Episode 793 | "Kaputz"

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Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. What? Okay.
Right up on them, too. Right on Erie Erie Avenue.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Right there. Hey, right back here.
Is that where he's from? Hey, hey, we're on Erie Avenue. He got bigger problems than me.

Speaker 1 You said is that where he's from? Yeah. We went to the shades early.

Speaker 1 He's paying a new dollar case.

Speaker 1 You know, you got to put the people. He got a board mission.
He got to put back on the fly shit. That nigga's complimented.

Speaker 1 No, I just want to Michael Jackson joy. You see the vibe, did it? Hey, body is on.

Speaker 1 Nigga, like Michael, nigga from the Super Bowl. Hey.

Speaker 1 Are we on? We on. Hello.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Hello. Hello.

Speaker 1 G'day.

Speaker 1 You guys did a mic check? Pause? We did. In British.
Okay. In British? In British.
It's funny, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 How y'all feeling? Feeling good.

Speaker 1 Joe, you look very bundled up, man.

Speaker 1 It ain't that cold in here, my nigga. Everything's so dramatic with this little bro.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, talk

Speaker 1 that's nice

Speaker 1 cashmere that's why that's why he wore it scope map you play right into it that's why he wore

Speaker 1 we was ignoring him

Speaker 1 fuck that scarf

Speaker 1 or it's nine degrees outside and as one of the only smokers here that actually utilizes that without a jacket it probably would be nice to have at least a scope it's not nine degrees in here and you're not smoking right now so the scarf while bundled up sitting here your fucking neck about to be sweating.

Speaker 1 Well, why? You don't speak for my body. I don't speak for your body.

Speaker 1 I don't. No, no.
You ain't never cuddled with me. You be sweating neck all you want.
You never cuddled with me. No, sir, no, sir.
I kept on doing a lot. You know what I'm saying? Walking here.

Speaker 1 You know how fast I perspire. I don't want to know.
That's good for you. Good one for you.
Yeah, on my body. Fuck you, nigga.

Speaker 1 How you doing?

Speaker 1 I hate that scarf. I'm like, oh, oh, you feel me? Why? Why? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 He's like a fucking, like a.

Speaker 1 It's sitting in the house. It's not.
It's fly outside.

Speaker 1 I want my neck to be worn paws. Like, why do I even got it? This ain't even something I want to speak to my niggas about.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? The way you got it on, nigga, like you in the Sahara Desert, nigga, take that shit off. Yeah, it's you got it on up here, block, like on some fashion shit.

Speaker 1 Like, you always doing some fashion shit. I wasn't trying to make it fashion statement.
So put it on record. I tie it like how mom used to tie it.
It's an infamous

Speaker 1 He got the fly shit with the red. He dude with the hat.

Speaker 1 It's right under his chin, covering his head. He's mad, dirty.

Speaker 1 It's covering right under his lid. Like, we know that's that trick, nigga.
We saw that.

Speaker 1 I don't want no smoke. What's your body? Take it off.
I don't want no smoke.

Speaker 1 At some point during this show, my scarf will come off. Mine.

Speaker 1 Good. The reveal.
Life off the screen.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 you and Trey plan on wearing the same hat like that, or is that just some fly shit? That's my son.

Speaker 1 We speak to each other.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get you a number, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, both. I got you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And I would appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Don't give me nothing from Burlington, nigga.

Speaker 1 Same as that hat, bro. You was in Burlington for a long time that night when you went over there.
I was. You was getting your shit off in the Alpha Teams.
I was getting my shit off.

Speaker 1 I was looking for a pair of jeans and I don't technically go on the squat.

Speaker 1 Walking in slow motion. You got a slice.

Speaker 1 I might have went through the whole McDonald's drive-through. Shane smoked.
He was in there for a while that night.

Speaker 1 Got that fly academics gear from 2003? Yeah, you bugger. I got some shit.
But it's cool. You got some Pepe's?

Speaker 1 Jabo.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, yo. Good to see all y'all.
Yeah, good to be seeing you. What's poppin'? Ain't you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a problem. What's your problem with it? What's wrong with him? You know, Ish.
Ish is my problem.

Speaker 1 Ish's birthday was last week. Uh-huh.
And

Speaker 1 as his friend, new friend, you know what I mean? Because he had a lot of man, so I don't know what category I fit in. You not man's yet? The lowest tier.

Speaker 1 Let me help you.

Speaker 1 It's the lowest possible

Speaker 1 man.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to get in the building. Yeah, dude.
You're leaving me. Yeah, no, for real.
But Ish's birthday was last week.

Speaker 1 What I was fucked up is I knew that, and I didn't say happy birthday to him, so I guess I'm fouled. Fox.
I know. That's white people's shit.
You gotta go care about,

Speaker 1 that put us a slave happy bro

Speaker 1 happy belated man happy belated man thank god you ain't let somebody take in charge of the cake you know what i'm saying niggas would have been out 1500.

Speaker 1 we gotta get a building cake for this construction work i have a theme in mind

Speaker 1 at some point y'all have to get y'all closure for this cake without her participation

Speaker 1 Because she's never gonna stop. How can you do that? She's never.
But Joe, there's a way to get that. We can't do that.

Speaker 1 We can't help her participation and sending the bread back. No,

Speaker 1 I'll be closer.

Speaker 1 You can get closure without the other person. Beat her back?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Unless we charge you. Your mail, we doing such and such.
We need you.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Work it out.

Speaker 1 Scale back. I still got his request.

Speaker 1 No, it timed out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it expired. Like, yo, she ain't responding to it.

Speaker 2 Well, I feel like this weekend might have made up for that a little bit.

Speaker 1 Careful what you asked for. Hey, I ain't waiting.
Hey, we good. Oh, yeah, good.

Speaker 1 What the hell happened this weekend? Oh, we went out to Disney on Ice. I bought the whole fan.
How did y'all, why were you at Disney on Ice?

Speaker 2 I had a box at Barclays.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 What type of question is that to even ask a married woman in 2025, though?

Speaker 1 Why were you at

Speaker 1 why were you there?

Speaker 2 I think the insinuation is that I have no children, so why would I be at Disney on Ice?

Speaker 1 Oh my God. That's even worse.
The insinuation was,

Speaker 1 I do have children, and I wanted to invite. Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah. And she had four tickets left.
But that sounds a lot different. And why were you

Speaker 1 there?

Speaker 1 Blame my head and I fired. I thought he invited her, and it was more like, why would you invite her and not the person with

Speaker 1 all your hate? No, it's all hate. This is all hate.
But it was your body. Nope.
Listen. I wouldn't listen.
Listen.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to listen.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to hold you.

Speaker 1 Auntie Mel. Listen.
Auntie. Auntie Mel how you doing? Mark, please blame my head and not my heart because honestly,

Speaker 2 I invited this one.

Speaker 1 He didn't come. Blame my head.
Wow. She threw that off.
Wait, you said honestly?

Speaker 1 She went to the black church. Honestly.
Wait, hold on. Wait, she turns Canadian when she's on the spot.
Honestly, listen.

Speaker 1 Mark forgives you. Okay.
It's fine. So you invited everybody but Mark? Because I got to marry.

Speaker 1 No, that's not.

Speaker 1 That's not it.

Speaker 1 That's not it.

Speaker 1 I can just take it. Listen, Jason, Disney on Ice.
I'm skating right by them.

Speaker 1 Skating right by you.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 But I will have another opportunity

Speaker 1 in the news. Oh, yeah.
We cut that. Oh, she'll catch you on the catch you on the makeup.

Speaker 1 Cut that because I, you know. It's the Jameson bit.
Yeah, yeah, I got that. Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 And when he comes up

Speaker 1 here, he just gets mad. I watch old Marbo shit.
I even watch the night school shit. And like, secretly, he don't talk like this.

Speaker 1 He gets a lot of shit off. It's like he's finally free up here.
That shit sounds crazy. People are like, yo, you know, I was watching the news and I feel like

Speaker 1 you see my books in the back of the chair.

Speaker 1 Nigga drink his juice like this with his pinky.

Speaker 1 I'm here. Look how you hold this cup.
Look at how you sit. This shit crazy, son.

Speaker 1 The real bar. Look at the real bar.
No, it's duality.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Shout out to that one.
Thank you. Cold Switcher.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Cold Switcher? I thought Cold Switcher was like an insult, man. No, it's the other way around.
You cold switch. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the next time you have tickets or an opportunity for Disney, let me know. But what made it so good?

Speaker 2 I had stuff for the adults as well as the kids.

Speaker 1 So Auntie Male Don't Play. You said that.
Your kids sat up front, enjoyed the show. She had everything for them, and then adults was having a lot of them.
The alcohol in the party back here. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Wow. You had the mushrooms? Somebody did tell me you was event planning now.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't say that I was event planning.

Speaker 1 She went for what's that company?

Speaker 1 Passpace. Hold on.
I've got to be

Speaker 1 Why y'all are you? Look, I ain't got to side.

Speaker 1 We're not doing that.

Speaker 1 She ain't got a side kick going. But it did say you're good at it, though.
The old side. Like, say, hear that.
Nah, that shit was. That shit was fucked.
Oh, shit. She fucking got hosted money fights.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 yo, I got a box. Come through.

Speaker 1 I got an issue to come to. That's a

Speaker 1 First and last invite.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't get an invite. I was just teasing Mark.
He did.

Speaker 1 I did that. Yes, you did.
What invite I got? Hey, officially, you got one.

Speaker 2 I was literally sitting here last week and invited you.

Speaker 1 Oh. Wait, you was inviting niggas while I was here?

Speaker 1 No, Friday. Oh, I was about to say.

Speaker 1 Yo, they off. She invited me on air too.
Oh, you can come.

Speaker 1 Everybody's off a little bit.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was the. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll stand down. I'll promo it.

Speaker 1 This girl.

Speaker 1 Oh, you had to promo. Mel, what you said.
What?

Speaker 1 Show button podcast.

Speaker 1 Got box 12.

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Speaker 1 Everybody, Spirit World, our heritage.

Speaker 1 Essence. Fucking do it.
Lifetime. Stay far.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 That was a good finale. Holy shit.
Shout out to you, man. Ish, you should have told us it was your fucking birthday.
I'm mad about that.

Speaker 1 I really feel like that.

Speaker 1 That's odd.

Speaker 1 That's odd.

Speaker 1 It ain't.

Speaker 1 It is odd. Only because people said, hey, man, what's going on with you? What you got going on this week? Nothing.
Nothing. Working.
Nothing. Working.

Speaker 1 That would have been the perfect time to say, I ain't doing too much, man. It's my birthday on such and such a day.
What they got to do with the question?

Speaker 1 Thank you, sir. Well,

Speaker 1 give me the name of the self-righteous black person from back in the days. Like, you know, you got Thurgood, Marshall, W.E.B., Du Bois.
Give me one of them niggas. Why?

Speaker 1 Because he reminded me of one of them niggas, but I'm not a hitting the woman.

Speaker 1 Can you talk about that? But he like on some stand-up shit. Yeah, he like the dropout author or some shit.

Speaker 1 He like, bro, fuck. At the end of the day, people love you.
And that is. Thank you.
That is wrong, though. Like, there is ethics and friendship.

Speaker 1 That's wrong. I'm with Flip.
There is, bro. Yo, my birthday is coming up.
Yeah, you something. You off.

Speaker 2 You don't have to sit. You didn't want to be celebrated? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Niggas love you, bro. I wanted to celebrate you.
Yeah. Me too.

Speaker 2 So since it was Thursday, we would have done something on Friday.

Speaker 1 Cupcakes. You're like a good reason for you.

Speaker 1 Cupcakes for a cupcake. Right.

Speaker 1 Muffin for a muffin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Niggas is different, bro.

Speaker 1 If you pull that shit next year for 50, we're going to jump you. Oh, no, no, we're on his ass.
You can't do that, ish. Oh, we all go.

Speaker 1 We're all going to Portugal.

Speaker 1 We out. Group trip.

Speaker 1 Load up the chat.

Speaker 1 Portugal, it is.

Speaker 1 Well, happy belated birthday, bro. Thank you, bro.

Speaker 1 Belated. 50 years old, man.
Cool. 49, I mean.

Speaker 1 Which they're going to round up.

Speaker 1 All the time. They're going to round up.
It's her 50th year or something. Yes.
50th year. Yeah, you just got to finally finally finish.
She's got to finally make you 50 years. Learn.

Speaker 1 You got to make me 50. It's cool.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Damn, you old as hell up here now.
How old are you? 44.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. Yeah, it sounds different now.

Speaker 1 It sounds a little different than 49. And by the grace of God,

Speaker 1 I hope to get there. Well, you look good for 49, 50-ish.
You do somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 Complimenting you, my nigga, dad. 49, 50-ish.
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it. I want to go.
You're right there. You're right there.
You might as well just say that.

Speaker 1 You can still get it. You look good for your age.
Oh, shit. I didn't even know.
That's how it used to shake the room back in the day.

Speaker 1 I used to love being there for that moment. Guess how old I am?

Speaker 1 You, nigga.

Speaker 1 I was right there. Yeah, you got your eyes, too.
That's right. A little cow.

Speaker 1 Bitches, yo, the whole room. You used to steal the bitches bitches with that one.

Speaker 1 You the best, yo. I'm 43.
Yo, you the best.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Yo, bitch had that light skin shit on life. You'll never guess on.
Come on. You know you're not.
You can't. You can't tell me my.
You can't. You can't tell me my eyes.
You can't. You can't.

Speaker 1 No, watch. All right.
Go. You're the best.

Speaker 1 Go. Go.
Go.

Speaker 1 No, you can't.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Best potter in the world. No,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 I used to get tight at that shit sometimes, nigga. All right, nigga.
I used to snitch early. He owns out.

Speaker 1 How many times do you think this little trick is going to fly in?

Speaker 1 He's mad. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, my lord. Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh shit.

Speaker 1 Give it some old school shit.

Speaker 1 Happy belated birthday to my man.

Speaker 1 What y'all thought?

Speaker 1 Hey. I got your love.

Speaker 1 49 and up, 49 and up to the dance floor.

Speaker 1 Drinks a little cheaper for y'all today.

Speaker 1 My love.

Speaker 1 You'll never need another.

Speaker 1 49 and up, 49 and up. You get discounts of movie?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's your bathroom next to the men's and women's.

Speaker 1 The one with the racks and the handles. by the toilet.

Speaker 1 Don't you know

Speaker 1 that I love

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 so.

Speaker 1 Alright, wherever you might be listening from, man.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, heavy B, let's go then.

Speaker 1 Really, really wanna know you.

Speaker 1 I got a funny feeling, honey, that you kinda diggin'. Dropped it, wherever you might be listening from.
All wait for the names, always.

Speaker 1 Because your girls told me. I let me down from around jersey to the field that was poppin'.
Stop all day and stay out of your way. Vigoring, I

Speaker 1 Philly's finest, you and your band, bro.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody snuggling out there.

Speaker 1 Everybody playing footage out there.

Speaker 1 All the happy couples out there, all the miserable ones, too.

Speaker 1 You said the Philly's finest?

Speaker 1 Exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Alright, how's everybody doing, man? How y'all doing? Y'all good? Y'all good? Y'all good?

Speaker 1 Alright, y'all looking good. You're smelling good.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I don't know what to be here.

Speaker 1 But who could have a better

Speaker 1 love?

Speaker 1 Niggas shit like soap.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 White.

Speaker 1 Wild.

Speaker 1 I wasn't gonna do that, I was just gonna start the bar, but I ain't gonna disrespect Mars. Thank you.

Speaker 1 This song is another one of those that triggered me and bring back fucking bad memories.

Speaker 1 I think I might wipe her.

Speaker 1 I could wear suit, white nightcup. My niggas like her.
She been walking through the ride.

Speaker 1 Plus, she cooked up a middle. Had to hook up for real.
That's when girl records was poppin'. These niggas don't even make girl records no more.

Speaker 1 That's baby dollar for. Shit, the rest of you childish bras.
Give me the sex, then I'm tired of y'all. So find an ex to provide for y'all.
Yo, yo, this nigga getting on so much cap in this shit.

Speaker 1 Yo, all these girls do is give me the sex, and then I'll be sick of them, babe. Like, that ain't gonna fly.

Speaker 1 Got my baby girl, plus she about to drop my baby girl.

Speaker 1 girl. Can't nothing fuck up that.

Speaker 1 Let my man rap this shit off real quick.

Speaker 1 My baby girl,

Speaker 1 don't stop giving me your love and hot turn.

Speaker 1 Gossip going crazy, and not anything about you.

Speaker 1 See, that's the problem, man. I could tell when I'm around niggas that didn't rush to the dance floor.
I ain't see none of these niggas on the dance floor. I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's some talks, some talks we can't have, because when the DJ throw the shit on you.

Speaker 1 You niggas didn't rush to the dance floor, man. Hit your bottom.

Speaker 1 It's cool, man.

Speaker 1 I did it enough for everybody, man. Shout out to speed.

Speaker 1 Speed birth the bot.

Speaker 1 It's all right, man.

Speaker 1 No, you did a little stepping e-troi or some shit.

Speaker 1 I ain't see you on the dance floor in cheetah, though. None of that.

Speaker 1 Pink elephant, maybe. You look like a pink elephant kind of guy.

Speaker 1 Nah. We was in pink elephant.
Shut up. Stop front.
Bottles started taking over by that time.

Speaker 1 You were still there? I know, but niggas wasn't two-stepping. Bottles made niggas forget the two-steps.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're gonna bring money into it somehow. I'm lying.
Nope. No, you're not really lying.
Bottles made niggas forget the two-steps. Bottles and sections.

Speaker 1 The bottles was the section. Yeah, facts.
You know what I mean? Girls ain't like them niggas in the middle of the dance wall sweaty no more.

Speaker 1 Some of your liquor. That's why you couldn't hit the bop in your section.
I did.

Speaker 1 There's only so much bop in your face. You got to cool your section, yeah.
You know what I mean? You got to be cool on the couch.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Just move your shoulders in the middle. Man, it's minimum.
Minimum movement. Minimum movement.
Minimum movement. Minimum bop.
No, no sweating.

Speaker 1 None of that. Yeah, you can't go crazy in the section.
There you go. You're going to look nuts.
Well, where's the section at? It didn't matter. It ain't matter.
Cheetah's nigga had a section.

Speaker 1 I wasn't in no section back then. I mean, nigga, I was walking around.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I was in the back. Play the bar.
I mean. Upstairs somewhere.

Speaker 2 He was in the section, is what he's trying to say, but not say it.

Speaker 1 I didn't see him. He's trying to stutter you.
I know. He said you were in Jim Pop.

Speaker 1 I was looking around, though. You were dusty.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 What he was trying to say. Double hot top.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's what he was saying. Right.
That's what he was in.

Speaker 1 Little $175 bottles of great goose back there. I was in chaos, too.

Speaker 1 Really? On the top level?

Speaker 1 Stuttered on you again.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, shit, it was a top level?

Speaker 1 No, it was definitely a top level.

Speaker 1 a little home.

Speaker 1 Sorry. You was in home.

Speaker 1 I was in all of them. You was?

Speaker 1 I remember you in the 12th. I was in absolutely all of them.
I remember. You was in Griffins? Is the point, man.
Yo. Come on up.

Speaker 1 That's new. Tell me.
Yeah, that's a little late. That's it.
That's later on. Muffle Palmer.
It's a decade or two later. One up, you know, all that's.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I'm just trying to keep up with you old niggas. I mean, Lotus and all of that, man.
Come on. It's a little lightweight.

Speaker 1 All right, we reminiscent of it. What episode is this? 793.
Butter. You oldest.
Shut the fuck out of here. And you were there, too.
About one getting in that in there. I was in butter.

Speaker 1 A body wasn't getting in that butter, though.

Speaker 1 Thanks.

Speaker 1 Y'all are hoes.

Speaker 1 For y'all.

Speaker 1 Y'all just been outside tenured. You school.

Speaker 1 I was outside learning and

Speaker 1 learning. And working.

Speaker 1 It was a learning on the job situation for you, huh? Got you. What episode is this? 793.

Speaker 1 Welcome to episode 793 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by Few Buy, Power Buy, Prize, Picks, Prize, Pix, Gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, and highly favored, fully dressed host, Joe Button, here with a few really amazing people to my right. Big Mel Ford is in the building.
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Speaker 1 Trey is over here. You, I love you.

Speaker 1 Fucking, who's back there? Erickson is here. Ian is here.
Keep is here. Tanner and Savona are here by remote.
And last, but certainly not least. Each and every one of you guys are out there.

