The Tucker Carlson Show

Conor McGregor’s Presidential Bid, Tariffs, Erasing Irish Culture, and Deporting Rosie O’Donnell

April 18, 2025 1h 1m
Conor McGregor says the Irish people are intentionally being erased by mass migration. He’s considering a run for president of Ireland to stop it. (00:00) How Is Ireland Doing? (06:38) McGregor’s Humble Beginnings as a Plumber’s Assistant (08:53) The Erasure of Irish Culture (11:31) How They’re Trying to Keep McGregor From Running for President (18:59) Ireland’s Economic Crisis (31:17) How Long Until Ireland Is Unfixable? (35:14) The War on Christianity in Ireland Paid partnerships with: Hillsdale College: Take a free online course today at https://TuckerforHillsdale.com Liberty Safe: Promo code “MADEINUSA” for 5% off at https://LibertySafe.com/Tucker Hallow prayer app: Get 3 months free at https://Hallow.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is one of the great, Dublin's one of the great cities in the world. For sure.
The best city in the world. You can make a claim to that.
Walk around Dublin for a day and then think of five better cities. Not possible.
It's an amazing place. It's an amazing country.
How's the country doing? You know, like a lot of countries in the Western sphere, it is being governed by, you know, people with ill intentions of its people. Yes.
And, you know, they have not got the interest of their people at its heart. However, our country stays strong.
Our people are strong-willed, strong-minded, and we are of amazing spirit. And it's about highlighting the issues that are going on.
And as we have been doing, it's turning. We will get there.
I am not going to sit here in front of you with a doom and gloom about the things that are going wrong. I will highlight for sure, but I will highlight the solutions and the resolutions and where we are headed and keep the outlook positive.
That is what has worked for me my entire life and my entire career, where I was able to rise up and do things that were once considered unattainable. I kept a positive outlook and that's what I will urge my citizens and my countrymen, my fellow countrymen and women to do.
And that's what we are doing. We had a great moment in the Oval Office with President Trump where we got to speak, and before the press in the White House where we got to speak our case.
It was the first time it had happened in our history, really, where we felt, as a people, someone spoke up about our issues. We often hear, and very hastily, hear about overseas issues or foreign affairs, and we hear about it so much that we are left scratching our head.
Well, what about our issues? Exactly. What about the issues the people of Ireland face? And that is a rising sentiment that is taking place behind the doors of every household in the country.
What about us? And right now, the citizens of Ireland, not only do we not feel like first-rate citizens, we don't even feel third-rate citizens in our own country so you know we continue to highlight the wrongdoings of a minute government elite and it is minute you know and what they are doing you know they are using intimidation tactics they are using bullying tactics they are using diversion tactics they are using public funds and public wealth to enrich private people and private industries to alter the thinking of the public. And we say no more.
And we are in the midst of highlighting it and continuing our motion towards the betterment of our country and the saving of our great country. Ireland is God's country and you will not go against the nation of Ireland.
We are peaceful. We are not harmless.
And we will continue this journey onward. We are peaceful.
We are not harmless. Fact.
Amen. You could be describing the United States in everything you just said, that all the conversations about foreign policy in our country, it's about the Middle East, who cares? Eastern Europe, double who cares? And very little about what's happening to the people of our country.
And you feel that here. That is, I feel it's even magnified the more here.
I feel in this administration currently in the United States, it seems an America-first stance. And it's

a very welcome sight for us over here. We wish that for us, Ireland-first.
But I feel, and as many of my countrymen and women feel, there is almost like an incentive to speak your piece on foreign issues.

You know, if you think about a raise

or your next job or your next your next position that is where we feel our government elite have their eyes on they have their eyes on the next role for themselves and then in order to get that next role they must speak their piece on foreign issues and nothing to do with Irish issues. And then, you know, lo and behold, an announcement of a raise or an employment in the European Union delegate.
And then off they go on their merry way after a running riot on Ireland and, you know, zero accountability of doing so. And it's no more.
I'm not sure where people think they will go in this small island. You will not destroy Ireland and be free to walk away.
And that is a fact. How do you, I want to get to how you know all this and how you've distilled it to such a, to its essence.
I mean, that was such an amazing description, not just to what's happening here, but throughout the West, the English people. The entire Western sphere, for sure, it is happening.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Great Britain, which has already gone. I feel our government, again, overseas issues, yes, okay.
Internal. I'm an Irishman.
I love my country dearly. Nothing or no one could ever change that fact.
I would give my life for my nation and I have such a love for this soil and I how I know about it I'm just invested in it heavily you know I'm an employer of many people here in the country of many businesses here operating in the country and daily I hear about the struggles of people and you know the issues they are going through and it ignites a fire in me to stand up there's something in my belly from my country that I cannot shake and even despite maybe the worrisome of my mother and people in my life why why let's go away let's sail on the yacht let Let's fucking do something. Excuse the language.
Let's do something else. I cannot.
My country is my country and I'll fight for it till the day I go out. And that is it.

