#2305 - Rich Vos

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Speaker 1 How are you, fella? Good to see you. Dude, you're fucking dripping with diamonds, sir.
What's going on? The road's been good to you.

Speaker 2 Look at you. I'm just so empty inside.

Speaker 2 This fills the hole for like, like, it's like, you know, you go by, you're like, oh, and then you get home. You go, I hate my life.

Speaker 2 I hate my insides and no spirituality, but I get to look at my just emptiness on, you know, tradition with rapper diamonds. I've ran out of,

Speaker 2 I've ran out of shit to buy.

Speaker 2 So, like, there's nothing.

Speaker 1 What kind of car are you driving?

Speaker 2 A Lexus IS350.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are fun. It's nice.
It's a good car. Bulletproof.
Never, never going to break.

Speaker 2 And it's so fast. And it's, you know, it's, but this is how fucked it.
Okay, so the two, two, okay, I had the Lexus 350, right? Or whatever. I went, and I had it for seven months, maybe.

Speaker 2 I went in to get it serviced, and I was kind of depressed, so I bought a different car.

Speaker 1 I said, I go,

Speaker 2 this is not, this is fucked up. So I bought the IS350.
I had the other car for seven fucking months. I go, you know what? That one looks cool.
So I bought that.

Speaker 2 And then I went in to get it,

Speaker 2 that service, and it was the exact same car a year later, but I liked the newer color, the newer gray.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 That gray, that whatever weird gray. Like a slate gray? Yeah, it's like, it looks good.
I said, you know what, fuck, give me this car.

Speaker 1 So I tried. Does he keep swapping them out? Yeah.
They must love you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Dave, fuck. I'm such a mooch.
On

Speaker 2 one year of my wife's birthday, I bought myself a new car.

Speaker 1 I bought it

Speaker 2 on her birthday. I'm like, happy birthday.
We could drive around in this.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That probably played off well. Ah, fuck.

Speaker 2 I buy her cars.

Speaker 2 So, you know,

Speaker 2 I get bored easy. I get bored easy.
And it's because of,

Speaker 2 you know, in life,

Speaker 2 in life,

Speaker 2 Really, like I see some of my friends doing arenas, doing this, doing that, but I have enough. I really have enough,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 it's not enough. Do you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think for my career, not for my personal life. My personal life, I got three fucking great daughters,

Speaker 2 three grandkids, another one on the way. My seven-year-old's going to go to college, has pick of all kinds of schools, you know, good schools.

Speaker 2 I fucking, in 11th grade, I raised my hand hand to go to the bathroom and I never came back. I just walked out like I'm a fucking idiot, you know, my past.
And my kids all grew up.

Speaker 2 Okay, the older one married a black guy, but he's light-skinned. Anyhow, the

Speaker 2 prettiest baby on the planet. So

Speaker 2 I have enough, but when it comes to career as a comic, and you know,

Speaker 2 one more fucking thing.

Speaker 2 Just one more thing. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I do know what you're saying.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it is. You know, I've had specials, not Netflix, but it's always, it's like I'm always doing the other club.
Right. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 I'm always,

Speaker 2 and I'm very

Speaker 2 blessed, and I love what I've achieved in this business, but it seems like it's always like,

Speaker 2 okay, I got a special on Amazon now. But it's not,

Speaker 2 it wasn't, amazon didn't buy it we placed it on them you know what i'm saying so it's always there's always one little thing when every pilot my wife and i have had together i've had

Speaker 2 gets this close to getting picked up you know like i've heard some of the no's i've heard

Speaker 2 they almost sounded like yeses they were such good no's i walked out and go that was the best no today that fucking no almost felt like a yes

Speaker 1 so in this business do you think you put something in in your mind to make all these things kind of fall short? Have you ever thought of that?

Speaker 2 Well, that's what my wife says.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you ever thought that like maybe the way you interface with the world is like your expectations are tempered like in a way where you almost want to fail because it's more comforting that it happened again rather than this new thing of success which is going to force you to really focus and work harder to get more success.

Speaker 1 And it's a lot of pressure. And then you you think about all the times you fucked up before and you don't want to hear, you don't want to hear no again.

Speaker 1 You don't want to hear it, but you feel like it's coming and you almost make it come.

Speaker 2 Well, I get that in life growing up

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 2 my childhood through drug addiction, I became comfortable being uncomfortable. That was my life.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Comfortable being in the skids.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this was what I was used to. In this business,

Speaker 2 I don't really ever set myself up for failure. I mean, I produce, I come up with albums,

Speaker 2 I'm always coming up with new material, and I got seven albums. I'll probably make an eighth album, which is a pretty, it's a lot for a career, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 I don't go into clubs and drink. I don't

Speaker 2 hit on waitresses.

Speaker 2 You know, so I don't know. But my wife says the exact same thing you're saying.
My wife said to me once,

Speaker 2 she said, because I have this power of thinking, like when I think really hard, it comes to me shit, right?

Speaker 2 And my wife goes, if you think you

Speaker 2 deserve a million dollars,

Speaker 2 you'll get a million dollars.

Speaker 2 And I said,

Speaker 2 God gives you what you need, not what you want. And then she said, you think Chelsea Handler needed a TV show? So she kind of like debunked my whole need, you know, and want thing.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 if you believe in some kind of

Speaker 2 power greater than your spiritual, I'm not religious by any fucking,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 shit comes to me. I don't think I fucking

Speaker 2 screw things up. I don't screw things up like, you know, in meetings or when we do pilots or whatever.
I do what I'm supposed to do, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 I mean, in comedy, yeah, for years, I might have been a little aggressive on stage or, you know, a little whatever.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 I think everything now, well, especially now with clubs or whatever, it's all numbers. They don't give a fuck if you light the weight staff on fire.
If you sold out the room, they go, oh, great.

Speaker 2 You were fabulous. You know,

Speaker 2 I was working catch years ago. I was at Catch.

Speaker 2 And Bill Hicks, okay, so David Brenner's on stage. And they love David Brenner.

Speaker 1 He's killing, killing.

Speaker 2 It was during the peak of David Brenner.

Speaker 2 He gets off.

Speaker 2 Bill Hicks goes up and he says, Growing up as a kid, I would see Robert Klein and David Brenner. And I figure if they could do it, I could do it.

Speaker 1 That was his opening job.

Speaker 2 So now he's doing his bit about Nancy Reagan skinny whatever and calling her the anti-crime I mean people are running out the door they're running out the door

Speaker 2 and then he gets off stage and he he says to me he goes what went wrong but but

Speaker 1 I swear to God he goes what was he serious yes or was he joking around no he was he

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Speaker 2 Whatever. He was built.
Hicks. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's hard to tell with him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But anyhow, the manager or booker now, after the, said to him,

Speaker 2 you can come and do a spot here anytime you want because he was Bill Hicks. Do you see what I'm saying? He was Bill Hicks.
You know, I worked with him in Texas.

Speaker 2 This is when I first started.

Speaker 2 And I'm watching him, you know.

Speaker 2 And we'll get back on track. I'm sorry to go off on these things.
Go wherever you want to go. So we're working in Texas.

Speaker 2 He just breaks up. His girlfriend breaks up with him at the time.
It's a true story.

Speaker 2 So he goes,

Speaker 2 where can you get a hooker? A prostitute. And the cab driver.
I like how you have to clarify. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of these young kids now that listen, okay?

Speaker 2 Hooker, a prostitute, okay?

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 The cab driver takes him to one house because they would take you to the

Speaker 2 and I go with him. He goes, take a ride.
So then we go to one house. She knocks on the door and she opens the door and goes, you're a cop, and slammed the door on him.

Speaker 2 Slammed the door on his young, slammed the door in his face.

Speaker 1 He looks like a cop.

Speaker 2 Then he went, but he also, the next place the cab driver took him, she opened the door and goes, you're too young, and slammed the door on him. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 The next night, he did 10 minutes or whatever on how he get can't pick up a prostitute in Lubbock, Texas. And I go, I'll never be this funny as long as I fucking live.

Speaker 2 Like I've watched people going amazing.

Speaker 2 You know, and

Speaker 2 then I was running then with Bastille. That's when I was running with Bastille.

Speaker 1 Frankie Bastille?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he, so he, I'll tell you,

Speaker 2 I think I told you this story. I've told this story, and it's been told, but I don't know if I told it last years ago when I did this.

Speaker 2 And then I'll get back to it. I'm not

Speaker 2 self-sabotaging. That's what you were getting to in my head.
Am I self-sabotaging?

Speaker 1 Not self-sabotaging. I don't think it's a self-sabotage thing.
It's not understanding the energy that you're putting out there and being accustomed to a certain result.

Speaker 1 If you're accustomed to missing your playing pool, you're accustomed to missing the nine-ball,

Speaker 1 you're going to miss that fucking nine-ball every time.

Speaker 2 Well, it happens in golf, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure. It happens in the same thing.
You got to

Speaker 1 reset the way you think about things. And if there's something that's eating away at you, that bothers you, that occupies your thoughts, you have to figure out what that is and clean that up.

Speaker 1 That's a big part of the problem with a lot of people. A lot of the problem with a lot of people is maybe

Speaker 1 they don't like something about themselves. They don't like what they've done.
They don't like

Speaker 1 choices they've made. And that's in your head all the time.

Speaker 1 The lack of clarity, the lack of peace is in your head all the time. And, you know, it's not easy.
This is not an easy thing, I'm saying. I'm not saying this is like, okay, here's the real formula.

Speaker 1 Just go out, follow these three steps, and you're going to be rich and famous.

Speaker 1 It's not that. It's just that success generally happens

Speaker 1 when you've got as many pieces as possible in order correctly. And failure generally happens when you're overwhelmed by too many things that are not working right

Speaker 1 and you've your your your attention and your focus is on them. You're divided.
You know, a lot of times you see it's like a terrible relationship.

Speaker 1 I've known a lot of really talented people that sabotage themselves with a terrible relationship and they think somehow or another that this is just how relationships are and this and they're terrible in that relationship.

Speaker 1 And then they can never be who they could be.

Speaker 1 They can never reach their full potential because they're always burdened down by these fucking squabbles they're having with their girlfriend or their boyfriend. You know,

Speaker 2 that's also too a God thing where you think I could fix this person or I could

Speaker 2 change him. No one can do it.
That's Brian Callan.

Speaker 1 He what? Brian Callen his whole life. I would tell him, get out now.

Speaker 1 I would meet his girlfriend. I'd be like, get out now.

Speaker 1 I met a girl, one girl that he dated. I literally, within five seconds of saying hello to her, I go, come here.
I pulled him aside.

Speaker 1 Cut to, okay? He doesn't listen. You know, later that night, like, she's drinking wine.
She's fucking hamburger. It's a disaster.
She winds up living with him.

Speaker 1 Eventually, he figures it out, gets rid of her. A couple years later, he's walking down the street on sunset and she's street walking.
No. Yes.
Girl he was living with at one point in time.

Speaker 1 This is Brian Callan.

Speaker 1 He felt abandoned when he was young. And so he, I believe I'm speaking for him.
And so

Speaker 1 he's a sweet guy and he tries to reach out and fix people.

Speaker 2 Well, here's my Brian Brian Callan story. It's very funny.
I was

Speaker 2 middling for him at Caroline's, which will never happen again because Caroline's is close.

Speaker 2 I'm middling for him. So I get off stage, and I'm single.

Speaker 2 This fucking smoking hot girl comes up to me and she goes, Come on, let's leave.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 2 I go,

Speaker 2 I got to sell my

Speaker 2 DVDs or

Speaker 1 CDs.

Speaker 2 I have to sell my DVDs or CDs after the show.

Speaker 2 I'm sitting here selling CDs, and I see Brian walk out with her right past me up the stairs.

Speaker 1 I fucked up, but maybe I didn't.

Speaker 2 Who knows?

Speaker 1 Well, you definitely didn't because Bonnie's awesome. No, I wasn't.
It worked out for you in the long run.

Speaker 1 But it's, yeah.

Speaker 1 You definitely should have left with her.

Speaker 2 No, I shouldn't have because that's where, that in life is where I was supposed to be at that time when I was there.

Speaker 1 Okay, I see what you're saying. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Truth is correct.

Speaker 1 And he can't. And also,

Speaker 1 what if she's a nightmare and then you miss out on whatever 400, 500 bucks you would have made selling DVDs?

Speaker 2 Oh, I didn't make that much.

Speaker 1 I never knew that. 100.

Speaker 1 100.

Speaker 1 Even 100.

Speaker 1 Now you're going to a nice restaurant and eating. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 2 You know, it's this whole negative thing with my

Speaker 2 and this isn't ego by any stretch when I say stuff like this.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I've,

Speaker 2 and my wife's, I know I've earned respect from my peers.

Speaker 1 I know it because I've done it

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 2 white to black comics, black comics that most white comics don't even know. You know what I mean? You know, we did a lot of those rooms back in the day.
Yeah, I ended all those TV shows.

Speaker 2 I did them all.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 please, I started black comedy. So,

Speaker 1 okay, you can only hold a white man down so long.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 and like,

Speaker 2 I think in life,

Speaker 2 I'm more about respect than accomplishment.

Speaker 1 So, you, you more about the respect from your peers.

Speaker 2 Not only my peers, the industry too, though. The industry doesn't know, like, say some club owner, let's say a club owner.
They're not sitting in the room watching your shows.

Speaker 2 All they care about are the fucking numbers that come in.

Speaker 2 I had a club owner once, I said to him, and you're lucky, you're way out of that, but I'm still, I'm in that.

Speaker 2 So I said to a club owner once, he goes, I said, look, I'm as funny as I've ever been right now in life. He goes, that doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 1 What does that matter?

Speaker 2 And it's all a quick fix.

Speaker 2 Right, they just want to sell tickets. Sell tickets.
And I get it. They got to keep the doors open.

Speaker 1 Because that's the weird marriage between the club owner and the comic. I used to tell comics,

Speaker 1 you know, we're not.

Speaker 1 comic feels like they're battling it with club owners. Like the club owner's never giving them enough money, the club owner's fucking them over, lied about it being sold out.

Speaker 1 It was definitely sold out. I want my bonus, that kind of shit.
Yeah. You don't want to be a club owner.
You don't. You don't.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I give that advice, then I became one, but just by necessity. But I was like, this is an important relationship.
Like, you got to be nice to them. And so they respect you.

Speaker 1 And you should, because everybody in the beginning, you feel like you're ignored by them. But it's a weird thing because they're just in the business of comedy.

Speaker 1 Unless you get like Brian Dorfman and Zane's, he really loves comedy. There's a few ones.
There's Wendy from Comedy Works in Denver.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you my Wendy story in a few minutes. I love Wendy.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 you'll like it.

Speaker 1 Okay, but my point is, it's like.

Speaker 2 Well, Corey in Rhode Island's one of the best fucking nicest guys on the planet.

Speaker 1 Rhode Islands? What's that one?

Speaker 2 Comedy Connection.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Mark and Rochester. To me, Dean, James, and Governors.

Speaker 1 The comedy connection in Rhode Island is weird because you're in a bank.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 It's so strange. That's how bad.

Speaker 2 That's how bad the market's doing.

Speaker 1 Well, that was in the 80s. He did that.
That was when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 He fixed the whole thing up. Yes.
The whole camera system. It's a great club.

Speaker 1 It was always a great club. Plus, there's not a lot in Rhode Island.
So when you go there, people are so happy to see you. It's, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 And I'm not bad-mouthing her, Wendy. I don't know her like this.
So

Speaker 2 I worked at a club twice.

Speaker 2 And the second time I worked there was Halloween weekend. I mean, it was a guy in the audience in Blackface, whatever.

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah, this was, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago.

Speaker 1 10, 15 years ago. 10 years ago.

Speaker 2 But wait a second. So

Speaker 2 she wasn't even there the week. Okay.
She tells my manager, I did a lot of crowd work, whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So anyhow, this is

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 I'm working at

Speaker 2 Syracuse Funnybone, and my middle,

Speaker 2 very funny guy, I think he passed away. He was an older guy, really great Joe Grider.

Speaker 2 He's from Denver. He goes, oh, I do a podcast with Wendy.

Speaker 2 And he sees that I'm closing. And he goes, I'll talk to her.
So I email Wendy. And I go, hey, listen, why don't we start from scratch? Let bygones be bygones.

Speaker 2 Start over, whatever.

Speaker 2 You know, I'd love to come back in.

Speaker 2 And she doesn't get back to me. So I write,

Speaker 2 by your lack of response, it looks like you want to move forward. Here are some available dates.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 she doesn't get back to me again.

Speaker 1 Shocker.

Speaker 2 And I write, can I bring my own middle?

Speaker 1 What do I care? Right, it's okay.

Speaker 2 It's funny. I'm trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 So she was just upset that you did crowd work? That's it?

Speaker 2 No, well, the numbers were low, probably. It was Halloween weekend.

Speaker 1 But listen, I work enough.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I'm saying, I'm not bad-mouthing any of these people because you bad-mouth, you're the one who looks bad. I'm not bad-mouthing them.

Speaker 2 She's got a business to run, whatever she's got to do, just like any of them. They have a business to run.

Speaker 2 If this is who they're going to bring in to keep their doors open, I'll always find fucking work. I don't care.
You know what I'm saying? Yes.

Speaker 2 So, and industry-wise, I mean, now it's a whole, look, my wife is killing it because she's a writer and a comic. And, you know, she's writing movies.
She's punching up movies.

Speaker 2 She wrote for the Golden Globes.

Speaker 1 You know, she

Speaker 2 has different outlets.

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Speaker 2 God, when I quit cigarettes, I quit cigars because I was scared I was going to start smoking.

Speaker 1 You probably would.

Speaker 2 I probably would because it would lead, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're puffing on tobacco. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You don't want to inhale it. That's why, you know, I can't even put a dick in my mouth because I'm scared.
I understand. You know that.
So,

Speaker 2 you know, she has different outlets as a stand-up. I'm just a stand-up.
I'm a club comic. I love, you know, I do theaters.
I do whatever. But I love doing,

Speaker 2 I really like doing clubs.

Speaker 1 So it sounds like you're doing exactly what you want to do. Yes.
So what the fuck's the problem?

Speaker 2 I don't think there is a problem, but I said just one more thing to put it over the top. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 One more.

Speaker 1 You're never totally satisfied, Rich Fox.

Speaker 2 Well, that's a good point, yes.

Speaker 2 I'm an addict, you know, so look,

Speaker 2 here's my fucking,

Speaker 2 here's how fucked up I am. How fucked up are you? I'm going to tell you right now, Sam.

Speaker 2 And this is not any.

Speaker 2 In the morning, I drink my coffee, I sit at the table. Sounds like me.
And I put a bird feeder, and I watch the birds feed. And it's very relaxing, watching them all come and feed.

Speaker 2 It's very, very relaxing.

Speaker 2 Now

Speaker 2 I have seven bird feeders around my property because I figured, well, this will be seven times more relaxing watching the bird feed.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about bird chaos.

Speaker 2 No, but they're all over. I mean, I got ones that I, with a video camera, I could see who's coming, the squirrel.
I don't care if the squirrel eats, you know, but it's my addictive personality

Speaker 1 where you always want more. A little more.
Yeah, just a little more. New car.
Different color. Same colour.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One more race. One more race.
One more tattoo.

Speaker 2 I took two off.

Speaker 2 You know, so it's.

Speaker 2 And I work on myself. I go to meetings two, three a week.
You know, I.

Speaker 1 Still, after all these years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you still feel the pull after all these years?

Speaker 2 No, I haven't got gambling to fall back on.

Speaker 1 What are you gambling on? What am I gambling on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 I mean, once in a while, I'll play on my phone at night

Speaker 2 slots.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did real well.

Speaker 1 You made money?

Speaker 2 Yeah, last year.

Speaker 1 I got to say, slots on your phone sounds like the dumbest fucking idea because there is no way it's not fixed. At least a slot machine is random.

