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Victor, Tanihisi Coates, you and he have crossed swords in the past, but he's got a new book out, The Message, I think is the name of it.

And I guess he's doing his usual pigment-related accusations, maybe that or more.

Victor, what are your thoughts?

Well,

he wrote The World in Me, and I couldn't finish that book.

It was sort of

everything's hopeless for blacks.

Blacks have never seen a garden in their life until I got to Paris and I saw one.

It's kind of callous.

There's some passages in there where he shows no

sympathy for people who died as first responders.

And everybody loved it because the wealthy elite that controls the media and the intellectual avenues in this country, New York Times, Washington Post, New York Review Review book, New Yorker, they all loved it because

they could use it as a

tool to show that white America, unlike themselves, supposedly was racist.

And he,

anyway, then he wrote a long thing in Atlantic about reparations.

And

everybody thought that was wonderful.

One of the legacies of it was the reparations committee, you could argue, here in California, a state that was never had slavery, that's $57 billion

in annual budget deficit right now.

27% of the state was not born in the United States.

And

I think we have about a 4.5% black population.

And he wants, I guess, if you would take him seriously, then we would borrow money from all these taxpayers to pay 4.5%

for

six generations away from slavery, three or four from the civil rights movement.

So he's not a serious person, but in this book, apparently, I've been reading the reviews about it, he goes to South Carolina, Africa, and then he goes to Israel.

And I think he's there two weeks, and he's decided that Israel is a racist state that has no right to exist and stole Palestine.

He has no idea what Palestine was, apparently, that

it was created,

you know, it goes back to the Philistine, it's a corruption of the word Philistine, it goes back to Rome, but there have been a 3,000-year steady, not a lot, but a steady continuous

residence of Jewish people, and this was the ancestral homeland of Israel.

But more importantly, it was

the only way it got to where it is now, the Ottomans took it from the Byzantines, and

they took it for centuries, and then the British took it after and during World War I.

And then they had this mandate, and it was

for a historical home of the Jewish people.

And it was to be shared with the people there.

And Jewish people started buying up land.

And of course, there was penalty's kind of capital crimes to sell to a Jew.

And then the civil war broke out.

And we saw.

exchange of populations and on and on and on.

And basically,

we're at the situation now where prior to October 7th,

Gaza wasn't, I mean, Gaza, his income had gone up.

It was a recipient of billions of dollars in foreign aid.

The corrupt government that held an election one time and then canceled al-Hamas

hijacked all of the money and built, you know, 500, 400 miles of subterranean

tunnels to do what they did on October 7th.

No need to get into Hezbollah.

So he goes over there and now he's writing that.

And what I get angry, because I'm not going to buy the book, but what I get angry is this idea that he gives these interviews and he said he's going to not be liked now,

that he's cutting edge.

No, you're not.

You're an African-American writer who's attacking Jews and

Israel.

Does anybody know any?

I mean,

well before you came into the scene, Mr.

Coates, Jesse Jackson called New York Jaime Town.

Louis Farrakhan called Judaism a gutter religion.

Al Sharpton dared Jews to come over.

He said, fight with him after Freddie's market.

It was no need to get into all of the

anti-Semitic traditions in the black community is deeply entrenched.

It goes way back.

It goes way back to

stereotypes in the ghetto that the pawnbrokers were all Jewish and the scavengers and the bloodsuckers, you all hear about it.

Al Sharpton voiced them,

were all preying on ghetto people, African Americans, and they made Jews rich.

And then the next generation perpetuated that anti-Semitism by coming up with the idea that the Holocaust endowed Jewish people with victim status, and therefore they were hijacking their

exclusivity on victim status via slavery, and now all of a sudden the Jews could trump that.

This is, I'm now

articulating what the black community was saying,

and they either denied the Holocaust, some other leaders like Farrakhan,

or they praised Hitler.

Or they said that the slavery was worse than...

So there was this animosity, which was highly ironic, Jack, because Jews were overwhelmingly liberal.

And during the civil rights movement,

they were at the point of the spear of the non-black community trying to help civil rights.

And

Israel, everybody knows, and he knows that, that

given the wealth of the Middle East, and I'm talking about trillions of dollars in capitalization in the Gulf,

Egypt, if they wanted to be, if it was run well, would be very wealthy with a monopoly on the Suez Canal, etc., etc.

Some of the most prime real estate in the world is, I've seen it, are the beaches of Gaza,

Lebanon, and Syria.

It's sort of like Anatolia to the north in Turkey.

But they don't want to capitalize that.

I want to get into the whole cultural, social, political reasons why.

Part of it is women are not treated equally in these societies.

They're autocratic.

There's no elections.

There's tribal factionalism, et cetera, et cetera.

So he goes over to Israel for two weeks and he decides that it was a crime to exist.

It should not exist.

It's a racist state.

And

they don't belong there.

They're white interlopers.

And

by the selection of that third of his book, apparently he

constructs this as the equivalent of white supremacy in the United States.

But

then, of course, after October 7th, this is very poignant because

he doesn't really seem to be bothered.

This is a cry of the heart, sort of like the professor at Cornell who said he was exhilarated, or

at Stanford who said that Jews should go to one side of the road.

He forgets one thing, though, that

there was a relative calm.

20,000 people were working in Israel at wages higher than they got in Gaza.

And

it was pretty calm in terms of Middle East definitions of calm.

Hezbollah was rocketing, but I mean, the 20,000 rockets occurred right after October 7th as part of a concentrated strategy, what they called the ring of fire.

The Houthis, Iran,

Hezbollah, and Hamas to send projectiles or use

terrorists to

end up with what they ended up with.

No tourism, no commercial flights,

80,000 people displaced.

So that's a society that he thinks is the oppressor.

You know what I'm saying?

Nine and a half, 10 million people in a sea of 500 Muslims who he says doesn't belong there, even though they have the oldest claim to the Middle East of any people.

Not the Turks.

The Seljuk Turks came into Asia Minor somewhere in the 11th or 12th century.

Byzantines were there before they were.

The Arabs' conquest of North Africa and the Middle East was the 7th and 8th century.

