Fake Theater Kids Booker and Markle, Adelson Guilty and Cardi B Wins, with Link Lauren, Dave Aronberg, and Jonna Spilbor | Ep 1142

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Speaker 17 Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.

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Speaker 23 Adelson found guilty on all counts.

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Speaker 33 But first, drama at the U.S. Open.
We got drama at the U.S.

Speaker 35 Open with tears, outbursts, anger, accusations of racism.

Speaker 24 We got drama in the NFL.

Speaker 27 There's sports drama.

Speaker 30 So who better to discuss it than yours truly and Link Lauren?

Speaker 40 I mean, because when you think sports,

Speaker 35 you think about the two of us, Link, the host of spot on with Link Lauren on the MK Media Podcast Network.

Speaker 5 I was laughing.

Speaker 35 I was like, I have to admit, I'm interested in these stories, but that's only because the sports stories have crossed over into my lane of news, which makes them fair game for me to discuss.

Speaker 53 But the two of us, we're like, oh, yeah, I want to get Link's thoughts on the NFL.

Speaker 54 We're like the least qualified people to discuss this, but it's perfect. Everybody strop in, get a drink, get ready.

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Speaker 17 I guess we'll just start with the NFL because that's the most recent thing that happened last night.

Speaker 64 It was my husband's Eagles against the Dallas Cowboys and the Eagles won.

Speaker 39 And

Speaker 47 here's what got my attention.

Speaker 73 My pal Greg Kelly was over on Newsmax, and I love Greg.

Speaker 75 We go way back.

Speaker 76 He was one of the, I think he was actually the very first guy I ever shared an office with at my very first day at Fox News back in August of 2004.

Speaker 76 So, good God, 21 years ago.

Speaker 75 Anyway, Greg's got it all.

Speaker 34 Former Marine, he was like with the troops as we went into Fallujah or

Speaker 14 into Iraq and he had the helmet on.

Speaker 79 Anyway, he's a badass.

Speaker 18 But he's on Newsmax and he has had it up to here with with woke NFL stuff.

Speaker 81 And I think he speaks for a lot of us because

Speaker 60 what I saw at the game was once again.

Speaker 26 Now we are five years post-George Floyd Apalooza.

Speaker 49 We had to begin the game with the black national anthem.

Speaker 86 We can't just have the national anthem.

Speaker 42 We have to have the lift every voice and sing anthem.

Speaker 24 special anthem just for black people, which is just so why?

Speaker 83 Why? Why?

Speaker 60 And then here was Greg Kelly weighing in on how he's had it up to here with the NFL in general.

Speaker 89 I can't stand the NFL. I'm boycotting football basically forever.

Speaker 90 They helped ruin this country. All right, they came pretty damn close during an election year.
They called for immediate change.

Speaker 90 I don't need it, and I don't think you do either. There are so many better things we could do with our time.

Speaker 65 Look, I like football the sport.

Speaker 92 I played it as a little kid on the Pee Wee League, you know?

Speaker 54 But

Speaker 90 what do we get out of it, really? You know, watching those guys get exercise, make money,

Speaker 90 get ahead in their lives, while we just sit there and watch them and bet our own money sometimes on it. I want out.
By the way, I don't trust it sometimes.

Speaker 90 Some of these Super Bowl games seemed almost rigged.

Speaker 90 And I'll tell you what's really phony, the Kelsey, Travis, Taylor Swift whatever the hell that thing is it is fake it is a strategy for I don't know what I don't care I don't know why why people would really care but I think it's a great big corporate project

Speaker 13 And here's what he was, what else he was calling attention to, this woke ad that the NFL put out in 2021.

Speaker 88 And he ran a bunch of Roger Goodell clips of him totally bending the knee after George Floyd apologizing to the players, forever chastising them for not standing for the national anthem.

Speaker 95 We were wrong.

Speaker 18 You know, he was one of those self-flagellating guys, and it's never stopped because even last night in the opening game of the season, Link, we had the, you know, they had these social justice messages in the end zone, like end racism.

Speaker 97 And they had one last night, which was, I think,

Speaker 21 it takes all of us.

Speaker 21 They're saving the end racism ones we just learned for all the international games, I guess, to lecture our friends overseas about how they too need to end racism.

Speaker 99 And it really is kind of amazing.

Speaker 72 We're still dealing with this utter bullshit five years after George Floyd.

Speaker 54 Well, what's interesting is I feel like the NFL is probably the least racist sport because you have so many black men making tens of millions of dollars and they're exceptional.

Speaker 54 So I don't see where there is racism in football. Maybe I'm naive.
I know I'm the whitest person on earth. I'm like Casper, so I'm not sure I'm in the best position to opine on this topic.

Speaker 54 But whenever I watch football, there are a lot of African-American men making millions of dollars supporting their families. And it's a merit-based sport.
That's what I love about it.

Speaker 54 They're not chosen based on skin color. They're chosen, can you run fast? Can you make a touchdown? Can you do this things that we cannot do here on screen?

Speaker 54 But it's merit-based, and that's what I love about it.

Speaker 54 And the thing about Black Lives Matter, the people still going with Black Lives Matter, So many of the black leaders in America have come out in the past two or three years and said, you know, I think that was kind of a scam.

Speaker 54 I think Black Lives Matter was actually a scam. Where did the money go? Did it do anything to help the black community? No.
And the last thing I'll say is this.

Speaker 54 The messages I get on social media from black people are, we are not a monolith. We're not monolithic.
Like every four years, the Democrats come around and they think that there's one black voter.

Speaker 54 They're like, no, we can vote for Trump this time. We can vote our best interests.
We can do what we want.

Speaker 54 So I'm not sure why these folks are still going with all the Black Lives Matter and racism stuff. Just let people watch football and have a good time.

Speaker 76 I know. What do they think they're doing?

Speaker 30 The country has had enough of this.

Speaker 47 It's such a pander.

Speaker 60 And I guess Roger Goodell thinks that like he's he's got to, I don't know, pander to his largely black teams.

Speaker 48 And so like, are they clamoring for this?

Speaker 50 Do they want to see this stupid it takes all of us meaningless message in the end zones?

Speaker 64 I'm pretty sure those guys just want to earn money and play football.

Speaker 82 And that with the you know passage of time, almost everyone has seen how stupid that whole thing was.

Speaker 38 You know, we're covering over, over, we're paving over all the BLM messages on the roads.

Speaker 101 Like, people are past it.

Speaker 80 We're over it.

Speaker 86 We're over the gender nonsense, the pronoun nonsense.

Speaker 33 Even AOC took her pronouns out of her Twitter bio.

Speaker 34 So does, so did Pete Buddigej.

Speaker 24 And we're over the stupid end racism, black national anthem nonsense in the NFL.

Speaker 101 It's like you're hanging by a thread.

Speaker 64 Why make it tougher on yourselves to get that last and very

Speaker 18 important segment of your audience back in your corner, which is Middle America.

Speaker 54 Exactly. And I feel like identity politics is so passe, but for these folks on the left and in the mainstream media, they're still on that bandwagon of five, ten years ago.

Speaker 54 We're not doing identity politics anymore, okay? We want a merit-based society. We want a merit-based administration, merit-based country, merit-based sports teams.
That's what we want.

Speaker 54 All of this identity. And of course, the same thing happens to me.
People say, because of how you are, you should think a certain way, vote a certain way, you should do this.

Speaker 54 Hell no, I'm going to vote for my best interest and do what I want. So I think all of the identity politics, whether it's black, Asian, gay, straight, fight, whatever, is all out of style.

Speaker 54 And I think these folks are just living in the past.

Speaker 34 Totally.

Speaker 25 Here is Outkick

Speaker 102 wrote this. Hold on a second.

Speaker 71 Where is it?

Speaker 32 Earlier in August.

Speaker 74 They said, this week, the NFL announced that for the sixth consecutive season, it would force the league's teams to display some sort of political social justice message behind the end zones.

Speaker 74 Bizarrely, five previous seasons of this performative gesture has not seemed to solve all of society's ills.

Speaker 18 But the NFL remains undeterred. This year will be the time that racists see the end racism message and decide to no longer be racists.

Speaker 29 Thank you, Roger Goodell.

Speaker 44 It's a good point.

Speaker 74 Like, what in the hell is the end racism message actually doing other than like all this performative BS, like land acknowledgements by the left, just making them feel superior or like they checked a box and they're good people.

Speaker 54 No, absolutely. I'm tired of the land acknowledgements.
I'm tired of the multiple national anthems, mainly because I just don't have that much of an attention span.

Speaker 54 I have to sit through multiple anthems and singing and performance. Let's do one national anthem and then let's get on with the game, okay? Let's get on with it and stop all the shenanigans.

Speaker 54 We don't need multiple national anthems. I also think, yes, there are people who are racist in this country, but when you travel across the country, a majority of Americans get along.

Speaker 54 They just want to pay their bills, feed their kids, take care of a loved one, have their their kids go to school and not get indoctrinated. People aren't that focused on each other in general.

Speaker 54 So all of this focus on racism to me is just a little bit ridiculous, especially at a sporting event. We have people of all different backgrounds and persuasions coming together under one roof.

Speaker 54 And sports is the number one unifier and equalizer. So why do you even need the in-racism message? So all of it's just a bunch of buffoonery to me.
It doesn't make any sense, but maybe it shouldn't.

Speaker 54 I'm not a big sports person. Who knows?

Speaker 32 Well, the NFL would never consider DEI amongst its players.

Speaker 80 Never.

Speaker 48 I mean, what are you going to have a bunch of like five-foot-five Asian men out there who weigh less than I do?

Speaker 49 You're going to have the Link Lawrence of the world. You're going to have the Megan Kellys of the world or the younger version running around.

Speaker 64 It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 85 We all know that.

Speaker 42 Same with the NBA.

Speaker 57 Like, you don't DEI those groups.

Speaker 18 You just got to DEI any sport that's dominated by, I guess, white people, which is just, all of it is just so fucked up and wrong.

Speaker 52 I'm a

Speaker 54 DI higher. I'm a DEI higher at MK Media because I'm also blonde, and there are a lot of blondes cropping up at MK Media.

Speaker 104 You have to be blonde.

Speaker 54 You have to be aggressive. That's okay.

Speaker 14 You do, and you have to be attractive.

Speaker 71 There's an attractiveness question.

Speaker 95 I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 71 I don't want to stare at unattractive people all day.

Speaker 47 Okay, there was some drama.

Speaker 32 I'm just raising this now because it's going to come back in our next chat, which is also sports.

Speaker 45 Also, sports.

Speaker 20 We're going to move on to tennis in a second.

Speaker 80 There was drama last night because there was a big player named Jalen Carter for the Eagles who got kicked out of the game, opening game of the season because he spat on

Speaker 39 another player.

Speaker 98 Let's see it.

Speaker 80 Do we have it? Yeah.

Speaker 35 Okay, so now here it starts with, you can see Carter, but it starts with the player for the Cowboys who's named Dak Prescott.

Speaker 48 He does like a little spit first.

Speaker 33 There's the big spit.

Speaker 17 We're going to replay it.

Speaker 33 Here's his spit.

Speaker 59 Here's the Cowboys spit.

Speaker 42 It's not exactly at the Eagle, but it's directionally at.

Speaker 25 And now here's the one by Carter that directly spat at the cowboy, getting him ejected from the game, Link Lauren.

Speaker 93 And I have to say,

Speaker 84 very poor showing.

Speaker 14 Poor Doug. I'm constantly razzing him about the Eagles because I'm still not over the fact they hired Michael Vick, dog torturer,

Speaker 32 who just did the most vile, terrible things to a bunch of dogs for a very, very long time. And I was never satisfied he was truly sorry.

Speaker 50 Um, but in any event, there they go again, behaving terribly, actually spitting on each other before the game starts, Lick.

Speaker 54 No, I know. As someone from Dallas, I think I'm a little bit embarrassed by all this, but yeah, no, there's something very homoerotic about it.

Speaker 54 I mean, what are these men doing, spitting on each other and getting each other's faces? If someone's gonna spit on me, you better buy me a drink first, okay? I want diamonds, okay?

Speaker 54 Like, if you're gonna spit in my face, please absolutely not. So, no, there's something very homoerotic and like Grecian about it, like, they're in the Parthenon.
I love it.

