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Hello, ladies.

Hello, gentlemen.

This is the Victor Davis-Hansen Davis Show.

I'm Jack Fowler, the host.

We are recording on Saturday, November 23rd.

The star of the show, as you know, is Victor Davis-Hanson, who is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marshabuski Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

He has a website, The Blade of Perseus.

Its address is victorhanson.com.

Later in this podcast, I will tell you why I think you should be subscribing to that.

Victor,

copy nothing, copy nothing.

This show, what are we going to start off with?

We're going to talk about this: copy nothing, break molds, create exuberant,

and delete ordinary.

I hope you're ready for it, Victor.

I am.

I am ready for anything.

Good.

We're going to get to it.

You're talking, Jack.

You're talking to somebody who laid down 105,000 trays on September 21st of 1983 and nice, beautiful grape trays, 23 pounds.

And

24 hours later, there was a hurricane that rained two inches on them.

Oh, yeah.

You talked about that once.

Yeah.

Grape raising catastrophe.

So I've done

somebody.

I thin fertilized, put about $10,000 in four acres of Santa Rosa plums.

They were the most beautiful plums I'd ever seen.

When does it ever hail in California in late May?

Hail came.

I swear to the Almighty, the cloud came right over our farm.

It was clear everywhere around and it hailed for 10 minutes and ruined the whole crop.

It's kind of hard to

do.

So I'm ready for anything.

I remember, well, let me tell you, the second podcast we ever did, you did it, I think, with 104 fever after you came out from under your house.

I was really ill.

I had some kind of histamine problem.

I didn't know.

I had been going to the emergency room.

I didn't know what it was.

And then I got it diagnosed and went on a diet and medication.

It's fine.

Well, you're indestructible, Victor.

No, I'm not indestructible.

We all know who is indestructible, Donald J.

Trump.

You cannot

give him a heart attack.

You cannot McDonald him to death.

You cannot Haagendoss him to death.

You cannot shoot him.

You cannot bankrupt him.

You cannot lawfare him.

You cannot impeach him.

You cannot convict him.

You can't do anything to them.

And

he is the agent of returning normalcy.

Insanity.

He's our agent of

normality.

Oh, Mama Mia.

Well, we're going to get to the, we will talk about that later in the show, but

we're going to talk about cars when we come back from these important messages.

We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

Victor, before I stumble into the next, the first topic, I have to say this last night, so it's Saturday, the 23rd of November, and I'm in Connecticut.

And Hillsdale College has a place upstate Connecticut.

It's called the Blake Center.

The founder of the restaurant chain, Northeast Restaurant Chain, Friendlies, I think there's only one or two left, but the guy made a lot of dough.

He also created a replica of Monticello and then his estate left it to Hillsdale.

And Hillsdale has used it for this center where professors come and gather a crowd from New England and they talk about interesting topics.

I've gone there several times.

So anyway, I was there last night and a couple of people approached me kind of sheepishly and just huge fans fans of yours and the podcast.

Are you that?

You're that?

Jack, you can tell, you don't have to be

falsely modest.

They went up to you and said, Jack, you are a rock star hero.

Yeah, right.

Maybe a pebble star.

Anyway, I told Cheryl and Paul Elmore, who are just,

they worship VDH, that I would give them kudos.

So that is done and was great to talk to them.

There's something about the Hillsdale people, because I give an annual lecture there every year.

They are the supporters of Hillsdale College from the Midwest, especially.

They are the soul of the earth.

They're the most hardworking, patriotic, law-abiding, smart, creative people I've ever met.

And

the other type of people who I was in Home Depot yesterday, Jack.

And I've been.

You're always there.

I know it.

Well, I live in a 150-year-old house, so give me a break.

But I have fixing a doorknob and a latch.

And I needed some screws that didn't.

And I went in and a Mexican-American woman, about 60, came up to me and said,

you know what she said?

She said,

she said, fellow,

fellow Trumper,

fellow Trumper.

She yelled out, fellow Trumper.

And I turned around and she goes, oh my gosh.

And I said, you know, I have another person who said he voted for El Trumpo.

A friend of mine called me up and he had been drinking.

He said, I'm for El Trumpo.

And

we had a good conversation about

the Mexican-American community in the San Joaquin Valley.

And she

went on a tirade about the coastal representation of Mexican-American, just what we've been talking about, and how everybody she knows voted for Trump, which begs a question, how is the left going to readdress that?

It's going to be very strange.

Because I know the left.

I know them.

I spent my life working with them.

They're not going to reach out to the Hispanic community, Mexican-American, whatever term we use.

They're not going to say, look,

we understand that abortion to the moment of birth is bad, and we're not going to support that anymore.

We understand that when, you know, 12 million people come in illegally, they end up in your communities.

They affect your schools, your health, and we're sorry about about that's not going to happen we understand that when we bring in gangs in venezuela they end up in your community we're not going to do they're not going to do that they're going to keep doing

you people don't know it's good for you you people right we are sophisticated we understand you know what's the matter with kansas mentality and you better get right and if you don't get right we're going to shut that border down that's what they're probably going to say well let's talk let's let's talk about one of the topics we were going to bring up that's since you brought this up, they're doubling down, essentially, and they'll triple down.

Denver Mayor Mike Johnson.

Denver has 40,000 illegal aliens there.

The elections have happened.

What is Johnson's reaction?

He's calling on the citizens of Denver to help block

importation.

That's insurrection.

That is exactly what South Carolina did in 1832.

They said, we are not going to obey federal tariffs.

We're not going to level them.

And we want our people.

That's exactly what they did in 1859 and 60s and many of the right before the Civil War.

They began announcing that federal armories post-op were not the federal government's property.

So these people and didn't they they

compared themselves to Tinnemann Square?

Yeah, he wants them out in force on the

boundaries to prevent what yeah, think about that.

Donald Tronal Trump coming in?

Yeah, Donald Trump is a mass murdering Mao Zaitong type of government.

And all of these people are dissidents.

And

the irony is that the only way that the city of Denver can feed and house these immigrants is to get federal funds.

And all he should do is any

jurisdiction, there's 600,000 of them, who says we're going to nullify

just like our Confederate ancestors, we're going to nullify federal law because we are morally superior to the federal government.

So we're going to not enforce federal immigration law.

And he should say, everybody has a choice.

If that's your choice, Mr.

Mayor, Mr.

Johnson, I admire your integrity and your courage.

And here's what's going to happen.