What was it like growing up here? Where did you grow up? What were the circumstances? What was Ireland like?

Ireland's a beautiful place, beautiful place to grow up. Very, very community driven and family driven.

And I grew up in a Dublin suburb off the city centre called Crumlin. Dublin 12 is the district.
That's why I named my whiskey proper number 12 after my district. It's where my public house is that we will go after in Dublin 12, the Black Forge Inn.
It's also home to the largest children's hospital in the country. So most people in Ireland have a relationship with the area.

It's a rough and tough area also.

Was it growing up rough?

For sure it was.

For sure it was.

You know, we moved out when I was about 17 years of age,

and that kind of got me a little break from it, if you will.

But I was 17 years of age.

I had already made my friends.

I was like an alien in the new place.

So I always made my way back down. My boxing club was down there.
My football club was down there. All my friends were down there.
So I met, although I moved out at 17, I never really moved out, you know, so. But Ireland's a great place full of great people.
But it wasn't a rich neighborhood you grew up in? No, no, no, no, no. It was not, no, for sure not.
So you're 17.

How far did you get in school?

I went all the way to my leaving church.

I was the only one in my family to do it,

so I held that up, I held that up.

At what age did you leave, 18?

18 years of age.

I didn't go to college.

I went into an apprenticeship.

It's either you get a job, you go to college,

or you get an apprenticeship. And I got an apprenticeship as a plumber on an industrial site in Kilternan County Wicklow which was actually at the time one of the actually it was the largest building site in Europe at the time and lo and behold misspending overspending over, all the rest of it, you know, back under central, the thing fell apart, the ass fell out of it, we'll say.
And that is one of my issues here in Ireland and the people of Ireland, the overspending that's going on. This is our public wealth being administered into private hands, enriching people to bring in this influx of illegal mass migration that is changing the fabric of my country.
Ireland is very close to losing its Irishness and we will not let that happen. And that's it.
We must continue to raise our voice and speak our peace. It's almost taboo to speak it.
And it has been made that way by our government elite. Like I said, they use bullying.
They use intimidation tactics. They use our funds to pay our legacy media to push an agenda.
They do not push facts. They push agendas.
I mean, I've only been here two days, but I'm a little bit confused by it because Ireland is not like the United States in that you have an indigenous population of Celtic people called the Irish who've been here since the beginning of known history. And so it's not like you were invaders.
You were also never a colonial power. You never invaded anybody else.
You didn't have overseas colonies. You just kind of stayed on your island and brewed alcoholic beverages.
The best brewery in the land. Not to me.
You never bothered anybody. You don't have any national crimes to atone for.
So I come here to Dublin, your biggest city, and not one advertisement on any public space has Irish people in it. Yeah.
And it's clearly part of the same propaganda campaign. Yeah.
Like, make white people hate themselves, make white people feel ashamed to be white, white people are criminals. It's like, okay, but who's doing that to you and why? Like, what is that? I feel since the turn of the crash, our government elite have been accosted into full-time globalist traders of Ireland.
And they take their orders from above. And it is not even them.
They are being ordered, and the orders are coming down onto the people, and the people have no say. We need amendments to the Constitution.
We need to remove this tight grip that the political elite have over the public. And that is it.
And that is our goal here, eventually. I operated my businesses and my entire life on fairness.
That is it. What is fair? What is correct? Our government elite do the absolute opposite.
And it has to change. It has got to change.
Our culture is being erased. And you have a very distinct thousand-year-old or older culture that's based on Irishness, the indigenous population of the island that we're on right now.
And they're being replaced at super high speed. So you have said immigration is treason, mass migration is treason.

Describe the scale of it to Ireland and its effects.

Well, in the olden days, my family, the MacGregor clan,

you know, treason is, you're hung drawn and quartered if you commit treason against your nation.

So, you know, what is going on here is an abomination,

a travesty, and it cannot continue for much longer. As you said, we are an island unto ourself, a small island.
And we are being governed by a small people who are in turn being governed by another minute group of people. And it must stop.
And that's it. There is so much worry in this government elite circle about myself running for president.

And if we are a true democratic nation, which we are not, and I don't believe so,

and it's becoming more and more clear and more evident,

and the more Irish people are being awakened to this fact.

But if we are, let the people decide.

