaker 1
I don't have a thought. This is a broadcast.
Alpha, alpha, alpha, alpha. This is such a bullshit.
My nigga is such bullshit. Let's go issue.
Speaker 1
So you want these men to be traditional men when it's convenient. Traditional women took the last name of their husbands.
Talk about it, nigga. You are honoring your husband.
Massage.
Speaker 1 You're not honoring your father.
Speaker 2 Who says that, though?
Speaker 1 Me.
Speaker 1
And tradition. Yeah.
So traditional speakers. And tradition.
Me too, nigga.
Speaker 1 But patriarchy is traditional.
Speaker 1 Keep speaking. Let him finish.
Speaker 1
Let him finish speaking. So now you're saying that the patriarchy don't exist when the lady, again, is the CEO of Xerox.
Look at his feet.
Speaker 1
When the lady is the CEO of Xerox, then the patriarchy is axis. You can't see it.
You can't put your feet up like that. Yo, look at me.
Speaker 1
You get what I'm saying? Like, come on, get the fuck out out of here, man. Like, y'all more men than be men, or y'all don't.
You got the Maoris on. The men don't, the manhood don't
Speaker 1 come and go with the ladies' convenience.
Speaker 1 But is it possible to think about saying I like tradition, but say some traditions just aren't good anymore? Yeah, when they're convenient for your specific choice.
Speaker 1
Why does everybody say pick and choose? You're supposed to pick and choose. I'm not just a grant.
But if you live your life like that, then that's fine. I'm totally with that.
Speaker 1 I am totally with homeboy sitting at home raising those kids, and I don't look at him like less of a man at all.
Speaker 1 if my wife is out here doing 20 million per film then nigga i'm gonna sit home how you like your eggs right
Speaker 1 i don't have a problem with that at all and that don't take away from my masculinity and i still run my household i've dated women that had way more money than me and i still was the man in that particular relationship
Speaker 1 what we do today in society is we we attach dominance to the to the finance yeah and and that's up so now when the man makes more money people shun oh yo he treating her like shit yo he treating her like she's subservient but then when the nigga makes less money, then he automatically becomes subservient, and that's accepted.
Speaker 1
So we can't have it both ways. It's bullshit.
Right. If it's based on morality and it's based on a stance, let's keep that stance across the board, regardless of who double standard money.
Speaker 1
Sko big-ish. I hear that.
I guess I from
Speaker 1 smoke mail. Smoke.
Speaker 1 Smoking on that mail pack.
Speaker 1 Smoke on that magic.
Speaker 1
Smoking eggs. Smoke on that male.
Smoking on that Ford pack.
Speaker 1 Smoking on that Ford pack.
Speaker 1 Unless you're talking about Harrison's Ford. No, that's this Ford.
Speaker 2 The reality of my particular lived experience is that I have bucked tradition. I have lived my life in a way that I have bucked tradition.
Speaker 2 So I think that I have the bandwidth to, yes, pick and choose what I feel like is acceptable to me in terms of what is considered tradition and what is fucking antiquated and rooted in fucking patriotism.
Speaker 1 Here's the thing that I think Ish is right about. I think that women, I can't speak for you personally,
Speaker 1 but but there are women who will say that they don't want tradition and traditional gender roles, but there are moments where they want what they call a benevolent patriarchy.
Speaker 1 Like, you still want the door of hell for you. Let's go.
Speaker 1
Let me finish. I'm not speaking for you or anything.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2
Hold on one second here. We're going to moment.
Is that just not manners or being chivalry?
Speaker 1 Hold on, wait, wait.
Speaker 2 What's the difference between, what is the difference? That's just manners.
Speaker 1
That's just fucking good manners. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Manners, why wouldn't manners also include you holding the door for me? I can.
Speaker 1 I can and I would. Right, Right, but it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 fuck down.
Speaker 1 If you and I would lie,
Speaker 2 but a lot of times, a lot of times, there's men who will not let you touch a fucking door.
Speaker 2 And that's them. That is on them.
Speaker 1
That is the role that they want to play. I don't disagree with you, but let's say hypothetically I wasn't married and you and I went on a date.
Let me not use me. Let's say you and gentlemen.
Speaker 1
Don't use me. Don't use gentlemen.
No, you. You and you.
We grown, man. Use you.
Okay, so hypothetically, you and I go on a date. I suspect that if I didn't open the doors for you.
You'll judge me.
Speaker 1 At the end of the day, you said, and I just let the door close. Or if I didn't pick up the check,
Speaker 1 right? That there would be a thing of, yo, what kind of dude?
Speaker 1 Water in the pan.
Speaker 1
Because there's an expectation of what I'm supposed to do. That's why y'all are hot, too.
So when I, no, I mean, we're just talking. So, but, but when I, so y'all clear out.
Speaker 1 So, so when I hear you say chivalry, even chivalry is an expectations of what manners look like that are gendered. Because chivalry is me opening the door for you.
Speaker 1 It's not you opening the door for me. Okay.
Speaker 1 So I think sometimes when we say we're traditional or we're non-traditional, to ish's point we are picking and choosing i'm okay with picking and choosing yes but i think we have to sometimes be more self-aware about how invested in some of those patriarchal traditions we are especially when they benefit us okay so let him respond let her respond
Speaker 1 i with marks let him respond
Speaker 1 let him respond no no no let us tell jokes and don't respond markets for the men that's my favorite oh yeah
Speaker 1 he don't play with me for the men all right go ahead let's sister mary clarence respond let's get it
Speaker 2 i think that it with the ex with the example of opening doors if somebody walks through a door and lets it fucking slam in your face it's fucking rude regardless of gender regardless of gender true that's number one number two i have found myself in southern states and i try i try to open the open door for myself and they will not let me because that's their custom that is just how they believe that is how they are raised and they say you northern girls are like that you always want to do shit on your fucking own and i'm like maybe that is in fact true because we're so fucking used to it So it is not It's not something that I would go back and report to my friends.
Speaker 2 Oh, this motherfucker didn't open the door for me because I wouldn't even be literally thinking about it.
Speaker 1 So first date, you have no expectation of him paying the bill. Honestly, honestly.
Speaker 2 If he has asked me to go out with him.
Speaker 1
Mel, come on, don't waste the time with lives. Mel's lying.
No, I'm not. Because it was a date.
Speaker 1
No, it's tricking her. Stop.
Stop. Let's stop.
Speaker 1 This is a date that Mel went on that she came up here and told us she didn't go on a second date because the man didn't do something that he was supposed to do
Speaker 1 additionally. What was it? I forgot.
Speaker 2
Exactly. Okay.
So anyways, anyways, your argument sucks.
Speaker 1 Remember, we remember, but let it finish, nigga.
Speaker 2 If you have asked me out on a date, if this is not just us getting together and this was not planned or whatever the case is, and we don't have anything romantic going on, then I'm pulling out my credit card at the end of the fucking date and I'm offering to pay fucking half.
