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So, Victor,

today, Wednesday, you're starting to see reports.

Well, we've seen them over the last few days.

The polls are turning.

Trump slowly, slowly down three, down two, down one, even maybe ahead.

There was a poll released

today or yesterday by Tammy, whatever the heck her name is, the incumbent senator from Wisconsin who's up to Tammy Duckworth.

yeah.

No, no, Tammy Duckworth, Baldwin.

Tommy Baldwin.

Yeah, I think that's it.

Yeah.

Well, whether that or Joe Schmo,

her internals in Wisconsin show

Kamala down by three points, and she's only up by two.

So

she sent her this information to the Wall Street Journal, which reported it.

The Democrats, I think, are starting to

turn on the five alarm fire bell.

Victor, what are your thoughts?

Well,

all these matrixes that they publish, they always show if Camilla's head by six points,

then she wins the Electoral College by this, this.

But when you get down to if she's ahead by two points,

she doesn't win the Electoral College.

If she's ahead by one point, she loses it really big.

If she's ahead, this is based on prior 2016-2020

statistics.

If she's even or

she loses the Electoral College and near Lands, if she's down one or two in the national, we're talking about the national vote, then she gets wiped out because of the oversampling and flawed.

And we know, everybody should remember that this narrative that they're telling us, well,

2016, yes, we overvalued Hillary.

And then 2020, well, we had to because we knew how bad Trump was, so we really overvalued.

But now we don't overvalue.

We've corrected.

That's a lie.

The best analogy are the moderators.

So you have the CNN thing that was the ambush interview with Trump, the debate with Trump and Biden.

Then we go to ABC,

which was just...

Muir and Davis was atrocious.

I mean, they fat, so that you think, well, these have been so one-sided.

CBS that nobody watches gets to do it.

So they've been told, we're not going to fact check.

We're going to learn from the mistakes.

And what do they do?

They go, they put their finger in the air and they say, on the one hand, there's integrity and our reputations of being unbiased.

On the other hand, it's destroying this awful satanic drum.

No-brainer, we'll go and jump in and try to massage the nature of the questions, make him follow up, cut his mic, fact shifts.

They don't learn.

And so the same thing is true of polls.

These polls are at least one to three points

weighed in her favor.

So if they are even or if he's won, she's in big trouble.

And we can tell that, and we've talked about that so often.

The betting sites are starting to turn.

And they had her favored the last two weeks.

Now you start to see 52, 53

odds on Trump.

And then you must,

we don't know what the internal polls are, but

you remember, Jack, that

some people on the Democratic side have been leaking them, not because they want Trump to know, just because they want to terrify the Democratic donor class to give them lots of money and the complacent people.

And then there's no reason for Tim Waltz, he's a walking disaster, to go on to Fox.

Shannon Bream is a good interviewer.

So he went on there and she was very polite as she always is.

And he was very evasive as he always is.

But when it was all said and done, it was not in his interest to do that interview.

He really was very unimpressive, begging the question, why did he do it?

Why go on a Sunday morning talk show, or I should news show with conservative outlet.

Is he going to pick up conservative viewers?

No, but maybe maybe they think he might if they're what, two, three, four points down in their internal polls.

But I think they have a problem.

And that brings up the other question.

They're not running in a vacuum.

Donald Trump is the one that should be playing run out the clock.

They shouldn't because they're really behind.

In other words, Donald Trump should be doing these interviews like Gutfield we've discussed before, where he's very good.

He's relaxed.

He's natural.

He should be doing podcasts with, go back on Megan Kelly, do all of that stuff.

He should have the rallies, but what he should not do, not do is go on and tweet stuff as he did the other day.

You know, you don't need to say that she's dumb, hairbrained, quick, all that.

Just forget all the adjectives for 25 days.

Now, does that bother Jack and Victor?

No.

No.

I'm sorry.

It was like watching a Don Rickles performance.

Exactly.

The way I look at things when you're a sober and judicious.

This is what bothers me.

I'm a sober and judicious one of the 51 intelligence authorities.

And given my vast experience and my sober and judicious, careful assessment, and I'm never prone to exaggeration,

this laptop, which the FBI has in its hands, seems to me to have maybe all the hallmarks of a Russian information project.

We would call that disinformation.

Okay, that is what I find obscene.

Not Trump just, oh, you know, she's an idiot.

But a lot of people do find that, especially independent and swing voters.

And right now,

Kamala Harris is terrifying a large number of Democrats and independents because they think,

do I really want to be represented for four years by this empty suit, pantsuit?

Do I really want to?

She doesn't know how to speak.

She can't answer a question.

She bats her eyes.

She She winks.

She's a disaster.

And to the extent that she's not a disaster, she's a hard leftist.

And I don't want any more of this four years.

She's told us it's time to turn the page.

It's time to move on.

It's trying to

have change.

And then she goes on there.

Can you think of anything that you disagreed with over the last four years?

You know, I can't, really.

I can't.

She just blew up her whole campaign model.

Isn't that sweet that that question was from Sonny Hostin of all people?

Yeah.

Even this

stake in her heart.

That was a t-ball question.

She did that.

I'm sure she gave the question to her in advance.

And she can't even do that.

So all Trump has to do is just say,

Camilla Harris speaks for herself.

I urge everybody to listen.

Don't listen to what Donald Trump says about her.

You make the decision.

And after you listen to her, you will come and vote for Donald Trump.

And that would be so much more effective than she's a bird ring.

she's stupid, she's all, you know what I mean, she's dad, dada.

