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This is the Victor Davis Hanson Show.
I am Jack Fowler, but you're here to listen to the man, the farmer back from the hills, Victor Davis Hansen, who is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marshabuski Distinguished Fellow in in History at Hillsdale College.
And we are recording on Sunday, July 6th.
Victor is back in his happy home in the Central Valley, and he is riproaring and ready to take on a few topics.
The first one is that Elon Musk now has made it official.
There will be a third party in American politics.
We have Medicaid fraud.
We have Trump UGs, which are refugees from Trump.
Good luck, suckers.
Mandami, the socialist candidate for New York City.
Did you know Victor?
he was
black?
You know that?
I mean, excuse me, I didn't believe he's an African.
You tied at Khan that I've had a lot of former students that were born in Africa, either in Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, and they said they were African.
And every single, and I warned them not, every single one got caught.
Yeah.
Or at least they didn't work.
They didn't get.
Yeah.
It didn't work with him either.
Nice scam.
Well, we'll get your deeper thoughts on that and a few other topics, and we'll do that.
It's not going to win him the black vote either.
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Victor, you've listened to your shows with the great Sammy Wink from Friday and Saturday, and you did discuss at some length Elon Musk's threat to launch a third party.
I think it was yesterday on Twitter.
Maybe it was the 4th of July.
maybe it was the time he celebrated.
He did officially announce he was going to create an American party.
And
if I can just look at, here's what it will do.
America's party will be focused on reduce debt, responsible spending only, modernize military with AI robotics.
It will be pro-tech.
It will accelerate to win globally with AI, less regulation across the board, but especially in energy, free speech, pro-natalist, and centrist policies everywhere else.
That's the basic theme of America's party.
Victor, your thoughts.
Didn't we have a party called the American Independent Party under George Wallace, third party?
Had several third parties.
Yeah, I think it was called.
It's never worked, Elon.
We had the Dixie Cracks with Strom Thurman in 1948, I guess.
I guess it got some electoral votes.
Ross Perot got the highest ever, I think, except for Teddy Roosevelt.
He got 19% of the vote in 92%.
He probably ensured that George H.W.
Bush would not be reelected, which was, that was his purpose.
He had a long Texas feud with the Bushes.
Not that Bob Dole would have won, but
we keep forgetting that when four years later he announced and he pulled back and it was all crazy, he still got almost 10% of the vote.
And that meant that Bill Clinton was never elected with 50% of the vote.
So that's what they do.
And Teddy Roosevelt, spoiler, he's a sore loser.
He thought William Howard Taft
would be the left-wing progressive Republican, but Taft wasn't.
So as you remember, he ran in the election of 1912, came in second, the bull moose, but ensured that
that was his purpose if he wasn't going to win, that Taft wasn't.
And what did they get?
They got Wilson.
We got Clinton.
So if
Elon Musk knows that, he's not stupid.
So if he's running a third party, it is to punish the Republicans in the next midterms and in 2028.
And from what we know, he's not close with the MAGA wings, so there's an incentive.
He can't hurt Trump.
But I don't know why he's doing that.
It's so sad because it was a good relationship.
And I admire Elon Musk, and I have a confession to make.
I went out and bought a Tesla yesterday.
I ordered one in support of Elon because I saw that they were, you know, everybody's trashing Tesla.
And I got one.
I give him my wife's Tesla, I gave to my son, and he's very excited about it.
But
he's done so much for the country.
And then if he had have just come by that White House once a month.
But when you knew that he was moving into Mar-Lago and he was over the top and he spent that money, you knew that relationship was not going to last at the same degree of intensity.
And it had the potential.
Now Donald Trump, because Elon is attacking, this is attacking Trump personally by forming the party to hurt him.
So Trump is now speculating out loud, you know, about Elon's companies and his immigration status.
That's just not, it's not helpful for either one of them.
And they should call up and they should have a private summit, and each person should say, Look, here's the parameters.
I'm not going to ever attack you publicly.
You're not going to attack me publicly.
I'm not going to get in the way.
I'm not going to use the office of the presidency to either enhance or detract from Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, X.
And by the same token, I expect you not to go out of your way to hurt us.
And if we can have this relationship, it'll be wonderful.
That's easy to do for normal people, but they're very talented megalomaniacs, you know, and it's going to be very difficult.
And the only people who benefit from all this is the left.
It's a larger question.
You know, Donald Trump has said things in the last 72 hours about going after...
after people, and he doesn't need to do that.
And what it does is it detracts from what the left did to him.
And everybody knows, see what the left says.
Well, Donald Trump said he hates Democrats.
That was today.
He hates Democrats.
Well, they hated him.
He was just honest.
And presidents are not supposed to descend to the level of their opponents, but he does.
And that's fine.
But every single thing that Donald Trump is doing, somebody handed him a precedent on a platter.
So they're all saying, oh, he's going after two of the three networks.
Poor George Stephanopoulos.
George Stephanopoulos lied 11 times and slandered Donald Trump by calling him a rapist.
That's a no-brainer.
And CBS may have affected the election by editing that transcript.
I looked at the Kamala Harris transcript, Jack.
Did you see the question they asked her?
It had nothing to do.
Her answer had nothing to do with it.
They went back in the transcript and then they edited it and plugged answers in to make her look better.
But my point is, who started that?
Well, that was the left and Dominion.
Remember the voting machines?
And they went after Fox News and they got that multi-billion dollar settlement.
And why did they get it?
Because Fox News people like Tucker or Sean or other people suppose or they had guests like Sidney, what's her name, you know, Lynn Wood and his partner who's Sidney Powell, yes, and they went on TV and they said that Dominion was communicating with a communist memorable lab.
So they held Fox liable.
So Trump comes into office and he said, well, they went after Fox because that network hosted people that said things that were derogatory.
So that's a good precedent.
And the same thing about subpoenas and threatening to jail people.
Well, they were the first time they took a presidential person, a former advisor, Peter Navarro.