Speaker 2 I do not walk around with the assumption that the man is going to pay just because I'm here. If you have asked me out on a date, yes, I absolutely believe you should pay for it.
Speaker 1 And if you're dating somebody, say you go on five dates, ten dates.
Speaker 2 There's gonna be times where I get the bill.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 2 That's just, and if that is that a progressive way of thinking or is that a traditional way of thinking?
Speaker 2 And so that's the tradition that I don't believe in. That's the tradition that I think can be moved forward in a progressive manner.
Speaker 1 Interesting. Okay.
Speaker 1 Now y'all know
Speaker 1 I support lying in podcasts. You do?
Speaker 1
You encourage it. So yeah, I encourage you.
Hold on.
Speaker 2 Maybe I need to make something clear.
Speaker 2 That is if I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 2 What is?
Speaker 2 The last statement that I made with Mark.
Speaker 2 That's what I was saying in a relationship.
Speaker 1 Why would that matter if you're in a relationship or not?
Speaker 1
Why would that matter if you're in a relationship or not? He got her. You blew it.
She blew it. I'm going to go back into the debate.
Why? Why would it matter? Doesn't matter, y'all. That's no, that.
Speaker 1 That proves Mark and issues' point.
Speaker 1 That proves the point because you are now, if you're not in a relationship and you are expecting this man man to do certain things predicated on his gender, courting you,
Speaker 1 then it diffuses the whole point that there's a expectation based on gender
Speaker 1
for men to do X. Like me and you have always been platonic.
We've been out a million times. You've never reached for the check once.
Speaker 2 I mean,
Speaker 2 you know.
Speaker 1 No, what? Nothing.
Speaker 1
She pointed at him. Nothing.
I don't know. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 I missed that. Nothing to joke.
Speaker 2 Nothing, nothing. Never mind.
Speaker 1 No, but... Oh, you say, what?
Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. That's a a whole other ball of wax.
Speaker 1 I think I understand Joe's point. And Joe's point is: if we friends and we cool, and you saying if we go out to eat, then there are times that you reach for your wallet.
Speaker 1
Why didn't you reach for your wallet when we went out? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Like, when I do it, that is the patriarchal scale and the gender and the expectations.
That's what that is.
Speaker 1
I don't mind it. I'm not throwing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is.
That's a beat. As a man, that's what we should do.
That's a beer. So, but that is what they're saying.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 and you down with that is all we be saying
Speaker 1 olive branch white flag i don't got it anymore and it's not it's not a beef thing that's not a bad thing because i think men also have that like as progressive as i am there are certain things that i don't let women do
Speaker 1 because and it's patriarchy right it's you know what i mean like i'm
Speaker 1 some of it is patriarchy some of it is expectation like i know that if i take a woman on a date no matter how progressive she knows i am when i was dating if i don't pay the bill She's not going to say, oh, that nigga's so progressive.
Speaker 1
He thinks we have gender equality. He's going to be like, that nigga cheap.
She's going to be like, that nigga cheap. You know what I mean? So some some of it is just how the world works.
Speaker 1 It's just how the world works. And so some of it we play.
Speaker 2 And also, it's like, there's way too many nuances, which is why I'm saying olive branch white flag, because there's way too many nuances involved in the conversation.
Speaker 2 Because the fact of the matter is, is that the longer that you start to see somebody and the courtship progresses and...
Speaker 2 you know, close list, the closeness starts to develop and stuff like that, then a synergy starts to happen. Like there's a lot of things are developing where understanding starts to come into play.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? No, that's true. That's true.
And every situation is different. I'm just saying that I think a lot of times we fall into these traditional roles even when we think we don't.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 we just don't see it. And it's easier, even for me, like for example, like I don't want to cook.
Speaker 1 So it's easy for me to fall into, or a better example, because my wife doesn't, neither of us really cook, right? But like washing clothes. I don't want to wash clothes.
Speaker 1 I fucking hate washing clothes.
Speaker 1 She has no more of a duty to wash clothes than I do, but she does it.
Speaker 1 She cleans the house 99% times more than I do and I just let her do it I just fall into that and and that's and that's patriarchy whereas I wouldn't do that about like fixing her car when it's time for a car to get fixed I just jump in and do it because that's my instinct and but that's a man it's just because I think as a dude I'm supposed to be doing that do you think that
Speaker 1 see my household is just the opposite so I wash dishes I clean I do all of that
Speaker 1 um I don't think it's patriarchy I just look at it's two adults yeah that's how I that's how I envision it I don't look at it like that's my girl's role you understand what I'm saying like if my girl cleans the kitchen that day she just cleans the kitchen that day but typically i clean the kitchen because i'm up late so my girl go to sleep that's my
Speaker 1 that's acting but it's not a but it's not based on my both of y'all realizing this shit has to get
Speaker 1 this house late and try to clean this kitchen boy i hit you with a party
Speaker 2 but the other but the other thing is is that as progress you know us trying to be progressive we're less likely to talk about gender roles and refer to our mates as you know in the gender we refer to them as partners now and when we think of when we call each other partners, we're really expecting, our expectation is this is a partnership.
Speaker 2
So this is shared responsibilities kind of thing. So it's less of a gender role assignment.
And it's just about
Speaker 2 we have decided to cohabitate. We've decided to have a family.
Speaker 1 So whatever, wherever the slack is,
Speaker 1 somebody got somebody shit up.
Speaker 1 And I'm just saying, I'm more likely, the last thing I say is I'm just likely to let some slack go
Speaker 1 with the washing clothes. And it's usually very traditional.
Speaker 1 I'm not going to change the tire. I'm not going to let the tire change and slack go, but I will definitely let some draws get in.
Speaker 1 I don't play my girl touching garbage. I've been like that with anybody.
Speaker 1 You cannot,
Speaker 1
I'm not cool with that. You're not taking the garbage out.
You're not doing. Right, that's all.
The most you can do, take the bag out right there and tie it. That's it.
Speaker 1
But you don't touch, like the sad part about. Censorship.
No, that's big. And I'm not.
Shut up.
Speaker 1 Tradition.
Speaker 1 Tradition.
Speaker 1
We would love for tradition to work both ways, but we can't because life is evolving every day. Double standards exist.
Double standards exist. But
Speaker 1 I do want my wife to wash dishes. I do want my wife to do the laundry.
Speaker 1 Not because I can't do it. It's because
Speaker 1 she's better at it than me.
Speaker 1
Get in that kitchen, burnt out. Maybe because she got all the practice from doing it all the time.
I mean,
Speaker 1
if you never do it, get in that kitchen. You don't wash the whites with the colors, right? Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I may wash the white clothes with cold water. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 I just made this, I know.
Speaker 1 Anime. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Not anime. No, no, no.
I want to cook. She tells me, you know, just do that, man.
Everybody made a lot of sense. And in closing, that Ford is going in the junk drawer.
Shut up.
Speaker 1 That ain't going to be a good thing.
