Fight Companion - October 26, 2024

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Speaker 1 I was actually thinking about going to Abu Dhabi for this one. Really? Yeah, I was thinking of going on a vacation just just for fuck, just for fun.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But then I found out it was 19 hours on a plane. I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 yo, that's too much. I'll do 10.
Even with a bed, it doesn't matter. Much rather do this.
It don't matter, man. You lose days.
You don't lose a day. You lose days.
Because you're days in a fog.

Speaker 1 After it's over, you're all confused. Your body feels weird.
Your workouts suck.

Speaker 1 That would be the card to do it, though.

Speaker 1 There's one card that would give me to fly whatever it is 19. That's the main fight.
It's the main and co. Yeah, the co's big.
The co's huge. It's big.

Speaker 1 There's so many questions in that fight, man. You know, can Whitaker, if Whitaker can stuff, you remember the third round, Kamaro Usman won the third round.
And that was five rounds? Yep. Yep.

Speaker 1 I would have my money on him. And the fucking, the thing is, he had 10 days' notice.
So he didn't have any trust in his gas tank, you know, and he talked about it.

Speaker 1 You know, they offered him five rounds. He said no.
And then when he was walking and out of lockdown, he goes, I fucked up. Should have done five.

Speaker 1 He said, I fucked up. Should have done five.

Speaker 1 You know, know, 10, maybe that would have really psychologically fucked him if he realized he had to do fucking 25 minutes against Hamzat, who's in top shape.

Speaker 1 But he was getting tired in that third round, and that's Hamzat's thing. He tries to get you out of there.

Speaker 1 Like that shit that he did to Kevin, like you can't, there's no way he could have continued that if he didn't submit him in the first round.

Speaker 1 When he just jumped on him, he went all in, just foot on the gas.

Speaker 1 It's like an electric car. It has 260 miles of range.
No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't. Not a lot of people.
Even at that pace, it's about 100.

Speaker 1 Bro, you take a Tesla around a racetrack, those bitches are burnt out after like two laps.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Oh, really? After one pull.
I didn't know that. Is that two? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know how many laps you could do, but there's no fucking way you're going to do 260 miles. Is there like an indie for Teslas? Like a

Speaker 1 NASCAR thing? But they're the

Speaker 1 fastest car you can buy. If you want to buy a car from a lot, the fastest car you can buy is a four-door like luxury sedan.
Plaid. plaid yeah fastest car

Speaker 1 well they do things around tracks like tracks hydrocross has electric it wouldn't take they wouldn't do like it's just silent and like florida or in the south it would have to be like in seattle right

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 tesla nascar and san francisco the whole thing's so crazy because even though yeah it is the future yeah it's a superior technology The reality is they're getting their minerals from fucking China and they're using cobalt mines in the Congo.

Speaker 1 Like the whole thing's crazy. But the whole thing, you can do both.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Right, but what I'm saying is like to connect that with like, this is the most ethical.

Speaker 1 This is the most environmentally friendly. It's not.
They've got to stop doing that.

Speaker 1 They got educated, yeah. Not only that, do you know that like the environmental pollution from an electric car is significantly more than the because of brake dust?

Speaker 1 Like brake dust is a giant problem. Everybody wants to talk about exhaust fumes.
If you live in New York City, you're breathing in brake dust.

Speaker 1 And they're so heavy that burns. What's the difference between brake dust from a Tesla and like a gas-powered car? It's a heavier car.

Speaker 1 Oh. So Tesla's better because Tesla has regenerative braking.
So when I'm driving my Tesla, if I let off the gas, it slows down like considerably, where I don't even have to use the brake sometimes.

Speaker 1 If I'm driving around town, you could do one-pedal driving. Because as soon as you let off the gas, it slows itself because it regenerates electricity during that process of slowing down.

Speaker 1 So it uses the momentum of the car to extend the battery life. So you don't get as much, but it's still so heavy.

Speaker 1 Do you think like in 20 years, like Teslas are going to be like $1,500 in the recycler or something? No, because you know what? The idea is, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but the idea is.

Speaker 1 They don't do good on recycling. What they're saying is electric cars are the way cell phones.
Remember, we have to carry a big thing, like a big cell phone, like with that.

Speaker 1 So the idea is, yes, it is not environmentally very effective and all that, but it's in its infancy.

Speaker 1 And the idea is you want to keep doing it so there's a breakthrough in material sciences with incentives. You have a source.
But you're still getting

Speaker 1 mining and electric cars are. That's never going to go away.

Speaker 1 But the technology of electric cars is the future in terms of as they get better at it.

Speaker 1 Why is it the majority of the money? Why is it not?

Speaker 1 This is all clean. What's the future? This is all bitches.
Well, this is the thing.

Speaker 1 No, he's totally right because there's a bunch of experimental battery technologies that they're currently working on that are going to be so much better than these lithium-ion.

Speaker 1 They're going to need less slaves. Yeah, we're in the leather helmet.

Speaker 1 We're in the leather helmet. What if it's like robots mining the coal?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's fine. What if they turn on us? But then the slaves make the robots.
Hey, we're going to have that. No, we're going to have that.
So we're going to have to. What if

Speaker 1 you need oil to make the fucking robots?

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 100%. Every piece of plastic we use is made with oil.

Speaker 1 And with AI, the idea is you're going to have robots, and those robots will be on a piece of land.

Speaker 1 So you'll buy the plot of land, and those robots will then mine the materials needed to build a house. So they'll use the actual land that they're on to mine all the materials and build a house.

Speaker 1 That sounds so far away, Doc. But it's

Speaker 1 that far away.

Speaker 1 The robots, I mean,

Speaker 1 the robots I got now, come on, they ain't shit. No, Eddie, it's all artificial intelligence.

Speaker 1 When artificial intelligence becomes sentient and they have quantum computers now, Brian Brian Cox was here the other day and he tried to explain quantum computers. CERN? Yes.

Speaker 1 Trying to explain quantum computers for me. They're so insanely powerful.
You know, the guy from CERN?

Speaker 1 Yes. They're so insanely powerful that they don't even understand what they're doing.
They think that they're pulling information from different universes simultaneously.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about. It's the multi-world theory of quantum computing.

Speaker 1 They showed that they can create wormholes.

Speaker 1 There's evidence of quantum computing

Speaker 1 Yes. Wait, wait, so wait.
So

Speaker 1 one computer is picking up information. They're foolish.
It's like different dimensions.

Speaker 1 They don't even understand exactly what it's doing. But this is the way he explained it to me.
I hope I'm not butchering it.

Speaker 1 But some insane amount of time, like all the seconds that the world has ever existed plus,

Speaker 1 you would need that

Speaker 1 for a computer, a normal computer, to solve a problem that a quantum computer would solve in one second. Do we have quantum computers? Yes, we do have.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 they have quantum computers, but they don't exactly know how to program them now, I think, is the problem.

Speaker 1 They're making computers and they don't know how to program them.

Speaker 1 This is what it is. They're so complex that they want to develop the infrastructure.
The computer is very small, which is really crazy. And we get

Speaker 1 quantum computers. They need money to finish this.
Let me get it. Eddie, settle down.

Speaker 1 The actual chip. The actual chip is very small.
It's like a tiny little, it's smaller than this. The actual chip.

Speaker 1 The whole rest of the thing is insane cooling because in order to operate this you have to keep it at an unbelievably cold temperature like colder than deep space jesus yeah yeah it's you should see it but pull up something on it jamie just so that you can see like the explanation of quantum computing like it's a real thing eddie as much as

Speaker 1 i know

Speaker 1 computers are a real fucking thing you know when you see the reason why you find all this shit on youtube that doesn't make any sense is because computers are a real fucking ass.

Speaker 1 That's what's happening. People can make videos, they compress them, they upload them online.
So this is computing. It's all a real thing.

Speaker 1 Quantum computing is this, but it's through an insanely powerful source. And I can't get service in my fucking business.

Speaker 1 First of all, there's only a couple of these on Earth. They're very difficult to make.
Insane tolerances are not. Super expensive, right?

Speaker 1 Unbelievably expensive, I'm sure. I'm sure people are.
Who pays for it? They're completely. The companies that are making them.
Not the taxpayers? I highly doubt it. There's probably some subsiding.

Speaker 1 Have you seen them stand?

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was the Cox guy or whatever, but

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Speaker 1 That big cylinder in CERN and they're talking about we've discovered 10 dimensions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do need more money.

Speaker 1 Honey, what do you think?

Speaker 1 It's for free?

Speaker 1 You think you can make a quantum computer in your backyard? That's where DARPA fucking lemonade money. You don't think, you don't feel like a little like.

Speaker 1 Listen, the whole thing's crazy because what they're going to do is make a life form that's way smarter than us. It's going to happen.
It's going to happen soon. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 The fact that

Speaker 1 we're going to, yeah, literally, we're marching towards our own demise for sure. There is no fucking way that's not going to happen.
And if good guys can get it, bad guys can get it too.

Speaker 1 That's the issue. 100%.
And they might be getting it quicker. Yes.

Speaker 1 What if this is already a computer? Like, what if we're already in a quantum computer? Damn. Well, that's what Elon thinks.
Well, only rich people. But I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 Only rich people say their computer program is awesome. They're getting their dick sucked, flying around in a rock.
They're a single mom of four at McDonald's and like, we're in a fucking simulation.

Speaker 1 Exactly. That's such a good point.

Speaker 1 Such a good point. Only billing or say we're in a simulation.
No, what if we're already computer creations that are creating? We are in a machine, though. I mean, it's so obvious.
We are in a machine.

Speaker 1 We're in the matrix, and we're already creating another stars. We're like a better version of ourselves.
We're in a machine. Right.
We're in a clock. We're actually in a clock.
Yes. The sun

Speaker 1 regulates the day. The clocks go to the stars and the sun and the moon.
The moon's 28 days. Apparently, we're supposed to have 13 months, and we used to have 13 months.

Speaker 1 No, we used to believe that.

Speaker 1 The calendar used to be 13 months. No, he's right.

Speaker 1 No, he's right. The first thing he's saying about the machine is real.
That makes sense. Now, think about October.
What does oct mean?

Speaker 1 Late, right? October.

Speaker 1 Why is it the 10th month?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Because octopus is.
DECA. What does that mean? 10? 10.
December. You're using Latin on me right now, bro.
You do that, bro. Cherokee candle calendar.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Traditionally defined as lunar calendar marked by 13 moon cycles of 28 days well that wouldn't does that work it does work there's an extra day and that day is like the ides of march march is supposed to be the first

Speaker 1 why didn't we do that that's so much better than one month

Speaker 1 as 31 one month as 28 exactly right by the way

Speaker 1 the moon has a 28 day fate they do black history month on the one month with only 28 days like settle down

Speaker 1 here comes the pirate here's the pirate bro this is a great fight

Speaker 1 This dude,

Speaker 1 this fucking dude throws kicks like everybody else throws punches. Shara Bullet's so weird.
Like, even you watch him training, it's a non-stop kicking thing. Did you see him train with that Nina girl?

Speaker 1 It's yes. See, it makes me think, though, watching him train because everybody thinks that kicks wear you out.
I think kicks wear you out if you're not used to throwing kicks.

Speaker 1 Dude, is this an orange bush coming out of his shorts? I don't know. No, that's not his bush, bro.
Is it? Isn't there an orange bush coming out of his shorts? No, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 Imagine he just let it grow. But they're dangerous to pull him to the side, yo.
Like,

Speaker 1 look how big he is, Kay.

Speaker 1 Some of those dudes, like those Russian wrestlers that have crazy hairy backs, you know, those dudes. That should be illegal.

Speaker 1 Wild crotch hair. Wild crotch hair.
Remember how hairy

Speaker 1 was? Oh my god, he was a werewolf. He had hair on his shoulders.
Oh, bro. Yeah, he was a werewolf.
But he looked awesome. When you're in the middle of the day, bro, props to that guy, man.

Speaker 1 I'm sad that he's now out of the UFC, you know, that they kind of forced him out.

Speaker 1 Props to that guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that guy stayed like world-class for a long ass time even after he wasn't the best remember he he lost a federal he's doing well did that weird flying fucking thing got knocked out if he didn't do that and then still still revented himself that guy's never going bald that guy is never dude looks like the hormonal bro he was

Speaker 1 he was fucking fador up he was tuning him up on the feet and then did that weird flying fucking thing he fucked up but everybody forgets how good our lofski was in his prime bro he had a laser beam of a right hand as he got older, his punches were more laid, probably his shoulder problems.

Speaker 1 Meaning that the most boringest fight ever.

Speaker 1 I beat him, but yeah. It was very boring.
Isn't that crazy, too, that you fought him like how many years after he started? Shit. Think about that.
He was a champ in, what, 2005? Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, so 20 years ago, he was a champ. But he first had a fight, we were like in our 20s by the time.

Speaker 1 And then taking on young, you know, I was a young line in. Bro, he took on Francis.
Yeah. He took on Francis when Francis was.
Yeah, it happened. When was the first time I left you walking?

Speaker 1 Do you remember how you partied after the Cro Cop fight? Do you remember that night? Yep. What'd you do? I went and got chicken wings and went to my room and threw up.

Speaker 1 That's it?

Speaker 1 He didn't go.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Okay.
So you couldn't go party? I was in so much pain because my nose got shattered.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy that people don't even think about that, but a lot of the guys who win still get concussed. Even the guys who win by knockout.
You think, oh, he won by knockout.

Speaker 1 He must be fine right now. Like, no, he probably

Speaker 1 almost got KO'd himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was tough. You ever seen that fight with Ramon Deckers? Ramon Deckers fought this dude, and they both left hooked at the same time and both knocked each other out.

Speaker 1 That was the end of Rocky III. It's real

Speaker 1 in this kickboxing. Ramon Deckers is one of the best ever.
My favorite kickboxer of all time because he was such a fucking psychopath.

Speaker 1 Look at this.

Speaker 1 Bro.

Speaker 1 They both just cranked one off at the exact same time. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, monster. Look at this.
Boom. Bro, that is so crazy.

Speaker 1 I think the other guy did.

Speaker 1 I think Ryan Simpson got up first.

Speaker 1 He got up first. I think, see, he wasn't totally out.
Like, look, when he goes down, he catches himself, but

Speaker 1 Rob Kane, or excuse me, Ramon Deckers didn't. He's out out.
What weight did he fight at you? Well, he started off light. See, that was the thing.

Speaker 1 He was one of the only foreigners that went over to Holland and was fighting ties, and he was their size.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that that? He was from Holland and he went over to Ty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bro. He fucked those dudes up with a violence they had never seen before, like a psychotic violence.
Like a Melbourne. The Holland mob hired me to move and live

Speaker 1 there to train Ramon Deckers to fight MMA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
And then the mob boss got thrown in jail and then they canceled the plans. I was ready to move to Holland.
I was going to move to Holland.

Speaker 1 He was telling me, he's like, bro, it's going to be awesome. I'm going to train those dudes.
I'm going to give them some fucking killer jiu-jitsu. It wouldn't work, too.

Speaker 1 Let's get the clock going because Sharabullet

Speaker 1 is about to be able to get colour on his opponent.

Speaker 1 So 458, 457,

Speaker 1 or 455, 54, 453, 452. All right, sync it up.

Speaker 1 Sharabullet's fighting with one eye. Yeah, one eye.
One eye. That's the other one, right? He's such an exciting fighter.
He's one of my favorite fighters.

Speaker 1 His ceiling, I don't know, because of his wrestling. It's huge.

Speaker 1 This is a big move up. How does jiu-jitsu?

Speaker 1 Well, he's not a brown fighter. That's not his thing.
He's really a karate guy. But the way he throws his kicks is nuts.
Karate guy from Dagestan or something, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's so weird, right? It's not like Muay Thai style. I mean, he can do all

Speaker 1 that. But Trozians are good, man.
This is what I'm talking about. Really good.
Really good. Really good Muay Thai.
And fully complete. He's a complete guy.
And the army is super strong.

Speaker 1 Sounds like Russian army. He better be Army.

Speaker 1 You know, Bullets has an indestructible head, but no, anybody can't. When he gets hit with shots because all that hair looks like

Speaker 1 twice now. Yeah, it does look worse.
It looks way worse because all that hair. That's a very good point.

Speaker 1 Because you just see it. It looks like the burning bush.
But Petrosian's super solid. When I saw this fight, it was being made.
I was like, ooh, that's a real test. He's one-twos.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and like, good defensively,

Speaker 1 big fucking dude for the weight class.

Speaker 1 These guys are so big. It's so crazy how big 185 is now.
Wild, dude. They're so big.

Speaker 1 DDP, I was trying to tell Brian, I'm like, dude, DDP is

Speaker 1 a different fucking animal. Anthony Smith is away.
He was like 235. He's a 205.
He's no fat on him.

Speaker 1 He's 205. This is 85.
No, 85, though. No, they're huge, too.
Yeah. 205 has notoriously been big.
85 now, to me, is the biggest kind of leap as far as big guys. They're fucking huge.

Speaker 1 Drickus is so fucking big. Izzy ain't small either.
Strickland ain't small. Look at Luke Rockhold.
He fought a 2000.

Speaker 1 Robert Whitaker's no punk.

Speaker 1 These guys are bigger.

Speaker 1 What kick is he the most famous for? Petrosian? He's just

Speaker 1 clipped up.

Speaker 1 He throws everything. Is it the wheel kicks? He throws everything.
Wheel kicks, axe kicks, roundhouse kicks.

Speaker 1 Someone's getting knocked out, dog. Bro, he's coming after this dude.
He's really throwing it. Petrosian's landing, too.
Yeah, but he's coming after Petrosian. He's really hitting the axe.

Speaker 1 He's a fucking man.

Speaker 1 I love his look, man. Like a pirate.
So crazy. You know, he played a bad guy in a movie in Hollywood recently.
Oh, what a great casting. They're going to cast Polaton in some movie, too, I heard.

Speaker 1 He's a bad guy in some movie.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm hyped for these guys. Imagine if one of these guys becomes the next rock.
The next, like, John Cena? That'd be sick. Like, you're telling me Conor McGregor couldn't become an action movie star.

Speaker 1 Dude, they've asked him to, and he keeps turning it down. He still wants a fight.
Does he? He still wants a fight. Does he? And he also wants a party.
Yeah. I love him.
He can do no wrong.

Speaker 1 He looks like he's having a good time. Yeah, as he should.
He doesn't know a shit. Here he did it.
If he had a good time, can be a good thing. If he just got clipped.
He got clipped. That left hook.

Speaker 1 He got clipped. Patrojan did.
Yeah, Patrozian did. He's been clipped a few times now.
But look out the way he throws his kicks. It's so different.

Speaker 1 And he can throw so many in a row, too. But Petrosian is rock solid, man.

Speaker 1 I wonder if that hair is actually a bit of a shock absorber. No,

Speaker 1 right? No. He's a stupid Tommy, right? That's so dumb.
Somebody hit you in the head with a fucking big head of hair.

Speaker 1 But I think the beard is. I mean, no, just the hair, all that hair.
They used to think that in boxing. In boxing, you used to have to shave your beard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for golden gloves, they made me shave everything. I couldn't look more Mexican.
I just had a mustache. But even if it's like 1%, right? It can make a difference.
No. No.

Speaker 1 At this level, it does not fucking matter.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. Especially at tired.
It's tired.

Speaker 1 A little padding. No.

Speaker 1 Unless you had a crazy-ass wild man beard, like one of them dudes that lives in the woods for 10 years. Just like a thick.
Maybe psychologically, it feels like it's Rick Rubin beard. Yeah.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 Like if you get hit with an uppercut, I would say a Rick Rubin beard would protect you quite a bit.

Speaker 1 Maybe you stop your punch thinking you're hitting him. You know how you aim and maybe it cuts

Speaker 1 him. What? The punch are you talking about?

Speaker 1 He's a professional, man.

Speaker 1 What was the last time you punched somebody? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No, you're pulling your punch.
No, the professionals.

Speaker 1 You're aiming. There's his face, but it's an illusion.
I didn't go all the way through.

Speaker 1 He's lighting him up, Derek. Dude, I've been pretty hard on Hamza, you know, because

Speaker 1 the hype kind of fell off, dude. The longest COVID ever.
And then he had an interview. with Brett Akamoto, and you're like, oh, I'm sick, dude.
Side fucking camera. Yeah, bro.
He does everything, man.

Speaker 1 Then he has that interview with Brett Akamoto.

Speaker 1 He talks about how he's been depressed and he's been constantly moving. And dude, and he has a kid.
You're like, oh, this is a normal dude.

Speaker 1 He's calmed down because he had a kid. Yep.
And he's been going through a tough time. He's camp.
He didn't have the same camp. His kid has had two surgeries.
His kid's going to have one

Speaker 1 surgery.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after the fight. Yeah, and they're like, what's going on? He's like, oh, I was depressed because he's like, it's tough making my family move every fucking month.

Speaker 1 Why do they have to move all the time? I don't know. I don't know.
But you should. know, and then you're saying that that's why he wants to stay and fight.

Speaker 1 You know, people give him shit about not coming to America. He's like, my health, when I fly, it fucks me up.
Yeah. Which I don't know

Speaker 1 what's real. Here's the story on that dude, supposedly.
You can't kick him out of the gym. He's the most brutal over-trainer.
Like, that's the story on him.

Speaker 1 And then he's just like such a psychopath that he'll train even if he's sick. Did you see him training with the Olympic wrestling game? Yes.
No. No.
Pretty fucking impressive. Yeah.
Dude.

Speaker 1 Really impressive.

Speaker 1 He's hanging with those guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Really?

Speaker 1 You don't say

Speaker 1 he's a beast, dude. Yeah, he's a beast.
What he did to Rockhold was disturbing. It was disturbing.
Like, Luke Rockhold, he's not in his prime, but Luke Rockhold was a fantastic rapper.

Speaker 1 Who are you guys talking about again? Hamza. Oh.
Hamza rolled with Luke Rockhold and just ran through him. Okay.
Ran through him. Jesus.
Armbard him. What else he played? He hooked him.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it just ran through him, just dominated him.

Speaker 1 He's a banch. The only thing I would not touch this as far as betting, if I were going to bet on it, I'd put money on Whitaker.

Speaker 1 Just because there's so many variables with Hamzat, his best heavyweight win against Murshark. He's never really beat a true middleweight.
And then you're going from fighting wealth to weights.

Speaker 1 He beat a blown-up Oozman, struggled with that, struggled with Gilbert Burns, and you're fighting Robert Whitaker at three?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I still want to see it. Oh, no, I'm not sure.
No, no, no, I'm not saying. No, no, no, I'm not saying.
No, I'm saying I went and bet on it. I'm saying there's too many unknowns with Murshark.

Speaker 1 That was like one of the first, I think his first fight was at 85, And then I think at 170, he's unstoppable. But I just don't think he can really make 170.

Speaker 1 Did you see him on the scales for this? He looked bad. He was the last one to weigh in.
It's tough. It's hard.
He's in 85. Max looks very thin, too.
Max looks real drawn out.

Speaker 1 See, I don't like Max at 45, especially at his age. I like him at 55.
But the thing with Max, you know, so he's been going on this fucking war path after losing to Volkanovsky.

Speaker 1 They asked him what changed. You know what he said? What? Sparring.
Remember he was the guy that goes, I don't spar? They go, what changed? He goes, I start sparring again.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm knocking bitches out.

Speaker 1 You got to spar. You got to sparrow.
You got to spar. Unfortunately.
He was the one guy. I'm like, oh, man, maybe you don't have to.
And then you're like, all right.

Speaker 1 I wonder if Charlotte Lowe would lose all his power if you shaved his beard. I think there were some other guys who decided to go the not-sparring route.
Mitrion did it for a long time.

Speaker 1 Mitrion was the first of it. A lot of those guys started talking about that.
Donald, didn't Donald do it?

Speaker 1 I think Donald did it. I think Donald did it for a while.

Speaker 1 You know what? In football,

Speaker 1 the equivalent to that, not sparring, is not really

Speaker 1 going hard in in preseason.

Speaker 1 And the Browns didn't fucking play anybody in preseason. They didn't take any chances, and they got walloped the first six seven.
That's just different. Yeah, so now it's like, damn,

Speaker 1 we got to spar in preseason. Nut shot.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude. And that's when you feel it.
Bro, everybody needs to get those diamond MMA cups. What are they?

Speaker 1 Those, those compression shorts with those perfectly fitted cups you could take a literal nut shot to. Really? Yeah, man, they exist.

Speaker 1 Not only that, here's the thing. You can can wear a tie cup.
You can wear a steel tie cup in the UFC. If you're fighting in the UFC, you 100% should wear a steel tie cup.

Speaker 1 It's just going to break their foot. Yeah, if somebody kicks you in the dick, it breaks their foot.
The leverage with an armbar? Lever with an armbar is insane.

Speaker 1 And also, like, if you get on top of them, you could shove that thing into them. It's a part wearing a weapon just because for podcasts and everything.
You can get one.

Speaker 1 They hurt, man. They hurt with whatever you're pushing it up against.
It's a piece of metal. What does it do?

Speaker 1 How's it held into place?

Speaker 1 You tie it through your ass like a nail stripper. Really? Yeah, it's super good.
I'm good. Yeah, it's super good.
I never wore one. I want to wear one for discipline.

Speaker 1 But you have to make sure it's really in place because if it slips and a nut gets pokey out,

Speaker 1 then you're getting steel slammed. Oh my god.
I had that happen with a plastic cup once. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my nut got pokey outy a little on the side, and I got kicks and nuts, and the plastic cup slammed into my nut. That happened to it, was

Speaker 1 Gilbert Ivil and Vanderley Silva in Pride 11. Oh, my God.
One kicks. And the kicker in its nuts.

Speaker 1 And it was over. They had to take him out in a switch.
I never wore a cup in football or fighting. I remember that fight.
I remember so many Pride fights. Yeah, it was over.

Speaker 1 It was like he wouldn't, like, usually you get hit in the nuts and you need five minutes max or whatever.

Speaker 1 This time,

Speaker 1 there was no coming back. His nut got caught on the side of the...

Speaker 1 Dude, when you look at those old Pride fights, that might have been the golden years. That might have been the best of the best.
The savages. There was so much good about it.

Speaker 1 There was so much good about it. First of all, it was the first time we ever got to see MMA in giant places.
Like, there was no UFCs that were in 90,000 people. And that was in 2000.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the pageantry? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pride 10.

Speaker 1 Remember Henzo versus Sakuraba Pride 10? Oh, yeah. Dude, I commentated that shit, dog.

Speaker 1 It was like 150 degrees. I was in a suit, and it looked like I jumped out of a pool, dog.
And how many people were there, Eddie?

Speaker 1 It was like a fucking baseball stadium. Yeah, like 80,000.
80,000? I don't know about 80,

Speaker 1 but it was

Speaker 1 insane.

Speaker 1 It was insane.

Speaker 1 That was when,

Speaker 1 dude, there were so many classic matches. Guy Mesger versus

Speaker 1 Vanderley Silva, Gilbert Ivil, when he knocked out

Speaker 1 Goodrich in one kick.

Speaker 1 That was one strike in the fight. They came out, and Gilbert Ivil just hit the kaboom right to the head.
That was it. Wow, left high kick.

Speaker 1 And Gary Goodridge was laid out, knocked out for like five minutes. And when he woke up,

Speaker 1 his sister was his personal trainer. She was a yoke chick.

Speaker 1 And he woke up and he told me this. He goes, dude, when I woke up, I thought, and you know, he's from Toronto.
He's from, and he goes, when I woke up, I thought I was at a rave in Toronto.

Speaker 1 That's what he told me. Gary Goodrich.

Speaker 1 Maybe he was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe he was.

Speaker 1 Maybe he got hit so hard that he got knocked into a parallel dimension.

Speaker 1 And maybe he really

Speaker 1 thought his sister was some chick he was hanging out with. He didn't even know what his sister was.
Maybe that's real.

Speaker 1 It's like you remember when you

Speaker 1 go. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Remember back when you had cable, when you had cable and there was the dirty channels? Yeah. And you could tune into them, but they'd be all like fucked up.

Speaker 1 And every now and then you'd see like a couple of seconds of some girls boobs riding some guy.

Speaker 1 And then it would go away.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's what like getting kicked in the head is like.

Speaker 1 And then finally you just give up on it you're like fuck after like a half an hour you're just waiting for the shots like fuck this it's waste I'm wasting my life parallel dimensions yeah when Rothwell knocked me out I was like climbing a ladder I went to a different planet and climbing ladders dude

Speaker 1 I was just like

Speaker 1 really yeah my hands were twitching like climbing a ladder the weirdest thing when you get hit really hard and your legs just stop working it's the weirdest feeling like that's why I like nerve knockouts like a good left hook to the jaw when someone gets clipped and you see that nerve knockout it's like it's every it's the weirdest thing man like you have no control over it like there's one thing when you're hit and you're hurt and your your body's crumbling you're taking shots but the the hit to the chin is like weep it's an off switch someone just goes by

Speaker 1 the lights off but you're conscious yes you're conscious you're conscious you're conscious like you can't you're not you didn't even get hurt real bad like i got hit way harder before than i when i've been dropped but you get hit like on the top of the head or you get hit somewhere else but i got hit on a point of the chin once and my legs

Speaker 1 oh fuck what happened dude he threw a spinning fucking a back fist and then reversed it and threw another spinning he threw two of them

Speaker 1 and the second the opposite way we throwing spinning shit the whole tony ferguson did that once but he did it the same way this guy changed directions unless i'm retarded i'm maybe i'm wrong

Speaker 1 now i remember it god damn i talked too much yo that was fucking insane

Speaker 1 by the way his gas tank is ridiculous well he has to have one if he kicks as much as he does.

Speaker 1 Damn, he wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 1 like, he's not even that happy. He's like, dude, that was fucking tough.
There you go. He's like, shit, I got...

Speaker 1 Okay, so we go boom, and then change directions. Boom.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yo, no one's ever done that before.
No. No one's ever done that before.
Look at the accuracy, too.

Speaker 1 This was good, too. Accurate boom, boom, spinning back hammer fist.
Wow. Dude, that's kung fu theater right there.
That is.

Speaker 1 That's wild.

Speaker 1 That's wild. And the dude just put his head down.
That's going to be a highlight forever, right? That's crazy. That's crazy.
Boom!

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Wow. And you know what? Tony Ferguson did it to Rafael Dosanos, but he threw it, and then he kept spinning, and then he threw another one.
You know what I mean? In the same direction.

Speaker 1 I was just thinking of Rafael Dosanos. Remember when he broke his foot when he was supposed to fight Connor? Yep.
That was supposed to go down. He was good as brain.
He was kind of favored to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's wild.
That was the fight. He was a scary guy.
He fought tonight.

Speaker 1 How did he do? How do you do, Jamie? He fought Jeff Neal. I I mean, he ragged out.
Oh, that's right. He ragged out an ATS.
Remember, wasn't he? Bro, he was a beast when he was a champion.

Speaker 2 Jeff Neil, first round TKO.

Speaker 1 Jeff Neil knocked him out first round TKO.

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Speaker 1 He's older than 40. Yeah.
Yeah, he's older. And I believe he only has one ACL.
And that's also, I think, damn near his 40th USD fight. How do you remember all this fucking information?

Speaker 1 Like, do you, at night, you spend an hour going through shit and watching fights again? I just give him pop quizzes. Your memory can't be easy.
Your memory can't be that good. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 All the time. It can't be that good.

Speaker 1 So you got to watch shit. He's got a good memory.
He's actually,

Speaker 1 I just love it. You remember two minutes and 30 seconds of round four, he hit him with a jab.
And like, how do you know this shit? It's probably the same way you know conspiracies and shit.

Speaker 1 You're just into it. I watch YouTube offering.
There's a TKO. His knee goes out, I think.
Oh,

Speaker 1 like I just said, that I think he's got no ACL. He's thick.

Speaker 1 I think he's got a bad ACL. He said 70.

Speaker 1 It's like right here. Could have been 55, right?

Speaker 1 Guys tend to give him problems. Oh, oh, come on, off it out.

Speaker 1 Man, Jeff Deals hands look stupid. Oh, his legs fucked up.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's D! Okay.

Speaker 1 Dude, and RDA is the nicest guy. When I was fighting over in Brazil, no Brazilian would let me work out in the gym.
Nobody would help me.

Speaker 1 He would take me, drop his daughter off at school, and then take me around, get me food, take me to his gym. Really? The nicest fucking guy in the world.

Speaker 1 That's crazy that I said that is, I think he has no ACL.

Speaker 1 And then that happened. Fuck.
That poor guy.

Speaker 1 There's a couple guys who are fighting the UFC with no ACL. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. It's the craziest thing to do.

Speaker 1 Justin Gacey has won no ACL. Who was the first guy? Do you remember the first guy? Rico.
Rico Rodriguez. He's like, what? What are you doing? He's like, I have no ACL.
Like, what?

Speaker 1 What? heavyweight champion of the world. UFC heavyweight champion.
But the quad thing you can't fix. You can fix the ACL thing.

Speaker 1 We just need to go through a surgery. You guys have an NCAA champ, too, as I'm going to do.
No. No, no.
No. He wrestled, but he wasn't.
He was an early John Jacques Machado bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a Jiu-Jitsu guy. His big boy.
Jiu-Jitsu was nasty. Savage.
Nasty.

Speaker 1 He's a wrestler. Because this is in the 90s.
And when wrestlers came into jiu-jitsu, everybody was a white belt and a blue belt in the 90s.

Speaker 1 There was one purple belt per school. And there was one American black belt, Craig Kukok, in New York.
Remember Henzo's guy?

Speaker 1 I joined Black. That was a Harvest teacher.
Purple Belt, American Purple Belt per school.

Speaker 1 Everybody was a white, and everybody was a black belt. Steve Maxwell was one of the first American black belts.
But the...

Speaker 1 Yeah, Greg was partners with Henso back. The guys that came in with a wrestling background, like Rico Rodriguez, he came in and he wrestled his whole life.

Speaker 1 And he went like him and this guy named Seth Godall, they're big dudes who wrestled. As blue belts, they went to the world championships just fucked everybody

Speaker 1 saying Rico fucked everybody Rico was an NCAA champ Rico Rodriguez I don't know he may be but I don't know I don't know

Speaker 1 who was that kid that would always come to jiu-jitsu at 10th planet when it was legends at legends when he was a Eric crazy wrestler super powerful oh my god you remember that dude yes I forget his name

Speaker 1 he had so much potential this guy was we used to do neon stomach drills. Rico, what do you guys, what does it say?

Speaker 1 What about his wrestling? Okay.

Speaker 1 He did ADCC.

Speaker 1 He wasn't a... This dude.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about... It's Eric, right, Eddie? Wasn't it Eric? Eric something.
Yeah. This dude, Eric, we used to do neon belly drills.

Speaker 1 This is when I realized what the difference between a really strong wrestler is. I couldn't get up.
If he was on top of me, I wasn't not getting up. I tried so hard to get up.
I could not get up.

Speaker 1 I was in real good shape. I was a brown belt.

Speaker 1 I I could not get up. Every jiu-jitsu school owner wanted that were, they're all looking for wrestlers because they already had a lot of people.
When we switched, we switched positions.

Speaker 1 So when I got on top of him, he just went, we

Speaker 1 I just went flying. I had pretty good top pressure.
I had pretty good. You're talking with head and arm, and you got a knee on belly.

Speaker 1 I have pretty good top pressure. We see you.
I was just like, this is crazy. You know another person who made me feel like that? Carl Parisian.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 First time I rolled with Carl, I was like, this is ridiculous. You're a chimpanzee, bro.
You're not even a fucking human. All those years of judo.
Jake Shields, too, right? Oh, yeah, Jake Shields.

Speaker 1 Same thing. Same thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Cara was freaky. It was because it's like, why are you so fucking strong? Like, because it's judo is the craziest thing.
You're literally throwing bodies all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're hoisting people up in the air and slamming them. And you're fucking exploding on your feet and tripping each other.
They're explosive. Oh, my God.
Yeah, I remember

Speaker 1 I was rolling with you guys and Tarek and Jake Shields. We were all together and I was, I mean, I'm in the mix.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. Yeah, the idiot.
And Jake didn't know me, and he was like,

Speaker 1 this guy might have a podcast. I don't want him to, like, what if he gets positioned on me? He, like, you know how you ever see one of those steamrollers when they splat the pavement?