Don't do that because it's not that you're going to lose victory.

I'll vote for you, you know,

but

you can't.

But you can't,

you might need in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania a lot of people that want, give them a reason to vote for you.

Right.

There are still a lot of people that have a standard, presidential, which is,

which I hope is a standard that still exists.

But I'm not going to vote for you because you're not acting presidential, whatever that is.

Yeah, whatever it is.

And there's another issue.

It's not just Donald Trump.

There's all these key Senate races and they are starting to mimic.

When Donald Trump goes on Gutfield or Donald Trump

does a good rally, then people want to vote for Donald Trump and the people around Donald Trump.

And you start to see things like

Sheehi just tearing apart tester now.

Or even

in Ohio, Moreno is

catching up.

And I'm not sure Carrie Lake can catch up.

It would be nice if she could, but they're starting to tighten up.

And he could end up with a very different presidency if he has 54, 53, 54, 55 Senate.

senators.

What that means is if you got some,

you know, Paul Ryan type of egomaniac or Mitt Romney egomaniac

narcissist and they think they're going to be the one Republican that is not going to vote with the president then you're going to have to kiss his rear end right and say oh please please please please you don't have to worry about that when you're 55 or 56 seats same thing then they can win the house the house actually doesn't look quite as good as the senate and they're going to have

So, Mr.

President,

you've just got to maintain what you do the best and forget the rest, and you will win, I think, big, and you will win the House and Senate.

And then you can, that first 90 days, boy, you can do stuff that the left had never dreamed of.

Yeah, wildest dreams.

Hey, Victor, I want to get your thoughts on some Biden-Kamala dynamic.

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hurricane and North Carolina and South Carolina, Tennessee.

But Kamala Harris had this Duke out with Governor DeSantis of Florida.

And Joe Biden, did you see this clip?

Joe Biden said to him,

DeSantis doing great.

I talked about that last night on Fox because,

I mean, she has two choices.

So she's got...

a little devil on her right shoulder, Caribrol, or whoever they are advising, or people like that and And they're saying,

you got to win.

People don't like Joe Biden.

He's only 39 to 41%.

They do not like the issues.

You're the change.

You're the move forward.

You're the turn the page.

That's your joy campaign.

And you've done it for 90 days.

So what you have to do now in the final sprint is divorce yourself from him.

And all you have to say is,

oh,

I don't know.

A vice president really obviously has differences with the president.

You know, and given the nature of the office, I really wasn't there as the last person in the room.

And then you risk this.

This is a doom loop she's in.

You risk this.

People then,

Dr.

Jill says to Joe, do you see what she just said?

I knew she was involved in the coup to get rid of us.

And you know what we need to do, Joe?

Just what you've been doing.

Every time you go out there, tell everybody

that all the Republican governors are that she's trying to demagogue and trying to cash in and show up at this disaster for hadn't done anything in four years.

Just kind of tell them that they're doing a great job, i.e., they don't need Kamala.

And then, you know what?

Just say

you really like her.

She's been a great help to you.

She was your partner.

She was in on every decision.

And that's what he's doing.

And then the other,

and

so that is a danger to disconnect with him.

But on the other hand, and he has no filters, by the way, so he can say anything if he gets angry.

So then the other side is you say, well,

it's too late now.

I'm just going to do what I did when I got ambushed by Sony Haus.

I'm going to say, well, I...

I support him and they're good issues.

We secured the border, as I said.

We stopped inflation.

You just lie like he's been doing.

and the problem with that is that then people are going to say

well you don't you're not a turn the page person you had three years and we're not everything you told us doesn't pull 50 percent so what is she going to do betray him or go down with a ship with him and he's going to react one way or the other and It's not going to be good if she separates herself from him.

And it's not going to be good if she

bonds with him because he's not a very likable person and he's unpopular, and his agenda is a disaster.

So, what does she do?

She's schizophrenic.

She says sometimes that I'm not Joe Biden.

I'm not Joe Biden.

Of course, I'm not Joe Biden.

I can't think of anything, I can't think of anything that I differed from it.

So,

that reflects that confusion that she has because there's no solution to it.

She has no unique personality, she has no unique agenda, she has no unique ideas.

So, it's all operational ad hoc ex tempore.

The only chance of her prevailing

from the get-go

was not her, really.

It would have been just Trump somehow being disastrous along the way, right?

I mean,

Trump.

Yeah.

I mean,

I don't see how she has the means within herself to win.

She's got to hope he loses, essentially.

Well, even Howard Stern had an interview with her.

Yeah.

And he just said, I'd vote for a wall over Donald Trump.

Thanks for the compliment.

I mean, that's basically saying she's less than a wall.

Right.

You know, and I don't understand him.

I mean,

I was never a big fan of his.

I don't have any animus toward him, but I knew people, and I used to prune vines and, you know, I'd work on the tractor guys that were on the ranch would listen to him because it was so foul.

And I, you know, he was talking about people having sex in his, you know, showing their genitality, all this horrible horrible stuff.

And he was considered a genius of breaking barriers, and he always was in a fight with the FCC.

They were taking him off.

He was a folk hero to counterculture.

Then he became like the most obsequious, toadish representation of the elite bicostal privileged people.

I guess it was because he got that, I don't know, two or three hundred million dollar deal with

Cirrus Radio, or it was his new wife was left-wing and he and you know he just changed into a completely different person yeah he was uh he actually considered running i think for governor of new york about 15 20 years ago as a libertarian and there was there were some things but regardless you know uh

why is she is she picking these the these venues they're voluntarily

yeah and even stephen even the cbs one stephen colbert did you see the clip of him introducing

He did a mockery of the opening of 60 Minutes.