You're not going to get one penny of federal funds to house your immigrants.

And if you continue to do it each week, we're going to have another federal program you're not going to get because you don't like the federal government.

You don't expect it.

So you're not going to get federal highway funds the next week federal education just keep going and tell me how when you want to stop and that's what he should do

and uh

this um these people don't understand that

you know they keep saying trump didn't get a mandate he didn't get 51 of the vote

uh

obama in 2000

12 got more electoral votes.

No, it's 2008, excuse me.

But every one of his issues, every one of his issues, border crime, economy, foreign policy, got overwhelming, 65%.

He was on the right side.

It was a mandate.

They wanted a dispopular disruptor.

And you wrote that, Jack, in your column about National Review and William Buckley, which we'll get to.

But they wanted somebody, even if he was unpopular, and Donald Trump could be unpopular, but he was writing a crest of a massive mandate based on issues, and they didn't understand that.

They had no constituency, nothing for the transgender excesses.

They had nothing for the open border.

They had nothing for Afghanistan or the Chinese balloon type of foreign policy.

They have no support for

the critical legal theory, critical racial theory, DEI,

nothing.

And so.

They don't get that.

And this mayor is an insurrectionist.

It's very funny because they say they were out against insurrectionists.

They are the party of insurrection.

And we saw that when Senator Casey, he finally threw in the towel.

But even when it was mathematically impossible that the recount could get him elected, he was still trying to fix ballots.

And only in pre-selected counties, though, jurisdictions that were blue.

In other words, he didn't care about ballots

that might have to be fixed according according to his interpretation of how to warp the law if they resulted in McCormick ballots.

You know,

I have to always bring up my embarrassing high school and college affiliations, and he was a classmate of mine at Holy Cross.

I really didn't know him.

I mean, I knew of him.

Yeah.

And his wife.

No offense, but how come every time you bring up Holy Cross,

you become the world's

yeah dregs i mean every every person whether it's comey or patrick fitzgerald all where did you what is this all this patrick fitzgeral is my high school they're either incompetent or

criminals

what what how do you associate and this is a catholic high school and college how did you end up with so many people i i'm just saying i'm i'm a magnet

for

this

anyway victor he is not you know his father was as Democrat governor of Pennsylvania.

I remember him.

And a much more noble

man of a party that no longer exists.

And his son lived off his

father's reputation, I think, pretty well the first two terms.

And then there was nothing left but gas fumes in the engine.

And then when he finally conceded the other day, I don't know if you saw his talk, it was, he looked like he was talking to Sesame Street or recording for Sesame Street.

It was embarrassing that

this is the caliber of

one of the 100 members of the world's greatest deliberative bodies.

It's Bob Casey.

Get out of here.

Don't let the door hit you on the way.

Well, it's the tragedy of the Senate elections were one more week, and Mike Rogers would have won in Michigan, Sam Brown would have won in Nevada.

And I even think that Kerry Leg might have won

because it was all trending that way.

And Wisconsin was also

Hovid.

Yeah, he was Hove D.

He was going to win.

In fact, he was the closest.

And the reason that they lost was if you look at all of their candidates, their opponents, those opponents flipped and started, just like Casey did, and they started mouthing MAGA issues and policies, and they were populists just for this little interregnum, just for a little bit.

We know that they were insincere, but they sounded almost indistinguishable from the Republican candidate.

Right.

Well, I mean, Casey was running ads, right, in his case,

signing him,

affiliating himself with Trump.

By the way, Victor, back on the Denver stuff, Tom Holman, the

forthcoming Borders are,

and he's been on tv a lot very everywhere he's everywhere and warning about these kind of uh as you say confederate uh actions

that

uh it is a crime to to uh

to prevent the ice agents from doing what they have to do and that could be

that could be

the officials of denver or whatever city you know they're if they're in really you know in the state and maybe even

not so funny about this this guy thinks he's

the federal government removing George Wallace from the doors of the University of Alabama in, what, 1963 or something, 62.

He's actually George Wallace standing in the door trying to obstruct the federal government.

We're talking about the mayor of the mayor of

the United States.

He is an insurrectionist, and he is saying to the rest of the country,

the city of Denver picks and choose which federal statutes we follow.

And as I said before, if somebody in Utah said, you know what, we have a shopping center and we are not going to follow the federal endangered species list.

Sorry, it's crazy.

Or if somebody in Montana said, I'm not picking on those places, or the Dakotas say, I'm going to go, in our jurisdiction, you can go in and you can buy a Glock.

Just buy it, fill out the form, state form, and go take it.

We're not going to have any federal federal waiting list or any of this federal gun registration stuff.

No.

What would he say?

He would say, these are fascists.

These are going to destroy the United States.

Of course he would.

And that's what's so weird about the left.

They really do believe that they are morally superior to such an extent that they have a right to pick and choose which laws they're going to follow.

So we all heard that the filibuster was a, to quote a Barack Obama, a racist relic.

We were told by Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer the first thing they were going to do when Camilla Harris, remember the honeymoon when they said that she had this bump and she was ahead of Trump and it looked like suddenly the Republicans, it didn't look, this was all fake, but they said that, that they were going to hold on to the Senate.

They said, we are going to let in Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C.,

and we are going to get rid of the filibuster.

And the National Voter Compact's almost there.

I haven't heard any of it lately.

Why don't they say, well, Donald Trump, can you finish our agenda and get rid of the filibuster now that you're in the majority in the Senate?

No.

And why don't they say, you know what, eastern Oregon and eastern Washington are distinct.

So is Northern California above Chico.

They are very distinct areas.

They're the reddest places in the United States.

They need to be separate states with two senators, i.e.

six red senators.

Is that what they want?

Is that what they want?

But they're like little adolescents.

They're just like kids.

They remind me this new progressive, whatever's, whoever has hijacked the Democratic Party.

You know, one day Donald Trump is Hitler, and the next day we got to go over to the Fuhrer bunker and see him.

And it's just one AOC is one day lecturing about pronouns, and then in Trotskyite fashion, they disappear from her website.

They're just like little kids, you know, fads.

Well, as much, you know, as you just said, they feel superior.

On the flip side of that is

they do detest the people that they feel they're superior to.

Yeah, you know, it's, it's, it was really weird.

I, it came to me when I was like, I don't know, 29 or 30, I re-entered academia and I went to this department meeting, first department meeting at Cal State Fresno.