It is this cozy clique where you have to almost bend the knee, you know, to even have a shot at this. We should be on the ticket.
And a citizen of Ireland should be allowed to be on the ticket above a certain age, above a certain grade, and let the people decide. A ticket to run for president.
A ticket to run for president. That is it.
I do not even... Wait, hold on.
This is a democracy, supposedly. Why can't you run for president? Because there's stipulations.
You have to get four county councils, which are controlled by the government parties. Or you have to get 20 nominations of the Oireachtas, which are all mostly party affiliates.
So you can't just run for president. You can't just run for president.
So how is it a democracy? Yeah, there you go. How is it? It isn't.
Oh, are you going to do it anyway? I'm going to push forward and carry on my journey, highlighting my country's plight, my country's fight, and also my country's delight. You know, I do not want to be doom and gloom here, as I said.
Dublin is greatest city on earth and ireland is the greatest country on earth and i know as an american man you're probably sitting there in your chair but we love ireland dearly our people no i'm not actually i'm i'm just the opposite i'm thinking you've got a claim on being the greatest country you do and it's worth fighting for and that's it that's what so why wouldn't people i know the media here hates

you but i've never understood why i mean you're not calling for invading anybody or throwing

anyone in prison maybe other than your corrupt leadership sound like they deserve it why would

they hate you i'm just calling for uh our national safety right now our secure national our national

security is at risk and that is a fact we are being overrun and it's a danger to the public

Thank you. Our national safety.
Right now our national security is at risk. And that is a fact.
We are being overrun. And it's a danger to the public.
And on top of that is our overspending of our public wealth. It is preposterous.
The splashing of our money on issues that have not, one, not got to deal with us. And two, that actually directly put us in danger.
And these are my issues that I wish will say run on our campaign you ask about my political aspirations I am of the belief that the era of the politician must end it must come to an end it has proven unfruitful and that is clear as day by the statistics and by what we see around us. It is straight chancery.
Our ministers and our appointed ministers have no history in the roles that they are appointed to. Our minister of finance has no history in accounting.
Our minister of health has no history in the health industry. Our minister of education was never a school teacher as an example, as an example, as an example.
It is straight chancery we are dealing with. The era of the politician must end, Tucker.
And I can see with the selections of the Trump administration that we look upon, which has been 24-7 right from my vantage point, you know, Trump, a businessman, you know, he's running it more like a business and with common sense. You know, that is where I would see it more so than these politicians where they're all in this clique and it's a party.
They are working on behest of the party and not the people. They are working to curry favour within the party to rise up the ranks.
And then the heads of the party are working to curry favour on the people above them again to rise up another rank. It just serves the country.
It does not serve the country. And that is it.
I'm simply highlighting it, putting it out to the people. If they wish for me to run whatever my nation wants, I'm here for.
That's it.

CNN has described you as the leader and i'm quoting of ireland's far right who has cnn which is a news channel in the united states far left far right all of these terminologies mean nothing to me i'm a man. I am an employer of the country.
You know, I'm a supporter of many people. And I care about my land and the safety of its citizens and the prosperity of its citizens.
I want preference. I want peace, preference and prosperity for the citizens of Ireland, for my people.
And isn't that fair for our country, men and women? It is our country. Ireland is for Ireland, you know, and that is it.
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So in the conversations I've had with people in Dublin, every single person I've talked to has said the same thing, which is Irish people can no longer afford houses. Their kids can't afford to get married and their kids can't afford to have kids and they can't afford to have kids.
The Irish family of 12 children doesn't exist anymore in part because no one can afford that. And yet your government is subsidizing immigrants to have kids.
And that's true in my country too, in Australia, in New Zealand, in Canada, in the UK., what is that? Suicide is what it is.

It's absolute suicide.

And, you know, it has to stop.

It has to stop.

The rising cost of living is a national emergency.

Yes.

And, you know, it has to stop.

We say no.

We built a toll bridge here in Ireland. We built toll bridges.
They're sold to foreign companies. The funds of this goes to foreign companies.
It's silly. It's a little risk.
So the people of Ireland build something and then your government sells it to foreigners and then you have to pay for it. And it's billions per annum.
Billions in profit per annum. And people, another thing, the traffic car on Garda Sia Khan is one of the most successful divisions in the Gardaí, in the police force, in our police force, for convictions.
And, you know, it is the most successful. And it has caused untold stress onto the people of Ireland.
I wonder the amount of suicides and the amount of lives lost and families destroyed over the stress of the traffic car institution. You get caught driving without tax or no NCT.
It's all a money racket, first of all. So just for foreigners watching this, you're talking about parking and minor traffic violations.
Parking and minor traffic violations. You're put through the ringer.
And now in this day and age, which is why it's so infuriating, and then, you know, we'll keep calm with it, but it's why people in Ireland are waking up, because everyone has felt in some way, shape, or form the stress of having to make sure that you're above board on this money racket is what it is. So it's not to keep you safe.
It's to steal money from you. Not to keep you safe, but on this day and age now, we've got our new visitors to the island who get fully exempt from driving without tax, insurance, NCT, and even on Irish reg plates.
Free as a bird, right through. After our nation has gone through the most stressful periods of our life, lives have been lost due to the stress caused of this branch in Angadishia Corner.