And he said,

and he's imitating one of the 60-minute hosts.

And we invited Kamala Harris, and she appears tonight.

And we invited Donald Trump to go blank himself.

Like, why is the vulgarity so damn important to the?

That was the smartest thing Trump ever did.

It would be like going and saying, you know what, I'm not going to put my head in the guillotine.

Sorry.

And you can, I'm not going to do it.

I've done it with your moderators twice now, and you people lie, and I can't trust you.

And that CBS interview was disastrous for it.

There were some legitimate questions that you just couldn't.

And Shannon Breen was the same way with Waltz.

They can't answer anything.

It's starting to be cumulative.

I know people say, well, don't get cocky and it's too early.

But again, I know I beat this horse, but it reminds me so much.

I was in my mid-20s when I watched Jimmy Carter every day.

And it was Amy think, I've talked to Amy, you know, his daughter, and then it was Donald Trump is going to blow up the world.

And then

all of the October, you know, they were trying to get the hostages by any means necessary out before the election, attacking Trump for no foreign policy, Reagan for no foreign policy.

He was trigger happy.

And, you know, he had that one debate and he just said, yeah,

there you go again.

And then

right around,

well, not even now, Jack, it was October 20, October 19th.

He was ahead by eight points.

Eight points.

Maybe

eight points.

It was

47 to 39.

And then in the last poll of the election

of 1980, he was ahead.

45-42.

And Reagan blew him out of the water by almost 10 points.

And that was because everybody had seen this guy and they got sick of him.

And they said, I'm sick of being tired, talked to.

I'm sick of being told we have to listen to all of this propaganda and do what these crazy Iranians are telling us.

I'm just sick and tired about it.

I don't want to be lectured anymore.

And that's what I think

everybody is looking at.

It's now a cultural phenomenon.

It's a psychological.

It's a social phenomenon.

When I

looked at Corrine Jean-Pierre, Peter Ducey asked her a legitimate question.

She just said, oh, you're misinformation, disinformation.

She stormed out like a little baby.

And when Biden,

when he wants to be emphatic, he thinks that being emphatic or emphasis is

a synonym to being crude and rude and loud.

Yeah, Trump is

there.

It just doesn't work.

And her being sappy doesn't work.

I think people have seen enough.

And

they had reservations about J.D.

Vance.

He blew those reservations out of the water with

that great debate.

Trump,

you know, Trump showed that he's not scared of anything.

He'll talk to anybody.

He got shot at twice, once they hit his ear, and he's right back at Butler.

He doesn't care.

He's right back there.

So

it's...

It's starting to all come together like a jigsaw puzzle.

You're starting to see all the pieces fit together and you're starting to see the image now.

And the image is not good for the Democrats.

And I hope that I'm not just partisan, but I do think that their polls, they're in panic that they could very well lose

Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Yeah.

Well, I feel a lot better, Victor, than I thought I would have felt a month ago.

So I think things are trending right, but you never know what could happen over these next year.

No, you don't.

There's going to be October surprises.

Oh, there was one, Jack.

there was another one today

what

I didn't tell you there was a report that Mr.

Camilla Harris who impregnated the nanny and then slapped supposedly purportedly his girlfriend in Paris had a reputation at his law firm of having old boy drinking sessions where female colleagues were not allowed, hiring people that were unqualified, that flirted,

demeaning, being rude, slamming the insulting women, and earning a reputation as law firm as a

classical chauvinist pig, according to these anonymous sources.

Right.

So

that whole image of the new masculinity of waltz and

that didn't work.

It's okay if it allows you to clock a girl in a puss, you know, then it's all kosher.

Wait, be careful because there's two incidents.

You said clock and the puss.

You mean to hit somebody in the mouth.

Well, I did, yes.

Not to impregnate a nanny.

Okay.

I want to get that clear so we don't get some outraged look.

Thank you, Victor.

I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Okay,

we're going to talk about.

I don't want you to be rich Lowry is what I'm trying to say.

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One last thing maybe on Kamala Harris, Victor.

Oh, yeah, she's got a Glock, right?

But my old colleague at NR, Charlie Cook, did an interesting piece,

you know, where she has presided legally in San Francisco and in Washington.

The position she

took would have outlawed owning a Glock.

So I, for this, there's two questions.

One is the hypocrisy, and the second thing is, do we really believe she owns a Glock?

I don't even believe she owns a pea shooter.

Yeah,

I don't.

I think they have made it very difficult for those early models, and I don't know which one,

I don't know, I've shot a Glock before, but I don't know if it's a 43, whatever the model is, they've made it very difficult

in California in the past to have some of the earlier models that didn't have an indicator of the magazine or didn't have a distinct separate, not a trigger, but a distinct safety.

So my point is what everybody else has made, she doesn't seem to be familiar with firearms.

And

maybe it would have been easier just to say, I have a,

I don't know, a shotgun in the house.

We both, Doug, and I have a shotgun.

Yeah.

But to say that she herself owns a Glock, under California law, if that's registered to her,

it's if you're driving a car, let's say, and you are being carjacked,

and

your gun is in the

lock console or glove compartment, and you're wrestling around with the carjacker, and your wife then takes out the gun and then from another secure place, this is all theoretical, puts a magazine in it and loads it.

And then she shoots your gun.

I think she's going to be culpable for unlawfully using a gun that was not hers.

