Episode 803 | "One More Dance"

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Yo, that's crazy. Park's got the long sleeve under the short sleeve.
The short sleeve under the long sleeve. The short sleeve.
Yeah, the short sleeve under the long sleeve. Kill it up.
The weather's fucking me up. I don't know which one to pick.
Is it short sleeves weather? That's a Park's blazer. Two black shirts on.
That's crazy. That's some wild shit right there.
How you doing today, man? What's good? What's good, man? The weather's starting to turn. It is.
We're feeling it. Yeah, it's almost 60 degrees.
Well, you came from L.A., where it was hot. Are you feeling the weather? I was not in L.A.
I was in Atlanta, and it was not hot at all. Oh, okay.
It was like 40s. It was freezing.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Okay. Well, 60-degree day.
You had a driver, or you just Ubering it? What were you doing? I had a car. You shooting something out there? Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. I'm feeling it.
In the next street. You're feeling it.
They stick with each other. Stop.
Stokes. I promise y'all.
Don't start. You got a lot of shit.
I promise y'all I'll do my shades. She said that.
Look at Mark. She was driving, Mark.
She wasn't doing shit. She was working.
She wasn't. I believe.
New film? Something like new film something like that something like that something like that I've been interviewing people long enough to never stop asking questions right now why you fucking busy for all your fucking busy hope it goes well hope it went well thank you can't just get it off no no and no I am at peace and I'm here for a good time. Not a long time.
Shout out to me. Y'all are not going to trick me into y'all's traps y'all got laid.
Well, man, we're happy that you're back. Thank you.
I'm glad to be back. We missed you.
Your presence is felt. We did not have a blast.
Yes, y'all did. Yes, y'all did.
Yes, y'all did. the racial draft trade combo.
We were wound up. That's fucking...
Why do you keep talking about... I don't think there were any racial trades.
Why do you keep talking about racial trades? Why do you keep talking about racial trades? Nobody traded you. She keeps saying...
No, I think she was traded. I was fucking...
I was super fucking... I think she was on the block.
I was on the block for Prime Rory. But why she said...
Oh, no, that don't count. It doesn't count? Why she's saying racial, though? I'm being funny.
We ain't trading for nobody else. The racial draft was in Dave Chappelle.
We ain't trading for a girl. Thank you.
Thank you. Hey, listen, small fucking victories.
I'll take them. See? I will take them.
Thank you. I appreciate that, y'all.
We did not have the most fun that we've had in years up here with just the guys.

That's not true.

Nah, never.

How can we?

How can we?

If you heard that, it's inaccurate.

I know that it's not true.

Listen, Martinelli Melly, come on now.

I ain't going to lie.

I started stuttering a lot more.

I got flustered without you being here to just snap me out of it.

So I miss you, man.

It's good to see you.

I miss you guys, too.

Good to have you back. I'm glad you did.
These niggas did not seem more loose and free to me. That's it.
Not at all, nigga. They didn't.
It was the same. These niggas didn't have fresh haircuts and shit.
Yeah, these niggas. Nobody talked behind your back.
No. Like, we was chilling.
Like, we was chilling. We did it? You did it? You did it? Okay.
Don't watch our draft while you're going, either. I couldn't help it.
It was going viral. It was everywhere, Joe.
It was trading mail. It was going viral.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was all over. Just don't start today.
I didn't know that. That shit was all over the place.
Please. Don't you talk.
I don't want no beef. Just don't start today, yo.
I never want no beef. You got too many mans to not know.
Would you appreciate it, Marcus, that no one was willing to trade you, right? You're on the walk, buddy. You motherfucker.
I watched the whole thing. No, I appreciate it was at the end.
Joe's system is very nice. He said, in real life, I would not trade anybody that's in this room.
Of course, coming from the nigga who wasn't up for a trade. At this very moment.
He said, at this very moment on these couches. And I wasn't trying

to be funny.

That's one of them

internet Kendrick

debunk moves.

I wasn't trying

to be funny.

It just came out

like that.

No, no.

I know,

but that's what I said.

I like that button

at the end

where everybody felt

like it's just

a nice exercise.

Yeah,

that's it.

I ain't no way

trading nobody.

I'm the best crew

in the world.

Okay.

Good stuff.

Good stuff indeed.

Corey, you see why you got to believe the bartenders?

I'm playing.

I'm playing.

I'm playing.

Well, the bartenders get the drop on you.

Bartender.

The nigga just left just now, yo.

He walked out.

Yo, tell Ray random.

He at the door.

He at the door.

He waiting for the drama. He's standing the drama.
He waiting for the drama.

He's standing outside.

He's waiting for the drama.

Yeah.

Fucking bartenders, I tell you.

You try to jam me up.

You try to jam me up.

I want to get your shit off.

Go ahead.

I can't say nothing.

I'm not trying to jam me up.

I don't want to play.

I can't say nothing.

I don't want to play with you because you know why?

I'm not a negativity highlighter.

So I don't want to play with you.

I want to say I'm happy that you made it home safe. I'd be down to play too.
That shit wasn't true as hell. Nigga, I was two steps out of there.
Yeah, got out of there kind of fast. I was like, oh shit.
He got the line. Oh my God.

Yo, no.

Leave me alone today.

I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it.

Because I want you to get your shits.

Because you're not going to be there with me.

You're crazy.

You're not going to be there with me.

I will.

No, you're not.

Now, what happens when I'm there is two different things.

I'll be there.

Oh shit.

Yo, duck.

Hey, yo, Finn.

Come on, Finn.

You're going to do that shit you always do.

Get a couple of licks in on me.

Oh shit.

You're going to do that shit you always do. Get a couple of licks in on me.
Oh, shit.

You're going to do that shit you always do.

Push me.

Knock me to the ground.

I ain't playing with you. But if I knock you to the ground, I'm preventing you from getting jumped.

Oh, my Lord.

Thank you.

Because some niggas may not hit me because they know me.

Flip, flip.

Get out of the way.

That's exactly how I got hit any time I ever got hit.

No, you ain't going to hit me.

Boom.

Oh, shit.

Thank God Mermaids was just weak that night.

I was just in and out on the humbug.

I didn't even know.

He was on the way.

You got to move fast to catch me, though.

That was my third, fourth stop for the night.

And I'm 44.

I ain't just going to be outside at 3 in the morning, 4 in the morning. I ain't going home.
Thank God. Oh, shit.
Jesus. It's the line.
Shut up, Joe, bud. That's it.
So that's what I'm going to do today. I'm shutting up.
I might talk to the rest of you niggas. Hold up.
Hold up, for real. There's a few of these niggas out here I want to know if they can fight.
I was in the comments.

I saw that too.

Hey, you can believe this.

You think, what's my man name?

You think he can fight?

No.

Because I don't.

I don't know.

I don't really fuck with him.

Yeah, I'm going to learn him.

I'm going to learn him.

Is he in the community?

No, mind your business.

Oh, okay.

Mind your business.

Sorry.

Why, you want to go hang out with him, have tea and crumpets like you do with people in

the community?

No. Oh, okay.
You want to hire him for your show like you do with people? No. Why not? Yes.
You got to turn me up in the air for some more. A little bit more.
Mic check, mic check, one two. Greatest podcast in the universe.
Turn me up, Chris. So happy to be here., God is good So grateful to have breath in my lungs

He woke me up this morning, man

So many motherfucking hundreds, you gotta make it part two

Forever grateful

Prayers for those inside the room and outside the room

There you go

I'm not in competition with my homies

I'm whipping the competition in the bro

I knew my opposition never knew me

They wouldn't be opposition if they knew me

I made the proposition to my hitters

I told them to knock me down if you owe me I just been sliding around, hitting me, moving Shout to everybody listening all over the world, you heard? The niggas got shot down, we was whoring my homie a op now, so we on her All the dope boys and dope girls out there The scammers and scammers out there Now the five is an entrepreneur, it's always for the ladies, always for the My homie and Savage got put in a casket and I'm mad at him cause so lit that you can't tell if the love real If I can't tell you nothing, I tell you how I thug feel And you ain't rich, nigga, your stash can you pay my drug bill New York City, what's poppin'? Pussy Nigga, this expensive paint, pullin' expensive rain Nigga, I spent some change He got drug money That's expensive game I got expensive shooters You got expensive money You know what's not? Nuh-uh, no, no, no, no, no That's expensive, man I'm goin' hard on my back to the wall I was like, dad, just plumbing and fakin' us I know I'm gettin' old, I like to just take a ride and let the music blast

Nah, I don't even need a destination

I'll go somewhere, make a U-turn, nigga, you gotta move fast

You gotta move fast

Meek, I got experts here, man

We gonna solve that tax problem immediately

Right from the rip. We getting into it.
I was striking up a nigga's fighting wild. And I was rich a nigga on a mission.
I was motivated. I was watching Mooji.
I was broke a nigga in the kitchen. I was chasing millions when they said I couldn't.
I was hard-headed. I ain't listening.
I got a bad day. I don't ever get it.
Now we all know that I'm a check. Yeah.
All of my money is blue. All of my money is blue.
Riddle me this. I'm supposed to go get the money and keep doing favors and get all my money to who you keep telling me niggas keep telling you what

Why they be running to you? Why ain't time to talk about me in this bag? They keep coming to you

I never got that part. I never got that part.
Never understood it.

Nigga know you my man, but every time you want to talk bad about me, he coming to you and you coming to me like a whole ass nigga.

Slap the Strauss The best podcast in the world. Elevation.
It goes. Oh, here we go.
One, two. Big blunts, dope boys, wanna smoke with me.
Now we ride double limbs through the whole city. Niggas talking down, but they hoes filming.
A nine figure nigga all out. It's getting hot out.
Bring the car down, bring the car down. I seen the big mouth get a closed casket.
Self made, took over the whole racket. A kilo after kilo, see who move the most.
Two hundred foot yash, you can't be chasing money with the wrong approach yo this shit was slept on this project was slept on I ain't gonna lie what's this all for? this is the Meek Ross project I came in and told y'all nah this project was definitely slept on bitch boys running social media rich nigga name it Wikipedia if I fuck her once she wanna fuck me twice All the real niggas click up, let's get rich tonight Give me some of my gifts This pandemic infectious Bloody diamonds on this nigga This pandemic infectious

Uh, uh, Mark, whatever episode is this? 803. Welcome to episode 803 of the Joe Budden Podcast brought to you by Fueled by, Powered by, Price Picks, Price Picks gang, yeah! I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored, happy to be your host Joe Budden here with a few really amazing people.
To my right, Big M4, Melissa Ford, legend in the building. To her right, Big Queens flip, Queens get the money.
To his right, ish, huh? Y'all know the vibe, King Wawa in the building, you. Got his 10-year anniversary outfit on just with the jeans now.
All right, to his right, King Elizabeth, the freeziest of them all, Ice is here. Dr.
Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Elmira's finest.
Parks is in the building. Poe is here.
Kors here. Imani is here.
Erickson is here. Tana and Savon are here by Remote.
Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Shout out to the first and last time listeners.
How's everybody doing? How y'all feeling? What's popping though? What's popping? Feeling great. Feeling good, man.
Feeling good. Feeling excellent.
This weather got me feeling like energy, right? You bringing sexy back? No. Let's go.
Let's go. Weather got him feeling good.
He came in his West Coast attire. This nigga freeze.
Freeze you good? You all right, Reese? I'm good. Yeah, get the mic right.
That's right. Gotta fix the mic.
That's right. We in this bitch.
All right, let's get right to it. Because y'all ain't doing nothing special this week.
Or if somebody did something special this week that I can exploit for entertainment purposes, tell me now. Let's get out of the way now.
If not, we can get right to it. I'm following the ice glow-up package I got Invisalign.
Okay. That's the exciting part of my weekend.
You got some Invisalign? Yeah, man. Let's go.
Let's go. All right go.
What was the thinking behind that? Your teeth look good to me. Thank you, but get better.
When you get more money, you want to do more things. Yeah.
That's it. Or you just want to continuously get better for yourself.
As a human. Be your best person.
Richard, you look good, Richard. Thank you.
Richard Gere. You look good.
Thank you. He's going to be in GQ soon.
Yeah. Who parks? Mm-hmm.
How long you got away that shit? I don't know. I think a year.
A year? Yeah. You don't sound as dumb as Ice did when we had that shit.
Ice sand. I ain't go home.
You told me you got the, maybe later. I sounded a complete fucking mess with that Invisalign.
It's going to happen to him later on. It was just towards the end.
When they get tighter? No, I see. No, it's when they put the guards in there so you can't believe.
Okay. When they put the shenanigans in.
I had Invisalign. You did? Really? Yeah.
A long time ago. Come on, you're fucking...
It wasn't even out that long ago. It's like 20 years old.
It's like 20 years old. Oh, you were like the first.
No, I wasn't the first. I was...
Oh, for real? Yeah, that's true. I have been here for 24 years.
That's true. Okay, so.
Now you're saying that, huh? You know, it's paper time. Now you was in America 24.
It's green card time, nigga. Let's be clear.
I've always been clear. I'm Canadian with a green card, which is why I couldn't vote.
And I've been in this country for 24 years. Let's just.
That's how they deported Simon. Oh.
We don't. They got Simon.
Yeah, I saw that. Who's Simon? They got him.
Simon is what's in it? Portia's estranged. Portia's ex.
Yeah. Who? Ex-husband.
Portia. Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Oh. They got Simon.
He had the visa, the green card. They knocked right on his door.
Yep. Come on.
Come on. Let's go.
For not grace by algorithms. No, I think it's a visa was expired or something like that.

They tightening up on that shit.

You have a visa and a green card.

No, I have a green card.

Oh, you don't get...

I don't know.

No, visa first and then green card.

You have a 10-year green card?

Yeah, they last 10 years and then you reapply.

So did you reapply yet?

I'm on my second one.

You reapply quick.

You won't get citizenship soon though, right?

You know, I thought about it. But every time I think about going for citizenship, Trump is in office and then the immigration department goes to shit and your application just gets put under a pile and I just say, fuck it, whatever.
I still pay the same taxes. It's no big deal.
When does your new shit, when does it expire? Why? You going to call fucking ice on me? No, I would never. I would never.
Can you imagine if they come up here and take Mel? Are we allowed to keep the footage and put it out there to the public? Yeah, sure, go ahead. If they came in here and locked Mel up ice, shit.
That's the two for one. you know Imani going to snuff him.
Imani got to snuff the ice dude if you take me out. And he better fall.
He better fall down, too. MTA, first month of congested pricing made over $48 million.
What? Is that extra money? It's not extra. It's the money from congested pricing.

In month one,

48 point something million dollars.

To that,

what does everybody say here?

I get home a lot easier.

That's all I care about.

It worked.

So you do want it to continue?

Yeah.

The program?

Yeah.

You said that shit.

Yeah.

I feel great.

It works out for everybody.

MTA.

It doesn't work out for everybody.

It doesn't work out for everybody.

I'm sorry. I meant everybody in this room.
I don't drive to New York. Don't do that.
I should have been with you. Meet me with you, my nigga.
I've been working here too long. Yeah, I was about to say, my man rubbing off of me.
No, Mark is that. Mark is that.
Oh, no. He's that.
He don't bullshit. No of them.
That nigga told me he matches Rolex with his wedding band.

I said, oh, okay.

I don't like mixing metals.

Wait, what?

I don't like mixing metals. I don't like mixing metals.

I pick my watch by my wedding band.

Yeah.

I didn't say I picked my watch.

Wait, you got multiple wedding bands?

Yes.

Yeah.

Wow.

You know what watch I wear for the day?

I don't want to have a gold watch on with a platinum wedding band.

Well, see, it's only because your Rolex parts have both medals on it. medals on it.
That's how you do it. Right.
It goes with everything. That's your bag right there.
That's a fly shirt. It's fly.
That's a fly shirt. Joe, you're going to do the same shit.
I'm on that, bro. I ain't going to lie.
Am I? You are going to have like seven wedding bands. But you don't have that many watches.
Oh, shit. Wow.
Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Step your watch game up, nigga.

Come on.

Hold me down.

Hold me down.

Hold the fuck out of here, nigga.

Yo, that's fucking fun.

You came with that watch and changed the band, nigga.

We saw that.

I wasn't even trying to say it like that, dog.

Ain't nobody.

I'm talking to jokes.

Yo, you're an idiot. ain't nobody I wasn't saying.
Did I just talk to Mark?

No.

I'm telling you that's not really your bag.

So you got one watch that you primarily wear all the time.

My nigga, that watch costs more than all our watches in here damn near put together.

I'm sure it does.

So I can't say nothing about your watch.

I'm just saying your watch.

Watches.

Watch.

Get that nigga, son.

Wow.

Play my man outfit, nigga.

One watch you got singular.

That was five minutes

from not having it.

One more dance

and you're in the G-Shock right now. One more dance.
Oh, shit. That was stupid.
How many wedding beds? I'm not doing this with y'all all day. How many wedding beds you got? I only have three.
I just have three. What? One is cheap.
It's the cheap. It's like it's the black rubber joint I used to like play sports in.
I also wear it with an Apple Watch. But I do a golden apple.
Why catch it straight? The Apple Watch is the cheap shit though. No, no.
It's just black. It matches my Apple Watch.
Because of the color. It's only because of the color.
I went to Apple and tried on the Apple Watch as I was waiting for like the new iPhone or something and it just didn't look right on me. I love my Apple Watch.
I love my shit. No, I'm not talking about the quality of it, and I'm just talking about...
What's going on up here today? You got a rash? He's like... Get this shit off me.
These poor time pieces. My skin won't take it.
Titanium.

That was not what I was saying.

How do the pores do this?

It didn't look right on my wrist, so I didn't get it.

And we play.

It ain't the cheapest thing in the world, either.

It's up.

No, it's not.

It ain't cheap.

And the mix be having a different band.

I had to get the big band, the extra large band.

It came like $1,100 or something.

Yeah, this one was like $800 almost.

Jesus.

Yeah, I just got the transformer pieces and all that shit.

Thank you. I purchased my own.
What I was going to say is, she technically bought it, but when she swipes that card, the bill still comes to me. God.
So that's why I was trying to figure out a way to say that. Be respectful, nigga.
It's our one in the podcast. She has her own card.
Oh, yeah, sure. She has her own card.
The act of purchasing was done by her physically. Yes.
She swiped. She picked them out? That's they bags.
But we shopped for bands together. I said what I wanted.
Because you said your girl had your card as well, and she swiped for the trips. You were saying the same thing he's saying.
My wife got her own one. Her own actual card? Oh, so if you give your girl your card, you didn't give her own one on your line.
My girl has her own everything, my brother. Okay.
I don't want no problems.

Link to what account?

Only one of her cars is under me.

Nice.

That's the one she bought the trips with, right?

Amex.

One of her Amexes is under me, but... Yo, move along, please.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Move along, please.

Sometimes you got to decide. Kids start catching flashes.
Let's move along. Let's get out of sales.
We good. My girl sent me what she need next month.
She on punishment now. Shit.
I don't even know what a punishment look like, but you got to go down to it. Yo, hold up.
Real quick. Starting to ration.
You played the record. Shit, what's he? People tagged the nigga.
He was following me. Hit me up in 2017 about a video.
I said, what the fuck? Oh, seriously? I swear to God. Wait, you found the dude? The girl tagged him.
His record. They tagged his page.
I looked in it, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I let me let me get out of this so nigga wonder so it's 2017 I was hot with the videos nigga I was making like five each one nigga what videos skits to do to the records like probably the car shit I was doing oh yeah so that's why like what's up how much of a skit and shit like that. Whoever they tagged, yeah.

Oh, we got more?

Hey,

yo, love me.

I don't hate.

I ain't no hate to get your shit off.

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if you're a bitch.

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Let me see, let me see a good bit of this shit. That shit hype! Yo, this nigga's hype! This shit hype! Why you cutting off, nigga? That shit was a mistake! I mean, go away.
That shit was kind of going. Wait, hold on.

Holy shit.

All right. Cut it off, nigga.
That shit was a little, you know what I mean? Go away. That shit was kind of going.
Wait, hold up.

Holy shit.

All right.

Here we go.

Here we go.

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Shit ain't bad. Shit ain't bad.
All right, come on. Let's get right to it, man.
Let's get right to the proceedings this afternoon. Yes, sir.
Where do y'all want to begin? Do y'all want to? I want an ISO one, Ish, and Mark, so we can help Meek with his tax problem. Ah.
Our resident CPAs. Mark? Oh, yeah.
Break it down. Ish, the financial expertprofit I'm just from Philly Meek Mill

said well and you

from Philly

Meek Mill said

in 2013

he made

two million dollars

and

somehow he owes

more than that

2.8

2.8

on that year

I understand

break it down

for the audience

Big Issue

you had 12 years

of penalties and interest

coming from the IRS

that shit is a different level

Thank you. on that year.
I understand. Break it down for the audience, Big Issue.
You had 12 years of penalties and interest coming from the IRS. That shit is a different level.
I remember one year I had to pay them niggas back. I think I owed them like five.
I end up paying them like 21 grand. Some shit like that.
It was something that was ridiculous because I ain't paying them for like four or five years. Yeah, I had a similar situation.
That shit is different. I went through that too.
That penalties and interest be different. I owed them like half a million and it was on like $100,000.
Yeah. 120 tops.
But I took like a long time to pay because I was, I got bad tax advice. They kept saying, wait, don't pay.
We're going to fight this. We're going to fight.
You can't fight. If you owe them six digits, you can't fight the IRS.
They're not, all them commercials about discounts and shit. That's for.
We got all the wrong info. That ain't true.
We go looking for receipts. Right.
Let me get all your sneakers, my nigga. Yeah.
Some bullshit. None of that shit matter, man.
But I can see now how, again, that shit was 12 years ago, dog. Yeah.
He probably owed like 400. He might have owed him 500 grand.
Let's just say a $2 million tax bracket. You might have owed him $700,000 if you made two mil.
And you ain't paying him. Now you add on 12 years, my nigga, of compounded interest, penalties, fees.
It could be 2.8. It shouldn't be $700,000 if you made two mil.
It might be a little more depending on what you write off and shit are. It could vary depending on what you're writing on.
And if it's from back then, he didn't have the good support and advice to do a lot of philanthropic work.

I don't think his business structure was as tight as it is now based on what he said.

So he might owe a lot of money.

Well, what made the tweet funny is that he tweeted it.

Yeah.

Not just that.

Not just that.

Because I got the tweet up.

IRS made me pay 2.8 mil from 2013, and I only made $2 million.

How do I fight that? That's what made it for you. You ask in Twitter how you fight this.
That's my favorite. But that's my favorite thing.
That's my that's exactly. And be so smart motherfuckers on Twitter.
I was going to say he probably had like an influx. That's a big misconception.
It really is. It really don't.
What did you say? I was just going to say he probably probably had an influx of tax attorneys and whatnot and CPAs trying to come to his rescue. Definitely in his inbox.
Here's the only thing, and I love me. That's my brother.
Shout out to Meek. He's very close to Michael Rubin, billionaire.
He's very close to Robert Kraft, billionaire. Close to Jay-Z, billionaire.
I feel like there's resources out there that can give him good tax advice outside. That's what makes it fun.
He knows people more qualified than X to get his information. He knows them.
Yeah. Any question he ever brings to X is.
Always funny. Comedy.
Yo, who know where I could buy a house? Who know where I could get a private jet, yo? That's why I love it. I love it.
Yeah. I mean, it is funny.
I ain't going to laugh, though, because I, too, have been in a tax situation, and that shit ain't no joke. It ain't no joke.
And IRS people are assholes. The more money you owe, they take it personal.
They resent. I remember going into the office, and dude, damn, they cussed me out.
I thought he was going to have to fight. He was cussing me out like it was his money I owed him.
You know what I mean? Because they resent you having it.

And they resent you over it. One dude was bringing them around

with me too.

Yeah.

I'm like,

I know that some more people

owe more money

than this shit y'all on my ass about.

Then you really know

when your accountant is trashed

because they can't even

get IRS on the phone.