They migrated from

the East as well.

And the Jews were there.

I mean, they were the Second Temple was destroyed.

Vespasian and Titus destroyed Jerusalem.

There was the diaspora.

But there were still Jews who stayed there.

And

anyway,

of course,

the nation comes from God also, but

Coates is an atheist, so I don't expect him to.

No, he's an atheist.

And then, of course, there's a selectivity.

Why is it always the Jews?

Why not talk about,

you know, I have a very close friend,

and I mentioned it before, Max Nikias, he was the president of USC, wonderful president.

And he was a

he lived near Bela Pais.

I went there in 1973.

I didn't know him at the time.

He's my age.

And it was one of the most beautiful places in the world in Cyprus.

And then the 1974 invasion came, and the Turkish army invaded, and they ethnically cleansed the Greeks from the prime real estate.

They had been there since,

well, 3,000 years, or Mycenaean settlements.

There are not Islamic traces that go anywhere near where it's a Greek place.

It always was.

And so they ethnically cleansed and took,

drove them out of

Nicosia, Belopais.

And he was in, he fled.

I mean,

he came over here.

His family lost their property.

He came over here and he had nothing.

And he ended up.

I used to communicate with him on letters.

We were talking, he would write and I would write him about Thucydides and things like that.

And then he went from assistant to associate to full to assistant dean to dean to provost and to president.

And my point is this: does he ever talk about the Cypriots that are still displaced or the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey?

No.

No.

Does he ever say, does he ever say the Kurds are stateless because of Turkish policies and that there is no Kurdistan, they have no homeland?

Does he ever say that the Armenians were just ethnically cleansed

out of Karabakh just, what, two years ago, 150,000 of them.

They'd been there for over 500 years

from Azerbaijan.

Does he ever say this is terrible?

Does he, I haven't heard him say,

well, I haven't heard him say that western Ukraine and southern Belarus were Polish until 1939.

And

Hitler and Stalin drove them out.

And then to make up, and then they never gave back that, that Ukraine, they ethnically cleansed

between 1939 and 1945 they just ethnically cleanse all of the polish speakers and roman catholics from southern belarus western ukraine i don't hear them i don't see poles saying this is horrible and then they to make it up the allies said okay well we're not going to deal with joe stalin we're scared of him so

A lot of Germans, not all of them, supported Hitler.

So they took them out of East Prussia and they made them walk home.

13 million of them, 2 million die.

This is the same time that Palestine was created.

I don't hear any Germans today.

I've been to Berlin.

I've been all over Germany.

Nobody's ever came up and dangled the keys and say, this is my home in Danzig.

It's not Gdansk.

It's Danzig.

This is my home in Konisberg.

It's not Kalingrad.

I don't hear that.

So what I'm saying is that's a tragic exist.

I'm not trying to justify any of this.

I'm just trying to tell you that why do they just focus on this particular refugees?

And if he is going to talk about, why doesn't doesn't he talk about the near million Jews that were ethnically cleansed, especially after the 56 war, but especially after the 67?

They had lived there for a millennia in places like Damascus and Cairo and Amman and Beirut.

Did he ever say that was terrible?

Where would they have gone if there hadn't it been in Israel?

So,

you know, I don't.

You know, it just

baffles me.

And then this law, this laudatory, he's a brilliant, he's, you know, he just

remember he went and he was going to the, after he wrote the reparations and all this stuff, everybody said, we lost this talent.

He went to Hollywood.

He's writing screenplays.

He's writing comic books.

They're the beneficiaries of his talent.

It's not easy to write.

screenplay.

It's not easy to write a comic book.

I haven't seen any great comic books he's written.

I haven't seen, if you can tell me a movie he wrote, I haven't heard of it.

He disappeared.

Now he comes back by republishing, I guess, three essays.

And we're told this is absolutely brilliant.

And part of it is,

and then again, he always does what the left does.

I'm a victim.

People are going to be, I took great risk.

I attacked the elite Jewish lobby or the intellectual elite who are all, they're not all pro-Israel.

No, the whole intellectual elite hates Israel.

What does he think is going on in campuses?

If you go across the Stanford campus and you go into a hallway and you're and anybody asks you a question, on any venue, and you say you support Israel, do you think people are going to be happy about that?

If you're a law professor and you're at Stanford Law School and somebody asks you a question about the Middle East, you say, I would rather not answer it.

And they said, no, no, no, no, we want to know your views.

If you were naive enough to say, well, I think Israel has a right to exist and defend, you're done for.

And so to him to say that he's taking courage and he's going to offend people, no, he wrote it deliberately to win, to get entree back into the intellectual world that he left for the comic book world.

So it's not.

He attacked me when I suggested, when he wrote about the talk, you know, that all young blacks have to have a talk, that they were going to be

entering a racist world.

Well, I was on the Stanford campus and I thought, wow,

I don't see much racism here.

And if I could update that, since George Floyd, if you look at the admissions according to Stanford, they dropped the SAT

and they had 9%

white admittances.

I think that demographic's about 34% to 36%.

That didn't matter.

So I think the total white enrollment last year was 20%.

So there was a repertory admissions, and that had been true through affirmative action.

At least it had been proportionally represented.

So I wrote, I didn't say that, I just said, if you're a young African American and you work hard and you, and many of them do, you can go to almost any elite college you want.

And that's not true of a poor white per kid from Bakersfield or Kansas.

There's no room for him because the white quota is gobbled up by the bicostal elite who have contacts and influence.

And when you get rid of the SAT, there's no chance.

So for a working class kid that doesn't fit DEI standards to get in.

So for him to say that, you know, this is a very oppressive, and I had just mentioned, I had a talk too, and I said, my father drove my mother once up to a judicial conference, and he went to park the car.

He was surrounded by five young African males that tried to rob him.

And he didn't park in a bad area.

And he got got out of it.

I think he threatened one person and he said, let's go one-on-one.

And then he got in the car and he

got out.

But he always said, when you go to Oakland, be very careful.

So I wrote that.

And then I didn't just write it.

I looked at the crime statistics.

And I should say that interracial crime compared to overall crime is not very common.

People think it is.

