Megyn Kelly Makes the Reluctant Case For Cuomo, and Winsome Earle-Sears on the Racism and Misogyny of the Left | Ep. 1178

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the debate. It was the last debate between these three guys, and I'm sorry, but it's poor New York.
Poor New York.

We're about to elect a guy who looks like a radical Muslim socialist as the mayor of the greatest city in the world.

And this guy, this question of this Imam who we talked about yesterday, didn't even come up. It wasn't even a thing.
Like, no one's making a thing out of that on the debate stage.

So he actually, like, actually physically embraced this Imam who testified for the defense at the trial of the blind sheikh in 1993 after the first bombing of the World Trade Center, literally was a defense witness.

And

Zoram Mamdan, he's got his arms around him, smiling in a photo, calls him just recently a pillar of the New York community. And no one seems to think this is important.

Now, Andrew Cuomo did bring up this other person. He was photographed when he went to Uganda for his wedding at his palace.
He wants to pretend he's working class. He's not working class.

Look, here he is standing with this woman. Her name is Rebecca Kadaga.

And Andrew Cuomo laid into him for this, which was a fine attack. I don't know why we didn't hear about the Imam, but here's what Cuomo said about this woman.

Take a picture with Rebecca Kadaga, Deputy Prime Minister of Uganda. You take a picture with your father.
You're smiling. He's smiling.
She's known as Rebecca

Jay Killer Kadaga. Question.
You're a citizen of Uganda. You took the picture.
You said you didn't know who she was. It turns out you did.

How do you not renounce your citizenship or demand BDS against Uganda for imprisoning people who are gay

just by their sexual orientation? Isn't that a basic violation of human rights? Thank you, Getzer.

My politics is consistent, and my politics is built on a belief in human rights for all people. And that extends to queer and trans New Yorkers, and it extends to queer and trans Ugandans.

And had I known that the first deputy minister was the architect of that legislation, I would not have taken that photo.

Okay.

So he's from Uganda. The guy's a citizen of Uganda.

And he doesn't know that this woman who is at the top of the leadership structure in Uganda is so far anti-LGBTQ rights that she looks like she's basically an

like a David Duke type on those issues. She pushed harsh, harsh anti-LGBTQ policies that included life imprisonment for gay people just for being gay.

That's the story in Uganda. In 2012, then Speaker Kadaga infamously said she was passing a draconian law imposing severe penalties against practicing homosexuals as a Christmas gift for supporters.

She said, you want that law as a Christmas gift? We're giving it to you. So she wants and passed a law that

made it a life imprisonment offense for people who are gay. That's terrific.
What a nice lady who he was posing with for photos.

This is not like some random, it's not like you were, you're truly going like through Uganda on a tourist trip and posing,

you know, with some random person who turns out to to be really harshly anti-gay. This is his country.
Okay, it's his country. She's a very well-known politician.
And

the laws in Uganda in general are terrible for gays. It's got one of the world's harshest laws for gay people.

Same-sex activity is illegal for both men and women in Uganda and does require life imprisonment, thanks to his good buddy

who he posed in the photos with. Chris Lynn, who's the co-founder of the Stonewall Democratic Club in New York.
This is the city's first LGBTQ club.

He said he's either a liar or incredibly ill-informed. Come on, no one thinks he's that ill-informed.
He knew. And this imam he was with, who's like totally pro-terror, pillar of the community,

he hasn't even tried to distance himself from that. He hasn't even tried to say, I didn't know about that one.
He's like, yeah, pillar. Okay, that's who we're about to elect.
I'm sorry.

It's,

there's no choice right now. You're going to have to vote Cuomo.
I'm sorry.

With all due respect to Curtis Lewa, I can't stand Cuomo, but Curtis can't win. And we're now so tight in terms of the election, you got to get real.

How are we going to elect this guy, this imam-loving, this terror-loving, imam-loving

Mom Donnie as the next mayor of New York?

Curtis Liwa, I respect. It's just he wasn't able to get it done.
His numbers are too low. He's not a realistic candidate.
That's the truth.

So I'm sorry. It's disgusting, but

I have to go with the guy who's going to like harass me and kill off grannies over the guy who wants to potentially actively turn New York into one big mosque.

I just like.

Okay. Here is an extraordinary exchange.
Poor Curtis. I mean, he's really in the thick of it and I feel for him.

But he called into, we mentioned this yesterday, and I'll get to the debate in one second. He called into WABC, his radio station where he has a radio show and got into it with Sid Rosenberg.

We had part of it yesterday. Now we've heard more.
Listen to this exchange between these two guys as they went at it.

I feel like you're running against Mom Dani anymore. I really don't.

This hatred for Cuomo, which you've got a hundred times over, like Janice Dean has, has enveloped you to the point where I think you're losing sight of who you're running against.

I go to your page, I got to go 12 goddamn tweets before I see Mom Dani's name. Let me tell you, I'm talking to WABC now.
I'm hurt. I have armed security guards now protecting my life and Nancy's life.

I've been bribed by the billionaires to drop out of here.