Your accountant

going to sit there on hold

for seven hours

before he gets some information.

That's just when I fired my accountant. That's just what he did.
He sat on the phone for hours. He told me, he put it on three-way.
He was like, why don't you hold for a little bit? I got to go to lunch. Oh, that's a great question.
How many accountants have you fired before you got your tax situation right? Oh, my God. Three.
It's probably about three or four with me, too. Yeah.
And you don't know. Well, let me speak for me.
I can't speak for everybody else. I'm no expert in the field in this.
But I didn't know that you can't even start getting your life together until you do it. Until you fix it.
Oh, yeah. Right.
Nigga, you can't do shit. Nothing.
I was invited to the White House one time. And they was like, you can't go if your taxes ain't paid up.
Oh, my God. No way.
Are you serious? Oh, my mama. They was like, yeah.
They said the particular, some things you can get into, like the Negro barbecues and stuff they be having when Joe Biden had in October. I ain't go to that.
But like some of the fancier stuff and like a formal stuff, yeah, you can't go in there with a tax debt. I mean, that makes sense, though.
It did. It does make sense.
I mean, so wait, hold on. So when it comes to like, you know, the big dinners and shit like that, like, they check, I understand background checks,

but they check that far into your background?

I don't know if they check check,

but I know I was specifically told

if you have a tax debt,

it's a dub.

Yeah, it's a dub.

That makes sense.

Man, fuck that.

It's one of the things

I want to argue,

but it makes sense.

It's like when they took my child,

when they took my passport

for Owen Child Support,

as mad as I was,

I understand. Yeah.
That make a little bit of sense. And now they take your passport with the taxes.
Oh, okay. Let's see that.
That makes a little sense, too. I fattened that shit out in 2020.
They told me to surrender it. I didn't.
I paid it since I'm legal. But I just be clear.
But I didn't and I still travel. But technically, they're supposed to take your passport.
And it makes complete sense. Because if you owe enough, it's enough to leave.
And me talking about 2013. Dog, when they hit me, it was for 2006, 8, 9, 11, 12.
That's my joke. It was like seven years that they was like, yo, something was wrong right here.
I was like, dog, that's when I had money.

Y'all catching me dead broke right now.

I was trying to do layaway plans and all types of shit with them dudes.

Yeah, and they'd be like, fuck your layaway plan.

They told me my layaway plan would be $40,000 a month.

I said, if I had $40,000 a fucking month, I owe him half a million.

I was like, if I could pay you.

Yeah, if I could do that, we would have no problems.

Yeah, fuck y'all.

We got to hit that bankruptcy.

That's when you got to hit that. That's when you got to pull the tricks out.
Hit that bankruptcy. That's when you gotta hit that.

That's when you gotta pull the tricks out.

Hit that bankruptcy.

That shit been in your shit for like seven years, though.

All right.

Hey, trade I'm willing to deal with if you don't have the money when them people come.

Them tax debts come back.

Them seven years don't wipe off your federal tax debt, though.

Yeah, I was about to say, I don't know if it's wipe off.

They don't wipe off tax debt?

They don't wipe off them big student loans either?

Student loans, yeah.

Yeah, you'd be fucked up. No, student loans.
That's y'all that fell for the fucking school tricks of America. Damn education.
Idiots. A student loan.
That was y'all. Are you crazy? Yeah, I'll do that seven years.
Meek, good luck. Yeah.
You got this. Dog, 2013, he made $2 million.

And that was his debut.

I was about to say, that's when he was fishing.

That's his first year.

Damn.

Life's been good for him.

No.

When I'm a Boston house party and all that came out.

That was like 11, I thought, right?

Yeah.

It was like 2010, 11.

Yeah, it was like 10.

I'm just saying, he was fish grease then, though.

He made it that year.

$2 million in 2013 for him had to feel like $10 million. Now $2 million.
He just went in his account and paid it. $2 million ain't shit to him now.
Do y'all think, I know we might have covered this before, but the internet was tearing Lil Meach up for allegedly running through $5 million in three years. I understand it.
Did he say he paid Meech the money or he gave the family the money? Like, I gave them. I could understand Meech running through the money if it was him.
That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
But I could see it happening. Yes.
A lot of lifestyle. A lot of entourage, probably.
They were finding pictures of him in the new outfits and saying,

this is where the five million went.

Yeah, I saw that.

And stuff.

You know, I mean, when you're young,

you can spend a lot of money

relatively quickly.

But I realize it.

When you're young or when you're a girl.

Oh, yeah, girls spend money like...

Nigga.

Five million a lot of money, dog.

Really?

And three years ain't a long time.

We talking about after taxes or like the five million and then half of it going I wasn't talking pre or post just running through that puts a lot of people up so five mil is two and a half that five ain't really five yeah that's what I'm saying that's usually what fucks people up two and a half is a lot to go through in three years if you ain't got no financial education you can run through that money facts an expensive lifestyle and you're trying to keep up with rappers and shit that like live that you can can run through that money quick. And then the other piece of it, because this is what fucks people up, they did a study that's on NBA players.
They think they're investing the money, but they invested in really bad things. So like the biggest investment in the 90s, 2000s was car washes.
Every NBA player said, I'm going to invest in a car wash. Yeah.
And so they would, if they got a million, they would spend three of it and then they would say, look, I'm going to put two or three into this car. And then that would go away.
They would lose the money. The investments would fail.
So it's not always that they spend all the money. It's that they do really dumb shit with it.
And for a lot of us in entertainment, there's a difference between having it and earning it. Yes.
Very big difference. You having $2.5 million don't mean that it's about to replenish every month.
Right.

And you don't always know

when it's going to, like I know for me

just, I've had years where I made a lot

of money. Me too.
And I just assumed

the next year would be the same. You always assume your next year's gonna be

more. Yeah.
Or the same.

We never assume we're gonna make less. Mm-hmm.

Till next year come. And that's when you get fucked up.

And yo, you start just

chipping, chipping, chipping, chipping.

Spend $20,000 here, $13,000

here, $7,000 here. And that

Thank you. next year come.
And that's when you get fucked up. And yo, you start just pitch, chipping, chipping, chipping, chipping.
Spend $20,000 here, $13,000 here, $7,000 here, and that shit just start going. You be like, $9 here.
Yo, that shit just start going. Crazy.
Yo, it's different. That congested toe shit and all that shit is expensive too.
When you say $9 here, nigga, I just spent to fucking pay the bill of $500 something for the month of January and February, nigga. That's a lot of money.
If you're a regular person that has to spend an additional $250 a month, that's a lot of money for the average person. That's a big chunk of your income.
That's a lot of money. Exactly.
Some nigga might only make $3,000 and bring home $3,000, $4,000 a month. You gotta spend $ $250,000, $300,000 extra.
That's a lot of money. I agree with you.
It's a lot for me. You're not tricking me.
I totally agree. I totally agree with you.
All right, good luck to me. What else is important? What else is important up here? This Steve Smith thing, I need y'all to explain this to me because maybe this is some shit niggas from a Jersey dude.
Whoa, what? What happened? I just, what? Niggas from Jersey do. So this guy, people know the story, but if you don't know the story, Steve Smith Sr., the football player, was allegedly having an affair with a woman in the football organization, Ravens organization.
The guy's husband finds out. The girl's husband.
The girl's husband, excuse me, finds out and puts it on social media.

Yes. Sure does.

The proof.

Why that's some New Jersey shit?

No, I'm asking.

Because I don't know anybody from my fair city that would ever put on social media that their wife was getting shishkabied by a professional football player.

Like goofy nigga ain't from no New Jersey.

I don't know why.

I'm just asking.

And number two, what's his race?

The one that put it.

The husband was what? Yeah. They react different.
That shit is what? Did you think you was playing him? Yeah, I didn't. You're not playing me if you put that shit on there.
Then he called him. Called him.
You're fucking my wife, buddy. And he's like, sorry? No.
I don't even think he said sorry up there when he was like, I took the sorry like, pardon me?

And anybody that knows Steve Smith, Steve Smith is a hothead.

So I know he really wanted to blast him, but he knew he was being recorded.

Right, because he didn't say nothing else after that.

And Steve Smith has been doing commentating.

You know what I mean?

He got some NFL jobs.

It's like, yo, I ain't going to let you fuck my shit up.

But if I catch you outside.

Steve Smith married.

So he didn't want to talk too crazy on that phone With this nigga being recorded That's why the dude did it I was gonna lean into that Like, that's why the dude did it You fucked up my marriage, I'm gonna fuck up yours back So let me put all the tea out there That's corny It's not gonna work It's goofy fuck your marriage up. Why we don't say it's corny for the married dude to fuck the married girl? We don't say that.
Mel, what'd you think? Let's hear from Mel. Let's hear from Mel on this one, y'all.
I was thinking exactly what you just said. As everybody's just like, that was corny.
I was just like, what about the fact that it's two married people cheating with each other? Well, we think it's corny. We think it's corny.
That happens every day. I know it does, but that doesn't make it right.
There is more acceptance with that one than it is for... Yeah.
He broke the code. And to you guys, that's more of a violation than the sanctity of marriage.
That's kind of wild. It's more interesting to me.
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Thank you. This is part of the worst part.
Yeah. Of vows.
So when you speak about the sanctity of marriage, I'm bringing up all the words that were said during our vows at our wedding. She's 1,000% wrong as well.
Both parties are wrong in this whole situation. I'm just talking about the dialogue between the two guys.
That's all I'm talking about. The sanctity of marriage...
Yo, you crazy. The sanctity of marriage don't mean it's going to stop stop bad things from happening the sanctity of marriage should get us through the bad things happening for better or for worse it doesn't mean tripping and falling in a pussy I'm taking notes I'm writing this shit down that's the worst part save that in a note for later.
What? When you get hemmed up. Save that.
But my response to that is yes it does. It does.
If I slip and fall into some pussy yeah that's included in Is it the same if she slip and some dick fall in her? Yes. Niggas lying but okay.
I mean we're gonna respond different but it's for both parties. I hear you.
For better or for worse, the death do us part. I hear you.
It's supposed to be. And death may come early.
In some situations, no, I can't say that. Some situations, you know that, the death part comes early.
Can't say that. Don't say that.
But what I'm saying is, it's for both. It's supposed to be.
It's supposed to be. What do you guys think is the statistical rate of men leaving their wives after they found out that she cheated? It's not as high.
Listen to this. It's not as high as people think.
What happens is when women get cheated on, they'll broadcast it. When niggas get cheated on, they ain't gonna tell nobody because now you get looked at like a sucker ass simper.
And so they'll eat it, but a lot of people get, men get cheated on and stay. It's a lot.
And on top of that, a lot of times we did the cheating so when she cheats back, we understand. Like, oh.
I done got 49 girls off. All right, this hurts.
Yeah, it hurts. That you fuck money, but all right, we even.

But you are,

but we even.

I'll tell you,

we even.

Hold on, man.

Man, here's the difference.

Yeah, he right.

When we even,

when we cheat,

not me,

but when you cheat

and get caught,

the wife,

you tell her how you feel

and she understands.

When she cheats

and get caught,

we on her ass,

nigga, like this.

Who you talking to, huh? You still doing that shit again? Who you, You still talking to that nigga? What you doing? Yeah, but the niggas that's not leaving, you could do all that. You still know that you're not leaving.
You still know you're not leaving. I ain't even do that.
I think how men look at it versus how women look at it are different. I'm not going to insert my views on this because my views be wild, but if my wife checks every box and she slipped one night, I'm not...
Would you say that you could... She slipped a wing.
We're going to talk about it, but I'm not leaving if you check all of my boxes. Would you say that you could...
Doing that is not checking all my boxes. Hold on.
That's me. Yeah, but I don't think that's fair.
Your family, you come from a church-going family. Yes.
Which means forgiveness is paramount in that. I didn't go to church.
That was my family. You read that verse.
Would you say that if you check all your boxes, you forgave her, would you say that you contributed, would you take accountability for contributing to her No. No.
Not at all? No. You wouldn't say in your mind, like, I might have put her through a couple of things so I understand at this moment why she stepped out? You wouldn't look at yourself at all? No.
Okay, so you should. Wait, understanding and taking accountability for someone else cheating or two different things.
Okay, explain. Accountability means that- I could see the part I played in it.
Right? Like, if I... What's the phrase the fucking stupid therapist said? Like, if you have a problem with how your significant other is showing up, then the first thing you need to do is check how you were showing up.
Because cheating is not... Cheating is the result of things happening prior to...
Yes, got it. That's not true.
I don't agree with that. He said that's what the therapist told him.
I agree with that. I think it depends on the person.
If your girl is feeling empty, if your girl is feeling lonely, if you're not fucking your girl enough, if you're not paying her enough attention, if you're not checking certain boxes for your girl, we all human. I understand how somebody could step out.
What happened about my project? What about the nigga? One more, one more, one more. Oh, shit, everybody.
What I'm saying is, isn't that an argument for taking accountability? If I look at myself and say, look, she cheated because I was gone, she cheated because I didn't give her attention, I didn't do all these things, and she cheated, I mean, that's a way to say, look, it's still her fault. I'm not letting her off the hook, but I'm saying, I got a role in this too.
Yes. All right, so I agree with that.
And that's specific. So then that is accountability, and yes, my answer to that is yes.
What about the niggas that's cheating

because everything is okay at home

and I'm just greedy

and I want some side pussy

because shorty looks...

We're talking about the wife though.

I'm talking about women.

Women do that.

I don't think they do.

Why do y'all think women don't cheat

because they greedy like us?

No, they do.

Women don't cheat

because something's lacking.

That's one of the biggest misconceptions

in fucking modern thought.

People are human beings. My nigga, it's girls that I know that say, yo, he too available.
He corny. He not challenging me enough.
Wait, are they married? Are they married or just in relationships? Yes. When you commit to somebody, whether you're in a church or whether y'all sitting on your couch, y'all committing to each other should be enough.
Niggas use that shit that's married or not married as an excuse. But what's the ratio? What's the ratio? When you spend several hundred thousand dollars on your wedding, it's different than just being boyfriend.
Every wedding don't cost us $700. Whatever the fucking, however much you spent on your wedding.
You could have went to the justice or the peace and got married. If I sit on the couch with my girlfriend and say, yo, this is what we are deciding to do.
I'm giving you my word that this is what we're doing. And she does the same thing.
Or whether we go in a church and say, your honor, this is what we're doing. I think your word should be your word whether you're in a church or whether you're sitting in a couch.
If you're just fucking people to fuck people, then you're immature and those are not the people I'm speaking to. We were talking about relationships.
There are people that are in relationships that are cheating every single day. All of those people that are cheating in those relationships are not cheating because something is lacking at home.
That is a justification that niggas use to cheat. Even when the man is, hold on, Joe.
Even when the man is a pushover-ish, the wife or the woman is telling him or giving him signs or saying that you're a pushover, you need to change. Let's say a man is a pushover.
He's a pushover. She gets away with everything.
She's telling him, yo, I need you to change. I need you to be more assertive.
Hold on. I need you to be the man of the house.
And if he ignores that, then she's liable to step out. There's still a reason.
You married him. You married him knowing he was a pushover.
So now you are using that thing as an excuse to go do something that you wanted to do.

You are looking for a justification in which to do something.

If you know your wife can't cook, if you married your wife and she's fat, you can't now say, yo, she's fat physically.

So now I want to go out and find something.

You married her.

What if she gets fat?

What if she puts on a hundred pounds later?

To Joe's point, for better or for worse, it's something that you said you was going to do.

So now when it goes for the worst, you can't now use that as a justification to go do some bullshit.

I think that this kind of gets into the weeds of, you know, people getting married for the wrong reasons or not not really understanding who it is that they get married to.

I feel like the conversation is revolving.

Sometimes. Yeah.
Sometimes people just people. It don't't gotta be this deep niggas be greedy.
You can have a girl at home that's beautiful, could cook, pussy's amazing, sex is amazing, she's attentive, she's supportive, she's all of those things. She checks all your boxes.
She checks every box and a nigga will go fuck something. Yo dawg, what are we talking about? I hate when y'all do this.
I hate when y'all do this. Those are not the people that we're having a conversation about.
That's what I was talking about. No, we are having those conversations, because y'all said this.
Y'all said, yo, people are going to do this because of this. And me and Ice are saying there's a whole different demo of people that are going to do it.
We're not talking about that demo. We're not talking about that demo.
You can't just say people. No, because Joe said, yo, if you lacking at home and I'm not being supportive and I'm not this and I'm not that, then I'm leading to you cheating.
Cool. Yeah, we're not just talking about habitual cheaters who have a problem with discipline and can't keep their dick in their pants.
Me neither. Then you losing me then.
Joe, there are people that might cheat occasionally. Nobody's saying you just some harlot chick that's just out fucking every time Dick and Harry or nobody's saying you just some undisciplined nigga that's just outside wilding.
There are niggas that might have... If you're cheating occasionally and you're married and you took an oath, then you are undisciplined.
True, but you said just a whore that's out here fucking everything. No, there's a gray.
It's not black or white. It's not whore or virgin.

There's a lot of middle areas that people

cover.

We're doing

a lot of unpacking and Shorty said

that he rearranged her IUD.

So I'd rather be funny.

That's what she said.

That's what she said.

I wasn't trying to hear the rules and regulations.

He was pissing out his ass for sure. Niggas cheat.
One day, hopefully, if you grow up, that stops. That's not to say that you'll never be put in a tempting situation, but that's on everybody to know how to deal with tempting situations.
If that come my way, I could fall victim just like she could fall victim. So I want to have that understanding, right?

And not just be the fucking police and the punishment and repercussions.

I just want to have understanding.

It's hard.

And I don't cheat.

And my wife doesn't cheat as far as I know.

I don't think she. I'm sure she doesn't at this point.

So, you know, it's hard for me to imagine a situation where that would happen just off like pure carnal instinct as opposed to like something really fucked up happened over a protracted period of time and I hope we can talk through that before we get there but if it does I would have to forgive too I mean that's the point of marriage cheating ain't even a word I'm in the crib arguing about now is being inappropriate that's the new entertaining it's okay it's okay listen I'm speaking me. I ain't speaking for nobody else yet.
Being inappropriate in what way? That's the thing. There's a lot of gray areas.
What's inappropriate? Everybody got different. Like, I got a homie who feels like, I got a homie whose wife, I should say, feels like any DM with a woman is inappropriate.
You shouldn't be in any woman's DM. Just as an example, whereas in our line of work, DM is a healthy and normal form of communication.
There's mad women out there that feel like a very normal conversation between you and another woman is you being inappropriate. No, how about people are just nice? Right.
Like, what do you do when just somebody nice hits you and you respond being nice? That's not inappropriate. She's not being nice.
And a lot. Women, women, women look at it.
That's not women. Women, women, women look at it.
No, she knows what she doing. Yeah.
And you falling forward. That's not women, bro.
That's how they treat that. That's throwing the fishing line out and just getting a big fish.
You know, I did the... Shout out to Louis J

and Beards and Bottles.

I did the thing

for their live podcast

over the weekend.

I seen you on the flyer, yeah.

So listen,

it was mad people

that I hadn't seen

in a long time.

Me and one of my homegirls

had a conversation.

She said, yo,

I seen you in some spots.

I couldn't say hi

because the nigga

that I was with

wouldn't allow me to speak.

So it don't just be women that be on no jealousy shit. These niggas be insecure and jealous as fuck.
Niggas are worse. Yo, she said, yo, I couldn't speak.
I would've gotten in trouble if I spoke to you. I'm like, yo, that's cool.
How was your event? But yeah, like, dog, it don't just be women that be doing that. It be a lot of niggas that be on that jealousy and insecurity shit Oh, niggas be on that.
We can tell you all the time. Yes, bro.
All of that shit. I done had people say that they girl made, girls tell me that they do made them unfollow.
They do made them unfollow. Yeah.
Wait, you don't understand that? No. And unfollow? Yeah, no.
No. I get unfollowed, blocked, all that shit.
You would never do that. I've had a guy.
I would never do what? Make your girl not say hi to somebody that she knows because y'all in a relationship. I don't know that I'm beyond that.
I don't know that that's above me. I don't think so.
Like, it's probably situational. It might be circumstantial.
I don't know. It might be circumstantial, but the same nigga that you're saying you are, you just played your ex-girlfriend's man twice and gave that nigga worldwide.
Not ex-girlfriend's man. That's her ex.
Yeah, but baby daddy's a little more. I mean, but I'm just saying, whatever the case, even worse, even better.
Most men are not doing that, bro. Right.
Most men are not secure enough to do no shit like that and lend no shine to no other man that's my girl's baby daddy. Like, I don't see you telling your girl, yo, you can't say hi to that nigga.
That's a little bit different. Dog, if you met somebody that's gonna rearrange your IUD every now and again.
I don't want you speaking up. That might be my line.
That's what I'm saying. Like, you went in her phone being nosy, snooping around.
You saw an anaconda

in there. A real nigga.

Yeah, you seen some shit in there.

She was talking to him like that shit was an anaconda.

I can see you asking

her not to go to the punchline

at the prom.

Yeah, we need the IUD.

The crazy shit is when Shorty told you, I I want to come see you but I gotta go home like why is that crazy for you he just nigga yo he just his wife gonna see this I'm gonna call you tomorrow he just pulled up you wanna be he yo you don't wanna be he you don't wanna be he I want to come see you but he home he here now this nigga So You're saying You don't want to be he I don't want to be The other dude either Like I want access To the person I enjoy fucking Alright so you being mature I'm on joke time Nigga I'd rather be that nigga Fuck out of here The lowercase he Fuck that Lowercase he You don't even get A capital H I don't want us to beat this to death because I do have another kind of relationship-y topic to throw to y'all.

Okay.

And this is with Sade, Neo's latest baby mother.

Oh.

Oh.

My head was spinning for a second.

Yeah, yeah.

I thought you were getting some nigga joke.

So, I'm going to give it to you as soon as my phone loads.

All right.

My phone is loaded.

This is Neo on doing an interview, I guess, explaining how he told his kids about his poly lifestyle.

Okay.

Oh.

About your relationship?

Of course they do.

And I answer them.