It's about 8% of assaults and murders is one race.

And out of that 8%, it's about 6 to 1.

So when he says that you've got to get it, and as far as what his lecture was about, that blacks are being killed by policemen, go look at the data, go look at the Washington Post.

Of the 11 million encounters,

encounters, it turns out that blacks are shot while unarmed at about the same rate as their percentage in the population.

Of the people who are encountered, I'm not talking about the general population.

In other words, no more likely for a black unarmed person to be shot demographically and defining demographically as all those people who come in contact with police.

And, you know, if you want to go back again to

rare inter-racial crime, A white person is six times more likely to be the victim of an African-American assault than to assault an African-American.

If you want to look at Jews, because he brought up the topic of Jewish people vis-a-vis Israel, if he's worried about that, he should look at recent

hate crime statistics.

Jews make up about 50% of the victims, if not more, depending on where you do it.

And they only represent about 2% of the population.

And they don't commit almost, they almost commit no hate crime.

Who is overrepresented demographically?

DEI people,

people who would qualify as DEI.

So that's just a fact.

It's not racist to say that.

So for him to go out there and suggest that these imperialist, overdog Jews have gone in the Middle East and settled and displaced everybody and are oppressing everybody, and

he's been over to Israel once and he can...

It's just absurd.

It's absurd.

And

it's not going to alienate people.

It's going to herald him.

It'll be a new,

I haven't seen anything.

It'll be a New York Times bestseller.

It will be Amazon bestseller.

He will be on all the fawning talk shows.

And

half the people who will praise him to the skies will be Jewish.

Just a few.

He'll win some literary prizes also.

So this idea that he's oppressed, he's privileged.

Yeah.

Yeah, very.

I mean, just the MacArthur Prize.

what does that pay half a million bucks or something that he got i don't know i will tell you i i've seen a lot of i've seen a lot of underprivileged people living in a town whose per capita income is about fourteen thousand dollars and he's not he's not underprivileged

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Victor, this past weekend,

the

ex-old Twitter was a buzz

with this viral post by a woman, Clara Jeffrey, who is a chief editor, editor-in-chief, a big title at Mother Jones, a well-known lefty magazine for years.

And she was obviously on an airplane.

Here's what she,

I'm going to say tweeted.

I know that upsets some listeners, but creeping Christian nationalism alert at

Alaska Air, flight attendant just wished us a quote-unquote blessed night as we landed in SFO, that's San Francisco, exclamation point, to groans, other adjectives that would have sufficed, great, awesome, fabulous, amazing, fantastic.

As my

rowmate sitting next to her said, This ain't Montgomery, sweetie.

So, you know, social media lit up about Clara being so put out

by

a stewardess using the word blessed.

And actually, some folks went and found her own tweet history and a number of times that she used a blessed.

But the arrogance here that

someone so precious and so progressive and lefty cannot hear that word.

And probably by doing the tweeting, this,

you know, maybe subtlety was trying to get this light attendant put in the crosshairs of Air Alaska.

Anyway, Victor, this is just the latest example of

holier than Taoism by the Lord.

It's always

indicative.

We've talked about this so often, about live and let live.

People who are conservative are too busy to get in other people's business, by and large.

So they're for gay tolerance.

They have no problem with it.

They even conceded gay marriage, although that was mostly done by the courts.

But the left can't leave it that way.

They have to have transgendered or, you know, males as women in sports, where it's dangerous to female in some sports.

So they just can't live that everybody can, you know, blessed is not necessarily an offensive word.

So they can't let it alone.

They always have to react.

And they always have to bring it to a point of contention.

I don't know how many left-wing people in my family or friends I've had, and I swear this is the truth, they have said to me, let's not talk about politics.

And you know what?

Why, why not?

Well, let's just get along.

And you say, God, thank God.

And then, by the way,

Trump, or by the way, George W.

They can't leave it alone.

It's 360, 24-7 with them.

Every single thing.

They feel they're on a missionary trajectory to change the United States.

And it's holistic.

It's culture, it's social life, it's political life, it's economic issues.

And they always have to

make some comment.

They just can't let it alone.

And everything becomes political.

And

that's just the way we are.

Gosh, I did,

I haven't done it, but I was just thinking, you know, if you go to a Google search,

if you wrote, you know, if you wrote something like death by police, being killed by police, or you said death of police, it wouldn't matter.

It wouldn't matter.

They would have most of the stories would be police killing people because they politicize everything yeah if you like and I've done this before search of death of I was thinking that when you brought it up death of police they will the the entry the search results will be death by police right and they have done these algorithms and Google's a good example they can't just be a retrieval they have to put politics into it well maybe Victor we should same thing with universities they cannot leave it it alone.

They can't leave a history class alone.

They cannot leave a literature class.

It just has to be

at all.

Shakespeare, I was just reading that the other day.

Shakespeare is a white supremacist

genre.

Yeah, you could get an.

I believe in certain schools, you could, colleges, you could get an English degree, English major, and not

have read Shakespeare because of his.

All of them.

All of them.

I saw that at Cal State Fresno when I before I retired and I just can't let it be and

I don't think conservatives are saying

I mean they may not want their kids to look at you know a cartoon in the library of two people engaging in anal sex or something but that's another thing they just

By and large, they'll say, you want to go do that?

You go do that.

Just don't,

you know,

you really saw that in that tape.

A young man had a passive homosexual act.

He was a congressional aide.

He just couldn't let it be.

Remember, he taped that?

He taped that of himself being serviced, and then he had to put it out or

then he made it into a civil rights issue.

I'm not going to apologize for whom I'm.

whom I'm loved by.

It wasn't about that.

It was about common decency.

And

it just, it gets overwhelming that in your face 24-7.

Well, you mentioned before about Google and calculating, and maybe we should talk a little more about that because Donald Trump has issued a threat.

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We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show recording on on Sunday, September 29th.

And this episode will be up on Thursday, October 2nd.

And if you were thinking you're going to get Victor's take on

the Walls Vance debate, well, this is recorded before that.