Speaker 1 I'm Team Ford, nigga.
Speaker 1 You crazy. That's what happens in Ford's.
Speaker 1 The Hudson River, the Ford, nigga.
Speaker 1 We'll see.
Speaker 1 Hyphenated Ford.
Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1
Also, happy to report, the police are saying they have identified all of the suspects in that horrific shooting with homie and his daughter. Oh, good.
Good.
Speaker 1
They have had active warrants out. Get them.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 CSA Kwan got paid?
Speaker 1 Saiquan got so smacky?
Speaker 1
20 plus a year. Two-year extension, 40-something.
40 million? 41.
Speaker 1
I don't feel like enough. He earned every dollar.
That's for the runner.
Speaker 1
You know what? I'm thinking basketball. He's the highest best running back in the league.
I think it's a good one.
Speaker 1
He's the highest I think ever. By far.
Is that? Okay. Okay.
I don't know enough about football to not. He was fighting with the Giants to get 13.
Speaker 1
I thought it was 15. 13.
That's the Giants. The Giants wouldn't give him 13.
No, they're not getting 15 million. They would not give him 13 million.
They gave Danny Dimes 40.
Speaker 1 And I told y'all that these running backs that are up for renewal next season are going to change the entire market. That just said, Jameer Gibbs, B.
Speaker 1 John Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 And now that Saquon just did that, what are you going to tell a young 20 early 20s Jameer Gibbs he can't get? Right. Oh, he's going to take a 15.
Speaker 1
He's a threat out the backfield, catching the ball and running the ball. It's nothing I can't do.
What? You got to give him
Speaker 1 18.
Speaker 1
You got to give him 18. He's young still.
While we on football, how do y'all feel about Debo
Speaker 1
Washington? I don't care. I care.
I care. I know you're about that.
You do. You care.
Speaker 1 I care. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Why you care? I'm a Cowboy fan. What'd that mean? Y'all ain't hit me.
They're in our conference division. It's stopped enough now.
Speaker 1
He still thinks the Cowboys can win. You like me.
Bro, none of that matters. I still want my team to have a shot.
Speaker 1
I'm a fan of the team. So yeah, I'm I'm going to still root for my team.
But you should. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1 neither outcome will lead to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1
you don't know what to do. That would be in last place.
Debo wasn't the.
Speaker 1 That wasn't the reason.
Speaker 1 He lost some money? He's going to be in last place? Oh, okay. Oh,
Speaker 1 I like taking these niggas' money up here. I don't know enough Buffett Ball to bat on it.
Speaker 1
I just know the Cowboys ain't shit. We ain't.
This year. We wasn't shit.
I don't like what they're doing at Shador.
Speaker 1 I didn't have that on the board, but I don't like what they're doing in the Shador. What you mean?
Speaker 1 Or Cam Ward, even for that matter.
Speaker 1 He seems fine to me. I haven't heard anything about him.
Speaker 1
He's QB1. For sure.
He's QB QB1. Almost.
Speaker 1
What they're doing to Shador is he's too arrogant. He's too this.
Didn't interview well. We got him dropping the late in the 20s.
Speaker 1 The gap between him and Cam Ward is bigger than the gap between him and Jackson Dart or whatever the rest of the quarterbacks are below him. They got him dropping.
Speaker 1 They started to do the mock drafts where his name is just being totally disrespected.
Speaker 1 I don't know what's happening out there, but I don't like what's happening with Shador.
Speaker 1 How good is he? He's good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 1 I mean, if you're going off what you've seen on film,
Speaker 1
do you expect him to be like a... Like, who's is comparable in the NFL today? Like, who would be a comparable player? Shadua.
What's my man's name from Tua?
Speaker 1 The Falcon?
Speaker 1 He plays similar to. The Cardinals.
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1
or near. He's not mobile.
I like the Tua Comp. Okay.
I like the Tua Company. He's not mobile like that.
Yeah, he's Tewish.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 From what I've seen.
Speaker 1
The way they slander in his name, I don't know if the Giants take him if he's there. Well, y'all ain't going to take him because he's black.
I've heard that they're trying to trade it for Cam.
Speaker 1 That package that I saw looked absolutely ridiculous to trade up to the first pick.
Speaker 1 What was the package? Y'all giving away the house? Oh, you did the pick? It was our third pick from this year, our second-round pick from this year, our second-round pick for next year, a player.
Speaker 1
It was mad shit. Some old Herschel Walker type shit.
Some Herschel Walker. A lot of going on to me.
And the team ain't going to be shit.
Speaker 1
And this is the thing. The team ain't going to be shit because you're going to give up mad shit.
And now he's going to be stuck in the same situation with no O-line with Danny. Hold up.
Speaker 1
Their offensive line isn't horrible. And they got, my man, Neighbors.
Neighbors is a problem. You put a good quarterback there.
You put Ken Ward there. They're going to be a good football team.
Speaker 1
They're going to be something you have to deal with. And their defense is not.
There's pieces.
Speaker 1
There's pieces. The Giants are not that horrible.
They're not as bad in bad shape as the Patriots, even though they have a lot of cap room.
Speaker 1
They're not in the worst, worst place in the world. Except for the quarterback.
Yo, keep it in a buck. They never were.
They always had,
Speaker 1 but without, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. About the quarterback.
Speaker 1
Y'all know I'm not. I don't think Danny Dimes is a bum like that.
I don't think he's horrible, but I don't think it's a bum.
Speaker 1 I think the O-line was trash. That's why Saquon kept getting hurt year after year after year.
Speaker 1
Because they O-line wasn't shit. Danny Dimes don't be getting a chance to throw the ball.
And they didn't have a number one.
Speaker 1 Malik Neighbors is a certified bona fide number one.
Speaker 1 So we'll see.
Speaker 1 Cuomo running for mayor is interesting to me, but we toward the end. We don't have to get into that right this second.
Speaker 1
And I think he's leading polls. I like him.
Oh, that's going to win. I think a good majority of New York are still Cuomo fans, even with how he was outed.
Speaker 1
I think the country in general is kind of going back, looking at some of the cancellations that happened. Yeah.
And being like, maybe, yeah, maybe that was a little.
Speaker 1
My nigga, how can you justify picking a president that got 30 sexual allegation charges and ousting the governor that had one or two? Right. With no proof.
This nigga got convicted.
Speaker 1
He's the president. Right.
This dude got accused and he had to step down. Right.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 when they made him step down,
Speaker 1 his ranking was way up there.
Speaker 1 He was because
Speaker 1
post-COVID, he was the man. He was America's leader.
He was post-COVID. He was him.
Speaker 1 And we thought he'd be the next presidential. Yeah,
Speaker 1 they thought he was going to run. So I think that
Speaker 1 he has a way of talking to the people.
Speaker 1
He resonates with common Americans. I think that that's his strength.
And I think they've learned a lesson, too. I mean, you look at Al Franken, for example, you know, powerful senator in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 He stepped away for a very small charge relative to what some of these other Republicans have been accused of. I'm not defending what Al Franken did.
