#2286 - Antonio Brown

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! What's going on, man? How you doing, man? Good to see you, baby.
Papa, look at that ring. Holy shit.
Pleasure to meet you. The most fun follow on Twitter by far.
Excuse me, X. Thank you.
Whatever they want to call it. You're the most fun.
Thank you, man. You made my job easy, you know.
All the entertainment you give me. How did you decide to start doing this? How did you, first of all, were you always this funny? I would like to think so.
But like, your social media presence, I forget, think tony hinchcliffe told me about you

he's like dude you have to follow antonio brown you must fuck he's the most must follow on the internet i'm like really and then i go to your page and i'm fucking dying laughing we're sharing it around the green room with the comedy stuff like ah and then when i won crack of the day i I was like, yes!

Yes.

Yes.

At a year.

Cracker of the year.

That's right.

Yeah.

I try to use X as a good platform to bring laughter and making, you know, bringing humor back and comedy. Making people feel good.
Well, you can get wild. Yeah, I get a little wild sometimes.
You can get wild on X. Yeah, you can get a little wild on X.
But I try to. Twitter, they would have got rid of you a long time ago.
Yeah, you would have been canceled rid of me too if elon didn't buy twitter yeah we thanks elon musk giving us that platform to be able to be expressive you know to bring bring a comedy back bring in fun yeah just ridiculous shit have some fun again some fun again yeah what happened everybody tightened up for like five years it was really tight yeah yeah so. Yeah.
So how did you come up with hashtag CTE SBN? Because that's my favorite. I feel like when I stopped playing football and I walked off the field, people was like, this guy is crazy.
He's retarded. You know what I mean? He's illiterate.
So I was like, you know what? Maybe know rebrand cts being with you know giving people perspective of different challenges people face and yeah great individuals how they overcome adversity and just kind of share and tune perspective of you know how people was getting through trauma no matter if you're a football player i mean what, what it's like for you? You started damn UFC.

The reality of head trauma is something that we're, like, as a society,

we're just embracing over the last 10, 20 years.

Like, it wasn't for that concussion movie.

I think that opened up a lot of people's eyes, that Will Smith movie.

Yes.

And the story, that doctor, of him finding how many people have significant brain trauma from football. Yes.
So for me, I try to use it because this is a serious standpoint. A lot of ex-players and players actually has been diagnosed and passed away from CT.
So for me, on a serious point of serious point of, you know, bringing record awareness and bringing, you know, a reality standpoint of what athletes and people fighting or anyone in their daily lives facing from head trauma of just people writing them off, you know, and encouraging therapy, encouraging how do you get through tough situation and then making it funny. You know what I because i feel like nowadays if you do something crazy people like oh yeah that guy's crazy so it's like let's just show why they crazy in ctspn and show the cause of the craziness you know what i mean yeah there i mean there's a real cause the craziness and yes and we're ignoring it as a society because we love football we love MMA we love boxing you know so we just kind of like overlook it with the entertainment keep moving keep hitting you know I'm friends with a lot of dudes so I get to see what they're like after fights you know like everybody watches the fight the fight's amazing and then you know you run into them after fights and have a conversation like oh, man Their whole head swollen can't move their hands, you know can't walk calves are blown out knees fucked up ice here This there is a challenge It's a challenge man.
It's a real challenge And when you started playing football nobody even thought about it Yeah, because you just you know you never think about the repercussions you just think how i make a better life well back then nobody even really knew that that was going to happen to football players it was kind of a thing that they thought about with boxers rarely people talked about football players who aren't doing so good yeah so i feel like ctsp was brought back to recognize the awareness of high level people experiencing trauma and not being able to overcome that trauma because you know life's changing on you in a second you playing football you know it's going to come to an end and then what do you do next yeah that's the hardest thing right for pro athletes you go from being a kid to all of a sudden you are making millions of dollars yes and you're young and you're wild and you're not thinking it's going to go away. And then all your friends are buying jewelry and all your friends are buying Mercedes Benz and Bentleys and all this shit.
And you're like, fuck. And I think the number was something like 85 percent of NFL players go bankrupt within X amount of years after retirement.
Exactly, because the lifestyle, you know, and making so much money and being able to transition in regards of having a new career and not making that much money all at once like you used to. Yeah.
And I think sometimes bankroll could be used to protect assets in regards to people coming after you too, knowing you're a big target when you're in position. Of course.
Yeah, but that is another problem with getting wealthy is that you become vulnerable to scoundrels. Yeah, scavengers.
And dirty hoes. Yeah, dirty hoes, dirt bag.
Dirty money-grabbing, like calculated hoes. Yeah.
You know, ones that, it's not just like, well, the relationship didn't work out, the lawyer told you you can get some money from him. Maybe you should go for it.
Yeah, fuck him. No, it's like from the jump.
They're calculated. These ladies these days, they're going to have a nigga baby because they homeless.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah, you got to hit them in back to the streets where you belong, bitch. You know what I'm saying? Did you ever have situations where you thought like girls were trying to like get over on you i just feel like nowadays girls just want the bb like the bbd the biggest and better deal right yeah you know what i'm saying that's built into human nature yeah it's like yeah human nature that's genetic what's the next best thing yeah it's called hyper called hypergamy.
It's like a natural state that women... Stay in, right? Well, they look for...
Like, if you're doing okay, but then all of a sudden she starts working for a billionaire and he gets divorced and he's real friendly to her, next thing you know, she starts picturing that closet. Seeing the art, right? She starts picturing that closet, seeing all those shoes and purses and all that jewelry.
She starts licking chops going to the movie theater. He's actually nicer to me than my boyfriend.
And then they start justifying it. And next thing you know, old Jessamy there.
She's going to the movie theater. It's hypergamy, yeah.
It's a natural state that some women, I mean, obviously there's great women out there with character and morals, and they don't do that. But it's a natural thing that women do.
They try to find a better suitor. Bigger and better deal.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Manscaped.
Guys, it matters what razor you use. And if you like to keep things smooth up top like me, it's even more important.
Level up your grooming game with Manscaped. They have the tools you need for a great shave.
Like their new Dome Shaver Plus, it can give you the quickest, cleanest, and most comfortable shave. And it's all thanks to its design.
It features four stainless steel rotary blades with skin-safe technology to help reduce nicks and cuts. And the flex adjust technology helps the blades adapt to all the unique contours on your scalp so you can easily achieve that shiny smooth look all over nothing's worse than making it halfway through the day and you realize you missed a spot and even though it's electric you can use the dome shaver plus wet or dry don't even need shaving cream.
Use it during your morning shower routine or on the go while traveling. The blade pad is magnetic and it comes with a hair chamber to make cleanup easier.
Whether you're coming back from an elk hunt or getting ready for a big UFC night, this bad boy has you covered. So ditch your rusty razor and messy shaving routine and upgrade to the Dome Shaver Plus.
Visit manscaped.com and use the code ROGAN for 20% off plus free shipping. That's 20% off plus free shipping worldwide with the code ROGAN at manscaped.com.
When you talk about CTE, when did you first start noticing the effects of football? I feel like to me, I always knew the game was going to come to an end. And I feel like to me, I always played the game smart as a receiver, not putting myself in bad positions, getting hit.
But I did have a chance to, you know, rest in peace to Marius Thomas, one of the ex-receivers who came in the NFL around the time I came in. I had a chance to see him experience, you know what I'm saying, some of that CTE trauma and intimacy.
How did he pass? From CTE. Yeah? Yeah.
He passed from CTE? Yeah, when they studied his brain, yeah, because I don't want to speak about the problems that he really had, but, you know, being a, we've seen some of the experience that he was going through. Playing for Temple my last year when we won the Super Bowl, I think it had a player, Vincent Jackson, rest in peace, also passed from CT.
So for me, it's a real thing. Not only just from the hits you take, but like you said, aftermath of your career or, you know, having a moment in your career where some guys can't get over it or, you know, you've seen fighters have a fight or it may not go the way that they wanted to go and it may not possibly affect the outcome of how they look at it.
And I feel like we all have traumas in our lives from all, no matter if you play sports or not.

So just raising awareness of getting mental therapy and being able to, you know, work on yourself so you can have a better life. That's an important point you brought up, like the psychology of an athlete.
You have to learn how to, like, put losses behind you and failures behind you and regain your confidence and then excel and move forward. You just gotta not let one moment overtake the overall

moment. failures behind you and regain your confidence and then excel and move forward yeah right you just gotta not let one moment overtake the overall moments of your career right some moments are big moments and you know if you get cut a little things that happen in your career just take it with a grain of salt and be able to cope with the situation you win you know yeah when did you i you talk pretty openly about CTE, but when did you start feeling the effects of that? I feel like for me, I don't really, I feel like I always was in tune and aware of my situation and where I'm at in life.
You know, I've been pretty blessed in my regards of being a football player, to be able to come from Central Michigan as a walk-on to Central Michigan, leave three years,

go to the Steelers being the second receiver pick in that year.

And then, you know, I always had a high belief in myself

and never was deteriorated about the position

or where I had to start from or where I was going.

So for me, I always had the intuitive trust and the belief in myself

regarding any situation I've been in because I came from Liberty City from nothing. So to me, everything's a blessing.
So I never let football or any position I was in in life deteriorate my perspective and my outlook or how I looked at. Did you feel the way your brain work changed at all though? No, I feel like the older you get playing sport, you realize deteriorate.
You know what I'm saying? What the game entails on your body. I feel like in my 20s, I was just ripping through, you know, dominating the game.
Right, right. Then when you get 30, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, it's a business.
They're looking for younger players to excel at the game. And then when you leave one of the best teams and put yourself in a position to do what's important for you other than important for the NFL, so you know what's going to come with that.
So to me, I always made the calculated decisions, you know what I mean, to put myself in the best position, i.e. like playing with Tom Brady, you know, going to the Pacers or leaving the Steelers.
You know, I always tried to just just knew I wasn't going to play for a long time, just maximize the moment in the meantime playing so when I'm done playing, I can live a healthy life. So you play it smart.
Got to play it smart. And as a receiver, man, they're coming for you.
Yeah, you got to play it smart. I mean, that's target numero uno.
Yeah, all the way. Yeah.
Do you encounter a lot of young guys or, like, you know, I'm sure you run into, like, and you definitely did while you were playing. Young guys are coming in and you feel, like, compelled to let them know, like, hey, this is, you got a short amount of time here.
Nobody, nobody, the longest anybody that ever lasts is, like, Brady. Like, what's he now? He's like, he's thinking about doing it again.
He's like, what is he, 43?

44, probably, yeah.

Quarterback's a little different, right?

Yeah.

A lot different, right, than a receiver.

A lot different than a receiver, yeah.

And they have longer careers.

But, you know, it's obviously, for most people,

you start hitting your 30s,

that's the same thing with fighters as well.

When they pass 35, that's the cutoff.

35, you're always looking for decline.