So

it's

what I'm I'm trying to get at, if you go, and I did do that, I Googled Glock.

If you go Google Glock,

handguns, California, and you will see that these earlier ones, I don't know what they were.

I said 43.

I think there were 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, all of those.

that have been

deemed unsafe by her.

And I don't know to the degree that's been reinterpreted or you could make after sale modifications.

But the point is,

she deliberately picked either the name that's the most common and people would know.

She wasn't going to say, I have a sink sour, right?

Right.

Or

Springfield Armory.

She said Glock because that's in the news.

Glock.

Single syllable Glock, shock value.

But she doesn't know that.

I don't think she even knows that her Attorney general career was aimed at Glock

to restrict it.

I don't even think that she knows basically what it is.

And I don't understand why reporters, if she owns a Glock, and why don't they just get a Freedom of Information Act and go see if she has a Glock registered to her?

Right.

And if it has her address and her name.

Not her husband, but just see if she has one.

I doubt she does.

But again, it's back, she's right back down to the McDonald's.

I don't need to tell you what location or what year I worked at McDonald's.

I don't have to tell you the serial number.

I don't have to tell you where I bought the Glock.

I don't have to tell you where it is,

anything, how many times I shoot it.

It's all, this is what happens when you're a person of the left.

And you know that your issues and your bio do not appeal to 51% of the people.

So you have to start lying.

And oh, what a terrible web we weave when we first begin to deceive.

And that's what she's doing.

She's wrapped up in so many lies that

they can't be reconciled.

She picked the right running mate

for the lying aspect.

It's a competition.

Who can

do the most?

But you're right.

These things should be, at least with a gun, that should be public knowledge.

I just want to say this.

I'm looking at Charlie's article.

When she was district attorney, she backed Proposition H,

which would, it was overturned by the courts.

It would have banned all handguns in the city.

And then, as a senator, she signed on to an amicus brief in the case of DC versus Heller that claimed that the Second Amendment contained no protections of individual rights to keep a bear arms and would have banned her position, would have banned all handguns.

So,

Victor, I think

enough about her, and I'm sorry to say, it looks like Adam Schiff is

leading handily in his.

I don't know.

When you say Adam Schiff, there's still a large number of people.

He's going to win, but there's still a large number of people that recoil at the very, when they associate the name to the sight of that guy

and they don't like him.

Whether they'll just vote for him because he's a Democrat, I don't know, but he will not do as well as a Democrat would have otherwise done.

And Steve Garvey is, I'm here in California, he's invisible.

He is invisible.

You don't see very many commercials for him.

You don't see, I get, you know, I get more mailings in the mail from local candidates than I do from him, statewide race.

He has no money, apparently.

I think he's much better than Adam Schiff.

I urge everybody to the extent that I...

that I would urge anybody, go ahead and vote for him.

But that campaign is either starved of help or starved of cash or something, but it's a self-campaign.

And maybe it'll explode in the next two weeks.

We'll see.

Maybe it will just be ubiquitous, but so far it hasn't.

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

Well,

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questions

and has been taken to the woodshed, first by the management of CBS and some peer, peer

other reporters and staff meeting this to to embarrass him and then there's some division within cbs like hr department race and equity or some freaking weirdo uh where he has had to then genuflect and i don't know be re-educated then you mean he went the they called out the race and culture unit unit That's right out of 1984.

So

well, the problem was, is that everybody told us he was a genius, that he wasn't a DEI writer, that he was just brilliant.

He was a style.

I tried to read things he's written.

They're almost unreadable.

But nevertheless, he goes in for a softball interview, and the interviewer asks logical questions.

If you're going to write the, you know, he's writing this messenger about his,

I don't know what he's trying to do with travel writer, but places that he thinks are islands of racism.

So he goes to Israel.

He's actually there right after

October 7th.

And as the guy pointed out, did you ever mention

the actual carnage of October 7th, the beheading, the mass rape, the dismemberment, the torture, the hostage taking?

No.

Did you ever mention the charter of Hamas that they want to destroy Israel?

Did you ever mention the long history of Israel and the Jewish people and the holy ground that goes back three millennia?

He didn't.

All he did is just walk around and write another screed thinking, you know what?

I have so melt the black thing and I can

look around and you know what?

It's dying.

The DEI people are being laid off at corporations.

Liberal professors are sick and tired.

of having DEI commissars say, this is your syllable.

Syllabus doesn't meet the DEI standards.

A lot of parents are saying,

my my kid had 4.5 and a perfect SET.

I'm sick of DEI repertory.

So the whole movement is starting to shatter.

Had a shelf life about four years after George Floyd.

And when it shatters, people like him will go down with it.

And he knows that.

His

career as a black comic book writer didn't seem to pan out what he thought.

He hasn't written, I don't know why these people just can't be people.

If he is a great writer and historian and cultural critic, why doesn't he just, I don't know, why doesn't he write a biography of Denzel Washington or something?

That's what he wants to do.

But that would take a lot of work.

And so he writes this stuff.

And by the way,

there was a guy at Wellesley, Tony Martin, and he was a Afrikana.

professor.

I spoke there once at the invitation of

Mary Lefkowitz about when she wrote Not Out of Africa and where she was really being hounded by the Afrikana people for telling the truth about Martin Bernal's book, claiming that Socrates was black and all of this stuff.

Anyway, this guy

wrote a book called The Jewish Onslaught.

And it was, you know, this was, I think it was in the 90s, mid-90s.

