S2E8: Sweet Vitriol (with Patricia Arquette and Jimmy Kimmel)

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Speaker 5 hey i'm ben stiller i'm adam scott and i'm patricia arquette and this is the severance podcast with ben and adam and patricia arquette yes where we break down every episode of severance and today we're talking about the eighth episode of season two sweet vitriol written by adam county and kcee perry and directed by ben stiller and patricia

Speaker 21 Not really, though. And this is an exciting episode of our podcast because you're here, Patricia.

Speaker 21 Have you been on a podcast before?

Speaker 4 I probably have, but I don't want to.

Speaker 4 Wait a second. Do you remember?

Speaker 4 I'm trying to block it out.

Speaker 21 All right. This is what we deal with, folks.

Speaker 24 Are you going to block this out eventually?

Speaker 22 Like five minutes after I leave.

Speaker 21 And also, our other guest on the podcast after Patricia is the great Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 26 Yeah, he's going to help us answer some of your hotline questions.

Speaker 21 And he'll remember being here

Speaker 21 and enjoy it.

Speaker 22 Good. He's going to enjoy it whether he enjoys it or not.

Speaker 21 And also, we have Zach Cherry.

Speaker 4 Of course. Oh, I love him.

Speaker 21 Yes, to predict what's going to happen in next week's episode. But before we dive in, here's your spoiler warning and ours that we are talking about everything from episode eight of season two.

Speaker 21 So go watch that before you listen to to the podcast. Now, interestingly enough, Patricia, you probably can't give any spoilers because

Speaker 11 have you seen Severance?

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 22 I mean, I've seen episode one of season two.

Speaker 21 You're up to episode one of season two. Yeah.

Speaker 22 What did you think? I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 24 Do you like to wait till it's going out into the world before you see anything?

Speaker 22 I do. And in general, I don't like seeing anything.
I mean, so it's kind of a little bit like dragging a mouse who has its nails out digging into wood

Speaker 5 towards the television to watch themselves

Speaker 22 a little mouse yeah that's me mice hate seeing themselves on TV I know it's so big you're so big up there and daunting did you ever see Escape a Danamora I did yeah okay

Speaker 22 I saw it once

Speaker 22 I mean, I'll run into myself on TV sometimes.

Speaker 22 Like, I'll be changing channels and I'll see like, oh my God, that's me in true romance and I might watch a bit that's cool and be like wow I'm so young or I'll see us in flirting with disaster wow we're so young

Speaker 21 look at we're babies don't you Ben don't you wish you could say that you run across yourself in true romance I do I do I was never that cool flirting with disaster is pretty damn cool I never got into the Tarantino verse and I know that was a Tony Scott movie but it is a

Speaker 4 Tarantino verse

Speaker 6 as you guys both know flirting with disaster is one of my very very favorite movies.

Speaker 4 I've told you so much. We had so much fun.

Speaker 21 We had a great time, and then like weirdly didn't really see each other for a while until Escape It Dana Mora, like 25 years went by or something.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 21 And then, but it was like we never stopped being like a brother and sister, is what I feel like.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah. As soon as we like were back together, the gang was back together.
Yeah. You know, it was like the Beatles getting back together.

Speaker 4 No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 I mean, I wish. Yeah.

Speaker 26 So Dan Amora is like, Who are you?

Speaker 15 Escape it.

Speaker 26 Escape it. Dan Amora is Ringo.

Speaker 4 Sergeant Pepper.

Speaker 21 We're all Ringo. I'm sorry.
Can I just say Ringo is the best?

Speaker 28 Ringo rules. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Listen, I don't think Ringo's a joke. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 No, no. I love Ringo.
Ringo's staring.

Speaker 21 Literally one of the... And also, talk about eternally youthful.

Speaker 21 Him and Paul McCartney, it's crazy. I mean, I've never really met Ringo Starr.
I wonder if he watches Severance.

Speaker 4 Have you met Ringo Stringo?

Speaker 22 I don't know. I vaguely feel like maybe I did for one second.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 4 So how come come you don't remember anything that ever happened to me?

Speaker 4 Just too much trauma. No.
Too much trauma.

Speaker 22 Yeah. And severed.
Maybe I'm severed.

Speaker 4 What about Paul McCartney?

Speaker 27 Did you guys meet Paul McCartney?

Speaker 22 I did. And also, I have an NGO, and Paul McCartney was one of the first people to donate to it.

Speaker 4 Wow. Wow.
Which was really cool.

Speaker 22 My sister actually dated him for a while.

Speaker 4 Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 22 Yes, exactly. Whoa.
Okay, my sister dated a Beetle.

Speaker 21 That's amazing. Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 21 That's pretty incredible.

Speaker 4 Who did you date back in the day?

Speaker 4 Come on, give us a song.

Speaker 22 I'm not a kiss and tell, sweetheart.

Speaker 21 I need a clip from this podcast.

Speaker 4 We need to get something out there. We got to push something out on showbacks.
Push it off. Push it out.
There's something else here.

Speaker 22 I have to find a dead person to talk about.

Speaker 21 But you were around show business as a child. Like, you grew up in this crazy show biz hippie world with brothers and sisters who are all in it.

Speaker 21 And your dad, Louis Arquette, was really just a very accomplished character actor, really funny. He's in Waiting for Guffman.

Speaker 4 Oh my God.

Speaker 22 He's the old man at Waiting for Guffman. Yep.
The Waltons he was on.

Speaker 21 Maybe that's why we feel like brother and sister a little because we have similar stories for his background.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 22 And also that kind of sense of humor. And there's something about the time we grew up.
It was a very strange time in the world. Like it was a really inappropriate time

Speaker 22 and funny.

Speaker 25 You mean the 70s generally?

Speaker 22 Yeah, like there was a lot of satire on television, political satire, satire, and for sure.

Speaker 21 Public people talked about stuff on TV in talk show situations that they would now never talk about.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 21 Never. Real stuff.
People just talk about real things. It's fascinating.
Have you ever watched any of those old Dick Cabot shows?

