Megyn Kelly Fact-Checks the Unfair and False Attacks on Charlie Kirk's Past Comments About Race and Gender | Ep. 1164

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Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at Noon East.

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show.

I've been working on this piece for a couple of days now.

I've mentioned it on the show multiple days this week, and you're going to find out in a minute why I'm doing it.

I'm sick and tired.

I'm sick and tired of what they're doing to Charlie Kirk in the aftermath of his assassination.

And the talking points that are now circulating about him on the left are vile

and unfortunately viral.

They're everywhere, from the New York Times to The Guardian and beyond.

There's a narrative emerging about him and it must be countered.

The truth must be spoken and made plain.

And I hope both fans of this show and critics of Charlie's will do themselves the favor of listening to what I have to say.

The turning point revolution is in full swing right now.

This past Tuesday at Utah State, students proved they will not bow to terrorism, showing up to hear a collection of conservatives speak in the same venue Charlie was supposed to.

Some 6,000 people were there, showing the world that the Charlie Kirk effect is real and it's formidable.

By the way, if you would like to send your own message that we will not be silenced by the radical left, come see us on our live tour.

You can get the tickets at megankelly.com.

But it is that very force of Charlie's growing power that explains why he is is now coming under withering attack.

First of all, this is so inappropriate.

He is barely in his grave, killed by someone who said he was too hateful to live.

And what does the left do?

Try to prove the shooter's point.

It's disgusting, and it's no different than discussing whether insurance companies are bad immediately after the United Healthcare CEO was shot dead by an unhappy activist.

Maybe let's wait until, say, the headstone has been put up before we start debating the merits of the assassin's argument.

The most disgusting among the chattering class last week was easily the New York Times contributor Nicole Hanna-Jones, along with author Tanahasi Coates, both of whom have made a fortune by telling America how racist it is and always will be.

We addressed the Coates attack on Charlie last week in episode 1160.

Today we get to Nicole Hanna-Jones.

See, neither Coates nor Jones can afford to have Charlie's pro-America, colorblind, anti-woke legacy grow.

It would kill what's left of their gravy train.

Too many kids are creating turning point chapters.

Too many Americans showing up at vigils.

Too many young black men circulating videos like these on X.

I think I'm at a point in life where I can officially say that I'm conservative.

Growing up, you know, especially black, all you do is just vote blue, vote Democratic.

But my beliefs, my morals, like,

it all aligns with being conservative.

The old I've gotten and what I've seen, what they push in their agendas, and like they literally just mock the Bible.

Charlie Kirk got shot in a neck.

That was the last bastion.

I can't be a liberal no more.

You see the fucking comments?

I hope the gun is okay.

The same fucking people asking for moral decency.

I cannot, in good faith, align myself with you guys anymore.

We not only lost

a political, one of the greatest political activists in America history, in American history, but we lost one of the greatest champions for Christ

that we've seen in politics.

This man's message was pure.

It was not a message of hate.

It was a message of unity.

Now, I'll be the first to admit I didn't agree with every view he held, but there is one thing I cannot deny.

Charlie was unashamed of his belief in Jesus Christ.

And in the age where faith is often mocked or silenced, he stood boldly and proclaimed the name above every name.

And for that, I honor him.

So, Nicole Hannah Jones pulls a bunch of Charlie quotes removed from their context or any wider look at who Charlie really was to paint him as a racist.

She actually calls him a white supremacist in this piece.

We shouldn't be surprised Jones's bread and butter has been race lies in the New York Times.

This is the same paper that aided and abetted her earlier race hoax called the 1619 Project, the fiction that America was really born on the date the first African slaves arrived here, an event Jones posits is America's North Star.

Now, Jones admits her purpose in writing about Charlie is that his opinions have been widely embraced, and she's downright alarmed about it, writing, quote, it is clear that Kirk's ideas are no longer considered on the extremist periphery, but are embraced by Republican leadership.

She says this demonstrates that espousing open and explicit bigotry no longer relegates one to the fringe.

So Charlie was fringe, in her view, part of the lamentable extremist periphery.

But now he's gone mainstream.

And she is terrified of that, which she should be, because what that means is her grift is ending.

Her piece is framed around a man named Dominic Durant and his 11-year-old daughter in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

The daughter, we are told, allegedly came home teary-eyed after Charlie was killed.

Dad Dominic was aghast, worried she would look up Charlie's YouTube feed and, quote, come across many ugly assertions, in particular about black Americans.

And then what happened?

Dominic called Nicole Hannah-Jones to put his thoughts in the New York Times?

Who is this Dominic?

She never tells us.

Is he related to Miss Jones?

Is he a friend she knows from DEI circles?

Does Dominic have an an axe to grind here?

Did the Times bother checking?

We don't know.

But what pray tell is allegedly bothering this man?

Miss Jones first zeroes in on this Charlie Kirk comment.