Speaker 1 It was inappropriate. It was.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Jake goes hard. Oh, my God.
I was like, I can't do it anyway.

Speaker 1 I was making noises. I'm fucking by challenges.
I was going through the house. Well, you should be fucked up, and you deserve it.
But also,

Speaker 1 how much do you weigh right now? You deserve 230 designers.

Speaker 1 Brian, you really deserve it. You deserve everything that comes your way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you train once a decade.

Speaker 1 And you get in there and try to roll with Jake Shields.

Speaker 1 I would do the same goddamn thing to you. I hate people like you.
I still train once a week.

Speaker 1 You fucker.

Speaker 1 You don't deserve to roll.

Speaker 1 Smush you. I'd be happy to do it.

Speaker 1 But then

Speaker 1 Well, that's a different thing.

Speaker 1 You ever think about having

Speaker 1 in the studio, like a room for like a band to play or to do jiu-jitsu? I have thought about no, not a juju-jitsu.

Speaker 1 We have the full mats out there. You've seen the back gym.
It would be cool to show me a move, and then you have mats and you have cameras. A bunch of guys come in and train here all this time.

Speaker 1 But for the podcast is what I'm talking about. Well, I thought about doing something like that, but then I think like some things just for yourself.

Speaker 1 Like when The Rock came here and worked out, I said, hey, hey man, fuck all this social media shit. Let's just hang out.
Because it was me and

Speaker 1 the comedians. So it was, you know, Brian Simpson was there, Shane Gillis, Tony Haney.
Those guys working out with The Rock is like Brian Bowen and Jake Shields.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Derek Poston was there. Asana Ahmad was there.
We had a good fucking time. You know, it was just hanging out.
Like, sometimes just hang out.

Speaker 1 But it'd be cool to have like, don't have to make it a business. Like a band.
Like a band play. That would be dope.

Speaker 1 That would be dope. But do I have time for that? I don't really have time for that.
You don't have time

Speaker 1 to have a band on your podcast and then they get up and sometimes, but I like it when people just play, like when Gary Clark Jr. comes here and just plays.
Like Everlast is played.

Speaker 1 Just play guitar and play. No, did Everlast have a DJ with him once? Yeah, Everlast came with a DJ.
I got like four or five guys.

Speaker 1 During the podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you set up?

Speaker 1 Just let them set up whatever they want. Honey, honey, play in hand.

Speaker 1 Like, just set up. They were all on the same one.
Joel,

Speaker 1 you can do it. Oh, you can't spit all an ideas trying to get you more views, man.
We know you're not.

Speaker 1 Anything you can do. We review the podcast go down in flames.
We're not going to do it. The most hilarious thing.

Speaker 1 When I first got the Spotify,

Speaker 1 I was willing to do it for two reasons: one, because it was a ton of money, and two, because I wanted to be like 10% less famous. Yeah.
I was like, wouldn't that be nice? Boy, did that happen?

Speaker 1 I heard you had that too. Because people are like, oh, you're going to go into obscurity.
I'm like, great.

Speaker 1 You'll be like Howard Stern. No one's going to look.
I was like, perfect. Perfect.
Give me the money. I got other interests, man.
Yeah, give me the lead.

Speaker 1 Were you at all nervous for Trump?

Speaker 1 I was definitely hyped up. I was excited.
Because I wanted to, there was a lot of questions I needed to answer. Did you feel pressure? No.
No, no, no, not pressure.

Speaker 1 Pressure being like, make sure you cover everything you want to cover. No, no, no, no.
Just like I knew what was important. Did you not prepare for it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you ask him?

Speaker 1 Did you so pro-vaccine? No, I didn't. But I also wanted to be rigid because there was a moment when he brought up the polio vaccine.
I was like, oh, I don't want to correct him.

Speaker 1 I don't want to show like when the... Have you ever seen the chart of when polio actually dropped off when the vaccine was introduced? I referenced at the very end.
That's all bullshit.

Speaker 1 That's a rough one.

Speaker 1 When you look at the actual, like, there's a bunch of them. Measles is another one.
And you look at what actually happened.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And I don't want to get involved in a podcast where there's a lot of shit I want to get to.
I want to know what the fuck is in the JFK files. Did you? That's what we talked about.

Speaker 1 I didn't see that part because I've seen that. He said there's a lot of people that are still alive.

Speaker 1 And I said, okay, so that's why you wouldn't release it because some of the people that are going to be implicated are still alive.

Speaker 1 So what that's saying saying to me is that the government was involved.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows. But I said that, and he kind of like danced a little.

Speaker 1 Politician.

Speaker 1 No, he just like he's real good at you ask him a question and he starts to answer it But then he takes you on a totally different

Speaker 1 route

Speaker 1 But you got to bring him back in but you got to be respectful So it's like I knew that that's the way he does it But I'm like I understand what you're doing sir, but let's get it back to what I was asking you

Speaker 1 did that a couple times I was like I want to know what that first fucking day is like. And I don't think I really got that answer out of him.

Speaker 1 I don't think he remembers. I think he does.

Speaker 1 What I'm talking about is like this feeling of now you have to appoint 10,000 people and now you have to figure out how this machine works when you've never governed at all.

Speaker 1 And they don't show you any of that when you're running for president. It's not like a training program.
Like, hey, Brendan, you might be president, so we're going to show you.

Speaker 1 This is how deals get made.

Speaker 1 I like what he said about John Bolton. He said, yeah, he's a whack job, but you know what was cool about him? When I went to fucking Iran and I had John Bolton, they all knew he was a fucking

Speaker 1 drop bomb.

Speaker 1 He's called him a whack job, but he had his first John Bolton.

Speaker 1 That kind of mindset, you know, the problem with the Trump stuff is just that the people look at the inflammatory things he says, the crazy shit, and they define him by that.

Speaker 1 But you also have to remember this is a very bizarre combination of an entertainer and a businessman. So it's an entertainer that, like, he's like a comedian, man.
He says funny shit.

Speaker 1 He does it all the time. Very funny.
He's always

Speaker 1 fun of Biden. Constantly roasting.

Speaker 1 He's funny, man. He's in New York.
He's very New York.

Speaker 1 The nicknames he gives to people, they're funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If it wasn't funny, he wouldn't use it. Timp on Tim.
But

Speaker 1 my point is, people don't know what to do with that. And they want to pretend that all these other people are somehow or another like morally better because you don't get to see the real them.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't buy that. I don't think you should either.
I don't think that's how people really are.

Speaker 1 I think, and when you see over and over and over and over again, the media manipulating things and lying about things to make him seem way worse than he is. Call him Hitler.
You should be suspicious.

Speaker 1 You should be realizing that. Exactly.
So they don't want to lose that job, but they're in desperado mode now. Did you have a different perspective after?

Speaker 1 Like you don't know him well, right? I don't know him at all. But I literally never had a conversation with him other than nice to meet you, sir.
And he complimented me. I said,

Speaker 1 you're really good at this UFC stuff.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 But after three hours, did you have a different impression of him or no? Yeah. Well, I mean, he's a businessman, bottom line.
He likes making deals. That's what it is.
Like, that's his whole thing.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he's got this ability to just keep going. This is what's crazy.
The podcast is three hours long. The guy didn't pee before the podcast.
He didn't pee after the podcast.

Speaker 1 Maybe he just left Cassidy. Maybe he died.
Maybe he drank more Diet Cokes than me. But he didn't drink anything during the podcast.
Gangster.

Speaker 1 He just sat here and we talked, and they were freaking out out there because he was two hours late for something he was doing in Michigan. He didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 He's like, I know this is going to be bigger than that. Let's just keep going.
We did three hours.

Speaker 1 But at the end of it, he's, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't know him other than the three hours that I talked to him when he was trying to be at his best. And Kamala Harris has not said yes yet.
She's not said no either.

Speaker 1 People keep saying she said no.

Speaker 1 I said I would have a conversation with her like a human being. That's all I want to do.
That's literally all I want to do. That's true.
I want to know what is it like to be.

Speaker 1 I don't even give a fuck about all the stuff she's talked about, about policies and all these different things.

Speaker 1 We know her positions.

Speaker 1 Like, who are you?

Speaker 1 Just be real. Who are you? The crazy thing with Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 She would be well served to step out of the lion's den. No, she's not taking it.
She can't do it. I wouldn't be willing to talk about anything other than politics.
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. I don't know who she is.
Like, if there were some certain things they didn't want to talk about, I'm like, fine. I don't care.
Let's talk about it. I want to know who you are.

Speaker 1 Yes. I can find out who you are if we can talk about sports.
It's crazy how

Speaker 1 she does interview after interview and they're just like disasters. And you would think that because she would study interviews and just like

Speaker 1 it's a fucked up way to talk that no one's used to doing. Here's the way it is.
Here's a question. Give me an answer.
And you're like, well, I think that it's not a fucking conversation.

Speaker 1 It's not a conversation. So it's a weird.
So you're uncomfortable with your words and you're trying to get it out right.

Speaker 1 And you realize millions of people fucking hate you and don't think you should be in that position in the first place. When she begins to answer a question with, I'm glad you asked that.

Speaker 1 Thank you for that. I'm like, oh my God, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 1 steers backing a what a question about the 20 million illegals coming through the border unvetted I'm glad you asked that no no no she's she steers it back to the same talking points she steers it back to I'm a middle class I come from a middle class family I like small businesses it always back to the same and groceries and they go what about inflation and then she goes you know it's everything

Speaker 1 you're right I'm glad you asked that question groceries I know gas

Speaker 1 Everything. Families are struggling.

Speaker 1 Families. And then she's.

Speaker 1 But no plan.

Speaker 1 I need to hear what you want to do. No policy.
You would think our handlers would go, this is the plan. When they ask you about inflation, say we're going to do this.
I'm telling you the way

Speaker 1 that the way they're doing it is very unnatural.

Speaker 1 And if you take a person that clams up when they have to talk publicly and you put them in unnatural environments, you incite all kinds of anxiety inside of them. It's a terrible way to communicate.

Speaker 1 I don't think this would go better for her. I just don't think it's her thing.
Three hours? If she did, if she gave her a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 You ended up trying to sell it and you're fucking it up for me.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 maybe Kamala could sing or something. No, I think if Samala.
You know what I mean? If she could sing, sign her to a bad boy record contract, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I think that company is going out of business. You might want to disagree with her.

Speaker 1 Can you make the stock of Bad Boy right now? Whoa. Bro, dudes are doing Kamala ads and moving to Europe.

Speaker 1 People always are tripping on the baby oil, right? With the Diddy thing, they're tripping on the baby, like a thousand bottles of baby oil. I'm like,

Speaker 1 yeah, there's probably about a thousand people at his parties, right? And everybody's 168 dildos.

Speaker 1 Wow boy. Bro,

Speaker 1 bro.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 imagine a Diddy party with no lube. Come on, man.
Come on.

Speaker 1 You got it. I bet he doesn't even, I bet Diddy's not even gay.
I bet it's just he really enjoys fucking guys just so he said he fucked them. Yeah, it's a power move.
I bet it's a crazy

Speaker 1 crazy. Yes, it does.
It's a crazy drugged up power move.

Speaker 1 It's not funny. It's not

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 filming everybody and having dirt on everybody. Like, it's a crazy

Speaker 1 organized crime.

Speaker 1 It makes you think, like, is this guy doing it on his own? No. Like, who's above this motherfucker?

Speaker 1 Is that

Speaker 1 the case? Is he doing it on his own?

Speaker 1 But maybe he is. He's not.
Also, it's funny, the celebrities coming out to support Kamala. You're like, what the fuck are you doing? All the people moving together.
You're like dancing.

Speaker 1 We love Kamala. Usher.
Beyonce came out last night. She was all like, yo, Usher.

Speaker 1 When Americans see like somebody who's a billionaire support, it's like, Beyonce, most people don't have anything in common with her. So when that happens, it doesn't usually go to the business.

Speaker 1 Any celebrity that comes out and

Speaker 1 didn't work. They probably went to parties.
You know what I mean? 100%. They probably.
Or they just went to school.

Speaker 1 I just think it's really weird to ask someone who lies for a living what they think the president should be.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of actors. They're just professional liars.

Speaker 1 The whole thing they're doing is they're pretending they're someone else. You have to be if you're a person.
And you want them to be super sincere when they tell you who to vote for.

Speaker 1 I believe it's time that Warren becomes president. The fact that they keep pushing that Trump is Hitler and he promised to be a killer.
Titanium. And Murphy, Murphy's a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 And undefeated and damned. Igay is putting it to him.
Murphy just lit up Barboza, undefeated, kid out of England.

Speaker 1 I was super impressed with Igay taking that fight on zero days' notice against Diego Lopez, because Diego Lopez is a straight-up fucking killer. Diego Lopez.
And they had a great fight.

Speaker 1 Dio's there tonight. He's the alternative.
Diego Lopez, Combat Jiu-Jitsu World's veteran, bro. Bro, he's good.
He's fucking good. He's fucking good.
Diego Lopez is dangerous. He's so wild.

Speaker 1 If he could just get a little bit more calculated and calm, he still hits the gas so hard, but he's such a killer, man. Topirius said he wins tonight.
He wants to fight Makachev. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Makachev wants to fight

Speaker 1 170 if Bilal was there. If Bilal loses a Shavkat, which is going to happen in December, Shavkot wins out, then Makachev's going to go up to fucking 170.
And challenge. Well, you think Bilal.

Speaker 1 Unless there's a rematch between Bilal and Shavkot. I mean, what if it's a crazy fight? I highly.
Well, it could be a crazy fight. Do people sleep on Bilal? I don't know.
I'm not saying that, Joe.

Speaker 1 I think he's a fucking fighter. He's a motherfucker.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying Mokachev Shovkot such a super fight, they're probably going to push that towards the queue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, you got to get past Bilal. What's Brook's go-to? What's his best shot? He's a striker.
Really good striker. Great striker.
He got up pretty good, too, but he gave his back. Oops,

Speaker 1 cookie over here.

Speaker 1 How much time? Ooh, plenty of time left, too. Igay's solid everywhere, too.
He's solid standing up. He's solid on the ground.
What is he, Mexican or something? Igay, What is it? Hawaiian.

Speaker 1 Isn't he a Hawaiian? Oh, shit. Okay.
He's a beast, man. He could easily be Mexican.
And he's super technical, too. Like, everything he does, very smart, very polished.
And he's just tough, tough.

Speaker 1 Tough shit, dude. Tough as shit.

Speaker 1 Murphy's up. When he knocked out Andre Feely, ooh.
How did Diego beat it? Ooh, real close. Real close fight.
Decision. Yeah, real close.
And he took you on literally 25-minute notice. Literally.

Speaker 1 He was getting massaged after working out. And he called, you want to fight tonight? He went and grabbed his mouthpiece.
Yeah, grab your mouthpiece. He was at Chipotle.

Speaker 1 bro he had a weigh in at 163 that was the agreed upon way because he couldn't obviously you can't cut weight the day of the fight and so diego took three different fights at three different weight classes he took 45 with brian ortega ortega said he couldn't make 45 diego made 45 said it's going to be at 55 he said okay i'll take 55 and then all of a sudden ige says 63.

Speaker 1 he's like okay

Speaker 1 let's just do it that's so nuts gangster

Speaker 1 dude what if max holloway wins tonight he can win 100% he can win. Max Holloway, you cannot doubt him after that fucking Justin Gage fight.
He's so clever and he's so wily.

Speaker 1 And with all the sparring now that we were talking about before, which I think is a giant. I mean, he said he sparred for the Gage fight much more.
He goes, I had to be a crash test dummy.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's ever been put down. No, he's never been knocked down.

Speaker 1 Justin Gage dropped him. He's never been knocked out.
No, he's never been knocked out, but he's been dropped. Justin was the first guy to drop him.
He hit him with a right hand. Max claims he did.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. Max claims he didn't get dropped? Yeah.
No, no, he talked on the podcast. He said he got dropped.
Yeah, he goes, oh, he dropped me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 First time. Yeah, we were talking on the podcast after that.
Him getting dropped. Yeah.
Yeah, he's never been knocked out, babe. No, never been knocked out.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 my God. Hit him flush there, sat him down.
Oh, that's not good. Egay's got nasty grounded pound, too.
Oh, this might be it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 39 seconds to go. That's it.
Oh, dude, you got to cover up. Keep moving.

Speaker 1 You're undefeated. You're undefeated.
You're undefeated. Oh, but he's still fighting.
30 seconds is a long time, isn't it? It's eternity. But if Dan Egay doesn't put him away here.

Speaker 1 Oh, here we go. Now we're moving.
Now things are changing.

Speaker 1 I think, too, in that main event with Tilperia, people forget his natural background is grappling, wrestling. Oh, big elbows.
What's up? Oh, takedown. Look at this.
Still got the Kura.

Speaker 1 He got the Kimura. Oh, he let it go.
Georgia. Oh, no, he didn't.
Oh, damn. No,

Speaker 1 he's got a nurse. Look at that.
He still has it. Beautiful.
Secure the head. Beautiful.
One second. It's over.
Wow. How about Murphy getting out of that, though?

Speaker 1 Not just getting out of it, but putting it on his ass.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. That was awesome.
Jesus.

Speaker 1 Rugged. Woo.
Is this at 55 or 45? 45. Did you just say rugged? Yeah.
I like saying rugged. It's 45, right, Jamie?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big dudes for 45, man. 45 is big, too.
Yeah. Big boys.
Everybody. The game is changing.
Look at Murab. The fact that dude makes 135, that's bananas.
Like, he probably doesn't need.

Speaker 1 I know, dude, but he's so thick.

Speaker 1 And when you're around that guy, he's a yeah, he's a lot of people. How about Sterling? Yeah.
Oh, Aljamaine was a little too big. I like him at 45.
Love him at 45.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that Calvin Cater fight was like, holy shit, dude. Calvin couldn't do anything to him.
Strong. He's got the best back control maybe in the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Aljamain Sterling, what he did to Corey Sanhagen.

Speaker 1 His back control is insane. His back control is pretty nasty.
That's what they're back control. That's a fucking problem.

Speaker 1 Danny Gay with the stiff left.

Speaker 1 Boom. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Mouthpiece out and everything. Yep.

Speaker 1 I hope Kamo says yes. Three hours.
I think she says yes,

Speaker 1 I don't know if she'll do three hours. They probably want to do like an hour.
You're going to get 22 minutes. I'll get an hour.
I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 22 minutes. 22 minutes with bullet points.
You know, it's like no one knows who these fucking people are. Get into her favorite sexuality.
We do know.

Speaker 1 We do know. I think someone asked, didn't that call her daddy girl? Didn't they start talking about bedroom stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like cowgirl.

Speaker 1 Very cool. Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 But really, reverse cowgirl on New Year's Eve and 4th of July, that's my favorite. Well, she does.

Speaker 1 She gives good cooking tips. Ever see a good cooking tips? Does she? What does she say? She tells people.

Speaker 1 Beef tower.

Speaker 1 She'll probably be like, no, no, seed oils are the best. They're getting a bad rap.

Speaker 1 You got to stick to seed boiling. Beef towel is too right-wing.
Exactly. I like

Speaker 1 sunflower oil.

Speaker 1 Crisco is the best. Isn't it crazy? Just stick with the ultimate.
All that stuff is industrial lubricant that they tricked us into taking over butter.

Speaker 1 It's so fucked up. It's so bad.

Speaker 1 It's so fucked up.

Speaker 1 My favorite is canola oil. Like, oh,

Speaker 1 we're eating corn. It's corn.
No, it's really from a plant called the rape seed. And you ever see what it looks like when they're processing it? Oh,

Speaker 1 seed oils being processed. It's like you look at it and you go, how can you make anybody eat that? I heard you.
Jamie, show me a video of seed oils being processed. Yeah, I know these distinctions.

Speaker 1 So beef tallow is number one, or is there other kinds of things? Chicken tallow? Is there chicken tallow? Ghee is really good. What's the difference between beef tallow and ghee?

Speaker 1 Ghee is clarified butter. No ghee? Is it like no ghee?

Speaker 1 It comes from milk. But there's like,

Speaker 1 people have rendered fat. Like bear is a really good fat that people render to cook in, believe it or not.
Bear fat. Yeah, bear fat.
Pig fat, lard is pig fat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cooking in animal fat is the best way. Also has the highest smoke.
So tallow means fat. Yes.
So beef tallow fat. Fat, that's what it is.
Is there chicken tallow? It's rendered. No.

Speaker 1 So you know what that means? It's got to be rendered. It's got to be rendered, is they take it and they cook it.

Speaker 1 So they take these giant vats of fat and they cook it and run it through a filter and then they fill jars with it. And that's what tallow is.
So it's rendered beef fat.

Speaker 1 Have you ever heard of regenerative farms? Yeah. Sure.
I've had a bunch of regenerative farmers on. Yo, I went to a regenerative farm like a month ago.
So this is how they make the seed oils.

Speaker 1 So this is like they're just smashing these fucking disgusting seeds into pellets. And it guests to go through this process.

Speaker 1 And that's what people cook.

Speaker 1 It's fucking gross, man. And then they turn into a cooking oil.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, you're not supposed to ever be cooking in that. Is flat seed oil bad for you?

Speaker 1 I don't know. You can't cook with it.
I don't think people are cooking with that that often. It's like

Speaker 1 avocado oil is very good to cook with. And it also has a high smoke point.
Have you ever seen that documentary, The Biggest Little Farm? No. Yo, you got to watch The Biggest little fucking farm, dude.

Speaker 1 It's like it's a farm, it's 100% regenerative, it's way above organic. No pesticides, no nothing.
They use animal, dude. They got like this balance, this ecological balance.

Speaker 1 I went to it like a month ago. I was fucking where's it at in Moore Park.
You can buy regenerative like from eggs.

Speaker 1 Watch the biggest little farm. Trust fight is really good, boy.
Really good. This fight's really good.

Speaker 1 Murphy's really good, man. Yeah.
Did he survive that?

Speaker 1 It's good for him. He looks good on the feet, too.

Speaker 1 Looks fresh. Oh,

Speaker 1 he just hit him with a 1-2. That's the thing.
Ig really burned off a lot of gas trying to finish him once he hurt him.

Speaker 1 Joe, did you watch Francis' fight? Yes.

Speaker 1 It was pretty good. When he took him down, I went brilliant.
Yeah, apparently, that was their game plan all along. Brilliant.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He has takedowns? Well, he won against Gon. I mean, he out-wrestled Cyril Gon with 1E.
Oh, shit. Did you see that takedown? Fuck.

Speaker 1 He took homey down.

Speaker 1 And he's in the mount, dog.

Speaker 1 He's in the mount. That guy's a black belt on the bottom.
I'm thinking like Igay might have hit the gas too hard in the first.

Speaker 1 Yo, he's on his back now. What the fuck? What rank is he? Murphy.

Speaker 1 Dude, he looks. Oh, everything changed now.
But he got a triangle. Look at that.
Can he finish it? All he got to do is pull the head down.

Speaker 1 If he pulls the head down and he's got a decent triangle, it's over. He's got to just pull his head down.
What time's left, though?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 nothing. Okay, nothing.
All he's got to do is pull his head. Pull his hoo belt.
All he's got to do is pull his head belt. He's got some moments to adjust.
You almost did right there.

Speaker 1 So much grease. But he could still in the middle.
Oh, he moved the arm over. Oh, dude, another minute.

Speaker 1 Shit would have been different. Yeah, he was just getting tired.
How about MMA where the next round starts in the same position? That's what I've been saying. How hard is that? I've been saying that.

Speaker 1 How hard is that? Not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 If the round ends and you're in the mount,

Speaker 1 the round starts in the mount. Don't wait for Victoria.
Why would you give me set fights all the time?

Speaker 1 Why would you give the striker the advantage of standing up?

Speaker 1 Why? You never heard it. You were on your back at the end of the round.
100% of knockouts. Everybody grew up watching Bruce Lee fight.
That's so stupid.

Speaker 1 It's one fight. It's not five fights.
It's one fight. So each round should start where the last one left.

Speaker 1 The problem is, because if you have a jitsu guys who can get finishes, especially if he's in the mount, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 But then with predominantly grappling and UFC now dominating, dominating, those guys just start and guard and get fucking 25 minutes of this dude's.

Speaker 1 What about boring ass striking? That happens too. There's boring guard work, but there's boring striking.
For sure. Why?

Speaker 1 I mean, it's. They don't want either.
They don't want either, but you're sure it's fucking not going to get a finish if you always start on the ground. What? What? The finish rates would go way down.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1 Guys who go to

Speaker 1 ground and pound finishes would go way up. Sure.
Jamie, bring up how many submissions compared to how many TKOs or knockouts in the OC. It's not even a case.
But we're talking about

Speaker 1 whole different people. When you constantly have stand-ups and then each round starts standing up, of course.
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Speaker 1 It's going to be more finished. It makes the UFC grappler heavy, and they want striking.
That's the last thing they have.

Speaker 1 You want whatever happens, happens.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't favor either side. It's a business, though.
Now that they have different clubs,

Speaker 1 okay. When the UFC blew up, did it blow up for the striking or did it blow up for the grappling? Striking.
Stephanie Bonner. Stephanie Bonner for Strip and Ultimate Fighter One.
Okay,

Speaker 1 how old are you? Let me finish this. I got to finish this.
Please.

Speaker 1 How old are are you? He's 30. I'm 26.
How old were you in 1994?

Speaker 1 I would have been 11. Exactly.
So what I'm saying is the UFC exploded in UFC 2.

Speaker 1 No, UFC exploded off the Ultimate Fighter once.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, relax. In UFC 2, it was fucking huge.
Not even close to what it was. Right.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You weren't even alive.

Speaker 1 Are you sure you were alive? You're sure you weren't at burst out of the scene?

Speaker 1 Okay, you're 11. Okay,

Speaker 1 let me help you out. UFC2 exploded

Speaker 1 changed the world. And then it went underground once they pulled it from cable and it went underground.
You got into it when it was underground, but it was huge.

Speaker 1 There was billboards in fucking Hollywood for the UFC.

Speaker 1 It was giant. But it's still a separate story.
You know what?

Speaker 1 It wasn't because of the striking. We always had striking.
There was already kickboxing. There was Muay Tai.
There was boxing. We already had striking.
The UFC, UFC2 blew up through the stratosphere.

Speaker 1 Because you were 11. Because of the grappling.
They were like, what the fuck is this? Because of the submissions. Because of the submissions.
We already had boxing. We already had kickboxing.

Speaker 1 It wasn't doing shit. Boxing was big, but kickboxing wasn't doing shit.
UFC 2 exploded because of the grappling. And then it went underground.
It was too big.

Speaker 1 UFC 5, that was billboards on Sunset when Hoist fought Ken Shamrock. That was massive.

Speaker 1 And then they pulled the plug on it. UFC got canceled.
I know.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Relax.

Speaker 1 The UFC got canceled. He liked.

Speaker 1 Let me finish. Let me just finish.

Speaker 1 The UFC got the plug pulled on it. Yes.
And it went underground. They thought it was dead for five years.
And then the Fertidas came in. And then that was the resurgence.
But it was already massive.

Speaker 1 Nowhere is what it was. It was massive talk.
UFC changed. UFC2 changed the world.

Speaker 1 You got to let other people talk to. It was still something that was like most people and like most of the casuals had no idea about.
They called it human cock fighting and they didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 Remember, it was on the 2000s. That's how it got canceled.
No, but what I'm saying is you had to rent it at the store the way you'd rent a porn back then. And

Speaker 1 it was considered barbaric. There are all these things.
So the people that love fighting

Speaker 1 Triangle, we all watched it, but not other people.

Speaker 1 It was huge. It was massive.
Not business wise. It was not business-wise.
Yo, that's what I was doing. It got canceled.
Yeah, I know. It was huge.
It was massive.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 you're both correct. That's what I'm saying.
We're both correct. The UFC did not exist before 93.
When 93 came along and the UFC burst onto the scene, everybody heard about the UFC.

Speaker 1 That was the big initial explosion, and it was because of Hoist Gracie. Correct.

Speaker 1 It was worldwide.

Speaker 1 It was billboards. No schools had more of an explosion of participants than Brazilian jiu-correct schools.

Speaker 1 The 90s were close.

Speaker 1 And then John McCain came in and they

Speaker 1 cocked fighting. Dude, the UFC got canceled.
They got pulled from cancer.

Speaker 1 That's why it went underground. It wasn't named.
So if you get into the UFC in the early 2000s, go, oh, the Fertinas blew it up. Yes, they did, but it was the resurgence.
It was already blown up.

Speaker 1 Got canceled. It wasn't making money.

Speaker 1 No, and it wasn't mainstream, Eddie. It still wasn't mainstream.
Okay. It wasn't.
It wasn't mainstream. Now it's mainstream.
It was mainstream, yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was with us, Eddie. But if you went up to like a regular guy in a store and said, do you know about the ultimate fighting championship? There's a high likelihood they wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 If you go in there today, everybody knows. Sure as fuck now.
When did it actually hit mainstream stats? 2005. Yeah.
That was USC195.

Speaker 1 1995, too.

Speaker 1 When Hoyce fought Ken Shamrock.

Speaker 1 It was massive. It changed martial arts for you.
It was massive. Stephan Bonner.
I think he got a lot of pay-per-views, too. I think

Speaker 1 it was massive. Hoyce versus Ken Shamrock super fight that went 30 minutes.
That shit was 1995. Nowhere near to what they are.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Not even close. It wasn't.
It wasn't. But it was for us.
Like, for us, it was a new thing. That's great for you.
And it was huge. No, but it was huge.
That's great for you.

Speaker 1 But as far as a business goes,

Speaker 1 it's huge.

Speaker 1 If it wasn't huge,

Speaker 1 why is Connor the biggest star in the world? Because he's a grappler? No.

Speaker 1 Striking? No. Well,

Speaker 1 what it is is exciting. What's exciting? Submissions are exciting.
Finishes are exciting.

Speaker 1 Carlivera has lost a lot of it, or won rather, a lot of his fights by submission. But every big fighter really lost.
How come Muay Thai is in the biggest fight? Pejara is huge to the striking. Why?

Speaker 1 Hey, who won this fight? We don't even know. Exactly.
Not very exciting. But Eddie, Eddie,

Speaker 1 you get huge in the the game. Cable if you strike, right? Why isn't Muay Thai the biggest sports? They don't have any stars.
Well, no, that's not true.

Speaker 1 One FC is doing a really good job with it, but I really think they need an American promotion that's similar to 1FC that's willing to have just...

Speaker 1 Look, everybody, if you just want striking, you can get the best kickboxers in the fucking world to just have a fight in the cage when you make it. And it just does that.
Exactly. And it's great.

Speaker 1 And I think, you know, the UFC has, instead of slap fight, maybe that's the way to go. Like, this is an opportunity to have just like have stand-up rules.

Speaker 1 Stand-up-only rules are, if you really want to see the wildest kickboxing in the world, it's not in the UFC. There's great fights in the UFC, but the wildest kickboxing is in Muay Thai.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Alex Pierre came from that background. Glory world champion.

Speaker 1 I know what he really was before you. And they're champions.
Of course, yeah. But the thing they learned how to do that.
Jiu-Jitsu is what makes it big. Striking with the threat of jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 Agree 100%.

Speaker 1 You have to have a job. I'm 100%.

Speaker 1 Glory would be the biggest thing in the

Speaker 1 Muay retire would be huge. Well,

Speaker 1 it should be huge. It's the same reason why the UFC almost wasn't huge.
You need a Fertidas. You need someone to come along that has a large amount of money, that understands business.

Speaker 1 Look, they were $40 million in the hole when they did UFC Ultimate Fighter 1. 40 million.
And they were like, look, we can't.

Speaker 1 There was one point in time where they had a phone call, and the Fertidas got on the phone with Dana and they said, we're going to sell it. Let's sell it.

Speaker 1 And then Dana got a call from them the next morning. They changed their mind.
They said, fuck it. Ride till the wheels fall off.
What's fun this ultimate fighter?

Speaker 1 And it was the craziest Hail Mary of all time. And Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin in the finals had the craziest fight.
And everybody tuned in.

Speaker 1 Like millions of people were calling their friends saying, there's the wildest fucking fight. These guys are fighting in a cage on Spike TV.
Things are crazy. And it boomed, the whole sport blew up.

Speaker 1 And then Chuck Liddell. And then, you know, the sport just exploded from there.
But if Muay Thai doesn't have a Fertidas, you're not going to get that.

Speaker 1 You're not going to get all the stories, all the, you know, this guy. Building stars.
Yeah, all the different. You're just going to see skills.
Do you think Shotri is kind of like a Fertida?

Speaker 1 Yes, he is. And he's doing a great job doing that exact thing in 1 FC, as well as including Jiu-Jitsu.
But

Speaker 1 for whatever reason, it's not that popular in America. It's just not.

Speaker 1 I mean, it does really well in Asia. I don't know anybody outside of hardcore fans that's watching 1FC.
It's not like my friends who are like a carpenter calls me up. Hey, you watching 1 FC tonight?

Speaker 1 Like, it's not a thing. Not in America.
Outside of America, their views are higher than the UFC. Like in Asia and shit, massive.
Huge. Massive.
And they get big crowds.

Speaker 1 They have great fights, too. There's some great fair techs on the forest.
I'm all for more fights. I'm all for more different ways of doing it.

Speaker 1 And I prefer their way of doing it where you have a bunch of different, like you can have a stand-up Muay Thai fight where you're in a cage with little MMA guns Jim Jip has that then they have straight grappling like Mikey Mishameshi was one of the main events underneath that Rutolo brothers Rutolo brothers are so good scary I can't believe how good they are watching the Rutolo brothers after we had them on the pod there yeah they're so ridiculous

Speaker 1 did you watch uh Cade Rutolo versus Andrew Tackett and CJI yes people are calling that the the the most exciting jiu-jitsu match and it didn't even have a finish the most exciting jiu-jitsu match and it didn't even have a finish

Speaker 1 violent dude now both of those guys, Cade Rutolo and Andrew Tackett, both are Combat Jiu-Jitsu World's champions. Imagine them, that fight with fucking strikes.
That'd be dope.

Speaker 1 Although it's a different thing.

Speaker 1 I DM'd Shotri and said, yo, do that in one. They both are champions in Combat Jiu-Jitsu.
They're both into it. Cade even does MMA.
I'm sure what he's doing. Can you imagine that?

Speaker 1 Andrew Tackett versus Cade Rutolo with fucking strikes, dog. What's combat jitsuits? That would be fucking huge.
What is the difference?

Speaker 1 Combat jiu-jitsu is jiu-jitsu with strikes. Okay.
With hand punching or no, no, with just palm strikes. Palm strikes.
So it's like

Speaker 1 a pancreas.

Speaker 1 You can fuck somebody up with your palms. Do we have knockouts and fucking

Speaker 1 TKOs?

Speaker 1 Try to do that with your knuckles. I know.
Try to do that with your knuckles. It's going to hurt.
Ow. And you're not going to.

Speaker 1 Ow, that hurts. Ow.

Speaker 1 You could hit someone pretty fucking hard. That's possible.
Now we have a little time.

Speaker 1 Can I do one little plug? Yeah, of course. Jiu-Jitsu Overdose is my attempt to do like jiu-jitsu Coachella, like a Coachella joint.
Jiu-Jitsu.

Speaker 1 In Cancun in December, we're having jiu-jitsu overdose. I'm having all my shows.
Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, EBI, Medusa, which is female Combat Jiu-Jitsu, and Combat Jiu-Jitsu Mexico.

Speaker 1 Every night, a different show, and during the day, a seminar. Jean-Jacques Machado.
This is it right here. Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, EBI, Medusa.
You gotta stand up there.

Speaker 1 You told me to do that all the time. But you declined.

Speaker 1 It's all over the match.

Speaker 1 You did so much.