Speaker 4 Oh, I love those.

Speaker 21 Mike Douglas or David Sussex.

Speaker 6 They would have actual conversations that unfolded, not worrying about laughs.

Speaker 21 Yeah, everybody's smoking and just being.

Speaker 22 I think Jim Unique was on acid on one of those. Oh, really?

Speaker 4 I'm sure. Yeah.

Speaker 21 You're not on acid now, are you?

Speaker 22 I don't know.

Speaker 4 Okay. Sometimes one.

Speaker 4 I'm not.

Speaker 21 Patricia, you're so great as a person, first of all. I love you.

Speaker 21 And you're a great actor, amazing actor. And just in regards to severance, what was it when you read the script and you saw Harmony Cobel? What went through your head?

Speaker 22 Well, Ben, you know damn well you only gave me the pilot. And you know damn well I'm barely in the pilot.
So I was like, what the hell is he giving me this for? I'm like, Ben, who is this lady?

Speaker 22 What is this company doing? What is going on here? Wait, where is this going? What's my art? And so you'd give me a few little cryptic answers.

Speaker 4 What am I getting paid?

Speaker 21 That's the first thing you asked.

Speaker 22 Let's be. You paid me yesterday.

Speaker 4 Why don't you?

Speaker 21 That's Patricia's first question.

Speaker 4 Yeah, in the bank.

Speaker 22 Put the money in the bank before I even pick up the phone.

Speaker 22 So you guys just gave me all these cryptic answers. And finally, I just thought, okay, this is a really interesting genre.
I haven't really done sci-fi, which I like.

Speaker 22 And this lady is inscrutable and interesting. And this is weird.
And I totally trust Ben. So I'm going to go to this blind date and just jump in.

Speaker 21 I love that you were willing to do that too, because I got excited when I read it because I could see you in it.

Speaker 21 And I didn't know exactly what you would do with it, but I just knew that you could create something really interesting with this person.

Speaker 21 And that's been the whole thing on the show has been like, you know, kind of the actors kind of jumped in.

Speaker 21 And we've talked a lot about this, about having this room to kind of experiment and figure it out, which we kind of did over the course of the first season, right?

Speaker 22 Yeah. And even just finding the look and the character and everything.

Speaker 22 I don't know why early on I was like, you know, I kind of see her with gray or white hair. And you were like, what? What do you mean? And I was like, let's just try it.

Speaker 22 You know, let's just do a camera test, a makeup test, and we'll just have one of those wigs and look at it. And I think we were all like, oh, yeah, there's something about that.

Speaker 24 It's cool.

Speaker 28 It's like silver hair.

Speaker 22 There was a lot of strict structure in the lumen world. And for a long time, I didn't really understand what the tone was.
And then you cut it together and showed me.

Speaker 21 What about her voice?

Speaker 22 Well, that, to me, was like something she had picked up from other people. Like, subconsciously, I decided, like, oh, this is what upper management sounds like.

Speaker 22 And that's the sound of like success in the workplace. Like, this is what I'm supposed to be.
And this is what I'm supposed to sound like. And how do I get up this ladder?

Speaker 22 I have to look like this, sound like this, be like this.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 22 So she kind of had that.

Speaker 25 In season one, you had Mrs.

Speaker 28 Selvig as well. Was Mrs.

Speaker 5 Selvig like a place to kind of put everything she's not allowed to do in her regular life?

Speaker 29 Like, it's just interesting.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it was sort of like trying on what is it like to be a normal person, you know, like experimenting with the freedom of that.

Speaker 22 What is it like to make friends in a kind of normal way?

Speaker 22 I mean, there was a part of it first, it was this affectation of, I'm going to disarm you with your mommy issues by being the fumbling, bumbling auntie, whatever, next door.

Speaker 21 Next door neighbor.

Speaker 22 Yeah, next door neighbor is a little nosy, but you are a nice boy. So you're going to be nice to the mommy lady.

Speaker 22 And, you know, I'll insinuate myself into your life so I can sneak around more and find out. But then it also became like, are we chums? We are having fun.

Speaker 22 And oh, is this what it's like to have fun with somebody in the world, you know, and go do things

Speaker 4 outside of work?

Speaker 22 And wow, what does this feel like?

Speaker 21 I love Mrs. Selvig

Speaker 21 and your relationship with her in the first season. It makes me laugh so much every time you have an interaction where you're sort of perplexed by her or just not wanting to deal with her.

Speaker 21 Or when you come outside, first of all, when you make the bad cookies, the awful cookies, and then we sort of reveal in your house all the cookie tray and the mess.

Speaker 22 There's a real closed circle with the cookie thing, which we will get to later.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 21 The scene outside in the snow when you're taking the garbage out

Speaker 4 and you're like, oh, looks like Jack Frost is dandruff shampoo. Yeah, he's run out of dandruff shampoo.
So ridiculous.

Speaker 21 That was an improv. You also improv open or closed both.

Speaker 4 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 21 But then you're thing of like, you say, let's go have some lavender tea or something later. And you're like, I just want to kind of see how the day develops.

Speaker 21 It's like such a lame out.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 29 But a lame out that should work with your nosy neighbor. Yeah, like you don't need to come up with something better than that, right?

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 29 We, we also shot a scene in season one where we were driving together. You hit your ride with me on the way back from the funeral.

Speaker 29 We shot a scene where we're driving, and you try holding hands with me.

Speaker 4 Remember, shooting that? Oh, yeah, it was interesting.

Speaker 7 It probably just ended up being like too much or something, right?

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah.
And we have this whole scene in the car,

Speaker 22 which was which maybe we could use as a flashback or a fantasy of marks.

Speaker 4 Oh my,

Speaker 4 I would buy it.

Speaker 21 Okay, you know what? It's time for us to take a drive down to Salt's Neck. So when we come back, we're going to keep talking to Patricia Arquette about episode eight.
Is that cool, Patricia?

