No Mercy / No Malice: Good Ideas Will Save the Country

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Speaker 4 Jessica Tarloff, my Raging Moderates co-host, has talked with a string of Democratic leaders since we launched the podcast about a year ago.

Speaker 4 Most agree that the party must do a better job of demonstrating what it stands for, not just what it's against.

Speaker 4 However, politicians and the media devote most of their energy to opposing Trump, responding with outrage to the falsehoods, attacks on the rule of law, and damaging policy initiatives flowing from the White House.

Speaker 4 Resistance is vital, but the party must also make a bolder and more specific case for how it plans to tackle concerns over the cost of living, immigration, jobs, AI, healthcare, and a host of other issues.

Speaker 4 This week, I've asked Jessica, a Democratic strategist and panelist on Fox's The Five, to reflect on what she's learned over the past 12 months and explore how the party can rebuild trust among disenchanted voters.

Speaker 4 Good Ideas Will Save the Country and the Democrats by Jessica Tarloff, as read by George Hahn.

Speaker 4 When almost two-thirds of voters say they don't like you, the highest level of disapproval in more than three decades, your party is in serious trouble.

Speaker 4 This is the position Democrats are in a year after convincing themselves that Kamala Harris was the answer.

Speaker 4 It's also been almost a year since Scott and I started Raging Moderates, our twice-weekly podcast and ode to centrism.

Speaker 4 We've spent hours talking to politicians and journalists about the state of the country and the Democratic Party, which most admit is a long way from being campaign ready.

Speaker 4 For now, that might be a good thing. When they're not campaigning, these Democrats are advocating for smart policy.
Their ideas aren't just reversals of President Trump's agenda.

Speaker 4 They are innovative ways to help people buy a home, improve classrooms, and even fix the border.

Speaker 4 Speaking to politicians on both sides of the aisle about the struggles of boys and men, I was surprised by how often they were not only aware of the problem, but had answers about how to solve it.

Speaker 4 I was also impressed by how effective podcasting can be in stimulating rich conversations.

Speaker 4 I heard politicians articulate their plans more deeply and honestly than they do anywhere else.

Speaker 4 I'm not the first person from television to realize this, but when you want to learn something new, host a podcast.

Speaker 4 It's also refreshing for some listeners to hear me speak in longer than a 45-second sound bite. Who knew I could talk for three minutes straight when given the chance?

Speaker 4 Last week, I was joined by Hillary Clinton, who told me she would nominate Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize if he could end Russia's war in Ukraine without giving away Ukrainian territory.

Speaker 4 A funny moment and a great social media clip. As the conversation continued, Trump faded into the background.

Speaker 4 She told me we have to double down on helping young men and women succeed in the AI era, saying young men in particular need support not just in making a good living, but in getting the respect they deserve.

Speaker 4 She is optimistic about the future of the country and her party. Clinton said the Democrats need to present an alternative vision.
Nobody knows what that will be, but right now, who cares?

Speaker 4 Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, just give me some compelling concrete ideas. Here are five I've heard.

Speaker 4 One, offer no interest loans.

Speaker 4 Trump won last year's election on the issue of affordability, which the media defined as the price of eggs and milk. But before you put food on the table, there has to be a table.

Speaker 4 America is in a housing crisis. Nearly a third of American households are cost-burdened, spending more than 30% of their income on housing.
Half of all renters are in that position.

Speaker 4 And while more Americans own than rent, there are signs that dynamic could change as Gen Z enters adulthood.

Speaker 4 The solution is to build more affordable housing, as all three leading candidates in New York City's mayoral race will tell you.

Speaker 4 But many developers aren't interested because there's a huge gap between the cost of construction and the rents people can pay.

Speaker 4 Government intervention can fill it, but only if towns and cities have the resources.

Speaker 4 Representative Greg Landsman, a Democrat from Ohio, spoke with me about our broken economy in May. One of his top pledges?

Speaker 4 Fund a bank that provides zero-interest loans and forgivable grants to local communities.

Speaker 4 The loans would pay for housing and infrastructure and, coupled with permitting and zoning reform, allow towns to build more quickly and in more places. It's an ambitious plan.

Speaker 4 In Landsman's own words, it would be the largest federal investment in housing and community development in U.S. history.
But big problems require big solutions.

Speaker 4 Two, tackle learning loss.

Speaker 4 Teens who attended high school throughout the pandemic voted for the first time in a presidential election last year. Many lurched to the right.

Speaker 4 Harris's vote share among voters aged 18 to 29 dropped 10 points nationwide compared to Biden four years before, according to the Fox News voter analysis.

Speaker 4 The decline was five points steeper in California, which had the lowest in-person schooling of any state.

Speaker 4 Democrats can't be surprised. Remote learning during the pandemic drove academic and mental health declines.

Speaker 4 Research shows that kids in school districts that went mostly remote or hybrid in 2020 and 2021 fell behind by more than half a year.

Speaker 4 Students who mostly attended school in person suffered from learning losses as well, but by only four months.

Speaker 4 Many of those students are still in school. So there is time for them to catch up, and research consistently shows that one-on-one support is a great way to do it.

Speaker 4 Although providing more tutoring is a popular idea, teachers, parents, and unions love it, the problem is scale.

Speaker 4 Not only is there not enough money to hire tutors for millions of kids, but there also aren't enough tutors in the first place.

Speaker 4 Massachusetts Representative Jake Auchincloss told me that live online tutoring is one of the keys to confronting the challenge with artificial intelligence potentially complementing the role humans

Speaker 4 Implementing that plan might cause some tension with unions, but it would address the problem of scale. The technology, which is being piloted in programs across the U.S., is only going to advance.