Speaker 1 Tanner, I'm so sorry. The longest.
What happened? Detroit. The Giants awesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's like God, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got their asses handed to him. Did they get their asses handed to him? It was a good game until it wasn't.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that first half was amazing, but you could feel the pull away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw the chance until. Nah, it was just the turnovers.
I looked up and said,

Speaker 1 you let them score 21 points in the first quarter. It's not

Speaker 1 championship

Speaker 1 football. I knew they was determined because them niggas was going forward on fourth downs like nothing.
They was like, yo, we not leaving nothing on the board. That's kind of the new thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. I'm just

Speaker 1 teams. We're not starting with

Speaker 1 it. Right this second.
But Tan, our heart goes out to you and all the Lions fans out there.

Speaker 1 All right, what's up? Come on, let's get right to it. I feel like that was the longest intro in the world.

Speaker 1 All right, great. We've had longer.
Great, great, great, great. All right, come on.
We got a new president. Come on.

Speaker 1 Look, Mark came in hot, wrote it on the board.

Speaker 1 That's all he wrote, too. Yeah, that's all he wrote.
Inauguration, Nellie Ross Snoop. Look, sat down.
That's two more than 90% of this room for the record.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just talking about the vigor in which you. Yes.
Yeah. I write the shit that I think we might not, you you know what I mean, focus on today.

Speaker 1 I want to make sure we focused on it because we got a new president. It's been a crazy week.
It's been a crazy week.

Speaker 1 I was frustrated with the weekend, but yesterday Donald Trump became president again.

Speaker 1 He was 45. Now he's 47.

Speaker 1 And he also had a real big day. He signed a bunch of stuff, signed a bunch of executive orders,

Speaker 1 changed some laws, did some new shit.

Speaker 1 It was just a wild day. And I think Cats is getting ready for the next four years.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Y'all excited?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's business as usual.

Speaker 1 I know the rich people are excited.

Speaker 1 I feel like you're holding back on that. Yeah, like, I'm trying not to say too much.

Speaker 1 I got thoughts, but... Yeah, bro.
I'm just saying, man. It's like leading the way.
None of us, we're not thought leaders. This is your film.
Like, we don't have any thoughts about it.

Speaker 2 Did you watch the entire thing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I watched it. He was there.
Y'all watch that shit? Mark was there. Yes, they watch it.
Y'all really watch it.

Speaker 1 No. I only watched this.
I hate Trump, but here's ratings. Nah, he was worried.

Speaker 1 I I read the transcripts back. I was tied up, but I thought it was exactly what you think it would be.

Speaker 1 Donald Trump came into office doing exactly what he said he was going to do, and he signed executive orders to change laws or to change the reality on the ground, just like he said he was.

Speaker 1 So he comes out swinging in his speech. You had Elon Musk doing what looked like a Hitler salute to me, but you know.

Speaker 2 No, that's what it was. Yeah, this is what it looked like to me.

Speaker 1 He said he was throwing. I'm not going to do it.
Nope, fuck that. He said he was throwing his heart out to people, but it did not.
He was the worst way possible if that's what he was doing.

Speaker 1 That was crazy. He was giving

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 He did. He made a noise.
Yeah, he made a noise. I mean this shit.
Yeah. His face changed.
He was dead ass. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt at first.
But why?

Speaker 1 Because I was like, who would be dumb enough to do a Nazi salute on day one? Hold on a second. Dumb enough.

Speaker 1 Then I watched him get done. Yeah.
Yeah, he could do whatever the fuck he want. And Trump has basically made him

Speaker 1 more important than the vice president.

Speaker 1 And that's really, that's really a shame. But he signed laws to get us out of the climate deal, meaning we're not going to be dealing with environmental environmental justice anymore.

Speaker 1 He took us out of the World Health Organization, which takes us in a lot of weird ways. He declared genders, male and woman, male, female, there's only two or sexes.

Speaker 1 He said that there, he got rid of, he made DEI basically illegal. He put

Speaker 1 the death penalty back on the table for federal crimes. I mean, he just did a lot of the stuff that he's been talking about.

Speaker 1 He called for an emergency at the border, meaning you can get arrested again. He got rid of

Speaker 1 what do you call it, catch and release. So now

Speaker 1 people who come across the border can be held, they can be detained, they can be separated from their families. I mean, he did like 50 things.

Speaker 2 He also pardoned everybody from January 6th.

Speaker 1 All the rioters, yep. Everybody.
Every single one of them. Every single one of them.
And so, and Joe Biden stepped in and was trying to preemptively do some stuff. So like he pardoned Fauci.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Fauci wasn't even charged with nothing.

Speaker 2 Well, he was, yeah, preemptive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, preemptive. His whole family.
He didn't go after them.

Speaker 1 Pardon his whole family. His whole family, the January 6th Commission.
So it's just been a lot of moves in the last 24 hours. And I want people who said, look, I don't want Kamala fine.

Speaker 1 I'm past that, right? Whatever you think, whatever you do, you do.

Speaker 1 But the pressure has to still be applied. Even if you think Trump was better than Kamala, you still got to apply pressure to Trump because if you don't watch him, the next four years are going to be.

Speaker 1 If you don't watch any politician, if you don't watch any president, you're going to have problems. We got to pay attention to what's going on.

Speaker 1 So everybody, don't wait to the next presidential election. Pay attention now.
Pay attention to everything that's happening because there's a lot of situations. Well, he said this was the last one.

Speaker 1 There'll be no more elections. That's true.

Speaker 1 He's the last one. Yo, it's wild.
It's wild. How are you guys feeling? Are y'all sad now? Why are y'all all quiet and mute in the face? I think all them niggas is crooks.

Speaker 1 And I think that, again, I've said up here a million times, we can't really count on any politicians to save us. You got to save yourself.
You got to do what's best for you and your family.

Speaker 1 Taking the information, I think now more than ever, we need to start reading and

Speaker 1 taking heed to some of the laws that are being passed and how they affect us and how we can move around.

Speaker 1 But they all ain't shit. Like, I don't like the pardons that Biden did.
I don't like the pardons that Trump did. I think it's just, again, two different wings on the same bird.

Speaker 1 They might have different lobbyists and different agendas, but I think they all for sale.

Speaker 1 Like, California's on fire right now, and you got a president that's saying, drill, baby, drill. Like, there's no relationship between fossil fuels and what's happening.

Speaker 2 And also removing us from the climate deal. That's

Speaker 2 not acknowledging that climate change is directly, indirectly related to what's happening in California. But he hates California anyways.
He's like, y'all didn't vote for me? Fuck you.

Speaker 2 Burned to the ground. Exactly.

Speaker 2 He's expressed conditional relief being sent to them. And I don't know what the condition is, but the fact that there's a condition.
He's petty.

Speaker 1 Pettiest. He might be the pettiest president we've ever seen.
He might be the pettiest person we've ever seen in public office.

Speaker 1 Just crazy. Bad time for it, but I've been laughing at Gulf of america still for the

Speaker 1 it may be a bad time to say it but

Speaker 1 then he put in a a different name an official name i forgot the name of it i find it but it ain't golf of america some other shit he changed it to but that shit is funny like i think that giving somebody like him power

Speaker 1 it's scary and then your man elon who seemingly don't give a fuck and i feel like i could do and say whatever i want to do and say because i'm rich is just a compounded thing And racist.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They don't even pretend not to be. Yeah, like that.
Nowadays, like the rich people just be like, so? Right. What you gonna do? So? Right.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. So.

Speaker 1 I watched it. What should we do as black people?

Speaker 2 Well, I feel like black people's protest really was to not tune in because it was held on MLK Day, which was

Speaker 1 which sucks.

Speaker 1 That sort of pastor from Detroit? Oh, yeah. Lorenzo Seawell.
That handkerchief head, man. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 You know, kind of... I was laughing at him.
Me too.

Speaker 1 He was quoting some of Dr. King's.
He gave the whole speech. Yeah, and then he was doing a lot of theatrics, and Trump was right there smiling and just laughing at him.
That's how I felt. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just.

Speaker 1 Did you read the faces of everybody behind him? Say it again. Did you read the faces of all the people behind him? I did.
I did read the face. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a telltale.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trump was smiling. Elon was just chucking and javing it.
Yeah. Hamboling it.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just the next four years is about to be crazy. And I feel like I agree with you, Ish.
If you don't get your shit in order, man, you're in for a long ride and a long day.

Speaker 1 I just tell everybody.

Speaker 1 I do have a question for you, Mark. The executive order that he signed pertaining to the genders,

Speaker 1 how does that translate to the society? What happens now?

Speaker 2 Basically, he rolled back all LGBTQ rights.

Speaker 1 federal level yeah okay because if somebody's gender non-conforming or if someone or someone is trans they can say that if your bio if your biology determines your your gender if your sex determines your gender then it makes it harder to do uh make certain lawsuits it makes it harder to have certain policies they're going to lose that fight long term there's a couple fights that there's a couple things trump did that aren't going to work But sometimes Trump does stuff not because it's going to work, but because it makes his base excited.

Speaker 1 True. Got it.
So he could sign a bill tomorrow, like slavery's back in effect. It ain't going to work, but a whole bunch of people are going to be hype.
And for him, that's worth it. Got you.

Speaker 1 Like this shit with the 14th Amendment, I don't think it's gonna stick, but exactly, birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship shit,

Speaker 1 which basically states that the mother and father could be illegals, but if your kids are born here, then they are

Speaker 1 American citizens. He denounced that shit and signed a bill banning it, but I don't think it'll ever stick.
But he tried it. Because they're going to fight all of your workers are going to fight that.

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Say a Nara, part of it.

Speaker 1 Because if we didn't do the fly, just that. Because he did say

Speaker 1 mass deportation. It's us.

Speaker 1 Jersey. What's your block?

Speaker 1 Mass deportation is going.

Speaker 1 That ass.

Speaker 1 It said Houston, fucking Chicago, ish hood. Senior ish.
Ishood. It said ish hood.
No, the crazy shit is that he picked certain countries. Right.
Like, that's the funny shit.

Speaker 1 Like, and that's the racial piece. So fuck the Russians that come here illegally.
Fuck the the Serbians, fuck the Albanians, fuck all of the

Speaker 1 Eastern European countries that come here and do mad crime and mad criminal shit. You only focused on the blacks and the South Americans.
And that'd be the gangster shit.

Speaker 1 When people be talking about immigration, I'd be like, yo, suck my dick. Because y'all only talking about brown people and black people.
Y'all not talking about immigration.

Speaker 1 He did the same thing to the refugees. He's not worried about refugees from Norway.
Yeah. You don't care about the white refugees.
He's talking about Arabs. Yeah.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So. He's moving.
So so based on that how

Speaker 1 does somebody like snoop

Speaker 1 and i'm i'm pulling out snoop in particular because of the video that he made what like four years ago yeah like i don't expect that much from rick ross no no disrespect but like he says i'm about this bread you know what i mean i'm not even that mad at nelly because after watching nelly talk about it it seemed like nelly

Speaker 1 believes in the presidency and actually supported Trump. So it's not that much of a contradiction.

Speaker 1 But when I see Snoop stand up and say, fuck Trump, and I hear him stand up and say, anybody that performs at the inauguration is a coon. Sambo.
Yeah, a Sambo.

Speaker 2 And then I see him performing at the inauguration.

Speaker 1 But that wasn't the inauguration. It wasn't the inauguration.

Speaker 2 Well, it was the party the day before.

Speaker 1 It was a crypto

Speaker 1 thing, a crypto event a few days before. And Snoop is heavy into the crypto world.
So that did align with his brand. One.
Two,

Speaker 1 and I said this when we saw Chef G, Sleepy Hollow, a lot of these dudes coming out for Trump, Kodak Black, who had legal issues that he kind of worked away with.

Speaker 1 We did see Snoop a couple years ago thanking Trump for partnering Harry O, who is the original founder of Defro Records, which Snoop now owns. It could be,

Speaker 1 dog, a lot of that, once you get up to that level, a lot of that shit is transactional business. So you did me a favor over here.
Now, when y'all call back and say, yo, remember, we did this for you.

Speaker 1 We need you to do this. A lot of niggas are going to do that.

Speaker 1 I think it's a little deeper than that. I think that

Speaker 1 in my observation, not my opinion, but in my observation, motherfuckers was displeased with how Biden ran the last four years. True.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of black men in particular made the transition from fuck Trump to I'm riding with him. I know niggas that did it.

Speaker 1 Like I've had arguments and conversations with a bunch of people that was off Trump.

Speaker 1 Biden gave us four years of shit that people couldn't necessarily see tangible benefits of anything that the administration did. And so they stay on a Trump train.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 I pose this question on Twitter. And I'm going to ask it here to y'all.

Speaker 1 If you knew

Speaker 1 that popping out for Trump could get you or somebody close to you released, pardoned, would you do it?

Speaker 1 It depends for me.

Speaker 2 What does it depend on?

Speaker 1 Am I fly with the nigga in jail? Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. Like if you're like NJ Bennett.
Or

Speaker 1 one of your people's. But did he do it?

Speaker 1 Don't know.

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't matter. How much time it does.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 He's in it for life. He got kids.
Yeah. Yes.
Do I like those kids? No, no.

Speaker 1 It depends, man. I'm talking shit, but I don't know.
My answer to that is I don't know. And

Speaker 1 I think that's most people's real answer is I don't know. but i watch a lot of people

Speaker 1 as soon as you see somebody stand up there it's like how dare you how dare you how dare you not really knowing why they did it there's a lot of people that jumped out for trump i named a couple

Speaker 1 who we know had wayne when wayne stood next to trump everybody was like yo how dare you how dare you even though wayne does appear to be tone deaf at times in certain situations but wayne was facing 10 years got that part and didn't have to go to prison.

Speaker 1 If I'm looking at 10 years, if a lot of people are looking at 10 years and he said, yo, come take this picture, come stand next to me, you don't do them 10 years. A lot of people is going to do that.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I'm doing it. I'm telling you right now, if I'm looking at, fuck 10 years, if I'm looking at 10 months, I'm looking at 10 minutes,

Speaker 1 I would be on that stage.

Speaker 1 That's different. This is loaded a little bit.
This is loaded a little bit because...

Speaker 1 I don't think all you niggas out there, the jailheads and the people with ties to the jailheads should just be predominantly speaking for how black people writes, how black people are supposed supposed to feel about this.

Speaker 1 We could recognize

Speaker 1 we could recognize that, oh, y'all doing some transactional shit

Speaker 1 and judge you based on that. Because I was about to say that that sets us back eons.

Speaker 1 And I'm shocked that you said that because you speak for

Speaker 1 progression. So if everybody got a price and all we got to do is either give you some money or show you a thing where you're going to benefit and we got you in pocket, nothing changes.

Speaker 1 No. Let me just add on to that.
Nothing changes.

Speaker 1 And that was my problem way back when Homeboy was talking about, yeah, I went to jail and my mug shot t-shirt is what is relating to and raising my vote amongst blacks. It's like, okay, maybe, but...

Speaker 1 We have a problem with you viewing where we already think you a bigot and a racist and all this shit. And now you keep correlating these jail and low-life three-fifths of a man type views to all.

Speaker 1 And all ain't rocking with that.

Speaker 1 But no, but then when you hear people up here, like a platform like us, no disrespect to nobody, but when you hear all of us that are in a decent position, all of us are educated people, and we say, yo, I would have did the same shit.

Speaker 1 It lends credence to everything that he's saying. Like, all I got, I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Everybody has a number and can be bought.

Speaker 1 Not just that.

Speaker 1 So would the principal thing for me be just sitting in prison for 10 years? No, what I'm saying. And people genuinely feel that way.
I'm not dissing.

Speaker 1 A lot of people will talk, but being put in that position, you act totally differently. With a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 it go we we had a snitching talk all the time I'm not niggas will say what they won't do won't do won't do and there's a good not saying that shit just be podcast talk listen I don't want us to speak from this type of like New York privilege I see what a nine dollar congestive pricing did tag did to the community I was in the city yesterday so

Speaker 1 if if there's people that are like you know what Fuck Trump, fuck that administration, Elon Musk, and all of that.

Speaker 1 However, I'm going to buckle up, get low, and try to get as much coin as I can in the next four years.

Speaker 1 Like there's people that don't have a political horse in the race that ain't really thinking as deeply about this. That's just like, all right, I see what shit you see.

Speaker 1 Anything that can spike is spiking.

Speaker 1 Damn, you see that Trump coin shit?

Speaker 1 The Trump coin, the other coin,

Speaker 1 the Hawk Tour coin.

Speaker 1 That's a joke. That's a joke.

Speaker 1 That little bitch still on the run. She ain't hopped to it since.

Speaker 1 She's on the shit.

Speaker 1 She's out out of there but i'm just saying it's some people that's like all right i'm gonna try to get all the money i can't mind regulation going on my thing is this like if if if we really if we really nelly could have went and did another show though if we really say we want change right as a people we really really want change then if we really want change we got to stop being for sale Like we talk about the colonization of Africa.

Speaker 1 We're talking about all the shit. But the second that somebody gives us something that's beneficial or something that

Speaker 1 we bite. We take it and we run.
So do we really want change? Yeah, but I think there's a difference between money and trying to avoid prison. But for me, the issue is

Speaker 1 no, but

Speaker 1 I'm not taking issue with transactional behavior in general. It's like, what's the transaction? So when it comes to, for example, Wayne, I'm not mad that Wayne ducked 10 years to this.

Speaker 1 Wayne stood on that Trump side pre-going to jail. But let's say he didn't.

Speaker 1 Let's say he decided on that day that I don't want to do 10 years, so I'm going to stay here looking like a hostage with my thumb up standing next to Trump like he did, right?

Speaker 1 I'm cool with that, but the difference is we are able to talk about the fact of why Wayne did it. I don't have an issue with Snoop saying, look, he got Harry Owa.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's a good enough reason. But

Speaker 1 if I did, then he owes it to us to tell us that's what he did. It's very clear.
No one doubts why Wayne did it. So my issue is Nelly changed his mind.
Or I'm sorry, Nelly has an opinion about Trump.

Speaker 1 I saw the whole Nellie interview, shout out to Willie D. Willie D.
Yeah, Willie D. I love his shit.
That's my man. And he said it very clearly.
It's like, fuck Biden.

Speaker 1 I don't have an issue with Trump. I support Trump, basically.

Speaker 1 And I respect the presidency. I respect this office.
So if you feel like that, I disagree with him, but it's not unprincipled for him to perform at the inauguration.

Speaker 1 My only issue is don't tell everybody it's fucked up to do X and then you do X and then you just pretend it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 You got some explaining to do because we follow you. Just like if tomorrow I stood up for Trump and I said, well, yeah, you got my cousin out of prison who was doing lack.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you that's why. That's what I'm saying.
Just tell me why. Otherwise, it looks like you sold out.
You know what I mean? As opposed to you made a strategic decision.

Speaker 1 Because ultimately, Lil Wayne or Kodak Black or whoever shouldn't be swaying elections, who they vote for shouldn't matter for us anyway.

Speaker 1 What if some of these performance agreements come with a little paperwork that you got to sign?

Speaker 1 You can't talk. That's interesting.
Not just that. Why does Snoop all? That's good.
Oh, an explanation. Well, he just said.
Because he told us not to.

Speaker 1 If he hadn't said shit, then he don't owe me nothing. But you can't stand on a public platform and say,

Speaker 1 I don't want to see none of y'all niggas at inauguration. I don't see none of y'all.
Yes, Master, you a coon if you support him. And then the next week you do.
Then you do it.

Speaker 1 He ain't doing it the next week. He did it four years later.

Speaker 1 There was no explanation.

Speaker 1 Then tell me that.

Speaker 1 I think he got to it.

Speaker 1 But I think that's the problem, though, Mark. I think the problem is that people are looking to figures for the answer or dissuade them.
You have to think for yourself.

Speaker 1 I think that that is, if he made that decision, you can change your mind. Things happen in real time that makes you change your mind.
Then tell me that.

Speaker 1 Or don't tell me shit from the beginning.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. I think we have too much expectations of celebrities and public speakers.
Too much expectations.

Speaker 1 Today, we could come up here, it's seven, eight people up here, and we could say, Yo, we feel X.

Speaker 1 And in four years, we could say, We feel Y.

Speaker 1 So we felt strongly in 2025 about something. And then in 2029, we could feel a totally different way.
But you see the difference?

Speaker 1 In your example, first I said this, and then four years later, I said that. My issue would be if you said this, and then four years later, I found out that you did that without saying anything.

Speaker 1 Once you start talking, and you have a public, I'm saying you owe it to the people who follow you. to be responsible and tell them something different.

Speaker 1 Don't let me sit up here and say, fuck Donald Trump, fuck Donald Trump. Every week we go to Joe Button podcast and then they check my voting records in four years and they found out I voted for him.

Speaker 1 I owe y'all something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that was happening. And it's fucked up.

Speaker 1 A whole lot of happening. Hey, yo, listen, I'm going to give you an example with me.

Speaker 1 Like, I know I make a lot of the migrant jokes up here and stuff like that, but initially, some of my family from Haiti, you know, extended family, benefited off of that, right?

Speaker 1 And then now, when everything is plastered on the television, it sways you. Oh, that happened? Oh, they're setting people on fire.
Oh, they're doing this.