They shackled him because he didn't obey a congressional.
That's a good precedent.
We can do that.
And then they use, they say, well, he went after Law Fox.
Well, they coordinated Mark Elias and the Sorrels Money PACs coordinated, as we know now, Fannie Willis and Jack Smith and Letita James, probably indirectly e.g.
Carroll, but Alvin Bragg, and they had them all working as lawfarer.
And Trump said, That's a good precedent.
And they just handed it all up to a platter, and then they projected and said, Well, what is he doing?
Well, he's doing what he's replying in kind of what you did.
And you can argue that he shouldn't go down to your level, or you can argue that that's the only thing you understand is somebody who tit-for-tat karma.
Well, they killed the Marcus of Queensbury rules, so why?
We did that.
I think the Republicans are saying we did Marcus of Queensbury rules.
We would rather lose nobly than win ugly.
And that's what we did.
We did that in
2008 with John McCain.
Every time they slurred McCain and said he was senile, he didn't know that he had 11 houses.
He was having an affair.
And then somebody said, Barack Hussein, Obama, then McCain said, please don't say that.
There's no need to put, remember that?
He said, don't you say he played, and they just trashed him.
And then we had Mitt Romney, and they had him.
He was a frat boy hazer.
He put an animal on his car.
He and Paul Ryan took people in wheelchairs and they didn't reply in kind.
They hijacked the debate.
Cindy Crawford, what's her name?
Candy Crawford.
And they hijacked that debate.
Candy Crowley.
Yeah.
Crowley, excuse me.
And they hijacked that debate.
You can go back to
last time the Republicans were like Trump was when they unleashed Lee Outwater, 1988.
They were 17 points behind at the convention.
And by the time they had the Boston Pollution Harbor ad, the tank ad, the Willie Horton ad, that was the end.
And everybody was outraged.
And I guess George H.W.
Bush said, well, I'm never going to do that again.
That was dirty.
That was originally an Al Gore ad.
The Willie Horton, they steals it from Al Gore.
So they did that.
And here's a guy who comes along and said, I don't care if I win ugly.
I just don't want to lose nobly.
And they won two out of the three elections that Trump was in.
So I don't know.
I mean,
they they gave Trump ⁇ they gave they green lighted everything he does, everything he does.
And the executive orders, who said, I have a phone and a pen, and if Congress won't act, I will just use it?
That was Barack Obama.
And who came up the idea of cherry-picking district judges?
It was Barack Obama's people when they were out of power, left when they were out of power.
They did that all the time.
They created that precedent.
And who was the
yes, IRS, Lois Lerner?
and who, and now they're saying, well, Donald Trump is that parade and the flyovers, he's politicized the military.
Just listen to what Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley did.
Mark Milley is on record, you know, calling Donald Trump a fascist.
And he went, called his Chinese communist counterpart to say that his own commander-in-chief was on hinge, basically.
So they politicized that no end on sight.
That's what's ironic about it.
And I don't know why the Trump people don't just say that.
Why don't the Trump people say, if you're upset that what I'm doing right now,
why didn't you get upset when I'm just following the precedent that my predecessors on your side allowed me to do?
I'm just following protocols that you established.
You know, it's very simple.
They said, well, you can't call the Joe Biden ageist.
You can't do this.
You can't say senile.
And Trump said, ah, you know.
They got Bandi, what was her name?
Bandi Yee, the Yale
psychiatrist who's testified before Congress that Donald Trump needed a straitjacket, essentially, that he was crazy.
We had Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, that that we're going to have an intervention to find out if he's crazy on tape this is all what's going it's there is a divine reckoning you know you know every excess there's an answer to it donald trump is the answer to their excesses hopefully we see it more of it in our lifetime hey victor i i do want to drill down a little more on the third-party idea, but first, a message from our sponsors.
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Victor, about the third party, it's one thing to have a de facto independent effort, call it that, but to set up a real party that is going to, you know, act like the Republican Party or the Democrat Party with all the rudiments, state level, local level, et cetera.
I mean, it's just an insanely gargantuan lift.
So that's one thing.
The second thing is Elon Musk said he is going to primary MAGA
incumbents.
Is he going to
primary leftist Democrats?
No.
No, he's not.
It's all designed to punish the Republicans.
And when you read the charter principles of that American party, I couldn't figure out anything that was different than the Libertarian Party.
Sounded almost like every libertarian that runs every year.
Once in a while, they get 2% or 3%, maybe more in 3 or 4% in a particular state.
And some people have argued they've affected the election.
But if it wasn't Elon Musk, and as I said, third parties don't work, but this is not intended to be a permanent third party.
It's just a rubric, just a name for an effort in the midterms and maybe in 2028 to punish the Republican Party.
And I don't know.
And it would, the only problem I have by saying that third parties never work, fourth motor companies never
break into the big three.
NASA has a monopoly.
Nobody in the private sector can outdo NASA.
The idea that you're going to have an independent internet person when you had all of these carriers and they're going to break in.
And everybody said if you pay three times what Twitter is worth, you're going to go broke or it's going to fall apart or the left is all going to leave.
And every time the experts were wrong about Elon Musk.
So I have a little bit of humility and I want to be careful about saying that third party won't work, but I don't think it's his intent.
He's deeply hurt that he feels that he got this Doge super team and at great expense to their reputations and his time.
He went through government and although he didn't get a trillion dollars, he got nearly 200 billion of suggested cuts.
And he gave, what, over $300 million to particular candidates, mostly in swing states, mostly in Pennsylvania.
And he feels that he did a great service to Donald Trump, and he did a great service with Doge.
He did.
And the net result is the left demonized him, and his cars are off by 20% car sales.
And he's taken his eye off the ball.
SpaceX, it hasn't had quite the spectacular success, I think it will again, that it did when we saw that erector set arm catching the booster, the descending booster.
And he feels that he took a big hit and he wasn't appreciated.
