Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

3h 45m
Joe is joined by Matt Serra, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen to watch the fights on February 8, 2025.
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Speaker 1 I am. We're up.

Speaker 1 It's buffering. Wow.

Speaker 1 That's it. We're live.

Speaker 1 You got your cans. We're live.
Try to put my cans. Put your boogie cans.
We're doing for the cans on. And we're all professionals.
We're all professionals. Is everybody drinking?

Speaker 1 Yes, we have Buffalo Trace here. We have whatever you want.
We have vodka. We have all kinds of shit.
What do you like? What do you like? Fuck a club? With a splash of crayon? No, it's not fucking.

Speaker 1 It's not me. I can't hear it.
So you don't got to worry about that.

Speaker 1 You can't hear it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 You don't hear it? Hear it now? Poor me. You don't hear anything? Jamie will check it out.
It might be a wire sleeve.

Speaker 1 I thought he was running for the drinks, too. No, he does not.
Is he playing bartender too, Jamie?

Speaker 1 I'll bring over

Speaker 1 bottles. We got some stuff you can mix it with, I think, but I don't know.
Mixes. Do you need mixes?

Speaker 1 I don't need a mix. Nothing.

Speaker 1 I was just going to do a vodka with a club. I don't need no crayon.
Do you have club soda? Might.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if we have club soda. Am I being a fancy pants? A little bit.
A little bit. Well, what else ice drink if you're allowed to? A little ice adult.
I'm the only one that doesn't drink.

Speaker 1 Whiskey with an ice ball. You're not drinking at all? I mean, I'll drink a little.
I'm not a big drinker, but when in Austin,

Speaker 1 give me some of that.

Speaker 1 Give me some of that. Oh, shit.
Come on. That's what I'm saying.
Give me a little bit. Let's go.
All right. Brendan Shaub, stay on that wagon, sir.
I have to. Stay on that wagon.

Speaker 1 Guys, otherwise I turn into a gremlin. Salute.
Come on. Come on.
There's no business. My companion.
There's no middle ground for Brennan. It's either all or nothing.

Speaker 1 And by the way, way, I smell and knew with Tetiana Suarez, if you ask me. Oh, yeah, all day.

Speaker 1 I saw her just, I was just watching some of the fights, and I saw her just take down Jessica Andraj and smoke her. Jesus.
She's like nobody's business. And she was, and she's not easy to get down.

Speaker 1 She's a fucking. She was Gatorade High School Wrestler of the Year when she came out.
And then she won the Ultimate Fighter. She was a savage, and she got hurt.
Wasn't she?

Speaker 1 Yeah, she had a couple of injuries that derailed her career for a little bit. She was on the Olympic team, but then got cancer.
She defeated defeated cancer. She beat cancer? What kind of cancer?

Speaker 1 She beat cancer. Jesus.
She's a savage, though. So

Speaker 1 we labeled her the khabib of the women's division. Oh, here we go.
We got something to mix it up with. Oh, LaCroix.
There we go. There you go.
Oh.

Speaker 1 All right. I had a little sip of this.
That's okay.

Speaker 1 I'm easy. Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good fight.

Speaker 1 Sean Way-Lee is just such a monster, man. She's so hard to bet against.
That lady is such an animal. When's the last time she fought a real wrestler? She has not.
She's never fought anybody like her.

Speaker 1 Not even close. Neither of them have fought anybody of the caliber that they are.
That's why it's a great fight. They're also both older.

Speaker 1 I think Tatiana's 31, and then a homegirl Weigling is what, 34? Isn't that crazy to say? Because Alex Pereira is 37. Different.
Yeah, isn't it? That's weird, though, right?

Speaker 1 You feel like older, 31, you start going,

Speaker 1 isn't that interesting? Especially. Lighter weight class.
Lighterweight class. Lighterweight class female, like older, they turn into fucking gremlins.
How about fucking Pantoja?

Speaker 1 Pantoja's a fucking guy. He might be the best guy pound for pound alive.

Speaker 1 He might be right up there with Tapuria and Islam and John Jones and everybody else who's in the conversation. But he's small, so no one cares.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but God damn, man, he was so good against that Japanese cat. I was like, my God.

Speaker 1 And that Japanese cat didn't have that first-time jittis. No, he came out.
He should have a fucking hellish. He was a champion and I was like, hellish striker.
One? Ryzen. Ryzen.

Speaker 1 Dangerous striker. Dangerous striker.
But think about it. They have to sign a homeboy from Ryzen to compete with him.

Speaker 1 There's not much for him. Pantosia is an animal, and he keeps getting better.
Like, he looked better in that fight than ever before. His timing and everything was pristine.
How old is he? 34, maybe?

Speaker 1 How old is Pantosh? He's rare, Jamie. Dude, remember he won the bell? He was like, do you see me now, Dad? Yo, whoa.
He's that guy. That guy.

Speaker 1 Andre, Pantoja. Whatever it takes.

Speaker 1 He's a smart man. One of my absolute favorite guys to watch fight.
Monster. Just an animal.
Just a dog. Just a full.
Beautiful jiu-jitsu. Beautiful.
Crisp striking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, his striking was super impressive against that Japanese cat because I was like, man, the timing is just so good. There was no place where that guy was safe.

Speaker 1 You know, he was driving, I think he was doing Uber Eats. Yeah.
When he was fighting. He's a sweet guy.
Really sweet guy. Crazy.

Speaker 1 But the narrative on that, too, like the media is like, you know, he's a UFC fighter and he's driving for Uber Eats. It's like he also fought once in three years.
Like, that's on you, dog. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's on you.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of things going on, but it's also weird that 125, it's real hard to sell. 135, no problem.
Because 125. 125, you got Sugar Sean, you got Murab, you got some stars with personality, but

Speaker 1 125, every dude sitting on the couch is like, they're tiny, I can beat them up, and they have no fucking clue. How did they not think that about the 135s? How is it 10 pounds? Like, ah, okay.

Speaker 1 Isn't that weird? Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 Maybe because you've got some very fucking exciting personalities at 35. What about Mighty Mouse? Murab, bro.
Mighty Mouse was amazing when he was a champion. Amazing.
He was doing Wizardry.

Speaker 1 One of the best ever. He was doing Wizardry.
Wizardry.

Speaker 1 But he wasn't controversial.

Speaker 1 Mighty Mouse was like the nice guy ever. Bro, that Ray Borg fight? Dude, I was about to pass him and come to the armor all the way down.
Yeah, man. I never seen that.
Matos is 34. Yeah, he's 34.

Speaker 1 Fucking animal. 34 at 125 is

Speaker 1 56.

Speaker 1 There's talk about him going to 35. Him versus Murab would be fucking bananas.
Yeah, but bananas.

Speaker 1 I'm never betting against Murab again.

Speaker 1 How great was that?

Speaker 1 How great was that Umar Feynman? Amazing. Amazing.

Speaker 1 I was for sure. Umar was going to beat him.
Did you really? You're a piece of shit. Why would you know? I'll tell you right now.
Anyone from Dagestan or that area?

Speaker 1 Striking his wrestling.

Speaker 1 What is nuts? Drives me nuts.

Speaker 1 They're both from the Caucasus Mountains. They are.
Yeah, but one guy trains in Jersey. Like, what are we doing? And also, Murab.
He's living in Vegas now. Yeah, he's Vegas.
But Murab has the.

Speaker 1 Close.

Speaker 1 I get him so riled up.

Speaker 1 Anybody from Dakota, I got a black guy's going to crush him. Bro, Murab is a machine.
The thing is, the biggest weapon in all of combat sports and all of sports, period. His cardio is the most lethal

Speaker 1 thing on the planet. His cardio and his wrestling.
And he took a gold medalist, you know. He's striking.
Yeah. I mean, throwing hammers.

Speaker 1 You got to see, though, like, you look on paper, and people were making a, they were saying, oh, man, well, he's got the wrestling to counter him and he's got the better hands.

Speaker 1 Murab is whole fucking career for guys with a good wrestling base and fucking good striking. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 used to that who the who are you gonna get to simulate muraby he never fought anybody like murab and when this was i wasn't we weren't surprised at all it was it was pretty oh what about what about against sejudo a gold medalist who's seen it all yeah that was amazing but the thing about umar is umar's striking is is really elite it's elite and deceptive he does a bunch of stuff that no one does like one of the things he does is his crazy front kick to the and he throws a right leg roundhouse kick and a left leg roundhouse kick to the face both of them with like equal dexterity, both off the lead leg.

Speaker 1 Like he whips that lead leg over your shoulder and smacks guys in the face. And his timing, but it works for

Speaker 1 time. No one can.
Nobody can.

Speaker 1 No one ever will. He's the master of range, Murab.
They think that, oh, he doesn't have the reach. He's the master of closing that distance.

Speaker 1 He throws that overhand into the single leg, to the double leg.

Speaker 1 You don't know whether he's shooting or striking the whole time. And defense.
What I love about it is after that first round, oh man, Marab dropped that round. Second round, he's not getting stressed.

Speaker 1 You see him smiling back taking. He's smiling.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's there all night. And he could afford another 25 minutes.
I believe it. I never seen anything like it.
I've seen a lot. I don't think we will either.
Was he always like that?

Speaker 1 He was always like that with the cardio, but he didn't have the tools to get out of certain positions.

Speaker 1 Did you see what DC said? No. On his Instagram? DC went to visit him.
Visit him the day after the fight.

Speaker 1 And he's running.

Speaker 1 He loves it. So he beats Sean, wins the world titer.
DC goes to visit him at his house. He's not home.
He's running. I'd be honest with you.
So DC's wandering around his house.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even know he's there. Like, he just lets him, he just walks into his fucking house.
And he's like filming Murab's gym. He's like, whose gym you think this is?

Speaker 1 Like, just got a picture of Murab. It's the best weapon in UFC.
He loves it, man. He loves it.
There's nothing you can do. He loves

Speaker 1 him. He's incredible.

Speaker 1 But that's all, that's two things, right? That's some kind of genetic gift. And on top of that, insane hard work.
It's like both things. Because the guy's a tank.

Speaker 1 tank like there's a lot of great trees reminds me of k remember kane had that weird cardio oh you're like what the yeah put his head in your chest and just they said he took two months off in his hey day he took two months off came in the gym and dc was like we're gonna beat the shit out of kin he has been in two months this episode is brought to you by squarespace if you've got something to sell or want to take your business online squarespace has you covered their built-in seo tools help people find you and you can sell products take payments even manage bookings all from one easy platform.

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Speaker 1 This offer is for new customers only. Singles, he went shark tank rounds and beat the fuck out of everybody.
His cardio was fine.

Speaker 1 Luke Roxhall told me that Kane was the guy who would turn your fucking head around. He would just get in there.
And he said, at one point,

Speaker 1 what he was doing to Luke, to Daniel, to all those guys was like a different thing. It was a nightmare.
Yeah, what changed with Kane was he blew his knee out when he was getting ready for the

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no. He lost two.

Speaker 1 Who lost two? JDS. JDS.
Junior Dos Santos. Sorry, Junior.
Yeah. I just had a brain fart.
Junior Dos Santos knocked him out on Fox, and his knee was fucked up going into that fight.

Speaker 1 And that was the big fight for Fox. It was like one of our first big events.
Huge event. Huge event.
And he really shouldn't have been fighting. He should have got out of the fight.

Speaker 1 His knee was fucked up. So Junior knocks him out, and then he beats the shit out of Junior in the rematch.
And he beats the shit out of Junior in the rematch after that. The third fight,

Speaker 1 he beats him like in a way that takes years off your life. Yeah, it changes his DNA forever.

Speaker 1 That pace, you see these guys just

Speaker 1 can't breathe. They're just wilting from that.
Especially at heavyweight. I love that saying that.
Brock Lesnar fighting. Yeah, a lot of it had to do with his, he was very good at boxing.

Speaker 1 He picked up on boxing so quickly. And it was all smooth technique.
There wasn't no big wind-ups where his chin was exposed. It was all very smooth.
The Nogara KO, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 That fucking bang. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Whoa! It was like lightning.

Speaker 1 Kane in his prime is the best heavyweight ever. It's hard to say because of Fedor.
Because if you could get juicy Fedor from Pride. I think Kane beats the fuck up.
I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 I don't know if anybody beats Fedora. Fedor is so accurate with his strikes.
So good, dude. Fador walked down Crokop when Crokop was in his prime.

Speaker 1 You got to remember that most of that fight was standing up. And Fedor was going blow to blow with Crokop and walking him down.
He was very unusual.

Speaker 1 That Randoman KO or the Randoman armbar, Randoman fucking suplexes him on his head.

Speaker 1 And five seconds later, he's got him into Kimura. It's crazy.
He was different. He was a mon when he beat up Noguera, dude.
Oh my God. Watch that fight.

Speaker 1 I'd like to have seen some testing around those times. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 on a television.

Speaker 1 Even on the UFC back then, even on the UFC back then, though. He'd be tough.

Speaker 1 Kane without him, motherfucking Sylvia, when he was Rico Rodriguez, when he beat the shit out of Rico Rodriguez, he looked like a bodybuilder.

Speaker 1 Kane has Brian Callan's chest. Like, dude, it's not on.
He didn't need it. No, no, no.
Kane had them jeans.

Speaker 1 He had them jeans. He had them fucking Mayan warrior.
He had a genius machine like Brian Callan. Yeah, he had some Aztec warrior jeans.
Like, whatever Kane had is like superior genetics.

Speaker 1 The cardio issues. His cardio is giant.
Nuts and nuts. You hear the way DC talks about them and their sparring and stuff.
So you know, I don't think he's just throwing the praise at him.

Speaker 1 No, DC

Speaker 1 clearly said the only reason why I'm heavyweight because Kane's not fighting. I'll never forget when Kane was fighting, I was on the same card.
I fought Gonzaga.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the fight he fought Lesnar. And when we were doing

Speaker 1 the fucking pre-shoot stuff, he took his shirt off and I'm like waiting to go. And he has that brown pride.
I looked at the guy doing the video stuff. I go, hey, if I put white pride, is that cool?

Speaker 1 And he goes, dude, just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 That wouldn't go over to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're allowed to have brown pride.

Speaker 1 You're allowed to have brown pride.

Speaker 1 Well, because the Mexicans didn't really subjugate the white people in recent memory. It's a little different.
It's a little different.

Speaker 1 Let me call it some people. It's a big difference.

Speaker 1 We sit in 2018.

Speaker 1 What's with this little stuff? Did you guys see Cat Williams in Phoenix? No. We lit up.
Did you see that?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Not only did he lit up that dude, he had the whole crowd chanting America.
Yeah, I do. He's like, motherfucker, this ain't Mexico.
This is Phoenix.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. He had a heckler? He had a heckler? Oh, he had a heckler in Phoenix.
And something about Mexicans and cats. Bro, the last one.

Speaker 1 I saw Kat Williams at the comedy store one time. He was so fucking good.
He was like, I've been doing this for 30 years. He was like, and he was playing with the band and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 He's one of the greatest. Did you see him on Theo's podcast? No.
Because he kind of does a character, you know, and he's doing his thing. But Theo's so fucking funny.
He breaks like three times.

Speaker 1 he just can't he just can't oh really because theo's talking about black ducks he goes you need to get you some black ducks dude's mine he's the best he broke cat like four times really bro how about when he was talking to the president he was saying man that cocaine will turn you into a damn owl have you said nothing

Speaker 1 a damn owl

Speaker 1 in trump's all uh trump's like what the president's talking about cocaine but that is like really probably what trump needed he needed those kind of interviews which uh which comedians was he shitting on when he he said your friends aren't funny?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Not to make it awkward.
Listen, he said. Why would he do that?

Speaker 1 He said that because he thought for some crazy reason that I didn't want to have him on, like somehow or another, that he would be showing up people or something like because he's so good.

Speaker 1 Maybe he thought that because he's isolated. That's not even, he doesn't know me that well.
The first time I met him was in the studio.

Speaker 1 I love Cat Williams. I've always been a fan.
I've always talked about Pimp Chronicles. It's fucking fantastic.
It's so good. He's so wild.
And I've actually taken advice from him.

Speaker 1 There's two pieces of advice that I took from an interview that he did once that I use to this day. One, he said, I never eat before a show.

Speaker 1 He said, don't eat. He goes, I want to be hungry.
Better off being hungry. My brain works better.
And then two, he said, I have a music playlist that I make that just gets me in the mood to do a show.

Speaker 1 And so I'm like, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 And from then on, I started carrying around like a Bluetooth machine, like a Bluetooth boom box, and bringing and then the green room playlist that we have on Spotify. That's all the songs.

Speaker 1 But it's only 35 hours. It's smart.
You guys should do it. That's what athletes do.
It was a smart thing. I was thinking, I was like, why don't I do that? Like, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Like, you want to turn it into a little bit of a party. Yes.
You get that music going, it feels good, like we do with the green room at the mothership. Yeah, get that music going.

Speaker 1 Everybody's having fun. I want to give you a compliment.
Longo, who doesn't give compliments? I don't know where the fuck he saw you, but he's

Speaker 1 fucking dying the whole time. The whole time, dying.
That was a good shit. You killed him.
Yeah, yeah. You fucked up.
I feel like this guy.

Speaker 1 Stress factory. Jake Matthews, I'm very high on this kid.
I like him. I'm very, very high on this kid.
Oh, are we

Speaker 1 mean card? I think Jimmy Croots' fight got canceled. Is that correct? Yes.
Jake Matthews is always exciting. Always.
He's super good.

Speaker 1 He's like one of those guys that look like he could break through any moment now. But he's a little reckless, so he'll win like three and then lose one.

Speaker 1 Well, he's fighting really good guys. It's the UFC.
I smell him by submission. That's what I smell.
What do you smell? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Listen, this guy,

Speaker 1 Prada, he's real good. But he's got good striking.
Jake Matthews, very well-rounded. Yeah, very well-rounded, but sharp striking.

Speaker 1 Jake's striking is just crazy.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 to be intelligent in this fight, I think he should get his ass down. Is she about to sing the national anthem? Heidi Andrew on the spotlight.
She's been with the UFC for a long time.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Crude there. I don't think that's.

Speaker 1 I don't even think I met her. There's Jimmy Cruz.
He's getting ready.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's back. Wait, what has happened? Wait a minute.
Is the brute

Speaker 1 on Malley? So is the fight not canceled?

Speaker 1 I was looking to see if it was. That was under double 11 minutes ago.
135. That was February 6th, a couple days ago.
No, but up top it says the brute's back. That's 11 minutes ago.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So he's not off the card. Just Google Jimmy Croot off-UFC card.

Speaker 1 I read that three different fights were off the card. I don't know, man.
And Croot was one of them. I like that fucking mullet.
Oh, okay. He's in there.
I like beautiful healthy mullet.

Speaker 1 I like that dude. That mullet.
He's very good. What's he doing? Very good ground game.
He's got a fucking Kimura. I don't see that.
What weight's he fighting at? Isn't Crude a middleweight?

Speaker 1 He looks...

Speaker 1 What is he? He's 185, I believe. I think he's a middleweight.

Speaker 1 Light heavyweight. Oh, he's fighting light heavyweight in this fight.
Did he use it? He's 185? I think he did. I do believe he did.
Is this a last-minute replacement fight, Jamie? Which one?

Speaker 1 This Jimmy Crude Balato, or is that the original? No, that's the guy he had, right? It's interesting that he decided to do that, and he's an underdog. And

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm not familiar with it.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing people are hate on the card because it's not big names but if you notice the way the fight the card's structured which is why i don't hate on it is they're all going to be for the most part finishes they're supposed to be well paper both of these you never know but they're super exciting fights prado and jake matthews is a very good fight to kick it off with i'm i'm real excited about this they're both very good fun card yeah it's just not one of them cards that like jumps out we're so casual you're like where's Connor here's the thing we're fucking so spoiled because in most sports like in most combat sports it's all about the main event Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they either go away or you don't get it. Most people are barely watching the prelims and boxing.
Also, USA has to fill a lot of cards, you know? So you can't have them stacked like it's all in 1998.

Speaker 1 I get upset on a Saturday when there's no USC. I do too.
I don't pop out what Saturdays.

Speaker 1 You don't know what to do. I fucking, it's just, it just makes my day complete.
There is nothing better for me. There's nothing better for me than just chilling at home, watching the fights.

Speaker 1 I feel so relaxed. I don't have to work and I can watch them.
Best thing on earth. Yeah, you watch the screen.

Speaker 1 You don't watch the actual fight. Oh, I watch the fight when I can.

Speaker 1 But the problem is there's some positions where, especially when they're on the ground, like I don't know if someone's trapped. I don't know how they have a

Speaker 1 better. Yeah, all I see is a back and a dude, and I'm confused as to what's going on.

Speaker 1 I need to see the monitor sometimes. I need some colors in the way.
I need to see the monitor with replays all the time because we don't know if a guy got hit or if it's a headbutt.

Speaker 1 Like, sometimes I remember Matt Sarah when he fought Matt Hughes. And I thought Matt Sarah dropped him.
And I did fucking drop him. Let's talk about that.
Let's talk.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about about that?

Speaker 1 Every time I hear him say it, it's true. Oh, it was a head, but my head hit him.
The head connected. He was still standing.

Speaker 1 Look at that head. It's a fucking head.
Oh, it's a head of fucking head. That head can take out a building.

Speaker 1 That head can take out a building.

Speaker 1 That head hit tower seven.

Speaker 1 My hand.

Speaker 1 I said that head hit tower seven.

Speaker 1 This thing could go through a fucking wall without chugging out.

Speaker 1 He collapsed.

Speaker 1 When my head touched his chin, my hand went. Yes.
It was a ball. And that's what he said.
It was certainly both. But it was definitely your head hit him first.
Yeah, but I feel like you 100% crazy.

Speaker 1 Look, Matt, you always had crazy power. No, that Frank Trigger.
Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 He fucking hit him.

Speaker 1 He went through a lot. He did go through a lot.

Speaker 1 How about coming back? He looks really good. Who's coming back? Matt Sarah.
No, I didn't. I don't mean fighting.
I don't mean fighting. I don't mean fighting.
No, no, no, no. GFL just got him.

Speaker 1 I'm not coming back for his injury. Come on, man.
G.

Speaker 1 GFL.

Speaker 1 We can talk about that if you want. Yeah.
Yeah. Go ahead.
But where are you? What the fuck? Go ahead.

Speaker 1 I said he looks a lot better since his rehabilitation. He's doing a lot of stem cells.
Matt Sarah.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. Matt Hughes.
Thank you. Matt Hughes.

Speaker 1 Matt Hughes. No, you always are great.

Speaker 1 Matt Hughes got hit by a fucking train.

Speaker 1 Did you have a purpose? No, no, no, no. His car fucking stalled out or something.
I don't know what happened. I don't know.
But it's depressing. I don't know what happened.
Either way, son.

Speaker 1 What are you talking? What the fuck are you introducing to the conversation?

Speaker 1 Jesus, Matt Gettys,

Speaker 1 Jesus. I don't know.
Jesus Christ. It's a train track like it's loading to dials, bro.
Maybe he has somehow. He has information on NASA.

Speaker 1 He's on a silo truck. Yeah, they knew something.

Speaker 1 But anyway, point is, like, he looks great. Like, it's been a long road for that guy to recover.

Speaker 1 He seems a lot better now. He walks a lot better.
He's talking a lot.

Speaker 1 I've seen him in Manchester, though. We did a signing over there a year ago.
How was he? How was he then?

Speaker 1 He's all right. No, he's good.
He's like walking around. I mean, he's not.
Yeah. He's not 100%.
He's not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How's Brian Callan? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I listen.

Speaker 1 I think that

Speaker 1 he's living.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's a shopping.

Speaker 1 Major brain injury. He had some brain injuries, you know.
Yeah, I mean, especially the car accident with the train. That affected

Speaker 1 the big one. After a long career of like, you know, a lot of rotten soccer robots fights.
I worked with him on Kingdom, spent a week with him. I love Magic.
And he was great.

Speaker 1 And we talked a lot about, like, he was like, I just want to be able to wake up, put my shoes on. You know, he didn't feel like there was anything, but he was worried about about it.

Speaker 1 This is before the accident. Yeah, I said, do you ever remember Jim? That was worried.
I was in 2004?

Speaker 1 No, that was 2015.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but what I'm saying is that he was totally fine.

Speaker 1 But it was always a worry for him. You know who seems to be doing good as Frank Trigg? You see him as a ref out there?

Speaker 1 Yay! That's who you want. Looking nice and fat.
Yeah, he's John.

Speaker 1 Triggs big. Triggs big.
Trig's big. He's big.
Trick's big. He's thick.
He's thick. He's music.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He seems happy. Man, I ran into him a few times.
But that's who you want as a ref or as a judge. He's a fucking judge.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Like these judges tonight, you know, no disrespect. What the fuck? Like, you think they're going to be able to judge Strickland's defensive strike?

Speaker 1 I don't understand. Well, who knows who they have? Maybe they have good ones.
Can I just tell you that? Chris Lehman's been judging. Yeah, Chris Lehman's.
Chris Lehman's great. He judged the last one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When I'm having a bad day,

Speaker 1 I put in my knockout of French Tree.

Speaker 1 Listen, who I get shot to this motherfucker. Let me tell you right now.

Speaker 1 I'm cool with everybody I ever fought. Now, you know, I fluctuate.
I used to fluctuate. Yeah.
I mean, stay, I'm

Speaker 1 weight-wise. Yeah, you'd get thick.
But, but, but, what would I fluctuate in other people?

Speaker 1 I never got fat. I remember when you were a brown belt, I've known Matt since 1996.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The only man I ever kissed. It's right.
You kissed him right on the lips. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that was, you know.

Speaker 1 But because I think you went to kiss me on the cheek and I moved my head, and then we

Speaker 1 plus it was one of those things. It wasn't a eye contact.
For the folks at home, let me say this so it'll key up.

Speaker 1 So, what we do is when the first scorecard, the first time card, rather, the clock, countdown clock goes on, I'll give you the numbers so you can sync up. 458,

Speaker 1 or 454, 453, 452, 451, 450, 449. Good enough.
All right, figure it out. All right.
So, first round, Matthews and Prado. I get that lighter over there, Joe.
Yes, sir. Thanks, sir.

Speaker 1 How's my favorite person, Henso Gracie? Man, you tell me, man.

Speaker 1 I talk to him through Instagram sometimes. He's all over the world, man.

Speaker 1 I got to get Henzo in here, man.

Speaker 1 Give him a call. He is the best.
We almost did it one time. He was in Austin, but the timing was bad.
He's so smart. He was just recently in Austin.
Henso's so smart.

Speaker 1 Well, he's got gyms all over the world, right? Oh, yeah. He's brilliant.
He's just a brilliant. One of a kind.
Yeah. The best.
It's just a great

Speaker 1 thing.

Speaker 1 Wasn't Ricardo Almito doing Judging discouraging? Yes.

Speaker 1 He was the first one I heard of doing it. This is the guy you're high on right here, Matthews.
I like Jake Matthews.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Let's see if he looks to take it to the floor.
He looks like he's got his feet. He's got a big advantage on the floor.
Nice. He's sharp on his feet.

Speaker 1 His defense has been looking very good. He's conscious, too.
His defense has been looking very good.

Speaker 1 Just gets low and sits down.

Speaker 1 He's super technical. And like I said, he's one of those guys, it seems to me, like, he's going to break out into the top five.

Speaker 1 He's one of those guys that's got the talent and he's real young. How old is Jake Matthews young, Jamie? He's been around a hot second.
Maybe 29, if I'm guessing. I'd say 31.

Speaker 1 But he's just like one of those guys that's always been like at the cusp. It's an interesting learning back tattoo.
I'll tell you that much. Do you like it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does it make you think of it? I don't know. It's an interesting idea.
Like, I'm going to cover just that part of my back. What are you thinking? The tram stamp? I mean,

Speaker 1 it's not so much like that. It's more of a young tram.
Trump used to have a tram stamp. Maybe he's going to do the whole back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looks like the beginning of

Speaker 1 a whole back tattoo. But he was goofing on me.
Yeah, it's probably because. That's like a tribal thing, right? That's like a New Zealand tattoo.
Yeah, maybe, or it looks like a Japanese tattoo.

Speaker 1 Oh, good uppercuts inside. Good knees, too.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Damn. Matthews is fucking dangerous.

Speaker 1 Doesn't that dude look like Drew Dober? Prado? A little bit. A lot.

Speaker 1 Nobody has Drew Dober's.

Speaker 1 Just not quite as handsome. That's like Drew Dober's bitter younger brother who's not as good looking.
Yeah. God damn it.
Didn't get all the shit. Fucking Drew.
I bring my girlfriends over.

Speaker 1 They're staring at Drew. Stop.
He does look like him with a figure. He's perfect features.

Speaker 1 Always on his tippy toes when he's fighting. Who's got fucking better constant staying on the ball of the feet than Drew Dover? He's just jacking up.

Speaker 1 He's always light on his feet, always super light on his feet. He has a chin like Mr.
Incredible. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's ridiculous. Beast striker, too.
Beast striker. Fun fighter.
Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 These guys are fucking.

Speaker 1 I wish. Matthews has a good jiu-jitsu, man.
I'm telling you. Oh, he's got good everything, man.
Matthews is super well-rounded.

Speaker 1 Somebody's going to get knocked out.

Speaker 1 But Prado's good too, man. This is a good fight.
Yeah. Somebody's going to connect.
This guy's got that anger of Drew Dober being handsomer than him, too. That shit carries you a long way.
It does.

Speaker 1 You think about it. Because it's just a little bit.
It's like, god damn it if my nose was just a little different. Yeah.
My eyes were just a little more. It's like a poor man's Drew Dober.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a tan's just nice.

Speaker 1 You know how like Kanye dated that new lady he's married there. Yeah, it looks a lot like she's hot, but it's not Kim.
Right.

Speaker 1 No, it's like

Speaker 1 she's hotter. I think she's way hotter than Kim.
You see Kim Kim in person? I have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we see pictures, bro. Come on.
What's the difference? No, Kim's beautiful, but I mean, come on. No, you know, it's like Drew Dober's a Royals Royce phantom, and he's a Chrysler 300.

Speaker 1 I think that girl was born looking like that, though. You know what I'm saying? I agree.
I agree.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think. Like, I wasn't mad when she showed up to the Grammys naked.
I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, you gay? Wait, this is a bad thing.
She's going to be fake ass?

Speaker 1 No, she's okay. I think it's a real.

Speaker 1 I think hers is real. I don't think her tits are real.
I think her tits might be real. They're all real.
Shut your mouth. Facts.