Speaker 1 And you going into the city and there's just a lot of shit that can change your mind in real time. So then when Trump comes out, out of respect for my mom, I don't really speak about politics.

Speaker 1 But when Trump comes out and say, yo, things can go back to how they were when I get back, you know, when I get in office, it can sway you, okay,

Speaker 1 it can sway your

Speaker 1 opinion. I think it's possible.

Speaker 1 I think it's possible, and I don't know shit about shit. I think it's possible that Snoop may be in rooms today that weren't accessible to him four years ago.

Speaker 1 I think with the

Speaker 1 taxes going up and up and and up. I think niggas is out here, again, getting to whatever bag they can.
Snoop plays political for the most parts, but you see him on ponies at the shit.

Speaker 1 You see him at F1. You see him.
Simple dance.

Speaker 1 Snoop is

Speaker 1 the Shaquille O'Neal of rap. So that crypto ball, you know what crypto is doing.
You know they paying 100x, which you would typically get. I'm just saying, you asking a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Just on your answer. Not just Instagram.
Just get Instagram. You know what? I'm here.
No. Because blah, blah, blah, blah.
No. I don't.

Speaker 1 Now you're cutting off a good portion. Yo, Snoop's fan base today.
Mm-hmm. It might be more of them than us today.

Speaker 1 So then what is the what's the harm in saying, yo, I'm out here to crypto wall because I support crypto.

Speaker 1 I'm non-political. I'm just here to support crypto.
What's the harm in not saying it? It's nothing that y'all opinions is going to do to alter where I'm at or what I'm doing or who I'm talking to.

Speaker 1 Because you jumped out the window already.

Speaker 1 Four years ago. Yes, it changed.
People follow you. Right.
So if it changed, tell me or don't say shit.

Speaker 1 people, you said people follow you. And I got a lot of new people that follow me, maybe from the other side.

Speaker 1 I think he reserved the right to do whatever he wants. And I think people reserve the right to view him a certain way afterward if that's what they want to do.

Speaker 1 It don't always need to be a conversation. Sometimes people tell you things through their actions.

Speaker 1 His actions look like he'd do anything for a bag.

Speaker 1 That's how people are reading it. And he just might.
And he might.

Speaker 1 And that's. Yo, let me tell you something.
In the next four years,

Speaker 1 we're we're going to be calling a lot more people sellouts.

Speaker 1 This is the tip of the iceberg y'all want to talk about Snoop Nelly and fucking Soldier Boy.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a repeated, continuous thing where people are making decisions that it's going to look a little way with the optic, but they got a bag that's once in a lifetime and it'll never happen like this again.

Speaker 1 Listen, man, people are doing what they got to do for them. I mean, yes, we reserve the right to say something about it.
Judge them if you want, but at the end of the day, they making that decision.

Speaker 1 Like you said, yo, I might not never see this bag again.

Speaker 1 Jill, I'm gonna take it. Let me ask you,

Speaker 1 some people are gonna take that bag. Jill, let me ask you a question.
You talk about being independent, having your own business, etc.

Speaker 1 If tomorrow you decided to sign a big contract with Spotify, or tomorrow you decided to sign a big deal with Def Jam,

Speaker 1 everybody who watches you is going to be like, What the fuck is he doing? You wouldn't feel an obligation to tell the audience why you made that choice.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about the choice, I'm talking about

Speaker 1 you what? I think he would

Speaker 1 answer that honestly. I don't think he would at all.
I do.

Speaker 1 I'm on both sides of that. I'm on,

Speaker 1 I'm on, I don't feel like I have to divulge my business dealings with my audience. Or your reasoning.

Speaker 1 And two, I think naturally who I am,

Speaker 1 that would come out of me, Pause. Gotcha.
That's his makeup. That's the makeup of Slight.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say to myself, hey, I have to do this because my fans are old, yada, yada, yada. I would just do that instinctually because that's kind of what I do.

Speaker 1 And you built your brand on somewhat transparent transparency. Yeah.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Yo, listen,

Speaker 1 it's a really slippery slope. Like one of my dudes from Baltimore,

Speaker 1 I kind of met him through the pod.

Speaker 1 He runs a nonprofit in Baltimore. Real positive black dude, dope.
He hit me. He said, yo, I'm having mixed feelings.
He said, yo, he bought some of the Trump coin.

Speaker 1 He said he was in class on on Saturday and one of the dudes in his class started crying. And he said, he looking at the nigga like he crazy, like, yo, you all right?

Speaker 1 He said, the dude showed him his phone. He was up $307,000, right? In one day.
He said, yo, that's when the shit was at $7.

Speaker 1 He said, ish, I took my last 23 grand and I bought that shit. He said, yo, by the night, he was up 80 grand in profit.
He said, yo, he's having mixed feelings because it's called Trump coin.

Speaker 1 I said, nigga, are you fucking stupid? You better get that money. So I don't give a a fuck if Trump was the incentive on getting the money, long as you ain't giving it back to Trump type agendas.

Speaker 1 If that's your stance, get that money. That's it.
That's it. Hawk to a girl.
Give me a call.

Speaker 1 Call me up. Hawk to her.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about things.

Speaker 1 Saturday night, that shit was in the 20s. Nigga, Sunday, that shit shot to 70s.
Mark, you ain't getting no Trump coin? No. I ain't getting none either.
But I would. But y'all standing on principle?

Speaker 1 Not getting it? It's not a principle. No, hell no.
I was trying to get it. I just couldn't get this shit.
I just couldn't get access to it. Ice called me Saturday night.
Yo, you heard this shit? Yo.

Speaker 1 I could get y'all to Trump Air Force Ones. Nah, I'll see.

Speaker 1 That motherfucker coin.

Speaker 1 By the way, why y'all can't get it?

Speaker 1 It was hard to get it. They not like that.
One, it was kind of hard to get. And then two, it was unbeknownst to most people.

Speaker 1 Look at the Trump, the Trump coin. And it's no, the hookup on the Trump coin won't serve at ICE.

Speaker 1 Ice is the first person that told me about Trump coin. Gee, he stay looking out for you.
I didn't know nothing about it. After you left him like that.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Can I add one more layer to this real quick?

Speaker 1 Make sure you come back to his car. I'm sorry, Gabriel.
No, go ahead. No, Gabrielle.
I was just going to say, Chrisette Michelle, that's the only thing I, the other thing I hate about all of this,

Speaker 1 is that she got roasted. Roasted.
Roasted.

Speaker 1 She got kicked off her label. Her career was demolished.
Her career is over. Yeah.
And because she performed at inauguration, I mean, she literally got dropped from her label. People mock her.

Speaker 1 She can't get money. And I don't think one thing is going to happen to Snoop.
Ross, Nellie, or Social Boy. I'm not saying it should.

Speaker 1 I'm saying I wish Chrissette Michelle would have gotten the same grace as everybody else.

Speaker 1 I think a lot has changed since that inauguration in this inauguration. Christendom Michelle doesn't have 30 years of hits.
Yeah. With all due respect to Chris, I wasn't trying to.

Speaker 1 Bro, y'all doing it. Y'all aren't doing it.
I'm nice. We are what I want.

Speaker 1 No, y'all do. You're doing that shit again, that mumbling shit, what? Because I've seen the internet been saying that with the old Christette Michelle.

Speaker 2 You had the same energy for, you know, that you had for Chris.

Speaker 1 Chrisette Michelle, with all due respect, I think we were label label mates

Speaker 1 at one point,

Speaker 1 one of the most angelic voices out there. This is not to speak to her talent.
Her career was over before she made that statement. She was canceled way before that.

Speaker 1 Her career was done before that statement, before that performance was done.

Speaker 2 Wait, career being over and canceled are two different things. Why do you say canceled before?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying the same thing. He's saying what I'm saying.
I'm saying the same thing. Her career.

Speaker 1 They canceled her and they stayed over.

Speaker 1 I'm saying before that, before they called themselves canceling her, she was already. It was

Speaker 1 apart kaputz. But she could still make a living.
You know what I mean? She could be on the chitlin circuit. Don't step on kaputz.

Speaker 1 Kaputz, because it's a thing. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm sure there was some added added to that afterward, but I just don't think it's a fear comp to.

Speaker 1 I think if anything, I think it is a fair comp. I don't think that's it.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about how we're talking about her. Not the impact of her.

Speaker 1 If this was four years ago and Nellie Ross and Snoop did that inauguration, I think they faced the same level of scrutiny.

Speaker 1 You think they got kicked off the label? No, but Snoop owns the label. But I think they would have gotten the same scrutiny.
I don't think Nellie's on the label. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Them niggas would have gotten mad.

Speaker 1 Today, people feel differently about Donald Trump than they did four years ago. That's what we're not acknowledging.
And I think them niggas still caught heat.

Speaker 1 I think they caught some heat. They did.
They caught a little heat. They caught a little.

Speaker 1 Not nothing. Four years ago, them niggas would have been in the oven.
Yeah. I don't think so.
Yo, there's no such thing as an oven now when

Speaker 1 they put them five, four white people in the picture and it added up to a mega gazillion trillion dollars. There is no

Speaker 1 relationships that y'all keep telling, and not y'all because I'm down with it, but that we keep telling people to distance themselves from.

Speaker 1 are the ones that

Speaker 1 are going to continue to get these people more paid than they've ever been.

Speaker 1 So they're willing to stand on the front line with however you poor people feel.

Speaker 1 I just posted an article the other day. I read some shit.
They said the 40 richest white people in America have more money.

Speaker 1 400, pardon me. 400 richest white people in America have more wealth than every black person in the entire country put together.
400 motherfuckers have more money than 41 million people. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, dog, what we talking about?

Speaker 1 So our little, we shall overcome. That shit ain't going nowhere, friend, nigga.
Be careful. They had like a 300-year head start.
No, the 500-year, really, if you want to keep it a bunch.

Speaker 1 And everybody got their reparations except for black people. And then they said, yo,

Speaker 1 the top 1,000 people giving out their land. There was a lot going on.

Speaker 1 They gave up.

Speaker 1 There was a lot going on

Speaker 1 as to why we are in the deficit.

Speaker 1 So, and they said the top 1,000 white people have more cumulative wealth wealth than every Hispanic person and black person put together in the entire country.

Speaker 1 My nigga, it's a different game being played. It's a totally different game being played.
So we could look at them niggas, they look at us like ants.

Speaker 1 To be totally honest with you, now you're walking down the street, you step on the ant, we don't think nothing of it. I don't do that.
What? Don't

Speaker 1 do that. I don't do that at all.
I'm pro-life.

Speaker 1 Bugs. Like that.
And insects. I put the mice outside if I catch one.
I don't kill them.

Speaker 1 You're my son. When you started doing this,

Speaker 1 you are lying. lying.

Speaker 1 You knew I was like that. You heard my melody.

Speaker 1 Read about my life in the papers.

Speaker 1 Anyway, but yo, dog, they look at this just like that. How we look at deer or some shit.
You know what I'm saying? Niggas that just kill a deer like it's nothing.

Speaker 1 That's how they look at this, like collateral damage. Oh, 5,000 people? Oh, okay.
Like, it ain't about nothing. If it's going to mean me getting some more spanky.

Speaker 1 So, again, I just. Mark, everybody wouldn't have made

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 bold choice that you made with your last gig and how to hit.

Speaker 1 Everybody wouldn't have made that choice.

Speaker 1 Only you and Amanda.

Speaker 1 And I don't ever expect anybody to make the choice that I make. All I tell people, again, if I was to stand up tomorrow and say the opposite of what I said that day, I think

Speaker 1 I got some explaining to do.

Speaker 1 That's my only thing is just be consistent. You can either not say shit or you can say something and stand on it.
Y'all being too serious for me today.

Speaker 1 Only you and Amanda seals, and y'all just kept.

Speaker 1 she might have, she might have said some shit I didn't know about. That's my girl.
She texted me last time. We was talking bad about her up here.

Speaker 1 What she said in the text. I'm gonna fuck ice up.
Some shit read me. Oh.
Man, that's somebody I've known for so long, I would think that. Well, I might be lying.

Speaker 1 She definitely texted me. I don't want to quote the text, but I'll get another text.

Speaker 1 Too late. You already are.
Ah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Nah, I love Amanda. I love Amanda.
That's my sister. Listen, Nellie told y'all.
Bill Gates, Donald Trump, let me in. He told y'all that.
He wasn't unclear. He told y'all that in 01.

Speaker 1 And now y'all sitting here 24 years later. Nigga, he said, Shout out to Donald Trump.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 nigga, all them rappers.

Speaker 1 See, Trump dick back. Everybody is.
Why y'all letting facts? Why y'all?

Speaker 1 Celebrity apprentice, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's y'all to be letting rappers dictate your fucking.

Speaker 1 Yo, nigga, if you was watching Celebrity Apprentice. Who? You? Nah, I watch your show.
You want to watch a regular apprentice earlier. You want to go on one of them celebrity realtor shows.

Speaker 1 No, I don't. Yes, you do.
I'm far from it. This small bury.

Speaker 1 You be lit on that shit.

Speaker 1 Lick his lips at the host. Hey, thank you, Sharon.
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 Y'all look at the stupid nigga's face. You were trying to compliment the women.
Yeah, you're so stupid. Giving them nicknames in real time.

Speaker 1 Yo, you a good talker. Shere me, shot shot.
Shasha.

Speaker 1 What'd y'all think about the TikTok shit?

Speaker 1 I think they're pulling the move. The move was pulled off.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, everything for the next

Speaker 1 advertising move for sure. is a move.

Speaker 1 Are we going to stop and have the they pulling the move talk every time a move happen?

Speaker 1 I made this analogy the other day. This is like this that bump shit Corey and his man did.
We was playing spades in Costa Rica. When you don't win, you can't change the deck.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 So now the cards is all stuck together, but they keep going your way.

Speaker 1 And then the fucking losers just got to sit there and play with the nasty deck with no spades coming your way for the the next four hours. That's what the next four years is.
It's going to be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A whole lot. Stay low, mind your business.

Speaker 1 Plan,

Speaker 1 get healthy,

Speaker 1 read, get educated, save, stack, love on your people, talk to your people, communicate with your people. Or that's real, pretty much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get you, this is what Big Mama used to fucking write some shit on the fridge that you had to read every time you opened the fridge. Yeah, nigga, go get healthy.
Go get right.

Speaker 1 Watch the meat, watch the mediums of which you consume things.

Speaker 1 I've been saying for a while, some of that shit is there intentionally, and that little Nazi shit just drove that point home for me. I'm like, oh, exactly, you bitch.
That's pretty slick move

Speaker 1 shitting on the media and raising questions about everything we read. Rightfully so, maybe, maybe not.
Only then to get the entire social media behind you, and

Speaker 1 it's even more fucking disinformation out there.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking play. A long play.

Speaker 1 Long play. These niggas control

Speaker 1 your goods, services, your food,

Speaker 1 your water. I mean, y'all talking about protesting.
Man, she getting real.

Speaker 1 Hey, better fast.

Speaker 1 Better fast. Voluntarily.
Yeah, Ramanon's up. Ramanon.
Niggas are how you fasted involuntarily.

Speaker 1 I'm starving out this bitch. I'm telling you, dog.
Yes, get back to one meal every two and three days. Shit, they about to start putting shit in the air.
Yeah. Yeah.
About to start.

Speaker 1 They already was doing that. No comment.
I mean, I don't want to get sued.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, whatever trick you could think of, it's being played, it's already being played. Save your tweet.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Shit, real.
They make a money off that, too. Facts.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You niggas is on ex protesting. Protesting.

Speaker 1 Seriously. Protesting

Speaker 1 I came in here and asked y'all a few months ago what y'all locked up

Speaker 1 what y'all think of these fucking Tesla truck owners. I've been egging them shits all week.

Speaker 1 Don't come around me with one of them little Tesla lunchboxes, dog. I'm letting you know I'm egging that shit.
And you better hope I don't got a wire hang on me. But times have changed.
I don't.

Speaker 1 What y'all want to do with the wire hang?

Speaker 1 What? Breaking it or scratch it? Egg thing. I ain't breaking that shit.

Speaker 1 They got cameras outside that shit. You know that.
I wouldn't give a fuck what's outside this. They got masks.
I can see Joe right now, nigga. I got masks.
There go Joe again. There you go.

Speaker 1 Egging cyber trucks is funny. It is.
Yeah. Egging anything is funny.
And booing at places is funny, too.

Speaker 1 Are you a boar?

Speaker 1 Sometimes. No, you're a boar.
I get to tell you. Not Joe.
I don't think Joe respects the craft and art too much to boo someone. Now, sometimes that's why you boo.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, because you respect the craft and art so much. I love it.
What you up there doing? Like, boo somebody where? Joe, you don't boo Joe. Stop it.
I absolutely don't. Show something.

Speaker 1 You boo niggas? If it's called for. Booing somebody at the show is crazy.
That's what I'm saying. You don't get

Speaker 1 y'all wouldn't boo the show? No. No.
No, nigga.

Speaker 1 Nice. Maybe a comedian.
Did I pay? So then, yes. I was thinking music when I said no, but I'm thinking it through.
Maybe a comedian. Maybe.
The Sixers? Yeah. I never boo.
You don't boo the opponents?

Speaker 1 You ain't boo at all during a 10-inch season? Boo an opponent. Nah, not really, not a 10-season bullshit.
The last only time I've booed a game was Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 So you're down with us. Why do you keep, y'all do this word soup shit when y'all just agree with us? You would boo somewhere.

Speaker 1 I'm only talking about music I don't boo because I was talking about the craft and the art of it. I couldn't boo somebody because they didn't play well or sing well.
What if someone

Speaker 1 disrespected the craft of

Speaker 1 performing and showmanship, then I'm booing them. Did some foul shit on the side of the field? That's what they hotlight.
Yo, during the

Speaker 1 Jada and Beans beef, if you was at a show and Jada did this in Philly, would you boo?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. We got him.
Yeah, you got me. Yeah, we got him.

Speaker 1 You got me. You wouldn't boo.

Speaker 1 If you was waiting in an arena for three hours before an act came out and they came out and did two songs and bounced, you wouldn't boo?

Speaker 1 Lauren Hill did something to me like that, basically. I knew that's who you were.
And I didn't boo. I wasn't happy, but I didn't boo.

Speaker 1 That was like a shit. I know she's the poster child for that, but rappers are good for that.
Yeah, her shit was egregious, but it was really bad.

Speaker 1 Rappers are good for, at least there was space in there. Y'all had elbow room to boo at that Lauren shit when y'all was waiting.

Speaker 1 The rappers should be 400 cap. Now you're sitting waiting in SOBs for two and a half hours, and he's right downstairs.

Speaker 1 He ain't even outside home on his way. Yeah, no, it gets bad.
I'm booing. If I pay my dollar, I reserve the right to boo.

Speaker 1 And if I'm bad and up there fucking up shit they can go ahead and boo that's real or if you curse out the opening acts or

Speaker 1 this this town you went yeah i was wild yeah i was wild a few cities i went up there and just said some i shouldn't have said facts

Speaker 1 growth

Speaker 1 yeah but i also caught uh an my an active polyp in the middle of 15,000 people in Virginia in one of them omni theaters like dead in the middle of a song completely no voice.

Speaker 1 I was still on the first verse.

Speaker 2 How did the audience react? Did they boo you?

Speaker 1 No, they didn't boo me.

Speaker 1 I think I was just in a state of shock and not knowing what was going on. But if they would have chosen to boo me, is what I'm saying, then you'd understood.
Get your shit off.

Speaker 1 You can't lose your voice while I'm singing along to your song. I'm not doing it.
It ain't karaoke time. I know that's cruel, man.
If a nigga lost his voice, I ain't booing you.

Speaker 1 He don't want to lose his voice. Nigga, if I paid and got a fit and all all of that shit and up in here, and now you're up here for 10 seconds and you lost your voice.

Speaker 1 First off, I don't believe you lost your voice. That's one.
I don't even believe that. I think that's some rapper bullshit you pulling to get up out of here and run off with the money.
I'm booing.

Speaker 1 And we might line you up. Okay.
I ain't gonna hold you. The last two weeks, Burner Boy just been walking off stage for whatever.
And it's been the funniest thing in the world.

Speaker 1 Now, some of them have been fundraisers. Some of them have been, hey, I wasn't even paid.
This is some volunteer shit. But I'm still in the spirit of getting a joke off.

Speaker 1 Somebody, I guess, and he had an incident where somebody ran on stage.

Speaker 1 So, a few weeks ago, somebody ran on stage again. The security got to him, they got him out of there, and Burning Boy was like, You know what?

Speaker 1 Nah, I'm out of here. Now,

Speaker 1 I'm out of here. And that one was understandable.
The other day, he said, Yo, these lights is too hot on me. That's the fifth time the lights have burned me.
And if it happens again, I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 I think that that's hilarious. I also think if they decide to boo his ass, then they will within their right.

