
Episode 805 | "Support The Lie"
Beaten and battered from their recent basketball outing, the JBP kicks off the latest episode discussing how their bodies are feeling days later (3:07) before sending their condolences to Angie Stone’s loved ones following her tragic passing (33:30). The crew then turns to the Oscars 2025 (45:25) which includes Adrian Brody & Halle Berry’s kiss (52:20) as well as some criticism surrounding Zoe Saldana (1:00:23). Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis and Lamont Roach Jr.’s fight over the weekend (1:27:30), Sixers Paul George says he’s taking a break from podcasting to focus on the rest of the season (1:44:32), and **SPOILER ALERT** reactions to the ‘Paradise’ season finale on Hulu (1:53:30). Also, Notorious B.I.G.'s catalog is reportedly on sale which leads to a conversation on IP, being blackballed, and life’s roadblocks (2:08:51), the latest on Anthony Edwards status as a parent brings the room into a discussion on patriarchal designs & culture (2:50:43), and much more!
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Repeat it is not serious. It is not real.
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revealing
Indicting or telling you anything about themselves
Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals
Who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show.
Did I tell you on air? Don't start talking. I thought we was on air already.
No, we're on now. Oh, we here.
Don't start your shit, yo. Hi, my injured brethren.
How y'all feeling? Kevin Gates. Good day, my brothers.
What you asking me? Two phones. One for the plug? Yeah, come on, Kevin Gates.
Here you go. I'm not supposed to be here today, bro.
Why not? Where were you supposed to be? On vacation. What happened? Oh, what happened?
I'll have an event coming up this weekend.
Shorty, I had a change of plans?
No, no, I just have an event coming up this weekend.
So, you know, I had to stay back and focus on that.
Why are you?
Promote it.
Promote it.
Are you being a positivity highlighter?
Yes.
I got the wound this weekend.
I may not be here Friday, but, you know, I'm here today.
I just want to show moral support.
Damn, man.
Fuck.
Had big plans for you on Friday. You hear that, fans?
Flip won't be here at the next part, and I'm sad about that.
No, you're not.
No.
Behind the scenes, you were just talking shit to me just now.
No, I wasn't.
I said I totally had to say that.
Nigga, go ahead.
Go, nigga.
Go.
Yeah, you can leave whenever you want.
I ain't going to beef about it. Yes, sir.
and you have an understanding alright we gotta understand it yeah but um I'm here happy to be here happy to see you all I'm happy happy to see you it feels good to watch a bunch of old men yawn and be hurt while I'm over here young and I can kick my legs off stretching you didn't do do anything. You ain't young.
Young. You ain't young.
You're not young. Two more years to 40.
That's not young. Listen, I'm going to hold on to it.
I'm going to hold on to it. I'm about to dye my beard.
I'm about to get some surgery, do some wear. I'm about to do something.
I need to hold on to that. You got a BBL? Maybe.
You going to dye your beard for real? I am. This shit too gray, yo.
Like, come on. I got a big gray patch.
Like here. Both sides.
It's not even gray right. That's the annoying shit.
Yo. It ain't a big gray right.
It ain't proportioned right. I got two big gray patches.
Chin perfect. Means you didn't stress enough.
You like too easy. That's true.
I mean, that's stressful. You didn't stress enough.
You didn't stress enough.
You lived a good life.
Are you crazy?
That's what it means.
You could go down to just the goatee.
That's what it means.
I was like one of them Chris Hansen characters.
The blowfish.
I only want to be with you.
How are y'all playing?
This is how we be here for five hours.
I'm leaving at a certain time. What's going on today? Why are you leaving early? Nothing.
Gotta go rest your knees. It's all right.
It's bad. It's bad.
It's bad. It's bad.
The bed. The bed.
Fucking leg compressions and cryotherapy. I forgot to break out my little massage gun.
Yeah. I mean, you're dedicated to the work because while injured, I'm twisted.
Yeah. I'm twisted.
I mean, better than yesterday. Yeah.
Yesterday is the rough one. Second day is the worst.
Yeah, second day. Nah, my Sunday was bad.
I couldn't walk. We went to go, for the people unaware, we went to go, we had the bright idea.
Genius. The genius plan of going to rent a gym on Saturday night at 6 p.m.
and play basketball. That was the problem.
Yeah. The start time, I think, was really the big issue.
Wait, so wait, what would have happened if it started at 1 p.m.? It would have been better. You would have got hurt with the sun out.
Amen. I don't think so.
I don't think so. You would have got hurt with the sun out.
Our bodies are ready for bed at 6 o'clock. We need to get that early.
I was falling asleep on the way to the gym. I was like, damn, this is normally my nap time.
So I think my body was a little confused. Why are we doing things? And then the closer we got to the gym, you know how I like the closer you get to the bathroom when you got to use it, like you start pissing on yourself a little bit.
Like you piss on your thigh a little bit. Turtles start coming out.
A little yellow stain on your drawers. Just a little sprinkle.
Like it's that. The closer we got to the gym, my was telling myself your dog what are you doing? What are you doing right now? And then we got there I said you know what let me stretch and during the stretch I said You stretched? Yeah.
Yeah. I was there early.
And during the stretch I'm like this I'm tired now I was tired from my little shoot around and then I grabbed the ball and did a little shoot around and I said yeah I'm tired I think I jammed my thumb and shoot around that's really what the most pain is for me God I have so much respect for anybody that's ever played basketball at any level, yo. Rudy Fernandez, Hernandez, Jose Alvarez, anybody I ever thought was J.
Cole. Obama.
Yeah. Anybody that's ever played ball, yo.
My, oh my God, yo. I haven't decided if I need to play more basketball or completely retire.
Yo. I think it would have been better.
I think it would have been okay if you had better shoes, though. Huh? I think it would have been okay if you had better shoes.
Maybe, yeah. What you was balling in? Pumas.
Oh, yeah. Low top.
And jeans. Jeans.
Jeans shorts. Jeans shorts is crazy.
The answer, the answer is more. I think so.
More, yo. The answer is more.
It's more. But you won't, you'll feel better.
This is the first time I've played, I've played competitive basketball twice in the last 20 years. Saturday being the second of the.
Dog, I ain't going to lie. That's not enough.
No. It ain't 20 for me, but it's a good eight.
That was the first time I probably hooped in like eight years. I thought I had an advantage because it was my second time playing.
In five. In five, right.
I played a few weeks ago, you know. Yeah, no.
I got to a point, I thought I was going to have the jump too because I shot on Friday. We all thought you were going to have the jump, but it didn't really turn out that way.
It didn't turn that way at all. I got a lot of pre-injuries.
That shit felt amazing. It did.
Even gasping for air felt amazing. It did.
You know what I'm saying? Like being tired, all of that shit. Pick left.
Watch out. The bump.
All of that shit felt good. Oh, it was fun.
My feet ain't get the memo. None of our bodies did.
My brain is like, yo, I had Keeb sticking me. I thought that was a little insulting.
I'm not. Nah, Keeb was the MVP.
Keeb was the MVP.
Shit, Keeb.
Nah, Joe's the MVP,
but Keeb's in shape
more than all of us.
That's what I'm saying.
Keeb stayed healthy
and made shape more
than all of us.
Keeb shows a high basketball IQ.
He did.
He did.
He was in great shape.
That IQ shit,
as you age,
you start to see
where it's important.
That's what matters.
Because our bodies
ain't good for shit.
That's good for me.
I was like, yo.
Like, cool.
I had a good time.
That was a great idea.
Next time,
we'll do things differently.
I have some subs. Yeah, yeah.
We could have ran threes and used fucking them as subs. We'll have some subs there next time.
Because when I posted the picture of me and Mark looking half dead laying on the floor, like the niggas I know that hoop a little bit, they was hype.
Yo, your bum ass went out there. Let me know next time.
I was like, okay, I can get some subs
in this thing. But I think that's exactly
what my 44 year
old ass needed.
That's exactly what I
needed to do at 44
on my sit down on the
couch and talk job for the last
10 years. I needed to go out there
and run my body around and see
the effects of the shit and boy
Thank you. on my sit down on the couch and talk job for the last 10 years.
I needed to go out there and run my body around and see the effects of the shit. And boy, did I.
Wake up call. Boy, did I.
I work out and I thought that was enough. It's not enough.
It's not enough. It's not enough.
It's not enough, man. If you don't play ball, what they say is when you're young, you play ball to get in shape.
Right. And when you get older, you have to get in shape to be able to play ball.
Because when you hit your 40s, like, your skill diminishes with your lack of conditioning. So, like, you can't shoot if you don't have any legs up.
And mobility. You can't shoot because of your mobility.
Your coordination is off. Just even shooting a jump shot, you're not planting your feet the right way.
All of that shit. Yeah, my mechanics were horrible.
It was horrible. Man, you know us.
We think we just got it. I got it.
Look at this thing. I go out there, pick the ball up, I got it.
That's the funny part is how I was talking before this game. Oh, yeah.
I had the 31-year-old picture of myself. That happens every day in here.
Wait, hold up. Hold up.
Hold up for a minute, y'all. What'd you say? A little hate? No, no.
Make some time for a little hate. Go ahead.
Absolutely not. You said you think you 31 every time it come in? No, what he just said.
You talking about the shit talking? You talking about the shit talking? No, no, no. Thinking that, you know, oh, I'm...
She's talking about that male macho bravado in a lot of topics that will lead with our ego. You guys definitely support each other's delusion up here.
Yeah, she has a real version of what we all look like through the female gaze. But she won't ever tell us because our egos are fragile, too.
she knows that working with us. That's really the truth.
It is. I'm an interloper here.
I'm the only girl. But it's also reciprocated.
How's that? What do you mean? Go wham. You're saying you ain't no spring chicken yourself.
I've never claimed to be so, but the record is the record. We can see where Melissa is five to six days a week on her Instagram page, getting her mobility up, getting her strength and endurance up.
Talk about it. What sport do you play? Pilates.
No, if you were to play what we just did, what would that be? Volleyball Volleyball? Volleyball or baseball? You are healthier Than us Clearly in some areas The reciprocal part is We Are much healthier Than you in some areas Please. Are you saying that? Fucking crazy.
First of all, you think I was bored just for that, girl? A lot of us are in relationships. Wait, what did he say? What did he say? You think that's what makes you healthier than me? A lot of us are in committed relationships.
Have you heard the statistics about single, childless women being healthier than their counterparts who are married? You don't read that statistic, but I'm very well aware of it. I'm very well aware of it.
However, men who are in relationships are healthier than their single counterparts. That's true.
I was going to say, quote the statistics for people in relationships. She be ready to go in.
Don't play with me. I'm out of there.
I'm out of there. I know it't motherfucking play with me.
I got the fuck out of there. I'm out of there.
I'm smart. I'm out of there.
That's a spin versus male 1v1. Nope.
I'm out of there. I'm out of it, too.
You crazy? I just feel like a lot of us are in healthy relationships and we're happy. No, but here's my icing on the male cake and then I'm out of here.
There you go. There you go.
No, I think that some of us would be able to handle your truths about us better than you would be able to handle our truths about you. So just keep that in mind as you're calling us fragile.
You used the word fragile. But you agree.
You used the word fragile. I didn't say that.
Our shit is fragile. It's all right.
But that's also what I learned out there. I'm fragiler than I thought.
I'm fragiler
than I thought. Yo, you know what I
fucking thought of in the following
days after we worked out? You know what I'm so grateful
for? Advil. You know what I never
thought of? Yes, Advil.
Ice.
Knees.
Ankle, stumps.
Stumps is one for me.
I never thought about just
how many times
Thank you. knees ankle stumps stumps is one for me I've never thought about just how many times I use my knees because I'm blessed to be healthy but all that sitting and bending and getting up I almost killed myself trying to take a shit the other day I almost missed the whole whole toilet.
To sit down and be rough. I almost missed completely thinking I know where shit is.
No, when you get up, you got rock. Rock? You get up, you got rock.
I had to get naked. I had to reach for something to get up the other day.
It has been bad. I took like an hour long bath like a bitch.
Oh my God. Epsom.
Yes. That shit worked too.
Epsom is the truth. I've never had that success with Epsom before.
That shit got my angle right. You've never been 40 before.
That's true. No, Epsom.
Epsom don't play with them. That's what happened with me.
My girl tricked me into go doing some shit I never heard of. She see me in the bed dying and crying like a bitch.
She says, yo, I'm going to book you some cryotherapy. She got athlete kids.
Cryotherapy. She got athlete kids, so she thinks she got to step up in some information.
Thank you, baby, for helping me out. It's spot around here, right? Book it.
I don't know what the fuck that is. That's like ice bath shit? I don't know what that is.
I don't know what it is, though. I'm just telling the story.
I don't know what that is, but your girl say it can help you. She loves you.
She got your best interest. Go ahead and book the shit.
I go in there. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but I'm in this bitch.
And they point me to some little closet and they say, get down to your boxers and put all this stuff on. I start looking at the little utensils like a Resident Evil or one of them games where you unlock some shit.
It's gloves, earmuffs, wait, it's gloves and then mittens for the gloves. Oh, shit.
It's
earmuffs, a big-ass, fucking
thick-ass scully,
some eye shit. Oh, shit.
It's mad shit. I'm like,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, you're like Mr.
Freeze.
I said, wait, wait. What you doing in there?
Like, oh, yeah, you're just
going to get in this thing. Have you done this before?
We're just going to make this negative 175 degrees, stand there for about three minutes. Any songs you want to listen to? You did three minutes? That's all you do? That's the highest? That's not the highest.
You got the three minutes? It's not the highest. Yes.
Have you got the three minutes? That's not true. I did 245.
I was going to say, that's gangster. I was going to say that.
But there was a four-minute option. I've been here and my stepkids do four minutes.
Wow. Twice a week.
The homies do four minutes. So I go in there.
Well, I say Chris Brown. That's my new thing now.
The MRI people. What do you want to hear? Chris Brown.
What do you want to hear? You got a song you want to hear? Throw on some Chris Brown. So I get in there.
That shit fog right up. Now you can't see shit.
I'm in there freezing talking about some fucking Robitussin. I don't know how the shit got me big right now.
Baby, that was the slowest 245 in the world. Clock right in front of you.
Clock right in front of you. That shit clicking slow.
Close your eyes. We take time for granted.
Yeah, we do. Three minutes is some shit now If you're doing some shit Yeah But I did it I got out of there I want to thank you guys For coming out I'm glad everybody came out To have it It was fun Even with the injury It was fun Yeah that shit was fire Like I'm mad I got fucked up Cause I'm like Yo we can do this Every two weeks Every three weeks Shout out to the Hebrew Globetrotters My man that was in the building You know what I know what I'm saying? Buck and Buck.
Shout out to Buck, D-D, Dirk. Thanks for taking it easy on us, Buck.
My guy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Buck.
It was definitely taking it easy on us. Buck has been Jersey City All-American athlete for 25 years now.
Forever. 25 years now.
Yeah. And you know what I realized? That Mark is a man.
Like, even though I feel like he panders, he's a man's man, right? Because when his wife came in the building, that nigga turned to Super Saiyan. He made shit.
I said, oh, look at Mark. I watched him.
Careful. Super what? Super Saiyan.
Meaning it's a power-up. Super Saiyan is Dragon Ball Z.
Uh-oh. Like Goku power-up.
And you just power-up. And I'm watching you.
Nah, he was there from the first play. Yeah.
Nah, nah. I see it.
I'm telling you. All right, let me get my shit off, man.
Let me get my shit off, man. I know you want to save him, white man.
Listen. Sorry.
I'm sorry. I just saw Mark when I watched because Mark was, you know, shooting, but he just, to me, he went harder, nigga.
He said, I'm not going to look like a chump in front of my lady and she was supporting him. That's how I play anyway.
I was talking shit to Corey from the first play.
He was talking shit
from the first play.
No, fuck that.
If he don't call foul,
he don't get the ball.
I'm like, okay.
It's real now.
Because Imani gave Joe a foul.
He's like, yo, he ain't call?
He don't get no ball.
Fuck that.
Imani really tried to hurt Joe.
That's what we want.
No, Imani and Joe
was going at it.
I don't know.
That was my favorite thing to watch.
I don't know what was up with them two niggas. That's suspension.
That's suspension. Joe like, I'm going to pay you back.
Joe like, he's trying to hurt me. He came back.
No, Imani really, you're right. Imani got some type of anger pent up about something that I don't know about.
He tried to hurt me. He brought brass knuckles.
That nigga one play landed on my foot like on purpose. I felt like I was playing against that little dirty white boy that's on Phoenix now from Duke.
Grayson Allen. I felt like I was playing Puerto Rican Grayson Allen.
He tried to end me out there. God damn it.
I was like, yo, you want to switch? He was like, no. I will not switch.
I had to switch out with him at some point. Joe was giving him buckets all day.
After the fifth bucket, I was like, hey, let's switch. He was like, no, then you switch.
Back to that pride, back to that fragile ego. Yo, that's another thing.
That is one of the moments where your ego has to be tested, when your teammate look at you and be like,
yo,
you want to switch?
Let's switch.
I take this thing.
No.
Especially when you over there getting cooked.
Yeah,
you got to switch.
If you're getting cooked,
you got to switch.
You got to switch.
He ain't want to switch.
I was happy.
Ego ain't going to let no,
five points.
Ego not letting you switch.
Five.
You better have more than five.
No, no, no.
At the point where I asked him
to switch,
I said switch, I'll take him. He was like,
nah, I got him.
And y'all were like, no, you don't.
It was like, yeah.
He really don't. Nigga, he had eight.
Joe had eight points.
Joe's MVP. Seven of them were
on the R&B singer.
Oh, nah. Nah, y'all not gonna do that.
Let E, wait for E
to get here. I'm gonna be be here for Patreon.
That's why I'm saving my. No, it was so much.
We all, you know, it was a lot of fun. We were horrible, but it was so much fun.
Nah, it was fun. It was fun.
I can't wait until the video comes out so people can roast us. They going to cook us.
Oh, my Lord. What? As they should.
I'm not watching that. But I appreciate it.
I'm going to treat myself better. Word.
I wanted to ride the Peloton in the morning with the fucked up Achilles. I tried to work.
It was terrible. Yeah, I'm going to treat myself better.
I text the trainer. It's time.
Are we going to commit to doing this once a quarter, once a month, once every other month? We'll play better if we play more. The more you play, you'll start getting everything back.
You'll start to get your coordination back. Why don't we do different activities that encourage more mobility and different volleyball, pickleball.
What the fuck is pickleball? It's like badminton. It's like badminton with football.
Tennis for old people. If we do volleyball, I'm wearing MCM and pumps in the bump ships.
Indoor? Wearing speedos with the indoor gear. It's crazy.
I'm telling you how I'm on it if we do a volleyball. Wearing spanks.
Oh, man. I'm down for some bowling.
Bowling would be fun. That's easy.
I'm down.
Laser attack.
I don't know if this is a skydiving bunch.
I did that already.
All right, jumping at a sheet. Paintball.
I'm not so mad at paintball.
I've never been a paintball guy.
I love paintball.
Why don't you pick the activity so you would be included?
Why don't you pick the activity?
These are the ones I can definitely do.
Paintball, volleyball.
Niggas.
Which paintball? The one in PA? The one in PA? Where we're at, like outside? Yeah, put us in the forest? Yes. I don't do that indoor shit.
You gotta be outdoors. Gotcha.
My man, I just got paintball standards. My bad.
Yeah. Yo, once you play outside, outdoor paintball, you don't wanna do that indoor shit.
You got the gun? You got the gun? No, I use that shit.
My man and them had the gun.
Them shits was $300 and $400.
We're all like, yo, my nigga, you spent $400 on the paintball?
Once you play tactical, it's like, all right, I'm never doing this other shit.
You don't want to play inside anymore.
And I told y'all that somebody at my mom about an escape room.
Oh, I'm down for that.
How you know that?
In New Rochelle.
You already know.
Oh, I haven't done that in a minute. Escape rooms was our shit, so I'm always down for a escape room.
I'll follow up on that. That might be a good time.
Bowl's an easy one, though. We should definitely do that.
Pool. Pool might be funny.
Pool. I wouldn't be mad at a whole little bar game.
Bar crawl kind of thing. Darts.
Darts. Darts.
Darts. Darts pool.
Get that axe throwing. Axe throwing.
Yeah. I've never done that.
I can shoot pool. I don't ever throw no axe.
I've never done that. I've done an axe.
I can't shoot pool. And I'm trashing pool.
Get that axe throwing. I can shoot pool.
I don't ever throw no axe.
I've never done that. I've done an axe.
I can't shoot pool. And I'm trashing pool.
I'm trash. We really sound old.
Bingo.
We have officially
a whole 10 year anniversary. We sound
old as hell. Even though all the games
y'all playing, last time
many, many 15 years ago, however long
that was, when I decided
to leave my Poconos
room and go to the lodge
Thank you. playing.
Last time, many, many 15 years ago, however long that was, when I decided to leave my Poconos room
and go to the lodge,
the central meeting area,
the game center,
I killed all them little white boys that was in there.
Nigga, you crazy? Darts.
Darts, air hockey.
What else they had
in there? Ping pong.
All these little 12-year-old rich white boys. You nice in ping pong? No, but I was better than them.
Ping pong, that's the shit, though. Yo, bring the kickball back.
Yo, after Saturday, I'm not saying I'm nice in nothing no more. No, nothing.
I don't think I'm nice in nothing no more. At all.
You got to reevaluate. Yeah.
You can't have your 1996, 2006 mind. Duh.
Because your body still think it's that. Like, my body still thinks
it's 96.
Nigga.
For like bursts of speed
and then it's over.
Then you be like,
nigga, you can't play no more.
I could have killed Mark ass.
His little fast ass
was zoomed to a spot
because he fascinated by it
and then just be there.
Yeah.
Nigga, shoot the ball.
He's zooming around
and everybody's confidence
was fucked up. Yeah.
Nobody was shooting. No, yeah.
Oh, I was like, I was scared to shoot the ball. He's zooming around.
Everybody's confidence was fucked up.
Nobody was shooting.
I was scared to shoot at him.
Nobody was shooting.
I bricked the cut.
I was like, yeah, I'm going to try to just pass.
I'm going to beat my man and pass the ball.
That's what we were all trying to do.
Yo, game 11 used to go a lot faster.
That shit took an hour.
Way faster.
Game 11 used to be quick, but not so much when can't nobody score. Yeah.
My man was right under the basket with it. Who? You.
Everybody. I'm just like, the...
Dog, everything. The video I saw.
Layup after layup after layup. Niggas didn't shoot that shit over the backboard.
Yeah. I was like, yo, this is terrible.
All right, y'all keep going. I'm going to sign us up at the senior citizen service.
Y'all keep it up.
Yeah, it works.
I'm going to sign y'all up.
All right, we ready to work?
We ready to go?
We ready to go?
We ready to go?
Let's pause.
Let's go.
Okay, let's fucking go.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. One Mic check, one, two, one, two, rest in peace Angie Stone.
Shout out to wherever you might be listening from, real niggas all over the world. Always for the ladies, always for the ladies, it go.
Most of me back again. She's not in love, but she's just a friend.
Second time. I never got any.
Shout out to the first and last time listeners All the suck girls out there Now you think it's funny Now you wanna spend your money A girl that you forgot when you were down 30 and up, 30 and up right now 40 and up right now, 40 and up All now, 40 and up. All my love will hang and call again.
What in the world is happening? Shout out to all the kids out there. All the college niggas listening.
Don't yell at me. All the high schoolers, all the chairs all over the world.
Isn't it ironic? All you're gonna do is smoke chronic Boy, you forgot when you were shot I can't sleep anymore Waiting for love to walk through the door I wish I didn't miss you anymore
This is my shit Shout out to the neo-soul chicks out there Hey I know. Memories don't live like people do Alright, what we start with? What we start with here? Y'all figure it out.
Y'all got a burst and a bridge to figure it out Hey! Hey! Whole New York City, whole New York! Pink Jersey, pink Jersey! How are you? All right, man. I wish I didn't miss you anymore.
I can't, I can't sleep anymore.
I wish I didn't miss you anymore I know for daddy. This part.
This part. This part.
This part. This part.
This part. Flip and Mel and Mark.
Mark. Mark.
All right. What episode is this? 805.
Welcome to episode 805 of the Joe Button Podcast. Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, prize picks, prize picks gang.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here. Fully dressed host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right.
You know the vibes. Big informer, Melissa Ford is in the building.
Queens Flippers in the building. Queens get the money.
King of Wap, King Wawa. Big issues in the building in his walking boot.
Wills. I don't know if you're Wills anymore with that.
Yeah, you're not Wills. Nigga Linux.
You're not Wills. Nigga Linux.
I told them, at least they ain't giving that little bullshit, the Section 8 blue little sandal walking boot that they be giving you out the little glass container thingamajiggy. You got that first.
You got good coverage. That's that.
Yeah, you ain't got the soft, soft little bullshit, K. You got good insurance.
You got good insurance right there. You matter, though.
Yeah, no, it matters. My shit matters.
You on your wife shit? Oh, man. My man.
My man. My man.
Big Freeze, the freezeiest. Ice is in the building.
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Elmira's finest. Parks is here.
Fo is here. Corey is here.
Erickson is here. Keeve and Ian are here.
Savon and Tanner here by Remote Labs. But certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
You've heard about our weekend. I didn't do shit.
That was the weekend. That was it.
That was the weekend. Well, I went on.
The fight was after that. That's right.
I did go out to dinner for Sunday night. I did go out to dinner.
And I felt go out to dinner And I felt every minute of that I'm talking about Getting out the car Getting into the car Sitting to Oh yeah We went to some steakhouse In Montclair That shit was like Man I couldn't pick up the fork My eyes was hurt Everything was hurt Lord Did your wife know Just how much pain Your body was in Or did you try to tough it out I got a pretty high Pain threshold Because I'm always getting injured from shit. You know what I mean? And so she heard me say that we might try this again.
That picture I sent you of us on the ground, she took that picture. She didn't send that to commemorate it.
She was like, stop. Nigga, stop.
She was like, this is what y'all look like. Whenever y'all think about doing this shit again, look at this picture.
Your wife is right. She's wise lady.