Speaker 1 It's too late, late, dog. It's too late.
You had your chance.

Speaker 1 But this is it right here.

Speaker 1 This is it. Jiu-Jitsu Overdose.
It's every night a different jiu-jitsu show. During the day, a different seminar.

Speaker 1 And then at night,

Speaker 1 comedians that do jiu-jitsu. Sam Tripoli, Chingo Bling, we're having.
I asked you, but you were like, your manager said it's not enough money.

Speaker 1 I didn't pay for it.

Speaker 1 It was too cheap.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do it for $25. I've done it for free.
What are you talking about? I didn't charge you.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to be in Denver. And it's going to be a plan and

Speaker 1 you're going to be in Denver. You don't know know where you're going to be? It's going to be

Speaker 1 December 11th

Speaker 1 through December 16th.

Speaker 1 You go to jiu-jitsuoverdose.com, reserve yours. It's going to be a Planet Hollywood, all-inclusive, free.
That means free food, free drinks.

Speaker 1 You get to watch Jiu-Jitsu every night, a seminar every day, and comedy every night. My goal was to create the ultimate jiu-jitsu experience.
That was my goal. I was coaching for jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 Coachella for jiu-jitsu right here. You're crushing that.
I like it. I'm proud of you, brother.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do it

Speaker 1 December. This is the first one.
We're going to do it every December.

Speaker 1 And you know what? What fucking proved that shit for me? PGF. They do,

Speaker 1 it's coming in November. Same thing.
A jiu-jitsu show every night for five nights. Dude, I reffed that shit.
It was so much.

Speaker 1 It was the only vacation I ever took where I could have stayed another week. Every vacation I've ever taken, I couldn't wait to get fucking home.
I would change flights. I wonder if I like tonight.

Speaker 1 I'm like supposed to leave tomorrow. I want to leave tonight.
You know what I mean? I'm going to change my flight for tonight. Every vacation I've ever been on, I was in Hawaii with my family.

Speaker 1 And my wife goes, We changed. We were supposed to leave Saturday afternoon and it's like Friday afternoon.
She goes, I changed the flight for tonight. She didn't say, you're going to be mad.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, but we have to leave. She already knew.
She goes, and she goes, I changed the flight for tonight. I'm like, fuck yeah, let's get the fuck out of Oahu.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I'm done with this shit. Waukei Beach.
Okay, I get it. We went, we do it.

Speaker 1 Dude, we went out on a boat. We went out on a boat to go look at fucking...
Do you talk about this on stage? No. Write it down.

Speaker 1 For real. Eddie, for real, for real, for real.
I don't even know where to start though.

Speaker 1 Do you hate vacation? Yo,

Speaker 1 100%. Dude, we went on.
Okay, we're going to go see fucking sea turtles.

Speaker 1 Like a mile out of the ocean.

Speaker 1 I saw JAWS 1, 2, and 3 when they came out, dog. Bro, Jaws three and three D.
That fucked me up. They gave me PTSD for the ocean.
But my son wanted to go fucking deep sea diving for fucking turtles.

Speaker 1 Yo, I fucking had to suck it up. I'm like, these kids are doing it.
You could do it. You could do it.
These fucking kids are doing it. There was a bunch of kids.
I jumped in the ocean. Ocean.

Speaker 1 Ocean, dog.

Speaker 1 All I kept thinking about was Jaws 3 and 3D.

Speaker 1 I won't do that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not into that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not into that shit. Yeah, of course you did.
I'm not trying to go in the fucking ocean. Tim is like, you're going swimming.
He knows what I know. You deserve it.

Speaker 1 Fuck, you deserve it. I hope Jake Shields is in that water.
I tried to wrestle with him on the beach, too. It didn't go well.
Yeah, good move. Why don't you wrestle Tim Kennedy? But the point was.

Speaker 1 Legitimate psychopath. Oh, my God.
The Jiu-Jitsu black belt, world champion. Good luck.
Special Forces. Special Forces.

Speaker 1 One of the toughest men ever that's ever walked on Earth. Why don't you go hunting with Cam Haynes?

Speaker 1 He was in the fucking water for an hour with no wetsuit on his own. Because he was, dude.
And he wasn't cold. I was in a wetsuit.
15 15 minutes, I was like this.

Speaker 1 That's the type of dude to find out how long you have to be in the water until you're dead. Yeah, right.
And then five minutes before that, he gets out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you ever need to story about him where he swam? He decided, you know.
Oh, yeah, he almost committed suicide. He kind of just swam all the way out.
I mean, the fog was so thick.

Speaker 1 He was swimming for like three hours. He was having trouble moving his legs.
And that's the Morrow Bay. It's a great white breeding ground.
And he's there, you know, in the dawn. He's out there.

Speaker 1 A woman saw him get completely naked and get in the water. What? Yep.
And so she's like, something's not right. And he just kept swimming.
He's like two miles out in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 1 And he's naked.

Speaker 1 Why naked? Because he was like, fuck it. He was like, fuck it.
You got to die. That's the way to die.
So he can't feel his legs. He's just out there.

Speaker 1 And the Coast Guard comes up and they go, What are you doing out here in the drink? And he goes, He starts rattling off his life story. He goes, I fucking got a girl pregnant.

Speaker 1 I got another girl pregnant. I'm all fucked up.
My whole life, I got kicked out of the police force, out of the

Speaker 1 fucking fire department. My life's a mess.

Speaker 1 And that guy goes, Okay, want to you want to sit out here in the drink or you want to come on board and he goes i don't know you know tim and he goes and the guy goes he looks at me goes your dick looks tiny in this water and it made tim so mad that he was like get the fuck off and he climbed up on there and they put a blanket around him and stuff that's a smart dude he knows how to get to it man tim's the one who got me working out again got me sober yeah tim's the dude oh really yeah

Speaker 1 no shit that's awesome i love tim i'm going hunting with him uh two days from now what are you guys hunting deer and partridge and pheasant oh where at? In London. Anytime you want to come.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? In London, huh? So is that road deer? Dude, yeah.

Speaker 1 And do they use dogs to fetch the partridges and shit?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we

Speaker 1 drive the pheasants and the partridge. It's murder in the sky.
Fucking murder. Pheasants are a weird one.
You know, pheasants are a wild bird, but not really. Right.
Like,

Speaker 1 pheasants are a weird one. You know what they do? They have these some places where they do a canned hunt.
And this is when Dick Cheney shot his friend in the face. Oh, yeah.
So it was a scanned hunt.

Speaker 1 Dude, they just have these boxes of birds and they open them up and the birds fly and these old drunk dudes just start blowing them out of the sky. It's kind of lame.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Boom. That's kind of lame.

Speaker 1 It's the lamest.

Speaker 1 But we should hunt. The lamest

Speaker 1 thing of all time. Listening to you, Luke Bryant, when you guys talk about hunting, I've never been into hunting.
I was like, damn, I kind of want to go hunting. Oh, it's so fun.

Speaker 1 That kind of hunting is the kind of hunting that he does and the kind of hunting that I do for sure. I do most, almost all my hunts are mountain hunts.
You ever seen a monk jack?

Speaker 1 You see how small they are? What's a monk jack? So it's a deer and it's literally a full-grown one. It's about

Speaker 1 shooting because they're really hot. Oh, look at those sweetie.
They're so good. Look at those sweetie.
I'd shoot it. Man, we eat it.
I would eat it. They're really elusive.
I'm lying. I would eat it.

Speaker 1 Especially if it was the only thing you could hunt. Yep, and Roebuck.
Oh, that's a baby. Don't get the baby.
You piece of shit. You get the baby.
Bro, you know what's the easiest to hunt?

Speaker 1 You know what's the easiest to hunt? Pigs. When you hunt wild pigs, it's like you're hunting orcs.

Speaker 1 They're making these crazy noises.

Speaker 1 It's easy to kill you.

Speaker 1 There's no killing for you.

Speaker 1 You see their tusks and you see their cover in dirty.

Speaker 1 And I looked at y'all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my boy owns a truffle farm in Italy, right? And they used to hunt, they used to look for truffles with pigs, right? You know why they're doing it? They don't do it anymore. They use dogs now.

Speaker 1 And I was like, why?

Speaker 1 And he goes, oh, because the problem is, before we had pointers, a pig, if you're a truffle farmer 100 you're losing your fingers like it's like every truffle farmer's like hey how you doing nice to meet you they're all missing because you're trying to get the pig out of the way

Speaker 1 because a white one white truffle can cost six thousand dollars right so you'll get you're getting that truffle that's gold right and the pig will eat and the pig you're not getting the pig off that truffle ratchet they'll eat your fingers they will fucking chew right through your fingers they'll

Speaker 1 eat people all the time i think it's one of the number one ways people die on farms they fall into a pig pen yes like an old guy have a heart attack fall into a pig pen.

Speaker 1 They just devour it. It all depends on how you treat the pigs, though.
I don't think so. That regenerative farm that I was at, there was a bunch of pigs, and we hung out with the pigs.

Speaker 1 Oh, like, oh, no, no, no. Tell me about wild.
That was fine.

Speaker 1 That's fine. They were like, I was like, you're going to kill these pigs?

Speaker 1 I think there's an argument for that because if you're in a cage and then the food falls into the cage, like anything on the ground is probably food to them. It's just meat on the ground.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And probably they hate their life because they're in a fucking cage. It was the first time I ever saw pigs on a farm and they fucking, it's true, they love

Speaker 1 like mud puddles. Oh, yeah.
They get they they subshit dude. They love mud puddles, dude.

Speaker 1 I thought that was like a part two and Rakic is a really good fight. It's a great

Speaker 1 striker. Rakic looked really good against Yuri, but Yuri just would not stop coming after him.
Would not stop coming and eventually got him. So you got to wonder like

Speaker 1 this is a tough fight for Ankoliya. It's a tough fight for both guys.
For both of them.

Speaker 1 and koliav's a fucking beast that guy is not getting his due for whatever reason for whatever reason the draw right the draw kind of fucked them a little bit

Speaker 1 with yon but you can't fault him for two of the best guys in the world fighting their heart out and coming to a draw i never heard they do because it wasn't the most exciting fight so they move on it wasn't the most exciting fight because they're both so good no i'm with you

Speaker 1 i don't like tatering to casuals this is why i'm down with eddie's idea and i have the exact same idea. If you talk about keeping the fight going

Speaker 1 at the next round, if you are in the mount, keep it going. I don't think anybody should ever get stood up, ever, for any reason other than a foul.
Why? Exactly. Watch boxing.
Go watch boxing. Exactly.

Speaker 1 They keep them on their feet. If you like

Speaker 1 boxing, they never go to the ground. They never go.
Go watch boxing. If a guy is on top of you and he gouges your eye and there's a foul and they take a point away, fuck yeah, stand him up.

Speaker 1 If you're going to let him keep fighting, or if you're going to disqualify him, disqualify him.

Speaker 1 This is like one of the craziest ones. You remember, what's that girl's name? Priscilla Coshwera? She was getting choked, and I think it was,

Speaker 1 was it Jillian Murphy that got her? I forget who was, I find out who that is. So she just stuck her thumb into her eyeball.

Speaker 1 It's horrible. That's what Paul Harris did to Jake Shields.
But watch this.

Speaker 1 Well, Paul Harris held on to, he gouged a bunch of people, but he also held on to Jake's Kimora. He got him in a Kimura and didn't let go.
Paul Hirsch was known for hanging on to something.

Speaker 1 And then Nate Marcart beat the shit out of him. Can you show me that, Jake?

Speaker 1 I didn't know how to spell her name. I hold on a second.
Dude, how did you remember her fucking last name, Don? Because I commented that fight and I was horrified. I was like, that girl should not.

Speaker 1 No one even knows how to spell it. She should not be fighting.
To defend your take on Koliath, too, about him, you know, not being the most exciting.

Speaker 1 You realize, I was listening, he only shoots once every 15 minutes. On Koli? Yes.
so we're all like, oh, he's this grappler. All he does is wrestle.
No, not really.

Speaker 1 Well, he started shooting on Yuri because Yuri, or excuse me, Yan. He started shooting on Yan because Jan had fucked his legs up.
So here it is. So

Speaker 1 look at that. That's Jillian.
Jillian Robertson. Jillian Robertson.

Speaker 1 Jillian Robertson has her in, she's been on the podcast. She's cool.
Look at this. Look at it.
In the eyeball, bro.

Speaker 1 In the eyeball. That's not right.
Fight or flight there. But that doesn't matter.
You can't ever do that. You can't ever do that.
It's frowned upon.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's that's such a dangerous foul. That's not even like a kick in the nuts foul.
No, that's a

Speaker 1 you could you could ruin someone's eyes. Did they forget how did they notice it? Did they stand on it?

Speaker 1 She's fought since. But Eric Clive, the whole narrative on him being like, oh, just a grappler-born guy.
Not really, man. Most of his stuff's done on the feet.
Yeah. He's a very good striker.

Speaker 1 Well, it all depends. He's on how you look at that stat.
If he says he only takes people down one time every like 15 minutes. Maybe he takes them down and keeps them down for a long time.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You got to factor that. Well, he's only lost one time other than the draw, and that was to Paul Craig.
Paul Craig caught him in a triangle. Triangle.
Like the last second of the time.

Speaker 1 He was winning the entire fight than Paul Craig. Paul Craig.

Speaker 1 Paul Craig got great jiu-jitsu. Great job.
That guy is phenomenal. Yeah.
I love his jitters. He's a triangle.
He's fighting.

Speaker 1 He's fighting Bo Nickel. He's a simple.
I'm very excited. I'm very excited.
What? And at 185. Damn.
Paul Craig's dropped down to 85. He's huge for 85.
He was fighting 205? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 Bo Nickel then. Don't you remember what he did to Jamal?

Speaker 1 I don't remember. He fucked his arm up.
Remember? He broke his arm. I'm not like you.
Before Jamal was a champion. He was remembering everything from the UFC.
You guys are retarded.

Speaker 1 Remember, you guys know everything. It's literally my job.
Dude, I was like, Jesus Christ. It's one of my jobs.
It's kind of mine, too.

Speaker 1 We'll both have jobs. Doe, you guys need to have like a separate MMA show, man.

Speaker 1 The job is way more than I do. The UFC is like the only thing that I have ever done that doesn't feel like a job.
That's an actual job. Like, I get a check.
I can't get a job.

Speaker 1 But it's about remembering shit. Like, I put on shows like EBI, I was the ref for all those fights.
I don't remember any of them. I was standing right there.

Speaker 1 And people are like, dude, you refed my fight. I'm like, who are you? Like, do I know you?

Speaker 1 No, no, I suffer from that. I don't remember shit.
I suffer from that too. But you know what that is.
You gotta see it again.

Speaker 1 You gotta see them over and over. So what I wanna know, when do you guys, what, at night or in the morning, do you guys review fights? It's all I listen to.
It's all I consume. No, but like at night?

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 if I watch fights, it's purely for entertainment unless it's getting ready for an event. Like, when you get ready for an event, what do you do?

Speaker 1 What's there's like, say, there's some cat on the car that I haven't seen fight before, I'll go search his name on YouTube and watch all of that.

Speaker 1 And then I watch, like, yeah, I'll watch like the LFA finals. No, I do it in my head, mostly in my head.

Speaker 1 It's incredible how you guys, like, when you guys start going off YouTube, I don't even want to jump in. I'm like, I don't know shit.
Like, I don't remember anything from,

Speaker 1 bro. But I have so many friends that are like, they know all these things about sports.
I don't know who anybody is unless they marry someone famous.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know who anybody is unless they get arrested. So I have to do something.
That's why I was surprised I saw you at the Texas game. I had a great time.
But my wife is a big football fan.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And Hinchcliffe's a big football fan, and so is Ron Weiss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, bro, the excitement. Oh, here we go.
The excitement of being at a giant college football game is fucking.

Speaker 1 There's nothing like it, bro. It was awesome.
The energy is awesome. See, I think Rackett can get it done.
Even though he's on two-fight losing skid, it's still a tough fucking fight for Ant Live.

Speaker 1 You never can count guys out when they're on skids. You know, look at Charles Oliveira.
Remember when Charles Oliveira was on that skid? Yeah. And then all of a sudden he was losing.

Speaker 1 Look at Max Holloway. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Max, it was just Alexander Volkanovsky. But still, Volkanovsky just had his number.
And that's Volkanovsky in the peak of his performance. But I don't even know if he had his number.

Speaker 1 Those fights were so close. It could have have been a lot of time.
Well, I thought that the third one, he made it clear. The second one, I thought Max won on to.
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 But Volkanovsky and the third one ran away with it. And that's when a lot of people start thinking that the best days of Max are behind him.

Speaker 1 But that's also Max not sparring, which is really interesting. Because then you see Max gets ready for the Gauchi fight and he starts sparring again.
And then you see this

Speaker 1 completely different Max. Dude, but it was even before that.
Korean zombie was before that. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Look, Max is a monster, man, and he's not old. He's 32.
Like, he's still 20 years. And he's 30.
It's not like they're young kids. Exactly.
Look at Alex Barrera. He's 37.

Speaker 1 He's smart, though, because he knows

Speaker 1 the clock's ticking. So he's trying to just monetize it.
But the thing is, like,

Speaker 1 I'll fight him. I'll fight him.
People were thinking, and I was probably guilty of it myself, that that Justin Gage fight was scary to me because, like, damn, Gage is so big. Oh, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm on record going. Max, why? Why? Please don't worry about it.
I was just worried about

Speaker 1 that one. But you see his performance and you're like, oh, oh, oh, we got to recalculate and recalibrate and remember Max, like, when he beat up Calvin Cater.

Speaker 1 We got to remember Max when he was piecing up José Aldo.

Speaker 1 Twice, Bubba. Yeah, bro.
His war with Dustin Poirier. Yeah, well, no, no, no.
Dustin Poirier pieced up. That's a bad one.
Dustin pieced him up. Hey,

Speaker 1 in regards to it. It's still a war, dude.
And regardless of the city of the city. No, no, no, no, no.
That was not a war. That was not a war.
Dan Hooker and Dustin Poirier was a war.

Speaker 1 Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier was Dustin Poirier. That was tough to watch.
Run away off. But Dustin got tagged up.
He still

Speaker 1 said I left a piece of myself in there. No, no, you're thinking of a different fight.
You left a piece of yourself in there?

Speaker 1 I bet that was Dan Hooker, you're thinking of it. Yeah, Dustin fucked him up.
It was rough to watch. That Dan Hooker fight was bananas.
Yes. Dustin and Dan Hooker went to war.

Speaker 1 It was just back and forth. There's a video of it with no commentary on YouTube.
And you're watching it. You go, Jesus, because it's at the apex.
And you're just hearing rip, rip, rip, rip.

Speaker 1 But those guys duked it out. Dustin just squeaked, he squeaked by with that one.
Dude, how about

Speaker 1 such a close fight? How about Hooker Connor? Is that real, though? Well, Connor and Hooker said it's real, but Dana's like. Look at this, bro.

Speaker 1 This is no commentary. Listen to this shit.
It's crazy. It's just brutal.

Speaker 1 Come on, take off, take it off.

Speaker 1 Fucking sliming.

Speaker 1 I'm not striking.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. Yeah, look how big Rackic is, dude.
That back.

Speaker 1 Striking in regards to sparring. Striking, I really am no expert in striking when you're training for a fight and sparring.
But in grappling,

Speaker 1 if you're going to do Abu Dhabi, if you're going to do ADCC, you're going to do EBI.

Speaker 1 If you're not fucking sparring with the hardest guys you can find every day, you have no chance. In grappling, you have no chance.
Same with striking. You have no chance.
I I think you're spot on.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking fact. I mean, you're striking, I don't know, because it's

Speaker 1 right. You're right.

Speaker 1 What they're trying to do is minimize the biggest threat, which is head injuries. You can't.
In striking, I get it. If you don't spar, you just drill.
But in grappling, you have no shot.

Speaker 1 But you know, zero.

Speaker 1 You don't need to be striking either, really, because it's like being a firefighter and not

Speaker 1 training in hot environments. Well, you know what? The Dutch guys have to

Speaker 1 have to.

Speaker 1 What the Dutch guys do is they don't go hard to the head. So they go real hard to the legs and to the body and they pull punches to the face.
Don't Muay Thai guys do the same thing when they touch it?

Speaker 1 Muay Thai guys do the opposite. They play.
They play hard. No, no, no, no, no.
They play. Muay Thai guys in Thailand because they fight every week.

Speaker 1 So you can't afford to be all fucked up. You're watching Muay Thanksgiving.
They're sparring, he's actually fighting.

Speaker 1 Well, when they, yeah,

Speaker 1 right. But they

Speaker 1 spar, but when they spar, they spar like a lot of times with no pads. But they don't need to, right, Joe? Because

Speaker 1 they have so many fights. It's unlike this.
They have so many fights. Who are they?

Speaker 1 In UFC history, who sparred striking the hardest? Vanderlane, Erison Silva, Kurdoom. Oh, yeah.
They sparred hard, right? Shane Carwin.

Speaker 1 Me and Shane Carwin. Oh, you guys.
If you want to see some real sparring, watch some of those guys, some of those boxers. Like some of those Mexican boxers.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Strickland spars all the time, right? Striking? All the time. Strickland's number one.
He's number one. He spars more than he does anything, they say.

Speaker 1 And look how calm he is in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.

Speaker 1 So he's doing it. That kind of cardio is a different kind of cardio.

Speaker 1 They're constant, and you've seen the way strickland spars he melts basically fights yeah he fights people especially if you start melting you gotta spar you gotta spar

Speaker 1 you know who sparred hard as fuck was uh tj dillishaw oh yeah he's sad oh yeah all those alpha male god

Speaker 1 and even even like

Speaker 1 can you imagine you're trying to win every mentality yeah can you imagine trying to win a wrestling championship and you're not sparring it's impossible impossible impossible but i think guys were just trying to figure out how to minimize getting head trauma there's a way to do it you got got to spar with people who you trust.

Speaker 1 It is tough.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can come out unscathed. It's just what you're doing.
No, no, no. You cannot come out unscathed.
But you can minimize the damage if you spar with people that you trust.

Speaker 1 That they know they're going to get you. They'll hit you with a little of that and not like full clip.
Try to find you.

Speaker 1 I watched that

Speaker 1 better B-ball fight. And even when B-ball had his hands up, he would get hit in the gloves and his spine would still take the reverberation.

Speaker 1 That was a very interesting fight. It's such an interesting boxing match between

Speaker 1 the Russian style of amateur boxing, so sophisticated, just like their wrestling program.

Speaker 1 So sophisticated. And to see those two tacticians.
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Speaker 1 939 and storming the gates in the fucking 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds. Oh,

Speaker 1 Yvald was getting in trouble in the latter half of the fight. Brennan, you're right, man.

Speaker 1 Uncle Live's first thought is just to strike, man. Yeah, yeah, so the narrative of him being like this, you know, boring grappler, striker, doesn't get a title shot.

Speaker 1 You're like, yeah, if you look at the stats, he's actually more of a striker.

Speaker 1 He said he wanted to stand with Pereira. He said Pereira doesn't have a chin.
That's a bad idea. This is fucking fun for us.
What are you talking about? Oh, take my shit. Shut up, Brendan.

Speaker 1 You're ruining everything. You ruined the Kamala thing.
You ruined the Kamala thing, man. You ruined this? I'm sorry.
I'm off my game. Bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a big fan of Uncle Iv. I think he got a real raw deal.
I think the Yambohovich fight is not his fault. It was a great fight, and I thought he did what he had to do to win.

Speaker 1 He took him to the ground because his fucking leg was gone. What do you want to do? Get a concussion? But I also get from Dana White in the UFC.
It's like, he had a shot. Let's keep going.

Speaker 1 You know, these guys have similar stuff. Man, I think you got to be a purist.
I think the best guys have to fight the best guys, period. And that's one of the fucking best guys for sure.

Speaker 1 And the fact that he's not always in the conversation of who to fight next for the title, but he's been talking shit, and now Pereira's mad at him.

Speaker 1 And so Pereira is telling him like he's got to have to wait

Speaker 1 yeah the UFC of Force had

Speaker 1 so far he's losing this fight yeah but the problem with that if you don't if you make Pereira angry you have a real problem on your hands he's terrifying he's the most terrifying

Speaker 1 way he's enormous but it's the skill man it's the skill correct standing right there

Speaker 1 oh my gosh right in his face he kept just right in his face

Speaker 1 sliding away from punches and landing thudding blows did you hear what mark otter told me he never heard a sound like that right He said ungodly.

Speaker 1 20 years of refereeing fights, terrible Mark Goddard impression. I didn't know.
It was ungodly.

Speaker 1 Ungodly, the sound. Ungodly.

Speaker 1 He made sure he came over to me to tell me that. Like with this look in his eyes, it's ungodly.
I heard it. I was cage side.
It was fucking crazy. Bro, he hits so hard.
Pierre's a special dude, man.

Speaker 1 He's built different, man. I'm telling you, there's something different.
You see his sister, too? God damn. She's got the same skills as him, man.
That left hook KO in karate combat.

Speaker 1 She's fucking nasty.

Speaker 1 I hope she gets signed to the UFC too that would be crazy the two the Pereira sister wins a title and he wins a title main event what if it's the same way what if she storms the gates too and just starts fucking lighting people up on the bottom speaking of women's event Tatiana Suarez is out again she's injured she's been injured so many times I know that poor girl she's so third out too I know she's so good dude it's a bummer people keep forgetting about her they shouldn't Tatiana's only one of the best female wrestlers to ever compete in the sport man she's so dominant yeah

Speaker 1 it sucks they keep getting hurt look at, I mean, we were talking about TJ. Oh, that was a nice left hand.
That's a great left hand. Oh, he just caught him.

Speaker 1 TJ Dillshaw. TJ Dillshaw got ruined because of injuries, man.

Speaker 1 You know why? Because he went so fucking

Speaker 1 paint.

Speaker 1 You want to talk about Kobe mentality in MMA? Nothing close. Well, if you get an inch on him, he would

Speaker 1 sneak him with one leg. Do you remember that? Dude, somebody would get some on him in training, and it's literally, he was like a, he couldn't just let it go.
He said his whole family was like that.

Speaker 1 They would race on the way home. Say, who gets gets home first? Savage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said his family is super, super competitive. He's a great dude.
He's crushing. His supplements are good.
Is he really? Yeah, I just. I'm happy for him.
I keep seeing him.

Speaker 1 Supplements are good. What does that mean? He makes supplements.

Speaker 1 He has like protein powder, like healthy protein powder. Doesn't everybody? No.

Speaker 1 Well, he's just saying,

Speaker 1 Eddie, that his business is doing well. I'm saying

Speaker 1 he owns it. It's his business.
Oh, it's his business. Yeah, okay.
I thought you meant to be a bad guy. He sent me a bunch of the protein powder.
Oh, you thought he was like taking stuff. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, doesn't everybody take shit? No. That's hilarious.
That's hilarious. No, he has a company.
He has like a seasoning company, too. Doesn't he have like a wild game seasoning company?

Speaker 1 I think so. What if every UFC fighter just got on like a stem cell

Speaker 1 regimen? Oh, my God. Imagine

Speaker 1 it was this standard. It was a standard.

Speaker 1 If the FDA didn't regulate it the way they do, if they just allow what the CGI is doing down in Tijuana, they allow that to do it. CPI.
CPI. CPI.

Speaker 1 What is CPI? CPI, Cellular Performance Institute. Ed Clay.
What do you think of overall? I just talked to them. No, they just send people to TJ CPI like on the regular.
Because it's really cool.

Speaker 1 But listen, Eddie, they should be able to do that in Vegas at the fucking performance.

Speaker 1 They should have it at the fucking. Right after the fucking camera.
They won't allow that. They won't allow that.
No, no, no, no. They should and they will.
Eventually, they will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because enough people are going to get healed by it where they realize it can save people from all sorts of problems, neurological conditions.

Speaker 1 It radically repairs tissue damage, soft tissue damage. Yes.

Speaker 1 I just heard

Speaker 1 one of the biggest fighters of all time, for some reason, I'm not allowed to say his name, but one of the biggest fighters of all time. Does his name

Speaker 1 with George Simpier? No. Yeah.
That's what I was going to call him. No, no.

Speaker 1 Bigger, way bigger than that.

Speaker 1 Way bigger than that one. George Simpier.
Wait a minute. That's impossible.
Went to CPI in Tijuana

Speaker 1 and is about to have a fight, and it's going to be Floyd. I ain't going to say that.
Why can't we? I ain't going to say that. Oh, for some reason.
It's Mike Tyson. Oh, it's Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 It was the secret. It's Mike Tyson.
How do you know? Like, how would you know?

Speaker 1 I would say that.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say that. I would say

Speaker 1 who the fuck is bigger than you? It's Mike Tyson. Who's big than George Savior? Mike Tyson.
No, way bigger. That's not true.
There's nobody else way bigger than George Savior than Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 Who? Joe.

Speaker 1 Joey Baltrans.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's 100% Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 It's Mike Tyson. Joe, does it matter where you say that? Where do you shoot him in?

Speaker 1 No, you shoot him into your dick mostly. That's what I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to

Speaker 1 spot wherever the injury is.

Speaker 1 It's in your knee. They put it in your knee.

Speaker 1 It fixed both my shoulders.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'm lifting like a motherfucker because of the fucking stamp stop. They fixed.
I was going to have surgery on this torn labrum. Surgery.
And what happened? They shot it up like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Went down a TJ?

Speaker 1 Did you know there's a part of TJ that's nice? I didn't know that. I heard.
I heard. I feel you shouldn't be telling her.
I thought it was all favela. I went down there.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I feel like I'm in West L.A. That's where all the off-road companies are at, like McNeil Racing, all that shit.
Joe I've got to go. Don't touch this area.

Speaker 1 Round three, boys, this is heating up.

Speaker 1 Uncle Iv is actually connecting more. He is.
It's a good fight. It's probably 1-1.
Oh, wow. Let's hook over the top.
I think Uncle Iv is actually. No, Racket won that first round.
Did he? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now, I have been talking about stem cells, but I think you won the first. How many times have you done stem cells, Joe? Oh, dozens.
Really? Yeah, I'm still doing it.

Speaker 1 We still do in the United States once. It's different.
Yeah, it's definitely different. No, no, no.
There's a reason why CPI is in Tijuana because what they're doing, dog. The real shit.

Speaker 1 They're doing some shit that they're doing. 100%.
It's different. And then there's also Panama, Neil Reardon's place is Panama.
They're doing a similar shit.

Speaker 1 And then there's the other place in Colombia that's really good. Biotechnology.
If they allowed it in the United States, what they're doing at CPI, they wouldn't be in TJ.

Speaker 1 They're only in TJ because they have to. So what do you get in TikTok? This is what I'm going to examine.
Injuries. Not trends.
Injuries. There's a lot of people that have

Speaker 1 helped with neurological conditions. Like they're doing IV stem cells with people that have like certainly.
Talent. I can hook you up.
I can hook you up easily.

Speaker 1 I just talked about it. I don't think

Speaker 1 everything's wrong with you. I'm 57.
You need some stems, dog. You need some stems.
Is it the limp? Stop lying.

Speaker 1 Everything's wrong. How's your dick work? Is it working fine? My dick works very well.
Is it good? Okay. I'm waiting.
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Can they do something for Callan's hair down there? Hey, man. Hey, that's the next phase.
The next thing with stems is hair regrowth and

Speaker 1 dick stems. Dick stems, dog.
They're working on dick stems. Like, it's going to make your dick bigger and fucking stronger.
Wow. I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Imagine if

Speaker 1 bushes came back. If bushes came back, people tired.
They like shaved pussy. Oh, God.
Shaved balls. No, man.
So let's go naturale.

Speaker 1 Go back to. Maybe it'll be like more attractive to people.

Speaker 1 What was another thing for a while? Was going to be a little bit more. You shaved your balls to an 8.

Speaker 1 70s and shave your balls.

Speaker 1 Dude, now, especially because there's so much gray.

Speaker 1 I go down to a Brazilian wax place. A Brazilian.
Oh, you have to. And I go, don't wax me.
Can you trim me instead? And dude, I get trimmed.

Speaker 1 Did they put your legs up like a baby? Everything. Congratulations.
They trim my whole body. She's a manscape.
But I don't want to do that. Is that a guy?

Speaker 1 A girl dog. That's a good idea.
I wouldn't do a guy. That's one of my ladies.

Speaker 1 That's an old Russian lady.

Speaker 1 An old Russian lady trims my balls.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's legal. You should probably not tell that to people on the left.
No, no, it's legal. It's totally legal.
Oh, another shot. He's winning this round.
Oh, Uncle I wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 And Clive's kind of taking over. Well, Rocket has a tendency sometimes to fade.
Rocket? It's a lot of muscle. Because he's so fast.
A lot of muscle. A lot of fast twitch.

Speaker 1 It's so hard for those big jack guys to keep a high pace. Yep.
Oh, wrestling now.

Speaker 1 That's going to be tough. A single leg.

Speaker 1 He's no punk. He's not a bad move.

Speaker 1 He's not doing so good in the stand-up. At least this slows it down a little.

Speaker 1 But when you're down, you need to finish.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he might be in survival mode here.

Speaker 1 He got tagged. The thing is, when guys know they're on slippery slopes and they'll take a dive in for a clinch, this is why boxers get killed more than UFC fighters.
Correct. You know,

Speaker 1 you have options that can preserve you. Also, the whole knockdown thing and counting to 10.
Clearly concussed. 100%.
Clearly. Yeah, especially like Francis.
Yeah. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 They let him fight in that next round. Wild, dude.

Speaker 1 In MMA, it would most likely be over. Yeah, unless the clock was running down.
Someone dives on top of you, hammer fists you a couple times.

Speaker 1 That's why I think with Topiria, I think we're going to see more grappling. I think he's

Speaker 1 grappling's now. He's so complete, man.
He's so complete, but he's also like super cocky, and Max is a real warrior, man. He's the real

Speaker 1 advantage on the feed. Who knows? He's got length, that's for sure.
And experience. Ilya is so fast, and he's so lethal when he gets inside.
So technically. And every shot is so dangerous.

Speaker 1 Such a good boxer. Every shot can put you away.
The way he put away out. I know Alex was coming off of that knockout loss to Islam, but it was still.
Because

Speaker 1 the way he knocked out Jai Herbert after he got headkicks in the first round,

Speaker 1 bro. It's hard to see the subtleties, too, when you're that good, like where they put their feet, the tables,

Speaker 1 and the way he survived Ryan Hall's jiu-jitsu onslaught. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That right there. It's like, whoa.
Look what did Ryan Hall's jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 He rolled with Ryan Hall, and he goes, it's like rolling with fucking water, like a wave.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but think about what Topira did to fucking

Speaker 1 Brian Mitchell. Oh, yeah.
Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Bryce, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a savage, yeah. Rag Daldim.
Ragdaldham. He's dangerous.
He's really fucking dangerous. What's up? Isn't Bryce mainly a jiu-jitsu? That's all he is.
Bryce's got good stand-up, man.

Speaker 1 He knocks down Neds and Barboza. Yeah.
Remember? Like, his stand-up's not that bad. It's just his jiu-jitsu.
He's known for his real good. Real good.

Speaker 1 His stand-up's good. How awesome is Bryce Mitchell's persona? It's hilarious.

Speaker 1 I always thought he was just a farmer, like from the get, but he's

Speaker 1 a city guy whose grandma was a farmer.

Speaker 1 And then he'd go visit his grandma and it's like dude i want to live like this he was a city dude yeah i always thought he was just a farmer just based on what you see on instagram but he became a farmer because he had his his grandma was a farmer you ever heard him rap he's a no no he can

Speaker 1 dude he's got bars dog dude i believe it dude no he can rap he can rap yeah

Speaker 1 i think akali of guys oh this

Speaker 1 there might be video out there jamie of uh bryce mitchell rapping. I watched him this morning.
Oh, you did? He's good.

Speaker 1 He's good, but check this out.

Speaker 1 There's one of him. Check this out.
No, there's one of him freestyle. Pastor Fire.
Perfect. Already it's great.