If anything happens to me or anything happens to my wife because of this frenzy that I hear constantly coming from some of your colleagues here at WABC, it's on you guys and you gals.

Even when the Gottis and Gambinos put a hit on me, five hollow Point bullets, I never had armed security. The frenzy that is coming out of people's mouths.
He's running a horrible campaign, sick.

Can you at least acknowledge that? No, I don't know because I want you or him to win. Now we're 10 minutes in and you're still talking about Cuomo.
I mean, what's wrong with you?

You got to beat Mom Dani. You got to get over it.
You're going to lose. And you're going to lose badly.
Embarrassingly. You know this? You're the one who said that Cuomo would win the primary.

Didn't Didn't you? No, no, no. First, yes, I did, and everybody else, because nobody saw Mom Dani coming.
So stock with the Cuomo. I saw Mom Dan Dan Durtis.

I talked to you yesterday. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't. WABC has turned on me.
This is not about ABC. It's about Sid.
Forget about ABC. No, no, no, no.
This is about WABC.

Curtis, you made your point.

You made your point about the station. Now it's Sid and Curtis.
Trying to have an adult conversation. The way you're running your campaign right now, you're going to lose and lose badly.

You're still not talking about Mom Dani. You're talking about WABC and Cuomo.
That's not going to win you this goddamn race.

So this is the position that New Yorkers are in. You can hear Sid's frustration because he knows what we all know, which is Curtis is going to lose and Mom Dani is going to win.

And the only possible way of stopping it at this point is for Curtis to drop out and to beg his supporters to vote for Cuomo and for Cuomo to give Curtis a role high up in the Cuomo administration if he were able to pull it off.

But even the the polls suggest that even if he got every single one of the Curtis voters, he'd still be behind Mom Donny. So, even that is not a guarantee.

This is all like desperation by the non-Mom Donnie fans to try to stop his momentum because he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. And he's charming, and he smiles a lot.

He's a lot like Barack Obama, only I think far more radical.

This is a scary time for America, for New York.

You know, we've got a Muslim mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, who's threatening to throw out white people who object to certain disturbing behaviors over in the community, calling them racists.

We've got Omar Fateh running for Minneapolis mayor. This guy also Muslim.

Like, are these people,

what exactly are they going to do to Minneapolis? I mean, truly, because the Midwest is becoming heavily Muslim. Do we care?

Does anyone care that Islam is not consistent with the patriotic goals of the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, and the fundamental Judeo-Christian foundation of this country. Does anyone care?

Okay, you can call me a bigot. I've been called it before.
I don't care. This is not what we want.
We do not want city after city turning Muslim and electing Muslim leaders.

I just watched a half an hour interview with Mamdani last night where he was going on and on about the mosques in New York and driving up the Muslim population and how it's his dream to see the BDS movement spread far and wide, you know, condemning Israel and boycotting Israel.

And how his whole reason for becoming a politician was Palestinian rights. That's the thing he cared most about, Palestinian rights.

By the time he actually got going on the mayoral campaign, he realized he had to stop saying things like that. He had to start saying, oh, all I care about is economic inequality in New York.

No, he actually said that was his number one thing, Palestinian rights. And his dream was to bring more politicians like that into the fold in New York.
This is going to be the New York mayor.

So, I mean, it's go time on the decisions. And don't like, if this can happen in New York, this can happen in your city.

I'm sorry, but it's time to just say no.

I respectfully dissent. You want to come over here as a Muslim.
You want to be raised as a Muslim. You want to totally assimilate to American culture and values.
You're welcome.

But you talk about how your number number one thing is Palestinian rights, and your big push is to boycott and divest from Israel, and you want to run for mayor as New York while you're literally embracing a terror-supporting imam and on a debate stage questioning why others haven't been to

this mosque or that in New York as though that's a requirement to become mayor. You're out.

Cuomo,

his biggest shot at Momdani last night sounded just like his other big shot at Momdani in the last debate. Here it is in SOP 21.

And I allocated more funding for housing than any governor in the history of the state of New York. All right.
I did things. You have never had a job.
You've never accomplished anything.

There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for eight and a half million lives. You don't know how to run a government.
You don't know how to handle an emergency.

And you've literally never proposed a bill on anything that you're not talking about in your campaign.

You had the worst attendance record in the assembly and you gave yourselves the highest raise in the United States of America.

You went from $110,000 to $140,000 and then you never showed up for work and you missed 80% of the votes. Shame on you.
Shame on you.

It was good and it was more fiery than he was in the last debate, but it wasn't great. Where is the stuff I just said? That's actually what's going to animate New Yorkers.

You're not going to get any one of the 9% Muslim voters, Andrew Cuomo, not one. So don't bother pandering.
Like, just say what's real. We all know what's real.

This guy is so radical. It's incredible to me.

I feel like the voters of San Francisco would reject this guy. And New York City, the main target of 9-11, is about

to elect this guy who's not even sorry for his bestie imam pillar of the community comments.

Here is what Mom Dami had to say about Cuomo.

He brought up the sex pest allegations, which of course, of course he did. It was a smart thing to do, and he did it.

Sat 20.