Exactly. I ain't gonna listen no we ain't gonna listen um yeah i didn't do i stayed in bed i stayed in bed i didn't go nowhere this might be the first weekend ever where i just didn't move i slept for baby free 12 hours sober after that that's wild that epsom salt bath will do that to you too
lay you out
I shot down Orlando
for my niece's birthday party
shout out to baby Kylie
I just love kids man
I just learned that
I gotta learn how to swim
it really hit me
my daughter is
daddy let's go
she take off
and I'm rolling with her
come on alright come on
you get to that little
five feet
and your toes start to
brush up against
Thank you. is daddy, let's go.
She take off and I'm rolling with her. Come on, all right, come on.
You get to that little five feet and your toes start to brush up against your five, six. Nigga.
So you only be like right here. You start realizing like, all right, is she going? I'm like, yo, dog, come back, brother.
So that's my plan. I know how to keep saying it.
I'm going to learn how to swim. Yo, if you want to take a group class, because I've tried to learn how to swim like four times.
I did mad times. You can't be that surprised.
A little surprised. That's racist.
That's weird. I don't know.
How many of y'all can swim? Show of hands. Who can swim? I'm just going to draw a melanin.
So immigrants can swim. Oh, shit.
I meet a lot of Jamaicans, a lot of West Indies. All the islands.
All the islands I know people who swim.
Black Americans.
I was going in, nigga.
Well, you're not ADOS.
I'm not ADOS, but I was going in. We don't swim.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, they threw me back in.
Like, six months.
I joined a baby school for swimming.
Yep.
Your mom did that?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I almost drowned twice, so that's how I learned how to swim.
Oh, that's the other way.
Okay.
Somebody had the right idea.
If somebody could have just followed through. I almost drowned at Dunn's River Fall in Jamaica, then I almost drowned in New Jersey at my cousin's pool when I was younger.
Dunn's River? Like the waterfall thing? Yeah, I almost drowned. Who threw you in that? Alligator Palm.
One of them shits I almost drowned, almost drowned and they helped me. Three times I almost drowned.
I could plan. I almost drowned in Montego Bay, and then I almost drowned in New Brunswick.
That's a lot of times. Yeah, the lady jumped in and helped me, and I was panicking.
She's like, yo, calm down, because I was pulling her down. Oh, shit.
Then I had to learn. I just learned how to swim.
Each time, were they able to get all of the infested water from out of your... My brain.
Did they move mouth to mouth?
Your head.
Yo, Joe, I'll fuck you up today.
You're injured today.
I'll whoop your ass.
Did they vacuum some shit?
No, it was scary.
Put a catheter in your ear?
I learned how to swim by default.
And then I'm going to swim by default.
Let's do it.
I'm down.
He's scared, too.
He don't want to swim. I told him, I said, Joe, you should go try to learn how to swim.
I to As an adult It's dope I have to And I took You're doing To learn how to swim Yes How'd that happen Damn if I know Cause kids are like Kids are like dogs Wow No I took my I took my daughter To learn I took my daughter To learn But she was a little Too small I took her when She was like Six eight months That's when you should start My daughter on her back Doing all this shit My daughter's a lifeguard I'm like alright I too small. I took her when she was like six, eight months.
That's where you should start. My daughter on her back doing all this shit.
My daughter's a lifeguard. I'm like, all right.
I took my daughter to swim lessons from age six months till about 12. She took swim lessons.
She's a lifeguard. She could do all that.
I tried to do the lessons. It didn't work.
Do you panic when you get in the water? Do you panic? He 5'6", too, though. I'm 5'10".
They shit only coming like right here. Why? You know what? Yo, you good? Yeah, I'm sure.
I can step on your foot. That's what I'm saying.
Y'all my niggas. Y'all my niggas.
That's cool. You can't swim, right? You can't? Yeah, I can swim.
I can't tread and I can't float. That's what I thought was so...
How can you swim and not tread? I don't get that. When I jump off the diving, I could jump off the 30-foot joint.
Like in Maplewood, they got the high joint.
30.
When you get in the water, if it goes up.
Yo.
Don't play that, man.
Don't play, family.
Stop.
All right.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's been about 45 minutes of... We all...
Yeah. What we can't think.
Yeah. At some point, we do have to come to work and quite speak about things.
Can I say something about Angie Stone? Sure, go ahead. Angie Stone.
First of all, rest in peace, Angie Stone. She's one of those people who...
Oh, wait, hold on. You're about to be serious.
At least let the hook go. Oh, sorry.
Alright, hold on. Come on.
Alright, that's all I need here. Alright.
Alright. Back to the legend.
Yeah. Legendary Angie Stone, Neo Soul Legend, all that.
I didn't know her well, but I knew her well enough. I knew her to speak, interviewed a bunch of times.
Real good people.
One of the few people that when they die,
everybody has good things to say and doesn't have to lie
or doesn't have to remain silent.
But the thing that I want to say about Angie Stone
that I think is important is that a lot of people
only think about her as a neo-soul goddess.
And they forget that she is a hip-hop pioneer.
As much as No Rain in This Cloud and all the songs that came out when she made that album in 99, which is great, she's part of Sequence. And Sequence, when we move from disco to hip-hop and you start to hear hip-hop as a party sound, she's the voice of that.
She's the soundtrack. And the other two sisters are the voice of that.
Sequence is a hip-hop pioneering group. They were the second act signed to Sugar Hill Records.
They were major hip-hop act.
And when we do the hip-hop commemorations and the 50th anniversary,
sometimes we leave out Angie Stone
and we leave out Angie B at the time
and we leave out Sequence.
I'm just saying, as we remember her,
let's really write her in the history
and not just in the R&B.
That's it.
Got you.
I agree.
That was very well said.
Very well spoken.
What do you know?
I'm good at the talking job.
That's why you command the big bucks.
I command them.
They might sprinkle some silence out there for two seconds.
You going to let them do that?
What?
You going to let Mark smoke your fucking boots on the air? That was your topic, girl. Nigga, but Mark came in late.
He bought the steam train back. He planned, yo, when I get to the A&G, I'm going to take it to the law office.
And how I survived my accident. And you and y'all put a stop to that because you did not want to set out the pod.
Mel, get it back. Turn up, Mel.
You didn't want to set out the pod. Not again, Mel, get it.
I don't think Mark was here when we had a discussion about the fact that when a loss like this happens, you could say that this was before her time. This was a tragic accident versus somebody that we're aware has a long-running health issue and then they end up passing away.
So the conversation I was trying to see if the guys wanted to talk about is the process of loss when it's something like that. And then especially where she was going.
She was on her way to do something, to sing the national anthem. And then that was just really strange how the people at the game handled it.
It was announcing it like, oh, well, yeah, our halftime performer. I have a problem with that.
I have a huge problem with that. I have a big problem with if an artist is about to perform somewhere, you're announcing to that audience, hey, y'all, the act just died.
Yes, insane. Wow.
I think that that's absolutely nuts. I don't know that everybody knows that that's nuts.
Maybe they didn't know a better way to handle that. but I think that that's absolutely nuts.
I don't know that everybody knows that that's nuts.
Maybe they didn't know a better way to handle that.
But I think that was totally the wrong way to handle it.
If I was a ticket goer, I would be distraught.
I would be asking to see somebody.
Yeah.
I agree.
I'll go ahead.
No, no.
I heard the announcement.
She was performing at halftime.
The gentleman walked out.
He let the crowd know, hey, can I get a moment? Can everybody stop? And everybody got quiet. He was like, you know, we were supposed to have the legend, Angie Stone, perform.
A couple people started clapping. And he said, unfortunately, she passed away in an accident.
In an accident, we're here. So everybody was like, what? Like, you could hear her.
You don't have a good idea. No.
I feel like it would suck the air right out of the room. And then he asked for a moment of silence.
Everybody gave the moment of silence and they clapped and everything and went on. But I personally, I'm not mad at announcing, hey, listen, something just happened and this is why the person is not going to be here.
Don't nobody have a problem with you announcing something just happened. Right.
But not the fan. You came out there and said, she passed.
Yeah. We don't have no beef with something just happened.
Oh, my God, an emergency, unfortunate. It's not your place to get out there and tell these fans that the act has perished.
Right. It's not your place.
It's also the age of social media. I was just getting ready to say, you better read it on your phone.
No. No, no.
What I'm saying is if I'm in the stands and I tweet, oh my God, they just said Angie Stone died. Now Angie's son or Angie's aunt or Angie's brother who doesn't know they're dead yet has to read that on Twitter.
Well, I don't know if this occurred, if that person got their information. I don't know if they got it before social media.
They could have got it from there as a TMZ post go out. Oh, that's fair.
That's possible. And then they announced it to the crowd because the news is already out there.
I don't want to just put that on him.
The local authorities are not going to come to the CIAA tournament and be like, yo.
I thought her team called.
That's what I assumed.
But either way, to the other point, because I think that's a great point.
You're right.
I pulled that one back.
But the idea of, yo, you just sucked the air out of this room.
Everybody in this room is now devastated to hear it.
Some people came there just to hear it and just don't. I believe that.
Yeah, that's crazy to find out that she's just dead. I don't think you do that.
I just don't think you do that to people. I don't know what the proper protocol is.
I'm not pretending to know. You should not put people in that spot.
Shit, when we was on the road, when we found out, Nipsey died. No, what's the dude, the white dude? Mac Miller? No, Paul Walker.
Y'all was on tour. Paul Walker? No, no.
DJ AM. Yeah, DJ AM.
And DJ AM. And y'all was with his man.
Travis. Travis and him.
Yeah, I mean, that's a little different because we just happened to be there for a personal call where we found something out. When Nipsey died, we was on our way to a stage.
Yeah. Oh, wow.
And had to perform, and the news had just broke. And we were in Cali.
We were in Cali. The entire building wasn't really there.
Like, the whole place was elsewhere. There was an energy in the room that made it a difficult night for everybody.
I think we said a prayer at end of some shit like it was tough so i just don't think you put that feeling in people that came to a show for a show let them find out just say oh we've had an emergency there's someone for you as a performer i don't agree with it maybe as a consumer you want to know that as a performer i don't i don't agree with that at all yeah and also like with social media a lot of times reports go out prematurely where the person might not have passed away and we've seen that happen before where before the family has a chance to make their statement people are just like oh so and so died and it's just like no they're still on life support but it's not for us to have a discussion about so i would be really afraid to be the one that announces this to a whole crowd of people before it is you know without making sure that the confirmation is really actually the confirmation like I would err on the side of caution and say we had a performer there was an emergency we apologize and that's really and leave it at that yeah we just we don't know the timing of when they got the timing matters The timing matters. Because when it was officially out, they could have got it then.
And then I'm not mad at that, because nine times out of ten, most of y'all are going to know anyway. The last piece of this for me is also people who were tweeting just wild shit.
People were tweeting the truck itself. They were tweeting the van that got flipped over.
Because she was the only person to pass, too. She was the only one to pass.
And they were showing these van that got flipped over because she was the only person to pass too she was the only one to pass and they were showing these graphic images and y'all out there people are human beings somebody loves them and if you're famous or not it doesn't matter nobody wants to go on Twitter and see the person they love dead on their timeline or the van crushed on their timeline have some decency post a still picture unfortunately you're living in yesteryear I know you're living in yesteryear and everybody most a lot today are so desensitized to that shit yeah where they could look right at that image and scroll as horrible as the image was that was one of the nicer images as it relates to our entertainers passing. That's true.
That's sad. It was like the aftermath.
I didn't see the actual accident. There's a video going around right now.
That's the actual accident? No, not of that. Of someone else that I don't even want to talk about.
Oh, my God. No, no, no, no.
And the video keeps right past that. I've been trying to avoid it.
I'm not even going on social media, bro. Right.
That story... Just a story? ...in and of itself.
Exactly. And I'm not familiar with the young man, rest in peace.
And his five-year-old daughter. The young rapper and his five-year-old daughter.
This is in... Texas.
Dallas. Texas.
I want to say that this is in Dallas. Like, oh, I can't.
Yeah, I can't even. We got his name? G.
Dallasson, Little Ronnie. Little Ronnie, yeah.
Yeah, and his five-year-old daughter, Fort Worth, Texas, was ambushed at a car wash. Rest in peace.
Shit different out here. The Angie shit reminds me of just how vulnerable entertainers and performers are that tour and travel and rely on that for their income.
Income.
You know what I mean?
Like people really put themselves in a dangerous position all day, every day to entertain us.
Yeah.
That's your point.
Like traveling, especially in cars, is like the most dangerous shit in the fucking world. And people do it for a living.
Yeah. That's your point.
Like traveling, especially in cars, is like the most dangerous shit in the fucking world and people do it for a living. Yeah.
18 wheeler boy. God damn.
Mm-hmm. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. For sure.
For sure. The roads be scary though.
Yeah. Like the roads are the...
I don't think we at that age now. Yeah, my nigga.
And it ain't how good you drive. Nah, because the other guys can't drive.
That's the other part. The other niggas be on their phone, swerving in and out of the lanes.
All it takes is one. Somebody not paying attention.
Yeah. They teach you that.
You got to drive. When you drive, you got to drive with the other person.
Defensive driver. Defensive driver.
Yeah, that's why I be getting mad at my driver. He'll spot the worst driver on the road and just stay right by him.
Going 20. Like, yo, nigga, could you get away from this fucking lunatic nigga? You don't see him? You can tell when somebody on the road just says, Oh, bullshit.
You can tell. You can see him right away.
Yeah, yeah. They done fucking got the little fucking Puerto Rican Honda engine in there shit is loud as hell now you got your little 20 miles out pop pop pop yo dog you haven't left the block yet pop pop pop yeah niggas that merge wrong into the fucking yeah nah man uh uh let me queue up I was there so I'm doing it let's get us out of there I'm yeah yeah let's get us on out of there bro
please it's playing but i don't hear it you gotta turn it up oh shit yeah oh man Rest in peace to anybody
After they lost somebody recently
Our prayers, thoughts, and condolences To Angie Stone, her family Her friends Her loved ones Girl, you're looking sweet dog bad
Goodbye, baby
No, dog, bye Goodbye baby No Jovan Wish that I could love you, bye In a special way I know you're talking You like my mind Alright, alright, alright, alright Ripping, ripping, ripping Daddy.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
Blow my mind.
I'm satisfied.
All right.
Where we going?
Where we taking this thing?
Oscars. The Oscars.
The Oscars. Okay.
Let's do it. The Oscars.
Mel. Yes.
Did anybody else watch it? I watched it. I watched it.
I watched it. Well, I watched it on Hulu and it died right before Best Picture.
No. Best Actress.
Midway through Best Actress. I was like, right before Best Picture.
What'd you mean it died?
Like, who just went down?
The fee fucking died.
The fee just was over.
It's like,
oh, your show's ended.
It's like,
no, it hasn't.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, it was,
it was,
I watched a nice portion of it.
Okay.
All right, what'd you think?
First thing I'll say
is it did not seem
like a Jesse Collins production
at all.
So that was the number one thing
that I thought.
Conan O'Brien did fabulous as a host. He's hilarious.
Yeah, he was good. He's really, really good.
I will say that as much as I champion watching the early parts of the Grammys, this was like that for the whole ceremony, which is a lot. A lot of shit you don't care about.
Yeah, like best foreign short animated movie. Like, congrats.
But like. You could have tweeted that.
Yeah, you could have put. You could have tweeted that.
They could make an earlier ceremony for them too. And get some of that stuff out of the way.
Yeah, very much so. I think the Grammys is maybe too far left of not showing enough.
And Oscars is too far right of showing too much. Showing too much.
I love all those. Maybe it's because I make film, but like I love watching like the documentary.
I love watching the best foreign I like every one of them. I like the best Dolly Grip, like all that shit.
I want every award shown. Every single one.
Even the pre-show was long. Like the red carpet show? They show you on six different stages on the carpet.
They were so bad that they had to have on the side three separate screens to show when you walk in, you over there on the carpet, you over there on the carpet, and then you come up on the main screen.
It's like, yo, my nigga.
We get it.
Like, yo, we get it.
We got you.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, oh, she was over there.
They on this screen.
It's like, yo, dog, we got it, fam. I'm cool.
Anybody clean up? There's a film called Anora that really, it swept. And it was a very, very, very indie film that a lot of people have never watched before, had never even fucking heard of.
And it won all the major categories, like Best Picture, best director best director oh shit um i think it was a screenplay editing editing that they won yeah and no sorry it wasn't um it wasn't screenplay it was uh best actress which was huge because everybody favored demi moore to win for this movie called the substance did you see Substance. Did you see it? No, not yet.
Okay. The Substance and The Brutalist are on my list.
Adrian Brody is... Let me tell you something.
Good fucking luck. I will never watch The Brutalist.
It's three and a half hours fucking long. It's like watching Beige Pete.
We're healthier in that area. Oh, good for you.
Okay, you tell me how it is. I have a feeling you're going to fall asleep at least five times during this movie.
Mark my words. Not if it's good.
I just sat and watched the Avengers fucking Infinity War. I watched Lord of the Rings.
I watched Twilight. I watched all of them.
That's captivating shit. Listen, y'all just watch it and then come back and we'll talk about it.
The Rude List is about the architect, dude. Why is that not captivating? Okay, listen.
Tell us, man. Well, we'll check it out.
Y'all just check it out. I'm going to watch it.
I like shit like that. I don't know what it's about.
That's the hard part for me. It's about an immigrant architect who built a whole bunch of shit, and then the wealthy fucking people started treating them like shit and took all the shit and stole the shit.
That's your balance. That's what I'm saying.
I expect it to be slow, drawn out, plot, story. Are you kidding me? Somebody built it up and then they came and stole it, bro? That's one of the movies where I'm waiting for my girl to leave so I can get into things that I like.
Oppenheimer was long. No, I know.
There's definitely movies that I can watch that are really lengthy pictures and I really liked Oppenheimer. Another really, really long movie that I completely love is There Will Be Blood, which was another one that kind of swept the amazing movie.
You don't stick around when shit is long, though. No, There Will Be Blood was three and a half hours.
Outstanding! I'm going to make y'all motherfuckers eat your words, okay? She got Tiana back. Back to the fucking Oscars.
Y'all should watch The Substance. It's a very, very wild movie.
It looks great, too. It's really, really good.
I want to see the Adnor shit. That's interesting.
It's about sex workers. It is.
It's a very, very wild movie. It looks great.
It's really, really good.
I want to see the Ennur shit. That's interesting.
It's about sex workers, right? It is. It's basically about
this young girl. She's a sex worker
in Brighton Beach and she ends up
meeting the son of an oligarch.
You know her, Paul?
They end up getting married and then
the family comes down to meet her to try
to get this annulled because they
will be damned if their son marries a prostitute. The father hit it before no he didn't he was in Russia but you know there's a hit man involved there's all kinds of shit going on so yeah I just read the edition sound all right yeah yeah good looks yeah but the substance for me was really really I really love that movie because you would never think Demi Moore would actually do a movie like this and basically basically what it is, it's like this aging starlet, she decides that, you know, she gets introduced to this concept of kind of splitting yourself in half.
And you're like, there's a younger version of you, but you guys have to share time. I thought it was about Ozempic.
It was not about Ozempic. It was about us hooping.
Pretty much. But anyway, so the young ingenue who was the lead in Nora, she actually took the award for best actress.
And a lot of people thought Demi had it locked.
So that was kind of surprising.
Also, what was kind of disappointing was the tribute to Quincy Jones.
Like, it was weird.
That's why I say this was not a Jesse Collins production because the tribute to Quincy Jones would have been so much better.
And he, you know, they had Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg come out and talk about it. Queen Latifah.
And then Queen Latifah sang, you know, the song from The Wiz. Down the Road.
Down the Road. And I was like, out of all Quincy Jones productions, that's the song you choose? Yeah, because it's tied and we a movie.
I mean. It's tied in with Wicked.
Sure, I get it. And it's still an Oscars girl.
That part. Who is going to have something? Listen, you could tell when Jesse Collins produced the Oscars, it looked and felt like it.
You know what I'm saying? And that is a huge compliment. This was very,
I don't want to say watered down,
but it just was very...
It's a different W word.
White.
It was washed.
It was white.
It was white.
When can we get to the kiss?
Okay, so...
Let's get to the fucking kiss.
The fuckery.
So Adrian Brody ends up winning
for Best Actor for The Brutalist. Fast forward 20 something years.
Rewind. Sorry, rewind.
Sorry, rewind 20 years ago when he won Best Actor for The Pianist and Halle Berry was on the stage and she was the one who was presenting him with the award. He got up on the stage and literally swooped her up in this huge unplanned kiss that she was not prepared for and she played it off really well.
So fast forward 20 something years he's won and she decides to recreate the moment. And turns to his wife.
In front of his wife. Walked up to his wife and was like yo, pardon me.
You know I gotta do this. Pardon me real quick.
I'm just paying back. And check this out.
He did that in front of her wife. Walked up to his wife and was like, yo, pardon me.
You know I gotta do this. Pardon me real quick.
I'm just gonna pay him back. And check this out.
He did that in front of her husband. So there's that.
Oh, well, it's good. She seems to be a little different.
It's a little different, but. It's different.
Is it though? She is. Here's the difference.
Here's the difference. Please tell me how it's different.
Her husband was like where you are, right? I was about to say, her husband wasn't right there. Right, I'm sorry.
Oh, he was right there. But she turned to him and said, you know I got to do this right.
And didn't really wait for it, yes.
Okay, so he didn't ask for permission and she did.
So that is a difference.
I'm not saying one is better or worse.
I'm just saying they're different.
Because I think it's a little, I couldn't walk up, on stage you could get caught up in the moment.
But grabbing somebody.
On a carpet.
On a carpet.
Pre-planned.
Pre-planned in front of the spouse to me is a tougher sell.
I wouldn't do either. I think you should kiss people with consent.
She would have got slid. That's all I was thinking was like, I don't know what y'all talking about.
My girl was watching. She was like, that would have been her ass.
We would have fucked that whole carpet up. What would you have done, bro? AJ and Brody's pimp hands a little stronger, I think.
How Georgina Chapman handled it? She came up and took the gum from him. That is not what he just asked you.
He didn't ask you nothing about Georgina Chapman. That was his woman.
That's not what he said. I'm saying that if you're on the carpet with your dude who happens to be an actor, hypothetically, old girl walks over, grips him up and gives him a kiss, turns to you and says, you know I'm going to do this, right? Gives him a kiss.
How do you react? She would have got slid. Thank you.
Thank you. She would have got slid.
Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah, she would have got slid. Yeah, but y'all didn't see the interaction.
She went up to stage to take his gum in her bare hand. Like, she's with it.
She's with the shits. Adrian's got that shit a lot.
No, no, no. Let's actually say it in a different way.
He threw his gum at her. That's true.
He could have fucking swallowed it. He really could have.
He could have done a lot of different things. And then he got up there and he gave like a six minute fucking acceptance speech.
Told them to shut the fuck up when they started to play the music. And then, I mean, I really like Adrian Brody as an actor, but that was.
He's the man. I think all this shit sounds like he's the man.
Yo, shorty. Hold that.
And I want it back when I come on. Don't throw it away.
Does Holly have a book coming out or something? No. I was wondering the same thing.
Why won't Holly? I don't want her to. Them mirrors looked amazing.
She looked phenomenal. She looked phenomenal.
She's beautiful. She's a beautiful woman.
That's been my whole life. That ain't enough.
That's nothing new. Yeah.
Like, she should sit down now. She's on a press run.
For the lube? Sit down. For the lube.
Did the lube get itself out? She has... soap? She has a company called Respin.
Okay. And it's basically about health and wellness, but now she's added a component to it for women's sexual health and wellness.
Man, we skipping the shit. When these chicks turn 50, 51, 52, something clicks.
Something click. And they don't know that we could see it.
What do you mean? What's the click? I follow them. I follow them.
Go ahead. Use your words.
Expound though. I'm letting them do it.
Pussy. Yeah, that pussy get to purring differently than because you That shit like a It's like a wounded cat.
And because you've aged and experienced and you've lived, so you know people and you just have a different view than you did in your 30s and 40s. I don't want to, it's not, what's the word I'm looking for? I'll sum it up.
There's a word that I'm looking for. You give less fucks.
That ain't what you're saying.
You ran out of fucks to give.
That ain't what he's saying.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You give less fucks.
There's a way to act.
You say give more fucks, baby.
There's a way to act.
There's a way to act.
I got a lot more.
That's a pro move right there.
Y'all are fucked up, okay?
I think a person should act
a certain way at a certain age.
No, it's true.
And it's a Hollywood clique of them.
It is.
And I'm no longer talking about Holly.
I'm no longer talking about Holly. I don't know her personally to be able to speak about her.
But she has that baby powder on her. I agree.
There's a few people that went to Sephora and picked that up. I'm going to do some fucking, and a lot of it, eyeliner.
I don't care who it is. I don't care if that guy is married.
I don't care if that guy is in a long term relationship. I'm beautiful.
And because I'm beautiful I can do what I want. They at my beck and call and I'm on it.
This still sounds like salute to Adrian Brody to me. It is.
You know, listen. He's the flop.
He's the man. Okay, but I'm interested to know who's in this clique that you described.
I would never, man. I was about to say, if you take that rat poison, that ain't...
Man, I would never. I wouldn't even let you.
Yeah, come on. What's wrong with her? I can name a good seven of them.
You You just tell me off camera. It's fine.
Think more of us up here. Did you guys take anything from any of the performances? Doja Cat killed.
Doja, yeah. She smoked bad shit.
She got it off. That chick, Ray, is phenomenal.
But I went and listened to her albums. They are using her way wrong.
What do you mean? Her voice is incredible. Yes.
Her albums are like some dance pop shit. Yeah.
Is it your fault? It's almost like, you know what it's like? A Star is Born with Lady Gaga. Like how she comes out singing with these kind of shallow and shit like that.
And then when the industry gets their hands on her, they turn her into an R&B artist with all the fucking weird wigs and shit like that. It's Christina Aguilar.
No, it's Pink. In the early stages.
No, what it is, it's Pink. Pink started as R&B.
Yeah, I remember them days. And then that shit was whack as fuck.
And then she comes out being who she really actually is. And that's why she's been a huge success because she's authentic now.
Did we find out why Ariana Grande is Benjamin Button? Like why she's like infant sizing? I don't know. Like why does she look six now? I didn't want to say nothing because they said she might have.
It might be healthy. She might have some health issues.
Her and Cynthia bodied that intro. They did.
I like their camaraderie too. It's fun to watch.
You could tell it was genuine. Ariana Grande kissed her hand and was holding.