Speaker 1 He can rap, dude. Can he? Yes.
Watch.

Speaker 1 Yo, he says 413,000 views.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of views, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm from Arkansas. Fuck it, did Arkansas light at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's crazy.

Speaker 1 Jamie, find one freeze.

Speaker 1 I'll wait till Jamie gets back.

Speaker 1 You like this, yo, fuck?

Speaker 1 That's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 There's one with him with Chris Mitchell. Yeah, he can fucking freestyle.
Dude, he goes all the way. Okay, who won this fight? Uncle Live? Ain't Clive all day.
I'm going to go with the beard guy.

Speaker 1 100% Uncle Live.

Speaker 1 But, you know, decisions are sketched. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially.

Speaker 1 We've had some decisions that were

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 a lot of the day. What do you think is more corrupt? Vegas decisions or Abu Dhabi? Abu Dhabi.
You think? Oh, all day. Really? Oh, yeah.
I think they bring the same judges everywhere, man. They drink

Speaker 1 shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't think Abu Dhabi got some Muslim judges I don't know I don't think I don't know what the rules are I think in some places

Speaker 1 I know they do referees in some places so like say if you go to a state like Kentucky for example you have to use a certain amount of state referees and some of them aren't aren't really qualified to be doing a UFC like that happened in Salt Lake City yep a guy a guy got pulled from the rest of the card he tied to a vasa yeah he the guy

Speaker 1 This is a different one in Salt Lake City recently. Do you know which one I'm talking about with a Titu Avasa? No.
Where the card was always always in Australia.

Speaker 1 The dude gave it like 10-8 for Taitu Avasa. He clearly lost the fight.
They literally kicked him out after the fight. Oh, that's right.
That's another one. Yeah, that was a judge they did that to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 1 You got to do that. When someone gives a crazy decision like that, where everybody's like, shut the fuck up.
But what I was talking about is referees.

Speaker 1 So this referee did a real, he kept separating people like instantly. They clinch, instantly separate them.
As soon as the crowd would boo,

Speaker 1 break it up, start fighting again. And everybody's like, what are you doing? He missed missed a nut shot or an eye poke.
I forgot which one it is. But they kicked that guy out.

Speaker 1 So it does happen occasionally.

Speaker 1 They have to be really bad. Judges, for the most part, I think are the same.
I think they're like our traveling judges.

Speaker 1 I think the judges they think are the good judges. You think?

Speaker 1 I think some of them are good judges.

Speaker 1 Some of them are good judges, but every now and then you get a decision where you're like, whoever the fuck thought the fight went that way really shouldn't be doing this at a professional level.

Speaker 1 And they don't have to take any accountability.

Speaker 1 They do.

Speaker 1 Not really. They're inspired.
but yeah, maybe, but it's rare. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 They should have some sort of spokesman, the same as the president does, that comes out and they ask questions. How the fuck did you score that 10A?

Speaker 1 And they're like, well, he said he scored it because of this. And you go, okay, that at least makes sense.
I feel like three is too little. Three opinions is just not enough.

Speaker 1 I think Glory has four or five. I think you should have five.

Speaker 1 Shouldn't they be fighters too? Shouldn't they have some fight experience?

Speaker 1 100%. But what about where do they sit? Where are they watching? Well, they have to at least be practitioners.

Speaker 1 If you don't do jiu-jitsu, you don't know what the fuck is going on. So you don't know if it's close or not close.
You don't know if a guy's fine or if a guy's in deep shit. You really don't know.

Speaker 1 You don't know what you're looking at. You're looking at it.
It's like listening to someone speak French and you don't speak French.

Speaker 1 I guess they're talking. I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
If you see people scrambling and you don't know what's going on, you just see two bodies whirling around.

Speaker 1 But if you're Eddie Bravo, you see exactly what's going on. You see when a guy's in trouble.

Speaker 1 If you're judging and you can't differentiate between those two things, you have no business judging.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question. I think the point is

Speaker 1 like this is the conspiracy. The people at the top,

Speaker 1 the casinos and all the betting, they want you to blame the judges and not blame them. So they put in incompetent people.
I never met a bookie with a part-time job.

Speaker 1 But where are you? I think incompetent judges are very important.

Speaker 1 Where are they?

Speaker 1 They see Cape Side. They should be in a lot of money.
There's a lot lot of money,

Speaker 1 too, because that's the best thing. Well, there definitely is that.
Do you remember that there was a lady that she was responsible for a couple real bad boxing decisions? That

Speaker 1 was a bird. No, no, no, no.
That was

Speaker 1 a nice lady.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Adelaide Bird.
No, Adelaide Bird is a nice lady. Okay.
She's just

Speaker 1 no martial arts experience.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's like me teaching flight school.

Speaker 1 I've been on a plane. Fuck it.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 I love Adelaide Bird. Come on.

Speaker 1 Nice lady. I love her.
She's a sweetheart. But yeah.

Speaker 1 Me and Dan Covier

Speaker 1 and her name came up. He goes, oh, Adelaide Bird.
I go, she's a nice lady. She's a wonderful lady.
She's a wonderful.

Speaker 1 She's a nice lady. But yeah, her decision.

Speaker 1 If you're a professional and you're fighting for the title and one judge sees it correctly and then she sees it wildly incorrectly and then another judge sees it incorrectly. Life changes.

Speaker 1 First of all, I wouldn't have together. I know.
118-110 decision in favor of Canelo.

Speaker 1 Adelaide Bird. Oh, boy.
Oh, Adelaide. She's a good girl.
She's a nice lady. I would never have them sit together.

Speaker 1 She's a nice person. You just want to judge herself.
That was the Canelo fight where it looked like Triple G beat him. That was bad.
Yeah, the first fight, Triple G, in my mind, beat him.

Speaker 1 Nothing's more correct. What's the latest with Triple G? I know.
He's old. He's old.
It's over.

Speaker 1 There's nothing, not one more big thing for him. No.
Well, nothing. He looked playing with the ID.
He looked a little juicy in his last fight. How is he? 42? 42.

Speaker 1 42 already? He's still fighting. I think he's won some

Speaker 1 title.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it a title? Some strange title? It's over. Tyson fight's still going on.
Yeah. That's still going on.
Well, you know, you were watching him get stem cells, you son of a girl. I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 I didn't say shit.

Speaker 1 God damn. You got caught, dude.
I didn't say shit. I wasn't supposed to say anything.
Eddie had the best take. Ah, now you really said it.
No, but.

Speaker 1 But I didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 I didn't say anything. We got you, son.
We leaked it out of you.

Speaker 1 but Eddie had the best take on that Tyson Jake Paul thing he was like if you want to get people intrigued which nobody is if you want to get people intrigued you do it bare knuckle yeah you're telling me you're over

Speaker 1 if you found out Mike Tyson was gonna punch somebody bare knuckle and it's Jake Paul I think bare knuckle saves boxing you just just make it bare knuckle Fuck the big ass pillows. Yeah, but then deep.

Speaker 1 How much do you think Mike Perry versus Jake Paul would have been different? It was bare knuckle?

Speaker 1 It'd be way different. I don't know who'd win, but but damn, dude.
It is different. It would have been a bare knuckle.
Bare knuckle, dude. Bare knuckle cuts, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 So, when you're here, if somebody's hooking you and you have gloves on, this protects you. Of course.
Who wants to?

Speaker 1 That's what the audience

Speaker 1 protects. You think the audience is looking for

Speaker 1 protection?

Speaker 1 It's not just that, Brian. It hurts your arms.
We're looking for knocks.

Speaker 1 It hurts your arms if you get punched in the arms. It fucking

Speaker 1 easily. Oh, yeah.
Look at this. Look at this, boys.
No, it's not. Look at this, boys.
Look at Hamzat. Do you remember the ultimate player crazy move?

Speaker 1 You remember when Hamzat was fighting Gilbert Burns? And as Gilbert's walking out, he's on top of the

Speaker 1 waiting. And then had a fight of his life.

Speaker 1 Gilbert was like, oh, really? Bro, that was number three in the middle of the morning. Gilbert was prime.
Gilbert's no joke. When Gilbert dropped him, I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 But Hamzat's got harmonized.

Speaker 1 Look at him talking here on Kevin Hot. No, you listen to the interview with that Brett Akamoto, and he actually sounds...

Speaker 1 He drops the whole Arogans thing. You're like, oh, this dude's a real one.
Bro, the Kevin Kevin Holland fight was bananas. He hit the gas.
Like, he drained the gas tank right away.

Speaker 1 He just dove on him, took him down, forced a bunch of scrambles and caught him in a tank. Tough for Kevin Holland, too.
He's supposed to fight a striker literally

Speaker 1 like hours before he switched it. Yeah, remember

Speaker 1 that. All these emotions because they got in a brawl in the fucking weigh-ins.
They get in a brawl during the weigh-ins. They're like, okay, you want to fight for real, for real?

Speaker 1 And so all of a sudden, Kevin Holland's like, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
And then remember, I asked him, I go, is this a bet or five view? He goes, fuck no.

Speaker 1 I got $100 on Whitaker right now. I'll put the money on $100 on Whitaker.
I'm not. $100.
$100. I'm not even allowed to bet.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with Chamayev. Okay, $100? Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 I don't have it. Hold on.
I'll Venmetting.

Speaker 1 I don't do Venmo. Brian, how much does Brian owe you?

Speaker 1 $20 to $24. How much does he owe you for all the losses? I don't even know what you're saying.
No, no, no, that's not true. I haven't lost that much.
You're ahead now. You're ahead at this point.

Speaker 1 $2,000, Bubba. No, I'm down $5,000, $50,000.

Speaker 1 Do Do you have a ledger anywhere where you keep track of your losses? I'm down 5,000. I don't want to talk about it right now.
You don't give it to him, though? You don't give him the 5,000?

Speaker 1 I'm temporarily ahead.

Speaker 1 But wouldn't we feel better if you gave him the money? We pay each other. We pay each other.

Speaker 1 You owe them money. Wouldn't it be nice if we just gave him that money? You owe them?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't it feel better? You can bet during a fight combat? I am not allowed to bet. You can legally

Speaker 1 joking. Yeah, the UFC literally, because you know the whole thing with the betting with the trainer called the fed.
Yeah, you know that story.

Speaker 1 Because of that, that no one's allowed to bet okay no one all right that's a good but eddie you can bet brian joe just can't bet i need to see the mic i used to bet

Speaker 1 in the early bets of the ufc

Speaker 1 i'm old school when i first started working for the ufc especially when i wasn't even getting paid i'd bet on fights because no one knew what the was going on there was these guys coming in from russia i was like you don't even know who this is like what are the odds this is the stupidest odds of all time yeah brazilian guys would come in and the odds makers had no idea who the guy was yeah they get told by someone that you see the matchup you're like oh this guy's gonna smoke this guy.

Speaker 1 Apollo Philo is actually pretty good. Aubrey and I were like at 84% at one point, Tom.

Speaker 1 Because I had quit gambling on it because I realized, like, this is a little sketchy. Even though they tell me, like, it's, I can't affect the outcome.

Speaker 1 But it's weird if I have money riding on a fighter and people already think I'm biased. I'm like, probably don't do that.
So I stopped doing it. So I'd give advice to Aubrey.

Speaker 1 I'd pick, and we were 84%.

Speaker 1 Balling. There was a few that I was like, 100%.

Speaker 1 This one, all the money on Anderson's open.

Speaker 1 84%. Like Anderson and his fucking debut.
Anderson and his debut. I mean, that was the one.
I was like, bet the house. Wait, when he fought

Speaker 1 Cleban? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, bet the house on the Brazilian. Bet the house.

Speaker 1 This was after Anderson became Anderson in Cage Warriors. Remember? Yep.
Was it Cage Warriors? Cage Warriors. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So when he went over there and he fought Lee Murray and then he fought Tony Fricklin, he hit him with that crazy upward elbow that his coach told him to stop practicing

Speaker 1 so he could make his wife hold a pillow when he got home and he was practicing that, standing there and stepping forward. And he wanted to knock him out with that.

Speaker 1 Like, he had this in his head that that's what he was going to do. That's weird.
But that's obsession. The Jorge Rivera fight.
Remember that? Oh, my God. Oh, shit.
Here it is.

Speaker 1 Another day, another day in the office.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Oh, he's fired up, dude.
Are you kidding me? He hasn't fought in a long time. How long has it been? Let's calm down.
God, it's been at least a year. Yeah.
Who was the last guy he fought?

Speaker 1 Kevin Holland. And what happened? He submitted him really easily.
Very quickly. No, last fight was Kamara Ozman.
Oh, that's right. You're right.
That was a year ago.

Speaker 1 That was one year ago. So that's right.

Speaker 1 And that was the decision? That was a decision. That was the one when Kamaro was like, I should have picked five.
If it was five, it'd have been a tough fight for him.

Speaker 1 This is real interesting because it all depends on

Speaker 1 whether first

Speaker 1 five rounds. This is a five-round fight, which is huge.
Whitaker's hard to like, in the first round, he's probably

Speaker 1 nominated. Whitaker beat Yoel Romero.
Correct. Who was the all-time scariest wrestler that ever competed in MMA? Correct.

Speaker 1 And Whitaker's not one of of those guys where if he's down on the cards, he's going to just pack it up. But Romero didn't really take people down.

Speaker 1 Romero would conserve a lot of his energy, explode on you, and smash you. If he wanted to.
He never took anybody down. Very rarely.
Like,

Speaker 1 he took down Izzy and didn't hold him down. Took Wyboon down.
Yeah. He never used his wrestling thing.
Hardly, because it was a conserving energy thing. Because his thing was always exploding on you.

Speaker 1 Like he did with Wyboon. He hit him in that flying knee.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. But that flying knee he hit Wyboon with.
Oh, Christ.

Speaker 1 There's so much much blood on the mats, dog.

Speaker 1 That was the worst part of the fight. There's blood all over the mats.
When you're doing that circle around the ring and you see that warm blood beneath your fucking feet.

Speaker 1 And you're like, boy, what am I doing? Yeah. I go, what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 1 Damn, there might be COVID in that blood. I hope not.
Maybe monkeypox, even worse.

Speaker 1 Dude, how quickly did monkeypox die? They tried twice, they tried twice, twice, dude. The WHO said, yo, worldwide emergency.

Speaker 1 No more butt fucking. Yeah.
No it's crazy. It's ass eating.
Is it ass eating?

Speaker 1 How does it get on your dick if it's ass eating? Because you don't just eat ass. I don't think it's easy.
You go crazy. Yeah, you'll stop.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's just ass eating.

Speaker 1 That's how you get to

Speaker 1 four gay dudes. They ate so much ass they died.
And they were like, we need an emergency. We need a lock of American dad.
Dude, no one gave

Speaker 1 up

Speaker 1 about monkeypox. pop if four dudes played Russian roulette and died, so we all had to wear helmets.

Speaker 1 That's literally what it's like. It's so stupid.
Dude, monkey pops.

Speaker 1 Stop eating ass once you get a blister, you fucking pig.

Speaker 1 You fucking greedy. Type thing.
Type.

Speaker 1 Blisters. Please.

Speaker 1 Is that what happens? Yeah. And they recommended washing your ass before they got it.
Someone ate it. Wash your ass.
Wash your ass before somebody eats it. They had it on freeway signs.

Speaker 1 Wash your courtesy. That's courtesy.
That's courtesy. That's courtesy.
That's courtesy. Remember that shit when they were on the freeway signs during the scandemic?

Speaker 1 When it was like, wash your hands, be safe.

Speaker 1 Like they were like telling us to wash our hands. Save a life six feet from a respiratory disease.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wash, dude, on the freeway signs, wash your hands. Yeah.
Ooh, Robert, I don't think they're ever going to get us like that again. No, no.
That was the vaccine. That's the ironic shit.

Speaker 1 It was like, that's the vaccine. That's kind kind of what it is.
It's never going to happen again.

Speaker 1 Because they already hit it.

Speaker 1 They hit it with us, and now they're next one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the next one. No hospitalization, dog.
No. Next one.
Yeah. Yeah.
But did you see the recent statistics on respirators? No. 90%

Speaker 1 of COVID patients who went on respirators died from it. We have a family friend that died.
And then they didn't let you go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 They didn't tell you where they were going to bury these motherfuckers and you couldn't have a funeral. Dude.
Dude. And people went along with that shit.

Speaker 1 They were like, okay, no funerals.

Speaker 1 And what's crazy is some people will still go along with it. And they remember when they scared the fuck out of everybody and they put it out on CNN.
The hospitals are running out of body bags.

Speaker 1 They had a ticker. They were running out of body bags.
They had a ticker because fucking tickers good for ratings.

Speaker 1 So you had a ticker of people dying who were dying of, if you went to the hospital, you had COVID, but you were in a car accident, they counted it as a death from COVID because they got more money from the government.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 1 Did you read a fucking Rolling Stone article during the height of it all where they said that people were waiting in line to go into the emergency room for gunshot wounds because so many people were overdosing from ivermectin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, rolling

Speaker 1 stone. Not only did they do that, they use a stock photograph of people waiting in line at a hospital, but these fucking morons did a photograph of people with coats on because it was a winter.

Speaker 1 They're waiting for a flu shot.

Speaker 1 So we knew it was fake. So it was fake.
But no one was going to the hospital for ivermectin overdose.

Speaker 1 Even if you get the shit that they give to horses, horses, it's still ivermectin. Like, if you get penicillin, penicillin is a veterinary medicine, too.
It doesn't mean you get penicillin.

Speaker 1 You're taking horse medicine. It's a medicine.
It's the same medicine. No one's dying from a damn thing.
They lie.

Speaker 1 Look at the P. Diddy, the whole thing is exposing the music industry, right?

Speaker 1 And what's the height of the music industry? Rolling stone? I mean, like, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 They used to be the reality. That shit.
They saw corruption. But they had a great magazine, and they got hijacked by a bunch of young morons.
Well, that's what happened to Vice.

Speaker 1 I had Shane Smith on from Vice. The same thing.
He was amazing. It's the same thing.
He lost everything, dude. Everything.
Because Vice went bankrupt. He used to be my neighbor.

Speaker 1 I used to see him every day. He was bankrupt over a sexual harassment.
No, nay, sir. The fucking ratings crashed to the floor.
They went woke, went broke. It's the best example ever.

Speaker 1 Because they have young kids they hire as interns, and they're all coming straight out of college. They think this is the world.
They gave it to the wheel. They have been indoctrinated into a cult.

Speaker 1 It is a real

Speaker 1 cult is that way. You know the New York Times, the reason they make money is off their crossword puzzle.

Speaker 1 And you know that the Washington Post has lost half their readership in the past four years and they lost $70 million last year. I wonder why.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they hired this new guy and he was like, you're right. You guys are all right in this stuff.
Nobody's reading your shit. So

Speaker 1 we're not going to exist. Just double down on the crossword.
Well, people are so mad that they refuse to endorse Kamala Harris for president. Oh, yeah.
Well, that was the LA Times.

Speaker 1 No, it was the Washington Post. And the LA Times.
Okay, but the Washington Post. Why are they turning their back? Why are they pushing their back?

Speaker 1 It's just one side or the other. What are they doing? She's going to lose.
Well, magazines, newspapers have always endorsed a candidate traditionally.

Speaker 1 They might not be so sure they want her to win anymore.

Speaker 1 I mean, who knows what they know? Who knows what all these people behind the scenes, like, what there's a 5D chess going on. You know, it might be as simple as they didn't think she could win.

Speaker 1 Let's try to get her to win. And if she doesn't win, we'll be fine because in four years we got this.
And we're going to do that. We've already set this in place.

Speaker 1 We already have all these people moving into swing states. We're going to give them amnesty.

Speaker 1 There's all

Speaker 1 the files in the last four years. Is that 20 million? Millions.
20 million? Millions. Millions of undocumented people, which is even crazy.
And they're giving them fucking flight.

Speaker 1 You know, you could, I've seen it personally. I've been on flights.
I did a seminar in Tucson.

Speaker 1 And while I was in Tucson, the Board of Patrol agents that trained Jiu-Jitsu, they were telling me, yo, they're giving them fucking flights.

Speaker 1 They're giving them fucking debit cards with $1,000 on them. They're giving them an iPhone.
I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 And then I go on the flight. I go on my flight.
And I got immigrants in front of me, like this woman, and she seemed very innocent and

Speaker 1 legit. She didn't need to be vetted.
She's just, she'd never been on a plane before in her life. And on her backpack,

Speaker 1 on her backpack,

Speaker 1 part of the idiots, so they can come to you. Here we go.
Do you know that? Part of that is a secret way to go.

Speaker 1 Shut your mouth. Oh, they really want to track that.
That's not what it is, Brian. You don't even know what the app is.
The app was for shipping.

Speaker 1 It was originally made for people to come over to this country. Oh, look at him.
Shut up.

Speaker 1 He's not going to strike with him. He doesn't want to strike with him.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 damn, he's got his back. Whitaker has to go the first round.
It's going to be tough. The first round's a typhoon.

Speaker 1 But if Hamzat can't get Whitaker here, he's dumping a lot of energy. He's fucked.
And this is

Speaker 1 five rounds. You got to take that back.
If you're a Whitaker right here, you got to go balls. I'll tell you what.
He comes out very comfy here.

Speaker 1 If you're a Whitaker fan, you you just want this to go past the first round. He's such a good grappler, man.
I'm telling you, his grappling is extraordinary.

Speaker 1 When you see him with that Olympic gold medalist, you're like, I didn't see him with an Olympic gold medal. Oh, dude, the scrambles.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's already on his back, and it's winning the scrambles. Win Olympic gold medalist.
Bro, he's nasty. Hand me that coffee bottle.
Did you see what he did to Rockhold?

Speaker 1 Did you see that grappling match? No, I didn't. I didn't see it.
It was manhandling. He manhandling.
It was manhandling. That's insane.
Rockhold's high level. Beasts.
And he's physically a beast.

Speaker 1 He's a strong motherfucker.

Speaker 1 For Hamza to do that to him. Now, I don't know what kind of shape Rockhold was in.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he had been rolling.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Can we do picture and picture over here? Is that

Speaker 1 damn? You guys got a billion dollars in your ship. I know we're looking back and forth.
It's ridiculous. Maybe next time we'll get a monitor above that monitor.
Maybe that's what we'll do.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's the move. It's too expensive.
Well, we used to have it where we're looking that way, but we wanted to be able to show things on the screen sometimes.

Speaker 1 Man, Whitaker's been through everything, though. He's such a veteran.
I can get you a good deal on a fucking big screen. You're the best, bro.
$400.

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 You're the best. Hey, whatever.
You know, you don't want to fill that out. Hamza's still on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, 100%, right? Yep. Well,

Speaker 1 Bo Nickel and Hamzat would be a crazy solution.

Speaker 1 That's the future. Three minutes left.
And he's got both hooks in. Oh, and he's got a body triangle in it in one second.
Almost. Almost.
Oh, he's out. Let's go.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 Just like Khabib.

Speaker 1 Just when you escape Khabib, he doesn't give up and reset. He just takes you down from that position.

Speaker 1 And then you just right there from that position. You lose that little victory that you had.
And then that frustrates you. It's also tiring.
Because a lot of people would reset and stand up.

Speaker 1 Okay, he escaped. He didn't let him.

Speaker 1 It was like he took him down right there. Right away.

Speaker 1 He didn't explode out of there quick enough.

Speaker 1 But Whitaker expects this, I bet. He's going to weather this storm.
The first round's tough. You never know, right?

Speaker 1 No, you do, though, because Hom's at this, what he does, the first round is a motherfucker. He's conserving his energy, though.
Yeah, he's not really burning off too much, man. He's riding him here.

Speaker 1 Just a scramble.

Speaker 1 And he's winning the round down. Oh, that's

Speaker 1 winning the round down. 100%.
I get a little excited. Go inside.

Speaker 1 If he gets under the chin, it's a real problem because he's got the grip of death. Under the chin? Yes, but he was on fucking front of the face there.
Oh, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 No, he's still mounted. Oh, half guard.
Did he's all over him? He's just like, no matter how he escapes.

Speaker 1 He counters the escapes. That's the key.
He's countering the escapes. It's a rodeo.
It's just beautiful flow. His flow is perfect.
He's just riding him everywhere he goes.

Speaker 1 He won't be able to do this for five rounds.

Speaker 1 This is that thousand-yard stare, you know, the guys have when a guy is just overwhelming them in the grappling that is...

Speaker 1 Almost scarier than getting beat up on the feet. Like when Ensign Barboso was getting mauled by Khabib, it's like, you know.
Oh, look at that.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's on the chest. He's tapping.
He tapped it. Already? Whoa, man.
That was weird. That was weird.
God. That was weird.
The first round started. It wasn't even around his neck.

Speaker 1 Hey, here's the thing. You probably give him the title shot, yeah? You finish with the first round? You give him the title shot.
You give him the title.

Speaker 1 This probably fucks up DDP strictly.

Speaker 1 I got a huge ass. It wasn't even on around his neck.
He wasn't even around his title. He was a real DEP.
He tapped quick. Dude.
Let's see what happened. It looked like it was around his chin.

Speaker 1 He got his chin and he was breaking his chin. That's what it looks like.
He was just. Yeah, because he just opened his mouth.
You don't want to have your... That fucking hurts.

Speaker 1 He just opened his mouth funny.

Speaker 1 We'll get a look at it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe it was around his neck.
Maybe it was around his face. I think it was around his jaw.

Speaker 1 I think he's breaking his jaw. Because usually when he's doing something with his jaw, he's like, open his mouth.

Speaker 1 And usually when you tap, I mean, you could tap somebody if you have a good enough squeeze around the jaw, but it takes a few seconds. But what if he broke it? It isn't like some instant shit.

Speaker 1 Right, but what if it snaps? This happens so fast that

Speaker 1 hurts. Look at the shot.

Speaker 1 Whoosh.

Speaker 1 From downtown, too.

Speaker 1 He shot so far out. Once he gets a hold of you, it's so dangerous.
He just needs to get his paws. Here we go.
Here we go. Right here.
Right.

Speaker 1 See, it's around the mouth. That's around the tap.
That's around the jaw. That was

Speaker 1 around the jaw. He's about to see it again.

Speaker 1 Usually that takes time.

Speaker 1 You know what? It was a neck crank.

Speaker 1 You know what? It was like a neck crank. I think that too, but I think he might have broke his jaw.
Yeah, as fast as he tapped, too. What? What was it? Dude, why did he throw his mouthpiece away?

Speaker 1 Because he wants a fan to have it. Fuck.
Wow. Now he's got to get a new one and then mold it.
Who are those two guys? Did they win a contest? A zebra contest? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You guys get to beat Craigslist. Bro, he gets a title shot, I think.
You have to. If you beat Whitaker, the number three contender in the world, not just that, but dominating.
He didn't get touched.

Speaker 1 He didn't get touched. He ran through him and he strangled him in the first round.

Speaker 1 He might be the guy, dude. He might be that guy.
And this is the best time to be a fan. When a guy's coming up, there's nothing better.
And here, think about this: 85, right?

Speaker 1 So this guy was killing himself to get to 70. At 85, he's the fucking man.
Oh, my God. Kind of crazy.
Now, here's the question. Can he wrestle DDP or Bo Nichols?

Speaker 1 DDP is not as good a wrestler. Well, his stand-up is more advanced than Bo's.
Way more, yes. Yeah, his stand-up is very dangerous.
Yeah, he's Hamzat's? Yes. Hamzat's very good on the feet.

Speaker 1 Very good on the feet. Not that Bo's bad on the feet, but Bo needs more seasoning.

Speaker 1 You know, he hasn't had a real war yet. Hamzat's been through the Gilbert Burns fight.
This is crazy, though. That was super, super impressive.
I've never seen it tap that fast.

Speaker 1 He must have have gotten in just a little bit. You know how fucking cool.
Robert Whitaker is? Yeah, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 It was a strange tap. He might have hurt his neck in the middle of the scramble or something.
It might have hurt his neck when the choke went on him. Jesus.

Speaker 1 You know, he might have felt something pop in his jaw. That was worst case scenario for Strickland.

Speaker 1 He's holding his jaw right now.

Speaker 1 He's holding his mouth weird. Yeah, I think he might have broke his jaw.
Good for Hams. Going through all that shit.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Look, dude, that guy's a scary-ass motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Scary. That grappling is next level.
I mean, he's given cold medalist fits. What are we talking about? Yeah, he's a beast.
I fucking kill him out.

Speaker 1 He's kind of chilled out, though. Let's see.

Speaker 1 You just submitted Bob Oak Whitaker in the first round. That was an amazing performance.
Yeah, my girlfriend of Baton.

Speaker 1 That guy is thanks, bro.

Speaker 1 He's basically saying no one wants to fight with me.

Speaker 1 I want to know. This is 85? Where was Strickland?

Speaker 1 Where's

Speaker 1 Israel? 85.

Speaker 1 I didn't see him.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? List. Oh, was he at the top? No,

Speaker 1 that was Winstreaks.

Speaker 1 Okay, Winstreaks. I was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's on the jaw. He's definitely not across the bottom.
He hasn't fought Strickland yet.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 He might have just fucked the jaws.

Speaker 1 I think he has mouth open, and he just

Speaker 1 was intensely uncomfortable. I mean, you think about the beating he was taking before that, how exhausted he must have been by then.
He might have had his mouth open.

Speaker 1 I killed him out. Give me a microphone.

Speaker 1 No, DC's like, nah, man.

Speaker 1 Abu Dhabi, thank you. Thank you, Shanks.
I help you and all.

Speaker 1 I live here now.

Speaker 1 He lives in Abu Dhabi now. Tammy's too is moving around.
Yeah, he had to.

Speaker 1 Is that because of his relationship with that

Speaker 1 dude? Cheshnya dictator? Yeah. We don't know.
That's Kadyrov.

Speaker 1 The other problem you have with him becoming champ. There's some crazy stories about that guy online.
Big stories.

Speaker 1 There was a guy who used to fight for the UFC who worked for him and wound up getting killed. Oh, wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he became like number two in the country.

Speaker 1 If Hamza becomes your champ, the issue, if there is an issue we don't know about where he can't fight in the states, it seems there's something going on there. For him to fight for the title,

Speaker 1 it makes things complicated if he can't do it in Vegas. Well, the problem is if you want to get six seats for your homies,

Speaker 1 your homies are wanted for war crimes.

Speaker 1 Well, Kadyrov, Kadyrov, that's the guy. I mean, he literally.
Do you know that he had Kadyrov had a, they gave him an award for being the most sanctioned leader in the world?

Speaker 1 Doesn't he like throw gay people off roofs and shit? There's a lot of things going on. Yeah.
In fact, they were. How tall are the roofs, though? I mean, we're talking about single story.

Speaker 1 Just teach them a lesson. I know of, I know, they were men who started seeing it in Chechnya.

Speaker 1 What if they're just throwing them into pools? And it's like they're exactly.

Speaker 1 It's like a party. Yeah, it's a joke.
Everyone's having fun. They're just on the edge of the straight guys, too, which you don't hear about.

Speaker 1 Straight guys aren't complaining about it.

Speaker 1 They get bored. They're in the mountains.
Everybody goes off the roof. It's entertainment for people.
It's not good if you're a gentler spirit in Chechnya. It's not like that.
Is that Steve Harvey?

Speaker 1 In the house?

Speaker 1 What? By the way, way, hilarious.

Speaker 1 Mustache just fucking strapped. Sergio Ramos, how dare you? Sorry.
Volkanovsky. Killer.
Love him.

Speaker 1 I like that he's taking all this time off. Me too.

Speaker 1 Rest that brain, sir. Rest that brain, sir.
One of the greats. Yeah, and get a full fucking camp.
Yep. You know? Yeah, don't take any short-notice fights.

Speaker 1 I don't know who he's going to fight. Do you know who they have Volkanovsky slated to fight? I think it might just be straight for the title.
If Max wins, if Max wins, 100% it's Volkanovsky.

Speaker 1 Volkanovsky, unless there's a rematch. Wouldn't you think? If Max wins tonight? Or you go Euro Lopez Volkanovsky?

Speaker 1 Dio Lopez-Volkanovsky? Don't you think Lopez has to win one more? That's what I'm saying against Volkanovsky. Oh, Lopez.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Lopez versus Volkanovsky.
It's a dangerous fight.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got the wine. Oh, you got the wine? Oh,

Speaker 1 shit. Who stole it? I don't know.
Get us some glasses, sir.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying, though, Joe, for Lopez, he needs one more, I think, before he gets to the big show. So you give him Volkanovsky.
You beat him? Yeah. Now we're cooking with Plato.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I think so. But if I was Volkanovsky, I'd say, nah, title fight.

Speaker 1 UFC's saying, no, sir. Yeah, but he's 36 years old.
Maybe 37 by now. Yeah.
He earned the title fight. He was one of the greatest featherweights, if not the greatest of all.

Speaker 1 And he's took short-notice fights for that. Yeah, the big one, the Makachev fight.
Never should have taken that.

Speaker 1 And that first one, I thought...

Speaker 1 It was a good fight. It was a good fight.
I think we were biased because he was the smaller guy. No, but the first fight was a good fight.
It was a really good fight. I'm saying he dropped him.

Speaker 1 I walked away from it.

Speaker 1 I thought he won. I thought he won.
But then, were we biased? Because it's like that David Goliath. You know what I'm saying? Possibly.
It was a very close fight. Let's say that.

Speaker 1 But then the rematch, when he gets KO'd like that on 10 days' notice, you can't do that, man. No.
You can't take that. I mean, I love the fact that he tried, but you can't do that.

Speaker 1 Well, see what he was ranked. What did they have? One, number one, pound for pound.
He loses that, and then loses the next one.

Speaker 1 He had been drinking and, you know, partying, living the life, eating burgers and shit. And then all of a sudden they're like, hey, you got 10 days to lose 40 pounds.
Against Makachev.

Speaker 1 Wine, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, calm down now.

Speaker 1 Settle down. Come down for us.
Well, I ordered it. We couldn't find it.
Somebody stole our wine. Jeff had to go hunt them down.

Speaker 1 This is the best wine. Dude, what do you think about this, Brian? What? You're the wizard.
What? Topirio, Max Holloway.

Speaker 1 I got Max.

Speaker 1 How do you have him winning? Well, I think that Topirio wins when he gets you against the fence. He's amazing.
He's great. I just think that Max is not going going to get against the fence.

Speaker 1 And I think that Max has never been put, he's been put down once. And I think he's a bigger guy.
And I think he's just as good a boxer. I really do.
Interesting. And that's a big deal.

Speaker 1 Because very few people are as good as Topurio. Now, I might be wrong.

Speaker 1 I also think the narrative on Topuria being like this crazy knockout artist, like an Alex Pira, his background is grappling. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong.
The motherfucking crack.

Speaker 1 But when it comes to stand-up, I would edge Max Holloway. Interesting.
As far as like pure striker, right, but you saw what he did to Josh Emmett, right?

Speaker 1 He just took away all Josh Emmett's weapons and started beating his ass. Max Holloway, now I love Josh Emmett, but Max Holloway, different animal.
Different animal. But

Speaker 1 the thing about Josh Emmett, he comes with that nuclear option, dude. He stays,

Speaker 1 bro. What he did to Bryce was crazy.
He's also shorter, though. Yeah.
Max is a lot taller.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's as wide as he is tall. Josh Emmett's a fucking tank, man.
That's true. He might be the scariest one-punch guy in the sport.
That was bad. Oh,

Speaker 1 he was twitching and shit, out out cold. And they were trying to stand him up.
I'm like, do not stand him up. Leave that man.

Speaker 1 Get some medics in there. That was a bad one.
When you see the guys twitching, just let him chill. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Don't chill. Now, Dana said they're going to go to Barcelona or Spain.
He's not drinking, you son of a drink.

Speaker 1 I'll just tell you.

Speaker 1 No, I'm good. Hey, you know what?

Speaker 1 He's not drinking, you fucking.

Speaker 1 It could be piss, and I wouldn't know, Brian.

Speaker 1 I don't know who you are. You know, Edibraj.
Edibra. Edie Brazh.
Watch it. It'll breathe.
It'll breathe. You know the one.