But tomorrow, tomorrow's episode of the Victor Davis-Hansen Show, Victor and the great Sammy Wink will be discussing that debate and

what it means for this election, which is coming around the home stretch.

Victor, the Media Research Center, our dear friends, Brent Bozell, who've been my great friend for years, they put out some report this week

looking at Google's search results.

No surprise.

This has come out time and again.

Everybody knows it who uses Google.

Peter Schweitzer wrote a book a few years ago.

I think it was called The Crooked Line, about how these internal algorithms, you're looking for Trump news, Trump campaign, and the first 10 things you're going to get are about Kamala Harris.

And maybe

so Donald Trump is like, you know, when I get in office,

I may take action against Google for putting its, more than its thumb, I think it's old damn hand and body.

You should be very careful.

You see, he's honest about that.

And he says, this is wrong, what they're doing.

And everybody knows that.

And I'm going to see if I can do something when I take office.

They don't do that.

They say, how dare you do that?

You're weaponizing the government.

You've got to do it like we do.

Now, what we do is we don't tell anybody, but we get the FBI to work with Twitter and to work with Facebook and to partner and suppress all information about Hunter Biden's laptop right before an election to warp the results.

That's how you do it, Dong.

You don't just go out wildly and crudely and make charges.

You stealthily and non-transparently do it.

And that's what we do.

That's how we go after school board members that we want to get out, that we feel are not, you know, that people who are going after school board members, we go after these parents at school board meeting.

This is how we go after anti-abortion.

We just get quiet about it.

And we, this is how Lois Lerner does.

We go after nonprofits that we think that are going to help defeat in some way Barack Obama.

We don't want, but we do not announce it, and we take the Fifth Amendment when we're called on it.

And that's the difference, that Trump just completely

sometimes crude, boisterous,

I'm going to go after you.

They don't do that, Mr.

Trump, President Trump.

They're a lot sneakier and smoother, and they're a lot more.

50, 51 conservative

experts,

not one of those people.

And you know what?

They just had a

letter of, I wrote a column about these phony letters, and the day it came out, it's too late for me to incorporate, 700 national security so-called experts and authorities.

I think Fred Fleitz wrote about that in American Greatness.

They came out and said that.

Camilla Harris is a sophisticated, knowledgeable, sober, and judicious foreign policy expert, and Donald Trump doesn't, who was president for four years, the only four years that Vladimir Putin didn't cross into somebody else's border.

The Middle East, according to Jake Sullivan, was completely calm, but he doesn't know anything.

And you know who signed that?

I think it was nine of those 51 discredited intelligence.

Oh, really?

Yes.

You know what?

The first thing he should do?

He should

yank every national security clearance of those 51 people.

Anybody

who deliberately signed a letter and which they knew was false, the FBI had that laptop, and it had been leaked that it was authentic, and they had no evidence it was Russian disinformation.

It was cooked up by Anthony Blinken and Mike Morrell.

And they'd lied right before the last debate.

And Joe Biden used that lie to refute Trump.

And there was one Republican poll said that it affected people's views of the election.

And then they worked to make sure the New York Post and other venues did not allow that to be reported, that it was fake, the letter that the laptop was genuine, and they've never apologized.

They should have all of their security.

They're on trusty worthy people.

They should not have a security clearance.

Yeah.

There's too many security clearances issued anyway to these people.

John Brennan should have never had one.

He lied twice under oath to Congress.

James Clapper should never have one.

He lied under oath to Andrew McCabe lied three to four times to federal investigators.

He should never have one.

None of those people should have them.

Yeah.

By the way,

if you were talking about the 100 Republicans, or was there a bigger list of 700?

Because it was that 100 Republicans.

I was telling Dan Mahoney, our friend, about it, and I said, who was reading off some of the names, and one of them was Winston Lord.

And he says, you know, Winston Lord was the guy way back.

They've been troublemaking these guys for years.

He's the one that helped keep Solzhenitsyn from visiting Gerald Ford

in the White House way back, which was actually doing the bidding of Russia by not letting the great

critic of the Soviet Union.

So these guys have just been game players, Victor, for decades.

And you know who I was shocked?

Because you brought it up, and I'm just doing this by memory.

You know who else sighed that?

Alberto Gonzalez.

Yes, yeah.

And I couldn't believe that.

What they said about him, they said he was incompetent, that he was, remember they said he was crooked, that he'd hired his wife, that this was just

and he was thinking, remember he was being floated around as the Supreme Court.

And they just went ballistic about that.

It wasn't just Dick Cheney, but it was people like that.

And,

you know, what's really weird about it is these are people as conservatives that all of us supported and felt that they had been unfairly demonized by the left.

And

it was, yeah, you know, it was,

and then just to see these people to do that.

And what I'm getting at is they have a perfect right to do it.

But the problem is

that it's inconsistent with everything they've said and everything they've advocated and all of the support they've asked for in the past.

You know who else was in it?

The National Review connection,

Christopher Buckley.

Yes.

Well, Christopher was.

Yeah.

I don't know what his, what was he in the well?

Christopher's relationship with National Review ended in 2007.

What was his government?

He had a government.

He was.

I know I want to be Christopher is my old friend, but he was a speechwriter, wasn't he?

He was a speechwriter for

George H.W.

Bush back then.

I'm not saying there weren't.

I mean,

remember the guy, he was very good, Chester Crocker.

He was his

ambassador.

I was surprised.

John Negroponte.

He was kind of.

Yeah.

Eric Edelman.

He was there.

But most of them, no one.

I think Glassman used to be a guy who was

in Voice of America or something.

Yeah, Jim Glassman, right.

He was at AEI.

I'd met him before.

And then there were the familiar, you know, Michael Hayden.

He's completely disgraced.

He was the one that compared Trump's border to Auschwitz.

And

of course, there was Adam Kinsinger, too.

Yeah.

But Victor, there's this qualitative thing.

And I think we discussed it last week.

Okay, you don't like Trump, you don't like Trump.

But to say we endorse

Kamala Harris's is that is

contrary to what they said.

So what I'm saying is about, I don't think, I mean, I'm not suggesting that pundits or people who write

should

have any, you know, should be sacco-sanct.