Speaker 54 I think more spitting and more bumping of the chest. I want to know what happened afterward.
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 81 That's like me at the TSA.

Speaker 69 I'm like a little dot, a little to the left, a little harder.

Speaker 54 Literally, the last time I was at the airport in Chicago, they pulled me aside. They're like, we have to go get a man because you're a guy.
We have to get a guy to pat you down.

Speaker 54 The most thorough pat down, I was like, oh my God, I haven't had this much affection in a while.

Speaker 54 There's just a lot of physical contact with this guy, this poor Hispanic man, who's like, and I'm like, I promise you, I promise you, I'm not a terrorist. Look, I think I'm good.

Speaker 54 And, you know, very thorough.

Speaker 28 The next trip to the airport, you're washing your hands in TNT, putting it all in your body.

Speaker 56 No, don't say that. Don't say that, people.

Speaker 48 Okay, so that's what happened in the NFL last night.

Speaker 20 By the way, the Eagles won.

Speaker 29 So go, birds.

Speaker 11 Now, tonight, Doug and I are actually going to the U.S.

Speaker 60 Open, and I'm really excited.

Speaker 34 We try to make it every year, at least every other year, if we can.

Speaker 71 It's in New York, which is close, and we're excited because we are big tennis fans, and it looks like we're going to see the match that has Yannick Sinner playing against a guy whose name I cannot pronounce.

Speaker 60 Going to be very exciting.

Speaker 110 Looking forward to the whole thing.

Speaker 111 But there has been some bad behavior in the headlines.

Speaker 64 in the U.S.

Speaker 14 Open over the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 74 And again, it was so controversial that it made it over into the news lane and caught my attention.

Speaker 17 Now, I love tennis, but I only know like the top, top people.

Speaker 14 You know, my husband knows all of them and my kids know all of them.

Speaker 18 There is a female player named Taylor Townsend, and she got into it

Speaker 70 with Helena Jelena, not sure how you pronounce it, Ostapenko.

Speaker 17 Ostepenko, I think she's Latvian.

Speaker 62 And Taylor Townsend's American.

Speaker 47 So I'm going to show you the interaction.

Speaker 49 It is relevant to what we're going to discuss.

Speaker 18 The American Taylor happens to be black.

Speaker 34 Asta Penko is white, and as I said, she speaks Russian, though this exchange is in English.

Speaker 32 And there was a second round match between the two of them last Wednesday where Astapenko got mad.

Speaker 110 And the reason she got mad, this was explained to me by very smart tennis people, is because she hit a ball.

Speaker 23 No, sorry, Taylor Townsend hit a ball to her and it hit the net and then kind of dinked in in a way that like no one could hit, you know what I mean?

Speaker 64 Which happens, which happens, and it's a fair point for Taylor Townsend.

Speaker 96 But typically, the protocol, like the etiquette around that, would be for the player who got that point, which is kind of a lame point.

Speaker 39 There's nothing wrong with the point, but it's kind of a lame point to say to the other player, sorry, sorry about that.

Speaker 42 You know, it's not, you're not really at fault at all.

Speaker 40 It's just a courtesy.

Speaker 64 Like, I know that one kind of sucked.

Speaker 100 It sucks when it happens to me.

Speaker 17 It sucked when it happened to you.

Speaker 48 It's like an etiquette thing.

Speaker 60 But Taylor Townsend did not do that.

Speaker 79 And Azte Penco was angry, and Azte Penco lost.

Speaker 93 So Azte Penco got in the face of Taylor Townsend.

Speaker 72 And I'm going to play the video.

Speaker 14 You can't totally make out the exchange, but I'll try to help us through it. Here we go.

Speaker 89 The opening sets of this one. No love loss between these two.

Speaker 32 You have to say sorry. No, I don't.

Speaker 69 The crowd's booing her.

Speaker 82 Oscar Penkel is giving Taylor an earful.

Speaker 71 She's giving it right back.

Speaker 45 Pointing, aggressive, looking, talking.

Speaker 64 She's pointing the finger in the face.

Speaker 60 Okay, now we, and she, she said to Taylor,

Speaker 28 you have no education.

Speaker 40 She said, you have no education.

Speaker 24 And she was mad that Taylor didn't say the, I'm sorry.

Speaker 71 You heard her kick it off by saying, you have to say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 93 And Taylor said, no, I don't.

Speaker 13 And then Taylor, at the tail end of that clip, went to the audience and was like, you know, with the arms, like, get it, let's get it going

Speaker 33 because it's a U.S.

Speaker 53 audience.

Speaker 35 It's, she's, it's her home court advantage.

Speaker 75 And then Ostapenko later suggested that that was like a misuse of the crowd.

Speaker 96 Now, my tennis sources tell me it's actually not a misuse of the crowd, that every player, when they're in front of their hometown audience, uses the audience to intimidate the opposite player.

Speaker 18 It's kind of, it's done in tennis.

Speaker 110 So Ostapenko really didn't have grounds to complain. It's like, too bad.

Speaker 26 You're an America.

Speaker 71 She's an American.

Speaker 23 But

Speaker 26 the you don't have education comment,

Speaker 21 of course, gets racialized by the loons.

Speaker 64 And unfortunately, This Ostapenko wound up being like, hey, I'm very sorry for that.

Speaker 55 In no way am I racist, nor did I mean that as a racist thing.

Speaker 20 She was meaning like educate yourself on the etiquette, right?

Speaker 93 And then Taylor Townsend had a great moment when she was asked to depress her, what do you make?

Speaker 20 She apologized, like, what do you make of it?

Speaker 23 And the thing to do, Link, was to say, I get it, tempers flare at these events.

Speaker 34 You know,

Speaker 32 it was a fair match.

Speaker 14 That was an annoying point.

Speaker 32 I hear her, you know, like, I'm glad I won, but no hard feelings.

Speaker 25 That's not how it went.

Speaker 73 Here is

Speaker 32 how it went. I think it's SAT 3.
Yeah, I think it's SAT 3.

Speaker 8 Oh

Speaker 68 Wait, yeah, no, sorry four four four four four

Speaker 113 That's nice that you know, she did that

Speaker 113 That she apologized

Speaker 113 I Mean that's fine. That's cool at the end of the day.
Um, I think that it's a learning lesson for her you cannot

Speaker 113 Push your expectations on other people. And that's ultimately what happened.
She expected for me to react a certain type of way, and I didn't. And it infuriated her,

Speaker 54 which

Speaker 113 led her to say things that are hurtful, that are belligerent, that are

Speaker 113 offensive, not only to me, but

Speaker 113 to the sport and to a whole culture of people that I try to do my best to represent the best that I can.

Speaker 113 But I really hope that from this, she can take that, like, hey, you can't control people, and it's better just to focus on yourself.

Speaker 114 Here's a little more from post-the-match, right after, right after the match that Wednesday.

Speaker 71 Taylor Townsend again saw three.

Speaker 54 For a lot of black people, hearing no education, no class would be interpreted, and rightfully so, as a dog whistle.

Speaker 54 Do you believe that that had racial undertones?

Speaker 113 I can't speak on what her intentions were.

Speaker 113 I can only speak on on how I handle the situation. And saying I have no education and no class.

Speaker 113 I don't really take that personally because I know that it's so far from the truth. And if I allow what other people have to say about me affect me in that way,

Speaker 113 then they win. I didn't take it in that way.

Speaker 113 But also, you know, that has been a stigma in our community of, you know, being not educated and all the things when it's the furthest thing from the truth.

Speaker 113 And the most, the thing that I'm the most proud of is that I let my racket top.

Speaker 32 She was so close, so close to not taking the bait.

Speaker 24 But she did take the bait.

Speaker 14 And then as I played you a day later, after there was an actual apology, she took it even more.

Speaker 41 So what do you make of it, Link?

Speaker 54 Well, it's interesting, I didn't know higher education was a requirement to play sports. Like is Serena Williams and Minsa? Probably not.

Speaker 54 I think there are plenty of athletes who can't spell mom backwards. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 17 Most tennis players don't even go to college.

Speaker 59 They go right to the pro leagues.

Speaker 54 Nor should they. Go play.
Come on. I've seen challengers on Amazon.
So, no, I don't think higher education is a requirement to play in sports. Also, I know plenty of white people without class.

Speaker 54 Hello, I've been to my family reunion. So these people saying, oh my God, you have to have class and education.
And it's a racial comment.

Speaker 54 No, there are black, Asian, Hispanic people of all different backgrounds who I would say have no class. So I don't think that's necessarily a racial comment in the heat of the moment, especially.

Speaker 54 So, you know, she says she let that racket talk. So that racket talked, I guess.

Speaker 40 She says you have no education and you have no, you know, class.

Speaker 14 And to me, it was, and Asta Penko has got a like a long list of bad behavior on her resume.

Speaker 13 So, I make no excuses for her bad behavior, like just her general cantankerous nature.

Speaker 24 But I'm just saying to racialize that comment, to say to you, like you can't say to a black player that you, you lack education, you lack class in this context in which you're complaining that she failed of a moment of basic etiquette.

Speaker 59 That's what she's saying.

Speaker 33 You failed to say you were sorry about the shot.

Speaker 28 Everything has to be racialized.

Speaker 45 You know, they're just, and of course you heard the reporter there teeing it up.

Speaker 57 There was another exchange where a reporter teed it up to Naomi Osaka.

Speaker 99 Didn't you think it was racist?

Speaker 21 And, you know, of course, she's like, yeah, it was racist. Like

Speaker 47 there are just, it's like, especially the younger crowd, Link.

Speaker 25 Your crowd

Speaker 48 loves to racialize

Speaker 70 everything.

Speaker 54 Yeah, no, I think maybe she's going for like an NAACP Image Award or something.

Speaker 54 She's going to make the rounds on all the shows, but I think this is what people want to see when they go to sporting events. Like, I don't think Alec and Alaria Baldwin are going to like keep up.

Speaker 54 Oh, is this love? Is this this? Did they make a point? They're going to see some drama and action. That's part of why people go.
It's part of why people tune in.

Speaker 54 And the guys get into fights all the time. They smash things.
They get in each other's faces. I don't see what the big deal is.
You know what? You exchange some words. Move on.
Get over it, everybody.

Speaker 54 Let's all grow up. Everyone's so sensitive these days, too.
Have you noticed that, Megan? Everyone is just so sensitive. Everyone's a little crybaby.
They can't take criticism.

Speaker 54 They wear everything on their chest. It's just like, get over it.

Speaker 52 Grow up.

Speaker 85 I know.

Speaker 85 I know.

Speaker 60 Well, one of the players I really like is Medvedev, Daniel Medvedev.

Speaker 14 He's Russian. They don't show the Russian flag when the Russian players play.

Speaker 14 Like on the screen, they have no flag.

Speaker 64 It's so dumb because of the Ukrainian war.

Speaker 26 Like, it's just a man without a country.

Speaker 18 You know, we just have to wonder where he's from.

Speaker 43 It's like, oh, that'll teach Putin.

Speaker 28 Oh, ha ha, he's going going to withdraw the troops tomorrow.

Speaker 17 Once he sees you're not showing Medvedev's flag when he's out there.

Speaker 18 It's so dumb. But anyway, he's a great tennis player.

Speaker 74 We saw him a couple years in the finals a couple years ago.

Speaker 34 He's great.

Speaker 60 And he's had a couple of struggles the past season.

Speaker 18 And he was mad at this umpire because what happened was he was in a match and a photographer walked on the court, like not in the middle of them, but like on the court.

Speaker 63 And

Speaker 68 the umpire was like to Medvedev's opponent, he goes, You can take us, take another serve.

Speaker 95 Like that, that serve you just took while the photographer was walking on the court won't count against you.

Speaker 87 And

Speaker 17 he did not, Medvedev did not like that.

Speaker 23 He wound up yelling at the empire, umpire.

Speaker 102 Here it is in SOT 8.

Speaker 54 Wait, please, not now.

Speaker 115 Get off the court, please.

Speaker 116 Looks like a photographer had just

Speaker 116 first serve to the court.

Speaker 115 Ladies and gentlemen, because of the delay caused by an outside interview,

Speaker 14 he's telling the crowd to make noise.

Speaker 82 He's mad that the guy's getting another serve.

