The “Bronze Medal Mindset” (and 4 More Surprising Habits From Olympians)

Speaker 1 Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited to talk to you today about one of my favorite topics ever. Can you guess what it is? The Olympics.
Of course, I love the Olympics.

Speaker 1 I remember the first time I watched the Olympics in 1976. I was in Cape Cod in a rental with my parents with a TV that barely worked.
Not this year. The Robbins household glued to the Olympics.

Speaker 1 I love seeing the athletes come together from around the world. I love performance, competition.
Of course, I love to win. And that's why I'm so excited to share the bronze medal mindset with you.

Speaker 1 What is that? You're going to find out. And you're also going to learn about four other surprising habits of Olympians.
These are not things you realize that they do.

Speaker 1 These are habits that you can put into your life. And today, that's what you and I are digging into.
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Speaker 1 Hey, it's your friend Mel Robbins. I am so glad you're here.
Welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. If you're brand new, welcome to the family.
I am so glad you decided to tune in.

Speaker 1 If you've been here for a while, thank you, thank you, thank you for being here with me today. I am so excited about the episode today, not only because of the fact that I just love the Olympics.

Speaker 1 I mean, don't you love the Olympics? I want to dive into five things that I've noticed and learned from the Olympics this year. These are habits, habits of Olympians and Paralympians.

Speaker 1 And one of them is the bronze medal mindset. I'm going to tell you what that is in just a little bit.
So we're going to get to that.

Speaker 1 But first up is a huge, huge habit around something called visualization. Visualization is real.
It is scientifically proven.

Speaker 1 And the first habit is not only that you have to do it, but here's the main habit that I have learned from the Olympics this year.

Speaker 1 You don't see it when you visualize, you feel it.

Speaker 1 You have probably seen Olympic athletes performing visualization and mental rehearsing, and you might not have even realized that's what they have been doing as they're waiting to compete.

Speaker 1 And the thing about visualization that everybody gets wrong is you do not need to see it in order to do visualization correctly.

Speaker 1 Done correctly, visualizing, manifesting, mentally rehearsing, you feel it.

Speaker 1 And I got this takeaway: that visualization isn't about seeing, it's about feeling yourself do it from none other than the pommel horse guy. Can you guess who I'm talking about? Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 USA's Steve Nedarosik.

Speaker 1 Everybody loves this guy.

Speaker 1 He's the guy with the brown hair and the glasses, and he's blown up on social media because on the side, as he's working off his nerves, he's solving the Rubik's Cube as a way to kind of keep himself calm.

Speaker 1 This This guy's story has so much I want to unpack. There is so much you can learn from Steve, the pommel horse guy.
So Steve grew up in western Massachusetts. Worcester is the name of the town.

Speaker 1 It's probably about a 40-minute drive from our studios in downtown Boston. And he was a gymnast as a kid.
But here's the thing. He had all of these issues with his eyes.

Speaker 1 He does not have depth perception. He is super sensitive to light.
He has to wear glasses all the time.

Speaker 1 His eye issues are so profound, it's almost like his pupils are permanently dilated and he's not able to get a driver's license.

Speaker 1 Like this is how much his vision is impacting kind of his day-to-day life. But that did not stop him.
Okay. That did not stop Steve, the poma horse guy.
And what happened is he pursued gymnastics.

Speaker 1 through like middle school or you know elementary school middle school oakley was a gymnast but i've spent many a weekend sitting in the tiny little spaces that parents sit in while they watch their kids do gymnastics.

Speaker 1 So Steve, our pommel horse guy, he gets to high school and realizes I'm not going to make it as an all-around gymnast.

Speaker 1 And if you're going to make it as a gymnast, almost all the gymnasts are all-around athletes. He realized he wasn't going to get recruited to college because he wasn't good enough in the all-arounds.

Speaker 1 And so he made this critical decision. And this is a really important takeaway from Steve.
He doubled down on the thing he was amazing at, and that was the pommel horse. He made it his thing.

Speaker 1 And he made that decision in high school, which led him to go to Penn State. He competed.
He ends up focusing so much on the pommel horse that in 2021, he becomes the world.

Speaker 1 champion in the pommel horse. And I want to pause right here because I don't think anybody wakes up and they go, you know, I'm three.
I think I want to be the world champion at the pommel horse.

Speaker 1 And what I love about Steve and the fact that he doubled down on the pommel horse is that it just goes to show you, there's a bazillion things you could do with your life.

Speaker 1 You know, everybody runs towards being a doctor or being in finance or doing a startup or becoming an influencer these days.

Speaker 1 You could do the pommel horse. You could build a life where your passions are about flowers.
Like there is so much more to life than the same five lanes that most people pursue.

Speaker 1 And so I love this reminder too, that if you enjoy it, if you're good at it, double down on it. Like you don't need to be a generalist.

Speaker 1 Sometimes in life, being a specialist and something that you love, something that you're good at, that is the ticket. So focus, focus, focus.
So I love this. And I love what he's teaching us.

Speaker 1 And I also love the fact that he seems to have a lot of fun as he's doing it. Like at one point, as he was competing, he was wearing goggles, not glasses.
He has a great sense of humor.

Speaker 1 But let me get to the point about visualization and the fact that you don't have to see yourself doing it.

Speaker 1 You have to feel yourself doing it. That is the science of visualization.
It's also called mental rehearsing.

Speaker 1 We're going to get into how you can do it, but I want to set the scene for this moment that happened at the Olympics with Steve. So you may have seen this.
It was the men's gymnastics team final.

Speaker 1 Okay. So the whole team is there.
Everybody is competing in all of the different events. You get down to the final event for the men's gymnastics team final.