Speaker 1 Y'all are hit. Because don't talk to me like that at the show.
Y'all just a tough crowd, man. Y'all are a tough crowd.
You're from Philadelphia. You're from Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 We respect you. Y'all boo Santa Claus.
Y'all still bringing that shit up. That shit was like 40 years ago.
They didn't have batteries at the fucking game. They coldly.

Speaker 1 We threw one set of batteries, and they were D batteries, but

Speaker 1 they were Ds? Yeah. Those are heavy.

Speaker 1 Mel, who just has a battery accessible to throw at a sporting event? I'm gonna tell you something. Would you just got dressed and put them in your mouth?

Speaker 1 I say there's a lot of blue-collar workers in Philly that

Speaker 1 flashlights. Yes, we brought the batteries.
Yes, it was for J.D. Drew because he got drafted and didn't play for us.
I actually thought we were wrong for that.

Speaker 1 Throwing D batteries at somebody because they didn't sign with your team as a free agent. Did you hit him? No.
No, thank God. Because I could have killed him.

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I'm rooting for them, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1 They haven't looked the greatest to me. They look like they could be had, and Kansas City looks like they could be had depending on what the refs had for breakfast that morning.

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Speaker 1 With that said,

Speaker 1 I want to go back to that TikTok band. I know we maybe started talking about that.

Speaker 1 And I'm not shitting on nobody that was actually going through, going through like real

Speaker 1 emotional stress and pain because a lot of people was going through it. It was fucked up.
I think I was with Amani at the time and he was pulling out the phone like, oh my God, cap cut.

Speaker 1 Not cap cut. I was like, yo, you such a dweeb.

Speaker 1 Not my cap cut. But yeah, a lot of people were going through it with a TikTok ban.
It came back the next day.

Speaker 1 It came back the next day. So I don't really have much to say about that.

Speaker 1 But what I do want to say is it did give me a bright idea and think that we should all kind of just lose Wi-Fi for a week mandatory every month.

Speaker 1 That would be good. Just to see

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 to see how we can do it. Most people can't do it.
Your phone is so connected to your day-to-day life that most people can't do it.

Speaker 1 Not only that, it's certain people that's running their entire business off their phone. All of that.

Speaker 1 All of that.

Speaker 1 Like, this shit is different. They got you.

Speaker 1 Well, then they could use business Wi-Fi.

Speaker 1 They could get some type of business pass to the bus. Like use the hardwire shit.
Same way over time.

Speaker 1 He didn't say Ethernet. He could still plug in.

Speaker 1 Ethernet court. I think everybody should get a little break.
A little, go get yourself right. Spend time with yourself, your thoughts.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw all four of them, five of them dudes standing behind Trump the other day, and I promise you that is never going to happen. Bro, the plays is all lined out.

Speaker 1 Like, even the TikTok band, the real band is still in effect.

Speaker 1 Well, how you saw? Yeah. You can't, like, right now, if you go to the app store and try to download TikTok, you can't.

Speaker 1 That was the, it was never the ban on the service. That whole message that popped up on the screen and them going dark for 12 hours or so, I think that was literally a deal they worked out with Trump.

Speaker 1 Oh, for sure, for sure. You can tell.
His name was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is just to make him look good.

Speaker 1 But the real ban, it's just like some of these other apps. Once they get banned out of the store, if you have it on your phone, you straight.

Speaker 1 That's like the people that went and deleted the app when they thought, oh, shit, TikTok is banned. It's over.
They can't now get the app back. That's crazy.
That was the real,

Speaker 1 we spoke about this on a Patreon episode. I was explaining how their banning is really going to work at.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 That's why you can't go get CapCut now. That's why you can't go get, it's like seven or eight apps that was under Bite Dance.
You can't get them. Ironically,

Speaker 1 Instagram has just announced that they're coming out with an app called Edits Editor.

Speaker 1 Which does exactly what CapCut does. Which is what? I'm slow.
It's just for you to edit your picture. It's It's a video editing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. On devices, video campuses for niggas that still get fly.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It does like cool transitions and shit like that.

Speaker 1 I don't even pretend to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that's just,

Speaker 1 they're just playing games in front of everybody's face.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the message that popped up on my phone was, sorry, TikTok isn't available right now. A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S.
Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok right now.

Speaker 2 We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on the solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned.
Exclamation fucking point.

Speaker 1 Before he took office, it was already back on the runner. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How many of y'all here use TikTok?

Speaker 2 I have, but I'm just not.

Speaker 1 Committed. I get a post every once in a while.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's not my favorite app.

Speaker 1 Only time I see TikTok is if somebody sends me one and you click it and it takes you to the

Speaker 1 girl sends me TikTok, so I use it for what she sends me for.

Speaker 1 I got like eight posts on TikTok. I never use it.
It's not interesting to me. It's not for my audience.
We all just watch. We old.
Yeah. We old shit.
Because they live on that shit.

Speaker 1 My kids live on that shit. Like, I've had people tell me they TikTok things.
They don't even Google. Like, Google is old.

Speaker 1 Like, you know how anything we want to look up, you Google it. They TikTok it.
That's it. They get their results.

Speaker 1 They answers and shit right there. What app or what social.
Yeah, what app did you guys become addicted to initially when it came out? Was it Instagram?

Speaker 1 Was it Twitter? It was Twitter for me. Twitter for you, but it was addiction thing.
It wasn't an app, though, right? When you came.

Speaker 1 Two was an app. No, it's an app now, but not the time that.

Speaker 1 It was always an app.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 It was text code first. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's what I'm talking about. Initially.

Speaker 1 And then it became an app. Yes.
Yes, exactly. You became addicted since then.
No, it was an app. Well, now I was fucked up.
I got addicted with the app in 09.

Speaker 1 I was addicted to Facebook, though, when that shit came out.

Speaker 1 Me too. That was my shit.
Somebody was like, oh my God, how will I know where to go eat? And somebody was like,

Speaker 1 no, you go cook. They're like, yeah, but how will I know what to cook?

Speaker 1 That's crazy, son.

Speaker 1 That's. I understand the impact that TikTok has.

Speaker 1 I felt for them for the 12 hours, but it was a nice little break. It was a nice little break.
Yeah, come over here. Yeah, get over here.
Like a whole new influx of people shaking ass on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 hey, hey. It was.
New reels. One lady was making fresh meat.
One lady says she makes $30,000 a month. She was in the car crying.
I felt kind of bad. I feel bad for her.

Speaker 1 I've been in the car crying, too. I make $30,000 a month.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I might.
That's what we do. What do she do on there? No, niggas make millions of dollars.
I'm checking out what she do.

Speaker 1 That amount of money I'm moving.

Speaker 1 We got to save our brand. Yeah, that's why when we tell you that.

Speaker 1 Y'all banning it? Okay, I've been rating for it. It works.

Speaker 1 You're gonna start saving. That's all I took from it.
Like, you gotta save for rainy days. Yo, people gotta save it.
Everybody ain't in a position that's niggas. Shit is high as fuck.

Speaker 1 Nah, it's niggas. But when niggas make 30, they spending 27.
Oh, no, you're right. 28.
You're right. Yeah.
I made 30 a month, letting them go get get a new like it's just shit that we do.

Speaker 1 Put some shit away, man. That's why I've been learning to put it away.
There you go. I didn't know how much people was.

Speaker 1 I was on a

Speaker 1 spaces. My wife was out of the country, so I had a little more freedom.
Time in your hands. Yeah, time of my hands.
And I went, I went to

Speaker 1 a couple of spaces with

Speaker 1 you and Amani and Joe. You know, there was, it might have been like two in the morning and stuff.
I was just doing research, you know, to understand the app better. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 And so I started clicking on some of the profiles that was in.

Speaker 1 In the audience? In the audience to understand the fan base better. It's called demographic.
And what did you learn? That a whole lot of them make a whole lot of money OnlyFans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So those are the ones you was clicking on. They had the only fans.
Well, they gravitate to the broadcast.

Speaker 1 They were the vocal ones.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. The algorithm.
No, no,

Speaker 1 they were vocal. No, because he's right, because I don't follow them, but they were very vocal.
On TikTok late at night, the algorithm bring them to you.

Speaker 1 He's on Twitter, though.

Speaker 1 Twitter, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was talking to. Yeah.
And I just bring them up. I go to their page first and say, oh, she's.

Speaker 1 Okay, come up. Like, that's how I do it.

Speaker 1 And that flux to them. And I do the research on the people he brought up.
Yeah, salute.

Speaker 1 So y'all had the one-two thing going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was just in the audience. It was him and Amani.

Speaker 1 I brought you a hosting. Oh, yeah, you brought me up.
I didn't say a word. Let's spend more time unpacking what happened on the free spaces.
It changed my life, man.

Speaker 1 You discern how you bring people up. Let's spend more time right here, right this session.
Nah, nah, we ain't talking about that. What do y'all think? No, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is there's a lot of freaky people in there that make a lot of money, money, and I didn't realize it.

Speaker 1 I don't see how you didn't realize that. It's not about the audience anymore.
I'm just talking about how they're getting to it out there.

Speaker 1 I just didn't appreciate how much. Like, it's not my world.
I didn't know either. So

Speaker 1 you kind of

Speaker 1 made me. No, I'm serious.
Like, the pod, rather. Not you per se, but the pod made me realize it's whole other worlds out there that I know nothing about.
I'm dad that serious. Like,

Speaker 1 if it's not in your immediate circle or circle, I don't know if some of that shit exists. Like, I never had a TikTok in my life, but I know people make money.
Like, my niece and them be killing them.

Speaker 1 They make mad bread on that shit. But it's just like, eh, it never really crossed my path.

Speaker 1 You can make money on TikTok. Yeah, you got to start TikTok in your house builds.

Speaker 1 Today we're going to

Speaker 1 build a roof. Let me show you how.
Hey, yo, Jeff, come.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You make mad money, son. You got to take advantage of that.
I don't know how to do none of that shit. You just.

Speaker 1 I don't know how how to do none of that shit. Have your niece teach you.

Speaker 1 True. You don't have a pod TikTok page or nothing?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Wow, interesting. Why wouldn't you? I did, but

Speaker 1 I stopped it.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you why I offer you. Okay.
Gotcha. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, did y'all catch Chappelle on SNL? Yes,

Speaker 1 it was great. Yes.

Speaker 1 I personally think he absolutely smoked that. It was a 17-minute monologue, which was really a set.

Speaker 1 Pretty much. And

Speaker 1 he touched on everything from

Speaker 1 Trump to the world. Yeah, the world.

Speaker 1 The fires in LA. And Chappelle Genius was just able to

Speaker 1 say some real shit while making it funny and then tied it all together at the end.

Speaker 1 Because I loved him opening with,

Speaker 1 yeah, they called me to do this shit months ago. And I was like, no, nigga, get the fuck out of here.
But they were so persistent that I just said, ah, fuck it. January 6th, or whatever the date was.

Speaker 1 I loved him highlighting that because I didn't got caught a million times with that.

Speaker 1 You try to get somebody off the phone, so you just end up booking yourself to do some shit that you're going to forget about in a few months.

Speaker 1 I loved it.

Speaker 2 I like how he ended it with, you know, basically saying that empathy and, you know, just kind of being compassionate to your fellow man is really what's the priority.

Speaker 2 So he mentions, you know, if you're, whether you're in the Palisades or Palestine, empathy. Mark, I have a question.

Speaker 2 How do you feel about people who can freely discuss Palestine and not kind of pay any kind of consequence at this point?

Speaker 1 I'd be hating.

Speaker 1 I'd be mad as shit sometimes.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for them, and I'm happy. It's like Kaepernick, you know? It's like

Speaker 1 people kneel and don't get in trouble where he got blackballed.

Speaker 1 And they make him the example

Speaker 1 so it's always going to be difficult for him, but other people are able to do it because of him. I'm not saying like I'm the Kaepernick and shit.
I'm just saying I am. Which

Speaker 1 you should be able able to do SNL.

Speaker 1 Like that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 They won't take my calls, man.

Speaker 1 Just keep fucking ignoring me. No, I mean, like, I just, you know, I love it.
And I love that Chappelle's using this platform to be courageous.

Speaker 1 I also just thought he was funny as shit, man.

Speaker 1 You can get, I don't usually like poor people's jokes. No, he smoked that.
But he killed it. I was laughing.
You know what I mean? It was like, it was actually funny. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Sometimes when people do it, it's not funny.

Speaker 1 I'm glad that he wore sleeves. I think that's the first time I've seen Chappelle in sleeves.
in 15 years. He was a great suit, too.
He was greater than Booty. He was suited in Booty.

Speaker 1 Still spoken to SIG. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 And the skits were pretty funny that he was in, too. Not for nothing.
SNL be hitting miss. He's

Speaker 1 low-key.

Speaker 1 He's putting his name in the top three.

Speaker 2 I feel like it was already there. Yeah,

Speaker 1 like it was. Not for me.
Man, it was already there. He's low-key putting his name in the top three.
Top three is hot for the Chappelle show.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 I wasn't a fan of the Chappelle show like that. Oh.

Speaker 1 Really? No, that makes it. I get it.
That fits. That tracks.
No, it doesn't. Do you not like

Speaker 1 humor? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you didn't like the white power.

Speaker 1 I knew you were going to shit. I was like, what you do it, y'all.

Speaker 1 You didn't like the white power with Joe Biggsley and all that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that shit wasn't really funny.

Speaker 1 What? When he thought he was white? No, for real. I don't think that it should think that that's funny.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Right?

Speaker 1 Rick James.

Speaker 1 I'm not the biggest fan of slapstick comedy or sketch comedy like that.

Speaker 1 What type of comedy you like, itch? You just shouldn't know you slip. Slapstick.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm Rick James, bitch. Smack.
That's not. But what to the five?

Speaker 1 It's a whole

Speaker 1 slap. That'll make it slapstick.
Yeah, it's go watch the Chappelle show, please, to at least be

Speaker 1 the player head and ball episodes.

Speaker 1 I've seen it. The racial fucking drive.
World Series of Dice. But be cultural with us a little bit.
Come on, man. You got to find out what's our brothers.

Speaker 1 What do you consider?

Speaker 1 What is your comedy? That's what I was curious about. What is your comedy? So you spin.

Speaker 1 Kelsey Grammar. Harlem Knights.
Boomerang.

Speaker 1 Ed Murphy. All right.
Like current time shit, though. Yeah, like.
Anything. Nigga ain't laughing.

Speaker 1 He ain't laughed in centuries.

Speaker 1 All right. Yo.

Speaker 1 Niggas said all the time, boomerang.

Speaker 1 He ain't laughing for so long. He ain't laughing.
Eons.

Speaker 1 Hollywood Shuffle was funny as shit. The Richard Barnes shit, right? Ocean 11, the original one.

Speaker 1 With the rat pack.

Speaker 1 With the rat pack.

Speaker 1 I love that. I watched that.
Dick Gregory or those

Speaker 1 Johnny Carson.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you don't have no new comedy that you watch that you think is, you know, that's relatable to us. You don't have to always be like a mystery.

Speaker 1 Like, relate. What are you talking about? Fam, I don't got to necessarily conform to what everybody thinks is funny neither.

Speaker 1 What do you think funny? What's funny? What do you think you find funny? Bro, I just started talking, and the room cut me off. Well, this century, that's what we're trying to say.
This century.

Speaker 1 The last 25 years. Who's your top three? You said Chappelle's entering the top three.
Who's your top three comedians? Red Fox. Richard Pryor.

Speaker 1 Red Fox.

Speaker 1 Eddie. Sammy Davis.
Mom's Maybely.

Speaker 1 Can't you take this old chick to

Speaker 1 Red Fox?

Speaker 1 That nigga home listen to Lenny Bruce Records.

Speaker 1 Weird Al.

Speaker 1 Weird Al.

Speaker 1 Yank of it. Oh, sorry.
I forgot to say. Who's your top three? Peewee Herman, for sure.

Speaker 1 Who's your top three? Who's your top three? It's for real.

Speaker 1 Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm on the edge of my my seat.

Speaker 1 Pardon me.

Speaker 1 Corey, don't try to help your man. Maybe Carlin?

Speaker 1 George Carlin. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 That's what I was waiting for.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck is that? George Carlin. Nah, George Carlin, a nigga the whole thing.
George Carlin is, yeah.

Speaker 2 George Carlin was Chappelle before Chappelle.

Speaker 1 Really? George Carlin. He's alive, right? And he's still alive.

Speaker 1 Wait, is he? No. Look, they don't knock him out.

Speaker 1 Look, they don't even know. Yo, get the fuck out of here.
His last question was 40 years ago. Yes, look what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 He was good for her? Yeah. Yes, in 81.

Speaker 2 But his stand-up is all over fucking TikTok and Instagram.

Speaker 1 You don't even have TikTok.

Speaker 2 I do have TikTok, bitch. Yes, the fuck I do.
I said I don't really use it.

Speaker 1 Stand-up is all up. Yeah, I don't knock it off.
Let me look this up. He died in Old Testament.
George Carroll. Look at the words you can't say.
Was it 10 words you can't say on television?

Speaker 1 He got a couple bits that are really classic.

Speaker 1 Motherfucker talking about George Carlin.

Speaker 1 All right, who's the fourth?

Speaker 1 Who's the fourth? This is getting good. Good boy, isn't it?

Speaker 1 The audience is on the edge of this. I can't really think off the top of my head, but Chappelle, maybe?

Speaker 1 Maybe. Okay.
Because Eddie Murphy's last comedy special was 80, what? 84.

Speaker 1 84?

Speaker 1 He stopped doing comedy. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying.
So

Speaker 1 for you, like

Speaker 1 last. He got a victim.
He had a vintage.

Speaker 1 Although if you know,

Speaker 1 that nigga get his comedians from Jay.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Can you pick people that's still doing comedy?

Speaker 1 You know that.

Speaker 1 Niggas,

Speaker 1 George Garland, and And you cry.

Speaker 1 You got it.

Speaker 1 Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 No, that's his list, man. Come on, man.
That's his list. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 You have a top current three? There is somebody listening to be like. Joe, you have a top current three?

Speaker 1 Top, I wouldn't say. You said current? I have

Speaker 1 current makes it different. Personal.

Speaker 1 Current changes the whole thing. I have my own personal favorites and stuff.

Speaker 1 Are they current? Your personal favorites?

Speaker 1 Chappelle is current. Okay.

Speaker 1 Bill Burr is current. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're naming current comedians, not your top three comedians of all time. It changes the whole entire thing.
Chappelle is in my top three of all time. George Carlin could kick a rock somewhere.

Speaker 1 Nah, never that. No,

Speaker 1 George Carlin's hilarious. So he can still kick a rock somewhere.
I'm not trying to say that he's not a legend and funny, but bye, get out of here.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, who the other two in your top three? You said Chappelle? Chappelle. Oh, I'm not naming it.
Oh, doing the top now. Top three all time.
All time, who's your top three?

Speaker 1 Eddie.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 1 I put Patrice. O'Neill.
I put Patrice in mine. It was short, but

Speaker 1 it was short. I feel you was

Speaker 1 impactful. That's how I feel about Robin Harris.
Short but impactful. And he's in my top three.
Short but impactful. Wow.
So he's my all-time favorite comedian.

Speaker 1 Wow. You don't agree? Top three of all time? No.
This is my list. No.
Yeah. I'm just saying, wow.

Speaker 1 Y'all stay wow about hip-hop choices. I'm wow with your comedy choices.
That's cool. Robin Harris will not not be in my top three.
That's my best. Who's your top three?

Speaker 1 You're going to be in my top eight. Who's your top three?

Speaker 1 Who's your top three? Probably kind of gotta go

Speaker 1 Eddie Pryor and Chappelle for me. Was it Eddie Pryor, Robin Harris?

Speaker 1 You got Robin Harris above

Speaker 1 my favorite choices. I know, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised. I'm expressing surprise.
How about you, Mark? I wouldn't put Robin Harris above. I wouldn't even put Robin Harris above Bernie Mac.

Speaker 1 At all.

Speaker 1 That was what surprised me. I mean, for that style of comedy, if that's your style of comedy, I would have had Bernie higher.
But Eddie would be in my list. Chappelle would be on my list.

Speaker 1 I might go.

Speaker 1 Chris Rock in his prime. Chris Rock.

Speaker 1 Chris Rock in his prime. Actually, Chris Rock replaces Chappelle.
There's too many comedians that I love for me to even have this conversation. And that's what makes it love.
There are way too many.

Speaker 1 Because Bill Burby is right at the precipice. It's a few that are right at that line.
Is Bill Cosby on any y'all's list? He's next.

Speaker 1 I hate Bill Cosby's a piece of human garbage, but he is a top five comedian of all time. Bill Cosby is funny, so.

Speaker 1 Really? He's funny. He's fucking hilarious.
Cosby stand-ups, like the old school shit in the 70s was funny. Yo, Whoopi Goldberg, old school stand-ups, funny as shit.
Like, it's some good stuff.