Speaker 1 If you you can touch them, they're real. Shut your dirty hit.

Speaker 1 Shut up. Shut your dirty whoremouth.
Shut your dirty whore.

Speaker 1 Oh, crap, guys.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Nice.

Speaker 1 Does that count as a takedown?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Hey, dude, that's condescending. That's a home run.
That's fucking condescending.

Speaker 1 That is so wrong. You and Joe Kim.
No, Joe. It's a job.

Speaker 1 I like to get people, you know, I like to ask the questions that novices are.

Speaker 1 Oh, right, right, right. I do that sometimes in podcasts.
You got to create some energy in the podcast. I ask questions.
I can't get people to relax. Yeah, come on, man.
Get him down now.

Speaker 1 Put him down. Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness. Prado.
Come on, Prado.

Speaker 1 Matthews. I've been a Prado fan for a long time.
Oh, that was great. Oh,

Speaker 1 get in the right hand. Great fact.
Jake is clean, man. He's clean.
I like the way this dude strikes. This guy's been doing some boxing.
Super technical, man,

Speaker 1 but hyper-aggressive, too. Look at that.
Oh,

Speaker 1 he blocked it, though. He blocked it.
He He hit him with the Yair. Yeah.
That jumping roundhouse kid. Oh, he's bleeding now.
Damn. Uh-oh.
Prado's busted up on his right eyebrow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Joe, you know, it was one of my favorite moments when you guys fucked it up when you had Zuckerberg on, and he goes, I hunt.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I went like this.
Yes.

Speaker 1 What does he hunt? He just, I went, yes. He goes, and then my favorite goes, I bow hunt.
I went, thank you, God. I love this.
Because I saw Joe go.

Speaker 1 I saw Joe go, do you?

Speaker 1 What kind of bow do you use? I think he did. He just forgot his bow.
Oh, he forgot the name of his bow.

Speaker 1 Listen, there's levels to this shit. I would never forget my bow,

Speaker 1 but I'm a fanatic. Like, I shoot archery every day.
Yeah, because you shoot. bows and arrows.
Yeah, he does. This video of him doing it.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. He definitely has.
That's like saying I played laser tag. He definitely bow hunts pigs.

Speaker 1 He lives on an island. He has an island in Kauai that's infested with wild pigs.
No, he does hunt them. I've seen videos of him doing it.
I've seen him. It's just

Speaker 1 someone gives him a bow. He doesn't look at it.
He doesn't care. Somebody teaches him how to shoot.
He doesn't know what release he has. If I said, what do you have? You have a stand?

Speaker 1 You have a wise guy? What do you have? What do you catch for that? Do you use a hinge? Do you have a knock-to-fair part? You can't tell.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're going to talk bows with Joe or Pool or even cars, you better come correct. Yeah, but this is.
I just know where he goes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 And I thought, oh, but. But this is Zuckerberg 2.0, and I love it.

Speaker 1 He's doing testosterone. He's doing jiu-jitsu.
He's awesome. I don't know if he's doing tests.
We hope he's doing tests. I think he is.
But he certainly looks a lot thicker. He looks great.

Speaker 1 When he came in, I was laughing at him. I'm like, your neck looks bigger.
Look at your neck. Yes.
He turned into a conservative. Yes.

Speaker 1 That's convenient, yeah. Well, also, hard work makes you think that way.

Speaker 1 Hard work physically makes you appreciate some masculine aspects of life. Joe, I need a light.
I'll tell you right now,

Speaker 1 if he fought Elon Musk and Elon Musk is sleeping on the jiu-jitsu, I know he's.

Speaker 1 Because sometimes when you hear Elon Musk talking about the fighting, you're like, oh, shit, stick to the fucking Rockets, buddy. I don't want to see either of them.
When you're that older,

Speaker 1 this fight is heating up, kids. These guys are going to be a bit more.
Elon has some white hips, though.

Speaker 1 He could be a big fella. Oh, cheese.
But if he looks like Trump. He looks like warm cheese.
You see him with his shirt off? God bless. I love him.
He's a lot thinner now. We got on that Ozempic son.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Dude, everybody's...
What is with that shit? He's got

Speaker 1 a lot of shit. His skin is so white.

Speaker 1 I've seen darker clouds. But what? Well, it's a little bit of a cheat code because what it does is it makes you not hungry.
And so people don't eat as much, and you go into calorie deficit.

Speaker 1 But you could do that on your own. They use it for addiction.
It's called discipline.

Speaker 1 It's a cheat code. It's a lot of people, but the best way to do it, if you want to do it on your own, just only eat meat.
I swear to God, you'll lose a shit ton of weights. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 An ulcerative colitis. It does wonders for myself.

Speaker 1 Do you have that? Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 Why was it tonight? They're using Ozempic for addiction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ozempic's got a bunch of other uses, too. And it's also for diabetes.
Doesn't it stop addiction overall? Though I heard people have

Speaker 1 drugs, addiction, yeah, yeah. But what is it?

Speaker 1 It ruined your bone. There's got to be something.
Is there any tests on it? Like in the long run? Well, the problem is, anytime you go into calorie deficit, your body starts eating itself.

Speaker 1 So what people are losing is not just fat, they're losing muscle and bone density.

Speaker 1 So Peter Attia, who's a good friend of mine, did some studies on his patients that did it, and he found that even when they lost weight, they got fatter.

Speaker 1 So they actually gained more fat and they lost muscle and bone mass

Speaker 1 yeah so

Speaker 1 but this is what i think i think were those people lifting weights while they were on that stuff here's the thing i feel like you got to do something to mitigate the fact that you're and also

Speaker 1 just you can't you got to be rational you can't like just try to starve yourself into thinness because you're going to fuck your organs up it's not good you what you really should do is make sure you consume enough calories to support any kind of physical exercise you're doing and then make sure you do physical exercise while you're also taking that stuff.

Speaker 1 And maybe then you can keep some muscle in the business. That takes discipline.
They want to just take the shot and get skinny and lean. People do get skinny, though.
It works.

Speaker 1 And it sucks being a fat guy. Right.
But how fat were you?

Speaker 1 How about this? Like, right now, I'm buck 85. Okay.
What? See, my you. Oh, okay.
That's good, bro. Let me see my age.
Oh, nice. Hold on.
I have to see that.

Speaker 1 I spotted it. Listen to me.
No, but

Speaker 1 when I was a fatty, I was up to 230 and I'm 5'6. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 Listen, if you got fat, you'd be like, oh, Brendan's a little husky. I've been fat.
When you're my height, I'm pointing to Joe, too. He's taller than me, though.
230 is a lot. Dude, I was heavy.

Speaker 1 That must have hurt your joints. Did that hurt your joints?

Speaker 1 Not so much my joints, it's just I felt like a fucking fat guy. You eat everybody.

Speaker 1 Your lower back didn't fuck with you or not? Well, my lower back went out at one point, and I'm sure that didn't help it, you know.

Speaker 1 But I was, and then I got on TRT, but I was still heavy because I'd be eating like a fucking pig. But this goes back to the thing because I didn't want to sound like a bully.

Speaker 1 The only reason I fuck with that guy still is because after I knocked him out years later, then I got fat. He called me up one time looking for Ali Aquinta's number.
So I go, oh, sure.

Speaker 1 I gave it to him. He had Al on the show.
When Al was getting off, he goes, hey, tell the beer keg I said hello. So I don't forget shit like that.
I don't forget it.

Speaker 1 Now that he's a fat guy and I'm in shape, I'd like to take a shot at him.

Speaker 1 You're like an athlete.

Speaker 1 A good right hand.

Speaker 1 I hope he goes for a fucking fucking takedown, man.

Speaker 1 You really like his jiu-jitsu that much, Matt?

Speaker 1 I know he has it. So, like, why this guy

Speaker 1 use it? I think he's doing really well on the feet. That's why.

Speaker 1 He wants to get a KO. But Ali Aquente, people forget, was that

Speaker 1 Khabib couldn't take him down.

Speaker 1 Al was a short drive with Khabib,

Speaker 1 but still, a short notice for Al.

Speaker 1 I know it's a different fight for Khabib, but he struggled in that fight. Al had his moments.

Speaker 1 Al did a good job defending takedown. He was also set to fight Paul Felder.
So he was about to fight a totally different fight. Totally different fight.
24 hours. Notice he did the

Speaker 1 best fight with Habib that anybody ever had. He did.
It's amazing. Yeah, Felder.
Felder wasn't dominated. Felder was fighting.

Speaker 1 He lost the fight, but he didn't get dominated like Connor did or a lot of other guys did. We got smashed.
Connor had some success, too, in that, though, too. He did.
If you watch it, again, like

Speaker 1 his ass whooped, yeah, you're like, damn. He did better against Habib almost than anybody else for a while.
Connor? Yeah. Yeah, and his camp was atrocious that time.
It was. Bad camp, yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Very bad. His trainer talks about it.
Just say it was like a dark camp. He wasn't training with the team.
He's like in his head about he was like, it was a dark camp. It was horrible.

Speaker 1 This is post-Floyd. Yes.
Yeah, that's a problem, too, right? You get ready for a boxing match with one of the all-time greats.

Speaker 1 You got to take six months where you're not doing any takedowns, no leg kicks, no nothing. All you're doing is boxing.
Bad idea.

Speaker 1 You're not going to take any extra energy and train your fucking jiu-jitsu when you're training for a Floyd May with a boxer. Yeah, Khabib the greatest grappler we've seen out there.
Waiting for him.

Speaker 1 It's a terrible idea. When he's on top of him, going, let's talk now.
Now, the other side is made a ton of money. Did you you hear it? You were right.
You were there for that fight, yeah?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who was it that said, someone said recently that I think if

Speaker 1 Connor McGregor, who beat Eddie Alvarez, faced Khabib, it would have been a completely different fight. I think so.
I probably said that.

Speaker 1 I don't remember who it was, but I listened to that and I said, you know what? I think that's true. How do you solve that problem? I think he was a different guy.

Speaker 1 But I think he was a different guy. He was a fucking animal.
Space management. I think it was Coastal that said that.
Yeah, but you're wrestling.

Speaker 1 Khabib's wrestling doesn't care about that. Once he closed distance, it'd be a problem for Connor.
Oh, it's always going to be a problem, but Connor was so fucking good on his feet back then. So good.

Speaker 1 So elusive, too.

Speaker 1 I like the clips of him getting interviewed back in the day saying partying is weakness for your soul. And then his clips now of him being like, nah, he's fucking all partying.

Speaker 1 Oh, the ship has sailed. It's like, we want him to come back and it didn't happen.
Well, he knows, too. Jimmy.
Of course he knows. Oh, my God.
Jake Matthews is walking this jack down.

Speaker 1 He knows he's put on this. If you're the first fight in the main card, you're there to finish.

Speaker 1 Well, also, he's trying to make a name for himself, and he's in Australia, you know, home country, the whole deal. Prado's in this.
That's where he's from, right? And he from

Speaker 1 Australian.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to have your hometown boys when you have a fight on a card in the motherland. That's why poor Strickland.
going back there. Yeah, but Drickus is from South Africa.

Speaker 1 It's like it's kind of neutral ground. The same area.
Same area.

Speaker 1 Same area. Oh, yeah.
It's different continent, but you know what it is. It's totally close.

Speaker 1 Closer than fucking Vegas where Strickland is. Yeah, not much.

Speaker 1 I just re-watched that one. That's got to be a bitch, though, Matt.

Speaker 1 Do you ever fight and have to give away?

Speaker 1 How'd you score it?

Speaker 1 It was. Did I give it to Strickland?

Speaker 1 What's that? You gave it to Strickland?

Speaker 1 It was, I mean, how much do you, the takedowns, what do you, how much do you give for the takedowns? He didn't do nothing. I don't think he got struck off on the film.
So it's like...

Speaker 1 How'd he score those? I thought Strickland won. I thought he won three to two, but

Speaker 1 it was very, I mean, it's all how you.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, though, Drake is, he mixes in those takedowns, and I think that could sway some judges.

Speaker 1 They say big moments instead of the whole round. He's a big dude, too.
He also pushes forward.

Speaker 1 Remember, Strickland's the one who pushes forward always. He's got

Speaker 1 a lot of things. But Arctic's on control

Speaker 1 when you go through the judging last. No, I understand.
But the thing about Drake is he's going to be moving forward always. And I think Sean is used to moving forward himself.

Speaker 1 So he's going to be fighting on his back foot. But then also, Strickland's not getting points because his defense is so good.
He's blocking a lot of shots, but it looks like they're landing.

Speaker 1 He's actually blocking. He rolls good with that Philly shell.
But how much did that cut, how much did that affect him? If that happened early on,

Speaker 1 he said he was a one-eyed guy early on. He talked to him.
Plus, the judges see that that's damaged. That's the number one judging criteria.

Speaker 1 What caused that cut? A headbutt, they said, right? Was it a headbutt? Or a punch?

Speaker 1 I thought it was a headbutt. It was a great fight, though.

Speaker 1 It was a good fight.

Speaker 1 People that say it's boring, I'm like, man, I thought it was great. It was high-level, very high-level fight.

Speaker 1 I'd imagine Duplessis is hard to get ready because you can't find anybody who spars like that. You can't mimic them.
Right? It's like he almost fights like a drunk guy in a bar.

Speaker 1 Well, like, bro, Oscar, good luck getting ready for that. Fuck.
That was awesome. His last fight with you.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 He puts him. He likes to trust his spider sense.
He goes right in front. He's like,

Speaker 1 that Amy Crane.

Speaker 1 It's crazy, man. And his head movement has gotten so much better.
And those counters, those pull counters.

Speaker 1 he hit him with a couple of pull left hands and then a right hook counter after that. Oh, my goodness.
It was blah, blah, blah. It was like, duck the punch, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 What would you do with Yuri, though? You know, come on. Wow, it's like one more, and then maybe tries Alex again.
I got one for you. What about Robert Whitaker at 205? Year.
Robert Whitaker, Yuri.

Speaker 1 Is that what you got? What Robert wants to do? He wants to go to 205?

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 That's crazy for you. For a guy who started at 170.
At 170. It's tough.
You've said it's tough for him to make 85. Well, he's bigger now.

Speaker 1 Robert Whitaker's fucking thick. Imagine, I mean, we've seen it before.
Look at Rumble. Rumble starts his 170 moves up to heavyweight.

Speaker 1 I was doing a Warrior with him. He was 230 on set.
230 and not fat. And he sucked down at 170.
Bro, he was so big. I ran into him in a hotel once.
I'm like, how the fuck are you ever 170?

Speaker 1 His head was big. He was so big.
His shoulders were as wide as a barn. And he sucked down at 170.

Speaker 1 And he didn't have an ounce of fat on him. He was 235.
He's walking around at 235. He can't be healthy.
No. It should be illegal.
But when he would get in there, oh my God, he would hit guys.

Speaker 1 They would just go flying. What did he die of? I don't know.
He had some sort of organ failure. He has an organ failure.
Some organ thing. Tragic.
What is that? Alp. What is that? That's one of them.

Speaker 1 This is Tucker Carlson's nicotine powder. Oh, he's got his own thing? Yeah, that's Tucker's.
What are they? They're good.

Speaker 1 They're really good. Are they? Yeah, they're very good.
Tropical. Well, the people from Zen didn't like him, apparently.
Oh,

Speaker 1 he said something joking around that would make your dick grow. Just playing around.
And they said something about, you know,

Speaker 1 we don't think that and

Speaker 1 we don't agree with what he said. It's not true.

Speaker 1 Duh. Duh.
Nobody really thinks it makes your dick grow. I didn't fuck with Zen before.
I definitely don't know. Scott, why don't you go? It's a corporation.

Speaker 1 Corporations are owned by CEOs. You don't like the nicotine? They're run by people

Speaker 1 who don't want to be involved with anything controversial. And they probably thought that

Speaker 1 being involved with Tucker Carlson was controversial. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 So he started his own thing. So he started his own thing.
It's really good.

Speaker 1 They're better.

Speaker 1 You ever seen Tucker drives like an old school F-100?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he doesn't want the government to have access to his GPS. No electronics.
He's got a carburetor.

Speaker 1 That's like a... Well, if you're that guy, if you're doing

Speaker 1 two-hour episodes about a guy who supposedly sucked Obama's dick. Dude, that was wild.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 I had to listen. Bro, I had to give it a go.
You got to be, you know, watching your six.

Speaker 1 Bro, you're fucking, what did you do? Dude, that was a fight, man. That was a very good fight.
Yeah, he's got that, though, Matthews.

Speaker 1 I think so, too. Yeah, he does, but Prado's a badass motherfucker, man.
Yeah, it's a good fight. Fuck.
Jake's so good and tight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at this, though. Here's the trip.
There's the takedown. Tucker's way bigger now that he's on his own, yeah.
Oh, yeah, way bigger. Way bigger.
He's so good. He's undeniable.

Speaker 1 He's a super nice guy. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, I had a friend of mine had him on his podcast, and he has this lady who works with him that's like real liberal.

Speaker 1 And he said she didn't want to like him, but she loved him by the end of the show.

Speaker 1 This guy's like a nice guy. He's a a great guy.
He knows exactly why he stands where he stands. Like, he's really thought out every position, it feels like.
Well, he's not a liar.

Speaker 1 He was a little weird when he was on Fox because, you know, he's pushing the agenda. But then when he went on his own, I'm like, yeah, I fucked up.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he wasn't a lot of people who were. Towards the end of Fox, towards the end of his run, he was like the only guy on the news talking about real shit.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 talking about things that were very controversial and people did not want him talking about. And that's why they fired him.
They fired him when he was at the top. That's what's crazy.

Speaker 1 He was the number one guy on Fox. That was the Dominion shit, though.
It was a lot of different things. There was multiple different.
I mean, it was, no one was happy.

Speaker 1 Both their Fox and CNN ratings suck. Cock.
5K gets more views. Yeah,

Speaker 1 at this point, it's a weird medium because there's too many commercials. You have to watch it at the time that it's not.
Because that's how they make money through all the advertising.

Speaker 1 And it's all pharmaceutical companies. It's just too hard to compete with the internet when you have that hindering format.

Speaker 1 But also, the news on the internet comes out way faster than on fucking mainstream television news. But I mean, they're good for like people that have

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 editorial talk and breaking things down in a funny way and showing you clips of people going nutty.

Speaker 1 And you know, it's they're good for certain things that's different than the internet. And then they put clips of those things.

Speaker 1 Those things, you know, it's kind of like it's become almost like a viral internet show.

Speaker 1 Because each one of them, like the 15-minute ones, when they put them out, you know, those get a lot of views. Probably more than they even get on television.0.
Yeah, it's weird because it's like

Speaker 1 regular television is bullshit.

Speaker 1 Nobody wants to watch it. Nobody wants to watch a regular television.
You also don't trust it anymore.

Speaker 1 You just don't trust any of it. They even have sitcoms anymore, like new ones and shit.
You know, honestly. Miss Pat has a really good one, but it's on BET's app.
She's great. She's great.

Speaker 1 But other than that, I don't know anybody with sitcoms.

Speaker 1 I like tires with shit.

Speaker 1 That's great. That's kind of a sitcom.
I mean, it's a single camera.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a show. But it's a comedy show.

Speaker 1 It's funny. Oh, it's not.
It's not on Netflix. Netflix.
Netflix got it. We got season two coming.
Oh, that's going to be great. It's all changed so much, man.
That's an enjoyable show.

Speaker 1 His business has changed. He changed the man.
He's funny. Theo and David Spader are doing a sitcom, right?

Speaker 1 There's some funny shit coming back. Even that,

Speaker 1 the heavy. I don't want to say the heavyset Greek guy, but I forgot his name.
He's on your show. Stavo, Stavo.
Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Let's start a cult. It's a good one.

Speaker 1 You see it? No. Oh, it's fucking funny.
Oh, it's like, you know, it's a throwback. It's like a, it's one of those stupid, silly comedies.
It was good, really good. He's a funny dude.

Speaker 1 At your point, there's not a lot, is there? There's not, dude. Well, it used to be the whole thing.
It used to be the whole thing on television was getting a sitcom. There's Stomach.
This is great.

Speaker 1 I love this. I never saw it.
It's good.

Speaker 1 I bought it on Project.

Speaker 1 It's on Hulu. I think I got it after I saw me on here or somewhere.

Speaker 1 This was great. This is a funny movie.
This is

Speaker 1 a funny movie. This is a fun dude.
Because it's not trying to push a fucking...

Speaker 1 It's a movie. It's not giving a message.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's showing his balls.

Speaker 1 It's fucking funny. It's just a funny.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get any messages delivered to me. I just want to have a good time.
He's a funny dude. Yeah, I don't need that.
I don't need you. Don't give me a message.

Speaker 1 I only watch documentaries, really.

Speaker 1 I don't know. J.
Doc, make more. Bro, you know what's good? You know what you like? Nosferato.
Have you seen Nosferado? I watched it.

Speaker 1 That's how it was.

Speaker 1 You listen to your recommendation.

Speaker 1 It's a movie? People love it, too. The best vampire movie of all time.
What do you think of American Prime Evil? Oh, I like it. It's great.
It's fucking great.

Speaker 1 Early on, I told you to watch that. That was fucking good, man.

Speaker 1 That's a great show. It reminds you of

Speaker 1 the one with Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 1 Yes. I just can't stand here while Brennan Shaw was disrespecting Nosferato and shit.
You know why?

Speaker 1 If we're going to discuss it, it's going to be a spoiler.

Speaker 1 How he dies in the end? Ah, just lays down with the chick in the sun. Did a pact.
She gave herself to him.

Speaker 1 Bro, you got to have an option. Wait, is this a remake of the Cadillac one? The old one.
Yeah, but it's got a lot of different shit going on in there.

Speaker 1 But the dude who plays Nosperado is the same dude who played It. He played Pennywise and all that.

Speaker 1 It's really good.

Speaker 1 You know what's a good thing? The best vampire of all.

Speaker 1 Scars something? Bill Scars.

Speaker 1 You see the old man? Jeff Reynolds. It's good for one episode.
I only saw that. That's it, man.
I fell off of it. Yeah, it's really good for one episode.
You're like, wow, can they keep this going?

Speaker 1 And then it gets stupid. Oh, it does? Yeah, they get stupid.
They're like, wait a minute. They'll track you.
This is stupid. Hey, that American Prime Evaluation.
They can find you.

Speaker 1 You can't travel across the country. Shut the fuck.
She's not going to fall in love with you. You kidnapped her.
This is retarded. Hey, that American Prime Evil.

Speaker 1 So is there season two or is it just done? No, it's done.

Speaker 1 Peter Burr can make a fucking movie and a TV show. Oh, yeah.
He made Painkiller. He made Pink Killer.
Yeah, he's a beast. The Sackler.
That's a fucking good. Sackler family thing.

Speaker 1 Why are the Sackler's not on some island somewhere? That's a good question.

Speaker 1 What happens now? Mass murderers. Let's see what happens now with Trump and shit.
Let's see what happens. They're the worst people on the planet.

Speaker 1 Speaking of series, before we get off series, man, because I love this shit. Silo, I'm watching now, which is fucking great.
I'm on the second season.

Speaker 1 I love Find Something Late, so there's like two seasons. I get excited.

Speaker 1 And even better, Grant Dawson, UFC fighter, Grant Dawson, bigger nerd than me. He gives me all shit to watch.

Speaker 1 From.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. From, bro.

Speaker 1 What's from the bro? That's the whitest. Oh, it's good.
Fucking hell shit.

Speaker 1 It was so good, though. We tried to do an Al Jerome Sterling.
We will fucking. So good.
You watching it? What are you doing? What is it on that? I'm finished it. I'm on the first season.

Speaker 1 You guys? It's such a far-away zone.

Speaker 1 You want to explain this?

Speaker 1 It is so good.

Speaker 1 It's almost like a Twilight Zone. They're trapped in a town.
They cannot leave. And at night, these demons come out and kill everyone.
So they have to hide at night.

Speaker 1 Monsters come out at night. Monsters.
Demons. So they got to get people.
What do the monsters look like? People.

Speaker 1 What? They look like people. Yeah.
Without Without giving too much, like the first episode, there's a little girl, and all of a sudden at the window, it's grandma.

Speaker 1 Because they can't come in the house. They can't come in.
So they try to get the kids to let them in the house.

Speaker 1 But they devour them. And you can't fight them.
You can't shoot them. They rip you apart.

Speaker 1 What are they?

Speaker 1 That's the thing. It's almost like a divorce type of show.
Like, you're like, wait, what the fuck are they? How'd they get there? They were all traveling on different parts.

Speaker 1 I don't want to give too much away. But you know what? It's hard to explain.
It is hard to explain. It's very complicated.
What's it on?

Speaker 1 I bought it on Prime.

Speaker 1 I bought it on Apple. The first season on Prime Minister.
Apple. That's right.
Apple, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, so good. Season three?

Speaker 1 I'm on the first season. I'm almost done with it.
Oh, Jesus. It's got three fucking seasons.
Yeah, three seasons. It's fantastic.
Believable and scary as hell. Stephen King.
Balls deep in it, man.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 1 Damn, I'm in. I'm in.
Yeah, it's great. I'm going to write it down.
Put it in my notes. It's worth it.
This fight was epic. Fucking gaslum and

Speaker 1 I'm prepared to die. That's what he said there.
Fucking bad. Best middleweight fight of all time.

Speaker 1 Why do all black guys like anime? That's not true.

Speaker 1 Not all black guys, but most people.

Speaker 1 I've never met a black guy in my life who likes anime.

Speaker 1 You've never met a black guy in my life.

Speaker 1 I haven't eaten one. Are you serious? Because he's the only one I know.
Really? Yeah. I'm thinking my student Marcus, my brother-in-law Edwin, they love.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I I can go on.
Is it a younger kid then? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 No, man. Edwin's, you know, shit.
40? Yeah, he's 40. That's weird.
Or something. Yeah.
I don't know. Not all, but.

Speaker 1 Let me just put that up there. Not all promotes.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 It took the place of Kung Fu movies. Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 These NFL players are arguing over their favorite anime show. Are they really? What is it? NFL players.
All right.

Speaker 1 The first hundred. the first hundred.

Speaker 1 I just fast forward to 200 and get like, oh, it's all animation. My daughter was in the anime hard.
Interesting.

Speaker 1 I can't get into it. Yo, I had my one fighter, young Marcus.
He was down two rounds, and I went in in a third round. I know he loves anime.
I go, Marcus, forget that shit.

Speaker 1 You'll live in your anime movie, and you're the fucking hero. And I fucking went nuts, and he's like, Yeah, yeah.
He went out and fucking strangled the guy in all that.

Speaker 1 I go, dude, come on, man.

Speaker 1 Blackstaw. Oh, let me see that louder, Joe.
Thanks, brother.

Speaker 1 All right. That's weird that that worked.

Speaker 1 Look at a bad kid. What? What'd I do? Look at Izzy, right there.
That's weird.

Speaker 1 Joe, I thought you were going to say he went out and got it knocked out or something that guy. Oh, he's a Hall of Fame inductee.
Fight wing. The Kelvin Gasoline fight.
Oh, my God. Izzy.
Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 That's well worth one of the greatest fights of all time. Legend.
Look at that jacket.

Speaker 1 Oh, what's going on? He just got inducted?

Speaker 1 Yeah, for the Kelvin Gaslin fight. Wow.
Rightfully so. Yeah, rightfully so.
That was an amazing. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That was one of the greatest all-time fights. So good.
Gasline, Gaslin.

Speaker 1 Just pull down there. Oh, boy.
Yeah, just. Oh, here we go.
Cruise. Oh, I got you.

Speaker 1 I'm targeting.

Speaker 1 Target is allowed. Hey, can I have something where you just go like this? Oh, fuck it around.
Is it working? Nah, I don't know. Dude, I listen.
Is it out of juice? Here, I'll help you. All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's out of juice. Oh, here.
Oh, there you go. Thank God.
I thought I was just a moron. Yeah, there's something in there.

Speaker 1 It's in the bottom. It's a little hole.
Where's your school, Matt? Huntington, Long Island.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 I met you in like 98th. 96, probably.
96. 96.
Yeah, when you were on Med TV. That's right.

Speaker 1 At the Gracie Ku Kuck Academy. That's when I got my blue belt from Hansel.
Matt, remember when I met you?

Speaker 1 We went to your gym. It was like

Speaker 1 Bravo. You picked us up at the train station.
Yeah, you had a gig. I was going to fight PJ Penn.
I was fighting PJ Penn. I was leaving that night, I think, to go drive to Connecticut.
That's right.

Speaker 1 And you had a gig somewhere. I picked you and Eddie Bravo up at the Hicksville train station.
Yep. We took a train from the city out to Long Island, went to Matt's gym.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 I showed you my apartment in the basement. Yes, yes, where you piss into the bucket every night.
And he was drinking so much water because he was training and living in the gym.

Speaker 1 So he had an apartment in the gym and he had a big old piss bucket.

Speaker 1 So you could take a jug, like a gallon jug, and stick his dick in it and put it right and screw it back on so he didn't have to get out of bed. He didn't get up.

Speaker 1 It was the best. I pissed him the sink.
I did that for so long that

Speaker 1 even when I got married, I'd be doing it. And then finally, my wife just says, listen, I'm done.
You gotta, I'm done with that shit.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, all right, piss it in a jug next year. She'd be also to just be hearing the fucking pss and the fucking hitting the fucking snapple snapple bottle.

Speaker 1 One time, my mother-in-law was over. One time, she was helping her clean the room.
She's like, why is that the snapple?

Speaker 1 She's like, put it down. Put it down.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 yeah, man. I don't do that no more.
I don't do that no more. But fucking, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll never forget, man. That was like an awesome thing to see, though.
How much dedication you were living in the gym. He just had a bedroom there.

Speaker 1 He's like, all I'm doing is just training, just constant training, living here, teaching and training. I get flashbacks now that now, because sometimes, like on Mondays, I'll do the 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 and I'll do the noon also before I go home and do unfiltered with Jimmy. So I'll take a nap in my lounge, and he brings me like flashbacks of between classes of like when I was younger.

Speaker 1 And I, you know what I mean? But now I got my castle on. Well, how about John Donner? Fucking used to sleep on the mats.
He probably still is. This guy was a professor at Columbia.

Speaker 1 John would be. I mean,

Speaker 1 he was working on his Ph.D. Did John come out here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's out here. Yeah, he's not here.
He was one of the first guys. I talked him into it way back in the day, in the middle of the pandemic.
They were in Puerto Rico. I was like, get out of there.

Speaker 1 He's got a great sense of humor, too.