And I was in this this meeting, and I had just left talking to three farmers about

this Massey Ferguson we had that had a

cracked head on it.

And they were all explaining the different ways you could take the head out quickly and all of this.

And then we got on to another topic of strategies for, and these guys were all brilliant.

And then I went up 38 miles, 30, whatever it was, and I got sat there that afternoon.

And it was the most banal and you know what the topic was that some professors were lingering talking to students when it was no longer their turn to be in the classroom and what was the protocol for the next professor to come in when this professor and it but it wasn't even that elevated real-life problem victor yes it was like this wow you know that if you're going to talk to students that's on my time

And I have some very important free things, free

class things to announce in my class.

And I deeply resent the fact that you are hogging my class space.

And then it was just shouting and stuff.

I thought, wow, man, these are children.

These people are, they're not talking about the content of their class.

They're not talking about...

Maybe you can take the students and put them in the hallway.

They're just envy and petty.

And it's that whole left-wing, I'm smarter and more moral.

And then these other guys out here with no salary, no tenure, they had to survive on their wits and their muscularity, and they're out here talking about how to break down a sophisticated engine or how to get labor at the right time, and the seasons and the odds about rain and the real world.

And that was what this election is about.

It really was.

It was the people who have to deal with the real world versus all of these people who are wealthy or they're

and

they're teachers, they've got tenure or they're whatever they are.

They are not as vulnerable to the consequences of left-wing ideology that is basically destructive.

Well, we have

we should go down.

This is not a rabbit hole, this is a tunnel.

We should continue to go down it.

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Victor, even in California, even in Los Angeles,

people are increasingly getting red religion.

And I don't know that that's come to the attention of some of the leadership there.

Los Angeles City has declared itself a sanctuary city.

This, despite the voters showing their disdain for some of the insanity,

bouncing the whatever the, I forget the DA's name.

Gascon.

Gascon, yeah.

Yeah, but now in the face of the elections, but back to your point of

doubling down that they just don't get it.

Los Angeles will be, Los Angeles will become a sanctuary city.

Is a sanctuary city.

Yeah, it is.

And they've got a million illegal aliens there in the city at least.

And then 10 million have come.

So when people look at California, I mean, that was a massive Marshall Plan ambition to take 10 million people from the poorest places in the world and integrate them when they came without English legality

and without limited numbers to a host that had no longer any belief in civic education or the exceptionalism of the United States.

And the result was what they are talking about.

But they are neo-Confederates.

You know, a long time ago, Jack, I wrote an article about this, the new, a couple of them.

And if you think about it, the left, they have the same racial essentialism

as the old, the one-drop rule.

That was what Elizabeth Warren was claiming, you know, that she had one drop of Indian blood.

One 1,024th, something?

And I'm not, yeah, I'm not being exact.

I remember Haley Hollyberry, the actress, was in a divorce,

contested divorce, and she was said on the record that the child that she'd married somebody who was white is mine because of the old, the old South's one-drop oil, and she evoked it.

So they were really racial essentialists.

They are today.

And that is Confederate.

The other thing is they create Confederate economies, big cotton.

Remember, there was no middle class in the old Confederacy.

It was big cotton, and there was the people who took care of the slaves and the slaves, but there was no entrepreneurial, autonomous middle class.

And that's kind of like what California is now.

I guess you wouldn't call big tech big cotton, but it's $9 trillion and it runs the state.

And

we mentioned nullification.

That's a Confederate landmark.

But

it just strikes me that.

The left has adopted that neo-Confederate model economically, socially, politically.

A small little pyramidal, right on the top of the pyramid, the little capstone, and then everybody else is the underclass.

And then they, and among this rarefied group, they want to check everybody's genealogy and racial pedigree.

And then they want to pick and choose which laws they follow.

And it's really a dysfunctional worldview.

And this is.

It's so exciting right now to be alive, to tell you the truth.

David Mamet, you know, the great playwright.

Oh, yeah.

he's one of my favorite people.

And I know him a little bit.

I know, do you?

Okay,

yeah,

I love him.

I like him.

I was introduced to him by another great American, Shelby Steele, one of my favorite people,

colleague of mine for almost 20 years.

But David sends me things once in a while.

And he wrote a work of genius.

And he had a line that, you know, America's not over.

America is not over yet.

Not yet.

America's in Christ.

It may fall, but not yet.

It reminds me of that line I think I mentioned in Das Boot, when they think they're doomed, and then they pop up in the Mediterranean and they fix it.

And he said, we're not dead yet.

And it's really

the idea of the article is that we don't really appreciate how close we got to this revolutionary, destructive impulse until this unlikely Trump Trump and his supporters saved us.

And if you think it was very, we were right on a tipping point where we were

this country, because of three events, the George Floyd riots that made everybody go crazy, the COVID lockdown national quarantine we'd never had before, which allowed everybody to go crazy, and the Trump victory, and then the 2020 elect.

This country was just about on the

and then they brought in a left-wing under joe biden's demented veneer

a left-wing cadre we have never seen before and this revolution that we just survived everybody it was 360 degrees it was redefining sex

so it was redefining abortion i mean this this menu says every woman should have the abortion pill without a doctor's prescription

or anything.

Forget ivermedsin, they thought was dangerous.

Ivermedsin is like candy compared to some of the anti-abortion pills, the ramifications and side effects.

Four-year-old boy can declare himself a girl.

Yes, and then the racial thing that we were going to re-tribalize the entire country.

We were going to spend billions of dollars to essentialize people by their color and their gender, and they were going to adjudicate who could be hired and who couldn't.

We were going to wreck the Pentagon or redefine the Pentagon so it was a social organization where social change could be fast-tracked without adjudication.

It was a revolution that we contract law, you know?

Yes,

contracts.

We're going to forgive your loan.

Yeah,

everything was going to be nullified.

There was going to be no rule of law.

There was no rule of law in the cities.

And

think about it.

And it was a revolution.

It was, we're going to topple statues.

We're going to rename things.

We're going to flash our pronoun.

It was an effort to reinvent the human condition in the United States.

And then they thought we only have one threat to it.

And you mentioned the Ethan Edwards, and I've mentioned that kind of tragic figure before on this podcast.

And they looked at that guy, Donald Trump, and they said,

He's a flawed individual, but he's a disruptor, and he's got a message that's a counter-revolutionary message that polls better than our message.

And we have to destroy him.

We're going to impeach him twice.

We're going to try him as a private citizen.