And yet now our neighbours from other countries are moving here and with full exemption to drive around our roads

with supercharged vehicles that have been imported on the taxpayers' dime.

And then also even another crazy statement is if something happens to your vehicle, if you're a nice, friendly visitor or potential new member of our country, you get your vehicle repaired at a cost to the state. So it is just ludicrous.
And the people of Ireland are rising up to it. Not even, we're just being awakened to it.
And that's as it away as we awaken you know we're noticing it's what you said real that's very very real very very real and it's how can they justify they cannot there is no justification you know what there is silence and that is that doesn't work you cannot be silent on this like i said you're not going to get to get off ruining Ireland or ripping off Ireland. Never in a million years.

But if they're paying foreigners to have kids

while you can't afford to have kids,

if they're shaking you down with the armed police

but allowing foreigners a pass,

if they're paying to fix foreigners' cars but not yours,

they hate you and they're trying to kill you, right?

It's an erasure.

It's an attempted erasure of our people. That is it.
I could have went all that way in the White House. I had to climb.
We had to go incrementally up, right? You go in. Hey, you talk about a genocide.
This is the genocide of our people. Obviously.
But, you know, you got to climb it right. So we're getting there.
And awareness is being made. And we'll make the moves.
And there's many great people. In fact, the majority of the Irish people are great people.
Majority, majority are great people. I agree with that.
Doing great things for our nation. And the pressure and the awareness we're putting on our government elite is causing slight changes.
You know, they're doing certain things to appease. However, how genuine that is, how much of a facade that is, we're sceptical.
Our trust is at an all-time low. And, you know, you see we walk the length and breadth of the Dublin city capital, and it's love and, you know, cheer and support.
Not one politician under any party can do the same. And that is a shame.
And I actually, I don't understand why they, Ireland, we are the greatest supporters. If you do good by Ireland, Ireland will do good by you.
And none more is that evident than in myself. We are the greatest supporters in the world, they say.

How our politicians do not wish

to receive this love?

I do not understand it.

Fundraising efforts will begin and there will be

a large fund built into this

where we're going to really take back

our country. And that's it.

Funds are needed. Money is needed.

Is anybody... So you've made a, I think...

If I think about these tariffs, what's going on right now,

well, their money dries up

and they're panicking about their money

Thank you. funds are needed.
Money is needed. Is anybody, so you've made a, I think.
If I think about these tariffs, what's going on right now, well, their money dries up and they're panicking about their money. Our government elite, our money rises up.
And that is an exciting thing for the people of Ireland to hear. And that's what this is.
My funds are infinite and I'm all in for the country of Ireland. And I've got incredible backing from your country and other countries that wish to support our cause.
And that's it. It's a real movement for change.
So let me ask you, so a lot of political movement, or one political movement in particular in Ireland, had support from rich Irish-Americans for years. The Republicans, the nationalists here, had support from donors in the United States.
Do you think Irish-Americans in the U.S., a lot of whom are rich, understand what's happening? No, no, for sure. And when I seen Michal Martin, our Taoiseach, our rotating Taoiseach, grace the Oval Office on March 12th, five days before St.
Patrick's Day, five days before myself, I saw softball. I saw a game of softball by Vance, by Vice President Vance and President Trump and almost a little bit of pandering to him being safe with him because you cannot be seen that's 40 million Irish Americans and that vote is very strong for the administration you need that on strong you need that on side so they although their feelings are well known, you know, they're well against what's going on here in this country.
They could not be seen to be tearing through an Irish delegate on the St. Patrick's week.
So they played it, they played it correct. And then when I seen this, I said, okay.
And I got my call to go and show up. I said, I'm going to highlight this to the Irish American people.
This is what's really going on. You know, some people are saying, hey, I'm from Wexford.
I'm from Wexford. My grandmother's from Wexford.
I said, Wexford was the sunny southeast is what we used to call Wexford. Well, we do call it a holiday destination.
It is now no more. There is no hotels available in Wexford.
They're all transferred into IPAS centres which are International Protection Applicant Services. It's this racket where they're all getting housed.
It is an office block. It is a hotel.
It is even a school. It is even schools now are being transferred into these IPAS centres.
Filled with immigrants. Filled with immigrants, yes.
So they totally wrecked the town. Soxford, Russell Airport is another port where they arrive in, and they're in County Wexford, which used to be the sunny southeast, a beautiful holiday destination, is now without a hotel in the county.
They've all been transferred into international protection. Why doesn't someone overthrow the government? Here? Yeah, I mean, that's like an act of war against your country.
I mean, I shouldn't say that to you because I don't want to get you in trouble. Look, I'm statesman-like.
I will carry on statesman-like. I will say this.
We are peaceful. We are not harmless.
In a normal country, people wouldn't put up with that. We move under God and we let God guide us.
We're capable of many things. We're capable of many things as a great nation, as a great people, and we move under God.
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You need to realize where you originated from is on the cusp of being done. And some are already gone.
Some are already gone. However, it's not, I don't see it as, I see it as correctable still.
I see it as fixable. You know, even if you think about like the deportation efforts, I asked Speaker Johnson, where is he going to go? You're talking about this, it'll be the largest deportation effort in the United States history.
Where do you plan on going? He said, the prisons. He said, the prisons force.
He said, and I just thought, okay. And then I thought about our prisons.
Our prisons are overrun right now. We've got maybe just thousands of people without a bed even in a prison, let alone we can't house our people.
We can't even have a bed for prisoners. So, you know, straight away, you're going in there.
You came in, you committed a crime on our soil, you're gone. You know, that's it.
No ifs, ands or buts. Why is the taxpayer paying to keep prisoners from foreign countries in our prisons?

