DOJ Employee Throws Sandwich at Fed Officer, and New Info About Clinton Investigation, with Stu Burguiere and John Solomon

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Megyn Kelly is joined by John Solomon, founder of "Just The News," to discuss new documents exposing how top DOJ and FBI officials shut down probes into Hillary and Bill Clinton and Hunter Biden, what we're learning about how one top official said to "shut it down," how the same agencies later turned their focus on Trump, reports of multiple grand juries investigating alleged conspiracy involving the Clintons, Bidens, and figures in the Obama administration, the key dates in the timeline involving possible corruption, and more. Then Stu Burguiere, host of BlazeTV's Stu Does America, joins to discuss the shocking story of a DOJ employee who threw a Subway sandwich at a federal officer, the felony charges now filed, the resistance against Trump's administration from inside, Hunter Biden’s refusal to apologize to Melania Trump over his Epstein claim and dropping a f-bomb instead, the possible billion-dollar defamation lawsuit, Trump’s push to de-woke the Smithsonian museum, the backlash over attempting to end the racial focus, why the left is losing control of the historical and cultural conversation, Jussie Smollett’s latest comeback attempt through a new Netflix documentary, his renewed claim that the hate crime hoax was real, why the media is still giving him a platform, and more.

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Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.

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Hunter Biden is in a face-off with the First Lady of the United States, Melania Trump.

She is demanding that he apologize for saying that it was Jeffrey Epstein who introduced her to Donald Trump and

suggesting she's going to sue him if he doesn't back down on that claim that he made in that very public YouTube interview with the show that calls itself Channel 5, I think, or Channel 4, whatever it's channel.

And Hunter Biden's refusing.

So we could see very soon a lawsuit by Melania Trump against Hunter Biden.

We'll show you exactly what he said and then what he said in response to her legal threat.

Also, there was a big arrest in D.C.

amid President Trump's crime crackdown involving a subway sandwich.

And according to A.G.

Pambondi, the man who threw that sandwich at a cop worked at her Department of Justice.

She says he's now been fired.

We'll show you the tape and Judge Janine's comments because she's the prosecutor who's going to have to handle this in response.

And we'll get to what's going to happen to this guy who apparently worked at the Department of Justice.

This is unbelievable.

I mean, this is Pam Bondi saying this is what we're up against, trying to clean up departments like this.

Stuberger will be here in a moment to break it all down.

But we are starting today with another stunning revelation about Barack Obama's Justice Department and FBI.

Can I just tell you something?

I want you to listen to the story today.

Okay, we're going to go through this with John Sullivan.

I want you to go through the story, listening and remembering all the reporting we've done here on the show that you guys were with us for on

the IRS

and how their investigation into Hunter Biden was slow-rolled to the point that most of the statutes of limitation expired.

Remember, we found that out from those two whistleblowers.

It was, I think, two years ago.

I was down here at the Jersey Shore, and we were talking to those two whistleblowers who gave us their first interview and told us all about how the DOJ

had slow-rolled their investigation to the point where

they all expired the statutes of limitation against Hunter Biden for his tax evasion and his sketchy scheme overseas, taking all this money from burisma and Ukraine and elsewhere.

Well, guess what?

What Solomon is revealing today is the same story, different players.

He's reporting now that the FBI director Cash Patel has just uncovered a memo that appears to show top DOJ and FBI officials obstructing an investigation into allegations of corruption against Bill and Hillary Clinton's family foundation, known as the Clinton Foundation.

That back in 15 and 16,

the FBI was actually

interested in the Peter Schweitzer book, Clinton Cash, and actually said, you know what, there's something there there.

And we better start looking into it.

And had no less than three different field agents, agencies, part of the FBI, looking into it, but they got shut down by Andrew McCabe, deputy director of the FBI under Obama,

and Sally Yates, deputy AG under Loretta Lynch, Obama's top people at DOJ and FBI,

said, no,

no, it's Hillary Clinton.

We're not doing that.

We're not doing that.

Same way they said, no, no, it's Hillary Clinton.

We're not doing that when it comes to investigating or seeing through the investigation on her home brew server and the email scandal.

Remember, we've been talking about the documents that showed Loretta Lynch allegedly saying she would make sure it didn't go too far.

So Hillary Clinton twice protected, according to these documents, for her utter corruption, her criminal corruption.

That's how it looks in these papers.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump gets indicted twice,

twice, by Joe Biden's DOJ, special

counsel Jack Smith, for allegedly having classified documents at Mar-a-Lago that he as president had the right to have

and for the January 6th nonsense on the Capitol.

Okay, he gets indicted twice.

They rushed to throw the legal system at Donald Trump.

And with Hillary Clinton, time and time again, just like with Hunter Biden, those in power work together to protect their favorite Democrats.

It's disgusting.

And now we're really getting the details of a general foundational story we did know.

But as with so many of these reveals lately, we're getting names, we're getting specific titles, and we're finding out exactly who

was standing in the way of the wheels of justice turning against a Dem.

Former President Obama's Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates is even quoted in the Solomon release now as saying, shut it down.

Sally Yates is a name we've heard many times over the years.

She's a party loyalist.

She's been painted by the left as some sort of a heroine for standing up against Donald Trump.

She's a partisan hack, and I'm embarrassed.

She shares my son's name.

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Yeah, good to be with you, Megan.

You laid it out perfectly.

That's the dual system of justice we just lived under for the last 10 years.

It's shocking.

So take us through the latest reveal.

So people, I think, will become more familiar over the next few weeks as we continue to dig through what we now know and what we're about to learn, that March of 2016 is a moment of great peril for the Democratic Party.

Donald Trump essentially secured the nomination.

They have a populist that looks like the Brexit movement in America, and they're mortified.

Hillary Clinton is still trying to crank down her email scandal.

And the Justice Department now knows two things have happened simultaneously.

One, that three separate FBI offices, New York, Little Rock, and Washington Field Office, so two powerhouses and then Little Rock, have all predicated investigations looking at pay-to-play allegations against Hillary Clinton.

Some of that predication was based on Peter Schweitzer's great book, Clinton Cash.

Some of that predication was based on a couple of stories I wrote back in 2015 for the Washington Times.

And so they have a confidential human source in one of those cases.

They have multiple documents.

They have some video and audio footage.

And they believe they have a true predicated investigation looking at criminal pay-to-play.

Basically, you pay the foundation, you get something from Hillary Critton as Secretary of State.

It's a mortal threat, way more mortal than the complicated email scandal, which you can always blame on negligence.

And at the same time, that's happening, it's very important to remember, and I'm going to show people these emails soon.

These are emails that the Justice Department's had for a long time.

Hunter Biden's emails and his

records of his business partners have been subpoenaed.

And Hunter Biden and his lawyers are panicked.

They're going to discover that Hunter Biden was welching on his taxes.

He was not paying taxes on barisma, the money he had gotten in Ukraine.

So I want to set that stage because March of 16 is a moment of calamity.

March through May, there are multiple Democratic scandals that potentially put Donald Trump in a much better position to win the nomination because the Democratic Party is going to look like the party of corruption.

And it's in that moment that Sally Yates steps into the void and says, shut it down.

And think about this.

Donald Trump's on the campaign trial

chanting, lock her up.

It turns out the FBI has some evidence that might lock her up if they can get through the official prosecution.

And the answer back from Barack Obama's Justice Department is shut it down.

They form a protection racket around Hillary Clinton.

And as we know from the IRS whistleblowers, eventually a protection racket around Hunter Biden.

And then they pivot and they start to legitimize a false investigation against Donald Trump.

That is the spring and summer of 2016.

And there are just some remarkable dates that we all need to remember because they are going to be seminal to the conspiracy.

The first is January 6th.

2016, four years, or excuse me,

January 6th, 2017, four years before the January 6th 6th that Democrats like to talk about.

It's on that day that the intelligence committee assessment is released, and it's the day before when Sally Yates is in a meeting with the president and the vice president, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, concocting how they can keep pursuing

former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn when the FBI has just cleared him of any criminal wrongdoing.

It is that January 5th and 6th that create the distrust that ultimately boils over on January 6th, 2021.

And then on July 5th, 2016, the day that James Comey walks out and waves a magic wand without the legal authority to do so, and clears Hillary Clinton in the email scandal,

that same day.

Christopher Steele walks into the FBI with information that ultimately becomes the Steele dossier.

Those two dates are not just symbolic.

They are meaningful dates in the conspiracy.

And in between those two dates, the FBI is pressing to open up a very serious criminal investigation, and that's when the Obama Justice Department decides we're going to shut it down.

So this would have been James Comey at the top of that FBI, whose three field offices were looking into Hillary Clinton.

So, I mean,

he presumably knew about it, and I guess at this point, was okay with it because according to this report, he was not the one to shut it down.

It was his boss, Sally Yates, is effectively over him as the deputy attorney general.

Yeah, let's keep in mind how these two departments work.

The dirty work always falls down to the deputy, right?

You never have the attorney general put her hands on it.

You never have the FBI director, with rare exception, Comey, actually violated that role.

But that's what deputies exist for in these departments, to carry out the will of the boss and to have their fingerprints on the decision.

So it's not an accident that it's Sally Yates and

the deputy director at the time, Andy Andrew McCabe, that are doing this.

There's no chance, zero chance, that the Attorney General and FBI director don't know of something this high.

These are what are called politically sensitive investigations.

The director always gets, as does the attorney general, they get advised when there's a politically sensitive figure who's now under criminal investigation.

Now, we got to go get that evidence still.

That's part of the paper trail.

But the deputies are simply carrying out the duties, but there's very little chance that the principals don't already know.

Okay, so we don't, we're not ready to give James Comey any credit whatsoever for the three field offices digging into Hillary Clinton.

More than likely, he was in on the plan to kill it.

