Rob Schneider: SNL Glory Days, Losing Friends Over Politics, and His Response to Daughter Elle King

2h 22m
Rob Schneider is a comedian, actor, and Emmy-nominated SNL writer who authored the upcoming book, You Can Do It!: Speak Your Mind, America, an unfiltered and outrageously funny commentary on the threats to free speech in America. Pre-order now wherever books are sold. https://bit.ly/YouCanDoItBook

(00:00) Tour Dates
(00:45) Rob Schneider Responds to His Daughter, Elle King
(15:40) The Health of America
(39:22) Rob Schneider vs. Big Pharma
(52:58) Critical Thinking
(59:58) How Did Schneider Get Into Entertainment?
(1:22:30) The Election
(1:30:56) The Glory Days of Saturday Night Live

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Speaker 3 So I hate to start with this, but

Speaker 3 I read what looked like a family tragedy playing out of the news, your daughter going after you. It's fun being a parent, isn't it? It can be hard.

Speaker 3 What was that?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 I want to just tell my daughter, Elle, Elle, I love you.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I wish I was the father in my 20s that

Speaker 3 you needed.

Speaker 3 And clearly i wasn't and i hope you can forgive me for my shortcomings i love you completely i love you entirely and i just want you to be well and happy with you and your beautiful baby lucky and um i wish you the best i

Speaker 3 i feel terrible and i i just want you to know that i don't take anything you say personally i love you and um

Speaker 3 I feel that God has gifted this moment and gifted me to be able to just tell you, I love you you, and I accept you and I apologize for any of my shortcomings that I have.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I wish for you to heal and be well and

Speaker 3 that you have everything that you want, including the dad that you want from me to be. I'm here.

Speaker 3 I'm here for you. I love you.
Whenever you need me, I'll be there. And anything that you said, I don't take personally.
And if I could take away all your pain, I would gladly do it.

Speaker 3 And if I need to take the hit for you now, I'll do it and I'll do it again gladly. My heart is your home.
And a home is a place when you go there. They have to let you in.
And I love you. And

Speaker 3 I'm sorry that you're having to deal with this.

Speaker 3 But this is a great opportunity because we can talk about families. I mean, show me a perfect family out there and

Speaker 3 I'll be shocked. But families.
This is, you have to ask, like, is God,

Speaker 3 I'm a new Catholic. God has presented this to me, and I'm going to use it.
And I'm going to say that this is when you have opportunities, like when you're being attacked or you feel

Speaker 3 like what the world is caving in on, like a lot of people feel now, whether it's financially, whether it's politically, people are separating, and especially with people that are dealing with addiction and families that are dealing with addiction.

Speaker 3 It's hard. It's really tough on the family.
And it really is crushing. And so if we're able to

Speaker 3 discuss and talk about that and help heal people and help give them the opportunity to let them know that this is common and that there are roots you can do to heal. And for

Speaker 3 people suffering and families suffering from addiction, and unfortunately it is bigger now than any time in my life. We need to

Speaker 3 have a path for healing. And part of that path is not just getting clean, But I was talking to my good friend, Dr.
Drew Pinski, and he said, We also, addiction, people have to deal with resentment.

Speaker 3 That's a really important thing.

Speaker 3 And I'm glad this has all been brought up because resentment has to be addressed and managed to help keep the person sober. For families who are dealing with addiction, it's really important.

Speaker 3 This resentment,

Speaker 3 resentful people use it

Speaker 3 as a way to justify bad behavior and any kind of behavior and not taking responsibility for their own actions, blaming others and the destructive behavior,

Speaker 3 including even using again. So it's important that we heal that, address that,

Speaker 3 so that doesn't become this destructive thing. That's part of the healing and part of really staying sober and remaining sober and

Speaker 3 getting back to a place of happiness.

Speaker 3 So when your daughter attacks you in public, how hard is it not to, you didn't make any excuses or blame her or attack back

Speaker 3 well um

Speaker 3 how hard is that

Speaker 3 if you love somebody completely you just you know i love her and all i want for her is to be happy and to heal from this and and i i really feel if there's anything that i can you know

Speaker 3 i i apologize completely for and accept responsibility for not being the parent that I am now with my new kids. She didn't get that.
And I I missed a lot.

Speaker 3 And as a parent, you're going to pay for everything you miss. And I thought that just because I was starting my career at the time and I thought, well, I'm able to provide this, this school.

Speaker 3 How old were you? I was 26. Oh.

Speaker 3 So. And got to work young.

Speaker 3 About a year later. Yeah.
And she's got a great mom, did a great job, did the best job she could. But it's hard, you know, not having a fractured home from the start is not

Speaker 3 the ideal thing.

Speaker 3 So it's difficult. And

Speaker 3 I get it. And I really feel

Speaker 3 I feel like, look, I'm here now. And whatever I can do for you, I'll be the father that you need me to be now.
And I love you. And thank God that I'm here now.

Speaker 3 And that if there's something that you need from me,

Speaker 3 my heart

Speaker 3 is open.

Speaker 3 So, and it's okay, though. You know, I feel like it's a good opportunity.
It's, it's a beautiful thing when God presents you with something, you know, when God says to you, you know,

Speaker 3 here,

Speaker 3 you know, when the enemy, when the, when people are like, when you have attacks in your life, you know, when you, when they say hand it over to God, they don't mean just hand some of it over.

Speaker 3 I mean, you got to hand it over. And when you do, you will have peace.
You will have peace. And there's nothing the world can do to you when you have God.

Speaker 3 There's nothing. They can't touch you.
My most important relationship is with God. And if that's good, they can't touch me.
There's nothing. My, my, you know, wonderful priest,

Speaker 3 you know, was

Speaker 3 talked to me about this and about like, if you got a good relationship with God, then you're set. But when you hand it over, you got to really hand it over.
Okay, can you take it?

Speaker 3 They're like, okay, God, I need your help because you'll be tested in this world. They go like, yeah, I said, because I feel I'm in a good place.
I said, oh, yeah. Well, what about if they say this?

Speaker 3 Like, I'm still okay. What if somebody in your family says this? Wait, what? They said, what? How do I know? So we all have work.

Speaker 3 Yeah. We have temptations to want to, to, to, to get angry, to strike back.
That's a real temptation for people. What's an overwhelming temptation? It is.
But, you know, our job,

Speaker 3 what we need to do as a parent is to love and accept and be tolerant and forgive. And this is the way to love.
God shows us the way to love.

Speaker 3 And our job is to reflect God's love, which is everything and tolerant and loving and to just have compassion for what people are going through, especially in your family.

Speaker 3 And to know that it's not about me, it's about the pain that they're suffering and how can we heal it. And we're seeing a lot of that.
Unfortunately, not just, you know, in my family, we're seeing

Speaker 3 we were seeing addiction and problems all over. And it's not just about, particularly with drugs.

Speaker 3 And the difference is when we were kids, if somebody had like an addiction to a particular narcotic or something, you know, unless it was heroin and maybe there's cocaine and speed and other stuff and crystal meth around the 80s, you had a chance to,

Speaker 3 you know, to get therapy and do something. We have families now who are dealing with

Speaker 3 a kind of a different kind of healing because they've lost their child. Yes.
We have these porous borders now. And we have this.
And talking about, you know, for the

Speaker 3 Democrats who want to change the voting habits of whatever and

Speaker 3 remain power in ever in every state, it's really an ugly thing because what they're really doing is they're just bringing in death and misery because the people who are coming into the border are also being abused.

Speaker 3 It needs to be a, I'm all for immigration. It has to be legal.
But what's coming in now is causing this massive wave of drugs and it's death. And I got, and it's everywhere now.

Speaker 3 It's every city in America. It's 65,000 people a year.

Speaker 3 It's like more than everyone who died in that 19 years of Vietnam or dying a year from this fentanyl I was at the airport and sometimes you meet somebody

Speaker 3 who just

Speaker 3 has

Speaker 3 so much grace that it's just, it takes your breath away. I mean, much more than I, I have

Speaker 3 or could have. This woman came up to me, said, hi, you know, I really appreciate what you've been saying.
And I said, oh, thank you.

Speaker 3 And at the airport waiting for our bags, and I was just getting a cup of coffee waiting. And this is in Phoenix, where I live now.

Speaker 3 and um we started talking a little bit and i was flattered by that so it's nice when people say something nice about you and then i said so how is your where'd you come back he said oh hawaii and i said oh it's beautiful she said yeah but it wasn't a happy occasion

Speaker 3 and i said what he said oh it was spreading my my son my 17 year old son's ashes

Speaker 3 i was like

Speaker 3 what

Speaker 3 she said he wasn't an addict he wasn't he just was a dabbler and he didn't realize what he just thought it was. He just thought it was cocaine.
And he's gone. There's no rehab.

Speaker 3 There's no getting better. There's no education.
There's no 12-step thing. You have, it's just people are dead.
They're gone. And this family is crushed.
But this woman has such grace about her.

Speaker 3 It's like,

Speaker 3 you know, thank God has to. carry people at the moments like that.

Speaker 3 That's for sure.

Speaker 3 So how did, how did you respond when you saw that you were being attacked like what was your first well the first first 24 hours well if you for you you feel hurt obviously and you you you know you check within but then what would you as soon as you get out of me and get into like well what what is you know how can we do this first of all i was like kind of stunned by it right and they're like what no warning at all no and and you know

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 3 Then you got like, well, I love you and I want you to be, and I can't get into the specifics of like what she's going through now but obviously you know that you know i want her to be to be happy and and well and and to heal

Speaker 3 and and to heal means not just um you know

Speaker 3 doing something to make yourself feel better but to really get to some of the the issues that you need to do and and look and to just like i love you And

Speaker 3 if you take yourself out of the equation and you say hand it over to God, you have to. Because if you make it about me and what this, like, you know, I have an adult child now.

Speaker 3 She's going to have to figure things out. And God bless her.
And that she's, um, she's had a tremendous success with her career. And I want her to have that, that, that peace,

Speaker 3 that peace that I've found and that, that love that I've had.

Speaker 3 And I'm grateful for this situation because maybe this is what it takes for her to heal and for whatever, for other people to know that about this and so that they can reach out and they can know that to not take it personal but go what can I do how can I love how can I heal what would God do here how could I work through this how could I use this as an introduction for her to get closer to God so maybe there's all this potential there but there's also the potential to realize that when you are attacked in the media by anything is to know this isn't you cannot take this in.

Speaker 3 And if you have, I mean, there was a beautiful thing my wife and I, Patricia, just the best thing that ever happened to me, that God gave me, was this,

Speaker 3 we never did the rosary together in bed. And we never did the rosary together ever.
So we were in bed the other, you know, the other night before I flew out here and let's do it.

Speaker 3 And we didn't, you know, even remember, no, she didn't remember exactly how to do it. And I'm a new Catholic.
So we're literally like going over each bead and doing, you know,

Speaker 3 Hail Marys and then Our Fathers. And then what's this bead for? And I will tell you, it was beautiful.
And the peace that I felt after that and the whole next day was

Speaker 3 really the power of prayer. And so as

Speaker 3 I hope, you know, I'm praying for my daughter and I hope that people will pray for her. So even in the midst of that, you found peace.
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 And not right away, but I did find, I mean, the peace is there for you. When you can, when you accept God and have God, you hand it over to him.
You got to really do it.

Speaker 3 And I said, God, I know there's a purpose here. There's got to be something.

Speaker 3 And as soon as I took it out of me and looked at my heart, my needs, my hurt, my injury, and go, this ain't about, this is, this cannot be what this is about.

Speaker 3 This has to be how to heal something and how to maybe bring this up for other people and other families that are dealing with similar things. And,

Speaker 3 you know, something good's going to come from it. It already has.
How did you get to this place? I mean, describe how you got here

Speaker 3 to facing, I mean, I got to say, probably a tougher moment than like a diagnosis of illness like having a conflict with a child is the hardest thing I would say for a parent and yet you're at peace so how did you get

Speaker 3 here well it's it's a long story it's a beautiful thing where you know where I

Speaker 3 I felt um close to to Jesus Christ when I was a young boy and then uh I strayed. But the thing about Jesus is he'll only let you go so far.

Speaker 3 And all that stuff stuff was necessary for me to learn and come back. But he was always kind of there in the back of my, in the back there, like he was never left.
And

Speaker 3 I think through

Speaker 3 getting lost

Speaker 3 into the world and getting

Speaker 3 thinking about my career and this and that and

Speaker 3 the frustrations of it.

Speaker 3 thinking too much about

Speaker 3 what

Speaker 3 other people think about you and like where your position is in show business and how much money you make and where you are. Are you on the A list? Are you off list? Are you making movies?

Speaker 3 It's just

Speaker 3 a hamster wheel. And I think the

Speaker 3 more important thing is to, and I think what our culture is suffering from now is this in this social media hamster wheel we're on and their politics and our political parties are not helping the mental health of Americans.

Speaker 3 There's today's today's understatement. Yeah.
So if we could

Speaker 3 step back and find a more peaceful way to exist and to not live in fear, and I stopped being fearful about, because once you do get attacked, like when the pharmaceutical

Speaker 3 industry attacked me for

Speaker 3 what I thought was just the basic humanity is believing parents who had injured children who who they knew were fine up until the point where they were given some doctor-recommended drug that was absolutely supposed to be safe and then their kid got permanently injured.

Speaker 3 I believe them. I choose to believe them and I still believe them because they're the best witnesses to this incident that happened and we're talking about vaccination.
And to even question it

Speaker 3 was

Speaker 3 destroying your career. It's like questioning it.
I thought we live in the freest country in the world. Well, you're allowed to talk about politics and you can be, you know, you used to be.

Speaker 3 And you can talk about things like that. You could talk about, you know, how the United States Army spent $25,000 for a toilet, which is, you know, or a hammer.

Speaker 3 But if you talk about the underpinnings of power, if you talk about the...