And some of them hang in there strong, like Alex Pereira. He's 37.
He's hanging in there strong, killing everybody. But for most guys, 35, 36, that's the dropoff, 37.
Do you feel, like, compelled to talk to the young guys? Absolutely, because it's a short window opportunity. Yeah.
And you got to know, like, what are you set out to do? Right. What are you came to do? You got to have those and change rules.
And just, you know, it's a long game. Yeah.
Yeah. Life is a long game.
Life is a long game. Yeah.
Football's a chapter. Life's a long game.
And it could be the most fun chapter of your whole life. But it's not real life.
Right. Football is just what you do.
It's really not who you is. But I feel like people will kind of get to know you from what you do based off you know Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah The other thing is that like some guys they have a real problem when they stop playing because they don't know who they are anymore They used to be a football player and now all of a sudden they're just a regular person who was a football player And that's and that's some part of the trauma as well you know some guys right it's not really in tune and knowing theyself in regard of who they is and to me i always knew football was going to come to an end we don't have unlimited health and i go back to the trauma which is understand who you are and um making yourself happy you know yeah yeah it's um it's interesting to see that some people can navigate it and they figure out how to do it and they get through life and then they move on to other things and they start doing commentary on espn or what have you and they're doing great and then most people that's not the case yeah that's why i say i recommend people who get therapy and you know into your career have good people in your corner that know, got your back that could still help you propel in life. Did you get therapy when you were done? Yeah.
Yeah? For sure you got to get therapy. Yeah? Yeah.
What did you specifically go to talk to them about? Just how you feel, you know, mental clarity, you know, emotional feelings. You know, I feel like waking up and being a football player when you did it every day and you wake up with so much energy ready to put it out.
Right. Learning how to channel it, you know, learning how to deal with some relationships that maybe changed now that you're not in a position and how to deal with that or, you know, how to deal with people leveraging you, you know what I mean, for what you got now.
Yeah. It's a lot of things that just provide mental clarity and just...
Because life's not about just being right, just figuring out ways to just be more happy. Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean? Did you have a plan when you stopped? Like, did you know what you were gonna do? I didn't know what I was gonna do, but it kind of just, like, happened. You know, I was making music with the distribution label, with video.
So as So soon I walked out the field, they released the music. I end up linking with Kanye West right after.
After that I was doing Rolling Louds. After that, you know what I'm saying? So for me, I was grateful.
You know, soon I walked off the field, music song dropped. How'd you link up with Kanye? Man, he was looking for me right when I walked off the field.
Really? Yeah. They was calling me, Justin LaBoye, like, calling me in New York, like, yo, Kanye wanna meet you.
I ended up flying to L.A. to meet Rich with Fashion Nova.
And we met right in Craigs, randomly in Craigs, but he was looking for me in L.A. And after that, with him making his album down to two and wow just getting opportunities so that's crazy to be able to have that happen for me you know what is it like working with kanye because i gotta imagine a lot of energy genius uh meetings at eight o'clock all the music 8 a.m or 8 p.m 8 a.m really every day Really? All the engineers thereclock, all the music.
8 a.m. or 8 p.m.? 8 a.m.
Really?

Every day, yeah.

Really?

All the engineers there, everyone on the team.

That's unusual.

Rappers at 8 a.m.?

Nah, Kanye's really a business guy who put in a lot of work.

I know a lot of people see his rants and him going off, but he's really passionate about his work.

He's a genius.

Yeah.

He's just scattered.

He's all over the place, and sometimes he goes a little off the reservation. I feel like he thinks in a's a genius.
Yeah. He's just scattered.
He's all over the place and sometimes he goes

a little off the reservation.

I feel like he thinks

in a lot of forms.

Yes.

So many areas

he like to think.

You don't make music

like that consistently

unless you got

a very different mind.

That dude has

a very different mind.

All of his shit.

He doesn't have

one bad album.

His new album

is not getting enough love.

Yeah, because I feel like people want to know where is he at. Where's he at? He's killing it still.
This music is killing it. This new shit is killing it.
I wish he didn't sell swastika t-shirts on his website, but he does that to fuck with people. He does that to fuck with people.
Yeah, he loves it. That's part of the fun of being Kanye.
That's part of the marketing, yeah. Yeah, it's part of the fun of being Kanye.
He's getting people to talk about him. He puts an ad on the Super Bowl.
You go to the website and he's selling swastika t-shirts. It's like, what the fuck? The hell is this? It's so crazy, but the music is undeniable.
Over and over and over again, it's undeniable. Every album.
He doesn't have one dud. They're all bangers.

They're all bangers.

All fire.

And the new one,

after all the shit he's been through,

the new one is a banger.

We play that shit in the green room all the time.

Yeah, he's all gas.

It's a banger.

Yeah, he's all gas.

All gas, no breaks.

Yeah.

But 8 a.m. meetings for rappers is very unusual.

I mean, he's more than a rapper.

I think he's just a creative genius.

He made beats. He's in fashion shoes.
Right, of course, yeah. Just creative, lucrative, man.
I feel like he's really passionate about. Yeah, the rap is just one extension of his creativity.
Yeah, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I just wish he would stop selling swastika t-shirts.
Yeah, he got to calm it down. I told him God is love.
You got to calm it down. Yeah, I told him God is love, man.
He's a really in tune spirit with God. So I told him that God is love, be love.
Well, you know what I think? I think Kanye feels attacked. And when he feels attacked, he fires back.
And then you develop this antagonistic relationship with the media, with some of your fans You know with all the people that are upset at you Yeah, you know he feels he feels like cornered and attacked and and not appreciated And then he fires at people and start saying wild shit and then puts masks on and He's a brilliant fucking guy.

Yeah, he's amazing.

When he came to do the podcast, unfortunately, at the time,

Jamie caught COVID, like the early, early days,

and Jamie couldn't be here.

So we wound up doing it in my studio.

But what he wanted to do was build a studio that looked like a womb.

Now, he loves, like, settings and how stuff looks, shapes. Yeah, designs he probably sent a hundred image every day just different design yeah he should send me sketches and shit what he's working on you should see his workout like he draws on work like a whole comic comic book yeah workout like he got it's it's retarded he's just so yeah it's crazy that's funny yeah I mean, that's how you become a guy that's that successful in so many different areas.
He's creative genius. You have to be driven.
You got to be driven, man. You got to get on that bike and exercise that cardio.
Like, he's... Right.
He got that agility. He got that agility just up and on it.
Yeah. I feel like that kind of brain, though, is like a Ferrari engine.
Yeah, it's never stopping. Like, you You've got to know how to handle that thing or you're going to go into the woods.
You're going to spin off the road and hit a fucking tree. And that's the problem with a guy like Kanye.
It's just like his brain has more horsepower than the average brain. And he's on a road where everybody else is going 35 miles an hour.
And he's like, get the fuck out of my way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know? know he's on a road where everybody else is going 35 miles an hour he's like get the fuck out of my way yeah yeah yeah you know because he's got that ferrari engine but that engine you will spin out you the tires won't hold you will take a corner too fast yeah you'll go sideways and it's the crash out bucket right here yeah what's with the helmet why'd'd you choose the helmet? I feel like this is

one of the lucrative helmets

that they wear

when they go to war.

Lucrative?

Yeah, lucrative.

You know,

this is the crash out buckets

because I feel like

when you wear this helmet,

you already crashed out.

It's like,

you committed to the crash out.

Right, right, right.

You're all in.

All in.

So I feel like

we have war right now

with the Democrats.

I know you. in all in so i feel like we have war right now with the democrats i know is that crazy to say i know it's crazy to say but i know exactly what you're saying exactly i just can't believe people say it and it's true it's wild life right now what is that like the democrats are now the republicans yes wow they're the ones trying to control speech they didn't even clap for the little kid.
No. That was bullshit.
They didn't clap for the little kid. They didn't clap for the lady who got fucked up by that volleyball player that was a dude.
Yeah, they didn't clap for Lake and Riley who got murdered by the illegal immigrant. Yeah, it was crazy.
It's just we're so divided. It's so...
I don't know. You can't clap for a little kid who survived cancer.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, where your heart at? He's's on their side, so you can't clap for this little kid? You're upset. This little kid is watching you not clap at him.
That's crazy. That's a little child.
Yeah, it's hurting his heart. A child with cancer.
And you can't put your shit aside to give that kid some love? That's crazy. Yeah, that's...
We, that's... We got...
We have to stop the division in this country.

And it's...

I feel like people are digging in their trenches.

They're digging in deeper and deeper.

And really, we should be encouraging the opposite.

Yes.

Most of what people are arguing about all day long in politics is not affecting your life.

It's bullshit.

It's all bullshit.

It's bullshit.

And you can get caught up in it, and it can become your your whole life and you will waste your life thinking about that stuff Instead of thinking about stuff that you actually have control over exactly your family your friends doesn't poor life Yeah stuff that's actually important, which is what you should be thinking about most of the time But some people they think about that and then think yeah What are these motherfuckers doing behind the scenes? They're stealing my fucking taxes, doing this and bringing in the illegals, and what are they doing with the trans kids? It's nonstop. Yeah, it's nonstop, man.
That's why we got to bring comedy and love back and enjoyable laughs on X, making people... Were you on Twitter before Elon bought it? Yeah, I was on that before.
Did you get in trouble at all? I've never done at all I would you take it on the DL back then obviously back down was rubbish in the NFL is all right some stuff I can't really talk on this right now you write is wild yeah yeah you get wild but it's funny yeah that's like that's what i go to twitter for i don't want to be mad yeah we don't want to stress people i wanted people to come to my x page and yeah ball out your eyes yeah so when you did the awards yes like uh who put that together me and my guy uh jacob we put it again genius yeah genius that was and And everybody loved it. It was huge.
I loved it, yeah. I think it Me and my guy, Jacob.
We put it together. Genius.
Yeah.

Genius.

That was amazing.

And everybody loved it.

It was huge.

I loved it, yeah.

I think it was bigger than the awards show with the Oscars.

I feel like we had a lot of numbers.

You had a lot of numbers on X, man.

Like, a lot of people watched that.

What was the final numbers on that?

I think almost 200 million engagements.

That is so crazy.

Not on the X, yeah.

That's so crazy.

But it's fun.

People are starving for fun.

They need excitement.

Yeah.

A little uncomfortable, but a little cool.

I'm going to do more award shows? I need to. We need to do more.
Especially if you're a part of it. If you're going to come gonna come support it, of course I'll support I'll get a bunch of guys to come to We need to do a real experience like a real show awards where we have it I feel like you could do it every quarter You can do like once a quarter Every three months, yeah Why not? Get some sponsors, let's go You know because like that's a legitimate show like fuck all these other award shows like I didn't watch the Oscars So much politics is not even fun.
I know they're talking about politics. Yeah crane and this and goss and Palestine You're making movies just make your fucking movie Hey, just go right to the theaters and keep it going.
We did we work real hard Everybody thank you everybody for all your hard work. Yeah, we won.
That's it. That's it.
That's all I want to hear from you That's all I want to hear. I'm not interested in someone who lies for a living because that's what they do They pretend to be somebody else for a living.
Yeah. Tell me how I should view the world Yeah, I like to go to other people for that.
Please. Thank you.
You're welcome. Yeah, you're you fucking people are just you're just actors Just because you're famous doesn't mean what you have to say.
Exactly. Especially at a fucking award show.
Imagine taking your time and you're going to use that award show to denounce politics and proclaim your platform. Just ruin shit.
Boring. Superbore.
Boring. Yours is fun.
You could have a giant audience. You could have musical performers.
Have a real show. People look forward to it and feel happy about it.
Fuck yeah. It makes people feel good for doing great things.
Yes. And it's also like the fun thing about you doing something like that too is it lets other people know, oh, I could cut loose too.
You could be a little open. comedy fight.
Yeah, maybe someone will pay attention to me. Maybe I can crack some good jokes and have some fun.
Some good humor to bring people together. Yes.
Well, that's one cool thing that I am seeing from a lot of former athletes. They're starting podcasts.
Yeah. I like the podcast.
This world is space. Yeah.
It's a good way for guys to just sit around and shoot the shit and be expressive look at pat mcafee he's fucking killing it yeah take it to a whole new level yeah but that's like a great example of what's possible for a lot of former athletes yeah especially fun guys like you yeah have you thought about doing a podcast i would love to i started started a little on ctspn but I think I need it. I feel like I don't want to be the guy

that's just talking about...

Yeah.

I feel like sometimes

we get a little watered down

when you just...

Right.

Talking too much.

I feel like as a player,

I always was about action.