You know what I mean? It wasn't some studio shit, but I guess you've been working on a major motion picture with somebody. You might fucking hate each other.
It didn't show on built that up. It ain't show on that stage.
No, no, no, no. I'm saying you're absolutely right in what you're saying.
They really do seem to like each other. You can be on a picture with somebody and fucking hate them.
And I like the way that Ariana kind of... Pays reverence to her? Do your thing.
Yeah, for sure. Like, I'm her, do your thing.
And really gave her the shine. Cynthia Erivo is fucking her.
No, she is, but... Not fucking her.
The emphasis was wrong. I was like...
It's super her. You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Wrong syllable. Right, right.
Sorry. Your Switzerland came out.
You said syllable. I hate your fucking...
Emphasis. You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Yeah. Oh, that's clever.
That was a syllable. For sure.
Syllable, but you put the emphasis on the wrong guy. Got it.
Okay. It's okay.
Got it. Takes a sting out when you gotta explain it, Joe.
Hey. You missed it.
Just miss it. Hey.
Get it later. Catch it later.
Zoe Sardana won. They on her ass.
Badly. They on her ass is all I know.
Zoe? Yeah. Yeah.
They said that she. Because she ain't black.
And she not Mexican. Dos razones.
And she not Mexican. One was the race thing.
And then two, some people was clowning because her husband was up there. You know, he took her last name.
So some people was fine and making jokes about that on. Wait, see, I didn't.
Now, that team missed me. Yeah, I only know that.
Her husband took her last name. Yeah, and she got a lot of money.
Marco. I only noticed because my wife sent it to me.
The balls on this lady. Oh, my wife sent it to you.
Yeah, and I was like, I wrote back, I don't know why you're sending me this. His name was Marco Perego.
Now he's Marco Saldana. Marco Perego, Okay, so she...
Oh, so they both kind of prairie names. Yeah.
You know, he had to... He didn't sound no tougher.
He had to take the last name. You know what I'm saying? When you're trying to come up here, he had to take the last name.
He had to take the last name. He'd take that.
Yeah, yeah. The green card goes faster.
I don't know. I don't know green cards go faster with Saldana.
A lot of money plus snappers. Exactly.
Might take it. He might take it.
Might take it. He didn't take her last name.
So why they mad at this lady? They said she's not black. It's number one.
They said that she played a black role that she's been downplaying. To them, she's been downplaying the roles that she played.
And they feel like she, you know, because she said she was not apologizing to the Mexicans and certain things.
They're just like, we don't like that.
What's the apology for? This all sounds like a headache.
I'm curious, because a lot of times
you'll have somebody,
fucking Angelina Jolie played Cleopatra.
Nigga.
It's been 17 black Moseses.
Thank you.
I mean, white Moses.
I know, I know.
Thank you.
We thought Moses was white until a certain time.
I thought Moses was white until a certain time.
Madonna is a Vita. Chicken nugget.
No, it's not chicken nugget. No, it's based on religion, you weird ass nigga.
Wait till you hear about Jesus, man. It's going to fuck your head up.
No, I know. Stop being fucked.
No, hold on. I don't have headphones on.
I go back and listen to a lot of shit you say. I'm listening clearly.
No. It's based off of the religion that you, you know.
Woolen hair. I understood.
I didn't understand. Heats like grass.
like grass I got that that's not whitey I got that as an adult when I got older or as a teenager they remixed the shit out of him yeah they did like Jennifer Lopez played Selena they was kind of tight too yeah right exactly well she did a great she did a great job and she paid homage she paid homage to Selena but if you to be mad about something, then stay mad about the same fucking thing. Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican.
She played Mexican. So what's the issue with Zoe? But she paid homage to them.
She paid homage to Selena. Who's saying that the other lady didn't pay homage? She's saying, I'm not going to be apologetic for winning a role and doing a role.
I did my job. Yeah, what the fuck? The beef to me ain't shouldn't be with Zoe..
Obviously, she's a proud Dominican. People say she doubled down on the Dominican part on the speech, too.
I'm the first Dominican to win this award and hopefully there'll be others. You're also black.
Was that the time to make the distinction and go into the whole history of Afro-Latina and the black experience? You have three minutes. You have three minutes.
So throw out the black. It's not that.
Hold on one second here. You have three minutes to thank everybody in your fucking life.
People who have contributed to you getting this role. People who have contributed to your fucking career for the last 30-something years, and then you have to say something profound and shit like that that relates to your family and your culture.
You have three minutes to like... Three minutes is a long time.
Do you know... That was like 30 seconds what you just said.
Afro-Latina takes three seconds. Do you know the ongoing issues between Dominican and black people? Yes.
Even Afro-Latinas and black people, how they say, I'm Dominican, and they sort of exclude the blood.
This has been going on for generations.
I've had a girlfriend of mine describe herself as a white Dominican.
I said, what the fuck is that?
Exactly.
That was the first time I'd ever heard the term before.
And a lot of us are aware of it.
You wouldn't be friends with the fucking white Dominican.
A lot of us are aware of it.
When I tell you who the fuck it was.
You wouldn't be friends with the white Dominican.
You would be. I would never speak to him again.
Yeah. I would never speak to him again.
A white Dominican around me. Is she legitimately white? No.
That thing was sitting. Her complexion is extremely light.
Lighter. But she has very dark features.
She had dark hair, dark eyebrows, dark eyes. She listen to Pac? Yes.
She live in Dykeman? No. I'm just trying to get...
She's a name. Fordham? Oh.
She's a name. Like, so, like, maybe I should not use the word, the term friend.
I'll use colleague. Because we work together.
Because every time you say the friend word. Yeah, it's like my man's, right? Okay, no.
So, anyways. She letting the chopper spray today.
Call back, call back, call back, call back. Call back.
Call back. She in a walking boot, nigga.
She in a bag around options off. She's a two legs, nigga.
No, so trust me, I understand the struggle, but it's just like, how do you really kind of like describe what that, and look at who she's talking to. Yeah, we grew up in a lot of times we grew up in the same neighborhood.
You grew up in the same neighborhood. That makes it worse.
When you grow up in the same neighborhood, experience the same struggles. You know, you see this person every day.
You see these people every day and they say, yo, they don't identify with you. I'm not black.
I think it's confusing if you don't mind me interjecting. You can interject.
When you do nationality versus ethnicity. Because you might go up there and say, yo, I'm from Queens.
Would it be wrong for people to say, but what about Haiti or Jamaica? And they will have a right to say that. And here's the last thing.
Because my history... I dare him not say he from Haiti when he get up there and went.
Because I got... People take that person.
He's not. I got attacked a lot by not representing my Haitian side a lot.
Like, that's how people take it. Yo, you always represent Jamaica.
You're going to Jamaica. What about Haiti? Your mother's Haitian.
So people feel it's very sensitive. It was different when you was young, too.
Man, let the lady get up there and fucking say it. What do you mean it was different? When you was young? About Haitians? Just say black.
All I want to do is say black. Here's a good example.
Here's a good example. It's cool.
She's going to be in a Telemundo 9 a.m. news.
Hola! Hello, Telemundo! You want to rep that Dominican show? We can change the course of all this shit. I thought you was black for years.
Me too. But also, she's representing like a Spanish-speaking film.
You know what I'm saying? She did her thing, yo. Like, and also...
So black people shouldn't have a Spanish-speaking. No, it has nothing to do with that.
What it has to do with... Can you imagine if she just said black...
Can you imagine how the Dominican community would be? Well, we didn't say just say that. Just say Afro-Latina.
We didn't say just say that either. That would be wrong.
Just say Afro-Latina. Okay.
And I'm not getting all heavy on her per se, but I understand why people feel a way, especially when these same people sometimes get black roles and they trade on blackness when it's convenient. Oh, like Nina Simone? No, like Zoe Zaldana.
No, she plays Nina Simone. She played Nina Simone.
She played the shit with Aston Kutcher when Bernie Mac was her dad. She was a black girl.
But she also played Nina Simone. That's what she said.
I'm just saying. Wait, is this the girl that's in Lioness? Yes.
Come on, you know the damn Lioness ain't Dominican. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I know God damn. The lioness ain't Dominican.
What are her parents? Her mother's Puerto Rican and Dominican. Her father is Dominican.
So she's 75% Dominican. The lioness ain't Dominican, though.
So she's Dominican and Puerto Rican, right? Yes. So why do y'all want her to run up there and yell she's black again? Because those are ethnicities.
Dominicans are black. And those are not racist.
But she's pointing. I get it.
I don't see nothing wrong with this now. I don't think she's wrong.
I think the people criticizing her are wrong. Same.
Same. But that's based off experience, man.
It's deeper than that. I'm not disagreeing with you.
It's extremely deeper than that just to say you're wrong for representing your ethnicity. Yeah.
No, it's deeper than that. Beg go ahead, Mark.
All I'm saying is people can make choices about how they identify. I agree.
And I'm not begging nobody to be black if they don't want to identify as black. I agree.
However, if you're getting jobs, for example, no white woman would get a job playing Nina Simone. But they would say.
Hollywood does. No white woman in 2025.
I heard a rumor. Check this shit out.
Let me lay this way.
My point is, they let her get certain jobs.
They let certain Latinos get certain jobs because at that moment they identify as black.
Right?
And then if you identify as black to get that job, and then later on down the road, you throw the black away, I see why people feel frustrated.
That's all I'm saying.
If you don't be black, don't be black, but then don't be Nina Simone.
She got a lot of shit for being Nina Simone though. She got a lot of shit.
Yeah. She apologized for it.
Yeah. And I don't think she should have to.
I don't either. And since then.
And that's all I just. If them niggas gave me and you $10 million to play Minuto I'm going to get up that bitch and I'm about to fuck out of here.
What?
In theory, that sounds good,
but no, you wouldn't.
No, you wouldn't.
Who?
I believe him.
He absolutely fucking would.
He wouldn't. He wouldn't.
I think he fucking would.
What?
What?
Yo, she's an actress, my nigga.
She's an actress.
So a lot of times,
actresses push themselves
to do different roles
and to embody certain shit. So you don't have a white man playing being Malcolm X in a film? No, I don't want to see that.
But again, what I'm saying is we've embraced that mad times. What's Batman? The latest Batman.
A punk? Dark Knight. A fucking French white man.
We're not doing that. Robert Pattissy.
Robert Pattinson? Robert Pattinson? Bell? Christian Bell. He played Moses.
Like, dog, we've had 15 white Moseses, and don't nobody fucking Angelina Jolie might be the whitest chick in America. She played Cleopatra.
That ain't the same. Why is it not? Because a lot of America still thinks Moses is white and Cleopatra is white.
That's different than playing somebody as a black person. And she got dimples.
And a lot of Americans think Dominican is Dominican and they do not associate them with black. And that's why I gave the Malcolm X example.
When you know somebody's black, we would say no. So as we start to identify people by their races, I'm just saying, do we draw lines? But I had a whole other question about something different.
Did Conan go too far with the Kendrick Drake joke? That was hope Drake joke? That was hilarious. Because I thought it was hilarious, but some people felt away.
A lot of people. They felt away.
How'd you feel? Actually, let me ask you because I know as a... I think that...
As a what? As a what? As a Drake's opinion. As a person's opinion, I'd like to know about...
There you go. No, I think that...
I think that that's where we are. I think that...
And I think that that's a part of what old boy is talking about. Like, yo, this shit is in the mainstream America.
It's the Oscars and they ridiculing the stupid motherfucker for being a pedophile. And for those that don't know, the joke was that Kendrick said, I mean, that Conan said we're halfway through.
We're halfway through the Oscars. It's about that time when we refer to Drake.
For Kendrick Lamarck to come out and call Drake a pedophile. Right.
Which I thought was a fucking hilarious joke. Just as a joke, I thought it was hilarious.
I'm lawyered up. Yeah, that that said, I'm lawyered up.
Yeah, I'm lawyered up. Right.
I laughed for a long time when he said it. Me too.
But I also think that Conan O'Brien is borderline like... Acceptable? No, he's like one of them.
He's really good. He's amazing.
He's really, really, really good. I said acceptable.
Yeah. Oh, all right.
Exceptional. Like, I view him like that.
And part of that for me was even that joke, right? Before he says, I'm lawyered up, you don't really know how to take that. Right.
It's open to a million different interpretations, which is why I thought it was great. And we're saying Conan O'Brien, but the black dude that wrote the joke has been on Twitter ever since.
Right. Defending himself because people have been on his ass.
Yep. Hey, why did you write that joke about Drake? But he said, hey, I wrote jokes the other way when it comes to predators.
I got the tweet. I can find it, but who cares? And honestly, that joke to me is as much about a criticism of Kendrick as it is this a Drake.
It's like Kendrick is... It's a criticism that Kendrick keeps doing this.
Like, damn, another one? So I didn't as a balanced funny brilliant joke I just thought it was a funny joke I didn't from Drake's point of view I'm a little sick of hearing my name attached to the word pedophile which I get I get it but this is what happens when something that happens in hip hop grows to be that big all the brands everybody take it a little further a little further. They took it further.
You took it here. They took it further.
He didn't want to do that. Freeze.
Hey, tell me what he said, Freeze. I just said it.
Tell me what he said. You missed it.
I said it. Why is that so funny? It's always funny.
It's always funny. He took it further, Freeze.
He took it further. He took it all the way to Asuka.
He took it all the way to Asuka. He didn't want to do it.
He didn't want to do it. I told him.
He didn't want him to do it. Nah, nah, nah.
He's following through. I told him.
I told him. That's homeboy's point.
That's his point. Like, yo, my name is being associated with a pedophile In front of the fucking Oscars dog Yeah All the biggest fucking advertisers in the world But had it went the other way he would have been calling Kendrick A life beater so I mean here we go Oh man Is it Stacy Hey Nokia is fighting for his life out there.
I'll give this better found shit. Hey, it helps to have a little slap in the tongue.
That shit doing a lot. That shit moving out there.
Take it back. I like that shit.
That shit moving out there. Take it back.
I still like that record. Take that shit back.
They're all the pansies, but it's working for them. Nah, it's moving.
It's working for them. I ain't no hater.
Nigga, remember what you said before? I ain't no hater. Clean it up.
What did I say before? I don't think you liked it. I don't like it now.
But it's moving. And it can grow on you.
Look what you just did. Is it Keyshawn? Hey.
No, I don't fuck with that song. My joints off that album are
Deeper,
Give Me A Hug,
The Houston Shit,
Crying in Houston,
Rain in Houston,
whatever,
and Something for Whatever.
But you can identify
those four songs,
special records.
You can identify
when something is doing well.
I can see why it's doing well.
I see why it's moving,
but UMG ain't paying for it.
So, I mean, that's coming out of somebody else's pocket.
It ain't going to be around long.
You got to pay for songs to stick around.
No matter how many of y'all like it, you have to pay for songs to be around.
Okay.
But, I like the song.
I don't give a fuck.
So, Lotto did it in the car. She danced to it.
No, I didn fuck. So Lotto did in the car.
She danced to it.
No, I didn't see what Lotto did in the car, nigga.
And I did see it, but don't say that to me on air, nigga.
You didn't see what Lotto did in the car.
Not like I was saying.
Like, she representing, man.
Listen, they doing what they doing, man.
They doing what they doing.
And I'm not mad.
I'm not mad.
Hey, everybody that's rocking with some shit, rock with it. I ain't the guy that's trying to convince you that a song you like ain't it.
It's subjective. Like what you like.
I like what I like. That's not what I'm going to on the project.
But hey, what do you need right now? Salute. That's not what you try to do? What? I don't know.
No, my taste is too weird for me to try to get other people liking what I like and don't like what I don't. No, that's not the beauty of music.
Antoine. Why? Why you say that? You trying to shoot a shot? Nah.
Go ahead. Me? I'm fucking...
That's how I fuck my leg up shooting shots. Yeah, I'm about to say bad time.
Bad time, nigga. I'll do what Imani did to me.
I'll come just fucking stomp on that little walking boot you got. I don't want no smoke, brother.
You know why you corny? You tried to swag out the walking boot with the Sergio. You are a corny, old school nigga.
Why just? Because look, stop, stop, stop, stop. Look.
That's what I did? Look. You needed something that was going to fit on top of the walking boot the right way.
Look what you did. What's the right way, nigga? Sweatpants.
You know the right way. Stop.
You look good, man. You look like...
This guy is nuts. You got it.
You look like in 89. Yeah, the gravy, the gravy.
You look like in 89, my nigga. Stupid, son.
Something's wrong with your brain, yo. When you made your first million at 29, how fast did you lose it? Very fast.
Come on, get off me. You got to watch.
You're going to lose some pimp shit. Pimp man.
Very fast. Pimp man.
What's very fast? How many years? Three, four. I think very fast.
It was fastest. Because the markets fell.
So you didn't spend it. It's just the way you did it.
I spent it. Oh, Not spending it.
Chart house every day. Gotcha.
St. Barks.
And that's back when the chart house was impressing, bitches. And that's back when the chart house...
Chart house. Every day.
What? Your number might be in the fours. I ain't gonna lie.
Your number might... I meant my bad, fives.
No, not fives. Not fives.
Fives, dog? Wilt did it.
Wilt was the man.
So were you.
He was the man.
Oh, my brain was somewhere else.
He was the man, nigga.
Not the five.
Never.
Five digits.
Don't listen to him, dog.
Wait, five digits or five hundreds?
Five digits.
Oh, oh.
Are you crazy?
Five hundreds?
That's what I was like.
I was about to say that to you.
Are you crazy?
He's somewhere in the thousands.
I don't know where, but I think it might be closer to the five than it is the three digits. That's my own belief.
I'm not forcing nobody else to think nothing. That's my own shit.
Joe, do you know what 5,000 is? Yes, Antoine. 10,000.
Yes. That's a lot.
That's a lot. I'm 49 years old.
Fucking a long time, King. Yo, what? You've been doing that every day, nigga.
Like, chill. Seven times a week.
You have to put your dick in a walking boot. My dick will be in a boot.
You got to put apple cider on that shit, nigga. Apple cider vinegar.
Know what's funny about this? All right, I'm wrong. 3,000.
You just drew you... You just drew that number? How about I say, did you roll the calculator? Yeah.
At 3,000, you gotta pop six women a day for your whole life. Is that true? I just did the math.
That don't sound true to me. I just did the math.
Wait, Ish. It's 365 days.
1,800 would be... If you did six a day for one year, it'd be 1,800.
49 years times 365 days. It's 17,885 days.
Divide it by 3,000. It's 5.96 women a day.
Nah, I think you don't. Yeah, something's wrong with your math.
That's not right. Something's wrong with your math.
It's the opposite. You should have divided where you multiply.
No, it's not. Let's check.
Dang, that nigga's doing crazy. But this is in is crazy.
This is so sick of that. Because again, if you did six a day in one year, you would have done 1,800 already.
365. Oh, you're right.
You're right. Damn, bitch.
Let's go, man. That's how much he been fucking.
Look. Look.
All right, so 5,000 now. He's like, wait, I did fuck 5,000 with him.
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19 point comeback the other night in Miami, which is fucking South Madison Square. I'll take Hero in that for more than 18.
Alright right. We got the Mavs and the Bucks.
Mavs, Bucks.
Shout out to Kyrie prayers.
Yeah.
My prayers are with you, Kyrie, man.
That was devastating.
That's my man.
One of my favorite people in the world.
Shout out to Kyrie.
Yeah, just a good man.
Good person.
Good human.
Great brother.
Give me Dame Lillard in that for more than 21. right we have the thunder and the grizzlies oh thunder sga oh thunder give me give me sga give me sga for more than 26 all right and uh the kings and the nuggets uh give me the joker give me the joker for more than nine boards there we go all right simple as that don't forget to download the app right this second and use promo code jbp to get 50 instantly when you play your first five dollar lineup i repeat if you download the app right this second and use promo code jbp you get 50 instantly instantly after your first $5 lineup.
So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. Alright, before we go any further, I want to shout out to my Ramadan niggas out there.
Shout out. I want to shout out to y'all for being strong, being disciplined, getting in that bag.
My barber came over the other day, almost fainted, cutting my hair.
At the end of the cut was like, yo, is this just like a store?
I can get some snacks.
Anything to fill me up on the ride home.
I was like, God damn, you going through it this Ramadan.
Why you didn't offer him snacks?
Why you didn't offer him snacks? Why y'all assume I have snacks? You got something to eat in your house. You just told us about how much season.
Yo, you really did have a bad month? Yeah, dude. I let you hold something.
I just fucked up. Yeah, I did.
No, but hold on. You know what it is? Would you let me hold something? I'm just some water now, some snacks.
I had a bad month. Wait, hold on.
Hold on, real quick. Would you let me hold something? Of course I would.
It's different from when your little Elizabeth friends want to hold something. And you was on my case.
I know it's different. When I want to hold something, it ain't going to be the same as your little West Orange friends.
I know, because they might not give it back. You got to give it back.
When I come, pause. I need pause.
I need a few. I agree with you.
Niggas on my case about the 350. Nigga, like, I started to think my man's struggling a little bit,
but then I had to think that it's all part of his plan to distract us.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, because, you know, we've been coming at him for the past couple of weeks on here
about, you know, him showing out and him not being generous, which he is.
So then now he wants to double down.
All right, what's up with that?
On the flip side, you had a good month, huh? I huh i did have a good month yes how much you made last month uh i'm 46. nice from the room money...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.
70. No.
I'm just saying, like, I made 46. Just working hard.
What's your primary source? My primary source? I can't answer that. Why you don't ask them like you asked them the first time? What I ask them? How you made that? Yeah.
Just working? Working hard, filming? How you made that come off a little different. It was your primary source.
I was trying to be more respectful. Yeah, I mean, just working hard, filming, and trying to figure it out.
You know, I put double work in because my plan was to take the whole month off. That's my plan.
To go to Trinidad. Yeah, to Trinidad and just handle some business because it's me
and him going back and forth, playing around.
But you know, shit was looking too
sweet. Shit looking
good out there, my boy.
My boy.
I fixed the whole studio, nigga.
46?
That's a good month.
That's a great month.
It's a great month, man.
God damn. Stop it.
It's all work and dedication. That money is gone anyway.
You need to teach niggas how to do that. Yeah.
Yeah. He niggas.
I am niggas. Yeah, I'm niggas.
I'm niggas. No, no, but it's not that.
I need some help. And I was just telling Ish, I said, yo, one of the accountants charge $500 an hour.
Like, he even includes email. If he responds to an email, he's just some crazy shit that I'm learning in real time.
Yeah. And, um...
Oh, you don't say. That's actually...
I didn't know that. I thought niggas just...
That's literally the debate they was having two weeks ago. Oh, for real? Verbatim.
Mm-hmm. Oh, they were.
Yeah, so when I... I thought that, you know, once you hire them, they communicate with you, but you But now they charging By the email If they have to respond to you He's charging He's on the clock Per phone call Per piece of court I didn't Yeah so If they pick up your phone Your phone call Yes You get in charge for that And they call you on weekends And week They don't mind They'll call you at night Yeah But you be in charge for that time Of course 46 That's great though man And of insurance costs, too, I'm sure.
Huh? I would just imagine when you said the insurance costs a little higher. Yes, yes, yes.
Well, here's the thing. And this is why.
You have insurance. I do.
Hold on. He's just answering like a nigga who don't.
I'm about to respond. He's like, that's a good idea.
No, no, no. Let me respond.
You like the crack jokes. I'm not cracking.
Let me respond. Please.
They was about to cancel my insurance because it was up for a renewal and I didn't pay. I kept pushing it all, pushing it all because I was good with that with them.
So there's somebody new there that told me, yo, you got to pay what you got to pay or your insurance is about to be canceled. Yeah.
Because they off the strength earlier the month when I was not doing too good. They said, yo, I said, I don't got it right now.
Can you send it? You know I'm good for it good for it they sent it I gave it to my landlord I just totally forgot the room was happening but you know I paid it I paid it two days I paid it two days I just wanted nothing to happen like some crazy unexpected shit could happen like a brawl could break out on set somebody get stolen somebody get punched in the face stop it you know what I mean next thing you know I paid it two days ago okay solid that's all damn I'll get money up here yo't get money up here yet. Yo, Mel, why did you send me a DM? They eat it.
They eat it. You sent me a DM from...
They eat it. They eat it.
They eat it. Do you run the Hot and Bother page? Is that you that runs it? The Instagram.
Because you sent me a DM about wanting to live and health. So I don't know if you were talking to me through it.
It was a video about wanting to live. One of her assistants was cracking on you? No, it wasn't cracking on me, but it was like, when I read it, I'm like, Dad, Mel really want me to get healthy.
I think it was me. That was one of the Spaces girls.
No, it was me. Stop it.
That wasn't nobody. Stop it.
Spaces. Does she get for free? The team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a team of free.
Intern, intern. She got intern.
Intern. I did that paid intern move too.
I paid me a gas.
Pay intern the shit.
Pay intern the shit.
I paid me a gas.
Come on.
Gas.
No.
That was me.
No, that wasn't you.
It was me.
No, it was me.
Okay.
It was me.
I promise.
It was me.
I ain't going to lie.
The way you pull it off, you find a way to get the free shit.
What?
What did you tell him?
What did you promise him?
Hey, hey, hey.
I'll bring you to the JVP. I'll bring you up there.
I flipped it. He went over from the networks.
Mail the network. We're going to bring you right on up.
Mail the network. Mail the network.
Mail be hustling this shit out of her. She ain't, she getting it done.
You hear me? Look, then she make this little stupid face. Look, then she make this little stupid ass face.
Gotta love it. Gotta love it.
All right, Saturday night was the fight. Yes, sir.
Saturday night was the fight. Javante Tank Davis versus Lamont Roach Jr.
I owe that man an apology. We do.
I mean, I ain't speaking for y'all. I don't know what anybody else said.
I came in here with my bold ass and was like, I would like for Tank to fight somebody that I know because I'm a casual fan. That was what you said, yeah.
Yeah. So I owe that man an apology.
He certainly gained my respect. Really great fight.
The best fight I've ever seen against Tank. I think he won.
I do too. I think he won.
If they're counting the knockdown. You got to count it.
You can't count it. Why not? It's not the rules.
What's the rules? The rule is if you take a knee as a result of some other circumstance outside of being punched or hit that forced you to take a knee, it doesn't count as a knockdown. Like an equipment malfunction or something like that, it don't count as a knockdown.