One of those women, Charlotte Bennett, is here in the audience this evening.

You sought to access her private gynecological records.

She She cannot speak up for herself because you lodged a defamation case against her. I, however, can speak.
What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harassed?

If you want to be in government, then you have to be serious and mature.

There were allegations of sexual harassment.

They were then went to five district attorneys, fully litigated for four years. The cases were dropped, right? You know that as a fact.
So everything you just stated, you just said was a misstatement.

Okay, just because a prosecutor didn't see crimes that were committed doesn't mean he didn't do it. Noticeably absent from his defense was,

I didn't do it.

It isn't true.

Like that, that would be a good place to start. He can't say that, obviously.
We know why.

I don't, I mean, I think we all know what's going to happen in this race, and it's going to be positively devastating for New York, and I'm very sad about it, really sad that we're in this position.

It's a crown jewel of the United States, and we're about to hand it over to

a radically left person.

Some Republicans are excited about it because they're looking forward to making the point about how radical Democrats are for this guy's term. I get it, but it's not worth it.

And some Democrats are looking forward to it because they want socialism. They actually think it's going to work no matter how many examples you give to them of it not working.

And you will run out of other people's money. There's not enough.
Already, millionaires and billionaires are fleeing New York. I told you the story the other day.

Even our apartment, which we sold in 2021, has lost 30% of its value just over the last four years. Like it's on the market again.

And we saw that it's down 30% in the asking price from when we sold it. 30%, almost like over 30%.

That's because people are fleeing. They'll take any price right now to get out of the city.

Say a prayer for New York. Okay, let's keep going.

Amazingly in the news,

the attacks on J.D. Vance have begun.
We're not even a year into Donald Trump's presidency.

And already the left is laying the foundation, which we knew they would, but it's already starting, that J.D. Vance is even scarier.
He's even more radical than Donald Trump.

He's really the one that we have to fear.

This is Jen Saki,

who appeared on this crazy ass podcast, which we talked about yesterday. And

I don't even know this person. I can't remember her name, but she's very radical.
Jennifer Welsh. Is that her name? Yeah, she's a nutcase.

And she's been getting more and more vocal because she says really radical, weird leftist things. She's a moron.
She literally has no political background or anything else to recommend her opinion.

But here she is hosting Jen Saki. And here are Jen Jensaki's deep thoughts on J.D.
Vance, SOT16.

I think the little Manchurian candidate, JD Vance,

wants to be president.

How is he anything else?

I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife.

Are you okay? Please blink four times. We'll come over here.
We'll save you.

You're a bitch. And that he's willing to do anything to get there.
I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smart in some ways.
And he's young and ambitious.

And ambitious and agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now, what's also true, though, is J.D.

Vance is not, he's in some ways goodish on paper. If you like what he believes in, I don't know.
But I don't... I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him.
No way. No way.

I don't think so either. There's no way.

These women know nothing. He's, right? And he's got, he just is a little odd.

And so Trump's odd in a different way. So I'm skeptical of that.

So yeah, he's got to, I mean, the whole, everything going on right now, and I think we have to be very clear-eyed about this, is about trying to

manipulate the public around elections.

There's so much to digest there. Okay.
The fact that these two far leftists, I don't know who the other Nimrod is next to that first hateful person, but.

The fact that these two blonde women, these two Trump-hating blonde women whose only badge of honor is their hatred of Trump, their TDS, TDS, they're going to weigh in. No way, JD Vance.

You don't know shit, you absolute fucking morons. You know nothing.
You know nothing about MAGA. You know nothing about JD.
You know nothing about Trump.

And I love, love, love that some portion of the left is being misled by these three losers. This is great.
This is wonderful for team sanity.

JD Vance 100% can do it. He's going to do it.
Sorry to break it to you, ladies. He's going to.

Why is a 46-year-old woman, Gensaki, using the term Riz? That's already been rejected by my 12-year-old. Okay, so get with the program.

You only sound old when you try to sound like a pre-pubescent teenage boy or girl. Okay, Jen, Dora, Dora the Explorer.
That's how we see Jen Saki.

So she doesn't know what she's talking about.

The nerve of her to describe Usha as some sort of a hostage. Now, listen, first of all, you're a white woman and you should not be talking about a brown woman this way.

Your party sets these rules and you have to live by them. When a brown person has opinion of any kind, you have to put on your listening ears and maybe take a beep.
We've heard that from your side.

All right. So you are not allowed to say that Usha Vance is in a hostage situation just because she's married to the current vice president whom she happens to adore.

Jensaki, I guarantee you don't know Usha Vance. You've never spent two minutes with Usha Vance.

Those of us who have know one of the first things you notice about her is how deeply in love she is with her husband. Why don't you read Hill Billy Elegy?

Why don't you listen to two minutes of what J.D. Vance has said in his public interviews? These two have a classic, wonderful, moving, deep American love story.

In many ways, Usha saved J.D. His whole life is a story of women coming to his rescue.
His big sister, Lindsay, when his mom was hooked on heroin and drugs and bringing man after man into their home.

It was a rough upbringing.