We don't have the evidence of it yet.

We're just supposing at this point.

But we do have the evidence that Sally Yates killed it.

And the report seems to suggest, because this is a memo, this is a memo, John, that was written by a DOJ lawyer.

And

this lawyer seems to be whistleblowing on exactly how this went down, saying like the FBI was looking into this and Sally Yates at DOJ, where this whistleblower or this lawyer works, shut it down.

Yeah, I'm not sure he's whistleblowing.

This might actually have been an exercise of CYA, right?

Covering a little bit of a tale here, because

the lawyer is a DOJ lawyer who's been detailed to the FBI.

So that happens a lot.

Agency people get moved between agencies.

So he comes from the Justice Department.

He's working for the FBI and he writes this memo down so that everybody has their story straight about why the FBI took a dive on Hillary Clinton.

And the goal here is to show, hey, the agents in the field were doing their job, but political pressure on top was coming in.

But he says in writing the memo, this is where I was trying to take it, but he says in writing the memo that they've been told to shut it down by Sally Yates, but he seems to say without explanation, like she didn't say, here's why.

Yeah, I think when we get to the bottom of this, the goal here was to say the FBI was a victim here.

The mean old Justice Justice Department kept us from doing this.

And so, when you read it, you see what needed to be chronicled, which is, you know, normally when an FBI agent has a criminal predicated investigation, you go to your local U.S.

attorney, you get a grand jury started, you get subpoenas or search warrants, and you start finding out whether a crime should be prosecuted.

What happens after the order from Sally Yates shut it down is the FBI goes and tries to get that normal cooperation that happens every day, 30, 40 times a week between FBI agents and their affiliated U.S.

Attorney's office, and they find a common refrain.

We can't help you.

You have to go alone on this.

Well, you can't go alone.

An FBI agent can't get a grand jury subpoena.

Every U.S.

attorney's office is following the direction of Sally Yates and saying, we just can't help you.

Sorry, we don't want to go there.

Not going to happen.

And then on top of that, their own boss.

Andy McCabe, the number two official, is saying, no overt action unless I approve it.

And that was very troubling to the FBI agents on the front lines.

Here's why.

Everybody knew by that time that Andy McCabe, his wife, had run for Democratic, as a Democrat for a Virginia state Senate seat and had solicited financial help from Terry McAuliffe, the Virginia governor and the longtime protege of the Clintons, the former chief fundraiser of the Clintons.

He's the guy that presided over the 1990s Asia fundraising scandal that left such a dark mark over the Clinton presidency.

So they know this guy's conflicted.

His wife is beholden to the Democrats and to somebody that Hillary Clinton relies on to raise money.

And more so at the time Andy McCabe did that, it turns out the FBI had an open investigation against Terry McAuliffe.

So this is the agents now are very suspicious.

Why is Andy McCabe allowed to ride herd on this when he has a conflict of interest?

And why is the Justice Department not helping us when we, every time we go for a grand jury, we know him to get our help.

They knew the fix was in it.

At some point, this lawyer is asked to put together a chronology so that there is a record of exactly who said what, when.

And that's what this document represents.

The interesting chronology shows that in March of 2016,

the U.S.

Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Arkansas informed the FBI's Little Rock investigators.

Again, as you point out, there are FBI investigations in Washington, D.C., and New York, and in Little Rock, which is where the Clintons, of course, lived for many years.

So it shows that in March of 16, the U.S.

Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Arkansas informed the FBI's Little Rock investigators that then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates ordered the federal prosecutors to shut it down, to quote, shut it down.

This is new per year reporting in the Cash Patel release.

So that's March of 2016.

Little Rock FBI is being told to shut it down.

Then we get to

August of 2016.

Federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York and the Eastern District of New York purportedly said that they would not support the investigation into the Clinton Foundation, according to this timeline.

No explanation was given.

That's August of 2016.

In June of 2016, so in between the bad news to the Little Rock investigators that came in March and the bad news unleashed by SDNY and EDNY in August of 2016.

So in June of 2016 was the Bill Clinton-Loretta Lynch

meeting on the tarmac.

We covered that on Fox News.

It was such a big deal.

Everyone knew something happened on board that airplane where they just happened to meet.

That was the story they wanted us to believe.

The planes just happened to land at the same place at the same time in Phoenix.

And they claimed they did not discuss anything.

They didn't discuss any DOJ investigation, nothing.

But they never had problems again after that, according to this timeline, John, with the Clinton Foundation investigation.

Yeah, you got it right.

And listen, this is something I've been saying for a long time.

And

if you remember, a couple, four years ago, five years ago, I was on Fox and helping people understand the Uranium One investigation.

The Uranium One investigation was one of the allegations that this corruption set of corruption probes were predicated on, that a transaction was allowed to go

American and North American-owned uranium was allowed to go to Rossatom and Vladimir Putin's uranium agency around the time that large transfers of money went to the

Clinton Foundation.

And Hillary Clinton State Department is one of the approval points in that thing.

That's one of the predications that they were looking at at the time.

That detail was in the FBI's hands, but it wasn't in the public's hands yet.

And there's a confidential human source that is assisting that part of the investigation.

You'll see in the timeline, there's a mention of a CHS confidential human source.

So that's going on, and it's heating up.

And I've always argued that I don't believe the TarMack meeting could have been about the email investigation because Hillary Clinton's lawyers knew by mid-June that the FBI was shutting down the email case, that it was going to be a recommendation of no process, no prosecution, and they weren't worried about it anymore.

I know that for certain as a reporter who was talking to Hillary Clinton's legal team, they knew in mid to late June that they were out of peril.

We didn't know yet.

We didn't know until July 5th, but they knew.

They also knew that Little Rock was bubbling up on a corruption investigation.

And I think the more likely thing that we all ought to be focusing on is, did that come up?

in the meeting?

Was there any mention of the foundation?

And two,

was some of the concern about the emails on Hillary Clinton's servers, not the classified information, but what might have been chronicled about what the Secretary was dealing with that had relationships to donors at the Clinton Foundation.

I think that that is a very significant question that the FBI was trying to get to the bottom of and didn't.

And I'm going to remind you of one thing we learned from Tulsi.

A few weeks ago, we learned that there are five thumb drives of evidence in the Hillary Clinton email

investigation that were never looked at.

That is the explosive annex that got released with the help of Chuck Grassley, with the help of the president.

At my request, I made the request to the president.

No one has ever exploited what is on those five thumb drives.

And we ought to now all be pressing to get that information.

I've already filed a Freedom of Information Act request.

Five thumb drives.

Maybe there's some evidence on those thumb drives that would relate either to classified documents or to the Clinton Foundation case.

And I think that is a place now that if the Justice Department revives all of this information, that's a strong place that they're likely to start.

I just can't get over the contrast.

They raided Melania Trump's underwear drawer.

They searched Baron Trump's personals down at Mar-a-Lago.

They uncovered every stone in an effort to get Trump, this FBI, Biden's FBI, and DOJ, and actually did bring criminal charges against him, the Democrats did, in four different jurisdictions.

But with this, At every turn, John, they worked to dismiss evidence to, when they found it, simply look the other way.

When they might have been getting close to indicting,

been told no by the deputy attorney general or the attorney general herself, not interested.

It won't go, quote, too far.

I mean, the double standard when it comes to a Clinton and a Biden on the one hand versus a man named Donald Trump on the other is shocking.

And the

dismissal.

of any evidence that downplayed their narrative on Putin's trying to help Trump, right?

Like they had so much telling them that that is bullshit.

He actually didn't care who won the election.

They worked so hard to dismiss the evidence that helped Trump and to play up the obvious false evidence like Christopher Steele dossier that would impugn Trump.

But meanwhile, you've got three different FBI agents all driving toward the same conclusion, which is the sitting Secretary of State is corrupt.

She is doing pay-to-play.

You can only get access to her as the Secretary of State if you donate to her corrupt Clinton Foundation, and it gets shut down.

It's the opposite.

It's literally a 180 from what they did to Donald Trump.

Yeah, listen, the way you opened your show, there's no better description of what the conspiracy is.

It's a conspiracy to protect potential of Democrats from potential criminal prosecution and then to violate the civil liberties and privacy and reputations of innocent Republicans to create an alternate story to protect political interests, meaning what's going to happen in the election.

That's what it is.

It's not more complicated.

And I know people say, oh, a conspiracy case is going to be complicated.

No, it's really not.

We protected Democrats.

And the cycle is Hillary has two problems.

Email, now corruption.

We can prove that was active at the time.

Hunter Biden's got corruption and taxes.

And by the way, the first evidence of that comes in in March, March through May of 2016.

And then 2019, it's Henry Biden a lot more.

And so we impeach the president and we have the government actually creating stories that I think we will prove were false.

And then in 21, they find Joe Biden's classified documents at UPenn office in Washington and his garage.

And they got to make Donald Trump look like he's the classified guy first before they can let the pa cat out of the bag that Joe Biden has the same problem.

It's a wash, rinse, and repeat cycle.

And in the course of that, two potential crimes are occurring.

Obstruction of legitimate investigations.

Those are overt acts of a conspiracy.

And then the violation of innocent people's civil liberties to create a political ruse.

That is where I believe the grand conspiracy case is headed.

I now believe that there are multiple grand juries that have begun work around this country in multiple jurisdictions outside of Washington where evidence is now being gathered.

You do?

You

can report that or you have reason to believe that?

Nope, I have confirmed witnesses who've had contact with the grand jury.

So there are grand jurors in multiple locations.

Some of those are in Virginia.

I believe one is going to begin based on early discussions in Pennsylvania.

There may be one in New York.

And so the activity has begun.

And the question now is, and those are probably not going to be the indicting locations.