It was the Nation of Islam Farrakhan view that basically said all the slave trade was run by Jews, which was not true.

But Coates' dad has this classic black press where he's trying to get all of the classics that are supposedly not fully appreciated because of racist America.

And he has that book there, The Jewish Onslaught, is a reprinted black classic.

And why doesn't he talk about that then?

Why doesn't he just call his dad and say, you know, I've done all my research and this book is factually incorrect.

We can't put it in the Coates

corpus of black classics.

It just will be an embarrassing.

No, you can't do that.

So they got angry, not because

he asked questions, but that Coates couldn't answer them.

And therefore, he's a racist because he applied a standard

that he would to anybody else.

And this is, by the way,

As this DEI starts to evaporate, and you have these tens of thousands of people were hired with no demonstrable skills in other departments.

In other words, you have a DEI department, let's say an Ivy League campus.

You've got five or six grandees making, I don't know, 250,000.

They've got assistants, and then you've got secretarial or staff.

You've got a whole 10, $20 million budget.

And you're going to say, you know what?

There's a dwindling number of applicants.

We're going into maybe a recession.

People People are on our back about

student loans, six years to grad,

the politics, the Hamas stuff, the anti-Semitism.

Let's just get rid of this.

And what are you going to do with them?

Is the math department to say, oh, we want Professor Smith?

He's your DEI coordinator, but he was a very impressive mathematician.

Is the philosophy department?

Is it no, no.

because their degrees are in Africana studies or gender studies, whatever.

So

what are they going to do?

And I think the next DEI target will,

it'll be white racism privilege, but it'll be specifically Jews.

And they're going to target and say, you know what, the Jews and Israel.

And that's what Coates is now

pivoting to.

I don't like white people.

White people did all this to me.

They're terrible.

They should confess their guilt.

Oh,

you say they're sick of it and they don't listen to me anymore.

And Kendi bankrupt his center at Boston and

Beverly D'Angelo has no audience and even Kendi's con of the Zooms for 30,000 has no takers.

Well, okay, let's get together and get a new target.

It's Jews.

It's Jews.

That's who it is.

I'll write a book about how Israel is racist.

And I'll say that it's a terrible thing and da-da-da-da-da.

That's hanging out there for a long time.

You know, how 40 years ago, Timey Town, Jesse Jackson.

I mean, this is.

We talked about that.

I made the statement.

It's very hard to imagine a major black figure, whether you're like, this sounds illiberal, I apologize, but I want to be empirical.

So Farrakhan, no need to elaborate gutter religion, Jews.

Al Sharpton, I just had Michael Pack on, who did the Crown Heights.

That's when Al Sharpton said, come on over here with your Yalmuk and I'll take you on.

And

he's

he was always saying dim Jews we have Reverend Wright and says the Jews won't let me talk to Obama anymore he kind of peddles some theory that there were guided missiles that Israel had that could target Arabs

and then they're you know they could distinguish an Arab I suppose and then then we have just as you said Jesse Jackson Jaime Town Then we had the implosion of

Kenya West and the Jews were out to get him in Hollywood.

I could go on and on, but there's a pattern.

And then you look at the crime statistics, vis-a-vis hate crime incidents.

Jews make up about 2% of the population, 2% to 3%.

They account from anywhere from 55% to 75%, depending on the state of hate crime victims.

And then you look at the African-American and the DEI community, they're double the, or even in some cases, triple the number of,

triple the size of their demographics as far as the assault assultants go the offenders go of hate crime and so it's just there and this guy is riding that wave he really is ton of his eye

wow i just don't think people are gonna i think he went he jumped the shark i think he went a bridge too far i just don't think he's gonna be maybe it'll be a bestseller but he so they're trying to gin up controversy controversy right now.

So you and I are talking, everybody's talking about it.

That's the point.

But when you talk about it, he doesn't come off well.

He comes off as a multi-millionaire who's gotten every single award, grant there is, all to further his studies of black victimization.

And I think he's expired now.

I just don't think there's that many avenues, and he's going to have to make a real living.

So he's going into the new field of hate the Jew.

Well, Victor,

we are rounding the turn here, but you have written a very interesting piece on Renaissance people, and we're going to get your take on that.

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Victor, somebody named Victor Davis Hansen wrote, we are in need of Renaissance people.

Significant essay you did earlier this week.

Would you talk about that piece?

I was sparked to do so about the death of Chris Christofferson.

I'm not saying that he was the best country Western singer or writer, but his education and career kind of captured what used to be what we would call impressive, and he had attributes that enriched whatever he specialized in.

Because, you know,

oh, by the way, Jack, his father, I think, was either a first or second generation Swedish American.

I knew you were going to say that.

Yes, he was.

I think maybe his grandfather came from Sweden.

But he was a songwriter, an actor, country Western singer, musician.

He was in the U.S.

Army.

He has a helicopter pilot.

In fact, he reputedly landed on Johnny Cash's lawn to hand his wife a tape so he could get known.

He did.

Yeah,

he was a rugby player.

He was a boxer at Pomona.

Pomona is a very good college.

It was.

He was a Rhodes Scholar.

He has a degree in literature from Pomona and the University of Oxford.

Summa Kunlaud, he graduated.

I mean, he did it all.

I love

Janice Choplin's me and Bobby.

And for the good times.

Yeah.

I don't like necessarily Starsborn, but I really think one of the underappreciated Westerns is Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

It was really a scene with Slim Pickens when he's shot and Katie Girardo's coming over and they play knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door.

But he did it all is what I'm saying.

And he enriched every field he tried.