I love to talk

and be funny and creative,

but sometimes it depends on,

you know,

what's the seriousness

and the purpose coming behind it

or what's the meaning.

Oh, believe me, I know.

I talk too much.

I'll see you give your opinion. You're always real.
You're a realist. I try to keep it real.
Keep it official or tell the truth how they're feeling. It's always amazing to be here with you on the experience here.
It's real. Well, I feel very fortunate that my job depends on me being real.
Yeah. So, like, you don't have an option to not be real.
But a lot of people can't really pay that price. How do you come to a source for yourself where you can just be 100% genuine about, like, how you feel and who you is? I kind of always have been that way.
I think that's cte i love that that's your trauma when i was young man i got hit in the head a lot and i think uh all my years of sparring and fighting i think rattled something loose it rattled the give a part loose where it's like uh i don't care as much if other people are mad at me as some people do i don't care as much I mean it doesn't I don't like it. I don't like it people are upset at me, but it doesn't ruin my life

Like it does with some people I can just like okay

Yeah, whatever also, I think I have

Enough real-world perspective to know what's actually important in this life

And it's not really necessarily other people's opinions especially the type of opinions of people that get upset all the time about everything. They're not valuable opinions.
So even if they're making you out to be the worst person that's ever lived, according to them, but they're idiots. You have to be able to have perspective.
And if you feel a certain way and you don't tell people, if you think a certain way, you don't tell people, you're doing a disservice to you. You're doing a disservice to them.
Like nobody is, nobody's benefiting from that. Nobody.
No one's benefiting you from all of them back. Yeah.
You're being your true self. So how do you handle criticism? You just handle it with achievement, right? Just don't say nothing, right? Just keep on going.
Just keep going. Achieve more, right? Yeah.
This thing called life going to keep on rolling. Just ignore it.
I mean, I'm my worst critic. So if I have a bad show, if I do something I don't like or wish I didn't do, I am upset at myself more than other people are going to be anyway.
Now you're a realist. Yeah, so I'm not interested in the opinions of people that are easily upset by almost anything.
How do you feel about crypto, man? You got Phantom Wallet? How do you get your money in crypto? Well, Jamie and I have been talking about starting our own bullshit coin. That'd be dope.
You know what I mean? Not doing that. bullshit coin? I thought you were gonna do a pull it up Jamie coin

No, no, no

What about the butt coin?

You heard of butt coin?

No, what's butt coin?

The Dodging New Dodge coin?

Hmm?

Dodging New

I read a show today at Dodging New Dodge coin

I mean it's a bunch of coins

There's like a million coins, right?

Yeah, there's like a million coins

How many coins are there?

How many like meme coins?

It's over though

It's over

It's over?

Yeah

What do you mean?

The meme coin

It all fell apart

Like when?

This week?

This week?

Yeah

Thank you. How many coins are there? How many meme coins? It's over? Yeah.
What do you mean? The meme coin? It all fell apart. When? This week? Yeah.
Jamie? For real? Everything fell apart. Why did it fall apart? Because of its nonsense.
I hope we didn't ruin it by talking about it. It could have.
I don't know. I'm thinking about launching a meme coin.
I don't know. I'm not making any accusations.
Portnoy kind of exposed it. It's over.
Because Portnoy was the only one that was looking at it going, am I going to jail? Is this legal? Yeah, I feel like you should. I was thinking about launching a coin myself that's really legit, that you don't own, you don't sell it, you don't rip it.
That way, if it tanked, they make their money. I feel like you could go to focus dot xyz at ab and check it out is that yours yeah okay so um so you promise not to pump and dump yeah no pump and dump it's an unruggable like nobody could pump and dump oh you can't pull the rug out yeah you can't pull the rug out so that way it just stay and grows because that's why i feel like that's what people get in trouble with all these coins just pumping down people don't want to be scammed or fucked over or manipulated so i feel like you got to have for me to make one coin i feel like we got to make one that won't sell a tank unguardable one that you could focus on i think i'm gonna put it out now it's on focus.xyz slash ab there was um this one coin that hamzat chumay, the UFC fighter, released.
That was, they were claiming that he did a pump and dump. And there was like, you ripped off your fans.
I'm like, man, you can't rip off your fans, obviously. But also, I don't know if the people that are buying those coins are fans.
I think they're gamblers. I think those people are just gamblers.
And they're just trying to figure out, okay, if I buy in okay if i buy in now and you know they probably got like their finger over the sell button waiting for it to get to a certain number and cash out and cash out it's like the casino at that point 100 but it's it's more rigged than the casino because the casino like the person playing it can't rig it But this the person playing it is rigging it the person playing it can't rig it. But this, the person playing it is rigging it.
The person buying the coins can rig it. Especially if you get a famous guy like Hamzat or someone else to tweet about it and make it a big deal.
And then the price goes up and then you just pick a peak number. And when it hits that number, that's it.
Yeah, you can't fuck people with people

No, one's feeling good fuck without their no decision, but also Who are these people and why they think they were gonna make money on bullshit coins? Yeah What is a we've you know I'm saying like we are we mad at the casino when someone blows all their money playing roulette? No, we're like well, that's what you signed up for Like you could have won money like people win money on roulette or they don't but if you lose all your money roulette we're not mad at the casino no so why are we mad when someone loses their money in meme coins you know it's like what the fuck did you think was gonna happen you took a gamble yeah you you're literally buying a coin that's like a little doggy face and you you took your whole life savings and you gambled on a doggy face coin? That's what? A fake money coin? Explain that to me. Dumbass of the day.
That's dumbass of the day. Yeah, literally.
And again, I feel terrible for anybody who got tricked into doing that shit. But I think most of those people are not getting tricked.
They're like scamming. Yeah.
They're hustling. They're hustling.
They're trying to figure out when to buy, when to sell. Figure out where to make it big.
Yeah. But the weird thing is like a guy like Portnoy can tweet about a coin.
And then once he makes that post, the coin goes up. And then he sells.
And he makes a million dollars. He's like, is that okay? Like, is that legal? Well, it turns out it is legal.
That's totally legal to do. But like, shouldn't there be some fucking regulations? Because you can't do that with a lot of things.
If you did that with the stock market, wouldn't you be in trouble if you did that with the stock market? Like, if you tweeted about a stock and then that stock went up and then you sold right away. Like, if you're like, I'm bullish on this stock and then that stock goes up and then you sell right away.
Is that a pump and dump? It is, right? Yeah. It's not? Is that totally legal? It's legal.
Talk in the microphone, bro. I have no idea why that wouldn't be legal, but that's not pumping.
But you're promoting it, right? That's not pumping. Pumping literally is you're putting money up.
Okay, so you're putting money to elevate the price. It has to be seen.
There has to be something to look at. So that's the question.
So it all starts out with some real money. Yeah.
Right. You got to put something in on it.
You can't just start off. You got to have your money.
How much money? How much ever you can put. How much does a coin like? It all starts.
It literally depends. It's over.
I'm telling you this is over. It's not worth learning it now jamie's funny it's over you know what that means that means jamie's stockpiling coins he's trying to bring down the price don't you feel it he's trying to get the ups he's trying to bring down the price if i was that says that's not how this game works i know really the opposite of how it would work if you don't have to lie to us you.
All right. I seen you get high with Elon Musk on here.
He hit the joint, and it's like. Allegedly.
Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah.
Allegedly. I like that.
He got in trouble for that. I don't know.
Because he has top secret clearance. Yeah, I figured he was.
Think about that. We can't show that on YouTube anymore.
YouTube is. YouTube is not liking the smoke.
YouTube is taking some precautions. Protecting people from themselves.
Make sure base smokes, man. 50 s pack.
This stuff that you have is legal in 50 states? Yes, Bay Smokes. I don't even want to ask how.
I just trust you. Bay Smokes.
Bay Smokes. How's it legal in 50 states? I'm going to ask how.
Bay Smokes. Right.
Bay Smokes. You got to explain to us how.
I know how it's legal. How? Bay Smokes got the paperwork.
He figured it out. Well, it all should be legal.
I think he got hemp. He sell hemp as well.
Oh, okay. So that was the key about it, to be able to get the clearance of 50 states based smokes.
I don't know how the DEA feels about that, but I feel like we're just a few years away from it being completely legal. I know Kamala was saying that she wanted to make it legal if she got into office.
Yeah, that's the best thing she ever said. You want some coffee? Yeah, I'll try.
I hope Trump does it too. Yeah, that'd be cool.
I really do, because it's stupid. Thank you, brother.
I mean, if you don't want to smoke pot, don't smoke pot. If you don't want to drink whiskey, don't drink whiskey.
She had a choice. Yeah, just give people choice.
And don't tell me it's all bad for you. Stop.
You don't know. You don't know.
You obviously don't smoke weed. Shut your mouth.
You dig? It It's gonna make you lazy And ruin the children No No you have lazy kids You get kids high They get paranoid When they get paranoid They work harder They start getting it going Yeah you start picturing yourself Old in your deathbed Like what did I do You're like oh my god I gotta get to work Get you going Sometimes a little paranoia Is good for you. I like it.
They're going to put that fire on you to get going. Yeah.
Comfort is the worst poison that a man can consume. Don't seek comfort.
No, no, no, no, no. Got to commit to be the difference.
Yeah. You get to enjoy comfort when you earn it.
You know, long day's work. You want to come home, sit in front of the television, watch a little Netflix, have a good time, have a nice meal at a nice meal at a restaurant yeah yeah you earned that but don't think that's what you want out of life i just want to retire and drink jordan peterson talked about this he said what's your vision of retirement it's like is your vision of retirement sitting on the beach drinking margaritas like how long do you think you can do that for maybe a days? A week? Two weeks? Life is always wrong.
You're going to be depressed. You have no purpose in life? Yeah.
I think the problem really is that a lot of people don't have any purpose while they're working. Like, a lot of people aren't fortunate to pursue a career in football and to be, you know, a podcaster or something they enjoy.
They're doing something that sucks,

so they can't wait until they don't have to do the thing that sucks.

And they think, oh, I could just be free just to lay around and do nothing.

Man, you better find something to do.

You better go play golf.

Life's always about being driven. The moment you think you can stop and just not do nothing,

then you're going to be stopped.

You got to keep going.

Exactly.

