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Speaker 1 I am so excited for the conversation today. If you're new, my name is Mel Robbins.
I'm a New York Times best-selling author.

Speaker 1 I am also one of the world's leading experts on motivation, behavior change, habits.

Speaker 1 And I've been wanting to do this show for a while because I see in the news all these people getting laid off and the anxiety is starting to ramp up.

Speaker 1 And I also know that almost every single human being in the past three years has had some kind of reset button hit where you've gotten very clear that maybe the way that you've been doing life, it's not really what you want anymore.

Speaker 1 You have values that aren't aligned with the kind of work that you're doing or the way that you spend your time.

Speaker 1 And so, I am on a mission to open your eyes to a whole different reality because whatever move you're going to make next, when it comes to your career, your finances, and your life,

Speaker 1 I want it to be the greatest move of your life. And I believe that you have the ability to do that.
And so, we're going to focus today on your ability

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 truly

Speaker 1 be your own boss.

Speaker 1 And you might not have ever thought about that because of how old you are or how young you are or the fact that you have a really crappy mindset and you're constantly beating yourself down.

Speaker 1 And I wanted to give you a zero cost master class with a woman who has taught more than 50,000 people how to pivot from as young as 19 to as old as somebody in her late 60s, how to think totally differently about what's possible for you.

Speaker 1 And that's the invitation of this episode. That by the end of this episode, you're going to think very differently about what you're capable of.

Speaker 1 You're going to think very differently about what your next move might be in your career and the next right steps to take to start walking toward it. I want to wake you up today.

Speaker 1 and make you realize that you are one decision away from having that happen. So my guest today is a dear friend friend of mine.
Her name is Amy Porterfield.

Speaker 1 She is an entrepreneur who is one of the world's leading experts in launching an online business. She has taught millions of people, more than 50,000 paying students.

Speaker 1 Normally, to take one of her classes or to have one of her coaches coach you, we're talking more than $10,000.

Speaker 1 You're going to get this at zero cost, thanks to our sponsors and thanks to Amy's generosity today. She is here.

Speaker 1 She has a brand new book called Two Weeks Notice, but the book is really about the step-by-step blueprint for making a major pivot and creating freedom in your life.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited that you're here, Amy.

Speaker 2 I am so thrilled to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 You're welcome. And so here's where I want to start.
So Amy, you and I have reinvented ourselves. Yes.
We have both gone from working for somebody else to figuring out how to launch our own business.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to get to your story in a minute, but I want to put something into context for everybody.

Speaker 1 Guys,

Speaker 1 I first started making money online five years ago.

Speaker 2 Five years ago. That was like yesterday.

Speaker 1 And I was 49 years old, Amy.

Speaker 2 Okay, I love to hear this.

Speaker 1 If this old dog can figure out how this internet thing works and how to learn this stuff, you can do this. And Amy is living proof.

Speaker 1 She has taught 50,000 students, more than 50,000 students, how to take even like you even start with people who are like, I have no idea what I want to do.

Speaker 2 Absolutely no idea.

Speaker 1 Yes. And

Speaker 2 they figure it out and create incredible businesses. They blow their own minds.

Speaker 1 Without any business experience. Absolutely.
What do you want the person listening right now, as they're driving to a job that they hate or they've been laid off, they're beating themselves up?

Speaker 1 What do you want to tell them they are going to get out of this conversation today?

Speaker 2 I want them to know that there's an entirely new world waiting for them. They don't even know what's possible yet for their future.
And it's not inside a cubicle or commuting to a nine to five job.

Speaker 2 There's a whole other world out there that you can take as your own. And the reason I know that is because that is my own story 14 years ago.
It was a new world to me and I ran with it.

Speaker 2 Now I help other people do the same.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you've got a world-class expert here. She has made $85 million in the past 14 years teaching people how to do this.
And you want to know why I'm saying that number?

Speaker 1 Because I'm damn proud of her.

Speaker 1 And I also think if you put your head down and you listen to what Amy is about to tell you and you pick up her book and you read the blueprint, you can figure this out too.

Speaker 1 And these 50,000 plus students that she has taught, they are no more smarter than you. They are no more qualified than you.

Speaker 1 They simply were in the position that you're in right now where they bumped into this conversation and it had them experience a whole different possibility.

Speaker 2 for their life. Absolutely.
One of my students recently got laid off after 20 years of being in the job that she was in. So tell me the story.

Speaker 2 And so she was in her 50s and working at this job for 20 years, doing a great job, wakes up one morning and they lay her off. And she was totally surprised by it, never thought it would happen to her.

Speaker 2 And in that moment, she felt the shame and the embarrassment. And what did I do? But then the very next thought, and this is what's so powerful, she thought, I didn't even like this job anyway.

Speaker 2 I have been staying in a job that I don't even like because it pays the bills. It is secure.
And I always remind people, there's no growth in security.

Speaker 2 That is not where you're going to shine when you're just always safe and secure. You got to get out of that in order to shake things up.
And she realized, I need to shake things up.

Speaker 2 And her next thought wasn't, let me dust off my resume. And a lot of people that are going to get laid off this year or something's going to happen, they think, I got to go look for my next job.
No.

Speaker 2 But if they just took a beat, what do you really want?

Speaker 2 And that's the part, that's where I want to grab people right there and say, wait a second, what do you really want? Is it really to go back to a nine-to-five job?

Speaker 2 Or have you been dreaming about doing your own thing, but you're just too scared to take the leap?

Speaker 1 Wow. What do you really want?

Speaker 1 That's a huge question. And I want you to contemplate that.
What do you really want?

Speaker 2 And here's the secret. You start with the life you want.
So when I teach people how to go out and build their own business, I always say, first of all, let's talk about what lifestyle you want.

Speaker 1 I know that reinvention is a hot topic. Our project on Audible, Reinvent Your Life with Mel Robbins, is number one on Audible.
Everybody is feeling this need to change something about their lives.

Speaker 1 And when you take your career and your ability to make money into an entirely different level,

Speaker 1 It's extraordinary how that impacts your life.