Speaker 1 Did you guys ever, when you were talking about, when you were talking with Trump and RFK Jr., did the fluoride in the water ever come up? It's come up with RFK.

Speaker 1 It's come up with a bunch of people, Callie and Casey Means. What do we got to do to get the fluoride out of the fucking water?

Speaker 1 I know certain counties in the United States, they've like petitioned and they, there's something you could do. I think if everybody knew what exactly to do to get fluoride out of the fucking water.

Speaker 1 That's one of RFK's things he wants to do. What is going on? How is fluoride still in the water and everybody's cooling?

Speaker 1 Explain to listeners why is fluoride so bad. And when I say listeners, me

Speaker 1 at Joe? It's a neurotoxin. It's dangerous.
They say it helps your teeth. It's stupid.
If I don't know what to do with your teeth.

Speaker 1 What helps your teeth is don't eat sugar, brush your teeth. That's what helps your teeth.

Speaker 1 No. There's very little evidence, and I bet that evidence is horseshit.
But here's the thing:

Speaker 1 but it comes with the consequences of factual data that shows that high fluoride rates in in waters lead to lower IQs in kids. That's proven science.
Really? Yes, it's dangerous stuff. It's not

Speaker 1 okay. There's a reason why they're putting fluoride.

Speaker 1 They're opening up sacks of fluoride and putting it in the water.

Speaker 1 And they're saying it's to keep our teeth. No, so what I heard is that fluoride was discovered because in Colorado there were pockets of kids and people that didn't have cavities.

Speaker 1 And they found that it was the fluoride in the water. Yeah, we also found toothbrushes.
Listen, you don't need to use fucking fluoride. That's some retard shit.

Speaker 1 If fluoride was good for your teeth, bottled water would say now with fluoride. How come it doesn't say that? How come we didn't say that? I need to know they experimented.

Speaker 1 They experimented during the Nazis. The Nazis experimented with fluoride.
There was straight Illuminati. So all the dentists are wrong and you guys are right? Yes, they're all wrong.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 COVID is real. COVID is real.
You fucking know. COVID is real.
All the doctors said it was real.

Speaker 1 But are you a two-day? COVID is real.

Speaker 1 That's what they say. COVID vaccine's legit.
COVID vaccine's legit? I don't know. Everyone, they all.
You know. Oh, my God.
I don't know, Pete, but you're pissing me off.

Speaker 1 Well, the vaccine probably did you take the vaccine?

Speaker 1 No. Why not? But I just

Speaker 1 shut the fuck up. Because I got it.
Just shut the fuck up, bro. All the doctors said it.
Just take the vaccine. You guys are vaccinologists and you're tooth experts.
Oh, my God. Brian, Brian, Jesus.

Speaker 1 Listen, I've talked to many, many people that have said the dangers of fluoride are real. And that in the levels that they're in the water, they're probably not going to make you stupider.

Speaker 1 But there's no reason for it to be there in the first first place, and it is a toxin. Really? But they put it in toothpaste.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't be in toothpaste either. It's all erroneous information.
It's the same thing that led people to say that margarine is better for you than butter.

Speaker 1 It's bullshit, biased studies that are conducted by people who have a vested interest financially in pushing.

Speaker 1 How many people are selling fluoride to put it in the water? It's not free. They have to get it somewhere.
Someone's in a fluoride business. They've got deals.

Speaker 1 These people have been saying for their entire careers you should have fluoride.

Speaker 1 You have to correct so much to get fluoride out of the water and to get people to stop using fluoride even for toothpaste. I use Tom's of Maine.
It's natural toothpaste. It doesn't have anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's so many

Speaker 1 brands of toothpaste that say fluoride-free.

Speaker 1 Why would they say fluoride-free? Well, because somebody... Brian, you don't know what you're talking about.
You really don't.

Speaker 1 But that's the problem is

Speaker 1 you're going to argue with him, but you really don't know about it. I'm not asking your questions.
You guys are saying the thing is that you're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 No, no, you're saying all these people are asking. You're still on fluoride.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 You're appealing to authority, right? But the reality is there's actual data.

Speaker 1 There's scientific data that these people have conveniently ignored that shows that fluoride that they've been recommending for decades is not good for you.

Speaker 1 That's why there's toothpaste that says fluoride-free. Otherwise, that would kill their cups.
You're the dumbest toothpaste ever. Yeah, that would kill their cup.

Speaker 1 So you're saying that the dentist tells you to use fluoride toothpaste because

Speaker 1 they're retarded. My dentist has to be able to do that.
I don't know what my daughter's not telling me to do. No, no, no, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if I can do this.

Speaker 1 My dentist does not tell me to use fluoride toothpaste. He doesn't? No.
No, my dentist knows about fluoride and water, too, and he doesn't think it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Doctors that recommend the COVID vaccine, are they retarded or are they smart? Okay, listen. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 We're traveling down too many different side roads. If you're an older person.
We're traveling down too many different side roads.

Speaker 1 But if you want to see it, Jamie, pull up an article that shows that high fluoride rates in water leads to lower IQs in kids. And it just seems perfect for the controllers.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's a controller thing. I think it's a money thing.
I think they've been selling it as, because I think they used to think that it did help you with tooth decay. Right.
And

Speaker 1 I think maybe someone scammed it and they started selling it to people to put in the water. We all need it.
And then you have a business. You have, it's called Big Fluoride.

Speaker 1 And Big Fluoride is providing all the fucking fluoride that's in your water. And it's not necessary.
And first of all, not to drink it and eat it and cook with it. That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 And if you needed fluoride just for toothpaste, you use fluoride toothpaste and you spit that shit out and rinse your mouth because it's fucking dangerous.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 1 NTP reports suggested IQ reductions in the range of two to five points in children with higher fluoride exposures. Jesus.
Yeah. The more you know.
This should be interpreted cautiously.

Speaker 1 It's fucking garbage. There's no reason for it to be there.
Don't get me started on root canals. Oh, that's a nice thing.

Speaker 1 That's a whole nother case.

Speaker 1 Is it real that the Nazis put it in the water, too? Is that real? I'm 100%.

Speaker 1 No, not 100%. 98% sure.

Speaker 1 Jamie, find out fluoride.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it discovered in the UK? If the Nazis put it in the water, you know what it's for. They did a

Speaker 1 lot of experiments to medicate people.

Speaker 1 They were giving people crystal meth. They had a type of crystal meth you would buy in the store.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and made productivity. Like everybody was kicking ass.

Speaker 1 Also, we use that. That's why they had BMW.

Speaker 1 Why do you think they had Audi? Why do you think they had Porsche?

Speaker 1 Why do they have these incredible engines behind Porsche? Because these fucking engineers were jacked up on meth, going, let's fucking put these gears together and make it fast as fuck.

Speaker 1 The Nuremberg and all that. That's Hitler's.
That's all Hitler's. Yeah, but I think fluoride was discovered in Colorado.
Fluoride is great.

Speaker 1 No, listen, fluoride's been around for a long time, Brian, but the idea of pouring it into your fucking water is relatively new and human.

Speaker 1 And then people think, oh, I don't drink tap water, so I'm free of fluoride. No.
What about your ice? You put ice in your drinks? What about the beverages?

Speaker 1 You think these companies that make beverages are not solid? There's no evidence of the Nazi Party. Fluoride was first used by the Nazis to keep prisoners docile and submissive.
Fun fact.

Speaker 1 Our verdict, there's no evidence of the Nazi Party. Now, there's got to be someone that thinks that fluoride was used by the Nazis.
That's Google, though.

Speaker 2 I think they said that said that. It just says it's a claim.
I don't even know where someone's saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the problem with that is you're connecting fluoride, which is ubiquitously used in drinking water. I love that.
Political facts. Let's find.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jesse Ventura says the Nazis pioneered the use of fluoride. That's all I need to see.
We're forever incorporating Nazi things in our lives. Fluoride is in the water.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is Tampa Bay Times.

Speaker 1 Communist conspiracy, genuine threat.

Speaker 1 Hold on, go back to that one. Go

Speaker 1 state of the planet. Fluoride and water, communist conspiracy, genuine threat.
Fluoride, certainly nothing to do with your teeth. Fluoride and water was used by the Nazis on the Jews.
I mean,

Speaker 1 these are the things that are. I mean, what? What does it mean?

Speaker 1 Doesn't really make sense. I don't even know what that is.
Does that make sense? It was Google. This is Google.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But

Speaker 1 Google just finds websites that could be full of shit. All I did was type in three words and finding articles over those three words exactly.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Google is not going to tell you what's true or what's not true. They're going to show you articles.

Speaker 1 But the bottom line is, if fluoride is being used everywhere, you'd probably have the same sort of deal as like try finding vaccine side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine and how dangerous they are.

Speaker 1 Go Google. You'll find a bunch of things about how it's a myth and it's a bullshit and a small amount.
More people get myocarditis from COVID. You'll find a bunch of misinformation.

Speaker 1 Here's my question. Disproven stuff because of money.
Okay, for both of you. Here's my question.

Speaker 1 How many COVID-19 vaccines do they give out? Like Like $5 billion or something? Amazing?

Speaker 1 Right. So out of 5 billion,

Speaker 1 most of those people are fine, right? No. No? No.
We don't know. No.
There's a lot. 5 billion? In my family alone,

Speaker 1 we have some damage. My uncle died of a heart attack.
That's anecdotal we're doing. My aunt got myocardium.

Speaker 1 Who's telling you

Speaker 1 who's giving you data? I can't believe you're defending the fucking vaccine.

Speaker 1 But I'm not a telepath. I'm not fucking

Speaker 1 aware of that. I'm blown away in a Hollywood colour.
I'm blown away. I'm blown away.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking blown away. Isn't it from the city? Well, I'm not surprised, though.
But I'm not surprised. Wait, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. All I'm asking is.

Speaker 1 He's been Tex and his friend at Universal. They're working on a deal.

Speaker 1 All I'm asking you is

Speaker 1 that 5 billion vaccines.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty big control group. And so is Fluoride.
What about Heart Treasure? Okay, Brian. What about Heart Transformers? Hold on.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Hang on to the roof.
Hold on, Brian. Do you know that all-cause mortality is up 40% in some age groups? That doesn't matter.
I don't know that, and I don't know that.

Speaker 1 That's not, but that's why you're arguing because you don't know that.

Speaker 1 You should know that. So, you're saying that's from the vaccine.
It could be from a lot of things. But one thing that happened during that time was they experimented on a new medicine.

Speaker 1 And that new medicine has been proven to both be ineffective and to be greatly exaggerated in what it could or couldn't do.

Speaker 1 Meaning, the tests that they did didn't even show it could do what they were saying it did. So there was a lot of deception going on.

Speaker 1 Then there was a lot of coercion, and then there's an enormous amount of money that gets exchanged.

Speaker 1 Take that into account.

Speaker 1 Take that into account, and then take into account this 40% increase in all-cause mortality. All of that has to be done.
Take in

Speaker 1 the giant jump in miscarriages, the giant jump in infertility rates in both men and women, the giant jump in all sorts of autoimmune conditions that people got after they got vaccinated.

Speaker 1 The giant jump in strokes and heart. It could be this beautiful.
You're like a defense attorney.

Speaker 1 You're like a defense attorney for the soup. Or it could be the toxic supervision.
Sure, bro.

Speaker 1 But it automatically ticks in around 2020.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 On the streets, on the streets, you'd be dead.

Speaker 1 On the streets, you'd be dead. By the way,

Speaker 1 hold on, hold on. That would kill you.
There's also a lot more drinking. There's also shut down more shit.
What do you mean? There's a lot more now. People are dying now.

Speaker 1 Brian, you would be dead on the streets.

Speaker 1 We're not out of exercise. But we need to

Speaker 1 now be. Not during the pandemic.
Not now.

Speaker 1 A lot of them aren't even obese. Worldwide, you're saying.
A lot of them are not even obese. You saw those soccer players dropping dead.

Speaker 1 Vaccinated soccer players having heart attacks. Super normal.
Fittest people on earth just having fucking strokes in the middle of a field. But for the most part.

Speaker 1 But the vast majority don't. Yes.
A lot of people got injured, Brian. A lot of people.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Let's say it's only 1%.

Speaker 1 Let's say it's only 1%.

Speaker 1 Is it 1%?

Speaker 1 No, let's say it's 1%.

Speaker 1 Hey, B, here's what injury. We don't know.

Speaker 1 They're not giving us the complete results. We don't know how high it is.
Well, that's a good point. But we know it's up 40%.
Hold on. You don't know, right? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You guys are throwing a lot of these statistics around. No, the one thing we do know is that I'm going to be a job

Speaker 1 if he was my defense attorney. I'd be like, I'm going to jail.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, seriously. If I was going to jail and I was guilty, I would hire someone to do it.

Speaker 1 You think the COVID vaccine? Because he can always hire a kid. So you think the COVID vaccine was straight up killing people in very dangerous areas.
I think it was a scam. I think it was a scam.

Speaker 1 It was ineffective. And at the worst, the problem is it didn't stay local.
Meaning when they injected into the muscle, they weren't aspirating for the most part.

Speaker 1 They didn't even aspirate on fucking Biden on television. They just plunged that thing in.

Speaker 1 If you talk to doctors, they say when you do stuff like that and you inject someone with a vaccine, you are supposed to aspirate to make sure that you're not in a blood vessel.

Speaker 1 So you pull back to see if you find blood. And if you do, you have to reinsert somewhere else.
So you're not going to shoot it right into a blood vessel.

Speaker 1 When it goes into a blood vessel, your body recognizes it as like an intruder and your immune system reacts.

Speaker 1 Now it gets to your heart, and if it gets to your heart, it creates myocarditis because your heart doesn't heal, which is why you don't get heart cancer. So here's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 Your heart heals. Your heart just scars up.
Listen, but Eddie, I know a lot of people that got the vaccine, like a lot, because I live in California.

Speaker 1 So I know the vast majority. And the vast majority of people that I know, just anecdotally, but if you just look at a cross-section, seem to be walking around fine.
Did they get COVID? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Probably. I bet they did.
Because I know somebody who got the booster and everything. She's had COVID five times.
See, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 Not only that, there's a direct correlation between the amount of boosters you get and the frequency in which you get COVID.

Speaker 1 That could be a healthy user bias thing where you have a bunch of unhealthy people that are getting jabbed up as much as possible.

Speaker 1 possible right and they were going to get covet anyway but you don't know it certainly doesn't work everybody i know knows multiple people that got fucked up from the vaccine you don't know anybody that got fucked up

Speaker 1 that doesn't mean anything it's just anecdotal

Speaker 1 i think people in hollywood keep their fucking mouth shut they don't get kicked out of the college or or you wouldn't know too right like you wouldn't know if you got covet i know from my i know from my covid also

Speaker 1 with your with your heart and things too so some you wouldn't know

Speaker 1 you don't think covet was just the flu no i think covid was different because it was about twice as bad

Speaker 1 It killed a lot of old people and heavy people. And

Speaker 1 the flu do that? No, it was worse than the flu.

Speaker 1 If you had a

Speaker 1 friend who's a doctor, said to me, he goes, I'd estimate it was about 50% worse than the regular bad flu. Yeah, it was just a duck.
They hijacked the flu. It was all bullshit.

Speaker 1 It was all bullshit.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 It definitely included the flu in along the rock. They hijacked it.

Speaker 1 The flu definitely included. That's how they do it.
They go and turn it all the time. They take the, and they go, oh, there's a new thing.
What are the symptoms?

Speaker 1 You have a runny nose, you have a fever. I'm like, isn't that the flu? Oh, no, but it's different.
Here it is, boys. First defense.
That's how they do it title.

Speaker 1 I think the bottom line is handled incorrectly. And so that's definitely not the bottom line.
It was fucking made and allowed. Handled incorrectly.
So I'm saying

Speaker 1 a lot of bottom line. It was actually funded by the NIH.
Crisis was handled incorrectly, right? Yeah. Oh, well, it wasn't just handled incorrectly.

Speaker 1 It was the greatest distribution of wealth that the fucking world has ever seen.

Speaker 1 It was on purpose. There was no incorrect shit.

Speaker 1 They knew exactly what would happen.

Speaker 1 Speaking of corrupt bullshit, did you see Elon Musk might buy CNN? That would be hilarious. Guess what, boys? I'm going to be on CNN.
When? Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 I'll ask him for a job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'll hook me up. Can I be a field?

Speaker 1 I'll do the J. That's Ilya's wife.
Damn. Damn.
I'll do the JRE Weekly Report. Dude, here we go.
We're talking about the actual news of the world. This is what I learned.
You gotta have Brian on there.

Speaker 1 No. No, come on.
Let me get him.

Speaker 1 Let me get this family. Brian is going to replace any cookies.
I ask questions. You got to ask him.

Speaker 1 It would be perfect.

Speaker 1 Come on, bro. Don't make me a CIA fan.
I'm just asking. You are definitely a CIA.
I'm asking questions. I know about Brian's daughter and white friends.
I can't even ask questions among my friends.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Let's watch this because this is heavy.
Is Max drawn? Was this too much of a cut for him? That's what I want to say. Well, he hasn't cut in a couple years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's up to him.

Speaker 1 It's a big win. But he has a really good job.
What did he reference to him? He's like, come, sit down. Let's go.
No, don't stand there. Fuck that.
That's it. Like the bull, the matador.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Because Ilya said he was going to do that in the beginning. He was going to point to the ground.
He's like, yo, bro. He goes, this is not the DMF, the dumbest motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Who said that? Max. There you go.

Speaker 1 Ilya is a confident dude, so he rubs people the wrong way, but you got to be pretty fucking arrogant to get to his level. Oh, yeah, man.
This is an interesting fight.

Speaker 1 This is a very Max is a real good technician. Yes, he is.
How about their shorts? Very good. Both custom shorts.
Nice. Max got the booster, too.
No, he didn't. All right.
Take it easy.

Speaker 1 Front kick to the body. High kick.
No, UFC, no UFC fighter got the booster.

Speaker 1 Were they not allowed? Did they have to? No, No, no, Brian Lionel. Lionheart did.
Lionheart did.

Speaker 1 He suffered blood clots from it.

Speaker 1 Anthony Smith talked about it. He thinks he lost a family member to it, too.
My mom got blood clots from it. Oh, low kick.
Max looks good. He's staying on the outside using the reach.

Speaker 1 The controversial thing about

Speaker 1 foodborne illness because people who are. I think they might have collided heads.
What? That's the controversial thing. What's the oldest? Oh, whoa, whoa.
Taporio caught him.

Speaker 1 I mean, Taporio's a very fucking good box. I didn't hear you, Brian.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 I said some people would call it a foodborne illness because if you were obese, COVID killed you, right? Yeah. That's not what they would call foodborne illness.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Foodborne illness is a little bit of a bad thing.
If you ate a lot of people, I know what I tell you about grappling. Oh, I know.
What I said.

Speaker 1 You're going to get some grappling here. Bro.
That's his bread and butter, bro. I must have forgot.
Very nice. He's been studying with Jomiah.

Speaker 1 He's from Georgia. He's from Georgia originally, right?

Speaker 1 He was born in Georgia, but grew up in Spain. Okay.
After that fucking fight, man. Yikes.
I can't believe Homzot did, though. He saw

Speaker 1 Whitaker dislocated his jaw. Oh, jeez.

Speaker 1 That's what it was. Yeah, they confirmed that he dislocated his jaw.
Oh, okay. That makes sense.
When he choke. Yes.
How do they put that back in?

Speaker 1 Or maybe it was already dislocated, and then when he put the choke in, he was like, that's what I think. He could have caught him.

Speaker 1 Dude, Chapura is such a good boxer. Shit.
He's so lethal. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That dude has no wasted movement. Those punches come so clean.
And everything's heavy, too. Everything's heavy.
Max is more of a volume guy. He throws his whole body in that, man.
Oh, nice low-kick.

Speaker 1 One mistake, it's a problem. Heavy low-kick.
Fuck. Can I change my...
Can I change my motion? No, you don't want to do that. Guys, how much is this? $100? $100? Yeah, let me just be doing that.

Speaker 1 No, don't do that. You can't do that.
Guys, you're coming down on me, man. You know what you should do? You should get on one of them apps that lets you bet during the fight.

Speaker 1 You know? Guys go up and go. You can bet from the second round on.
Oh, shit. No, no, get out of there.
Get out of there. That's going to be a good way to make money, man.

Speaker 1 Max, don't let him get yourself away. It's so weak.
Brian's a smart way to make money when you know for a fact someone's teed up. Yeah, guys do it all the time.

Speaker 1 And you get a three to one on the money. Dude, he's free money.
He's chopping his leg, dude. Free money.
Yeah, you're right. He's chopping his leg.
Brian's chopping his legs.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you'd be better on a companion with Don Lemon and Amsterdam Cougar? 100%.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you fit more in with them?

Speaker 1 Do you feel like an algorithm to have a lot of things they agree on? Guys, I'm just asking questions. Guys, I'm just asking questions about my friends in private.

Speaker 1 I'm just asking about the COVID vaccine. I just feel like you'd fit in with them.
There's a big control group. I'm just wondering.
You should get some boosters, Doug.

Speaker 1 Right now? Get some friends. I haven't even had the vaccine.
Get a goddamn booster. Bro, I went to see Beetlejuice.
You like this wine, right, Bob?

Speaker 1 I went to see Beetlejuice and in the middle of the fucking previous. Beetlejuice from Howard Stirn? No,

Speaker 1 the movie.

Speaker 1 Beetlejuice 2, the new one. It was great.
It was great. It was good? Yeah.
Was it broke?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. It was fun.
It was fun. It was really good.
But the point is, they have, what's that guy's name? John Legend?

Speaker 1 He does a fucking COVID commercial. Yeah.
He shows his band-aids playing piano. Nothing gay.
Yeah, there's nothing gay. He was at Diddy Party.

Speaker 1 If you're doing COVID vaccine commercials, you partied. 100%.

Speaker 1 Or you want that money. Or you just trust him.
Didn't they say that they paid Travis Kelty like $20 million?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was making $5 million. He just answered back.
Match is

Speaker 1 a good one.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Max.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, I told you.

Speaker 1 You guys sleep on Holloway, both you guys. You fucking don't know anything.
This guy, look at that. He's got a good reach, man.
His reach advantage is nice. He's Max Halloway.
He's blessed.

Speaker 1 He's got a little bit of blood coming out of his nose. It's all right.
It's all right. It's been here before.
Topira's nose is pretty red, too. Look at this.
That's a nice jazz. Oh, good hook.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everybody wants to sleep on Max. Unbelievable.
Put respect on his name. He's still Max Halloween.

Speaker 1 And by the way, by the way, he stands right in the middle of the, you're not getting him against the camp. Not just that, it's also the five-round thing.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Right, Max has been to these wars with Volkanovsky. Carl Max does fight fucking.
And Tiporia's

Speaker 1 left hook. He hurt him.

Speaker 1 He hurt him with that left hook. He hurt him with Taporia.
Where's that app? Where's that fucking app?

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Is Tiporia a black belt? Yes. Damn.
I want to see that

Speaker 1 drop. That's a good question.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, that's good.
I thought they were standing them up. Good round.
Holy fuck. Let's see.
So, don't you think they should start right back where they just ended?

Speaker 1 I get your argument. That's a good question.
That's a good question. That's 100%.
I don't like it. It's one fight.
It's not five fights. Max didn't stand up.

Speaker 1 But it's three rounds. So restart the round.
Five.

Speaker 1 It's a good question. Five rounds.
Fair.

Speaker 1 There it is. Jorge and Augustin Clement.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 1 Spanish shit. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Now let's see some of this highlights. I want to see that left hook.
So here's a shot. You took him down, right? There you go.
Yep. Boom.
Now that counts straight up as a takedown, yeah? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 A grazing shot there.

Speaker 1 There was one

Speaker 1 good left hook that dropped. That was a hard low catch.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Boom.
Good elbow. Oh, shit.
And then he gets clipped. Max will answer back.
Oh, he slipped.

Speaker 1 Oh, you just slip. It's not a knockdown.
Will they call it as a knockdown? No, no.

Speaker 1 It's a takedown. It's a takedown.
It's a takedown. It was a slippery.
Oh, he slipped. Well, that's better because I thought he got rocked.
Me, too. Yep.
But takedowns is a knockdown a little bit.

Speaker 1 You're not allowed IVs, right? Are you still the head of a round? It's something. He's still on his mouth.
He moves a lot. He certainly won the round.
Are you allowed to IVs in Saudi Arabia? No.

Speaker 1 Nowhere in the UFC.

Speaker 1 Nowhere.

Speaker 1 I think that's stupid. I think, well, you can mask steroids, unfortunately.
Oh, really? Yeah, you could flush it out of your system, and then you take

Speaker 1 a urine test, and it doesn't really matter. You heard all that news about Mokachev getting one? All that leaked shit.
Yeah, but that wasn't real. There's photos of him before that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was not what that was for. Dude, this is going to be...
Oh, this is going to be. They were claiming that they knew the lady who gave it to him.

Speaker 1 I heard from what I talked to the UFC guys, that was bullshit. They could be wrong.
I don't know. Fake news, though.
But what I heard from the inside was that it was bullshit.

Speaker 1 And he had that bruise on his arm from before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max is a damn good boxer. Like, if someone squeezes your fucking arm, you can get a bruise there, too.
It looks a lot like an injection. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude. So who knows? But I think they should be able to do it.
100%. It's healthier.
I don't think they should cut weight, but that's another story.

Speaker 1 You boys are just trying to change the UFC. I am

Speaker 1 trying to get rid of the cage.

Speaker 1 No cage, no gloves, and restart and behind it. Why do you have gloves on your hands, but you don't have anything on your elbows and your shoes? Exactly.
It's crazy. Because they got to grab it.

Speaker 1 Common sense. Hey, common sense.

Speaker 1 What do you need? No, just keep it the way it is. It's fucking great.
Oh, beautiful low-kick.

Speaker 1 Ilya's a heavy low-kick. Oh, wow.
Keep the fluoride in the water, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Left hook by Ilya. Keep the fluoride in the water and keep the UFC the way it is.

Speaker 1 Keep them boosters coming in.

Speaker 1 Are you for boosters?

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about them. I don't know.
You love boosters. No.
I just know that my parents are 85 and they love them. Just shut the fuck up.
Right hand. Right hand by Ilya.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Oh, another kill killer. Oh,

Speaker 1 he's walked into a jab. It's the difference is in the firepower.
When Ilya hits him, it's fucking

Speaker 1 dangerous. Every shot is like a thudding shot.
Although, over five rounds. Oh, yeah, man.
Listen, the thing about Max is he can keep this going. He conserves his energy.
Well, he's a champion.

Speaker 1 He knows how to really fight a war in five rounds and have enough gas to sprint at the end. He knows where he's at.
Oh,

Speaker 1 he got stung.

Speaker 1 He got stung.

Speaker 1 That left hook was hard. Ah, man, it's going to be tough on Max to make close to him.
Oh, he's a heavy little kitchen again. Topiria's getting his timing.

Speaker 1 It's going to be tough for him. And Max is not getting.

Speaker 1 Oh, he hit with a right hand. Also, Max isn't getting his respect, so he's sitting down on shit now.
Well, I think Max is a little hurt right now. I think that's far.

Speaker 1 They're getting serious. It's not affecting Topiria, though.
Topiria is down to exchange. He's still in there, man.
He's still in there. The thing is, it's like Max has been hurt for sure.

Speaker 1 So he's fighting a little bit hurt here. Oh, another one.
Damn, damn.

Speaker 1 Oh, Toporia is too good.

Speaker 1 No, Toporia is just. Damn, he's so good.
He felt this power went. All right, let's go.
He's such a good boxer. He's such a good boxer.
He's so crisp. Yes, but he's getting caught.

Speaker 1 He just got caught again. Toporia just got caught again.
Oh, man, this is still a fight. It's a fucking fight.

Speaker 1 And it's Max Holloway. He finds a way in

Speaker 1 40 to 40 to 27 headshots in favor of Max. Because he's touching him.
Yeah. But significant strikes.
The difference is the impact of the other shots. You can't really count.

Speaker 1 Like, you look at the momentum of a fight, and Max is, you know, he's grazing him. He's hitting him with shots.
But you can't dictate the guy winning based off volume if he's not.

Speaker 1 When Tippori is hitting him, he's hurting him.

Speaker 1 But Max is mixing it up well. I like how he's throwing these kicks in now.

Speaker 1 But this has been grueling. Two great fighters.
My God.

Speaker 1 This is the top of the heap, man. Fighting is at his best.
This is such a good division.

Speaker 1 I wonder if Max is going to feel less good at 45 here as he did at 55.

Speaker 1 You mean because he's more drained? Yeah, I wonder if it's having an impact. Especially at his age.

Speaker 1 32?

Speaker 1 In fight years, he's 77. I wonder if it's having an impact.
Look at this. Oh, nice one, too.
Dude, God, that hurts. Nice job.
Look at this.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 God,

Speaker 1 Ilya comes in, though. They're terrifying.

Speaker 1 One of those things clips you. It's La La Land.

Speaker 1 One minute to go. Here we go.

Speaker 1 That stomp to the thigh is good. Illiot just has to get Max going backwards.
Remember

Speaker 1 that. Benson Henderson would punch you in the thigh.
Remember that? Oh, yeah. He did all kinds of work.
He's the first calf kicker. God, was he?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Benson Henderson was the first guy who was kicking the shit out of people's calves. Were calf kicks normal in Muay Thai? No.
They weren't really, man. They're using them more now because of MMA.

Speaker 1 That's so interesting. You don't see the knee stomp as much anymore.
I mean, I guess John hasn't been active, but you don't see it as much. Look at that.
Well, Khalil. Oh, Christ.

Speaker 1 That's got a lot of money. Khalil Roundchae had the scariest against Modestas.
God, he's Max.

Speaker 1 He just did one. Max is taking punishment in his fucking leg, though.
He's not checking. Look at that left leg.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's beat up.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, right hand.
That was a good right hand. Crazed him.
Jesus Christ. I'd rather get the vaccine, guys.
Am I right?

Speaker 1 I think you already did. Eddie, man.
Eddie doesn't feel like it. I feel like Brian thinks you got it just to stay with your agency or something.

Speaker 1 I didn't get anything.

Speaker 1 I'm shocked you didn't get anything.

Speaker 1 I would guess and say, what do you think Brian Callan got? I would say he got all the boosters.

Speaker 1 You think I'm status quo? Totally.

Speaker 1 The thing is, he got COVID before there was a vaccine. I will listen.
I'm more apt to listen to a doctor, though, typically, right?

Speaker 1 Than Eddie Bravo. Yeah, than you guys.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Do you know how many hours I spent on YouTube, dog? You don't even know. You don't even know.

Speaker 1 You went to YouTube University. Basically, Ph.D.

Speaker 1 I went to Rocky. You do your

Speaker 1 university. You have talked to a lot of scientists, Joe.
I definitely have. A lot.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 Dr. Malone.
Yeah, I've talked to the guy who invented mRNA technology. But that is a nine pattern.
No, I listen to that.

Speaker 1 That guy, if you listen to that guy, the guy who invented it, you're like, oh, you're not a scientist. You're not a doctor.

Speaker 1 The guy who is, who invented it, but

Speaker 1 you're still coming at me with, oh, you don't know shit. He had a terrible event.
Dr. Malone.

Speaker 1 Dr. Malone had a terrible cardiac event after the vaccine.
And that's when he went back to the moment.

Speaker 1 But no, you keep reading. But you're not a doctor.
You keep reading that. Here we go.

Speaker 1 You're not a doctor.

Speaker 1 He had Malone on twice. You had him on.
I had him on one. Once.

Speaker 1 And the other guy, what's the other guy's name? Peter McCullough.

Speaker 1 He doesn't matter. No, he mad at the time.
So you're having a lot of people. Okay, here we go.
Eddie, you're not a doctor. Here we go, boys.
No, I'm with you. I'm with you.
No, you're not. I'm three.

Speaker 1 Here we go. I just like to ask questions.
On the streets, you'd be dead.

Speaker 1 You'd be dead on the streets.

Speaker 1 They call him Street Smart in jail.

Speaker 1 Whenever he gets put in the county, nice left. But you're not a doctor.
But you know, isn't it funny how we're all in an echo chamber in our own way? Like, Eddie's like, how has anybody believe it?

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of people, most people believe in the vaccine. I just

Speaker 1 know what I'm saying, though. I just steal that.
That's what I'm saying. Guys, guys, guys, shoot the fuck up.
Get on the streets. Let's watch the fight.

Speaker 1 Let's watch the fight. Let's watch the fight.
This is boring. Yeah, this is a great fight.
It is. Sorry, guys.
This fight's too good.

Speaker 1 The thing is, like, Max just doesn't have the pop at 45. I think that even he does at 50.
That's why I want him at 55. Volume, though, volume.

Speaker 1 But I don't know if they were going to give him a title shot. Well, I think these guys that drain themselves, like there's a point of diminishing return.
Look at this. Nice ride.

Speaker 1 He's still a warrior. Oh, he's a warrior.
That stomp that dies legit. All that shit that keeps you.
Brendan said people don't do it. And now he's doing it like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 And he's doing it well. It's the John Jones.
He's leaping in. Yep.
I think he's coming around this third round. Oh, Revolution

Speaker 1 Rock. Oh, shit.
Oh, my goodness. He's getting rocked.
Shit. The body of the body.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 you're throwing some heat.

Speaker 1 Max will not let you pin him against a cage. And I like how he gets him hurt and goes to the bottom.
He's Spanish. What is he against? Yeah, Georgian.
Georgian, but grew up in Spain.

Speaker 1 Georgian. Oh, he dropped him with a left hook.
That's it. Oh, Jesus.
Oh, he's out. That's it.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Motherfucker.

Speaker 1 He's a bad. Georgian from Russia.

Speaker 1 Are you talking to Russia? Yes. That's the first fucking.
So he's Russian.

Speaker 1 But he grew up in Spain. Bro, the first guy to put away Max Holloway.
Yo, he's out. He's on his back.

Speaker 1 That's how that ends.

Speaker 1 That's how good that guy is. Fuck.
That's how good that guy is. That's 45.
Tell you what, though. That's 45.
The fraud meter.

Speaker 1 They're not supposed to be that much power at 45. I think it happens at 55, though.
The fraud meter's gotten cold.

Speaker 1 Bro, that guy is so legit. I think it happens even at 55.
To do that to Max? Wait, you think what happens at 55? I think that same thing happens to Max. Well, I wonder if

Speaker 1 you're not going to be able to do it. I guess you think Tatori could go up to 55? Who's the champion?

Speaker 1 Monster now. He's going to have trouble with that.
Oh, he's going to give wrestling. Wrestling.
Have they fought McConnell?

Speaker 1 They fought Max if it. No, no, no.
Illy has been 45 his whole career, except the Jai Herbert fight, took that on short notice and knocked out Jai Herbert. Yes.
Illy is a beast, man.

Speaker 1 He's the fucking 100% real.

Speaker 1 He says he's going to win this one and then go to 55. He said that? Yeah.
But he's perfect for 45. He's perfect.
He's built for 45. These guys want to jump around.
See him against Islam.

Speaker 1 I mean, that would be amazing. That would be amazing.

Speaker 1 100% would be amazing. The guy's a beast.
That's a $100 million fight, right? He's so fucking good, man.

Speaker 1 He's kissing Steve Harvey. Unbelievable.
Steve Harvey's like, I'm here. I mean, he's doing comedy.
Steve Harvey had no idea who that guy was. He's a little comedy

Speaker 1 in front of Muslims. This is crazy.
Man, that's the first time for Max. So for two periods.
No shame. He was doing great, but fuck.

Speaker 1 What kind of off the top of your head? What kind of like hack jokes can you tell in front of a Muslim crowd? Good luck. In front of Steve Harvey.
Do you have anything else?

Speaker 1 You got something?

Speaker 1 Show you a hack and say, oh, what did the guy, what three guys walk into a bar, a Muslim, a Jew, and like something. You gotta have something.