His aunt Wee, his grandma, of course, course, his mamma, who was the primary and dominant figure in his life. And then he went off to law school.

And it was Amy Chua, professor there, and Usha, who saved him from the demons that can come from a lifetime of being brought up in that kind of an environment. And those two have...

a relationship that will never be broken. Usha is far from a hostage.
If anything, she's a rescuer. She's somebody who swooped in and was exactly what J.D.
Vance needed at exactly the right time.

And he had, I'm sure, and she hasn't spoken to me about this personally, but I'm sure JD's bare-knuckle brawling, you know, background and

self-effacing

personality and approach to life was probably very appealing to her. She's from more of a buttoned-up background.

So fuck off, Genzaki, for trying to psychoanalyze Usha as a hostage, which again, according to the rules from your side, you're not allowed to do. Put on your listening ears and maybe take a beat.

Then she refers to J.D. as a Manchurian candidate.
What does that mean? Manchurian candidate is somebody who gets like sneaked into the presidential role and is controlled by a foreign country.

What foreign country is J.D. Vance controlled by? Who's controlling him? J.D.
Vance is actually very focused on the United States of America.

He's the one, more than Trump even, who doesn't want us to get involved in these international conflicts and create situations where we might have no choice but to put American boots on the ground.

Who is controlling him?

Who is it? You fail to say. You just pass gratuitous insults off as somehow sophisticated political analysis, and the two morons across from you had no idea what you were saying, so they let it slide.

He's a chameleon. She has the nerve to say he, J.D.
Vance, is a chameleon. This from Jen Saki, whose nominee for the presidency a few months back was Kamala Harris.
Have you no decency, man?

Ah, ah my sorrow

joy cometh in the morning that that kamala harris i i think you have your chameleons confused gensaki

so that's what's happening over on the left and by the way a gratuitous insult that he's ambitious right like literally every person who ever ran for vice president or president.

Okay, I guess we can pretend it's just a JD Vance thing, whatever, floats your boat.

Okay, let's keep going. Sonny Hostin is out there with some comments about the white people in her neighborhood.

Now, not for nothing, but if you take a picture, if you take a look at Sonny Hostin over the years, she's getting progressively whiter.

Like over and over in these pictures, I don't know what she's doing with her makeup or whatever, but she lives in a white neighborhood and she looks like time after time you see these photos of her where her makeup is about as light as mine is.

So I don't know how she feels about white people, but every time she speaks out about them publicly, she's got the blonde hair tips and nine out of her 10 appearances and whatever.

She's ripping on them as racist. So I'm kind of confused about where she stands on whites.
The whites who live in her very tony neighborhood in Purchase, New York, she thinks are racists.

She surrounded herself with a bunch of racists and chosen to raise her children

around a bunch of racists. How do I know? She just told us.
She was talking about

how she allegedly had to go out there and warn the cops in her neighborhood about her son who is running and training for the junior Olympics, who is black, that he's hers.

Well, I'll let her tell you. Watch.

As a mother of black children, I know that black boys are not given the presumption of innocence and the presumption of youth.

She's calling the police and saying they're trying to steal her car and they're 11 years old. They don't know how to drive.

And so for me, what was interesting was I have had to be in the position where I have gone to my local police department because I know my son is going to be training for the junior Olympics, running around the neighborhood in an all-white neighborhood.

And I have brought him to the police and said, he belongs to me. This is my son.
Do not harass him. Do not stop him.

Okay. She was talking about this new Netflix show that is called The Perfect Neighbor that documents a white woman shooting and killing dead her black neighbor through a closed door.

They had been having some sort of a dispute and it had been getting more and more heated and the black neighbor's children had bothered in some way.

The white woman, they had a heated exchange and the black mother came over to, you know, settle the dispute in some way. And this white woman shot her through the front door.

By the way, the woman was charged with manslaughter with a firearm. She tried to argue self-defense and stand your ground.
It didn't work. The jury found her guilty.

She was sentenced to 25 years in prison. So that's what happened in that case.

And Sonny Hostin wants to liken her neighborhood and apparently her neighbors to this woman talking about how, I guess she thinks she's surrounded by racists and she had to go down to the local police to say, he's mine.

What does this mean? He's mine? So I guess he gets like, her son went to Harvard. She's still trying to pass him off like he's a Trayvon Martin character.
Would you take a seat and calm down?

If you think you're surrounded by so many white racists and racist cops, why don't you move? You don't need to live. Oh, I'll tell you why, because she's living in a multi-million dollar mansion.

Here's the video. She sat for, she let People Magazine come in and take video of it.
Look at this palace. This is poor Sonny Hostin, who basically wants you to think she's living in some, you know,

working class, terrible white neighborhood with a bunch of white racist backwaters who hate black kids with their white racist cop force who wants to kill her black boy who's just jogging through the neighborhood.

This is such a bunch of bullshit. She lives like a queen.
Her son went to Harvard. They're fine.
Most people would give their eye teeth to get a house like this in Purchase New York.

So why doesn't she just STF you? I've had it with these fakers who have all the advantages of being born and living in America and the American dream coming true for them. She's a successful attorney.