Speaker 1 That's funny. I mean, Bill Cosby is the template for Kevin Hart in a lot of ways, but in terms of the family style, the family style of storytelling,

Speaker 1 I think Bill Cosby's, I mean, excellent. Red Fox actually is.
We clown it, but Red Fox is another one, top 10 to me. Lindy Bruce, top 10.
Richard Pryor, to me, is upper etch line.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a lot of great comedians, though. And salute to each one of them.
Yes. We do.

Speaker 1 I hate being that guy. No, no, no.
Sorry, you guys. I don't like it.
I'm trying to change. I'm trying to change.
That's your bag. You look at your phone, it's the same show as on.
You're like this.

Speaker 1 I was telling Joe on Spaces last night that,

Speaker 1 hold on, let me just say this.

Speaker 1 That, you know, you make fun of our topics, but you have a plethora of topics in your notes, and you just be going going right past them, just like this.

Speaker 1 I watch you all the time from here, and then you say, You act like you don't know about the topic, then you go to ICE. So tell us about it, and Ice be ready to go in.

Speaker 1 And we were laughing about it last night. So I'm watching you today.
If you do it, I'm going to point it out. You need to start speaking on some shit.
We want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 That phone, whatever you got, has a lot in it.

Speaker 2 I be trying to see for you, but he has the screen protector shit on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's illegal, right?

Speaker 1 That's against the law.

Speaker 1 Trump might change the law back. To do it.
Reading somebody's shit in their phone.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to do anything with the information.

Speaker 1 Are you a phone reader in general? No. Yes.
Yes, she is. Okay, Mel.
Mel, no order. Turn the pot up with some lies.
See it. Let's go.
Nah, let's get back in all the time.

Speaker 2 Like, in terms of when I have a man, do I look at the phone?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if you sit next to someone's couch and you like, looking at the phone. Do you look at Joe's phone, Mel, honestly, because I'm sitting here with his laptop screen?

Speaker 1 The only

Speaker 1 boxes in the closet. No.
Why do we watch?

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 2 That was a long time ago, and that's what taught me: don't go looking for shit that you don't want to see.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 2 And really honestly, the only thing I'm going to be seeing is when you scroll through Instagram for some motivation that you want to hit us with or comedy.

Speaker 1 See, and that's why people shouldn't talk about nothing you do in your phone. They'd be saying something they think is helpful.
Get out of here.

Speaker 1 Okay, fine. All right.
I'm sorry, Flip. I tried.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, god damn it. Anyway,

Speaker 1 Joey Badass. Joey Badass.
Joey Badass.

Speaker 1 We'll get ready to sit down.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Not sorry.

Speaker 1 More conductor.

Speaker 1 More conductor.

Speaker 1 51 Hall Street. 193 Vernon Avenue.
Niggas with attitudes. Mad, I'm bigging up my city.
That's something I had to do. Do a die, home of the gully, where we let laugh fly.
2025 on my bully.

Speaker 1 I know that men lie. Women lie, but Joey don't.
Might delete later. I know damn sure that Joey won't.
Fucking out on all the smoke.

Speaker 1 That's the lie. That's the lie that people were upset about.
A little J. Cole jab.
Why are they upset about that? Mike delete. I really don't understand.

Speaker 1 Like, rappers are going to continue to point, to poke fun at that probably forever. For eternity.
Yeah. Because they're stripping away the rappers' ability to rap and be creative.

Speaker 1 and say some shit with all these sensitive bitch ass emotions.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now. and joey's leaning into it and yeah which i i like me too i like hearing that from him

Speaker 1 i like

Speaker 1 he was flowing he was

Speaker 1 what's wrong with punching up

Speaker 1 nothing in my opinion i respect it nothing's wrong that's one of my favorite things to do is punch up why waste time punching with the equivalent or lesser and he might not think it's up

Speaker 1 Niggas, that's that confident in their in their skill. Like, nigga, you might be up in terms of popularity or whatever, but if we put Pitt in the pad,

Speaker 1 you ain't up.

Speaker 1 He can rap, rap. He could.
He can. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people don't know it. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 don't worry about it. Let me do it.
And I like that he's not doing no internet shit with it. I'm just keep rapping.
YouTube drops, too. I tried to find this on the DSPs and it wasn't there.

Speaker 1 All just YouTube. Nice video, too.
I like this video a lot. But don't bark on me.
I was just saying that most people have J. Cole probably higher on the list than Joey Badass.
I wasn't trying to

Speaker 1 stifle his. I would be one of those people, but I still like hearing this, though.
I like hearing it, and I like it being somebody from New York.

Speaker 1 I think New York is wide open and there for somebody to be aggressive. New York has always thrived when somebody was aggressive with the I'm from New York.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's enough of that going on. I think the West Coast is running around with all their pride.
Atlanta has been having pride. They're mad at the West Coast a little bit now.

Speaker 1 New York has just been kind of silent on the matter. So I love it because all our greats either get taken away from us or make too much money on their first album and want to continue to do music.
But

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, it's over. Or they take the stand.

Speaker 1 It's nuts in New York. Or they're gun charges, oh shit.
They pop somebody and the projects over there. Like New York has been in a rut.

Speaker 1 So if Joey badass want to take a break from the acting shit to get lyrical,

Speaker 1 who the fuck am I? Who the fuck am I to stop on? I don't care who we talking to. Some people said that he should have came back with something to say say toward Ray Vaughn,

Speaker 1 Daylight, and some of the other people that had things to say about him. I don't necessarily agree with that.

Speaker 1 I'm also with rappers ignoring who they think they should be, or who they think should be ignored. Do you think that comes from being afraid to be bested in the situation?

Speaker 1 Because the whole ignore thing, I noticed that even in hip-hop, even in battle rap, like people could, a match could be so perfect, but the person would be like, I don't want to go that direction.

Speaker 1 They'll make a whole bunch of excuse. I'm punching down, then on my level.
They say a lot of fancy words for risk assessment. Risk assessment.

Speaker 1 They use a lot of fancy words. I think all rappers begin to do their own risk assessment.
I think everybody do.

Speaker 1 There was a little daylight jab in this, by the way. So people say that he didn't say nothing.
I don't remember something. I said it on the line.
Cause niggas can't fuck with me.

Speaker 1 We talking about it line for line. The audacity of this nigga, he must be out of his mind.
Haunted by the ghost of Biggie and Pac. I'm them combined.
Spent many years, mind that minds.

Speaker 1 Out of sight and out of mind, now I'm front and line. All the signs saying it's my time.
Swiss old divine. Properly aligned this little light of mine.
Promise I'ma let it shine. Till it leaves me.

Speaker 1 That little light of mine.

Speaker 1 A daylight rough. I got it.
I got it. Well, now that we got the fucking rap genius forensic foul crepe diggers out there, they're going to find a diss even when you didn't mean a diss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Some symbolic meaning by mistake. I used to love when fans did that with my shit.
I ain't go, oh shit, he meant this. I was like, I didn't, but but I'm rolling.

Speaker 1 Sounds good, though. That kind of could work too.
I think.

Speaker 1 I'm the illest.

Speaker 1 Nobody do that shit more than Kendrick fans, bro. That's true.
Word. Nobody.
No, they win. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you can't hate on what somebody got in their bag. Like, if your fan base do that with you as another rapper, I can't sit there and be like, oh, I ain't doing that shit.
That's part of his bag.

Speaker 1 Different levels come with different perks.

Speaker 1 Except for fucking Miss Pac-Man, where as the levels get harder, the ghost time gets shorter and shorter. No, they don't even turn.
Yeah, word. Oh, yeah, sometimes it's hard.
You never got that far.

Speaker 1 Who you talking to? You never got that far. And don't say it again because I'm going to buy Miss Pac-Man and put it on here.
You've been saying that. Hope you know about Pac-Man.

Speaker 1 Why you want to play Monopoly with me no more?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you sound like a broken record. I'm free tonight.
Me too. Y'all did the same thing last Tuesday.
What's up?

Speaker 1 Y'all just talking. Yeah, they did the same thing last Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Now it's your ass.

Speaker 1 That's it. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 I I know your bag. Please do.
Don't fucking my man. This is a bad.
He knows he's my son. He's on the stance, nigga.
Monopoly, that's my son. Dude, I realize that's your thing.

Speaker 1 You just raise shit, talk shit, and then don't do it. Only in the.

Speaker 1 And don't do it.

Speaker 1 And don't do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're just talking right now. I'm just.
You put some racist voice behind the nigga. I've been the only one to follow up with the gems.
I've been the only one to follow up.

Speaker 1 You're the only one that was supposed to follow up with you about space. It's fucking black.

Speaker 2 Whatever happened with the basketball thing, y'all.

Speaker 1 He got hit in the face with a water bottle and threatened to sue Corey. So,

Speaker 1 first of all,

Speaker 1 second, I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1 He knows who he was naming it.

Speaker 1 Or you and Mel been talking together.

Speaker 1 They've been on the phone talking more than just lotto tickets. Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, Mark, I saw that, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, witness. I can vouch.

Speaker 1 Excuse words like, I can vouch, vouch. Vouch.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Joey badass, I'm with it. Sorry,

Speaker 1 I don't have nothing deep on this. I'm with it.
But now when somebody punch back, don't go trying to shoot a new show.

Speaker 1 Right. That's my only thing.
Don't talk about it. When the boomerang come back your way, niggas start talking about, oh, I'm on tour.
I was with my girl. Yo, I'm not even, this is beneath me.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear none of that shit, buddy. I don't think you're going to get it from him.
It sounds like this is his energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he standed it. It sounds like it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think so. And he just beat somebody up in the coke store.
That's all energy. Energy.
And Daniel Leathers. I think he's a voice.
Stop doing that. I think he's a voice.
Stop doing that, bro.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Because the people over there, the other spot,

Speaker 1 they think you're doing that on purpose. Stop.
And it's affected. There's another spot.
DeRuchi, nigga. Oh, see, I only know Daniel.
No, you got to stop doing everything.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I had a full understanding with them. I used my voice for all the wrong things.

Speaker 1 And I had a full understanding with them, and all you kept doing was putting Daniel Leather on me. That was foul.
That's nasty. That was foul.
That's what the Rouchie was.

Speaker 1 And you ain't been in a first since. I was about to say, you can't get your Sherlock anyway.
You can't get your Sherlock. You couldn't get your Sherlock on.
Y'all started wearing them sports jackets.

Speaker 1 They took his joint up.

Speaker 1 Most of the shit fall out of you, bro. All them bullshit.
Proplay. Pro play.
Non-starter.

Speaker 1 Black hawks.

Speaker 1 They don't sell starters anymore anyway. I said non-starter.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Them jackets was non-starter. That's a non-starter short.

Speaker 1 It's all right. I went there the other day.
I did go to Doruchi the other day, and I was hanging out with him, and I was talking about it. Please.
Nobody asked asked about homeboy.

Speaker 1 By who? Please. About my man.
Nobody asked about that.

Speaker 1 Look at me out. Take me.

Speaker 1 I need a jacket.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, let me get your... What's up? I would like to film content for this.
I'll shoot it for the JBN. Let me go get your white fur.
JBN is off until.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, like, I have Poe record me. I want to go get the white fur you never picked up.
Let me get that. No, it's okay, my man.
It's okay. I do need to go get my white fur.

Speaker 1 Nazi. The The same motherfucker.
Who was that at them? Them fucking Griselda niggas at the Bills gang. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 They look fly. Yeah, they look good.

Speaker 1 That's a nice nigga to have a good time. They look good.
That shit gun hat on was. Yeah, yeah.
Gun don't play. Yeah.
Gun looked great.

Speaker 1 All new set of jewelry, too. That's the thing.
A lot of these rappers is running around with

Speaker 1 flip me up. I'm letting y'all rappers know, I make the picture bigger.

Speaker 1 I put two fingers to screen fast.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, that's the 03 Jacobs.
These niggas got the old, old, fuzzy, foggy shit. Yo, it's just a trick.
They go to the diamond district, but then they go to the one across.

Speaker 1 They said they made it to the one across. They act like they're in the popping one.
They in the nasty shit in the diamond district.

Speaker 1 You just walk up in the diamond district still.

Speaker 1 It's some nasty shit in the diamond district. It's bad.
But anyway.

Speaker 1 Gotta get how you gotta get it, I guess. Exactly.
Yo, since we're talking music, man, y'all sent all the Hovengers after me.

Speaker 1 All the, everybody who watched the podcast last week, it was two kinds of people.

Speaker 1 People who were telling me I was 100% right, and then people who were trying to make it seem like I was saying something crazy for talking about Beans staying with Hove

Speaker 1 or being better on a bunch of tracks. And then Beans,

Speaker 1 To me, gave me some vindication this week when he did the interview where he talked about the fact that when him and Jay and Bleak were on the same track, that Jay was writing for Bleak. Right?

Speaker 1 He was saying he was always trying to give him an advantage. And the reason I say that is because that's another reason Hove clearly saw him as competition.
And so he was always trying to

Speaker 1 keep the race tight because he understood how dope Beanie Siegel was. And I think in this room, because there's such an anti-Philly bias and so much Philly hate in this room, we love Philly.

Speaker 1 We love Philly.

Speaker 1 Beans is fire. But

Speaker 1 for starters, that was your vindication. Yes.
Well, one, you started wrong, though. Because initially, you told us Beans was washing hole.

Speaker 1 And four seconds later, I took that back. But that's where it started.
It wasn't no anti-Philly or nothing like that. I was like, whoa, that statement you made was a little crazy.
It wasn't crazy.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It wasn't crazy.
So then, once you said he either kept up or bested him on some records, you're like, oh, no, no. You agree? You agree with that statement?

Speaker 1 Do you agree with that statement? That he kept up or bested him? Yes. On every record.
Kept up or bested. Yes.
No, not on every record. No, we did.
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 talking about him,

Speaker 1 because I hear people saying he's snitching, right? That basically, if somebody's writing for somebody, you can't come out and say, yo, he wrote for him.

Speaker 2 I was going to ask, what's the, for clarification on the difference?

Speaker 1 My thing is, what Mark said was his vindication, and your rationale behind it is crazy to me. Yo, if me, you, and Joe rap,

Speaker 1 but y'all rap better than me, and we all crew. Someone give me a little bar or two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why the fuck would y'all want us to all be a team and a crew and putting out a project and y'all just belittling me on the raps and i can't keep up with y'all but that don't mean that joe writing my shit because he

Speaker 1 is is looking at you like a threat he writing my shit because he want the team to come in and represent i i think another way to look at it is i'm trying to keep you in your place so if we assume that if me you and joe is a rap crew right and we assume joe is the best far-fetched but let's assume joe is the best

Speaker 1 and then it's me and you right and i think

Speaker 1 you better than me right but i think me but what i'm saying is i gotta really i'm trying to compete with joe and joe really trying to compete with me. You know, actually, this actually works out.

Speaker 1 In real life, it would be y'all two, right? Y'all just. And you're from Philly, so it works out.
Yeah, it actually works out perfectly.

Speaker 1 If Joe starts slipping raps, like, yo, I want to make sure you keep up with Ish. I want to make sure Ish stay in.

Speaker 1 That's the idea is that he's on the low, he's trying to keep beans and bleak in the same. All right, now let me.

Speaker 1 Now, hold on.

Speaker 1 That's my interpretation. I'm telling you, that's my reason.
All right, now, what about if I'm Jay and y'all are both my artists?

Speaker 1 I want y'all to look good. True.
That's it. And if I know I got a right shit, I'm eating off of this.
Okay, cool. Why not somebody who can rap? This is my man.
I got my man.

Speaker 1 He's my man from home.

Speaker 1 I just, I never liked it. I never liked it.
I mean, he wrote. The thing is, first of all, Jay admitted that he wrote for Bleak since day one.
He's talked about it from literally from the first album.

Speaker 1 Coming to age. Coming to age, he wrote.
And part two,

Speaker 1 that he wrote that too. So at some point, and according to Beans, if he's writing all your hits and all your best verses.
That's not all your hits and best verses. One.
I said, according to Beans.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying, I don't know if it's true or not. But if that is true, then at some point, it's like,

Speaker 1 and at that time, and at that time, if you didn't keep up, we saw what happened to H Money Bags on Hot 97, how he just, when he was on there, how,

Speaker 1 you know, shout out to him, but it was no longer at that time. You have to keep up with the who is who and make sure you sound good, or it'll look bad on your team.
I guess.

Speaker 1 I don't think him writing for bleak is, I don't think he wrote for him completely, but I don't think him giving him balls was anything far-fetched.

Speaker 1 I still think that's an issue, what being said, because whole writing writing for coming to age one and two is those are back and forth records.

Speaker 1 And a lot of times when two artists do a back and forth record, one usually writes more, if not the whole shit.

Speaker 1 Especially if one is an experienced rapper and the other one really isn't. I'm going to write my verse.
I'm going to write your verse.

Speaker 1 I'm going to show you how to do your verse so we can do this track together. That's not the same thing as your biggest hits that I'm not even on.
Or your biggest records,

Speaker 1 he wrote those two. Here's why it's not snitching.
That's different conversations. Here's why it's not snitching me.
One, again, Jay already talked about it.

Speaker 1 Two, Dame Dash two weeks earlier said, yo, he wrote for bleak. Right? Dame Dash literally said the same thing two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 So if I ain't, if it's already out there, it's like y'all were saying to me about Luther in a second. Like, if it's already out there, then me saying something about it is different.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? No, it's not. How? Y'all was a snitching if people already know.
Because y'all both rats. It could be two rats, nigga.
The fuck you talking about, right?

Speaker 1 It don't got to be one rat. If y'all both rat it, y'all both rat it.
And nobody confirmed it. So if you got up there, it could have been my word versus his word.

Speaker 1 Now you get up there and say, nah, it's two raps.

Speaker 1 The CEO saying it to me is a little different than another rapper saying it. You get what I'm saying? Like, like if another rapper said, I'm like, that's just his word versus me.
You said it.

Speaker 1 Did Ho say I wrote the coming to age records or did he say I wrote bleak records? He said he wrote coming to age records. Okay.
So then

Speaker 1 Dad said he wrote Bleak's records. Again, I'm not saying it's true or not.
I don't know. I'm just saying, but yo, do me a favor.
It's right. go downstairs and fire up the delorean

Speaker 1 if you start the delorean i think we can bring this info back and make a change

Speaker 1 in how history was written like for real what y'all think uh uh yeah i don't know do you hear you that could have future do you hear these they will get trapped and start having a hole and neither one gonna let it go uh In closing, Bleak got too many hits for anybody to say something to him about any of it.

Speaker 1 Like, a bleak set list is a bleak set list.

Speaker 1 There is no disrespect that you could put on Bleak's name, and this probably won't be the last that you hear of stories from people that have had a falling out with

Speaker 1 all things Rockefeller. Yeah.
Talking about the ones that didn't have the fallout.

Speaker 1 Is there a rapper who could write something for you that you would take if it was dope enough? No.

Speaker 1 A lyric? Yeah, like if Hove called you and said, yo, I got this. Yo, do this track on me.
I wrote the bars for you. Is Hove producing me? Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, Oh, then, yeah, but it wouldn't be a lyric.

Speaker 1 Like, he's done that before. Hey, the beat is doing this, so try to catch this flow.
I think the hook needs. Rappers need help.
I'm sorry, I mean the whole verse.

Speaker 1 Not a bar, the whole verse. And not a flow, not a pocket.
No. Words.
No.

Speaker 1 I'm just curious. I was just curious.
There's no, because he does.

Speaker 1 I'm the wordsmith. Yeah, and that's what Hove does, what you said, as far as like the pocket.

Speaker 1 That's what producers do. Yeah, if there's somebody that can help you, like I'm from rappers helping each other, damn it, but just not with

Speaker 1 Royce is the king of that shit, of hearing something in the beat that nobody else is gonna hear and just giving you a different way to attack something.

Speaker 1 To me, it's the same as ball players helping athletes helping athletes. But words,

Speaker 1 I can do the words. Tell me about where you want the direction of the song, the hook, the pocket.
The words I can come up with.

Speaker 1 I don't need help.

Speaker 1 And I'm not knocking nobody that

Speaker 1 takes either.

Speaker 1 That takes. Today they got entire writing camps where rappers are getting together and helping each other with the writing.
I think that infiltrated even battle rap a bunch of years ago.

Speaker 1 So however you get it is how you get it.

Speaker 1 If a room of five of us can come up with something that's going to generate seven and eight figures over the course of the next 30 and 40 years, then my pride shouldn't get in the way of that.

Speaker 1 is what I'm saying. But I'm one of the best rappers to ever live.
I didn't need help with the words. And if my man took me out to projects projects and said, yo, come with me.

Speaker 1 I want to change your life. And I'm going to just pin some shit for you.
And you just got to say it with some emphasis.