Speaker 1 I don't even know what Al Franken did exactly because I just don't remember. But I do know that I think Democrats have learned a lesson that they're playing by two different rules.
Speaker 1
Yeah, they keep stepping aside, and Republicans will be like, Yeah, I pulled my dick out. I don't care.
I'm running again, and you're gonna vote for me. And they do.
And I jerked it. Right.
Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, what's the charge? Lewdness is when you jerk your dick.
Speaker 1
Yes. Right? Yes.
I don't know. They lewd.
Speaker 1
You know what I'm saying? Like, I think just the Democrats are pussies. Yeah.
So Andrew Coleman might be the return of some courage for them. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
Even though I don't like him, you know, he's a, I hate Eric Adams, so I'll take it. And that part.
That's the part, too. New Yorkers,
Speaker 1
by and large, I think, are. Nigga, Eric Adams versus Mario Cuomo.
That's a Lancelot. That's a nice fight.
That's a nice fight. That's what fight.
That's the tank dude. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
Tell me more. Cuomo's putting that nigga to sleep in the third round.
I don't even think it's what. I wasn't talking about really results.
Oh, I'm talking about the momentum. I'm talking about the
Speaker 1 personalities. Oh, right.
Speaker 1 Those two personalities on the campaign.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God. And in a primary, too.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And a New York primary.
Because you rarely get a good primary challenge. Cuomo's a New Yorker, B.
He is. Cuomo is a New Yorker.
Talks like it walks like it. Talks like it walks like it.
Speaker 1 Eric Adams at Twitter. Eric Adams not in New York.
Speaker 1
He's hardcore. I'm talking about.
Eric Adams got on TV and was like, hey, fuck Kansas. New York got a spirit about us.
You're from Brooklyn. Eric Adams has been talking that New York shit for a while.
Speaker 1
I don't think that's... He was a Brooklyn police.
I just think Cuomo has the edge in how he handled the pandemic before they did that shit.
Speaker 1
I just think how he talks and he resonates with the people. Eric Adams, from inception, from the first day, niggas was like, eh? Yeah, he was a plurality.
Niggas was like, eh? Yeah.
Speaker 1
He's somebody who was like, all right, of all these people, he's the least. He's the one we hate the least.
Whereas Andrew Cuomo, people stand up for and want.
Speaker 1
And with Eric Adams, he had puffed at the time. Jay, all of them was.
Pole at the time. Angie, all of them was.
He was posted at the time.
Speaker 1
I don't know if he has all of that at this score. Well, it still was.
He might have puff.
Speaker 1 I'll hit the round of applause. A few quick hits.
Speaker 1
hold foul's defamation suit on Busby and the Jane Doe accuser. Round of applause.
Go hove, go hove, go hove.
Speaker 1 We support you and we love you.
Speaker 1 Casey Anthony has a really weird rebrand going on right now. I guess I'll tell you about it on Patreon, but she's a weirdo.
Speaker 1 I don't know what future has going on with this little young girl, but it's a constant reminder not to fuck young girls.
Speaker 1 Is she young?
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 She's she's older
Speaker 1 she looks older than me yeah she ain't don't get don't give me the line that i'm going based off her behavior oh yeah mentally young yeah i'm going like her face didn't look that young uh we got a rest in peace for skype there is no more skype skype is officially a rap
Speaker 1 skype used to hold it down
Speaker 1 you know i'm sad you know i'm sad
Speaker 1 skype
Speaker 1
gmail chat oovoo all them shits. Come on now.
G chat was the shit. Oh my god, that was fire.
They added that little video feature. It was over.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else?
Speaker 1 I had something else, but I don't remember it.
Speaker 1
I don't remember right now. It's cool.
I don't.
Speaker 1
Sleepers. Sleepers.
Which get those sleepers. I'm going in the vault.
I'm going in the vault for this one. I don't know if this is available on your phone or on DSPs.
This is Division 1 in a million.
Speaker 1
I don't know if this was a SoundCloud era or what. I don't think it's out, though.
Shout out to Division. Daniel, what's good?
Speaker 1 What do you mean, yeah?
Speaker 1 I feel like chemistry.
Speaker 1 and take your place.
Speaker 1 Cause love you give, it can't be relaxed.
Speaker 1 See no one else. Let me look like you.
Speaker 1 That's right of mine. I spend my life on cheers.
Speaker 1 I won't teach you
Speaker 1 in any way I can.
Speaker 1 I won't share my world.
Speaker 1 Don't you understand?
Speaker 1 Your love
Speaker 1 is a wonder.
Speaker 1 It goes on and on and on.
Speaker 1 You give me
Speaker 1 all
Speaker 1 day
Speaker 1 long.
Speaker 1 You're the love
Speaker 1 and a million.
Speaker 1 It goes on and on and on.
Speaker 1 You give me a feeling of
Speaker 1 all
Speaker 1 day long.
Speaker 1 I know I'm in the colours.
Speaker 1 I know I'm in the cause of no bad day.
Speaker 1 I only want one time to see you late.
Speaker 1 I'm only
Speaker 1 one to see you laughing
Speaker 1 in the bed.
Speaker 1 And I hope
Speaker 1 your love is
Speaker 1 all in all and all
Speaker 1 you give me a really good feeling.
Speaker 1 Your love, you're the love,
Speaker 1 you're the world.
Speaker 1 You give me a feeling,
Speaker 1
Sprand new old music. That is Division.
That is their one in a million Division remix. I wish Division get back in their bag or remixing the R B records that's already out.
Speaker 1 Give us a little tape of that.
Speaker 1 Shout out to them. I'm not sure it's available on your phone or in DSPs, but shout out to Division friends of the show.
Speaker 1 Before we continue, off of that Anthony Edwards news that we reported earlier.
Speaker 1 Anthony Edwards gets a win in court court after a judge ruled that Aisha Howard's child support case she filed in California has no jurisdiction.
Speaker 1 Anthony claims Aisha lives in Georgia, despite her claims that she moved to California before giving birth.
Speaker 1 He alleges she gave birth to their daughter and filed her case in California in an attempt to get more child support.
Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1 small win. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Seem again back to what I was just saying. It seemed like she had it for a bag.
She had the baby for a bag and he don't want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 Don't get pregnant and try to foul in California, god damn it. No, no, foul in Tennessee, where the fuck I met you at.
Speaker 1
The fuck you talking about? California. You shitting me.
She tried it. Yeah, yeah.
You tried it. That speaks volumes.
Yeah. All right, what we got, man?
Speaker 1
I'm playing something off this gym album. Wow.
This is back in the day off of At the Church Steps. I hate you, man.
Speaker 1 You just heard Mark say he wanted to play back in the day off channel steps.
Speaker 1
Mark said he wanted to play Friday and Meek, which I played. I didn't get to, but it's cool.
That's what Mark says. That's crazy.