Speaker 1 And Amy has been able to not only teach herself how to do that, but to teach so many other people how to do that, how to find financial freedom, get control of your time, how to create a life where you get to work when and where and with whomever you want to work.

Speaker 1 And do not tune this out. This is possible for you.
And that's why I wanted Amy to sit here and give you a zero cost masterclass in thinking bigger than perhaps you've ever thought before.

Speaker 1 And so let's listen to Amy. So Amy, what was your wake-up call?

Speaker 2 14 years ago, I was working for peak performance coach Tony Robbins. I was the director of content, traveling the world, working on the content that he did on stage.
And here's what happened.

Speaker 2 tony brought in a bunch of business owners to the san diego office they happened to be all men and they were making money online and so we brought them into this office it was this big oak table and i was called in to take notes so

Speaker 1 now okay so first of all

Speaker 1 Were you annoyed by that?

Speaker 2 Well, it was kind of common for the content department to take notes. But yeah, there's a little bit of me like, I want to be in the action.
I want to be doing the things.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I was on the side table.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you were not even at the big table with the boys. You were on the side

Speaker 1 taking the notes.

Speaker 2 Okay. So here I came in to this meeting, but thank God I did because here's what happened.

Speaker 2 I started to take notes and these guys started to talk about their businesses, what they do, what life looks like, what their lifestyle is, what their family life looks like.

Speaker 2 Like they were really talking about their whole experience as business owners. And all of a sudden I realized, wait a second, they're working when they want, where they want, how they want.

Speaker 2 They're creating these amazing products. They're being as creative as they want to be.
They're on their own time and on their own dime. And I realized I have never been my own boss.

Speaker 2 I will always hit a glass ceiling. I will always have to ask for a raise, always have to ask if I could take vacation.
I was not the boss of my own life or my business.

Speaker 2 And in that moment, a light bulb went off and I thought, I want it. I have no idea what they're doing.
I don't know how to do any of it, but I want it. And so that was the moment for me.

Speaker 1 I think this moment

Speaker 1 where you're sitting in a meeting and

Speaker 1 you experience something.

Speaker 1 This like wake-up call happens in your body. And I've had a moment like that.
I was sitting in an audience and I was at an Oprah Winfrey. like kind of one of these live your best life tours.

Speaker 1 This would have been two decades ago at this point. And I was there because I was networking to try to get clients for my life coaching business.
I had just started this on the side.

Speaker 1 I was working full-time doing business development for a advertising agency in the big tech kind of bubble that happened in the early 2000 timeframe. And

Speaker 1 on the side, I was trying to build a business as a life coach. So I go to this Oprah Winfrey concert.
Concert. It was actually a event that she held, a one-day summit to like live your best life.

Speaker 1 And so I'm sitting in the big audience and Oprah's on stage and then she introduces this woman that

Speaker 1 I'd never heard of. Her name is Martha Beck.
And Martha Beck walks out and I don't even remember what the hell she said. I had never heard of her.
I had no clue what she did.

Speaker 1 But she started talking and there was something inside of me that was like, I want that.

Speaker 1 And it was the same thing you're talking about, which is this taste of, I've never thought about the word free because there I was, I had lied to my employer.

Speaker 1 I had taken the day and I had told them I was somewhere else and I had gone to this for myself. Yeah.
And so here I am completely out of integrity, getting paid by somebody else.

Speaker 1 I'm prospecting for my side hustle that hasn't even launched yet. And I realize when she walks on the stage, holy holy shit, that's what I want.
And I didn't even know what that meant.

Speaker 1 I just knew that I wanted the freedom that she seemed to have. She had written her first book.
She was now talking about that first book on a stage. I didn't know what I would write about.

Speaker 1 I didn't know what I would speak about. I was scared to think about being on that stage.

Speaker 1 That is the moment. And so I want to hit pause and I want to talk to

Speaker 1 you right now listening to us. I want to talk to you because I

Speaker 1 need you to start to pay attention to those moments. You don't have to have the answers to change your life.
You have to have that moment where you go, I want something more for myself.

Speaker 1 And what I wanted is I wanted to be able to go to an event without lying to my boss. Well, I could have just not lied, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 I wanted to be able to go to an event because I was going to go to an event.

Speaker 1 I wanted to be able to work when I wanted to work, but I did not know how the hell do you go from from that moment to knowing what the hell the right next step is?

Speaker 1 Like, how did you go from, okay, there's all these dudes sitting around the table.

Speaker 1 I'm basically the secretary, no offense to secretaries, and I am sitting here being exposed to something that I'm not part of this club.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 So the first thing that happened was this flood of doubt. And I looked to my friend who was in the meeting with me and I said, I have no skill where I could be my own boss.

Speaker 2 I know nothing that I could be my own boss.

Speaker 2 And then I learned something a long time ago that if you're watching someone do something and you feel a little bit jealous, like look what they have or angst around it, which I had, like I wanted what they had, even though I didn't totally get it.

Speaker 2 Whenever you have a feeling of jealousy or angst or you want it, ask yourself, what do they have that you want? Like get really clear.

Speaker 2 What is it about their life that you think is so attractive or you'd like to go through it? Because I had to get clear about what I wanted.

Speaker 2 And in that moment, I thought, they get to be their own boss. Like, that's what they have that I have never had.

Speaker 2 When you are in a 9 to 5 job that you no longer want, everything else seems to fall by the wayside. Like you're not living the life that you want.
So that was just one moment.

Speaker 2 Like, I wanted to be home with my family. I wanted to actually make more money so I could invest in things that I wanted to invest in.
There was so much that I didn't have that I wanted that I.

Speaker 2 You got to just ask yourself what kind of lifestyle you want and then build your career around that.

Speaker 1 Well, I think a lot of people got a huge wake-up call these past three years. Yes.
If the pandemic did nothing else, it certainly made you reflect on your values.

Speaker 1 It made you reflect on where you wanted to live. It made you reflect on what was important to you.
And this mindless chasing of more, more, more, it became very clear for a lot of us that that is not

Speaker 1 the lifestyle that we want. You had a huge move.
I had a huge move, all beginning with the question, what do I actually want my life to look like? Yes.