Speaker 1 I ain't mad at that. Yeah, there's not enough of that in the music business where you trust someone.
I'm going to come up. Hold my own way.
What? Yo, there's some people

Speaker 1 that have more expertise in what we're doing. They got more experience, more knowledge.
You could just trust that person and give something a shot. The music business is all about shots.

Speaker 1 So try some shit. Same, I mean, it could, and that pause, that kind of landed on me, pause.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Because, like,

Speaker 1 before coming up here, I had my own podcast that was doing good, right? And then

Speaker 1 coming here,

Speaker 1 I learned so many things about the business from Joe. And just watching things.
You're bleak.

Speaker 1 I'm not bleak. No, no, no.
I never watch the fucking mouth.

Speaker 1 Listen, for the first two years, years, for the first two years, it was extremely hard for me to take any form of criticism. But I started to watch shit a little bit.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I started to implement it how I do business. It happens, man.

Speaker 1 There's too many niggas out there, separate from this, there's too many niggas out there that's just cool or want to be the boss of nothing instead of partners with everything.

Speaker 1 That's real shit. Real shit.
That is so real.

Speaker 1 You realize,

Speaker 1 it's like a slap in the face. Like, damn.
And

Speaker 1 I'm so headstrong. So as long as I saw the numbers, what I thought, nigga, I'm doing, I don't give a fuck.
I'm, you know, what it is. And then coming here, it's like, ah, okay.

Speaker 1 It's a whole nother world.

Speaker 1 I hate how it sounds sonically. I hate it all the rah-rah, talking on top of each other.
It's just little things that I picked up on how he just structures the business of podcasting.

Speaker 1 I found myself when I went back to do it again, and it got...

Speaker 1 I guess more traction or better traction, better comments and stuff like that because it's like, y'all niggas is talking on top of each other, or slow down, or do this. or do that.

Speaker 1 You started producing? Oh, yeah, I started producing, yeah. And I learned it up here.
If you left that shit with me, it would have just been some. That's what life is about.
Yeah, learning.

Speaker 1 So people make fun of that, but it's okay to come and partner with somebody and a nigga that's willing to teach you. Yo, I watch it.
It gets a little frustrating, right?

Speaker 1 Because you have a nigga like this, what's the word, meticulous?

Speaker 1 Who watches everything and he criticizes. It's frustrating.
It puts pressure on you if you're not comfortable. But it's also a good thing because he'll put me.

Speaker 1 I saw that. Try to do it like this.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 he's not going online or going anywhere to take the credit for it. So you just, you know.

Speaker 1 There's a humility to that. I was thinking, as you were talking about ghostwriting, you bleak.
You definitely, you definitely bleak. You're bleak.

Speaker 1 There's nothing bleak.

Speaker 1 If you're starting that stupid narrative. Not Memphis bleak.

Speaker 1 Nashville bleak. Queens bleak.
Queens bleak. Queens bleak.
That's nasty.

Speaker 1 If they start that shit and get online and be tight. Just remember, and I'm going to come at you and get at y'all.
That's what I'm saying. No,

Speaker 1 you just got to stay humble with it when you get that support and when you get to another level. I ghostwrite books for people, including like for celebrities, politicians, et cetera.
And

Speaker 1 sometimes they forget that they didn't write the shit. Like their ego gets big enough.
Oh, shit. Like, nigga, you didn't write this.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They start going around giving people writing advice, doing writing workshops. You know what I mean? That's hate, though.
That's hate. That's hate.
That's hate. That's hate, Ma.
That's not hate.

Speaker 1 That's hate. How is that hate?

Speaker 2 Maybe they learned from the process, like he said.

Speaker 1 If Joe Button writes all my verses and I come out with an album, and then the next week I'm leading it at a rapper's camp,

Speaker 1 how much they can't pay. Yep.
Oh, you're talking about the money? I don't give a fuck about about the money. It's the ego of it.
How much you can't pay.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you care about the money a little more. All right, you know what? Then I'm here.

Speaker 1 I was like, yo, your thesis statement is supposed to be. You crazy.
And it's like, nigga, you didn't. Yeah, don't even start.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Glenn Miller really had a fucked-up run after that whole if you're reading this, it's too late. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 He had a really

Speaker 1 not to depress you off, but I think about it as you was talking about it. Like,

Speaker 1 I would want to hurt somebody still.

Speaker 1 Some things happen in the music business. I wouldn't have totally be over yet.
Tell me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't lose his leg. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Yes, he did. Yes.

Speaker 1 He lost his leg. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He lost his leg or something. He lost his credibility.
Then them boys went and got on him. They jumped on him.
Do you think that he had a hard time? He had a rough run. So he did.

Speaker 1 Basically, Joe, with that situation. After I just gave you all my slaps.
And your name kind of was like mud after that. Like, even when he tried to now go out on his own.
And work with other people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would. They was like, nah.
But wait, okay, so let me just get, you know, because you guys are here. This business is.

Speaker 1 We're talking about him coming out and out and that he wrote some of the records, right? No, he didn't come out and write and say shit, though. It wasn't him.
It wasn't his fault.

Speaker 1 He didn't come out and say, hey, I wrote that. So why would it fall bad on him if somebody exposed it? You talk about when Meek exposed it, right? When it got exposed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So why would he fall in writing?

Speaker 1 Why would it make him look bad if he didn't say anything? It should have done. It should have done.

Speaker 1 That's why he's not going to be able to do it. Because you don't want to be associated with it.

Speaker 1 You think the world knows that? He didn't say it? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think those that paid attention know that he didn't say it. He hasn't really said much of anything.
It don't matter that he didn't say it, did say it.

Speaker 1 None of that matters. The particulars don't matter.
All you remember is

Speaker 1 he had a spark when you started.

Speaker 1 Whatever the reason, shit went totally awry afterward, and I lost my leg. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Quinn Miller.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Quinn Miller.

Speaker 1 I will keep my slaps.

Speaker 1 No, you won't. But the slaps wouldn't hit the same coming from him.
No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't keep yourself.

Speaker 1 And you just said something totally different. You would not keep your slaps.
I'm keeping my slaps. You could be the boss of nothing or a part of anything.

Speaker 1 How about I say you keep your slaps and only you and your people's hero.

Speaker 1 And you're making no money off of them.

Speaker 1 Be the nice. I thought you got your slaps though.
Be the nicest nigga locally. They ain't even slaps.

Speaker 1 And they ain't slaps. I believe in my slaps.

Speaker 1 I believe in my slaps. Okay.
After a while. Bet on yourself.
Cool. Bet on yourself.
Believe in yourself. If the slap could do that for him, then I'll take 30% of that doing it for me.

Speaker 1 I don't need to have, his fate ain't mine. There you go.

Speaker 1 What's for me?

Speaker 1 Right. If you can't speak to what it is, you'll never know because you chose option number one.

Speaker 1 You chose option number one. We don't know how long he was choosing option number one.
I'm not even talking about him no more.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about having some shit, believing in yourself, having a record, having a hard time with it because you can't find backing and funding.

Speaker 1 And then somebody with a name and a deal and a crowd come and then you fold. Cool.
Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 Some niggas manage to make it with their shit when they go the other way.

Speaker 1 Percentages are low. Yeah.
And a lot of niggas got life to juggle. True.
So it's like, all right, yeah, cool. I can bet on myself, but I got a baby.

Speaker 1 I got this. I got this.

Speaker 1 And this could be the break. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, I've been betting on myself, and here comes a break. Let me.

Speaker 1 Do y'all care at all about the new footage in the Meg Tori

Speaker 1 police step out the car shit that came out recently? No,

Speaker 1 she stepped on the glass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what it's saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no new information in that.

Speaker 1 That's about it. I didn't think so either, but the internet seems to think that that's a gotcha moment.
Because the internet is ridiculous. It's stupid.

Speaker 1 And they're easily duped.

Speaker 1 That footage isn't new. That information isn't new.
She told the doctor that. This is not new information.
People just really want to believe that she's lying.

Speaker 1 And so every time a new video comes, every time a new piece of information comes out the world goes upside down and that small group at the twitter people talk about it but ain't nothing different

Speaker 1 and be and to be fair like she's lied a lot so because of that there are people looking for the gotcha you lied here moment yeah

Speaker 1 that's all it is i don't see i personally i don't this is i don't want to hear about it no more it's over and done to me that's how i feel unless something new comes out and something like a game changer on either side then i don't care he let him do his time you know let Meg move on with her life and keep it and keep it pushing man I agree how hard of a time do y'all think Mark Andrews is having right now oh I feel bad for him

Speaker 1 I feel bad for him and would y'all be able to deal with that no it's a different I would definitely delete all the apps off my phone you have to change my phone number he probably don't come outside for like a week a week

Speaker 1 you'll see him at OTAs

Speaker 1 Like, that's hard, my nigga. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then they pulling up the footage of it happening before with the same type of play. Two-point conversion.
He dropped it against Pittsburgh. Like,

Speaker 1 yeah. Yeah, but he ain't dropped the ball since, what, 2019?

Speaker 1 Tell me what type of teammates y'all are. I'm Mark Andrews.
I just dropped the game-tying two-point conversion. What is y'all's energy toward me as I take the long walk back to the sideline?

Speaker 1 I'm gonna give you a little hug. I'm gonna hug him.
Yeah, I'm gonna hug him. I'm gonna give you a hug.
Give me a hug. You're gonna tell the truth? Yeah.
And that right there, in that moment,

Speaker 1 I might, we cool once I cool off.

Speaker 1 But right there, nigga, no.

Speaker 2 Wait, did he drop it like Deshaun Jackson dropped it at the one-yard line? Or did he just

Speaker 2 get knocked out of his hand?

Speaker 2 I'm trying to figure this part out.

Speaker 1 He dropped the pass. Leave it alone.
Okay. Nobody knocked it off.

Speaker 1 He just dropped the easy play. He caught it.
It was like this, and he just dropped it.

Speaker 1 Andy fumbled earlier in the game that set up the whole need for the two-point conversion, which was really the worst more. That was the display.
That was the biggest play.

Speaker 1 That was the play of the game. If it wasn't.
That was the biggest play of the the game um

Speaker 1 i think that in in sports like dog everybody throughout the duration of that game we all up and we all made mistakes yeah so you can't count really

Speaker 1 like it's just

Speaker 1 part of sports

Speaker 1 it's just a part of sports i hear

Speaker 1 i never believe that yeah we up we all made mistakes but we got back we got to this point we made it here drove down the field scored the touchdown all we need is the two ran the perfect play the pass was right there it hit you in both hands it's like mark with the water bottle wow and you dropped didn't have to happen

Speaker 1 are hot in that moment i it's his human emotion right there like dog this was our trip to

Speaker 1 so the overtime that possibly win this

Speaker 1 ice yeah yeah of course it did freeze in the snow and the up part is if you look at the ravens page they had him out they you know they put their little clips out and before the game he's running with the little sleeveless shit on oh the snow is no problem for mark andrews

Speaker 1 there you go that all always seems to backfire by the way Yeah, I'm the opposite as a teammate. I wouldn't be mad in the game.

Speaker 1 As a teammate, I was always like the person that would hug the guy, talk to him. After the game, I'm thinking about that for the next

Speaker 1 till training camp. I'm mad as shit, and I probably want to get him cut.
I want to do harm to him.

Speaker 1 But in that moment, I'm trying to win the game, and I'm trying to be a good teammate. But it would eat away at me for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 And I know it's going to eat away at him for the rest of the year. He's the exact opposite for me.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I get it.
I get it.

Speaker 1 Because in the game, you can't be petty. You can't be.

Speaker 1 We're still at war, and we're still trying to win. Oh, the game's over.
The game is over.

Speaker 1 That's fair enough. But I'm still in war mode.
Like, even in the locker room afterward, I'm still not like, nigga, what the fuck? I hate people that do that shit. I hate that shit.

Speaker 1 If I miss the game winning free throw, I don't want nobody in the locker room like, yo, what the fuck? Like, talk to me about that tomorrow. But right then, nah, we still a family.

Speaker 1 But you won't get them cut in six months. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I'm right. I'm doing the right behavior.
I'm just saying that's how I feel. Got you.
Yeah, yeah. It's fucked up, but that's how I feel.
How do you feel?

Speaker 1 About which part?

Speaker 1 Mark Andrews shit. Like, how would you feel? If you're Mark Andrews, or if I'm a teammate, no, no, you're him.
You'd likely be Mark Andrews. No, I'm not the teammate.
Oh, shit. I feel horrible.

Speaker 1 I feel horrible.

Speaker 1 Again, I think a lot of people are watching that aren't football players. I mean, the pass was a little underthrown.
He was throwing it on the run. It's a slippery ball.

Speaker 1 Like, you're going backwards for it. It's tough.
I get it. That I'm a pro, so I'm expected to make this catch.

Speaker 1 I also don't think it was the simplest catch to make. And listen, niggas fucked up during the game.
That's how we got in this position. So, as a team, we take it as a team.
That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 We do take it as a team. For every missed block, every miss

Speaker 1 the phone.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about him like when he gets away from his teammates and people that are

Speaker 1 in that state of mind. When he just goes to the local bar or the Macy's or something, I can see him happening all the time.
Oh, yeah, the gas station, all that shit, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're public enemy.

Speaker 1 You can't get gas no more. You're public enemy number one.
You gotta get an EV. What's some shit?

Speaker 1 You gotta go. You gotta go black jersey.
You gotta block jersey. You side of Jersey to get your gas, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're gonna hit your ass.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's crazy. Yeah, it's rough.
It's rough. But again,

Speaker 1 that's what they sign up for. Yo, everybody make mistakes.
True. Even though you don't want to hear that shit when you put your head on the pillow at night.

Speaker 1 I'm going to see some house, some big, crazy Batman-looking house in Connecticut. this week.
Oh, yeah? Really?

Speaker 1 Is that the move, Connecticut, you think?

Speaker 1 No, I never thought about actually

Speaker 1 residing in Connecticut. I just thought the house looked so amazing that you kind of just got to go.
Old school, old school.

Speaker 1 It was built in 1990, but it looked like the design of it and the

Speaker 1 structure of it, I'll share with you, but it just looks unbelievable. So I'm just going to lay some eyes on it.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I could live

Speaker 1 over there.

Speaker 1 In Connecticut.

Speaker 1 There got to be some tax incentives. I was going to say, what are the taxes like in Connecticut?

Speaker 1 Plenty of tax incentives. Plenty of tax incentives.
WWE is in Connecticut. NBC is in Connecticut.
That's what I did for the spring and shit. They're not as high.
Nowhere near as high as New Jersey.

Speaker 1 They're not as high as we are. Nowhere near as high as New Jersey, number one.
And I ain't going to hold you.

Speaker 1 I just looked at my whatever tax I had to pay to New Jersey, like the New Jersey tax, like the state. Could you work here?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nigga.

Speaker 1 It's high.

Speaker 1 That's an understatement. Yeah, like we're in the top three.

Speaker 1 That's an understatement. I can see why niggas getting the fuck out of here.
We're in the top three. Y'all better pay y'all.
Shit, y'all work here, too. That's why I hate this state, man.

Speaker 1 Everything is so fucking expensive. Taxes, property taxes, income to everything, man.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Everything except Gay Dog. New Jersey will get you the fuck up out of here.
I'm going to keep it. I get it.
No, it's bad. Let me get you out of here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why we do this and stay here? Not to localize.

Speaker 1 Nah, because you, you, you.

Speaker 1 Why we don't stand stand up for ourselves?

Speaker 1 For real. Why we don't move somewhere or just go live in a house with our families, our kids.

Speaker 1 Find an island. Fear the unknown.

Speaker 1 You know what you know. True.
It's the fear of the unknown. You miss your little sandwich spots and shit.
Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, don't walk down that block.

Speaker 1 Or you know the niggas down there, so you can walk down that block. Like, it's just literally the fear of the unknown.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's that.

Speaker 1 A lot of times it's just, like, I told y'all when I moved out of the state, you don't know what it's like living. It's not even a fear of it.
It's just you have this is your norm. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, you have no community set up anywhere else.

Speaker 1 Not, I'm talking about in terms of what we pay here.

Speaker 1 Like, until I moved out of New Jersey, I didn't even realize I was paying high rec

Speaker 1 because I'm so used to it. This is just the norm.
So a lot of the shit we pay for here, you might hear it's hot. You have been other places.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, not now because the internet is more prevalent. Everybody is different when you're.
Dude, they're showing houses in Texas for 280 grand, 300 grand.

Speaker 1 The houses look like a Batman house. So if you was curious, you'd be like, word, I could get that for that.
I'm gone. Nigga,

Speaker 1 they got shit that's in North that they showing apartments. And you see the price, it's like, whoa.
And then you realize where it's at.

Speaker 1 All them shits high.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about in terms of the area. It still ain't as high as the area.
So if you see some of them houses, and then you go look, oh, wait, this is fucking an hour outside of whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I really believe a little Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That shit sounds like Fool's Gold.
Yeah, I'm good. That's why I hate Jersey.
That's literally why I hate this place because I got all the burden and I don't get none of the community.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know nobody.

Speaker 1 I don't know these hoods. Couldn't go to Disney on ice.
Don't get invited to Disney on ice. Can't go to Kings.

Speaker 1 Nigga,

Speaker 1 I'm about to have my pitch up in Kings, man, as much as I'm in. You got to go? No, no, not Uber.
I'm talking about Mark. Look, pull up and walk inside.
You don't do that. Brutal Grill.

Speaker 1 But you're going to have a voice note on a walk inside. Y'all let me get a number seven.
What are you talking about? They know who I am when I call. So all I I got to do is go up in there.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. I'm good.
I just joined the basketball league in Jersey just to find like people because I don't know nobody. Nigga, I've invited you out 17 times.
You have.

Speaker 1 You're the only person to talk about. Yeah, but the ish invite is.

Speaker 1 You outside?

Speaker 1 That's not true. It'll be like 10 p.m.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 But he was like, he was like, I'll text Mark and be like, yo, what's up? What you doing? Yo, what are you doing? No, no.

Speaker 1 What are you doing when? What are you doing today? Right.

Speaker 1 Look, I'm married with you. I can't.
No, time out. It's five o'clock.

Speaker 1 It's five o'clock. Don't listen to him.
It's five o'clock. This nigga be like, yo, I'm in the conference in Cleveland.
And tomorrow I gotta go to Philly. That's the next day.
I gotta go to Utah.

Speaker 1 And then that's what he tried to act booked and busy. Yo,

Speaker 1 I ain't hitting that nigga in the middle of the night. I got that nigga at 5 o'clock in the daytime.
But if you hit me on a Wednesday and say, what are you doing Friday?

Speaker 1 I was going to say, I can make that happen. I don't know what I'm doing Friday.

Speaker 1 And that's the difference between the point of making a plan.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 He doesn't plan.

Speaker 1 Yes, he does.

Speaker 2 He planned to go to fucking Malcolm on Ice when we had the goddamn podging.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't. I didn't plan that.
And what he planned for his significant other is like my girl bought the tickets. What I'm saying is, he was busy.

Speaker 1 If I hit my man on a Friday night and be like, yo, what you doing? It's five o'clock. And he said, yo, I'm in Utah.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm supposed to do. Mark, listen, you got to remember.
Even though he makes it look good with all his black, white power shit he got going on, like shit in the house.

Speaker 1 It's a structure, nigga.

Speaker 1 He could only get out. He don't know in real time.
Oh, when he out, he out. Hey, yo, I'm about to take the garbage out.

Speaker 1 I'm about to

Speaker 1 bring him to the actual. Why are you taking the garbage out with your clothes on? That's funny, son.
I'm about to go outside. Nah, nah.

Speaker 1 That's all.

Speaker 1 Bitch is in with that shit. Okay, somebody here seems like they need our help.
Okay, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Part of the show.

Speaker 1 Charles. What's up, Charles? What's up, Charles? Chuck.
Hey, JBP. What's happening? Hey, buddy.
I've been a fan of the show for years, and I had a life change that I could use some advice on.

Speaker 1 I am 27 and I recently became a first-time dad to a baby girl. Girl dad.
Girl dad. Congratulations.
I had always said I wanted a boy because raising a boy was more in my comfort zone.

Speaker 1 But unlike Joe, I don't make men. You goddamn right.

Speaker 1 Me and my girl, who are living together and engaged, often have conversations about differences between raising a girl versus raising a boy.

Speaker 1 She feels that our daughters should be able to go out and experience the world, but my views on the differences between boys and girls has me more reserved with what I am willing for my daughter to get involved in.

Speaker 1 I've spent some time outside, so I know what it's like out there for young girls with friendships, dating, the workplace, etc.

Speaker 1 I also know what it's like to be a young man that can move outside. Speaking to the girl dads out there, Ice, Ish, Mark, Flip, Corey, Bishop.

Speaker 1 Joe, just for a parent perspective, what approaches do you guys take to raising your daughters?

Speaker 1 If you have thought about this at all, how can I allow my daughter to see the world without seeing the world?