In addition to this job on the The Viewer, she gets millions of dollars a year and still can't let go of this underprivileged status. Like I'm

just a victim of racism everywhere and my poor Harvard educated son is too. And these racist cops would have killed him.

They would have shot him on his runs had I not paid a visit to say, he is mine, Sonny Hostin. So this one you have to let live.
What the she, what world is she living in? It's completely made up.

It's made up.

There's no gratitude for what this country's given her. Zero.
She's not grateful, just like Michelle Obama. Not grateful at all.

She's another Karine Jean-Pierre. All about race.
It's all about her race. That's what leads for her whenever she enters a room, no matter how many blessings the country has bestowed on her.

And it's pathetic. All right, we got to move on because my next guest is in a very, very heated race.
And the future of the Commonwealth of Virginia does depend on her winning it.

Unfortunately, her adversary, who appears to actually be a true coward, I mean, you watch this Abigail Spanberger in these debates, and all you think is, this is a coward.

She won't stand up for girls' rights or women's rights when it comes to the trans issue. She won't stand up for the rights of Virginians versus illegals.

And she won't even stand up for people who are across the aisle from her who are being threatened with murder or their children are by the radical who's running to be attorney general on the same ticket she's on, the Dems.

So up next is Virginia governor candidate, the current lieutenant governor of Virginia, Winsom Earl Sears. Stay tuned for that.

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All month, we've been telling you about the fallout of Democrat Virginia Attorney General candidate Jay Jones's sick texts, where he fantasizes about the murder of a Republican colleague and the murder of that colleague's children.

The scandals having a big impact in the Virginia Attorney General's race and has led to a tightening at the gubernatorial level as well.

Here's a reminder of the viral moment from the October 9th debate between Republican Winsom Earl Sears and Democrat Abigail Spamberger, both running for governor. Watch.

Why my opponent won't say beyond its abhorrent and disgusting why she won't say it is not okay

and that he must leave the race because Jay Jones advocated the murder, Abigail, the murder of a man, a former speaker, as well as his children who were two years, two and five years old.

You have little girls.

Would it take him pulling the trigger? Is that what would do it? And then you would say he needs to get out of the race, Abigail?

You have nothing to say? Abigail.

What if he said it about your two children, your three children? Is that when you would say he should get out of the race, Abigail?

You're running to be governor.

For the listening audience, Abigail Spamberger just stands staring blankly ahead. Does not look at Winsom Sears, does not make a comment, has no comment, and that's clear.

The polls have tightened a bit since the scandal erupted, but the Democrats Bamberger still leads by about six points in the real clear politics average of polls.

Here now to tell us what to expect in the final 12 days before the election, Lieutenant Governor of Virginia Winsom Earl Sears.

Thank you so much for coming on, Lieutenant Governor. It's a pleasure to meet you.

I'm worried. I'm worried because I want you to win, but she's been leading in every single poll that's been taken.
I can't find one in which you're leading. So what can be done in 12 days?

Well, you saw what happened in one night, and there are all kinds of things that are happening. But We have the poll and the poll, and she's not acting, by the way.

Abigail Spanberg is not acting like she's seven points ahead.

You look at her, and she knows that her polls are telling her what our polls are telling us: that we're either minus two, we're break even, or I'm up to.

And that's why you see that she's doing all she's doing.

She's pulling out all the stops, she's bringing everybody in the world that she wants that she thinks she will help her, but it won't help her because it really comes back down to common sense.

It comes back down to she is not supportive of a different political side. You know, her nominee for Attorney General Jay Jones advocated for political murder.
And she says, what? She's disgusted.

Is that all? She's disgusted about political murder. Well, yeah, she's not going to make it because the people of Virginia want somebody with a backbone and not cunning.

After that debate, she went on just the other day with Katie Couric, and this subject came up again. And she seemed more irritated about how the texts came out than she did about the content of them.

Let me play you SAP 36.

He wrote some texts and they were released basically advocating for political violence against his opponent.

And the Democrats in your state and other states, I understand, have renounced his rhetoric, but they have not

called for him to drop out of the race. And I'm just curious, why is that?

I think there's a couple elements here, and I'll speak broadly, but also reflecting my own opinions.

These texts are years old, and so they have been held for years

and not released over the summer where it would have been a valuable bit of information for voters to have. There could have been a different name put on the ballot.

And so people can choose

how they view these texts

and

view, frankly, actions of the last four years of our current Attorney General who's running for re-election.

And certainly, you know, I make no bones about it. The decision is harder.
These texts were abhorrent.

But it is ultimately up to individual voters to make a decision at this moment

in terms of how they wish to proceed.

Your thoughts on that answer.

Yeah. So what you saw there is Abigail Spanberger is not a profile in courage, and all she cares about is when the texts came out.
What does it matter?

It matters that murder was advocated for one's political opponent, Jay Jones, and Jay Jones also advocated for the murder, two bullets to the head, of his little children, two and five years old at the time.

And she's concerned about when it came. You know what?

What I think about now is that Katie Corick's sister was a senator, a state senator right here in Virginia.