Speaker 2 You talk about that a lot. What do you want? And so once I got clear on, I don't want a job anymore.
I want to call the shots. Then I had to start thinking, what would I do? Because I had no clue.

Speaker 2 So for the next few months, I kind of went through this process that now I teach called the sweet spot, which is figuring out what might you want to do.

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Speaker 1 Welcome back. It's your friend Mel Robbins.
I am here with Amy Porterfield and we're asking the big questions today of you. What do you want your life to look like?

Speaker 1 How nice would it be if you were free to work when you wanted, where you wanted, that you took the time to design your life to work for you. Amy, I am so excited to go through this with you.

Speaker 1 I want to give the audience a real range.

Speaker 1 of scenarios where you could have this wake-up call, because I feel like for those of you that are in your 20s and 30s that listen to this podcast, you're probably part of the demographic that looks at everybody that is an influencer or a YouTuber, or they are travel bloggers or starting their line of supplements, or they are doing exercise videos and you're now streaming exercise videos from somebody who's largely your age.

Speaker 1 And you're like, wow, I'd really like to do that. What Amy and I are here to tell you is that is the power moment.
That is the eye-opening moment. That's it.

Speaker 1 I still have these wake-up calls all the time.

Speaker 1 We just had one yesterday where we were talking about wouldn't it be nice to be able to support other female entrepreneurs with investment money? Maybe we should step into starting an investment fund.

Speaker 1 And we both looked at each other and we're like, well, I don't know how to do that. I don't either.
But we kind of feel interested. So that's sort of the moment we're talking about.
That

Speaker 1 awakening is the only thing you need

Speaker 1 in order to pivot your life in a new direction.

Speaker 1 Because we are lucky enough, and Amy's going to talk about this, to live in a world where if you want to create an online exercise studio, if you want to take your catering business or your grandmother's tomato sauce that everybody compliments and start selling it, you can figure out how to do it, but you have to honor the wake up call.

Speaker 1 That's takeaway number one.

Speaker 1 That wake up call is going to change your life.

Speaker 1 if you're willing to look for it and if you're willing to hit the pause button when it happens i want to back up a minute though can you tell the story of how you went from taking notes in the corner

Speaker 1 to figuring out what to do?

Speaker 2 Yes. How did you do that? So for me, what it looked like was I started to think, okay, what am I doing right now in my business that could maybe translate?

Speaker 2 And I was doing marketing and some social media and a little bit of like online education kind of stuff. So I started to look at that and I liked what I did.

Speaker 2 I didn't like the fact that I wasn't free, but I I liked the work that I did. So I started to think maybe I could teach social media online.
It wasn't my end-all-be-all. You just need a starter idea.

Speaker 2 I just needed something to get me going.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's stop there. You just need a starter idea, everybody.
And for somebody who's unemployed right now listening or they're a student about to graduate. Like, what are you suggesting?

Speaker 1 Do you suggest they do this process while they're unemployed or while they're looking for a different job? Absolutely.

Speaker 3 This is something that no matter where you are in your journey, if you have that desire, that calling that there's got to be something better for me, something different, this is what you do.

Speaker 3 You start to think about what am I good at? What could be a starter idea?

Speaker 1 Like there are things that you do naturally. Maybe your house is super insanely clean.
And everybody constantly remarks about how clean it is and how good it smells.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's what you just do naturally.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's something you used to do a long time ago, but starting with, well, what are you good at? And so that was your process. So here you are.
You're still at your job.

Speaker 2 Still at my job.

Speaker 2 And then what I did is I started to look online on social media and started to go for like total immersion around what kind of business I'd want to create.

Speaker 2 So I wanted to teach social media or do social media. That's how I wanted to start.
So I started to follow all these accounts on social media that were doing what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 These other women and men that had the businesses I wanted.

Speaker 2 So the first step I did, I call it this process of unbossing, which is learning or believing that you could lead yourself and you don't need someone else to lead you.

Speaker 2 So I thought, I've got to unboss myself, which is I have to think like a boss.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Unbossing yourself is a tool

Speaker 1 that you can use to change the way that you think.

Speaker 1 Because most of us grow up in households where we see our caregivers going to work for somebody else. So you already have a mindset where you think safety comes from being somebody's employee.

Speaker 1 You already have a mindset where you believe that, oh, those benefits, oh, that salary, oh, that, you know, kind of savings account, all that stuff that I saw my parents chip away and try to do, you think that that is the way to financial freedom.

Speaker 1 What if you had a different mindset? What if you started to think like somebody

Speaker 1 who has their own business? Because a boss means you take responsibility for what you're doing.

Speaker 1 A boss means you figure shit out instead of sitting around and licking your wounds and feeling sorry for yourself. This unbossing is a process that you have to go through.

Speaker 1 in order to get yourself to think differently about how you're showing up. And so what are the components of unbossing your mindset and your actions?

Speaker 3 I love what you said about no matter if you plan on staying for your, in your nine to five job or looking for another job if you get laid off or starting your own business.

Speaker 3 If you adopt the mentality of unbossing yourself and you actually start thinking like a business owner, you're going to show up so much better in every area of your life.

Speaker 3 Because someone who is unbossed, they're not looking for everyone's approval. They're not asking everyone how to make a decision.
They're not coming to the table and saying, I'm stuck.

Speaker 2 What do I do?

Speaker 3 So it's changing your mindset and really stepping into more confidence that I've got this. I'll figure this out.
Watch me kind of mentality.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I want to take a question real quick from one of our listeners.
Okay. Carrie in Scotland.

Speaker 4 Hi, Mel. My name's Carrie and I'm from Edinburgh, Scotland.

Speaker 4 I recently got laid off from a job that I hated and I took it as a sign from the universe that I needed to find something else to do, a new career.

Speaker 4 It was a great idea at first, but now I have absolutely no idea how to go about finding the career that I love or finding my passion. Any tips on where to start?

Speaker 1 Oh, I love this question. Congratulations, Carrie.
I know it's scary, but you're going to be just fine. Can you walk Carrie and everyone listening through your sweet spot exercise? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 She's just been laid off. No idea where to start.