Speaker 3 an industry that is the real drug cartel. We're not talking about the Mexican drug cartel.
That's just a measly $10 billion a year.

Speaker 3 If you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry 300 billion dollars a year you're talking about power you're talking about an industry you're talking about the real drug cartel that pays for the the biggest donors to not just federal legislature the legislators but state legislators they not only um

Speaker 3 they not only

Speaker 3 control the medical

Speaker 3 establishment, they also control the medical boards that recommend things and that recommend

Speaker 3 what Americans are mandated to get, and children are. And then, when you open your eyes to it and you realize that

Speaker 3 something that

Speaker 3 was astounding to me that Robert Kennedy talks about, and he's one of the few who has the courage to talk about it, and thank you for letting him talk about this on your show.

Speaker 3 That 54% of American kids now suffer from chronic illnesses for diseases unheard of just a few short decades ago, and 12% of those neurological damage, the fact neurological damage.

Speaker 3 I'm talking about brain damage, including autism and all this other ADHD and all these things, which were unheard of when we were kids.

Speaker 3 So the fact that that is not the biggest story every day in the news is the fact that

Speaker 3 the media is

Speaker 3 bought. and paid for by pharma and it is.
I mean, it's upwards of 75, 80% of all ads in non-political years for all all ads on all of television, on all radio, and all internet is drug ads.

Speaker 3 And there's only two countries that allow that, the United States and New Zealand, because people realize you can't have this because it's going to make us, make people dependent and go, I want that drug.

Speaker 3 My family works in medicine, the Lapid Lapids, Filipinos. So, of course, they're in nursing and doctors in New Jersey.
And I said, why do I talk to

Speaker 3 my cousin, Renee Lapid, who's passed away now, but I said,

Speaker 3 why is the average senior senior on 12 different drugs? Why is my dad on 12 drugs? And he said, well, there's no database that keeps track of all these drugs.

Speaker 3 And if they go to get a drug that they see on TV from one doctor and the doctor says no, they just go to another doctor and they just

Speaker 3 give it. And so, and there's so much money to be made off it that

Speaker 3 we're dealing with a sick population. And that needs to be, that needs to be rectified.

Speaker 3 We need to get people healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy in this country, or we are not going to have a country. We cannot afford to pay 17.5%

Speaker 3 of our GDP on health, five times more than they pay in Europe. And we're not getting better results over here.
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Speaker 3 So what happened during you? So you attempted to talk about it. Yeah.
I think you're informed on the subject and you're sincere. You're not getting paid to talk about it.

Speaker 3 I just went to a place because they were, these parents came, you know, asked me. I just, because I was curious about, um, I'm curious, I'm a medical nerd.

Speaker 3 I'm obviously a draw college, draw junior college dropout, but I was always fascinated by it. And my cousins were kind enough to talk to me about medicine whenever I asked questions.

Speaker 3 And I was kind of a nerd about it. And

Speaker 3 when it came time for me to have a baby, you know, a dozen years ago, I wanted to know about this particular thing that was recommended as everyone said it was safe.

Speaker 3 And I just remember being with this one director whose wife was a TV doctor, one of those TV doctors. And as director, we were going to make a movie together and they just had a beautiful new baby.

Speaker 3 And I said, well, what shots did you give the baby? She said, none.

Speaker 3 And I said, what? She said, yeah, they're too small to absorb those toxins right now. They don't have an immune system.
They have an external immune system, their brothers, their mother's breast milk.

Speaker 3 Yes. And I said, well,

Speaker 3 why do you tell, why do you tell other people to get it? We said, well, that's up to them. So I never forgot that because it was

Speaker 3 up to them. Because it wasn't up to them because you had to go to school.

Speaker 3 When we went to school, it was like three shots. Now,

Speaker 3 it's staggering. It's 72 different doses.
of 16 different vaccines before the age of six. And we're wondering, why is it? And people go, I can't have anything to to do with it.

Speaker 3 I can't have anything to do with it. Are you nuts? So.

Speaker 3 By the way, I should say for the record, I think YouTube will censor this. No, no, they will.
They'll demonetize it just for having this conversation.

Speaker 3 Sorry, well, you might, you might have to put this out there with this part cut out.

Speaker 3 No, no, we'll just, we'll just bleep it. But it's, it's crazy that of all the things you can say

Speaker 3 on YouTube. I mean, you could say, you know, our government's illegitimate.
Someone should overthrow it. Or.

Speaker 3 you know, I'm in favor of transgender nuns, or you can say whatever you want, but you cannot use the V-word. No, you can't.
And it's interesting, though, because they're so powerful.

Speaker 3 I remember talking to my friend who's

Speaker 3 one of the parents' advisory group who was involved in the 1986 negotiating with the Reagan administration for the National Childhood Vaccine Act, which Congress ruled vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.

Speaker 3 And you could look that up.

Speaker 3 And so if there was going to be, if you're going to mandate something, there's never been a drug that's 100% safe 100% of the time for 100% of the people.

Speaker 3 Of course, either if you, and vaccines or drugs,

Speaker 3 either you have a choice for your own body autonomy, your own freedom of choice when there's risks, to take a risk, or if you don't have that freedom to avoid risks, then you don't have,

Speaker 3 then you have tyranny. Then you're a slave.

Speaker 3 Someone owns your body and can make you hurt yourself. And then somebody could shut down that same group can shut down the world.
And they did.

Speaker 3 So what happened when you made these points, which I think any rational person, even people who disagree with you, say, those are reasonable points.

Speaker 3 I mean, maybe I've got, you know, evidence that shows you're wrong. Here it is.
But those are not, you're not making crazy points. Well, we'll discuss.

Speaker 3 We're supposed to be the idea and what happened during COVID was the idea was like, you're supposed to discuss things in a free society and debate and then take the...

Speaker 3 take the best of those ideas. Exactly.
And let's see which ones are evidence-based. Exactly.
Use the evidence. What happened was we were taking people like Dr.
Bodhicaria and Peter McCullough.

Speaker 3 And, you know, we say, well, this this is evidence here, Dr. Corey, and well, this is evidence.
Well, yeah, but you're not allowed to use that evidence. That evidence.
No.

Speaker 3 And so instead of saying the drug companies don't want to see that evidence.

Speaker 3 Instead of adjusting the what should happen, because based on evidence, what they did was they just denounced people who brought the evidence and said, well, those people, let's demonize them, let's denounce them or whatever.

Speaker 3 And so when I first brought this up, I was like, you know, I did a commercial with Aaron Rodgers, who coincidentally, for State Farm, who coincidentally became vaccine hesitant himself.

Speaker 3 And rightfully so, realizing that

Speaker 3 a good guy he is. He's a great guy, but realizing the human immune system, this is before he knew any of this.
So he cleared himself. He had nothing.
He never talked to me about this after.

Speaker 3 But we did a commercial for State Farm. And

Speaker 3 he hasn't done any since since he's been vaccine hesitant.

Speaker 3 But the human immune system, which has been proved true, is like, you can't trust the human immune system that's been working for millions or hundreds of thousands of years.

Speaker 3 Why would you do that when you could take this drug that we just made yesterday at warp speed? You know, so it's just kind of a weird logic. So, I came out and then so I got attacked by the goons.

Speaker 3 And by that, you know, this is 10 years ago when like a few people can attack, you know, a company like State Farm and say, this is dangerous, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 And, you know, and then they could think it's a lot of people. And then they took, you know, so I got slammed in the media as this anti-vaxxer, which is a very interesting term, anti-vaxxer.

Speaker 3 You can complain about the

Speaker 3 Boeing 737 MAX airplane because it is dangerous.

Speaker 3 we did have an engine fall out a piece did fall out you can say you know what there's a problem with these these problems nobody says he's an anti-planer this guy over here he's anti-airplane we're talking about he's an airplane you don't talk bad about an airplane but if you if you question any of the 72 different doses of 16 vaccines before the age of six then you're an anti-vaxxer so anti-vaxxer that's an interesting term also like i say this in my stand-up back they said you know if a woman doesn't want to have sex with you that doesn't make her anti-dick

Speaker 3 she's just anti-your dick.

Speaker 3 She may be open to a lot of other, you know, members, but yours specifically, she doesn't, it doesn't make her anti-all. So you make

Speaker 3 it, it doesn't make her a bad person. And it doesn't make her a bad person.
Exactly. So

Speaker 3 we went from, so that, but anyway, the attack happens. And then you, when you survive an attack,

Speaker 3 that's the most interesting part because anybody can get attacked. It's like, do you cow? Do you buckle under? Or do you just go, you know,

Speaker 3 I'm still here. I've survived.
Now what?

Speaker 3 And now, and I'm one of those guys who,

Speaker 3 as a little person,

Speaker 3 and I, you know, they say on the internet, it's like five, three. I'm just five, five, by the way.
I don't know why that matters. Only my, my wife says, only men care about that stuff.

Speaker 3 You never hear a woman say, I'm five, six and a half. They never say that.
But men, you're egos. You got to I'm five, four and a half.
Who cares about the half? You know, but

Speaker 3 I'm one of those guys who's like, when you're little, you got to defend yourself. I remember fighting a super nice guy.
He's a pilot now. Bob McPeak and I got he was like 6'3.
Great guy.

Speaker 3 He lives in Florida. Love, lovely guy.
He lives at a neighbor. We're friends, but we got into a fight and I got like, okay.
As kids, as kids, we're like, you know, like, you know, junior high.

Speaker 3 And, you know, we're going to fight. And I'm looking at going like, this guy's going to clean my clock.
The only way I'm going to get out of this is if I just get him in the nose, just whack him.

Speaker 3 And I just,

Speaker 3 so just wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. And it's, you know, a lot of guys fighting, it's like this, you know, a little big guys.
They think the bigger the swing, the better.

Speaker 3 But the guys who know about fighting, especially Filipinos who changed fighting, we can talk about that.

Speaker 3 It's all in the shoulder. It's just right here.
And it's the short one that's got, you use the hip and you turn. And then, so I just, I waited and I go, pop.
And it was like, that was it. Fight over.

Speaker 3 And it's, oof, I got out of that one.

Speaker 3 So, but you have to defend yourself. And so I just like when you survive and you get a little, you go, I got to be crafty about this, but I'm not going to bow to this pressure.
And I never have.

Speaker 3 And I've never apologized or rebutted it because I'm right about it.

Speaker 3 And then, and I'm going to continue to believe these people because the health of American children is more important than my, me making deuce bigelow four, you know, so I don't, you know, whatever.

Speaker 3 But we're going to, we have to continue to fight to get Americans healthy, mentally healthy, physically healthy, and get them off these drugs and to also have awareness for all our

Speaker 3 people about how they can learn to get healthy. Because if you go off the food pyramid, you're going to be fat, obese, you're going to have diabetes.

Speaker 3 My dad had diabetes, which is what I'm concerned about, my children. And, you know,

Speaker 3 and I'm, you know, that was one of the things I was doing. So is that my daughter and cured diabetes for all time, right?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 that is a dangerous drug that we don't even understand the full implications of what that drug is going to do. And I've just heard, you know, I was just talking to Dr.

Speaker 3 Drew Pinski about that just the other night. That's a dangerous drug.
Get off that drug.

Speaker 3 There's never such a thing as

Speaker 3 an easy cheat. You can get off.
I would just tell Americans, get off sugar and things that turn into sugar, grains, and get off processed oils, seed oils, anything.

Speaker 3 It's safflower, sunflower oil, all that seed oil, you got to get rid of because it's toxic, it's rancid, and it will make you sick and it causes diseases.

Speaker 3 And if you look specifically, since the processed foods, and the only reason they put it in is so it doesn't rot on the shelf.

Speaker 3 When you have something that doesn't rot and go bad, it doesn't grow mold. If mold says, I don't want any of that, well, then don't put it in your body.

Speaker 3 And it's the seed, the palm oil, all this stuff, it's not real food. It's just to keep it on the shelf.

Speaker 3 So it doesn't rot. So all that stuff, we got to start learning.
And that's what's interesting is like, you know, the

Speaker 3 liberals are attacking.

Speaker 3 what they can attack.

Speaker 3 Like the problem with like with vaccines and the problem with is they think they could do something so that they do it and it's the same thing with like choosing a particular gas like you know we could be choosing co2 that's the problem that's what's causing the warming of the planet not the fact that we're you know there's a giant fireball that we're circling around but it's this it's the gas it's you cooking and gardening that's what's causing it and cows farting so it's it's so it's a um it's a lunacy but going to back just because you think you could do something

Speaker 3 doesn't mean you should do it. Like, you know, the

Speaker 3 scarlet fever killed more people than smallpox.

Speaker 3 And tuberculosis, but you don't see a scarlet fever. There's no scarlet fever vaccine.
And you don't see

Speaker 3 it rampant around the world. And tuberculosis, nobody takes a tuberculosis vaccine, but you don't see it rampant around.
So they're doing these other ones because they can do something.

Speaker 3 Like the measles. This is all, you can all look it up and it's in my book.
You can do it. Speak your mind, America.
That

Speaker 3 thankless, I mean, the obvious plug is that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. So because they could do something, like they put in the measles vaccine in 1961.

Speaker 3 And by that time,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 all of the deaths from measles had disappeared. They just literally, there was none by 61.

Speaker 3 And yet they put this in because what really, and you can go to the CDC to look it up, what made the difference with human health, what changed was the fact that people weren't living in squalor, toilets, sanitation.

Speaker 3 So, what happened was all the success of sanitation, which increased people's life expectancies, made people healthy, that is what saved society and cleaned up society, literally.

Speaker 3 Toilets, sanitation, clean drinking water, and nutrition. But vaccine mythology, vaccines piggybacked on the success of that.
And that's why we're dealing with this now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's interesting because the big killers, um, cholera, bubonic plague,

Speaker 3 um,

Speaker 3 are really diseases of squalor. Well, people were living in the 19th century, in the early 20th century, they were literally, they didn't have a clean water source.