Speaker 1 What event is it? It's the pommel horse. So naturally, who do you bring in? You bring in your ringer.
You call Steve over. You tell him, put the Rubik's Cube down, buddy.

Speaker 1 It is time for you to hop on that pommel horse and do your thing. And his

Speaker 1 performance is going to determine whether or not the U.S. men's gymnastics team is going to earn a medal for the first time in 16 years.

Speaker 1 So stakes super high.

Speaker 1 And here's what I love. So as we are progressing toward the pommel horse event, All of a sudden there's all these photos of Steve going viral.

Speaker 1 And it's of him with his head tipped back. And you can see me on YouTube kind of, and he's just literally got his eyes closed.
And people started to joke, like, the dude's napping.

Speaker 1 Steve is now napping. That's not what he was doing.
He was visualizing. He was running himself through his routine in his mind.
In fact, he said he did it about a hundred times.

Speaker 1 And it's really

Speaker 1 important to understand the true science of visualization because then after he opened up his eyes and he got out of his chair and he stood up and he was kind of in that holding area getting ready to go, there's another video that went viral where you can see him standing there and he's moving his hands and his shoulders.

Speaker 1 And what you realize is, oh my gosh, he is feeling his way through the entire routine.

Speaker 1 He's not just imagining himself doing it, he is feeling himself doing it

Speaker 1 before he actually does it.

Speaker 1 And I want to explain from a neurological standpoint what is actually happening. And this comes from research at UCLA.

Speaker 1 We have covered the science of manifestation on the Mel Robbins podcast, but you don't need to have heard that episode because I'm going to put my arm around you and explain this.

Speaker 1 Here's what's super cool. When you

Speaker 1 imagine and feel in your body doing the step by step by step by step. And in the case of Steve, our Pommelhurst guy, it's like one hand, other hand, this bar, that bar, leg swing, this thing.

Speaker 1 As he is feeling this in his body and moving his hands, brain scans have shown that it stimulates the same brain region as when you're actually performing the action.

Speaker 1 Closing your eyes, imagining it in your mind, and allowing you to feel the sensation in your body

Speaker 1 is you socializing your mind to take that action.

Speaker 1 And this taps into what scientists call procedural memory. Now, procedural memory is a term that describes what's happening.

Speaker 1 when you take something that you're learning and then you repeat it so often that you lock it in as a habit and it becomes part of your long-term memory.

Speaker 1 I can give you some examples of things that you use procedural memory for. So if you ever pick up a pen and write something, you're using your procedural memory.

Speaker 1 You're not really thinking about writing, are you?

Speaker 1 Just like Steve does not think about being on the pommel horse because he has rehearsed this so many times, it is now stored in his procedural memory.

Speaker 1 Another thing that you do, if you ever poured a glass of water or opened up a door,

Speaker 1 That's all actions in your procedural memory.

Speaker 1 And the reason why procedural memory is so important is because these moves become patterns, whether it's brushing your teeth. Another thing that you do, procedural memory, walking.

Speaker 1 If you are in a wheelchair, rolling and moving in your wheelchair. That's all done through procedural memory.
The connections get made between these gaps in your neurons that pass signals.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you think that, okay, I'm just visualizing. No, no, no, no, no, no.
You're actually encoding a pattern in your brain.

Speaker 1 And the more that you feel it in your body, the stronger the connection becomes. Why?

Speaker 1 Well, because the research from UCLA shows that the brain region that's being stimulated by this is the same one as the region that actually governs the actions that you take.

Speaker 1 Your brain doesn't know the difference. This is so cool.
You can use it to your advantage. I'm going to give you two examples and then we're going to go back to Steve.

Speaker 1 But first, I want to teach you how you can use this in your own life. You can use the example of Steve.
You can use visualization. You can take this research from UCLA.

Speaker 1 So let's just say it's always been on your bucket list to run a marathon.

Speaker 1 The way that you use manifestation, visualization, this mental rehearsing, is not visualizing yourself crossing the finish line.

Speaker 1 Like if Steve, if all Steve did when he was on the sidelines at the Olympic was close his eyes and think about standing on the podium, he would have completely blown the actual event.

Speaker 1 That's not what visualization is. Visualization isn't about visualizing winning.
It's about visualizing doing it.

Speaker 1 The small moves that lead you to the podium.

Speaker 1 So for example, if you were wanting to train for a marathon, you would visualize and feel in your body how awful it's going to feel to get up at five o'clock in the morning to go on a training run.

Speaker 1 How, ooh, that's not even the awfulest part. Imagine opening the door and it's like freaking sleeting outside.

Speaker 1 Who wants to run then? Not me, but you do. So you're going to visualize yourself pushing yourself out the door.
You're going to visualize yourself. It's a long training run.

Speaker 1 You've just hit mile eight. And guess what just happened?

Speaker 1 The battery in your earbuds just died. You don't have any music.

Speaker 1 Visualize that moment. Feel it in your body.
And then feel yourself as you continue to run.

Speaker 1 That's how you can train yourself to do what you need to do. I can give you another example.
I'm working on my next book. I'm so excited for you to read it.
It's called The Let Them Theory.

Speaker 1 It's coming out in January. And it was a beast to write.
And there were so many weekends that I was up here in my office in the summer while my kids were home, hanging out with all their friends.

Speaker 1 And as I would have a weekend coming up where I knew I had a huge deadline, you know what I would visualize?

Speaker 1 I would visualize what it felt like to be up here above the garage alone on yet another Saturday. And I would visualize how it would feel

Speaker 1 to sit there for two hours and then go downstairs to the kitchen where everybody's in bathing suits and having fun. And then I would visualize myself kind of smiling and laughing.

Speaker 1 And then I'd walk back up the stairs and get back to my chair and sit back down and keep writing. Why would I do that to myself? I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 Because I am socializing my brain to the pattern of doing the work, even when I don't feel like it.

