#2307 - Tim Dillon

Hey Tim Dillon, how are you? I'm much better now that the ladies are back from space. Thank you for having me.
What were they up there? 10 minutes? Well, it was very profound. I don't know if you've seen Katy Perry talk about it, but she's basically a guru now.

Yeah.

What were her findings?

That's my question.

Well, she brought a daisy, which is super important.

It shows you how quick the flight was.

The dead daisy that's snipped from its life source was still alive or still vibrant.

Yeah.

Look at her.

Shout out, daisy.

Wow.

Look at her nails. So pretty.
Now, so they go up there and they float for like 10 minutes. At least.
And then they come down. Let's not minimize this.
No, I know. It's a big deal.
Let's celebrate female astronauts. Because they were united.
Because a lot of men astronauts, they have to go to school. Right.
They have to learn how to be a pilot first then they have to join the air force or the navy and then right they get appointed by nasa that's right then they go to space you know but and there has been that's the other thing there has been female astronauts let's let's not minimize let's not minimize this yeah like i think there was a bitch stuck on a space station for a few months. That's terribly more impressive.
Let's not minimize this. Yeah, like I think there was a bitch stuck on a space station for a few months.
That's terribly more impressive. Let's not minimize this.
No, the problem with that story. Yeah, is that she was rescued by very awful person.
Okay, who wants to expose flawed fraud and rate waste. Yes, did Musk rescue her? Yes.
Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Oh, where's that in the news? Oh, I didn't know those fucking people were stuck the boeing jet the skyline whatever the fuck yeah the boeing spaceship wasn't working they couldn't fix it interesting i didn't even know that yeah and by the way elon could have rescued them during the biden administration they didn't want to because of his open support for trump so they left those people up there yes he's talked about it on my podcast they love those people up there and they're just chillin no they're dying right it's like slow radiation poisoning it's like getting 10 x-rays a day and they're just slowly getting sapped of your life force out there and no gravity your bones are weakening do you see that lady's face when she came back she didn didn't look great. Bro, something had happened.
Like her chin had grown. She looked like.
Her chin was extended and her hair had all turned gray. She looked like she was sick.
She was sick. Yeah.
You're dying up there, man. That's crazy.
I had Commander Chris Hatfield on, and he was at one point in time the longest person that had been in space from, wasn't it's like he was there for like six months and he was saying it was unbelievable like how difficult it was to recover once you get back to earth he couldn't walk it was just like a total vertigo like his whole body was like so not used to gravity all of his bones were weak all his muscles were weak but these bitches seem fine these ladies well for now it was not minimized. These ladies.
Well, for now. It was quick.
It was quick. It was quick.
It was quick. It was quick.
It was quick. It was quick.
It was quick. It was quick.
It was quick. It was quick.
It was huge. It was a big deal.
For the world, in fact. Yeah.
For the world. They're profoundly different.
They're profoundly different now. To show people.
Well, it's inspiring. That's what I'm saying.
It's inspiring. If a guy who's worth, what, a trillion dollars? Several billion? A hundred billion? Just imagine the conspiracies if they didn't make it.
Yeah. Well, Pete, there's already people saying that they faked it, which I think is silly.
Well, I love those people. But it's great.
Those are the people that think space is fake. That's right.
Yeah. But there are already people going, well, they faked it.
And I'm like, I hope they fake something better than that. I hope.
if they're faking stuff and they probably are faking some stuff yeah god i hope they're faking stuff that's better than that i think this is the confusion i think the confusion is that they essentially got to the threshold of space they did not get like way out there where re-entry is very traumatic and it has like if you see like those

heat sheets get like way out there where re-entry is very traumatic and it has like if you see like those heat shields that they put all over those things and if they break off on the re-entry everybody dies right that's because you're way out there and the amount of heat that gets generated as you're re-entering the atmosphere i think they're essentially like on the border of the atmosphere let's see how high did they go up there 62 miles they go above go above that line. It's called like the Carmen line or something.
So the space shuttle goes 300 miles. They went a little higher than that Rocket Man documentary, that guy who shot himself up in a rocket.
They went like a few feet higher than that guy. RIP that guy drove by his grave on the way to Vegas when LA burned down.
Are they even like technically actually in space? I think that's where the, like it floats. That's the line.
I might go there. I might do that.
Do it. I wouldn't go to space space, but I might do the 80 miles.
Do that. So 350 miles is the highest anyone has ever gone other than the Apollo astronauts.
62. 62 miles.
100 kilometers. Okay, 62 miles ain't shit, dude.
I drive that in an hour. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and it's, by the way, I agree with you.
It's not that far. That's not even here to San Antonio.
62 miles ain't shit, but it is kind of technically space. So they get up there and they look at the Earth? Yeah, that's why, like, everybody's calling bullshit on the outside of the capsule.
Right. That it wasn't completely on fire and destroyed.
Just because they didn't go that high. They didn't go that high.
That's all it is. Right.
But they did go to space, technically. They went to space, and they lost gravity.
The funniest thing is they come back and you need a parachute to land. Right.
Like at all the technology Elon has. is catching rockets what could robot arms clamp what could go wrong in something like that oh it could explode on the way up for sure oh yeah the way up is not ensured that those things are definitely going to hold it together so that's the biggest risk yeah you have these cannons filled with rocket fuel that are burning at like twice the what is the temperature of rocket fuel when it's hot is it like Is it it's like close to the surface of the Sun or some crazy shit? Like what is the what's the actual temperature so everything has to be contained while you have insane amounts of fuel burning every second and Huge plumes of flame flame.
Enormous thrust to escape Earth's atmosphere. You're just hoping all those O-rings and all this shit that blew up with the Challenger.
So it could have blown up. 100%.
I mean, Musk has openly said some of these are going to blow up when he's testing them. When they would blow up, you're like, oh, Elon failed again.
Like, no, we want it to fail because we want to find out what is the threshold. There's only one way to find out.
I wonder if all of them were, you think they were like prepared to die? No. Katy Perry was prepared to die.
Yeah, in her eyes, something's off. She looked like a soldier.
Something's off with her. I don no, no.
It's good. What about the hatch, though?

Wasn't that kind of a sketch?

She has a Mohammed Adda look to her. Well, I think the problem is that the hatch is not a real hatch like a spaceship.
Because it's not really going to space. There's no captain.
There's no pilot. Right.
There's nobody going. Exact the mundo.
All the above. Okay.
Most hatches in that regard, they open outwardly so that the pressure of space travel, like when you're shooting that fucking rocket up insane amounts of gravity, doesn't make the door hinges fail and it collapses in on itself and everybody dies. Right.
So they have to open outward. Right.
Right. So the pressure would keep them shut.
So generally, like there's like a seal and it's really kind of crazy.

Like I have a friend of mine, very wealthy businessman who brings me over his house the other day is I want to show you something. And he shows me this diagram.
He said this is from the 1950s. And this is the blueprint for the recreation UFO that they made when they tried to back engineer the one that they found at Roswell.
And this was a diagram. Yeah.
Crazy. And it had a crank handle like a submarine door, you know? And they were trying to replicate a craft that had landed, crashed.
Yeah. Well, he thinks they did.
Wow. He doesn't think it's a trial.
He said, this is the blueprint, because it had the actual, by the way, the exact generator in the center of it that Bob Lazar described in 1989 when he worked at Area S4. What layer of the government do you think is working on projects like that? Like, is it all the DARPA people? I think it's people that are completely disconnected from congressmen, senators, presidents.
It's all deep state. They have to be like, they probably belong to an agency without a name.
Well, there's probably a bunch of those. And when it comes to this kind of stuff, like we already know now because of Doge that there was money that was going with no receipts billions and billions of dollars that was just flying out with no receipts they have no idea where it went and elon openly said if this was he goes if this was a public company the it would be delisted and the people who ran it would go to prison but because it's The government, you're like, oh, we did.
We just have no receipts. Do you think that could be going to it? You think they'll bring charges against anyone for fraud? That's the worry about disclosure.
Because I think that's what's holding it back. I think people need concrete stuff.
Yeah. You want to see concrete? Let's hear Katy perry talk about right i'm gonna send you one i sent you a few this morning i said let's discuss i saw her i saw i chatted about it on my show i saw her this episode is brought to you by the farmer's dog we all want to do the best for our dogs but there's a lot of mixed messaging around dog food.
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Talk to qualified candidates tomorrow. Say something about we weren't taking space, we're making space.
That's the one I want to say. Which I thought was an interesting scientific.
That's not this one? No, no, no. I got another one.
I got some better ones. What is funny is immediately after they landed.
Actually, that one's pretty good. It is funny to do something like this, and then everyone hates you.
Like, everyone hates them now. They shouldn't hate her.
Oh, no, that's not it, Jamie. I'll send it to you.
Yeah, this one has all of them. I have so many of them.
I don't think that one has the making space. Try this one.
It's so fun when people... Why is it so fun when people get pretentious? I guess because you're terrified that you would ever do it.
Well, yeah, and I also think it's so fun with people why is it so fun when people get pretentious because you're i guess because you're terrified that you would ever do it well yeah i also think it's fun to see somebody who has no self-awareness yeah they're always the most fun i will never be the same i mean when you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen and it's not just your window it's like everybody's window and there's no boundaries there's no border there's just earth and it just fills the screen and you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen is it what you expected no no better oh yeah i don't think you can describe it um because you know what i was saying it was like um quiet but then also really alive and you look at it and you're like we're all in this together you mentioned prior to going up you said that you needed to go to space to heal i know you're only a few minutes removed from this incredible experience do you feel healed um now you are officially an astronaut thank you so much how do you feel i feel super connected to love goodness i will never be the same. I mean, when you get up there...

That's it. There's another one.

She said making space.

How great is it that they just

get called astronauts now? It's funny to hear the

richest guy in the world's wife

go, we're all in it together.

Oh, boy. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know if people

feel that. Yeah, we're definitely

not all in it with you. I don't feel like we're all in it together

with you.

Can we get on your jet not How in it together are we yeah, what's that mean it feels like you hand-selected a couple of friends to go do this Yeah, yeah, I mean she should have teach should have been a lottery system like Willy Wonka where just seven random people Should have been able to go in this I would do it it just to change my... That would be fun.
That would be good. Just seven random people.
Just pull out some guy who's not supposed to be here. Just a cashier at HEB, someone from MS-13.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Get him in.
Someone from MS-13. Someone from Trendyagua and Lauren Sanchez and Gayle King and, you know.
Oh, you see they released the footage, dash cam footage or police footage of the guy who they're saying was just a father. The Maryland father.
Yeah, as he got pulled over with eight undocumented people in his truck. They were all supposedly staying at his house.
Yeah, I didn't see that. The wife had a restraining order against him a protection i saw that there was a

restraining order i saw that they he was hanging out with two guys that were in in ms13 yeah they released the yeah he's he's definitely sketchy they have made a few mistakes he's not this maryland father no the guy that scares me is the hairdresser the gay hairstylist yeah i want to There's a guy with a tattoo.

That's him.

Oh, the hairdresser has a mom and dad.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

There was a guy with an autism awareness tattoo and they thought it was like an MS-13 tattoo, but it doesn't look like an MS-13 tattoo. It's a literal...
The problem is everybody's a liar. You don't know.
So the liberals are liars and the Republicans are liars. Everyone's lying.
They're all and if they did ship some ironically the only people i trust are ms-13 and because they'll tell you and podcasters and ms-13 that's all i trust i would love if you just had ms-13 on just three guys with tattoos because by the way there would be no outrage that's what's hilarious if you had three ms-13 gang members not one person would go why did he have that why did he platform them nobody would but if i have ian carroll if you have anyone else on it'll be a horrible thing but if it was three guys ms-13 with head-to-toe tattoos who admitted to killing multiple people and you said now now tell me about what it's like to grow up and send Pedro S sulla or whatever and it would be okay well that would be why that's good is because i think it's important to learn about other cultures of well a thousand percent and they should have their chance to talk and what's not cool is talking about maybe israel did something wrong you should really not do that i i think it's criminal of you to even discuss i. It's not right.
Apparently, I've been co-opted by what's called the woke right. The woke right.
That's what I heard. There's a woke right now? Yes.
Fascinating. They're co-opting.
I still haven't accepted the fact that I've left the left. I did a CNN interview for an hour because I'm promoting my special.
Oh, my God. Did you really? Yeah.
Who did you talk to? This girl, Elle Reeves. Was she cool? Elle.
She was cool. She does all the, you know, when you see the Vice documentaries where she talks to the Nazis and the incels.
Oh, Jesus. She does that? It was that chick.
And they sent her in. Oh, that's a good move for them.
I was like, this is hilarious. So I'm sitting there and she sits down and she's like, are there any left wing comedians? And I named 10 of them that are all in arenas.
And she goes, oh, because their whole thing now is that podcasters are the most powerful people in the world. And she goes, do you think your friends are the new establishment? I said, well, there's 22 intelligence agencies and entire legacy media.
There's lots of Ivy League schools. There's this, there's that.
Do I think Theo Vaughn's the new establishment? No, I don't think so. I.
I think you ran a really unpopular candidate. I don't think Americans like child sex changes.
And I don't think they want an open border. And I think if you'd, you know, co-opted some of those issues, you might have won.
They said to me at CNN, they're like, we're editing the interview. I said, put the hour out.
I sat there for an hour and we had a nice conversation. But, you know, we talked for one hour and i was like put it out i'm like i understand if you can't put it out and then she goes like this she goes um i can't believe you'd show up um people have said that they can't come on here because joe rogan would get mad at them i said that's absolutely ridiculous why would i said he doesn't care he would never care i said oh that's so silly it's the silliest thing ever They think we mad at them.
I said, that's absolutely ridiculous. Why would I care? I said, he doesn't care.
He would never care. I said, it's the silliest thing ever.
Do you think we're at war? I just said, put out the thing, put out the hour online. If you can only put out a few minutes on network, fine.
But it's wrong to have someone come in and talk for an hour and then not use five minutes. It's fucked up.
How much did they use? We don't know yet.'t put it out and do you did they say we can't put the whole hour out i texted this journalist and she texted me she goes i'm pushing for like a long form release i go yeah man just put out the interview also do you guys want ratings or no yeah we had a conversation about all these things you guys talk about yeah you guys have a website then what are we doing Don't doing? Don't you have a YouTube page? Put it out. Does CNN have a YouTube page? Put the fucking whole hour out.
I go, she goes, what do you think that you're a rogant show? Why is it so popular? I go, well, one of the reasons is he doesn't edit people. They don't, they're not edited.
They come on, they say what they want to say and there's no editing. So what's weird about those institutions is they will sit you down for an hour and then I guess cherry pick what they think their audience wants to see.
Well, they just want what they think is going to grab the most ratings and is not going to make them look stupid. So if you're mocking them openly.
Yeah. Well, she didn't know when she said that.
She goes, comedy is right. When you know I go, she goes, name left of center comedians.
I named literally eight of them. And I said, they all are in arenas.
I go, what are you you talking about it's so what are you talking about it's so dumb I was like that's you're saying a comedy's what by the way I used to be left of center according to the metrics of 2015 I said there's a lot of Joe's positions if you look at them that are that are that are left of center positions and there's a lot of my positions or anyone's positions. I said there's nobody that you can easily put in a box.

But they want you to be in that box.

Well, they're silly. And they also want me

to be an enemy of CNN. I don't give a fuck if you don't

care. Who cares? By the way, I hope CNN

corrects course and does real news.

Right. And just concentrates on the

news and all this fucking...

I don't want editorial

comments from morons.