I got back in huge slot going on, but we're not moving wrong.
Speaker 1 I like this one time. Words of the Great E
Speaker 1 Sturdy.
Speaker 1
You told me. You're back in my bag.
It's like the the bottom of some chips.
Speaker 1
Bitch, we never lack. You know, we got it on the hip.
We wasn't scamming, we was grammin'. We sold potter bottom brick.
But he was blaming that mission. Shit, they shot him in his whip.
Shit.
Speaker 1
I'm getting money. Shit, I got proud on my kicks.
See that? My jewels like a bull. She says he bout to take a dip.
Splash. Spark lights on the porch.
Cause where I live is always foggy.
Speaker 1 We gettin' real money, bitch. Every day we walk the doggy.
Speaker 1
Just left say less. Couldn't tell you what the tab was.
Put money on that ball has. I couldn't tell you what the bag was.
How Willie was at the table. I could tell you how to bag up.
Speaker 1 Ooh, your your Louie, on your Birken, that little nigga, get your bag up. Did Versace Silk and Shakya, Rolly Master C, Red face with the bezel, the roly master V.
Speaker 1 Hit the club close at four, I might rollin' after three. I used to buy two for the connect, and he would throw in half the key.
Speaker 1 Bro,
Speaker 1
shit, burnt up like a cars, burning made up in the project. For a paper, for an audience, nigga, I'm a beast.
You gon' make your moms a target.
Speaker 1
Take it to the shit, take it to the streets. I really out here like that.
So fat,
Speaker 1 you ain't really out here. Shit, where you at?
Speaker 1
We really in the mix, nigga. Stir that up.
We really taking trips, nigga.
Speaker 1
It was all smoke to them. Uh-huh.
They treat the ops like...
Speaker 1 Uh, uh.
Speaker 1 I really got some crashes with them.
Speaker 1
All them niggas know is gon' blast the blicky. Or past the blicky, just so they could blast the blicky.
Every time they watch boys in the hood, them niggas laugh at Ricky.
Speaker 1
This shit is all a joke to them. LOL.
They treat the ops like it's eyes all smoke to them. That That HT.
Mention my name, that'll cause a reaction.
Speaker 1 We really making movies, and voices just acting.
Speaker 1
We ain't playing games, ain't the toy, we ain't strappin'. And I gotta watch the phones, the boys, they be tappin'.
Shhh.
Speaker 1 Uh.
Speaker 1
These are black and white or red or blue. Back to back.
The gang is red, but the bread is blue. Side to side.
Puff with the trial with the feds and blues. Love you, blood.
Speaker 1 Still rocking my red Chuck Scar.
Speaker 1 I ain't finished with em
Speaker 1 I sold pack to the crack till I was finished with em G-Pack Niggas think they stoppers till the spinners get em I make one call to the steppers, they gon' spin and get em
Speaker 1 Make that boy a plate like we had dinner with him Any cars dropped that we ain't got, we finna get em
Speaker 1 And if I did burn a bridge, then we gon' swim to get em And if they catch us in the spot, they let us in with them
Speaker 1 Seaplanes landing on the ocean bed
Speaker 1
If you eatin', you gotta make sure that your folks is fed. Not much has changed since I had that test to roast the rats.
And tell Ted, I rather talk about the coke and stack.
Speaker 1 Don't get burnt for that butter, tryna toast the bread. Pouring liquor on the floor when we toast the dad.
Speaker 1
So we can never let it slide, just like a broken sled. I've been killing shit, wondering for murder.
Is what the poster said.
Speaker 1 Fuck the thing I spoke to said.
Speaker 1 I've been looking for my friends, but they mostly dead.
Speaker 1
Swayzey, so I brought them ghosts instead. Black shit, Swayze.
Niggas not.
Speaker 1
That was all. That is back in my bag.
Jim Jones at the church steps.
Speaker 1 All right, I'm going to Maryland. This is six, Kyle Blue, buddy, and I'm forgetting somebody like Firmament.
Speaker 1 That intro is crazy.
Speaker 1 Is it a hook on there or nah? Is this just a beat?
Speaker 1
I need a favor. I need that Zada hit like Ali and Fraser, but only papers, niggas.
Still buying packs with the flavors. I'll see you later, player.
I'm on these capers, turning racks into acres.
Speaker 1 I need a baker on my playlist, staple.
Speaker 1
Named after the angel Gabriel. I know you tired of that same old, same-old.
Stay aware of the angles. Angles ain't shit.
Sweetness ain't mango. Tango, more like Django.
Speaker 1
Old baby, might be the coldest to hit the firmament. So wait, blow in the water and make the current shift.
Old lady, anarack hoodies we used to grow up in. And niggas still white like my Doberman.
Speaker 1
I'm over it. Top the gas by the zip.
I'm finna roll this shit. The odor hit like two sticks.
Speaker 2 The old nigga deodorant.
Speaker 1
Oh shit. Never been my match, but for sure it's lit.
The whole kit. 86 coop with the gold.
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, sugar. Don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 Don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 And when the sun goes down,
Speaker 1 don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 Don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 to the DJ, play my favorite phone.
Speaker 1 Don't stop the party,
Speaker 1 don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 But,
Speaker 1
yeah, I'm ready to body shit. I'm ready to body shit.
No roly on my wrist, but y'all niggas should know what time it is. I ain't committing homicides and all, but that's alright.
Speaker 1 Cause I ain't one of them guys that just be saying something cause it rhymes with shit. Been a long time since I had the nine to body shit.
Speaker 1
I'm still about a billion away from where I've been trying to get. I'll still mix up some of the hangs with the designer shit.
I got designer that, designer this. I got designer whips, designer crib.
Speaker 1
It came with a one-of-one designer bitch. She paid like 20,000 for those.
They're designer tits. I don't even take it to the club if she keeps trying to kiss.
Ooh, shorty, don't do that.
Speaker 1
That's not cool. That's rude.
And any sucker shit they said I did is not true. And any nigga that they said was whack is not blue.
And whoever they said can hang with us is not you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, y'all already know this how we do. Come on, come on.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, sugar. Don't
Speaker 1 Don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 And when the sun goes down,
Speaker 1 don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 Don't stop. Don't stop the party.
Speaker 1 Cause it's a celebration, bitches.
Speaker 2 Take it from the best in the game.
Speaker 1
Spitting all the hella hanging up at least to elevating riches. I escalate to rangers on switches.
You niggas is on the internet. Banging from long distance.
I'm saying, come on with it.
Speaker 1
Get in the vicinity to visit me. Slippery, but you ain't it all bitches.
You playing it off endless. I'm saying you soft, you say you hard, but nobody else that you know in your circle.
Speaker 1
Say you wall, say you fall like a tree in the forest. No one will notice if I slip, no one will trip it.
Cause I'm one of the dopest. You ever try to smoke me? Gotta smoke me to the roach clip.
Speaker 1
Cause I ain't going out like double dating with no bitch party. You couldn't be an MC fly.