Speaker 2 So this is exactly what I did when I decided what I was going to do when I left my job. And so I built it into a formula.
So there's four quadrants. Here's how you look at it.

Speaker 2 The first quadrant is, what are you good at? So what do people always ask you about? Where have you gotten results in your personal life, in your business life?

Speaker 2 You might want to take what you know in your business life and bring it into your own business, or you might look at your personal life and think, you know what?

Speaker 2 One year ago, I was lazy on the couch watching Netflix, eating all my snacks, and I realized I want to run a marathon.

Speaker 2 And so what you did is for three months, you put together a plan to figure out how am I going to run an entire marathon from couch to marathon in three months.

Speaker 2 You put together a plan and you freaking did it. That's what you can sell.
Other people want to know how you did it. And they don't want to know from the leading experts in the marathon industry.

Speaker 2 They want to learn from a girl that literally three months ago was sitting on the couch eating snacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because that looks like me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. So where have you gotten results in your personal life, in your business life? How can that translate into a business?

Speaker 1 That's number one. Yes.

Speaker 2 Number two is think about who you might want want as a customer. And the reason why this is important is you want to start thinking about maybe some things you're struggling with.
Mel said it earlier.

Speaker 2 The easiest way to find who your customer might be is who were you five years ago? And how can you help them get to wherever they want to get?

Speaker 2 That's one of the easiest ways to look at who might my customer be. Maybe it was you just a few years ago.
Remember, you just need a 10% edge, 10% ahead of those you serve. Okay.

Speaker 2 The third thing is where are people spending money? What books are being sold on the topic you want? Are there courses being sold? One-on-one coaching?

Speaker 2 Meaning, will people spend money to get what you're going to teach them or what you're going to sell? So it's important to do a little market research.

Speaker 1 So you want to look for people who are doing something similar. Exactly.

Speaker 2 Got it. So I want people to already be doing what you want to do.
It's a plus.

Speaker 1 Okay, great.

Speaker 2 Fourth quadrant, and it's the most important. What lights you up? Not what's your passion.
You're going to go down a rabbit hole and never come back up. We don't need to find your passion right now.

Speaker 2 But what do you enjoy? What will make you excited to get out of bed in the morning?

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Speaker 1 Welcome back. It's Mel.

Speaker 1 Today we're talking big themes, how to take control of your future.

Speaker 1 And I am here with none other than Amy Porterfield, who is one of the world's leading experts in how you make a pivot by taking any business idea or side hustle online.

Speaker 1 And for those of you that have never thought about this before, you always thought, okay, I just got to get a job. I got to get a job.
We're unpacking a concept called embossing.

Speaker 1 yourself because I personally believe this is all mindset. It's all mindset.
And you've got two strategies to emboss yourself.

Speaker 1 But before we get to those, I want to go back to the story because you had this wake up call. You're like, whatever these dudes are doing to make money online, I'm figuring this out.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you do next?

Speaker 2 So that's when I started to think, what could I possibly do? How do I need to emboss myself? How do I need to think in order to step into what I want? Got it. So I really did start with my mindset.

Speaker 2 So this concept of unbossing, really understanding that you could lead yourself and you do not need anybody else to tell you what to do, make the decisions for you or lead you.

Speaker 2 So once you start to think, okay, how can I lead myself? I had to take some steps to get me there. The first thing was, again, I talked about what do I want?

Speaker 2 And I went on social media and started following a bunch of people that had the kind of businesses that I wanted. Total immersion.

Speaker 2 I wanted, you know, and you did an episode a while ago that you talked about when you, let's say, got a new car and you started to see that car everywhere. Yes.
It's the same concept.

Speaker 2 When I decided I want to start my own business, I started to see bosses everywhere doing what I wanted, but I was intentional about it and I cleaned up my social media.

Speaker 1 Okay, so get serious about curating your social media right now. So that you are immersed in the world that you want to step into.
That is what a leader does. That's what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 We all have boards of advisors. We all call experts.
I call Amy on speed dial when I need help with marketing.

Speaker 1 You're going to use social media in a a very intentional way to start to create that community and that mindset around you.

Speaker 1 What's the second thing you can do to change your mindset and unboss yourself?

Speaker 2 Start asking for advice.

Speaker 2 Find the people who are doing what you want and find out how they did it. And I actually have a great story about this.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 So when I was still at Tony Robbins, I knew I wanted to create courses and help people do their marketing and build businesses.

Speaker 2 Down the road, I wasn't ready for it yet, but I knew I wanted that kind of business. So I went online and I found a bunch of people people doing what I wanted.

Speaker 2 And there was this one woman who absolutely had the kind of business I wanted. I did not know her at all, but I watched her online and I thought, that's the kind of business I want.

Speaker 2 So I went to her contact page on her website, wrote her a little email and said, listen, I know you don't offer this, but can I pay you for an hour of your time?

Speaker 2 I just want to ask you all about how you built your business. I'm new to all of this.
I don't even know where to start. Will you share some insight with me if I pay you? And she said, yes.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yep.

Speaker 2 You got to ask.

Speaker 1 You got to ask. And here's another way you can do it because you're probably sitting there.
Notice you have a employee mindset. Yes.
We're like, but I don't have any money to pay.

Speaker 1 Amy's got money because she works at Tiny Rapids. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 That is not the mindset. You are not a loser.
You're a winner.

Speaker 1 All of these people that you follow have likely done a podcast interview or a YouTube video. or they've written a blog post and all the advice is in there.

Speaker 1 And another way that you can get people to respond to you is you can present them with some challenge that you're facing and say, Could you, could you give me, like, I need some help making a decision.

Speaker 1 I'm facing this challenge. Here are two or three things that I'm thinking about doing.
Which would you advise? Because then you've done the work. You've thought like a boss.

Speaker 1 You haven't come to somebody to solve your problems. So that's another way that even if you're working for somebody else, unbossing yourself is a mentality.

Speaker 1 Don't expect your boss to solve your problems. problems.
Yes. So you stuck with this job and you started chipping away at learning things.

Speaker 1 What else did you do in order to kind of step by step march toward building something you had no freaking skill or experience to do?