And after trying to explain to people that, he took drastic message and he went way overboard with the Epstein reference and that he won Trump the election.
And then Trump replied in kind.
And then he tried to put a peace feeder out and said said he thought he did a little bit over.
And what I'm trying to get at, Jack, if we were to go through a Rolodex of all the different people who thought they were going to take on Donald Trump and ruin them, Liz Cheney, Bill Crystal, John Bolton, Rex Tillertson,
we could go on and on.
We could go, you know, movie stars, Alex.
Baldwin.
I mean,
do you know anybody that came out on top?
No.
I don't.
Donald Trump's strength is he will say anything to anyone, anytime, about anything.
And most people won't do that.
And so they get in this thinking, well, he's president or he's a businessman.
He won't, I can say this.
No, you can't.
The other thing about him they don't understand, if you've been called Hitler and Mussolini for 10 years and they tried to take you off the ballot like they've never done to any other presidential candidate, and you were the object of five different civil and criminal courtroom psychodramas and 93 indictments, And they raided your house and went through your
wife's
underwear drawer and they canceled the credit cards of your wife and son.
And you were almost killed twice.
Why would you hang back?
You know what I mean?
What more can you do to him?
So it's a stupid thing to get into a personal tit-for-tat with Donald Trump because you're going to lose.
And I think the richest man in the history of civilization thought that that were not true.
And I feel really bad, so I felt so bad about it.
Not that I needed a Tesla, but I went out and bought a Tesla to show my
as a sign of an obscure farmer in Selma, California making an appeal to Elon to lick his wounds and be on a workmanlike relationship with Trump.
Well,
when it gets a little old, I hope you give it to me.
Victor.
Although I'm not your son.
Hey, Victor,
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We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen show recording on Sunday, July 6th.
And this episode is up on Tuesday, the
8th.
Is it the 6th today?
It is.
I don't know.
It's the 9th.
I wrote the 9th.
What an idiot.
Please don't take away my July.
I'm sorry, Victor.
How was your 4th of July, by the way, up in the mountains?
Did you have an ice cream?
Well, I had a little setback with my postdoc.
I had an infection and I had some eye problems, and I went up to altitude 7,200 feet to get pure air, but then that was kind of canceled by the pressure up there.
But my wife and I had a really good time.
We didn't ⁇ the one thing that was really frustrating for Californians, we are burdened by every regulation.
So, you know, they passed a new rule that said every single boat owner that gets in a boat and drives it over, I don't know how many feet, 12 feet, 8 feet maybe, has to go be licensed to anywhere, a river or lake.
And then when you go online, you see all these private companies that the state has authorized that you can go on.
And they range from $40 to $80.
And this test
goes from five to six hours.
And it's not like a DMV that we're all familiar, you know, with that.
You can just kind of sleep or watch TV while you're doing it.
It's
this type type of if you hear three blasts, what do you do if you hear two blasts?
What if you what's a yellow flag with a white stripe versus a red stripe and it's hard.
And then you have to take this test, then you have to go get it, pay the state to download it so you can get the license from the state.
And with all the things the sheriffs have to do, and people do you really want to add that whole regulation?
Do you really think it's going to save?
What causes boat accidents are people who are drunk and high.
And why don't you just enforce the laws you have?
But I bet you five bucks, if we went through every single company that's posted online as an acceptable licensing agent, you would find a lot of people that had ties a brother-in-law of the state assistant.
Yes, with the new summer administration or the California legislature.
Also, if you're up there, you, your wife, let's say your son, daughter-in-law, you're all up there.
And they would all, in order to pilot the boat, they would all have to have licenses, right?
They would all have to have to to do this.
I signed up, I think it's five and a half hours.
And like a fool, I just was kind of half asleep doing the first hour session, and I flunked it.
So I had to go back and do it again that session.
But there's six of them, I think.
It's going to take me six hours.
And there's a time, I think you only have 30 days or 40 days once you pay your money.
Yeah.
And it's not going to reduce, if he really wants to reduce deaths in California due to accidents, Gavin, the 99, the I-5, the 101, there are four lanes, only two in each direction in places that are very, very dangerous.
The Monterey Corridor, gosh, Delano to
Tulare,
seven or eight bottlenecks on the 99.
All of I-5, basically from San Luis all the way down to LA is only two lanes in each direction.
Why don't you just do that and save people's lives rather than come up with this little stupid idea that you're going to make every single boat driver in the entire state have a license?
And what are the sheriffs going to do?
I mean, I talked to one person.
He says, if you're down at one lake where it's really crowded, it's easy to enforce.
If you're up at another lake where you are now, they're not going to enforce it.
That's just folk wisdom.
With night luck, I would go on the boat, I would pull out for five minutes, and then somebody would flag me over.
Well, hopefully that'd be a fan podcast, Victor, and they would cut you some slack.
So let's go to my native city, Victor, Victor, if you don't mind.
Ronx.
Here's a headline from the New York Post, I believe yes Saturday.
Black New Yorkers rage over Mamdani's quote-unquote African-American claim.
And here's how the article begins.
Black New York isn't buying it.
A slew of Big Apple residents fumed Friday over mayoral frontrunner Zoran Mamdani's claim on an Ivy League college application that he is African America.
With them raging, the socialist pal is a fraud and trickster.
Quote, he's just trying to get over, end quote.
An 86-year-old Harlem resident, identifying herself only as Marjorie, said Mondami, a socialist of Asian Indian descent.
Mondami, a democratic socialist, has checked off the box black or African-American and that and Asian boxes on his 2009 Columbia University application regarding his race, the New York Times reported.
Okay, Victor.
I don't understand what he thought he was going to do.
I mean, he's a Marxist-communist.
He's the son of wealthy, a filmmaker and a a professor.
He's a child of privilege.
He's never really had a normal job.
He's in his 30s, and he has a long record.
Well, he said, I never said I wanted to defund the police.
He said that so many times.