I'm just saying that when you write political commentary, these people

and their flacks, they call you up and

you don't listen to them.

I don't.

But the point is, you get the impression that they feel outnumbered and that they are treated very badly because of the mainstream media is all left-wing.

And so they appreciate disinterested commentary.

But the only reason a person would write commentary is because their views would be consistent and they would represent a conservative traditional approach.

And if they're going to vote for Kamala Harris, this is not voting for Bill Clinton in 96 or something.

This is completely different.

This is a hard, the most left-wing voting record in the U.S.

Senate.

Demonstrably so.

And you're now endorsing her over a conservative that reflects 90% of the positions you had on Afghanistan, Israel, the Middle East, China.

It doesn't make any sense other than they feel that The Republican Party has gone in a particular direction where they don't have the amount of

influence that they think is commiserate with what they deserve.

And they blame the mega people for taking away those avenues of influence and career wealth.

Agreeing with Hillary's observation that they are deplorables and they do not want to be associated with deplorables.

I think that's really at the heart of it.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

Hey, Victor,

speaking of deplorables, some of them are, there's some really, really

nasty, race-based stuff happening out in Minnesota, and we've got something going on with Amy Wax, but we'll get to some of these, but

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story, I think we'll hold off

after the next break because it's really worth, and not that anything here isn't worth your commentary and thought, but here's a really,

I guess, is anything surprising anymore in America?

I don't think so.

Taxpayer-funded, this is from the Daily Mail, taxpayer-funded Minneapolis food pantry bans white people.

Here's the headline.

The story, the boss of a a Minneapolis food pantry funded by city taxpayers, Ushmos, has banned white people from taking advantage of the resource.

Mykila Kiko Jackson used a Minnesota state grant to launch the Food Trap Project Bodega, designed to help poor and hungry residents living close to the Sanctuary Covenant Church in the north of the city.

The pantry opened up on July 27th, but within months, it has been forced to close and relocate away from the church grounds after Jackson attempted to block white people from accessing the service, including a local chaplain who complained.

A sign on the door to the pantry read how the food inside was specifically for quote blacks and indigenous folks only.

Folks is spelt F-O-L-X.

After a civil rights complaint was made against the pantry by a local, Mykela accused the complainant of political violence.

That's always the case.

Yeah, go ahead.

You can be biased, prejudicial, and then as soon as somebody calls on, then you're a victim.

And

that's the refuge of all scoundrels, victimology.

And, you know, we've had,

well, since 1965,

we've had almost six decades of repertory redress and efforts to ensure equality of opportunity.

And when that didn't achieve

the desired results quick enough, we'd have equity.

That is equality of result, equity, equality.

We've done all of this.

And I think as we get to be, this is not a 88%

white, 12% black binary anymore.

This is a multiracial society in which roughly 70 to 68%

say they are white, and within that group, a large percentage are of mixed race.

And then we have 12 to 13% African American.

We have 10% Latino, probably 8 or 9% Asian.

So my point is that we're all mixed up in this old idea that we're going to, I mean, whites are not the majority of population in California.

The largest minority, majority is Hispanic.

And even in the Hispanic group, about 25%

do not marry Hispanics.

So

what I'm getting at is this old binary that you can't, white can't do this and this, it doesn't work anymore.

And it just creates a backlash.

Because the other part of this racial essentialism that people don't understand,

when you're talking about adults now,

you're talking about someone that was born in 2000.

They didn't grow up in 1990s, 1980s, 1970s.

They don't know anything about Jim Crow.

They don't know anything about...

They grew up in the age of affirmative action.

They grew up in the new vocabulary where you had too many

racial victims and not enough racial oppressors.

So you started to get an entire new vocabulary of micro.

If you can't find an aggression, then you say it's a microaggression.

If you can't find overt racism or racism, you say that's because it's like error.

It's systemic.

It's systemic racism.

Or you say it's insidious racism.

So that's the world they grew up in.

And

to tell them that they can't go into a place because they're white,

it doesn't have anything, any connotation other than it's racist.

And,

you know, I grew up, I was fortunate that I saw that because I grew up in a community that was predominantly Hispanic.

And I went to Eric White's school and Jefferson School, where it was 90% Mexican-American, 90%.

And my high school was probably 50%.

And my town today is probably 90%.

So when I heard the N-word, and I heard it a lot, it did not come from white people because there wasn't enough of them.

Not that they were any morally better than anybody.

I came from Hispanic people.

And when I heard people use

epithets about Asians and other people, and what I heard about white was I

heard white trash, I heard okie, but especially gringo.

I heard gringo my entire life.

Hey, gringo.

Hey, she's got a gringa.

He's got a gringa girlfriend.

I heard that all the time.

So my point is not

to point out Hispanics, but just to say that people are human.

And in a multiracial society today, we're starting to see the traditional binary break down.

So this stuff, and I think you're going to see it

break down completely in the next 10 or 15 years where racial essentialism just isn't going to work because you don't have enough oppressors.

Everybody is in a particular racial or gender or sexual orientation group that claims

victimization and therefore repertory treatment of that victimization, but they can't find the victimizer.

So, when they say they're not going to prove serve white people, why is that?

So, if a white I go to, when I walk through San Francisco, I see more white homeless people than I do black.

So, is there not enough white homeless people?

They want more of them or what?

Why would they not let a homeless white person who was poor have food?

Doesn't make any sense.

And it does make sense that

that person who was so overtly racist and senses that the white elite who may be involved in the funding or the administration at a higher level of that program feels that's okay

because to do so makes them feel less guilty or they feel for a careerist move, it resonates.

Virtue signals before you feel like you can do that and tim walls is going to say

yeah you can well he let the town burn for 24 hours yeah his wife said that she rolled down the windows to get a sniff of the burning tires her daughter his daughter went on twitter and warned everybody that was in the street to go ahead and do whatever they were going to do because she had it on inside knowledge that the national guard was not going to be called out

and that's the guy that we're going to put in as the vice president of the United States.

God help us.

So I think it's everybody's tired of it.

They're just sick of it.

They don't,

it's not a white black or white brown or brown black.

It's just sick of the whole racial essentialism.