And certainly I'm thinking, Katie is thinking there's something incongruent with all this, that as a matter of fact, we had a Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, and he was

found to be either the one under the KKK sheets or the one in blackface, and that was 30 some years ago. And still the Democrats called for him to leave office.

These text messages advocating for murder were three years old. And we're still talking about murder.
And Abigail, instead of her saying, well, you know, we've just got to get you out of the race.

No, no, no. She says the people of Virginia must decide.
Again, not a profile in courage. She knows what to do.
So does it mean that as a Republican, we are not safe?

But remember, Abigail is also the one who told her supporters, let your rage fuel you. What rage, Abigail? And fuel what, Abigail?

And against whom or to what end, Abigail, you're running to be governor.

These people who say, these Democrats, who say that they love everyone more than any Republican ever could, actually they don't.

And the ones who say, these Democrats, that they are so very tolerant aren't exactly tolerant, unless, of course, you believe their own views. We can't have somebody like this in Virginia.

So that's why you see the polls have tightened. She knows the truth.
We're going to win this.

What do you make of the fact that she refuses to be clear on whether she would rescind Governor Youngkin's executive order banning boys from girls' spaces, saying you cannot have boys in girls' locker rooms and bathrooms and so on?

She seems to want to have it both ways because her position, if you sift through it and it takes some time, seems to be, I think it's up to the locals. Let the locals decide.

But she won't just come out and say, I'm going to rescind the order. She wants to sort of pacify.
So what do you make of that? And what will happen on that issue if she becomes governor?

We already know what's going to happen.

She's she's going to make sure that all of virginia adheres to boys uh being fully undressed in locker rooms with girls and men also because it's happening in virginia where adult men are now going into girls locker rooms in bathrooms etc

and the reason i say that is because she didn't just support that idea she voted for it

so let's just see what the voting record says and she's trying to run from that record so let's not ask if she supports she voted for it. It's what she wants.

And when I asked her point blank on the debate stage, what if your young child, your little girl, came to you crying that she was forced to undress in front of a man in the locker room?

What would you say to her? And Abigail said nothing. She had a smirk on her face.
She adjusted her posture and, you know, like, who are you to talk to me? Who are you? You know,

but

that's why we're going to win because people see the real Abigail and it doesn't look like like she cares. Well, that's, I can't believe she's doing as well as she's doing.

I realize Virginia's gone blue, and Trump didn't win Virginia, though it was tight, tighter than expected. But it's just gotten so blue from all those D.C.

federal government workers who live in northern Virginia.

But given everything that's happened in Loudoun County with the girl being the victim of a sexual assault in a bathroom by a boy, we've had a couple of incidents there.

There's another big case in the news where a so-called trans boy, a girl pretending to be a boy, went into a boy's locker room and started recording actual boys and the boys got suspended from school for objecting to it.

Like Virginia's lost its mind on this issue. I can't believe there's not still a majority who see the insanity and are ready to vote for you and not her.
This must be a deal breaker.

Well, some people in Virginia have lost their minds, but the people with common sense haven't.

And my policies will work for Democrats' children, Independents' independents' children, Republicans' children. Here's what we do know to be true in Virginia.

When the real polls are being looked at, and that's where people are actually showing up because, you know, we've early voting started way in September 19th.

Those polls that are Republican leaning, we are showing up at 80 to 90 percent to vote. In the Democratic polls, they are showing up at 50 to 60 percent.
So those are the polls that really matter.

And we have been winning every single week since voting started. And we are still converting people.
The debate is converting people.

Subsequent actions after the debate, still converting people. And just today, I was hearing about one gentleman, he said there are five women who are Democrats in his office, absolute Democrats.

And one of them came and said, I'm going to vote for Winsom. And another few are not far behind.
So we are turning hearts and minds because people just want to live in peace.

You know, you do what you want to do and let me live too. Don't want to control my life.
What is really turning people, I think, also are the pocketbook issues. I don't want to pay more in taxes.

I worked hard for this money.

I ought to be able to keep as much of it as possible. We've returned $9 billion back to Virginians.
B, $9 billion. They like that.
Abigail was never a part of any of that, doesn't know how to do it.

We've brought all these jobs to Virginia, just announced a $3.5 billion Merck investment in Virginia, a $4.5 billion

investment from AstraZeneca, a $5 billion investment in Virginia from Eli Lilly. These are real jobs.
These are real families. This is creating generational wealth.

Buy a house, get on the path to having a will so we can have something to fight over. I mean, these are real issues, keeping people safe, no sanctuary state in Virginia.

We have found 4,000 criminals who are legally here on their way to some form of deportation.

The number three MS-13 gang leader right here, Trender Agua, cartels, Communist Chinese party leaders, they are gone.

My opponent, Abigail Spanberger, has voted to keep every single one of them here when she voted against the Lee and Riley Act.

Let me play her on this issue on whether the local police and the state police should cooperate with ICE. This is her in June, 40.

Anyone

Not only is it not actually doing the work of ensuring that those who have committed crimes are out of our communities or held accountable, but it's actually a distraction of resources,

both in terms of personnel hours and money, from actually keeping our communities safe from any sort of community, by ensuring any type of community policing, let alone any sort of law enforcement action.