Speaker 119 He gets banged by the match, not by the hour.

Speaker 119 What did Rylia Pilka say? What did Raliopilka say? What did Rylia Pela? Let's play.

Speaker 26 So he's very mad saying this ump gets paid by the match, not by the hour. He wants to go home, trying to get the crowd riled up.

Speaker 120 And then later, Medvedev lost and smashed his racket.

Speaker 36 Here it is in V2.

Speaker 20 Let's watch it.

Speaker 70 Stand by.

Speaker 98 Video two.

Speaker 69 Do we have it?

Speaker 54 There it is.

Speaker 30 He's sitting and smashing it.

Speaker 86 To me, that seems phoned in, Link.

Speaker 108 I don't know.

Speaker 101 If you're going to smash, shouldn't you stand?

Speaker 54 I mean, I'm down the middle on this one. As an influencer, content is content.
I've stumbled onto some fields before, and some, you know, you got to get a picture.

Speaker 54 So I can't hate the photographer too much, but also maybe he should have gotten another serve, right? If a photographer is going on the court, I called it the field.

Speaker 54 If the photographer is going on the court, you know, you might want to get another serve. But yeah, no, smashing the racket.
Like I said, this is what we want to see from these gladiators.

Speaker 54 And they have like 15, 20 rackets. They smash those things on purpose.
Serena Williams has done it.

Speaker 54 Wasn't it a few years ago Serena Williams got into it a little bit or there was a big emotional moment? This is what people want to see. This is what sports is about for thousands of years.

Speaker 54 So I don't know why everyone's acting so precious this year. Come on, let's get some drama.
I'm

Speaker 99 the greatest.

Speaker 14 The greatest moment ever.

Speaker 26 I think we have a cut.

Speaker 76 If we have a cut, could you bring it over?

Speaker 14 It's when Serena Williams yelled at that little line umpire, the the little line judge.

Speaker 56 Even I know that.

Speaker 60 And I think she said she was going to like, I think if Memory Service was like, I'm going to fucking kill you.

Speaker 32 It was like an actual threat.

Speaker 8 And the little lady was like, oh, she pitter-pattered down the court to the main umpire in the big chair, like, oh, oh.

Speaker 52 She said she's going to be a creature.

Speaker 106 No.

Speaker 54 Serena could break me with like her pinky finger. I'm not crossing Serena.

Speaker 56 Hell no.

Speaker 100 Absolutely.

Speaker 68 So it's, well, I don't think this is, I mean, like,

Speaker 71 he got fined for both of those incidents for yelling at the the chair umpire and then for smashing his wreck.

Speaker 17 And I agree, I agree with you.

Speaker 81 Like, it's not good behavior.

Speaker 74 It's not like it should be encouraged, but the anger on the court in response to a bad call, I think, is like understandable.

Speaker 17 We can't have threats.

Speaker 25 It's true.

Speaker 26 We shouldn't have threats.

Speaker 20 That's excessively bad behavior.

Speaker 120 We've got more.

Speaker 8 Speaking of sports, oh, Naomi Osaka's back.

Speaker 41 Miss, I need my own mental health room and a mental health break.

Speaker 17 And I can't be asked about why I'm not as good on clay because that messes with my mental health.

Speaker 106 She's back.

Speaker 28 She's making a comeback.

Speaker 24 She had a baby.

Speaker 114 She took some time off for her mental health.

Speaker 86 And now she's doing well.

Speaker 74 She was on her way to potentially the finals of the U.S.

Speaker 71 Open, but she lost last night. But it came to my attention that just one month ago, less than on August 8th at the Canadian Open, she made it to the finals there.

Speaker 18 And when she lost in the finals to Canada's Victoria Boco,

Speaker 13 Here's what she said in SAT 8B.

Speaker 13 Thanks, I guess.

Speaker 123 I don't really want to take up too much time, so I'll just say thank you to everyone.

Speaker 123 Thank you to my team. Thank you to the ball kids.
Thank you to the organizers and all the volunteers.

Speaker 54 And I hope you guys had a good night.

Speaker 67 Noticeably missing from the list of those she thanked was her opponent, who totally looked up to her and said that Naomi was like a real role model to her.

Speaker 26 She did not get thanked.

Speaker 71 She starts it with thanks, I guess.

Speaker 26 And once again, proves that when the spotlight is on her, she really can't handle the pressure very well.

Speaker 47 Now, I will say last night she did better.

Speaker 84 So keep it rolling, Naomi.

Speaker 15 If you continue losing, show that grace.

Speaker 26 If you continue winning, even better, show that grace even more so.

Speaker 99 But this is the woman who we have to thank for now.

Speaker 14 There having to be mental health rooms at all the tennis venues so that individual players can go with their little mental health guru, you know, like Jennifer Anderson's boyfriend, to be told they're smart enough, they're good enough, and gosh darn it, people like them.

Speaker 54 Yeah, absolutely. I don't know what's with all these people who need to be coddled going into careers in the public eye.

Speaker 54 Like, if you know you're someone who can't handle the heat and can't take the limelight, why are you pursuing a career at major, major in the public eye?

Speaker 54 But Naomi Osaka, as someone who doesn't even follow sports that closely, anytime I see clips of Naomi Osaka, she's kind of a downer.

Speaker 35 She's kind of downer. Yes.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Meh, I don't know.

Speaker 54 So, you know, that's really no shock to me for Naomi Osaka. I don't know much about her except those moments where she's being kind of a downer.

Speaker 17 Yeah, no, that's exactly right. I'll say,

Speaker 14 when Jokovich played his last match, he played it against an American, Taylor Fritz.

Speaker 79 And so the crowd was totally with Fritz, even though they love Joker, as they call him.

Speaker 17 This was, you know, it was about backing the American.

Speaker 14 We haven't had an American man in the finals, I think, since 2003.

Speaker 32 Is that the stat?

Speaker 71 Something like that.

Speaker 74 So they really wanted Fritz to win, and he was losing to Novak.

Speaker 41 And the crowd was booing him, and they were rough, and they were cheering his faults.

Speaker 71 And that's considered bad form, too.

Speaker 28 And Novak, to his credit, got out there and started giving the crowd a hard time.

Speaker 18 You know, like he started waving his arms at the crowd.

Speaker 60 He was going to the ump, like saying, kind of get them in charge in control.

Speaker 33 You know, like this is supposed to be an elite tennis match.

Speaker 93 I think that's fine.

Speaker 35 Give it right back, right?

Speaker 53 Like take it like a professional athlete.

Speaker 84 Don't cry in your soup.

Speaker 70 Don't mope around.

Speaker 75 Don't complain about the crowd after the fact, like they were the reason you lost.

Speaker 57 You know, give it right back to them. Like, oh, yeah, how do do you like me now?

Speaker 34 Which is exactly what he did.

Speaker 32 It shows the mark of a true athlete.

Speaker 25 Okay, last one.

Speaker 99 Venus Williams is back in

Speaker 37 the tournament.

Speaker 14 She's, she, of course, she was one of the best in the world, but now she's gotten older, and so she hasn't been playing, but she's back.

Speaker 47 And she was asked an important question by independent journalist Nicholas.

Speaker 64 It says his last name is Ballsy.

Speaker 32 I, that one wonders whether that's a real name or this is a plant.

Speaker 23 Either way, I'm in favor of it.

Speaker 25 Here's how that works.

Speaker 54 What's his number? I'm just just kidding.

Speaker 56 Just kidding. Satan.

Speaker 8 How are you?

Speaker 54 Do you have an opinion on biological men playing at women's sports? Any thoughts on that?

Speaker 114 No, no thoughts on it.

Speaker 60 Once again, she's failed to say anything about it. She's a leader now.

Speaker 34 She's an elder stateswoman.

Speaker 18 She's totally in a position to set the right tone on this.

Speaker 72 As I have to say, a woman with whom I have absolutely no agreements on anything political, Martina Navratarola, I disagree with her on everything except for this one issue,

Speaker 111 where she has spoken out about it, but Venus Williams could not find the courage.

Speaker 26 Shame on her.

Speaker 54 No, it's funny. These celebrities are still scared of the cancel culture and the cancel mob.
It's like, no, come on over. The water's warm over here.

Speaker 54 A majority of Americans don't think we should have men and women's sports, but I think they're so scared of getting canceled. Maybe they'll lose sponsorships.
We see this all the time.

Speaker 54 but they need to understand a majority of Americans don't want men and women's sports and you guys look ridiculous.

Speaker 54 And shame on these women who have big platforms, especially in sports, and they're not using them to condemn this. Why are you not using your platform?

Speaker 54 You could open yourself up to a whole new audience.

Speaker 54 It's like when Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala because she was, you know, couching Kamala as the savior of women who was going to protect women's rights.

Speaker 54 Kamala wanted open borders, men and women's sports, abortion to the last minute. So I just don't really understand some of these girls who come out on the wrong side of history.

Speaker 54 Open yourself up to a majority of the country who's here and being moderate and having common sense.

Speaker 65 Yes, it's a total missed opportunity to lead, to show courage.

Speaker 58 You know, there's more than just courage on the court when you're hitting the round yellow ball, Venus.

Speaker 74 This was another opportunity, and you blew it.

Speaker 14 I hope you rectify it along with Serena.

Speaker 64 Okay, now we started it off with the discussion of Taylor Townsend, this U.S.

Speaker 32 tennis star who doesn't like being told she lacks etiquette or education because she thinks that's a racial slur against her.

Speaker 14 There is another black woman who I want to discuss who absolutely does have education.

Speaker 26 She went to college, she went to a fancy high school, she went to a fancy college, she went to law school and practiced law for a couple of years, and now she's a U.S.

Speaker 18 Congresswoman, but apparently doesn't want us to see any of that in the way she actually behaves.

Speaker 98 Here is Jasmine Crockett on some terrible show involving the loser-fired Don Lamon

Speaker 71 and somebody else. Here we go,

Speaker 125 baby, because these people they are crazy because they always talk about how Christian they is.

Speaker 125 Yeah, I don't know how many of them on that side are getting divorced because they're getting caught up, sleeping with their co-workers, staffers, interns, all the things.

Speaker 125 Yeah, you ain't got to believe me. Just go Google.
You'll find some of it. I'm telling you, and the wives is being messy and petty.
They're putting it in the divorce.

Speaker 125 I'm like, oh, that's got to be true because your lawyer would know that they're going to lose it if they

Speaker 47 gonna lose it.

Speaker 104 Okay?

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 108 Thoughts, Link, on the reinvention of Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 54 We need a new drinking game and don't drink and drive, but every time Jasmine Crockett unveils a new accent, take a shot, okay? You will be blotted in about five minutes because she unveils new

Speaker 54 accents every five minutes. Yeah, exactly.
She unveils new accents all the time. And she wants us to forget that she used to speak like this very educated young woman.

Speaker 54 She used to speak like Eliza Johnson.

Speaker 56 Wait, we have it.

Speaker 52 Here.

Speaker 35 Listen to her here.

Speaker 86 Said 19.

Speaker 104 My mind, I'm thinking, I just got to Austin and I had to beat five people to get here.

Speaker 6 I don't know about this.

Speaker 104 You know, the congressional seat is over four times as large as my house seat. That if you really want to make real change, you really need to consider it.

Speaker 20 Wait, we've got to hear Saad 18 again.

Speaker 17 Wait, just now replay Saad 18.

Speaker 125 Maybe because these people, they are crazy because they always talk about how Christian they is.

Speaker 125 Yeah, I don't know how many of them on that side are getting divorced because they getting caught up sleeping with their co-workers, staffers, interns, all the things.

Speaker 125 Yeah, you ain't got to believe me. Just go Google.
You'll find some of it. I'm telling you, and the wives is being messy and petty.
They putting it in the divorce.

Speaker 125 I'm like, oh, that's got to be true because your lawyer would know that they going to lose it.

Speaker 35 What's with the refusal to have subject verb agreement?

Speaker 78 How is that cool?

Speaker 54 So like I said, we need a drinking game when she unveils a new accent. Take a shot.
She also reminds me of that Steve Martin Queen Latifah movie, Bringing Down the House.

Speaker 54 Like, she's so stereotypical, and she's playing into these stereotypical tropes. I guess she's trying to play to the lowest common denominator, but she's a fraud.