Speaker 2 Well, slots in the casino is the biggest sucker bet on the biggest sucker bet. I'll play craps.

Speaker 2 If I'm going to gamble on a casino, I'm going to play craps like a man.

Speaker 1 You know what drives me fucking crazy when I hear

Speaker 1 someone hits the slots and they won't give out. They won't give the money because there was an error with the machine.

Speaker 2 That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 I've heard that many times. Like, fuck your errors.

Speaker 1 Give that guy his money.

Speaker 2 This is what I won last year on slots.

Speaker 1 Let me see this. Really? Yeah.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got to do that. Two jackpots.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 But now I keep playing and think I'll get more.

Speaker 2 I think I'll hit the big one.

Speaker 1 You know, that's how they get you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, okay.

Speaker 1 I have a friend who's very wealthy and is a fucking degenerate gamble, Dana White from the

Speaker 2 videos, degenerate.

Speaker 1 He's a nut. But I was just reading an article about Hunter Campbell, who's the financial officer, was like trying to talk to him, just saying,

Speaker 1 you're killing me.

Speaker 1 Why are you doing this? He loves it. Love that.

Speaker 2 There's shit that goes off in your head.

Speaker 2 Even when you lose, you're like, I mean,

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 makes you feel like you're alive. Something's happening.

Speaker 2 I was in Vegas

Speaker 2 and I walked to the table with 300 bucks, crap table.

Speaker 2 And it's me and the whole table is...

Speaker 2 I mean, I held the dice for almost an hour. 300, I turned into 5,000.
The table's going nuts. I'm winning everybody.
Formula and diapers at the table. They're fucking yelling.
Cat with a hat.

Speaker 2 And it's just such a, you know, and then for the rest of the week, I didn't gamble again because I go, I can't follow that. I'm not going to be able to do that again.
So it's not like

Speaker 2 I'm obsessed with it. Numbers, I am kind of, but, you know, I've been to casinos and worked for three, four days and not even played.

Speaker 2 But when I do,

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 2 like me, my wife and I were in Canada and we went to a casino. I go, well,

Speaker 2 let me go back to the hotel and put some,

Speaker 2 put my credit cards and money there. And she goes, you can't go into a casino with all your money and credit cards.
I go.

Speaker 1 How does she ask that question? She knows you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 She should know you can't. She's fucking with you.
Well, she knows you can't.

Speaker 1 She should say good for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 She should say good for you. That's smart.

Speaker 2 But she didn't know me when I was an addict. Oh.
She never saw me when I was out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I, well, I guess I did. I knew you when you were an addict.
But

Speaker 1 I knew, but you cleaned up nice. You really did.
You figured it out well. You really did.
So, like, she should, she should know that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Not to go to the concert.

Speaker 1 She should be more supportive.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm trying to say. How about that, Bonnie?

Speaker 1 You know what? That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 now we're.

Speaker 1 You guys are one of the funniest couples of all time, though. There's like a few, like Christina Pazinski and Tom Sagura,

Speaker 1 Natasha Leggiero, Motion Casher. There's a few, like, you know, people say, like, comics shouldn't date comics.
Well,

Speaker 1 I don't know about that because sometimes it fucking works really well.

Speaker 2 What am I going to do? Come home to a dentist? You know,

Speaker 2 for me, you know, we, you know, we really come together when we find the same enemy and the same person we could trash. Yeah.
You know, or we talk comedy. We make each other laugh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we fight and have all the fucking, you know, we're a married couple.

Speaker 1 And you're comics. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we're kind of what, so to be.

Speaker 1 So you're talking shit.

Speaker 2 Well, to be a male comic, you got to be fucked up. To be a female comic, that's a whole nother level of fucking up.
Because, you know, they go on the road. They got to worry about everything.

Speaker 1 They're worried about

Speaker 1 fans. Yeah.
They got to worry about fans attracting them.

Speaker 2 Where they're staying.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 What it's like.

Speaker 1 It's stalked. Oh, yeah.
That's horrible.

Speaker 2 And thank you for saying we're funny. Yeah, we're together.

Speaker 1 You guys are very funny. It's like, you know, I was using it as an example because comics will say all the time, don't date comics.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 I don't know about that because, like, why not? I don't think you should never date bruh. Although I stopped dating Italians when I was 21.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's just the last one swung at me.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm done.

Speaker 2 Well, I only dated Irish.

Speaker 1 As she was swinging, I was like, I can't believe she's swinging at me. That's hilarious.
Like, while this was happening, her arm was pulling back. It was coming towards my face.

Speaker 2 Like, I can't fucking believe this is happening.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 I only date Irish. Like, I can't afford a Jew broad.
So if

Speaker 1 I went fucking Irish, I'd rather go to fucking Marshall's than Barney's.

Speaker 1 Well, also, like, you probably, well, the thing about Jewish women, the stereotype is that they're very controlling.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like how the mom is. You know, it's like you take that role of like the mom of the house, then your wife becomes your mom.
That's the stereotype. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it's always that way.

Speaker 2 Very a little naggy. A little naggy.
Yeah. And I mean, look, fucking Bonnie grew up on a farm killing chickens.
You know, perfect.

Speaker 1 She's fucking, I, she's good for the, like, when the revelation comes.

Speaker 2 And not only that, I have running water.

Speaker 2 You know, they had a fucking, I slept on the floor. She grew up like I did.

Speaker 1 Poor.

Speaker 2 Poor. And we started dating.
I mean, I was already in the business for I don't know how many years. It's like they say don't date comics.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, if you're a new comic and they're a new comic, it's going to be competition the whole time. It's going to be jealousy.
But I was already established and she was established.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be.
It could be, but it doesn't, like, these like hard, fast rules, they don't work. It all completely depends on the individual.

Speaker 1 I mean, how different are comics? Like, how different are you to Shane Gillis? How different am I to Ari Shafir? Like, we're all different.

Speaker 1 Even though we're all real good friends, we're all, there's no hard rules. No,

Speaker 2 I luckily came up with

Speaker 2 one of the strongest crews in New York.

Speaker 1 Oh, you came up with the name. Amazing.
You know, from

Speaker 2 Patrice, Norton,

Speaker 2 Billy, Bobby, Colin, you know, Kev, Lil, you know, Kevin Hart. It was an amazing crew.
You know, our crew, and, you know, Bonnie hung on.

Speaker 1 Bro, I knew you back when you had Jerry Curls.

Speaker 2 You knew me when I was doing Robin Gibbons bits.

Speaker 1 That's right. It was in the 80s.

Speaker 2 You don't remember. You might remember.
We were working a one-nighter in Seaside, New Jersey. It was my ex-wife.
And me, you and her took a walk to the boardwalk. We were in Seaside,

Speaker 2 right on the boardwalk. And it was just me, you and her.
I think you just came down from Boston. And I don't think you were living in New York.

Speaker 2 I think you were just doing some shows, some one-nighters and shit. And we did a one-nighter.

Speaker 2 Okay, I probably first, it had to be, I got 39 years with her, probably like 38 years ago.

Speaker 1 Oh, that doesn't even make sense because I've been doing comedy for 30, well, let me say, 88, 97, 37 years.

Speaker 2 Okay, so then I, okay, I was with Bonnie, so yeah, I mean, Kelly. So I had, you're right, I had.

Speaker 1 It had to be like 1990 then.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I had like four years clean.

Speaker 1 90 was when I first started coming to

Speaker 1 New York.

Speaker 1 You were already clean by then?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, so and I was already married. So yeah, I had five years clean.
So it was maybe like 34 years ago, which could fall, or 35. So yeah, we're working a one-nighter,

Speaker 2 and I remember walking up the street, me, you, and Bonnie,

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 1 the boardwalk. I mean, Kelly.
Kelly.

Speaker 2 To the boardwalk. To the boardwalk.
And it was just some one-nighter. And then I don't know if we ever worked again together.
Oh, well, Dangerfields. We did some shit.

Speaker 1 We did Carolines together, too. I remember doing Carolines with you.

Speaker 1 Oh, we did a lot of Dangerfield shows together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did we ever do prom shows together? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jesus. And

Speaker 1 people should know what prom shows are. So, New York has a very weird thing where they take kids from like Staten Island and Brooklyn and they bring them in in fucking buses to Dangerfields.

Speaker 1 And the show would run from like 7 p.m. till 5 in the morning.
No break. No break.
Just you would go one show and you'd get paid by the show. It was like, it was good money.

Speaker 1 I forget what it was, but it was like, you get paid by, like, you can make a couple grand in a night if you did the whole night. So you would do stand-up from 7 p.m.
to like 5 a.m.

Speaker 2 But sometimes some of the shows were the same, some of the same crowd.

Speaker 1 Most of the shows.

Speaker 1 They didn't move the people out. They just pushed new kids in.
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Speaker 2 So we were doing proms at Dangerfields, and this is all young kids in high, you know, getting ready to go to college.

Speaker 2 And Ronnie goes on.

Speaker 2 He walks on stage in a robe, drunk. He's not doing comedy.

Speaker 1 He's bumming the crap.

Speaker 2 He's talking about his divorce or death.

Speaker 2 And all these guys are just, they're all looking at him like the jury from my cousin Vinny. When they were looking at the stuttering lawyer, their eyes were just going, What is going on with this man?

Speaker 2 Right. And he just, it was the most depressed.
And then I think Brian Regan had a follow him.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 the fact, I mean, if you look at your career and some of mine and Brian Regan, we were doing prom shows. Yeah.
I did, I did, there was a contest at Rascals,

Speaker 2 and I think the winner got to do comedy on a plane.

Speaker 1 That was back when they smoked on planes.

Speaker 2 And I think Jon Stewart was one of the contestants. Like, I remember doing, I remember doing some, or else it was a Johnny Walker competition.

Speaker 2 I was there. It was like me, Jon Stewart, Jim Gaffigan, you know, to do some Johnny Walker tour.
I don't fucking know, whatever the contest was, but it was all these contests.

Speaker 2 But you would see, look, I worked fucking clubs.

Speaker 2 I was working one club once.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 after the show, it was in Scranton, PA at a holiday inn, me and another comic.

Speaker 2 After the show, the owner brings us in the back room and pulls out a gigantic bag of Coke and says, Do you want Coke or money? And I took the Coke.

Speaker 2 And the guy who took the money is Adam Sandler. And look where he is.
And look where I am.

Speaker 1 Adam Sandler took the money.

Speaker 2 And old fucking, he opened up. He's a guitar comic.
And he opened up.

Speaker 1 That was Nick's Comedy Stop thing, Coke or Money. Oh, yeah.
I worked. In Boston? Did they offer you Coke or Money?

Speaker 2 I don't. And I was getting high because when I first started comedy, somehow they,

Speaker 2 what was his name?

Speaker 2 Dominic and Jackie Gateman or something. They liked me for some reason.
I stunk, but they would give me spots at Nick's, and I would get either money.

Speaker 2 But I would buy Coke from Mike, the drug dealer that the Columbians killed. He was their Coke dealer up there.

Speaker 2 I would stay behind the connection at the Milner Hotel, which was all prostitutes and drug addicts, right?

Speaker 2 And, you know, I would go up there. Nick's was giving me shows upstairs, downstairs.

Speaker 2 So the one time, the last time I was up in Boston, I did Springfield Mass and Westfield Mass, 252 Elm and some other Norm Lafoe shit.

Speaker 1 Norm Lafoe, Western Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 So then I went to NYX. I go, I'm not spending my money on drugs.

Speaker 1 I'm not, this, I'm coming home with fucking money, right?

Speaker 2 So I'm working this place called Plums in Worcester. and this waitress oh fucking smoking hot after the show

Speaker 2 uh because i did some coke bits she goes you do coke i go yeah i go i go i go i go do you do you know where i can get any coke and we couldn't get any coke in boston i'm not

Speaker 2 we drove from boston i went back to new york bought a bunch of crack. We got a hotel, smoked all night.

Speaker 2 We had sex, this and that.

Speaker 2 And it was Saturday night, and I'm 40 minutes from home, and I have one more show in Boston on a Sunday, and I have to drive her all the way back to Boston.

Speaker 2 No money left, maybe $10 or $20,

Speaker 2 just enough to get back to Boston, do my show, luggage in a fucking paper bag. We stop on the way up in Hartford.

Speaker 2 We try to buy Coke or heroin and we got ripped off. She's crying because she's going to lose her job.

Speaker 2 Fucking blood started pouring out of my nose as we're driving, just pouring out.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, she lost crazy. I swear to God.
Right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 and then she goes, my sister wants an ounce of Coke. So I was going to set her up and rip her off.
And, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, get a free ounce of Coke. Well, anyhow

Speaker 2 two weeks later i i end up in rehab that was my bottom that fucking trip to boston i end up in rehab and

Speaker 2 about a year or two later i'm working fort lauderdale and her sister's there with her boyfriend who's the size of a fucking house so if i did rip her off I would have gotten fucking the shit killed beaten out of me.

Speaker 2 You know, what are the odds?

Speaker 2 So that last trip to boston and i spent all the money i wasn't gonna spend but this girl was fucking hot you know then i i came out of rehab

Speaker 2 and i think i had like a month or two months clean and

Speaker 2 i'm working uh daytona beach

Speaker 2 There's fucking weight.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was, I had bad teeth, fucking cherry curl. And my wife says this.
She saw videos of me from Ralph. And she goes,

Speaker 2 you're such a mess, but you had so much confidence. And girls like confidence, right? Because I would be on stage, fucking rotten teeth and fucking grease dripping out of my hair.

Speaker 2 So I'm a fucking mess. I look like a fucking rat.
And

Speaker 2 this hot waitress in Daytona, we go back to her place

Speaker 2 and I'm making out with her and something tastes funny. I go, what? And she pulls out a bag of Coke.
And I had like a month clean, two months. I go, I can't do that.
I got to get out of here.

Speaker 2 I mean, I fucked her, but then I left real quick, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, and it was scary.

Speaker 1 So you never bounced back. You never went back to drugs.
No, no. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 39 years ago.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. You have one fall off, and you're like, I'm done.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, here's for me now,

Speaker 2 and, you know, as the years accumulated,

Speaker 2 you know, I was. I was working, I was saving money, I was buying, you know, if I went and got high now, this watch alone would kill me.
I could porn this watch. Right.

Speaker 2 It would be enough money for me to die.

Speaker 2 You know, money I've hidden around the house.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 2 no one's going to find it.

Speaker 2 Don't even think, hey, we're going to go to Voss's house and find his money. This shit is fucking hidden well.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 So go fuck yourselves.

Speaker 1 So anyhow,

Speaker 1 I'll die.

Speaker 2 There's no, look,

Speaker 2 for a year, and I got to get back on track. I stopped eating,

Speaker 2 not keto, but cut back on carbs sugar just i did real well for a year i mean i was fucking ripping up again and for my age and it's harder my daughter comes upstairs and goes oh i made homemade chocolate chip cookies i go oh give me one well the seventh cookie i had to throw in the garbage the seventh i go i can't i gotta stop so that's how my fucking mind is there's no

Speaker 2 There's no one time.

Speaker 2 The fuck, I play golf and guys are drinking a beer. I go, what the fuck are are you doing? We like to taste fuck off.
Gatorade tastes good. You drink to get drunk.
What are you drinking a beer?

Speaker 2 You know, and it's just, and on stage, if I go, I quit, someone goes, quit it. Shut the fuck up.
You're here having wine coolers, bitch. Sell your mother's car to get high.
Go fuck yourself. Wow.

Speaker 2 You don't know anything about getting high.

Speaker 1 You're fighting with people who aren't even here. I know.
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 They shower, arguing with these guys. Oh, you know how many fucking arguments I've had?

Speaker 2 I know you're going to bring in your whole pro-Palestinian crew that I was going to fight today,

Speaker 2 which I have stuff printed out. We'll read later.

Speaker 1 We'll read later.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 it's so funny.

Speaker 2 You're having fights with people. You don't ever lay in bed or argue with, have arguments with people that

Speaker 2 you've never had.

Speaker 1 I did when I was young. Yeah, I figured that out when I was younger.
This is stupid. And when the impulse comes, which it does, I just, I go, this is stupid.
I talk to myself. I just coach myself.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to have like another voice in your head.

Speaker 1 Most people have one voice in their head, and that voice is like, we should go get high, or we should do this.

Speaker 1 You have to have a second voice. And the second voice is like, what advice would I give me?

Speaker 1 And the advice I would give me is like, you're wasting your time arguing in the shower with someone who doesn't even. They don't even know you're arguing with them.
I know, it's true.

Speaker 1 You're not even there. You're like replaying it out in your head so you could have had a better thing to say to them.

Speaker 2 They say they're living rent-free in your head.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 I don't allow anybody in my head.

Speaker 2 No, I had the second voy. I do, and I'm not religious by any, but I'll say,

Speaker 2 you know, God kept me off.

Speaker 2 You know, what should I do? What's my purpose? Or what can I do

Speaker 2 in life? You know, look, my main purpose in life,

Speaker 2 besides being, my main purpose is staying sober, because if I don't, I'm dead easily, and everything I throw away. Then my family, obviously, you know,

Speaker 2 and my career, you know.

Speaker 2 All the shit I put about Israel, this and that. That's that's my life is comedy.

Speaker 2 But I think in life, if you're not part of the, like I said, solution, you're part of the problem with what's going on in this world, with in this, mainly in this country, the anti-Semitism in this country.

Speaker 1 The anti-Semitism in this country is weird because it popped up like it was hiding. You know, after October 7th, it popped up like it was hiding.
Like,

Speaker 1 where has this been here the whole time? It was weird. And I think there's a lot of it in on Twitter in these places that I think is not human beings and that inspires human beings to get bold.

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of it that's bots. There's a lot of it that's bots.
I see these.

Speaker 1 When someone says something outrageous on Twitter, I'll go to the account and see like what they're doing.

Speaker 1 And sometimes I go, I go, oh, this isn't a person. Like, you can figure it out after like a couple of pages.
Like, this is not an actual person.

Speaker 1 This is a person that jumps onto every controversial subject and says something insightful. And they do it over and over again.

Speaker 1 And you see it with abortion, you see it with immigration, you see it with voting, you see it with the rigged elections. Like, there was an FBI analyst who

Speaker 1 took a look at Twitter before the purchase and he said, I think it's as much as 80% bots.

Speaker 1 I think we're getting played as a civilization back and forth. I think we're getting, I think so many people are vulnerable to like following a narrative.

Speaker 2 Well, and

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 2 And I've said this.

Speaker 2 And I believe in free speech.

Speaker 2 When we talked about this, you didn't agree with it.

Speaker 2 I didn't agree with free speech? No, no, no. What I said about the internet,

Speaker 2 some people

Speaker 2 in life use that platform shouldn't have a platform in life because

Speaker 2 they're nuts. They're nuts.
Like, if you had someone in an audience that's nuts,

Speaker 2 you're going to work them out. You're going to get rid of them.

Speaker 1 Right, but that's the difference between an audience and the internet is you don't have to engage with the nuts.

Speaker 2 Okay, but there's people that are following these nuts. Okay, you take

Speaker 2 whatever's going on in the Middle East,

Speaker 2 whatever side side you're on, Israel, Palestine, whatever,

Speaker 1 why

Speaker 2 are college campuses letting

Speaker 2 this happen on campus where Jews can't go to class, where they're being harassed, where they feel threatened?

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of that stuff is funded.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's funded by Qatar or whatever. Or whatever.

Speaker 1 Whoever is doing it, there's most certainly there's funding an organization involved. These aren't organic protests that just pop up.

Speaker 2 No, of course.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants to think they are because some people join organically. They hop in, but it's not.
No, it's not. These are all being organized.
Of course.