Quote, Kirk had claimed that four prominent and successful black women who all went to Ivy League universities, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Joy Reed, and former Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas, quote, did not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously and had to go steal a white person's slot.

Is that what Charlie said?

Roll the tape.

If we would have said that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Katanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the

racist.

But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us.

They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.

Yeah, we know

you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

Play Cut 52.

But I rise today as a clear recipient of

affirmative action, and particularly in higher education.

I may have been admitted on affirmative action both in terms of being a woman and a woman of color, but I can declare that I did not graduate on affirmative action.

This is my personal story.

It's very obvious to us that you were not smart enough to be able to get in on your own.

I couldn't make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.

You know, this is how arrogant Joy Reed and Katanji Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee are.

They're so narcissistic, they think this is persuasive.

Well, it turns out Charlie was making a point here, not about his beliefs about black women, but about the admission by these black women about their own capabilities.

He was reacting to their disclosure that they could not get into their Ivy League schools based on their own brain power.

That standards had to be lowered for them, which was done through affirmative action, a program that admits otherwise unqualified minority candidates to a school that would have rejected them.

It's true, Charlie was not surprised.

They were affirmative action students.

None of us is.

Katanji Brown Jackson, at her Supreme Court confirmation hearing, could not even answer the question, what is a woman, explaining, I'm not a biologist.

It was only last year that Sheila Jackson Lee was telling children the moon is a planet and that it's made of gases.

Okay, not a planet, and it's made mostly of rock and metals.

Charlie then says, these women stole a white person's spot, which Jones does not appreciate.

Well, that's true, too.

I mean, technically, it was either a white person's slot or an Asian person's, the two groups who lose spots to black and brown people advancing on affirmative action.

This is not a figment of Charlie's imagination.

There's a whole Supreme Court case about it decided in 2023, brought by Asian and white students.

The high court finally banned the practice as discriminatory.

You'd think Jones, a college professor, might have heard about it.

Next up, Nicole Hannah Jones's objection to Charlie's statement that, quote, black America is poorer, more murderous, and more dangerous than when black people were living under Jim Crow.

He did not mutter this quietly, drunk in some dark bar.

He didn't drink.

He said it in a room full of people on a show called Jubilee, where one conservative debates 25 liberal college students out in the open.

He was not trying to hide his point.

He wanted people to hear it.

Charlie had a great back-and-forth with a young black woman about why he felt this way, which Jones completely ignores.

Racial terror permeated American culture for hundreds of years.

Black America is

that that affected

the generational psych of an entire group of people.

I'm sure it did.

I'm not discounting that.

I'm just trying to understand why it is the more social welfare we've done, so we've spent $20 trillion on uplifting black communities, $20 trillion, and black Americans are poor.

We've done everything that's been asked.

You haven't done everything that's been asked.

Great society.

What is being asked?

Subsidized housing, Medicaid, public schooling,

subsidized college.

We're talking about $20 trillion

on the Great Society.

And yet, black America is poorer, more murderous, more dangerous.

So there's an explanation.

I'm asking you to do that.

No, we are not asking for handouts.

We are asking for equity.

And part of equity

meeting with other people?

Excuse me, it means sharing, which is something that you guys seem to have a very hard time doing.

How brave of that, first of all, was Charlie?

How brave of that

was that for him to do?

I mean, incredible.

Now, what if Dominic's daughter actually did see that exchange?

Well, she might actually learn something about respectful debate and U.S.

history, because this was not a Charlie Kirk idea.

This is a mainstream conservative take on the damage done to the black community by Lyndon B.

Johnson's great society social engineering programs.

Black intellectuals from Thomas Sowell to Shelby Steele to once Harvard and now Brown economist Glenn Lowry have made this same point for decades.

But they don't teach Thomas Sowell in schools because he does not buy the oppression narratives of the New York Times.

Let's start with a piece of Charlie's statement suggesting blacks were hurt economically by the Great Society programs.

Jason Riley, who happens to be black, author of the must-read book, Please Stop Helping Us, in which he argues government interventions have harmed black Americans, set the scene in the Wall Street Journal in 2021: quote: Between 1940 and 1960, the the percentage of black families living in poverty declined by 40 points as blacks increased their years of education and migrated from poorer, rural areas to more prosperous, urban ones in the south and the north.

Then came the great society programs, which kicked off decades in which Riley explains blacks saw, quote, slower progress or outright retroaggression.

Black labor force

participation fell, black unemployment rates rose, and the black nuclear family disintegrated.

In 1960, fewer than 25% of black children were being raised by a single mother.

Within four decades, it was more than half.

By 2023, the Heritage Foundation reports that only 31% of Black children were born to a two-parent family, less than one-third.

Why?

Because LBJ's Aid to Families with Dependent Children program conditioned financial assistance on a father's absence from the home.