Speaker 1 People don't know about him. Oh, yeah, he's a little twisted.

Speaker 1 Literally, for a long time, they'd say, if you were like, how you doing? He'd go, go fuck yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Legit hysterical. Legit.

Speaker 1 Always in a fucking rash card, no matter what. Suffers no fools.
No. He's not here.
He's not a man. He's not suffering fools.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fascinating guy, too. I mean, you want to talk about a cheat code that Gordon Ryan has, and he talks about it all the time.

Speaker 1 He's like, you have a guy who's got got maybe the greatest mind ever in combat sports. Yeah.
And he's your coach. And

Speaker 1 he doesn't give a fuck about anything else. When he's not teaching, he's studying tape.
He studies tape all day long. He's just a robot.
He's a minimalist, too, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, Henson was like, sometimes the guy come in, his head is down, he's just feeling like he's too deep, man. He's too deep.
Oh, he's talking about philosophy. His head is all like that.

Speaker 1 Some days you can't talk to the guy.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what do you mean? He's too deep. The guy's too smart for everybody.

Speaker 1 It's crazy, too, that like one thing that was said to him, that Dean Lester said to him once, why would you ignore 50% of the human body? And he was like, that's when he was staying on my futon.

Speaker 1 Really? He was staying with me and Rodrigo Gracie at our apartment in Woodmere.

Speaker 1 And I brought him into the city. I met him in the 2000 Pro-Ams.
We both competed. He competed versus Mark Lehman.
I went versus Leo Veyron.

Speaker 1 And we became friendly with that. And then I had him down.
He was training at Longos. He was staying on my futon.

Speaker 1 And I'd bring him into the city. And that's when he met Shan.

Speaker 1 Back then, nobody was, at least in the heads of those, nobody was really working ankle loss. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He took out most of the academies with that. He was in there taking out your legs.
Nobody. Dean was in his prime.
He was a fucking monster.

Speaker 1 Dean Lister was a monster. He was so hard to deal with.
He's about as thick as a silver back. And he was obsessed with jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 You know, Jocko trained with him, and Jocko said, Literally, he's got a fucking mind like a steel trap for jiu-jitsu, like positions and counters and moves.

Speaker 1 It's like always, like, you you have to be fucking psychotic and obsessed. That's chess.
It's just how long can you do it for? Yeah. Right? And then he started fighting in the UFC.

Speaker 1 And when he was fighting in the UFC, he wasn't a striker. He didn't have striking.

Speaker 1 It just wasn't good enough to hang with the best guys. Because on the feet, he'd be at such a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 And it's so hard to get guys down.

Speaker 1 It's hard. But when it came to like straight jiu-jitsu, Dean Lister was a fucking monster.
Oh, he was great. He was so good.
And he got big. Yeah.
He got big.

Speaker 1 You remember Jeff Munson? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Does he live in Russia now? Is he dead? Yes. He lives in Russia.
He's married to a Russian. He speaks Russian.
Remember that tattoo on his back? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember that there's that picture of him against the fucking SWAT team? Yeah. He's like protesting.
I think he's a communist, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, full-on. Yeah, he's on.
He's in Russia, bro. Yeah.
Like, he's like all in. He's all in with Mother Russia.
He always wanted to be a Russian.

Speaker 1 He's not a guy you want to get into conflict with. He's an odd dude, man.
Oh, fuck. Yeah, he is.
He's He's smart. Yeah.
Well, smart, yeah. He was also built like a grape.

Speaker 1 He was like one gigantic muscle. He was built like a grape.
It was just a grape with giant arms. He was a tank.
Yeah, definitely not. But I'll tell you what, formidable.

Speaker 1 And he was one of the first guys to do north-south chokes. And because he was so strong, people assumed that it was a goon move.
Look at him.

Speaker 1 That it was just, he would just grab your neck and squeeze it. And then people realized, like, no, it's basically like a guillotine from a different position Yeah, he's a badass.

Speaker 1 Oh my god Look at the size of him

Speaker 1 That was when he's at full juicy juice. He looks he looks great.

Speaker 1 Listen find that picture of him in the riots good fucking like and you can tell the guy the riot guy's like what the he's a cartoon look at him. He's standing there with his fucking

Speaker 1 Jesus hammer and sickle tattoo monster guys with big chests that know if my father was used to be good at that. My father was a black is a black belt on the henzo.

Speaker 1 Just some other guys and then give you joker. He was at

Speaker 1 NCAA champ or he was at internet second on on his Twitter? Yeah, and it's like capitalism. He's got a guy with a gun to another guy's head.
It says capitalism.

Speaker 1 He's standing in front of these Ryan guys.

Speaker 1 How tall is the person that took the picture, Kim Sylvia?

Speaker 1 Well, it's obviously like an angle shot because he's not that tall, but that's a terrifying.

Speaker 1 He's starting as a wrestler, right? He wrestled.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he was an excellent wrestler. He was like very, very, very, very hard to beat in jiu-jitsu, too.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 How do you choke a guy? What do you do with these?

Speaker 1 He's just strong, too. Just so strong.

Speaker 1 And fucking durable as shit as a fighter, too. Remember, we fought Chuck Liddell?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was durable, man. Monson was a monster.
Big fucking dude, man. Here goes Jimmy Cruz.
There we go. I gotta swore that someone had said this was off the card.
I think they lost three fights.

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Speaker 1 Mark Goddard looks like a sturdy individual. Oh, he's a big fucker.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a black belt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Here we go.
Oh, boy. He looks casual.

Speaker 1 Am I wrong in that crude used to fight middleweight?

Speaker 1 They're big boys, man. And look at that.
I think so. That haircut is fantastic.
I'm pretty sure it's aerodynamic. It looks thick.
Yeah. It looks thick.

Speaker 1 Looks like he's wearing Davy Crockett's hat. Look at that shit.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Cruz's been in some crazy wars. A lot of

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Come on. This one's not going to last long.

Speaker 1 Snap.

Speaker 1 It's that first

Speaker 1 touch. I think you have heavyweights next, right? You got Taffa and the new kid who's undefeated.

Speaker 1 Man, the heavyweight division is so shallow. I was just thinking that the other day because if they don't make John Jones versus Tom Aspinall,

Speaker 1 what is compelling? Nothing. Unless they bring Francis back, unless the PFL collapses and he gets released.
That could happen. Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's

Speaker 1 a good one. That's a fuck up.
That's all the fuck up. Oh, shit.
That's a big one. It's like starting a fight for mount.
Look at this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, he's got the neck.
The only way he gets this is if he gives it to him. If he wants out.

Speaker 1 This is a terrible position for you. Dude, how's your elbow escape doing, pal? Wow.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Get those hips movement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 He's got a good top game, too.

Speaker 1 When he is visualizing his head before the fight, he probably didn't visualize this.

Speaker 1 Good pressure there with that right bicep, too. Good pressure on the arm.
Hello, a tattoo. Hell of a fucking tattoo.
Jeez, I think his arm looks... Oh, he's hitting some hard shots.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Get that smothering shoulder pressure.
Smothering shoulder. Oh, look at that arm triangle.
Look at that arm triangle. Yeah, that's some good pressure.
He could get his way to three.

Speaker 1 These are hard fucking left hands, too, and they're not getting blocked.

Speaker 1 Like, he's getting some good power in this. He doesn't like it.

Speaker 1 Ooh. I don't think he's got any answers.
It's called manicuring the target. Once you see the

Speaker 1 he's going under, he's going under.

Speaker 1 He's looking for fucking Kamura. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's looking for anything.

Speaker 1 He's got good control.

Speaker 1 He's controlling the hips. He's going to spin to the back.
He's spinning to the back after this shit. He might take a Dars.
He might take a Dars.

Speaker 1 Nah, go. Yeah.
Yeah, Anaconda. Here he goes.
Oh, here he goes. All right.
All right. The kid's aware.
Let's see. He's awesome.

Speaker 1 He's pummeled. Yeah.
He's getting pummeled. He's got a rape joke.
Let's go. Did they still call it the rape joke? Is that fine? They got mad at me for calling that the

Speaker 1 water. What do you call it? It's the Vanderlay Silver Rape.
I know. That's what we used to call it.

Speaker 1 The problem is that in training, we call it the Rape Choice.

Speaker 1 And then I said it in competition. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 We lost this fight. Canceled some weight management issue.
That guy's fired. That was the only one? Oh, is that the one we lost today? That today's?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He can go to three quarters here, too. so for

Speaker 1 if we're not calling the rape truck what should we refer to in this they tell you to call it joe they didn't have give me a name i said it doesn't really have another name and then someone said you should call it the eagle claw i'm like shut the fuck up

Speaker 1 i guess you'd call it like a flow

Speaker 1 damn it god flowing it's flowing nice man oh big elbow

Speaker 1 he's beating this smart and diving for the back and ending up on bottom you know he's also taking advantage of the dude exploded and then he pummels him with a couple of elbows when he's knows you're trying to relax a little bit Those kids could be exhausted.

Speaker 1 100%. He's already exhausted.

Speaker 1 He had to explode to try to get to that position.

Speaker 1 He's not going to be able to do that. And it didn't work.

Speaker 1 And now he's demoralized. He's too flat.
He's going to threaten the Kimora again. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Not much time to work, but he's got such dominant position. I'd like to see him soften him up some more.
Try to get more damage. Try to fucking move to him.
He's trying to get the mount.

Speaker 1 He's going to push that low.

Speaker 1 Or he can take that. He's going to take the Kimura from there.
Or he can take the back. There's a nice Kimura guard pass from there.
A Kimora half-guard pass. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Oh, he just

Speaker 1 full control.

Speaker 1 He's fully confident. This round's ending on top.
The way he rode him right there, that's like, I could just do this all night long. That was like no worry about losing position.

Speaker 1 He just got to get out of that. I assume a guy on the bottom, those are his coaches.
They're going, get up. But he's doing such a good job controlling.
I would say, get out of that half-card.

Speaker 1 He knows his escape routes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he doesn't have many options. But he's using the half car to control him a little bit.
Oh, he gets back. There we go.
There we go. Nice.
Boom, boom, boom. Oh, right hand.

Speaker 1 Oh, he landed one. He landed one, too.
He's exhausted. Oh, dude.
I like this. 20 to go.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. He dropped him.
The fuck. Oh.
This kid's having the roughest night.

Speaker 1 You got 10 seconds. Come on.
15 seconds. Come on.
I hope he gets another round. He just looked up at the clock.
That's a rough round. Hold on.
10 seconds. Come on.
Worst first.

Speaker 1 We need a second elbows. No, we need a second.

Speaker 1 Don't do it. Don't do it.
Oh, he's getting it. You're okay.
You're okay. You're okay.

Speaker 1 This is a 10-8 round, yes. Oh, yeah.
10-8 round. Where I come from, that's 10-8.
10-8 round. They don't throw out 10-8.
They need to throw those bitches out more often.

Speaker 1 Man, they're so stingy with the time.

Speaker 1 I mean, how much time did he have on top? How much time? He kept flowing, beat him up. His mouth is closed.
He's breathing. He's fine.
He got more.

Speaker 1 Look at Brian's rooting for. I'm not saying.
I'm just saying. His coaches are going weird.
Don't do that again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's never that much.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. You're a smile.
I don't think he landed anything.

Speaker 1 no no that was a 10 8 it's a 10 8 yeah full domination on the ground brutal ground and pound heard him standing up planet turtle guys plan a turtle first round guys he's a thick neck he's got a thick neck he's fine

Speaker 1 his cardio's on point what jamie he's not breathing heavy five to sixty two strength wow five to sixty two that's a lot good that's a lot that sucks if that's not a 10-8 round bro yeah it's 10 8 bro but they need to do that more often because there's too many close rounds that they give 10 9 and then they give a right a round like this this a 10-nine dude damn i i've been saying this forever we need to get off that fucking stupid boxing system yeah mma has too many factors to just have a 10-point system doesn't make any sense why are they not changing that i don't know they should change because they don't know how to kind of come up with an agreed upon well doc hamilton came up with a another system back in the day he called it a half-point system and he explained it to me and it made more sense like there was instead of like full points for certain things give half points for certain things you remember the masses though are familiar with the scoring structure, so they didn't confuse them more.

Speaker 1 That's PFL's problem. The smart cage, suck my dick.
Well, here's another problem. Only three judges.
Why? Tell me why. Are judges expensive? Get five judges or six judges.
Have a bunch of judges.

Speaker 1 But they also shouldn't be rings cage-side. Sure, they're too hard to see.
As long as they have monitors. They have monitors now.
Yeah, but they can get swayed by the crowd.

Speaker 1 They should be in a disclosed area. No.
There should be five unknowns.

Speaker 1 You want to hear the

Speaker 1 Ukrainians. You want to hear the

Speaker 1 Ukraine?

Speaker 1 You want to hear the gun trains. You want to be there.
You should be in a drone.

Speaker 1 You want to hear guys yelling at each other. You want to be right there.
Get an aerial point.

Speaker 1 Kroots got nice shots. Because for you to say that, like, well, I should probably be doing commentary somewhere else, too.
But no, you want to be like right there.

Speaker 1 No, because you're not dictating the fight. That's true, but if I'm

Speaker 1 looking at it, but some of those guys jump. I don't.
No, they don't. I would rather have you judge the fight.
Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 Lieban is obviously going to do a great job. Ricardo Almeida is going to do a great job.
There's a bunch of people. Look, the LA card had great scoring.

Speaker 1 The LA card didn't have any egregious decisions. There was not one where everybody was like, what the fuck is that? Right.
That's pretty rare. That's rare.
Because

Speaker 1 a lot of times when it's so atrocious. Dude, you're talking about that dude gets half his fucking pay, you idiots.
I know. It's insane.
It is insane. A tough call is rough.

Speaker 1 Anytime you get it. My wife just had a kickboxing match over the weekend.
Oh, title fight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's 41. She went versus.

Speaker 1 She lost a split decision. decision i gave her every fucking round i know it's my why dude i'll show it sticking and moving combos wow it was a split decision she fought a 26 year old my wife's 41.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah i'm so proud it's amazing too because she got into everything late dude she never when i was when i was fighting she never threw a punch what never threw a punch was she an athlete

Speaker 1 nothing in high school nothing in high school just a little italian girl how old are your kids matt my oldest is going to be 16 next month so they did and did they go to any of your fights no so and they've been

Speaker 1 i was gonna say they think the mom's the fighter little they know the dad

Speaker 1 no it's funny yeah no it's funny those italian ladies have genetic anger she's she's got you know they got a genetic anger inside of them yeah they're strong i am muscle

Speaker 1 your wife's italian too no

Speaker 1 i gave off on italians when i was 21. oh you're funny i was like i love it i can't be damaged what is your wife which is

Speaker 1 why yeah but yeah a lot of viking shit yeah

Speaker 1 this is a good fight.

Speaker 1 But your wife is wife. Irish Italian.
Irish Italian.

Speaker 1 She came off the Mayflower son. No,

Speaker 1 she's Irish, half Sicilian, half Sicilian, half Irish. Oh, she's half Sicilian.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 Piloto's went on a lot of good solid leg kicks.

Speaker 1 Isn't it crazy, Matt? Like your whole career, did you get calf kicked once? Not once.

Speaker 1 It's a new trend. I'm so happy it came after.

Speaker 1 Did you get kicked in the thigh, though? Not a ton, ton, right? Well, I mean, yeah, in training, but in training.

Speaker 1 Matt, who was I was good at catching it and coming with a right, to be honest. Or the guys did cake.
Because you could take it down. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was good at catching it right hand down the middle. But isn't it crazy?

Speaker 1 Like, there's never been a technique like the calf kick where all of a sudden it came along and everybody had it and changed the course of fights. And it's nothing crazy.
Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy.

Speaker 1 And we kick it in the low. We still don't know why the ties never did it.
Or do it.

Speaker 1 Well, they stand with that left leg light. Oh, is that what you do? Because they don't have to worry about takedown.
So they stand straight up. So they stand straight up.

Speaker 1 And you see the ties fight, that left leg is very light. So they check it.
It's just not good for getting taken down. It's not a good strategy.
Unless you have elite, like BJ Penn type bounce.

Speaker 1 These guys are fucking banging, man. Yeah, he's coming back.
Jesus,

Speaker 1 he's so fucking tall. He's so fucking rugged.
He's actually, but he's also kind of like catching a lot of the shots off his glass. He's spinning up a good round after getting dominated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's actually...

Speaker 1 A lot of the shots are grazing. He's got...
Well, he's landing a lot of hard leg kicks, man. Look, he did it it again and again and again.
That left leg Crutz is going to get chewed the fuck up.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? Did you say Crutz going to knock him out? Yeah, I think Crude's going to knock him out. Really? He's landing pretty flush.
The kid's not moving. Yeah, Cruz is.

Speaker 1 He's also exhausted.

Speaker 1 Oh, you might be right. He just tagged him with two hard ones, man.
He's catching him a lot now.

Speaker 1 Cruz's just a better boxer.

Speaker 1 This kid's hands are down. Oh, he's getting.
Those low kicks, though, are brutal.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. This kid is rugged.
Jesus. They're both.
God dumb.

Speaker 1 He's got enough snap on it on the one line.

Speaker 1 Oh, Another low kick. Not good for your head.
I'm telling you, he lived a little on that one. Okay, he don't like it.
Nope. He's trying to change stances.

Speaker 1 Yeah, his left leg's fucked right now.

Speaker 1 I didn't see that. Oh,

Speaker 1 he kicked the mullet.

Speaker 1 Oh, he tried to do one himself.

Speaker 1 Like Charlie Brown, though. Oh, that was terrible.
He got. That's bad.
But it's also his left leg is toast. Oh, he tries to spin it on that.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like, oh, this thing don't even work anymore.
That's a great round. A great way to ran.
That's a great round. I don't know who won that round.
I think I was doing that.

Speaker 1 I think Croot's got this.

Speaker 1 I think the other guy's got to go for broke. He has to, especially that first round.
10-8, even if he won that last round. He's tired, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's ahead-one round for sure. At least one point.
Even if that guy got 10-9 this round. Yeah.
So he has to. And that's a drop.
It could be a draw if he loses the next round.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I think Croot's well.
Dude, Crude again? I mean, you just don't know. I think also they're in Australia.
They're probably going to favor Croot. Yeah.
Well, Croot's catching him more.

Speaker 1 He definitely hit him with some good shots. Yeah, he hit hit him with the more meaningful blows for sure.

Speaker 1 But damn, those fucking, that's a lot of damage. He's soccer kicking his leg.

Speaker 1 How much does that count for?

Speaker 1 I don't think as much as headshots. The judges.
The judges don't.

Speaker 1 Definitely not as much as headshots, but man, it should mean a lot. Like when Pereira hits you there,

Speaker 1 it's just a few of those, and you see guys like even guys like Jan Bohovich, who's made out of metal. That guy was limping.
Like, he didn't like it. He's like 43 now.

Speaker 1 Jan is like in his 40s, but still top of the heap. People keep leaving him out of the discussion.
But that guy went to a draw with Ankhalaev. Yeah.
And I mean, he's the first guy to go to decision.

Speaker 1 No, second guy, Bruno Silva, went through a decision with Alex too. By the way, that'd be good.
You're right, Joe.

Speaker 1 That low kick is causing some problems.

Speaker 1 Oh, he keeps switching up. Bro, his left leg is making gun shy as fuck.
He's landed like 30 of them. He keeps kicking them.
Jan's okay, because light heavyweight's pretty light, too.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, just people are sleeping on him. They're not bringing up Jan Bohovich to the discussion of like who's next.
It's Yuri. It's these guys.
It's that guy.

Speaker 1 It's like, you got to bring Jan into that discussion. And he just went through major surgery.
He had a shoulder surgery. Yeah.
Yeah. He tore something in his shoulder.

Speaker 1 I don't know when he's ready to return. I don't even know if he's done rehab.
I'm not sure. But, I mean, out of respect, I feel like you got to bring that guy up.
He's an animal.

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe, out of left field, but with the stem cells, when you get that shit out here, do you get the IV? Yes. Do you get the IV?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because i plan on going to colombia with my well they can do way more down there okay i then legal it they can do a lot but it might i don't know what the actual dose you need is so this is what brigham's argument is at ways too well he's like look we have an amazing results with what we can use here in america and i they definitely use more cells in these other places and there's certain things they can do like in mexico and Panama and Colombia that they just can't do here.

Speaker 1 The question is, is it more effective? This is the problem with it not being legalized with the FDA.

Speaker 1 Because if it was, and you could do in Mexico what you could do here, then you would be able to say, oh, this is too much. This is the right amount.
Do more than this.

Speaker 1 It's just like your body doesn't utilize it. It's like there's a number that you're probably going to get to that's the right amount of cells.

Speaker 1 We don't really know. All we know is it works.
We do know what works, though.

Speaker 1 The scientists say it.

Speaker 1 I had a full-length rotator cuff tear in my shoulder. It's gone.
Wow. See, that's what I'm saying, saying, man.
I never had shoulder issues, and now I'm feeling my right shoulder bad.

Speaker 1 So you're so rough on your shoulders. You think how many times you're in weird positions and you're pushing off, but I mean scrambling and your arm hits the ground.

Speaker 1 And I'm still on the mat, so

Speaker 1 I want to keep the body together.

Speaker 1 We can get you here. We can get you in here.
And if that works, you know, you don't need anything else. But the other thing is peptides.
Get yourself some BBC 157, TB500. That's

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Wolverine.

Speaker 1 Travis Pestrona is talking about he had a fucking

Speaker 1 shoulder problem for two years. I think his shoulder.
He did stem cells. No, he did

Speaker 1 BP157. BC157.
He said that in a week, it was gone.

Speaker 1 It was gone in a week. Yeah, I had a knee issue.
Remember, Joe? Yeah, Crew. So I hit you up about doing stem cells.
And I saw that BC157 from Transcend. Dude, I don't have any issues with my knee.

Speaker 1 It's incredible.

Speaker 1 I run that.

Speaker 1 Sounds like a fucking droid.

Speaker 1 You turn it into Wolverine. It heals.
It heals quick. Dude, look at this.
And that's why why it's healing.

Speaker 1 This is interesting. I need it.

Speaker 1 Why are you using something that's not approved by the FDA? Brenda? I turn 50, man. I need this shit.
Why are you using something that's not approved? Why are you giving out advice in a public forum?

Speaker 1 Not approved by the FDA.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't like looking in the mirror. It just gets worse every fucking six months.
Just go bald like these guys, Brian, for God's sake. I hope that hair transfer all changes with

Speaker 1 the RFK. If he gets in, I hope that peptides become everywhere.

Speaker 1 He can help a lot of people. And by the way, this fucking, this Wagovi shit, this Ozempic shit, that's a peptide.
Yep. Is it? Yeah, GLP1 agonist.
Wow.

Speaker 1 I hope he chills out on the vaccines for kids, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Oh, another low kick. Oh, my goodness.
So.

Speaker 1 That left kick, that left leg route has got to be fucked up. I can't believe this guy's still even in the fight, though.
It's a good fight.

Speaker 1 He's kind of, he's borderline winning this round. He's doing good this round.
round. Kevin Aioli, who's pretty fucking good at judging fights, been around for fucking ever.

Speaker 1 Gave the last round to your guy, Brian. He did.
He has it in 1919. See, the thing is, it's like those leg kicks have compromised him so badly, and he keeps landing them.

Speaker 1 Like, Croot just can't get off. He can't move right now.
See, like, even as he's closing the distance, scored there. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 he's falling forward. His left leg is all fucked up.
He's scored again, though.

Speaker 1 He is making contact with his head. He's making contact, but he's like, he's limited to like one leg in his arms.
Yeah. Still catching them.
Oh, my God. He's trying to go south paw now.
Jesus,

Speaker 1 this is rough. Bro, that's a tough way to make a living.
Low kick has changed this whole fight. Another one.

Speaker 1 He hit him another one. He's a soccer kicking that.
And another one.

Speaker 1 Bro, it's just, he's relentless with that low-kick. And I love when guys do that.
I want to see more of that because it changes everything.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Dude, keep your tongue in your mouth, bro. Get that shit in the face.
Oh, he's a little bit of a sneak.

Speaker 1 slapped.

Speaker 1 So disrespectful. Yeah, he ran into the cave.
No, no, that cool. That's fucking sane.
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 It was insane, dude. He hit him with like a karate chop.
Good God. Like a jumping karate chop.
I think crude got it. I think so, too.
Who knows, man? Hell of a fight. It's close.
That could be a draw.

Speaker 1 If anything, it's a draw. That could be a draw.
I would have to go watch the second round and not talk. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh, back kick.

Speaker 1 Honestly, he caught him with the toes, though. Spent more time on top.
And did did he get a 10-8 round? Yeah, you're also assuming a 10-8.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 when you land a back kick with the toes, it doesn't have much on it because your foot gives.

Speaker 1 So, like, when you land it with your toes, like that, sidekick style, your foot gives. Oh, you really want to land it with the heel

Speaker 1 like John Jones did with Stipe. Oh,

Speaker 1 Lord. Heavy weight to do a spin

Speaker 1 kick. And perfect.
Like, right, you see,

Speaker 1 we watched it in slow-mo to watch his ribs cave in. Nasty.
Bro, it's like halfway into his body cavity.

Speaker 1 Rough.

Speaker 1 Why is he sticking his tongue out? His tongue is sticking. Dude, he's doing that for like fucking 10, five seconds.
That's the last few seconds of the fight.

Speaker 1 You gotta jab that shit, you lose your tongue. He's gonna be limping for a good two weeks.
Oh, yeah. Fuck.
Those leg kicks swell up so much.

Speaker 1 You took those from Gonzaga. That must have been.

Speaker 1 And the next morning at the airport, I have to be in a wheelchair. Are you serious? Yeah.
I beat the brakes off of him, and I was in a wheelchair. He's walking around.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Leg kicks are horrible. The worst.
Remember Aldo and Uriah Faber? That was the worst guy. Here it is.
Watch this.

Speaker 1 Watch how deep John's heel goes into Steve's body. Look at this.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Look how deep it goes into his fucking rib cage, bro.

Speaker 1 All of his organs just had to get compressed. Fuck you.
Perfect. It's a perfect horse kick in you.
Perfect spinning back. It's like a hoe.
It is like a hoes. Bro, it's such a powerful kick.

Speaker 1 There's so much torque. Boom.

Speaker 1 How deep it goes in. That is so crazy.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Here's the judging.

Speaker 1 It's a draw. He won.
Now Cruz won.

Speaker 1 Majority draw. Really?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 He should have. That means he didn't get that.
I don't get it. That's the 10-8 round the first round.
And that means the other guy won the next two, and that's it. I don't think it's one judge.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's surprising. We'd have to watch that second fight, or second round, rather.
It's close. Nobody got robbed.
You would say crew got robbed.

Speaker 1 Shit. I have no problem with draws.
Oh, no, we got the heavyweight. That dude's a savage.
Yeah, heavyweight. That should be a cool.
Diego Lopez versus Yair Rodriguez. They're going to do.

Speaker 1 That'll be sick. Is that what they're doing? That's what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 That's what I heard. I think Lopez is that announced? Is coming?

Speaker 1 I don't know how Yair gets down to 45. That fucking guy's huge.

Speaker 1 So is Lopez, bro. Lopez is big.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah. Diego's big.
And Diego's got something. Papa Papa power.
Those fight nerds are onto something.

Speaker 1 Steve Ursig. Moreno.
Brandon Moran. That's a good fight.

Speaker 1 Ursig had a great fight with Pantoja. He did.
He had a ball. He's a popular.
Real close fight with Pantoja. Real close fight.
And when you know how good Pantoja is, that's super impressive.

Speaker 1 Who's Murab fighting next? O'Malley? That's a good question. I don't think that's...
Nothing's been even out of the way.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're just letting him have his victory lap now before they start talking about who's next.

Speaker 1 They should. He deserves it.
But

Speaker 1 I'd like to see Santhagen, but he has to have a win, right?

Speaker 1 He lost to Umar. I wouldn't be mad if they just gave him a shot, though.
Eight. Diego Lopez dismisses Yaya Rodriguez's rumors.
Wants Volkanovsky at UFC 314. Oh, he tomisss.

Speaker 1 I think Diego needs one more before he fights for a title. One more tough guy.
Eight. Wow.
What about Peter Jan versus Umar? Who's winning with that? What'd you say? Peter Jan versus Umar.

Speaker 1 He's got a motherfucking fight.

Speaker 1 Peter Jan looks fantastic. And he switches it up, too, with the grappling, too.
I love his trip. I love that front trip he he does on everybody.
Oh, yeah. Do you think that's what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Murab did a Peter Young. How many fucking 30 takedowns? Shot 30 takedowns? Animal.
You do 30 takedowns in this fucking studio. You're fucking dog.
It's one of my favorite moments.

Speaker 1 Peter Young's ever in the corner. Peter Young's boxing is fucking almost everything.

Speaker 1 Did you see his last fight? After

Speaker 1 he had surgery and came back? Bro, he looked fantastic. What did he have surgery on? We were talking about it.
Remember? You and I watched that morning.

Speaker 1 What did he have surgery on? I think shoulder. Damn.
He's fucking great, man. I mean, Sean motherfucking Strickland.
He's keeping the perf stash. I like it.
I love him.

Speaker 1 Do you think he had staff on his left arm? Sure, looks like it, doesn't it? It looked like staff to me. Do you look like staff to you, Matt?

Speaker 1 It's hard to tell. I mean, it could be an ingrown hair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could be a fucking ingrown hair. Ingrown hair is staff.

Speaker 1 That's what it is.

Speaker 1 Could be staff. Ingrown hair becomes staff.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of times. Folliculitis.
If this fight goes past the first round, we're fucked. But homeboy on the right is a problem.
Is he? Don't judge him off that body shot. Well, what about Taffa?

Speaker 1 Don't judge him off his body either. Taffa can count.
He's Samoa.

Speaker 1 He's Samoan, so it doesn't count. Taffa can smoke.
He's Samoan, so he's Moana style. It doesn't count.
Taffa is a dangerous fellow. Yeah, that's not that body.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 But he's 7-0, undefeated prospect. They put him on here for a finish.
Like, you know, if you're here, if you're third on the card,

Speaker 1 you got to go for finishes. Yep.
Is he Brazilian? To Cheryl. Oh, yeah.
Looks it. Looks it.
He's a savage from Brazil. Finisher.
I like a dude with an eyebrow scar, too.

Speaker 1 Both of them. He has a head.
He's like a Lego piece, right? Yeah. I mean, someone else.
7-0. Yeah, he's a problem.
Bro, is Mark Hunt really fighting Ben Rothwell in bare knuckle fighting?