Speaker 54 She's fraudulent, like many Democrats, like Corey Booker. They're just these overgrown theater kids.

Speaker 54 As a recovering theater kid, like Kamala, game-nose game, because I'm a recovering theater kid, so I'm the perfect person to call you out.

Speaker 54 But if you look at old clips of Jasmine Crockett, she used to speak like Eliza Doolittle. The rain in Spain falls gently on the plane.
Like she was very prim and proper.

Speaker 54 Now Jasmine Crockett's like, this mouth fall cracker like a jacket name booka back a backup. Like what happened to Jasmine Crockett? She has totally been body snatched.

Speaker 54 And then Jasmine Crockett, my thing is this, I wouldn't even care that she wants to do the fake accents and like she's auditioning for Bad Girls Club or Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Speaker 54 I wouldn't care at all if her district was up and running perfectly.

Speaker 54 As someone from Dallas, people message me all day long, friends from high school, friends from childhood saying, oh my god, I live in Jasmine's district. This business is shuttering.

Speaker 54 We don't ever hear from her, we don't ever see her. So, I would overlook all of that if she had some hallmark accomplishments and achievements.

Speaker 54 But she's busy filming TikToks, dancing down the hallway because, like all Democrats, they don't want to work, they want to twerk and they want to film videos and dance and break out into song.

Speaker 54 I don't think we're even going to have to talk about Jasmine Crockett in a year or two. I don't think she has a future in politics whatsoever.
I think she's done.

Speaker 10 I think she's done.

Speaker 68 Can I hear that imitation one more time?

Speaker 54 That's what she does. It's like literally like big bird.
It's like this big bird. She's auditioning for reality show.

Speaker 54 She, if anyone has Andy Cohen's number, Andy Cohen, you need to reach out to Jasmine Crockett,

Speaker 54 Liberal Housewives of Potomac or DC, whatever it is. I think she'd be amazing on there.
But in Congress, no. And her people in her district, they're not happy with her either.

Speaker 54 So she can blame, oh, they're gerrymandering, they're pushing me out. It's like, no, you probably wouldn't win again anyway, because you're a failure.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I mean, not to mention she's a bully, just read the New York Post, she denied it.

Speaker 14 But I mean, there was all sorts of eyewitness testimonials from current and former staff saying what a bully she is.

Speaker 26 Marjorie Taylor Greene was here telling me about how she's got some guy she uses who follows her around to carry her big handbag who to put her pillow behind her back.

Speaker 47 She thinks she's she thinks she is Queen Latifah, actually.

Speaker 61 That maybe that's what she's going for, an actual queen, though.

Speaker 105 Um, all right, now you mentioned Corey Booker.

Speaker 54 I've got to go to the beginning around in like a motorcade, anyway.

Speaker 56 Yes, yeah,

Speaker 44 it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 24 Um, we've got to get to Corey Booker.

Speaker 96 Corey Booker

Speaker 21 claims that he just got engaged to a woman.

Speaker 87 And

Speaker 86 the photos posted online are truly like the fakest things I have seen in a long, long time.

Speaker 34 Like they are the most over the top.

Speaker 34 Every photo for the listening audience is him with a beautiful looking Hawaiian gal.

Speaker 111 She looks Hawaiian.

Speaker 14 They have the Hawaiian leis on.

Speaker 29 He's carrying her the huge, huge smile.

Speaker 18 Like you couldn't even make yourself smile as large as these two are smiling in every shot.

Speaker 11 We're happy.

Speaker 44 We're in love.

Speaker 80 Yes, we are.

Speaker 52 We're hetero.

Speaker 52 So

Speaker 13 your thoughts on his alleged engagement to a woman.

Speaker 54 Looking at Corey Booker's engagement photos, I think the only thing faker than those photos is her orgasm later tonight. I think that's probably what's going to be a lot faker than those photos.

Speaker 54 And like you said, why are their mouths so big? How did he find someone else in life who has a mouth as big as his? It should be like an advertisement for Subway.

Speaker 52 Everything. Yes.

Speaker 54 It's like an advertisement for Subway. You can fit like a whole foot long in there.
You could do like a whole veneer advertisement with those things. Massive, massive, massive teeth.

Speaker 56 The whole thing's here.

Speaker 64 Here, they look like someone's hurting them.

Speaker 36 Someone's like sticking a dagger in their bellies here.

Speaker 33 It's like you could easily caption it.

Speaker 25 No!

Speaker 54 Oh, help us.

Speaker 54 Well, also, in the announcement, Corey Booker referred to her as his partner. I am tired of the word partner.
Okay, unless we're going to the U.S. Open, I don't want to be called a partner.

Speaker 54 You know what I'm saying? I'm either a boyfriend or a husband. We're not playing pickleball.
And men and women, y'all know in the comments what I'm talking about.

Speaker 54 Years ago, men invented this word partner to kind of skirt responsibility. They knew they kind of had to move out of the girlfriend zone.

Speaker 54 They didn't want to really commit to getting the ring and getting engaged. So it's like, this is my partner.
This is, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 54 We need to let go of this whole partner nonsense y'all are either boyfriend girlfriend or your husband and wife we're not doing this little intermediary like we're braiding each other's hair and being partners and gavin newsom does the same thing too another elite democrat which is an oxymoron.

Speaker 54 But Gavin Newsom uses the term too. He called his wife, Jennifer Sybil Newsom, his partner, the first partner of California.

Speaker 54 This woman's given you multiple kids and she can't even get upgraded to wife. You can't even call her your wife.
You're like, this is my partner.

Speaker 54 It's like we're in like Brokeback Mountain or the Wild West or something. You can't even get called a wife.
So I'm tired of all these Democrat, liberal, beta males referring to people as partner.

Speaker 54 We're done with the word partner. I will say I'm always going to root for love.
I don't want to wish any ill will on Corey Booker. I hope they make it down the aisle and to the wedding night.

Speaker 54 But I think he's just setting himself up to run in 2028. And he doesn't have a prayer.
I mean, he was an abject failure in 2020.

Speaker 54 He's all he's done, I think, is filibuster for 25 hours on the Senate floor. He has no achievements whatsoever.

Speaker 54 So the one thing I'll say, though, too, I know I'm filibustering right now, but when I look at these men like Corey Booker, when I look at folks like Chris Murphy, these male senators, right, I hope they don't have daughters because they support men and women's sports.

Speaker 54 They support the transing of kids, they support open borders, they support all these policies that are detrimental to young women's lives, right?

Speaker 54 They want to basically eradicate women and all these rights they've apparently fought for for decades.

Speaker 54 So I hope Corey Booker doesn't have a daughter, and I hope all these Democrats come to the realization you guys are going to have to support these young girls in the classroom, in the locker room, and on the sports field, or I don't think you should be parents.

Speaker 54 And Gavin Newsom is the same way. He was going to come down on the side of, you know, I don't think it's fair to have men and women sports.

Speaker 54 Now he's fighting with the DOJ to keep men and women sports in his state. And he has daughters.
So shame on all of these men, honestly, as parents.

Speaker 61 I just want to say apropos of absolutely nothing.

Speaker 23 I love gay men.

Speaker 14 I have a lot of gay friends in my life.

Speaker 32 But if you are a gay man, you should not marry a woman.

Speaker 23 You should not marry a woman.

Speaker 30 I don't care what the reasons are because of your parents, your religion, your your political ambitions.

Speaker 13 You know, I'm just saying this at random.

Speaker 14 Do not marry a woman and do not have kids with the woman.

Speaker 60 Be honest about who you are and follow your true path because you leave a lot of carnage in your wake when you make a choice like that.

Speaker 26 And it's very unfair to the woman and to the children you're planning on having with her.

Speaker 28 Just don't do it.

Speaker 34 Don't do it.

Speaker 97 A political future is not a good reason.

Speaker 20 to do such a thing.

Speaker 101 Okay, that's apropos of nothing.

Speaker 45 We've got to talk about Megan Markle.

Speaker 99 She's out with her big season two

Speaker 21 of With Love Megan, which is really such a fake season two.

Speaker 82 I said this as soon as they announced it.

Speaker 99 She had just shot extra episodes, and in order to save face, when season one got panned, she said, oh, renewed for a second season.

Speaker 53 Where really they're just releasing the extra episodes.

Speaker 28 It's very obvious.

Speaker 47 You're so dumb.

Speaker 28 We're not all as dumb as you think we are.

Speaker 33 Here she is.

Speaker 34 I just want to start with this video.

Speaker 24 It's video five, V5, where she is cooking.

Speaker 71 This is actually posted on her Instagram as like a promo for her show on August 19th.

Speaker 53 She is cooking and she is wearing thousands of dollars worth of jewelry to promote her.

Speaker 69 We can all relate to each other video or cooking and home, you know, Martha Stewart type show.

Speaker 34 Link. That's what she thinks we're going to relate to.

Speaker 98 Somebody calculated it up, but it was literally tens of thousands of dollars that she's wearing just on her hands here and her outfit.

Speaker 34 And then she decides to be super relatable.

Speaker 36 She's known as a bully, speaking of bullies.

Speaker 18 She's bullied so many people out of jobs, according to the Daily Mail and her biographers. And who does she invite on as one of her big celebrity guests?

Speaker 29 Known bully Chrissy Teigen, who she's bullied countless people online.

Speaker 74 She's had to apologize for bullying a 15-year-old.

Speaker 83 She's absolutely ruthless.

Speaker 29 So she decides two bullies get together and met, and Chrissy Teigen, yet another super relatable star who's allegedly one of her great friends, gets on there and cannot even remember her own children's birthdays.

Speaker 44 Here's the top 30.

Speaker 126 Tattoo of their birthdays, because I don't remember.

Speaker 54 Sweet. Yeah.

Speaker 122 So April 14th, May.

Speaker 62 She's had a tattoo.

Speaker 56 Is it 16 or 18?

Speaker 54 Oh, no.

Speaker 117 18th.

Speaker 54 Oh, no. That's.

Speaker 127 John. Thank you.

Speaker 54 Is it

Speaker 54 Rhett?

Speaker 118 Or no? Who's this? Miles.

Speaker 56 It's May.

Speaker 71 She's asking her husband John Legend when their child was born.

Speaker 32 It's just, yeah.

Speaker 56 Yeah, it's a a little blurry.

Speaker 54 It's all right.

Speaker 56 All right.

Speaker 54 You got a husband and a tattoo to help you stay on top of all the things.

Speaker 20 I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 She's an idiot. Chrissy Teigen is truly an idiot.

Speaker 14 Megan Markle's not an idiot, but Chrissy Teigen is an idiot and 100% a bully brat.

Speaker 54 No, and speaking of the jewelry, you know, over at the Spot on Bureau, we adhere to the facts. We did our own calculations.
I've been telling people it's like $327,000 worth of

Speaker 54 I think it was like hundreds because it was like 200 and something thousand pounds. We calculated it.
You know, we're not in Minsa either, so higher education.

Speaker 54 But yeah, no, I've been telling people it's hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry.

Speaker 54 And who doesn't cook and hair extensions and makeup and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry?

Speaker 54 But no, the thing with Megan Markle is all of her A-list friends and acquaintances, they have dropped her like a hot potato. Like Oprah wants nothing to do with her.

Speaker 54 Tyler Perry wants nothing to do with her. Ellen and Portia, they want nothing to do with her because they're career people.
They're going to put their careers first.

Speaker 54 Megan Markle, she's basically Persona non grata and her projects fail. Her projects fail time and time again.
It's embarrassing. And this cooking show, there's no cooking.

Speaker 54 We tuned in to watch the first few episodes for research. I'm a martyr.
I'm a masochist. I suffer for the audience.
But we tuned in to watch With Love Megan.

Speaker 54 She was doing like water marbling, arts and crafts, making flower arrangements. Then she took vegetables and fruits and dipped them in paint and put them on aprons.

Speaker 54 Like it was like watching a woman in an insane asylum, but they're letting her kind of do arts and crafts where she can't hurt herself. They're like, okay, let her kind of paint with her fingers.

Speaker 54 Let her do some flower arrangements. But there's also a Truman show element where we all know she's kind of nuts and cuckoo cachoo, but she's not in on the joke really.
Like it's the Truman show.