Speaker 22 So cool, Ben.

Speaker 4 So cool.

Speaker 21 Okay, and you will remember that we're here.

Speaker 21 Who are you? That's very appropriate for the show.

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 21 All right, we'll be uh we'll be right back.

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Speaker 5 Okay, so Sweet Vitriol, episode 8. This is a very different episode for Severance.

Speaker 28 It's the Harmony Cobel show, essentially.

Speaker 25 We get to follow her as she returns to her old home in Salt's Neck.

Speaker 29 Patricia, what was your first reaction when you read this particular script?

Speaker 22 I liked it.

Speaker 22 I mean, we had been talking for quite a while, quite a long while, about her origin story, sort of, and the school that she'd grown up in and how Lumen had impacted her and her relationship with her mom.

Speaker 22 And so to kind of see it more fleshed out and see the space and the coolness. And we went up to Newfoundland and it was very, it's such a special, unique place.

Speaker 22 You know it's yeah so difficult to get to and so difficult to live there that it's very locked in its own time and it it had this sort of difficult terrain to survive in and then you can really see how harmony is an extension of that yeah how it like hardens people how how did you find that Newfoundland would be the perfect salt neck yeah we uh were knowing that we needed to have some sort of a vibe of the you know the northeast-ish look that sort of has because we shoot in upstate New York and we wanted to feel like it was a drivable location from Kier.

Speaker 21 And then Ryan Smith, our location manager, went out.

Speaker 21 But really, Jessica Lee Gagne, our cinematographer and director of episode seven, had worked in Newfoundland 10 years ago on an island called Fogo Island, which is off the coast of Newfoundland.

Speaker 21 There's actually an incredible hotel there, which we didn't stay at, like this modern-looking hotel.

Speaker 4 Thanks, man.

Speaker 4 Richard.

Speaker 21 It was crazy. I mean, mean, first of all, it's a beautiful place.
We shot in a town called Bonavista. And yeah, you land in Gander and then you have to drive about three hours to get there.

Speaker 21 And the thing about the terrain in Newfoundland is it's rugged and beautiful, but it's not, the scale of it is not like somewhere like Iceland or Greenland or something like that, where it's gigantic mountains.

Speaker 21 Right. You know, it's a little bit smaller, but it's still as beautiful in its own way.

Speaker 9 It has a vastness to it.

Speaker 21 It's just it's not a lot of things are filmed there. Yeah.
And it's tough. The people who are living there are having to deal with long, cold winters.

Speaker 22 They have a certain way that they sound.

Speaker 22 Like with the ice froze in this whole time from the late 1700s, early 1800s, this broke from Ireland. They'll eat things like a bowl of fried codfish tongues.

Speaker 8 I had that for breakfast every morning.

Speaker 24 And was the town essentially in the episode, is it as you found it?

Speaker 5 Or like the coffee shop, for instance?

Speaker 29 Was that an existing structure?

Speaker 21 It's an existing structure. Yeah.
It's actually a coffee shop that we redid and painted. And we shot in, I think, two different little villages and Bona Vista, too, for different locations.

Speaker 21 And, you know, we were all living in Airbnbs. And it was.
I loved it.

Speaker 4 We had an amazing time.

Speaker 21 We were there for about, I don't know, five weeks. And Jessica put together a crew from Montreal of people she had worked with.
So it was a much smaller unit. And we found these great places to shoot.

Speaker 21 And James Legro, who plays Hampton, came up. And so great.

Speaker 21 Had you known James from before?

Speaker 22 So, I mean, growing up in L.A., I was a big fan, like everybody of Drugstore Cowboy. And he was amazing in that movie.
And then I was dating this guy at the time, John Philbin. Was it his name?

Speaker 22 He was an actor.

Speaker 22 And I had to move i was living in my mom's garage at the time and i was moving out and so he had a friend come over to help me move all these boxes so i made him and his friend for helping me like some cookies right and i put in the cookies these walnuts so i gave them some cookies when they were done and his friend was james legreaux who was helping move all these boxes and i was like oh thank you so much and here's some cookies and thanks and he was like these are the best cookies i've ever had in my life and and then I was like oh thank you very much very different from Mrs.

Speaker 24 Selva he left

Speaker 22 exactly we're back to the cookies but I tasted the cookies when he left and I was like these are salty because I didn't realize the walnuts were salted now Smash forward 30 years, everyone's adding salts to caramel salt to chocolates.

Speaker 22 So he meant it when he said they were good. But I was like, these are the worst salty cookies ever on me.

Speaker 21 So Mark was lying when he said they were good in the show. Yeah.
But James Legro.

Speaker 22 But in 30 years, Mark will be wrong. James LeGreux was telling the truth.

Speaker 6 I think they sound delicious.

Speaker 22 They were delicious. And when we talked and we were working, he's like, oh, I remember those cookies.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 21 That's great. Those were the greatest cookies.
Wow. Let's listen to a little scene when you guys first see each other.

Speaker 34 Harmony, Copel.

Speaker 34 Well, flip my tobacco.

Speaker 34 You want coffee?

Speaker 34 No.

Speaker 34 Tables are for paying customers.

Speaker 34 Fine, I'm buying me a coffee.

Speaker 28 Harmony is hardcore.

Speaker 26 She wakes up in her car, brushes her teeth in the parking lot, and then doesn't even want coffee.

Speaker 22 I want coffee, but I want him to buy it for me.

Speaker 21 I mean, there's a lot of history between you two. A lot of history that's just unspoken.

Speaker 21 And that was, I think, the reason that we thought James would be great, even if it was just this cookie moment you guys had 30 years ago. I felt like, you know, I knew you guys were in L.A.

Speaker 21 in the 90s when we were all starting out. And kind of, it just felt like there would be a history there with you guys in some way that you could share.
And he's such a great actor.

Speaker 21 And I just love that you kind of played off of that.