Speaker 1 Including the anti-Elon protests, including like, you know, the

Speaker 1 end to oligarchy rallies that they have with AOC and Bernie Sanders. All this shit is getting, it's all getting funded and astro-turfed and they're bussing people in.
They're manufacturing a movement.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 2 And I mean, listen, they didn't didn't all go out and buy the same tents right you know they you know it's and there's i don't know how many that are getting funded and then they bring in you know it's just like the tents are crazy it's just

Speaker 2 camp out for palestine yeah it's it it's just like

Speaker 2 you know

Speaker 2 i don't want to get into the 80s and foreclosures on on farms you know farm aid well the when banks were foreclosing on farms Jews were going, look, the Jews are foreclosing on our farm, the Jewish bankers, and they weren't even the bankers doing it.

Speaker 2 It was the WASP bankers. Jews barely worked at Chase Manhattan in the early 80s or 70s.
But they blame the Jews. But they blame, because it's easy to go after

Speaker 2 that.

Speaker 2 So throughout the Midwest or the South, it's easier. to build up hatred or a group to go after a smaller group going, hey, these people are closing on your farms.

Speaker 2 These are the people that are doing it. And these people don't have the knowledge.
And the hate just grows and grows from generation to generation.

Speaker 2 Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 So, you know, same with, you know, the

Speaker 2 look, I got shit I printed out.

Speaker 2 You know, I'll show it later. Maybe.
I don't know. I mean, listen, I'm a comic, but I really, you see what I post sometimes.
I post some shit. And it's not, I'm not anti,

Speaker 2 I'm not anti-Israel. I'm just pro-Israel, but I'm pro-Jew.
I'm pro-Jew in this country, and I'm not religious by any stretch. I don't fucking, I think it's a holiday now.

Speaker 2 It's Passover or something. I don't fucking know.
I'm not religious. My cousins were, my family wasn't.

Speaker 1 You think about it as a people.

Speaker 2 I think about it as, yes, as a people. You know, if what was happening in this world to black people or gay people, these colleges would put an end to it.
It would stop.

Speaker 2 If people were ripping down posters of hostages, of black hostages or gay hostages when that was happening,

Speaker 2 it wouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 It wouldn't. Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 That was crazy where people were upset that people wanted people to bring the hostages home. Like these hostages, some of them were aid workers.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Some of them were people that lived there so they could help people in Gaza. The whole thing is so crazy.
But I wonder, like, how did they get turned that way?

Speaker 1 Or were they, like what I said, like, they were in hiding? There was like anti-Semitism. See, as a person who's not a Jew, I would hear about all the anti-Semitism.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, there's always going to be some, but maybe everyone's exaggerating. But then, when this, after October 7th, it was just like, oh, she's

Speaker 1 fucking everywhere. Are you?

Speaker 2 What's your background?

Speaker 1 Irish? Italian? Italian. Yeah, mostly one-quarter Irish.
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Speaker 2 If every surrounding country

Speaker 1 hated

Speaker 2 Italy, they're going to fight back by any means necessary.

Speaker 1 I 100%.

Speaker 2 Can I show you some stuff? Okay.

Speaker 2 Now we don't have to do it. We can talk.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I got to do a little of it.

Speaker 1 A little. Whatever you want.
I don't care. Do whatever you want.
I'm joking around.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, I understand. And I think that's also one of the things that people like.
My wife should keep away. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 When people get angry about Jews is because they think that Jews always stick together. And they like Jews above all else.
And then it's like, fuck those people.

Speaker 1 You know, there's like that walled garden approach. You know,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 what do you got there? You got a manila envelope like you're in fucking court. Look at this.

Speaker 2 Relax. I come together.

Speaker 1 What do you got?

Speaker 1 Charts? Yeah, well, here's... Did you bring graphs? What's that first page? Is that a photo of Israel? What is it? You got a map? You brought maps?

Speaker 2 Look at it.

Speaker 1 He brought maps for me.

Speaker 1 This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you.

Speaker 2 Look at the dot. Look at the size of Israel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very small. Look at who's surrounded by Israel.
Yeah, they're surrounded by a bunch of Muslims. All right.

Speaker 1 Not a good spot to be if if you're Jew so would they should probably move to a different spot

Speaker 1 it's like you know you know what I mean I got other better stuff I just start off with the weaker stuff if you're you're a black guy you move into a KKK neighborhood that's like

Speaker 2 you're gonna have problems yeah I mean so it is kind of crazy wouldn't you think

Speaker 2 by any means necessary they're gonna do what they fucking have to do to survive yes I totally think they would and I understand that aspect of it is that your phone Yeah, I got to turn it on there.

Speaker 2 Sorry. My wife.
I don't know how she got my number.

Speaker 2 Start the car.

Speaker 1 It is crazy when you look at the map.

Speaker 1 It's not just that they're surrounded, but they're surrounded by everyone. It's enormous countries.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 all the way up. It's interesting.
You go down Saudi Arabia at the end of it. You forget, oh, it's Ethiopia's right there.

Speaker 2 And then, I mean, Turkey hates Israel. Fucking Iran.
You know, they're being attacked by four or five different nations at once. And everybody's going, well,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 they're committing genocide. First of all, those numbers are

Speaker 2 coming from Hamas. Where do you think those numbers are coming from?

Speaker 1 Okay, but the drone footage isn't coming from Hamas. The drone footage is real.
Like, if you cover Gaza with a drone, there's nothing left. It's pretty nuts.

Speaker 2 Well, I bet you if they released the hostages October 10th, none of this shit would have happened. That's true.
None of this shit would have happened.

Speaker 2 During the Clinton administration, Arafat was in the White House probably six or seven times.

Speaker 2 The head of the CIA during the Clinton administration visited the White House twice. Arafat six or seven times.
And they offered a two-state solution.

Speaker 2 Clinton, that would have been Clinton's legacy to have peace and the two-states. But Arafat kept turning it down because Arafat's a terrorist.
And if he does that, what purpose does he serve?

Speaker 2 What purpose? He's.

Speaker 1 Is it that simple?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 to me, it is because I'm not the smartest.

Speaker 1 It's part of the problem.

Speaker 1 Part of the problem with Israel and Palestine, and I've sat down and thought about this conflict. Not that I'm an expert either, but it's almost insurmountable.

Speaker 1 And then now, after October 7th, with all the bombings, and when they leveled Gaza, it's like, how do you fix this?

Speaker 1 It's like there's no,

Speaker 1 you've created whatever the numbers are,

Speaker 1 whether it's 70,000 people or 20,000 people that have been killed, that are innocents, you've created so many more potential terrorists because so many of the children of those people and the brothers and sisters and relatives of those people.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it's like reinforced this desire to fight against Israel.

Speaker 2 But we...

Speaker 1 You know, and you could squash that. You just keep pounding them down until there's nothing left, which is what it seems that they're doing.

Speaker 1 And I understand it from a tactical perspective, I guess.

Speaker 2 Do we have that animosity and hatred from Japan towards us where we dropped... you know, killed 350,000 people?

Speaker 2 I mean...

Speaker 1 Well, they did for a while.

Speaker 1 They certainly did for a long while. Yeah, but you had friends who'd go to Japan in the 70s and they said you could feel the hatred.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but now it's that's it's 55 yeah they're not like that at all now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. But it's a totally completely different generation.
So you think future generations will think about Israel the same way we think about Japan? Or Japan thinks about us?

Speaker 2 No, because future generations in the Middle East, this has been going since day one, since the Six-Day War, since the Yom Kippur War,

Speaker 2 since day one, they've been being attacked. So there's never

Speaker 1 no...

Speaker 1 Well, it's also before Israel was founded. You got to go back to how they were being persecuted in Europe.
It was insane. There's

Speaker 1 this guy, Daryl Cooper, who's a lightning rod for controversy, unfortunately, but he's got an amazing podcast. He's got this series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 And it starts out with the Jews being persecuted in Europe. And he takes you through what it would have been like for those people.

Speaker 1 And the gangs of people roaming down the streets, raping women, beating men to death in the streets. And it's so crazy because it's real.
It happened. And it was these people's neighbors.

Speaker 1 And, you know, this was why they got so many people to move to Israel in the first place. Because when they said, look, we're setting up a state.
for

Speaker 1 just for Jews from all these Eastern European Jews are like, okay, we're in. And they moved.
I mean, you know, and then you have.

Speaker 2 And they've also been there since Christ. I mean, they've been in Israel.

Speaker 1 Even before that, right? Yeah. A couple weeks.

Speaker 1 But I think it predates.

Speaker 1 Doesn't it predate Jesus? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not his story, and this isn't my.

Speaker 1 Let's find out. Let's find out since we can.

Speaker 1 What is the earliest, who were the, when did Jews first settle the land that's now known as Israel?

Speaker 1 It was Judea back then, right? Like, what was it called? What was it initially called? Miami. But also,

Speaker 1 this is like,

Speaker 1 you know, this is one of the reasons why this area is so

Speaker 1 contentious is because Christians really believe that when Jesus comes back, that's where he's going to go.

Speaker 1 He's going to come back to Jerusalem. Like,

Speaker 1 are you fucking sure? But

Speaker 2 here's another thing, too.

Speaker 2 And I'm not, listen, I've worked, I'm not going to be that guy. Oh, I had a Muslim.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Jews have been a history in the land of Israel. Their presence dating back to the second millennial BCE.

Speaker 1 Okay, settling in the area around 1,250 BCE.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that predates Jesus by 1,250 years.

Speaker 1 It's funny they call it before current era. Like current era is not 2,000 years ago.
Just say before Jesus, you motherfuckers. That's what I say.

Speaker 1 2nd millennial BCE, the Israelites, considered to be the ancestors of the Jewish people, emerged as an outgrowth of the southern Canaanites.

Speaker 1 The Israelites entered Canaan in 1250 BCE, settling the hill country in the south.

Speaker 1 10th century BCE, two Israelite kingdoms, northern kingdom of Israel and the southern kingdom of Judea, emerged, or Judah rather, emerged.

Speaker 1 The kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE, and in 586 BCE, the kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Neo-Babylonian Empire. 538 BC, the

Speaker 1 Persian Cyrus the Great ended the Babylonian exile, and the Jews returned to their homeland. So they've been there since 538 B.C., started to 1250 B.C., so they were there before anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Romans destroyed the Second Temple of Jerusalem in 70, current era, leading to the Jewish Despora.

Speaker 1 Wow. Crazy fucking history of controversy in that one place.
48, the state of Israel was established. Many Holocaust survivors welcomed it as a homeland.

Speaker 2 Yeah, in 1948, and since then, they've been at war.

Speaker 1 And so they started settling. Another wave of Jews started coming in 1904, from 1904 to 1914.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 538 BCE.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the problem is like, we're Palestinians there. And like, what are they? They don't even have a country.

Speaker 1 If you've got people that are right next to you that don't even have a country,

Speaker 1 they don't have, you know, what do they do if they're ruled by Hamas? How do they fight back?

Speaker 1 They are protesting in the streets now. They are against Hamas.
Yeah, they are. They get executed.

Speaker 2 Did you just see that? The big protest? I just saw that.

Speaker 1 Thousands and thousands of courageous people protesting in the street.

Speaker 1 They're like, we don't want any more of this. Stop it.
Well, look what happened.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 2 got, I mean, Kush of Israel's help got Assad out of Syria. Now the rebels took over, but Assad killed almost 500,000 of his own people, tortured 100,000.
I mean, those are the numbers I read.

Speaker 2 I don't know if they're exact, but he's got.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of controversial about Assad in Syria. There's a lot of

Speaker 1 controversy

Speaker 1 about

Speaker 1 what actually happened and why we were backing the rebels.

Speaker 1 We essentially backed ISIS, which is crazy. We backed al-Qaeda, which is just nuts.

Speaker 2 But he was more dangerous in Syria.

Speaker 2 the rebel according well also according to Israel because Israel weakened Iran's military after they were attacked by Iran who was supplying

Speaker 1 Assad with weapons you know what's really fucked before Iran became a religious state

Speaker 1 women were like wearing mini skirts it was hot that it was like there was freedom everywhere people were like chilling it seemed almost like in like Europe probably like a like a resort, vacation.

Speaker 2 Like they were beautiful.

Speaker 1 Oh, they were gorgeous women. Iran, that Persian women have incredible genes.
It's like you look at these photos from, like, see if you can find some photos of Iran, like early 1970s.

Speaker 1 I was seeing some things on it this morning, actually, on the way over here, or before I left my house. I was seeing this.

Speaker 1 It's so hard to imagine that a place that

Speaker 1 had a democratically elected leader, you know, was,

Speaker 1 you know, it was

Speaker 1 kind of almost European. And then now,

Speaker 1 now it's just a full religious state. And anybody, anybody who protests against the government gets assassinated.

Speaker 1 Like, they assassinated an Olympic gold medalist wrestler because he was perceived to be protesting. I don't even know if he actually protested.
It was like some things that you post online.

Speaker 1 Like, if women take off their headscarves, they can get killed. But why? I don't get it.
It's crazy that a country can fall like that.

Speaker 2 I don't get where

Speaker 2 gays or women or whatever are backing. They're basically backing Hamas.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't get

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Because they just do the new thing. What's the new thing? Is it climate change? Why am I yelling? Climate change? Okay, climate change.
Is it just Black Lives Matter? Okay, Black Lives Matter.

Speaker 1 It's all it is. There's a lot of people out there that are just retarded.
And those are the people that you see getting bust into these rallies.

Speaker 1 And there's just a lot of dopes that you could get to agree with almost anything. And there's gay people for Hamas, believe it or not, trans people for Hamas.
It's fucking

Speaker 2 blacks for the Klan.

Speaker 1 It's hard to do. I don't tell how many of them are real because there's a few people that troll online and they'll pretend

Speaker 1 I'm a trans woman, but I'm also a Muslim.

Speaker 1 They will throw you off a fucking roof.

Speaker 2 No, there's none left.

Speaker 1 There's no roofs left. There's a couple high points.
It's just hard to get to them.

Speaker 2 obviously as a comic, I believe in a First Amendment. I say shit that you can't cancel me.

Speaker 1 Anyhow,

Speaker 2 I believe, and maybe I'm wrong and maybe you disagree. I want to see your opinion.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Okay, after this.
Iran for the 1970s. Look, girls in mini skirts looking hot.

Speaker 2 They look, that looks like.

Speaker 1 Europe. Look at this.
Girl sitting in front of a car.

Speaker 1 Cute little outfit.

Speaker 2 She'd be fucking killed doing that now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Look at the beaches in Iran in the 1970s.
Isn't that fucking crazy? No litter.

Speaker 2 Look at these. God.
Look at the tits on that one. Hot.

Speaker 1 One lady, though, that was the future. The future is in the lower right corner.
Oh. Covered up like Yoda.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's what happened to that place. Like, look at these people all hanging out, being free.
1979 is when it all went to shit. And they call it the revolution, but

Speaker 1 I think it was U.S.-backed, son.

Speaker 2 Okay, what's your opinion? It's my opinion.

Speaker 2 Free speech, protest all you want at colleges, protests wherever,

Speaker 2 but take off the masks.

Speaker 1 I don't need to take off the masks, period. I don't believe in a society where people walk around with their faces covered.
I think there's it's too dangerous.

Speaker 1 It's a public safety issue. It's too hard to identify criminals.
It's too hard to identify someone who commits a crime.

Speaker 2 During the Vietnam protests, there was never a mask. Those people were proud to protest against the Vietnam War.

Speaker 1 But there also wasn't facial recognition software and cameras in the sky. It's like, you know, there's a lot of emotions.

Speaker 2 It's true. But now

Speaker 2 they're hiding and they're committing, to me,

Speaker 2 some crimes on campus. I think.

Speaker 1 Well, they're certainly doing a lot of things they shouldn't be allowed to do, like disrupting classes and screaming at professors. Yes,

Speaker 1 it's organized.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's organized. And people join in because they just join.
They want to be a part of the city. And

Speaker 2 there's a lot of people in this world. There's leaders and there's followers.
And there's a lot of followers.

Speaker 1 More followers.

Speaker 2 Than leaders in the world.

Speaker 2 So we'll get off of this because I know it kind of, you know, but I just want to.

Speaker 2 No, I have other things in there. I have

Speaker 2 other good points in there.

Speaker 1 It is a good point, though, but it's like when you have people that are bitter enemies like this, like these kind of conflicts take thousands of years to work through.

Speaker 1 And in the case of Israel, it's still

Speaker 1 thousands of years old.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 look, how are they going to

Speaker 2 win anything through the UN when there's 22, 23 Arab countries in the UN and Israel? So everything is going to be voted against

Speaker 2 Israel. They're 22, 23 fucking Arab countries.

Speaker 2 Like I said,

Speaker 2 I can't solve or whatever.

Speaker 1 Is it

Speaker 2 unfair? Is it whatever?

Speaker 2 My concern is what's going on in this country. That's my main concern.
My daughter's going to college. I don't want her to go to a college where she feels scared to go to class,

Speaker 2 where she feels threatened just to be who she is.

Speaker 1 Tell her to go to college in Texas.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. That's what she wants.
I want her to go to.

Speaker 1 They have sealed carry on college campuses here.

Speaker 1 This is a different place.

Speaker 2 It's a different time.

Speaker 1 This is what America is supposed to be in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 It's supposed to be a lot more free,

Speaker 1 less laws.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of laws here that are kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 The abortion thing, the six-week thing.

Speaker 1 Most women don't even know they're pregnant that quickly.

Speaker 2 I think if a woman. If a woman? If a lady a woman okay okay I told you I walked out in 11th grade if a lady I think does all her chores I think I think once a week she should be able to wear slacks I

Speaker 2 abortion to me

Speaker 2 I've never it's not really I think a man and me I could be wrong if you're married or you live with your spouse the male might have what 20 25 percent of the decision maybe 30.

Speaker 2 But some single guy probably never had a girlfriend, never lived with a girl. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 You know what? You just want to be part of something.

Speaker 1 Well, people love controlling people, though. They really do.
Which is why, you know, those climate protests drove me fucking crazy where they would protest for climate change by blocking the highway.

Speaker 1 Those fucking idiots. All they want to do is control people.
That's what they want to do.

Speaker 2 You're not changing anyone's mind.

Speaker 1 No, not at all. Holding a flag in the middle of the highway.
You're just pissing people off, but you're controlling people by stopping traffic, and that's what people like to do.

Speaker 1 They like to control people.

Speaker 2 And they don't know if somebody's giving birth or somebody has to get to the hospital or for anything.

Speaker 2 It's all self-centered.

Speaker 2 Fucking, I'm more important than you. Yes.

Speaker 1 My, you know,

Speaker 2 throwing paint on somebody with a fur, they should turn around and fucking beat the daylights out of them.

Speaker 2 Or these fucking climate people walking into the Reich Museum or the Van Gogh and throwing paint on a fucking

Speaker 2 shit.

Speaker 1 Or gluing yourself to the wall. Yeah, what the.

Speaker 1 Crazy. And then again, you see what they did at the Porsche dealership?

Speaker 1 They glued themselves to the floor. In the Porsche dealership, they just shut the lights off and left them in there.
Oh, really? Yeah, fuck you. They came back the next day.

Speaker 1 They glued their hands to the floor. Like, that they're going to stop everything.
And they were like, okay, good. We'll just shut the doors.
Porsche doors.

Speaker 1 Shut the doors, leave them in there to shit themselves. Good.

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Speaker 2 Porsches are nice cars.

Speaker 1 Why would they attack Porsches? They're only doing it because they know it'll get attention. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 It's a bunch, usually a bunch of very privileged, rich kids, white kids, that come from a family that has a lot of wealth and to rebel against their parents or probably fucking investment bankers or something.

Speaker 1 They decide they're going to fight climate change, man.

Speaker 1 And they don't even understand what they're fighting. They don't understand the science.
They don't. It's complex.
It's multi-layered and nuanced.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of propaganda that's attached to what they call the green agenda. Because the green agenda, like all things that are big and public, is profitable.

Speaker 1 They have a bunch of companies that if they can get these laws pushed forward, they can have industries that emerge and their industry can benefit from all these laws. And so they'll fund protests.