I think the more likely thing is you use multiple grand juries just to make it easy to gather lots of information quickly.

That's the way strike forces work.

And then you keep working from there.

But there are multiple locations where pieces of this are being looked at.

And maybe the grand jurors don't even know it's a grand conspiracy, just looking at some of the overt acts in one of these chapters of this sad story.

But that is going on.

And I think it's going to be a process, right?

It's going to be a six-month process.

I don't know the reason yet.

I wish I knew.

I don't know the reason.

I mean, there's lots.

It could be related to the 2020 election.

Yeah, that's where my mind went.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we don't know yet.

I just know that certain witnesses have been contacted about acceptance of grand jury subpoenas and they're in different locations.

So the process is beginning, but it's a long process.

And, you know, we won't know a lot about if the Justice Department does the right thing, unlike the Obama and Biden Justice Departments that leaked anything, the grand jury process will be unbelievably secret and will be masked from it because that's the way the process is supposed to work.

In the meantime, we have an opportunity through the Freedom of Information Act and through our purchases as reporters to go out and try to get the story for the American people so they can understand why this is going on.

The Democrats, who didn't care about going after a president when it was the Republican, are going to start crying, this is payback, this is retribution.

We need Americans to understand it's not payback and retribution.

There are legitimate legal questions here.

I mean,

all that comes to mind in response to that is, you know, as Socrates or Aristotle might have put it, suck it.

I couldn't care less.

Like, too bad.

What they have done, truly, they must be punished.

They must have skin in the game, real skin in the game, or they really will, A, just have gotten away with it, and B, do it again.

A couple of questions here what i agree with you that if there's a grand conspiracy case brought it's not going to be in pennsylvania it's probably going to be down in florida which you know we've had a lot of people kind of kick around and raise over and over in this context the rate on mar-a-lago is part of this which would give them jurisdiction down there the odds of getting a better judge and a better jury much higher for team trump but

what what are you hearing when it comes to the possible possible names who might potentially be looking at an indictment here Yeah, the only thing I know for sure is that there are multiple referrals.

The first referrals came from the House Intelligence Committee in 19 and 20.

They've been secret all this time, but I have confirmed as many as a dozen people referred at that moment in 19 and 20 in the aftermath of the Ukraine impeachment

show and the Russia collusion unraveling.

Then there are the ones from John Ratcliffe and there are the ones from Tulsi Gabbert.

We kind of know some of those names, John Brennan, James,

people like that.

Yeah, those are there.

And I wouldn't be surprised based on yesterday's release of some information, which was incremental but important.

You've got James Clapper.

So it wouldn't be surprising if those names are there.

They have said on television they expect to be encountering the criminal justice system in some way, and they're lawyering up.

So I think those are reasonable things.

I think this starts much lower than the big names.

When you're rolling up the mob, you start with the capos and the street lieutenants.

You don't go right to the Godfather, right?

You don't go to John Gotti right away.

So they're going to roll up people in the deep state and in these non-profits and in some of these other places and then get them to testify upward until they get to the top.

So the big guns are probably not going to face much consequence short-term other than maybe a subpoena for their records.

And I think that's, you know, if it's a traditional conspiracy case like you pursue the mob and the cartels, that's how they normally work.

And I think the Justice Department is going back to the way it used to do things, and that should be comforting to us.

Yeah.

All right.

I have another, it's related, but it's just so the audience can follow us along.

It's off the discussion of today's news.

You mentioned the House Intelligence Report, this one that was done in 2020, that wound up in a safe at Langley.

Now, I'm trying to understand, John,

why it is that we didn't get to see this until just now, until it got declassified.

And

what I'm finding, because you got to go back and remember who was in charge.

So Trump won in 2016 and the Republicans won the House.

So the Republicans had control of the House House from 16.

Well, I mean, he took office in 17, but

he gets worn in a little earlier.

So the Republicans take office fall of 16 through fall of 18, and then they lost control of the House to the Democrats.

So in that two-year period, while Trump was president, Devin Nunes was...

the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and he launched an investigation into how the Russia gate nonsense got generated.

And he was a real hero.

I mean, he's truly like an unsung hero.

I mean, he's kind of sung.

Some Republicans know, but he really did get to the bottom of a lot of the nonsense.

But he didn't release the report, the House Intel report, that really, the one that we've been discussing, that has all these new juicy nuggets in it.

He didn't release it.

That investigation seems to have continued even once the Democrats took power in the House and Adam Schiff, then a congressman, took over as chairman of the committee.

It continued going and it wasn't completed until the fall of 2020 when the Democrats were still in control of the committee.

So

I don't understand why when it was finally done, it didn't get released.

I can see why Adam Schiff didn't necessarily want to release it because it wasn't good for his side and the Russiagate stuff.

But why wouldn't a Republican have leaked it?

What I'm reading online is that it's the Republicans who sent it to the CIA, and then the CIA didn't want to declassify it, and they put it in this safe at Langley.

So why would the Republicans not have made sure this thing got leaked and made public in 2020?

Why did it go underground for five years with all these revelations in it?

Because Republicans followed the law.

This had highly classified information about sources and methods.

Some of it is still redacted, even in the version that we got in the last couple of weeks.

So they weren't willing to do an atom shift, which is, we'll just leak classified information.

They followed the law.

I think they believed that their Republican president and his administration would get it out there.

But the CIA under Gina Haspel often wasn't very friendly to the Republican House intelligence.

That's Trump's CIA director.

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And I think when history looks back over time, it is that intelligence apparatus under Gina Haspel that allowed some of the Ukraine things to go on that we now know to be bogus.

It's that intelligence apparatus that slowed down Devin Nunes until he was in the minority.

And then once you're in the minority, the only way you can force it out is by a vote of the committee.

You're going to lose that vote because you don't have enough members.

So the system,

that steel curtain, I used to cover football and I was a sports writer early in my career and everybody remembers the great Pittsburgh Steelers defense.

No one could get through that line.

They were called the steel curtain.

Donald Trump faced the steel curtain.

It was at the Justice Department.

It was at the FBI.

It was at the CIA.

It was at the ODNI.

And the secrets that could have exonerated him or informed the American people got trapped in that steel curtain until just a few short weeks ago.

It is remarkable that they were able to keep things a secret for nine, six, seven, six years.

And by the way, we're not done seeing some crazy secrets exposed.

There's going to be more troubling things ahead than anything we've talked about this week.

Oh, my gosh.

All right.

Well, just clear your schedule every day at noon until this stops.

One not unrelated question to

that question.

The Senate Intel Committee and its report, this is the Democrats' favorite thing to point to.

They say there is no scandal here whatsoever, and you need look no further than at Marco Rubio's Senate Intelligence Committee, which they claim verified all the things in that January intelligence community assessment.

It's not true, they did not support that,

like the key conclusions on collusion, et cetera, or Putin wanting to help trump but that it did generally support what the ica had found and one thing all along we've been asking is why and i've heard different answers from different very smart people what's your answer to that john

so i saw this split um as i was reporting you know i was breaking a lot of the early russia collusion reversal stories even before devin's

18 report came out and i continued to be on fox for a long time and then kind of every night we'd unravel it on one of the great shows

I met an unusual schism inside the Republican Party.

And that schism on one side would be someone like Paul Ryan, who wanted to believe that the FBI would never mislead Congress.

And so for the longest time, Paul Ryan's like, John, I think you lost your marbles, dude.

I think you're over the line here.

Trust me, I'm getting the stuff you don't see.

And I'm like, sir, I'm getting the stuff you aren't seeing.

And we, at some point in the late summer, you could go check this, late summer of 2018, he gave me a statement saying, I was wrong.

There is a problem problem here.

We were misled and I'm pissed.

And that was the first pivot moment.

The same sort of mindset, which is, you know, there are Republicans who want to believe that the institutions we used to trust and they could still trust.

And so they were believing the briefings they get from an Andy McCabe, a Pete Strzok, and a Bill Preestop inside the FBI.

Obviously, those briefings were not nearly as complete as we would later learn.

On the other side were the Devin Nunases, which is, listen, I'm just a common sense guy.

None of this makes sense.

I know what the FBI tells me in these classified briefings, and it doesn't make sense.

And I'm just too curious not to find out the truth.

And that schism played out.

The largest group of institutionalists, the people who still wanted to believe the institutions would never mislead Congress, were on the Senate intelligence committee.

Marco Ruby wants to believe in institutions.

I think he did.

And certainly Bill Burr did.

And the Senator Burr was a huge critic of President Trump from North Carolina.

And so he's the chairman for most of the time that report is.

Marco gets to release it because Burr leaves, but Marco's at the end of that process.

And I think at the end of the day, all of those members look back and say, all right, I know what I wrote then, and I wrote it with what I was being told.

But the truth of the matter is we weren't told a lot of things.

I'd love to see what Marco Rubia would say about that report today.

I think he has been one of the true truth tellers in the early Trump administration.

He's made big things happen.

And if he believed in the institutions back then, look at what he's done to the State Department since he got in.

He eviscerated an institution that had been completely corrupting the American public's expectations.

And the State Department, USID are a little bit, that tells you something.

Marco Rubia finally figured out the institutions were the problem, not the solution.

And last question, Michael Schmidt, New York Times reporter, married to Nicole Wallace of MSNBC, he was on her show yesterday.

They did not disclose that they're married.

I'm sorry.

That is a serious problem.

I mean, I've had my husband Doug on this show to promote his books.

You know, his latest book was a big bestseller, was non-fiction.

Even in that context, I disclose to the audience, this is my husband.

The audience must know if you have a bias toward the person you're bringing on.

They must know that it's absolutely irresponsible to have him on to discuss Russia Gate,

a scandal in which he is caught up and have him opine on the scandal as an objective reporter who's got arm's length from the whole controversy.