But he got punched. He didn't.
So when they showed it, they showed the super slow-mo, the two punches that he threw missed him. Right before that, he got hit.
But the two, no. So he looked at the referee, he looked at the referee and took a knee.
He didn't, like, it wasn't a punch that forced him to take the knee. Do you understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.
And they showed it a super slow-mo. That's open for interpretation is what I'm saying.
That's true. And there's a lot of AI-generated videos with that because they're saying that at one point he turned his head and the punch missed, but I didn't...
He got hit. He got hit.
Bro, they showed the super slow-mo. And then those two jabs.
I've seen them a little time. You're talking about two different punches, yeah.
I'm talking about the hit before those two check jabs. Right.
And then he looked at the ref for a while, and then he took the knee. And that's what makes the rule interesting because based on the rule, the fact that you didn't get hit with them two jabs means you can take the knee because the jabs didn't cause you to take the knee.
But your point is well taken, which is you can still be dizzy from the punch. It was four punches thrown.
It was four punches thrown. He threw a hard-ass hook that missed.
Then he hit him with another semi hook. Then he threw two
jabs that missed.
It's a possibility. When Tank hit
Ryan with that
liver shot, he punched him.
My man took about three steps back and then was
like, whoa. You know what I'm saying?
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying it's open
to interpretation like Mark said. My thing is
I don't think he lost. I'm not hanging my hat
on that knee either, by the way. I think
he just lost. Nah, they gave
I think it was a draw. I'm not hanging my hat on that knee either by the way.
I think he just
lost. Nah they gave
I think it was a draw. Because they gave
two of the judges gave Roach
the 12th round.
And that 12th round wasn't really Roach's
in my opinion. So I think
Tank can say something. See I read the opposite.
I read that Tank got
two of the judges gave Tank the 12th
and if he didn't get those two judges in the 12th, he loses. See, I read it, but they said they gave Roach the 12th.
So we'll check it. We'll check it.
Well, Tank won the last round. To me.
And two of the judges gave Roach the last round. Those two judges would have gave Tank the last round.
Fact check that. We can check.
Fact check that. What we're watching in real time is how the audience is, I don't want to say they're getting tired of Tank, but they, you know, they, they, they, I want to say tired because I fuck with Tank.
No, tired is right. I took a nap during them first five rounds.
No, but they, they, they, I was dozing in and out. They were booing, they were booing Tank.
They were booing Tank. They started to boo Tank based off his excuse about the grease in his eye and they were booing him.
He looked differently than we're used to seeing.
Regardless of what you think of the outcome.
You think he's using the step or you think it was just a bad night?
I mean, I think
that everybody...
I'm talking about two separate things.
I'm not taking nothing away from Roach.
I'm saying the tank that I saw on
display that night was not
like the tank I've seen in previous
fights. That's what I'm saying.
That could be from a bad night. He looked frustrated in areas that I'm not used to seeing him frustrated in.
I've seen a million clips that say he was beefing with Coach Cal in the corner. So there could have been a few things going on.
I just know that I'm not used to seeing him like that. Word.
I was just saying, I got the official scorecard up, and two of the judges did give Roach the 10th round. I mean, excuse me, the 12th round.
I don't think Roach won the 12th round. He didn't win the 12th round.
So that's the thing. Like, they saying that they would have gave.
And those are the two judges that had to even score. Had to even fight.
So if those two judges give Tank the 12th round, it's a unanimous decision.
I think,
what I told Corey,
we had an argument off camera,
I think Tank gets hit a lot.
Every fight he fights,
he gets hit a lot.
What happens is,
he finds a way
in the 7th or 8th round
to hit somebody
with some clean,
hard shit
that puts him down.
And a lot of those fights,
he be losing on the scorecard.
He just be knocking niggas out.
So in this particular fight, he couldn't knock Roach out. Roach landed, I mean, went the distance, and it was a pretty even fight.
I think Tank might have got the edge, in my opinion, but it was a real clear fight. He gets hit a lot.
If he didn't lose it, he didn't win it. I think the draw is fine.
I think the draw is fine. I'm not mad at a draw.
Me either. I'm not mad at that.
Can we acknowledge how we thought that this would be a bum fight? Not on Tank's behalf, but just like we didn't know who the guy was, and we were off our seats. We were on the edge.
Lux was at my house, and I was sitting there like, we were like this, oh, shit. I thought it was a good fight.
It was a real good fight. I thought it was a real, real good fight.
Shout out to the fans. I'm sorry, Ish.
One of the things I like with Tank, because we criticize people like Shakur. We criticize people when they want to box, right? When they strategically box.
Tank kind of gives us what the fans want, which is a brawl. So then niggas was dissing him when he was brawling with a brawler and he wasn't dominating him.
Which one do we want? We want a boxing match or you want a brawling match? You get what I'm saying? And I think that he typically brawls. He gets hit a lot.
He just hits harder. Those niggas was hitting the shit out of me.
Yeah, he just hits harder. He was taking some hits.
Yeah. From round six, seven on, that was a match.
It was a slow fast. Yeah.
That was an absolute match. Great fight.
I got a problem with how late them fights be starting. Me too.
Me too.
This shit started
real late.
I don't stay up.
The fight started
at 11.45.
Yeah.
I be bad.
Why do they do that?
It's over after one.
Is that a business move?
No, that was in the east.
It was in the west coast.
No, I know,
but usually the fights
are on the west coast,
so it starts around
like 8, 9 o'clock
over there.
You niggas is in
Brooklyn.
Get this shit cracking.
Right.
We in Brooklyn.
Start the shit at 6. Get the undercard going at 6 so we can see this fight before bedtime.
I agree. That's a good point.
Again, all the respect in the world to Lamont Roach. But again, them saying Lamont Roach 1 would have bigger implications than just on boxing.
How so? Because Tank is the biggest draw right now, right? Indeed. Yes.
Like nobody near in sight. Nowhere near it.
And I think he's the what is it? What did I read this morning? Not he's the last American fighter, but he's the dominant American fighter. Like a lot of the other fighters have signed deals where they're in Abu Dhabi or over here or wherever.
I'm not fact checking right now, but I read something that says Shakur and a bunch of other niggas fuck with just non-American places. So if you're taking it from the biggest draw in America,
then nah, I don't know.
You're saying that still might be signed on American soil.
Business.
All business.
Big business.
It's too many things that are affected.
Yeah, we can't let that happen.
Sorry.
I'm with that.
I mean, we say it about other sports.
It's true. You're a fool.
I'm going to let that happen. I'm with that.
That's our brand at that point. Shout to Tank, man.
They announced all night, yo, we have reached a record for the number of people even allowed in the Barclays tonight. Damn.
They kept saying that. They haven't been to Barclays a million times.
Like, we're at 19-7-25. They was packed up in there.
For a boxing match. They were in there, too.
For a boxing match. So, and I don't know another fighter that could put him in a stadium like that.
What did y'all think about his hair grease excuse for the knee? I think he believed it. And that's what's important.
They showed it, yeah. And Amanda, she came out and said that she had a similar situation.
Same thing happened to her. Yeah, Amanda Serrano.
Oh. Yeah, she said it happened to me before.
She said that it burns your eyes. It happened to me before when I was getting to Beijing.
Beijing starts dripping in your eye now. It's like, oh, shit.
Or when her grease starts dripping in your eye.
She crazy.
Her grease?
She on top.
Shit.
It's like that.
You a porn star.
You would have been in the Playboy Mansion.
Never.
That probably was your wish as a kid.
Never.
I can't wait to go there with those snow bunnies.
They charge.
With all due respect.
To get in there?
After watching everybody at the basketball court.
What's up?
She going to be on top.
She going to be on top.
Word.
Respectfully.
Don't be.
Myself included.
I said word.
Myself included.
Respect niggas family.
That's the first thing I said to him.
I said, damn, son, you can't even.
I was like, damn, son, you can't even get into your shit no more.
What'd you say?
It's a wrap.
She going to be on top.
He's like, no, honey.
She's on top.
My hip work. I get a little rope.
You know what I mean? That's not. What'd you say? It's a wrap.
You're going to be on top. He's like, nah, I hit work.
I get a little rope,
you know what I mean?
That's what my Sunday was.
A little rotator cuff.
That's fucked up.
Our partners deserve better,
but nah.
Nah,
I felt horrible.
I felt horrible.
If Lamont,
if Lamont,
yo,
you good?
Hold up,
are you cool?
Oh,
no,
I'm great.
Are you cool?
I caught you making
that little stupid face at us.
I caught you making
that little stupid face at us.
Listen,
I'm just glad that,
you know,
like the,
it's,
Thank you. Oh, no, I'm great.
Are you cool? I caught you making that little stupid face at us. I caught you making that little stupid face at us.
Listen, I'm just glad that, you know, like, the collective delusion has lifted. The cloud has lifted, and now you guys are, you know.
We're in our place. Yeah.
We're in our place. Yeah, yeah.
That's fair. It's cute.
It's cute. It's cute.
You were saying. I said, look, if Lamont Roach Jr.
does well in his next fights Man we got a A new star You know He's tough He's fire I mean he made a statement From DC What's his record? I don't follow boxing much He got a good record He got a good record Okay So this isn't like a Styles makes fights thing Where like You got one loss Okay He was trying to do He was doing a shoulder roll And I see that Tank figured out the double jab with the left or whatever he was doing to get past the shoulder roll. People can't do it like Floyd.
Floyd. People can't do it like Floyd.
Yeah. People can't do it like Floyd.
Yeah. Then that's the other problem right.
With all due respect I ain't just gonna throw the star word around so loosely. True.
Like, it take a lot outside of boxing to do what Tank has done, what Floyd did, what Pacquiao did. What De La Hoya did.
Tank is that nigga, yeah. Like, when you start getting into the box office aspect, Lamont Rhodes probably got the boxing.
You need that other part. But he's never had an opportunity to do it.
So we don't know if you can do it until you get the shot. Dog, I feel like even at the weigh-in and the interviews, when they're at the table and they're doing the interviews, all that shit leading up to the fight even kind of lacked some of the normal flair that tank normally has.
I think that's because I know you. We've been fighting since we was 10.
They both from the same... He's like, yo, your mom is here.
Come on, I'm not going to do that in front of your mom. It's like, we not getting this.
I ain't trying to kill you. And Lamont is like, they asking him some of the juicy shit.
Yo, in an interview, you said Tank wasn't going to knock you out and you was going to destroy him. What do you think about that? And he gave the logical man answer.
Like, the fuck you want me to say? Right. That's what they asked me.
I'm fighting this man. Like, how would you like me to answer that? That makes sense.
It's not so box office. That ain't what boxing is for.
It's not so box office. Not when you're friends with somebody, Joe.
No, I think once you respect a nigga, once you've been in that ring for 12 rounds, that nigga hit hard. He wasn't no slouch.
He wasn't no chump. I got to respect him more.
I'm going to look like an idiot. Nigga, they started fighting each other dirty a little bit, nigga.
Yeah, nigga. They started getting mad at each other.
Tank do that a lot. We in war, nigga.
They were talking crazy to each other in the ring. Yo, what y'all think about the hairstylist coming out? Sit down.
It's not your time. Sit down somewhere.
I think she's lost a couple thousand dollars because that's the last time you'll do my hair,
you dummy,
just to get some fucking clap.
You are itty.
Shut the fuck up.
You shouldn't have had nothing to say.
Stupid.
I didn't use grease in that.
I would have came out.
Y'all put extra grease in that shit.
My bad.
It's my fault.
Blame me.
Hold him down.
Crazy stupid ass to get some clap.
Yeah, I would have just took a different angle.
Did y'all like his hair?
My bad, Tank.
I apologize.
We'll be right back. It's my fault.
It's my fault. It's my fault.
Hold him down. Crazy stupid ass to get some clothes.
Yeah, I would have just took a different angle.
Did y'all like his hair?
My bad, Tank.
I apologize.
Right.
I'll try to use some oil base next time.
Nigga, I've said all I should. Even if he was lying.
Right.
Yeah.
That ain't for you to say shit.
Support the lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's your job.
We need to bring back people's support in your life.
It ain't enough of that no more. These bitches got all the gadgets and the tricks and the iPhones and the iCloud linked to their phone and the iPad.
No, bring back when you just need it. Yo, you are.
Bring back. You good? You good? He's going to blow a gasket over here.
Bring back when you just need it. One friend to support the lie.
Yo, you know what they need to bring back? Yo, call her right now. Like, we don't even get that no more.
That was the one. Call her right now.
When Joe received a call and they were looking for Michael Paul, he came and saw like, something's going on my phone. They called me about Michael Paul.
Like, I'm a doctor. Like, his shit is tapped.
He know his shit's tapped. He can't.
His shit's tapped. They called me, Michael Paul Like I'm a doctor Like his shit is tapped
He know his shit's tapped
He can't
His shit's tapped
They called me
Asked me if I was available
To do a surgery
I knew they had to
I said you joking
I said yo
You sure
Yo
Cause I'll come up there
Yo my thumb a little
Fucked up
But I'm nice with the knife
I'm free
I'll come up there
And save somebody
John Q bitch
I owe it to humanity
Yeah nah
For real
Thank you. with the knife.
I'm free. I'll come up there and save somebody.
John Q, bitch. I owe it to humanity.
Yeah, no, for real. I owe it to humanity to try.
Great fight, though. Shout out to both of them.
Looking forward to a rematch. Hopefully they get a rematch.
I don't think he had a rematch clause. He did have a rematch clause.
He said it on Twitter. Really? Because Tank was like, and I'm pushing for the rematch fast.
And then Lamont was like, it's in there already. No, they both was like, yo, we should do it again.
No, no. Lamont said, it's in the contract already.
On Twitter. Because you wanted it in there.
So if you want a rematch, take the fucking rematch. Mm-hmm.
Right. Cool.
We'll see. Look, you know all that's going to do? Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
Run it back up. I'm going to push the price.
That's it. I'm going to push the price.
Now everybody's going to want to see the shit. Yeah.
It's going to push the price. You're going to be high.
It's going to 90 days. And now it's going to command Vegas.
Did that fight make you feel differently about what you thought of Tank versus Shakur? No. No.
Who would you have winning in that? I can't answer. It's hard because styles make fights, but I told me and Corey had this argument off camera.
I said that, see the way Roach was fighting? They was literally going toe to toe. Like, yo, Shakur's not going to do that.
Shakur's not trying to get hit. You get what I'm saying? So it's going to be a style thing.
If Shakur can hit him and move and hit him and move and hit him and move, he'll beat him in points. If Tank can land one of them monster hits that he be doing, then he'll knock him out.
But Tank can take punches. He got a chin, yo.
He take a lot of punches. punches He got a chin So I think that You never know
Because again
It's the style thing
The North, New Jersey in me
Will not allow me
To honestly answer that question
Word
That's my answer
There you go, Freez
Yo, you stupid, yo
There you go, Freez
I ain't gonna say that
I seen a lot of people
Giving Tank slack
For coming out
With Jim and Jewels
I'm from New York
So I can't get into that. I thought it was fly.
Why, though? Like, what is their... What's the connection? What's the critique? The critique is a lot of people feel like they've never seen Tank look like that, so they're saying bad juju was on them from Jim and Jewels.
Cam said it's bad energy when you out. He can't say that.
Then there's some other comedian niggas that have been saying, yo, why the fuck are you got these old young niggas? Whatever they were saying. Again, I'm from New York.
I can't rock with it. I was hype.
Yeah, you're saying. You just want to see it.
I was hype. I like that song.
Yeah. I like crunk music.
Get crunk. They're just going to keep getting that gym for looking young.
Yeah.
Like dressing young.
The chrome heart scarf.
Like, you can't win.
But that's his battling.
That's what he do.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Listen, my New York bias shows in Jim Jones' conversation.
So I'm leaving it.
So I'm leaving it, man.
That album is crazy, though.
It is really good. I really like to start.
So I'm leaving it, man. That album is crazy, though.
It is really good.
I really like to start to finish.
Yeah, it is.
All right, what else we got?
What else we got?
Why is Paul George on the board?
I just want to understand.
Oh, man.
Because Paul George last week.
Ski Mask Hall of Fame.
He might be the.
Yo, don't you wish for the days when all you had to complain about was Tobias Harris' contract? Remember that? And he killing. In Detroit.
He's doing well. I didn't want to lose to...
Paul George said that he's stopping his podcast to focus on winning a championship. Thanks.
And I thought that was Centel, but it wasn't. It wasn't.
He really said that. So the question for me, not to take it off of Paul George, because I think that's fair, is in general, should NBA players be allowed to have podcasts? While they're in season? While they're in season.
I don't like it. Or even while they're in play.
Yeah. Versus the ones that are retired right now.
I'm not a fan of the sports athletes having podcasts during season. I've never been a fan of it.
I stand with ice. I almost wanted to say really not if your team is doing bad.
I can't see how your conversation with the owner is going in that respect. Jalen Brunson makes it tough for me to have that argument because him and Josh Hart have a podcast that I want them to stop.
But every time we're down by 12 with 30 seconds left, he scores fucking 14 points. Right.
So I can't say anything about Jalen Brunson's performance. But would I like that podcast to stop during season? Yeah.
But then they got Dolan on the next podcast that they're promoting, which is like a clusterfuck for Knicks fans. Because Dolan has had strict media rules since he inherited the team from his dad.
Yeah. So for him to be sitting with a player and talking is like phenomenal.
It's almost like the Yankees changing the beard rule. I think it's dope.
I think it gives them something mentally to distract their focus. They don't...
They work out every day, but they don't work out hard every day you know what i mean like they watch film they might do walkthroughs and shit like that but then they have a huge portion of their day that belongs to them so if these are things that bring their anxiety down they it's fun they enjoy doing it keep them up the clubs yeah and that part we in new york city bro we we've seen what new y bro. We've seen what New York does to athletes.
You know what I'm saying? So if they could do this. You've seen it for sure, right? You too.
Talk about it. Yeah, you got eyes.
We talking about you right now. Talk about it.
You've seen it for sure, for sure. I've seen it for sure, for sure.
You was one of the niggas that did it. I don't hoop.
You didn't need to. Anyway, so I think I'm for it.
I'm against it. Jamal, even what you said, if it takes a focus, like I think if your team is ass, I don't want to see you focused on nothing else.
It's Kyler Murray playing Call of Duty. You could do it, and I just don't want to know that you're doing that.
To me, you should be trying to get better.
Y'all should be trying to focus on how to turn this team around
and try to get some wins out there.
If you're sitting here kicking it with your homies or whatever on a podcast about,
it just seems focus is off.
They're human, bro.
So to Joe's point with Brunson and Josh Ark, they winning.
Yeah, but that's an outlier.
Oh, that's not true.
Draymond is winning. Draymond is winning too.
But for me, it's not about. Bron is winning.
Yeah, but that's an outlier. That's not true.
Draymond is winning. Draymond is winning too.
But for me, it's not about... Bron is winning.
If you're winning, no one complains. If you're losing, people complain.
But for me, and that's ultimately what it comes down to. As a fan or as an owner, that's the perception of it for me, as well as the effectiveness of it.
The first question is, can you pod and be good at this? It's your job. And I don't know.
Some people can, some people can't. Before podcast, Paul George was sitting out games.
Before podcast existed, he was fucking coming up short in playoffs, at least in a lot of people's minds. The numbers don't really show that, but whatever, right? It's a perception of it.
So if I'm the Sixers owner, and they're selling tickets for a dollar right now in Philly, they're literally selling tickets for a- You ain't been down there in a long time, neither. No, I sold all my tickets.
I paid like $200,000 for MCT. You just want another date.
No, I didn't. No, he didn't go.
No, he didn't go anymore, yo. He gonna call you when he go again? So if I can't give these tickets away, and Embiid is injured, Paul George ain't playing, and then I go to YouTube to type Paul George in to find out when he's going to play, and instead I got another episode of Podcast P, it just looks bad.
It's about, yeah. And it's bad for business.
That Paul George contract, I think it's like a five-year deal, something nuts. It looks nuts as it goes.
Embiid being unavailable is an understatement. They're now talking about getting their money back on his contract if he's unable to play a year from the date that it's...
Yo, you're gonna get my money? I don't care about all this. It's over now, right? We gotta go figure out what that bet was.
It's $5,000. Five racks.
Yeah, you just gotta send that. I'll give it to you right now if you want it.
You have $5,000 cash in them jeans? I was going to... You'd be able to see them.
You'd be able to see them.
I was going to bring it to you
in cash. Our man is doing
bad.
He fucked up.
Four years, 211.
He must be fucked up.
Our man doing bad.
He collects on his bets.
Nah, but he usually...
There's a hunger in his voice. Touch me if you got a fever.
You good, my nigga? You doing, it's looking shaky for you, doggy. I don't know what plan you got.
It's tough out here. But I ain't falling for it, nigga.
I'm saying it's tough out here. Niggas brought fake water in here, all type of shit.
Focet water with niggas' names on it. It's tough.
Don't always assume I'm doing good. Check on your strong friends.
He making 53 million this year. He's at career lows.
Joe? Ooh. Joe? Yeah, Joe about that.
About 40. That shit is nuts.
Yo, he signed a four-year deal for 2-11 change. They sick.
He's killing. They sick.
And as a fan, he averaged 16 points a game as much money as I spend on season tickets when I when I actually see it as like y'all are fucking with my money right now like I feel disrespected I feel disrespected to watch somebody not play I mean when we went to the game he was just sitting there chilling chilling yeah he was chilling and to see that and then to watch you be on a podcast every day and podcasts is different than playing playing basketball. I get that.
Clearly, we proved that this weekend. But at some point, you got to look like you're giving the effort.
You know what I'm saying? As an owner, I think they should just make a rule. I can't say nothing about Paul George negative ever because many years ago, we was heading in the whip right there by greenhouse.
We was walking in whip and I was behind him in the line.
Or he was behind me in the line.
I got respect for him.
I got respect for him, man.
How many?
That shit is a cheat code.
Six nine in the line.
Decent looking, nice skin.
Tattoo, fresh lineup.
Good contract.
I'm in there bummy as hell shooting.
I don't care.
Joe Budden.
I got immense respect for Paul George,
so I can't say nothing about him.
I have a question real quick.
When Luka wiped his sweat on the basketball.
Yo, that ref was tight. That ref wanted to smack the shit out of Luka.
Did she have a right to be mad? Was that a girl? I was gone, I think. Sorry, pardon me.
Did the ref have a right to be upset? Yes. Yes and no, but...
Luka has a right to do that. The ref has a right to be mad.
Stop, nigga. It's a million people that work here that can get you a towel or anything to wipe your sweat off.
I'm the one handling this ball. You wiping your sweat on the ball and I gotta handle it right here on the free throw line.
The niggas be sweaty as fuck. The Yugoslavians.
What's Luka? What's Luka? What's Luka? Some shit, right? They be sweaty, them.
Them.
Them.
Yo, but again, everybody in Jersey be sweaty.
Like, they'll wipe their jerseys.
It's the same shit.
Black people don't act like that.
I was right.
He's Slovenian.
See?
He's Slovenian.
What the fuck is that?
What country?
Yugoslavia, nigga.
Yes.
No.
No, it's not Yugoslavian. Slovenia.
Oh, shit. Same shit.
Potentially part of the? Yugoslavia, nigga. Yes.
No. No, it's not Yugoslavian.
Slovenia.
Oh, shit. Same shit.
Potentially part of the old Yugoslavia.
Yeah. Melania's from there.
Hold me down. Hold me down, mom.
No, you're American, though. Enough of that sick shit you be talking about.
But she's Russian, too, nigga. She know that side.
You're American. She know that side, nigga.
We just
crack jokes. Our mother was whooping her ass as a kid.
She knows that side, nigga. She had to walk
with the president picture. Remember what we said? I think Reddit found a picture on her mom and she was funny.
It's possible. It's possible.
I posted pictures of me and my mom on my page. She did.
Shout out to your mom, ma'am. Reddit, get off your fucking ass.
You held it down, though. That was mad funny.
What do you mean you held it down? No, I mean the jokes. That's what's funny.
She's a great sport. Yeah, no, that was hilarious.
That was absolutely hilarious. Yes, Paul George.
I think he got the memo. Yes, he did.
Even saying that out loud. All right, we're going to try to do this with care and sensitivity.
We're going to try to do this in a manner to where y'all still have time to do what you need to do out there. We're going to try to do this with the utmost respect for the viewers, without too many spoilers.
Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. That may indeed, oh my God, did they kill the soundtrack? They did.
They did. They did.
They absolutely smoked the soundtrack. They smoked it.
Oh, let me stop this for a second. I had me singing that shit.
They smoked it. No, because first they was just doing the instrumental, and I caught it, and I was like, oh, they caught that.
This is my question to y'all. This is just quick.
Which do you prefer? I'm going to play that in the car. You're such a honky.
Shut your ass. Phil fucking Collins.
It is. He's him.
Which do y'all prefer? What they did on Paradise, where they have the angelic white voice coming down to do your favorite known slap like Paradise under a soft bed of music or the trend in the movies where they take the hard rap song hook and slow it all the way down like the horror movie like I Got Five on it. I love that.
They do that a lot now in the movies. But that one in particular Say My Nine for Candyman.
They did that one. I'm with that.
In now. I'm with that.
In the new one, be it with me because my brain is leaving me. In the new one, not a Marvel movie, but one of them new hero movies that's coming out soon.
I think they did Starship. Like, and they slowed that down and that was absolutely insane.
All right, y'all know what I'm talking about. What song from Starship though? Fucking Sarah.
The one.
Hold up.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
The one I just played recently.
That was hit.
Oh, fuck.
Well, anyway, I like
the slowed up shit on a hard hip hop record.
I like when they do both. I like both.
Like how they did
with this. I like both.
The angelic white
voice is underrated. I love me a good angelic white voice.
Yeah, no, it's true. All right.
Did everybody here see the finale of Paradise? Yes. Yeah.
Hey. Yeah, 40 and up right now.
Let's go get in your bag, big bell. Hey.
Let's go, Ish. Shout out to the legend Phil Collins, too.
They played it a lot of your house, right? Ish. Here you go.
Nice to talk. He pretends he can't hear high.
Starts to whistle as he crosses the street I'm so mad at myself for all the guesses that I did As to who's gonna kill Cal Oh, think twice Cause it's another day for you And me in paradise Oh, hey Think. Light as an air right there.
Just another day for you. You need a paradise.