Kids have questions about that? About your relationship? Of course they do. And I answer them.
Kids have questions about that? About your relationship? Of course they do, and I answer them. Honesty.
Again, I'm not lying to nobody, not even my children. Hey, this is daddy's girlfriend, and so is that, and so is that, and so is that.
You got no problem with this, sir. She going to make you some cereal, and she going to cook lunch, and she going to wash your clothes.
And it's all good. It's family, it's community.
You's what it's about. Alright, we've heard enough from Neo at the interview.
They told a nigga he need his own book in the Bible. Sade, friend of the show, friend of Joe, whatever you want to call it, says, this is disgusting parenting.
I'm sorry to everyone that this narrative is being forced down y'all's throats. And didn't I tell your corny ass not to have that shit going on in front of my kids? To do that cornball shit on your own time.
That shit is sick as fuck. You are hella fucking weird for that you added him.
But i'm glad you think i'm playing with you after i

done already warned you i'm not playing about my kids and poly relationships aren't five plus quote-unquote girlfriends that party with you every night so you can pick up more girls to hook up with that is what you call an open relationship you are a wanna boyfriend i guess wanna be boyfriend i don't know oh wanna be

boyfriend slash pimp slash trick get a life oh no you like gfe i don't know what gfe is girlfriend experience stop disrespecting poly there's nothing exclusive about what you got going on weirdo And I'll just be patiently waiting like this for a motherfucker to sneeze wrong before I dust out my receipt book of everything under the sun. Foot on neck now.
Belt to ass. Oh, shit.
Just had to make that clear. That shit is weird and we don't condone clown parenting.
Moving on. How are y doing don't mind me last slide you need your fucking ass beat belt to ass that's the problem i did want to hear where y'all stood on that i'm i'm with her which part which part on their argument on him on him making his kids aware of his poly lifestyle and his multiple girlfriends or the M? I was about to say the age matters.
I would have to Google it. But I do think they're young.
Well, Sade just had a kid last year or two years ago. I'm going to say this.
That's not something I would do. Me.
Because I don't live a poly lifestyle. So I think that would be inappropriate to give to your kids.
But for the people that are in that particular type of lifestyle, if that's their truth, that's their truth is like people that do porn. Right? We look at that like, oh, that's taboo.
A lot of people introduce porn to their kids really, really early on and let them know that this is what mommy and daddy do for work. You got some wild views.
I ain't heard that. I didn't hear that before.
He's got some wild POVs. This is not my view.
So what I'm telling you is I could be objective. I could say, yo, I feel like this, but I'm not condemning them for feeling like that.
But you draw lines, right? If you introduce your kids that I'm'm a porn star, you don't bring your door to work day. They hide it from them.
They don't hide it. That's wrong.
I got their ages, by the way. They don't hide it.
Actually, a lot of the porn stars, their kids go into porn. Wait, what? I don't know what you're doing.
Give me the ages. 14, 13, 8, 6, 3, and then I guess these are twins.
They don't even have the age. Which ones are Sade's? Isabella and Braden are two years old, and then Brixton is nine months old.
Okay. That was as of a year ago, so your age is more accurate, but that's the general age.
They're little kids up to young teens. I think all of them are probably too young to be introducing.
Not the teenagers, but the smaller kids is confusing to the smaller kids. That's too young.
Actually, I did have a. When I had a teenage daughter, if I were in that situation, I was dating at the time.
I would say, hey, I date different people. There's nobody you need to meet right now.
Correct. To me, that's different than.
Wildly different. Than like, yeah, I'm in a polyamorous relationship.
It's actually the opposite. Right.
It's the opposite. And to me, that's the opposite.
And to me that's different than wildly different than like yeah I'm in a polyamorous relationship it's actually the opposite and to me that's the opposite and to me that's the proper way to handle it and I understand everybody's different if you're in a polyamorous relationship like a real one where look I have two partners I think that's okay to say these are my two partners but as Sade said that doesn't sound like what he's doing it was going to go exactly that way he's just openly fucking a lot of people and to say she's going to pour you cereal that shit is weird That's not what he's doing. It was going to go exactly that way.
Her analysis is right. He's just openly fucking a lot of people.
And to say, she's going to pour you cereal. She's going to give you the...
That shit is weird. That's not what he said.
And I had this... I had Neo on my topic list before this interview and before she replied because he looks nuts.
Damn. Yeah, agree.
Like, I know as a nigga, you ain't supposed to be able to say, and I love him, friend of the show, been up here. Neo looks nuts, yo.
Yeah. He looks nuts because he's sharing his lifestyle with everyone.
He looks nuts because, what, he has numerous partners. I thought all of them were the same.
It's more than showing. It's like highlighting.
I constantly see clips that are not just like someone filming. It looks like PR.
Yes. I have multiple girlfriends.
He's making a spectacle. Hold on.
He's making a spectacle of it. He's promoting that lifestyle, basically.
He's adding people to the mix. Cool.
But most importantly, nobody on the internet, after a breakup of people you've been with for X amount of years, nobody ever just goes and sits the fuck down. Right.
Because your way of... We just watched you be in shit for the last however many years.
Go sit down for a minute. Because with the internet, you have to win the breakup.
So you got to show like... This is not winning the breakup.
This is how these niggas move though. After we go through whatever, I got to show that I'm unbothered.
I'm living life. I'm winning.
I got all of this happening now. And I have to keep showing y'all that.
I think that if he just out here fucking, I don't think you should be introducing your kids. I don't think you should be introducing the people to your kids.
Yeah those are his quote-unquote girlfriends, which he kind of said, like, yo, I got multiple girlfriends. This will make you breakfast.
This will make you lunch. If those are his girlfriends and that's the lifestyle that he's living.
Then he still shouldn't be introducing them to his kids. I think that's drastically different than him just fucking random people.
No, even if, let's go with the latter, right? Let's pretend they are his girlfriends. That's what they're saying.
How long? I'll roll with it. Exactly.
If you had one girlfriend that you just got with in the first four or five months, they shouldn't be meeting your fucking kids. I agree.
So now you got four of them, y'all been together for six months. Exactly.
When me and my girl got together, we both knew we had children. We made a decision initially, hey, look, if we make it to a year, then we'll introduce the kids.
Because at that point, we know we're invested. We know we got something real here.
But if we don't hit the year mark, I ain't meeting your kids, you're not meeting mine. I agree with that.
And y'all talking about it should be kept from the young kids, but maybe not the teenagers. I'm on even more high alert with the teenagers.
Absolutely. Definitely agree.
Especially today. 13, 14.
Today? So think about this. And again, I'm just giving an opposite perspective for the sake of discussion.
Neo is Neo. So in today's society, they keep a camera in everybody's face.
See, I don't roll with that. You don't have to.
I don't roll with that. He's powerful enough to have privacy.
There's plenty of people that's all the way up and are private. That's true.
Or have certain matters in their life that are private. I'm not mad at Neo doing what he's doing.
Let me not, I don't want to come off wrong. I'm not mad at whatever lifestyle he want to live.
That's on him. And he's Neo, like, I actually applaud him for saying to himself, yo, because he been on.

I don't have a discipline to fuck with one shit.

Neo been on.

I mean, don't make me say it.

He was.

So if now he's saying, yo, one relationship, one woman is not for me.

That's not how I'm on it.

This is how I want to live my life.

Then I applaud that freedom.

Yes.

I think that that comes with a line in how you parent. I agree.
I agree. I agree with that.
Because what happens when your daughter comes home from high school and says, Daddy, I got a boyfriend. I'm in a polyamorous relationship.
I got a boyfriend. And so does my girlfriend.
And so does my other girlfriend. We all got the same guy.
Just like you. You don't do what you see me do.
Right. Yeah.
That's not going to go far. I don't think that works.

That is not going to go far.

It doesn't work.

It doesn't work.

It doesn't work.

It never worked.

Y'all don't understand that kids are coming home saying that now.

Because it's been glorified in a situation like this where people don't seem to understand

what polyamorous relationships actually mean.

Let's say his daughter or somebody's daughter, take it off of Neo and they family.

Let's say somebody's daughter comes home at 17 and says, yo, I'm Polly. I'm probably gonna whoop some ass.
Because now we can't stand on a, yo, we pro this, but we not pro that when it comes to sexuality. Yeah, we can.
Yes, I can. You can do that.
Yes, I can. Damn sure can.
And if I'm that person's parent, if I'm that person's parent, I'm gonna want them to define what Polly is and why they want to be in it. I'm going to talk them through it.
You know what I'm saying? Just so I'm not making them feel like I'm judging them. You're not poly under this roof.
Where are we living at? I think it's perfect. I don't even have kids, but I wasn't a kid so long ago to know that your parents can be hypocritical with you.
They can. I say not you say not as I do.
Part of parenting. But some of it is a hypocrisy, though.
But don't we condemn that when it comes to other sexual life choices? No. With parenting? Yes.
Give me a example. With teenagers? If your son came home and wanted to be trans now at 15, 16 years old, I've heard everybody up here come up here and defend that.
Not everybody. Not everybody.
Not everyone. You're right.
Pardon me. I'm just saying.
So now we're drawing a line. We're drawing a line now about when your kids can come home and be open to you about their sexual choices or their sexual preferences.
You can be open. I don't think that's hypocritical at all.
Some shit we gonna go with and some shit we not. Yeah, I don't think it's hypocritical.
I think it's hypocritical if I say this is right for me. It's the right thing to do.
I'm not doing anything wrong. When you do it, it's wrong.
That's hypocritical. What I'm saying is something a little different.
I'm saying that at that age, well, two things. One, I don't think what Neo is doing is actually polyamorous.
And so I think he's muddying up the water so that when the kids follow that lead. We offer Neo.
Or whoever. What I'm saying is when we start using these terms loosely, it gets messy.
True also think at that age you have to as mel said talk through it with them if my 17 year old daughter had come home and said look i'm polyamorous and that i don't know i actually don't think i would trip about that my worry is how is that i'm not confident that at 17 you're able to clearly know what you want and what you want to do but you've been an advocate and a proponent of um when do you think is it appropriate age for them to make that determination some of that is kid to kid some kids are more advanced and mature because i have daughter i have two daughters who are very different personality wise and maturity wise so i i don't think it's like when you turn 18, something magically happens. I think it depends on the kid.
But I worry that if we start, that if we just say, go do that because we're so progressive, which I am progressive, that, but we don't have any oversight to it, that it can become dangerous. And I think people like Neo make it harder because there are people who live very responsible, careful, healthy, polyamorous lives.
And I think what he's doing is so messy and different than that, that it makes it harder for everybody else to talk about it. Because now they think just fucking everybody's polyamorous.
They don't even know what it really is. Yeah, exactly.
That's why I said get off that. If you're not an adult, and I'm a parent, I have a hard time believing that you are now capable of managing poly relationships at 17 years old.

I think you've got a hard time managing being with one person or just learning how to be with one person.

It's hard for adults, I would imagine, to manage a poly relationship.

Learning a checkbook, getting a job, learning people, learning the world, learning life.

You ain't coming to my house at 17 and talking about, nigga, who?

So real quick, and I'm not trying to be the black sheep, but are we moving on from that other subject because it's sensitive? Meaning what he's saying that would you allow your child at 17, 14, 15 to come to you and say, I want a sex change? Is that a sensitive topic that we want to move from because he said it? No, if you want to talk about it, we can saying i just i don't think that's the same so i left it i didn't leave it okay in fear of speaking about it okay if you come to me and tell if my kid comes to me and tells me yo i want to be a transgender you're having a conversation with me about how you feel inside okay as a person okay um yeah that had to me has nothing to do with other people or outside people. That's my kid telling me how they feel.
We're also talking about a teenager potentially wanting to modify their body as opposed to just dating someone. It's a big difference.
It's a big difference. Which one is way more important? I don't know if the word is important, but...
I forget what I mean. It's more high state.
Maybe I used the wrong word. We understand what I'm saying.
Consequential, yes. But I would say you know, yeah, exactly.
Revealing that you're trans and wanting this sexism. We get into orders that we don't know what we're talking about.
Because every trans person that's underage is not looking to get that operation done. Most aren't.
So, if we don't know what we're talking about, let's leave. Most aren't.
And that's what Joe just said is really important because that's the misconception. If we're just talking about how you feel inside, I'm willing to engage that conversation, have that conversation.
I agree. If my son comes to me in five years or two years or two months and says, I feel like a girl, I'm fine with that.
And we'll work with that and we'll go through that. But that doesn't mean that I would allow a sex change.
I think the misnomer about trans folk is that people are trying to give all these trans kids sex changes. Most of them don't get it until after 18, and the hormone blocker, but a lot of them don't get it at all.
No, but just let me finish the thought. Let me just finish the thought because this is really important.
The hormone blocker is a thing that people often get, but hormone blockers can be undone. So if you get a hormone blocker because I don't want to transition into certain things that happen naturally through puberty, and then suddenly I change my mind at 14, and I feel differently and I'm actually not trans I'm just queer or I'm not trans I'm just this or that you just stop taking the hormone blocker.
That's what I would do to address that point because again just like that it's a high stakes choice to make it 13 but how you feel inside is how you feel inside. I'm not fighting that.
Got it. Such a supportive parent.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I don't know.

I would do something, though.

Bro, you got to be open to talk about all of that shit.

Mm-hmm.

That was my whole point.

Like, you can't condemn one and talk about the other.

But go ahead.

No, nigga.

I'm transgender, nigga.

You can't.

Maybe we buying less snacks now, so.

No.

No, nigga. Yeah, you're an idiot, huh.
We got to do something. We got to change now.
No. No.
That's your man. That's your man right there.
Change clothes. Yeah.
Freeze. Salute.
Gotta have those conversations. He's right.
Gotta have them. And'all had a talk Like yeah How you feeling inside And y'all said that To y'all getting up No No Niggas don't talk To their fucking kids Nah Yo Only on podcasts I would talk to them Yeah Niggas But I don't Yo who talks to their kids Yo If Flipkid wasn't his cameraman He wouldn't talk to them.
I know when I talk to my oldest, when he need a couple dollars. I should call, how you feel inside? See, y'all got young kids, so y'all excluded from this.
You got a young kid too? And I got a 24. Actually, one who'll be 21 on Thursday.
birthday. Happy early birthday.
I was going to actually ask y'all. We'll talk later.
I need some gift advice. Okay.
Money. It's just money now.
At 21? At 21? It's just money. Look, and you're rich.
Money. What is the proper amount? I was going to give her like a fancy, something thoughtful, like a bag.
But you said just give her cash. What is a reasonable amount of money that won't make me look cheap but also isn't ridiculous? Wait, question.
Does she have a job? Five. No, she's full-time.
She's a junior in college. She's studying abroad in Spain right now.
Why are you laughing at me? Fancy. Why are you laughing at me? $5,000.
Five. 5K.
Five to 10K. See, I was going to give her $2,100 because she's 21.
But is that cheap?

No. No.

No.

It's not cheap.

Oh, y'all just talking five.

I saw five.

No, no.

That wasn't y'all.

Not y'all.

Y'all ain't say five.

What would you do?

I would have said that.

21.

At 21, your kid been waiting to be 21 their whole life.

You give them a little something so they can act and feel 21 and leave you alone for a

little bit and see what they do with it.

And if $2,100 don't do that? $2,100 does not do that at 21 today in this economy. It doesn't.
Sorry. You are out of your mind.
I'm telling you it don't. You are out of your fucking mind.
I have a kid that's over 21. I'm telling you.
And you rich. Stop.
I don't have watches. I'm not trying to be funny.
I don't have watches. I know, but that one.
I don't have watches. That one.
Why do you keep saying I ain't going to do that because they're going to think I'm focusing on me.

No, no, no.

You have to stop saying that about me until I get more watches.

Man, shut the fuck up, Joe.

It's true.

Shut your dumb ass up.

It is true.

Why don't bust that one down and buy three?

Nigga, super up, nigga.

Even.

We got you on camera telling me I'm super up, nigga.

I'm up already, nigga.

That's a fact.

All right, so you up.

You up.

So you can give trade more than that.

I told you all about the misconception that that spreads when we say that from this room. Because that gives the impression that you where you want to be to the people that are above you.
And I ain't. So I'm not viewing it like yo, you up, you up, you up.
No, I ain't nowhere near where I need to be. I'm nowhere near where I need to be.
Yo, you a magician. I ain't at the spot where I can just go to Short Hills.
Let me talk. I ain't at the spot where I can just go to Short Hills and get every watch I want.
That's not where I am. No, we not talking about expensive watches.
My money has to go to, like, important shit. Yo, Ish, you do these magicians.
Yo, yes, you do it. Yo, you a magician.
What the fuck you think you're talking to? You. You are a magician when it comes to conversation.
You try to conflate things. And deflect.
No will come out. You talking about the niggas that you're trying to reach to.
You don't want them to look at you like you're up. But the niggas that you are above and the niggas that you are up compared to, you're up.
You're up. You're in a great position more than average.
You dress for where you're trying to be. Nigga, we don't care about the niggas you're trying to get to.
That's you. That's your own goal.
You have to behave. This nigga's crazy.
See, y'all calling me crazy spreads the wrong message to the audience. You should move, act, behave, and present and appear from where you want to go.
Got it. Not from where you act.
You should look like where you're trying to go, not from where you come from. I believe that.
And I agree, I do too. So when y'all say that in here, it gives a certain impression.
The two things don't have nothing to do. You know what I'm talking about? The two things don't have nothing to do.
I don't care how many Hallmark cards you write right now. What the fuck you talking about? I asked y'all last part.
What do you think you have to do to double your income today? What did I got to do with you right now? Go to Shore Hills Mall and buy any watch you want. Nothing.
You can go to Shore Hills Mall and buy any watch you want. You talking to me? Four of them.
Exactly. I could.
It would be irresponsible. I didn't say that.
You said you can't. You said you can't.
You said you can't. Stop moving.
Yo, dog. You about to stop being a dog tracker.
He said he couldn't responsibly do it. These biggers conflatelate my points.
He said he didn't mean that. I know what he meant, though.
I know what he meant. You deflate your points.
I don't know what nobody means, Mark. I know what they say.
An adult knows what I meant. Mark knows exactly what I meant.
The fuck are y'all talking about? Yo, you a smoking mirror, man. No, he ain't.
To me? He ain't even good at it. That nigga picked the whole goalpost up.
No, I just speak with context and nuance, and everybody don't get that. Nobody.
What did you respond? Everybody don't get that. You got some backlash from being up, huh? I totally understand.
Mark, by the way, I think that you should get her the nice bag that you were thinking of and put the $2,100 in it. Five stacks, nigga.
We bet that on a Sixers game. Who's we? Me and Mark.
I actually owe you five stacks. Yeah, see? I'm glad you stopped painting the narrative of me.
Yo, you such a fucking hypocrite, yo. No, I'm not.
Because you do that to me every week. You come up here and paint this narrative of me like I'm rich every fucking week.
And then you don't like what nobody's doing to you. If we paint the narrative of you rich, shut up.
You have consequences, nigga. You have consequences.
That's why we can't do it. We can't tell you the truth.

What are you looking for me to say?

I want you to say, yes, you're right.

I apologize.

I take accountability for doing that.

For calling you rich?

Yes.

I don't apologize for that.

I'm not rich.

I think you're rich.

You got it.

Are you a lot of issues?

What's that watch you had on ice?

Sky Dweller.

The Sky Dweller.

That's the one.

Yeah, that's a nice watch.

You're not rich, but you up. You all the way up.
You up. I don't know about that.
You up. You the up.
The P almost come together. You the up.
He think he the only nigga in New Jersey that knows math or has a calculator, and he's not. True.
What? Yeah, but Corey Frank. You don't got no numbers to put in your calculator.
Yo, let's move on. Yeah.
I do. No, you don't.
You have one number to put in your calculator. I have more than one number.
And when I go home, I put more than one number in there. They made up, though.
I know what you're doing. I see how you're moving.
It's nice. It's attractive.
It's inspiring. This nigga's crazy.
What's wrong with me for saying that?

How you moving is inspiring

to people. Okay.

What you bringing in, I think you could run

a class and a course

and teach people, especially with the state of the

market, on what's going on out there.

You could be fucking Ian Funlap.

You could be

doing something.

Ian Funlap.

Funlap is wild. I'd be Wall Street rapper.
Yeah. Yeah.
This nigga's a dick. Dickie Fontaine.
This nigga just make up shit. He's stupid.
Because y'all go to the airwaves and do all this shit and then I go behind the scenes and try to convince people how underbated I am. That's the problem.
And then by you doing that and putting highlight and saying my man is up.

Yo, you gotta stop.

Hold on.

Hold on, bitch.

No, you gotta stop.

I'm not in this.

Why you doing what he do?

By saying my man is up,

you put other lights on him

that don't need to be on him, nigga.

Shine a light on him, nigga.

You put the bright lights.

Yo, this nigga just said,

yo, I gotta go and sit in other rooms

and explain to them

why I'm underpaid

while he shines this fabricated,

busted-ass

neon light on my money,

acting like I got more than what I got.

What the fuck you think I gotta do when I go sit in other

rooms?

The rooms you sit in.

What'd you tell a man?

What'd you say?

Yes, Your Honor.

That's the room you sit in.

Yes, Your Honor.

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I don't think that's right this second. Before we continue, I'm going to say rest in peace to Roberta Flack.

For sure.

Rest in peace.

Rest in peace, Roberta Flack.

The legend.

Rest in peace to Al Troutwig.

For sure.

Knicks broadcaster.

That fucked me up.

That fucked me up.

And Gwen McCray.

Gwen McCray, yeah.

And Gwen McCray passed.

So rest in peace to everybody that we lost.

Again, rest in peace to Irv.

His brother Chris Gotti did an interview talking about his last poker game

when he was eating Chinese food and had that massive stroke.

I had heard that story in the street about the poker game.

It's just sad.

Food is killing us, man.

I ain't going to hold you.

I thought Jerry Butler, too.

Singer.

It's all Singer.

Rest in peace.

Rest in peace, Jerry Butler.

Yeah, I thought about, again, Irv and Clark and everybody

when I went to go get that full body MRI shit.

So rest in peace.

I encourage everybody out there, check on your health.

Check on your health. Health is wealth.
Don't be afraid of the doctor. So rest in peace.
I encourage everybody out there, check on your health. Check on your health.

Health is wealth.

Don't be afraid of the doctor.

Just go.

Yeah.

Just go.

Just go.

That's it.

It was tough to hear about Roberta Flack

and the circumstances.

You know, her age,

her dying from getting her back kicked in here

on the JVP.

Last week.

Snicket crazy.

When y'all off.

She actually lost her battle with

fuck.

Hate. Not hate.

You monsters. Y'all tore her up last week.

She died of a broken heart.

We did not kill Roberta Flack.

I need to investigate this, man.

Y'all feel like shit that the last thing

y'all said about Roberta Flack was that she

was elevator music? How do you feel about that?

King Wawa. Don't look at your phone now.
You ain't got nobody to call. How do you feel about that? Do you feel bad? No.
Roberta Flack is a black grape. He can do what he want, nigga.
He ain't signed. He ain't signed.
He ain't signed. He ain't signed.
He ain't signed. He ain't signed.
No, I ain't signed. Oh, you did? You did? Clear it up.
It's not. Clear it up.
Clear it up. Why do I got to clear it up for you? Because if we say you didn't, and we made a spectacle about it, you should come up here and say, I did.
No, I shouldn't. I should tell the spectacle.
Oh, you want the narrative to run that you didn't? In my hood, they say spectators get spit on. Some old school shit from the 40s.
I don't know. That's what I'm talking about.
It's crazy. Strumbling my pain.
Speaking of hoods, right, I bumped into a list of the... Oh, my God.
You bumped into what? Well, yeah, because I follow all of the New Jersey pages, like New Jersey News, New Jeruse this, Jersey that, Garden State this. I follow all of them.
Red man. It'd be really interested in New Jersey news, but I bumped into one that wanted to tell me about the five dirtiest places in New Jersey.
You saw that? Go ahead. I'm going to play it for y'all, but I do disagree with it.
Yeah, let me hear it. All right, fuck it.
Which is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey? Most New Jerseyans know that the cleanest place to live in New Jersey is Ridgewood.

So, which is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey?

You got a little horror soundtrack behind you?

Yeah, yeah.

Patterson.

Patterson struggles with trash disposal, abandoned buildings.

Don't do pizza.

Poor sanitation enforcement.

That's the Silk City.

Illegal dumping.

I'm not mad.

And industrial pollution.

I agreed with this one.

Patterson is dirty. water and overall cleanliness

is

Fourth place

Reply your wife is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey because they're aging infrastructure

No, Irving's gonna be number one and poor sanitation caused trash buildup

I don't know enough about the same to know where to call littered streets

What are flooding that worse? Yes,. Yeah, there's different parts of Passaic, for sure.
Third place, Elizabeth. Oh, shit.
Elizabeth's industrial activity. Overcrowding and poor waste management caused air, water, and stormwater pollution.
Littered streets and declining local environmental quality. In the second place, Jersey City.
Oh, shit. Wow.
Passaic. Watch your fucking mouth about Jersey City.
Littered streets. Littered streets.
Industrial pollution. They about to say some bullshit.
I think he's wrong about Jersey City. Jersey City's nice now.
What part? That's true, too. Hold up.
Number one. Before announcing the first place, comment in the section.
No, nigga. We not comment at.
We're not liking and subscribing. Just give us number one.
The place ranks first with air pollution, litter, industrial waste, illegal dumping, aging infrastructure, and high crime worsened sanitation issues.

Camden?

Smog and neglected public spaces across the city.

That's Newark.

Get the fuck out of here.

Get the fuck out of here.

So wait, Camden and Trenton weren't on the list.

That's not Jersey.

Oh, it's not?

Stop.