Speaker 1 This is so powerful. And I want you to steal it from Steve.
And the fact that he has vision problems, in my opinion, makes him the perfect spokesperson for visualization.

Speaker 1 Because again, it's not about seeing yourself. It's about feeling yourself doing it.
God, I love that. God, I love that.

Speaker 1 I guess one more thing that he teaches us, which is really cool, is that what you perceive to be a weakness could become your greatest strength.

Speaker 1 Like in an alternate universe, if you've got those kind of issues with your eyes and you got to be wearing glasses and goggles and, you know, kids are looking at you funny or teasing, like you might give up.

Speaker 1 The fact that he can

Speaker 1 whip off his glasses and he doesn't even need. to be able to see clearly to get up on that pommel horse and be the world freaking champion.
He just does his thing.

Speaker 1 And if you really stop and think about it, maybe not being able to focus on all the external stuff isn't a weakness.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's a strength because it allows him to drive the focus inward.

Speaker 1 And there's some area of your life where you think you have a weakness.

Speaker 1 What if you were able? to find the strength in that thing the way that Steve, the pommel horse guy, has?

Speaker 1 Because what ended up happening after he had his eyes closed and he was mentally rehearsing 100 times and then he stood up and he was feeling and gripping and moving through the routine.

Speaker 1 There's such a cool video of him side by side standing and doing all that with the actual routine. And it is hand by hand, like syncs up.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 I will link to it in the show notes so that you can see it. It's crazy cool.

Speaker 1 What was he doing? He was

Speaker 1 preparing to freaking dominate because that's what he did. He got on that pummel horse and he pummeled that thing.
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 And the second that he like moved down and moved up and lifted his legs and then like, woo, he dismounts and sticks the landing.

Speaker 1 You can tell when his feet hit that ground, he doesn't need to see anything. He knows he destroyed it because he felt the fact that he was destroying it.
And the U.S.

Speaker 1 men's team went on to cinch the bronze medal, first medal in 16 years. The ringer rang the bell, man.
It was so cool. It was such a great moment.
And I want to thank Steve.

Speaker 1 Hopefully we'll get him to the studios. I would love to talk to this guy because he seems really awesome.
He taught you that not every weakness is a weakness, that they can all be a strength.

Speaker 1 He taught you that doubling down. on something instead of trying to be a generalist and do everything well just follow your strengths follow the things that you love be a specialist.

Speaker 1 He also made it cool to be a pommel horse guy. And you can make it cool to be whatever kind of person you want to be and whatever you're interested in.
And finally, he taught you that

Speaker 1 visualization isn't about seeing it. And it's definitely not about seeing the finish line or the podium or the book being done.

Speaker 1 It's about feeling yourself doing the very difficult, step-by-step, hard stuff that no one wants to do. And when you do that, trust me, you'll shock yourself by what you're capable of achieving.

Speaker 1 And that brings me to the second big takeaway from the Olympics, which is I think we all need to strive to have a bronze medal mindset. Not a gold medal mindset, but a bronze medal mindset.

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Speaker 1 Welcome back. It's your buddy Mel Robbins.
You and I are unpacking the Olympics. There are five major takeaways that I have had in watching the Olympics so far.

Speaker 1 We've already talked about Steve, the amazing pommel horse guy, and the power of visualization and feeling yourself doing the work.

Speaker 1 Now I want to unpack something called the bronze mindset, the bronze metal mindset. That's what we're going to call it.
Bronze Metal Mindset. And here it is.

Speaker 1 Have you ever noticed that if you look at the kind of ceremony when they give the medals, yes, the person who wins gold is ecstatic and they reach up and they bite the metal and, you know,

Speaker 1 but number two always has kind of this forced smile.

Speaker 1 You know, they look happy, but do they really look happy? But have you ever noticed the person who wins the bronze, they are flipping ecstatic. I mean, they're literally up there like, look at me,

Speaker 1 holy cow, what the, what just happened? Oh, man. They're thinking about all their homies back home, like cheering in the local tavern for you.
Like,

Speaker 1 it's noticeable. In fact, it's so noticeable that there have been studies done about the fact that people that win the bronze are happier than people who win silver.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think we all know, yeah, gold, you're going to be ecstatic.

Speaker 1 I mean, a little footnote on the gold medal is that they also show that when you win a medal, you're really ecstatic in the moment if you've won gold, bronze, whatever.

Speaker 1 But after the Olympics are over, it's really common for people to hit a really low period. Why? Well, because you're not really pursuing something important.

Speaker 1 We've talked about this so much on the Mel Robbins podcast, that having something that's important and meaningful to you to pursue, and it could be something small, could be just creating a cutting garden.

Speaker 1 It could be going back to school. It could be just working on being a nicer person.

Speaker 1 Having something to pursue creates meaning in your life. It is the source of happiness personally in terms of the kind of happiness you can create for yourself.

Speaker 1 But let's get back to why are bronze medalists, based on just watching television and also based on research, happier than silver medalists? Well, there's a very specific reason why.

Speaker 1 And the reason is because silver medalists stand on the podium and you know what they think about? They think about the fact that they could have been first.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I guess there's that saying that

Speaker 1 coming in second is the first place for the loser. I don't like that.
But a lot of people, when you come in second, you don't think, oh, I won second place or I won the silver. You think I lost gold.

Speaker 1 I didn't make number one. They did this huge research study that was published in the American Psychological Association.
I'm having trouble speaking today. American Psychological Association.

Speaker 1 Thank God I'm only talking and I'm not on a pommel horse right now. That the reason why

Speaker 1 silver medalists are not as happy as people who win bronze is because they are comparing up.