And it's being overran. So, you know, I would be up for that.
And then I would be going to these IPAS centres. I would be going to the direct provision centres.
How did you enter our country? Illegally, you're gone. You know, have you a criminal history? Gone.
Is there a genuine attempt to assimilate into the culture and achieve a job and give to the community and support the community? If so, yes, Cade Mila Foggi. If not, gone.
And, you know, we can do that. And then also a turning off of the tap.
You know, right now, as I said about the car situation, you know, they arrive, they get, you get favor if you're from another nation.

But if you're from, if you're not. Why? Why?

Who thought of this?

It's an order from above.

It's a globalist agenda.

That's the truth of it.

It's a globalist agenda.

I know it is.

So for me, if I get in,

I'm going to be exerting my influence

to turn off the tap.

If you think about what Trump has done,

they're actually stopping to, they're stopping coming in because it's not there no more. The gravy train isn't there no more.
What is there is actually resistance, you know? And that's where it's at. Now, there is a human, there's compassion for me.
There's compassion. I employ people from all walks of life.
So there is a compassion element. Many people have emigrated here, have done great things great things for our country and that has to be highlighted also but it's like at a stage now where the great people who have came here and emigrated and contributed greatly to our society are now being feeling the strain of of of and are feeling the wrath almost because of this social unrest it has to stop it has got to stop you know and we're at're at our limit with it.
We are really at our limit with it. How the next few years go, it's a bit, it's worrisome.
It is worrisome. This EU pact, this EU migration pact, that as a president, I could get in and I could really rattle it and put it to a stop, push to stop it, which would be the main thing.
They're trying to now hurry it through, which if it goes through, it's like 20,000, 40,000, 50,000. It's an unlimited number that we'll have to take.
It's on the orders of... And move all around your country, right, into small towns.
This is what they've done in the United States. They move them into small towns around the country, so then your country's gone and you don't even know it.
Are they doing that here? Yeah, there's counties overrun right now. There's a county in Ireland, it's a Galetok county.
It's a Galetok town. And there's more IPAS.
It was a home for the Ukrainians, and now it's being altered into an IPAS center. And it's one of the last places of our language.
And that is feeling an influx, you know, the people are out in the streets against it. So it is happening in counties all over Ireland for sure.
And with this EU migration pact, if the floodgates are open on that, it's a difficult time. It's changing the religious composition of your country, which since St.
Patrick has been a Catholic country. You had Anglican overlords from across the water, but it's been a Catholic country for

over a thousand years. So now they're trying to put a refugee center in a,

like at a Christian holy site town in Ireland, I was reading this.

Yeah. It's hard to think that's not on purpose.