We're going to try to get him off the ballot.

We're going to try to shoot him.

We're going to try to use lawfare.

We're going to get Eugene Curl.

We're going to give her millions of dollars and sue him for something that probably never happened.

We're going to get Stormy Daniels.

We're going to bootstrap a federal charge that the federal prosecutors do not want to look at under Alvin Bragg.

We're going to get Lita Tita James to cook up some real estate charge that she's never and never will be charged against anybody.

We're going to get this dagger-eyed Jack Smith to be asymmetrical on archival matters, i.e., Joe Biden's okay, Donald Trump's a felon.

And we're going to destroy him.

And that he, we came very close, we ping very close.

And it was a revolutionary attempt.

We're so lucky to survive it.

We still have to fight it.

It's still there.

I mean, I was thinking of that just now.

I know we were going to get to it, but we had the Daniel Penny trial.

Remember, he was the ex-Marine, everybody who was in the New York subway when people were fleeing.

A deranged, homeless person that was spouting threats to kill people had, I don't know, what, 20 or 30, or is that 40 former arrests, many of them felony convictions,

trying to threaten people.

They were terrified of him.

So he put him in a chokehold.

And apparently his defense made a convincing argument that that did not kill him.

A la, George Floyd, same kind of issue.

And they're going to try.

And Alvin Bragg tried to prosecute him for saving people on a subway.

And I thought about that.

What is revolutionary justice?

Just keep that in mind, everybody, and then think of Officer Bird.

He was the African-American Capitol policeman who had a checkered record.

With a gun.

Yes.

He'd been cited three or four times.

And he shot Ashley Babbitt, a 14-year-old military veteran, for committing a misdemeanor of going through an already broken window into the Capitol with no prior convictions.

And she was facing armed Capitol policemen who were much in a much better position with automatic, semi-automatic weapons to take care of her.

And they didn't think she was a threat.

And then

he shot her in the neck and killed her.

They immediately rallied around him.

They said he was a hero.

They wouldn't release his name.

He played victim on 60 Minutes.

Well, just my point is, just contrast that with Penny and tell me that.

Does anybody think, I guess it was the man's name, Neely, or the guy, the African-American homeless person that

Penny apprehended and choked.

But my point is, does anybody think that Ashley Babbitt was as much a threat as that guy was?

And given that guy's record, no.

And does anybody think that Daniel Penny deliberately tried to kill or to maim that person in the way that Officer Bird did?

And then asked themselves, why is Daniel Penny in danger of going to prison for murder or

involuntary madslider?

And Officer Byrd Byrd was declared a hero.

Because the cases are analogous in some ways.

And the answer is that in this revolutionary movement, skin color is predicated on it triumphs truth.

So you, in one case,

put it this way, let's just reverse the whole thing.

So Ashley Babbitt is an African-American young woman who has a 14-year-old record, and she's going through a window in the Capitol that's already broken, and a white police officer with a checkered record of being sloppy in the position on the handling and the possession of his weapon, shoots her and kills her.

Stop, take a deep breath.

On the subway, there is a lunatic white homeless person that has a huge wrap sheet, and he's threatening to kill people.

And a very brave African-American ex-Marine tries to subdue him.

The person he's subduing has been on cannabis and he's not in good health.

Does anybody think that the subway African-American ex-Marine would be facing, Alvin Bragg would have charged him?

I don't think so.

And I can guarantee you that if Ashley Babbitt had been a young black woman going through the window in this revolutionary system of justice and that officer had had a checkered record with his own firearm and shot her, he would be facing what now Daniel Petty is facing.

Right.

I hate to say that, but it's true.

And that's not nothing to do with race or anything.

It's revolutionary justice.

And that's what it is, that you take a political ideology and you superimpose it on a legal code.

And what you get is chaos.

And that's where we were.

And that they did that to Donald Trump.

Yeah, if you're a kulak, you're guilty because you're a kulak.

Under revolutionary justice, if you're Joe Biden and you take documents out for 30 years that are classified, you put them in four unsecure locations, and then you talk about their classified nature to someone, a ghostwriter, who does not have a security clearance, and that is on tape, and then that person, in fear of being indicted, destroys evidence, then two things happen.

The special prosecutor says, well, I think he's too demented to convince a jury that he's culpable, so I'm not going to charge him.

And then I think the ghostwriter was afraid that he might be hacked, so he destroyed subpoena evidence.

And then you fast forward under revolutionary justice to Donald Trump.

He took those documents out.

Yes, they were under dispute.

And we have a right to take a SWAT team, break into Mar-Lago, go through Melania's underwear drawer,

and then rearrange them on the ground as if they're all a mess, take a picture and say, see, look with the condition, how they were being stored.

That's revolutionary justice.

Well, Victor,

we've got to, what are we going to, well, we've got to take a break here.

And I think maybe we.

We have a lot of stuff to talk about.

We do.

But when we, I want to make note before we go to break that we are recording on Saturday the 23rd.

And yesterday, Friday the 22nd, the

penny defense rested.

So I assume, I can't, shouldn't assume anything, anything, but it's quite possible when this podcast actually comes out, which will be on Tuesday, the 26th, there may be a verdict.

So just keep that in mind, dear listeners.

And we're going to get back to a bunch of stuff.

Are you going to talk about Joe Tarzan Biden?

Who's Jane in that?

He was venturing into the jungle to save somebody.

Well,

we got other things.

We got to talk about the Jaguar.

So speaking of jungles,

Jaguar and Tarzan.

Tarzan meets Jaguar.

We'll do this when we come back from these important messages.

We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

So when this particular episode started in my ham-handed way, I mentioned some of the

ad points in this now infamous

Jaguar.

I say Jaguar in the Bronx, but of course,

it's Jaguar

if you're seeing it on a television commercial.

Victor, I'm assuming you and the great Sammy Wink did not talk about this advertisement, but the points were, folks, I'm sure most folks have seen the ad with a bunch of freaks, not a car ad without a car in it.

Sorry, freaks is a technical term.

Some copy points that came up on the screen.

Copy nothing, break molds, create exuberant, delete ordinary.

This ad has been mocked wildly, but now the head of

JGR, excuse me, someday I'll get

his name here.

What is his name?

Oh, Rawdon Glover

is counter-attacking the critics of this insane ad

for being guilty of vile hatred and intolerance.

