#2226 - Theo Von

these are like conversation condoms aren't they yeah a little bit well it's like a safe room blocks out the world yeah conversation only exists inside your ears you know locks you in I think it locks you in.

That's what I like about it.

Yeah, it's almost like a... Blocks out the world.
Yeah. Conversation only exists inside your ears.
You know?

Locks you in.

I think it locks you in.

Yeah.

That's what I like about it.

Yeah, it's almost like a football player kind of putting on their helmet.

Right.

Ready to go.

Ready to go.

You're like, we're ready for this.

Yeah.

Yo, how fun was election night at the mothership?

It was baffling, man.

I mean, here, I'll tell you.

It was crazy.

It was so much fun.

We had such a good time.

That green room was so positive.

My favorite part, at one point, they were playing that song, you talk about a revolution. And people were dancing, people were smoking weed.
There was a, I think there was a baby smoking weed. People, there was, everybody was like, people were like, it was crazy, dude.
adam and eve were in there there was just a lot going on it felt like america's brighter that's what it felt like we were we were moving towards this insane world where we're being controlled by liars we're just being gas lit left and right we saw it all over the media we saw it over the news. Things that were right in front of your face, they're trying to deny.
There's just so much craziness. And then all of a sudden, the world spoke.
Did you see the map of the actual country? Like how many places actually voted red? Oh, no. I don't know if I saw that or not.

It's just a few cities.

Even California was mostly red.

That's what's crazy.

We had... I don't know if I saw that.

I'm trying to think of what I saw.

There's a...

Oh, Tony was nervous, remember?

Remember that?

Tony better be fucking nervous. Dude, I kept just going up to him and going Feliz Navidad.
I can get his vibes. Look at that.
Oh, wow. This is the one I saw Jamie else on this to you.
It's got music to it. This was like when I got that hair surgery.
What am I talking about?

They played music in the background?

No, but it looks like that pattern.

Let me see that again.

Yeah, it looks a lot like that, like a transplant.

Yeah, micrographs.

Yeah, that's what it looks like, man.

So what I sent you, Jamie, it just shows, like, the entire country.

Did I show you? Look at that. Oh, that's interesting.
That's crazy. There's no blue states, just blue cities.
Well, then why do you think the cities and states are so much different then? Well, cities are always going to be blue. It's normal.
There's a lot of factors. One of them is you have massive populations of people, right? And when you have massive populations of people, a lot of times it's based around universities.
Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it's like more around Hollywood, which is equally delusional. But most big cities are flavored by a university.
Like Austin is flavored by the University of Texas. Yeah.
It's why Austin is progressive. Austin is, for people that don't know outside of Texas, Austin is one of the most progressive cities.
Like if you look at, we voted in Austin, the city of Austin

voted more for Kamala Harris than the city

of Los Angeles did. Oh, wow,

really? Yeah, higher percentage of Democrats

voted for Kamala Harris than

even Los Angeles.

Well, I think a lot, it seems like a lot,

like, a lot of Democrats,

I don't know, like, a ton about politics, but it seems

like a lot of Democrats, like,

it's, I understand a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting.

It's like wishful thinking.

Well, they're they're feeding off of narratives like you're a good person if you believe this.

But the consequences are what they're ignoring.

The pretending that the economy is in a great place.

That's crazy.

Talk to anybody who's broke. Talk to anybody who's struggling to pay for bills and groceries.
Talk to anybody who's trying to buy a car. The economy's bananas right now.
It's sketchy, very sketchy. And a lot of it is- People are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace.
A lot of it is recovering from COVID, I'm sure. A lot of, I mean, there's probably a lot of blowback from that.
I mean, they shut the whole fucking country down, fucking country down which is just so nuts that was insane man i think that's one of the like but yeah i mean yeah people are robbing each other on facebook marketplace my buddy was going to buy a couple walkie-talkies off a guy right gets fucking mugged right really yeah he's going to buy a couple of um so he meets the guy to go get the walkie-talkies and the guy mugs him that's like the seventh story i've heard but heard, but it's like, you know, people are doing crime, you know, people are resorting to crime. And that's when it's not good, I feel like.
Well, not just that. When people are resorting to crime.
This administration did that I think is terrible, and this is a progressive liberal thing, is that you have these DAs, these George Soros-funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime and get the no-c thing and when there's no repercussions for crime guess what crime goes way the fuck up oh yeah if I'm a criminal and they're like hey it's crime time or whatever yeah I'm gonna fucking put on my cleats or whatever I'm gonna get out there you're gonna go to jail and you're just gonna get released yeah it's like catch and release it's almost like the um fishing rules or whatever like if you go trout fishing in the lake i mean a little bit you're a fly fisherman you used to be a cop now you're a fly fisherman with a pair of nikes on the hook yeah you just put them out there yeah those fishermen they use barbless hooks and then they let the fish go i went fly fishing recently yeah yeah man did you have a good time it it yeah you know what i did i i thought it was like um let me think about what i thought it was like uh it's the more sophisticated way to go fish yes it was like excuse me fish yes gentle cast yes it was like hey it also requires a lot more skill well it requires more patience for sure you can't like um like if you have a kid or whatever you can't do it like you right like if you're just fishing on the bank you can have your kid and he can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do you know but if you if you're in that you have to constantly be moving it right you know it's very kind of like um it's kind of homoerotic almost. It's like, hey, fish or whatever.
Oh, it's flailing. It's like, hey, fish.
I think so. Yeah.
Have you ever seen those guys? It's like, hey, fish, I'm over here. I'm over here, boys.
The least sophisticated form of fishing is like a bobber with a worm on it. Yeah.
That's the least. You throw it out there.
But that's some of the most fun fishing because that bobber starts moving. You're like, oh, shit.
Yeah. Oh, shit.
I think we got one. Oh, shit.
It's like jaws all of a sudden. Fishing is so exciting.
Yeah. My grandma used to take us fishing, dude.
And she was like a malignant fisherman or whatever. And she would.
Degenerate? Yeah. Like very.
She was like a staunch fisherman like taunch like we're fishing you know oh aggressive you better not fucking not fish you know she would like kind of have that kind of behavior yes she was very you better fucking fish white boy whoa you know she would kind of be like that yes very aggressive right about fishing for little kids yeah and we'd have to be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber. But she was really, she loved to fish.
Did she love to eat fish? Yep, she liked to skin them and grill them and everything. Yeah? Yeah, it was cool.
What kind of fish? Mostly catfish, bullheads. We used to fish up in like Spoon River up in like Illinois.
Did you guys use like chicken liver? Yeah. Yeah.
We would get out there, we'd have a little thermos full of chicken liver yeah you know works my grandfather would say anything and she'd fucking look at him and he wouldn't talk for a month after she was the fisherman she was the fisher woman yeah she was she loved to fish i think she liked um she liked catching her own meals even you know she didn't like to hunt but she liked to fish what's that fucking dude's name, the chubby dude that dressed up like the devil and everybody got mad? He's a singer. Sam.
What's that? Sam Smith. Sam Smith, yeah.
He said he wanted to be a fisher them. Oh, God.
Not a fisherman, a fisher her, a fisher she, a fisher them.

Yeah, that's wild. The they them thing, that's the best evidence you need that people are out of their fucking minds.
You can't be plural, you fucking idiot. Well, the only thing I think it's like, it's almost.
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The offer is for new customers only. If you're being plural, you're, uh, I don't understand it.
Like, if you're being plural, are you being, like, there's more of me kind of like that's what i understand is it like an ego trip like that's you know like um that's what i don't understand about the it's just a way to be unique and it's a way to be in a marginalized community if you're just a regular person yeah so like if you're a regular white person you're at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke people but if you're queer or non-binary now you're in a protected group my buddy's queer actually nice what does he have to do to be queer nothing he's cool he's just he doesn't yeah he didn't like send you an email update or whatever he's just did he update his twitter pronouns no he's just like a just decides he's queer. Yeah, he's like a secret not secret.
He's like All right, he's just like a or I mean what they call it I got to look at the chart. What is queer these days because when I was a kid queer was gay If someone was queer they're gay or if you got punched in the head then you're on queer street It was like everything was confusing queer was confusing.
Okay. And then queer became gay somewhere along the line.
But now I think queer is whatever you want it to be. Yeah.
You could be gay, bi, straight. And then you could be pansexual.
And what is that? Exactly. That's what Wayne Brady is.
He's pansexual? He came out. Damn.
Came out as pansexual. I don't know what that means.
I can barely handle whatever I am, dude. To be real honest, bro.
It's all so new. Whatever I am, bro, it keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women.
So, whatever that one is, that's what I am, bro. You're theosexual.
Oh, it's fucking getting kind of heady, man. You're theosexual um why are you afraid to talk to the women no i don't know you know i i uh i i think i get afraid to like i just i've always i always got afraid to approach approach women you know yeah but why you're a handsome fellow you're funny you're successful i don't know i think something i just shit.
Yeah, probably there's something you know just yeah, like I just I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy You know when I know when I was a kid I would be so nervous Hmm, I would yeah, I would be so much is interesting that you got into stand-up comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous.

So that didn't affect me.

Oh, interesting.

Because you're nervous all the time.

You're like, fuck it.

I'll just go be nervous in front of all these people.

Oh, the audience is... When you're on stage, the audience is just a woman.

Oh, like you're just trying to get them to like you.

You're just trying to get...

Yeah, you're like, how do we get this to work out, you know?

How do I get you to like me more? Who do I have to be? Dude, the other night was crazy. Sorry, I cut you off going.
No, no, go ahead. I got nothing, man.
No, the other night was crazy. This week's been crazy.
It's just been a crazy week. Yeah.
You know? It's been a crazy week, man. It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was going to happen.
So you're watching the first results roll in and there's like this weird thing and then Trump gets way ahead But you're like you don't want to like get too hopeful How far ahead he's I hit by a hundred points. That seems like a lot Yeah, and you're like what is it in some channels are like and then every channel is kind of different.
Yeah, they had different numbers I was getting a different number off my Apple news update then I was getting off of CNN. And then I was texting people like Tulsi and JD Vance.
I was getting a different update. Apparently, Elon created an app and he knew who won four hours before the results.
So as the results were coming in, four hours before they called it, Dana White told me elon was like i'm leaving it's over donald won he just fucking he just fucking somehow or another i'm gonna go back into my pod and evaporate i don't know what he's getting where he's pulling his data from but he had like the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put the results in yet but yet trump was ahead in these states combo is never going to win those states so tabulated that and like put it all together i don't know how he did it yeah dana i don't even i haven't even talked to elon about this i don't know like the dana translation but dana said he had an app and he was like showing him he's like it's over and he fucking left dude just left it's over john jones won he just fucking left dude yeah i mean the whole thing's crazy to me i'm so happy for uh my biggest thing was i was so happy for bobby kennedy man yeah because he's the only person that i super know like as a human you know um he's been a buddy of mine for years and i've just known that he's a like i trust him like you it's almost like if you have people that you know and that are good people it's like yeah i have to trust my own instincts at some point and know i know him right you know he's a he's a somebody i would vouch for right you know he's a good guy and he's been helpful to me like in in moments um where i have had struggled as a person and just uh been inspirational to me you know it's like i know him you know like a friend and so so that's i think like that was something i was like super excited about just to see where everybody was like screw this guy you know and to see him have a arc where it's like um because all he ever cared about um to me and i don't know this is just my opinions dude some people everybody has their own opinions and i'm an idiot but but he he always cared about like um the rivers and the environment you know and then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies right so for me that all makes sense right and so like we know where it all happened from right i was super like that was i was super excited about you know how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs he would give these speeches and he um he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers they cleaned up the east river he was an environmental attorney and um they were also talking about the effects of mercury poisoning in the soil and water and um these women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying you need to investigate mercury and vaccines and you know he thought like that is like which most people think you hear vaccine like the last thing i want to be labeled is a vaccine skeptic jesus christ a vaccine denier that's like i mean we talked about this yesterday but it's like holocaust denier is number one but vaccine denier and election denier are like right under there yeah and he started looking into it particularly the mmr vaccines and and the correlation between the uptick of all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids. And so then he starts doing research on it.
And the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated. And most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration, they gave them immunity to prosecution.
So they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines caused. Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Yeah, and then, of course, these motherfuckers started giving little kids, little babies that were just born, hep B vaccines.

Like, what are you doing?

Like, that's a—you get that from needles and sex.

Yeah, unless it's Pam Anderson's baby, dude.

I wouldn't put anything in that kid, you know?

And I don't even know if she has any kids or not.

And I love Tommy Lee.

I don't know who else to have said that. Well, you fucked up.

I'm already done, dude.

It's a joke.

What are you going to do? It's a fucking joke. Yeah, sorry.
Everything's okay. I feel the same way about Bobby.
I don't know him as well as I know Tulsi, though. Tulsi is a good friend of mine.
I love her. She's great.
She's an awesome person. She's like a legitimate awesome person.
You know, that lady, she served as a congresswoman for eight years. And the whole time she was against this Divide of right versus left.
She was always trying to be cool with everybody She served overseas. She was deployed overseas in a military in a medical unit man So she was helping people that got blown up by the war twice.
That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair But only yeah, that all came from the stress of being overseas working in a medical unit. Wow.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that? No, your body's, you can't imagine. You know, I was just talking to my friend Bruce about this last night.
He was a cop in Austin. We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the stress that has on you.
And what he was telling me is you take like a cop that has like 20 years in the job. They what they see is probably 10 X what the average soldier who's deployed sees because you're seeing murder all the time.
You're seeing car accidents all the time. Suicide all the time.
Domestic violence all the time.

You're pulling people over. You never know if you're going to get shot.
He goes, most of these

guys are fucked up because they're just

constantly seeing this stuff.

Constantly. Oh, yeah.
I'd be

at home out here. Somebody open a jar of Pringles and I'd

fucking pull on them, you know?

Yeah. You hear that top pop?

Yeah. What's going on?

Dude, we had a police officer on a few years ago or about a year ago. Can you look this up? Jamie's okay to ask him to look something up? Yeah, sure.
Okay. It's a police officer.
how long ago uh yes this guy retired police officer um sergeant brad white

this guy was super unique he lived in Los Angeles. But he told this story.
He didn't have any political thoughts. He just told stories of what it was like being a police officer.
And he told the story of his first day on the job. They're chasing a guy.
The guy runs into into traffic gets hit by a vehicle and killed right so even as just a human being like right you're you're just doing a job but then you're like trying to compartmentalize or or how do you know what effect did i have on this what am i you know like he told this story of a mother had called and said that her son was was thinking about committing suicide. Right.
The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up.
He's he's a police officer. It's in outside of Los Angeles, I think in Whittier Police Department.
I could be wrong. He shows up.
The mom meets him outside. They see the son comes into the doorway.
Right right it's like a glass door with another door behind it kind of takes his own life right right kills himself right in front of them so now he's standing there with the mom oh my god now he has to go he has to go he has to console the mother then go inside of the home he walks inside the door won't open because the man's body is there right it's he's having trouble getting it open even just that moment he gets it open something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt and it's part of the guy his brain matter he had shot himself on the ceiling so i know that's graphic and stuff um but and then for the next three or four hours he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his um bat wings whatever the whatever what is that proof vest no inside of your body shoulder blades yeah and it's brain matter yeah and it's just like that's just a regular guy vest? No, inside of your body. Shoulder blades.
Oh, yeah, shoulder blades. Yeah.
It's brain matter.

Yeah.

And it's just like, that's just a regular guy, you know?

He might not even have finished college or something, you know? It's like, so just the baffling amount of stuff that police go through.

Anyway, I was trying to just like, those are stories that stuck with me when I spoke with that guy.

It was like unbelievable.

It's just conveniently ignored by most people who will never be police officers and then that was one of the more offensive things about the george floyd thing all this defund the police shit where people rose up and were saying defund the police and i mean defund the police and kamala harris was one of them she was out there tweeting defund the police and because of that crime just ramped up in certain communities and so many people wanted the police back but then it's you know it's a long process to try to and to this day the most of these cops don't have good morale they still have this this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago yeah it's hard to get people to be cops now they don't want that fucking job job. And why would they? It's a fucking hard job.
Yeah. And they don't even.
I think the highlight like they usually they used to play like softball in our area against like the fire department. That was like the highlight of it.
You know, it was like having like competition, you know, but I don't even like if you defund them, they're not even super funded. You don't ever see a cop with like a boat or, you know what I'm saying?

Like you don't even, like, if you defund them, they're not even super funded. You don't ever see a cop with, like, a boat.
You know what I'm saying? A baller cop. Yeah, you don't see a fucking, yeah.
Right, if you think about how hard that job is, like, hard jobs should pay more. Yeah, dude.
You know? Like, what is the, I think if you paid them too much, though, then they just quit. Like, I got enough.
I'm out. Yeah, I don't know if you talk.
Because, like, what's's harder being a rapper or being a cop it's fucking way harder being a cop oh yeah i think yeah because rappers get paid way more that's true cops just i think a lot of cops will start making albums from their cars but there really should be some there should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer, this is going to happen, watch, and makes a dope track with a cop. Right.
And you could make a dope and you'd have so much great visuals. Right.
And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department. Yeah, like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel and you can sample that.
Yeah. Sample that and turn them into songs.
We got them. In pursuit.
Different codes. Different codes.
51-50. Isn't that when someone's crazy? Oh, yeah.
That's crazy right there. That's 50.
I think 44. Is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy-nominated rapper, Sacramento police officer, records new deployment recruitment video.
Pull him up, man. No.
Yeah, I mean, I looked. I just figured there could have already been one.
What's that, 5150s? What do you have to do to be a Grammy nominated? Grammy nominated doesn't impress me. Like, Grammy winning, that impressed me.
Grammy nominated? Who nominated you? My Grammy won't nominate anybody. She liked traveling Wilburys.
You didn't? I mean, I didn't. I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, hey, they're good, I respect that a little bit more.
But that's just me, you know. Lainey Wilson I love.
She's great. Red Clay Strays.
Steven Wilson Jr. Red Clay Strays are great.
They're good, huh? Yeah. There's good music out now.
It's a good time for music because, like, you could find things so easily. You know? You don't have to wait for the radio.
You just find stuff. People send you stuff.
Like, in the green room all the time, someone will play something. I'm like, what is this? And they'll Shazam it.
Like, oh, shit. It's nice.
That Shazam thing, that feature is so huge. You know on Google Pixel phones, there's an option to just have it on all the time.
So anytime a song is playing, you can look down on your phone and it'll tell you what song's playing. Uh-uh, I didn't know it.
Do they still do that? I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel.
What was I thinking about? I feel all over the place today, Joe. You ever feel like that? Oh, yeah.
Like you open your life. Yeah, I didn't sleep well.
Two days in a row, I didn't sleep. The night of the election, I could not sleep.
I got home. I was wired.
Did you jerk off or not that night? No, no. I just sat in front of the TV.
I was watching Professional Pool, sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith.
Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3.30 in the morning. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up.
She's like, what happened? Who won? I was like, Trump won in a landslide. You're like the Spurs.
And then she was up. It was a landslide.
It was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was going to happen in 2022.
Hey, Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020 versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024. That they're still saying it was a giant jump.
That's what I see, too. A lot of people think it's bullshit.
Could be. There's a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers because biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million it's really crazy if you look at the chart well did uh yeah did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year yeah that's what i don't know what the visual report is for this year but then i guess this is the most consequential election I think I've ever felt.
For sure. For sure.
The way people felt about it, too. The people on the left thought they were convinced that Hitler was coming.
They're convinced that some right wing authoritarian is going to come down and take away all your rights. Well, that's a that's a that's the media does that.
A hundred percent. But 100 percent.