Speaker 1 Schultze did stand up now. Said he cried.
What would you do?

Speaker 1 If you got thrown onto the stage,

Speaker 1 would you do your Scottish shit? I don't know. Do your Scottish shit.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 We missed something. They were talking to each other.

Speaker 1 It was just respecting. Topira, give him love.
Topira. Give him a legend.
Let's see it again. Let's see it again.
Here it is. Oh, hey, Kate.
This is the end. Moved his arm out of the way.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's it right there. Right.
Flush right there. That was it.
Oh, my. goodness that's it oh my goodness did he recover from that no no that's really impossible this was later yeah look at this

Speaker 1 that left hook was ferocious that was it that was it this is it look at this impact oh shit flush

Speaker 1 no but he does that to everybody his left hook is he does it to every star how many left hook KOs has he had well his right hand KOs too Jai Herbert was a right hand Volkanovsky was a right hand the left hook's so hot right now they're both

Speaker 1 they're both in I mean, he's and then it was just hammer fists right there. His boxing is cool.
I think his box is the best book. Holy shit.
That's shit. I think he literally is the best boxer.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And you would know.
Feel those hammer fists.

Speaker 1 Tabori is a beast. The left hook, you were showing me the.
I was talking about how I never had a left hook ever. I had zero power with my left hook, and I had this bag, this water,

Speaker 1 a heavy bag in front of my house that I would hit once a day. I go, I'm going to develop a left hook.
And then he showed me some technique. Done.
Opened you up a little bit, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, opened your whole world.

Speaker 1 Dude, he showed me some possibilities. He showed me the hip rotation on the left hook.
It's all in the hips, Bubba. It's all in the hips.
I don't teach a lot of people that.

Speaker 1 You gotta take my workshops.

Speaker 1 Stevens are all over here. Yeah, yeah.
I'm very, very, I'm very restrictive in who I teach that to. You've earned it.
You've earned it. And I give that to you.
It's my gift.

Speaker 1 But Joe's not going to learn it, and Brenda's not going to learn it. Who's to apply?

Speaker 1 Can you explain the details of the left hook in the Scottish accent?

Speaker 1 I work from my root chakra. My root chakra and my tent.

Speaker 1 Don't you know that?

Speaker 1 That's what I do. I take a small centipede step

Speaker 1 and you will drop.

Speaker 1 Ilya Taporia is my student. What do you do?

Speaker 1 Ilma in Scotland. Not fucking.
I took a small step, Ilya. Good boy, good.

Speaker 1 Great job. Max is going to take a real head in.

Speaker 1 You're my best skin, and I hug me, man.

Speaker 1 How do you feel?

Speaker 1 Just look at it. Fucking Ely at the party ass.
What do you do with Max?

Speaker 1 What do you do with Max, Joe? 55.

Speaker 1 Go back up to 55.

Speaker 1 I would say go back up to 55.

Speaker 1 Joe, you know what I do with him? You know what I do? Connor McGregor. Ooh.
Oh, he'll knock Connor out.

Speaker 1 At 55 or what? 55. Connor must have fight at 70.

Speaker 1 All right, 70. I bet Max would do it.
Cormier's pimp suit. Cormier's pimp suit is beautiful.
He looks like Steve Harvey. Fucking.

Speaker 1 Yes, he does. Is that pink, technically, or maroon?

Speaker 1 That's a burgundy. That's a burgundy like this one.
That's not pink. Hold on.
Let's hear who he calls out.

Speaker 1 You know how much confidence you have to have to wear a pink suit? He just called out Mike Tyson, guys. No, he said good things about Max.
He was talking about Mike Tyson at the CPI

Speaker 1 at the what? The Cellular Performance Institute down TI1 where you saw him. Oh, shit.
They're going to cellular performance.

Speaker 1 They're going to wine. You like that one.
I like it. I'm going to be a

Speaker 1 small portion of the XML I've been fighting for the new generation. So all the credits of Max, all the

Speaker 1 credits of Max. It is a new generation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, he's only two years younger than Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this is the new generation, man. Max has been fighting since he was 18, that's right.

Speaker 1 Younger than I've always felt like you were just in UFC, but.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. I don't like seeing that.
I don't like seeing that. This left hook is nasty.
Mrs. Mrs.
Schwang.

Speaker 1 Hands down, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, so much power.

Speaker 1 You think it's a tattoo on his back, Brian? What's that, buddy? The tattoo on his back. Think that contributes to his power? I do.
Is it low enough to be considered a tramp stamp?

Speaker 1 No, it goes all the way up to the back. All the way down, there was crack, but that is, that is, that represents the double helix.

Speaker 1 Right. And life.
You understand? Life. And all the chakras and shit, right? Well, it's when your chakras are aligned.
Oh, and he wants to get more drunk. You like this one?

Speaker 1 I'm not even good I don't fucking love this wine. That's hilarious.
Just don't give any tequila.

Speaker 1 It's like wine.

Speaker 1 The tomahawk is out. But most of the time,

Speaker 1 Jesus is a good wine. He made it.
Dude, this is food out of water. This is 11 years old.
This wine.

Speaker 1 11 years old. Here.

Speaker 1 The thing is, all wine gets made out of water. Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 Water

Speaker 1 when Jesus did that. What's that? Volkanovsky?

Speaker 1 Damn. He's like, yo.

Speaker 1 They're going to do it again.

Speaker 1 Volcanovsky is probably like, whoo.

Speaker 1 We wouldn't be. Let's do it again.
Slow down. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Can we party first and just hang out and be friends? Yeah, we'll do it in Spain.
That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 Man, they're both class acts, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, 100%.

Speaker 1 Man, so what do you do with Lopez?

Speaker 1 Diego Logovette? No. Can I just say one thing? One more fight.

Speaker 1 One more fight. Say one thing.
Daniel Cormier was a heavyweight, and he's a little taller than Toporia. That's why Daniel Cormier is one of the most impressive figures.

Speaker 1 Daniel Cormier probably could have fought 85 if he was one of those crazy dudes. Dude, if he shredded down, he could have been 55.
No, dude. He fought at heavyweight too.
No, if he lost all that shit,

Speaker 1 he's 5'9. Do you know how thick he is? No, he's 5'9.
You know how thick he is? He's 5'9, exactly.

Speaker 1 If he shredded up, no, dude. Like, fucking remember when he was.
Remember, who was that guy from Canada?

Speaker 1 He's built differently. He would die if he got to 55.
Do you remember that the guy from Canada is like 145, shredded?

Speaker 1 From the UFC? What did he do? Tell me what he did like like maybe 10 10 15 years ago hominick

Speaker 1 hominik no no no hominich wasn't true no not hominich not hominik another there was another guy wait wait in in that era wait a guy who sucked another guy you're saying he sucked a lot of weight he looked like an alien what was his name fuck i don't know wait wait wait what what weight big hands big hands

Speaker 1 canada sam stout yes Sam stout. Watch a Sam Stout fucking weigh-in dude.
He looks like fucking like an alien. So does Conor McGregor at 45.
Oh, at 45. Oh, he's deathly.
He looks horrible at 45.

Speaker 1 Did you see that hair?

Speaker 1 You know everybody.

Speaker 1 I guess. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 What is Max saying? What's Max saying?

Speaker 1 I'll see you again, my friend. You are a true friend.
I don't think I'll see you again.

Speaker 1 I'll see you again, my friend. He said.
Hey, did you hear about that girl in PFL was weight cutting and she's been in a coma? I did hear about that.

Speaker 1 What happened with that? That sucks. How much does she weigh? I don't know.

Speaker 1 She's been in a coma. I think she's doing better, but I don't know.
Fuck. Weight cutting is so dangerous and so unnecessary.
Didn't Khabiba end up in the hospital?

Speaker 1 I don't believe so. Yeah, he did when he was going to fight Tony Ferguson.
He had a kidney failure. That's right.
Bro, that's so amazing. Brandon's an encyclopedia.
Encyclopedia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's almost like we're throwing him softballs just to see.

Speaker 1 Like, I wanted to.

Speaker 1 You're probably studying too much that you're going to fight on how many days now? God damn.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you.
I'm going to.

Speaker 1 He's got wearing the Google glasses. You see those glasses that you can wear and

Speaker 1 they have facial recognition technology so you can look at a stranger and it'll start scrolling everything about them on the internet. I don't want that.

Speaker 1 So you can look at a stranger, he picks up their face, and it goes, oh, this guy's this. You get their credits.
You go for a Google search. They'll find their home address.

Speaker 1 And you know the difference between virtual reality and augmented reality? No. Augmented reality is you put the glass.

Speaker 1 So you could put those fucking meta goggles on and you can be in a different dimension You could be fucking fighting zombies in a desert or you could put the glasses on and you see everything in the room But then other shit pops up Pokemons and shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yo

Speaker 1 dude. There's there's a company called an app called soapbox

Speaker 1 and dude It's you put these glasses on and you could have like metallica jamming in your fucking room.

Speaker 1 And it's like you see everybody here, but then James Hetfield is right here playing guitar

Speaker 1 it's crazy you could do that with fighting is there any way you could have like me fighting in a virtual that's coming no that's good augmented reality is you see everything but new shit pops up you know you know what you could do that for you could do that like the same way the ties use like play sparring yeah you could spar without getting hurt right but you just

Speaker 1 you would you would need to do real sparring too but it probably could help you 100 yeah they have they have something similar in football but in baseball too what they have now is the pitchers where it's the virtual reality Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he does the whole wind-up, and it comes because

Speaker 1 they need hand recognition. They need to see the release.
So they have the technology now where the release comes out, and then the machine shoots it out.

Speaker 1 Curveballs, sinkers.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I've seen this. This giant screen.

Speaker 2 We've got to get the feed for this for the Fight Companion.

Speaker 1 I know, right? So we could send it. They should be able to send it to us.
What it is, is

Speaker 1 they go to see it, and they're in front of a hundred-foot screen. What the fuck? You're standing, like, literally on the edge of the octagon, watching it way bigger than we're watching.

Speaker 2 This is what happens in the meta headset set.

Speaker 1 You can do this with headsets. This is one better than this.
But this is physical. This is real.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there's a place in Los Angeles, Jamie, that's way better than this.

Speaker 2 Well, this was the first one. This is the same company.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 The same company? I was just trying to find the UFC.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe it's just a different video, but they had one of the Yuri Prohaska versus Pereira Fight, and it's bananas. Like you're watching this enormous screen, and they're serving drinks.

Speaker 1 It's better than being there live. It's already killed a movie.
Because you also can get commentary. It's already killed a movie.
Where is this?

Speaker 2 So they have one in Dallas, I think. They have one in maybe in LA.

Speaker 1 It's better. I think it's in LA, right? Yeah.
It's amazing. It's called Cosmos.

Speaker 1 So look at the screen. So look how this is.
Look how big the fucking screen is.

Speaker 1 You're better than there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they have a different feed than you can get on TV.

Speaker 1 Yo, that sphere? I went to the UFC at the sphere. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Have you ever went to the UFC? Yo,

Speaker 1 dude. I was there.
I did commentary. You were there? I was there there for the UFC.
What do you mean you were there? I was there in the audience. UFC Nochez.
How come you didn't fucking tell me?

Speaker 1 I went with the CPI guys. Oh.
And, dude, he asked if you were working. When I went,

Speaker 1 I was working. Yeah, you were busy.

Speaker 1 Joe Rogan was there.

Speaker 1 You were so goddamn busy. Yeah, were you? You didn't know what I got.
I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 I wasn't planning on going.

Speaker 1 I got invited last minute. I got picked up in a private jet.
I'm like, how am I going to say no? So we're, dude, that sphere shit amazing it's insane insane i was thinking

Speaker 1 there's no way you can go back to regular ufcs after this live have you done the spirit the sphere thing the sphere well we did the

Speaker 1 it's insane dog it's crazy it's so much money though it's too much money i'd rather have better cards than the apex how was it what did you think oh that's right you didn't like it that was your official experience

Speaker 1 yeah i'd love to dude it was insane it was an incredible experience incredible for the face incredible do you think it'd be

Speaker 1 beatable thing? It was incredible. That's what it looked like.
It was incredible. Back it up a little bit, Jamie.
Back it up a little bit. I was blown the fuck

Speaker 1 away. Yeah.
Wow. It was crazy.
It's amazing. But it's so much more expensive.
That was like $20. They got to make it cheaper.

Speaker 1 They got to make it cheaper. No big deal.
I think the fights are enough, though. If you need to do it, nothing is too expensive.

Speaker 1 If you could do it, if you could do it, nothing is too expensive. This is what it is.
If you could do it,

Speaker 1 it's business. This is what I think.
Once a year. Once a year.
Once a year, we do this a year. We're getting to a point.
But you do it July 4th, American Independence.

Speaker 1 All that shit. All that shit.
But you've got to keep doing it. I'll tell you what,

Speaker 1 I think Independence Day was pretty fucking dope. Dude, imagine American and you have bone nick.
Look at this.

Speaker 1 What's going to happen is there's going to be a sphere in every major city, and it's going to

Speaker 1 concerts.

Speaker 1 Dude, bands.

Speaker 1 It's never too expensive. I know, but Eddie, it's never too expensive.
You're not right. It's not.
No, it is. It's not too expensive.
Because you can't make money off the tickets.

Speaker 1 You need Vegas for this because Vegas. Technology gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.

Speaker 1 You can get a fucking 90 fucking, you go to Best Buy and get a 90-foot fucking screen for $200.

Speaker 1 I think it's more than they were supposed to make $200. $200.

Speaker 2 They're going to start and they only made this one. The next one they're going to make is way smaller.

Speaker 1 But you know what? But you hold on. Eventually the price goes up.

Speaker 1 So the sphere's losing their ass. They're like in billions of dollars in debt.
Yeah. Do we know this? No.
Yes. We're getting to the business.

Speaker 1 The business model is not working.

Speaker 1 so whether it's too expensive or not, right now, whatever. You're saying technology.

Speaker 1 Just based on the experience.

Speaker 1 But just based on the experience. No, no.
What I'm saying is the possibilities. Yeah.
Because I didn't pay shit. I got free tickets and I thought it was the most amazing experience.

Speaker 1 I've been to 9,000 UFC shows. And this one was the best.
But we're getting to a point. But you don't need it, though.

Speaker 1 Like, wouldn't you rather just have it?

Speaker 1 You don't need it, but why not have it? We're getting to a point where anything you can imagine visually you can have. And I'm not going to be able to do it.
It's too expensive.

Speaker 1 See, it's too much money.

Speaker 1 We got to pay rent.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I miss these shows.

Speaker 1 I miss these shows.

Speaker 1 It's too expensive. Bro, I know.

Speaker 1 Saudis, get the Saudis involved. They were involved in this one.
That was Riyadh season. Riyadh Season was partially the sponsor of this.

Speaker 1 When you're sitting in the fucking, when you're watching all that shit, you're watching Love City and you're watching all that shit. It was so incredible.

Speaker 1 It was like that no Chay thing with all the Mexicans and when that chick got her fucking forehead split open. What the fuck? It was crazy.
See it so up close. They should have stopped that fight, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think. I think they should have stopped that fight.
That was an angle. She was not going to stop.
Irene Aldana is a beast.

Speaker 1 She's a monster. She was not going to stop.
But don't that doesn't need to happen. What do you think about that? Do you think they should stop fights with the colours? Was it that bad of a cut?

Speaker 1 That's a crazy cut, man. That cut was like six inches long on her forehead.
They should allow, I think, in between rounds, they should allow them to sew that shit up. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you watch Rambo. Remember, Rambo, Rambo did it.
Rambo did it.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree, dude.

Speaker 1 Shut that shit up, baby.

Speaker 1 We got pay-per-view states.

Speaker 1 Stay in the same position. You have one minute

Speaker 1 up. No gloves.
You do all the page. You do all the fights in the sphere.
You have to go down to the UFC.

Speaker 1 And you do it yourself. You got to do it yourself with a mirror.
If the money wasn't an issue,

Speaker 1 if the money wasn't an issue and technology was like, super money's no issue, bro. No, if money was no issue, the sphere is the answer.
No, that's the sphere is the answer.

Speaker 1 It might be too much of a distraction. Yes.

Speaker 1 You need that to be entertained by the best fighters in the world.

Speaker 1 You're a fucking bro. You're talking about...
Come on, dog.

Speaker 1 Were you on mushrooms, Eddie, when you went there? I was not on mushrooms, Eddie. What makes you feel like you're on mushrooms? I did mushrooms three times and I had enough.

Speaker 1 Like the universe told me, you did enough. You see God.
Yeah. Go live life.

Speaker 1 To make money, that's why U2 has to play there or the EU has to play there like 20 nights in a row. You know what? You have to stick to it.

Speaker 1 For the sphere to make money because you bagged on the sphere, and I see that you have to stick with that. I get it.
I get it. Still don't make money.
They don't stick with it.

Speaker 1 Technically, he went out and just said,

Speaker 1 the sphere was insane. Shop was just being insane.
And it costs $71 million.

Speaker 1 Nothing is to us to find

Speaker 1 in one corner. They give, hey, the government gives the NASA $19 billion a year.

Speaker 1 $19 billion a year.

Speaker 1 This is just a place where you go to see concerts. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 $849 million.

Speaker 1 Dur NASA gets $19 billion a year.

Speaker 1 We can't go to the sphere. We're going to watch a fire.
It's not the same. You don't take tax money to make the sphere.
Look at this. But look at this.

Speaker 1 It says Sphere Entertainment faces near-term debt pressures with $849.8 million coming due in October of 24th, which is now. They owe a lot of money.

Speaker 1 The company is pursuing a workout with lenders to refinance the obligations. They're fucked, man.
They're fucked. But they're fucked.
That's a lot of

Speaker 1 a billion dollars to get. That's because the lights are hearing 24-7.

Speaker 1 Hear me out.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Stop before you talk.

Speaker 1 There's an operating loss of $71 million in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 So this is going to keep compounding quarter to quarter. That's almost $400 million.

Speaker 1 I get it. I get it.
I get it. But let me finish.

Speaker 1 It costs $500 billion, okay? The sphere costs $500 billion.

Speaker 1 It costs $100 billion, right?

Speaker 1 But that's the ultimate shit.

Speaker 1 So we got to figure out how to fucking pay for this, dog.

Speaker 1 We got to have every fighter going out on their Instagram fucking blowing animal tree. It's a DOT trip.

Speaker 1 It's Rainford Corfe. Nothing is too expensive.
No. One of the greatest, nothing is too expensive.
Greatest moments in any event that I've ever seen is Kamaro Usman getting knocked out by Leon Edwards.

Speaker 1 He's losing five rounds of. Imagine that in the sphere, dog.
I can't fucking believe it. It doesn't matter.
It's like anywhere that that happens, a moment like that. You're like, what? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 You're talking about Jackie Dozen.

Speaker 1 Okay, Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson knocking out Mitch Green.
You're talking about Mike.

Speaker 1 Okay, we get it.

Speaker 1 Look at that. Look at that.
They posted a

Speaker 1 $201 million net loss on revenue of $1.03 billion. Okay, this is what I'm saying.
They might have put a billion and they lost $200 million.

Speaker 1 That's nearly double the $573.8 million revenue number in the prior year. That's not a good

Speaker 1 number. Okay, it's going to fail.

Speaker 1 It's going to fail.

Speaker 1 I've been saying this whole time. No, you know what they're gonna do? It's gonna get real cheap, and the Saudis are gonna buy it.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Technology is cheap.

Speaker 1 You can get a VCR right now for $3.

Speaker 1 But those Saudis are actually really expensive. Dude, VCR? These shirts are really expensive.

Speaker 1 VCRs are $3.

Speaker 1 But Joe, but Joe, would the...

Speaker 1 Technology goes down. Have you guys noticed that? You haven't noticed that technology keeps going down.
It keeps going down. And then you have vision.
You're like, fucking technology.

Speaker 1 Some shit's expensive now. We're going to have $234 for a VCR.

Speaker 1 That's so expensive.

Speaker 1 We're going to have the Sphere.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'm shocked that they're $280. That's expensive as shit.
Yo, Jamie Goes, they're actually really expensive. Like, whoa.
That's too long. I was thinking of that.
That's

Speaker 1 way more expensive than I would. Realistically, I thought they'd be like $50 and $24.
You know, the craziest thing is that $49.

Speaker 1 These Apple AR goggles, so they were super light. You could put them on it.
You could watch a movie and like you watch Avatar, like it's on a 100-foot screen.

Speaker 1 I can't see who's around me, so it makes me nervous. No, you can see through it.
You can make it this size, and you can see your house other than that screen. You know, you could point it to a wall.

Speaker 1 You could point it to a wall, like this wall right here. You could fill that wall up to your desired size with a screen and watch a film.

Speaker 1 And not only the desired size, but on soapbox, whatever band you could see, you could see, you could have them, you could put them right here, or you could put them over there, way in the corner of the kitchen,

Speaker 1 or with their backs,

Speaker 1 you could be behind them,

Speaker 1 or you could go right in. Beyonce's feet.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 No, no, seriously. You could put them

Speaker 1 in the chat. You could put these VR characters wherever you want.

Speaker 1 You could see right there. You have a good voice, by the way.
That's a good VR. I didn't know you could dance, dog.
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. Why? Because I'm moving from where? Am I ready? It's from your hand.
It's from your box, After.

Speaker 1 Where's the smelling salts? Oh, yeah. Dude, we got to end with the smelling salts.
Let's end with that.

Speaker 1 We're going to end with the smiling salts.

Speaker 1 Oh, but these are all good. We'll find out.
Some of these have to be. Dude, what if we're all let me ask you this? What if this is a simulation? If you keep extrapolating, some of them have to be.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Oh, are these juju? And I'm not going to do it.
Well, they haven't been freshly opened. I'm going to watch you guys do it.
He's going to do it.

Speaker 1 The freshly opened ones are definitely insane and the membrane would be a good song for this one.

Speaker 1 Insane and the cyber

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 The arms take a good deep song.

Speaker 1 You gotta get in there with those. You gotta get in there with those.
Oh, fuck. Get it here, guys.
Here, bring your hands here. Here.
It's in the ring.

Speaker 1 It's end of the membrane. It's end of the brain.

Speaker 1 It's end of the membrane.

Speaker 1 It's end of the brain. Eddie, you should go on that Hot Wing show.

Speaker 1 It's end of the membrane. You should go on that Hot Ring show and talk about flat earth and aliens and

Speaker 1 devils. Oh my god.
It's end of the brain. This is weak.

Speaker 1 I needed a stronger one. Yeah, I could have smelled that all day.
Okay, next.

Speaker 1 You got a real one? You know what? That last one wasn't that strong. It's aid of the bed brain.

Speaker 1 It's end of the brain.

Speaker 1 It's end of the brand.

Speaker 1 It's gone. It's gone.
That's the real deal. That's good luck.
Oh, fuck. Oh, oh, where did she go down?

Speaker 1 What is this one?

Speaker 1 That's like the strongest one.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's the strongest one right there. Many, it's from here.
Here. No, this was stronger.
Oh, that was stronger.

Speaker 1 Take it out. That was stronger.
Where did she go down?

Speaker 1 When did she go down?

Speaker 1 It's dead in the bed brain. It's dead in the brain.

Speaker 1 It's good, guys. It's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's stronger, right? That one's

Speaker 1 the stronger.

Speaker 1 That's the strong one. I'm getting used to it, though.
We solve a lot of problems. I gotta hang with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah!

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 one of my favorite scenes in any movie. Give me that.
Of all time. What's that? Opening scene of Blade.
That's the song that's Joey Diaz. When all the

Speaker 1 vampires, all the vampires.

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe, here's my question. Back to the fighting.
With the Saudi money,

Speaker 1 how long are they going to keep investing because they're losing their ass? Did you notice nobody's

Speaker 1 don't give a vote? Well, you know they're never coming back to America because they lost their ass on the Terrence Crawford fight, so they're not coming back to the US.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, do you know that they're in business with Dana White now?

Speaker 1 Okay. So this is what's going on.
So Dana White and Riyadh Season are going to start promoting boxing.

Speaker 1 Which I think Dana's boxing's probably going to tell you all the plans, but apparently...

Speaker 1 His Excellency had a very difficult time with a lot of the boxing promoters. Didn't enjoy working with the boxing people.

Speaker 1 And essentially what he said to Danny's like, how the fuck did you deal with these people? He's like, I was trying to tell you. And he's like, why don't we do something? And Dan's like, let's talk.

Speaker 1 And so that's what's happening right now.

Speaker 1 Now, if that happens, you're going to have very similar things to what the Saudis are doing. The Saudis are just saying, I want to see this fight.
So what is it going to cost?

Speaker 1 And they don't care if people are in the stands.

Speaker 1 Like Martin Boccoli, when he fought Jared Anderson, they didn't. Jared Anderson's people were saying, do not take that fight.

Speaker 1 But Martin Bocoli, who's the most dangerous fucking guy in the heavyweight division that nobody knows about, do you know that guy? No. From the Congo? I don't know any of that.

Speaker 1 Martin Bocoli's fucking terrifying. There's a guy in

Speaker 1 Jamie.

Speaker 1 There's a black guy in 1FC from fucking Africa. From Rugrug? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my fucking God. His name is Rugrugal.
Fucking Checha. Whoa.
Yeah. That guy is insane.

Speaker 1 Martin Bocoli. Martin Bocoli, Jared Anderson, bro.

Speaker 1 That guy. He is the most.
This is Martin Bocoli. He's the most

Speaker 1 feared heavyweight. He's fucking huge.
And Jared Anderson was undefeated. He was like the American prospect.
And Bocoli just starts putting it to him. And he's really hard to hit, too, man.

Speaker 1 And this guy's fighting.

Speaker 1 The guy with back

Speaker 1 Roy Jones Jr. teaches that guy.
That's his protege. Wow, he just took this fight a little too early.
And Bocoli's just fucking.

Speaker 1 He's young. He's like 20.
How much does he weigh? Look at that. Oh, damn.
Boom. Is he going to be in there with the Bakoli's like 260? He's like Tyson Fury and all that shit.
He's in the mix.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 He's the next wave. Oh, he's the next one? No, but he can do it right now.
And he fucks those guys up and sparring.

Speaker 1 Like, the stories about this guy and sparring, everybody he brings in, he gives them a world of hell.

Speaker 1 But I think you let, and I think Dana go into boxing is great because you let Dana get involved with this guy and turn these guys into the actual star.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, man, nobody knows who this guy is. Martin Bocoli, he's the fucking

Speaker 1 problem, yeah. He's the future.
That's the future. He knocks everybody out.
He's got an iron chin. No losses? I don't know if he has any losses.

Speaker 1 He might have one. They throw on a tale.
Early in his career, but they stopped the fight.

Speaker 1 He beat the brakes off. He looks like a giant Rick Ross.
He's huge, too. What's his record? Let's see what his record is, Jim.
He's from Los Angeles. One loss.
One loss.

Speaker 1 I think he has one loss early in his career. Where the fuck did he lose?

Speaker 1 Loss to TKO. But we haven't seen him against him.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 okay. Michael Hunter beat him.
We got to look into that guy. Six years ago.
We haven't seen him against the biggest, the best guys, though, right? Yet he's always

Speaker 1 talk about me, you know, but as he keeps keeps coming up, the talk about him and sparring is that nobody likes it. It's terrifying.

Speaker 1 And then when you see him beat up Anderson, that's the word is that like Anderson should have avoided him. He looks like George Foreman.
Huge dude. Huge dude.

Speaker 1 Similar. So that fight only took place because the Saudis were like, hey, like Bob Aaron was just talking about it, saying he shouldn't have taken the fight.

Speaker 1 And then he advised them to not take the fight. But Jared Anderson doesn't have that kind of Floyd Mayweather type money.
And all of a sudden the Saudis are like, how much? How much?

Speaker 1 Because they printed money. And then they came up with the amount and he's like, okay, I'll take it.
And they're like, ooh, but it's just quite too early. It's wild.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're giving us the fights we want to see, but the crowd, because there's no natural fan base there. Like, they're not.
But a lot of people are flying in there to see those fights. Sure.

Speaker 1 Because it's such a big deal. And that's what their hope is, tourism.
But as far as like

Speaker 1 as long as they be cool with like Western ideas and don't fuck with women wearing skirts and shit like that. Yeah.
As long as they change their relationships.

Speaker 1 As long as we just

Speaker 1 allow Westerners to come there and feel safe, like Dubai. Dubai is is like one of the safest fucking places on the ground.

Speaker 1 If you leave a Rolex on the ground in Dubai, someone will fucking turn it in. Sure.
Do you know that there's

Speaker 1 you would think that Mexico is like the least safest place, but do you know that five cities in Mexico are among the top eight and the safest cities in North America?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the cartel doesn't like violence. It's not

Speaker 1 there's certain cities where the cartel doesn't allow any violence. Like

Speaker 1 Merida. Merida, it's by Cancun.
Safest city in North

Speaker 1 is in Mexico.

Speaker 1 The safest city is in North,

Speaker 1 dude. Who would ever thought that?

Speaker 1 Good deal. That's like Vegas was run by the mob.
It was great. Bro, I made a mistake.
I was talking about the cartel because they have the Baja 1000, Baja 500, like all the off-road races.

Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah, there's some killing. And I had my information off.
Dude, the off-road community was like, say what? Because it's super safe. Like, no, dude, you're fucking us.

Speaker 1 Like, we can't get tourism down here because that's the narrative in America. Yeah, every time someone gets whacked, it becomes big news.
But people get whacked in America. All the time.
Every day.

Speaker 1 Oh, Chicago. Super Satan.
Yeah. It's only within the world.

Speaker 1 Oak Oakland is like,

Speaker 1 what's going on at Oakland? To drive through those Oakland shanty towns, we have these homeless communities that go for blocks and blocks and blocks. Don't show up.
Nope. East Oakland.

Speaker 1 Don't show up. I think you're talking about the Taiwanese people.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Oakland's way worse. Why do you think Oakland Raiders left? Oakland Hayes are gone.
They're all gone. Go to Oakland homeless camps.
They're crazy. There's a lot of people who started.

Speaker 1 Is it a red or a blue state?

Speaker 1 Is there any of those in the booster state? I'm just asking questions. Austin probably is the worst homeless problem.
Well, maybe Dallas is a homeless program. Austin's out of control.
I just drove

Speaker 1 a lot better.

Speaker 1 They're trying to fix LA.

Speaker 1 You don't know about the city. LA camps that have been.
Brian, your opinions are amongst the worst. What do you mean? Well, LA is a lot bigger, so we're going to have more homeless people.

Speaker 1 They've actually mitigated the homeless people considering that.

Speaker 1 They don't let them camp on the streets here. Here, you mean? No, they clean them up.
If they do it under the underpasses, they do it for one night.

Speaker 1 They clean them up, man.

Speaker 1 They actually moved them out of there. They jumped.

Speaker 1 Austin, really? Yeah, they cleaned it up substantially from when I first moved. But Joe, where we lived out, and I still live there, where we used to live, we didn't deal with homelessness.

Speaker 1 No, but that's a different thing.

Speaker 1 You got to go into downtown's the worst.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I'm in downtown every day.
All downtown.

Speaker 1 They've cleaned up a lot of it in downtown. That's good.
They're trying to. This is underpasses in Oakland.
But by the way,

Speaker 1 so Austin has tackled their homeless problem? They've done a great job. I had the mayor in to talk to me about what he was going to do.
They bought hotels and they moved people in.

Speaker 1 There's a bunch of different programs out here where they're trying to give people life skills and they allow. It's a bad problem, though, isn't it? It's 100%.

Speaker 1 Houston's done the best job. And mental health.
Houston's done the best job. And what way? Yeah.
Houston's the best. Houston.

Speaker 1 They got it on it early, yeah. Really? Yeah.
They got it early. Well, I had the mayor in here at the time, Stephen Adler, and he said, you got to take care of the problem before it gets too big.

Speaker 1 Steven Adler's the drummer for Guns N Roses. I know, crazy, same name.

Speaker 1 They were like, the first thing you got to do is make sure it doesn't get as big as LA's is, where you can't do anything anymore. It's too late.
LA's too big.

Speaker 1 He's like, we only have like 2,000, 3,000 homeless people. He's like, we can put a stop to this.
And what do they do? Put them in the store. Yeah, they kill them.
They make sausage.

Speaker 1 Homeless sausage.

Speaker 1 They have a bunch of programs. I actually went to, I had one of the guys who runs one of those programs on the podcast.

Speaker 1 What was it that gentleman's name again?

Speaker 1 Has Seattle and Portland done anything about their fucking insanity? No, they don't care either. Dude,

Speaker 1 they finance it.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. Everyone's diverse.

Speaker 1 Some people like to shoot up.

Speaker 1 I had a friend.

Speaker 1 I had a friend who moved his family. Alan Graham.
Alan Graham. Alan Graham.
He loaves and fishes, right, is the name of his company.

Speaker 1 Dude, I had a friend who moved out of, I don't want to say his name, but he moved out of Seattle.

Speaker 1 Mike Tyson. Not Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 You know what? He grapples like Mike Tyson. He does.
He does grapple. But he moved out of Seattle because of the wokeness.
He moved to Arkansas, and he thought it was the greatest move ever.

Speaker 1 He was like fucking in Arkansas and he thought, oh my God. And then the KJK fucked him.

Speaker 1 And then, no,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 His wife was pregnant.

Speaker 1 And they were, you know, they took a couple edibles here and there. She gave birth to a black baby.
No. I'm trying to, I don't know how to do it.
She got tested for. Marijuana? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now they're like fucking facing like criminal charges. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. So it's like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I left Seattle.
So they just tested her because she was pregnant and she had taken an edible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. So now they're in deep shit.
So you know, oh my goodness. Yeah, it's a friend of mine.
My friend. And we're like trying to figure this out.

Speaker 1 I'm like, damn, you need to go back to Seattle, dog. We need to get Trump on that.
But you know, this is

Speaker 1 a lot of people. Arkansas don't fuck around with weed.

Speaker 1 A friend of mine had a dinner party and a pregnant she was like seven months pregnant she was hungry and i think she saw some fruit loops or some or whatever and ate them turned out they were they were weed uh oh no weed loop check it out so she got super high and they took her she went to the emergency room because she was pregnant right

Speaker 1 but the doctor said um i'm not i'm not that worried i'm worried about alcohol if it was alcohol i'd be one more worried i'm not worried about this oh it's not toxic

Speaker 1 is that what it is yeah you shouldn't be getting high while you're pregnant but it's not toxic it's not like you have to worry about the kid getting poisoned and fetal alcohol syndrome and a bunch of things that are worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very, very, very bad for the child, especially when someone's a rampant alcoholic, raging alcoholics that are pregnant. It's a

Speaker 1 devastating impact on the child. But he said you don't have to worry about anything.
He was not toxic. He was like, man, it's not the end of the world.

Speaker 1 No, there's actually studies about people who smoke marijuana while their kids in the movie. It's like, don't do it, but it's not the worst thing in the world.
It's not a toxic thing. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, but you can't be good. It can't be good.
It's not good for kids. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 Developing minds shouldn't have anything.

Speaker 1 We all did it. We all snuck booze and all kinds of shit when we were kids and we were teenagers.

Speaker 1 But the reality is, like, especially men, our fucking frontal cortex doesn't even develop correctly until we're like 25. Exactly.
Or 40. Or 50.
But alcohol.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about what's bad for you. If you look at the studies on alcohol,

Speaker 1 a moderate amount,

Speaker 1 but this one is different, bro. It's different, bro.
Alexander. It's from Trong.
I can't believe you guys have to do that. No, this is from Paso Robles.
No, I'm hanging out. I can't believe.

Speaker 1 Are you ready? Dude, I got a.

Speaker 1 Trump hung in there for three hours, didn't pee, left, didn't pee before he left. He's a robot.
Just got in here, didn't have to use the restroom, sat down for three hours.

Speaker 1 And these are his Diet Coaches. Dude, you know what? And then flew out.
They're his Diet Coke? Yeah, there's one Diet Coke's for him. He likes Diet Coke.

Speaker 1 He's the only guy I know that drinks more Diet Cooks. You know why he drinks Diet Coke and eats McDonald's? Because they can't poison that.