This is extremely corrupt, but that's not what I want to ask you.

She did ask him some questions about the Senate Intel Committee report.

And actually, it was the day before on his podcast, The Daily,

his newspaper's podcast.

That he tried to dismiss that House Intel Committee report, John, by saying it was done by a bunch of partisan hacks.

It was all these Republican partisan hacks.

And like, they're the outlier.

They differed from the Senate Intel Committee report, kind of like dismissing it.

Like, what do you expect a bunch of MAGA faithful to write in assessing whether Trump was colluding with the Russians?

Your thoughts on that?

You know, I had a fascinating episode in the summer of 17.

My office at that time, I was working at the Hill, and I was right near the New York Times Washington Bureau office.

And I was going out to lunch.

I was taking a couple interns who had done a good job.

We were just going to get a sandwich and talk, shop for a little bit.

And I was walking down the street, and one of the New York Times reporters, who I knew for a long time and respected, confronted me on the street and started screaming and yelling at me.

He literally was trying to get into fisticuffs with me, screaming that I was ruining his reputation and that

I didn't understand who his sources were and I was wrong about Russia collusion and I was ruining his reputation.

And he literally was almost to the point of punching me and I told him, I seriously suggest you should just walk away now.

Walk away, calm yourself down.

Don't make a fool of yourself in the middle of the street.

And you're probably not going to hit me in the middle of the street because there's like 9,000 cameras.

And he ran off still screaming at me.

That passion I saw that day tells me something about the New York Times team that has done that reporting.

And that is they're so emotionally invested in the stories that they wrote, that they won Pulitzers on, that they can't separate themselves from the job of what the facts are.

You just can't fall in love with a story.

That's one of the greatest dangers.

It's the ultimate blinders that journalists get when they make a mistake.

You have to always be a skeptic, even when it's a trusted source.

And I think history will look back.

at the Washington Post and the New York Times, much like Jeff Gurth has already done in the Columbia Journalism Review and said, good reporters, well-intentioned reporters, fell in love with the story and couldn't separate fact from fiction, couldn't see the motives of their sources.

We now know the motives of their sources.

Why?

Because that's what Daniel Richmond admitted to.

What did he tell the FBI?

I was trying to take care of James Comey's image and fix it, and I was trying to set future narratives.

He was basically using the New York Times to accomplish the work he was being paid to do.

He had a motive.

I think history will look back at these teams and say, no matter what the Pulitzer Committee says, because I don't think anyone cares about the Plitzer Committee anymore, their award system doesn't mean anything to anyone.

People say, John, you should get a Plutzer.

No, I don't want it.

Don't give it to me.

I'll turn it back.

I don't want it.

But I think investigators.

These investigative reporters fell in love with their sources and the storyline and couldn't see the facts from the fiction.

And that is a problem that has existed in journalism for 10 or 15 years.

Earlier generations of reporters have done great work at these institutions.

They did do Plitzer Caliber work and the meaning we mean it by, but they got blinders.

And I think when you see these defenses now, I mean, if you're still defending Russia collusion now,

you're beyond delusional.

And the American public has moved beyond you if you're trying to make some defense of it.

The great journalists sometimes get it wrong.

It's not a perfect profession.

When you get it wrong, say so and move on.

The other piece of it is, and I watched this happen to you, and I knew you back on the Fox News days, and I knew you to be a man of integrity, and you're reporting to be very solid, but they tried and still try to paint you as a right-wing lunatic, some sort of a nutjob, far-right, unreliable guy, because they have to, because either they're right or you're right.

Both cannot be true.

And so they engage in the politics of personal destruction.

You know, it has to be some fringy right-wing lunatic, right?

And you've told us the other day about your, you know, long background at the AP and the Washington Times and other respectable,

well, previously at least, respectable outlets.

And it didn't matter because your narrative had to be squashed and so did you.

Yeah, I definitely encountered that.

And, you know, to me, it turned out to be a blessing because I left a fractured industry that was misleading the public.

And I tried to go do something that maybe would help fix it.

And I hope before I hang up my spurs, one day people say, hey, people like Megan and John and all the others who went out on their own and started things, they helped fix the problem.

They got the American people informed again.

You said something that, and I think you nailed it.

The dynamic is either you're right or I'm right.

And that's the personal nature of it that these reporters have looked at.

And I've always asked.

Are the facts right?

That's all I care about.

I don't care if I'm right or wrong.

I just want to get the facts right.

And I know that's what you do.

I look at how you prep for your show.

I've seen it the last couple of days.

You are a quintessential reporter.

You care about the facts.

You want to know what's new, what's old.

And in the way you've interviewed me, that's just about being about the facts.

Too many of these reporters have gotten invested in their personality.

When I grew up in the AP, you didn't get a byline, right?

You were just by the Associated Press.

So your personality didn't matter.

Your work is what mattered.

And that was a great culture to grow up in.

I think reporters have to stop worrying about their personalities and their social media followings and their stardom and who's going to assign them to the next prize.

Prizes.

And get back to, yeah, prizes.

Yeah, exactly.

Prizes particularly.

And just get back to the facts.

Am I right?

Just the facts, ma'am.

Like they used to say on Dragnet.

Let's get back to facts.

Facts matter.

And I'm so appreciative.

I listened to your podcast a lot.

And you just focus on the facts.

And I think journalism is best when it does that.

And it's not about me and you, names, and stardom.

It's about what the story told the American public and was it right.

We got to get back to that.

That's the ultimate panacea.

I'm not sure we can, but I'm sure it's all going to try before I retire.

Yeah.

Amen to that.

No, my team will tell you.

I'm constantly saying, because obviously I'm a Trump supporter and they know that.

But I'm constantly saying when we do our editorial for this show, for AM update, we are not in the business of running cover for Donald Trump.

If the facts are bad for Trump, that's going into our report.

That's coming into my research.

We are not in the business of running cover for him or any Republican or anyone whatsoever.

We're in the fact business.

And then I'll offer my own particular take on the news, which I think the audience understands the difference between.

But I would never sacrifice my credibility for him or any other politician.

And when you go down that line, there's no coming back from it, John,

as you know.

Well, listen, I'm so grateful for your reporting, your honesty, and your commitment to true, truly intellectually stimulating, interesting reporting, no matter where it falls.

God bless you.

Back at you.

Thanks.

Thank you.

All right.

Well, I think we're going to see you soon.

Based on how things are going, John Solomon, get used to him.

You're going to see him a lot here on the MK show.

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Joining me now, Stu Bregier.

He's host of Blaze TV's Stu Does America.

Stu, welcome back.

Great to have you.

Thank you, Megan Sick.

It's great to be here.

I appreciate it.

First of all, can you believe this crap with Solomon, what he's reporting, and like the day-to-day, I mean, the cover-up, we knew, of course, that the Obama administration and the Biden administration ran cover for Hillary Clinton and had no no interest in Clinton Foundation corruption, which has been, yeah, whole books have been written about it.

But now we're getting really the details.

Like three FBI field offices had investigations into it.

It was shut down by the Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates under Loretta Lynch.

I mean,

Andrew McCabe, too, like the number of people who are running cover for this woman we knew was corrupt.

It's stomach turning.

It really is.

And I, you know, thank God we have people like John Solomon to sort through it.

I mean, I think it's time to...

Cash Patel and Tulsi to release it.

To release it.

Yeah.

And that's a huge piece of this, as you covered toward the end of the interview there.

That, you know, having people who,

and I think a lot of times we talk about, you know,

people like me who just, you know, run my mouth on my opinions every single day, try to do the best to bring out the truth, of course.

But like, I'm not a reporter like John is.

I think at times conservatives have sort of abandoned that world, thinking, well, you know, all these big institutional,

you know, places like the New York Times and the Washington Post and the LA Times, they don't even hire conservatives.

If they find out that you are even going to entertain the conservative perspective, you're going to lose your job.

You're not going to get any of your Pulitzers.

You're not going to get any of those awards.

And so we sort of almost, for a while, it felt like almost abandoned that space.

And I think John and several others, Peter Schweizer, I think, does a lot of this.

I know you do it as well.

People who actually care about journalism, people who care about the facts, going into that space and saying, no, we're just going to be, we're just going to just be like dogs, attack dogs, going after this information and trying to find the truth and presenting in a way as john does he's not he's not a hype machine you know he you know i don't know what john's his social media following is probably pretty good considering all the hard work he does but he's not you know he's not trying to be explosive he's not trying to set off fireworks he's not doing agent farming Exactly.

He's trying to give you, I mean, just the news is his website.

He's trying to give you the actual news.

And it's incredibly valuable to have people like that on our side because, you know, I think, you know, for the the most part, the people who have those jobs at these big institutions are on the left.

Occasionally, we'll see little blips of good reporting from those places.

But to have somebody who's not going to be able to do that.

Not on something like this.

Not on something.

Not on something like this.

They run on it.

They're not on Russia gate.

This is not something they would touch.

And it really did cause serious damage.

I mean, all this that was done to President Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia, the fake collusion stuff, really damaged his first term and undermined our entire foreign policy with and toward Russia.

Trump commented on that yesterday when he was at the Kennedy Center, which he is now calling the Trump-Kennedy Center.

Here he is on

what RussiaGate did to his first term, Satwan.

I had to go through the Russia-Russia hoax, and it was actually, it was a strain on the relationship.

I actually told him, I said, you know, they got this phony investigation going on, Russia, Russia, Russia, totally phony, created by Adam Schiff, Shifty Schiff and Hillary Clinton and the whole group of them.

And it made it very dangerous for our country because I was unable to really deal with Russia the way we should have been.

I'm looking at Pam because I hope something's going to be done about it.

These people put our country in great danger.

It was all made up.

It was a hoax.

The Mueller report came out.

They all hated me.