X is just full of people with direct quotes and postings from him.
He's just a pathological liar.
He said, I'm going to go after richer and whiter neighborhoods.
And as I said last time on the podcast, if you look at any survey of per capita family income, Indian people from India, Indian Americans, not Native Americans, but people from India have the highest per capita income.
And there's a huge Indian American community, as you know, Jack.
So why didn't he just say, statistically, I'm going to go after richer people and I'll start with Indian Americans because they're the richest.
But he didn't say that.
He said white because he's worried about Eric Adams, who's going to get the black vote and the Hispanic vote.
Especially now, as you pointed out, that he lied.
And that was, as I I said earlier, that was the oldest trick in the book.
I've been in academia so long, I've canceled so many people going to graduate school, and I've had so many people who were foreign students or from the Arab communities or Coptic communities, and they have told me, well, I was, you know, my family is from Morocco.
I'm going to say I'm African American.
I said, it won't work.
At least it didn't work then because it was affirmative action.
Then when Obama refashioned that as DEI and said anybody who's not white is a victim, that might have worked, but that's probably what he thought.
But then, you know, all of that stuff, you know, he's going to say, he said he wants to seize the means of production.
I said to myself, what do you mean by that?
How?
You're just going to take it?
Are you going to tax it 99%, a wealth tax?
Are you going to
dox people who are wealthy and unleash the Bastille mob on them?
Are you going to go after Trump Tower, Tesla?
What's your priority?
Who do you go after first?
George Sorrels?
I doubt it.
And then just today, Doc, there were two more, three more studies.
Alwaukee, remember that American citizen that Obama offed without a trial, he was a radical ISIS member?
There's a report coming out, I think it's in the New York Post, that said that he tried to defend him, not the fact that he was a citizen who was killed without habeas corpus or due process, but that he was a radical ISIS member, and he was.
And then there was another
story.
that said, and again, I haven't confirmed this.
I'm just reading it.
So until I see it in six or seven different news accounts, but it just broke today that he posted or he trafficked in a video of Indian Americans dressed up as Hasidic Jews and kind of rapping about Hanukkah.
And that's another one.
And so whether he was trying to fake it out like he was a black person or whether he was attacking Jews or making fun of them, he sounds like a child, a spoiled little brat that thought he was a rapper and he did all these videos and he was overexposed and then he ran for office and he's outraged that anybody would do to him what he does to other people.
Does that mean he's not going to win?
Not necessarily because everything I just outlined is probably a recommendation for his constituency to come out and vote for him.
Right.
So the only way that they're going to stop him is they're going to have to get Cuomo, who's an egomaniac, and Eric Adams, who's an egomaniac, and Silwa, who I like, but is an egomaniac.
And they're going to have to get them all three together and they're going to have to say, one of you, whoever is polling the highest, is going to, the other two are going to, I know that will be Joe Biden election rigging, maybe, but otherwise he's going to win.
Yeah.
And
why can't New York be Detroit?
I know Detroit is supposed to be.
It will be.
I think it's becoming that way now.
Yeah.
You know, once upon a time, Victor, when we went through this 50 years ago, 40 plus years ago, New York circling the drain, you did have industry bases that had to be there.
I mean, Wall Street had to be there.
There was still some manufacturing.
The media was was there.
This is all pre-bandwidth.
Once bandwidth happens, a lot of these places, first of all, there's no manufacturing left.
And everyone else can like, so long, see you later.
Why wouldn't Miami become the new banking of the East Coast?
Well, what kind of financial or North Carolina, North Carolina, Charlotte?
Yeah.
It's got a lot less taxes.
It's got a lot less regulation.
It's got a lot better climate.
And New York, I went there the first time I was 18, and I was a summer, my first year in college, and a professor said, if you're going to get four years of Latin and Greek, you're going to have to go to summer school.
So go to the Yale Intensive Summer School.
So I did for 10 weeks.
And one weekend on my own, I thought, I've never been to New York.
So I took the train.
It was 1972.
Thomas Eagleton had just announced that he had psychic shock treatment, and they were looking for Sergeant Schreiber or somebody to take his place.
McGovern was.
Anyway, I went there, and that was the most seedy, dirty Times Square I can ever remember.
I got off, I got out, and I walked up there, and about five people came up and asked me if I wanted sex from somebody, if I wanted drugs, if I it was sordid.
And then, you know, I didn't really go much, but when I went under Giuliani, I would be doing a fox thing, and they'd say, well, the fox car will come and get you.
And I'd say, why would they have to come and get me at the hotel?
It's only 15 blocks.
So I would do a late fox, and I walked 15 blocks, and everybody was out.
You know what I mean?
In the 90s, they were all out.
It was lit up.
Hi, how are you?
There was no crime.
It was like a night and day.
And then they went, they took that and they just destroyed it.
And then you're right.
They've turned it into Detroit.
Well,
it really could circle a drain.
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Victor, two quick things about Bakan Mondami and the broader question is that this seems, again, to make the point that Shelby Steele and others have made for years that affirmative action has, at its core, been a racket for white liberals and leftists.
And this also shows this propensity amongst the left to steal things.
We have here stolen race,
stolen valor, and then stolen sex, you know, by Leah Thomas and others.
You know, they just, they just, they're thieves in every which way.
Anyway, any thoughts on any of that?
If not,
we'll move on.
Except they say you can construct your sex, but they don't say you can construct your race.
So if a man is born biologically like Leah, quote, Leah, unquote, Thomas, and he says, well, I'm a mediocre swimmer and I have sort of feminine qualities, so I declare myself a constructed female.
And then if you don't accept that, then you're a bigot.
So
Momdami, to take one example, says, I am an Indian American, but I'm going to construct myself as a black person.
But we don't allow that.
And the question is, does Mondami, who has black hair and black beard, would he be closer to being black than Leah Thomas would be to a woman?
I think so.
And so the point is, it's all hypocritical, but it has one common theme, that certain people who feel that they don't have the qualifications to do something want an edge.