Speaker 1 They're looking at the gold medalist and they're thinking to themselves, maybe if I had just done this, if only I had been a second faster, if I had only tried this, if I had trained a little harder, if I would have.

Speaker 1 So they're no longer happy with where they are. And it's this thing that you and I can do too, where you compare up.

Speaker 1 Maybe you're starting your singing career and you're comparing yourself to Taylor Swift. That's going to make you miserable.
What you want to do is you want to have a bronze medal mindset. Why?

Speaker 1 Because a bronze medalist is so damn happy that they're on the podium at all, that they're even in the game, that they're in the arena, and they're doing what psychologists call comparing down.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh my God, at least I'm up here. You know, at least I'm up here.
I'm doing a lot better than a lot of people right now. And I'm very happy.

Speaker 1 I'm doing a lot better than my old self because I am actually standing up. This is pretty amazing.
So their ability.

Speaker 1 to put where they are in perspective, not compared to people who are better than, not compared to people who are more than, not compared to people that are ranked higher than, but their ability to compare

Speaker 1 themselves downward creates this level of gratitude and humility for what you just accomplished. And this has now been shown in research.
And the truth is, how does this work for you and me?

Speaker 1 Because this is a phenomenon in life. We are all struggling with comparison.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful what you're looking for because if you're looking for evidence that other people are better than you, you're going to find it.

Speaker 1 This is why I want you to have a bronze metal mindset. We're not going to be looking up and looking around and looking for people who have more or better.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you why, because on a planet with 8 billion people, there will always be someone who is smarter, richer, taller, shorter, skinnier, fatter, like you name it, there is somebody who has done it.

Speaker 1 And if you allow yourself to get a silver metal mindset where you're constantly scanning the world looking for people that oh i could have been that i could have been this if only i'd done that and and you and you start to then just glaze your whole life with this sort of silvery gray

Speaker 1 where you are constantly seeing what you're not

Speaker 1 which means you don't appreciate what you have. Like you can't be grateful and beat yourself up at the same time.

Speaker 1 You can't appreciate what you have and at the same time, be just pounding yourself with all the things you wish you would have done.

Speaker 1 And that's why silver medalists, based on research and based on experience, are not as happy as bronze medalists. And it kind of shows you that life is really about your perspective.

Speaker 1 You got to be very careful in life because whatever it is that you're looking for, you're going to find it.

Speaker 1 If you're going to spend your time searching for all the things you should have done or for people that have done a better job than you, you will find them.

Speaker 1 I experienced this when I published my book, The High Five Habit.

Speaker 1 One of my goals had always been to be a New York Times bestselling author. And of course, I dreamt in my wildest dreams that I would be number one New York Times best-selling author.

Speaker 1 But for years and years and years, I was just dying to get that recognition. And one of the reasons why is when I published the five-second rule, it was a self-published book.

Speaker 1 And I I didn't know they don't recognize those on the New York Times list. So I've never made the New York Times list.
So the high-five habit comes out and I debut as number two.

Speaker 1 Do you want to know what my reaction was?

Speaker 1 I'm sort of embarrassed to tell you this.

Speaker 1 I was pissed. I wasn't happy at all.
I actually burst into tears. That was partially because I was so exhausted, but I was not happy.

Speaker 1 And I was not happy precisely because of this research

Speaker 1 that I was comparing myself to the person that got number one.

Speaker 1 And I immediately went from this moment that should have been like, I just achieved something I've been dreaming about for five years. Well done, Mel.
Congratulations, Mel. Like, let's go have a beer.

Speaker 1 That's fantastic. Let's go to Disney World.
Let's celebrate. You did it, girl.
Go. No, I was like, damn it.

Speaker 1 And that's exactly what people do and feel when they compare up.

Speaker 1 You renovate your kitchen, then you go to a friend's house. Oh, theirs is nicer.
I don't like mine anymore. You know, I was reading this article in Inc.

Speaker 1 magazine by one of their editors, Jeff Hayden, and he tells this incredible story that you may be able to relate to that is an example of the silver medalist comparing up versus the bronze metal mindset, which is being where you are and comparing down.

Speaker 1 And that makes you grateful. He said that he had started this entry-level shop floor position and he worked his tail off and climbed the ladder and became a supervisor.

Speaker 1 He was super happy with the increase in pay. And that only made him want to work harder, right?

Speaker 1 Get in early, stay late, volunteer for projects, like be more collaborative, take on more responsibilities. He was so happy, happy to work hard.
And then he found out

Speaker 1 that another supervisor was a little lazy, a little difficult, you know, kind of uncooperative,

Speaker 1 made half again

Speaker 1 the salary that he made, meaning made more money.

Speaker 1 And nothing had changed in his life except for the upward comparison that he applied.

Speaker 1 And he said he could not get past it, that he still worked hard, but he didn't work that hard, right?

Speaker 1 And that's what can happen

Speaker 1 when you fall prey to this upward comparison, like he was perfectly happy with what he earned until he learned what someone else made, and then he became profoundly unhappy, even though his pay hadn't changed, his duties hadn't changed, his future opportunities hadn't changed.

Speaker 1 The only thing that had changed in that situation was his perspective.

Speaker 1 Now, what's interesting is that, of course, there's things he can do. Is it fair? I don't think it's fair, but you know, he can go do something about it while still maintaining a different attitude.

Speaker 1 Because if you get yourself all worked up and pissed off like I did when I was number two and silver medalists do or you've done in your life, it's not going to help you walk into your supervisor's office and actually advocate for what you want.

Speaker 1 It's not going to help you stay in a place where you are grateful for what you have.

Speaker 1 And it's also not going to help you feel motivated to continue to do the work that will help you earn that raise that you deserve.