Speaker 3 There literally was like animals defecating and in the same places as their water source. I mean, right? So people defecating.
And people, yeah. So it was all going.
I remember there was, you know,

Speaker 3 Anders, who's, you know, the writer of a co-writer of

Speaker 3 Marx, his father was an industrialist and he was in 1857 in Manchester, England. He was walking around and he described the people there as white ghosts.

Speaker 3 Even the common cold he knew would wipe these people out. So that is an important,

Speaker 3 you know, getting that sanitation and clean drinking water and cleaning things up is what really made it. So you sort of waved Wake.
I beg your pardon.

Speaker 3 My question,

Speaker 3 because you'd want to talk about yourself, but the effect of saying what you did about health, like what, like, did that affect your

Speaker 3 job prospects? Absolutely,

Speaker 3 yeah. I mean, I got a call from a friend of mine who's the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
I don't have a lot of those, by the way, you know, but he called me and I was in Boston and I just got off.

Speaker 3 And it was the big whole state farm affair that happened. And

Speaker 3 I just got off stage and I was kind of still shaken by the thing because I'd never been like attacked like by like every newspaper and all this stuff. And the internet was new.

Speaker 3 And, you know, I was

Speaker 3 still a working actor at the time, making movies and stuff.

Speaker 3 My friend called me and he said, listen,

Speaker 3 you're really famous. Now, you're just a nuisance right now.

Speaker 3 But if you hurt them,

Speaker 3 if you cost them money, you will never work again.

Speaker 3 And these companies will sue not just you, they'll sue these other places to make sure that you never work again.

Speaker 3 And I said,

Speaker 3 but I said, but I'm right about this. And he says, he said, somebody's got to stand up.
He said, you have, and he said this to me, you have a daughter.

Speaker 3 Is it

Speaker 3 fair that she has to do this fight too? And I was like, whoa,

Speaker 3 that took me out of my knees. That's very heavy.
It is.

Speaker 3 It was. Was this, just to clarify, was this a friend offering you constructive advice or is this someone threatening you?

Speaker 3 Or both, maybe?

Speaker 3 It was a really good friend who was giving me advice that he thought, and obviously somebody had talked to him.

Speaker 3 And, or, or he just knew enough to know that this is what's happening because that's the world that he travels in. He's a really good guy and

Speaker 3 a dear friend. And I think

Speaker 3 he was trying to just help me from what he knew could happen. Yes.
You want to continue. I like to continue my habit.

Speaker 3 I have a, I have an addiction of keeping, wanting to keep my family eating and sleeping indoors

Speaker 3 in private school and nice, you know, I have, you know, a car with the, you know, the charger in my house. I like to keep that.

Speaker 3 I like to keep having, you know, going out and eating a couple nights a week and maybe traveling once a year with the kids, you know, in the front of the plane.

Speaker 3 I have my habits that I want to continue. And,

Speaker 3 but at the same time, it says you have to be, and I would just tell other people, you have to be smart about this and, and,

Speaker 3 and questioning things and that we have to stand up because to not stand up and speak, it's dangerous to stand up and speak and it's going to cost you money.

Speaker 3 It's going to cost you money if you stand up and speak your mind. mind if you stand up but when you knowingly

Speaker 3 go along with something that that you know is false that's going to cost you more and that's something in our society we have to go by evidence we have to we have to just confront these lies we can't continue or we're going to have a nationalize and i have people that call me i have a thank you for saying that i think what everything you said was is true and important to say Thank you.

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Speaker 3 I have

Speaker 3 this young actor

Speaker 3 who's the son of a very famous Academy Award-winning

Speaker 3 actor who called me and said, I wish I could say what you say because

Speaker 3 I agree with you. I agree with everything you're saying.
I wish I could say it. And I said,

Speaker 3 I said, I want to say it sometimes. And I said, you know, be careful.

Speaker 3 He said, you have to be judicious about it. He says, he said, I'm worried about losing work.
And here's the thing, because the

Speaker 3 I forget which one. There was a survey that was done by

Speaker 3 my great friend, Andrew Doyle, talks about it in his book.

Speaker 3 A survey done by the, I forget the group, but they said two-thirds of Americans are afraid to speak their mind, two-thirds, because they might cause offense.

Speaker 3 And another third are worried that it might affect their job opportunities. So, this is a real thing.
We can't continue as a society if everybody's so afraid.

Speaker 3 That was what Alexander de Tocqueville admired most about America when he came here,

Speaker 3 was the Frenchman seeing like people speak their mind here. That is a unique thing.
That is, you mean the idea of freedom of speech is there's not an accident that that was put first before guns.

Speaker 3 They know that you want to really protect society, and your best weapon against against tyranny is to be able to speak your mind, to be able to speak freely without reproach and recrimination from your government.

Speaker 3 That isn't to say there are not consequences for it, but the consequences of not speaking are going to be much, much higher. So this young person was telling me, you know, I want to speak my mind and

Speaker 3 I want to talk about it, but I'm afraid about losing work. And I said, I said, just be judicious.

Speaker 3 Talk about it in your life, but it will affect your work if you do. Yeah.
Some people, people need to stand up, but I say. Did it affect yours? Absolutely.
100

Speaker 3 um so your friend was right my friend was right he was right but i i want to say that you with the to that young actor i said look you can talk to the makeup person you could talk to the driver yeah they'll always agree with you i've noticed through long experience people who work for a living they know this is all bullshit yes talk to your driver talk to your uber driver talk to the makeup person talk to the boom man between shots exactly but don't talk to the producer don't talk to the director don't talk to the studio executive because they're all captured they're stuck in an ideological,

Speaker 3 you know, woke

Speaker 3 mind virus and they're not going to get out of it because it could affect their work because they don't operate like an actor operates. I just want to get hired.
I just want to get work.

Speaker 3 And every actor just wants to get hired. But they operate from a different perspective.
The executives at studios in Hollywood, they offer, they know they're going to get fired. They know it.

Speaker 3 It's just a matter of time. But they operate, not what's the best movie.
What can I do that is meaningful to me? They don't operate that way. When they make decisions to make projects,

Speaker 3 they operate like, what will delay my inevitable firing the longest? How do I keep this beach house? How do I keep traveling on weekends?

Speaker 3 How do I keep dating these beautiful girls who are only dating me because I'm an executive? So that's the

Speaker 3 crux of it. That is so.

Speaker 3 I hope people watching this know how true what you just said is. It's so true.
And it's not just the entertainment. I'm sure it's everywhere.
People are like, they're just worried.

Speaker 3 I got to ride this out as long as I can. But yeah, it did affect me, but it freed me.
And you know what that's like. It does, it liberates you.

Speaker 3 When you no longer feel a slave to the system, when they don't own you, you are free. I mean, you're going to have to figure out how to make a living elsewhere.

Speaker 3 But like, I said to myself, and that's why like

Speaker 3 I love Chris Rock. Chris Rock was, was like, sometimes you have a friend who like,

Speaker 3 and we did grown-ups together. We were together every day.
And I just watched him in his mind. And he's a, he changed stand-up.
comedy. And he's the one who talked me into doing stand-up again.

Speaker 3 Cause Adam Sandler, he loves me. And he wants, and I listen to what he says, but he wasn't doing stand-up at that time, but Chris Rock was, and he was the best at it.

Speaker 3 He changed modern stand-up to what it is now. He was a real influence on the, you know, that we built on.
And

Speaker 3 he talked me into doing it again. And I was like, wow, that changed me.
And I said, they can take away the movies. They can take away doing a TV show, but they can't stop me.

Speaker 3 I always said this to myself.

Speaker 3 They can't stop me from performing with a bunch of other malcontents in a darkened drinking establishment, you know, where they want to come see, but they can't take that away.

Speaker 3 And you know what, Tucker? They did. They did take it away.
In COVID, they took it away. I didn't even perform.
And then they said, you know, you can perform.

Speaker 3 And I would go to every state that was still open. I did 14 shows for whatever capacity that they would do during COVID in the one place that was open in Nashville.

Speaker 3 at that time because they said 50% capacity. So I'll just keep doing shows as long as people come.
And I did 14. I have the record for shows there, for half sold out shows.

Speaker 3 I sold out every show with the half capacity. And so people didn't want to come anymore.
I did four days. I stayed for a week.
I could have stayed longer. A week was long enough.

Speaker 3 I don't mean to sound like Trump. It was the greatest show.
I could have stayed for three years. It was the greatest show.
It was an amazing show. And the shows were disasters.

Speaker 3 But what was really interesting was people,

Speaker 3 especially for conservatives, they felt like, well, here's a guy who agrees with me. And I don't see it on TV.
I don't hear that. I don't hear other comedians.
It's like, because it's a fearful thing.

Speaker 3 You know what? You're not going to get on TV. You don't see me on late night TV.
You don't see me going on Colbert talking about any of this stuff, you know? And that's okay.

Speaker 3 But so people has created an audience for me. I didn't have one show that wasn't sold out last year.

Speaker 3 Maybe Roanoke. I don't know what happened there.

Speaker 3 But anyway, it's a tough town. It's a tough town.
I got to tell you, I don't know what's happening that weekend. Maybe it was a festival or something.

Speaker 3 But people want to hear another opposing point of view. They want to hear something they can relate to.
It's like, thank you. I did this thing about, you know, you talked about United Airlines hiring,

Speaker 3 hiring, you know, we don't want these white pilots. Yeah.
I don't want white. I don't care what it is.
I just want, I want somebody who's the highest likelihood

Speaker 3 of us landing this thing. This is a, we're in it, we're in a tin can at 37,000 feet.
I want the guy.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry if this, if your ideological, um, your ideological problems or your, what your ideological vision is, but mine is landing safely. And so I did a thing about that.
And, um,

Speaker 3 and you know i cannot fly without a pilot coming out saying thank you thank you you know

Speaker 3 so it's um

Speaker 3 so but there's an audience for it and they want to hear it

Speaker 3 and so it's a pleasure uh so you you felt no bitterness

Speaker 3 yeah i did i definitely felt like man

Speaker 3 that was rough did you ever

Speaker 3 did you take your friend's advice seriously when he gave it to you

Speaker 3 yeah no i i realized that like

Speaker 3 if I'm going to continue to

Speaker 3 continue to make a living in this business, I'm going to have to

Speaker 3 be very judicious about it and be careful and take care of my family. Because also, because my wife didn't understand.
My wife didn't understand.

Speaker 3 It's like, you know, my wife's from Mexico, which is tougher than the United States.

Speaker 3 You know, and that made hardworking people, thank God for Mexicans.

Speaker 3 You want to come, you want to, people that want to work and they'll work hard and, and you want, and I want, you know, legal immigration. These people are lovely, hardworking people.
And

Speaker 3 she didn't understand. It's like,

Speaker 3 why would you want to risk things for this? And the most beautiful thing, and I talked to Robert Kennedy about this. And my wife, when she said to me,

Speaker 3 she came to me, I was literally in the bathtub.

Speaker 3 And she came to me, she said, I didn't understand

Speaker 3 why you would do this, why you would risk your career and income

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 our family by speaking up about this issue.

Speaker 3 Because I always thought, as long as you protect them inside the house, they're protected. And then

Speaker 3 we got this and then let the world take care of itself.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 now I realize you have to also protect the kids outside the home. And she sees the encroachment.

Speaker 3 of this this woke mind virus and the fact that, you know, all of a sudden there's a real attack on women in our society society that i didn't nobody saw that coming

Speaker 3 and for her to recognize that and i mean it was really a

Speaker 3 really beautiful special

Speaker 3 thing that i experienced and um bobby kennedy related to that do you think that she was proud of you your wife

Speaker 3 Not before that.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, so she comes to you and says, which I think is pretty common.

Speaker 3 She says, look, I get you've got these opinions, but you also have a family to feed. What are you doing? Yeah.
And you explain to her that there's something bigger at stake.

Speaker 3 But what is that?

Speaker 3 How can you think about what? I mean, there's a beautiful expression, and we all have to be careful about this too. And it's a Mexican expression.
And

Speaker 3 I've been doing Duolingo for like, you have a Duolingo for two years. And I still, I'm just, I'm just nervous about learning.
I've always had that. But

Speaker 3 that's my excuse. There's a beautiful expression in Mexico, which is the light of the world is the darkness of the house.

Speaker 3 So be careful about how about just going out there and trying to heal the world and do all these things. And then your house is dark.
You have to take care of the house first. That's right.

Speaker 3 I strongly agree with that. And you have to make sure everything's okay in there and that you're protecting and taking care of your kids and that they know that they're loved.

Speaker 3 They know who their father is and that they feel safe and that they feel loved, and that they're embraced, and they're being raised

Speaker 3 with a faith in God, and that they know their country is a good country,

Speaker 3 and that they know that

Speaker 3 their future is secure. And

Speaker 3 that's something that's tougher, and it's encroaching on every aspect of it. And so,

Speaker 3 you know, while I've been blessed and that people, you know, find what I have to say, some of them, interesting and hopefully funny.

Speaker 3 I've been able to continue to take care of my family.

Speaker 3 But, and to give the kids, you know, all my children, the best education I can get.

Speaker 3 And I went to public school and I didn't think there was anything wrong with it because I didn't have anything to compare it to.

Speaker 3 But I will say that like, and you could put your kids, if you're lucky enough to have the opportunity, to put your kids to the best schools you can.

Speaker 3 But the majority of our country is being educated in public school. And we have to.

Speaker 3 We have to make sure that that education for the majority of these people is good and that they're learning something that's useful and they're being taught to be critical thinkers, to be thought, to be useful

Speaker 3 for themselves and for society, that they can come up and make decisions and not just crank out what's happening now at the university level and academia, which is just, they're just not cranking out, they're not making or helping people think critically, these young people.