Why just forget it?

Just treat people as people.

Well, something else to be sick of, Victor, is this action the Biden-Harris Justice Department is taking to keep

illegals on the voter rolls in Alabama.

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Biden-Harris D-O-J sues to keep illegals on voter rolls, and this is in Alabama.

They're suing Alabama that was trying to take several thousand clear illegals off.

But, well, it's being done within 90 days of the election, and we're going to stop this.

I thought,

doesn't democracy die out?

No, the point of all these suits, and

there were some in Arizona, the point is not just to get people off the voting rolls that are not citizens.

It's twofold.

To show that there's nothing wrong with illegally voting if you're not a citizen.

They don't believe that only citizens should vote.

They've said that.

In Berkeley, they have, I think, Cambridge, Massachusetts as well.

They have school board elections where illegals vote.

So they don't feel that citizenship is any qualification to voting.

And number two, it's deterrent.

So they're trying to tell people,

A,

go ahead and vote.

if you're not a citizen because we'll sue and we'll probably find out that it was okay and you won't be subject to a criminal statute on appeal.

Or

don't make a law against it or don't reiterate the existing law.

And that's one of the weird things about today.

The left has so changed the playing field that the right has to always introduce laws that are already on the books.

You know what I mean?

You can't come into the United States.

We're going to have a bipartisan immigration law that says that you have to obey the existing law.

Or, you know, we're going to have a new statute that says that you can't register if you're an illegal alien or you're here illegally or you're not a citizen legally.

But it's already there, but nobody enforces it.

So it's a message, and they know what they're doing.

That's the whole point of open borders.

And the whole point ultimately is: we get back to, as we've said in our earlier broadcast,

they don't have confidence in the agenda.

It is a utopian socialist

equality of result agenda

and they don't think most people like it.

It's contrary to human nature.

They know it.

They know their economic plan.

They know their race plans.

They know their open border plans.

They know their Green New Deal plans.

They know their

lack of deterrence plans abroad.

That doesn't appeal to people.

So they have two choices, either change the constituency or deny that that's their plan and adopt the very opposite for 90 days.

And that's what Camilla Harris is doing.

In fact, she did both.

Change the constituency by bringing in 10 to 12 million people.

And don't say that you ever were for something that

you've been for your whole life.

Pretty simple.

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Amy Wax

is a controversial, independent.

I don't even necessarily want to call her conservative, but she's certainly not liberal or leftist, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, Ivy League School.

And I'm going to read this little intro from John Solomon's Just the News.

And maybe our listeners know that the Victor Davis Hansen show is produced by

justthenews.com.

Penn Penn formally announced this past Tuesday, that would be about 10 days ago from when this broadcast is out, it will suspend Amy Wax for the 2025-26 academic year, claiming it's not for her outspoken conservative views, but rather, quote, years of flagrantly unprofessional conduct within and outside the classroom that breached her responsibilities as a teacher to offer an equal learning opportunity to all students.

And

that's all I'm going to read, Victoria.

Yeah, that's demonstrably untrue.

They don't like her because she was,

let's say, insensitively honest.

In other words, she told the truth, but the truth they felt was uncomfortable to too many people and was against their interest.

Now, you can argue that maybe they have a right to censor free speech, but she basically said things such as

that it was her experience, given the admissions policy of her law school,

that African-American students,

I think she used traditionally or predictably or usually, did not score in the top one-third or one-half of her class.

That was true.

People had fact-checked that.

Now, they could have said they didn't do it because

the LSAT was not applied.

They didn't make the LAC, so they were put in an impossible situation being admitted to a school where there was a level of rigor they were not prepared for, or they could have said that

They didn't do well in her class because they felt hostility.

Those are all legitimate counters, but it's not legitimate to say she didn't tell the truth, and she did.

And she also said that

we were committing cultural suicide.

She came to the Huber Institution and spoke.

So I heard her give one of her regular speeches.

Most of the discourse, the induction, the way that we conduct universities, the idea of a university, the idea of,

and she was Jewish, she said came from the Anglo-American traditions of Western culture and particularly

the added addition, now don't get mad, Jack, of the Protestant work ethic.

And she said that that

had been predominantly the American mainstream for so long that it had been entrenched and it was more good than bad.

And that was pretty blunt and they got so angry.

The weird thing about about the latest attack on her was, if what she said was accurate, and I think it is, they were willing to almost to drop it all and she just shut up and not go public about University of Pennsylvania Law School.

But she didn't do that.

She had been much easier on her than she did.

I spoke with her privately when she came for 20 minutes.

I found her completely honest, completely, almost to her detriment.

There were no

hedging.

There was no, I shouldn't say this.

I don't know Victor.

Maybe he'll tell people.

They were just honest.

And I think she's that way with everybody.

And that's what they cannot tolerate.

They can't tolerate because they don't have confidence in their ideas.

They can't defend them.

And that's why they.

I saw her speak this past weekend at the Philadelphia Society.

First of all, she didn't bring this up, which is interesting.

Anyone else on the left probably would have brought this up

and just for the sake of becoming a martyr you know right then i'm a victim she there's not an ounce of that to her the subject matter was about conservatism she stayed on the subject and was really really smart lady um

i'm glad she's fighting i hope some i hope some of the alumni that that give money to the school will will uh

Oh, they have in the past.

They have.

They've said they didn't want to give any money to the law school.

That's probably why she's still there.

It's not because that they honor the traditions of tenure or free speech.

And by the way, when you talk about free speech, did you see that panel?

A lot of people sent it to me of John Kerry the other day saying that

this election is the most important because it's about

the ability to censor people on social media, that this is out of control, that one side is lying, that people go to their news, and that this is, it's hard for democracy to work.

And I thought, you know, there's something to that.

That's kind of true when Facebook and Twitter censor the New York Post because they want to promulgate the 51

intelligence authorities lie about the laptop or the Russian collusion lie or the alpha bing

alpha bank ping ping lie.

Yeah, or the lie that Hillary Clinton didn't destroy 30,000 emails and destroy the hard drive lie, or she hid her payments to Christopher Steele through Fusion GPS, the DNC, Perkins-Coey, that lie.