Camden is Jersey. That's that North Jersey bullshit.
But they've been adding some things in Camden. That's fake.
They've been fixing Camden up a little bit. Newark and Jersey City should be on this list.
Not the one and two, at least. Irvington not being on this list is a problem.
That should be number one. Irvington is Beirut, my niggas.
Irvington should be on the list. Irvington is, even I know that.
Irvington is Beirut My niggas Yeah Irvington should be on the list Irvington Even I know that Irvington is fucked up Newark ain't Newark anymore I am It's part No he's right But again with all of them cities They're all big as hell I ain't been to East Orange In a while East Orange No not even East Orange They cleaned it up Not even close East Orange ain't gonna be in the top 10 Top 15. North need to be number one.
You do that, nigga. Irvington, New Jersey is number one.
Nah, man. Nah, Patterson and Camden got it.
All right, it's a global broadcast, so I don't want to focus on New Jersey. I just thought that one and two for us three was, yeah, that was a little crazy.
Okay, anything in music that we need to get to? Yes. Who wants to tell Rolling Stone to shut the fuck up? Hey, Rolling Stone, shut the fuck up.
It was so... Rolling Stone says, I'm not even going to read it from the thingamajiggy.
Rolling Stone says that Thriller was damn near a perfect album until they got to Lady in My Life. It was part of the 50 worst songs on great albums list they made.
And the Lady in My Life came up number 20. They said that Lady in My Life not only was the worst song on Thriller, but a horrible choice to end the album with.
I don't remember the song. You've heard it.
You know what? You've heard it on the radio. I got it.
You've heard it. He's an immigrant.
The boys to men. He's an immigrant.
I got him. I'm an immigrant.
You are an immigrant. Du Bois to men.
He's an immigrant. I got him.
I'm an immigrant?

You are an immigrant.

Oh, you great.

I'm not a migrant.

No, you're right.

I was born here, you fucking weirdo.

You was born here for real?

They're bugging.

Yeah, come on. They're bugging.

This is a great way to hit the album, actually.

What?

Just let mellow you right on out.

Go home.

We're all still got shit to fuck up. Ay.
Ay. There'll be no darkness tonight.
Come on now. Yo, this song is fine no matter where you place it and no matter what R&B album you place it on.
Let's put your trust in my heart and make me paradise Hey! Talk to him, mate. You're every wonder in this world to me Let's go real quick.
40 and up up 50 and up out there My god Oh my God. I can make you feel more.
Here's your band. And maybe through the years, gonna love you more each day.
So I promise you tonight that you will always be the lady in my life. Here's what fucks me up about this.
Blasphemy. The thing is, if you wanted to make, and I love Thriller, if you wanted to pick one off Thriller, there is a song.
All you had to do was say the girl is mine. Yeah, get Paul McCartney ass the fuck out of here.
Get Paul McCartney the fuck up out of here. Yeah, you can't say that.
That song did not age well. We can't say that.
No, I'm saying it's cool not going to say that. But I mean, the song is, to me, that one always felt out of step with the album.

It's a little bit corny.

It doesn't age well.

And it's not a terrible song.

But if you had to pick one off a thriller, that's the one you pick off.

And Monica and Brandy smoked Mike and Paul McCartney's boots.

Yeah, easy.

They smoked they boots.

Yeah.

Good, man.

I'm looking at the whole list.

They didn't get one right up here, though.

He's mad.

He's mad.

They got, uh, drunk the fuck out of here. I'm a lover the whole list.
They did get one right up here, though. He's mine.
She's mine. They got Drunken Hot Girls.
That shit the fuck out here. I'm a little bit of a fighter.
What about Drunken Hot Girls? No, I was making sure it was on the list. He's right.
And it is others. He's right.
In terms of what? Terrible songs on the album. Terrible songs on great albums.
I like that song. That song is hard.
That song should not have been on that album. That song is hard.
It's a mess. What's the song, Ice? Drunken Hot.
Did they get Drake's birthday song? Happy Birthday? Ratchet, Ratchet, Happy Birthday. Is that on there? It's your fucking birthday.
Girl, it's your birthday today. But it said on great albums, though.
Yeah, but I say it. What album is that? Scorpio.
Scorpio. It's that green album.
I like that album. I got Bad Blood up there by Taylor Swift.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that.
Yeah, they got Bad Blood on there by Taylor Swift. I love Bad Blood.
I like Bad Blood. Y'all tripping.
I like Bad Blood. They tripping.
You know Bad Blood. Tay Tay Kill Bad Blood.
You definitely know Bad Blood. I'm also not asking Rolling Stone about their opinions I think they be doing trolley shit just for conversation purposes.
That's the game now. I hate that's what all lists of me.
I hate music journals. Clicky shit.
Clicky shit. It's a joke.
Rage baiting.

Yeah, rage baiting. That's a good way to put it.

It's rage baiting.

It's exactly what it is.

Yeah, no, that's true.

They need my life.

That's fucking crazy.

Gotta go down right now.

What was number one if that was number 20?

Just out of curiosity.

That blood was 14.

I'd be curious to hear the top 10 in general.

I'll give you the top 10 real quick.

Let's go for it.

10, the Stooges, We Will Fall.

Who knows?

9, the Beatles, Good Morning, Good Morning. 8, The Who, Silas Stingy.
That is white-ass listening. Yeah, exactly.
7, The Beach Boys, Student Demonstration Time. Oh, my God.
6, Simon and Garfunkel, Voices of Old People. Stop.
5, Black Sabbath, FX. 4, Elton John, Jamaica Jerkoff.
What? 3, Guns N' Rosesoses Wait, what? Wait, slow down Go back to that one Elton John's a freaky, freaky boy Find that record, Joe What the hell What the hell What he went to Jamaica and did Jerkoff Yo, what the guan boy You better Yo, what the Stop Can you find that record? Yo That's the other one here It's trash not. Trash.
That was on Yellow Brick Road, I believe. Yeah.
Oh, damn. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
Three is Guns N' Roses, My World. That song is trash, too.
Two is Pink Floyd, Seamus. And one is The Police, Mother.
And that's why they would never get rid of Paul McCartney on that list. That's what I would.
Exactly. Yo, dawg, keep Michael Jackson off your white-ass list, man.
That list was extra white. Super white.
I don't even know some of them shits. Yeah.
And Vinalago. And Vinalago.
Extra white. White remix.
Yo, those guys are cool. All right, so we said fuck Rolling Stone.
What else in music do we need to get to?

Y'all want to do J. Cole versus Freddie Gibbs?

We can do it. Yeah.
Let's do it. I'm not mad at it.
Well, why are we doing that? It's Freddie Gibbs versus J. Cole.
Yeah. Why are we doing that? Well, Gibbs been shooting at Cole pretty much.
I think it opened the door to say you can't keep talking about how well you rap and how you rap better than everybody if you won't engage because that's the spirit of hip-hop. And I don't think it's...
I think that's a little misconception. I don't think Cole won't engage.
He just didn't want to get in that. With that.
I also don't think that battling is necessarily the entire spirit of hip-hop. Exactly.
It might not be the entire spirit, but it is one of the pillars. You got to be battle-tested, man, to be up there.
All of the greats that we name are battle-tested. That's one of the things.
Is Rakim battle-tested? Yes. Is Andre battle-tested? I mean, like, it's some greats that ain't battle-tested.
Yes, they are. That's one of the things.
Is Rakim battle-tested? Yes. Is Andre's battle-tested? I mean, like, it's some great that ain't battle-tested.
Yeah. All right, so Freddie Gibbs tweeted out the yawn emoji.
Then he said, niggas be rapping about how they kill rappers and yada, yada, yada careers and blah, blah, blah, but be backing out of rap beefs. All right, so Freddie Gibbs did go on a little run of Instagram reels putting font on the black screen when J.
Cole dropped clouds. Got it.
All right, so that's how we got here. Yeah.
And then a lot of- And I guess, yeah, Freddie Gibbs has been- Yeah. And then people are saying this is the right person.
Like, hey, Cole, make an example out of somebody that's a formidable opponent. Why not him? That you don't have a personal relationship with, you know that Kendrick and Drake shit was going to go way left.
Right. So if you want somebody that's a formidable opponent, because he is, he goes, he goes, let's see what you got.
And I do agree with Cole says a lot of like, I'll take any of y'all heads off, I'm him. You got to get in the ring at some point.
You can't walk around saying, I'll knock any nigga out in here. Okay, that's a fair report.
And then when somebody says, all right, what's up? You just can't do that. That's fair.
It's still weight classes. It is.
So you saying what? I'm saying that there's still weight classes. I agree with that.
Are you saying they're not there in different weight classes? We talking about just rapping. I feel like we've had this talk here before, and I said that before.
That they're not the same. Are we talking about just rapping? That's all we're talking about.
This is just rap. Yeah, they're in different weight classes.
Who's in a higher weight class? J. Cole.
It's only one up. I think they're pretty close to the same weight class.
It's only one up. In just rapping.
Pretty close is not the same weight class. It's one up.
It's one up. I think they're in the same weight class in just rapping.
Freddie Gibbs is my man, and he listens to this part. I don't want to come off a way taking the other side in this.
I just never heard anybody put Freddie Gibbs in J. Cole's weight class.
I'm not just speaking for me that's why I'm speaking for the same And that's why I think Niggas are shooting Like yo dawg You be getting more Than other niggas That's out here Putting pin to pad Show me Who have we heard Freddie Gibbs battle I was about No I was gonna say it. It don't matter.
I'm here. It does matter.
Why? I'm here now. Stop it.
He hasn't battled that I know. Stop it.
No, that's not true. I got some records.
We got records where he popping and shit and talking and shit, and we can assume what it's about. Those exist, right? But the other person got engaged to make it a battle.

That's my point.

And can we make the same conversation

about Cole?

Yes.

Yes.

Well, that's what

they were doing, kind of.

That's why I asked it

about Gibbs.

Because if a formidable opponent

were to say something to Cole,

like Gibbs is,

I'm not mad at that,

but if you're saying,

yo, you're not battle tested,

you ran from the fucking battle,

you ain't smoking nothing,

then I'm looking at you like,

all right, who you smoked?

I might have shot that nigga

and they ain't shoot back.

I shot them.

Thank you. But if you're saying, yo, you're not battle tested.
You ran from the fucking battle. You ain't smoking nothing.
Then I'm looking at you like, all right, who you smoked? I might have shot that nigga. Yeah, but I shot them.
I shot them. I'll let my gun go.
Pause. No, that's not pause.
All right. All right.
That's fair. Yeah.
Yeah, you got to prove it. Like, you saying this.
Like I said, Cole is the one running around saying, I'm out anybody. I'm that nigga.
All right. Well, somebody wants to, you got to show me now.
So somebody going to stand up and say, I bet. Y'all know that and, oh man, I should just shut the fuck up.
I don't know why I ain't talking. Well, good.
You get paid to talk. I get paid for y'all to talk.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
Yeah, you got it. No, that's a a great one I ain't never heard Is that respond I don't know what the fuck to do I'm responding I guess I guess He texted his attorney Y'all know that in Hip hop The bigger guy Gets to If I'm Tank Davis I get to turn turn down this fight.
Of course. But you got to fight at some point.
Exactly. I don't think it should be a strike on J.
Cole's record for turning down a Freddie Gibbs invite. I think it looks worse if he takes it.
You got to strike somebody. But I don't have to strike the person that showed up to my door seemingly trying to get hit.
Here's the other thing for me. If after backing out of Drake and Kendrick, you then step into Freddie Gibbs, it might look like you got picks.
Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
That's not true. I'm just saying that's how it would look to people.
That's how it would look to me. And I love Freddie Gibbs.
You got a legit reason why you didn't jump in that fight. If you didn't have that, then yeah, it would.
But you got a legit reason why I didn't jump in that fight. Y'all don't think, again, I'm not trying to rep for Cole.
Y'all don't think that it's possible that he could think that that fight might lower his cachet? No. It could.
Y'all crazy. I think right now...
You're crazy. You talking about the Freddie Gibbs one? I think it does the opposite.
I think it does the opposite. Yes.
Yes. He might.
Because I'm me. I'm this.
If I'm me and I'm all the M's up in the world and I'm doing things by my rules and my book and I'm independent and I was in that top three talk, no matter how y'all feel about how I handled it, it was a designated top three. Legitimately.
And now my very next contest is Freddie Gibbs. I can see him feeling like just in namesake and likeness, that's not where I want to be mixed up at.
It's some of these podcasters every day that be shooting at me, showing up to the door to get hit. Hold up, homeboy.
Ain't not Freddie Gibbs. It's not that I feel like I can't kill you with the snap of a finger It's that Me even snapping my finger to you Make me look like Yeah But what So when you snap your finger then But wait hold on So why you keep running around Saying I'll snap my finger yo I'll snap my finger dog Don't make me do it Don't make me do it Yo it's art of expression I don't want to strip MCs of their ability to talk to a hypothetical opponent.

True.

But you're the same person that came in here and said, yo, MCing is based on this, this, this, this, and this.

So now if we take that out, stop saying it.

What you would have did.

Stop.

It's not fair.

It's not fair.

Because you know what I would have did.

That's not fair.

I'm not even going to lead you to that standard. What I'm saying is this.
Kendrick, Drake, Cole are listed as the big three. So anybody under those two niggas which you wouldn't shoot at would be four, five, six, seven, and eight.
So now you're saying, yo, I'm not going to come down to shoot at nobody beneath me. What if you get to 25? But the point is, and I'm not no disrespecting Freddie Gibbs again.
I'm a huge fan. True, true, true.
What I'm saying is if Gibbs is six, maybe. But if he's 25.
He's not 25. If he's not 25, then just rappers.
He's not 25. But I'm not 25, one and two.
What if J. Cole's statement earlier about the Drake and Kendrick beef, we only taking it to apply to that? What if that's a blanket statement about beef? To everybody.
Then to Freddie Gibbs' point is stop running around here saying like you'll murder any of these niggas. I don't think that's fair.
I feel like it's- I understand it. Wait, hold on.
I understand it. I'm not arguing against it.
And there's a lot of people that's like, yo, I don't want to hear that talk from Cole no more until you engage with somebody. Yo, but the peaceful niggas- Hold on for a minute, Flip.
The peaceful niggas, while they go in the booth, should have the freedom to explore any type of bar that they want to explore without somebody taking it personally or feel like I'm talking to them. Also, killing someone can mean a bunch of different things.
It doesn't necessarily mean you want to battle head-to-head pause if applicable. I'll kill you on any song.
I'll put me on a song with anybody. I'm going to kill them.
To me, I feel like it's risk versus reward. If Cole wins, we expect him to win.
If he lose, it puts a stain on. See, I didn't want to say that to Santa Way, but if I'm J.
Cole sitting in North Carolina somewhere, what do I gain from that? Letting you niggas know the style. Yo, all right, so it's a Jay-Z bar for everything.
Once you get tagged lame, the games follow the leader. So now, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, respectfully stayed out of the other shit.
I think that was a logical and rational move for him to do. But now the rest of you little niggas, if I'm looking at you like little niggas, not going to keep playing me.
One of y'all going to get punched in your face. It's like running around niggas smacking your hat off.
Right? You in school, niggas smacking your hat off. You know you can beat them.
That's what they get? They smack your hat off? I'm sure your hat got smacked off. My hat was way more than mine, man.
You never got smacked off. Well, you was four for one.
And? You were shorter. And? You think Ice hat got hit off his head more than yours? My hat didn't get hit off.
My hat didn't either, sir. But go ahead.
Finish your point, though. You ain't have a hat on.
He wants to make some eight and a half. He had to tell me me mama just put some Vaseline on that hand

and sent him off

oh

with the drag scully

yo

yo

but um

at some point

you gotta punch a nigga

in the face

so they can stop

playing with you

and I think

what's gonna happen is

if Gibbs shoot

he don't say nothing

then the next nigga

gonna shoot

then the next nigga

gonna shoot

you gotta do something

I think all them niggas

is fooling their audiences

so

I don't

I don't

I don't

I'm sorry. then the next nigga gonna shoot, then the next nigga gonna shoot.
You gotta do something? I think all them niggas is fooling their audiences. So? I don't, I don't, the only part I disagree with in your shit, yes, we all clown J.
Cole for the apology. I don't feel like everybody has tagged him as lame.
Y'all know who the fuck Jermaine Cole is. Indeed.
I said, you didn't hear what I said. I said, once you get tagged lame, the gang's followed as leader.
I don't think that happened to J. Cole yet.
That's happened. I think he's saying if Gibbs and other people keep doing that and he don't respond that that's what's going to happen so he got to stop that by pushing back down.
I think that Cole along with Kendrick He became an easy target to shoot at. I don't think Cole is operating amongst the normal confines of hip hop rules.
I don't. Can I ask a question? I agree with that a thousand percent.
Who is a formidable opponent for J. Cole? Yo.

Who's in his weight class?

I'll try to answer that.

But again, I don't think J. Cole wants to beef with anybody.

Okay.

That's my opinion.

But I'll do it to engage.

Nobody.

We said it at the same time.

Nobody.

Cool.

Nobody. So that's what we're saying.
If I I'm not fighting Drake if I'm not fighting Kendrick nobody I'm saying nobody I still say I don't think he would want to do that with anybody out there cool yo niggas that grow the dreads and don't care about jewelry and none of that other shit yo if you came in the game the game with a Caesar... Seriously, because some of these niggas just came in with the baby dreads, no hang time, looking stupid and dusty and poor and poor.
Talk about it. But if you came in with a Caesar...
Got your Bob Marley bag in one. And in a few years, you not only started the dreads, but went through the weird transition of it looking stupid...
A box braids first. You had to look stupid for at least six years or some shit.
You know who else came in the game with Cesar and got Dreds now? Hov. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And that don't apply to him.
I don't know if that... What are you talking about? Hov shot at niggas way down here just because none of y'all are going to play with not Dreds Hov.
Oh, yeah, before the D dread hoes. I'm just saying.
Cesar Cole, dread Cole, none of them niggas shot. I ain't going to lie.
We were shooting at hoes. And he shot back.
We were shooting at hoes. He ain't always shooting back.
He didn't always shoot back. Yes, he did.
Who didn't he shoot back at? Cole shot a little bit though too. He didn't shoot back at Joe? He shot back at Joe.
No. He shot back at Joe.
He said, shut your little ass up. That's what I'm saying.
And then every now and then he'll remind them. Let me see your reminder again, little nigga.
Just in case you forgot. Fuck out of here, nigga.
And give me your beat. Yo.
I didn't even talk about that one. No, I'm talking about all of them.
You're talking about reminder. But not just Joe.
I mean, he shot back at fucking Jim Jones. He did.
Cole shot at Wale and Ye and them on that shit where he's in the back of the bus. The false prophet shit.
False prophet. He did.
He did. There we go.
Yeah, false prophet. Let's go, Pucks.
And he shot at Kanye. Yo, you hurt my feelings, Ye.
He did. That's a shot.
I don't think that niggas in the rap game is running around looking at J. Cole like he's sweet.
I't care what they say In that booth I don't care what they say I don't think nobody Thinks he's sweet I don't think Freddie Gibbs Thinks he's sweet That's what I'm saying I think Gibbs is only Even approaching it this way Because he knows the opponent That he's talking to But I think Gibbs is also Confident that Hey if he engaged I'm willing Let's go I can hold my own Yeah I don't think he's sweet But I ain't sweet Yeah Gibbs and Cole is fucking He't sweet. Yeah, Gibbs and Cole is fucking...
He's on his Joe Budden shit.

Me and Drake.

Yeah, he's on his Joe Budden shit.

It's me and Drake.

But them niggas knew not to play.

No, by the time I did that,

I already had a track record

of whatever you want to call it,

40 and two.

Like, whatever you...

It's a record.

It's a substantial...

You document it.

Hold it, too.

Get your shit off.

Lil B or Arse.

Lil B.

Some people feel like I lost the game. He lost to Arse and Lil B.
Some people feel like that button, button, button, button shit was effective. I ain't mad.
Shout out to the game. My career's over.
It was effective. It was effective.
Lil B is. I smoked games boots.
I loved it. I thought it was great.
I didn't play with Nick's. But that don't matter.
It ain't about me. My point is, by the time that happened, I got a record out there.
I wasn't saying that. And that you would engage.
Yeah, I wasn't saying that just zero, zero, and zero. I got you.
Niggas ain't want to fuck with you. Everybody that's zero and zero got to shut the fuck up.
That's not true. Yes, it is.
Because guess what? You got to get in the ring to get one and a half. And then two and one.
And then two and O. And then three and O.
Go spar. Get one.
Go get one. Fight back.
I'm not his swinging. You want to start somewhere, Josh.
Fight back. Your first fight ain't J.
Cole. And J.
Cole's first fight ain't Gibbs. This is not Gibbs' first fight.
I don't think this should be either one of their first fights. This is not Gibbs' first fight.
Even if they was going to fight, it's a fight that should be led up to. This ain't a first fight.
These niggas don't want to fight no more. Then everybody shut the fuck up there.
And I ain't going to lie, these little niggas be shooting. That's why we talking about the rappers right now.
We talking about the Wale, Big Sean. I got a list of niggas that I think just on sheer marketing should go smoke something.
I got a list of people that it don't need to be no problems with nobody. You should wake up and just go pick somebody and smoke them.
And that's exactly what you would do, especially if your career fell off a little bit, a la a couple of niggas you named. I've been trying to gas a nigga to do that for months now.
Yo, let me go show these niggas how I go. I'm a little bit of a battery.
Yo, just fire, nigga. Just go ahead.
Wale could use going could you Going to smoke somebody I'm keeping Big Sean out of this Because I've seen him attempt to smoke Smoke a cig outside And he in a different space you know With his old mentor all that stuff that he's on The therapy I'll leave Sean alone I wouldn't mind me whole class from last decade, I wouldn't mind if they mixed it out.

They're too quiet for me.

Say what you want

about Drake and Kendrick

and all these niggas.

In 2024,

shit got active.

That's true.

Absolutely.

Sure did.

And boy,

was it entertaining.

Yeah, go get active.

If the two biggest niggas

could get in the ring

and start fighting,

any of y'all niggas

could do it.

That's true.