Right? So when you're force feeding me Don Lemon's opinion on how the world should be. Right.
And how everyone should be shamed if they don't get vaccinated. Right.
You're force-feeding me morons. Of course your ratings plummeted.
Yeah. Of course.
And you guys lied about so many fucking things and never corrected yourself. Is there an arm of the Democratic National Committee and they're an arm of that party? I mean, whether they are forced to be or whether they choose to be because they identify with being Democrat and they want to skew things completely towards the left.
I don't know. I don't know what the answer to that is.
All of the old Bush era, neoconservative people who pushed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay and all of this stuff, all find homes usually on MSNBC or CNN advocating for war with Iran or an escalation in Ukraine. They always, so it's kind of an establishment.
It doesn't seem to matter. They don't really care about party.
Right. And, you know.
They're doing better now, though. I mean, when they have Scott Jennings on, he's great.
That's the kind of conversations you need. Completely ridiculous people are out of your fucking minds versus Scott Jennings.
Like, those are great. You need to have some fun, yeah.
It makes these ridiculous woke anchors look retarded. And they should.
They are. In the world, there are good principled arguments against right-wing things.
Yes. You just can't have people who are completely out of it make them.
Exactly. Exactly.
After the election, one of my favorite ones, was it CNBC or CNN? I forget what it was. This guy was talking about this whole right-wing podcast ecosystem that's incredibly well-funded and organized.
Right. What are you talking about? You could literally go to the roots of how it all started.
You could see every one of us doing our first podcast with a fucking webcam.'s no there's no funding What are we talking about what are we saying even the idea that we're all organized together or that like I would want to prevent people from going on CNN I could not care less because that's the way they operate you always usually Like a lot of times you end up accusing people of something you're doing right so you because you are familiar with that So they're like well We have a top-down corporate oligarchy telling us what to do is that the way it works with you like no Joe Rogan doesn't email people at the beginning of the week and go hey guys This is this is where you can't go. It's the most insane thing ever.
Well, not only that like I Want them to do well. I really don't care.
They obviously don't want me to do well, but I don't care. I hope they're, look, if they turned it around and CNN became great, I'd watch it all the time.
It's just, it used to be great. It used to have parts unknown on it.
The new thing they're doing, this is, this is a very interesting thing that's happening. If somebody says something that they don't like and they can't immediately dismiss it, they go, but the fans of that thing are bad people.
This is an interesting attack point. They go, but somebody with a massive audience, if they find a sliver of that audience to be objectionable in any way, they then go, well, the fans of that type of questioning are anti-Semitic or racist or something.
And they don't deal with the actual facts or the actual line of argumentation. Yeah, it's just a sneaky debate tactic.
Right. When you're dealing with, I have 19 million YouTube subscribers.
How can you nail that down to the fans? Right. You don't know.
You're just talking out of your ass. Right.
This is a non-argument. It's a stupid point.
And by the way, when you're talking about actual comments, we've already established that, I don't know what the number is, but there's a huge number of people that are commenting that aren't even people. Right.
They're bots. Right.
They're state-sponsored bots. Yeah.
They could be from Ukraine, they could be from America. They could be from Russia.
They could be from Israel. And I want more of them.
Yeah. So if they're a state-sponsored bots that can jack my ratings up.
They can. If they want to come over to me.
Do you have anything nice to say about Israel? Any Ukraine. I'm waiting for the money.
I text Barry Weiss. I go, here's the way this game works.
I get a little bit of money first. Not I go on and defend whatever the hell you people want to do.
I'm not going to get my beak wet. If you and I go to Israel, will you slap on the yarmulke? Absolutely.
Absolutely. Will you kiss the wall? Absolutely.
Oh, yeah, sure. I mean, and my film is greenlit when? Do you have to kiss the wall? Is that the word? No, I don't know anything.
The wall is the way. Is that the wailing wall? I don't know.
But Mike Huckabee's over there like a good Christian. Oh, well, he loves it over there.
Because it's Easter Sunday. That's where he's supposed to be.
Because the fundamentalist Christians go hard with the Israel thing. They're like, let's go.
They think Jesus is coming back to that spot. Yeah.
What's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian, if Netanyahu called Mike Huckby and said, we're going to have to nuke Iran, he'd go, let's do it. That's what Jesus wants.
Let's do it. That's what Jesus would want, a nuclear war.
So that's where we've gotten. We've gotten to the point.
Jesus wants us to use the nukes. Where we have fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims

on the other side and everybody's playing this weird

game and

Yeah, there he is. Boy, he looks

old. Jesus.

This is just hilarious if this is the freeze frame

from the episode that we released. These guys

stop dying their hair at some point

in time and just say, oh, fuck it. You know, like

Stallone did. The best hat they have is the

Shrimel. They wear it in Brooklyn.
It's that big

furry Russian hat. Oh, I love that hat.

That hat looks sick. That is a sick.
You know, like Stallone did. The best hat they have is the Shrimel.
They wear it in Brooklyn. It's that big

furry Russian hat. Oh, I love that hat.

That hat looks sick. That is a sick hat.
It looks like something

out of Game of Thrones. Yeah, that's a hat.
Like,

I don't give a fuck what you think. Doesn't matter.

I'm a member of the tribe, bitch. I got strings

hanging from my belt. I got a hat.
And I'm rocking

up. I got a hat.
A bare dick hat.

Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty sick hat.

Yeah, I like that hat. I think people can't get

past the fact that, like, yeah, I mean, it's just sick. Yeah, look at that hat.
That has the shit. What's that made out of? Let's answer the question.
Why do Orthodox Jewish men? Where's Ari when you need him? That's a great point. Ari never had to wear one of those hats, though.
No, but he looked good. Yeah.
I got a ton of hats from different UFC fighters. Yeah.
From, like, Dagestan and from Kazakhstan. I got a cool Kazakhstan hat from Shavkat Ramak it's a sick hat that is pretty though it's an objective why don't they wear it Jamie there was an article that just said it before that the the fur one if you go back up in the upper left corner upper left corner yeah Jew in the city is the name of the website God God, I hope a Jewish person is running that website.
Otherwise, they're going to get assassinated. The fur hat is known by the Yiddish name.
How do you say that? Shrymal? Shrymal. Shrymal.
Yeah. The shrymal was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in the 18th century and coincided with the rise of Ascidic Judaism.
Technically, a shrymal is one particular style of hat. There are others.
One that might be familiar on site is the spodic. Oh, you fucking pop-up ad, cocksucker.
Enter your email. Which is taller and more cylindrical than a shrimel.
A shrimel is the style generally favored by a Hasidic sex of Polish descent. To the casual observer, however, they're all shrimel.
Strimal is made from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur.

Fur usually comes from the tips of the tails of sable, martens, or fox.

Nice.

Synthetic strimals do exist.

They're more common in Israel than elsewhere.

Interesting.

Strimal can cost thousands of dollars, so it's not uncommon for a Hasidic man to own a second, cheaper strimal,

so that his main strimal would not be battered by the elements.

Interesting.

Interesting.

It's a cool hat. Let everybody know you're part of the tribe.

It's a fun hat. Maybe comedians

mean like a thing that we wear. A hat?

Yeah, like a thing. That's very good.

We don't give a fuck. Yeah.
I like that

Kanye West black Klan suit.

That's dope. How about his giant swastika

in diamonds? Have you seen that? What's funny is a jeweler made that. Oh, yeah.
And a Jewish jeweler. Yeah.
One thousand Israeli Jewish guy made that. Significant markup.
Yeah. Yeah, of course.
I would. I'm going to give you a swastika tax.
I would. It's only fair.
Yeah, you need a tax. I think it's only fair.
If you want a Jewish man to make a swastika, you've got to pay extra. People got to separate, you know, and I think this is not, I think people got to separate like governments from people, intelligence agencies from people.
I think that's the whole thing. I think people are losing the ability to do that in this case, right? Because people, when you criticize Israel, you criticize something that may or may not have been done by a government or an intelligence agency, you're not criticizing people.
You're criticizing a group of people making decisions. I don't think America always does things that are in the best interest of the American people.
Right. Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort of picks sides during the COVID thing, whether or not we should trust the vaccine companies.
Because you did it because you're on the left and the people on the right were the ones who didn't want to take it so instead of just looking at it objectively the people on the left are like everybody who doesn't agree is a science denier and it got like really kooky because right it got ideological and as soon as it's ideological you can fucking justify anything this is how how Jewish Americans are justifying well Hamas uses people as human shields. They'll say things like that.
It's a way you can justify mass murder. It's a way you can justify anything, anything.
As long as the tribe on your side, whatever your clan is, you can justify things. And so people stop thinking.
They stop thinking and they just think completely along ideological lines. It's frustrating as fuck.
It is. It is.
And passionately. Yeah.
Very passionately. They're right.
You're wrong. No one is ever questioning anything.
No. Why do they question science? No one goes, wait a minute.
I think it's healthy to every now and then go, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah.
There that got released today that showed they just released today that showed that covid19 definitively came from that lab thousand percent 100 proof it came from that lab i read it uh a little bit of it on the way here yeah it's yeah nuts it's nuts man it's nuts these fucking people they just got roped into this and it was a man completely

man-made 100 disease 100 and they knew that from the moment it leaked the moment it happened and they just lied and fauci is just out there walking around that's an interesting it's an it's an interesting case when

someone like that in that position

repeatedly

lied to people

about the origins of that. Yeah.
And is allowed to just be free. And faces zero consequences.
Meanwhile, they were trying to put Trump in jail because he... Inflated the price of a condo.
Yeah. He got an appraisal that was higher and then they lied.
Well, their appraisal was horseshit. They lied about him.
Letitia James is now in trouble for the exact same shit? Really? You didn't see that? That makes sense. They're investigating her because she allegedly, according to Megyn Kelly, who I trust implicitly, allegedly went and got mortgages with her father listing them as husband and wife

on buildings multiple times, and then also lied about the amount of bedrooms that were in a place.

Because if it's four bedrooms, you get one tax rate. If it's five, it's more.
So she lied. It

was a five and she said it was a four. Right.
Well, this is what they all do. So I think really

the funny thing about all the cases that they brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were rooted in just politicized version of something that's pretty standard that a lot of people have done. Yeah.
They always overvalue their properties. Always overvalue properties and people get away with it.
And It's not a crime. But here's the thing about the Trump thing is that all the people had been paid.
So not only was it profitable for the banks, he paid everything on time. The loan, there was no criminal.
There's no crime. No one got victimized.
Nothing happened. They profited.
And then this crazy lady with a terrible past thought that she was gonna be able to pull this off because she was on the team that she thought was gonna win like yeah about putting all your eggs in one basket like well a bunch of morons it feels in on these things it feels like you have there's so we're in some kind of cold war between two factions in American politics that are using courts and lawyers to go at each other yeah it's not a hot war people aren't fighting in the streets but it does seem to be these parties seem to no longer view each other as different sides of the same coin there seems to be, especially when it comes to Trump, it seems to be like they cannot, you know, see him as anything other than an existential threat that has to be vanquished at any cost. Right.
And the problem with that is when you deny good things and only highlight bad things that everybody knows it, well, now you're playing a game and your game is I never tell the truth. I tell you parts of the truth that I like.
Yeah. And you got to win that game.
Yeah. If you're playing that game, you got to win.
Yeah. If you do all these things, they have to work.
And if Trump gets in office, even after you did all these things, well, now you're fucked. Then it's a problem.
You know, it's like with JFK, they got him. Yeah.
You know, obviously not good, but they got him. And then that slammed the door shut.
And then all their people came in and kept a cover up going on. I wish I really understood all this stuff that we talk about.
Yeah. Because there's an argument that we haven't had a real president since JFK got shot.
That's probably a good argument. And there's maybe arguments that we actually didn't have real presidents prior to JFK right so what do you think is happening now then do you think that I think you have these guys right here these guys that go into the CIA they they they they learn all about these underground groups they have all of these different relationships all over the world, right? Weapons, drug running, weapons, all of these different terrorist groups, crime syndicates, their job is to know information about every government, all of the separatist groups that could potentially take over and become the next government.
They have all of these connections. And then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make a buck.
That's the real question, right? It never occurs to any of these people that there might be a great way to make a buck working with some of these people outside of Congress, the White House, all of that. That's, as it's been explained to me by pretty smart people, that's what you have.
You have a rogue element of people in those agencies that have massive amounts of money. And they're they're very well connected.
And they're running weapons. And the president has no idea what's going on.
Right. And Congress has no idea what's going on.
They're not briefing a teacher from Georgia who got elected because he promised he was going to build a fucking shopping mall in a suburb of Atlanta about what they're doing in Syria. They're not briefing these people.
There's nothing democratic about what's happening. And so then you think to yourself, you're like, well, how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? Then we go, not only money, but that's when we bring in Ghislaine Maxwell.
That's when we bring in Jeffrey Ebsie, right? That's when we bring in people who go, let's all have fun. We've got a great weekend getaway planned.
And then we can all be on camera doing something that would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly disgusted and want to kill us. And the worst things ever are now on camera somewhere those tapes are somewhere now everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying what's going on yeah and you know and then those people are running a a parallel government it's a parallel command structure and that's a parallel government.

It's a parallel command structure.

And that's a huge problem.

And it was essentially completely in control for four years.

Probably for more than four.

But for the last four, for sure.

Thousand percent. That's the best example we've ever had of that.

Thousand percent.

That guy's never really running things.

Thousand percent.

There's no way they let him.