Speaker 1 They'll get people to do things. But it's all 4D chess.
There's all these multiple layers of things happening.

Speaker 1 And then there's the inconvenient actual climate data that the Washington Post printed that show that over the last 50 million years, we're in a decline. The Earth is in a cooling period.

Speaker 1 And the Earth's never, like, you probably know this, but for people who don't, there's never been a static temperature on Earth. It's always gone up and down wildly.
It's unpredictable. It has

Speaker 1 multiple factors.

Speaker 1 Carbon is probably one of them, but it's not the big one. It's not all of it.
There's solar activity that you can't control at all. Solar flares happen, and some of them happen.

Speaker 1 They've happened in the early 1800s. They blew out all the fucking Morse code systems.

Speaker 1 There was a big solar flare in the 1800s that

Speaker 1 see if you can find that. But there's they could blow out the power grid easy, kill all the satellites easy.

Speaker 1 What carbon is, is food for plants. It's the dumbest fucking thing to protest against.
Pollution is a giant issue. Yeah, do we have an impact on the weather? I'm sure we do.

Speaker 1 We have an impact on fucking everything. But CO2, net zero, all this shit, this is nonsense.

Speaker 1 Carrington event, most intense geomagnetic storm recorded history peaking on 1 to 2 September 1859 during a

Speaker 1 solar cycle 10 created strong auroral displays that were important

Speaker 1 reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations.

Speaker 1 The geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere. So if we have some of those in the future, It could do anything.

Speaker 1 Let's see, a geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid.

Speaker 1 We've got real problems, real problems, and you're not going to solve it with electric cars. You're just not.
You're not going to solve it with windmills.

Speaker 2 No, look, if you drive

Speaker 2 up the Jersey Turnpike or anywhere, and the factories and the lights and all the smoke and all that shit, just everything,

Speaker 2 all right,

Speaker 2 me turning off my light bulb is not going to make a fucking difference compared.

Speaker 1 Particularly when you look at the emissions that come from China.

Speaker 1 China is an enormous, enormous contributor to carbon emissions. And not just carbon emissions, but pollutants, particulates.
They're not stopping.

Speaker 1 They built 200 new coal plants. You know, they're not going to stop.
No matter what we do, they're going to do what's best for China financially, period. End of discussion.

Speaker 1 All these conversations that they're having about net zero. Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 You're not going to stop that.

Speaker 2 Okay. And this is what

Speaker 2 they're looking out for their best interests. That's what they're doing.
Just like every other fucking country is basically doing, is

Speaker 2 survival. And that's my point with Israel.
They're looking out for

Speaker 2 what's going to keep us from being extinguished off this fucking planet. Right.
And

Speaker 2 whatever it takes. That's what the Jews, and I'm getting back on this because you lost me on all that shit.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 what the Jews need is a Malcolm X of Jews.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 Look, Malcolm X was great.

Speaker 2 He didn't say

Speaker 2 hate. He didn't say go after the white man.
He said do what we have to do.

Speaker 1 Why don't you do that? Why don't you be the Malcolm X for the Jews? Maybe that's your calling. My vocabulary.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? There's no way to...

Speaker 1 Tighten that up a little bit.

Speaker 2 I could a little, a little with Bonnie's help. I fired my manager two weeks ago and and I had her write it out for me because I knew I would have said something fucked up or mean.
That's smart.

Speaker 2 You know, and another thing, I go, hey, listen, you know,

Speaker 2 seven years,

Speaker 2 it's time to move on. And I hope we could still be friends.
And he went, definitely. Not like, are you sure maybe we could work this out? It's like when you fucking leave a girl, she was like, great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, whoa,

Speaker 2 come on. I added something to fight for me.
Nope, so nope. So, yeah, I would love to speak in colleges

Speaker 2 or maybe that's right.

Speaker 1 Let it cool down. Let it cool down.

Speaker 1 Give it a year or something. Give it a year.

Speaker 2 I probably wouldn't be able to get to the auditorium.

Speaker 1 Trump said the wildest shit about Gaza. We're going to turn into the Mediterranean of the Middle East.

Speaker 1 What? We're going to take it.

Speaker 2 But he keeps saying, and I don't follow,

Speaker 2 you know, if you don't release the hostages, there's hell to pay. Well, what has hell,

Speaker 2 what has he done

Speaker 2 to help release the hostages? I mean, now they're being attacked by fucking Yemen.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Release the fucking hostages, and then maybe things will be left.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 What is it, 70 or 50? I don't know, because they keep dropping, you know, four hostages for a thousand prisoners or whatever. You know, I mean,

Speaker 2 whatever. It's a trade-off, how many prisoners they got to give them for a hostage.
And, you know, these, this would have never went on in this country.

Speaker 2 We would not have put up for, I mean, we did with Carter with

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 1 200 million hostages. Yeah, 200.

Speaker 2 They were there for, what,

Speaker 1 two years or something? Well, they kept them there until Reagan was in office. Yeah.
They kept him there until after the election.

Speaker 1 That was part of the deal.

Speaker 1 Part of the deal was you'll release these folks after Reagan takes over so that Carter can't get credit for it. Yeah.
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah. That was written.

Speaker 1 That was hard. Imagine

Speaker 1 you're in there and you're like, Jesus Christ, I've got to be in here for four more months.

Speaker 1 So this guy gets credit? It's just fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 Well, did you hear? I didn't see it. I only read what

Speaker 2 these reporters and journalists, what she said on 60 Minutes. Do you think the hostages didn't feed you because they ran out of food?

Speaker 1 Oh, that Hamas didn't feed the hostages?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Leslie Stalks said that in an interview.

Speaker 1 Did she really say that?

Speaker 2 In an interview, look it up. She said that to one of the hostages.
Do you think they didn't,

Speaker 2 and don't quote me because this is what I read. I don't want to get sued by Leslie, whoever.

Speaker 2 But I think she said what I read, do you think

Speaker 2 the captures didn't feed you because they

Speaker 1 ran out of food? That's a crazy thing to say to someone who was a hostage.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, she's crazy. On fucking 60 minutes, a journal.
How do you say something something like that?

Speaker 1 That's a crazy thing to say. But they're bad.

Speaker 1 The problem with these 60 Minutes journalists is the same problem with what they did with the Kamala Harris interview, where they took a bumbling answer and edited it out and put an answer to she gave to something else in its place to make it look like she gave succinct, clear-cut answers.

Speaker 1 That's not really journalism.

Speaker 1 No. They're not doing journalism.
That's not a question you say to a hostage.

Speaker 1 When you're talking to a hostage, you want to find out what the experience was like in as

Speaker 1 compassionate a way as you can to talk to this person who's been through hell. You don't ask them, Do you ever think that maybe they didn't feed you because they didn't have any food themselves?

Speaker 1 Well, here you go. Look at what their face looks like, and look at the sunken in faces of the starving-to-death hostages.
And well, obviously,

Speaker 1 they didn't give them any food. So, shut up

Speaker 2 you can't

Speaker 2 watch the news. You can't because you're going to go.

Speaker 1 It's not news anymore.

Speaker 2 No, it's not. It's clickbait and it's fucking.

Speaker 1 It's a business. And it's a shitty business.
It's not good at doing what it does. And it's all bought and paid for by pharmaceutical drug ads.
And it's just not the news. It's not.

Speaker 1 You get some information that you can learn, but it's not like the unbiased, this is what happened. This is what caused it.
This is what's being done now. It's not that.
It's like halfway there.

Speaker 1 They're kind of almost activists.

Speaker 2 I had an argument with somebody close to me because I go on Gutfeld. I try to go on once a month, like I said,

Speaker 2 and she says,

Speaker 1 oh, oh,

Speaker 2 you're pro-Trump. I go, I'm not pro-anything or anti-anything.

Speaker 2 I go, I go on, where else is a comic going to sit for an hour, try to be funny?

Speaker 1 On TV?

Speaker 2 Yeah, on TV. For an hour.
There's not much left. There's not.
And it's definitely not going to be on the left because they're not going to let me say the things that I get away on the Guttfeld show.

Speaker 2 And it's a great show. I mean,

Speaker 2 if you say something funny, they laugh. It's, to me, the closest to tough crowd.
Right. To me.

Speaker 1 I see what you're saying. Not quite, but I know.

Speaker 2 Not quite, but it's, I mean, it's fun.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it gets

Speaker 2 whatever views. And I said to this person, you work with the pharmaceutical companies for 30 years, and you're going to tell them.

Speaker 1 Did they yeah and you're going to go on your high horse about me doing a show that's going to help my career and build numbers and well it's not the same no it's worse it's way worse it's worse it's way worse pharmaceutical drug companies are responsible for who knows how many deaths and injuries yeah yeah they do good too absolutely some pharmaceutical drugs are great but you can't be on your high horse you work for them that's crazy in any other business they'd be in jail they would be fucking jail.

Speaker 1 And you lied about what your product does and it kills a bunch of people. You're in jail.

Speaker 2 Can we talk about one of the reasons I'm here? I don't know if you remember this.

Speaker 1 I hope you do.

Speaker 2 I had this torn rotator cuff.

Speaker 2 And you said, come down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to get you some stem cells.

Speaker 2 Now, what's the BPC?

Speaker 1 BPC 157?

Speaker 2 Is that better?

Speaker 2 Which is better for the stem cells or the BPC?

Speaker 1 There's no one better. They're all very good.
BPC 157 is called Body Protection Compound 157. It's a peptide that helps heal soft tissue damage.
So do stem cells. All these different things are good.

Speaker 2 Because I'm not getting my shoulders operated on. It's like a six-month.

Speaker 2 And it doesn't always work.

Speaker 1 So what exactly is wrong with your shoulder?

Speaker 2 Well, this is a torn rotator cuff right here.

Speaker 2 I even brought the disc, the x-ray.

Speaker 1 Oh, great. Did you do any exercises for it? Did you do any rehabs for it?

Speaker 2 Not yet, because I was waiting to do this to see where this took me and how I would go from there.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Exercises are always good, like bands, like band work, where you do these kind of things.

Speaker 1 You keep a towel pressed to your body so you hold it in place and do these rotations with bands.

Speaker 1 All those things are good just to keep everything strong anyway.

Speaker 1 Do you do any of that stuff?

Speaker 2 Not those yet.

Speaker 2 I tried doing that.

Speaker 1 You ever hang from a chin-up bar?

Speaker 2 You ever do this? No, for a torn rotator?

Speaker 1 Yeah, just to strengthen and the release of pressure in your shoulders.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? No, I couldn't. It's good for shoulder health in general to hang from a chin-up bar.

Speaker 1 And if you can't hang, what you do is like get on a box or something that brings you to the height of the bar and just hang a little. Just get some weight on it until you can hang fully.

Speaker 2 I mean, look, I could

Speaker 2 still play golf. I could swing like this.
That's good.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's totally fucked. Okay.

Speaker 1 So when I went to the doctor, there's a lot of things you can do, rehabilitation things you can do that will help you.

Speaker 2 Here's the only thing, and I could be wrong, you'll know. When they said, you know,

Speaker 2 rehab to build up the muscle, but I'm 67. How much more muscle am I building up?

Speaker 1 If you're 167, you can build muscle. That's a silly way to look at it.
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Okay. 100%, if you're alive,

Speaker 1 that means your body's recovering. Yeah.
So that means your body's generating tissue. That means you can build muscle.
Okay, if you can go play golf, you can build muscle.

Speaker 1 100%. If you're 80 fucking years old and a woman, you can build muscle.

Speaker 2 I mean, I work out still. I just certain exercises I can't do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just you need to do exercises that rehabilitate your shoulder. Yeah.
You can't just expect it to get better on its own.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to put it through some work to strengthen the muscles around it.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm going to, like I said, after I do this.

Speaker 1 When are you leaving? When are you flying out?

Speaker 2 Wednesday. Okay, great.

Speaker 1 So we'll get you in tomorrow morning. No worries.
Cool. Get you into Waste Well, and we'll set it up.

Speaker 2 Did I bring the show to a dead halt with my map? No,

Speaker 2 I thought it was a good conversation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's good. It's a good map.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 I got more stuff. I didn't want to match.

Speaker 2 Listen, I printed out a bunch of stuff. I don't want to go back and have my fucking dumb jewel friends going, hey, you didn't bring anything.

Speaker 1 Is that what they do?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Stop talking to them.

Speaker 2 Then, then my wife, don't say anything stupid. Is that what she said?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 she goes.

Speaker 1 sorry, Bonnie.

Speaker 2 You know, be funny. That's what you are.

Speaker 2 I was pretty funny. I gotta say, listen, I'm a good interview.

Speaker 1 You're fine.

Speaker 2 You're doing fine.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 The best, not your best, what a great show would be? What? Me, Colin, and Norton in here.

Speaker 1 Oh, that'd be phenomenal. That'd be phenomenal.
Just like tough crowd.

Speaker 1 You probably couldn't do it today unless you did it on the internet, but you could still do it it on the internet. Like, Colin should really bring it back.

Speaker 1 I know, there's plenty of guys that could still do it. Like, Norton would be fucking phenomenal at it.

Speaker 2 We just did Norton's podcast, Me, Colin, and Norton, whatever podcast. He's got 12 of them, him.

Speaker 2 And it was one of the most funniest things when it comes out you'll ever hear. Us three together, it's like it's like you get back in the old groove again.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because we're just there to have

Speaker 2 fun. Yeah, we're there to have fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tough crowd and opium Anthony were huge for comedy. Huge.
Dick. Because Opie and Anthony, one of the things that they did that was brilliant is they just let us just go wild, just be ourselves.

Speaker 1 They didn't really try to control it at all.

Speaker 1 You know, Anthony would jump in with some funny shit, but the whole show was like, bring out a bunch of comics, have them talk a bunch of shit, give them the reins.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I was in there one day. Anthony was eating a piece of cake.
I walked by him and smacked it out of his hand.

Speaker 2 He laughed as hard as anybody on the planet because

Speaker 2 the times we had in there, I was on there

Speaker 2 with.

Speaker 1 Were you with me when they brought in Marion Berry? Were you? No. You weren't there?

Speaker 2 You weren't there? Marion Berry? Marion Berry, the fucking,

Speaker 2 the mayor.

Speaker 1 The mayor of Washington, D.C. They got arrested for smoking crack.

Speaker 2 No, you were in there with him?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, that had to be. We grabbed him.

Speaker 1 him. We grabbed him.
I thought you were in there. Norton was in there for sure.
He was next door doing something and doing another interview. And he was in the hallway.

Speaker 1 And I think Opie said, Marion Berry's in the hallway right now. I'm like, let's go get him.
And we got him. We brought him in.
And I started asking him about crack.

Speaker 1 He's like, well, nobody knows what was in that pipe. I'm like, well, you know.
You know. You fucking know.
What are you smoking that wasn't crack? That's almost crazy.

Speaker 2 You know, oh, really, you smoke tobacco out of a glass pipe?

Speaker 1 One of my favorites is when he was running for re-election, which he eventually won after he got out of jail.

Speaker 1 They asked these people, do you have a problem with the fact that the mayor used to smoke crack? They interviewed this guy on this tree. He goes, oh, everybody smoke a little crack every now and then.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, this conversation's over. This conversation's over.

Speaker 2 I remember the times, and I was in there one time.

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Speaker 2 Pete Rose, Bobby Kelly, Ricky Gervais,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 And fucking Pete Rose called me. He goes, you look like some

Speaker 2 rat faced soccer player. Whatever he said, it was very funny.
Whatever Pete Rose said was very fucking funny. So I walk over to Bobby,

Speaker 2 then I walk past Bobby, and I walk past Pete Rose, and I sit down, and Pete Rose says, Why are you out of breath? I go, because I had to walk around you two,

Speaker 1 fat fucks, right?

Speaker 2 And so they found out, but you could say anything you wanted on that show. Yeah.
And it didn't, it,

Speaker 1 yeah, because I never went on it until it went to XM. You know, I was never on it when they were on terrestrial radio.
When they got kicked off terrestrial radio, and then they got on XM.

Speaker 1 And when they were on XM, it was wild.

Speaker 1 It was like the first time. It's like there was Howard when Howard got on XM or Sirius, I guess, first.
Before they merged. And then the ONA show was on XM.
Like, this is fucking this is crazy.

Speaker 1 This was like what rate. This is is basically green room talk.
Greenroom talk for the whole world.

Speaker 2 Well, okay, so I brought Patrice into OA. Did you really? Yeah, I brought him in.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 He fucking smashed me the day I walked him in. Because we went through the back, we went through this way.
Now he goes, what do you think? This is good, fellas. You walked me through the back.

Speaker 2 You couldn't take me through the front door.

Speaker 2 So he became a fixture on.

Speaker 2 So one day we're in fucking OA, and I'm driving this little Porsche boxer. He's driving this big escalade because he's a fucking buffet molester and he's in this.

Speaker 2 So he's saying he's trash on one of my Rolexes going, you're a fucking selfish douchebag driving a Porsche to me going, yeah, so you can't have people, you know, and I'm not thinking, well, maybe if you didn't eat fucking pound cake or whatever, you wouldn't eat a big S.

Speaker 2 But he's beaten me down bad. I mean, fucking killing me.

Speaker 1 I'm speechless, right?

Speaker 2 Speechless. He's fucking just pounding me.
And I walk out of there.

Speaker 2 So the next day or two days later, I go online and he's trashing my car. I look at the price of my car, new, and the price of his car.
And I send it to him.

Speaker 2 I go, look, my shitty car costs more than your car, new.

Speaker 2 And he calls me, he goes,

Speaker 2 You're still thinking about this?

Speaker 1 He goes, really? You're thinking thinking about it right now.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Still, to this day, you're arguing with him. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I should have.

Speaker 2 I would drive him home. One night I was driving him back to Jersey City.

Speaker 2 And I got to go to the bathroom. And we were walking up to his house.
And he says, oh, man, I don't have a manager, an agent.

Speaker 2 Nothing's going on. I go, I can't get work.

Speaker 2 I don't have an agent either, nothing. And we just both started cracking up and walking.
It was the funniest thing.

Speaker 1 Fucking,

Speaker 2 we were reading for the head of a sitcom for ABC, me and Patrice. We were going to be the leads of this sitcom.

Speaker 2 So we go into the head of casting at Marcy Phillips.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he doesn't want to be there, and I can't act. So basically, I'm I'm not a good

Speaker 2 at the time.

Speaker 2 So he won't take his face out of the fucking copy.

Speaker 2 And I'm trying to read with him the scene and he won't look at me. And Marcy Phillips is yelling at me, going, what are you doing? I go, this fucking guy won't connect with me.

Speaker 2 How can I act with somebody that won't look at me? And she goes, can you two please leave?

Speaker 1 We laughed all the way down the hallway.

Speaker 2 We laughed. We just got kicked out of an audition as the leads of sitcom and we just cracked up all the way.
Because it just, to us, was the funniest

Speaker 2 being funny in the moment.

Speaker 1 The idea of you getting a sitcom was so unlikely. It was always all so unlikely that when it failed, like if you want an audition and it fucked up, you're like, eh,

Speaker 1 it wasn't going to happen anyway. You never thought this is going to be it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, never once. No.
Never. Never.

Speaker 2 I walked out of an audition once. I just got back from Aspen.
I had a a lot of heat in Aspen, but this is when my anxiety,

Speaker 2 I've had anxiety my whole life. 21,

Speaker 2 I was hospitalized for anxiety when I was 20, and they didn't know what it was. They thought you were just nuts and gave you Thorzine and Haldahl, and you shuffled around like a crazy man.

Speaker 1 This is.

Speaker 1 So explain to me what it feels like. What is this anxiety? Like that you would feel.
Now, when I had it,

Speaker 2 when I had a bad answer,

Speaker 2 I felt so disconnected

Speaker 2 that even when I talked, it felt like an echo almost. Like I was outside of myself.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Like if I look in the mirror, I'm going, who am I looking at? It was just so,

Speaker 2 so disconnected.