And all affirmative action was, was the bookend to white networking.
I'm I'm not talking about Asian students in general or poor kids from Bakersfield that were merocratic.
I'm talking about the old boy network, the professor's son, the president's son that didn't have the qualifications.
Maybe their parents did or and they used money or influence.
And then the white bicoastal elite said, we feel kind of bad, but not bad enough to give it up.
So what we're going to do, we're going to allow blacks and Hispanics to have the same type of insider non-merocratic advantage that we wealthy white people do.
Now, we've got to explain this, so how we're going to get away with it.
So, we're going to say that they have been victims of systemic racism for years.
Slavery, Jim Crow, in case of Hispanics, the Zusu riots in L.A., 40s.
And somebody did that, but it wasn't us.
It was those awful people from East Palestine, Ohio.
Those awful garbage dregs, chumps of Joe Biden, those awful irredeemables, deplorables of Hillary Clinton, and the awful clingers of Borocco.
And that's what happened.
And so the people who lost out on it were, I don't know, the white working class that didn't have any money, it didn't have any influence, didn't have any contacts, but there were very talented people among them that were self-motivated, they studied hard, and they applied to college, and they were deemed a white oppressor.
Not the wealthy person who had everything going for them, who said, yes, there are white oppressors, but not me.
It's him.
It's him.
He's the guy that voted.
Or there's the guy that voted for Donald Trump.
Those are the guys that are right-wing.
Those are the guys with a southern accent.
Those are the guys that work in factories.
Those are the guys with the beer guts.
Or is that famous exchange from Peter Stroke and Lisa Page?
I went into Walmart and I could smell them.
So that's what it's all about.
And that's why they should abolish all of it.
And I'm perfectly happy.
I think all of our listeners are perfectly happy.
And if you're going to get rid of affirmative action and these corrupt universities and they shouldn't sell admissions either by charging 10 or 12 million for a legacy or giving somebody extra just get rid of it and make it merocratic but that's a larger question jack there's an article by peter berkowitz in today's real clear politics that he talks about a discussion
sorry i get animated when i talk about universities i'm sure peter berkowitz was uh will be excited to see you got so animated talking about his piece.
I'm a little dizzy, too.
We had Larry Summers and Ross Duthot.
Is that how you put it?
I'd say Dothett.
Yeah, Dothett.
Ross.
He and another person, Frank Mealy or somebody.
I don't know who the other one was.
No, not him, another person.
All on the liberal side except Ross, who's centrist.
And they were talking.
I was surprised that.
Larry Summers was basically saying, I don't like the way Trump's doing it, but the universities deserve it.
And so what I'm getting at is if I, again, I keep saying that, if I was Stanford, if I was the UC system, if Columbia, Princeton's going that way, you better settle because people don't know what you do.
And
you have defied the Supreme Court now.
You're on record of breaking the law.
You have race-based admissions, hiring, retention.
You have race-based graduations, theme houses, you call segregated dorms.
You've been gouging us at 55, 60% of federal grants.
You have not given due process and protection for anybody on your campus that is accused of sexual assault.
Even if he did that, they have a right under the Constitution.
And more importantly, you don't respect free speech and you don't believe in diversity.
95% of your faculty is left-wing.
So just settle.
As far as your big esteemed endowments, do you understand what's coming down the line?
You're going to pay, according to the reconciliation, Jack,
the House wanted 21%, but I guess the low number is still 8%.
That's billions of dollars out of higher education on the endowment.
That's on top of the 15% limit on surcharges.
And that's going to cost these Ivy League schools a half a billion, a billion a year.
And they brag about their endowments, but like we've said on many occasions, the money is either targeted or it has never been liquidized.
And so there was a good article.
in the Wall Street Journal, and another person wrote and said, you know, a lot of these institutions brag about their endowments, but until you actually get the money, and, you know, you're talking about, I don't know, half a trillion dollars probably nationwide.
And you start taking that money out and trying to liquidize it because it's tied up.
And when you add on the taxes, these new taxes on endowment income, they're going to be in big financial trouble.
And it's only going to get worse and they're going to have no empathy.
And more importantly, they have lost a lot of their constituents.
A lot of Asian students, a lot of Jewish students, they're going to places in the South where they know they're not politicized and they're safe or they're merucratic.
So if you're going to go code, go to Georgia Tech or SMU or someone like that, Texas A ⁇ M, you'll get a better education than you will be at these Ivy League.
It'll be safer.
You won't have to put up with a lot of foreign students that are demonstrated.
You won't have to have these spoiled brat kids, their legacies, as many.
And so they don't know what they're doing.
They're like blindfolded walking off a cliff, and they're so arrogant and they've been so protected and they're so insular that they don't understand that they don't have any cards to play the latest poll has them about 35 percent approval of higher education and
yeah cornell is about to take uh take a beating also you know there was an there was a thing today was it in fox or about new york post the dartmouth riots of may 2nd you know on dartmouth when there was the pro-hamas riot they put all the pictures of those kids in there and it was almost like a textbook a lot of them were from the Middle East, but a lot of them were very wealthy kids.
And they go and this rite of passage.
And so I think Trump just said, if they're going to turn out left-wing people and move the country left in a way that the majority of the people don't want, that's fine, but we're not going to pay for it.
And they don't get it.
Claudine Gay, you know, she gets up there in that Inquisition this was.
They really tore her apart, but it was like.
Well, whether we enforce that, it depends on the context.
And you're thinking, you're a plagiarizer and you're president of Harvard Harvard and you have never paid the price.
And after you resign under pressure, you're going to never pry the price because you guys protect your own if you if you hit the right button.
You have
plagiarizer.
Yeah.
She plagiarized and she should have been fired.
You know, Vic, there's something philosophical about endowments and the obsession of them.
I mean, you have to have, you should have an endowment, but the obsession to supersize them.