Speaker 22 Look, James LeGreau is a heavy hitter. So sometimes, you know, you have those people and you're like, okay, you don't have a lot of scenes to like establish this depth between people.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 But there's something there and you could see them together and they're of this time together. And we could communicate in this way.
And, you know, he's so good. So great.

Speaker 29 It's amazing watching you guys when you're talking in the parking lot.

Speaker 25 The dialogue is so minimal, but there is so much there.

Speaker 28 And you completely get you two.

Speaker 25 You completely get it just watching your faces.

Speaker 21 Yeah, between your eyes and James's eyes. You know, you just train the camera on them and let you guys interact.
By the way, also in the Drippy Pot, going back to history,

Speaker 21 there's a guy sitting who's kind of giving you the stink eye, who's my old friend Jerry Stahl, who I knew from Permanent Midnight.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you played him.

Speaker 21 And he wrote the book Permanent Midnight. We met in LA, you know, in 19, whatever, 97.
So there was, you know, I felt like we were kind of dipping into our histories there together.

Speaker 27 And who was that woman in the Drippy Pot?

Speaker 21 She was a local actress. She,

Speaker 21 I think she came from St. John's and who's amazing.
Great. And her name is Claire Coulter, and she just had a lovely quality about her and was just, I remember.

Speaker 25 So I rewound her stuff today.

Speaker 9 I was just. Yeah.

Speaker 34 You can top me off anytime.

Speaker 34 I like the nerdoo.

Speaker 24 You see that Hampton has a bit of a drug issue.

Speaker 28 He's huffing ether, but he's also seems to be the supplier or the dealer of ether at the coffee shop. Am I right?

Speaker 21 He is.

Speaker 4 He's dealing.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 21 That's interesting because he's dealing to Jerry Stahl early.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he sure is.

Speaker 25 This town seems to have been kind of hollowed out by Lumen, certainly, but also by ether.

Speaker 5 It was an ether factory that everybody was working at.

Speaker 34 We were once chums.

Speaker 34 Our colleagues left each other up.

Speaker 34 Colleagues.

Speaker 34 Child fucking labor.

Speaker 34 Kia

Speaker 34 and I, Majin

Speaker 34 met at the ethermill.

Speaker 34 You know that.

Speaker 34 Was she hurting up along at the time?

Speaker 21 I love that we were able sort of to dig into its own vibe for the episode that felt, you know, it just was its own thing.

Speaker 21 And you and James have this connection that then gets to play out later when you're in your mom's room. And we'll talk about that in a second.

Speaker 21 But that moment between the two of you where we realize you both worked at the factory, at the ether factory, and were basically child labor and were huffing ether as children and working long hours as children, too.

Speaker 21 And I loved in that scene, it wasn't really specified that the two of you would kiss, but it's the first time we see Harmony Kobel.

Speaker 21 I mean, we've seen you when you go into your mother's room and you lay lay on the bed and you hold the breathing tube and you put it in your mouth and you have this, I think, incredibly beautiful moment where you're just feeling and connecting with something.

Speaker 22 I feel like crying right now, just connecting with something.

Speaker 21 And I remember like on its face, it was a little bit of a weird scene.

Speaker 21 It's like, okay, she's going to go into the room, find the breathing tube, and then she's going to put the breathing tube in her mouth and break down crying. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 But what I love about you is that you didn't really question that. You were like, okay, yeah, no, I get that.
And it's, I, I'm just, I watch that and I'm really moving.

Speaker 9 And there's a sound you make that is kind of like heart-shattering.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you're making this sort of moaning, crying sound, which sounded to me like weirdly like a wail. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 21 like a whale in the ocean sound. It was a wail and a, and a wail-y animal.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 There's a, you know, whole conversation about the sound of keening. The crying, that weeping that women do, that kind of like loss.

Speaker 22 You're losing a baby or you're losing a loved one. What is that kind of sound? And there is a spiritual kind of a power in that sound, I think, and an otherworldly power in that sound.

Speaker 22 And it is the mix of the adult and the baby

Speaker 22 within you. And I think she had that for her mom.
And I took care of my mom when she was sick and dying. I took care of my sister.
I've taken care of a lot of dying people in my own life.

Speaker 22 And while I'm very different than Harmony, there's also that crossover where you can take that human element within your own experience and

Speaker 22 understand this strange lady, you know, who will never get what she needed from her mom.

Speaker 21 Yeah. And we meet your aunt when you come up to the house who's sissy.

Speaker 22 Jane Alexander, amazing.

Speaker 21 Incredible, wonderful Jane Alexander. Had you worked with her before or known her before?

Speaker 22 I had never. And I'd grown up like in the 70s watching her on TV, like, you know,

Speaker 22 everybody. And she's just this huge presence, incredibly generous, warm lady.
And we're shooting in this old house up there. It didn't have any insulation.
It was really the real deal.

Speaker 22 This old wallpaper kind of crumbling off and we're freezing and boy she was up for it.

Speaker 18 Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 And the moment you see her you know that she is related to Harmony Cobel.

Speaker 4 Oh yeah. Because of that hair.

Speaker 21 It was her idea. Speaking of hair on the show and we've talked to the other actors on the show about their ideas for the look.
She had the idea of seeing your hair on the show where she said,

Speaker 21 my hair is white like that. I want to do a cut like a Cobel cut,

Speaker 21 which was just like kind of of created the character in that moment.

Speaker 22 Because subconsciously, as much as I hate my aunt, I am also structuring myself in my success to be like my aunt,

Speaker 22 to be like somebody who she would approve of. And again, this is somebody that I'm always going to for approval and who will never ever give it to me.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah, you see Harmony kind of seek that from her a few different ways throughout the episode.

Speaker 24 Yeah, she doesn't give it up.

Speaker 34 I didn't even get to say goodbye.

Speaker 34 Your studies were more important.

Speaker 34 Mr. Egan saw cure in you.