Speaker 1 And you were 21?

Speaker 2 Yeah, 21. Wow.
Smoking pot and stuff. Oh, well, that's it.
Well, some of it was probably where am I going in life? What am I doing?

Speaker 1 And you're getting high. And I'm getting high.
Which is like, ooh.

Speaker 1 Because you're freaking out and you get high.

Speaker 1 Do you have to pee right now?

Speaker 2 No, why do you?

Speaker 1 Because you said you have to go to the bathroom. You were talking about your story then, okay?

Speaker 1 Because I was like preparing to cut it off and let you go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, this is the best day of life. Okay, I uh, except for the fucking map.

Speaker 1 He brings out the map. The map turned out great.

Speaker 2 It turned out a good little conversation. I got, you know,

Speaker 1 I had to talk a fucking list.

Speaker 2 Thank God it's Monday.

Speaker 2 Thursday, the Thursday ones are so much better. I'm Monday.
So

Speaker 2 my anxiety,

Speaker 2 wait, what was what did it feel like?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was the, like, when you say it overwhelmed you to the point you had to go to the hospital? Was it beating?

Speaker 2 I was just, I didn't know what was going on. It turned into panic or whatever.
Right. Like, I was so fucked up.

Speaker 2 My friends, you know, I was going,

Speaker 2 I was selling meat and seafood out of a car, out of a truck, some businesses back then. I went to this therapist.
I go, help me. I'll give you some free steaks and seafood.

Speaker 2 And I was just out of my fucking mind. And I get anxiety talking about it.
It really gives you a little anxiety. So my friends go, let's take him to Florida.
He needs a vacation. We drove to Florida.

Speaker 2 I was there for a day. I said, I got to get the fuck out of here.
Take me home. And we drove there and drove back.
Then I checked into the hospital.

Speaker 2 the fifth floor, basically, for fucking

Speaker 1 cuckoos.

Speaker 2 Because they really didn't know what anxiety was back then.

Speaker 2 Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 Because that's not that long ago in human history.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, it was 40-something years ago.

Speaker 1 But they feel nuts just like in the last 40 years, how much they've learned.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, but also, too, it's easier to say that person's nuts. Give him

Speaker 2 Thorazine, Halda, whatever antipsychotic drugs are.

Speaker 2 And I swear to God,

Speaker 2 you know, my day was.

Speaker 2 And then I would

Speaker 2 shuffle.

Speaker 2 I would shuffle around

Speaker 1 the floor with this girl.

Speaker 2 I mean, this one girl, we shuffled. My friends came up to see me, and I'm like, I can't see you today.

Speaker 1 We're going for a walk.

Speaker 2 You know, I was like, one flew with a cuckoo. I was fucking out of my mind.
So.

Speaker 1 That could have been you for the rest of your life. Oh,

Speaker 2 Jesus. So, I know.
Well,

Speaker 2 because I did do acid in my day, and people sometimes do that shit and never come back.

Speaker 1 Never come back and I saw that on Dragnet so uh that's in real life yeah it is real stearns talked about that he did a big dose of acid once and he was fucked up for a long time it'll fuck you up there's a guy from Pink Floyd that disappeared oh I hope it's fucking Roger Warner

Speaker 1 how dare you how dare I how dare you

Speaker 1 what's his name again

Speaker 1 shine on you crazy diamond oh you mean he did acid injuries yeah it's not just one person there's been a lot of people that had an acid trip and just never

Speaker 2 came back. My brother did it when we were doing it.
He was real young. He was having a bad trip.
And I had to babysit him the whole day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's fucking scary.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it. David Gilmore.

Speaker 1 Written by David Gilmore, but it's not, it's about, who was it about? Sid Barrett, that's right. Sid Barrett did acid.
went crazy. See, right there.

Speaker 1 Departed from the band in 1968 after dealing with the mental health problems and substance abuse. The story is, he never came back.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 That drug is so uncontrollable.

Speaker 1 Well, also,

Speaker 1 what's the dose? An effective dose is a droplet on your tongue, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 Well, we were doing blotter or window pane, four-way window pane.

Speaker 1 Who's making that? They're not making it in the same labs where they're making Tylenol. They make it in some fucking corporate

Speaker 1 basement.

Speaker 2 Oh, too much goes into that drop.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I got out of the hospital and for

Speaker 2 years,

Speaker 1 I don't know however long it took, it passed.

Speaker 2 Life started getting better, whatever.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Then,

Speaker 2 and I would get anxiety, it would come and go. But back then, I didn't know what it was, it turned into panic.

Speaker 2 So then when I was 40,

Speaker 2 I would watch my kids. After I got divorced, I I would have my kids every day.
I would work nights and I watched my,

Speaker 2 I guess, four and six-year-old.

Speaker 2 My wife would either drop them off or I would pick them up, then drop them off. I would have them in the days.
My day was my kids, whatever.

Speaker 2 Go to the park, do this, do that, just watch my kids.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 then

Speaker 2 they went off to school full-time, you know,

Speaker 2 nursery,

Speaker 2 first-grade.

Speaker 2 So now I'm at 40 years old,

Speaker 2 living in some fucking third-floor apartment, divorced from my first wife,

Speaker 2 bouncing off of fucking walls again.

Speaker 1 I mean, fucking 40 years old.

Speaker 2 No, just, I'm, I'm going, I got to quit comedy. I got to go into the psych ward.
I'm fucked up. This is fucked up.
So I found this therapist who was also, and I was already sober.

Speaker 2 I found this therapist that was in recovery, and he basically brought me back,

Speaker 2 you know, some medication through his partner, who was a psychiatrist. He was a therapist.
Great. I could talk.
I could say anything to him,

Speaker 2 whatever, you know.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 then it just got better. And then I realized and worked

Speaker 2 knowing

Speaker 2 whatever anxiety I feel, it'll pass. Nothing lasts forever.
It'll pass. Like I had a little anxiety for the last week thinking about this.
I go, what, you know,

Speaker 2 a little bit because, and we're friends and I've done podcasts and what Bonnie goes, shut up and be funny, be whatever.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 a million things went through my fucking head. Because, I mean, shit, you've had fucking Trump on, Elon Musk, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And that's my low self-esteem because, of course, I should be doing everything in my mind. Do you see what I'm saying? Does that make sense? But

Speaker 2 even when I did Tough Crowd, I was on 30 times. Every episode, I had anxiety till it started.
Every special or everything I've ever done, anxiety for the first second. I walk out, boom, gone.

Speaker 2 All right. It's just...

Speaker 1 Well, that's because you care. I mean, what you're calling anxiety is just nerves.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're doing something that's difficult or something that's important to you, you're going to have nerves. That's normal.

Speaker 2 It's healthy.

Speaker 1 That shows you're challenging yourself, which is

Speaker 1 one of the most important things you can do in life to stay vibrant.

Speaker 1 You have to challenge yourself.

Speaker 2 When I did the Trump, when we roasted Trump,

Speaker 2 this was a fryer's roast, right?

Speaker 2 It's when they broke away from Commie Central, right? They broke away.

Speaker 2 So it's at Hilton in New York, 2,000 people.

Speaker 2 Anybody that meant anything in New York, from club owners, agents, managers, celebrities, they were all there.

Speaker 2 So the first act goes up, this guy, Stewie Stone, old-time Catskill Com.

Speaker 2 He kills like no one I've ever seen kill on a roast. Fuck you, Trump, fuck your casinos, fuck you, fuck.

Speaker 2 Just fucking slaughtered. Right? And I'm sitting on the desk.
I'm sitting next to Isaac Hayes.

Speaker 2 Opie and Anthony are there. My father, his wife, Bonnie, before I married her.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 he, I go,

Speaker 2 I'm going to end my career.

Speaker 1 I go, I'm going to end my career here.

Speaker 2 Okay. Then Susie Esmond goes up.

Speaker 2 Slaughters.

Speaker 2 Slaughters. I guess Amaros wrote her some funny jokes,

Speaker 2 and she's great at Rose.

Speaker 2 And I was ready to sneak off to fucking just leave. I go, it might be better if I leave than go up.

Speaker 2 Well, then Belzer went up.

Speaker 1 So. Took a little wind out of the room.

Speaker 2 Took a little, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 Regis Fillman was the host.

Speaker 2 It was three weeks after Ronnie Dangerfield died. Three weeks.

Speaker 2 They introduced me. I go, big hand for Regis.

Speaker 2 Originally, they asked Ronnie to host, but he said he'd rather be dead than three,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 Zero.

Speaker 2 Almost zero.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Right? But I got him. I go, don't fuck with me.
I'll bring Belzer back.

Speaker 2 And then Al Sharpton was sitting on the dais. I can't believe I said this, but back then it was okay.

Speaker 2 He wasn't roasting, but he was on the dais.

Speaker 2 And it's when he was running for president. And I said, the only way you'll get on the White House property is with a lantern in your hand.
I said to him, so fuck him. I didn't care.

Speaker 2 And then I got him back.

Speaker 2 Three of the jokes that I said

Speaker 2 were the ones that were printed

Speaker 2 in the newspapers. You know, the one I did, I go, Trump, the reason Trump puts his names on his buildings is so the banks know which ones to take back.
And that was 20 years ago.

Speaker 2 But it was the most terrifying moment. One that next to doing Def Jam as the first white guy was one of the most terrifying moments in my, I mean, I'm going, I'm going to end my career.
But Def Jam,

Speaker 2 you know, Def Jam was on for five years. The number one show in HBO.

Speaker 2 I go, okay, we're going to use a white guy. It's me.

Speaker 2 Right? So now I got white comics. You better be funny.

Speaker 1 I have black comics. White comics are saying that to you? You don't represent us? Yeah.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which ones?

Speaker 2 I want to know.

Speaker 2 20 years ago. The white comics that were doing black rooms back then.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Then it was black comics mad that I'm doing it, and they're not. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So they're taping in New York every five nights. This is funny.
Five nights.

Speaker 1 Was that when they were filming in Harlem?

Speaker 2 It was. It could have been.
I don't know. It was in New York five nights at some theater.
Okay. And it was the year I did it the fifth year when they had a different guest host every night.

Speaker 2 Like Martin Lawrence was in One Night, One Show, Chris Rock, Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, and

Speaker 2 Steve,

Speaker 2 what's his name? Harvey was my host. You know.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I'm going every night. I mean, I went one night, and this is so funny.
Like,

Speaker 2 Guy Torrey would come out and do the warm-up, and he would say, listen, this is not the Apollo. There's no fucking booing here.
This is HBO. We don't boo, right?

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 2 a whole nother level. We don't want to hear any boo.

Speaker 2 So this comic comes out.

Speaker 2 He walks out. And with a black audience, if you're wearing the wrong sneakers, you're in trouble.
Believe me. I used to do a lot of these.
You know, he comes out in like Reebok's.

Speaker 2 He's wearing an all-gold suit.

Speaker 2 And his first joke in New York is,

Speaker 2 I just want to say, I'm not from New York, I'm from Canada, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 2 He's bombing so bad. And when a black audience campoo you,

Speaker 2 all you heard in the room was,

Speaker 2 child,

Speaker 1 it was brutal.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 now they're taped five nights, two shows a night. I'm on the last night,

Speaker 2 second show,

Speaker 2 and I go second to last.

Speaker 2 Now, all the comics that were still in town, that were the celebrity hosts,

Speaker 2 were at the taping.

Speaker 2 I'm going, this is one of the scariest moments of my life. I mean, you know, no white guy, Steve Harvey brings me out.
He goes, whoa, our next act is

Speaker 2 something we haven't seen or special, whatever.

Speaker 2 And Russell made me wear his clothing. I got fat farm on and these baggy pants, you know.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I look back on it, because it was 25 years.

Speaker 2 It would be different.

Speaker 2 I pandered a lot. to some extent.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 I did grow up in that neighborhood, but I'm out like this and all you know right and

Speaker 2 it it worked out luckily but i look back and go i would never do that now from 25 years ago the pandering and and yo you know just just you know talking like i'm from the hood and you know and i had a good set it worked out uh

Speaker 2 but it was the second scariest moment in my career.

Speaker 1 But listen to what you just said. Both scariest moments of your career worked out great.

Speaker 2 Yes, they always, yeah.

Speaker 1 So wouldn't that eventually build some confidence? Oh, I have confidence. Okay.
It doesn't sound like it. Oh, no, I'm just telling you the scary moments.
And listen,

Speaker 2 you always got to question yourself in this business because you want to get better. You want to.

Speaker 2 You just,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I question myself. I go,

Speaker 1 I have,

Speaker 2 not again, not an ego. I have a reputation to live up to

Speaker 2 of the stuff I've done in this business.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I come out and people are going,

Speaker 1 look,

Speaker 2 Bobby and Keith, we're at the cellar one night. I go, I got a spot at the underground.

Speaker 2 They go, we're going to come over and watch you bomb.

Speaker 1 That sounds like Keith. Keith and Bobby, right?

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 2 so Nikki's Nikki lasers on killing killing not the cleanest but funny I don't give a fuck what somebody else she's funny and she was killing

Speaker 2 so I went on

Speaker 2 and my first two jokes

Speaker 2 I had they killed and I go see Bobby see Keith I can follow anybody right right well then I didn't know this they went into the back back corners of the room

Speaker 2 and after every joke, they would go, oh,

Speaker 1 oh.

Speaker 2 And they had the whole audience turn on me going, what's going on? I would say a joke that might have been a little edgy, and they would go, oh,

Speaker 1 real loud.

Speaker 2 And so the whole audience is going, what's this guy doing up there?

Speaker 1 They're groaning.

Speaker 2 One table goes, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 And I'm fucking bombing now because these two fucking Jamooks are in the back of the room going, oh my God.

Speaker 2 It's so fucking funny, Bobby and Keith.

Speaker 1 Well, that was the culture. The culture of comic hooks was like constant busting balls.
Constant busting balls.

Speaker 2 Somebody would go on stage and we would all go downstairs and sit in like the front row and watch.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse you could do for a comedy. Your friends sit in the front row and stare at you.
You're like, what are you doing, man?

Speaker 2 When Kevin Hart was leaving New York to go to fucking L.A., he threw himself a little go-away fucking show at Boston Comedy Club. You remember Boston Comedy Club?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 So he's on stage pontificating, doing whatever. And I don't know why, but me, Keith, and Patrice were in the back of the room.
And there was like 10 phone books back there.

Speaker 2 And he's up, and we started throwing phone books at him. Phone books.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they were just in the club from, I guess they were delivered there, all these phone, and we're throwing phone books at Kevin Hart.

Speaker 2 And he says,

Speaker 2 on interviews, he goes, I knew I was accepted when they were throwing phone books at me.

Speaker 2 I knew I was part of the crew, you know, but we were just heaving phone books at them like fucking three assholes in the back of the woods room, I mean, and we would just,

Speaker 2 it was just fun. It was probably the most fun I've had in comedy

Speaker 2 when we would just stand out, me, Patrice,

Speaker 2 Keith, and Norton, till three and four in the morning in front of Boston, just trashing each other. Just to laugh at

Speaker 2 just,

Speaker 1 you can't

Speaker 2 replicate that. It can't happen again.
It was just so funny. Keith is

Speaker 2 he's fun if you see him around, you know, or Norton or Bobby, but it was so much fun.

Speaker 1 I heard Keith is killing it now. Even with his strokes.

Speaker 2 His special, we were at the tape, and the fact that he didn't win an Emmy,

Speaker 2 it's it was so fucking good, his special.

Speaker 1 He

Speaker 2 painted a picture when he was talking.

Speaker 2 you could see everything he was saying him in the hospital him with a stroke and it was so good we walked I walked out of there going this is the best thing I've ever seen it was so good wow he was so good you know

Speaker 1 I don't know why he didn't I mean it's who gives a fuck about the enemies yeah who you know

Speaker 1 everybody knows how good it was all those fucking award show award shows for art to me are some of the most ridiculous things yeah right really How many fucking albums?

Speaker 2 Oh, I don't even want to say our name, but they don't know. They don't know fucking.
It doesn't matter. You're right.
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 It's just an industry way that they can celebrate each other and then they put on a show and the show generates money and they make a bunch of money from the show.

Speaker 1 And then it becomes a thing they hold over your head. Maybe you can win a Grammy.
Maybe you can win an Emmy. Maybe you can win a this.
You got to be a part of the club.

Speaker 1 Like, look what happened to Chris. He wanted to be a part of that group doing the Oscars and he gets smacked by Will Smith.
They don't arrest him.

Speaker 1 And then 10 minutes later, or whatever it was, Will Smith's on stage receiving the Academy Award and they give him a standing ovation.

Speaker 1 It's fucking insanity.

Speaker 1 That is Hollywood. That shows you what these people are.
To want their love and their respect is pointless.

Speaker 2 It's so true.

Speaker 1 They don't even know what they like. They like what

Speaker 1 everybody tells them to like. They don't understand what their support is.

Speaker 1 It's just a bunch of people wanting to be a part of the group that's the in-group. Like, what what do we have to do? What do I have to say? What do I have to agree with? That's all it is.

Speaker 2 Years ago,

Speaker 2 and it's true, if that was Chappelle, he wouldn't have smacked Chappelle because Chappelle is a little cut, a little bigger.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know. The whole thing was crazy.
Poor guy.

Speaker 1 One move. He does one move.
Now everybody remembers nothing but that forever. But what? Fuck I Am Legend.
Fuck Ali. All those different things he did that were awesome.
Nobody cares anymore.

Speaker 1 He's like, that's the guy that's

Speaker 1 Chris Royal. Every day he's got to wake up in the morning and go, fuck.

Speaker 1 That one thing, fuck.

Speaker 1 If he hadn't done that, if he just ate it, and by the way, not even bad jokes. Nothing.

Speaker 1 G.I. Jane, like, that's the most fucking, that was a powerful movie.
It was a great movie. Yeah.
A strong woman. Like, it's not even really an insult.
It was just silly. To smack a guy like that.

Speaker 1 And then that's your thing forever. People are going to remember that?

Speaker 1 Crazy. Yeah.
Crazy blunders, you know? And that probably comes from not having anxiety, by the way. That comes from having too much confidence.

Speaker 2 Confidence, too much.

Speaker 1 Too much.

Speaker 1 Too much of a belief in yourself. Too much of a belief.

Speaker 1 Yes. In your own importance, that you can interrupt this entire enormous award show, the biggest award show in the industry.

Speaker 1 That you're set up to receive a fucking Academy Award in about an hour or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 You're going to go up there and smack a guy on TV. Why would you do that? Because he doesn't have that anxiety.
So your anxiety shields you from doing some stupid shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the fear and the, like, the insecurity sometimes is good. Sometimes it's good for you.

Speaker 1 Like, the lack of insecurity could be the worst thing.

Speaker 2 If you're too cocky,

Speaker 1 it's,

Speaker 2 yeah, they say be humble. Be humble, you know.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I thought Chris handled it as well.

Speaker 1 Lizzie, what what can he do?

Speaker 1 What can he do other than

Speaker 1 run off the stage?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which he probably should have just walked off after he got smacked.

Speaker 1 He tried to keep going.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 I worked with him on both Oscars he hosted,

Speaker 2 and he is the nicest guy on the planet.

Speaker 2 I guess if you're, I don't know, just from working with him, you know. Yeah, he's a very nice guy.
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 Also, he's harmless. Like, you can't smack a harmless person.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Yes.
I'll tell you what, if that was Tony, there would have been a fight. If that was Tony Rock, there would have been a fight.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Well, Tony went off on stage right afterwards about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tony's a different dude.

Speaker 2 But Chris, like, is it?

Speaker 1 Almost if it was anybody but Chris. You know, I mean, you can't do that to anybody else.
It's crazy. If you did it to Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart would crack him.
The whole thing is crazy. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 It didn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 It's like the guy's in some sort of a very bizarre relationship with his wife.

Speaker 1 And, you know, whatever internal conflicts they have just manifested itself in a terrible decision that he made.