And they don't even

got to go where

they shit went. That was personal.
They didn't like each other Yeah That was personal Niggas could just rap Sure I agree with it J. Cole ain't coming Outside with Freddie Gibbs And if he come outside Of the wrong bar Then Freddie Gibbs might I mean it's not worth it Hit him with a bottle Yes Yeah Yeah He can rap He can rap his ass off Both theseiggas can rap, which turned into a Discog for Discog thing online.
I'm not doing it. Me neither.
I'm not doing it. Nope.
Good luck to both of those gentlemen. I'm minding my business.
In the event that y'all mix it up, I will be by a speaker. And waiting to go to a microphone.
No, no, no. I ain't going to go to a microphone.
Oh, yeah, to part about it oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no for sure for sure for sure oh we know not that microphone it's not your bag no more joke you are the you might be you're doing a lot of highlighting of what's not in my bag today I was just about to say watches, raps that's not true you're doing a lot of highlights of what's not in my bag. That's not true.
Your watch is amazing. I just said your watch costs more than everybody watching and put together.
Watch. Watch.
I don't know of another watch that he got. He making me mad.
You got another watch? You got to go buy some shit. Watch.
You got to go buy some shit. These ain't the same.
They say gangsters. And I didn't know where your two losses came from.
So that was me bigging you up. I didn't know nobody that smokes you in the rap.
Big me up in a manner to where it won't be confused by some of the audience. Make it direct like a kindergarten.
I said, yo, where your two losses? You said 40 and two. I said, where the two? I thought you was about 35 and 0.
From my book. There you go.
I think I never lost. He be hove.
Hove ain't battle. I'm 21.
What the fuck are you talking about? Hove didn't battle. Hove did that.
Shoe fly. Shoe fly.
Listen, if you come outside and I come outside and the battle is over, and then six, seven, eight years later, you come back when I'm minding my business and say, if you need a reminder Joe Buttons a bum ass nigga then yeah, I feel like I did alright at 21, 22 years old Tall task too by the way Tall task at 22 years old dealing with the best rapper in the world Yeah, especially when the battle Go ahead, go sit down somewhere I'll sit in a bar at this nigga tomorrow And you won't I will sit in a bar with this nigga tomorrow if y'all put the banner in my head suit me up oh man, this guy's a nutcase let's see what else what else is out there in music alright, there is a word written up there that I won't say but we already reported that that Diddy's attorney stepped back, stepped down from the case. He said he did that because he couldn't morally continue with what he knew.
The whole internet tried to guess what it is that he could know. I'm not going to play that game because it's too big of a broadcast.
What I will say to y'all is, you know what, I'll just say it. I ain't going to ask y'all shit.
If I did'll just say I ain't gonna ask y'all shit if I did some shit to file and I get a defense attorney I want you to defend it that's your job I'm coming to tell you I'm coming to tell you the truth about what I did so you could defend it it's not for you to pull out your moral compass and tell me that you can't continue yada, yada, yada, yada. But there are...
Here's the problem. Legally, you can't do that, right? It depends on...
Unless you're mounting an affirmative defense. In other words, if I'm going on trial for murder and you my attorney, Joe, and I say, well, yeah, I killed him.
You now cannot defend me as not guilty. It's not true.
Well, not guilty is not the only defense. That's what I just said, right? So if my defense was, I didn't do that shit.
It wasn't me. You got the wrong person.
And then somehow you bump into information where you can no longer deny that you know that I did it. We can either change the defense strategy.
To self-defense or crime of passion or something like that. Right, what we call affirmative defense.
That's why I did it. That's called affirmative defense.
I didn't know that. Yeah, but you can't suborn perjury, so you can't then go out there knowing as an officer of the court that I did some shit.
I'm not saying that's what happened with Diddy. I'm just saying that's where lawyers sometimes pull back because they no longer can have plausible deniability.
That's why lawyers often say, don't tell me shit. So I shouldn't tell you.
I should lie to my lawyer.

Yeah, I didn't know that.

I want to be defended.

A lot of the mobster lawyers,

they knew the truth

and they still came up

with a defense.

But if they ever got caught

doing that.

Oh, if they got caught.

Right.

And again, I don't know.

But what about lawyer

and client confidentiality?

Right.

So you can defend me in a way that doesn't invite me to say something that you know isn't true. Gotcha.
Okay. You can raise reasonable doubt without getting me to say.
Got it. Like you can't bring me to the stand and question me and say, did you do it? And I say, no.
And you know I did it. Because then you play in a part.
You subordinate perjury. Exactly.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
Right. All right, that makes sense.
That makes sense. It makes sense.
And we don't know if that's what happened with Diddy's thing. What Diddy's lawyer said that people are reading too much into is he said, under no circumstances can I effectively defend him anymore.
That language people read as, you know. What I found out was so horrendous that I'm morally against it.
And that's not necessarily the case. The reason when you withdraw as an attorney at this

stage in the game, the trial is in May.

You have to be able to present not just to the court,

but to potentially the bar association

that there's no way

you can responsibly defend this person. It could be for

a lot of reasons. It could be, I got

surgery and I'm going to be away for three months. There's no

way under any circumstances that I could defend him well.

My family has some shit going on. I can't

possibly give this case as much attention as need be. Exactly.
But this is the problem with that and I said this last week. I think that when you come out and you put out this ambiguous language, you open up the door to speculation.
Right. And we know that the media game is piranhas in the water just waiting around for something to chew on.
I think that that was irresponsible of him and I think that is going to weigh negatively on Puff. I don't know if he put it out in the public or if that's what he said to the judge.
Which you have to do. Which was then made public.
Which you have no choice to do. I just think that don't build well for Puff.
It bad. And it might be nothing.
It might have absolutely nothing to do with his case.

Could have something to do

with the lawyer.

Well, in other egregious music news,

I don't know what y'all

was doing this week.

Anybody happen to see that

murder for hire on the timeline?

No.

No.

Yes.

Sorry.

I'm not going to say

the young lady's name,

but all right.

The dolls are mad at Cash Dolls

because she went on Shannon Sharp shit and said how she felt about all these other dolls and she challenged anybody who was feeling a way to get in the booth and rap like Freddie Gibbs is doing but Asian Doll who I think is unfair to her that the very first time we speak about her on the broadcast is under this light. Like if we don't speak about people, I like to just not speak about them, but I just thought this was so wild.
Agent Doll says, now it's called the FBI and the police. Laugh my ass off.
Bitch said she was going to slap me on stage and I said I was going to kill her. Now I'm wrong.
Laugh my ass off. This bitch was going to die in real life.
I told my niggas, we gonna let her do her show. She

got kids with her. Just for the bitch

to get on Twitter the next day, popping it.

And then somebody said, died for what? Didn't she

just troll me and say she left my city

untouched? And I showed her why

she left my city untouched.

You didn't see the bitch start with me

or I'm just saying shit out of nowhere.

You hoes pick and choose and that's why

I don't give a fuck.

See, now somebody on the internet, and that's Thank you. you didn't see the bitch start with me or I'm just saying shit out of nowhere.
You hoes pick and choose

and that's why I don't give a fuck.

See now somebody on the internet

and that's why the internet needs a person.

It's more than that though.

She deleted something.

She put the screenshot up.

I know.

Oh okay.

I know.

I'm not touching that.

We don't need to get into it.

She posted something

that could be seen as evidence.

Got it.

Okay.

And that's why just the trolling shit I'm not. Trolling? I'm not.
Dog, niggas need Crook 101. Like, I ain't going to lie.
Niggas need Crook 101. Yo, when we was running around young, niggas was doing their best to hide the shit that they was doing.
Now these niggas will show you, yeah, I killed them on 34th Street right under the stoplight.

Over there, yeah, go look. It's a bullet casing right there in the bushes.
Like, they,

and then we be mad and we come up here and we

cape for niggas when they get life or

when they be on trial for life, when these niggas

is telling you the crimes that they commit

and bragging about the shit on records.

You don't think that if social media existed back then,

the same shit wouldn't have just happened?

Hell no. I think so.
Fuck no.

He just was rapping about crimes that were being done.

That was very, very few people.

At the end. that if social media existed back then, the same shit wouldn't have just happened? Hell no.
I think so. Fuck no.
He just was rapping about crimes that would be done. That was very, very few people.
I think if social media existed back then, the same thing would have happened. And I say that because it was crimes that happened.
Look, it was crimes that happened. I can't hear you.
What? Don't interrupt for you. I'm going to say it when you finish.
It was crimes that happened that we wasn't there about, that we heard about because niggas ran they mouths. Same shit is happening, but now niggas got phones and they're running they mouth on the internet.
Now everybody got this. I got to prove how tough I am.
I got to prove what I'm... Here's the difference.
How much money I got. I just got to prove shit.
Everybody didn't grow up in the same way. There you go.
Here's the difference. No, everybody didn't grow up in the streets.
Back in the days, a lot of those people had gangsters actually in their cliques, which would prevent that. Let me tell you the difference from back then.
Back then, niggas had real old head niggas that taught you the rules of the game. Today, niggas is learning the game from hip hop and rap songs.
They learn the game on the home. Back in the day, you couldn't come outside and do what the fuck you wanted to do.
Today, niggas could come outside and do whatever with no recourse. So back in the day, your old head nigga would have stepped in you and said, sit your little dumb ass down before you get everybody locked up.
That be my problem when we get to like comparing eras and shit. Pre-NWA, it was like a peace movement.
Yeah, it was. It was.
Like it was, so again, everybody don't come from the same hip hop. So when I say that, when Flip say that Say what Niggas was doing that Back in the day I can't jump in And say No they wasn't Because I don't know If we're talking about The same things For me I was just saying Okay Fucking X-Clan wasn't doing that Public Enemy wasn't doing that Kumo D wasn't doing that KRS wasn't doing was in gang.
Heavy D. Heavy D wasn't doing that.
LL was running around with all the Queens niggas and wasn't doing that. Now he was with a gang.
But that's the point. Yeah, but that's the point.
LL, he was with a... But all of them niggas, they didn't get on the record and start talking about all of the street activities.
They did the opposite. Right.
Just the opposite. They talked about rapping fucking bringing the peace.
Yeah. Because they didn't want the light.
Salt and pepper. Even when niggas was beefing.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
The gangster niggas didn't want that light on them. Right? Yeah.
This is my money. This is my resource.
This is how I get the money. This is how I can change the street money into clean money.
So we don't want any type of police or any that type of light on us. Attention.
We don't want to be in a picture. Yeah.
We don't want to be in a newspaper clip. When do y'all think that changed? Joe.
When do y'all think that changed? It goes by person. If you're asking me.
It didn't change. It didn't change because some niggas are still outside doing mad crooked shit and they don't want no attention to them.
Fair.eech and BMF was brought down because they put billboards up. It's niggas that's getting money like Meech was getting money.
Well, not as many niggas to that level. But they still don't.
Feed up at the mayor's office on the desk taking a picture. And guess what happens? It's niggas that's getting money and have been getting money for decades that didn't bring that attention to themselves.
I'm not saying everybody. I've asked y'all when did it change though.
Bro, it was niggas back then. We all seen Frank Lucas movie.
It was Frank Lucas, then it was Nicky Barnes. It was always that.
It was some niggas that wanted attention and some niggas that didn't. That's since the beginning of time.
What I'm saying now is niggas is glorifying some of this shit. And now little kids that are coming up under them are looking at them as the poster boy for doing dumb shit.
The niggas that we admired and the niggas that we revered, yeah, we knew what their reputations was. Yeah, we knew if you crossed a certain line, that was your ass.
But they wasn't sitting around saying, yo, if you do this to me, I'm going to kill you. You just knew you was going to get killed.
This is common sense. I used to love her.
I think the second or third verse. And I'm with him on some of that.
I highlight N.W.A. as changing a lot of what was going on.
Gangsta rap. Yeah, but niggas was conceived to some of that shit.
So when you start talking about the next people, in the 90s, I probably can't even name too many other people outside of NWA. But,

if you start a wave,

if you plant a seed

and wait for it to grow,

by 99,

2000,

2001,

niggas might be

spilling the business.

It was niggas doing it,

they made money from it.

It was a lot of

gangster rapper niggas,

they made money from it

and they took that shit

like damn near commercial.

And,

and I ain't gonna lie, again, this is why it's bad to compare errors, right? But fuck it, we here. Even if you was doing that in the 90s, it's not the same as you doing it today.
A thousand percent. A thousand percent.
Oh, for sure. Like, in the 90s, I don't think some of the social judge, well, no, that always existed, but not to highlight on it.
Joe, it wasn't a cell phone that is tracking your every location, pinging off of a site. It wasn't traffic lights that got cameras up there.
It wasn't mad shit that is going to put you right where you said you was when the nigga got killed. So technology and the technological advances were not there when NWA was running around.
Not just that. Everybody at NWA wasn't a gangster.
And I feel like back then you needed your talent to get a deal and then if we found out that you killed some nigga outside of that, then oh shit, that's crazy. Today I think it's reversed.
It's reversed. You know what else happened? Back then the street nigga was trying to find the rapper to put on yeah now the street nigga is trying to get on is the rapper the street nigga wants to be the star himself now I saw a clip this morning on the internet where somebody was asking Rallo yo what was your most expensive what was your biggest loss since becoming a rapper?

And he was like, honestly, becoming a rapper.

Wow.

He said, that's my biggest loss.

Before that, I was a dope boy.

I was moving around.

Niggas know I had the hot shit on the block.

I was making X amount of money a month,

and I was able to move around accordingly.

Soon as I decided to become a rapper,

now I had cameras on me.

Kids was asking for autographs.

People was in my face.

I couldn't move around no more.

The feds was on me. It was just hot.
And I'm watching that shit, and I'm like, then why the fuck would you become a rapper? See, that wouldn't have got asked in the 90s. The niggas wouldn't have became a rapper.
That's true. And shout out to Rollo.
Yeah, indeed. So Gangsta Rap, by the way.
You know, Gangsta Rap started in Philly. I had a quick...
Who? Spoonie? Who, A-Rap? SpK, man. Schoolie D.
The first gangster rap rap. Schoolie D.
Schoolie D. And that's...
Niggas literally PSK. Parkside Killers.
That's when people started naming their gangs, naming their shit. And that's the decline to me.
Ain't Schoolie D still locked down? Say what? Is Schoolie D in jail? No, you're thinking of Steady B. Steady B.
Steady B and them rob the bank, right? Steady B and cool C. Steady B is cool C.
For life, right? Yeah. Yeah, I followed one of these Instagram pages recently that all they do is keep me up with the crime and what rappers is in jail and for how long and when they're supposed to be released.
I be watching that shit astonished. Astonished at what rappers think they could get away with while actively trying to be a rapper.
Now or back then? It's current. Well, they had a steady being.
Yes, you murder up this one. For the most part, it's current, and that's where me and Ice, that's where I normally disagree with Ice, right? Because when he get to talking about the rappers that's doing that, those people shouldn't have rapper first.
Like, they're not rappers. They just rap.
I agree with that they kill us that rap right yeah car thief with bars yeah niggas just trying to transition over to something else but you still this fucking car thief with bars is funny I was doofy as hell locking my steering wheel up with the club you know stupid I look I could never I could never work the club. The club was a weapon.
That was just a bat. That was legal? That was legal on your metal bat? That was in the back seat.
That's it. All right, so I got to cue something up.
This one hurts me more than it hurts you. Oh, wow.
Woo. Got to cue it up, man.
I know some of y'all out there sad.

Some of y'all are feeling down.

Yo, for the audience, I don't tell my cast when I'm about to talk about shit.

They have no idea why I'm playing this record right now.

At all.

Playing it for the legendary place that we know as Hooters.

Oh, yeah.

It's a big deal. I thought it was going to be Joanne Fabrics.
Who? Joanne Fabrics. Joanne Fabrics.
Joanne Fabrics. It's like 82 stores went out of business.
It's like Michaels, but old school Michaels. Oh, and last in peace Joanne Fabrics, too.
I'm black. Word.
And you don't knit. Listen, Hooters is out of here.
I thought you were playing it for somebody else. I'm not going to lie.
I haven't seen a Hooters in 15 years. Hooters been ass in 20.
Yeah. Now, the one thing that probably led to this unfortunate, unforeseen circumstance for Hooters is the lack of Hooters.
The lack of tits. Squeeze.
I've been saying for a long time, Hooters start hiring them A-cup bitches. Rebecca.
So, yeah, when I want to go get some fucking wings. Jennifer.
And see titties. Sarah didn't get it done when she came up to my table.

Tiny B cup.

Not even a double B.

You know why?

Why?

Because the girls

with the C's and D's

was going to the other spot

that sell wings too.

What, perfections?

The other spot

sell wings too now.

Starless of perfections.

They ain't got the game on.

Yo, Hooters wings was fire.

They amazing.

It was.

They were amazing.

Hooters wings was fire. Some of the strip clubs got good wings too.
Oh yeah, for sure. I'm just saying.
Great wings. I'm just saying, I don't want us to laugh off.
You can get them to go. You got them to go? You got your wings to go.
Mermaids got them shits expressed. A little out of there.
A little out of there. You can come pick this shit up, nigga.
We'll take it on your side. Yo, I hate that you can say Stuff on the internet And it'll be true He got curbside Pick up Yo You look at Mark That nigga said Your wings was curbside Leave my man alone He got it I got out of this shit Oh man't have no food.
I didn't have no food. You ain't even getting a chance to eat.
I wasn't dead. Go ahead.
Yo, that's funny. He was dead.
Just make a stop. I don't want to step on the joke.
Go ahead. They rushed me up out of there.
Go ahead. That's fun.
Look at Mark. He didn't finish the song.
Damn. He didn't get to the pre-show Oh shit That's hilarious Alright Page one On the You wanna be famous Pamphlet Maybe page four Is Don't be stationary I don't just walk in And be stationary nowhere.
You got to move quick. I'm in and out of here.
And learn how to power walk. I know it feels uncomfortable with a man.
That nigga really does do that though. I power walk.
And I ain't sitting nowhere for no extended period of time. A nigga walk...
Yo, this is before... Like, this was a long time ago.
Way before Driver, when you used to be in New York clubs, you had to park blocks. Man, we had come out of home against...
I was just... You know, a nigga never be to the side.
That nigga used to be hard. I'm like, yo, my nigga slow down.
Shorty was a height right there. This nigga like...
look, distraction. Yo, that's what happened.
Oh, shorty ice. You the one lying.
That's how it happened. Yo, that nigga used to be hauling ass.
Food tastes good. Listen, I was outside during Mars 2112 where I just was standing on the corner smoking a cig.
That's when the stick-up kids was walking. They just came.
Hey, nigga. Oh, shit.
Look at this nigga puffing away right here. Hey, give it up, nigga.
Is that the Mars 2112? Yeah, you got robbed in Mars 2112? No. Oh.
I didn't get robbed in Mars 2112. They definitely tried to rob me in Mars 2112.
They didn't see Dill. I was by myself on the corner,

but Dill wasn't far.

Dill fixed out.

They left.

Shout out to anybody

who ever kept niggas off me.

Shout out to Ish.

You're welcome.

Yo, Ish didn't do nothing.

Ish was afraid,

so whatever was coming. Ish was afraid and didn't want to die that night.
I was with death. I was all the way with the death, nigga.
Him and his knife? Which night? I said him and his knife. Which night? Oh, shit.
He's cool, bro. Go ahead.
Ish, you ain't saved nothing, you know. You ain't saved nobody.
I didn't. You got it.
Look, uh. Also, did y'all hear about the trick that DoorDash was doing? No, I was here.
All right. Pull out my phone.
DoorDash. You had to pay it up.
DoorDash was not paying tips to the drivers. Uh-oh.
Oh, shit. That's fucked up.
The drivers were getting tips. Wow.
But DoorDash was not giving it to them. That's fucked up.
That's fucked up. That's some bullshit, my nigga.
OD. Yeah, that's wrong.
Them feeds me high as hell. They are.
They're still missing. Do you really feel it's wrong, Mr.
Tipster? I'm a great tipper. He's a great tipper.
I am an absolute. Hold on, hold on.
If I'm sitting there, I'm probably one of the best tippers in best tippers in the restaurant. I told you Mr.
Tipster. Yeah, I don't play like that.
But you do need to give people they tip. DoorDash slapped with a $16.75 million penalty for cheating delivery workers out of their tips.
For example, if DoorDash guaranteed a worker $10 and a customer tipped $3, the worker was only paid $10, with DoorDash using the tip to meet its guaranteed pay. DoorDash's deceptive model tricked workers to line their own pockets.
That's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up.
Get them. That's whack.
And they work for so little. That's not cool.
In the snow, all types of shit coming out. $9 charge over there.

Bicycles.

Nah, for real.

Yo, you're an idiot.

Is there a limit?

Oh, go ahead.

I'm sorry.

All right, just a quick question.

Do I feel bad for them niggas?

Just playing devil's advocate.

No, I do have a limit on what I'll tip them, depending on what I'm buying.

I've decided that this year.

Why are you looking at me like that, Ish?

I'm looking at you speak, my brother. I think you don't know what your face look like.
You don't know a lot about him. I'm just looking at you speak.
He likes facial self-awareness. You be like, hmm.
I'm just looking at you speak. And the sentence stands if you just take facial out.
No, I'm just saying, I'll give you an example. I buy sushi, if I'm in New York and I buy it from Blue Ribbon, it's very expensive, right? Do it, do it, there's some sushi.
Go ahead. Look, sometimes I be on set, I just want something healthy, right? So if the sushi comes to $300, do you, I have to tip the driver $60 for bringing me one box of sushi that's this big? Yes.
Yeah. Why? Tell me why.
Because you have a wedding band to match every Rolex. That's one.
No, I tip 30% in general. God damn.
So tip him 20. Yeah, but 20% on three...
So your 30% is contingent upon the price. I think there are exceptions.
There are outliers. Or like I just bought...
I just went to the juice bar. Bought a juice and a chili.
Shit came to about $20. Then I bought two bags of gummies.
So now my bill was $120. I now have to tip at the takeout right there.
You see what I'm saying? The new takeout tip shit is getting outrageous. But if somebody drove through New York on a bike to bring you your fucking blue ribbon sushi, Then you are not getting tipped because buy a vehicle and don't bring me my sushi on a bicycle.
But no. What? No, that's the easiest way.
That's the fastest way to get a tipped. Scooter.
Moped. Don't come to me on a bike.
My rule is if I go in a spot and I don't sit down, I ain't tipping. But then there's a difference between $300 and you being served and $300 and it being takeout.
Because the service is you're tipping for. Service, I always tip 30.
So if somebody just picked it up and brought it to you, then the 20% doesn't really kind of factor in. That's my thing.
If it's a pizza, sure. If somebody picked it up and brought it to you, it's a service.
It is a service, but it's not the same thing as waiting on me. You know what I'm saying? Alright, there's more.
Alright, I don't know what you talking about. Shit, that's more important.
I understand what you're saying. Then they can come back, sir, everything okay? You want another water? You want another juice? You want another drink? I'm saying that it's equally important.
It's more to me. Or more, but at least equally.
I ain't have to leave my house. The person that's picking your food up, not digging in the bag to spit on it or give you fries.
The person that you trust in to give you your food as the restaurant delivered it, that person deserves it. Got it to me.
I think that that's all of that type of shit. You think that's what? I think that that just puts the bar in hell because I think that's basic decency to not spit on my food.
No. Maybe possibly.
You're talking some Canada shit right now. The bar is in hell, number one.
The bar, number one, is in hell. And two, if you black in America, they teach you very early that people can spit in your food.
Yes. That's not for us to say the bar is in hell.
That's just knowing humans. People do that.
Yes, they do that. Yes, if you get to this drive-thru, showing your ass, I'm gonna put a nice slab of phlegm on your fucking fucking what's that shit you be ordering? What'd you be ordering? What'd you say? I make a special wonton soup for me.
Yeah. Ramen.
I'm tipping somebody for not putting phlegm in my soup. They're gonna rag your quarter pounder bun through the floor.
All tight. What? They do bullshit, man.
Some of them do bullshit. I know that but a lot of times we're worried about that when we are in the establishment and not in the takeout because...

You don't pay for your food a lot, huh?

You know what?

Listen, Mr. Narrative.

I have had it with you in these fucking narratives.

Yes, I make my own food.

Yes, I order out a lot.

Yes, I tip very fucking well because I've been in the service industry, okay?

Man, all of those are lies. They are not lies.
They are not fucking lies. What percentage of time do you pay for your food? Maybe 75, 80? You got it.
All right, anyway. Don't nobody even believe you.
Look at the room. Don't just look at me with an attitude.
That is of no consequence to me. I believe you, Mel.
Thank you. I believe Mel on that.
80%. 75, 80.
If she said 90, I wouldn't have believed it.

75, 80, I believe.

Okay.

65, 60.

Thank you.

65, 60, I would believe.

Okay.

All right.

I would believe, Mel.

All right, moving right along.

I stand with Mel.

Nigga, Mel, when Mel go outside with people, she go to the bathroom.

She not putting her hand in her pocket.

I would agree with that.

She not even going outside without fishing for somebody.

I don't think she's fishing.