They had 18 Trump haters.

And they said I did nothing wrong.

They couldn't believe, they couldn't find anything.

After years of investigation, it was all a hoax.

It was a hoax created by the Democrats, but in particular Schiff and crooked Hillary, the whole group.

And

now we've learned all the stuff that's come out over the last two months is incredible through intelligence.

And hopefully something's going to happen where these are people that put our country in danger, in real danger.

Good point, right?

It's true.

Danger.

Yeah, I really did.

I mean, it threw off our entire country's foreign policies.

The outline, I mean, and Adam Schiff is legitimately one of the worst people that we are aware of in public life.

He is just, he's, you know, a Cretan of a sort that is, you know, you don't normally, I don't know, I don't know anybody like him in my life.

I mean, I know a lot of people, some people I like, some people I don't.

I don't know anyone who acts like him, who would do the types of things that he does.

Yeah, it's, it's borderline psychotic.

And, you know, I look at this stuff, I don't know.

I'm not as optimistic maybe as John is that we get to the end of this with arrests.

I hope we do.

I I hope this stuff does get to the end.

I know that it is a long process.

I'm very optimistic that people are going to be arrested now.

Convicted?

I don't know.

Convicted, I guess.

Yeah.

But I do see that there is a there's a bit of a charm when you go after somebody like this.

You know, they went after Trump all these times.

I was thinking about this the other day.

One of the ways they went after him after all these investigations was to go after him in the document scandal.

That document scandal led to Biden also being asked questions by Robert Hur, which wound up revealing to America he was an elderly man with a poor memory as if we didn't know it ourselves, but many needed a little bit more on that front, which leads to him dropping out of the race and the 2024 election going the way it does.

I don't know.

Maybe there's a way that this all comes together and justice is finally done.

I hope it's done through the legal system.

But either way, they've certainly paid a price politically and I think reputationally.

And they also say the process is the punishment, which was something we lamented when it was being done to Trump because there was nothing to punish him for.

There is something to punish them for.

And so if the process is as much punishment as we can get, I'll take it.

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In a little bit, Stu, we are going to be talking about Jussie Smollett, who is back in the news.

More details for you and some sound from him.

He is trying to relitigate whether he perpetuated a hate crime hoax against himself.

That case involved him claiming that he went to Subway in the middle of the night and was attacked while holding his Subway sandwich by two white guys wearing MAGA hats who called him racial epithets and then put a noose around his neck.

That didn't happen.

But there was an attack with a Subway sandwich last night in DC.

And it was a white guy, we're now told, who worked at the Department of Justice until this morning when he was fired by Pam Bondi, per Pam Bondi.

She's told us that piece of it.

But we saw this tape go viral on X with with this guy behaving like a complete ass in the face of the federal law enforcement officers who are standing there minding their own business, just keeping an eye on things to make sure things are safe.

For the listening audience, we're going to play it.

You see the man jumping up, like just jumping, like he's on a pogo stick in front of these cops.

And then out of nowhere, he takes his Subway sandwich and whips it at one of the officers.

The man is wearing a pink polo shirt

and tight little gray shorts.

He whips it at the officer and then takes off.

And now the officers chase him.

And they did get him.

And then we heard from Janine Pirro, who is, look at this, slow-mo now.

We've slow-moed the, he really whips it at him.

It hits him in like the collarbone on the left side.

And immediately they give chase.

So then we hear from Janine Pirro, who's honestly, there's a new sheriff in town down there.

Do not F with Judge Janine.

Here's Janine weighing in on this.

And the president's message to the criminals was, if you spit, we hit.

Well, we didn't quite do that the other night when an individual went up to one of the federal law enforcement officers and started jumping up and down, screaming at him, berating him, yelling at him.

And then he took a Subway sandwich about this big and took it and threw it at the officer.

He thought it was funny.

Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charge him with a felony, assault on a police officer.

And we're going to back the police to the hilt.

So, there, stick your subway sandwich somewhere else.

By the way, not for nothing, but here's sound from the subway sandwich attack incident.

You can hear the man calling the cops a fascist.

He's calling them fascists.

Listen:

They're what?

You see these fascists right here in our city?

Fascists?

Fuck you!

Fuck you, Fascist!

Motherfucker!

I love the guy videotaping.

Alright, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.

The guy whipping the subway sandwich appears to me like he is on something.

I'm like, he's too animated.

He's got too much energy.

He's doing the whole knee bend, Stu.

I mean,

you do the knee bend when you are genuinely mad.

Like,

you're bending the knees like, you fascist, you fascist with the knee bend.

You mean business.

And now, unfortunately for him, so does Judge Janine.

Yeah.

I have to say, look, it's, of course, what he did is

awfully awful and wrong.

I mean, the whole video is hilarious to watch, though.

I have to.

It is just an amazing video.

No one was hurt.

And this, you know, and luckily, this guy in his career is hurt and his reputation is hurt as well.

And he may be going to prison for a while.

And that's all really, really positive because when you act that way, that's exactly what should happen to you.

That's a terrible way.

way to act and a ridiculous, ridiculous thing.

The way he ran away, too, is very,

he was was really pacing himself as if he was going to run for like four or five miles.

There, I don't, I don't understand the approach.

Um, I don't understand the approach of these people, though.

You know, and these are law enforcement officials, and you know, they're doing their job.

Whether you like the job or not, they're doing it, they're doing it to the best of their ability.

And they're trying to protect you in a city that is a horror show, frankly, and has been for a really long time.

They, you know, they tried this whole thing of saying, oh, well, it's down by crime, it's down by 35%.

There's all sorts of problems with those numbers.

I'm sure you covered all that but like

down to what

you know i i think what trump has tried to say here is that what you're trying to tell me is acceptable is not acceptable uh this is an emergency situation it's just been a long brewing one and just despite the fact that it might be slightly better than 2023 the the peak of the last 30 years does not make me feel any better about it um and having someone like janine pirow in charge is gonna make a big difference you know when she was talked about in this role yeah yeah yeah.

When she was talked about in this role, the media kept saying, like, the same thing they did, you know, with Pete Hegseth and Dan Bongino and so many others.

Oh, well, Fox News personality gets this job.

How could they give this job to Fox News personality?

Jeannie Piro is not just a Fox News personality.

She became a Fox News personality because of her background in law enforcement.

My uncle was a homicide detective who in Westchester County worked under Jeannie Pierrow long before I had any idea who she was.

He would praise her like nobody's business because of how what a great job she did, how tough she was on the job, how she didn't put up with nonsense.

She cared about protecting the people of her community.

And that is

something that I feel like we have lost in Washington, D.C.

You know, I think we all realize that if you put enough police officers in these areas, you know, something like 14% of the murders happens in a 10-block radius in Washington, D.C.

You put a bunch of officers in that area, you're going to be able to stop a lot of that crime.

What our government has been saying for a very long time about D.C.

is we don't care enough.

We don't care enough to do anything about it.

And Donald Trump is stepping in and doing something.

Janine Piro's doing something.

And whether that's just, you know, whether it's taking care of something really serious like

a murder or an attempted murder with a subway sandwich,

with a tuna delight,

there has to be a line there.

And

I suppose a foot long long is where that line's being drawn.

Shanine Furrow is one of the first people I interviewed as an anchor.

I was substitute anchor at Fox News.

They hired me in 2004, and I didn't get to substitute anchor, I think, for another couple of years.

And I went up to New York, and she was running for New York State Attorney General.

And she came on, and I interviewed her.

She's just a badass.

I mean, like back then, we talked about all the stuff she had done as Westchester County DA.

It's just ridiculous that they want to diminish her.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a Fox News host.

Obviously, that's what I believe.

But

she's so much more than that.

I mean, truly, like, I was a Fox News host anchor for many, many years, 14 plus years.

And you know what?

I had a career as a lawyer for almost 10 years prior to that.

So many of us bring different things into our backgrounds, from our backgrounds, into our hosting or anchoring abilities.

Hag Seth, Bongino.

Piero, and yours truly among them.

Here's what Pam Bondi wrote.

If you touch any law enforcement officer, we will come after you.

I just learned that this defendant worked at the DOJ no longer.

Not only is he fired, he's been charged with a felony.

This is an example of the deep state we have been up against for seven months as we work to refocus DOJ.

You will not work in this administration while disrespecting our government and law enforcement.

I think she's really onto something there.

This is an example of the deep state we've been up against for seven months as we work to refocus DOJ.

I know this is happening at FBI, at the Pentagon, and elsewhere in the government.

They really are working against some of the leaders.

I think it's happening at FDA.

Like the Trump administration is real and he's assigned really

and nominated and had confirmed really important department heads.

But that doesn't mean that they can, with a magic wand, change these organizations, which in large part, oh, and by the way, DNI, which in large part not only don't support them, but but actively oppose them and are working against them.

How do you think that guy was handling any directive whatsoever issued by Pam Bondi or Todd Blanche, that DOJ employee?

Yeah, and we absolutely with certainty know that a lot of people inside of these organizations are working against Donald Trump, at least in the first term, mainly because they bragged about it to author after author after author in their tell-all books afterwards.

They wanted credit for it.

They wanted to be treated as heroes and liberators from Donald Trump.

And, you know, this, I think really, it's a bizarre incident.

And you're watching a guy throw a sandwich at another human being and then try to run away at medium pace.

It's a fascinating thing.

But what it really highlights when you think about it is how deep this issue is.

It's not like they didn't come into office thinking about getting rid of people like this guy.

Right.

The Trump administration ran on saying, what we're going to do is drain the swamp.

That was the first term.

And I think he's a lot more serious about it here in the second term.

He really wanted to make sure they got rid of those people.

He put people in charge who were

attack dogs to make sure that they could go after the people who were doing this type of thing.

And now we've gone through a whole period of Doge.