Victor, you would have thunk after

Bud Light and other things that the advertising community would get away from this insanity by the way i heard that like 800 people worked on this ad

800 did yes yeah

so anyway victor this is a another touch point in our culture wars your thoughts on

well we're right back to

the

i don't know if tallyrand actually said that but he he was famously quoted napoleon remember he was the foreign minister for the bourbons and then the Jacobin people and then Napoleon.

Then he ended up in the Bourbons.

He was very adoptable, but Tallyran supposedly said they learned nothing and forgot nothing.

We're right back to Dylan Mulvaney territory.

You think after Dylan Mulvaney's crazy ad destroyed Bud Light's brand that no one would be stupid enough to do something like that again.

So they take this

gold-plated standard Jaguar,

and

I saw the commercial three times.

Were they trans people?

Were they punk?

I don't know.

Was it surrealist?

They were trans.

I don't know what they were doing.

But there was no picture of any Jaguar.

There was nothing.

And, you know, Jaguar,

when I was a freshman in 1967, I had a wonderful freshman football coach.

I think his name was Denny Adams.

I worshipped him.

He was such a great guy, and he was very handsome.

He was about 27.

so.

All the girls liked him, the teachers.

And he came to school one with

school one day with an XKE.

Remember those Jaguars, XKEs?

That was the most beautifully designed car that was ever made.

I could not believe it.

It was like out of a science fiction movie.

And

he came up to me and he said,

This thing is leaking oil.

They all leaked oil jaguars.

So I called my dad and he called,

my dad was a really good mechanic.

And my dad had gone around and found a XK-150, 1953 Jaguar,

the precursor for the XKE two-seat.

I mean, God, that thing was like 350 horsepower.

And he bought it.

It didn't run.

Nobody wanted it.

And so he towed it back to our farm and he worked on it and we got it running.

And my brother took it to campus and then it leaked oil.

It was so complicated.

And one day my other, my twin brother drove it and the wheel flew off.

The wheel flew off when he was,

he almost killed himself.

And then we got the wheel back on and my brother and I were trying to fix it.

And I was driving it into downtown Selma and I hit the brakes and

there were no brakes.

The hydraulic.

the brake fluid had all leaked out.

I went up on the sidewalk.

I tried to do the emergency brake, and I was, you know, missing people.

And then I hit one of these big pots.

And the guy came out and he was really good.

I didn't crack it or anything, but it was a concrete pot.

And I said, oh my God.

So any you'd think I'd learn.

So I took the Jaguar back.

My dad was one of the most wonderful people in the world.

He said, well, you know, don't worry about it.

We'll fix it.

He got it all fixed.

So then I was working at a packing house and my little old volvo was broken down.

So my dad said, oh, you can take that thing.

Be careful with it.

So I drove it.

And somebody,

I said, this guy there, I won't mention his name, wanted to drive it.

And he was like a hot rodder and he was a mechanic.

He was in high school.

So he said, I said, it's really tricky to shift and it's got an overdrive.

Don't worry, there's this road out in rural California.

Nobody's on it.

So he went in and I was in the passenger side

and he started going 80,

90.

I said, stop.

I was screaming at the top.

He got it up to 110 miles an hour and it was not even redlining.

And I said,

I've never been more scared.

Well, I have been, but it was amazing.

But my point is, those were really unique cars.

They really were.

And they had a lot of problems with mechanics in the 60s and 70s.

They were kind of too intricate.

They weren't that reliable, but they were beautifully crafted.

And the idea that that company with name

uh would make a commercial like the commercial they did that was just pandering to what

sexual ambiguity

uh pandering to trans pandering to

uh punk pandering to postmodernism pandering to this is so bewildering to only a a small cadre when they had one of the most beautiful products in the world all they had to do was show it They're lecturing us in these ads.

One ad, like you were like, buy my chocolate bar.

I get that.

But these ads that lecture.

Why wouldn't they just make a

just drive up, a guy drive up in a 1950 XK-120 and then park another guy looks a little different

and he drives it and parks it with a beautiful XK-150, 1953 or 4.

And then another guy comes up with that beautiful XKE

and then

the successor and say, this is the Jaguar family.

And here's

the birth of the progeny of all of this.

Why not do something like that?

It's just, you know what it is?

It's just the same old, tired narrative that we have these people in the Western world that became fabulously.

powerful, wealthy, titled, credentialed with their 8 billion marketplace person, 8 billion person marketplace.

And they think they're just beyond reproach.

They talk to one another, the celebrities, the athletes, the politicians, the media people, and they don't get out and they can't.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

It's just

obscene what they do.

Well, Victor,

I have to make note.

You mentioned earlier Hallie Berry, and I wasn't sure if she was doing something good or bad, but I don't care.

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You know, I was just going to say what you were saying.

I wasn't criticizing Holly Berry.

I was just trying to show that the left

in all of its manifestations is really adopting the methodology of the Confederates.

And as you were reading the commercial, I just looked it up.

That happened at night, and I did it by memory, but I was pretty accurate.

It was 2011.

And she was in a custody suit with her two-year-old girl, Nala.

And she was claiming that Nala should be her child because Nala, even though she was of mixed racial ancestry,

because Hallie Berry herself was the daughter of a white mother.

Right.

So she was half, and she married somebody who was white.

So according to

her own racial calculus, Hallie Berry's child was

25% black and 75% white.

But

to get custody, she said it was very important culturally that the girl grew up as being black.

And she said at one point, I feel, I'm quoting now, I feel she's black.

I'm black and I'm her mother, and I believe in the one drop theory.

So

I'm just quoting what she said.

I was just being childish and kind of making a thought about that.

She's a terribly beautiful woman.

And actually, Howard, remember Howard Moses that ran the national review cruises, and he had an agency out of Marietta, Georgia.

And she was married to David Justice once, who played for the Atlanta Braves and then eventually the Yankees.

But he said they came in to buy a cruise.

And he said, she's just the most stunning woman you could ever, ever meet.

Anyway, we're here to talk about that.

She was very attractive.

She was a very good actress, too.

But

why anybody would want to quote the one-drop rule?

I don't.

And the reason she's quoting the one-drop rule is because that is what universities use.

Because

one thing that the affirmative action people never told us was when they started to adjudicate admissions and hiring by race, in a multiracial society, they never told us what was the threshold.

So if you were half black, did you look black or you look Hispanic?

And they never told us that because to tell us that would incriminate themselves as racial, obsessive, chalvinistic, essentialist.