What's your response to that, that it's a distraction that the cops should focus on local crime?

Yeah, oh my God, Megan, I'm surprised that you even know what she said.

It's a a word salad. I mean, where do we even start? And then there's also the fact, I mean, she seems so tortured, tortured.
I was exhausted watching her. I mean, her whole body, it's very simple.

If you're a criminal and you're legally here, you got to go. Why do we want you? And we're talking about the worst kinds of criminals, pedophiles, murderers, rapists, Abigail Spanberger.

This isn't hard. You got to go.
Why do we want to keep criminals here? You said you came, well, for an opportunity, but you didn't. You're taking the opportunity to prey on us.

And ICE wants them gone. We want them gone.
We must live in peace. Our children must be able to walk the streets.
Our business inventory must be safe, etc.

We can't have her. Abigail doesn't know how any of this works.
As a matter of fact, she's going to need on-the-job training, but she's not going to get it because I've been doing the work.

Where has Abigail been? Oh, that's right. Hiding, one of 435 in Congress.
And now she has to stand on her own. She can't do it.
I'm ready to take command on day one. I'm a Marine.

I know how to do this. I love that that you served your country honorably for a few years in the United States Marine Corps.
Thank you for doing that.

I want to, unlike we did a segment before you came on, talking about a little bit about Corrine Jean-Pierre and Sonny Hostin, too, who always, always lead with race.

They're obsessed with their own race. Corrine Jean-Pierre has failed to not, she has made sure to mention the fact that she is black and quote, queer in every interview she's done to promote her book.

You're the opposite.

You happen to be black i never hear you make an issue out of this it seems like a totally different approach to race and the fact that you you know your your blackness is incidental to who you are can you just speak to that a bit because i'm overwhelmed with the obsession on this issue of on the left

let me tell you you know who always reminds me that i'm black the democrats and it's in some racist form or other and yet they're the ones who supposedly love black people than more than republicans and they're supposed to love women more than Republicans.

And apparently they're also supposed to love immigrants more than Republicans. Well, where is the love? Show me the love.
Don't tell me you love me. Show me.
But of course, we know it's not true.

You know, these Democrats,

thankfully it's not all of them, but some of them, they're fighting the Civil War all over again. They will never let the wounds heal.

They keep ripping the scab off, ripping the bandage off because it serves their own purpose. Meanwhile, the rest of us, we just want to get on with our lives.
I mean, here I am.

Here I am, Megan, in Virginia. I have to win my own race as lieutenant governor on my own.
The governor does not choose me. The people of Virginia choose me.
And so the Republican Party nominated me.

Think about that. The big bad Republicans nominated me, a female black immigrant.
And then the people of Virginia chose me.

I am second in command, Reagan, in the former capital of the Confederate States. My God, have we not changed? Have we not changed? Why do we keep doing this to each other?

Let's just get on with our lives. Let's live long and prosper.
You know, I'm a Star Trek fan. Let's allow people to be.

We care about the pocketbook issues again. Are my children being educated? Am I going to be safe? How are you going to help me? Are you going to make my life harder than it already is?

Are you going to break down the barriers?

What are you going to do? That's what the people want to know, not these constants, you know, race, race, race, race and more race and overcomer and and you know all this nonsense come on

biological overcomer our children are overcomers typical of the left however the people who have been hurling racist insults at you have been leftists we saw this sign at a rally uh held up by a leftist that reads hey winsome if trans can't share your bathroom then blacks can't share my water fountain not sure it gets more racist than that.

Then there was this leftist at a ball game the other day who offered the following. Forgive me for playing it.

This guy's name is Scott Pogerik and shouted that you should go back to Haiti, where, from which you do not hail, but let's just look at it. SOT 39.

Turns out this guy works for Lockheed Martin, which is now looking into these allegations. He's, I think, suspended for the time being.

Your thoughts on what you've been subjected to by the tolerant left.

It's not anything new to me, actually. When I first ran for office 20-some years ago, 2000 and when I ran for our house, and I was told the very same things back then.

And in fact, I was called everything but a child of God. And all I was doing was running for office.
And by the way, I had death threats back then.

And they were so credible that my house and my phones were wired by the state police. I had children.
And my mother called me from Jamaica and said, they're going to kill you.

And I said, no, mom, they don't do that in America. So, you know, I've had the brunt of this.
I even had to take a protective order out against my opponent's supporter.

And he violated it and was subsequently jailed. And guess who his attorney was? My opponent.
And so you see, this is nothing new. I'm used to this.

I'm back into politics after being gone for 20 years. And apparently, we still need a whole lot of prayer, Megan.

So, you're a woman running against a woman. Enter another woman, Mika Brzezinski, with this searing analysis.
Take a listen to this one. Shot 35.

It really is incredible when you have Abigail Spanberger, Mikey Sherrill, her background, all the different jobs that she has held

in the military. And also, like Alyssa Slotkin.
I mean, my God, these women are incredible. And to them, I would say fight, fight, fight,

because we need them. I mean, this is something that a lot of Democrats are grappling with right now is they've nominated women two of the last three elections for the presidency, lost both.