Speaker 54 We're watching her. And even the people Megan has come over to cook in the kitchen, they're kind of looking at her too in a funny way.
And she made a comment in one of the early episodes.

Speaker 54 She said something, nobody answered. Five minutes later, she tries to crack a joke and she goes, oh, nobody's laughing.

Speaker 54 Even the people over there were like, what are are we doing at this rented mansion? Like, making, you know, pretzels or whatever. Like, it was insane to me.

Speaker 54 So, no, Megan Markle, she's a crazy woman, she's nuts. I think she's gonna have blonde hair in about 12 minutes because Catherine, the princess of Wales, just went blonde.

Speaker 54 She's always chasing something and chasing someone else. Like, Prince George was on the cover of People magazine.
They did a huge spread. He's gonna be king someday.
Look at George.

Speaker 54 What does Megan Markle do? She posts her little kids on the set of her Netflix show.

Speaker 54 So she's always trying to do kind of the knockoff sheen version of whatever the real royals are doing over in the UK.

Speaker 101 Desperate.

Speaker 34 She's desperate to be like, me too, me too.

Speaker 41 She

Speaker 34 also, like this permanent, this person who's supposed to be so relatable to us, like she, she's constantly like, you know, I'm just like you. I'm just like a regular working mom.

Speaker 80 I've got all she's got a craft barn on her property.

Speaker 30 She just goes out to her craft barn.

Speaker 60 You know, fellow moms out there, like you all had when you wanted to get like messy with your kids with paint and markers.

Speaker 28 We all had a craft barn to which we would retreat to preserve our home.

Speaker 58 Here's one more where Tan France of Izzy on Queer Eye

Speaker 71 shows up and mocks her in SOT 29.

Speaker 75 What was that, the Gucci's title?

Speaker 9 Flower sprinkles.

Speaker 56 I love them. Wow, that's the gayest shit I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 32 The gayest shit I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 111 Okay, she did the flower sprinkle thing in season one.

Speaker 28 There's nothing original here, Link.

Speaker 84 It's more recycled Pablum, which is being panned universally by the critics, by the way.

Speaker 54 No, absolutely. She really wants to be the next Martha Stewart, but what Martha Stewart has is authenticity.
I mean, the woman went to prison. She had an ankle bracelet, an ankle monitor.

Speaker 54 Megan Markle has nothing. She can't cook.
She can't clean. She can't do good flower arrangements.
All she's done is put like flower sprinkles on food. I feel like she's trying to poison people.

Speaker 54 And then we zoomed in on some of the pictures here at the bureau. We found that they were like bugs and insects and some of the flowers she was putting on her her food.

Speaker 54 So if you eat at Megan Markle's house, please be careful. It's like an episode of Survivor, like you're over in Cambodia or something eating flies and crickets.

Speaker 54 You're like swallowing crickets if you eat at Megan Markle's house. So be careful, everybody, going to Megan's house.
But no, I think she's someone like Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 54 We're not really even going to see her a year from now. I think she has no more deals.

Speaker 54 You can't buy her anything.

Speaker 18 Well, Harry's going to meet with the king next week trying to patch things up because their relevance has expired.

Speaker 36 So we'll see.

Speaker 60 Hopefully the king will not bend.

Speaker 23 I believe William won't bend, but you know, the king, it's different when it's your child.

Speaker 98 So, fingers crossed, he holds firm.

Speaker 99 Link, great to see you.

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Speaker 53 We've got a big Kelly's court today.

Speaker 64 A verdict in the Donna Adelson case we've been telling you about.

Speaker 60 Plus, rapper Cardi B is going viral for her courtroom antics.

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Speaker 76 Dave Ehrenberg and Jonna Spielboer.

Speaker 63 Gentlemen, lady, great to have you.

Speaker 127 Great to be here, Megan.

Speaker 13 Thank you. Awesome.

Speaker 121 This trial provided quite a bit of drama.

Speaker 53 And Dave, I mean, I know it's personal for you because you were friends with the victim.

Speaker 34 Just as a refresher for the audience who might not have been paying attention to it,

Speaker 50 the victim was shot and killed.

Speaker 87 He'd been married to a woman named Wendy Adelson, and they had two sons, and they lived in Tallahassee.

Speaker 77 And she really wanted to move down south in Florida to be closer to her mom

Speaker 68 and the husband didn't want it her mom Donna the woman who's on trial the husband did not want it that Daniel he said no I want to stay in Tallahassee where I'm a college professor and I don't want you to take our boys down there either and then the grandmother just received an unfavorable ruling from a judge up in Tallahassee saying

Speaker 68 either preventing her from seeing them unsupervised, but it was something limiting her ability to see the sons or her grandsons in the way she wanted.

Speaker 84 And before you knew it, the decedent, Daniel,

Speaker 80 Markel, was killed.

Speaker 14 He was murdered.

Speaker 26 And it turned out he was murdered by two hitmen. Two hitmen who were hired by this woman.

Speaker 56 And this woman had been dating/slash working part-time for the murder victim's wife's brother.

Speaker 63 So what the evidence has shown is that Wendy appears to have.

Speaker 13 She's been accused.

Speaker 71 She's the only one who hasn't been been formally charged.

Speaker 121 But it certainly looks like Wendy and definitely Wendy's mother, Donna,

Speaker 63 wanted Dan dead.

Speaker 34 And one of them, the jury has just said Donna,

Speaker 32 hired, went through her son, Charlie, who is the brother of Wendy, went through her son and said, go have Wendy's husband killed.

Speaker 34 So Charlie did it.

Speaker 71 Charlie had his girlfriend say, do you know any bad actors?

Speaker 14 She said, I know these two guys.

Speaker 41 They hired them. They killed him.

Speaker 34 And those two guys are in jail.

Speaker 14 One for life, the one who cooperated cooperated for 19 years.

Speaker 74 The woman who hired them, who'd been sort of dating the brother, she's in jail for life.

Speaker 34 The brother, Charlie, is in jail for life.

Speaker 67 And now, finally, the prosecutors turned around and they're not yet at Wendy, the wife.

Speaker 39 They went after the mom, Donna.

Speaker 18 And Donna just had a very bad day in court as the verdict was read.

Speaker 40 Here you go, SOP 46.

Speaker 128 We have a jury find as follows as the count one of the indictment first degree murder.

Speaker 128 The defendant is guilty of first degree murder.

Speaker 128 Mrs. Adelson, control yourself.

Speaker 128 Count two.

Speaker 128 We the jury find as follows as the count two of the indictment. Conspiracy to commit first degree murder.

Speaker 128 The defendant is guilty of conspiracy to commit first degree murder.

Speaker 128 Count three.

Speaker 128 We, the jury, find as follows as the count three of the indictment: solicitation to commit first-degree murder.

Speaker 128 The defendant is guilty of solicitation to commit first-degree murder.

Speaker 110 She's wailing and bending over and crying.

Speaker 128 And it is signed and dated by the four-person.

Speaker 128 One moment. Members of the jury, the bailiff will escort you to the jury room.

Speaker 100 All right, Dave, guilty on all counts.

Speaker 34 Donna Adelson goes down.

Speaker 68 Are you surprised?

Speaker 117 No, Megan, this was an easy one for those of us who filed the case.

Speaker 117 And the jury got it right in three and a half hours, which is about the same amount of time they took to convict Charlie, the victim's brother-in-law. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Speaker 117 Both of them were so cocky. They thought they can get away with murder.
And now they're both in prison for life. Next, you would think, would be Wendy, the ex-wife.

Speaker 117 You would, if I were Wendy, I would not be buying green bananas right now.

Speaker 8 You never know when

Speaker 117 Bibi Ribozo and Richard Nixon lying for those who are too young to realize that one.

Speaker 117 Wendy has, there's been a lot of focus on her, but it looks like the family tried to keep her out of it, but there is evidence against her.

Speaker 117 In fact, the prosecution tipped their hand and made this case a bit about Wendy. They showed evidence we didn't know before.
Like, for example, did you know that Donna,

Speaker 117 the now convicted mother-in-law, she had Danny, the victim's make model of his car and his license plate in her day planner from the year 2014, which was two years after the divorce.

Speaker 117 Why would the ex-mother-in-law have Danny's license plate in her day planner? And who would give that license plate information to her?

Speaker 117 Remember, the killers followed Danny from the gym, tailed his car, and then went up to him when he arrived home and shot him in the head. I knew Danny.
He was a great guy.

Speaker 117 No one deserves his fate, but when you know how Danny loved his kids so much, it just compounds the tragedy.

Speaker 18 Oh my gosh, that's a good point.

Speaker 30 And yeah, we learned some of these points because the defense...

Speaker 18 Donna's defense started to kind of point the finger at Wendy, which showed their desperation because so far the mother seems to have been running cover for Wendy.

Speaker 60 The mother appears to have killed for Wendy.

Speaker 71 I mean, and herself because she wanted more access to her grandkids.

Speaker 20 That's at least what the jury has said, that she's the grandmother of the two boys.

Speaker 18 She's the mother of Wendy. Donna went down.

Speaker 121 And it wasn't that tough, Jonna, because once we saw the video of Donna fleeing and the cops tracking her down at the airport and arresting her, it was like, who flees?

Speaker 60 I mean, I guess you could flee if you just thought you were going to be convicted and you were innocent, but the video was quite damning.

Speaker 127 Well, you know, who, who else, who wouldn't want a one-way ticket to Vietnam for a little R ⁇ R?

Speaker 127 You know, know maybe some uh some spa days there megan because her excuse was well that's why i was going i was going because i just needed to get away from all this media i didn't know when i was gonna come back so she buys a one-way ticket to a country with no extradition policy with the united states because she just wanted to relax nobody bought it the jury didn't buy it and that was you know obviously an attempt for her to get out of dodge and it's consciousness of guilt.

Speaker 127 And the jury was not fooled, I don't think, for a second by anything the defense put up. And can I, and I don't look, I don't like criticizing other attorneys, but what defense was there really?

Speaker 127 I mean, if you, if we reanalyze it now, there wasn't much of a defense.

Speaker 127 This was kind of a week long of just sort of shuffling along and hoping that some juror was going to have some sort of sympathy for this granny. And they obviously didn't.

Speaker 127 Not only didn't they, but they basically broke a land speed record and getting to a guilty verdict on all the charges.

Speaker 14 Yes, Ashley Merchant of Fannie Willis fame is also part of MK True Crime.

Speaker 76 And she was making this point.

Speaker 14 She was doing, she's, you know, like you guys, an active trial attorney and was making the point of how she would have cross-examined the state's investigator who did take the stand.

Speaker 14 This is, you got a law enforcement officer up there.

Speaker 34 Like that's a person through whom you can exploit weaknesses in the state's case.

Speaker 76 And she did a little diatribe on how she would have done it.

Speaker 34 Here it is, it's quick.

Speaker 112 SOT 40.

Speaker 129 We don't really have a theme. Why not ask, you know, isn't it true you don't have any physical evidence linking Donna Adelson to this crime? Isn't it true you don't have any forensic evidence?

Speaker 129 Isn't it true you don't have any eyewitness testimony? Isn't it true you don't have a confession? Isn't it true you don't have fingerprints? You don't have DNA. You don't have any of that stuff.

Speaker 129 Why not hammer him with that?

Speaker 25 That's not how it went in the end.

Speaker 64 And I will say, the defense attorney, Jackie Fulford, eh,

Speaker 42 well, I'll let the audience be the judge.

Speaker 112 Here's SOT 45.

Speaker 119 Not one single thing that said anything about wanting Danny Markell killed. The most aggressive thing they have are her foul words and wanting to aggravate him.

Speaker 119 This is not, could she possibly have done it?

Speaker 119 Could she probably have done it? Might she have done it?

Speaker 119 You have been sitting here hearing testimony for almost two weeks, and there's not a single piece of evidence that connects my client to that murder.

Speaker 2 Charlie Adelson? Yep.

Speaker 119 Potentially Wendy Edelson, she's the one who said she hated him.

Speaker 119 She's the one fighting with him in court. Donna Adelson, nothing.

Speaker 119 Not a single piece of evidence. You have to find her not guilty.

Speaker 48 because they have failed to do their job.

Speaker 66 The problem for her there, Dave, is that wasn't true.