If you was Marty, I'll leave you as is and sorry. No joke, ass is and sorry.
Speaker 1 With no joke, the gold was gold ropes for dope quotes. The folks go
Speaker 1 and six, Kyle, Blue
Speaker 1
and Buddy. I like it.
Firm it.
Speaker 1 I think Kyle was third.
Speaker 1 Kyle was second. That was third.
Speaker 1
I don't know who the last one was. Third.
It was four niggas or three? Well, there's the dude in the hook. No.
Speaker 1
The next to the last nigga. Yeah.
Went crazy. That's Kyle, I believe.
Speaker 1
Artist is Eviction of Love. The song is Play It Off featuring Barcelona.
Oh, I see her.
Speaker 1 What I'm saying,
Speaker 1 say,
Speaker 1 Patient all night, too grown to be shy,
Speaker 1 need to be mind-stopping.
Speaker 1 I said it and he got me geeking.
Speaker 1 Looking at my watch, and it's a demon.
Speaker 2 Oh my god, jumping off the deep end.
Speaker 1 Even I'm in love or yeah, the strength is way too strong.
Speaker 1
Get me feeling when I'll let you looking for a reason. Just too tough.
But you think about leaving.
Speaker 1 Gotta get you home with me tonight. I
Speaker 1 stumble dry. 120 of the inside.
Speaker 1 We be, we do what we want to.
Speaker 1 I think you're ready.
Speaker 1 It seems like you're ready.
Speaker 1 Girl, I've been in love with you all night.
Speaker 1 Girl, got really flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they slept on you.
Speaker 1 Got so pressed on you, and I can't even play
Speaker 1 it all.
Speaker 1 Got really flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Niggas be slept on you.
Speaker 1 Gotta really press on you. And I can't even play it all.
Speaker 1 Honestly, I think that we can use a little privacy. Nobody in the business.
Speaker 1
Trying to see who I'm with around with them. Honestly, no, I don't wanna hear it.
I gotta make a few plans or something.
Speaker 1 So do you got a man or something?
Speaker 1 And if you do, baby, he don't gotta know. But either way, I can't believe you.
Speaker 1 It seems like you're ready.
Speaker 1 Girl, I've been in love with you all night.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Got really flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they really slept on you.
Speaker 1 Girl, I'm so pressed on you. And I can't even take it all.
Speaker 1 Got really flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Niggas be slept on you.
Speaker 1 Girl, I'm really pressed on you. And I can't even play
Speaker 1 it all.
Speaker 1 If you want, we can stay.
Speaker 1 Our friends can't leave. If you want, we can hang
Speaker 1 just you and me.
Speaker 1 If you want me, Shorty gotta pull up on me.
Speaker 1 Cause I want you, and I can't play no, I can't play it off.
Speaker 1 I really flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Baby, slept on you.
Speaker 1 I can't play it off.
Speaker 1 I already flexed on you.
Speaker 1 Niggas be slept on you.
Speaker 1 Play it off.
Speaker 1 That is a fiction of love and Bryson Tiller play it off.
Speaker 1 I see what you did there, Ish.
Speaker 1
Went to a man. Yeah, trying to get throw niggas off.
We ain't falling fast.
Speaker 1 We got you figured out. You already know when we ain't gonna throw us to hold off.
Speaker 1 Get me back.
Speaker 1 Let me.
Speaker 1 Mel, let's go.
Speaker 2 All right. Mine is called Crocodile Tears by Coltrane and Chase Shakur.
Speaker 2 a crowd
Speaker 2 of
Speaker 1 people.
Speaker 1 Don't say yes about me.
Speaker 1 Tell me the truth, girl.
Speaker 1 Say yes about
Speaker 1 her.
Speaker 1 Dancing sadly.
Speaker 1 And I know
Speaker 1 all you want is comfort.
Speaker 1 You say everything is ever.
Speaker 1 All this is the base of time.
Speaker 1 You're so selfish, baby.
Speaker 1 Cause I've always been about mine.
Speaker 1 Snakeskin bells and I'll be changing corners. Don't stop, you're perfect.
Speaker 1 Cause you hit me somehow, but you don't even know that I did.
Speaker 1 You know I didn't dare
Speaker 1 snakeskin bells and I'll be changing corners. Don't stop the crocodile deal.
Speaker 1 Cause you had these all hell, but you don't even know that I did.
Speaker 1 You know I didn't die.
Speaker 1 Ain't trying to send no fantasy. You fuck with me luckily.
Speaker 1 But you're still fantasizing.
Speaker 1 I know, don't need you while you're wilding.
Speaker 1 Shit ain't been the same since I touched rose, touched bag in the city like. Now your heart cold, your throat froze from the diamonds like
Speaker 1 Now your tears fall from the one side You say give me some love for the one time
Speaker 1 When you said it,
Speaker 1 snakeskin bells and LV changing. Chrome ones don't stop the crocodile teams.
Speaker 1 Cause you hate me somehow, but you don't even know what I did.
Speaker 1 You know I did. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Neutral band snakes can bells and a week change and home stones.
Speaker 1 The crocodile tears
Speaker 1 you hit me somehow, but you don't even know that I did.
Speaker 1 You know, I did, yeah.
Speaker 1 That's Crocodile Tears by Coltrane
Speaker 1 and Chase Shakur.
Speaker 1 It's going to always be some coltrain.
Speaker 1
Bart, got a rock, nigga. Mine is in honor of Angie Stone.
You know, after she left the sequence, she joined vertical hole, so I got a track from Vertical Hole call. It seems you're much too busy.
Speaker 1 Stupid ass couches.
Speaker 1
Now they stupid couches. Now they stupid couches.
When your knees fucked up, they stupid couches. God.
Speaker 1 Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 what the hell? They record this off the bino song.
Speaker 1 Shit got mad. Some tacky shit.
Speaker 1 No, it just had a mad space at the beginning.
Speaker 1 Is it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Seems you're much too busy for me, and I can't stand it.
Speaker 1 Seems you're much too busy these days, and I can't handle it. Seems you're much too busy with me,
Speaker 1 and I can't stand it.
Speaker 1 Soon you're much too busy. These days
Speaker 1 for love.
Speaker 1 That's a great joke.
Speaker 1 You gotta do that on the five.
Speaker 1 I lost the
Speaker 1 lenty obsolete.
Speaker 1 She could fit my daughter.
Speaker 1 I bet she can fit you. You're standing up.
Speaker 1 You said wearing a t-shirt.
Speaker 1 I promise that I will keep you nice and won't harm.
Speaker 1 Clearly, you work in me up you.
Speaker 1 I
Speaker 1 work with you.
Speaker 1 I'll take you all nice.
Speaker 1 Seek it on there.
Speaker 1 Send you to you,
Speaker 1 stand
Speaker 1 up to business
Speaker 1 for me.