Speaker 2 Yes. I had to get unreasonable.
And by the word unreasonable, I mean I had to start thinking in ways that I had never done before.

Speaker 2 And so like with the call with that woman that said yes, like I was still at my office. I had to crawl under my desk because the walls were thin.
I didn't want anyone to hear me.

Speaker 2 At my lunch hour, I'm whispering to her on the phone, like, how did you build your business? What did you do? And she's whispering back to me.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure she thinks that's weird that we're whispering, but I needed to make it happen.

Speaker 2 So I had to start putting myself in places that I was way out of my element because I wanted something bigger than my life at the moment.

Speaker 1 Now, how do you keep that present?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 We all want it. Who doesn't want to make a million dollars? Who doesn't want, you know, to figure out how to make money online? Who doesn't want to make money while they're sleeping?

Speaker 1 But what separates those of us who do and anybody who doesn't is literally the action. That's exactly that is it.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're willing to go one step further than the person that just quit, there is no fucking secret formula. Yes.

Speaker 1 You have to stop listening to the bullshit that is stopping you from taking action. I mean, this woman is sitting under her desk.

Speaker 1 I'm at an event I'm not supposed to be at because we wanted something more for ourselves.

Speaker 1 What did you do to keep that front and center other than having your social media feeds reminding you that this is the world you wanted to step into?

Speaker 1 How the hell do you do this for yourself when it's about a side hustle or who you want to become? Because you're talking like recreate your whole damn life.

Speaker 1 Like, stop getting a job and get serious about what you want your life to look like.

Speaker 2 So, I started to change my identity. I'm going to be a business owner.
I'm going to be a a boss. What do bosses do? They listen to podcasts about building businesses.

Speaker 2 They buy the books about how to change your mindset, how to start a business, how to get things going. They buy the digital courses.
I never bought a digital course in my life.

Speaker 2 I bought my first digital course while I was still at my nine-to-five job. It was all about how to do video marketing.
I had no idea how to make a video.

Speaker 1 Can I give everybody a pro tip? Yes. A lot of companies as a perk give a login to Masterclass and some of these other places.

Speaker 2 And so you can be use it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There is so much free education. Khan Academy, YouTube, all this stuff is free, everybody.

Speaker 1 So you got to be willing to look for it. If you've gotten laid off, the Harvard Extension School has free resume templates if you're willing to freaking Google it.

Speaker 1 So, you know, we have to get out of this mode of, you know, damn that job and I'm embarrassed. Bullshit.
That job was not a fit. You want to know why it wasn't a fit?

Speaker 1 Because you got fired, because you got laid off. And yes, it sucks, but you get to decide now what it means.
Are you going to pivot? And are you going to take this as a wake-up call?

Speaker 1 Or are you going to sit there and feel sorry for yourself?

Speaker 2 It's so true. So yes, get resourceful.
You don't have to pay for any of this. There's tons of free resources out there, even more so now than there were when I even left.

Speaker 2 But I started to, again, total immersion, fuel my mind with the right things. But here's another thing I did.
I started to side hustle.

Speaker 2 And I think this is an important conversation for people right now.

Speaker 2 If you're afraid of getting fired, laid off, or you're just not making enough money, a lot of people listening, they think they're staying in their nine-to-five job, but they know they're not getting paid enough.

Speaker 2 They know they're undervalued. So the best next thing you can do is start your own thing in the mornings, nights, weekends to bring in a little extra money.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you about a student of mine who did this.

Speaker 2 So this one is from my student, Tara, and she

Speaker 2 was an accountant for 15 years in a very small town. And she's a single mom.
And she said, I need a raise. I'm not making enough money.
She went to the company and said, I'd like a raise.

Speaker 2 And they looked at her with blank stares, like, that's not even in your future at all. And she realized, I've got to do something.
So she was really good at making wreaths.

Speaker 2 She made these beautiful wreaths.

Speaker 1 Wreaths? Yeah. Like, you mean those round things that we hang on our doors? Yes.
Okay, so she's really good at wreaths. So I want to go back to something.

Speaker 1 Remember how Amy said, you got to go through the sweet spot exercise. By the way, tons of resources linked all in the show notes on every single platform.
Yes. But I want you to hear this.

Speaker 1 This is a person who has been told by people forever that she does a good job making wreaths. Yes.
I know what you're thinking, everybody. You're thinking, Mel, I have a mortgage to pay.

Speaker 1 Mel, I have student debt. Mel,

Speaker 1 I am not starting a fucking business making wreaths because I will not be able to pay my bills doing this. Here's what I want to tell you.

Speaker 1 You have no clue what you're capable of, but what you're capable of right now is shooting down every single idea.

Speaker 1 You're putting all your energy into coming up with reasons for why not, why it's stupid, why you can't. What if you put half the amount of energy into why the fuck not? Yeah.
Why not make Wreaths?

Speaker 1 Why not see where this goes?

Speaker 1 Instead of flopping down in front of Netflix tonight, why not invest that same time into creating a little bit of a side hustle, tasting a little bit of freedom, saying yes in a little way? Why not?

Speaker 2 Just a starter idea.

Speaker 1 Just a starter idea. That's all she started.
That's all she had.

Speaker 2 Yes. So she wasn't saying, I'm going to quit my job tomorrow because I'm making wreaths.
She just thought, I got to bring in some extra money. I better get scrappy.

Speaker 2 So she started making these wreaths, selling them on Etsy, and she was doing really well, bringing in like $1,000 a month extra.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Right.
That's like take the kids to Disney money. Exactly.
Let's pay the bills money.

Speaker 2 She's like feeling a little bit, that's another thing. You start to feel a little confident when you start to take some action and get some clarity.
Like this is actually working.

Speaker 2 So what happened was her friends started seeing her make money on Etsy and they were making crafts and they weren't making any money on Etsy. And they said, teach us how you're doing that.

Speaker 2 That's what I want to know. And that's where it started to click for her.
Her starter idea was not going to pay the bills.

Speaker 2 However, she took action, got some clarity, started to listen to what people were saying. and they said, teach us how you're doing that.

Speaker 2 So she created a little mini course teaching other people how to put their crafts online and make money with Etsy.