Speaker 52 Right.

Speaker 117 I mean, you had a undercover conversation between

Speaker 117 Donna and her son after there was this bump. So they had this undercover officer essentially bump into Donna and demand money to take care of one of the killers.
This was an FBI agent.

Speaker 117 This was trying to generate chatter over the phone. The first thing she does is call her son Charlie, not

Speaker 117 a police, didn't throw away the paper. Nope, you call your son Charlie.
And when Charlie said, what's this about? She said, it's about the both of us.

Speaker 54 Wow.

Speaker 117 The FBI agent did not even mention Charlie in the conversation. It's about the both of us,

Speaker 117 meaning Charlie, who's been convicted of the murder. And so that's a confession.
That's direct evidence. And then, of course, you have the license plate.
And no, the lawyer is right.

Speaker 117 You don't have her saying, we need to kill Danny Markel. Let's kill him.
That's not how the real world works. She spoke in code the entire time.

Speaker 117 Who speaks in code, Megan, except for people who are guilty? Why speak in code? They kept using this phrase, the TV. That's how they referred to the murder.

Speaker 117 Ironically, it's the TV that was broken on the day of the murder that is Wendy's alibi. She had a TV repairman come over to fix her TV

Speaker 117 as if repairmen for TVs are really a thing.

Speaker 56 I mean, don't you spend any TV?

Speaker 14 No one does that. No one does that.
I know.

Speaker 23 Honestly, I've been poor and I've had money, and you don't call a TV repairman.

Speaker 14 It's not a thing.

Speaker 17 You lament the loss of your television and you suck it up and find a way to buy a new one.

Speaker 71 Here is the prosecutor making this point about talking in code. Contrary to the defense's argument that there's absolutely no evidence tying her to this crime, you're right.

Speaker 34 What innocent person sounds like this?

Speaker 122 This TV was probably about five.

Speaker 122 This TV.

Speaker 122 And look what he says. Well, they asked you for $5,000.
He decodes it.

Speaker 62 He's not the one talking in code.

Speaker 122 He's decoding it and saying what she's.

Speaker 131 He's picking up what she's putting down.

Speaker 126 There's no TV mentioned by the undercover operative that approached Donna Adelson on the street.

Speaker 122 Couple big takeaways for you, please. Innocent people do not talk in code.

Speaker 122 Second big takeaway, TV is code for the murder throughout this case.

Speaker 32 Okay, Jonna, she's making a good point, but it's very frustrating, right?

Speaker 71 As somebody who's actually tried cases, isn't it frustrating to see somebody talking to the jury like that?

Speaker 35 So stilted, so halting.

Speaker 28 Like, make a passionate argument without looking at your notes.

Speaker 67 Tell them a story.

Speaker 35 Have a crescendo and a decrescendo.

Speaker 30 It's just, I can't stand when I see lawyers talking like that.

Speaker 127 It's a little bit lazy when you have to refer to your notes. She could have said something a little more, I don't know, upbeat.

Speaker 127 Like, I guess Donna didn't learn in Murder for Higher School that if you're going to talk in code, both of you need to talk in code instead of having the person who's receiving your code decoding it on your call, right?

Speaker 8 I mean, that's just kind of crazy.

Speaker 127 And maybe she could have done that because it is so ridiculous. There's no getting around the fact that she talked in code.
The defense didn't do anything with that, they just kind of left it alone.

Speaker 127 So, it was actually a major, a major point that Donna Adelson's team could not talk her out of.

Speaker 127 And I have to go back to the other slot that you showed when her defense attorney was closing and saying, look, there's not a single piece of evidence tying her to the crime. She was right.

Speaker 127 There were 100 pieces of evidence tying her to this crime.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that's the problem. Like that works if it's true.

Speaker 60 If it's one of those cases where it's like really made up, it's thin air.

Speaker 45 But this case had a lot of proof tying Donna Adelson to the crime and the jury totally got it.

Speaker 60 So that leads us to Wendy.

Speaker 55 I'll just show you a clip of Wendy, members of the audience, so that you can see who we're talking about, but she's next.

Speaker 34 Here's the wife.

Speaker 131 He's not here to give them advice.

Speaker 123 He is not.

Speaker 131 He can't come to any of their functions, sports, anything else.

Speaker 56 Correct.

Speaker 54 They're not eating kosher like they would have with their father.

Speaker 133 They are not. They don't have him at all.

Speaker 123 They don't have him in their lives day to day, no.

Speaker 131 Because on July the 18th of 2014, he was brutally murdered in his driveway. Isn't that true? That is true.

Speaker 131 And you testified on direct that anybody in your family that had anything to do with it should be held responsible.

Speaker 134 Isn't that correct?

Speaker 133 Yes. And that includes you, doesn't it?

Speaker 123 Anyone, anyone who's responsible.

Speaker 51 Interestingly, there, Dave, that was the defense.

Speaker 71 So it's her mother's lawyer doing that cross-examination of her.

Speaker 14 And honestly, that's what's so galling about these murder for hire plots when they're orchestrated by the spouse, which I believe this one was.

Speaker 32 I think Wendy's going down.

Speaker 101 These people don't think about, or they just don't care about the consequences to their shared children.

Speaker 107 They're so selfish.

Speaker 47 They just want the children all to themselves.

Speaker 17 They want all the child rearing.

Speaker 76 They don't have to share custody.

Speaker 47 And they don't think about what the loss of one's father.

Speaker 28 I mean, I lost my dad at 15 to a heart attack, not to a murder.

Speaker 97 You know, this was preventable.

Speaker 79 This didn't have to happen.

Speaker 62 It's the most callous, like sociopathic thing one can do.

Speaker 14 So there she is with her blonde hair, perfectly coiffed and all her makeup on, trying to look, oh, I'm so attractive and I didn't have anything to do with this.

Speaker 42 She's, I give it three years.

Speaker 30 Let's see how she looks after she's been behind bars and in an orange jumpsuit for a year.

Speaker 25 We'll check back in then.

Speaker 13 Your thoughts on when and if they're bringing charges and whether she's likely to withstand them.

Speaker 117 Oh, she's not going to do well behind bars.

Speaker 117 She's got a good legal team that has been part of her entourage so far, including one of President Trump's former lawyers. But her day of reckoning is coming.

Speaker 117 And I do believe that at the next grand jury in Tallahassee, that Georgia Kaplan, the prosecutor, will go before that grand jury and seek an indictment against Wendy for first-degree murder.

Speaker 117 I think it's pretty much inevitable at this point. And you're right.
That defense lawyer was the one asking those questions, those hostile questions. What a family, huh? This divided family.

Speaker 117 And what's curious is that the defense really didn't have a strategy.

Speaker 117 For most of the cross-examination of Wendy, who testified under immunity, the defense lawyer was very supportive and friendly to her and then like turned on a switch and at the end went after her.

Speaker 117 So it's like, okay, are you friend? Are you foe? What's your strategy? What's your theory of the case? They were all discombobulated.

Speaker 117 I don't think it was well lawyered by Donna's defense lawyers, but they were dealing with the crap that they were given.

Speaker 117 That state had Donna dead to rights.

Speaker 18 The escape tape going off on the airport is a tough, that's a tough card to be dealt as the defense attorney, as is the conversation after the so-called bump by law enforcement, meant to get you to pick up the phone and call your co-conspirator and start talking about the crime.

Speaker 35 Like, who doesn't know that? Who doesn't?

Speaker 25 This is why I watch Dateline, so that if I ever commit a crime, I will be well prepared when they try to lay a trap for me to catch me.

Speaker 48 It's, I've said this before, but I love it.

Speaker 51 There was a very funny thing on Twitter years ago, and it was exactly right.

Speaker 14 It was saying, you know, pro tip: if you commit a crime with somebody and that person calls you back at some point after the crime and wants to go back over every detail of the crime you committed, the only proper response is, no, that is not a thing.

Speaker 109 That's it.

Speaker 100 That's all. That is not a thing.

Speaker 100 What? That's it.

Speaker 35 That's the only thing you say. So she blew it.

Speaker 82 So, but what's your take, Jonna, on whether there is, because you know, we looked at the trial of Donna and we looked at the evidence against Donna, even before it started, looked like there was pretty good evidence against Donna.

Speaker 13 But I don't know if we can say the same against Wendy.

Speaker 127 I've been wondering why Wendy is the last domino to fall in this case and why wasn't she the first? I mean, look, this involved her children. This was her custody battle.
This was her fight.

Speaker 127 She pushed these kids out of her birth canal. They were hers.
How does she escape? being the first one to be indicted in this case as opposed to being the last.

Speaker 127 I know that the evidence was pretty clear that Donna Adelson was a meddlesome, controlling mother-in-law and grandmother. We saw that.

Speaker 127 Even before this happened, she wanted to control who her daughter was dating. I get that.

Speaker 127 But in order for the mother to get behind this, don't you think Wendy has to be, mom, he won't let me move, which there was also evidence of. And then Mama Bear swept in to try to make it happen.

Speaker 127 Wendy should have been first, not last. I do think she will be indicted, but Dave and I were talking off air.
There's a tiny, tiny piece of me that thinks maybe they're going to let this go.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 127 I've got a reserve on that one.

Speaker 72 Well, what do we think?

Speaker 34 I like what you said about the license plate being in Donna's address book.

Speaker 64 That's evidence against both Donna and potentially Wendy, too.

Speaker 18 There's no way she didn't get it from Wendy.

Speaker 60 But what do we know, Dave, about the evidence they have against Wendy?

Speaker 117 Well, first of all, just to address what Jonna said, I do think a reason why they delayed on Wendy is because they wanted her testimony in all the trials of the co-defendants.

Speaker 117 And if she had been charged, they wouldn't get her testimony. So I think that's one reason why they waited.
But it would be a tougher case against Wendy, but they've got good evidence.

Speaker 117 Like I said, the license plate. Or how about this? Do you know that on the morning of the murder, she drove on the street where her ex-husband lives?

Speaker 54 Why?

Speaker 117 It wasn't anywhere near where she lives and nowhere near where she needed to go that day. And so she drove on the street, just like Brian Koberger returned to the scene of the crime.

Speaker 117 That's what happened. Sissy, she was gawking and she saw police activity outside of her ex-husband's home.
Her ex-husband had the kids, had custody of the kids that day.

Speaker 117 Do you think maybe she would call to find out what's going on with my kids? What's going on with my ex-husband? Nope, didn't make a call, didn't seem to care.

Speaker 117 So that's just a little bit of the evidence. Plus, she had a boyfriend at the time, a guy named Jeff Lacasse.

Speaker 117 Jeff Lacasse testified multiple times that Wendy was trying to set him up for the crime, kept asking him, even on the day they broke up, she said, oh, by the way, when are you leaving to go on your trip out of town?

Speaker 117 And he said, When exactly are you leaving? This is after they broke up because the killers were going to come to town on the day to commit the crime.

Speaker 117 And she wanted to make sure, allegedly, that her boyfriend was there to be framed for it. And one more piece of evidence: Do you know that the killers came to Tallahassee twice?

Speaker 117 And the first time they came up, they rented a car that was identical to the car that her boyfriend at the time, Jeff Lacasse, owned. How did they know that information?

Speaker 84 Do not date Wendy, don't marry Wendy, and don't get a divorce from Wendy.

Speaker 41 My God.

Speaker 68 Well, I look how long would you guess, Dave, as a former, very recently former Palm Beach County attorney yourself,

Speaker 58 how long would you guess, you say don't, you know, buy the green bananas, it might take before we see charges against her, if we're going to?

Speaker 117 Well, I think George will go to the grand jury when they meet.

Speaker 117 We don't know when the grand jury meets in Tallahassee, and it could be within 30 days, I think, of the verdict, which was yesterday, or it could be within 30 days of the sentencing, which is, I believe, October 14th.

Speaker 117 So I would say within 60 days, you will see Wendy charged with this crime.

Speaker 44 Wow. So

Speaker 64 MK True Crime is going to have its hands full.

Speaker 14 I have a lot more to discuss on the Adelson case.

Speaker 95 Thankfully, they're all experts on it now, having watched the whole trial.

Speaker 32 And thanks to Florida's Sunshine Laws, able to see it and show it to you, too.

Speaker 23 All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 99 Lisa Cook has been in the news.