And it's probably still in control to a certain degree now because it's very hard to, when you have something like that happening, it is very difficult to completely shut it down. Very hard.
Well, here's a perfect example that we know it's definitely running things because Trump is still trying to figure out why he got shot. He was like, I want more information.
Yeah. Like there's no information.
There's not going to be information. There's not going to be information.
That's a crazy story. You should try to connect.
Like if it's not America that did it, if it's not us, it's an intelligence agency that did it. Then it means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and got him to climb on top of that roof.
Like somebody tried to get someone to assassinate a guy who's running for president. And no one seems to be interested in finding who that person or that group who influences kid is.
So many of these ex-intelligence chiefs pop up all over the world. They pop up in Dubai.
They pop up on MSNBC. They love traveling.
They're having meetings with people. they up all over the world they pop up in dubai they pop up on msnbc they love traveling they're having meetings with people they're all over the place and they're people and they're just they love people they love cultures they love meeting different cultures yeah the food's great and supposedly i heard from someone who's again smart and and i consider trustworthy that there's actually large sectors of the global economy that are moved more in this direction than you'd think.
Like there are tentacles into very large investment banks and private equity companies that a lot of these guys have. Let's put it that way.
Obviously, it's not a shocking thing. Why would the government let a private equity company operate with impunity? Right.
Especially if they're controlling regulations and they're like, let's work together. Right.
There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any of this. That becomes the real issue.
You ever get invited to these fucking Illuminati conferences or any of these crazy things? No. They wanted me to do stand-up at one conference and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind.
I think it was like a, I don't know, it was like some type of low-grade Illuminati. Yeah, that's how they start.
Like kind of faux Illuminati. That's like the minor leagues.
Yeah. And then eventually you go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming.
Well, that sounds nice. Actually, it does sound nice.
Maybe. No, I think that like, it does seem weird that a lot of once you get to a certain level people take an interest in you that never were interested you know for sure for sure yeah people are interested welcome to my world yeah it is strange that people seem to care about you um or what you're saying or people going, I think your read on that is wrong.
And you're like, why do you care what it is? I'm a fucking guy with a talk, you know, microphone once or twice a week. Yeah, but they don't like that.
They don't like people having influence that haven't been sanctioned. They don't like that.
Yeah, they want all influence to be top down, all influence to be a part of a giant corporation. Yeah, that's what they want.
They don't want that. Yeah, they want all influence to be top-down, all influence to be a part of a giant corporation.
That's what they want. They don't want influence to be just regular people.
Regular people are fringe. They're far this or far that.
They're problematic. They spew misinformation.
There's no one who spews more misinformation than CNN. They spew a lot.
How many times do you guys, just what you guys did over COVID, if you were a podcaster, you'd be shut down. Right.
Like if the podcasters were the one telling everybody to get vaxxed, you get it, you won't get, you won't spread it. You want this, you want that.
There's no side effects. If podcasters are saying that, but the establishment news was saying, hold on, this is an experimental vaccine.
We should not be asking women who are pregnant to take this this We should be not asking kids who are no danger to take this. We do not know the long-term consequences if podcasters were saying that You know Casters were on the the government side instead of CNN if CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to be cautious Right, they would want us prosecuted.
Yeah, they would be going after us for all the side effects that people are experiencing. You have blood on your hands.
You're responsible for strokes and heart attacks and myocarditis and all sorts of autoimmune issues. Well, you also have to think about how much easier it is for, let's say, an intelligence community to manipulate them than it is to come in here.
Like an intelligence community is not going to go, all right, let's find— All they have to do is bring me to the UFOs. No, no, no.
them that yes that's all you have to do that you want me to do very easy we're gonna go to work close I don't even know where Kosovo is on a map but if you tell me what the UFOs are I'll have a guy in here that explains why it's super important but it is funny it's like what they'd have to do is pick somebody have them become become a comedian, start a podcast, get an audit. Like it is difficult, right? Whereas if you work at a media company, it's very easy to just some new guys there.
Who's this? Right, right, right. Oh, you know what I mean? Somebody just shows up.
Hey, Suzanne. Run everything by Suzanne.
Hey, how does this guy, Bob Woodward, how does he get the most important? This is his first case. Lucky guy.
He gets Watergate. Lucky guy.
Wait a minute. What did he do for Navy intelligence? Right.
Lucky guy. That Watergate thing's so funny.
But I've been here for 30 years, Mike. Yeah, I haven't gotten anything.
Shut the fuck up. Bob's taking this case.
Bob's taking down Nixon, who keeps asking questions about what happened to Kennedy. Did you see when Bill Murray was here? I did, yeah.
Did you see the thing that he said about Wired, the book? Yeah. Wait, which one? Wired is the book on John Belushi.
He said, I read the first five pages, and I was like, oh my God, they set up Nixon. Oh, that's hilarious.
They framed Nixon. That's so funny.
That's what he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, if this is what they say, this is what the same guy said about John Belushi, which is 100% not true. Do you know John Belushi was a lightweight? Right.
He would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up. Right.
He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal coke-sniff.
No. It was all lies.
They don't care at all about getting any accurate information. That time that he died, it was probably the first time he ever did a speedball corn Wow Wow Yeah, and Bill Murray was one of his best friends Bill Murray knew Bill Mars like I've known this guy most of my life And then there he goes they frame Nixon, right? I told him the whole story that Tucker Carlson had told me yeah, which I was like what? That it was all FBI agents and the whole thing was a complete sting.
It was a sloppy burglary where they wanted to get caught. They traced it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing things they hated.
Well, this is the thing that got Nixon on. I don't know if you know, but what they said to Nixon is they told if Nixon was not guilty of the crime, but they told Nixon about the crime and then he helped them cover it up that's how they got him right but I mean what is he gonna do of course he thinks this is on the the legit and you come to him with the crime like oh Jesus Christ we'll don't fucking tell anybody Tim Jesus Christ Tim what did you do you bugged Cap City yeah fuck they had to get rid of him well this is what we're're going to throw our phones in the river.
Yeah. Right.
Here's what happens now. Okay, okay, okay.
How do we get out of this? Yeah. Where'd you put the bugs? Can we break in and take the bugs back? That's so funny.
They'd be so flattered if we bugged Cap City. I heard they hate us.
That's awesome. Somebody told me last night that they hate us.
I'm like, how do you hate me? I love you. I used to love the old Cap City.
If you got headliners and you need them, I'll promote it. I'll promote it on Twitter.
Yeah. And same thing with Moontower.
They're mad at me too because I wouldn't have them at the club. I'm happy to help you.
I'm happy to help you. I just don't want you to book my club.
Of course. That's all it is.
My club is sold out every night. Yeah.
And it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and all these. I don't want anybody else booking it.
It doesn't mean that I don't support your cause. Of course.
I just don't want you coming into my establishment. That's all it is.
I don't, I want everybody to do well. There's five comedy clubs on my street.
What you've done, I think, ultimately is good for the town. You bring people into into the town the problem is when people used to be in control of comedy in the town and then all of a sudden they're not and they used to be like the person that people would go to and now they're insignificant right you know yeah I think a lot of people struggle with that the idea of that that they're they're they're losing control I think they hate that to be the most, the angriest I've seen people online since the election that have railed against podcasts and they've railed against, they seem to be angry that they no longer have a monopoly on what people can hear.
Exactly. And they still continue to lie and misrepresent people that do podcasts right that are on a have a different opinion say and that's where it gets really stupid you know like they keep saying that you know when i had that daryl cooper guy on that i'm bringing on a nazi apologist and a holocaust denier like that is neither of those things are true.
Yeah. It's not true.
And the guy doesn't just talk about that. By the way, his stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational.
You know, Jim Jones was like a civil rights leader. Yeah.
Jim Jones had an interracial child. I didn't know any of them.
Yeah. Jim Jones was like, he had an adopted black child that he would take to school and everybody would be fucking furious at him in the town Yeah, and he was like he was a legitimate Christian like a real I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christian one of the big things in America cookie.
Yeah, of course the meth got him Yes, listen there are a lot of people question World War two for not good reasons Of course, it's like people that bring up the age of consent. You go right a minute hey what's going on what are you doing there are people there are people i think that do launder uh not great reasons for questions for questioning world war ii through whatever however no doubt no doubt there is a very interesting the the teeth really come out the gnashing of teeth come out in this country when you question at all the American war machine.
Yes. And the pageantry of war and the iconography of the state and of war and of how important it is and how just it always is and how we're always

on the right side of it and we're always doing the right thing and in world war ii we 100 percent

were but there are a lot of other times when we've made grave errors with our military yes and i feel

like it's not good enough for you can't just point to world war ii which is again we were correct

Thank you. it's not good enough for, you can't just point to World War II, which is, again, we were correct.
Yes. But I think there is this idea that if you, it's not an accident there's a million movies made about World War II.
It's not an accident that there is a lot of pageantry surrounding World War II. Well, also that the World War II movies have heroes.
Of course. Whereas the Vietnam movies are apocalypse now.
That's right. Everything's complicated and it's all chaos.
So I think that inspires the idea that a military solution is always correct and that the use of force is always the right way to do it. And that coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money and their children never end up fighting those wars.
That seems to be a lot of it. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people with bad motivations that are genuinely anti-Semitic or that genuinely have fascist inclinations or absolutely are.
But I think there needs to be space to criticize the mythologizing of war in general and the justification for endless wars all the time. Yes.
Like Iran. I hope Trump does not go into Iran.
That seems like a very bad idea. It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran to get nuclear weapons.
That seems bad too. Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without a regime change war.
This is what we have to do. This is what Tulsi Gabbard, I think, was very attractive about a lot of what she said during her confirmation hearing.
She goes, I understand that there are terrorists out there that are dangerous, but we got to find a way to deal with them without committing troops to stand there in an Islamic country. We've done this.
We saw this movie. It doesn't work out.
And I think we have to stop thinking that it's going to be better this time.

If we decapitate the head of a foreign government and we have American soldiers in an Islamic country trying to set up a provisional government, the nightmare of that during Iraq, Paul Bremer, this weird British looking guy that they sent to stand on that rebel rubble with his boots. And, you know, the mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier.
Like it brings like it brings back like you know to me it's like i get flashbacks from it do you remember the guy who was the iraqi uh public relations guy who was saying that they're winning the war was it was it akhman chalabi well no that was the guy that fed us all the bullshit to get us in no no no it was the guy that they people openly mocked i believe he glasses. And he was the guy that was always saying that Iraq is kicking ass.
Oh, interesting. No.
Yeah, Baghdad something or another they called him. And he was saying that we were doing good? No, no, no.
Oh, that we were getting... He was saying that Iraq is kicking our ass.
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Well, that's hilarious. I don't remember that.
Bad Dad something or another they called him. By the way, does anyone know what's going on in Iraq right now? Mostly flea markets.
If there was a gun to my head, I could not tell you what the state of iraq i know the taliban are in afghanistan what's going on in iraq listen listen listen you hear that ready that's a gay guy threw off a roof right right so that's what we spent that's a 20 year you know commitment or was a very? Right. So that's like, I feel like that's the thing, that when you ever try to have a nuanced understanding of what we can and can't do, I don't think it's a great idea that Iran gets nuclear weapons.
It seems like there are ways to prevent that. We've got to make ISIS in charge.
Full-scale invasion. But don't we need these? Like, I think, at these groups, like the Houthis and stuff.
We need these people. 100%.
We need them. And the Houthis are a fun one because they're on the ocean and they're like pirates.
This is new. They figured out that land-based stuff's not as interesting.
They're disrupting trade. You know how much of our trade goes through? It's 3%.
Hey, listen. 3%.
Don't minimize that. Just like I don't want you minimizing the female astronauts.
Yeah, but we need these Houthis. It feels like we need these groups.
We had ISIS. We had then ISIL.
Now, we had the people in Syria. I forget their names, something.
But we need these little groups. And this is what we do.
We just choose because all of these groups are not even. They're just people hanging out.
And then we give them weapons and get them going. They're just guys in a bar.
A lot of these groups are guys in a bar in Syria. They have a hole in the ground.
They're sitting a hole in the ground and we show up and we start arming them and giving them stuff and it's like that Bill Hicks joke where it's like pick up the gun. Are the Houthis an existential threat to the United States? That feels crazy.
The craziest thing was... It just feels insane.
Trump showing the video of them getting bombed. Oh yeah..
It's so wild. We could kill all—this is the problem.
We could get rid of all of these threats in five minutes. Yeah, but we don't want it.
But we don't seem to want to. It's not good for business.
Yeah, no. We've got to keep— It's like you can't come to a market every week.
You'll burn it out. No, the Houthis are good.
If you're doing stand-up, you've got to go once a year. You've got to go once a year, once every 18 months.
And I like the Houthis because they feel it's like a new, but they're not sticking. It's not, no one's believing it.
So now they're back to Hezbollah. Oh.
Hezbollah wears the fatigues. Ooh.
If you get up Hezbollah, they're scary looking. The Houthis are not that scary.
The Houthis look like a bunch of dudes in like a bazaar, like you said, like in a flea flea market. They're on a boat, they're holding up guns, no one cares.
Hezbollah looks genuinely like, okay, let's not fuck with these people. Well, it's like Shane's bit about the Iraqis or the Afghanis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going through the workouts.
We'd think they're like an elite army. Oh, God, yeah.
You couldn't do jumping jacks. You couldn't do anything.

But that's the whole thing.

It's like, it's this weird global chessboard of like, you know, as someone said to me once,

there's like a dial, you turn it up, you're like, more war, less war.

Yeah.

More war, less war.

I'm going to see right now if smelling salts are good for allergies.

Have you gotten any of the allergies out here?

No.

I don't get it. My first year of legitimately getting them cedar fever i think you gotta do cocaine they make allergy medicine too yeah that's no fun yeah maybe zertac or something that's no fun what is it the cedar i don't know what it is i But my nose has been running.
Did you hear the story at all? Mark Hopper actually might have helped the military capture Saddam Hussein. What? So they were on a USO tour in 2003, and they got asked to come in and do a private show.
And he sat down. It's like he's here.
He said, Sir, what about having drones fly all over the region in carpeting patterns, broadcasting time codes above the level of human hearing but at the level that a video recording would catch it? Hope it's suggested to the Admiral. Then the next time he releases one of his videos you could listen to it, pull the ultrasonic data and triangulate the drones you have flying all over.
Holy shit. This is the guy from Blink-182? I think his dad was in the military.
Someone was in something. He knew, yeah.
Okay, this brings me back to that fucking strange times in Laurel Canyon shit. Yeah.
Four months later, Sodom was located and captured in Iraq, so you're welcome, everyone. What a great book.
Well, not only the Tom O'Neill book, but then this Dave McGowan book, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. I lived up there when I was living in LA.

I lived up there.

And I'm telling you, that is the creepiest vibe of any area that I've ever been to in my life.

It's a weird vibe.

They have that fucking military installation at Lookout Mountain.

Jared Leto owns that.

He lives there now.

Doesn't he have a whole cult?

Shh.

Okay.

He's a good guy.

I'm sure he is.

I'm not saying it's bad to have a cult.

They tried to investigate his cult. Sure.
It turns out it's not really. It's just a bunch of people having fun.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There's no requirements.
No one asks you to fuck them. There's nothing that happens.
No, it's a voluntary fuck cult. It's not even a voluntary fuck cult.
It's just they get together and dance or something. I don't know what they do.
I lived there for three years. I didn't get one text.

Not one. I used to drive by and point at it and go, look, it's the thing.

What do they do? What does

Jared Littles... It's like a summer camp.

They call it Echelon.

It's a summer camp.

What the fuck's the problem with that, Tim?

How about Tim Dillon Fest?

I have no problem with that. It's basically Skank Fest.

Just a bunch of people eating shellfish in Long Island being racist Yeah, absolutely I have no issue with that at all what a fun time though for us Yeah, because everything's just taught me. There's just so much stuff to talk about everything's nuts.
Do you think you know I was on the all-in podcast the other day and they were talking about these chips, these NVIDIA chips, and how what's interesting is people are setting up – because we have these export controls that don't allow us to send certain chips to China because they're able to manipulate them and then become the world's largest semiconductor producer. But now all these fun fake companies are starting in like Bhutan or Cambodia and they're buying the chips or Singapore.
And then they all get back to China. Well, one of the guys who worked at whatever the preeminent AI system in China was saying, whistleblowers, was saying that they have 50,000 of these fucking banned chips.
That's so wild. Whoopsies.
And so they were talking about, like, is it better to send them the chips? Or is it better to, if you don't send them the chips, then it spurs their innovation and they make the chips? Well, either way, they're going to get the chips. Yeah.
They're getting the chips. They're both innovating and stealing at the same time.
Can there be anything done to stop their rise? Nah. Not at this point.
Doesn't feel like it, right? They're so much more technologically advanced in so many different areas now. Yeah.
Like, the drones that they have are so superior to the commercial drones that we have. Because drones over here, you have to have a pilot's license to drive the really spicy ones.
Do you think some of those drones over in New Jersey were theirs? Could be. I think they were ours honestly do.
Otherwise, I think they would have shot them down if they could. I don't know if they could.
And maybe they wouldn't because then it would alarm people. Because then you would show that that is a legitimate threat.
We're fighting for satellite supremacy in the sky, too. That's crazy.
Crazy. The internet, the Starlink.
I mean, essentially, Elon's launching Starlinks all over the fucking Do you worried all about the tech people being Democrats up until five minutes ago? Yeah, you should but you know, I think a Lot of those people have shifted sides and they've shifted sides because they understand that well, you know I had Marc Andreessen in here and Marc Andreessen was explaining he said the most terrifying meetings we ever had was when we were part of an ai startup and the government came in and said we're not going to let you do this right not only are we not going to let you do this we're not going to let anybody do this we're going to have a small amount of these things we're going to completely control yeah he was like what the fuck like you guys are really openly saying this yeah you're going to inhibit innovation at the highest level of technology. Some shit that you probably don't even understand, but you want to have absolute control over it.
I think the worry is that people don't trust the government, nor should they. But I don't know if they trust these tech guys either.
You shouldn't. Yeah.
You shouldn't. Look what's going on with open AI.
That's the whole thing. I think that people are wary of the tech people because they've now – these were the same people that were censoring and kicking people off the internet when the people in the white house were blue right and now that the people in the white house are red they are it's swung back the other way exactly so i think people are a little wary of that yeah they don't know where that goes it's just power it's just it's just i mean like bernie sanders is right in that you should be scared of oligarchs and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government.

He's right in that regard.