That's what I tell all my friends to start getting successful. People are like, oh, you made it.
You can relax now. I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm nothing, then you're going to be stopped. You got to keep going.
Exactly. That's what I tell all my friends to start getting successful.
You know, people are like, oh, you made it. You can relax now.
I go, listen to me. There is no made it.
You made it when you're done. There is no made it.
Made it is not real. It is just life.
Exactly. You live in life.
You're successful. Good.
That means you have an obligation to work harder to keep it rolling. Hold up.
That's standard. You got to standard to it.
You got to keep going. You got to push it harder now.
But there's no made it. There's no fucking holding hands and walking out into the sunset.
That's just a mentality for people in that contentment. Just wanting to be content in regards of everything's done, right? Yes.
They want to get off work. That's what it is.
They want to get off work and relax. They want to go do some...
On their own time. Yeah, because most people are not really living.
They're just surviving. They're just existing.
Doing what they have to do. Yeah.
And the only time they feel like they're living is they're hanging out with their friends. Yeah.
Having fun, relaxing. But you can't do that professionally.
So you got to find something you enjoy as much as your hobbies. Figure out how to do that.
You got to live life, you know what I mean, healthy. Yeah.
Exercise what you eat. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yes. When you first started posting wild shit on Twitter, did anybody ever call you and go, hey, man, you got to stop? Of course, everyone.
They was like, bro, what the fuck? They called my phone like, bro, you idiot. You calling people crackers now? What the fuck, bro, it's the uncomfortable sense of humor for comedy, bro.
Well, crackers, the most benign of all insults. That doesn't work at all.
That's what I'm saying. Everyone loves crackers.
Yeah, no one's upset. Cheez-Its.
No one's upset. I just feel like when I first started, they're like, what the hell is you doing? Oh, a out of the day they're like whoa yeah you know i mean i was like you know what it's not meant to like it's meant to bring people up to say like yo we could have a funny moment like for fun yeah yeah fun yeah enjoy yourself man enjoy yourself yeah we we need a lot more of that and but, you know, we were conditioned because of the way the old Twitter worked to be very careful of what you said.
Very cautious of what you said. And also, there was real consequences.
Yeah. You wouldn't just get banned from Twitter.
You might get banned from Facebook and everything else as well and then get labeled a dangerous person. I remember when one of my football friends, Rashad Mendenhall, back in the days he tweeted, it was like 2012 he tweeted about like 9-11 when he was playing.
And I remember right away they had like the feds calling his phone, newspaper. It was crazy.
What did he say? He's just like, I don't think we should be celebrating the death. I think the death of Osama bin Laden, I think, for the 9-11 attack, I think in 2012, I think he must, we just killed him.
America just had killed him. So I feel like he tweeted something, and it was like, that's when we back on Twitter was like, he was limiting what you could say.
That was a prime example of, you know. And did they attack him? Yeah, attacked him all over the news.
I think that was his last year with the Steelers. Really? Literally.
They got rid of him because of a tweet. Yeah.
God damn. What did he say? Can you find out what he said, Jamie? Rashard Mendenhall's at 9-11.
Shout out to Rashard Mendenhall. That my brother Yeah That was a dangerous time To say controversial shit You'd lose your whole career and you couldn't get it back Yeah yeah it'll be over You couldn't get it back back then Nobody rebounded from those days There was people that had Big public personas And then they kind of got removed from the conversation And even when they got brought back years later, they were so devastated out of it, yeah, so Traumatized, they had CT by that time Like legit, they have trauma, like you're legitimately worried So what does he say? Mendehal's post, day after Bin Laden news broke, said What kind of person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can hate a man they have never heard speak we only heard one side he also tweeted September 11 attacks we never know what really happened I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style the latter post is eventually removed by Mendehall's Twitter page um Wendy's offering was a different story I appreciate those who've decided to read this letter, attain a greater understanding of my recent Twitter post.
See, I've gotten misconstrued. And I wanted to use this outlet as a way to clear up things that do not truthfully represent myself, what I stand for personally, and any organization that I'm a part of.
First, I want people to understand I'm not in support of bin Laden or against the USA. I understand how devastating 9-11 was to this country and to the people whose families were affected, not just in the USA, but families all over the world who had relatives in the World Trade Center.

My heart goes out to the troops who fight for our freedoms every day, not being certain if they will have the opportunity to return home, and the families who watched their loved ones bravely go off to war.

Last year, I was grateful enough to have the opportunity to travel overseas, to participate in football camp and put on for the children of U.S. troops sanctioned in Germany.
It was a special experience. These events had a significant impact in my life.
Oh, point out the Celebrates Death tweet. This controversial statement was something I said in response to the amount of joy I saw in the event of murder.
I don't believe this is an issue of politics or American pride But one of religion morality and human ethics see that's the problem with tweets because you're writing something it's 120 characters back then and it's just You know a complicated issue like that thing like maybe we shouldn't be celebrating death Maybe we shouldn't celebrating murder. You know, you know, maybe we should Instead of like having joy and and cheering Maybe we should wonder how that guy got into the position he's in in the first place Like what happened if you know the whole history of Osama bin Laden? It's kind of fucking crazy because he worked for us.
He was the head of the Mujahideen. Yeah, yeah And we trained them the CIA trained them to fight against the Soviets and you know we We fucking armed those people supplied them got them going and then they you know after a while they're like fuck these people They turn on America and instead of being our ally they were our worst enemy We doing over there snapchat.
What's going on? No, I was just touching myself. You don't snapchat do you? No, I don't do Snapchat.
No, the kids Snapchat. My kids don't even text.
They just snap their friends. They're in the middle of the movie theater or something.
They'll just take a weird face, send it to their friends. I'm like, what are you doing? This is a weird way to communicate.
Snapchat's got all the filters of the face you could just make a cradle with the text. Kids are just all in addicted to Snapchat.
I was just texting while saying.

You know another thing that's weird too is they all have a snap map

so they know where they all are.

Oh, you see where you're at all the time.

They're like, oh, she's with him, that fucking bitch.

You see where all your friends are.

You got a map of all your friends that you let follow.

You can see a whole layout where everyone at.

It's weird, man.

They're all little surveillance experts.

Standing on the map. Yeah, they're all little narcs.
They're all narcing on each other. But the crazy thing is they give it up to each other.
They all, like, you have to, if you have friends, you have to let your friends know where you are on the Snap map. And if you block it, like if you block them temporarily, what is she doing? Where the hell you at? Where do you go? What is he up to? You off the grid? He's off the grid.
What is this motherfucker temporarily what is she doing where do you go what is he up to off the grid he's off the grid what is this motherfucker what is he doing how's it going on yeah man kids today they don't have any fucking privacy no no everything is exposed everything's exposed yeah what year were you born 88 1988 okay so by the time you were 20 years old phones were just starting to arrive right like 98 ish yeah sidekick you've right flip phones next time remember the sidekick yeah i was so jealous like wow you got a keyboard yeah that's crazy you got a little keyboard and then people's sidekicks were getting hacked remember paris hilton some pussy pussy photos got out, I believe. She had designer vagina.
Maybe she just had a pretty one. Some girls are just born with a pretty one.
Crazy. But some girls do get designer vaginas, which is like, ladies, you don't have to do that.
Don't do that. We don't care what it looks like.
Yeah. I don't mind a little chaos down there.
I don't mind a little Harry Potter. Yeah, you don't have to.
I hit it with my wand still. You don't have to trim it't care what it looks like Yeah I don't mind a little chaos down there I don't mind a little Harry Potter Yeah, you don't have to I hit it with my wand still You don't have to trim it up Make it look like the perfect wonton That's not necessary If it's hairy, then that means It's not really Being spanked a lot I don't know if that's true There's a lot of hairy ladies With loose morals Damn I thought a hairy pussy Is not a busy pussy It depends on what she doing with it.
She might just let it work because nobody's getting it. Maybe.
Maybe. If she cleaned it off, that means she's getting ready to give it.
I guess dudes do get dick operations, right? Because they get circumcised. That's a dick look operation.
It must be a shortage of dick. I hear how much pussy I'm getting.
Well, that's always the story, is that 80% of the women are dating 20% of the men that's that's the real story of the ratio that's the reality 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating or excuse me yeah 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating 20% of the men always so that's why there's so many incels in this world so many ratios so many dudes just jerking off and playing because nobody wants them. Yes.
And that's a self-fulfilling prophecy because if you keep jerking off and playing video games, you're never going to succeed in life. Yeah, the pressure.
So no one's ever going to look at you like, hmm. Yeah, you're never going to get the opportunity.
Yeah, exactly. I'm glad I'm not bored in this era.
Yeah. This is a terrifying era to navigate for kids.
Yeah, it was really kids. Also, the ability to just send a dick picture

when you're 15,

that's crazy.

Yeah.

You can just pop it out.

Yeah, that's not...

Yes.

That's too much responsibility

for a young man

that's like giving a young man

a nuclear weapon.

He can't handle that.

Yeah.

That's too much movie.

That's way too much. That's way too much.
And then they all got porn now, which is even crazier. It's too available nowadays.
Too much to have the finger of these kids. Yeah, instantaneously.
Not just porn, but murder. Man, me and my friend Tom Segura.
Do you know Tom Segura? I heard of his name. He's hilarious.
You need to do his show. He would have you on.
Yeah. Your mom's house.
It's a great podcast. It's a huge podcast.
But he and I send each other every day the worst shit we could find on the internet. Wow.
The worst shit that comes across my Instagram feed, I send it to Tom. It's every day.
It's someone getting murdered. The worst shit out of the day.
Some craziness on there, right? It's always some shit like, wow. And it's not one time a day either.
It's all a day, right? It's like multiple times a day

where it's traumatizing each other.

It's like, what the hell is this?

Today was a dude

who crashed his motorcycle

right into a gas truck.

This dude just rode his motorcycle.

The bike explodes,

catches on fire.

The tank explodes.

The dude gets cooked.

Damn.

Yeah.

He just went fried turkey

on the middle of the street.

Just one day he's riding his motorcycle enjoying freedom.

And then a second later, boom.

I've seen every horrible video that's on the internet.

Every one of them.

That's crazy.

That's fucking ludicrous.

The internet is undefeated, but it is our shit.

Like, we run the internet.

Yes.

It's open. Yeah.
That's the beautiful thing. Like, you get these memes.
I don't even know who's making them, and they're hilarious. Someone's texting them to you.
All the time. I see one.
I see one today. I posted it.
It was like, the wrestling guy has no condoms, and then Elon Musk. I was like, I don't like condoms either so i could have put my name yeah elon musk has how many kids now that we know of i knew he was getting so much pussy i thought elon musk was a calm guy uh i wouldn't say he's calm i mean i think it's going back to like the kanye ferrari engine's the same kind of thing.
It's just in a different realm.

That's what he is with like rocket science and car design and satellites.

Spaceship in the pussy.

Exactly.

Also, like when you are literally the richest man in the world,

it just comes to you, right?

What are his DMs like?

His DM jumping out the gym.

Full of titties.

His DMs must be full of titties. Full of titties, huh? Back shots everywhere.
Full of everything. Everything.
Squats and fingers. Sucking on bananas.
His DMs must be wild. He's got a movie theater in his DM.
There's girls just thinking, what's the move? What's the right thing to send him? You know Sean Kingston?

My God loves you.

No.

He's calling right now.

You never met Sean Kingston?

He's calling me right now because he loves you.

Tell him what's up.

Yo, Sean.

What's up, Sean?

What's going on, my man?

How you doing?

I'm a huge fan, man.

We got to do an interview, man.

That's my brother you got up there, man.

Tony O'Brien is my brother, man.

He loves you.

All right, man.

Well, cool.

That sounds great.