Or maybe the James Clapper lie

that

he

I should say the John Brennan lie, that he didn't spy on Senate staff computers or there was no collateral damage or the James Clapper lie that the NSA doesn't spy on Americans.

So they all lie and yet

you never see that in the social media.

So what he's basically saying to translate John Kerry was,

I'm very worried because the former monopoly of and current monopoly, I'm translating what John Kerry said.

Right.

I listened to his little monologue.

And what he was really saying was the monopoly of the old Walter Cronkite network news, ABC, CBS,

NBC, and the Washington Post and the New York Times and the LA Times and the Chicago Tribune, and more recently with the NPR and PBS, that monopoly, which still controls about 85% of the news, is unfortunately challenged by dissident voices who are not sufficiently woke or progressive, i.e., Newsmax, Fox News, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson,

Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, and all of these renegade alternate media affect about 15% of the population can get a different narrative, and that's too much for us to survive.

That's what he was saying.

And therefore, we've got to outlaw these people.

Yeah.

You know, one other thing we were talking, I just came to me.

We were talking, and I think it was reported about Mitt Romney.

We were talking about those hundred

experts that

everybody had supported.

Republicans who endorsed Harrison.

Yes, yes.

Well, they had him on a news clip,

Romney, and he's gone out of his way to show he hates Trump.

Right.

Trump kind of trolled him.

I mean, he had some grievance when after calling Trump, you know, fake this and fake that.

Trump, remember when he was elected in that inner period, he actually interviewed him for some time.

Had him to dinner in New York.

It was very public.

Yeah, and I didn't think he was.

And he was trying to humiliate him.

And it was not hard to do because when Trump, when Romney ran, remember he went into Trump Tower, I think, on two occasions to ask for his endorsement.

Right.

Trump's endorsement.

And he got it that one time against Obama.

And anyway, what he was saying, they said, well, and then he, I think Trump endorsed him for Utah senator, too.

And every time he says a terrible thing about Trump, Trump endorses him.

So they ask him, you know, we got all these people who have come out saying

they're not going to endorse Donald Trump and they're Republican.

And are you going to join?

And he couldn't do it.

And he said he was worried about his family's safety, given what people had said about

the Romney family from the left.

And then he was talking about, you know, that he was going to put black people in chains.

And remember, I think the late Christopher Hitchens wrote that article about him, which is really cruel about his magic, you know, Mormon underwear.

Magical underpins.

Yes.

Remember Christopher wrote, well, you better tell us right now if you wear or not magic underwear.

And then there was, remember the dog cage that he was cruel to the binders of women and the cutting the hair in prep school or yes cutting the prayer didn't talk to his garbage man was

they said he was hitler then he was a scavenger a financial vulture all of that stuff that that was really they even attacked him a lot more than what they said about mccain was senile and everything

but uh i guess that was he felt that all that had so demonized him that i guess he can't forgive them enough to endorse Camilla Harris.

Not that he's going to endorse Trump.

Well, we'll take the non-endorsement if we can get it.

Two things, Victor.

One, Paul Ryan came out.

He's no Trump fan.

But I'm not voting.

I can't endorse Harris.

This is crazy.

I'm going to write in someone's name.

I don't know how I'm not claiming that.

Yeah, I know, but he...

If you're a registered Republican and you

say you can't vote for Donald Trump, but you're not going to vote, you're not voting.

That's not helping the Republican.

Well, no, it's not.

It's not.

You still want Donald Trump to lose.

But okay, but the other thing I thought of with Romney bringing him up, and I mentioned that like the scandal when he was in prep school or whatever, that he

wrote about that.

He cut the hair or some guy.

Well, they were all over

the media.

Where's that, you know, a tenth of that interest?

We talked before about kamala harris working at mcdonald's where's the intrepid reporter finding you know the the mickey d's that she actually you know worked at the difference is if anybody did that their career would be over with sure if anybody's said to tanahese coates in an interview what you just said is anti-semitic why do you hate the israeli jewish state their career would be over with remember the crap the nbc reporter got to say about john fetterman you know like he was

that money was

incoherent like I am right now.

No, no, everybody understands that.

They prepped the battlefield.

And that's why,

as a general rule, that's why Republican candidates generally talk more and they're more interested in issues because they've had more experience, not because they're better educated necessarily or better spoken, it's just that they're so they're attacked all the time and they have to explain themselves and they have a hostile media.

And what happens is the left gets makes everybody flabby on their side because they just assume like Camilla Harris, I don't have to do an interview.

The interview will be a softball.

If I don't answer the question, Stephanie Ruhl will say, she doesn't have to answer the question.

She says, it's just an interview.

What do you expect?

An answer to a question?

That's what they expect.

And it just, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that they're going to be flabby in their answers

yeah

well victor um we're at the end of this uh escapade i wish we had time but we'll next podcast we hope there's a new um issue of strategica out of

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Folks looking at, you know, sidetracked on these stories about ducks, geese, cats, dog, whatever the hell.

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Your political social commentary, spot on.

I especially like your historic teachings, particularly those in World War II.

My uncle was at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, and I remember him telling me about pulling men out of the oil slit.

He was a great guy, passed about 30 years ago.

But we need to keep our memories of all those who have fought and died against tyranny alive, for they have saved us from despotism.

Thank you for your wonderful work.

And this is signed,

Not

THP.

So thanks, Not.

That was very nice.

And I should tell everybody that I have a 10-part

on the Ultra, on my website, 10-part reply to the Darryl Cooper

take on World War II that I disagree with.

And

the one I think that's up now was his allegation that Churchill was a chief villain of World War II.

And I try to, I think I refute that.

I'm trying to keep them each to 700 words, but I wrote about 7,000 or 8,000 words essay on the idea of revising World War II to suggest that we, the allies, America in particular and Britain, were culpable.

We weren't at all.

Right.

And but that's coming now from, it used to be all the left.

And now, I mean,

their whole thing was the Soviet Union was underappreciated.

They were treated badly.

Soviet Union broke every agreement with everybody.

They were the worst of all.

Yeah, this is.