And a lot of the time, I'm picking up the bill. But at seven...
Really? Yes. All right.
Mel. All right, lie.
Fuck it. You're not about to clunk you.
No. Especially if I'm...
We were rooting for you. Especially if I'm writing off the meal as a business expense.
Mm, okay. If I'm out with some of my team members...
Pay them back the cake money, then. Mel, we not talking about your...
See? You suck your teeth. Because he keeps on trying to, like...
I don't think she eats out six days a week. I don't.
That's why I think she pays her own bill. That's where, like, my makeshift Tupperware comes in.
I don't think Mel pays when she goes out, but I don't think she goes out. She doesn't pay when she goes out.
Yeah, but I don't think she goes out even twice a week. And she get away with it.
Niggas don't think twice, too, pay for Mel. I would hope not.
While the bill comes, she's talking to you. Hey, she's distracting you.
So you're pulling out your wallet. Well, I mean, are we just talking about dates? Are we talking about just regular? Friendships, not dates.
Friendships as well? No, with friendships, no. I'm pulling out my card.
I'm not going to make an assumption that just because you're a man, you're going to pay for me if we're just friends. All right, shake my hand on that.
I'm not doing that. Now look, on that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not doing that.
I'm pulling out my credit card. If you take it, that's a whole other situation.
Girls know. You pull your card out, you sit on the table, knowing that he's going to be like, no, little lady, put your money up.
I got it. Put your little discovery card up.
I don't have Discover card. Belle told you she just got a credit card when she was 46.
42. Your first? Yeah.
Okay, technically it wasn't my first. I was 18 and that whole year, we were talking about how in 18 they really get, they get you the predatory shit.
So I ran that shit up and then I was like, fuck credit cards. Credit one.
I didn't trust myself. So it was just cash was king to me for many, many, many years.
You had a credit one card? Credit one was some bullshit. I had that bullshit.
They got me. I paid that off years ago, but they had me for a long time.
No, it was like a Visa and a Victoria's Secret card. What cards you slap down now on the table? My mileage plus Visa.
Yeah, I'm trying to get points and shit for travel. He's so bougie.
He is. He's got a lot of points.
He is. He's going to give nobody his points.
I'm trying to increase my credit portfolio. If I want a day and she pull out the mileage plus visa, I too am going to say, my, my, my, my.
That's the great shit. My, my, my, my.
What bank? Yo, put that. Chase.
That's tier one. Okay.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Okay, man. No, it's not.
It is not what he's saying at all. He is shaming me.
He's credit shaming me right now. Yeah, you got it wrong.
Okay? Is everybody in this room's credit score? Yeah. Yeah.
Now? We didn't assume you had it. My shit is good now, nigga.
Watch your fucking mouth. What's good?

What's good? What's a good number?

590. Nah, nah, nah.

It's like 580, right?

A sneeze away from 700.

A sneeze. I'm being honest.

That's respectable. Decent.

It's decent. But good is mid-7s.

Oh, shit.

Ayo, listen.

Iced tea. You get your cards with iced tea.
Ayo, shit. Hey, yo, listen.
Ice tea. You get your cards from ice tea.
I'm going to bring you some lies. Hey, yo, Mark.
Be mindful. I want no smoke.
I want no smoke. Withdrawing around here.
I want no problems. Yes, I can.
Yes. But I can get a lot of cards, man.
Yeah, I know you can. Plus, you get money, so you don't need the cards in the same way.
Sounds like a lot of things are cash. Actually, you just did get a card, so your credit might be good.
But now, if you run it today, they're going to see a lot. You got a 480.
They can get you a car. You're coming off that lot with a card.
I know, yeah. What I've been saying, 27% right.
You got a real nice crib. You got a real nice car.
What I've been saying lately. You get a real nice crib now? I'm saying I believe him because I see how he's moving out here.
I think if they try to run it again. I don't got a CPN.
I'm about to get one. If they try to run it like now, it's going to be a little stretch.
I'm saying that's what he's saying. I don't agree with that.
They're going to look and say, eh. Where your shit at, nigga? Is it close to an eight? Oh, I don't know.
All right. So before you talk to anybody else, check yours and then come and credit shame us.
And be like, yo, you got anybody else? Where your shit at? You can sign with this. You got a lot of buildings and shit.
Where your shit at, nigga? A little co-signer? Ish shit is stellar, I guarantee you. I will put my money at Ish.
This shit is not, let me see. One of the highest credit scores.
He about to pull it up for me. I don't believe him.
I think it could have been, but he procrastinated. Let's go Ish.
Nah, nah. Ish shit.
You going to pull up your credit score? Hurry up, nigga. Wait, where are you going? Experian? Nah, Ish is 640.
Who what? 640. I'll tell you.
650 tops. Keep going.
That's what I got for you. Nah, Ish about an eight.
Yeah, I was going to say. I feel like he might have 780.
You think Ish is at eight? I got him at 750. Ish ain't moving nobody IUD around.
Mom, where is your dad? No. You got an eight something credit score, mom? Ish never did that.
Look at that. You ever move somebody IUD around? Shit's hurt.
So you did it before? You did. Hey, you know what I can do? I can show you how to put the IUD in.
Hold on. This is how you do it, you freak-ass boy.
I do have a music question for y'all. Rihanna recently was talking about that she's working on her album, and she's been working on her album for the last half many years, and Anti is the only album that she can listen to of hers straight through without skips.
With no shame. Yeah, with no shame.
So I wanted to ask y'all, if Rihanna drops tomorrow, what do y'all think the first week looks like? Insane. Insane.
Oh, homie. Eight.
Yeah. Damn.
Single? Big single? Let's give her a single

She gotta have a single

Yeah

Oh she's dropping a single

Wait wait wait

What single

Like is it a

Eight and a half

A bop

It's a Rihanna single

Rihanna

Rihanna might do it

Yeah Rihanna might do it

Do what

I think Rihanna with a blind drop

Gets you seven

With no

Rihanna might get you

Rihanna might get you

Views numbers

I don't remember

What views numbers

1.2

Thank you. seven with no promo no single.
Rihanna might get you views numbers.

I don't remember

what views

numbers.

1.2?

Views did

one point

something week

one and I

came in and

shitted on it?

Let me double

check.

I don't want to

misspeak.

Yeah.

I think Rihanna

did a million

somewhere.

So you have

Rihanna doing

eight.

You said six

ish.

Maybe more. Six, seven.
Views did One million forty thousand God damn First week Had Hotline Bling And Control One Dance One Dance One Dance Yeah That cheesecake line Bothered me That's the line That bothered me I like your style The cheesecake line Cause Drake was not At Cheesecake Factory he loved to go there though bitch he loved to go there that's just like on the new album what are you talking about he had to make the girl the girl had to move out of mom's crib Ish Ish credit Ish Ish Ish credit Ish credit is it's cool it's cool it's not it's you yeah he tucked it he tucked it this thing is cool. It's cool.
It's not. You.
He tucked it. He tucked it.
This nigga's an idiot. It was close to what Mark said.
Ish credit is cool. What Mark said? $7.50.
That's great. I'm going to show you higher than that.
A little higher. That's awesome.
That's awesome credit score. I know, but it's just.
You can do anything with that. But it's just.
It's not for Ish, though. You'll go to eight.
Why are you looking so stupid in the face? Because you got a 750. I don't have a 750.
You got 750. It's all right.
Yo, this nigga flip. You can't put your phone out of our flip.
Yeah, this nigga's a monster. I'm just saying.
Can you three participate in my Rihanna question? I said, I said. Oh, yeah.
I'm with Parks, like around 800. She might hit a mil.
She would be close. A mil is tough.
If that single goes, she would be close. I agree.
You come to Mermaids with me. I agree.
We get knocked out together. They ain't gonna knock me out.
You agree? No. I do.
I think Rihanna would hit closer to what views it hit.

If the first single really goes,

I think her fans have just been starving so long for new music

that they just...

Without a single, I got to add 500.

I don't put it as high, Joe.

More.

I just think people are starving in here.

That's no doubt.

That's not to doubt.

Her ability,

I guess I'm just putting a cap on music fans.

So you think that Kendrick could do, for GNX, they're what?

319.

And that's a surprise drop.

No single, no nothing.

Not just that, Kendrick don't transcend all audiences like Rihanna does.

And I think Rihanna's more widely spread amongst age demographics as well. So not just social, you know what I'm saying, but age as well.
I think she definitely can double what he did. I'm not mad at it.
I'm not mad at five to six. I'm not ready to jump and say seven, eight.
That's why I said that first single is a bang. She also she also said that she was like do not expect this to be a commercial record this is not gonna be traditional like what you come to yeah but I think everybody say that to get expectations over here but even I also don't expect Rihanna to put music out I don't give a fuck what she's saying yeah I don't think there's no music coming out there ain't no music coming out like Rihanna's so she's a B diverse in can do musically, bro.
It don't even gotta be a commercial shit. But I am at a B.
She's at a B, yeah. A B.
Fuck. What B? Billion.
Billion. A couple.
Two B. Oh, pardon.
She's two Bs. Fuck music.
I had another question I wanted to ask y'all. B she worried about his babies.
Facts. Just in me attempting to profile y'all.

In your miniseries or movie that you're watching,

would you prefer to see the villain

and see him operate as a villain

or have to guess who the villain is?

Guess.

I love the guess.

I like to watch.

Because now I want to be right. I want to be right.
Because I like to guess, but what's the shit that we liked with the nigga in Europe popping niggas? Ashley and I. Oh.
The dude in Europe that was popping. Jackal? Jackal.
Yeah. I like that we knew it was, I was rooting, we was rooting for that nigga.
Most villains don't pull it off in that manner that make you kind of empathize with them a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if they could do it and pull it off like that, you'll root for the villain. I like a likable villain.
I like Penguin. Me too.
I like to watch how their mind work. Yeah.
You put me on to that shit. Penguin.
I like Penguin. Penguin had us rooting for him a little bit.
But most times I like the suspense or the not knowing I think makes a good series where it's not predictable. And you give me a good finale where, oh, shit.
Oh, shit. I never would have guessed it was this motherfucker right here.
Because somebody said, and this is not even a spoiler alert because it's somebody's opinion, they said that they think the son killed the father. I can see that.
I can see that. That's where they're leading us to think.
They said they think the son killed him. Y'all can watch the last episode.
Oh, yeah. And and we are not about the spoiler I'm not saying nothing about it we paradised out the fans are revolting against us they said not one more word of fucking paradise so cool I don't think they like it as much as we do though that show is fine because every other series we've talked about they've been cool with it but No, they get mad about the spoilers always.
Not the spoilers, the show itself. We talk too much about a show for the audience to be so large.
Everybody didn't see the show. Like some of the shows are still niche.
And us up here, some of us are TV people. So we catching it early.
Some. 3 a.m.
1, 2, 3, 4. Y'all are different, bro.
No, they more different than I am. Don't put me with that.
No, you with them. I don't count.
You and Parks are with them. As a TV person.
Y'all went through that shit the other day. This is when I knew I was a mutt.
Y'all went through that shit the other day, HBO versus Apple. Yeah.
I was just like, oh, yeah, that's fire. Oh, yeah, that's fire, too.
Oh, yeah. I'm like, I never heard of that shit.
I used to Parks over here. That's one.
That's a big show. I was like, yo, man.
Four, five years old. So you didn't know you was a mutt when your girl told you you can't watch that on the living room TV because she was watching something? No, I'm serious.
No, that wasn't really inkling that I was a mutt. Oh, that was sweet.
That was cute. Blow it away.
It was an eyelash. Oh, okay.
It was three million people wanted it. No, I didn't know I was.
What's wrong with you? I just want y'all to always be aware of how many people are. But my man had some on his face, so I was doing him a service.
Like, I do the same thing for you. I love that you did that.
The five-minute bit to carry afterwards. Hey, I'll blow it.
Niggas watching. We back.
We back now. Look nasty like a dick.
Take it out. Nope.
Nah. Nah, that's all right.
No, we good. All right, fine.
I'm trying to clear this up, nigga. I look like a dick.
That's why they rooting for me to go to Mermaids. They rooting for me.
I wanted to ask y'all something else. Well, do you have anything y'all want to ask me? What's your stance on that? On what? The villain.
The villain versus? Yeah. As much as I love to guess, I don't think anything beats a charming villain.
Exactly. Do you have a favorite villain? Like in recent history? No, I love TV.
I love TV too much. I don't have a favorite.
Me and my girl fought recently because she said night agent wasn't night agent-y enough for her. And I was like, well, what do you mean? Season two? Yeah.
I was like, well, what do you mean? And she said, I can hear y'all. There's three million people people she said when he went up on the trolley in the air with homeboy the villain dude uh and the villain dude got him to be down with the plan she said that he should have tore some shit up I said well the villain dude put him up in the air on the trolley to where you can't do nothing and she said all right what about when it when it got down? I said, it's niggas down there with hammers, this whole place surrounded, they're on a dock.
I thought that was a smart villain move. Do y'all remember the scene I'm talking about? I didn't.
It's not even that important. I just finished watching Zero Day.
Zero Day on Netflix. It's a quick six episodes.
Robert De Niro and Angela Bassett. It's amazing.
I'm in. I didn't see it.
I didn't even hear about it. It is good.
There wasn't a lot of promo on it. It's a good show.
I won't spoil it because it's new. Go ahead and watch it.
Don't worry. You got to watch The Baldwins? I don't know what that is.
It's a reality series. The series gives us unfiltered access into the highs and lows of one of the world's most famous

and infamous families.

Is it Alec Baldwin?

Yeah, Alec Baldwin and his wife.

And his wife and his kids.

And his wife, Hilario.

They try to do some little PR shit.

Smart.

Yeah.

They got a whole series.

I'm not watching the back.

Yeah, I couldn't watch that.

What you were saying about Zero Day?

It's just good.

How do you rank it in comparison to Paradise? Because I heard they're similar in plot a little bit. I don't think they're similar at all.
Like outside of there being a president. Okay.
Zero Day is about domestic terrorism and a cyber hack. MCIH.
Oh, that's my kind of shit. Yeah, I heard it's dope.
Got me. And how you deal with that type of cyber attack.
Gotcha. I don't get that from Paradise.
That's like some 24 shit. It's a little different, but there is a president involved.
What else, what else, what else, what else did I have for y'all? Do y'all see the people are mad at Lizzo about losing weight? Yes. I don't understand that one.
She looks great too. I get it.
I understand it. I get it completely.
I understand it too. If the whole thing was body positivity and body image and all of this that you flaunted in our face for years, now you go and lose the weight.
She went to go get healthy. What the fuck is the problem? I was about to say that.
She went to get healthy, so we found it on somebody. She might have did that based on health reasons.
Yeah. I'm just saying, I understand the people being upset with that.
I don't. I get it.
My unpopular opinion is, this is the problem. I support body positivity.
I don't think we should body shame people. However, I think we enter the moment where we just pretend being really, really overweight is healthy.
And part of why people are mad at Lizzo to me is because Lizzo is part of the people saying not just that you should be positive with this, but this is OK. There's nothing wrong with being an extra 100 pounds.
This is healthy, healthy, healthy. And then when you lose 100 pounds and you're like, oh, it's because, you know, I'm trying to live better and be healthy.
It's like, what the fuck? That's what they were telling you. Right.
Right. I just don't like that.
And again, like, I get it. I respect people's bodies.
People should show up in the bodies they want But I hate when people Pretend that it's not okay Man they told us We was wrong When she showed up At that Laker game And people had something To say about it We was wrong about that Oh what she was wearing Yeah When everybody said We don't want to see that Like you shouldn't be Dressed like that Lizzo But I don't want to see it Not because she's fat I don't want to see A skinny person do that Oh I do Well then that's That I can see as a problem I ain't going to like that, Lizzo. But I don't want to see it, not because she's fat.
I don't want to see a skinny person do that.

Oh, I do.

Well, then that I can see is a problem.

You can't say the bigger you are, you got a dress code at the game.

You shouldn't say that.

Yo, you good, boy.

Ain't you?

I'm being honest.

Whether I find it attractive or not, ain't the point.

I'm not telling somebody, you can wear that.

You can wear that.

No, no, chill.

Wear them sweats.

I'm just saying, I don't want to see it.

Yeah, but they shouldn't be shaming her for that.

She does look good.

Shout out to Lizzo.

She looks really nice.

Yeah, she looks really nice.

Shout out to Lizzo.

Congratulations.

Hopefully you continue on your journey.

That's fine.

I thought body shame was fine.

They put a halt to it for a little while there.

Let's fine. I thought body shame was fine.
They put a halt to it for a little while there. Listen, if the world wants one less accountability system, then fine.
Yo, what do you think? Yo, you're a monster. I mean, it was an accountability system.
Go to school, put your body in the old type of way Go ahead I like seeing you like this Like what?

Oh shit

In your sit the fuck down outfit

Say more words

How is this a sit the fuck down?

I'm not going to objectify you

Last few pods you showed up here

Looking like a little hot tamale

And you took a little trip

For the movie promo stuff that you was doing

And now you're back. Let me see your shirt.
I like your shirt. What does your shirt say, man? I love it.
You got the fresh back from a flight mustache. Leave alone.
I am not responsible for what my face... You can tell when somebody just was doing too much.
Like when you've been in the game for a long time, you can look at somebody and tell, all right, they had an active week and now they're sitting the fuck down. So those are my more words.
Okay. There you go.
All right. Am I off? Am I there? Yeah.
Wildly. Wildly off.
Wildly off. So you're not sitting down.
We lit still. This outfit's a little comfy.
I did land very, very late last night. So yes, I was not coming in fishnets in a dress.
Absolutely not. However, we did have celebrations.
All right. I'm not objectifying you.
No. This morning I was almost late to work because Trippie Fontaine decided to get on YouTube and tell his side of the story.
Don't call him Trippie, please. What's his name? Unless you know him personally to call him Trippie.
Oh, shit. That's your nickname? Tripp.
That's crazy. That was wild.
She tried with my man in groups. You tried to be down with that nigga? Do you know him? Yes, she does.
You know Trip, Q-Tip. Leonardo DiCaprio.
Snoop. You will not sit the fuck.
Just sit down. I mean, you know.
She no seal. I might have some 25 years in the business.
She no seal too. Oh, if I really felt like coming up off the stories that I have.
Okay, anyways. So, Tripp Fontaine.
Trippie Fontaine. You don't change nothing.
Now I'm going to do it more because I know you, man. Trip Fontaine got on YouTube and decided to tell his side of the story.
Trip Fontaine is a podcaster, and he was on Tonight's Conversation. Y'all know we've been trying to follow why Tonight's Conversation broke up.
He's been silent. He's one of the stars, so I did want to hear from him, and I'll play it.
One of my lives, man. It's my fault for giving you something that somebody else leaked because niggas were screen recording.
Now, this is like a 25-minute piece. I'm just trying to play a little bit, so you get it.
You get it. We got three superstars on the team.
That's Kida, Randy, and I'll say by the time we hit the road, by the time I even really got there, it was probably like Kida, Randy, and probably Ace for real. Like probably Kida, Randy, Ace.
It was probably the ones that everybody, and Richie, everybody came to see.

So you got like your big three, kind of like your four,

this your cap, it's your salary cap.

There's no big company in Milwaukee to sponsor the team.

Like you, you know, you kind of reaching

to get the sponsors and shit like that.

It's your salary cap.

Then you got me who come out of nowhere,

who was really brought in to be the sixth man.

Cause I started out on this was this my bag, regardless of what we talking about. Then I blow up on a rookie contract, which ain't no problem while I'm on that rookie contract.
My 30 points a game, the greatest shit that ever happened to the team while I'm on my rookie contract. You had like a Jeremy Lin, remember when Jeremy Lin was super hot? Except this wasn't no fluke.
So when it come down to rotation, the more minutes you give me, the higher my averages become. Granted, I'm sharing a rock.
This means certain people got to fall out the rotation. This means that certain people not getting touches the way that they used to.
This means that certain people not getting plays designed for them the way that they used to. And it also means that the money won't get tighter when these renegotiations come around.
Now if my 30 points a game proves to be efficient and you only got to give me 25 minutes to get there, I don't if you're gonna get them in his back mm-hmm and I don't know if you're gonna get the money you asking for either he might prove to be a little bit more valuable in the next few seasons much more youthful mm-hmm people don't know who he is yet much more marketable because people don't know who he is yet. Much more marketable because people don't know who he is yet.

We can mold him to our program.

So there was an opportunity in your mind if you were approached with like,

hey, we're going to make you the franchise player.

They didn't plan on me being a franchise player.

But if they would have came to you, said,

then yeah, probably. Hey, we're going to maybe put this person on the bench, restructure this, and lean into what we see as the data shows.
Yeah, it might have worked out. But they were trying to.
Maybe. But I do think things happen as they're supposed supposed to I'll give you the cliff notes

he went on to say

in the same

very same interview

that they went on

a historic run

they went on

a three year run

of touring

selling out venues

of 4,000 seats

wow

killed it

they did it

I'm saying

yeah 4,000 seats

he said there were

other stars of the show

but he came

he put on

he was happy

with his contract

at the end of the contract

he asked for more

they didn't give it to him

they wouldn't budge

wow

All right. he said there were other stars of the show but he came, he put on he was happy with his contract at the end of the contract he asked for more they didn't give it to him, they wouldn't budge that's the long and short of it he said any other problems that he might have had on the show he dealt with in person but him, he said the only problem the only problem with him the only time he was vocal about a problem that he didn't handle in person with somebody was him and other cast members coming together feeling like, okay, if we come together, maybe we can all get paid.
And he said that didn't happen. What is everyone's take on that here? Ali Doff, I don't really have a take about it because he left.
Yeah, you know my take. He left.
So if you ask for something and if you ask for what you want and you don't get it and you feel like you can go out in the field and get it, then by all means, chuck the deuces and go handle your hand. And I think that could be done amicably amongst adults.
Like, I think if we don't agree, especially if the agreement is only based on money. Like, if it's only based on money, right? I don't use the word only, but I get it.
No, like, if we just can't. Money's a lot.
That's a big one. No, but I'm saying, if we don't have any other issues, you get what I'm saying? The only issue is we can't agree on the compensation piece, then I think that could be done amicably and it's no harm, no foul.
You see what I'm saying? I could see you in the street. What up, my nigga? How you think moving? He didn't come off as salty or upset or any of that.
He the one that didn't really. Oh, you know him too? He ain't come out for a while and say nothing.
This has been going on for months and months and months. You know him nah I mean he cool with me but we ain't people you know what I'm saying but he handled he handled it like yeah you're a lot so you you second run up nigga everybody go to itch to have that ability has to feel good I know you don't want to play modest but the ability to just just attract others.
The ability, not attract like a, just to make people come into, you know, want to come into your environment or your orbit. I think the kids call that Riz.
Yeah. Ooh.
You around some young nigga? Yeah, she went to Atlanta and learned the word. You got the Riz.
People fuck with you. I know.
I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
But I think that's your game. I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of yours, and they really a fan of yours. I'm not a fan of everybody.
So I think that. Not a fan.
But I think that's your game. I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of yours, and they're really a fan of yours. I'm not a fan of everybody.
So I think that... Not a fan of mine.
Like, I saw... I'm a fan of yours.
I went to tonight's conversations, and I think, like he's saying, the numbers spoke for themselves with regards to his value to the show. So if they couldn't agree on the numbers, they couldn't agree on the numbers.
Because a lot of times, even let's take us. I don't know what this show generates.
And I think a lot of times people... Yeah, of course.
That makes sense. I think that a lot of times people overestimate what a show might be generating.
And they, you know what I'm saying? So you come to a thing. Like if I came in here and said, yo, I want 200 grand a month and the show only generates 250 a month, it's like issue out your mind.
It's something that's impossible to do because I may not know what the show generates and I might be overinflating it. You get what I'm saying? Do you agree with the part that, because we had a conversation like that, you and I, as far as like it has to be a collective in order to get what we want.
Do you agree with him when he stated that him and the cast members should work in unison in order to I don't think, and what do they call it? And a coup? A coup. I just haven't seen that work.
Well, that's not really a coup. That's asking for favorite nations.
In this clip. It's a semi-coup.
I didn't play the rest, but he said me and the other cast members got together and felt that that might be the best way for all of us to get paid.

Oh, that.

That's in a coup.

Oh, not that.

Well, but that arrangement within like a business situation would be called asking for favored nations.