Speaker 34 He really did.

Speaker 34 And the Wintertide Fellowship, even at the factory, no apprentice was more industrious than you.

Speaker 34 Such a disappointment you've proven to be.

Speaker 21 And the resentment you have because you feel like she's responsible really for your mother's death when she kind of flips that on you at the end of the episode

Speaker 4 and calls her a coward.

Speaker 21 And, you know, you see this breach.

Speaker 21 And in that moment, we learn what the purpose is of why you come out here is to get this notebook that has the, you know, the drawings and the first ideas of how to do severance.

Speaker 21 And we learn that you are the person who created it and was able to figure out how to do it. Yeah.
Not Jamie, who we, you know, we believe created it, but no, it was you.

Speaker 34 Mine!

Speaker 35 My designs!

Speaker 35 Circuit blueprint! Base code!

Speaker 35 Overtime contingency! Glasgow block, all of it!

Speaker 2 Jay Megan was the inventor.

Speaker 4 So I've heard.

Speaker 22 And that's kind of the history of the world, right? Well, that

Speaker 22 people are inventing things and other people are usurping them and taking credit for it.

Speaker 22 And I mean, I think think she's been so indoctrinated to this organization, this slash religion, slash corporation for so long that

Speaker 22 even that

Speaker 22 through her aunt's view would be like that in itself would be amazing.

Speaker 22 Part of the mind fuck of the whole thing is that you want to be humble.

Speaker 22 And so she needs to give it to Lumen. and to the Egans and not take it as her own.
And yet it is

Speaker 21 from her.

Speaker 21 Yeah, i mean she's taken advantage of i think we get a sense of that over the course of the season with how milchik has been looked on as less than um and how as a woman i get the sense that you know that was part of why you didn't get the credit and what whatever glass ceiling at lumen is there well a lot of times these organizations too whether they're religions or military or corporations they do set up this thing where it's like

Speaker 22 unseemly for you to question things, where it's tacky, or it's bad, or it's not a group thing, or it's not of the corporation, or you're not somehow, you know, behaving the way that you're supposed to if you question these things.

Speaker 22 Like, there is not supposed to be an individual.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 25 And you even see you present this to Sissy. It was all me.

Speaker 20 And she looks at the notebook, and you can see on Jane's face, she's learning this for the first time, and she is absolutely astounded by it, but then immediately turns again and tries to burn the thing.

Speaker 13 It's wild.

Speaker 25 And you see Harmony abandoned yet again.

Speaker 22 Yeah, well, it's like whatever that archetypal, even Greek, kind of sad situation of these family relationships where people just cannot ever be seen by that person.

Speaker 21 Yeah, it is sad. But I do feel another aspect of the episode is that's somewhat redemptive is that a connection that has come back between you and Hampton,

Speaker 21 you know, that was that was left. That at the end, he does help you.

Speaker 21 And basically, we see him standing in the road as you leave with these headlights of whatever this car is coming that Sissy has apparently called from Lumen.

Speaker 21 And we don't know what's going to happen to him. And he has this great reading of come and tame these tempers.

Speaker 4 That's great. That's great.

Speaker 4 Was that an ad-live?

Speaker 21 No, that was in the script that read to perfection by James, who I just loved working with. I'd never gotten a chance to work with him also.

Speaker 21 And Patricia, I know you won't remember this conversation, but it's been so great having you on the show.

Speaker 4 Thank you. You're the best.
Thank you.

Speaker 20 I admire you so much. Yeah.

Speaker 21 So great to have you. And I know the fans of the show just love you so much and the work you do on the show.
Yeah. Like every day.
I'm so appreciative that we get to work together.

Speaker 22 Me too, guys. I love working with you.
And also, I really love these fans. They're super smart.

Speaker 4 Isn't it great?

Speaker 4 So engaged.

Speaker 22 Yeah. And also they make really cute arts and crafts.
And, you know, we're all into the arts and crafts too. Like our wardrobe department and our props and our set dressing.

Speaker 22 So I feel like we're all making this thing all together. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Totally. I am so into all the clips that fans make, the music cuts.
Yeah. They're incredible.

Speaker 25 And the drawings and the paintings.

Speaker 4 Yes. I know.
Amazing.

Speaker 22 Everything and the Halloween costumes. I mean, it's just so fun.

Speaker 29 Every time I see one on Instagram, I take a screenshot of it and I, just so I have a collection of all of these.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's so cool.

Speaker 4 There's so much creativity just kind of being spurned.

Speaker 21 What's Instagram?

Speaker 24 It's an app.

Speaker 26 Do you want to explain it, Patricia?

Speaker 22 I don't know. Who am I? Where are you?

Speaker 4 Who are you?

Speaker 22 All right. All right.
Bye, boys.

Speaker 4 Thanks, Patricia.

Speaker 22 Until we meet again.

Speaker 24 All right, let's take a break.

Speaker 26 And when we come back, Jimmy Kimmen will be here to answer some of your hotline questions.

Speaker 22 I'm going to... Sorry, guys.

Speaker 4 We're going to take a quick break and we'll be back.

Speaker 7 That's so much better than either of ours.

Speaker 21 We do that, Patricia.

Speaker 22 I'm doing it too.

Speaker 4 I can do it like the boys. No, now she's going to do a thing right now.

Speaker 4 We do.

Speaker 22 Everyone, we're taking a break. Taking a break.
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 21 All right, we're back and we're very happy to welcome to our Severance podcast, one of Severance's biggest fans, Jimmy Kimmel, the man. Very good.
Yeah. Thank you, Jimmy.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 30 Hey, I'm very glad to be here and honored to be part of this, but I just want to start with, I guess I could call an excuse. I don't know how to put this, but.

Speaker 30 I love the show so much that I refused to just gorge it so I could catch up with where you guys are in the podcast. And you sent me all the episodes and that was exciting.

Speaker 30 And at first I was like, oh, oh, this is good. But I do like watching them one week at a time.
I like the conversations I have with other people during the week. I don't love binging.