Speaker 1 So there's a a bazillion reasons why you need a bronze medal mindset. Number one, because you deserve to be happy.
Number two, because it is going to help you stay motivated to being in the game.

Speaker 1 Somebody asked me the other day, God, I really hope I make it. I said, stop focusing on making it and focus on doing it.

Speaker 1 Because when you focus on doing it and visualizing, like our palma horse friend, doing the work, eventually all that work pays off and you find out, holy cow, I made it.

Speaker 1 and I'm standing here on bronze. This is pretty freaking spectacular.

Speaker 1 And that's what's going to keep you happy and that's what's going to keep you in the game and that's what's going to keep you going. So the third takeaway is enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 Enthusiasm will always make you a winner. And this

Speaker 1 life lesson comes from Henrik Christensen. who is a Norwegian swimmer who has gone bananas viral.
He is an obsession obsession with everybody online. I have no idea how he's doing in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 I'm just following him on social media because he is adorable and I love his enthusiasm. And his enthusiasm, what do you think it's about? Swimming?

Speaker 1 You're wrong. Being an Olympian?

Speaker 1 Nope, not so much.

Speaker 1 He has gone crazy viral.

Speaker 1 Because he has been making these little videos about how obsessed he is over these chocolate muffins that they are serving to athletes in the Olympic village.

Speaker 1 A little bit of background. He's 27.
He's from Norway. He's just posted like nine little videos about this and they're like six to nine seconds long.

Speaker 1 And what's so cool is it's these chocolate muffins. So imagine a brownie that is baked in a muffin shape with a little muffin paper thing and it's got chunks of chocolate on it.

Speaker 1 They honestly look kind of dry dry and disgusting.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the thing is, and he's making these videos where he's like biting into it and he's like making these faces and his face is covered in chocolate.

Speaker 1 And he's so enthusiastic about it that it makes you want a muffin.

Speaker 1 It makes you want to get on a plane and spend a month's salary to get yourself to Paris so that you can get your hands on one of these Olympic village muffins.

Speaker 1 That's how influential his enthusiasm is. And here's the thing.
These muffins, this is not like a muffin that you would see in a beautiful cafe in Paris.

Speaker 1 Like imagine you walk into a beautiful cafe in Paris.

Speaker 1 I can't even talk, but whatever. And behind the glass, on these beautiful kind of display wooden things, you've got beautiful muffins and you're like, oh, that looks so fancy and so beautiful.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, I'm going to spend $8 on that muffin. And that's going to be like a molten chocolate lava explosion.
I just know it. This is going to be, that's not what these muffins are, you guys.

Speaker 1 These muffins are in

Speaker 1 a,

Speaker 1 what do you call it? They're in like a cafeteria

Speaker 1 on a buffet.

Speaker 1 So if you've ever gone to a buffet at a grocery store, and there's the metal trays, and you've got like a bunch of food in a tray and it's half picked over.

Speaker 1 These muffins are sitting in a tray on a buffet for thousands of athletes to eat. This is not like a special muffin, but here's the point for why enthusiasm makes you a winner.

Speaker 1 Henrik and his enthusiasm has made the Olympic chocolate muffin the most sought-after piece of food in Paris right now.

Speaker 1 And why am I telling you this?

Speaker 1 Because enthusiasm is a lot lot like a brian's metal mindset.

Speaker 1 Enthusiasm is a way to go through life.

Speaker 1 Enthusiasm, I was researching this. It's when you expect the best.
So you see some like dry looking muffin and you reach for it and you kind of peel back the paper and you bite in.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And enthusiasm is also working to make good things happen.

Speaker 1 And when you're somebody that brings enthusiasm to your life and you bring enthusiasm to the meals you cook and enthusiasm to your friendships, it's infectious.

Speaker 1 And I personally believe that enthusiasm raises your IQ and it definitely increases your luck. Because if you're enthusiastic, you're present, you're in the flow, your energy is vibing.

Speaker 1 And that, of course, makes you luckier. And so, whatever it is that you are excited about, bring the emotion of joy to it.

Speaker 1 Bring silliness to it. Be enthusiastic.
We're all so worried about looking good and people thinking certain things about us that oftentimes enthusiasm can make you feel, am I being silly?

Speaker 1 Am I being over? No, be enthusiastic. People need it.
They love it.

Speaker 1 You know, when I watched Henrik grab one of those chocolate muffins and lip lock the thing, it's like watching a two-year-old eat their birthday cake.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen that where they like drop their face into it? And it just reminds you that life is there for you to enjoy it.

Speaker 1 And even a stale, mass-manufactured chocolate muffin is there for you to enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Whether or not you do is up to you. And that brings me to the next thing we're going to talk about, which is winners always quit.

Speaker 1 This is a huge thing in life. Knowing when to quit.
It takes courage to quit.

Speaker 1 And we're going to unpack that and the person that inspired this. And you're going to love this story.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure you've been thinking about lots of friends and family who are watching the Olympics. Make sure you share this episode with them.

Speaker 1 If you've got people in mind that have taught you something while you've been watching the Olympics or stories, I'd love to hear it in the comments or the reviews.

Speaker 1 And let's take a listen to our sponsors and stay with me. I'll be back after a very short break to explain why winners always quit.

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Speaker 1 Welcome back. It's your buddy Mel Robbins.
You and I are unpacking some major lessons from the Olympics. And we've covered a bunch so far, but this one I think is my favorite.
Winners always quit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it again. Winners always quit.

Speaker 1 And in order to teach you why winners always quit, I am going to tap none other than Simone Biles, one of the greatest athletes of all time, correct? If not the greatest, and the most decorated U.S.