See, what happens is even in that situation or in those circumstances. I mean alleviates A lot of problems I disagree Favored nations basically means We all get paid the same amount We agree that this is our cap This is what we're all going to get So that nobody's backbiting and fighting over Who gets more That's not what they did No I know that's what I'm saying favored nations is And that's what he's saying I was trying to get the cast together No, that's not what they did.
No, I know. That's what I'm saying Favorite Nations is.
And that's what he's saying. He's just like, I was trying to get the cast together.
No, that's not what he's saying. That's not what he's saying.
That's not what he's saying. He's not saying anything about Favorite Nations.
He's saying, so let's just say, me, you, and Flip, we want to come to Joe and say, yo, we want more bread. Yes.
You make $2,000. Flip makes $2,000.
I make $2,000. Okay.
I might think I'm valued at $10,000. You might think you valued at $5,000.
Flip might think you valued at 5. Flip might think you valued at 7.
Nah, 15. We all not coming together to ask for 10, 10, 10.
We just are asking for a raise collectively because we are the three cogs on the show that make the show go forward. So if we come and band together to say, yo, you can't lose all three of us, now we kind of putting the pressure on him like we got the leverage.
Is that considered a coup? Semi. Question for you.
How successful do you think that tonight's conversation is going to be without Tripp? I think what happened, I think this is what I think they did. I think that Because from what I understand it was solely just money.
He asked for a price and that's it. It didn't get reached.
So, I feel like a bitch-ass nigga talking about these niggas' businesses, but what I think is, I think they'll still persevere. I think that what they did was highlighted Tripp so much that he almost became the face of the show.
You know what I'm saying? For good reason, because he was killing shit. I think so.
I think they gave him the leverage. He was killing shit on the show.
Killing shit. So I think they gave him the leverage, and I think he used the leverage to negotiate with, and I think they might have did it mistakenly from a business perspective.
It's like if every clip up here highlights ice. Every single clip is highlighting ice, or 80% of the clips is highlighting ice.
Now ice has leverage. And I think from a business perspective,

you don't ever want to give somebody that much leverage

because it leaves you vulnerable.

I don't look at it like that, but I understand what you're saying.

It does. It leaves you vulnerable.

I ain't commenting, I'm not going to comment too much

on them because from, to my

understanding, they were

a touring outfit. And they was killing shit.

So if you're

a touring outfit, okay,

so now I have to account for, if our

business is the road,

Thank you. a touring outfit.
And they was killing shit. So if you're a touring outfit, okay, so now I have to account for, if our business is the road, then I have to account for being on the road.
Yeah. But they also have a podcast.
So when I went to see them, I saw them at the Javits. They packed that shit, back-to-back events.
They packed that shit. Like, it was packed.
You know what I'm saying? And then they did the Javits three days in a row. I don't know if I could pay one person, especially the one person, if it's an ensemble cast.
And like you just said, I was on a rookie contract. Stay here.
And even if you could pay the one person, now y'all try to get... Is that a bad precedent? No, it don't.
Y'all try to get together as a collective to press me for money. So now, I can, we afford to pay him, but now I can't pay the other two or three motherfuckers that all want substantial increases in salary.
I can't do that. So had y'all not got together and tried to press me like this, I could have paid you in confidence or in secret.
Now I can't pay the other two or three. That's part of my problem with the cool shit.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I said it was a semi.
Because they wasn't necessarily trying to overthrow dude. They were just trying to come up and use their collective leverage to say, yo, you can't lose all three of us.
You can't afford to lose all three of us at the same time. And in this outfit, in a touring outfit, maybe you can't, right? Like, I don't know that they're touring anymore.
Also, I put a lot of stock in the eye that recognized Trip Fontaine was a star. I don't know.
Because that person has that eye. I don't know if they knew that.
I'm going to assume they did. I think they might have picked...
I can't say yes or not. He says he came in as sixth man.
So I don't think that they really had the understanding that he was going to blow up the way that he did. Yeah.
Yeah, he, yeah. I think they might have picked...
I can't say yes or no. He says he came in as sixth man.
I don't think that they really had the understanding that he was going to blow up the way that he did. Yeah.
I think his perspective is so unique. I think his perspective was unique enough to where the shit he started saying just started resonating with the people.
And it resonated with both men and women. Oh, that's...
Yeah, and I have you under contract and and you killing shit off the bench. Mm-hmm.
So it makes sense for me to highlight you. Of course.
Yeah. All right.
No, who said... That's not what you said.
But then it also makes sense for them to... That's not what you said.
You said that the person had an eye that he was a star. You might not have thought he was a star.
You might have thought, I'm going to pick him up as a serviceable player that could play three or four different positions. And now when that nigga getting in, he getting buckets.
You didn't know that this... Jordan Poole's in the G League.
I still think there's something to be said for identifying star talent in real time. I'm not disappointed.
But I'm saying, maybe the person didn't know when he first got there. Once he started cooking, it's still a talent to say, hey, give him the ball.
Feed him. Feed that person.
So I put stock in that person. If it's your job to put a show together, it's your job to put a show together.
And that's what he just said too. He attested to that in the clip that you just played.
But if what I'm hearing about what he might have wanted as one person. It was a lot.
And then you gotta assume this person is talking to the rest of the people. That's a lot of money.
No, it is. And again, now somebody has to take a short.
Now my whole touring outfit is asking for just out of world numbers and you can't maintain a show that way. I can't run a business that way.
You can't run a business that way because now Imani got a two percent double his salary now Mel want more money. She might not want double but she want more money.
And a billboard. Fast ass.
Now Flip want more money. Now I want more money.
Now Ice want more money. Now everybody want more money.
What you just did to the bottom line of that particular company is made us be in a negative if I grant everybody's wishes. Exactly.
We are no longer profitable. Exactly.
And now me as the owner of this said company, my nigga, I'm the one taking the risk up here. So I should get some money, especially a lion's share of the money because I'm the one up here taking the risk and footing the bill for everything.
That's a fact. You can't do that.
Well, we have a down move. I'm not mad He left when his stock was high.
And it was. So now I would like to see him perform outside of that construct.
Because that's where you show up. That's it.
That's it. Right there.
Again, if any of y'all tonight's conversation people want to come up here and spill tea. They do.
Trip is a little too mature. They want to come up here.
The floor is yours. Please, by all means, come up here.
I'm a fourger. But don't come up here talking to my coals.
Don't come up here talking to nobody gatefully employed by me. I mean, come up here, tell your little story and go.
Don't try to go start today's conversation with my niggas. Nope.
How long you known this guy? Because he just got kind of popping, right? Mm-hmm. How long you known him? Doesn't matter.
These are like really simple questions up here. Good stuff.
I don't really know. It's just, you know, you meet in passing kind of thing.
You talk a lot and just... Do you consider him like a friend or is it like a casual...
It's casual. Yeah.
You just gotta ask the right questions, man. I'm not doing this with Mel.
ISO on Mark for Joy Reid. Give it to me.
Man, I am outraged. I'm frustrated.
I'm angry. Joy and Reid, the host of the Readout at 7 p.m.
at MSNBC, was let go. They announced it this Sunday in The New York Times.
From what I understand, talking to her team, they found out in The New York Times. They didn't find out from it from the network.
They found this out. This is all part of a process.
Maybe two or three weeks ago, Rashida Jones stepped down as president of MSNBC. The other Rashida Jones and not Quincy Jones' daughter.
And she, when she stepped down, she was replaced by somebody who just overhauled the whole network. They said it was because of ratings that Joy Reid was let go.
I don't buy that fully, because nobody watches these cable news networks anyway. They all got shitty ratings.
But everybody with shitty ratings wasn't cut. And the people with the shittiest ratings weren't the ones at the front of the line getting cut when you look at the image on sunday it's it's joy and reed when you look on monday it's joy and reed it's jonathan k barter brother who had a sunday show it's uh i'm in moheldeen the egyptian guy uh katie fang katie fang i mean it looked like the rainbow coalition of people getting fired from msnbc that's and lester holtz and stepping down uh from from nbc nbc so it's just a lot of brown people a lot of black people and from MSNBC.
And Lester Holtz is stepping down from NBC. So it's just a lot of brown people, a lot of black people.
And from what I can see, it's people who didn't kiss the ring. Since Big T, as y'all say, came into office, he's been running up in these corporations and these media outlets telling people, if y'all want to play ball with us, you're going to do what I say.
It's not like eight years. Or else.
Or else. Or else.

It ain't like before when all the networks are like, we're going to be the loyal opposition.

We're going to challenge Trump.

We're going to beat Trump.

Now they want to be in bed with Trump.

And Trump is like, I don't like Joy Ann Reed.

He's been very explicit.

I don't like her.

And he's pointing at certain people.

There's also people who've been critical of certain things.

Those are also the people who are getting laid off and fired and let go.

And the new president of MSNBC. Rebecca something.
Cutler. I remember her name because she's the person who fired me from CNN.
Oh, fuck that, man. She gave me the call.
I'm not blaming her. I won't say she fired me.
She was the one who gave me the call. Got it.
I actually think it was above her, so I don't blame her for that. But what I am saying is that the business is the business is the business and it seems to me that msnbc is in a new zone all cable tv is in a new zone which is we're not in a diversity game anymore we're not in the both sides game anymore it's getting more and more right wing and i think it's a message for all those black people out there protesting please stop protesting to get people their jobs back one it doesn't work ain't nobody ever got their job back.
Two, create your own shit. It's time for us to have our own media outlets so that we don't always have to come hat in hand begging people for jobs and not being able to take the positions we want to take.
Joy was courageous. Joy took some positions.
I don't always agree with her, but she always took principled positions and she's not there. And she wasn't always, she was very critical of Trump, but she was also very critical of the Biden administration.
Exactly. Because she was very vocal about her opposition to the war in Gaza.
Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
And so was Ayman Mohaldean. And so was Mehdi Hassan who got fired a year ago.
You know, there's a pattern here. You know, if you go against the establishment on two or three major issues, you're not in here anymore.
And that's a problem. Let's get our own shit, though, so we're not always looking.
TV is dead anyway. But let's move away from it.
They run this shit like death row. They run the country like death row.
For real. My nigga, like, they have put pressure on all of the tech niggas.
All these niggas that got the zillions of dollars, they made them niggas kiss the ring. They run this shit like different.
Like, this shit is crazy. You know how in other countries you can't say, yo, fuck the president? They down there gonna be like, you said what? Yo, he's fired.
That's what it's starting to feel. And that's what America is.
America is we can say certain things. Like, other countries, you can't say, they said North Korea, dog, if your house catch on fire, you better run out the house with the picture of the president.
Before you save your dog, you have to come out the house with that picture of the president or you could go to jail for that. We, we not there.
Of course, that's an extreme. But we let, we going down the road of.
Autocracy. Yeah, it's just different, bro.
This shit is something we never seen in two months. Only been two months, a month and a half.
So anybody on TV that's going to speak out against anything MAGA, y'all days might be numbered. Your days is numbered.
Unless you're kissing the ring. Because there will be certain people who will be allowed to be critical because behind the scenes they're doing certain things.
So there's always a secret arrangement when it comes to cable news.

What do you think about Rachel Maddow

and the monologue

that's right out to her?

I mean,

that's how you show up

and that is how you're an ally

and that's how you use

your white privilege

the right way.

But that,

it gave me chills.

White people,

if you're trying to figure out

how to show up,

watch that video.

That's how you show up.

What's she saying?

I got you.

Oh.

Look at you, boy,

producing the show, huh?

Let me see.

Hold up.

Stupid-ass thumbs.

My thumbs is big as hell.

...our great colleagues and great at what they do.

No, no, no.

Hold on.

I have learned so much from her.

I have so much more to learn from her.

I do not want to lose her as a colleague.

I know she's swallowing number one.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

All right.

Here we go.

...is at 7 p.m. 7 p.m.
Eastern, where Joy Reid's show, The Readout, ended tonight. And Joy is not taking a different job in the network.
She is leaving the network altogether. And that is very, very, very hard to take.
I am 51 years old. I have been gainfully employed since I was 12.
And I have had so many different kinds of jobs, you wouldn't believe me if I told you. But in all of the jobs I have had, in all of the years I have been alive, there is no colleague for whom I have had more affection and more respect than Joy Reid.
I love everything about her. I have learned so much from her.
I have so much more to learn from her. I do not want to lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC.
And personally, I think it is a bad mistake to let her walk out the door. It is not my call, and I understand that, but that's what I think.
I will tell you, it is also unnerving to see that on a network where we've got two, them two non-white hosts in primetime both of our non-white hosts in primetime are losing their shows as is katie fang on the weekend and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces now that feels indefensible and i do not defend it no job. There's just one other piece of it that you should know.

Cook. From your side of the TV screen, you will mostly see changes in terms of who's in the anchor chair.
Here we go. And actually everybody who's going to be in anchor chairs from here on out are great colleagues and great at what they do.
And you are not going to be disappointed in who's on our air and what you're going to be seeing. But one thing you cannot necessarily see is that the people who get our shows on the air, they're really being put through the ringer.
Dozens of producers and staffers, including some who are among the most experienced and most talented and most specialist producers in the building, are facing being laid off. They're being invited to reapply for new jobs.
That has never happened at this scale in this way before when it comes to programming changes, presumably because it's not the right way to treat people and it's inefficient and it's unnecessary and it kind of drops the bottom out of whether or not people feel like this is a good place to work. And so we don't generally do it too real she kept it too real on air right to the people who are getting this very show on the air right now maybe they will all get new jobs here and i hope they do but in the meantime being put in this kind of limbo the anxiety and the discombobulation is off the charts at a time when this job already is extra stressful and difficult.
It is not news for me to tell you that the press and freedom of the press are under attack in a way that is really, it's a big deal for our country. It's very visceral for us here.
I know that the business of the press is not an easy thing, and I know that no job is forever. But I think I'm safe in saying for all of us anchors who you know through the TV, please know that what pains us the most is not what happens to us.
It is what happens to our coworkers on whom we depend and who you don't necessarily know, but we respect and love them and depend on them. And did I mention we respect them? She cooked that.
No, I love her. Yeah, yeah.
Word, word. She's one of them.
Yeah, she is. And has been one of them for some years.
No, she don't play with them. No, she's one of my favorite whites.
Yeah. Dog, she don't play.
Top tier white. Top tier white.
Real good white. Not like that, Ish.
That's not in this we talking about two different contexts. Nigga, no we not.
I love her, yo. She's amazing.
She absolutely smoked that. Yeah, she did.
I want to send a proper send off to another one of my favorite whites. I feel like basketball will never be the same.
Greg Popovich is being rumored that he will not return to the Spurs. Y'all know he was battling health complications.
I'm going to miss him. Me too.
And another great white in regards to the social shit off the court. Yeah, speaking of speaking of.
In a heartbeat, he'll speak up and start wowing. What you going to do, fire me? Right.
You know what I'm saying? So that's amazing. All right, I got a quick part of the show for y'all

from someone named Jeremiah.

What's that?

Jeremiah says, what up, gang?

I got a lighthearted question

because some of these niggas be depressing,

but I guess they are Joe fans,

so it's probably expected.

Way to go, buddy.

Throw a shot at you on the way out.

He continues.

So I was listening to Holiday Inn by Chingy

and realized, listen, I love that song it was good yeah and I had to compete with that motherfucker Trump times me still alright I was listening to Holiday Inn by Chingy and realized he is the worst friend to invite to the hotel party he said his homie called him up and had eight chicks in the hotel and all chingy had to do was bring some liquor this motherfucker brings a 12 pack of corona one beer for everybody i don't know how we've gone this long and nobody has pointed that out my question is have any of y'all been in a situation where everything was set, the girls were there and down, but one of the homies fucks up the situation? Flip kind of gives me the guy that jokes too much and annoys the women by it. That was the end.
Oh, damn. You know, a lot of you get that mistaken.
And I can see why, but nah, not me. I mean, I'm the vibe.
They want to come because of Flip. You know what I'm saying? Talk that shit, Flip.
You know. Back in the days, I can see that.
Talk that shit, Flip. Get them good friends.
No, no, no, no. For real.
Back in the days, yeah, but I had some niggas around me that taught me the right way to do it. And I learned.
You got to navigate through these rooms full of vultures. There is nothing worse than someone showing up in charge of the alcohol and bringing only enough alcohol for them.
Yeah, trash. That is bottom-tier party etiquette.
And on top of that, you have to just navigate through these things, man. And the ladies love me, and they'll have fun, Joe.
Jeremiah, I wish I could speak to the topic, but any time a nigga was fucking up the kickback, I went upstairs. Hey, was there not another level that you could bring the bitches to? I went to the rooftop to get away from this corny-ass nigga.
The extra loud nigga, the nigga that's doing too much, the nigga that's just doing it. Yeah, the attention is on him.
Nah, nah, nah. Niggas don't.
Yeah, I got away from him. Nigga making him uncomfortable now.
The next party he's not invited to. Yeah, no, he done.
Never. He's dubbed.
Nah, you done. He can't come.
He ain't invited upstairs. Y'all stay down here and just make sure shit cool.
He might be invited to leave. Sometimes you're in a tricky situation because he may be the first one to hold you down and hold you down if something pop off.
But you can't be great and perfect in every area. Something pop off like how? I'm at the crib during the kickback.
Oh, you're talking about your crib. Something should be popping off sometimes.
Well, I was doing the kickbacks at the crib. I'm just saying.
The nigga that don't know when to leave. Oh, that's the worst.
Yo, you came. You shot the shot.
It missed. It's over.
She's tapping her home, girl. The nigga that can't handle his liquor.
I hate him. I don't mind him so much.
That was like Netflix before Netflix. Look at him.
Nah, that could go bad. Yeah, because some niggas get belligerent.
They can fuck the whole shit up.

Some niggas get belligerent.

Yeah, or violently ill.

A nigga can't handle their coke, right?

Oh.

I don't know.

I don't know.

What the fuck wrong with you, bro?

Please.

You know how many of these, they front on this pod.

You know how many niggas was at the kickback when Shorty went to the bathroom and came

back acting noticeably different?

Stop moving?

Niggas was at the kickback.

You know this?

Huh?

Stop moving too fast? Talking. Yeah, looking a little funny.
Who's the coolest one in here? Who would be the coolest one in here at the kickback? Me. Who's the second one? Me.
We know who the second one would be. Who? You know who.
Who you think? You can answer. Answer.
Fireman, nigga. Fire drill.
That's my man, fire drill. He be cool.
Oh, how you doing? I don't want him. Oh, girl, you can sit here.
Don't worry about that. You want my seat? No, I don't want Isha my kickback.
I don't. You don't think Isha be allowed to kick back? I don't want him in my kickback.
Why? Competition? No, you don't. What are you going to do? He's cool.
He's a conversationalist. He donationalist.
He want to sit there and just look cute and drink water in the corner. Nigga, get the fuck out.
Make a joke or something. Play a game.
Nah, I don't think so. Nah, Ish got in his bag when Taboo came out.
Other than that, get out of here, nigga, if you don't talk. Bye.
Ish come try to bag what he can and get out of here. No, nigga, move.
So Imani's going at a kickback, though. Conversationalist, making people feel comfortable.
Imani's pretty good at kickback. Okay.
He is. It's free.
He's quiet? I put Imani second just because he just don't talk. Really? I didn't know.
Are you like a quiet dude? He tell you all the time. I know.
He don't get me. Shot brother.
Look at him now. He quiet now.
I don't be quiet like that.

I don't holler.

Yeah, but hollering and making somebody feel comfortable

is two different things.

I can see him having a conversation and being friendly.

He's friendly to anybody I brought him around

or came around me.

I get it.

So he would be your W man?

Nah, nah, nah.

That's what you call it.

The kickback, if I had a kickback,

I think that I'd put all three of you on the same level.

Thank you. W-man? Nah, nah, nah.
The kickback, if I had a kickback, I think that I'd put all three of you on the same level. Free's good to kick back.
He gonna motherfucking get the hookah right. He gonna set us up.
Set the TV up. Set the TV up.
That's racist. Yeah, that's racist, yo.
Yo, watch your fucking mouth about Breeze.

Yo.

Are you crazy?

It's a compliment.

It wasn't a compliment.

It was a compliment.

Hey, yo, Breeze, don't change the channel.

That ain't no compliment.

You call that nigga tech support.

Hey, Booga.

Hey, Geek Squad.

Hey, Geek Squad.

Hey, Geek Squad.

That's funny, son.

But I like this question for everybody before we get to our sleepers. Mel, who are you at the kickback? Who am I at the kickback? Profile-wise, yeah.
I'm lit. I'm Martinelli Melly.
Can we have more words? You swear that Martinelli Melly shit. I'm lit.
I'm social butterfly. I'm walking around.
I'm talking to people. I'm drinking.
Yeah. If there's games, I'm down to play.
Do you think that it'll be borderline annoying or you know the line? I know the line. Okay.
What you saying? Are you down to meet somebody at the kickback or are you one of those, hey, I'm just here because I got the invite. I just look cute and have fun, but I'm trying to meet none of y'all at the kickback.
I pretty much talk to everybody. Unless you're fucking creepy, I talk to everybody.

I can see that.

So are you down to meet somebody at the kickback, I'm saying?

Yes.

Yeah.

Got it, got it, got it.

Mark, who are you at the kickback?

I'm laid back.

I'm a little quiet.

But chill, not like weirdo quiet.

Just quiet.

You know what I mean?

Harvard head-ass nigga.

No, not like that.

I didn't invite no Harvard.

Harvard niggas don't get to come back.

He the sneaky one.

I was about to say,

the problem is

That's the sneaky one.

Whatever you came with,

you might not leave with. He's standing by the...
Hey, hey. Hey, hey.
Hey, hey. We seen that happen before.
Freeze, he over there standing by the bookshelf. Welcome.
Yeah, I think you got him, Mark. You'll be cool.
This nigga's sneaky right here. Yeah, I'll be fine.
Sneaky niggas, yeah. I ain't sneaky.
I just, you know, you know your tricks. I can write the number down on a paper, slip it, shake their head down, sit their head, oh.
Keep that shit back in 92. I know you're tight, Mark.
Who are you at the kickback flip? And then we can get out of here. Same, I'm quiet a little bit.
Quiet, chill to myself.

And then, you know, when somebody talk to me,

I'll talk to them.

But you got to remember, when people look at me,

they already see me in one way.

As one way.

Now did this kick back?

They don't even know nothing about you.

Oh, yeah.

I'm still chill.

I mean, I'm going to say what up to everybody and chill

and go in my own world, probably chop it up with S and E,

make a couple of jokes. You see that? And just keep it moving.
Try to find a little corner and figure it out. Do you become the center of attention at the kickback? No.
No, no. So just here.
Yeah. I get paid to be the center of attention, nigga.
There you go. I get paid, nigga.
Watch your fucking mouth. Huh? Watch your mouth.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
That's why you ain't mermaid, nigga. Look, look, look.
You got mermaid? What that mean? You was to sit at attention, nigga. Nigga wrote, hey, yo, you just laughing.
Nigga Joe said he turned around and the call was so, hey. So, you exposed me, nigga? My God.
Joe is funny. Mark having too much fun about me getting to.
Yeah, he really is. Mark having to play a good old time.
All right, I don't have anything else that is near and dear to my heart that I need to share with an audience. What say you guys? No, we good now.
I'm straight. I feel like I asked y'all so many questions.
Do y'all have anything to ask me? Anything? Anything? Anything that y'all want to share with the audience?

Anything that's important?

Anything that we might be forgetting?

You stumbled on the way out?

On the way out of where?

Mermaids.

You heard?

I did.

They ain't get no details.

No.

My man good.

My man good.

He cool.

No, I didn't.

Did you think I did?

You ain't hit me.

You ain't hit me to check on me like freeze.

Yeah, why would I do that?