Speaker 2 $100,000 later, this woman never in a million years thought she'd make $100,000 teaching other women how to put their crafts on Etsy.

Speaker 1 So I want everybody to pay attention because I'm trying to open your eyes.

Speaker 1 to the fact that your whole life can change because of one wake-up moment and the willingness to lean into something that you naturally do well or you're naturally interested in.

Speaker 1 This willingness to lean into what you're naturally good at and other people compliment you on. I've never thought about it this way.

Speaker 1 So that it gives you a taste of freedom and it taps into this power and resourcefulness and moxie that is inside you. Yes.
Because when you start feeling that, you'll start thinking even bigger.

Speaker 1 I'm going to offer up an example. I think about my daughter Sawyer, who constantly is complimented for her interior decorating style and skills, no training.

Speaker 1 And I keep thinking to myself, boy, she could do a whole Instagram strategy of designing on a budget.

Speaker 1 She could do a whole thing about how you design a killer dorm room for X number of dollars or how you design your first apartment. I'm thinking about another kid.

Speaker 1 I have a neighbor whose son, senior year of high school, no joke, made almost $30,000. You want to know how? How? I'll tell you how.

Speaker 1 He saw one video, one video of this business where you advertise a service of picking up people's stuff, like couches they don't want, and then you list it for sale on Facebook Marketplace and you deliver it to somebody else.

Speaker 1 Brilliant. Brilliant.

Speaker 2 And scrappy. I like scrappy ideas.

Speaker 1 And so I'm not suggesting you'll make millions. Maybe you will, because maybe you'll turn it into a junk removal business.
Maybe you'll turn it into something else.

Speaker 1 But you are limiting what's possible because you won't even lean into something like the wreath idea or the idea of starting an Instagram account that is about decorating on a budget because you tell yourself, it's not possible.

Speaker 1 I can't do it. Somebody else has already done it.
Do you have another example of somebody who just like was either really old or really young that did this?

Speaker 2 Yes, I have a great story. One of my favorite students, her name is Anne.
Anne worked in corporate at Gap and Old Navy.

Speaker 2 She was in her 50s at the time and she got laid off, which is tends to be a theme we're hearing a lot. So she's laid off and she thinks, okay, well, I've been in this business for a while.

Speaker 2 I'm going to dust off my resume, get it back out there. So she did.
Months and months and months couldn't even get an interview. And I hate to say this, but I think it was her age.
Probably. Right.

Speaker 2 People are hiring younger. So they're just looking over her and all of her experience that she had.
And so one day her husband said, you've got all of these different crafts up in our attic.

Speaker 2 You love to do these. Why don't you just play around there for a while, see if it sparks anything? She didn't have any other option at the time.
So she started to kind of get in there.

Speaker 2 And she does this one thing really well, surface pattern design. What the hell is that?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 I'm not crafty at all. So I really had to kind of dig in to understand it.

Speaker 2 Basically, it's this idea of drawing your own doodles and different graphics through a software and turning those drawings of yours into wallpaper, into wrapping paper, into mugs, into journals. Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 And so she did this really well. And yet again, people started to say, how are you doing that?

Speaker 2 That's why when you think of the sweet spot formula, the first thing you do is pay attention to what people think you're good at because it's just a natural thing. They're interested.

Speaker 2 And so she did it well. Other people wanted to know how she did it.
So she started to teach them how she did it.

Speaker 2 Now, this woman went from literally not getting anyone that wanted to hire her, not even getting interviews.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 To doing launches of this, this new program she created, $100,000 launches over and over again. But I want to point out she's in her 60s.

Speaker 1 Wait, okay. Yeah.
You buried the lead, Amy.

Speaker 2 She's in her 60s. Didn't know how to run a business.
Didn't know how to do technology. Didn't know how to put up a website.
Didn't know how to do a webinar. She knew none of it.

Speaker 2 But what she did know is she wanted a different kind of life and she got honest with herself. I don't want to be begging for a job.
They think I'm too old. Watch me.

Speaker 1 And that's what I want.

Speaker 1 Watch me. Watch me do this damn thing.

Speaker 1 I cannot wait to send this episode to my kids. Can you tell me about someone on the younger side that went from nothing? telling theirself, no skills, too young.
I can't do this. Miss the boat.

Speaker 1 There's already too many interior designers, no room for me. Tell me about somebody on the, on the younger end of the scale.

Speaker 2 I will. And I want to say, if you're looking around and you think, I want to do this, and you see so many other people doing it and they're doing it well.

Speaker 1 Like podcasts with me.

Speaker 2 Yes. The first thought is there's no room for me.
Yes. I can't do that.
It's already being done. First of all, there's over 8 billion people in this world.

Speaker 2 There's definitely an audience you can reach. But the second thing is if it's being done and it's being done well, that means there's money to be made there.

Speaker 2 Right. It's a validation.
Look at it and think, oh, great. Mel's a great example that I can make money doing this.
Let me try it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Did you hear that, everybody?

Speaker 2 It's important.

Speaker 1 It's really important

Speaker 1 because somebody else doing this is a validation that there is a business and money. And more importantly, people want this.
Yes. They want this in their lives.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I know that's what everybody's thinking right now. It's already been done.
Bullshit. You want to know why? It hasn't been done by you.

Speaker 2 Amen.

Speaker 1 You have a unique take on things.

Speaker 1 The 60-year-old woman that you talked about that launched her first online course, you know how empowering it is to see somebody teach you when you're in your 40s or 50s and they're older than you?

Speaker 1 Do you know how empowering it is when you see somebody that has your background, your religion, your skin color, your body type, your experience?

Speaker 1 You are most qualified to help the person you used to be. Yes.
And you will most inspire the person who sees themselves in you and your story.

Speaker 2 You have lived experiences that nobody else has. And you have stories and insights that you share that nobody else will.
And you only need a sliver of the internet to pay attention.

Speaker 2 That's the wild thing here. You don't need a hundred thousand customers to make money.
A sliver of the internet. You get 10 customers.
Let's say this, Mel.