Absolute insanity.

Here's Senator Tim Scott talking about it at a presidential debate a couple years ago.

So often we think that all the issues, you talked about crime and education and health care, we always think that those issues go back to slavery.

Here's the challenge, though.

Black families survived slavery.

We survived poll taxes and literacy tests.

We survived discrimination being woven into the laws of our country.

What was hard to survive was Johnson's Great Society where they decided to put money

Where they decided to take the black father out of the household to get a check in the mail and you can now measure that in unemployment and crime and devastation if you want to restore hope you've got to restore the family restore capitalism and put Americans back at work together as one American family.

As for Charlie's assertion that blacks have become more murderous and dangerous since Jim Crow or the 1960s, that's true too.

And it's related to the absence of fathers.

From the 1960s forward, crime by black Americans escalated dramatically.

As Riley explains in the journal, quote, antisocial behavior is closely associated with family breakdown.

So it's no surprise that more fatherless homes led to higher violent crime rates, pointing out that black male homicide rates had been falling in the 1940s and 1950s, but starting in the 1960s, this trend began to reverse itself and continued to worsen for the next three decades.

These are facts, not racist hate.

Nicole Hannah Jones then attacks Charlie for saying nowadays, quote, prowling blacks go around for fun to target white people.

Not phrased in the most PC way, I'll grant you, but Charlie was actually quite brave in saying what we have all seen on our X feeds, but are generally too polite to say.

He was seeing videos like this one, showing a mob of black people beating the hell out of a white victim.

These videos are commonplace online, but they don't make the news virtually ever.

As scholar and author Heather McDonald put it in City Journal in 2023, quote, well-meaning Americans turn their eyes away from black crime in deference to racial etiquette.

Such etiquette, however understandable, is costing lives.

It will continue to do so until the next administration tells the truth about law enforcement and crime.

Only then will the police be able to protect public safety without the false stigma of racism.

Charlie's specific commentary here was part of his general reaction to a video that went viral a while back of young black men appearing to harass a crying white six-months pregnant woman over her rented city bike in New York, which they claimed was theirs, but she produced a receipt.

The media was quick to label the woman a racist for not giving up the bike and for having the nerve to cry during the exchange.

We covered the story on this show and read an excerpt from The Griot in which they quoted one black woman saying, you put a white woman in a situation and a Karen will come out.

Where was Nicole Hannah Jones calling out that racism?

The reaction against this particular white woman on the city bike was so hasty and unfair, even race hustling lawyer Benjamin Crump had to delete a tweet piling on her once it was proven she was in the right.

Charlie, in discussing the incident, was not commenting on all black people, but about those who seem to take joy in harassing or hurting others, especially whites.

It's a troubling dynamic that should be discussed and addressed.

But at present, we cannot even get the media to report on the race of a criminal suspect if he happens to be black.

In fact, in New York City, where that city bike incident happened, there was another crime right around this same time, in which three teens on city bikes seriously assaulted two white women for fun out of nowhere.

In the initial reporting of the incident, while the perpetrators were still at large and cops were asking for the public's help in finding them, the media would only call them teenagers.

No description at all.

It took me half an hour to find a single follow-up report in which one of the victims told a reporter that at least two of the teenagers were black, the third she could not remember.

Jones attacks other of Charlie's commentary, suggesting it was racist of him to say this.

Black Americans are in prison far greater than a percentage of the population.

So black Americans, about 13 to 14% of the population.

About half of all prisoners are black.

So blacks commit more crimes than whites do.

So why do you think black people commit more crimes than white white people?

First of all, so how, let me ask you, let me ask you a question as my answer.

What percentage of blacks have a father around when they're they're raised?

I'm not sure.

20%.

80% of blacks do not have a stable father around.

It is the most predictable way to end up in prison, end up as a murderer, or a criminal.

It's not a racism problem.

It's not a white supremacy problem.

It's a fact that black fathers impregnate women and they don't stay around with the women that they have impregnated.

Charlie Kirk, do you think that that happens more in the black community compared to others?

It's threefold.

Number one, we subsidize single motherhood.

Number two, it's culture.

It's accepted in the black community.

And it shouldn't be.

It's culture.

Okay, okay.

Don't take my word for it.

Read Thomas Sowell's own book on how black culture allows single motherhood to continue into a nanny state type practice.

So we've covered the issue of fatherlessness and what it does to black families.

As for whether blacks commit more crime than whites, That is also true on a per capita basis.

Back to Heather McDonald, a Manhattan Institute fellow and graduate of Yale, Cambridge, and Stanford Law, who reports that, quote, the national rate of homicides committed by blacks is eight times that of whites and Hispanics combined.

If you take Hispanics out of the equation, she writes, the black-white homicide differential is about 11 to 1.