Speaker 1 gymnast in history. I mean, I could read you the number of medals and world championships and all this stuff that she's won, but I think it's really important to just focus

Speaker 1 on what happened in the last Olympics.

Speaker 1 So let's go back in time. in order to learn this lesson that winners always quit.
In 2016, Simone wins gold medal all around. She is a force.

Speaker 1 And holy cow, the Olympics, when it came to gymnastics, Simone, Simone, Simone, Simone.

Speaker 1 Now let's roll the clock to the Olympics in 2020, 21, right, in Tokyo.

Speaker 1 And there's all this pressure. I mean, when you are the top dog and you're coming back into the game, like all eyes are on you.
And so there's this intense pressure for her to win again.

Speaker 1 And you'll probably recall

Speaker 1 that she started having all kinds of problems during the warm-ups. And she was warming up, for example, back in 2021.

Speaker 1 And when it was during the big team competition, and during the warm-ups, she tried to do some of these moves that she could normally just boom, stick the landing. Because why?

Speaker 1 She's done it so many times. It's recorded in her procedural memory.
And so she's trying to do this like two and a half rotation flip move thing, and she can only do it 1.5 times.

Speaker 1 She tries again.

Speaker 1 She can't do it 2.5. She can only do it 1.5 and almost falls out of the sky because she can't find the floor.

Speaker 1 This is, I guess, a condition. I had never heard of it until this happened.
It's a condition that gymnasts call the twisties.

Speaker 1 And it means that your body and your mind become disconnected as you're trying to execute on skills. And what gymnasts say is that you feel lost in the air.

Speaker 1 You feel completely disconnected from your body.

Speaker 1 And the only thing that's ever happened to me in my life where I felt like that is I had really awful postpartum depression when our daughter, who's now 25 Sawyer, was born.

Speaker 1 So it was a long time ago, but I didn't have the twisties, but I did feel completely disconnected from my body. I felt like I was up above my body watching myself.

Speaker 1 And I had no ability with my thoughts to make my body move. It was terrifying.
And so here she is, the like

Speaker 1 returning gold medalist. She is warming up for the team competition.
She is experiencing this disconnect between her brain and her body. She nearly falls out of the air and injures herself.

Speaker 1 And what does she do?

Speaker 1 She withdrew,

Speaker 1 citing mental health concerns due to the twisties.

Speaker 1 And then she went on to withdraw from every single event at the 2021 Olympics,

Speaker 1 except for the balance beam.

Speaker 1 She competed in the balance beam, Interestingly,

Speaker 1 she won a medal. Can you guess which one?

Speaker 1 The bronze. And she says to this day, it is the best medal she's ever won because it symbolized her putting herself and her safety and her health first.

Speaker 1 It's the only event she competed in.

Speaker 1 Now, this became huge news. And by the way, I didn't even stop to pause on the fact that when she first withdrew, this is in the middle of the team competition.

Speaker 1 So imagine the pressure.

Speaker 1 It's not just you quitting. It's you quitting on the team.
But this is what winners do.

Speaker 1 This is so hard to do in life.

Speaker 1 If you've ever broken up with somebody that you love and you have to quit the relationship because you you know in your heart it's not the right one for you right now,

Speaker 1 that is hard. But winners always quit when they have to.
If you've dropped out of school, if you've quit a job, if you've even told your boss who's super demanding, I can't work this weekend,

Speaker 1 and they've threatened to fire you, if you've called off an engagement,

Speaker 1 if you've dropped out of school. These are all decisions that winners make.

Speaker 1 When when you make the decision knowing this is the best decision for you.

Speaker 1 There's a very big difference between running away from your problems and running away because you're afraid and choosing to quit something.

Speaker 1 One takes courage. That's why winners always quit.
They make a decision that requires courage, and that's how you know it's the right decision.

Speaker 1 Losers run when they're they're afraid. That's a very different dynamic.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the courage it takes to make the right call.

Speaker 1 And of course, when the news broke, oh my God, the world exploded. She's a quitter.
She quit too early. They were racist.
They were sexist.

Speaker 1 They then started saying that she was a drug cheat because she had an exemption for ADHD medication. Like the whole thing blew up.
And what did Simone do? She focused on herself.

Speaker 1 And that's what you have to do too, when you find and tap into that bravery and that courage to make the right call.

Speaker 1 Now, here's something else that's really interesting. Because she came back.
She came back this year, man. And talk about the pressure.

Speaker 1 She's that, that, that diamond that gets created under pressure because she is just unbelievable at the Olympics right now. I don't even know how many gold medals she's won.

Speaker 1 In fact, we were just about to start taping and somebody's like, oh, she just won a silver. Like, she's just boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 And there's another takeaway here. Do you know what she did the morning that she won gold at the Olympics this year? At 7 a.m., the morning of that massive all-around team competition.

Speaker 1 You know what Simone was doing? She was not eating a chocolate muffin, that's for sure. She was talking to her therapist.
Why? And this is another takeaway:

Speaker 1 your mindset is a muscle.

Speaker 1 Strength isn't just physical strength. Mental strength is

Speaker 1 the part of every game you play. You could be the most gifted athlete on the planet.
If you are not there mentally, you're not doing anything.

Speaker 1 Life is a mental game.

Speaker 1 And knowing that she started the day at 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 getting her head in the game, making sure she was mentally well, just like you would warm up your muscles. She's warming up her mind.
She's getting herself focused.

Speaker 1 That is available to you to train your mind. How cool is that? And I want to also give a little bit of a backdrop here because

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've seen it, but it's really fantastic. There's this documentary special called Simone Biles Rising.
They're following her at the Olympics.

Speaker 1 And here's the other thing that most people don't realize. So let me give you the timeline.
2016, she destroys the Olympics. Holy cow, gold medal.
Simone, Simone, Simone, Simone.