Speaker 2 When I teach people how to create side hustles, let's say you have a $100 program and just 10 people buy that. You've just made a thousand dollars that you did not have.

Speaker 2 10 people, that's all you need. So when you start to think this is too big, I'm too overwhelmed.
I don't know where to start. You start with your starter idea and you just get into action.

Speaker 1 You know, I want to give a huge shout out to my kid's guitar instructor, Dave Wade. So Dave Wade, he has made a huge difference in our life.

Speaker 1 You know, I was always barking about how he should do something more. He's a session musician, classical guitarist,

Speaker 1 plays on all these major stages. And he started a music school in Boston in the basement of a church.
And it's slowly grown.

Speaker 1 And you know, by just paying attention to that wake-up call inside him, there's something more I could be doing. I could be reaching more kids.
He figured out how to create an online course.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 And he's done this thing simply as a side hustle to an existing business. And now he does nothing but virtual lessons with students all over the world and in person in Boston.

Speaker 1 But I mean, it just changed his life. Why? It's not because he's smarter than you.
It's not because he has more skills than you. It's because he did one thing you're not doing.

Speaker 1 He's saying, what if it works out? Yes. What if I just take this kernel of an idea and I lean into it? And I don't do it overnight, but I start chipping away at it.

Speaker 1 I want to take another question from Louise in the UK.

Speaker 5 Hey, Mel, it's Lou from the UK. I have a question for you.
I

Speaker 5 am no longer in my corporate career and after 25 years and I really want to use this time to do something that I'm really passionate about, coaching other people. I've got the qualifications.

Speaker 5 It's just the confidence that's stopping me.

Speaker 5 How can I get past the fear of judgment of others to really put myself out there and follow my passion rather than making myself go back to a corporate career that doesn't light me up? Thanks.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, it's your lucky day, man, because you got Amy Porterfield in the hose.

Speaker 1 So how do you deal with the fear of rejection?

Speaker 2 Okay, so first of all, notice in that question, she said, I'm qualified. And then she just brushed right over it.
That's the thing. And then she said, how do I find the confidence? You don't.

Speaker 2 It does not start with confidence. You have to tap into courage first.
And this is a mindset shift right here. Okay.

Speaker 1 You don't.

Speaker 1 Tap into confidence, everybody. No.
You're not going to feel confident is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 It's never going to show up in the beginning.

Speaker 1 Okay. So you got to tap into courage.
So please explain what that means to Lou or anybody listening who's like, okay, I got my idea. I got the wreaths.
I got the streaming online.

Speaker 1 I got the coaching business. Now I'm doubting myself.

Speaker 2 Yes. Confidence comes from a proven track record of something you want to do.
You've never done this. She doesn't want to do what she did in her nine-to-five job.
She wants to start something new.

Speaker 2 That's uncharted territory. Yes.
There's no confidence in that. So what she needs to do is first say, I'm going to find the courage to do this.

Speaker 2 Courage is taking the leap of faith, knowing I've overcome all of my obstacles. I'm alive.
I'm here. She has a proven track record of being resilient, of showing up, doing the work.

Speaker 2 She said, I have the experience. I'm qualified.

Speaker 2 So we're going to tap into courage, saying, well, then I'm going to create something new based on the fact that my track record is I can figure this out.

Speaker 1 You know what I love about this?

Speaker 1 It's a way

Speaker 1 to basically

Speaker 1 just whack self-doubt away. Because what you're saying is,

Speaker 1 all right, I don't know how to do this. I've never done this before.
I'm not feeling that confident. Imposter syndrome is kind of coming up.
I have the courage to try. Yes.

Speaker 1 I have the courage to keep going. I can tap into this thing inside me to say, I know I'm nervous.
I know I'm this, but I'm going to fucking do it. I'm going to do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm going to do it.
Exactly. And so that part is so important.
We're not going to chase confidence anymore. The other thing is when I left my nine-to-five job, I got home.

Speaker 2 I'm in my kitchen at my kitchen table kind of typing away and freaked out thinking, what did I do?

Speaker 2 And I started to make videos and I would make these videos about marketing and funnels and all this stuff and publish them nowhere.

Speaker 2 And my husband would say, I see you making these videos, but you're doing nothing with them. Why not? And I said, I'm so afraid what my old coworkers are going to think about me doing this.

Speaker 2 They're going to see these videos where I'm not good on video. yet so I look like a mess and they're going to think who is she she looks like a fool

Speaker 2 Who does she think she is? She doesn't know what she's doing. So I didn't move forward in this dream I had because I was afraid of what they were thinking.
And here's the truth.

Speaker 2 They're not going after it. So they're going to tell me all the reasons why I shouldn't or I am not going to make this work.

Speaker 1 Here's two pieces that I would add to that. Okay.

Speaker 1 Lou,

Speaker 1 if you wouldn't trade your life with them, why the fuck would you listen to their advice? That's number one.

Speaker 1 Because people who have not done what you want to do have no clue

Speaker 1 what it takes to get there. So stop looking in the rearview mirror.
You're not heading in that direction. Second thing I want to say, the second that you decide

Speaker 1 that you're going to pivot your life,

Speaker 1 your social media is not for your friends.

Speaker 1 Yes. If you could get this concept into your head, your social media is not for your friends.
Your social media is for you and your dreams and your self-expression. And it's meant to

Speaker 1 put something out in the world intentionally so that people who are looking for you and who need you can find you. That is what social media is for.

Speaker 1 The inbound of social media is your board of directors. It's your board of advisors.
It's the way that you do total immersion, as Amy just said, into who you're becoming.

Speaker 1 Your outbound, what you post, post is meant to be something like a beacon that draws in the kind of people that are interested in this.

Speaker 1 And when you can get clear, it's not for your fucking ex-co-workers. It's not for your relatives.
It's not for your family. It is not for your friends.

Speaker 1 I think most of my long-term friends do not follow me because I post three times a day and it would choke their feed. And, you know, if they want to catch up with me, they'll text me.

Speaker 1 And by the way, They're not into what I do. Yes.
They're not into personal development. And so why would they follow me?

Speaker 1 I'm not putting it out there for anybody else, but the people who find value in it. And when you can wrap that around your brain, it'll change your freaking life.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's a great example of unbossing.