Not what he was saying.

Not what he did for four years in office.

It's all the media.

And we're all victim of it a little bit because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him because then you've got to defend the fact that, no, he didn't really do that.

He's not really a felon.

There were only misdemeanors.

Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. This is just Texas, right? 61% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race.
But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in because the nationwide numbers were they're pretty consistent like through the entire like if you look at 2012 it's consistent with 2016 which is also consistent with 2024 the anomaly is 2020 in 2020 everything goes way up way up maybe because people were sitting home and so bored and they said it's that much to do you think could be could be because it was during covid could be they there a lot of people weren't working so they did have the opportunity to vote the voting should be a national holiday i agree i don't understand it's crazy that you give some people a complication like imagine if you have a shithead boss like boss. They're like, I gotta vote.
Why didn't you vote early? Because I was working for you, you piece of shit. Let me go.
Let me go vote. Yeah, I mean, they give Christopher Columbus as a holiday, dude.
The Lieutenant Dan of the 1400s. That dude gets a fucking holiday, okay? Yeah, why don't you go read what that guy did.
Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained it to Indigenous People's Day.
And the Indigenous people are like, thanks, after you wiped out 90% of us. Thanks for giving us a day.
How about we keep that day? That's fine. But how about we have an election, national election holiday? We could do it one more holiday.
Celebrate it. It's a great day.
People can rejoice. And then I think- Cookouts.
Yep. It would take a lot of stress off people, too..
It's like today's also a day of celebration. It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever.
You should have a paid. And eat in my car.
It should be a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day that election comes because everybody should be able to go vote.
That's what it should be. We should make.
We'll talk to Trump about it. Making a nationally mandated holiday.
I don't have his number. I don't know.
I mean, there's a guy in his department that has his number. We could hook it up.
I know some people. Yeah, dude.
It was just what a... I mean, just like what a crazy week.
Yeah, very crazy. Well, you were one of the first guys to have him on the podcast.
Did you have any hesitancy of having him on at all? My brother, actually, my brother is a lot smarter than me, and he said, Hey, man, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right? Like you could, some people could be upset about it right you know and i thought about that a little bit and i was like well i don't really like i like i don't know you know like i have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that and it's like it's hard to find a group that really embodies them and if anything right now for me it seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties.

It doesn't seem like, this isn't

Democrats and Republicans. There's something else

transmorphing right now.

And so

I thought like

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Voidware prohibited were prohibited one per new customer bonus awarded as non-withdrawable pick six credits that expire in 14 days limited time offer see terms at pick six dot draft kings dot com slash promos i thought well i think i'm i just want to be able to have a chance to talk to this guy you know and the main thing for me was like um like you talked about dana white earlier he's really uh you know i know that you guys work together and he you know i knew that trump's brother suffered from addiction right i knew that right i just i heard that or something and i looked into it is like okay he lost his brother his brother died of addiction so i was like well that's interesting to me you know and i wish that people i wonder if there's more to donald trump like is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means you know try to get an emotional well like more of an emotional well to him that's then it seems like that's in the public well there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people this was the idea like if you had on a guy like trump you were platforming this bad person this was this thing yeah i didn't think about that at all but it's a it's it's an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people and it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on on anybody. Look, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris.
I'm like, I bet there's a person in there. I bet I can get to that person.
Yeah. I wanted to find that person.
I don't want to hear all the speeches. I don't want to hear, I was raised middle class.
I don't want to hear any of that shit. She's a roller skater.
You know that? No, I would love to find that out. Yeah.
I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit. I of shit I would I literally said like cuz there was a few restrictions of things that didn't want to talk about But I said I don't give a fuck I go get her in here Like whatever you want to talk about and they want to know if I edit like this Yeah, we're not gonna edit but Yeah, that's the same thing.
I just saw is there an edit, you know, I just wanted to talk I just like I feel like you give someone a couple of hours And you start talking about anything. I must see the pattern of the way you think I'm gonna see the way you process ideas I'm gonna see whether or not you're calculated or whether you just free.
Yeah, or are you comfortable with you? Or do you are you projecting things like she's got 80 different accents how do you decide which one to pull out yeah she's she busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to yeah they should have made her talk to a bunch of chinese folks i would have loved to hear that accent i want to see what i do that too though i like to meet people where they're at you know oh if i see somebody that's you know i'll be like what's happening my friend you know it's like i like to meet people where they're at. Sure.
If I see somebody, I'll be like, what's happening, my friend? I like to meet people where they are. Yeah, she did one with Latinos where she talked with a Latino accent.
I'm like, this is wild. But she's a chameleon.
But if you want to be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait. I agree.
It's like a comedian that's always on. They kind of get ignoring.
But if you want to be a comedian, that's probably a good trait want to be a politician You should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of Meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be yeah, you know, yeah I mean maybe not maybe it's just like the I always feel like the environment of debates the environment of interviews on television the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake. It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is.
So like when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about dual cocaine, then it makes you like an owl. Oh, God.
It was hilarious. It was hilarious, but it was like you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out like who is this psycho i'm sitting here talking to i remember that shit i'll fucking make a nest in my living room dude that shit boy you'll fucking i'll scoot over to the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak homie there's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man.
I can only imagine. You talking to him as a person is almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does.
Because when he's in front of everybody talking about we're going to make America amazing, those are great speeches. But you don't, like, she had an amazing speech.

When I was like, she could win, was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like, scared to debate her.

But he says all these things.

But you know what?

What I always heard, if you want to say something, say it to my face.

And the whole place went crazy.

And she was laughing.

I didn't see that.

Oh, it was so good. It was her best speech for sure.

And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president.

Maybe that is what got people involved.

Biden stepped down and she had one banger of a speech.

She looked young and energetic and like it really made you feel like this is going to be a change.

She's hot.

Yeah.

She's younger.

She was a smoke show.

She's still all right.

She got that thang on her, I bet. So the.
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF like it, she got that thang on her. That's all I'm saying.
I understand what you're saying. But that one speech was almost enough for her to win.
And if she just didn't talk other than speeches But they would have done they needed to do a better job of the speeches because every speech was the same and the problem with that is We were talking about there's like the internet you get to see that speech over and over again online like and then people make Compilations of speech and right in the same thing, but it's like if someone goes to see her act You know they, they don't understand, like, acts, like, to develop a bit, it takes months and months and months to really, like, put it together where it's, like, rock solid. Yeah.
And you're gonna do it the same way or slightly different every night. And if someone comes to see you and goes, Theo's so full of shit, man.
He told us the other day that it was just the other day. Yeah.
But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later. It wasn't just the other day.
It was three fucking weeks ago, dude. You're repeating the same shit.
Yeah, you got too many leap years, white boy. Yeah, shit like that.
Exactly. So that's what they feel about like a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over and over.
Well, hey, you're not supposed to go see all those speeches. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know? But the thing you know it's like rambles but trump has a lot though trump has a lot that are repetitive he does but not in the same order it's like going to see a grateful dead show it's like it's all over the place you know he's when trump gets out there he just does tugging did you see he accepted he had this long-winded speech about the rocket that was insane i'm like You just won tugging. Did you see? He accepted.
He had this long-winded speech about the rocket. That was insane, dude.
About Elon caught the rocket. I'm like, you just won the presidency.
Edit. Edit that down.
You can edit that down. That could be two minutes.
Beautiful lines. I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking.
When he was talking to me about Lincoln's bedroom, I was like, oh, boy. Like, where is this going? I've been to Lincoln's bedroom.

How was it?

It was okay.

I think you can bring it up, actually.

It's in Springfield, Illinois.

Oh, it is?

No, he was talking about the one that's in the White House.

Oh, no, I've been to just his child,

before he got elected.

Why don't you go to his childhood home?

Oh, wow.

It's really interesting.

He used to keep his notes in his hat.

Oh, that was a good move.

Pretty cool.

Big-ass hats back then. That head wallet, baby.
That's a good move. That's a good move.
It's like credit cards behind your phone. That kind of thing.
Except if you lose your phone, you lose everything. But you ain't losing that big-ass hat.
That hat was fucking long, dude. Isn't it crazy, man? You ever see how many dudes wore fancy hats back in the day? That shit just went away.
It did. imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family you're like our family makes hats bro i'm balling forever i'm gonna take over this business and then no hats if you watch there's a great uh outside boxing match in reno nevada between jack johnson and i think it's jim jeff Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries.
And I think this is Jim Jeffries. Yes.
Not that guy. Another one.
Not. It's not the comedian.
No, I'm talking about the murderer. No, maybe.
I don't think so. I think he's just a boxer.
Who was it? James Jeffries. So see if Jack Johnson versus, this is it.

Who killed the people with that Kool-Aid or whatever?

There's a video of all these folks that are walking to the event, and every man has a

fucking hat on, dude.

Look, they all have hats.

Look, they all have fancy hats.

Look at all these guys.

They're taking off their hats, waving their hats.

Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this.
Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats.
What happened? They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats. First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention with that many people on the streets dressed up in suits.
That's true. That's it.
It's the only time you're ever going to see this. These are like regular men walking on the streets.
Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button-up shirt and a suit jacket. That's Jim Jeffries right there.
Oh, those guys are good, dude. James J.
Prattock. That's John L.
Sullivan. No way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the guy from Monopoly, too, right there.
He was a bare-knuckle boxer back in the Diz-A. And he was still famous back then.
Wow, look at him putting it all together. That's a guy from Monopoly right there.
He was a bare knuckle boxer Back in the Disney so and he was still famous back then Wow look at him putting it all together

That's so cool. And that cool.
They so they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries

Oh, that's how it goes. Jim Jeffries is trying to make a comeback.
He was a little bit older

Back then bro boxing would go until someone died. Yeah, they would have, I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then?

They were crazy.

It was like 80 rounds or something.

Like, what's the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie?

I think they had some insane amount of rounds.

That's a good question.

Look at this.

The greatest number of rounds was 276 in a 4 hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunney in Cheshire in 1825. Holy fuck dude.
Introduced in 1867, each round of a fight would last until someone was knocked down. Oh my god.
Wow. Bro.
Bro, 276 rounds is so crazy. That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag.
Yeah. You'd have to swallow vitamins.
You'd have to swallow vitamins. You.
You just get your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain.

I'm just joking, Brennan.

It would be 110, I guess.

Oh, my God.

At New Orleans, that's where it was.

In 18, well, he lived to 94.

He lived to 1867, 1920.

Oh, because in 1893, it lasted 110 rounds.

Oh, my God.

Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw.
Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Much less having to fend off a guy.
Having to take a shit. You're in the middle of a 200-round fight.
You have to take a shit. They should have a diaper round.
We have to fight and shit at the same time. I would bet it'd affect your punching power if you just waddle around and shit.
Of course. Dude, I don't think there's a way you can shit and punch at the same time.
It would be very hard. Look that up.
Very hard. Because, yeah, think about it.
Yeah. No.
You need to tighten all that up if you're going to throw a good punch. Like your ass cheeks tighten.
Because you kind of use your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch.
Not effectively. Yeah, we cracked the code, bro.
Yeah, we cracked the code. You're going to lose that round.
So I guess they probably just pissed themselves. I know guys who shit themselves in the UFC.
Multiple guys. Yeah.
That breaks my heart. I believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once.
Who else? Someone came out there. Michael Chiesa looked over at me once while I was doing commentary, and I think he got called.
It was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker, so he didn't get as much warm-up time as he wanted, and then all of a sudden he's running out there and he looked at me. He goes, dude, I'm about to shit my pants.
I go, really? He goes, yeah, I'm about to shit my pants. And he won.
He went out there and won first round submission. Because he had to.
Because he had to. Yeah.
Dude, there's another. So is this the fight? Oh, is this another guy who shit his pants? Five fighters who poop their shorts.
Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself a little bit.
Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there. So that's crazy.
Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself. Randleman shit himself.
It happens, man. Look, you're getting your liver pounded on.
You're getting kneed in the guts. Oh, I got in a car accident once and it happened.
You shit yourself? I didn't want to. I didn't have a choice.
It just happened. It wanted to.

She shit her pants too. Justine

Kitsch. Congratulations.

I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that

on OnlyFans.

You sell them shitty drawers.

And that's Mark Goddard right there. Call time out,

brother.

Is that what it is? That's the poop?

Oh, no! Imagine if you're

face down, if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke and they didn't clean the mats that good and the person before shit all over the place. You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked.
God, that makes me scared. Yeah, that's a scary job.
That's the scariest job. You think.
Yeah, I went to that fight with you. Or no, I went to that fight.
Remember me and Joey Diaz went. Which one? In New York.
Oh, I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went and saw the James J.
Braddock statue. Before.
It was in New Jersey. Before Dustin and that last fight that he had.
No, the one before the last fight. Justin Gaethje? That was in.
No, after that. It was in New Jersey.
Okay. The pride of...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Benoit Saint-Denis.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it? Yeah, he beat up Benoit Saint-Denis and knocked him out.
Islam Makachev. That was after that.
He lost to Islam. That was in Jersey.
Which one was in Jersey? Islam? That one was in Jersey. He didn't beat Islam in Jersey.
Right. Right, right, right? Right, so he fought Ben was in Deney then he gets a title shot against Islam Yeah, I went with Joey we said I went to the um James J Braddock statue before Mmm, it was awesome dude.
Islam's a monster. He's so good.
Yeah, it was crazy. And Joey was like what dude he was This is love, dude.
He's a fucking tremendous, he's one of a kind. And his book is great, too, if you haven't read his book.
But he's sitting there, he'd been eating mushrooms, you know. And once he even started eating a little, you could see Aaron Rodgers start to look over, you know.
He was getting curious, you know, he's like, what was happening, you know. That's hilarious.
But by the sixth quarter or whatever i don't know how many how the fights go but it's like by the sixth quarter he's just rubbing on his thighs right he's talking he goes who's winning dog that's what he kept saying oh i can't wait to see him joey used to shovel snow for james j braddock did he really yeah wow Wow. That's crazy.
One of my favorite things that I ever learned about him. That's crazy.
Can you imagine that? That is crazy. What else is going on? I'm going to see him in a couple weeks.
He's coming out here. Joey is going to start staying out here for months at a time.
Yeah, he wants to get a place downtown in the club. I'm going to come back and look in about a week and a half.
Every time he comes, he's like, I've got to come out here, dog. I'm like, come on.
We'll make it easy for you. I'm like, we'll make it easy for you.
You tell me when you want to come. We'll fly you out.
Put you up. Whatever you want.
I'll get you a real estate lady. Let's get the party started.
And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now. Because him and Lee Syatt, they were together when they were at the club together.
And I'm like, come on, let's get the band back together. You guys together were fucking amazing.
There was nothing like that. That show kept people alive.
That show, Joey Diaz's show, was one of the most ridiculous, silly, preposterous shows. It was so ridiculous.
and then he went to New Jersey and Here's a problem with me Joey in New Jersey He loves New Jersey loves New Jersey people he needs comedians and you you forget that until you're not with them And then you're like oh this ain't no fun He's talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know decent. That's nice I like talking to all kinds of people Yeah, obviously, but I need comedians in my life Like I need vitamins like I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D.
I need I need comedians It's too like that night that we had in that green room watching the elections How many jokes were crack how many fucking times we rag on Tony? Oh, dude. We talked Tony off the ledge.
We did it. Tony's got statistics.
26% more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump. Bro, he had the Puerto Rican app open on his whoop bracelet.
I'm like, they have that? What is that? Bro, the whole thing. He was like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind.

They tried to label him as a speaker.

They said he was a speaker.

A speaker that was at the Trump rally?

He said that Puerto Rico was a pile of garbage.

These are human beings.

Was that Adam Ray?

No, no, no.

That's Obama.

Oh, it is?

A speaker that was at the Trump rally? He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pile of garbage. Dude, the simple fact that Obama's talking about Tony Hinchcliffe is crazy.
Bro, Obama's doing a Tony Hinchcliffe bit. There's a video of us at the mothership.
What is going on? We played it yesterday, but I want to play it again, Jamie.

Play the video.

It's on my Instagram of Tony is on stage in the main room.

By the way, Tony goes on stage.

It's like Richard Pryor just showed up.

They were going nuts.

He murdered.

He has 35 minutes on it.

He's on stage.