Speaker 66 She's this member of the board of governors that's at the Fed that oversees

Speaker 71 the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 106 And Bill Pulte of the Fair Housing Administration has found a bunch of examples, he says, of her committing what he calls mortgage fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, all sorts of criminal fraud because she applied for houses by saying that they were going to be her primary residences when he says they weren't.

Speaker 32 Applied for one house saying it would be her secondary residence when, in fact, it was going to be a rental property, and so on.

Speaker 58 Two of those at least have been referred now for two grand juries, one in Ann Arbor, Michigan, one in Atlanta, Georgia.

Speaker 74 So they are using a grand jury I think to investigate and get more information and subpoena people and get to the bottom of this

Speaker 72 Bill Pulte was on CNBC yesterday going to play you some of what he said here's SOT 48

Speaker 135 I've never seen people support crime like this this is insane alleged crime let's call it that

Speaker 135 What she did was wrong. The fact that she hasn't come out and said, hey, these aren't my documents or some rational explanation for this alleged crime why is she not doing it doesn't make any sense

Speaker 136 she hasn't had her day in court yet she is alleged allegedly has done these things it feels like she's being put in the court of public opinion should we let this play out in the court and have her have to defend it and either be found guilty or not guilty or should this already rise to the level of cause before she has a chance to defend herself against it Well, I would defer to the lawyers on that.

Speaker 135 All I can tell you is my job is to ensure the safety and soundness of the mortgage market. I feel very strongly that I'm doing my job.
We're going to be making referrals.

Speaker 135 We make referrals almost every day. Lisa Cook happened to be one of them.
Everybody happens to be interested in it. I would also say, too, that yes, she will go through the court process.

Speaker 135 She did sue the president, and that's working its way through the court process. And to the extent that she is charged, which I do believe she will be indicted, that's my opinion.

Speaker 135 I believe she will be indicted.

Speaker 135 She will have her day in court, just like any other American.

Speaker 60 All right, Jonna, do you agree that she's likely to to be indicted?

Speaker 127 I agree that these types of crimes are easy to prove. They are paperwork crimes, so not hard.
So will she be indicted? There's a very good chance.

Speaker 127 I will also say that when you are a public servant, do not cry a river when you are put through the court of public opinion. You are a public servant.
And I would like to know where is the playbook?

Speaker 127 Because there must be one. There must be a secret playbook on how to get rich by being a public servant.
There must be a playbook on how to commit mortgage fraud because this isn't the first, right?

Speaker 127 There's a long, well, what's turning out to be a long list between Letitia James, shifty shift, now her, I don't think she's not going to be the last. She's not going to be the last.

Speaker 127 So what is going on here? You know, Donald Trump's administration is pulling back the curtain, thankfully. So will we see indictments? I predict yes.

Speaker 26 Am I the only one who, when I fill out these forms, am actually very careful and afraid of making a mistake?

Speaker 48 Like I've had people on here say, well, a lot of people, I'm like, they do.

Speaker 26 I'm terrified when I fill out.

Speaker 33 That's probably because we're lawyers.

Speaker 14 So we're like, oh, God, you know, we're always worried we're going to get thrown in jail because we spend our life in the legal system.

Speaker 48 But I think this is nuts.

Speaker 18 Like, this is not something everybody does.

Speaker 28 Most people are super careful to say what's real on these things, especially when you're applying for money in the form of a mortgage.

Speaker 66 Dave, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 117 Well, it's interesting. You know, I normally agree with my friend John on the true crime stuff, on the legal political stuff.
We have a little difference. And part of it is that

Speaker 117 as a former prosecutor, I'm all for going after people who commit crimes.

Speaker 117 My hesitancy here is let's just make sure that it's not selective prosecution because there was a 2023 report that came out from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia that found that one-third of single-family home investors misrepresent their occupancy status on their mortgage application.

Speaker 117 So this looks like

Speaker 91 it's a right.

Speaker 117 It's crazy.

Speaker 117 Oh, and it doesn't. But at the same time, you want to make sure the only people you're prosecuting aren't your political enemies, because if you want to avoid it, does it soften you at all?

Speaker 60 I get that, but does it soften you at all that she's been elevated to a position overseeing the Federal Reserve?

Speaker 53 You know, this is our most prestigious economic body in the United States.

Speaker 16 It oversees mortgage rates, for God's sake.

Speaker 117 Well, I would hope that wouldn't be the reason why the prosecutors are going after her because Trump wants to shape the Fed in his own image and would love her to be out.

Speaker 117 And the fact that this guy, Martin, is apparently in charge of the investigation, Ed Martin, the guy who is found in a trench coat, like he's Inspector Cluseau outside Letitia James' home, it doesn't give me a lot of confidence.

Speaker 117 So, if you want to avoid the weaponization of government, don't weaponize the government. That's the only thing I'm saying here.

Speaker 31 Well, that's a warning you should have given to your own side back when

Speaker 71 they're the ones who started this mess with Trump.

Speaker 73 Here is another interesting moment.

Speaker 35 First of all, Pulte got pressed on

Speaker 8 like, eh, mortgage fraud.

Speaker 73 And he had a very good answer.

Speaker 102 Here it is, Soph 49.

Speaker 115 I don't think your primary role at what you're doing now is to is to seek out and find mortgage fraud.

Speaker 116 That's completely false.

Speaker 135 That's completely false, Joe.

Speaker 116 That's completely false. That is what you're saying.

Speaker 135 My job, my job, and I swore an oath before the Senate and otherwise, that I would root out mortgage fraud and that I would ensure that there's safety and soundness in the mortgage market.

Speaker 116 The idea is that got to be one-sided. Joe, I got to finish.

Speaker 117 I got to finish.

Speaker 135 In 2008, the Housing and Economic Recovery Act was passed and gave enormous authority to this position in which I sit. It didn't happen by accident.
There was a housing crash.

Speaker 135 A big part of the reason that there was a housing crash was because people were buying mortgages and engaging in mortgage fraud.

Speaker 135 So I'm not going to be intimidated from pursuing mortgage fraud just because somebody has the special title of being a Fed governor.

Speaker 45 I was persuaded by that, Jonna.

Speaker 25 And I have to say,

Speaker 64 you could see a market impact if you really do have one-third of homeowners lying about the purpose of their home in order to get more favorable mortgage rates and favorable down payment rates.

Speaker 64 Like the whole reason that they want you to tell the truth is that they get so they can accurately assess the risk of giving you this loan.

Speaker 60 So if we have all these loans out there that have been inaccurately assessed, then we are in danger.

Speaker 82 And we saw what happened to the country the last time the mortgage system imploded.

Speaker 127 Yes, we did. So it's not like if somebody wants to point the finger at him and say, oh, you're just looking for political purposes.
No, this actually is a crime.

Speaker 127 If you think about it, where everybody who hasn't committed it is a victim, right? Because it's going to affect your mortgage rate, my mortgage rate, no matter how many houses that you own.

Speaker 127 It's going to affect people who are going into foreclosure and bankruptcy and all this stuff. So we need to keep it even for the rest of us.

Speaker 127 It just adds insult to injury when the person who's basically partly responsible for creating the rates, et cetera, is the one, you know, with her thumb on the scale, so to speak.

Speaker 14 What do you think should happen here, Dave?

Speaker 25 I mean, I have a second home.

Speaker 66 And you know what I filled out when we got our mortgage for our second home?

Speaker 22 Second home.

Speaker 76 Because I'm not a liar or a fraudster or a criminal.

Speaker 23 Why should she get this break on her second and third home that I didn't get, that nobody else who's telling the truth when they get their second home, they should be so fortunate, got?

Speaker 35 Why? So what should happen to her?

Speaker 117 If she broke the law, I'm all in favor of holding people accountable for breaking the law. Apparently, there were like very few of these cases brought in 2024.

Speaker 117 I think 38 federal charges brought against these types of people. She's a serial.

Speaker 31 She's a serial mortgage fraudster, according to Bill Pultey and possibly the DOJ.

Speaker 97 She's serial.

Speaker 117 Yes, but you even saw Joe Kernan, who is a very tight ally with Trump and MAGA on CNBC. He was pressing that guy.

Speaker 117 And the reason why is that there is a skepticism amongst a lot of us that says, okay, you're going after Lisa Cook. You're going after Adam Schiff.
You're going after Letitia James.

Speaker 117 If this is as common as you think it is, then where are the other cases? Are you just going after Trump?

Speaker 91 There might be.

Speaker 24 That's the issue.

Speaker 42 I'll bet you that he will bring some.

Speaker 32 I mean, there's rumors about Ken Paxton down in Texas. I don't know.

Speaker 71 Don't want to wrongly impugn him because I haven't heard that yet officially.

Speaker 40 But I bet I think Pulte's a straight shooter.

Speaker 74 I actually believe you will see Republicans come under that same microscope.

Speaker 23 But listen, you can't have somebody in this sort of economic position of authority having committed multiple instances of mortgage fraud, serial.

Speaker 86 And she's not denying them.

Speaker 50 Even her lawyer's alleged denial is she didn't commit fraud.

Speaker 45 He said on Tuesday in a court filing, she did not ever commit mortgage fraud.

Speaker 34 That is is not the same Jonna as saying she did not say primary residence for two residences at the same time and misclassify a secondary residence, which was in fact a rental property.

Speaker 60 It's not a denial.

Speaker 55 It's a legal conclusion.

Speaker 17 It's not a factual denial.

Speaker 127 Right, exactly. And he should probably be more careful and not say anything because right now, her primary concern is not about that.

Speaker 127 Her primary concern is not losing her job that Donald Trump wants to fire her for. So he should stand down until a later date, until the grand jury investigation, I guess, is concluded.

Speaker 127 But that's not, you're right, that's not an actual denial because she doesn't want to commit fraud again.

Speaker 98 Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 32 And listen, to me, it looks clear.

Speaker 42 She did it.

Speaker 18 She looks quite guilty to me.

Speaker 14 And if I were Lisa Cook, I'd be cutting my losses.

Speaker 95 I'd be very much not worried about my role at the Fed and very much worried about how I look in the color orange.

Speaker 110 That's the problem she's looking at.

Speaker 53 Do I overstate the case, actually, Dave?

Speaker 32 Like, what would be the penalties if she were found guilty of all this fraud?

Speaker 117 You could get some prison time, although I think it's relatively minor. I think the average sentence, I shouldn't say too minor, it's the average sentence is around 18 months at the federal level.

Speaker 117 So that's not insignificant.

Speaker 117 But she will fight back in court, and I'll bet you she will use selective prosecution as her defense. And that's why the administration needs to be careful.

Speaker 117 You don't don't want it to look like selective prosecution because that is the is that an actual defense or is that a jury nullification tool?

Speaker 91 Both.

Speaker 117 I think you can argue that with the judge initially and then

Speaker 117 you can argue and then you can argue it in trial if the judge allows it. And that could be the jury nullification tool, which we've seen, by the way, in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 117 It's like this passive aggressive way that the D.C. grand jurors have been rejecting Janine Pirro's attempts to get all these federal indictments.

Speaker 117 This is an area that doesn't like Trump too much and is pushing back in their own way.

Speaker 23 I like on that, we did a report on that on AM update this morning on these grand jurors not indicting people who have committed crime just as like an F you to Trump.

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Speaker 57 Okay, guys, so Cardi B,

Speaker 30 the talented rapper, she's a very colorful character.

Speaker 72 I didn't know this until today.

Speaker 95 Her real name is Belcalis Marlenes Almanzar.

Speaker 80 She

Speaker 71 has been accused of assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent, and false imprisonment in a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court by a woman named Imani Ellis.

Speaker 18 It happened in 2018.

Speaker 97 And Imani claims that Cardi B assaulted her, that there was a physical altercation in which she got assaulted.

Speaker 15 Cardi B claims Cardi B was going, I think, to see her doctor, was going into this medical office building, and she sees Imani there with her phone, videotaping Cardi B and like documenting it.

Speaker 45 And this is a private, like she's going for a private appointment, and says, like, don't videotape me.

Speaker 72 Like, what are you doing?

Speaker 14 And it was no more than a verbal altercation and that this whole thing was a money grab.

Speaker 53 Here is, let's start with the alleged victim.