No, let the music in his band. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey. Is this Y'all Rock? No.
No. Borderline, but no.
Yeah. It's a little passage.
All right. Very angry at myself for my my guests I'm not listening to these spoilers Same You didn't see it? Take a break No I'm going to the bathroom Take a break Yeah I'm like Six episodes behind y'all Oh my god Get out Sit down now Starbucks Take a hike Go to fucking Starbucks Don't grab us some lunch or something What a jerk What.
What a fucking jerk. There's no way anybody could have.
Yeah. No fucking way.
Slip hanging. It's not true.
How? It's not possible. It was real easy to say, oh, the guy that they showed us trying to kill him.
Nah. Yeah, but you don't think that.
But you don't think that. That's what you think about that.
We thought that they tackled him and he was in prison. I feel like my brain should have came up with that one.
Oh, it's the guy that they showed us already trying to murk this nigga. You would.
You would have never thought that. No, why? Because you wouldn't have a back story as to why he tried to kill him in the first place.
To me, that shouldn't have mattered. And I would have thought they killed that guy.
I would have thought, yeah. Or he's in prison for life.
I thought he was locked up. Yeah, I thought he was locked up.
Which he was. He was locked up.
He got out of there. Yeah, but we don't.
We never would even remotely have an inkling that he would get out of there. In prison break, he got out of there.
And that hunting show, they get out of there. And on TV, the guy gets out of jail.
On TV, jail ain't as secure as they fucking make it. No, the other guess with the lady.
That was a better guess. That was a good guess.
That was a better guess. That was a good guess.
What did y'all think of the finale? Come on, talk to me, talk to me. What did y'all think? Without going too much into detail, I didn't like it too tough.
I was very underwhelmed. I liked it.
Very underwhelmed. I remember when it first went off, I looked at the TV, I was like, damn, that was kind of ass.
Were you underwhelmed because you didn't see, you didn't know that he would be the killer? We were underwhelmed, if I could talk to both of us, because the fucking show Jump the Shark in the first season. Whoa, that's a little...
That's aggressive. That's aggressive.
What does that mean? For people who don't know what Jump the shark is. It's a TV term.
We've broke this down at least six times in this podcast. But fuck it, new listeners, if you're not familiar with the term, it basically means when a TV series plot line has gone from plausible, because there's always a suspended state of reality.
It's from happy days. Dramatic effect.
Yeah. So it goes from being plausible to completely ridiculous.
What did you think was completely ridiculous about it and if if you thought that up to episode seven it's been plausible yeah no because that could be deemed as completely ridiculous no you're right and it that like i said that's why i said suspend reality and you know just kind of understand that the show is a lot of dramatic effect is taken here a lot of liberties is taken so you do that but then it's like okay dude's in fucking jail happens to be in colorado then there's a prison break and it's just like the timing is so short and for all of these tiny little variables to come into play he breaks out of fucking prison he happens to get the Then he's walking down the street, you know, checking IDs of people who are in cars and there's hundreds of thousands of cars, but he just happens to buck up on the two people that have clearance to go to Paradise. Come the fuck on.
No, he was searching for people that had clearance. But the timing.
I disagree. He was from the area.
He was working there. He tried to assassinate him there.
He wasn't from Colorado. He was working on the thing.
He was working in the thing. He was one of the creators.
He helped build it. He was the manager.
He was the engineer. He was the foreman.
You're right. They locked him up in that jail.
Yes. Cool.
So when the jailbreak happens, of course, if the world goes awry, the motherfuckers that are in jail are going to try to break out. That would happen next door.
That's a fact. If the world goes awry, he gets out, everybody else wants him, run amok shit.
He's an analytic. He sees the dude down there with a badge, with a uniform, with all of those things.
I get out, I kill him. Okay.
I mean, I kill him. I take the knife out his chest.
Now I have a uniform that makes me look official. Official and representable at that point.
Totally understand. And I see the purpose for it all, but it just, to me...
And it wasn't hundreds of thousands of cars. Did you see the aerial shots? I saw it.
Of all those cars winding down the mountain. And he's going car by car, like, yo.
Finding someone with a thing. And they're like, yeah, they got us going, blah, blah, blah.
And that road might have been the road to. Promise land.
Yeah. I knew he was going to kill the people.
Yeah. He killed the people.
And then. And then he's coming out of like a convenience store and just happens to find this woman who's just sitting there.
It just. That was one of my favorite.
That That was one of my favorite parts because now... You happen to be in the best spot that you could be of anyone in the world.
Right place, right time. And it makes me look that much more representable because it was the librarian and his wife.
So now my wife and I are going to get on and makes it look, you know what I mean? Like more.
You won't think that.
Acceptable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it's a husband and wife couple as opposed to just a single man coming on.
No, bring the wife.
And then in addition to that, we look at the president's house or the former president's house.
He's got guards and sort of.
So he just happens to know.
That's what killed me.
He just happens to know that he's going to get past all the Secret Service agents and get up to this man's bedroom and kill him. Only two.
And it was off their guard. Only two.
And they showed you that. How would they know that? You wouldn't know it.
In episode one, the guards were addicted to video games. They played video games every day at 11 o'clock.
There was man holes in the security the whole time. Every day at 11 o'clock.
But how would, he doesn't know that though. How do you know he's not stalking the house? He might be stalking the house.
He's, cause he set his watch to exactly 11 o'clock. If you see, he was in the bushes, his watch said 11 o'clock.
As soon as his wife said 11 o'clock, he put his shit into play. So at 11 o'clock, they always say that these two stupid motherfuckers killed a security to play Wii.
And the fuck. Yes.
So he might have been watching the house for a period of time. Because to me, what made it less plausible is the daughter going with the girl.
The daughter should have died. That is my only beef about the finale.
The daughter should have been gone when it looked like Jamie texted Anastasia and said, yo, it was done. I don't know how, yeah, I don't know how she survived and Jamie dropped her off and that.
Nah, she was lying to her, the whole shit. I know.
The lady was really crazy. Jamie.
Jamie is really nuts. So I'm confused.
Would you have popped her? Pop Jane? Yeah. Popped her a shooter or popped her? No, no, no.
Fucked her. If I was...
Huh? Bill or anybody in there, if you was the guy playing the Wii in there and worked with Jane... Yeah, you would fuck Jane.
Little goofy-ass girl, you don't know she's nuts because she played the goofy role to the T. Yo, niggas have to throw that line in the garbage.
We didn't know she was nuts. Sometimes, sometimes you don't know.
Sometimes you don't know. Only sometimes,
sometimes,
a lot of times we know.
Most times we know
they're nuts, right?
And we just be like,
all right, dog.
That girl was playing,
that girl was playing goofy
very well.
She was.
When she poisoned that nigga,
I said,
you said bring
the biggest motherfucker.
The nuts bitches
be having the good shit
and abusive bitches.
Yeah.
Y'all keep saying,
yo, stop playing.
Ding twice.
The bitches that's going to throw a lamp at you, they're fire. Right after, too.
They just passionate. They passionate.
That's all it is. That's what it is.
Okay, but I was confused about when Jane shoots her and then she walks up to Sinatra and she says he was gonna shoot you in the head. He'll kill you.
And she was like, you have a long road of recovery. Where did she shoot to where she she shoot? It looked like she shot her in the fucking neck.
No, because she's a Secret Service agent. They don't really miss.
So I'm going to shoot you, bitch. I know you ain't going to die.
Probably to the right of your heart somewhere. That's what it looked like.
You're not going to die. You're welcome.
Because he was going to shoot you in your fucking head. And I need to make it look like you're going to die.
Like I meant to kill you. Yeah.
Should have been shot. Listen, I don't want us to delve too deep into this because I want to give people a chance to watch it even though we just unpacked everything for the most part.
But I wasn't mad at the finale. I wasn't at all.
For a quick eight episode run. And you got to figure that they didn't necessarily know for certain that there's going to be a season two.
Exactly. right.
That was big. And I think that, again, I'm always looking for the other shit.
The overall theme. Yeah.
I think that when he starts to tell him like, yo, dog, I started getting comfortable here. I thought that we had like a rebirth of potential for society.
And you same rich oligarch motherfuckers put us in prison and start doing the same exact things that y'all fucked up upstairs with, that shit was monumental for me. Him talking to Homeboy, like the little subtle shit, like, you know, when I'm watching shit, I'll be looking at the shit away from the action.
You're not deep, but go ahead. Alright.
But, dog, that shit was monumental when he was talking to him. Like, yo, I did this for Adam.
Shit like that. Like, it was big.
And trigger warning, I ain't really like the librarian's suicide jump. Nah, that was kind of fly.
I didn't love it. I thought it was like some, nah, he should have been shot before then.
Like, his jump wasn't assertive at all. He went and took that nice little chunk of that sky.
He did. Sure did.
And I don't think he should have jumped. I wouldn't have shot him if I was them.
I would have shot him. If you were them.
Hell yeah. Not in the head.
Not me. He'd have got shot.
That's what I'm saying. You can shoot a nigga without killing him.
And he had the weapon in the library. He should have shot.
He should have definitely shot him. He had the murder weapon in the glass case in the library.
You could have shot him. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think he should have shot him. I think that we try to get out of here.
So whatever information that you have is more needed than not. I wouldn't have shot him.
And after he sat there and told you why he did what he did, it's the same journey that homeboy was on at that point. We bringing down all the rich motherfuckers.
It was the same exact journey that homeboy was on at that point. So why not make him an ally instead of shooting him? I enjoyed the episode.
Me too. I also enjoyed in real life Sterling K.
Brown's wife doing she was doing a watch reaction. Oh for real? So when Sterling K.
Brown the wife is watching like like, yo nigga, that's all you had?
That's what you said? To stop her, try to stop her
from going to Atlanta? Like, now I'm looking at you funny.
Like, what if this was the real deal?
His real wife.
That's funny.
No, practice right now. Tell me how you would get me
to not go to Atlanta, because this shit's passive.
No, that shit was absolutely awesome.
One thing I like when Kyle pressed the blue button to stop all the, you know, to shut the world down. I thought that was dope.
I didn't see that coming at all. That's one thing I like.
Oh, he broke the blue shit. Yeah, he broke the blue shit, and he typed the code in to stop all the nuclear bombs and to shut the world down and sets us back 500 years.
But I thought that was great.
I like that part.
Yeah, me too.
And I just chalked this up as one of those shows.
Sometimes you get shows where the finale is before the finale.
And that's what this was.
Like, episode seven was their kebang.
Yeah.
Now we just closing this up to get to the next season.
And to Parks' point.
And if that happens, I remember everybody's reaction after episode seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But again, to Parks' Point, they might have had a whole different episode eight. Yeah, yeah.
And now we got renewed, we got to rewrite episode eight to, you know what I mean? To open it up for the next season. Overall, still a great show.
It's still a great show. Eight episodes, even if you didn't like the finale.
You can't be mad. I'm not knocking the show at all.
Let's hit the round of applause for Sterling K. Brown,
everybody on the staff for Paradise.
Really good show.
It is made by the same guy as this is us.
That makes sense.
Dan Fogelman.
Dan Fogelman.
I see your style, man.
I see your style.
You good, boy.
It's a good style.
You mad at that boy?
That boy is good.
Let's bring this right back.
Fuck that.
Yeah, I ain't mad at all.
I ain't mad at all.
What else?
What else out there is important or unimportant?
Y'all said Biggie's catalog is going up for sale?
It is.
And his likeness and all that shit.
Wow.
With the likeness?
Yeah.
Does this coincide with his mom's passing away?
That's what's weird about it to me.
Could be. That's what's weird about it.
It was announced literally, I think, maybe a day after she passed. Oh, wow.
That's weird. I don't think that's weird.
Not weird at all. It kind of flows together.
It makes sense. The estate is in probate, so now we're going to see what we can get.
I don't know. And the kids don't want it.
I was about to say, I'm not picking or knowing what his children have. His kids might not have much.
Nah, but don't do that. You can have much and still want $100 million.
Facts. True.
No, I'm just saying, but if you got something, then you might not immediately put it up for sale the very next day. You will evaluate your options.
And you know what I'm saying? Assess where your financial situation is.
You're not going to just throw it up for sale tonight.
Let's take this off, Biggie.
Let's keep it a buck. When y'all die,
young kids is getting rid of y'all's
assets and shit. A lot of times, as soon as
right away. That's why you put things in place
to prevent that. That's not true, bro.
That's not true.
It's all contingent upon where you are
financially. My kids selling their shit out of
my condo. Oh.
Not if they got money up. Especially Trey.
That nigga ain't beat for money? I don't know if it's... That's where we differ.
I don't know if it's a beat for money thing. But that's what y'all saying.
Y'all like, yo, immediately. I think Trey.
I've known him since he was a kid. Trey don't really be fazed by materialistic shit like that.
I don't think it's necessarily a
money play. When my grandma died
and she gave me whatever she gave me in Campbell's
soup, it made sense and
it was a good investment.
Give me this shit the fuck out of here.
If you don't give me my seven grand,
whatever the fuck it was worth. When was this?
My grandma died, I want to say
2011. What was your financial? 2010.
Today you don't sell it. Today now.
That's my point. Today now.
Today you don't sell it. Today you keep the soup.
I add on to that camera. Yeah, today you get some more alphabets in the soup.
I add on to that camera. Add a little more noodles.
That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they're doing good today.
But they do have a point. You hear the stories about when a parent pass away,
children sell off their assets.
True.
It's custom doors.
This is why a lot of people put things in place
where they can't sell it.
True.
My father put in place some shit like,
you and your brother.
No skits.
Not at all.
You can't sell this.
It needs to go down.
I didn't even know that was possible,
but at the time I didn't know it was possible.
Have you had an evaluation done on your IPs? Are you trying to be funny? No. That's a real conversation.
No. You should.
Yeah. How much your shit worth? I said it last week.
It's all right, though. I was in the ballpark.
What is IP? Intellectual property.
What do you mean?
What do you mean, what is it?
Let's engage in it.
All the shit you ever came up with.
No, I haven't had it evaluated, no.
I didn't think that you would,
because we don't behave that way as the living.
But I'm learning now.
You should.
You should.
It's like, think of the artists that are selling the living. But I'm learning now.
You should. You should.
It's like think of the artists that are selling the catalog. I got it.
Right? Like it has to be evaluated. Let me see what my catalog is worth just so I can know.
What it will earn over the next course. Yeah, over the next 10, 20 years.
When it'll be at its peak value. See, I'm mad at that because I think I'm not, because it's not my wheelhouse.
I think you could borrow against that catalog as opposed to selling it. And I'm always a fan of that.
I'm always opposed. I'm always a fan of keeping the asset, borrowing against the asset, generating more wealth with the borrowed money and giving it back.
So now I just have way more assets as opposed to selling the asset. Like if you could sell it for $125, I could borrow $50 against it, take the $50 and make it work.
I still got the catalog and more shit. And you can pay back the service.
I'm always a fan of that. Yeah.
That's a level of financial sophistication. I was just getting right.
And a tax ramification. Right.
And a desire to grow financially. A lot of wealthy kids, like, they just want to spend.
They just want to spend the rest of their life spending money. And they're like, you had your IPs evaluated, right? Yeah, nigga.
It ain't a hard question. Yes.
That's the slow-ass answer, right? Yes. I just think it's dope, man.
You got to do that for the estate planner. Yeah, I understand.
Yeah. I'm learning.
Do you got wills and insurance and stuff like that? And everybody. No, I have insurance.
Again, I want to urge everybody to get into their estate planning, too. Everybody, yeah.
Estate planning, what's the shit my dad be preaching, your PSA number for the cancer shit. What else? What mail be preaching? Health checks.
Yo, listen. Screening.
The audience up here that listens to this is too smart for me. For my good.
And I say that to say to go back around because when I say I'm learning in real time, they have a problem with that. Like, oh, nigga, you're old.
I think that that's one of the greatest things about you. That's amazing.
Hell yeah. No, I think that.
I'm so comfortable in my skin. We're your OGs now.
Hold on. I'm comfortable in my skin to learn that a lot of times in my life, I just wasn't into things.
No, but no, sometimes... Sometimes your circle exposes you to things that you would have never been exposed to.
My mind was only... I'm not trying to make it about myself.
They don't like that neither. My mind was only...
Holy shit, you learned that. I gotta get to the...
Fuck that. I'll stay on it.
Stop. I gotta get to the bag.
I came from nothing. I was poor and I don't want to be poor again.
So if I can get $15,000 from doing this, if I can get $9,000 from doing a minute, let me see how much I can get in the time. And then, you know, your lifestyle, you start spending more.
So coming up here is just learning different things about how to navigate through the world of media. You know what I'm saying? And people don't understand that.
That's why I understand the story sometimes when it's predatory sometimes to give somebody out the hood a big contract. The same thing, if you don't have the information, it's not predatory, but it's crazy.
It's setting them up for failure. You're going to give it right back.
If I started YouTube, look at my account, and within that year, I had nothing. I'm living in my mom's basement, nothing.
And then now, at the end of the year, I have 70,000. And it's like, okay, there's something here.
So now you're seeing how you could double it without the knowledge or the education. So then you seclude yourself from the rest of the world.
I don't know about the podcasts and financial shit. I don't know about that.
What's my man named being in VestFestFest every year the billionaire black dude Robert? Robert Smith. Robert Smith.
I seen a clip with him yesterday. He was like, don't y'all know the word capital, the root word capital is Latin and it means information.
I was like, oh, shit, he cooking now. I think that we frown upon people learning.
Nah, he was going crazy. And you know what? And they demonize it.
I think we frown upon people learning in real time or teaching in real time. I think everybody wants to come off as this knowledgeable person.
Know at all. Know at all.
I think it's whack. I think that vulnerability is a strong point for me.
It's not a vulnerability, bro. Well, to me.
But I'm telling you, it's not a vulnerability. For you not to know something and openly admit it.
But how many people say that? But you're being vulnerable to say it in public. How many people say it publicly? They don't want to know everything.
But I'm just saying. When y'all be talking, I write my notes.
I go home like, oh shit. I'm going to Google it.
I love to hear them niggas talk. Like, again, certain people, Dame, 50, Jay, even Irv, rest in peace.
A lot of times when niggas talk, they'll be saying some shit and you'll be like. Yeah.
Like Flip saying, Robert Smith, fucking Don Peebles.
Them niggas be talking that shit.
You'll be like, oh, okay. Yeah.
You know what you're supposed to know. What does that mean? I disagree.
Yeah, I totally disagree with that. Yeah.
I totally disagree. I know you do.
What does that mean? Yo, his mind is so crazy. It means that the world is designed and there's levels in it.
Right? So we look at the NYCHA niggas, the niggas that's in the NYCHA apartment housing in fucking in New York. Like there's certain sectors of the world that they're not going to allow you to have i see what you mean yeah access to and as you progress and as you get the tools to level up there will always be levels above you that you have no knowledge on at all you know what you're supposed to know for where you are in that moment of time, for what you make, for all of our past, right? Like sometime in the morning, I stand on my balcony and I'll stare over at Billionaire's Row and just be like...
How? Like you don't ask yourself how? Not really the how, right? But it's not for me right now. Like whatever that is for that point of view, even though it's not far from here, right? Like I've said before, where I live, I could step on the balcony and see Spanish Harlem.
From right here, we can see Spanish Harlem. We're probably across from Harlem, right? But the people over there, as close as it is in proximity, it's a different POV.
But billionaires were always a lot of generational wealth. Like, that's pretty much all it is.
I don't assume that. I don't assume that either.
I don't assume that. Not today.
Not today. There's people out there.
There's too much tech money today. A lot of them didn't come from money.
But the majority, I would say that the majority of the population of billionaires row is, it's not new money. It is generational wealth.
So do you think, I'm sorry. So when people categorize, they call this right here.
The Gold Coast. The Gold Coast, right? So they say all this is new money.
They refer to all of us as new money. Like, this is new money.
And the Edgewater, Fort Lee, Weehawken area, we've been here for 20 years. 15 minutes away from here, niggas didn't know this shit existed yeah literally 15 minutes away from here people did not know that this shit existed this used to be my date spot and people that lived 10-15 minutes from here didn't know it existed rest in peace to the multiplex what the fuck are you talking about so I think that when Joe see I.
I disagree with Joe
when he'd be like,
because I think if you don't put information in your brain,
you become complacent
and you'll never scale up.
Do you think that it's designed for us to be comfortable
in whatever situation that we're in?
A thousand percent.
Yes.
Because it's like,
you hear the rare story.
It's a rarity for someone to say,
that's not really rare,
but I want to go out and find more information, so I'm going to take the steps by spending my last to find it. If I have to lose this apartment or lose my apartment and I've seen somebody in NYCHA, I want to go out there and find the information.
I have to struggle to find it so I can go to the next level. But a lot of people don't want to take that chance.
I don't think it's designed like that. I think complacent and comfortability is just a human thing.
But why don't you think it's designed
like that? If you're staying in a project building,
rent is cheap, you're able to
get, no
disrespect to anyone, you're able to get food
stamps, and then the money that you make
from work on the side, you pocket
it and could fund
your lifestyle that you're trying to
show the world. That's
comfortability. I don't have to do that much.
I can stay in here.
I'm not willing to learn anything.
There's a process
This is the first time I was I don't have to do that much. I can stay in here.
I'm not willing to learn anything. There's a process on how I'm achieving it and I'm getting it.
Do you understand what I mean? Yeah, I do. I think that growth is uncomfortable.
I think people only grow when there's uncomfortability. That's one.
So were things designed to keep us in a certain space? Yes But I don't think that those designs Today A library card is free Because you like people who give they last So information is around you free We got the internet We look at bitches all day on the gram We look at our What you call it page? For you Yeah The for you page and all of that shit is based on what you spend your time watching. If you start watching financial shit, it's going to keep feeding you financial shit.
That shit is free. A lot of times escaping these traps is free.
So I don't think that, maybe it was designed in yesteryear to trap us, yes. But today I just think motherfuckers become...
But the trap is inside your mind.
Like, you have to have the wherewithal
to seek that information
and also to try to seek
different relationships.
Like, if you're the smartest one
in your circle of five,
then you need a new fucking circle.
So me and Joe stand,
me, Joe, and Corey,
stand on total opposites.
This is one of our biggest fights.
We stand on total opposites.
I believe that,
they believe that people got their foot on your neck. I totally am against that theory.
I believe that if you want to grow and if you want to succeed, you can. I don't believe that nobody can stop you from becoming Robert Smith.
I hate when you do that. I do.
I hate when you do that. Why? I'm on both sides of that.
Because one down the gate, darling. Yeah, but I'm on both sides.
Yeah, but are you saying that they stopping you from doing something saying that they stopping you from doing something no no no no see but that's you misinterpreting what we be saying we don't be saying people are stopping us from doing something you never hear me talk like that they just put certain things in place to prevent you from making the stops I'm aware of all of the obstacles that are in place he's right for me versus someone else that don't say it's impossible I'm not I'm preaching that message. What if somebody put an obstacle in front of you and this is your dream, right? If we talk about from the media game, what if it's like you have all the qualifications, the people are interested in you, the person's interested in you to do something, and then somebody who is higher or in the same field that you're in put an obstacle in front of you to prevent you from getting that.
They just throw a monkey wrench. What's my course of action? Your course of action is to either go somewhere else or find another way through it.
But what if the obstacle is so... There's a lot of times you hear people in a media game, it's called blackballing and gatekeeping.
That is real. Oh, yeah.
That is a real thing. They can stop...
Like, you're right there. You can have the conversation.
And this is why they say from a kid, don't share all your information until the deal is signed or don't, or whatever that slogan is. But people put up roadblocks-ish.
And then now what do you do? Do you change your course of action? Do you go into a new field? I got two names, Jay-Z and 50 Cent. 50 Cent got blackballed.
Okay. The niggas that was blackballing him admitted numerous times, yes, I was blackballing that nigga.
Yes, yes. Purposefully.
50 Cent is worth a couple hundred million dollars. Yes.
So either you're going to circumvent the blackball, you're going to keep trying, you're going to go through it, whatever the case may be. But I believe if you got persistence, you can get around.
But 50 Cent was blackballed, no disrespect, no shout out to 50 Cent was blackballed not by someone in that office. That's not true.
Irv was in those offices. Irv told me that direct.
Irv was in those offices and had their ear. Ja Rule was his hottest fish grease.
I think what Cliff is saying is 50 is blackballed in one little corner, in one sector. Oh, I see what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying. The foot-on-neck theory that we're talking about speaks to systemically abroad.
Yes. Not just one aspect of something.
Cool, but at that particular point in time, that was his world. That was the only world that he knew that he could get out of the...
But he wasn't going to go make TV shows in 2002. Yeah, he wasn't going to go write a book.
Like, in 2001, 2002, 2003, this is his world. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is the world that I know that could get me out the jungle of Queens, that I could go to put some food on the table for my family.
And that's back to my point. Because that was his world, and he was a megastar in his world, he gained an access and was privy to things and people and info and resources and networks that other people are not.
Post Blackball. And because he's a genius, he took that.
That wasn't pre-Blackball. He gained that access after he fought through the Blackball.
You talk about Mixtape 50 before Get Rich comes out. He's trying to get a deal.
No, because that little music Blackball is a dot on the piece of paper. Now.
But he still had to fight through that to become a megastar. then joe that shit was a circle that he was fighting his ass off to get through if that's the only world you can see true i i think that he is greater than that and saw more than that if that's the only world you can see then yes that black ball is insurmountable but he still had to get through that black ball because he made it in that world.
The world where they tried to black ball him in.
He didn't go somewhere else. You got the clue to get to
the next clue. We're going to do the escape room.
Some of
them clues, you'll get to one early.
You can't do that until you've figured out
the other clues that line up to that
clue. We know the story.
The 50 Cent story.
Em was listening to the mixtape on the
airplane. It just landed in his lap
Whatever the case may be from what I heard
I might be wrong
But dog, again, that's just me keep making mixtapes
I ain't say, yo, these niggas is blackballing me, I'ma quit
I'ma keep doing what I'm doing
And doing what I'm doing
I'ma be resilient, I'ma be persistent
I'ma not take no for an answer
I think that's where
I'm so sorry
You got blackballed
From the industry, but then you
Thank you. not take no for an answer.
See, I think that's where... Hold on, hold on.
Oh, go ahead. Sorry, I'm so sorry.
No, go ahead.