No way! At the same time? At the same time. Yeah.
We're definitely in a simulation. So this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV while Tony was on stage on the TV monitor.
That's unbelievable. We did it.
He was so nervous because here's what was going to happen. If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories.
If Kamala wins they have out outlines for stories if Trump wins if If if Trump lost they were gonna blame it on Tony They had stories where they're gonna blame it on that joke And they were gonna say that that joke turn the tides and made people realize the Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and And they were gonna blame Tony and Tony would have been fucked because then the supporters would have thought that too. Right.
So it was like both sides would have disliked Tony. Absolutely.
Absolutely. He would have had to go to Puerto Rico.
No. Costa Rica.
Maybe. Mexico.
Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really. No, they don't even.
They don't get along that well. In fighting, there's always been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans.
Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, man.
For sure. I didn't know that.
Well, you know, there's no prouder group of boxers, I think, in the history of Earth than Mexican boxers. Oh, yeah.
Mexican boxers are known for a specific style. Like, if someone says, you fight like a Mexican, dude, that's a huge compliment.
huge compliment yeah Mexicans like Julio Cesar Chavez you know fucking Canelo Alvarez Oscar de la Hoya you can go down the line you know Morales fuck man there's so many Manuel Marquez yeah so many man yeah they got just so many punches in one punch well there just is a there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far and

it's so you know and with boxing it's always people that are poor that want a

way out and one of the best ways out if you're a poor young man punch your way

out fight you can you can make millions like Canelo like Julio Cesar Chavez like

so it's like the history of people rising through boxing but there's a similar history in puerto rico puerto rico has a history a great history of boxing too really there was always a rivalry between mexico and puerto rico i could see that because you're both latino cultures and you want to be the best you know oh yeah i'm trying to think if i've ever been to a boxing match or not. You should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.
It might be the last boxing match ever. I don't know if I want to see it.
Do you want to see it if Mike Tyson wins? I remember watching Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr. Yeah.
And it was like two guys beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever. Baby diapers? Yeah, bring it up They were wearing like big diapers or whatever.
No, they were wearing cups. There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear.
So the protector that boxers wear is foam that covers like the front of your hips and things too. Maybe I'm not thinking about it.
Maybe I'm thinking about something else then. But it just...
This to me seemed... They kept hugging.
This is what I believe. I believe really, truly, to my core, that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only going to hit him to the body full blast.
It looked like every time he hit him to the head, he was kind of pulling back. It just didn't seem like...
This didn't seem like a real fight. Right.
It seemed like a fight to the body, though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard.
And I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body. But you know, both of these men are 50.
Roy in his day, I maintain to this day, was the greatest boxer I've ever seen. Wow.
Roy Jones in his prime was a freak. Like, I mean a freak where he wouldn't even throw jabs.
He would throw a lead left hook. He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab, and people couldn't understand it because you'd never been in a ring with someone that fast.
If you look at Roy Jones' highlight reel of KOs, you ever watch Roy Jones' news in his prime? Uh-uh. They were executions, son.
It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but a different thing. In fact, in a Nas song, Nas says the new Mike tyson's roy jones wow roy jones was just executing people he was so much faster than anybody his timing was so good he was a sniper oh my god he was just so skillful who would you rather knock you unconscious you think if you had to pick a good fighter oh i don't know maybe roy would just put it out quick just pop you on the chin and, though? Both of them will knock you out quick.
You think? Yeah, and this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinny Pazienza. It was the only fight in copy box history where the opponent didn't land a single punch.
Wow. A single punch.
This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signaled to the referee, stop the fight.
And the referee said no, and then Roy goes like this.. He's like look at Vinny.
Sorry. I got to do this I never even seen this lights it up bro.
He was so good in his prime But like all fighters they stay past their prime and people really only remember them for when they lost Yeah, you know Roy in his prime was just something Completely special he had a Allenverson vibe. You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last.
That's what you would watch, to see what he would do to guys. I did a fishing rodeo with him once.
Did you really? Yeah. He's a big fisherman.
He dropped his hands, put them behind his back, and knocked a guy out. Like, lured the guy in and hit him with one straight right hand and and dropped him it was one of he would just like that's crazy dude i can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body this guy's doing this shit that's what blows my mind he was so good he was so good oh and everybody that went in there brother right there there's a thing that happens when a guy's gonna fight like you would Anderson Silva.
Who is that, Bill Cartwright? Who is he fighting? I don't know. Some dude is in real trouble.
They should have stopped this fight already. Oh, God, bro.
That dude did not need to take those other two punches. Dude, he was so fast.
Yeah, dude. Tony was.
Tony was. He was terrified.
He was terrified. Tony was terrified.
Right when I walked in, I hadn't seen him in months. I'm just fucking grilling him.
I'm like, there he is. I'm like, who's an island now? That's what I said.
He's fucking sitting there. Who's an island now? Did you really say that to him? Yeah.
And here's the best thing about Tony, though. He laughed.
Like, Tony is for the joke yeah like even if he's like going through it he respects the joke and like always always there's many layers to that whole thing it's like you tony is who he is and you you almost you respect that to the core it wasn't the best timing probably not right no was there a lot of supervision over him what he said no probably not not. But that just shows you how disorganized that meeting was.
It's disorganized, but it's also real. So it's like there's two ways to look at it.
It's like, yes, it's like nobody proofread it. Let me clear something there because we did say that they went over his material.
They didn't. They did not go over his material.
They did. Someone suggested he take one joke out so he took this one joke out and he had he's like oh what do i put in his place he decided to go with the puerto rico joke you fucking dumbass don't you know we did it yeah but he's just so silly but he's the but he laughs at himself oh totally but also he's it's weird because it's like, do you want things to be tailored or do you not want them to be tailored? You know? Yeah.
It's like you could have a group that goes through every single joke and says no to everything. Right.
And then you get nothing. You know what I'm saying? It's like how many layers of like

when you drain spaghetti or whatever

I'm talking about? Like how many layers of

spaghetti? Nah, shit.

I don't know. It's been a long year.

I know what you're saying.

But I think when you get to a certain level of your

career, you got to say no to things that are

outside of comedy. If you're just coming up and someone says you want to go speak in front of the president, go out there.
Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best.
Yeah. But if you're Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast, Kill Tony's the number one comedy podcast in the world.
Unread. You have millions and millions of downloads every week.
Don't do that. Just do comedy.
You're really good. I just was trying trying to tell people if you saw those same jokes on stage he kills fucking crushes it's just the worst environment ever for it lights are bright it's in the day yeah no one knows a comedian he goes up cold no one goes on after him there's like his big-ass pause after him the whole thing was like organized terribly terribly oh it's complete disorganization there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing, like, what do we do with all the extra time? Let anybody talk.
Who wants to talk? This guy owns a fucking sandwich shop. Let him come up there.
Yeah, look, it's my friend Giovanni. Let anybody in there.
They were letting people that were saying wild stuff, too. Oh, they were letting anybody in there.
And it didn't seem like they vetted a lot of the speeches Some of the speeches like what? They had 40 minutes of ASMR in there. They were fucking letting people do anything Whenever you get an organization whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats you got to kind of like appease everybody and you got psychos and moderate people and they're all together under this one banner of this one like if you've been off sports team He's, like, one dude on the team that's a fucking psychopath, right? Oh, yeah.
Dude, don't cause any fights. Like, leave everybody alone.
Let's go. Come on.
We had a brother. He would slash everybody's tires.
But then here's the thing. We were giving him a ride home.
So it was like, well, now we're all fucked. You know what I'm saying? But that's who he was.
You had to respect him. He was a power forward, you know? Yeah.
Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions. People don't, man.
A lot. People don't, man.
I am football players, bro. You get hit in the head a lot.
You're going to make some sketchy ass decisions. Nick Bosa got brave and shared his, uh, political thoughts the other night.
You see that? No, I didn't. Well, it's just crazy how like on, on mainstream stuff, if you share anything one way, it's okay.
But you share something another way, it's not okay. Right.
Like if you, nobody got angry at people. They made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris.
Like we made fun of Dave Bautista. Like because it looked just so silly.
Like this performative commercial where it's really important to vote for Kamala and Tim Walsh. Is healsh.
Is he Minuta? The wrestler. The guy from Guardians of the Galaxy.
Okay. You know who I'm talking about.
Big Jack dude. He's trying to get movies, man.
He's wearing pearls to red carpet events. I know what you're doing.
You're trying to get those movies. You've got to show.
For what, though? You're an artist. You're sensitive.
You're on the right side. Put him in the...
He wants to be a lead in a movie. He wants to be a movie star.
Then fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something. Dude, I'm telling you, it's the right move.
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You ever seen it? Or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald Trump that? No, no, no, no, no. Bautista.
Dave Bautista did? You never saw it? Find it because it's kind of funny. Is he the intercontinental champion? I haven't watched wrestling in a bit.
He was a big-time wrestler, was a giant dude,

like fucking built like a superhero.

And then he went and did Guardians of the Galaxy.

Oh, yeah, with Chris Pratt.

Yeah.

He's a big, giant wrestler, dude.

Yes, now I know who you're talking about.

Yeah, but he wants to be a movie star,

so he's losing some weight.

He's a good actor, too, man.

He was good in that, what was that movie,

The Glass Onion? The Glass Onion, yeah. That was a great movie.
He was really good in that, what was that movie, The Glass... The Glass Onion.
Yeah, that was a great movie. He was really good in that.
Trying to think of what I've seen recently. He's just like, if you're a big giant dude, and you're a big muscle-bound giant dude, and you want to do serious roles, you kind of got to lose some weight.
And you kind of got to support Kamala Harris. You kind of got to wear pearls.

You kind of got to soften your stance.

You got to kind of be performative that you're the guy that they would want to pick.

Because that's part of the battle.

Here, let me get this.

Oh, that's him?

Yeah.

I thought that was Eddie Bravo, dude.

Donald Trump is some kind of tough guy.

He's not.

I mean, look at him.

He wears more makeup than Dolly Parton.

He whines like a baby.

The guy's afraid of birds.

Donald Trump had his daddy pay a doctor to say his will feet hurt so he could dodge the draft.

Look at that gut.

Like a garbage bag full of buttermilk.

He sells imaginary baseball cards

pretending to be a cowboy fireman.

Guy's barely strong enough to hold an umbrella.

While he's working out.

And where is this?

At Jocko's gym?

I don't know.

That's pretty funny.

He's got jugs.

Big ones.

Like Dolly Parton.

He cheats at golf. He creeps around beauty pageant dressing rooms.
You know that little dance he does? Yeah, he's a pervert, dude. Who isn't a pervert? He's moody.
He pouts. He throws tantrums.
No, get those lights off. He acts like a five-year-old behind the wheel of a truck.
He bends over for Putin. His cat here on social media is a middle school bean girl.
The guy needs help walking downhill. Almost there, Grandma.
So this November, let's stop kidding ourselves. Donald Trump is afraid.
I don't watch this kind of stuff. Look at this.
The punches. The windmills.
Meryl f***ing Street.

And being locked at.

Isn't it past your jail time?

Mostly, he's terrified that real red-blooded American men

will find out that he's a weak, tubby toddler.

Mommy, take me home, mommy.

I want to go home.

Don't you know what a tough guy.

Someone grab you by the p***.

Wow.

That closing line's pretty tough, baby.

That's not bad.

It called him a b***h.

But it's like, you know what he's doing.

Yeah.

Try to become a movie star.

It's a good move.

The Hollywood liberals 100% love that.

Well, Hollywood's just crazy to me, dude.

I don't understand it like it seems like they hate white men well some people that work in hollywood i'm sure don't like white men but that's the thing about woke culture it's like there's a hierarchy of the uhices that you have faced but it's like white men have even if it's not you which is where it gets prejudiced because it was not you the white men over history have caused the most grief they've caused the most trouble they've been responsible for the most injustices in this country at least you know yeah slavery redline laws other people have to slave let's don't just pin the tail on the honky donkey right but in america slaves were exclusively exclusively owned by white people right in other countries they're owned by all kinds of people this is where it gets weird that's what we got to do then well people don't understand is there's more slaves today than there have ever been. More slaves today than there were before 1865 when slavery was abolished in America.
You're lying. Nope.
There's more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Gaddafi on television, do you ever see that? Uh-uh.
I didn't know. It's one of the most terrifying videos.
What channel was it on? C-SPAN. Nuh-uh.
But Libya became, for a while, became like a failed state. And at one point in time, there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube.
Okay. How crazy is that? Like, Google the actual numbers.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
That's a real statistic. And this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal, okay? Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life, of course.
But it's also people being exploited. And there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing.
Who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking. There's who knows how many people have been.

Okay, hold on a second.

It says estimates range from about 38 to 49.6 million people are slaves today.

The number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine.

Estimates range from 38 to 49 million.

What?

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I didn't have any clue. Well, you have to include people that can't leave, even if they're not in cages.

People that are trapped, right?

Like Gaza people, you mean?

Well, no.

I would talk people that work in coal mines or cobalt mines in the Congo.

They're essentially slaves.

I mean, they give them the minimal amount of food and water, they work in horrific conditions, and they live in complete abject poverty. But they're treated better than the people in Gaza, though.
Perhaps. Well, they're all getting poisoned.
They're all getting poisoned, pulling that cobalt out of the ground. Yeah, but still, they're getting lunch, I bet.
Probably not a good I bet Lunch I would imagine either way. Yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse But the point is like those people you could kind of consider slaves And then there's real slavery, you know, um this friend of mine was telling me about this place that was built in Jamaica or the Bahamas I think it was the Bahamas and they brought in Chinese workers in like this giant ship and he said they they had this patch of land they put up a fence around the land and all the Chinese workers lived on that land and the Chinese workers built this resort there and they worked non-stop 24 hours a.
They built the whole thing in 18 months. They would just have shift after shift.
And once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back in the boat, put them right back to China. So what was that? Was that slaves? That's slavery.
I mean, it seems like slaves. It seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was.
But they put a fence around the area. They brought people in a giant ship.
And then they put them back on the ship and shipped them back to China. Yeah.
Well, look at Firefest. Remember Firefest or whatever? Yeah.
What the fuck was that? That was a dude trying to make money. Right.
But still, those people got carted over there. Yeah.
Nothing to eat, nowhere to sleep.

Definitely different than slavery, but still, it's like, yeah, it's funny.

You think just because things happened a long time ago that it's not slavery today, right?

Well, I wouldn't say that Fyre Festival is a form of slavery. I agree.

Did you see Prop 6 in California?

What is that?

That's on the screen.

Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude. And it did not pass.
What? What? Wait a minute. What? In California? Yeah.
Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime. Because a lot of them gay producers trying to trank out them twinksie That's why bro keep them as slaves.
Oh yeah, bro They fly every now and then how would you every now and then a frickin some twink fucking clambers out of an air van? Oh, here it is. It's forced labor in prisons.
Yeah Oh paying people to work in prisons and just like they have to fight the wildfires and stuff Interesting so they want them to have to work. Wow.
They just don't want to pay. Yeah, that's California.
But that is what happened, right? That was what the Jim Crow laws were all about, man. Like one of the things about slavery is slavery didn't end.
Boom. Now let's get black people jobs.
No, slavery ended. And then there was this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything.
Yeah. And then they'd be forced to work.
And they had work camps. And so you were still- It was the same thing.
You could just get caught and you'd be a slave. You'd get a bad cop besides you're speeding.
Whatever it is, you're a slave. Yeah.
Speeding, you need to have a car and you're like, you're speeding. Yeah, you're looking at people bad.
You're verbally intimidating people, whatever the whatever it is. You're a slave.
Yeah, and they did that car and you're like you're speeding Yeah, you know you look at people bad you're verbally intimidating people whatever the fuck it is people like you've see with the When someone they someone wants to target you for something you pissed off the wrong people They fucking come after you with the law and they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn't be free And we're just gonna with there's an industry around slave labor which there is there's also an industry now around keeping people in prison right because the prisons are private so it's a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money you get paid for them being there so who gets paid? The private prison. There's contracts with the state.

Like it's like a summer camp or something kind of thing? Well, I don't know who gives the contracts, but no. Prisons are owned by corporations.
Okay, so prisons own corporations. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Prison is owned by a corporation, so it's a business. Okay.
So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana.
So the prison guard lobby, they were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison. Because the more people in prison, the more jobs they have, the more hours they have, the better benefits they'll have.
And the prison wants as many people in jail as possible. Because they get money.
That is how they make money. Wow.
Yeah. not the government no well in some jails but there's private prisons like what are the percentage of private prisons well no i know we've looked this up but i forget the number are they nicer i don't think so what about the excalibur in las vegas that place is a fucking private prison you ever been there dearcus is going down.
That's the ultimate. Circus Circus is like, how is this place legal? Dude, that was the...
At the end of 2022, 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons. What? Yep.
Which is about 90,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system,

which is mostly public, which, by the way, is even crazier.

How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage?

We have more people in jail than any other country.

Do you know that?

Yeah, and we need a few more in there, too, I think.

To be honest, bro.

Freedom is safe.

Some people can't handle freedom. Freedom ain't free.
Freedom Freedom ain't free, man What are you eating over there? I need a hit of something, man One of these? Huh? Something Oh, that's Zins or something? Yeah Breakers? You scared of it? You have a vape on you? This is non-alcoholic I have this What is that? Bust out the smelling salts I'll take a hit of anything dude. I'm about to fucking jerk off just to get high, dude.

I need something. What's going on, man?

What's happening to you?

It's just been a long week, man.

Anxious?

Yeah, it's just been a long year, man.

Well, you're successful.

You're handsome.

I don't understand it.

I don't understand it either.

This one's so bad.

It stinks.

Chuck me a knife, Jamie.

Got a knife over there?

That's not the fishing bait one, is it?

No, bro.

This one is so strong.

I haven't even opened this yet. Sniff it.
It's not the fishing bait one is it? No bro this one is so strong I haven't even opened this yet Sniff it It's not even opened yet Can't smell it You have COVID? Nope I don't think so Shout out to my friend John Reeves Who gave me this knife This knife was made with You got a vape in here still man? No do you need, man? What's wrong with your vape? I just want to hit a nicotine in it. What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Just faking it? Yeah.
Just trying to get through it all. Do you want a cigar, perhaps? It'll make me sick, I bet.
Okay. I want you to get sick.
I know. Before I bust out these smelling salts, son.
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How many seconds did I do, man? That's PBR shit. I did it.
You had a good haul. Let me get one more.
One more. Sorry, man.
Sorry. Don't be scared.
I like it. I like it.
Oh, Lord. Yeah, I can't leave you alone out there And two land I gotta get a dose in myself Oh my god Fuck I just think I saw who won the Heisman Oh my god Bro that shit made something happen to me Those are so strong Wow I'm gonna join women's sports That was a lot, bro If every time you did this And you left here And you felt like you couldn't remember things well Would you still do it? Do that? Yeah If you would lose a little bit of memory Like where's, like, where's my keys? Nothing serious.
Like, you remember your name. You know, still remember your phone number.
But you, like, where's my keys? To do a little bit of a drug? Yeah, just a little hit. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, one of my eyes just shut down, and yeah.
And I like it. It's like, how far can we go? There's something about doing something.
It's like, I think when you have addiction, you want to do something that harms you. Is that what it is? you want to fucking because it's control it's like i want to control how i feel so even if how i feel isn't great the there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like if i have control over it then that's it's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you you know make any sense so if you have control like so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to Kind of mitigate that you do a little bit of damage to yourself.
So you have control over the damage Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel so even if you feel damaged you still did it to yourself there's like I Don't know man. I'm doing worst job no i know what you're saying um self-destructive tendencies yes it's a big part of addiction

you know yeah self-destructive it's like i just things are feel so hectic right now at least if

i damage myself then i'm the one doing it i'm not just letting the world do it right there's

in in the moment you don't see that that doesn't have any value right afterwards. You're like shit.
That was dumb But in the moment that feels like at least i'm taking control of the situation, right? I think sometimes you spend Too much time alone Me personally, yeah, I think it's probably true. Yeah, I think knowing you and being your friend for many years now, I think when you struggle is when you're by yourself too much.
Yeah. Because when you're with everybody else, everybody loves you.
We all have fun together. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
We need that, especially us, especially comedians. We need to be around people that are just like us like

You don't have to worry

We could just talk shit laugh and have fun. There's no like wondering where we stand with each other

It's always fun. You need a home base man

Yeah, you know and you were you were doing better when you were at the comedy store all the time because you're around us all the time

We're all around each other

We were all we knew there was a place we can go where we could find like-minded people and have

a laugh.