Speaker 3 They're cranking out advocates for a particular partisan ideology. And that's it.
And so this has been going on for a long time. We're late to the party to try to fix this.

Speaker 3 The ideology, which James Lindsay talks about, has been infiltrated into our society. And

Speaker 3 they knew, the Marxists knew that, oh, well, the revolution is not going to happen with the worker. Like, ah, well, why? Because capitalism works.

Speaker 3 If you work your ass off of the people here, they work their ass off. Your life's going to get better.
The workers actually hate revolution more than anything.

Speaker 3 Notice. It interrupts their lifestyle.
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Speaker 3 But so they did it through education. They did it through people who had grievances.
They did it through small angry groups. And they,

Speaker 3 as you know, they got into the educational system and they infiltrated it. And by the 1970s, let's get K through 12 and then let's move on through to the university and academia.

Speaker 3 And by the late 1970s, they have infiltrated it. And so you have this ideology now and this, whether you want to call it Marxist or

Speaker 3 this woke terminology, which is just Trojan horse terms like social justice. Who would be against social justice? I'm for social justice.

Speaker 3 But when you realize that's a Trojan horse term and you go in and it's not social justice, it's racism. It's just the same crap the progressives were doing 100 years ago inversed.
Exactly.

Speaker 3 So you have like these same progressives who are like 120 years ago, the eugenics

Speaker 3 talking about these people are inferior. We shouldn't, you know.
We got to kill them. Yeah, we got to kill them.
We got to not let them breed.

Speaker 3 And then you realize, like, well, these are inferior people.

Speaker 3 These people of color are inferior. And these people,

Speaker 3 you know, this is 90, you know, this is eugenics, you know, science back 110 years ago. And

Speaker 3 this, you know, but with the Nazi Germany, you saw what the apex of eugenics was, was mass murder.

Speaker 3 The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of children and sick adults in hospitals. Hundreds of thousands, I think 300, over 300,000.

Speaker 3 By the way, that's the one crime. You know, we spend a lot of time talking about the crimes of the Nazis, which is fine.
But that's the one crime no one mentions

Speaker 3 anymore. As a matter of fact, they're for it.
That's why.

Speaker 3 Well, it's what you're having now is the same racism, but it's inverse. You're taking these people and they're like, well,

Speaker 3 these people are automatically victims just because of the color of their skin. These are their victims now, and they're oppressed by these people.

Speaker 3 So it's just an it's just a, it's easy to see what it really is.

Speaker 3 It's just another way to just attack and use the same Marxist, Maoist thing where these are the people are the goods, these are the bads. Exactly.
We're going to have utopia.

Speaker 3 It's probably just these people aren't, they're the ones stopping it. And all you have to do is give up your guns and your rights.
And then we're going to have it.

Speaker 3 And then, well, what's why don't we have all those people? Well, let's get those people.

Speaker 3 And so it's, it's, you know, James Lindsay really helped educate me and a lot of others in his new discourses about what this really is.

Speaker 3 And it's important for people to get educated and to people to realize so that they can identify it in their life, in their daily life at work. Don't apologize.

Speaker 3 If people want, if you're saying something, don't apologize for it. No apologies.
I don't apologize for my jokes, no matter what. These are jokes, people.
Get over it.

Speaker 3 It's funny, like in a horror film, you have like a slasher and they go,

Speaker 3 some slasher movie. Nobody comes out after horror films.

Speaker 3 I did not approve of those slashings and those murders. This is horrible.
No, nobody ever complains about a stand-up, a guy talking. And they go, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 3 That's, you know, homophobic, transphobic, and that's, you know, sexy, you know.

Speaker 3 So it's a, you're held to a different standard. I don't understand why.

Speaker 3 So I'm not a very good interviewer. Sometimes you said a minute ago that you were a Christian as a young man.
Yeah. Then you go into the entertainment.

Speaker 3 How old were you when you went into the entertainment business?

Speaker 3 Gosh, I was just trying to avoid a normal job, you know, because I didn't like them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the most fun thing ever was telling jokes with your friends.

Speaker 3 And then I saw

Speaker 3 when I was 11, my dad took me to see George Carlin. By the way, remember when we were kids, parents, they'd watch whatever you want.
They didn't say they took you to the movies.

Speaker 3 It was too expensive to get a babysitter. So my parents took me to see Planet of the Apes when I was five, you know, 2001, A Space Odyssey.
They didn't ask you, was that okay? Was that too much?

Speaker 3 You know, now

Speaker 3 my wife's like, it's not PG-13. They're not saying it's PG-13.
You're not going to watch any of your movies. My wife still has never let me see any movie.

Speaker 3 They've never let my kids see any movie I've ever made except Daddy Daughter Trip.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 so, but so that was, you know, how I wait, your wife doesn't watch your kids,

Speaker 3 see, see your movies. Well, she wants to see Deuce Bigelow.
It's a man whore or like the hot chick. They'll see it when they're 13.
So

Speaker 3 you go into the entertainment business.

Speaker 3 And so I got into it. I saw George Carlin.
It was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. And then when I was 14, I saw, or 15, I saw Steve Martin perform in front of 2,000 people.

Speaker 3 And back then, I was starting to put it together. Like, because, you know, TV and movies, they're not real.
It's like those are people aren't real. You know? It's like that guy, it's not real.

Speaker 3 He's a movie star.

Speaker 3 They don't realize, you know, he doesn't go to the bathroom. That guy.

Speaker 3 And so when I saw Steve Martin in person, who just who also changed comedy, he's the first guy to do stadiums, this guy. And it was so funny.

Speaker 3 And I was laughing, but I saw him as a human being in the same room as me. And I said, well, he did it.

Speaker 3 He figured it out. He was able to figure out how to be a performer.
Maybe I could. And that was it.

Speaker 3 And I started, then I told my dad, who, my dad, Marvin, who was a lovely man who loved comedy, and he had comedy albums. So I grew up with that.

Speaker 3 And I said, Dad, you know, on Monday nights, they let anybody go up and perform at this one club. And he'd go, what is it? He said, that's the Holy City Zoo in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 They let anybody go up on Mondays. I said, it's Monday.
He said, let's go.

Speaker 3 So I went. He took me that night.
And that was it.

Speaker 3 And you performed? Yeah, it was really awkward. It's like seeing those, you know, drunk people in the dark bars that were still smoking heavily at the time.
They don't want to see a kid up on stage.

Speaker 3 It's like, eh, reminding them of what they're ignoring at home. In front of your dad? Yeah.

Speaker 3 That tastes brass. He was great.
You're great. You're funny.
You guys are great. You're terrific.
You're funny.

Speaker 3 Where was he from? He was from San Francisco. His parents were East European Jews

Speaker 3 from his grandfather was from Tarnopole. I mean, his father was from Tarnopole, who came over.
And it's one of those things when they came over,

Speaker 3 they thought they'd save money somehow if they lie about the age. So

Speaker 3 they put the different age there.

Speaker 3 Save money by lying about their age. He's only, you know,

Speaker 3 he's 15.

Speaker 3 But he's eight. He's not nine.
He's eight. I don't know why they did.

Speaker 3 So he found out when he's older, he said, I'm really a year older. What happened?

Speaker 3 And then my grandmother, Molly, Molly Hoffman, she came from

Speaker 3 Ukraine. And they came over and they worked.
They worked hard. He had, my grandfather had a

Speaker 3 barbershop on right next to the Fox Theater on 7th Street,

Speaker 3 on Market Street in San Francisco, 7th Street and Market. And he had a little barbershop and he cut hair.

Speaker 3 And my dad would shine shoes during World War II. And

Speaker 3 he would get a nickel, dime, you know, and, and it was a great place to grow up. They would give him, he told me he, uh,

Speaker 3 they give him like literally like a quarter and he'd be able to take that. Um,

Speaker 3 um, you know, and I think

Speaker 3 I'm wrong about it. He, they gave him like, it was like a dollar and he was able to spend the whole day and go to the world fair on a dollar by himself.

Speaker 3 And that's his 1939 World Fair in San Francisco. So he was eight.
just walking around by himself, like not a care in the world. What did he do in later life?

Speaker 3 He went into real estate and carved out a little

Speaker 3 loan business where for people, remember for people complaining about the price of the interest rates for homes and banks now, in 1980, in the early days, it was 18%. Yeah.
I mean, it was, you know,

Speaker 3 thanks to the Carter administration, they were able to jack it up.

Speaker 3 And so he would, he would. get figure out a way with some investors to help get people to loan them money for a loan on their home or to help be their first

Speaker 3 private banking. Yeah.
And he was, he, you know, he, he did that. And he was also

Speaker 3 just a really good guy who realized after the Brown versus Board of Education, 1954, that, you know, this racism stuff is, you know, it's stupid, it's wrong.

Speaker 3 And so he was one of the first realtors in San Francisco to rent to African Americans in places that weren't, that

Speaker 3 wasn't. And so that wasn't easy for him.
And so, I mean, it was with that. My mother was a school teacher.
And I think it did.

Speaker 3 My mother was a war survivor in World War II.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I think that was a good. Where was she in World War II? In the Philippines.

Speaker 3 Her father was an American soldier that she never met until she accidentally met him in San Francisco. But she, her, both her brothers were killed during the World War.
By the Japanese.

Speaker 3 By the Japanese. And but she had no bitterness about it.
And she really was a strong person. And I didn't really, you know, still coming to grips with what that, what my upbringing was with her.

Speaker 3 And I respect her tremendously. And she just said she was never fearful.
The reason I survived, I was never afraid. I knew I was going to survive.

Speaker 3 And so she literally, her mother would make bed sheets,

Speaker 3 take bed sheets and sew them. Because, you know, the thing about America, it's this is unique.
experiment in freedom in the history of the world.

Speaker 3 That's why it's so important that we need to keep freedom of speech and keep keep our freedom because there's no one that's going to come and rescue us if anything happens.

Speaker 3 And so she would make with her mother, they would make these

Speaker 3 pajamas out of these soft bed sheets that they'd had, and they would trade them because the case system, which is a lot of the world, if you're, you know, my mother used to say, even maids have maids in the Philippines.

Speaker 3 There's a descending, cascading poverty level that just keeps going down and down. So she would trade these with the people, the farmers, who suddenly had the most valuable thing, food.

Speaker 3 So she would walk for hours, you know, a day to get up to where they were and get this camote, which was sweet potato. She would trade for that.

Speaker 3 And she'd have to be really, really nice to these, you know, the people. And they knew that things have changed.
And

Speaker 3 that's how she survived. And she said

Speaker 3 not everybody did.

Speaker 3 Her brother's 17

Speaker 3 bill was drafted by Roosevelt under an agreement that

Speaker 3 you could be in the U.S. Army if you're Filipino.

Speaker 3 You could be drafted and be U.S., go in the U.S. Army.
So he did at 17. He was in the Bataan death march and he survived it and then died of dysentery in there at 17.
Damn.

Speaker 3 And her brother also died at 15. He said he refused to believe that

Speaker 3 his brother had died. He said, he's got to be with the gorillas.
I'm going to go get him. And my mother said, don't, don't.

Speaker 3 She stayed up all night with him trying to talk her brother John into not going.

Speaker 3 And she wasn't successful in the morning. He said, here's, she gave him a, he gave her 100 pesos.
Hang on to this. I'm going to come back.
And he never did. And then it wasn't until my mother's like

Speaker 3 60th high school, anniversary, high school reunion, where there's only a few people that have survived, where she found out why the Japanese captured him and interrogated him and killed him.

Speaker 3 It's because he was.

Speaker 3 And she didn't realize that, but one of her classmates did, because he was wearing, her brother was wearing their brother's u.s army boots so that the japanese thought well he must know something and they killed him they killed him well what happened is at that time there the the there was the form of information was rumor and innuendo so the rumor got back that the japanese have him and what the japanese um

Speaker 3 said was you know come and get your son vict my grandmother victoria but my grandmother victoria knew from what other happened to other families if you go The Japanese will torture you in front of him to make him talk and then they'll just kill you both.

Speaker 3 So she had to make her Filipino Sophie's choice. And she had, you know, three daughters.
She was going to, so she stayed and they killed him.

Speaker 3 But my mother didn't have a bitterness towards the Japanese. Didn't ever, I never heard one hateful thing my mother ever said it was war.

Speaker 3 So, and one of her, her brother-in-law was half Japanese who helped one of the reasons they survived. So

Speaker 3 that's just another. What was she like as a mother? She was tough.
Yeah, I bet. She was tough.
She would, you know, not your average Bay Area mom.

Speaker 3 Well, there was a lot of Filipinos. That was the beautiful thing about because on my birth certificate, it says

Speaker 3 father, white, mother, oriental. Back then, that's just what in 1963, that's what you were called.
If you're Asian, you're not Asian, you're Oriental. I think Asian was like a, you know, a slur.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm not Asian, I'm Oriental. What are you talking about? It just means Eastern.
So, my dad, yeah, my dad was open to

Speaker 3 this, and it was beautiful. He was very open-minded, a traditional liberal, you know,

Speaker 3 which is the best, you know, free speech. Don't judge people by the color of their skin, women's rights, gay rights, that traditional liberalism, which has been abused to me and other stuff now.

Speaker 3 But it was, so she was tough. If you wasted food, that was a problem.

Speaker 3 My dad had to tell her,

Speaker 3 we've got to throw this food out. He's like, what are you talking about? It's still good.
He said, but there's mold on it. Yeah, but we can cut the mold off.

Speaker 3 She said, no, what we we do is we'll just buy, we'll throw that away and just buy new stuff of that. And that was just like,

Speaker 3 I mean, it was for my mother. That was a bizarre concept.
Throwing food away that you could still eat.

Speaker 3 She told me, like, she said, they took the kamote and they would mix it and mix it until it was basically water just to stretch it out. So she had something.
She starved during the war.