Black males, she goes on, between the ages of 14 and 17, commit homicide at 10 times the rate of white and Hispanic teens combined.

In New York City, McDonald reports blacks are 23% of the population, but commit 75% of all shootings, 70% of all robberies, 66% of all violent crime.

Whites are 33% of the city's population, but commit less than 2% of all shootings, 4% of robberies, and 5% of violent crime.

Chicago, Heather remarked when she was promoting her book, The War on Cops, is the same.

Blacks and whites each make up just under one-third of the city's population.

Blacks commit 80% of all homicides there and 80% of all shootings.

Whites commit about 1%

of Chicago's shootings and homicides.

Here, again, Charlie was right.

And it was courageous of him to offer these facts unapologetically and very publicly.

Covering them up is exactly what allowed the Black Lives Matter lies about racist cops hunting unarmed black men to fester, which led directly to the loss of more black lives as police pulled back and minority communities suffered.

Nicole Hannah Jones and the Times should be ashamed of themselves for letting her cast this assertion as racist without telling their audience it's true.

Before we leave this subject, let's do what Nicole Hannah Jones would never do.

Look at how Charlie actually engaged with Black Americans.

He had plenty of interactions with them.

He was radically honest in a way too few ever are because he felt that the truth was what God commanded and what respect for others required.

And respect was what he showed the black Americans he met.

Watch.

If you have something based on merit,

I don't care if it's all black, all Asian, all white.

It's an excellent group is what I want, not a diverse group.

I care about excellence, not diversity.

Because I do not believe diversity is a strength.

I believe unity is a strength.

I believe the pursuit of higher purposes is a strength.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, I do understand where you're coming from.

I feel like I do agree with some of the things that you did just say, and I may have to do some more research on the things that you said before, but I guess we can agree to disagree for the time being.

Thank you for your time.

Appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Do you think people should be hired based on their race or their competency?

I don't think that.

I think they should be race.

My fault.

I'm sorry.

My fault.

I think that they should be hired based on their competency, not their race.

We totally agree, right?

Okay.

So, what DEI does in practice, not in theory, is it focuses on race more than competency.

That is our concern.

And so what I want, and you seem very passionate about a lot of things, and you obviously have skills, for your life, I want you always to be judged on the content of your character, not the color of your skin.

Where DEI says, no, we're actually going to care more about skin color than competency.

And so what we want is an America based on merit, an America based on how hard you work, an America based on what you bring to the table, not just what you look like.

That's what Dominic's little girl is going to see on Charlie's YouTube feed.

That's what was real and true and beautiful about Charlie Kirk.

Jones's objections to Charlie go beyond race.

She claims his version of Christianity, quote, condemned and disparaged people who are gay and transgender.

Her evidence is that Charlie once posted, quote, the pride and trans movements have always been about grooming kids.

Also, that he once raised a passage in the Bible, she says, that men who lay with other men shall be stoned to death.

First, LGBTQ activist groups have been disturbingly focused on getting their messaging in front of children, including young children.

We regularly feature stories about inappropriate books and materials being introduced in schools with information about a young child's sexuality or fluid gender, about masturbation, about homosexual sex or sex with a much older person, all to very young kids.

Books for elementary school kids, suggesting girls can have penises, that children may have been born in the wrong body, and that they might want to talk about it with their teachers, but not their parents.

Where do the schools get these books?

Often from recommended reading lists pushed on them by LGBTQ groups like the human rights campaign, GLAAD, or GLISEN, which describes its mission as, quote, championing LGBTQ issues in K through 12 education.

It's not ambiguous.

Some of these books, published in partnership with GLAAD, were at the center of a Supreme Court case called Mahmoud versus Taylor, which the High Court decided just last term.

They concluded that these materials are being taught to elementary age children in a way that seeks to, these are the Supreme Court's words, quote, normalize these behaviors, posing, quote, a very real threat of undermining the parents' role.

LGBTQ groups opposed parental rights in that case.

It's all there, black and white.

As for Jones's suggestion that Charlie was somehow in favor of stoning gays to death, that's been debunked as a lie even by Snopes and many, many others to the point where even the rapidly left-wing Stephen King has now apologized repeatedly for making this same baseless accusation.

Guess the New York Times didn't get the memo.

Finally, on the trans issue, Jones attacks Charlie for referring to a trans athlete, she writes, as quote, an abomination, and for calling a trans person, quote, a throbbing middle finger to God.

Here is what Charlie said.

The one issue I think that is so against our senses, so against the natural law,

And dare I say a throbbing middle finger to God is the transgender thing happening in America right now.

We are in a church, and so it's important to remember, Deuteronomy 22, 5, a woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak.

For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

You hear that, William Thomas?

You're an abomination to God.

Charlie was talking about Leah Thomas, formerly William, who swam with the UPenn's men's team one season and with the women's the next, going from the mid-500s in rank to number one in the United States.