We've gone through a whole period of wise spread firing.

Yeah.

They got rid of a lot of these people.

And yet a guy who is so psychotic that he will bend his knees as he's screaming as hard as he can into the face of an officer and then, you know, throw a sandwich at his chest.

That guy was still employed as of yesterday.

Like he was still there.

Have you ever thrown a sandwich in anger, Stu Brigier?

Ever.

I never.

Only into my mouth, Megan.

And that usually is more hunger than anything else.

Or like

depression or anxiety.

You know, sometimes when my kids are playing tennis, like in a, in a match, I stress eat.

You know, I just, I've got to have like a bag of potato chips.

I don't know.

I've stress eaten with a sandwich before.

I don't think I've ever stress felonized anyone.

No, no.

First of all, don't attack people with sandwiches.

Secondly, they're sandwiches.

They're delicious.

You don't want to get rid of them.

You shouldn't waste it.

Don't.

I mean, that poor sandwich is now sitting on the ground.

Luckily, it's DC.

About 400 rats ate it about 10 seconds after that video ended.

So at least someone.

Maybe is it just me?

I love the color commentary.

I kind of love the guy who's like, motherfucker.

Yeah.

It is.

It is amazing.

I kind of want him to, I don't know, is there an opening at the NFL to just kind of call games on the sidelines?

I kind of want to get his conversation.

I'm going to put you on the Megan Kelly show.

I want him to walk us through exactly, play by play.

Like, how did you know something was going down?

What was your reaction inside when you saw the subway get thrown?

Anyway, it was all great.

It's a great story.

This just in on the guy, his name,

let's see.

I can't see his name, but his last name is Dunn, D-U-N-N.

Sean, Sean Dunn.

He is.

He was an international.

Yeah, he is Dunn.

He was an international affairs specialist with the Office of International Affairs within the DOJ's criminal division.

According to a Justice Department official, the office handles international extraditions, prisoner swaps, and other overseas operations.

Well, he should be happy then because President Trump has been doing a really great job getting not necessarily our prisoners back, but people being held hostage back.

And if he's into prisoner swaps, he should be applauding him.

Why is he so angry?

I don't know.

We'll surely find out why he thinks they're all fascists.

Okay, let's move on.

Hunter Biden may be soon in a litigation with Melania Trump.

How's that for a headline?

Hunter Biden gave this interview to this Channel 5 YouTuber.

And in it, he claimed as follows on August 5th, SOT 8.

Epstein introduced Melania to Trump.

The connections are like

so wide and deep.

They knew each other well.

They spent an enormous time together.

According to his biographer, it is that Jeffrey Epstein introduced Melania.

That's how Melania and the first lady and the president met.

Really?

Epstein made the intro.

Yeah, according to Michael Wolf.

And so I only can go by what people are saying, and I don't know.

Okay.

So he cites...

Epstein's biographer, who is Michael Wolf, for his information.

And sure enough, Michael Wolf, the month before, it was July, went on the Daily Beast podcast and said the following: Satanai.

You know, she was very involved in the Epstein, in this Epstein relationship.

I mean, there is this model thing,

but, you know, and Epstein

talks about, you know, and she's introduced by a model agent, both of whom Trump and Epstein are involved with.

She's introduced

to Trump that way.

Epstein knows her well.

The first time Epstein says the first time Donald Trump and Melania have sex is on his airplane.

So Melania Trump, her lawyer, wrote Hunter Biden a nasty gram, a legal nasty gram,

that says, I'm going to sue you for a billion dollars unless you apologize for that.

And it's retracted and removed.

And that the error is acknowledged in as public a way as the offense was committed to begin with.

Saying your source for your false statements was serial fabulist Michael Wolf, whose lies were published by the Daily Beast in an article titled Melania Trump, Very Involved in an Epstein Scandal.

The Daily Beast, unfortunately for Hunter Biden, issued an apology to Melania Trump and retracted the false and defamatory statements.

immediately thereafter,

because clearly Melania's people had contacted them too.

And And so they did pull it, said they were sorry, and issued a retraction because they'd heard from Milani directly, it's not true, and this is made up, like a lot of things are by Michael Wolf.

So now Hunter Biden's twisting in the wind because he's repeated the defamatory statement in a very public way on this YouTube show.

And

the ball's in his court.

Well, he has responded, went back to the same place, and this interview was posted today.

It was posted today, and here's what he said in SOT 7.

Fuck that.

That's not going to happen.

I think they're trying to use other things to distract.

And I also think they're bullies and they think that a billion dollars is going to scare me.

Look at him.

He's got all the confidence of a man who's been repeatedly protected by law enforcement his entire life.

He's like, fuck that.

No one can ever get me.

I'm under Biden.

I get pardoned.

I get DOJs running interference for me when the IRS has got me by the balls.

I'm good.

She can F off.

So

should she actually go ahead and file her lawsuit?

I know I'm not asking you as a, you're not a lawyer, but do you think it would be smart for her to get involved in what will essentially be a political battle as well as a legal one?

Yes.

Yes.

I will go to

your punishment is the

process argument from before process is the punishment.

I do think that it is worth it.

I mean, look, you know, nobody wants their name in a headline with Jeffrey Epstein.

It's not a good thing.

So, I mean, it's a legitimately serious thing when you're taking somebody's, you're making an argument that I don't even think Michael Wolfe actually made, by the way.

I mean, Wolf did say, again, Wolf has his own battles with the truth, as it has been well covered.

But, like, even his claim was that they first had sex on the plane.

It wasn't even that they were introduced by Epstein.

He even said in the podcast, he just said that, you know, they were all in kind of an area where

they were all running in those circles with models.

And he was introduced to Melania through a modeling agency.

So it's not even clear that Hunter Biden's claim was accurate, even to what Michael Wolf said.

Beyond that, it was broadcast on the Daily Beast.

The fact that they retracted and apologized for something is maybe the biggest part of the story.

Those people have absolutely no standards at all.

I don't know that they've ever cared about a journalistic standard in their entire life.

They must be scared of that lawsuit.

I'll tell you that.

No kidding.

It's a fascinating thing to watch and to watch Hunter Biden come out.

You're right.

He's an entitled person.

He believes he's going to be, I mean, look, he was actually pardoned by the president of the United States.

He has some reason to believe he's going to survive every single thing that comes his way.

But

not pardoned for future crimes.

Exactly.

Not pardoned for future crimes and not pardoned for civil lawsuits.

There's all sorts of ways that this could wind up burning him.

And I think what's central to the Hunter Biden thing, look, Hunter Biden's gone through some tough years, okay?

We all kind of are aware of this.

The past 10 to 15 years have not been exactly a fun time to be Hunter Biden, though he's had many, many parties in that time.

They're not always resulting in fun.

The one thing he has been praised for over the past 10 years has been this interview

with this guy from Channel 5, Andrew Callahan.

And he was praised by the left, the people that he wants to be praised by.

He could be the new Joe Rogan, Megan.

Look at how he's just such a plain talker.

He'll say anything.

I really do think this type of that reaction has incentivized him to go even farther.

And

you think about the way that the internet works, clicks work, and money works, and donations work, and attention works.

All those incentives point one direction.

Keep saying it.

Go farther.

You know, it's the Jasmine Crockett theory.

The dumber and louder you are, the more attention that you get.

And I think Hunter's falling into this.

And when Donald Trump's on the other side of that, and his wife, who he's going to defend, and a billion-dollar lawsuit, I think this is a terrible mistake from a guy who's made many of them.

And it's knowable how they met.

I mean, Melanie Trump wrote a memoir in her self-titled book back in 2024, and she wrote as follows, that she met Trump at a September 1998 fashion week party at the Kit Kat Club in New York City.

Quote, I saw my friend wave at someone behind me.

When I turned around, I noticed a man and an attractive blonde woman approaching us.

Hi, I'm Donald Trump, the man said when he reached my table.

From the moment our conversation began, I was captivated by his charm and easygoing nature, she wrote, noting that their back and forth was a, quote, refreshing departure from the usual superficial small talk and made her feel like quote the center of his world.

I found myself drawn to his magnetic energy.

And then he called me a 10.

No, I made up that last line.

That didn't happen.

I would have totally believed that, I will say.

I would have believed it.

But that's the story.

It's not Epstein introduced them.

It's not Epstein, whatever.

So we'll see.

Ball's in her court now.

And it's very, very hard for a public figure to recover for defamation, which is not a crime.

It's a civil tort that you would sue for.

But we'll see because public figures...

If they sue for defamation, have to be subjected to a deposition themselves.

She will be cross-examined by Hunter Biden's lawyers, but she may be prepared to do all of that because, just to make a point, that you can't lie about her with impunity, and you certainly can't bring Jeffrey Epstein anywhere close to somebody like that and not expect them to rattle your cage a bit.

So, we shall see.

I'm interested to see how it goes.

Now, Hunter Biden, in his first interview with this guy

on Channel 5, he sold the use of crack

so ardently and in such a heartfelt way that

it actually helped me understand how he got his dead brother's widow hooked on crack.

This man is a true believer in crack.

He loves crack.

He loves it like a person loves their children.

He's a huge believer in crack.

Almost as big a believer as Donald Trump is in grass.

Not that kind of grass.

actual green grass like you might find on a golf course.

And here is why I say that.

We're going to be redoing the parks, redoing the grass.

You know, grass has a lifetime like people have a lifetime.

And the lifetime of this grass has long been gone.

When you look at the parks where the grass is

all tired, exhausted, we're going to redo the grass with the finest grasses.

I know a lot about grass because I own a lot of golf courses.

And if you don't have good grass, you're not in business very long, Lynn.

Talk about attention to detail, Stubergere.

He's worried about the grass in the nation's capital, in the parks, because it doesn't look good.