I love him, man. I would love to go up there.
What up what's up baby we're here with joe right now we're live right now you live right now sean yeah you're loud you're loud it's the best podcast i go to sleep watching this man talk so many this man got knowledge of a man listen joe Thank you, sir. Appreciate you, man.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Love you, brother. Call you after, brother.
Yeah, everyone's excited. I'm here.
Even Theo Vaughn told me to play some Trick Daddy. Oh, okay.
Everyone loves you, Joe. Theo's the best.
Theo's the man, too. I love that dude.
Yeah, he's the best. He's so unique.
Yeah, he's different. I don't know anybody like him.
Swaggy, cool, calm. Yeah.
Got the mullet going. He's swaggy.
And just the way he talks. Yeah, he's funny.
Yeah, he got the country. Theo and I went to dinner the other night, and we're sitting at the table eating dinner for an hour and a half.
We're just nonstop crying, laughing. Just crying, laughing.
At the of like my sides hurt when we got up from the table i was like oh my god that was so much fun so having friends like that is the best because like everywhere you go it's like you have a personal show yeah it's always entertaining yeah we're just always fucking around and having fun what about shane gillis he's the best he's the best he's the best hilarious yeah we're just hanging out tuesday night yeah yeah shane's awesome he loves you too yeah that's my heart yeah all my comedian friends love you they're all sharing your shit all the time i love those guys yeah he was excited when he got cracker of the year too he's amazing he's killing it too he is he's killing it he's so funny man yeah and he's such a good guy like He's such a sweetheart. You can just see by a smile.
100%. Just sweetheart of a guy.
And I'm just glad there's more people like that in the world. Yeah, we need more people like that, like him.
In the world that's just doing what they love, giving back comedy, making people light up. Yeah, and spreading fun.
Again, back to the same thing that you do. Fun.
Yeah. Fun.
People enjoy themselves again. You know, this VR, natural selves.
Make the uncomfortable a little comfortable and a little fun. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, especially in today's era of everybody.
We're getting past the days where everything was like tight and everybody was going crazy. And I think thingsening up and look thank thanks to Elon buying X that had a huge impact because I think people

Realize that it wasn't just them that was thinking things had gone too far

It was most people but they didn't have a way to express themselves because if they said it they got attacked

No one wanted to ruin what they built up for a couple seconds and what they say exactly It takes so long to build your shit. Yeah, like we just showed.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
You lose everything. You lose everything for one moment.
Yeah, so you're sitting there, maybe you got a couple of drinks in you, and you're like, you know, I got to fucking say something. Someone needs to be there to grab your hand.
Yeah, calm that shit down. Don't ruin everything.
Don't do it. Don't do it.
Don't take yourself out of the game. But I think now, if you do that, people go, yeah! I'm glad you said that, because I was thinking the same thing.
Yeah, exactly. Now it's different, because people feel like they can express themselves, which is the real danger of censorship.
Even if you don't agree with what someone is saying, you've got to let them say it, because if you don't, someone's going to limit what you say. And that's just the nature of free speech.
Exactly. I feel like we all have the right to own opinion.
No matter if it's right or wrong, it's just your opinion. We 100%.
Look, you don't have to go to your Twitter page. You don't have to go to my Twitter page.
You don't have to listen to this podcast. Yeah, it's your option.
It's your freedom. It's your option, but you should have that option.
Yes. And you should have the option to express yourself.
You should also have the option option to say things and if you think that it was misconstrued do what he did and lay it all out

This is how I really feel this is my my actual feelings

And I feel like if you read that he should have been completely forgiven the idea that they traded him after that

Yeah, that's disgusting because that's also

Censorship because now you're encouraging other people to keep their mouth shut. Exactly.
Showing them the rules of what is going to, the aftermath of what's going to come if you do that. 100%.
So I was grateful that we were in better times and things getting better. Yeah.
People were able to express themselves more on the X app. And thanks to Elon Musk for giving us that good, you know, freedom of speech speech I think the country's moving in a good direction as long as we can avoid this fucking war as long as we can avoid war and war with China and war with Russia and everybody else if we can just avoid that I think we're gonna be okay we just gotta make it through with some weird shit yes and UFOs ands.
And UFOs. You saw those UFOs?

Yeah, man.

They're everywhere.

I don't know.

I don't know what to think.

Some days I think they're all,

we're being visited

and some days I think

it's all the government.

It's all bullshit.

It's all drones.

Some tech, maybe some.

What do you think it is?

Maybe we need to just

call the men in black.

See if they know.

The men in black,

I think, are real. I think that's government agents that come visit you after you've had some sort of an experience maybe i think that's what it is i mean there's always been these stories of men in black coming to visit people after they've had encounters yeah i mean it makes sense if you're yapping about some shit especially if it's actually some government shit that they're working on and you know, some two men in suits come up and when you see two men show up in a Cadillac in suits, you automatically assume they're serious people.
Some serious people. They get out with black suits, black ties, and they look at you and they tell you, hey, Antonio, we'd like to talk to you about your encounter.
And then you're like, oh shit, I'm in trouble. And then they're doing some hypnosis on you and some mind control shit, you know, and bringing you in a room.
And then you leave. You don't know.
What the fuck happened? What happened? Antonio got visited by the men in black. That's what I think the men in black is.
I think it's government agents investigating. Government agents investigators coming through.
It's got to be. Or if there's like a legitimate UFO sighting, like something legitimately that the government doesn't know what the fuck it is.
think then also they would send people who are authority figures what better authority figure than a man in a suit. Yeah, you know, yeah Random as fuck.
Yeah, it will Smith men in black wearing a suit. I don't think they really can erase your memory But I do think that they probably use mind control on you.

They probably hypnotize you.

They probably manipulate the way you think,

especially if you're under stress, if you're nervous,

like you think you could be in trouble, like something's going on.

It gets you up.

Yeah.

I remember Tony Robbins kind of did that to me one time.

He did it to you?

Yeah, you know Tony Robbins?

What did he do?

He did that kind of hypnosis me a little bit.

Really? Yeah. How did he do it? He got to like just sink some stuff in my spirit.
Just like, yo, AB, go win the Super Bowl. See yourself like this.
Oh, really? Yeah. Tony Robbins, really amazing.
I met him through Tom Brady. Oh, really? Writing book all the time.
Does Tom Brady use him too? Yeah. So he like does like mind coaching for you? Yeah.
I put you right to sleep everything really yeah so what how does it explain it to me like lay it out how does it kind of like you know i mean close your eyes you just say a lot of stuff and just bring it in just kind of put in your spirit you know tony robbins sure famous bro i read his books when i was uh 21 years old in 1988 i was reading his book when i was trying to like figure out how to make it in comedy i got a uh it was like a cassette thing like you have a bunch of cassettes and there's like each one has like work books that you're supposed to like fill out stuff and goals and all these different things it's he's got like legit. Yeah, I want to see him in Boca Raton maybe, like, 2020, right before I got with Tampa Bay.
He was like, yo, you're going to win the Super Bowl, man. You're going to make a big catch.
See yourself. Really? Just lock it in in my spirit.
Just like, it's pretty cool, man. Shout out to Tony Robbins for doing that.
I think there's something something to that He got a real good manifestation And just Downloading a program in your body Just for just seeing yourself at that place It was another level I think that shit works I think there's limitations to it I don't think you could take a sloppy accountant And say you're gonna beat Mike Tyson You know what I'm saying He can't just do that shit It doesn't work like that But I think if you're going to beat Mike Tyson. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can't just do that shit.
It doesn't work like that.

It doesn't work like that.

But I think if you're already talented

and you're already in the game

and you could put some things in your mind

and you can make some things happen.

I think there's a little bit of something to that.

But it's not everything.

It's like, that's why,

did you ever see that movie The Secret?

Of course, that's a nice book too. Yeah.
So The Secret, I think. It's about some of those things, right? It's about one aspect of it.
But they concentrate too much on the one aspect. Yeah.
The one aspect is the visualization, which I think is an aspect. Like, imagining, speaking it into being, that's one aspect.
But there's a lot of other shit, too. A lot of aspects, yeah.
There's talent. There's hard work.
There's good coaching. There's discipline.
There's discipline. Discipline is probably the most important.
Yeah, the most important. As a football player, you must have felt like that, right? Of course.
Discipline is the way you emanate success. Yes.
You go on the road trips and you're messing with girls. Not getting sleep.
Yeah, not getting sleep, not eating the right foods. Exactly.
Not making your workouts and hitting those. Yep.
Studying that film. Discipline the most important.
It's so important for everything in life. So to think that the secret is the only thing, you just have to think around and visualize it.
It's not the only thing no it's it's an aspect that i think is real but the problem is people

put so much emphasis on it that it becomes bullshit it becomes like woo woo they don't

think it's real but it is it is an aspect you know mike tyson used to get hypnotized

gotta hypnotize yourself i feel like it just make your vision a part of your spirit

anytime you know cause I feel like

you can write stuff down

write

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a

I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm like it just make your vision a part of your spirit. Anytime, you know, because I feel like you can write stuff down, write affirmations, affirmations.
You can set goals, but to meditate on them and make them a part of your spirit, like, it's different. Yeah, to deeply think about them and embed them in your consciousness.
Yeah. Make them a part of you.

Yeah.

And then do all the work that's required to get yourself to. And then do all the little things.

Yeah.

You got to do all that shit too so that it can manifest.

Everything come together.

Yeah.

So that it can happen.

Yeah.

And even then it might not happen.

Yeah.

Like you might not have done it right.

You maybe need more work.

You got to put it all together again.

Maybe you need more discipline.

Yeah.

Maybe you need more hard work.

Maybe you need better coaching. But it's an aspect of success in life you know and i think with everything with being a good parent with being a good father with being a good husband with being a good friend with being a good employee a good boss like with everything like everything you do you have to like have a mindset of what you're trying to accomplish.
Absolutely. A vision.
And you got to make it a part of you. Not just writing down.
Yeah. Just making every aspect, every step.
If you're going to have success, a part of you. How many times did you do that with Tony Robbins? I did it like three times.
Yeah? Yeah. We did his house in Boca Raton.
Did the first time freak you out? Because the first time was probably the weirdest one. The first time was a little weird, but then when I went to sleep and woke up, I'm like, dang, I feel refreshed.
I feel like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I got some new feelings in myself. Because I feel like at that point I was going through stuff in the NFL and I was kind of like was pissed off because I kind of knew like, man, these guys could just get you out your spot whenever you want.
But it was just like, I finally realized that, you know what? It's not even about me being right in the situation. It's about just being happy.
What made me happy in a situation instead of just focusing on, man, I'm right, man. They did this.
I was right. Just let it go and be happy.
Well, for a player, the best revenge is to be undeniable. Yes.
Right? People could talk all that shit, but when you're undeniable, they got to give it up. They got to deal with it.
They got to give it up. That's the best revenge.
Exactly. And I think that's probably the case in everything in life, is to be undeniable.
If you're undeniable, everybody's got to shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah.
They all got to shut the fuck up. And if they don't shut the fuck up, they look foolish.
Yeah. Not like idiots.
Yeah. Not like a fool, yeah.
Just talking for no reason because you know what happened. Exactly.
You know? He's just a hater right now. Oh, there's so many haters.
Yeah. There's so many haters.
You got to love your ops. Yeah.
I feel like haters make you go harder. They make you work harder.
Yeah, they do. They bring the best out of you Oh, yeah They do haters are good fat shaming works Yeah, all that stuff like haters like that the the anger that jealousy mean shit like that motivates people Yeah, so always reciprocated never too much.
You just don't want too much You know it's like overkill, but just a little tab You get a little bit of snake venom every day, you get immune to snake venom. Yeah.

Yeah.

But if you get a big dose, it'll fucking kill you.

Yeah, take you out the game.

Yeah, don't be like reading all your hate all day long.

That's not good for you either.

But a few haters... A little motivation to...

Let's you know you're on the right track.

Yeah.

Let's you know your transactor.

Yeah, you want a few haters.

If you don't have haters, it means you're not doing good enough to get haters. Yeah, me.
Everybody who's doing great gets haters. Some haters are hilarious, though.
Some haters are so dumb. It's like you wonder if they're real people.
Like, for fighters, it's my favorite. Like, oh, he's a pussy.
Like, what are you talking about? That man is literally a professional fighter, and you're calling him a pussy? That's one of the craziest things i've ever heard every fighter thinks every other fighter but they do yeah they think they're bitches yeah well that's the thing about alpha males they think they're the only one that's an alpha male they don't think there's someone out there exactly like them exactly and maybe a little faster maybe a little stronger maybe balls a little bigger yeah maybe Yeah, maybe hands a little bigger, jaws a little wider.

See that little stronger. Maybe balls a little bigger.
Yeah, maybe some more testosterone. Yeah, maybe hands a little bigger, jaws a little wider.
See how that little edge allows them to survive the firefight. Yeah.
How much UFC do you watch? I watch UFC every Saturday. Do you really? I love Bone Jones.
I love fighting. I feel like if I wasn't a player, I probably would have gotten into some sort of fighting.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Did you ever do any martial arts at all?

No, when I was little,

my mom signed me up for karate.

Yeah.

Do a little jujitsu.