On a regular basis, which is like

we're so fortunate. Most people

don't have a place

where they can go, where they're guaranteed

to see people that they love and you're

going to have a good time and just be silly

with each other. And then you're watching all

these sets, everybody's going on stage with that

energy and so there's all this killing in the air. Yeah, I mean, Mothership's fun, man.
I would want to look for a place where I just haven't had the time. Let me ask you this.
This year's been the craziest year. You know, it's just been a crazy year.
And so it's like... Well, it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff.
Yeah, it's been fun. Your podcast is killing it.
It's been scary. You know, it's been fun, you know.
I appreciate the couple times, you know, you've messaged me after a couple episodes and said, hey, man, I like that or something. I really appreciate it.
I want to let you know that I really appreciate that. Oh, well, I appreciate what you're doing.
I'm very, very proud of you. I'd love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks.
It's really good, man. It's very authentic.
It's a perfect podcast in that it's really you You you know how to be you you're real authentic even if you're talking to Trump you're being you you're talking about to a cocaine with Former President Trump, but yeah new newly elected President Trump so it's like I just want to have a voice, you know I always just wanted to have a voice ever or not even I just want it. I don't know you want to be able to express yourself Yes Yeah yeah i just wanted things to be fair and i just want to express i just like yeah there was always this feeling inside of me like i don't have a i can't speak up for myself you know and so like i think and even if i'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak it's like there's still like something that you know it means it's like i can't even explain it but it's like um it's so it's like i don't know it means something to me yeah i think these kind of conversations are very good for you like conversations that you're having conversations that i'm having i think they're good for you you get to you get a chance to communicate with people that are you know really interesting unique people that have lived completely different lives than you like i had brian cox on the other day explaining the universe to me fucking i could i was like a kid in a candy store it's like it's so exciting to get this guy's this like super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator could break down the fabric of the universe for you and what we know about it.

I mean, like, when does anybody ever get that opportunity

to sit down and talk to someone like that for three hours?

Yeah, man.

Dude, I had a lady who had been driving cats

across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus, right?

And they perform and they do music class.

And, bro, I'm not even joking to you,

it was one of the most fascinating things I'd ever heard in my life Because her commitment to it Imagine she got her CDL so she could drive The fucking bus because it was so expensive What's a CDL? Commercial driver's license And she goes around doing feline shows Around the whole country And she's been doing it for 15 years Who do you think she voted for? That's a good question. I don't know.
Whoever, hey, grab him by the pussy, probably that guy. Do you know that crazy cat ladies, that there's a reason for that? It's the same reason that, like, it's a cat parasite.
Toxoplasmosis. So you're saying it's a medical ailment? Makes you aggressive No, it makes you aggressive I bet a lot That term, cat lady, crazy cat lady That's a real thing That lady's got a parasite, she's got a brain parasite Toxoplasmosis You can't tell them that I bet I could test them Get a cheek swab Hold that lady down, give me a cheek swab I guarantee you that lady's got it bro that lady what are you i used to live with a dude bro i used to live with this dude right and i ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something and whatever and i fucking cut a window into my closet dude and it was to the neighbor's apartment i thought it went outside i got kicked out oh my god but before that i lived with this dude and he would get really Imagine you're that lady in the apartment next door and you hear a song.
Her, her, her, her. Some dude's cutting a hole into your fucking apartment.
Yeah, man. I just...
That's the crazy thing about apartments, right? That's the crazy thing about cocaine. That's how apartments have nothing to do with it, bro.
I've been up for fucking 42 hours on drugs. You want to hear something crazy? Trump at the day of the election, Dana White told me he'd been up for 72 hours.
I go, how is that possible? He goes, dude, he's a freak. It's so weird.
Well, yeah, dude, I'll say some things. Here's things that like whatever you think about, the guy is guy is as resilient no one could go through all that shit when the justice department started to fuck him over that's when a lot of people were like you know what the just the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system and if they're fucking him over right and then he got shot at a couple of times dude he's he's a quarter of 50 cent yeah you know what i'm saying he's like so it's like how what else does it you know at a certain point you're just like i gotta bet on this dog yeah you know even if it's like you don't even like it it's like this motherfucker this dude he you gotta bet on that dog at it if not it's just bizarre you know i mean the guy gets up and says fight fight fight after he got shot in the ear he's not freaking out he's like oh my god i got shot get me out of here they're shooting he looked he goes no no stop stop fight yeah fight fight dude i stubbed my.
I called my assistant a faggot. You know, it's like...

So, yeah, there's something special about that guy.

And if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him,

why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason?

Right? If you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating.

Obama was repeating it in one of his speeches.

He said about those white supremacists, very fine men on both sides.

That's not true.

Yeah.

It's not true.

Well, I don't understand why left-leaning media, which is mostly Jewish, are calling people white supremacists, dude.

Jewish.

Did you just say that?

Yeah, I just don't understand.

Left-wing media is mostly Jewish?

I mean, according to my Jewish friends, it is, you know? But why do they hate white guys? It's just woke things, man. It's just virtue woke bullshit.
I just don't understand it. Well, because the hierarchies have experienced a polar shift.
Okay, so here's what it is. If you go back to the 1960s, the kind of racism that people faced before the race riots and all that was horrific because it's just 100 years removed from slavery ending.
And the echoes of that... Oh, it's still in our genes.
Yes. But the echoes of that were much more prevalent then.
And so black people were heavily discriminated against. Gay people were heavily discriminated against.
People recognize that that's wrong. Young people go to universities.
They get taught that it's wrong. They recognize the sins of the past.
And then they overcorrect. And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized.

So you give people like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed So the oppressed the previously oppressed now have a social hierarchy a stand They're a higher level if you're a black trans woman You get to say the things first at the meeting, you know, let the black trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture.
Right. And if you are a white male who's heterosexual, you have to be non-binary because otherwise you can't get in.
You got to be a they, them because then now, okay, now you're marginalized. Like all you have to do is change your approach.
That's the lowest level of entry is non-binary straight man. You just say you're non-binary.
And they're like, yeah, you just say, I just don't feel like a man or a woman. I mean, I fuck chicks.
You know what you're doing, you little chameleon. Yeah, you're just being a little secret care bear or whatever.
You're sneaking around. But there's hierarchies.
And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed. Gay people weren't even allowed.
Even in 2013, up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago.
That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and a woman.
So now kids realize realize how stupid that is young kids Generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do unless we're paying attention as we get older We pay more attention to what's going on before but now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up Colonial society has been how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people.

So they want to like re-correct things.

Oh yeah, if I was ever in office, dude,

Native Americans are getting

a lot of shit back immediately, dude.

Well, they already have casinos.

Huh?

They already have casinos.

Yeah, but did they want casinos?

I wanted them to have back

whatever they want.

They're getting it back.

They're getting the rivers back.

They're getting the lakes back.

They were taking it

from each other too, dude. No, I agree.
Everybody acts like americans were like everybody's just like whistling and just shaking hands but they were fighting yeah 100 but you'd have to figure out like who owned it like at that time yeah and give it back to them and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back because if you want to go back to the old ways that's the old ways you want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas like okay good luck but you know what the Comanche's favorite thing was doing raiding other tribes they loved that they were gangbangers yeah they were gangbangers they would show up in other tribes and slaughter people and that they wouldn't just slaughter people they would torture them they would cut their arms and legs off throw them on a pile of fire Nobody ever surrendered ever because they knew that there was no leniency. You're gonna be tortured and killed Oh, it's a fight to the death 100% Fight to the death not being able to surrender because you have no choice but to fight to death That's the concept of surrender was completely alien to Native Americans Yeah, they fought to the fucking death and they fought each other to the death and there was battles between all of them and they conquered and they made alliances and you know especially Little Bighorn they all got together and fucked up Custer but there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different and you'd have to go back to when.
Right, you're like when. Well you got it because you killed all these people.
Let's go back to the Algonquins. Let's give it to the fucking Apaches.

Let's get like, you'd have to figure it out, man.

Like this was a gigantic-

You're going to have to tickle a dream catcher to get the truth. This was really like, in some ways, other than the violence, it was like a utopian existence.
It was these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses traveled on horseback following them around they didn't even make art dude the the comanche didn't make art they didn't make any why they were just warriors just warriors eating meat all they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else so if you so so is it weird that we feel bad about that?

Like, is that a trap?

Like, that's what I'm wondering.

Does that question make sense to you?

Well, that was the way they lived.

You know, I mean, is that better than drone bombs in Yemen?

You know, when we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse,

is it better?

Is that better?

No.

The whole thing is fucked.

It's fucked that Gaza's going on.

It's fucked that they're using these poor Ukrainians

like fucking meat for the Russian war machine.

The whole thing's crazy.

It's all that Gaza's going on. It's fucked that they're using these poor Ukrainians like fucking meat for the Russian war machine.
The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad.
But the crazy that was going on back then was a one-on-one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy.
It was like there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these, you're going to go kill them and take that thing from them. And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge And they would be in bed at night You would come in the middle of night and slaughter oh yes, and they did that to each other They did that to each other so it was a horrific way of existing because sometimes there's this there's this vision that you Romanticize that right right I do that a lot I romanticize things that I don't know about.
Because there just seems like something like oh that's romantic or something. This was a culture of warriors.
It was fucking hide and go seek for real. It was a culture of warriors.
This whole country was filled with nomadic warriors. And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox that's what's the crazy oh most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the Europeans how gay must that have felt dude you're fucking warrior right suddenly you get a fucking something sneezes on you at the depot you go to the trading depot to drop off some fucking skins.
Some dude sneezes on you and that's a wrap.

You've been training all day, dude.

And some guy

just fucking doesn't wash

his feet for half an afternoon.

Or just came here off a boat.

Stinky bitch was breathing shit

air and drinking shit

water.

Can you imagine the hygiene on those boats? Columbus's ship? It was like the first Burning Man, dude. That place was a dump, dude.
I heard the Penta didn't even have any chicks on it, dude. It's like, there's an example.
Columbus is an example. Could you have done it? I mean, probably if you lived back then, that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored.
But you're in the—it's early morning. A couple guys show up.
You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean. If you're a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for three months.
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And you make it across the ocean. And when you get to the other side is there's gold everywhere.
They didn't even know where they were. Yeah.
But if you read the accounts, there was a priest that traveled with them, some sort of religious man that traveled with them. Oh, yeah.
Like a detailed diary of the horrific things that Columbus's men did. They bashed babies on the rocks.
They told certain men that they had to give them their weight in gold. And if they did, they would chop dudes' arms off in front of everybody.
They enslaved these people and used them for their gold because these people had no use for gold. They didn't know how valuable gold was.
You mean when they got to the Americas? Exactly. Wow.
Exactly. Yeah.
They just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude.
There's horrific depictions of what Columbus's people did. We romanticize.
I romanticize nature so much and it's really vulgar, vulgar isn't it well It's just humans have always done this to each other and for all of human history the strong groups of men with weapons Invade people that aren't prepared and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. It's always happened It's it's the the most common thing if you go back and look at history.
There's a bunch of common things. There's an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities.
There's machines. All these different things improve.
But along the way, the consistent thing is war. It's constantly happening from the beginning of time.
As early we know tribes were battling other tribes and back

then when there wasn't that many people wasn't that many resources and you were competing to see whose genes spread it's just natural you develop tools and weapons and then that's ingrained in our fucking dna so here we are in 2024 with iphone 16s and starlink and we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved.

Right.

And that's how humans evolved right and That's the scariest thing about being alive today is that we're so advanced We're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history and yet Same amount of people if not more are dying Senselessly all the time right like we're civilized on the outside, but there's a part of us that will always be uncivilized Well, the part of it is war right and other parts of the world are not as calm as us You know, there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous. Yeah, they're the You know, there's places of the world where you can't go with without getting robbed or shot.
Yeah, there, first of all. Is Memphis that bad?

Memphis is bad, dude.

That's where Elvis came from.

Huh?

Isn't that where Elvis came from?

And he left. Has it changed?

Where's Graceland?

Actually, you know what's crazy about Graceland, dude?

It's in Memphis.

And it's cool.

You go out, they let you in the backyard after the smoke,

and Elvis' grave is right there.

You could smoke right in front of Elvis' grave?

You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis' grave or 80 centimeters.

That movie, that... The backyard after the smoke in Elvis's grave is right there.
You could smoke right in front of Elvis's grave? You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis's grave or 80 centimeters.

That movie, that Elvis movie was so good.

Which one?

The one about his girlfriend?

Where Tom Hanks plays the colonel.

You didn't see that one?

Oh, yeah.

With that dude, what is his name?

Austin?

Colonel Winters.

What's the fellow's name that played Elvis?

Austin Butler.

Austin Butler is really good.

Yeah, that was good. He fucking, he nailed it.
He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis.
What a crazy story. Yeah.
Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous.
Yeah. Like, there was no one that famous before Elvis.
No, there wasn't. Well, yeah, there was.
Jesus, probably. Who else? Maybe Jesus.
Constantine. I think Jesus got his rep.
He got his real appreciation after he was gone. Yeah.
You know, sort of like Kurt Cobain. Yeah, kind of.
That's a good point, huh? I mean, people love Kurt Cobain while he was alive, but I think they really appreciated him after he was dead. there's certain guys.
What do you think you what do you What are you gonna do What are you gonna do when you die, dude? All right, we'll see about that. Well, we will see about that.
That's what's interesting Imagine if you really do go to heaven and st Peter really is there with a book like this is crazy like, this is crazy. First thing you're going to think is, this dude's gay as fuck, I think.
With that robe? You're going to wear a robe. Some dude has a checklist or whatever.
It's like trying to get in a hide or whatever. You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on.
Robes are stupid. I never want to wear a robe.
Even if I have to go to a massage place, you got to wear a robe before you take the robe off. I'm like, okay, you're going to see me in my underwear in five minutes.
So why don't we just do it now? It's flirting. It's lingerie.
A robe, yeah, dude. A robe is just male lingerie.
Why wouldn't God be wearing a robe with a rope tie? Bro, don't you know about pants? I don't know. You can get yourself a pair of origin stretchy jeans.
They're great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants.
God, why are you wearing a robe, man? You think God's got that thing on him or what? What do you think? Probably got a hog. You think? He created the universe.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
But it's too big? I bet you would want it. I bet you would want it.
If you saw it, you'd want it. I wouldn't go up to it.
Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God.
Hey, look, I'll tell you this. I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude.
If God's real, he made gay people. Anybody who thinks gay is a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people.
Let me be real clear about this. I think there's some people that are open-minded

and say, I'll try being gay for a while.

It's not me.

Maybe it's you.

Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it

and he panicked at the last minute and ran away.

Yeah.

He thought he had to be open-minded.

He had to stay up late to do it, I feel like.

I feel like it's like a late night activity.

A lot of gay stuff doesn't happen at 9 in the morning.

Until past 1.

Yeah.

Past 1 a.m.

I like to get to bed at a decent hour.

My point is, God made gay people.

Yeah.

So it's clear, if God made everything,

He made it. 9 in the morning.
Until past 1. Yeah.
Past 1 a.m. I like to get to bed at a decent hour.
My point is, God made gay people. Yeah.
So it's clear, if God made everything, he made people that are gay. The craziest religious answer, like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer.
He said he thinks you should ignore, don't do it because it's a sin. Just like you want to murder people, but you don't murder them.
Like, bro, how much do you want to murder people? Like, it's like, because gay people want to fuck every day. Yeah.
Like, you know, who wants to, if you want to murder people every day, check yourself in. That's a crazy comparison.
Like, the gay thing is literally your sexual expression. Like, you're attracted to other guys.
So, like, if you're not attracted to other guys, do you think, are you sure God wrote that down? Like, are you 100 100 positive that god really thinks that's a bad idea but yet he made people that have that urge right it would be it wouldn't be fair if he did that it wouldn't be right right i think the craziest thing is i think if you the first gay dude must have been like what's going on you know like he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like, you know, to just look around or whatever because they didn't have that much stuff back then

and his buddy comes over just to like look

around or tell him about like an animal he saw

or something and he just starts thinking, man, I'm gonna

fucking... I bet...
I'm gonna

get this little rabbit. I bet it

existed from the jump. No.

Little rabbit? Little rabbit? What do you think is a

gay dude? You get that little

rabbit? That's what you think? Get that little

fucking booty rabbit.

Booty rabbit? Huh? I think is a gay dude? You get that little rabbit? That's what you think. Get that little fucking booty rabbit.
Booty rabbit. I think gay guys have been here from the very beginning.
I'm going to snort that little fucking... You know why? Because I think human beings...
That little dirt oyster. Jesus Christ.
I'm just saying, bro. What do you think? If the thoughts have to come into your head, something puts the thoughts thoughts in you I think it starts in the thoughts.
I don't think it starts in the DNA Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was I think see if you find this I think was University of Rome They proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous

and that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

So the idea is that these women are just so they're so dick hungry that it literally passes

on through their genes.

Where was it?

Was it in Rhode Island?

It wasn't in Rhode Island, was it?

No, but that could happen in Rhode Island.

Providence would be a good place for that. Isn't there like a gay mecca that's kind of there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Provincetown, I think. Yeah, Jeff, what's his name used to party there? Jeff from the comedy store.
I think Provincetown is Massachusetts. But I know what you're talking about.
There's a thing in Rhode Island, and then there's Fire Island in New York. But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous they wanted a bunch of different sexual partners at this same that it might be actually a gene thing you see the gene thing is weird man because Brett Weinstein explained this to me he said do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot? And I said, no.
Like, what's the difference?