And so I went through and I said, you know,

Renaissance Florence, that 100-year period, that's where you saw people like Machiavelli or Galileo, but especially Michelangelo,

who came from northern Italy to work in Florence.

And then the native,

excuse me, da Vinci was a, he came into Florence, and then Michelangelo.

And they could do it all.

Michelangelo, you know, the Pietà and

David, the Sistine Chapel painting.

He was the architect of the dome on St.

Peter's at the Vatican.

And there were places in history, you know, and I mentioned Aristotle.

What could Aristotle not do?

He was a

tutor to Alexander the Great.

He was the master of logic, philosopher, biologist, mathematician,

pragmatist, founded the think tank of the Lyceum.

We had that with our founders, too.

And the two greatest ones were Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin.

I mean,

Jefferson was, I don't know what you'd say, he was president.

He founded the University of Virginia.

He was an agronomist, architect, inventor.

And And Franklin invented what the

Franklin stove, bifocals, the lightning rod.

He was an

ambassador, really helped us get recognition abroad.

Everything.

He was a participant in writing the Constitution.

And

they didn't have PhDs in one field.

I won't mention names, but one of the time I was writing something

about

later military history, and some scholar, I won't tell you where, said, you should stay in your lane.

Farmer, Farmer Hansen.

Yeah.

And I said, well, Graham Allison just wrote something called the Thucydides Trap, I said to the scholar, and

I wrote the introduction to Mark Thucydides, the best known, the best-selling.

I've written two or three esoteric articles for peer-reviewed journals on how he uses number, his grammar, his logic.

I examined him in two books.

But the point I'm making is, I welcome Graham to Allison.

I think that's great.

He doesn't know Greek.

He's never read Thucydides in Greek.

He's never looked at the manuscript tradition of Thucydides.

He's never, if you ask Graham Allison, could you please evaluate to what degree an event in Thucydides should be considered historical based on Thucydides' account, vis-à-vis later accounts such as Diodorus or Plutarch.

He couldn't answer that.

But does he need to?

His point was that a

established power gets paranoid when there's an upstart, like Sparta versus the upstart Athens, and then it preempts.

And you should be careful.

I thought that was salutary.

But we don't do that in our society.

We make everybody stay in their lane.

And the result is we don't have broad pragmatic people.

Then a guy comes along like Elon Musk.

And I mean,

everybody just looks at when he gets irreverent and he goes and, you know, tweets or how many kids he has.

But think about it.

Tesla is now a rival of Ford, Jim, and Chrysler.

And that's just amazing.

Just in a five years?

I can't even imagine that.

And all these people have these huge workforces and traditions.

And

my wife will testify that her Tesla has about 25,000 miles.

It's perfectly reliable.

It's a great car for commuting.

And

then he does

Starlink.

I mean, I'm out in the middle of nowhere, and my history of the internet is pathetic.

It's use.

It didn't work.

It's this dish.

It's that dish.

Only Starlink gave me rapid in the middle of nowhere.

And he did that in purple.

He did that in 100 countries.

He's saving the Ukrainians.

All their GPS-guided stuff is due to Starlink.

They're out there right now in the Carolinas and Georgia, thanks to him with online access.

And then,

no, it seems like he has to bail out NASA.

I grew up with NASA, NASA, NASA, NASA.

What happened to NASA?

Anytime they can't bring a person back and they're waiting for SpaceX to jump in and save them?

And then, you know,

this tunneling thing,

the boring company?

And then, you know, he's got those two new ones about Neuralink, about the kind of scary, the brain and the outside electrical world online, aligning them.

And he's got that AI company, OpenAI.

I think that's leading in artificial intelligence.

And of course, he probably paid 30 billion too much to get Twitter.

Then he refashioned it.

He opened it up.

He exposed how it shamelessly worked with the FBI to suppress accurate news accounts to favor the Biden campaign.

And he can do anything, and yet they hate him.

And if we didn't have that, one person has changed more lives in the United States than anybody else.

So,

you know, I quote Archilicus has

a very famous, the fox knows many things, pola in Greek, and the hedgehog knows one, n-mega, one big thing.

And are you either a fox,

you know, are you a fox that knows many things, but you're, you have wide breadth, but not as much depth, or do you know one big thing very deeply?

And that's the specialist.

I mean, there's arguments to be a specialist, but it seems to me that at this time and this place in our history, you really do need Renaissance.

Remember Richard Feynman?

He was a great physicist and

he was dying of cancer and he was on the Challenger.

Do you remember that?

When it blew up in 1988?

86.

86.

And he just sat there on TV and they couldn't figure out

what blew up.

They had O-rings and then he took those O-rings

and he put them in

cold water and then he put heat to them and they changed their size.

And he said, when those O-rings were on the platform, no one figured that they were of type of substance.

When they went up and it got colder and colder, they

contracted.

And then the fuels got past the O-rings and blew it up.

And

it was just, he used all of that mastery of physics into a broad, and he was, you know, he played bongos.

He was a really great guy.

And so this essay was,

let's get a few more Florentine people and less of Fauci

and,

you know, Burks and the specialist

because we've lost less.

Let's don't

get less of Jim Comey and Brennan and Clapper and all these people who say they're the expert at this particular thing.

Well, Victor, I think most of the people listening would nominate you for the Renaissance Canada.

No, You know who was really good at that was George Schultz, my former colleague at the Hoover.

He held more positions in the cabinet, in a cabinet than anybody else.

He was Secretary of Labor.

He was head of OMB.