Oh, cool.

Okay.

Yeah.

But you never, like, really got serious with it?

No, a couple of years.

That'd be a fun hobby for you. Yeah.

I like training and working out with it, grappling, wrestling.

Jujitsu is what I meant, because that way you don't get hit. I stopped sparring when I was like 27.
Yeah, little hits to the heads right? It's just, they count. Hits to the heads of the gym counts.
They all count. All those little dinks.
They all count. Bang.
Yeah. It all, like.
It's just going to add up. It all adds up to some weird brain shit.
It doesn't quite work right. But this weekend's a big one, man.
Pereira and Ankulaev. That's a big, yeah.
Pereira been kicking ass, too. He lost the last one, though, right? He's ready to bounce back.
No, no, he won. The last time he lost was against Israel Adesanya.

That was four fights ago.

Adesanya began his ass

with a little bit, right?

He's been fighting too much.

He fight like back to back to back.

Well, he took a lot of time off,

but, you know,

he lost to Imovov,

who's very, very good.

And he lost to Drekas Duplicy,

who's the champion before that.

But he was winning that fight,

but he got caught

and then he got strangled.

You know, I mean, it's hard to stay on top, man. It's hard to stay on top.
And when he was in his prime, when he was dominating the division, he was the fucking man. He was going crazy.
It's not like he's lost his skills, man. It's just this is a tough fucking sport.
It's a tough fucking sport. And the sport does not rest.
The sport keeps evolving.

Everybody's coming.

These guys coming up every year.

They're better.

Every year they're more complete.

There's no one-dimensional fighters anymore.

They can all do everything.

All these guys can just freaking bang out.

They can do everything.

The best guys today are all super multifaceted.

They all can do everything. But then you have guys like Pereira, who's really a specialist.
He's a kickboxing specialist. Yeah, he's fire.
Do you ever watch him kickbox? No, he's crazy. I was a giant fan of his before he ever got to the UFC.
I was telling everybody about him. I'm like, if this guy gets to MMA, we got fucking problems.
He got problems. That guy, he just has to touch you once.
Shit's going down. He's so different than anybody else in the division.
Like, he knocks everybody out. Everybody hits hard.
They all hit hard. But he putting shit down.
But that fucking dude hits hard, hard. Hard, hard.
You know they have that punch machine? Oh, yeah. You can see the power? What's his power? 190.
Oh, shit. Francis Ngannou had like 130.

Oh, yeah.

He got punch power.

He's got more power than Ngannou.

That's crazy.

I mean, I can't even believe it.

I want to give Francis a second chance at it.

I feel like he wasn't swinging hard enough.

I feel like if he knows that Pereira got one night.

He's so big, right?

He would go a little harder.

He's so much bigger.

I mean, Francis is like 270 natural.

270 pounds natural. Like a hog walk.
Yeah, just giant. Massive.
And I feel like he could probably punch harder than he did. I feel like if he knew that Pereira was going to break that record, give him a second crack at it.
Yeah, he'd probably go a little harder. He'd probably punch it a little more hip action.
Yeah, a lot more. Yeah, just fucking.
You know, but now, I think Pereira has the hardest. See if you can find that

video. It's crazy to watch.

He even does it with his

right hand, which is not his power punch.

His power punch is his left hook.

His left hook is what he knocks out everybody

with. But it might be

that his left hook is faster

and it's a better weapon because it's in the front

and his right hand is more powerful

but he just doesn't land it as often that way.

Did you find it?

It's crazy.

Did you hear the thud?

Put your headphones on real quick. Listen to this.

Oh, you didn't get it yet?

Okay.

You got it?

Okay, here we go. There it is.

Okay, here we go.

Put them on.

No, it's up there.

What do you mean?

X.com full video.

Retry.

Yeah, it's up there.

Oh, it disappeared?

Yeah.

Here it is.

That's not it.

That's not it?

It's just a picture.

Oh, the video's got to be on there.

I just, yeah, you want to give me something?

Okay, okay.

Is that it?

Yeah, here it is.

Okay, give me some volume.

Oh, my God.

191, watch this, check this out.

Oh.

Oh, my gosh.

Bro. Bro.
Bro, bro, that is That's an insane Amount of power The hardest I've ever kicked it The hardest I've ever kicked it with legs Kicks are way harder The hardest I've ever kicked it was like 152. and he punching 170.
191.

191 with a punch it's insane his power is just yeah he's like from god it's it's like a it's a crazy gift it's it's different than everybody's power yeah i never seen the kid he beat up the The other guy, Adesanya.

Adesanya?

Yeah, he put him down.

Well, he beat Adesanya in the first fight.

Adesanya. Adesanya? Yeah, he put him down.
Well, he beat Adesanya in the first fight. Adesanya knocked him out in the second fight in the UFC.
Then he came back and beat him, right? No, they didn't fight again. The third one.
They never fought a third time. They fought before in kickboxing.
They fought twice more, twice before that in kickboxing. One time, Israel lost a decision that I think he should have won.
The second time, Pereira knocked him out. And then the third time, Pereira knocked him out in the UFC.
And then the fourth time, Izzy knocked him out. Yeah, that's when he did the fail with his son, right? He acted like he fell with his son.
Roll the arrows out. Yeah, he went crazy.
He went crazy. Yeah, that was awesome.
But that's a big fight this weekend. I'm pumped.
Uncle I have is good, man.

That guy's really good.

He's the number one contender. Fight night?

How excited you get on fight night?

Very excited.

Have you ever been to one live?

I think I've been to one live in Florida.

Bro, you should come this weekend.

Come on, where is it?

Vegas.

Come on, let's go.

I'll hook it up.

Come on.

I'll get you tickets.

I'm coming to Vegas this weekend.

Let's go.

I got you hooked up.

I got you hooked up.

That's it. Thanks, Joe, baby.
Let's go. I'll take care of it.
I'll text the UFC as soon as we get out of here. Yeah, you'll love it.
You'll love it. Live is like nothing else, man.
It's crazy. Especially in Vegas.
Well, Vegas is another level. Oh, yeah.
I don't think I've been to a live UFC in Vegas. The Vegas ones are always huge, and this is a big one.
T-Mobile sold out. Oh, shit.
You know, world title fight, main event, light heavyweight heavyweight title i mean and the undercard's banging the undercard's filled with fights like killer fights in the undercard there's like six or seven fights that i'm like oh side of seat out right oh yeah man yeah let's go yeah fight night in vegas is amazing and then they have slap fight talk aboutTE SPN. Slap fight is on Friday night.
That should be on CTE SPN. You should cover slap fight.
I would love to cover slap fight. That is hilarious.
Bro. They fighting on site.
Yeah. Smackdown.
Dudes are getting just knocked into another dimension with a slap. It's so crazy.

Smack him in Pakistan.

It's so crazy to watch.

I just don't understand why people are signing up for that.

Smack game.

Because the thing about fighting is you're trying to not get hit.

Like if the punches are coming, you're trying to turn away.

You're trying to move.

You're getting your head off center line.

If you're slapping, you're 100% going to get hit. you just have to sit there and take it like yeah you gotta eat that oh no and every time full blast every time you're standing still yeah he's just waiting on him to come yeah that's hilarious it's it's so crazy dana white keeps trying to get me to come see it I'm like okay I'll go I'll go to one of these But it's just so nuts Nah that smack is another level Yeah Yeah Just get a smack Slap knockout I'm surprised like pro football players haven't signed up for that Like some dudes just want to do something yeah wild fellas that want to do something smack just go just go smack somebody yeah smack the problem is that's crazy i get what do you do you like flip a coin to see who gets to slap get the first slap because that's somebody that's the thing like somebody has to hit you first that's a huge disadvantage because if you get slapped, you ain't gonna get the get back.
Exactly. I mean, I don't even know how it works.
Like, can you get really rocked and then they'll let you get slapped again? I feel like... Like, if you get super rocked, like your legs give out...
Now you're done. ...and barely get up...
Are you done? If you go down, are you done? Yeah, you've done. What are the rules? Your slap ain't working for shit.
Aren't you supposed to hold something in your hand? I have 30 seconds. You have 30 seconds to shake back? That's a long time to recover.
30 seconds is a long time to recover. Yeah, that's a little, yeah.
Oh, if you fall? Yeah, there are rules. Oh, so if you get knocked down, it's over? Yeah, you smacked out.
What's next? Like, when are we going to have gladiator fights? Well, they already do that in other countries. People put on armor and fight with swords and shit.
Kill each other? They don't kill each other, but they beat the fuck out of each other with swords and shields and shit. One dude was beating this dude in the head with a shield.
I was like, what are we doing? 60 seconds to recover. You get a minute to recover, like a timeout.
See, that's the good thing about MMA is that you don't get chances to recover. So you don't get to get knocked out again.
Because a lot of these times guys get dropped and then they get a standing A count. Like in boxing, that's particularly dangerous.
You get a standing A count. They clean off your gloves.
Are you okay? You're like, yeah, come forward. And then you're slowly getting your shit back together.
But you're not back yet. You're still.
You're just fighting to get back. You're still out of it.
You're still out of it. Still walkie.
And you're still like you don't know exactly what's going on. You're just like, shit, what happened? And then more part of it just boom.
That kitchen sink hit you. Whereas in MMA, the fight would have already been stopped.
Yeah, this guy's done. But then the other side of it is in boxing, guys go down, flash knockdown, get back up.
They're okay. They brush their gloves off and then they go back to fighting And they're alright You know? Do you watch boxing at all? I love boxing Did you see the Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach fight? Yeah, that was trash Well, I thought it was a good fight Great fight, but I just championed God Taking a knee, talking about greasing his hair Yeah, that was crazy I'm like, yo, how are you just in the middle of the fight just go wipe your face?

Also, here's the deal.

If you take a knee, that's a knockdown.

That's a knockdown.

It's a track two, right?

You got hit with a jab.

Yeah.

You took a knee.

And then you walked off.

Exactly.

That is a knockdown.

So I think they're reviewing that right now.

No, that guy should have lost maybe.

Well, I feel like if they do review it and they do judge it as a knockdown, which it was knockdown to everybody now you take a knee that's a knockdown if you walk off and they will probably give it to lamont a very interesting rule they have a power slap that kind of talks about what you guys are just discussing okay the promoter may but is not obligated to incorporate the following rule for any event for any specific category matches such as title matches a participant was the first defender in round one and did not elect such position and b there is a ko or tko finish of such participant in round one then after the referee declares a finish a clock of two minutes begins during this time the defender is giving two minutes to recover and be examined by the supervising physician. If the supervising physician, in consultation with the referee, determines that the defender has established their fitness to continue and is without medical health risk for purposes of delivering one strike to the opposing participant within such two-minute period and not receiving any further strikes as a defender, then the referee will announce the commencement of the redemption round and will instruct the striker to complete one permitted slap of their opponent.
If the return strike results in a KO or TKO finish of their opponent, the match is declared a draw. If the return strike has any other result, the match result stands.
That's crazy. So you can get KO'd,

you get finished, they give you two minutes to come back,

and if you could knock that guy out,

then it's a draw. They also haven't used the

rule yet. So you go knockout for knockout.