Speaker 1 Well, no, McDonald's has an issue. That's not fun.

Speaker 1 McDonald's has an issue. No, if he goes to McDonald's, how are they going to poison the McDonald's? How are they going to poison the Diet Coke? That's true.
No, that's real.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if that's why he's there. I think it tastes delicious.
He likes it. I think he likes Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Speaker 1 How tall is he in person? Big dude? He's like 6'1, I guess. What about him? Oh, shorter than I thought.
That's what Schultze said. Schultz said, He goes, he's actually smaller.
Taller than I thought.

Speaker 1 He probably shrank a little as he's gotten older.

Speaker 1 But he's 78. I thought he was like 6'4.
He was.

Speaker 1 Maybe he was at one point in time. He shrunk.
But a very nice guy and fun to talk to. We had a good time.

Speaker 1 I talked to him like I talked to everybody. I swore.
I just talked normal. Has your Trump impression improved since? I don't have a good Trump impression.
Jane Gilbert has so much.

Speaker 1 Has that improved? That was like a little bit.

Speaker 1 He didn't sound like Trump with you. He didn't sound like Trump with you.
He sounded more like he was just more calm. His voice is a little bit more difficult.

Speaker 1 Could you hear his

Speaker 1 doing?

Speaker 1 He didn't think he was going to get attacked. Oh, yeah.
You know, his guard was down. Well, it's not even that his guard was down.
Like, he knew I wasn't going to fuck with him.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I just want to talk to you. Yeah.
Like, the same way I would treat Kamala Harris. I just want to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 Just like, I just want to know what, what did you do? Why did you do this? What was it like when you got in office? Like there was a bunch of things that I needed to ask him about.

Speaker 1 There's a few that I didn't get to. Abortion was one of them.
Psychedelics was another one. There's a couple different things that I did want to talk to him about.

Speaker 1 But the big one for me was like, what the fuck is it like when you've never governed anything ever? And then all of a sudden you're in the White House. Like what's that experience like?

Speaker 1 Well, he was very,

Speaker 1 it takes a while because he goes on these journeys, he likes to talk about different kinds of things and he calls it a weave and he brings it back to the original subject.

Speaker 1 But he can talk about anything he wants that way, he kind of dictates the conversation. But I had to kind of bring him back to

Speaker 1 you have thousands of people. Like, how many people did you have to appoint? He had to appoint 10,000 different people to these jobs, and he has no experience, so he doesn't know these people.

Speaker 1 So he's taking other people's advice. And there was a lot of people that I put in that I shouldn't have put in.

Speaker 1 And you know, he's super honest about it and what he did and what he was trying to do by imparting tariffs and by decreasing taxes. He wanted to stimulate business and he wants to drill for oil.

Speaker 1 He said, We have more oil in this country than any country in the world.

Speaker 1 He said, We can be completely self-sustaining in the United States, bring American manufacturing back.

Speaker 1 The way that we get taxed if we sell our stuff overseas, we should be taxing them. We should be hitting them with tariffs.
He even floated out the idea.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if this would work, but he floated out the idea we could

Speaker 1 end income tax and just rely totally on tariffs. Totally.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine we're paying 50% of our fucking money and we still got to pay for water? We still got to pay for energy. We got a water bill and we're paying 50% of our fucking checks.

Speaker 1 That shit should be fucking free.

Speaker 1 That shit should be fucking free. Take it easy.

Speaker 1 Get a well. Can you do Joey Diaz doing an impression?

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe,

Speaker 1 what did he say about the wall? Did you talk about the wall at all? Yeah. He was talking about what they're doing, what they're trying to do.
And it's very clear that they're trying, he thinks,

Speaker 1 they're trying to get voters. Of course.

Speaker 1 They're bringing people in. They're financially incentivizing them to give them housing

Speaker 1 no ID to vote and then amnesty they're trying to give them amnesty and they keep pushing for this stuff and they they mysteriously wind up in swing states yep yeah but two

Speaker 1 mysteriously yeah it's crazy and then that app that the the original use of that app i can pull up that app because i i saved this because it's it's very bizarre when you when you really uh find out what it actually is all about the original app was used as a shipping app it was used it was one of those things where people used it because you're in the country for a certain amount of time because you brought over a bunch of goods.

Speaker 1 Do you know what they're finding, though, when those immigrants actually vote, second-generation immigrants? Careful now, Don Lemon. Listen, listen, listen, listen.
This is a fact.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 what you forget is they come from Catholic, conservative cultures. So, guess what? The second generation always votes? Republican.
Well, that's certainly true if you come from Venezuela.

Speaker 1 Those guys were bringing in from Venezuela, except for

Speaker 1 them are from Venezuela. They don't get down with the transgender or the abortion, none of that.
So, they vote Republicans. None None of those colours.
They're very Catholic.

Speaker 1 And so that's the first thing. But if you get amnesty, and you get all these benefits from...

Speaker 1 Here's something people aren't talking about. You want to hear this? I'm going to send it to you, Jamie.
Listen to this, Bob. So with that wall, when you build a wall like that, guess what?

Speaker 1 You put in roads. You put in like...
50, 100 major roadways to get all the material to the wall. Guess what that does? The Sonoran Desert and the Chihuahuan Desert are amazing natural barriers.

Speaker 1 Now that you put roads in there, it actually makes it easier for migrants to walk those roads at night. So it made it easier.
That's the irony of that wall.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot of things that go on with this fucking immigration that you do one thing, you never know

Speaker 1 what the ripple effect is. Well, we do know what we're doing is not working.
A hundred percent. Jamie, put up with that thing that I showed you.
No, this is the weirdest one. This is the app.
The U.S.

Speaker 1 Customs Border Protection CBP is several mobile apps, including CBP1, Mobile Passport Control, MPC, and MyCBP.

Speaker 1 So launched in October 2020, the free app provides access to a variety of CBP services. It uses guided questions to help users find the right services, forms, or applications.

Speaker 1 CBP1 was originally used to help commercial trucking companies schedule cargo inspections. In 2023, the app was expanded to allow unauthorized migrants.

Speaker 1 So they changed this app that was just for shipping. And so these people can now use this app and request asylum and book appointments at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Speaker 1 So they're just full-scale trying to bring people in. They're also doing that so they can travel, though, too.
They're giving them money. They're giving them housing.

Speaker 1 And they're going to provide amnesty and they're voters.

Speaker 1 So now they're voters. Who are they going to vote for? Are they going to vote for the people that want to deport them? No.

Speaker 1 They're going to vote for the people that gave them money and food stamps and housing and brought them to America. That's not.
It just makes sense. Yes, it does, but guess what?

Speaker 1 Because they're so conservative, they a lot of times. I disagree with Brian.

Speaker 1 You're talking about next generation, right?

Speaker 1 But here's the thing: once you get that system rigged, you really get that system rigged, you never have to worry about those states ever becoming red again. Just like California.

Speaker 1 California's never going to become red again.

Speaker 1 They've got that thing down.

Speaker 1 They did amnesty in California. They allowed people to vote in California.

Speaker 1 And then they just set up a bunch of policies that make it very convenient for people that are migrants to come across the border. Can't wait to get it.

Speaker 1 And then you have mail-in ballots and you have no voter ID, so you don't know who the fuck's voting. That's true.
And you essentially rigged an election without doing anything completely illegal.

Speaker 1 Everything is like fairly legal. It's an interesting thing because you wonder about whether or not

Speaker 1 they will create that problem though, whether the second generation, but here's the other issue.

Speaker 1 You could technically, they say, first of all, I think we're the only country in the world where when you vote is not a national holiday. Like

Speaker 1 that's ridiculous. That's insane.
Yeah, but it favors Republicans, just so you know.

Speaker 1 For whatever reason, I don't know why, but it favors Republicans because if you gave everybody the day off, people would be able to take time off to vote. How does that mean?

Speaker 1 More poor people or Democrats. Well, whatever you want to call it.
Interesting. But that's one thing.
I mean, whatever you want to call it. That would be one thing.
But here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 The people that can't afford to take this

Speaker 1 are less wealthy. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 You could technically. You could, and we are going to get to the point where technically, you could use biometrics to

Speaker 1 vote from your phone. and keep the fraud down to at least a minimum so it wouldn't change.
It wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the problem is anything you have, anytime you have something on a computer, you've got shenanigans. Jimmy Carter figured out this in the 1970s.
Trump was talking about it.

Speaker 1 That Jimmy Carter realized back then that you can't have mail-in ballots because there's too much room for fraud. There's no chain of, the chain of custody is funky, right?

Speaker 1 From someone drops it in a mailbox, the guy picks it up, no one's watching him, he brings it in a sack.

Speaker 1 What if that guy's a nutty Democrat or a nutty Republican, and he knows he's in a Democrat county and they're all Biden signs on there, so he picks up their mail and throws their shit in the middle of the market.

Speaker 1 That's our documentary 2,000 years.

Speaker 1 Larger thing. Watch that shit.
I didn't see that. I had that guy on my podcast.
Watch that show. Watch that shit.
So I had him on my podcast. What's his name? Dinesh D'Souza.

Speaker 1 And I kept asking him, though, I was like,

Speaker 1 because you keep talking about there's more evidence. So there's hundreds of hours or thousands of hours of CCT

Speaker 1 footage. And they just, at the end of the day, never delivered on it.

Speaker 1 It's in the documentary. Just watch it.

Speaker 1 I think. Maybe he didn't deliver it on your podcast, but he put a documentary on it.
I saw it. I watched it.
2000. I watched the documentary.

Speaker 1 What about it? So, so in the documentary. Brian is fully indoctrinated in the CIA.
When do you think it happened? I don't know. Is Kamal giving you money?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to be doing one of them fucking things right next to Beyonce with a stupid smile on his face. This podcast is being sponsored by Kamal Harris.
This wine is actually for you.

Speaker 1 He has to leave early to go hang on with John Legend. He's probably got her own vision.

Speaker 1 I got another bottle of the 2000. It's over, isn't it? Do you have 2020 cold dough? Dude, I'm obsessed with this.

Speaker 1 He's like, yo, this is 2013.

Speaker 1 2013, that was a few years ago. Wine people are so weird.
That wine was okay. Come on.
He's like, I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 Now, if it was 2001,

Speaker 1 would there be a difference? It depends. Difference.
Depends on the drought and whether or not climate change is real.

Speaker 1 See, that's why Leonardo DiCaprio is voting for Kamala Harris. It has nothing to do with the Diddy parties.

Speaker 1 Nothing to do with the Diddy parties. And he's endorsed Kamala Harris because of climate change.

Speaker 1 Did you see him? He's on a yacht and then on a private jet? Literally, like last week. Yeah, yeah.
But what do you think?

Speaker 1 Do you think that we're going to get the names from the Diddy parties or is that going to go away? I think that one's going to come out. Are people being paid off right now?

Speaker 1 No, I think Diddy is probably a spiteful man and he probably is going to be in jail for the rest of his life and they're probably going to sing a song.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying, how many people are getting paid right now to shut up? How many cases are falling apart? Because I'll tell you this. I don't know if that's really going on.
This is the thing.

Speaker 1 We don't know who is involved in this whole Diddy thing.

Speaker 1 Is this an intelligence agency thing where they were trying to compromise people that were famous and get them to endorse certain political candidates? Is it that

Speaker 1 you're close with Obama? Or is it really just Diddy masterminded the whole thing like a fucking gangster? Hey, bro,

Speaker 1 you're going down that conspiracy route more and more. You're getting...

Speaker 1 How is that a conspiracy? Was Epsom a conspiracy, though? But wait a minute. What's a conspiracy that I'm doing? Didn't

Speaker 1 start. But what am I going down with this one? I think Diddy might have just been a fucking criminal slash.
Yeah, I just said that. I said possibility.
No, he said it.

Speaker 1 I said a possibility that that he is the gangster and he ran this whole blackmail operation himself. Yeah, 100%.
Listen, the guy was involved in music, right?

Speaker 1 And you get compromising information on these guys and get them to sign very unfavorable contracts.

Speaker 1 Like, what better way to get a guy to sign an unfavorable contract where you're going to get billions? Because he was a billionaire. Yes.
Right. You fuck that guy and film it.

Speaker 1 You get video of your boys fucking that guy and filming it. And you let him know you always have that.
And underage girls.

Speaker 1 Well, you put these guys on GHB or whatever the fuck they're putting putting them on? They're out of their minds.

Speaker 1 They don't know what's going on. Yeah, sure.
Don't say blow their asses. Yeah, that's what he was doing.
But you're like, Meek Mellon stuff. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 But do you know Diddy won a lawsuit against that alcohol company? The alcohol company. Sirock.
Sorak, he won like a billion-dollar deal. And once that happened, then this all came out.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, what did he win a deal? What was the deal?

Speaker 1 Some lawsuits.

Speaker 1 Some racism thing. Well, it's like they probably

Speaker 1 have you looked into this out there. Everybody probably all knew.
This was like an open secret, the Diddy Party thing. The freak offs like the cosmos.

Speaker 1 He literally called them freak offs. He has pulled his lawsuit in the wake of the sexual abuse allegations levied against him.

Speaker 1 Oh, so he didn't win. So let me ask you.
No, he already won. But homo says, how much did Diddy win? Voluntarily dismisses racial discrimination lawsuit.
At the time of the company,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 2 that was January, and then two months later it says they have an agreement.

Speaker 1 The agreement included a 50-50 split with the company, but now Diagos owns 100%.

Speaker 1 It's estimated that Diddy made about $60 million

Speaker 1 annually from the deal, according to reports. I bet you, I bet you right now.
And Diddy made a lot of money back when there was money in music.

Speaker 1 I think lawyers are contacting his lawyers and going, hey, you want this to go away? Million dollars. Well, you know that's going away.

Speaker 1 But you know how this all started? Some lady came out and had all this evidence, went to Diddy's team. There was also the video of him beating the fuck out of that one.

Speaker 1 That fucked him, but even right after that, some lady went up to to his team and was like, Hey, I have the evidence here. He raped me.
If you don't pay me, I'm going to go live with it.

Speaker 1 And they were like, Yeah, good luck, lady. She goes live with it, and then a bunch of more people are like, Oh, shit.
And then an actual law firm was like, No, there's a case here.

Speaker 1 They looked at the evidence. There's a case here.
But when you see him beating her up, I believe he can do anything to them. If you can do that to a woman, beat her up, you can do anything.

Speaker 1 Sean Combs accused sexually abusing 120 people, including 25 miles. Dude, 60 of them are dudes.

Speaker 1 But here's the

Speaker 1 60 dudes.

Speaker 1 Like with the Jeff Repsing thing, I want to see how many people actually come forward because I think people are getting paid. I think what happens...
He's going to run out of money, though.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying, though? Like, all of a sudden, I think what happens is everybody goes, lawyers go, hey,

Speaker 1 we're making a claim. Well,

Speaker 1 if he's a billionaire, that's $1,000 million.

Speaker 1 So, like, how much of that is tied up?

Speaker 1 How many billions does he actually have? They go to you and they say, we'll give you a million dollars unless you want to drag this out. I bet it's a lot more than a million, Brian.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe, but I mean, I'm i'm saying if that girl wanted 30 and he said no i bet it's i don't know who knows right but the thing is like there's also murders there's deaths

Speaker 1 there's also people that mysteriously died of pneumonia his baby his baby mama died of drug overdose yet she wasn't a drug addict at all and she died in a starbucks parking lot

Speaker 1 no at 7 a.m there's some there's some sketchy shit involved in this and you know whether it's him or people who work with him or for him or can't i don't think we get the list i think there's too many powerful people that are involved with the left i don't think we get the list A lot of fucking music executives stepped down.

Speaker 1 You saw that, right? Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of executives.
Quietly dipping out.

Speaker 1 That's my time. Why do you honestly think that here's my theory on the Jeffrey Epstein thing? Because I went down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 I think he was probably, like, definitely worked for intelligence, probably Massad or something.

Speaker 1 And he had a shitload of shit. Damn.
Yeah, I went down.

Speaker 1 I went down that Daryl Cooper. Yeah.
Daryl Cooper's. I was like, what? I went down Daryl Cooper's.
I love that guy. Have you ever listened to the Martyrmaid podcast? Yes.
That must be awesome.

Speaker 1 That guy got canceled in the stupidest fucking way possible. I love that guy.

Speaker 1 He was just trying to say that there was a lot of factors involved in the Nazis killing the Jews. And one of them was like they were being starved out by the embargo by Winston Churchill.

Speaker 1 If you listened to Daryl Cooper's podcast, you know he's not an anti-Semite. No.
You know he's not super sensitive. He got canceled for that.
What he says is he's canceled.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was on Tucker Carlson's podcast, and a bunch of people went after him. But it's the usual thing.
They did it without context and nuance.

Speaker 1 He's a very smart guy who has pity for both sides. He's such a smart guy.
He does all the research. You want to learn about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

Speaker 1 Listen to Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem. What did he say? Listen, just listen to it.

Speaker 1 It's a six. Give me a little synopsis.

Speaker 1 I can't do it here, but it's beautiful. Well, that is such a fucked up situation down there.
That's horrible.

Speaker 1 But he really, as somebody who lived there for eight years of my life, and you lived where eight years? I lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. Where did that live?

Speaker 1 I lived in the Middle East for a long time.

Speaker 1 wasn't he wasn't but but he was in bank yeah but but i know i i i grew up around the arabs i love the arabs i know the arabs i know palestinians very well i grew up around them i grew up around lebanese i grew up around saudi arabians i love those people so but but i also understand a lot about jewish history and when you listen to his podcast that's all i say is what you will find is you will you will end up coming out shaking your head maybe saying a prayer because you won't have answers you won't does anybody have an answer though it's been going on for so long it's been going on since Moses had a parting of the ways with the Pharaoh.

Speaker 1 It's been going on B.C. 1,400 years ago.
Like, there's no simple hat feels in the McCoy's

Speaker 1 in the Middle East edition.

Speaker 1 And there's no simple answers. And I remind people that Gaza was mentioned in the Old Testament.
If you read the Old Testament, it's mentioned, I don't know, fucking 15, 20, 30 times, right?

Speaker 1 So it's always been a rough place in one way or another. But having said all that.
All those ancient places, man. Dude.

Speaker 1 You know, like I had a buddy who served in Afghanistan many, many tours and he told me some horror stories this past weekend horror stories

Speaker 1 men raping men the amount of men he saw raping men there's this guy that was like this mentally handicapped guy that worked in his kitchen and they would all rape him they would line up and rape this guy why because they just are used to doing that and they rape boys he said he these guys were parading their boys like they had a harem of young boys and they would parade them out the more boys you had the like the cooler you look to everybody else It's so common, he said.

Speaker 1 And they don't know what they're saying.

Speaker 1 It's like a tough guy thing? I don't know how they fucking wrap their head around it. So a lot of it, a lot of it is this.
So you're separated. In those very strict societies, you are separated.

Speaker 1 Boys and girls are separated completely. And so when you start getting sexual, okay, and you have older boys with younger boys, and they're never around women.

Speaker 1 What happens is the younger boys end up getting fucked. And by the way, I must remind everybody, it ain't just in the Arab world.
It's also in the upper echelon of British boarding schools.

Speaker 1 They all get fucked when they're younger.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's fucking rampant. What about those American charter schools?

Speaker 1 I went to one of those. What about the ones you want? Guys, it's a blur.
It's a fucking blur, and I'm not going to answer a bunch of questions. This is not a court of law, and I'm a straight man.

Speaker 1 You have a bunch of 17-year-olds with no girls around. That's what happens, bro.
All of a sudden, you got no hair on your face. My dick is hard.
What's going to happen?

Speaker 1 But in Afghanistan, the stories my friend told me were fucking bad. So they just go around fucking dudes? He said it's horrible.
He said it's horrible. He says, you see it all the time.

Speaker 1 Guys getting gang raped, guys lined up. You know that guy that became the American Taliban? You know that guy that went over there? He said that guy got raped about a thousand times.

Speaker 1 So they just raped. That guy was in prison for four years over there.
He was a prisoner, and they just raped him constantly.

Speaker 1 Constantly raped. Jesus.
Yeah. This is what he said.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 If you're the Taliban guy and you listen to this, where's Titty's Lube when he needs to be? Titties all what? I didn't even say your name. But, you know.
Got to have lube.

Speaker 1 Apparently, that is just a part of that culture.

Speaker 1 And they don't think it's gay. They think it's like a dominant thing?

Speaker 1 It's only gay if you're smiling. I don't get it.
Or looking smelling. It's only me if you're wearing a rainbow.
If you're frowning the whole time.

Speaker 1 If you're like, this is terrible. This is fucking.

Speaker 1 I'm not gay. You have to say I'm not gay.
This is terrible. I'm nutting your ass.
I'm not terrible.

Speaker 1 It's just maintenance. It's just maintenance.
It's just maintenance. But imagine if they're doing that to the boys and the dudes out there.
What are they doing to the women?

Speaker 1 Ignoring them. The thing is,

Speaker 1 this one woman got raped and they blamed her for being a slut and they stoned her to death. Oh, wow.
She got raped by a guy. This is dark.
Yeah, these are ancient, ancient cultures.

Speaker 1 This is what it is. It's like if you went back 3,000, 4,000 years ago, that's how everybody behaved.
Like, we're just so accustomed to things like consent.

Speaker 1 We're so accustomed to things like the idea that rape is bad. Yeah, we're so accustomed.
But if you go to those ancient, ancient ancient cultures that don't have any influence, the modern world,

Speaker 1 even cavemen, they had the fucking

Speaker 1 wars. They had clubs.

Speaker 1 Clubs, and they would drag girls by the way. They were cartoons joking around about that.
Yeah, remember? Rape was a thing of all wars, had mass rape. Oh, horrible.
You ever read The Rape of Nan King?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's a book? Oh, fuck. Don't read it.
Irish Chang, don't read it. With the Japanese kids to China.
She killed herself.

Speaker 1 The author killed herself. Why?

Speaker 1 Because when you go down that,

Speaker 1 when you, and I went down, and she was a crazy woman. When you go down that rabbit hole, no, she was a Chinese woman who wrote it.
She researched it. I've gone down that rabbit hole.
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 Well, just give me a dip, dip my hand.

Speaker 1 They'd take their samurai swords and cut holes in babies and fuck

Speaker 1 in front of the parents. I'm good.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 Hey, check, please. All right.
Yeah, enough.

Speaker 1 It was the savagery that was so bad that even

Speaker 1 the Japanese commanders, when the reports came back, they were like, hey, we got to do something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but here's the thing, man. This is like humans.
Because if you go back to the reports, humans, right?

Speaker 1 The reports of religious people that traveled with Columbus and the horrific things Columbus's men did to the Native Americans they found. They were raping the nations.

Speaker 1 Some of these people, no, worse than that, some of these people had gold, so they found out they had gold. They told them they didn't bring back their weight in gold, they would cut their arms off.

Speaker 1 That's right. So they'd cut their arms off in front of everybody else.
Everybody else would scramble to get gold.

Speaker 1 To force them to go do this, they would grab their babies and dash their brains out on the rocks in front of the parents.

Speaker 1 The Belgians did the same thing in the Congo. The Congo celebrating the government.

Speaker 1 King Leopold's men did the same shit in the Congo. With the rubber trees.
What's wrong with people? What the fuck is that? They would cut your children's feet off and make you stick.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with them? When you get awful, awful people in power with no one to check them and they're in a war and they've seen a bunch of shit already, they've seen horrific things.

Speaker 1 It's like the cartels. I think they're sadistic.

Speaker 1 They don't value life. I think sadists

Speaker 1 come out of the woodwork in chaos, and it's their opportunity to do the things they've been dreaming about their whole life. There are artists of pain out there.

Speaker 1 Artists of pain, which is why you should always thank the Lord that the founding fathers solved the political problem. Where what is that? Checks and balances.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's going to bring it back to some CIA shit.

Speaker 1 Power doesn't reside in one group's hands. And Brian's like, and this is why we should get boosters.
And this is why

Speaker 1 we need that. Harris Waltz, guys, we need that app to track you.
It's really important. That's right.
That way you can vote. So

Speaker 1 here's my quantum computer. That Waltz guy's the best.
Dude, I'm a knucklehead. Sometimes I'm a knucklehead.
Dude, he lied about

Speaker 1 a knife. I thought he was going to hug J.D.
Vance in that debate. J.D.
Vance ate his fucking break. Oh, dude, J.D.
Vance is a beast. But it's fascinating reading on X.

Speaker 1 I follow a bunch of people on X that are both

Speaker 1 hardcore liberals and hardcore conservatives. That's a good idea.
And the hardcore liberals had the craziest way of gaslighting that.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Like, they were saying that he did great and that

Speaker 1 he made all the right points and he won the debate hands down. yes i saw that too but it's people saying that openly online to let everybody know what team they're on that's what it is

Speaker 1 oh it's a bunch of people that are they're on this one team and they're terrified and they're their enemy is the right and no matter what they gaslight and bullshit and pretend that candidates who are horrible horrible candidates and any other time in history If a guy lied about a service record, the guy lied about whether he was in Tiananmen Square, the guy lied about whether he was a head football coach or an assistant coach.

Speaker 1 This is too many lies, man. We're not going to believe you when it comes to foreign policy.
They ignore all of it. Yeah, that guy would be gone.

Speaker 1 Did you ever see Biden when he said he graduated at the top of his class and he was a double major? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all lies.
It was all lies. But that's on television.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the McLaughlin group, which used to be this political show on Sundays, Cokie Roberts said he's done. He'll never be in politics again.
I mean, he's done. And

Speaker 1 he also plagiarized, I think, his college apps. Well, I told you we used to have Joe Biden Knight at Stitch's Comedy Club.
No. I never told you that.
No. I've talked about it a hundred times.

Speaker 1 In 1988, when Biden ran for president, he got exposed as being a plagiarist. So he lost.
He got kicked out. And so it was so funny.

Speaker 1 It was such a national scandal that we had Joe Biden Night at Stitch's Comedy Club. We're like, you would go up and do my act.

Speaker 1 I would go up and do your act. We would all do each other's favorite jokes.
That's great. We would all do each other's favorite jokes.

Speaker 1 If you went up and did Joey's act, that would be fucking hilarious. Awesome.
That's how bad it was. That's how bad it was.
It just changed the narrative. Yeah, that's how bad it was.

Speaker 1 It just took long enough where people kind of forgot, and then they had

Speaker 1 so much control over the media that they could sneak him in first as vice president, you know, and then the vice president is, except for J.D. Vance, the vice president is always weak.

Speaker 1 It's always like a weak option. It's always like someone who doesn't outshine you.
It's like a guy who's like a nervous headliner and doesn't want to kill or middle act. It's kind of the same thing.

Speaker 1 You want someone where they, you know, Dan Quayle. Like, don't shoot me.
You don't want this guy in. You know, it's that kind of thing.
The vice president has as much power as

Speaker 1 who the fuck wanted Mike Pence to be the president other than Mike Pence. Zero people.
Right? So, you know, Trump is smart.

Speaker 1 You don't want some fucking assassin, some guy who's like way better than you. Like, Vivek is a perfect example.
Yeah, he's like, that guy's good.

Speaker 1 He's way too smart to be VP. You can't have that guy as VB.
Well, you know, Bush. Have you had him on your podcast? No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Bush purposely gave, because remember, the vice president has as much power as the president gives him and Bush deliberately gave Dick Cheney a lot of power. Oh, yeah, he wanted to go paint.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, Dick Cheney ran the whole fucking evil cabal. Yeah, yeah, it was nuts.
The whole thing's nuts.

Speaker 1 But if you go back to like Gerald Ford, like they made Richard Nixon, did Tucker Carlson told us the whole fucking story about Gerald Ford and about how Richard Nixon, who was the most popular president ever, was set up by the intelligence communities because he wanted to expose who killed JFK.

Speaker 1 And they're like, yeah, hey, buddy. Get this.
You're a crook. That's interesting.
Yeah, the whole thing was an intelligence operation. Joe Dick.
Bob Woodward, that was his first ever story.

Speaker 1 So he's covering one of the most important stories ever. And he was an intelligence agent.
Intelligence agent comes over from the Navy, I think. Was it in the Navy? Not sure.

Speaker 1 See if you can find the Tucker Carlson bit where Tucker Carlson is explaining. That was part of it as well.
But Tucker Carlson explained it on the podcast. It is.
So, why? So Nixon was was a good guy?

Speaker 1 Nixon was the most popular president by votes ever. Yeah, ever.
Yet they smeared the shit out of him. Smeared the fucking shit out of him.
He won by the largest margin of any president in U.S.

Speaker 1 history. Wow.
And then all we know is he's a crook. I'm not a crook.
That fucking crook. And because he didn't actually turn them in, right? So he had found out about it.

Speaker 1 That's why they didn't kill him.

Speaker 1 That's why they didn't kill him. They just got rid of him.
And then Gerald Ford, who was also on the Warren Commission. They tried to kill Ford twice.

Speaker 1 They had two women. Nixon.
You know know that Ford had two assassination attempts by women? One from the Weathermen, I think, and one from the Madison clan. You know that? Do you know that?

Speaker 1 That makes sense. Well, 14 days apart.
Jesus. 14 days apart.
Two women tried to kill Ford, but I think they were like, here's a gun. And they're like,

Speaker 1 Joe, did you ask Trump about the assassination? Like, there's nothing on it? Yes.

Speaker 1 It's hard to corral him. Like I said, he's like very slippery.

Speaker 1 I don't even mean that in a bad way. I mean that he just like he talks.
The guy's a gifted talker. He can just talk.
You never have to worry about him running out of things to say.

Speaker 1 And sometimes he talks himself into corners, but he gets out of it, you know. But it's just like he freeballs.
That's what he does.

Speaker 1 And so when I was talking to him about the assassin, he was just joking around.

Speaker 1 We started talking about the UFC because I wanted to see the scar on his ear. He doesn't have a little mark on his ear.
Yeah. He did have a mark? Yeah, he does have a little.
It's a shot.

Speaker 1 It's a small mark on his ear. But your ear is filled with blood vessels.
That's why it bleeds so much. It heals quick.

Speaker 1 So, you know, he was just talking about Bo Nickel and cauliflower ear. The next thing he wanted to talk about, who's the best ever?

Speaker 1 He doesn't want to talk about it. He's a real, well, he did a little bit, but he said it was surreal when he won the presidency.
It wasn't surreal when he got shot. I thought that was fascinating.

Speaker 1 Wow. He said being in the White House was surreal.
He goes, walk into Lincoln's bedroom. He goes, it was very surreal.

Speaker 1 But when he actually got into the White House, he said it just didn't make any sense. It was very, very surreal.
He said getting shot did not seem surreal. He goes, he was on the ground.

Speaker 1 He knew who he was.

Speaker 1 They thought he was shot all over the place because of the blood, because it was, you know, the fog of confusion, and there's blood on his face, and nobody knew where he had been hit.

Speaker 1 And and they got him out of there but when he stands up and says fight fight fight

Speaker 1 that is one of the most the most american things of all time ever of all time ever of all time you can't fake that that guy got shot he didn't know if people were still out there shooting nobody knew what the fuck was going on and that guy stood up and said fight fight fight and he got out of there what do you want to ask him on

Speaker 1 i want to talk to her like a human being I would say, what is the experience like of being the vice president? You never had any kind of national exposure at this level? Like, Like, what is the

Speaker 1 pressure of that like? Like, what's it like when you get in there, when you want to do things and you can't make them happen?

Speaker 1 Like, what do you think you can do differently as a president versus what you've been doing as a vice president?

Speaker 1 Is it frustrating to not be able to do the things you want to do? What do you think you could do to fix certain things that the world thinks are a real problem in this country? Just give people...

Speaker 1 Give her some time. I might not agree with her.
I don't know. Let her talk.
Well, she was a DA. She had a big girl job.
It's like, it's not like... She had a real job.
I like how you say big girl job.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Sexist piece of shit. She's a big piece of shit.
It's not a big job. It's just a big job.
It's a good job. It's a big boy, big girl job.
It's a real job.

Speaker 1 But you know what I'm saying? Like, being a DA is a real job. It's a good job.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm so surprised that she doesn't have more time to do it. Dude,

Speaker 1 it's a different skill talking in front of an audience when people hate you. Yeah.
Okay. There's a whole thing going on where the amount of influence, no, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 The amount of people that don't think she should be there, she's never won the primary. That's got to be in your head.
1% of the primary shit. She got put in there, you know, it was kind of a coup.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jim Gaffigate even made that joke at the, what is it, Al Smith there? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a coup. And they're constantly telling her not to cackle, right? And then when she does, you know, in her head, she's thinking, fuck.

Speaker 1 I'm like, and everyone's on the side goes. She's like, fuck you.
Everybody on the site goes, shut the fuck. It's a terrible way to find out who a person is.
It's a terrible way.

Speaker 1 Debates are a terrible way.

Speaker 1 Talking publicly when you're reading off a teleprompter is a terrible way. The pressure, the amount of people that are fucking.

Speaker 1 Look, I've been a host on a show before, and one of the things that happens is you get all these executives in your ear, and they're all telling you, do this, do that, don't do this, don't do that.

Speaker 1 And it starts to fuck with your head. Yes.
It fucks with your head. So you don't just talk to her.
You just want to have a conversation. A conversation?

Speaker 1 Not fucking current.

Speaker 1 They're probably telling her. They're probably telling her all kinds of shit.
You better, you better keep that. It can be shit.
It can be a lot of fun. So she's going, here's the the deal, right?

Speaker 1 She's going from campaign stop to campaign stop to campaign stop. How much room is in there for reading? How much room is in there for learning about these policies? How much sleeping?

Speaker 1 You're not sleeping. You're tired all the fucking time.
How much, there's constant pressure. You're worried about fucking up.
So once you fuck up a couple of times, it's like bombing on stage.

Speaker 1 And you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 Somebody said running for president is like going through 10,000 car washes. It's just constant.
That's a good way of putting it. It's constant.
And it's

Speaker 1 exhausted.

Speaker 1 You got to do the same speech over and over. You've got to be careful about what you say.
That's what's crazy. Doesn't she still have to work? Huh? Doesn't she still have to work?

Speaker 1 No, no one's running the country.

Speaker 1 The country's on autopilot like a Tesla. Just cruising down the highway with the photos.
Things crash all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Harry Lay. Did she go down to the border when he made her the Border Czar and then we didn't hear from her? Bro, she was never the Border Czar.
Don't you watch MSNBC, piece of shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy? There's so many videos of them calling her the Border Czar. They do her such a disservice because the mainstream media couldn't be more on her side.

Speaker 1 And they blatantly gaslight us and we're all like hey they still haven't caught up to the internet they don't they don't understand what how is that possible because they're delusional because they've had the same they've had so much power for so long they're they're like a movie star or something but they're also like everybody's been kissing their ass for so long that they're delusional they also went to the same college to study the same shit they dress the same they're watching the same teddy behavior

Speaker 1 when like Kamala says whatever she says, like when she brings up like shit that's been debunked, like Charlotte and all that shit.

Speaker 1 I think, of course, they know the people that have half a brain know that it's full of shit, but they're not worried.

Speaker 1 No, they're not worried about it. It's just for the dumbass.
You know, keep the people that are in the trance, keep them in the trance. Don't worry about it.
I'm blocking it.

Speaker 1 Don't let Eddie go too crazy.

Speaker 1 What do you think of this?

Speaker 1 I think if Kamala Harris came on with Joe and actually spoke from her heart and just talked about what she believes and even said, I don't know, I bet you that would, I think she, if she doesn't do that 100%, she's gonna.

Speaker 1 I mean, the only chance is that. I think that's impossible.
I don't think she's capable of it. I don't think she's capable of it.
No, no, no. And that's what I'm either preventing her from going on.

Speaker 1 When you're so deep in some shit, there's no way to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 Because if you're honest, you're going to be talking about shit that's going to bury herself. Her margin of error right now is so small.

Speaker 1 If she comes on here and gets exposed even more, this is the biggest platform. It's already over.
It's just

Speaker 1 worse.