Speaker 3 And she had stomach problems her whole life.

Speaker 3 She lived almost 93. And she said, and then they would take the skin of the kamote and we'd burn that.
My mother would burn it. And that would be our coffee because it looked like coffee.

Speaker 3 I was like, wow.

Speaker 3 But she didn't say with bitterness, it looked like coffee. Let's have some coffee.
All right.

Speaker 3 So it's like, you know, so growing up with that, I didn't truly understand it. And

Speaker 3 because what happens, I think, and

Speaker 3 now that I understand with like what I learned from great people like M. Scott Peck and

Speaker 3 Dr. Gabor Mate was that there's traditional, I mean, I'm sorry, generational trauma.
Because I worked with, you know, Gabor Mate worked with me in a couple of sessions and

Speaker 3 talked to me about

Speaker 3 generational trauma. I said, what is that? I didn't go through the war.
I know it's not my problem. He said, yes, but it's passed on to you.

Speaker 3 Because he was,

Speaker 3 you know, in his mother's womb during, in Hungary, during World War II. And he said, your mother, you know, she suffered.
It must have passed on to you. And

Speaker 3 I said, no, I don't.

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Speaker 3 Do you bring anything with you? And I went,

Speaker 3 food.

Speaker 3 You bring food with you? Everywhere I go. I got a bag.
I got some food in there. He said, where do you think you got that from? I was like,

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Speaker 3 I think my siblings got it worse than me.

Speaker 3 Definitely. Because I was the youngest.
They bring food with them, too.

Speaker 3 You know what?

Speaker 3 I don't want to ask him about that. I should.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 I just remember being a really young boy. My mother, my dad, he took her places, you know, and it was nice.
They would travel together and they would go out to dinner.

Speaker 3 And I remember my mom yelling, all right, we're going out. Anybody touch a hair on Robbie? I murder all of you.
And I was like, tough for the other kids, but I'm Robbie. So

Speaker 3 I think it helped create a monster. Was she a Christian?

Speaker 3 She was Catholic, but then she got divorced. And she met my

Speaker 3 father, who was Jewish. And they both didn't,

Speaker 3 I think they both made a decision about, I mean, she survived the Japanese. She could survive

Speaker 3 not being accepted by the Catholic Church. And I tried to get my priest, Father Paso, who's a great guy, to speak with her towards the end of her life.
And

Speaker 3 she just

Speaker 3 declined. And I wanted her to really make peace.
And I think in a lot of ways she did. And

Speaker 3 as time goes by,

Speaker 3 I realized, look what my sister told me, sister April, who's a lovely, lovely girl who had it worse than me. She was older.

Speaker 3 And her parents divorced my mother's first husband. And

Speaker 3 she said you realize we were raised by a 12-year-old girl right

Speaker 3 because that's when that trauma happened and that's what like dr gabor talked about with me said that time of trauma is where they revert back to and that's

Speaker 3 and it just all made sense so i get it so how did you if your parents weren't believers how did you become a christian i found it i've just it was a uh

Speaker 3 i found some really happy content people and i go what's going on with these people?

Speaker 3 They were not in the entertainment business. I'm betting.
They were not. And I was married, I was in junior high.
And I go, what's with these people? And

Speaker 3 my friend's brother, Ed Marcus's brother,

Speaker 3 he was a very conflicted kid and had some problems and

Speaker 3 was experimenting with different things. And

Speaker 3 then he just was suddenly the most peaceful guy to be around.

Speaker 3 I go, what's happening with this guy? He said, I said, what's happening with you? He said, well, come find out.

Speaker 3 And I went to this place and everybody in there was like, hey, hey,

Speaker 3 so nice to have you. Welcome.
This is our house. This is your house.
It was like, wow. And that's a beautiful thing that Mexicans say when you go to their house.
They go like, estu casa también.

Speaker 3 This is your house as well. Yes.
What a beautiful thing to say to people. And I went in and I was just really moved by

Speaker 3 how welcoming this was. And this didn't feel like what I was in, you know.

Speaker 3 my house you know how people like anytime somebody called my mom and answer call what is robbie there why well I go to school with him. So, well, I just want to talk to him.
Why?

Speaker 3 Well, because he's my friend and I want to check,

Speaker 3 you know. So, I grew up with that.
You know, my mom, she, the world was a dangerous place for her. Where are you going? Don't go outside.
It's dangerous.

Speaker 3 Because for her, she grew up, that was a dangerous place.

Speaker 3 So, you know, you have to have a balance with that.

Speaker 3 But you wind up in a classmate's church and it seems like a place of refuge.

Speaker 3 A place of peace. I was like, What is this?

Speaker 3 And I'm like,

Speaker 3 and then you, and then, you know, when you spend time reading the Bible, when you spend time

Speaker 3 with other Christians, you feel the presence of Christ. You just do.
When I, you know, when I was doing the Rosary with, and I,

Speaker 3 I have no problem with, with, with any other religions. If you believe in Christ, you're my brother.
And if you're not, you're my brother too. You know, those who are not against us are with us.
And

Speaker 3 those who are against us are potentially with us too. We just have to be there.

Speaker 3 You feel the presence of God, and that is a powerful thing. And it's moving and it's healing.

Speaker 3 And so while I strayed, you know, there's always in the back of my mind to go like, you know, I'm never going to go away. There's that, you know, Jesus gone.
I'm never going to go away.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 when you need me most,

Speaker 3 I'll be there.

Speaker 3 And so it's times like this, though. It's just like, wow, it's beautiful.
And I hope I can,

Speaker 3 you know, I'm just very grateful and lucky and fortunate. And, you know, I feel so close to with my family, so gifted by everything.

Speaker 3 And all the problems that you have are just, you got to interpret it like this is a potential to bring you closer to God and to help people and to bring you closer to.

Speaker 3 to where you need to be. This is all opportunities.

Speaker 3 And so I think as people are going to get really angry when the election happens, whoever wins, and I would just tell people, like, it's not, and Robert Kennedy talks about this too, it's not the end of our republic.

Speaker 3 It's not the end of democracy. It's,

Speaker 3 it's going to be more encroachments. If the Democrats win, I believe there will be more encroachments on freedom, but it's not the end.

Speaker 3 We still have the, you know, this tried and true legislative, executive, judicial.

Speaker 3 And even though the legislative still continues to abdicate their power to the executive, which, you know, it's not supposed to happen where the, you know,

Speaker 3 Biden comes in, he does 125 executive orders. He's ruining, it's, we're basically hiring an emperor, but still get involved at the state level, get involved with your school board.

Speaker 3 And I would say one of the biggest dangers of an oncoming, of an incoming continuation of the Democratic Party, and I'm not to say that the Republicans haven't done their abuse and like, you know, the lies that the Bush administration, the wars they caused, but the problem is if the Democrats get back in, I'm worried about the educational system.

Speaker 3 And as

Speaker 3 Moms for Liberty, that talk about this, is giving more money

Speaker 3 from the feds to our school boards and the state to control what happens at the state level and our local school boards.

Speaker 3 So the school board meetings will mean nothing because it doesn't all be, the feds will, they're funding most of it, 26% they want to go to. I think it's 13 now.

Speaker 3 If they do that and then control, then we're really talking about another

Speaker 3 problem with indoctrination of children.

Speaker 3 And that's going to be a real, i mean that that's one thing we should really really be aware about and be act locally get involved what do you what will you say to people whose candidate loses in november calm no violence no violence and and and know that it's going to be two years hold your hold the reins if you no matter who wins hold the reins it's going to be two years of what damage they can do and then they're going to be a lame duck for the next two years and just hold the reins and i'm saying don't give in to violence don't be and unfortunately, our social media is creating and exploiting and making money off of

Speaker 3 turning people as extreme as they can so they can increase their addictions. And these addictions that we started with, these are addictions to social media.

Speaker 3 And that's something we got to control, get a handle on. And I would just tell people like anything new that's coming into the world, like whether it's airplanes, okay, well, it's first invented

Speaker 3 in 1903 by the Wright brothers. Supposedly, the Russians and French say otherwise.
However, 15 years later, if this new invention, 15 years later, they were using it to drop bombs at and kill people.

Speaker 3 Yes. And then it took another 20 years for it to become aviation,

Speaker 3 where people can actually get to places by the early 1930s.

Speaker 3 So right now, social media is just at the time where it's just dropping bombs, killing people, destroying people, and canceling people and that stuff. So we'll have to give it time.

Speaker 3 And just for schools,

Speaker 3 can you imagine if you and I took our television set to school in the morning and our newspaper and our daddy's dirty porn magazines, imagine that I found underneath the stairs, by the way.

Speaker 3 You know, I noticed that we didn't have the same money for makeup as Playboy. But anyway, my point is, can you imagine bringing all that? That's what you allow when you have phones in schools now.

Speaker 3 So this is a real problem we have to get a handle on.

Speaker 3 And like, you know, when you get bullied or whatever, or people would say bad things about you, or you farted in the middle of the class and it was humiliating. Well,

Speaker 3 at least when you went home, it was like, oh, it stops. It turns off.
I got an hour.

Speaker 3 Now it never stops. They got the phone and they got people saying stuff about you and this and how many likes you have.
So like no phones. I mean, just a flip phone, no social media till 16

Speaker 3 minimum.

Speaker 3 So, you know, calm down, but say no violence. Don't give into it.
And just know that you can't act. And this is a country.
It's a republic.

Speaker 3 We're not, it's not this parliamentary system in Europe, which is, and whereas these unelected people, the European Commission, now are controlling what happens in other countries.

Speaker 3 And, you know, thankfully, Hungary is still holding firm.

Speaker 3 And it really is under threat. Right now, we have free speech.

Speaker 3 There's the free speech in England is under attack. Yeah, I would say.
And comedians are under attack now. So that's a, you know, Jay, we talk about in the book,

Speaker 3 You Can Do It, the

Speaker 3 comedians under attack. And now they have this

Speaker 3 hate laws. And free speech has to be

Speaker 3 open to protect the,

Speaker 3 it's not the safe stuff or stuff everybody agrees with that needs to be protected. You know, appropriate or approved speech is not the stuff that needs protecting.
It's the unapproved stuff.

Speaker 3 And you have to have all of it to have friction in society to have the best ideas arise.

Speaker 3 You know, and let them, like the ACLU, when it used to be a decent organization that used to protect rights, you know, they've defended

Speaker 3 the Nazis' right in Skokie, Illinois to march, not because they agreed with the Nazis,

Speaker 3 but because the Jewish guy who was in charge of ACLU at the time said the best way to defeat the Nazis is to let them speak. Of course.
So

Speaker 3 they went to the Supreme Court and then to fight

Speaker 3 for their right to speak. Well, that's how a self-confident country behaves, a country that believes in its own values, in its founding documents.

Speaker 3 They're happy to tolerate disagreement because they know that they're right. And that if people are given the freedom to choose, they'll choose them.

Speaker 3 And I feel like censorship suggests the people in charge know how hated they are and how stupid their ideas are. And that's why they can't handle the challenge to them.
Well,

Speaker 3 if you abdicate your free speech,

Speaker 3 your right to unfettered speech, and you let some other, the state decide, well, then they're going to decide what's in their best interest. Oh, of course.

Speaker 3 And they're going to limit the speech and they are trying to. And it was really a, it shouldn't be surprising, but it was, it was like,

Speaker 3 it was surprising to me that when it was discovered through the, thank God for Elon Musk and God bless him and protect him and pray for Elon Musk,

Speaker 3 his protection. Thank God for the Twitter files because the terrific work of

Speaker 3 Matthew Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi,

Speaker 3 this was really happening.

Speaker 3 They were able to discover that the government was infringing on the rights of of Americans and limiting and censoring speech that they disagreed with for what the government wanted to do. So

Speaker 3 for, and then when they had congressional hearings, instead of correcting the situation, which was egregious and a violation of the First Amendment rights of Americans, instead of adjusting it based on this new evidence,

Speaker 3 this anti-American attack on our system and free speech, the Democrats were just like attacking the messengers and attacking the people who brought this and trying to undermine them and demonize them.

Speaker 3 And it's like, wow,

Speaker 3 this is the time to regroup and go, hey, this is bad. Let's fix this.
Yes. But they didn't do that.
And that's what George Washington warns us about.

Speaker 3 When partisanship, when people worry more about parties,

Speaker 3 then they can really be a threat to the nation. That's for sure.
So

Speaker 3 you started on Saturday Night Live in 89,

Speaker 3 I think 89.

Speaker 3 89, 90 season with the glory years. Well, actually, I think that's that's fair.
I mean, the cast that you started with, you know, they're all still famous to this day.

Speaker 3 We had a, we had a great cast, but I, all I remember from that time is the, I mean, the newspapers saying how much we sucked that we weren't as good as the first one. Who was on?

Speaker 3 Can you just remind us who was on the show that year? Oh, well,

Speaker 3 you know, the great Dana Carvey, Dennis Miller,

Speaker 3 Mike Myers,

Speaker 3 really talented guy, and Phil Hartman, of course.

Speaker 3 And the new guys coming in, which, you know,

Speaker 3 was

Speaker 3 Nora Dunn was there and Jan Hooks, Kevin, the great Kevin Nealon, great guy, and talent.

Speaker 3 And then the new guys was me, David Spade, who got hired together as writers. And then the next fall, 1990, Adam Sandler ended up coming.
And my buddy, who I lived right across the street with.

Speaker 3 He lived with Judd Appetow right across the street from me in North Hollywood. And then Chris Farley came in at that time.
And And it was

Speaker 3 a really good time for comedy. And it was a great place to be in their 20s.
And that's

Speaker 3 so. That's 35 years at least that you've lived in that world.

Speaker 3 What's the response from your colleagues, peers, friends to some of the things that you've been saying over the last hour?

Speaker 3 They're coming around.

Speaker 3 They don't agree with all of it, but I would say that

Speaker 3 they're agreeing more to what they're seeing because it's tough because it is insulated.