Yeah. Yeah, it is purposeful for sure.
Is anyone saying anything about this? Like in your media? You know, I wonder. I do often wonder.
And I'm almost certain they must be behind doors. You know, it's like if your boss says something and you don't agree, but you're going to, you might have to agree because your livelihood is on the line, which is essentially what it is.
A lot of people's livelihoods are on the line. In fact, the only people that agree with it are in public.
Because I could not believe that they could believe it behind closed doors. Boss or not.
Livelihood or not. I'm almost certain they could not believe that they could believe it behind closed doors, boss or not, livelihood or not.
I'm almost certain they could not believe in this way for our country. But that's it.
I'm just, you know. So your biggest media company, State Media, it's like North Korean state media.
It's called RTE. Yeah.
And it literally is an organ of the state, which is amazing. But then you have social media, and you tweeted on social media, Ireland were at war.
Yeah. You obviously are.
What was the reaction from the government to that tweet? Uproar. You know, I was the scapegoat.
An incident happened where an Algerian visitor or citizen had an Irish passport, or so we believe, that the information is not fully revealed. You can never get a straight answer from these people.
Never get a straight answer. Our children were stabbed outside of an Irish school on Parnell Street.
And a teacher was stabbed trying to fight them off. And then an Irish man jumped in.
And then an immigrant from Brazil jumped in, and together they wrestled them down, and then it was, you know, hide it, and blame my tweets as the reason it kicked off, and that's kind of what we're dealing with. Wait, an Algerian stabbed Irish children, but it was your fault somehow? Pretty much was kind of what the rhetoric was, yes.
And then, you know, that was it, yeah, pretty much. Like I said, I often wonder if I think about, you know, do they believe in this? We have 6,000 members of the Defence Force, 6,000 army, and we have about 12,000 Gardaí.
I really wonder how many are happy with the direction our country was going. I cannot see, I cannot see many behind closed doors.
Gardaí or the police? Gardai or the police. I cannot see many closed doors that are happy with this.
Even if I look at what has happened in some of the protests where the Guardi are following orders. They're doing their job.
It's a tricky one. It's a sad one to see.
It was very sad and upsetting to see our Guardi throwing on their compatriots. And that's what we we saw and use excessive force.
But it's an order coming down and I feel sad seeing it. I feel sad seeing it.
And most recently, one of them came out unnamed and said it has stayed with him. They are very, very troubled by it.
And it's just a sad sight to see. You know, Ireland, we should be together.
And that's what I said. I wonder how many behind closed doors are really with this cause that we are fighting.
So if nothing... I would assume it's most, the majority.
I think that's true in the US too. I think our FBI is totally corrupt, as I'm sure you've read.
I think most FBI agents are probably appalled, but too afraid to do anything.

How long, if nothing changes, will

Ireland remain Ireland, do you think? How much

time do you have before it's just not

fixed?

Well, we are a small

island. We are a small, small

island, and we are now...

I don't even want to highlight...

I'm actually at a stage now

where I'm cautious of highlighting the benefits of arriving here because it's only going to attract more. You know, if I look at Trump's situation, it has decreased the amount of people who are attempting to immigrate to the United States of America because of what's going on.
This is what I wish were to happen. You know, if you turn off the tap, they go or they stop coming.
If start if you if you show a basket full of golden eggs you know they just arrive for it you know and that's kind of what it is so it's awful here i just want to say that it's a free-for-all with our public wealth with our money a free-for-all and it's being stolen and it has to stop. It's not how long.

I couldn't give you the exact figures.

Statistics, it doesn't look bright.

It could happen a year.

Not long.

Anyway, not long.

Feels that way.

So how did you, just back to my original question,

you're a plumber's apprentice on an industrial site in Ireland,

cutting cast iron pipes and replacing them or whatever you're doing, probably something like that. And then you wind up here thinking about running for president with these very evolved political views.
How did that happen? Having a love for one's country. That's it.
I have a love for my country. I fought to represent my nation's flag on the grandest stage of fighting.
That was my aspiration, to represent my nation, to open the doors of the fighting world and the martial arts world to the Irish public and to support my teammates. We were all, we had a kindred spirit rising up, chasing our dreams and a very tight-knit crew.
And we rose up and I got in there. I was successful.
I opened it up. Now the martial arts lifestyle is a real way of living for many people in Ireland.
And I take great happiness in seeing that. And I suppose it's just continued off of that.
You know, it's a different fight now.