You got blackballed from the industry,
but then you captured the air of the streets.
So?
Right?
So when you captured the air of the streets,
the noise from the public, it... Overrides.
It overrides it.
And on top of the not include of getting shot
nine times surviving.
It's so many things that happen in that situation
that play the such fate.
All are based in persistence and
resiliency. But that's what makes
the systemic stuff so
important to acknowledge because part of it is
there's roadblocks. And then part
of it is figuring out how to get around those roadblocks.
But part of it is if you've been
if you come up in a system where you're not even given
permission to think about those alternatives as real
that's what makes it difficult.
That's one of the biggest things.
I'll use myself as a example.
I'll use myself as a example.
And even at this stage in my career or earlier in my career,
it was like, get a TV show, get a TV show, host a TV show, host a TV show.
And it wasn't until I got lucky and got to a better agency, WME,
that they were like, why the fuck do you keep trying to get hired as a TV host?
Why don't you make a show? Why don't you create a show? But that wasn't something that I even knew was a possibility. But in that case, it wouldn't have been a lack of persistence.
It wasn't like I was afraid to get a show. I didn't know that that was a thing.
I didn't know it was a thing you could do. But other people are taught from day one, go make your own shit.
True. You know what I mean? And then I meet people like Joe and stuff, and it's like, oh, wait, why the fuck do you need a TV? Fuck TV, right? But there are people who are miles ahead of this who I don't get to meet because I don't have access to that information.
Yeah, but I think that's life. Yeah, but I think it's designed.
And life for everybody. But it's organized that way, so that some people do know that stuff and other people don't.
Mark, would you say when you got black, because you was a black ball from television. Still am.
Would you say when you got black ball from television that you had no other choice but to pursue other options? I already had four or five other things going. I still sold books.
I still spoke on the street. But I still can't get on TV.
You know what I mean? There's a war in the Middle East and I'm one of the leading experts on this topic
and I can't get on TV about it.
This is a complete sidebar, I'm sorry,
but I really actually wanted to,
when we were talking about Oscars,
you saw what the documentary was
that won.
So it was a Palestinian and an Israeli
director who kind of came together
and they're winning the Oscar for this documentary. And you know why you all haven't seen it? Because it's not distributed anywhere.
It's not on Apple TV. It's not on Amazon.
It's not on Netflix. With all due respect, that's important.
I don't want to take away from where Mark was. He was gone somewhere.
He was gone somewhere. Okay, put a pin in that.
I'm sorry. Yeah, but I had other ways to go because I was already far enough along.
But if that had happened, if that was my entry point into this business, if that had happened in 2005, I wouldn't be doing anything. Y'all wouldn't know me.
You might not have recovered. No, I'd be teaching public school, which is a great thing.
That depends on the person, though, bro, because sometimes people get that roadblock in front of them and say, yo, I'm determined. I'm going to make this regardless.
All right, cool. Y'all not letting me get in over here.
I'm going to make y'all want me in over here. This is the only thing I say in response.
Yes, that's true. I just don't want, I think the danger of that approach is just that it means that anybody who doesn't get where 50 gets or anybody who doesn't get this other place, we see it as a lack of determination or a failure to persist.
And that's my only problem with that. And we don't look to the system that makes that impossible for most 50 cent is a genius like yeah i don't look at every blind southern jim crow negro and be like why don't you be ray charles right like even if you're decent at the p like you have to be so extraordinary to get past some of this stuff and i don't look at everybody who didn't like why the fuck you mean just do a ray charles it's almost like the idea that the that if you don't reach the pinnacle of a of success as a black person then you've failed right like that's all we have.
It's either or. And it's like, I agree with you.
Because you have to be such a giant to make it. It's a dangerous sentiment.
To clear it, yeah. Perseverance comes with, and it's going to sound crazy, you end up draining yourself out in the long run, right? So while we're talking about this, and it's good to be, you know,
to go out and get it,
because I agree with Ish.
No one can stop anything.
I'm going to go get it.
But when you sit down with yourself
and you have to analyze that,
it's causing a wear and tear on you
mentally and physically.
Emotionally.
Absolutely.
Emotionally.
Now you're trying to question things.
Why is it like that?
What did I do wrong?
What can I do better?
So, yeah, it's good to persevere, but sometimes you have to take a chance, and that's it. I'll leave it like that? What did I do wrong? What can I do better? So, yeah, it's good to persevere
but sometimes you have to take a chance
and that's it. I'll leave it at that for me.
Oh.
Don't end it when I'm about to pull up a song to clown you.
Nah, you can't do that.
I'm about to say, y'all kept going, being motivational
I was going to pull up a song.
That was fire. I appreciate that.
We appreciate teamwork.
Absolutely fire.
You cold? You alright? Yes. I appreciate that.
We appreciate it. Teamwork.
Absolutely fire. You cold? You all right? Yes, I'm cold.
The air in here, they be doing some weird shit where they put it on. It was at 68 five minutes ago.
Your blood start flowing slower when you get old, right? I don't know, motherfucker. You tell me you older than me.
Man, what are those? You're a little old shit. You need to keep that elevated? I do.
Somebody give him a fucking footstool.
I'm not even playing with Mel like that no more.
I'm not playing with Mel like that no more.
And you get a salute.
You get a salute from me.
Thank you.
Me too.
The dedication and shit that you put into your health and your body,
I ain't joking.
No, that shit is different.
Thank you. I ain't going to joke with you.
You should do it for different reasons. No, you know Corey be on his bullshit.
Muscles. That nigga was out there.
The cardio is different. Cardio ain't different.
Yo, go ahead over there, Mr. Squat.
Go ahead over there, nigga. I was trying to post Corey up and feel some body.
That nigga wouldn't let me feel it pause. That nigga kept backing up trying to pull a chair from under me.
over here, nigga You know I need to feel some body Get your little athletic ass over here Yo, you're a fool Wait, what did he say? Ice looks disgusting I need to feel some body on the post You need body on the post On the post? Oh, man I don't know where I'm going If I don't feel your body. Oh, man.
That's why Imani was trying to kill you. Imani tried to injure me for good.
I don't know what I did to him. I thought that was one of my better mans.
But ego. He just knows that you're an aggressive basketball player, so he's trying to meet your aggression.
Because, yo, you really, yo, Imani called an offensive foul. He did.
I screamed. What? Off ball.
And I rode with him, too. I was like, yup.
Yo. He called an offensive foul.
Wait. That's when I knew you was on bullshit.
Off the front. He was fronting me.
He was fronting me. He was fronting me.
They threw it over the top. I called it.
Good pass. He called an offensive foul on the front.
Yo, I've never seen such a bitch. In pickup basketball.
What a bitch in pickup ball. Yo, my man got the tattoo of the mic on him.
Of his name? Yeah. He got his whole.
Oh, you're He got his whole, he got a whole, those type of mic. What mic was that again? You took Al G.
Imani played like a Puerto Rican. The Puerto Ricans that got all the energy and want to come out and run around and hit you and fucking do all that.
Imani was wilding, bro. Yeah, you're not invited next time.
I ain't gonna lie. He did good, though.
Spanish niggas do burpees all day.
And then my guy D-Did came over to me in the second game, whispered to me,
he said, yo, we need you.
Don't stick him.
He's just running around.
Save your energy.
I said, oh, that's a good idea.
I took Corey.
Corey wasn't doing shit.
That's why I got Corey the first game.
Mark sticks Corey the first game so they could double. Yeah, that's what I was going to do.
And I'm like, Corey, cut to the basket. I was like, Corey's like, I ain't going nowhere.
I'm right here. Corey, right on the three-point line.
Then when I was thinking Parks, I was in a good mood because we both smokers. It's like, all right.
We're chilling. I'm chilling.
Yeah, and then Parks got hurt. It's like, oh, no.
For the young boys. Then they brought in Clay Thompson.
22-year-old came in.
24.
24, yeah.
The young boy with a J-like border.
24-year-old, 6'3".
From the Indian reservation.
Yeah, good head.
Fuck him.
Stocky nigga, fuck out of here.
I was like, I'm just going to keep fouling.
Who was he?
Was y'all people?
No, he was with Erickson.
Erickson.
Erickson, man.
Shout out to him.
I was watching him in the pregame.
He used to make...
He was doing drills and shit.
I said, oh, you play Juco.
Nigga, Erickson, other man, 6'7", jumpers. Julian.
Yeah, Julian, yeah. Julian.
Yeah, I play. Oh, he wore ringers.
Yeah, yeah, I play NII. Next time we do this, the people I invite to be subs are going to be, like, people that play basketball.
Yeah. Not us who had no business out there.
Oh, no.
I don't think,
I think we got to have non-athletic gray hairs.
It got to be all the same.
Exclusively.
Right.
You can make a thing out of this.
No, we just got to do it
like we told Buck.
Yo, we're not doing that.
And Buck was holding it.
He was holding back.
He was holding back for sure.
He shot a couple jumpers,
but Adam's just hitting that shit.
Yo, we had point game.
I'm out there dying.
Buck grab a rebound right under the rim. Don't put it up.
I said, Buck. Just end this fucking game.
Yeah, Buck, end this game, yo. Enough of that being modest shit.
Just put it in. Dog, point game took like 30 minutes.
It did. Point game took mad long.
It probably was realistically only six minutes, but it felt like 30. That was a long-ass time.
It was 11-5 for like, oh, man. The things that they're going to say about us when this is published.
Oh, they're't wait They're gonna kill us It's gonna be hilarious See you know what They're gonna kill me and Mark Probably the most Oh please me too No because I told you the most shit You was scoring I was pregnant You was But you was scoring I was pregnant out there You scored all the points Don't matter No it matters Look at me I need to know how you did Because you was talking a lot of shit Actually I wasn I wasn't talking a lot of shit, but I was responding to him talking shit. You're the reason this happened.
No, no, that's not what happened, but I'll let that go. It started with me and Ish saying something and he said, y'all two can't play no ball.
Let's go play ball. That's how it started.
Right, but you was talking a lot of shit about your game. You were talking a lot of shit.
No, no, I'm just saying I didn't start this shit. But it's fine.
I think that, Joe, you can make this a thing, yo. No, honestly, I really wish I didn't hurt my foot.
I would have really been ready to go out there in two weeks. Yeah, I mean, I would play again.
I should make this a thing. I'm ready.
I just need to practice. When the summer breaks, what I did think about was bringing back the kickball tournaments.
Yes. You need to.
Back in the day, during the summer, I used to wake up at like 8 and tweet a park. Yo, meet here at noon, kickball.
And all the fans would come. She was lit.
That sounded like fun. She was lit.
Kickball is fun. Kickball was the shit.
Heard yourself playing that now, too. You don't have to be Kobe Bryant in the kickball.
Like, you could play at your physicality. My man was training for the marathon.
He tore his calf playing fucking either baseball or kickball or softball One of them just hit the base But the kickball was only lit When the Yamins showed up Hey hey hey Yo can you That's not true That's not true You wasn't around for the first ones. Them first kickball games.
Kickball is fun, whether the Yamins or the non-Yamins show up. Actually, my favorite kickball is when one of them fucking 6'4 fucking, I forgot what he was, niggas would show up, and we would pick him on our team.
It's like I was looking for him every kickball match. Like, nigga, come outside.
Dodgeball. The Yamins.
niggas in the head. Yeah, exactly.
Real athletes. You ever just sit home and think that your days meeting women is over? Yes.
Long gone. I just scrolled Instagram.
I like looking at them, though. I don't even do that no more.
I don't do that. I'm done with Instagram.
They all liars. I don't care.
They all liars. I don't care.
I'm not trying to talk to you. Yeah, I don't care.
I'm just looking. I think he means the picture is a lie.
I don't care. Okay, all right.
Fine. Hey, she a liar in the club, too.
Good point. I'm a liar in the club.
And I don't care along some hills. You know what I mean? Toes don't come over the hill.
I'm good. That's my turn off.
Damn, bitch, you bad with them low-ass shoes on. Get off my feet.
I don't like that either. This should be sliding.
I don't like that. Fuck off my feet.
Fuck the whole bitch off, dumbass. You're right.
This nigga really will zoom in on the feet on anything. Bad as hell.
I do that too, though.
I do the zoom in.
You a feet guy?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's important.
What?
It's important.
I don't even know
when they have feet.
Yo, you know what
I was laughing at?
I have a memory
of all the women's feet.
With respect,
with respect,
I was telling my girl,
I said,
yo, man,
now that I met Mark's wife,
I'm going to ask
that nigga to do Podwise.
Like, she's a professor, mad smart, mad cool, mad funny, sense of humor, fucking got along with everybody.
I was like, yo, I don't know why we always make it seem like our girl at home is the ball and chain, even though they be cool.
I never said she was.
That's what y'all always said.
Why would we get around our niggas?
You say it without saying it.
It's... the ball and chain, even though they be cool.
I never said she was. That's what y'all always said.
Why would we get around all niggas? You say it without saying it. No, you say it.
I'll say that shit. No, you say that shit, dog.
Yo, niggas' girls is cool. We talk like we got to get the fuck away from them.
We do. Why do we do that? That's part of that ego, just pride, painting a picture thing.
Something is there, yo. So niggas definitely do that.
That's part of that ego just pride painting a picture thing. Something is there, yo.
Niggas definitely do it, though. Mark took a break to go kiss his wife.
He said he had an eye injury. Mark ran to the side and got some sugar.
And it made him feel better. Something in my eye.
I went in there and I said, yeah, nigga, old age is in your eye. I had a few fake injuries to catch my breath.
Shh, don't say nothing. Yo, this couch was like heaven.
No, nigga. I tried to guard Armani full court.
Yeah, that nigga looked like a jumping bean. But y'all playing full court.
No. What? I'm saying, I picked, like, no, no, no.
He, yo, Mark got an ego. Mark got an ego.
And Mark ego and Mark is my that's what started this I'm telling you he called himself the touch ball picking Imani up 94 feet up there by the half court line the very next play I think was finished I was done that was all my energy for the rest of the day yo he was finished I I was done for the next five possessions, man. Done, Joe.
I was hollering like, yo.
That's all I had.
Then you start thinking like,
shit, in my 20s, I can do this every possession.
Now I can't do that shit.
I can do that once a day.
It's over.
I do have a bit of bad news
to report.
They are reporting that
Rafael Sadiq's brother,
Dwayne Wiggins,
of Tony Tony,
Tony Tony,
is receiving hospice
y'all know Dwayne
Dwayne yeah
y'all know Dwayne
none of them name was Tony
right
that was one of the funny things
with the group
right
god
oh my god
this is that
this is that other age shit man
we was young
our favorites got like killed
in gunfire
and random shit
now they die from like
health shit
yeah
bruh we
old
we up there
damn Thank you. other age shit, man.
When we was young, our favorites got killed in gunfire and random shit. Now they die from health shit.
Yeah. Bruh, we old.
Damn. Send strength to them, to Ralph House, to Deacon and the rest of them.
Yeah. I was in bed last night, Chris Cross, I was like, I can't believe I'm going to die one day.
I'm still not over the concept. I just don't want it to hurt.
He's right. I just don't want it to to hurt You know what I be looking at? I say the same shit My daughter When I be looking at my daughter I be like damn It's gotta live Yeah I got It's a point where I could possibly not be here And that shit fucks me up And you got young kids I think that shit You too The kids make you think You gotta live Or that you.
Live. Especially what I saw, like with my uncle that passed.
Interesting. When his daughter was 10 months old and he dies.
Yeah, why you think that? Because that's what it means. Cycle of life tension.
It don't mean you got to live. No.
It means you got to die. No, no, no.
It's a constant reminder. No, when we say that, it means I have to live for her.
Focus on your heart. I have to let my daughters know what these niggas be doing.
Unnecessary stress. If I shoot the club up tomorrow and have a beautiful, beautiful child tomorrow at 44, probability says I may not see that child hit 35.
Yeah, that's true. I'm not stressing myself with, damn, I won't see my child at 36 and 37.
No, no, no, no, you're missing that. I could be cool at 35.
No, I think what you're saying is you want to be here for as long as you can with your kids. No, and you want to maximize that time that you are here with them.
That's what I just said. But if you got, look, if I got 35 years out of it.
Oh, quality of life you're talking about. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. If I got 35 years out of it.
I have to live now. Got it.
I understand what you're saying. And not for nothing, this has only been three days.
It resonated. What has only been? The injury.
No, the injury. I'm saying the injury has only been three days.
So, dog, every morning we got like a routine. So my girl wakes up earlier than me.
My girl goes downstairs, take a shower. You don't mind.
You let your girl wake up before you? Go to bed at like 2, 3 o'clock every day. But anyway, right? So you go to bed at nine o'clock.
I'm doing paperwork at nine o'clock.
Anyway, yo, listen, let me finish my story.
So my girl wakes up.
She goes, cooks lunch.
My job is to bring my daughter downstairs, start getting a dress.
My foot is fucked up.
So I couldn't, you know what I'm saying?
I couldn't do that.
So it was like, damn, small shit like that that you might take for granted.
Now I can't do it.
So now me getting injured puts more stress on my girl to have to do all of that shit
for my daughter.
And I was like, damn, I apologize like 50 times.
Yeah.
Thank you. might take for granted.
Now I can't do it. So now me getting injured puts more stress on my girl to have to do all of that shit for my daughter.
And I was like, I apologize like 50 times. Yeah.
Yo, my bad. I'm sorry.
Thinking I'm fucking Superman. I got some breakfast and bed off my injury.
I was like, I got some breakfast and bed off my injury. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, so now like small shit like that, yo, you just like, yo, you got, you got to kind of be here for your kid.
35? If I get 35, I've given you enough game. That's how I feel about my older kids.
If I do want to get to 35, both of them, I've given them enough game that I could possibly give them. Atlantic City trip is not worth no coochie.
I don't know what that means. It's a joke.
You ain't ever seen a meme? No, I understand the joke. When they be like, yo, I'm taking my kids around the world.
I understand the joke. See your little dusty-ass son can't take her to Atlantic City and get no good.
You never seen a meme? I just shut up when your girl dads get to talking. I mean, sometimes when I lay down and I think, I'm like, damn, one day.
No, because I never be. No.
No comment. We don't never hear that side of the girl that, nah, that's true, nah.
It ain't worth it, girl.
Don't go.
I be thinking that one day I'm not going to be here.
You hear the other side.
Yeah, it's because, come on.
For all the bitches y'all slid,
for all the lies that you've told,
for all the tricks, the maneuvers,
late night runs.
You ask me how many of them dad was there for? I said, you asked me how many of them dad was there for?
I said you asking me how many of them dad was there for?
No, I didn't ask you that at all.
Oh, okay.
I just say when you take it all into account.
So you trying to say it's going to happen back to our children?
Well, hold up.
For all of the tricks you've done,
and at this present point in time and where the universe and the planets aligned, y'all doing great. Like, y'all don't think God is spinning at no time? No.
Got it. Nope.
I don't even know what you're talking about. Karma.
Karma, yeah. Fuck out of here, nigga.
Nobody, we're going it. So let me ask you a question.
We're going to try to invest it.
So you think that all in your shoes.
Our daughter's going to be at Harris.
What the fuck y'all talking about?
He don't think that neither.
He going to laugh loud.
Let him do it.
Let him do it.
Yeah, go play something. That's right.
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Yeah, hey. It's the thug.
It's the thug. Yo.
Why would you think niggas. And the future thugs.
Yo, chill out. Whoa.
Why would you think niggas. They got my kids at Bally's.
Oh, my God. Nobody wants their daughter to deal with a nigga like her.
Like, I wouldn't want my daughter to deal with a nigga like me. I try to prevent her from dealing with a nigga like me.
That is a revelation. I don't want her to do that.
She serves better. I'm a better father.
Because we do go for men that remind us of our fathers. I don't want that.
She's not going to... His daughter don't see that side of him.
She don't see that side of him. Who knows what she's seen.
She don't see that side of him. Who knows what she's seen.
You'd be surprised the shit that kids see. Cool.
What do you think you get from them? But I put the best face on for my children. Right.
And I'm very upfront and I'm communicative. Yo, I was doing this shit at your age.
Yo, watch the boys that's trying to even ask you for anything. Watch them niggas.
Because this is what I was doing. I'm very straight up with her.
And I let her know. Because if you participate in that, first of all, it's going to make you look crazy and it's going to break my heart.
Two things. I try to do manipulative tactics.
You have to. You have to.
I definitely tell my daughter. Yo, I made a page on MySpace called Pops on Blast, nigga.
That shit was all on like the shit I was doing. You was wild.
Okay, I got you. I was wilding.
I don't want that shit for my daughter to go through that. Play your fucking music, nigga.
Wait till you have your daughter. I'm going to fuck you up.
wait till you have your daughter I'm gonna fuck you up wait till you have your daughter you have twin girls nigga twin Indian daughters nigga my papa told me not to fuck that guy and still rules that I should abide but I met that nigga in that car and he sold drugs so drunk. He could be 54, he could be 10.
I grew up with all the love from dad. But I left with this dude who was in his bag.
And Papa tried to help, but I sucked his dick. Then I went on.
You can take him to day flip.
You can take him to day flip.
That was really good on the fly. That was solid freestyle though.
That was solid.
That's some solid freestyling right there.
You know that funny?
Right.
You singing that about your nigga?
Wait.
And he's so drunk.
I don't know what the fuck he talking about.
I don't know what the fuck he talking about.
He get the fuck out of here with that.
He ain't talking about my daughter. He is not talking about this one.
He's so drunk. He said whatever the fuck he talking about.
I don't know who the fuck he talking about. He get the fuck out of here with that.
He ain't talking about my daughter.
He is not talking about this one.
He said whatever the fuck he want.
At least let the hook get to it.
You gotta stop.
Now, for real, what y'all think this song's about?
I don't know.
I never heard it before.
We don't care, bro.
Please.
Hey.
What'd you say to him, my dog?
What'd you say to dad?
I made up my mind.
I'm not my baby. She keeping that shit.
She keeping her baby. You dead ass, man.
I fucking love this song. It's a great song.
That's a slap. You joining this nigga.
You know me and the 80s music as soon as it plays. Come on, now.
I'm some white 80s music. I can't help myself.
I'm going to be the adult in the room for a minute and say that we have created some tension in the room. How? Y'all seem bothered by this.
I don't give up. I'm ignoring that shit.
They ain't paying me no money. You look irritated.
I was out. I'm balling.
He texting his daughter and shit. He ain't paying me no money.
I'm not paying that nigga no money. Okay, then we good.
Yeah, we're great. I promise.
cause he be around my kids he be around them they come up in that shit don't stop with girls it don't family issues don't stop with girls clean up no I'm telling you like that shit don't matter but you know what it is a lot of times dudes be more hype about like no dude that I know is that upset about Their son getting in Some wild shit Crazy outside It depends on Wild shit got levels That's true Wild shit got levels But like nobody's like Oh my son's 15 Eating pussy Right Your son No I'm just saying A lot of people don't Talk I'm not saying They write it wrong Your son's 15 Come home sucking dick Then what I mean it wouldn't bother me Fathers do You always make it gay We don't talk. I'm not saying they write it wrong.
When you son 15, come home sucking dick, then what? I mean, it wouldn't bother me. Nigga, fathers do.
You always make it gay. We don't care.
Right. If he's gay, he's gay.
If we don't care, you always try to make us trans. I mean, I'm not trans.
It's not about homophobic. Homophobic.
Yeah. But nobody wants to think about their daughter being out there at 16, 17, 15, doing anything, nigga.
So don't think about that. No.
But when you fucking highlight and play music and look at me in my eyes. I think it was the freestyle.
Yeah. It was the pop freestyle.
No one like that. He's so drunk.
Yeah, you want some jokes. The shit that you do, you sell ass for this shit.
For your joint. The shit you do on this camera, I'm going to get you.
I think it was the second thing. This nigga, why? He ruffled the feathers.
Huh? Why? I mean, it's entertaining, but in all reality. We know he don't feel this way in reality, but it's just.
No, he might. He might.
Also, while we're talking about Madonna telling her dad that she wants to keep the baby, it's being reported, and I say that loosely, Say Cheese is reporting. Anthony Edwards, I believe Say Cheese.
They don't be wrong a lot.
He's one of the ones I'd be believing.
Anthony Edwards allegedly filed a motion
claiming that he does not want visitation
or custody of his four-month-old daughter
with Aisha Howard.
That's rough.
Where does everybody stand?
A lot of niggas feel that way.
It just takes a special kind of person
to write that shit on paper.
Especially when the whole world's gonna see it.
Because your kid is gonna see that later too that you didn't want that. Just do old school and don't show up.
Just do it like everybody else's old man did. I'll be there in 15.
I think you just got some growing up to do. And he's going to change his mind later? That's dismissive.
Okay. Now, I'm not saying it's not true, but it's dismissive of the let's pretend that we're talking about a man that's older than him that's vocalizing his non-parental rights.
That's saying I'm signing over all parental rights to you. I told you I want nothing to do with it.
I really don't want anything to do with the child or you. I'm signing over my rights.
I think it's fucked up. I don't want to say that the person that feels that way has to grow up because it be mature men that feel like they're just a human.
I don't think that's mature men that's saying that. I don't care what age you are.
I think if you, I mean, listen, we know how, we ain's stupid, we know how babies is made. And you put yourself into that, now you have to deal with that.
And if you choose to just walk away, I think that's some immature coward shit. That's my take.
Nobody has to agree with that. But I feel differently about parenting.
I think it's bigger than you. And you made this child, you don't just get to walk away.
The moms ain't just, she's stuck. She can't just say, never mind, I'm cool.
She could right now. No, the child, ain't the child here? Four months old.
Four months old. I'm sorry, I'm thinking four months pregnant.
Forgive me. Yeah, no, four months old.
Got you, yeah. I mean, she had a moment to make that choice.
Right. Yeah, she could still make that choice.
Yeah, even with the child in, she can make that choice. Adoption, foster.
I got you. that's, y'all can.
No, no, I agree with you that I think it's cowardly. I don't, I don't like the idea of abandoning your kids.
I think no matter what the situation is you gotta be there once the kid is here you just gotta make that choice. But I agree with you that I don't think it's necessarily immaturity per se.
I think just some people are fucked up. Yeah, some people just feel that way.
Yeah, and they just fucked up people. You know what I mean? Yeah.
I don't know. Anybody else? My stance is the same as Ice and last time we talked about this, this was my stance as well.