Speaker 3 You can. You can stay in your political echo chamber.
You can absolutely avoid any

Speaker 3 questioning of your belief systems because belief systems, what we're talking about, is the toughest thing to really to

Speaker 3 have challenged. For sure.

Speaker 3 You can talk about like, am I a good cook?

Speaker 3 I don't know if I'm a good cook or whatever, but you can talk about, but if you talk about your belief systems, you talk about like uh if you talk about somebody's sense of humor do you have a good sense of humor yes absolutely why wouldn't i but not everybody like you can't be a good cook not everybody has the best sense of humor when you get to that belief system and start to question people get angry and um

Speaker 3 but i i think people are waking up and you got to have people with differences of opinion the the difference is as you know now it's like as we've seen before if you disagreed you disagreed and you worked whatever you know now if you have a different

Speaker 3 if you have a different opinion you're a bad person. Yes.
And you're judged for that. So now people don't want to give their opinion, which

Speaker 3 makes the expression and makes our culture poorer. Because we need everybody to talk and let the best ideas rise to the surface.
Exactly. And not judge them from a particular thing and

Speaker 3 for a particular point of view that they have every right to have.

Speaker 3 So, but do you think that people in the world that you've spent your life in would agree with what you just said? I mean, I think so if you get them one-on-one, not on Twitter, not on

Speaker 3 Twitter, not on Facebook.

Speaker 3 But have you been able to preserve your friendships despite political differences?

Speaker 3 Most.

Speaker 3 Some people, sadly,

Speaker 3 from the Bay Area

Speaker 3 who watch

Speaker 3 one of the networks that has four letters.

Speaker 3 What is it?

Speaker 3 M-S-N-B-C. Five.

Speaker 3 They.

Speaker 3 I used to work there, and I didn't know that. They love me,

Speaker 3 but I don't hear from them as much. And they're lovely people, and I love them.
And I feel like if they did see me, they'd hug me.

Speaker 3 But they just, you know, they said to me, there's a lot of people who like Gavin Newsome.

Speaker 3 Actually, well, that's what they're from Northern California. There's a lot of people.
They really like him. And you know what?

Speaker 3 He's, he's in power. And there was a chance that we were like, you know, worried because we saw what what he did to San Francisco.

Speaker 3 It's interesting because, like, you take guys that are really authoritarian, they have no problem closing your business. Oh, no.

Speaker 3 But if it's a business that they're associated with or they get anyway, they'll keep open. And Justin Trudeau, the dictator of the North, he will

Speaker 3 have no problem trouncing on the rights of Canadians who are protesting, who really what helped open and end COVID was those truckers who risked everything there. And this a-hole

Speaker 3 cold weather dictator closed their bank accounts and just completely took away their rights. And

Speaker 3 that's the thing about it, man. Your rights, they are on a piece of paper.

Speaker 3 And unless they're backed by the will and by the goodwill and by the people insist on it, it's just going to be a piece of paper. And so that's what happened in Canada.

Speaker 3 And those people's rights were trounced upon. So luckily, though, but

Speaker 3 that was enough to like wake people up, I think, in the United States who had guns. Yeah.
And Robert Kennedy, I talked about this.

Speaker 3 He said, the reason why we got out of COVID, because when I said that, I, you know, I told him years ago, you know, if you ever run for president, I'm going to support you no matter what. And I do.

Speaker 3 He's a great thinker and a wonderful man, and really wants to help educate people and get people healthy. I don't agree with everything he says, but who does? The point is, we agree on enough.

Speaker 3 We can't just go Republicans, Democrats. If you're willing to work with us on this issue, I'll work with you.
I don't care about what, you know,

Speaker 3 you're crazy on something else. And so I'm willing to work with him and to, you know, to move this forward.
I said, but the guns, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 The only reason we got out of COVID is because there are at least 400 million guns in America and the government can only push its citizenry so far.

Speaker 3 And I said, that is something that I, as someone who grew up in California, didn't understand that.

Speaker 3 I understood it pretty quickly during tyranny where the people could shut you down, where like a governor could say, you can no longer open your business, even though scientifically you can't.

Speaker 3 there was no science behind it, and it never had been. And so they were allowed to do that.

Speaker 3 And the fact that there has been no legislatures that have restricted the government's executive powers to prevent that from happening again is worrisome.

Speaker 3 And I said, this, this, you know, they could turn it off at any minute.

Speaker 3 And so I do think that because of that situation, because of COVID, because people saw the COVID tyranny, and now it's been exposed that there was no reason for the six, you know, the six feet of distance is all was just made up by Fauci and, you know, his cronies over there who were all paid by the pharmaceutical industry.

Speaker 3 They

Speaker 3 have, you know, my friends have come around to go, you know, maybe Rob's not so crazy. I've had friends who go, like, you know what?

Speaker 3 I didn't realize, you know, we just thought you were, we just thought you were nuts, but now they've come around.

Speaker 3 When did your views start changing? And why? I've always questioned things. I mean, I hate to say this, but like, I've always been kind of been kind of

Speaker 3 a contrarian. Go, why do we have to do that? That sucks.
Let's do something else.

Speaker 3 i bet that guy i grew up with my dad my dad you know set uh an example for just a troublemaker you know so i kind of you know this way i didn't start out i mean comedians aren't intellectuals we're de facto intellectuals we got forced into it because everybody else got demonized and silenced academics were like they couldn't talk about stuff scientists and doctors and comedians can still get on stage and still talk about it but so these other people got silent so we kind of have to step into that vacuum it's true and they go i just do what i can and you know i'm just college dropout.

Speaker 3 So, no, but that's, I mean, it's, you know, Dave Chappelle becomes a leading public intellectual. People go, exactly.
I saw him in 2016 because I go, what is happening here? What is this like?

Speaker 3 And I went, I'm going to go see his show. And there was two shows happening.
There was the show of

Speaker 3 his show, which is brilliant. And there was a show of the audience looking at him.
Well, that was another show. Because they were looking at him.
Please make sense of the world for me. Please.

Speaker 3 Because it's not making sense anymore. And he would.
And it's like, and that changed me. And I realized, well, that's what, you know, that's the way the direction to go.
And that was 2016.

Speaker 3 So, but my dad was a guy who would like, he was friends with this

Speaker 3 IRS, a guy who used to be high up in the IRS. I can't say his name.

Speaker 3 My publisher. Good friend to have.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 He said, he said, he said, because my dad was pissed off. He had to pay these taxes, which were much higher in the late 60s than they are now.
Yeah. Very high.

Speaker 3 You know, just it was crazy higher than now. People think about, I got to pay tax.
They were higher. They're like 60s in the 60 percentile.
So my, and he said, God, I'm pissed off.

Speaker 3 He said, he said, so what happens? I get audited every year because he had a private, you know, business, basically a private little bank. And he said,

Speaker 3 what do you do when the IRS agent comes over? He said, well, you know, I give him his own room and I, you know, they give him a box and a cup of coffee, whatever they need. He said, don't do that.

Speaker 3 He said, what do you mean? He said,

Speaker 3 just

Speaker 3 give him a box. Put the stuff on the floor, you know, put the stuff on another box and, you know, and said, bring the kids over, let them play and run around the room.

Speaker 3 And he said, he'll be gone in an hour.

Speaker 3 Don't make it easy for him to harass you. He said, just, yeah, just go have the kids run around.
Don't make it comfortable, too comfortable. You know, and so we would run around.

Speaker 3 And I couldn't believe like my, because my dad would never let me run around when there's people in the office. And I got there's people, he said, he said, just play, do what you want.

Speaker 3 My brother and I'm like, what? Really? So it was a disaster. We're running around dropping and breaking stuff and all this stuff.
And it was, my dad was like, I said, this is different.

Speaker 3 I didn't understand what it was till now. It's all years later.
But that was my dad's kind of way, like, ah, you know,

Speaker 3 giving it back to the man in some small, fun way where he can get a laugh out of it. My dad used to love to laugh and get laughs out of situations and whatever way he could.
And I guess

Speaker 3 some of that rubbed off. Did they stop auditing him?

Speaker 3 Not as much. And they were definitely quicker.
But he was a genius with math. My dad was a math genius.
He for a calculator, he just figured it out.

Speaker 3 I couldn't believe what he would do. And

Speaker 3 did he live to see your career? He lived to, thankfully, he got to see like a movie mine become a big hit. And it was like, he called me and left a message on my machine.

Speaker 3 And he said, well, Robbie, I think you finally got a hit on your hands here. I went to the theater.
San Bruno. Two theaters had your movie, two, and they're both sold out.

Speaker 3 So I think you got a hit, you know? And my mom started getting into show business.

Speaker 3 She said, you know, the Batman movie made 400 million, but they had, but their, but per-screen average was higher because there was in 4,500 screens.

Speaker 3 So the per screen average, when you look at it, there's a lot as much as your movie.

Speaker 3 So they got into it quick and they're very proud of me. So that was, that was real there.
My dad got to see that and he got to go and be there. And he died a month later.
But that was just beautiful.

Speaker 3 He got to see that and go to a premiere. And my dad dressed up.
I got to sit next to him and my daughter, Elle, on this side. And and it was just, um,

Speaker 3 that was beautiful. And I, I, I, I miss those times.
And I miss the phone calls and, and, you know,

Speaker 3 calling and him checking in on me and go, hey, dad, let me call you back. He says, you always say that.

Speaker 3 Why can't you talk now? And I wish I could have that conversation back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 but those are beautiful times. And to have that support of your father.
That's why it's so important to support and love your kids unconditionally and give them the reflect God's love onto them.

Speaker 3 And that's, that's our job as a parent and in society. And I fail.
I fail at

Speaker 3 being the best person I could be. And I get angry and sometimes I spout my mouth off.
But when some people

Speaker 3 attack people that I care about, it really bothers me. And I got to

Speaker 3 calm down.

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That's demonstrable.

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Speaker 3 So you got cut off. You were talking about Canada and the tyranny there.
Obviously, lots of great Canadian people. I knew you would agree.

Speaker 3 But the country's in turmoil.

Speaker 3 It's an authoritarian country. But you were...

Speaker 3 You were punished by the Canadians for telling naughty jokes. I was.
They really went after me, and it hurt not at all. I loved it.

Speaker 3 I remember like, I remember the, my favorite thing was because it was accused of being, you know, transphobe, which is like, it's just to fill in the blank, whatever you are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So you can tell jokes. I mean, the fact of the matter is, like, um,

Speaker 3 if,

Speaker 3 if we're just going to throw biological reality out, the truth, it could be, you know, not nice, but it's never hateful. No.
The fact that, like, you know, and I said, uh, I did some jokes about

Speaker 3 that I do my stand-up back that if I had a son and if he sucked at sports like I did and I wanted him to be a champion and victory, I said, well, just go, you know, I said, listen, it's not nice, but just go tell, I want you to feel, you know, you know, you're losing to all the guys.

Speaker 3 I want you to go and tell the coach that you're,

Speaker 3 you're a girl, you know, and then, you know, no, no, no, no, that's the best part. You get to keep your deck.
You can keep the whole thing. The whole thing.
It doesn't matter. No, just tell them.

Speaker 3 And then they have to accept it. You just say it.
You just say it.

Speaker 3 And I said, and you win it. Then you, you know, I do this thing.
And anyway, it gets big laughs, but it's also like, that's one thing they complained about.

Speaker 3 and people were laughing at that outrageous, you know, humor. And I said, The Canadians were mad that the audience laughed?

Speaker 3 So, one guy who was the same guy and all the complaining, and I remember like they were really laughing, and then they kind of got quiet because they're too polite.

Speaker 3 Canadians are too polite, they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, which ends up hurting everybody's feelings because then you have, you end up having some, some guy who loves China running your country who hires China.

Speaker 3 So, it's it's important to speak up and speak your speak freely and say when this when your countrymen, I said, I have nothing to apologize to you, Candid, about.

Speaker 3 If you know what you, I will consider an apology, consider it when you apologize for what you did to those truckers and what you, that, that, that ugliness of not supporting those people who were risking everything to drive all the way across the country, shut the country down so that this tyranny could end.

Speaker 3 And it was a powerful movement. And it was a movement not, and to not, to, to stand there and let your government officials call them terrorists.

Speaker 3 yes that is and put them in prison which they did disgraceful it is disgraceful and so when you make that official apology i'll talk about like how i felt and why i did certain jokes and i have no apologies to you at all and uh i'm glad i did it and i'll do it again if you let me back in the country

Speaker 3 which i assume they won't i will not be allowed back in the country

Speaker 3 just for for hate speech for jokes and you're not allowed on late night tv either i don't get invited to uh Do you care? No, why would I?

Speaker 3 I mean, like, it's, it's not, I mean, as I said, you know, it got on Twitter and then Fox News, of course,

Speaker 3 which I said, you know, much late night TV is just political indoctrination with comedic imposition. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it's, it was, it no longer resembles comedy as much as,

Speaker 3 you know, cheering on the rhetoric and, you know, attacking a particular

Speaker 3 one half of the country. And,

Speaker 3 you know, when I saw the dancing syringes, I was like, oof. But you know all those.
That's the weird thing is you know all those guys, I assume, because we lived in that world.

Speaker 3 I know most of them,

Speaker 3 but it's, I mean, it's easy to, I mean, and God bless them. And I hope that they can come around to become more independent in their thinking.
Because whether they're, they,

Speaker 3 you can literally replace the, the, the dialogue, I mean, the, the jokes from one late night guy to the next guy and then put them in the mouth of this guy.

Speaker 3 And it's just, it's just, there's no individual point of view because it is it is really ideologically captured and trapped and i you know i hope that they would realize that that's limiting i would hope that like you didn't you realize you know limiting soul destroying yeah i i think it's i don't think it's good and i think people have have woken up to it and they go like that ain't that that's not that's not representative of our country and i don't i think it's a job to question authority no matter who's in authority exactly question i mean satur night live at its best truthfully was trying to make our friends laugh and question authority no matter and make fun of authority no matter who's in charge.