You know, it's a different fight,

but it's still a fight to represent my country

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So when you started fighting, as you said, you're a plumber's apprentice on an industrial site. And then you announce in public a few years after that, you haven't heard of me, but I'm going to be the world champion.
And then you were. Yeah.
Five times. Five times.
Did you know that you were going to be or were you trying to put your marker out and then live up to it? Well, that's what I will say here about, you know, I do not wish to be doom and gloom. My outlook on life has always been to have a positive outlook.
You know, borderline delusional. I could walk into a burning house and see her birds chirping, as an example.
And that assisted me in being able to block out certain things that may have impacted me and hampered me and slowed me down from getting to where I was going. So I wish to continue with that and have a positive outlook and say, it's not all doom and gloom.
Like I said, there are positive changes happening incrementally, slowly but surely, slowly but surely. And as I said, there's a great group of people, and it's the majority of Irish people that are at the helm of it.
I am a voice and a support. And as I said, I'm here to serve my country, serve my country to the best of my ability and protect my country.
That is all I wish. I wish for the people to have the power and myself to have a vote amongst the people.
That is my aim. What did you think of President Trump? What do I think of him? Yeah.
I think he's doing very, very well. I think, you know, I was present for his 2016 inauguration, although not officially.
I was there on fighting business. I was fighting in Madison Square Garden for my second UFC world title.
And MMA and UFC had just became legalized in New York at the time. And I remember Trump had been just voted in and he won the election.
And it was upro on the streets and anger and you know fear I suppose was going on and at that time I was just an observer you know politics wasn't really on my mind at that time Ireland was not really going through what it was going through at that stage in 2016 although it was rising it was unbeknownst to me and many in the country were you not political really, really? Not really political, no, at that stage. You know, I was focused on my craft, and it wasn't at the forefront.
It all kind of took a turn post-COVID. It all took a real turn post-COVID.
And you could kind of see what was going on and what had gone on post the crash, you know, and who our government is serving. You could kind of see that come to fruition then throughout the COVID era.
And then I just became more invested in and then that was it. But I was there for Trump's inauguration when he was sworn in for the first time.
Fear, worry, panic. And then I was there the second time in 2024, most recent.
And it was elation and excitement. And I thought it was good to see I I they asked me what do I think he'll be as a president I said well when it was 2016 in in in the media runs I was doing and I said let's see you know give the man a chance he's not by he's not from a political background he's from a different background it's interesting let us see thought he'd done well.
You know, towards the end of the term, you know, there may have been times to, you know, as a leader of a country, you almost need to, you know, cool the flames. You know, maybe there were some things that might have fanned the flames towards the end of his term that I thought.
But this time around, I feel he's off to a good start. And I wish him well.
I wish the country of the United States of America well. I consider them my dear siblings.
We consider America our sibling. And I think it's going well.
And we're getting a good fair bit of energy from it, from Ireland, even amidst the tariff situation that is going on. You know, Ireland's people have not seen the money got to do with this whatsoever.
In fact, we have been, you know, robbed of our own money. And yet, yet, yet we are supposed to be this wealthy country.
Yet the people of Ireland are struggling to heat their homes. So there are many people who are seeing this tariff situation as a, you know, a gotcha moment for our government.
I'm not so much of that. I wish for our country to be prosperous and our people to be prosperous.
And that's what my aim is. That's what my wish is and my hope is.
So you're not necessarily against the tariffs, it doesn't sound like. Well, our governments say, what good is tariffs? Tariffs are no good for nobody.
Yet they've been tariffing the United States. If that's the case, then why have we been tariffing them? Why have we been hitting them with tariffs? I'm not so much against it.
I'm watching it. You know, I'm watching it.
I wish for economic success for my nation. And, you know, Ireland deserves it.
That's how it's trade. We play at our cards correct in certain ways.
And, you know, that's it. But like I said, fair, it has to be fair.
Fairness is key here. And that's what I push for.
Since no Irish politician, well, you're one of the most, maybe the most famous living Irishman, okay? So there's that, world famous. And you're saying things that the overwhelming majority of your politicians will not say that are probably pretty popular with the people.
So're therefore a massive threat to the structure running your country now what do you think they're going to do to you if you keep talking this way attempt to tarnish as they are you know attempt to disrupt as they are or possibly worse but i know i do not fear i do not fear it like i I said, I move forward under God, and my nation can see my heart and what I'm for. And that's it.
I move on and carry on. You're really not afraid at all? Not an iota.
When do you have to make the decision about whether you want to formally enter politics? Well, we believe the election will take place November 11th. So it's a 60-day run-up prior to that.
So I'm just going to keep requesting a democratic process to play out and allow the people to decide and see where it falls. It'll become more evident if they deny this, that we are not a democratic country.
And they'll have to answer to their constituents at some stage. You know, there will be accountability.
You know, it's how much are they going to be accountable for. They'll have to decide.
And that's it. You've described yourself as an employer.
You said that a couple of times. Tell us about the businesses you employ people in.
I've got many businesses here in the country.

I've got about 300 staff all in.

I've got public houses.

I've got construction efforts going on building social houses. Public houses meaning we would call them bars.

Pubs, yeah.

Not public housing.

No, yeah.

Pub is short for public house.

So I've got public houses.

I've got breweries.

I've got companies also. We're brand brand building and i have also construction efforts where i'm building many social houses houses towards uh the housing crisis that's going on i'm currently about about 300 houses built already and you know i'm closing in on you know my next venture is about a thousand houses built So I'm doing my part to help this housing crisis.

I've always been doing that.

And it is at a heavy cost.

I'm not going to lie.

It's a heavy cost.

What do you mean?

There is no profit in it.

It's a build, and it's for the people, and that's it.

There's no profit in building houses?

No profit in it.