Speaker 2 If he would have said that about my wife, I would have smacked her and said, laugh.

Speaker 1 Laugh.

Speaker 1 It's funny. It's funny.
Come on.

Speaker 1 But, you know, not being able to take a joke is one of the worst qualities that people can have. Wow.

Speaker 1 Do you take yourself so seriously when someone says something funny, you can't laugh as well? That's crazy. You're missing out on laughs.
You're missing out on

Speaker 1 your own joy. Like, you you should have joy about someone making fun of you.
And you're great at that. You're great at that.

Speaker 1 It's one of the best things about you on ONA is that when they would crack on you, you would laugh.

Speaker 1 It's so important.

Speaker 2 They were good jokes.

Speaker 1 They were funny. They were jokes.

Speaker 2 And if I was at times lucky enough to come back with something, then I would. If not, then I sucked it.
The last time I did Kill Tony a couple weeks ago, and I told a joke.

Speaker 2 And Tony goes, That's the oldest joke in history. And I go, Yeah, I wrote it.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 it was a great episode because

Speaker 2 he fucked with me. I took it.

Speaker 1 Well, Kill Tony is one of the only places left where that kind of fucking with people is like openly encouraged.

Speaker 1 That kind of fucking with people is like, I mean, and Tony's the best roaster on the fucking planet. He's quick.

Speaker 2 He's like Norton.

Speaker 1 He's so quick, you think he, just like Norton. He's so quick, you think he wrote it in advance.
Yeah, he's off the cuff. He does it all the time.
He does it in the green room.

Speaker 1 He does it everywhere he goes.

Speaker 2 Well, but here's the thing, too. He's done that show for what, 10 years or more? Yes.

Speaker 1 He's built that muscle in his head where boom. Yep.
Quick.

Speaker 2 It's automatic that something's going to come back.

Speaker 1 Well, when you host a show like that, too, you understand the rhythm of the show, the beats of it.

Speaker 1 And he's so good at letting other people shine.

Speaker 1 That's why he's really good at like, he wants you to do well. He wants you.
He doesn't feel upstaged if Shane comes on as Trump or when Kyle was doing. Kyle did RFK Jr.
and he also did Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 Who Kyle Dunnegan?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, he's so good.
Fucking brilliant.

Speaker 1 That guy is fucking brilliant. He's so good.
He's so funny. He is so fucking funny.
Yeah. And then you had Adam Ray, who did Dr.
Phil, which is fucking amazing. And Biden, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 1 Show so good.

Speaker 2 I did Kill Tony twice with Adam Ray.

Speaker 2 And he's fun to be with. One, they love him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They love him.

Speaker 2 But he laughs and gives you your due, too. Like, I've done radio with Gervais.
Gervais is a big laugher. If you say something funny,

Speaker 2 he'll laugh and crack up. You know what I mean? And you got to have that.

Speaker 1 Even

Speaker 2 it's just... If it's funny, you know,

Speaker 2 they don't get jealous or get mad and go, I'm going to outdo that.

Speaker 1 They laugh.

Speaker 1 Well, the people that do suck. No one who does that is any good.
What's that? No one who does that is any good. No one who's like, oh, I got to do better than him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's stupid.

Speaker 1 You're missing out on the whole thing.

Speaker 1 That's not what we're doing. It's a show.
It's a show. It's

Speaker 1 whatever. Hey, I got to piss.
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Speaker 1 So I heard. You heard

Speaker 2 the stem cell.

Speaker 2 I can't do stuff for a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 You could do things. Golf? Yeah.

Speaker 2 For sure. With the stem cell?

Speaker 1 Yes. Of course.

Speaker 2 If it gets shot into me Wednesday, what's tomorrow? Tuesday. I could play golf Thursday.
Yes. What about the BPC?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just can't lift heavy weights.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm not going to lift heavy weights.

Speaker 1 That's all it is. Just don't tear it apart while it's building back up.
That's the whole idea. Don't aggravate it while you're...
Does that hurt when you do that? No. Then don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 Not really. It'll be fine.
A little.

Speaker 1 No. Well, you should be doing rehabilitation.
You should have already. I'm looking at your shoulders right now.
They look like they fall apart on their own.

Speaker 1 You got to exercise. If you're having having injuries with your shoulders and the muscles around them and people are telling you to strengthen them, you should listen to those people.
They're right.

Speaker 2 Well, no, listen, I went to

Speaker 2 physical therapy for my back and its work.

Speaker 1 So why wouldn't you do it for your shoulder?

Speaker 2 Because I was waiting to do this shit first.

Speaker 1 That would help.

Speaker 1 All of it would help.

Speaker 1 The more muscles you have around your shoulder, the better it is.

Speaker 2 It was only two or three weeks ago he said, go to physical therapy. I go, well, he wanted to cut my shoulder.
I said, I'm not cutting it. I'm going to try the BPC in the stem cell.

Speaker 1 You can definitely heal soft tissue injuries without surgery. The real issue is when tendons are separated and they need to be re-put back in place and reconnected.
That's the real issue.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of people tore rotator cups.

Speaker 2 Tear, tear rotator cups.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had a torn rotator cup.

Speaker 2 I think I did it. I was doing upright rows with 50-pound kettlebells, and I think that was too heavy or too much.
So you got a trainer, Rich. Huh? Get a trainer.

Speaker 2 I'm doing all right.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know how to work out.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you need some help. Nothing wrong with a little bit of help.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Look, do you want to get better or not? Yes.
Okay, you mean for my shoulder?

Speaker 2 You're saying get a trainer for my shoulder or my shoulder for everything, for all of it.

Speaker 1 So someone show you how to do it right so you're not hurting yourself.

Speaker 2 Well, I think I'm doing

Speaker 2 triceps and biceps, right? I know I am. I'm doing lats, right?

Speaker 1 Show me the guns. Well, they're not bad.
Then how do you think you're doing them right?

Speaker 2 They're not bad. That's ridiculous.
What, small? It's tiny. Oh, listen.

Speaker 1 It's there. I mean, I can see it.

Speaker 2 It's hard.

Speaker 1 Is it?

Speaker 2 My chest is nice. You want me to do my chest? You want to see my chest?

Speaker 1 No, I'm good.

Speaker 2 Take my chest out.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. There's no reason.

Speaker 2 My lats and traps are good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 2 for almost 68, I think I look better than most people I went to school with.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 1 I think,

Speaker 2 look, I work out all the time, but I maintain.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I maintain.

Speaker 1 I feel like a therapist. I feel like I'm helping you through your life.
You are helping me. I'm helping to get in here.
You are helping me.

Speaker 1 I'm helping to guide you. No.
Get a fucking professional that knows how to work out. And build yourself back up to the point where you're not having these kind of injuries.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and rehabilitate it correctly. Like when they tell you to do physical therapy in your shoulder, fucking do it.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 I want

Speaker 1 you waited three weeks. You're 68.
You only have a few years left.

Speaker 2 Fix it. No, then what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 2 I only have a few years.

Speaker 2 Well, do it.

Speaker 1 You want a few years left in fucking working order.

Speaker 2 Fucking listen, Bonnie.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you should listen to Bonnie.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 I'm going to fucking

Speaker 2 try.

Speaker 2 Do you think

Speaker 2 I'm never never going to get my arms bigger than that?

Speaker 1 That's ridiculous. Of course you could.

Speaker 2 At 68, you'd be

Speaker 1 getting my arms bigger. Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The reason why your arms exist at all is because your tissue is regenerating. Your tissue is,

Speaker 1 you're healing and you're getting better. Yeah.
You 100% can get stronger. 100%.

Speaker 1 No if, ands, or buts about it. You will get stronger.

Speaker 2 I have nice latches. You could be

Speaker 1 87 and still get stronger. As long as you're alive, you can can get stronger.
Because if your heart beats, if your hormones work, if you can move around, that means your body can repair itself.

Speaker 2 Well, I won't do

Speaker 2 what is it that gets you hard?

Speaker 1 Viola?

Speaker 2 No, no.

Speaker 2 No, not the drug that makes you...

Speaker 2 Yeah, testosterone.

Speaker 2 What's it called?

Speaker 1 Testosterone. You won't do that?

Speaker 2 Well, because

Speaker 2 it leads to prostate cancer. No, it doesn't.
That's what my doctor did. Your doctor's wrong.
He died. It's incorrectly.
Your doctor's an idiot. He died two years ago.
He's a dead idiot.

Speaker 1 He died two years ago. No,

Speaker 1 he doesn't know the real studies. There's a guy named Brigham Bueller who runs Waste Too Well, who could explain the flaws in that study that showed that it gave people prostate cancer.

Speaker 1 Look, people get prostate cancer. Testosterone is not giving you prostate cancer.

Speaker 1 But it's like across the board, the same percentage of people that take testosterone or don't take testosterone get prostate cancer. There's probably a ton of variables.

Speaker 1 A lot of it has to do with diet. A lot of cancer has to do with diet.
Fuel of cancer is sugar. Do you eat a lot of sugar?

Speaker 2 I stopped for a year. I'm back.
I'm going to get back on.

Speaker 2 I eat pretty fucking good. For the last month and a half, I haven't.
For the last,

Speaker 2 for a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's environmental factors, there's genetic factors, there's a lot of different things.

Speaker 1 but you know if you want to take care of yourself testosterone will actually make your body heal better you'll feel better you'll have more energy your immune system will function better everything will work better You should have your hormones balanced.

Speaker 1 Like, this is, we live in a time where you can get a full blood panel and find out where your nutrient levels are.

Speaker 1 And if you do it with a good doctor, what they'll do is they'll adjust your diet and your nutrients first and then see like in a couple months what your levels are then and then find out how much are you sleeping?

Speaker 1 Are you sleeping right?

Speaker 1 right yeah okay well there's a problem there because then your body's not recovering so you've got to figure out a way to adjust something in your life to make you sleep better and then after that once they get everything all worked into its optimum range you're doing all the right things they go what's what are your levels now okay well add a little add a little bit of testosterone peptides that'll increase your body's ability to promote growth hormone there's stuff like samoralin that makes your body produce more growth hormone so like your body repairs itself better, like when you're younger.

Speaker 1 There's all rigorous science behind all this stuff. It's all there's many stuff.
I'll get Brigham to explain it to you. He'll do a much better job than me.

Speaker 2 Who's that to guide tomorrow?

Speaker 1 He's the guy who owns Waste Well. Yeah.
He's been on the podcast. He's testified in front of Congress.

Speaker 2 I'll bring the disc.

Speaker 1 Bring the maps, too. He'll love the maps.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you something about these maps. These maps.
I printed this shit out. I see.

Speaker 1 It looks like your printer needs ink.

Speaker 1 They're fucking pretty dull. Listen to me.

Speaker 2 Listen to me. Fix your eyes.

Speaker 1 My test worked pretty good.

Speaker 2 You want to see some other statistics, I guess.

Speaker 1 Oh, what else you got? No, I don't want to get that. Please don't.
Did you see those girls land today? The Blue Origin? They shot that metal dick up into space?

Speaker 1 People were mad. They wouldn't let the ladies drive.
Katie Perry and someone else. Katie Perry, Lauren Sanchez, Jeff Bezos' wife.

Speaker 1 If that thing blew up and if Jeff Bezos' wife blew up with it, I'd be like,

Speaker 1 Twitter thinks that the capsule is too clean. They don't think it was real, Obviously.

Speaker 1 Of course, Twitter doesn't think space is real. There's a whole community out there.
Hashtag space is fake.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. There's really retarded people who think the earth is flat and that there's a firmament.
Think of that.

Speaker 1 They think birds aren't real. Did they land? Is it over? Yeah, yeah.
They did it? Yay. How'd they land? In the ocean? Not in the desert.

Speaker 1 How do they land?

Speaker 1 They land with parachutes? So the thing lands with a parachute? I'll show you a video. Oh, yeah, let me see.
I want to see the video. Oh, that's them in the middle of the desert.
Wow. One second.

Speaker 1 It looks different than that. That has to be crazy.

Speaker 1 Would you do that, Rich? Would you go to space?

Speaker 1 Probably not.

Speaker 1 You think you'd get anxiety if you?

Speaker 2 I don't even like Ferris wheels.

Speaker 1 Well, those things are very different.

Speaker 1 Is that it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's see the landing.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 people get their stuff in there.

Speaker 2 How long did they go for?

Speaker 1 Very soft, soft landing. Look at this.
Here it is. Imagine from space, and the only thing we got to land you is a parachute.
Like one of the oldest technologies. Wow.

Speaker 2 You can hear him in there. Blue oars screaming.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 How long? How long were they up there?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Not. Isn't it funny that they screamed? Do you think the men would scream like that? Would you and I scream like that if we landed?

Speaker 1 well i don't know about you but i know me look at that one no look at that go back

Speaker 1 the one below it

Speaker 2 i'll tell you what i'll never do is clap when a pilot lands you don't do that that's his fucking job

Speaker 1 it's true what if it's a female pilot you're like

Speaker 2 i wouldn't have got on the plane no

Speaker 1 There was a bunch of them in a row where I was like, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 The Delta one in Canada where it flipped upside down. Yeah, can you imagine? The lady just started landing planes recently.
Like, yeah, take that one out in the icy runway.

Speaker 2 Here's 30,000.

Speaker 1 No, I'll wait for the loss. Blue Origin declined to say how much the flight cost or who paid for it.
The trip came two months before Sanchez and Bejos to marry in Venice.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're going to marry in Venice in two months. Oh, they haven't married yet.
Oh, okay. I thought they'd already married.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. They're going to do it in Venice.
Oh, how beautiful and romantic.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can't tell people how much it costs because then there's going to be retards. Like, that money could have housed so many houseless, so many unhoused could have benefited.
How many poor people?

Speaker 1 It's like these fucking retards. Like, if Elon Musk gave a million dollars to everyone on earth, he'd have money left over.

Speaker 1 There's all these mathematicians out there that are fucking constantly want to comment on other people's money.

Speaker 1 How convenient.

Speaker 2 And those people would fuck up that money, too.

Speaker 1 It's all the rich people are the problem. Not me.
I'm rich, but I'm not as rich as the richest people. So everybody richer than me is a problem.

Speaker 2 Oh, fucking house chew.

Speaker 1 All these people. All these fucking people.
He's the one. Yes, I own three homes, but I'm a United States senator.
And I'm worth millions and billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 But everyone richer than me is the problem.

Speaker 1 It's the rich, rich, rich people. Not the regular, regular rich.

Speaker 2 Oh, that tour. There's so much.
Even AOC

Speaker 1 wondering. Yeah, tax the rich.
Remember she had that fucking dress she wore? Tax the rich. How about

Speaker 1 fuck off? What are you going to do with the taxes? That's the problem.

Speaker 1 When Doge is uncovering $250 million that was spent on animal transgender studies where you're fucking chopping the dicks of mice and turning them into pussies. Fuck off.

Speaker 1 Fuck off with your tax the rich. How about you fix the world without taxing the shit out of everybody? How about

Speaker 1 there's other ways?

Speaker 2 I can't even tell you what I sent the other day to the IRS. It's just fucking, and I'm, you know, just a regular fucking, you know, so much money.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, they're complaining about Elon. Elon doesn't pay taxes.
Elon paid more taxes last year than any human being that has ever walked the face of this nation. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 So shut the fuck up. It's like, there's never, it's never enough.
Wow. And people that don't have always look at people that do have like,

Speaker 2 what you could do with that money.

Speaker 1 What you could do with your money, you fuckhead.

Speaker 1 1% in the world. Do you know what it is? If you're a 1%er? In the world.
You know what it is? $34,000 a year. No.
Yes. If you make

Speaker 1 $34,000 American dollars a year, you are in the top 1% of planet Earth.

Speaker 2 Get the fuck out of here. That's a fact.
Well, because you're comparing it to the rest of the world.

Speaker 1 All of the planet. Yeah.
The whole planet. Of course.
Most people are dirt poor. Most people.

Speaker 1 So, all this bullshit about what he could do with that money. Well, you're saying that from your fucking Manhattan apartment where you're Ubering all over the place and getting fucking takeout.

Speaker 1 Shut your mouth.

Speaker 2 Listen, when I was in Cabo working there, it was amazing. You drive to the airport, people are living in fucking Shackster.
This and that.

Speaker 1 It's horrible.

Speaker 2 It's horrible, but

Speaker 1 look, and

Speaker 2 it's this sounds narcissistic. I came from

Speaker 2 a major, major drug addict, and I turned my life around. It's all, you got to find a way to do what you can for yourself.
I don't give a fuck where you are.

Speaker 2 I grew up with dudes from heroin addicts to people with five kids at fucking 22 or whatever. And a lot of people made it out of there and found a way to be successful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, you can look at it that way. But the point is, like, looking at people that are uber successful and telling them what they should do with their money is just the dumbest shit.

Speaker 1 And that's why I don't want to give out how much money it costs to fly this rocket ship into space. Of course it's frivolous and gratuitous.
Of course. It's a publicity stunt.

Speaker 1 They had a bunch of hot ladies. They flew them off into space and then they landed.
Yay. Now you've been to space.
But basically you're in space for like 10 minutes. That's what the flight was.

Speaker 1 It probably cost a billion dollars to fly people into space for for 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 Wow, do you know how many fucking clubs you could have bought me?

Speaker 1 How many golf clubs? How many golf clubs? That's your thing, right? You're just a fucking inveterate golfer, right?

Speaker 2 I love golf. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You and Jamie. Jamie should show you a setup back there.
Yeah. He's got a driving computer with a big screen.

Speaker 2 I was hitting in this morning into the screen.

Speaker 1 You bring the screen with you?

Speaker 2 There's one at the hotel.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, to Thompson. I went down, worked out twice.
I was like, where you're staying? No, I'm not staying there. I went, walked over there.
Oh.

Speaker 2 And used our screen. Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I bought my clubs. Yeah.
And plus, this isn't live.

Speaker 1 You and Jamie should fucking have a little driving contest. I think Jamie.
I played before. I played with him and Tony before.

Speaker 2 We played together? Yeah.

Speaker 1 A couple years ago, like two years ago.

Speaker 2 Oh, with me, you and Tony, right?

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 You won? Yeah. How good do you play? How good is he, Jamie? I don't recall.
I mean, I'm not good either, so it probably is.

Speaker 2 I shoot anywhere from 82 to I want to break a club.

Speaker 1 I don't know what any of those numbers are.

Speaker 2 82 is pretty good sometimes. I've shot in the 70s or 20s.

Speaker 1 How is it, Jamie? Pretty good. Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 Pretty good. I shot

Speaker 1 18 holes, but

Speaker 1 when I was a kid, the guys who golfed all the time were the guys who weren't paying as much attention to their career.

Speaker 1 I remember thinking, like, a lot of these guys are kind of stagnant because they're golfing all day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In Boston, those guys would golf all fucking day long, get hammered. That you grew up club? No, guys

Speaker 1 that I started out with.

Speaker 1 The golfers all wound up spending so much time playing golf. I thought I was like, wow, that's a big distraction.

Speaker 1 You should have some activities, but

Speaker 1 golf is like

Speaker 2 four and a half.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of hours.

Speaker 2 That's a lot of hours, but also, too, it makes you disconnect from all the bullshit that's going on

Speaker 1 in life.

Speaker 2 You know, you don't have to deal with whatever.

Speaker 1 You know, you golf with comics too, so you get to know.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, some comic. Yeah, I think I'm going to golf

Speaker 2 if I can after I get these shots Thursday with Aaron Berg. I think I'm going to golf with comments.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you definitely can. You could golf on Thursday for sure.

Speaker 1 Golfing is not going to fuck it up. It'll be sore for a day or two after you get the injections, but you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 We've got to clean you up, Rich Foss. Clean up your life.
Thank you. We're going to do it.

Speaker 1 Check in with me. I'll tell you what to do.

Speaker 2 Look, I'll show you my chest.

Speaker 1 Don't do it.