Speaker 30 I like, it's like

Speaker 30 I'm a glutton. I can't be trusted with a pile of stuff.

Speaker 24 Especially if you're like seven weeks ahead of everyone else.

Speaker 20 It kind of sucks.

Speaker 30 Yeah, and you have to be careful. You can't have discussions.
And I know it makes me a bad podcast guest, but you did just done such a good job with the show that I refused to jump ahead. So I didn't.

Speaker 30 And I'm going to be behind on the facts, but I do have a lot of questions for you guys. I know that this is your show, but I also am aware that the audience does not care about me at all.

Speaker 30 They're listening to hear about the show, right? So.

Speaker 21 Do you have any experience asking people questions in this kind of atmosphere?

Speaker 26 To a fault.

Speaker 4 To a fault, yes.

Speaker 21 I want to hear your questions for sure. And by the way, by the way, let me just say I totally agree with you about watching things.

Speaker 4 Not caring about me.

Speaker 21 Yes, that was a, yes. No, but the idea of watching something, you know, once a week, and it's changed for everybody, but that's the generation I grew up in.
You'd watch stuff once a week.

Speaker 21 But something like this, I feel when we send the whole link to everybody and, like, hey, here are all the episodes, something in my stomach sort of like tightens up because I don't know, there's just something different about it.

Speaker 21 I get excited when we've done all this work over the last few years to like click on Apple TV and like watch it for real just to see it. Like, oh, it's actually a real thing out there.

Speaker 21 And it just feels different to me somehow. Yep.
But I'm, yeah, definitely interested. Like, do you want to start hitting us with any questions? Yeah, please do.

Speaker 17 Please.

Speaker 30 I do. I do.
I'm going to tell you some of the things I love about the show. The attention to detail is just absolutely insane.

Speaker 30 I sometimes look at it and I go like, there must be something wrong with these guys. Like, I mean, how much time?

Speaker 30 I know it took a lot of time to put the show, but it seems like you layered like six different shows into one show.

Speaker 21 Yes, definitely something wrong. You're right.

Speaker 4 You hit a nail on the head.

Speaker 5 I mean, that is Ben Stiller.

Speaker 21 No, you know, yes.

Speaker 4 Not something wrong, but, you know, definitely something wrong.

Speaker 21 Yeah. No, it's definitely like when it's there in front of you, you go, okay, you know, what can we do here? How can we be specific? And it sort of evolved that way.

Speaker 21 I have to say, second season now, watching how the audience watches the show, I feel like it's good that we're paying attention to detail because people are scouring it to the point where I get stressed out about it because they're thinking about it a lot.

Speaker 30 Yeah, I think with Lost, which is, I think probably a lot of people compare this show to Lost. I haven't been this absorbed in a show since Lost.

Speaker 30 Adam, I think I I told you I started like rearranging the letters in Keir Egan to see what the anagram might be. And there's a Scrabble word, Regenay, which means of the queen.

Speaker 30 And I was like, of the queen? That could be something. And then there's like a, there's Ike Reagan, you know, it was like Reagan and Ike.
Does that mean anything? Right.

Speaker 21 Are you into the aspect of the show that is like, because I've said this before, embarrassingly, I did not watch Lost.

Speaker 21 So when all of these comparisons come up, I'm incredibly flattered that the show gets compared to this show that people have such a huge connection with and opinions about how it played out and all that.

Speaker 21 But it was like a cultural phenomenon. But I never watched it.
So for me, that mystery box term, I guess, is a term for a show.

Speaker 21 It was not one that I was that familiar with before we started working on the show. Are you, is that the thing that you're interested in in the show?

Speaker 21 Or are you interested in other aspects of it, like the tone of the humor or the, you know, the weirdness of situations?

Speaker 30 I'm interested in every aspect of the show. I love the characters.
I'm rooting for Mark, rooting for all the innies that we see regularly and we know.

Speaker 30 But one thing that I really love about the show and about the company, Lumen. It's this big, like kind of scary, somewhat menacing, mysterious organization, but they're also kind of dumb.

Speaker 30 Like they do things wrong.

Speaker 4 It's exactly right.

Speaker 21 That's one of the things that we think about all the time is that when it's a big corporation, there's things that are just clunky and just don't quite work right.

Speaker 21 You know, like we really from the beginning wanted to make sure that we showed the outlets in the walls all the time, you know? That there's stuff like places where you got to plug stuff in.

Speaker 21 Milchik has to wheel in the AV cart. And there's probably like only one AV cart.

Speaker 13 There's just a DVD player, like in seventh grade.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I think, you know, also part of the show is that sort of like the idea of corporate culture.

Speaker 21 culture for me my experience of that is from movies and tv you know like office space and the office and parks and array and so it but what's fascinating to me is like i felt like dan erickson he'd like hit on both that idea of like a show like the office that kind of humor but then this other weird overarching ideology thing that was like like taking a corporate culture or religion you know and like infusing that and then with this other twilight zoney kind of aspect to it so it was like all of these things to me were like oh, there's just something about this that is sort of like crystallizing something that we all are so familiar with now.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 30 It's so interesting. I think, I wonder if it makes people take another look around their own workplaces in some ways.

Speaker 21 It's fascinating, right? Because like what I like about how the show is developed is that the innies have found a life for themselves down there and have figured out how to cope.

Speaker 21 And I feel like that's sort of a, in my mind, a little bit of a metaphor for life, how you just like you deal, human beings adapt, right?

Speaker 21 And you adapt to whatever reality you're in and you then figure how to get the things that you need as a human being in whatever environment you're in.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 27 It's a matter of accepting your circumstances and then going from there and how you choose to do that.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Here's a really big question for you guys. And it's possible that Adam doesn't know the answer and that Ben does, but I don't know.

Speaker 30 I saw the pilot for Lost two months before it came out and I was just crazed for the next episode. I mean, I was absolutely crazed.