Speaker 4 Democrats can help accelerate the progress.

Speaker 4 3. Base immigration decisions on merit.

Speaker 4 Immigration, another area where Democrats missed the mark during the Biden presidency, ranked as the second most important issue in the last election, behind only the economy.

Speaker 4 Three in ten voters called it the single biggest factor in their decision. Of those voters, 81% voted for Trump, compared with just 18% for Harris.

Speaker 4 On Election Day, however, voters had mixed feelings about Trump's agenda. While two-thirds favored reducing the number of immigrants allowed to seek asylum when they arrive at the border, only 44%

Speaker 4 supported deporting undocumented immigrants already living in the country.

Speaker 4 Trump has, to his credit, overseen a decline in illegal crossings. But he's also unleashed chaos and cruelty, from reviving family separation to hunting down immigrants at Home Depot.

Speaker 4 He pledged to deport the worst of the worst. Instead, his administration has detained thousands of people who have no criminal convictions.

Speaker 4 James Carville has been blunt about the border for a while, repeatedly blaming the far left's influence for Biden's early failures.

Speaker 4 But when I interviewed him a few weeks ago, he also came with a blueprint for a smarter immigration policy.

Speaker 4 His solution is a points-based system that would not only expedite entry for high-performing talent, but also re-establish an orderly process for people who are already here.

Speaker 4 As he told me, quote, somebody who has been in this country for 35 years, held the same job, raised three kids, they've all gone to college, that person gets 10 points.

Speaker 4 Somebody is here for three months and they've committed three crimes, they get no points, unquote. Most voters like immigrants.
What they don't like is disorder.

Speaker 4 A merit-based immigration system, both before and after entry, would go a long way toward addressing that.

Speaker 4 4.

Speaker 4 Help people find meaningful work.

Speaker 4 You've heard Scott talk about college a lot. Last year he lamented to the Wall Street Journal that we still jam everyone through this four-year liberal arts construct.

Speaker 4 For a lot of people, the we in that sentence means Democrats.

Speaker 4 That's why I was surprised and excited to hear from so many guests who wanted to help people find meaningful work, whether they have a degree or or not.

Speaker 4 And in particular, boys and men who are at risk of falling further behind.

Speaker 4 New York Representative Richie Torres said work is, quote, not only about economics, it's about creating meaning in one's life.

Speaker 4 It's about giving someone the dignity of building a foundation on which to raise a family, on which to live a life of meaning and utility.

Speaker 4 Torres, a college dropout himself, bemoaned the college for all culture, calling it a profoundly corrosive contributor to mental illness, substance abuse, and deaths of despair.

Speaker 4 Our guests brought a handful of ideas to the table to help people find a fulfilling path.

Speaker 4 One that stood out for its simplicity and bipartisan appeal was from another New York congressman, Pat Ryan, who told me he wants to double the slots for existing national service programs where there are currently more applicants than places.

Speaker 4 Ryan, who served two combat tours in Iraq, said, quote,

Speaker 4 my life was changed by military service and exposing me to a bunch of people I wouldn't have otherwise met, forcing me to work together with them towards a common mission.

Speaker 4 The greatest reward and joy in life is accomplishing something for a cause greater than yourself, unquote.

Speaker 4 There is a difference between bipartisan appeal and bipartisan support. Ryan said some Republicans like the idea but don't want to put up the money.

Speaker 4 Still, he's working with a bipartisan caucus of veterans to get it done.

Speaker 4 5.

Speaker 4 Rehire Every Veteran

Speaker 4 Many Americans have positive views about joining the military. What happens when they return from service is often a different story.

Speaker 4 This country has a checkered history when it comes to looking after veterans. It got uglier this year.
Thousands of them lost their jobs after Elon Musk slashed the federal workforce.

Speaker 4 Veterans were particularly vulnerable to Doge.

Speaker 4 They make up nearly 30% of the civilian federal workforce and often struggle to find work elsewhere because of culture gaps and problems translating military skills into regular jobs.

Speaker 4 They are also younger than some people assume. Nearly three in ten are under the age of 50.

Speaker 4 This is Doge's problem. Voters want a more efficient government.
What they clearly don't want are indiscriminate cuts that weaken important programs and harm people.

Speaker 4 Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego wants to rehire every veteran at the VA and across the federal government.

Speaker 4 His proposal would include protections to ensure that a worker can still be fired for negligence or if there is proof that their job is no longer needed.

Speaker 4 Enacting his bill would give dignity and stability back to veterans who deserve it and prevent the decline in mental health that goes along with long-term unemployment.

Speaker 4 The cost is negligible, especially when you compare it to Trump's multi-trillion-dollar tax cuts. Gallego, a Marine veteran, is already seen as a potential presidential contender in 2028.

Speaker 4 More ideas like these would would elevate him even higher on Democratic candidate wish lists.

Speaker 4 I thought I knew almost everything about the Democrats.

Speaker 4 Over the past year, I've gained an even deeper understanding, hearing an array of practical solutions that could make a profound difference in the lives of millions of Americans.

Speaker 4 Blue governance has failed in some of our crown jewel cities, but we can learn from leaders like Nevada Senator Catherine Cortez-Masto, who's working with Republicans on common sense policies.

Speaker 4 Her message is simple. Let's get it done.

Speaker 4 Trump may be burning down institutions, but the Democrats, fueled by a younger generation of politicians keen to seize the moment and shake up the status quo, can help rebuild a better America.

Speaker 4 Among them is Mallory McMorrow, a state senator from Michigan who's who's running for a U.S. Senate seat and turning 39 tomorrow.

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