Like we brought up the whole topic of her keeping it knowing he has a track record. He has a track record of doing this.
So I don't know.
I feel like there was many conversations that should have taken place before this even happens to avoid this shit.
Or if she was just looking for a lick, you hit the lick.
Cool.
You're going to get the money from it.
That's all.
That's all you want it.
That's true.
It's a win win.
He don't want nothing to do with you or the child.
He just want to be there financially.
You might not just want this nigga.
You just want the money.
I don't know you.
I'm go. I want you to sign off.
Hey, text me if that motherfucker started playing the drummer earlier than he's supposed to Not once you sign the paperwork No no I can still come back Develop a relationship Yeah Yeah I can still come back Hey Let me know If he jumping at the walker If he jumping at the walker Stupid Let me know If he's Picasso With the crayon I am gonna come to come around. If he three feet at 18 months, holler.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
I ain't going to front.
I be thinking about who some of the dads that wasn't there.
Where LeBron dad at?
Look, he got to be the sick one.
He's some mad as shit.
That nigga is sick somewhere.
This don't take much to be a black dad.
If he had just showed up to like one skate party.
Shaq dad.
Like some of y'all kids is going to grow up and dominate. Yo, this about to sound fucked up.
Some of them might not make it to that if dad was there. Some of them.
I'm just saying. Some of them, you hear them talk, they use that shit as like fuel.
So some of them niggas might not have became that if dad was there. Yeah, Shaq would have been just fine.
If the son or the child that I didn't want turned into fucking Serena Williams, guess who's going to be at the U.S. Open? Yo, you got them tickets for an elevator plus one.
Yo, two tickets. And I got to make up a lie for what I've been doing for 25 years.
I got to, whoa, busy, busy. Know what they do? Nah.
I got to make something up bad. That's when they blame moms.
They blame the moms. This is not a doobie to mom.
This is not a doobie to mom. It It do be the mom, but if you're trying to reinsert yourself into the kid's life, you can't blame it on mom.
The kid loves mom. You got to own it yourself.
Yeah, I was in jail. Damn traffic.
Shit. The holes, the holes.
Man, I've been trying to drive to you now. 13 years.
License is fucked up, man. I just got right.
Man, LeBron look just like his pops too. I just go with it.
Nigga, if LeBron is my bad kid. He look just like his father, yo.
I'm back, buddy. Anthony McClellan.
I'm back. And he played basketball, too.
Nigga, pops, look. I'd change my name to James.
I'd be Anthony James, yo. I'm talking about LeBron.
Shit, if it was Byron Russell, shit, I'd have been back. Right, don't take much.
It would have taken much for me to come back. That nigga, whole father name on the broadcast.
Love for, love for. I can't believe Zoe, Zoe's husband.
Fucking, she's a, he's a fucking, what a mutt. Let me see, what else, what else, what else? You think that's muttish? I think that's muttish.
Why would you do that? I just don't understand why somebody would do that. He hyphenated his name.
No, hyphenated I can understand. Did he hyphen or did he just take her name? No, he hyphenated it.
Oh, hyphenated I respect. I'm fine with hyphenated.
Still a pussy. I wouldn't do it but I respect it.
Still a pussy. What's wrong with hyphenating? Be a man.
Well, the hyphen part his name is before. So it ends in...
Saldana? Yeah. I could live with that too.
I think hyphenating it my personal belief is just keep your name. I don't own you.
You know what I mean? My wife has her name. I got my name.
I'm good with that. But I know people who say as a family we want to be able to walk in.
And for women a lot of times. Well, your wife didn't take your name? No.
I didn't want her to. Neither of us wanted to.
Same with mine. Yeah, same, right? Yeah.
And also, you know, and then there's the Latin American thing where, you know, you have different names and like naming is different, you know, but. No, I don't know.
Yeah, it's like so sometimes like a lot of times kids will take kids will take like both names of the parents. You know what I mean? And then and then as you as you go down the line and one name gets knocked off and the next name comes on.
So that's a way of acknowledging both parents. So it's not this thing where just like the dad's name takes over everybody's identity.
So what do you do with your male dominance there now how you feel I save it for I save it for financial abuse except for after the game the other day your son got your last name off he hyphenated he got both of it he has both our names and my daughters have the same thing we all hyphenated with them and I'm good with that you know what I mean like I don't need that but I know people who say like as a family unit we all want to have the same last name yeah and I'm okay with that you know Hov hyphenated right I thought that I was gonna bring that up I wasn't sure that's not Hov's Ho wait so he's he's Carter Knowles Knowles Carter both of them oh she didn't think that's dope don't you fucking mouth talking about hoes like that? Are you crazy?
Don't be disrespectful like that. Let me see this shit.
You think that Jay-Z is Sean Carter Knowles?
Sean Knowles Carter.
Carter.
If so, shout out to him.
I think that's dope.
Well, it's...
I think hyphenated...
Mel, would you want your husband
to hyphenate?
Y'all trying to trick me
into saying something.
Yo, you see me over here?
Hands folded.
What is the issue?
I'm about to start twiddling my thumb.
I want to hear your stance.
Mel, let them get their 1v1.
Your question,
I would definitely keep my name
because my name is my name.
It's my stage name.
It's my real name.
So I would keep...
No, it could still be your stage name.
Yeah.
Nah.
No, his last name is...
Jay-Z's last name is not hyphenated.
Okay.
I'm cool with the hyphenation,
but...
Thank you. No, it could still be your stage name.
Yeah. Nah.
No, his last name, Jay-Z's last name is not hyphenated. Okay.
I'm cool with the hyphenation, but my name would be on the end of the hyphenate. And Zoe Saldana's husband doesn't believe in...
You said your name would be on the end of the hyphenation. Yes.
If you got married. Yes.
Oh, you don't want to get married. Hold on.
Hold that thought. Because Zoe Saldana's husband does not believe in typical gender wars.
He stays home and raises their kids. Because of the success of her career, this is just the role that he is.
So we're the Saldana's. So the more successful one determines how this last name thing is going.
Not necessarily. For me, it's about just what flows better.
You know what I mean? And things like that. Like, if you name him Krzyzewski, another one is Smith.
Like, Krzyzewski-Smith might just flow better. You know what I'm saying? That's how I would think about it.
To me, it's not who got more money or who's more dominant. It's just what flows better.
I think my girl did mention something about trying to preserve her dad's legacy. And then I had to have the uncomfortable talk.
Yeah, I'm daddy. Wow.
That is like literally patriotic. Pops up in heaven.
Yeah. With all the respect, boy.
You birthed a good one here. But uh.
Give me that legacy. Daddy got it.
Daddy got it from here. I got from here No daddy got it now Mel Ford ain't gonna be On the end of nothing That Ford's gonna be Crashing on the highway Somewhere Ford If you don't get that Ford shit out of here Are you crazy Let me see Who's this And Mel would you feel Okay with your Oh this is Zoe shit I tried telling y'all What Zoe's the most She might be the most successful female actor.
She up there with Julia Robertson.
She's big.
She's in Avatar, MCU.
She's the fucking action hero.
Literally Sigourney Weaver passed the fucking baton to her.
She's big.
Mel, you said what?
Huh? She's also dominant in a relationship.
Okay.
Mel, would dude take your name or would it be y'all say separate? Like is he Michael Smith? It would definitely be a conversation. It would definitely be a conversation because I feel like the type of man that I would end up wouldn't just, he ain't going to be a beta.
He's going to want to have a conversation about this. Gotcha.
Do you think it's possible to be an alpha man and take your name? You like alpha man? Nope. Yes.
You like alpha man. You can't walk in the way.
You can't get up, Ish. You can't get up.
All right, leave yourself. The conversation gonna be over before you walk up.
If you say your thought, you can leave. Just say your thought.
Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
Come on, man. I don't have a thought.
This is a broadcast. Alpha, alpha, alpha, alpha cat.
This is such bullshit. Let's go Ish..
Break it down. So you want these men to be traditional men when it's convenient.
Traditional women took the last name of their husbands. Talk about it, nigga.
You are honoring your husband. You're not honoring your father.
Who says that, though? Me. And tradition.
Yeah. So tradition.
And tradition. Me too, nigga.
But patriarchy is... Tradition is made Let him finish.
Let him finish. I would love to keep speaking.
So now you're saying that
the patriarchy don't exist
when the lady, again,
is the CEO of Xerox.
Look at his feet.
When the lady is the CEO of Xerox,
then the patriarchy
goes out the window.
You can't take you seriously.
You can't take you seriously.
You can't take your feet up like that.
Yo, look at me.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, come on.
Get the fuck out of here, my nigga.
Like, y'all want to be men
or y'all don't?
She got the Maury's on.
The men don't...
These are the way they motherfucker.
The manhood don't come and go
with the lady's convenience.
But is it possible
I'm going to go. out of here, my nigga.
Like, y'all want to be men or y'all don't? She got the Maury's on. The men don't, the manhood don't come and go
with the ladies' convenience.
But is it possible
to think about
saying I like tradition
but say some traditions
just aren't good anymore?
Yeah, when they're convenient
for your specific...
They're picking and choosing.
Why does everybody say
pick and choose?
You're supposed to pick and choose.
I'm not disagreeing.
But if you live your life
like that, then that's fine.
I'm totally with that.
I am totally with homeboys
sitting at home raising those kids. And I don't
look at him like less of a man at all.
If my wife is out here doing 20 million
per film, then nigga, I'm going to sit home
how you like your eggs, honey. I don't have a
problem with that at all. And that don't take away from
my masculinity and I still run my household.
I've dated women that had way more money
than me and I still was the man in that
particular relationship. What we do today in society is we we attach dominance to the to the finance.
Yeah, and that's fucked up So now when the man makes more money people shun. Oh, yo, he treating her like shit Yo, he treating her like she's subservient But then when the nigga makes less money than he automatically becomes subservient that's accepted.
So we can't have it both ways.
It's bullshit.
Right.
If it's based on morality and it's based on a stance, let's keep that stance across the
board regardless of who brings in more money.
Let's go big ish.
I hear that.
I guess I, from the same mark, smoke mail, smoke, smoke on that mail pack, smoke on that
M&M, smoke on that A. Smoke on that Ford.
Smoke on that Ford. No, my God.
Don't let that go.
Smoke on that Ford.
Smoke on that Ford pack.
Never, man. Must be talking about Harrison Ford.
No, listen. Not this Ford.
Hold on, guys. The reality of my particular lived experience is that I have bucked tradition.
I have lived my life in a way that I have bucked tradition. So I think that I have the bandwidth to, yes,
pick and choose what I feel like is acceptable to me
in terms of what is considered tradition
and what is fucking antiquated
and rooted in fucking patriarchy.
Antiquation.
Here's the thing that I think Ish is right about.
I think that women, I can't speak for you personally,
but there are women who will say
that they don't want tradition and traditional gender roles,
but there are moments where they want what they
call benevolent patriarchy. Like you
still want the door hell for you.
Let me finish. I'm not speaking for you.
Hold on one second here.
Is that just not manners or
chivalry?
What's the difference
between, what is the difference?
That's just manners. That's just fucking good manners.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Manners, why wouldn't manners also include you holding the door for me? I can.
I can and I would. But Mel, but Mel, but Mel.
Sit the fuck down. But Mel, but Mel, if you and I win, but a lot of times, there's men who will not let you touch a fucking door.
And that's them. That is on them.
That is the role that they want to play. I don't disagree with you
but let's say hypothetically
I wasn't married
and you and I went on a date.
Actually, let me not use me.
Let's say you and gentlemen
don't use me.
No, you.
You and you.
We grown, man.
Use you.
Okay, so hypothetically
you and I go on a date.
I suspect
that if I didn't open
the doors for you
you'd judge me.
At the end of the date
and I just let the door close
or if I didn't pick up the check
that there would be a thing of, yo, what kind of dude? Butter in the pan. Because there's an expectation of what I'm supposed to do.
The fire are hot too. No, we're just talking.
Y'all clear out. So when I hear you say chivalry, even chivalry are expectations of what manners look like that are gendered because chivalry is me opening the door for you.
It's not you opening the door for me. So I think sometimes when we say we're traditional or we're non-traditional, to Ish's point, we are picking and choosing.
I'm okay with picking and choosing. But I think we have to sometimes be more self-aware about how invested in some of those patriarchal traditions we are, especially when they benefit us.
Okay, so hold on. Mark is on the guy's side.
I fuck with Mark. Let him respond, nigga.
Yo, when Mark is on the... Let him respond, nigga.
No, no, let us tell jokes in between. No, let him respond, nigga.
When Mark is for the men, that's my favorite, nigga. Ah, yeah.
He don't play with me for the men. All right, go ahead, man.
Let's just the Mary Clarence respond. Let's get it.
I think that with the example of opening doors, if somebody walks through a door and lets it fucking slam in your face, it's fucking rude, regardless of gender. That's number one.
Number two, I have found myself in Southern states and I try to open the open door for myself and they will not let me because that's their custom. That is just how they believe.
That is how they are raised. And they say, you Northern girls are like that.
You always want to do shit on your fucking own fucking own and i'm like maybe that is in fact true because we're so fucking used to it so it is not it's not something that i would go back and report to my friends oh this motherfucker didn't open the door for me because i wouldn't even be literally thinking about it so first date you have no expectation of him paying the bill honestly honestly if he has asked me to go out with him come on no waste the time with lies no i'm because there was a day no one's attacking Stop! Honestly, honestly. If he has asked me to go out with him...
Mel, come on. Don't waste the time.
We're lies. Mel's lying.
No, I'm... Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! No attacking her! Stop! Stop.
It's a date that Mel went on and she came up here and told us she didn't go on a second date because the man didn't do something that he was supposed to do traditionally. What was it? I forgot.
Exactly. Okay, so anyways, your argument sucks.
You remember? We remember, but let her finish, nigga. If you have asked me out on a date, if this is not just us getting together and this was not planned or whatever the case is and we don't have anything romantic going on, then I'm pulling out my credit card at the end of the fucking date and I'm offering to pay fucking half.
I do not walk around with the assumption that the man is going to pay just because I'm here. If you have asked me out on a date, yes, I absolutely believe you should pay for it.
And if you're dating somebody, say you go on five dates, 10 dates. There's going to be times where I get the bill.
Okay. That's just, and is that a progressive way of thinking or is that a traditional way of thinking? I'm asking.
And so that's the tradition that I don't believe in. That's the tradition that I think can be moved forward in a progressive manner.
Interesting. Okay.
Now, y'all know I support lying in podcasts. You do.
You encourage it. Yeah, I encourage it.
Hold on. Maybe I need to make something clear.
That is if I'm in a relationship. What is? The last statement that I made that's the that's what I was saying in a relationship Wow, oh, why would that matter if you're in a relationship? Why would that matter? He got her you blew it.
She blew it. I got her back into the debate.
Why why would it matter? Doesn't matter y'all. That's no that That's true because that's his point.
Why is the point because you are now if you're not in a relationship and you're expecting this man to do certain things predicated on his gender courting you then it diffuses the whole point that there's a expectation based on gender for men to do X like me and you have always been platonic we We've been out a million times. You've never reached for the check once.
I mean... What? Nothing.
She pointed at him. Nothing.
I don't know who she pointed at. I think she pointed at both of us.
I just didn't get the joke. Nothing.
Nothing. Never mind.
No, but... No, no, no.
That's a whole other ball of wax. I think I understand Joe's point, and Joe's point is if we friends and we cool
and you saying
if we go out to eat,
then there are times
that you reach for your wallet.
Why didn't you reach
for your wallet
when we went out?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
Like, when I do it,
that is the patriarchal scale
and the gender
and the expectations.
That's what that is.
I don't mind it.
I'm not throwing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a beat.
As a man,
that's what we should do. That's a beat.
So, but that is what they saying. Yeah.
And you down with that is all we be saying. Olive Branch, white flag.
I don't got it anymore. And it's not a beef thing.
It's not a bad thing. Because I think men also have that.
Like as progressive as I am, there are certain things that I don't let women do. Yeah.
A thousand percent. Because, and it's patriarchy, some of it's patriarchy some of it's expectation like I know that if I take a woman on a date no matter how progressive she knows I am when I was dating if I don't pay the bill she's not going to say oh that nigga so progressive he thinks we have gender equality he can be like that nigga cheap she can be like that nigga cheap you know I mean so some of it is just how to work expected it's just how the world works and so some of it we play and also it's like there's way too many nuances, which is why I'm saying olive branch, white flag.
Because there's way too many nuances involved in the conversation.
Because the fact of the matter is that the longer that you start to see somebody in the courtship progresses and closeness starts to develop and stuff like that, then a synergy starts to happen.
A lot of things are developing where understanding starts to come into play. You know what I'm saying? No, that's true.
That's true. And every situation is different.
I'm just saying that I think a lot of times we fall into these traditional roles even when we think we don't. And we just don't see it.
And it's easier, even for me, like for example, like I don't want to cook. So it's easy for me to fall into, or better example because my wife doesn't neither of us really cook but like washing clothes I don't want to wash clothes I fucking hate washing clothes she has no more of a duty to wash clothes than I do but she does it she cleans the house 99 times more than I do and I just let her do it I just fall into that and that's patriarchy whereas I wouldn't do that about fixing her car.
When it's time for a car to get fixed, I just jump in and do it because that's my instinct. It's just because I think as a dude I'm supposed to be doing that.
Do you think that... See, my household is just the opposite.
So I wash dishes, I clean, I do all of that shit. I don't think it's patriarchy.
I just look at... That's how I vision it.
I don't look at it like that's my girl's role you understand what I'm saying like if my girl cleans the kitchen that day she just cleans the kitchen that day but typically I clean the kitchen because I'm up late so my girl go to sleep that's my that's right but it's not a role but it's not based on my it's both of y'all realizing this shit has to get done and that's if she would walk in this house late and try to clean this kitchen. Boy, I hit you with a problem.
But the other thing is that us trying to be progressive, we're less likely to talk about gender roles and refer to our mates as partners. We refer to them as partners now.
And when we call each other partners, our expectation is this is a partnership. So this is shared responsibilities kind of thing.
So it's less of a gender role assignment and it's just about we have decided to cohabitate, we've decided to have a family so whatever, wherever the slack is, somebody gotta pick that shit up. Exactly.
And I'm just saying, I'm more likely, the last thing I'll say is, I'm just likely to let some slack go up. With the washing clothes.
And it's usually very traditional. Like I'm not, like I'm And it's usually very traditional.
I'm not going to let the tire change and slack go, but I will definitely let some draws get in. I don't play my girl touching garbage.
I've been like that with anybody. I'm not cool with that.
You're not taking the garbage out. The most you can do, take the bag out right there and tie it.
That's it. But you don't talk.
The sad part about it. It's gender shit.
No, that's big. I'm not.
Shut your ass. Tradition.
We would love for tradition to work both ways, but we can't because life is evolving every day. Double standards exist.
Double standards exist. Yep.
I do want my wife to wash dishes. I do want my wife to do the
laundry. Not because I
can't do it, because
she's better at it than me.
Get in that kitchen. Maybe because you got all the practice
from doing it all the time.
You never do it.
You don't wash the whites with the colors.
Yeah.
I may wash the white clothes
with cold water.
I just made this. clothes with cold water.
You know what I'm saying? I just made this. I know.
Anime? Yeah. Not anime.
No, no, no. I'm one of the cooks.
You tell me, you know, just do your thing. Anime.
Everybody made a lot of sense. In closing, that Ford is going in the junk drawer.
Shut up. Word.
It ain't going to be on the head. I'm team Ford, nigga.
You crazy. That's what Harrison Ford said, nigga.
You can throw that shit to Hudson River to Ford, nigga. We'll see.
Hyphenated Ford. Get the fuck out of here.
Also, happy to report, the police are saying they have identified all of the suspects in that horrific shooting with a homie and his daughter. Oh, good.
They have active warrants out. Get them.
Yeah. Si, Saquon got paid? Saquon got some swaggy? 20 plus a year.
Two-year extension, 40-something. 40 million, 41.
I don't feel like enough. He earned every dollar.
You know what? I'm thinking basketball numbers. He's the last-paid running back in the league, I think.
Okay, there was. It's the highest, I think, ever.
By far. Is that? Okay, okay.
I don't know enough about football tonight. He was fighting with the Giants to get 13.
I thought it was 15. 13.
The Giants. The Giants wouldn't give him 13? No, they would not give him 13 million.
They gave Danny Dimes 40. And I told y'all that these running backs that are up for renewal next season are going to change the entire market.
And that just set the standard. Jameer Gibbs, B.
John Robinson, Christian McCaffrey,
Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry.
And now that Saquon just did that,
what are you going to tell a young early 20s Jameer Gibbs
he can't get?
Right.
Oh, he's going to tell you that.
He's a threat out the backfield,
catching the ball and running the ball.
There's nothing I can't do.
What?
You got to give him 16, 17.
You got to give him 18.
He's young still. Well, we on football.
How do y'all feel about Debo to Washington? I don't care. I care.
I care. I know you're better about that you do.
Fuck you, dude. I care.
Yeah. Why you care? I'm a Cowboys fan.
What that mean? They're in our conference. Division.
It's stopped. Enough now.
He still thinks The Cowboys can win You like me Bro
None of that matters
I still want my team
To have a shot at winning
It makes sense
I'm a fan of the team
So yeah
I'm gonna still root for my team
Bro you should
I'm just saying
Neither outcome
Will lead to a different situation
Y'all gonna be in last place
Deebo wasn't
Yeah
That wasn't the reason
You want some money
You want some money
You gonna be in last place
I like taking these niggas money up here
I don't know enough
About football to bet on it
I just know the Cowboys ain't shit
We ain't
This year
We won shit
Thank you. I like taking these niggas money up here I don't know enough about football to bet on it I just know the Cowboys ain't shit We ain't this year I don't like what they do on the Shadour I didn't have that on the board But I don't like what they do on the Shadour Or Cam Ward even for that matter He seems fine to me I haven't heard anything about He's most of the boards.
No question. What they're doing to Shadour is he's too arrogant.
He's too this. Didn't interview well.
We got him dropping late in the 20s. The gap between him and Cam Ward is bigger than the gap between him and Jackson Dart or whatever the rest of the quarterbacks are.
But below him, they got him dropping. They started to do the mock drafts where his name is just being totally disrespected.
I don't know what's happening out there, but I don't like what's happening with Shadour. How good is he? He's good.
He's pretty good. I mean, if you're going off what you've seen on film, do you expect him to be like a— who's as comparable in the NFL today? Who would be a comparable player? What's my man name from...
The Falcons? He plays similar to... The Cardinals? No, nowhere near.
He's not mobile like that. I like the Tua comp.
Okay. I like the Tua comp.
He's not mobile like that. He's two-ish.
Okay. From what I've seen.
The way they slander his name, I don't know if the Giants take him if he's there. Y'all ain't going to take him because he black.
I've heard that they're trying to trade him for Cam. That package that I saw looked absolutely ridiculous to trade up to the first pick.
What was the package? Y'all giving away the house? It was our third pick from this year, our second round pick from this year, our second round pick for next year, a player. It was mad shit.
Some old Hershel Walker type shit. Some Hershel Walker shit.
And the team ain't going to be shit. Hell no.
And that's the thing. The team ain't going to be shit because you're going to give up mad shit, and now he's going to be stuck in the same situation with no O-line.
Hold up. Their offensive line isn't horrible, and they got my man Neighbors.
Neighbors is a problem. You put a good quarterback there, you put Cam Ward there, they're going to be a good football team.
They're going to be something you have to deal with. And their defense is not – there's pieces.
There's pieces. The Giants are not that horrible.
They're not as in bad shape as, like, the Patriots, even though they have a lot of cap room. They're not in the worst, worst place in the world, Except for the quarterback.
Yo, keep it in the book. They never were.
They always had,
but without,
you know what I'm saying?
Without the quarterback.
Y'all know,
I don't think Danny Dimes
is a bum like that.
I don't think he's horrible,
but I think Cam was bad.
I think they O-line was trash.
That's why Saquon kept getting hurt
year after year after year.
Because they O-line wasn't shit. Danny Dimes don't be getting a chance to throw the ball and they didn't have a number one.
Malik Neighbors is a certified bona fide number one. So we'll see.
Cuomo running for mayor is interesting to me, but we toward the end. We don't have to get into that right this second.
And I think he's leading polls with all that. He's going like it.
I think a good majority of New York are still Cuomo fans even with how he was outed. I think the country in general is kind of going back looking at some of the cancellations that happened.
And being like, maybe, yeah, maybe that was a little. My nigga, how can you justify picking a president that got 30 sexual
allegation charges and
ousting the governor that had
one or two with no proof?
This nigga got convicted. He's the
president. This dude got accused
and he had to step down.
And when they
made him step down, his
ranking was way up there.
Because post-COVID he was the man. He was America's leader.
He was post-COVID. He was him.
And we thought he'd be the next presidential. Yeah, they thought he was going to run.
So I think that, I just think he has a way of talking to the people. He resonates with common Americans.
I think that's his strength. And I think they've learned a lesson, too.
I mean, you look at Al Franken, for example, you know, powerful senator in Minnesota. He stepped away for a very small charge relative to what some of these other Republicans have been accused of.
I'm not defending what Al Franken did. I don't even know what Al Franken did exactly because I just don't remember.
But I do know that I think Democrats have learned a lesson that they're playing by two different rules. They keep stepping aside.
Our Republicans be like, yeah, I pulled my dick out. I don't care.
I'm'm running again and you're going to vote for me. And they do.
And I jerked it. Right.
You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, what's the charge? Lewdiness is when you jerked it. Yes.
Right? Yes. I don't know.
They lewd. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think just the Democrats are pussies.
Yeah. So, Andrew Cuomo might be the return of some courage for them.
You know what I mean? Even though I don't like him, I hate Eric Adams, so I'll take it. And that part.
That's the part, too. New Yorkers, by and large, I think, are...
Nigga, Eric Adams versus Mario Cuomo. Landslide.
That's a nice fight. That's just a...
That's the tank. No one ain't.
Tell me more. Cuomo's putting that nigga to sleep in the third round.
I don't even think it's close. I wasn't talking about Billy Results.
Oh. I'm talking about the personalities.
The muck slinging. Oh.
Right. Those two personalities.
On the campaign. Oh my God.
And in a primary too. Yeah.
In a New York primary. Because you really get a good primary challenge.
Cuomo's a New Yorker, B. He is.