Speaker 1 Baby, since you're just too busy,
Speaker 1 I think you're just in
Speaker 1 to them busy
Speaker 1 and
Speaker 1 Baby, make some time
Speaker 1 for me.
Speaker 1 I really need your love
Speaker 1 right now.
Speaker 1 I'm asking you to run
Speaker 1 a climb somewhere.
Speaker 1 Can't stand it.
Speaker 1
Seems you're much too busy. They stay like a hand.
Stare in the eyes.
Speaker 1 Let's not stay
Speaker 1 just how you're feeling by my baby
Speaker 1 and a
Speaker 1 baby
Speaker 1 I remember
Speaker 1 head
Speaker 1 May
Speaker 1 sometimes
Speaker 1 you're not too busy what you make and I can't stand I face your room to business
Speaker 1 and a
Speaker 1 single
Speaker 1 kickster.
Speaker 1 You're making a way, you're making me wait too long.
Speaker 1 You're making a way, you're making me wait too long.
Speaker 1 You're making me wait, you're making me wait too long.
Speaker 1 You're making me wait, but maybe I'll be gone.
Speaker 1 You're making a way, you're making a way too long.
Speaker 1 You're making a way, and soon I'll be gone.
Speaker 1 So this will be your way. You're making a way to
Speaker 1 go.
Speaker 1 Just how you're feeling by my baby.
Speaker 1 Soon you're much too busy. These days are like a handle.
Speaker 1 Soon they're waiting
Speaker 1 on your knees.
Speaker 1 Soon you're waiting
Speaker 1 these days. And I can't.
Speaker 1 Soon you're much too busy.
Speaker 1 To the car, baby.
Speaker 1 All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 That was a nice midweek pod for their head tops. How's it going? Nice light vibe, huh? Come on, now fuck they talking about.
Speaker 1
Also, we want to say rest in peace to Dolly Pardon's husband. Yes, for sure.
Carl, I want to say his name is. Can we fact-check that really quickly? Gotcha.
Speaker 1 I don't want to fuck Dolly Pardon's husband's name off. Is his last name Pardon?
Speaker 1
Some of y'all with that old I'm keeping my last name shit. Carl Dean.
Carl Dean. I mean for 60 years.
Speaker 1 They were married for 60? Yes.
Speaker 1 Amazing. Could you imagine being with somebody for 60 years? God damn.
Speaker 1 I guess that's the goal, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 That's the goal.
Speaker 1 See, you're doing it again.
Speaker 1 You just did it again.
Speaker 1
Your wife is cool as hell. Look what he did.
I got the best wife in the world. There we go.
I just couldn't imagine 60 years to anybody.
Speaker 1
Make it seem like we're miserable at home when we're here. I'm happy at home.
Shout out to you, baby. I love you.
There you go. But why do we do that, though? We just do it.
It's nigga shit.
Speaker 1
We don't have to do that. Yes, we do.
We do all that. That's what makes us feel like
Speaker 1 you got something. Right.
Speaker 1 That's all.
Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yo, speaking of.
Speaker 1
I know we said rest in peace to Angie Stone. We brought up sequence and all that.
We didn't bring up how she took D'Angelo out of the game.
Speaker 1
Snatched D'Angelo. Hey, bitches couldn't understand it back then.
Had that nigga head in the cloud. Oh my lord.
Speaker 1 Shit,
Speaker 1 yo, it ain't nothing like a breakup to how you get in the V.
Speaker 1 Start jogging, you start running, you won't be in shape. All that
Speaker 1 breakup takes weight off you like Ginny Craig. We gotta break this shit down to Patreon.
Speaker 1 I heard some things.
Speaker 1 What'd you heard?
Speaker 1 I just heard that there was plenty of rain in that cloud.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1
Like, she could have had that nigga when he was doing all this this out there now. Hold up now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 That shit drove him crazy, made that nigga gain all that weight, too, right?
Speaker 1 I think he lost it over the breakup.
Speaker 1
That's when he lost it. Yeah.
Is that what happened? That's when he got untitled. Yeah.
Yeah, nigga.
Speaker 1 Oh, don't do that.
Speaker 1
He don't. He on some Tiana Taylor shit.
Yeah, no, break.
Speaker 1 You can't do that.
Speaker 1 Don't go lose all the weight after I leave, nigga. Fuck you talking about.
Speaker 1 All right, man.
Speaker 1 Shout out to Tiana Taylor and fucking Musafa.
Speaker 1 Musafa, yo.
Speaker 1
Hopefully, you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows.
If you've been listening, you know we need to be there.
Speaker 1 Until the next time.
Speaker 1 You want to call? Let me hear you.
Speaker 1 too far.
Speaker 1 D'Angelo walking the karaoke. You leaving?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, buddy.
Until the next time,
Speaker 1
we bid you a due farewell audio. Sabriba Dirchi, Osta La Vista, Arvoir.
So long, goodbye.
Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
Speaker 1 So let's make this one last
Speaker 1 as if it's all we have
Speaker 1 Lastly
Speaker 1 The baddies are insecure Want to keep their last name Hyphenate yours That's why pretend that they against patriarchal fucking designs
Speaker 1
The stagnant women want to travel. The baddies wouldn't want to travel too.
The baddies don't want to just sit at home. They want to go out.
You pick up the tab. Go shopping.
Speaker 1 What's that little shit you be wearing? America's people?
Speaker 1 What's that shit? Martha's lines. Free people.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? The baddies want some of that free people now. Hopefully.
Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Stagnant women want to travel. The closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab your title and all you might need it.
Speaker 1 Anybody out there fighting a silent battle, we are with you. Anybody out there going through fucking aches and pains like we are? We here for you.
Speaker 1 Anybody out there that lost somebody, we with you.
Speaker 1 Hey,
Speaker 1 all right, man.
Speaker 1 Use your violence.
Speaker 1 Yeah, man, you let it rock for a little bit. What's up? Anybody doing anything interesting this week that I can exploit for entertainment purposes?
Speaker 1 Huh?
Speaker 1
Just work. I heard you in hour one say that you was gonna show us soon.
Something might be happening soon.
Speaker 2 You didn't say nothing else.
Speaker 1
You didn't say say nothing else. I know I didn't.
But I read between the lines, girl.
Speaker 1 Hey, things are going good.
Speaker 1
We'll set them down. Hey, things are going good out this bitch.
Hey,
Speaker 1 turn it up out there now.
Speaker 1
Y'all see. Yeah, y'all gonna see.
Show them bitches, man. Show them, Andy.
Speaker 1 Y'all are bitches. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1
That's what I mean. That's what I meant.
That's what I meant. Anybody got any weak plans? Anything for the week? Anything for the week? Just working.
Prayer to our brother Ish, man.
Speaker 1 Hopefully, he does not need surgery for that walk, boob.
Speaker 1
We're working this week. Ain't that many Sergios in the world, nigga? Go ahead and throw some jeans on, niggas.
I'm trying to be cute.