And they would eventually, yes, you eventually, once you go down that deplorable road,

you eventually end up right where you don't think you will end up.

And that is neo-Confederacy

one-drop rule.

And that's what they practice.

They do now.

Let me check this box.

You're a quadroon.

You're an octoroon.

Well, this is the same, right?

It's just ugly, ugly thoughts.

Yeah,

they had a whole classification for it.

So did Hitler.

Hitler hired genealogists.

So if you were a member of the Third Reich elite and your grandmother was Jewish

and somebody wanted to take your job, they would whisper that, oh.

They shouldn't whisper to Goering or somebody, this person's grandmother was Jewish.

And they'd bring in the genealogist and they would try to find out if that were true, even though the person didn't, you know,

there was no evidence that they were Jewish.

And so, not that that would be a problem anyway, but the point is, when you go down there, it's really, it gets

dirty and nasty and awful.

Yeah, well, only thing that trumps all of this is meritocracy.

Now, Victor, because we are, again, we're recording on the 23rd and

time marches on, I think maybe we should bring up, I know you've talked, we talked about it last week and you talked about with Sammy, but Pete Hegseth, who's nominee for the Secretary of Defense, and some

recent news has come out

about the truth of what happened to him or didn't happen to him.

And maybe it'd be good to get your thoughts on that now.

Who knows what could happen between when this podcast airs and the next episode.

But I know you've talked about this with Megan Kelly.

You were on her show yesterday, I believe.

You want to give us some Yeah, Megan, I was on with Megan yesterday, and she was

she started her show with a 10-minute,

you could say she was angry in a rant, but she was so analytical.

It wasn't a rant.

She just went through the timeline.

And she pointed out that the woman in question was kind of a Sherpa with the Republican Party group that had asked him.

He was the keynote.

They went to a Monterey hotel.

He was, I think,

separated from his wife, headed for a divorce.

He gave the speech.

He's a very handsome, dynamic, nice guy.

There were a lot of people afterwards at the reception.

They went to a bar.

This woman in question was

trying to keep women away from him or Pete away from women.

And in in the manner that this happened, he had not hard liquor, but beer, and he went back to his room.

She said that she was worried about him.

There were people, and he was saying, I'm all right and yelling.

People had reported them.

They were on tape.

No one who was later interviewed thought she was at all intoxicated.

She brought him back to the room.

His room.

Now, as Megan noted, her husband and two little children were right down the hallway in a room.

And her husband at this point, before they even had any Congress at all, was texting her, where are you?

It's late.

He was very worried.

He went out and looked at the bar and couldn't find her.

So then she went into Pete's room to make sure that he got there.

Okay, so so far as Megan pointed out, everything is fine.

He's there.

He might have made a pass to another woman.

This woman said, I think you're a little bit too drunk.

It's time for you to

go to your room.

So they have video of him, and she's clearly not intoxicated.

He may or may not be tipsy.

I don't know.

But she draws, and then it's he said, she said.

And they have two police reports.

She says, and she was in the room for about two hours.

She says that he came on to her.

They had sexual relations.

He practiced coitus interruptus.

She wanted to leave.

He blocked the door.

And

she then went out

back.

She had to come up and she told him not to worry.

She was going to tell her husband.

She fell asleep somewhere.

Okay.

He says,

he said, why are you hanging around here?

And flirting started.

They had a mutually,

a mutually assented assented sexual act.

They discussed whether they should continue without a prophylactic.

And then at one point, she assumed the superior position in Coitus.

And after it was over, they parted.

He was very worried about her.

He found out, you know, that she was married with two kids.

I'm not going to get into the morality of this.

I think anybody who goes on a speaking circuit knows that one thing you don't do.

I don't have that problem.

I'm 71 now.

But when I was in my 40s and 50s and did not look like Skeletor,

I was told by a friend of mine, when you go out and you give speeches to groups, you do not go have drinks at the bar afterwards.

You just don't do it.

So that was something I never did.

So anyway,

this happens.

There's no problem.

He asked if there's any problem.

No.

They leave.

Fine.

And then somewhere around three or four days later,

I think this was on a Saturday, Monday, she has a sexual act congress with her husband.

Well, it's blocked out in the report, but apparently it's her husband.

That triggers a post-traumatic stress realization that it wasn't just a mutual.

calls the Monterey County.

Now, we're in a liberal state and one of very liberal places is Monterey, right near Santa Cruz.

And the investigators come out and they talk to her.

And they note that it's been some time since the act

and that she hasn't reported a rape

and that

they go and talk to Pete.

They talk to her.

They ask if she wants to have a conversation with him that they can monitor.

She doesn't.

then a little bit later, she goes to a hospital, maybe six days later, to see if she had evidence of

this is after she's already had sex with someone else.

Okay, so that's the whole thing.

And then she says that she is going to go public.

So Pete is now with Fox,

and this is...

some time later, and he asks her, what does she want?

And she wants money, so they do a non-disclosure.

Case closed.

Right.

No.

And by the way, while this is all going on, the Monterey police investigators have listened to him, listened to her, understand they're very acquainted with the sexual assault team, and they have adjudicated as no sexual assault took place.

She then decides to give this information to someone and

to railroad his nomination.

And there you have it.

Yeah.

We've seen this before.

We've seen this before.

It's very similar to the Kavanaugh thing that a person,

you know, that well, there was that was even further in time.

But it's

I don't want to I want to be controversial, but I will say something.

If you are a public figure or people know of you and you go give a lecture or you go to a party or you are in any public situation and you meet somebody of the you know who's attracted to you or you're attracted to if you

have a fleeing sexual sex you are absolutely insane

you are absolutely if you're male you're absolutely insane because you are asking for big trouble

and i don't i'm not even getting into the amorality or immorality of it i'm just saying saying that no matter what the conditions were, and he says very clearly that he was appreciative, but even though he was tipsy, that she brought him back.

That was her job.

She was the one that was, I guess, the meet and greeter with Pete.

She brings, I read the whole thing, the both reports.

And so he thinks it's all over with, that the girl that he put his hand on her leg and might have wanted to pick up on was not interested.

And so this woman said, that woman is not interested and she said okay I'm gonna go back so so then he said to her why are you still in my room

and the talk escalated to a physical yeah

but you're you're absolutely crazy to ever put yourself in that situation

yeah these um this trend of non-disclosure agreements having nothing

you're you're stupid to do a non-disclosure they're never honored uh they are they're only valid to the degree that you cannot be hurt in the sense that you're obscure or you're broke.