Cuomo is a New Yorker. Talks like it, walks like it.
Talks like it, walks like it. Eric Adams ain't the fuck out of here.
Eric Adams not a New Yorker? Fuck out of here. He is.
He hardcore. I'm talking about Eric Adams got on TV and was like, hey, fuck Kansas.
New York got a spirit about us. Eric Adams been talking that New York shit for a while.
I don't think that's... He was a Brooklyn police.
I just think Cuomo has the edge in how he handled the pandemic
before they did that shit.
I just think how he talks and he resonates with the people.
Eric Adams from Inception, from the first day,
niggas was like, yeah?
Yeah, he was a plurality.
Niggas like, yeah?
Yeah.
He's somebody that was like, all right, of all these people,
he's the least, he's the one we hate the least.
Yeah.
Whereas Andrew Cuomo, people stand up for and want.
And with Eric Adams, yeah, Puff at the time. Jay, all of them.
He had Hove at the time. Angie, all of them.
Steve Stout at the time. I don't know if he has all of that this go around.
He might have Puff. I hit the round of applause.
A few quick hits. Hove Fowl's defamation suit on Busby and the Jane Doe accuser.
Round applause go hove go hove go hove we support you and we love you uh casey anthony has a really weird rebrand going on right now i guess i'll tell you about it on patreon but she's a weirdo uh i don't know what future has going on with this little young girl but but it's a constant reminder not to fuck young girls. Is she young? Yes.
She's older than me. She looks older than me.
Yeah, she ain't look young. Don't give me the line.
I'm going based off her behavior. Oh, yeah.
Mentally young. Yeah, I'm going based off her behavior.
Like her face didn't look that young. We got to rest in peace for Skype.
There is no more Skype.
Skype is officially a wrap.
Skype used to hold it down.
We sad.
You know I'm sad.
You know I'm sad, boy.
Fucking nasty nigga.
Skype.
Gmail chat.
Oovoo.
All them shits.
Come on now.
Gchat was the shit.
Oh my God.
That was fire.
When they added that little
video feature, it was over. Yeah.
What else? What else? What else? I had something else, but I don't remember it. I don't remember it right now.
I don't. I'm sleepers.
Sleepers. Which get those sleepers.
I'm going in the vault. I'm going in the vault for this one.
I don't know if this is available on your phone or on DSPs.
This is Division.
One in a million.
Whoa.
I don't know if this was a SoundCloud era or what. I don't think it's out there.
Shout out to the division. Daniel, what's good? Baby, you don't know what you're doing to me.
Between me and you. I feel like chemistry.
I don't want no one. Come and take your place.
Just love me again. And can't be with us.
See no one else Let me let you That's why I'm mine To spend my life with you Won't beat you In any way I can I want you in my world Don't you understand Your love is the one in a million It goes on and on and on You give me it all day long Your love is a one in a million It goes on and on and on You give me a really good feeling All day long I know I'm in the cause of my sorrow I know I'm in the cause of my sorrow I know I'm in the cause of nothing I only want to see you laughing I only want to see you laughing In the name And I know that your love is mine. You go on and on and on.
You give me a really good feeling. You go on and on and on.
Your love is running on my heart
You're so lonely, love
You give me a breath
Don't let me down Oh, yeah. Ayy All is on your own All is on your own All is on your own All is on your own All is on your own Spread new old music, that is Division That is their one in a million Division remix I wish Division get back in they bag A remix in the R&B records that's already out Give us a lil' tape of that Shout out to them I'm not sure it's available on your phone or in DSPs But shout out to Division friends of the show Before we continue, off of that Anthony Edwards news that we reported earlier Anthony Edwards gets a win in court after a judge ruled that Aisha Howard's child support case she filed in California has no jurisdiction.
Anthony claims Aisha lives in Georgia, despite her claims that she moved to California before giving birth. He alleges she gave birth to their daughter and filed her case in California in an attempt to get more child support.
So, small win. Yeah.
Again, back to what I was just saying. It seemed like she had it for a bag.
She had the baby for a bag, and he don't want nothing to do with it. Don't get pregnant and try to foul in California, goddammit.
No, no. Foul in Tennessee.
Where the fuck I met you at? The fuck you talking about? California. You shouldn't mean.
She tried it. Yeah, yeah.
She tried it. That speaks volumes.
Yeah. All right, Alright what we got man Um I'm playing something Off this gym album Wow This is Back in the Day Off of At the Church Steps I hate you man Huh You just heard Mark Say he wanted to play Back in the Day Off Gym That's crazy Mark said he wanted to play Friday and Meek Which I played That's what Mark, but we're not moving wrong.
I like this. You're totally great Sturdy Just the season You're welcome, you told me, you're back in my bag It's like the bottom of some chips Bitch, we never lie, you know we got it on the hip We wasn't scamming, we was gramming We so proud about a brick They was blaming that Miss Ippo Shit, they shot him in his whip Shit, I'm getting money Shit, I got Prada on my kick My jewels like a pool She said she about to to take a dance class Fog lights on the Porsche, cause where I live is always foggy We getting real money, bitch, every day we walk the doggy Just left, say less, couldn't tell you what the tab was You put money on that boy heads, I couldn't tell you what the bag was I really was at the table, shit, I tell you how to bag up You on your Louis or your Birkin, that little nigga get your bag up The Versace, Silke, Shocker, master P Red face with the bezel, the rolly master V If the club close a 4, I might rollin after 3 I used to buy 2 for K'nex, and he was throwin' half a key, nigga Got a game, go out the whistle, Bobby Shit, furred up like a car, Bernie Madoff in the projects For a breakthrough, for an argent Nigga, I'm a beast, you gon' make your moms a target Take it to the, shit'm really out here like that You ain't really out here We really in the mix, nigga We really taking trips, nigga I really got some crashes with me All them niggas know is go and blast the blicky Or pass the blicky just so they can blast the blicky Every time they watch boys in the hood, them niggas laugh at Ricky This shit is all a joke to them, lol They treat their opps like his eyes off smoke to them That HT, mention my name, that'll cause a reaction We really making movies, their boys is just, your boys is just acting We ain't playing games, ain't a toy, we ain't strapping And I gotta watch the phones, the boys, they be tapping Shhh Uh These are black and white or red or blue Back to back The gang is red, but the bread is blue Side to side Hover with the trial with the feds and blues Love you black Still rocking em I sold packs to the crack till I was finished with em G-Pack Niggas think they steppers to the spinners get em I make one call to the steppers they gon' spin and get em Make that boy a plate like we had dinner with em Any cars draft they would get in I'm notna get em And if I did burn a bridge then we gon' swim to get em And if there's catch us in the spot they let us in with em Seaplanes landing on the ocean bed If you eatin' you gotta make sure that your folks is fed Not much has changed since I had that Tesla roaster rad And tell Ted I never talk about the coke and stat Don't get burnt for that butter trying to toast the bread Pourin' liquor on the floor when we toast the dad So we can never let it slide just like a broken slat I've been killin' shit, one of the murders what the poster said Fuck you think I'm supposed to say I've been lookin' for my friends but they mostly dead Swayze So I brought them ghosts instead Black shit Swayze Niggas not That was hard That is Back in My Bag Jim Jones At the Church Steps I'm going to Maryland This is Six Kyle Blue, and I'm on these capers turning racks into acres.
Anita Baker on my playlist, thankful. Named after the angel, Gabriel.
I know you tired of that same old, same old. Stay aware of the angles, angles.
Ain't shit sweet, this ain't mango. Tangle't mango Tango more like Django Old baby might be the coldest to hit the firmament So wavy blow on the water and make the current shift Old Navy Interact hoodies we used to glow up in And niggas still bite like my Doberman I'm over it Topping gas by the Zip I'm finna roll the shit The odor hit like two sticks of old nigga deodorant Oh shit never been my match match but for sure it's lit, the whole kit 86 coupe with the gold, oh shit Yeah, yeah, sugar Don't stop the party Yeah, yeah, sugar Don't stop the party And when the sun goes down Ooh Don't stop the party Don't stop the party, don't stop the party Until the DJ play my favorite song Don't stop the party, don't stop the party Yeah, I'm ready to body shit, I'm ready to body shit No rollie on my wrist, but y'all niggas should know what time it is I ain't committing homicides and all, but that's alright Cause I ain't one of them guys that just be saying something cause it rhyme with shit Been a long time since I had the 9 to 5 this shit I'm still about a billion away from where I've been trying to get I'll still mix up some of the haines with the designer shit I got designer that, designer this, I got designer whips, designer crib It came with a one-on-one designer bitch She paid like 20,000 for those, they're designer tits I don't even take it to the club cause she keep trying to kiss, ooh Shorty don't do that, that's not cool, that's rude And any suck at shit they said I did is not true And any nigga that they said was whack, it's not blue And whoever they said can hang with us is not you Yeah, y'all already know this how we do Come on, come on Yeah, yeah, sugar Don't stop the party Yeah, yeah, sugar Don't stop the party Yeah, and when the sun goes down Ooh Don't stop the party Yeah, don't stop Don't stop the party Uh, cause it's's a celebration bitches Take it from the best in the game Spitting all the hell of hating Never leads to elevating riches Of escalating ranges On switches you niggas It's on the internet Bangin' from long distance I'm sayin' Come on with it Get in the vicinity To visit me Just lyrically You ain't at all bitches You playin' it off Endless I'm sayin' You soft You you hard, but nobody else that you know in your circle Say you are, say you fall like a tree in a forest No one will notice if I slip, no one will trip because I am one of the dopest You ever try to smoke me, gotta smoke me to the roach clip Cause I ain't going out like double dated with no bitch Party, you couldn't be an MC fly, if you was Marty I'd leave you as is And sorry no joke as is And sorry with no joke to go Let's go ropes for dope ropes The folks go At six Kyle, Blue And Buddy Firmament I think Kyle was third Kyle was second I don't know who the last one was Third It was four niggas or three? Well, there's a dude in the hood.
No. The next to the last nigga? Yeah.
Went crazy. That's Kyle, I believe.
Artist is Eviction of Love. The song is Play It Off featuring Bryson Tiller.
Let's hear it. When I pull you to the side Gotta thank I think you might like what I'm saying Patient all night, too grown to be shy Need to be mine, stop caking I said if any got me geeking Looking at me watching this a demon God, jumpin' off the deep end Either I'm in love or yeah, the strength is way too strong You got me feelin' when I holla at you Lookin' for a reason just too tough But you think about leavin' Gotta get you home with me tonight Time to see how it smell more dry 120 up the east side With me, we do what we want to I think you're ready, it seems like you're ready Girl, I've been in love with you all night Girl, got really flexed on you Yeah, they really slept on me Girl, I'm so pressed on you And I can't even play it all Got really flexed on you Niggas, really slept on you Girl, I'm really pressed on you And I can't even play it all Honestly, I think that we could use a little privacy Nobody in a business trying to see who I'm with and where I'm with him Honestly, no, I don't wanna hear it I gotta make a few plans or something So do you got a man or something? And if you do, baby, he don't gotta know But either way, I can't really let you go I think you ready It seems like you ready Girl, I've been in love with you all night, yeah, yeah Girl, I really flexed on you Yeah, they really slept on you Girl, I'm so pressed on you And I can't even pay it, oh Girl, I really flexed on you Niggas, slept on you Thought I'm really pressed on you And I can't even play it all If you want, we can stay All friends can leave If you want, we can hang Just you and me If you want me Shorty gotta pull up on me Cause I want you And I can't play no, I can't play it all Girl, got really flexed on you Yeah, I didn't slept on you Girl, I'm so pressed on you And I can't even I can't play it all Got really flexed on you Niggas we slept on you Gonna be pressed on you And I can't play it off That is Eviction of Love and Bryson Tiller, Play It Off I see what you did there, Ish Went to a man, yeah Try to get to throw niggas off.
We ain't falling back. We ain't falling for that, nigga.
That ain't gonna work. We got you figured out.
We already know. One week ain't gonna throw us off.
No. You'll be back.
Mel, let's go. Alright, mine is called Crocodile Tears by Coltrane and Chase Shakur.
So I will do any longer to be intimidated or wealthy by Tears. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Dead sea sadly And I know All you want is comfort All you want is comfort You say everything is said was on your mind Oh, this is the waste of time You're so selfish, baby Cause I've always been about mine Stained skin beltin, I'll be changing Home hearts don't stop, the pocket of tears I love you! I'm sorry.
Stained skin belts and a lead chains and chrome arms don't stop the crocodile tears Cause you hit me somehow, but you don't even know what I did, no I did in there Ain't tryna sign no fantasy, you with me, luckily But you still fantasizing Oh no, don't need you out here wildin' Shit ain't been the same since I touched rose, touched back in the city life You know your heart cold, your throat froze from the diamonds light You know your tears fall from the one side You say you need some love for the one time
Macorada smells like apple pie
The way you said I'd go around my life
Are you lost?
Steaks getting bells hit up, heat chains
And chrome horns don't stop the crocodile tears Cause you hate me somehow But you don't even know what I did Know I did, yeah New Japan Stained skin belt said I'll be changing My arms don't stop, the crocodile tears
Cause you hit me somehow
But you don't even know what I did
You know I did it
That is Crocodile Tears by Coltrane and Chase Saccor.
There's going to always be some Coltrane.
Mark?
You got to rock, nigga.
Mine is in honor of Angie Stone.
You know, after she left the sequence,
she joined Vertical Hold,
so I got a track from Vertical Hold called
Seems You're Much Too Busy.
Now they stupid couches.
Now they stupid couches.
When your knees fucked up,
they stupid couches.
Got it.
Oh, shit.
What the hell?
They recorded this off the vinyl or something?
Shit got mad.
Some techie shit.
Thank you. What the hell? They recorded this off the vinyl or something? Some techy shit.
Now I just had
mad space at the beginning.
Is it?
Yeah.
There we go. And I can't stand it Seems you're much too busy These days And I can't handle it Seems you're much too busy For me and I can't stand it Seems you're much too busy These days For me That's a great joke You gotta do that on the pie.
She could fit my daughter.
I bet you're gonna fit her in there.
She's got wet with a t-shirt. Oh, no, no, no, no.
He's got a wear with a t-shirt.
Oh, damn.
Man, man, man.
Hey.
He's doing it.
It's medium.
It's independent of what we talk about.
Look at your hoodie, bro.
I say, I can't.
Hoodies and new arms. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh Seems just too busy For me, baby Seems you're just too busy, yeah I think you're just telling me To damn busy Baby, make some time for me I really need your love right now I'm asking you to find my time So much to visit, oh, oh I can't stand it So much to visit these days I can't stand it Stare in the eye Let me in your way to the eye Let's me know Just how you're feeling by me, baby Stand in the eye I'm asking you I'm I hate, may I hate sometimes Soon you're much too busy for me and I can't stand Soon you're much too busy these days and I can't handle Soon you're much too busy for me and I can't stand It's easy, baby Thank you.
And soon I'll be gone Stay with me on Don't make any way to go on Just how you're feeling by me, babe Don't Soon you're much too busy Can't wait and I can't stand it Soon you're much too busy Please stay I can't handle it Soon you're much too busy Don't make any way to stay So Oh, that sounds true.
Hey, I mean, y'all too young, y'all too young.
Oh, no. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
That was a nice midweek pod for they head tops. How's it going? Nice light vibe, huh? Come on now.
What the fuck they talking about? Also, we want to say rest in peace to Dolly Parton's husband. Yes, for sure.
Carl, I want to say his name is. Can we fact check that really quickly? Gotcha.
I don't want to fuck Dolly Parton's husband name, huh? Is his last name Parton? Some of y'all with that old I'm keeping my last name shit. Carl Carl Dean Rest in peace They made 60 years They were married for 60? Yes Amazing Could you imagine being with somebody for 60 years? God damn No I guess that's the goal Right? Yeah See you're doing it again You did it again.
Your wife is cool as hell.
Look what he did.
I got the best wife in the world, man.
There we go.
I just couldn't imagine 60 years.
Why don't we all do that shit?
Make it seem like we miserable at home.
I'm happy at home.
Shout out to you, baby.
I love you.
There you go.
But why we do that, though?
We just do it.
It's nigga shit.
But we don't have to do that, man.
Yes, we do.
That's what makes us feel like we still got something.
Right.
That's all? Oh, man. Yo, we do.
We do. That's what makes us feel like we still got something.
Right. That's all? Oh, man.
Yo, speaking of, I know we said rest in peace to Angie Stone. We brought up Sequence and all that.
We ain't bring up how she took D'Angelo out the game. Ooh.
Snatched D'Angelo. Hey, bitches couldn't understand it back then.
Had that nigga head in the clouds. Oh, my Lord.
Shit, nigga. Yo, it ain't nothing like a breakup To have you getting a V Start jogging You start running You won't be in shape All that Breakup Take weight off you Like Jenny Craig We gotta break that shit down To Patreon man Gotta hurt some things What you heard I just heard that There was plenty of rain Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She could have had that nigga when he was doing all this out there now. All up now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bet you drove him crazy and made that nigga gain all that weight too, right? Remember when D'Angelo got big? I think he lost it.
I think he lost it over the breakup. That's when he lost it.
Yeah. Is that what happened? That's when he got untitled.
Yeah, nigga.
Oh, don't do that.
He don't.
He on some Tiana Taylor shit.
Yeah, no.
You can't do that.
Don't go lose
all the weight
after I leave, nigga.
What the fuck
you talking about?
All right, man.
Shout out to
Tiana Taylor
and fucking
Musafa.
Musafa, yo.
Hey, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows, if you've been listening, you know we need to be there.
Until the next time.
You in the car, let me hear you.
Hey. Hey, hey.
D'Angelo walking to karaoke. You leaving? Yeah.
Yeah, you're about to hear. Until the next time, we bid you adieu.
Farewell. Adios.
Arrivederci. Hasta la vista.
Au revoir. So long.
Goodbye.
Remember, life is a series of moments
and moments past.
So let's make this one last
as if it's all
we have. We have Lastly The baddies are insecure Want to keep they last name Hyphenate yours Pretend that they against Patriarchal fucking designs The stagnant women Want to travel The baddies want to travel too The baddies don't want to just sit at home They want to go out You pick up the tab Go shopping What's that little shit you be wearing? America's people? What's that shit? Martha's line? Free people You asshole You know what I mean? The baddies want some of that free people now, don't believe You know what I mean?
Stagnant women want to travel, the closed-minded women want you to teach them things
Grab your Tylenol, you might need it
Anybody out there fighting a silent battle, we are with you
Anybody out there going through fucking aches and pains like we are, we here for you
Anybody out there that lost somebody, we with you
Ayy Alright, man Anybody out there that lost somebody We with you Aye Alright man Yeah man let it rock for a little bit What's up anybody doing anything interesting this week That I can exploit for entertainment purposes Huh Just work I heard you in hour one say That you was gonna show us soon Something might be happening soon You didn't say nothing else I learned my motherfucking lesson You didn't say nothing else I know I didn't But I read between the lines, girl You said we'll see Hey, things gone good Hey You said we'll shut them down Hey, things gone good out of this bitch Hey Turn it up out there now Y'all see Yeah, y'all gonna see Show them bitches, man Show me a. Y'all see.
Yeah, y'all gonna see. Show them bitches, man.
Don't show me a deal. Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are the bitches. That's what I meant.
That's what I meant. Anybody got any weak plans? Anything for the week? Anything for the week? Prayer star brother Ish, man.
Hopefully he does not need surgery for that walk, boo. Ain't that many Sergio's in the world, nigga.
Go ahead and throw some jeans on, nigga. Stop trying to be cute.
You trying to do that sympathy vote shit with... Aw, girl, nah.
Aw, damn, what happened, Ishmael? Nah, you know, I saw his crutches. Yeah! Is he okay? That's how you know he can't sit down.
They've seen him already on the crutches. Yeah, where would they see me? In the streets, where you walk.
In the streets, nigga. Like dog food.
I wasn't outside. You move around, nigga.
Yeah, what's up, man? It's all right. I wasn't.
It's okay, my brother. Mr.
Crutchman. Probably at the gym.
Mr. Crutchman.
At the hospital. At the hospital.
I didn't even think about that. Oh, yeah, niggas noticed you in the hospital, right? Oh, yeah, the hospital.
That's probably where they saw you. Hospital, man.
Yeah, it's probably right there, right? Kick me, you go to the hospital, nigga? She has the scrubs on, too.
Yeah.
With the jaddy, huh?
Show me a little daddy.
Yeah.
Hey, yo, girl, you can put that boot on my foot.
Don't look at my girl.
See, she ain't here.
You gonna kill him now to this episode.
I did hear you say you was hurt on the pod.
I did hear that.
I did hear you got a little injury.
What can I do, bitch?
Can I bring you some food?
I know you tired of that Portuguese shit.
Here, take some of this. Wow.
Fried chicken. I love this, yo.
God. Fried chicken.
Stupid. No, you got to turn down that head that just fall in your lap when you're not looking for it.
Turn it down. So be strong, bitch.
Stop doing that, you nigga, Joe. Stop doing that, yo.
What? It's true. I don't think our girls recognize that.
But you're not saying it that way. Shit.
Who? Who? Shit. Off shit.
Nigga, you want some off and shit, nigga. You want a 17.
17 bitches offered to suck my dick today. I'm still here.
You want a 720, nigga. You can't get to it.
Where you turn, nigga? She right there. Hey! I'm right there.
Now he's objecting to, I love my baby. She cook good meals.
Yeah, I love the meals. Niggas be popping up.
One more, you gotta see this nigga sad. Sad when the baby leave, boy.
The old ball and chain. Right.
The old ball and chain. I saw you last time on Twitter.
My baby left, they both crying and shit. He can't escape.
Yeah, that's when I tried to go and use the fuck. I tried to go make me the little shake she be making me, but she be using the bullet, the nutriment bullet and shit.
Nutri-bullet, yeah. But she tried to show me how to use it.
Catastrophe. Can't do it, man.
It'd be like that, son. Because it's turned on as soon as you put the thing.
Yeah. Turn it.
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You put it on there and turn it.
Not for left-handed clumsy people. So when you got to turn it off, you got to push it down and turn it.
You just turn it the opposite way. Milkshake all over the floor.
How? How? Because when I turned it, it unscrewed the top. You got to screw the top before you put the thing in there, do-do.
You think I don't know that? When I pushed and turned, it was unscrewing. Screw it tight.
Screw it tight. Screw it tight, Mick Fluffy.
You a bitch if you could work the bullet. No, it's million.
No. No, you don't work the new no-bullet.
You a bitch. You're trying to say your girl.
You already trying to put some negative shit on some regular shit, nigga. You a don't know if you can't.
I can. He be the nigga of your bank.
You don't screw this jar in tights. I don't do it either.
You can't tighten this shit up, nigga? Oh, shit. Nigga said you ask your girl to untighten the mason jar.
I'm saying if he tighten this shit up, it ain't going to open. Shit, boy.
I hear what you're like. Hold on.
She added a dissenslaver. I can't do it.
I can't do it. Daddy and swag.
I can't do it.
Black power shit.
Stop.
Don't do that.
Because we're already in the, what's the newspaper in Jamaica?
The Jamaican star or some shit.
Stop.
Chill now.
Enough for now.
I told you to stop.
That'll be enough for that press.
What happened?
What going on?
What going on?
The music.
They got a whole.
So Joe Budden stepkids is the Jamaican superstar. I'm like, wait, whoa, buddy.
Yeah, you're right. This podcast is big.
We gotta shut the fuck up. We're promoting shit.
All right, man. Again, y'all be good out there.
Yo, Daylight Savings Time is this weekend. Yes, it is.
You lose an hour. Daylight Savings Time is this weekend.
Shit crept back up on us. Y'all hold it down out there, man.
Peace, love, health, wealth, it is. You lose an hour.
Daylight saving times this weekend.
Shit crept back up on us.
Y'all hold it down out there, man.
Peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity, man.
Stay sucker free, and we will be back to you same time, same place this weekend.
Let the beat go.
Ford.
Damn, shit. If you didn't believe in all that patriarchy shit, they wouldn't have paid for the cake.
Not to bring the cake back up. Oh, my God.
You know, you bring the cake up more than anybody else in the fucking room. Because it's one day bread, man.
I know you're not talking. You still owe me fucking Uber money.
But don't dismiss. No, you...
Oh, yeah, from when we dropped off on one. No, we are not clear.
We're not clear. No, we didn't.
No, you dropped off.
I don't owe you the Uber money.
I give you the Uber money by now.
Give me shit from you.
I left it alone.
I can't hear both of you.
I left it alone.
See, why you got to start some shit?
I'll pay you Uber now if you give me my $100.
I was talking about the cake.
It basically...
It cancels itself out.
Exactly.
All right, all right, all right.
Where my mind?
Listen, look.
Where my mind?
Where my mind?
Hey.
I just want one day for Mel to come in and say, yo. I got you, niggas.
I would leave Earth if patriarchy left Earth. What? She's mad down with the patriarchy.
That sounds crazy to say just like that. She's all the way down with the shit.
But it will fuck her sponsorship. That's true.
Yeah, that's true. Lay her.
I'm going to lay her. Wow, that might add more sponsorship.
No. What Mel stands for.
She's just fronting, trying to get the fucking woman menopause pussy sponsors.
What Mel stands for.
Mel's image.
What she stands for.
She can't say.
Versus what she really is.
She can't say who she really is.
She can't say who she really is.
You got to stop thinking that, bro.
She can.
You think she can be herself?
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP.
JVP. JVP.
JVP. JVP.
JVP. JVP.
JVP. JVP.
JVP. Yeah, JVP.
Yeah, JVP. Yeah, JVP.
Yeah, JVP. Yeah, JVP.
Yeah, JVP. Yeah, JVP.
Yeah, JVP. Oh, man, y'all.
Hey, Melissa, follow it up. We're going to take this away.
Did you say it? Oh, my God. Oh, man.
You really cool. JVP.
That's funny, huh? She body that shit. Yo, that nigga got you feeling good.
That nigga got you in a good mood, girl. All right.
All right. You in the same, nigga.
That nigga doing his big one. My nigga, Sergio.
Look at this. He's like Alpo with them niggas, man.
Broke Alpo like when he was looking for his first pack. Alpo.
He's like Alpo when he needed a loan.
Hey, he got the white tee, too, Joe.
Look at this fresh shit, too.
This is fresh white tee.
Oh, my God.
All right, fuck these niggas.