Speaker 1 That's what I heard. In BKFC? Yeah.
Jesus. You see Ben Rothwell? Do you see his KO? Yes.
Oh, my goodness. Oh, it's cool.
He's one punch. That's beautiful.
Ben.

Speaker 1 Ben has a great one punch. He's built for BKFC.
He's an animal, too. That's a big fucker, too.
Rothwell responds to Mark Hunt's call out, let's fucking go, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Jesus, I watched that. Perfect.

Speaker 1 Why do they have to give you an asterisk? So pretend this doesn't have a U there.

Speaker 1 Why do they do that? That's so stupid. Silly.
Damn, this dude's big. Yeah.
Big, long prospect. What's his weight?

Speaker 1 How tall is he? Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 All the weight. How's his ground game?

Speaker 1 6'7'260. Wow.
Or 6'280. 6'2? 6'7, 260.
Jesus's. Dude, I could fucking walk between his legs.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That dude that Francis beat up in Bellator or TFL.

Speaker 1 That guy was tall. That guy was scary.
That guy was scary. Hennon Farrar.

Speaker 1 How old is Francis now? He's got to be 37. 49.
Oh, he's only 37?

Speaker 1 What did he say? 49. You never know.
You never know. It doesn't matter.
Well, dude's from Cuba. Like, they've always said Yoel's 50.
Yeah, I was speaking.

Speaker 1 The old guys.

Speaker 1 What is that, the league? Are you with that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, talk to me.

Speaker 1 I'm comedy for him. Oh, is it legit? It's half legit, yeah.
So they're throwing a lot of money around, right? They're throwing a lot of money around.

Speaker 1 Is that how they got guys like Wideman and all these guys to come out of retirement? Longo's coaching. Yeah, Longo's coaching.
Cane Velasquez coaching. Javi Armendez.
Who's fighting?

Speaker 1 What are the people that are fighting? The main fight that I'm told is Darren Dannis, Tony Ferguson. Oh, my God.
Shogun's back. Fabrice over Doom is back.
I thought Fabriso retired.

Speaker 1 A lot of people retired, right? They decided, fucking

Speaker 1 coaxed them in with the money. So this is their first card?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 that's the Brazilian team. That's the Sao Paulo.
So there's six teams. New York, Miami, L.A., Sao Paulo,

Speaker 1 Abu Dhabi, and London.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yo, what up? What up, Wyman? Dude, you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm laughing at Wyman retiring, and then all of a sudden the next day you see him on a side.

Speaker 1 You know what I love about it? Longo picked Wydeman second. Wydeman goes, what the fuck? Who'd he pick first?

Speaker 1 I want to say Kevin Lee. Anthony Pettis versus Jeremy Stevens is wild.
Oh, my God. Hector Lombard and Yoel Romero, the Battle of Cuba.
Oh, man. Oh my God, they used to train together.

Speaker 1 They're on the same team, but. Oh, my goodness.
The Miami roster. I don't know.
He pays fucking cash.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where's that guy getting all the money?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you something. Marlon Marais, at one point in time, I thought he was the man.

Speaker 1 When he knocked out Al Joe, I was like, oh, my God, he might be the guy. It was a rough start for him and Marab, too, with that fight.

Speaker 1 The crazy thing about that is... Oh, it's a hudo? He fucks a hudo up in the first round.

Speaker 1 Oh I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Murab was so wild because at the same round,

Speaker 1 it almost stopped, got stopped because Murab switched it around and beating the crap out of him by the end of it. Gaygard, man.
Gaygard is the guy that people have been sleeping on. Incredible.

Speaker 1 He still has a lot of fights. Oh, but he got out of his PFL Bellator contract to fight with GM.
He had many fights. Why couldn't they get anything? He wouldn't fight him.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's going to find anyone. So they're talking about Gaygard, Luke Rockold.
That'd be a dope fight. Could they not get someone to fight him? Or

Speaker 1 they didn't want to pay? They didn't want to pay because he had a high contract. So they let him go.
Bro. I just had Kat Zangano down at the school doing a seminar.
She's great. She's great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she did a great seminar. But when you think about all the leagues, it's the same business model as anything.

Speaker 1 You get the casuals in with the huge names with like Woodley, you know, Shogun, Rashad, so people pay attention. And then you have the young guys like Kevin Lee.
You got Sage Northcutt.

Speaker 1 So you're hoping the young guys eventually take over. I thought Rashad said he wasn't signed up up to it.
So here's the thing with that. I was there.

Speaker 1 I was seeing Darren, the owner of PFL or GFL Tech's

Speaker 1 his manager. And he goes, he's in.
He goes, yes. So he didn't have straight dialogue with Rashad, but he assumed the agent representing him.
When he says yes, he's good to go.

Speaker 1 So he announced it and Rashad's like, I never said yes.

Speaker 1 That's between you and your agent, homeboy. I see.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's try one of these. What is dry? Is that your shirt? Drive fast, all gas? Bro, where's mine? Where's one of them, bitches? I don't know.
You drive Tesla. I like those.

Speaker 1 I like the way it looks. What does it say in the back? Anti-electric vehicle club? Oh, how dare you? Well, no, you can drive it in your fucking drone.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you're going to be here in an electric vehicle. I didn't ask for that.
I asked for your GT fucking 4G. Your electric vehicle is something else, though.

Speaker 1 I'm a little jealous, and I'm not in the car. But like I was telling you at dinner, my thing was I was so angry at Newsom trying to ban combustion engines.

Speaker 1 I fucking had so much anger, but now I'm moving to Austin. It's kind of leaving.
Good, good. Tesla's got a factory here.
I know, and there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Get yourself a cyber truck and put the fighter in the kid logo.

Speaker 1 Just drive around town like a parade.

Speaker 1 Call and drive that.

Speaker 1 Call and will drive that.

Speaker 1 You know, I'll drive. I'll do that for you, Callan.

Speaker 1 Can I get a clip here? A clipper? It's on the lighter. Oh, I'm sorry.
Where's the lighter? Who's got the lighter? Oh, right here.

Speaker 1 Does that work for you? It's on the back of the lighter. Did you get to work for you? The back of the lighter pops back, and there's a clipper.
Did you get that lighter to work for you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 Just push it back.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. 6'7, dude.
Dude.

Speaker 1 6'7. Dude, there was one time in the airport.
I took the shuttle over, and it was me, and I was talking to him. Very nice guy, Stephan Strove.
Oh, he's the bad.

Speaker 1 And then we started walking through the airport together. I go, hey, man, I got to go to the other.

Speaker 1 I can't do this. I feel like I'm walking with a kid with his dad.

Speaker 1 He's legit. He's legit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's gigantic. He's huge.
I ran into Mark Hunt at the airport, and I was like starstruck. I love Mark Hunt.

Speaker 1 As a K-1 fan, I was like, Man, it's kind of crazy that people don't know who you are and just wandering around this airport. Like, you're a legend.
The hardcores do, though. They're freaking out.

Speaker 1 That would be crazy if you fought Rothwell and Bare Knuckle. Oh, my God.
That's my thing. Who the fuck signed up to fight? Y'all Romero and Bare Knuckles? Some poor savage.

Speaker 1 He fought a guy from PowerSlap, and he fucking decapitated me. That was horrifying.
That was hard.

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The power slap guy was like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 1 I can't do that. That's when you knew he fucked up.
He jumped up like one of them Messiah Warriors. Like it looks like effortless.
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He can close distance like when he knocked out Wideman with that flying knee. In his 40s.
He sneaks you into like this rhythm.

Speaker 1 He sneaks you into a rhythm. He like relaxes you and then he fucking explodes on you.
He did it to Izzy. He caught Izzy with a haymaker of a left hand.
And that's why Izzy didn't play the game.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 They're so boring. He's like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 You go fight that.

Speaker 1 He was getting kicked in the leg, kicked in the leg for five rounds. They go, how's your leg? He gets up and starts dancing.
Yeah, you don't feel shit.

Speaker 1 There's no way this fight goes past the first one. Jeez.

Speaker 1 No, this kid's a sad. Oh, my God.
Nice kicks. He skips chest, Dave.
How is his?

Speaker 1 Well, he's got to make weight. He probably can't put on any muscle.
You can put on some muscle. What is his ground game? Oh, my God.
He shoots for a fucking takedown. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 He's got a ground game?

Speaker 1 Does he have a ground game? I don't think Taffa does.

Speaker 1 We haven't seen it because we haven't.

Speaker 1 Oh, nasty. Oh, we heard him already.
That was an illegal knee. That was an illegal knee.
What's it? Is he down? Yeah, he's down when he hit it with that knee.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure with the new rules, he might not have had his knee all the way to the ground yet. We'd have to see it again.
And it was in transition, though, so he's good, right?

Speaker 1 My first instinct was that was an illegal knee.

Speaker 1 I think he knocks him down first, Joe. He definitely did.
Oh, yeah. He definitely did.

Speaker 1 Taffa looks mad.

Speaker 1 He's upset. I think that they stopped it or is it the knee? It's the elbow that put his ass down though

Speaker 1 It was it was but that knee but it was

Speaker 1 in transition I think you're good perhaps it depends on how much time has elapsed right between the shots shot a high double

Speaker 1 So there's the knee to the body

Speaker 1 yeah the elbow is nasty.

Speaker 1 That's a nasty knee too. Boom.
Oh my goodness. Okay, that was perfect.
It looked right there. See, fully down.
Fully down. It hit his body, though.
He hit the body, though. It did it?

Speaker 1 I thought it hit the head. Nah, I see it.
Let's see it again. This for sure breaks his nose.
Oh, my God. That's insane.
That's so good. That's so good.

Speaker 1 100%, bro. 100%.
That nose is gone. And then watch the knee here.
It hits it.

Speaker 1 We'll see it again. Yeah.
Boom. Oh, God.
That elbow is nasty.

Speaker 1 Boom. Oh, no, man.
That's in the head. That knee's in the head.
Is it? It looked like it right there. Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 Okay, I couldn't see. I do think that he was already covering himself.
Well, listen, it was all she wrote.

Speaker 1 That elbow was all she wrote. That elbow probably broke his face.
If you're toffee, you can't be mad. It's not like that knee end of the fight.
Now we got the Komane in Maine.

Speaker 1 I'm going to use the headroom.

Speaker 1 Let's go, sir. Let's go.

Speaker 1 I hope Tatiana just fucking mollywhops her. I don't know, man.
I'm a big fan of Zhang Wei Li. Nah, it's not a good thing.
So Zhang Wei Lee has been training with those two guys from

Speaker 1 that gym in Thailand with those two guys from Iowa, those two wrestlers, their brothers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those guys, and what gym is that? Which one? Bang Bang, I think it's called Bang Tao.

Speaker 1 Bang Tao. Yeah, yeah.
There's not enough hours in the day for her to compete in grappling against Tatio Shaw. That's true, but she might practice

Speaker 1 pace and defense. Because if she can survive and then get it into the third, fourth, and fifth round, that lady's an animal.
That's a great action. And on the feet, choke the fuck out.
True.

Speaker 1 True first round. Look, it's going to be exciting.
I'm excited. But on the feet, Jean-Waley is a fucking monster.
She puts bitches on the floor. Tatiana's not bad on the feet.

Speaker 1 Disrespect to the ladies. I know.

Speaker 1 I mean, with all due respect.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing about Tatiana. Her striking's not bad either.
Like, she's no punk dad. And she's tall.
Tall and long. She's big.
And have you seen what she does to girls on the ground? Mauls them.

Speaker 1 Mauls them. Mauls them.
It's just like the early days of the UFC when elite wrestlers would take people. You're fucked.
The early days.

Speaker 1 Look at the size of that dude. He's such a big fella.
Yeah, he's a giant. That guy in the the back looks like he's seen some of the game.
So that guy just rose to the top of the heap.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, he's a fucking problem. But let's see what his ground game is like.
Because Aspen all is Aspinall is fast as fuck. Black belt, too.
Black belt on the ground.

Speaker 1 Nah, give this kid Cyril Gunn.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Keep it exciting. Give him a Zero Gun type of thing.
Yeah, you have to. You can't give him Aspinall right away

Speaker 1 from Taffa.

Speaker 1 But this is his introduction, right? How many fights has he had in the UFC now?

Speaker 1 That was his debut. That was his debut.

Speaker 1 But 7-0, 7 finishes, he's a prospect.

Speaker 1 So what we have now is some new blood. Now we've got to get some more.
You know who they should try to get? I don't know if he's out of his contract is Nemkov. Oh, Nemkov was good.

Speaker 1 Nemkoff was the... He was

Speaker 1 205, right? Then he moved up to heavyweight.

Speaker 1 He's a Russian cat. He's fucking good, man.

Speaker 1 He's really good. Real good.

Speaker 1 Super well-rounded all-around.

Speaker 1 Bellator's control. They're very curious to see what Uncle Adams.
PFL took over Bellator's contracts, and they're releasing everyone like a fucking Sunday sale. So I hope we get Aaron gets Get Pico.

Speaker 1 I hope we get Aaron. Aaron Pico's a free agent.
I hope we get Aaron Pico. I hope GFL gets him.

Speaker 1 Fuck off. Aaron Pico.
I hope we get it. He's wasted all this time.
Yeah. These other organizers, people don't know how good that kid is.
He got him.

Speaker 1 He got an animal. No, see, this is the problem.
He had struggles and then won like nine in a row. You got it twisted.
You're out of the loop. They pushed him too soon, too fast.

Speaker 1 In Matt Square Garden, I was working, Matt Square Garden.

Speaker 1 He got caught in the guillotine.

Speaker 1 He's one of young guy. He He was like 20 years old.
Yeah, he was fucking wrestling internationally at 16 years old. Why are you yelling at him? And boxing with Freddy Reynolds.

Speaker 1 He's just yelling at him. No, he's an evil.

Speaker 1 Look at that. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Ty Toy Vasa.
Try to drink out of my shoe.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about that one. You can't drink out of my shoe.
I did.

Speaker 1 I did a showy with him. It's disgusting.
No, no, no. You know, they smelled it.
They put a loo gun. I threw up.
I threw up. It's so weird.
It's like, think of how much ass you've eaten in your life.

Speaker 1 Doing that shit. But that's different.

Speaker 1 It's a good way to put it. It's a guy's classic thought.

Speaker 1 It's nasty about it. Here it is, baby.
I don't care if you date.

Speaker 1 I love this lady. She's such a fucking savage.
She's a savage, dude. Tatiana.
She's so ferocious. Her drive, too.
Ooh, Tatiana. She's a big shit.
She's a big, too. She's going to fuck her.

Speaker 1 Like, immediately look big. And they both changed camera offs, too.
Yeah, she's a fucking hoss, dude. She's a problem.
A problem on the ground. So what injuries did she have?

Speaker 1 She had quite a few injuries. Her neck injury was the main one.
Was it a surgery? I think so, yeah. What did they do? I'm not sure.
Diffuse the disc? Oh, very super bad. Diffused it? I think so.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 A lot of guys have the fucking fake disc. I mean, Al Joe had the fake disc and came back better than ever.
Like, Al Joe got an artificial disc in his neck and then

Speaker 1 beat Peter Jan bad in the rematch. Manhandled him.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Tatiana's thing is she won, let me think, she won Ultimate Fight, I think, 24 in 2016.

Speaker 1 Wow. Isn't that crazy? And then she's had such a long layoff because all the injuries.
Did you see this Anthony Mackey? He's playing Captain America and he said, he goes,

Speaker 1 I'm playing Captain America, but he said something like, basically, but. He's not for America.

Speaker 1 Yes, he basically said, but it makes no sense because Captain America is for justice and for fair play and all that. Cool, move to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 It was a problem. It was a big problem.

Speaker 1 It was a PR.

Speaker 1 That's not my Captain America. No, that's not my pussy.

Speaker 1 That's a giant. I like Steve Rod pussy.
Isn't it weird that they feel like they have to say stuff like that to keep working? It's weird. But the movie studio goes

Speaker 1 to fuck face. It's not good for numbers.
Now Americans aren't going to go to fucking Captain American. That's terrible.
That's what happens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's out. You know who really fucked up? Bautista.
He went all in against Trump. Remember, he did that video calling him a little bitch and all his different things.
What was that about, right?

Speaker 1 He did the whole thing where he's working out. You're a little bitch.
You're a little fat. You look like a bag of milk.
Fucking hit the bag. Bad joke.
Doing working out. Fucking look at Jackson.

Speaker 1 It's better to stay out of politics if you're an actor. Hey, did you guys see the new Superman trailer? Did you see that shit? No.
No, is it good? Come on, man. It'll get your nipples hard.
Really?

Speaker 1 Joe, did you see it? No, a grown man.

Speaker 1 Please stop being such a fool.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. Lighter fluid.
Who's playing Superman? Is it Henry Covet? Hey, don't tell me you're not going to watch that movie. Watch Grow Fluid.
Do you play Plato the Superman?

Speaker 1 I am not going to watch that movie. Really? No, I think Superman is a good movie.
It's a Plato the Superman is a bit of a movie. I think it's just like living in space.
If you were living in space,

Speaker 1 eventually your body would decay.

Speaker 1 Spiritual words. and slide conversations.

Speaker 1 You're comfortable with a place with more gravity. It's not going to be good for you on Earth.
I'm on mass train. Fuck that.
When you get back to your planet, you're not even going to be able to walk.

Speaker 1 Hold on, right. Hold on.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Captain negativity.

Speaker 1 He can make the world go back in time because it can go so fast. Look at him, though.
He's cold and he's getting pissed. But he's from the middle of the morning.

Speaker 1 What happened to the original Superman? Hold on.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? He got Schwartz. The guy who wrote more second die.

Speaker 1 Not Christopher Reese. No, not Chris Raw.
He's got a TV show about the last guy. Oh, they've had a bunch of suits.
They're rebooting it.

Speaker 1 Spider-Man. They've had like 80 Spider-Man.
Oh, Toby McGuire's my Spider-Man. How many fucking Hulks have they had?

Speaker 1 You know what happened?

Speaker 1 Mark Ruffalo? That guy.

Speaker 1 Make sure you harden root for the Hulk. James Gunn is rebooting the whole DC universe.
James Gunn's good, too. He's got cancer.
Superman is breathing and stuff. I mean, he's bleeding.

Speaker 1 You guys watch the Penguin? Yeah.

Speaker 1 First part's a little tough. I don't know how Joe's going to take take this.
Wait, what's going on? Is he running through the storm there? No, this is probably. I haven't seen this in a second.

Speaker 1 Let me say a dog saves him. No, no, no, no, no.
That's the first one. Jesus Christ.
Is that a super dog?

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. Is that a fucking super dog?

Speaker 1 Is that a super dog?

Speaker 1 First of all, if you're not watching it with the sound,

Speaker 1 then you should just shut it off. That dog.

Speaker 1 It doesn't do it. Look at Lex Cooper.
Does the dog fly?

Speaker 1 Lex Luther.

Speaker 1 No, you said Lex Cooper.

Speaker 1 I'm saying you are drunk. He's like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I have a Porsche. That's Guy Gardner.
Porsche 912. That's Hook Girl.
Shut up. Listen, guys, this is serious.
You're like Zuckerberg with the bones.

Speaker 1 Same energy.

Speaker 1 Same vibe. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Look, it's got super dogs dragging him to safety. It's over.
Listen to me. The dog is

Speaker 1 fucking the dog. Why is the dog able to drag him? You communist, you don't like dogs.
What the fuck? Why is that dog able to drag him? Oh, he's kissing that girl in space. Oh, you big show off.

Speaker 1 He's He's taking that girl up in the sky to the galaxy. Hey, Matt, the dog's a bad choice.
I admit that. The Matt kind of took me out.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I thought the dog would be a bad choice. I thought the dog.
But

Speaker 1 I thought the dog was a bad choice.

Speaker 1 I don't think James Gunn could do any wrong. I agree.
He's great. James Gunn.
He's the man. He's the man.
I'll see it for you. The three Guardians of the Galaxies were fucking.
Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Phenomenal. He knows how to make you care about characters that you never heard of.
I don't care about that dog.

Speaker 1 I'm a fake Superman Dog. look in the comic books is Superman Dog.
Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy? Crypto, the Super Dog. Did you like

Speaker 1 Roadman?

Speaker 1 Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy? I did. Oh, but it's a talking raccoon.
How could you watch that? I loved it. Talking tree.

Speaker 1 You know what? Dude, you know what? If anybody can make a Super Diesel, awesome. It's James Gunn.

Speaker 1 James Gunn. Didn't they try canceling James Gunn for being mean on sale? I think so, yeah.
Did they? Yeah, he's too tree's too talented.

Speaker 1 Nah, I think it was some tweets he did back in the day or something. Shit, Some bullshit.
Whoopsies. But

Speaker 1 anyway. Yeah, he was saying funny things.
We're all looking forward to it. Yeah, except me.

Speaker 1 I'm a little confused. I stopped rooting for the Hulk when he started wearing glasses.
I was like, you're lying to me. This is not the Hulk.
No, no, this is not.

Speaker 1 You can't have the Hulk.

Speaker 1 He's got Bruce Banner's fucking brain and the Hulk's body. He has bad eyesight.
It's supposed to be he changes and now he's this fucking ferocious monster

Speaker 1 and he doesn't remember what fucking happened. Wait, now you're talking my last one.

Speaker 1 saying, yeah, the new Hulk has glasses, and

Speaker 1 he lost weight, and he got shorter. Well, listen, he lost the fight to Thanos, and he became a pussy.
I'll tell you what, the 2008 Hulk was pretty good. What size? I like it.

Speaker 1 That was the one with Ed Norton and Hicks and Gracie. I like 1977.
Yeah, that was a good one. That Hulk was awesome.
Yeah. I like the 1977.

Speaker 1 Such a pussy.

Speaker 1 Do you know the real problem? He was all right. I think Ed Norton was the best one.
But here's the problem: the pants. The pants don't make any goddamn sense.
How are they staying there?

Speaker 1 I want to see that big green dick just swinging around while he's smashing things. There's no way he's wearing 160-pound dude's pants.
Yeah, facts. That don't make no sense.

Speaker 1 He weighs 8,000 pounds. He's as big as a fucking building, and somehow another pants cover his dick.
It's great if his dick stayed the same thing. Look at the size of him.
Yeah. That's the hole.

Speaker 1 That's what the hole's supposed to be. He's a little bit smart.
Do you think the studios tell Mark Ruffalo? They're like, shut the fuck up, dude. No.
No one's going to go see it. They don't care.

Speaker 1 They're all in the bubble. Who is there?

Speaker 1 Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo is always

Speaker 1 talking about politics. I like him as an actor, though.
He's a good actor. Great actor.
A lot of foster stature. Crazy guy.
They're crazy people.

Speaker 1 They're really good at that. I thought Edward Norton was good.
Edward Norton was my favorite. He was Dixon in there.
Fucking Bruce. Yes.
Smacked him in the face. Yeah.
Got to keep him calm.

Speaker 1 Remember that?

Speaker 1 Make sure Bannon was his control.

Speaker 1 Bannon wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 But look, that's Smart Hulk. Hulk is Smart Hulk.

Speaker 1 She-Hulk was a pile of shit. She-Hulk was a woke pile of shit.

Speaker 1 Was it woke? Oh, it was woke. There's a guy looking at.

Speaker 1 Thank God that's over.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. It was broke.
Oh, God, that's over.

Speaker 1 It's over. It's definitely broke.
It's going to be illegal soon. Here she comes.
New champ. I'm calling it.
What do you think? Trump's going to be being woke literally illegal.

Speaker 1 Did you hear what he said about Prince Harry? They were asking him if he was going to deport Prince Harry because Prince Harry talks shit about him.

Speaker 1 He goes, no, he's having enough problems with his wife. She's terrible.
Oh, he's funny. He's like, he's so funny.
He's an animal. They asked if he was going to deport Prince Harry.

Speaker 1 Say what you will. He's a funny fucking dude, man.
Look at the focus in this girl's eyes. She's such a beast, dude.
You just got to worry about the injuries, you know, if the next is going to arrive.

Speaker 1 Right, where's she at now? Yeah, because she's fallen out of two fights, and you said, fuck it, it's go time, gave her a title shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's so hard to know if she can even get through a camp, right? Yes. It's so hard to know with these people when they have like real bad injuries.

Speaker 1 And then after the fight, they'll tell you, like, my camp was a shambles. I couldn't do anything.
Like, why did I bet on him? I had a broken foot. Well, how about like Aspinall wins the title?

Speaker 1 He couldn't train. He couldn't wrestle at all for like 11 days.
He fanciified

Speaker 1 Cyril Gahn. That's right.
No need. He blown out fucking knee.
He's blown out knee. Takes it up.
Yep. Takes it up and decides to take him to the ground.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Takes Cyril Gahn to the ground and wrestles him and just showed that he's a good one. Colby Covington broke his foot in the first round.
That was the other one against Leonardo. Yeah, still.

Speaker 1 It was just a really bad break. Yeah, but that's in the fight, bro.

Speaker 1 How good did Joaquin Buckley look against Colby?

Speaker 1 Joaquin Buckley's a pro. Is Joaquin that good? Is Colby? Well, he knocked out.
What do you do to Wonder Boy? Wonder Boy, yeah. He's that good.
He's fucking good. He's that good.

Speaker 1 He's fucking dangerous at 170. And he's got crazy cardio at 170.
I still want to see him and Ian Gary. Oh, yeah.
That was originally supposed to go down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they swapped it.

Speaker 1 And Ian Gary is fucking amazing. Yeah, that would be a real good fight.

Speaker 1 Think about Ian Gary beat MVP. MVP looked great against Sherry.
MVP is awesome. Awesome.
Bro, MVP is the fucking man. That against Shara Bullet, that was incredible.

Speaker 1 And he was 85. 85.
No, he wants to go up to the fire. He wants to go up to fight Yuri.
My thing is, do it. Make the fun fights like Cowboy Cerroni style.
Do the fun fights. And then come back.

Speaker 1 Do 205 and then come back. Yeah, let's go ahead and fight.
You don't want to fight your big fighters.

Speaker 1 Yuri's a thin 205.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Yuri is a different thing. The style matchup, though.

Speaker 1 It'd be very exciting. Here's the thing.
On the outside, no one can touch MVP. You can't close the distance like he can.
No one. He's got that elite point fighting style.
I always said that.

Speaker 1 Like, that's going to be the next problem is point fighters. Because they got that blitz, that ability to cover the distance.
It's so fast. They don't have knockout power.
Some of them do.

Speaker 1 Name one that does. Wonderboy.

Speaker 1 Boy had a point fighting style.

Speaker 1 I mean, he basically started out in karate, you know, and then developed as a kickboxer above the leg kickboxing. But then when he got to the elite level, he was at knocking guys out.

Speaker 1 Well, he couldn't wrestle with them. The problem is, like, Matt the Immortal Brown was the first guy to expose his ground game.
Remember that? That's his nickname. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He took him down and smashed him. That was his first fight in the UFC, wasn't it? I don't know.
No, the first fight was a KO. He got that guy with that over-the-shoulder kick.

Speaker 1 Maybe his second, though. It was a big went down with that round.
It was very early on. Very early on.

Speaker 1 When he knocked out Jake Ellenberger with that wheel kick, Jake Ellenberger was like making fun of spinning shit.

Speaker 1 He's a Dakarate. Yeah, that's funny.
Making fun of spinning things.

Speaker 1 I hope he does. I hope he does try to hit me with a wheel kick.
I knocked him out with it. Boom.
And then remember, Wonderboy beat Robert Whitaker at 170. Then Robert Whitaker went to 175.

Speaker 1 Robert Whitaker was way too big for 170. He was dying, Daddy, Darryl.
Just dying. Wonder Boy's sidekick is the nicest in the business.
Oh, it's so smooth.

Speaker 1 And it's so like it comes off the ground effortlessly and just sticks you with a thumb.

Speaker 1 Just like a jab.

Speaker 1 His right leg forward when he throws it that way. It's fucking so nasty.
And it's so hard to deal with because he can do all the other stuff, too.

Speaker 1 So it's like, and he also, Wonder Boy was one of the best ever at leaning his head back like a fucking snake and then firing at you as he's moving backwards. See, I feel like MVP doesn't have that.

Speaker 1 Like, he's not landing those big shots like Wonder Boy did. It's hard to hit on the shot.
Well, he does on some guys. You also got to realize.
He's not a UFC. No, not

Speaker 1 KOing guys yet. But look, what he did to Cyborg is a wake-up call for everybody alive.

Speaker 1 Serge Cyborg was 77 years old. He was 177.

Speaker 1 But he caved his scholars. Yeah, it was bad, bad.
The worst knockout ever. Tell you what, Sray's gnarly.
Here's another guy everybody sleeps on.

Speaker 1 Like, who did, like, so what were his losses? Whose?

Speaker 1 MVP.

Speaker 1 He lost a muscle. It was Doug Lima, was the KO.
He lost it up.

Speaker 1 He lost our wrestler. That's right.
But Lima was the first guy to stop him. Yes.
Because Lima started. Lima had, he's one of the most slept-on guys at 170.

Speaker 1 He's a guy that I really wish had left Bellator in his prime. He's with GFL?

Speaker 1 That's good, but how old is he now? Bellator's dead. We haven't heard from him for a while.
No. What's the last time?

Speaker 1 They just sat guys on the show?

Speaker 1 37.

Speaker 1 September 7th. There's still something in the tank there.
Oh, he was a monster in his prime. Savage.
A monster in his prime.

Speaker 1 you remember what ben askron did to him yeah ben aspren just said oh that's cute

Speaker 1 mollywap them i don't know you're gonna enjoy wrestling now who'd he fight diego lima oh yeah douglas yeah the dugo champion

Speaker 1 yeah right douglas lima was the it was no disrespect but it was slightly better

Speaker 1 Douglas was a bellator champion. He was a beast, man.
A beast. But the problem with that Bellator title was like nobody cared.
I'm glad you're making money. I'm glad you're getting paid.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for everybody. So it's like being CFL world champion.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got the NFL. It's great.
I hope you're getting paid. That's the most important thing.

Speaker 1 But after that, if you want to make the splash, you want to be famous, you want to have a legacy, you kind of got to make it over to the UFC. If you want to say you're the best in the world,

Speaker 1 if you're the champion anywhere else, if you're not in the UFC, you're just not the best. Unless you do the Francis thing.
You go over there and they give you $20 million a fight.

Speaker 1 And it's a big fuck you to Dana because you still get to box. Yeah, you get to box.
But he's in a unique position. Like, Francis' position is different than everybody's.
Yeah, he's heavyweight.