But if you're somebody in the public eye or you have means, at some point down the line, the person that you had sex with, if it was consenting and if she thought she could embarrass you,

if you ever reach a point where that, then

you're going to be in trouble.

Actually, I think that's why we have Obama as president, right?

He won that Senate race

because of a non-disclosure agreement and a divorce trial.

It was worse than that.

He did that in the general and

he did that in the primary and eliminated a candidate who would have won.

He got someone in the Chicago court system to leak the divorce trial.

And then in the general, the person, all he had done is gone to,

he took his wife to a risque

bar, porn.

I don't know what it was.

Yeah, and then they had a divorce, and she, for a while, tried to use that as a reason he shouldn't get custody.

Then they kind of reconciled, not to get remarried, but to close it.

It was sealed, and then somebody leaked that.

And Obama once quipped: I don't think I'd ever be a senator if I hadn't at least that divorce.

Somebody hadn't leaked that divorce thing in my primary and got rid of him.

And then I got the other one over there in the general election.

Take those two away, and he would have never never been elected.

Gosh, David Oxford, you know, was his Sherpa at that time.

Well, Victor, we have time for one more.

We have lots of things we could talk about, and we're going to record another episode, and so we'll move some of those things there.

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what we mentioned a little earlier on

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You know, Jack, before we go on,

I didn't mean to say that if Pete was separated, he shouldn't be dating.

I'm talking about one night stands as a public figure.

And I meant, you know, especially men, but it applies to a lesser degree of women, too.

If you

are a public figure or you have means, anytime you hook up with somebody you've never met

and you think, and whatever the circumstances of consensuality, and you know it's consensual, that's not the end of the story.

That's all I'm saying.

Well, you're

your prophylactic recommendation.

And now you, like it or not, even you call yourself Skeletor,

you have a great following, I am confident.

I've seen you on cruises.

I mean, there are people that just worship you and would like to carry on the conversation, I'm sure.

And the only way to preclude what others go through is, as

the prayer goes, avoid the near occasion of sin.

So you have to take those.

You're right, Victor.

Well, I don't go to the links that was it Billy Graham that said when he gave those

really magnetic performances all over the world, you know, those come to Jesus things.

Right.

He was a very handsome guy.

Yeah.

And he would say he would lock himself in his room from the outside.

He had somebody locked the outside because he didn't want to be tempted by Satan.

But

I don't want to give advice.

I didn't want to sound like I was sanctimoniously giving advice to Pete.

But if he had just said to himself, I'm drunk,

or he had the old adage, I think my father told me, never have relations with somebody crazier than yourself.

Well,

I don't think unless you're, I think none of this precludes

his ability to be a successful Secretary of Defense.

No, it doesn't.

And I think

everybody matures or evolves.

And I think he's happily married now.

And

he was going through a period where he was in combat some horrific conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And

so I, and I don't think he would do that at all now.

I love Pete.

I spent some time with him.

He's good.

He came out here and he was one of the most humble,

informed, sincere people.

And

Donald Trump, as we said before, has kind of a dilemma because

he really does want to avoid the mistakes he made in 2007 of trusting establishment figures in state, in defense.

Oh, gosh.

Who was the Secretary of State?

Rex Tillardson.

What a disaster.

Yeah.

I mean, he said that Donald Trump was stupid.

Remember, and Trump said, what's your IQ?

And so Trump was really wasting precious capital having to reply to members that he brought.

And then there was the anonymous and then, gosh, all of these people, Omar Rosa,

yeah.

And then, what's her name, the Hutchinson or whoever, Cassie, the Melania's aide that turned on her.

John Bolton wrote a memoir and timed it.

If he's going to avoid that and get people who are not part of the swamp and are loyal to him, then almost de facto, he's going to have to get people who do not have the same type of experiences, education, credentials, because they're going to be compromised and they're going to find a thousand ways not to do what Donald Trump says.

But Donald Trump has a mandate, as I said, based on the issue.

So

except for the Gates thing that you and I just expressed reservations about,

and in that regard, I don't understand.

Well, I do understand.

We talked about our conspiracy theories, why he picked Gates as if he would draw all of the fire away from the other candidates.

He would resign his seat so he would not be a disruptor in the House anymore.

He would never get out of committee, and he didn't,

so that nobody would have to go on record voting for him, and then he would be replaced by somebody much more palatable.

Pan Bondi's got a lot of experience.

She'll get confirmed.

Although they will go after her for something,

they're going to go after all of them, but I think they're going to get confirmed now.

And I think that might have worked.

I don't know if it was intended or not, but

the left spent a lot of political capital and energy going after Gates

and took the country's attention toward them.

And maybe Tulsi Gabbard and RFK and Pete Hecksepp will go through.

Well, Victor, the point you're making about the pool of trustworthy sources, if we take that, the 100 Republicans, mostly seem to have been Bush administration people who signed that document.

They were endorsing Kamala Harris.

I bet there were a thousand more, many thousand more, who didn't have the courage to sign that, but would have wanted to.

because they were hedging their bets because maybe they would have a role in the next administration if it was Republican.

And so from that kind of pool, a broader pool,

there's trouble to be had.

There is no never Trump movement now.

It doesn't exist.

If you look at the bulwark,

I wouldn't recommend going on it, but it's straight left wing.

All those people, some of who were friends of ours, Jack,

all of them are writing complete,

I don't want to say boilerplate Democrat.

They're hard left.

And so they have completely flipped over.

And they're strategizing how not just to destroy Donald Trump, but destroy the whole Republican Party.

And because resistance, they are going to be the resistance.

They are the resistance and they're getting more and more

shriller and they're getting more irrelevant.

And I don't think there is a never-Trump movement.

I think Donald Trump extinguished it.

Yeah.

Well, but speaking of which, you have written a column, Victor, and we'll run out, Turner,

head for the finish line here with your column on a return to sanity.

And it begins, we are witnessing a historic counter-revolution after Trump's victory, far different from his first election in 2016.

The Orthodox and the supposed scripted future are now suspect, and they are likely to be dethroned from the trivial to the existential.

Would you take us out, Victor, by discussing this?

This is your syndicated column from this week.

Well,

this is not a revolution.

It's a counter-revolution.

It's an attempt by by Trump to stop the cultural, economic, and political,

social insanity.

And

he's trying to reform all of the weaponized agencies.

He's trying to go back to normalcy.