It almost, you know, if the institution itself was doing its
mission and truly educating and being a good thing, then it would not have to obsess about future funding because it would have faith that the new alumni would treat the institution like the old alumni did and would give.
And in the giving, these enormous endowments could be spent now to make education much more affordable, et cetera.
And have faith that you're such a good institution that the money will keep coming.
But they're doing very good in that.
When I was a point, I won't mention names, but when I was appointed to my present job, most of the senior fellows are endowed.
So somebody I thought endowed it.
So this philanthropist who was a wonderful person, everything about him, I'll just mention his name, Martin Anderson, not the Martin Anderson government.
He was just a saint.
And he said, I see you've been at the Hoover.
I want to talk to you.
And I said, okay.
And he said, I'm willing to chip in as every senior fellow is endowed, but I'm not going to endow it.
And I don't want to put my capital in something something that's permanent.
And I don't know after I'm gone how it will be used.
I won't make a annual contribution to your compensation.
And I said, well, why would you want to do that?
I mean, why would you want to help me?
Is it something I wrote?
I said, nope.
And he said, you've got three things going for you.
You're Swedish like me.
I'm a Marine combat veteran who was at Choice Island, and you're named after a Marine who was killed on Okinawa.
But I said, I didn't do it.
He said, it doesn't matter.
And he said, I have family in the San Joaquin Valley.
And you punched all three buttons.
And as long as I'm alive, and he passed away.
But the point he was trying to teach me was: I was only 49, and he said, when you endow something, you lose complete control over it.
They'll tell you something, but how it will be used decades.
And you see all these professors.
It's so funny, Jack, when I see all these radical professors and I look at the names, you know, the Jack Thompson professor of humanistic studies, and you go out and look at the person he's named after,
that person's worldview has nothing to do with what the money has just been misappropriated.
So it would be much better if the donors follow that precedent, that they want to endow a professor, they'll say, I have a 10-year contract and I will do it, predicated on if they follow the rules of the university or something that I agree with.
There's a trust but verify aspect to that.
To close this out, there's a guy called up National Review one day when I was still there, and he had gone to Holy Cross.
And coincidentally, I picked up and he said, i want to fund a chair in national at at holy cross for bill buckley and i my immediate instinct was what i i said to him are you crazy i mean they will first of all you'll die someday and you won't know what the hell's going on but they'll take your money and then they'll put a communist note they will i've had i've had people call me i've had four or five people in my life call me and say i wish i really had done some research because the person that's my name chair is it is a marxist yeah i said they're all marxists basically.
All this stuff is coming, it's all coming like a perfect storm to the university.
It's segregation.
It's racial prejudice.
It's defying the Supreme Court.
It is shady bookkeeping on grants.
It is these enormous endowments are kind of fraudulent.
What Harvard or Yale or Stanford says they have, they really don't have.
It's like a guy who says, I have a 10 million 401k.
And then all of a sudden somebody said, you just got sued for five million well you have ten million he tries to take out five million no you don't have five million and a lot of that stuff is tied up in speculative real estate and long-term cds with penalties and stocks and they don't have a lot of discretionary income and they rely on the interest on the endowment which will now be taxed in part and annual giving which their publicity is negative and that's going to scare off a lot of people and there's another thing that no one talks about, but I have talked to a lot of people because I've had to do a lot of fundraising the last two years.
If your child, if you're in Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Flamford, I don't know, alumnus, and you want your child to go there, and from an early age, he was in the Harvard child prodigy camp, you know, five, and they have such things.
And he did everything that you wanted.
He got a perfect SAT score.
He got 4.5 with advanced placement.
You sent him to Ghana to build water wells in the summer so he could help the poor.
And he applied and didn't get in?
You're not going to give any more to that place.
You are not going to.
And so they have so many people that they have excluded on the basis of race.
These people are had it with them.
And
I'm not talking about the people who pay $10 million or $20 million.
I'm talking about affluent people who can't afford $10 million, which is, I hear, $10 to $15 million is if your child's qualified and he's white, that's what it takes to get a fair hearing.
I'm being a little bit cynical, of course.
I remember the actresses who went to jail to get their kids into some of the California schools, right?
That was bogus.
Half a million to 700, something like that.
What was it?
Sailing scholarship.
Or crew, something.
Yeah, something like that.
So
megaphone on the crew.
Somebody's got it.
Anyway, it's a corrupt situation.
And you know what's the good thing about it?
Peter Burkitwitz is a very astute writer.
And he wrote this essay about this discussion about higher education.
And he made the point, or he reflected what people were saying, is that the brand itself is being tarnished.
And the biggest beneficiaries are, I wish I could say, in deference to you, they were Catholic or religiously themed university, but that's not true, as you know, because there's only a few
Catholic
St.
Thomas Aquinas, et cetera, et cetera.
But what they were saying is we might have reached peak Harvard, and that brand no longer means anything.
If you've gone 20 years with DEI and affirmative action, and you've accelerated it to an insane commissariat degree after 2020, then you put thousands of people out into the workplace that by your own admissions did not meet the standards that you used to institute across the board, and you did it for a purpose.
You did it to show employers and government that your graduates, in terms of computation skills, analytical, historical knowledge, oral and written fluency were so superb to get through and get a BA through your rigorous curriculum by world-class scholars.
But if you take that, that brand, and then you destroy it and you let in people who have not met those requirements, then the faculty either has to inflate the grades, which they did, or lower the workload, which they did, or make new gut courses, which they did.
And the net result is for many years now, you've sent out people.
You should read the comments on some of these articles about higher education.
They're from people who hired these kids.
I was reading them today and they're going like, oh, I hired two kids from blank school and I had to get rid of them both.
They were just troublemakers.
So the point I'm saying is that they've taken that brand and demonstrated to employers and prestigious law firms or medical associates that their name doesn't mean anything and they've been using the fumes of it.
The creator of the fumes no longer exists.
So, what's going to happen?
I think they're going to be put out of business.