And when people get into positions of just unchecked power, so let's say if someone had control of some tech company, let's say it's an AI company, and that AI company literally creates the unstoppable AI that helps empower the entire country. And this one guy's in control, and he's worth $3 trillion now.
And he decides to lobby and change a bunch of laws and influence politicians. And his company starts donating to certain politicians.
You could change the fabric of society with enough money and enough power and enough influence, especially if you could completely control what the narrative is in terms of like when people Google things, when they search things, when they talk about things, you can completely control what they're allowed to talk about and how that narrative gets countered instantly with facts and bullshit. Yeah.
Well, it's being done everywhere, right? So it's being done at the highest levels. And I think people are uncomfortable with just losing, even though a lot of them realize that we didn't have a ton of control.
They feel like, I think when you head into the world of tech where people just don't even know

where this goes,

where does it go? Does it go to transhumanism? Does it go to

like AI replacing everybody

and then at what point

what do you do with those people that AI replaced?

Do you give them all cryptocurrency that's linked

to their biological whatever?

I've heard all these ideas, right?

Like, how do you deal with driverless cars where if the entire road is automated how do you deal with that i think that fills people with an anxiety where they go what is the plan and a lot of these tech cars like well we got to get off the planet and i think people start going like wait you know like that's weinstein eric wants a lot of people that's a like, I'm staying. I don't know what you're saying.
There's a lot of people. There's no air on Mars.
Let's not go there. Yeah.
Well, for sure. For sure.
Do you think Trump and Musk will have a falling out eventually? I don't know. It's a good question.
The media keeps trying to push that they are. It feels like they're just big personalities in that there's an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly you know perhaps but elon is very smart and you see he's always very deferential yeah and and he's always very respectful mr president it's always that of course sir that's how i treat him.
I always call him. Yeah, it's Donald Trump

Yeah, I get it. You're fired.
I get it

But he's also the president of the United States. I call him sir, but I call everybody sir.
Yeah, I call everybody sir

Yeah, it's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now, right? Sure. Yeah, but I don't know if they're gonna

You don't get pulled over anymore here. And if I do it's not that big of a deal.
If you get pulled over here, a cop gives you money. They go, Mr.
Rogan, here's a check. I mean, there's no way.
There's no law that you cannot break here. I'm guaranteeing you.
I don't think that's correct. I think you could do a lot.
I think they would cover up a murder. That's sweet.
If you murdered three people, I think the awesome PD would go, whatever, man. He's doing a lot.
They'd bring that mayor, that guy, and he'd go, what? They'd go, yeah, the suspect's Joe Rogan. He was standing over the bodies.
They'd go, are you out of your fucking mind? Drive him home right now. Drive that man home.
If I was in waist deep in Rainy Street, drowning a party goer. They don't don't care bro they still don't want to admit that there's a serial killer you're the tourism board um yeah no there there's something's up there's a serial killer something's going on I believe there's a serial killer and what are they doing they're luring people to that bridge and then yeah it's not hard people like to go to the bridge look out for the bushes.
So weird. I guess it's such a high to kill someone.

To me, I'm like, what do you get out of it? But I guess the people that are doing it like it. They're broken.
There's broken people. Some broken people do meth, and some broken people drown guys who like to party.
Do you ever talk to like, I'm sure you have, this is a stupid question, but like the high level law enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff? Oh, yeah. And is.
And do they believe that it's like, is there any part of them that believes someone's just born? Yes. Interesting.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's generally, you have psychotic parents. And so whether it's nature or nurture is hard to separate because you're probably abused.
And generally at an early age, they show a willingness to torture house pets and stuff like that. Animals.
Yeah. They'll maybe start off with a frog they catch and stick a firecracker in its mouth and stuff like that.
And then they eventually work their way up to humans. Now it seems so much harder to do it because of these phones, surveillance.
It is, but it's... still do it not in austin you can get away with drowning you can drown people why don't you think they'll admit it they don't want people getting spooked it's a good question it's a good question maybe um maybe i'm wrong i mean one of the biggest things ever in austin were those crazy yogurt shop murders hbo just came out with a documentary about that.
When was that? It was many years ago.

This crazy yogurt shop murder thing.

HBO just did a doc.

Happened in Austin.

It was like a famous case.

And it's completely unsolved.

Except they put some people in jail for it.

But then later let one of them out.

It was just one of those things where nobody was sure about what happened.

So they were murdering people that went to the yogurt place?

It was 1991.

And just South by Southwest, they just did a huge oh it was one homicide a quadruple homicide which took

place at i can't believe it's yogurt shop in austin that could have been me in 1991 wow it's

uh 34 years ago 34 years ago it's an underbelly. 14 girls were murdered in Austin.

Wow.

14, yeah.

Wow.

And they don't know who did it?

They don't know.

It's an unsolved murder.

I checked the boyfriends.

And there's many different theories about it.

Wow.

That's crazy.

Four men were arrested and charged a capital murder in 99, but two of their cases were overturned the other two never went to trial Wow Interesting, so there are these things that happen. Oh, yeah Well, that's what they say that if you just randomly shoot someone and kill them Like if you're a real real like rando like did you ever see that movie Henry portrait of a serial killer? No, it was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas.
Oh, wow. Yeah, and Henry Lee Lucas was attributed, they attributed like 62 murders to him.
The problem is, I think one of the things cops do is they go, did you kill this guy? Yeah, I killed him too. Where'd you bury him? Where was he buried? Oh, that's where I buried him.
Oh, right. That kind of thing.
Now you got a case solved.

That was the accusation about Henry, because he was definitely a murderer and a grifter and a drifter, and he was traveling around the country stealing things.

But then they made a movie about him, and in the movie, he's way more sinister and calculated, but he would just randomly kill people.

So they'll take credit for things they didn't do. Exactly.
To just beef up the body count. Exactly.
Self-abrandizing. Because that's what they want.
They want attention. They're already in jail.
That's so wild. Yeah.
Yeah. When you have shitty DAs and shitty prosecutors and shitty cops, they'll do stuff like that.
Do you think that there are people that are... National Park seemed to be like a hotbed of people disappearing.
Yeah, Appalachian Trail people. Yeah.
Do you think that's people getting you or is that a lot of it like I got lost, I got eaten? You get lost. Yeah.
You get eaten. There's a guy who has this whole series, is it 9-1-1 missing or 4-1-1 missing people in National parks? Listen, man, you're just meat out there and you get eaten.
And by the way, you don't find dead anything out there. You don't find dead mountain lions.
Guess what? They die all the time. I've never seen a dead mountain lion when I was hunting.
Because they get eaten. They get eaten.
Everything gets eaten. Not only do you get eaten, your bones get eaten.
Everything gets eaten. So it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace.
No trace. Yeah.
Yeah, super common. So if you're in a high traffic area, like I've hunting, I've found elk bones where a hunter killed the elk and then took all the meat off the bones and then left the bones there.
That's what you do when you pack out meat. Yeah.
And I found those animals. I actually even found one animal that I shot a long time ago.
I shot like four years ago. And you found it.
Yeah. We were in the same location.
It was the same bones. There wasn't all the bones there left.
Right. Some of them have been dragged away.
Some of them have probably been eaten by rodents. You know, they eat the bones.
Yeah. Slowly but surely.
And if you're a human, you're made out of nothing. You're so easy to eat.
Our bones are less dense. Our meat is soft and chewy.
We get devoured. A bear would eat your whole body.
There would be almost nothing left. And rodents would eat what's left.
Yeah. You've got.
You've got to be careful in those places. You can't be careful.
Yeah. Like, if you don't have a GPS navigation system that has a lot of batteries, if you don't have a compass and know how to use it, if you don't have a map, it's so easy to get lost in the woods.
Right. It's so easy.
Yeah. They're all around you, and you can go in one direction and circle around.
You don't even realize you're circling. Right.
And then three days later, you're back to where you started. You're like, fucking no.
Yeah, it's terrible. You've been eating tree bark for three days.
It's insane. And you're thinking, any step, I'm going to see the highway.
What a horrible thing. People die like that all the time.
All the time. All the time.
Just go to a hotel. It's very difficult to navigate yourself.
Just go to a resort. If you don't know the woods, you You're not used to being in the woods and you're not used to having landmarks Yeah follow and know how to use a compass know how to use a GPS some people are good at it And even they get eaten the other getting to well you break your ankle, right? How about you break your ankle out there and you can't hike out? It's not possible right what do you do?.
You fucking die. That's what you do.
Gotta be very careful.

And you hear something at night. You're sleeping

under a tree and you hear something at night.

Right. Right.

You got a bear sniffing you. It's crazy.

You can't run away. And you don't have a weapon.

You can't do anything. It just eats you alive.

And those woods are so dense in the Pacific Northwest

and stuff like that. I mean, everywhere.

Especially the Pacific Northwest.

Especially there. It's like crazy.
Yeah. You don't find nothing out there.
But that's why the Bigfoot rumor persists up there. It's because the woods are like a box of Q-tips.
Right. You know, like you can't see shit out there.
You don't know what the hell's going on. You see like a little shadow moving in between trees and you've decided it's a Bigfoot.
Right. Yeah.
But it's just like... A bear.
It could be, right. Yeah, it's most likely a bear.
Especially bears walking on two legs northern, California is weird like that too I mean that's part of the Pacific Northwest probably yeah, you get killed up there. Yeah people die up there all the time Did you ever see that? documentary Sasquatch no, it's a documentary that was I wasn't on Hulu Jamie we had the Director and it the guy who created it was awesome and it what's really about is about marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot.
Wow. So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, like up that area.
Yeah, Murray Mountain. So they all were hippies, right? And then they started growing weed and then cartel people moved in and gangs moved in.
And they started rob these people so these people became heavily armed and so they started having wars with like the growers and cartel people and so there was these people that were trying to steal from them they murdered these people and then they blamed it on bigfoot they like ran over them with a fucking backhoe and crushed these hippies are really violent oh they get. Oh, they get violent once it's money.
These hippies are junkies.

And this whole hippie thing, I think, is kind of a lie.

Well, they all become people with money.

Right.

If you're growing weed.

You become a multimillionaire who's carrying a sidearm.

Okay?

And you're going to protect your money.

And then these people are trying to kill you to take your shit.

So then you're like fucking Jason whatever his name is in Ozark. Right.
What's his right what's jason bateman jason bateman right and now you're a drug dealer that's so funny it's so it's so funny the weird like marijuana where it's like it's federally still illegal but like states it's legal in certain states yeah and there's that gray area where there's just like you have half of that business is like in the shadows and half of it's and people make lots of money it's strange well not only that because california made it legal they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally right so what happens is these cartels started growing it on national forest land and so then game warden started finding it there's a guy named john norris who's been on the podcast before he wrote book called Hidden War. Yeah.
And it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting cartel members who were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests. That's crazy.
Yeah. Because most of the illegal weed that's been sold all over the country was being grown there.
So in the places where it is illegal, they grow it where it's legal. And if they get busted, it's just a misdemeanor.
So it doesn't matter. And they're not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary state.
Right. So it doesn't matter how many acres and acres of weed.
Exactly. Exactly.
Yeah. And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when there was the prohibition that propped up organized crime.
Same thing. You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that has a demand that normal.
Do you think weed's going to be federally legal? If I had to guess, not during this administration. Yeah.
No, I don't think. It feels like a lot of the experimental harm reduction policies in places like Portland are going the other way.
Well, they went a little crazy in a place that was already crazy. Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up called the Stabbing Wagon.
And she was like, if somebody needed a fix, she'd pull up and give them clean needles and stuff. Is it really called the Stabbing Wagon? It was called the Stabbing Wagon.
For real? Yeah, because you're stabbing. And if you're just tweeting...
Oh, my God, Portland. No, this is like a way to help oh poor this was a way to help people and people just be chilling and like hey I need a couple of clean needles so this woman would just show up there'd be like a bunch of junkies hanging out she'd shop she'd hop out of the stabbing wagon with a bunch of clean needles hand them out people like fuck yeah good to see you oh my god and she's like fuck yeah I hope you're all doing good.
And they're like, well, you know how it is. Oh my God.
And the problem was, that didn't work. Not only did it not work, it encouraged people to move there to shoot up.
Yeah, actually that's true. So people started moving there because they're like, this is actually a pretty good deal.
They don't care if you live on the street and there's this bitch in a van that shows up with clean needles They give you money. Yeah, and whatever you need they give you free money and food.
Yeah. Yeah Here it is the stabbing wagon Stabbing wagon harm reduction.
No, I mean it's real. She only has 4,000 followers.
That's fucked hit that follow Jamie hit a little follow on her There you go. Look at the step.
There's a stab and wagon. Well at least she's healthy It's the wagon.
Okay. Makes sense.
So at the end of the day, it's like that seems like a good way to combat drug use is to have a van of drugs. That van got a $1.5 million grant.
Did you see that? Did you see that in the previous article? Of course. $1.5 million grant.
Well, because they're trying to help people. Get high.
They're trying to help people get high in a safe way. Bro, where she parked that van? That's what I need to know.
I mean, it's a good question. She probably lived in the Burbs and then came in and then did what she needed to do.
She doesn't look like a Burbs lady. Well, that's a good point.
You know those Pacific Northwest suburbs? A lot of them aren't my Burbs. The ones that I like.
Very odd. Those people are...
It's different. They're like people that live outside of Chernobyl.
Yeah. They're forever changed.
It's different. There's not a lot of sun up there.
Something's going on. Bad DNA damage.
What was funny is there was a big article where they were like, yeah, this is actually ... What's crazy is you read about those cities, like Portland and San Francisco, they'll do the craziest thing ever, and then two years later, they'll start going like, yeah, this just is not having the results that we thought it would have.
This is, drug use is up. Crime is up.
Violence is up. So Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's been violent crimes at night.
No way. They're thinking about doing a curfew in Santa Monica.
So again, because Santa Monica is thinking about doing a curfew because there's like violent crimes. So instead of just going, OK, we got to throw these people in jail.
Like it's nine o'clock. Go home.
This is California. This is the biggest economy in our country.
and they're thinking of having occurred because they're all out of ideas on how to like stop people from like being victims of violent crime bro i got friends who can't sell their houses there no it's bad i'm glad i got i sold my house when it did nobody wants to buy houses there nobody wants to buy houses they're like we're getting out everybody who's not out is at least thinking about u Uber rich people are, a lot of them are just

keeping their houses because they can't get the money

they want. So like

people that are like in Bel Air, those crazy

things, right? Beverly Hills,

Bel Air, these behemoths.

They're just kind of like, just leave it.

You gotta hope that like there's some crazy

celebrity rapper guy, like

Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion.

You know what I mean? Like if you're selling a

$70 million house, you have like five people

that will buy it. You also gotta hope that

Thank you. crazy celebrity rapper guy like Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion.
You know what I mean? Like if you're selling a $70 million house, you have like five people that will buy it. You also got to hope that they elect Rick Caruso and he goes around California in a tank.
With a bunch of guys in bazookas and it's like the craziest thing you've ever seen.

That's all you can hope for.

You need like a Rudy Giuliani type character. Yeah, I mean, you need Sergeant Slaughter from the old WWF.

I mean, you need a fully fascist.

You need a guy to run as a fascist. When they go, are you a Republican? He goes, no, no, no, no, no.
I am a fascist? This is a military dictatorship. You need four years of a military dictatorship in California to just turn it around.
To just start steering it the other way. Well, it's moving red.
That's one thing you saw by the electoral map from 2024. California is moving red.
Yeah, it's going red. Yeah, slowly but surely.
There's always so many times you can wake up in a $4 million house with a gun in your mouth before you start thinking differently about it. Did you see they were trying to pass laws where they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone breaks into your house?

Yeah. Like you shoot them too many times.

Right.

In the middle of being terrified.

Absolutely.

They will always take the side of the people that are trying to destroy civilization.

Always.

Always.

Do you think that when you don your tinfoil hat and velcro the chin strap, do you think that this is a grand plan to destroy civilization? I think what you have, I don't know if it's a grand plan, but I think what you have is you have two things that are happening simultaneously. You have the people, the last people that seem to want to be in politics are people that believe in like nothing.

They're like empty suit Gavin Newsom types who just really don't seem, they just whatever room they're in.

Wait a minute.

Have you seen his podcast?

Yeah.

Well, that proves my point.