Speaker 1 If she goes like pure honesty, she buries herself. So she has has no choice but to keep doing what she's doing

Speaker 1 and keep like fucking wicked. Not answering questions.
Come on and talk about it. Just fucking.
But how about, come on and talk about what you want to do differently. No, no, no, no.
Deep state.

Speaker 1 She said nothing. Deep state.
She said nothing.

Speaker 1 The deep state wants chaos. They want civil war.
They want nuclear war. And that's what you're doing.

Speaker 1 They want World War III because that's the only thing that's going to keep them out of Guantanamo Bay.

Speaker 1 That's what it is. And we're headed to the title.

Speaker 1 When you're going to Guantanamo Bay, you want civil war.

Speaker 1 You would rather live in a mad max society than go to Guantanamo for treason. Why do you think Trump is going to clean house?

Speaker 1 He won't.

Speaker 1 A lot of motherfuckers are

Speaker 1 doing shit that's against the Constitution. And that's treasonous.
And I think that's what this is all about. I think it's just, there's just two sides.
It's not Republican or Democrat.

Speaker 1 It's good and evil. There's people that want good shit to happen, and there's people that want evil shit shit to happen.
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 And when you're on the evil side, I always say that the goal of this republic is what? Individual liberty. We have to preserve individual liberty.
Of course. That's the thing.
Common sense.

Speaker 1 But when you're

Speaker 1 a fucking criminal. He's back, guys.
He's back. I'm back.
A criminal that could face charges? You don't want that shit. Yeah, you'd rather have Mad Max.
Yes.

Speaker 1 If it was between living in a Mad Max society and living in prison, what would you choose? Mad Max. Mad Max?

Speaker 1 I choose Mad Max. Bro, I go Mad Max.
I think we need a ranch and we can have a dope-ass Mad Max compound. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 How big is the ranch? Big. Dude, you go back and watch Road Warrior 2.
I watched Road Warrior 2 like two months ago and I'm like, oh my God, this is a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 It was so great in the 80s. When you look back at Road Warrior 2, the Mad Max, the first one was shit, and then the second one was supposed to be the big one.
Was the second one with Tina Turner?

Speaker 1 No, no, that's the third one. Yeah, the second one was the best one.

Speaker 1 But then you look back at it, you look back at it,

Speaker 1 and it's it's really bad. The new ones are good.
The new Mad Max is good. Oh, come on.
What the?

Speaker 1 What is it called? The Fury. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I don't, no, no, I'm not talking about that woke one.
No, I'm talking about the one with Tom Hardy. There was a woke one?

Speaker 1 I think the new one?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're all shh crap now. I don't know.
Is there a water Mad Max? I don't know. I thought Roy Warriors was a good one.
I went back and watched them. I'm like, oh my God, they all suck.

Speaker 1 They all suck.

Speaker 1 There's like a gang of fucking men.

Speaker 1 There's a gang of murderers.

Speaker 1 They're all in motorcycles and trucks.

Speaker 1 And there's a tiny little fucking oil pump in the middle of the desert, and they can't get in. They can't get in this fucking place.
They're like, oh, they got fire. They got like flamethrowers.

Speaker 1 We can't get in. I'm like, okay, when you go back at it, you pick it apart.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 It doesn't.

Speaker 1 What's the best movie you've seen in the past? That holds up. What movies hold up? Apocalypse Now holds up? Apocalypse Ready? Goodfellas holds up.
Real Sport. Not too many other ones.

Speaker 1 Fast Times of Ridge Month that holds up. Big Trouble in Little China.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to comment on that one. I don't know.
Because I haven't seen it. But not too many movies from the 80s hold up.
Like, did they? They could still. Predator, Commando.

Speaker 1 What movies from the 80s?

Speaker 1 I went back and I remember that movie Southern Comfort. Do you remember that movie, Southern Comfort? No.
It was about like

Speaker 1 Army platoon. They go out in the bayou and they have like blanks and like Hillbilly's fucking killer.

Speaker 1 I always thought that was the greatest movie ever. I went back and watched them like

Speaker 1 does it hold up? I think so. That's not possible.
Maybe. You know what's interesting about those old movies? Like, what was wrong with us back then that we thought that was good? It's all we had.

Speaker 1 We were retarded. But it's all you had.

Speaker 1 Now we're like, oh, we know the trick. This is busy.
I think we're seeing is like the evolution of society in a way, like like you can watch it through media.

Speaker 1 Like, go back and watch a James Cagney movie, yeah, and then think of how people behave today.

Speaker 1 You're watching like an evolution of the way people behave that probably is only possible when people get to watch each other like that.

Speaker 1 And even comedy, like comedy in the 80s, though, you go back and watch Eddie Murphy shit, you're like, okay, I don't know. You know what I mean? And you're like, delirious, so great.

Speaker 1 And fucking the other one, when he's in a blue suit, who's that? Raw. Raw.
Go back and watch that. Go back and watch that.

Speaker 1 To me,

Speaker 1 the only stand-up that holds up in the 80s is like Sam Kinnison. When you watch Sam Kinnison at the Roxy

Speaker 1 in Hollywood, that shit still holds up. That was fucking

Speaker 1 classic.

Speaker 1 But not much from the 80s holds up. You watch sitcoms? Sitcoms in the 80s?

Speaker 1 Total bullshit.

Speaker 1 The internet has pulled the curtain back in a lot of ways. Like, the magic trick doesn't work anymore.
Well, it's not just that. It's like humans have evolved culturally.

Speaker 1 We've evolved the way we talk and think. That's what it is.
It's like that other way of doing things is stupid. 90s comedy holds up.
Like Martin Lawrence, You So Crazy, Chris Rock, all that shit.

Speaker 1 That shit still is powerful. The 90s, and musically, the 90s, Allison Chain, Sound Guard.

Speaker 1 That shit holds up. That still holds up.
Hot tub time machine. Those are those coming.

Speaker 1 90s shit holds up. Music and comedy.
90s, I think the 90s was probably the best decade. 80s was like the test market.
And then 90s, they perfected it. Nine inch nails, sound guard, and Allison Chain.

Speaker 1 Some cool cars. Get the fuck out of here.
The 90s, some cool

Speaker 1 cars too. And then boxing too.
Boxing in the 90s. Shit.
Bobby Jones Jr. Bodybuilding in the 90s.
Frankie Lyles, all that shit.

Speaker 1 That's when the tech industry came in.

Speaker 1 That's Apple.

Speaker 1 And then 2000 is when music started going down. Because now the internet fucked up music.
How much the world has changed just in our lifetimes? It's so nuts. It's not great.

Speaker 1 Think about

Speaker 1 changes. Do you think it's all for the positive? Like, you look at it.
It never is. It never is.
Mental health, all that shit. Yeah, there's more challenges.
There's more challenges. Less connection.

Speaker 1 There's more challenges. Suicide through the rules.
There's also way more information. Like, we have way more of an understanding.

Speaker 1 Does that information lead to knowledge, wisdom, and truth, though? You know what I mean? Or does it lead to a lot of misinformation? You get dumbasses where they can search anything.

Speaker 1 Let's ban misinformation. I don't think so.
I'm not saying that. Yeah, I don't think so.
I'm not saying that's what Tim Wall said.

Speaker 1 You can't have free speech when it involves hate speech, misinformation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can, stupid.

Speaker 1 That is actually a part of it. Yeah, I don't know if all that information leads us to any to the promised land.

Speaker 1 And also, there's no, like, back in the day, there was like straight-up movie stars and people you looked up to. Now,

Speaker 1 you turn on Instagram, you see, you know, it takes down the fourth wall. And there's no bands anymore.

Speaker 1 Do you realize, technically, on paper, the data, like bands, like bands with like four or five guys? It used to be dominating the music. There used to be like 150 bands in the top 500.

Speaker 1 Now there's like two bands. But don't you think that's no more bands anymore?

Speaker 1 Everything is

Speaker 1 single.

Speaker 1 Because there's no MTV. MTV killed that.

Speaker 1 It's easier to make one star than deal with five bands, right?

Speaker 1 It's also easier to make music. You're not interested in a body of work.
You can get by yourself. That's why I'm saying you can do it all by yourself.
No, you don't need a five guys.

Speaker 1 There's no more bands anymore. No, you know that.

Speaker 1 Like the last band was like Kings of Leon and fucking Imagine Dragons. Because nobody wants to listen to that.
There's no more bands. Nobody wants to listen to a whole album.

Speaker 1 Nobody wants to listen to a whole hour. Nobody wants to watch a whole movie.
Like we've gotten, this TikTok brain, this highlight highlight reel has fucked with our brains. It's not good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I think like for me growing up, watching movies, certain movies, they almost gave me my moral compass.

Speaker 1 They gave me like, oh, you have to work hard because, like, maybe it was a myth, but, but, like, Rocky and movies like that, I was like, if you work hard enough, you'll get your hand raised at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 That shit was like, that shit was good. Hey, Rocky III, that was a good movie.
That was a good thing. That was a good thing.
It was a good thing.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. It was a good clubber language.
Try watching it now. I know, but it was a good thing.

Speaker 1 I do watch it now.

Speaker 1 I sit my son down. I go, you're watching this shit.
And my son, my son is the kind of guy. He wants to know what happens at the end of the movie.
He goes, Daddy, tell me Rocky's going to win.

Speaker 1 Tell me he's going to win.

Speaker 1 You got to watch it. You got to watch it.
He goes, oh, I don't want to win. Tell me he's going to win.
He's like,

Speaker 1 he wants to know the ending.

Speaker 1 Rocky's a great.

Speaker 1 That holds, by the way, still holds up.

Speaker 1 Rocky IV?

Speaker 1 Are you kidding? Rocky IV.

Speaker 1 Dude, Apolly.

Speaker 1 Apollo dies in the ring, and there's no EMTs, no doctors. It's just Rocky holding the doctor.

Speaker 1 Go 911. It's like the dumbest shit.

Speaker 1 There's no EMTs.

Speaker 1 There's no EMTs.

Speaker 1 It's just Rocky holding a dead boxer.

Speaker 1 There was no doctor.

Speaker 1 It was the biggest fight in history. James Brown walked out with Apollo.

Speaker 1 across the nation. Remember that shit? He comes, it's the biggest Vegas, and they have no doctors.
No doctors.

Speaker 1 Dragos is standing there going, if he dies, he dies. You can't save anybody from Drago, bro.
There's no doctor in the world. But the thing that holds up over all this time is

Speaker 1 sports holds up. Sports really hasn't changed.
You know more about the stars, but at the end of the day, it's pretty black and white. Dude, I would purchase right now.

Speaker 1 I would put Marvin Hagler up against anyone alive today. Marvin Hagler, a young George Foreman, or a young Roberto Durant.
How would Hagler to do it against someone like Canelo Bevo.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, it would be crazy. His technique was fucking crazy.
You know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 It was unstoppable.

Speaker 1 He only had one knockdown in his career. It was bullshit.
He got knocked down by Juan Roldan, but he kind of cuffed him on the back of the neck and he slipped forward and they called it a knockdown.

Speaker 1 Argentina Juan Roldan. That's right.
Hell yeah. He was a tank.
The 90s boxing.

Speaker 1 What boxing matches in the 90s had like a little question mark about like, damn, was that rigged? There had to be rigged fucking boxing matches in the 90s there had to be

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 talking about great real things

Speaker 1 because now uh people football football being rigged now is bigger than ever because now nfl is all in with draft kings and fan duel so it's all over the internet that football is rigged right it's rigged by

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's rigged by the refs giving favorable calls. Like the Chiefs, they're good for ratings.
The Lakers, they get more calls than any other team.

Speaker 1 And everyone's analyzing all the calls now look at these calls right

Speaker 1 look at every call

Speaker 1 bigger than ever now that like it's huge it's viral that nfl is rigged by the refs well didn't some nba refs wind up going to jail yeah that's what i'm looking at one guy they found out once they born and raised in boston his whole family grew up huge boston celtics fan whenever he was the ref for the boston celtics their numbers were wild he got fired yeah

Speaker 1 hey boys my flight's in two hours oh is it really holy what time's your flight we've been here for four hours. Oh, our flight's a good thing.
We've been having fun. It's both the same.

Speaker 1 I had no fucking time. We've been having fun.
The airport's 15 minutes away. I miss this hang.
I miss this hang. We don't get it in now.
The OG hang.

Speaker 1 You know, a couple times, a couple times I was sitting here just listening to you guys fucking ramble.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no, not CIA.

Speaker 1 Nonsense. No, no.
CIA balls. I'm listening to the

Speaker 1 fucking balls. And I'm also like, damn, this is like a virtual reality 3D

Speaker 1 replay.

Speaker 1 But it's like in time. It's like it's real, but it seems like this.
We're part of a fucking fun thing. How many have we done of these? I don't know.
It has to be 100%. 500.
It has to be. No, no.

Speaker 1 How many, Jamie? 50?

Speaker 2 I think the total fight from Kansas is around 60, maybe.

Speaker 1 60? We've done 100.

Speaker 1 Yo, when someone told me, he goes, you know how many times you've been on JRE? I swear to God,

Speaker 1 I guess like

Speaker 1 15, and thinking it's a lot, 15 to 20. I'm thinking, how many times you've been on JR? I'm like,

Speaker 1 20, 15? They go, dude, 85. I'm like, what? I think Sean's the most times.
Yeah, no, he's number one. He's number one and I.
And when I heard that shit, I was like, no fucking way is it 80 times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's 100%. And it is.
Like, how is that possible? You guys are one, two, and three of the Z.

Speaker 1 I have so many, I get a kick out with Joe. I don't know if you get this.
I get so many people who call me up. They're like, bro, what's up? Good.
Dude, we got this thing. I'm like, oh, here it comes.

Speaker 1 He goes, it'd be a great thing for Joe. And I'm like, and you could make money too.
I'm like, yeah,

Speaker 1 every time he's like, oh, hey, just watch this, watch this. If I get pitched, I go like this.
I go, I go, okay, okay, this, I got to call him right now. I'm calling him right now.

Speaker 1 I've been calling him right now. I got to go.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking to me.

Speaker 1 I'll call you right back. I got to call him right now.
Brian Callan never changes his cell phone. He's had that same cell phone since the beginning of time.
You know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 As many people that try to call

Speaker 1 me to get to you, there's all the people that I know people are contacting them to get a hold of me to get a hold of these things. Oh, Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Right? You know what I'm talking about? It's crazy. It's fucking weird.
It's crazy. Bro, it's crazy for me, too.
Because they know if it gets on JRE, you're going to be a millionaire, right?

Speaker 1 That's what basically that's what they think. Everyone thinks, like, if I could just get this product.
But what's wild is that we've all been on there so many fucking times.

Speaker 1 I don't even think about it. But you've, this never, it's never been different.
No. Like, like, right when we sit down, I've never nerved it.
It's basically the same.

Speaker 1 It's always talking about the shit. It's just the same.
Yeah, like the same shit right here. It's always fun.
It's like. We're not trying to sell anything.
Yeah, but we're having a good time.

Speaker 1 We've been friends for the beginning of time. I've been friends for you for like almost 30 years, bro.

Speaker 1 I met you in 98. Crazy though.

Speaker 1 You and I met in 1996, bro. 96.
We're closer to 30 years. 30 years ago.
That's what I said on your burgers. I was like, you and I have known each other for a fucking year.
And here we were.

Speaker 1 We're talking mad shit. And Trump, you know, the crazy thing is, Tom,

Speaker 1 Sam Tripoli was on before Trump, and then I'm after

Speaker 1 Trump on. You're sitting in the Trump seat.
You're the first guy to sit in that seat since Trump. Oh, really? Yeah, you you got Trump in there.
He's like, right, this is funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they sat right there. Plug for Sam Tripoli.
If you're ever, if you ever see him in your fucking town, go see that. He has a special house.
He's a real comic. What's his special called?

Speaker 1 Yeah, check out Sam Triply Speaker. I love that dude.
I've been friends with Sam for legitimate

Speaker 1 people. I think I met him in 98.
Sam already. Sam Tripoli, I've said this many times, is one of the greatest people on

Speaker 1 the ship. I love this guy.
He's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 All he does is try to help. He's called quiet.

Speaker 1 Watch Sam Tripoli. Quiet.
That's

Speaker 1 i went to it i watched it i was dying i watched

Speaker 1 special quiet he's so silly

Speaker 1 and you know what i'm opening for him uh february 6th 7th and 8th uh columbus oh pottsville pennsylvania potts town pennsylvania

Speaker 1 and then uh morristown jersey at his club the dojo the dojo of comedy the dojo we're doing that does he still have the dojo in la as well i didn't close that

Speaker 1 the dojo of comedy in Morristown, New Jersey. Dude, that place rocks.
He should have. He has opened up a dojo.
That place rocks, dude. You got to go now.
Seriously.

Speaker 1 He should rock. Yeah, there's room for more clubs in Austin.
We're talking about opening up another one in Austin. Jesus Christ.
Like a little baby world. We're so jammed up.
Hard to compete.

Speaker 1 You guys are just always so loud. I don't know that kids.
He just moved here. He was

Speaker 1 in California. He was fucking.
That motherfucker got up and did like 10 minutes. I was howling.
He came off. I was like, bro, you're the fucking real deal.
He's very funny. Canadian cat? Yeah, great.

Speaker 1 Very, very, very funny. And a good dude.
Oh, yeah. He's funny.

Speaker 1 Has your boy Nick been at the mother show? He's so funny.

Speaker 1 Nick's fucking a monster, too.

Speaker 1 You'd like him. Yeah, nice monster.
Yeah, good guy. He's like a real nice guy.
Funny motherfucker funny. There's so many comics here now that it's almost too many, and like we need more stage time.

Speaker 1 We were talking about doing it. Red Band's Club must be pumped.
It's killing it. Red Band's Club is just killing it.
Good for the Red Bands. Sunset Strip.
Yeah. It's only two.

Speaker 1 How many doors down is it from us?

Speaker 1 Five doors down.

Speaker 1 Five doors down.

Speaker 1 Walk five doors down. It's Red Band Club.
And it's a nice big club, hundreds of people.

Speaker 1 You're sitting here promoting special beautiful special shit, right? I do, bitch. I set it up.
Yes.

Speaker 1 How do you

Speaker 1 hear all that place? Don't you think I know?

Speaker 1 It's like when he asked you,

Speaker 1 you're at the sphere. I'm like, bitch, I work there.
Hey, I was at the sphere. You got to see it, Joe.
I'm psyched. What?

Speaker 1 Are you going to come down for my special? Nah. I'll be there.
When is it?

Speaker 1 January.

Speaker 1 I'm there at January 11th, 12, and 13. What are you going to name it? False Gods? Okay.
Oh, that's a good name. Okay.
False Gods. That's a good name.
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 You're going to have a great fucking time. That club is so fun.
I can't wait. The club is so, it's just set up the right way.
It's all set up for us.

Speaker 1 It's like there's no consideration of anything other than what's best for the show.

Speaker 1 Everything was done with what's best for the show. Not to make more money.
What's best for the comics? What's best for the show? Let's make it the most fun place ever. Let's make it legendary.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm in. But I want to do another one.
I want to do another one. Yeah, I want to do one somewhere else.

Speaker 1 I think once we develop a big enough group of comics, and we're developing a lot of comedians out of there, too, because

Speaker 1 we have open mic night two nights a week, and we have a lot of showcase spots. There's a lot of spots where these really talented young people who move here get to go up.

Speaker 1 And then they go on the road with like Duncan or Brian Simpson or Tony. He'll take them on the road.
And it's like, it's a real developmental cycle.

Speaker 1 And all the people that work there as door people, they all audition with their act. Wow, that's how they get the job.
Wow, so they're all talented comedians.

Speaker 1 Is that how they did the comedy store, too? Yeah, that's the same vibe.

Speaker 1 Are you gonna open it in Austin or something? But different, because the comedy store, you could just join. You could be terrible.
Hey, how about

Speaker 1 similar? I think Austin first. I think we'll open up another one in Austin, maybe on the other side of Austin.
Wow. And then we'll open up in another city.
I think

Speaker 1 maybe since Orange County, California is so red, you know, and the thing is

Speaker 1 you have to be a lot of talent there. So

Speaker 1 the way that this club worked, because everybody moved here, because everything else was shut down. But they moved here.
They moved here. So if you find another space.

Speaker 1 So find a spot where there's already exists. And now you have to give them a year to move there.
Well, not just that. You want to find a spot where comic.
Yeah, East Coast. Okay.
In New York.

Speaker 1 You want to go where comics already exist, but make it a super favorable environment. So they make more money there.

Speaker 1 It's easier. You set the club up so the comics don't get hassled.
They have a place to hang out in the green room and talk to each other and talk shit.

Speaker 1 And then you make it so it's just set up for the betterment of comedy. That's it.

Speaker 1 And you don't have to like, don't try. You got to do it where you're not trying to make money.
You got to do it where you're just trying to not lose money and put together a club. That's it.

Speaker 1 And if you do it that way, you could do it. You could do it.
I've always done though, Jones.

Speaker 1 But it only happened out of a lucky thing. The lucky thing was COVID.
Newsome. Yeah.
You should give him 10%.

Speaker 1 Well, it's not just Newsome, it was New York, too, because a lot of guys came from New York because they couldn't handle it anymore. Because New York was crazy.
You needed a vax car to get on stage.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of bullshit. And so they came too during the whole nonsense of it when you could do stand-up here indoors.

Speaker 1 And so when we were doing the Vulcan, no one was doing stand-up indoors anywhere. And we were doing it every night.
We were just, that place was hopping.

Speaker 1 Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Monday night, Kill Tony. It was hopping.
Weekends. Guys would fly in.
Vulcan's still happening? Yeah, Vulcan's great.

Speaker 1 Vulcan's right down. We have so many clubs just on that street.
Besides the mothership, there's Vulcan right over there. There's the Creek in the Cave, which is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 There's, There's what is that, Black Rabbit?

Speaker 1 Is that what it's called?

Speaker 1 That's a pub, though. Right, but they have stage.
Yeah, Cave City, too, but it's a way out. Cities on the other side of town.

Speaker 1 But then you have Sunset, which is Red Band's Club, which is only five doors down from mine. Like, there's a lot of clubs just right there.
That's great.

Speaker 1 And so there's a lot of stage time, but there's so many comedians, and they're just moving here all the time. And I'm always trying to recruit people, and I'm always trying to get people to move here.

Speaker 1 And I feel like as people move here and we need more spots, we'll just expand. Love it.
The whole idea is just that

Speaker 1 this fucking thing should not be run by anyone other than comics. Yeah, agree.

Speaker 1 We were influenced for so long by Hollywood. They dangle that carrot of TV shows and talk shows over everybody's head, and everybody changed their act, and everybody just

Speaker 1 became what they thought Hollywood wanted them to be so they could be in a movie.

Speaker 1 The whole thing was to get a sitcom and stop panda.

Speaker 1 How many times I told that story?

Speaker 1 And even on your podcast, where when we first started hanging out, like in 98, and I i was like damn you were it was before news uh before uh fear factor after news radio and i remember like damn i'm hanging out with an actor we're gonna go to these fucking hollywood parties and i'd say joe when are we going to these hollies parties and you were like fuck those hollywood and i'm like what he goes dude they're fucking piece of shit people you don't want to go to these fucking parties and i'm like god damn it i wanted to go to the party i used to argue with him remember yeah i wanted to go to the party he never wanted to go and i used to get in arguments like he'd be like why are you in this acting guy's house because you got a fucking study acting we get We get in arguments where our girls at the time were like, what the fuck's going on?

Speaker 1 People in the other tables were like, I was like, fucking, you got to study. He's like, whatever, dude.
Do stand up, you bitch.

Speaker 1 Well, I knew that you were really funny on stage, and I knew that you were neglecting it because you were trying so hard to get TV shows. I was like, dude, fuck.

Speaker 1 You're worshiping false gods. I do.
I was worshiping false gods. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You were always comedy first. I was.
TV shows second. Even, wow, Fear Fact.
Then you got Fear Factor. I remember we were going to do a private lesson.

Speaker 1 I was a purple bell, and you were a blue belt, and you wanted to learn some Twister shit. And I showed you like crotch ripper stuff, and you say, yo,

Speaker 1 I can't train this Tuesday or whatever. I got at this fucking crazy audition with this show.
They're going to sick dogs on people.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, okay, and then, and then we started training again. Weeks went by, and you go, remember that fucking stupid show that

Speaker 1 they fucking want me, dog? And I'm like, oh, shit. And that was the beginning of your factory.
I came into the audition that Fear Factor banged up on edibles. Yeah, really?

Speaker 1 He did every show.

Speaker 1 Dude, those producers, I was on the set. He would bring up the producers and the directors.
They just let Joe do whatever he wanted to do. They go, you had lollipops.

Speaker 1 Remember back before there was dispensaries. This is before we was still totally illegal, but there was one dispensary.
No, you can get medical

Speaker 1 medical weed was legal, and I have headaches. And remember that place in England? And remember that place in England? There was one fucking

Speaker 1 weed wellness center. Yeah, dude.
We went to one of the weeks. Remember when we stopped going there because the guy got shot? I forgot he got shot.
That guy got shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the guy that used to take care of us there because they used to do it only cash because you couldn't use credit cards back then. I was with you.
They shot that dude.

Speaker 1 He had a lollipop during Fear Factor. Oh, yeah.
Every shot. Because I did the first four episodes sober and it was so boring.

Speaker 1 And then I started doing it on Edibles. I'm like, this is all joy.

Speaker 1 Really? This show's so fun. And you would think you would stop doing comedy because

Speaker 1 most comedians, once they get into TV, they fuck

Speaker 1 fuck comedy

Speaker 1 we got harder with comedy yeah you and I were in New York and I know that you and I were in New York and I remember the first time I realized you were getting famous I don't know if you remember this probably not but we were you had two you I think you had done fear factor it was after the first season and we're walking and a cop two cops walk by and the cop's eyes are this big and he goes Joe Rogan and you were like hey how you doing it was like and I was like dude fucking this is when it starts.

Speaker 1 It was the first time we were in this sewer.

Speaker 1 What it really was was after the first season, it was hot, but when after the first season, you did the Super Bowl halftime with Victoria's Secrets lingerie show, Fear Factor style, and we watched it at your house.

Speaker 1 Like, yo. These Playboy Playmates.
Whatever. Something like that.
Yeah, Playboy Playmate halftime Super Bowl. So he never watched Super Bowl in his life, but now he's watching the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It was the Rams were in it, I think. And then after the Super Bowl, it was like fine.
It was after like one season.

Speaker 1 Nobody went up to him, but we went to Baja Fresh. I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 We went to Baja Fresh right after the Super Bowl. And when we parked and we started walking, two motherfuckers, one dude, hey, Joe, in the car, and we're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 And then we walked like 15 more yards and another dude, hey, Joe, right?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, and we looked at each other like, oh, shit, things are going to change now.

Speaker 1 This is like pre-internet, too.

Speaker 1 Fame was still weird. You didn't know if it was real.

Speaker 1 It was weird.

Speaker 1 Fresh was like the change. You knew, right? It was weird.

Speaker 1 You didn't know you were famous. You weren't sure.

Speaker 1 You kind of knew that the TV show was successful, but you didn't know what was happening. But nobody was coming up to you.
Like, nobody came up to you for

Speaker 1 news radio or anything. No, no, no.
I never got recognized. No.

Speaker 1 Goldberg seven years or whatever the fucking school.

Speaker 1 You don't sell tickets that way. You sell tickets off a podcast.
You sell tickets off of, you know, I sold tickets at some clubs, but there were clubs that I was already going to.

Speaker 1 You know, I already built a market in like Houston and Phoenix and different places where I did stand up all the time.

Speaker 1 Don't you think fame's tougher on your kiddos?

Speaker 1 It sucks for the kiddos. You keep them away from it.
Yeah, you don't want to expose them to the family. Sometimes bring them out and show them

Speaker 1 to the world. Don't post pictures off.
Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No way.
But a kid being famous is the worst.

Speaker 1 Has it worked out for anybody? I've never seen one kid that became famous as a child and is cool and normal as an adult. And then he's a little scrambling.

Speaker 1 We always used to think, like, we knew that kids,

Speaker 1 like, famous kids in movies and TV shows, they always ended up fucked up and on drugs. We always knew that, like, oh, it's just too much fame.
But now we know what the, why they're fucked up.

Speaker 1 Now we know why they're fucked up. How many of those child shows

Speaker 1 pedophiles? Do you know that Nickelodeon? How would you die?

Speaker 1 You know, one of the ways that Nickelodeon weirdo got busted? He had people over his house and he had a bunch of artwork from John Wayne Gacy. And was like showing it off.

Speaker 1 And someone on the staff was like, hey, dude, that's fucking weird. What? Yep.
And that's when they started becoming privy to it. What? You got a bunch of artwork from Jesus.
You're sure about that?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, look at me.
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 That's like that meme. Are you sure about that?

Speaker 1 The CIA disagrees.

Speaker 1 I got a text on my phone that says you're lying.

Speaker 1 No, that's real. I've got a direct connection to the white.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't like in his basement. It was like a centerpiece of like one of the clown drawings.
Oh, you see, we got that photo of Bill Clinton up now? Oh, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 The painting was the same one from FC's house. Yeah, Lill Clinton.

Speaker 1 That's new. Yeah, we got that.
That's the one in the dress and the blue dress. Yeah, we got that.
You'd be sick if you had the real one.

Speaker 1 Isn't it crazy that he turned on Kamala?

Speaker 1 Isn't it crazy that he turned on Kamala? Who? Biden?

Speaker 1 Bill Clinton?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I mean, Biden.
He's talking about vetting.

Speaker 1 If we would have vetted them,

Speaker 1 there wouldn't have been any murders. Like, whoa, what is that about? That is true.

Speaker 1 Bro, Bill Clinton during the debates when he won, you go back and watch that. That was a very good person.
He was savage. Very good.
He was savage. I would have voted for it.
He's so smart.

Speaker 1 He made so much. And by the way, he killed it as a president.
The economy was booming.

Speaker 1 Considered a formidable intellect.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, another one here

Speaker 1 and all the drug trade. That was about him.

Speaker 1 So yeah, we're going to go to the seals. I'll make the economy okay.
Look at my case. Look at my children.
Don't you think

Speaker 1 of rank?

Speaker 1 But hold on. Don't you think that? Don't you think that all of those guys, when they get to that point, they're compromised? Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1 He was the only way way he was the governor of arkansas when i was all that shit was but especially before that's why he became president yes yes because especially before the internet man you had a compromise you had to be dirty for you to be playing the game i think some i think some get involved to make a difference yeah i think some of them get involved to make a difference and then you get to a certain level where you have to be compromised but you can't play the rest of the game but imagine you won't let you in but eddie hold on yeah imagine you're playing the game and you don't even know the internet is a possibility so you think you're always going to be running things like this and then you know like one of the questions that I asked Trump, the big one, was about the JFK files.

Speaker 1 So I was like, why didn't you release them? Because I told him you had said publicly that if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either.

Speaker 1 And so one of the things he was talking about was some of those people are still alive. And I said, well, what you're implying by some of those people that are still alive, you mean in the government?

Speaker 1 He essentially said yes. And I said, so what you're implying is they would be implicated in the murder.
of JFK. So the government is implicated in the murder of JFK.

Speaker 1 Some people that were involved, an intelligence agency or something, they may be still alive, were implicated in the murder of JFK. He said he's all going to get it out once he gets into office.

Speaker 1 So there'll be a cleansing.

Speaker 1 That's how he described it. That's another reason they don't want him.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 That's definitely. There's a huge reason they don't want him running out of time.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of shit, man.

Speaker 1 Just the stuff they did with the money.

Speaker 1 Just the stuff they did with the 51 intelligence, former intelligence agents that signed off and said the Hunter Biden laptop ad was

Speaker 1 the laptop was disinformation from Russia. Just that alone.
Just that alone. And so that alone should take no change in whole.

Speaker 1 I always go to Occam's razor like, dumb and lazy. Don't you do this, you son of a bitch.
Dumb and lazy. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I always go and laugh.
He just says all in copper.

Speaker 1 What about JFK people? They're always out of the way. Bro, you better get on that flight before your handler starts calling you.

Speaker 1 He's texting me right now. He's texting me right now, bro.
He's like, listen, Brian, hold the line. There's a hold of the line.
Hold the fucking line. Guys, vaccines are real.

Speaker 1 JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. That's what I'm getting.
I'm just reading. I'm just reading the Delinx Press before you.
Go shoot the Red Messenger.

Speaker 1 And come see me in Buffalo at Helium, November 7, 8th, and 9. Do you have a website, Brian Callan? BrianCallen.com.
Okay. All my shit.
Great shob. What's up with your shows?

Speaker 1 Tell everybody about your truck show. Yeah, Drive Fast All Gas.
The second giveaway will be at SEMA. The giveaway goes live at SEMA.
It starts November 1st.

Speaker 1 It's a Dark Horse Mustang with over 850 horsepower. Oh, shit.
Yep. Rouse Supercharger Launch Edition, full carbon fiber, GTD, carbon fiber all over.
GTD. Yeah, it's dope.
Oh, that guy does great shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. GCD is my favorite.
You don't even know. But November 1st, if you go sign up at drivefastallgas.com right now, you get 500 extra.

Speaker 1 How come there's only two guys here that really give a fuck about cars? Gay.

Speaker 1 I don't have enough money. I don't have enough money.

Speaker 1 I got a tundra. I got a 2015 Tundra.

Speaker 1 Those motherfuckers go a million miles.

Speaker 1 He'll sign up. Listen, they're the best.

Speaker 1 Toyota trucks.

Speaker 1 Toyota trucks are the fucking best. Now what? I love Toyota trucks.

Speaker 1 If they said you have one car that's not going to get fucked with, I'd get a Toyota truck. That fucking sounds.
Dodge Carter or Power Stroke. Those are good forever.
Those are good, too.

Speaker 1 I'm swapping the motors in my Hummers. Oh, shit.
My Hummers. Look at this.
Hummers. This is a ridiculous person.
Dude, this is ridiculous. They got an electric one.
They got an electric one now.

Speaker 1 You getting that one? You know who has that? Redband has it. Redband has the electric one.
It's the shit. It does wild.
It crap walks, goes sideways.

Speaker 1 Have you driven a real one with an LS4 engine in it?

Speaker 1 How long would those take to recharge? Like a Hummer, Electric Hummer? That's probably going to take like 17 hours. 17 hours.
It'll take a little time.

Speaker 1 All kinds of shit. But do you drive mostly your Tesla? No,

Speaker 1 I drive my Raptor a lot of Tesla. He has a Hennessy Raptor R.
I love that thing. He has my favorite car of all time, GT40.
A GT4. A GT40.
No,

Speaker 1 2005, 4GT. I almost brought that today.

Speaker 1 Whatever happened to good old-fashioned Corvettes?

Speaker 1 There's a ZR-1 coming out. The new Corvette.

Speaker 1 Just the regular Stingray is fucking incredible. They look like Lamborghinis now.
And they drive so good. Tony has one.
Fucking hypercarbon. The ZR1's going to beat most hypercars.

Speaker 1 It's going to be 1,100 horsepower.

Speaker 1 Allocated one. Oh, don't die.
Don't crash. Good chance.
I flip that. What you got going on with that? Samtripoli.com.
We're doing Tinfoil Hack Comedy, like I said earlier, Columbus in February.

Speaker 1 Sam, Potts Town. jiu-jitsu seminar.
Tell everybody about the Jijijiju. Jiu-Jitsu seminar.
Oh, I'm going to be in Richmond, Tenth.

Speaker 1 Richmond, Kentucky, 10th Planet, Richmond, and then 10th Planet, Livonia. That's in Detroit.
That's coming up in December.

Speaker 1 Look it up. Look it up.
But your resort, this whole thing. Jiu-JitsuOverdose.com in December.

Speaker 1 Check that out. That's the Coachella Jiu-Jitsu.
I'm trying to do the best shit possible. That's all I'm trying to do.
I love you guys to death. I'm looking forward to these.

Speaker 1 So much fun, brother. The best.
Brother,

Speaker 1 I love you guys.