Speaker 30 And it was funny because I think ABC didn't really like the show, and I went nuts over it. And they were like, huh,

Speaker 30 maybe we, maybe this is something. And so I was very involved on a week-to-week basis in the show.
We had all the cast members on.

Speaker 30 I became friends with these guys to the point where they said to me, And this was really,

Speaker 30 when I look back on it, it was a really sick thing they did to me. Because I said, Do you know what the ending is? And they said, Yeah, we know what the ending is.
And I was like, Really?

Speaker 30 You know, you're not just figuring it out as you go along. And they said, You know what we're going to do?

Speaker 30 We're going to write the ending down on a piece of paper and we will give you a manila envelope with the ending in it.

Speaker 30 And you can choose whether you want to open it or not, which is a very losty thing to do, you know?

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes, it is.

Speaker 30 And I thought about it for a while.

Speaker 4 I'm like, fuck you guys. I don't want it.

Speaker 30 Because I know I'll open it. I know, you know, I know I'll smoke a joint or something like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 30 And then I'll have this secret I have to keep for who knows how long. And I declined their offer, but it was a real offer.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 14 Wow.

Speaker 26 That's incredible.

Speaker 5 I wonder if that changed.

Speaker 24 I wonder if it was the same ending that they ended up with.

Speaker 30 It was. And they told me exactly what they would have, would have been in the envelope, you know, Jack's eyes opening, you know, the whole, as it ended.

Speaker 21 But spoiler for me.

Speaker 5 15 years later.

Speaker 4 Do you know the ending? Yes. You do.
Okay.

Speaker 21 But here's what I'll say. Exactly how we're getting there is not always completely set.
And I think that's important.

Speaker 21 It's like we know we're going, but like every little beat, to me, that's the creative process that we're figuring out as we go along. And we want that to be flexible as we're going forward.

Speaker 21 And I think that's important too, so that people know, right? I can see that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 Okay, Jimmy. So in in the spirit of your days as a DJ, let's go to callers from the hotline.

Speaker 21 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 7 Shall we play the first one?

Speaker 38 Hi, this is Eric, and I have a question about the egg episode and how it relates to other foods you may have eaten on set.

Speaker 38 Curious to know what maybe disgusting, revolting foods you've eaten on a set and if there are any plans to force actors to eat disgusting things in future episodes of Severance.

Speaker 39 Love the show. Thanks.

Speaker 26 What kind of atmosphere does Eric think we're making the show in?

Speaker 21 I don't like eggs.

Speaker 30 I was on the radio.

Speaker 30 I felt that my television career was heating up. And so I announced to the guys I worked with.
One of the guys was a vegetarian, but he didn't mind a little bacon on his food.

Speaker 30 He got an egg McMuffin and he, you know, those McDonald's, like circular pieces of bacon, they're like prefabricated bacon.

Speaker 30 He pulled it off and I picked it up and I said, if I'm still working here, and I nailed it to the wall and I said, if I'm still working here in one year, I'm going to eat this bacon.

Speaker 4 And so it hung on the wall for a year. And of course, I was still there at the end of the year.
Oh, no. And I felt I had to eat it because I said I would.

Speaker 30 And I did. I ate the bacon.
It had the consistency of like a giant fingernail.

Speaker 5 Did it make you sick?

Speaker 30 It did not make me sick. You know, I started feeling sick just because people were calling in and telling me about trichinosis and various pork-related parasites.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 30 It turns out

Speaker 30 you can do that. You can put McDonald's.
One of the great things about McDonald's food, you can put it on a show for a year.

Speaker 5 You can nail it to things.

Speaker 5 I feel like you were probably in your 20s or early 30s, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, I was in my mid-30s.

Speaker 4 Jesus.

Speaker 21 All right, let's listen to another one.

Speaker 38 Hi, this is Steve from Dallas, Texas. Would you rather be a shambolic rube or a fetid Moppet?

Speaker 21 Okay, so that's a reference to episode one and two.

Speaker 6 And do you want me to define shambolic rube and fetid Moppet, or shall we just let ourselves?

Speaker 21 I'd like to know.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 5 A shambolic rube literally means disorganized country bumpkin.

Speaker 26 A disorganized country bumpkin.

Speaker 6 A fetid moppet is a smelly child.

Speaker 28 So those are your choices.

Speaker 30 Well, all children are at least kind of smelly, right? I mean, I know mine mine are if you don't bathe them yes yeah i think i'd rather be a shambolic rube

Speaker 21 i'm not far off from that in the first place i i kind of gravitate towards shambolic rube myself okay then i'll i'll go for fetid moppet because i would get to be a child yeah well then we could do the episodes remotely so i don't smell up the place yeah um all right let's listen to another

Speaker 40 Hi and praise Kir. This is Leah H.

Speaker 39 I was just playing some Sudutu and thinking about my impending move to the town of Kier, but there's a problem.

Speaker 40 I own a 2019 Honda Accord, and I've noticed that all the cars in Kier seem to have been manufactured prior to like 1986.

Speaker 39 So I just have two questions.

Speaker 40 Why?

Speaker 40 And where can I trade in my Honda for a Kier-approved vehicle? Thank you so much. Praise Kier.
And

Speaker 40 love you guys.

Speaker 27 Thank you, Leah H.

Speaker 30 You've got people calling you and saying, praise Kier now.

Speaker 17 Actually started a religion.

Speaker 21 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 21 It's a good question. I don't know.
I mean, that's what the cars are like in the show.

Speaker 30 It's not like when you go to a national renter car and they're all kind of the same.

Speaker 21 And you're like, those were the only cars we could get for the show.

Speaker 21 We couldn't.

Speaker 21 I did have a rabbit. Cobel drives a rabbit.
My first car was a 1983 slate-gray metallic Volkswagen rabbit with a moon roof.

Speaker 30 I love that.

Speaker 28 It's a hot car, man.