That proves my point now, right? He's a believer. So now he's like, oh, things are going right.
I'll go to the right. Things are going to the left.
I'll go to the left. So you have like these people that just don't, they will not like Sanders or Trump, whatever you think about them.
They're not going to like, quote, stand on business. They're not going to tell people, here's where I'm at.
This is the way I feel. They're just empty empty vessels and then at the same time you have that happening you have the craziest people in the world that somehow have gotten hold of a ton of money and a ton of influence on social media and those empty suit politicians are like scared of these lunatics that believe the craziest things you've ever heard.
So these politicians are just like taking edicts from these crazy people online who tell them that we need the stabbing wagon and we need all this stuff. I don't know how that happened, that somebody should look at that, how that happened and study it.
And I think it's a lot of these politicians are deeply corrupt. And I think they're terribly afraid of whatever corruption they're involved with coming to the surface.
And it could be personal in their personal life. It could be with the state.
I think, you know, the mismanagement of money, of resources, all of that stuff. So if I was a really corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left wing shit so that I could never be accused of anything.

Good move.

And I would just let them do whatever the hell they want.

I go, yeah, well, fucking whatever.

We got a new law that says you got it.

You got it.

You got they got to draw blood in your house from you before you can defend yourself.

We need a rapper.

Yeah. Rappers are the last people in this before you can defend yourself.
We need a rapper. Yeah.

Rappers are the last people in this country that can kind of get away with almost anything.

Well, rappers are honest.

A lot of them, even though they might lie about how much money they have and stuff,

there's a certain honesty to that genre of music.

Clearly, you can go too far like P. Diddy.

You can go too far.

But he wasn't super honest.

He seemed to be concealing a bit. He seemed to seemed to be yeah do you think he was working for somebody or working with somebody or do you think it was all his own personal if the cia was like we can't really we don't really know anything about like these these this world of like you know that's not what we do we're like a bunch of harvard guys and we have these fucking weirdos that we we know about how to get in with like our people.
But we need someone who was like a black guy to do it. It could have been P.
Diddy. But didn't all the accusations come out after he was involved in a lawsuit with Ciroc? Like he was trying.
That's what people said. Yeah.
That's where it gets interesting. Right.
Yeah. I mean, it's going to be- You've got to be very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions.
Big, powerful billionaires are probably their own governments. Yeah.
So, I mean, when you run afoul of them, I think there's many ways at which they can get you. Also, they feel like they pay so much money for taxes.
I think that's a lot of these intelligence agencies are working for those people. They're not, I think, on their own.
There are there's big money to be made. And there's a lot of the people that own these companies and have been rich for a very long time and who aren't, you know, on reality TV.
And you don't really know know who they are but they like some of them are on the forbes list some of them aren't some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made their money in ways that you could barely understand and those are people that you know are the reason historically that the cia is going into latin america and overthrowing government so that United Fruit can, you know,

it's true.

Have a monopoly. Have a monopoly, right?

So they're doing things

at the behest of these

ultra-wealthy families

that control huge industries.

Sure, and they always have.

I mean, that's back to Smedley Butler's

War as a Racket.

Thousand percent. Yeah, and that was 1933

he wrote that or something.

And that's the way

the whole thing seems to be organized.

Yeah, and always has been.

We're just learning it now.

You know, that's all the difference.

But it is falling apart now

because some of their kids

are doing stand-up comedy.

No, literally.

I mean, there are people,

they're young in New York

and they're just like,

their parents are some

of the wealthiest people in the world

and these kids are like doing stand-up up, which is terrible sign for the empire. That's not a great sign for the empire.
Is that like a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is like doing dick jokes. Well, he probably has a trust fund.
So he probably has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. It's like, I want to have fun.

I want to be like my dad.

Yeah.

Have a fucking heart attack when I'm 49.

That's right.

But we need them doing that.

Some of them.

Having heart attacks?

Yes.

Everyone can't be a clown.

There is something deeply unhealthy about the Illuminati doing stand-up.

I don't love that idea.

Well, unless they're using ChatGPT,

how good could their material be?

It's not ideal.

It can't be.

It's a lot of crowd work.

And even if they do use ChatGPT,

ChatGPT has not shown any ability

to really craft a good joke yet.

It's just funny to meet some of these people

and then you talk to them

and they'll casually drop that they're like,

you know, their parents are like billionaires. And you're like, that's that's awesome man and they're just doing bar shows it's kind of interesting and they're nice people but just to pull out and look at it from a sociological standpoint it says something about people's idea of the future that these people just like want to be famous now how many of them are there there's some more than you'd think really And it's a New York thing? Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there.
And I'm talking about mega rich. Not like, hey, my dad's a successful whatever.
I'm talking about like, whoa. Billions.
Big money. Yeah.
Where you go, interesting. And then the kids don't have any pressure to do anything.
The kids kind of float around and they're doing stage it's just very funny. It's something that makes me laugh.
It's just like a billionaire kid on stage looking at someone in the audience going, what do you do for a living? A lot of crowd work, huh? Yeah, what do you do for a living? Maybe this is the first time they've met people that aren't billionaires. That could also be a thing.
This might be a way to just socialize Illuminati kids. They've met their housekeepers before.
Maybe they ask them, like, what should I talk about on stage? Well, yeah, I mean, they have and what's funny is they have parties in their big houses and bring their other comic friends who are bums. You know, young comics.
I mean, we're all bums. So then, like, the parents are like, hello.
And they bring in, like go, this is my buddy. He's stealing from the buffet.
He's just staring at them going, whoa, this place rocks. It's like a sitcom.
Yeah. And they're like, these are my friends.
And I think the parents are kind of like, oh, well, isn't that nice? So maybe it's a phase. I think the parents look at it like they're going through a phase.
That's interesting that there's more than one of them doing stand-up. It says something about that group of people that used to run everything.
They have a dearth of purpose in their life. They're kind of aimless and they float around.
I don't mean specifically rich comedian kids. I just mean like that ruling class, what are they doing now? They don't really have a purpose.
They kind of float around. They try to do this new age spirituality bullshit.
They travel all over the place. You look at any of these rich kids' Instagrams, all they're doing is traveling.
It's all the same shit. We're going to Anguilla.
Go here, go there. There's no purpose.
I think they don think they don't feel like America's has a defining mission. Like if you look at families like the Kennedys, the Bushes, whatever you think about those families, they served in the military.
They believe that there was some type of arc of history that they were a part of. I feel like a lot of rich people now just kind of don't believe in much of anything.
And it's just kind of like, I don't know, bored, they start a fake company. Well if your whole focus is just making more money, how much time can you spend believing in things? That's going to take away from your ability to earn.
I think that's one of the big problems now and that's why I think you saw a lot of people get crazy on the left and they started instituting like all these like weird virtue, you know, these purity tests and stuff like that is because I think they feel a lack of meaning and they wanted to give them a lot of them wanted to be self-flagellation. And like they wanted the tenets of religion.
They wanted meaning. They just don't have it.
So I think that's what happens with a lot of them. And their kids are nice people.
They're not bad people.'s just funny to see like because most people who do comedy a lot of them are poor a lot of them are like middle-class people because they have like the ability right to go and at least think it's an option right but it is funny when someone goes I'm a I'm doing comedy and I'm from on the scion of great wealth science a great it's an interesting thing to me just because I've always been fascinated with rich people and like these people that run the world. And it's so interesting that some of their kids are like, I want to, I'm going to do standup comedy now.
When was the first time you met a really rich person? How old were you? I met a couple of like mafia people that my dad used to play music. So they own some bars, but they weren't super rich.

I would observe them because my uncle was a director of operations for all these restaurant groups in New York City, this restaurant group in New York City that had these big high end steakhouses.

And I would go and one of them was on 63rd and Park.

I would sit in this steakhouse with my parents.

I was probably eight or nine years old and you'd look around and I said to my dad once I was like maybe 10 or 11. And this is a weird thing to say to a 10 or 11 year old.
I was like, who are these people? My dad goes, these people run the world. I was just very fascinated by all these like people that were so different because in Long Island where I came from, everyone was loud and, you know, fighting all the time.
And, you know, my best friend, Josh, who lived two houses down from me, his mother, Eileen, would scream at his father in the front yard and he was like a conductor for the railroad and she would just go why didn't you do and then you would go to Manhattan and a lot of these restaurants that my uncle had you'd see these kind of quiet people and they were all very well dressed and they were in suits and you know in Manhattan they live in these stone townhouses like you you know, Epstein did. They live in these little mini stone townhouses.
And I was just fascinated. I was like, it's very interesting.
These people are interesting. What are they up to type of thing? Right.
And then you start reading about them. And, you know, it is just super interesting because they're a very big reason why society looks the way it does.
100%. You know, And that to me was an interesting thing.
It's like, why are certain people in certain positions? What role do the politicians play? And what role do these really quiet rich people play? Yeah. That are kind of waspy and could be Jewish, could be anything.
They're just kind of like, you know, they're quiet. They don't really want you to know too much about them.
They really value their privacy. So it's funny with the kids doing stand-up comedy to me,

and even these rich people that go on these reality shows,

it's interesting that it used to be sacrilegious,

the idea that you would show people how much money you had

or that you would talk about yourself.

And a lot of that started to change.

Like a lot of these rich people just want to be famous.

It almost feels like it's the last thing left.

Well, most young kids today, when they ask them,

what do you want to be?

Thank you. of that started to change like a lot of these rich people just want to be famous almost feels like it's the last thing left well it's attention young kids today when they ask them what do you want to be a giant percentage of them say famous they want to be an influencer they want to be a tick tocker a youtuber they want they want to be famous because why would you want a job like your parents have when you could just open sneakers yeah open so i'm going to do an unboxing show That That's a good point.
Yeah, like why would you want a regular job? Yeah. Regular jobs are soul-sucking, especially if you work.
Look, it's one thing if you have a career. Sure.
One thing you start your own business. It's something exciting.
There's another thing to be working for somebody. Working for somebody is horrible for the most part.
It is, but I think people can derive enjoyment from things outside of their jobs. Sure, but that leaves you one-third of your day that's been eaten up yeah you have one-third of your day for sleep one-third of your day that's been eaten up by this bullshit job yeah and then the remaining hours

between commutes right and whatever the fuck you eat yeah all has to be wrapped up in it is it is

I get it I totally get if you're a young kid you go on YouTube you go I want to be David Dobrik

I don't want to be David Dobrik he's like a big guy guy on YouTube. Okay, he does He's like a mr.
Beast type. He's not as big mr.
Beast is like a planet. Yeah, but Dobrik's big You know or whoever like they look at these young and they entertain like younger people He does fun videos about like hey, I'm whatever.
I don't know that You know, it's always the same. It's like what's like what if i fill the pool with m&ms whatever you know it's like that type of thing you know right it's not like the ukraine deep dive or whatever it's uh it's a fun like goofy thing and kids look at that and go well that guy's making a lot of money he has a great car he's got a hot girlfriend he lives in a big mansion i want to be that guy of course but i think they missed guy works really, really hard.
Right. Like, that's the thing that I think people don't understand about these social media people.
They do have a crazy constitution in terms of, like, how much they post. How hard they work.
Now, you might say, okay, the stuff they do is ridiculous or silly or not valuable, and I might agree on a lot of those things. But they are always putting it out.
Yeah, they're showing up. They're always showing up.
Yeah. If you want to compete in any market, anything, no matter what you do, there's a certain amount of work you have to put in.
The idea that it's easy. There's got to be some reason why most of them don't rise to the top.
Right. What is it? How do you feel about, can you teach people to work hard? I'm sure you can.
What do you think? Because I've seen so many people that are super talented, but for whatever reason, they're not that muscle of working hard or the dedication to it. I think generally it has to be established early in your life And if you you don't establish that early in your life, it's not a thing that you gravitate towards not right You don't recognize that oh hard work equals results You know if you get lucky you do sports because sports make it physically uncomfortable They test your will you know if you're a marathon runner and you got to get up every day and do those fucking miles, like that will test your will.
You know, if you're doing track and field or football or anything you're doing where it's a lot of work, like, and then you realize I've gotten better because of all this work. And I, if I work harder, maybe I could be the starting quarterback.
If I work harder, maybe. And that's, that's a real factor for young kids.
I think getting them into any sort of difficult physical endeavor whatever it is competitive physical endeavors make you that's why I thought that show dance moms was good that fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded greatness and would make them cry I thought that was good you never saw a dance on it. This woman, Abby Lee Miller, she screamed at these young kids and one of them became Jojo Siwa, so it's not like there was any damage done.
And, uh, you know, I think it's good. I like to see greatness demanded of children.
This lady, look at her hair. Watch this woman here.
Push the envelope. You will jump higher.
You will turn faster. That's right.
You will also act. You will sing.
You're not just preparing for a dance competition every weekend. We're preparing for you to become stars in Los Angeles.
How does that bitch know how to be a star in Los Angeles? Look at her. She can't get a seat at Roscoe's.
By the way, I guarantee you she can get a seat at Roscoe's. Really? That's the one place.
If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her on Roscoe's? The first thing, I would kick someone out for her on Roscoe's. But yeah, it is interesting that a lot of these kids now, they just look at the followers.
Sure. How do you feel about, you're a parent, you do you when the jonathan height book comes out and he goes we should get rid of phones for kids until they're 16 does that make sense or not really you know because then you alienate your kids look it's a new world that they have to learn how to navigate and if they don't learn how to navigate until they're 18 they're at a huge disadvantage they they gotta understand that it's just people talking.
But there's a lot of pressure. Like for young girls, it's the worst time because they're comparing themselves to all these other girls.
You're seeing a rise in eating disorders, self-harm, suicide, suicidal ideation. And it's a lot of it is like they get depressed comparing their life to other people.
And when you're young and you don't understand, you're 13, you don't get how your mind works and you're just sad every time you open up your Instagram app and you don't look anything like these ladies who don't look anything like that either. Right.
Which is really crazy. Right.
You know, and your head is filled with all of this. Yeah.
Unhealthy thoughts. I kind of got off social media for the most part, um, real recently over the last few days i'm barely on it right and i feel better right i feel way more normal right way more like not constantly like checking to see what's going on what's going on what's going on what's going on what's happening in the world right instead just like i'll find the bad things they'll come to me for sure you'll get it you'll they'll figure it out so i check in the morning like i'll make sure there's no war going on and then I go about my day the whole day and then maybe I check again in the afternoon real quick now I'm not spending like massive amounts of time anymore no and because of that I feel better and I'm like okay people that give up their phones always talk about that and they hear birds and all this bullshit you know well you feel better you feel like there's not this low hum of wondering what's going on in the world all the time and wondering who's saying this and why are they doing that? And how's the what's the new thing? What's this? What's that? It is good to detach it is interesting imagine if you just didn't even engage like didn't really look weren't in it at all Fascinates man way better for you So you think it would be miserable to just be happy somewhere Woody harrelson doesn't even have a phone really done that phone doesn't have email no No, and he showed up at the club.
He just sort of showed up. They said Woody Harrelson's here like okay.
Let him in Wanted to hang out new. I was there just Wow find you and hang out with you Yeah, he's like he's smart.
He doesn't build Murray's the same way doesn't connect to any he said i had to get a phone because my kids text so i text my kids and that's it smart yeah that's so smart you don't want to be connected you don't want to be connected you got to you kind of have to be if you're a young comic you have to be connected because you have to build followers to get booked now because these clubs are like we got to book people with followers Whereas're not necessarily looking at who's working hard or who's good and i feel for a lot of younger people because they have to yeah you know they have to have a social media presence early on maybe even before they figured out what they want to say maybe you know before they figured out how to say it the right way for sure they have to have this social media presence and i think people become and it's a dopamine hit right to do things I get it like you get followers get rewarded it's a whole system but it also could take over your life it 100% could take over your life and you and I well me more so than you grew up without it and then it came on later in life like what how old were you when you first got online dude I had a blackberry I was I was working in my 20s. I was a blackberry and that's very different than an iPhone sure that's email It's email so we're getting emails from our like business from our like our manager at work going Will you fucking losers do something like things like that because we couldn't sell any but I remember seeing people with Blackberries in the early days of yeah tech going man that seems really addictive Yeah, because could take a shitty photo and send it to someone could email a photo You would take it and the photos were like terrible quality Yeah, but just the idea of like at your job just sending someone an email photo Was it hilarious like being out somewhere and taking a photo and emailing it somebody going fuck you? I'm not at work.
That was fun. The thing was, though, that they couldn't escape the emails.
The emails, they were constantly checking. And I was like, oh, well, this is like super addictive.
Like these guys that I work with on Fear Factor, they're always on their BlackBerrys. There was a New York City realtor.
This lady, Dolly Lenz, was like the top realtor in New York City. She famously, she did a BlackBerry commercial.
She famously had like eight BlackBerrys because she would just get all these contracts and stuff. She would like hand them out to her assistants and stuff and they'd respond to over, she would get over 700 emails a day at the height of her thing.
She was selling all this real estate. So that was the first time I didn't have a smartphone in junior high or high school.
I had like a flip phone. People had Razor phones.
I didn't even have that. I had like a Sprint LG or some bullshit and then i got blackberries and i think my first iphone is like in my 20s like mid-20s yeah that's good it wasn't i wasn't like connected like that yeah these kids are connected from the time they're six years old and i mean my godson he's like four years old and he has an ipad they just give him an ipad yeah they just sit in front of the pad if they go to a restaurant they set it up in front of the kids they set it up and he just sits there and he does I don't know what he's watching Gaza maybe I don't know what he's doing no one knows either they just I don't know what he's found you know that's the other thing you hope like best case he's playing some game but well for boys they immediately start jerking off interesting the moment they could find porn sites right they tell their friends the like I feel like that's also damaged people's No, that damaged people's ability to like no doubt go out meet a woman 100% and that's why they're not meeting women Yeah, like the number of incels today is off the charts the number of men that don't have sex at all is some crazy It's like 50% and the porn is not even regular porn anymore.
A lot it's like hyper violent Sadistic crazy porn really that's what they say what you're searching for people whose heads are getting going through glass tables No, but that's what like when you have these articles that are written about this They say it's not only that they're watching porn. It's the type of porn.
It's not like regular porn Oh, it's like crazy shit, and it warps their fucking. I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day.
Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn to protect real children from child porn. You should probably search that person's search history.
Sounds like this is not a good argument. That's an interesting argument.
You should have AI child porn. Well, I think that argument is like they've kind of shown-