Speaker 1 Heavyweight

Speaker 1 monster. Yes.
Destroyer. Yeah.
Knocks guys out with one shot. Like, he's always going to be thought of as the heavyweight champion until somebody beats him at heavyweight.

Speaker 1 You know, what he did to Steve Bay, and then, you know, he beats Cyril Gon with a blown-out knee, and then just

Speaker 1 lips. See you later.

Speaker 1 I think pound for pound, we won't ever find out. I think Tom Aspinall is the best.

Speaker 1 Well, who knows? I don't think Tom beats him. Who knows if John beats him? John might beat him up.
He could. John might take him down and fucking ragdoll him on the ground.

Speaker 1 John easily could.

Speaker 1 Because we don't know how good John is either. And we also don't know what happens to Tom Aspinall in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.
We have zero options. Because no one's gotten there.

Speaker 1 No one's even gotten close. There's so many question marks.
Like, we don't know how good John is.

Speaker 1 You can't tell me John's the best of all time, or he is the best goat, but you can't tell me he's the baddest heavyweight on the planet after being an older Steve Bay.

Speaker 1 That's not going to do it for me. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 Aspinal looks fucking good, and he's in his prime.

Speaker 1 But Cyril Gon almost beat Francis. I know you can say the thing about the knee, and John.
You know, Jones just smoked him.

Speaker 1 We also didn't know

Speaker 1 Cyril Gon was a fucking three-stripe white pelt. That's news to me.
What is that?

Speaker 1 So what is that? Did he get that third stripe? It's MMA. He's got to be able to.
I was going to say, like, the Bulldog guillotine. It's like, hey, dude.

Speaker 1 I think he might have frozen. It feels like he frozen the big lights there.
I think he also probably is not used to a guy that's that good getting a hold of his neck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sam thought they'd be on a game.

Speaker 1 At that level,

Speaker 1 world champion. John caught him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He caught him. I think John does that to him 100 out of 100 times.

Speaker 1 There's not enough hours in the day for a serial to make up for it. It was great distance management, too.
John just avoided all the big shots. The timing of the shot was perfect.

Speaker 1 I can see John taking Aspen all down. He grew up.
He very well could. You're talking about the black belt who grew up in jiu-choo tunes like Matt?

Speaker 1 He took

Speaker 1 him twice. Sure.

Speaker 1 A two-time Olympian.

Speaker 1 TC's not a black belt on the fucking ground.

Speaker 1 I wonder how it takes off his back. I wonder how his guard is.

Speaker 1 Does he have a guard? Does he have a guard?

Speaker 1 A lot of big guys don't have a guard. He's been doing jiu-jitsu in his diapers, man.
You're talking about there's pictures of the shit.

Speaker 1 You're assuming, man, we've seen a lot of guys who are really good and they're on their back and they got nothing. They have no answers.

Speaker 1 I agree, but as athletic as he is and growing up in that culture, your guard's not going to be shit.

Speaker 1 It might not be, but

Speaker 1 you know more than anybody that big guys are mostly on top when training.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's the problem. Unless you're a guy that's smart about it, like Fabricio Verdum, who developed ⁇ I mean, that's a rare guy who is a big guy who developed a killer.

Speaker 1 He's in my top 10 of all time. I always put in Fabrizio.
You got to remember that guy tapped everybody. Dude, top 10? His argument, top three? Of all time.
Of all time. People forget him.

Speaker 1 They sleep on him when they talk about Fabrizio. First of all,

Speaker 1 first one to tap Kane. Bigfoot Silva.
Tap Kane. No,

Speaker 1 KO'd Mark Hunt. Yeah.
Flying knee. Remember that? Yeah.
Yeah. Tap Kane.
He tapped everybody. Tap Noguera.
He breaks off Travis Brown in his prime. Yep.
Tapped everybody. Flying, flying.

Speaker 1 Sidekick to start it out. Yeah.
Savage. Fabrico Verdoom was a bad man.
So good. Bad man.

Speaker 1 She's going to get it down. She's going to get it down.
She's going to get it down, Brian.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, she's been drilling. Second round, head arm choke, Tatiana.
I'm excited to see what happens. I was thinking second round.
Boy, Tatiana looks big. She's big.
She's such a problem.

Speaker 1 Wish I need that neck to hold her. Here we go.
Here we go. Here we go.
She's been wrestling since a kid, man. Yeah, but she's been at bang.

Speaker 1 What? Just saying, break it down. She's been in China.
She's been wrestling with some Iowa wrestlers, bro. Calm down.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 Watch.

Speaker 1 Okay, watch. Brian, who's your call? Who's your call, Brian? I'm going with China.
You're such a piece of shit. Brennan Shaub, America.
You're China

Speaker 1 all day, you piece of shit. Tatiana.
Commiest. Tatiana.

Speaker 1 You know what? For fun,

Speaker 1 I'm going with Jean Way Whaley because I'm right here with Brian. Ah, yeah, baby.
Come on. Let's see what happens.
Let's go. Commies on the side.
Americans on the other side. I'm going with the champ.

Speaker 1 Who's the superior striker? Yeah, look at her. Listen, man.
Dangerous striker. Whaley, you probably have a little advantage on the feet, but a lot more championship experience.

Speaker 1 Coming over at peer pressure. A lot more championship experience.
They're both going to have a little ring rest. They both haven't fought in a hot side.
Are you making excuses now, bro?

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 But in terms of experience, there's no comparison. Oh, for sure.
John Whaley has fought the best of the best and had fucking wars. I mean, she's had some fucking wars.
That Ioana Yonjay Chick fight.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Oh, my God.
That was crazy. Oh, my goodness.
Look at this shit. Tantiana gets it right away.

Speaker 1 Right away. How's that Iowa wrestling? You right away.

Speaker 1 I almost dropped. Oh, my God.
I almost called you a maggot. Oh, my God.
Almost called you a maggot. Look how big she looks.

Speaker 1 Why'd you call me a maggot? You know what I mean? Bro,

Speaker 1 she looks like a 135er. She doesn't look like a

Speaker 1 strawweight.

Speaker 1 She looks like a banner weight. But Waley's been working this position, believe me.

Speaker 1 Did the Iowa wrestlers help her off her back? Let's see if she gets her in the crease. She's just going to get...

Speaker 1 Go for that. Oh, Jesus.
Bro, this ain't good. Brian, how you feeling?

Speaker 1 Hey, buddy. We feel like we lost.
How's the communists feeling? I always did it to go along with her. She's turning Brian.
She's turtling. I was just never rooting for the champion.

Speaker 1 I'm very persuasive.

Speaker 1 I'm just rooting for the champion. I'm incredibly persuasive.
Let's see if she survives. So, right now, we just got a squeeze.
We got a top pressure. Squeeze, we've been here before.
No shots.

Speaker 1 We trained this.

Speaker 1 Nothing landed. We've been here.
I sound like Steven Segal. We've been here.
We work this. Trying to work those butterflies.

Speaker 1 She's dealing with a gym. She passed that knee line again.
Different kind of person. Matt, what do we do here?

Speaker 1 For who?

Speaker 1 For my guy. For my girl.

Speaker 1 See how she's holding on with that left arm?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I don't see gender. I don't see gender.
She's not doing a bigger girl. Good job.

Speaker 1 She's doing a good job. Look at this.
Over unders. That's it, Winnie.

Speaker 1 She's got a floater up and back. That's not a good sign.
We'll get up. Past the knee line again.
She can't get out of this, man. She's dealing with a different kind of pressure.
It's tired.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 The person getting tired is definitely going to be Jean Wayne Lean. The left arm is coming across the neck underneath to the far shoulder.

Speaker 1 She's got to struggle real hard just to not get smushed here on the body. We work those.
We work those. That's it.
Soften them up.

Speaker 1 She's controlling her by wrapping around the waist, but then what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 We're manicuring the target, bro. Her chest is compressed.
She can barely breathe. No, she's okay.
She's just holding on over there. That's it.
We're comfortable down there. Ready?

Speaker 1 She's going to pass these butterfly hooks again. Yeah, but this is a clear round for Tatiana, bro.
The entire round has been on top. And that aisle of wrestling, she took it down in 40 seconds.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 45.

Speaker 1 We're in 9.

Speaker 1 It wasn't even. It was probably 30.
She's going to pass that knee line again. Look at the stuff that look at that.
Look at that. Look at the stuff that's nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sky control, set up the submission, isolate the arm.

Speaker 1 She didn't even have to work for the takedown either. No.

Speaker 1 She could probably do that all day long. All day.
She made it look easy, man.

Speaker 1 What does she walk around at? 210.

Speaker 1 Let's see how low pass here. Oh, look at this.
Look at this. Look at that.
Flow. Come on, nice right to the side control.

Speaker 1 Look at this control, bro. Look at the grip.
I like it. It's beautiful to see.
She's keeping the right arm showing. She's moving north south.
She's moving to north south.

Speaker 1 See, the problem is you got to kill that near side frame. That's what does everything.
It's blocked. Everybody thinks far underhook.
That near side frame reclaims guard. It offsets balance.

Speaker 1 Kill that fucking thing.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about, Matt? The right arm. The right arm.
Yes. Oh, look at this.
Yeah. I told you.
This is where Iowa comes in. Oh, shit.
It's guillotine. Oh, it's tight.

Speaker 1 Oh, she has a lot of it. Oh, she fucked up.
John Laley fucked up. Or John Lilly's on top.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She could use it to sweep her, though, here.

Speaker 1 She has a butterfly guard. She's a sweeper.

Speaker 1 John Whaley's out. She's out.
She's out. On top.
top.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. What I tell you, what I see.
She's across the ground. But let's see what happens over the next few minutes.

Speaker 1 Wild shit can happen over this next minute. She's got a wrestler on their back.
Let's see. Watch that reverse.
Also, she's stuck in this head and arm guillantine here. Look, butterfly.
She's a mall.

Speaker 1 She's going to sit back and get it. She's fucking wrong.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's nice. That was nice.
That was nice the way she moved around that.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at this. She's looking to pass.
She's going for head and arm. Oh, boy.
She can't get out of that. That butterfly, though, that right leg.
She's comfortable as shit here. Nice long legs, too.

Speaker 1 They're hooked up. They're so hard to pass.
It's a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1 Let's look for an elevator sweep here. Oh, take the back.
Under her. Oh, she's trying to mount.
She's trying to mount here. Oh, she might be sensing Tatiana's fading.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Tatiana might be getting a little tired.

Speaker 1 She's never done this before, right?

Speaker 1 She's never had a world championship fight. There's so much adrenaline here.
And Jean Wayley's on top. Yep.
A little discouraging, right? She won the round, so she's pretty happy.

Speaker 1 But still, this is like a closer round than it should have been, right? Yeah. Jean Willie's on top, and she's on top.

Speaker 1 At the end, she jumped for that guillotine at the end of the round she's on top the fact that she got out is huge huge you know here's the thing like we know jean whaley can do that for five rounds can tatiana do that for five rounds this is a championship fight that's a question joe rogan

Speaker 1 no i don't think she's gonna take downs too easy we'll see she's gonna finish her we'll see kids i don't like your attitude man my american attitude you piece of shit you want to move to austin no no come on bro give me a second i'm just yeah you have to get rid of all your communist leaders that you picked up you're on the West Coast.

Speaker 1 Do I gotta buy a truck, too? No, you don't have to do that. No, it's not for you.
It's not for you. You should probably buy an F-150 just to show everybody.
Carry a

Speaker 1 F-100 tall boy. Yeah, get something nice.
American. American.

Speaker 1 Get back into Jiu-Jitsu or just wrestling?

Speaker 1 Just do something. Okay.

Speaker 1 You moving still? What are you doing? Yeah, do a little jiu-jitsu. Yeah, are you?

Speaker 1 Roll around. He does boxing, too.
And sometimes he forgets who is. No, I'm not boxing anymore.
He forgets his name. I got two.
Does he know his phone number?

Speaker 1 Sparring? Yeah. Yeah, he's boxing people.
He was sparring a lot. Getting dating.
And Shab goes, hey, what are you doing? Because I can't do it. 55,000 years old.
Punched in the face. Fossil.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah, basically.

Speaker 1 Setting in Alzheimer's months earlier than it has to.

Speaker 1 I can't do it. I can't do jiu-jitsu either because I get hurt.
I fucking have trouble looking for 11 days.

Speaker 1 You're feeble. You should not be feeble.
I have a really good body under this.

Speaker 1 Take my shots, right?

Speaker 1 I'm wearing a leotard again.

Speaker 1 Let's see how you get this takedown again. Come on.

Speaker 1 Just circle to the right. Ah, dude.
There you go.

Speaker 1 She can't get the takedown here, man. This thing gets really interesting.
Because if

Speaker 1 she's a little tired, we're in trouble. Her arms are a little tired.
It's hard to get close. That's true.
That's true. There's definitely a reason.
That distance is hard to touch anybody with.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why she's throwing a lot of kicks. She just doesn't want to get taken down again.

Speaker 1 But she is throwing. Oh, nice right hand.
Nice right hand. Oh, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's got an underhook.

Speaker 1 Yo, she's strong. It's got a hand.
The hands are together. Oh, yeah.
Ready? The hands are together. Come on, Matthew.
John Way Lee's a hole.

Speaker 1 Come on. She's got some fucking harm.
She's taking a breath, and we're going for a ride. Yo, John Way Lee's a little powerhouse, man.
She's a powerhouse, bro. She's pushing that head down.

Speaker 1 She's a little fucking powerhouse. This is impressive.
Crawls face. Oh, she gets locked.
Oh, my goodness. Look at this.
On top of her. She waited.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. This is huge.
Oh, my goodness. This is fucking huge.
Use that underhook. Nah, see? Hopefully, she didn't get spiked on her neck.

Speaker 1 That's got to be very frustrating. I love the escape from here for the under.
It's one of my favorite ways out. She keeps trying to mount.
I don't like the way you go to sweep the yield to deep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like you're putting your legs in jeopardy when you're trying to mount all the time. But when you put yourself in deep hit, you put them right on top of you.

Speaker 1 That shit worked for Nagara and Pride and fucking night. Oh, she's almost slicing through.
She's almost slicing through.

Speaker 1 She's almost slicing through. Pressure.
See, this is the thing, too. She can do this all day long.
Her gas tank is fucking limitless, man. Dude,

Speaker 1 she's so ferocious. She's not.
She just keeps going. Look at this, though, man.
Slick. Yeah.
Strong, too. Powerful.
Look at this. Oh, big elbows.
Oh, big shots. Ow, ow, ow.

Speaker 1 Ah, the corn rolls are taking all that.

Speaker 1 That's why you're right. Bro, look at this.

Speaker 1 She's got a guillotine. Oh, my God.
It could be elbow up. She's going to take it down.
Nah, she don't have it. She doesn't have it.

Speaker 1 She's just going to explode to defend. I'm wondering if she's just...
expending a lot of energy. Elbows right here.
Elbows on the right side. Get that arm free.

Speaker 1 Her hands are closed. She's going to take it down again, but when she steps over, he's got to get it with the control.
But this is a lot of fucking energy. That's all the other homework.

Speaker 1 Unless you're Marab

Speaker 1 and also, John is way more like Marab. Like that lady can go.
She just keeps going. She's a fucking machine.
She's being oh, look at that knee to the body, dude. That's a nasty knee to the body.

Speaker 1 And she's free.

Speaker 1 100%, man. Battle tested.
She's made a different shit. Come on.
Talk to you now. Not breathing that hard.
She looks all right.

Speaker 1 Look at that. Sidekick.
Oh,

Speaker 1 nice right hand. Oh, my goodness.
Nice right hand. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 This is deep water for. I mean, this is deep water.
It's halfway through the second round. Bro, that's a frantic pace, though.
Can I remind you that she beat Cancer? Can I remind you that Cancer?

Speaker 1 That's right. This girl's a warrior.
I like that you whispered that, bro. No, I'm not.
I love it. Oh, all the reception.

Speaker 1 He's just throwing from the outside. Oh, she clipped it with the Zeppercut coming in.
Set up the takedown, Tatiana. I was about to say.
Oh my God, the zombies double. That was straight zombie.

Speaker 1 Well, you go to your happy place when you're kind of tired and getting rocked.

Speaker 1 Well, this is where she wants to be for sure. Against the cage, she's deep stuff.
Sure, but she's not doing anything. Well, she just can't.

Speaker 1 Zhang Wei Li's, I think, is surprising her with the takedown defense. And just the physicality.
She's been working her wrestling.

Speaker 1 Look at the physicality, son. Yes, and she's been so fucking strong and fit.
Look at this. Again,

Speaker 1 turned it around, man. Again, this is huge.
So she's got this round. Yeah, she's winning this round.

Speaker 1 So it's 1-1 now. 1-1.
Making it exciting. Yeah.
It's 1-1. And if I was betting on this, I would, it's tough to back to China.

Speaker 1 She's got to get busy. Another one for China.
She would have had that. The fact that Zhang Wei-Li is able to keep her on her back is very impressive.
Very, very impressive.

Speaker 1 Especially when Tatiana is so good at those butterflies and elevating people. It's good.
But she's been working, nothing but wrestling. She knew she was going to deal with this.

Speaker 1 We all knew she was going to do it. Yeah, but somebody who likes this is her learning curve.
I bet Tatiana did not think she was going to spend a lot of time on her back. No.

Speaker 1 I bet she did not anticipate that Zhang Whaley was going to be able to do this to her. Especially in the scramble.
Because Tatiana's been dominant in the top position over everybody.

Speaker 1 And then also like a second round grueling pace of a five-round fight. And in the second round, you're getting mauled.

Speaker 1 That's not a good feeling. She got that wrestling grit.
Let's go. You know, let's go.
America.

Speaker 1 I'm back on the team in America. Yeah, I'm back on the team.
Making the switch. Yeah.
I wish I had bet money that I'd be hoping I'd lose it. Listen,

Speaker 1 you chose Jang Whaley. Well, I chose champion because it's just like there's a big difference in stepping up and fighting a champion like this

Speaker 1 when you've been dominating ladies that are of a lesser caliber. I mean, John Whaley's complete, and now you're seeing it.
And also, fucking tank. She's a tank of a lady.

Speaker 1 All right, we got one-in-one right now.

Speaker 1 Also, it's tide. It's all about the tide, boys.
Once the tide takes you out to sea, even though if you're only 100 yards from the shore, it's going in the wrong direction.

Speaker 1 I think it's very demoralizing. It's going in the wrong direction.
when your go-to move is not working. Right, you're wrestling.
I'm gonna repeat my friend Matt here. She beat cancer, bro.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I think a lot of respect. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 You're dealing with a different breed to somebody. Yeah, she beat cancer.
You think she's worried about a Chinese girl? Yes, Chinese girl's beating her ass. Oh, right hand.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 That was a nice right hand.

Speaker 1 She's rugged, though, but

Speaker 1 look at this. That's where it went.

Speaker 1 It's so impressive. Just the fact that she's able to do this to Tatiana is so impressive.
She's been drilling this. Look at this right here.
Oh, she's on the kissers, son. Look at that right here.

Speaker 1 I watched one countdown video where they had the. No, you don't even know the name of the guy.
What I'm saying is that he knows the state. No, she was doing a lot of wrestling, and somebody like this,

Speaker 1 I do think it's one thing you're not going to beat her in wrestling, but you can neutralize the wrestling. Hey, how about let Mike Beltron let his fucking mustache free? Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 Let that mustache free. She's the best.
Let that mustache free. Why are you going to tuck it in your shirt? That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 Let the mustache free. Look at her.
Look at her. Look at this round.
You're right. She's got a crazy gas tank.
She's so important. Fresh.

Speaker 1 Fresh. I'm going to have to make a petition to have Mike Beltron let his mustache go free.
Let him live. I like to see that thing, that crazy mustache.
It's too distracting. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. Jesus.

Speaker 1 Why did they mix it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that. Oh, oh.
They don't like it. They don't like the crazy mustache.
For some strange reason. I think it's awesome.
It gets in their face. Shut up.

Speaker 1 When he's in there, you can't have it doesn't. It's hanging down.
It might get grabbed. It's like a ponytail.

Speaker 1 Boy, you know what? I just realized we never had a woman referee.

Speaker 1 Really have? Who?

Speaker 1 There was that one in the game.

Speaker 1 What's her name? Have they? Yeah. The tall blonde girl.
Oh, she's nice, right? Way back in the day. You're right.
She's getting clocked.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. She's getting clocked.
How many women are you? I can't remember in recent times a female referee.

Speaker 1 oh jesus oh my goodness oh my goodness she just can't she can't strike with her no she can't dude that was a pretty fucking hard shot right there goes to her

Speaker 1 snapped her down she snapped it down come on man oh she's stuffing it now she's stuffing it now now she's putting it on her it's one it's oh nice needs a bodybuilder

Speaker 1 vision quest

Speaker 1 let's go

Speaker 1 look at that oh she caught again oh that was a oh this is rough the problem is the striking the difference big difference the big she's not setting up

Speaker 1 and it's also the pace man zhang Wei Li can just maul her in these pace. It's also Tatiana.
She's not putting the strike in the

Speaker 1 shots together. She's not setting up the strike.

Speaker 1 Kim Winslow. Yeah, she is.

Speaker 1 Literally ruining people's lives. She's like, whoops.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry, Kim. I need to bring up old wounds.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Boy, Tatiana just.
Finish it. Can't get her down anymore.

Speaker 1 She does the same takedown over and over. Bro, that's the best thing.
She is impressive. That's so impressive what Zhang Wei Li has been able to do here.

Speaker 1 just to be able to stop these takedowns and reverse them when she gets them so impressive

Speaker 1 but it's like the physicality of Zhang Wei Li is just something to think look at that one two

Speaker 1 nasty great athlete nasty yeah I mean just incredible conditioning yes I mean you ever watch her workout videos they're fucking mad dude

Speaker 1 her strength and conditioning is mad Brennan you want to come over to my side now look at her no stand strong you don't jump ship

Speaker 1 it's like going to electric cars you'll never do it brand if she wanted to have sex with you you'd be very uncomfortable She'd kill you. Yeah, she might be my type because I'm happy.

Speaker 1 Guys, guys, guys, I'm a fan of her too. I would beat the shit out of her.
Yeah, but you're 280 pounds. You just said I'd be scared of her.
Not you. Brian.
Oh, I thought you're Brian. No, I don't.

Speaker 1 That's why I said that. No, Brian.
If Brian had to. Tatiana at all.
Right.

Speaker 1 And she's been able to stuff those takedowns. And Tatiana's like hesitant to keep going for them now.
Watch her. Every time

Speaker 1 I'm up, she's just watching her. And she punches.
Her head's just off the center line every time. She's fucking.

Speaker 1 Zang has some traps, huh? She's a tank. When Tatiana got that first takedown.
Oh, look, how do you know? That's what she did. Her whole career, and nobody ever got away.
That pace.

Speaker 1 She's also striking. It's fucking just higher level, man.
Very good. Very good striking.
She keeps catching her. Yes.

Speaker 1 Tatiana just keeps moving forward. No, this doesn't work.
Oh,

Speaker 1 the difference of the striking.

Speaker 1 Much higher level, much higher level. Tatiana keeps moving forward in just one line.
And John Way Lee has not shown any signs of deteriorating.

Speaker 1 Not at all. Look at that.
She's stepping back, moving, waiting.

Speaker 1 I don't think

Speaker 1 she's not even throwing that left hand. She's at a loss.
She can't. Because she pays every time for her.
She keeps getting pet. See, that's the problem right there.
The entry.

Speaker 1 And when she does, look, the entry, she gets spun around. So bad.
It's crazy, but this is how strong Zhang Wei Li is, man. It's impressive.
Look at that. Look at this.
Fucking impressive.

Speaker 1 Look at that knee coming out. Oh, look at that elbow.
Oh, look at that other elbow. Oh, my goodness.
Look at that. Oh, my goodness.
Champion. Oh, talking right hand.
Champion. Yep.
Damn it.

Speaker 1 Dominant woman, man. Yes.
Dominant. Just a great fighter.
Forget it.

Speaker 1 That kick's not at all. So good.
So good. And again, it's like you got Rose, you got her, you got Ioanna, you got like the elite of the elite in this division, and she's fought them all.

Speaker 1 Her balance is perfect. Look at Tatiana.
Her head's all the way over. She's just leaning a lot of weight on her front foot.
Forget it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's what I'm talking about, baby. That's a good shot.
Finish that shit. Come on.
Great job. Ducking under it.
That's a good shot. Finish fitness.
Look at that shot.

Speaker 1 And she doesn't get it. Amazing.
Amen. Amazing.

Speaker 1 2-1. That was something.

Speaker 1 Two down. And then boom.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. She goes low and high.
How about those elbows in tight when they were up against the cage? Those were fucking nasty. Tatiana.
So much higher. I want to see the right.
How is she now?

Speaker 1 Elbows. Yeah.
She's

Speaker 1 never been

Speaker 1 in adversity. So now she's in the fourth and fifth.
This is the big red.

Speaker 1 We call this the deep waters. The deep.
I think that Tatiana doesn't have a game plan right now.

Speaker 1 Well, her game plan was a mauler on the ground, and then then that's not working. Look at the denying you're forced to strike in the outside.
You're fucked. Look at her breathing, man.

Speaker 1 Look at her breathing and the body language. She doesn't really know what to do, so she's moving forward.
She's

Speaker 1 tools to fix the problem. That body language is not good.
Her head's literally past her front foot. Then you got this Chinese terror waiting over there.

Speaker 1 This body language right here is just a bad thing. Yeah, it's never a good sign when she's already off the stool.
Yeah, jumping around like that. It's a nightmare.
This is bad body language.

Speaker 1 That's rough. Man, this is where it gets hard because you've never done this fourth and fifth.
Listen, guys, we're going to be able to get the words. We're the one who's

Speaker 1 been worked on the wrestling. How many times am I going to tell you? Yeah, but it's also the striking, the championships experience.
All of it.

Speaker 1 Well, they're asking Tatiana to do a lot, and she jumped the cue. Oh, listen to this.

Speaker 1 He was all American.

Speaker 1 Isn't that amazing? Isn't that incredible? I'm just explaining that. Fair weather, Frank.
Thank you. Thank you.
Unbelievable. But she can still do it.
She can still do it. We don't see it in the five.

Speaker 1 I'm staying with you. Right.
I'm staying with Tatiana. All right.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 I like your loyalty. I do.
I appreciate it. Let's see what happens in the fifth round.
He's going to be going, I've been thinking, Tatiana all the time.

Speaker 1 I just wanted her to win because, oh, American.

Speaker 1 Look at her.

Speaker 1 She's going in fearless now.

Speaker 1 That's exciting. Oh, right.
Jesus. Oh, she clipped her again.
She's stepping back.

Speaker 1 Oh, Christ. Like when Tatiana closes the distance.
Oh, wow. She took her down.
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. Yeah, what happened? Hello, hot on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Someone said 3-0, Zane. Get the fuck up.
Dude, I want to. No, not 3-0.
I get to take it. The first round for sure.
Well, the first round she did

Speaker 1 get on top at the end. Bubba, I'm just sorry.

Speaker 1 Can I just tell you with this half-guard escape, it's killing me. I want to fucking show it to you right now.
What is it?

Speaker 1 Hers, you mean? If she uses her left leg, pulls it out, pelvis up and down, she's out. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 With her left leg, if she pulls, scrapes it out,

Speaker 1 and she brings her pelvis forward into the floor, she's out. I'll show you.
I'll put Brendan on me afterwards. I'll show you.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, because once you get to your side, you're out with it her her left

Speaker 1 i used to use that when i was 230 getting out from underneath i swear to god matt if i lived near you i would be taking if she had the underhook on the left side right if she has her underhook and she brings her forward gets on her side yes retract this arm we scrape that out pelvis forward into the floor but but it comes out

Speaker 1 but her so you're saying her pelvis on the floor but then isn't she on the

Speaker 1 How does she escape from that? Yeah. I'll show it to me.
I'll show it to you.

Speaker 1 You would have to be in the half guard, but when you're in the half-guard, where she has the underhook on the left-hand side, she could basically pop her left leg out, put it beside her,

Speaker 1 and lean her body left, and she would take her down.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Head and arm.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Look at this.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I think she's okay until wait.
Well, Zhang Li Vi might get out.

Speaker 1 She might get all the way over. Yeah, if she cover the side.
But still, she's cooking her. She's cooking her in this position.
Yep, and she's waiting. Like, she's not doing good good here, man.

Speaker 1 No, she's not. This is not good.
And that left leg is basically free.

Speaker 1 That left leg is basically free. Look at that.
It's basically free. What do you want to do? Get her hips on her.

Speaker 1 She wants to get to the right side, but she doesn't want to lose position while she's doing it. Oh, no.
Tatiana brought her back to full guard. Nicely done.
That's over now. Now it's gone.

Speaker 1 But that was close. But she probably didn't want

Speaker 1 a championship experience, too. Didn't want to gas her arms out.
Somebody cut her knee with a knife. Oh, my God.
Look at that gash on her left knee. How'd that happen? That's a good question.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jesus. That's bad.
God damn. She's just mauling her, pushing her face down.

Speaker 1 Nasty elbows to the body.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's so physical, man. Fuck.
The thing about Zhang Wei Li is like her training is

Speaker 1 rivals everybody's. It's like her strength and conditioning training is fucking amazing.
That's ridiculous. If you want to get fired up for a workout, watch her strength and conditioning training.

Speaker 1 She's ferocious, man.

Speaker 1 And again, it's that championship level experience. Like, she's been in all these trench wars.
Are you guys still hanging off things? Tits? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bro, we're ready to buy Chinese electric cars.

Speaker 1 We're ordering Chinese electric cars. That's right.
You're damn right we are. I hear you.
We're trying to get one of them banned Chinese Android phones. Hook it up to T-Mobile.

Speaker 1 They have a lot of spyware and then they take her by her back. Did she take Tatiana down? Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 That spyware helps you because they give you recommendations for things to buy that you really want. That's right.
From Alibaba, man.

Speaker 1 It's Alibaba.

Speaker 1 Oh, Tatiana scrambled. Oh, look at that.
She capitalized on the the scramble. Look at that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no. So much better shape.
She can get on that half-guard. A lot of it is just being better shape, man.
Her fucking physical conditioning is like she can push this pace. You need Tatiana.

Speaker 1 She's just better. She's just better all the way around.
Yeah. In every way.
She's better. Look at this.
Okay. Side control again.
You're dealing with a 0.01 percenter. She's a fucking animal, man.