He was like, a beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have

a long-term relationship and raise children with.

Yeah.

And then a hot woman, like a woman who's wearing, like, very skimpy clothes

and looks like she's really made up.

The idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without any consequences.

So this person, you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes as primates.

Just spray and stray kind of thing.

Like Monsanto or whatever.

Fertility.

The amount of children they have, I think, or something.

I thought it was the promiscuous women. I think.
show you the time to say that there says that I hope that one of this is their interpretation this is a yeah that's around the time gay gene survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children right but guess what if you have more kids it means you like dick I think they were talking about promiscuity though however a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and the mothers their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men I think we need more gay men in some of these areas well hold on a second second. Doesn't that make sense though? That would make sense like in terms of like natural selection because if you're someone who's like over Having kids okay, too many kids you have like ten children all right I would see how nature be like you know what we don't need to spread these genes as much Let's make a couple of these gay Right nature is like let's let's even things out right right oh i think nature wants people to balance yes nature wants balance yeah and if someone has 10 kids and everybody else has 10 kids that could get out of hand real quick so i can see how if you have a lot of kids nature be like you know what let me do this what was that where was that study done from uh university of Rome? University of Padova in Italy.
Okay. And just as there's people that's gay, there's people that are non-sexual at all, really.
100%. Which is, stay out of the fight.
You don't belong in the 2A2 plus A. Yeah.
Whatever that is. So what is it? It's QB D.
What is it? LGBT LGBT LGBTQ2 AI plus a is asexual stay out of it. Yeah, stay out of this.
Yeah your fight Yeah, they got it some people It's not your fight. Yeah, you're just like You don't even have sex with anybody Yeah, what if you're just jerking off at your house? Are you in that or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people? Right.
That's lonely sexual. Yeah.
And L. I think they're going to put robots in there.
You see that robot cutting hay the other day? I did not. Pull that up if you don't mind, Jimmy.
With a scythe, like the Reaper? Like a Reaper? Yeah. It was like a little bit of like a, not a slave bot or whatever.
We were talking about robot bodyguards, that in the future you'll have robot bodyguards if you can go anywhere you want. That'd be cool, but then like the second you start, you got to run, they're going to be like, all right.
And then they'll run, it's going to take half a second, half a second kills everything. I bet they just pick you up and they run with you.
Wow. They just carry you.
Did you see this? It's not real. There we go right here.
This is not real?

Oh, that's not real?

It's not real.

Wow.

Jamie, you're a party pooper.

Look how it's moving.

Super real.

You see that pod where they're killing?

Jamie, that is so real.

Yeah, that's real.

Go back.

100% that's coming.

Yeah, sure.

But yeah.

That's just a bad video.

I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs,

there's a lot of those jobs that are going to be taken by.

Like unskilled labor jobs are all going to be robots. But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that like at a certain point should an ai it doesn't if it doesn't help us be human that at a certain point we should stop it that's how i feel like oh yeah yeah but you feel like we're there now yeah yeah yeah they should have stopped a long time ago if you want humans to survive should have stopped it a long time ago.
If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay, that doesn't make sense because you're making something way better. You're 100% going to make something and you're going to give it autonomy and you're going to give it sentience.
And it's going to be infinitely smarter than us. It's not going to be restricted by any biological needs.
It's not going to be greedy. It's not going to be mean.
It's not going to be malicious. But it might decide we're useless.
It might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean and fucking up the fucking rivers. It's risky.
Yeah. Nuclear waste.
It's going to be like, what are you doing you morons? Why are you idiots cracking atoms? Stay out of that. You don't even know what you're doing.
Here's free porn and a fucking VR mask. You give your free food.
Have a blast. Let you stop breeding.
Our population will just drop off a cliff. They just, I saw they were we talking about a second ago? Robots.
Yeah. Oh, they're killing people at the airport.
You want another hit of this? Yeah, I'll take another one, man. I need another sody or something.
You got anything on you in here? We got coffee. You want some coffee? Take another Kill Cliff if you got one.
Jamie, go get you one. Want some coffee? Is that coffee? Yeah.
Yeah, I'll try some money. It's a cleave mug.
It is? It's warm coffee, eh? It just came out of the oh hell yeah it's like the civil war why do you pour it with one hand trapped underneath that arm you're freaking me out challenging myself dude that is wrist ability that was all wrist you didn't move your arm at all dude you were all wrist on that jam yeah that's hard to do man thank you that's what the wrist is the weakest link you ever ever do wrist curls? I'm shocked at how weak, bitch-ass my wrists are. Oh, it's amazing.
Well, it's amazing whenever you take any jiu-jitsu classes, how the first thing you start to learn is control the wrist. It's crazy.
It changes everything. Especially guys with big hands.
You could grab a guy with a basketball player style hands. There's this dude named Semmy Schilt.
He used to fight in the UFC. Semmy? Semmy Schilt.
He was seven feet tall. Oh, wow.
And the problem with Semmy is if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrists. You can't get your hands free.
You're like, this motherfucker. Because he had these fucking baseball mitts for hands.
He just wrapped his hands around you. That's Semmy Schilt.
Wow. He was a K-1 Grand Prix winner.
Oh, god, he looks like Zach Bryan a little. Seven foot tall.
He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA, too.
Wasn't a good grappler, unfortunately. That was kind of his downfall, but he had a nasty front kick to the body.
Yeah, he fought Peter Ertz. He fought everybody, man.
Semi was good. And he was real tall and real good at utilizing that height.
Wow. It would seem like I be scared to be that tall in MMA because you'd there be more of you to be attacked by Sort of but you're way further away, you know Like the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can't strike you Yeah, like a guy built like John Jones has the perfect fighters frame because he's still very strong He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean.
So he's not relatively bulky compared to his weight because he's long and stretched out. Yeah.
So he can hit you from here and you can only hit him from here. This amount of distance is so huge.
If you have a distance like that much, which where a guy can hit you and you can't hit hit him you have to cross that and you're so vulnerable while crossing that and if a guy's a good counter striker and he's active and he's long they're so so hard to get in on so a guy like john that that's always going to be an advantage and then with john if you do get in on him that's no picnic because he's an elite grappler so he's going to str strangle you. He's going to throw you to the ground.
So you're fucked. You're in this fuck zone.
On the outside, he's kicking the shit out of your knees. John's one of the nastiest, like sidekicking people's knees out.
Yeah. Most dangerous guy.
Very dangerous. People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter.
Is that the truth, do you think? Well, Dana White says he's the greatest of all time. Right.
Which a lot of people say. Yeah.
I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means. That's a good question.
If you want to say who dominated his division longer than anybody, who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division, and who never lost, that's Jon Jones. The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight it was Dominic Reyes was coming up he was in his prime it was a really good fight a really close fight but Jon won what I think was a split decision and then he had a split decision with Thiago Silva Thiago Santos but Thiago Santos he blew out both of Thiago's knees Thiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight.
I think that was a split decision. But the bottom line is John won all those fights.
And then, you know, he wins the heavyweight title too. It's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time.
I say, you know, if you had to only pick one, I would pick John. But I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time I always say Mighty Mouse because Mighty Mouse would do things where you're like what the fuck did he just do? He when he fought Ray Borg He tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down Oh God you ever see that No, I've never seen that.
It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air.
Fuck. It's so fast.
Like, when it turned, to me it's like, when I just think, watch this, throws him, boom. Oh! Bro.
Wow, dude. Bro.
Bro. If that dude ain't good at gift wrapping, you got the wrong guy, bro.
You know how crazy that is? Look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air, he switches to an arm bar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight.
That's like a stunt. That's like a stunt move.
If you saw that in a movie, he'd be like, shut the fuck up. up nobody can do that right? He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight

Yeah, it's crazy how many of those guys would be like are like Hollywood stunt man, you know

And then you gotta you also got a like if you just look on record

This is where it gets crazy if you just look on record of accomplishments against champions

You kind of have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time. Which is so crazy.
He's one of only three two-division champions, right? How many have been two? You have Conor, you have DC, you have Alex. I think that's it.
Didn't tell Per... No.
No. I think that's it Amanda Nunes that doesn't really count because 45 it does count but 45 is kind of a non-existent weight class He doesn't exist.
He's a hunter that she was fighting girls that could have fought 35 It's it's real but like 45 is the most one 45 for women is the most shallow division in. So yes, you would say Amanda too.
So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that. And he achieved it in record time.
He's knocked out so many fucking champions. Knocked out Jamal Hill, beat the shit out of Yuri Prohaska, knocked him out in the second fight.
That was crazy. Bro.
Hunted him. Bro.
Bro. That guy's unbelievable watching him.
He's a fucking monster, dude. He's a monster.
he's a fucking monster dude he's a monster he's a force what he did to khalil roundtree was a clinic khalil's amazing he's amazing to do that to a guy like khalil like that was a clinic in like elite world class mma and at first the first two rounds you're like what is this like what's going on khalil's in They're both in it. But then you start to see that Pereira's hunting.
It's like this hunting. Yeah.
The pressure never ends. Yeah.
And you're like, oh, my God. It's like literally watching one of those snakes, like a snake when they're just kind of like.
Like, did you see that snake that ate that deer? It was like a 77-pound deer or whatever? Yeah, I did see that. You did? Of course.
I see all that shit. Shit's crazy, dude.
Bring that up. Bring that up to that big dog, man.
I'm glad he says snake because that's kind of how Pereira moves. He moves like a snake.
Like he pulls back and then he strikes forward. He pulls back.
He's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming in right behind him. And he operates at his own speed.
He's almost like Alvin Kamara is a football player that does that. He operates at his it's a speed you've never seen.
It looks normal but it's different. Well it varies a lot too.
Like sometimes he moves fast and sometimes he moves slow. It's very hypnotic.
Yes. It's hypnotic.
It's also unique. He's got a unique frame so he kind of looks he moves different on design.
Wow. Like he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks so you don't see him come until it's too late.
Right. So he's standing in front of you, and when he kicks, there's no movement of his shoulders.
He's just throwing these kicks out, and they land. And they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it, but it's hard enough where you're like, oh, no.
And you get hit with a couple of those, three, four, five of those. All of a sudden, you're like anymore And now he's hunting you and he's hunting you see I would put him already in the conference I don't think he's better than John Jones greatest of all time But I already put him in the conversation as a potential grace of all-time nominee Oh, he's fucking he's right there.
He's the male Katniss Everdeen. He's been in MMA for a few years hunter.
And he's only been in the UFC for a few years. Yeah.
It's crazy. A couple of MMA fights other than the UFC, and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division, just smashing everyone to a blitherent.
So then you got Khabib undefeated. Oh, yeah.
So many greats. What is the difference between the greatest? Oh, George St.
Pierre, another two-division champion. That's right.
George won at 85 as well. I almost forgot George.
Yeah, so George, one of the greatest of all times for sure. Yeah, I saw him.
You put him in that conversation. I got to see him in Canada.
Anderson in his prime. Anderson in his prime is in that conversation.
You got to look at him like in their... In the moment.
Whenever there's a moment, a time period of like this amount of years to that amount of years let's all agree that this is the prime forget about when they should have retired let that go yeah just talk about them when they're at their best who is the best that's a good point yeah because everybody that's doing great you want to stay as long as you can it would be weird if you didn't probably you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out because it's just a foolish endeavor They shouldn't have been fighting a killer at 20 at 42 years old, you know natural and it's timing too Yeah, there's but there's just a lot when fighters fight late into their career. You got a kind of You got a kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression.
Yeah, I feel like prime is their ultimate. It's everything they could do.
They did everything right. They crossed every T.
They measured all their food. They fucking did the cryo chamber and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills.
And they were going over moves. They're coaches.
They had a battle plan. Everything plan everything so those guys you can only do that for so long there's that's like a nine year at at the best when you're at the so you got to look like in that when like fedor in pride you got to look in that window don't look at fedor now and you know guys are knocking him out and it's just not the same he's an old guy he's been beating up a bunch of times still a bad motherfucker but it's not not that dude who was running pride in the early 2000s right it's not fair yeah you got to look at them when they're in BJ Penn at his best yeah the BJ Penn for a few years I say is as good as I know you talk about him a lot I've heard you speak about him a lot dude you just had us in this when he was it was just a matter of was BJ going to get him in the first round? Was he going to get him in the second round? BJ was hyper-aggressive and just unbelievably talented.
I wasn't watching back then. And dexterity, dude.
He had crazy dexterity. He's the governor of Maui, isn't he? No, no, no.
He was running for the governor of Hawaii. Did he win? No, he didn't win.
Oh. No.
I went to Maui not too long ago, maybe four months ago. Maui isn't he or no no no no he was writing for the governor of Hawaii did he win no he didn't win oh no I went to Maui not too long ago maybe four months ago Maui's awesome yeah it's all but we went to the place where the hurricane where the uh fires were fires blew my mind man it's still nothing right it was unbelievable yeah it was it was just like it was unbelievable to see what it occurred, you know, and just like, it's crazy how quickly we just as like how we move

past certain tragedies, you know, like we don't mean to. It's just the news cycle does and, you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle and so then it's kind of hard, you know, but it was.
I'll tell you one thing. The way the administration handled that, I think put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth while at the same time they're sending all that money to ukraine i think that was a big problem with the the biden administration when they did that i think you can't do that you can't while you're sending all this money overseas ignore the people that are here because then it's like why do you why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you deciding to give them $700? Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist.
Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right? Because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that but meanwhile these people are still paying mortgages so like what happens and it's hard to figure out there joe because a lot of people they live like second and third generations all living in the same home right and they've also a lot of you know how how hawaii is they like they'll like take little pieces of land it's like you know people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard that kind of thing it's very like um you know there's only so much land but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable oh yeah it's like this perfect like like that slope heading looking down at the ocean what I would be fearful of and if I was someone that was working in the government that want to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up.
Let's make sure that these people get their land back. That'd be the first thing I would say.
If they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, that's one thing. But if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don't have the finances to rebuild.
Maybe there's a struggle with insurance. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month.
Who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you're like, whoa. Yeah.
Because if they just like one of the things that the governor was talking about was like turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say? Acquiring what was his exact term that he said but he said it like right after the tragedy it was like dude this is not the time to say it it's not the time to ever say it it's not the time to ever say you're going to take people's land and and turn it into a park when they because they just got hit by a fire so now you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view not anymore yeah now the government's gonna take your land why because you got in a tragedy what yeah like I got double fucked you got double fucked you don't even get to keep the land like you can't even rebuild there no not anymore there was a tragedy like wait a minute well that I think that's a weird thing when you don't feel like as a person that your government is gonna support you I think that's but that's probably like a feeling why that sounds like the opposite It's like your government's trying to rob you, right? Like did you find it find the quote that he said? Okay, I got it.
We got to read the quote cuz the quote is like it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off I'm Tulsi was so pissed off BJ was pissed off. Yeah, everybody was like this is Like, how can you say that right after a tragedy like this?

Yeah, I remember I went there.

I just walked up to the fire department that was, like, up the hill from there.

Oh, man.

And I just walked up, and I was like, hey, I would like to – is there any way that I could go see what happened?

When I was looking for it, this says that the video was shortened, and it makes the comments distorted.

It distorts Hawaii governor's comments about the state buying land in Lahaina I didn't so what are the actual what did he actually say though I can I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so that we could put it into workforce housing to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost we want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place and Lahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life.
The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the banyan tree may survive.
But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take and preserve it first So maybe some of their goal maybe some of their goal was to preserve it on a second hold on a second say that again Scroll back This is interesting.
We don't want this to become a clear space where then yes people from overseas Come and decide they're going to take it The state will take it preserve it first. I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it.
So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it and selling it and putting something there. But it still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's going to take the land, it'd be very scary as just a regular person like yeah, so I'm gonna lose so I'm either gonna lose my right Land from to here or to here right like where am I going now? What am I doing? You know and you don't hear anything about it.
Yeah, you don't anymore We looked it up once there was a time where the government accidentally over sent money to Ukraine They sent them six billion dollars. They shouldn't have sent Yeah, so we looked up how much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's five billion.
So the extra money that they accidentally they could have sent to Ukraine They could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over but but we have give you seven hundred dollars unreal that's disgusting that's disgusting like if you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team you got to treat us all like we're on the same team you can't really be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing anything to help these folks like yeah that's just yeah people are people say like well your tax dollars don't affect it But at a certain point it's not even about that. It's just like do you not? Like if I'm if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system Does the system not care about me, you know, but I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways So well, I think whenever you have a system.
I'm out of my mind system You know systems a bunch of people and so when you have a bunch of people an enormous amount of people It's too many people to think about as individuals you think about it as numbers and that's that's what that's like the sort of Sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number.
Yeah But when people start to lose their perp Like if you start to lose your sense of being an American these start to that's a that's big for a lot of people Right like so then it's a sense of purpose, right? One of the senses of purpose is I feel like that we get or like having a job having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love or having Being a part of a country right being a part of a fabric of a society right and when those things start to erode some of those things and if you don't have any other ones to back it up Then people get really rogue, you know Well, they get rogue especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins are gonna be in a right-wing fascist dictatorship That, just that's fucking pissed me. That should be in that that's a crime.
It should be it Well, it's the very least it's like slanderous like that's not it's not true You can't back that up. It's not true Like you're you're saying something that we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that And what does fascist mean? Let's look up the actual definition.
But there's a bunch of different versions of it. It's usually connected to a right-wing authoritarian ideology and a power of the state over people.
And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also – you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain speech, which would make a lot of left-wing people fascist as well. Far-right authoritarian and utilitarian, ultra-nationalist, political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition,

belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived

good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to anarchism,

democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism.

Fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left-right wing spectrum. Who's doing all that? No one is.
So it's a bullshit term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please.
It's like there's real fascists in the world. There's really dangerous people.
That guy's not. He's got a big ego.
He says ridiculous things. Who are you talking about? Trump.
He doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president. No, he just seems like just an older guy who kind of likes being Donald Trump.
I think he loves being Donald Trump, but I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with. Well, think you need a businessman to do this.
It's not a it's not a we don't live in a like this like Care bear world anymore ours our politics. It's become a dirty fucking business Yeah, so you I think you want a businessman in there like I don't care if somebody like somebody's attitude can the guy do business? then that's who I because it's not it's not it's all business now like we've been it's been

it's not it's not it's all business now like we've been so it's been sold out it's like i don't feel like it's this i don't know does that make any sense dude sorry dude i'm fucking having a day man no don't apologize i know what you're saying i know what you're saying yeah it is business but it's like you want a shrewd business man i don't need mary poppins in there Right? Right. I don't need somebody to tell me everything's saying.
I know what you're saying. Yeah, it is business.
But it's like you want a shrewd business, man.