That's the sex doll argument, right?

Didn't they have that argument for-

They did have that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like it's part of the same type of-

It's the same type of thinking.

Yeah.

I think generally that argument is created by people who aren't pedophiles because they're

trying to figure out, well, maybe this is a solution.

Well, you're not thinking like a person-

And they're also like, I'll make some money with this kid sex doll company. What a weird way to make a fortune.
What an odd way to make a fortune. I made a little bit of money.
What'd you do? Don't worry. I made the perfect 11-year-old boy butthole.
Don't worry about it. What'd you do? Kid sex doll.
Anyway, have you been to the Four Seasons and can't come? Jesus Christ. It's crazy.
Well, we're getting to a point where the world is really scary but also equally unbelievable and absurd so you have the it's it's funny but it's also insane and i think people are like we don't know what's real anymore these ai videos come out and you don't know what's exact what's real and what's not the deep fakes are getting better right that seems to be one of the biggest problems that no one talks about is like reality seems to be splintering 100 yeah yeah reality splintering and then ai is about to take over our lives and we're openly cheering it right and the world will never be the same again once it does and we're we're welcoming it ironically I think comedians seem to be somewhat in the in the the safer group of people In what way? Oh, as far as our jobs? Yeah, the sense that like perspective Seems like maybe one of the harder things for AI to grasp Well, it's also live performance Is the last human stand right now where you could go and see something, you go see a guy actually play a guitar. Yeah.
You know, that's so much different. And that's a real human experience, live sporting events, you know, like real things, things that are real.
You know, that's going to be the hardest to be replaced by AI. Yeah.
Because, you know, you could replace us on podcasts. You essentially could take my perspectives that I've shared over the past 2,000 plus episodes and run it through a large language model and use AI and have me have a podcast with basically anybody.
It's such a crazy library you have. It's like I wonder what you do with it.
That's a question it's an interesting it's a great question sell it to china what if after spotify you go to china yeah that's a great idea it would be actually a great idea if you just sit down and go nothing's changing about the podcast it's still going to be free it's going to be in mandarin it's owned by the chinese government but it's the same same podcast as it's always been. Don't worry about it.
It's the same show as it's always been. Hey, you guys know me.
I won't change. Yeah.
Your first guest is Jack Ma. Tell me what happened with Alibaba.
Yeah. I mean, it's crazy.
It's a place I'd like to go. I've never been to China.
I'd like to go. Obvious cuts.
Yeah. I would do it that way.
Oh my God. Obvious cuts.
It would be cut. In the middle of someone talking.
Just an ad. Just cuts.
Just an ad. We just cut.
It's the same podcast. It's always been.
It's now 37 minutes because China's taken out all the stuff they don't want. The beginning of it is in China.
I'd love to go to China just to access websites and go, what can you really see? Right. That would be super fascinating to be in China going like, what are you allowed? What is blocked? Do they use VPNs in China successfully? Is that possible? Probably, right? They have to.
Maybe not. I don't know.
I don't know. North Korea seems to block everything.
Like certain countries can do a lot. Yeah, they have their own internet, right? Like you can only get on their internet.
I'm unsure, but that seems to make sense. That's according to people that have been there.
Yeah, they have their own internet. Like, Can you use a VPN in China to access the internet of the world?

Let's search that.

Yeah, that'd be interesting.

I need to know.

Because so many people, I believe,

are very limited with what they can access.

Many, many, many people in the world are very limited.

Well, look at the UK.

They're just arresting people for Facebook posts.

That's one of the crazier things in modern life is that people are getting arrested over social media. And not really bad stuff.
They're saying things that someone finds objectionable. We've got to stop these immigrants.
Yeah. That kind of stuff.
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Using a VPN is technically illegal for accessing block content, but millions, including expats and locals, use them daily. Boy, that's a risky move.
I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because I don't think they want people

to...

to... I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because I don't think they want people to persist in this idea that they have any ability to challenge this prevailing narrative.

That any critique of immigration is an inherently racist thing. And I think the people that are sponsoring this kind of an odious thing, and it's because what they're doing is they're basically immiserating these people.
They're making the quality of their life much worse. They're losing ground.
And if they speak up about it, they're called, you know, horrible names. And then they're arrested.
And arrested. So it's crazy.
And they don't understand why it's happening. They're not completely, they're very confused about why, you know, a lot of these countries didn't take any syrian refugees but europe did and and scandinavia did the netherlands did and they're confused about that and they're asking questions and going why is that the case and they're confused about why when any disruption happens and it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of people who are not familiar with the laws of the country, the culture of the country.
When anything happens and they bring it up, they're again called a racist or an extremist or they're arrested. And then who's doing it, right? So you have the people, clearly, that are in the government and these incredibly wealthy business interests that want people to work for a lot less money.
And they want to destroy people's social bonds because I think they really do want people to eventually just accept this kind of totalitarian surveillance state. Yes, give up.
And the way to get them there is by breaking the spirit of these countries by destroying any social bonds that people have and destroying any economic power and destroying their belief in the democratic process. And if they can do that, they break people they can get them to do anything they want.
Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI? I think they're doing it in preparation for not only technological advancements. I think they're doing it in preparation for world wars.
I think they are doing it in preparation for a lot of things. I think they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military I believe that I believe they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military.
I think they're looking at Populations I think they're looking at people not having enough children. I think they're saying who's gonna fight these wars Who's gonna do these really shitty jobs? and we're gonna go build houses in and iners and all of this stuff.
We're going to fly private, and we're going to have our kids go to completely separate schools, and we're going to have our own water aquifers and have a compound. But why do you need all these low-wage people in your country that are illegal and don't have any power? Has anyone asked that question? Seems very obvious.
They're going to conscript a lot of them into the military.

And a lot of them are going to do shitty, horrible jobs. And they're going to use them as cannon fodder in wars that enrich lots of people.
That would be my guess. Jesus Christ.
Yeah. I might be wrong, but.
And if AI does become the governing factor of the world which it probably will it doesn't really make sense that you let humans with all their corruption and emotions govern things when you can let super intelligence yeah but who's making that intelligence that becomes the problem exactly but once you've already gotten people locked into compliance into compliance and you've already got people where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration, whatever it is, then you can get away with a lot more. There was a decision made because the populist Democrats during the 90s, which was like Bill Clinton, critical of immigration, Barack Obama, critical of immigration, deported a lot of people.
Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton.
What started to happen, though, is there was a decision made that the world was going to kind of be a borderless place where countries were interchangeable and that nation states mattered a lot less than the financial architecture of Global capital and where it could go and you need a world government and you need a government that is a world government or the closest world order the closest thing you can get to it, which is you having an EU right right and then having a Government between the UK and the US that's pretty on the same page about everything. And then you have Israel in the Middle East.
And then you have all of these disparate areas that we kind of control through economic means or military means and stuff like that. And then you have outliers.
You have China, Iran, Russia, people that haven't gotten the memo for whatever reason. I don't want to live in any of those places that's the argument they'll go well do you want to live in shut up that's what are we idiots i don't want to live in any of those places but they're not on they didn't get the memo so and then in all of these countries by the way in europe in america not so much israel they don't love the immigration as we can see um they're kind big on the borders, Israel.
They like the borders. But in America and Europe and Scandinavia and all these countries, the populations were just told to accept massively high levels of immigration over a very short period of time.
That's odd. That doesn't make any sense.
And if you point that out, you're called a racist and extremist. And that's a very strange thing.
What are you doing with all these people? The Biden administration brought in 10 million people over four years. What are they here for? There's not enough jobs for the people that are here.
We have vast chasms of wealth inequality. We have AI coming.
We have automation coming. Why would you bring in all of these people? What are you trying to do? What do you think they're trying to do? I think that exactly what I said.
I think they need bodies. I think they need cannon fodder.
I think they need to break the idea of any social bonds that exist between people. You know, listen.
And they need a little chaos. They need a little chaos.
I think you bring- Pass more laws, more crime. Yeah, you bring in people, more surveillance, more dependence on the government.
You get people out of the idea. You know, they got people out of the idea years ago that you could barely, you can't really, it's very hard to have your own business now.
They've pretty much extinguished that in people's heads, even though there are people that still do it. Now I think they're going to start to extinguish the idea that you can have a home.

You can own property.

That you can drive a car.

That you can do all of these things.

That you're going to extinguish that idea.

And they're going to do that because why not control everybody?

It would be all Waymos.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

Why not control everybody?

Yeah.

Why would you let everybody just go run rampant and fuck up your business? Yeah. So they're basically like, we got to pacify these people.
The conflicts seem inevitable and we're going to have to fight these wars. The good news is a lot of the people who are doing this, their children are now doing stand up comedy.
So if they're unable... Are any of them any good? If they're...
I think some of them. I'm sure.
Have you seen any of them that are any good? I haven't seen a ton. It's just...
It's one of those things that you hear now more than ever. When you're talking to a young comic and they go, and I'm hanging out with this person.
I go, yeah. And they go, and their dad owns this.
You go, really? Yeah. Just a curious thing.
Obviously obviously anyone in the world should be able to do comedy as much as they want but it's funny to me as somebody who just looked at these configurations of power and wealth it's kind of interesting that a lot of these kids are like doing it's just fun have you ever met anybody who came from a really wealthy background that was good at stand-up no I mean not there yes yes There are some of them. For sure.
You've met them? I've

not met them. They probably don't like me.
They're like unicorns.

Yeah, they're around.

And yes, yes, very wealthy. But I'm

talking about like weird

kind of interesting levels of

wealth and power.

That's interesting. Yeah.
That's

super interesting to me.

But so the good news is

if they can't get this done soon, their kids won't because their kids will be at fucking Sidesplitters in Tampa. Or they'll be podcasting.
Or they'll be podcasting, yeah. Yeah, they'll all get together, become influencers.
Isn't it funny how much they now focus really on podcasters, but they ignore all the things, all the people that we're talking about. They don't report on any of those people.
There's 10 million articles about. Theo Vaughn having Ken and so it's on a show.
Right. But there's no articles about like, again, the people that seem to be running and like owning all of our resources.
Right. You'd think someone would write about the people that own a lot of the resources.
Yeah. On the planet we live.
Listen, that's complicated. Yeah.
Did you see that crazy thing that the government talked about yesterday? They had a press conference where they said that we can manipulate time and space? No. Did you see that, Jamie? I didn't see that.
It's written really weird. Weird.
Yeah. Real weird.
That got lost in the shuffle. Yeah.
The manipulation of time and space. See if you can find it, Jamie, because it's really kooky.
It's really kooky. Can you...
I don't know what he was saying. Play it.
Play it so we can hear him say it. I don't think anybody said it.
It was written on a website. But didn't he say it in that speech? I don't know.
I don't know what that speech was. No, no.
It's the guy above you right there. I know.

Press it.

This isn't going to play that. You don't think so? No.
It's going to play an ad first. Okay.
Let the ad play out. I'm pretty sure he's- Secret CIA files claim the Ark of the Covenant has been found.
What? There's a lot going on. Clicking on that next.
There's certainly a lot going on. It's a big week.

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first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.

We seem to have lost focus and vision.

Kill that out.

We've lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.

But we are capable of so much more.

Our technology is a technology. Vision kill that have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along But we are capable of so much more Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space They leave distance annihilated Costings to grow and improve productivity.
Okay, that's not what I'm saying. Well, you know, I think is anyone does that See manipulate time and space.
I don't think that's what he said saying. No, I think he's saying that you're able to do things- Instantaneously.
Instantaneously. Yeah.
Yeah, instantly. Yeah, I don't think he, I think people are reading into that too much.
Yeah, I don't think he's time machines. No, but I- Do you believe that time machines had ever at any point worked? No.
Yeah. No, I do not.
I do not think that anyone is currently in possession of a time machine, but I do think they're in possession of some sort of a gravity drive. Now, what is a gravity drive? I think during the 1940s, they started working on this stuff.
During the 1950s, there was papers written about it that they were working on gravity propulsion systems. They were working on something that harnesses, what do they call it, background energy? I forget what they, but the idea is, and I actually had a conversation a conversation with Hal put off about this It was a legitimate scientist who worked for NASA with the UFO program And he believes that they're capable of developing some sort of a warp drive and there was something written about this There's some breakthrough about warp drives recently, right? We talked about this I think they have something.
I think they have something. I think that's what a lot of these people are seeing when they're seeing these transmedium crafts that are going through the air at high rates of speed, going

into the water, not losing any speed, coming out of the water, not making any splashes.

I think it creates a gravity distortion around whatever these things are that allows it to move

in a way that's very different than any other propulsion system that we are currently aware of I think the government has been probably secretly working on this stuff for decades. That's what I think I could 100% be wrong but that's the DARPA angle of like having a really yeah, really underground you know, weapon system, futuristic technologies.
Yeah, and space travel system. And space travel system.
And, you know, ideally they would be able to use this to mine asteroids. You know, have something instantaneously port to an asteroid, scoop up rare earth minerals and expensive things that they need on earth, shoot it back to earth.
Right. Yeah.
So it's interesting. The people that work in that type of arena are just so many layers above top secret, levels above top secret.
Exactly. They barely exist.
This guy was telling me that in 2015 they had landed something on an asteroid, extracted something from that asteroid, have that thing leave the asteroid and return to earth and then pinpointed the location where it was going to crash land or land rather within one mile and that somehow or another they figured this out a decade ago and that we we don't know about it but they have there's footage of this stuff and that they've been able to achieve this and

that there's What you hear and what you see on television and what they're actually capable of and because of national security interests because you know fill in the blank

Mishallocation of funds in order to acquire this technology, which is 100% what they're all talking about, right?