Speaker 2 I'll show you a picture.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 2 So you're saying from here on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're not saying.

Speaker 1 What are you going to impress me with your chest? That's crazy. No.
Well, you say I got small arms.

Speaker 2 I got to say, well, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 But you're telling me they're big. I never once said my chips.
They're good. Your triceps and your biceps are good.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Listen, let me explain something to you, okay?

Speaker 2 Fucking waffleneck.

Speaker 1 Waffleneck.

Speaker 2 Is that bad? No, I call my kids that.

Speaker 1 What is waffleneck? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I call them chickenhead.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 1 They're not big, but they're hard. Okay.
And they're not flabby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm not some flabby.

Speaker 1 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Do you want credit for being okay? Yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Whatever happened to Mr. Pull Yourself Up by Your Bootstraps, Get Your Shit together.
What about all that talk? That's you barely doing anything. You're like, you're okay.

Speaker 2 I work out six days a week. I lift.
Do you?

Speaker 1 Yes. I have a nice gym in my basement.
Do you think if I worked out with you, I'd be impressed with the effort that you put forth?

Speaker 2 Not in the least.

Speaker 1 Not in the least.

Speaker 2 I do 500 crunches.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. I do zero.

Speaker 1 I don't do any crunches.

Speaker 2 What do you do? Sit-ups?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do a lot of different stuff for air. Yes.

Speaker 2 Do you do planks?

Speaker 1 No, I think planks are nonsense.

Speaker 2 So do I.

Speaker 2 They're uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 It's hard to do. Don't get me wrong, but I think in terms of an exercise for your core, it's kind of nonsense.
I think you should do things.

Speaker 1 First of all, you should almost always do things that have a range of motion. Like when you're, I like to do things that make my body work as a unit.

Speaker 1 So all the ab exercises that I do, I do a lot of different things for abs. I do reverse squats.
You know what those are?

Speaker 1 You put your ankles, strap your ankles to a cable machine. You lay on your back and you pull towards you.

Speaker 2 Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 I do those.

Speaker 2 Well, I got one of those machines where

Speaker 2 I put my knees in it and I pull up to get the bottom. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good. Those are good.

Speaker 1 Sure, yeah, yeah. Those are good.

Speaker 1 Anything where you work your whole core. And then you've got to also do the opposite side, back extensions.
You should do that back extension.

Speaker 2 I do it on that thing I showed you.

Speaker 1 You were showing me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll do back.

Speaker 2 Because,

Speaker 2 and I got to lose another 10 pounds again. I gained it back,

Speaker 2 but it comes and goes.

Speaker 2 And because I have lower

Speaker 2 disc problems, and you know, I'm getting

Speaker 2 sciatica. So whenever I lose weight, I'm in much better shape.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could tell by when you got on that stretching machine, the DEX thing, your body doesn't go all the way down. It's tight.
Your lower back is very tight.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'll go in there right now and go all the way down. I was just doing it just to.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying there's tension.

Speaker 1 Do you see how my body hinges? Yeah. My body just hinges.
It just goes down there. There's no tension.
Yours is like,

Speaker 1 you stop like right there. You probably could go all the way down, but your body doesn't want to.
The point is there's tension in your lower back.

Speaker 2 Well, I've never used that machine, too. It was my first time.

Speaker 2 With excuses.

Speaker 1 Do you stretch?

Speaker 2 No. On stage if they needed to do an extra 20.

Speaker 1 They go to stretch.

Speaker 2 I've done it two hours.

Speaker 2 If D.L. Ughli and I'm middling, and he's coming four hours late because

Speaker 2 back in the day i was working the carolines and i was opening for deal

Speaker 1 and you know i'm doing all my good stuff up front oh no it's all and then they stretch and they go stretch i'm going what am i gonna do now right he wasn't there yet no he wasn't oh that's the worst feeling in the world walking in with his did all your best material and they tell you to stretch like i don't have it and you're just scouring your brain you're scouring your brain well luckily for you you could work the crowd yeah so i

Speaker 2 now what was the question? Am I doing, do I stretch? Yeah. Yeah, I do for my back.

Speaker 2 I have this extra, I lie down

Speaker 1 and I pull this back like that.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's good for my lower back.
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 1 Do I know what it is? You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 And I do that. Just crossing your legs and leaning forward.
Yeah. And I pull it back.

Speaker 2 Right. And then when I'm doing sit-up crunches,

Speaker 2 I'll do it either on that machine or I'll pull my legs this way too.

Speaker 1 So I'll get my lower.

Speaker 1 I watch you move. I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 First of all, I noticed who you have come in here. A lot of them, none of them work out at all.

Speaker 1 A lot of them do. Who doesn't work out at all? Name one.

Speaker 1 No, I don't want to. Name again.

Speaker 1 Shane? Ari. Ari doesn't work out at all.

Speaker 2 Okay, there's one.

Speaker 1 That's true. Mark Norman.
I don't know if Norman works out. Look at him.
Mark Norman definitely works out. Oh, he does? He runs.
He can do a lot of pull-ups and sit-ups. From audiences.

Speaker 2 You know what I like talking to Mark? He loves comedy.

Speaker 1 Oh, he loves it. And he knows the history of it.

Speaker 2 But he knows the history of it.

Speaker 2 Like, you'll talk to comics now and go, oh, Steve Landisberg was funny.

Speaker 1 Who was that? Look at him. Come on, man.
Of course he works out. He's ripped.
He's ripped.

Speaker 2 I don't like that. How dare you?

Speaker 1 Now you feel bad. Now I feel bad.
You've built that. It hurts me to see that.

Speaker 1 You're talking shit, and he looks great. Oh, fuck.
You're talking shit. He looks like a male model.
Show me that, Jamie.

Speaker 2 He's not holding up a newspaper. We don't know when that was shot.

Speaker 1 Who cares when it was shot? You never looked like that. Show that again? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you going to do? Take your clothes off? No, I'm going to take a picture.

Speaker 1 He looks fucking good there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he does. He looks good.
So does his wife. God damn it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Look at that right there.
He's got boxing gloves on and an iPhone. He's in shape, man.

Speaker 1 You're incorrect. All right, relax.
You feel bad, right? No, I don't. Shane works out.
He's here all the time.

Speaker 2 This is not working out.

Speaker 1 We work out. Shane works out? Yeah, he comes in and uses the gym.

Speaker 1 We work out together. Will you put your glasses? You can find your abs.

Speaker 1 Let me fuck.

Speaker 2 All right, listen to me, fucking.

Speaker 1 You are looking for your glasses. Are you going to find a photo of you looking good?

Speaker 1 Forget about that. That's the past.
Let's concentrate on now.

Speaker 1 Let's concentrate on putting away the cookies, put away the sugar.

Speaker 1 Listen to your doctor. He tells you to rehab your shoulder, get yourself in shape.

Speaker 1 I can't believe we're doing this. You know, people are listening, they can't see this.

Speaker 2 They couldn't see the picture of him either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, this you being on your phone here looking for a photo of back in the day when you looked reasonable.

Speaker 2 This was recently.

Speaker 1 How long ago? What happened?

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jesus.

Speaker 1 Look at you. They look good there.
There you go.

Speaker 1 Not bad. Okay.

Speaker 1 You look pretty good right there. What happened?

Speaker 2 It's not that bad now.

Speaker 1 How long ago was this? 2018. Oh, that's pretty recent.
That's pretty recent. Yeah.
Pre-pandemic. A lot of people fell apart during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 That's what happened. And then I came back on track for a year.
A whole year. And then

Speaker 2 since January, when I was in Canada.

Speaker 1 Oh, Canada, did you?

Speaker 2 Canada

Speaker 1 was communism. The guy who was communism.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 They made you eat poutines. It was so good.

Speaker 2 Oh, that shit is good.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's so good. It's so good.
Late night, late night poutine.

Speaker 2 It's just pure heart attack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have different delis in Canada. Like, we used to go to Montreal.

Speaker 1 They call it smoked meat. Yeah.
It's basically like going to Cantors, right? Or going to Cats.

Speaker 2 I've been to a couple of those smoked meat.

Speaker 1 Oh, phenomenal.

Speaker 2 But, you know, if you, I heard, and I don't know if this is true, and I,

Speaker 2 if you eat too much smoked meat,

Speaker 2 you can get stomach cancer from that, from all that smoked meat.

Speaker 1 Who fucking told you that?

Speaker 2 This guy with stomach cancer.

Speaker 2 No, not true.

Speaker 1 Smoked meat is not what it is. There is some connection between burnt meat, like the carbon in burnt meat and cancer.
I think it's colorectal cancer, but I do not know how robust those studies are.

Speaker 1 I mean, people have been cooking over fire forever. I just don't, I don't buy it.
There's a lot of bullshit involved in these studies that tell you that this causes cancer, that causes cancer.

Speaker 1 Here's what 100% causes cancer. Herbicides, pesticides, chemicals, forever chemicals that are in your fucking food.

Speaker 1 That paper cup that you're drinking out of when you drink hot liquids out of a paper cup. We got to throw those fucking paper cups we have.

Speaker 1 Have you seen what Paul Saladino did when he dissolved a Starbucks cup and shows you what's really at the base of it? It's basically a condom.

Speaker 1 See if you can find Paul Saladino's.

Speaker 2 Wait, you got all those paper cups.

Speaker 1 I'll take them. I know.
I saw them today. I poured my coffee in this.
We're going to get rid of all our paper cups. I'll take them.

Speaker 1 Paper cups for hot liquids are fucking stupid because the lining of those paper cups is plastic. So you're basically pouring hot liquid into plastic, which is the worst.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, look at, look at, see, he shows. So he's dissolving the paper cup, and that's what's inside of it.
So you think you're drinking out of a paper cup, but it's not really paper. It's plastic.

Speaker 1 There's a plastic lining, and that's the only reason why those coffee cups from Starbucks hold paper. So hot water to plastic.
Give me some volume on this.

Speaker 4 Chemicals, PFAs, anything in that plastic is leaching

Speaker 4 into your drink and leaching it into your coffee drink. So do not think you're getting a paper cup.
You are getting a plastic cup and you are putting hot water into it.

Speaker 1 That's a horrible, horrible idea. Look at that.

Speaker 4 Looks like a condom. What's the solution? Glass jar.
Get your coffee in a glass jar or a stainless steel mug. Simple solution.
Don't expose hot liquids to plastic like this.

Speaker 4 Horrible idea for your hormones. Horrible for your body.
Send this to somebody you know who drinks hot coffee out of paper cups like this and needs to get them out of glass or stainless steel.

Speaker 1 You think this is yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 My wife, she won't drink out. She knows all this shit.
She's a real.

Speaker 1 You should listen to Bonnie.

Speaker 2 Just listen to me. I try to.
She

Speaker 2 meditates. She's really good.
You know,

Speaker 2 it was just weird. Super you guys together that it works.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's like, you know what?

Speaker 2 here's the deal. What month? What are we at? April.
April. April

Speaker 1 15th. 14th?

Speaker 2 14th? April 14th. So let's go April 14th, May

Speaker 2 June 30th. I'm back here at the club on my birthday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 So you're going to look good?

Speaker 1 I'll look. All right.
I'm going to go to June 30th. We'll take a picture.
I'll put it on my Instagram. Take your shirt off, flex.

Speaker 1 Not now.

Speaker 1 No, June 30th. Okay.
I'm giving you time. Yeah.
I wanted to give you a goal.

Speaker 2 June 30th.

Speaker 1 Is that enough time you think? Sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Two months?

Speaker 1 Yes. In two months, you can lose 20 pounds of fat and look great.

Speaker 1 Just eat healthy. Just get on a very low carbohydrate diet.

Speaker 2 That's what I did. I'm not doing keto.
I'm not gay. But I went.

Speaker 1 You feel gay?

Speaker 1 A little.

Speaker 2 When I try to cut carbs, let me tell you something. It was easier for me to quit crack than it was carbs.
Really? Well, I never gave anybody a hand shop for a Kaiser roll either.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 2 part of my act, folks, he's killing

Speaker 2 June 30th, the week I'm here. Right.

Speaker 2 I don't know how much bigger my arms will be. You don't have to.
I'll just be

Speaker 2 more cut.

Speaker 1 I bet you look good.

Speaker 2 But I think I look okay.

Speaker 1 Well, we're going to get you a blood panel tomorrow, too. They'll find out where your hormone levels are at.
Find out what the fuck is wrong with you.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 All that shit. Blood panel with.
They'll draw blood. They'll draw blood and and then send it to a lab.

Speaker 2 They're not going to tell me I have cancer.

Speaker 1 They could, if you want to know. No.

Speaker 2 You don't want to know. I already had blood tests at my doctor's office.

Speaker 1 Did your doctor do a comprehensive cancer scan?

Speaker 2 Did prostate?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just looked in your asshole.
That's all they did.

Speaker 2 No, with the blood. And I looked at my sugar levels.

Speaker 1 They can do this incredibly comprehensive blood panel. They dig a lot of blood out and then they send it to a lab and they find out whether or not you have a I have zero cancer.
I was super happy.

Speaker 1 Because when they did it, I was like, ooh, I have the same feeling. I don't know if I want to know this.

Speaker 2 It's a scare. Waiting for fucking.

Speaker 1 Start thinking about it and start mind-fucking yourself, laying in bed at night. Like, what if I have it right now? What if I find out tomorrow and I have four weeks to live?

Speaker 2 It's fucking too much anxiety. When I went back in the day,

Speaker 2 everybody

Speaker 2 went for the AIDS test after you got

Speaker 1 cleaned up. I remember my first AIDS test.

Speaker 2 So I got my AIDS.

Speaker 1 I was so scared.

Speaker 2 Okay, this is true. My doctor, whenever I went to to my doctor and took any test, he would call me and say, everything's fine.
There were calls. Everything's fine.

Speaker 2 So I took an AIDS test. The doctor didn't call it.
And I get a call from the doctor. And he said, can you come in tomorrow? I'm going, what do you mean, come in tomorrow?

Speaker 2 My heart dropped because he would have said, everything's fine. I go, what do you mean? Why do you want me to come in tomorrow?

Speaker 1 He goes,

Speaker 2 Your tooth came in and we want to put your tooth.

Speaker 1 It was my dentist, but I heard a doctor.

Speaker 2 I thought it was my real doctor telling me I have fucking AIDS. You know, because everybody took that test in the 80s.

Speaker 1 When I first got insurance, I had to get an AIDS test in the 90s. And I remember the doctor, I said, boy, I'm fucking real nervous about this.
And the doctor said, are you gay? I said, no.

Speaker 1 He goes, do you do drugs? I go, no. He goes, don't worry about it.
You don't have it. I go, really? He goes, yeah.
I go, what about the fucking news? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The news is freaking me out where I'm scared to touch fucking doorknobs. Like,

Speaker 1 how come the news is saying that everybody's going to get AIDS? Listen, no one's getting it other than gay people and people who are intervening as drug users.

Speaker 2 Well, people on my block were dropping. We went to see Pee Wee in the hospital, and all the nurses were wearing masks.
So we go, I think he has that thing. Nobody even knew what the fuck to, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they thought it was contagious. By the way, that was Fauci too.

Speaker 1 That's Fauci? Yeah. Who's responsible for all that? Fauci was responsible for people freaking out about AIDS.

Speaker 1 Fauci was on TV back in the 80s telling people that children could possibly catch it from people.

Speaker 1 Yes. Wow.
Yeah. You know the Dallas Buyers Club where they were limiting the medication that gay people could take?

Speaker 1 That was about Fauci.

Speaker 1 He was responsible for that. He was the one who pushed AZT on people back then.

Speaker 1 AZT was that chemotherapy medication that was killing people quicker than the cancer was.

Speaker 1 They stopped using it on cancer and they repurposed it and started using it on people that had any AIDS symptoms.

Speaker 1 kills you dead. They were giving it to people that didn't even have any fucking symptoms.
They had HIV, they had no symptoms. They'd given them AZT, they were dying in months.

Speaker 1 It's the only time ever in medical history where they were telling you to take a chemotherapy drug indefinitely.

Speaker 1 Every time you take chemotherapy, the idea is that it gets your body close to death, but kills off the cancer. They were telling you to keep taking it.
Just keep taking it. It's nuts.

Speaker 1 What they did is madness. If you read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, it's all about that.

Speaker 1 And the beginning of it is all about the AIDS crisis and all the different things that they did that mirrors exactly what they did during the COVID crisis.

Speaker 2 So what drugs are they using now to

Speaker 1 they started using protease inhibitors and that really helped. Like the whole AIDS thing is very complex.
It's very complex because the vast majority of the people that got AIDS were heavy drug users.

Speaker 1 Heavy drug users or gay guys who are experiencing

Speaker 1 a lot of different sexual partners.

Speaker 2 But it was because because of blood being transferred.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's part of it. But it's also part of it, you're destroying your immune system with fucking drugs.

Speaker 1 Like these guys were taking amyl nitrate and crystal meth, and partying and not sleeping, just crushing their immune system.

Speaker 2 Plus, sharing needles with the blood going from them.

Speaker 1 Yep, that too. And then they would get them on medication that would definitely kill him.
And then it was a crisis. And then, you know, everybody was running around scared.

Speaker 1 And I was scared too until I talked to my doctor. He just looked me in the eyes.
But no one could say that back then. So this is like 901, maybe, maybe 91, 92.
When I, whenever,

Speaker 1 and when I got, and my doctor was like, Don't worry about it. I was like, What about the news, man? Like, I remember talking to this guy, he was a young guy.

Speaker 1 I was like, Why is the news telling me I could get he goes, Heterosexuals aren't getting this? Well, I unless you're an interviewed drug user, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 I only checked because I shot dope like

Speaker 2 maybe three times.

Speaker 1 What was it like?

Speaker 2 I didn't like it, it's just not it. You know, I was more of a up, you know.

Speaker 1 What did shooting dope do feel like? What did it feel like?

Speaker 2 Just down and

Speaker 2 I can't. It wasn't, I did it with Bastille, and he was a major drug out there.

Speaker 1 He was a major one. He was funny, though.
Frankie was funny. I remember seeing him for the first time when I was an open micer in 88.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was just a wild dude. He was like one of the first guys I ever saw with tattoos, all these tattoos.
And they're like, he does heroin. Everyone tells you, oh, oh, really? It was heroin.

Speaker 1 when someone did heroin back there and it was crazy like what he does heroin now how think about how many people are hooked on opiates well back then it was super rare well the difference between heroin and like free bass you can function on heroin there's functioning heroin heroin alex for years yeah do it

Speaker 1 you can't function on free bass or coke you got to keep having it i had a buddy of mine who was a longshoreman and he would tell me that this guy he would work with and not just one guy but one guy that he was working with that he was a friend, on his lunch break, get a bag of heroin, shoot it up in his car, sit there for a half an hour, and then go back to work.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 2 You can't do that with freebase, it's non-stop. You got to keep it.

Speaker 1 Was that your thing, freebasing? Yeah, freebase, free cracking.

Speaker 1 How old were you when you first freebased? Well,

Speaker 2 when I first got high, I was 15. You know, pot, and I led my way up to the gateway.
Make Coke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Coke. And then.

Speaker 1 So snorting Coke.

Speaker 2 I snorted Coke probably when I was started when I was 18 or 19, right? And then when he was

Speaker 2 crack probably 25 to 28.

Speaker 1 Do you remember the first time you did it?

Speaker 2 I think it was with my cousin. Yeah, it was like,

Speaker 2 I go, this is good.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess there was what, yeah, I'll tell you what story. I got so many of them.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 my friend,

Speaker 2 I was on the road. I came back.
He goes, look, I'm going to buy an eighth of Coke, cut it into five halves, five half grams. That's

Speaker 2 two half grams, and I'll sell

Speaker 1 the other three. I know where this is going.

Speaker 2 Well, we did one or two,

Speaker 2 and then he went to sleep.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this is fucked up.