Speaker 30 When I was in high school, only girls drove rabbits. Also, my parents weren't going to buy me one.
So that was the other reason they didn't have one. But

Speaker 30 it was considered to be a girls' car, but I love them. I have a Volkswagen thing that I converted to electric.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Oh, wow.

Speaker 28 Those are great.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Should we do one last one?

Speaker 4 One last one. Okay.
Let's do it. Bro,

Speaker 38 what is going on?

Speaker 13 It's a very good question.

Speaker 21 Oh, man. Well put.
I wish we knew. I wish we knew.

Speaker 4 Bro, sorry.

Speaker 4 You do know.

Speaker 30 I think I take a lot of comfort in the fact that you know.

Speaker 21 Yeah. It's great to be at this point with a show where we've had these two seasons that we've made.
And every time we've gone off and made a season, we've lived in this bubble with it for years. Yeah.

Speaker 21 And now it's out in the world and people are interacting with it.

Speaker 21 And like that is like, it's such a good feeling to have people responding in any way to it because it's like becomes a thing that's actually like alive.

Speaker 21 You know, so those questions are all but pressure, I bet, right?

Speaker 30 I mean, because then you have to think of the next one.

Speaker 21 I guess so, but I, it, of course. But I am really enjoying now that we're just like in it.
And yeah, okay, the next one will be the next one.

Speaker 30 But that's. I think what's happening there is, I think what you're saying maybe is that it is impossible for the audience to put more pressure on Ben Stiller than Ben Stiller puts on himself.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I think that's perfectly put.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 21 yeah, you know me, Jimmy. Well, you're the best, man.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 13 Yeah, thanks, man. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 30 Thank you for making such a great show and for working. So I know how hard you work on it.
And

Speaker 30 I think one of the great things about the podcast is you can hear how much people appreciate it. And we definitely do.

Speaker 7 Thanks, man.

Speaker 21 Thanks, man. All right.
See you soon.

Speaker 13 Okay, Ben.

Speaker 7 We can't end our episode without hearing from Zach Cherry. Last week, he told us that everyone was going to go see the dentist.
That didn't happen.

Speaker 5 Sorry, Zach.

Speaker 7 Better luck next time, I guess.

Speaker 21 I'm very excited to see what his clairvoyant, preternatural sense is going to tell him for next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 41 Hi, everyone.

Speaker 14 Here we are, all back together again.

Speaker 41 Ben,

Speaker 41 I'll leave some space for you. Hey.
Adam, anything you want to say to me?

Speaker 24 What's up, Zach?

Speaker 41 Amazing. Thanks so much, guys.
Thanks for the feedback. So anyway, let's get started on this week's prediction for the next episode of Severance.

Speaker 4 Next time on Severance.

Speaker 41 Cobel returned home to her childhood home and I have a feeling she's gonna want to stick around.

Speaker 41 I know, I know she's on the run, and someone is following her, but her high school reunion is coming up, and she wants to have that one last dance with the boy who got away.

Speaker 41 Some guy who we haven't met yet.

Speaker 4 That's right. Who was your person who got away?

Speaker 41 Make sure to call in and let Ben and Adam know in detail about someone you had a crush on in high school.

Speaker 41 My first crush, of course, was the main character of the 2003 film Nobody Knows Anything in which your friend and mine Ben Stiller appeared as the uncredited role of Peach Expert.

Speaker 8 Ouch.

Speaker 41 I saw that movie on my first birthday in 2019.

Speaker 21 Wait, what? Wait, what? His first birthday in 2019?

Speaker 24 That's what he said.

Speaker 21 I don't even understand what's going on with that.

Speaker 25 What's Nobody Knows Anything from 2003?

Speaker 21 It was a movie that I was in.

Speaker 19 As the Peachex. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Apparently Zach has IMDB.

Speaker 3 He has access to that website.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 All right. Thanks, Zach.
Just look,

Speaker 21 take it a little more seriously here, okay?

Speaker 28 Truly. Come on.
All right.

Speaker 24 And that's it for this episode, the Severance Podcast with Ben and Adam.

Speaker 5 We'll be back next week to talk about season two, episode nine, otherwise known as the penultimate episode.

Speaker 7 That's right.

Speaker 21 And you can stream every episode of Severance on Apple TV Plus, with new episodes coming out every Friday for two more

Speaker 4 weeks.

Speaker 24 And then make sure you're listening to our podcast, which drops right after the episode airs.

Speaker 7 The Severance podcast with Ben Stiller and Adam Scott is a presentation of Odyssey, Pineapple Street Studios, Red Hour Productions, and Great Scott Productions.

Speaker 21 If you like the show, be sure to rate and review this podcast on Apple Podcasts, the Odyssey app, or your other podcast platform of choice.

Speaker 21 Our executive producers are Barry Finkel, Henry Malofsky, Gabrielle Lewis, Jenner Weiss-Berman, and Leah Rhys-Dennis. This show is produced by Xandra Ellen, Ben Goldberg, and Naomi Scott.

Speaker 21 This episode was mixed and mastered by Chris Basil. We had additional engineering from Javi Krustas and Davey Sumner.

Speaker 23 Show clips are courtesy of fifth season. Music by Theodore Shapiro.

Speaker 7 Special thanks to the team at Odyssey: Maura Curran, Eric Donnelly, Michael LeVay, Melissa Wester, Matt Casey, Kate Rose, Kurt Courtney, and Hilary Schuff.

Speaker 21 And the team at Red Hour, John Lescher, Carolina Pesakov, Gian Pablo Antonetti, Martin Balderutin, Ashwin Ramesh, Maria Noto, John Baker, and Oliver Ager.

Speaker 7 And at Great Scott, Kevin Cotter, Josh Martin, and Christy Smith at Rise Management.

Speaker 21 We had additional production help from Kristen Torres and Melissa Slaughter. I'm Ben Stiller.

Speaker 24 And I'm Adam Scott.

Speaker 21 Thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 See you next time.