Six foot two Leah Thomas, who paraded around the women's locker room, a fully intact male, wearing a tight little women's bathing suit, making the female swimmers visibly uncomfortable, not to mention the times he was naked parading through.

Listen to Riley Gaines, who competed against Thomas at the NCAA championships, describe the scene.

The first time that we became aware we would be undressing next to this six foot four, 22-year-old man, fully intact, fully exposing himself, was when we were inches away from said man.

These suits that you put on,

I mean, they're skin tight, they're paper thin.

It takes about 15, 20 minutes, your racing suit to really poke and prod yourself into these suits.

20 minutes of which you're fully exposed.

You have your back turned, again, putting on your suit.

And all of a sudden, you hear a man's voice voice in that locker room.

You turn around, you look up because he's so tall, and there's a six-foot-four man undressing, taking off his women's swimsuit and putting on his street clothes.

Wow.

It's feelings of, of course, it's awkward, it's embarrassing, it's uncomfortable.

It was innate, inherent for every girl in that changing space to cover themselves, whether it was with their hand or their clothes or their towels, and to get out as quickly as they could.

But I think the best way to describe how he felt was,

I mean, it was an utter violation.

It felt like betrayal.

And really, it was traumatic.

That's Leah, formerly Will Thomas.

That's what he put her and other girls through.

Leah Thomas, who bragged about stealing women's medals and stood by as his university, University of Pennsylvania, told the women who complained on the swim team that they needed to get therapy.

If they didn't like it, he was fine with that.

Whose social media posts, as unearthed by the Daily Wire, show cartoon figures of a girl in a dress with an erect penis, of a girl with breasts and an erect penis hugging another figure with an erection, that show Leah pushing for money for a trans surgery on what appears to be Leah's boyfriend, a male posing as a female seeking a breast augmentation, and which also show Leah depicted as a demonic complete with devil horns, dominatrix.

What about this exactly is not an abomination to God?

Once again, though, while Leah Thomas had earned Charlie's well-founded scorn, Charlie's treatment of trans and gay people he interacted with was uniformly kind.

Watch.

I do not have hate for a group.

I do not have hate for a people.

So you do not hate the LGBT community.

A turning point is not against LGBT.

How could I hate that which I have a heart heart for?

Thank you.

And I might not agree for some of the lifestyle choices that some people make, but of course not.

I just want to say I'm a transgender male.

Are you comfortable telling me your story?

I've known that since like third grade.

And I'm currently 19, almost 20.

I didn't start going by like a different name until seventh and eighth grade.

I just don't know like with the

whole medical stuff like what's true, what's not, what's helpful.

First of all, thank you so much for that.

Yeah, of course.

so i'm gonna have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you which is i want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body i instead encourage you to work on what's going on in your brain first i think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis just someone that is going to listen to what you've gone through listen to what else is going on my prayer for you i actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born and i think that is something that you can achieve.

I think that with the right team and the right people, you don't have to wage war on your body.

You can learn to love your body.

Look at this exchange he had with one young man who wanted gays out of the MAGA movement.

Let me ask you a question.

Are you a Trump supporter?

Yes, sir.

So, are you a proud Trump supporter?

Of course.

So, are you sickened that he had a gay man speak at his convention?

Yes.

Then you're not a Trump supporter, my friend.

Thank you very much.

I just want to go through the list.

Guy Benson, no place in the conservative movement.

Dave Rubin, no place in the conservative movement.

Peter Thiel, no place in the conservative movement.

So just to go down the list, you just...

If they are openly, if they are supporting open homosexuality,

I'm going to ask a very respectful question, as respectfully as I can.

What does what they do in their private life concern you so much that you have to go up in front of a crowd?

It is against God.

That is.

So let me ask you.

Are you a Christian or not?

Do we live in a theocracy?

Yes or no?

No, that's a do we live in a theocracy?

You said you're a Christian.

You said a child.

I am a Christian.

And do you know what?

And guess what?

I will say this.

Part of being a Christian is appropriately interpreting what the theological says for the individual, but also means to be long-suffering and patient and loving and kind.

Jesus Christ talked to all people.

Jesus Christ went and did his ministry through Judea and Samaria.

And he had dinner with tax collectors and he had dinner with prostitutes.

And he did his ministry in every part of the Mediterranean.

What it means to be a Christian, my friend, is to be open-minded but firm in your beliefs so you can have that belief.

But if you say there's something inherently wrong with communicating or associating just because they make different personal decisions than you, then you, sir, are not a conservative.

Thanks for being here tonight.

You won't see any of this mentioned in the New York Times.

Nicole Hannah-Jones' goal was not honesty.

It was to make you hate Charlie and render toxic the turning point brand.