And that's sad, but it's going to happen unless they have a - they got to get some - they got to get about 10 presidents that are, you know, like a John Silber or something.
John Silber.
Yeah, 35, and they got to go in there and just clean house and get back to the original mission statement.
And I don't think you could do that.
Donald Trump was the president of a university.
That's kind of what they need.
By the way, that piece is called Reforming Higher Education Reform by Peter Berkowitz on Real Clear Politics.
Victor, one last thing before we go to the break, and then we'll get one more topic in for today's show.
When you're talking about the funding tied up, it just reminded me of George Bailey when there's the run on the bank and the run on the morning.
No, I don't have all the cash here.
It's in your house.
It's in your house.
It's your house.
Yeah, it's funny you meant that because
as I was recuperating, I was trying to write, but I had this infection.
And I was watching,
and did you see the other night?
You know how they run thematically on Turner?
Did you see Mr.
Deeds goes to town and meet John Doe?
Meet John Doe.
I saw Mr.
Deeds like three weeks ago.
Yeah, I just saw Meet John Doe.
Yeah.
And of course, Mr.
Smith goes to Washington.
Yeah.
And I didn't realize, Meet John Doe got an Academy Award for Best Picture.
It's very sad because those pictures from 1935 to 40 were the most popular pictures.
And Frank Cowper was the, he was
that.
But then with World War II, you know, there was a more sophisticated and the film Noir, the anti-hero.
Right.
His last great film, which was his best, I think, is The Wonderful Life.
But I didn't realize it did so dismally at the box office.
When it came out, yeah,
it was a flop.
I think
it's a brilliant piece of filmmaking.
Oh, it is.
Yeah.
You know, he always has the big, it's kind of like John Ford, too, with the movies.
They have these crowd scenes constantly, and Capra has several of them in in most of the movies um and it's the pop you know the greek chorus is is in there i love his movies yeah i i like him i like ila kazan i was watching on the waterfront the other day eva marie saint there's something about her she was just stunning yeah i don't know i mean i know she didn't have that classic look like ava garden or elizabeth taylor but no when she was in north by northwest beautiful she was beautiful she's still alive so i think she is
she's a i really like her i've always liked her she was my favorite actress.
I really thought she was wonderful.
All those movies, I mean, I was thinking of all those George Stevens, gosh, and William Wyler, Best Years of Our Life.
All of them.
I have to tell you.
I'm never going to have people of that talent again.
Yeah, it's
we missed the golden age, but thank God for Turner.
It's still there.
Two things.
One is I have two ties, personal ties on the waterfront.
The priest in the movie, that's a Carl Malden.
Well, he was based on a real priest, John Carl.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, a Jesuit who had tried to clean up the waterfront.
And he went to my
high school in Anthony Fox High School.
But he worked for what was called the Xavier Institute of Industrial Relations.
And the Jesuits were trying to create this Catholic counterforce to the communists who were trying to run the waterfront.
So Father Carey ran the Xavier Institute, and he was a dear friend of the family.
And then the second thing in the movie, you know, part of the scene, there's a wedding at a bar where, where, and the bride, Mrs.
Garvey, in real life, she was a friend and a family friend.
Yeah, and she came by National Review one day.
She used to be an editor for Oxford University Press.
And she, little sweet lady, she came by one day, said, let's go have a drink.
So
I went to the bar on the third and 35th of the year.
I didn't realize, I just looked at characterizations of my law.
I didn't realize how brilliant Lee J.
Cobb and Rod Steiger were.
They were great.
Yes.
They were really.
Carl Malden is kind of, he was like Eli Wallach, character actors.
And I think they each, didn't they live in their mid-90s, 80s?
He did.
They were both indestructible.
They were both brilliant character actors.
I think Carl Malden ended up better.
I think he always overplayed it a little in the movies, but in the streets of San Francisco, the TV series, he was terrific in that.
This whole question.
He was the villain.
Remember, there was a weird Marlon Brando flop that I really liked it.
It was a Western called One-Eyed Jax, and Carl Malden was dad, they called him.
He was evil in that.
And Marlon Brando comes back to kill him.
Yeah, a little out of character there.
Hey, people, thanks for letting me reminisce.
I love when you reminisce about movies, Victor.
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One more movie thing.
I just have to say, I saw Night of the Hunter last night, which was a terrible bomb when it came out.
But in, oh my gosh, it's a long time.
It has been in a long time.
It's fantastic.
Okay.
What should we talk about?
Oh, let's talk about, let's end this show today with talking about Medicaid fraud.
So there was a hearing the other day, and this has to do with the CBO Congressional Budget Office estimates.
And of course, Democrats are saying these big, beautiful bill, Medicaid, they're gonna people are gonna die, they're gonna starve, etc., etc.
Here, the guy who testified said, Here are some of the numbers.
It's staggering.
Who's gonna get kicked off, Victor?
There's 12 million people total.
4.8 million are able-bodied adults without dependents who choose not to meet modest work requirements.
1.4 million are illegal immigrants.
1.6 have access to other insurance.
1.3 are already ineligible and shouldn't be on it in the first place.
1.8 million on Obamacare are illegal immigrants.
And finally, 1.1 million are absolute fraudsters.
This is 12 million people.
I mean,
this is a massive fraud operation.
There's 40 million people in California, and 40% of them are on Medi-Cal.
And 50% of all babies are born on Medi-Cal.
When I go to the supermarket, supermarket, I beat that horse to death.
But it's not just that the majority of people ahead of me are in Medi-Cal, but
the cards that they give, the WIC, women, infant children, or the electric bank transfer credit cards.
The old days, at least you had to have these kind of Confederate dollars, remember food stamps?
Well, today they're just credit cards.
But the number of people I would say that present a card and then it's rejected is 50%.
And I think the number of cards that are produced are about three or four.
And my experience just watching people.
And so what the left does, though, is
they vastly expand the roles and they vastly expand the budget and then they set into motion periodic hikes.