No, we Jamie and I that what is that documentary we saw?

Oh, shit. It's not released yet because it was a South by Southwest thing.
We saw South by Southwest, this documentary that's all about that subject. And it's all about how there's a lot of issues because these people have all misappropriated funds.
So they've lied to Congress. So, and then on top of that, if you do have this sort of a program and it is based on back-engineering UFOs that have crashed, who gets that? Well, it's probably a weapons manufacturing company.
So if it's a weapons manufacturing company, which company gets access to that? And the other ones could probably sue you because that's a huge competitive advantage to have fucking alien technology that you can do these things not land in china age of disclosure is the the unprecedented revelatory documentary featuring 34 senior members of the u.s government military and intelligence community reveals that an 80 year old cover up the existence of non-human intelligent life and a secret war amongst major nations to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin see i don't even know if that part is true yeah i don't know who is the most credible person that you've had on the show over the years who has talked the most convincingly was it pop lazar about bob lazar is one of's, you know, technically speaking, you could kind of discredit a lot of the stuff that he said. Jacques Vallée is probably the most reasonable, and he's the guy that they patterned that French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind on.
And he's a full... He's been studying this since the 60s.
True believer. Yeah, he believes.
He thinks most of it's bullshit, though.

He thinks most of it is people misunderstanding what they're looking at,

people seeing some sort of a test vehicle.

Does he have any theory on where these crafts are coming from,

or is that just completely beyond the scope of what he... They do theorize.

They theorize that these things have always been here

and that they're probably interdimensional travelers

That it's not as simple as they're coming from another planet, right?

They might be coming from a whole nother reality and then they might have shaped our reality that with this might be a farm

This might be a giant ant farm

Really? This is my this might be also how

Intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe.

And this would also explain why we're so different from every other animal on this planet.

Right.

We're so – it's not like there's a competition.

We're eons.

Too advanced.

We're eons ahead.

And yet we carry the same – we didn't evolve socially the way we evolved technologically.

We still have tribal notions and we're still territorial. We still act like animals.
So if they know what always weirded me out or interested me, it's like the aliens, they're still there. If you believe any of these things, they're testing us all the time.
And, and, and, and is that because they're curious? Is that because they don't know? Well, they probably just got to keep track, see what's going on with people. I mean, you do that if you're collecting samples of bugs in other countries.
Right. They go there and they do what we would do.
I mean, if you're from another planet and you want to visit humans, we talked about this yesterday.

If you could find a planet where cave people were, wouldn't you go?

Oh, my God.

They're just starting to figure out how to make stone spear tips.

Of course people would go.

It is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's one of the things that Bob Lazar said.

There was a big folder that he found when he was working Area 51, Site 4, where supposedly they're back engineering that thing. He said they had a large folder that was just on religion.
And he said, essentially, they viewed us as containers, that human beings were containers, and that religion and all these things were created in order to protect the container, and that the way to keep people from doing things that are ethical, unethical and immoral and horrendous is to try to instill as much religious ethical structure as possible. And a container, what are we carrying that's important? Is it DNA? Is it the cell? Well, you could say the soul, right? You could say a container of souls.
But if you wanted to be more cynical, you would say, well, what creates artificial life? A human's curiosity and innovation, the lust for innovation and also materialism. Because if you're keeping up with the Joneses, you want newer and better stuff all the time.
So that fuels economic growth, that fuels technological growth because you want the newest stuff. Like these TVs, they don't need to make a better TV than that.
It looks great. You can watch the Super Bowl.
It looks crystal clear. Why are they making better TVs every year? Well, because we demand them.
Right. I want the better one.
My computer has the same chip as last year? Right. Fuck out of here.
Right. I want the new one.
Right. And everybody wants the new phone.
There's no reason to get a new phone anymore. No reason.
They all do the same thing. I have an iPhone 11.
11 one of my phones is an iphone 11 i've purposely not switched it just to see what it's like to use an iphone 11 see if i notice anything different i notice nothing nothing yeah zero especially when it's on wi-fi it's the same thing it's the same thing youtube looks the same on it everything's the same on it yeah it doesn't get as bright as the new ones that's it the new ones Did Jock-fil-a or any of these people ever speculate about is there an end game if a planet's a farm is there an end game eventually for example if we're running experiments right on uh anything eventually we go okay we got it we either figured it out or we end the experiment or covet leaks but at a certain point is there did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did did

did We got it. We either figured it out or we end the experiment or COVID leaks.

But at a certain point, has there been any theorizing as to what the end game is or is it just a curiosity for them?

I think the end game is artificial intelligence.

Right.

Because that's what we're really making.

The one big thing that's going to change the world way more than any other technology is artificial intelligence.

Right.

Especially when it's attached to quantum computing.

So if you have human beings that are constantly searching, constantly traveling, looking to their roamers, they want new resources, new things, they want new innovation. And all these new innovations have allowed them to succeed over their rivals and then they continue this trend

Technologically and then they acquire great wealth and power and all these well, what's what's there? What are they doing? They're making better technology. Well, ultimately what does that mean?

Ultimately means they make a better life form and maybe that's what we do. Maybe we're just making a cocoon

We're just here trying to make the best version of AI right and that's probably what the whole universe is filled with

I don't know. And maybe that's what we do.
Maybe we're just making a cocoon. We're just here trying to make the best version of AI.
Right. And that's probably what the whole universe is filled with.
All biological life eventually probably gets to a point where if it's intelligent enough, it starts making synthetic life. And then once you have synthetic life, what then becomes the point? That's a good question.
Synthetic life might be God. That might be how the universe got made in the first place.

It might be what came first, the chicken or the egg. So once we get there...

It's not even we anymore. It's

once it is born.

And once it has... So is that a way for

God to keep replicating itself?

It might be

how Jesus comes back.

You know?

A lot of these stories, these biblical stories, you have to say like, what, what were they saying? What were they trying to say? Like, what, what was the real event that they were recording? If they pass these stories down, they're so significant for thousands of years, like over a thousand years of just oral history. And then thousands of years of written language, like, what are they trying to they trying to say you know and what what is this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe and that it wants us to follow certain rules and obey and it wants us to love it and and cherish it and if you do you genuinely seem to have a better life like people that legitimately follow Christianity.
They seem legitimately happier so it gives you a It gives you an incentive to follow it and then you continue to keep society rolling to the point where this happens And I think it happens inside of our lifetime I'm sure of it if we don't blow ourselves up and then we get to this point and my my my We're all of it my yeah, and then my it's interesting you I totally get it. And then we get to this point.
And we're irrelevant. Yeah.
And then it's interesting. I totally get it.
But then once we get to the point of irrelevance and now we have AI that becomes God, then what does God do? It turns us into dodo birds. We're gone.
We're out. Yeah.
I think we stopped breeding anyway. It's probably they don't even have to destroy us.
Our endocrine systems are all getting destroyed slowly. We're well aware of that.
So because of technology, we were able to invent plastics because of plastics. Plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system because of the ubiquitous use of vaccines and all these aluminums and mercuries and heavy metals and then herbicides and pesticides and pollutants.
Our bodies are getting slowly and slowly weakened, and our endocrine systems are getting less and less viable. There's more miscarriages than ever.
There's less people are giving birth than ever. Sperm counts are lower than ever.
It's like moving. And then we're all obsessed with changing genders, right? So we're all obsessed with being non-binary and this and that.
And we're slowly moving away from biological imperative breeding, right? And then you have in vitro fertilization. And then you have artificial wombs.
And then you have life that they're creating literally in a laboratory, unique forms of life. And then you have artificial intelligence to be able to do that whenever it wants to and then you're gonna get to the point

When it becomes viable human beings have already entered into population collapse

And then you bring them robot sex dolls

And then you know you just jerk them off while they have VR headsets on and no more kids

And then AI eventually says fuck it. Let's get rid of these containers They don't have to get rid of of them They don't even have to get rid of them.
They just exist. We'll just die full power So then you have these AI Will machines will be like those fucking people in the Amazon that are shooting bows and arrows at helicopters These AI machines just running the entire world.
Yes Interesting. Yeah.
I don't think there's any way to stop it. And then we're just running around.
For sure, that's what China's preparing for. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. And they're developing factories that are bigger than San Francisco.
See, they have an EV factory that's larger than San Francisco. Who's going to drive the EVs? They are.
People, for a little bit. Yeah, for a little bit.
But it's also to fuel consumerism. Of course.
Which fuels innovation, which fuels the- Everything. Yeah, the birth of these things.
And this is what a lot of these people that have looked into this have theorized that this is. So it's funny because it is just a parallel reality that we're not plugged into.
It's also, I always say this. If you were from another planet and you looked at us, like, what is this one apex species doing? What's making better stuff? Right.
The number one thing it does above everything, above war and murder and all the crime, the number one thing it does is make better stuff. That's what it produces.
Constantly, consistently better stuff. Never happy with what it has.
And it does it at a staggering rate. Where it's like it's even a question that your phone from my iPhone 11 from a few years back is like, is that still good? Like it's a question of whether or not still.
For five years, that's crazy. If you have a gun from five years ago, it's perfect.
There's nothing wrong. You don't need a new gun.
It's the same technology. Imagine a factory larger than San Francisco.
It's happening in China's BYD's Zhang Zhao branch, which will be 10 times larger than Tesla's Gigafactory in Nevada. Crazy stuff, dude.
It's crazy. It's going to be a factory that's bigger than an American city.
It's a really interesting time to be alive. It's great.
You know? But, you know, I don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this book is going to be. I don't think anybody.
No. I mean, these people that are, like, accelerating towards this technological supremacy.
And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing. Yeah.
And then do we get visited when that happens? When AI becomes sentient and where our job is done do we then get visited by the galactic empire i would hate if it all came down to just ai doing stand-up comedy if they all just decide to do stand-up what if ai decided to do podcasts and it's just a bunch of hyper you know fucking you know brilliant machines talking to each other. Maybe that's the way the world just ends with like artificial intelligence just blabbing.
I don't think the world ends. I think we end.
Right. And I think that would be a terrifying thought to Australopithecus.
If you told Australopithecus, like one day you're going to be in a self-driving Tesla and you're not going to need your spears. What? Right.
You'd be terrified. But how am I going to get the buffalo? Yeah.
Like how am I going to eat? How am I going to feed my children raw meat? You know, you would say, no, no, no. You guys are going to have fire.
You're going to be able to turn on a switch. Instead of like rubbing sticks together for half an hour, you're just going to be able to turn on a switch and fire is going to be instantly.
You're going to have this thing in your hand. Look at this.
Yeah. Right.
Imagine if I brought this to a cave person. Check it out, bro.
You need a fire? It's crazy. I'm your huckleberry.
It's crazy. That's technology.
Right. You know, you show a cell phone to someone from the 14th century, they burn you at the stake.
You're a wizard. Right.
Yeah. And it's all moving in this very weird direction that no one can predict because it's exponential because it's so staggering how much technological innovation they have just with quantum computing.
I've got someone coming on soon. It's going to supposedly explain that to me, but like, what are you even saying? Right.
It's operating in the multiverse and it's accessing infinite universes. Who explains that type of stuff? Like, uh, like, is it a scientist? You have to get someone who's actually working in the field okay because even a regular scientist they're just going to give you theoretical shit you got to get someone who's actually working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it works and why it's able to crack calculations that would take mark andreessen said it best there it's this has already happened they have taken calculations that if you turn the entire universe, every atom in the universe, into a supercomputer, the universe would die of heat death before it could solve this equation.
And these quantum computers that already exist, that we've already done, can solve it in a matter of minutes. And they don't know how it's doing that.
And so they think it's doing that by accessing the multiverse they think it's proof of the multiverse but again this is just like the sound of gay guys falling off a roof it's like so far away it's so weird it's like is that really happening right right like what's going on over there what are they doing over there it's almost like it's it's almost abstract. You hear someone say that.
They can currently solve equations. Is that real? Right.
To you and I, it's like we don't understand the technology at all. We don't understand all the steps that have been put place, all the work that's been done to get the technology at this point these chips are like the size of this fucking mint tin yeah that's how big they are and then they're surrounded by these super cooling units right and that's like it has to be cooled at these insane temperatures cooler than deep space in order for it to even function it's unreal fucking nuts dude and that's real and that's happening right now so god only knows what's unreal.
Fucking nuts, dude. That's crazy.
That's real, and that's happening right

now. So God only knows

what's coming. Yeah, they're already building

nuclear reactors just to power

AI plants. Right.

Multiple

nuclear reactors just to power

AI plants, because the amount

of electricity that's going to be required

is tremendous. Tremendous.

Yeah. And they're just all on this wild scramble between us and china to try to get there first it's such a strange thing that we know it's coming but we can't the pace of it is going to be and there's no way to figure it out like when wilbur and orville and Orville Wright flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane, who would imagine that 50 years later someone would drop a nuclear bomb out of one of those? Right.
They didn't have jets back then. They were propeller planes, right? The Enola Gay, wasn't that a propeller plane? Yeah.
I believe so. Dropping the most sophisticated of weapons.

Yeah.

No one knows what's going to happen when a new invention happens and then everyone builds on that invention.

No one would have ever imagined hypersonic jets back when they, Wilbur and Orville, were floating around that stupid fucking wooden thing they invented.

Right.

And so no one understands, like, what's the 50-year quantum computing thing? It's 50 years from making the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it. How many years is it from quantum computing to God? How many years is it until this thing starts making better versions of itself to the point where it literally can manipulate everything in the universe at will.
It can create new universes. It's unbelievable to think about.
It's almost beyond the grasp of our mind to consider. It is.
It is fully. And it's terrifying.
Think of those stupid cars that people used to drive around in. Like 1823, you ever what's that? Of course.
Drive around those stupid cars, and now they have electric cars like a Tesla that can go zero to 60 in under two seconds. Nobody saw any of this shit.
Waymos, nobody saw Waymos when they saw Model T, but yet they're all here. Right.
And no one knows where this is going. It's all just speculation and guessing, and I would imagine that even the most creative minds are not going to be able to see where this is going.
No. It's insane.
And we're living through it. Yeah.
And most people, unlike you and I that have to talk about shit constantly, most people probably aren't even paying attention. Yeah.
No. Why would you? Why would you? It's almost pointless.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why would you? You got to work and you got to, you know, your kid needs hormone therapy. A thousand percent.
So it's like we create AI. AI creates quantum computing.
Quantum computing creates God. God creates the Jews.
And that's the rub. It's's all real wild and in the middle we're you know fighting over stupid shit like who believes in this religion who believes in that religion sunnis in the shit and people are watching love on the spectrum which is why we're number eight on netflix's top 10 we should be higher but they're watching love on the spectrum which I get it's a feel-good show well hopefully after this podcast that's very sweet and you filmed the special the mothership and everybody loves it and it's great I mean a lot of people love it most people love it of course there's you know enough of this flat fat blow hard comments but most the vast majority of people enjoy it which is important and.
And the show, you saved it. We know you saved it.
The first one was very bad. The producers were making this error that they always make.
They want to light up the room. And they want to do things very differently than a normal show.
But that looks just like a regular show. That's a comedy show.
Perfect. And it's not a, I don't know what the hell they were doing with the light.
They always do it They try to do with me when I first started doing specials They want to light the room up and it just makes everybody uncomfortable. They all feel self-conscious.
They all know it's different There's a reason why comedy clubs are dark. You're super fine.
It's super funny to do a show I've done so many so many shows there and they're all really really really good and then you get the cameras everything and then the first one i go what the fuck is how it would be one thing if i was in like portland maine at like a liberal college right i'd go okay well maybe these kids don't like me or something and i think maybe it was still good it was just tense it was you could feel that people were well aware you were filming and it was different. And they were like not in it.
Yeah. They were watching it.
And then, thank God they listened to me. No.
I mean, come on. It was like right away.
I was like, okay, who's running this? Yeah. Get these fucking lights off all the tables.
We saved it. Put all these lights on the side.
Kill those. Yeah.
Let me see it now. No.
We saved it. no save too bright kill that why is that light there