I don't need Mary Poppins in there, right?

I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay.

I need just like, I need somebody to make our fucking food safe.

I need somebody to make our streets safe.

And that's all I really need.

I feel like if I'm paying taxes, then those are the things that I should expect at my FDA and at my police department, which I'm paying for, are going to be able to make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children. I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I already feel, you know, that's what I feel like people want.
I don't care about anything else. Yeah, I think most people feel the same way.
They just want to be safe and happy. RFK Jr.
tweeted something. See if you can find that.
Well, Adam McKay had a great tweet. But RFK tweeted like a message to...
The thing you sent me yesterday? What? Is it the RFK one? Yeah. It was long, right? Yeah.
Yeah. What's the matter, bro? It's having the worst day today, man.
I got it right here if you want it, Jamie. I got it.
Sorry. Being a What's the matter, bro? We're just having the worst day today, man.

I got it right here if you want it, Jamie.

I got it.

Sorry.

Being a downer.

No, you're not being a downer.

This wasn't it.

That's it.

I'm sorry, man.

Look at that.

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This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine vitamins clean food sunshine exercise nutraceuticals and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma if you work for the fda and are a part of this corrupt system i have two messages for you number one preserve your records and number two pack your bags whoa that's what's crazy about trump winning that's what's crazy yeah that's the thing i like and then you got this people like tulsi that's you know that's that's the type of person you want congresswoman yeah for eight years like impeccable character and then you've got vivek who's a genius you got jd vance who's fucking well. Oh, he's great.
So you have a bunch of good people with him this go around. Well, yeah, it's like...
We've got to get people off each other's necks, man. That's what we've got to do.
We've got to get people to stop attacking each other. It's so crazy.
Well, I felt a sense of like, even after the election was over, I felt like people, everything just felt kind of calm. Yeah.
Well, it's a team thing, dude. It's like your team lost.
It really is. It's these people that are super addicted to politics.
They're like people who don't follow sports. Yeah.
Never played any games. This is the way they compete.
They compete for the most important thing. Like who gets to dictate the tone of the country.
right? Right. I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life.
You know, even when I was a kid I didn't you know my mom told us don't ever depend on the government for anything, you know, it's like You just you have to do it. You just have to figure it out, you know, yeah like they used to have some rich dude or whatever like Like our street it would like cut between like the highway and like this other road where people would go.
And so they had a guy who was like a veterinarian or whatever. And he would go down our street.
He would stop and throw out like these like he was a veterinarian. And he would throw like animal carcasses into our ditch and shit.
Right. So we Jesus Christ dead cats and shit yeah dead animals you know different animals nothing really uh i would say medium size you know probably 32 waist and lower right right he would throw those bitches out into the fucking i guess just get rid of them and our neighborhood was like the poor neighborhood so it's like who gives a fuck about these people right asshole totally but we just throw them on the streets throw them in the ditch But we call the police and they'd be like yeah We'll help and they would never come you know, and my mom was like don't ever I remember telling us do not ever expect the Government to fucking help you do anything you have to do shit yourself, you know Also cops don't want to take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag like that's not what they they signed up for.
I don't know. Let's see what kind of animal is this.
It was this veterinarian. He would just throw those bitches.
After they died or whatever after they after the bones got blanched by the sun, we would fucking throw throw you know do like games or shit but nothing what you know throw at each other you fucking you guys are throwing bones at each other yeah fucking six rib cages there yeah you're fucking bro welcome to haiti dude it was probably why you don't get sick a lot you got immunized by the all the bacteria and finding dead animals it got we yeah i mean we had a good time But nothing like that snake had in that ditch. Bring that thing back up, dude.
I wonder how many fucking kids that get helicopter parented get allergic to more shit because they don't get exposed to things. They're not crawling around, playing in dirt and shit.
All that stuff's probably got to be good for your body right when you're little kids especially playing in dirt playing outside

Oh, yeah, if you're just sheltered or whatever. Yeah, just for your biome.
It's got to be good for you

You know trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever

You know I gotta ask my mom I guess

Yeah, that snake was crazy. That's the crazy thing to me man is seeing a snake eat something like that Do you know how many snakes there are in the Everglades? There's more pythons more pythons in the Everglades.
I would guess 150. Oh, no, that's even lower bet I would bet 200,000 500 That's just a rough estimation.
They could be off by a factor of who fucking knows.

They don't really know.

It's dense, dense, dense, dense jungle.

Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like, yeah, it's probably five.

I have this dude in here, python cowboy.

He goes and hunts for him.

He's got a dog, and the dog will find the nests.

Let's just say this.

He's pulling these giant-ass pythons out of nests.

That dog's been sexually assaulted, I bet. I'll say that, dude.
That dog's a psychopath. It's going after something that could easily swallow it.
Dude, that's a 77-pound deer. You see that? Yeah, dude.
That thing is a damn sixth grader, dude. They eat alligators.
That's crazy. This is the crazy thing.
Because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades, 90% of all are missing there's no mammals anymore oh they ate them all they ate them all there's 90 are missing how long does it how long does it take a snake to eat something that big well the thing is the number of snakes like it's the perfect environment for those animals like it's like they just got dropped off in paradise nothing eats them there's There's no crocodiles snakes Yeah, they're living out. So some alligators must eat some of them But how long does it take a snake to eat something look at this 2012 study found that? populations of raccoon had declined ninety nine point three percent opossums ninety eight point nine percent and bobcats eighty seven point five percent since 1997 marsh rabbits cottontail rabbits and foxes Effectively disappeared over that time.
Got it. So they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes But how long does it like I mean it's unbelievable, but how long that's Satan working as well? And how long does it take how long does it take a snake to digest like how long does it take once it gets that deer? That's a good question.
I wonder. I know that...
Is it days or is it weeks? Let's guess. Okay.
A full deer. One week.
I say one week. Oh, that's a pretty good guess.
Because there's antlers and shit and hooves. Yeah, yeah.
Wish I'd guessed that. Do you think they swallow the antlers?

Do they go for the bucks and swallow antlers?

Well, I bet.

Can you imagine swallowing?

You'd feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down.

You'd be like, oh my God, I can't believe I swallowed the antler.

That's going to take forever to break down.

You're just going to be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever.

Oh, everywhere you go, ow, ow. Just the revenge of that deer.
No comfortable way to sleep. What do they do with the antlers, man? Well, they must die.
I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is deceased. Well, the antler is just bone, but it's so pokey.
Like, look at it. I would bet three weeks.
Isn't that the wildest thing nature does, dude? Nature gives them weapons for a few months. This is what happens with a deer.
Okay. And when they stop breeding, these fall off every year.
So you find them on the ground. They call them sheds.
So you can only defend yourself while you're breeding. Exactly.
And it's offensive as much as it's defensive. They run at each other and clash.
You see them fighting. fighting it happens all the time It's pretty fucking cool.
They go after each other and just fuck each other up and yeah, they'll see him sometimes hooked together Yeah, I mean nature's danger and make nature is really blow really Unbelieve what's it? That's the number one person in the world I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together So that clash're clashing antlers, they got locked together. And one of them got eaten by a coyote.
So one was still alive, connected to this body, couldn't get away, while the other one got torn apart by a coyote. And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that, because neither one of them can get away.
The coyotes recognized that they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him, just gutted him. That's like when you're in a threesome but nobody wants to touch you.
He's trying to eat one with antlers and got fucked up. Oh, God.
Oh, it cut his own body open? Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh, my God.
Look at his mouth.

He's got the antlers stuck through his fucking jaw.

I would hate something.

I hate it when people take... Oh, he slid off of it.

Wow.

I hate it when people take a long time to eat, you know?

It went right through them.

But don't you hate that, though?

Like when you're eating and somebody...

You're done eating and they're still eating?

That doesn't bother me at all.

That bothers you?

Yeah.

Why?

That doesn't bother me even a little bit.

Really?

No.

Yeah, like you're at a restaurant and they're done right they're done you have to fucking you're done and they're right still They're still eating yeah Would just talk to them Yeah, but then you cut you feel like you have to pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl or whatever you like No, you're thinking too much. I think it's crazy to sit there and watch somebody eat.

That's fucking... Do you?

Yeah, bro.

Why?

Because, dude, they're eating.

Yeah, but you were eating with them, too.

Yeah, but you're done.

So what?

Now you're just going to fucking look at them?

I'm just going to look at them.

Like, how is it?

Tell me about each bite.

Nah.

Yeah, I just...

I feel like if somebody's already...

I don't like when people eat real slow.

Thank you. Tell me about each bite Nah I don't Yeah I just I feel like if somebody's already If I I don't like I don't like When people eat real slow Okay It makes me nervous Well you should just like Be real clear about that Before you go out with someone Like let's eat it Okay like We can eat together But I got this thing Yeah Like when I'm done You're done Imagine if you look like Super reasonable boyfriend In every other way But you just had this rule when i'm done eating no one eats and she's like well this is bullshit like i know it sounds crazy i can't kick it it's i have a tick i have a psychological problem i can't just sit there so when i'm done eating you have to be done and i don't eat fast i don.
I don't eat fast. But I'm warning you, when that fucking bell rings, all folks throw off the table.
Bone-epa times up, dude. That would be the weirdest thing that you were obsessed with.
You have to end at the exact same time. Last bite.
That kind of shit. Yeah, that would make me.
I just, yeah, that kind of stuff. Little things kind of make me i just yeah that kind of stuff little things kind of make me uncomfortable dude but that uh what else was i thinking about pythons yeah pythons whales or whatever big animals dude it's crazy like how they have all those airbnbs now where it's like you can stay in like a um like a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the podcast.
You know, it's like, like Airbnbs. Bring up some Airbnbs, please, sir.
They've gotten weird. It's like, welcome to this.
It's like, oh, it's like, welcome to this two-story whale carcass down here at Punta Verde, Mexico. They make up, it's like, Punta San.
Every month there's a new Punta in Mexico. You're like, what the fuck are we doing? You renamed the city.
Every time it's like, welcome to fucking Punta Pescado, Mexico. You want to stay in this two bedroom? You can stay in that? It's a potato.
It's a giant potato. What is that? What did they call it? Okay.
Ten weirdest Airbnb listings let you sleep in a shoe, an elephant, and a flying saucer. Yo, let's go to the flying saucer.
Oh, shit. I want to stay there.
That's yours, dude. Bro, if I wasn't married, I'd have the stupidest house.
My house would be one of two things. I'd either have it built into the side of a hill like The Hobbit.
Oh, yeah. That would be kind of dope.
Or I would go would go full spaceship yeah just a house where a 16 year old boy would see it be like dude yeah yeah just appear to the child in you like kid rocks vibe totally rocks but kid rocks white house i maintain is the coolest celebrity house i've ever been it's one of one man it's not just one of one. He's the only one that would even think about doing that.
It's like him and maybe John Daly would build a fucking White House. John Daly's unbelievable, dude.
It's awesome. Every time I go somewhere, every time he's there, an ambulance takes him home.
It's fucking unbelievable, dude. Every time I'm there, it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven, dude.
I'm like, this motherfucker's headed. One time, the ambulance came.
They came in to look for him. He went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with them, bro.
Oh, my God. And they're in the place, and they're like, where is he? There's something everybody loves about the overweight dude who's really good at a game.
Dude, do you see that golfer girl, that smokes the female john daly dude no yeah oh yeah she smokes cigarettes yeah yeah yeah yeah she's hot yeah yeah welcome to love welcome to 1984 it's coming back let's do it let's go because i got to get a damn wife, Joe Rogan. That's your move.
Get yourself a golfer wife. Oh, look at that.
Smoking cigarettes. Looking hot.
Let me see. Ooh, baby.
And smoking in front of everybody, too. Yeah, she just rips darts on the...
Is she from England? Yeah. Ah, there you go.
Puffer McGavin, dude. They over there, they just fucking smoke.
They smoke a lot more over there. Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette.
Oh, yeah I'll smoke that lady. I bet you will sorry.
That's insane. That's how John Daly is like also man.
She could be married I have no idea right don't be rude. Yes, I was you bro.
I don't know. I'm just fucking Everything's high-strung today.
There was a professional pool player I'm on tour at all kid delicious and everybody loved him because he was this big fat dude who played really good. But it was the big fat guy thing that people liked.
Like, oh, you don't have to be a fucking athlete. You don't have to be any good.
You don't have to be a guy eating salads and fucking getting up in the morning doing yoga before you come to the pool hall. No.
This guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was Kid Delicious.
Yeah. There's a great book about him.
John Wertheim, I think his name, Running the Table. Yeah.
Yeah, people love short-term fats, man. There's something about it.
If you know there's a bigger guy and you think he's not going to live long, there's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately. But John Daly back in the day wasn't fat.
He was like an athlete. This is just a lifetime of like living hard.
Oh, he's a fucking. Look at him like right there.
He was a fucking stout dude. Oh, he looks.
No, John Daly is an exceptional guy. Great storyteller.
He's a fucking. He's the Santa Claus of every 7-Eleven I've ever been to.
Look at that hair. And he's a guy that's been playing golf for like how many fucking years now, you know? I don't know.

You know, the feel you must have of that ball playing professional golf for all those years.

Yeah.

He'll hit a 68 in an ICU, dude.

This guy's one of a kind, I feel like.

You know?

Nobody could do it like him.

He's exceptional.

All he drinks is Diet Coke.

Yeah, sure.

He doesn't like water.

Yeah.

He likes things other than Diet Coke. I'm sure, but he doesn't drink water.
No, he's great, man. I'm sure he drinks alcohol, too.
Yeah. Don't you want to stay at this Airbnb? Don't you want to stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in Bend, Oregon? Do you? Don't you want to stay in our tree house? Who built this? Where do I shit? Airbnbs have gotten so crazy.
Don't people rent out like tents and shit? Yeah. They'll supply you the tent and everything like that.
It's just like regular shit. People are like, yeah, we'll go stay there.
Not a bad move if you don't want to set up a tent. I like camping, but I'm too lazy to set up a tent.
I'll just show up at your house. You know, you get them rods and shit.
You got pieces together. It's pain in the butt.
And fucking, it's all like... And you look sad in front of your wife, too.
You're like... And you're tying it down.
Dink, dink, dink. In the ground.
Dink, dink, dink. And then you're realizing you're just sleeping in a little cloth house.
Yeah. Out in the woods.
Oh, hey, bunny. Yeah, there's an Airbnb tent.
That's nice, dude. That's probably in Austin.
You can fuck in this tent bro. Fuck.
Yeah You ever did a lot of fucking outdoors or what was your life? Like fuck it's the way to go. I ain't scared of mosquitoes I'm an outdoor fucker whenever possible did you ever do any when you were younger Joe? Yeah, he stuck away in the woods me and this one girl.
We were fooling around the woods We never got to the actual sex part. We got close.
We alive by mosquitoes we tried to get naked outside and so like literally our whole body so it's covered in mosquito bites it was horrific we all near a stream or was it more landlocked it was near a river yeah yeah it was near the charles river my guy yeah kids would just go into the woods you know we'd always find kids drinking in the woods yeah you know like we lived in an area i lived area. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts when I was in high school.
And Newton is a great town, like a really cool area. And where I lived, which is called Upper Falls, there was all these like woods and trees and shit.
And the river was right across the street from my house. And it was like there was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boombox and smoking cigarettes.
It was like the outsiders. It was really interesting.
And then one kid would get a car. Like, oh, shit, Bobby's got a car.
Oh, it was the best, dude. Bobby's driving us around.
Rockford Foskate's in the trunk, just coming down the street. Dude, to this day, one of my favorite cars, I have a 1970 Chevelle.
You own it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bring it up.
I would like to see that. But when I was a kid, before I had a car, my friend picked me up in his buddy's car.
I didn't know the other dude. I met him from school or something like that, but I didn't know him.
And he picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle. It was black with white stripes, and it was perfect.
And I remember I saw it, I was like, how does he own this? How can you own this? Yeah. That's how I felt.
I was sitting in the backseat of the car, I was like, this car is so crazy that you could own this car? And I remember he ran out of gas, but coasted right into the gas station and stopped the car in front. It was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen in my life.
There's nothing better. The guy owned that car somehow.
As a 16-year-old boy, I was looking at this car going, how? How did you do this? How did you do this? Let's see it. No.
That's a different car, Jamie. That's my 1970 Barracuda.
I don't think the 70 Chevelle is on anywhere, but it's just a Google black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes. Dude, there's nothing like running out of gas and coasting to the fucking pump.
Mine looks almost exactly like that, but that's exactly like this this kids looked when he picked me up and I got a ride in his car I was like this that's a 69. That's another amazing car But that one up the upper one in the middle.
That's my that's my actual car. That's my car.
Oh wow. Yeah, dude I love that thing That's my favorite.
I think at all of them. I love it so much It just because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16-year-old kid, and this guy had this car.
I was like, how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car? Yeah. Oh, that was great.
Dude, if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car, it was like getting into somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling

You couldn't believe it. Yeah, you were like the things that we completely take for granted

Like your buddy picks you up and give you a ride like hey, what's up?

How's it going on? It's normal for you now like I'm just sitting in my friend's car, but back then it was like whoa

Whoa how did what do you yeah? Hey play something cool on the radio everything meant something i remember my friend mike was taking flying lessons when i was in high school and uh i went up in an airplane with him when i was 14 we were both 14 and he was taking flight lessons when i was like what the fuck i'm letting this 14 year old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor. Yeah, but back then, like, you would just do shit.
You would be so thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You'd hop in your buddy's backseat.
You're like, where are we going? I don't know, man. We're going to go to Bobby's house.
All right, you're listening to songs on the radio. You couldn't believe you were in a car.
Yeah, and it mattered like if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seatbelt was on, if your arms were over the seat. You want to look cool.
Yes. You want to look cool.
You got one hand on the steering wheel, one hand out the window. And you thought everybody you drove past looked at you.
What's up, kids? Yeah. How you doing? Yeah.
What's up, kids? Just looking just looking for some I remember

When I was in high school, there's this one dude who was like He I think he was a couple of years older than us and he graduated But he was dating a girl that still went to the high school and he had an I rock Z You do Maro with the t-tops or now Yeah, of course.