And our national capital doesn't look good.

And it's all part of his re-beautification project, getting rid of the homeless, doing something about the sanitation issues, cleaning up the crime.

And right down to the blades of grass looking past their time and Donald Trump, the sitting president president of the United States, doing something about it.

I applaud it all.

Yeah, you know, I mean, it's funny because people will mock him on this.

They go after him for all sorts of these types of efforts.

This ties directly into what he's doing in D.C., right?

This is not just because, you know, there were some violent attacks.

He looks at D.C.

as an embarrassment.

You know, he's the leader of the free world here.

He's got world leaders coming in from all over the place, and they're coming to this town that none of them are allowed to walk around in in the middle of the night.

I mean, honestly, past dusk, it gets a little risky in a lot of areas.

This is part of his, you know, beautification, I think, is part of it, but like it is, and that's the way he talks about it.

Of course, he's talking about, you know, things being beautiful, the most beautiful things you've ever seen.

But it also ties into what he's doing with this ballroom.

The best grass.

We've got the best grass.

It goes into what he's doing with the ballroom inside the White House as well.

This is something he is looking at this, not from his own perspective.

Yes, Donald Trump loves gold things.

Yes, Donald Trump, I'm sure, loves, you know, nice green grass at his golf resorts.

But he's thinking about this is when he's got foreign dignitaries coming in and he needs to be able to present something from the United States that is

a position of power.

It is a position of negotiation.

He knows those things matter not to him, but to the people he's talking to.

He knows those things matter.

When foreign

presidents come in and foreign leaders come in and they see D.C.

as

the cesspool in certain areas that it is, it's not only embarrassing, but it's also something that makes us look weak.

And Donald Trump, I think, correctly identifies the fact that you have to be able to present American power in these arrangements.

You have to, you know, having

gold

palaces is, yes, it's, you know, for a foreign

king or something is, is something that certainly coddles their life very nicely, but it's more than that.

It sends a signal of power and it is something that you need.

It's not, you know,

I, as an American, I love the charm that we are led by citizens.

I love the charm of us being,

you know, having a president that has really limited limits in his power.

I mean, I remember Trump talking about this earlier in his first term, when people would be like, well, why don't you just do that?

And our Constitution says he can't, right?

We have those limitations.

And as an American, I really, really respect them and love that we have always had those traditions but when you're talking to a foreign leader you have to be able to communicate in their language he did that with kim jong-un he's done that all over the world that's an important thing that he takes seriously and part of that is making dc seem like a place that anyone on earth would want to visit outside of the mall during the day That's so true.

I think back to when I was at Jones Day, a big law firm practicing law.

And I was in their Chicago office and for a time in their DC office.

And you'd walk into that office, both of them, both at the end of the year.

I was in the New York office too.

I was all over with for them.

But you walk into their offices and like

it's like marble and glass and like the

big thing like on the floor showing where all their offices are across the world, you know, in London and Riyadh and wherever.

And it's just a whole, and there's war halls hanging on the

office walls and the lobby.

And it's all part of a presentation to welcome clients.

Like, this is the level of service you're going to get here.

Nothing will be phoned in.

It will be first class beginning to end.

And Trump's trying to do that to the nation's capital as the seat of power, as where all these other foreign officials come and meet with him.

He wants it.

I mean, he wants it to be like a Trump golf course.

He wants it to be like Mar-a-Lago, where it's extravagant and luxurious and at a minimum, absolutely beautiful and pristine and clean.

So I applaud it.

I think it makes perfect sense.

He's still taking a lot of flack for it.

My only question is, and my husband and I were talking about this this morning, who's next?

Let's do New York next.

We certainly aren't going to get it cleaned up under Mom Dani.

Let's do Chicago, which used to be so clean and now is disgusting.

Let's do Oakland.

Let's do Baltimore.

Let's do any, but you know, you're not allowed to do it to any other city that has a black mayor because the left has said, oh, these are all towns run by black mayors and that's racist to try to stop them.

from getting killed.

Towns that have a heavy black population or a black mayor, they should suffer the crime.

That's what's not racist.

Let them get killed.

Let them get robbed.

If you say anything about their mayor allowing them to be killed and robbed, it's racist.

So the Chicago mayor, Brandon Johnson, who's an absolute incompetent fool, weighs in on Tuesday on whether Trump's cleanup squad is coming soon to him.

And here's what he said.

What do you say to Donald Trump?

How did you feel when Donald Trump called you and counted him?

What did you feel?

He just addressed this.

Thanks.

Please answer that question.

If you want to.

Okay, fine.

Since you are begging, I do believe that Donald Trump is intimidated.

I know, I think.

Okay, no interruption.

So let me just answer that.

I do appreciate you begging.

So I will just say it like this: that the president has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men.

And so, of course, he would speak in those

petite and puerile terms

because

he's small.

Got it.

He is intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men.

That's why he wants to stop crime in cities like D.C.

and Chicago, and why he called Brandon Johnson incompetent stew.

I mean, it's just so absolutely ridiculous.

And we know it's ridiculous.

It's been like, if you go back to pre-Apprentice, right?

You go back to the days when Donald Trump was just a really famous real estate developer in New York.

Go back to those days and see what his comments were about New York City back then.

He was worried about these things.

Way back then and has been consistently worried about crime in cities his entire public life.

This is not a person who came in like mom Donnie, who nobody had heard of, you know, six months ago.

This is someone who has been one of of the most famous people in the United States for half a century.

We can really

aware of what the guy has said on record.

And he has been focused on crime in the city for a really long time.

And the fact that it's treated as racism to try to implement some sort of order in a majority African-American city is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard in my life.

I mean, one of the things we all have to admit about what's happened over the past week or so here with the DC situation is that Donald Trump seems to be the first person in a long time who's really cared about any of these people in the city.

Like, we've had a lot of people who have, there have been a lot of mayors, a lot of, I mean, a lot of, I mean, I don't know, maybe Marion Berry was the person who initially introduced Hunter Biden to crack.

I'm not sure, but people who really, really enjoyed substances

cared about crime, committing it often in hotel rooms.

But like, you know, that stat that I was talking about before really hit me this week as I was going through all this DC stuff.

A 10-block area is responsible for 14% of the murders in that city.

It's impossible to understand how this has not been addressed before.

What happens?

That's what happened in Chicago.

The cops do not go in the south side of Chicago.

They let the gang members kill each other.

And if you're not a gang member, you're exposed, right?

You have no posse to have your back.

And kids get killed, drive-by shootings on their porches, in their homes, at the community center.

Those who helped them get shot.

It's like most cops in these terrible, terrible areas have washed their hands of it.

And Trump is actually looking at it saying, no, I'm actually going to send somebody in there.

And by the way, what we're hearing from black business owners in D.C.

and elsewhere is, write on, do this.

Here's one black business owner.

who reacted to this narrative from the media.

Crime is down.

Crime is down.

D.C.

is, you know, some sort of Eden.

Safor

and the city keeps saying crime is down, but do you feel safe?

No, I don't think so.

Crime is down.

Crime is off.

And DC

total lie.

So you have an Indian person and a black person saying total lie.

Everybody knows it.

This is what's so what one of the really fascinating things about this back and forth is the media and the left have a certain,

I believe they think it's a constitutional duty to just say the opposite of whatever Donald Trump is saying.

So they are reactionary in that way.

And in this particular situation, what Donald Trump is saying is that crime is bad in D.C.

So they're forced to come up with some justification to say, no, it's not.

Actually, this is Disneyland.

And that is, Donald Trump is really good at this.

He's really good at putting people in positions that they should not be defending, right?

Yes.

There's no

any person with eyes or nostrils, for that example, because a lot of the city smells too.

Anybody who goes into Washington, D.C.

knows that with the exception of very public areas where a bunch of our representatives live and the mall and certain monuments, it is a really tough city.

A lot of bad things happen.

Everybody with eyes knows it.

And he's put them in a position to say, you know, the exact opposite of what everyone sees and knows.

And they are just dumb enough to do it, right?

They're just dumb enough to come out there and say, actually, everything's great here.

And he's the one that's lying.

So now here is the related controversy.

We announced this when he did it back in, was it the end of March, I think, where Trump issued an executive order saying, we are going to take a hard look at the Smithsonian,

which is several different museums and several different buildings and the museums in Washington, D.C.

And we are going to cleanse them of their obsession with hatred for America.

That doesn't mean we're getting rid of anything that speaks to some of the stains on our history, like the museums that were, the pieces of the museums that talk about slavery or the civil rights movement and the conditions that led to it.

That doesn't mean that at all.

It's if you go into these museums, there is a general infection by DEI.

And I can speak to this personally because I went with my family in April of 2023 and came back on the air and talked about it as soon as it happened.

Like, what's going on?

This was right around the time where they added the trigger warning.

If you wanted to look at the national archive documents like our Declaration and our Constitution, you had to get a trigger warning because, you know, they're obviously in the Constitution, we didn't treat blacks as full citizens when we first were born, and that was rectified later.

Anyway, so

during that madness that the country was suffering, it infected our museums.

And Trump issued this executive order.

And they're now getting around to actually doing it, to going into the museums, taking a look at these exhibits and trying to clean them up.

And there's going to be interviews by Trump administration officials with all the curators of these museums.

And they don't like it, Stu.

They don't like that he took over the Kennedy Center and tried to de-wokeify it.

The awards that are now being given there, you cannot get if you're woke.

Trump said that personally.

And at the Smithsonian and the other museums, we are not going to let you DEI our history and re-examine every bit of it through your woke lens.

It's just not going to happen.

So there was an extraordinary exchange on CNN last night where Abby Phillip, who never misses a chance to bash the country's race relations and is part of the problem in creating bad ones,

had she jumped all over Jillian Michaels,

who it's been fun to watch.