Speaker 1 Joe and Mel can add something to this from Joe's general parent perspective and Mel having grown up without a dad.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. Not from being a girl.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn.

Speaker 1 Why would you read that, yo? Drive-by, Jesus.

Speaker 1 Fuck Chuck.

Speaker 1 Y'all carry on. I don't think he was trying to be a dick.
Okay. He did read.
Well, it read dick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It read Richard. It reads.
Man. It read Richard.

Speaker 2 I didn't grow up without my father, Chuck.

Speaker 1 Go on.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure if you guys have already covered this. I know there have been parenting talks in the pod before.
Appreciate any advice and keep the energy high throughout 2025. Thanks.

Speaker 2 Chuck, just throw a fucking chastity belt on her because that's what it fucking sounds like you want to do.

Speaker 2 Lock that shit up.

Speaker 1 You know it's hard until she's 30. Chuck,

Speaker 1 like, my daughter turns five next week. And my thing with her is communication.
Like,

Speaker 1 I have, even now, my daughter's not afraid to tell me some shit. Like, we talk.

Speaker 1 She's texting when she's not with me. So, I think you just need to have that openness

Speaker 1 so that your child isn't afraid of you. Your child isn't afraid to talk to you.
Your child isn't afraid to let you know what's going on. Because kids are sneaky.
They're going to do shit.

Speaker 1 So you can't protect them from the world. Yeah.
You really can't. Agreed.
I learned it too late, Chuck. I learned it too late, man.
Well, not too late, but my daughter is about to be 16.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 now, you know, I try to have an open communication, but...

Speaker 1 I realize that, you know, like I agree with Ayes, you can't protect them from the world. But I don't play that shit, nigga.
Nigga, I'm going to try my best. I'm going to go down the swing.

Speaker 1 I got the old school in me, nigga. I got Aunt Jemima in me, nigga.
I'm not going down like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, when it comes to my daughter, listen, there's certain rules and regulations that I put out there that I expect her to follow.

Speaker 1 Like what?

Speaker 1 Following rules in the house. I mean, what's different for your daughter than your son, I mean?

Speaker 1 It's a trap. No, it's not.
I can say it.

Speaker 1 It is totally a trap. It's a trap.
And me saying it, it's still not going to change the outcome. Well, it's not going to change the outcome.
You know.

Speaker 1 well, it is a trap. You don't think there should be any difference, Mark?

Speaker 1 Come on, I'll feed into it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to play the game. I think there should be differences.
What, like what?

Speaker 1 But not.

Speaker 1 So everybody should be treated equally, but everybody's not the same.

Speaker 1 So there are things that I have to think about specifically for girls that I don't think about for boys, but I always try my best to think about, like, am I doing this because it's the safest choice or am I doing this just because she's a girl?

Speaker 1 Well, it's both for me.

Speaker 1 I'll give you an example. So, my daughter, when she was living with me, would have to walk, she would have to walk three or four blocks to get to the house.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of sexual predators in the block. If she were a boy, I would let her walk the four blocks because I would feel safe that my son could walk the four blocks without harm.

Speaker 1 I don't feel that she could walk those four blocks. So, I'm treating her differently, but not because I actually don't think it's safe.
That's the kind of shit I'm clear.

Speaker 1 You didn't clear the whole block?

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 2 But you know that sexual predators like boys as well as girls, too, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but typically the bridge where I was living in Germantown they weren't jumping boys. They were jumping girls.
You know what I mean? It just wasn't a thing.

Speaker 1 And I feel I like my son's chance to defend himself. Your name ain't Karen.

Speaker 1 Let me say something. Can I say something real quick? Because I just thought of something.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you're a strict parent,

Speaker 1 you tend to protect the girls more because...

Speaker 1 The girls, if you're strict, the girls will go outside and look for

Speaker 1 that type of

Speaker 1 whatever, whatever man, predatory men out there will do, they will look for that in a man. I can't really explain it.
It's crazy. But

Speaker 1 if you're a strict parent, you have to over-protect your daughter.

Speaker 1 To me, I think y'all do that.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you get to. You can protect your daughters, yo.

Speaker 1 Stop, man.

Speaker 1 If you be doing that shit, and that's how I be messing up there with flippy sounding stupid because you cut off men's shit. Stop.
But I wasn't the only person. God overprotect your daughter.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. My son is fine.
Nigga, they could do it. Nico could do it running around.
Prisons can't do it because I said so. And see, that's the problem to me.

Speaker 1 But I think what Mark said just feeds into everybody's point.

Speaker 1 He said, Yo, I'm parenting my daughter and my son differently based on the fear. Yeah, he keeps doing it.
He agrees, and then he tries to act like he ain't agreeing. I never said I didn't disagree.

Speaker 1 All I did was ask, do you treat him differently? It was just a question. I didn't say I disagreed at all.
I didn't give a position.

Speaker 1 Y'all just assumed that I was going to be different than y'all on this.

Speaker 1 But there are things where we probably do differ. For example, I wouldn't tell my son that he could have a boyfriend/slash girlfriend at a different age than my daughter.
You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like I would say if the age is 16, the age of 16, I don't care who you are.

Speaker 1 If you can go to the party as a boy, you can go to the party as a girl. There are some things though, again, in terms of safety that I would be thinking about.

Speaker 1 It changes how you parent

Speaker 1 each based on just that fear. So if I'm scared of my son going, I'm not scared of my son going on a date with a girl.
at 16. I'm fearful that my 16-year-old daughter is going on a date with a boy.

Speaker 1 So it's going to change how I'm parenting each particular situation. And not just that, knowing your kid.

Speaker 1 If you got a kid that's easily impressionable or follow the leader type, you know you're going to have to be on them about certain shit. They succumb to peer pressure easier.

Speaker 1 Then you have other kids that stand in a shit. And all right, I could kind of let them, I know he's going to do his thing.
We fronting, yo. I'm not fronting.
Not you. Oh.

Speaker 1 Nigga, we scared for our daughters because we know how we was when we was young. Exactly.
And that's what I try to police myself. Like, yo, fam, we know how we were.

Speaker 1 We know what we was out here doing. We know what our homeboys was doing.
We know what locker room talk is like. We know what studio talk is like.

Speaker 1 You don't want your daughter being the subject of the locker room talk. And see, I know how to.
She can just date one guy and

Speaker 2 she can still be the talk of the locker room.

Speaker 1 And that's the kind of stuff I try to tell you. And if you're not monitoring your son properly, then you are inflicting that same harm on multiple people's daughters.
Yep. True.
That makes sense. And

Speaker 1 that's the kind of shit I'm always trying to say to myself. Am I doing this for the right reason? And there's no perfect way to parent, but that's the shit I think about.
For example, like sex, right?

Speaker 1 uh i don't

Speaker 1 a lot of times we tell you know our son 15 16 having sex nobody's tripping the girls you got to protect your virginity you got to save your even calling it virginity is a whole thing right that and and i don't i don't want her to feel like it's that high stakes wait is it you're calling the virgin

Speaker 1 that's let's

Speaker 1 okay that's a whole other conversation but the idea that Because we tend to don't do that for women. Like there's this thing that you have that once you lose it, you have less value anymore, right?

Speaker 1 You're not clean anymore. Nobody's ever talking about a boy's virginity.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 He's a virgin, right? I mean, we use it to tease each other, but in general, like, it's a thing that women have that they can

Speaker 1 that they can lose. So, because dude, that's I'm answering Chuck.
So, I'm saying, like, don't make your don't make your daughter feel like sex is the highest stakes thing in the world.

Speaker 1 That if she does it, she's fucked up for life. Because if she, if she fucks the wrong dude, I had sex with the wrong dude early,

Speaker 1 you can make other choices later, but if you feel like it was so high stake, you already lost it, it's fucked up, it's over.

Speaker 1 Those are the kind of things you can do to make your daughter feel different. And so, I always tried to have those conversations.
Like, look, wait to have sex because it's not healthy.

Speaker 1 It's not a good choice. You are not capable of having sex at a young age.

Speaker 1 You.

Speaker 1 Was that funny? That's what I'm kidding. Am I missing it?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I know my child's emotional well-being. Like, you can't do it.
Other people's kids, some of them can.

Speaker 1 I could. It wasn't a problem for me, but I know other people couldn't.
So, like, I said. I'm doing that journalist thing where you can't tell when people have fallen asleep.

Speaker 1 Can y'all? Shut the fuck up. All right.
Leave it alone. God damn it.

Speaker 1 And one more person needs our help. We don't have 40 minutes to help.
So

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Curiosity.

Speaker 1 Hey, you guys.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's the person's name?

Speaker 1 That's what they said to that. Gotcha.
Got you.

Speaker 1 So I've been on and off with this guy for five years. Never been official, but in both of our brains, you couldn't tell us that we weren't.
Every time we try to make that.

Speaker 1 That's why you communicate with your daughter so she don't walk around thinking

Speaker 1 that person, right?

Speaker 1 Why you talk to your fucking kids?

Speaker 1 Every time we try to make things work, it seems to never work out.

Speaker 1 The last time we got into a really bad fight where he told me to, and I quote, die like my mother. Jesus.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Holy crap.

Speaker 1 Yo. Don't laugh.

Speaker 1 Don't laugh. That's wild.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. You can't do that.
You can't laugh. That hurts.
That person's hurt. I'm laughing at Mel laughing.
Die like your mother is crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's the laugh because that is fucking insane.

Speaker 1 Respect me.

Speaker 2 You still talk to him after that?

Speaker 1 That's why I'm waiting to hear it. Salute.

Speaker 1 R.I.P. to her.

Speaker 1 Somehow, it says that right here. I'm reading it still.

Speaker 1 It's not really uncommon nowadays, to be honest with you. Yo, y'all, y'all get up here and act like wild shit don't get said during the fight.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up. Wild shit gets said during the fight.

Speaker 2 Cool.

Speaker 2 There's got to be like, like there's a deal breaker like there's something that somebody says where it's crossing the line and that's the end and personally for me that would be the end that would be my end that would be the end is it financial abuse

Speaker 1 keep reading for real do you keep reading i'm asking because if you don't have a home to go we're not talking

Speaker 2 do you have a home okay she has not expressed that okay this is on again off again i'm i'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't live together since they can't get a fucking relationship together

Speaker 1 so let's go on r.I.P. Mon.
Somehow, I am still not 100% over him, and I cannot hate him.

Speaker 1 I told myself I will never talk to him again, but deep down inside, I cannot help but to think this was my person. See, y'all be doing all that rapping for women shit.
That's her person.

Speaker 1 Y'all tell her how to fuck it. She don't know what the fuck.

Speaker 2 Keep going.

Speaker 1 Isn't that the end? Yo. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Don't be, don't say dumb.

Speaker 1 How do you get over the delusion of love, or in my case, maybe a twin flame?

Speaker 2 Go to fucking therapy.

Speaker 1 And Happy New Year. Something about, let's start out with Mel for this segment.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Go to therapy.

Speaker 2 Go to therapy and read up on what self-esteem is because you lack it.

Speaker 1 Damn. Oh, that's helpful to the person that.

Speaker 2 Yes,

Speaker 2 it's helpful.

Speaker 2 This is tough love. That is what I'm saying.
Go to therapy, discover what self-esteem is because you don't have it and you are slightly delusional.

Speaker 1 I thought you don't believe in tough love, Mel.

Speaker 2 When did I ever say that?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's pertaining to children. She's about to

Speaker 1 Okay. Maybe it'd be maybe it's okay, I got it.
I could have sworn you said tough love when I was talking about tough love pertaining to kids. At a point, you said that tough love was not.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, if we're talking about children, that's completely different.

Speaker 2 This is an adult. Got it.
Okay. Yeah.
This is an adult.

Speaker 1 So that's a good idea. So you don't care that that's a person.

Speaker 2 I don't necessarily think that that is her person. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm not in

Speaker 1 that fucking relationship.

Speaker 1 Do y'all think that somebody's person can't say something inappropriate in the heat of an argument? No. No, that's not what I think.
I think that your per first of all, I don't believe in your person.

Speaker 1 Like, there's this magical person in the sky. This shit is what you make of it.
You got 10 persons.

Speaker 2 7 billion people on the fucking planet, you have a few persons.

Speaker 1 And some of them ain't going to talk about you different. Y'all are fast.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 1 all I'm saying is

Speaker 1 you can say hurtful shit.

Speaker 1 Your person can do fucked up shit. If that was the only thing that person said, I wouldn't be like, that's not your person.

Speaker 1 But if y'all been together all this time, y'all not official, y'all never name it. And when you get in fights, they say crazy shit like that, maybe it's time to move on.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 It doesn't sound like a healthy relationship. Hey, girl, that's.
But we always want to tell you. Go grab your daughter and hug her.
Word. But we always want to tell motherfuckers to move on.

Speaker 1 But we be putting up with bullshit ourselves or doing bullshit. I stay out there.
Listen. Nigga, Onland Man, her daughter was getting hugs from dad.
She still was fucking the cornerback. Bruh.

Speaker 1 Look what her mom was.

Speaker 1 In the back of the pickup drawer. Look what her mate back in the middle of the morning.
She was looking at her mom most of the time.

Speaker 1 Your hug ain't going to stop her from getting slid in the back of a pickup drawer. Y'all up here lying.
lying. Yeah, niggas is not up here lying, Joe.
Niggas is not up here lying. I'm being quiet.

Speaker 1 That screams. That's daddy issues right there.
That does sound like daddy issues. That screams that shit.
She's searching for it with this nigga. I was saying that earlier.

Speaker 1 That's not necessarily true. Okay.

Speaker 1 No, it could be true. I'm not saying that it can't be true.
But

Speaker 1 everybody's been in love in this room before.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah. Your logic and all of this theoretical bullshit

Speaker 1 runs out the door when you are in love with somebody.

Speaker 1 So all of this playbook shit that we talking about in relationships and therapy and all that shit, that shit don't matter when a nigga is in love with, when you're in love with somebody.

Speaker 1 They say mean shit, they do mean shit, and you go back to them. Hey, ish.
That's why they need the cold water now.

Speaker 1 When they have them daddy issues, they don't have that love.

Speaker 1 I said that's a possibility. I'm not putting too much shit on daddy.
No, I said that. No, I said it's a possibility that they could have daddy issues.
But I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 And there are people that don't have them and they fall for the banana in a fucking tailpipe. Yeah, you can.
That's what I'm saying. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 You cannot have daddy issues and say something in the heat of an argument that you didn't. This ain't just saying something in the heat of an argument, though.

Speaker 1 That's just one daddy issues, and that nigga can own your soul. This motherfucker said, can I own your soul? I have been terrible with you.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 For five years, we've never put a title on it. That's the shit.
I'm missing a lot of shit here. True.
That's the shit.

Speaker 1 You don't get to fall in love. You missed a lot of shit on the way to falling in love.
She's like a yo-yo. She's like a yo-yo.
That's the shit I'm saying. I know.

Speaker 1 We started laughing when she first said the five years. I started laughing.
That was the reason. Because my thought was, where's your father? My nigga, but you could be in love with somebody and

Speaker 1 totally be doing goofy, dumb ass shit. You looking at yourself in the mirror, knowing it's some stupid ass shit, and continue to do it.

Speaker 1 That don't mean that you need no fucking help, or you didn't have a daddy, or you didn't have nothing. You in love with them all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to let Ice get his shit off because I don't think the ICE got no fucking parent issues. Not seeing him fucking string a girl alone for four years and no title.
Anybody did that.

Speaker 1 I don't think the dad necessarily speaks to daddy issues. The girl had the the daddy issues.
The girls got the daddy issues. They let them do it.
You tried to put it on ice.

Speaker 1 And we knew it. We all up here have fucked with girls with daddy issues.
You know, we was getting it off on them.

Speaker 1 They were easier than yo-yo. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know.
I thought they had to do it. But that's what I say, though.
I did a pretty shitty shit.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 No, I know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I've done it. I've done it.
I get them.

Speaker 1 Me too, nigga.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Terrible ice.
You know a girl don't have a father. You can just get some shit off that you wouldn't get.
What do you think about the adopted bitches? Oh my god,

Speaker 1 you get some shit off with them too.

Speaker 1 I'm asking a question.

Speaker 1 How adopted are they? Like, we're talking foster care because that you get the shit off. No, no.

Speaker 1 This is what I'm saying. Yo, Mark, the shit that they seen, you get a lot of shit off there.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Like, I slept in bunks.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And I see them get the worst, the worst treatment. You get your own rooms.

Speaker 1 I'm not being frank. I'm saying they get the worst treatment.
I didn't say that. My phone.

Speaker 1 They get their own room at my house. Oh, yo.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 Oh, gee, you can get paid for sheltering them niggas.

Speaker 1 You get a check.

Speaker 1 You know, Mel doesn't sit well with our sister, Mel. My home girl.
What you talking about? She don't sit well with our sister.

Speaker 1 Say what you got to say for the ladies that did not.

Speaker 1 I said what I had to say.

Speaker 1 If you, yeah,

Speaker 1 she's not too happy about that for you. You'll be knowing from the rip she ain't got her dad.

Speaker 1 This telltale sign.

Speaker 1 She like is so full of shit. So you do shit.

Speaker 1 A few hours shit. Fuck are you talking about shit? Y'all be knowing from the rip two hours.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about them girls that was sticking the energy bottle in their asshole. That was a tell

Speaker 1 dead giveaway. If you do shit right in front of them and you can get a shit off, like, oh, it wasn't like that.
Mel, go to Starbucks while we talk about it then. Since she's

Speaker 1 mad at it. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Listen, no, I'm processing.

Speaker 1 She's judging.

Speaker 1 Yo, wait, hold up real quick, Mark, because before the educational shit, I'm going to be ignorant for a little longer.

Speaker 1 You know my problem with y'all talking about the girls that have daddy issues and didn't come up with a dad and all of that? Valid. Fair points.

Speaker 1 Nigga,

Speaker 1 what the fuck, dad?

Speaker 1 Niggas getting this shit off with the dads at the same house. Shit, shit.
I'm living out. Dad did it.
He bought the two family, put her in the basement. Nigga, got her.

Speaker 1 I still got her.

Speaker 1 You're all your great father, and ooh, she's getting dropped off at 5 a.m. Sucking it off, spitting it in the sink of the basement you bought, nigga.
What are y'all talking about?

Speaker 1 Sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sorry. His ninjas out there to get around dad.
That's why the whole season at Landman, he was fucking that little football player up. Nigga, South Orange and Maple Way.
Catch up dads.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'd be girls that come from good daddy.

Speaker 1 still get busy. I'm Will Chamberlain.

Speaker 1 That's when the house changed. I'm the man when I walk out.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about it.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up, dad. I believe it was hell.
No. No, they were talking to dad like that.
Maybe they got daddy issues. No, they be saying, yes, sir.
No, sir. Lying today.

Speaker 1 And they was lying, saying that they're going to spend the night at Kim's house. The strict dad's.

Speaker 1 And they was dipping out of Kim's door because Kim's dad might not have been the greatest or Kim's mom might not have been the greatest. And was popping off.

Speaker 1 Man, they was fucking me right on dad's bed.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about looking for love, going for the bullshit. I'm not talking about the hoes.

Speaker 1 That's two different things, bro. Putting dad sneakers on.

Speaker 1 Thank you for making that clarification.

Speaker 2 I thank you for that.

Speaker 1 I don't know that.

Speaker 1 I know that.

Speaker 1 I don't know that. It's definitely two different things.
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 I can grow that just being sneaky, being a hoe, is not the one that's out here running, searching for love in any man or whoever just shows her some attention. I'm not, she didn't get it.

Speaker 1 Just say, buddy. You ain't do your numbers when she had a dad.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Just say you ain't do your numbers when she had a dad.

Speaker 1 You and Mark.

Speaker 1 Mark don't even answer. You and Mark don't ask.
Me and Dad was Christmas night to you niggas. Yeah, I was getting around that.

Speaker 1 She was in my curfew.

Speaker 1 Mark was a genius one, too.

Speaker 1 He walked in the house, nigga. Dad or no dad, nigga, Mark get his shit off.
He'll talk to parents into letting the girl come over, right? Me too.

Speaker 1 I wasn't that kid, but

Speaker 1 I wasn't that kid. I'm about to do it.
This is good. Y'all ain't doing this.
It's nothing too much.

Speaker 1 A lot of y'all can see. I ain't just nothing to fight.

Speaker 1 Did y'all have any advice for her, by the way?

Speaker 1 Did y'all have advice?

Speaker 2 She needs therapy.

Speaker 1 I think walk away from this relationship. Yeah.
It's not a relationship. Right.
It is a relationship. It's a situation.
Whatever this is, it ain't healthy. It's a relationship.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's the healthiest, but I think communication is pivotal. Oh, my God.
Enough of this educational podcast bullshit. Are we giving some advice on that? Enough.
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 What you talking about? Y'all educated him.