Speaker 3 I remember, I remember we were making fun of Bill Clinton. We had

Speaker 3 Julia Sweeney

Speaker 3 played Hillary. I miss played the played Monica Linsky.
No, no, no. She played

Speaker 3 the daughter, what's her name, Chelsea. Yeah.
And I remember like, you can't go after somebody's kid. How dare you? And I'm like, well, it's a kid.
You know, we're not, she just put braces on.

Speaker 3 So there seemed to be like an outrage with liberals. They don't have as good a sense of humor.
They just, well, I should say this. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 They have, they're more sensitive and they just, they get outraged and

Speaker 3 they could, they don't like it.

Speaker 3 But at the time, Saturday Night Live did it anyway. Yeah, they did.
And they're coming back to it. I really think that they've, you know, they're making fun of Biden.

Speaker 3 They have, and they got a good crew there, really talented new group. And they're going to, it's, it's an institution.

Speaker 3 And like any institution, whether the, you know, particular late night show or a network or Saturday Night Live, any institution is going to be susceptible to this ideological claptrap.

Speaker 3 And it is, but it's also, you can understand it. And I think as I'm, you know, I was angry about it.
And, you know, I have to come to it from a place of peace and understanding.

Speaker 3 If I'm going to help it, if I'm going to participate in this culture, I have to come from a place of understanding.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it doesn't come naturally to me, but I got to come from a place of understanding, tolerance, forgiveness, and empathy. And it's hard to fight against that.

Speaker 3 When you are getting this, you can only talk about this and everything's got to attack half of the country. And

Speaker 3 they are susceptible to that. And hopefully they'll realize because the ratings are getting smaller.
Yeah. The number one guy is the very funny

Speaker 3 Greg Guttfeldt. You know, my buddy Jamie Listle goes on the show all the time.

Speaker 3 That's the number one show. So if you want to, if it's about ratings, about money, well, then think about the money.

Speaker 3 And I think eventually Hollywood, if they're anything, they're whores and they will do what makes money.

Speaker 3 You think that Sony Pitchers wants to have a Christian division? They didn't care about that, but they do now. Why?

Speaker 3 Because people like Angel Studios are making money non-traditionally, and they didn't see that coming.

Speaker 3 When Mel Gibson made Passion of the Christ, they tried to destroy that. Oh, I remember very, very well.
They hated him for that. And they did not take him out.

Speaker 3 And that became the first real internet-like sensation.

Speaker 3 And they couldn't stop it. He's a tough man.
He can take it because he has a faith in God. And he's like,

Speaker 3 and Catholicism is the closest to the original words of Jesus. And that's why it works for me.

Speaker 3 And there's a film that I want to make called about the Shroud of Turin. And it's the Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth.
It is. And the fact that the STERP

Speaker 3 scientists tested it in the wrong place and didn't

Speaker 3 quantify that there is these French nuns who were trying to repair in the 16th century the Lord's, their Lords,

Speaker 3 burial cloth, and that they would do this French thing called this French weave called an invisible weave. And that altered the findings of

Speaker 3 the testing, of the carbon dating. And so there's this beautiful movie that we want to make, and I'm going to make that.
And it's just expensive to make movies.

Speaker 3 And obviously, you know, I don't find myself in the good graces of Hollywood right now. But luckily,

Speaker 3 there are enough people who

Speaker 3 want to bring a message of healing. Are you going to approach Disney with that movie?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 You don't think Disney is going to come around anytime soon?

Speaker 3 You know, it's so funny is that, like, when I got the Disney channel, you know, my ego is like, maybe they have the, on the Disney channel, they have the hot chick.

Speaker 3 And they would never make that movie now. And I started turning it, they didn't have it on there.
But it's on Amazon Prime, baby.

Speaker 3 So Disney also is another organization that caught up in what sounds good, social justice, you know, the

Speaker 3 equity. Whoa, equity.
Yeah, whatever it is. Okay.
But what equity is, is a grievance.

Speaker 3 It's people like, I want this. And the idea that somehow we're going to get the same outcomes and that they're guaranteed.
It was like the,

Speaker 3 you know, Kamala Harris's

Speaker 3 dog whistle now is this, this, this equity thing. And what it, if we don't have, as Thomas Sowell says, if we don't have the same outcomes in the same family,

Speaker 3 how are we going to have that in society? We have to have a meritocracy. We have to have the best people.
And we have to have have some sanity.

Speaker 3 So, but Disney, no, they're not going to make a movie. And I hope that they do well.
It's a company that

Speaker 3 I worked for many, many years ago. It's a best brand in show business.
I will tell you a funny story that when I was there, I think Bob Iger had just taken over from a great man.

Speaker 3 I really loved Eisner. He's the one who turned that company around.

Speaker 3 And he was a fan of my movies. I love the guy, of course.

Speaker 3 But when I came in, and then I was still there, and you know, you're out when the new regime comes in. The old

Speaker 3 for a few months, been a few months. And they were talking about the movies.
And unfortunately, I was involved in, you know, at the regime that wasn't making a lot of money for movies at that time.

Speaker 3 We were on our way out. We all knew it.
And then there was a

Speaker 3 meeting with the board of directors. And I think Senator

Speaker 3 Mitchell was one of the

Speaker 3 on the board. And they said,

Speaker 3 and Eisner was, I mean, sorry, Iger was saying, well, you know, but this is what we, they looked at the boats. Well, the boats made 18 million last year profit.
And then the

Speaker 3 parks made this, made the 34 million profit. And why? Why the movies? They lost money.

Speaker 3 Why do we need to make these movies? Let's just not make movies and just do the boats.

Speaker 3 He said, well,

Speaker 3 Mr. Secretary,

Speaker 3 I think the movies are what get people on the boats.

Speaker 3 So U.S. senators aren't the best judges of

Speaker 3 the best judges of what movies should be made for children and their families. I hope Disney comes around.
They see what happens when they get too woke. They get spanked.

Speaker 3 They get spanked. And they,

Speaker 3 you know, that's a company that I got to root for. And I got to hope that they write the ship.
And, you know, money has a strange way. American, that's the thing about America.

Speaker 3 People come from all over, you know, in America, whatever they believe system. America has a wonderful seductiveness about working your butt off.
You get successful, making money.

Speaker 3 And so we've had a wonderful check and balance here, usually with what makes the most money. Let's keep doing that.
Yes.

Speaker 3 So I would hope that Disney writes its ship and gets away from this trying to indoctrinize our children. How awful is that? Depressing.

Speaker 3 It was really bummer that the fact that I, you know, my wife and I would have to watch the movies first before we let our kids, the last few years, we have to watch the movie first before we let our kids see it.

Speaker 3 Let's see what's, let's just check it first.

Speaker 3 My parents never did that to me. They took me to see the godfather, Sonny Carleone.

Speaker 3 They didn't ask me how did you deal with that? You know, we just, we, they didn't want to get a babysitter. So, but, so we would watch

Speaker 3 these movies just to make sure. Well, my wife would, you know, she does most 90% of the child rearing, but

Speaker 3 and to make sure that they're not getting any stuff that we don't want them to have. Yes.
And that's not okay. That's not good for their business.

Speaker 3 It's not good for society to like that you're putting out stuff there that

Speaker 3 is undermining a traditional family and trying to destroy the lives of kids. I mean, that's pretty dark.
It doesn't get any worse than that.

Speaker 3 How would you rate Trump, not politically, not personally, but from a comedy standpoint? Well, I've met him a few times. Nice guy.
I liked him. You think he's very likable? Absolutely.

Speaker 3 That's the thing about it. It's like, you know, you have a guy who genuinely has a sense of humor, tries to make jokes.

Speaker 3 And then the jokes are like, he said this, you know, will he be a dictator on day one? But then that's, you know, it's okay, it's a joke. He's joking.

Speaker 3 He doesn't need, like, no, he's going to be, you know. So he's got to be super careful.
That's why I feel sorry for anybody in the public eye.

Speaker 3 And unfortunately, during COVID, he listened to the wrong people and he trusted the wrong people. Yeah.
But I think he learned from that. And I think this time, hopefully,

Speaker 3 you know, I don't think he's going to

Speaker 3 I don't think he's going to make that mistake. I don't, I hope not.

Speaker 3 You know, I mean, I hope he doesn't just put in the bankers in charge of the banks and then the, you know, pharma people in charge of farm, in charge of the CDC and the FDA. And I'm hopeful.
But

Speaker 3 I think anybody who doesn't need it,

Speaker 3 who would, I mean, I wouldn't want to run for president, I mean, no chance.

Speaker 3 But he's subjecting himself to this.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 wow, that's rough. And

Speaker 3 I admire anybody who wants to serve their country in the capacity.

Speaker 3 And if you think about traditionally with a John Adams,

Speaker 3 to be a doctor,

Speaker 3 an attorney, the highest thing he could be was to be a public servant and go into politics. That's what he felt was the his highest calling.
And I think we've moved away from that now.

Speaker 3 So I,

Speaker 3 you know, I want what's best for this country. And I do think I like governments that are less

Speaker 3 administrations, I should say, that are less confident so that they don't want to go around and start more wars,

Speaker 3 blow up the world. And they think we're at a time financially in this country, you just can't keep spending another trillions and trillions of dollars and expect

Speaker 3 just this to be magically taken care of.

Speaker 3 This is an issue that this is a real problem. And this administration, and the same thing with the Republicans in Congress, this Ukraine war has to end.
We got to get out of it.

Speaker 3 Whether it's Robert Kennedy, who's a great guy,

Speaker 3 or whether Trump gets in,

Speaker 3 and we have to end this war because it's different than just these skirmishes and smashing up parts of the world, which is also awful.

Speaker 3 What they did, you know, what the Obama and Hillary Clinton administration did to Libya was just dreadfully awful. And you could saw that killed all those people for no reason.
For no reason.

Speaker 3 And then what's happening in Europe and the people who are leaving, and it's still a mess there. That is something that's a war crime.
That's a human rights violation.

Speaker 3 And we got to stop this war because

Speaker 3 this guy has the most nuclear weapons. I know he's going to use it.
it we might

Speaker 3 but if you push you keep poking a bear in the eye enough that bear is going to lash out and do something and 300 over 350 000 russians died have died at least in this war that's like seven eight vietnams for us over a 19 year period for us

Speaker 3 they lost more people in world war ii they're the ones that won

Speaker 3 world war ii they 20 million people they know what that sacrifice is. And they're not going to bend for this.
We have to, it's not going to be perfect.

Speaker 3 Like in any divorce, Ukraine's not going to get everything they want. Russia's not going to get everything they want, but there has to be a cessation of human carnage.
This has to stop.

Speaker 3 And whatever we got to do to do that, whoever administration is going to do that, and the Republicans also have spinelessly, you know, Senator Graham is just a warmongering weasel.

Speaker 3 We have to, these people need to be kicked out of office, even if they're replaced by party that I don't, I'm not fond of right now.

Speaker 3 We got to get rid of these people who, who, and if you are for war, get rid of them, vote them out. If you find out who your senator and congressman are voting for so that we can end this and stop it.

Speaker 3 As a Christian, what do you make of politicians who call themselves Christians and then cheerlead and vote to fund carnage?

Speaker 3 that doesn't help anyone, that results only in killing. Like, is that, that doesn't seem like a Christian position to me.
They are hypocrites.

Speaker 3 And they are hypocrites because not only are they continuing the slaughter, but they're also financially benefiting from it. So you have like, I mean, at least in some ways, the cat's out of the bag.

Speaker 3 Biden, what's left of Biden admitted that

Speaker 3 the money's not leaving the country. It's just going down the street to the pharmaceutical, I mean, sorry, to the military-industrial complex.
Raytheon's got that, these hundred billions. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 It's like, no, let us worry. Let us worry very much that we are exporting this murder, that we're exporting the slaughter and the taxpayers and that the congressmen also

Speaker 3 can invest in this.

Speaker 3 Congressmen, senators, I mean, that can make money off this slaughter. That,

Speaker 3 that is truly evil. I agree with you completely.
So

Speaker 3 we need to stop that. And hopefully this will, this new election will bring about an end to it.
It's got to stop. We can't let it spread.
We can't let it fester.

Speaker 3 And it's not going to be perfect, but no divorce, no end of war is, but it has to stop.

Speaker 3 So I want to circle back to where I began, which is your conversion or your evolution through Christianity, Catholicism. How did that happen?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 there's two beautiful things.

Speaker 3 One is to know that

Speaker 3 there is... far too many stars in the um

Speaker 3 in the sky that are necessary for the universe to continue. It seems to be, and there's far too much spermozoa in flowers for flowers to continue.
And they don't need to be that beautiful color.

Speaker 3 There seems to be an exuberance in creation. There's just too much.
And there seems to be a celebration, a celestial whoopee, as Alan Watts would say. And that's a really beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 There's too much exuberance in nature.

Speaker 3 I love that. And

Speaker 3 there's definitely a joyfulness to all of it. And it's like, wow, look at that.
Sometimes you look up at the clouds and you go like, that's as beautiful as anything that Monet could have ever made.

Speaker 3 Yes. And it's temporary, and everything is temporary.
So that's like the

Speaker 3 when you realize that the pyramids are at their half-life, 5,000 years, and in 5,000 years, they'll be dust. And I go, wow, how much more so us?

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 if you think

Speaker 3 if our works, whatever we do, if you think our good works are but

Speaker 3 dirty rags in the face of the Lord, how much more

Speaker 3 are pride, our vanity?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 came to me by having children and the incredible beauty

Speaker 3 and gift that they are and how they see the world and that their eyes point out to see everything.