So when people say he's radical, he's doing...

No, he's not.

The FBI is radical.

Three out of the last four FBI directors did not tell the truth under

oath.

The CIA, as John Brennan, lied twice under oath.

The DOJ was entirely weaponized, whether it was fixing a sentence for Hunter or trying to, or it was spying on groups that were politically opposed to Joe Biden or committing law affair.

That was the orthodox, and it was a revolutionary movement.

And if you think Donald Trump

is a revolutionary,

then you've got to think that we're normal.

We are in revolutionary times.

They are the revolutionary.

There is $37 trillion in debt.

And they are adding $2 trillion.

The counter-revolutionary effort is to try to cut spending and get back.

If you think that Pete Hexeth is going to disrupt

the Pentagon, Pentagon.

He's going to bring it back to normalcy.

He's going to say that if you're a four-star general, please do not come out of Lockheed or

General and go back to it after your tenure and use the contacts for procurement that might not be in our

national interest.

He's going to try to tell people, if you

had natural immunity from COVID, you don't need a booster, and we're surely not going to kick you out and lose 85 of our hundred of our best people.

And he's trying to say, there's something wrong with the Pentagon.

You don't win our wars.

What was the bombing of Libya or the bombing of Syria or Afghanistan or Iraq?

And

why are you losing all of these recruits?

Is it gangs?

Is it obesity, as you say?

Is it drug use?

Or is it because you went after a particular demographic?

And so

on the border, Trump is saying, you think I'm a revolutionary?

What's revolutionary is you destroyed the border.

It doesn't exist.

You let in 12 million people.

You've got 16,000 people staying in hotel rooms in New York at your expense.

We have never seen anything.

You are empowering the cartels with sex trafficking and fentanyl importation.

I am going back to what everybody wanted before this revolution, and that is a secure border and legal-only immigration.

And so, this Trump revolution is really a counter-revolution.

And, you know, he's saying for 5,000 years, we did not have a separate sex.

We had something called

gender dysphoria.

It was a rare physical and mental phenomenon.

But it's not a mainstream civil rights matter that involves 20% of the population.

And

so

I think I ended that column by saying, you know, the age of flashing your pronouns and taking down statues and renaming icons,

trashing the dead, we trash the dead all the time and vandalizing the campus library or going after Jews, it's passing.

It's passing.

It's fading.

We're not going to put up with it anymore.

But don't say that Donald Trump is a revolutionary.

He's a counter-revolutionary.

He's trying to bring the country back to where it was.

I think the madness started with the election of Obama.

I really did.

Everybody thought they were voting for a moderate racial healer, half-black, half-white.

They did not want a

Marshall Davis ideal,

Bill Ayers type of revolutionary.

And they did not want a First Lady who was always going on the racial victimization harangue.

And I think that continued through Joe Biden.

They voted for all Joe Biden from Scranton, who was going to be a United and a moderate, not an enfeebled vessel for a third Obama term.

And that's what they got.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Maybe we should end with that, Victor, because we mentioned it before, him wandering off into the jungle, which is in a sense kind of laughable.

But on the other hand, it's like

they're on the verge of a war.

What I didn't understand about that, so he's at the G20 in Brazil.

I guess he was near Brasilia, the interior capital or something.

So he finished, and like he always does, he looks around.

And I don't understand why they don't have handlers.

It's like the laptop thing where, you know, he said that everybody was garbage and it looked like he was in outer space on the angle of the laptop.

Why didn't they have professionals?

Why don't they have little markers, you know, like little spray paint?

steps that he follows.

But there was nobody there.

So he always looks around.

Sometimes he goes in the the wrong way of the stage, but he wanders off into the jungle.

But what happened to him?

They cut

the stream, the video.

Did he ever come back?

Did they go fetch him?

Is he still out there?

I don't know.

I haven't seen him since.

Yeah.

They don't tell us.

So he's got a little bit of a Tarzan.

Maybe Tarzan saved him.

I don't know.

Okay.

Well, maybe.

Me, Jill, you, Tarzan.

Hey, Victor, you've been terrific as ever.

I want to

thank again the folks

that I met personally last night, Cheryl and Paul Elmore and their relatives

and

the great

fans of Victor.

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I want to make note of two things, Victor, because we read the comments that people leave on Apple and on your website.

And people rate the show on Apple zero to five stars.

Thanks, everyone who takes the time to do that.

And Victor's rating is 4.9 plus.

One person,

kindly Jim and LG, wrote,

love the show.

I listen to every episode.

From the November 19th program, it was quarterback Drew Brees' name you were looking for, not Drew Bledsoe.

So we were talking about that terrible moment where

Drew Brees pulled back on his stand for patriotism.

I thought it was a low point of the whole canceled culture war early on.

But one other,

take one other

comment here from

H.

J.

B.

Mann, who writes, titles this National Treasure,

writes, this podcast is superb.

VDH is absolutely brilliant, and he presents a very intellectual and well-reasoned argument to his beliefs.

BDH knows more about military history and the classics than anyone alive today.

I hope you know that, Victor, he uses his extensive knowledge of the past to show us that what we are going through now is not anything unique or special.

Plus, he is very calm and even keeled.

He is the best conservative commentator, H.J.B.

Mann.

Thank you.

Very nice.

Very nice of him.

But

I just want to leave today

to kind of encourage everybody.

These are really...

exciting.

Sammy,

our last one, she wrote something like, so good time to be alive or something.

Everybody wrote me about that, the title of that podcast.

And it is really an exciting time.

We dodged a bullet, and there's going to be fundamental changes and reforms.

And everybody's, I've never seen, everybody said we're disunited.

I never thought people who took the knee would now be doing

YMCA.

I never thought that.

I never thought that would happen.

And I never thought that Joe and Mika would go to the fewer bunker.

I never thought that would happen.

And I never thought you would see a Republican cabinet.

And it's going to be problems with it, I'll warn everybody because there's a lot of irreconcilable,

desirable positions.

But I never thought when I saw that caught, when I see them march into world wrestling, I mean, a mixed martial arts events, and I see Dana White and Joe Rogan, Tulsi, RFK,

Speaker Johnson.

It's the most, the left talks about diversity.

This administration is diverse.

Yeah.

Reminds me a little of that HBO show Entourage also, but it's certainly

different and exciting.

Thanks, Victor, for everything.

Thanks, folks, for listening.

And

we will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

Bye-bye.

Thank you, everybody.