Speaker 2 You have the courage to put out content that you know is no longer for your friends to see your kids or whatever, but I'm going to put stuff out there that's going to attract people that I can serve.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You think the CEO? of Coca-Cola worries about what their ex-colleagues think about their new marketing campaign. Amen.
No.

Speaker 2 Do you think Beyonce or Oprah are sitting there thinking, I don't know if I could do this. What are people going to think about me if I put it out there? They're not thinking that way.

Speaker 1 And now she has the world's

Speaker 1 most Grammys of any recording artist ever to fucking prove that if you just find the courage, forget about confidence. It'll come later.
Find the courage to try. Yes.

Speaker 1 Do it because you will not regret it. Tell me the story about you had a 19-year-old.

Speaker 2 Yes. So one of my favorite students, 19, his name's Aiden, and he dropped out of college.
You know, it just wasn't for him. And I can totally relate, college isn't for everyone.

Speaker 2 So he thought, what am I going to do? But he needed to make money really quickly. And one thing he was really good at, because everyone said, how do you do that, is training his dogs.

Speaker 2 He's not a professional dog trainer, but talk about those dogs not jumping on the couch, not jumping on people when they walk through the door, not barking like crazy. He just had it down.

Speaker 2 He had two dogs and trained them well. So he thought, well, I'm going to start making some videos.
I'm going to start posting on social. I'm going to show people what I can do with these dogs.

Speaker 2 And what happened was, this is the scrappy part. In his local neighborhood, people started to hire him one-on-one, teach my dogs, come get my dogs, teach them what you know.
Okay.

Speaker 2 So that was the first action, the starter idea. Now it's bloomed into creating courses and memberships and teaching people all about dog training.
But it started in his local community.

Speaker 3 You can't say, I want to make a million dollars tomorrow. Let's focus on the thousand dollars that you can make right away.

Speaker 1 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Speaker 1 Did you guys just hear that see this is a practical application of making it smaller yes how can you make a thousand dollars now doing something that you love because when you find the courage to do that and then post the photos of your wreaths or put up the little video of you teaching the neighbor's annoying yappy dog how to sit when you say soot You're not, it doesn't matter what your friends think.

Speaker 1 You're starting to see yourself doing something instead of thinking about it. And that's going to create confidence in you to do more and more and more.
We are inviting you step by step by step.

Speaker 1 And Amy walks you through this in her book, Two Weeks Notice.

Speaker 2 Think differently.

Speaker 1 Open your eyes up to a totally different possibility. Freedom.
Financial freedom, freedom with your time, the freedom and the power to create a life that really works for you.

Speaker 1 This is not just for some people. It's for everybody.
It's for people that are willing to say, you know what?

Speaker 1 I do want more for my life and I do want to feel in control and I can make money and I can learn how to pay for my benefits and my health care and I could take the power back if I'm willing to think differently.

Speaker 1 Amy, what are some final thoughts for people? Because I know what happens in an episode like this. Everyone's like, holy shit.
Okay. First of all, don't quit your job just yet.

Speaker 1 What is the next right step for somebody to take? Is it to do the sweet spot exercise?

Speaker 2 Absolutely. I think doing the sweet spot exercise could be really helpful.
And if you get stuck on what am I good at, ask your friends and family.

Speaker 2 I want you to send a text out to 10 people today and say, if I were ever going to go out on my own and do my own thing, what am I good at? What do you think I should start?

Speaker 2 Because your family and friends will have lots of ideas for you. So that's one thing you could do.
A lot of people will say, I don't know where to start. We just heard that one.

Speaker 2 Like, I want to do my own thing, but I have no idea where to start. I wrote the step-by-step guidebook to give you everything you need to know to start your own side hustle or start your own business.

Speaker 2 But here's what I want to say. You have, you've been out there on TikTok saying, no one's coming to save you.
It's actually a really

Speaker 2 popular TikTok that everyone is using. Like no one's coming to save you.
You're a TikTok sensation for the record. And that is very true right now as well.
Meaning, you don't need anybody to save you.

Speaker 2 You do not need anybody to tell you how worthy you are. You do not need someone to approve how much money you can make or how you can spend your time.

Speaker 2 There's a world out there that you literally are designing your own life by calling the shots. Everybody is welcome to explore that.

Speaker 2 And the only people who will take us up on this today are those that will say, all right, I'll give it a shot. I don't know how this would work out.
I don't know what this would look like.

Speaker 2 I'm at least going to explore the possibility that I could have a different life. That's all we're asking for people to do right now.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You got to follow Amy Porterfield.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Make sure you're subscribed to both of our YouTube channels. And I want to congratulate you listening on one thing.
You took the time to listen to this. You took the time to entertain it.

Speaker 1 And if you feel something fluttering inside you, take the next step. Pick up Amy's book.
It's two weeks' notice. We've linked to it in the contents.
And also check out some of the free resources.

Speaker 1 We have linked to some of the videos that she has that are free that you can watch that are going to walk you through some of the next right steps. And, you know, we're here to support you.

Speaker 1 But the main thing that I wanted to do today, this was my mission, mission, was to give you a wake-up call and to make you go, I don't have to do what I've always done because if I continue to do what I've always done, I'm going to have what I've always had.

Speaker 1 And I deserve to be happier and I deserve to feel like I'm in control. And I deserve to be doing something that makes me feel empowered.
And we are two living examples.

Speaker 1 We are examples that you can change your life. Any moment you decide to.
It's never too late. You're never too early for those of you who are just graduating.

Speaker 1 Never too early to take control and to pivot and to do something entirely different just because you want to. Amy Porterfield.

Speaker 2 Thank you, my friend. So happy to be here.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And I just want to say that in case nobody else tells you, I love you.
I know Amy does too.

Speaker 2 I love you.

Speaker 1 I believe in you and I believe in your ability to do this. Go create a side hustle.
I want that for you and I know you want that for you too. All right.
I'll talk to you in a few days.

Speaker 1 Oh, one more thing.

Speaker 2 It's the legal language.

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Speaker 1 It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional.

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