Come on, bro.

She's got to have the T-Tops.

And this dude pulled in front of the high school and everybody like couldn't believe it He was like the coolest guy alive look at him in his irock Z picking up the girl that none of us can date We Yeah Gotta fucking remember that shit dude. I remember my brother one time fucking I got more of the story sorry go on that dude who had that irock ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles just tried to like get the body out from under his car a couple times but couldn't do it but just kept driving so driving around this irog z with a person stuck under the car driving for miles i hate that kind of stuff you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever yes that's different i'm joking yeah i feel like i feel like if you drive over someone maybe pull over hey maybe pull over but pull over.
But I don't know. Pulling over.
Dude, what do you do at that point? There's like guys that you hear about from high school. It's like you feel like you're in a Stephen King book.
Yes. Like Stand By Me or something like that, you know? Oh, totally.
Everything felt like kind of had the Stephen King vibes back then, you know? Well, people just disappeared back then, and there was no phones, and there was no internet. And barely Remembered people if you didn't see him for a month.
Yeah, like you didn't even have a picture I have like five pictures of my friends from high school, you know And mostly because my friend Jimmy sends them to me, but it's like you don't remember you don't remember what anybody looked like You don't remember anything but now Too much now, you know everything but back then it's like you would hear about this like one of your one of the guys you went to high school with he got in trouble and like oh no now he's in jail whoa like todd's in jail yeah whoa i remember i met this one dude who just got out of jail yeah he was friends with my friend the first guy i ever met that was in jail and he had just the weirdest vibe i had a buddy of mine who actually was a training partner of mine who was one guy he was like this one way and then he went to jail on a drug charge and he came out like three years later he was a totally different person oh wow he was super jacked i don't know if they were he was doing steroids or what but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous And he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the the fights that he had gotten into in jail And he gotten like almost like a fight to the death with a mop stick in this guy He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just Changed him man I mean I'd never experienced something like that before where I knew a guy before he went to prison. And then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with.
Like very dangerous. Like he would try to kill you.
We would have wars. Like they weren't really sparring matches.
They were fights. Yeah, some people got dangerous, dude.
Especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear you know this guy this guy I think was both I think he was on He was on gear and I think he was doing coke because I know he was selling he was selling coke I know he's getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up dying, but here's here's where it gets really crazy While I knew this guy like like while he was training at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, I think he was an informant.
They found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones. so from him blacking out from the pain they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer i think then they i think they cut his hands and his head off too and uh he got somehow or another he got implicated or at least questioned about that i was, yeah Imagine even be in the other room while that's going on Yeah, you know even try to watch a show or what I like are just like here Like keep it down Can't you guys insulate your torture house? It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood.
Yeah, I mean what the fuck dude, dude? I would never be able to torture somebody, I don't think. I would be able, I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody.
You might be able to do it if someone did something to your loved ones. I think you'd be surprised what a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children.
Her children, yeah. And a father, too, huh? Oh, yeah.
But, I mean mean even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being like violent And do you think that's a choice they make or you think it's something that's just inside inside of you and you there's a choice Too but it's inside of you is like we have instincts to protect our kids, you know, and you could get crazy violent Yeah, and normal regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children Well, and it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children Killing their own children. Yeah, there's always been that man.
There's always been evil people But it's just come crazy. You know people have children.
Yeah, man There's people that poison their kids. There's this this is evil people out there and in every You know stretch of the world you're gonna get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn't come out right you know and that's normal it's like everything there's always a percentage that's just not right yeah there's all well whatever that struggle that the human race is involved in is if you wanted to break it down and I just philosophically it's essentially a struggle between good and evil always it's always a struggle between good and evil.
And you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome. And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small, but I think it enforces this idea to do good.
And that good conquers evil if everybody works together cooperatively. But you need something.
If you don't have resistance, it feels like people, the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives, we're always trying for progress, right? I think that's all sort of tied in to competition, and competition needs a foe. You need an antagonist and a protagonist.

You need resistance.

And I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world.

The fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love.

And it motivates people to stop evil.

And it motivates people to limit evil.

You know, like the calls for law and order in this country, like during the riots.

Remember when everybody was like, we need law and order.

We need law and order. You can't have just people breaking into things like, we need law and order.
We need law and order.

You can't have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order.

Like that kind of stuff.

It's like that's good versus evil.

It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died unjustly.

That's crazy.

You're just using this as an opportunity to say fuck everyone.

You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that Yeah, you just you can't have that so like when you encounter These different things it makes you appreciate not having those things so it motivates you One of the things that got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit.
He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, increase all the things that make people feel good about the future.
Will give you purpose. Yeah.
And they didn't feel that way about the message that they were hearing from the other side. They felt like it was going was gonna be more of the same shit and more of the same shit doesn't get anything done We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't want to be involved in yeah Shut it down shut down everything.
It doesn't have to do with us. I feel like for a while It's like there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country, you know, yeah That's the biggest thing I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group you know and that could be like um you know everything from uh native american times slavery times opioid epidemic there's tons of things i feel like that it's like and i don't know how you do that i mean i know time has a lot to do with it but it's like i just don't know if sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it's like we could Try at least Trump thinks he can helps these overseas conflicts I don't know if he can but the the point is like something has to be done We can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves.
That seems crazy And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves Well, we're not spending the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have well yeah it's like even if you look at like um you know recently i learned sorry recently i learned that like um the number one cause of medical debt is insurance uh is um medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right?

Is it really?

Yeah, that's crazy.

It's crazy that there's just such a laundering system that goes on.

It's money laundering.

Between hospitals and insurance companies.

Yeah, there's definitely,

I mean, if you talk to Brigham Bueller from Waste Well,

he'll explain to you.

Yeah, I just went there the other day.

He's the man.

I went to Kuya and I went there, dude.

I've been trying to get well while I'm here. Try to get well.
It's been tough. What were we just talking about? Medical debt.
Medical debt. Yeah, he'll explain it real well.
It's like, it's a, you know, it's kind of a fucked up system. But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt.
Because you're out of work. Because you've got a medical issue.
Then you have medical bills. If you don't have insurance, you're really fucked.
have insurance you're really fucked You don't insurance like woo But it's just a scam like the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries just things that it's like our government Doesn't want to make better deals because there is this middleman that's making a lot of money off of it You know there's that you know, there's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money. I don't know a lot.

And also companies that we need.

Pfizer makes good stuff.

I mean, these companies make really beneficial drugs too.

Yeah.

But it's just the problem with all these fucking people is they just want to make more money constantly.

And if they can get you taking more pills than you need, they will.

That's how they sell.

They want to sell pills.

They can come up with a reason.

Aren't you anxious?

I am a little. Hey.
Here you go go and next thing you know you're dependent Yeah, it's like you have two legs you ever been on a bicycle like the things are just crazy, you know Itch yeah You ever had oatmeal raising cookies you're like well fucking this is me. I think we can't let them advertise That's we're still gonna buy the drugs with the the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media, too.
It affects what people are allowed to investigate. It affects what the news is because the news is not going to give you everything.
They're going to conveniently ignore things that would affect their partnerships. Yeah.
If you have a – Yeah, it's all advertising. Yeah.
What did we say it was again of billions of dollars? They spend every year on advertising pharmaceutical drug companies did you um Were you Were you nervous about endorsing Trump or no? I Usually try to stay out of it. Yeah, but I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and Every there's quite a few people I didn't think it makes a difference I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place yeah in my opinion I just I'm not buying like you know when we're talking about before with the way the country feels like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky because regardless of what you thought about his policies what he didn't place it was real clear something was wrong with him and they were lying to us oh yeah but that so that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy right even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction the economy is moving in the right general direction even if you agree to those things when you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously some in some way compromised there's something going on something going on that they don't want to admit and everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things that don't make sense and something's wrong.
So everybody feels uncomfortable, even if everything's going well. Right.

Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country. And the tone for the last four years was confusion.

So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk There's word salad and then you know There's like these moments where it seems like she doesn't doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence Which can just be nerves it could just be nerves talking from a large groups of people doesn't mean she's not brilliant It doesn't it really doesn't some people yeah She was new and kind of thrown into it but some people clam up when they have to do those things but then there's the argument that's the job though you have to be able to do that because you're gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and you know presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world you got to be able to handle pressure so that's kind of part of it too kind of part of it too is you got to be able to handle pressure But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic, you know And that then that's the tone of the country and the tone of the country is not like the Tone of the Obama administration I always felt was the best because he was measured never attacked anybody was very Articulate and smooth smooth. There was not a lot of ums and ah like some people they trump throws too many extra words in but it's just his flavor his flavor is he rambles he goes all over the place like i joke look at this hair what is wrong with my hair he makes fun he's like doing stand-up up there obama was the smoothest and clinton clinton was pretty fucking smooth too maybe clinton and obama those are the goats.
So, like, when you get a person, for good or for bad, that's smooth and talks like a professional, like an actual president, it makes everybody like, oh, he's got this. This guy's a real professional president.
Like, look at him. With Trump, you're like, I hate Taylor Swift.
Like, no! Don't do that! Don't say that! Yeah, that yeah you know the wrong button today buddy he tweeted out that this is that lady that he allegedly slept with was uh he called her horse face why was the president it's so crazy to do it's fucking unreal but for a lot of like super sensitive people and progressive people that's why they want to believe that he's Hitler right they want. Right.
They look at these things and then they don't look at it as like a flavor in the soup.

Like, look, it's all pepper.

No, it's not all pepper.

Like pepper is a part of it.

Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet, I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever.

Yeah.

What's important is like what is he going to do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems?

Yeah.

And can he do it? And can he keep all these people in his staff, RFK Jr.? I don't know. I don't know if he can do it.
I'm curious. But if he can, at least we have hope.
If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the corruption in the system. It'd be exciting.
It'd be good for people. If we stop putting ingredients in foods that are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous,

how about we stop doing that here?

Seems like a logical thing.

It's not like Froot Loops in Canada sell that less.

It's probably equal sales.

And people would get unaddicted quick.

You're really just getting people addicted to things.

I don't even understand.

And how about we prosecute that fucking Sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country?

How about that?

How about that?

How about that?

Well, you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity.

Huh?

They were trying to buy immunity.

They were going to have like a settlement where they give x amount of billions of dollars but then they were immune to prosecution but isn't that what they did though but i think what happened was they put a pause on that after the netflix documentary came out wow and that was we talked about it once but i don't know where it's at now that family, they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opioids. Un-fucking, this family is mass murderers.
If they, anybody with the last name, they should, I don't give, kick that gene pool out of our fucking country. Those people are fucking murderers, dude.
I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit. And do you know that that was the same family that was involved in Valium? Yeah.
I do know that. Mother's little helper? That was Valium.
That's what ladies in the fucking 60s were taking Valium. Heartless fucking lizards.
Get those motherfuckers out of here. And that's one thing.
That was one of the reasons why I was supportive of Vance. I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing.
And I hope that it'll get... I don't know if he can do anything cuz lobbies are so big now wasn't someone in his family an addict

Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, right now, right, but um, he's just seen it, you know

Sure that the Sacra family was involved in the Valium thing. I don't want to have to edit that out

If I call them a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we weren't a piece of shit about that other thing

I think they were though. I just that's like even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry, you know? Because you don't know the- Sackler family, remember, yeah, Arthur Sackler, a member of the Sackler family, was a major figure in the promotion of Valium through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s.
Yeah, that is it. So, same family.
Yeah. Evil.
Evil. It's literally evil.
Just destroying lives. It's the devil.
It's it's the devil it's a drug dealer it's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors you're sneaking around under the you know this this guise of authority well one of the problems is that the say if you work for a politician right in in in dc right they can only pay you so much money by law to work with them and be like, help put their bills together. Right.
So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who have been writing bills for the congressmen and for the senators. So they then go to work as lobbyists.
That's one of the biggest problems. Right.
So a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries, right?

And that we also have a law that

we also don't have a law that

stops people once you work for one side

that you can't work for the other. Right, right.

That's the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical drug companies.

And I'm not saying that there's, I don't know the answer.

I'm just saying that that's one of the

things, that's one of the reasons why that happened.

It's a conflict of interest. Right.
For sure.

And it's just, nobody regulated

it. They allowed it to happen.

It should be if you're working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money. That seems like a conflict of interest.
If you had conversations with these people and they'd say, listen, you're nice to us in a couple of years, golden parachute. You want a yacht? I think you need a yacht.
And next thing you know, you're a millionaire, which is bizarre that you can do that. It's just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress.
You know that a bill is going to get passed. You know this bill is going to affect the stock.
You gamble high on that stock bill gets passed and you make a lot of money that seems illegal that seems illegal yes cheating that seems crazy but there's a lot of those things man and this this system was set up by people and people are flawed right that's a good point yeah it's like nothing no one's going to do anything perfectly i don. Well, it's not just that accountability and transparency in terms of like what's actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now.
Like anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this. Like there's just it's you don't have to look in The New York Times anymore Right, you know You don't have to wait for the news to come on at 5 now you get it whenever you want it And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with so for the longest time Even though there's rules and the Constitution set up in the Bill of Rights There's been people that have had a lot of power For a long time without a bunch of people looking at them and now more people are looking at them than ever before and then you get this guy like trump comes in like fbi the crooked bro what are you doing you're going to war with the cia he's like that drunk uncle dude bro what about baron trump dude nobody there's no credit like whatever you think about this election i the whole thing to me is fascinating first of all because dana white made so much stuff happen oh yeah right dana white made the trump thing happen for sure he was a he was trying to get me to have trump on in like 2017 bro you would hear rumors of that in the distance bro he would call me up he called me up joe listen the president wants to do your podcast i go you mean trump i gotta change the name of it what are you doing man why are you trying to get me in trouble you know and back then i was like i don't want to be a part of this there's too many people were angry too many people pissed off i was like i don't need to and i didn't pay attention to it enough i didn't pay attention to um the the way they were Misrepresenting things that he had said enough.
Yeah, I didn't really I my wake-up call was when they went after me when CNN went after me I was like yeah, this is crazy. I'm taking veterinary drugs bitch.
Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dump also Why are you upset that I got better quick? Like what is this about like that? I took veterinary drugs and got better quick and why in the article hey well when you herald it say hey this could be a possibility you know it's like not only that it's just the there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans those people are it's all but when I saw that and that was so minor in comparison the way they've come after Trump because they come up to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit and I don't think he's a perfect person I know he's fun and I think he's a very competitive guy Which is why he likes playing golf so much and it's why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again And he pulled it off. Yeah, and the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is It's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together And And I think we should all have that mentality.
This idea that we're all separate, we're on Team USA. And I think we should just like all publicly state, nobody gives a fuck where you're from, what you do.
You're on Team USA. We're all in this shit together.
That's it. Oh yeah.
That's it. Let's forget about all this identity politics nonsense and all nonsense.
But is that going to happen, you think? At least we can put that thought out there instead of everyone's racist, everyone's a Nazi. Yeah.
That ain't helping nobody. You're just pushing people further and further away.
The people that used to identify as left, they've been forced to these sort of center-right positions just to maintain normalcy. When you're giving puberty blockers to kids and you're opening up gender-affirming care clinics and treating kids, like, shut the fuck up.
You're not on the right side. You think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate.
What you're doing is crazy to most people, and we don't want it. And we think you might be, like, in like you're it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things and they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society like the no cash bail thing like things you think are good you know structural racism is why there's so many people in prison right yeah but you just let people out to shoot people right you can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street.
You can't have that. You can't have that.
You'll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive. And you'll be under chaos.
You'll be like living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. You can't just keep this trend going.
You're going to fall apart. And it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen.
These people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done But it can be done that put you know that there's there's a version of all of these different communist philosophies You can imply there's socialism that could work, right? There's a version of it that can work and make it more equitable for everybody But the end of that is always one thing it's It's control over what you say and do because as soon as you want to redistribute funds As soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore, then you're gonna have to take it from them Yeah Well, I think like to me everything kind of started to feel like this privatized communism, right? Like yeah, once the post office didn't work. I was like the government's fucked dude I was like these bastards can't even get a package to fucking toledo in two days dude you know like but the problem with the post office is that there's like ups now right but it but you go in there dude it's like a western they're serving liquor at the counter like it's definitely yeah it's the post office it's gone it's gone downhill they have liquor i mean they don't but you could probably score a gram up there at the cat.
Like, it's gone. You know, the doors, there's no hinges.
Really? Dude, it's the Wild West over there. Which post office are you going to, bro? Every post office, bro.
All of them are bad? Bro, 75% of the post offices are, it's gotten, but I just use that as an example of like a government, just like started to fall apart right last time I saw a post office was the last election That was the last time I went to a post office. Well, yeah last election when I mail in my California ballot Yeah, and how many 20 million of them apparently How many And at that time was there a saloon? What that like at least cause for concern that leap in numbers yeah what is it now Jamie do we know what the official numbers are now the California one hasn't really I don't know why hasn't updated more they're digging in their heels they don't want to make the election real I don't think either one of these parties is what the people say like Democrats They're not the same parties.
It was 15 years ago. Most people are waking up to that That's why if you look at the map of California new going on look at the map of California red and blue from 2016 and then look at it from or rather 2020 and then 2024 There's a giant difference a job.
I mean a giant difference a giant difference in the amount of counties that went red It's just big population centers are always gonna be blue they're they're in the trance if you're in San Francisco and if you're in Los Angeles you're in the trance like 70% of those people are in the trance there's this they also believe things that mean something to them so they're not like because right but socially they're connected to all these ideas you know And socially,'re all like hyper liberal they're socially locked into like this mindset it doesn't allow questioning narratives doesn't allow questioning these ideas so like the idea of questioning science was like there's no way you're we're a science denier yeah I could be a science you couldn't even say like hey are you sure that these companies who have been lying their entire careers? They've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for lying. We know they lie you sure they're telling you the truth about this drug when they haven't injected Giant swaths of the population with it before but they're gonna do it now.
Yeah, and they promise it's gonna work Yeah, and then they're lying about the promises. They're lying about whether it stops transmission.
They never even tested for that. They're lying for whether or not it stops you from being infected.
They didn't test for that either. Well, the same people that own this own the publication company.
It's just starting to be so obvious. It's like, I don't know.
But it's just money, man. It's just money.
Right. And it's like, at what point does money mean something over the fact of somebody's peace of mind in health and wellness? Like, that's the thing I don't understand.
Because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology. So this is what it is.
If you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it's not even really a vaccine, I mean, you're calling it a vaccine, but that's kind of a sneaky move because it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does.