Jones offers a litany of snippets from Charlie's conversations, grabbing without context a random sample of his thoughts, putting aside how unfair this is to anyone who speaks on the radio for two or three hours a day in free form, loose, think-out-loud discussions, the intentionality of Jones's deception is apparent over and over again.

Two things she attacks him for that actually do have legs, but in which Charlie was expressing legitimate concerns that we should consider are as follows.

One was to suggest that Charlie believed in the great replacement theory, which she says argues that white Americans are being systematically replaced by multiculturalism and by black and brown immigrants.

Now look, here is what Charlie actually said.

Now, the southern border is, of course, the great replacement.

They're trying to replace us demographically.

They're trying to make the country less white.

They can't win the white vote.

No matter how hard they try, you look at the white vote, they can't win it.

They lost it by 20 and 17 percent in the last two presidential races.

They can't win it.

And so how do you win over white voters?

You don't.

You just bring in more third worlders and you dilute, aka, replace them.

In Soviet Russia, kulak was a label the Soviets gave to their designated class enemies.

If you were a small business owner or a successful peasant or really any kind of ordinary person who criticized or opposed the Soviet regime, they would then label you as a kulak.

In America, the regime is creating a new kulak.

The new kulak are ordinary middle Americans, real white people, are the acceptable target

of American life.

They're the ones it's okay to blame for literally everything bad in America.

What causes systemic racism?

Real whites.

Why is Joe Biden's approval rating terrible?

Real whites.

The left cannot comprehend that their policies fail because they're bad.

This is why the left literally needs endless, constantly increasing migration from the third world.

The great replacement strategy, which is well underway every single day on our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

How is he wrong?

How is he wrong?

He was making a point about the left's open disdain for white, rural, working-class MAGA men.

There are entire books written by leftists about how this group is to blame for society's problems.

One is called White Rural Rage, the threat to American Democracy, in which the authors blame white rural rage for endangering the future of the republic.

Take a listen to their views proudly shared on MSNBC last fall.

They're the most racist, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, and anti-gay geodemographic group in the country.

Second, they're the most conspiracist group.

QAnon support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism, and scientific skepticism, Obama burtherism.

Third, anti-democratic sentiments.

They're also the most strongly white nationalist and white Christian nationalist.

And fourth, they are most likely to excuse or justify violence.

So you mentioned a lot of negative factors about this demographic.

Tom, what else do they have in common?

Democrats have been told that in order to get rural voters, to get them to listen to you, you have to go there.

You have to really empathize with them.

You have to show them that you understand their lives.

You have to, you know, put on a Carhartt jacket and go down to somebody's farm.

Grab a beer.

And yeah, maybe milk a cow.

Oh, the disdain.

That book was a huge hit.

Lots of promotion on these left-wing channels.

While the left was attacking rural whites as the problem, Joe Biden was letting in some 10 to 20 million illegals from predominantly black and brown countries, effectively diluting the votes of those rageful white rural voters.

Listen to this Democrat from New York say the quiet part out loud.

Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants.

And

when I hear colleagues talk about

the doors of the inn being closed,

no room in the inn, I'm saying, you know, I need more people in my district, but just for redistricting purposes, and those members could clearly fit here.

Another bone Ms.

Jones has to pick with Charlie has to do with his take on Islam, his opinion that it is, quote, not compatible with Western civilization.

Again, a mainstream belief about what former Muslim Ayan Hirsi Ali, who had her genitals mutilated in the name of Islam, calls activist Muslims here in America with a subversion agenda.

Da'wah means literally to call

or to invite non-Muslims to Islam, to get existing Muslims

and turn them from just being people who identify as Muslim and worship Allah

and turn them into activists, change institutions, convert institutions to become Islamic and apply Sharia law.

In short, it is a very ambitious project to bring the world under Muslim dominion.

It is happening under the United States and one willing alliance has been with the far left.

And so if you want to have a young generation programmed on the one hand with woke ideas and on the other hand with Islamist ideas and their fusion, and that becomes your elite for the future, an elite that is going to be in charge of our universities, our schools, our corporations.

Ayan, in that interview, as in many others, speaks to what's happening in American cities already, like Dearborn, Michigan, now dominated by Muslims who seek not to live and let live, working side by side with their fellow Americans, but to Islamicize America.

In the U.S., Ayan explains, we used to pride ourselves on having Americanized Muslims with no desires to Islamicize our country.

And while plenty of those Muslims do remain, IAN reports that we now have activist Muslims beginning to dominate American cities who are far more radical, who feel comfortable openly shouting anti-American slogans, and who are very sophisticated and taking advantage of American constitutional rights to push an Islamist worldview.

Look, Charlie was not keen on the Muslim explosion happening in America.

That's true.

He didn't want cities dominated by five-time a day calls to prayer.

He wanted the U.S.

to remain a Christian nation because he thought Christianity is much more aligned with Western values than Islam is.

Here he is, in his own words.