For social housing, I get my money back if I'm lucky. Maybe a little sweetener, a little drink, we'll say, here in Ireland.
Yeah. But for the stress it is causing, and the time, it's a difficult task, but it's worth it.
You know, there was one I'd done. I completed a build of eight houses.
It was actually my very first one. It was maybe two years ago.
I've only, I've only, maybe four, three, four years ago, but it was in a part of Dublin called Santry. And there was eight homes, and I had got them completed just before Christmas.
So there were eight homeless families that were brought into their new, forever home right before Christmas. And that filled me with such energy to continue and go and do it.
And I went full steam ahead. And like I said, now I'm in the process.
I've got 300 strong now in construction close to finish and more than 1,000 being built already. And that's what me, my own self, able to do this with every block in my way, as one individual citizen of Ireland.
If I was to get in and to have influence, I really fancy my chances. I mean, the bar is so low.
Every statistic, every metric is on the floor. Every metric is on the floor.
I'd get in and I'd be able to decrease our homelessness, you know, build our housing, you know, slow down the role of influx of illegal migration, control the spending. I fancy it.
Our country has not been run correct and it is clearly evident to everybody outside of the political paywall. Everyone is aware of it and even those inside of the political paywall are also aware of it.
However, they are being bullied, intimidated, and threatened with their livelihood unless they go along with it. So a turn will happen.
A shift will happen. I'm doing my part.
And I'm proud to do so and honored to do so. And I will continue to fight for my country and the future of the children of this nation.
And that's it. Do you really sincerely, be honest, think that your beer is better than Guinness? So it's another level.
It's the world's creamiest stout. Not only is it better tasting, it is better pricing.
It is brewed right here in Dublin. And there's an employer of about 100 people in that brewery.
It's a fantastic brewery. And the Forge Brewery, you can go and visit it if you have time.

But we will go and test it if you wish.

I would fancy a blind taste test

any day of the week

and I guarantee victory.

We have done amazing things

with the stout to date

and it's still only on the rise.

But there have been

many taste tests done.

So there's a couple of stouts.

Guinness is the top at the minute.

We are number two on the rise.

And then there's

some other brands.

You know,

there's some other

great Irish brands,

Murphy's and Beamish.

It's a shared pot.

A rising tide

raises all ships.

You know,

the others are bullies.

Yeah,

the others are bullies.

I am,

I wish to build up

all our stouts

and all our,

you know,

because Ireland,

we are world champions

at making stout

like we are the world champions

at making whiskey.

It's,

it's put them all to the test on a blind taste test forge Irish stout it's just a little weird I guess I didn't realize that Guinness was an English company so after this is the Agio owned yes and they were centuries of colonial oppression and they're still selling their stout here you know if you're not held accountable or you've got you know you're free to do as you will that will. That is what it is with Guinness.
Even as they go in, I'm a publican also, so I own pubs. So I deal with Guinness and I serve Guinness.
I serve my competitor, no problem. We outsell it 10 to 1.
10 points to 1 we outsell it on site. But, you know, other publicans are dealing with Guinness distributors.
And they're not friendly, they're not supportive, you know, because they've never had to to have been and then when I came onto the scene with Forge Irish Stout, all of a sudden they start coming and shaking the publican's hand a little bit differently. They start acting Irish They were held accountable they had to be by the book it was creating fairness and then there was a hit job done on me and it kind of took me out of the market here in Ireland for a minute, and that's kind of what happened.
And it is what it is, you know, but I have the best stout in Ireland, Forge Irish stout for sure. Interesting.
And you're going to have one. You don't drink, do you? You don't drink any oil.
No, I had a Guinness no alcohol last night. We can get you one of them.
We've got the zero zeros on site for sure. We'll get you one of them.
Yeah, it was okay. Yeah, that's nice.
So in sad news, I know you said you're a, you know, looking at the bright side kind of guy, but Rosie O'Donnell has moved here. If you're president and you tackle the immigration crisis, and I do think Pakistan and India take a lot of the blame for it.
Africa, but also Rosie O'Donnell.

Like, would you deport her?

Can you promise to deport her?

What is her criminal history?

Has she got a criminal background?

How did she enter the country?

Did she enter the country illegally?

Has she assimilated with our community?

Does she hold our beliefs?

Is she an upstanding member of our community?

Or would she be?

If she is not, well, then she's got to go.

You ain't got to go home. You got to get the head out of here.
But I don't know Rosie O'Donnell from Adam. But you know I believe she's a comedian.
I've seen her on our national TV she spoke a bit ill of me. I don't know Rosie.
She seems unhappy. She seems going through something at the moment and I'm not the type of person to kick a person when they're down.
I wish for her. I believe she's a comedian is what her craft is.
I wish for her to find her happiness again. And that is it.
But you could feel that she was going through something. I could feel it for sure.
And I wish for her. I wish happiness and spread love in the world.
That's it. Well, you're a very, very decent man, I have to say.

Last question.

Do you think that Ireland is famously a spiritual country?

You know, your patron Saint Patrick, after whom the day is named,

was a Christian leader.

And you think of Ireland as a very religious country.

It's not really anymore.

Do you think it's becoming more spiritually aware or less?

Yeah, for sure.

So you feel that?

Yeah, for sure.

It's spiritual warfare going on right here, 100%.

Yes.

And we fancy our chances.

We fancy our chances in a big way.

Me too.

Conor McGregor, thank you very much.

Okay, Carlson, thank you very much.

That was awesome.

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