Speaker 3 And that they know that they're connected to everything. And they have to be taught that there's a separation between them and their mother.

Speaker 3 This is something that they just naturally, they know they're a part of everything. When the astronauts look back

Speaker 3 from the moon, if they ever went, they

Speaker 3 saw one thing. If they had gone, if they had gone on the set that they were on, where they were shown a picture of in Laurel Canyon, I think

Speaker 3 they saw the picture of Earth, and they saw one thing, and where that one thing.

Speaker 3 And then, at the same time, when

Speaker 3 this is coming to me, my beautiful children are

Speaker 3 that I'm having a second chance at

Speaker 3 to be the father, to be a better father this time,

Speaker 3 a more present father,

Speaker 3 to see the rise of evil in the world and to be concerned about that and to know that

Speaker 3 now is the time to be courageous. Now is the time for people to step up and say injustice, whether it's the current attack on women, whether it's the educational system, not educating kids.

Speaker 3 I say, take your kids out of college right now. Now is not the time to let your kids go.
Who would, how much do you have to hate your kids to send them to Harvard undergrad right now?

Speaker 3 I agree completely. completely the business schools are great don't they're still going good they're all conservative too 80

Speaker 3 but um

Speaker 3 so you see a rise in evil and you have to know that like

Speaker 3 this is happening and i've been very blessed that i got to meet some people who educated me about you know evil and you know meeting dr m scott peck uh when i was young young man um

Speaker 3 and reading his books about this first self-health book was was was his it was the road less traveled and it was a book about how to be a better person, how to grow as a human being spiritually, and not take the easy road of just repetitive behavior or just not learning, not growing, but take the harder road, becoming a better person, learning, loving, being tolerant, being forgiving, being patient, which is, you could easily see how we transitioned into Christianity because he was a Christian without saying.

Speaker 3 He was just already had the followings of Jesus in his heart. And so it was a natural opening.
And he had a very interesting story about him,

Speaker 3 about how he was the doctor in the murder, the massacre of My Lai, which is the Vietnam massacre in the late 60s. And he was assigned as a psychologist

Speaker 3 by the Army, the U.S. Army,

Speaker 3 to

Speaker 3 kind of figure out the psychological makeup of the company Baker who did the massacre.

Speaker 3 And so he did.

Speaker 3 And it was very interesting, his findings.

Speaker 3 One thing is the only reason what we ever learned about the massacre of My lie was um was because the helicopter pilot who witnessed it flying above couldn't live with it anymore and so a year later to the day he confessed and and just said well this is what happened this is this is what these people were massacred and so during the psychological evaluation um

Speaker 3 which the army never released

Speaker 3 He said that these people weren't were people, it wasn't like

Speaker 3 this particular company had members in it that were, that had some grievances and that they

Speaker 3 had other issues and problems. And some of them maybe had

Speaker 3 joined the army to avoid this or that or were in prison or whatever. And then that also was just one aspect of it.
The other aspect of it is that they were being

Speaker 3 in a war that

Speaker 3 wasn't as much support back home. So they were, and they were going through and they were getting sniped at by the enemy, sniper fire, and they were just killing their friends.

Speaker 3 And they weren't able to get the enemy. They weren't able to get them.

Speaker 3 And they just kept happening. And so by the time they got to a village, they said, where is it? Where is it? Where are they?

Speaker 3 And the people, and this is something that's interesting because it reflected on my childhood because Asian people, when they are nervous, when they are frightened, they laugh.

Speaker 3 That is true when like all my relatives, when they are nervous or when they laugh. That's their go-to thing.

Speaker 3 So, when the Vietnamese people who were having guns pointed at them were nervous and afraid, they laughed.

Speaker 3 And these people went ballistic at that point and just murdered the entire village, just murdered them all, killed them all.

Speaker 3 And so, he did this and handed it in, and

Speaker 3 the army never released it. So, moving further,

Speaker 3 He wrote a book about

Speaker 3 after

Speaker 3 he became a Christian and then wrote a book about

Speaker 3 healing human evil called People of the Lie. And it's a short book, but very good book about evil.
And it's important now to identify and to help heal human evil.

Speaker 3 And it's a fascinating book, but it helps you identify people in your life and people who

Speaker 3 are capable and who are evil. And evil does exist.
And we need to arm ourselves with

Speaker 3 God and to arm ourselves with knowledge so we can protect ourselves for what's arising evil. And

Speaker 3 the last chapter of the book, well, one of the chapters, which is really stunningly awful, was this one kid who was depressed and he went to go see Dr. M.
Scott Peck.

Speaker 3 And he found out that his brother had killed himself.

Speaker 3 And he realized this is a really good kid, you know, and he's depressed, obviously, his brother killed him. And then he found out that for

Speaker 3 a birthday present,

Speaker 3 his parents gave him a gun.

Speaker 3 It's like that, which is absolutely stunned. And, but it wasn't just that, it was the same gun that his brother killed himself with.

Speaker 3 So there was a realization these, and he talked to the parents and he realized there were these were evil people.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 potentiality for human evil, we need to recognize and help heal, protect ourselves, protect our families. And

Speaker 3 the last chapter on it, which is demonic and satanic possession. And it was like, you know, I'm reading this book.
It's three o'clock in the morning at this point. I'm starting to freak out like this.

Speaker 3 And,

Speaker 3 but he postulated this theory. He said, like, the people who seem to be

Speaker 3 possessed seem to be very angelic people

Speaker 3 that this

Speaker 3 entity is trying to overtake.

Speaker 3 And they're fighting back for it to free themselves. And evil, even evil, it has to succumb to the will

Speaker 3 of Jesus Christ and must submit to it.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 which he, the theory that he postulates, well, this is somebody who's fighting back.

Speaker 3 So therefore, it makes sense that there are people who don't fight back and just accept it and go with that. And that kind of

Speaker 3 demonic possession becomes complete. And I think

Speaker 3 we have to

Speaker 3 know that

Speaker 3 that's something that

Speaker 3 exists, is real, human evil, whatever you want to call it. And so, what Dr.
M.

Speaker 3 Scott Peck in the bigger picture tried to explain was that, like, obviously, science and theology had to split at a certain point to survive because theology was

Speaker 3 crushing science. Yes.

Speaker 3 When Copernicus discovers that the sun is a solar, you know, the beginning of the middle of our solar system, not the earth, and it's not part of the

Speaker 3 church doctrine that has to be recanted.

Speaker 3 Obviously, science had to split. So you had

Speaker 3 the laws of nature, which is just, you know, they just took the lawmaker out

Speaker 3 and they're still the laws, you know, just like we have theological laws. So when you have that separation, what Dr.
Emscott Peck tried to do is to bring it back together.

Speaker 3 So when somebody's like a murderer or somebody's bad, you know, in science, medicine, you call them sick. Theologically, you call them evil.
They're one and the same.

Speaker 3 So in the attempt to cure human evil, I think

Speaker 3 it makes us, we need to do both and to work together. And I think through bringing people closer to God, bringing our nation, which was founded under God, I think we have a chance to heal our nation.

Speaker 3 Because there is a rise in evil, and I think we all see it. So it sounds like you're saying the rise in evil turned you toward God.

Speaker 3 Well, I think both bookends, the beauty of it, and my children, and the beauty of

Speaker 3 seeing what God's gifts are. And there's so many.

Speaker 3 And also, but also to be.

Speaker 3 You have to recognize that this, you know, whether it's a cycle or what happens, you know, that there is evil. There seems seems to be a rise in evil in the world, what's happening.

Speaker 3 And just like with, you know, in Europe in the 1920s,

Speaker 3 the New York Times called these small groups of people a bunch of misfits and nothing will ever come of them,

Speaker 3 the National Socialists. I think we need to be very careful how we move.
And I believe the United States must continue to be

Speaker 3 the guide for the world as an example of freedom.

Speaker 3 Not perfect freedom, not a perfect society by any stretch, but a one that aims for equality, that aims to be able to express itself, which and free speech is the beacon call for freedom in the world.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 nobody's swimming away from America. They're not trying to get out.
They're trying to get in for a reason because this is the greatest experiment in freedom in human history and continues to be.

Speaker 3 And we must fight and be vigilant. And now's the time for courage to protect it.

Speaker 3 So that's why I wrote this book.

Speaker 3 What an amazing conversation.

Speaker 3 Rud, thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for having me, Tucker. I feel like I owe you for therapy.
Let me see how much money I got on this

Speaker 3 for therapy. Oh, this has been a great.
I sat silent like a good shrink, just taking notes, which I'm going to file away.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. There's trouble with his mother.

Speaker 3 Robert, what are you doing? Put Put that down, Robert. Robert, stop messing around.
Stop, Robbie. See what happens? I grew up with that.
See what happens? You fell down. You hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 See what happens. Did your siblings become comedians, by the way?

Speaker 3 No, they came a very good audience.

Speaker 3 They did, yeah. That's sweet.

Speaker 3 My sister,

Speaker 3 she's my favorite laugh. My dad was the best.
He had a great laugh. My mother would laugh at the right time, every time, and then she'd go,

Speaker 3 what does it mean? What does he sang?

Speaker 3 But she was laughing because she was nervous and afraid.

Speaker 3 Well, she was laughing because everybody else was. So she, I'm sure she was nervous.
So,

Speaker 3 but she would laugh and to be polite. I mean, that's the thing.
Filipinos are so the nicest people. They really are.

Speaker 3 They even have a country not even named after anything Filipino. It's named after King Philip.
They don't even want to change it. They're not working.
But it's nothing Filipinos.

Speaker 3 What about this cultural appropriate? No, no, no. It's okay.
We like it. We're used to it.

Speaker 3 They're a great combination of sweet and tough they were tough under the japanese really tough they're tough they never stop fighting no they they're tough and they love america i know you will not go to a home in manila and you won't find in one of the homes there you you're not you will find a picture of general macar

Speaker 3 you will find it for sure they love america when i was there in 1972 little boy i'll never forget they still had the bayonets of the marines american marines who died they still had the bayonets there with the helmet on it they were still taking care of it every day.

Speaker 3 I was like, this is 1972.

Speaker 3 It's like, it was absolutely stunning, but they, that's how much, that's how grateful they were for the sacrifice for some other people coming from another country to save them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, that's from true oppression. The Japanese were, I love Japan, but the Japanese were, the Imperial Army is very, very harsh.
Unbelievably brutal.

Speaker 3 And, um, but you know, that they thought themselves as liberators. That's why they hated the Philippines.
That's why they didn't take them prisoner. During the Bataan death march, my uncle

Speaker 3 was a soldier. So, you know, if you fell down, they just killed you.
And they just, the Japanese killed maybe upwards of

Speaker 3 70,000 Filipinos. Nobody knows.
Nobody knows how many, because they didn't take them prisoners because they were fellow Asians that were

Speaker 3 fighting against them.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 they took umbrage to that.

Speaker 3 So they wouldn't take them prisoners. They didn't like the whole idea of it.
So that brutality for such an incredible culture. It is an incredible culture.

Speaker 3 And an incredible people and a beautiful, clean, organized, wonderful country.

Speaker 3 But just let you know that like there's no, no country that is

Speaker 3 that is not susceptible to do horrible things and to perpetuate evil in the world. And we have to, you know, be a buttress to it, you know, to really think about our actions

Speaker 3 and to make sure that we're coming from a place of

Speaker 3 reflection and that we're doing the work of God. And this country is a good country.
I love this country. I will fight for this country.
And I want to raise my kids in this country.

Speaker 3 I'm like, there's no other place to go. It's like, you know, we'll just go to this other place.
This is it. This is the last stand for freedom in the world.
This is it. So

Speaker 3 we're staying. We're going to fix.
We're going to fight. And we're ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 3 And I want to make sure whatever time I have left and God willing that God has given me my health and a beautiful family.

Speaker 3 Whatever time I have, I want to make sure that the potentiality, the potential for my kids to have the same, to live their dreams, this crazy kid,

Speaker 3 Filipino Jew, and have a chance to

Speaker 3 live his dreams, get on Saturday night live and say live from New York a Saturday night and to make movies that my dad could see.

Speaker 3 I just.

Speaker 3 What an amazing, what an amazing country this is. How beautiful.
My mother, she never thought of herself. She owns that.
I was American.

Speaker 3 My father's American. Her father was an American soldier, who she didn't meet till she was older.
So she came to San Francisco by accident.

Speaker 3 But she said, I love this country. Don't anybody ever say anything bad about this country ever.
I love this country. And she did with a passion.

Speaker 3 People who come here from and had, you know, from other countries, they get it. Yeah, I know.
They understand what an incredible, unique society and what this offers.

Speaker 3 So that was drilled into my head.

Speaker 3 You said you wanted to end on a prayer? Yes, I would. I'd like to end.

Speaker 3 I'd like to end on something that my friend said right before this new flap in the media about me. He said, what an incredible coincidence.
And there is no coincidence. Everything's meant.

Speaker 3 And this is a reflection for the day.

Speaker 3 August 10th. We've been our own worst enemies most of our lives, and we've often injured ourselves seriously as a result of a justified resentment over a slight wrong.

Speaker 3 Doubtless, there are many causes for resentment in the world, most of them providing justification.

Speaker 3 But we can never begin to settle all the world's grievances or even arrange things so as to please everybody.

Speaker 3 If we've been treated unjustly by others or simply by life itself, we can avoid compounding the difficulty by completely forgiving the persons involved and abandoning the destructive habit of reviewing our hurts and humiliations.

Speaker 3 So I would say,

Speaker 3 you know, thank you for this time. Thank you for this time, Jesus, and allowing me to speak my mind with this wonderful conversation and

Speaker 3 with my new friend, Ducker. And God bless this great country and protect her children.
God bless my daughter. And God bless all the daughters and all the people that are having problems in the world.

Speaker 3 And we thank you for all these opportunities that you give us. In Jesus' name, we pray.
In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Amen.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thank you.

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