And then when Trump came in or any Republican, if they say we're not going to increase by 20%, we're going to increase by, that's a cut.
So any slowing down of the enlargement, I think Mediquel was five times, or it's double, excuse me, than it was just five or six years ago.
The labor participation rate is only 62%.
So that's not going to work.
I don't understand the Democrats.
Maybe their propaganda is going to be more effective, but trying to suggest that you shouldn't go after people who are illegal or able-bodied and they're taking money from people who need it or all these deportations of people who are criminals doesn't make any sense.
Well, Victor, i want to let me just throw in one last thing we were talking before about new york and this is funny i think the mayor of dallas who is uh
eric johnson i remember him he's black he's a former democrat yeah in 2023 he did that after opposing a city council tax hike well this is according to the center square he reported he sent out a note dear concerned new york city resident or business owner don't panic just move to dallas where we strongly support our police value our partners in the business community, embrace free markets, shun excessive regulation, and protect the American dream.
A big city in a state with no income tax run by a black Republican, I don't know, sounds kind of appealing, you know, doesn't that force
and that there's another, isn't Myrtle Beach now the big retirement place in South Carolina?
It was kind of like a New Jersey, you know, like the boardwalk, and now it's been upscaled.
The point I'm making is that this is one of the greatest transformations in American history that south of the Mason-Dixon line, where per capita income, GDP, state, everything was below, given the Civil War and the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow and agrarianism versus the modernistic
Yankee New England or Midwest.
It's all flipped.
It's all flipped.
The center of dynamism, of population growth, of GDP is all in Florida, Tennessee, Texas.
And everybody thought we're going to be the blue state.
It was the Pacific, Seattle, Oregon, California, and then the East Coast Strip, and then the Midwest around the Great Lakes.
It's all stagnated, and people are going.
I don't know when it's ever going to stop.
Yeah,
I think, Victor,
there's a thought.
Well, it'll get so bad, people will come to their senses, but people don't always come to their senses.
I mean, you were in a book.
They do, but it's too.
I mean, the emperor,
the last palaeologist in 1453, came to his senses and he said, this used to be 1.4 million people, and we have 50,000 residents, and half of Constantinople is open fields, and we only have 7,000 people on the walls.
And the army out there is 200,000.
Come to your senses.
When did the mayor of Detroit come to his sense?
When did St.
Louis, Gary, Indiana?
When did we
have Willie Brown?
We have Gadman Newsome.
We had Jerry Brown.
and now we have a moderate Democrat, and look what he's got to work with.
And the budget, the budget is just the blue state model doesn't work.
It's an aging population, it's a huge underclass, it is an understaffed, it's pension, the pensions are not sustainable, the taxes and regulations are so high, no business wants to locate there.
The climate is not all that great, except for the Pacific coast.
But even places like
that used to be part of the red state model, like Arizona and Colorado and Nevada, are starting to hemorrhage because they're purple states.
They haven't gone full blue state.
They have ruined Minnesota.
They probably almost ruined Michigan.
They ruined parts of much of Wisconsin.
They
tried to ruin Pennsylvania.
They have the on-mitas touch.
Everything the left does gives turns to draw us.
Give us your illegal aliens.
We'll put them on hotels.
We want more federal funds.
Half people on Medi-Cal.
How dare you do that?
We got all these new constituents.
Mayor Johnson's a wonderful guy in Chicago.
8% approval rating.
What a disaster.
Oh, Victor, you've been terrific as ever.
I'm glad to see you're surviving at least.
I know this is an ongoing struggle for you, but
it's cricketer than I thought it would be.
Well,
you'll get there.
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Thank you.
Victor, I have a couple of notes I want to read.
There's so many comments, so blank and many on YouTube now.
Thank folks that do that.
I'm trying to plow through them and read them.
I'm going to read a few.
I'm going to call this the Great Sammy Wink Comment-a-thon from Capped4550.
Love your show and your insight, Victor.
I so enjoy it when Sammy hosts.
From United States Dale, he writes, just simply, the great Sammy Wink.
And Stevies4784 writes, thank you, Sammy.
I really appreciate how you let Victor talk.
Your cohort sometimes talks too much.
Talks too loud.
So thank you, Victor, for letting you for letting Victor complete his thoughts.
One more.
One more.
This was
from the 4th of July.
Jill Clark 6076 wrote, Happy 4th of July, VDH and Sammy.
I got ready for our barbecue listening to the best podcast on America, in America.
Thank you very much.
That's very nice.
There's so many nice people writing so many wonderful things.
You know, I'll just finish.
I had an anecdote.
I was up in the mountains and a person came up to me and he said, did they buy you off?
I said, what did you mean?
And he said, we haven't heard you lately.
And I said, yeah, we haven't missed a podcast.
And he said, no, no, I haven't heard you.
I thought they just finally got to you and they bought you off.
I said, we're doing four podcasts a week i haven't missed one i even did it the day after my operation and we do i do five for the daily signal i have not missed one since january one but i have missed uh a lot of fox
because i had you know when you you don't want to go on there when you might sneeze and i had some eye problems so it knows what uh
yeah you don't want to go so i but i might go on tomorrow night so we'll see okay well but we have not my point is we have not been bought off Yeah, who, by whom?
I mean, I was wondering the powers that be.
Who's the hey?
Somebody, somebody actually, somebody wrote a comment somewhere, Victor, that said,
I thought that was so funny.
This was a negative comment.
You were a suck up to Israel and Turkey.
I'm thinking, have they ever heard Victor talk about Turkey?
No, I have not been very.
I visited there a lot.
I like the Turkish people.
Very honest.
I'll leave it at that.
Yes, I'll leave it at that.
Okay, Victor, you've been wonderful.
Thanks for all the wisdom you shared.
Thanks, folks, for listening and viewing.
And we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis-Hanson Show.
Bye-bye.
Thank you, everybody, for listening and viewing.