The question is, is macro-Islam compatible with Western values?

Macro.

Of course it's not.

There are three major reasons why.

Islam does not believe in freedom of speech.

Islam does not believe in freedom of religion.

And Islam does not believe in separation of mosque and state.

Those three things are antithetical to the West.

In a Muslim-majority country, you are not, most Muslim-majority countries, you cannot criticize the Prophet Muhammad.

In most Muslim-majority countries, you do not have the same robust freedom of religion protections.

And finally, whereas we in the West are very careful to try to intermix religion and state, they are commanded to actually go into the state and try to change the state to be more Islamic around the core pillars of Islam.

Where did he get these beliefs?

From Muslims.

Watch.

Do you think Islam is compatible with Western civilization?

Absolutely not.

Western civilization was formed and shaped by philosophers and by Christianity.

Islam is anti-Christianity.

Islam orders the subjugation and the destruction and eventual eradication and elimination of Christianity.

It orders the destruction of secular societies.

We have freedom in the West, something that we value so much at this conference in America.

We have freedom.

We love freedom.

Islam is anti-freedom.

I have Turkish citizenship.

I lived in Turkey for a while.

Right now, it's very difficult for me to get back into Turkey because, despite Turkey being a secular country, and part of NATO, I have multiple lawsuits against me by the Turkish government because I dared to say things like, quote, the Quran is a book of ignorance.

For that, they are suing me.

The Turkish government, I can't go back there.

There is no freedom.

There is no free speech.

If you give the power, you will lose everything.

You may think that made Charlie a bigot, but ask yourself, looking at what's happening in London with the rapes by Muslim immigrants in France and in Germany, do you want tens of millions of Muslims committed to the tenets of Islam taking over as a majority here?

Do you?

Jones finishes her hit piece by attacking Charlie for Turning Point's professor watch list, which invites college students to name professors who push leftist propaganda in the classroom.

Good.

We need an outlet for these students to complain, so fellow students can avoid these classes if they want to.

She cites the case of Angel Jones, now a professor at a university in Maryland, whose work, Nicole says, focuses on educational inequity.

It's a bit more loaded than that, Nicole.

Stand by.

Angel Jones landed on the list, writes Nicole, after publishing an article citing research about how distressing it is for black people to go to work after witnessing news coverage of police killings of blacks.

If white people did that after black on white crime, we'd never work again.

We took a look at Angel Jones' scholarship, and here is what we learned.

Her areas of expertise include racial microaggressions, racial battle fatigue, and gendered racism.

Her work, she boasts, is grounded in critical race theory and critical race feminism.

Nicole claims that Angel Jones received death threats after landing on the turning point list.

I would cry, claims the professor.

I was very fearful.

I was anxious and afraid to go to class.

After Charlie was assassinated, Angel Jones, quote, refused to mourn him, explaining, I cannot have empathy for him losing his life when he put mine at risk, just because I dared to advocate for social justice.

So he endangered her life by putting her on a list of woke professors that students might want to avoid at her college?

Sure.

Sure.

Just how bad is Professor Jones?

She says she showed her class a video of herself bashing Charlie right after he was murdered.

One male student took his backpack and left.

Nicole is sure to point out in her piece, he was white, a white man, who had the nerve to ask Angel Jones if she thought her message might wind up radicalizing students.

After he left, Professor Jones tells us, she was nervous.

After all, there's a turning point chapter on campus.

So nervous, in fact, she switched her classes to virtual.

You see, she can dump on someone beloved by millions of Americans before he's even in the grave while many of her students are still mourning and proudly make her students sit and listen to that.

But if there's any mild pushback, she is unsafe.

She is the victim, always the victim.

Maybe she couldn't go to work the next day, another day off, sensing a pattern.

I don't believe her death threat claim.

She didn't get death threats over landing on Charlie's list.

That's BS.

She's a liar, in my opinion.

She lives her life enmeshed in social justice, and that is the lens through which she views everything.

That means permanent victimhood if you are a woke black woman.

Whites are to blame for everything, and white males in particular are a threat to your very existence.

Normal black Americans do not think like this.

They love everyone.

They don't view race as controlling.

Of course, Professor Jones could not stand Charlie Kirk, who devoted himself to ending this kind of vile race baiting and wanted people to see that race is just a social construct, that we all share the same basic DNA, that God loves each one of us, irrespective of skin color.

By the way, the same poor victimized professor said after Erica Kirk's extraordinary act of selflessness, forgiving Charlie's killer, quote, I wonder if she'd be as willing to forgive if the shooter were black or an immigrant.

These social justice warriors are deranged about race.

They cannot see their fellow Americans, even a grieving widow, through anything other than a racial lens.

Then she said Erica's promise to keep Turning Point going, quote, sounds like a warning of violence to come.

Doesn't she sound lovely?