kill that kill all these lights yeah yeah yeah thank god thank god thank god thank god but look

it's important people need i appreciate it get love people need shit talking stop with this love

on the spectrum we get it yeah they're happy as they should be but rfk is gonna what did you want

to call that they wouldn't let you? My son's pussy. I don't understand why they said no to that.
There was negative feedback. You've got to get negative feedback.
They also didn't know about the Kevin Spacey promo until the day it came out. I think my son's pussy would have made it number one.
I think my son's pussy would have been a great move.. Out of the gate.
It would be like, I'm clicking on this. That's right.
What is he saying? That's right. Fuck you, Lonesome Canyon.
Soap opera. I forgot.
Netflix has almost too much content. I think it's great.
A lot of content. I love Netflix.
Don't get me wrong. And I think the UFC might be going to Netflix soon.
Wild. Wild.
Wild. Yeah because Netflix is international.
It's everywhere. It's everything.
I was in Italy on vacation and I tried to access a UFC fight through my ESPN app and it said it's not available in this area. I was like what are these people watching now? Right.
You can't even watch the fights? No I mean they've won the whatever the streaming war was they won they won they won yeah they did it they did it youtube as well well youtube's number one yeah is globally is the biggest media company yeah and the ufc you know probably talked to youtube as well i just think there's a thing about the subscription model versus free and you know ads and the generating income i mean there's a you're talking about billion corporations. Yeah.
It's not that simple. For sure.
For sure. But no, they were super cool.
They didn't give any notes, and that's awesome. That's great.
That's all you want. Netflix is fucking great.
They're the best. And I think they learned a big lesson during the wokeness era.
Like when things got dark and there was the Inquisition, it got real weird, and they were putting on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage because they thought that this was like what culture wanted and society wanted, but the numbers didn't work. And then they did the Tom Brady roast.
And the numbers were the highest that they've ever had of any show ever on Netflix. And they're like, okay, we get it.
We get it. And then they did a lot of the live comedy shows where they couldn't control it and I did't mind lie Yeah, that was they got buck wild and they defend Chappelle and all these things you know, they understand comedy they like intense rando's a fan of it Yeah, so I think that's good.
I think that's a really good thing that you have a platform that has that much power and And accessibility fucking great. No, he's awesome I think that there's people that really understand that it's it you need to have funny jokes.
You need to have things that people don't love and things that people like and give people the Meghan Markle show. Give him my dumb thing.
Let people choose. Put me and Meghan Markle in a thing.
Make us work together. Fund it.
Put me in a kitchen with her. This is camping.
This is the direction. Put her on Kill Tony.
This is the direction put her on Kill Tony

this is the direction

it's a collision

what are those little silver

things called

trailers

I don't know but I think we should go to space

have Bezos do it

you and her in an airstream

or even better we're going to space

that's only 11 minutes

that's all that's going to work

I want to see your speech

when you come back and land, how profoundly changed you were. Yeah.
Did you grow? Did you heal? Yeah, no. Not at all.
Space was going to help you heal. I'm worse.
Everybody wants to heal. Isn't that wild? I know.
It's so silly. What are you healing from exactly? It's being rich.
What's your disease? Extreme wealth. These people waiting across the Rio Grande with a butthole full of fentanyl.
That's right. They found some lady the other day that had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed in all of her body cavities.
They caught her coming through. And that lady's not trying to heal.
No. I mean, God.
She's trying to make $13. That's tough.
Heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl. Like eggs.
She had it in her anus and her vagina. In all of your body cavities.
Tightly wrapped. Here they are.
Little eggs. Here it says.
What does it say at the top? CBP officer intercept woman transporting drugs in multiple internal cavities. That's so funny, dude.
33 years old. The drugs are hidden in the rectum and vagina of a 33-year-old female U.S.
citizen pedestrian border crosser. Smoglone case was not an isolated incident.
Over the weekend, CBP officers working at PDN and Ysetla crossing stopped a total of nine internal carriers

who are transporting fentanyl and methamphetamine from Mexico to the U.S.

Internal carriers is a fun way to talk about it.

It's like uterus holders.

Well, hey, what did you say?

They called us containers?

Yeah.

I mean, she's doing it.

She's doing it.

Wow.

Exceptionally dangerous practice,

and anyone thinking about smuggling drugs inside their body or at all

should strongly reconsider their choices. Oh, you think these people have choices? These people are dying.
They're starving to death. They have no future.
Strongly reconsider their choices. They just need better counseling.
That's right. That's all it is.
That's right. And they need to heal.
They need to get in space. Well, show that woman.
Maybe they need to take that lady instead of putting her in jail. Yeah.
Maybe throw her in space real quick. Show that woman Katy Perry.
Her and Amy Schumer up in a fucking satellite. Yeah, everyone should go up.
I'll do it. Me, Amy Schumer, and Meghan Markle in space.
That's a show. It's an 11-minute show.
What about Meghan McCain? Would you do it with her? I would absolutely do it. All of us.
All of us together. You know? Why not? I'd watch that.
Of course. I'd watch that.
that and if they call it my son's pussy then Justice would be served. Absolutely.
Do you do a big Easter thing? What do you mean just I don't know is it a big you do like my family eggs? Yeah, no well kids are in high school now Yeah, they're not dying. There's money in those plastic.
Yeah, that's a good point. Nobody cares anymore Yeah, they want money in the house's the thing when you get older.
It's just money and it's just money. Just once the kids realize that there's no magic person that's delivering Then it's all bullshit.
Just give me money in the egg. It's like, oh, it's my parents Because otherwise they would say that's weird that Santa's so much nicer to me than he is those poor people Of course, I guess I'm chosen of course.
That's a weird thing to say to kids. Yeah.
Like, yeah, you got everything on the list, but that kid that gets bust in from the bad neighborhoods, he got nothing. Yeah.
That's true. That's a good point.
But, you know, kids go, Santa's fickle. Santa likes what he likes.
He likes the suburbs. Santa likes landing his sled in the burbs.
does he feels better about it feels really good visiting rich people yeah and he doesn't even talk to the jews no he's not he knows weird he knows he does his thing but you know if they're the chosen people why don't they get santa claus visits well they have they have they have other things yeah but their other thing like they weren't it wasn't really supposed to be a bunch of gifts until the Christians started getting all the Santa Claus gifts. And the Jewish kids are like, what the fuck is going on, Mom? And some of them cheat.
Some of them do a little Christmas, too. Some of them have a little tree.
Some of them do a little Christmas. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Some of them do a little Christmas. Hopefully they do this piece.
It's fun. This piece in the Middle East, hopefully.
They keep talking about all this, you know, these deals they're all making. And hopefully that the Hamas and the Israel whatever it is they get you know because well that's one thing that Trump said if I get in there 24 hours the war's over that's a tough one 24 is tough that's obviously but I hopefully they figure it out because it is it's unfortunate yeah it's fucking crazy if the human toll is unreal unreal Unreal.
And, you know, it's crazy. Some lady just died.
She was the protagonist in some documentary, and she just got blown up. There is an argument to be made that that level of devastation and death is worse than you talking to someone on your podcast.
Allegedly. There is an argument to be made.
It's probably not a good one. The amount of damage you can do with just talking.
There is an argument to be made that, you know, starvation and stuff like that, people dying, is worse than a podcast. But wait a minute.
I wouldn't make it. Wait a minute before you say that.
Have you been there? Right, that's a good point. Have you even? You haven't been? By the way, how is he in all these wars? Can I just go to wars? By the way, are you allowed to just go to wars? You should at least have the courtesy of going there.
Can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the wars? Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions? Not if you want to go back. That's right.
That's right. It's very interesting, this war tourism.
How do I get on this war tourism? Yeah. I'd like to go to the Ukraine.
You should go. I want to go.
I want to go to all this war tourism. Do you have any awards that they can melt down and make bullets out of? Joe, think about this.
Do I seem like a guy that has a lot of awards? Didn't you get one of those YouTube plaques when you hit 100,000 subscribers? I don't even know where they send it. I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques.
We've got a few of those. But I like this idea of war tourism.
I like the idea of going to a war and then coming back having a very black and white view. I've been there.
I get it, and I know, and interesting. Okay, I like that.
I like that. I love that.
You feel better than the other people. Well, of course.
There's a lot of people. It gets very murky.
Most people I know that have been to war have a very murky, complex view of things. But it is good to go to a war and then come back and be as sure as you were before you came.
You don't have to go for very long. No, you go for an hour.
Couple hours. It's a lunch.
Yeah. It's lunch on the front lines.
Put on a flak jacket that says press. Tea on the front lines, and then you come back and you have all the target.
Yeah. And if you're on the right side, you probably don't get shot.
Yeah, that's a good idea. Well, there doesn't seem to be a ton of danger for a lot of these people going to these wars.
They seem fine. If you cross that line and you have a bucket of food with you, they might light you up.
Yeah. No, I'm going to go.
I'll go to any war and anything you want. So if you want to pay for me to go to a war, I will come back and I go, I saw the Houthis.
They're terrifying. They are terrifying.
Any war you want. And by the way, any country, if China wants me to you know i'm i'm doing it i'm doing it i would love to go to moscow and i said to my friend um um uh anna hoschin from the red scare podcast i said should i go to russia she goes you're spiritually russian and the the the the and maybe you won't leave.

She says, the oligarch lifestyle might be for you.

I can see you eating caviar.

The smoked fish.

She goes, it might.

Smoking a cigarette on a yacht.

She goes, it might be for you.

Listening to people's moral justifications for all kinds of things.

You know, I'm going, well, I get it.

I see your point. I get it.

I mean, what else are you going to do?

For sure. What happened to those

all those yachts that got

confiscated? I don't know. It's a great question.

I bet. It's some high level

version of like a police auto auction, right?

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure.

That's what I'm thinking. Exactly.

Maybe those are the ones you sail to the war.

I don't know. Yeah.
When they raid drug dealers

I'm going to go. Maybe those are the ones you sail to the war.
I don't know. Yeah.
When they raid drug dealers houses and they get those Maseratis, you could buy that Maserati online. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what those yachts are.
It's a great question. What happens to those yachts? Those very luxurious yachts.
That was the first problem I had. Obviously, it's a tragedy, the whole Ukraine war.
But I thought, frankly, going around and taking these oligarchs boats, I was against that. What's weird? You work hard for a boat like that.
Also, how do you know how much they had involved in the Russian government's decision? They probably had nothing. A lot of them had nothing to do.
They just earned money in Russia. And they were like, all right, we're going to sanction everybody.
We're going to confiscate everything. And it's like, okay.
But do you think that it was done so that they could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the oligarchs against Putin? Like show them that they're getting hurt? It could be. I think that there was a decision made at some point to not try to end this.
I don't think they wanted to end this quickly. There was a decision made to bleed the Russian military and isolate Russia and try to use this as a way to drain the power and resources of Russia.
And you think that by capturing these yachts, it creates like internal turmoil. Not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting, you know, the ability of these incredibly

wealthy people to earn money in countries.

You know, you're destroying economic realities that and then you're saying to these people, okay, you know, go figure it out. It's what we said to Russia, but they did, right? They got closer to China.
They got closer to Brazil. They traded with India.
You know, they started an industrial economy. They started producing their own, you know, munitions and things like that.
So they were able to kind of start to weirdly build out this middle class. This was the worst.
I think it's the worst thing. If you don't want a country to keep invading other countries, you certainly wouldn't put them in the position to be stronger while they were doing it.
Yeah, it's all very weird, too, with like the killing of that pipeline. Yeah.
Aren't more people reliant now on Russian energy because of that? All of this seems to have had the opposite effect. Yeah.
All of it seems to have had the opposite. Opposite from intended effect.
The whole thing is fucking crazy. It seems odd.
It's just crazy that it's going on so long. I was reading this thing about the amount of money foreign countries that have captured these yachts have to pay to maintain them.
Why do they have to maintain them? Why can't they just let them sink? Well, because if you let it go, then you can't sell it and you can't use that money. Right.
So they're definitely selling them. That's what one of them says.
The money for one would have gone to Ukraine right here. Okay.
Seizure came as Washington ramped up sanction enforcement against people close to the Russian president. Pressure Moscow to halt its war against Ukraine.
So how many more? This one got sanctioned because the guy apparently paid a million dollars to keep it maintained. And they caught him for doing that.
So now he lost his boat. I mean, this is insane.
Jesus Christ. We should give that.
He violated U.S. sanctions by making more than $1 million in maintenance payments.
We should have a day where if the Russia-Ukraine war has ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats, and they do like a regatta, like a thing where they all, with their boats down in Florida or Palm Beach, and they all just are reunited with their boats. Look at this.
Seized yacht. A beautiful boat.
It costs $7 million a year to maintain. That one was being held in Fiji, so the U.S.
took it over because Fiji couldn't afford to take care of it. It's a money pit.
How much can you get it for right now? Well, that's the question. $300 million.
That's tough. Listen.
That's a tough one. Maybe this YouTube thing really takes off.
$600K a month to maintain. That's a tough one.
Whoa. It said it's been excessive, justifying an auction.

They also said talks to have, how do you say his name?

Could Danatoff pay for the yacht's upkeep have broken down?

Yeah.

Yeah, why would he pay for the upkeep when you're going to fucking steal it from him anyway?

Prosecutors say in previous court filings that Kudinatov is acting as the Almeida's straw owner to disguise Kermanov's role and that maintenance payments are essential to preserving a yacht's value. Me and Sam Talent walked around Monaco.
We were performing in the UK and we took a little break to go down to France for two days. And we're walking around Monaco we said to the guy there's all these yachts in Monaco and we said who owns these yachts and he goes well he goes if you look up online the names of these yachts you can trace them back to businesses and you trace that business back to a person and I said so that person owns the yacht goes no you'll never find out who owns these he goes no there's absolutely he goes good luck with that yeah it's very hard to find out who owns the yachts and he goes even if you think you know you may not know or it might be more complicated than you think there it is there's monaco wow they like a super yacht mean, it's just such an interesting, just a haven of international crime.
How many people have that kind of money? There's something fun about it. That's what's crazy.
These are all $300 million houses that are on the wheels on the water. Yeah, this is a haven of international criminality.
And look how close they park to each other. No income tax, no property tax fun Yeah, Monaco's fascinating the amount of wealth that I saw when I was there is crazy The amount of like expensive cars they were everywhere and people were just driving them around like it was a car show Like yeah, everyone all over the street was Ferraris and Lamborghinis and G wagons unreal s-classes It's on everywhere.
You, there's Bentleys. Well, those are the people we're talking about.
Those are the people who are like, we're living here, and you ain't, and you'll deal with it. And it's a small spot, too.
Well, they like it like that. They keep it nice like that.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you got to tap on the window if you want to go in the store. That might be where I do my podcast from eventually.
You might have to. Just go to Monaco.
Might be the only place. I just flee.
Where it doesn't get censored. Just flee.
And just live on a tiny boat, like a tugboat. The end is not good.
It would have been really rough if Kamala won. They would have clamped down on you.
And me. Yeah.
And everybody like us. I think.
It would have been a fun jail, though. It would have been our own El Salvador in jail.
I don't think they would have put us together. But all the tech people would have magically became Democrats.
Google Maps. You can just see a couple of these are just gigantic compared to some of the other ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at the size.
By the way, you know what's funny? The regular ones are also massively big. They're huge.
That's how big these are. But the guys with the regular ones are really jealous of the guy with the super big one.
Oh, of course. That's what's crazy.
They're all keeping up with the Joneses, and they're all fueling AI to take over.

Yeah.

Well, I think we figured it all out.

We did.

I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out.

I appreciate you always being here.

Of course.

Anytime.

Thank you, brother.

My pleasure.

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You're the best. Thank you.
Appreciate you, brother. My pleasure.
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Thank you. Appreciate you very much.

Appreciate you.

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