Boy, that rule looks like it's written

by lawyers, doesn't it? Doesn't that rule

look written by lawyers? So, find

out what's happening, because I think they were going to announce

something today about Lamont Roach

Gervonta Davis' decision on the knockdown. It was a very good fight, though.
Lamont Roach is very good. I was really impressed because Tank is nasty.
Tank is so fucking powerful. He's so vicious.
His one-punch power at 135 is like nobody else's in the division. the way he starches people is crazy He gets so much torque and power into his punches and he's so fastly he covers ground and black his uppercuts They're just fucking Devastating so like for Lamont Roach not just to survive But you know some damage to do damage and put him on a knee basically bring it to a draw.
Which if they do change this because of that knee, it becomes a victory. That's I want it.
I think it should be a victory for him. And I think they should do a rematch.
100%. It's everybody saw it.
You can't get around what everybody saw. Look, it wasn't a legit knockdown like he hurt Tank.
Tank did have have some shit in his eyes But what are you doing putting shit in your hair when you have a world title fight? That's crazy No, I want to hear about it in the middle of a fight day. No one cares if the fly fly by drop the ball, bro Drop the damn ball.
We don't care if a fly flew by your helmet or your eyes. Yeah, nobody gives a fuck Yeah, you can't be a championship fighter and taking a knee and putting on those type of performances.
Also, what are they putting in his hair? That when he's sweating, it's dripping into his eyes. Like, what is that shit? Yeah.
Bro, shake your head. That's no way, right? Yeah, exactly.
Shake your fucking head. Who cares? Don't be pretty, boy.
You better go get this fight. Get those fucking braids out of there.
You don't need those. Yeah.
He's a good-looking guy. He doesn't need all that crazy braids and shit.
It makes a rematch very exciting, though. And I think that's great for Gervonta because other than Shakur, who's the other major star, and then Lomachenko, if he decides to fight again.
But other than that, there's not a lot of compelling... So now this

Lamont Roach fight becomes like the most

compelling fight in the division.

For him. That would be pretty cool.

What? I don't know if this is the

official response. This is wild.

What is that? What?

This was posted a day ago, I guess.

During the round in question,

the following the commission's request for

the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time to review.

Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued.

Yeah, I did see that.

I thought that was what the referee had.

The instant replay, there was a technical issue.

When they went to the corner, right after the knockdown, they tried to go to an instant replay and it wasn't available.

And so they said, what do we do here?

And the referee wanted to start the fight again.

They let the referee start the fight again.

I thought this was saying they couldn't review this because of... Oh, you mean after?

No, no, no.

It was in the moment.

Only in the moment.

They were saying they couldn't get a tape, so there's...

No, you couldn't do that.

That would be ridiculous.

Oh, we still can't find it.

Sorry.

It's like Epstein's client list. Oh, can't find it.
Looking for it. Trying to help, guys.
Doing our best. Yeah.
No, obviously everybody's seen it. We've all seen it online.
I saw it during the fight. I didn't even know the fight was going on.
My friend Jamar texted me, you watching this Davis fight? I'm like, oh, shit, I forgot. And I caught it in the 12th round.
Then I went back and watched the whole thing the day it was an amazing fight amazing fight it was a lot of energy I feel like people all I feel like people used to tank just knocking people out early in the round so to see him go to the deep end 12th round seeing that both of the guys was damaging each other and putting on a good fight it was pretty it was a very good fight it was an amazing fight very competitive fight for a guy who doesn't have competitive fights.

Because Givenchy just steamrolls.

He's undefeated.

Steamrolls everybody.

And everybody's scared of him.

And Lamont was not scared of him.

But they have fought in the amateurs before.

I think they fought twice in the amateurs.

But Lamont's a new star.

That guy's super, super legit.

Super legit and very skillful.

It wasn't just that, like, you know, like,

Gervonta didn't show up or Gervonta wasn't at his best.

No, like, Lamont fought a fantastic fight.

You know what I'm excited for, man?

Terrence Crawford and Canelo.

That's the one.

Oh, that's going to be a big one.

That's the one.

That's a huge fight.

That's the one.

That's the one.

A lot of people think Terrence is too small.

He weighed himself the other day.

He was on the one. That's going to be a big one.
That's the one. That's a huge fight.
That's the one. That's the one.
A lot of people think Terrence is too small. He weighed himself the other day.
He was 185 pounds. He just looked scrawny in the ring.
He got at 140? 150? Well, he just won the 154 pound title. Before that, he was fighting at welterweight, which is 147.
It's not like like he doesn't have time to thicken up a little bit. And if he's walking around at 185, that means he probably cuts a considerable amount of weight to get down to 54.
100%. But I think he's getting thicker.
And he was deadlifting 450 pounds the other day. You like deadlifts? I think they can fuck your back up.
Them shit is trash, bro. You do a deadlift, you're just fucking your back up.
You can fuck your back up. Yeah, like, it's no, like, I don't know who made up do deadlifts.
That's the worst shit you could ever do. Like, for what, though? Like, what is it? You're never going to do that motion and fight it? And what is it supposed to make your back strong? It's supposed to make your overall chain strong.
It's one of the best exercises to make your overall chain strong but because you're picking up the the the bar off the ground and there's already gravity right and a lot of stress on that lower back super stress on your lower back your knees you gotta do it Robert Oberst you know he is he's uh he came he did the podcast once he's a professional strong man Like one of the biggest motherfuckers You'll ever see Like a house Just like this big He's like Don't do deadlifts Never do deadlifts It's gonna ruin your back Your knees Everything You hurt yourself Yeah There's no position You're gonna put yourself in fighting That gonna make you bend over like that A lot of guys do them though It's the worst thing you could ever do I've heard people say That if you do them correctly they could decompress your back and i'm like you could do a lot of more exercises for your back but i'm like explain how explain how it can ever decompress your back you're pounding your back you're picking up weights no matter what you do as you're lifting even if you're like fully extending and stretching your body forward not doing that you're you're compressing your back when you have that enormous amount of weight. There's no way you're not compressing your back.
You've got to compress your back. What about lighter deadlifts? What about deadlifts just like for reps? Deadlifts is trash, man.
You want to do leg exercise, work your hamstring, glutes, and do cap raises or something else. Do you do Nordic curls? Do you ever do those? Nordic curls is the best.
You do those? For your hamstrings, yeah. Trem yeah.
Tremendous for your hamstrings. Isolate your hams right away.
Yeah, yeah. If you want to work your leg and lower back, do those, Jack.
The first time I did, I was like, what? I couldn't do one. I was like, this is crazy.
Isolate your hamstring right away. It's no cheating.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no cheating.
No cheating. All hamstrings.
All hams. Such a great exercise just to develop strength around your knees, too.
Yeah, best isolation. Yeah.
For ha. So when you're in the NFL, like what is the strength and conditioning program like for a receiver? Like do they tailor your strength and conditioning routines depending upon what position you play? Absolutely.
So like for a guy like you, you obviously have to stay fast. You got to be quick and twitchy.
I feel like. Twitchy.
And you got to, yeah, twitchy meaning you explosive to get out. Yeah, you got to be elusive just in your body movement.
But you want to have a lot of strength, too. Just enough because you're going to get hit, push around in your shoulders and your legs and your glutes.
So what kind of stuff do they have you do? So many launches, single launches, explosive launches when you're driving up, screen curls uh bench press dumbbells single arms a lot of core rotations you know what i mean a lot of single leg calves a lot of ankle work do they have you do plyos for sure plyos single leg jumps two leg jumps explosive sideway linear jumps and when they um make a program for they lay out, like, what the progress they're looking to achieve? Like, how do they do, like, a program for a guy like you? See, the NFL, usually, that just really put, I mean, it's a team made up of 50 players, 60 players. So sometimes the weight room usually just have, usually, specific sheets that, you know, guys follow with the training.
But the more smarter you are, the more intuitive you are as a player individually, you know, you need to, for me, the little things that made me the difference, the working on little stuff, like your arch. You may not think your arch is important muscle or how to work.
Arch of your foot? Arch of your foot, yeah. Really? Yeah.
You know, gripping the towels with your big toe, grabbing the towel, working the arch, making your big toe go over here. Because your arch is super important, being a receiver.
Really? I never thought about that. So you do like foot strengthening exercises.
Even your big toes. You run it in the game and your big toe just give out.
Right. That happens to guys, right? Yeah.
Turf toe. Turf toe, exactly.
So it's like the little exercise that could preeminate your feet from just being healthy you know i mean your arch your big toe because that's the first thing that hit the ground and guys don't really consider these things when they just want to work the big exercise muscles that you know but it starts from the ground up your feet yeah arches and your big toe could be good and strong. It's the first thing they're going to hit.
Nick Kurson's a famous strength and conditioning guy in the MMA world. And that was what he told me.
He said foot strength is the number one flaw that a lot of people have. Exactly, because they don't feel like that muscle or that thing that we work out.
They think shoulders, you know, the big muscles. So it's all about the little stuff that preeminate your success, man.
You're a receiver. You know you're going to have to get off the ball.
You're going to have to run and cut, stop. So the more important thing, you can get rid of your feet.
That's going to be the first thing to hit the ground. So can you explain to me what you're doing with your toes and a towel? So let's say if it's a towel, like, you know, when you run, you got the ball of your feet.
Right. Ball of your feet hit first.
Right. And then you grip.
Right. Ball of your feet, then you grip the towel.
Right. Ball of your feet hit and grip.
so you ball of your feet then you grip the towel ball of feet hit then grip

so you're working that arch and you're working on

just the grip of your toes

and are you just holding the towel with your hands

like how are you doing the towel

you put the towel on the ground

have you done this Jamie?

yeah I do it all the time

how come you never told me

this is the best right there

that work your arches of your feet

that little exercise right there Joe

Thank you. How come you never told me? Wow.
Yeah, this is the best right there. That work, your arches are your feet.
That little exercise right there, Joe, that would make a tremendous difference in your feet. Wow.
I'm going to do that tomorrow. People know the difference.
How many reps do you do? I feel like you could go two minutes, just burn out. I just do it.
You just do it until you burn out. Yeah, you're going to feel the burn right away.
Wow. And then does it suck to walk afterwards? I, I feel really good to walk.
You're going to tell the difference between your feet right away. Wow.
I jump rope. I feel like that's really good for your feet.
Really good, yeah. Yeah.
But this is the maintenance of your feet with just a low exercise. Yeah, that seems like a really smart one.
Yeah, this is physical therapy, one of the best exercises you could do. What happens when you get too good at the towel? Do you move up to like rug yeah you go single leg now you go single leg one leg grip oh oh so like standing on one leg and grip yeah and then so you're balancing and then gripping at the same time stack it up you know i mean the grips to the balance oh i like it active on it while gripping I like it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's all about your wills, man.

You know what I just started incorporating into my workouts like over the last few months that i never did before is rotational exercises and i feel like an asshole right i have a a reoccurring um thing that i got on my lower back that's like um i i think it's really it's a bunch of different things but i think mostly it's 10 to 9 it's mostly overuse because it would start to hurt and i would just ignore it and keep doing it i got it from archery where it just started flaring up because it's like when i'm uh shooting the bow the bow is 80 pounds to pull back and i do it 150 times a day So that's like 150 rows with 80 pounds. So doing that all the time, my lower back and stabilizing, it started to flare up.
And I'm an idiot. So I was like, don't be a pussy.
Just keep going. Power through.
And in power through and it got inflamed. And it's taken a few months for it to to get better But one of the best ways it got better was rotational exercises, you know, like those with a bar where you like Twisted like that those twit with cables like man exercises.
Oh, it's like that's Movement it it uh it works so well with athletics. Well for me with martial arts It works so well and.
And I'm like, why wasn't I doing that before? Like, I would just do linear stuff, like chin-ups, push-ups, dips, squats, all that other basic shit. But when I started doing twisting things, I'm like, man.
And then I feel like I have more power now with things. More range and ability, right? Yes, I have more strength in my lower back.
So for kicking, it's everything in there.

Like that ability to whip.

And I'm like, why wasn't I doing this forever?

It's kind of crazy that it took me getting injured before I started doing it.

That's how it always happens.

You know what my favorite one is?