I love Jillian.

She's coming out of her like liberal bubble and her journey is not yet complete, but she's kind of, she's over the past few years, she's really started to get it like wait a minute i think i've been really misled by my side and she's getting red-pilled like by the day she's awesome i love her but so she's on cnn on that panel and she tries to defend what trump's doing at the smithsonian and she's noticed too what i was just saying and here's how that went

we're now literally reviewing parts of american history and parts of american culture to make sure it comports with dear leadership

can we address some of those things that are in there because have you looked at some of the things that are being relevant

Yeah, slavery was a bad thing to talk about.

Okay.

He's not white-washing slavery.

He's not.

He's not.

No,

he's not.

And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race.

Which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.

Do you know that only less than 2% of white Americans own slaves?

But it was a system of white supremacy.

Do you know that slavery is thousands of years old?

White people were so slow.

Do you know who

the first race technique ends slavery?

What are you saying is incorrect by saying that it was white people oppressing?

Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad.

And that's just not the truth.

There's one called Change Your Game has been an installation there.

Is gender testing fair in sports?

Does that, and then it goes on to talk about how it's complex to do gender testing in sports.

It's not complex.

It's basic science.

So

it's been completely captured.

First of all, I don't don't know.

And it's totally paid.

First of all, we don't have time to litigate.

Of course we don't, because then it'll budget the argument.

And now everything is racialized, just like you're trying to do to me now.

Good for her.

Thoughts on it?

Yes.

That was awesome.

Yeah, that's, I mean,

it's a complicated picture when it comes to trying to just blame slavery on one race.

It's just not true.

I mean, like, slavery has existed since the beginning of man, and it's a really terrible thing.

We all recognize it's a real stain on our history, and it is something that we should cover.

That's a really, really important thing that people understand about our country, largely because, number one, we were

one of the very first to rip ourselves out of that whole situation.

Thankfully, you know, we...

The only country that's fought a war to end slavery.

Yeah, right.

And that's something to be proud of.

And, you know, when you do something that is a stain on your history, correcting that stain is something that's really, really important and also part of your history.

Also, part of your history is, for example, the first draft of the Declaration of Independence.

There's a copy of it right across the parking lot from where I'm sitting at the Mercury One Museum, where they go deep into trying to end slavery before this nation even started.

It was something that was a high priority of Thomas Jefferson, of people who at the very beginning.

beginning of our nation looked to try to end it.

There was some opposition.

They wound up going in this situation to keep the original colonies together,

you know, and eventually

with a real, by the way, line to end it as soon as possible, which they eventually did.

You know, I think it is, you don't look at slavery and say, oh, well, we should justify it.

It wasn't that bad.

It was horrible.

It's one of the worst things that people do to other people, and they continue to do it to other people all over the world.

Right now,

it's still occurring.

So

this museum has become exactly what she was describing there.

It becomes this bizarre, sort of woke, left-wing self-punishment where you go in there and just think about how bad you are when in reality, we are the greatest nation that's ever been.

There's no apology for that.

The same thing that happens with capitalism, where we sit here and we say, oh, well, there's this problem with capitalism and there's this problem.

Of course there are problems with everything.

We can sit here and look at the problems of capitalism and try to make it better, but we should also acknowledge it's ripped billions of people out of poverty around the world.

It's one of the greatest things that humans have ever accomplished.

It's happened within our lifetime, and nobody notices because we're complaining about, you know, what statue is in some park in Alabama.

None of this,

it doesn't make any sense the way that we handle these things.

And I think what we should do is look at them with perspective.

Recognize that we've made mistakes, try to use those as examples of things to avoid forever, and learn the lesson of those things.

And Megan, one of the central lessons of slavery is we shouldn't judge people by the color of their skin.

And for the last, you know, certainly since the George Floyd situation in prominence, the left has tried to recreate a situation in which that's the way we run our society.

Everybody looks at each other and says, what skin color are you?

Okay, now we can judge what you can do, what colleges you can get into, what jobs you can get.

That was the sort of thing we were supposed to be running away from.

They're trying to push us back.

And I do think, at least since, I don't know, 2023 or so, we've made great progress moving the opposite direction.

But there is still a lot of work to do, as that clip shows.

No, it's amazing.

Like we went down, as I said, and we went to a bunch of the museums.

And what you get over and over again is like, okay, you know, they lean in.

They want to spend all the time on slavery and Jim Crow.

Like it's,

there's an emphasis on the worst pieces of of our past.

It's like they get off on it.

And then conversely, you see like a huge celebration everywhere you go of like women who did this, you know, like women, women who flew.

Women, it's like, that's okay.

We get it.

There were some women who did some great things and that's awesome.

I have nothing against women.

But let's be honest.

That's not the dominant story when we're talking about our country's history and flight.

You know, there are a couple who stood out.

We get it.

Amelia Earhart and some others.

But like, that's not the story.

But you, you wouldn't know that.

You know, like you go down and like, you've always got to be told, what black person did something?

What woman did something?

What gay person did something?

It's like, can we just know what, can we have the bigger picture, please?

Can we have like the story?

And maybe like a corner is devoted to what some minority participated in or how they contributed and try, try not to make the whole story about that because you feel the need to elevate or to center the conversation around some oppressed group.

That's what the Smithsonian has done.

And I really hope that Trump and his team take a hard look at it and do what they say they're going to do because it's unnecessary and it's pandering and it feels cheap and false.

All right.

Let's keep going.

Let's keep going.

I want to talk about Justice Millette because I said I would and it's such a good story.

So he is resurfacing Stu.

Not content to have suffered utter humiliation on a national scale.

And I told the audience this a week ago when we did a Long Kelly's court on what's about to happen.

Netflix is coming out with a new, quote, documentary, which is more like a mockumentary.

It's not a documentary.

This sounds like utter bullshit, what they're about to do, trying to rehabilitate Justice Millet.

They say they're just going to reframe the story in a way that you can decide what's real.

Okay, we've decided.

We know he was prosecuted criminally.

What he claims is that there's a videotape we've never seen before stew that's going to show that he was telling the truth all along and that he actually discussed said videotape on the eve of his trial with his lawyers.

But his lawyers said, oh, you know, we've kind of already settled on our defense.

We're not going to use that videotape.

Okay.

So they let him be tried and convicted, even though they had a silver bullet of a videotape showing he was telling the truth.

So now he's out there again, and he's making these claims publicly.

Hold on, let me just pull what he is saying so you can have the very, very latest.

This is the headline in Variety.

He slams Chicago PD Rahm Emmanuel, who was the mayor of Chicago at the time, as villains while denying that he committed a hate crime hoax and mounting a comeback.

My story, he says, has never changed.

Smollett names his quote villains as the two people who assaulted me.

Do you mean the two men you paid to assault you, the Osandario brothers, Jussie, the Chicago Police Department, and if I may be so brave, the mayor, he says.

He goes on to say, stand by,

flipping the page here.

Okay, this is from the Netflix documentary.

He, when asked why potentially, this potentially exculpatory evidence did not surface earlier, quote, to be honest with you, I don't really know.

I'm not an investigative reporter or a detective.

I can't sit and tell you exactly beat by beat what happened.

I can only tell you what did not happen.

And what did not happen is the story that's been out there for almost seven years that somehow I would have even a reason to do something as egregious as this.

Now, here is what actually happened per the two brothers who have gone on record with law enforcement and with the rest of the world as having been paid $3,500 by Jesse Smollett to attack him.

in this hoax.

They're on record.

Here they are in a Fox Nation documentary, which is a true documentary and literally one of the greatest things to ever hit the screen.

Here it is.

We made sure we got there at 2 a.m., sharp.

On the dot.

On the dot.

We had no phones because he did not want us to bring any phones.

He said, so we don't lose them.

I don't know if that's really the reason.

We waited here for about what?

Four minutes.

It was about four minutes.

Four minutes.

But it felt like forever.

Because it was cold as balls.

As we crossed the street, we said hey to get his attention

hey nick hey he turned around looked at us and that's when we started yelling uh the famous slurs he wanted us to yell hey aren't you that empire in this MAGA country and then he said what did you say to me and then that's when I threw the first punch at him

I held the blow because I didn't want to hurt him, of course.

So I made it look real, but I held it.

Then we started tussling moving moving around and then i threw him to the ground he wanted it to look like he fought back that was very important for him because he said hey don't just beat my ass make it look like i'm fighting back and whatnot so we did that and then conversation

and while after i threw him to the ground i he had no bruise i wanted it to look more real so then i threw him to the ground after i threw him to the ground i used my knuckle and gave him a noogie that's where i came around with the bleach the infamous bleach in the hot sauce bottle poured it on his shirt then i finally put the rope around his face i did not put it around his neck i just placed it on his face and that's when we so stupider why is netflix allowing this nonsense i don't know first of all how have i never seen that special before i have to go back and watch this uh it's incredible uh yeah i mean look it wasn't just these guys were too right like this there was a lot of evidence in this case that showed this is what happened.

Yeah, like, why is he why would he be writing a check to his own attackers?

It's very, very strange.

And why would he be out having a Subway sandwich in the middle of the very cold night at 2 in the morning?

Who knows?

I suppose Subway, you know, they've got an attack on an officer.

They've got the Jesse Somut thing coming back.

I suppose Subway is saying, at least they're not talking about Jared anymore.

At least how this is going to go in for us.

Let's not forget they're the most infamous crime associated with anybody touching Subway.

We don't even want to go there.

Supergear, I can't wait for the documentary to come out because I'm sure we're going to have a lot to say as we have with you today.

Thank you, my friend, for being here.

Thank you so much, Megan.

All right, we're back tomorrow with a deep dive on the truth on Russia Gate.

We are taking on the New York Times directly.

See you then.

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