Speaker 2 I found where he hid it.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 He didn't hide it as good as you hide your money. No.

Speaker 2 I went in and I would steal one at a time.

Speaker 2 I drove to the convenience store. I cooked it with ammonia, right? Ammonia? Yeah, clear ammonia.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. You actually cooked the Coke and turned it into crack? Yeah, with ammonia.

Speaker 1 Why would you do that? Is it better that way?

Speaker 2 Oh, that's how you get free-based crack. You got to process it.
You could do it with bacon soda. You could do it in a boil it.

Speaker 1 Who taught you how to do this?

Speaker 1 Are you a chemist?

Speaker 2 I was a crack addict.

Speaker 1 So, but like other crack addicts were like giving you the recipe?

Speaker 2 There's three ways to do it. So I did it with, or four with ether, which you could blow up your house.
Right. So

Speaker 2 I would steal a half a gram from them.

Speaker 2 I would go to the convenience store. I'd cook it, smoke it, and pour out the ammonia.
I said, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 Well. How do you do it?

Speaker 2 I don't want to help. You put it.

Speaker 1 It's the internet. Chat GPT will tell you to make.

Speaker 1 Ask chat gpt right now i'll tell you how do you take cocaine and turn it into free base you cook you put in a teaspoon and you light it and it turns into a rock okay and then you smoke

Speaker 2 you squeeze and try to get the ammonia out as much as you can in the rock

Speaker 2 so i would pour i would get the ammonia steal a half a gram from him uh-huh go to the

Speaker 2 bright early in the morning, come back, cook it, pour the ammonia out.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 now I will.

Speaker 1 Chat GB2, the chemistry behind it, how it's made for educational purposes only, not intended to encourage illegal activity.

Speaker 2 Baking soda, I said you could do it.

Speaker 1 Cocaine hydrochloride powder with baking soda and water. Sometimes ammonia is used instead of baking soda, but baking soda is more common for crack.
Heat the mixture.

Speaker 1 As it's heated, the cocaine bases separate from the hydrochloride and form solid rocks that float to the top. Cool and dry.
This is like a recipe. Solid pieces.

Speaker 1 The crack rocks are cooled and hardened, then dried.

Speaker 2 So there you go. I emptied out the first bottle.

Speaker 2 Then there was two or three more half grams. Oh, yeah.
I went and stole another one.

Speaker 2 Went back to the convenience store, bought more ammonia.

Speaker 2 After the fourth trip to the convenience store, I go, hey, listen, I got a cleaning business. We need a lot of ammonia.

Speaker 2 Well, I smoked all his Coke.

Speaker 2 And all of a sudden, I hear somebody yell, fuck. He woke up and saw his Coke was gone.

Speaker 1 How many hours have passed?

Speaker 2 Probably four.

Speaker 1 How many trips to the convenience store?

Speaker 2 Four.

Speaker 2 And I was just drinking straight vodka, right?

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 2 And I'm walking home. Now I'm $250 in debt.

Speaker 2 And it was towards the end of my career.

Speaker 2 As a crack addict? As a drug addict.

Speaker 2 It was a crack career. Well, I think I told this story years ago, but I'll tell it.
And he doesn't care because he told it in his book. So me and Frankie are doing a one-nighter.
And back then,

Speaker 2 I had the car. You would pick up an act at the improv and then go do the one-nighter in Jersey.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So we pick up this comic, little white guy, whatever. We go do our one-nighter, and we're supposed to drop him off at the improv.

Speaker 2 And I go, hold on, I got to make a stop. And we go up to Spanish Harlem.

Speaker 2 He goes, what are you doing? I go, my sister lives here. She's not doing well.

Speaker 2 There's people chasing people with knives up and down the street. And I go up and buy

Speaker 2 crack, free base, right? And the kid's like, get me home. Take me back to the improv.
What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 2 Well, relax. So now we go down to the Lower East Side, and Frankie gets heroin.
And the kid, now Frankie's in the back seat tying up, shooting heroin.

Speaker 1 While you're driving?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm driving. He's in the back shooting.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. And the kid is

Speaker 2 fucking scared to death. He was a little white kid.

Speaker 1 He wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld.

Speaker 2 It was David Spade.

Speaker 1 Was it really? Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 2 a little white kid from Arizona. Do you remember when he first started?

Speaker 2 He tells the story in this book, and I apologize to him. He goes, oh, don't worry.
It's a good story, right? But we kept him hostage as I'm smoking crack and Frankie's banging dope in the car.

Speaker 1 I heard an Otto and George story once.

Speaker 1 He's working at a club in Jersey. I don't need to name the club.
And he leaves the club with the owner's daughter. And they're headed into New York.
And there's another guy driving the car.

Speaker 1 He stops off at Washington Square Park. picks up a bag of crack and starts smoking it in the car.
And the girl freaks out and

Speaker 1 he says, the classic line, he goes, what? I thought the broad wanted a party.

Speaker 2 I just did a documentary about him. They interviewed me.
They're doing a documentary on Otto and George.

Speaker 1 Well, we did a lot of those shows, those prom shows with Otto and George. Oh, he was.

Speaker 2 He would, he was a genius.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I drive with him to a gig, and he would go, do you know what George thought of today?

Speaker 2 What, you fucking psychopath?

Speaker 1 You're a girl. Well, he would make people pull over so he could go check on George.
George is in the trunk.

Speaker 1 He would pull over and check on George. I think there's something to that.
I think that dummy had a mind of its own. And

Speaker 1 it might have been he had some weird personality disorder where he put a personality to that dummy. But that dummy, when that dummy would say things, you knew it was George.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, it didn't even feel like it was I.

Speaker 1 It felt like George had his own thoughts on things.

Speaker 2 I worked with Van Trollocus once, and I go into his room on the road, and he's putting away the dummy's clothes in another dresser drawer than his.

Speaker 2 He's like putting away the clothes of the dummy.

Speaker 1 He's holding the clothes

Speaker 2 of his dummy.

Speaker 2 Here's a bit I kind of want to do.

Speaker 2 You know, back in the day,

Speaker 2 you know, when there was bank robbers, outlaws, they would wear a handkerchief and go rob a bank.

Speaker 2 Well, I want to be the outlaw ventriloquist. Well, I go up a little dummy and put a handkerchief this way they can't see my lips move, but I could say I'm the outlaw ventriloquist.

Speaker 2 And I could do a whole five minutes and everybody's going, he must be great. I can't see his lips move.

Speaker 1 That's good, but you're supposed to talk too. Like the part of the fun of being a ventriloquist, like he would say, Otto would say, I can't believe you're saying that, George.

Speaker 2 Yeah. How do you shut the fuck up?

Speaker 1 The eyebrows would pop up and he'd get crazy like the banter back and forth.

Speaker 2 I'll talk behind the mask. I'm not going going to do it, but it's not going to work.

Speaker 1 How come?

Speaker 2 Terrible idea. Okay, so I threw it out.

Speaker 2 How come there's no ventriloquist on this planet that gets along with their dummies?

Speaker 1 Well, there's not even very many ventriloquist acts anymore. There used to be a bunch of ventriloquist acts.
There was Willie Tyler and Lester, who was in L.A. There was a few.

Speaker 2 There was Vince Antono and George from Long Island.

Speaker 1 You know what I think it was? It's like when one guy becomes really big, like Jeff Dunham, he became the man when it came to Ventriloquist.

Speaker 1 And then he's so popular that nobody touches it anymore sort of like Carrotop did that to prop acts yeah like prop acts used to be remember when we were we started out the fucking wood did you ever work

Speaker 1 with it he was great he pulled it in fucking diaper i mean laundry uh basket shoots with fucking props oh he had so much shit yeah he had a like a whole trunk full of stuff that he would have to carry through the club but there's they don't have them anymore because caratop became so famous as a prop act that everybody's like oh that's a carrotop thing yeah they just abandoned it.

Speaker 1 Like musical acts. There's no fucking musical acts anymore.

Speaker 2 They're on ships. Gary Delano was a musical act.

Speaker 1 The guys who've been around for a long time. They're legacy acts.
There's no upcoming people right now that are musical comedians.

Speaker 2 Well, there's no magicians. Farantino was a magician.

Speaker 2 There was a couple of magic acts. Like when I did One Nighters, you worked, there was Jugglers,

Speaker 2 Juggling Jack Schwerzee.

Speaker 2 A couple magic acts.

Speaker 1 There's a few magic acts still that work in California because of the Comedy and Magic Club. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Hermosa Beach. He used to have it where you'd have a magician mixed in with the comedy.

Speaker 1 Last time I worked there,

Speaker 1 when I started working there, I was like,

Speaker 2 Do you ever remember Chips Cooney where he did the fake magic act?

Speaker 2 It was really funny. He would just do stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 Lenny Schultz was a prop actor. He was a prop.
Crazy Lenny?

Speaker 2 He just died.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 Like about a month ago, three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 More pigs, Lenny. There we go.
More pigs. And he would just.
He was so ridiculous. He was nuts.

Speaker 1 He was so funny, though.

Speaker 2 And the nicest guy in the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember he had a, he pulled out like a Smokey the Bear doll, and he's like, only you can prevent forest fires.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up. And he'd punch the bear.
It was so ridiculous. And then he'd move on to something else like it never happened.
It's like, it was what?

Speaker 2 He would kill. Kill.
Kill. And it made no sense.
No sense. No sense.

Speaker 1 It was just maniacal. It was just crazy.
His crazy face and crazy eyes. But it was really funny.

Speaker 2 Like, Carrotop

Speaker 2 is a good prop act. If you like prop acts, he's the best prop actor.

Speaker 2 I mean, Rip Taylor didn't like him, but, you know, Rip Taylor's from how many fucking years ago.

Speaker 1 Rip Taylor?

Speaker 2 Yeah, remember the gay.

Speaker 1 Oh, with the mustache?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and throw this, yeah, the glitter and stuff. How come he didn't like Carrot Top? Because Carrotop was getting real famous at the time.
And Rip Taylor was... He's a hater.
Yeah, was the

Speaker 1 prop actor. But it's like most comics today are just comics.

Speaker 1 They just do stand-up. You know? Very little, like, all the variety stuff is gone.

Speaker 2 Well, Frankie Pace was a prop act, and he killed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he killed. Killed.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 There was more variety in the One Nighters and the clubs. Oh, yeah.
Then there is just like...

Speaker 1 Well, in the 80s, comedy was anything.

Speaker 1 There was no definition of it back then. Guys had pieces of paper they'd bring on stage and hold up signs.
There was all kinds of weird shit. Now it's just people talking.

Speaker 2 Oh, the guy from Boston, I worked with him, he was so angry. We did a one-nighter, he said, Fuck this at a pool hall.

Speaker 2 Bob Sumpton, batch. Uh, he had paper signs he would pull up and do a thing on signs or whatever.
He was just from Boston.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 well, there was the guy from the blue-collar tour, the Bill Ingvo. Yeah, he had signs.

Speaker 2 Did he? Yeah, none of them said quit.

Speaker 2 What do you call it?

Speaker 2 What's his name?

Speaker 2 Kills on stage.

Speaker 2 Josh Adam Myers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He does kills. Well, he says goddamn comedy jam where he does music too, but that's a little different.

Speaker 2 But we had him on our show, Would You Bang Him? Me and Bonnie do the show. It's fucking, you know the show we do? No.

Speaker 2 What we do is Bonnie and I host it,

Speaker 2 and we have like five comics, and they do like eight or ten minutes apiece. Then we have three female judges and a gay and a gay judge.

Speaker 2 And after the set, they discuss whether they would fuck him or not.

Speaker 1 Oh, banger.

Speaker 2 And the gay judge is always the funniest. He's always the funniest.
But some of these female judges, they're just so funny, you know.

Speaker 2 So he came out. We did it a couple.

Speaker 2 We do it at a lot of festivals. And we did it at...

Speaker 2 in New York, and Josh Adam Myers came out, and he sang the whole time, just fucking

Speaker 2 all over the stage. I'm going, he's got to close every show in a comedy club because nobody's following that.
Right, right.

Speaker 2 There's no way it's a different seller that you're going to go up after that. Yeah.
You know, and I'm not, what he does is great.

Speaker 1 What he does is, you know, yeah, if you were on the road and you had a middle act and the middle act is brought to you by the club, like they assigned a middle act and the middle act was doing music, you were fucked.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You were fucked.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. Fucking guitar.
I worked Vegas once following a guy with a guitar, and I had a hell, and he's fucking closing with Springsteen and a bandana on his head.

Speaker 2 I'm going, what the fuck? You're fucked up.

Speaker 1 It's a totally different thing.

Speaker 1 But it's weird that that's not more popular because it used to be so effective. That's what I'm saying.
It's like, why isn't there more of those acts like that out there?

Speaker 1 Because it was so effective.

Speaker 2 Well, some of them got older and went to cruise ships that do guitar.

Speaker 1 Why didn't the younger ones?

Speaker 1 How come no younger ones emerge? That's what's weird.

Speaker 2 It is kind of weird. No Impressionist either.

Speaker 1 Very part of you.

Speaker 2 That do Impressions.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Part of you. And everyone that they would turn around, fix their hair, and then do their impressions.
They always turned around.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Imagine if Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 2 I'd be scared to turn around and the audience left.

Speaker 1 But they turn around.

Speaker 2 There were so many. Jeff DeHart.

Speaker 2 He did Rod Sterling perfectly.

Speaker 1 It is interesting. There's not not a lot of just Impressionists, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Danny Stone,

Speaker 2 Randy Credico, who knows

Speaker 1 very interesting. Frank Caliendo does.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like the only one.

Speaker 2 You don't really see him in clubs. I don't know if he's still in clubs.
He does a lot.

Speaker 1 I think he does his theater mostly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was on the Virus Tour on the Opian Anthony Club.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did it with him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, you did the Virus Tour?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 I hosted every show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did one of them in Vegas. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Vegas one.

Speaker 1 That was like the last time I saw Patrice.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We're doing the benefit.

Speaker 2 We do it. I host it every year, and Billy closes it.
We're doing it,

Speaker 2 I think, in May this year. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, so it's next month.
Do you know the dates? Yeah, I'll tell you right now. Tell everybody so they can go buy tickets.

Speaker 1 Bust out those glasses, sell it out.

Speaker 2 These are dollar store glasses, okay?

Speaker 1 Why do you buy them at the dollar store?

Speaker 2 Because my good ones are at the hotel.

Speaker 1 I don't want to lose them. You don't want to waste them.
I don't don't want to lose them. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I would have worn the good ones on Theo's podcast.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ, I'm looking at your face when you turn sideways so I can see how much magnification you got. What are those?

Speaker 1 How many X you got? 250. That's it? Yeah.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 It looks like I'm seeing a double the size of your fucking. It looks like you got stung by a bee.

Speaker 2 Listen to me. Listen to me.

Speaker 1 Listen to me.

Speaker 1 So it's already sold out, so people can't buy tickets.

Speaker 2 I'm sure it sells out every year.

Speaker 1 It is beautiful that you guys do that every year. The Patrice Benefit.
Yeah. It's very cool.
You talk about a guy that touched so many people because he was so brilliant.

Speaker 2 How could it be on a Sunday? The Patrice Bay. It says May 18th in my calendar.
Maybe because Billy's doing

Speaker 2 12 Angry Men. He's playing every fucking character.

Speaker 2 No, he's in Gary Glen Ross.

Speaker 1 Oh, is he?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 him and

Speaker 1 Closers. See that guy? I don't know.
See the yellow?

Speaker 2 Go see it. I'd rather fucking walk through Lebanon when I'm wearing a fucking yarmulke than go see that fucking angry hack.

Speaker 2 Fuck off, Billy. Shut the fuck up.
Send me a stupid pro-Palestinian bullshit. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Oh, does he have a lot of pro-Palestinian teams?

Speaker 2 Oh, we fight all the time online.

Speaker 1 I'm not listening to you?

Speaker 2 Well, on text. Really?

Speaker 1 Back and forth.

Speaker 1 You and Bill Burr go back and forth about Palestine for real?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes, yeah.

Speaker 2 wow yeah but i'm you know look i'm friends with him for years i mean forever yeah fucking billy you know fucking

Speaker 1 when comedians get political and it's the point where they they distance themselves with people that don't agree with them that to me is hilarious hilarious and how stupid it is like what are you doing

Speaker 1 what what are you doing like this is this is where you're gonna fucking draw the line on some shit that barely affects your personal life

Speaker 2 i've i've not

Speaker 2 any of my friends that are like that, I'm still friends with them. I don't agree with a lot of the shit, and they're stupid.

Speaker 2 You know, I mean,

Speaker 2 one or two people I think say

Speaker 2 really vile stuff, and I just mute them. I don't deal with them.
You know, they're not friend friends. Right.
You know, I mean, shit, me and Norton don't agree on everything, you know. How can you?

Speaker 2 I mean, his five.

Speaker 1 How can you agree on everything?

Speaker 2 His wife is so much hotter than my wife. wife.

Speaker 1 She's got a better dick.

Speaker 2 She was the best man at his wedding.

Speaker 2 Fucking Norton is so quick and funny.

Speaker 2 He was the best man at my wedding. He's so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 He's great on Kill Tony. Oh, my God.
He's one of the best guests.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 you know who else is fucking. Colin is so funny.

Speaker 2 He's so quick.

Speaker 1 Colin's amazing.

Speaker 1 There's a bunch of guys, and I think I put you in there too that just never really promoted themselves on social media yeah so it's like you're really good but like even a tell like a tell for the level of comedy that he is he should be selling out stadiums every night but he just doesn't promote himself at all all he does is just like all of his following is just word of mouth yeah and other comics saying how great he is and like people who have seen him before they've come to see him again well he's so one of my videos now is open to up to almost five million views.

Speaker 2 Is that good?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good. That's good.

Speaker 2 It's really funny.

Speaker 1 I believe it.

Speaker 2 I believe you're funny. If you want to play it, I will.

Speaker 1 No, we don't.

Speaker 1 Let's wrap this up.

Speaker 1 So you're going to be at the mothership. What are the dates again? June what?

Speaker 2 June, I think, 27th, 28th, and 20th. I do it every week on my birthday.

Speaker 1 Take pictures of you with your shirt off.

Speaker 1 So prepare for that. Get ready.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get yourself in shape. Tomorrow I'm going to bring you to Waste Well, get you on the peptides and

Speaker 1 get your blood work and find out what the fuck's going on with your shoulders, shoot you up with stem cells.

Speaker 2 I do have a special on Amazon called Rich Voss Anonymous. It's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 Why is it called Anonymous?

Speaker 2 Because I taped it at an NA convention.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 And the backdrop, Bonnie directed the beginning. The backdrop is fucking so cool.
There it is. Look at you.
Rich Voss Anonymous. You look good there.
Where's the trailer?

Speaker 1 You're a dangerous man. You look dangerous.

Speaker 2 Can you play the trailer?

Speaker 1 No, we're not going to play a trailer.

Speaker 2 Okay, good.

Speaker 1 We're going to leave. Okay.
I'll wrap this up. No, we don't need to play a trailer.
Okay.

Speaker 2 You're funny. I was doing it for you.

Speaker 1 No. I don't care about me.
For you. I'm going to not do it.

Speaker 2 This.

Speaker 2 I've done this podcast three times, and this is the most fun I had. It was fun.
It was fun. We had a good time.
I had a good time.

Speaker 1 Come to the club tomorrow, too. We'll hang out.

Speaker 1 You got any sets tomorrow? You going tomorrow? All right. Come to the club.
Do bottom of the barrel, too.

Speaker 1 There's a whiskey barrel on stage with notes in it from the audience. You pull them out and you just riff.
Oh, really? Yeah, you love it. It's so much fun.
It's like a premise factory.

Speaker 2 So, what am I going to do about this thing tomorrow?

Speaker 1 As soon as we wrap, I'll set it up as soon as we get done here.

Speaker 2 This was on. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1 Rich Voss, ladies and gentlemen. Bye, everybody.