When you're sitting, like I sit on a mat with my feet up in the air,

and then I take a 50-pound kettlebell and I keep my feet up. And I rotate sideways i keep rotate sideways sideways oh that's the one that's the one right there that is the one because when you do like that it's like you just feel all that yeah and it warms everything up and it feel it loosens it it stretches it a little bit because when you get to here you know you're challenging your range of mobility and then you get to You know, it's like, and it's hard to do.
So your abs are firing. Everything's working.
Yeah, we got everything activated, man. You look good at your age.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
I try. I try.
I'm trying to keep up. Try to just keep it active.
Keep it going. But all those different exercises are huge, and I ignored a lot of them.

But that's the thing about getting injured. Sometimes you get injured and you go, okay, why did I get injured? I need to do more preventative stuff.
Yeah. Yeah, like you're doing with your feet.
Yeah. Like more of that.
So when you do plyometric stuff, do they have you do stuff on, like, balance balls and shit too? Of course, balance balls, explosive launches, maybe put the track ladders. Oh, yeah.
You know, jumping over those is always a good one for player for explosion. Yes.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Speed bends.
When did players start realizing that that's something to incorporate? Because I would imagine if you go back to the early days, they were probably doing regular weightlifting stuff, right? Exactly. I feel like if you want to be an explosive athlete, you got to get in the playoffs if you want to be explosive.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Especially if you're a wide receiver or defensive back, guys who got to be athletic and jump high and attack the balls and do different stuff.
Maybe like an old lineman may not be getting the balls, so they might focus on lifting weights and, you know what I mean, being strong and combative. You know what else I started adding to? What you adding? Ab wheel to my feet when you do explosive push-ups.
So you explode up, you roll your abs forward on the wheel, and then you come down and catch yourself, and then explode up and roll the wheel forward and then come down and catch yourself and clap and catch yourself.

I learned that from Arthur Bitterbeev, the light heavyweight champion,

his crazy dude from Chechnya.

That's explosive push-ups.

Yeah, but with an ab wheel.

He does it with an ab wheel.

I was like, oh, that's next level.

That's next level.

There's, like, so many different things you could see, like, really elite high-level guys do.

You're like, oh.

I get it.

I get it.

I feel like I'm going to be a little bit more. That's next level.
There's like so many different things you could see like really elite high-level guys do you like oh I get it. I get it Just mobility drills and Hip exercises rotated in the hips is a big one.
Mm-hmm. What kind of shit do you do for that? You go single leg I like to do the single leg and then be on one leg and then rotate your hip like if you was doing the full circle of your hip.
But do it on one leg so you get the glute burning. Oh, so you're doing that on one.
And you're balancing too. Yeah.
So you're on one leg. Just try to rotate this hip forward 10 and backwards 10.
Yeah. On one leg.
Opening the hip is always key. laying on the ground getting this leg to this leg this this leg to this arm you know

laying on your stomach, rotating your back leg to your back. Staying open.
I feel like the older we get, the tighter your muscles get. So make sure you're stretching more than you tighten them up.
Because keep your muscles long as you get older to keep your muscles soft. Yeah.
When I'm getting lazy, stretch either gotta scratch i realize like yeah that's probably also how i get injured um would you ever fuck with yoga absolutely yoga is amazing yeah i love it man scratch you feel you feel like once you do yoga your body feel it's better overall even once you're done right you can feel the difference right away. Yeah, you feel like everything's working together too.
Like all the connective areas are getting strengthened. All the balance and all the stuff that keeps your posture in line.
Yeah. Health is wealth, man.
Anytime, you know, you got to make accountability to be able to, you know, take care of yourself. That's what life's about, you know eating healthy.
Give yourself a chance to live a good life. Do they coach in the NFL how to eat? What supplements to take? They tell you what to do? They will, but it's usually kind of up to you and yourself as a player.
If you want to take care of yourself, they're getting your blood work and got everything right in front of you. So for me, I usually take my blood test to know what my body digests, what food I need to put in and take, you know, what provides less inflammatory, what's good for me, what's not.

So when they take your blood test, do they sit down with you and go over the results and talk to you about like what you need?

It's got to be for you.

Like, you got to take the initiative to go to them. You know what I mean? This is a business at the end of the day.
You got to do what's best for you yourself. For sure, but I would imagine for them, it would be beneficial to them to make their athletes perform at the very best they can, so give them as much information as they could.
I would hope so, but usually in the NFL, they pay you money and it's like... You figured it i'm you now yeah um what about like saunas

and cold plunge is the best everyday cold plunge sauna man that's healthy living yeah sauna is the best flush out cold tub feeling brand new yeah that's pretty preeminent recovery right there it's everything right yeah like that's what you live for the hot steam cold, cold tub, man. That's the best feeling ever.

So what's the next move right now for Antonio Brown?

What are we going to do?

I feel like, you know, just keep, you know, being myself,

giving back to the world.

I feel like I want to start a 7-on-7 team,

give some local kids in Miami, Tampa,

some opportunities to travel, you know, play 7-on-7 flag football.

Obviously, podcast, maybe do more on CTSPN. You know, just be happy and hopefully the Hall of Fame in 2027.
Oh, okay, nice. You know, me and Ben Roethlberger are in that class together.
Nice. So that'll be a good opportunity.
What do you do with kids? Were you talking about flag football? Yeah, flag football is a big thing right now where you take the kids, different tournaments all over the world, allowing them to complete, giving them opportunities to live their dreams, different age groups. You know what I mean? And you're involved in that? Yeah.
Setting it up now to get our own team, me and Kodak Black, one of my close friends from Miami, probably started a volleyball league for the women and some flag football for the team.

Oh, that's great.

Community activities to help some kids achieve their goals

and taking them to different tournaments

to be able to compete all over the world.

That's cool that you have that focus,

that you want to help kids too.

Help them. And also, when they see a guy like you has done it been there done that

You know been at the top well. They could say oh it's pop.
He's human

He's just like me, you know, and him talking to me and work with me

Maybe I can get something done in this life. I got some new music coming out

Actually tomorrow song called click it

41 Cal rich Tata Jen Carter nice music coming out. Actually, tomorrow's song called Click It with 41.

Cal Rich, Tata,

Jen Carter. Nice.

It's been a blessing, man.

Are you working with Kanye anymore?

Yeah, I work with him too.

I got some cool stuff coming as well. Really?

Still working with him? Still working on that. When was the last time you saw him? I saw him in LA

a couple weeks ago. He's a wild man.

Yeah. He's a side.

When he showed up at the Grammys with his wife naked, he's like, look. Turn around.
Okay, bye. Then he leaves.
He doesn't even go to the Grammys. He just shows up, walks the red carpet, his wife takes his clothes off, and he goes home.
Yeah, he's just out there. Okay, we good.
Yeah, he's good, man. We excited about, you know, he brought me in his is for don the sports he bought you that yeah whoa don the sports the sports brand that he opened up that's the gdp of a small island yeah look at the size of that fucking thing so we got to get don the sports back you know kaya made me presidential president of the don the sports oh really a lot of basketball team we used to have in la um a lot of kids came out of you know and uh we plan on getting back to it and uh doing some other things creatively in the music space so i'm excited for those announcements coming soon 2025 so oh that's cool so what what other what sports are you getting involved with oh basketball has been a huge sports for Donna sports oh had a couple of players you know come out of Donna sports so what is he doing is he managing them like what is a prep school that was you know allowing the kids to go to school down the sports giving the opportunity to play basketball taking them play different games okay yeah I mean we had a Rob Dillingham used to be in a program opportunity to play basketball, taking them to play different games.
Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I mean, we had Rob Dillingham, who used to be in the program, who played for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Now he got drafted, who went to Kentucky University.

I mean, he went to, I think he went to Duke University and came out and went.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

So he represents them, gives them advice.

I didn't even represent them, just allow them to go to school and play basketball. Oh, just help them.
Yeah, just help them to get to the next level. Not even represent them or nothing.
But also, like, being under that umbrella is, like, notoriety. Absolutely.
Getting them the exposure, the right opportunities to just go to the next level. So is this something Kanye's going to expand to other sports as well? I mean, we was talking about it.
I mean, they don't really know a lot about sports. You know, that's why he put me on to, you know, and Justin LaBoy in regards to basketball and other sports athletes to just give them the opportunity to live out their dreams.
That's really cool, man. That's very cool.
It's nice that you're interested in doing that, that you want to help young kids achieve their goals. It's a true measure of success.
I've been blessed in my life to live a beautiful life, experience in the NFL. That's our job as humans.
Give other people the best experience. Give them a chance to do something they may not be able to do in their life.
So I'm grateful just to be in that position to give back. That's a beautiful philosophy.
It's a good way to look at life. You know, you're living your life.
You're happy. You're also helping people be happy.
Yeah. And cracking on people.
Yeah. A couple jokes here and there.
You write all that shit yourself or do you have anybody help you? I'll be writing it. You write all of it? Yeah.
Oh, my God. That's amazing.
I'll be writing it. Yeah.
It's hilarious. Well, the response has been pretty amazing, right? They love it.
Smokes and jokes, man. It's funny.
I mean, imagine the idea of an ex-football player starting an award show and he gets 200 million views. He has a blessing.
I mean, very much so. But it was also because you had like laid the groundwork of being funny all the time on Twitter and being that wild follow that people like to go check you out.
So when you do something like that award show, everybody's like, yeah, I can't wait. I'm looking forward to it.
Bro, I was getting texts all day long, man. So many people were sending me texts about it.
Thank you for participating with it, man. That was awesome, man.
That was a big deal. My pleasure.
Everybody was excited. Everybody was excited.
Yeah, Joe on it. Let's go.
Yeah, everybody was excited. Because, like I said, it's just fun.
It's like a thing that wasn't around before, and it's like a sign that everything's getting back to normal, that you can do fun kind of shit like that again. Exactly.
We got to do more. Let's do it better this time.
Yeah. Well, I think now everybody is looking forward to the next one.
Like now it's established. You know, when you have the second annual awards, everybody's going to be very excited about it because it's a necessary thing.
We need more ridiculous shit in this world to take the burden off of a lot of people, just the regular life. You need fun.
Yeah, we need an excitement. Yeah, it's valuable.
It's not just silly. It's valuable for people's mental health.
It brings people joy and happiness. Yeah.
Yeah. When memes, when my friends send me a funny meme and then I send it to them, we're all like, wow.
That should make you happy it makes me happy it's funny too exciting it's like some of the biggest laughs of my day are memes you know and i don't know who's making them i don't know who's it's coming out the blue just it's just like the universe is creating i mean it's obviously people are doing, but I don't even know who they are. Sometimes you do.

Sometimes a person, like, you know you can give them credit.

I'll give them credit.

But sometimes, like, I don't know where this came from.

It's on 15 different Instagram pages.

People just sending it to you like, all right.

I was throwing up my stories.

Yeah.

It's a fun time, man.

It's a fun time.

I'm glad you're a part of it.

Because, you know, having a guy like you out there, like, having a good time, cracking jokes, it opens up the door for other people to do the same. Absolutely.
Keep it light. Have a good time.
Enjoy yourself. I love it.
All right. Anything else you want to talk about before we wrap this up? I think we hit it all.
We hit it all? All right. Beautiful.
Tell everybody how they find you on X, AB.

AB84 on X, AB on IG.

Antonio Brown to the world.

Hall of Fame 2027.

Website?

AntonioBrown.com.

CrashOutBuckets.com.

CTSPN.com.

All right.

That's it.

All right, brother. Well, thank you very much for being here.
Thank you for having me. Continued success.
It's amazing. I'm All right.
That's it. All right, brother.

Well, thank you very much for being here.

Thank you for having me. Continued success.

It's amazing.

I'm a fan.

I'm excited.

I love you, too.

All right.

Thank you.

Bye, everybody.

Bye, everybody.