Speaker 1 And Tatiana getting mauled off her back was not on my Chinese tits for hanging off of it. Damn, it's all right.

Speaker 1 Tatiana I've been fighting like two years.

Speaker 1 You were all over her. You were like, she was going to choke her out in the second round.

Speaker 1 Me and Brian were right.

Speaker 1 What's up? Me and Brian were right.

Speaker 1 We're older. We're older.
My feeling was, I thought this was going to be the toughest fight that Jean Wheelie has. Me too.
Stylistically, but I'm so impressed. Not when Iowa's in the house, guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's which guys from Iowa, Brian? The brothers. Oh, those guys? Yeah.
Two brothers.

Speaker 1 They actually weren't. They weren't.
You should probably find out. They were good, but they were like top 15.
They weren't like.

Speaker 1 The rest of that eye was a good piece. Chill.
Yeah. But they had

Speaker 1 a really good wrestler. Nasty elbow.
A lot of

Speaker 1 people should come there. She fucked her up with that elbow.
You know.

Speaker 1 Up until now, she probably didn't have to use her striking too much. I mean, that's what it must be.
Yeah. If he's not broke, don't fix it.
She would just take him down and smoke him.

Speaker 1 She's beating her up, man. You know,

Speaker 1 beating her up in the floor. In the corner there, you're like, I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 Set the shots up better. Well, I feel like

Speaker 1 3-1. I was going to say, set the shots.
I feel like it's 3-1.

Speaker 1 Of course, it's over. She's already over.

Speaker 1 She's got to finish her. Dude, that's like dumbass.

Speaker 1 How'd that happen? Somebody took a bite mark.

Speaker 1 What? From a wolf? Looks like a bite mark to me. Yeah, it is.
It's like a wolf. It's a bite mark if it's cheating.

Speaker 1 Vampire bitter. What the fuck happened there?

Speaker 1 That's a shark bite, is what that is. How did you not like Nosferato? It's really just disappointing.

Speaker 1 It was all right. It was slow.
He watched the Sopranos. He was like, eh.
Bro, that vampire is the greatest vampire ever. He had a handlebar mustache.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 That's what he looked like back then. In two days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, it wasn't bad.
How about when he ate the kids?

Speaker 1 That was a lot, right? That was a lot. Oh, that's going to make me want to see it.
That was a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a great

Speaker 1 selling point. Isn't it great when he ate the children? Horrible, horrible vampire.
Yeah. He's horrible.

Speaker 1 But he was on top of the dude, yeah, naked, and it was sucking out of his chest. Like, oh, how about when he stands on and you see his dick? Yeah, nice.
Yeah, right. I paused.
He's scary.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's changing. Did you pause? He's scary.
Oh, I have to be fast.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking go. CGI, though.
He was the best vampire of all time. He sleeps naked, too, like all the other pussies.
Yeah, he does sleep naked. With their stupid fucking tuxedos on.

Speaker 1 That's ridiculous. And he didn't have makeup on like those other vamps.
Yeah. He was rotting, too.

Speaker 1 You need another Lost Boys. That was a good fucking thing.
I just watched it. I just rewatched it.

Speaker 1 It holds

Speaker 1 the same sentence.

Speaker 1 It's still holding. Same sentence as Nosphoros.
It's still right hand. Oh, she just tagged her with a right hand.

Speaker 1 It stands the test of time, man. If you guys are into vampires, you got to watch watch True Blood.
Might take some heat for that, but it's a fan. Six-part series.
I fell off on that series.

Speaker 1 I was watching. Did it end well? Yeah, great.
It's a good show. Shit, I thought it fell off towards the end.
I didn't like that Bill Olson's a prick and he used to be good.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 1 She's making her pay.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Because even if she gets her down, it's like.

Speaker 1 I'm coming at it. She's going to have to get a finish.
It's takedown defense. It's the same, but it's the same move.
Because it worked her whole career up until now. It's just so impressive.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at this. Look at this.
Look at this. It's so impressive that Jean Whaley conducted that.
I take that offense. It's wild.
That's fucking amazing. Oh, boy.
Look at this. Still.

Speaker 1 She got those little tree trunks. Still.
Incredible. Unbelievable.
I mean, that's so impressive. That's so impressive.
And then free spins out, and then you got to eat some shots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then you got to eat some shots. And now you're tired as fuck.
Oh, my God. She's coming, though.
She's coming. I'm right that she's animal.
Going forward. Oh, she's a fucking animal.

Speaker 1 I just want to emphasize she beat cancer, bro.

Speaker 1 She did beat cancer. Listen, all respect.
God bless you. No, no, you're ain't no.
You're just dealing with a different, you're dealing with just a better fighter. It's very hard.
No shame.

Speaker 1 That left hand's no, it's not even a threat, though, when she throws it. She doesn't know what to do.
She doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 You're going to pay every time. Oh, she's looking for the knee.
Trying to catch her with a knee coming. Oh, right-hand hurt her.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a entry's bad. But she's hurt.
What do you do? She's also older. This was her opportunity.
She's going to go back down the ladder.

Speaker 1 The division's not deep, but at her age, one of the best ever.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's going to be some learning on the job with the the stand-up. She's going to have to attack him.

Speaker 1 She has to have something threatening. She does nothing.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Look at that.
That's a way to do it. She's even going for an onlock.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, that was maybe a mistake. Ah! Geez.
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 That's conditioning. Yep, yep, yep.
That's just conditioning. 100%.

Speaker 1 Strength and conditioning. Push lead.
Push lead.

Speaker 1 How dare you? That's your girl. That's just your girl.
You're down, dude. That's your girl.

Speaker 1 One of them is exhausted and one of them is not. Okay? One of them is a fucking fitness machine.

Speaker 1 What I'm getting there asking. You know what? You know what? I'm going to say it.
Zhang Willie is a better wrestler as well. I said it.
MMA wrestler? Yes. She just is.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 This ain't wrestling. How many times have I got to tell you guys? Fucking scrambles like a motherfucker.
I'll tell you that. Look at this.
Look at this. She's got her fucking back.

Speaker 1 She didn't break your heart. She got a chucking back.

Speaker 1 You know why it breaks our heart? Because we're from here, Brian. Bro, look at this.

Speaker 1 This is amazing. We're from here.
You're right. I'm sorry.
I apologize. Matt, you got to teach me the.

Speaker 1 Tell me what's going on. I'm going to show you right now on the floor.
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 If you want to completely waste your time, Matt,

Speaker 1 he won't remember. I need it.
He still doesn't know how to throw a sidekick.

Speaker 1 Why are you guys picking on me?

Speaker 1 I'm just winning on this one. Come on.
We're winning together. And I got Sean Strickland in the next one.

Speaker 1 You got Strickland. How dare you? I know.
It's crazy. Now you're back on the American.

Speaker 1 I like Strickland.

Speaker 1 I love the way he fights. He's so tough to beat.
I just love this fight. But I'm on the DTP train, too, because he's a fucking monster.
I love the way Strickland fights.

Speaker 1 I'm all over those Afrikaan nuts. Yeah, me too.
I understand that's a smart money, but Strickland's Strickland's an animal. He's beautiful.
Also, he was just funny as shit at the press conferences.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 He's always so good at the press conferences. He's great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he don't get it. See what he said about Palestine, though? I was like, man.

Speaker 1 See, you think the USC is like, hey, man, after the recent Bryce Mitchell stuff, he wants to chill out. And he's like, you got it.
He got out there. He went harder.

Speaker 1 I didn't harder at the press conference. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I don't like when he's mean, but I do like his face. He's not mean.
When's he mean? I I don't know.

Speaker 1 Well, he was for the Jews in that one.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 John Wei Lee by unanimous decision, ladies and gentlemen. 4-1.
Yeah. Yeah.
4-1. Of course.
And super impressive. And it ended up on top in the last round.

Speaker 1 Still lost that round, though. Yeah, but not apparently.
But not 10-8.

Speaker 1 No, not 10-8. But Tatiana looked like she was on her way to a mauling.
All that happened was

Speaker 1 a fucking monster. Monster.

Speaker 1 What a problem she is. For top 10, it's tough because you're 31 coming off these injuries.
You had to shot the title. You're not even close to the

Speaker 1 spent most of the fight on your back, which is crazy. It's tough.
I wouldn't be surprised if she retires.

Speaker 1 Well, who knows? I mean, she might have had a real hard camp with all those injuries. Oh, she's getting.

Speaker 1 I just think striking-wise, it's very different.

Speaker 1 This is ground and bounce on from the top, though. This is top control.
Like, forget about the striking, which is amazing, but Zhang Wei is dominating her on the ground. Yeah.
I mean, beating her up.

Speaker 1 You know, who looked good with the Jasmine?

Speaker 1 Look at this. Oh, she looked four.
She looked really good.

Speaker 1 Two, one, honk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was rough. Wow, that was rough.
It's tough. Yeah, she's dreams are dashed.
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 At least give the girl a hug. I mean, come on now.
It's tough. It's devastating.
Yeah, but shit, man. I think they'll hug in the future.
You know why it's devastating?

Speaker 1 Because there's nothing she can do to beat her. There's not enough hours in the game.
There's no game plan. You can't catch that.
The gap. That's a big.

Speaker 1 And you're 31. So So, who else for her? Who else is in Zhang Wei Li's division that's compelling? There's nothing.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 There's good girls. Women fighting right now.
It's tough. Jasmine, Jasmine, our girl, the Canadian.
What about Rose Nama Junas? She's gone up to 135. Damn,

Speaker 1 125. She's gone up to fly weight

Speaker 1 instead of straw weight.

Speaker 1 They're fighting at 115. But Tatiana looks way bigger than that.
Doesn't she? Hell yeah. She almost looks like a bantam weight.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She definitely looks like a a 125er. Tough, tough, standing up with no problem.
Look at this. Oh, man, that was a mistake.
Yeah, that's all the guillotine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but she didn't have any answers. It's just, it's a it's just so impressive, the takedown defense.
So impressive. And the ability to scramble and always wind up on top, like right here, man.

Speaker 1 That's so impressive. What's the difference? She's a great athlete.
Oh, just a tank, man. And also, skills.
Just, it's like you gotta, it's not just athleticism.

Speaker 1 It's she's doing the right thing at every step. Like here.

Speaker 1 She defends the trip. Bro, we were right.
We were.

Speaker 1 Oh, you guys are so cool.

Speaker 1 We feel cool. We're the cool kids.
And Superman's for kids.

Speaker 1 The super dog can go eat chicks.

Speaker 1 I was on the board till Super Dog. No, no, no.
Listen.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm giving off.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to try to fuck you. Does the dog have a cape?

Speaker 1 The James gun. This makes no sense.
So stupid. Fuck that dog.
Listen. Listen.
You're a dog person. I love dogs.
Mate, show me what you're talking about. I love dogs.

Speaker 1 I love dogs, but that dog can go eat shit.

Speaker 1 You give a fuck if I show them what I'm talking about. I hope Super Wolf eats that dog.
I hope they keep that dog chained up outside. Oh, the half-guard escape? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do it right over here. Well,

Speaker 1 right here. I don't want to get it.

Speaker 1 Someone else is going to have to explain it. Okay.
I don't give a shit.

Speaker 1 Want to jump on me? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 How are we going to see this?

Speaker 1 No one's going to see it. No one's going to see it.
Oh, it's doing you guys. We can talk about it.
No, no, because he's such a bitch. We're here.
Sorry, I got to take these off.

Speaker 1 Brian, film this, and you can get Instagram followers. Don't put on here.
Oh, Brian, get on me, big guy. All right.
Come here, fella.

Speaker 2 You said you have bad. No, no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 Now, if I'm here, and I should have the undog.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, we're back. Even if I'm flying, okay.
What's that? I can't get a camera on. No, it's okay.
Brian's gonna film it. Brian, are you feeling this?

Speaker 1 Sometimes you're here.

Speaker 2 If I bring my weight forward, he can't stop me from getting here. But that's what you're gonna do.

Speaker 2 So from this position, even if he keeps the weight on, limp arm. See my level body? Look what I do with this leg.
Is your leg good arm? Yeah. If I I pull this leg out and bring my pelvis forward.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Did you see that? Yeah. No, it was getting height.
Now we both got high. Now we're going to scramble.
Well, we're going to scramble unless I want to get this release.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Limp arm out with the left arm.

Speaker 1 But when I bring that leg out and put the pelvis forward, look how I can just get out of that.

Speaker 1 Technique, my friend. Technique.
You know, but that's such a, dude, it's such a

Speaker 1 technique.

Speaker 1 Now I'm even shorter with my shoes.

Speaker 1 But even with huge guys, man, it's so fucking good to get out from.

Speaker 1 Isn't it fascinating? Just technique,

Speaker 1 technique, and just knowing position. It makes everything so much more smooth and sweet.
Such a beautiful sport. God damn, I love it.
Oh, it's the best.

Speaker 1 Jiu-Jitsu, it's like watching someone pull something off that's magical. It's just like, fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 I know, dude. I get so excited still when my guys are just pulling shit off.
Oh, yeah. Grown-ass men, I go, you know, you get it, because every time they get something, I'm like, oh, gold star!

Speaker 1 Gold stall for John Perez. I'm like, you know, you're going to go home and tell your wife you got a gold star.
You're a grown-ass man. And they do.
I did. I saw my wife.
It's exciting. I fuck around.

Speaker 1 That's why when people don't care about belts. Oh, I don't care about belts.
Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah, you do.
Yeah, everyone does. Yeah, you do.
Yeah, you do. Well, you know, it's like...

Speaker 1 The time they put into it, it's like getting a nice pat on the back. Yeah.
Well, it's also, it's like there's stages that show you you're legit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like Rick Caruso, the guy was running for mayor of LA, his son reached Purple Belt. I said, hey.
That's a big deal.

Speaker 1 That's a big fucking deal.

Speaker 1 You're basically a black belt. You just got to keep training.
Yes, if you can get to purple belt, you can get to black belt.

Speaker 1 You just got to stay at it and trust the process and keep training hard, and you'll get to black belt. Because how many people get it? Because a lot of people get black.
Right.

Speaker 1 Because people get blue belt. It's like, you know, that's great.
It's a nice little motivator. But you show me you got purple belt.
That means you're tapping out legit guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now you got some moves. You probably got one nasty.
So the worst to roll with. Oh, yeah, they explode.
They're exploding. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have the skills. They still have the experience.
I think when I move to Austin, if I really apply myself, by by the time I'm 65,

Speaker 1 we got to get you on the peptide, son. You're fucking around with nature for too long.
I know. Nature's boring.
Father Time's undefeated. I swear to God, I'm not sure.
Father Time is undefeated.

Speaker 1 He's 10-8.

Speaker 1 10-8 against Brown. He's going to have one on top.
Fuck with that stem cells and stuff. You're taught that on that small thing against Father Time.

Speaker 1 We'll do another Protect Your Neck, and I'll bring you in the day early, and we'll get you to the stem cell place ways to well. No problem.
You just tell them when.

Speaker 1 I plan on going with my buddy Abe to Columbia and

Speaker 1 come to Austin first because we'll get it all gratus you'll get it for freeze for freezies I'll have uh ways to well hook you up and then uh you know we'll do a protection there we'll do a fun man we got to do another one those are fun those are fun we do uh John Rollo Dean Thomas and Matt is fucking amazing we've never played him he's the best

Speaker 1 John Rollo's the best oh he's funny man I love him

Speaker 1 he's fun

Speaker 1 and he's an ogre oh he's a he's a gigantic human being

Speaker 1 big ass black belt

Speaker 1 he was well over 300 pounds at one point. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Here it is, folks. The fucking motherfucking main event.
Where's that lighter for my cigar? There you go, sir. I don't smoke cigars.

Speaker 1 He's all warmed. It is.
He's all warmed up. Dude, bless me.
So, B, you're doing well tonight. So, you got, I mean, you took the favorite, though.
You got Strickland. But you got Strickland? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're taking the dog?

Speaker 1 Who you got, Shoblin?

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for Strickland.

Speaker 1 But DDP, it's he's hard because he's going to push the pace, and it's really hard. If I were to put money out, probably DDP, but I'm rooting for Strickland.

Speaker 1 The only thing about...

Speaker 1 I like the mustache. I really do.

Speaker 1 I like him with the mustache. He's like old Bronson, a fucking psychotic guy from Australia.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 He looks like a killer. He is.
He's awesome. I think he's very focused.
I'm fucking fired up for this.

Speaker 1 His boxing's outstanding. It's just a lot of fun.
I'm just curious what changes Strickland can make. He has a great team.

Speaker 1 I think the best, you know, besides Matt's team, probably the best coaching staff they have.

Speaker 1 Yo, Nick Sick. Who's this? You're saying? Nick Sick.

Speaker 1 What is this? Mickey 17.

Speaker 1 What is it? It looks like a fun, like, black. Oh, his hand just got chopped off.
He plays a guy that's

Speaker 1 made into clones, and they keep testing him out.

Speaker 1 So they keep testing his, like, what can you... pushing him until he dies and then they transfer his consciousness into a new body and then the clones find themselves fuck that

Speaker 1 the clones aren't dying is what that's like fish on the trailer oh my God.

Speaker 1 Bro, that's a real problem with when they can duplicate your consciousness and put it on a hard drive. What's to stop someone like Trump from doing it a million times?

Speaker 1 I'm going to have a million of me.

Speaker 1 I'm back.

Speaker 1 I'm back. Have a million Trumps.
If we get to a point where you can make a clone, and we're probably already done that, China's probably already have clones. I bet they have clones.

Speaker 1 Trump would already do it, but I don't know how to do it. You can clone your dog.

Speaker 1 So you could probably clone a person. Yeah, but can you get their consciousness into them? Definitely not.
Like twins are different. Yeah.
Right? Twins are like pretty close to them.

Speaker 1 That Thomas Campbell podcast was, to me, the most mind-blowing thing. Wild stuff, right? Fuck.
Wild stuff. It's just close to unlocking the secrets of what...
Like, that might be the new evolution.

Speaker 1 Like, we're going to realize that there's something beyond evolution. Like, evolution is within a larger umbrella, which is the notion that

Speaker 1 this is a virtual reality. This is a simulation.
It's a virtual reality you're experiencing with consciousness. Yes.
And consciousness helps form it. Yes.

Speaker 1 I was literally just experiencing virtual reality. Literally.
That's what we were saying. I was just playing my phone.
When I knew

Speaker 1 when I called you and I couldn't get to you, when I was inviting you to dinner, I was like, he's probably got the fucking headset on.

Speaker 1 Do you got a camera in there? A camera in the fucking thing?

Speaker 1 No, it's fun.

Speaker 1 Last night I sent you the picture. Yeah, you sent me the picture.
You're addicted. What game you played again? Contractor's Showdown.
Contractor Showdown. Did you ever play Modern Warfare? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Same shit, but in VR.

Speaker 1 Oh! Fucking nergasm. I don't want to do it.
I might get addicted to that shit. Listen, you gotta be careful.
I play that shit in the hotel. People think I'm,

Speaker 1 sometimes I'm yelling and shit. Are you playing other people?

Speaker 1 People probably think somebody's getting murdered. I'm like, I'm stamming them.
Are you playing the game or other people? I'm playing the game. No, no, I squat up.

Speaker 1 There's no way you can say this without sounding like a fucking nerd. Stop it.
I see you getting ready. But yeah.
No, because I squat up. There's groups of three.
There it is. Here we fucking go.

Speaker 1 Contractors showdown. Let's go.

Speaker 1 You're welcome, Lord. M1 rifle.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 Dude, the sniping on this. That's the lobby right there.

Speaker 1 But that's the gameplay right here. You get out of an airplane, you fucking find weapons, and you just...
All in virtual reality. Yes.
But in virtual reality, like you're loading shit.

Speaker 1 How do you have time to do this?

Speaker 1 With all your jiu-jitsu. What's that? How do you have time to do this? You make the time to.
Dude, I don't. First of all, I don't do shit.
All I do is go to my school and I do my podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm doing my thing with Jimmy on Filter. I do my new podcast, Matt Serichano.
You're an OS book club. So glad you're talking about it.

Speaker 1 All I do is talk about those Superman trailers and fucking all that geek shit. But I had George St.
Pierre on the other day. Nice.
And yeah, so but. Look at this fucking game.
This is amazing.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is fun, dude. You like this.
And what are you using for a gun? Like, what kind of gun? Well, you got the controllers.

Speaker 1 You got the controllers.

Speaker 1 But when you, your hands are the controllers. So, like, you pick up a gun, you take the thing out.
So you're really doing shit with your fucking hands. I'm surprised they don't make like a

Speaker 1 fake gun. This is a great game.
This is a fantastic game. This is wild.
Contract is showdown.

Speaker 1 When they have, like, where it turns into a workout.

Speaker 1 Well, they have some on, they have these unidirectional treadmills. Have you ever seen those? They strap you in on your chest so you can't move and you can run in any direction.
Left, right, right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, might. So

Speaker 1 you're in like this like a halo that goes around your waist and it's connected to these cables that's attached to this like circular unidirectional treadmill and you run in any direction and you really do work out and guys are fucking screaming at each other they're all got their heads see if you can find my wife was gonna get that Jamie my wife was gonna get that

Speaker 1 thing right there so that's a unidirectional treadmill it's fucking badass so you get on that thing and when you're on it you're running around so watch this guy's on it he's gonna start moving you start walking look at that whoa isn't that crazy you know what my wife can run she got me one of those vests that when you shoot

Speaker 1 i didn't get it yeah she got me that i didn't get it hooked up yet

Speaker 1 these kids now who have been playing these games with the guns, when they go to a shooting range, this SWAT guy was saying, these kids are fucking as good as anybody.

Speaker 1 Well, there's the kid who does the simulation. They made a movie out of it.
He played Grant Turismo, then he actually raced for Nismo

Speaker 1 and came in third. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 That's what's going on with shooting. These kids are all headshots.

Speaker 1 Do you know they did studies with surgeons and they found that surgeons who play video games make like 25% less errors? Wow. Yeah.
That makes sense. That's 37%.
37% less errors. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. So it's like, it's real like hand-eye coordination and feedback and motion.
Of course. And I'm in a house of women, man.
Like my wife, my three daughters, they're watching

Speaker 1 a mask singer or something. I can be in the room with them.
Which is fun. You got that.
That's wild. That makes sense.
I did the boxing thing. That's pretty fun.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 You're in the room with them. They're watching fucking Gone Girl or something.
Oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yeah, it's fun, man. It's a workout, though.
But my son does the VR boxing. Sweats is it.
Me too.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the VR boxing is great.

Speaker 1 Because when you get hit, you see like a flash of light.

Speaker 1 And eventually they'll have something where you're wearing a headset. You'll feel like a vibration in your face.
Like you got thumped. So they made this illegal for the

Speaker 1 MLB, but you can now have a pitcher. They'll take any pitcher like in the major leagues and they'll throw.
It's simple. What is this? You have shoes on now.

Speaker 1 I think I like the treadmill better. I'd fall down if I have those stupid shoes on.

Speaker 1 That looks weird. Yeah, you're going to fall.
He walks weird, too. But they have

Speaker 1 with major league baseball pitchers, they have a simulation and you can see the actual pitcher, and he throws whatever he throws, the ball comes at you. Who told you? And they made it illegal.

Speaker 1 No, they made it illegal.

Speaker 1 They don't want anybody in the major leagues actually using it. That's not lying.
That's worse. That's just illegal.

Speaker 1 Kevin Babe was talking about it. The machine's like $100,000.

Speaker 1 You can't have it. What happens? You get a roast.
So you get a teletime.

Speaker 1 It gives them too much of an advantage, apparently. So they said you can't.

Speaker 1 We don't want you to be good. Yeah, that's what happens.
You guys don't know. Shut up.
Find that out, Jamie. It's sticking in his face.
You know it can't be true. No, it is.
Find it. Find that.

Speaker 1 Are video games illegal in MLB? No, no, no. You can't play.
You can't have the actual picture simulated. Whatever I was drinking.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about how much better Jamie is at golf than you. I know.
How much better his drive was. Your swing is great, dude.
It was very depressing watching you try to compete with him.

Speaker 1 Oh, you tried to compete with Jamie. You tried to compete with Jamie's drive.
My swing was actually rather beautiful. It wasn't that that good.

Speaker 1 You got like 45 yards. Jamie got two sides.

Speaker 1 First of all, it was longer than 45, and plus, I wasn't warmed out. Off the deck, by the way, not even with the T.
Jamie, you play how you play like real, or you just play virtual shit.

Speaker 1 No, I play real. Yeah, touch some grass.
He's good, man. Virtual shit is where he hones

Speaker 1 skills. Yeah, touch grass, though.
He's strong. Look at Strickland.
I love it. You got a touch grass.

Speaker 1 But he's got that smooth.

Speaker 1 He's got that man's body.

Speaker 1 Just like a fucking Charles Bronson. Oh, I'm so pumped for this fight.
Yeah, this is wild, man.

Speaker 1 I'm just curious what changes Strickland's going to make to win more rounds. Well, he's going to break the takedowns.
Does he grapple less? Grapple less. Or more.
Does he shoot for takedowns?

Speaker 1 He said he thinks he's going to piece him up. That's what he said.
Which means on the feet, jab, teep, a lot of jabs and teeps. I think you're going to see DDP wrestle more.
I think he's going to.

Speaker 1 I think DDP is. I think we can see some Strickland because remember, this is the same coach that with Francis had him shoot more surprise every day.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think he's going to do a lot of restaurants. That staff looks legit.

Speaker 1 That staff on his left arm, that looks legit. That looks like real staff to me.

Speaker 1 That's not good. Yeah, that looks like real staff.
So he's probably on antibiotics. I got to think so.
And if he is, that's not good. Unless he said, fuck it, let's just go topical.
I bet.

Speaker 1 And control it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he might just control it with topical. Yeah, you don't want to use the antibiotics.
Because

Speaker 1 you can control it with topical if you stay on that. Looks like it got dug out a little bit.
Yeah, looks like a pus. It looks like a big old giant zit.
That's where they get scary when they get big.

Speaker 1 Because you think they're getting systemic. You know, they're getting your bloodstream.
I got a boil, a something called falunco or some shit on my fucking collarbone when I was in Brazil.

Speaker 1 Dude, that was the most disgusting. What shit? First of all, the mats were disgusting.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't staff. I think

Speaker 1 they called a boil here or something, whatever it was. But

Speaker 1 it got really big, like a big zit.

Speaker 1 And then finally it like comes to a head and then at the end you pull out a little piece of phlegm it looked like a bullet wound and it was

Speaker 1 I had cancer on my back I they took out a squamous cell oh yeah

Speaker 1 you out did me there

Speaker 1 I beat cancer

Speaker 1 you had a fucking little pus I had cancer I beat cancer but it kept itching and I was like the fuck is why is this itching and I went and they took out a piece she called me up she goes you got a little squamous cell there man

Speaker 1 it was a while ago Drakes.

Speaker 1 They just gave me a cream I got to put on my nose. You see this little mark here? What is it?

Speaker 1 What is it? It's like a little basil cell. The lady said that she's giving me some chemo cream.

Speaker 1 It's a basil cell, maybe. Yeah, she goes,

Speaker 1 but I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 They said,

Speaker 1 I'll use it. I'll start it next week.
I was supposed to start it a week ago, but

Speaker 1 because it's supposed to get like crusty and it's getting all nasty.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck around with something that doesn't, like, if it keeps bleeding, that's not a deal. Well, she said to go back to see her after two weeks of using it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And she'll know if she has to cut me or anything. Yeah.
Take it out. It's from the sun.
I like the sun, man. The sun's good for you.
Dude, I was laying out today in the fucking back of my pocket.

Speaker 1 That was nice out. It is good for you.
All that bullshit about the sun being bad for you is nonsense.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't get overexposure and get burned. Right.
I don't believe in sunscreen. It's supposed to build up.
Moderation. You get dark.
Yeah, I don't use sunscreen. I never have.
Even as a kid.

Speaker 1 Good for you. That shit's poison.
Yeah, facts. I mean, they have some natural sunscreens, but it looks like you're wearing blackface.
Oh, no, no. Oh,

Speaker 1 What does natural sunscreen look like?

Speaker 1 It looks like you're goth kid. Sink cream, you know? Yeah, so you see babes lathering their kids up with them.
Like, give them some sun. Yeah.
They need to. Everyone's scared of sunburn.

Speaker 1 And everyone's scared of sunburn. Depends on your skin.
That's right.

Speaker 1 What's up, Jamie?

Speaker 1 What's this? You see this fucking mustache? I give staff. I don't fucking get staff.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right.
That was his take on it. You see this fucking mustache? I give staff.
Strickland asked if I got a staff staff. I don't fucking get staff.
Well, that means he has staff.

Speaker 1 You see what Strickland said? But the press constantly goes, you fight like a like you ride the short bus like a retard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He does fight. And then Drickus goes, and you look like the one driving it.
That's funny. But the problem with that is like the one driving it is a normal person.
Yeah. Not a good car.

Speaker 1 I heard that a great word. It didn't work.
I liked it, though. Yeah, they're dumb.
They're dumb. They're not thinking logically.
That didn't make sense.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking pumped.

Speaker 1 What do you think? What do you think, Matt?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I'm going with Strickland.

Speaker 1 I feel like Strickland's going to win by decision.

Speaker 1 Smart money's on DZB. You know why? Because he adds in those takedowns.
But he takes away those takedowns and he puts a little more stank on it.

Speaker 1 I feel, who knows how much that cut really bothered him with that eye? Because he's making,

Speaker 1 I think he's an honest guy and he's saying it fucked with him.

Speaker 1 I'm sure it did.

Speaker 1 I have to say that Strickland stands pretty straight up, so he does seem open for takedowns, and I'm surprised he's hard to take down. I know.
He's hard to take down. Strickland is taken down.

Speaker 1 He's fucking skillful, and he spars so much. I know.
You know, he spars more than anybody in the UFC.

Speaker 1 When they put that mouthpiece in that registers how many times you get hit, he gets hit less than anybody. He's the best strike in defense ever.
Yeah, ever. That's why I love watching him.

Speaker 1 He's amazing.

Speaker 1 But deep, he's so big. I thought he won the first fight.
He has a little salt.

Speaker 1 I thought he won the first fight, but I thought it was close. Dana thought he won the first fight, too yeah

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 he might have been compromised with that with that eye he definitely was but i think also i think drickus is even better yeah i think drickas just keeps getting better yeah he's got that belief in himself oh man

Speaker 1 and he's huge when i stand next to him i can't believe he makes 185. i mean literally when in between fights he looks like a heavyweight

Speaker 1 he's so big he looked like he was 240 standing next to bisbang and bisbang's picture 220 yeah well he looked real thin at the weigh-ins yesterday and he looks like like he filled in a lot.