It works completely novel. It's a completely new thing.
And if you can connect that with the people that's the logical, educated people that are reasonable and convince them that you can't look at it sideways. You can never examine it.
You can never question it. You never question whether or not it's even necessary.
You just have to go with it. You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them.
You can't. You got to reject that because you have that emergency use authorization thing.
That wasn't cool, man. I never took it.
And guess what? Doing great. You know? Yeah.
I'm suffering from depression. Yeah.
Had a lot of issues and back pain today.

But yeah.

You are suffering from depression.

Cry online a lot.

But still.

You're not hanging around with us.

Come hang out here, man.

Come move.

I know.

This year's been busy, man.

I want to.

Bro, if you lived in town, you'd be hanging out all the time.

I know.

You'd feel better.

You'd feel better.

You need a little community.

I know you, dude.

You get weird.

I think.

When you're by yourself too long, you get weird. Oh, and I spend a lot by myself, you know, I said you called a check to see if people still like you Did I do that? Yeah, fuck That's most of my childhood did I really do that Yeah, I believe about what are you talking about? Man, just want to make sure we're cool.
No, I believe that like of'm like, of course we're cool. Like, what are you talking about? What happened? Nothing.
Just we ain't talked for a while. Wow.
Did I really do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe you 100%.
Yeah, it was a weird conversation. Fuck, that's a story in my life, dude.
Calling people to make sure we're okay. Yeah, but I know you, man.
So when you call me, I'm like, oh, 3-0 just needs some love. You're out there in the woods by yourself.

You can't be alone, man.

Well, I think part of me I wanted to do – I've always just wanted to do my own thing.

But then you start to realize that there's – that you – yeah, you're doing it by yourself.

And I think that goes for whether it's work relationships or personal relationships too. I think it's just like it's been the same psychology for me.

I'll think – I never even thought about this.

I'll see, I never even thought about this. I'll think to myself, I want to be in a relationship, but I want to do it on my own.
I just realized that, dude. That's amazing.
But that's how, there's something, it's just like. Well, you can marry yourself.
People do that. I would hate that, dude.
I'm always just chasing myself, trying to jerk me off. I wouldn't get any sleep, dude.
Oh, that'd be a nightmare. That would be a real problem.
Yeah, man. I do want to be around a group more.
This year's has been it's like doing it by yourself but you are doing it by yourself right so you're doing your podcast by yourself you're doing it you stand up by yourself the thing about like a club is you're doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves right so you're around the same but you're hanging out you're having fun you're you're charging up your love batteries yeah that's is Yeah, oh the other night even just be in there be able to laugh with Tony and like like Ron white was right there. You got Brian Simpson You got Kurt Metzger everybody's just watching and dancing and figuring things out And then then the fucking Kurt would corner you with them conspiracies, bro.
Did he ever get you? did he get you? yeah bro he drowned me he took me in a rabbit hole he was a listener dude it was an underwater river he held me under bro he took me fucking I go Kurt I don't even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about. You don't know about that? You don't know about that one? He's like, Jesus, Kurt.
And he's this giant dude, so he's like looming over you with conspiracies in his fucking crazy eyebrows. He's like, you don't know about the Vanna White conspiracy? You don't know what's behind the E's? You don't know what's behind the E's? Here's the thing, dude.
He's one of a kind. Jimmy Dore's cool, huh? I got to see him for years, but I've always been kind of admirable about him.
He's a great dude. Before he started working for Jimmy, he didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head.
He got sort of exposed to all that working for jimmy and doing that show and he was like oh my god this whole fucking thing is rigged and then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole that dude will send you a text and if you send him a text back he will send you a chain of thoughts doctrine yeah like a scroll like i want to save them i want to save them because like that would be a cool almost like a book to publish oh it's text with Kurt people would love that too I love how passionate he is about stuff he's a smart dude man yeah he's very very very smart dude it was fun yeah that was just fun to see who else was there just... Brian Simpson, Asan Ahmad.
Asan was there. Derek was there.
Derek's the best, dude. Because you tell any joke, if it's good or not, you can look at Derek.
And if he's laughing, it's good. Yeah, yeah.
He's just like... He's a great green room hang.
Yes. He'll let you know on his face immediately.
To me, he's the be-all, end-all if something's funny. He's a great person.
be around. He's a funny guy.
That's like the beautiful thing. He's so funny.
He is very funny. That's the beautiful thing about the club is that there's so many nice people.
Yeah. It just, like I said, he charges up your love batteries.
That's what we all need in this world. We all need a little more love, a little more fun.
And I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people. That's what I'm hoping.
I'm hoping that he just, and know people around him want him to do that Just concentrate on the positives. Yeah Concentrate on the positives you got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people and then you will be remembered as that guy Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on if they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything I wish somebody would just tell us that well I think if anybody's gonna it's him especially now and especially with access to podcasts right so if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that all sudden Trump could probably tell you whatever it's not top secret he could probably tell you he said he's gonna release the JFK files we're gonna find out a lot of this we're gonna find a lot of things we're gonna find out whether and I he's gonna really keep RFK jr.
as a part of his organization or whether he's gonna get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever he loses him dude he's gonna problem that's not cool it's not cool so there's that and then there's is he gonna release the JFK files because he was told that he shouldn't release them that he said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense, because that was 1963. So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age.
Yeah. But what does it mean, though, when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former of the president.

So if that's true, then would it be that they're worried that it would erode all confidence in the intelligence agencies? Or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place? And then people start saying, well, what happened with Martin Luther King? you know because there was one that Mike Baker who's a former CIA guy was saying that one like he investigated for a show. He goes that one doesn't make any sense.
That guy just started getting money. He was a loser his whole life.
All of a sudden he had money. In OK? No, the guy killed him.
Oh, who was it? James Earl Reeves. James Earl Ray maybe? James Earl Ray.
James Earl Ray. So that guy, Mike Baker broke broke it down for us I don't remember exactly but essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter who was a loser You know in and out of jail that kind of a guy and then all of a sudden he has access to money He's staying in a nice place right and he has a gun and like what's going on like he thinks that they set him up To kill Martin Luther King that someone financed that that, which is most likely that makes sense.
Well, back then you could kind of kill somebody and it was easier. You know, think about like the Wild West, right? Like they if you kill somebody, they drew a picture of you.
Right. Wanted.
All you have to do is shave your mustache. Well, that's not him.
I'm looking for a guy with a mustache. You could become this.
Where'd he go? You could become. Clark can't put on glasses.
Where'd he go? He killed my whole family. Where is that? That guy's got glasses.
That can't be him. Bro, you could literally go across the bucket behind a boulder, shave, come back to the

town, get a job as a sheriff, and look for yourself for 20 years.

That's crazy.

Bro, imagine how gross it must have been to come to some fucking weird town.

A brothel back then?

Weird brothel town with a saloon, and you just smell like shit.

You've been riding on the back of a horse for three days, and you just wander into this weird fire-lit community. Did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed? Or not, I don't know how it worked out.
Oh, really? Yeah, you were saying he got a disguise. He got like a nose job.
Oh, boy. But he also got a driver's license, made it to Mexico.
Oh, he's in prison. He used to work at a Kroger's.
Wow. He attempted to establish himself as a pornographic film director.
Using mail order equipment. Who hasn't? Oh, my God.
After a quarter of an eight ball, who hasn't? You sound like a fucking psychopath. He got jilted.
Yeah, he sounds like a bad guy. He considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965.
Wow. Yeah, then nose job.
Yeah. And then went to Atlanta and then very quickly started to yeah decided to do what he did

yeah it's tough man the heat down there is just fucking ruins everybody does drive people nuts especially we got that cat parasite you know then they're all moving around your head like get him out of my brain Have you seen

that show From on Amazon Prime?

I haven't.

Pretty good. You know what I've been watching though on Netflix? What is it? Three body problem.
Have you seen that? I haven't seen it. I've been hearing people say it.
It's really good. It's by the people who made Game of Thrones.
Oh, really? It's really good. It's totally unique.
I don't want to tell you much about it. You don't say anything.
It's science fiction, but it's totally unique. You watch it, and you're going to go, oh, shit.
At first, you're like, what is going on here? Yeah. But after a while, you're like, oh, shit.
I'm on episode four now. Fuck, dude.
And there's not going to be season two for like three years. Yeah, that's how they do some of that shit.
Well, like Stranger Things. Those motherfuckers are making a movie every week.
You know? Right. They're making a one hour movie every week, which is like so much better than a movie.
You know, like Game of Thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed. 100%.
It's so good. And it's just one episode leads into the next one.
Into the next one. Oh, shit, I can't believe she did that.
Oh, fuck, he's dead now. Oh, shit.
Off with his head. Fucking they killed the king in the very first episode.
Unreal. Spoiler alert.
And they handicapped that kid out the gate, remember? Yes, right out the gate. Fuck.
Usually it's the second season before you get a handicapped kid and something. That's what my mind.
That dude was fucking his sister and you didn't want anybody to know.

That's crazy.

But back then there weren't any rules, were there?

I think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister.

I think that that's like back to caveman times.

Right.

I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like, hey, that's not right.

Let's shut it down.

Let's go outside instead.

Well, that's like people always thought about that with rural communities. You know? Well, people say this a lot.
I mean, I'm from obviously Louisiana and people say, you know, they're always like, Hey, you know, you ever fucked your sister? Yeah. Yeah.
And the thing, what happened was people didn't live close to each other. So if you, you're not going to travel, you're only going to travel so far to are you advocating for fucking sisters fuck no i'm not what are you saying it seems like that's what you're doing no i'm saying this is what happened back then people aren't going to people aren't going to get a train ticket to come you know they're gonna people are only going to have sex within a certain distance of their right good call right that's why it happened right you It it's like if a guy it's like there's no one there right there's nobody there so they had to fuck their sister they didn't have to but at a certain point they got lost and ended up back at right by the house you know like something's gotta happen here i'm not saying it's cool i'm just trying to tell you how it works out like.
Well, that's how it certainly works out in the mammal kingdom. If you have puppies, the boy puppy will fuck his sister.
Yeah. 100%.
He doesn't even think twice. He'll try to fuck you.
They'll try to fuck your leg. They don't even know what they're doing.
Oh, yeah, dude. I was sitting at my buddy Brad's house one night, right? We're dead asleep, right? And they let a bunch of puppies loose, dude.
Those things are fucking gangbanging you. I didn't have a chance, dude.
I didn't have a fucking ounce of milk on me. Those things are fucking sucking me off, bro.
Isn't it funny? We don't think that about people. Right.
It's crazy how it goes from animals to people, man. Yeah, we're animals.
We're animals. Do you think there's a certain purpose for us? Like there's a magical purpose for us? Or do you think we are just an anomaly? Well, I think even if there's not, this is a magical time.
It's an interesting time. And especially for people like us, they get to talk to so many fascinating people.
I mean, we have a really cool job, not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts. And I think you've got a great education Doing that, you know a great like you're you seem more introspective You're more curious about things than you know I remember before you like I think it did the same thing to me really yeah Yeah, I almost feel like I know I wish I didn't know more stuff sometimes.
I miss knowing nothing right? Yeah, it make any sense to you for sure. I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don't need Oh, yeah, you're a library dude But you know the the thing more like a red box where you rent that one movie I haven't been doing it as long.
I've been doing a lot longer. That's all it is It's just no it's the amount I do to its numbers, but you're a you have a you are you are a library You know, there's certain types of people that can make it through certain things.
You wouldn't want to educate a child on this library. This is not a library you'd allow everybody to have access to.
No, it's 16 and older, I think. There's a lot of stuff in my head.
I was like, God, I wish I didn't know that about people. You know? Oh, that's interesting.
You don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have like a memory that records so much well it's just you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people and so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific you're always like the back of your head always has but maybe that could happen happen. You know? Like, so it always sits there.

It always sits there.

If you're a completely,

you grow up Amish or some shit,

you're like completely removed from society,

you never see any violence,

you never see anything.

And then all of a sudden you have to go to a bar,

like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night,

you see fist fights and people throwing glasses at each other.

Yeah.

You'd be like, what the fuck is this?

I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this.
You know? Right, but if you know that exists, then it's always a possibility. So if you see it too much, even if you don't see it in real life, the worst thing is seeing it in real life.
That's what we were talking earlier about cops. Cops are seeing it every day in real life.
So you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead.

Super accustomed to seeing people get injured.

Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like $150 an hour, right?

Right.

But cops who are basically therapists that also have to shoot at people make $40 an hour.

I know.

Like that's crazy when you think about that. It's crazy.
And nobody wants that job. It is crazy.
But if you paid them like heroes, I feel like that they would more fucking gladiators would show up and do it. Yeah.
And they would have a real force out there, you know? And you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking care of your fucking community. Yeah.
Do you think that's possible or not? Some people don't want to know that we need that. They don't want to kind of believe that you need like masculine, dangerous men to protect you.
But that's always been the case. And if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world, it exists.
There's no utopian spot. So violence and crime exists.
There's only one way you can shield the nonviolent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals, and that's dangerous men. You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable.
That's what you need. It doesn't mean they should be running everything.
It means you need 100% protection from dangerous people. Then here's the number one thing that nobody addresses You got to figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year Being dangerous where no one's doing shit about it.
No one's trying to fix it. No one's trying to enhance it No, there's no one's trying to like recognize like do you know much? Income we're losing because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society you much damage it's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever drug dealing any anything that can come out of that and do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system and how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society and it's a success story the that's not impossible to do but there's been no effort no like engineering large scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country and not like make everything the same and.
That's not possible but there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's Unmanageable you should never be that poor if you're a part of a community You're a part of a community that takes care of everybody There's no reason why you have 175 billion dollars to ship to Ukraine But you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty. Yeah, get fucked when that kind of shit happens.
They shouldn't be helping these other countries. I don't know why we send money to Israel, Ukraine.
I just don't understand why we – there's just people suffering here. Right.
You know? There's people that have been taken advantage of in our own country, and it's like you don't want to be selfish, but if you don't take care – if you don't know your inventory, then your business is going to fail.

Right. Right.
That's a, that is, that is a law. If you don't take stock of your own inventory, your business will fail.
And we don't have stock of our own inventory and we don't have a healthy inventory. You know, it's like, it's just like, I don't understand how it's so, I don't, the weird thing is I start thinking, is that a radical idea? It didn't used to be a radical idea

But it became a radical idea

When people I don't the weird thing is I start thinking is that a radical idea? It didn't used to be a radical idea, but it became a radical idea when People started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil. All capitalism is bad There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.
I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're going to get to some weird point where Money seems like it's just ones and zeros.
It's just numbers and it's a bottleneck The bottleneck of information right because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money Then where's the money go? Yeah, that's crazy But if we get to this point where we evolve past the state We're at now where you can't trust people to not steal your money or you can't trust people to not lie Where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit if human beings can eventually get to a place like that Then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money or when everybody has the same amount where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and like prestige in the community have the bigger house the bigger if that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind I could see where we could equally share resources. Yeah, but we're that's like Either a cyborg or a million years in the future.
I'm talking about like where we get past All of our primitive cave people Instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything is the cause of almost all of our problems is who we are innately It's just our programming is fucked. Yeah, there's our programming is the same Well, you know this there's there's some variations that have occurred over time, but reasonably similar I should say to people that lived 10,000 years ago.
Uh-huh So if you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you put them in a t-shirt like this and sat them in the movie theater You wouldn't be able to tell it would just look like us. Nuh-uh.
Yeah. Yeah So really you think 100% yeah I mean they might have been smaller because they didn't give us get as much food, but it look like a small person Yeah, we wouldn't know you wouldn't know they would look just like us So if you just put them in a suit and tie and sat them down there that guy would be like what the fuck yeah and that's basically us so that person if you get a person lives 10 000 years ago the amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time he becomes an adult the amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seen people lit on fire.
That's all inside of us still. Right.
All that programming of like everybody's the enemy and you got to protect the fields and protect the, that is all a part of our programming. And as technology increases and as we become more interconnected, that's going to be one of the biggest problems that we face is Abandoning these bizarre primate characteristics that we still hold on to hmm because they're in our DNA And but they're not managed well like people need to manage them to suppress them and some people Yeah, we try to pretend it don't exist.
Yeah, we try to pretend it'll exist. Sorry.
I stepped on you you. No, no, no.
I've been interrupting you a lot, man. I'm sorry, dude.
No, you're awesome, man. What are you doing? Stop doing that.
Don't apologize. I think it's up to peace.
I'm like, kiddies are starting to think. Well, let's wrap it up.
We've been doing this for three hours. Have we really? At least.
Yeah, it's almost five. It's almost five.
Oh, man. Oh, man.
I love you. I know I'm always trying to get you to move here, but it's because I think you'd be happier here.
And selfishly, I want you around. Well, thank you, dude.
I appreciate it. I appreciate you, too.
No, I want to be around. around this year's just been it's just been uh it's been like every time i'm not doing a podcast i have to like i'm traveling for work or it's like it's just been a busy time hey if we open up another mothership do you think nashville would be a good spot yeah is there enough or would we be fucking with zanies or do you think we would help it no i think it would be good because i think there's enough people there where you could do you have enough comics in nashville how many comics are in nashville there's some gotta have like a base you know like that want to perform all the time right i'll do some recon for you we're thinking we're thinking to go in other spots yeah yeah well that would be cool man because at least i know the area i could i'd be you know thought about going to the most woke place in brooklyn setting up shop the mother if you get i bet it would thrive though well we can find out there's only one way to do it dude wow man i can't believe it's so crazy that i was there to watch the list like the elect just like what a night and was like it was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room we're all hopping back and forth off stage like who's winning i know it was fun man it was so crazy dude drinking diet cokes and just fucking having a good time theo von i love you to death one of my favorite people i appreciate you very much i love, man.
Thanks for being inspiring and thanks for um Yeah, sometimes you would like I would do a podcast episode you would just say you would reach out and say hey, man I like that episode and it just meant a lot. I just want to let you know that it does you're you do a great job, man I really love your show.
I think you got some great interviews and you got a great you got a nice way of being yourself You know when you're talking to anybody that's what I think people really like. They like to see conversations with people who are just being themselves, and the fact that you can do that with Trump, that's fun.
It's inspiring, so it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it.
Well, thanks. Thanks, man.
Yeah, I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire says something nice to them you know it's just nature you know it is

yeah so we like it but i appreciate it man thanks for having me dude my pleasure all right bye

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