Speaker 1 What happened two years later?

Speaker 1 In 2018, Larry Nesser, who was the former team doctor of the U.S. gymnastics team, was sentenced to 125 years in prison.

Speaker 1 There are 265 victims that we know of at this point in terms of victims that he touched inappropriately molested, like horrible, horrible, horrible.

Speaker 1 So this was happening in the background two years after the 2016 Olympics.

Speaker 1 And in the Netflix documentary, Simone reflects back on this and says, there's no doubt that when she got to the Olympics in 2020 and 2021, this was on her mind. This was triggering PTSD.

Speaker 1 Well, of course. I mean, here you have this huge case.
She was one of the victims in the case. Now you're on the biggest world stage in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 No wonder if you're suffering from PTSD, you would have this sort of thing happening to you. And then you want to know what else happened?

Speaker 1 Is that right after she withdrew from the Olympics, there was this huge Senate Judiciary Committee meeting in September of 2021 after the Olympics, where all of our women on the U.S.

Speaker 1 gymnastics team then went and testified before Congress. Talk about traumatizing.

Speaker 1 And I say that because I think it's really important to highlight the fact that past experiences absolutely impact you mentally.

Speaker 1 And it's why, just like you need to repair a muscle that is torn or like some part of your body that's in pain, you have to do the same thing with your brain and your nervous system.

Speaker 1 And that's why mindset is a muscle.

Speaker 1 It's a muscle that you stretch, it's a muscle that you strengthen, it's a muscle that you repair, it's a muscle that you take care of, it's a muscle that needs rest.

Speaker 1 And I love that she is teaching us that winners always quit

Speaker 1 when they know it's the right thing to do, that they find the courage and the bravery to take care of themselves, and that winners also

Speaker 1 treat their mindset as a muscle. They work it.
And that is 1000% available to you and me too. And that's what I hope you get a lot out of as you listen to the Mel Robbins podcast.

Speaker 1 Last but not least, we're going to talk about

Speaker 1 something that every single Olympic athlete shares. You want to know what it is? They're very clear about what they want.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you can only go after something

Speaker 1 if you know what it is you want to go after.

Speaker 1 And if you're feeling stuck in life, if you're feeling a little lost, I guarantee you, it's because you don't know what you want.

Speaker 1 And until you get clear about what you want, you're not going to change anything. You're not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 1 Being able to answer the question, what do you really want?

Speaker 1 That gives you a sense of direction. That helps you define your goals.
And every single Olympic athlete that you are watching, and Paralympic athlete that you are watching, they know what they want.

Speaker 1 They know what their goals are. That's why they're very clear in their training.
That's why they're working on it.

Speaker 1 And the same is true in life. And this lesson comes from Paralympian Famita Iyenbeku.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you a little bit about Famita. So she's from Boston.
She's now 32 years old. When she was 11, she was in a car accident and got injured.

Speaker 1 And that car accident resulted in her losing her right leg. It had to be amputated from the knee down.
So fast forward a couple years.

Speaker 1 And she is attending this running clinic in Boston that is hosted by Challenged Athletes Foundation, where she, out of all of the like people that are attending this kind of clinic, she is selected to win a free running blade.

Speaker 1 You know, those really cool, like curved blades that you see on Paralympians and Paralympic athletes and super, super cool.

Speaker 1 And so when they gave her the blade, She met this three-time Paralympian and two-time medalist, Jerome Singleton. And Jerome asked her a simple question.

Speaker 1 What do you want to do with this running blade?

Speaker 1 Simple question.

Speaker 1 She told him she wanted to learn how to run

Speaker 1 and to do something meaningful with it.

Speaker 1 Now, let's just pause on that. She didn't say, I want to be a Paralympian.
She didn't say, I want to be an American record holder, which she now is. She said, I want to learn how to run.

Speaker 1 Like, let's just start with the basics. I'd like to use this and learn how to use this to run.

Speaker 1 And then she said, I'd like to do something meaningful with this.

Speaker 1 That's all you need.

Speaker 1 Like, if you don't know what you want,

Speaker 1 oftentimes just start by improving yourself.

Speaker 1 That's all she was doing. I'd like to learn how to run.
I'd like to do something meaningful. Did she say what the meaningful thing was? No.

Speaker 1 And that's all you need to know.

Speaker 1 That one question.

Speaker 1 What do you want to do with your running blade?

Speaker 1 And her answer illustrates the power of knowing what you want.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't have to be anything big.

Speaker 1 It can just be one step forward.

Speaker 1 It could be, I don't want to be doing this. I'd like to be doing that.
I just don't want to be where I am. I'd just like to be a bit better than I am.
I'd like to be a bit happier.

Speaker 1 She just wanted to learn to run.

Speaker 1 She not only learned to run, she has gone on to become a three-time Paralympian, an eight-time national champ. I mean, holy smokes.

Speaker 1 And the Paralympics are at the end of the summer and she will be there. She's going to be running after having a baby six months ago.
Her baby's going to be with her.

Speaker 1 And, you know, as I was looking into her story, I found this quote from Famita.

Speaker 1 And she said, the biggest obstacle in your way is yourself.

Speaker 1 It's so true, isn't it?

Speaker 1 And here's an insight that I want to share with you.

Speaker 1 Having coached people for more than a decade, having researched and written all these books, having hosted this podcast now for almost two years and hearing your feedback, I can boil down the two ways that you become your own obstacle.

Speaker 1 Because there's only two.

Speaker 1 You either stop yourself from going after what you want,

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 more likely, you've never taken the time to be honest with yourself

Speaker 1 about what you really want.

Speaker 1 And that last

Speaker 1 obstacle,

Speaker 1 you've never taken the time

Speaker 1 to truly ask yourself, what do you really want?