Speaker 1 They interviewed him like pretty much right after he got on the scales, which I always think sucks. Yeah.
Gave the guy a few hours.

Speaker 1 You're not allowed to do

Speaker 1 IVs? No, you're not. Why? I don't know.
I think he's stupid. Me too.
I think he had masks. I got an IV today.
It was awesome. I love IVs.

Speaker 1 IV vitamins and zinc. Whenever I'm feeling kind of shitty, I get it.
IV, NAD, vitamins. Yeah, what about NADA and NAD? Oh, it's great.
It is? Phenomenal. What do they say? What do they say?

Speaker 1 Did it make you gay? You have to shoot it into your body first?

Speaker 1 No, you don't take it supplement-wise. You shoot it? No,

Speaker 1 you can take NMN, which helps build up it naturally. Right.
It has kind of a similar effect, but I think IV NAD is the most potent form of it. You take a lot of stuff.
That's right, bitch.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Feeling good. I like it.
Feeling good at 85 years old. Not bad, buddy.

Speaker 1 When are you 58?

Speaker 1 August. Yep.
Is it going to feel weird when you say you're 60? Because it felt weird when I was... 50 felt a little weird.
I don't you're 50, but I honestly fucking 50, bro.

Speaker 1 You don't look it. Sorry, guys.
I know you're approaching the other one, but you look 50. You look good.
I'm 57. I'll be 58.
I don't think about it anymore because there's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 1 All I think about is making sure my body works great.

Speaker 1 And as long as I stay up on the peptides and the hormones and train all the time and constantly work out, do a bunch of different things.

Speaker 1 Kettlebells, cardio, cold plunge, sauna, every day, all these different things. It stays stays working.
But if you look at a 58-year-old from like the 1960s, they were dead, man. They were dead.

Speaker 1 It's a different thing. Like, 58's different than what it was.
Bro, I'm sweating. I'm getting ready for this fight.
I'm fucking fired.

Speaker 1 I can't wait. I'm sweating.
DDP has actually skinny legs, so a lot of his weights in his upper body. I don't know if their skin is.

Speaker 1 I mean, comparatively, comparatively. Fucking Pierre's ass.
He's got more ass than Beyonce, man. That ass is on a different level.
I don't know about that. Who, bro? Pereira, you mean?

Speaker 1 I mean, Pereira. Oh, yeah, my kids.
Unbelievable. Bro, that's the scariest kickboxer that's ever fought in the sport.
Oh, you fuck up one time.

Speaker 1 Oh, it just takes one. No, no, no.
Pereira.

Speaker 1 One shot. He takes it to Strickland.
Greatest defensive fighter we've seen. He's just.
Just one left hook. Starched up.

Speaker 1 Starched up. Tagged him a couple times in the chest.
Got him reaching for it. Came over with that left hook.

Speaker 1 Fortnite. For Izzy's legacy.
It's nice he had that one time. It's nice.
And the way he did it, the way he exceros at the end. He has.
That's enough just to be like, oh,

Speaker 1 you know what? Oh, he's like.

Speaker 1 I think with Alex, there's a difference between MMA striking, like the elite strikers, and then actual elite strikers. Right.

Speaker 1 He's an actual elite two-division glory world champion. Hugely difference.
But there's that dude Vahitov that's now in MMA who beat him in glory in his last fight. Close fight, decision.

Speaker 1 Super controversial fight, yeah. But he won and he landed more shots than Pereira.
And he's got a style that doesn't leave any openings. He's like very technical.
He's like a really good kickboxer.

Speaker 1 I don't know what kind of a ground game, if anything, he has. They got DDP listed at 6'1.

Speaker 1 He's not 6'2? He looks 6'2 to me. But those guys like that that are Russian, those Russian dudes, they learn wrestling when they're fucking babies anyway.

Speaker 1 I guarantee that guy has some sort of a Sambo background.

Speaker 1 The shape he's in. Holy shit.
He's just strong as fuck. Yeah, Vahitov is interesting because I think he just fought on Dana White's contender series.
They signed him? I think they signed him.

Speaker 1 It seems that Artem Vahitov, if he fought on Dana White's contender series. He's just going to have a tough path to get to Alex.

Speaker 1 Alex was catapulted to the front because Izzy was so dominant, so they sped him to the front. Right.
It's going to be different. No, it's different.

Speaker 1 Also, it's different because Alex puts people into night-night land. And Vahitov.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he won by TKO. Vahitov is fucking good, man.
Super technical. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Let's fuck this. Here we go.
This is an insane way to make a living.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. I fucking love it, man.
This is it. This is it.
Here we we go. Here we fucking go.
All right. Round one.
Let's go. Look at that.

Speaker 1 I'm so curious on the adjustments they make.

Speaker 1 I think Sean fights one way, man.

Speaker 1 He's going to just do more of it.

Speaker 1 It's such a good way. It's such a good way.
That jab is just so hard to fuck with. Straight up.

Speaker 1 DDP did a lot of that in that first fight, too. That left switch kick.
Beats up the arms a little bit.

Speaker 1 you know because even if you block it like that sucks

Speaker 1 that sucks i mean it sucks your calf imagine what it's doing your forearm

Speaker 1 i mean so many times guys arms go numb and you just don't know it because they're still moving around it's not like a calf where you see them limping

Speaker 1 i mean how much does that shit take out of your punching power that kick yeah he was slick with that he landed a lot of those in the first fight

Speaker 1 it's just he's a guy that for whatever reason because the way he moves people sleep on him Yeah, they don't give him the respect. It's weird.

Speaker 1 He doesn't look like your conventional elite. Oh, look at that.
Yeah. Sneaky question mark kick.

Speaker 1 He keeps throwing that up to the top. It's quick, too.
And he's got the endurance to keep throwing them. And there's the low kick.

Speaker 1 John's really good at checking his kicks, but he's not checking these.

Speaker 1 Well, he does that same style of checking kicks that Pereira does. You got it for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he hacky sacks.

Speaker 1 You turn that foot all the way up towards your knee. Love the jab, man.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 He's so smooth, man.

Speaker 1 But DDP's doing a smart thing by attacking the legs. Really smart.
Attacking the legs and attacking the arm with the switch kick and then threatening with the high kick. Ouch.
Ouch.

Speaker 1 That's just an investment for later rounds. It's such an awkward way of moving.
It's so weird. Like Robert Whitaker and Izzy were talking about.
They're like, he's the best shit fighter ever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But how do you say that?

Speaker 1 How do you say he's a shit fighter? The guy's a fucking world champion. But it's just, it's awkward, but so effective.
Like, when he took out Robert Whitaker in the first round, I was like, my God.

Speaker 1 He's powerful, athletic. Oh, my God.
He's so strong. Just durable.
It's durable as fucking. This is the old feeling outstage.

Speaker 1 But that move that he's doing. Sean

Speaker 1 back, though. It's interesting.
Oh, spinning back.

Speaker 1 Well, this is where Sean fights at his best. But DDP is by doing those switch kicks and those low kicks.
There, he did the hacky sack on that one. That's standing in your grill.
Look at Sean.

Speaker 1 Pop, pop.

Speaker 1 That is a dangerous move. That left kick because it's sneaky.
He didn't land it to the face in the first fight, but he threatened with it a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 If he can land that, that's a fucking fight changer.

Speaker 1 God, like.

Speaker 1 Sean's so hard to hit. He is, man.
So hard to hit clean. His instincts and his timing because he sporrows so much.
He's active out there, man. Oh, yeah.
DP's winning the round.

Speaker 1 Well, he's certainly landing more kicks. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 That's what matters for the judges.

Speaker 1 Well, damage matters. I mean, if Sean can get off a 1-2,

Speaker 1 if he could do something significant. But right now, it's like

Speaker 1 touching him. And DDP's not letting him set up.
Nope. He's not letting him get it in a groove.
Sean does not kick that much, you know? And when he kicks, it's very linear.

Speaker 1 He's got a really fucked up left. Was it right leg? Yeah, it's quad.
He doesn't have a quad. It's all fucked up for him.
Really? He was just riding a motorcycle on the countdown show and fell down.

Speaker 1 He's crazy. Yeah, he fell down.
He's crazy.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's got a giant fight coming up, up, and he's still riding motorcycles.

Speaker 1 He was wrestling with guys in Australia on a beach on a bridge, throwing them into the water. Yeah.
So he backflips. I saw that.
Yeah. It's an animal.
He's getting out pointed right now, though.

Speaker 1 Only because he's not busy enough. No, DDP's winning this round.

Speaker 1 He's definitely more active. Oh, there's that jab.
Boy, you hit DDP. He gets mad.
Yeah, he does.

Speaker 1 He goes bulldog mode on you.

Speaker 1 He's just got to do something significant other than just touch him with the jab.

Speaker 1 Sean? Yeah. He really doesn't do much more than that.
Well, he's looking for them openings. And right.

Speaker 1 That low kick is so nice. Yeah, it is.
That time is so nice.

Speaker 1 And I think DDP just keeps getting better, too. That's the thing.
And then as a champion, you know, I mean, I think he's got even more confidence.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think DP has a lot more growth and adjustments to make to beat Strickland. And the kicks are just a totally different element, right? I mean, it's a distance thing.

Speaker 1 It's a, you know, it's a power thing. You got to kind of like, you can't fire back when they're hitting you.
You got to really block them.

Speaker 1 And think about it, he hasn't even started grappling yet, so that's still in the chamber.

Speaker 1 It's just Sean is like mostly teeps and then jab one, two, but it's almost all straight at you. Very few low kicks.

Speaker 1 This took place in the center. We're eating that.
See, it's all the teeps.

Speaker 1 He's doing a good job of avoiding those big bombs, though, that are coming at him. He's so hard to hit, man.

Speaker 1 He is, but he's getting his legs chewed up, man. That was the first round for Champion.

Speaker 1 You go back to the corner, you're like, bud, we can't keep doing this. Yeah.
You've got to take away those legs.

Speaker 1 Here's the question. Which is not around.
Is Trickling on antibiotics?

Speaker 1 I mean, that looks like a real fucking staph infection. I know Rockhold beat Wyden.
He was on antibiotics.

Speaker 1 You know, guys have won big fights on antibiotics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's so hard to fight on that stuff.

Speaker 1 Your energy is drained.

Speaker 1 The worst. Oh, it's hard.
I mean, he's, unless he's just

Speaker 1 keeping his energy for the later rounds. Matt, is there a way to mitigate the effects of antibiotics? Have you ever heard of anything that guys take? Nah, man, I didn't hear anything.

Speaker 1 Like heavy probiotics? Is there anything that you can take?

Speaker 1 I have no clue, dude. I know Murab fought his first fight when he was getting over something.
And I still think he won. He got robbed.
But

Speaker 1 I know antibiotics. It hits your heart.
Either he's on it. I knew he just got over it, it, but I think it was.
They said that last fight when Rob had a horrible staph infection on his shin. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dad, he had a bad problem.

Speaker 1 I broke my back.

Speaker 1 He's just like, Rob, you won. You won.
Dude.

Speaker 1 DDP. All right, let's go,

Speaker 1 let's go. Let's see what adjustments Strickland makes.
I don't think he's going to make any adjustments. I think he's going to be able to get a lot of things.
He's got to be busy.

Speaker 1 Well, he's got to make some adjustments to deal with these kicks. He's going to lose five rounds if he doesn't change.

Speaker 1 And DDP is going to start wrestling soon, too. Because once Strickland starts committing, he's going to start shooting.
DDP is so sneaky with that high kick. That's a nasty high kick, man.

Speaker 1 And there's a low kick again.

Speaker 1 He checked that one. Yeah, he checked it.
He's got to get through that shell, man. It's got to get a little loose.
Yeah, he's got to do something big.

Speaker 1 He chased to get on his bike.

Speaker 1 It's got to be frustrating that you can just do whatever you want to DDP and he just absorbs it. Oh,

Speaker 1 there again, he's sneaking that kick in.

Speaker 1 He's got to get busy here.

Speaker 1 See, Strickland's doing a great job of avoiding a lot of shots, but he's just not doing much. Right.
And DDP keeps chopping up the legs. It's not everything in a fight, but it's something, you know?

Speaker 1 It's like no headshots have been landed. Yeah, in this fight, it's everything.
It's all

Speaker 1 that's been landed to the body. Again.
He's catching his elbow, though. Yeah, but still, that's horrible, dude.

Speaker 1 It's some points, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's something.

Speaker 1 It's the most. Oh, there's a right hand over the top.

Speaker 1 Needs a little more of that. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 DDP is going to start rushing. Yeah, I'm surprised.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can imagine part of the gameplay. Oh, he's Russia.
Strickland's turning the gas. This is what we need.

Speaker 1 Strickland's hitting the gas now.

Speaker 1 We need this.

Speaker 1 He can't leave these rounds in the hands of the judges. It's the second round already.

Speaker 1 Oh, again.

Speaker 1 Checked it. I know, but it's still, it's like he's keeping him off balance with all that shit.

Speaker 1 And every time he goes to set up, which he sets up with everybody, DDP is just constantly doing this. Low kick with the right coming.
There it is.

Speaker 1 It's like he's constantly got these patterns that he throws. In that stance, it's the switch.
Switching out, yeah. Sean's coming out.
Oh, there's a left hand. Oh, he landed that left hand.

Speaker 1 He's coming. He cut his lip.
Yeah, it did.

Speaker 1 Because he's landing that in the transitions of these. Oh, there's a hand.
Ah, that was a nice counter. Nice right hand.
Nice right hand. Oh, yeah.
Just no power. Oh, there it is.
There it is.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 You got to put yourself a little in harm's way to do harm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 That's a fast front check kick, man. He needs to get DDP to start engaging in a boxing slug fest.
Because DDP is doing such a smart move with mixing and all these kicks, which fucks with everything.

Speaker 1 It fucks with your ability to time everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you have to keep getting reset. You get to keep reset.
And every time you do it, he hits you again with it. Yeah, he's not letting him get caught.
Oh, Strickland's.

Speaker 1 Nice, Sean. Where's he bleeding from? Where's Strickland at? lip? His mouth.
He got caught with a jab. He's having a way better round, though.

Speaker 1 He's also much more aggressive. Yeah.
Much more forward. This is it.

Speaker 1 This is it. Yeah, Sean.
Let's go. America.
America. He's getting in the zone now, man.
Damn, Sean can just stand right there and just...

Speaker 1 He can celebrate in the Gulf of America after this.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice inside local. These fucking kicks are a pain in the ass.
They're a pain in the ass because he's constantly resetting you.

Speaker 1 You know, again,

Speaker 1 he's constantly resetting. He never gives you a chance.
They're again, high kick. He's just, again, low-kicks.
He's a big kicks. Yeah.
And the fucking, it's a smart game plan, man.

Speaker 1 Until Sean shuts it down, he's just going to keep. Well, he can keep doing this.
He can keep doing this. He's spanking rounds.
And it's going to take Sean's legs away from him if he keeps doing it.

Speaker 1 I mean, Sean, as tough as he is, can only take so many of those fucking kicks to the legs. He keeps

Speaker 1 on. He checked out.
He's constantly doing shit. I know, but even checking them, and they fucking blow.

Speaker 1 They suck. Yep.
Come on, make it in. His left leg is all welted up.
Make it ugly, man. Got to make it ugly.
Yeah, he's going to have to stop laying stuff outside. There's the jab.

Speaker 1 Right hand to the body. Nice.
Fucking nice.

Speaker 1 There's another hard low kick, man. These are hard kicks, man.

Speaker 1 They're a bitch. It's part of

Speaker 1 the game that Sean just doesn't do.

Speaker 1 It's interesting because he's so good but it's like such a specific attack but he's so good at it oh oh he snuck it in again

Speaker 1 he touched him with that crazed him look at that I mean he's not getting clean with that but it counts counts counts it does count

Speaker 1 because Sean definitely doesn't want him kicking him in the face good ouch that's a nice right hand that's a nice right hand oh

Speaker 1 now that makes it up let's go let's go

Speaker 1 Third fourth is going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 Connor there.

Speaker 1 It is crazy when you look at Sean Style. Like, who fucking fights like this? Stands totally straight up.
Does mostly part of that? Is that why he doesn't have as much power, though? Yes.

Speaker 1 But it's also why he's so fucking hard to hit. Oh, yeah.
He's great defense. Best defense in the game.

Speaker 1 What do you think of that round? Close.

Speaker 1 He's closer. It was closer, but he might have been more active.

Speaker 1 It seemed like he definitely landed more kicks, but Strickland landed a few good punches in that round at least. It was a better round for him, but now he's.

Speaker 1 Great conditioning. Look at that.
Something against rights 28 to 17. Shit.
Wow. He's just more active.
So Strickland's down two rounds now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got to.

Speaker 1 I'm sure Nick Sick's letting him know. And DDP's going to keep doing it.
And once Strickland is just that, then he's

Speaker 1 such a great coach. It's his guy with the red hair.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pereira says Shama. Shama, that means Shama.

Speaker 1 There's that kick. There's a nice jab.

Speaker 1 Right hand over the top. You gotta do some more of that.

Speaker 1 Sean just gets just out of the way of the danger zone. It's just touching him.
Great eyes that can give this boom. Well, he spars so much, man.
And there's something to be said for that. Yep.

Speaker 1 Something to be said for that because that's like the majority of his training is sparring. I think he spars without a headgear, too.
Because it's just, you know. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Round three.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Drick is just constant with these kicks.

Speaker 1 And it's just like it's such an obvious pattern, too. He does it over and over again.

Speaker 1 You see him trying to get into on that one. Shrick is going to have to take some chances here.
Yeah, that was a good check. He checked with the other leg.

Speaker 1 He's got to get something off and really win around definitively and push push a harder pace. Because this shit, like, Drickus could do this from the outside, and he keeps having to reset.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. That little stutter step.
See that little stutter step?

Speaker 1 He's... Okay, he reaches so weird.

Speaker 1 He's in shape, fucking Draco's. Oh, yeah.
There is a shit. Fucking check that one.
Constantly throwing shape. He's more busy, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like Sean is just not getting a chance to get things off. Like, the time he's looking for the openings, they're just not there.

Speaker 1 But as it gets into the pace, if Drick, I mean, Drickus is expending a lot of energy fighting like this. And Strickland usually gets way stronger than the Roman.
There it goes. There it goes.

Speaker 1 I like that to the body, too. More of that.
Body two in the hook, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 More than one punch, more than two. Mix it up.

Speaker 1 What a crazy style.

Speaker 1 Both of them. I mean, very few round kicks, just teeps,

Speaker 1 a lot of jabs. I can see hands.
I can see Strickland doing the bad knuckle eventually. Oh, he could do it.
I can see him doing that, yeah. He'd probably want to do it, too.

Speaker 1 Connor keeps talking about doing it. That might be the next time we see him.
A good chance against Jeremy Stevens. Oh, my God.
Imagine that. Yeah.
He probably said it if they had a lot of caffeine.

Speaker 1 You think we'll ever see Connor in the 19th century? Caffeine?

Speaker 1 I don't know if Connor's ever going to fight again. He's worth so much money.
I don't think so. It's hard when a guy's worth that much much money.
And then when he got

Speaker 1 saucy. What's going to be scary with him in his own life is when he's out of the limelight.
Because I think he's a dude that likes to limelight.

Speaker 1 What's going to happen when he's an older fighter now, retired? Yeah. Officially, no one's expecting him back.
Now what? Right.

Speaker 1 Does he get crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because that's why he keeps teasing the fight to stay in the news.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 That was a good right hand there by Strickland. Let's go, Sean.

Speaker 1 It's just DDP does not give you much chance to set up, man. It's weird shit like that.
Strickland just has to hope he kind of phases. I feel like he just needs to just

Speaker 1 make this uglier. Like, he's got to get closer to him.
It's just not his style. Oh,

Speaker 1 did he catch that? Yep. He got him a little bit with that.
That spin.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 He just, God, he's constantly went. He never rests.
And he's another guy who relies on his fitness too because this is an exhausting style, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, wild when you're walking walking that ring and you're like all right five rounds you know it's probably going five

Speaker 1 it's all exploding and like closing distance that's a nice kick to the body

Speaker 1 he's never stopping man he just does not give strickland a chance to reset

Speaker 1 and strickland's got to get something big off because this could be the round that makes it out of reach strickland seems a little bit

Speaker 1 i want to see what happens if he loses this round he's going to have to be going for broke right because what this is the round that passes him

Speaker 1 to a point where he can't win a decision. Yeah, Strickland comes on heavy in the fourth and fifth, but that the last fight, Strickland didn't do much in the fourth and fifth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but so does Drickus. That's the problem.
There it is. He's got to like do something, put a stamp on this round, like wobble him.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's got to put it on him. He's got to win this round.
Oh, nice. Nice spin.

Speaker 1 That elbow let it flush. Damn, man.
And because he's unable to pressure him, he's still looking fresh. Oh!

Speaker 1 He caught him with a right hand there.

Speaker 1 Open it up a little now. It's just, he's not getting a chance to get that offense off.
It's very impressive. Just, he never gives him a chance to set up.

Speaker 1 Always. I'm just surprised Duplessis isn't going for a single or double.
He doesn't need to.

Speaker 1 Why would you? You're up three rounds.

Speaker 1 Why would you risk it? And get more tired? Because he can do this for five rounds.

Speaker 1 Oh, he clipped him there. There you go.

Speaker 1 That was a a crazy

Speaker 1 swinging right. He still has that in his back pocket.

Speaker 1 Pull it out and he fell.

Speaker 1 It was a hard low kick. Yikes, that kick is low and hard.

Speaker 1 There you go. There you go.
There it is. There it is.
That's the wrestling to Coach Callan. And that's the round ticket.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 We worked on wrestling, guys. He kept his feet.
Sean's going to be a little bit more. He doesn't do much on the takedowns because Sean gets back, but he's got to give it to

Speaker 1 him. He's got to give it to him.
There it is. Yeah, Sean's got to throw some shit.
He's got to really shoot. Sean's down three rounds.
Yeah, he's down three rounds.

Speaker 1 And he knows knows it. Yep.

Speaker 1 He fucking knows it. That's rough.
He seems a little lackadaisical. I wonder if it's the antibiotics.
I wonder. Or is it DDP style? It's both.
It's a problem. It might be both.
Hard to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably both. Probably a combo both.

Speaker 1 I wonder what Nixic is saying to him here.

Speaker 1 We got to open up, take some chances.

Speaker 1 Sean's not taking any damage at all. It's just he's getting his legs kicked and scoring.
No, he's losing the fight.

Speaker 1 He's saying you got to push.

Speaker 1 Here we see. If I'm.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Alright, he's boom. Good right hand by Sean.

Speaker 1 Boom. Oh, he caught him with that.
He got him with that one. This one.
Look at his elbow. Boom.

Speaker 1 But he caught him with his back of the elbow. That was nice.

Speaker 1 Instead of the flush elbow.

Speaker 1 He's got to get fucked.

Speaker 1 He looks a little... He's got to get going.
He's a little tired, actually, there. Yeah, it could be the pace, but it could be the fucking end antibiotics.
of I got to know to lay him.

Speaker 1 Nice kick to the body again. Yeah, that's a pain in the ass.
It's a front foot kick, though.

Speaker 1 So it's not as powerful. Yeah, but it's landing.

Speaker 1 It's scored.

Speaker 1 I like that. To the chinny chin, chin.

Speaker 1 To the chinny chin, chin-chin.

Speaker 1 That was nice. Come on, Sean A.

Speaker 1 He's got to put it on him, though. He's got to really put it on him this round.
He doesn't seem to be falling up that right hand. But it's tough to put it on him because fucking DDP is so dangerous.

Speaker 1 Well, you don't want to get in a slug fest with DDP, right? Yeah, but you kind of have to.

Speaker 1 It's like the other choices. You stay back and you lose a fourth round.
Now you're down 4-0. At a certain point, you got to throw caution to the wind, man.
If you want the win, you got to say fuck it.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 you want to hurt him? You're going to be there to get hurt, but you're going to have to take that chance.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, you're just going to go through. That's what we're doing now is not working.
Yeah, but it is a pain. Every time you you come close you get kicked in the stomach and fucking just the

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 It's just the conditioning. Ooh nice right hand.
The conditioning to fight like this. Oh, he hurt him.
He hurt him. He hurt him.
He did hurt him and he hurt it. Did they break his nose?

Speaker 1 The bridge of the nose? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's trying to fix it.
Yeah, Sean's trying to fix it.

Speaker 1 It looks like he's trying to straighten it out. Damn it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sucks. His nose is broken.

Speaker 1 He smells it too. He must have felt it too, maybe, when he punched him.
He just hit him with that. I don't know, man, but all of of a sudden, it's getting weird.
Look at that nose.

Speaker 1 That nose is a mess. That's not good.
He got his nose. It's like it's painted red.
Oh,

Speaker 1 who knows what the fuck he felt if he was.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. He's leaking.
This is a big round for the champ. Oh, right hand.
Another one. Oh.

Speaker 1 Man, they say

Speaker 1 the damage doesn't look like a fuck. Drick is just such a fucking bulldog, dude.
Drick is smelling blood now.

Speaker 1 But you gotta be careful. Drick fucking can't breathe.
Broken nose. Fuck this.

Speaker 1 It's a real fucking game.

Speaker 1 Strickland's defense is so fucking good. Still good.
So good. Duplicate is just wild.
Yeah, you can't touch that nose. He's reckless.
I mean, he sees him with this nose like this.

Speaker 1 A little tired. A little tired.

Speaker 1 Look at this style. But the thing is, he never stops coming at you like this.
Even though he's fucking dog-tired, he's so game.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. This is a nail biter.

Speaker 1 It's like he has these patterns that he sets up with.

Speaker 1 Oh shit.

Speaker 1 Man. Big breath by DVP.

Speaker 1 Well, Sean's nose is destroyed. Yeah.
If he touches him, they're one more time. It's fucked.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice right hand by Sean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sean, since he busted his nose, is doing way better. He kind of said, fuck it.
Now he's sitting more in the pocket. Well, he's got a real

Speaker 1 tagged him again. He's got to realize

Speaker 1 he's in trouble.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's down. This is like four rounds.
Yep. Wow.
More significant damage done, too.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 It's like that Rory McDonald knows that time.

Speaker 1 I couldn't see. Oh, the Rory McDonald's.
That flat space was vile.

Speaker 1 With Robbie Lawler. He was never really the same after that.

Speaker 1 Oh, right hand. Right hand by Trickus.
That was a big one.

Speaker 1 Can't breathe fuck this

Speaker 1 must be like just fucking

Speaker 1 RDO

Speaker 1 right hand

Speaker 1 doesn't feel like fighting punches though. Ooh Drickus is so wild.
Look at this

Speaker 1 Just exploding man the guy's got such fucking cardio for a guy who explodes like this.

Speaker 1 It's so impressive that he can hold up this pace deep into the fourth.

Speaker 1 Because he always looks like he's

Speaker 1 at the brink of slowing down. And it never happens.

Speaker 1 Oh my goodness. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Man, dude.

Speaker 1 40 more seconds of this. Oh, right hand.
He's rolling with it, but still.

Speaker 1 God, Drickus is just swinging for the fences with every punch.

Speaker 1 Feel like ever since Strickland's hurt his nose is getting a little sloppy He's trying to zero in. Well, he just can't get hit there again, you know, I mean, it's destroyed

Speaker 1 And he really hasn't been able to hurt him. He hasn't done one thing that really rocked him.
There's nothing significant by Strickland

Speaker 1 But you have to that even if he does the fucking windmill on the next round. He's got to do something man.
He's got to throw some shit. He's got to stop him.
He's down four rounds.

Speaker 1 He's got to stop him. He's down four rounds.
Look at his nose. Oh, my God.
Look at his nose, dude. It's shattered.
That's what he tried to do. You saw him trying to push it back into place.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It's shattered.
That's rough, man. Fuck.
Dude.

Speaker 1 You can't fucking just stand there and take him off. You've got to intercept his combination.
It's got to be an elbow. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 It's crazy that he had to touch it. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I think he said he reset it. Yeah, he goes, I said it.
I said it. Yeah, but that's how crazy that punch was.

Speaker 1 Got to take chances. Fucking hell.

Speaker 1 Push that.

Speaker 1 Push that.

Speaker 1 All of nothing. Go out on your shield.
That's that's the only thing you can tell him. Listen, I know this is a 220-pound South African world-class fighter.
Take chances, get crazy. Yeah.
Get crazy.

Speaker 1 Good luck. Oh, hey, before you go out there, you got a broken nose.
Have fun.

Speaker 1 He reset it. He's probably had his nose broken in many fights.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He keeps touching it, though, which is not good. It might be like moving around.
He might feel the bones moving around.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I'm DDP.
I'm shooting some takedowns here.

Speaker 1 That's exhausting, too, and he can't hold him down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 True. You know, he might say, fuck it.
This is working.

Speaker 1 Sean's got to really hit the gas. He's got to really

Speaker 1 let everything out of here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got to push. Bro, even if the wide punch is just throw, but he's so responsible defensively.
It's hard for him to just enter when he knows he's open.

Speaker 1 I know the fan base is going to hate on DDP because they're going to say it's not exciting. Dude, he's dominated.
Oh, this is exciting as fuck. It's been a one-side show.
This is exciting as fuck.

Speaker 1 The fans that don't like this are not fans. They're just people who want blood.

Speaker 1 Technical. Yeah, it's a good fight, man.
It's like his strategy is so smart. He chops at the legs constantly.
He constantly has the off balance, switch kick to the body and then to the head.

Speaker 1 He's landed the bigger shots for sure. There's another one.
The bigger shots. He's kept pressing the action.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's not letting Sean set up. Like Sean always wants to move forward and set up, and he's just constantly chop at the leg.
Do we know the Sean Shots, Kate side?

Speaker 1 I'm sure he'd jump in the ring. Because that's next for sure.
Yeah, that's next. Yeah, that's next.

Speaker 1 Another spin. Two spins in a row.
I'm really excited. Oh, the comms on.
That'd be wild, man.

Speaker 1 He's not changing the way he fucking fights. No.
And, I mean, Kendricka stopped that takedown. Can Hamza

Speaker 1 fuck around the third, fourth, fifth round? Right. Because this guy killed him.

Speaker 1 This guy's so fucking game. I mean, he's always there in the fight.
I was impressed with Whitaker keeping his calm until he got his face crushed.