He was Secretary of Treasury, and he was Secretary of State.

And then he ran Betchell Corporation.

The Betschel family had him run that.

And he was a writer.

He was all over.

He did almost everything.

I don't think

he didn't agree with me to the extent we came in contact.

I'm sure that

he wasn't as fond as me,

as I was of him.

But I really admired him because he was a Renaissance person.

And

we have a lot of them where I work, but we don't appreciate these people.

We make fun of them and stuff.

Okay, well,

don't sell yourself too short.

Now, speaking of short, can you do this in five minutes?

You have to do it in five minutes because we have to end this a little early today.

But there's this thing at Hoover called Strategica, and this guy named Victor Davis-Hansen is the editor, overseer of it.

And a new issue has come out about two weeks ago.

We weren't able to get to it in a couple of previous episodes.

And it has to do with

is permanent peace for Israel even possible.

This broader theme of Israel and its enemies.

So what I just cited was you have a few pieces in this issue and Jerry Hendricks writes the lead piece in the again, it's Strategica, go to Hoover and you'll find it folks.

And

it seems like peace, all roads to peace in the Middle East lead through Israel and Iran.

I may be just too comical and not comical.

Yeah, it's hard.

It's a very good issue, and it's got some of our best contributors.

David Goldman has one on

whether you can really destroy Hamas.

Michael Duran is a certified genius.

He is.

And he's got one about just a generic, can Israel win?

And then I really think that Jerry Hendricks, who's written a lot of good essays, this is his best, is permanent peace for Israel even possible?

But if you were going to summarize them, I think you would say there's two things.

that could allow Israel to have periods of long calm, 10, 20 years.

One is to deal with the theocracy in Iran that is using its $100 billion oil windfall to put what they call a ring of fire.

So Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas.

And what was the strategy?

Shoot rockets in, and then Israel retaliates, then stop.

Then let the Houthis do it, then stop.

Then let Hamas do it, then stop.

Then have Iran have a terrorist operation.

Or then Iran sends some Shia into

Syria or Iraq to shoot a rocket or kill an American or do something.

But the point is, never let the economy of Israel fully recover.

Never let international tourism get back.

Just create just a sense of terror and dread that's sort of damocleed.

So how do you stop that?

How do you say, you know, it's going to be like World War II.

We're going to defeat the enemy.

And can you even do that?

And one thing you have to do is defang and weaken Iran.

And that means,

I think it means you've got to get rid of their nuclear capability, at least so damage it that you hope they cannot recover from 10 to 15 years and maybe there'll be a change of government that will not want to seek nuclear weapon.

And then if that, I would simultaneously, and this is what the Biden administration is terrified about, is stop the export of oil.

and bankrupt them and they would have no money to their blood vessels and capillaries to their tentacles from the octopus head.

They wouldn't have any blood.

And that would be the second thing, and that's doable.

After all, Rand sent 500 projectiles into Israel.

Israel sent three.

So they're more than justified to reply, and I hope it's overwhelming.

But the second part of this equation is us.

I know that we're in a

weakened position with the current administration.

They've let the military fall.

We're short recruits.

The Afghanistan and humiliation

really hurt us, as did

the invasion of Putin, et cetera, et cetera, the Anchorage humiliation of Blinken and so on.

But nevertheless, if the United States just said to Iran,

You're not going to use nuclear weapons if you have them, and you shot them, and Israel is going to be

on their own, but they're going to

deal with you as they

see fit, and we're not going to intervene.

But we are going to intervene if you try to get the Russians or the Chinese in.

I can guarantee you that.

And if you kill any more Americans with your surrogates in Syria or Iraq, we are going to reply.

I think I haven't been critical of the Trump administration, but

when they took out Solemani, their idea was, well, that was such a shattering blow to Iran that Iran then made a deal with Trump and said, we're going to send over X amount of rockets, which they did do.

But of course, they told us that they were going to go in certain areas where if we kept away, it wouldn't hurt us.

And that's what Harris and Waltz are using as a campaign.

They say, well, Trump said he just got a headache.

Some people got traumatic brain from the concussion.

No one was.

you know, hit by the explosion itself.

But I think it would have been wise to have told Iran after we took out Solemani, no, no, it's not tit for tat.

You don't understand.

You have been, you killed 241

Marines.

We never responded to that.

You tortured CIA.

We never responded to that.

You never, you've killed Americans in the Iraq war, maybe a thousand with your shape charges.

We never responded to that.

That is our response.

Now, if you want to respond to Soleimani, it's a free country, a free world, go ahead.

But we want to warn you that every missile that you send anywhere in our direction is going to be met with 10 missiles.

And I think it would be a very different story.

Israel is dispelling every piety in the Middle East right now.

They said, oh, Hezbollah, oh my gosh, it's killed more people except for ISIS.

You cannot deal with it.

You've seen those clips of those soldiers with that goose-stipping.

goose-stepping Nazi look with beards, the berets.

They're all six feet.

They're just killers.

No, that nobody wants to run Hezbollah now.

You want want to be the second command third nope not me

uh one guy did and how long did he last eight hours yeah so they have humiliated hezbollah and i think if we let them go and i hope we do they will destroy hezbollah and that but what is that defined by destroy weaken to such an extent that they are considered pariahs and that allows other people in lebanon to regroup they're kind of like a virus that took over a body to get rid of the virus so that the body can recoup and be healthy again.

Lebanon, I went to Lebanon in 1973, right before

when I was, and it was a beautiful place.

It really was.

Hasn't been since.