Speaker 1 Famida was lucky. She had somebody ask her the question, what do you want to do with this running blade that you just won?

Speaker 1 And she answered it. And so I'm going to ask you.

Speaker 1 Do you know what you really want?

Speaker 1 It's kind of a hard question question to answer, honestly.

Speaker 1 Because it's easy to just kind of keep going after the next thing that seems like the right thing and just go through the motions. And it's how we all climb the ladder, right?

Speaker 1 You just kind of go from high school to college and then you get your job. Then you get the next job.

Speaker 1 And then you like find the person and then you get in a committed relationship and then you get married. And then you got to get the apartment.
And then you have the kids or you don't have the kids.

Speaker 1 And then next thing you know, you want a better kitchen. But then like, it just is like the next thing.
And then, but what do you really want?

Speaker 1 Like if we borrow what we're learning from all these amazing Olympic and Paralympic athletes is they're very clear about what they want and they are laser focused on chipping away every day and doing the work to get there.

Speaker 1 So I want to help you answer that question. In fact, I'm really excited because the very next episode that you're going to listen to on the Mel Robbins podcast helps you answer this question.

Speaker 1 The entire episode uses this scientific method called the five whys.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you all about it in this episode that's going to come next that will help you get to the truth about what you really want at this exact moment in your life.

Speaker 1 And this is the perfect time to ask yourself that question. You've been watching the Olympics.
You're so inspired. I mean, you want to do something exciting, right? Well, here's your chance.

Speaker 1 A couple times a year, I launch a podcast episode that's more like a cool, inspiring workshop. And it has a free download that allows you to take what you're going to learn even deeper.

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Speaker 1 And that workbook is going to use science and it's going to walk you through all these prompts and it's going to force you to sit down and get really clear about what you actually want at this moment in your life and this is so good it's a surprisingly hard question to answer in fact not a day goes by when i don't receive dozens of emails in the inbox at melrobbins.com asking this question mel i don't know what i want mel How do I figure out what I want?

Speaker 1 Mel, I don't know what my purpose is. How do I know what my purpose is?

Speaker 1 How do I figure out what my goals are? I'll tell you how.

Speaker 1 You listen to your friend Mel Robbins because I'm going to help you answer this question. I don't care how successful you are.

Speaker 1 I don't care if you're stuck, if you're just cruising through your life, if you're an Olympic athlete or you're just an Olympic hopeful like the rest of us, taking a moment and asking yourself the question, what do I really want?

Speaker 1 At this moment in my life, what do I really want?

Speaker 1 Gaining the clarity about what you want and why you want it, it will launch you forward.

Speaker 1 It will give you exactly what you need to apply everything that you've learned today from all these amazing Olympians and Paralympians and apply the bronze metal mindset and start chipping away at it.

Speaker 1 Start working toward it. Because once you figure out what you want, you know what you can do? You can visualize.
You can.

Speaker 1 feel yourself doing the work to make it happen, but not until you're clear about what you actually want.

Speaker 1 And in the very next episode, guess what question I'm going to ask you? What do you really want?

Speaker 1 And more importantly, in the next episode, I'm going to walk you through this extraordinary research-backed scientific method that will help you get to the root of what you want with a level of honesty and bravery you probably have never had.

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Speaker 1 going and achieving it. And I think you'll be astonished by what you can accomplish and how free you feel knowing what you're working toward.

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Speaker 1 You're going to have your download, and you're going to be listening with millions of people who are getting clear about what they want.

Speaker 1 And then you better believe your friend Mel Robbins is going to be there every step of the way to put my hand on your back and empower you to keep on moving forward.

Speaker 1 Because once you're clear about what you want, all you need to do is wake up every day and chip away at it. And if you can do that, I am certain you can can achieve extraordinary things.

Speaker 1 So thank you for listening and allowing me to go on and on about the Olympics. Thank you for letting me give you this gift.
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Speaker 1 Please share this with your friends and family. This is a game changer.

Speaker 1 Share this with them and I will be waiting for you in the very next episode to help you get very clear about what you deserve, what you want, and why you want it.

Speaker 1 Awesome. All right, in case nobody else tells you, I'm going to tell you, I love you.
I believe in you. And I believe in your ability to be enthusiastic about chocolate muffins

Speaker 1 and have a bronze medal mindset. And in the next episode, I believe in your ability to get very clear about exactly what you want.
I'll see you there.

Speaker 1 If anyone's winning a gold, silver, or bronze medal for bloopers, today it's me. I'm talking about none other than USA's

Speaker 1 Steve Nedoroski, right? Roski, Roski, Riesky. I don't know.
What the hell's his name? Nedoroskik.

Speaker 1 Steve Nedarosik. Did I say it right? Nedaroskik.
Netarosic. Did I get it right?

Speaker 1 Oh my God. That was launch.
And so they did this huge research study that has been found and they did this huge research study that was published in the American Psychological Association.

Speaker 1 I'm having trouble speaking today. I'm so excited about the topic.
Let me just take a glass of water. See, winners know when to quit.
I need to quit talking right now and get some water.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what I did not learn from the Olympics is organization because I cannot do it. I literally just organized all my notes.

Speaker 1 Cheese, Louise. Cheese, cheese, cheese.
I just had this here.

Speaker 1 Can you guys see? Oh, it's in front of me.

Speaker 1 This is a height of summer August episode. Can you tell everybody?

Speaker 1 Oh, and one more thing. And no, this is not a blooper.
This is the legal language. You know what the lawyers write and what I need to read to you.

Speaker 1 This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. I'm just your friend.

Speaker 1 I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Got it? Good.

Speaker 1 I'll see you in the next episode.

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