Speaker 1 I'm like, look, he's keeping his calm. And then he has his whole teeth broken.
Yeah, it's rough, man. Apparently, he had a weak jaw anyway, like that area.
He'd broken it a few times. I guess.

Speaker 1 No, I thought it was an injury. He wasn't fucked up.
Oh, really? Yeah. He was born? Yeah, he's born.
Something with his bottom teeth. So he's had a few of them replaced before.

Speaker 1 Hopefully they did a good job this time. He's got a new grill now.
Screwed him in deep.

Speaker 1 All right, Sean does not have much here. He's not showing anything that could end the fight.
I mean, he's really got to open up, but he doesn't want to get KO. He's stuck with that broken nose.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is how he fights, right he fights responsible he's not gonna like go reckless now it's just not in his no his whole dna oh oh tried for a guillotine imagine he got a fucking guillotine that'd be hilarious that would be good

Speaker 1 in his dna

Speaker 1 sean's got an underrated ground game is he a black i don't think he's a black he's a black ball yes yes he is from who i don't know

Speaker 1 man it's just this is the way it's gonna go though yeah yeah you know you gotta realize you're

Speaker 1 Also, it's like this is the last round, 2.15 to go, and this has been most of the fight like this.

Speaker 1 That's it. Just make a decision.
Just throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you can't wait because you want to try to take this guy out.
Like, you got to get this go. But the thing is, like,

Speaker 1 you just hit him again on that nose. I know, and he's feeling it, man.
Yeah. This guy sucks.
Oh, it sucks. Look, he hit it again.
It's fucking pouring blood.

Speaker 1 And now he's only breathing out of his mouth, so he's got his mouth open.

Speaker 1 It affects your cardio like a motherfucker. Oh, took that kick kick to the body.
That was a hard kick.

Speaker 1 Drakis is just on him, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well.

Speaker 1 Crazy fight. Yep.
Kick to the body again.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as Strom wants to get something going, out of range, reset.

Speaker 1 Now it's like you're already like fucked up, so you might as well just fucking just throw. Yeah, yeah, but it's like it's so hard for him to just open up and put himself in danger.

Speaker 1 It's not in his nature. And he's got a fucked up nose.
Yeah, listen, it's always easier when I said I get it. No, it's way easier when you're fighting.
Yeah. You're wrong.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you got a minute left though to make something happen. Yeah, you gotta go.
You know, or else we're all fucked up.

Speaker 1 Like if this was flipped and you tell DDP, hey, you gotta get him out of there, he's coming out like a fucking South African great white, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 because that's in his nature you gotta throw caution to the wind now man to get your nature or not

Speaker 1 40 seconds

Speaker 1 oh another kick to just outclass strickland

Speaker 1 I mean Strickland needs something real big

Speaker 1 30 seconds to go dude this fight's over unless Francis oh right hand nice unless he tags in Francis and God oh jack 10 seconds left even then even then oh no Francis I would have loved to have seen Alex at middleweight against DDP.

Speaker 1 That was 205.

Speaker 1 So he would have fight Hamzat, then he had Alex at 205. That's the five.

Speaker 1 And then DDP's... DDP's not become a superstar off this fight, but he beats Hamzat.
Now we're cooking with gas.

Speaker 1 That was an ass weapon.

Speaker 1 A technical ass weapon. I wonder if there's more to it.
I wonder if there was something up with him.

Speaker 1 It didn't look like the normal Strickland, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but DDP fought real well, man.
Yeah, I'm not taking it away. Wait, but Strickland didn't have that gas he usually has.

Speaker 1 Well, he might have had staff. Something.
He might have had staff. Yeah, we never know.
You know, but

Speaker 1 you're wrong at that one. I was wrong on that one.
Rough night for American. Smart Monday was on DDP, but I have to go with Sean.
Is it Comzotte versus Jacobs next? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because Evie in the press conference, DDP goes, I wish I was fighting Hamzat this weekend, but this will do. Did we ever see him fight a really good grappler?

Speaker 1 Coms out? No, not Comzot. Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 No, DDDP. No, we haven't seen DDP fight anybody that level.
But Hamzat's the highest level in the sport. But even wrestlers, I don't remember seeing him.

Speaker 1 Who's he for that's really looking to put him down? We've never seen him off his back.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 It was that big right hand that changed everything. There's a nice elbow, a spinning elbow.
This one right here. Boom.
That was the fuck. That one.
That was the game changer. I mean, that.

Speaker 1 Look at his eyes. That changed the whole fight.
Rolled his head back somewhere. Trickler was never the same as that, bro.
That's fucking rough, man.

Speaker 1 Such a smart strategy, Matt. There's that high kick to the face.

Speaker 1 But he's still very good at taking, you know, getting hit with the ball. And he gave him a lot to look at, though.
What are you saying? He didn't take as much damage, but that nose.

Speaker 1 Hey, look at his fucking face. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one. You mean Sean didn't take as much damage? No, he took damage.
He got hit more in this fight than I think any fight.

Speaker 1 Other than Ferrero.

Speaker 1 He's still able to kind of like...

Speaker 1 It was one big punch that fucked things up. You're like Chris.
He got beat up. You're like Brian is nose-shattered.

Speaker 1 He got beat up. One good shot to his face, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. I'll tell you, Drake looks great.

Speaker 1 What kind of a...

Speaker 1 That's an operation, right? I mean, he's got to now get it all fucking set. Yeah, clear, unanimous decision.
So they probably gave Strickland the fourth round.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
Drake is too pussy, ladies and gentlemen. He's a problem.
He's wise. He's a tough puzzle to figure out.
He's a tough puzzle.

Speaker 1 He's a tough puzzle to figure out.

Speaker 1 Very tough fight to figure out.

Speaker 1 Big fucker for 185, too. That's a big fucker.
I want to see that fight, though.

Speaker 1 Man, you did a fucking great job of setting up, throwing that low kick, switch kick to the body, kept that pace up for the entire five.

Speaker 1 We loved another round, but that's not the game. I thought you were on audition to the best.
Crank that shit up.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna hear what he says.

Speaker 1 That's what I gave. I gave him my oil.
I'm sorry I couldn't get him out of here, but I hope you guys enjoyed it. I hope you had to be a bit smarter about it.
Thank you, Sydney, for showing me love.

Speaker 1 I know you guys broke me, but the earth is at the end of a fight, he's absolutely well. Sean is an absolute animal and he's deserving of all the hugs.
Thank you, Sydney. You are incredible.

Speaker 1 He's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 Classy. He's a class actor.
Classy. Class actor.
Wrestling allowed for you to win the fight. You said you would not force a takedown.
You got one this fight. You won this fight strike.

Speaker 1 Did you know that you'd be able to do that, being that Sean Strickland is such a talent strike?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was my game plan. I said, when he made the fact about

Speaker 1 striking,

Speaker 1 I knew

Speaker 1 that there's a chance he's going to try and wrestle me, but obviously the man doesn't defend the warby. He was just straight about it.
He wants to stand in bank. And I was willing to give that.

Speaker 1 I tried to force him to make it a wrestling fight and then I can engage. I got that takedown.
I didn't plan it, but it was there. I took it.
And

Speaker 1 since I made the Achilles quote of making facts, I said, There are no facts between lions and men. This is another one from Achilles.

Speaker 1 And since he's standing across the axon, the octagon, is there no one else?

Speaker 1 Is there no one else? Cutting my arms up.

Speaker 1 You're talking to a Lex Ferrera.

Speaker 1 Oh, ooh.

Speaker 1 That's going to be a different game.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's a night night when you're in touch game. Yeah, it's a very different game.

Speaker 1 You'll see us using fucking wrestling then.

Speaker 1 Probably get tased.

Speaker 1 Coach tases them. They tase him.

Speaker 1 They tase him and try when they do something wrong, they tase him. Really? Oh, yeah, he is.
Coach has one of those fucking police things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 He just said I'll probably get tased.

Speaker 1 That fight wasn't close, fellas. Nope.

Speaker 1 He keeps getting better.

Speaker 1 He's got his endurance. He can't even stop talking.
Look at this guy.

Speaker 1 I want to hear what Sean has to say.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 1 I hope he doesn't bring up the staff.

Speaker 1 You can't, right? You can't talk about that. I hate when it's too soon.
I hate when fighters do. That's when they say too soon.
Yeah, talk about that tomorrow. Maybe, maybe DC asks him.

Speaker 1 I would definitely ask him.

Speaker 1 Was that staff? Were you on antibiotics? That would have been probably my first questions.

Speaker 1 If you ask it, it's fine. He's like, yeah.
I would have said was there anything surprising? But I don't deal with staff, but that's not the reason I lost.

Speaker 1 Right, my credit to DDP. Right.
Let the feds talk for it. But is that staff?

Speaker 1 Hey, I fucking love you guys, man.

Speaker 1 I broke, my mouthfucker broke my nose. I was like, oh, that doesn't fucking feel right.
Popped it back in place. I kept buying it for you.
The Dutch man is a bad motherfucker.

Speaker 1 He kicked my ass very square. Drops a hip.
Thank you, Microphone. DC, I'm leaving.
But

Speaker 1 Good night, fellas. Good night.

Speaker 1 It's a good night. I had a good time.
Well, let's start. Are you going to teach a jiu-jitsu class now, or are we going to wait a little bit? I do.
You showed it. I need to stretch a little bit.

Speaker 1 Oh, Brian.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Good times.
That was good times.

Speaker 1 Thanks for having me. Did you feel

Speaker 1 a little down when Sean got beat up?

Speaker 1 Everybody here was kind of competitive. I thought it'd be more competitive.
Very impressive.

Speaker 1 He's not going to beat that guy. Jimmy Norton beat me in the picks, a little fucker.
Did he? I think he picked both.

Speaker 1 But you know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 I thought Robert Whitaker was going to give him problems with that style. I really did.
I thought Robert Whitaker, with his leaping in style, and he's like very light on his feet, fast as shit.

Speaker 1 I thought he was going to give him problems, and DDP shut that shit down and then

Speaker 1 caught him with that right hook.

Speaker 1 See, I would give DDP the advantage over Hamza right now. I'd have to bet on it.
It's hard to say.

Speaker 1 We don't know what happened to somebody. It's some of these question marks.
We don't know. Hamza just shoots from like 15 feet away and gets a hold of your legs.
But I look at the Kamaro Usman.

Speaker 1 He didn't do that to Kamara Usman. He didn't do it to Gilbert Burns.
We go in the third, fourth, and fifth. He gave Usman for the first three rounds on Nightmare.
He was pretty good.

Speaker 1 And he kissed Talmud. But he couldn't finish him.
That's an older.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's not a vintage Usman.
Who was in their prime? He was taping down decisively. Who was Hamzat supposed to fight? That was a last-minute replacement.
It was Usman. Who was Hamzat?

Speaker 1 And then he put in

Speaker 1 Kevin Holland. That would have been hard.
That would have been bad. That would have been hard.
BFC was like, we're getting backlash. That would have been bad.
We're getting some backlash here.

Speaker 1 Kevin, you're down? He's like, I guess. That would have been crazy.

Speaker 1 Styles make fights, and you've never seen Drake's fight. of a good wrestler and comzots one of the best.

Speaker 1 And you got to think his endurance is probably going to be better at 85 than it was at 70 because of the cut for Hamzat. It's like 85 is really where he should have been all along.

Speaker 1 But again, he gassed out against Usman. That was 85.
Usman went up to 85. Usman's a world champion.

Speaker 1 In the third round, Usman did what a world champion does. He rallied.
And then Usman's fucking dangerous standing up. The world champion.
He's a good shot.

Speaker 1 Yep. And he's bigger.

Speaker 1 Well, you look at Gilbert, too.

Speaker 1 Gilbert weathered the storm, and then he gave him hell off. Staying away confirms.
Hamzat Shamai was next.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 before the fight, though. I wonder where that is.

Speaker 1 That's got to be Vegas, right?

Speaker 1 Hamzai? No, that's going to be in Saudi Arabia. You think so? I think he's got a UAE passport now.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe America.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he gets to America now.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not like

Speaker 1 Shara Bullet, probably never going to fight in America. He can't let a one-eyed fighter.

Speaker 1 He can't have one-eyed campaign. Apparently, the UAE is having a problem with it, too.
Yeah, it would be cool, man. United Arab Emirates? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, when he fights in Abu Dhabi, they're like, hey, you only got one eye. This is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 But they still let him do it. They let him do it in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. He's the captain now.
Dude, very curious. I like that guy.
Bro, Tom's outfit. What a fight they can make.
Puzzle MVP is. What a puzzle.
I mean,

Speaker 1 Sharon Bullet just couldn't do nothing to him. But even on the feed, Ian Gary was getting lit up too.
Yeah, Ian Gary had to wrestle. He just had to wrestle.

Speaker 1 Ian Gary impressed me even with his loss with

Speaker 1 Shavkat. Oh, yeah.
He was the closest to ending it. Great yellow.
And he's well-rounded. Great fight.
Oh, he got to be a champion.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he is champion.
And you need a fight like that. A super close fight.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you know the biggest disappointment this year? The arm on Suroki and pulling out the day of the fight.

Speaker 1 What the fuck happened, man? Backseason issue.

Speaker 1 Weight cut. I mean, you got to think.

Speaker 1 I think weight cut. How much is that guy cutting to get to 55? And how juicy was.
I mean, I'm saying he's on PDs.

Speaker 1 I'm saying juicy, like how much muscle he puts on. A lot.
And then he cut all that weight. He's 5'7, though, right? He's really short.
He's probably 5'8, and he probably walks around 190. Jacked.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's thick. You see him off-season, he's fucking thick.
And you're not getting that fight. Dato's like, he's back in the line now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no way it's fine. He cut that back issue.
You think it's a weight issue? Yeah, I think he said something is a way of doing it.

Speaker 1 Number one, lightweight Armand Suker and Michael Chandler are negotiating for a fight at Miami. Oh, shit.
It's a tough fight for Chandler. He resumed training.

Speaker 1 He's nearly 100% after back injury, forced him out of the fight. I think it's just the weight.
I think you cut that much weight, your muscles just cramped the fuck up. And he couldn't move.

Speaker 1 That's what was happening in Khabib. Remember, he missed a lot.

Speaker 1 Tony Ferguson kept getting fucked up with his kidneys and all the weight cut. Just think about how much weight that is that you're draining out of your body.

Speaker 1 Like, Sarukian's probably getting at least 25

Speaker 1 jugs of water out of his body. 25 one-pound jugs of water.
He's not a fat big guy. Yeah, think about like a 16-ounce, like a Pepsi.
He's getting 25 of those out of his muscles. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's what he looks around.

Speaker 1 I think he's got to be 180. He looks big, man.
He's so. And do you see how fucking mobile that guy is when he's doing all his different

Speaker 1 mobility exercises and shit? He's so flexible.

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think it's all the weight. I think it's a weight cut issue.
Yeah. 155 was hard for me to get to, too.
It was fucking. Isn't it the worst part of the sport?

Speaker 1 Is the weight cut that they do that 24 hours before a cage fight? It's so crazy. Oh, shit, man.
Well, now there's guys

Speaker 1 fucking at 170 that are like 6'5 ⁇ , I would have been really up to date. They would have been holding my head.

Speaker 1 Who's that guy that Joachim Buckley beat?

Speaker 1 He had to take him down.

Speaker 1 He was beating him up on top. Big, fucking tall dude who was.
Huge. Yeah.
It was a dangerous fight for Joachim at 170. He guy's big for 170, like real tall.
Super tall. He looked awkward.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tall and long. I didn't know they had a mouthpiece.
That guy. Risboyo.
Oh, yeah, that's right. That guy's good, dude.
I'm telling you, Buckley at one of them. 6'5.

Speaker 1 175. 6'5'170.
No, I had to belt it that way. I'm 5'6.
What would that look like? Buckley's probably 5'10. That's crazy.
Isn't that crazy? 6'5, dude.

Speaker 1 6'5'5', man. What are you doing? Good 85.
Flip it around. It's my bad.
Big head.

Speaker 1 Buckley did a fucking amazing job in that fight. How did he lose that fight? Was it a decision? Or did he

Speaker 1 do

Speaker 1 ever? Decision Unanimous. Find out why Zabit just stopped fighting.
He was so good. Yeah, I don't know, man.
He was so good. God, he was good.
He looked like a world champion.

Speaker 1 But he became a doctor or something, right? Maybe he decided, fuck it. I think he did become a doctor.
Is he a doctor? Is he a nurse? Is he like a gay Lord Falker? Hey. I think he said doctor.

Speaker 1 I think he's a nurse. He said he's a drink.
Saddie transfer.

Speaker 1 Nurse have to go through some

Speaker 1 real doctor. Did he fight at 45? He was like 6'2 or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was tall as fuck. Fuck Henry says he's the best fight he's ever seen.
Yeah, he said he's 100% world training. He was fighting.
He was like, he's wild. He was fucked up.

Speaker 1 He had a good sparring with Henzo. With fucking Al Joe at Longo's, really.
Yeah. And he throws wild.

Speaker 1 That guy was good. He had it all.
Wrestling and striking, everything, man. Yeah, everything.

Speaker 1 Super technical. Yeah.
Yeah. Now he's stuck in Zabit.
Oh, Dr. Zabit.
Maybe he just decided this is not for me. Fuck it.
You know? Well, he's going to be a smart guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's other options. Yeah.
I mean, how does it end? Also, if you're a doctor, you really know what's going on with your brain. Correct.
And you keep sparring. I kept thinking about that.

Speaker 1 The more we learn.

Speaker 1 I keep looking at that shit. And the the more we learn, I'm just like,

Speaker 1 five years from now, when you have some kind of an AI mouthpiece, and they're just able to fucking correlate how much damage you do. When is the comeback? Zabi.
Oh,

Speaker 1 no. No training footage.
No, he just stays in shape. Really? Are you sure? Yeah.
Break silence with a depressive training clip.

Speaker 1 Let's see what his training clip looks like. Let's see.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Throwing a lot of kicks. It could just be just being in shape, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably, but he's crazy. Who knows?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe he's fucking.
It looks like he's fucking training again. He does.
Look at it.

Speaker 1 Man, I hope he comes back.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 he was wild to watch. Yep.
He was wild. Did he ever lose? Not in the UFC.
I don't know if he had any defeats in his career. Amazing.
Did Zavid have any defeats in his career, young Jamie? Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Look at Dean Thomas with the plaid shirt on. Oh, dude, every time you look, you see Dean Thomas everywhere.
He's great.

Speaker 1 He's got the sharpest clothes when he's at the UFC. Sometimes we have to to comment.

Speaker 1 He loves to be busy, that guy. What did it beat?

Speaker 1 Yeah, early in his career on the FCA. Oh, early in his career.
But he kind of went out on top. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, who knows?

Speaker 1 He might not stop. Yeah.
He's supposed to be. It was him and Tatya Lasuera.
He's supposed to be the one F. 2019 was his last fight.
That's crazy. That's six years ago.
That's a long time ago.

Speaker 1 That's six fucking years ago. He's not coming back.
If he did, it wouldn't be good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 At what point in time do you say Connor's never coming coming back? Is it now? Right now, yeah. You see him like that.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's got more money than God.

Speaker 1 He loves the attention. So, I mean,

Speaker 1 but are you going to go through a camp and go fight in the fucking cage just for attention? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's going on with that left leg?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I mean, Chris fought again. He did.
Yeah. He did.
I mean,

Speaker 1 late in his career, too. Late in his career.
I don't think anybody's ever come back from that injury.

Speaker 1 He looks healthy, though. I mean, Connor.
I mean, he looks healthy. He just looks like he's out of his fucking mind.
I'm just saying that injury is really.

Speaker 1 I don't know if anybody's ever come back and been the same. I think Connor would fight if he wasn't getting the attention from BKFC and doing all that wild shit.

Speaker 1 There's a PFL heavyweight that snapped his shin and came back and fought well.

Speaker 1 But he did it when he was younger. Yeah.
I've seen that before it was in MMA. I've seen it in kickboxing, and it always just made me like, oh, it's the worst.

Speaker 1 You ever see

Speaker 1 Gokan Saki and Tyrone Spong? That one? Whoa. I'm going to say yes because you want to show it.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Tyrone Spong just hit him right below the knee and it just snapped like a twig, just like Chris. Dude, that's just like Anderson.
I remember Longo telling me, he goes, Oh, look at Sean's nose.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. Longo is telling me that he was, oh, Chris was killing the pads in the back before they went out.
He's like, he was legs. He's a hard kick, Chris.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, the sound that I was saying,

Speaker 1 my friend was at

Speaker 1 fucking LAX, and a woman with her husband stepped off and a fucking giant

Speaker 1 fucking truck, one of those

Speaker 1 Uber

Speaker 1 Escalade ran over her foot, right? Now, watch, it got, she was a little heavy, so it hit her, and she went like that, and it got her.

Speaker 1 So, my buddy, strong guy, picked her up, and he goes, Brian, I go, what? He goes, her foot came off. I go, what? He goes, her foot came off.
I go, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 So she fainted in his arms, and her foot was there. So he picked her fucking foot up.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And he said, he he put it in her lap.

Speaker 1 And he goes, he goes, you're going to be okay. You're going to be talking to him the whole time.
The guy turned out to be really wealthy. And my friend thought he was going to.

Speaker 1 They took him to the hospital and all that. And I guess they saved her foot.
Apparently, they saved her on. They sewed it back on? I guess.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Because he kept in touch with them. And he said her foot.

Speaker 1 I guess they can't be normal. What would have happened to that guy to get his dick off? What about the nerves? Lorena Bobby.
She's kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 She didn't use her foot a lot. What would have happened to that? Did that guy ever get his dick going in? They found it.
That guy started doing porn. I heard.
Frankie meeting or something, right?

Speaker 1 They So did he? But that is the fucking craziest thing. Imagine that.

Speaker 1 Usually you'd be the skin would be hanging off. He goes, her foot

Speaker 1 was off.

Speaker 1 She had a long dress on, I guess. She was a big girl.
Yeah, big girl. She had a tank.

Speaker 1 But her foot fucking came off. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It was like it was on the ground.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Is Dean Thomas wearing makeup? No.
They just had a close-up a little bit on you. Look at Gilbert.
Yeah, he looks like a Gilbert. Yeah, it is Gilbert.

Speaker 1 They always force you to wear that makeup. I don't wear shit.
They always try to beat me with that makeup. They don't want you to be oily, that's why.
So what? I know.

Speaker 1 To me, it was always so offensive to wear makeup while a dude's whole faces are hanging off. Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1 Imagine if you're stepping in there and Irene Aldana. Remember that fight? In the sphere where it was like a hatchet wound? Imagine if I had makeup on and I was interviewing her.

Speaker 1 You want to even touch me up? I was like,

Speaker 1 I've never seen a head like that. Irene Aldana? No, you're thinking of Ioanna.
Oh, geez.

Speaker 1 I've never seen that. That's crazy.
I felt that she was trying to cover it with a towel and stuff.

Speaker 1 Joe's like, no, you look fine. She's such a great fighter.
mother.

Speaker 1 She was shit. In her prime, she was a monster.
Oh, my God. She was a monster.
That fucking division, man. That 115-pound women's division.
Woo, there's some banger fights in that division.

Speaker 1 Maybe the best division in the sport for women. Yeah.
You know, in terms of like wild fights,

Speaker 1 not a lot. Not much competes with that.

Speaker 1 What made you bring up Fiona Davis, by the way? You just watched that the other day? Yeah. Well, my friend Jake was talking to me about it, and then I watched it.

Speaker 1 He said, dude, she just ran over McKenzie Durn. I was like, really? I'm like, that's impressive.
And then I watched it last night on YouTube. Oh, Jiu-Jitsu's good.
I had it down.

Speaker 1 She did a seminar at my place, too. How about that hip toss, too? Oh, it's beautiful.
Oh, my God. She has judo background, right? She's starting to do it.
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 She has a judo background, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's, you know, I think McKenzie's so good in jiu-jitsu that she thinks she could, not thinks, but she's good at squirming out of stuff and everything. But

Speaker 1 she had that fucking, she locked her up tight. And that top pressure was nasty.
Ooh, so technical. So good.
She's got a very good jiu-jitsu background.

Speaker 1 It's like jiu-jitsu, like, as just a sport, as you know, like you look at the highest of highest-level guys right now. It's so exciting.

Speaker 1 And now that, like, CGI, like Craig Jones' Invitational, is given on a million bucks. The Trutolo twins are on the match.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. They're so good.

Speaker 1 That's one thing I really like about 1 FC. You know, they had all those just straight-up grappling matches.
Like, Mikey Mutton.

Speaker 1 Remember, Mikey Mutton actually taped that dude's, ripped that dude's knee apart, and would he tap?

Speaker 1 Remember that dude? He just kept ripping it apart. And you know, his his knee's gone.
It's gone. And he won't tap, and it's just rip, crack, pop.
And Mikey was like, it was disgusting.

Speaker 1 Like, why'd you make me do that to you? Now, Mike, you signed with the UFC, right? Yep.

Speaker 1 Not for fighting, for no, just for fight pass, those fight pass invitational, which is great that they're doing that. It's great.
His guard is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. Mikey.

Speaker 1 I've never seen it in life. It's so funny.
I mean, there's so many tournaments now more than ever, but I still enjoy watching it used in MMA more than anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck it. Oh, yeah.
I love.

Speaker 1 I mean, a Damian Meyer versus Ben Ashkern fight. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Jake Shields versus Steven Johnson. You know one of the biggest travesties of all time was that? When they took Damian Meyer off of Kamarl Usman's back.
Oh, 100%. 100%.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that arm was just stopping him from taking a full. And he can't hold that forever.
He can't hold that forever. They separated that.
I mean, stink about that. It was infuriating.

Speaker 1 He could have been a champion. He was so

Speaker 1 had Kamaro Usman. He had that left hook over the top early on the fight, dry, and he's basically taking his back.
And Kamaro's in deep water.

Speaker 1 And Kamaro's only loss up until that point was his first fight Root Nick a Choke. Fuck.
And it was climbing the round and everything.

Speaker 1 And it's Damien Maya, who's like one of the greatest stranglers of all time.

Speaker 1 He was one of the greatest stranglers of all time. I mean, just phenomenal jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 His fight versus Ben Askaram was fun because it was both, it was almost like a throwback where one guy's using more, because standing up they both kind of nullified they both didn't do too much but one guy is using uh ashikarami sweeps uma plata reversals pure jiu-jitsu and then you got bed asking using all his these doing the big takedowns so it was it was just such a style versus style type fight you know great it gives you an idea it gives you an

Speaker 1 appreciation for how good gordon ryan is like all these amazing guys

Speaker 1 so like what are the big fights that are coming up next like what do we got alex so we don't know what's going to happen at lightweight now. I hope, as crazy as it sounds, I hope Ilya goes up to 55.

Speaker 1 I really do. To fight Machev.
Volkanovsky, Diego Lopez, 45. I'll take that.
Ilya goes up to 55. Fuck.
I don't care if he only defended the title one time or didn't. Agree.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 You want Ilya to fight Makachev? Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking go. Face a couple of those guys first, like you just said.
Yeah, it'd be nice, but also, who cares? Let's go. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 If you want to make the big fight for July, you want to make that big fight in july is it the volkanovsky rematch i don't know i think volkanovsky people want to probably see him win one where he gets ko'd by islam in the first fight he gets ko'd by islam in the second fight yeah i don't see him fight to appear you want to see him you want to see him fight

Speaker 1 you know well he gets excuse me he gets beaten by islam in the first fight he gets ko'd in the second fight and then he gets ko'd by ilya so two ko losses in a row in one decision kind of as even though he's a legend you kind of want to see him beat a content

Speaker 1 Maybe. And Dio.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't hate a rematch. No, I wouldn't hate a rematch.

Speaker 1 It's like must-see TV. No one's asking for it.
It's one of those ones where I hope Alex is 100% and I want to see it.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't have fought him that quickly after getting KO'd by Islam. Terrible idea.
Three months, four months later,

Speaker 1 and so he took a shot. So if you want to do a big July card, you would do, you could do that, Makachev, Tolkien.
Hamzat versus Drake. Hamzat, DDP, John Jones, and

Speaker 1 the greatest card of Christ. That'd be so sick.
That'd be the greatest card of all time. Fuck.
Imagine Drickus. Two guys go up.
Drickus goes up. Ilya goes up.

Speaker 1 Drickus versus. But then again, look, Ankolio is tough, man.

Speaker 1 That ain't a gimme. That ain't a gimme.
That's a tough fight. Super tough.
I mean, Ankoliov's wrestling is going to be a problem for Alex.

Speaker 1 He's not really a wrestler. He's not really a wrestler.
He's more of a striker.

Speaker 1 And he said he's going to knock him out standing.

Speaker 1 That's what he says.

Speaker 1 Until he feels that fucking. Oh, look at that.
110, 110. Even fight.
Dan Hooker, Justin Cage is going to be wild. That is going to be.
Woo! What is this? What Daisy's is March? Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 March. Let me see what else is on that card.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Mauricio Rufi and King Green.

Speaker 1 Bro, Rufy's nasty.

Speaker 1 That guy's good. Ruffy is nasty.
He's fucking good, man. That's a great fight.
That's a great fucking fight. Nice.
I like it. And that's another one that just falls short.
Is that Alex Moreno?

Speaker 1 He's fucking good, man. He's fucking good.

Speaker 1 Sometimes he gets a couple of stumbles. But another guy that's, he reminds me of Matthews a little bit where he's got the really good stand-up.
And he's got, I like his jiu-jitsu a lot too.

Speaker 1 Some good fight nights. Cannonier and Rodriguez.
That's a good fight. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Bro, Cejudo and Song Yadong is a tough fight for Cejudo. Song Yadong is fucking dangerous, man.

Speaker 1 He's Al Capes fight.

Speaker 1 I thought that guy was good.

Speaker 1 When is that? He was, but he can't. He wants to come back.
He can't.

Speaker 1 He's got to go.

Speaker 1 That fucking juice. Oh, that is real soon.

Speaker 1 Brendan Allen. Oh, that's a good guy.

Speaker 1 Dominic Cruz is nasty. He's retired.
Yeah, he's shit. He ripped his shoulder apart.
Poor Curtis Blades. Oh, that sucks for Dominic.
He always had some problems, but health is getting

Speaker 1 Barbosa's still fighting. Still fighting.
Yeah, man. He's fucking still good, too.
That's just crazy.

Speaker 1 How about Ricky Simone still in the heat?

Speaker 1 All right. Let's wrap this up.
Bringing home.

Speaker 1 Matt Sarah, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks, man.

Speaker 1 I appreciate the invite, man. Always be a good man.
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