Except for Hitler.

Yeah, but this one is on the right, and

it blames the hero of that narrative is really Hitler, to tell you the truth.

And that's what's so disturbing about it.

Victor, I don't know that this emanates from this, quote, integralist group on the right who

find

America at its core, at its finding,

a bad thing.

I'm kind of shocked that conservative, I don't know how you can be a conservative.

What does conservative mean?

It means you can serve, you can serve our values, and at least you appreciate the uniqueness of...

But there's a cabal out there that thinks America at its very

foundation is corrupt and evil.

So there's a lot more educating

that needs to be done.

There is.

well you're you're the greatest of the educators if i may say so so uh thank you for all that no it was kind of a little strange though i spent most of my life in the university and in books and reviews defending the american idea and western civilization in general

and i did review patrick buchanan's book 2008 which was kind of a revisionist World War II book, blaming the Allies in Churchill.

But then, you know, as some people wrote in response to this series, I have, Victor, you're giving him too much currency.

No, that horse left the barn when we did a 70 million person interview with Tucker Carlson.

That had more listeners than best-selling books do.

And so even though he wasn't an author and subject to scrutiny,

and peer review or editorial review, I think it's important still to

show if the evidence warrants, and I think it does overwhelmingly so, that he was wrong.

Churchill was a wonderful, brilliant guy.

He had faults, but by and large, he saved the Allied cause for a year until we got into it.

Stalin was a monster, but a useful monster for three years.

Hitler was innately, purely evil.

Mussolini was an evil buffoon.

but buffoonish.

And Tojo and the Japanese militarists were the greatest killing machine in the war as far as the number of people killed versus the number they lost.

Probably killed almost 18, 20 million people, which wasn't

the greatest.

Hitler killed more than that, but they didn't lose as many people.

Right.

They lost about half the number of fatalities as Germany did.

So they were a very efficient, ruthless, murderous.

Yeah.

I don't know where that came from.

I'll talk to you about that sometime.

Where do you think that comes from in the Japanese or came from in their

it was an authoritarian society, but Japanese had been democratic

in the 1920s and they had been a good ally in World War I.

It doesn't come from the Japanese people innately.

I mean, they are a monoracial society and they are, you know, a lot of people.

in a very small territory, 120 million or something.

So

they have to have more rules and regulations is true of some societies in Asian, just demographically speaking on the paths.

But

it's nothing to do with race.

I grew up with a lot of Japanese families, and I can tell you that

they were the

most peaceloving, honest,

law-abiding ethnic minority.

My grandfather used to get in the car every Sunday.

When I was a teenager, he'd take me to drive around and look at farms because he knew I was going to, I was helping him out, my brother and I.

And he said, I want to show you these farms.

And when we go by a farm, he would always say, look at this farm.

There's not a weed in that vineyard.

Now look at the house.

It's not very big.

And then he'd show us other farms.

Look at the house.

It's all been remodeled, but the vineyard looks terrible or the orchard.

And he said, the Japanese Americans are the best farmers, and they spend the least amount of conspicuous conspicuous consumption on themselves and he was always in great admiration yeah i think i mentioned my mother was the student body president of suamaha the first uh

women woman to be a student body president of that high school.

And she led a great,

Lowell Prout was the editor of the Selma Enterprise, and she led a very idealistic effort at 17 to get farmers to

later on when she was at the University Pacific,

she led an effort, I think it was 1944 during the war, to make sure that nobody capitalized on the Japanese internments.

Right, take their property.

Yeah, and a lot of farmers held their property in trust, kept the profits in a trust account, and it was returned.

Not all didn't.

I won't mention your name just in finishing, but there was a very famous packer and farmer called Wagon Wheel Farms, and each spoke of the wheel with a Japanese American farm.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, that was his logo wagon.

Actually,

the nefarious side of that possibility was a great movie, A Bad Day at Black Rock.

Yeah, I did.

It was Spencer Tracy who was in that.

Yeah.

Didn't he have only one arm in that?

He was wounded in the war.

He did.

Yeah, that was a great movie.

Oh, it was.

Bunch of Oscar winners and

eventual Oscar winners.

Of course, Tracy.

Oh, my gosh, the old man.

Oh, my God.

He won three Oscars for Bomarty was in it.

Lee Marvin.

Yeah,

he was the evil guy, right?

No, Lee Marvin.

Yeah, but the bad, bad guy was Robert Ryan, who always played

mostly.

I know.

He was a bad guy in the Dirty Dozen.

Yeah,

he was the schnookered general.

Yeah,

had that little scarf around his neck or something.

Yeah, yeah.

Walter Brennan was the name I was trying to think.

Actually, and the guy who won the Oscar for

12 o'clock high,

he played the adjutant there.

Oh, gosh, he won the best support.

Oh, I know who you're talking about.

Yeah.

He was

bald.

Yes, he was bald.

Dean Jaeger, Dean Jaeger, Jaeger,

that was a good movie.

He had that little candy jar you saw in a window.

It started it all off.

That was a great movie.

I love that.

Yeah, that was a good book.

And Japanese.

We talked about the TV show, too, because that first season of 12 O'Clock High.

Robert Lansing, wasn't he in that?

Oh, he was.

There's remarkably great television.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah,

that was a big growing up, you know, in TV, it's just amazing that you had a choice.

You didn't have a choice in the 19 late 50s and early 60s.

It was

rawhide, lawman, rifleman, laramie versus gallant men or combat.

They had a thing with Bill Haldley every Saturday morning narrating a submarine, you know, into the deep or something or

yeah, a navy show.

Oh, wow.

He was the narrator and it was had that kind of gravelly voice yeah i gotta look that up i never heard yeah

it's like that it's like the world at war you know that oh i love that they have everybody and hans gudarian is in that al gallant the head of the luftwaffe is in that oh gosh oh my god they got every general every person in world war ii as it's a classic

anyway well you've been terrific victor thanks uh so much for all the wisdom you shared today.

Thanks, folks, for listening.

Stay tuned tomorrow when Victor and the great Sammy Wink will be discussing the debate, the vice presidential debate.

And Victor and I will be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

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