Freeze hit me the next day, 3 o'clock on a Sunday. Nigga, I ain't going to be ain't hit me to check on me Like freeze Yeah why would I do that Freeze hit me the next day Three o'clock on a Sunday Nigga I ain't gonna be dead In the hospital by then You woulda woke up And said nah I'm good Now your exit Your exit routine is lit though I watch your exit routine Like you do a trick Like You did a different one He try to go up that way He try to act Hey listen He try to act like he going up that way He do some ill shit He try to act like he going through that door and then get to the wall and walk back slowly and exit the other door you don't see him.
Where you going, nigga? Maybe on Patreon. I got a rant that's inside of me.
I got a rant. No, I got a rant.
You got to get it out, Joe. Get it out.
No, no. You got to get it out.
Dude. You got to take it to the bank, nigga.
I need that. I got to rent.
I need that 30 piece. On Patreon, though.
You're right. I need that 30.
It won't get us up. Yeah.
I'm not going on a rent. I'm not going on a rent.
Yo, yo, yo. Because.
Hey, Flip Fontaine. I'm not going on a rent.
That's for a 30 piece. Damn, Flippy.
We would like to know how he can get there yeah that's nice he tried to involve y'all y'all nigga I don't give a fuck I didn't involve y'all he said as a group I said actually ain't that right Joe keep it real you can shit on me I don't give a fuck about that I told y'all that strong in they feel. I told y'all that.
I said, actually, I ain't gonna lie. He brought everybody up.
Well, if we, I said, I looked at this nigga like, yeah, 16 hairs in that closet, whatever that shit parks got, that booth. I said, nigga, what? I tried to bring up that ensemble cast.
I don't give a fuck, nigga. This is what I want.
I was like, all right, damn, bullshit. All right, well.
All right, well. Say, we be forever.
Well, I mean, I ain't mad at you, but. Oh, shit.
That was funny. Looks like we've, uh, let me stop.
Oh, shit. End of the road.
Oh, my God. All right.
I got a sleeper. I got something they've been sleeping on.
Let's do it. I got something they've been sleeping on.
You said you're not going to go on a rant, but you started to say something. Good job, Ice.
I'm saving my rant, please, John. Are you going to save it now? Yeah, I'm putting my rant on.
But what's the rant about? Just so people can start to talk. It's about the internet people.
And my new thing, I can't respond to internet people. The 27 views people? The internet people.
No. The internet people just are internet people.
So you can't be like a real human in real life and just have all these responses to them. But just reading some of the shit.
Say it. A lot of it, when I went through the comments, a lot of it was inappropriate, especially for some of the people that are tangible and you could be familiar with.
I felt the same way. Same thing when Cam did that same shit to me.
It's like, nigga, you? People get... I agree with him on that.

People get besides themselves when it

comes to figures that they may look up to

dissing niggas that they may know.

And it's a blurred line to that.

Yeah, I want to go off real.

I want to go off. Even when I read that, I felt the same way.

I had so much to say to Drake.

I had to say it to 50 cents. Alright, internet.

Let's talk about a picture.

Okay, let's get to it. Let's now act like...
All right. You know.
All right, I got a sleeper from some little white boy. Let's see, his name is Greek.
I played him up here before. Did you? Did I get this song from you? It's possible.
You're my son. Do you remember? Oh, shit.
Oh. She's talking crazy.
I don't know what you did with her. She had her auntie back.
She's going actually crazy. Hey, Jun Jun.
Ever since a nigga chased you out of Mermaid, you're about to say, stop. Because you can't be...
No, but for real, I know you, Joe. I don't want to step on the joke.
Did I get it for you? Did I play something else? Yes. I played it back in January.
Okay, then I am going to... Yeah, really good song.
Yeah, it's fine. Really shout out to Alex, man.
Where these niggas begin to sleep it from. All right, so I'm going with Ombre, friend of the show.
And this record is called... Actually, no, I'm not.
No, I'm not. No, I'm not.
Hold up, hold up. It might have been one of mine.
Oh, shit. Why are y'all disrespecting me this way? All right.
I'm going with my girl Tempest.

Friend of the show.

And this record is called Stop Playing.

Stop playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah You settle for a bitch you don't like Cause you lost that bitch you love

Stop playing with me

Oh, stop playing with me

Yeah, you settle for a bitch you don't like

Cause you lost that bitch you love

Ooh, stop playing with me

Stop playing with me Talk a lot Yeah, you talk too much You act like it's been love Your actions are dumb They just don't add up Get around Yeah, who's climbing now? Conversations, time you're wasting When the day is over You gon' settle for a bitch you don't like Cause you lost that bitch you love Ooh, stop playing with me Stop playing with me Yeah, you settle for a bitch you don't like Cause you lost that bitch that you love Ooh, stop lying Ooh, stop lying We've been walking on a deep side, deep side Who's on your mind? Who's it gonna be that all of us is in me But it feels like What is this time Still no way to lose it Can't keep chasing the good lights You gon' settle for a bitch you don't like Cause you lost that bitch you love Stop playing with me Stop playing, stop playing, stop playing with me Yeah, you're selling for a bitch you don't like cause you lost that bitch that you love Stop playing with me Stop playing, stop playing, stop playing with me Stop playing at all Still got your way

Wish I was proud of you baby

Celebrate the place

Celebrate the place Who can't afford to be playing Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You know That is my girl Tempest.

And that record is called Stop Playing. Brand new old music.
That is my girl, Tempest.

And that record is called Stop Playing.

Brand new, old music.

Shout out to Tempest, friend of the show, man.

Hopefully she is doing well.

And that's what I got for y'all.

What's up?

All right, I'm going up to Buffalo with mine.

This is Benny the Butcher and Ill-Tone Beats,

36 ounces in a Mercedes Nigga, my life a movie Trust me, Martin Scorsese Couldn't write this shit I'm on an island trip watching Tyson clips I'm twice as rich so my diamond kit Do my guy with tricks This how being thorough look I'm so dope and got hooked That took advice from a crook But got my knowledge out of book I rented mansion in LA and tell her call up my friends It's fucked up our enemies last longer than friends And all I wanted was a Benz and a brick, uh 36 houses and a Mercedes Yeah, all we wanted was a Benz and a brick, uh 36 houses and a Mercedes Let's go Let's go I risk my freedom for that Benz and that brick 36 houses and a Mercedes All we wanted was a Benz and a brick 36 houses and a Mercedes Let's go I got thoughts in my brain Racin' both voices sayin' be patient We frontrunners, we crunch numbers just like we Asian Went from locked up in cages, now we popped up on stages Without no rock from no major, my name on top of your playlist Yeah it's talent but you gotta know what's hustle involved It's eat and get ate, being from the jungle and all Before I got this comfortable, I had to stumble and fall My neck worked a hundred for sure, I'm not as humble as y'all That's how they made me, yeah, 36 ounces and a Mercedes Nigga, my heart's still on Genesee and Bailey I'm writing shit about my life, you think it's only a song? Nigga, you crazy, cause it's back to playing corners if I get lazy Let's go, ah And all I wanted was a Benz and a brick 36 houses and a Mercedes All we wanted was a Benz and a brick 36 houses and a Mercedes I risked my freedom for that Benz and that brick 36 houses and a Mercedes All we wanted was a Benz and a brick Yeah, 36 houses and a Mercedes All we wanted was a Benz and a brick

36 houses and a Mercedes

Let's go Thank you. Can you sing? And that was 36 ounces in a Mercedes.
Benny the Butcher and Ill-Tone Beats.

He put a little, BSF put a little two-pack out.

Oh, okay.

Shot the whole BSF.

And then the other one is a Conway and Ill-Tone record.

Oh, okay.

I think there's an album coming from that too, if I'm not mistaken.

Nice.

I'm going to Philly.

This is RJ Payne and Eric Sermon.

Right cross.

Yeah.

You know what time it is, don't you? It's that three piece. Eric Sermon.
RJ Payne. Death Squad.
Beautiful Pain Entertainment. Tito on the boards.
Watch this. Look, get it straight.
I obliterate mics. My skill level, superb words words, imitate life The renegade type, I used to run the street Now my destination is underneath the center stage lights I was gutter made, dearly beloved, I dug your grave The heart of a king and I got the blood of a slave Spill my soul on a paper until I flooded the page Just for everybody that put in work and they wasn't paid Soon as I made a pivot, we made a blizzard EPMD, Eric and Payne, we making digits If I was gonna paint you a picture, I'd make it vivid This flick is one of my greatest and my latest exhibit Yeah, Picasso maybe, I'm not so crazy I'm old school, but I ain't never going rock old Navy The whole block obey me, I'm the truth If I shoot, ain't no way I'ma miss a shell Word of a rock old lady, it's pain Ayo, back up from the rope You haven't seen this dope since Pop Smoke Nope, Eric in pain hard to cope Cap's already scared and he ain't even spoke Y'all prepare for the worst Think Baghdad, bombs dropping everywhere, that's the hashtag Sure enough, that's me in the last drag Get the wrong idea and end up in the trash bag If I was you, I'd raise the flag White, cause any other color, goodnight And yeah, I'm about that action Eric, I'm him, y'all can read the caption This the wrong set, them dudes is actin' Just a bunch of extras, no attraction Ask them, that's a bunch of lame-ass niggas A bunch of no-name-ass niggas Yeah, I call them how I see them Are you entertained? With no Coliseum Yeah, this hip-hop thing is how I feed them Eric R.J.
Payne, it's kinda hard to beat them See, I be leaving earth when I start writing I got the freedom, lyrics I provide Come from inside of a mausoleum, how'd you be them? I couldn't pull her while I was driving the gym I've met her this morning, I'm hitting by 5 p.m. See, it's about to get lit, just a chapter to get rich And I ain't gotta talk slick and diss a rapper I told him, get off my dick, quick, you have to These bullets that I got in my clip could flip a trap The dope is in the pot, I've woken up the block The cocaine that went mainstream is floating up the dock I'm loading up the glock If you don't blow your weapon, gon' do a show in heaven Have you opened up a pock? I've been bagging up the work I had to go berserk I made so much racket Even John McEnroe was hurt Boy, you have to go research I'm rolling blunts up with 20s on a dump truck I'm just dragging over Durvish Bang! He went crazy RJ Payne, Eric Sermon, Ray Cross He went crazy Yeah, he went too crazy on there, boy Damn He went too crazy on Payne, Eric Sermon, Ray Cross.
He went crazy. Yeah, he went too crazy on there, boy.

Damn.

He went too crazy on there.

I'm going to Leia the Leo.

IFY. I've been on a road, been on a run Now I'm looking for someone to love me right And it's looking like I might have found someone to hold me when it gets cold I'm not even asking for forever Really, I'm just open to whatever Gets my mind off the right and the wrongs What do you know? I found you You I found you babe Tell me what's up, girl, to do I haven't thought it through yet I don't mean to play with your emotions If you're open, I can show you how it feels I'll let you come and say The confines of my mind Cause, baby, there's nothing to fear I know you're not a Get away from me.
What's the artist name again? What's the artist name? I like this hand.

Leah the Leox. She's a little girl down.
I found you Oh no, I found you Tell me what you wanna do We could try out something new, baby Tell me what you wanna do Got my hands all over you, baby I think we should see it through Think you got something to prove With the way you look right through me I think you should do me I can't find a million reasons not to stay Like I got work in the morning, I got some calls I'm ignoring To keep it real, I don't even know your name But we both know there's one reason I'm at your place So let's just live in the moment, we'll work it out in the morning All I can say is I found you You You I found you That's Leah the Leo, is that how we're pronouncing it? Leah. Leah the Leo.

Leah the Leo.

Have you ever met a, or even an unattractive vocalist?

Of course.

Who?

It's part of his whack-ass game to get the DMs lit.

Get his lit.

Bell?

Mine is by Ziya Bell.

It's called 1-800-HEARTBREAK.

Stupid, y'all.

It's so good.

Yo, we gotta get you a dude. Don't play with my heart, I need you to make a move Can't afford to put my heart on the line and be a love on you So what you gon' do? Oh, as I lay here dreaming in this bed of stars I pray I'll wake up right next to your heart What a rush you're giving sends me up to Mars I hope you come, I hope you got me, baby I hope you got me, babe I hope you're calm Am I, am I trippin'? Won't do much, I'm slippin', ooh, but this is different Gave myself a mission I'm tryna go missin' way with you and build shit On some real shit, I hope you feel this Call me back baby, I'm still here Call me back baby, I'm still here As I lay here dreaming in this bed of stars I pray I'll wake up right next to your heart When a rush you give it sends me home to Mars I hope you come I hope you come Call me, baby Why won't you call?

Call me, call me

1-800-H-R-A-K

1-800-H-R-A-K

Call me 1-800-H-R-A-K

1-800-H-R-A-K Call me 1-800-H 1-800 heartbreak Tell me 1-800 heartbreak 1-800 heartbreak Tell me 1-800 heartbreak 1-800 heartbreak That's Ziya Bell, 1-800-HEARTBREAK.

I ain't gonna lie, the longer male don't have a nigga,

she turned into like Sleeper Galactus.

It's tough to take her out, man. She's just home, digging internally,

watering plants, feeding the cat.

She's just home, picking out lonely slaps.

1-800-HEARTBREAK.

Go ahead, fellas.

Dial it up.

If you're listening out there,

dial that number.

Who's next?

Y'all pick.

You play, boy.

Go ahead.

You want to go last?

Nah, I go last.

Mine is from They.

They got a new album out

called Love Jones

and it's called Rotation.

Sorry.

This is from They.

They got a new R&B album out called Love Jones and this track is Rotation. Oh, she's dying on the pads.

No, it's your band! All night we be playing my song, playing my song Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Good head, knowledge Three cups, I'm vibing Sexually violent Sexually violent Hop on and ride it Come get this mileage Switch all I need, drive it Switch all I need, take charge Touching, caressing While I'm stripping you naked Tied both of your hands up Love watching you take it

I'm applying no pressure

Girl, you got me so anxious

Don't talk to me nasty

I'm not the one you should play with

Late nights, I'ma stand past it

Pulse up, make it go and smooth

Grit tight, I can barely move

Baby, you been on my mind

Late nights, so you know what I'm on

I'm not Cool up, I ain't gotta stay long All night, baby, playin' my song, playin' my song Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Can't slide up to the curb in a Bentley sedan Take your foot off D&D, I'ma call in advance And I know it's been a while, but I'm taking a chance Heard that nigga that you wouldn't go according to plan Girl, where you got me geek really turning me on? Yeah, I know you on bands, but I'm playing along Trying to see how it fits, how it feels, my palm Oh, while you touching, caressing While I'm stripping you naked Tied both of your hands up Love watching you take it I'm applying the pressure Girl, you got me so anxious Don't talk to me nasty I'm not the one you should play with Late nights, I'm step past this Pulse up, make it go and smooth Grip tight, I can barely move Baby, you been on my mind Late nights, so you know that I'm on Pull up, I ain't gotta stay long All night, we be playing my song Playing my song Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation Ooh That is they, rotation.

Big flip.

Yo, I'm going to Trinidad. Carnival is around the corner next week.
Are you going? Are you going? Yes. I'm going to play a record from Trinidad Killer featuring Nicki Minaj's remit of Eskimo.
Trini where? Trini, Trini, Trini where? Trini north, Trini up, I don't fight them down When he see me, he be getting so excited now Heard the killer want the queen, I should knight him now High life, good morning, we nice, you know this The vibe,, the feeling alive You know I'll tend the gun, miss the sun when it's snow And I can't fight the feeling, and I wish I could be there for you When you're out on the road, I write your name in the snow Now I'm missing the feeling, and I wish I could be there with you Now I'm feeling lonely Cause I miss all these and sunny parties Cause all I'm about is the memory Now I'm feeling lonely Only vibes, only fun in the party Pick up you and your friend, everybody She my inferior Motives ulterior These bitches bad but I am a bit scarier Eskimo coupe that's the white and white interior I'm in your area eating no cafeteria You let me let me here Rebel be cherry here Them trinity real nice, them manners really stare Bitches be talking bout they trinity be like trinity rare I is the only mother country here I know you wanna hit it, come sent you for a minute St. James, go to Spain if you really ready I'm gonna shoot better though, when you comin' back home Waist on skinny but that ass on fat so Big up the people who just fight for wear Don't day, don't day They keep the music play They keep the music with it Big up the people who just fight for wear And you know they got them love for you So keep the music with it.
There's a few people who just fight for it. And you know they got love for you.
So keep the music playing. Eskimo.
You know I don't take the call. I'm not feeling alone.
That's brand new music. It's brand new music.
Trinidad Killer. Hey, Trinidad Killer featuring Nicki Minaj.
Eskimo, the remix. Look, don't look at me.
Why are you looking at me? What you got to say? What happened? Nothing. I don't have nothing to say.
We support our brothers and sisters. Yeah, always.
Slim version of the check-in. Slim version, making sure he's safe.
Going to carnival. Yo, I'm headed to Trinidad next week here go Trinidad kill her alright nah you got it big dog this podcast is over but it would be unfair to our good sister Mel if we didn't at least allow her to make a trade.

You wasn't here.

Go ahead and make a trade.

No fucking way.

You gotta do it, man.

No, I do not.

No, please.

No, no. No one will take a person over here.

Huh?

Nobody will take a person.

It's funny.

Please participate.

Please trade us, man.

Please, man.

Anybody.

Seriously.

For real.

However you feel, no judgment.

I really can't say that I would trade anybody.

I'm sorry.

I just, I like everybody's personalities up here.

They're not different they are.

If we could trade Imani for Trip Fontaine, you wouldn't do it.

I thought this was main cast.

No, anybody.

You can't trade anybody. No, anybody.
You could get through anybody.

No.

Nope.

She took the freeze route.

She got out of there.

Mark, how about you?

I don't want to be unfair to you.

You can make a trade if you want.

Oh, no, I'm good.

I feel good.

I feel good.

Hey.

Aren't y'all mature?

We're going to package y'all two together.

Let's see what we can do.

M&M.

M&M.

M&M.

Let's see if we can get back for some M&M.

You think we can get 50?

For y'all too?

Yeah.

Well, we know we can get 50 and we can get rid of you.

As soon as you get on the elevator, you're going over the fire escape.

Oh, shit.

Listen, this weekend is March 1st. Yeah.
That's true. That's our gym reservation for the people that have forgotten.
I see you over there stretching your legs, doing all types of bullshit. Are you cool? If you there, I'm there.
I'm there. Say less.
Ish. I'll be there.
Flip. Can you give us a time And a location though It says 6 o'clock

I think it says 6pm right

Oh I didn't get that

But we didn't get the location though

We didn't get Deeps

I'll send an address

I'll send an address

To the group chat

And then send it to everybody

Who's not on the group chat

So there's no excuses

I'll send it to the group chat

And I'll send it to Ish

Saturday

6 o'clock

We lit

Mel you're more than welcome

Thank you

We lit

Yo real quick

By the way

We didn't say this

During the show

Yesterday Wu-Tang Clan

Announced their final. Thank you.
We lit.

Yo, real quick, by the way, we didn't say this during the show.

Yesterday, Wu-Tang Clan announced their final tour.

I'll go to that bus.

So just everybody grab tickets.

I just wanted people to support it.

That's all.

You know what I mean?

They'll be in Newark, so y'all can go to see it in the world's dirtiest city.

You can also catch it in Philly, New York, and every place else.

Yeah, that was New Jersey's dirtiest city in the world.

You know. You know Philly's dirtier than Newark, right? I don't know about that.
You out your mind. You know.
You know. Every time I go to Newark, I'll see it's dirt.
Projects and rats. Ain't no projects.
And ain't no rats. There's definitely some projects.
There's no projects in Newark. Where was I when I ran up in them projects by accident? When they chased you? Nah.
Quite the opposite. You chased them? Oh, you laid something down? What happened? Oh.
Doc, Doc, you laid something down? You wanted to feel the hood again, so you went in something. No, what happened was, no, I wasn't.
Why are you looking at me like we had this conversation? Because we did have this conversation. I asked you where I was.
I was in Maplewood and somebody stole my Benihana and these niggas started taking my shit. So I was like, ain't nobody in Maplewood stealing my Benihana.
So I started chasing these niggas. That's not no project.
Then I get in the car and keep chasing. Then I left Maplewood and ended up in another neighborhood and before I knew, I was in some high rise with a bunch of niggas like, who you here for? And I was like, you know what? I don't need the Benihana that bad.
I thought it was. Yeah, yeah.
You got a vibe. It was like Szechuan U.
So if you could look at the camera right now and give a word to the Maplewood niggas that what would you say? Maplewood. He got They let shit slide.
I was driving around for an hour. You sat on straight in Maplewood, right? He was acting like you was looking for him, but, you know.
Oh, no, I was looking. That nigga was a block away from Seton Hall.
That nigga was a block away from Seton Hall. You said that's what I'm talking about.
Borderline of South Orange. Nah.
What's Irvington Avenue? What is that? Maplewood, nigga. No, no, I was at it.'s the part, no, nigga, this is.
Is it Ivy Hill or some shit? It's Newark.

It's an Ivy Hill project.

It's Ivy Hill apartment building.

Maplewood turned into Newark right on that street, dog.

Go ahead, man.

Three million people, three million people.

Whatever, man, whatever.

Nigga didn't get his shit back.

I definitely didn't get my shit back.

Definitely a serial that night.

Man, he been back over there even since.

Really?

No.

They stole your Benihanas?

Yeah. Give me that, nigga.
I'm from Uber Eats, man. Give me that.
It stole your Benihanas? Yeah.

Give me that.

Give me that.

It's going to make

that nigga heart jump.

Listen, man,

hopefully y'all

have enjoyed this broadcast

as much as we have

enjoyed delivering it

to you.

Keep us in your prayers.

Lord knows we need

to be there.

Until the next time,

we bid you adieu.

Farewell.

Adios. Arrivederci.
Hasta la vista. Au revoir.
A knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you adieu.
Farewell. Adios.

Arrivederci.

Hasta la vista.

Au revoir.

A simple head nod will suffice.

Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.

So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Here you go.

Come on to me.

Let me put my hands around you.

Yes, sir.

Come on to me. And I'm also going to be here.
Hopefully everybody has a real productive week.

Anybody doing anything fly this week?

Anybody doing anything?

I'm just busting some niggas ass and bawl.

How about y'all?

Going to Orlando.

You know, getting to it.

Heading on down to Orlando for my niece's birthday party.

Oh, yeah, Orlando.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Orlando.

That's it.

I was going to go. I forgot about the gym.
I ain't missing the gym. All right, man.
Actually, I'm going to go. It's all right.
Because you know that I'll be here to keep you warm. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, man.

Let me do this the right way.

Let me do this the right way.

Get out of here.

The way we supposed to get out of here, man.

Oh, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

I don't know, you don't help with shit. I thought you had it.
Alright, here we go. I ain't even got it in my computer, but let me stream it up.
Ah, there we go. Yeah.
Come on, man. Let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here the right way, man. Rest in peace, Roberta Flack.
Rest in peace, the legend. 88 years old, man.
It's a nice life. It is.
It's a great life. That is a nice life.
Hey. There we go.
She gone, so I can't do the number of Roberta Flack talks. I used to have my dad.
It's over. Rest in peace for those talks.
Hey. Come on now.
70 and up. 70 and up out there.
Hey, 60 and up out there. Let's go.

Come on now. Mel, they're playing this in Canada? No.
Yes. Hey.
He's on their phone with Roberta Kamal All right All right She's a queen She's a legend After what you said? Yes She's still a legend Even more so now Even more so Today Here you go Hey Do Do Do. Boom, boom, boom.
Killing me softly with his song. Killing me softly with his song.
Telling my whole life with his words. Killing me softly with his song.
Bam, bam, bam, bam. That's not right.
With his arms

That's not right.

That's not right.

That's just a testament

to her greatness.

That's all?

What the?

This is disrespectful.

Not at all.

I don't think so.

I think that's a tribute.

We honor her.

Two times.

We honor her

and then we're getting out of here. Rest in peace, Al Troutwig.
Nick honor her. Two times.
We honor her and then we're getting out of here.

Rest in peace out, Trotwig.

Knicks legend.

Knicks announcer legend.

Also,

Lester Holt stepped down from

the news so he could focus full time on

Dateline. Shout out to Lester Holt.
Legend.

A lot of legends moving around.

Alright. A lot of legends moving around.
With his song. All right.