Speaker 1 What's your advice? What's your advice to carry out? What's your advice? You give some advice. What do you tell? A woman that he comes to for his convenience.
You're a doormat.

Speaker 1 You're a doormat. I got a problem with that, too.
That's not true. Y'all on these moral high grounds act like some of these situation shits don't serve you.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And then when y'all get on your fucking social social shit. But even if it serves you,

Speaker 1 even if it serves you, go get your person.

Speaker 1 If it serves you, it doesn't change the fact of what it is. But that's.

Speaker 1 Hold on. He could be her person, but

Speaker 1 that's not necessarily mean that she's his person. Then that ain't your person.
Exactly. Bro, y'all.
Then that ain't your person.

Speaker 1 If my daughter come home like well hey he's my person but i'm not his then get the fuck out of there that ain't your person you think oh she's gonna listen to that yeah

Speaker 1 that'll stop her

Speaker 1 i'm not i'm not you a good dad i'm not get out of there i'm not saying that niggas is

Speaker 1 bugging my nigga he could find just as much solace in shorty as she finds in him y'all with i've had plenty of those i've had plenty of those situations i've had situations where it's casual or where the person wanted more than i wanted and it was situation shit for me they wouldn't love all that i'm not saying i've never been in those situations don't worry we talk about it in 12 years, 13 years.

Speaker 1 Talk about it again with all y'all good father and answers. I mean, my kids are grown.
My daughter's grown, I've watched that happen.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, I've watched them pick bad dudes, I watched them pick good dudes. And

Speaker 1 like you said, the communication is important because I've been at least able to talk to them about that shit. Did they listen to me? Fuck no, they don't have to.

Speaker 1 There's no guarantee they're going to listen. They didn't listen ever, but

Speaker 1 but it would have been worse if I hadn't been there.

Speaker 1 That's all I'm saying. All right, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 I can do anything.

Speaker 1 Take a look. It's reading a book.
It's Reading Rainbow. God damn it.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that right there is exactly why I left school.

Speaker 1 Why are you just going to learn on Reading Rainbow?

Speaker 1 Enough of somebody up there trying to educate me for too long, and I can't move around.

Speaker 1 I can't sit still with all of this bullshit y'all are talking about.

Speaker 1 I I got a sleeper.

Speaker 1 I got a sleeper somewhere.

Speaker 1 All right, rest in peace, PNB rock. I'm going PMB, DJ Luke Nasty.
This record is called High.

Speaker 1 PMB rock on a beat and a kill.

Speaker 1 it in your eyes on you

Speaker 1 that you feel my pies, baby. You ain't gotta lie.
I've been waiting all day to get

Speaker 1 with you, Shawty. You know you my boo.
I got all this weed for you, girl. Let's get

Speaker 1 tonight, Shawty. Let's get high, Shawty.

Speaker 1 I just got your text, let's tell where you at.

Speaker 1 You had a long day, I got some weed for your stress. Bout to wash up and get dressed.

Speaker 1 Send me your address, and I'll be on my way. Let's fucking roll up some hairs.
I'll pull up to your place. See that smile on your face.
Show me just how much you miss me. Come take off all this bag.

Speaker 1 Yo, God, you know you're hungry.

Speaker 1 With me, Shawty, I got what you need. Me back was a Halloween.
I can't wait to get

Speaker 1 with you, girl, with you, girl. You should know, you should know.

Speaker 1 I can't put you on another.

Speaker 1 So let's watch, Shawty. Let's get high, Shawty.
Cause girl, I love it right away.

Speaker 1 Do it, tell you are, Shawty. Tell me if I'm wrong.
I can see it in your eyes, man.

Speaker 1 That you feel in my vibes, baby. You ain't gotta lie.
I've been waiting all day to get

Speaker 1 with you, Shawty. You know you, my boo.
I got all this weeds for you, girl. Let's get

Speaker 1 tonight, Shawty. Let's get high, Shawty.

Speaker 1 We ride around with the top bag. Smoking on this iPad.
My baby, she exotic.

Speaker 3 But together, we so toxic.

Speaker 1 It's me and Mary Jane. This thing'll never change.
We take off like a plane, then we go in my game.

Speaker 1 And I love it when we.

Speaker 1 Cause I know that leads to you getting naked. You pull out my wood and then you face it.
This the type of shit you can't replace it.

Speaker 1 And I love it when we.

Speaker 1 That's smoking fucking chill. Took it lovely, fell.
I love it when we both.

Speaker 1 I wanna get high.

Speaker 1 Just wanna get high.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, PNB rock on, but not forgotten.

Speaker 1 I just wanna get high with you. I just wanna get high with high.
That's PNB and DJ Luke Nasty. That record is called High.

Speaker 1 I just wanna get high with you. I just wanna come fly with you.
Hold up and get high with you.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, PNB. Rest in peace, PNB.
I love what happened when rappers found that sample.

Speaker 1 Yeah, love what happens when rappers listen to music.

Speaker 1 They body that flip too. Yeah, no, it's fine.

Speaker 1 All right, um, I'm gonna go to Brooklyn with this one. Uh, this is First Quarter by Ryan Witherspoon.

Speaker 3 Coming off a clean stretch, nigga.

Speaker 3 Feeling like a bus, nigga.

Speaker 1 It's snowing.

Speaker 1 tonight, Jackson here. Know the fuck on

Speaker 1 talk my shit,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 3 I caught a wave and I ain't going backwards. Looking for results, nigga.
I'm number four and after, about to be my greatest chapter. Out in Brooklyn like King Tut.
I really snatch your Cleopatra.

Speaker 3 Keep her close. Put your girl up in that ghost.
You won't ever see a nigga. Look up at the stars, and now she's talking about she's dreaming bigger.

Speaker 3 Like for me, life that I'm living, it could bring jealousy. I'm the chosen one, so you better pray for my enemies.
Always in the back of the back, like I'm on MMG.

Speaker 3 You can take a look at my life and get the game for free. Chef Curry, 30 on my wrist, come get the recipe.
Catch me at the garden, nigga, I could trip the referee.

Speaker 3 And that's the subtle flexes, sudden texture Mexicans. I haven't seen her for a while, I think she moved to Texas.
I just seen her latest pictures, she still wear the necklace.

Speaker 3 Tryna keep in touch like she ain't get the message.

Speaker 1 And that is the first quarter freestyle by Ryan Witherspoon.

Speaker 1 A little quick. Yeah, a little quick, quick joy.

Speaker 1 I'm going to Pittsburgh. Rest in peace, Mac Miller.
This is Rick's piano.

Speaker 1 Josh?

Speaker 1 Yes?

Speaker 1 Knock, knock.

Speaker 1 Who's there?

Speaker 1 Rick Rubin.

Speaker 1 Rick Rubin, who?

Speaker 1 Rick Rubin's piano.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Don't fucking around.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wake up, wake

Speaker 1 Open up your eyes, I told you wake up

Speaker 1 All of y'all are still bitches, but the smell just in place of your makeup

Speaker 1 The best is yet to come Yeah

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah

Speaker 1 ET's not dead, just a little bit faded Please don't give me any credit, that's how people get jaded Please don't nod your head and please don't tell me I made it.

Speaker 1 Cause people start to get worse once they think they're the greatest.

Speaker 1 The best is yet to come.

Speaker 1 I told her it'd get better soon. I probably should have told her when she was in a better mood.
She looking at me like anyone except for you. I had to go to California.
She was sitting I never moved.

Speaker 1 She said, baby, the best is yet to come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is to come.

Speaker 1 Wonder if the blind mice even wanna see.

Speaker 1 I wonder if the deaf father ever hear his daughter scream. Is there a heaven? Can you see the God in me? I don't know, probably.

Speaker 1 But for now, we'll keep waiting.

Speaker 1 Cause the best is yet to come.

Speaker 1 I wonder if the truth come with a song. And if it do, will we ever get to sing along? Spend her paycheck on that lingerie, she scared to put it on.

Speaker 1 She never let her boyfriend see her in a thong, but

Speaker 1 the best is yet so come.

Speaker 1 I shot myself on my birthday, fell into the ocean.

Speaker 1 Listened to their voices, I was lost in the commotion. None of us are chosen, I'll forgive them for their ignorance.
But what's a man gotta do for a little bliss?

Speaker 1 What does that feel like?

Speaker 1 I wonder what does that feel like. Oh, my my god.

Speaker 1 What does that feel like?

Speaker 1 What is what does that feel like?

Speaker 1 What is that feel like?

Speaker 1 What is what is that feel like? life? Oh, oh, my god.

Speaker 1 What is this your life?

Speaker 1 What is what is this still like? Oh, my, my god.

Speaker 1 What is this you like?

Speaker 1 What is what is this you like? Oh, my god.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Mac Miller. That is Rick's piano off his new album, Balloonerism.
Rest in peace, which is out now.

Speaker 1 Big ish.

Speaker 1 I'm going to a young lady's name is Elena, and the song is called Golden.

Speaker 1 Come and get it

Speaker 1 rides on your body, and you know,

Speaker 1 down on your knees. yeah.
Tell me your name and your reasons.

Speaker 1 I wanna see.

Speaker 1 Got you on a mortar when you're leaving in the morning.

Speaker 1 Cause a commotion,

Speaker 1 I picked you when you're walking.

Speaker 1 Got what you need.

Speaker 1 So why won't you, baby? Come a little closer.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's nice to meet ya. Got me feeling higher.

Speaker 1 Got the perfect face to be in her. I know how to treat ya.

Speaker 1 Come and get that golden limit.

Speaker 1 So golden. Hot, so golden.
Got my heart over with that golden limit.

Speaker 1 So golden.

Speaker 1 So golden.

Speaker 1 So golden.

Speaker 1 Try

Speaker 1 guessing.

Speaker 1 I didn't know when I lose.

Speaker 1 Got me going one touch Why you get it?

Speaker 1 Heart me sick of a soul and moon

Speaker 1 Yeah, I hit my snitch, yeah Body a playground with me, babe

Speaker 1 I wanna feel ya Got you in the mold when you're leaving in the morning

Speaker 1 You're like a sunrise, I can see your shine with closed eyes

Speaker 1 Got what I need, yeah

Speaker 1 it's nice to beat ya. Got me feeling higher.

Speaker 1 Got the perfect face to demer. I know how to treat ya.

Speaker 1 Come and get that golden love.

Speaker 1 So golden, hot, so cold.

Speaker 1 Got my heart going, get that golden love.

Speaker 1 So golden, drippin', so cold.

Speaker 1 So golden.

Speaker 1 You're so golden.

Speaker 1 My life so golden.

Speaker 1 So golden.

Speaker 1 Trivia, you're so golden.

Speaker 1 That is Golden by Elena.

Speaker 1 A vibe.

Speaker 1 Big move.

Speaker 2 Mine is called Rip Chord by Greek.

Speaker 2 You acted so naive.

Speaker 2 I thought I'd take it out on you.

Speaker 1 What you, what you gotta say, love,

Speaker 1 thought I told you. Something don't come every day.
I can't beat you, I can't hold back my words. I pray that I'll just get to say it all.

Speaker 1 I hope I do.

Speaker 1 Life goes fast, but you gotta clown. Hope she'll make a sound.
But she got your songs on the mellow, couldn't wanna do two sides of

Speaker 1 this.

Speaker 1 I need money for the day, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Face like yours, I need a car like that.

Speaker 1 What's yours?

Speaker 1 Tell me about it.

Speaker 1 I'd be run away from everybody. Watch me go like fuck you too.
How could I ever love you if you love me when it's nothing in? However could I let you go?

Speaker 1 However would I let you in? I'm sure I spent the time away. How I spent my time today

Speaker 1 I'm such a fused.

Speaker 1 I found what you need.

Speaker 1 I found what you need.

Speaker 1 Probably the hoes we got Our feet touched up way too long Betty to save the town

Speaker 1 I bet you've been fucking around way too much these days Can't get enough these days I'm from where you've been trying to pull you out of that place If you don't work, you don't eat

Speaker 1 Wait on me I can't even wait on me

Speaker 1 I can't do this shit for free

Speaker 1 I just do this shit for me

Speaker 1 That is ripcord by Greek. I fucked with that.

Speaker 1 Who was that? Greek. No, whose sleeper was that? Ballard.
Come on.

Speaker 1 A few things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you go fix your face up when I'm talking to you now.

Speaker 1 You don't have to be defensive. I'm starting with some dab.

Speaker 1 I'm starting with all nice things to say. Okay.

Speaker 1 Mel, have you seen the graphic of you and the pink onesie dunking on everybody that they said is Mel once you get the aux chord? Have you seen that? You did because you commented on it.

Speaker 1 You did. No, I retweeted it.
I retweeted it and left a little comic.

Speaker 2 I laughed. I didn't know what it was.
I had no idea what it was about, though.

Speaker 1 Mel don't be knowing none of the slang or nothing. They say when you get to Aux, that's what you do.
You be dunking on people. Which leads to my next question.
Ish.

Speaker 1 Ish.

Speaker 1 Look at me, my brother.

Speaker 1 Do you feel any way about Mel coming for your sleeper title this year?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Do you recognize that she is attempting to come for your sleeper title? No. You don't recognize it? I don't.

Speaker 1 That's why you're my man forever. They can't tell me nothing about you.
You don't even see that. You don't feel it? For real, seriously.
Serious question. You don't feel nothing.
You don't feel heat?

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you're coming for the sleeper title? No.

Speaker 2 No, I think that collectively we all have such a high appreciation for music that this is the way that we get to express it.

Speaker 1 But one person got the sleeper title by the fans, and that was ish for last year. Okay.

Speaker 1 It seemed like you trying to break a back-to-back run

Speaker 1 for him.

Speaker 1 You going hard this year with the sleepers. No.
You killing shit. No.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 That joint right there, I'm going to throw that on the Sonos.

Speaker 1 Hey, that joint right there.

Speaker 1 I'm turning all the Sonos on in the crib with that. Come on.
You hear me now? It was cute.

Speaker 1 All right, one more question for the room. It's been a rather serious pod.
That was good. I could tell when Mark get an Adderall in his system.

Speaker 1 It's fine. That nigga just just get to talking to

Speaker 1 my daughter.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I think the dad should be good, dad. I don't know the thing about Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 Ish.

Speaker 1 Actually, not Ish. The rest of the room.
Okay. A few weeks ago, I told y'all I was going to go get the count on how many times Ish has said my man's

Speaker 1 in the last year. I'm dying for this stat.
The numbers are in. Oh, shit.
The numbers are in.

Speaker 1 So, my distinguished cast. How many mans does Ish? Would Would anyone like to bet on the amount of times Ish has said my mans

Speaker 1 in the past

Speaker 1 calendar

Speaker 1 year? 675. I got a number.
All right, we got a 675 from Parks. 312.
We have a 312 from ICE. 240.
We have a 240 from Mark.

Speaker 2 432.

Speaker 1 We have a 432 from Mel.

Speaker 1 Flip is not here at the moment. You said 700 plus?

Speaker 1 Ish can get a guest on his own shit. Wait, Corey, you might know.
Hold up, this is count on Patreon too? Okay. Corey doesn't know.
Count on Patreon with those hat.

Speaker 2 That's it 432.

Speaker 1 No, these are just episodes. Okay.
Just regular episodes. Just me.
I'm keeping my number. Oh, hold on.
Let me change your back there. Main episode.
Oh, okay. Then I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go

Speaker 1 175.

Speaker 1 Anyone else? I'm going to lower man.

Speaker 1 My one goes on Patreon, too. I'm at

Speaker 1 300. 312.
I'm going to drop to 200.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if it's only just main pods, then.

Speaker 1 I'm tramship. He's got more bands on Patreon.
I'm keeping my number. 265.
What you're not at? 317.

Speaker 2 I said 312. I'm going to put 265 if it's just main pods.

Speaker 1 You ready? Plus 400.

Speaker 1 You ready? Yeah. Of course.
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 In the past calendar year,

Speaker 1 Grand Man. Oh, no, Flip is here.
Flip, let's get a guess. Let's get a guess from you.

Speaker 1 How many times has he done? In the past calendar year, how many times has Ish said

Speaker 1 my man's

Speaker 1 on the main pod only?

Speaker 1 About 500. 500.
Drumroll, please.

Speaker 1 In the past calendar year, Ish has said my man on the main pod 1,047 times.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of here, fuck that.

Speaker 1 Fuck, I should have kept my 430.

Speaker 1 Should have come up 677. That's like 10 times an episode.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's what I did, the math. I don't say my man's 10 times a day.

Speaker 1 How did you do the math? It's not fair. How many times do you think you say it per episode? I don't.
I don't say it every episode.

Speaker 1 No, you definitely say it every episode, but like once, once or twice.

Speaker 1 It's two episodes a week. Okay.
Times 52 weeks. It's 100.
100 ish episodes.

Speaker 1 He don't say 10 times an episode. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He might. I think he says it more.
I doubt.

Speaker 1 I think he says it at least four to five times out. No, I don't.
I give him more than two.

Speaker 1 You say my man five times within a sentence

Speaker 1 within a topic. And I'm not arguing.
I'm just telling you what the

Speaker 1 what they come back with. All these guys are low.
It's 1,040. I would have never.
God damn it. That's a lot of man.
That's my man. You got a lot of mans.
You got a lot of mans. It's my man's in them.

Speaker 1 Y'all sleep on how many mans this guy. Yeah, you got a lot of mans, yo.

Speaker 1 Got to respect the friendship. Word.
The brothers. Them too.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Good show.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought this was.

Speaker 1 Really educational.

Speaker 1 Informative show.

Speaker 1 Just smile upon me. We thank y'all.

Speaker 1 Thank y'all, man. Shout out to the journalists.

Speaker 1 We couldn't have done it without you, man.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all your wisdom,

Speaker 1 all of your fact-checking.

Speaker 1 The research required to come in. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Stop playing with them out there.

Speaker 1 Big doctor.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Yo, put a light up in the air real quick, man.
You got what?

Speaker 1 On the wing for me.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.

Speaker 1 I bid you adieu farewell.

Speaker 1 Adios Cerebaderci, Ostola Vistar Voie.

Speaker 1 So long, goodbye.

Speaker 1 Or a simple head nod will suffice.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass.

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have, man.

Speaker 1 We're saying prayers for the people inside and outside the rooms.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the people out there going through tough times.

Speaker 1 You can make it. It goes.
All the wings are love.

Speaker 1 And above the clouds. Stay still for these 40 years.

Speaker 1 There's on the wings of love.

Speaker 1 They'll test us out there.

Speaker 1 All we have to do is persevere.

Speaker 1 All we have to do is continue to be strong.

Speaker 1 These next four years will try out.

Speaker 1 But we just got to come together at the people in parks.

Speaker 1 Hey, get Billy Joel on them. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Shit. Burn the shit out of my fingers.

Speaker 1 What y'all got going on for the week? Anything funny? Anything interesting?

Speaker 1 Is it anybody's birthday?

Speaker 1 Is there anything I need to know about y'all? Come on, what's up? Talk to me. Talk to me.
Nah, I have nothing interesting. Yo, we praying for y'all in Atlanta and Houston.

Speaker 1 Y'all got two inches of snow. New Orleans got snow too.
Walk it back.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas said it wasn't going to be no more snow.

Speaker 1 Day later.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Well, if y'all call that snow, then I will walk it back.

Speaker 1 It was snow.

Speaker 1 I said snow that requires some shoveling and stuff, and y'all said yes. I didn't shovel anything.
I didn't say you. I didn't shovel shit.
I went outside, started my Maybach, hit the clicker,

Speaker 1 hit the road. I had to hit the turns a little softer because, you know,

Speaker 1 yo, is that real-wheel drive? Huh? Is that real-wheel drive? It is. Oh, shit.
I ain't gonna get a big car. Yeah, yeah, it is.
That was a real-wheel drive. But I went out, got me a ribeye,

Speaker 1 drove slow. It was empty outside.
See, I love it.

Speaker 1 Any earthly conditions outside of catastrophes, like what went on in LA, but any earthly conditions that keep you criminals, scammers, and dirty heathens inside the house while I'm trying to enjoy a good ribeye, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 Sorry,

Speaker 1 there Chappelle hit that on the head.

Speaker 1 We love you.

Speaker 1 Each and every one of you out there.

Speaker 1 We'll be back same time.

Speaker 1 Same place next week.

Speaker 1 Take it up on them.

Speaker 1 The only way to fly.

Speaker 1 Remember, the Nazis are empowered.

Speaker 1 The racists have all the money.

Speaker 1 And there's some people that want to keep you stagnant as a people.

Speaker 1 To give them fly now.

Speaker 1 grab you, Amali,

Speaker 1 you gonna need it?

Speaker 1 You might need it.

Speaker 1 Next season of America 2025 is officially upon us.

Speaker 1 Be careful.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, George Carlin.

Speaker 1 We going, man. We love you.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP. Why would you be without the JBP?

Speaker 1 Mech.