But

so

it's Iran and the United States reaction.

But when you start telling people like Harris did that you support punishing Israel by suspending 2,000 pound bombs, which are necessary to be used in succession as a kind of a bunker buster to go through 60 feet of reinforced concrete.

And you say you're not going to give them, or you say that Hamas who still has Americans and Israel hostages that need a ceasefire,

it's not going to work.

I think this administration just has to say, you know what?

We don't like Israel and we hate Netanyahu.

And we, you know, Bob Woodward's book came out, The Gossiper.

Apparently in that book, as you saw, Jack,

he was reportedly said to an aide, I hate that SOB, Netanyahu is a blank, blank, the F word, et cetera, et cetera.

And that's just, you know, Harris wouldn't go to his talk.

They hate him, and they think they're going to have this really clever little gambit where they say

to the Arab American community in Michigan, we cut off Netanyahu.

You know, we agree with you.

Israel's crazy.

That's the subtext that they're telling them.

But it's Netanyahu.

It's Netanyahu.

It's not Israel.

And then they go to the Jewish community and say, you still got to give us money.

We're not anti-Israel.

We're out anti-Netanyahu.

And you should be too.

He's a right-winger.

Remember the Supreme Court and all that?

But the problem with that is that people who didn't like Netanyahu are saying, wow, nobody's ever done this to Hezbollah before.

And wow,

he's destroyed almost Hamal.

And wow,

he's going to deal with Iran.

I like that SOB.

Right.

And

I don't think that's going to work.

Yeah, man of action.

I don't think we should forget, Victor, that Joe Biden was the person who advised not to take out Osama bin Laden, right?

I mean, this is a guy.

Boy, you sound like Robert Gates.

He's been on the part of every bad decision that was made.

There was a Joe Biden in the room.

He used different phrases than that, but we don't curse on this program.

We don't curse.

We don't talk about Taylor Swift.

Those are the rules here.

No.

And

so anyway, I think that if you let Israel deal with their own security, because after all, what are we talking about?

On October 6th, The Gazans,

despite having billions of dollars hijacked for their tunnel city, they were about 20,000 that were coming in to work.

And it was supposedly peaceful.

I think it was naive to allow that to happen, but that's another story.

And they were not at war and Israel was not, Israel does not send rockets in.

Just accept it.

Just accept the fact that if

the Hamas had said, All this American money, all this EU money, all this UN money, all this Arab Gulf, it's billions of dollars.

You know what we're going to do to those Jews in Israel?

We're going to make our coast, which is naturally nicer than Israel's even, it's a little bit warmer, we're going to make it look like southern France.

It's going to be the Riviera of the Middle East.

And when we're going to get our Gulf friends in and

show us how to do the,

I shouldn't say show us.

There's a lot of Palestinian.

We're going to get all the expatriates to come back.

We're going to have high-rises, parks, and we're not even going to deal with Israel.

We like the wall.

We'll just shut them off.

And it's going to be our way.

We're going to get our way of getting back at Israel.

We're going to show you that we can do better than you can.

More tourists, mother, we have holy sites.

Why didn't they do that?

But they can't because they're nihilistic.

And it would be exactly like right now if all the Greek Cypriots, when they were forced out, of northern Cyprus, which was the more verdant, the more industrialized, the wealthier part of the island, and they were stuck in the southern part.

What happened?

50 years later, the southern part looks like the old northern part, and the old northern rich part is now looks like the poor southern part.

But I don't see Cypriots saying, you know what, we're going to strap on our suicide vests and go blow up Turks.

And the same thing with...

Germans.

After the German 13 million trudged back into Germany, I don't hear any today.

Maybe we will one day, but today they don't say, here are the keys to my grandfather's estate in East Prussia.

Oh,

the Poles have it now.

I'm going to go blow myself up and take it back.

So

this is the only ref, I don't see Jews today.

I don't say Jews.

When I went to Israel, I talked to a lot of Israelis.

I have over the years.

I have never met one Israeli who said, I had the most beautiful mansion in old Cairo.

Victor, did I ever tell you about my palatial home in Damascus that my family had for eight generations?

Did I ever tell you that my great-grandfather was a key leader in the medical community in Amman, Jordan?

Yeah, that's all true.

But they were all ethnically cleansed after the Six-Day War.

They said, get out of here.

We're taking your money.

We're taking your house.

About a million of them.

Get back into Israel.

I don't see them today blowing themselves up to retain that.

It's only this particular issue.

and it's time to move on and say, you know what, we're moving on.

And we hope the Palestinians just forget about Israel, use all the billions of dollars that come your way, use your talents, use your expatriates, and make the West Bank and Gaza look like paradise.

Yeah.

Stop building tunnels and build paradise.

Victor, you said moving on, and we have to.

We've come to the end, but I have to read something.

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Number three, power through Victor.

I live up north in the Puget Sound and walk my dogs every day listening to your wisdom.

Number four, living where I do, your perspective on the fall of Constantinople resonates clearly.

We or our kids are too rich.

No more words need to be said.

Number five, this is the last.

Thank you.

And like Radio Free Europe, you are the same voice we need.

And this is signed by Daryl from West Clinton, Washington State.

Thank you, Daryl.

Thank you, Victor.

Yeah, thanks for all the wisdom you shared today.

Victor, you were terrific as usual.

Thanks, folks.

for listening.

And the same

Sonny Sink, also known as Sammy Wink, will be back with Victor on the next episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

Bye bye.

Thank you.

Thank you, everybody.

I much appreciated it.