This is Jones' poster girl for the sad black woman victimized by evil Charlie's professor watch list.

Then Jones raises a person named Ash Lazarus Orr,

who has a similar sense of foreboding right now.

Orr, she says, is a trans activist who, while never named by Kirk, says his violent rhetoric helped fuel an environment that makes transgender Americans vulnerable to violence.

So basically, wherever Orr is, Charlie's thought crimes are endangering him or her.

whatever.

You see, it's the trans people who are vulnerable to violence, not Charlie, who was killed by a man dating a trans person who felt Charlie had too much hate.

The New York Times wants you to be super clear on that.

Orr is quoted in the piece saying, No one should be killed for their beliefs, no matter how harmful those beliefs might be.

But but?

There's no but, Nicole.

There's no but after that statement, New York Times.

No one should be killed for their beliefs, period.

Orr goes on, but we are watching our rights being stripped away.

We are having our friends' lives cut short.

Your friends' lives are being cut short?

I think you have that reversed, sir.

And then Jones reiterates what she and Orr are actually mad about, that things are changing in America, in large part because of people like Charlie.

and their unapologetic adherence to the truth.

Quote, in just a few short years, she writes, Orr has watched as the momentum toward recognizing the full humanity and rights of transgender people has collapsed.

Put another way, the gender madness has been exposed for the evil it is, and people are running in the opposite direction.

Thank God.

Jones goes on, sadly concluding that, quote, Kirk's rhetoric of Christian white nationalism, anti-transgender, anti-woke culture warframing.

This is not on the edge anymore.

Well, Charlie was, of course, a Christian, comma, and a nationalist.

He did not consider himself a Christian nationalist, which he said many times in which Nicole Hannah Jones ignores.

And yes, he was white, Nicole, and did not feel guilty about it at all.

That really galls her.

Jones wraps it all up, where else?

On the premise that this is really Donald Trump's fault, because he called white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, quote, very fine people.

Really, New York Times?

Just as we saw with the he wants gays to be stoned to death lie, this has been fact-checked even by the left-wing Snopes as a lie.

But hey, New York Times, you do you.

In conclusion, Nicole Hannah Jones leaves little doubt what the premise of her piece is.

Quote, there has been an extreme shift in America, she writes.

The serious treatment we are seeing of Charlie's ideas confirms for Jones, quote, that white supremacy and racism is not just a conservative idea, but a legitimate one.

So there you have it.

White supremacist racism is a conservative thing, and Americans' love for Charlie marks an extreme shift toward white supremacy and racism.

That was Charlie, she wants us to believe, a white supremacist and a racist, for saying true things about race, the trans movement, Islam, and immigration.

Got it.

What a dumpster fire.

Shame on Nicole Hannah-Jones and shame on the Times for publishing this piece.

Charlie Kirk was brilliant.

He loved everyone and saw every person as God's sacred child.

He did not believe in dividing people by race.

He did not believe in ostracizing gays.

He did not believe one could change one's biological sex, nor that people confused in this regard were not worthy of our love and attention.

He believed in a strong border.

He held no disdain in his heart for working class America and felt defensive of them when they came under the left's ruthless attacks.

He believed America is the greatest country on earth that has ever been or will ever be, and wanted it to thrive as a loving, ethical, Christian land.

This is Charlie Kirk, the man who inspired a worldwide revival of faith, whose movement, as he hoped it would, will now long outlive him.

Who we lost to an assassin's bullet too soon and too violently at age 31.

Loving husband to Erica, adoring father of a little girl and a baby boy,

a son, a brother, a friend, and who does not deserve this scorn heaped upon him.

Charlie, we've got your back.

We know who you were,

and we already miss you terribly.

This is not just the flash in the pan movement.

We're going to become an institution to give them the power and the confidence to stand up and let their voice be heard.

I started this organization when I was 18 years old.

I decided not to go to college.

I didn't get in my dream school, which was the United States Military Academy at West Point.

I have this idea to galvanize and motivate the future youth of this country around a core set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians.

And the ideas are really: America is the greatest country in the history of the world, Constitution is the greatest political document ever written, and free enterprise the most assured way to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.

Those are the three big ideas.

And I think that's something that can win.

This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock.

This generation is the most conservative generation that we have seen in well over 50 years, and the numbers show it.

What young people especially are screaming at is they say, give me a structure that I can live my life by.

And especially with young men, more challenging of them.

More saying, you know what?

Honestly, I'm not going to talk down to you.

Stop being a boy and become a man.

You want to learn what that means?

Come to church and I'll tell you what it means to become a man.

Because we have the greatest story ever told.

What can I do to save the country?

You answer that question every single day because you are doing the work to save this beautiful republic.

You are doing something that is bigger than you.

If everything

completely goes away, how do you want to be remembered?

I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith.

That would be the most important thing.

Most important thing is my faith in my life.

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