Speaker 71 the plaintiff, Imani Ellis, and her testimony about what allegedly happened in SOP 57.

Speaker 104 After she heard me say her name, she turned back around and the first thing out of her mouth was, excuse my language, was why the are you telling people that you've seen me?

Speaker 104 At this time, I tried to calm her down and assure her that I didn't tell anyone that I seen her, and she was extremely upset.

Speaker 54 What did she tell you after that?

Speaker 104 Then, excuse my language again, but she said, Yes, you did, and then she put her finger in my face.

Speaker 107 She used a lot of words,

Speaker 104 and again, excuse my language, but she was like,

Speaker 104 Bitch, that's why I'm gonna beat your.

Speaker 56 I'm gonna get you fired.

Speaker 104 That's why you do security. Ah, that's why you do security.
Ah, she was sticking her tongue out, she was flailing her arms up and down, she was jumping up and down,

Speaker 104 body shaming me. I mean,

Speaker 18 okay, because Imani Ellis was a security guard in this building where Cardi B was going for an OB appointment.

Speaker 44 She was relatively new in her pregnancy, and she didn't want people knowing she was pregnant, hence her understandable upset at being filmed when she's going to see her OB.

Speaker 26 And this security guard, of all people, to be filming her, she was justifiably angry.

Speaker 14 Here's Cardi B's version of it: 56.

Speaker 140 Now we're like chest to chest, practically. So So I keep telling her that you need you need to back up back up.
I'm thinking to myself like

Speaker 140 this girl is big.

Speaker 141 She's big.

Speaker 140 She got big black boots on.

Speaker 140 And I'm like, damn, arguing. And I keep telling her to back up, but she's not backing up.

Speaker 140 And we arguing, cursing at each other.

Speaker 141 I did call her the B-word.

Speaker 140 I did call her a bitch. Like, bitch, get out of my face.
I did say, bitch, get the fuck out of my face. You're in my face.
You're screaming in my face.

Speaker 140 We're like, literally, right in, we're literally screaming at each other.

Speaker 140 And she, and she kept telling me, like, you're going to leave my building.

Speaker 140 I'm not leaving.

Speaker 42 I love the, we go from, I said the B word, get the fuck out of my face.

Speaker 51 So the jury has come back and said she is not liable for this.

Speaker 49 Dave, Cardi B is vindicated and Imani gets nothing.

Speaker 98 Did they reach the right conclusion?

Speaker 117 Yes. This was a two-day trial and the jury took less than an hour to come back with its verdict.
That tells you something. This was a weak case.

Speaker 117 And the plaintiff is saying that she was scratched on the cheek and that caused her grave emotional damage and she had to get surgery.

Speaker 117 And the jury didn't believe it, especially because she was suing for $24 million. And that came in through Cardi B's testimony.
She said, I'm being sued for $24 million. Yeah.

Speaker 117 And the jury's like, are you kidding me? Scratch me on the cheek and give me $24 million. I'll take that trade.

Speaker 44 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 75 Wait, we have that? What is that, Sat?

Speaker 80 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 25 Well, actually, you said I have other ones that I want to play before.

Speaker 71 I got to choose my favorites here.

Speaker 74 Here's Cardi B explaining that Amani Ellis is bigger than she is, 58.

Speaker 130 You said she's bigger than you? Is that correct?

Speaker 140 Actually.

Speaker 130 How do you know that?

Speaker 54 She points at her. I mean, look.

Speaker 56 I'm looking. I agree with that.

Speaker 135 What is your basis?

Speaker 54 Are you saying she's physically bigger?

Speaker 130 She's taller?

Speaker 140 I mean,

Speaker 140 you have her medical record.

Speaker 54 I don't have anything. I'm not asking you the questions.

Speaker 140 I mean, I was 130 pounds at that time.

Speaker 130 So she's overweight, right? In your opinion? Objection, Rob.

Speaker 56 She's a little...

Speaker 130 You don't need to answer me.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 56 Did you call her fat?

Speaker 140 No. I was calling her a beach.

Speaker 53 She's a little.

Speaker 76 And then she goes on to explain what, kind of what she thinks of Imani's figure in Sot 59.

Speaker 141 We were face to face, so she's practically like my height. Or just

Speaker 141 much taller, but she was practically

Speaker 134 my height.

Speaker 141 But she is like...

Speaker 56 What?

Speaker 54 Hey?

Speaker 56 Security heavy.

Speaker 54 What does security heavy mean?

Speaker 54 Just tell us.

Speaker 54 Go on.

Speaker 135 What does that mean?

Speaker 141 Like she just looks a little

Speaker 141 like she could protect the building.

Speaker 56 You know what I'm saying? She just look

Speaker 141 more

Speaker 56 developed than me.

Speaker 53 Johnna, I'm sorry, but that's very charming.

Speaker 22 She's funny.

Speaker 127 She is hilarious and she is so authentic. And if I weren't a Cardi B fan before, I am a Cardi B fan now.
And let me just say

Speaker 127 the facts of this case never supported a successful civil suit. The facts of this case support an Instagram post.
And here's who I am mad at. I'm not even mad at the plaintiff.

Speaker 127 I'm mad at the plaintiff's lawyer because he's one of these people. He must be.

Speaker 127 These lawyers who seek out people with money and celebrities, they're usually one and the same, who they think that there is a legal slush fund so you can bring a frivolous lawsuit and these celebs are going to write a check to make it go away.

Speaker 127 We need fewer of those attorneys in our lives because that's not fair. And kudos to Cardi B for standing up and saying basically, I'm not taking any shit.
And that's what this lawsuit is about.

Speaker 127 And she didn't take any shit. So good for her.

Speaker 52 By the way, nine out of ten celebrities would have settled this.

Speaker 42 Yeah,

Speaker 64 they would have settled this just so that they didn't have to go through the inconvenience and the public humiliation of testifying and so on.

Speaker 47 So good for her for standing up.

Speaker 80 She knew that this woman had put her in an uncomfortable situation, not the other way around.

Speaker 102 Here she is on the lesson learned in SOT 64.

Speaker 134 I'm not even playing around.

Speaker 134 I will say it in my deathbed. I did not touch that woman.
I did not touch that girl.

Speaker 134 I didn't lay my hands on that girl. And with that being said,

Speaker 134 with that being said,

Speaker 134 this time around, I'm going to be nice. The next person to try to to do a frivolous

Speaker 134 lawsuit against me, I'm going to countersue.

Speaker 23 I applaud that, Dave.

Speaker 86 That's really what will deter people because when it gets this plaintiff's attorney who has dollar signs in his eyes, there's almost no downside to somebody like this bringing a massive lawsuit against a celebrity like her.

Speaker 117 That's right. The cult of personality, of fame out there, you can be famous just by suing a famous person, and then it could help your law practice.
So that's an advantage.

Speaker 117 But we're starting to see celebrities fight back. Megan, it wasn't just Cardi B.

Speaker 117 Remember Gwyneth Paltrow, she successfully fought back against that guy who was suing her, even though he was the one allegedly who plowed into her on the ski slope. So, right.

Speaker 117 So, I think that was interesting.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 117 Right.

Speaker 117 And in the past, perhaps, you know, the celebrities didn't want the negative publicity, but I think they're starting to get good publicity by standing up to people who see them as a windfall, as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Speaker 45 I feel like

Speaker 14 they can all thank Johnny Depp for giving them the example of how not to just roll over.

Speaker 110 Like there actually might be a greater value in standing up and fighting.

Speaker 18 Okay, last but not least, I want to get to this.

Speaker 24 Not long ago, we had on the show Cash Patel's girlfriend.

Speaker 65 She came on the show because she wanted to set the record straight.

Speaker 71 Trying to find my notes here on exactly the status of the lawsuit.

Speaker 14 People were calling her a mosad agent and accusing her of being part of a honeypot operation, like where you're a spy and you cozy up to somebody just to like compromise them.

Speaker 34 And she came on the Megan Kelly show to set the record straight and say, this isn't true.

Speaker 31 I didn't, I'm not that person.

Speaker 36 Here she is, SOT 55.

Speaker 14 This is from our July 30th episode.

Speaker 46 For the record, I should ask you, are you a spy for any government?

Speaker 104 Definitely not.

Speaker 104 That is a firm no on that front.

Speaker 14 Okay, her name is Alexis Wilkins.

Speaker 14 And now she's sued one of the podcasters who said this about her a guy named kyle serafin um for defamation because he said explicitly well the following here it is in sod 53.

Speaker 89 he's had his own little honeypot issue that's been going on of late so we're just going to acknowledge it real publicly he's got a girlfriend that's half his age who apparently is both a country music singer

Speaker 56 a political commentator on Rumble,

Speaker 89 a friend now of John Rich, through Bongino, who also owns a big chunk of Rumble, and she's also a former Mossad agent in what is like the equivalent of their M, their NSA.

Speaker 89 But I'm sure that's totally because, like, she's really looking for a cross-eyed, you know, kind of thickish-built, super cool bro who's almost 50 years old, who's Indian in America.

Speaker 89 Like, it has nothing to do with the fact that we're really close to the Trump administration. Anyway, I'm sure that that's totally just like love.
That's what real love looks like.

Speaker 30 He's he's got a problem because he stated it as though it were a fact.

Speaker 37 He did not say, in my opinion, or she's probably, he stated it like it's a fact and suggesting that she's betraying her country by sleeping with the FBI director so she can give dirt back to the Mossad in Israel, a place she's never been.

Speaker 79 She has absolutely no connection with them whatsoever.

Speaker 64 There's no question that's defamatory, Dave, but is it actionable?

Speaker 14 Like,

Speaker 32 will the civil suit against him go anywhere?

Speaker 117 Yeah, I think so, Megan. And she is arguably a public figure, so she has a higher burden.
You got to show actual malice that he knew better. And she's saying they had met before.

Speaker 117 So he knew that she was not a Mossad agent. And you can tell by his language there, there's real some animosity there.
He's Indian. Why would you want to date this guy? It's pretty ugly.

Speaker 117 And for me, I got to tell you, Megan, I'm like tired of the far right and far left podcasters. This guy is a Republican podcaster who's supposedly a recovering FBI agent.

Speaker 117 I'm tired of them using Israel as the bad guy and everything, Mossad Israel as the enemy. So I'm glad he's getting sued.

Speaker 117 And by the way, on that subject, thank you for standing up against Chris Martin and his devaluing of Israeli citizens' lives by dictates.

Speaker 117 You are human. I will grant you your humanity.

Speaker 52 Like, please. Oh, thanks.

Speaker 47 Thanks so much for deigning to do that.

Speaker 60 He denies that he doesn't remember meeting her ever before.

Speaker 49 And even if he did meet her, I don't know.

Speaker 14 Their point is you met at a time when she was dating Cash Patel, pre-FBI director.

Speaker 30 So how could you credibly say this is a honeypot operation?

Speaker 45 Because he was not in that role yet, Johanna.

Speaker 18 But he denies remembering the meeting.

Speaker 64 Actual malice is a very high bar, though.

Speaker 127 It is. But he's a jerk, number one.
Number two, I would argue that maybe she's not a public figure, which wouldn't require actual malice, though she did plead it in her pleading.

Speaker 127 And here's what I love about her: he makes the statement on August 22nd. She files her lawsuit on August 27th.
There's a weekend in there. They wasted no time.
Good for her and her team.

Speaker 98 It's hard.

Speaker 25 Like, if I were him, I would apologize.

Speaker 71 I would retract it and I would try to save myself on this.

Speaker 41 You know, maybe he could have her on and they could have a real heart-to-heart.

Speaker 20 That would be a better place for this to land.

Speaker 45 It's hard.

Speaker 114 You know, loose talk on a podcast, which is freewheeling, can happen.

Speaker 26 If that's what happened there, he should fix it.

Speaker 30 He should fix it with an apology.

Speaker 87 And

Speaker 20 I bet she'd make it go away.

Speaker 31 That's not exactly what he's done.

Speaker 102 He's said it's frivolous.

Speaker 111 He called Cash Patel dumb for letting his girlfriend file it.

Speaker 32 So it doesn't doesn't sound like it's going in that direction.

Speaker 47 We'll continue to follow it, especially on MK True Crime.

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Speaker 51 See you, Jonna.

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