Speaker 1 You try to do that sympathy vote shit. Oh, girl, no.
Speaker 1 Oh, damn, what happened, Ishmael?
Speaker 1 No, he's not.
Speaker 1 I saw the crutches. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Is he okay? On my IG. That's how you know he can't sit down.
They seen him already on the crutches. Yeah, where would they see me? In the streets, where you watch? In the streets, nigga.
Speaker 1
Like going outside. You move around, nigga.
That's how, man. That's all right.
Speaker 1
have been my brother at the Mr. Crutch Man.
Probably in the gym. Mr.
Crutchman. The hospital.
Probably the gym. Oh, I didn't even think about it.
Yeah, niggas noticed you in the hospital, right?
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the hospital. That's probably where they saw him.
Speaker 1 I female. That's probably right there, right?
Speaker 1
You go to the hospital. She got some scrubs on, too.
Hey,
Speaker 1 with the jady, huh?
Speaker 1 Show you a little daddy. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Hey, yo, girl, you put that boot on my foot. Don't let my girl see.
She ain't here. You're going to kill him now to this episode.
I did hear you say you was hurt on the pod. I did hear that.
Speaker 1
I did hear you gotta do it. What can I do, bitch? Can I bring you some food? I know you tired of that Portuguese shit here.
Take some of this. Cry, chicken.
Speaker 1 Cry, chicken.
Speaker 1 Hello, bitch, bro. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 Motherfucker, bitch.
Speaker 1 No, you got to turn down that head to just fall in your lap when you're not looking for it. Turn it down.
Speaker 1 Be strong.
Speaker 1 But it's true. I don't think our girls recognize that.
Speaker 1
But you're not saying it that way. Shit.
Ooh.
Speaker 1
Nigga, you went some pumpkin shit, nigga. You went to the 17 bitches off to suck my dick today.
I'm still here. You went to 720, nigga.
You can't get this shit.
Speaker 1 Every way you turn, nigga, she right there.
Speaker 1
He's subjected to. I love my baby.
She cooks good meals. Yeah, I love the meal.
Speaker 1 Niggas be popping up. Come on, you gotta see this nigga.
Speaker 1
Sad. Sad when the baby leaves, boy.
The old ball and chain. Right.
Yo, balling. I'm talking with her.
My baby left. They both crying.
Speaker 1
He can't escape. Yeah, that's when I tried to go and use the fuck.
I tried to go make me the little shake she be making me, but she be using the bullet, the nutriment bullet and shit.
Speaker 1 Did you bullet it? But she tried to show me how to use it.
Speaker 1 Catastrophe.
Speaker 1 To be like that, son.
Speaker 1 Because it's turned on as soon as you put the thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You turn it and turn it.
Not for left handed clumsy people.
Speaker 1
So when you got to turn it off, you got to push it down and turn it. You just turn it the opposite.
Milkshake off. Milkshake all over the floor.
How? How?
Speaker 1 Because when I turned it, it unscrewed the top.
Speaker 1 You got to screw the top before you put the thing in there, don't you? You think I don't know that? When I pushed and turned, it was unscrewing.
Speaker 1
You treat it tight, Mick Flora. Yo, you're a bitch if you can work the bullet.
No, it's me.
Speaker 1
You trying to work the nigga bullet on the shit? You're trying to say your girl you are. You trying to put the tightening shit on some regular shit, nigga.
You a dodo if you can't. I can't.
Speaker 1 If he was a nigga, you're back. He's unscrewed this jar as tight.
Speaker 1
You can't tighten the shit up, nigga. Oh, shit.
Nigga say you asked your girl to untighten the mason. I'm saying if he tighten the shit up, it ain't gonna open.
Speaker 1
I hear what you like. Oh, I can't open it.
She edited this slave. Yeah, boy, I can't open it.
I can't open it. I'm gonna open daddy and swag, nigga.
Speaker 1
Black power shit, nigga. Shit, don't do that, because we already in what's the newspaper in Jamaica? The Jamaican star or some shit.
Stop. Chill now.
Enough for now.
Speaker 1 I told you to stop. That'd be enough for that press.
Speaker 1 Bug baby, my boy. What, boy?
Speaker 1
The music. They got a whole...
So, Joe Button stepkids is the Jamaican superstar. Like, wait, whoa, buddy shit.
Yeah, you're right. this podcast is big.
We had to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1
We're promoting shit. All right, man.
Again, y'all be good out there. Yo, daylight savings time is this weekend.
Speaker 1 You lose an hour. Daylight savings times this weekend.
Speaker 1
Shit crept back up on us. Y'all hold it down out there, man.
Peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity, man. Stay sucker-free, and we will be back to you same time, same place this weekend.
Speaker 1 Let the beat go.
Speaker 1 Ford.
Speaker 1 Damn, she is.
Speaker 1 If you didn't believe in all that patriarchy shit, they wouldn't have paid for the cake. Not to bring the cake back up.
Speaker 2 Oh my God. You know, you bring the cake up more than anybody else in the fucking room.
Speaker 1
I know you're not talking. You still owe me fucking Uber money.
But don't dismiss. No, you.
Oh, yeah. For me.
Speaker 2 No, we are not.
Speaker 1
We squashed it. No, we didn't.
No, you're driving.
Speaker 1
I don't owe you any money. I'll give you a little bit about that.
Get me money money from Louis. I'll pay you an Uber.
Speaker 1 I'll pay you Uberna.
Speaker 2 You left it alone. See, why you got to start somewhere?
Speaker 1 I'll pay you Uber now if you give me $100. I was talking about the cake.
Speaker 2 It basically, it cancels itself out.
Speaker 1
All right, all right, all right. Where my mind is, listen, look.
Where my mind, where my mind?
Speaker 1
I just want one day for Mel to come in and say, yo. I got you, niggas.
I would leave Earth if patriarchy left Earth.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 1
She's mad down with the patriarchy. That sounds crazy to say, Joe.
She's like, all the way down with this shit.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 I'm gonna lay.
Speaker 1 That might add more sponsorship. No, what males change? She's just front and trying to get the fucking
Speaker 1
boss pussy. Male's image, what she stands for, she can't say versus what she really is.
She can't say who she really is.
Speaker 2 She can't play the motherfucking drop.
Speaker 1
She can't say who she really is. You gotta stop thinking that, bro.
She can't. You think she can be herself?
Speaker 1 JBP.
Speaker 1 I don't like the kids.
Speaker 1 That DBJBP.
Speaker 1 JBP.
Speaker 1 That nigga got you in a good mood, girl.
Speaker 1
That nigga doing his big one. My nigga the Sergio.
Look at this. He like Alpo with them niggas, man.
Speaker 1 Broke Alpo, like when he was looking for his first, for his first half. Alpo.
Speaker 1 He liked Alpo when he needed a loan.
Speaker 1
And you got the white T too, y'all. Look at this fresh shit, too.
This is red white T. Oh, my God.
All right. Fuck these niggas.