There are some who say, well, we can't do that again. The stakes are too high.
But of course, that does fall into the same misogynistic trap. Other countries have no problem electing women.

Your thoughts on how this applies to you, who she mentioned.

Apparently, I'm not a woman. Is that right? Misogynists, think that we're not elected.
I mean, Megan, I know I'm a woman. Nobody has to tell me that.
I know I'm a woman. I can spot a woman.

I mean, this is nonsense.

Do they think that Republican women don't count? And what about the credibility of

running for office? I mean, I led a men's prison ministry. I had a women's homeless shelter, mopped the floors at a food pantry, but had my own business.

I've been the CEO of businesses, a Marine Corps veteran. I mean, I have done it, you name it.
Chamber of Commerce, you know, led programs, et cetera, worked for the politicians. I mean, come on.

What else do I need to do to prove that I'm quite capable? And here I am also

lieutenant governor. Is that not enough? And then I was elected again 20 years ago to the House of Delegates and got

bills passed bipartisan. You know, these Democrats, I don't think they stand for anything.
Apparently, Republican women don't count.

How helpful would it be to get an explicit Trump endorsement? He said very nice things about you. He said the Republican candidate is very good.
She should win.

He definitely wants you to win, but he hasn't done the full Trump endorsement, like on True Social. And I mean, I don't even know.

Would it be helpful for Trump to do any campaigning for you, given how purple Virginia is and how he didn't ultimately win the state? This can cut both ways for a Republican.

Well, we welcome whatever strategy that the president has. You know, he's got a lot of people advising him, and that's good.
Trying to keep these microphones in. They don't want to see it.

But yes, whatever opportunities are available with the president, we welcome them. You know, look, people understand what the

the parameters of this campaign are all about.

It is not lost on them that I have supported President Trump. And so, and even if it were, my opponent has been telling everyone that anyway, so we all know what's happening.

We're going to win. We're going to win because we have the right ideas.
And again, the right ideas and the common sense ideas where they're trying to paint me, the Democrats, as

somebody who will not look out for the people. But of course, the people know better.
Again, I didn't run a men's prison ministry for two years if I didn't care.

I am not soft on crime, not by any stretch, but I don't believe in throwing people away either.

So we're going to hold you accountable, but then we're going to make sure that you leave incarceration better than you came in because we need you to be the moms and dads that your children need to be.

What most concerns you, before I let you go, about the possibility of a Spanberger victory?

I am not concerned because she's not going to win. We're making it, as I said, we're making the case.
The people are showing us that they're coming to the polls and they're thinking.

They know that we were the ones, the Yunkin Sears administration, that provided all the economic benefits that they're seeing. She, Abigail, was never a part of any of this.

She's going to drive businesses away. She's going to force everybody to join a union, whether they want to or not.
She's gotten over, what, $1.5 million now from unions.

Winsom has gotten zero, which means they know, the unions know, who will force people to join unions. My opponent, Abigail, has voted for that in Congress.

They know that they're not going to be safe with her because she's going to get rid of our police.

She's going to defund them and she's going to get rid of their qualified immunity, which is why I have 81 different sheriffs, a historic number,

supporting me. And they're Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
I mean,

all the signs are pointing to that we're going to win despite these polls. Well, we will continue watching it.
We wish you all the best of luck, Lieutenant Governor Winsom Earl Sears.

Thanks so much for being here.

Thank you.

Wow,

that's a big one, Virginia. Go out and vote.

How can you go from Glenn Young

to Abigail Spanberger? Truly, like, how could you do it? Talk about a downgrade.

And not for nothing. I think I told this story, but I'm just going to remind you, this is what a good man Glenn Young is.

When I went to the Charlie Kirk event at Virginia Tech, and by the way, Virginia Governor Glenn Young did not need to go to that. This was right after Charlie died.
It was two weeks after.

And tensions were still high, and he showed up anyway. And he did not have to do that.
You know, originally, it was just going to be your struggle and Charlie.

So he was a late hitter and he went willingly. And he shows up there.

I think I told you this. He led us in a prayer before we went out there, which really settled everybody's nerves.

And then on top of that, when he left, he came with a great security force because he's the sitting governor. When he left, he left the security force for me.
It was so sweet.

I mean, he's the governor, right? But he wanted me to feel safe and be safe.

Total classy, great guy. You're going to follow up that act with Abigail Spanberger? Why not go for the person who will carry on the Youngkin legacy? Winsom Earl Sears has shown courage.

She served our country honorably. She's standing up for girls and for women.

She will protect Virginians against the crime being committed by illegals and by others because she's in favor of a robust police force. There's no contest here.
Just,

I really hope the Republicans who are sitting on the couch and thinking it doesn't matter get off the couch and make sure they go and cast their vote for her. She needs the help.

You know, I know she says the internal polls, but let's be honest, those rarely come through in the end. The public polling has her behind in every poll, but she doesn't have to stay behind.

There are 12 days yet to go. You can get off your couch and go vote for her.
And I urge you to do it.

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